[0:00] Okay, I'd like to call this regular
board of public affairs meeting to order
[0:03] of August 18th. Please stand for the
Lord's prayer and pledge of allegiance.
[0:09] » Our Father, Lord in heaven, be thy name,
thy kingdom, thasses
[0:22] as we forgive those who trespass against
us. Lead us not into temptation, but
[0:27] deliver us from evil. and the kingdom,
power, and glory forever. Amen.
[0:35] » Pledge allegiance to the flag of the
United States of America and to the
[0:40] republic for which it stands, one nation
under God, indivisible, with liberty and
[0:47] justice for all.
[0:51] » Roll call, please.
>> Peterson,
[0:54] » present.
>> Michael Sullivan,
[0:55] » here.
>> Stanley Zack,
[0:57] » here. Darren Biggs
>> here.
[0:59] » Slarski present. Chris Gilnik and Matt
Reese
[1:03] » here. I'll make a motion we excuse Chris
Gnick.
[1:07] » Okay.
>> All in favor?
[1:10] » I opposed. Motion passed. Approval and
correction of the minutes. Uh did
[1:15] everybody get a chance to review the
minutes for June 16th?
[1:18] » I'll make a motion to approve.
>> Second.
[1:20] » All in favor? I opposed. Motion passed.
I'll make a motion we accept the meds
[1:26] for July 7th. Second. All in favor? I
>> opposed. Motion pass. Cindy, do we have
[1:32] any correspondence?
>> No. Okay. Any public comments?
[1:36] [clears throat]
[1:38] Any public comments? Okay. Seeing none,
on to new business. The first item is a
[1:44] master service agreement for
professional services by Bernandez for a
[1:47] water rate study update for the BPA.
Well, these since we just got these, I
[1:54] think we should hold them at least.
>> Yeah. Till I the first I saw this. So,
[2:00] okay. If we can move actually the uh
[2:06] actually at least the first four then
the tank resolution. I still have to
[2:11] talk about that some. So,
>> okay. You okay with that?
[2:15] » Okay. We'll just make a motion to
>> We have to make a motion to table this
[2:19] table. Um, it's on the agenda, so you
can make a motion to table it. Okay,
[2:25] I'll make a motion we table item 1
through 4. Is that okay with you guys?
[2:30] » Yes, I'll second that.
>> Second. All in favor?
[2:32] » I posted. Motion passed.
Okay. Item number five, a resolution
[2:39] recommending the village council
authorize the village of Lordstown to
[2:42] execute an agreement with utility
service co. industry for maintenance and
[2:47] tank asset management for the village of
Lordstown own water storage tank
[2:55] to approve it.
>> Do you think you want to move ahead with
[3:01] this?
>> Yeah.
[3:03] I don't think we got a choice.
>> Yeah. This is the gentleman that came in
[3:07] and gave the presentation.
>> Yeah. Was it June 16th Aaron?
[3:11] I think that the resolution or his
agreement said January 1st.
[3:17] » Did I miss Am I wrong?
>> It's effective January 1st.
[3:22] » I I Yeah, let me check the contract. I
think she's right though. I'm pretty
[3:27] sure it said cuz I remember I do
remember him saying like this has to be
[3:30] done in August, but yet the contract
date is January 1st is the way that it's
[3:34] drafted. Mhm.
And I don't I don't know who requested
[3:40] it, but number four under new business
was for them to review.
[3:44] » Yeah.
>> For Dantis to review that. So, whoever
[3:46] requested that,
that review has not been done or
[3:51] authorized yet.
>> Okay.
[3:54] » Do we need for Dantis to review it?
[3:59] » I I don't see why you wouldn't.
>> Okay.
[4:03] Where are you? Where where are we
referring to?
[4:06] Number four.
>> Number four.
[4:09] » Oh, okay.
[4:15] I see. Yeah.
I mean, I could tell you this is
[4:20] basically the same scope of work that
was previously approved by the BPA with
[4:25] with some additional changes under the
master services agreement. But
[4:32] yeah, Darren, if you're comfortable with
it, Matt, if you're comfortable with it.
[4:35] I don't think you need Bernandez to
>> Yeah, I don't see it. It m It's the same
[4:40] agreement. We're just switching it from
the 500,000 gallon to the 3 million
[4:44] million.
>> Yeah, we canled the 500,000 one because
[4:47] it was surface. So, we saved ourselves
some money until we got this up and
[4:52] going. Warranties are all running out.
We need to get a agreement for the
[4:57] maintenance, the wash outs, any anything
that needs it needs done with our new
[5:01] tank now.
>> Okay.
[5:04] » But do we need to uh instead of putting
number four on hold, should we just uh
[5:10] remove it?
>> I would say I don't see a reason for
[5:14] them to redo it. I mean, Darren and Matt
are okay with it.
[5:21] » You want a motion on that?
>> Yeah. Originally when this was done
[5:25] before I was solicitor, I know my the
former solicitor recommended doing a
[5:30] request for proposal and having and and
having Verdantis review this
[5:36] [clears throat] before we entered into
the initial master services agreement.
[5:40] There are statutory exceptions that we
don't need to do that. We don't need to
[5:43] bid. We don't need to go to request for
proposal. So it was kind of um
[5:47] » So maybe they thought they had to review
it.
[5:50] » That's how it was done last time. It's
it's an either or under the Ohio Revised
[5:54] Code. We could do a request for proposal
or we could negotiate directly for these
[5:58] services like we did here. And in fact,
even the first time I think in 2017,
[6:03] there was a little bit of push back
within the village. Why do a request for
[6:06] proposals? Pretty much the only company
that's going to really do this type of
[6:10] work anyway. It's going to waste
everyone's time. So, the thought was
[6:14] based on some of my emails to you last
month or and Darren as well, let's just
[6:18] move forward. We don't have to by law do
a request for proposal. So without the
[6:22] request for proposal process, I don't
know what Verdantis would be reviewing.
[6:26] » Okay.
>> So we need to go back and review number
[6:31] four completely.
>> Yeah.
[6:33] » So I'll make a motion.
>> Yeah, that makes sense to me. So I guess
[6:38] I'll make a motion not to do the master
service agreement.
[6:42] » I'll second that.
>> Second. All in favor?
[6:45] » I
>> I don't quite understand.
[6:48] We're not going to have a master
agreement on the
[6:54] » No, all this was is redandis was going
to review the contract. That's Yeah,
[7:01] unless Darren unless there's something
else that they would need to review like
[7:04] their this company's services or
anything for maintaining the tanks. My
[7:08] understanding is the originally when
this was done they were just reviewing
[7:12] the request for proposals and I think
there was only one response anyway and
[7:15] making recommendations which we're not
doing this. There's nothing I could
[7:18] think of that that would that we would
need them to review or uh any
[7:22] maintenance problems or anything I have.
I I don't go through our engineers
[7:25] anyway with that. So I I I I can't think
of anything where our engineers would be
[7:30] needed.
>> Okay.
[7:32] » So
>> it sounds like just a continuation of
[7:34] the
>> contract. Yes.
[7:37] » They haven't really there's been a few
other
[7:39] » Yeah. We're just adjusting the contract
to a new tank.
[7:41] » Exactly.
>> So Okay.
[7:44] » So motion second. All in favor? All
right.
[7:47] » I
>> I opposed. Motion passed. Okay.
