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>> so my name is tom locascio.

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I'd like to welcome you to our december 2nd public

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comment session on the reform management contract

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with pseg long island.

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I'm going to turn it over to life as chief executive

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officer tom falcon, who's going to go through a

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presentation on some of the key elements of the

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reform contract that will be before the life of

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board on december 15th.

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and then we'll go to our public comment portion,

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tom.

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um, good evening everybody.

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and it's my pleasure to be here with you.

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I would say that it is a special treat to spend any

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evening with a group of people that want to are

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interested in and want to spend time talking about

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their local electric utility.

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you are my kind of people.

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uh, I'm joined here tonight by many members of

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lipid, senior staff and our board.

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uh, the comments as tom locascio mentioned are

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recorded, uh, they will be put online.

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uh, you will be able to look at the webinar on

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life website and a summary of the comments will also

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be provided to the lipid board at its december 15th

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meeting for their consideration.

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uh, this is one of a series of public events,

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uh, and we are also accepting written comments

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on the reform contract.

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the one thing I wanted to do is start tonight with a

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little bit of background to frame our discussion,

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and then we're here to listen to you.

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and so with that, uh, can we move to the next

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page, tom?

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so what brought us here tonight?

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it's been a rather long journey along odyssey and

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it all started as you may recall, on august 4th,

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2020, uh, that was tropical storm east

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[inaudible] and it was a big storm.

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uh, it was very damaging to the electric grid on

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long island measured by the damage to the grid.

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it was one of our top five storms to hit the long

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island electric grid.

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it caused about 645,000 customer outages.

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uh, and it took about eight days to restore.

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we're not here though because, uh, 645,000

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outages, uh, we're here because the restoration

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did not go well.

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if it had, we understand and know that we live on

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an island and occasionally we're going to be affected

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by big storms.

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it doesn't make it, uh, something that we strive

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for.

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in fact, we strive to minimize that dislocation,

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but occasionally there will be big storms and

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there will be damaged the electric grid and it will

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take time to restore, but you have a right to

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expect, uh, good information and quick and

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efficient restoration.

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and to be able to get in touch with your local

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electric utility, these are all reasonable

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expectations and you have a right to expect that.

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and the storm didn't meet that criteria.

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in fact, all of our major it systems failed.

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and these were systems that you, our customers

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had invested a lot of money in on august 4th.

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it was not clear what was going wrong, but it was

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clear that something was going wrong.

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and on august 5th lipa at the request of its board

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began an investigation to get to the bottom.

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even while the storm was ongoing.

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you get to the bottom of what happened.

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uh, the department of public service, which is

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the staff arm of the state public service commission,

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the regulatory commission also opened an

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investigation.

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those opened on august 5th and lipid at the request

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of its board issued a 30 day report with our

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initial findings in september, that initial

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report focused on the failure of the it systems,

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their proximate causes and immediate fixes that

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needed to be done to stabilize the systems, go

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to the next page.

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then the board also requested a 90 day report.

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by the time of that 90 day report, we had looked not

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just at the proximate causes, but the underlying

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root causes of what failed and concluded that they

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were management issues.

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and then deciding that they were management

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issues.

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and that lipid pays a lot of money for management

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services, the board of trustees, as well as the

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department of public service, uh, voted and

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asked the lipid staff to either terminate our

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relationship with pseg or renegotiated unacceptable

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terms.

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the board also adopted 85 recommendations that were

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made public and that pseg filed plans to implement.

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and we have in a quarterly basis, uh, shown you the

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progress against those plans, that decision to

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either terminate or, uh, renegotiate the contract

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led to an initial view.

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once again, at the lipid board's request to hear

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and present publicly what our alternatives were.

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we delivered that report in december, which was a

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complete report, but a quick one, uh, the board

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asked us pursuant to that report and its findings to

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proceed with discussions with pseg and simultaneous

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simultaneously also evaluate our other

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alternatives.

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those alternatives included privatization of

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the utility.

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we're a public utility publicly owned or

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renegotiated contract with pseg or a contract with

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somebody else as our management service

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provider or life management.

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we issued a report on april 28th in that april

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28th report.

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we detailed and made public, uh, our findings

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on those options, as well as the requirements.

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if we were to reach and renegotiated deal with

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pseg, what it would need to look like, go to the

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next page, uh, at points, it did not appear like we

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would be able to seek adequate terms.

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the board directed us to issue and fully explore

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alternative providers.

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and in may, we issued a request for information

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and began that process.

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we also sought from you members of the public,

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your feedback on those alternatives.

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in that report in june, by late june, we had reached

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a tentative settlement agreement with pseg long

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island that met the eight reform objectives that the

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board had set out in that tentative agreement.

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we presented those terms publicly to the board, and

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that was a settlement, but it was a term sheet.

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it wasn't the final contract language.

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if you go to the next page, I think the most

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important thing was that it ensured stronger

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management structure, accountability, and

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oversight, and it also shortened the contract

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term.

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we, uh, at that point proceeded at the board's

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direction to negotiate with pseg.

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if you go to the next page and it took until november

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9th to reach an actual settlement agreement, a

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proposed settlement agreement, the final

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terms, and we made that more than a hundred page

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agreement available on our website.

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in addition to making that a hundred page

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agreement available on our website, we also posted

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2022 performance metrics that would be under this

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agreement.

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and I'll talk more about those in a minute.

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you see to the right, those eight items that we

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detailed in that options analysis.

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and I'll spend a minute talking about each of

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those eight elements, the things that were requisite

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for us to continue a relationship with pseg the

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board instructed us to not come back without

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addressing at least these eight things you go to the

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next page, I'll briefly cover these and these

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materials are also available online on our

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website, but objective one, a greater share of

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pseg is management compensation had to be at

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risk.

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we pay approximately $80 million a year.

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and under our old contract, only 10 million

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of that was at risk compensation for

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performance under the new contract proposed new

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contract, 40 million or 51% of the contract fees

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would be at risk.

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number two, the board said that there have to be

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a new way of gauging performance under the old

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contract.

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the performance measures that that $10 million were

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determined by were set in 2013 and it required

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mutual agreement to update.

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I think the contract was well-intended however, as

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time marched on those measures became somewhat

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stale and reaching mutual agreement to update to

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stronger, more strict performance measures that

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also accounted for all the variety of services pseg

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provides to weipa and its customers became

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challenging under the new agreement.

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the board said, no, there has to be an independent

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process to set standards pursuant to the, uh, the,

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uh, desires of the board for the service to the

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customers.

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and that, that this contract does that.

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it also expands the number of metrics from

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approximately 25 to more than 110 covering all the

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scopes of services.

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so for example, under the prior contract, there were

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no performance measures related to the it systems

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that failed under the new contract.

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there are many go to the next page.

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it wasn't, uh, it was not just sufficient that we

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have incentives.

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we also have to have penalties for failure to

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achieve minimum levels of performance.

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and under the contract 10 to $20 million is at risk

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for exceeding budgets.

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five to 10 million is at risk for failures to, uh,

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to implement the emergency response plan that the

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lipid board and the department of public

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service approved each year, that pseg is

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supposed to execute in the event of outages.

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this is about a thousand page document, and you can

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see it on our website.

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uh, if reliability, the average minutes, uh,

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customers out of power fall below a minimum

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standard.

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there's a 10 million automatic penalty in the

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contract customer satisfaction, a 3 million

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penalty.

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and if there's two consecutive failures, we

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have the right to terminate the contract.

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I should mention failures to implement the emergency

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response plan for a 72 hour or more storm.

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also give us a right to terminate the contract

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violations of the emergency response plan or

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failure to provide safe and adequate service

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subject to an investigation, another 20

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million.

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so in total 10 million is at risk based on a

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calculation of failures to meet a minimum level on

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the emergency response plan.

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and we can terminate and additional 20 million.

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so 30 million in total, if an investigation finds

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other violations of the emergency response plan in

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the event of a major outage, a failure to

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implement minimum protocols for

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cybersecurity, also an event of failure or an

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event of default for which we can terminate the

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contract term has also been shortened.

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and, uh, the importance of this is that the old

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contract had a, uh, gave to pseg, essentially a

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right of renewal at their option for an additional

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eight years.

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so while the contract term extended to 2025, with

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that right of renewal, the contract could extend all

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the way to 2033.

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we eliminated that option, uh, of pseg to

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automatically extend the contract at their right.

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uh, if we agree to extend the contract, it will be

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based on the performance over the next four years.

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and that will be a future decision of the lipid

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board based on how the contract goes.

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number, uh, the next objective on the page, in

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the middle of the page management, it was

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ultimately a management failure.

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and you can read all about in those publicly

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available reports, but we insisted on a dedicated

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and strengthened management team with all

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the authority necessary to provide service to long

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island, to make sure that those individuals who run

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the utility every day are exclusively focused and

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dedicated and coming in every day, thinking about

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long island, it also requires the addition of

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five new senior level positions, all based on

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long island.

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uh, the contract requires a duty of candor.

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and if there's a violation of the duty of

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candor, uh, as described to you on the page that

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also provides a right to terminate the contract

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early, go to the next page.

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it requires that if lippa fines and the board adopts

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with the recommendation of the department of public

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services, well, if lipid finds that there is a

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deficiency and operations, there is a period of time

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with which to correct that deficiency under the

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contract and it's term limited objective seven,

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uh, long-term planning, budgeting development, and

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cost management.

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the contract requires the development of long-term

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plans to meet the scopes of services that are

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required.

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uh, objective eight, uh, the partitioning of the

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long island.

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it systems separate from new jersey, which provides

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greater clarity responsibility.

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this was another core ease-of-use finding, and

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you can read all about it in our report.

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if you go to the next page, those described the

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contract terms, but let's come back to what we're

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trying to achieve.

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we're not just trying to achieve a better contract.

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the real ultimate goal is to provide great service

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to our customers service that you should be proud

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of, clean, reliable, resilient service at

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affordable prices.

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the lipid board has adopted standards

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directives of what that service should look like.

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and you can read all about them on our website, but

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they include great customer satisfaction,

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high reliability benchmark to the top 10% of

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utilities industry leading emergency response, clean

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energy, 70% renewable energy by 2030 and

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entirely carbon-free grid by 2040 and rates that are

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comparable to our region.

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so you can read all about the board's standards in

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this contract, provides the mechanism to make sure

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that pseg management comes in every day, focused on

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achieving those objectives.

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if you go to the next page, I mentioned there's

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$20 million at risk for meeting these performance

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standards.

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and there's another 20 million at risk for

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failures to provide safe and adequate service.

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basically subject to an investigation.

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did talk a little bit about these performance

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standards, because they're a key part of the contract

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on the next page.

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what you can see is that they cover all the types

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of services that pseg management or pseg is

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managing to, to, uh, provide services to lipids

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and its customers.

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so reliability, resilience, risk

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management, customer satisfaction, external

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affairs, it operations major projects, and they

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cover all the scopes information technology,

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customer service t and d business services, power

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supply, and clean energy.

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you can read all the details on our website.

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if you click on that link or go to ally [inaudible]

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dot com forward slash reform contract, there's a

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more than a hundred page document.

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and on that a hundred pages you can see for each

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measure how it's defined and whether how pseg would

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get paid under that measure.

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if you go to the next page, I'll just highlight

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a few examples.

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so you understand the types of things I'm

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talking about.

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for example, there are three performance metrics

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metrics of the 96 performance measures.

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there are three around asset management.

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why should you care about asset management?

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well, the utility business is a very asset intensive

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business, all those poles and wires and substations,

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and they will have to be maintained reliably.

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and, uh, not just reliably, we have to

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collect the right data.

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we have to maintain them.

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uh, and, uh, on the right schedule, we have to use

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the data that's available to us.

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doing all these things increases reliability and

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reduces costs.

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implementing a world-class asset management program

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is what this goes, uh, is about and the standards

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and progress towards that.

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you can read all about, uh, customer information

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system.

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why should you care?

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well, that's the backbone customer system that when

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you call and interact with our call center, or you

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get a bill, that's the backbone system by which

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we deliver all services.

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and if you don't have a modern customer

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information system, it's going to be very hard to

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keep up with providing the types of services that

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people come to expect in an age when you can do one

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or two clicks or use an app and find out more

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about your service, your billing, and meet your

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needs, your own way, reliability.

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there are many standards in the 2022 metrics that

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you can read about just to highlight it.

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uh, pseg has to fall within the top 10% of

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utilities for, uh, reliability on blue sky

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days.

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they have to reduce the number of customers that

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have four or more outages a year by 22%.

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next year, they have to reduce the numbers that

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have flicker outages by, uh, more than 13% and

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reduce customers with six or more flickr outages by

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20%.

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these are all good reliability measures,

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resiliency.

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we have very aggressive storm resiliency programs.

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we all know storms are getting worse.

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we have not just things that we'll be executing

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next year, but also pilots that will lead to new

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plans and programs in future years.

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and you can read all about those types of initiatives

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that we'll be delivering on in the coming year.

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and in future years, customer satisfaction,

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pseg has to implement seven particular projects

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to improve customer satisfaction.

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next year, they have to respond to your calls and

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emails in a timely manner.

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they have to respond to social media and tweets,

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especially ones related to health and safety in a

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timely manner.

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they have to expand our low-income discount

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programs for our customers that are less well off by

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34% compared to the historic level of

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participants.

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in those programs, you go to the next page.

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more of these measures include an integrated

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resource plan, which is something that we've run a

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public process around.

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this is planning for how we're going to meet a zero

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carbon electric grid over the next 20 years, uh, to

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deploying more energy storage on the grid in a

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word, those contracts complete the analysis to

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award those contracts by the end of next year, meet

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very aggressive energy efficiency and

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electrification goals for transportation and for

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home heating.

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these will reduce carbon in other sectors of the

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economy, not just the electric grid, but in the

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biggest sources of carbon emissions for long island.

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and you can read all about those plans on our

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website, doing things to make long island more evie

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ready, uh, simplifying the interconnection process

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for customers who want to put solar on their roof,

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uh, expanding time of use rates.

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what does that, that's an option for you to pick

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different rates that perhaps better meet your

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needs or save you money, a work management.

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we all want efficiency tracking work better.

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uh, making sure we have the right staffing levels,

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uh, reducing over time, completing capital

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projects on time.

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these are all just examples of measures,

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including the it measures where one is about, uh,

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measuring and benchmarking, uh, to a

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life, a hired a benchmark expert consultant to come

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in and look at how well we implement our major it

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systems and make sure we're following best

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practices in those areas.

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go to the next page.

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so the importance of all this is that this is not

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a, a second chance for pseg that's based in hope.

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this is a second chance based on binding

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contractual commitments with incentives, with a

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stronger local management structure that we believe

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fundamentally address the core issues out of

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tropical storm east.

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yes, we're putting this in front of, uh, our, uh,

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citizens you're on long island, our customers, our

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stakeholders, and ultimately our board.

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and what we're here to do is listen to you.

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and what you think about this, uh, our timeline for

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public review includes, uh, a, uh, having released

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the contract on our website, which you can

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download it if you have not already, uh, starting

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on november 9th, our november 17th meeting,

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where we hold heard from some members of the

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public.

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and we also discussed in detail, the contract and

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the performance standards, these public comment

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hearings, as well as the ability to submit written

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comments to help tonight, I will be accepting

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written comments through december 9th, and then we

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will be presenting the, uh, the, uh, views of our

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stakeholders to the board on december 15th.

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and they may consider the pseg contract on that date

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as well, along with metrics and budgets

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further that you can find right on our website.

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so if you go to the next page, there is a lot of

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information on the website.

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we've put out a couple of fact sheets that

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summarize this information.

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there's links here on this page, where you can find

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it on the website, but you can find everything.

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you can find all those investigative reports.

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you can find our quarterly reports.

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we issued over six written reports, each one,

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generally in the 50 to a hundred page range over

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the last 15 months, you can find previous public

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comments that we have received.

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you can find videos from the last, uh, year, uh,

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you can find summaries.

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so there's a lot of information there.

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and if anyone has suggestions or more

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information, we're happy to have it.

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and with that, if you go to the next page, we're

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going to turn it back over to you for what we intend

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to do tonight, which is hear from you.

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but I, as I started out with, uh, we're here to

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listen and we're excited that you're excited and

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have participated many, uh, of the people on this

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call participated with passion over the last 15

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months and care about your community and care about

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your electric service.

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and so we celebrate that.

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we thank you for your active involvement and

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participation, and thank you very much.

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great.

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thank you, tom.

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so this will begin the public comment portion of

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our meeting tonight.

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uh, at this point I would ask anybody that's in the

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attendee log to please raise your hand if you

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would like to speak.

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um, what I will do is I'll call off three names.

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um, and then we'll keep adding to that list.

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we do have several members of the community here

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tonight that would like to speak on this, and we want

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to make sure we give you ample opportunity, um,

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prior to calling on you.

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um, so our first three speakers, uh, based on an

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order that hands were raised, uh, legislative,

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bridget fleming, casey scheid, and fred harrison.

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so at this time I'm going to bring legislator

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fleming, um, into the panelists from hi

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legislator.

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good to see you again.

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good evening, mr. Locascio good to see

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you as well.

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I appreciate the opportunity to be heard on

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this important topic and that you'll be hearing

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from members of the public as well.

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suffolk county.

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I am suffolk county legislator, bridget

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fleming.

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I serve as the vice chair of the public

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transportation.

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the public works transportation and energy

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committee.

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I am the chair of the, uh, community choice,

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aggregation task force and the renewable energy task

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force at the legislature and the chair of the ways

526
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and means committee suffolk county is a major

527
00:25:12,100 --> 00:25:13,579
customer of the utility.

528
00:25:13,579 --> 00:25:17,916
our electric bill has run as high as $20 million in

529
00:25:17,916 --> 00:25:21,453
recent years on june 8th, noting with alarm that

530
00:25:21,453 --> 00:25:24,590
prolonged power outages and a breakdown of the

531
00:25:24,590 --> 00:25:28,127
system use to communicate with the public after a

532
00:25:28,127 --> 00:25:30,496
tropical depression, ies caused widespread hardship

533
00:25:30,496 --> 00:25:34,320
and tried the patients of long island electric, uh,

534
00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:36,368
customers, the suffolk county legislature, uh,

535
00:25:36,368 --> 00:25:39,538
wrote, uh, to life, a board of trustees

536
00:25:39,538 --> 00:25:41,874
unanimously urging that full consideration.

