[0:14] And [0:14] everyone, the meeting of the [0:15] everyone, the meeting of the [0:15] everyone, the meeting of the Public Safety Committee is now [0:16] everyone, the meeting of the Public Safety Committee is now [0:16] everyone, the meeting of the Public Safety Committee is now called to order. Today is [0:18] Public Safety Committee is now called to order. Today is [0:18] Public Safety Committee is now called to order. Today is Wednesday, January 28th, 2026. [0:20] called to order. Today is Wednesday, January 28th, 2026. [0:21] called to order. Today is Wednesday, January 28th, 2026. Time is approximately 2:30 p.m. [0:24] Wednesday, January 28th, 2026. Time is approximately 2:30 p.m. [0:24] Wednesday, January 28th, 2026. Time is approximately 2:30 p.m. Madam clerk, can you please [0:25] Time is approximately 2:30 p.m. Madam clerk, can you please [0:25] Time is approximately 2:30 p.m. Madam clerk, can you please call the roll? Council member [0:27] Madam clerk, can you please call the roll? Council member [0:27] Madam clerk, can you please call the roll? Council member Lee. Present. Council member. [0:29] call the roll? Council member Lee. Present. Council member. [0:29] call the roll? Council member Lee. Present. Council member. Pryce. Absent. Council member [0:31] Lee. Present. Council member. Pryce. Absent. Council member [0:31] Lee. Present. Council member. Pryce. Absent. Council member McCusker. Here. Council member. [0:33] Pryce. Absent. Council member McCusker. Here. Council member. [0:34] Pryce. Absent. Council member McCusker. Here. Council member. Martinez here. Council member. [0:35] McCusker. Here. Council member. Martinez here. Council member. [0:35] McCusker. Here. Council member. Martinez here. Council member. Park. Absent. Three members [0:37] Martinez here. Council member. Park. Absent. Three members [0:37] Martinez here. Council member. Park. Absent. Three members present and a quorum. Mr. chair. [0:38] Park. Absent. Three members present and a quorum. Mr. chair. [0:38] Park. Absent. Three members present and a quorum. Mr. chair. All right. We will begin with [0:40] present and a quorum. Mr. chair. All right. We will begin with [0:40] present and a quorum. Mr. chair. All right. We will begin with public comment. Those that wish [0:42] All right. We will begin with public comment. Those that wish [0:42] All right. We will begin with public comment. Those that wish to speak can come to the podium. [0:44] public comment. Those that wish to speak can come to the podium. [0:44] public comment. Those that wish to speak can come to the podium. When I call your name, you'll [0:45] to speak can come to the podium. When I call your name, you'll [0:45] to speak can come to the podium. When I call your name, you'll have one minute for general [0:47] When I call your name, you'll have one minute for general [0:47] When I call your name, you'll have one minute for general public comment and one minute [0:48] have one minute for general public comment and one minute [0:48] have one minute for general public comment and one minute each for the items on the [0:50] public comment and one minute each for the items on the [0:50] public comment and one minute each for the items on the agenda for a maximum of three [0:52] each for the items on the agenda for a maximum of three [0:52] each for the items on the agenda for a maximum of three minutes. Mr. Yeager, can you [0:55] agenda for a maximum of three minutes. Mr. Yeager, can you [0:55] agenda for a maximum of three minutes. Mr. Yeager, can you please call the first name? [0:56] minutes. Mr. Yeager, can you please call the first name? [0:57] minutes. Mr. Yeager, can you please call the first name? First speaker is Andrew Grebner. [0:59] please call the first name? First speaker is Andrew Grebner. [0:59] please call the first name? First speaker is Andrew Grebner. You'll have two minutes for the [1:00] First speaker is Andrew Grebner. You'll have two minutes for the [1:00] First speaker is Andrew Grebner. You'll have two minutes for the item, one minute for general [1:02] You'll have two minutes for the item, one minute for general [1:02] You'll have two minutes for the item, one minute for general comment. If you can fly. Okay. [1:12] item, one minute for general comment. If you can fly. Okay. [1:12] item, one minute for general comment. If you can fly. Okay. So item one is related to the [1:16] comment. If you can fly. Okay. So item one is related to the [1:16] comment. If you can fly. Okay. So item one is related to the department patrol plans and [1:18] So item one is related to the department patrol plans and [1:18] So item one is related to the department patrol plans and basic car plans for 2025 and [1:22] department patrol plans and basic car plans for 2025 and [1:22] department patrol plans and basic car plans for 2025 and 2026. So how about we have less [1:26] basic car plans for 2025 and 2026. So how about we have less [1:26] basic car plans for 2025 and 2026. So how about we have less LAPD patrols and more valuable [1:30] 2026. So how about we have less LAPD patrols and more valuable [1:30] 2026. So how about we have less LAPD patrols and more valuable community services of things [1:32] LAPD patrols and more valuable community services of things [1:32] LAPD patrols and more valuable community services of things that actually keep people safe, [1:34] community services of things that actually keep people safe, [1:34] community services of things that actually keep people safe, instead of more policing? So we [1:39] that actually keep people safe, instead of more policing? So we [1:39] that actually keep people safe, instead of more policing? So we have item two, which is related [1:42] instead of more policing? So we have item two, which is related [1:42] instead of more policing? So we have item two, which is related to illegal cannabis operations [1:46] have item two, which is related to illegal cannabis operations [1:46] have item two, which is related to illegal cannabis operations present cannabis made legal in [1:48] to illegal cannabis operations present cannabis made legal in [1:48] to illegal cannabis operations present cannabis made legal in the city of LA. So this is [1:53] present cannabis made legal in the city of LA. So this is [1:53] present cannabis made legal in the city of LA. So this is possibly going to target legal [1:55] the city of LA. So this is possibly going to target legal [1:56] the city of LA. So this is possibly going to target legal cannabis operations, since [1:57] possibly going to target legal cannabis operations, since [1:57] possibly going to target legal cannabis operations, since that's what the LAPD tends to [1:59] cannabis operations, since that's what the LAPD tends to [2:00] cannabis operations, since that's what the LAPD tends to do is target stuff that they [2:03] that's what the LAPD tends to do is target stuff that they [2:03] that's what the LAPD tends to do is target stuff that they shouldn't be targeting. So we [2:06] do is target stuff that they shouldn't be targeting. So we [2:06] do is target stuff that they shouldn't be targeting. So we have item five, which is [2:08] shouldn't be targeting. So we have item five, which is [2:08] shouldn't be targeting. So we have item five, which is related to human trafficking [2:11] have item five, which is related to human trafficking [2:11] have item five, which is related to human trafficking task forces, while meanwhile [2:12] related to human trafficking task forces, while meanwhile [2:13] related to human trafficking task forces, while meanwhile the LAPD aids and abets and [2:16] task forces, while meanwhile the LAPD aids and abets and [2:16] task forces, while meanwhile the LAPD aids and abets and legalized human trafficking, [2:17] the LAPD aids and abets and legalized human trafficking, [2:18] the LAPD aids and abets and legalized human trafficking, also known as ice kidnapings, [2:21] legalized human trafficking, also known as ice kidnapings, [2:21] legalized human trafficking, also known as ice kidnapings, assisting and aiding and [2:22] also known as ice kidnapings, assisting and aiding and [2:22] also known as ice kidnapings, assisting and aiding and abetting those while lying and [2:24] assisting and aiding and abetting those while lying and [2:24] assisting and aiding and abetting those while lying and claiming that they aren't. So [2:27] abetting those while lying and claiming that they aren't. So [2:27] abetting those while lying and claiming that they aren't. So that's what the LAPD is doing. [2:30] claiming that they aren't. So that's what the LAPD is doing. [2:30] claiming that they aren't. So that's what the LAPD is doing. So item eight is related to dry [2:34] that's what the LAPD is doing. So item eight is related to dry [2:34] that's what the LAPD is doing. So item eight is related to dry suits for the maritime dive [2:37] So item eight is related to dry suits for the maritime dive [2:37] So item eight is related to dry suits for the maritime dive team. It seems like maybe some [2:39] suits for the maritime dive team. It seems like maybe some [2:39] suits for the maritime dive team. It seems like maybe some of this stuff is stuff that I'm [2:41] team. It seems like maybe some of this stuff is stuff that I'm [2:41] team. It seems like maybe some of this stuff is stuff that I'm guessing it's like rescues or [2:43] of this stuff is stuff that I'm guessing it's like rescues or [2:43] of this stuff is stuff that I'm guessing it's like rescues or whatever. Maybe this is stuff [2:45] guessing it's like rescues or whatever. Maybe this is stuff [2:45] guessing it's like rescues or whatever. Maybe this is stuff that should not be done by [2:47] whatever. Maybe this is stuff that should not be done by [2:47] whatever. Maybe this is stuff that should not be done by armed cops with a badge and a [2:50] that should not be done by armed cops with a badge and a [2:50] that should not be done by armed cops with a badge and a gun that are likely to end up [2:53] armed cops with a badge and a gun that are likely to end up [2:53] armed cops with a badge and a gun that are likely to end up being violent. We have item [2:55] gun that are likely to end up being violent. We have item [2:55] gun that are likely to end up being violent. We have item nine, which is related to a [2:56] being violent. We have item nine, which is related to a [2:56] being violent. We have item nine, which is related to a woman police officer's [2:59] nine, which is related to a woman police officer's [2:59] nine, which is related to a woman police officer's symposium. That is interesting [3:02] woman police officer's symposium. That is interesting [3:02] woman police officer's symposium. That is interesting since a lot of women have found [3:06] symposium. That is interesting since a lot of women have found [3:06] symposium. That is interesting since a lot of women have found that they get sexually abused [3:09] since a lot of women have found that they get sexually abused [3:09] since a lot of women have found that they get sexually abused by LAPD officers and they tend [3:14] that they get sexually abused by LAPD officers and they tend [3:14] that they get sexually abused by LAPD officers and they tend to come. And when women call [3:17] by LAPD officers and they tend to come. And when women call [3:17] by LAPD officers and they tend to come. And when women call them for help, when they're [3:18] to come. And when women call them for help, when they're [3:18] to come. And when women call them for help, when they're being sexually abused or [3:21] them for help, when they're being sexually abused or [3:21] them for help, when they're being sexually abused or attacked, the LAPD comes and [3:22] being sexually abused or attacked, the LAPD comes and [3:22] being sexually abused or attacked, the LAPD comes and targets the women. So that's [3:25] attacked, the LAPD comes and targets the women. So that's [3:25] attacked, the LAPD comes and targets the women. So that's certainly interesting. We have [3:29] targets the women. So that's certainly interesting. We have [3:29] targets the women. So that's certainly interesting. We have let's see, we have item 11, [3:32] certainly interesting. We have let's see, we have item 11, [3:32] certainly interesting. We have let's see, we have item 11, which is related to the robot [3:34] let's see, we have item 11, which is related to the robot [3:34] let's see, we have item 11, which is related to the robot dog ground vehicle inspection. [3:37] which is related to the robot dog ground vehicle inspection. [3:37] which is related to the robot dog ground vehicle inspection. This is more military equipment [3:40] dog ground vehicle inspection. This is more military equipment [3:40] dog ground vehicle inspection. This is more military equipment for the LAPD that they should [3:42] This is more military equipment for the LAPD that they should [3:42] This is more military equipment for the LAPD that they should not have. This stuff should be [3:44] for the LAPD that they should not have. This stuff should be [3:44] for the LAPD that they should not have. This stuff should be taken away from them. And they [3:49] not have. This stuff should be taken away from them. And they [3:49] not have. This stuff should be taken away from them. And they they're just used for more [3:50] taken away from them. And they they're just used for more [3:50] taken away from them. And they they're just used for more violence against the community. [3:53] they're just used for more violence against the community. [3:53] they're just used for more violence against the community. Now of course, this departments [3:55] violence against the community. Now of course, this departments [3:55] violence against the community. Now of course, this departments or this committee is run by [3:59] Now of course, this departments or this committee is run by [3:59] Now of course, this departments or this committee is run by criminals and themselves. We [4:00] or this committee is run by criminals and themselves. We [4:01] or this committee is run by criminals and themselves. We have city staff are B and Price [4:03] criminals and themselves. We have city staff are B and Price [4:03] criminals and themselves. We have city staff are B and Price Price who's not here. So yeah, [4:10] have city staff are B and Price Price who's not here. So yeah, [4:10] have city staff are B and Price Price who's not here. So yeah, they'll never admit if your [4:11] Price who's not here. So yeah, they'll never admit if your [4:11] Price who's not here. So yeah, they'll never admit if your staff are B, but we all know [4:12] they'll never admit if your staff are B, but we all know [4:13] they'll never admit if your staff are B, but we all know you are. Next speaker is Dustin [4:17] staff are B, but we all know you are. Next speaker is Dustin [4:17] staff are B, but we all know you are. Next speaker is Dustin go. You'll have two minutes for [4:18] you are. Next speaker is Dustin go. You'll have two minutes for [4:18] you are. Next speaker is Dustin go. You'll have two minutes for the items three and six. Okay. [4:25] go. You'll have two minutes for the items three and six. Okay. [4:25] go. You'll have two minutes for the items three and six. Okay. And then the next speaker after [4:26] the items three and six. Okay. And then the next speaker after [4:26] the items three and six. Okay. And then the next speaker after that will be Rachel Golding. [4:39] And then the next speaker after that will be Rachel Golding. [4:39] And then the next speaker after that will be Rachel Golding. Dustin, you'll have two minutes. [4:46] that will be Rachel Golding. Dustin, you'll have two minutes. [4:46] that will be Rachel Golding. Dustin, you'll have two minutes. There you go. Okay. Good [4:52] Dustin, you'll have two minutes. There you go. Okay. Good [4:52] Dustin, you'll have two minutes. There you go. Okay. Good afternoon. Members of the [4:53] There you go. Okay. Good afternoon. Members of the [4:53] There you go. Okay. Good afternoon. Members of the public Safety Committee. My [4:54] afternoon. Members of the public Safety Committee. My [4:54] afternoon. Members of the public Safety Committee. My name is Dustin Go and I [4:55] public Safety Committee. My name is Dustin Go and I [4:55] public Safety Committee. My name is Dustin Go and I represent we operate multiple [4:58] name is Dustin Go and I represent we operate multiple [4:58] name is Dustin Go and I represent we operate multiple cannabis locations throughout [4:59] represent we operate multiple cannabis locations throughout [4:59] represent we operate multiple cannabis locations throughout the city and the county of Los [5:01] cannabis locations throughout the city and the county of Los [5:01] cannabis locations throughout the city and the county of Los Angeles, and we support the [5:02] the city and the county of Los Angeles, and we support the [5:02] the city and the county of Los Angeles, and we support the city's effort to address the [5:03] Angeles, and we support the city's effort to address the [5:03] Angeles, and we support the city's effort to address the illegal cannabis market and [5:04] city's effort to address the illegal cannabis market and [5:05] city's effort to address the illegal cannabis market and improve public safety. I'm here [5:07] illegal cannabis market and improve public safety. I'm here [5:07] illegal cannabis market and improve public safety. I'm here today because our office, [5:08] improve public safety. I'm here today because our office, [5:08] improve public safety. I'm here today because our office, located at 2001 Alameda Street, [5:11] today because our office, located at 2001 Alameda Street, [5:11] today because our office, located at 2001 Alameda Street, has been experiencing ongoing [5:12] located at 2001 Alameda Street, has been experiencing ongoing [5:12] located at 2001 Alameda Street, has been experiencing ongoing issues related to homeless [5:14] has been experiencing ongoing issues related to homeless [5:14] has been experiencing ongoing issues related to homeless encampments along Macquarie [5:15] issues related to homeless encampments along Macquarie [5:15] issues related to homeless encampments along Macquarie Street. At this location, we've [5:16] encampments along Macquarie Street. At this location, we've [5:17] encampments along Macquarie Street. At this location, we've seen repeated incidents of [5:18] Street. At this location, we've seen repeated incidents of [5:18] Street. At this location, we've seen repeated incidents of copper wiring being stripped [5:19] seen repeated incidents of copper wiring being stripped [5:20] seen repeated incidents of copper wiring being stripped and burned at the streets as, [5:22] copper wiring being stripped and burned at the streets as, [5:22] copper wiring being stripped and burned at the streets as, as a as well as large scale [5:24] and burned at the streets as, as a as well as large scale [5:24] and burned at the streets as, as a as well as large scale illegal dumping. We have video [5:26] as a as well as large scale illegal dumping. We have video [5:26] as a as well as large scale illegal dumping. We have video footage showing multiple green [5:27] illegal dumping. We have video footage showing multiple green [5:27] illegal dumping. We have video footage showing multiple green dump trucks unloading [5:29] footage showing multiple green dump trucks unloading [5:29] footage showing multiple green dump trucks unloading significant amounts of trash [5:29] dump trucks unloading significant amounts of trash [5:29] dump trucks unloading significant amounts of trash and debris in the area, most [5:32] significant amounts of trash and debris in the area, most [5:32] significant amounts of trash and debris in the area, most recently on on Tuesday, January [5:35] and debris in the area, most recently on on Tuesday, January [5:35] and debris in the area, most recently on on Tuesday, January 20th, a fire broke out at the [5:37] recently on on Tuesday, January 20th, a fire broke out at the [5:37] recently on on Tuesday, January 20th, a fire broke out at the encampment and required [5:37] 20th, a fire broke out at the encampment and required [5:37] 20th, a fire broke out at the encampment and required intervention from this Los [5:38] encampment and required intervention from this Los [5:38] encampment and required intervention from this Los Angeles Fire Department. That [5:40] intervention from this Los Angeles Fire Department. That [5:41] intervention from this Los Angeles Fire Department. That incident heightened serious [5:42] Angeles Fire Department. That incident heightened serious [5:42] Angeles Fire Department. That incident heightened serious concern for the safety of our [5:44] incident heightened serious concern for the safety of our [5:44] incident heightened serious concern for the safety of our employees, nearby businesses [5:45] concern for the safety of our employees, nearby businesses [5:45] concern for the safety of our employees, nearby businesses and first responders. We [5:47] employees, nearby businesses and first responders. We [5:47] employees, nearby businesses and first responders. We appreciate the city's continued [5:49] and first responders. We appreciate the city's continued [5:49] and first responders. We appreciate the city's continued attention to homelessness and [5:50] appreciate the city's continued attention to homelessness and [5:50] appreciate the city's continued attention to homelessness and public safety citywide, and we [5:52] attention to homelessness and public safety citywide, and we [5:52] attention to homelessness and public safety citywide, and we also wanted to thank Council [5:54] public safety citywide, and we also wanted to thank Council [5:54] public safety citywide, and we also wanted to thank Council District nine for previous [5:56] also wanted to thank Council District nine for previous [5:56] also wanted to thank Council District nine for previous cleanups on Macquarie Street. [5:57] District nine for previous cleanups on Macquarie Street. [5:57] District nine for previous cleanups on Macquarie Street. At this point, we were [5:58] cleanups on Macquarie Street. At this point, we were [5:59] cleanups on Macquarie Street. At this point, we were respectfully requesting [6:00] At this point, we were respectfully requesting [6:00] At this point, we were respectfully requesting additional assistance to help [6:01] respectfully requesting additional assistance to help [6:01] respectfully requesting additional assistance to help address the ongoing issues at [6:03] additional assistance to help address the ongoing issues at [6:03] additional assistance