[7:53] So, number five. Are you okay with
moving forward with that? Send that to
[7:57] council.
Yes. I'll make a motion we move the
[8:01] resolution for the u
utility service company for the asset
[8:06] management of the 3 million gallon water
tank. Okay. I'll second it.
[8:14] Roll call.
do roll call since the resolution?
[8:19] » No.
>> Okay. All in favor?
[8:21] » I I posted motion passed.
>> Okay. Any other new business?
[8:29] Seeing none.
Old business, utility department
[8:33] building.
>> Very old business.
[8:35] » Mark, I'm sure you have good news for
us, right?
[8:38] » No.
>> Okay. [laughter]
[8:42] Um
the mayor in part of her report last
[8:48] night mentioned
that issue and essentially
[8:56] it started with
this building over here and the move
[9:01] over there and then um
the conungle building um
[9:09] » tore
Yeah, but Matt uh told us some
[9:13] information which she was going to put
that on hold. And then the third thing
[9:16] she brought up is and it was actually
was in response to a residents what was
[9:22] going on with the facilities
and with regard to
[9:30] the BTA water department.
Um, see, and don't quote me, but it was
[9:36] somewhere along the line that the the
water department could eventually move
[9:41] into
>> fire department.
[9:43] » The fire department and she and and the
fire chief are working on finding a
[9:51] place for the new safety service
building. I don't know. I haven't had a
[9:56] chance to speak with her anymore. Wasn't
wasn't there something about they were
[10:01] going to hire a person to come in to
look at all the buildings and no the
[10:11] only only person that that they've hired
so they me
[10:16] um have done so far is the architects
for the library. Um, there has been a
[10:22] suggestion that council do that, do a
comprehensive, but that hasn't been
[10:28] decided. Um,
that I know. I don't know if you've
[10:32] heard it, Matt.
>> Yeah, it's kind of goofy.
[10:35] They're taking care of that and talking
about
[10:39] looking for property for the fire
station.
[10:43] » Fire and police station, right?
uh and then
[10:49] Darren moving into the fire station, but
no
[10:55] uh mention about what would happen with
this building. Now, there was no
[11:00] discussion about that at all. And um
[11:07] I can't [laughter]
I don't know what to say on that issue.
[11:10] I I was under the impression that we
were going to come back cuz we had a
[11:13] work session. I was under the
impression, which could be mistaken, you
[11:18] know, that we were going to come back
and and uh do that again and see where,
[11:24] you know, where we were at this point.
I don't know that that's going to occur.
[11:30] But at this point, to answer your
question,
[11:34] um
>> there is no answer. It sounds like to me
[11:38] » the answer only answer I heard is when
the fire department moves
[11:43] » uh the water department could move into
possibly
[11:49] the old fire station.
>> But that would be I would think years
[11:54] away.
>> I would think um just from and again
[11:59] this is just from what I
>> don't even know where they're going to
[12:02] put it.
>> No. Um, but uh I I would think that that
[12:06] building that move for the fire
department is going to take several
[12:11] years.
>> That's been my experience with fire
[12:15] departments.
>> So then the water department would
[12:17] probably stay here
>> on this building.
[12:21] » Um, and I I'm not sure about that. But
again,
[12:27] everybody's moving over there. There
will still be that office in the back.
[12:34] uh for the water department.
[12:39] Okay.
>> And honestly,
[12:42] as I said, I was under the impression
that we would do another work session or
[12:47] something along or maybe one of the
committees would handle uh the
[12:52] discussion of the facilities, but I
haven't heard again. So,
[13:01] any more questions on that?
Seeing none,
[13:05] um item number two, Imperial Water and
Sewer Agreements. I know
[13:10] » we're going to have a meeting down.
>> We're going to have a meeting down
[13:13] another couple months, right, where we
talk about we talked about
[13:16] » sometime in the fall. Yeah.
Okay.
[13:21] Uh item number three, new 24 in water
line.
[13:26] Darren, do you have any updates from
Chris?
[13:28] » Not not major updates. I have seen some
emails where they're reaching out to
[13:33] Ohio Edison checking on the easements.
Um but I think that's that's where
[13:39] they're at trying to get on property and
see how they can make that whole thing
[13:44] work.
>> Okay.
[13:45] » Coming coming down that way other than
that.
[13:48] » Okay.
So there if you're seeing emails that
[13:51] means there's work being done behind the
scenes.
[13:55] » I do have a question about
>> Matt
[14:00] the right away on the um
uh MBSD property.
[14:08] Uh because I'm doing some of the I'm
contracting land owners, but I don't
[14:12] have to go see them, do I?
>> No. So, what we'll do is um and I I was
[14:16] talking to MVSD's attorney, Tom Wilson,
about this. Um they've already consented
[14:21] to this. What'll happen is once we
determine exactly where that line's
[14:26] going to go, um uh Verdantis will need
to prepare the legal descriptions. Then
[14:33] I'll incorporate those into formal
easements, and then those will have to
[14:36] be approved by uh basically a vote of
the board at MBSD that'll be attached to
[14:42] it. But they've been very MVSC has been
very clear. We're not going to share any
[14:46] any of the expense of this or prepare
any of this stuff. You guys get it done,
[14:50] send it to us, and we'll approve it is
basically what their representations
[14:53] have been to us. But they're not going
out of pocket for anything. So once
[14:56] Chris has that information as to where
exactly the line's going to be, I can
[15:00] prepare the easement and then they'll
approve it by resolution for MVSD.
[15:09] » Any more questions on that?
Item number four, clean energy future
[15:14] Trumbo LLC sanitary sewer in Northtown
Ohio EPA PTI. I'm assuming probably no
[15:20] updates.
>> Yeah, I mean there's no updates. We have
[15:22] a scheduling order. Um hearing is not
until next May. So it's we're basically
[15:29] with the appeal right now on that. So
>> Okay. Any questions from Matt on that?
[15:34] » Uh rules and regulations governing water
use and service.
[15:39] I didn't hear any updates from the
person on that. Okay.
[15:42] » Um that was under new business number
three. That was one.
[15:45] » Yeah, that's more the one that we held
up on. Uh item number six, Nile's bulk
[15:51] water agreement. I don't have any
updates on that. The last time I talked
[15:54] to Niles about anything was just
consenting to the 24in line and they
[15:58] gave their consent um which didn't
require an amendment of the agreement.
[16:02] So, I mean, if there's if you guys want
me to continue to push that issue about
[16:09] getting clear language with Niles, I
mean, problem is this. We have we
[16:13] already have a contract that's been
approved by our council and their
[16:16] council. Every time I reach out to them,
there's no motivation from the law
[16:21] director to really advance this at all
because they don't think that council
[16:24] will approve an amendment or change to
the bulk agreement. So there there's not
[16:30] much more I can do uh other than just
say here here's the changes that we want
[16:34] but I've already revised the language in
the agreement and sent it to them and I
[16:37] followed up with them and I just you
know
[16:40] » I don't understand [clears throat] why
their council if they're interpreting it
[16:43] for the largest portions of water we buy
at a cheaper rate
[16:50] if if we go into this new line with
their beliefs that it's you you know,
[16:57] MBSD rate plus 10% or whatever. They're
selling it to us cheaper. So,
[17:05] I don't want to be negative, but we
could argue, well, no, we thought we
[17:07] were going to get it for a lot less.