537
00:25:41,874 --> 00:25:45,411
be given to the analysis of alternative options to

538
00:25:45,411 --> 00:25:48,180
the current third party management system, rather

539
00:25:48,180 --> 00:25:50,916
than seizing the opportunity to make real

540
00:25:50,916 --> 00:25:53,285
change to the failed third-party management

541
00:25:53,285 --> 00:25:56,422
system that has given us high costs, reliability,

542
00:25:56,422 --> 00:25:59,191
and customer care failures and outdated technologies

543
00:25:59,191 --> 00:26:01,527
as the world faces increasingly alarming

544
00:26:01,527 --> 00:26:02,327
climate impacts.

545
00:26:02,327 --> 00:26:05,864
we now see that we are returning to a

546
00:26:05,864 --> 00:26:07,833
relationship with a failed partner.

547
00:26:07,833 --> 00:26:11,370
from my perspective, this is a mistake on november

548
00:26:11,370 --> 00:26:11,770
10th.

549
00:26:11,770 --> 00:26:14,506
in fact, senators gordon, senator gordon, and

550
00:26:14,506 --> 00:26:18,430
assemblyman feel urge the board to delay voting on

551
00:26:18,430 --> 00:26:21,213
the contract and to suspend the process until

552
00:26:21,213 --> 00:26:24,349
the current investigation by the attorney general is

553
00:26:24,349 --> 00:26:26,685
complete in her investigation as to

554
00:26:26,685 --> 00:26:29,455
whether the failed response to eis actually

555
00:26:29,455 --> 00:26:32,191
violated state law 535,000 customers were left

556
00:26:32,191 --> 00:26:34,560
without power and without any effective

557
00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:37,696
communication about when the lights would go back

558
00:26:37,696 --> 00:26:42,340
on some for as long as 10 days, the public needs

559
00:26:42,340 --> 00:26:45,170
additional time to review this contract work is

560
00:26:45,170 --> 00:26:48,307
underway, uh, by legislators to take a hard

561
00:26:48,307 --> 00:26:51,844
look at the alternative option of a fully public

562
00:26:51,844 --> 00:26:55,414
utility with some of the highest rates in the

563
00:26:55,414 --> 00:26:56,181
nation.

564
00:26:56,181 --> 00:26:59,718
and with another rate hike proposed in the 2022

565
00:26:59,718 --> 00:27:03,255
budget and more than 90% reliance on fossil fuel

566
00:27:03,255 --> 00:27:03,655
resources.

567
00:27:03,655 --> 00:27:06,792
it's high time that we pause before obligating

568
00:27:06,792 --> 00:27:10,329
rate payers to another four years with a partner

569
00:27:10,329 --> 00:27:14,666
who has failed in so many ways has not been fully

570
00:27:14,666 --> 00:27:17,402
forthcoming throughout this process and is still

571
00:27:17,402 --> 00:27:19,771
missing milestones with revamping the outage

572
00:27:19,771 --> 00:27:20,572
management system.

573
00:27:20,572 --> 00:27:24,476
um, I know, um, tom, that you mentioned that, um,

574
00:27:24,476 --> 00:27:27,646
that this all began on august the fourth.

575
00:27:27,646 --> 00:27:31,183
uh, I want to disagree with you on that.

576
00:27:31,183 --> 00:27:34,720
I think the failures, uh, at following the storm

577
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:39,240
ease ias in fact, gave us the opportunity to take a

578
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:42,160
hard look at a failed third party management

579
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:42,561
system.

580
00:27:42,561 --> 00:27:45,330
unfortunately, the options analysis, which was a

581
00:27:45,330 --> 00:27:48,467
great effort that was underway in august was

582
00:27:48,467 --> 00:27:49,268
suddenly hijacked.

583
00:27:49,268 --> 00:27:52,804
and without notice to many of the stakeholders who

584
00:27:52,804 --> 00:27:56,341
had been involved, we were informed in the newspaper

585
00:27:56,341 --> 00:27:59,770
that a contract was being pursued.

586
00:27:59,770 --> 00:28:02,214
once again, with a failed partner tweaking this

587
00:28:02,214 --> 00:28:04,583
failed third-party management system will not

588
00:28:04,583 --> 00:28:05,751
serve rate payers.

589
00:28:05,751 --> 00:28:08,120
I appreciate that increasing penalties for

590
00:28:08,120 --> 00:28:10,889
failure to perform a shorter term and

591
00:28:10,889 --> 00:28:13,625
flexibility to terminate the contract for failure

592
00:28:13,625 --> 00:28:18,330
to comply with a long list of new items is moving in

593
00:28:18,330 --> 00:28:19,531
the right direction.

594
00:28:19,531 --> 00:28:23,468
but I urge you as have others to recognize that

595
00:28:23,468 --> 00:28:25,804
considerations are underway both in albany,

596
00:28:25,804 --> 00:28:28,941
under the attorney general and the state legislature

597
00:28:28,941 --> 00:28:33,278
to look, take a hard look at what you, once we're

598
00:28:33,278 --> 00:28:34,790
looking at.

599
00:28:34,790 --> 00:28:37,215
and that is a real rigorous, uh, options

600
00:28:37,215 --> 00:28:40,352
analysis and consideration of a fully public utility.

601
00:28:40,352 --> 00:28:43,121
the urgency for fresh thinking that was

602
00:28:43,121 --> 00:28:47,250
presented to us on, uh, on august the fourth, that

603
00:28:47,250 --> 00:28:49,795
the hardships that our rate payers payers

604
00:28:49,795 --> 00:28:52,931
suffered in august needs to be capitalized on

605
00:28:52,931 --> 00:28:56,468
before we move forward with a contract with a

606
00:28:56,468 --> 00:29:00,405
failed partner, I urge you to return to the public

607
00:29:00,405 --> 00:29:02,774
options analysis delay entering into this

608
00:29:02,774 --> 00:29:05,911
contract with someone, with a partner who has

609
00:29:05,911 --> 00:29:09,448
failed to be forthcoming and has failed to meet

610
00:29:09,448 --> 00:29:12,184
metrics time and time again, that basic

611
00:29:12,184 --> 00:29:14,553
third-party management system is not serving

612
00:29:14,553 --> 00:29:14,953
library.

613
00:29:14,953 --> 00:29:15,721
quit payers.

614
00:29:15,721 --> 00:29:18,900
please take the opportunity presented by

615
00:29:18,900 --> 00:29:22,270
the hardships suffered by our rate payers to take a

616
00:29:22,270 --> 00:29:26,365
fresh look and not go back to the same old ways.

617
00:29:26,365 --> 00:29:29,901
thank you very much for the opportunity to be

618
00:29:29,901 --> 00:29:30,269
heard.

619
00:29:30,269 --> 00:29:31,837
it's a tough issue.

620
00:29:31,837 --> 00:29:34,206
I wish you all the best.

621
00:29:34,206 --> 00:29:39,311
I know we're all in it to serve the rate payers in a

622
00:29:39,311 --> 00:29:42,481
reliable and cost effective way, and I offer

623
00:29:42,481 --> 00:29:44,816
my support for that those efforts.

624
00:29:44,816 --> 00:29:48,754
thank you very much and have a great evening.

625
00:29:48,754 --> 00:29:50,322
thank you, legislator fleming.

626
00:29:50,322 --> 00:29:54,259
and, uh, one other thing that I didn't mention, but

627
00:29:54,259 --> 00:29:58,597
I do think it's important is that among all of our

628
00:29:58,597 --> 00:30:01,333
termination rights is the right determinate for

629
00:30:01,333 --> 00:30:04,870
municipalization who would have to pay a penalty to

630
00:30:04,870 --> 00:30:09,207
do so about a $60 million, which was, uh, built into

631
00:30:09,207 --> 00:30:12,744
the options analysis, but that is not different than

632
00:30:12,744 --> 00:30:14,312
what we have currently.

633
00:30:14,312 --> 00:30:19,170
so I do want to just note one thing, which is, uh,

634
00:30:19,170 --> 00:30:22,954
if the governor and the legislature as a life, as

635
00:30:22,954 --> 00:30:26,892
a public entity, to decide that we should go a

636
00:30:26,892 --> 00:30:30,429
different way, uh, we have done nothing in the

637
00:30:30,429 --> 00:30:32,798
contract that precludes that decision.

638
00:30:32,798 --> 00:30:34,366
I do appreciate that.

639
00:30:34,366 --> 00:30:38,270
and I know there's no, you, you don't want to

640
00:30:38,270 --> 00:30:42,207
back and forth, but $60 million is three times the

641
00:30:42,207 --> 00:30:45,744
annual cost of electric to suffolk county, uh, uh,

642
00:30:45,744 --> 00:30:48,113
taxpayers for the suffolk county services.

643
00:30:48,113 --> 00:30:49,681
but I appreciate that.

644
00:30:49,681 --> 00:30:53,218
and I hope that you continue to think hard

645
00:30:53,218 --> 00:30:55,587
about the things that I've presented.

646
00:30:55,587 --> 00:30:56,755
thank you.

647
00:30:56,755 --> 00:30:57,956
thank you.

648
00:30:57,956 --> 00:30:59,124
thank you, legislator.

649
00:30:59,124 --> 00:30:59,891
next step.

650
00:30:59,891 --> 00:31:03,610
we'll have casey casey shy, followed by fred

651
00:31:03,610 --> 00:31:05,797
harrison and then followed by antonio cruz.

652
00:31:05,797 --> 00:31:09,735
so casey, we're going to move you in to the

653
00:31:09,735 --> 00:31:11,303
panelist mode now.

654
00:31:11,303 --> 00:31:13,271
hey guys, how are you?

655
00:31:13,271 --> 00:31:14,720
um, okay.

656
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:16,408
uh, my name is casey shine.

657
00:31:16,408 --> 00:31:18,777
I'm the political and communications director

658
00:31:18,777 --> 00:31:21,146
for the international brotherhood of electrical

659
00:31:21,146 --> 00:31:23,115
workers, local union, 10 49.

660
00:31:23,115 --> 00:31:25,500
we represent 4,500 proud members.

661
00:31:25,500 --> 00:31:28,220
that's almost 2000 members working each day to

662
00:31:28,220 --> 00:31:30,188
operate, maintain the electrical transmission

663
00:31:30,188 --> 00:31:31,356
and distribution system.

664
00:31:31,356 --> 00:31:35,694
um, I wanted to come speak tonight on behalf of the

665
00:31:35,694 --> 00:31:38,430
union and support other advise contract between,

666
00:31:38,430 --> 00:31:41,566
uh, long island power authority and pseg long

667
00:31:41,566 --> 00:31:41,967
island.

668
00:31:41,967 --> 00:31:44,736
uh, lifetime pseg have been, they've maintained

669
00:31:44,736 --> 00:31:48,273
such a strong partnership with ivw 10 49, and

670
00:31:48,273 --> 00:31:50,609
they've always provided open lines of

671
00:31:50,609 --> 00:31:53,378
communications on issues are important to our

672
00:31:53,378 --> 00:31:54,946
members besides consistency, being

673
00:31:54,946 --> 00:31:56,515
beneficial for our workforce.

674
00:31:56,515 --> 00:32:00,510
uh, pseg took over in 2014 and the company's

675
00:32:00,510 --> 00:32:03,188
commitment to safety has resulted in a 62%

676
00:32:03,188 --> 00:32:04,756
improvement in osha cases.

677
00:32:04,756 --> 00:32:08,293
this means our members are going home to their

678
00:32:08,293 --> 00:32:09,895
families safely every day.

679
00:32:09,895 --> 00:32:13,310
uh, in addition, pseg long island's commitment to

680
00:32:13,310 --> 00:32:15,767
reliability has not only benefited customers, but

681
00:32:15,767 --> 00:32:19,304
it's created jobs for our members since they took

682
00:32:19,304 --> 00:32:21,273
over 900 miles of distribution.

683
00:32:21,273 --> 00:32:24,420
mainline circuits have been storm pardoned, uh,

684
00:32:24,420 --> 00:32:27,179
in 2021, the section circuits that have been

685
00:32:27,179 --> 00:32:30,715
storm hearted has seen a 53% reduction in damage

686
00:32:30,715 --> 00:32:33,852
leading to outages compared to the rest of

687
00:32:33,852 --> 00:32:35,530
the distribution system.

688
00:32:35,530 --> 00:32:37,389
this increases reliability and enhances customer

689
00:32:37,389 --> 00:32:37,789
satisfaction.

690
00:32:37,789 --> 00:32:42,127
uh, we're proud of the work that we do to support

691
00:32:42,127 --> 00:32:45,263
long island and we enjoy our partnership with

692
00:32:45,263 --> 00:32:49,201
light, but npcg so thank you for the opportunity to

693
00:32:49,201 --> 00:32:49,568
speak.

694
00:32:49,568 --> 00:32:51,169
uh, let's see.

695
00:32:51,169 --> 00:32:53,905
it looks like a beautiful cat.

696
00:32:53,905 --> 00:32:54,706
thank you.

697
00:32:54,706 --> 00:32:57,420
you didn't do this all day.

698
00:32:57,420 --> 00:32:59,411
so just now just to start.

699
00:32:59,411 --> 00:33:01,379
all right, thanks guys.

700
00:33:01,379 --> 00:33:01,780
okay.

701
00:33:01,780 --> 00:33:04,916
next up will be fred harrison again, followed

702
00:33:04,916 --> 00:33:06,840
by antonio cruz.

703
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:09,621
and then charles means, uh, and one of the

704
00:33:09,621 --> 00:33:11,590
reminder we are timing everyone.

705
00:33:11,590 --> 00:33:14,726
there is a five minute limit per speaker.

706
00:33:14,726 --> 00:33:17,896
um, so far we've been held to that.

707
00:33:17,896 --> 00:33:22,200
so we are keeping track and we will let you know

708
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,169
if you hit that point.

709
00:33:24,169 --> 00:33:28,506
fred, you're moving in now I've read the floor is all

710
00:33:28,506 --> 00:33:29,274
yours.

711
00:33:29,274 --> 00:33:30,750
okie dokie.

712
00:33:30,750 --> 00:33:30,842
thank you.

713
00:33:30,842 --> 00:33:33,211
uh, I'd like to start by.

714
00:33:33,211 --> 00:33:35,180
my name is fred harrison.

715
00:33:35,180 --> 00:33:37,148
I'm a homeowner in merrick.

716
00:33:37,148 --> 00:33:41,860
I'd like to start by thanking, uh, the life of

717
00:33:41,860 --> 00:33:45,230
staff and mr. Falcon for their work and for that

718
00:33:45,230 --> 00:33:46,191
thorough presentation tonight.

719
00:33:46,191 --> 00:33:50,128
um, I'd like to say about the new contract, the

720
00:33:50,128 --> 00:33:52,464
following, the proposed new contract documents,

721
00:33:52,464 --> 00:33:56,801
how peace ag has been a money pit for rate payers.

722
00:33:56,801 --> 00:34:00,338
uh, I thought that the cost of having pcyc

723
00:34:00,338 --> 00:34:03,108
managed system was $80 million per year.

724
00:34:03,108 --> 00:34:05,443
that's wrong management fees and profits.

725
00:34:05,443 --> 00:34:09,381
only part of the story, looking at all the new

726
00:34:09,381 --> 00:34:12,150
metrics and deliverables required by the proposed

727
00:34:12,150 --> 00:34:12,517
agreement.

728
00:34:12,517 --> 00:34:15,287
those 96 performance standards makes it pretty

729
00:34:15,287 --> 00:34:15,687
clear.

730
00:34:15,687 --> 00:34:18,823
that piece said long island has been getting

731
00:34:18,823 --> 00:34:19,991
paid for work.

732
00:34:19,991 --> 00:34:23,128
it has not done adequately, and it's not

733
00:34:23,128 --> 00:34:24,329
just it work.

734
00:34:24,329 --> 00:34:28,266
this is the eighth year of pcyc managing the system.

735
00:34:28,266 --> 00:34:30,602
they profited handsomely receiving hundreds of

736
00:34:30,602 --> 00:34:34,139
millions of bottles, of rate payer money in fees

737
00:34:34,139 --> 00:34:34,940
and profits.

738
00:34:34,940 --> 00:34:38,476
what have we gotten for our money accompany, which

739
00:34:38,476 --> 00:34:40,845
he needs intensive supervision in virtually

740
00:34:40,845 --> 00:34:43,181
every area of operation, transmission and

741
00:34:43,181 --> 00:34:45,550
distribution on t power supply programs.

742
00:34:45,550 --> 00:34:49,870
you name them mr. Falco, 13 major operation areas

743
00:34:49,870 --> 00:34:52,223
and all, and this is no ordinary contractual

744
00:34:52,223 --> 00:34:52,624
supervision.

745
00:34:52,624 --> 00:34:56,161
leica will be closely watching p sec and dps

746
00:34:56,161 --> 00:34:58,129
will be watching as well.

747
00:34:58,129 --> 00:35:02,670
lots of rate payer money and staff time will be

748
00:35:02,670 --> 00:35:04,402
devoted to all of this.

749
00:35:04,402 --> 00:35:07,572
I was a high school teacher for decades.

750
00:35:07,572 --> 00:35:11,109
the contract reads like a pins petition on steroids.

751
00:35:11,109 --> 00:35:14,245
what exactly does of corporate bring to the

752
00:35:14,245 --> 00:35:14,646
table?

753
00:35:14,646 --> 00:35:17,782
how does piece of tech management contribute to

754
00:35:17,782 --> 00:35:18,583
pair interests?

755
00:35:18,583 --> 00:35:22,120
the evidence leads to the conclusion that piece sex

756
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:24,550
orientation is to advance peace.

757
00:35:24,550 --> 00:35:25,256
and that's understandable.

758
00:35:25,256 --> 00:35:27,993
we've seen that in their past performance.

759
00:35:27,993 --> 00:35:32,330
we see it in their new ad campaign on subs september

760
00:35:32,330 --> 00:35:36,634
22nd, mr. Eichorn declared in a report to the lack of

761
00:35:36,634 --> 00:35:40,205
board that peace was quote back to controlling the

762
00:35:40,205 --> 00:35:42,140
messaging unquote that's for sure.

763
00:35:42,140 --> 00:35:46,478
and it's new ads piece seg takes credit for the hard

764
00:35:46,478 --> 00:35:48,847
work and goodwill of its workers.

765
00:35:48,847 --> 00:35:51,983
it takes credit for the programs and improvements

766
00:35:51,983 --> 00:35:54,719
paid for by life and its repairs.

767
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:56,321
not by pisa.

768
00:35:56,321 --> 00:36:00,225
they don't do the job they're paid to do, but

769
00:36:00,225 --> 00:36:03,395
they do take credit for what others do.

