[0:06] So 31. So we can go ahead and start. [0:14] Welcome [0:16] everybody [0:19] on April 7. April today. [0:25] Um so it's calling the meeting to order. [0:29] and Jamie can establish form. I will. [0:34] Commissioner Dix, [0:36] Commissioner Trapnel, present. [0:38] Commissioner Buck Holtz here. Chair [0:40] Olsen, uh, Vice Chair Olsson here, and [0:44] Commissioner Gallagher Thompson here. We [0:46] do have a quorum of five commissioners [0:48] present. Thank you. Can you please stand [0:51] for the pledge of allegiance? [0:58] I pledge allegiance to the flag of the [1:01] United States of America and to the [1:03] republic for which it stands. One nation [1:07] under God, indivisible, with liberty and [1:10] justice for [1:17] all. Here for public comments are items [1:22] on the agenda. [1:24] Please step forward and introduce [1:25] yourself and we look forward to what you [1:27] have to say. Hello, I'm [1:33] uh we can Yes. [1:45] I'm a longterm resident of Los [1:48] Altos and I'm currently a director of a [1:51] group called Resilient Los Altos and I [1:53] think we have some common threads [1:55] together that I'd like to express and [1:57] maybe at some point have future [1:58] discussion. So, I'm not going to try and [2:00] talk about anything that's on the [2:01] agenda. Uh, but just to to get you aware [2:04] of who we are and what we're what we're [2:06] trying to do. uh resilient Los Altos is [2:08] an arm of the Los Alps Mountain View [2:10] Community Foundation and we get our [2:12] funding from uh various sources mostly [2:15] in the city of Los Alus but we also get [2:17] from Rotary and from uh and from the [2:20] foundation and there are about 300 of us [2:23] that are active in in Los [2:26] Al groups called block action teams [2:29] which cover about 25% of the [2:31] neighborhoods in Los Angeles uh and [2:33] community emergency response team [2:36] members who searchs. We'll have been [2:38] trained to a FEMA uh class schedule to [2:41] be able to do disaster medicine, uh [2:44] light search and rescue, uh uh building [2:48] assessment, uh all those sorts of [2:49] things. So that we are one of the people [2:51] who will go out in the community after a [2:53] significant event and be able to give [2:55] back to the city where the problems are [2:58] and where the problems aren't, where [3:00] they aren't as just as valuable as what [3:02] they are, so they don't have to allocate [3:03] scarce resources. So, we're uh we're [3:07] really involved in emergency [3:08] preparation. So, talking about being [3:10] prepared for power outages and [3:12] earthquakes and fires and all those [3:14] sorts of things. Um and I've had a a [3:18] couple of opportunities to speak for the [3:20] city. Uh we just recently had study [3:22] session with the city council where we [3:25] talked about fire more conflation which [3:28] is the sorts of things that happen in [3:30] the evening fire and what we can do [3:32] about whether Los Angeles was [3:35] for dealing with that nature is not [3:37] really, but it's also a pretty low risk. [3:39] So, it's not a reportable. What I [3:41] personally been working on for the last [3:43] couple years is trying to figure out how [3:44] to make our seniors more safe uh in this [3:47] community. Uh one of the stats, the [3:50] statistics that came out of the Eden [3:51] fire was 75% of the people who died in [3:54] the Eden fire were over 65 years old. [3:57] uh there's clearly not the demographics [3:59] of that area, but uh seniors have a [4:02] really hard time uh getting out of their [4:04] house and getting out of the way. So you [4:06] have a situation like Paradise or [4:08] Mountain Grove or Eaton or any of these [4:11] mass casualty situations, uh seniors do [4:14] terribly in that situation. [4:17] Um, in some cases where we have a block [4:20] action team, our block action teams know [4:22] who all the seniors are and they know [4:23] which ones are fragile or which ones are uh have other issues that would make [4:28] them part of the access and functional [4:31] needs community that we're trying to uh [4:33] support. I think we have an opportunity [4:35] through the things that some of the [4:37] things that you folks are doing uh to [4:40] share some of the things that we're [4:41] doing. So, for example, I see you're [4:43] doing a health fair of some sort coming [4:45] up later this year. We'd love to [4:47] participate if we can at some point. Um, [4:50] where what we really focus on are the [4:52] people who aren't being actively ser. [4:55] So, you've got active seniors who show [4:57] up there. There's 50 plus people that [4:59] come out, they play the ball, they all [5:02] sort of stuff. We're really worried [5:03] about the ones that are 90 years old. [5:06] Their caregiver lives in Modesto and [5:08] comes in, you know, two or three times a [5:10] week and they don't a neighborhood that [5:12] really is. Those are the people that [5:14] we're trying to serve. So, we've uh for [5:17] the last couple years we've been working [5:18] with communities down with the community [5:22] services agency of Mountain View in Los [5:24] Altos uh to provide uh emergency kits [5:27] and uh basically some some thought [5:31] process stuff, some psychological things [5:33] that people can do to get ready for [5:34] emergencies for people that they serve [5:36] who are typically uh property rich and [5:39] income. they've got a big house in Los [5:42] Altos and they and trying to live on [5:44] social security. So those are the folks [5:46] that are trying to get this information [5:48] to so that we can service that group [5:51] better than than they have in the [5:53] past. So I'd love to be um you don't [5:56] know much about us. I don't know much [5:58] about you. I read a couple of sets of [5:59] minutes and I think there are things [6:01] where we overlap. We'd love to to an [6:03] extent that there's [6:05] there'd to come talk to you or or be [6:08] engaged in some of the things that [6:09] you're doing. if that makes sense to [6:11] you. So, [6:13] reserving.org, you can either remember [6:16] my email address because I give it to [6:17] you or just go to [6:19] reserve.org and go connect or contact [6:22] me. All of those emails come to three [6:24] people. [6:30] Is there a branch for Los as well? So, [6:34] uh our uh our portfolio is Los Altos and [6:38] surrounding [6:40] So we're really active with Lasel [6:42] skills. Uh Laselus I we have different [6:45] things. Uh we have block action teams [6:48] doesn't we both have searchs and we both [6:49] have hands. So we're very close with [6:52] those groups. Uh I was meeting with a [6:54] gin incorporated area up on New York [6:57] just this morning about what we can do [6:58] for that. Um we had some activities in [7:01] Mountain View. So it's a we try to be uh [7:05] centrally in Los Angeles but [7:07] it's we we don't we don't make no [7:10] matter. [7:13] Is there a list that we know of seniors [7:16] that you said live [7:18] alone don't have somebody? [7:22] No that's exact that's problem number [7:24] one is finding because you walk up to [7:26] the door and they don't answer. They've [7:28] been told by the kids you know it's a [7:30] scam don't answer the door. are walking [7:32] up to the door and knocking on it [7:34] doesn't work a block action team then [7:36] they know who their neighbors are and [7:38] maybe they do but across threequarters [7:40] of Los Altos those people will not so we [7:44] can get voting roles so we can know you [7:46] know where all the people are over 65 [7:48] and uh but one of the things we're [7:50] thinking about doing is some sort of a [7:52] public private activity with the city [7:54] where we would actually have city uh [7:56] information going out to people to uh to [7:59] alert them we're trying to find [8:01] Now the problem after that is after you [8:03] found them and they opt in to get the [8:04] information is you can't overpromise uh [8:08] every you know there are I don't [8:11] know 5,000 8,000 people over 65 in the [8:15] city then it's it's big and you know if [8:18] they won't take care of themselves until [8:20] then which is what happens often is they [8:24] talk about the I'm going too long shut [8:27] me off [8:29] you have to get through [8:31] the three means of disaster. The first [8:33] one is denial, right? Oh, I've been [8:36] through a fire before. This is no big [8:38] deal. I don't have to worry about that [8:40] creek overflow once before. I don't have [8:41] to worry about a flood. Those sorts of [8:43] things. When you go through a period of [8:45] dithering where you say, "Well, okay, [8:47] before I actually go, I should make sure [8:50] that the next door neighbor's cat is fed [8:52] and I need to check on, you know, this [8:53] and that and make sure Amazon isn't even [8:56] delivered while I'm gone." Uh, [8:58] dithering. And finally, you make [9:00] decision and sometimes the decision is [9:03] hey everything's fine but sometimes the [9:06] decision is I should leave and at that [9:08] point if you're a senior you make too [9:11] late that's not you know what you do is [9:14] what I'm trying to do is get seniors to [9:16] understand what we're SEC and [9:19] Genesis what's happening in your [9:22] neighborhood in your zip code and that [9:24] you leave when the warning alert goes up [9:27] not the order to evacuate so we're [9:29] trying people ready to do their [9:33] best [9:36] questions. Thank you. Okay. Thank you [9:38] very much for the opportunity to talk to [9:40] you. So I invite you to stay because we [9:43] are talking about our um health fair and [9:49] in within the healthare we would have [9:52] vendors often talking regarding the [9:54] vendor. So that might be of interest to [9:57] see okay what is going on when and [10:03] okay very good thanks so much for your [10:06] time. Thank you very much for coming in. [10:08] We truly appreciate [10:09] it. We're up for items for consideration [10:13] and action which are the minutes from [10:16] last time. Everybody sure have their [10:20] opportunity to read them over. [10:23] I questions. [10:32] All right. So, thank you, girl. Thank [10:36] you, [10:39] M. [10:42] Yes. Second, and then all those in [10:44] favor. All those in favor? [10:49] Any oppos? Any opposed? Thank you. [10:54] extensions. Thank you. Number [10:57] two, right? [11:00] Marketing. Dam, were you going to go? [11:02] Oh, okay. [11:04] Yes. So, inside the uh packet is a [11:09] general overview of what I would [11:12] consider um the cities and parks and [11:14] recreations uh standard process for [11:17] marketing. Um and so specifically [11:21] highlighting this before we get into [11:23] some of the discussion on the health [11:26] fair so that um the commission can take [11:28] this into consideration as we look at um [11:32] how the commission may be able to [11:34] supplement what the city would normally [11:36] or standard um standardly do. Um the [11:40] first one is that we do post on our city [11:44] website and that includes um the rec [11:46] parks and recreation homepage um and any [11:50] specific program pages um that it would [11:52] relate to so that um the public would be [11:56] able to find the information easily. We [11:59] also include uh the second and third [12:01] bullet points. Both the city manager and [12:04] the parks and recreation department have [12:07] um e newswsletters that they send out. [12:10] The city managers is sent out on a [12:13] weekly basis. And for parks and [12:15] recreation, we have a monthly newsletter [12:18] that we send out. So information either [12:21] on programs or or events can be included [12:25] um and are usually included in those two [12:28] email newsletters. [12:30] We also have um our social media [12:33] accounts which includes Facebook and [12:35] Instagram in addition to Next Door. So [12:39] information about again programs and [12:41] events are usually incorporated um and [12:44] sent out via those channels as well. Um, [12:47] as you walk through the community [12:49] center, we have a number of TV monitors [12:53] which actively rotate information and so [12:56] um, flyers or information about programs [12:59] and events can be listed [13:02] there. So, uh, there are two located at [13:06] the front desk and then there's also [13:08] one, um, right next to the entrance near [13:11] the restrooms. Um and so those monitors [13:15] actively uh rotate [13:17] information. Um in addition and uh on [13:21] the site you will see when applicable [13:23] because there are some um programs and [13:25] events that we don't regularly do this [13:27] for but um some of our larger events uh [13:31] we do town crier ads and that includes [13:34] both printed um in the printed newspaper [13:37] in addition to their online edition as [13:40] well. Um and so we have those um [13:44] available um as avenues for marketing. [13:48] We also do flyers and we have a number [13:51] of flyer racks. There is the community [13:54] board outside and uh there are a number [13:56] of community um boards at a number of [14:00] our different recreation facilities. Uh [14:02] for example, the uh gyms that we have at [14:05] the middle schools, Egan and Block. Um [14:07] we also have a community board down at [14:10] Grant. So those are just examples of [14:13] places where we do put up posters and [14:15] flyers as well. Um posters, um as I [14:19] mentioned, uh larger versions of the [14:22] flyer. Um and then a-frame sandwich [14:25] boards. You will notice those um [14:27] sometimes at the in the front of the [14:29] community center. We utilize those [14:31] sometimes as directional um if people [14:34] need to be guided or directed to a [14:37] certain place or we use them as [14:39] marketing tools as well. So much larger [14:42] posters um they can be double-sided [14:45] because the A-frame has both sides. Um [14:48] so we have those that uh can be [14:51] available to market information. Um and [14:54] then our activity guide which is a very [14:58] useful tool. Um, we've done a number of [15:01] different uh production schedules, but [15:04] at the moment, um, I will just say this. [15:08] Um, the last one that we mailed out [15:12] prior to this spring and summer that you [15:14] probably got inside your mailbox. Um, [15:18] but the last one that we mailed out was [15:21] probably winter of [15:25] 2020. And then that's obviously during [15:28] the pandemic a lot of things slowed [15:30] down. We were not mailing out and so [15:33] this was the first one that we brought [15:35] back and we saw um an immediate um uh [15:39] just uh jump in registration the first [15:42] day. So, it was a very telltale sign to [15:47] staff that putting the information into [15:51] the um mailboxes of our residents really [15:54] helped get the information out. So, we [15:56] are doing um two activity guides a year. [15:59] So, that is spring and summer and then [16:01] fall and winter. Um they will be mailed [16:04] out. So, that is also an avenue. um if [16:07] you happen to thumb through the very [16:10] front of the activity guide is usually [16:12] where we highlight larger events and so [16:16] that is absolutely another um [16:18] opportunity to market the um information [16:22] going out. So um with that those are the [16:27] standard things that the city will [16:30] automatically do with the programs and [16:33] events um in the past. And just as an [16:36] example um if there are specific um [16:42] uh organizations or locations that uh [16:46] would be pertinent uh to have flyers or [16:49] posters. Um sometimes uh commissioners [16:52] have helped us to distribute information [16:55] in those areas. Um if you uh you know [16:59] any other places that have community [17:01] boards, those are um just examples of um [17:07] uh supplemental things that uh can be [17:09] helped to market information. So happy [17:12] to answer questions. Looks like there [17:14] are questions. I'll go this way. Um, so [17:16] I'll start with uh, Commissioner uh, [17:19] Valer Thompson. Yeah, thank you Jamie. [17:22] This is really helpful to understand [17:23] what it is that you already do and will [17:26] do. A couple of questions. One, you [17:29] already sort of answered, can we [17:30] distribute to other places like [17:32] churches, YMCA, that sort of thing. [17:34] Okay. But the more basic question is [17:37] what goes on these? What what is the [17:39] content and how's the content developed? [17:43] I'm assuming you folks develop the [17:45] content once things are more finalized. [17:48] Yes. Uh so two great questions. Um first [17:51] and foremost and I will just say this um [17:54] make sure we get approval to post or [17:58] leave information. Um I can't tell you [18:01] how many times um you know people will [18:04] just leave stacks or put things even [18:06] here at the community center just take [18:08] things up on windows. And so we always [18:11] want to get permission first before we [18:15] put information up. Um and then um the [18:19] second part in regards to content um the [18:22] staff will absolutely support creating [18:25] the content and that is mainly because [18:28] there are certain marketing standards [18:29] that um we as the city um branding [18:32] guidelines that we should follow. Um, [18:35] number one, making sure the city seal is [18:38] on the um the flyer or marketing [18:41] materials so that it is associated and [18:43] that this is a city um in uh city event [18:47] or program. And then um going down from [18:50] there, making sure that things are [18:51] legible, it has the correct date, has [18:54] the correct uh program information or [18:56] event information. So that content will [19:00] be based upon um the direction. So um as [19:04] you when we get further into the meeting [19:07] when you talk about you know maybe the [19:09] title um some of those things it will be [19:12] based upon the direction that is [19:14] provided by the commission. Thank you [19:17] very [19:25] much out [19:28] prior. Do we also make an effort to [19:31] write articles that they can publish for [19:35] example friendly [19:38] um you know certification? [19:46] Great question. Um and I will just say [19:48] it depends. Um, so usually the city can [19:53] sometimes do press releases and that [19:55] information will go out not only to our [19:57] local paper, the town crier, but some of [19:59] the other um local ones that are here. [20:02] Correct. Um, now that doesn't [20:06] necessarily guarantee that it um, you [20:09] know, it will turn into an article. [20:12] Occasionally um the town crier um [20:15] reporters themselves will reach out if [20:17] they um if there's a larger event and [20:20] they would like to feature. Um we do um [20:24] sub uh submit photos sometimes if [20:27] they're looking for information to put [20:30] um but it is not