>> I mean, I' I've even pointed out to them
[17:11] that not only is their interpretation
wrong, but they would we would have a
[17:15] huge credit under their interpretation.
And I just I don't know if anyone's even
[17:19] really like I don't even know if they're
really looking into this that much or if
[17:22] it just goes in one ear, not the other.
>> Yeah. And that that's my uncertainty on
[17:26] it is like as we build the sign and
prepare to build the sign that should be
[17:31] set in stone. We should know
>> exactly where we're at.
[17:34] » Yeah. Cuz you know, I hate to say this,
but right down the road is the city of
[17:38] War. What would they sell us water for?
We don't want them to want to open that
[17:43] agreement after the fact and then say,
"Well, we want to increase that water
[17:47] rate." We know MBSD might be increasing
that rate. That's that's known. But
[17:53] I think
>> yeah, I agree. I I'll push back and I'll
[17:57] but I I will push back and I'll say, you
know, given this 24inch redundant line,
[18:00] we need to make sure we get the language
cleared up in the agreement. But at the
[18:04] end of the day, if they just keep
ignoring me, the only thing the only
[18:08] real legal remedy would be to file an
action in court for a declaratory
[18:12] judgment to have the court interpret the
contract for us. And I mean, that'd be a
[18:15] lawsuit. Basically, it's it's where you
have two people that don't agree on an
[18:19] interpretation of a contract say,
"Judge, we need you to decide what this
[18:23] contract means." But if they keep
ignoring me, that's that's the only
[18:26] legal remedy we have.
>> Yeah. And I can't,
[18:29] » you know, force council to do on Nile
city council to do anything or force the
[18:33] law director to present it to, you know,
the city.
[18:36] » You guys want me to keep pushing and try
and see if you can get clarification?
[18:41] » I would think so.
>> Yeah.
[18:44] As it stands, it's in our favor.
>> Yeah. Yeah. I mean,
[18:47] » if if we met with Nile, if their council
was giving them push back, our
[18:52] interpretation is at a higher rate.
>> Yeah.
[18:56] » I don't I don't see the resistance. I
mean, that it's a little bit backwards,
[19:01] but I mean, it is how we interpret it,
the examples in the document, and you
[19:07] know, like Matt said, it it is the way
>> Yeah. Yeah, it's written
[19:13] » and and I provided them that breakdown
showing that we have a credit under
[19:16] their interpretation. And I said, you
know, I know this is going to this is
[19:20] difficult, I guess, maybe to convey to
council to approve. But me, if you show
[19:23] them these numbers, they'll realize, you
know, that this is not somebody arguing,
[19:28] well, we want to pay less or we want
more money back. We just want to be on
[19:31] the same page with everybody, make sure
we have clarity.
[19:34] » Um,
>> so I I will reach out to them again.
[19:37] Okay.
>> Any more questions on that?
[19:42] Seeing none, item number seven, Trumbo
Energy Center, Warren Waterline. And we
[19:46] have an action item record drawings.
I do not think Chris has received the
[19:52] drawings yet, I'm guessing.
Um I don't know if
[19:58] Are we to the point that we need to have
Matt reach out to him to get the
[20:00] drawings?
>> I think they said they were working on
[20:04] them. It's just a matter of the time
that it takes to complete. I don't And
[20:08] they were doing the rest. He said like
some of the restoration and
[20:12] » I I would I'm not real sure. I don't
want to answer for Chris probably before
[20:15] we ask Matt to do anything.
>> Yeah. I'd rather Chris say, "Hey, I'm to
[20:19] the point that I need
>> Correct.
[20:21] » Yeah.
>> You guys okay with that?"
[20:23] » Yeah. But the part I don't understand is
you installed a water line.
[20:27] » Yeah. They have drawings.
>> You have drawings. You have to have
[20:29] drawings.
>> Yes, they have drawings.
[20:31] » They just Well, put it over there. I
guess a little bit over there. I mean,
[20:34] it's
>> Yeah.
[20:35] » What's the You know, what's the problem?
I don't understand.
[20:40] They correct any as built and then
>> that should update
[20:44] » that should have been done long time
ago.
[20:45] » Yeah, the water line's been in since
what? October, November.
[20:49] So, yeah.
Okay, we'll hold off on that till we
[20:54] talk to Chris. Uh, Trumbo Energy Center
sanitary sewer that's [clears throat]
[21:00] » Yeah, that's that's same thing under the
EPA fuel.
[21:04] » We could probably combine them too,
couldn't we? Yeah, I mean it's it's the
[21:07] same thing. One plays into the other. I
mean, if we you know, we're saying they
[21:11] shouldn't be able to discharge into Mud
Creek and that they should have to
[21:14] follow our local or our rules and
regulations and discharge into our sewer
[21:19] rather than in Trumble County. So,
>> okay.
[21:23] » Okay. Any questions for Matt on that?
Item number
[21:28] » just for clarification, you want me to
remove number eight and all you guys
[21:33] okay?
>> Yeah, I'd say combine them. Yeah,
[21:35] combined. [clears throat]
>> Uh, item number nine, proposed Hikon
[21:40] Road waterline improvements.
[21:45] So,
I've circulated you guys this master
[21:49] funding agreement and I actually I spoke
to their uh attorney today uh as
[21:54] recently as today.
There there's two main issues. Um,
[22:00] so under this master funding agreement,
it's for the it's for the water line
[22:04] that they're going to fund as well as
traffic control lights um that they're
[22:10] going to fund.
The main issue is this 200,000 gall per
[22:15] day. They're telling me, "Well, if you
guys can only commit to 200,000 gallons
[22:20] per day, that's fine, but we don't want
there to be an exclusivity provision
[22:24] where we exclusively have to buy from
the village because if we have other
[22:28] tenants here on this in this facility
that have more water usage needs that we
[22:33] can't provide to them under this
contract, we need to be able to go to
[22:36] another source or remove the exclusivity
provision
[22:40] and we don't we don't put a cap in there
on how much you guys are going to
[22:44] provide, which nobody wants to do
because we don't know what their future
[22:46] water needs are. We can't overcommit to
something. So, what we were proposing
[22:51] when I was talking to her and I talked
to the mayor about this a little bit, we
[22:54] were thinking maybe some middle of the
road language where we will get we will
[23:00] provide exclusively up to 200,000
gallons per day. In the event that they
[23:05] need more and we refuse to provide it
with provide them with additional water,
[23:10] then
the exclusivity provision is removed for
[23:14] any excess amount above the 200,000.
However, in the event that down the road
[23:19] we're able to provide them more than
that 200,000, if there's a change in
[23:23] course, change in decision,
then we have the right basically the
[23:28] first option to to sell them the water
to sort of, you know,
[23:33] » regardless even if they were buying off
of Warren, it still has to go through a
[23:39] » right. Yeah. And and I've already
explained to them there's there's no
[23:42] contractually there's no right. I mean,
the city of Warren and the village would
[23:45] have to agree. correct
>> by you know the legislative authority
[23:48] would have to approve another contract
and everybody's on the same page with
[23:52] that at least the city of Warren and
Lordstown are based on the document
[23:55] trail and I've explained that to them
and I don't think that they were aware
[23:58] of that until a couple of months ago
because their lawyers are reaching out
[24:01] to me saying is this true can you give
me yeah here's a letter from the city of
[24:04] Warren acknowledging that the agreement
is terminated here's the contract
[24:08] showing it terminated when GM ceased
operations any water supplies on an
[24:12] informal basis that's not you know
there's no legal support for so they
[24:16] understand that.
