1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:05,279 Okay, I'd like to call this regular board of public affairs meeting to order 2 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:09,240 of August 18th. Please stand for the Lord's prayer and pledge of allegiance. 3 00:00:09,440 --> 00:00:17,880 » Our Father, Lord in heaven, be thy name, thy kingdom, thasses 4 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:30,560 as we forgive those who trespass against us. Lead us not into temptation, but 5 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:35,480 deliver us from evil. and the kingdom, power, and glory forever. Amen. 6 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:43,920 » Pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the 7 00:00:40,559 --> 00:00:50,840 republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and 8 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:50,840 justice for all. 9 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:54,960 » Roll call, please. >> Peterson, 10 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:56,320 » present. >> Michael Sullivan, 11 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:58,480 » here. >> Stanley Zack, 12 00:00:57,280 --> 00:01:02,640 » here. Darren Biggs >> here. 13 00:00:59,359 --> 00:01:06,320 » Slarski present. Chris Gilnik and Matt Reese 14 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:08,720 » here. I'll make a motion we excuse Chris Gnick. 15 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:13,439 » Okay. >> All in favor? 16 00:01:10,159 --> 00:01:16,479 » I opposed. Motion passed. Approval and correction of the minutes. Uh did 17 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:20,159 everybody get a chance to review the minutes for June 16th? 18 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:24,400 » I'll make a motion to approve. >> Second. 19 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:29,759 » All in favor? I opposed. Motion passed. I'll make a motion we accept the meds 20 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:33,200 for July 7th. Second. All in favor? I >> opposed. Motion pass. Cindy, do we have 21 00:01:32,320 --> 00:01:38,306 any correspondence? >> No. Okay. Any public comments? 22 00:01:36,286 --> 00:01:38,306 [clears throat] 23 00:01:38,479 --> 00:01:45,680 Any public comments? Okay. Seeing none, on to new business. The first item is a 24 00:01:44,159 --> 00:01:52,159 master service agreement for professional services by Bernandez for a 25 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:56,960 water rate study update for the BPA. Well, these since we just got these, I 26 00:01:54,880 --> 00:02:05,399 think we should hold them at least. >> Yeah. Till I the first I saw this. So, 27 00:02:00,159 --> 00:02:05,399 okay. If we can move actually the uh 28 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:13,040 actually at least the first four then the tank resolution. I still have to 29 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:18,239 talk about that some. So, >> okay. You okay with that? 30 00:02:15,920 --> 00:02:23,440 » Okay. We'll just make a motion to >> We have to make a motion to table this 31 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:27,599 table. Um, it's on the agenda, so you can make a motion to table it. Okay, 32 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:31,599 I'll make a motion we table item 1 through 4. Is that okay with you guys? 33 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:36,959 » Yes, I'll second that. >> Second. All in favor? 34 00:02:32,959 --> 00:02:40,640 » I posted. Motion passed. Okay. Item number five, a resolution 35 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:43,920 recommending the village council authorize the village of Lordstown to 36 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:50,239 execute an agreement with utility service co. industry for maintenance and 37 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:59,440 tank asset management for the village of Lordstown own water storage tank 38 00:02:55,920 --> 00:03:01,440 to approve it. >> Do you think you want to move ahead with 39 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:05,760 this? >> Yeah. 40 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:08,560 I don't think we got a choice. >> Yeah. This is the gentleman that came in 41 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:14,239 and gave the presentation. >> Yeah. Was it June 16th Aaron? 42 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:20,720 I think that the resolution or his agreement said January 1st. 43 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:25,920 » Did I miss Am I wrong? >> It's effective January 1st. 44 00:03:22,640 --> 00:03:29,040 » I I Yeah, let me check the contract. I think she's right though. I'm pretty 45 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:31,920 sure it said cuz I remember I do remember him saying like this has to be 46 00:03:30,319 --> 00:03:38,159 done in August, but yet the contract date is January 1st is the way that it's 47 00:03:34,959 --> 00:03:42,480 drafted. Mhm. And I don't I don't know who requested 48 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:44,959 it, but number four under new business was for them to review. 49 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:49,599 » Yeah. >> For Dantis to review that. So, whoever 50 00:03:46,879 --> 00:03:52,560 requested that, that review has not been done or 51 00:03:51,519 --> 00:03:59,319 authorized yet. >> Okay. 52 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:59,319 » Do we need for Dantis to review it? 53 00:03:59,439 --> 00:04:04,799 » I I don't see why you wouldn't. >> Okay. 54 00:04:03,439 --> 00:04:07,439 Where are you? Where where are we referring to? 55 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:14,040 Number four. >> Number four. 56 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:14,040 » Oh, okay. 57 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:23,360 I see. Yeah. I mean, I could tell you this is 58 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:27,680 basically the same scope of work that was previously approved by the BPA with 59 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:32,280 with some additional changes under the master services agreement. But 60 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:37,840 yeah, Darren, if you're comfortable with it, Matt, if you're comfortable with it. 61 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:41,840 I don't think you need Bernandez to >> Yeah, I don't see it. It m It's the same 62 00:04:40,479 --> 00:04:44,560 agreement. We're just switching it from the 500,000 gallon to the 3 million 63 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:49,919 million. >> Yeah, we canled the 500,000 one because 64 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:54,720 it was surface. So, we saved ourselves some money until we got this up and 65 00:04:52,240 --> 00:05:00,080 going. Warranties are all running out. We need to get a agreement for the 66 00:04:57,520 --> 00:05:02,720 maintenance, the wash outs, any anything that needs it needs done with our new 67 00:05:01,919 --> 00:05:07,759 tank now. >> Okay. 68 00:05:04,639 --> 00:05:12,400 » But do we need to uh instead of putting number four on hold, should we just uh 69 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:16,880 remove it? >> I would say I don't see a reason for 70 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:20,440 them to redo it. I mean, Darren and Matt are okay with it. 71 00:05:21,919 --> 00:05:28,479 » You want a motion on that? >> Yeah. Originally when this was done 72 00:05:25,199 --> 00:05:34,160 before I was solicitor, I know my the former solicitor recommended doing a 73 00:05:30,639 --> 00:05:37,759 request for proposal and having and and having Verdantis review this 74 00:05:36,673 --> 00:05:42,320 [clears throat] before we entered into the initial master services agreement. 75 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:45,120 There are statutory exceptions that we don't need to do that. We don't need to 76 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:49,120 bid. We don't need to go to request for proposal. So it was kind of um 77 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:52,880 » So maybe they thought they had to review it. 78 00:05:50,639 --> 00:05:56,639 » That's how it was done last time. It's it's an either or under the Ohio Revised 79 00:05:54,880 --> 00:06:01,120 Code. We could do a request for proposal or we could negotiate directly for these 80 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:04,800 services like we did here. And in fact, even the first time I think in 2017, 81 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:08,160 there was a little bit of push back within the village. Why do a request for 82 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:11,440 proposals? Pretty much the only company that's going to really do this type of 83 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:16,400 work anyway. It's going to waste everyone's time. So, the thought was 84 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:20,800 based on some of my emails to you last month or and Darren as well, let's just 85 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:24,560 move forward. We don't have to by law do a request for proposal. So without the 86 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:27,680 request for proposal process, I don't know what Verdantis would be reviewing. 87 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:32,000 » Okay. >> So we need to go back and review number 88 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:36,000 four completely. >> Yeah. 89 00:06:33,840 --> 00:06:40,800 » So I'll make a motion. >> Yeah, that makes sense to me. So I guess 90 00:06:38,479 --> 00:06:43,520 I'll make a motion not to do the master service agreement. 91 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:45,759 » I'll second that. >> Second. All in favor? 92 00:06:45,039 --> 00:06:52,720 » I >> I don't quite understand. 93 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:57,440 We're not going to have a master agreement on the 94 00:06:54,560 --> 00:07:02,800 » No, all this was is redandis was going to review the contract. That's Yeah, 95 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:06,160 unless Darren unless there's something else that they would need to review like 96 00:07:04,319 --> 00:07:10,479 their this company's services or anything for maintaining the tanks. My 97 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:14,000 understanding is the originally when this was done they were just reviewing 98 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:17,199 the request for proposals and I think there was only one response anyway and 99 00:07:15,599 --> 00:07:20,000 making recommendations which we're not doing this. There's nothing I could 100 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:23,759 think of that that would that we would need them to review or uh any 101 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:28,560 maintenance problems or anything I have. I I don't go through our engineers 102 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:30,800 anyway with that. So I I I I can't think of anything where our engineers would be 103 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:32,960 needed. >> Okay. 104 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:36,160 » So >> it sounds like just a continuation of 105 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:38,800 the >> contract. Yes. 106 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:40,319 » They haven't really there's been a few other 107 00:07:39,039 --> 00:07:43,199 » Yeah. We're just adjusting the contract to a new tank. 108 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:47,039 » Exactly. >> So Okay. 109 00:07:44,639 --> 00:07:48,000 » So motion second. All in favor? All right. 