to help address the ongoing issues at this location. We are eager to [6:05] address the ongoing issues at this location. We are eager to [6:05] address the ongoing issues at this location. We are eager to collaboratively work with the [6:07] this location. We are eager to collaboratively work with the [6:07] this location. We are eager to collaboratively work with the city and improve safety, [6:08] collaboratively work with the city and improve safety, [6:08] collaboratively work with the city and improve safety, cleanliness and overall [6:09] city and improve safety, cleanliness and overall [6:09] city and improve safety, cleanliness and overall conditions on Macquarie Street. [6:10] cleanliness and overall conditions on Macquarie Street. [6:10] cleanliness and overall conditions on Macquarie Street. Thank you. Thank you, Rachel [6:14] conditions on Macquarie Street. Thank you. Thank you, Rachel [6:14] conditions on Macquarie Street. Thank you. Thank you, Rachel Golding. You'll have two [6:15] Thank you. Thank you, Rachel Golding. You'll have two [6:15] Thank you. Thank you, Rachel Golding. You'll have two minutes for items three and six [6:17] Golding. You'll have two minutes for items three and six [6:17] Golding. You'll have two minutes for items three and six and the next speaker will be [6:18] minutes for items three and six and the next speaker will be [6:18] minutes for items three and six and the next speaker will be Laura FM. Good afternoon, [6:22] and the next speaker will be Laura FM. Good afternoon, [6:22] and the next speaker will be Laura FM. Good afternoon, Council members. My name is [6:24] Laura FM. Good afternoon, Council members. My name is [6:24] Laura FM. Good afternoon, Council members. My name is Rachel Golding and I work for [6:26] Council members. My name is Rachel Golding and I work for [6:26] Council members. My name is Rachel Golding and I work for Please state at 2001 Alameda [6:28] Rachel Golding and I work for Please state at 2001 Alameda [6:29] Rachel Golding and I work for Please state at 2001 Alameda Street. I want to begin by [6:31] Please state at 2001 Alameda Street. I want to begin by [6:31] Please state at 2001 Alameda Street. I want to begin by expressing our support for the [6:32] Street. I want to begin by expressing our support for the [6:32] Street. I want to begin by expressing our support for the city's efforts to address the [6:33] expressing our support for the city's efforts to address the [6:34] expressing our support for the city's efforts to address the illegal cannabis market and [6:35] city's efforts to address the illegal cannabis market and [6:35] city's efforts to address the illegal cannabis market and improve public safety [6:37] illegal cannabis market and improve public safety [6:37] illegal cannabis market and improve public safety throughout Los Angeles. I'm [6:38] improve public safety throughout Los Angeles. I'm [6:39] improve public safety throughout Los Angeles. I'm here today as an employee who [6:40] throughout Los Angeles. I'm here today as an employee who [6:40] throughout Los Angeles. I'm here today as an employee who parks on McGarry Street when [6:43] here today as an employee who parks on McGarry Street when [6:43] here today as an employee who parks on McGarry Street when coming to and leaving work. [6:45] parks on McGarry Street when coming to and leaving work. [6:45] parks on McGarry Street when coming to and leaving work. Over time, the conditions in [6:46] coming to and leaving work. Over time, the conditions in [6:46] coming to and leaving work. Over time, the conditions in this area have made many of us [6:49] Over time, the conditions in this area have made many of us [6:49] Over time, the conditions in this area have made many of us feel uncomfortable and at times [6:51] this area have made many of us feel uncomfortable and at times [6:51] this area have made many of us feel uncomfortable and at times fearful for the personal safety, [6:52] feel uncomfortable and at times fearful for the personal safety, [6:53] feel uncomfortable and at times fearful for the personal safety, for our personal safety, [6:54] fearful for the personal safety, for our personal safety, [6:54] fearful for the personal safety, for our personal safety, especially when walking to and [6:56] for our personal safety, especially when walking to and [6:56] for our personal safety, especially when walking to and from our cars early in the [6:57] especially when walking to and from our cars early in the [6:57] especially when walking to and from our cars early in the morning and later in the day. [6:59] from our cars early in the morning and later in the day. [6:59] from our cars early in the morning and later in the day. Because of these concerns, [7:01] morning and later in the day. Because of these concerns, [7:01] morning and later in the day. Because of these concerns, Please state security now [7:03] Because of these concerns, Please state security now [7:03] Because of these concerns, Please state security now regularly escorts employees to [7:05] Please state security now regularly escorts employees to [7:05] Please state security now regularly escorts employees to their vehicles, which shows how [7:07] regularly escorts employees to their vehicles, which shows how [7:07] regularly escorts employees to their vehicles, which shows how serious the situation has [7:08] their vehicles, which shows how serious the situation has [7:08] their vehicles, which shows how serious the situation has become. Most recently, some [7:11] serious the situation has become. Most recently, some [7:11] serious the situation has become. Most recently, some employees had objects thrown at [7:12] become. Most recently, some employees had objects thrown at [7:12] become. Most recently, some employees had objects thrown at their cars as they were leaving [7:14] employees had objects thrown at their cars as they were leaving [7:15] employees had objects thrown at their cars as they were leaving the parking lot at the end of [7:16] their cars as they were leaving the parking lot at the end of [7:16] their cars as they were leaving the parking lot at the end of the workday. I understand that [7:18] the parking lot at the end of the workday. I understand that [7:18] the parking lot at the end of the workday. I understand that homelessness is a complex and [7:19] the workday. I understand that homelessness is a complex and [7:19] the workday. I understand that homelessness is a complex and sensitive issue, and I [7:21] homelessness is a complex and sensitive issue, and I [7:21] homelessness is a complex and sensitive issue, and I appreciate the city's continued [7:22] sensitive issue, and I appreciate the city's continued [7:22] sensitive issue, and I appreciate the city's continued effort to address it. I'm [7:24] appreciate the city's continued effort to address it. I'm [7:24] appreciate the city's continued effort to address it. I'm simply asking for additional [7:26] effort to address it. I'm simply asking for additional [7:26] effort to address it. I'm simply asking for additional help with this specific area so [7:28] simply asking for additional help with this specific area so [7:28] simply asking for additional help with this specific area so employees can feel safe, safer [7:30] help with this specific area so employees can feel safe, safer [7:30] help with this specific area so employees can feel safe, safer going to work, and getting home [7:31] employees can feel safe, safer going to work, and getting home [7:32] employees can feel safe, safer going to work, and getting home at the end of the day. Lastly, [7:34] going to work, and getting home at the end of the day. Lastly, [7:34] going to work, and getting home at the end of the day. Lastly, I'd like to thank Council [7:35] at the end of the day. Lastly, I'd like to thank Council [7:35] at the end of the day. Lastly, I'd like to thank Council District nine for the previous [7:37] I'd like to thank Council District nine for the previous [7:37] I'd like to thank Council District nine for the previous cleanup efforts along Macquarie [7:39] District nine for the previous cleanup efforts along Macquarie [7:39] District nine for the previous cleanup efforts along Macquarie Street. We truly appreciate [7:41] cleanup efforts along Macquarie Street. We truly appreciate [7:41] cleanup efforts along Macquarie Street. We truly appreciate that support and hope further [7:42] Street. We truly appreciate that support and hope further [7:42] Street. We truly appreciate that support and hope further assistance can help improve [7:44] that support and hope further assistance can help improve [7:44] that support and hope further assistance can help improve safety moving forward. Thank [7:45] assistance can help improve safety moving forward. Thank [7:45] assistance can help improve safety moving forward. Thank you for your time and [7:47] safety moving forward. Thank you for your time and [7:47] safety moving forward. Thank you for your time and consideration. Thank you. Next [7:50] you for your time and consideration. Thank you. Next [7:50] you for your time and consideration. Thank you. Next speaker, Laura FM. You'll have [7:52] consideration. Thank you. Next speaker, Laura FM. You'll have [7:52] consideration. Thank you. Next speaker, Laura FM. You'll have two minutes for the items, one [7:53] speaker, Laura FM. You'll have two minutes for the items, one [7:53] speaker, Laura FM. You'll have two minutes for the items, one minute for general comment, [7:54] two minutes for the items, one minute for general comment, [7:54] two minutes for the items, one minute for general comment, followed by audit LA. Okay. Hi, [7:56] minute for general comment, followed by audit LA. Okay. Hi, [7:56] minute for general comment, followed by audit LA. Okay. Hi, I'm going to do a number ten. [8:01] followed by audit LA. Okay. Hi, I'm going to do a number ten. [8:01] followed by audit LA. Okay. Hi, I'm going to do a number ten. So I was reading here it says [8:03] I'm going to do a number ten. So I was reading here it says [8:03] I'm going to do a number ten. So I was reading here it says the report from Board of Police [8:05] So I was reading here it says the report from Board of Police [8:05] So I was reading here it says the report from Board of Police Commissioners relative to [8:06] the report from Board of Police Commissioners relative to [8:06] the report from Board of Police Commissioners relative to accepting a non monetary [8:09] Commissioners relative to accepting a non monetary [8:09] Commissioners relative to accepting a non monetary donation valued at $250,000. [8:13] accepting a non monetary donation valued at $250,000. [8:13] accepting a non monetary donation valued at $250,000. What if let's just think about [8:15] donation valued at $250,000. What if let's just think about [8:15] donation valued at $250,000. What if let's just think about this. What if Scientology is [8:18] What if let's just think about this. What if Scientology is [8:18] What if let's just think about this. What if Scientology is donating that $250,000? Where [8:21] this. What if Scientology is donating that $250,000? Where [8:21] this. What if Scientology is donating that $250,000? Where where do the public get any [8:23] donating that $250,000? Where where do the public get any [8:23] donating that $250,000? Where where do the public get any sort of transparency as to [8:27] where do the public get any sort of transparency as to [8:27] where do the public get any sort of transparency as to where the money comes, where it [8:29] sort of transparency as to where the money comes, where it [8:29] sort of transparency as to where the money comes, where it comes from? And also, is that [8:31] where the money comes, where it comes from? And also, is that [8:31] where the money comes, where it comes from? And also, is that even legal Chair and state, [8:33] comes from? And also, is that even legal Chair and state, [8:33] comes from? And also, is that even legal Chair and state, right. We have laws between [8:34] even legal Chair and state, right. We have laws between [8:35] even legal Chair and state, right. We have laws between church and state. Do you just [8:37] right. We have laws between church and state. Do you just [8:37] right. We have laws between church and state. Do you just accept millions of dollars from [8:39] church and state. Do you just accept millions of dollars from [8:39] church and state. Do you just accept millions of dollars from or thousands or say, $250,000, [8:42] accept millions of dollars from or thousands or say, $250,000, [8:42] accept millions of dollars from or thousands or say, $250,000, as long as it comes from the [8:44] or thousands or say, $250,000, as long as it comes from the [8:44] or thousands or say, $250,000, as long as it comes from the Church of Scientology? Is that [8:46] as long as it comes from the Church of Scientology? Is that [8:46] as long as it comes from the Church of Scientology? Is that okay? Would that be okay with [8:48] Church of Scientology? Is that okay? Would that be okay with [8:48] Church of Scientology? Is that okay? Would that be okay with you, Hugo, if you saw that, [8:49] okay? Would that be okay with you, Hugo, if you saw that, [8:50] okay? Would that be okay with you, Hugo, if you saw that, would you say, I'm not going to [8:51] you, Hugo, if you saw that, would you say, I'm not going to [8:51] you, Hugo, if you saw that, would you say, I'm not going to accept this or would you [8:52] would you say, I'm not going to accept this or would you [8:53] would you say, I'm not going to accept this or would you receive it? Would you take it? [8:54] accept this or would you receive it? Would you take it? [8:54] accept this or would you receive it? Would you take it? Is there is there some [8:56] receive it? Would you take it? Is there is there some [8:56] receive it? Would you take it? Is there is there some transparency where the the [8:58] Is there is there some transparency where the the [8:58] Is there is there some transparency where the the board can actually say, okay, [9:00] transparency where the the board can actually say, okay, [9:00] transparency where the the board can actually say, okay, we're not going to be accepting [9:02] board can actually say, okay, we're not going to be accepting [9:02] board can actually say, okay, we're not going to be accepting donations from religious [9:04] we're not going to be accepting donations from religious [9:04] we're not going to be accepting donations from religious institutes if it's going to be [9:05] donations from religious institutes if it's going to be [9:05] donations from religious institutes if it's going to be a bribery into the city and [9:09] institutes if it's going to be a bribery into the city and [9:09] institutes if it's going to be a bribery into the city and into it's infiltrating into [9:10] a bribery into the city and into it's infiltrating into [9:10] a bribery into the city and into it's infiltrating into every single job, whether [9:12] into it's infiltrating into every single job, whether [9:12] into it's infiltrating into every single job, whether that's taking care of homeless [9:14] every single job, whether that's taking care of homeless [9:14] every single job, whether that's taking care of homeless people, mental ill, all of that. [9:16] that's taking care of homeless people, mental ill, all of that. [9:16] that's taking care of homeless people, mental ill, all of that. So if there is some sort of [9:18] people, mental ill, all of that. So if there is some sort of [9:18] people, mental ill, all of that. So if there is some sort of ethical person who's not going [9:20] So if there is some sort of ethical person who's not going [9:20] So if there is some sort of ethical person who's not going to cheat people or cheat the [9:22] ethical person who's not going to cheat people or cheat the [9:22] ethical person who's not going to cheat people or cheat the city, or try to get free [9:23] to cheat people or cheat the city, or try to get free [9:23] to cheat people or cheat the city, or try to get free insurance for their second wife, [9:25] city, or try to get free insurance for their second wife, [9:25] city, or try to get free insurance for their second wife, that they shouldn't be married [9:27] insurance for their second wife, that they shouldn't be married [9:27] insurance for their second wife, that they shouldn't be married to, then there needs to be [9:29] that they shouldn't be married to, then there needs to be [9:29] that they shouldn't be married to, then there needs to be somebody on the board that's [9:31] to, then there needs to be somebody on the board that's [9:31] to, then there needs to be somebody on the board that's transparent about this. [9:32] somebody on the board that's transparent about this. [9:32] somebody on the board that's transparent about this. Otherwise I would. I'm going to [9:33] transparent about this. Otherwise I would. I'm going to [9:33] transparent about this. Otherwise I would. I'm going to be digging into this 250 non [9:37] Otherwise I would. I'm going to be digging into this 250 non [9:37] Otherwise I would. I'm going to be digging into this 250 non monetary donation. That seems [9:38] be digging into this 250 non monetary donation. That seems [9:38] be digging into this 250 non monetary donation. That seems like the biggest laundering [9:40] monetary donation. That seems like the biggest laundering [9:40] monetary donation. That seems like the biggest laundering fraud scam when it comes to [9:42] like the biggest laundering fraud scam when it comes to [9:42] like the biggest laundering fraud scam when it comes to religions or even corporations [9:44] fraud scam when it comes to religions or even corporations [9:44] fraud scam when it comes to religions or even corporations or fake organizations hiding [9:45] religions or even corporations or fake organizations hiding [9:45] religions or even corporations or fake organizations hiding behind Scientology's tactics, [9:48] or fake organizations hiding behind Scientology's tactics, [9:48] or fake organizations hiding behind Scientology's tactics, being able to donate that money. [9:50] behind Scientology's tactics, being able to donate that money. [9:50] behind Scientology's tactics, being able to donate that money. And you guys would say nothing [9:51] being able to donate that money. And you guys would say nothing [9:51] being able to donate that money. And you guys would say nothing about it, right. Because you [9:53] And you guys would say nothing about it, right. Because you [9:53] And you guys would say nothing about it, right. Because you could just say, oh, it's [9:55] about it, right. Because you could just say, oh, it's [9:55] about it, right. Because you could just say, oh, it's non-monetary. So there needs to [9:58] could just say, oh, it's non-monetary. So there needs to [9:58] could just say, oh, it's non-monetary. So there needs to be some some ethical person [10:01] non-monetary. So there needs to be some some ethical person [10:01] non-monetary. So there needs to be some some ethical person who's able to monitor or if [10:03] be some some ethical person who's able to monitor or if [10:03] be some some ethical person who's able to monitor or if it's not going to be [10:05] who's able to monitor or if it's not going to be [10:05] who's able to monitor or if it's not going to be transparent to the world, [10:06] it's not going to be transparent to the world, [10:06] it's not going to be transparent to the world, you're going to be able to see [10:07] transparent to the world, you're going to be able to see [10:07] transparent to the world, you're going to be able to see why wouldn't you be transparent [10:09] you're going to be able to see why wouldn't you be transparent [10:09] you're going to be able to see why wouldn't you be transparent anyways to the city where the [10:10] why wouldn't you be transparent anyways to the city where the [10:10] why wouldn't you be transparent anyways to the city where the money is coming that is being [10:12] anyways to the city where the money is coming that is being [10:12] anyways to the city where the money is coming that is being donated to the LAPD. How is [10:15] money is coming that is being donated to the LAPD. How is [10:15] money is coming that is being donated to the LAPD. How is that safety? If your money is [10:17] donated to the LAPD. How is that safety? If your money is [10:17] donated to the LAPD. How is that safety? If your money is literally being donated by [10:19] that safety? If your money is literally being donated by [10:19] that safety? If your money is literally being donated by trafficking human trafficking [10:21] literally being donated by trafficking human trafficking [10:21] literally being donated by trafficking human trafficking cults? So that's a big issue [10:22] trafficking human trafficking cults? So that's a big issue [10:22] trafficking human trafficking cults? So that's a big issue for me. All right. I'm going to [10:24] cults? So that's a big issue for me. All right. I'm going to [10:24] cults? So that's a big issue for me. All right. I'm going to go to my general public comment. [10:28] for me. All right. I'm going to go to my general public comment. [10:28] for me. All right. I'm going to go to my general public comment. And so for the safety of the [10:31] go to my general public comment. And so for the safety of the [10:31] go to my general public comment. And so for the safety of the public, please, we're going to [10:34] And so for the safety of the public, please, we're going to [10:34] And so for the safety of the public, please, we're going to talk about psychiatry and [10:35] public, please, we're going to talk about psychiatry and [10:35] public, please, we're going to talk about psychiatry and mental health and getting [10:38] talk about psychiatry and mental health and getting [10:38] talk about psychiatry and mental health and getting people, even people who want to [10:39] mental health and getting people, even people who want to [10:39] mental health and getting people, even people who want to join the LAPD or any city [10:42] people, even people who want to join the LAPD or any city [10:42] people, even people who want to join the LAPD or any city position. You cannot have [10:44] join the LAPD or any city position. You cannot have [10:44] join the LAPD or any city position. You cannot have people who are saying that they [10:47] position. You cannot have people who are saying that they [10:47] position. You cannot have people who are saying that they an organization who hides [10:48] people who are saying that they an organization who hides [10:48] people who are saying that they an organization who hides behind a religion. Whether we [10:50] an organization who hides behind a religion. Whether we [10:50] an organization who hides behind a religion. Whether we accept that or not, you cannot [10:52] behind a religion. Whether we accept that or not, you cannot [10:52] behind a religion. Whether we accept that or not, you cannot have them dealing or [10:54] accept that or not, you cannot have them dealing or [10:54] accept that or not, you cannot have them dealing or intermingling with Chair with [10:56] have them dealing or intermingling with Chair with [10:56] have them dealing or intermingling with Chair with or with state. To me, that's a [10:58] intermingling with Chair with or with state. To me, that's a [10:58] intermingling with Chair with or with state. To me, that's a big, big problem. So please [11:00] or with state. To me, that's a big, big problem. So please [11:00] or with state. To me, that's a big, big problem. So please check into that. Speaker next [11:01] big, big problem. So please check into that. Speaker next [11:01] big, big problem. So please check into that. Speaker next speaker order LA, you'll have [11:03] check into that. Speaker next speaker order LA, you'll have [11:03] check into that. Speaker next speaker order LA, you'll have two minutes for the item, one [11:04] speaker order LA, you'll have two minutes for the item, one [11:05] speaker order LA, you'll have two minutes for the item, one minute for general, followed by [11:06] two minutes for the item, one minute for general, followed by [11:06] two minutes for the item, one minute for general, followed by the final speaker on the queue, [11:07] minute for general, followed by the final speaker on the queue, [11:07] minute for general, followed by the final speaker on the queue, Ty Foreman. All right. Good [11:09] the final speaker on the queue, Ty Foreman. All right. Good [11:09] the final speaker on the queue, Ty Foreman. All right. Good afternoon. Okay I want to start [11:12] Ty Foreman. All right. Good afternoon. Okay I want to start [11:13] Ty Foreman. All right. Good afternoon. Okay I want to start off with okay. You have a [11:14] afternoon. Okay I want to start off with okay. You have a [11:14] afternoon. Okay I want to start off with okay. You have a person there 90 years old. Okay. [11:16] off with okay. You have a person there 90 years old. Okay. [11:16] off with okay. You have a person there 90 years old. Okay. So say they started working at [11:17] person there 90 years old. Okay. So say they started working at [11:18] person there 90 years old. Okay. So say they started working at 15. That's what, 75 years of [11:20] So say they started working at 15. That's what, 75 years of [11:20] So say they started working at 15. That's what, 75 years of paying taxes. They, you know, [11:23] 15. That's what, 75 years of paying taxes. They, you know, [11:23] 15. That's what, 75 years of paying taxes. They, you know, great citizens raised a family, [11:25] paying taxes. They, you know, great citizens raised a family, [11:25] paying taxes. They, you know, great citizens raised a family, you know. And then now they're [11:26] great citizens raised a family, you know. And then now they're [11:26] great citizens raised a family, you know. And then now they're in a nursing home and they're [11:28] you know. And then now they're in a nursing home and they're [11:28] you know. And then now they're in a nursing home and they're 90 and they fall out of bed and [11:32] in a nursing home and they're 90 and they fall out of bed and [11:32] in a nursing home and they're 90 and they fall out of bed and the nurse has a back ache, a [11:33] 90 and they fall out of bed and the nurse has a back ache, a [11:33] 90 and they fall out of bed and the nurse has a back ache, a really bad back. So they call [11:35] the nurse has a back ache, a really bad back. So they call [11:35] the nurse has a back ache, a really bad back. So they call the fire department to come [11:36] really bad back. So they call the fire department to come [11:37] really bad back. So they call the fire department to come help them lift the, you know, [11:38] the fire department to come help them lift the, you know, [11:38] the fire department to come help them lift the, you know, grandma, your grandmother or [11:40] help them lift the, you know, grandma, your grandmother or [11:40] help them lift the, you know, grandma, your grandmother or grandfather up and get them [11:41] grandma, your grandmother or grandfather up and get them [11:41] grandma, your grandmother or grandfather up and get them back in bed. And you want to [11:43] grandfather up and get them back in bed. And you want to [11:43] grandfather up and get them back in bed. And you want to charge him a fee? Are you [11:44] back in bed. And you want to charge him a fee? Are you [11:44] back in bed. And you want to charge him a fee? Are you kidding me? If you all say yes [11:46] charge him a fee? Are you kidding me? If you all say yes [11:46] charge him a fee? Are you kidding me? If you all say yes to this, I will roast you all [11:48] kidding me? If you all say yes to this, I will roast you all [11:48] kidding me? If you all say yes to this, I will roast you all for the rest of your days on [11:51] to this, I will roast you all for the rest of your days on [11:51] to this, I will roast you all for the rest of your days on this commission. I will not put [11:52] for the rest of your days on this commission. I will not put [11:52] for the rest of your days on this commission. I will not put up with that. That you would do [11:54] this commission. I will not put up with that. That you would do [11:54] this commission. I will not put up with that. That you would do that? Like. How dare you! You [11:56] up with that. That you would do that? Like. How dare you! You [11:56] up with that. That you would do that? Like. How dare you! You want to get fees? Go ask [11:58] that? Like. How dare you! You want to get fees? Go ask [11:58] that? Like. How dare you! You want to get fees? Go ask Scientology. Who doesn't pay [11:59] want to get fees? Go ask Scientology. Who doesn't pay [12:00] want to get fees? Go ask Scientology. Who doesn't pay any taxes. They own all the [12:02] Scientology. Who doesn't pay any taxes. They own all the [12:02] Scientology. Who doesn't pay any taxes. They own all the real estate, the biggest real [12:03] any taxes. They own all the real estate, the biggest real [12:03] any taxes. They own all the real estate, the biggest real estate owners. And they do [12:05] real estate, the biggest real estate owners. And they do [12:05] real estate, the biggest real estate owners. And they do nothing for the city. They [12:06] estate owners. And they do nothing for the city. They [12:06] estate owners. And they do nothing for the city. They don't even pay their fees for [12:08] nothing for the city. They don't even pay their fees for [12:08] nothing for the city. They don't even pay their fees for their events and special events. [12:10] don't even pay their fees for their events and special events. [12:10] don't even pay their fees for their events and special events. But you want to tax grandma [12:12] their events and special events. But you want to tax grandma [12:12] their events and special events. But you want to tax grandma when they fall? Are you kidding [12:14] But you want to tax grandma when they fall? Are you kidding [12:14] But you want to tax grandma when they fall? Are you kidding me? Like for real? You do it [12:17] when they fall? Are you kidding me? Like for real? You do it [12:17] when they fall? Are you kidding me? Like for real? You do it and I will, I will, I'll become [12:19] me? Like for real? You do it and I will, I will, I'll become [12:19] me? Like for real? You do it and I will, I will, I'll become the biggest troll because that [12:20] and I will, I will, I'll become the biggest troll because that [12:20] and I will, I will, I'll become the biggest troll because that is so ridiculous that better? [12:22] the biggest troll because that is so ridiculous that better? [12:22] the biggest troll because that is so ridiculous that better? It better be. No, you're not [12:24] is so ridiculous that better? It better be. No, you're not [12:24] is so ridiculous that better? It better be. No, you're not going to be that desperate for [12:25] It better be. No, you're not going to be that desperate for [12:25] It better be. No, you're not going to be that desperate for money, that you're going to do [12:27] going to be that desperate for money, that you're going to do [12:27] going to be that desperate for money, that you're going to do that to a senior that is so [12:29] money, that you're going to do that to a senior that is so [12:29] money, that you're going to do that to a senior that is so offensive. Like, I'm so [12:30] that to a senior that is so offensive. Like, I'm so [12:30] that to a senior that is so offensive. Like, I'm so offended that that even made it [12:32] offensive. Like, I'm so offended that that even made it [12:32] offensive. Like, I'm so offended that that even made it to the how did it even get? Who [12:34] offended that that even made it to the how did it even get? Who [12:34] offended that that even made it to the how did it even get? Who even recommended that? I don't [12:35] to the how did it even get? Who even recommended that? I don't [12:35] to the how did it even get? Who even recommended that? I don't even look, I hope it wasn't you, [12:37] even recommended that? I don't even look, I hope it wasn't you, [12:37] even recommended that? I don't even look, I hope it wasn't you, Mr. Lee, because I kind of [12:39] even look, I hope it wasn't you, Mr. Lee, because I kind of [12:39] even look, I hope it wasn't you, Mr. Lee, because I kind of liked some of your stuff. It [12:40] Mr. Lee, because I kind of liked some of your stuff. It [12:40] Mr. Lee, because I kind of liked some of your stuff. It better not and Mr. You're not. [12:42] liked some of your stuff. It better not and Mr. You're not. [12:42] liked some of your stuff. It better not and Mr. You're not. You're going to owe me another [12:43] better not and Mr. You're not. You're going to owe me another [12:43] better not and Mr. You're not. You're going to owe me another apology and Mr. Hugo too, [12:44] You're going to owe me another apology and Mr. Hugo too, [12:44] You're going to owe me another apology and Mr. Hugo too, because you're not listening. [12:45] apology and Mr. Hugo too, because you're not listening. [12:45] apology and Mr. Hugo too, because you're not listening. It's my time to talk. You have [12:47] because you're not listening. It's my time to talk. You have [12:47] because you're not listening. It's my time to talk. You have to listen. Thank you, Mr. [12:48] It's my time to talk. You have to listen. Thank you, Mr. [12:48] It's my time to talk. You have to listen. Thank you, Mr. McCusker. Because you do listen, [12:50] to listen. Thank you, Mr. McCusker. Because you do listen, [12:50] to listen. Thank you, Mr. McCusker. Because you do listen, and I appreciate you for that. [12:51] McCusker. Because you do listen, and I appreciate you for that. [12:51] McCusker. Because you do listen, and I appreciate you for that. But you're not going to sit if [12:53] and I appreciate you for that. But you're not going to sit if [12:53] and I appreciate you for that. But you're not going to sit if you do it, so help me. That's [12:55] But you're not going to sit if you do it, so help me. That's [12:55] But you're not going to sit if you do it, so help me. That's ridiculous. Okay, now for the [12:56] you do it, so help me. That's ridiculous. Okay, now for the [12:56] you do it, so help me. That's ridiculous. Okay, now for the human trafficking. Okay. Do you [12:57] ridiculous. Okay, now for the human trafficking. Okay. Do you [12:57] ridiculous. Okay, now for the human trafficking. Okay. Do you understand that? You know, [12:58] human trafficking. Okay. Do you understand that? You know, [12:58] human trafficking. Okay. Do you understand that? You know, there's different kinds of [12:59] understand that? You know, there's different kinds of [12:59] understand that? You know, there's different kinds of human trafficking, and it's [13:00] there's different kinds of human trafficking, and it's [13:00] there's different kinds of human trafficking, and it's human trafficking month. Mr. [13:02] human trafficking, and it's human trafficking month. Mr. [13:02] human trafficking, and it's human trafficking month. Mr. Lee and, Mr. Hugo, do you [13:04] human trafficking month. Mr. Lee and, Mr. Hugo, do you [13:04] human trafficking month. Mr. Lee and, Mr. Hugo, do you realize that Scientology labor [13:06] Lee and, Mr. Hugo, do you realize that Scientology labor [13:06] Lee and, Mr. Hugo, do you realize that Scientology labor traffics people in your area [13:09] realize that Scientology labor traffics people in your area [13:09] realize that Scientology labor traffics people in your area and your district? Mr. Hugo, [13:12] traffics people in your area and your district? Mr. Hugo, [13:12] traffics people in your area and your district? Mr. Hugo, Scientology is human [13:14] and your district? Mr. Hugo, Scientology is human [13:14] and your district? Mr. Hugo, Scientology is human trafficking for labor. They're [13:15] Scientology is human trafficking for labor. They're [13:16] Scientology is human trafficking for labor. They're bringing people from in [13:16] trafficking for labor. They're bringing people from in [13:16] trafficking for labor. They're bringing people from in different countries as [13:18] bringing people from in different countries as [13:18] bringing people from in different countries as indentured servants on R-2 visa, [13:21] different countries as indentured servants on R-2 visa, [13:21] different countries as indentured servants on R-2 visa, okay. So they can work for 110 [13:23] indentured servants on R-2 visa, okay. So they can work for 110 [13:23] indentured servants on R-2 visa, okay. So they can work for 110 hours a week, seven days a week [13:25] okay. So they can work for 110 hours a week, seven days a week [13:25] okay. So they can work for 110 hours a week, seven days a week for $47 at most. And you're [13:28] hours a week, seven days a week for $47 at most. And you're [13:28] hours a week, seven days a week for $47 at most. And you're okay with that. But you know, [13:30] for $47 at most. And you're okay with that. But you know, [13:30] for $47 at most. And you're okay with that. But you know, you're not okay with helping [13:31] okay with that. But you know, you're not okay with helping [13:31] okay with that. But you know, you're not okay with helping Grandma or grandpa falling out [13:33] you're not okay with helping Grandma or grandpa falling out [13:33] you're not okay with helping Grandma or grandpa falling out of a bed. Are you serious? I'm [13:35] Grandma or grandpa falling out of a bed. Are you serious? I'm [13:35] Grandma or grandpa falling out of a bed. Are you serious? I'm so upset about that. And then [13:37] of a bed. Are you serious? I'm so upset about that. And then [13:37] of a bed. Are you serious? I'm so upset about that. And then I'm going to tag on to what [13:39] so upset about that. And then I'm going to tag on to what [13:39] so upset about that. And then I'm going to tag on to what Laura was saying. I am too. [13:41] I'm going to tag on to what Laura was saying. I am too. [13:41] I'm going to tag on to what Laura was saying. I am too. I've been saying it all at the [13:42] Laura was saying. I am too. I've been saying it all at the [13:42] Laura was saying. I am too. I've been saying it all at the police commission's for a long [13:44] I've been saying it all at the police commission's for a long [13:44] I've been saying it all at the police commission's for a long time. You're getting all this [13:45] police commission's for a long time. You're getting all this [13:45] police commission's for a long time. You're getting all this money from the laypeople, and [13:46] time. You're getting all this money from the laypeople, and [13:47] time. You're getting all this money from the laypeople, and you have no idea, because they [13:48] money from the laypeople, and you have no idea, because they [13:48] money from the laypeople, and you have no idea, because they don't have to show where their [13:49] you have no idea, because they don't have to show where their [13:49] you have no idea, because they don't have to show where their money comes from. So [13:50] don't have to show where their money comes from. So [13:50] don't have to show where their money comes from. So Scientology could be giving $1 [13:52] money comes from. So Scientology could be giving $1 [13:52] money comes from. So Scientology could be giving $1 million and then hint, hint, [13:54] Scientology could be giving $1 million and then hint, hint, [13:54] Scientology could be giving $1 million and then hint, hint, wink wink. Chief, we need some [13:55] million and then hint, hint, wink wink. Chief, we need some [13:55] million and then hint, hint, wink wink. Chief, we need some help, okay? And you can't say [13:57] wink wink. Chief, we need some help, okay? And you can't say [13:57] wink wink. Chief, we need some help, okay? And you can't say that's not true, because I know [13:59] help, okay? And you can't say that's not true, because I know [13:59] help, okay? And you can't say that's not true, because I know chief. Chief said, well, that [14:00] that's not true, because I know chief. Chief said, well, that [14:00] that's not true, because I know chief. Chief said, well, that wouldn't happen. I'm like, yes [14:01] chief. Chief said, well, that wouldn't happen. I'm like, yes [14:01] chief. Chief said, well, that wouldn't happen. I'm like, yes it would. You don't think that [14:03] wouldn't happen. I'm like, yes it would. You don't think that [14:03] wouldn't happen. I'm like, yes it would. You don't think that someone gives $1 million. [14:04] it would. You don't think that someone gives $1 million. [14:04] it would. You don't think that someone gives $1 million. They're not going to be saying, [14:05] someone gives $1 million. They're not going to be saying, [14:05] someone gives $1 million. They're not going to be saying, hey, you know what? I gave you [14:07] They're not going to be saying, hey, you know what? I gave you [14:07] They're not going to be saying, hey, you know what? I gave you $1 million. But we don't. [14:08] hey, you know what? I gave you $1 million. But we don't. [14:08] hey, you know what? I gave you $1 million. But we don't. There's no transparency. We [14:09] $1 million. But we don't. There's no transparency. We [14:09] $1 million. But we don't. There's no transparency. We don't get to see it. You still [14:11] There's no transparency. We don't get to see it. You still [14:11] There's no transparency. We don't get to see it. You still owe me an apology, Mr. Lee. [14:13] don't get to see it. You still owe me an apology, Mr. Lee. [14:13] don't get to see it. You still owe me an apology, Mr. Lee. Thank you. Last speaker is Ty [14:14] owe me an apology, Mr. Lee. Thank you. Last speaker is Ty [14:14] owe me an apology, Mr. Lee. Thank you. Last speaker is Ty Foreman. You have one minute [14:15] Thank you. Last speaker is Ty Foreman. You have one minute [14:15] Thank you. Last speaker is Ty Foreman. You have one minute for general comment. Hello and [14:18] Foreman. You have one minute for general comment. Hello and [14:19] Foreman. You have one minute for general comment. Hello and good evening. I believe the [14:21] for general comment. Hello and good evening. I believe the [14:21] for general comment. Hello and good evening. I believe the time is to you all. Thank you [14:23] good evening. I believe the time is to you all. Thank you [14:23] good evening. I believe the time is to you all. Thank you all for being here, attending [14:26] time is to you all. Thank you all for being here, attending [14:26] time is to you all. Thank you all for being here, attending to the public well is an [14:28] all for being here, attending to the public well is an [14:28] all for being here, attending to the public well is an incredible pursuit, and I'm [14:29] to the public well is an incredible pursuit, and I'm [14:29] to the public well is an incredible pursuit, and I'm honored to be on the city [14:31] incredible pursuit, and I'm honored to be on the city [14:31] incredible pursuit, and I'm honored to be on the city participating with that with [14:32] honored to be on the city participating with that with [14:32] honored to be on the city participating with that with you. All my comments are just a [14:34] participating with that with you. All my comments are just a [14:34] participating with that with you. All my comments are just a tertiary awareness motion, I [14:40] you. All my comments are just a tertiary awareness motion, I [14:40] you. All my comments are just a tertiary awareness motion, I suppose, for you all. So [14:42] tertiary awareness motion, I suppose, for you all. So [14:42] tertiary awareness motion, I suppose, for you all. So there's some things that, you [14:44] suppose, for you all. So there's some things that, you [14:44] suppose, for you all. So there's some things that, you know, I think need to be [14:46] there's some things that, you know, I think need to be [14:46] there's some things that, you know, I think need to be addressed and some things I am [14:47] know, I think need to be addressed and some things I am [14:48] know, I think need to be addressed and some things I am going to work with City Council [14:50] addressed and some things I am going to work with City Council [14:50] addressed and some things I am going to work with City Council to address that pertain to [14:52] going to work with City Council to address that pertain to [14:52] going to work with City Council to address that pertain to public safety, the first of [14:54] to address that pertain to public safety, the first of [14:54] to address that pertain to public safety, the first of which are these insects. There [14:56] public safety, the first of which are these insects. There [14:56] public safety, the first of which are these insects. There are insects that I'm finding [14:58] which are these insects. There are insects that I'm finding [14:58] which are these insects. There are insects that I'm finding throughout Los Angeles, [14:59] are insects that I'm finding throughout Los Angeles, [15:00] are insects that I'm finding throughout Los Angeles, Hollywood, from Central City to [15:01] throughout Los Angeles, Hollywood, from Central City to [15:01] throughout Los Angeles, Hollywood, from Central City to Santa Monica. The second has to [15:03] Hollywood, from Central City to Santa Monica. The second has to [15:03] Hollywood, from Central City to Santa Monica. The second has to do with air air quality. It's [15:05] Santa Monica. The second has to do with air air quality. It's [15:05] Santa Monica. The second has to do with air air quality. It's very dynamic. It's interesting. [15:08] do with air air quality. It's very dynamic. It's interesting. [15:08] do with air air quality. It's very dynamic. It's interesting. Something I think is do a [15:10] very dynamic. It's interesting. Something I think is do a [15:10] very dynamic. It's interesting. Something I think is do a report. And the third has to do [15:11] Something I think is do a report. And the third has to do [15:11] Something I think is do a report. And the third has to do with police and fire authority [15:15] report. And the third has to do with police and fire authority [15:15] report. And the third has to do with police and fire authority robotics. That's it. Thank you. [15:17] with police and fire authority robotics. That's it. Thank you. [15:18] with police and fire authority robotics. That's it. Thank you. Thank you. Speaker. Mr. chair, [15:19] robotics. That's it. Thank you. Thank you. Speaker. Mr. chair, [15:19] robotics. That's it. Thank you. Thank you. Speaker. Mr. chair, that concludes public comment. [15:21] Thank you. Speaker. Mr. chair, that concludes public comment. [15:21] Thank you. Speaker. Mr. chair, that concludes public comment. All right. We'll go ahead and [15:22] that concludes public comment. All right. We'll go ahead and [15:22] that concludes public comment. All right. We'll go ahead and close public comment. [15:24] All right. We'll go ahead and close public comment. [15:24] All right. We'll go ahead and close public comment. Colleagues, if there are no [15:25] close public comment. Colleagues, if there are no [15:25] close public comment. Colleagues, if there are no objections, I'd like to take [15:27] Colleagues, if there are no objections, I'd like to take [15:27] Colleagues, if there are no objections, I'd like to take recommend that items two [15:28] objections, I'd like to take recommend that items two [15:28] objections, I'd like to take recommend that items two through ten go for consent with [15:30] recommend that items two through ten go for consent with [15:31] recommend that items two through ten go for consent with the following recommendations. [15:32] through ten go for consent with the following recommendations. [15:32] through ten go for consent with the following recommendations. Item number two adopt the [15:34] the following recommendations. Item number two adopt the [15:35] the following recommendations. Item number two adopt the motion. Item number three adopt [15:36] Item number two adopt the motion. Item number three adopt [15:36] Item number two adopt the motion. Item number three adopt the motion with the amendment. [15:39] motion. Item number three adopt the motion with the amendment. [15:39] motion. Item number three adopt the motion with the amendment. Madam clerk, do you have a copy [15:40] the motion with the amendment. Madam clerk, do you have a copy [15:40] the motion with the amendment. Madam clerk, do you have a copy of Councilmember Martinez's [15:43] Madam clerk, do you have a copy of Councilmember Martinez's [15:43] Madam clerk, do you have a copy of Councilmember Martinez's amendment? Amendment four, [15:45] of Councilmember Martinez's amendment? Amendment four, [15:45] of Councilmember Martinez's amendment? Amendment four, report back item four through [15:46] amendment? Amendment four, report back item four through [15:46] amendment? Amendment four, report back item four through seven to adopt the Motion's [15:48] report back item four through seven to adopt the Motion's [15:48] report back item four through seven to adopt the Motion's items eight through ten to [15:49] seven to adopt the Motion's items eight through ten to [15:50] seven to adopt the Motion's items eight through ten to approve the acceptance of the [15:52] items eight through ten to approve the acceptance of the [15:52] items eight through ten to approve the acceptance of the donations, can you please call [15:53] approve the acceptance of the donations, can you please call [15:53] approve the acceptance of the donations, can you please call a vote on those items? Council [15:56] donations, can you please call a vote on those items? Council [15:56] donations, can you please call a vote on those items? Council member Lee aye, Councilmember [15:59] a vote on those items? Council member Lee aye, Councilmember [15:59] a vote on those items? Council member Lee aye, Councilmember price absent. Council member [16:01] member Lee aye, Councilmember price absent. Council member [16:01] member Lee aye, Councilmember price absent. Council member Mcosker. Yes. Councilmember. [16:03] price absent. Council member Mcosker. Yes. Councilmember. [16:03] price absent. Council member Mcosker. Yes. Councilmember. Martinez. Yes. Councilmember. [16:05] Mcosker. Yes. Councilmember. Martinez. Yes. Councilmember. [16:05] Mcosker. Yes. Councilmember. Martinez. Yes. Councilmember. Park. Yes. Four ayes. These [16:07] Martinez. Yes. Councilmember. Park. Yes. Four ayes. These [16:07] Martinez. Yes. Councilmember. Park. Yes. Four ayes. These items are approved as [16:08] Park. Yes. Four ayes. These items are approved as [16:08] Park. Yes. Four ayes. These items are approved as instructed. All right. Madam [16:09] items are approved as instructed. All right. Madam [16:10] items are approved as instructed. All right. Madam Clerk, can you please call item? [16:11] instructed. All right. Madam Clerk, can you please call item? [16:11] instructed. All right. Madam Clerk, can you please call item? I believe that brings us to [16:12] Clerk, can you please call item? I believe that brings us to [16:12] Clerk, can you please call item? I believe that brings us to item number 11 into the record. [16:14] I believe that brings us to item number 11 into the record. [16:14] I believe that brings us to item number 11 into the record. And if LAPD wouldn't mind [16:16] item number 11 into the record. And if LAPD wouldn't mind [16:17] item number 11 into the record. And if LAPD wouldn't mind coming to the table to answer [16:18] And if LAPD wouldn't mind coming to the table to answer [16:18] And if LAPD wouldn't mind coming to the table to answer questions regarding this, item [16:21] coming to the table to answer questions regarding this, item [16:21] coming to the table to answer questions regarding this, item 11 is consideration of a Board [16:23] questions regarding this, item 11 is consideration of a Board [16:23] questions regarding this, item 11 is consideration of a Board of Police commissioners report [16:24] 11 is consideration of a Board of Police commissioners report [16:24] 11 is consideration of a Board of Police commissioners report relative to the annual [16:25] of Police commissioners report relative to the annual [16:26] of Police commissioners report relative to the annual quadruped Unmanned Ground [16:27] relative to the annual quadruped Unmanned Ground [16:27] relative to the annual quadruped Unmanned Ground Vehicle Inspection report for [16:29] quadruped Unmanned Ground Vehicle Inspection report for [16:29] quadruped Unmanned Ground Vehicle Inspection report for fiscal year 20 2425. All right. [16:33] Vehicle Inspection report for fiscal year 20 2425. All right. [16:33] Vehicle Inspection report for fiscal year 20 2425. All right. Thank you so much for being [16:34] fiscal year 20 2425. All right. Thank you so much for being [16:34] fiscal year 20 2425. All right. Thank you so much for being here. Councilmember Martinez, I [16:35] Thank you so much for being here. Councilmember Martinez, I [16:35] Thank you so much for being here. Councilmember Martinez, I believe you had some questions [16:37] here. Councilmember Martinez, I believe you had some questions [16:37] here. Councilmember Martinez, I believe you had some questions regarding. Yes. Can you just [16:45] believe you had some questions regarding. Yes. Can you just [16:45] believe you had some questions regarding. Yes. Can you just maybe give us a brief, brief, [16:47] regarding. Yes. Can you just maybe give us a brief, brief, [16:47] regarding. Yes. Can you just maybe give us a brief, brief, quick introduction? This one is [16:51] maybe give us a brief, brief, quick introduction? This one is [16:51] maybe give us a brief, brief, quick introduction? This one is can you hear me? Okay. Yeah. [16:53] quick introduction? This one is can you hear me? Okay. Yeah. [16:53] quick introduction? This one is can you hear me? Okay. Yeah. Okay. Good afternoon. During [16:55] can you hear me? Okay. Yeah. Okay. Good afternoon. During [16:55] can you hear me? Okay. Yeah. Okay. Good afternoon. During this inspection period, which [16:56] Okay. Good afternoon. During this inspection period, which [16:57] Okay. Good afternoon. During this inspection period, which covered from July 4th, 2024 [16:59] this inspection period, which covered from July 4th, 2024 [16:59] this inspection period, which covered from July 4th, 2024 through June 30th, 2025, we had [17:03] covered from July 4th, 2024 through June 30th, 2025, we had [17:03] covered from July 4th, 2024 through June 30th, 2025, we had four incidents where the [17:05] through June 30th, 2025, we had four incidents where the [17:05] through June 30th, 2025, we had four incidents where the quadruped unmanned ground [17:06] four incidents where the quadruped unmanned ground [17:06] four incidents where the quadruped unmanned ground vehicle was deployed during our [17:09] quadruped unmanned ground vehicle was deployed during our [17:09] quadruped unmanned ground vehicle was deployed during our encounters with suspects. Each [17:11] vehicle was deployed during our encounters with suspects. Each [17:11] vehicle was deployed during our encounters with suspects. Each of these incidents met the [17:13] encounters with suspects. Each of these incidents met the [17:13] encounters with suspects. Each of these incidents met the criteria for our deployment, [17:14] of these incidents met the criteria for our deployment, [17:15] of these incidents met the criteria for our deployment, which you're very aware of. [17:17] criteria for our deployment, which you're very aware of. [17:17] criteria for our deployment, which you're very aware of. Dated May 30th, 2023, each of [17:20] which you're very aware of. Dated May 30th, 2023, each of [17:20] which you're very aware of. Dated May 30th, 2023, each of these deployments presented [17:21] Dated May 30th, 2023, each of these deployments presented [17:21] Dated May 30th, 2023, each of these deployments presented unique challenges and [17:22] these deployments presented unique challenges and [17:22] these deployments presented unique challenges and environments that tested the [17:24] unique challenges and environments that tested the [17:24] unique challenges and environments that tested the capabilities of our technology. [17:26] environments that tested the capabilities of our technology. [17:26] environments that tested the capabilities of our technology. These incidents presented [17:27] capabilities of our technology. These incidents presented [17:28] capabilities of our technology. These incidents presented obstacles and barriers that our [17:29] These incidents presented obstacles and barriers that our [17:29] These incidents presented obstacles and barriers that our traditional robotics would not [17:31] obstacles and barriers that our traditional robotics would not [17:31] obstacles and barriers that our traditional robotics would not be able to overcome to include [17:33] traditional robotics would not be able to overcome to include [17:33] traditional robotics would not be able to overcome to include closed doors, cluttered living [17:35] be able to overcome to include closed doors, cluttered living [17:35] be able to overcome to include closed doors, cluttered living spaces, and terrain that [17:36] closed doors, cluttered living spaces, and terrain that [17:36] closed doors, cluttered living spaces, and terrain that limited utilizing other [17:38] spaces, and terrain that limited utilizing other [17:38] spaces, and terrain that limited utilizing other robotics or drones in those [17:40] limited utilizing other robotics or drones in those [17:40] limited utilizing other robotics or drones in those areas. In one situation, the [17:43] robotics or drones in those areas. In one situation, the [17:43] robotics or drones in those areas. In one situation, the served as a pathfinder to clear [17:44] areas. In one situation, the served as a pathfinder to clear [17:44] areas. In one situation, the served as a pathfinder to clear an area for our personnel to [17:46] served as a pathfinder to clear an area for our personnel to [17:46] served as a pathfinder to clear an area for our personnel to enter the location. Overall, [17:48] an area for our personnel to enter the location. Overall, [17:48] an area for our personnel to enter the location. Overall, the deployments of the GV [17:50] enter the location. Overall, the deployments of the GV [17:50] enter the location. Overall, the deployments of the GV allowed our operators [17:52] the deployments of the GV allowed our operators [17:52] the deployments of the GV allowed our operators additional tactical options and [17:53] allowed our operators additional tactical options and [17:53] allowed our operators additional tactical options and better situational awareness of [17:54] additional tactical options and better situational awareness of [17:55] additional tactical options and better situational awareness of the suspect's actions in real [17:57] better situational awareness of the suspect's actions in real [17:57] better situational awareness of the suspect's actions in real time. And as stated, we were [18:00] the suspect's actions in real time. And as stated, we were [18:00] the suspect's actions in real time. And as stated, we were met back in 2023. The purpose [18:02] time. And as stated, we were met back in 2023. The purpose [18:02] time. And as stated, we were met back in 2023. The purpose of acquiring this technology [18:04] met back in 2023. The purpose of acquiring this technology [18:05] met back in 2023. The purpose of acquiring this technology was to better protect our [18:06] of acquiring this technology was to better protect our [18:06] of acquiring this technology was to better protect our officers in the community by [18:07] was to better protect our officers in the community by [18:07] was to better protect our officers in the community by de-escalating dangerous [18:09] officers in the community by de-escalating dangerous [18:09] officers in the community by de-escalating dangerous situation situations in the [18:11] de-escalating dangerous situation situations in the [18:11] de-escalating dangerous situation situations in the safest manner possible and [18:12] situation situations in the safest manner possible and [18:12] situation situations in the safest manner possible and providing our tactical [18:13] safest manner possible and providing our tactical [18:13] safest manner possible and providing our tactical operators more options to [18:15] providing our tactical operators more options to [18:15] providing our tactical operators more options to improve the likelihood that [18:16] operators more options to improve the likelihood that [18:16] operators more options to improve the likelihood that these incidents and peacefully, [18:19] improve the likelihood that these incidents and peacefully, [18:19] improve the likelihood that these incidents and peacefully, during these last few years, [18:21] these incidents and peacefully, during these last few years, [18:21] these incidents and peacefully, during these last few years, we've continued to work with [18:22] during these last few years, we've continued to work with [18:22] during these last few years, we've continued to work with the manufacturer, Boston [18:24] we've continued to work with the manufacturer, Boston [18:24] we've continued to work with the manufacturer, Boston Dynamics, and other law [18:25] the manufacturer, Boston Dynamics, and other law [18:25] the manufacturer, Boston Dynamics, and other law enforcement agencies around the [18:26] Dynamics, and other law enforcement agencies around the [18:26] Dynamics, and other law enforcement agencies around the country to review their [18:28] enforcement agencies around the country to review their [18:28] enforcement agencies around the country to review their deployments, as well to assess [18:29] country to review their deployments, as well to assess [18:29] country to review their deployments, as well to assess best practices across the [18:31] deployments, as well to assess best practices across the [18:31] deployments, as well to assess best practices across the country to allow us a better [18:34] best practices across the country to allow us a better [18:34] best practices across the country to allow us a better use of this technology. And I'm [18:36] country to allow us a better use of this technology. And I'm [18:36] country to allow us a better use of this technology. And I'm prepared to answer any [18:37] use of this technology. And I'm prepared to answer any [18:37] use of this technology. And I'm prepared to answer any questions you have regarding [18:38] prepared to answer any questions you have regarding [18:38] prepared to answer any questions you have regarding this report. Thank you. Chief, [18:40] questions you have regarding this report. Thank you. Chief, [18:41] questions you have regarding this report. Thank you. Chief, before we get to Councilmember [18:42] this report. Thank you. Chief, before we get to Councilmember [18:42] this report. Thank you. Chief, before we get to Councilmember Martinez, chief, can you just [18:44] before we get to Councilmember Martinez, chief, can you just [18:44] before we get to Councilmember Martinez, chief, can you just identify yourself? Yeah. I'm [18:46] Martinez, chief, can you just identify yourself? Yeah. I'm [18:46] Martinez, chief, can you just identify yourself? Yeah. I'm sorry. Los Angeles Police [18:47] identify yourself? Yeah. I'm sorry. Los Angeles Police [18:47] identify yourself? Yeah. I'm sorry. Los Angeles Police Department Deputy Chief David [18:49] sorry. Los Angeles Police Department Deputy Chief David [18:49] sorry. Los Angeles Police Department Deputy Chief David Kowalski. Thank you. Thank you. [18:51] Department Deputy Chief David Kowalski. Thank you. Thank you. [18:51] Department Deputy Chief David Kowalski. Thank you. Thank you. I see that all of them are are [18:53] Kowalski. Thank you. Thank you. I see that all of them are are [18:54] Kowalski. Thank you. Thank you. I see that all of them are are some form of the person being [18:57] I see that all of them are are some form of the person being [18:57] I see that all of them are are some form of the person being barricaded. Sounds like that's [19:00] some form of the person being barricaded. Sounds like that's [19:00] some form of the person being barricaded. Sounds like that's going to be the highest use at [19:01] barricaded. Sounds like that's going to be the highest use at [19:01] barricaded. Sounds like that's going to be the highest use at this point. It's just seems [19:04] going to be the highest use at this point. It's just seems [19:04] going to be the highest use at this point. It's just seems like difficult situations where [19:05] this point. It's just seems like difficult situations where [19:05] this point. It's just seems like difficult situations where we don't want to send our [19:07] like difficult situations where we don't want to send our [19:07] like difficult situations where we don't want to send our police officers in. Can you [19:09] we don't want to send our police officers in. Can you [19:09] we don't want to send our police officers in. Can you tell me what that what the [19:10] police officers in. Can you tell me what that what the [19:10] police officers in. Can you tell me what that what the outcome of each of these were? [19:12] tell me what that what the outcome of each of these were? [19:12] tell me what that what the outcome of each of these were? Yes. I can go over each [19:15] outcome of each of these were? Yes. I can go over each [19:15] outcome of each of these were? Yes. I can go over each incidents if you want. Well, [19:19] Yes. I can go over each incidents if you want. Well, [19:19] Yes. I can go over each incidents if you want. Well, what was what was good on each [19:21] incidents if you want. Well, what was what was good on each [19:21] incidents if you want. Well, what was what was good on each of these four deployments? They [19:23] what was what was good on each of these four deployments? They [19:23] what was what was good on each of these four deployments? They were all a little bit different. [19:25] of these four deployments? They were all a little bit different. [19:25] of these four deployments? They were all a little bit different. In one scenario, patrol [19:28] were all a little bit different. In one scenario, patrol [19:28] were all a little bit different. In one scenario, patrol officers had been involved in [19:29] In one scenario, patrol officers had been involved in [19:29] In one scenario, patrol officers had been involved in an officer involved shooting [19:31] officers had been involved in an officer involved shooting [19:31] officers had been involved in an officer involved shooting prior. So they were dealing [19:32] an officer involved shooting prior. So they were dealing [19:32] an officer involved shooting prior. So they were dealing with a a violent suspect. And [19:36] prior. So they were dealing with a a violent suspect. And [19:36] prior. So they were dealing with a a violent suspect. And luckily, because of the way the [19:38] with a a violent suspect. And luckily, because of the way the [19:39] with a a violent suspect. And luckily, because of the way the the setting was like, generally [19:40] luckily, because of the way the the setting was like, generally [19:40] luckily, because of the way the the setting was like, generally when it comes to any type of [19:42] the setting was like, generally when it comes to any type of [19:42] the setting was like, generally when it comes to any type of tactical deployment, especially [19:44] when it comes to any type of tactical deployment, especially [19:44] when it comes to any type of tactical deployment, especially involves Swat, the environment [19:46] tactical deployment, especially involves Swat, the environment [19:46] tactical deployment, especially involves Swat, the environment dictates what our tactics would [19:48] involves Swat, the environment dictates what our tactics would [19:48] involves Swat, the environment dictates what our tactics would be and what type of technology [19:50] dictates what our tactics would be and what type of technology [19:50] dictates what our tactics would be and what type of technology we would use. So in in this [19:53] be and what type of technology we would use. So in in this [19:53] be and what type of technology we would use. So in in this first situation that we had, we [19:55] we would use. So in in this first situation that we had, we [19:55] we would use. So in in this first situation that we had, we had a variety of overgrown [19:58] first situation that we had, we had a variety of overgrown [19:58] first situation that we had, we had a variety of overgrown vegetation, various obstacles [19:59] had a variety of overgrown vegetation, various obstacles [19:59] had a variety of overgrown vegetation, various obstacles in the yard that prevented us [20:02] vegetation, various obstacles in the yard that prevented us [20:02] vegetation, various obstacles in the yard that prevented us to use some of the tracked [20:04] in the yard that prevented us to use some of the tracked [20:04] in the yard that prevented us to use some of the tracked robots that we use on general [20:07] to use some of the tracked robots that we use on general [20:07] to use some of the tracked robots that we use on general deployments. We were able to [20:09] robots that we use on general deployments. We were able to [20:09] robots that we use on general deployments. We were able to utilize the the robot that day, [20:12] deployments. We were able to utilize the the robot that day, [20:12] deployments. We were able to utilize the the robot that day, and even to the point where we [20:14] utilize the the robot that day, and even to the point where we [20:14] utilize the the robot that day, and even to the point where we opened the door, we were able [20:15] and even to the point where we opened the door, we were able [20:15] and even to the point where we opened the door, we were able to get in a room. And, you know, [20:18] opened the door, we were able to get in a room. And, you know, [20:18] opened the door, we were able to get in a room. And, you know, that allowed us to encounter [20:20] to get in a room. And, you know, that allowed us to encounter [20:20] to get in a room. And, you know, that allowed us to encounter the suspect safely and then [20:22] that allowed us to encounter the suspect safely and then [20:22] that allowed us to encounter the suspect safely and then take him into custody in the [20:26] the suspect safely and then take him into custody in the [20:26] the suspect safely and then take him into custody in the the in that incident, the [20:28] take him into custody in the the in that incident, the [20:28] take him into custody in the the in that incident, the second one, this one occurred [20:31] the in that incident, the second one, this one occurred [20:32] the in that incident, the second one, this one occurred involving Hollywood area patrol [20:34] second one, this one occurred involving Hollywood area patrol [20:34] second one, this one occurred involving Hollywood area patrol officers, and they were dealing [20:36] involving Hollywood area patrol officers, and they were dealing [20:36] involving Hollywood area patrol officers, and they were dealing with a person who was in [20:37] officers, and they were dealing with a person who was in [20:37] officers, and they were dealing with a person who was in possession of an ax. So this [20:38] with a person who was in possession of an ax. So this [20:39] with a person who was in possession of an ax. So this was a multi level apartment [20:41] possession of an ax. So this was a multi level apartment [20:41] possession of an ax. So this was a multi level apartment building and Swat was called [20:43] was a multi level apartment building and Swat was called [20:43] was a multi level apartment building and Swat was called into this. So as the as we were [20:48] building and Swat was called into this. So as the as we were [20:48] building and Swat was called into this. So as the as we were encountering the situation [20:49] into this. So as the as we were encountering the situation [20:49] into this. So as the as we were encountering the situation similar to the first situation, [20:50] encountering the situation similar to the first situation, [20:50] encountering the situation similar to the first situation, we had an excessive amount of [20:52] similar to the first situation, we had an excessive amount of [20:52] similar to the first situation, we had an excessive amount of debris. And the suspect, he [20:54] we had an excessive amount of debris. And the suspect, he [20:54] we had an excessive amount of debris. And the suspect, he refused to to exit the building. [20:57] debris. And the suspect, he refused to to exit the building. [20:57] debris. And the suspect, he refused to to exit the building. So where we we deployed the [21:00] refused to to exit the building. So where we we deployed the [21:00] refused to to exit the building. So where we we deployed the robot, the we were able to use [21:03] So where we we deployed the robot, the we were able to use [21:03] So where we we deployed the robot, the we were able to use the sort of the thermal camera [21:05] robot, the we were able to use the sort of the thermal camera [21:05] robot, the we were able to use the sort of the thermal camera on the robot and that indicated [21:08] the sort of the thermal camera on the robot and that indicated [21:08] the sort of the thermal camera on the robot and that indicated where he was because he was [21:10] on the robot and that indicated where he was because he was [21:10] on the robot and that indicated where he was because he was actually hiding under a large [21:12] where he was because he was actually hiding under a large [21:13] where he was because he was actually hiding under a large amount of debris in the in the [21:15] actually hiding under a large amount of debris in the in the [21:15] actually hiding under a large amount of debris in the in the room. So we we called him out [21:18] amount of debris in the in the room. So we we called him out [21:18] amount of debris in the in the room. So we we called him out and we took him into custody [21:19] room. So we we called him out and we took him into custody [21:19] room. So we we called him out and we took him into custody then. So we're using different [21:21] and we took him into custody then. So we're using different [21:22] and we took him into custody then. So we're using different parts of the technology of this [21:24] then. So we're using different parts of the technology of this [21:24] then. So we're using different parts of the technology of this robot to safely take these [21:25] parts of the technology of this robot to safely take these [21:25] parts of the technology of this robot to safely take these people into custody. So in both [21:27] robot to safely take these people into custody. So in both [21:27] robot to safely take these people into custody. So in both incidents, no officer involved [21:28] people into custody. So in both incidents, no officer involved [21:28] people into custody. So in both incidents, no officer involved shooting, which was which was [21:30] incidents, no officer involved shooting, which was which was [21:30] incidents, no officer involved shooting, which was which was good. And the person we took [21:31] shooting, which was which was good. And the person we took [21:31] shooting, which was which was good. And the person we took into custody was safe. Third [21:34] good. And the person we took into custody was safe. Third [21:34] good. And the person we took into custody was safe. Third one occurred down in the the [21:36] into custody was safe. Third one occurred down in the the [21:36] into custody was safe. Third one occurred down in the the harbor area of the city. And [21:39] one occurred down in the the harbor area of the city. And [21:39] one occurred down in the the harbor area of the city. And initially patrol officers had [21:41] harbor area of the city. And initially patrol officers had [21:41] harbor area of the city. And initially patrol officers had responded to a radio call of a [21:43] initially patrol officers had responded to a radio call of a [21:43] initially patrol officers had responded to a radio call of a suspect causing a disturbance. [21:45] responded to a radio call of a suspect causing a disturbance. [21:45] responded to a radio call of a suspect causing a disturbance. He was he was armed with a [21:46] suspect causing a disturbance. He was he was armed with a [21:46] suspect causing a disturbance. He was he was armed with a firearm at that point. And so [21:48] He was he was armed with a firearm at that point. And so [21:48] He was he was armed with a firearm at that point. And so he was in a shed area. And so [21:51] firearm at that point. And so he was in a shed area. And so [21:51] firearm at that point. And so he was in a shed area. And so in this in this incident, there [21:56] he was in a shed area. And so in this in this incident, there [21:56] he was in a shed area. And so in this in this incident, there were several obstacles that [21:58] in this in this incident, there were several obstacles that [21:58] in this in this incident, there were several obstacles that would have hindered the use of [21:59] were several obstacles that would have hindered the use of [22:00] were several obstacles that would have hindered the use of traditional tracked robots to [22:01] would have hindered the use of traditional tracked robots to [22:01] would have hindered the use of traditional tracked robots to get. I mean, if you looked at [22:02] traditional tracked robots to get. I mean, if you looked at [22:02] traditional tracked robots to get. I mean, if you looked at this yard, it was it was [22:05] get. I mean, if you looked at this yard, it was it was [22:05] get. I mean, if you looked at this yard, it was it was impenetrable almost by feet. So [22:07] this yard, it was it was impenetrable almost by feet. So [22:07] this yard, it was it was impenetrable almost by feet. So we we did use the, the [22:10] impenetrable almost by feet. So we we did use the, the [22:10] impenetrable almost by feet. So we we did use the, the unfortunately in this one, even [22:12] we we did use the, the unfortunately in this one, even [22:12] we we did use the, the unfortunately in this one, even the environment prevented us [22:15] unfortunately in this one, even the environment prevented us [22:15] unfortunately in this one, even the environment prevented us from prevented that robot to [22:19] the environment prevented us from prevented that robot to [22:20] the environment prevented us from prevented that robot to maneuver through it. It [22:21] from prevented that robot to maneuver through it. It [22:21] from prevented that robot to maneuver through it. It actually fell into a ditch. We [22:23] maneuver through it. It actually fell into a ditch. We [22:23] maneuver through it. It actually fell into a ditch. We did though, use the camera. I [22:25] actually fell into a ditch. We did though, use the camera. I [22:25] actually fell into a ditch. We did though, use the camera. I mean, it was on its side for [22:27] did though, use the camera. I mean, it was on its side for [22:27] did though, use the camera. I mean, it was on its side for spot. Yeah, he poor spot. And [22:30] mean, it was on its side for spot. Yeah, he poor spot. And [22:30] mean, it was on its side for spot. Yeah, he poor spot. And so we were able to use the [22:32] spot. Yeah, he poor spot. And so we were able to use the [22:32] spot. Yeah, he poor spot. And so we were able to use the camera in that deployment even [22:33] so we were able to use the camera in that deployment even [22:33] so we were able to use the camera in that deployment even to give us some situational [22:35] camera in that deployment even to give us some situational [22:35] camera in that deployment even to give us some situational awareness, because this was a [22:36] to give us some situational awareness, because this was a [22:36] to give us some situational awareness, because this was a very violent suspect and that [22:38] awareness, because this was a very violent suspect and that [22:38] awareness, because this was a very violent suspect and that was actually involved in a, in [22:40] very violent suspect and that was actually involved in a, in [22:40] very violent suspect and that was actually involved in a, in an officer involved shooting. [22:41] was actually involved in a, in an officer involved shooting. [22:41] was actually involved in a, in an officer involved shooting. But we we did we did utilize [22:44] an officer involved shooting. But we we did we did utilize [22:44] an officer involved shooting. But we we did we did utilize the best we could in that [22:46] But we we did we did utilize the best we could in that [22:46] But we we did we did utilize the best we could in that situation. So and then finally, [22:50] the best we could in that situation. So and then finally, [22:50] the best we could in that situation. So and then finally, I'm sorry, the last one was in [22:55] situation. So and then finally, I'm sorry, the last one was in [22:55] situation. So and then finally, I'm sorry, the last one was in the in the 77th area of the [22:56] I'm sorry, the last one was in the in the 77th area of the [22:57] I'm sorry, the last one was in the in the 77th area of the city, there was a radio call [22:58] the in the 77th area of the city, there was a radio call [22:58] the in the 77th area of the city, there was a radio call where the suspect was actually [23:00] city, there was a radio call where the suspect was actually [23:00] city, there was a radio call where the suspect was actually pointing a rifle at numerous [23:02] where the suspect was actually pointing a rifle at numerous [23:02] where the suspect was actually pointing a rifle at numerous people. This was in the 6600 [23:04] pointing a rifle at numerous people. This was in the 6600 [23:04] pointing a rifle at numerous people. This was in the 6600 block of South Figueroa. And [23:06] people. This was in the 6600 block of South Figueroa. And [23:06] people. This was in the 6600 block of South Figueroa. And then the suspect had barricaded [23:08] block of South Figueroa. And then the suspect had barricaded [23:08] block of South Figueroa. And then the suspect had barricaded himself in a second story [23:10] then the suspect had barricaded himself in a second story [23:10] then the suspect had barricaded himself in a second story apartment building. And when [23:13] himself in a second story apartment building. And when [23:13] himself in a second story apartment building. And when Swat arrived, we did see him [23:17] apartment building. And when Swat arrived, we did see him [23:17] apartment building. And when Swat arrived, we did see him holding, holding a weapon. And [23:20] Swat arrived, we did see him holding, holding a weapon. And [23:20] Swat arrived, we did see him holding, holding a weapon. And in that case there was an [23:21] holding, holding a weapon. And in that case there was an [23:21] holding, holding a weapon. And in that case there was an officer involved shooting from [23:23] in that case there was an officer involved shooting from [23:23] in that case there was an officer involved shooting from that. But the the robot was [23:27] officer involved shooting from that. But the the robot was [23:27] officer involved shooting from that. But the the robot was able to kind of maneuver [23:29] that. But the the robot was able to kind of maneuver [23:29] that. But the the robot was able to kind of maneuver through the area, and it [23:33] able to kind of maneuver through the area, and it [23:33] able to kind of maneuver through the area, and it allowed us to. Travel through [23:37] through the area, and it allowed us to. Travel through [23:37] through the area, and it allowed us to. Travel through the the apartment floors and [23:39] allowed us to. Travel through the the apartment floors and [23:39] allowed us to. Travel through the the apartment floors and then kind of move some of the [23:41] the the apartment floors and then kind of move some of the [23:41] the the apartment floors and then kind of move some of the obstructions that were there. [23:42] then kind of move some of the obstructions that were there. [23:42] then kind of move some of the obstructions that were there. And then it helped us really [23:44] obstructions that were there. And then it helped us really [23:44] obstructions that were there. And then it helped us really clear a pathway for the [23:45] And then it helped us really clear a pathway for the [23:45] And then it helped us really clear a pathway for the officers to eventually safely [23:47] clear a pathway for the officers to eventually safely [23:47] clear a pathway for the officers to eventually safely move into the building and then [23:48] officers to eventually safely move into the building and then [23:48] officers to eventually safely move into the building and then take him into custody. So [23:50] move into the building and then take him into custody. So [23:50] move into the building and then take him into custody. So there's a variety of of [23:52] take him into custody. So there's a variety of of [23:52] take him into custody. So there's a variety of of deployments here. But really, [23:53] there's a variety of of deployments here. But really, [23:53] there's a variety of of deployments here. But really, for that whole year, I mean, [23:55] deployments here. But really, for that whole year, I mean, [23:55] deployments here. But really, for that whole year, I mean, four incidents or incidents [23:57] for that whole year, I mean, four incidents or incidents [23:57] for that whole year, I mean, four incidents or incidents where we've used it, where Swat [23:59] four incidents or incidents where we've used it, where Swat [23:59] four incidents or incidents where we've used it, where Swat normally deploys during a year, [24:01] where we've used it, where Swat normally deploys during a year, [24:01] where we've used it, where Swat normally deploys during a year, probably 125 to 130 deployments [24:04] normally deploys during a year, probably 125 to 130 deployments [24:04] normally deploys during a year, probably 125 to 130 deployments a year. So we're using it very [24:07] probably 125 to 130 deployments a year. So we're using it very [24:07] probably 125 to 130 deployments a year. So we're using it very judiciously in compliance with [24:09] a year. So we're using it very judiciously in compliance with [24:09] a year. So we're using it very judiciously in compliance with the the policy. But, you know, [24:12] judiciously in compliance with the the policy. But, you know, [24:12] judiciously in compliance with the the policy. But, you know, we're trying to look at [24:13] the the policy. But, you know, we're trying to look at [24:14] the the policy. But, you know, we're trying to look at different ways of of utilizing [24:17] we're trying to look at different ways of of utilizing [24:17] we're trying to look at different ways of of utilizing it in the best way possible. So [24:18] different ways of of utilizing it in the best way possible. So [24:18] different ways of of utilizing it in the best way possible. So I hope that answers your [24:19] it in the best way possible. So I hope that answers your [24:20] it in the best way possible. So I hope that answers your question, sir. No, thank you [24:21] I hope that answers your question, sir. No, thank you [24:21] I hope that answers your question, sir. No, thank you for for the thorough report. I [24:22] question, sir. No, thank you for for the thorough report. I [24:22] question, sir. No, thank you for for the thorough report. I mean, in two instances, the the [24:26] for for the thorough report. I mean, in two instances, the the [24:26] for for the thorough report. I mean, in two instances, the the technology ended in, you know, [24:28] mean, in two instances, the the technology ended in, you know, [24:28] mean, in two instances, the the technology ended in, you know, an ideal situation, being able [24:30] technology ended in, you know, an ideal situation, being able [24:30] technology ended in, you know, an ideal situation, being able to open the door and the [24:32] an ideal situation, being able to open the door and the [24:32] an ideal situation, being able to open the door and the thermal camera. And in the [24:33] to open the door and the thermal camera. And in the [24:34] to open the door and the thermal camera. And in the other two, it sounds like it [24:35] thermal camera. And in the other two, it sounds like it [24:35] thermal camera. And in the other two, it sounds like it gave you an ability to having [24:37] other two, it sounds like it gave you an ability to having [24:37] other two, it sounds like it gave you an ability to having more information and awareness, [24:38] gave you an ability to having more information and awareness, [24:38] gave you an ability to having more information and awareness, I think was helpful, even [24:40] more information and awareness, I think was helpful, even [24:40] more information and awareness, I think was helpful, even though, you know, they were [24:42] I think was helpful, even though, you know, they were [24:42] I think was helpful, even though, you know, they were didn't end in ideal situation [24:44] though, you know, they were didn't end in ideal situation [24:45] though, you know, they were didn't end in ideal situation with officer involved shooting. [24:46] didn't end in ideal situation with officer involved shooting. [24:46] didn't end in ideal situation with officer involved shooting. But yeah, I mean, look, this [24:48] with officer involved shooting. But yeah, I mean, look, this [24:48] with officer involved shooting. But yeah, I mean, look, this was an item that came up, I [24:50] But yeah, I mean, look, this was an item that came up, I [24:50] But yeah, I mean, look, this was an item that came up, I think my first year. And, you [24:51] was an item that came up, I think my first year. And, you [24:51] was an item that came up, I think my first year. And, you know, there was a lot of [24:53] think my first year. And, you know, there was a lot of [24:53] think my first year. And, you know, there was a lot