Um but yeah, their concern is committing
[24:22] to ex, you know, agreeing that we're the
exclusive provider and at the same time
[24:26] agreeing to a cap. They're worried that
they could hamstring themselves. I mean,
[24:30] they have another tenant looking at the
facility and they don't even really know
[24:33] much about that tenant when I talk to
them, let alone what their water needs
[24:36] are or anything else. So, um,
>> with that being said, do they understand
[24:42] that Warren supplied General Motors
water prior to Lordstown Energy C
[24:48] Center's construction and then providing
2 and a half million gallons a day to
[24:53] Lordtown Energy Center. I don't know the
capacity of the Warren line, but General
[24:59] Motors left LAC come in. That line is
what feeds Lordtown Energy Center. The
[25:04] longer they delay the construction of
the line around the plant, the longer
[25:08] they may not have the water they need
for that future tenant. I just don't
[25:13] want them to be like unclear. LEC pulls
a triple or quadruple the amount of
[25:20] water that General Motors ever did at
its maximum.
[25:23] » Yeah.
>> So, they may not have the ability to get
[25:28] much more water regardless.
>> Yeah. Warren may not have the capacity
[25:32] either. And that is exactly why they
acknowledge that the General Motors
[25:36] contract and their commitment to that
site ended with when General Motors
[25:42] left.
>> Yeah.
[25:43] » So I don't I just want to be forthright
with Fox Con what whoever's over there,
[25:51] you know, this has went on for months
and if they need that water soon they
[25:56] held it up. I mean it's we're talking
about what we can provide. D can move
[26:01] water different directions, but
>> yeah, I see they're ready to go there
[26:04] because they got all the pipes on the
ground over there. All their water lines
[26:09] are all sitting there staged that
they're uh they're redoing the fire loop
[26:13] over there.
>> Yeah. Is that what they want?
[26:15] » I believe so. Yeah.
>> I I have told them that you try to
[26:19] explain with that loop going around. We
can supply from different both sides.
[26:25] anywhere coming down Todd Avenue if they
got a break from Warline they're done
[26:29] until
>> they're done. Yeah,
[26:30] » they're done. I have told them that.
>> But I stockp doesn't know that. Fox
[26:37] » I I can't answer that. I I was talking
to Foxcon. Correct. Where it went from
[26:42] there. I don't you said Sony was coming
in the next council meeting.
[26:47] » Next council meeting they said that what
is the name of it? suffering.
[26:53] » Yeah, they're coming. Sean
council,
[26:58] » I believe so. He's out of DC, right? I
believe it's Sean.
[27:01] » Yeah.
>> Yeah. The mayor and I spoke. So, this is
[27:04] the second component. So, there's
getting this paragraph rewarded is the
[27:08] only thing holding up at least, you
know, massaging the language of this
[27:11] agreement. But the other concern is that
just all of these data center rumors
[27:17] that we've been hearing and we've been
contacted by a company called DSG Group
[27:21] says we're hiring employees for the
Foxcon facility to build a data center.
[27:25] Um there was an article in the business
journal about a modular data center
[27:29] going in there last week. So there's
just everybody's telling us it's not a
[27:33] data center uh or everyone telling us it
is a data center except for Foxcon and
[27:38] SoftBank. And I talked to them again
today and I said listen I said I I told
[27:42] them about all the different rumors you
know everything that we were hearing
[27:47] they once again reiterated this is not
[clears throat]
[27:50] a full-scale data center this is a proof
of concept you know showroom to
[27:55] manufacture data center components and I
said you're not putting a full-scale
[27:59] data center they said no we are not we
we are sorry that this is you know
[28:02] getting so out of control with the
rumors um but I it's at the point where
[28:09] I talked to the mayor said somebody from
Soft Bank because we've only been
[28:11] talking to Foxcon. Soft Bank ultimately
[clears throat] funds the owner of the
[28:15] property and SoftBank and Foxcon is one
partner/tenant
[28:19] and um I said somebody from SoftBank
needs to come here and talk to council
[28:24] as a whole and talk to the public before
anybody makes a decision on the master
[28:28] funding agreement. And and I think
that's kind of the bigger break that
[28:31] we're hitting right now because we we
can't keep going off of well the
[28:35] engineer or the mayor or the solicitor
talked to this one person and this is
[28:38] what they said. I mean I think council
needs to hear as a whole. Um and so is
[28:44] the public so they can ask questions and
make a decision if if they really want
[28:47] to move forward with the agreement. So
um that's that's the bigger issue.
[28:52] Getting this, you know, this exclusivity
provision and everything reworked is the
[28:57] other issue. um you know but will that
help if we have a conversation with him
[29:04] or no because you're done lawyers?
>> I mean it it can't hurt but I from the
[29:09] lawyer's perspective they don't want to
say all right we'll agree to 200,000
[29:13] gallons per day and you guys are
exclusive provider because now they
[29:17] won't be able because now if they have a
tenant that that they have a ten that
[29:20] wants more I I get it. They just want to
be able to say, "I just don't want to
[29:25] create a back door down the road that
>> Warren could run."
[29:30] » Yeah. Without anybody saying it's okay.
>> I guess that would be my fear.
[29:35] » It would have to be based upon our
refusal to provide them anything more
[29:39] than 200,000. And then there would still
have to be approval and everything to
[29:43] run the to run the water line, but it
would it would have to be because we're
[29:46] telling them we're not going to provide
you guys with any with 200 thou more
[29:50] than 200,000 gallons per day. Okay.
Um, the other concern they had is they
[29:56] said, "Well, what if what if you guys
just start increasing the water rates?"
[30:00] And I explained, I said, "No." I said,
"The water rates are set by our rules
[30:02] and regulations, but the BPA approves it
across the board. They're not we don't
[30:06] charge, you know, higher rates based on
the type of business." I said, "Now,
[30:09] there are water service agreements,
which are an option, which would be, you
[30:13] know, a lower rate depending on volume,
but there's no requirement right now
[30:16] that we enter into that with them." But
they had concerns that we would just
[30:19] unilaterally jack up their rates too for
some reason.
[30:22] » We have one rate throughout the village
residential.
[30:25] We did have a decreasing tier, but no
matter where the source is, whether it's
[30:30] Niles Water or Warren Water, the
customer's rate is the same. We pay the
[30:36] the difference, you know,
>> and I I explain the rate's not going to
[30:40] be different for you just because of the
type of business. said the only way it
[30:44] would be different is if we had some
type of specific agreement with you
[30:46] guys, which would be subsequent to this
master funding agreement. But so I'm
[30:51] trying to work on language and
ultimately I mean you guys are going to
[30:54] have to decide what you want to
recommend for council and council's
[30:56] going to have to approve it. if you're
okay with this 200,000 cap and giving it
[31:01] as exclusivity and only in the event
that we refuse to provide them with any
[31:05] more water um can they go look for other
sources and then if we subsequently
[31:10] decide we are going to provide you with
more water that they would have to you
[31:13] know discontinue service from the city
of Warren but as of right now that's the
[31:18] language that we're looking at
>> I think that would be fine long as they
[31:23] don't get locked
>> they should you can't really stop them
[31:26] from doing business and we don't want to
say, "Well, you got to shut off because
[31:31] we can't give you the water." But you
have to go to the other source. I'm
[31:34] fine. But soon as we're able to, no
choice. You got to come back.