necessarily a guarantee [20:32] that they will run a story. But the ad [20:35] um obviously is something that exactly [20:39] so that we know exactly what and we [20:41] submit exactly what we want published. [20:45] Um so it is uh we usually do that and [20:48] then if the town crier does want they [20:51] will usually reach out um and obviously [20:53] the press release we will get the [20:55] information out to them as well too. [20:58] Thank you. I have a quick question. [21:01] Um, what is the time frame that we need [21:05] to submit any requests for marketing or [21:08] any material for marketing as our senior [21:11] commission? No, great question. Um, I [21:14] will just say our general rule of thumb [21:16] for our department, and this is, I would [21:19] say, true for any of our events or [21:22] programs is that we generally have [21:24] information out at least 30 days in [21:28] advance of when something is occurring. [21:30] If we can get it out earlier than that, [21:33] we will, but minimally, we like to give [21:36] the public at least um at least four [21:39] weeks. July is our time frame then, [21:42] correct? give you. Um and so again, if [21:46] information is available or finalized [21:48] earlier than that, we can absolutely do [21:50] that. But minimally um information [21:54] should be and so given that as an [21:57] example, the health fair is early [22:00] September. [22:01] um that we really should have [22:03] information and everything finalized in [22:06] July so that the Mar and on average we [22:10] would probably need about two to three [22:13] weeks for content creation. So creating [22:16] the flyers, the um the pieces that will [22:19] go on social media. Um if it needs to be [22:22] resized to an A-frame versus a poster [22:25] versus a flyer, um just so that there is [22:28] ample time for staff to work on that [22:30] content creation. Um so July should be [22:34] the time that everything should be [22:36] financed. [22:38] Yeah, that's awesome. Thank you. Um, so [22:42] for the fall winter, when does that for [22:47] that flyer? Not the flyer, but the Oh, [22:49] for the activity. Activity guide. When [22:51] does that information? [22:53] No, absolutely. And that time frame [22:56] would be the same. And so July, early [23:00] July is probably um which we have the [23:03] date and time. So the um if you notice [23:07] um in the activity guide the it's not a [23:11] full size 8 and 1 half by 11 flyer. Um [23:14] the ads that are usually in our activity [23:18] guide are quarter size. So it is very [23:21] pointed or specific information specific [23:24] to where when the time. So the date, the [23:30] time, and where it's going to be is [23:32] usually the bulk of the information that [23:34] is listed because of the size. So you're [23:37] not going to have the, you know, all of [23:40] the detail that will be on, you know, on [23:43] the web page. It'll be in the larger [23:45] flyer, the poster. Um, but all of that [23:49] at this point, we know the date, we know [23:52] the time, we know what's going to be [23:53] here. So theoretically all of those [23:57] pieces are already uh solidified. I [24:01] think I don't know what this is called [24:03] but it's 15 plus program regular [24:07] activities and featured and special. [24:10] Would that be absolutely it would be [24:16] yes. Any other questions? [24:24] I wonder [24:33] we write letters to the editor of [24:38] various [24:40] exe. Do we have a list of [24:45] um organizations that turn out not [24:49] to have letters to the editor? [24:54] Um absolutely. Um as far as letters to [24:57] the editor, um previous senior [25:00] commissioners, uh or as residents, you [25:03] could also do letters to the editor as [25:05] well, too. um just to let um the [25:08] community know about the events. Um you [25:12] could absolutely do that. Um that almost [25:15] sounds like a working group potentially. [25:18] Yes, a working pair [25:24] working [25:27] through for content. [25:32] Yes. Anybody else? Any other comments? [25:35] All [25:36] right. So then we can move on to number [25:39] three which is the senior [25:42] health [25:44] and put together the report and the [25:49] staff recommendation. And what I would [25:51] like to do with is actually change the [25:54] numbers up in the order um to have it [25:58] where we have talk about the event [26:01] layout first because that will lay out [26:05] to the speakers [26:08] um how many events and those type of [26:10] things and then you can go down the list [26:12] from [26:14] there. And so what I will also ask is [26:18] that we stay on top of the event layout. [26:21] And if we um have additional information [26:25] because there's a lot of decisions to be [26:28] made, we'll I'll make a note and then we [26:31] can talk about that after and put it [26:34] into working. [26:36] Yes. [26:37] Um to speak [26:41] out the [26:42] same schedule. No, she told about the [26:46] room layout. The room layout first [26:49] because and so is this about the room [26:52] layout? It is, but I want you to finish [26:54] first. So, um, so that's where I know [26:58] Jamie put out the map of what rooms that [27:02] currently are being held. Yeah. For RV. [27:06] And I think we have two separate ideas [27:10] for the different layout. So, do you [27:12] want to show talk show? I don't need [27:15] that. Can everybody hear me? Um, for the [27:20] remote, please use the microphone [27:23] for the remote. [27:28] Um, very well. So, uh, working pair of, [27:32] uh, Chris and myself, um, we met and [27:36] discussed this several times and, uh, [27:39] although our agenda was to talk about [27:43] vendors, we found that the layout of the [27:47] rooms was important for even figuring [27:50] out how to uh, find vendors, how to have [27:54] the vendors sit in what locations, and [27:58] how it would be most feasible for [27:59] everyone to be able to access that. And [28:02] so Chris and I have come up with two [28:06] different ideas and we really need the [28:08] commission's input on uh deciding that. [28:13] So the first idea is that this be the [28:17] main entrance [28:18] um of the health fair and people come in [28:22] from this door and we have this room [28:27] right in front as the starting point of [28:30] the vendors. I've been here for a book [28:33] fair before and for other events where [28:36] people have been using this room as [28:38] well. So if we have tables laid out, [28:41] people as soon as they enter can start [28:43] seeing vendors and if we have more than [28:46] this uh in terms the lobby yes I didn't [28:50] know the name. So the lobby and if we [28:53] have more vendors than fit into the [28:55] lobby that they would overflow into the [28:57] L-shaped corridor that goes towards the [29:00] restrooms. That's one idea. Second, the [29:05] ballroom that is available to us. The [29:07] rooms that are available are this one um [29:10] the opposite one the ballroom and the [29:14] garbage and the garbage is in the next [29:16] to the ballroom. Right. So I had thought [29:19] that the ballroom would be kept open and [29:23] ready because it's available at 11 when [29:25] the when the renter goes away. Um and at [29:30] that spot we create a place for panel [29:35] speakers or so and that remains a [29:38] socializing area and the area to listen [29:40] to speakers. So the the vendors would be [29:44] only in the lobby the L shape. Chris's [29:47] idea is different. Chris's idea is that [29:50] the vendors are all situated in the [29:54] ballroom and um uh there are speakers [29:59] here and [30:01] across. So would the senior commission [30:05] feel advice? So yes, if I missed out [30:08] something, can we pass it on please? [30:13] Thank you. That was a good summation. [30:16] what I am anticipating and having had [30:20] discussion with Jamie on this and she [30:21] can clarify when doing [30:25] um in the ballroom we have the access to [30:29] 20 to 30 different vendors being able to [30:32] set up there. They will have an hour [30:34] they can come in at 11. The event starts [30:37] at 12 uh with staff and having plenty of [30:42] staff to set the tables up. there'll be [30:44] plenty of time for the vendors to set up [30:45] and be ready for the public to come in. [30:49] Um, one [30:51] consideration [30:53] when regarding Oh, obviously. And then [30:56] for the speakers, you have two different [30:58] rooms for speakers. Not sure regarding [31:01] what room could could be used for. That [31:05] can be determined another time. But then [31:07] you have a nice small area for speakers [31:10] and a very intimate setting. So that way [31:13] they're right there. And in [31:17] addition with the vendors and the [31:21] um [31:23] idea, there will be it is not closed off [31:27] just for us. It will be open to the [31:30] public. So the lobby and the hallway [31:31] will be open to the public during this [31:33] time. [31:35] The number of tables that would be able [31:39] to fit in this area J would be [31:41] approximately [31:43] what? [31:44] Um it would be [31:47] small depending on the direction. So as [31:50] an example um the if um any of the [31:54] commissioners came out to our open house [31:57] um the grand oak is an enclosed and open [32:02] space. The lobby has furniture already [32:07] there. So, if you were here for our open [32:11] house event, all of that furniture had [32:14] to move to make space