of stories about it. And, you know, [24:55] know, there was a lot of stories about it. And, you know, [24:55] know, there was a lot of stories about it. And, you know, little dystopian and and you [24:57] stories about it. And, you know, little dystopian and and you [24:58] stories about it. And, you know, little dystopian and and you know, I want to and the report, [24:59] little dystopian and and you know, I want to and the report, [24:59] little dystopian and and you know, I want to and the report, the reports are sort of helpful [25:01] know, I want to and the report, the reports are sort of helpful [25:01] know, I want to and the report, the reports are sort of helpful for me and understanding like, [25:03] the reports are sort of helpful for me and understanding like, [25:03] the reports are sort of helpful for me and understanding like, you know, where they were [25:04] for me and understanding like, you know, where they were [25:04] for me and understanding like, you know, where they were helpful. It sounds like all [25:06] you know, where they were helpful. It sounds like all [25:06] you know, where they were helpful. It sounds like all four situations, the technology [25:08] helpful. It sounds like all four situations, the technology [25:08] helpful. It sounds like all four situations, the technology that we currently have would [25:10] four situations, the technology that we currently have would [25:10] four situations, the technology that we currently have would not. Yes, not have been helpful, [25:12] that we currently have would not. Yes, not have been helpful, [25:12] that we currently have would not. Yes, not have been helpful, even though, again, not an [25:13] not. Yes, not have been helpful, even though, again, not an [25:13] not. Yes, not have been helpful, even though, again, not an ideal situation if you have two [25:14] even though, again, not an ideal situation if you have two [25:14] even though, again, not an ideal situation if you have two officer involved shootings. But [25:17] ideal situation if you have two officer involved shootings. But [25:17] ideal situation if you have two officer involved shootings. But yeah I appreciate your [25:18] officer involved shootings. But yeah I appreciate your [25:18] officer involved shootings. But yeah I appreciate your appreciate your report. Yeah. [25:19] yeah I appreciate your appreciate your report. Yeah. [25:19] yeah I appreciate your appreciate your report. Yeah. Thank you sir. Yeah. Colleagues [25:22] appreciate your report. Yeah. Thank you sir. Yeah. Colleagues [25:22] appreciate your report. Yeah. Thank you sir. Yeah. Colleagues any other questions for chief [25:25] Thank you sir. Yeah. Colleagues any other questions for chief [25:25] Thank you sir. Yeah. Colleagues any other questions for chief okay. Seeing none I'd like to [25:26] any other questions for chief okay. Seeing none I'd like to [25:26] any other questions for chief okay. Seeing none I'd like to recommend that we note and file [25:28] okay. Seeing none I'd like to recommend that we note and file [25:28] okay. Seeing none I'd like to recommend that we note and file this report. Clerk. Thank you, [25:30] recommend that we note and file this report. Clerk. Thank you, [25:30] recommend that we note and file this report. Clerk. Thank you, chief, for joining us. Okay. [25:32] this report. Clerk. Thank you, chief, for joining us. Okay. [25:32] this report. Clerk. Thank you, chief, for joining us. Okay. Thank you. Madam clerk, can you [25:33] chief, for joining us. Okay. Thank you. Madam clerk, can you [25:33] chief, for joining us. Okay. Thank you. Madam clerk, can you please call the And this [25:35] Thank you. Madam clerk, can you please call the And this [25:35] Thank you. Madam clerk, can you please call the And this Council member Lee? Aye. [25:37] please call the And this Council member Lee? Aye. [25:37] please call the And this Council member Lee? Aye. Council member price. Absent. [25:38] Council member Lee? Aye. Council member price. Absent. [25:38] Council member Lee? Aye. Council member price. Absent. Council member. Mcosker. Yes. [25:40] Council member price. Absent. Council member. Mcosker. Yes. [25:40] Council member price. Absent. Council member. Mcosker. Yes. Council member. Martinez. Yes. [25:42] Council member. Mcosker. Yes. Council member. Martinez. Yes. [25:43] Council member. Mcosker. Yes. Council member. Martinez. Yes. Council member. Park. Yes. Four [25:45] Council member. Martinez. Yes. Council member. Park. Yes. Four [25:45] Council member. Martinez. Yes. Council member. Park. Yes. Four ayes. This item will be noted [25:46] Council member. Park. Yes. Four ayes. This item will be noted [25:46] Council member. Park. Yes. Four ayes. This item will be noted and filed. Okay. I believe that [25:48] ayes. This item will be noted and filed. Okay. I believe that [25:48] ayes. This item will be noted and filed. Okay. I believe that brings us to item number one. [25:50] and filed. Okay. I believe that brings us to item number one. [25:50] and filed. Okay. I believe that brings us to item number one. Can you please read item number [25:51] brings us to item number one. Can you please read item number [25:51] brings us to item number one. Can you please read item number one into the record? Item one [25:53] Can you please read item number one into the record? Item one [25:53] Can you please read item number one into the record? Item one is consideration of a Board of [25:55] one into the record? Item one is consideration of a Board of [25:55] one into the record? Item one is consideration of a Board of Police Commissioners report [25:56] is consideration of a Board of Police Commissioners report [25:56] is consideration of a Board of Police Commissioners report relative to the revised basic [25:58] Police Commissioners report relative to the revised basic [25:58] Police Commissioners report relative to the revised basic Car Plan and Department Control [25:59] relative to the revised basic Car Plan and Department Control [25:59] relative to the revised basic Car Plan and Department Control plan for 20 2526. Oh my gosh. [26:12] Car Plan and Department Control plan for 20 2526. Oh my gosh. [26:12] Car Plan and Department Control plan for 20 2526. Oh my gosh. Thank you for joining us at the [26:14] plan for 20 2526. Oh my gosh. Thank you for joining us at the [26:14] plan for 20 2526. Oh my gosh. Thank you for joining us at the table. If you would like to [26:15] Thank you for joining us at the table. If you would like to [26:15] Thank you for joining us at the table. If you would like to give us a brief summary of your [26:17] table. If you would like to give us a brief summary of your [26:17] table. If you would like to give us a brief summary of your report, chief. Absolutely. Good [26:19] give us a brief summary of your report, chief. Absolutely. Good [26:19] give us a brief summary of your report, chief. Absolutely. Good afternoon, council members. My [26:20] report, chief. Absolutely. Good afternoon, council members. My [26:20] report, chief. Absolutely. Good afternoon, council members. My name is Amanda Tingirides. I am [26:22] afternoon, council members. My name is Amanda Tingirides. I am [26:22] afternoon, council members. My name is Amanda Tingirides. I am the director of the Office of [26:25] name is Amanda Tingirides. I am the director of the Office of [26:25] name is Amanda Tingirides. I am the director of the Office of Operations. And with me today I [26:26] the director of the Office of Operations. And with me today I [26:26] the director of the Office of Operations. And with me today I have the assistant director of [26:28] Operations. And with me today I have the assistant director of [26:28] Operations. And with me today I have the assistant director of the Office of Operations [26:29] have the assistant director of the Office of Operations [26:29] have the assistant director of the Office of Operations Commander Brian, Liam and our [26:31] the Office of Operations Commander Brian, Liam and our [26:31] the Office of Operations Commander Brian, Liam and our sergeant that oversees our [26:33] Commander Brian, Liam and our sergeant that oversees our [26:33] Commander Brian, Liam and our sergeant that oversees our field deployment unit, Sergeant [26:35] sergeant that oversees our field deployment unit, Sergeant [26:35] sergeant that oversees our field deployment unit, Sergeant John Alipio. So thank you for [26:37] field deployment unit, Sergeant John Alipio. So thank you for [26:37] field deployment unit, Sergeant John Alipio. So thank you for having us today. As you know, [26:40] John Alipio. So thank you for having us today. As you know, [26:40] John Alipio. So thank you for having us today. As you know, in the mayor's proposed budget, [26:42] having us today. As you know, in the mayor's proposed budget, [26:42] having us today. As you know, in the mayor's proposed budget, the LAPD was asked to look at [26:44] in the mayor's proposed budget, the LAPD was asked to look at [26:44] in the mayor's proposed budget, the LAPD was asked to look at our basic car plan as well as [26:47] the LAPD was asked to look at our basic car plan as well as [26:47] the LAPD was asked to look at our basic car plan as well as our patrol plan for the 2025, [26:50] our basic car plan as well as our patrol plan for the 2025, [26:50] our basic car plan as well as our patrol plan for the 2025, 2026 year. When we did that, we [26:53] our patrol plan for the 2025, 2026 year. When we did that, we [26:53] our patrol plan for the 2025, 2026 year. When we did that, we parceled it out into two [26:55] 2026 year. When we did that, we parceled it out into two [26:55] 2026 year. When we did that, we parceled it out into two separate subjects. We looked at [26:58] parceled it out into two separate subjects. We looked at [26:58] parceled it out into two separate subjects. We looked at our basic car plan and the [27:00] separate subjects. We looked at our basic car plan and the [27:00] separate subjects. We looked at our basic car plan and the feasibility of being able to [27:03] our basic car plan and the feasibility of being able to [27:04] our basic car plan and the feasibility of being able to change it or redraw lines. And [27:07] feasibility of being able to change it or redraw lines. And [27:07] feasibility of being able to change it or redraw lines. And we found that that would be a [27:09] change it or redraw lines. And we found that that would be a [27:09] change it or redraw lines. And we found that that would be a difficult task for several [27:11] we found that that would be a difficult task for several [27:11] we found that that would be a difficult task for several reasons. One, we'd have to go [27:12] difficult task for several reasons. One, we'd have to go [27:12] difficult task for several reasons. One, we'd have to go to an RFP in order to do that. [27:15] reasons. One, we'd have to go to an RFP in order to do that. [27:15] reasons. One, we'd have to go to an RFP in order to do that. There'd be consideration for [27:17] to an RFP in order to do that. There'd be consideration for [27:17] to an RFP in order to do that. There'd be consideration for reassessment of boundaries and [27:19] There'd be consideration for reassessment of boundaries and [27:19] There'd be consideration for reassessment of boundaries and maps, and it would cost a [27:21] reassessment of boundaries and maps, and it would cost a [27:22] reassessment of boundaries and maps, and it would cost a significant amount of funding [27:24] maps, and it would cost a significant amount of funding [27:24] maps, and it would cost a significant amount of funding to be able to do that. As you [27:26] significant amount of funding to be able to do that. As you [27:26] significant amount of funding to be able to do that. As you know, at each patrol division, [27:28] to be able to do that. As you know, at each patrol division, [27:28] to be able to do that. As you know, at each patrol division, we have anywhere between 6 and [27:30] know, at each patrol division, we have anywhere between 6 and [27:30] know, at each patrol division, we have anywhere between 6 and 11 basic A cars, for a total of [27:33] we have anywhere between 6 and 11 basic A cars, for a total of [27:33] we have anywhere between 6 and 11 basic A cars, for a total of 168 basic cars across the city. [27:38] 11 basic A cars, for a total of 168 basic cars across the city. [27:38] 11 basic A cars, for a total of 168 basic cars across the city. And so perhaps in the future, [27:39] 168 basic cars across the city. And so perhaps in the future, [27:40] 168 basic cars across the city. And so perhaps in the future, this is something that we we [27:41] And so perhaps in the future, this is something that we we [27:41] And so perhaps in the future, this is something that we we can look at, but we didn't see [27:43] this is something that we we can look at, but we didn't see [27:43] this is something that we we can look at, but we didn't see it as being feasible for the [27:46] can look at, but we didn't see it as being feasible for the [27:46] can look at, but we didn't see it as being feasible for the 2526 year as it relates to the [27:50] it as being feasible for the 2526 year as it relates to the [27:50] it as being feasible for the 2526 year as it relates to the patrol plan that was adopted in [27:52] 2526 year as it relates to the patrol plan that was adopted in [27:52] 2526 year as it relates to the patrol plan that was adopted in 1988, and it was adopted off [27:54] patrol plan that was adopted in 1988, and it was adopted off [27:54] patrol plan that was adopted in 1988, and it was adopted off the premises of a 740, a seven [27:57] 1988, and it was adopted off the premises of a 740, a seven [27:57] 1988, and it was adopted off the premises of a 740, a seven minute response time to a radio [27:59] the premises of a 740, a seven minute response time to a radio [27:59] the premises of a 740, a seven minute response time to a radio call, and 40% of that time [28:01] minute response time to a radio call, and 40% of that time [28:01] minute response time to a radio call, and 40% of that time being proactive. Policing. The [28:05] call, and 40% of that time being proactive. Policing. The [28:05] call, and 40% of that time being proactive. Policing. The LAPD utilizes different [28:08] being proactive. Policing. The LAPD utilizes different [28:08] being proactive. Policing. The LAPD utilizes different workload algorithms and 25 [28:11] LAPD utilizes different workload algorithms and 25 [28:11] LAPD utilizes different workload algorithms and 25 categories that helps us [28:14] workload algorithms and 25 categories that helps us [28:14] workload algorithms and 25 categories that helps us identify how many basic cars [28:17] categories that helps us identify how many basic cars [28:17] categories that helps us identify how many basic cars each division needs. The LAPD [28:20] identify how many basic cars each division needs. The LAPD [28:20] identify how many basic cars each division needs. The LAPD had not had not revised our Our [28:24] each division needs. The LAPD had not had not revised our Our [28:24] each division needs. The LAPD had not had not revised our Our patrol plan since 2023. And so [28:28] had not had not revised our Our patrol plan since 2023. And so [28:28] had not had not revised our Our patrol plan since 2023. And so with this ask and with the [28:30] patrol plan since 2023. And so with this ask and with the [28:30] patrol plan since 2023. And so with this ask and with the reorganization of our [28:31] with this ask and with the reorganization of our [28:31] with this ask and with the reorganization of our department, we looked at our [28:34] reorganization of our department, we looked at our [28:34] reorganization of our department, we looked at our basic patrol plan, basic car [28:38] department, we looked at our basic patrol plan, basic car [28:38] department, we looked at our basic patrol plan, basic car plan, and we revised it. And [28:41] basic patrol plan, basic car plan, and we revised it. And [28:41] basic patrol plan, basic car plan, and we revised it. And with that, we came out with new [28:43] plan, and we revised it. And with that, we came out with new [28:43] plan, and we revised it. And with that, we came out with new numbers for each division. And [28:45] with that, we came out with new numbers for each division. And [28:45] with that, we came out with new numbers for each division. And what we identified is there [28:47] numbers for each division. And what we identified is there [28:47] numbers for each division. And what we identified is there were some divisions that fell [28:49] what we identified is there were some divisions that fell [28:49] what we identified is there were some divisions that fell short and the number of [28:50] were some divisions that fell short and the number of [28:50] were some divisions that fell short and the number of officers that they would need. [28:52] short and the number of officers that they would need. [28:52] short and the number of officers that they would need. Since this report was presented [28:54] officers that they would need. Since this report was presented [28:54] officers that they would need. Since this report was presented to our Board of Police [28:56] Since this report was presented to our Board of Police [28:56] Since this report was presented to our Board of Police Commissioners, we've seen a [28:57] to our Board of Police Commissioners, we've seen a [28:57] to our Board of Police Commissioners, we've seen a significant decrease in the [28:59] Commissioners, we've seen a significant decrease in the [28:59] Commissioners, we've seen a significant decrease in the need at some of these divisions. [29:01] significant decrease in the need at some of these divisions. [29:01] significant decrease in the need at some of these divisions. And I'm happy to say [29:02] need at some of these divisions. And I'm happy to say [29:02] need at some of these divisions. And I'm happy to say specifically one division, [29:04] And I'm happy to say specifically one division, [29:04] And I'm happy to say specifically one division, mission Division. Initially [29:05] specifically one division, mission Division. Initially [29:05] specifically one division, mission Division. Initially when we did this report, we're [29:07] mission Division. Initially when we did this report, we're [29:07] mission Division. Initially when we did this report, we're down 26 officers. We've added 8 [29:10] when we did this report, we're down 26 officers. We've added 8 [29:10] when we did this report, we're down 26 officers. We've added 8 or 9 officers to that division, [29:11] down 26 officers. We've added 8 or 9 officers to that division, [29:11] down 26 officers. We've added 8 or 9 officers to that division, and now they're a deficit of 11. [29:14] or 9 officers to that division, and now they're a deficit of 11. [29:14] or 9 officers to that division, and now they're a deficit of 11. So working with our personnel [29:16] and now they're a deficit of 11. So working with our personnel [29:16] and now they're a deficit of 11. So working with our personnel department, our field [29:17] So working with our personnel department, our field [29:17] So working with our personnel department, our field deployment unit, and the [29:20] department, our field deployment unit, and the [29:20] department, our field deployment unit, and the transfers and officers [29:21] deployment unit, and the transfers and officers [29:21] deployment unit, and the transfers and officers graduating out of the academy, [29:23] transfers and officers graduating out of the academy, [29:23] transfers and officers graduating out of the academy, some of the divisions that did [29:24] graduating out of the academy, some of the divisions that did [29:24] graduating out of the academy, some of the divisions that did show a deficit were looking to [29:26] some of the divisions that did show a deficit were looking to [29:27] some of the divisions that did show a deficit were looking to make those divisions whole. As [29:28] show a deficit were looking to make those divisions whole. As [29:28] show a deficit were looking to make those divisions whole. As we move through, it's important [29:31] make those divisions whole. As we move through, it's important [29:31] make those divisions whole. As we move through, it's important to note that the the the patrol [29:35] we move through, it's important to note that the the the patrol [29:35] we move through, it's important to note that the the the patrol plan is strictly basic a cars. [29:39] to note that the the the patrol plan is strictly basic a cars. [29:39] to note that the the the patrol plan is strictly basic a cars. It doesn't include kit room, [29:41] plan is strictly basic a cars. It doesn't include kit room, [29:42] plan is strictly basic a cars. It doesn't include kit room, front desk, detectives, [29:45] It doesn't include kit room, front desk, detectives, [29:45] It doesn't include kit room, front desk, detectives, narcotics gangs, specialized [29:47] front desk, detectives, narcotics gangs, specialized [29:47] front desk, detectives, narcotics gangs, specialized units. It's strictly a cars and [29:50] narcotics gangs, specialized units. It's strictly a cars and [29:50] narcotics gangs, specialized units. It's strictly a cars and X cars responding to radio [29:53] units. It's strictly a cars and X cars responding to radio [29:53] units. It's strictly a cars and X cars responding to radio calls. So when we when we [29:55] X cars responding to radio calls. So when we when we [29:55] X cars responding to radio calls. So when we when we revised the patrol plan, that's [29:57] calls. So when we when we revised the patrol plan, that's [29:57] calls. So when we when we revised the patrol plan, that's just for the a cars on top of [30:00] revised the patrol plan, that's just for the a cars on top of [30:00] revised the patrol plan, that's just for the a cars on top of any excess officers that may [30:02] just for the a cars on top of any excess officers that may [30:02] just for the a cars on top of any excess officers that may appear on that patrol plan, [30:04] any excess officers that may appear on that patrol plan, [30:04] any excess officers that may appear on that patrol plan, they are plugged into those [30:06] appear on that patrol plan, they are plugged into those [30:06] appear on that patrol plan, they are plugged into those other entities that that I just [30:08] they are plugged into those other entities that that I just [30:09] they are plugged into those other entities that that I just described. Okay. Chief. So