770
00:36:03,395 --> 00:36:04,963
not a bad racket.

771
00:36:04,963 --> 00:36:08,900
mr. Icahn's language gives it all away at that same

772
00:36:08,900 --> 00:36:12,370
september 22nd meeting, he reported that quote, the

773
00:36:12,370 --> 00:36:14,500
next storm will benefit us.

774
00:36:14,500 --> 00:36:15,974
we welcome the next storm.

775
00:36:15,974 --> 00:36:17,942
mr. Falco remembers that incident.

776
00:36:17,942 --> 00:36:20,679
can you imagine welcoming a major storm?

777
00:36:20,679 --> 00:36:24,616
think the death toll from ida, mr. Eichorn was not

778
00:36:24,616 --> 00:36:26,951
thinking about me or my neighbors.

779
00:36:26,951 --> 00:36:30,522
he's focused on what's good for peace second at

780
00:36:30,522 --> 00:36:30,889
shareholders.

781
00:36:30,889 --> 00:36:34,826
so the contract is clear evidence that you do not

782
00:36:34,826 --> 00:36:36,394
and cannot trust pisa.

783
00:36:36,394 --> 00:36:39,531
you've said that if the inadequate all contract

784
00:36:39,531 --> 00:36:42,300
remains in force, the misfeasance suit continues

785
00:36:42,300 --> 00:36:46,237
and we have a peace sag, which must be heavily

786
00:36:46,237 --> 00:36:47,405
policed by lifeline.

787
00:36:47,405 --> 00:36:51,743
if we have a new, stronger agreement, that it is a

788
00:36:51,743 --> 00:36:54,479
much better and stronger agreement, no doubt.

789
00:36:54,479 --> 00:36:58,160
we have a piece that must be thoroughly policed,

790
00:36:58,160 --> 00:36:58,817
either way.

791
00:36:58,817 --> 00:37:02,754
we have the albatross of peace and it's 80 million

792
00:37:02,754 --> 00:37:04,322
in fees and profits.

793
00:37:04,322 --> 00:37:09,270
we are counting on you to find a way out of this.

794
00:37:09,270 --> 00:37:12,964
we need you to outline a clear roadmap leading to

795
00:37:12,964 --> 00:37:15,700
the well-documented rate savings there for the

796
00:37:15,700 --> 00:37:16,101
taking.

797
00:37:16,101 --> 00:37:19,637
we don't need [inaudible] or any other profit molded

798
00:37:19,637 --> 00:37:22,407
service provider to manage things for us.

799
00:37:22,407 --> 00:37:25,944
we trust the capabilities of a life of staff.

800
00:37:25,944 --> 00:37:29,800
they are very good at what they do.

801
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:31,490
they are fine public servants.

802
00:37:31,490 --> 00:37:34,986
we hope that you trust them to trust them enough

803
00:37:34,986 --> 00:37:37,722
to run the system without peace sec.

804
00:37:37,722 --> 00:37:38,890
thank you.

805
00:37:38,890 --> 00:37:42,600
thank you, mr. Harrison, for your very consistent

806
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:45,597
interest in lipid fairs over the last year, you've

807
00:37:45,597 --> 00:37:48,733
come to many, many board meetings and public

808
00:37:48,733 --> 00:37:49,534
comment hearing.

809
00:37:49,534 --> 00:37:52,270
so we do appreciate your interest.

810
00:37:52,270 --> 00:37:53,438
thank you.

811
00:37:53,438 --> 00:37:53,838
okay.

812
00:37:53,838 --> 00:37:57,375
next up, we will have antonio cruz followed by

813
00:37:57,375 --> 00:38:00,145
charles leaves and then eric weltman antonio,

814
00:38:00,145 --> 00:38:04,449
we're going to move you in to the panelists for you

815
00:38:04,449 --> 00:38:05,250
now.

816
00:38:05,250 --> 00:38:05,650
awesome.

817
00:38:05,650 --> 00:38:07,218
can y'all hear me?

818
00:38:07,218 --> 00:38:07,585
okay.

819
00:38:07,585 --> 00:38:07,986
great.

820
00:38:07,986 --> 00:38:09,554
thank you so much.

821
00:38:09,554 --> 00:38:13,910
and to begin, um, mr. Falcon, I saw that,

822
00:38:13,910 --> 00:38:16,628
um, in 2019, your base pay was over $280,000.

823
00:38:16,628 --> 00:38:19,797
and, you know, for the sake of creating

824
00:38:19,797 --> 00:38:22,133
cost-effective measures for ensuring people have

825
00:38:22,133 --> 00:38:24,502
access to public utilities, um, ensuring

826
00:38:24,502 --> 00:38:28,390
that electricity access is basically a right at this

827
00:38:28,390 --> 00:38:28,439
point.

828
00:38:28,439 --> 00:38:31,976
um, I think we need to address some concerns

829
00:38:31,976 --> 00:38:34,345
about, um, the privatization of our

830
00:38:34,345 --> 00:38:37,882
electric grid and our energy system here in long

831
00:38:37,882 --> 00:38:38,249
island.

832
00:38:38,249 --> 00:38:41,419
um, I see that the contract being proposed,

833
00:38:41,419 --> 00:38:44,155
but essentially render long islanders putting the

834
00:38:44,155 --> 00:38:47,692
cost of and efficiency, whether that is in the

835
00:38:47,692 --> 00:38:52,797
form of a 2.3, um, price hike in 2021 in 2022 is in

836
00:38:52,797 --> 00:38:55,567
your contract, which I believe even pseg

837
00:38:55,567 --> 00:38:59,103
projected was supposed to be lower in costs, but

838
00:38:59,103 --> 00:39:03,410
anyway, or in the tens of millions of dollars, uh,

839
00:39:03,410 --> 00:39:06,177
should pseg fail to meet the demands for

840
00:39:06,177 --> 00:39:08,146
eco-friendly efficient and consistent power

841
00:39:08,146 --> 00:39:10,114
distribution on long island.

842
00:39:10,114 --> 00:39:13,651
now I bring this up because regardless of good

843
00:39:13,651 --> 00:39:15,987
faith arguments or speculation, which is

844
00:39:15,987 --> 00:39:19,157
essential, but long islanders are going to be

845
00:39:19,157 --> 00:39:23,940
doing at this point, because at the end of the

846
00:39:23,940 --> 00:39:26,631
day, until we have a dangerous storms and stuff

847
00:39:26,631 --> 00:39:30,168
like that, that are caused by climate change, which

848
00:39:30,168 --> 00:39:33,705
again, pseg is not even projecting, um, to meet

849
00:39:33,705 --> 00:39:36,841
these deadlines by like 2040, which is still

850
00:39:36,841 --> 00:39:40,441
beyond recommendations to meet this by 20 25, 20 30.

851
00:39:40,778 --> 00:39:44,682
so again, we are seeing issues with this, but, um,

852
00:39:44,682 --> 00:39:47,852
I don't think long islanders should be paying

853
00:39:47,852 --> 00:39:51,789
30 milli should have paid 30 million for a poor

854
00:39:51,789 --> 00:39:54,125
system maintenance and stuff like that.

855
00:39:54,125 --> 00:39:58,620
and I believe that if we need this supplies, we

856
00:39:58,620 --> 00:40:00,832
could see cost cutting measures like municipal

857
00:40:00,832 --> 00:40:03,568
bond access department income, and having this

858
00:40:03,568 --> 00:40:05,536
all be, um, essentially streamlined.

859
00:40:05,536 --> 00:40:08,673
in my case through suffolk county departments, like

860
00:40:08,673 --> 00:40:10,642
the public works department and

861
00:40:10,642 --> 00:40:13,778
infrastructure funding, as well as the long island

862
00:40:13,778 --> 00:40:16,948
power authority, all of these institutions can do

863
00:40:16,948 --> 00:40:20,840
a lot more to ensure unionized jobs, lower

864
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:23,221
costs, um, safer electric systems, et cetera.

865
00:40:23,221 --> 00:40:26,758
so to bring this back, and again, I'm really

866
00:40:26,758 --> 00:40:28,726
trying to be brief here.

867
00:40:28,726 --> 00:40:31,950
this contract really doesn't address the

868
00:40:31,950 --> 00:40:33,831
concerns that a lot of us have.

869
00:40:33,831 --> 00:40:36,601
this contract creates more administrative level jobs

870
00:40:36,601 --> 00:40:39,737
that would be salaried and protected this, um,

871
00:40:39,737 --> 00:40:42,473
doesn't ensure that, um, we'd actually be

872
00:40:42,473 --> 00:40:46,100
addressing as well as the inflation crisis here in

873
00:40:46,100 --> 00:40:49,547
long island because higher utility costs are part of

874
00:40:49,547 --> 00:40:50,348
that problem.

875
00:40:50,348 --> 00:40:53,885
and that's why this crisis goes beyond just keeping

876
00:40:53,885 --> 00:40:57,422
the lights on so people can afford to actually

877
00:40:57,422 --> 00:41:00,958
sustain or live on these costs than just access

878
00:41:00,958 --> 00:41:04,896
another barrier for people to be able to live here.

879
00:41:04,896 --> 00:41:09,200
and that's really what a lot of this comes down to.

880
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:11,969
so people are paying for an efficiency,

881
00:41:11,969 --> 00:41:13,137
subcontracting, and privatization.

882
00:41:13,137 --> 00:41:16,307
then we see that climate change, electricity access

883
00:41:16,307 --> 00:41:17,475
and power redistribution.

884
00:41:17,475 --> 00:41:18,643
aren't the priorities.

885
00:41:18,643 --> 00:41:21,779
so again, regardless of good faith arguments, I

886
00:41:21,779 --> 00:41:25,316
really do think that, um, like, uh, should undergo

887
00:41:25,316 --> 00:41:26,117
municipalization efforts.

888
00:41:26,117 --> 00:41:30,455
I think we need to ensure that efforts to make sure

889
00:41:30,455 --> 00:41:33,991
that this is strictly a public utility and not

890
00:41:33,991 --> 00:41:36,728
something that is contracted would make this

891
00:41:36,728 --> 00:41:40,264
far more efficient, far more safer, and far more

892
00:41:40,264 --> 00:41:41,650
cost effective.

893
00:41:41,650 --> 00:41:42,233
thank you.

894
00:41:42,233 --> 00:41:43,401
thank you, antonio.

895
00:41:43,401 --> 00:41:47,338
uh, next step is charles then eric weltman and then

896
00:41:47,338 --> 00:41:50,475
margaret mahler will be up next on charles.

897
00:41:50,475 --> 00:41:54,812
we're going to move you in to panelists view now.

898
00:41:54,812 --> 00:41:55,613
good evening.

899
00:41:55,613 --> 00:41:58,750
my name is charles nunez and the ecosocialist

900
00:41:58,750 --> 00:42:02,286
working group chair of the nassau county chapter, the

901
00:42:02,286 --> 00:42:05,423
democratic socialists of america and a partner in

902
00:42:05,423 --> 00:42:06,624
the re-imagined life.

903
00:42:06,624 --> 00:42:09,360
but coalition, I keep my statement relatively

904
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:13,297
brief, but I'm just going to come tonight to say

905
00:42:13,297 --> 00:42:16,434
transparently I'm off from the time of tropical

906
00:42:16,434 --> 00:42:16,834
storm.

907
00:42:16,834 --> 00:42:20,772
esa is he sets failures, which they lied about on

908
00:42:20,772 --> 00:42:21,539
multiple occasions.

909
00:42:21,539 --> 00:42:25,877
you all even sat there on the board, calling out to

910
00:42:25,877 --> 00:42:27,450
your sides lies.

911
00:42:27,450 --> 00:42:29,814
dan eichorn lie to everyone's faces multiple

912
00:42:29,814 --> 00:42:33,351
times about the progress we were assured that you

913
00:42:33,351 --> 00:42:35,686
said had gotten their act together.

914
00:42:35,686 --> 00:42:38,856
but when hurricane henry was threatening to coast,

915
00:42:38,856 --> 00:42:42,393
my memory, according to my memory, I remember seven

916
00:42:42,393 --> 00:42:45,129
to 14 day warnings of failure, potential

917
00:42:45,129 --> 00:42:45,530
failures.

918
00:42:45,530 --> 00:42:49,670
you know, power might be also in 14 days.

919
00:42:49,670 --> 00:42:52,203
I thought pcyc had said they were fixed

920
00:42:52,203 --> 00:42:54,972
everything, but that's, that's what we heard.

921
00:42:54,972 --> 00:42:56,541
thankfully for long islanders.

922
00:42:56,541 --> 00:43:00,478
henry did not hit long island and mind you, it

923
00:43:00,478 --> 00:43:05,183
hit rhode island and their power was back in one or a

924
00:43:05,183 --> 00:43:06,751
one to two days.

925
00:43:06,751 --> 00:43:10,288
I believe, you know, versus the seven to 14

926
00:43:10,288 --> 00:43:14,225
days that piece said was warning us about, you also

927
00:43:14,225 --> 00:43:18,529
said at the beginning of this, that to listen to us

928
00:43:18,529 --> 00:43:21,299
through the public comments, 90% of the

929
00:43:21,299 --> 00:43:23,668
comments or for full municipalization.

930
00:43:23,668 --> 00:43:26,300
tell me how us coming here.

931
00:43:26,300 --> 00:43:29,540
talking about a renewed contract with p sag was

932
00:43:29,540 --> 00:43:30,741
listening to us.

933
00:43:30,741 --> 00:43:34,679
it wasn't, I'm just going to say this in closing.

934
00:43:34,679 --> 00:43:38,583
if you all vote for this contract, you all should

935
00:43:38,583 --> 00:43:38,983
resign.

936
00:43:38,983 --> 00:43:42,520
and if you don't, the legislature needs to step

937
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:44,880
in and take over.

938
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:47,258
and if they don't, then they should resign.

939
00:43:47,258 --> 00:43:48,426
thank you.

940
00:43:48,426 --> 00:43:50,795
okay, eric, weltman followed by margaret

941
00:43:50,795 --> 00:43:53,531
mahler and then laura mckeller, eric, we're

942
00:43:53,531 --> 00:43:57,869
going to move you in now, eric, you're on mute.

943
00:43:57,869 --> 00:43:59,360
sorry about that.

944
00:43:59,360 --> 00:43:59,437
great.

945
00:43:59,437 --> 00:44:03,741
my name is eric weltman and I'm a new york senior

946
00:44:03,741 --> 00:44:05,710
organizer with food and water.

947
00:44:05,710 --> 00:44:07,678
watch a national non-profit environmental

948
00:44:07,678 --> 00:44:10,815
organization, food and water watch is a proud

949
00:44:10,815 --> 00:44:13,985
member of the re-imagined lipid campaign, along with

950
00:44:13,985 --> 00:44:15,953
the long island, progressive coalition,

951
00:44:15,953 --> 00:44:19,900
mothers out front or energy, and so many

952
00:44:19,900 --> 00:44:20,658
incredible activists and allies.

953
00:44:20,658 --> 00:44:24,996
and we're here to send a message to the lipid board

954
00:44:24,996 --> 00:44:28,132
and to governor hoeckel long island deserves long

955
00:44:28,132 --> 00:44:30,868
island needs a publicly owned, controlled and

956
00:44:30,868 --> 00:44:32,690
managed power authority.

957
00:44:32,690 --> 00:44:35,606
long island deserves long island needs to sever its

958
00:44:35,606 --> 00:44:39,510
relationship with pac and g a company with a track

959
00:44:39,510 --> 00:44:42,680
record, a long track record of failures and

960
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:43,470
lies.

961
00:44:43,470 --> 00:44:45,816
it's time to establish new standards for

962
00:44:45,816 --> 00:44:47,785
accountability, equity, resilience, and democracy

963
00:44:47,785 --> 00:44:51,322
in our energy systems, and to create an institution

964
00:44:51,322 --> 00:44:54,458
that's equipped to meet these standards and one

965
00:44:54,458 --> 00:44:57,595
that will prevent climate catastrophe by moving the

966
00:44:57,595 --> 00:45:00,765
region off fossil fuels and transition long island

967
00:45:00,765 --> 00:45:03,100
to soar and wind power.

968
00:45:03,100 --> 00:45:04,669
the time has come.

969
00:45:04,669 --> 00:45:08,205
the time has come for the long island power

970
00:45:08,205 --> 00:45:11,375
authority to end its relationship with pse and

971
00:45:11,375 --> 00:45:11,742
g.

972
00:45:11,742 --> 00:45:15,313
and to finally end decades of failed public private

973
00:45:15,313 --> 00:45:18,449
partnerships, they have put profit over people, no

974
00:45:18,449 --> 00:45:21,586
contract, no contract can alter repair or rectify

975
00:45:21,586 --> 00:45:25,122
the fundamental disconnect between pse and g and the

976
00:45:25,122 --> 00:45:25,923
region's needs.

977
00:45:25,923 --> 00:45:29,460
the fact that the proposed contract contains a duty

978
00:45:29,460 --> 00:45:31,429
of candor requirement is alarming.

979
00:45:31,429 --> 00:45:36,133
we have to ask pse and g to commit not to lie.

980
00:45:36,133 --> 00:45:39,270
what if they're lying about not lying, no

981
00:45:39,270 --> 00:45:43,207
contract can overcome the fact that this is a flawed

982
00:45:43,207 --> 00:45:45,576
model that is causing widespread widespread

983
00:45:45,576 --> 00:45:47,912
hardship at great pasta rate pairs.

984
00:45:47,912 --> 00:45:50,681
long island has been repeatedly battered by

985
00:45:50,681 --> 00:45:53,818
storms, the intensity and fruit qfc, which are

986
00:45:53,818 --> 00:45:55,386
heightened by climate change.

987
00:45:55,386 --> 00:45:58,522
climate change is an existential threat to long

988
00:45:58,522 --> 00:45:58,923
island.

989
00:45:58,923 --> 00:46:02,860
creating an urgent need to move off fossil fuels.

990
00:46:02,860 --> 00:46:05,229
we must stop transporting and burning

991
00:46:05,229 --> 00:46:05,997
frack gas.

992
00:46:05,997 --> 00:46:10,334
public power is the means by which we can ensure the

993
00:46:10,334 --> 00:46:13,471
long island fulfills our legal and moral obligation

994
00:46:13,471 --> 00:46:16,607
to transition to a hundred percent clean, renewable

995
00:46:16,607 --> 00:46:17,800
energy.

996
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:18,976
we have a new governor.