[31:39] » Yeah, I'm fine with that.
>> I'm okay with that. As as long as it's
[31:43] ironclad and we're protected, I'm I'm
good with
[31:46] » Yeah, me too.
>> Okay.
[31:48] » So, that's that and that's what they're
going to present to council. And could
[31:52] it be addressed by no matter what they
are our customer where we choose to pull
[31:57] their water supply from is our
discretion if we if we allowed a
[32:04] secondary connection until
>> correct. Yeah. They can't just go to war
[32:07] and say hey we want more water.
>> It's up Yeah. They just need to inform
[32:10] us of anticipated increased needs and as
the water line's being built if we do
[32:17] get that higher volume. It it's a mute
point. Okay.
[32:20] » With what we can supply, correct?
>> Well, there there there's a lot of
[32:24] things with that. One, you know, we got
to keep up with how both places are
[32:28] treating two. You can't turn one off and
turn the other one back on. That that
[32:32] that cannot happen. Okay? So, it's not
going to be that simple. Now, Foxcon
[32:37] came to us and said, "Hey, 142,000
right before. Can we do better?" Which I
[32:45] ran the numbers and did a lot better and
they're still not happy. So, I don't
[32:48] know. I I think they're not looking for
a number. They're looking for don't
[32:52] restrain us at all.
>> That they're looking for flexibility and
[32:55] options. Yeah.
>> I We can't do that right now till we get
[32:58] this other 24 in and make sure
everything's going fine. You know, we
[33:01] needed that 24. We need another tank. We
didn't get it. This is the situation
[33:05] we're in now. Just here recently, there
was another company that came to zoning
[33:10] and was asking about, "Hey, how about
over 200,000 more a day? Can we get
[33:15] that?"
So, we're still got new businesses plus
[33:18] businesses that are here. So, as far as
unlimited
[33:23] water for somebody, we we're not at
that. I I cannot let
[33:28] » Yeah. You can't promise it.
>> Can't get it.
[33:31] » You know, I mean, we we got other things
that we could run out real quick. I gave
[33:36] the example. Did you see the email,
Chris? Okay. The example was I got 45 ft
[33:41] in that tank right now. 2 and 1/2 hours
we lo we lose 5T. That's how fast. And
[33:46] it was taking over 15 hours to get that
5 ft back in. That's how much water we
[33:50] go through. According to AWWA, we should
have one day supply left over.
[33:57] We won't make that. We got a lot of
improvements to do. So, we need to be
[34:01] careful with these numbers. That's why I
couldn't go really any higher. I can't
[34:06] any emergency, any fire event or
whatever else. Now I I you know we're
[34:11] not going to make it
with normal day-to-day operations if we
[34:15] need to. We're we're we're getting that
close now.
[34:20] » Okay. Does that help?
>> It does. I So what I'll do is I'll
[34:24] finesse this language. Um I'm going to
circulate it back to the group.
[34:30] I'm sure they're going to have
additional changes, but I I don't think
[34:33] that anything's going in front nothing
should go in front of anyone until we
[34:36] have we've heard from um Soft Bank.
>> Yeah.
[34:39] » Because I I think that's important for
the BPA and council to be able to ask
[34:43] questions and the public um before we
move forward with this agreement.
[34:48] » Okay.
>> Can you guys be at the C next council
[34:50] meeting?
>> Stanley,
[34:53] » uh what date is that?
>> Uh be the first Monday in September.
[34:57] Correct.
Yeah, but that's Labor Day.
[35:01] » Labor Day
be the 8th. So it's the same day as ours
[35:05] actually, isn't it?
[35:10] » Yes.
>> Yeah, it's the same day as ours then.
[35:14] » So they just moved it Tuesday.
>> Wait a minute. No,
[35:17] » we we had talked about moving
>> September. No, you're right.
[35:21] » Yeah, Tuesday is the first
Tuesday.
[35:24] » Labor Day is the next week.
>> Yeah.
[35:26] » Yeah. I don't have I'll be around.
[35:30] Okay.
To a council meeting on the first.
[35:35] » No, council meetings on the 8th. Our
meeting next meeting is on the first.
[35:41] » Yeah, either date.
>> Okay.
[35:43] » Okay. Any more questions on that? Seeing
none, South Springs Road Booster Station
[35:49] relocation. there. Do you have any
updates on
[35:53] how that's going or
[35:59] » no? No real updates? No.
>> Okay.
[36:05] » Item number 11. I I do know Chris was
working on some stuff because I talked
[36:11] to him. I don't know if he talked to
you, Darren.
[36:13] » I have not talked to him. I I still need
to talk to to Cindy about that. We did
[36:18] find um three more grinders that when we
did have a lot of water, we're we're
[36:24] getting some in two or three. So, I
ordered more risers. Hopefully, that'll
[36:29] help. We're still waiting on that.
That's that's where I am. Like I say, he
[36:34] said he was going to send you some
stuff. I don't know if he did or not.
[36:38] » We did talk um before I was before I was
up on vacation. Um, and I don't believe
[36:45] he forwarded what we were talking about
at that time. Um, I went through my
[36:52] emails yesterday real quick, but I could
have missed it. I don't I don't I don't
[36:57] believe
>> he said he was going to send you an
[36:58] [clears throat] email and I didn't know
if he got to it or not.
[37:00] » Yeah, we talked um before I went on
vacation about the INI. Um,
[37:12] any questions?
[37:15] Any additional public comments?
[37:20] Okay, seeing none solicitors report. The
only thing I have is TC's attorney
[37:25] reached out to me about this um you know
their claim that they've been
[37:29] overcharged between the bulk rate and
the contract rate after they declared
[37:33] full commercial operation. Uh which was
like April 15th or April the middle of
[37:37] April. And so there's that 2 to 3 week
period between April and May that
[37:42] they're claiming they were overcharged.
They're claiming they were overcharged
[37:44] 242,000.
Um,
[37:49] I just I I guess I just more more or
less had questions as in terms of are we
[37:57] and I emailed Cindy about this too and I
So Cindy, are we
[38:02] are they were they being build at the
Warren contractual rate I guess during
[38:06] that last part of April? Do we know? And
here here's the breakdown. It says here
[38:11] that they think that the service water
agreement rate for us should be 440.
[38:15] Now, we have a 49% adder in our
contract, right?
[38:20] » We had a 49% adder when we entered into
the contract. Um, the contract states
[38:27] that if Warren increases their rate that
our adder or I don't think they call it
[38:34] an adder in this contract will also be
increased by the same number. Um, I
[38:39] spoke directly to uh Ted Harvey and I
showed him how to calculate that rate.