you [30:15] other entities that that I just described. Okay. Chief. So you [30:15] other entities that that I just described. Okay. Chief. So you said the last time it was [30:17] described. Okay. Chief. So you said the last time it was [30:17] described. Okay. Chief. So you said the last time it was updated was in 2023. That's [30:19] said the last time it was updated was in 2023. That's [30:19] said the last time it was updated was in 2023. That's when they did a full assessment [30:20] updated was in 2023. That's when they did a full assessment [30:20] updated was in 2023. That's when they did a full assessment and made made actual changes to [30:22] when they did a full assessment and made made actual changes to [30:22] when they did a full assessment and made made actual changes to the basic cars in different [30:24] and made made actual changes to the basic cars in different [30:24] and made made actual changes to the basic cars in different communities, not the basic cars. [30:26] the basic cars in different communities, not the basic cars. [30:26] the basic cars in different communities, not the basic cars. The the our patrol plan. Okay. [30:28] communities, not the basic cars. The the our patrol plan. Okay. [30:28] communities, not the basic cars. The the our patrol plan. Okay. Got it. Yeah. I'm sorry. And so [30:30] The the our patrol plan. Okay. Got it. Yeah. I'm sorry. And so [30:30] The the our patrol plan. Okay. Got it. Yeah. I'm sorry. And so now you're saying if for us to [30:33] Got it. Yeah. I'm sorry. And so now you're saying if for us to [30:33] Got it. Yeah. I'm sorry. And so now you're saying if for us to do to revise this, we need to [30:35] now you're saying if for us to do to revise this, we need to [30:35] now you're saying if for us to do to revise this, we need to go to an RFP to get someone to [30:38] do to revise this, we need to go to an RFP to get someone to [30:38] do to revise this, we need to go to an RFP to get someone to advise us. I mean, we don't [30:40] go to an RFP to get someone to advise us. I mean, we don't [30:40] go to an RFP to get someone to advise us. I mean, we don't think that the captains of the [30:42] advise us. I mean, we don't think that the captains of the [30:42] advise us. I mean, we don't think that the captains of the divisions have a good sense of, [30:44] think that the captains of the divisions have a good sense of, [30:44] think that the captains of the divisions have a good sense of, you know, where their basic [30:46] divisions have a good sense of, you know, where their basic [30:46] divisions have a good sense of, you know, where their basic cars are needed. Well, when the [30:50] you know, where their basic cars are needed. Well, when the [30:50] you know, where their basic cars are needed. Well, when the the the basic car plan was, was [30:55] cars are needed. Well, when the the the basic car plan was, was [30:55] cars are needed. Well, when the the the basic car plan was, was implemented, there were so many [30:56] the the basic car plan was, was implemented, there were so many [30:56] the the basic car plan was, was implemented, there were so many factors that went into it. [30:58] implemented, there were so many factors that went into it. [30:58] implemented, there were so many factors that went into it. Radio call population, how big [31:01] factors that went into it. Radio call population, how big [31:01] factors that went into it. Radio call population, how big the area is. When we do have, [31:04] Radio call population, how big the area is. When we do have, [31:04] Radio call population, how big the area is. When we do have, when we have the luxury of [31:06] the area is. When we do have, when we have the luxury of [31:07] the area is. When we do have, when we have the luxury of deploying an additional unit, [31:08] when we have the luxury of deploying an additional unit, [31:08] when we have the luxury of deploying an additional unit, we will put in what we call an [31:10] deploying an additional unit, we will put in what we call an [31:10] deploying an additional unit, we will put in what we call an X car in an area that we know [31:13] we will put in what we call an X car in an area that we know [31:13] we will put in what we call an X car in an area that we know has a high volume of call [31:15] X car in an area that we know has a high volume of call [31:15] X car in an area that we know has a high volume of call volume, so we can have that [31:16] has a high volume of call volume, so we can have that [31:16] has a high volume of call volume, so we can have that extra additional resource. Or [31:18] volume, so we can have that extra additional resource. Or [31:18] volume, so we can have that extra additional resource. Or when we identify specific crime [31:20] extra additional resource. Or when we identify specific crime [31:20] extra additional resource. Or when we identify specific crime trends or patterns, we can put [31:22] when we identify specific crime trends or patterns, we can put [31:22] when we identify specific crime trends or patterns, we can put that additional X car in that [31:25] trends or patterns, we can put that additional X car in that [31:25] trends or patterns, we can put that additional X car in that area. But to revise an entire [31:27] that additional X car in that area. But to revise an entire [31:27] that additional X car in that area. But to revise an entire basic car plan, we definitely [31:30] area. But to revise an entire basic car plan, we definitely [31:30] area. But to revise an entire basic car plan, we definitely need someone with that subject [31:31] basic car plan, we definitely need someone with that subject [31:32] basic car plan, we definitely need someone with that subject matter expertise. We'd have to [31:33] need someone with that subject matter expertise. We'd have to [31:33] need someone with that subject matter expertise. We'd have to look at the the number of call [31:36] matter expertise. We'd have to look at the the number of call [31:36] matter expertise. We'd have to look at the the number of call volumes. We've also had the [31:38] look at the the number of call volumes. We've also had the [31:39] look at the the number of call volumes. We've also had the opportunity to implement our [31:40] volumes. We've also had the opportunity to implement our [31:40] volumes. We've also had the opportunity to implement our community online reporting [31:41] opportunity to implement our community online reporting [31:41] opportunity to implement our community online reporting system. There's been over [31:43] community online reporting system. There's been over [31:43] community online reporting system. There's been over 200,000 reports taken online. [31:46] system. There's been over 200,000 reports taken online. [31:46] system. There's been over 200,000 reports taken online. That's 200,000 less radio calls [31:49] 200,000 reports taken online. That's 200,000 less radio calls [31:49] 200,000 reports taken online. That's 200,000 less radio calls that our officers would have to [31:51] That's 200,000 less radio calls that our officers would have to [31:51] That's 200,000 less radio calls that our officers would have to respond out to the location to [31:53] that our officers would have to respond out to the location to [31:53] that our officers would have to respond out to the location to take a report. So all of those [31:55] respond out to the location to take a report. So all of those [31:55] respond out to the location to take a report. So all of those factors would go into us [31:57] take a report. So all of those factors would go into us [31:57] take a report. So all of those factors would go into us revising our actual basic car [32:00] factors would go into us revising our actual basic car [32:00] factors would go into us revising our actual basic car plan, including mapping and [32:03] revising our actual basic car plan, including mapping and [32:03] revising our actual basic car plan, including mapping and redistricting. And that would [32:04] plan, including mapping and redistricting. And that would [32:04] plan, including mapping and redistricting. And that would take a lot of time and [32:06] redistricting. And that would take a lot of time and [32:06] redistricting. And that would take a lot of time and definitely would have to go out [32:07] take a lot of time and definitely would have to go out [32:07] take a lot of time and definitely would have to go out to an RFP. I believe the last [32:09] definitely would have to go out to an RFP. I believe the last [32:09] definitely would have to go out to an RFP. I believe the last time we did that was what, year [32:12] to an RFP. I believe the last time we did that was what, year [32:12] to an RFP. I believe the last time we did that was what, year or initially? So 1990, 97 is [32:17] time we did that was what, year or initially? So 1990, 97 is [32:18] time we did that was what, year or initially? So 1990, 97 is the approximate the last time [32:19] or initially? So 1990, 97 is the approximate the last time [32:19] or initially? So 1990, 97 is the approximate the last time the actual basic car number [32:21] the approximate the last time the actual basic car number [32:21] the approximate the last time the actual basic car number count was changed. And even [32:24] the actual basic car number count was changed. And even [32:24] the actual basic car number count was changed. And even when the establishment of [32:26] count was changed. And even when the establishment of [32:26] count was changed. And even when the establishment of Topanga and Olympic, when that [32:31] when the establishment of Topanga and Olympic, when that [32:31] when the establishment of Topanga and Olympic, when that came into establishment, we [32:32] Topanga and Olympic, when that came into establishment, we [32:33] Topanga and Olympic, when that came into establishment, we didn't add additional. We just [32:34] came into establishment, we didn't add additional. We just [32:34] came into establishment, we didn't add additional. We just carved out those previous eight [32:36] didn't add additional. We just carved out those previous eight [32:36] didn't add additional. We just carved out those previous eight cars from the other divisions [32:38] carved out those previous eight cars from the other divisions [32:38] carved out those previous eight cars from the other divisions and placed them into those. So [32:39] cars from the other divisions and placed them into those. So [32:39] cars from the other divisions and placed them into those. So the count remained at 168. And [32:42] and placed them into those. So the count remained at 168. And [32:42] and placed them into those. So the count remained at 168. And when those were created, [32:43] the count remained at 168. And when those were created, [32:43] the count remained at 168. And when those were created, initially, it was they tried to [32:46] when those were created, initially, it was they tried to [32:46] when those were created, initially, it was they tried to build like the chief said, [32:47] initially, it was they tried to build like the chief said, [32:47] initially, it was they tried to build like the chief said, radio calls, community centers, [32:51] build like the chief said, radio calls, community centers, [32:51] build like the chief said, radio calls, community centers, streets. They tried to create [32:52] radio calls, community centers, streets. They tried to create [32:52] radio calls, community centers, streets. They tried to create it. So because the focus of the [32:54] streets. They tried to create it. So because the focus of the [32:54] streets. They tried to create it. So because the focus of the basic eight car is the quality [32:55] it. So because the focus of the basic eight car is the quality [32:55] it. So because the focus of the basic eight car is the quality of life service. So there's a [32:57] basic eight car is the quality of life service. So there's a [32:57] basic eight car is the quality of life service. So there's a senior lead officer assigned to [32:58] of life service. So there's a senior lead officer assigned to [32:58] of life service. So there's a senior lead officer assigned to each basic car they lead, like [33:00] senior lead officer assigned to each basic car they lead, like [33:00] senior lead officer assigned to each basic car they lead, like Sarah projects situations like [33:01] each basic car they lead, like Sarah projects situations like [33:01] each basic car they lead, like Sarah projects situations like that. A lot of quality of life [33:05] Sarah projects situations like that. A lot of quality of life [33:05] Sarah projects situations like that. A lot of quality of life concerns outside of just the [33:06] that. A lot of quality of life concerns outside of just the [33:06] that. A lot of quality of life concerns outside of just the responding to emergency radio [33:07] concerns outside of just the responding to emergency radio [33:07] concerns outside of just the responding to emergency radio calls. When we talk about [33:10] responding to emergency radio calls. When we talk about [33:10] responding to emergency radio calls. When we talk about patrol plan, it's a separate [33:12] calls. When we talk about patrol plan, it's a separate [33:12] calls. When we talk about patrol plan, it's a separate concept. It's not how many [33:14] patrol plan, it's a separate concept. It's not how many [33:14] patrol plan, it's a separate concept. It's not how many people I mean, officers are [33:15] concept. It's not how many people I mean, officers are [33:15] concept. It's not how many people I mean, officers are needed to handle all the patrol [33:17] people I mean, officers are needed to handle all the patrol [33:17] people I mean, officers are needed to handle all the patrol calls, the demand radio calls, [33:18] needed to handle all the patrol calls, the demand radio calls, [33:18] needed to handle all the patrol calls, the demand radio calls, all of that. It is. That's just [33:21] calls, the demand radio calls, all of that. It is. That's just [33:21] calls, the demand radio calls, all of that. It is. That's just our in cars. When we're talking [33:23] all of that. It is. That's just our in cars. When we're talking [33:23] all of that. It is. That's just our in cars. When we're talking about basic eight cars, it's a [33:25] our in cars. When we're talking about basic eight cars, it's a [33:25] our in cars. When we're talking about basic eight cars, it's a whole the whole delivery system [33:27] about basic eight cars, it's a whole the whole delivery system [33:27] about basic eight cars, it's a whole the whole delivery system of service to the community and [33:30] whole the whole delivery system of service to the community and [33:30] whole the whole delivery system of service to the community and the aspects and the factors [33:33] of service to the community and the aspects and the factors [33:33] of service to the community and the aspects and the factors that would come into separating [33:34] the aspects and the factors that would come into separating [33:34] the aspects and the factors that would come into separating the amount are I could come up [33:37] that would come into separating the amount are I could come up [33:37] that would come into separating the amount are I could come up with an idea. Chief could come [33:39] the amount are I could come up with an idea. Chief could come [33:39] the amount are I could come up with an idea. Chief could come up with the idea, but there's [33:40] with an idea. Chief could come up with the idea, but there's [33:40] with an idea. Chief could come up with the idea, but there's always going to be a give and [33:42] up with the idea, but there's always going to be a give and [33:42] up with the idea, but there's always going to be a give and take on that. That would take [33:44] always going to be a give and take on that. That would take [33:44] always going to be a give and take on that. That would take time and agreement in all [33:45] take on that. That would take time and agreement in all [33:45] take on that. That would take time and agreement in all different levels. The the city, [33:47] time and agreement in all different levels. The the city, [33:47] time and agreement in all different levels. The the city, the department, the league, [33:49] different levels. The the city, the department, the league, [33:49] different levels. The the city, the department, the league, everyone have to agree on where [33:50] the department, the league, everyone have to agree on where [33:50] the department, the league, everyone have to agree on where that has to be. And that'll [33:52] everyone have to agree on where that has to be. And that'll [33:52] everyone have to agree on where that has to be. And that'll take time and probably agree on [33:54] that has to be. And that'll take time and probably agree on [33:54] that has to be. And that'll take time and probably agree on a company which will probably [33:55] take time and probably agree on a company which will probably [33:55] take time and probably agree on a company which will probably take money. So. So in keeping [33:59] a company which will probably take money. So. So in keeping [33:59] a company which will probably take money. So. So in keeping with the 740 I, is that still [34:04] take money. So. So in keeping with the 740 I, is that still [34:04] take money. So. So in keeping with the 740 I, is that still the formula today? And with us [34:07] with the 740 I, is that still the formula today? And with us [34:07] with the 740 I, is that still the formula today? And with us being down in numbers, we are [34:09] the formula today? And with us being down in numbers, we are [34:09] the formula today? And with us being down in numbers, we are once we revised our numbers [34:11] being down in numbers, we are once we revised our numbers [34:11] being down in numbers, we are once we revised our numbers effective two weeks ago, we are [34:13] once we revised our numbers effective two weeks ago, we are [34:13] once we revised our numbers effective two weeks ago, we are utilizing the 730. So still the [34:16] effective two weeks ago, we are utilizing the 730. So still the [34:16] effective two weeks ago, we are utilizing the 730. So still the seven minute response time in [34:18] utilizing the 730. So still the seven minute response time in [34:18] utilizing the 730. So still the seven minute response time in 30% of the time for community [34:20] seven minute response time in 30% of the time for community [34:20] seven minute response time in 30% of the time for community outreach and engagement and [34:22] 30% of the time for community outreach and engagement and [34:22] 30% of the time for community outreach and engagement and proactive policing. So I feel [34:24] outreach and engagement and proactive policing. So I feel [34:24] outreach and engagement and proactive policing. So I feel that when there are incidents [34:25] proactive policing. So I feel that when there are incidents [34:25] proactive policing. So I feel that when there are incidents around the city, patrol [34:26] that when there are incidents around the city, patrol [34:26] that when there are incidents around the city, patrol officers are being pulled from [34:27] around the city, patrol officers are being pulled from [34:27] around the city, patrol officers are being pulled from their assignments, the regular [34:29] officers are being pulled from their assignments, the regular [34:29] officers are being pulled from their assignments, the regular duties, how do we then back up [34:32] their assignments, the regular duties, how do we then back up [34:32] their assignments, the regular duties, how do we then back up that what what do we do in [34:33] duties, how do we then back up that what what do we do in [34:33] duties, how do we then back up that what what do we do in those situations? Are people [34:34] that what what do we do in those situations? Are people [34:34] that what what do we do in those situations? Are people pulled from different duties to [34:37] those situations? Are people pulled from different duties to [34:37] those situations? Are people pulled from different duties to do patrol? So we have a minimum [34:42] pulled from different duties to do patrol? So we have a minimum [34:42] pulled from different duties to do patrol? So we have a minimum staffing and we have 100% [34:44] do patrol? So we have a minimum staffing and we have 100% [34:44] do patrol? So we have a minimum staffing and we have 100% deployment plan. So if there's [34:46] staffing and we have 100% deployment plan. So if there's [34:46] staffing and we have 100% deployment plan. So if there's a protest or a significant [34:48] deployment plan. So if there's a protest or a significant [34:49] deployment plan. So if there's a protest or a significant incident that occurs in the [34:50] a protest or a significant incident that occurs in the [34:50] a protest or a significant incident that occurs in the city, we will divert resources [34:53] incident that occurs in the city, we will divert resources [34:53] incident that occurs in the city, we will divert resources from different parts of the [34:55] city, we will divert resources from different parts of the [34:55] city, we will divert resources from different parts of the city and the divisions to meet [34:56] from different parts of the city and the divisions to meet [34:56] from different parts of the city and the divisions to meet that need. And that division [34:58] city and the divisions to meet that need. And that division [34:58] city and the divisions to meet that need. And that division will go down to minimums. [35:00] that need. And that division will go down to minimums. [35:00] that need. And that division will go down to minimums. Minimums is usually half of [35:02] will go down to minimums. Minimums is usually half of [35:02] will go down to minimums. Minimums is usually half of your basic eight cars within [35:04] Minimums is usually half of your basic eight cars within [35:04] Minimums is usually half of your basic eight cars within your division. So most recent [35:07] your basic eight cars within your division. So most recent [35:07] your basic eight cars within your division. So most recent with the large protest or the [35:10] your division. So most recent with the large protest or the [35:10] your division. So most recent with the large protest or the MLK parade or spontaneous [35:12] with the large protest or the MLK parade or spontaneous [35:13] with the large protest or the MLK parade or spontaneous events, we do have to take [35:14] MLK parade