997
00:46:18,976 --> 00:46:22,913
we have new board members and even more will be

998
00:46:22,913 --> 00:46:25,283
appointed the hopeful administration and the

999
00:46:25,283 --> 00:46:28,190
lipid board have the opportunity to acknowledge

1000
00:46:28,190 --> 00:46:31,956
and move past the mistakes of andrew cuomo and put

1001
00:46:31,956 --> 00:46:35,920
the relationship with psng where it clearly belongs

1002
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:37,610
in the dustbin of history.

1003
00:46:37,610 --> 00:46:40,598
food and water roster concludes with our call to

1004
00:46:40,598 --> 00:46:41,399
governor cuomo.

1005
00:46:41,399 --> 00:46:44,935
coco now is our moment to re-imagine lippa and

1006
00:46:44,935 --> 00:46:47,672
corporate control and abuse of our energy

1007
00:46:47,672 --> 00:46:50,808
systems and realize the benefits of public power

1008
00:46:50,808 --> 00:46:53,577
and formulas of smoothness or polarization, real

1009
00:46:53,577 --> 00:46:55,546
accountability where liable service, affordable

1010
00:46:55,546 --> 00:46:58,282
power and a transition off fossil fuels.

1011
00:46:58,282 --> 00:46:59,483
thank you.

1012
00:46:59,483 --> 00:47:01,819
thank you, eric, for your comments.

1013
00:47:01,819 --> 00:47:04,989
next, we're going to move in margaret mahler

1014
00:47:04,989 --> 00:47:08,526
followed by laura mckeller and then mike brady will

1015
00:47:08,526 --> 00:47:10,461
be up after laura.

1016
00:47:10,461 --> 00:47:11,262
hi, welcome.

1017
00:47:11,262 --> 00:47:11,662
hello.

1018
00:47:11,662 --> 00:47:12,630
hello.

1019
00:47:12,630 --> 00:47:14,398
all my name is margaret maher.

1020
00:47:14,398 --> 00:47:17,568
I'm a volunteer for food and water watch.

1021
00:47:17,568 --> 00:47:21,105
I'm a long island power authority rate payer as

1022
00:47:21,105 --> 00:47:21,472
well.

1023
00:47:21,472 --> 00:47:26,577
and I just want to put my 2 cents in saying that we

1024
00:47:26,577 --> 00:47:27,778
need public power.

1025
00:47:27,778 --> 00:47:32,483
now this new contract with pse and g does not fix or

1026
00:47:32,483 --> 00:47:33,284
lower outreach.

1027
00:47:33,284 --> 00:47:36,200
we need to manipulate view, sorry, municipalize.

1028
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:40,758
now we all know how much it costs to live on this

1029
00:47:40,758 --> 00:47:41,125
island.

1030
00:47:41,125 --> 00:47:45,620
it is so expensive between the taxes, the water, the

1031
00:47:45,620 --> 00:47:47,832
gas, the electric, these municipalities should all

1032
00:47:47,832 --> 00:47:48,599
be public.

1033
00:47:48,599 --> 00:47:52,136
we pay high bills that seem to serve stockholders

1034
00:47:52,136 --> 00:47:53,337
over rate payers.

1035
00:47:53,337 --> 00:47:55,306
and this is just unacceptable.

1036
00:47:55,306 --> 00:47:59,210
we had many issues in the past, such as tropical

1037
00:47:59,210 --> 00:48:03,547
storm isis in 2020 pse and g needs to be held

1038
00:48:03,547 --> 00:48:06,283
accountable for their readiness of this storm.

1039
00:48:06,283 --> 00:48:09,453
we know they lied about their preparedness, their

1040
00:48:09,453 --> 00:48:12,590
response and the upgrades it made afterwards.

1041
00:48:12,590 --> 00:48:16,527
we want public power to serve the rate payers, not

1042
00:48:16,527 --> 00:48:17,294
the stockholders.

1043
00:48:17,294 --> 00:48:20,831
I can't even say this enough, who benefit from

1044
00:48:20,831 --> 00:48:25,169
our hard earned money, our money that we make, we are

1045
00:48:25,169 --> 00:48:27,905
giving away to stockholders the amount of

1046
00:48:27,905 --> 00:48:30,674
money that is made millions upon millions

1047
00:48:30,674 --> 00:48:32,243
every year is unbelievable.

1048
00:48:32,243 --> 00:48:34,612
speaking for myself and my neighbors.

1049
00:48:34,612 --> 00:48:38,149
we, the public want the board to terminate its

1050
00:48:38,149 --> 00:48:41,685
contract with pse and g and commit to public

1051
00:48:41,685 --> 00:48:42,520
power.

1052
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:45,222
utility utilities like power and water should be

1053
00:48:45,222 --> 00:48:45,623
public.

1054
00:48:45,623 --> 00:48:47,558
they should all be public.

1055
00:48:47,558 --> 00:48:51,950
we need to go green to fight climate change.

1056
00:48:51,950 --> 00:48:54,632
we need governor hocal to champion this cause this

1057
00:48:54,632 --> 00:48:55,833
is extremely important.

1058
00:48:55,833 --> 00:48:59,770
we are paying so much money and the benefit to

1059
00:48:59,770 --> 00:49:01,739
us is very, very little.

1060
00:49:01,739 --> 00:49:02,907
it's really upsetting.

1061
00:49:02,907 --> 00:49:06,444
and one other thing, before I close, I don't

1062
00:49:06,444 --> 00:49:11,148
know who cuts the trees or who you hire to cut the

1063
00:49:11,148 --> 00:49:13,117
trees, but it is awful.

1064
00:49:13,117 --> 00:49:16,253
I just want to put that in there.

1065
00:49:16,253 --> 00:49:20,591
I thank you for letting me speak and say my piece.

1066
00:49:20,591 --> 00:49:22,560
thank you very much.

1067
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:26,960
thank you, margaret laura mckeller, you are up next

1068
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:29,233
then followed by mike brady and then call

1069
00:49:29,233 --> 00:49:31,202
merchenson after my hi laurie.

1070
00:49:31,202 --> 00:49:33,170
you're in the panelist view.

1071
00:49:33,170 --> 00:49:34,738
you're on mute.

1072
00:49:34,738 --> 00:49:35,940
am I unmuted?

1073
00:49:35,940 --> 00:49:37,508
can you hear me?

1074
00:49:37,508 --> 00:49:37,875
yep.

1075
00:49:37,875 --> 00:49:38,676
okay, good.

1076
00:49:38,676 --> 00:49:41,450
so my name is laura mckeller.

1077
00:49:41,450 --> 00:49:44,949
uh, I am a rate payer in greenlawn, new york.

1078
00:49:44,949 --> 00:49:49,687
I am also a, um, I'm a registered nurse and I'm a

1079
00:49:49,687 --> 00:49:51,655
mother of two teenage boys.

1080
00:49:51,655 --> 00:49:55,960
um, I think one thing that I've heard over and over

1081
00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:59,897
again, and I myself have said in these meetings is

1082
00:49:59,897 --> 00:50:04,235
that we are just all really fed up with pse and

1083
00:50:04,235 --> 00:50:06,570
g we are, we're just done.

1084
00:50:06,570 --> 00:50:07,771
we we're done.

1085
00:50:07,771 --> 00:50:10,107
we are done with this relationship.

1086
00:50:10,107 --> 00:50:14,445
um, not only were they ill prepared and not only was

1087
00:50:14,445 --> 00:50:16,413
their response poor to issais.

1088
00:50:16,413 --> 00:50:17,982
um, we relied too.

1089
00:50:17,982 --> 00:50:21,518
now, if this were any other relationship in my

1090
00:50:21,518 --> 00:50:25,550
life or in my children's lives or my friends'

1091
00:50:25,550 --> 00:50:28,993
lives, I would say just ended if this were an

1092
00:50:28,993 --> 00:50:32,529
obstetrician, for example, um, I would not be setting

1093
00:50:32,529 --> 00:50:33,697
new performance standards.

1094
00:50:33,697 --> 00:50:36,867
I would not be, um, creating a shorter

1095
00:50:36,867 --> 00:50:39,203
contract with him or her.

1096
00:50:39,203 --> 00:50:43,140
I would not be setting any sort of differences in

1097
00:50:43,140 --> 00:50:44,308
risk and compensation.

1098
00:50:44,308 --> 00:50:48,245
I would say this person does not delivery my next

1099
00:50:48,245 --> 00:50:48,646
child.

1100
00:50:48,646 --> 00:50:52,583
um, and I think that's what we need to do.

1101
00:50:52,583 --> 00:50:56,520
um, not only because of what we've seen in the

1102
00:50:56,520 --> 00:51:00,424
past, but because of what we are going to be

1103
00:51:00,424 --> 00:51:03,994
encountering in the future, we are truly at a

1104
00:51:03,994 --> 00:51:07,898
crossroads right now that I think all of us see

1105
00:51:07,898 --> 00:51:11,435
ordinary people like me see, in terms of climate

1106
00:51:11,435 --> 00:51:15,372
change, not just in terms of storms, but we see

1107
00:51:15,372 --> 00:51:17,341
what's going on out west.

1108
00:51:17,341 --> 00:51:20,110
we see the threat to our food.

1109
00:51:20,110 --> 00:51:23,247
we see the threat to our health health.

1110
00:51:23,247 --> 00:51:26,383
we see potential changes as the infectious disease

1111
00:51:26,383 --> 00:51:29,520
of elderly people dying because they're too hot.

1112
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:33,570
like we see the threats, we cannot turn away

1113
00:51:33,570 --> 00:51:33,457
anymore.

1114
00:51:33,457 --> 00:51:37,394
um, so as we end the relationship with pse and

1115
00:51:37,394 --> 00:51:40,931
g, this gives us an opportunity for a new

1116
00:51:40,931 --> 00:51:43,667
relationship, that public power grants us.

1117
00:51:43,667 --> 00:51:47,204
um, we're also going to have to entirely change

1118
00:51:47,204 --> 00:51:50,374
the way that we produce and consume energy.

1119
00:51:50,374 --> 00:51:52,343
we have to do it.

1120
00:51:52,343 --> 00:51:53,911
there is no option.

1121
00:51:53,911 --> 00:51:58,616
um, and on top of it, the way we consume energy is

1122
00:51:58,616 --> 00:52:00,985
actually going to be more electrified.

1123
00:52:00,985 --> 00:52:04,521
so it's going to be putting even more pressure

1124
00:52:04,521 --> 00:52:07,658
and strain on the infrastructure that is in

1125
00:52:07,658 --> 00:52:11,195
turn, also threatened by these storms that are only

1126
00:52:11,195 --> 00:52:13,564
going to get bigger and bigger.

1127
00:52:13,564 --> 00:52:17,868
um, so in the process, we also need to be creating

1128
00:52:17,868 --> 00:52:19,837
clean energy and efficient energy.

1129
00:52:19,837 --> 00:52:24,174
we need to get away from fossil fuels so that we

1130
00:52:24,174 --> 00:52:27,311
are not exacerbating the problem that is creating

1131
00:52:27,311 --> 00:52:28,112
the storms.

1132
00:52:28,112 --> 00:52:31,248
um, but it's not all doom and gloom.

1133
00:52:31,248 --> 00:52:35,185
like I said, it really is an opportunity for public

1134
00:52:35,185 --> 00:52:35,586
power.

1135
00:52:35,586 --> 00:52:38,322
this is a huge opportunity for us.

1136
00:52:38,322 --> 00:52:40,691
um, we can create new jobs.

1137
00:52:40,691 --> 00:52:44,628
we can make sure that those jobs are going to

1138
00:52:44,628 --> 00:52:47,765
people who have been most unjustly effected by

1139
00:52:47,765 --> 00:52:50,901
climate change by pollution, by all of this,

1140
00:52:50,901 --> 00:52:54,380
by just the unfairness of life itself.

1141
00:52:54,380 --> 00:52:57,207
this is a huge opportunity and we cannot

1142
00:52:57,207 --> 00:53:00,344
rely on a corporate entity to do this.

1143
00:53:00,344 --> 00:53:04,281
this is something that we have to do together as

1144
00:53:04,281 --> 00:53:06,250
communities, as government, as scientists,

1145
00:53:06,250 --> 00:53:08,185
and we need community input.

1146
00:53:08,185 --> 00:53:10,954
we need community members at the table.

1147
00:53:10,954 --> 00:53:14,892
I said before, in other meetings, we know what we

1148
00:53:14,892 --> 00:53:15,259
need.

1149
00:53:15,259 --> 00:53:17,227
we know what we want.

1150
00:53:17,227 --> 00:53:21,165
and when we work together with experts and we work

1151
00:53:21,165 --> 00:53:23,934
together with labor, we can do this.

1152
00:53:23,934 --> 00:53:29,440
we do not need pse and g um, we need to end, um, we

1153
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:32,576
need to end this relationship and we need

1154
00:53:32,576 --> 00:53:33,343
public power.

1155
00:53:33,343 --> 00:53:36,880
thank you so much for letting me speak.

1156
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:40,417
thank you, laura, for your comments on next up

1157
00:53:40,417 --> 00:53:43,587
will be mike brady followed by ryan madden

1158
00:53:43,587 --> 00:53:46,723
and then george, povo like, we're bringing you

1159
00:53:46,723 --> 00:53:47,891
in now.

1160
00:53:47,891 --> 00:53:49,860
I, can you hear me?

1161
00:53:49,860 --> 00:53:50,661
we can.

1162
00:53:50,661 --> 00:53:51,610
great.

1163
00:53:51,610 --> 00:53:55,365
uh, my name is michael brady and I am a repair

1164
00:53:55,365 --> 00:53:56,567
from kings park.

1165
00:53:56,567 --> 00:54:00,871
I am also an attorney by profession and I am a

1166
00:54:00,871 --> 00:54:03,640
volunteer with law and progressive coalition and

1167
00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:04,808
cooperation long island.

1168
00:54:04,808 --> 00:54:08,345
I'm here to encourage the board to end leiper's

1169
00:54:08,345 --> 00:54:11,882
relationship with pse and g and to instead pursue

1170
00:54:11,882 --> 00:54:14,618
full municipalization of the long island power

1171
00:54:14,618 --> 00:54:15,180
grid.

1172
00:54:15,180 --> 00:54:16,587
other speakers tonight have.

1173
00:54:16,587 --> 00:54:20,124
and we'll continue to outline for you a variety

1174
00:54:20,124 --> 00:54:22,920
of excellent reasons for municipalization,

1175
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:24,610
including enormous cost savings, operational

1176
00:54:24,610 --> 00:54:26,290
efficiency, and the overwhelming public

1177
00:54:26,290 --> 00:54:28,799
support that has been expressed in virtually

1178
00:54:28,799 --> 00:54:31,135
every recent meeting of this board.

1179
00:54:31,135 --> 00:54:35,720
as well as into public hearing that was held in

1180
00:54:35,720 --> 00:54:37,841
may your own options analysis shows the

1181
00:54:37,841 --> 00:54:39,776
overwhelming benefit of full municipalization.

1182
00:54:39,776 --> 00:54:43,714
it is abundantly clear that this is the only way

1183
00:54:43,714 --> 00:54:46,483
to go yet, almost immediately after the

1184
00:54:46,483 --> 00:54:50,200
hearing in may this board, perhaps with some strong

1185
00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:52,756
prodding from a certain governor, decided to

1186
00:54:52,756 --> 00:54:56,293
pursue a different path and double down with pse

1187
00:54:56,293 --> 00:54:59,620
and g despite its abysmal performance.

1188
00:54:59,620 --> 00:55:01,398
well that governor is gone now.

1189
00:55:01,398 --> 00:55:04,935
so perhaps we can revisit things and pursuing a

1190
00:55:04,935 --> 00:55:05,736
rational course.

1191
00:55:05,736 --> 00:55:09,673
I'd like to take a different tack and try to

1192
00:55:09,673 --> 00:55:12,409
convince you to change this course because

1193
00:55:12,409 --> 00:55:15,179
entering this contract is a horrible business

1194
00:55:15,179 --> 00:55:15,579
decision.

1195
00:55:15,579 --> 00:55:19,483
as an attorney, I often tell my clients that a

1196
00:55:19,483 --> 00:55:23,420
contract is only as good as the parties that are

1197
00:55:23,420 --> 00:55:24,988
involved in the transaction.

1198
00:55:24,988 --> 00:55:29,726
it is my belief that pse and g is not a good

1199
00:55:29,726 --> 00:55:31,695
partner and cannot be trusted.

1200
00:55:31,695 --> 00:55:33,630
why do I believe that?

1201
00:55:33,630 --> 00:55:37,201
because the lipid board has repeatedly told me, so

1202
00:55:37,201 --> 00:55:41,104
the board has accused pse and g of being woefully

1203
00:55:41,104 --> 00:55:42,306
unprepared for hurricane.

1204
00:55:42,306 --> 00:55:46,210
I say, yes, the board has repeatedly told us that

1205
00:55:46,210 --> 00:55:50,147
pse and g is not meeting the benchmarks that were

1206
00:55:50,147 --> 00:55:52,916
set to ensure that assistance upgrades were

1207
00:55:52,916 --> 00:55:54,885
completed in a timely manner.

1208
00:55:54,885 --> 00:55:58,210
so that such a disastrous storm response never

1209
00:55:58,210 --> 00:55:58,789
occurs again.

1210
00:55:58,789 --> 00:56:03,527
why would you trust pse and g and reward it with a

1211
00:56:03,527 --> 00:56:04,695
new contract?

1212
00:56:04,695 --> 00:56:08,232
well, we're told that this new contract is the

1213
00:56:08,232 --> 00:56:11,768
best deal that lipid has ever had, and that

1214
00:56:11,768 --> 00:56:13,737
includes large compensation penalties at

1215
00:56:13,737 --> 00:56:14,137
pse.

1216
00:56:14,137 --> 00:56:16,873
and g fails us again to that.

1217
00:56:16,873 --> 00:56:21,612
I say, so what, I'm here to tell you that as rate

1218
00:56:21,612 --> 00:56:25,549
payers, we don't want pse and g to reimburse our

1219
00:56:25,549 --> 00:56:25,916
money.

1220
00:56:25,916 --> 00:56:30,254
we don't want them to be paid in the first place.

1221
00:56:30,254 --> 00:56:34,958
what we do want is for our money to go towards a

1222
00:56:34,958 --> 00:56:36,927
durable and reliable power grid.

1223
00:56:36,927 --> 00:56:39,296
we want accessible communications and updates

1224
00:56:39,296 --> 00:56:41,665
in the advent of power outages.

1225
00:56:41,665 --> 00:56:44,401
we want rapid and efficient restoration of

1226
00:56:44,401 --> 00:56:44,801
service.