[38:44] um he
understood it and
[38:49] accepted that. Um as far as the credit,
I I told you the contract states that
[38:56] they they qualify, in my opinion, they
qualify for that rate once they reach
[39:04] full commercial operation, but they
failed to create a contact contract or
[39:10] permit
to complete the permit. they didn't come
[39:14] in. Then when they did come in, they
didn't come in with the deposit. So when
[39:18] as soon as they
started the permit process,
[39:25] we got a final uh a meter reading um
which Warren didn't allow us access to
[39:30] the day. It took one day more and then
but still before we received the deposit
[39:36] which should have been submitted with
the permit application,
[39:39] we transferred that account before we
had the deposit. Um I feel that we build
[39:44] it accordingly to the contract and they
want to dispute it. It says in there
[39:49] that they have to comply with the rules
and regulations
[39:53] and permit application with the deposit
is in the rules and regulations.
[39:57] » Yeah.
>> Yeah. Did Warren um that's I'm trying to
[40:02] Did Warren start charging us under the
contract rate in
[40:05] » Warren
>> cuz I know Warren I believe Warren's
[40:08] position [clears throat] is they
recognize you know commercial completion
[40:12] of commercial or or beginning of
commercial operations uh on the April as
[40:17] of April 15th. So, did they charge us
under the contract or they charge us?
[40:21] » If if Warren told you that, that is
contrary to what Warren I I met with
[40:27] Franco and
[40:32] um the billing clerk and Darren, what's
the other gentleman's name?
[40:36] » Dr. DJ
Ross. No,
[40:39] » Tom Ross. The three of us met in his
office and they said they cannot go back
[40:45] and
find that reading after the fact. They
[40:48] failed to notify them as well. Um we the
warrants rate for Lordstown Energy
[40:58] Center at the beginning I think it was
two
[41:03] 51. There's a two cent or a few cent
difference. Warren build us through that
[41:09] period at the higher rate, the other
rate in the contract, not the PEC rate.
[41:15] » Okay.
>> And I do I unless they go back and give
[41:18] me a credit, they build me at the other
rate for the May bill as well, the May
[41:24] usage.
>> Oh, really?
[41:27] I think it was 271 for others and 267
for
[41:31] » correct
>> TEC. That sounds
[41:33] » but based on a thousand galler
measurement. Yes.
[41:37] And so that few cent difference when we
received the bill and what we paid was
[41:42] based on that other customer rate, not
the TEC rate.
[41:49] » Okay. Did Warren ever start billing us
at the TEC rate?
[41:52] » I I do believe so.
>> Okay.
[41:54] » I could check that because maybe we
would have got in June, [clears throat]
[41:58] so that bill would come in in July. But
I do think
[42:03] » so. They never changed their billing to
the TEC contract rate until May.
[42:09] » Till June.
>> June.
[42:10] » Or June. Okay. All right. All right.
>> Okay.
[42:15] » And when I met with them, I believe I
could go back and look and see when I
[42:19] did meet with them, but I think I met
with them in May or at the beginning of
[42:24] June, and
the director very clearly stated that
[42:30] they didn't inform them either. And the
rate don't change until
[42:36] they
[42:39] we determined at that time of the
meeting that they were just starting to
[42:44] pull that 4 million gallons or to get up
to that full commercial operation.
[42:50] » Okay.
>> And that was another thing. Um
[42:56] » All right. Well, I just want to let you
guys know they're, you know, they're
[42:58] saying that we should have been build at
the the contract rate, not the bulk rate
[43:02] for those two weeks at the end of April,
asking for a $242,000 credit. I'll I'll
[43:08] just tell them, you know, that the rules
and regulations apply under our contract
[43:12] and the BPA, you know, isn't willing to
reconsider this, I guess. Does that
[43:16] work?
>> Yeah. Yeah. The ball's in their court
[43:20] cuz we followed our
>> Yeah, we follow we follow what we have
[43:23] in our rules.
All right.
[43:29] Anything else?
>> That's all I have. Any questions for
[43:32] Matt?
>> Uh, engineers report. I don't have
[43:35] anything ready to give you anything to
add. Okay. Uh, [clears throat] utility
[43:40] committee report.
[43:46] » I only have a few things. Um, in regards
I I mentioned it briefly upstairs is you
[43:52] have the
before you the Verdantis um
[44:00] professional service quote to update the
sore rate study. The sore rate study is
[44:07] up to date with the financial figures.
What is missing or I what I would like
[44:12] to have um checked on that is if our
funds that we're setting aside for the
[44:24] lift stations is appropriate for
the replacement.
[44:30] When we first started this I said, "Oh,
in 15 years they're going to start
[44:33] wiring down and and and Baron is seeing
that." But where are we at? You know, I
[44:40] want them to like kind of like analyze
those figures verse versus versus the
[44:45] potential cost. I don't think I did not
read their um scope of work. Like I
[44:52] said, I was off last week, so I got it.
Haven't read it thoroughly through
[44:56] there. But that is all I would request
for the sore rate study and to
[45:02] incorporate, you know, th those figures
in there. The water rate is a huge mess
[45:08] because of all the different contracts,
all the different purchase price rates.
[45:12] And was there TEC? Was there not going
to be TEC? Well, we do have TEC, but not
[45:18] on our water. So, so many things have
changed.
[45:21] » So many things have changed.
>> It's hard to go back and plug in the
[45:25] figure. And then the maintenance
building, you know, are we budgeting for
[45:29] a maintenance building? Are we not
budgeting for a maintenance building?
[45:31] And we still really don't have the
answer. Are we paying for a helic
[45:34] waterline expansion around
the General Motors complex? So, I do
[45:40] want it. I do think it's very important
that we move forward with that. I just
[45:44] think it maybe we could ask for them to
do that on an hourly um structure for
[45:50] what it actually takes to work. But, um
those those two items, like I said,
[45:57] sword needs a little bit of attention.
Water's going to need more, but I don't
[46:03] think we need lump sum work.
>> You guys okay with having city email
[46:07] back and say, "We'd like this to be on
an hourly basis, and please give us a
[46:12] dollar figure per hour."
>> Yes.
[46:16] » Okay.
>> Yeah, if you don't mind doing that,
[46:18] please.
>> Yeah, not a problem. The next thing I
[46:20] have is um we have a trash contract with
Republic Services and
[46:27] we are in year three or starting year
four the [clears throat] contract and
[46:32] there was a the first year after we
entered into the contract the wages
[46:37] should have been adjusted about 1%. And
they missed it and didn't increase it.
[46:42] So they wrote that off. it's in the past
and then last year was zero and now this
[46:49] year um because of the fuel prices
that's our variable in our contract our
[46:56] trash rate is going up um the new basic
service at the road will be $1970 a
[47:02] month um or 5911 a quarter if you rent
the cart it'll be 2220 a month or 6161 a
[47:11] quarter they do have a at the door
service for seniors or handicap or
[47:16] whatever people um that'll go to 2822 a
month. But the bag service where the
[47:23] customers can come in and purchase the
bags here and just put it out as needed
[47:28] will remain at $25 for 10 bags
and that is effective July 1. So some
[47:36] people have already been build for the
that period. Um but there's three
[47:40] different billing periods in our
community. So, they'll be prrated or
[47:45] maybe back build from July one. Um, for
that I met with curb before I went on
[47:51] vacation.
>> What was what was the curb service?
[47:54] » The curb the the door service or the
curb regular regular curb service
[48:00] without a container is $1970 a month.
[48:07] It's a total of 5911 a quarter. So, if
you have a container,
[48:15] that's the blue
>> the Yeah, the the cart, the 96gallon
[48:19] cart.
>> Yeah.