for vendors that [32:18] were located in the lobby. Um, for the [32:21] open house, that was the only thing. Um, [32:25] the whole center was specific to that [32:27] event. um during the health fair it [32:31] would not the community center would [32:33] still be open for other things going on. [32:36] So having um the vendors just located in [32:40] the hallway would be a little bit more [32:42] challenging. Um so it at least for setup [32:48] would be a little bit easier on staff if [32:51] it was specific to one particular [32:54] location. um also to this lobby space um [32:59] is slightly um more open um but we can [33:02] talk about um a little bit more um on [33:05] that um once we get to some of the other [33:08] um elements. Um but the space is a [33:11] little bit more limited in regards to [33:13] the hallway versus um the Grand Oak [33:16] which is um a little bit uh more [33:19] spacious especially if we are able to [33:22] open up the it's a beautiful day the um [33:25] doors to the courtyard can be um opened [33:28] out so there we can also incorporate a [33:30] little bit more of the outdoor space if [33:33] that is needed. Um so just for [33:35] consideration by the uh the commission [33:38] as you decide um what would make most [33:41] sense for the event. So are there any [33:44] numbers equivalent numbers of vendors [33:47] that it would be less than that maximum [33:49] um at least in regards to where they [33:52] could be located here. Um because the [33:55] law um it and the perfect example too is [34:00] um because you do have to look at um [34:05] paths of travel that you're not blocking [34:08] um entries or exits. So, um if you look [34:12] at that, um and I do have the map up on, [34:15] um the site as well. Um the lobby is not [34:20] quite as large and so that would limit [34:23] um the amount of um vendors that you [34:26] could have versus utilizing a space [34:34] like comment on that. A couple thoughts. [34:36] One was when Commissioner Con was here [34:40] last time. She said she would like to [34:42] she thought a good idea would be to have [34:44] blood pressure readings in the lobby and [34:46] she was going to contact public health [34:49] with approval contact public health [34:51] nurses from where she used to work in [34:54] order to set up blood pressure stations. [34:56] So her thought was to use the lobby for [34:58] that as well as to have the you know the [35:01] flow and to have the um the vendors in [35:05] the grand boat was something that our sub committee had been thinking was [35:11] going to happen because we were looking [35:13] at three rooms using three rooms for [35:16] speakers. So that would be three [35:21] simultaneously happening [35:23] simultaneously in those three separate [35:25] rooms. So we make use of all the [35:27] available space. So that's what [35:39] Dr. [35:44] um so much in the lobby. This is a [35:49] Tuesday. What is the amount of traffic? [35:55] It does vary. Um, and it does depend. [35:58] Um, in the um mid to afternoon um and if [36:03] you uh looked out earlier um we had a [36:06] number of tables where um individuals [36:09] were playing ma jang. Um we do have [36:12] individuals that are working on their [36:14] laptops. Um we sometimes um have [36:18] individuals working on group projects um [36:21] or having small meetings or just you [36:23] know enjoying and um relaxing in the [36:26] space. So it does vary um and it also [36:30] depends on what is going on. Um so uh in [36:34] the 12 to3 time frame um it that usually [36:38] is when we do see a number of people in [36:41] the lobby space. [36:44] So at least [36:47] um hospitable to visitors if they have [36:52] free range of movement. [36:55] Correct. Now for a special event um and [36:58] that is something in um for a variety of [37:01] elements. So it also um everything is [37:04] interconnected. So I think um if um if [37:09] the determination can be if the focus [37:12] and that will help the working group of [37:14] um uh Vice Chair Olsen and Commissioner [37:17] Dixit. If the focus is to have the [37:20] vendors in Grand Oak, then that would [37:24] give you kind of an upward ceiling of [37:26] you know 25 to 30 vendors that could fit [37:30] in that space if it is the direction of [37:32] the commission that you do want. [37:34] Although staff would not recommend to do [37:36] the lobby spaces in the hallways because [37:38] that would reduce the number of vendors [37:40] that you could have um and would affect [37:44] to your point um Commissioner Buckley [37:46] the general traffic that would be coming [37:48] to the center um then you would have [37:51] less um vendors that you could do um and [37:55] then that would be uh the direction that [37:57] the the working pair could then um work [38:00] on and outreach to the vendors. question [38:03] is the open space between the two wings [38:08] going to be open for [38:10] social action activities? [38:14] It absolutely will be. Um, so the space, [38:17] if you notice, um, and I'll [38:26] particard, but the area that we usually [38:29] designate is the area that's closest to [38:31] the Grand Oak. That is probably where [38:34] you want. Um I will just say this [38:37] because the um the playground is here [38:41] and that is a very popular site for [38:44] people to and there are public restrooms [38:47] that are here. You would not be able to [38:50] designate this whole area. So we usually [38:53] designate the area that is closest to [38:56] where the doors open um out from the [38:59] grand oak. Um, so that is but there's [39:03] absolutely access but it wouldn't [39:04] necessarily be just designated for the [39:07] event. So I understand that there are [39:11] different uses that will be needed. One [39:16] is a place for people to [39:21] socialize, a place to eat lunch. [39:29] um [39:31] the size of the rooms per [39:34] speaker. Um what is [39:38] capacity? How many people could be in [39:41] that room? So um other food for thought [39:44] and another of why staff is recommending [39:47] that the vendors go in Grand Oak is [39:50] because the lobby and hall spaces are [39:53] already set up with seating areas. So if [39:57] you take away that then that you would [40:00] have to create another space for people [40:03] to sit, chat, socialize, eat, those [40:07] types of things. If this space is [40:09] designated for the vendors, the these [40:13] areas. So there's bettes, there's the [40:16] tables, there's the benches in the [40:18] lobby. There are lots of four top tables [40:22] and chairs already. So those spaces [40:25] would absolutely be open to those that [40:28] are attending the event and they could [40:30] socialize in that way, sit down and rest [40:33] for a second, have their um their snacks [40:37] um for the event. Um and that would be [40:40] all through here. Um and then I'm sorry, [40:44] what was your other question? Um [40:46] Commissioner Buckle, see we're in the [40:48] room in Gotcha. Um so at the moment [40:52] again Grand Oak um again that will be [40:56] for vendors. Sequoia which is the space [40:58] we're in um that has um a general max [41:03] capacity and that's based on the number [41:05] of chairs um we can have about 48. We [41:09] could probably do a little bit more. Um [41:11] occupancy is a little bit higher than [41:13] that. Um this is the second largest [41:16] space that we have. Manzanita is the [41:19] other space that we have reserved for [41:21] the event and that is a maximum capacity [41:25] of [41:25] 36. And then the other space that we [41:28] have which is a similar size. It's [41:31] slightly um a slightly different shape [41:34] but apricot is also 36 as well. So we [41:38] have four or five rooms. [41:42] There is four rooms total that are um [41:46] reserved for the event and one big [41:49] correct um one large, one medium and two [41:53] small only because these are the two 36 [41:59] 48 and then Grand Oak which if you want [42:02] numbers wise theater style can go 220. [42:06] Thank you. Yeah. So commissioners, here [42:10] is what is my [42:13] dilemma. The intent of our health [42:17] fair I hope is not just measuring blood [42:21] pressure and looking at vendors. The [42:24] intent in my mind is to be educated [42:28] about uh senior [42:30] health. And for me that means having the [42:35] ability to have [42:37] speakers and the attention of everybody [42:41] who is coming to the healthcare at the [42:43] same time. Dividing speakers and having [42:46] them simultaneously essentially means [42:49] you're you lost onethird of the audience [42:51] to one room, one third to another, one [42:54] third to the third room. Instead, when [42:57] we first met and talked, we talked about [43:00] a panel and having a panel sitting [43:03] together in the ballroom with the [43:08] audience facing all three speakers or [43:11] all two speakers or one speaker and [43:14] everybody listening is the target of [43:18] otherwise how are we different from any [43:20] other [43:22] health pass or surv. [43:35] going back and forth with some committee [43:37] on topics and what we've come up with [43:40] are a large range of topics not one or [43:43] two topics that we can do a panel [43:47] or you [43:49] know we had a recent meeting with Amanda [43:53] who is the person organizing in [43:56] the health of the female and [44:01] also [44:06] recogn what what she thinks what makes [44:09] it successful. One of