1227
00:56:44,801 --> 00:56:48,739
we want to pay electric fees that are not among

1228
00:56:48,739 --> 00:56:50,707
the highest in the country.

1229
00:56:50,707 --> 00:56:54,611
we want a utility that is agile and capable enough

1230
00:56:54,611 --> 00:56:57,381
to rapidly complete the critical transition to

1231
00:56:57,381 --> 00:57:00,117
renewable energy as mandated by the climate

1232
00:57:00,117 --> 00:57:02,850
leadership and community protection act.

1233
00:57:02,850 --> 00:57:06,230
as margaret said, we don't want our money going to

1234
00:57:06,230 --> 00:57:09,159
shareholders, which has been happening for far too

1235
00:57:09,159 --> 00:57:13,960
long after we built bailed out lipid, I'm sorry, loco

1236
00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:17,434
so many years ago, um, at a cost that we're still

1237
00:57:17,434 --> 00:57:18,201
paying today.

1238
00:57:18,201 --> 00:57:21,738
what we demand is utility that is responsive and

1239
00:57:21,738 --> 00:57:24,908
accountable to the people we demand public power.

1240
00:57:24,908 --> 00:57:26,760
thank you.

1241
00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:27,644
thank you, mr. Brady.

1242
00:57:27,644 --> 00:57:28,812
uh, next step.

1243
00:57:28,812 --> 00:57:32,349
we'll have ryan madden then george paval and then

1244
00:57:32,349 --> 00:57:35,118
timothy carson after george ryan, we're moving

1245
00:57:35,118 --> 00:57:36,687
you in now.

1246
00:57:36,687 --> 00:57:38,655
can you hear me wonderful.

1247
00:57:38,655 --> 00:57:42,192
um, good evening, everyone and lovely to see everyone

1248
00:57:42,192 --> 00:57:43,360
again this week.

1249
00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:45,729
uh, my name is ryan madden.

1250
00:57:45,729 --> 00:57:48,465
I'm the sustainability organizer with the long

1251
00:57:48,465 --> 00:57:49,666
island progressive coalition.

1252
00:57:49,666 --> 00:57:52,200
uh, we are a grassroots community-based

1253
00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:53,603
organization founded in 1979.

1254
00:57:53,603 --> 00:57:57,140
we fight for structural change at the local state

1255
00:57:57,140 --> 00:57:59,876
and national levels to attain racial justice,

1256
00:57:59,876 --> 00:58:02,646
build community wealth and realize adjust, transition

1257
00:58:02,646 --> 00:58:05,382
to a hundred percent renewable energy future

1258
00:58:05,382 --> 00:58:08,919
beginning in november of, uh, 2020, the long island,

1259
00:58:08,919 --> 00:58:11,288
progressive coalition, suffolk county and nassau

1260
00:58:11,288 --> 00:58:14,825
county chapters of dsa and food, or waterwatch came

1261
00:58:14,825 --> 00:58:17,961
together to urge the long island power authority,

1262
00:58:17,961 --> 00:58:21,498
determinate his contract with pse and g long island

1263
00:58:21,498 --> 00:58:23,467
municipalize and democratize in the

1264
00:58:23,467 --> 00:58:26,203
aftermath of tropical storm, sis, which resulted

1265
00:58:26,203 --> 00:58:29,373
in a 645,000 long island residents without power

1266
00:58:29,373 --> 00:58:32,909
for on average, more than two to seven days.

1267
00:58:32,909 --> 00:58:36,446
over the past, we have built a network of

1268
00:58:36,446 --> 00:58:38,415
supporters through the re-imagined lipid

1269
00:58:38,415 --> 00:58:40,751
statements consistently mobilized rate payers to

1270
00:58:40,751 --> 00:58:44,287
weigh in at monthly board meetings, held forums on

1271
00:58:44,287 --> 00:58:47,570
the benefits of public power with diverse

1272
00:58:47,570 --> 00:58:49,793
stakeholders and decision makers created toolkits.

1273
00:58:49,793 --> 00:58:52,562
this for additional public action, worked with

1274
00:58:52,562 --> 00:58:55,298
relevant elected officials to amplify those issue

1275
00:58:55,298 --> 00:58:58,468
statewide and publish op-eds and letters to the

1276
00:58:58,468 --> 00:59:02,500
editor and multiple media outlets and light all, all

1277
00:59:02,500 --> 00:59:02,773
of this.

1278
00:59:02,773 --> 00:59:05,542
um, the groundswell of community elected and

1279
00:59:05,542 --> 00:59:08,278
public support, um, for, uh, the full

1280
00:59:08,278 --> 00:59:10,647
municipalization of the long island power

1281
00:59:10,647 --> 00:59:11,470
authority.

1282
00:59:11,470 --> 00:59:14,951
uh, we are here to say that this new contract

1283
00:59:14,951 --> 00:59:17,721
does not fix the fundamentally flawed model

1284
00:59:17,721 --> 00:59:22,250
of our utility and that we need to meet as flies.

1285
00:59:22,250 --> 00:59:25,195
it is impossible to comment on this reform

1286
00:59:25,195 --> 00:59:27,531
contract without noting the structural issues

1287
00:59:27,531 --> 00:59:28,331
surrounding this.

1288
00:59:28,331 --> 00:59:31,868
we are also concerned as was raised earlier that

1289
00:59:31,868 --> 00:59:33,837
this contract is moving forward.

1290
00:59:33,837 --> 00:59:36,573
uh, moving ahead, uh, before the attorney

1291
00:59:36,573 --> 00:59:38,942
general finishes or investigation into whether

1292
00:59:38,942 --> 00:59:42,879
pse and g has failed sis response broke state laws,

1293
00:59:42,879 --> 00:59:46,817
uh, and before we know the responsiveness of the new

1294
00:59:46,817 --> 00:59:49,553
storm outage management computer system that pse

1295
00:59:49,553 --> 00:59:53,890
and g has been collected to deliver on, we urge the

1296
00:59:53,890 --> 00:59:57,427
lipid board to delay this vote and suspend this

1297
00:59:57,427 --> 01:00:00,564
process until they have more information on which

1298
01:00:00,564 --> 01:00:04,501
to make a sound decision as was noted earlier, too,

1299
01:00:04,501 --> 01:00:08,438
um, and reflected by, um, by other speakers, is that

1300
01:00:08,438 --> 01:00:11,975
decisions about the future of the long island power

1301
01:00:11,975 --> 01:00:15,111
authority and its relationship to pse and g,

1302
01:00:15,111 --> 01:00:19,490
um, should belong to the rate payers of this region

1303
01:00:19,490 --> 01:00:22,586
and the rate payers of this regional loan and

1304
01:00:22,586 --> 01:00:23,753
former governor.

1305
01:00:23,753 --> 01:00:27,691
andrew cuomo only had his legacy in mind when he

1306
01:00:27,691 --> 01:00:31,228
pushed light pcyc to renew terms earlier in july.

1307
01:00:31,228 --> 01:00:33,964
he, in that decision deliberately ignore long

1308
01:00:33,964 --> 01:00:37,133
island rate payers and elected officials, um, and

1309
01:00:37,133 --> 01:00:40,270
instead exerted his influence on behalf of pse

1310
01:00:40,270 --> 01:00:43,406
and g as was mentioned, his resignation, this

1311
01:00:43,406 --> 01:00:46,543
entire deal has been called into question, and

1312
01:00:46,543 --> 01:00:49,713
we believe the onus is now on governor.

1313
01:00:49,713 --> 01:00:52,849
hocal just your course back towards public power.

1314
01:00:52,849 --> 01:00:55,585
she must reject her predecessors failed vision

1315
01:00:55,585 --> 01:00:59,523
for our region and embrace a power proven model for

1316
01:00:59,523 --> 01:01:01,491
ensuring long island enjoys, reliable,

1317
01:01:01,491 --> 01:01:04,261
affordable, and renewable power, regardless of the

1318
01:01:04,261 --> 01:01:07,397
content of this new contract, a decision to

1319
01:01:07,397 --> 01:01:11,334
move ahead and not commit to public power, um, would

1320
01:01:11,334 --> 01:01:14,700
be an insult long island and rockaway's

1321
01:01:14,700 --> 01:01:15,639
communities, the dereliction of

1322
01:01:15,639 --> 01:01:18,408
responsibility to the need of democratic management

1323
01:01:18,408 --> 01:01:22,312
of our system and a grave mistake as the climate

1324
01:01:22,312 --> 01:01:25,482
crisis worsens, as we know, lipid can save

1325
01:01:25,482 --> 01:01:29,190
nearly $1 billion over the next day decade through

1326
01:01:29,190 --> 01:01:30,187
this process.

1327
01:01:30,187 --> 01:01:33,323
so instead of bonuses to unaccountable managers and

1328
01:01:33,323 --> 01:01:36,920
dividends to distant stockholders, we could see

1329
01:01:36,920 --> 01:01:38,828
lower rates and improved services for customers.

1330
01:01:38,828 --> 01:01:41,598
it was communicated earlier this year, uh,

1331
01:01:41,598 --> 01:01:44,734
during a new york state senate budget, hearing

1332
01:01:44,734 --> 01:01:48,672
that life, uh, had in its power, the ability to

1333
01:01:48,672 --> 01:01:51,408
municipalize on its own, once the tentative

1334
01:01:51,408 --> 01:01:54,578
agreement was struck in july, this assertion was

1335
01:01:54,578 --> 01:01:58,481
walked back and pushed to albany to decide while we

1336
01:01:58,481 --> 01:02:01,651
will work with albany to make necessary legislative

1337
01:02:01,651 --> 01:02:02,180
changes.

1338
01:02:02,180 --> 01:02:05,188
we asked that lipid continue to flesh out

1339
01:02:05,188 --> 01:02:08,325
options for and support the development of a

1340
01:02:08,325 --> 01:02:10,293
roadmap to a fully system.

1341
01:02:10,293 --> 01:02:13,830
if the lipid board does move ahead with this

1342
01:02:13,830 --> 01:02:17,767
contract, it must at the very least commit to not

1343
01:02:17,767 --> 01:02:18,535
renewing it.

1344
01:02:18,535 --> 01:02:21,304
after 2025 and began working with community

1345
01:02:21,304 --> 01:02:24,441
stakeholders right now to build a public power

1346
01:02:24,441 --> 01:02:28,378
system, we deserve lipid must also heat the call to

1347
01:02:28,378 --> 01:02:30,714
engage in more robust, intentional community

1348
01:02:30,714 --> 01:02:33,883
engagement in the conduct of utility operations.

1349
01:02:33,883 --> 01:02:36,219
while these public comment sessions are

1350
01:02:36,219 --> 01:02:38,989
appreciated and vital, they also feel somewhat

1351
01:02:38,989 --> 01:02:40,557
insincere by their impact.

1352
01:02:40,557 --> 01:02:43,693
maybe not by their intense, the public had

1353
01:02:43,693 --> 01:02:47,631
less than 30 days to read a 300 page contract,

1354
01:02:47,631 --> 01:02:50,767
digest it, develop comments on it, and then

1355
01:02:50,767 --> 01:02:51,968
deliver those comments.

1356
01:02:51,968 --> 01:02:55,505
the majority of the turnout for these, uh, um,

1357
01:02:55,505 --> 01:02:58,642
sessions is based on the work of community

1358
01:02:58,642 --> 01:03:02,178
organizations like ours and not the efforts of the

1359
01:03:02,178 --> 01:03:03,747
utility to seek input.

1360
01:03:03,747 --> 01:03:06,883
and as seen during the options analysis comment

1361
01:03:06,883 --> 01:03:09,653
sessions, public input does not translate into

1362
01:03:09,653 --> 01:03:10,420
utility response.

1363
01:03:10,420 --> 01:03:13,957
it often feels that proposals put before us to

1364
01:03:13,957 --> 01:03:16,326
comment on our decisions already made.

1365
01:03:16,326 --> 01:03:20,263
we need a democratic lipid that is accountable to our

1366
01:03:20,263 --> 01:03:21,310
region's communities.

1367
01:03:21,310 --> 01:03:24,968
a lipid that is led by those most impacted by

1368
01:03:24,968 --> 01:03:26,936
decisions concerning our energy system.

1369
01:03:26,936 --> 01:03:29,305
that includes rate payers, workers, municipalities,

1370
01:03:29,305 --> 01:03:31,274
community organizations, low-income households, and

1371
01:03:31,274 --> 01:03:32,442
environmental justice communities.

1372
01:03:32,442 --> 01:03:36,780
we must ensure that those who use pay for and work

1373
01:03:36,780 --> 01:03:41,484
for the system have a say in how it runs despite the

1374
01:03:41,484 --> 01:03:45,210
flawed model utilized and its conduct lipid is, and

1375
01:03:45,210 --> 01:03:48,558
probably claims to be a public power utility.

1376
01:03:48,558 --> 01:03:51,695
and that must mean the operation management and

1377
01:03:51,695 --> 01:03:54,640
policy making of the electric utility

1378
01:03:54,640 --> 01:03:57,200
exclusively by the public for the public interest,

1379
01:03:57,200 --> 01:04:00,737
which can only be the case with ongoing and

1380
01:04:00,737 --> 01:04:01,538
meaningful engagements.

1381
01:04:01,538 --> 01:04:05,750
lipomas heed the call for public power, which only

1382
01:04:05,750 --> 01:04:08,611
grows louder every day on long island throughout the

1383
01:04:08,611 --> 01:04:10,580
state and across the country.

1384
01:04:10,580 --> 01:04:14,117
we can not afford more delays, further delay as

1385
01:04:14,117 --> 01:04:17,654
for their time money and resources waste on a

1386
01:04:17,654 --> 01:04:20,230
utility model that is structurally unreliable

1387
01:04:20,230 --> 01:04:22,759
and accountable and more expensive, more expensive.

1388
01:04:22,759 --> 01:04:26,696
none of this is addressed by the proposal before us

1389
01:04:26,696 --> 01:04:28,665
today, and we deserve better.

1390
01:04:28,665 --> 01:04:31,000
thank you for your time.

1391
01:04:31,000 --> 01:04:33,770
thank you for your comments, brian.

1392
01:04:33,770 --> 01:04:37,307
I was certainly always going to do want to

1393
01:04:37,307 --> 01:04:40,443
acknowledge the tremendous amount of time that ryan

1394
01:04:40,443 --> 01:04:44,380
has spent, and he's been at every life, a board

1395
01:04:44,380 --> 01:04:47,150
meeting and follow these first so closely.

1396
01:04:47,150 --> 01:04:49,486
so I do appreciate that.

1397
01:04:49,486 --> 01:04:53,220
uh, so george will be next followed by timothy

1398
01:04:53,220 --> 01:04:55,792
carson and then william novella, george, we're

1399
01:04:55,792 --> 01:04:59,329
bringing you in now, george you're on mute.

1400
01:04:59,329 --> 01:05:00,960
hey everybody.

1401
01:05:00,960 --> 01:05:03,633
it's george paul, val from all our energy executive

1402
01:05:03,633 --> 01:05:04,330
director.

1403
01:05:04,330 --> 01:05:07,971
uh, look, all our energy is a long island energy

1404
01:05:07,971 --> 01:05:09,939
and environment protection non-profit organization.

1405
01:05:09,939 --> 01:05:12,675
and I want to thank you, tom.

1406
01:05:12,675 --> 01:05:17,130
and the board for all of the work that you have

1407
01:05:17,130 --> 01:05:20,550
parked to improve our utility over the past 16

1408
01:05:20,550 --> 01:05:24,888
months in the push to move to what was for everyone

1409
01:05:24,888 --> 01:05:27,624
involved, the obvious choice of public power.

1410
01:05:27,624 --> 01:05:30,760
it's not that this contract doesn't make an

1411
01:05:30,760 --> 01:05:31,161
improvement.

1412
01:05:31,161 --> 01:05:34,697
the problem is not just about the contract, nor

1413
01:05:34,697 --> 01:05:35,498
the contractor.

1414
01:05:35,498 --> 01:05:38,234
it's the system of a public private

1415
01:05:38,234 --> 01:05:38,635
partnership.

1416
01:05:38,635 --> 01:05:41,771
it just continues to leave long islanders vulnerable,

1417
01:05:41,771 --> 01:05:44,908
to storms in favor of profits and business

1418
01:05:44,908 --> 01:05:48,770
interests above rate payer interests and leaves us

1419
01:05:48,770 --> 01:05:50,460
not ready for the future.

1420
01:05:50,460 --> 01:05:52,382
that system just has to go.

1421
01:05:52,382 --> 01:05:55,919
we need a full public takeover of pseg long

1422
01:05:55,919 --> 01:05:58,688
island operations to the municipal and accountable

1423
01:05:58,688 --> 01:06:01,825
lipid to gain greater grid security, cost reduction,

1424
01:06:01,825 --> 01:06:02,992
resiliency, responsiveness, and

1425
01:06:02,992 --> 01:06:03,793
accountability.

1426
01:06:03,793 --> 01:06:06,930
any new contract merely just extends the current

1427
01:06:06,930 --> 01:06:09,299
problems, risks, our safety and delays.

1428
01:06:09,299 --> 01:06:12,435
the inevitable transition that we truly thank the

1429
01:06:12,435 --> 01:06:15,205
past and presently outgoing board members for

1430
01:06:15,205 --> 01:06:19,108
their service with much of the board to be new

1431
01:06:19,108 --> 01:06:23,460
members early in the year, we do feel having them

1432
01:06:23,460 --> 01:06:26,583
decide such an important matter and then leave in

1433
01:06:26,583 --> 01:06:29,719
the coming weeks, just diminishes the great work

1434
01:06:29,719 --> 01:06:32,889
the board has done, and it diminishes accountability

1435
01:06:32,889 --> 01:06:36,426
that has been so missing from this entire process.

1436
01:06:36,426 --> 01:06:38,761
this regression back to unaccountability was

1437
01:06:38,761 --> 01:06:43,990
dropped like a bomb on all of us by the disgraced

1438
01:06:43,990 --> 01:06:45,835
former governor, and for better, for worse.

1439
01:06:45,835 --> 01:06:49,500
this allows his outgoing appointees to approve his

1440
01:06:49,500 --> 01:06:50,974
backroom deal and walk away.

1441
01:06:50,974 --> 01:06:54,110
and likewise we'll allow any new board members

1442
01:06:54,110 --> 01:06:57,647
simply to point to the past board, uh, leaving

1443
01:06:57,647 --> 01:07:00,783
the rest of us vulnerable for this, uh,

1444
01:07:00,783 --> 01:07:03,553
accountability, uh, that will be missing.