[48:20] » Like with one cart, I previously was
paying $63 a quarter and it's now
[48:27] 66.661. So, it went up $361
for 3 months, $120 a month.
[48:38] That's with the card.
>> With the [clears throat] card. Yeah.
[48:43] » So, I just wanted to let you know
sometimes we get questions. They'll
[48:46] primarily come through the office, but
if if you have any questions, I do have
[48:51] um that posted upstairs and I will get
it on um take it down to and through and
[48:59] have him put it on the website.
>> When's our contract up?
[49:04] » 2028. Anything
[49:09] [clears throat]
[49:14] else?
>> All these things going up because of
[49:17] gas.
>> When it comes back down,
[49:21] » Mhm.
>> is the rate going to come back down.
[49:23] » Yeah, it it gets it it would it
[clears throat]
[49:27] index every year. So, if it drops down
1% or even falls lower, it would be
[49:32] [clears throat] adjusted by that
percentage.
[49:35] Um, I don't think I have anything else.
I did want to clarify when you approved
[49:41] the meeting minutes, um, Darren had
asked for corrections. I forwarded the
[49:46] corrections to you, but only his
corrections, correct me if I'm wrong,
[49:51] were made in in the the new set of
minutes. So, you were approving the
[49:57] revised
>> revised Yes. minutes.
[50:00] » Correct. Okay. Yes.
Darren, you were happy with the
[50:05] the corrections.
>> I don't remember seeing them.
[50:11] » Okay,
[50:15] » we'll get them to you.
>> Yep.
[50:17] » Okay.
>> Email. You should have received them in
[50:20] your email.
[50:23] » I have them.
>> I can't answer that.
[50:28] » Just let us know. I just wanted to know
if they were approving the original set
[50:31] or
>> Yeah, I'm sorry. Yeah, we were
[50:32] approving.
>> It's okay.
[50:35] » Y any questions for Cindy?
>> Okay. Superintendent report
[50:43] the um call outs in the in the evenings.
Got a
[50:49] lot of emergency markings or power
outages or whatever else. A lot of times
[50:54] I I go see assess the situation or just
take care of it. But I take my own
[51:00] vehicle and it's it's happening quite a
bit. There's no lights. There's nothing
[51:04] on there. I'm wondering if I could take
the pickup home with me so that when I
[51:09] do have those calls, at least I have
lights and some tools with me and
[51:15] whatever I might need.
>> I don't have a problem.
[51:18] » Yeah, I don't have a problem.
>> I'm fine with that.
[51:20] » Yeah. Thank you.
Um, we talked about
[51:26] cleaning lift station one and two. We
had number three done already and that
[51:30] was with the warrant contract. Just an
update on that. Uh, they're still not
[51:35] sure. They're going to another boss and
then their law.
[51:40] So, just wanted to update you. We're
still waiting on on an answer if they
[51:44] could help us out with that or not.
uh a class for the for Ed and Mark
[51:51] Gorman Ruff. That's who has our lift
stations. They offer every year a
[51:56] pumping
class and electrical class. It's $120
[52:00] per person per class. I'd like to send
both of them to both those classes
[52:06] totaling $480.
>> I'll make a motion we approve the $480.
[52:12] Sir, all in
>> favor? I post motion pass.
[52:17] » Darren, you said Ed and who?
>> Edmark.
[52:24] » Uh, I I got I wasn't in this loop, but
the shore boxes that were talked about
[52:30] prior
a while ago. Okay.
[52:35] Uh, apparently Martin was supposed to
get some estimates, get it to you. You
[52:41] were supposed to have an answer. I don't
know. I was out of this loop.
[52:44] » Unless I I don't know if he ever gave me
the estimate.
[52:49] » I'd have to go back.
>> I don't know where it's at. I'm I'm
[52:51] being asked about it now and I I don't
I'm not sure either. So that's why I'm
[52:54] asking.
>> Can we approve the go and buy?
[52:56] » I thought we approved that.
>> You did.
[52:58] » Okay.
>> I'm almost positive he did.
[53:03] » Say that. I think we did. Yeah.
>> Were they not purchased?
[53:06] » I believe not. I I'm just finding out
about all this. Is it something maybe we
[53:10] approved and just it never got to was
Martin buying them? Maybe
[53:14] » I thought that that was a plan, but I
>> maybe Martin just didn't know.
[53:17] » I don't I don't know. When this whole
thing was being discussed, I I was off
[53:20] and then that move got started and it
was gone. So I
[53:24] » How did you say we did approve it? I
remember approving it now.
[53:27] » So yeah.
>> So So what's next? It's approved. Let
[53:31] » it was approved.
>> I think we had I a special meeting.
[53:34] » Yeah. for that or or meeting and we just
put that on there. Yeah,
[53:40] » absolutely.
>> I will I will check that out.
[53:42] » Yeah, I don't like I don't think you
were here for that.
[53:45] » Oh,
>> yeah. I think it was just shooting me.
[53:48] » Okay.
[53:52] Um we're draining the uh Bailey tank
right now. We started this afternoon.
[53:56] We're going to have a wash out on
Thursday. Uh everything went smooth so
[54:02] far with with draining it. Um, Stan,
especially you, if you notice anything
[54:06] different, you're getting that water,
give me a call,
[54:09] » okay?
>> Let me know. I think everything's going
[54:11] good. We'll have a wash out on Thursday.
So, late Thursday, we'll start refilling
[54:15] it. Friday, we'll be refilling it. But,
we're we're running on a pump right now.
[54:20] And I got to keep an eye on it. So, if
you guys hear anything, let me know.
[54:26] Okay.
[54:29] Uh, classes for the guys. I do know that
I've seen emails going out that they're
[54:36] posting classes, but they haven't posted
them yet. I I know they have more than
[54:41] just you guys in a class in this area. I
just have not seen the dates yet. And I
[54:46] told them, "Send me the dates so I can
let you guys know if we have to adjust
[54:50] that." They said, "Once they post the
dates, we can idea when that might be."
[54:54] » I'm hoping very soon, but they haven't
given up on it.
[54:56] » I don't want to start
>> Yeah. I don't want to start checking
[54:59] dates because they have so long to get
it done and we've been waiting a lot
[55:02] more.
>> Yeah, they bring
[55:05] » Yeah, the hold up was they were updating
some course material.
[55:08] » So that that's what the hold up was cuz
the EPA changed a couple of things. So
[55:11] that that's what the hold up was.
>> Okay.
[55:16] Uh MBSD had a notice of violation from
the EPA.
[55:21] They had a chemical feeder chlorine I
guess that was that malfunctioned. So
[55:27] for 15 minutes before they can get it
fixed again, it didn't feed correctly.
[55:31] So the detention time with their their
water disinfection,
[55:36] it it didn't meet DPA's standards on
there. So they
[55:42] had to notify us as we're their
customer. I had to notify everybody.
[55:48] Yesterday we sent out over 1,600
letters. We hand delivered to the
[55:53] businesses, places that wouldn't get it.
We got it posted here. here. It's on the
[55:57] website.
Uh, nothing wrong with the water.
[56:01] Everything's fine.
Um, I don't have a date when this will
[56:06] go away. We got to have a post, I know,
for 7 days. I don't I think they took
[56:10] care of everything and it'll probably go
right away. But the letters are going to
[56:14] start hitting the residents. Have them
call me.