the things is that [44:11] they have listened to the community over [44:14] the years and they have kind of a list [44:16] of topics that they try to cover. So [44:18] between her and our group we put [44:21] together a list of 12 12 topics And [44:25] that's we don't have to do all 12. But [44:28] if you use the three rooms, the smaller [44:31] rooms that are [44:33] available, you could have um a maximum [44:37] of [44:45] 30 in 30 each in two rooms. Three [44:48] different talks in each of the three [44:50] rooms. So you could have a maximum of [44:52] nine presentations in the time [44:54] available. So it's a different model. [44:57] Yeah. You [44:58] know bites of you know short he [45:02] recommended also short times 30 minutes [45:05] no more than 30 [45:10] minutes and by that time people are you [45:14] know antsy. They want to get up they [45:15] want to move. They want to go to the [45:17] next thing. So she recommended 30 [45:19] minutes speaking, 20 minutes Q&A and a [45:24] time for getting from one room to the [45:27] next. That way you could get [45:42] about which layout you would prefer for [45:47] this. That's what we're talking about [45:48] right now is the layout [45:51] and the choices are the lobby lobby [45:55] versus the [45:58] um are you ready? Okay. So, do I have a [46:02] motion? Here we just [46:04] vote vote on whether using the room for [46:09] vendors and the other rooms for speakers [46:12] or utilizing the lobby for vendors and [46:16] the room for speakers. So we could um [46:20] ask the commission who prefers um [46:23] utilizing the grand oak space for the [46:25] bankers. [46:32] And you would prefer the lobby space. [46:35] or any other space except I don't even mind if you have [46:39] vendors here. Okay. So not the grand [46:42] oak. Not the grand oak. But however, [46:45] whatever the commission decides, I will [46:47] vote. Okay. So we we've taken the vote [46:51] for one. No abstain. So we will go with [46:55] the grand o as the vendor. Okay. [46:58] And at this juncture, may I make one [47:01] request [47:02] also? [47:07] Um, before I get out of the loop, I [47:10] would like to make a request that [47:12] I be one of the people who can work with [47:15] the staff to help with the flow on the [47:19] day of the event. If uh I can [47:24] volunteer if there is such a [47:35] space here. [47:38] So we'll put that on working. Yes, [47:40] please. Thank you both. [47:44] Thank you for that request. So I will [47:45] put that on working affairs for the [47:48] flow. Yeah. and we will get to that. Um [47:52] so now prioritize the presentation [47:57] topics. Um [48:01] and with that um there are two um sub ad [48:05] hoc subcommittee reports um that were in [48:08] the packet. Um and so um Commissioner [48:11] Gallagher Thompson or Commissioner Buck [48:13] Holtz if you wanted to um summarize or [48:18] provide context um in that regard. Uh [48:21] Commissioner Gallagher Thompson you did [48:23] a little bit of background with your [48:25] meeting um with Amanda from Certino. [48:29] Then if there's anything else you wanted [48:30] to add. Well, she did strongly recommend [48:34] public including public safety and so [48:36] she recommended the fire department, the [48:38] police department and the search teams. [48:41] So I didn't realize it works out those [48:43] kind of over over rules [48:47] or supervises the search teams. Yes. [48:50] Yeah. So, so she recommended that also [48:53] evolving technology and topics that we [48:55] had not thought about before in this [49:01] subsur we hadn't thought of those we had [49:04] thought more health related but her [49:08] point was well these are very important [49:09] for health public safety [49:12] what how to make your house safe for the [49:15] fire department how do you when to call [49:18] 911 what do you do or first responders [49:21] code you get very practical information [49:23] with search teams. So how resilient [49:25] looks also how does that work? um and [49:28] we're involving technology because we're [49:30] always in a big hack, right? So, how do [49:33] you feel [49:35] about resources? So, it was an [49:38] interesting discussion. I tried to [49:40] listed all [49:42] 12 ones that we had talked about that [49:45] were more obviously held focus and these [49:48] additional [49:50] ones are [49:52] topics. Thank you. [49:58] I'd like to put this particular event in [50:01] context of knowing that we will be [50:05] having multiple events over the coming [50:08] year and year so that it will be [50:12] impossible to put everything into one [50:17] day. So I'm looking at the style of [50:21] presentation of education [50:26] um to make this a I'll use the word [50:31] dignified [50:33] possibly not precise but the kind of [50:38] speakers I was imagining would be those [50:42] who are well known in the community as [50:45] experts in their [50:49] in individual calling of uh my peer [50:55] rooms, the areas that are most often [50:59] mentioned as really what am I going to [51:04] do about [51:05] this? Uh are the mental acuity issues [51:11] whether they be dementia or uh [51:14] depression uh or what's it called? MCI, [51:18] minimum cognitive impairment, which I [51:22] think I said [51:25] um and so [51:29] for I've organized a bunch of such [51:35] events and having a talk by someone who [51:40] really knows what they're doing and it's [51:41] going to [51:42] cover a multiple level of [51:46] issues in that particular topic. 25 [51:51] minutes is just about [51:54] minimum with a quarter hour than per [51:59] Q&A. So that adds up to one hour per [52:06] speaker. Undecided is whether this would [52:11] be sequential [52:13] speakers or [52:17] continuously. The concept of [52:20] a panel [52:24] discussion is something I would imagine [52:27] would follow [52:30] the presentation from the teachers and [52:35] these would be the people who would be [52:37] requested to speak are going to be [52:39] teachers. Um [52:43] so that [52:46] discussion. I think should include [52:50] uh people who [52:53] are just have experienced some of these [52:57] challenges so that they know how they [53:00] have um addressed them, the problems [53:03] that they had, uh the solutions that [53:06] they found. [53:08] So this would be a open to the [53:12] public kind of [53:16] um which then if I do my math [53:21] correctly would be like the third [53:25] hour again it's not going to be a total [53:28] hour because of the moving around such u [53:33] but it would be something that would [53:36] involve the [53:38] public to be active. And I think that if [53:43] we want simply to um [53:49] present [53:50] information, we can do that with a [53:54] video. You can do it uh in many [53:57] different ways. If you want people to [54:00] have an opportunity to make [54:03] decisions about what they're going to do [54:05] about the [54:06] house, they need to process them and be [54:10] able to talk even among [54:13] themselves. So I think times and a [54:16] location for people to talk to each [54:19] other and that would be particular [54:22] particularly in the area. [54:26] it's going to make element the kind of [54:28] things that we need to address next time [54:31] we [54:33] have. So I think that all of the issues [54:36] that you presented are worthy of a a [54:41] very strong [54:44] presentation. I don't think for the [54:47] first off we can do more than at least [54:53] have teaching level [54:58] speakers at 45 minutes each and then a [55:02] panel of x amount of time. [55:06] But my picture of the timing of the [55:10] events [55:12] um it's very different I think from what [55:15] you imagine. I'm looking at um my [55:19] experience of putting [55:22] on over 35 years of [55:25] practice uh a lot of programs and I have [55:28] a sense of the [55:31] rhythm. Thank you for being [55:36] So I appreciate what you're saying and I [55:40] agree that there are two very different [55:43] proposals here. [55:45] So the more of the you know more in [55:48] depth what you're suggesting to read and [55:52] then kind of overview hitting on a [55:55] number of topics not in any great detail [55:58] but giving giving a introduction to a [56:01] number of different topics and hopefully [56:04] then following up with the various other [56:07] venues and resources that we have to be [56:10] able to take to go into more depth like [56:13] the seniors and other things [56:15] that that your department for the rest [56:17] of the year. [56:19] So, um the reason [56:22] I'm holding really promoting this idea [56:26] even though it had not been my original [56:32] ide with with Bill on that but the [56:35] reason I'm not at this point is because [56:37] this is a health fair not an academic [56:40] setting. We're not we're not we're [56:42] talking to community members who have [56:46] different levels of education, knowledge [56:48] about health, different degree of [56:51] exposure to all of these topics. Um [56:54] though I think we need to be cognizant [56:57] of our audience and I think for the [57:00] purposes of the audience that we're [57:02] trying to reach uh we will be better off [57:05] with a variety of topics that are [57:08] covered in a short period of time [57:11] developing interesting people's [57:13] appetites. Then we could get a survey of [57:16] what they would like to go into in more [57:18] detail and then use that as a use this [57:21] as kind of a springboard