1445
01:07:03,553 --> 01:07:05,889
additionally, those contract on paper allows

1446
01:07:05,889 --> 01:07:07,857
for more metrics for accountability.

1447
01:07:07,857 --> 01:07:12,195
will the board actually go out of their way to fully

1448
01:07:12,195 --> 01:07:12,962
enforce it?

1449
01:07:12,962 --> 01:07:16,900
when we will be faced with the same question then,

1450
01:07:16,900 --> 01:07:19,669
which is who will control our grid.

1451
01:07:19,669 --> 01:07:23,206
if an unhappy contractor holds all the power and

1452
01:07:23,206 --> 01:07:26,743
stands between us and our grid, the provision for

1453
01:07:26,743 --> 01:07:30,280
nearly a year severance as well in management fees

1454
01:07:30,280 --> 01:07:33,816
for failure on such a short term contract still

1455
01:07:33,816 --> 01:07:35,785
leaves us in diminishing returns.

1456
01:07:35,785 --> 01:07:40,890
it might be a bonus for them to even get fired.

1457
01:07:40,890 --> 01:07:44,427
at some point, the proof of this is, is this being

1458
01:07:44,427 --> 01:07:47,964
a possible outcome is pseg long island testifying to

1459
01:07:47,964 --> 01:07:51,100
the new york state assembly a month after

1460
01:07:51,100 --> 01:07:53,870
this, uh, contract was announced that everything

1461
01:07:53,870 --> 01:07:57,774
was under control and not going to be a problem.

1462
01:07:57,774 --> 01:08:01,711
and then just a few days later with hurricane henri

1463
01:08:01,711 --> 01:08:05,648
coming up the coast, we were told to prepare for

1464
01:08:05,648 --> 01:08:08,480
10 to 14 days without power.

1465
01:08:08,418 --> 01:08:09,185
wait, what?

1466
01:08:09,185 --> 01:08:12,322
anyway, not withstanding that there still is no

1467
01:08:12,322 --> 01:08:12,722
guarantee.

1468
01:08:12,722 --> 01:08:16,259
they are going to be a willing and cooperative

1469
01:08:16,259 --> 01:08:19,280
participant in any transition away from them

1470
01:08:19,280 --> 01:08:19,395
ever.

1471
01:08:19,395 --> 01:08:22,165
and I see little difference, whether it

1472
01:08:22,165 --> 01:08:25,702
happens sooner or later, they have done much to

1473
01:08:25,702 --> 01:08:30,390
prove that they will not act in a way that benefits

1474
01:08:30,390 --> 01:08:34,344
us as, uh, as, as shown by their public duty attested

1475
01:08:34,344 --> 01:08:37,113
in accuracies and untruths, um, which I've

1476
01:08:37,113 --> 01:08:39,849
just mapped that past the breaking point.

1477
01:08:39,849 --> 01:08:43,786
we cannot allow them to continue to hold our power

1478
01:08:43,786 --> 01:08:44,554
over us.

1479
01:08:44,554 --> 01:08:46,923
we need to take it back.

1480
01:08:46,923 --> 01:08:49,692
this resolution to the ongoing problems though,

1481
01:08:49,692 --> 01:08:53,229
exemplifies why we believe that the lipid board and

1482
01:08:53,229 --> 01:08:55,965
ultimately governor hogan have a responsibility to

1483
01:08:55,965 --> 01:08:58,735
steer our course forward towards public power.

1484
01:08:58,735 --> 01:09:00,670
thank you all so much.

1485
01:09:00,670 --> 01:09:02,639
thank you, george timothy carson.

1486
01:09:02,639 --> 01:09:05,808
you're up next followed by william novella then

1487
01:09:05,808 --> 01:09:06,976
jennifer green.

1488
01:09:06,976 --> 01:09:08,144
good afternoon, everybody.

1489
01:09:08,144 --> 01:09:09,345
uh, my check.

1490
01:09:09,345 --> 01:09:11,314
everyone can hear me right.

1491
01:09:11,314 --> 01:09:11,681
cool.

1492
01:09:11,681 --> 01:09:13,649
could even hear me, everybody.

1493
01:09:13,649 --> 01:09:15,218
I live in cinereach.

1494
01:09:15,218 --> 01:09:19,555
my name is tim and I'm an organizer with the suffolk

1495
01:09:19,555 --> 01:09:21,524
county democratic socialists of america.

1496
01:09:21,524 --> 01:09:25,610
this reformed contract with peace egg is a half

1497
01:09:25,610 --> 01:09:28,598
measure when leiba needs to use a full measure.

1498
01:09:28,598 --> 01:09:30,967
the contract needs to be terminated.

1499
01:09:30,967 --> 01:09:34,103
the failed public private partnership model needs to

1500
01:09:34,103 --> 01:09:38,410
go and like it needs to be fully democratized, a

1501
01:09:38,410 --> 01:09:41,944
shorter leash on pse and g doesn't mean much when

1502
01:09:41,944 --> 01:09:45,515
public power is a better deal for long island.

1503
01:09:45,515 --> 01:09:47,850
maybe there's a $60 million fine.

1504
01:09:47,850 --> 01:09:51,387
like you said, mr. Falcon, but lipid zone analysis

1505
01:09:51,387 --> 01:09:55,324
says it would save nearly a billion dollars over the

1506
01:09:55,324 --> 01:09:56,125
next decade.

1507
01:09:56,125 --> 01:09:59,662
if the piece of that contract was terminated in

1508
01:09:59,662 --> 01:10:01,998
favor of full municipalization, the only

1509
01:10:01,998 --> 01:10:05,168
reason the contract was agreed upon the first

1510
01:10:05,168 --> 01:10:07,503
place is former governor cuomo.

1511
01:10:07,503 --> 01:10:10,273
so why should we settle for this?

1512
01:10:10,273 --> 01:10:13,409
exactly long island can make such a powerful

1513
01:10:13,409 --> 01:10:16,145
statement by severing ties with wasteful and

1514
01:10:16,145 --> 01:10:19,315
inefficient management of psa and siding with the

1515
01:10:19,315 --> 01:10:21,284
people that serves stakeholders and

1516
01:10:21,284 --> 01:10:23,619
ratepayers and climate change is unfortunately

1517
01:10:23,619 --> 01:10:24,821
here to stay.

1518
01:10:24,821 --> 01:10:29,125
we can expect some storms in the future to be worse

1519
01:10:29,125 --> 01:10:32,261
than tropical storms that we've witnessed in the

1520
01:10:32,261 --> 01:10:32,662
past.

1521
01:10:32,662 --> 01:10:36,599
personally, I want us to be prepared in the best

1522
01:10:36,599 --> 01:10:40,536
way we can not by having a private management service

1523
01:10:40,536 --> 01:10:43,272
provider, but a publicly owned and operated

1524
01:10:43,272 --> 01:10:46,442
utility, which of course already service about 15%

1525
01:10:46,442 --> 01:10:49,979
of americans are 13% cheaper and have 46% fewer

1526
01:10:49,979 --> 01:10:50,746
power outages.

1527
01:10:50,746 --> 01:10:53,883
the benefits of public power check, all the

1528
01:10:53,883 --> 01:10:54,283
boxes.

1529
01:10:54,283 --> 01:10:55,852
the choice is easy.

1530
01:10:55,852 --> 01:10:59,210
terminate the contract with peace sag and let's

1531
01:10:59,210 --> 01:11:00,590
democratize our power system.

1532
01:11:00,590 --> 01:11:01,758
thank you.

1533
01:11:01,758 --> 01:11:02,925
thank you, timothy.

1534
01:11:02,925 --> 01:11:06,863
uh, william develo will be up next followed by paul

1535
01:11:06,863 --> 01:11:07,263
merchenson.

1536
01:11:07,263 --> 01:11:11,200
I know, um, there were some folks that had their

1537
01:11:11,200 --> 01:11:13,569
hand up to put them down.

1538
01:11:13,569 --> 01:11:17,473
um, if there are people that would like to speak

1539
01:11:17,473 --> 01:11:21,100
on this matter, I would ask, please raise your

1540
01:11:21,100 --> 01:11:22,979
hand, william and the vela.

1541
01:11:22,979 --> 01:11:25,348
we are gonna move you in.

1542
01:11:25,348 --> 01:11:26,149
okay.

1543
01:11:26,149 --> 01:11:26,916
thank you.

1544
01:11:26,916 --> 01:11:28,885
my name is william novella.

1545
01:11:28,885 --> 01:11:32,822
I am a member of the nassau county chapter of

1546
01:11:32,822 --> 01:11:34,790
the democratic socialists of america.

1547
01:11:34,790 --> 01:11:39,950
and you know, when I came here tonight, there are a

1548
01:11:39,950 --> 01:11:44,200
few words that I had when I thought of pse and g um,

1549
01:11:44,200 --> 01:11:45,401
one was albatross.

1550
01:11:45,401 --> 01:11:48,938
the other was parasite, and either one was changed

1551
01:11:48,938 --> 01:11:51,307
by the presentation presented the speed,

1552
01:11:51,307 --> 01:11:52,475
meaning by life.

1553
01:11:52,475 --> 01:11:55,211
uh, there was absolutely nothing in that

1554
01:11:55,211 --> 01:11:57,580
presentation that demonstrated that pse and

1555
01:11:57,580 --> 01:11:59,949
g is performance in their time.

1556
01:11:59,949 --> 01:12:03,486
contracted out by life, uh, has done anything to

1557
01:12:03,486 --> 01:12:07,230
benefit really long island and has done nothing but

1558
01:12:07,230 --> 01:12:10,560
cost taxpayers much and bring harm to the people

1559
01:12:10,560 --> 01:12:11,727
in our communities.

1560
01:12:11,727 --> 01:12:14,497
excuse me, the relationship here seems to

1561
01:12:14,497 --> 01:12:18,801
be that lipid seems to be meaning to pay more and

1562
01:12:18,801 --> 01:12:22,338
more, create more and more metrics in order to

1563
01:12:22,338 --> 01:12:25,875
oversight pse and g for the work that they're

1564
01:12:25,875 --> 01:12:29,412
supposed to be doing on their own, creating more

1565
01:12:29,412 --> 01:12:32,181
costs for a mill managed relationship.

1566
01:12:32,181 --> 01:12:35,718
that seems to be quite more contractual and quite

1567
01:12:35,718 --> 01:12:39,255
frankly, abusive for the people of long island who

1568
01:12:39,255 --> 01:12:41,991
are clearly having this thrusted upon them.

1569
01:12:41,991 --> 01:12:45,928
because I would say that there are very few people

1570
01:12:45,928 --> 01:12:47,496
from the ordinary public.

1571
01:12:47,496 --> 01:12:50,266
you you're to actually give public testimony.

1572
01:12:50,266 --> 01:12:54,203
many of us who are privileged to be here this

1573
01:12:54,203 --> 01:12:56,939
evening, and quite frankly, you know, having

1574
01:12:56,939 --> 01:13:00,760
less than two months to provide public testimony

1575
01:13:00,760 --> 01:13:04,130
on it is very disingenuous on your part to push

1576
01:13:04,130 --> 01:13:06,382
forward such a contract on people.

1577
01:13:06,382 --> 01:13:10,686
so it seems to me that there seems to be very

1578
01:13:10,686 --> 01:13:12,655
little to be done here.

1579
01:13:12,655 --> 01:13:16,993
and this seems to be a decision that is going to

1580
01:13:16,993 --> 01:13:20,129
be pushed down no matter what happens after

1581
01:13:20,129 --> 01:13:20,930
december 9th.

1582
01:13:20,930 --> 01:13:24,660
so I just wanted to express that clearly

1583
01:13:24,660 --> 01:13:27,203
universalization would be the best course of action

1584
01:13:27,203 --> 01:13:31,540
that pse and g needs to be eliminated as a working

1585
01:13:31,540 --> 01:13:34,277
partner with lipid as soon as possible.

1586
01:13:34,277 --> 01:13:38,214
and if that is not the case and the flippa

1587
01:13:38,214 --> 01:13:42,919
refuses to do that, then it is up to the public and

1588
01:13:42,919 --> 01:13:46,455
to the state government to thrust a decision to

1589
01:13:46,455 --> 01:13:47,256
change that.

1590
01:13:47,256 --> 01:13:49,225
and that's where I'm at.

1591
01:13:49,225 --> 01:13:49,992
thank you.

1592
01:13:49,992 --> 01:13:51,594
and have a

1593
01:13:51,594 --> 01:13:52,762
good evening.

1594
01:13:52,762 --> 01:13:53,929
thank you, william.

1595
01:13:53,929 --> 01:13:57,990
next step will be paul merchenson, uh, followed

1596
01:13:57,990 --> 01:13:59,835
by jeremy joseph, and then jennifer green.

1597
01:13:59,835 --> 01:14:00,236
okay.

1598
01:14:00,236 --> 01:14:01,804
call your unmute.

1599
01:14:01,804 --> 01:14:02,204
okay.

1600
01:14:02,204 --> 01:14:02,972
thank you.

1601
01:14:02,972 --> 01:14:07,310
um, my name's paul mark wilson, uh, I'm uh, on the

1602
01:14:07,310 --> 01:14:09,679
steering committee of transition town, port

1603
01:14:09,679 --> 01:14:10,460
washington.

1604
01:14:10,460 --> 01:14:13,582
we are a local community group on the port

1605
01:14:13,582 --> 01:14:16,352
washington peninsula, where our mission is to,

1606
01:14:16,352 --> 01:14:19,880
um, make our community safe, secure, sustainable,

1607
01:14:19,880 --> 01:14:22,258
and resilient in the face of climate change.

1608
01:14:22,258 --> 01:14:26,562
and clearly this issue is, uh, you know, uh, dear to

1609
01:14:26,562 --> 01:14:28,531
our mission of accomplishing those

1610
01:14:28,531 --> 01:14:28,931
objectives.

1611
01:14:28,931 --> 01:14:32,468
uh, so we're really urging, um, light, but not

1612
01:14:32,468 --> 01:14:34,837
to make a rush to judgment.

1613
01:14:34,837 --> 01:14:37,173
please let the attorney general finisher

1614
01:14:37,173 --> 01:14:39,942
investigation delay your vote until all the

1615
01:14:39,942 --> 01:14:41,110
information is there.

1616
01:14:41,110 --> 01:14:45,448
and I believe, I hope that the timing of this public

1617
01:14:45,448 --> 01:14:49,352
session is to allow you to hear and gain enough

1618
01:14:49,352 --> 01:14:54,900
support from the public to do that and to move down a

1619
01:14:54,900 --> 01:14:56,459
more responsible path, secure and affordable

1620
01:14:56,459 --> 01:14:56,826
power.

1621
01:14:56,826 --> 01:15:00,363
it's too important to be subject to private profit.

1622
01:15:00,363 --> 01:15:05,101
um, I was, you know, I was struck as eric weldon was

1623
01:15:05,101 --> 01:15:07,837
by the phrase duty of candor.

1624
01:15:07,837 --> 01:15:12,174
and I just have to say that, uh, I've spent over

1625
01:15:12,174 --> 01:15:15,711
40 years, um, in the, in the private sector

1626
01:15:15,711 --> 01:15:18,470
managing, uh, large management and, uh,

1627
01:15:18,470 --> 01:15:21,984
capital projects and a lot all over the world and

1628
01:15:21,984 --> 01:15:24,754
never have I come across that phase.

1629
01:15:24,754 --> 01:15:28,290
now I understand in the public sector that there

1630
01:15:28,290 --> 01:15:31,427
are regulations and there are different things that

1631
01:15:31,427 --> 01:15:34,964
affect, uh, contracts, but I've also worked in highly

1632
01:15:34,964 --> 01:15:36,932
regulated industries in highly regulated

1633
01:15:36,932 --> 01:15:37,333
environments.

1634
01:15:37,333 --> 01:15:40,870
and that phrase to me is a exclusionary phrase.

1635
01:15:40,870 --> 01:15:44,407
it just indicates that there is no level of

1636
01:15:44,407 --> 01:15:44,807
trust.

1637
01:15:44,807 --> 01:15:47,143
and you've, you've indicated that in

1638
01:15:47,143 --> 01:15:50,679
yourselves, in the past dealings, this is not an

1639
01:15:50,679 --> 01:15:53,449
organization pse and g that's forthcoming and

1640
01:15:53,449 --> 01:15:56,585
honest and trustworthy, and they need to be

1641
01:15:56,585 --> 01:15:59,722
eliminated on that basis if not poor performance.

1642
01:15:59,722 --> 01:16:04,460
so, um, it also speaks if that, if that was in prior

1643
01:16:04,460 --> 01:16:07,997
contract, it speaks to the bankruptcy of the model,

1644
01:16:07,997 --> 01:16:09,965
the private public partnerships.

1645
01:16:09,965 --> 01:16:11,934
and again, municipalization has a

1646
01:16:11,934 --> 01:16:15,710
much better track record in terms of performance

1647
01:16:15,710 --> 01:16:17,390
and, uh, and course delivery.

1648
01:16:17,390 --> 01:16:21,343
so again, it's, it's just, I feel for you because you

1649
01:16:21,343 --> 01:16:24,880
have to be shaking your heads off screen and

1650
01:16:24,880 --> 01:16:28,417
saying, yeah, we know this, we know this, we

1651
01:16:28,417 --> 01:16:31,954
know this, but you obviously have a lot of

1652
01:16:31,954 --> 01:16:35,891
other things to, uh, uh, you know, to navigate in

1653
01:16:35,891 --> 01:16:37,860
terms of your decision making.

1654
01:16:37,860 --> 01:16:41,797
but, uh, the public voice has to be an important

1655
01:16:41,797 --> 01:16:42,965
part of that.

1656
01:16:42,965 --> 01:16:47,303
so, you know, as, as, as have said, public power is

1657
01:16:47,303 --> 01:16:48,700
not new.

1658
01:16:48,700 --> 01:16:48,871
it works.

1659
01:16:48,871 --> 01:16:52,700
it's something whose time has come, it's too

1660
01:16:52,700 --> 01:16:55,945
important, uh, uh, to, to put profit over a public

1661
01:16:55,945 --> 01:16:56,345
safety.

1662
01:16:56,345 --> 01:17:01,500
and I just want to say on a personal note that, um,

1663
01:17:01,500 --> 01:17:04,587
in the park section of port washington, where I

1664
01:17:04,587 --> 01:17:07,723
lived during, uh, ida, three of my neighbors,

1665
01:17:07,723 --> 01:17:09,692
their basements completely flooded.