110 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:55,280 » I >> I opposed. Motion passed. Okay. 111 00:07:53,039 --> 00:07:59,120 So, number five. Are you okay with moving forward with that? Send that to 112 00:07:57,280 --> 00:08:04,400 council. Yes. I'll make a motion we move the 113 00:08:01,199 --> 00:08:09,599 resolution for the u utility service company for the asset 114 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:16,639 management of the 3 million gallon water tank. Okay. I'll second it. 115 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:19,759 Roll call. do roll call since the resolution? 116 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:26,160 » No. >> Okay. All in favor? 117 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:31,599 » I I posted motion passed. >> Okay. Any other new business? 118 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:34,159 Seeing none. Old business, utility department 119 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:37,279 building. >> Very old business. 120 00:08:35,839 --> 00:08:39,519 » Mark, I'm sure you have good news for us, right? 121 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:42,095 » No. >> Okay. [laughter] 122 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:50,480 Um the mayor in part of her report last 123 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:55,480 night mentioned that issue and essentially 124 00:08:56,000 --> 00:09:05,200 it started with this building over here and the move 125 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:10,959 over there and then um the conungle building um 126 00:09:09,680 --> 00:09:14,640 » tore Yeah, but Matt uh told us some 127 00:09:13,279 --> 00:09:19,040 information which she was going to put that on hold. And then the third thing 128 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:25,040 she brought up is and it was actually was in response to a residents what was 129 00:09:22,560 --> 00:09:29,080 going on with the facilities and with regard to 130 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:39,200 the BTA water department. Um, see, and don't quote me, but it was 131 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:42,720 somewhere along the line that the the water department could eventually move 132 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:47,200 into >> fire department. 133 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:52,880 » The fire department and she and and the fire chief are working on finding a 134 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:59,440 place for the new safety service building. I don't know. I haven't had a 135 00:09:56,560 --> 00:10:07,200 chance to speak with her anymore. Wasn't wasn't there something about they were 136 00:10:01,839 --> 00:10:13,600 going to hire a person to come in to look at all the buildings and no the 137 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:19,200 only only person that that they've hired so they me 138 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:26,000 um have done so far is the architects for the library. Um, there has been a 139 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:30,959 suggestion that council do that, do a comprehensive, but that hasn't been 140 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:33,200 decided. Um, that I know. I don't know if you've 141 00:10:32,399 --> 00:10:37,519 heard it, Matt. >> Yeah, it's kind of goofy. 142 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:41,920 They're taking care of that and talking about 143 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:46,399 looking for property for the fire station. 144 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:53,519 » Fire and police station, right? uh and then 145 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:57,440 Darren moving into the fire station, but no 146 00:10:55,360 --> 00:11:06,200 uh mention about what would happen with this building. Now, there was no 147 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:06,200 discussion about that at all. And um 148 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:12,160 I can't [laughter] I don't know what to say on that issue. 149 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:16,160 I I was under the impression that we were going to come back cuz we had a 150 00:11:13,839 --> 00:11:20,079 work session. I was under the impression, which could be mistaken, you 151 00:11:18,079 --> 00:11:28,079 know, that we were going to come back and and uh do that again and see where, 152 00:11:24,079 --> 00:11:32,480 you know, where we were at this point. I don't know that that's going to occur. 153 00:11:30,959 --> 00:11:36,560 But at this point, to answer your question, 154 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:40,880 um >> there is no answer. It sounds like to me 155 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:47,600 » the answer only answer I heard is when the fire department moves 156 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:51,839 » uh the water department could move into possibly 157 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:56,560 the old fire station. >> But that would be I would think years 158 00:11:54,720 --> 00:12:01,040 away. >> I would think um just from and again 159 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:03,120 this is just from what I >> don't even know where they're going to 160 00:12:02,079 --> 00:12:09,600 put it. >> No. Um, but uh I I would think that that 161 00:12:06,560 --> 00:12:14,000 building that move for the fire department is going to take several 162 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:16,000 years. >> That's been my experience with fire 163 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:19,760 departments. >> So then the water department would 164 00:12:17,680 --> 00:12:24,720 probably stay here >> on this building. 165 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:29,839 » Um, and I I'm not sure about that. But again, 166 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:38,440 everybody's moving over there. There will still be that office in the back. 167 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:38,440 uh for the water department. 168 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:45,279 Okay. >> And honestly, 169 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:49,519 as I said, I was under the impression that we would do another work session or 170 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:54,079 something along or maybe one of the committees would handle uh the 171 00:12:52,079 --> 00:12:59,800 discussion of the facilities, but I haven't heard again. So, 172 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:07,680 any more questions on that? Seeing none, 173 00:13:05,680 --> 00:13:11,920 um item number two, Imperial Water and Sewer Agreements. I know 174 00:13:10,560 --> 00:13:14,560 » we're going to have a meeting down. >> We're going to have a meeting down 175 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:20,480 another couple months, right, where we talk about we talked about 176 00:13:16,639 --> 00:13:24,639 » sometime in the fall. Yeah. Okay. 177 00:13:21,839 --> 00:13:27,839 Uh item number three, new 24 in water line. 178 00:13:26,560 --> 00:13:31,200 Darren, do you have any updates from Chris? 179 00:13:28,639 --> 00:13:36,560 » Not not major updates. I have seen some emails where they're reaching out to 180 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:41,519 Ohio Edison checking on the easements. Um but I think that's that's where 181 00:13:39,279 --> 00:13:45,040 they're at trying to get on property and see how they can make that whole thing 182 00:13:44,399 --> 00:13:47,600 work. >> Okay. 183 00:13:45,519 --> 00:13:49,600 » Coming coming down that way other than that. 184 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:52,639 » Okay. So there if you're seeing emails that 185 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:55,639 means there's work being done behind the scenes. 186 00:13:55,760 --> 00:14:04,160 » I do have a question about >> Matt 187 00:14:00,959 --> 00:14:10,480 the right away on the um uh MBSD property. 188 00:14:08,560 --> 00:14:14,079 Uh because I'm doing some of the I'm contracting land owners, but I don't 189 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:18,959 have to go see them, do I? >> No. So, what we'll do is um and I I was 190 00:14:16,639 --> 00:14:24,720 talking to MVSD's attorney, Tom Wilson, about this. Um they've already consented 191 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:30,560 to this. What'll happen is once we determine exactly where that line's 192 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:34,880 going to go, um uh Verdantis will need to prepare the legal descriptions. Then 193 00:14:33,279 --> 00:14:39,519 I'll incorporate those into formal easements, and then those will have to 194 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:44,160 be approved by uh basically a vote of the board at MBSD that'll be attached to 195 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:48,240 it. But they've been very MVSC has been very clear. We're not going to share any 196 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:52,160 any of the expense of this or prepare any of this stuff. You guys get it done, 197 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:54,720 send it to us, and we'll approve it is basically what their representations 198 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:58,320 have been to us. But they're not going out of pocket for anything. So once 199 00:14:56,639 --> 00:15:02,560 Chris has that information as to where exactly the line's going to be, I can 200 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:07,560 prepare the easement and then they'll approve it by resolution for MVSD. 201 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:17,279 » Any more questions on that? Item number four, clean energy future 202 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:21,440 Trumbo LLC sanitary sewer in Northtown Ohio EPA PTI. I'm assuming probably no 203 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:25,199 updates. >> Yeah, I mean there's no updates. We have 204 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:31,120 a scheduling order. Um hearing is not until next May. So it's we're basically 205 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:36,639 with the appeal right now on that. So >> Okay. Any questions from Matt on that? 206 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:40,720 » Uh rules and regulations governing water use and service. 207 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:44,800 I didn't hear any updates from the person on that. Okay. 208 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:47,920 » Um that was under new business number three. That was one. 209 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:53,279 » Yeah, that's more the one that we held up on. Uh item number six, Nile's bulk 210 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:56,079 water agreement. I don't have any updates on that. The last time I talked 211 00:15:54,720 --> 00:16:01,199 to Niles about anything was just consenting to the 24in line and they 212 00:15:58,079 --> 00:16:05,759 gave their consent um which didn't require an amendment of the agreement. 