[56:18] It's not a problem. It's not a big deal.
Water's all good. But want to make you
[56:22] guys aware cuz you may start getting
phone calls, too. So, what was it? A
[56:25] chlorination issue that exactly quit
chlorinating or it it quit. The injector
[56:30] quit on it, right? So, they found out
they got it fixed. It was down for 15
[56:35] minutes, but
>> that's a lot of water.
[56:38] » Doesn't matter if you miss contact.
>> Exactly. That's So, that's what
[56:44] happened. But everything's fine and they
they fixed it, corrected it. I'm just
[56:48] letting you know that a lot of letters
all the letters went out to all the
[56:50] residents. So,
>> be be ready for that. Well, you would
[56:54] notice something in your testing anyhow
when you
[56:57] » Yes. Yeah. Well, the EPA would have too
cuz they got notified right away. Um,
[57:02] and they would have done testing
correct there. They wouldn't even gave
[57:07] us any water if there was a problem.
>> Yeah.
[57:09] » Yeah. So, it would have been stopped
actually there, but you're correct. I I
[57:13] probably would have noticed a little bit
difference. We're we're good. According
[57:16] to EPA, MVSD, and L testings that I'm
doing, there hasn't been an issue. So,
[57:26] Hopefully next meeting can we do
interviews? Can we just put it on the
[57:30] agenda in case I get make that happen?
I'm good with it for our opening.
[57:34] » That's fine. Good.
>> That's all I had.
[57:37] » Okay. Any questions for Darren?
>> Okay.
[57:42] Seeing none, any member comments? Yeah.
Uh where are we with the relocation of
[57:48] the master meter for uh
[57:57] are they moving forward with anything or
>> master meter for the
[58:00] » not master meter
>> the booster station?
[58:03] » Yeah.
>> Um
[58:05] you said you didn't really have any
updates.
[58:09] » The only thing I thought was hanging Did
he ever get that? Wasn't there still a
[58:14] car or something in there?
>> It looks like there's actually an
[58:18] esavator over there now.
>> Oh yeah. So,
[58:20] » as I said, the picture
I don't know the the parcel goes back
[58:26] and then it cuts in and like has so
where it cuts in maybe it's on that cut
[58:33] in to the property, you know, that
belongs to the property north. But
[58:38] until, as I said, until they set those
pins in and check that, I don't want it
[58:43] I didn't want it to be an obstacle when
they went to get over there and start
[58:48] working because we got to keep things
moving.
[58:51] » Well, really, my question was was are we
good with the $200,000?
[58:59] » The $200,000 we already received. I will
have to do a report once we we
[59:06] [clears throat] have expenses against
the booster pump station already. The
[59:10] question there is what expenses
qualify
[59:15] to use that 200,000. I reached out to
Turbo County, but I have not got a
[59:20] response back. So
my intention is is to reach out to the
[59:27] loan specialist at Berdantis she that
I'm working with on the that project and
[59:33] the other project now and maybe she
would be able to answer that cuz I have
[59:38] the grant, you know, the paperwork. I
just don't know what the sections blah
[59:43] blah blah. I don't know what those mean.
Um and for me to research it would take
[59:46] a long time where she just might know,
>> yeah,
[59:49] » here's my list of what I've spent.
Here's what they say. What can what
[59:54] would apply to that?
>> And I do know last thing I heard on the
[1:00:00] project is that they were going to be
coordinating a pre-construction meeting
[1:00:04] and then the contractor anticipated
starting August 24th.
[1:00:10] » It it gave us uh I don't I don't
remember the date on there. It wasn't
[1:00:14] too far off. It was a um we hope to have
this timeline right here. We did have a
[1:00:19] meeting with him. There's nothing
physically that I know that you can see
[1:00:24] has been done. I've talked to him. The
Bernanz representative, he's been in
[1:00:28] here. I've I've met with uh the
generator guy down there. So, things are
[1:00:33] going on behind the scene, if you will.
You're not going to see anything yet. I
[1:00:37] don't know about I haven't heard when
the meeting is, but they do attend.
[1:00:41] » Chris said that they're going to have
surveyors come in and put put uh markers
[1:00:48] I I I hope they still do that. I I think
there that
[1:00:51] » Yeah, that's what he said he was going
to do last week.
[1:00:53] » Yeah, I can ask if he's
>> I I haven't seen Mike if I haven't been
[1:00:57] on the property. I I I don't know if
that that may have happened. I I'm not
[1:01:00] sure.
>> I just wonder if you pass it. It looks
[1:01:03] like they haven't done anything. Like he
said, there's
[1:01:08] there's a earth mover and a semi way
back. I think it would be off our
[1:01:14] property. Either way, it wouldn't
interfer what they're going to do. But
[1:01:18] still needs to go.
>> Yeah.
[1:01:23] » It shouldn't take long for any funds to
go out cuz once the contract's awarded
[1:01:27] to whoever's going to do the
construction, there's a big down payment
[1:01:30] is going to go out with it. So, the
money shouldn't be a problem spending
[1:01:34] that money.
>> I'm with And I mean, are we checking to
[1:01:38] see if the funds can be used to
reimburse the village for buying the
[1:01:41] real estate as well?
>> That's one of our expenses. Okay.
[1:01:45] » Um, we just don't know if that expense
qualifies for ARPA,
[1:01:49] » the use of ARPA money.
>> Um, the projects over $600,000. ARPA was
[1:01:55] 200,000. So, but we've also spent
>> really close to $200,000 already.
[1:02:03] » It's just if it qualifies for I can't
put it on there and then, well, you
[1:02:07] know, that didn't qualify.
>> Yeah. Wasn't the engineering part of
[1:02:11] that, too? we were able to use that
[clears throat] 200,000 for the
[1:02:15] engineering.
>> The catch there with the engineering is
[1:02:20] they had designed it prior to the award
of receiving that money. Sometimes some
[1:02:30] things qualify for that, some things do
not. So when we got to ARC money which
[1:02:36] was a time a while back I I think we
needed to have
[1:02:40] » but it was already designed. Yeah. Yeah.
They had done all that work before.
[1:02:43] » That's one of those questions. Can I or
can't I? We spent money and by September
[1:02:50] you know 30th in two more months we'll
have spent more money. Um
[1:02:55] but that I just need to push all that we
can against the ARPA paperwork. Um, and
[1:03:05] like I said, we're I think the last time
I did it was like $180 some thousand
[1:03:10] that we already spent on that project.
Um,
[1:03:12] » Wow.
[1:03:15] » Yeah. I know Chris said that we would
could use the engineering against that.
[1:03:22] » Mhm.
>> Yeah. Any cost going forward, I think,
[1:03:25] is what he meant.
>> Yeah. I don't know about the design.
[1:03:28] » I don't know about the design.
>> Timing's everything with that. Yes.
[1:03:31] » Yeah.
Okay.
[1:03:34] » The I believe Phyllis Dunlap um is the
woman I speak with at Verdantis and I
[1:03:42] think she would be able to assist
>> assist you. [clears throat]
[1:03:47] Any more member comments?
Seeing none, no quarterly approval of
[1:03:52] building adjustments. Motion to adjurnn.
>> So move.
[1:03:56] » Second.
>> All in favor?
[1:03:58] » I opposed. Motion passes.
Have a good night everyone. You too.