1666
01:17:09,692 --> 01:17:13,629
now, I'm bringing that up, not to say that, that,

1667
01:17:13,629 --> 01:17:18,367
you know, that's a direct result of a pse and g is

1668
01:17:18,367 --> 01:17:21,904
mismanagement or that they all lost power, but it

1669
01:17:21,904 --> 01:17:25,400
indicates the severity of the climate events that

1670
01:17:25,400 --> 01:17:28,577
were facing these, uh, black swans are a hundred

1671
01:17:28,577 --> 01:17:30,946
year events that you're talking about.

1672
01:17:30,946 --> 01:17:33,682
they are totally unprepared to deal with

1673
01:17:33,682 --> 01:17:34,830
that.

1674
01:17:34,830 --> 01:17:37,219
we need a totally different model that can,

1675
01:17:37,219 --> 01:17:40,356
that can handle events that cannot be foreseen

1676
01:17:40,356 --> 01:17:43,526
because every year in every community we see

1677
01:17:43,526 --> 01:17:47,429
these is, there are things we read in the papers.

1678
01:17:47,429 --> 01:17:50,199
these are the things people are experiencing

1679
01:17:50,199 --> 01:17:51,767
and people feel threatened.

1680
01:17:51,767 --> 01:17:54,503
this is not just about their rates.

1681
01:17:54,503 --> 01:17:57,673
it's about their lives, their security, even if

1682
01:17:57,673 --> 01:18:01,210
they don't drown in their basements, as other people

1683
01:18:01,210 --> 01:18:05,147
have done in the region, they're at risk of living

1684
01:18:05,147 --> 01:18:09,510
in homes that have mold and have other, uh, health

1685
01:18:09,510 --> 01:18:12,588
and safety results as, as a result of climate

1686
01:18:12,588 --> 01:18:15,758
events, living and occupying a home that has

1687
01:18:15,758 --> 01:18:18,894
gone without power for any substantial length of

1688
01:18:18,894 --> 01:18:20,863
time, also prevents those risks.

1689
01:18:20,863 --> 01:18:23,999
so these are things that are affecting people's

1690
01:18:23,999 --> 01:18:25,568
safety, security, and lives.

1691
01:18:25,568 --> 01:18:30,306
and I just want to leave it at that because I think

1692
01:18:30,306 --> 01:18:33,420
that the personal element is very important.

1693
01:18:33,420 --> 01:18:36,579
you have safety of people and their livelihood in

1694
01:18:36,579 --> 01:18:37,379
your hands.

1695
01:18:37,379 --> 01:18:39,348
please make the responsible decisions.

1696
01:18:39,348 --> 01:18:40,516
thank you.

1697
01:18:40,516 --> 01:18:41,283
thank you.

1698
01:18:41,283 --> 01:18:45,220
call, uh, next up will be jeremy joseph followed by

1699
01:18:45,220 --> 01:18:48,757
jennifer green and then amber ruth her, uh, again,

1700
01:18:48,757 --> 01:18:53,950
a reminder, if you are on and would like to comment,

1701
01:18:53,950 --> 01:18:57,320
you do need to raise your hand to do so.

1702
01:18:57,320 --> 01:18:59,768
jeremy you're being brought in now.

1703
01:18:59,768 --> 01:19:03,706
uh, so I guess my guiding principle for this is

1704
01:19:03,706 --> 01:19:04,506
pretty simple.

1705
01:19:04,506 --> 01:19:08,430
uh, utilities are a service to the public and

1706
01:19:08,430 --> 01:19:09,979
they should be publicly owned.

1707
01:19:09,979 --> 01:19:12,748
uh, in contrast investors in private corporations

1708
01:19:12,748 --> 01:19:15,884
like pseg have one motive it's making profit.

1709
01:19:15,884 --> 01:19:19,210
uh, you cannot provide an essential service to

1710
01:19:19,210 --> 01:19:21,790
people while operating under a profit motive.

1711
01:19:21,790 --> 01:19:23,759
these things are fundamentally opposed.

1712
01:19:23,759 --> 01:19:26,895
uh, a public utility should be accountable for

1713
01:19:26,895 --> 01:19:30,432
whether it is accountable to the people it serves.

1714
01:19:30,432 --> 01:19:33,202
uh, whereas a privately operated utility only

1715
01:19:33,202 --> 01:19:34,770
answers to its shareholders.

1716
01:19:34,770 --> 01:19:37,506
uh, if pseg were completely competent in

1717
01:19:37,506 --> 01:19:39,875
its current role, uh, hypothetically speaking,

1718
01:19:39,875 --> 01:19:42,611
they would still fundamentally not be able

1719
01:19:42,611 --> 01:19:45,381
to serve the needs of our communities.

1720
01:19:45,381 --> 01:19:49,318
uh, one of the greatest needs, if not the greatest

1721
01:19:49,318 --> 01:19:53,222
is to transform our energy system into one that is

1722
01:19:53,222 --> 01:19:54,230
environmentally sustainable.

1723
01:19:54,230 --> 01:19:57,559
uh, no one should trust a private corporation to

1724
01:19:57,559 --> 01:19:59,528
drive these critical changes.

1725
01:19:59,528 --> 01:20:02,665
they're only interested in these changes as long.

1726
01:20:02,665 --> 01:20:05,434
it is, it is profitable for them.

1727
01:20:05,434 --> 01:20:08,570
uh, I'm not willing to leave our environmental

1728
01:20:08,570 --> 01:20:10,939
fate in the hands of shareholders.

1729
01:20:10,939 --> 01:20:14,843
um, now as it stands, uh, pseg has not shown

1730
01:20:14,843 --> 01:20:17,212
themselves to be a competent partner.

1731
01:20:17,212 --> 01:20:21,150
they have a long history that falls well short of

1732
01:20:21,150 --> 01:20:24,286
our expectations, and they have not even provided

1733
01:20:24,286 --> 01:20:26,655
adequate service under a current agreements.

1734
01:20:26,655 --> 01:20:30,192
so why are we extending more grace to a

1735
01:20:30,192 --> 01:20:32,561
relationship that shouldn't exist in the

1736
01:20:32,561 --> 01:20:33,329
first place?

1737
01:20:33,329 --> 01:20:37,666
um, so I know tonight and even over the however many

1738
01:20:37,666 --> 01:20:40,402
months, this process has gone on that.

1739
01:20:40,402 --> 01:20:43,172
you've heard from private citizens, from advocacy

1740
01:20:43,172 --> 01:20:45,140
groups, even from politicians like

1741
01:20:45,140 --> 01:20:47,760
legislator fleming tonight, who is

1742
01:20:47,760 --> 01:20:50,245
extensively very connected to this sort of issue.

1743
01:20:50,245 --> 01:20:52,981
um, and if overwhelmingly, oppose, continuing this

1744
01:20:52,981 --> 01:20:56,118
relationship with pseg, the only people I've heard

1745
01:20:56,118 --> 01:20:59,655
speaking in favor of this contract are those who

1746
01:20:59,655 --> 01:21:02,424
directly benefits from this con, this, this

1747
01:21:02,424 --> 01:21:05,561
relationship rather, uh, I don't really see any

1748
01:21:05,561 --> 01:21:07,930
ambiguity and these discussions, uh, all

1749
01:21:07,930 --> 01:21:10,666
community stakeholders would benefit from a full

1750
01:21:10,666 --> 01:21:13,350
month municipalization of our power grid.

1751
01:21:13,350 --> 01:21:16,171
and this relationship with p seg should end.

1752
01:21:16,171 --> 01:21:17,372
thank you.

1753
01:21:17,372 --> 01:21:18,540
thank you, jeremy.

1754
01:21:18,540 --> 01:21:21,677
uh, jennifer green, then amber ruther and then

1755
01:21:21,677 --> 01:21:22,478
billy roberto.

1756
01:21:22,478 --> 01:21:26,140
and I would remind everyone, if you do have

1757
01:21:26,140 --> 01:21:29,151
an interest in speaking tonight, raise your hand.

1758
01:21:29,151 --> 01:21:33,880
there's a button on the bottom of the screen on

1759
01:21:33,880 --> 01:21:33,489
zoom.

1760
01:21:33,489 --> 01:21:37,250
somebody had suggested we point that out in case

1761
01:21:37,250 --> 01:21:38,594
there was some confusion.

1762
01:21:38,594 --> 01:21:41,730
so jennifer, we're bringing you in now.

1763
01:21:41,730 --> 01:21:42,531
thanks soundcheck.

1764
01:21:42,531 --> 01:21:44,990
can I be heard?

1765
01:21:44,990 --> 01:21:45,667
we can hear you.

1766
01:21:45,667 --> 01:21:46,680
great.

1767
01:21:46,680 --> 01:21:49,605
hello, and thank you all for the opportunity to

1768
01:21:49,605 --> 01:21:49,972
speak.

1769
01:21:49,972 --> 01:21:51,573
turn on my camera.

1770
01:21:51,573 --> 01:21:52,741
there we go.

1771
01:21:52,741 --> 01:21:57,446
this is my first time at a public hearing and I will

1772
01:21:57,446 --> 01:21:58,247
be brief.

1773
01:21:58,247 --> 01:22:01,383
I am a longtime rate payer in bellport.

1774
01:22:01,383 --> 01:22:04,520
I'm also a member of suffolk county, democratic

1775
01:22:04,520 --> 01:22:08,560
socialists of america, and I'm the daughter of an

1776
01:22:08,560 --> 01:22:10,425
energy economist who studied utilities among

1777
01:22:10,425 --> 01:22:11,226
other things.

1778
01:22:11,226 --> 01:22:15,531
and if he were alive today, I know he'd be here

1779
01:22:15,531 --> 01:22:17,990
speaking to you too.

1780
01:22:17,990 --> 01:22:21,837
so I'm here tonight to add my voice to the many who

1781
01:22:21,837 --> 01:22:24,573
are calling for full municipalization of long

1782
01:22:24,573 --> 01:22:26,141
island's power third-party management.

1783
01:22:26,141 --> 01:22:28,911
isn't what we need publicly owned utilities,

1784
01:22:28,911 --> 01:22:30,479
better on numerous counts.

1785
01:22:30,479 --> 01:22:34,160
and when I learned that the former governor may

1786
01:22:34,160 --> 01:22:35,984
have exerted undue influence undemocratic

1787
01:22:35,984 --> 01:22:36,385
interference.

1788
01:22:36,385 --> 01:22:37,553
I was disturbed.

1789
01:22:37,553 --> 01:22:38,720
we deserve better.

1790
01:22:38,720 --> 01:22:43,580
I, and so many others don't want to see you vote

1791
01:22:43,580 --> 01:22:45,270
in favor of this contract.

1792
01:22:45,270 --> 01:22:48,564
we want life, but to commit to public power.

1793
01:22:48,564 --> 01:22:49,731
thank you.

1794
01:22:49,731 --> 01:22:53,268
thank you, jennifer and birther will be next and

1795
01:22:53,268 --> 01:22:56,380
then followed by billy rubber king.

1796
01:22:56,380 --> 01:22:59,575
hello, my name is andrew ruther and I'm with

1797
01:22:59,575 --> 01:23:03,111
alliance for a green economy, which is a member

1798
01:23:03,111 --> 01:23:06,248
of the statewide public power in new york

1799
01:23:06,248 --> 01:23:09,785
coalition, as well as an intervener in utility rate

1800
01:23:09,785 --> 01:23:11,353
cases around the state.

1801
01:23:11,353 --> 01:23:16,910
um, and I'm here to ask for an end to like this

1802
01:23:16,910 --> 01:23:19,228
contract with pcyc in favor of fully public

1803
01:23:19,228 --> 01:23:21,196
power that is democratically controlled

1804
01:23:21,196 --> 01:23:21,964
for now.

1805
01:23:21,964 --> 01:23:25,901
I urge the wipe of board to delay this vote,

1806
01:23:25,901 --> 01:23:29,370
suspend this process and fully commit to developing

1807
01:23:29,370 --> 01:23:31,600
a roadmap for public power.

1808
01:23:31,600 --> 01:23:34,543
we will also be working on developing legislation to

1809
01:23:34,543 --> 01:23:37,312
implement public power with the real logic

1810
01:23:37,312 --> 01:23:39,648
reimagine lipid coalition, since legislation is

1811
01:23:39,648 --> 01:23:42,818
clearly needed at this point, this new contract

1812
01:23:42,818 --> 01:23:46,355
with p sec, well making minor reforms does nothing

1813
01:23:46,355 --> 01:23:50,259
to address the root of the issue with their poor

1814
01:23:50,259 --> 01:23:52,628
performance, that their for-profit monopoly, who

1815
01:23:52,628 --> 01:23:55,397
profit for providing an essential service because

1816
01:23:55,397 --> 01:23:59,301
of this, no matter how much we try to micromanage

1817
01:23:59,301 --> 01:24:01,270
them with complex incentives, which

1818
01:24:01,270 --> 01:24:04,806
essentially amounts to doing their job for them.

1819
01:24:04,806 --> 01:24:07,976
and no matter how exhaustively we spell out

1820
01:24:07,976 --> 01:24:10,712
their responsibilities in a contract, they will

1821
01:24:10,712 --> 01:24:13,482
always have an incentive to prioritize their

1822
01:24:13,482 --> 01:24:16,618
profits over workers, rate payers in the environment.

1823
01:24:16,618 --> 01:24:20,155
and they will always have an incentive to find

1824
01:24:20,155 --> 01:24:23,292
loopholes to lie and misreport metrics to do

1825
01:24:23,292 --> 01:24:27,229
the bare minimum in terms of service, to defer basic

1826
01:24:27,229 --> 01:24:30,365
grid maintenance and to operate with a skeleton

1827
01:24:30,365 --> 01:24:33,902
crew of workers who are then unable to restore

1828
01:24:33,902 --> 01:24:35,871
power quickly during climate disasters.

1829
01:24:35,871 --> 01:24:39,408
so just tropical storm as aas, and then intervener

1830
01:24:39,408 --> 01:24:42,177
and utility rate cases around new york.

1831
01:24:42,177 --> 01:24:45,714
and I've seen the ways in which complex performance

1832
01:24:45,714 --> 01:24:48,450
metrics such as earnings adjustment mechanisms have

1833
01:24:48,450 --> 01:24:51,219
largely failed to address performance issues and

1834
01:24:51,219 --> 01:24:55,524
have only led to increased rates for rate pairs at a

1835
01:24:55,524 --> 01:24:59,610
time when over a million new yorkers already can't

1836
01:24:59,610 --> 01:25:00,629
afford their utility bills.

1837
01:25:00,629 --> 01:25:03,398
there's also no true way to hold.

1838
01:25:03,398 --> 01:25:06,134
[inaudible] accountable to the people they asked

1839
01:25:06,134 --> 01:25:07,336
sensibly serve.

1840
01:25:07,336 --> 01:25:10,872
while the dps may find them for more poor

1841
01:25:10,872 --> 01:25:13,608
performance, they're unable to find them an

1842
01:25:13,608 --> 01:25:16,378
amount that would severely impact share holder

1843
01:25:16,378 --> 01:25:19,114
profits, because then psa's cost of capital

1844
01:25:19,114 --> 01:25:23,510
would go up harming rate payers, and they may even

1845
01:25:23,510 --> 01:25:26,989
become unable to raise the capital, but they need to

1846
01:25:26,989 --> 01:25:28,957
function a basic human need.

1847
01:25:28,957 --> 01:25:32,861
that's a national monopoly should never be left up to

1848
01:25:32,861 --> 01:25:36,310
a for-profit and long islanders have been harmed

1849
01:25:36,310 --> 01:25:38,767
by the impacts of failed public private

1850
01:25:38,767 --> 01:25:40,736
partnerships for far too long.

1851
01:25:40,736 --> 01:25:44,272
we've seen the worst case scenario of what can

1852
01:25:44,272 --> 01:25:47,809
happen in places like texas or the energy people

1853
01:25:47,809 --> 01:25:51,747
need to survive is treated as a commodity to profit

1854
01:25:51,747 --> 01:25:54,483
from instead of as a human, right.

1855
01:25:54,483 --> 01:25:58,200
there's a reason that p sag has poor risk

1856
01:25:58,200 --> 01:25:58,420
management.

1857
01:25:58,420 --> 01:26:01,957
it's because they know the biggest risks of their

1858
01:26:01,957 --> 01:26:02,758
utility operations.

1859
01:26:02,758 --> 01:26:05,894
the risks of climate change, the risks of

1860
01:26:05,894 --> 01:26:09,431
safety issues for workers and the risks of blackouts

1861
01:26:09,431 --> 01:26:13,368
that will force people to miss work through his food

1862
01:26:13,368 --> 01:26:16,905
and medication, or even freeze to death will fall

1863
01:26:16,905 --> 01:26:20,420
on the backs of long islanders, not on

1864
01:26:20,420 --> 01:26:22,411
shareholders in any private monopoly, risks

1865
01:26:22,411 --> 01:26:25,147
and costs are socialized and profits are

1866
01:26:25,147 --> 01:26:25,947
privatized.

1867
01:26:25,947 --> 01:26:29,484
peace is the only utility in the country that

1868
01:26:29,484 --> 01:26:32,220
operates with a public private partnership model.

1869
01:26:32,220 --> 01:26:34,589
and there's a reason for that.

1870
01:26:34,589 --> 01:26:38,126
it doesn't work in the words of assembly member,

1871
01:26:38,126 --> 01:26:38,927
doug smith.

1872
01:26:38,927 --> 01:26:41,663
we have a frankenstein monster of utilities.

1873
01:26:41,663 --> 01:26:44,320
it's the worst of both worlds.

1874
01:26:44,320 --> 01:26:47,969
life is unaccountable to the people and we have the

1875
01:26:47,969 --> 01:26:51,106
monopoly of peace egg, which under the current

1876
01:26:51,106 --> 01:26:54,242
structure is guaranteed to make a profit while

1877
01:26:54,242 --> 01:26:55,811
utilizing lipos nonprofit status.

1878
01:26:55,811 --> 01:26:58,180
it's reprehensible that the options analysis,

1879
01:26:58,180 --> 01:27:01,717
which clearly showed that a fully public system was

1880
01:27:01,717 --> 01:27:06,540
by far the best option for rate payers and that the

1881
01:27:06,540 --> 01:27:08,790
public hearings were around 90% of testimony

1882
01:27:08,790 --> 01:27:11,159
was in favor of public power.