213 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:11,199 So, I mean, if there's if you guys want me to continue to push that issue about 214 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:14,959 getting clear language with Niles, I mean, problem is this. We have we 215 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:18,880 already have a contract that's been approved by our council and their 216 00:16:16,959 --> 00:16:23,279 council. Every time I reach out to them, there's no motivation from the law 217 00:16:21,519 --> 00:16:26,720 director to really advance this at all because they don't think that council 218 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:32,880 will approve an amendment or change to the bulk agreement. So there there's not 219 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:35,759 much more I can do uh other than just say here here's the changes that we want 220 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:39,519 but I've already revised the language in the agreement and sent it to them and I 221 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:41,759 followed up with them and I just you know 222 00:16:40,639 --> 00:16:47,120 » I don't understand [clears throat] why their council if they're interpreting it 223 00:16:43,839 --> 00:16:54,320 for the largest portions of water we buy at a cheaper rate 224 00:16:50,160 --> 00:17:01,199 if if we go into this new line with their beliefs that it's you you know, 225 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:06,400 MBSD rate plus 10% or whatever. They're selling it to us cheaper. So, 226 00:17:05,199 --> 00:17:09,919 I don't want to be negative, but we could argue, well, no, we thought we 227 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:13,600 were going to get it for a lot less. >> I mean, I' I've even pointed out to them 228 00:17:11,839 --> 00:17:17,039 that not only is their interpretation wrong, but they would we would have a 229 00:17:15,120 --> 00:17:21,039 huge credit under their interpretation. And I just I don't know if anyone's even 230 00:17:19,679 --> 00:17:24,160 really like I don't even know if they're really looking into this that much or if 231 00:17:22,559 --> 00:17:28,799 it just goes in one ear, not the other. >> Yeah. And that that's my uncertainty on 232 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:33,679 it is like as we build the sign and prepare to build the sign that should be 233 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:37,360 set in stone. We should know >> exactly where we're at. 234 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:41,360 » Yeah. Cuz you know, I hate to say this, but right down the road is the city of 235 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:45,440 War. What would they sell us water for? We don't want them to want to open that 236 00:17:43,360 --> 00:17:49,600 agreement after the fact and then say, "Well, we want to increase that water 237 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:55,120 rate." We know MBSD might be increasing that rate. That's that's known. But 238 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:59,200 I think >> yeah, I agree. I I'll push back and I'll 239 00:17:57,520 --> 00:18:02,240 but I I will push back and I'll say, you know, given this 24inch redundant line, 240 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:06,480 we need to make sure we get the language cleared up in the agreement. But at the 241 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:10,640 end of the day, if they just keep ignoring me, the only thing the only 242 00:18:08,799 --> 00:18:14,080 real legal remedy would be to file an action in court for a declaratory 243 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:18,160 judgment to have the court interpret the contract for us. And I mean, that'd be a 244 00:18:15,919 --> 00:18:21,760 lawsuit. Basically, it's it's where you have two people that don't agree on an 245 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:25,280 interpretation of a contract say, "Judge, we need you to decide what this 246 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:27,840 contract means." But if they keep ignoring me, that's that's the only 247 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:31,919 legal remedy we have. >> Yeah. And I can't, 248 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:35,360 » you know, force council to do on Nile city council to do anything or force the 249 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:38,480 law director to present it to, you know, the city. 250 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:42,880 » You guys want me to keep pushing and try and see if you can get clarification? 251 00:18:41,039 --> 00:18:46,240 » I would think so. >> Yeah. 252 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:50,320 As it stands, it's in our favor. >> Yeah. Yeah. I mean, 253 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:56,080 » if if we met with Nile, if their council was giving them push back, our 254 00:18:52,559 --> 00:18:59,520 interpretation is at a higher rate. >> Yeah. 255 00:18:56,720 --> 00:19:05,039 » I don't I don't see the resistance. I mean, that it's a little bit backwards, 256 00:19:01,120 --> 00:19:12,000 but I mean, it is how we interpret it, the examples in the document, and you 257 00:19:07,360 --> 00:19:15,280 know, like Matt said, it it is the way >> Yeah. Yeah, it's written 258 00:19:13,360 --> 00:19:18,320 » and and I provided them that breakdown showing that we have a credit under 259 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:22,320 their interpretation. And I said, you know, I know this is going to this is 260 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:26,320 difficult, I guess, maybe to convey to council to approve. But me, if you show 261 00:19:23,919 --> 00:19:29,679 them these numbers, they'll realize, you know, that this is not somebody arguing, 262 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:32,960 well, we want to pay less or we want more money back. We just want to be on 263 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:35,120 the same page with everybody, make sure we have clarity. 264 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:40,000 » Um, >> so I I will reach out to them again. 265 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:44,559 Okay. >> Any more questions on that? 266 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:50,400 Seeing none, item number seven, Trumbo Energy Center, Warren Waterline. And we 267 00:19:46,799 --> 00:19:55,440 have an action item record drawings. I do not think Chris has received the 268 00:19:52,559 --> 00:19:59,520 drawings yet, I'm guessing. Um I don't know if 269 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:02,880 Are we to the point that we need to have Matt reach out to him to get the 270 00:20:00,799 --> 00:20:06,320 drawings? >> I think they said they were working on 271 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:10,160 them. It's just a matter of the time that it takes to complete. I don't And 272 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:14,240 they were doing the rest. He said like some of the restoration and 273 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:17,039 » I I would I'm not real sure. I don't want to answer for Chris probably before 274 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:20,480 we ask Matt to do anything. >> Yeah. I'd rather Chris say, "Hey, I'm to 275 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:22,880 the point that I need >> Correct. 276 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:25,840 » Yeah. >> You guys okay with that?" 277 00:20:23,919 --> 00:20:28,480 » Yeah. But the part I don't understand is you installed a water line. 278 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:30,240 » Yeah. They have drawings. >> You have drawings. You have to have 279 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:33,440 drawings. >> Yes, they have drawings. 280 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:35,039 » They just Well, put it over there. I guess a little bit over there. I mean, 281 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:36,720 it's >> Yeah. 282 00:20:35,360 --> 00:20:40,120 » What's the You know, what's the problem? I don't understand. 283 00:20:40,159 --> 00:20:45,280 They correct any as built and then >> that should update 284 00:20:44,159 --> 00:20:46,799 » that should have been done long time ago. 285 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:52,080 » Yeah, the water line's been in since what? October, November. 286 00:20:49,679 --> 00:20:57,919 So, yeah. Okay, we'll hold off on that till we 287 00:20:54,640 --> 00:21:02,960 talk to Chris. Uh, Trumbo Energy Center sanitary sewer that's [clears throat] 288 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:05,840 » Yeah, that's that's same thing under the EPA fuel. 289 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:09,600 » We could probably combine them too, couldn't we? Yeah, I mean it's it's the 290 00:21:07,679 --> 00:21:13,120 same thing. One plays into the other. I mean, if we you know, we're saying they 291 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:16,799 shouldn't be able to discharge into Mud Creek and that they should have to 292 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:21,280 follow our local or our rules and regulations and discharge into our sewer 293 00:21:19,120 --> 00:21:27,360 rather than in Trumble County. So, >> okay. 294 00:21:23,679 --> 00:21:30,880 » Okay. Any questions for Matt on that? Item number 295 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:34,240 » just for clarification, you want me to remove number eight and all you guys 296 00:21:33,919 --> 00:21:38,559 okay? >> Yeah, I'd say combine them. Yeah, 297 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:44,600 combined. [clears throat] >> Uh, item number nine, proposed Hikon 298 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:44,600 Road waterline improvements. 299 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:51,440 So, I've circulated you guys this master 300 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:56,720 funding agreement and I actually I spoke to their uh attorney today uh as 301 00:21:54,400 --> 00:22:02,080 recently as today. There there's two main issues. Um, 302 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:06,559 so under this master funding agreement, it's for the it's for the water line 303 00:22:04,559 --> 00:22:11,840 that they're going to fund as well as traffic control lights um that they're 304 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:18,400 going to fund. The main issue is this 200,000 gall per 305 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:23,200 day. They're telling me, "Well, if you guys can only commit to 200,000 gallons 306 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:26,320 per day, that's fine, but we don't want there to be an exclusivity provision 307 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:30,559 where we exclusively have to buy from the village because if we have other 308 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:34,480 tenants here on this in this facility that have more water usage needs that we 309 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:38,880 can't provide to them under this contract, we need to be able to go to 310 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:43,200 another source or remove the exclusivity provision 311 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:45,200 and we don't we don't put a cap in there on how much you guys are going to 312 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:48,240 provide, which nobody wants to do because we don't know what their future 313 00:22:46,559 --> 00:22:52,799 water needs are. We can't overcommit to something. So, what we were proposing 314 00:22:51,360 --> 00:22:56,320 when I was talking to her and I talked to the mayor about this a little bit, we 315 00:22:54,320 --> 00:23:02,720 were thinking maybe some middle of the road language where we will get we will 316 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:07,360 provide exclusively up to 200,000 gallons per day. In the event that they 317 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:11,840 need more and we refuse to provide it with provide them with additional water, 318 00:23:10,159 --> 00:23:17,120 then the exclusivity provision is removed for 319 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:21,440 any excess amount above the 200,000. However, in the event that down the road 320 00:23:19,120 --> 00:23:26,000 we're able to provide them more than that 200,000, if there's a change in 321 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:31,520 course, change in decision, then we have the right basically the 322 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:35,840 first option to to sell them the water to sort of, you know, 323 00:23:33,919 --> 00:23:40,799 » regardless even if they were buying off of Warren, it still has to go through a 324 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:43,679 » right. Yeah. And and I've already explained to them there's there's no 325 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:47,200 