for setting up [57:24] the future um box that we build that [57:28] would do exactly what Bill wants to do [57:30] going on particular. [57:33] So I don't think it's an either [57:37] or [57:50] just I also think that we have to think [57:54] of who the audience is. The [57:58] audience according to Amanda according [58:00] to in the past will be two to 300 people [58:03] and that'll be over the course of three [58:05] hours. And so capturing people, giving [58:09] them an opportunity to get the [58:11] information, opt in and get uh the [58:14] topics that they want and then be able [58:18] to have access to the resources or be [58:22] able to ask the person afterwards for [58:24] their individual. It's one where we are [58:28] just tapping into our community. We [58:31] don't know specifically what they want [58:34] and each of us has our an individual [58:36] idea of what we want. And um I think [58:40] this is a great way for us to get out [58:43] there kind of cast our net, get feedback [58:49] from this particular event and then be [58:51] able to go into more of an academic or [58:55] go or have those speakers specifically [58:58] and come for the adult 50 time during a [59:02] lunch or during an evening. And is like [59:06] we talked about a speaker event and so I [59:10] think this is a great way to cast our [59:13] net find out what [59:14] our what our community wants and needs [59:18] and um make it a success and make it [59:22] easy for people to gather information [59:25] and then ask questions. [59:30] Um I think that at some point we have [59:34] been signed [59:36] Is this going to be focused on [59:40] education and specific ways that people [59:45] learn or is it going to be a [59:52] um [59:53] multiplechoice [59:56] questions? [59:58] Um I have a preference and do have a [1:00:01] preference also for us. [1:00:05] Um I'm happy to have a vote from the [1:00:10] council members of how they see the [1:00:13] initial event but we also have to move [1:00:16] on and decide. So yeah, if you want Yes, [1:00:21] I want to say that. But [1:00:23] um the one thing that comes up to my [1:00:27] mind is that several of the topics that [1:00:30] are listed here are already being [1:00:33] discussed at different events at the [1:00:36] community center itself. fall prevention [1:00:39] happens. [1:00:42] Um stay connected, public safety, fire [1:00:46] department, all of these evolving [1:00:48] technology happen several times during [1:00:50] the year for members of the public who [1:00:54] come to the center as well as the adult [1:00:57] 50 plus. So I am for want of or lack of [1:01:04] having broad my broad width of [1:01:06] experience. I am still very much in [1:01:09] favor of having two [1:01:11] topics experienced teachers or educa uh [1:01:15] you know research faculty department [1:01:17] chairs from Stanford or somewhere else [1:01:19] and two topics only having a dedicated [1:01:23] audience and go from there but as I said [1:01:29] before well it's called the fair it's [1:01:32] not a seminar so I'm go with [1:01:37] that are of interest and cover the [1:01:40] basics and then maybe schedule some [1:01:44] things in 50 plus talks. I mean I know [1:01:48] those talks they've had an AI talk [1:01:50] already. [1:01:51] So and we're going to [1:01:59] depending I don't know maybe five or so [1:02:02] things to focus on. We don't have a [1:02:05] survey so we don't know what people [1:02:07] would like to hear. So we just use our [1:02:12] own experience. [1:02:17] So, it sounds like our options are [1:02:19] you're wanting a couple in the [1:02:22] panel. You're [1:02:24] wanting another option is to have a [1:02:27] number of speakers in the different [1:02:30] rooms to cover a number of different [1:02:32] topics that would appease the [1:02:35] broader [1:02:37] population this round. Is that correct? [1:02:40] Did I have both [1:02:42] options? Are we ready to vote? [1:02:47] Okay. All those in favor of having um [1:02:52] two speakers. Is that right? Or two. [1:02:56] How many did you want? What was your I [1:02:59] was thinking just two topics. I was [1:03:02] thinking of more speakers. More [1:03:04] speakers. Okay. Having a couple of [1:03:06] speakers like two speakers and a panel. [1:03:10] Uh please vote if you would like that. [1:03:14] And then for multiple [1:03:18] speakers, multiple speakers [1:03:22] uh is needed. [1:03:26] And so looks like for our initial we [1:03:29] will go with multiple speakers. [1:03:33] Thank you very much everybody for your [1:03:35] input. And [1:03:38] my one suggestion um vice chair Olsen is [1:03:41] um and this is to help um the ad hoc [1:03:45] subcommittee. So I know the kind of [1:03:48] majority today is going towards um bites [1:03:52] of multiple topics. My suggestion when I [1:03:56] met with the ad hoc subcommittee is that [1:04:00] we [1:04:01] prioritize the um topics because [1:04:05] um selecting uh speakers. Let's say that [1:04:09] the particular person is um and maybe [1:04:12] there are multiple options that can [1:04:15] speak on a particular topic. But if that [1:04:18] particular person or the individuals [1:04:20] that you reach out to are not available [1:04:22] by prioritizing those topics um we we [1:04:26] the ad hoc subcommittee can though then [1:04:29] systematically go through those and then [1:04:32] we can you know easily go through that [1:04:35] and not have to slow down so that the [1:04:38] commission can weigh in on what are the [1:04:40] top priorities [1:04:42] um of the topics that we really want at [1:04:45] the event. Could you remind me who? [1:04:51] Yes. So, uh, the ad hoc subcommittee is, [1:04:55] uh, yourself, Commissioner Buck Holtz, [1:04:57] uh, Commissioner Gallagher Thompson, and [1:04:59] Commissioner Besi, who is, uh, not here [1:05:02] today, um, who is absent. We do have a [1:05:05] number of working pairs. Um but that is [1:05:09] um throughout this um it seems that the [1:05:12] ad hoc uh subcommittee wanted to really [1:05:16] focus on the presentation piece of it [1:05:18] and then we've assigned working pairs on [1:05:21] the specific task like reaching out to [1:05:24] vendors like doing um maybe working with [1:05:27] staff on the layout. So um the ad hoc [1:05:30] subcommittee that I'm referencing is [1:05:32] yourself um Commissioner Gallagher [1:05:34] Thompson and Commissioner Biji [1:05:44] uh potentially but at least at this [1:05:47] moment in time um I think it would be [1:05:49] and um uh Commissioner Gallagher [1:05:53] Thompson did um based upon the meeting [1:05:55] with um Certino the individual that is [1:05:59] organizing that was um suggestions. We [1:06:04] do not have to just go with this if [1:06:06] there are other topics that would be of [1:06:08] interest, but I do highly recommend that [1:06:11] we at least [1:06:12] prioritize what topics that the ad hoc [1:06:17] subcommittee should focus on getting [1:06:20] speakers for. [1:06:23] Thank you. So anybody Oh, [1:06:34] did you all know it takes a few minutes [1:06:36] to get moving? So [1:06:44] yeah. Okay. Um, I was just going to say [1:06:47] and uh, Commissioner Buckles, you had [1:06:48] mentioned council, but council wouldn't [1:06:51] get involved in a decision like this. [1:06:54] Um, so it's up to the [1:06:56] commission. I will say that I um, and [1:07:00] I'm, you know, I'm trying not to give [1:07:03] you my opinion, but I I firmly believe [1:07:05] that what Cocino has suggested is the [1:07:08] way to go. I spent I'm not a medical [1:07:11] doctor but I spent over 20 years in the [1:07:14] profession. This is not a medical [1:07:16] conference to use a food analogy because [1:07:19] who doesn't love food. Um this is a [1:07:21] smorggas board. We're going to offer [1:07:23] things for people to to taste and sample [1:07:27] and they're going to want to spend time [1:07:29] with the vendors and they're not going [1:07:30] to want to sit 45 minutes and and and [1:07:34] we're here to give them an introduction [1:07:36] to topics that they can then decide if [1:07:39] they need to learn more about. We're not [1:07:41] here to to teach them everything there [1:07:44] is to know about healthy sleep patterns, [1:07:46] for example, or whatever the topics are. [1:07:48] So, I I support uh what Jamie said. [1:07:52] prioritize the topics and and look at it [1:07:54] as a smorus board because that's what [1:07:56] this is. It's as a health affair and [1:07:59] that's one council member's opinion and [1:08:01] that's probably all you'll get. So [1:08:13] sounded German to me [1:08:16] but all right so now focusing on topics [1:08:20] that we would like to for sure cover and [1:08:24] that way it gives some guidance to the [1:08:27] committee for the [1:08:31] speakers. It's very cumbersome either we [1:08:35] need lots or not. [1:08:41] So [1:08:42] just many of these fall into one topic [1:08:45] which is the understanding of [1:08:48] dementia. Um the other topic that I [1:08:51] really like is the caregiver topic [1:08:53] because uh that's really important and [1:08:56] many many people who are [1:08:58] caregivers need the attention that they [1:09:01] don't get. [1:09:02] But the other topic that I see here [1:09:04] which is [1:09:05] nutrition I like that however the [1:09:09] exercise of course I don't like but [1:09:11] anyway including demos of the exercise I [1:09:14] don't know how people manage to get that [1:09:16] done uh given the fact that