1883
01:27:11,159 --> 01:27:14,296
it was essentially ignored and overruled by a

1884
01:27:14,296 --> 01:27:17,320
backroom deal made by disgraced former governor

1885
01:27:17,320 --> 01:27:17,833
andrew cuomo.

1886
01:27:17,833 --> 01:27:22,170
we believe the onus is now on governor hoco to steer

1887
01:27:22,170 --> 01:27:24,506
a chorus back toward public power.

1888
01:27:24,506 --> 01:27:26,875
she must reject your predecessor.

1889
01:27:26,875 --> 01:27:30,412
so's failed vision and embrace a proven model for

1890
01:27:30,412 --> 01:27:33,148
ensuring long island has reliable, affordable, and

1891
01:27:33,148 --> 01:27:33,949
renewable power.

1892
01:27:33,949 --> 01:27:37,486
why should long island rate pairs be forced to

1893
01:27:37,486 --> 01:27:41,423
pay 65 to $75 million more per year for public

1894
01:27:41,423 --> 01:27:43,792
private partnership that continually fails them?

1895
01:27:43,792 --> 01:27:47,696
u s the u s already has 2000 fully public

1896
01:27:47,696 --> 01:27:50,866
utilities are electric co-ops and we know they

1897
01:27:50,866 --> 01:27:51,233
work.

1898
01:27:51,233 --> 01:27:55,170
we don't need to guess on average, they're 13% more

1899
01:27:55,170 --> 01:27:58,306
affordable and have passed the average direct outage

1900
01:27:58,306 --> 01:28:00,275
duration times of private utilities.

1901
01:28:00,275 --> 01:28:03,445
public utilities also have more freedom to innovate.

1902
01:28:03,445 --> 01:28:05,781
many have expanded, renewable energy and

1903
01:28:05,781 --> 01:28:08,550
electric heat pumps more quickly than private

1904
01:28:08,550 --> 01:28:08,950
utilities.

1905
01:28:08,950 --> 01:28:12,870
and chattanooga's electric power board was the first

1906
01:28:12,870 --> 01:28:15,624
to invest in fiber optics, laying the groundwork for

1907
01:28:15,624 --> 01:28:16,391
world-class grid.

1908
01:28:16,391 --> 01:28:20,328
and that has reduced power outages by 60% and save

1909
01:28:20,328 --> 01:28:23,980
this city close to $60 million annually.

1910
01:28:23,980 --> 01:28:27,402
we know public ownership in and of itself is not a

1911
01:28:27,402 --> 01:28:28,203
panacea.

1912
01:28:28,203 --> 01:28:30,572
we also need robust democratic governance

1913
01:28:30,572 --> 01:28:33,708
mechanisms to ensure that the interest of workers

1914
01:28:33,708 --> 01:28:36,444
rate payers reliability and the environment are

1915
01:28:36,444 --> 01:28:36,845
balanced.

1916
01:28:36,845 --> 01:28:40,782
that's why I also support the proposal to add an

1917
01:28:40,782 --> 01:28:43,919
observatory and an elected light lipid board that

1918
01:28:43,919 --> 01:28:45,487
would foster public engagement.

1919
01:28:45,487 --> 01:28:49,240
people that are tired of spending hours at sham

1920
01:28:49,240 --> 01:28:52,561
public hearings, where they have no real voice or

1921
01:28:52,561 --> 01:28:56,498
influence this board has a choice to make vote in

1922
01:28:56,498 --> 01:29:00,350
favor of the contract and betrayed like this rate

1923
01:29:00,350 --> 01:29:03,972
pairs or cut ties with pcyc and commit to fully

1924
01:29:03,972 --> 01:29:05,941
public power on long islands.

1925
01:29:05,941 --> 01:29:08,677
I urge you to do the ladder.

1926
01:29:08,677 --> 01:29:09,878
thank you.

1927
01:29:09,878 --> 01:29:11,460
thank you, amber.

1928
01:29:11,460 --> 01:29:13,415
uh, next step is billy roberto.

1929
01:29:13,415 --> 01:29:16,551
uh, at this point, following billy, uh, there

1930
01:29:16,551 --> 01:29:20,880
are no other members of the public than currently

1931
01:29:20,880 --> 01:29:21,656
have their hands raised.

1932
01:29:21,656 --> 01:29:25,193
so I would encourage anyone that is here that

1933
01:29:25,193 --> 01:29:29,130
has not yet spoken that would like to please raise

1934
01:29:29,130 --> 01:29:29,931
your hand.

1935
01:29:29,931 --> 01:29:33,835
now we're going to bring billy in right now.

1936
01:29:33,835 --> 01:29:34,636
good evening.

1937
01:29:34,636 --> 01:29:36,605
my name is billy [inaudible].

1938
01:29:36,605 --> 01:29:40,909
I'm a member of mothers out front and have been a

1939
01:29:40,909 --> 01:29:43,678
homeowner in huntington station for 25 years.

1940
01:29:43,678 --> 01:29:47,616
I have lived through life, a key keyspan like the

1941
01:29:47,616 --> 01:29:49,584
national grid and lipid pc.

1942
01:29:49,584 --> 01:29:53,488
and I can tell you the public private model does

1943
01:29:53,488 --> 01:29:54,289
not work.

1944
01:29:54,289 --> 01:29:58,226
how many times does the model have to fail before

1945
01:29:58,226 --> 01:30:01,763
we rejected in favor of a fully public liper?

1946
01:30:01,763 --> 01:30:04,900
yes, this contract is better than the previous

1947
01:30:04,900 --> 01:30:08,436
one, but a less flawed contract cannot fix a

1948
01:30:08,436 --> 01:30:09,604
totally flawed model.

1949
01:30:09,604 --> 01:30:12,774
I will not belabor what has gone wrong.

1950
01:30:12,774 --> 01:30:13,141
others.

1951
01:30:13,141 --> 01:30:14,743
I've already done that.

1952
01:30:14,743 --> 01:30:19,447
what I will do is share my vision of what we need

1953
01:30:19,447 --> 01:30:23,385
from an electric utility and what life it can be.

1954
01:30:23,385 --> 01:30:28,890
if the cheapest one is the one we don't use, then the

1955
01:30:28,890 --> 01:30:30,580
cheapest private partner is none.

1956
01:30:30,580 --> 01:30:33,995
libre can do better as a municipal utility, but how

1957
01:30:33,995 --> 01:30:35,964
we redesign lipase key.

1958
01:30:35,964 --> 01:30:39,501
that is why I'm part of the re-imagined life.

1959
01:30:39,501 --> 01:30:40,268
a coalition.

1960
01:30:40,268 --> 01:30:44,205
we are calling on governor hochul to support us in

1961
01:30:44,205 --> 01:30:47,342
pursuing a path to an innovative, fully public

1962
01:30:47,342 --> 01:30:48,143
utility model.

1963
01:30:48,143 --> 01:30:50,512
the light by electric rate payers.

1964
01:30:50,512 --> 01:30:53,648
I believe that with the legislation being prepared

1965
01:30:53,648 --> 01:30:56,170
with the help of re-imagined lipid

1966
01:30:56,170 --> 01:30:59,554
coalition, we can have a light, but that will

1967
01:30:59,554 --> 01:31:01,890
become all we needed to be.

1968
01:31:01,890 --> 01:31:05,600
we need a customer focused utility that is

1969
01:31:05,600 --> 01:31:07,280
accountable, reliable, transparent, and equitable

1970
01:31:07,280 --> 01:31:10,165
with more public input and better leadership in

1971
01:31:10,165 --> 01:31:11,333
decarbonizing our buildings.

1972
01:31:11,333 --> 01:31:15,270
we need a light bulb that answers to its customers.

1973
01:31:15,270 --> 01:31:18,600
we need leadership focused on moving aggressively

1974
01:31:18,600 --> 01:31:19,974
towards electric electrification and the

1975
01:31:19,974 --> 01:31:21,543
greening of our grid.

1976
01:31:21,543 --> 01:31:23,511
our future lies in electrification.

1977
01:31:23,511 --> 01:31:27,449
and for that, it needs to be reliable and renewable.

1978
01:31:27,449 --> 01:31:31,386
we need to revise the rate structure and make it

1979
01:31:31,386 --> 01:31:32,187
totally transparent.

1980
01:31:32,187 --> 01:31:35,724
as it stands now, delivery and service charges are

1981
01:31:35,724 --> 01:31:39,260
skewed lower for fossil fuel users and higher for

1982
01:31:39,260 --> 01:31:40,829
all electric homes.

1983
01:31:40,829 --> 01:31:43,965
as the state moves into electrifying all business,

1984
01:31:43,965 --> 01:31:47,502
all buildings, we must have a rate structure that

1985
01:31:47,502 --> 01:31:50,638
shortages customers for what it actually costs to

1986
01:31:50,638 --> 01:31:51,439
deliver service.

1987
01:31:51,439 --> 01:31:55,377
this should be the same for both me and my

1988
01:31:55,377 --> 01:31:59,280
neighbors, but I pay more because I heat with an

1989
01:31:59,280 --> 01:32:02,500
electric heat pump volume metric consumption costs

1990
01:32:02,500 --> 01:32:05,186
can be recovered via charge, separate from the

1991
01:32:05,186 --> 01:32:05,987
delivery charge.

1992
01:32:05,987 --> 01:32:09,924
your current rate plan for 2022 creates a quote solar

1993
01:32:09,924 --> 01:32:11,860
tax for new solar adopters.

1994
01:32:11,860 --> 01:32:15,397
if instead, the basic service charge a per day

1995
01:32:15,397 --> 01:32:18,566
rate included all the costs associated with the

1996
01:32:18,566 --> 01:32:20,902
operation and maintenance of electric grid,

1997
01:32:20,902 --> 01:32:24,439
including the cost of debt service and the transition

1998
01:32:24,439 --> 01:32:28,376
to a new bubbles, but not the amount of kilowatt

1999
01:32:28,376 --> 01:32:29,177
hours consumed.

2000
01:32:29,177 --> 01:32:32,714
it would create a level playing field for all.

2001
01:32:32,714 --> 01:32:36,251
after all those with net metered solar systems like

2002
01:32:36,251 --> 01:32:40,555
me utilize the grid to and should pay for its upkeep,

2003
01:32:40,555 --> 01:32:44,920
as it is those who make this transition early,

2004
01:32:44,920 --> 01:32:47,262
like me are being penalized by the system

2005
01:32:47,262 --> 01:32:47,662
charges.

2006
01:32:47,662 --> 01:32:50,799
while those who remain on fossil fuels are

2007
01:32:50,799 --> 01:32:52,767
unintentionally incentivized to stay on

2008
01:32:52,767 --> 01:32:53,134
them.

2009
01:32:53,134 --> 01:32:56,304
this works against the goals of the climate

2010
01:32:56,304 --> 01:32:59,400
leadership and community protection act and light

2011
01:32:59,400 --> 01:33:02,177
bulb because the leica will benefit from the

2012
01:33:02,177 --> 01:33:04,145
increased consumption as electrification advances.

2013
01:33:04,145 --> 01:33:08,820
I trust that as we move into the future, both

2014
01:33:08,820 --> 01:33:11,219
municipalization and a new rate structure will be

2015
01:33:11,219 --> 01:33:13,988
instituted for the betterment of our children

2016
01:33:13,988 --> 01:33:15,156
and their children.

2017
01:33:15,156 --> 01:33:16,357
thank you.

2018
01:33:16,357 --> 01:33:17,525
thank you, billy.

2019
01:33:17,525 --> 01:33:21,620
uh, we did have one additional hand raised a

2020
01:33:21,620 --> 01:33:21,830
christian array.

2021
01:33:21,830 --> 01:33:25,400
we were going to bring in right now.

2022
01:33:25,400 --> 01:33:26,568
here we go.

2023
01:33:26,568 --> 01:33:27,735
hi, my check.

2024
01:33:27,735 --> 01:33:28,937
cool, good evening.

2025
01:33:28,937 --> 01:33:33,241
my name is krishna house and I am the co-chair of

2026
01:33:33,241 --> 01:33:34,420
suffolk county.

2027
01:33:34,420 --> 01:33:37,579
dss looked so a working group, suffolk county dsa

2028
01:33:37,579 --> 01:33:41,516
is a full partner in the public power, new york

2029
01:33:41,516 --> 01:33:43,852
coalition and to re-imagine the lipid

2030
01:33:43,852 --> 01:33:46,621
campaign, the lipid board members zoned findings

2031
01:33:46,621 --> 01:33:49,357
after tropical storm [inaudible] are enough to

2032
01:33:49,357 --> 01:33:51,726
disqualify pisa from handling our electric

2033
01:33:51,726 --> 01:33:52,126
grid.

2034
01:33:52,126 --> 01:33:56,300
yet the lipid board is poised to hand it right

2035
01:33:56,300 --> 01:34:00,368
back to the company that failed to take care of it

2036
01:34:00,368 --> 01:34:00,768
further.

2037
01:34:00,768 --> 01:34:04,305
the board determined that repairs can save nearly a

2038
01:34:04,305 --> 01:34:06,674
billion dollars over the next decade.

2039
01:34:06,674 --> 01:34:09,811
if it terminated the contract with pcyc, they

2040
01:34:09,811 --> 01:34:12,147
therefore have the responsibility to explain

2041
01:34:12,147 --> 01:34:15,717
why that money will be going to management fees

2042
01:34:15,717 --> 01:34:17,652
and not improving our infrastructure.

2043
01:34:17,652 --> 01:34:21,589
there are forms list open the terms of the contract

2044
01:34:21,589 --> 01:34:25,126
are positive, but we have no confidence that they

2045
01:34:25,126 --> 01:34:27,950
will be fully implemented.

2046
01:34:27,950 --> 01:34:30,231
pcyc has continued to lie and slow roll.

2047
01:34:30,231 --> 01:34:33,401
its promised improvements after sies and we are

2048
01:34:33,401 --> 01:34:35,370
still left in the lurch.

2049
01:34:35,370 --> 01:34:39,274
tonight is the only say we like the repairs we'll

2050
01:34:39,274 --> 01:34:40,875
have in the decision.

2051
01:34:40,875 --> 01:34:44,412
when we spoke last summer, we were nearly unanimous

2052
01:34:44,412 --> 01:34:46,748
and asking them like, [inaudible] full

2053
01:34:46,748 --> 01:34:47,148
municipalization.

2054
01:34:47,148 --> 01:34:50,685
yet you members of the light bulb board ignored

2055
01:34:50,685 --> 01:34:51,850
us.

2056
01:34:51,850 --> 01:34:53,821
when governor cuomo called you listen officially,

2057
01:34:53,821 --> 01:34:56,191
cuomo's no longer in charge yet.

2058
01:34:56,191 --> 01:34:59,327
this contract has his fingerprints all over it.

2059
01:34:59,327 --> 01:35:03,264
now with less than a month until your terms expire,

2060
01:35:03,264 --> 01:35:05,633
you're carrying out the disgrace governors

2061
01:35:05,633 --> 01:35:07,201
commands without second thought.

2062
01:35:07,201 --> 01:35:09,938
fortunately, when you municipalize, we will end

2063
01:35:09,938 --> 01:35:13,474
the days of points of boards that ignore to

2064
01:35:13,474 --> 01:35:13,875
people.

2065
01:35:13,875 --> 01:35:17,412
and we will democratize like was born then and

2066
01:35:17,412 --> 01:35:20,949
will be cleared that if anyone wants to take

2067
01:35:20,949 --> 01:35:24,485
leadership of our electric grid, they will have to

2068
01:35:24,485 --> 01:35:27,255
listen to liberate pairs, not political leaders.

2069
01:35:27,255 --> 01:35:28,423
thank you.

2070
01:35:28,423 --> 01:35:29,591
thank you, christian.

2071
01:35:29,591 --> 01:35:29,991
okay.

2072
01:35:29,991 --> 01:35:34,729
this time we have no one else lined up in the queue

2073
01:35:34,729 --> 01:35:37,465
to speak one last opportunity for anyone

2074
01:35:37,465 --> 01:35:41,200
that may have missed the raise hand function in

2075
01:35:41,200 --> 01:35:41,402
zoom.

2076
01:35:41,402 --> 01:35:41,803
okay.

2077
01:35:41,803 --> 01:35:46,507
being none on tom, I will turn it back over to you

2078
01:35:46,507 --> 01:35:47,675
to close.

2079
01:35:47,675 --> 01:35:50,845
I just want to thank everybody for spending

2080
01:35:50,845 --> 01:35:54,749
your evening or a good portion of it with us

2081
01:35:54,749 --> 01:35:55,950
talking about electricity.

2082
01:35:55,950 --> 01:35:59,887
as I started off with york, my kind of crowd

2083
01:35:59,887 --> 01:36:03,424
that you want to spend your evening talking about

2084
01:36:03,424 --> 01:36:03,791
electric.

2085
01:36:03,791 --> 01:36:08,129
uh, when I go home, my wife doesn't have the same

2086
01:36:08,129 --> 01:36:10,865
level of interest that I get here.

2087
01:36:10,865 --> 01:36:12,834
so I really appreciate it.

2088
01:36:12,834 --> 01:36:16,371
uh, and thank you for contributing to our public

2089
01:36:16,371 --> 01:36:16,771
dialogue.

2090
01:36:16,771 --> 01:36:19,907
uh, we will be, uh, conveying this material,

2091
01:36:19,907 --> 01:36:21,509
uh, on our website.

2092
01:36:21,509 --> 01:36:24,646
we will also be accepting additional public comment

2093
01:36:24,646 --> 01:36:27,782
at our december 15th meeting and in writing.

2094
01:36:27,782 --> 01:36:31,319
so if you're no anyone that wants to contribute

2095
01:36:31,319 --> 01:36:34,880
that wasn't able to make it tonight.

2096
01:36:34,880 --> 01:36:37,625
uh, we have a couple more opportunities, but with

2097
01:36:37,625 --> 01:36:39,961
that really appreciate everybody coming out.

2098
01:36:39,961 --> 01:36:42,330
your thoughts are important, especially when

2099
01:36:42,330 --> 01:36:45,867
I acknowledge many of you that have been, uh,

2100
01:36:45,867 --> 01:36:47,835
consistently interested reading reports, uh,

2101
01:36:47,835 --> 01:36:50,571
showing up at board meetings, contributing to

2102
01:36:50,571 --> 01:36:54,509
the public dialogue for a very long period of time.

2103
01:36:54,509 --> 01:36:56,770
and you are heard.

2104
01:36:56,770 --> 01:36:58,846
so with that, thank you very much.

2105
01:36:58,846 --> 01:37:02,000
and I look forward to continuing our conversation.