contractually there's no right. I mean, the city of Warren and the village would 326 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:50,799 have to agree. correct >> by you know the legislative authority 327 00:23:48,799 --> 00:23:53,840 would have to approve another contract and everybody's on the same page with 328 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:57,360 that at least the city of Warren and Lordstown are based on the document 329 00:23:55,600 --> 00:24:00,240 trail and I've explained that to them and I don't think that they were aware 330 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:02,559 of that until a couple of months ago because their lawyers are reaching out 331 00:24:01,360 --> 00:24:06,799 to me saying is this true can you give me yeah here's a letter from the city of 332 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:09,919 Warren acknowledging that the agreement is terminated here's the contract 333 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:14,559 showing it terminated when GM ceased operations any water supplies on an 334 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:19,039 informal basis that's not you know there's no legal support for so they 335 00:24:16,799 --> 00:24:25,120 understand that. Um but yeah, their concern is committing 336 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:28,640 to ex, you know, agreeing that we're the exclusive provider and at the same time 337 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:31,840 agreeing to a cap. They're worried that they could hamstring themselves. I mean, 338 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:35,279 they have another tenant looking at the facility and they don't even really know 339 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:39,600 much about that tenant when I talk to them, let alone what their water needs 340 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:45,919 are or anything else. So, um, >> with that being said, do they understand 341 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:52,240 that Warren supplied General Motors water prior to Lordstown Energy C 342 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:56,559 Center's construction and then providing 2 and a half million gallons a day to 343 00:24:53,919 --> 00:25:02,240 Lordtown Energy Center. I don't know the capacity of the Warren line, but General 344 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:06,559 Motors left LAC come in. That line is what feeds Lordtown Energy Center. The 345 00:25:04,559 --> 00:25:10,559 longer they delay the construction of the line around the plant, the longer 346 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:17,200 they may not have the water they need for that future tenant. I just don't 347 00:25:13,360 --> 00:25:22,480 want them to be like unclear. LEC pulls a triple or quadruple the amount of 348 00:25:20,559 --> 00:25:23,919 water that General Motors ever did at its maximum. 349 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:30,799 » Yeah. >> So, they may not have the ability to get 350 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:35,279 much more water regardless. >> Yeah. Warren may not have the capacity 351 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:39,679 either. And that is exactly why they acknowledge that the General Motors 352 00:25:36,799 --> 00:25:42,880 contract and their commitment to that site ended with when General Motors 353 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:46,159 left. >> Yeah. 354 00:25:43,679 --> 00:25:53,200 » So I don't I just want to be forthright with Fox Con what whoever's over there, 355 00:25:51,360 --> 00:25:58,960 you know, this has went on for months and if they need that water soon they 356 00:25:56,640 --> 00:26:03,360 held it up. I mean it's we're talking about what we can provide. D can move 357 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:06,640 water different directions, but >> yeah, I see they're ready to go there 358 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:11,360 because they got all the pipes on the ground over there. All their water lines 359 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:13,840 are all sitting there staged that they're uh they're redoing the fire loop 360 00:26:13,279 --> 00:26:16,880 over there. >> Yeah. Is that what they want? 361 00:26:15,279 --> 00:26:21,120 » I believe so. Yeah. >> I I have told them that you try to 362 00:26:19,279 --> 00:26:27,120 explain with that loop going around. We can supply from different both sides. 363 00:26:25,360 --> 00:26:30,159 anywhere coming down Todd Avenue if they got a break from Warline they're done 364 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:34,720 until >> they're done. Yeah, 365 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:39,919 » they're done. I have told them that. >> But I stockp doesn't know that. Fox 366 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:45,840 » I I can't answer that. I I was talking to Foxcon. Correct. Where it went from 367 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:51,279 there. I don't you said Sony was coming in the next council meeting. 368 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:57,679 » Next council meeting they said that what is the name of it? suffering. 369 00:26:53,600 --> 00:27:00,799 » Yeah, they're coming. Sean council, 370 00:26:58,559 --> 00:27:02,480 » I believe so. He's out of DC, right? I believe it's Sean. 371 00:27:01,679 --> 00:27:05,440 » Yeah. >> Yeah. The mayor and I spoke. So, this is 372 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:10,000 the second component. So, there's getting this paragraph rewarded is the 373 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:14,799 only thing holding up at least, you know, massaging the language of this 374 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:18,640 agreement. But the other concern is that just all of these data center rumors 375 00:27:17,360 --> 00:27:23,279 that we've been hearing and we've been contacted by a company called DSG Group 376 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:27,760 says we're hiring employees for the Foxcon facility to build a data center. 377 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:31,840 Um there was an article in the business journal about a modular data center 378 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:36,080 going in there last week. So there's just everybody's telling us it's not a 379 00:27:33,679 --> 00:27:40,400 data center uh or everyone telling us it is a data center except for Foxcon and 380 00:27:38,159 --> 00:27:44,320 SoftBank. And I talked to them again today and I said listen I said I I told 381 00:27:42,799 --> 00:27:49,614 them about all the different rumors you know everything that we were hearing 382 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:52,880 they once again reiterated this is not [clears throat] 383 00:27:50,559 --> 00:27:57,679 a full-scale data center this is a proof of concept you know showroom to 384 00:27:55,679 --> 00:28:01,440 manufacture data center components and I said you're not putting a full-scale 385 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:04,159 data center they said no we are not we we are sorry that this is you know 386 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:10,399 getting so out of control with the rumors um but I it's at the point where 387 00:28:09,039 --> 00:28:13,849 I talked to the mayor said somebody from Soft Bank because we've only been 388 00:28:11,679 --> 00:28:17,840 talking to Foxcon. Soft Bank ultimately [clears throat] funds the owner of the 389 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:22,399 property and SoftBank and Foxcon is one partner/tenant 390 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:27,279 and um I said somebody from SoftBank needs to come here and talk to council 391 00:28:24,559 --> 00:28:30,399 as a whole and talk to the public before anybody makes a decision on the master 392 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:33,440 funding agreement. And and I think that's kind of the bigger break that 393 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:37,039 we're hitting right now because we we can't keep going off of well the 394 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:40,480 engineer or the mayor or the solicitor talked to this one person and this is 395 00:28:38,799 --> 00:28:45,520 what they said. I mean I think council needs to hear as a whole. Um and so is 396 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:49,919 the public so they can ask questions and make a decision if if they really want 397 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:55,440 to move forward with the agreement. So um that's that's the bigger issue. 398 00:28:52,480 --> 00:29:00,399 Getting this, you know, this exclusivity provision and everything reworked is the 399 00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:06,720 other issue. um you know but will that help if we have a conversation with him 400 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:11,279 or no because you're done lawyers? >> I mean it it can't hurt but I from the 401 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:15,279 lawyer's perspective they don't want to say all right we'll agree to 200,000 402 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:19,120 gallons per day and you guys are exclusive provider because now they 403 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:23,679 won't be able because now if they have a tenant that that they have a ten that 404 00:29:20,559 --> 00:29:29,200 wants more I I get it. They just want to be able to say, "I just don't want to 405 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:34,159 create a back door down the road that >> Warren could run." 406 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:37,919 » Yeah. Without anybody saying it's okay. >> I guess that would be my fear. 407 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:41,600 » It would have to be based upon our refusal to provide them anything more 408 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:45,039 than 200,000. And then there would still have to be approval and everything to 409 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:48,159 run the to run the water line, but it would it would have to be because we're 410 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:54,080 telling them we're not going to provide you guys with any with 200 thou more 411 00:29:50,399 --> 00:29:58,799 than 200,000 gallons per day. Okay. Um, the other concern they had is they 412 00:29:56,960 --> 00:30:01,440 said, "Well, what if what if you guys just start increasing the water rates?" 413 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:05,279 And I explained, I said, "No." I said, "The water rates are set by our rules 414 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:08,320 and regulations, but the BPA approves it across the board. They're not we don't 415 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:11,600 charge, you know, higher rates based on the type of business." I said, "Now, 416 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:14,720 there are water service agreements, which are an option, which would be, you 417 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:17,919 know, a lower rate depending on volume, but there's no requirement right now 418 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:21,200 that we enter into that with them." But they had concerns that we would just 419 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:24,399 unilaterally jack up their rates too for some reason. 420 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:28,640 » We have one rate throughout the village residential. 