we have [1:09:19] vendors we have blood pressure we have [1:09:21] food we have that was [1:09:27] my I'll say something everybody's [1:09:29] worried about dementia [1:09:32] you know, everybody over a certain age. [1:09:35] So, I think it would be good to focus on [1:09:38] things that most experts agree [1:09:42] um would prevent that from happening. [1:09:45] And it's the same thing, you know, it's [1:09:47] the um the food you eat, the exercise [1:09:51] you do, the social contacts that you [1:09:54] have, the ways to keep your brain [1:09:56] active. So, I think that could be a [1:09:59] topic that we [1:10:01] How about those things? How to prevent [1:10:03] it? [1:10:08] Again, the reason I looked at particular [1:10:11] topics is those are the problems that [1:10:16] people have talked about the [1:10:19] most. All of the other things about [1:10:23] nutrition are equally important. [1:10:26] All the other things about physical [1:10:30] movement are also about it's more a [1:10:34] question of [1:10:36] um if you're going to have a [1:10:39] smart then you get to nibble of it. [1:10:46] If you're going to have an educational [1:10:48] experience that [1:10:51] answers [1:10:52] the or perhaps even puts to grasp some [1:10:58] of the [1:11:00] fears that take [1:11:08] um possibly split up into multiple [1:11:13] different [1:11:17] But people want to go away with sense of [1:11:22] ah I feel better now that somebody has [1:11:27] um given me some potential [1:11:33] solution [1:11:34] absolutely the outlook of somebody who's [1:11:38] been treating people so I say that that is not necessarily the [1:11:47] contentual [1:11:54] perspective. Well, several of the topics [1:11:56] do address that. I lost my keys again. [1:12:00] One, you know, find it. for the person [1:12:03] to talk about distinguishing normal [1:12:06] aging normal aging for signs of dementia [1:12:09] and ways to maintain your brain as a [1:12:11] separate topic on the same along the [1:12:14] same lines but that's the prevention [1:12:16] that we talked [1:12:18] about caring for the caregiver is [1:12:21] important relevant so they get at that [1:12:24] problem of dementia from different [1:12:28] viewpoints sleep is an important [1:12:30] component stress is an important [1:12:33] We were learning um [1:12:36] that didn't come up with a big learning [1:12:39] discussion but it's another topic that [1:12:41] could be concluded. So this is [1:12:44] just what you say a a rough a rough [1:12:48] draft. This is a draft rough topic. So [1:12:51] based upon previous discussions and the [1:12:53] input from Amanda and Bill's prior [1:12:56] experience and my experience in working [1:12:58] in the field, these are topics that we [1:13:00] think are [1:13:02] important to approach. So I think you [1:13:07] are your topics are [1:13:10] represented [1:13:13] by so focusing in then on the [1:13:17] presentation topics. So, we've all [1:13:20] agreed that uh preventing [1:13:23] dementia, [1:13:25] caregiver, our public safety, um whether [1:13:29] it be in the home, [1:13:31] um what to do when emergencies come [1:13:36] up, those are all and exercise, [1:13:41] uh and nutrition. So, these exactly so [1:13:45] those I would say would be those to [1:13:47] focus on. doesn't mean that when the [1:13:51] speaking um the [1:13:55] speaker working pairs or ad hoc excuse [1:14:00] me comes up with topics or the speakers [1:14:05] you can focus in [1:14:07] and dementia could be where [1:14:10] we're exercising sleep in one or [1:14:14] whatever I I'm getting down into the [1:14:16] small things but I think the preventing [1:14:19] of dementia and determining how many [1:14:22] speakers you have and what rooms. So we [1:14:25] have [1:14:26] those and what's pain. So if we're going [1:14:29] to be doing the half an hour and if we [1:14:31] do the three rooms or if we decide to do [1:14:33] two rooms and be able to have a flow I [1:14:37] think we're still in the early stages. [1:14:39] Right now it's not the time to decide. I [1:14:41] think it's [1:14:43] speakers on these [1:14:47] highlighters. Well, well, we have the [1:14:50] prevent so we have prevent dementia. We [1:14:55] have food. We have exercise. We have [1:14:57] sleep. [1:15:00] Social energy. [1:15:05] What would be the do I have dementia or [1:15:08] is it just my own brain? Good. [1:15:17] My my question here is that for example [1:15:20] I had in mind a speaker who is the [1:15:25] director of the geriatric institute at [1:15:29] Stanford. If I were going to um ask any [1:15:33] of you to approach this person or [1:15:36] approach them on your behalf and [1:15:38] introduce them to you if you don't know [1:15:40] them already. How do I give them a [1:15:42] 30inut topic which is where have I lost [1:15:45] my keys? No. Then this this agenda [1:15:49] specifies that I don't invite such a [1:15:52] person. It's not worth their while. This [1:15:55] is a peace meal agenda smorgus war. [1:15:58] Somebody who is lower down the run will [1:16:01] make fight for us. [1:16:06] I'll go for turf or [1:16:07] turf [1:16:10] just my understanding is that [1:16:14] so very good point. You don't want to [1:16:17] waste their time [1:16:20] but again but then again this is for the [1:16:23] general population [1:16:25] and they could be coming for a speaker [1:16:29] talk specifically for them in the [1:16:31] future. And so it is a way [1:16:35] to get our feet wet and find the topics [1:16:39] that [1:16:40] our our residents are totally interested [1:16:43] in. Then we can get a higher level [1:16:46] speaker to come in specifically for talk [1:16:48] on [1:16:51] them. Can we start um inquiring from the [1:16:55] people who come to the community center [1:16:58] what kinds of education topics they [1:17:02] would like to um see and basically this [1:17:07] is um [1:17:09] research on what are the things that [1:17:13] people want to [1:17:14] know and I would I would think that [1:17:17] would be how I would approach um [1:17:22] choosing to more commonly mention but [1:17:26] we're talking about senior studation [1:17:31] But keep in mind we also have [1:17:33] suggestions from Certino who's who has [1:17:36] run this for many years and these were [1:17:40] topics that come up year after year. [1:17:46] Jim also did a lot of research on this [1:17:48] and he presented a list of topics and so [1:17:51] there's been several list of topics [1:17:54] around and we tried to summarize you [1:17:57] know what were the the ones that most [1:17:59] frequently appear these are [1:18:02] the in terms of prioritizing we took the [1:18:06] polls one and that was the only one that [1:18:09] got to Would you clarify? [1:18:26] So then [1:18:28] impossible. [1:18:31] Okay. So we're system we're going to [1:18:34] skip that. So uh so for item number two [1:18:39] prioritizing we have uh preventing [1:18:42] dementia in the topics under that are [1:18:45] included [1:18:46] exercise [1:18:48] social which would love input you know [1:18:52] how do we get those that are not out [1:18:55] there [1:18:56] um to be able to come become socialized [1:19:00] caregiver caregiving and [1:19:18] There's also a [1:19:22] topic [1:19:25] here. All right. [1:19:39] What are the topics? Six topics. [1:19:43] Mhm. [1:19:46] Do I have a Are we ready to vote? The [1:19:49] topics would be, let me repeat, [1:19:52] uh, prevent dementia, through nutrition [1:19:55] and food, through exercise, sleep, [1:19:59] socialization, caregivers, caregiving, [1:20:02] and public safety. [1:20:06] But I'll vote for yes in those [1:20:09] topics. All [1:20:13] right. We have our topics. Thank you [1:20:16] very much, everybody. [1:20:23] And what we need to do if it's taste is [1:20:26] select the title for this particular [1:20:32] event and that way we can get [1:20:35] our marketing moving forward. So does [1:20:39] including aha. All right. [1:20:43] Healthy aging. [1:20:46] Healthy [1:20:47] aging. Yes, you can add fair or [1:20:53] ex healthy [1:20:58] aging or healthful [1:21:02] aging. What is [1:21:04] your age? Well, live well. [1:21:08] to be something that the most [1:21:14] I like it too. [1:21:20] Fire [1:21:22] for you know [1:21:25] um live well age well [1:21:31] that's fair I don't care but those are I [1:21:39] attractive [1:21:41] words. I agree. I like the expo on that. [1:21:45] Anybody have any other [1:21:47] comments, [1:21:48] suggestions? Should we go [1:21:50] with Certino? Follow their lead. [1:21:55] Live well. [1:21:59] My only two cents is Hertino is a [1:22:02] neighboring city and if we have two [1:22:05] granted they are very different times [1:22:08] but we also don't want to confuse um one [1:22:12] event with another. Um, again, I I think [1:22:16] it is great, but there's lots of words [1:22:18] that I think we could maybe come up [1:22:20] with. [1:22:26] So, can we live well, age well, [1:22:32] healthare? Would that be sufficiently [1:22:34] different to human be? [1:22:40] That's kind of an in [1:22:43] between little closer. [1:23:09] It's not so much about [1:23:17] living [1:23:20] aging You have health [1:23:35] standing that in health stand because [1:23:38] you can have a long lifespan but your [1:23:41] health span is really are you able to [1:23:44] live the way you [1:23:48] want thought on the subject which is [1:23:51] don't just worry about how old are you [1:23:53] going to get to but whatever it is make [1:23:56] it really healthy [1:23:58] yeah That's another thing [1:24:05] long [1:24:25] Optimize the health as we age. [1:24:34] We have decision making [1:24:45] and a working pair decides. Yes. If you [1:24:49] want to assign um a working pair to [1:24:53] select the title rather than us deciding [1:24:56] now or waiting for the next month, let's [1:24:58] have a working pair decide this. Who [1:25:01] would like [1:25:06] to help us [1:25:11] get paddle? [1:25:23] That's a good one. [1:25:30] Yeah. [1:25:38] Does that [1:25:40] careers have to cover every [1:25:44] single sorry [1:25:47] or you can just allocate this back to [1:25:50] the ad hoc subcommittee because they are [1:25:52] the ones that are going to be getting [1:25:55] the [1:25:56] speakers. So we've provided feedback and [1:26:00] then based upon the speakers the ad hoc [1:26:02] subcommittee can affirm the title. [1:26:07] Very good. Thank you. Before we [1:26:12] leave [1:26:16] and so what I would like to do is have [1:26:21] working group working sorry set up and [1:26:26] we've [1:26:31] got working pairs for speakers. We have [1:26:34] that that's in the ad hoc. That's only I [1:26:38] said and then working pairs for [1:26:41] marketing. You wanted layout. Is that [1:26:44] right? [1:26:48] Marketing would be the way I was working [1:26:50] with. [1:27:00] All right. So then event [1:27:12] can you be on different working teams? [1:27:14] You can be on as many working pairs. The [1:27:17] only the only reminder I will put I know [1:27:20] this is all tied together but you need [1:27:23] to be specific to your task. So [1:27:25] marketing is marketing, event layout is [1:27:28] event layout, speakers are speakers, [1:27:31] right? We need to put for this purpose, [1:27:33] we need to put those boxes. You have to [1:27:35] stay within your [1:27:44] box. Um the vendors the tables will be [1:27:48] where some of the distribution of [1:27:52] vendors and rooms correct and the [1:27:56] different um functions for each room. [1:27:59] Correct. [1:28:03] So [1:28:15] marketing very nice. [1:28:24] Wonderful. [1:28:27] And we actually not going to do anything [1:28:30] there. [1:28:32] Dolores would like to help you with [1:28:34] food. [1:28:36] Help me with food. Yes, [1:28:39] but I'm only asking Los to buy us food. [1:28:43] But if we really want to talk about health food, [1:28:49] but I can't do too many things. So, I'll [1:28:51] back out as soon as we decided on the [1:28:53] food. Okay. Was there And then we have a [1:28:58] giveaway to attendees. And I'm happy to [1:29:01] work on that one. [1:29:04] Lovely. In fact, you're you're on [1:29:06] everything. That's why I said I back up [1:29:09] from as soon as you know the vendors. [1:29:11] I'll back up the vendors. I'll back up [1:29:13] from Yeah. [1:29:17] I know. [1:29:22] I was [1:29:23] thinking make yourself again. [1:29:29] for the house. [1:29:41] Any other thoughts for working groups, [1:29:44] working pairs? Um, this [1:29:54] and timeline within two weeks. some of [1:29:58] your decisions. We don't have so much [1:30:02] time. We can't wait a working group for [1:30:06] obtaining speakers. [1:30:14] So I think it's [1:30:17] your input to Jamie and then Jamie can [1:30:20] tell everybody what has been what's [1:30:24] transpired and then we can move forward. [1:30:27] But please leave the timeline because [1:30:28] we're just a whole [1:30:30] month. We don't have time. Two weeks, for I'm sorry coming to [1:30:39] decisions on all these things. So that's [1:30:42] why we've assigned the working pair of [1:30:44] those so that you can work on all of [1:30:47] those individually. Um again, as I [1:30:50] mentioned, your specific task or topic [1:30:53] needs to stay in that box. So food is [1:30:56] just your hey you've been um delegated [1:31:01] to work on that um [1:31:04] or speakers to select those speakers. We [1:31:09] already have a working pair for vendors. [1:31:11] You can now outreach knowing what the [1:31:13] maximum is and kind of the general [1:31:15] prioritization of those topics um that [1:31:19] can fall all of these pieces. The [1:31:21] working pairs can now go and do those [1:31:24] things. Obviously, if you have [1:31:25] questions, um, reaching back out to me, [1:31:28] um, so that I can, um, provide guidance [1:31:31] or answer questions if needed. Um, then [1:31:34] at the next meeting in May, you can [1:31:36] report back out where you are in [1:31:38] progress. [1:31:40] A quick question. Yeah, sure. [1:31:45] Um, so I had discussed with lots of [1:31:49] students about providing food and they [1:31:53] had asked a question. you need to ask [1:31:54] Jamie that um how many attendees do we [1:31:58] expect and they also wanted to know if [1:32:01] we have [1:32:02] pre-registration so that they can be [1:32:04] assured of a certain number they need to [1:32:06] allocate a budget [1:32:10] so I can work specifically with the [1:32:13] working pair to answer those questions [1:32:16] um in general um for this type of event [1:32:20] I think a good average is probably 2 [1:32:23] to300 00 people. Um that's about what we [1:32:26] uh parks and recreation got for our open [1:32:28] house. Um and especially since this is [1:32:32] and um the event that was h that [1:32:34] happened down at Grant. Now that was [1:32:37] just the vendor uh the vendor portion. [1:32:40] There was not a presentation portion to [1:32:43] that particular event. Um there was [1:32:45] probably at least 150 to 200 that came [1:32:48] through. So I think two to 300 is a good [1:32:52] estimation of what should be anticipated [1:32:55] for the event itself. [1:32:58] Okay. [1:33:00] Yes. And so I can work um I will be your [1:33:04] resource for all of the different [1:33:06] groups. Just remember to be specific to [1:33:09] your topic and only email the [1:33:12] individual's working pair. Your email [1:33:15] should never have more than your working [1:33:18] pair partner or your ad hoc committee. [1:33:22] Just remember, no more than three. [1:33:29] Okay. Yes. [1:33:31] And as a breakdown with all of these [1:33:35] assignments, I will make sure to get [1:33:37] this out to the full commission so it is [1:33:39] clear who is on each of these working [1:33:43] pairs and who is on the ad hoc [1:33:46] subcommittee. [1:34:02] volunteering. [1:34:07] United States. So we've already had um [1:34:10] again working pair is just that no more [1:34:13] than two. Um and so if someone we can [1:34:19] uh we can break out um a few um a few [1:34:23] more things [1:34:25] um if we would like. But we do have at [1:34:28] least decent representation here. Some [1:34:31] of these tasks are are smaller and [1:34:34] obviously city staff will be supporting [1:34:37] um again this is as an example for [1:34:40] marketing it is taking um liaisoning and [1:34:43] kind of working with what the commission [1:34:45] is but city stock is going to be doing [1:34:48] the work to create it. So that's why I [1:34:50] was going to say that I can back out of [1:34:52] marketing if Jim would like to take [1:34:55] that. [1:35:04] So my suggestion would be since the he [1:35:07] is not present um maybe we can look at [1:35:10] that and um we can assign to who is here [1:35:14] and who is interested. We can always add [1:35:17] that as a a section when we get to um [1:35:21] either the the continued conversation [1:35:24] which the health fair will be on the the [1:35:26] next agenda as well. [1:35:29] I'm happy to help you take [1:35:38] over [1:35:41] coffee allow you to bring in [1:35:46] coffee to volunteer. Oh. Uh so my si my [1:35:53] suggestion is we can um the plan is to [1:35:56] have a a budget Um, and we can bring in [1:36:01] a vendor to provide or we are able to um [1:36:06] to to bring in a coffee cart to do that. [1:36:10] We actually did have a coffee cart at [1:36:12] our parks and rec open house. So, uh, we [1:36:15] are absolutely able to do that. And so, [1:36:17] that is something that the working pair [1:36:19] for food and snacks can make suggestions [1:36:22] and decide. [1:36:25] It is. Will it break currently? [1:36:29] Can we have the dangers specific to the [1:36:32] topic that we're going to be addressing? [1:36:35] Yes. Um and so to your question um to [1:36:39] keep a quorum we need four people. So as [1:36:43] long as we have four then we are a then [1:36:46] we are still in quarant. [1:36:49] Are there any other discussion [1:36:53] points? I think we're all done. Do [1:36:57] anything that we [1:36:59] do we have a motion to close or as part [1:37:01] of this uh no so um I guess the only [1:37:04] other thing um that took lots of really [1:37:08] good work there um all the other pieces [1:37:12] areformational which are included in [1:37:14] your packet. [1:37:16] Um the the there only other um piece uh [1:37:21] the work plan has been updated. Um so [1:37:24] again that uh is reflective of all the [1:37:27] working pairs that I will update that [1:37:30] for all the new working pairs that were [1:37:32] just created. So that will come back at [1:37:34] the next meeting as well. [1:37:38] Correct. Correct. [1:37:42] So is [1:37:43] there any questions on anything else [1:37:47] which is which is [1:37:49] justformational that was included in [1:37:51] your pocket? [1:37:56] Okay. So I call this meeting close. [1:38:02] Thank you. Thank you everybody. [1:38:07] The other Chris I'm going to meet you [1:38:08] tomorrow morning. [1:38:13] We need more care and open.