421 00:30:25,919 --> 00:30:32,880 We did have a decreasing tier, but no matter where the source is, whether it's 422 00:30:30,399 --> 00:30:38,559 Niles Water or Warren Water, the customer's rate is the same. We pay the 423 00:30:36,559 --> 00:30:42,240 the difference, you know, >> and I I explain the rate's not going to 424 00:30:40,399 --> 00:30:45,120 be different for you just because of the type of business. said the only way it 425 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:49,279 would be different is if we had some type of specific agreement with you 426 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:52,880 guys, which would be subsequent to this master funding agreement. But so I'm 427 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:55,440 trying to work on language and ultimately I mean you guys are going to 428 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:58,799 have to decide what you want to recommend for council and council's 429 00:30:56,960 --> 00:31:03,679 going to have to approve it. if you're okay with this 200,000 cap and giving it 430 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:08,559 as exclusivity and only in the event that we refuse to provide them with any 431 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:12,000 more water um can they go look for other sources and then if we subsequently 432 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:16,240 decide we are going to provide you with more water that they would have to you 433 00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:21,600 know discontinue service from the city of Warren but as of right now that's the 434 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:24,880 language that we're looking at >> I think that would be fine long as they 435 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:29,600 don't get locked >> they should you can't really stop them 436 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:33,679 from doing business and we don't want to say, "Well, you got to shut off because 437 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:37,760 we can't give you the water." But you have to go to the other source. I'm 438 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:41,840 fine. But soon as we're able to, no choice. You got to come back. 439 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:45,440 » Yeah, I'm fine with that. >> I'm okay with that. As as long as it's 440 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:47,919 ironclad and we're protected, I'm I'm good with 441 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:49,840 » Yeah, me too. >> Okay. 442 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:54,559 » So, that's that and that's what they're going to present to council. And could 443 00:31:52,159 --> 00:31:59,919 it be addressed by no matter what they are our customer where we choose to pull 444 00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:06,080 their water supply from is our discretion if we if we allowed a 445 00:32:04,159 --> 00:32:08,960 secondary connection until >> correct. Yeah. They can't just go to war 446 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:14,880 and say hey we want more water. >> It's up Yeah. They just need to inform 447 00:32:10,799 --> 00:32:19,600 us of anticipated increased needs and as the water line's being built if we do 448 00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:22,799 get that higher volume. It it's a mute point. Okay. 449 00:32:20,799 --> 00:32:26,399 » With what we can supply, correct? >> Well, there there there's a lot of 450 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:30,159 things with that. One, you know, we got to keep up with how both places are 451 00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:34,640 treating two. You can't turn one off and turn the other one back on. That that 452 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:40,640 that cannot happen. Okay? So, it's not going to be that simple. Now, Foxcon 453 00:32:37,519 --> 00:32:46,880 came to us and said, "Hey, 142,000 right before. Can we do better?" Which I 454 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:49,679 ran the numbers and did a lot better and they're still not happy. So, I don't 455 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:53,840 know. I I think they're not looking for a number. They're looking for don't 456 00:32:52,399 --> 00:32:56,159 restrain us at all. >> That they're looking for flexibility and 457 00:32:55,440 --> 00:33:00,000 options. Yeah. >> I We can't do that right now till we get 458 00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:03,840 this other 24 in and make sure everything's going fine. You know, we 459 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:07,600 needed that 24. We need another tank. We didn't get it. This is the situation 460 00:33:05,279 --> 00:33:12,640 we're in now. Just here recently, there was another company that came to zoning 461 00:33:10,399 --> 00:33:16,880 and was asking about, "Hey, how about over 200,000 more a day? Can we get 462 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:21,360 that?" So, we're still got new businesses plus 463 00:33:18,799 --> 00:33:26,320 businesses that are here. So, as far as unlimited 464 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:30,159 water for somebody, we we're not at that. I I cannot let 465 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:32,880 » Yeah. You can't promise it. >> Can't get it. 466 00:33:31,279 --> 00:33:37,600 » You know, I mean, we we got other things that we could run out real quick. I gave 467 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:43,120 the example. Did you see the email, Chris? Okay. The example was I got 45 ft 468 00:33:41,039 --> 00:33:48,559 in that tank right now. 2 and 1/2 hours we lo we lose 5T. That's how fast. And 469 00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:53,440 it was taking over 15 hours to get that 5 ft back in. That's how much water we 470 00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:59,200 go through. According to AWWA, we should have one day supply left over. 471 00:33:57,039 --> 00:34:03,039 We won't make that. We got a lot of improvements to do. So, we need to be 472 00:34:01,519 --> 00:34:08,399 careful with these numbers. That's why I couldn't go really any higher. I can't 473 00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:13,440 any emergency, any fire event or whatever else. Now I I you know we're 474 00:34:11,359 --> 00:34:17,760 not going to make it with normal day-to-day operations if we 475 00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:22,560 need to. We're we're we're getting that close now. 476 00:34:20,159 --> 00:34:26,800 » Okay. Does that help? >> It does. I So what I'll do is I'll 477 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:31,040 finesse this language. Um I'm going to circulate it back to the group. 478 00:34:30,079 --> 00:34:34,720 I'm sure they're going to have additional changes, but I I don't think 479 00:34:33,119 --> 00:34:39,040 that anything's going in front nothing should go in front of anyone until we 480 00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:41,119 have we've heard from um Soft Bank. >> Yeah. 481 00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:45,520 » Because I I think that's important for the BPA and council to be able to ask 482 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:48,639 questions and the public um before we move forward with this agreement. 483 00:34:48,159 --> 00:34:52,879 » Okay. >> Can you guys be at the C next council 484 00:34:50,399 --> 00:34:55,440 meeting? >> Stanley, 485 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:59,520 » uh what date is that? >> Uh be the first Monday in September. 486 00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:03,280 Correct. Yeah, but that's Labor Day. 487 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:09,320 » Labor Day be the 8th. So it's the same day as ours 488 00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:09,320 actually, isn't it? 489 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:16,480 » Yes. >> Yeah, it's the same day as ours then. 490 00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:20,400 » So they just moved it Tuesday. >> Wait a minute. No, 491 00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:24,240 » we we had talked about moving >> September. No, you're right. 492 00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:26,079 » Yeah, Tuesday is the first Tuesday. 493 00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:30,839 » Labor Day is the next week. >> Yeah. 494 00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:30,839 » Yeah. I don't have I'll be around. 495 00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:38,480 Okay. To a council meeting on the first. 496 00:35:35,599 --> 00:35:42,400 » No, council meetings on the 8th. Our meeting next meeting is on the first. 497 00:35:41,119 --> 00:35:47,440 » Yeah, either date. >> Okay. 498 00:35:43,599 --> 00:35:51,280 » Okay. Any more questions on that? Seeing none, South Springs Road Booster Station 499 00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:57,000 relocation. there. Do you have any updates on 500 00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:57,000 how that's going or 501 00:35:59,599 --> 00:36:04,440 » no? No real updates? No. >> Okay. 502 00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:12,800 » Item number 11. I I do know Chris was working on some stuff because I talked 503 00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:16,160 to him. I don't know if he talked to you, Darren. 504 00:36:13,839 --> 00:36:22,480 » I have not talked to him. I I still need to talk to to Cindy about that. We did 505 00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:27,599 find um three more grinders that when we did have a lot of water, we're we're 506 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:32,160 getting some in two or three. So, I ordered more risers. Hopefully, that'll 507 00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:35,440 help. We're still waiting on that. That's that's where I am. Like I say, he 508 00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:41,440 said he was going to send you some stuff. I don't know if he did or not. 509 00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:49,760 » We did talk um before I was before I was up on vacation. Um, and I don't believe 510 00:36:45,839 --> 00:36:55,599 he forwarded what we were talking about at that time. Um, I went through my 511 00:36:52,240 --> 00:36:57,680 emails yesterday real quick, but I could have missed it. I don't I don't I don't 512 00:36:57,440 --> 00:36:59,520 believe >> he said he was going to send you an 513 00:36:58,510 --> 00:37:02,880 [clears throat] email and I didn't know if he got to it or not. 514 00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:07,720 » Yeah, we talked um before I went on vacation about the INI. Um, 515 00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:15,640 any questions? 516 00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:19,720 Any additional public comments? 517 00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:28,240 Okay, seeing none solicitors report. The only thing I have is TC's attorney 518 00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:31,680 reached out to me about this um you know their claim that they've been 519 00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:35,760 overcharged between the bulk rate and the contract rate after they declared 520 00:37:33,359 --> 00:37:39,839 full commercial operation. Uh which was like April 15th or April the middle of 521 00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:43,680 April. And so there's that 2 to 3 week period between April and May that 522 00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:46,880 they're claiming they were overcharged. They're claiming they were overcharged 523 00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:51,359 242,000. Um, 524 00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:57,000 I just I I guess I just more more or less had questions as in terms of are we 525 00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:04,160 and I emailed Cindy about this too and I So Cindy, are we 526 00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:09,200 are they were they being build at the Warren contractual rate I guess during 527 00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:13,839 that last part of April? Do we know? And here here's the breakdown. It says here 528 00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:18,000 that they think that the service water agreement rate for us should be 440. 529 00:38:15,839 --> 00:38:23,920 Now, we have a 49% adder in our contract, right? 530 00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:30,880 » We had a 49% adder when we entered into the contract. Um, the contract states 531 00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:36,240 that if Warren increases their rate that our adder or I don't think they call it 532 00:38:34,079 --> 00:38:41,760 an adder in this contract will also be increased by the same number. Um, I 533 00:38:39,119 --> 00:38:47,359 spoke directly to uh Ted Harvey and I showed him how to calculate that rate. 534 00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:53,280 um he understood it and 535 00:38:49,680 --> 00:39:01,119 accepted that. Um as far as the credit, I I told you the contract states that 536 00:38:56,800 --> 00:39:07,040 they they qualify, in my opinion, they qualify for that rate once they reach 537 00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:11,760 full commercial operation, but they failed to create a contact contract or 538 00:39:10,079 --> 00:39:15,920 permit to complete the permit. they didn't come 539 00:39:14,079 --> 00:39:21,839 in. Then when they did come in, they didn't come in with the deposit. So when 540 00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:28,560 as soon as they started the permit process, 541 00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:33,920 we got a final uh a meter reading um which Warren didn't allow us access to 542 00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:37,520 the day. It took one day more and then but still before we received the deposit 543 00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:41,440 which should have been submitted with the permit application, 544 00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:47,839 we transferred that account before we had the deposit. Um I feel that we build 545 00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:50,960 it accordingly to the contract and they want to dispute it. It says in there 546 00:39:49,359 --> 00:39:55,280 that they have to comply with the rules and regulations 547 00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:59,359 and permit application with the deposit is in the rules and regulations. 548 00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:04,240 » Yeah. >> Yeah. Did Warren um that's I'm trying to 549 00:40:02,079 --> 00:40:06,560 Did Warren start charging us under the contract rate in 550 00:40:05,839 --> 00:40:09,119 » Warren >> cuz I know Warren I believe Warren's 551 00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:14,240 position [clears throat] is they recognize you know commercial completion 552 00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:20,079 of commercial or or beginning of commercial operations uh on the April as 553 00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:23,599 of April 15th. So, did they charge us under the contract or they charge us? 554 00:40:21,839 --> 00:40:31,960 » If if Warren told you that, that is contrary to what Warren I I met with 555 00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:31,960 Franco and 556 00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:38,640 um the billing clerk and Darren, what's the other gentleman's name? 557 00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:42,079 » Dr. DJ Ross. No, 558 00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:46,880 » Tom Ross. The three of us met in his office and they said they cannot go back 559 00:40:45,359 --> 00:40:55,359 and find that reading after the fact. They 560 00:40:48,640 --> 00:41:01,920 failed to notify them as well. Um we the warrants rate for Lordstown Energy 561 00:40:58,240 --> 00:41:06,800 Center at the beginning I think it was two 562 00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:12,000 51. There's a two cent or a few cent difference. Warren build us through that 563 00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:16,240 period at the higher rate, the other rate in the contract, not the PEC rate. 564 00:41:15,599 --> 00:41:21,119 » Okay. >> And I do I unless they go back and give 565 00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:25,599 me a credit, they build me at the other rate for the May bill as well, the May 566 00:41:24,720 --> 00:41:30,640 usage. >> Oh, really? 567 00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:31,920 I think it was 271 for others and 267 for 568 00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:35,520 » correct >> TEC. That sounds 569 00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:40,640 » but based on a thousand galler measurement. Yes. 570 00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:48,240 And so that few cent difference when we received the bill and what we paid was 571 00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:51,520 based on that other customer rate, not the TEC rate. 572 00:41:49,599 --> 00:41:54,079 » Okay. Did Warren ever start billing us at the TEC rate? 573 00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:56,560 » I I do believe so. >> Okay. 574 00:41:54,800 --> 00:42:01,200 » I could check that because maybe we would have got in June, [clears throat] 575 00:41:58,079 --> 00:42:05,280 so that bill would come in in July. But I do think 576 00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:10,000 » so. They never changed their billing to the TEC contract rate until May. 577 00:42:09,359 --> 00:42:15,200 » Till June. >> June. 578 00:42:10,319 --> 00:42:18,400 » Or June. Okay. All right. All right. >> Okay. 579 00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:21,520 » And when I met with them, I believe I could go back and look and see when I 580 00:42:19,839 --> 00:42:26,720 did meet with them, but I think I met with them in May or at the beginning of 581 00:42:24,079 --> 00:42:33,119 June, and the director very clearly stated that 582 00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:39,240 they didn't inform them either. And the rate don't change until 583 00:42:36,240 --> 00:42:39,240 they 584 00:42:39,839 --> 00:42:47,040 we determined at that time of the meeting that they were just starting to 585 00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:51,599 pull that 4 million gallons or to get up to that full commercial operation. 586 00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:55,960 » Okay. >> And that was another thing. Um 587 00:42:56,400 --> 00:43:00,319 » All right. Well, I just want to let you guys know they're, you know, they're 588 00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:05,119 saying that we should have been build at the the contract rate, not the bulk rate 589 00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:10,720 for those two weeks at the end of April, asking for a $242,000 credit. I'll I'll 590 00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:15,440 just tell them, you know, that the rules and regulations apply under our contract 591 00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:18,079 and the BPA, you know, isn't willing to reconsider this, I guess. Does that 592 00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:21,599 work? >> Yeah. Yeah. The ball's in their court 593 00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:26,880 cuz we followed our >> Yeah, we follow we follow what we have 594 00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:30,400 in our rules. All right. 595 00:43:29,359 --> 00:43:33,599 Anything else? >> That's all I have. Any questions for 596 00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:37,520 Matt? >> Uh, engineers report. I don't have 597 00:43:35,839 --> 00:43:43,560 anything ready to give you anything to add. Okay. Uh, [clears throat] utility 598 00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:43,560 committee report. 599 00:43:46,240 --> 00:43:54,079 » I only have a few things. Um, in regards I I mentioned it briefly upstairs is you 600 00:43:52,319 --> 00:43:58,760 have the before you the Verdantis um 601 00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:10,720 professional service quote to update the sore rate study. The sore rate study is 602 00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:19,359 up to date with the financial figures. What is missing or I what I would like 603 00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:28,240 to have um checked on that is if our funds that we're setting aside for the 604 00:44:24,079 --> 00:44:32,000 lift stations is appropriate for the replacement. 605 00:44:30,319 --> 00:44:37,040 When we first started this I said, "Oh, in 15 years they're going to start 606 00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:42,880 wiring down and and and Baron is seeing that." But where are we at? You know, I 607 00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:49,280 want them to like kind of like analyze those figures verse versus versus the 608 00:44:45,359 --> 00:44:55,359 potential cost. I don't think I did not read their um scope of work. Like I 609 00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:59,280 said, I was off last week, so I got it. Haven't read it thoroughly through 610 00:44:56,960 --> 00:45:04,480 there. But that is all I would request for the sore rate study and to 611 00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:09,520 incorporate, you know, th those figures in there. The water rate is a huge mess 612 00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:15,280 because of all the different contracts, all the different purchase price rates. 613 00:45:12,079 --> 00:45:21,040 And was there TEC? Was there not going to be TEC? Well, we do have TEC, but not 614 00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:22,240 on our water. So, so many things have changed. 615 00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:26,880 » So many things have changed. >> It's hard to go back and plug in the 616 00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:30,240 figure. And then the maintenance building, you know, are we budgeting for 617 00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:33,200 a maintenance building? Are we not budgeting for a maintenance building? 618 00:45:31,839 --> 00:45:37,359 And we still really don't have the answer. Are we paying for a helic 619 00:45:34,720 --> 00:45:42,240 waterline expansion around the General Motors complex? So, I do 620 00:45:40,319 --> 00:45:46,720 want it. I do think it's very important that we move forward with that. I just 621 00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:55,680 think it maybe we could ask for them to do that on an hourly um structure for 622 00:45:50,960 --> 00:46:00,560 what it actually takes to work. But, um those those two items, like I said, 623 00:45:57,839 --> 00:46:05,599 sword needs a little bit of attention. Water's going to need more, but I don't 624 00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:10,079 think we need lump sum work. >> You guys okay with having city email 625 00:46:07,599 --> 00:46:14,480 back and say, "We'd like this to be on an hourly basis, and please give us a 626 00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:17,200 dollar figure per hour." >> Yes. 627 00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:18,560 » Okay. >> Yeah, if you don't mind doing that, 628 00:46:18,319 --> 00:46:24,400 please. >> Yeah, not a problem. The next thing I 629 00:46:20,720 --> 00:46:29,839 have is um we have a trash contract with Republic Services and 630 00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:35,359 we are in year three or starting year four the [clears throat] contract and 631 00:46:32,240 --> 00:46:39,680 there was a the first year after we entered into the contract the wages 632 00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:46,640 should have been adjusted about 1%. And they missed it and didn't increase it. 633 00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:53,440 So they wrote that off. it's in the past and then last year was zero and now this 634 00:46:49,359 --> 00:47:00,079 year um because of the fuel prices that's our variable in our contract our 635 00:46:56,560 --> 00:47:07,040 trash rate is going up um the new basic service at the road will be $1970 a 636 00:47:02,720 --> 00:47:14,079 month um or 5911 a quarter if you rent the cart it'll be 2220 a month or 6161 a 637 00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:20,640 quarter they do have a at the door service for seniors or handicap or 638 00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:25,200 whatever people um that'll go to 2822 a month. But the bag service where the 639 00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:32,560 customers can come in and purchase the bags here and just put it out as needed 640 00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:38,720 will remain at $25 for 10 bags and that is effective July 1. So some 641 00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:42,319 people have already been build for the that period. Um but there's three 642 00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:49,359 different billing periods in our community. So, they'll be prrated or 643 00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:52,560 maybe back build from July one. Um, for that I met with curb before I went on 644 00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:58,160 vacation. >> What was what was the curb service? 645 00:47:54,960 --> 00:48:07,000 » The curb the the door service or the curb regular regular curb service 646 00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:07,000 without a container is $1970 a month. 647 00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:14,200 It's a total of 5911 a quarter. So, if you have a container, 648 00:48:15,839 --> 00:48:20,319 that's the blue >> the Yeah, the the cart, the 96gallon 649 00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:23,599 cart. >> Yeah. 650 00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:32,640 » Like with one cart, I previously was paying $63 a quarter and it's now 651 00:48:27,839 --> 00:48:38,359 66.661. So, it went up $361 for 3 months, $120 a month. 652 00:48:38,720 --> 00:48:45,040 That's with the card. >> With the [clears throat] card. Yeah. 653 00:48:43,119 --> 00:48:48,880 » So, I just wanted to let you know sometimes we get questions. They'll 654 00:48:46,720 --> 00:48:54,480 primarily come through the office, but if if you have any questions, I do have 655 00:48:51,760 --> 00:49:02,559 um that posted upstairs and I will get it on um take it down to and through and 656 00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:09,160 have him put it on the website. >> When's our contract up? 657 00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:09,160 » 2028. Anything 658 00:49:09,498 --> 00:49:11,518 [clears throat] 659 00:49:14,559 --> 00:49:19,040 else? >> All these things going up because of 660 00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:21,680 gas. >> When it comes back down, 661 00:49:21,359 --> 00:49:26,529 » Mhm. >> is the rate going to come back down. 662 00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:30,000 » Yeah, it it gets it it would it [clears throat] 663 00:49:27,119 --> 00:49:33,359 index every year. So, if it drops down 1% or even falls lower, it would be 664 00:49:32,424 --> 00:49:38,800 [clears throat] adjusted by that percentage. 665 00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:44,000 Um, I don't think I have anything else. I did want to clarify when you approved 666 00:49:41,359 --> 00:49:49,599 the meeting minutes, um, Darren had asked for corrections. I forwarded the 667 00:49:46,559 --> 00:49:55,599 corrections to you, but only his corrections, correct me if I'm wrong, 668 00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:58,559 were made in in the the new set of minutes. So, you were approving the 669 00:49:57,839 --> 00:50:02,160 revised >> revised Yes. minutes. 670 00:50:00,079 --> 00:50:07,920 » Correct. Okay. Yes. Darren, you were happy with the 671 00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:14,520 the corrections. >> I don't remember seeing them. 672 00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:14,520 » Okay, 673 00:50:15,119 --> 00:50:18,160 » we'll get them to you. >> Yep. 674 00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:23,160 » Okay. >> Email. You should have received them in 675 00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:23,160 your email. 676 00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:29,599 » I have them. >> I can't answer that. 677 00:50:28,079 --> 00:50:31,920 » Just let us know. I just wanted to know if they were approving the original set 678 00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:33,440 or >> Yeah, I'm sorry. Yeah, we were 679 00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:39,040 approving. >> It's okay. 680 00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:48,079 » Y any questions for Cindy? >> Okay. Superintendent report 681 00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:52,240 the um call outs in the in the evenings. Got a 682 00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:58,480 lot of emergency markings or power outages or whatever else. A lot of times 683 00:50:54,880 --> 00:51:02,960 I I go see assess the situation or just take care of it. But I take my own 684 00:51:00,559 --> 00:51:06,960 vehicle and it's it's happening quite a bit. There's no lights. There's nothing 685 00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:11,760 on there. I'm wondering if I could take the pickup home with me so that when I 686 00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:17,280 do have those calls, at least I have lights and some tools with me and 687 00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:19,440 whatever I might need. >> I don't have a problem. 688 00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:22,800 » Yeah, I don't have a problem. >> I'm fine with that. 689 00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:28,079 » Yeah. Thank you. Um, we talked about 690 00:51:26,240 --> 00:51:32,559 cleaning lift station one and two. We had number three done already and that 691 00:51:30,559 --> 00:51:38,160 was with the warrant contract. Just an update on that. Uh, they're still not 692 00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:42,559 sure. They're going to another boss and then their law. 693 00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:48,480 So, just wanted to update you. We're still waiting on on an answer if they 694 00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:53,280 could help us out with that or not. uh a class for the for Ed and Mark 695 00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:57,520 Gorman Ruff. That's who has our lift stations. They offer every year a 696 00:51:56,000 --> 00:52:03,760 pumping class and electrical class. It's $120 697 00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:09,599 per person per class. I'd like to send both of them to both those classes 698 00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:13,920 totaling $480. >> I'll make a motion we approve the $480. 699 00:52:12,559 --> 00:52:19,520 Sir, all in >> favor? I post motion pass. 700 00:52:17,119 --> 00:52:22,520 » Darren, you said Ed and who? >> Edmark. 701 00:52:24,240 --> 00:52:31,680 » Uh, I I got I wasn't in this loop, but the shore boxes that were talked about 702 00:52:30,079 --> 00:52:38,640 prior a while ago. Okay. 703 00:52:35,359 --> 00:52:43,040 Uh, apparently Martin was supposed to get some estimates, get it to you. You 704 00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:47,920 were supposed to have an answer. I don't know. I was out of this loop. 705 00:52:44,559 --> 00:52:50,079 » Unless I I don't know if he ever gave me the estimate. 706 00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:53,280 » I'd have to go back. >> I don't know where it's at. I'm I'm 707 00:52:51,359 --> 00:52:55,040 being asked about it now and I I don't I'm not sure either. So that's why I'm 708 00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:58,000 asking. >> Can we approve the go and buy? 709 00:52:56,800 --> 00:53:00,319 » I thought we approved that. >> You did. 710 00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:05,119 » Okay. >> I'm almost positive he did. 711 00:53:03,119 --> 00:53:08,640 » Say that. I think we did. Yeah. >> Were they not purchased? 712 00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:12,400 » I believe not. I I'm just finding out about all this. Is it something maybe we 713 00:53:10,319 --> 00:53:16,319 approved and just it never got to was Martin buying them? Maybe 714 00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:18,800 » I thought that that was a plan, but I >> maybe Martin just didn't know. 715 00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:22,960 » I don't I don't know. When this whole thing was being discussed, I I was off 716 00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:25,920 and then that move got started and it was gone. So I 717 00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:28,880 » How did you say we did approve it? I remember approving it now. 718 00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:32,640 » So yeah. >> So So what's next? It's approved. Let 719 00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:38,720 » it was approved. >> I think we had I a special meeting. 720 00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:41,280 » Yeah. for that or or meeting and we just put that on there. Yeah, 721 00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:44,480 » absolutely. >> I will I will check that out. 722 00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:45,920 » Yeah, I don't like I don't think you were here for that. 723 00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:51,800 » Oh, >> yeah. I think it was just shooting me. 724 00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:51,800 » Okay. 725 00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:58,079 Um we're draining the uh Bailey tank right now. We started this afternoon. 726 00:53:56,880 --> 00:54:05,200 We're going to have a wash out on Thursday. Uh everything went smooth so 727 00:54:02,240 --> 00:54:08,559 far with with draining it. Um, Stan, especially you, if you notice anything 728 00:54:06,559 --> 00:54:09,839 different, you're getting that water, give me a call, 729 00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:13,760 » okay? >> Let me know. I think everything's going 730 00:54:11,359 --> 00:54:18,720 good. We'll have a wash out on Thursday. So, late Thursday, we'll start refilling 731 00:54:15,599 --> 00:54:23,040 it. Friday, we'll be refilling it. But, we're we're running on a pump right now. 732 00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:29,079 And I got to keep an eye on it. So, if you guys hear anything, let me know. 733 00:54:26,079 --> 00:54:29,079 Okay. 734 00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:38,480 Uh, classes for the guys. I do know that I've seen emails going out that they're 735 00:54:36,319 --> 00:54:44,559 posting classes, but they haven't posted them yet. I I know they have more than 736 00:54:41,599 --> 00:54:48,559 just you guys in a class in this area. I just have not seen the dates yet. And I 737 00:54:46,240 --> 00:54:51,599 told them, "Send me the dates so I can let you guys know if we have to adjust 738 00:54:50,240 --> 00:54:55,920 that." They said, "Once they post the dates, we can idea when that might be." 739 00:54:54,319 --> 00:54:58,240 » I'm hoping very soon, but they haven't given up on it. 740 00:54:56,880 --> 00:55:01,040 » I don't want to start >> Yeah. I don't want to start checking 741 00:54:59,599 --> 00:55:03,920 dates because they have so long to get it done and we've been waiting a lot 742 00:55:02,720 --> 00:55:07,040 more. >> Yeah, they bring 743 00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:10,400 » Yeah, the hold up was they were updating some course material. 744 00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:13,280 » So that that's what the hold up was cuz the EPA changed a couple of things. So 745 00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:16,280 that that's what the hold up was. >> Okay. 746 00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:24,480 Uh MBSD had a notice of violation from the EPA. 747 00:55:21,599 --> 00:55:29,119 They had a chemical feeder chlorine I guess that was that malfunctioned. So 748 00:55:27,359 --> 00:55:34,640 for 15 minutes before they can get it fixed again, it didn't feed correctly. 749 00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:39,440 So the detention time with their their water disinfection, 750 00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:44,640 it it didn't meet DPA's standards on there. So they 751 00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:51,040 had to notify us as we're their customer. I had to notify everybody. 752 00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:55,359 Yesterday we sent out over 1,600 letters. We hand delivered to the 753 00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:58,720 businesses, places that wouldn't get it. We got it posted here. here. It's on the 754 00:55:57,040 --> 00:56:03,200 website. Uh, nothing wrong with the water. 755 00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:07,920 Everything's fine. Um, I don't have a date when this will 756 00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:12,160 go away. We got to have a post, I know, for 7 days. I don't I think they took 757 00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:16,319 care of everything and it'll probably go right away. But the letters are going to 758 00:56:14,079 --> 00:56:20,400 start hitting the residents. Have them call me. 759 00:56:18,720 --> 00:56:23,839 It's not a problem. It's not a big deal. Water's all good. But want to make you 760 00:56:22,319 --> 00:56:27,760 guys aware cuz you may start getting phone calls, too. So, what was it? A 761 00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:33,599 chlorination issue that exactly quit chlorinating or it it quit. The injector 762 00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:36,960 quit on it, right? So, they found out they got it fixed. It was down for 15 763 00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:42,559 minutes, but >> that's a lot of water. 764 00:56:38,720 --> 00:56:46,400 » Doesn't matter if you miss contact. >> Exactly. That's So, that's what 765 00:56:44,559 --> 00:56:49,680 happened. But everything's fine and they they fixed it, corrected it. I'm just 766 00:56:48,319 --> 00:56:52,799 letting you know that a lot of letters all the letters went out to all the 767 00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:55,760 residents. So, >> be be ready for that. Well, you would 768 00:56:54,240 --> 00:57:00,240 notice something in your testing anyhow when you 769 00:56:57,359 --> 00:57:05,280 » Yes. Yeah. Well, the EPA would have too cuz they got notified right away. Um, 770 00:57:02,799 --> 00:57:08,960 and they would have done testing correct there. They wouldn't even gave 771 00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:11,040 us any water if there was a problem. >> Yeah. 772 00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:14,400 » Yeah. So, it would have been stopped actually there, but you're correct. I I 773 00:57:13,119 --> 00:57:18,799 probably would have noticed a little bit difference. We're we're good. According 774 00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:24,720 to EPA, MVSD, and L testings that I'm doing, there hasn't been an issue. So, 775 00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:32,319 Hopefully next meeting can we do interviews? Can we just put it on the 776 00:57:30,319 --> 00:57:35,680 agenda in case I get make that happen? I'm good with it for our opening. 777 00:57:34,079 --> 00:57:40,400 » That's fine. Good. >> That's all I had. 778 00:57:37,119 --> 00:57:45,520 » Okay. Any questions for Darren? >> Okay. 779 00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:54,200 Seeing none, any member comments? Yeah. Uh where are we with the relocation of 780 00:57:48,559 --> 00:57:54,200 the master meter for uh 781 00:57:57,040 --> 00:58:02,079 are they moving forward with anything or >> master meter for the 782 00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:03,760 » not master meter >> the booster station? 783 00:58:03,119 --> 00:58:06,640 » Yeah. >> Um 784 00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:11,520 you said you didn't really have any updates. 785 00:58:09,599 --> 00:58:17,119 » The only thing I thought was hanging Did he ever get that? Wasn't there still a 786 00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:19,680 car or something in there? >> It looks like there's actually an 787 00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:23,040 esavator over there now. >> Oh yeah. So, 788 00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:31,040 » as I said, the picture I don't know the the parcel goes back 789 00:58:26,799 --> 00:58:35,839 and then it cuts in and like has so where it cuts in maybe it's on that cut 790 00:58:33,839 --> 00:58:40,559 in to the property, you know, that belongs to the property north. But 791 00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:45,520 until, as I said, until they set those pins in and check that, I don't want it 792 00:58:43,839 --> 00:58:49,680 I didn't want it to be an obstacle when they went to get over there and start 793 00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:57,119 working because we got to keep things moving. 794 00:58:51,920 --> 00:59:03,280 » Well, really, my question was was are we good with the $200,000? 795 00:58:59,920 --> 00:59:07,599 » The $200,000 we already received. I will have to do a report once we we 796 00:59:06,210 --> 00:59:13,520 [clears throat] have expenses against the booster pump station already. The 797 00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:18,240 question there is what expenses qualify 798 00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:23,680 to use that 200,000. I reached out to Turbo County, but I have not got a 799 00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:29,359 response back. So my intention is is to reach out to the 800 00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:35,680 loan specialist at Berdantis she that I'm working with on the that project and 801 00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:41,520 the other project now and maybe she would be able to answer that cuz I have 802 00:59:38,799 --> 00:59:45,200 the grant, you know, the paperwork. I just don't know what the sections blah 803 00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:48,960 blah blah. I don't know what those mean. Um and for me to research it would take 804 00:59:46,960 --> 00:59:51,280 a long time where she just might know, >> yeah, 805 00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:57,599 » here's my list of what I've spent. Here's what they say. What can what 806 00:59:54,480 --> 01:00:02,000 would apply to that? >> And I do know last thing I heard on the 807 01:00:00,319 --> 01:00:07,920 project is that they were going to be coordinating a pre-construction meeting 808 01:00:04,240 --> 01:00:12,400 and then the contractor anticipated starting August 24th. 809 01:00:10,559 --> 01:00:17,839 » It it gave us uh I don't I don't remember the date on there. It wasn't 810 01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:21,599 too far off. It was a um we hope to have this timeline right here. We did have a 811 01:00:19,839 --> 01:00:26,400 meeting with him. There's nothing physically that I know that you can see 812 01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:30,880 has been done. I've talked to him. The Bernanz representative, he's been in 813 01:00:28,480 --> 01:00:35,839 here. I've I've met with uh the generator guy down there. So, things are 814 01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:39,520 going on behind the scene, if you will. You're not going to see anything yet. I 815 01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:43,040 don't know about I haven't heard when the meeting is, but they do attend. 816 01:00:41,520 --> 01:00:51,119 » Chris said that they're going to have surveyors come in and put put uh markers 817 01:00:48,640 --> 01:00:52,720 I I I hope they still do that. I I think there that 818 01:00:51,839 --> 01:00:55,200 » Yeah, that's what he said he was going to do last week. 819 01:00:53,440 --> 01:00:59,359 » Yeah, I can ask if he's >> I I haven't seen Mike if I haven't been 820 01:00:57,359 --> 01:01:01,200 on the property. I I I don't know if that that may have happened. I I'm not 821 01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:06,480 sure. >> I just wonder if you pass it. It looks 822 01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:12,079 like they haven't done anything. Like he said, there's 823 01:01:08,319 --> 01:01:16,480 there's a earth mover and a semi way back. I think it would be off our 824 01:01:14,240 --> 01:01:20,000 property. Either way, it wouldn't interfer what they're going to do. But 825 01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:23,000 still needs to go. >> Yeah. 826 01:01:23,359 --> 01:01:28,720 » It shouldn't take long for any funds to go out cuz once the contract's awarded 827 01:01:27,520 --> 01:01:32,799 to whoever's going to do the construction, there's a big down payment 828 01:01:30,640 --> 01:01:36,559 is going to go out with it. So, the money shouldn't be a problem spending 829 01:01:34,799 --> 01:01:39,680 that money. >> I'm with And I mean, are we checking to 830 01:01:38,559 --> 01:01:43,280 see if the funds can be used to reimburse the village for buying the 831 01:01:41,280 --> 01:01:47,440 real estate as well? >> That's one of our expenses. Okay. 832 01:01:45,359 --> 01:01:52,079 » Um, we just don't know if that expense qualifies for ARPA, 833 01:01:49,760 --> 01:02:00,880 » the use of ARPA money. >> Um, the projects over $600,000. ARPA was 834 01:01:55,920 --> 01:02:05,920 200,000. So, but we've also spent >> really close to $200,000 already. 835 01:02:03,599 --> 01:02:09,200 » It's just if it qualifies for I can't put it on there and then, well, you 836 01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:13,543 know, that didn't qualify. >> Yeah. Wasn't the engineering part of 837 01:02:11,040 --> 01:02:17,440 that, too? we were able to use that [clears throat] 200,000 for the 838 01:02:15,040 --> 01:02:25,599 engineering. >> The catch there with the engineering is 839 01:02:20,720 --> 01:02:33,040 they had designed it prior to the award of receiving that money. Sometimes some 840 01:02:30,559 --> 01:02:39,920 things qualify for that, some things do not. So when we got to ARC money which 841 01:02:36,880 --> 01:02:42,559 was a time a while back I I think we needed to have 842 01:02:40,720 --> 01:02:46,000 » but it was already designed. Yeah. Yeah. They had done all that work before. 843 01:02:43,920 --> 01:02:52,240 » That's one of those questions. Can I or can't I? We spent money and by September 844 01:02:50,480 --> 01:02:59,599 you know 30th in two more months we'll have spent more money. Um 845 01:02:55,440 --> 01:03:06,960 but that I just need to push all that we can against the ARPA paperwork. Um, and 846 01:03:05,200 --> 01:03:12,319 like I said, we're I think the last time I did it was like $180 some thousand 847 01:03:10,000 --> 01:03:15,799 that we already spent on that project. Um, 848 01:03:12,799 --> 01:03:15,799 » Wow. 849 01:03:15,839 --> 01:03:23,359 » Yeah. I know Chris said that we would could use the engineering against that. 850 01:03:22,319 --> 01:03:26,720 » Mhm. >> Yeah. Any cost going forward, I think, 851 01:03:25,119 --> 01:03:29,440 is what he meant. >> Yeah. I don't know about the design. 852 01:03:28,160 --> 01:03:33,440 » I don't know about the design. >> Timing's everything with that. Yes. 853 01:03:31,119 --> 01:03:38,880 » Yeah. Okay. 854 01:03:34,160 --> 01:03:44,559 » The I believe Phyllis Dunlap um is the woman I speak with at Verdantis and I 855 01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:50,480 think she would be able to assist >> assist you. [clears throat] 856 01:03:47,359 --> 01:03:55,359 Any more member comments? Seeing none, no quarterly approval of 857 01:03:52,400 --> 01:03:56,960 building adjustments. Motion to adjurnn. >> So move. 858 01:03:56,319 --> 01:04:00,960 » Second. >> All in favor? 859 01:03:58,079 --> 01:04:05,240 » I opposed. Motion passes. Have a good night everyone. You too.