or spontaneous events, we do have to take [35:14] MLK parade or spontaneous events, we do have to take resources from other parts of [35:15] events, we do have to take resources from other parts of [35:15] events, we do have to take resources from other parts of the city, but we at least [35:17] resources from other parts of the city, but we at least [35:17] resources from other parts of the city, but we at least ensure that each division is [35:19] the city, but we at least ensure that each division is [35:19] the city, but we at least ensure that each division is patrolling at their minimums [35:21] ensure that each division is patrolling at their minimums [35:21] ensure that each division is patrolling at their minimums and the minimums are half of [35:22] patrolling at their minimums and the minimums are half of [35:22] patrolling at their minimums and the minimums are half of what they have. So response [35:24] and the minimums are half of what they have. So response [35:24] and the minimums are half of what they have. So response times are obviously affected in [35:26] what they have. So response times are obviously affected in [35:26] what they have. So response times are obviously affected in those areas. Well, the I [35:29] times are obviously affected in those areas. Well, the I [35:29] times are obviously affected in those areas. Well, the I believe it or not, the response [35:30] those areas. Well, the I believe it or not, the response [35:30] those areas. Well, the I believe it or not, the response time, we're still hitting that [35:32] believe it or not, the response time, we're still hitting that [35:32] believe it or not, the response time, we're still hitting that seven minute response time. And [35:33] time, we're still hitting that seven minute response time. And [35:33] time, we're still hitting that seven minute response time. And that's for 911 calls for non [35:37] seven minute response time. And that's for 911 calls for non [35:37] seven minute response time. And that's for 911 calls for non coded calls. That number goes [35:38] that's for 911 calls for non coded calls. That number goes [35:38] that's for 911 calls for non coded calls. That number goes up a bit. But we're meeting [35:40] coded calls. That number goes up a bit. But we're meeting [35:40] coded calls. That number goes up a bit. But we're meeting that seven minute mark in all [35:41] up a bit. But we're meeting that seven minute mark in all [35:41] up a bit. But we're meeting that seven minute mark in all 21 of our divisions okay. So [35:44] that seven minute mark in all 21 of our divisions okay. So [35:44] that seven minute mark in all 21 of our divisions okay. So what kind of feedback have you [35:45] 21 of our divisions okay. So what kind of feedback have you [35:45] 21 of our divisions okay. So what kind of feedback have you received from patrol officers [35:46] what kind of feedback have you received from patrol officers [35:46] what kind of feedback have you received from patrol officers regarding this plan. And how is [35:48] received from patrol officers regarding this plan. And how is [35:48] received from patrol officers regarding this plan. And how is the feedback incorporated into [35:50] regarding this plan. And how is the feedback incorporated into [35:50] regarding this plan. And how is the feedback incorporated into like future adjustments? So [35:52] the feedback incorporated into like future adjustments? So [35:52] the feedback incorporated into like future adjustments? So because we've been doing the [35:54] like future adjustments? So because we've been doing the [35:54] like future adjustments? So because we've been doing the patrol plan for decades, our [35:57] because we've been doing the patrol plan for decades, our [35:57] because we've been doing the patrol plan for decades, our officers, I don't think they [35:58] patrol plan for decades, our officers, I don't think they [35:58] patrol plan for decades, our officers, I don't think they know the difference. It's our [36:00] officers, I don't think they know the difference. It's our [36:00] officers, I don't think they know the difference. It's our bureau chiefs and our captains [36:01] know the difference. It's our bureau chiefs and our captains [36:02] know the difference. It's our bureau chiefs and our captains that are really engaged and [36:03] bureau chiefs and our captains that are really engaged and [36:03] bureau chiefs and our captains that are really engaged and involved in and want to know [36:05] that are really engaged and involved in and want to know [36:05] that are really engaged and involved in and want to know what the expectation is for [36:06] involved in and want to know what the expectation is for [36:06] involved in and want to know what the expectation is for their deployment and what their [36:08] what the expectation is for their deployment and what their [36:08] what the expectation is for their deployment and what their deployment needs are. We did [36:10] their deployment and what their deployment needs are. We did [36:10] their deployment and what their deployment needs are. We did sit down and meet with the [36:12] deployment needs are. We did sit down and meet with the [36:12] deployment needs are. We did sit down and meet with the Police League to talk about us [36:14] sit down and meet with the Police League to talk about us [36:14] sit down and meet with the Police League to talk about us revising this and that. We [36:15] Police League to talk about us revising this and that. We [36:15] Police League to talk about us revising this and that. We hadn't done so in several years [36:17] revising this and that. We hadn't done so in several years [36:17] revising this and that. We hadn't done so in several years and they took it very well. We [36:19] hadn't done so in several years and they took it very well. We [36:20] hadn't done so in several years and they took it very well. We also met with our employee [36:21] and they took it very well. We also met with our employee [36:21] and they took it very well. We also met with our employee relations group and had those [36:23] also met with our employee relations group and had those [36:24] also met with our employee relations group and had those discussions just a month ago. [36:25] relations group and had those discussions just a month ago. [36:25] relations group and had those discussions just a month ago. We met with every single patrol [36:27] discussions just a month ago. We met with every single patrol [36:27] discussions just a month ago. We met with every single patrol captain and area captain to [36:30] We met with every single patrol captain and area captain to [36:30] We met with every single patrol captain and area captain to explain to them the history, [36:31] captain and area captain to explain to them the history, [36:31] captain and area captain to explain to them the history, the patrol plan, how we came up [36:34] explain to them the history, the patrol plan, how we came up [36:34] explain to them the history, the patrol plan, how we came up with it, and I think it's been [36:35] the patrol plan, how we came up with it, and I think it's been [36:36] the patrol plan, how we came up with it, and I think it's been received very well. I know some [36:37] with it, and I think it's been received very well. I know some [36:37] with it, and I think it's been received very well. I know some of the divisions that had a [36:39] received very well. I know some of the divisions that had a [36:39] received very well. I know some of the divisions that had a deficit are feeling supported [36:40] of the divisions that had a deficit are feeling supported [36:40] of the divisions that had a deficit are feeling supported now because of us really diving [36:43] deficit are feeling supported now because of us really diving [36:43] deficit are feeling supported now because of us really diving in and engaging and ensuring [36:45] now because of us really diving in and engaging and ensuring [36:45] now because of us really diving in and engaging and ensuring that some of the divisions with [36:46] in and engaging and ensuring that some of the divisions with [36:46] in and engaging and ensuring that some of the divisions with the deficit are made as close [36:48] that some of the divisions with the deficit are made as close [36:48] that some of the divisions with the deficit are made as close to whole as we can. Okay. So [36:50] the deficit are made as close to whole as we can. Okay. So [36:51] the deficit are made as close to whole as we can. Okay. So the numbers that we're seeing [36:52] to whole as we can. Okay. So the numbers that we're seeing [36:52] to whole as we can. Okay. So the numbers that we're seeing here are current as far as no, [36:54] the numbers that we're seeing here are current as far as no, [36:54] the numbers that we're seeing here are current as far as no, no, we have more current. Do [36:56] here are current as far as no, no, we have more current. Do [36:56] here are current as far as no, no, we have more current. Do you have those? Okay. So if you [36:58] no, we have more current. Do you have those? Okay. So if you [36:58] no, we have more current. Do you have those? Okay. So if you can see if we can get a copy of [37:01] you have those? Okay. So if you can see if we can get a copy of [37:01] you have those? Okay. So if you can see if we can get a copy of that. Yeah. And so the [37:02] can see if we can get a copy of that. Yeah. And so the [37:02] can see if we can get a copy of that. Yeah. And so the expansion how is like the [37:04] that. Yeah. And so the expansion how is like the [37:04] that. Yeah. And so the expansion how is like the expansion of the UMC. Has that [37:06] expansion how is like the expansion of the UMC. Has that [37:06] expansion how is like the expansion of the UMC. Has that had any sort of have we noticed [37:09] expansion of the UMC. Has that had any sort of have we noticed [37:09] expansion of the UMC. Has that had any sort of have we noticed any impact on, on, you know, [37:11] had any sort of have we noticed any impact on, on, you know, [37:11] had any sort of have we noticed any impact on, on, you know, deployment plans. It's [37:13] any impact on, on, you know, deployment plans. It's [37:14] any impact on, on, you know, deployment plans. It's absolutely I like Commander [37:15] deployment plans. It's absolutely I like Commander [37:15] deployment plans. It's absolutely I like Commander Liam talk a bit about it. But [37:18] absolutely I like Commander Liam talk a bit about it. But [37:18] absolutely I like Commander Liam talk a bit about it. But that also is factored in when [37:20] Liam talk a bit about it. But that also is factored in when [37:20] Liam talk a bit about it. But that also is factored in when we look at the workload and how [37:22] that also is factored in when we look at the workload and how [37:22] that also is factored in when we look at the workload and how we came up with how many [37:24] we look at the workload and how we came up with how many [37:24] we look at the workload and how we came up with how many officers should be assigned to [37:25] we came up with how many officers should be assigned to [37:25] we came up with how many officers should be assigned to each division, the community [37:26] officers should be assigned to each division, the community [37:27] officers should be assigned to each division, the community online reporting system, and [37:28] each division, the community online reporting system, and [37:28] each division, the community online reporting system, and knowing that over 200,000 [37:30] online reporting system, and knowing that over 200,000 [37:30] online reporting system, and knowing that over 200,000 reports, you know, have been [37:31] knowing that over 200,000 reports, you know, have been [37:32] knowing that over 200,000 reports, you know, have been taken, that's going to have a [37:34] reports, you know, have been taken, that's going to have a [37:34] reports, you know, have been taken, that's going to have a significant factor into it. If [37:38] taken, that's going to have a significant factor into it. If [37:38] taken, that's going to have a significant factor into it. If I'm at a division and we were [37:40] significant factor into it. If I'm at a division and we were [37:41] significant factor into it. If I'm at a division and we were taking 2000 reports for [37:44] I'm at a division and we were taking 2000 reports for [37:44] I'm at a division and we were taking 2000 reports for domestic violence in person, [37:46] taking 2000 reports for domestic violence in person, [37:46] taking 2000 reports for domestic violence in person, and now those are being taken [37:47] domestic violence in person, and now those are being taken [37:47] domestic violence in person, and now those are being taken online, and I shouldn't use [37:49] and now those are being taken online, and I shouldn't use [37:49] and now those are being taken online, and I shouldn't use domestic violence because those [37:50] online, and I shouldn't use domestic violence because those [37:50] online, and I shouldn't use domestic violence because those are in person. But a loud radio [37:53] domestic violence because those are in person. But a loud radio [37:53] domestic violence because those are in person. But a loud radio or a forgery. Then when we put [37:56] are in person. But a loud radio or a forgery. Then when we put [37:56] are in person. But a loud radio or a forgery. Then when we put those numbers into that [37:58] or a forgery. Then when we put those numbers into that [37:59] or a forgery. Then when we put those numbers into that mathematical equation, that [38:00] those numbers into that mathematical equation, that [38:00] those numbers into that mathematical equation, that division is going to have less [38:03] mathematical equation, that division is going to have less [38:03] mathematical equation, that division is going to have less time and show less radio calls, [38:05] division is going to have less time and show less radio calls, [38:06] division is going to have less time and show less radio calls, which means more proactive [38:08] time and show less radio calls, which means more proactive [38:08] time and show less radio calls, which means more proactive policing. But I think the chief [38:10] which means more proactive policing. But I think the chief [38:10] which means more proactive policing. But I think the chief covered it. But year to date, [38:12] policing. But I think the chief covered it. But year to date, [38:12] policing. But I think the chief covered it. But year to date, so far there's been 953 calls [38:15] covered it. But year to date, so far there's been 953 calls [38:15] covered it. But year to date, so far there's been 953 calls diverted. I don't have all 2520, [38:17] so far there's been 953 calls diverted. I don't have all 2520, [38:17] so far there's been 953 calls diverted. I don't have all 2520, 25, but so far just the year [38:19] diverted. I don't have all 2520, 25, but so far just the year [38:19] diverted. I don't have all 2520, 25, but so far just the year 953. So it's a significant [38:20] 25, but so far just the year 953. So it's a significant [38:21] 25, but so far just the year 953. So it's a significant workload is diverted. All right. [38:26] 953. So it's a significant workload is diverted. All right. [38:26] 953. So it's a significant workload is diverted. All right. I'd like to open this up to my [38:28] workload is diverted. All right. I'd like to open this up to my [38:28] workload is diverted. All right. I'd like to open this up to my colleagues for any questions. [38:29] I'd like to open this up to my colleagues for any questions. [38:29] I'd like to open this up to my colleagues for any questions. Councilmember. Council. [38:33] colleagues for any questions. Councilmember. Council. [38:33] colleagues for any questions. Councilmember. Council. Councilmember McCluskey. Oh, [38:35] Councilmember. Council. Councilmember McCluskey. Oh, [38:35] Councilmember. Council. Councilmember McCluskey. Oh, sure. Thank you. Thanks very [38:37] Councilmember McCluskey. Oh, sure. Thank you. Thanks very [38:37] Councilmember McCluskey. Oh, sure. Thank you. Thanks very much. Appreciate the report. Is [38:40] sure. Thank you. Thanks very much. Appreciate the report. Is [38:40] sure. Thank you. Thanks very much. Appreciate the report. Is there any intersection or [38:42] much. Appreciate the report. Is there any intersection or [38:42] much. Appreciate the report. Is there any intersection or relation of this report to the [38:44] there any intersection or relation of this report to the [38:44] there any intersection or relation of this report to the to the organizational [38:45] relation of this report to the to the organizational [38:45] relation of this report to the to the organizational assessment by Rand that is also [38:48] to the organizational assessment by Rand that is also [38:48] to the organizational assessment by Rand that is also pending? Do you know any [38:50] assessment by Rand that is also pending? Do you know any [38:50] assessment by Rand that is also pending? Do you know any overlap. And if we don't know [38:52] pending? Do you know any overlap. And if we don't know [38:52] pending? Do you know any overlap. And if we don't know now we just it's something to [38:53] overlap. And if we don't know now we just it's something to [38:54] overlap. And if we don't know now we just it's something to think about I I will get back [38:56] now we just it's something to think about I I will get back [38:56] now we just it's something to think about I I will get back to you sir okay okay. Thanks [38:59] think about I I will get back to you sir okay okay. Thanks [38:59] think about I I will get back to you sir okay okay. Thanks very much. Actually I was going [39:03] to you sir okay okay. Thanks very much. Actually I was going [39:03] to you sir okay okay. Thanks very much. Actually I was going to go down that path. So why [39:04] very much. Actually I was going to go down that path. So why [39:04] very much. Actually I was going to go down that path. So why don't I, why don't I defer to [39:07] to go down that path. So why don't I, why don't I defer to [39:07] to go down that path. So why don't I, why don't I defer to Councilmember Parker? [39:08] don't I, why don't I defer to Councilmember Parker? [39:08] don't I, why don't I defer to Councilmember Parker? Councilmember. Thank you, [39:09] Councilmember Parker? Councilmember. Thank you, [39:09] Councilmember Parker? Councilmember. Thank you, Mister Chair. On the. 7040 plan. [39:16] Councilmember. Thank you, Mister Chair. On the. 7040 plan. [39:16] Councilmember. Thank you, Mister Chair. On the. 7040 plan. What what how are we defining [39:19] Mister Chair. On the. 7040 plan. What what how are we defining [39:19] Mister Chair. On the. 7040 plan. What what how are we defining emergency calls that are to be [39:22] What what how are we defining emergency calls that are to be [39:22] What what how are we defining emergency calls that are to be responded to within seven [39:24] emergency calls that are to be responded to within seven [39:24] emergency calls that are to be responded to within seven minutes? What? Robbery in [39:27] responded to within seven minutes? What? Robbery in [39:27] responded to within seven minutes? What? Robbery in progress, shooting in progress. [39:30] minutes? What? Robbery in progress, shooting in progress. [39:30] minutes? What? Robbery in progress, shooting in progress. Any 911 emergency call. Well, [39:34] progress, shooting in progress. Any 911 emergency call. Well, [39:34] progress, shooting in progress. Any 911 emergency call. Well, lots 911 calls probably don't [39:36] Any 911 emergency call. Well, lots 911 calls probably don't [39:36] Any 911 emergency call. Well, lots 911 calls probably don't qualify as that term. So what, [39:38] lots 911 calls probably don't qualify as that term. So what, [39:38] lots 911 calls probably don't qualify as that term. So what, like a code three response a [39:39] qualify as that term. So what, like a code three response a [39:39] qualify as that term. So what, like a code three response a code three response. Code three [39:41] like a code three response a code three response. Code three [39:41] like a code three response a code three response. Code three response okay. This probably [39:47] code three response. Code three response okay. This probably [39:47] code three response. Code three response okay. This probably won't come as any surprise to [39:48] response okay. This probably won't come as any surprise to [39:48] response okay. This probably won't come as any surprise to you, but one of the main [39:50] won't come as any surprise to you, but one of the main [39:50] won't come as any surprise to you, but one of the main complaints that I hear often is [39:53] you, but one of the main complaints that I hear often is [39:53] you, but one of the main complaints that I hear often is slow response times. And it may [39:55] complaints that I hear often is slow response times. And it may [39:55] complaints that I hear often is slow response times. And it may just be a vocabulary issue [39:57] slow response times. And it may just be a vocabulary issue [39:57] slow response times. And it may just be a vocabulary issue because, you know, we talk [39:59] just be a vocabulary issue because, you know, we talk [39:59] just be a vocabulary issue because, you know, we talk about meeting response [40:01] because, you know, we talk about meeting response [40:01] because, you know, we talk about meeting response expectations at least when it's [40:02] about meeting response expectations at least when it's [40:03] about meeting response expectations at least when it's code three calls. But there's a [40:06] expectations at least when it's code three calls. But there's a [40:06] expectations at least when it's code three calls. But there's a huge universe outside of that [40:09] code three calls. But there's a huge universe outside of that [40:09] code three calls. But there's a huge universe outside of that where response times can be [40:12] huge universe outside of that where response times can be [40:12] huge universe outside of that where response times can be many, many hours or none at all. [40:16] where response times can be many, many hours or none at all. [40:16] where response times can be many, many hours or none at all. And so when we're thinking [40:18] many, many hours or none at all. And so when we're thinking [40:18] many, many hours or none at all. And so when we're thinking about the planning and the [40:20] And so when we're thinking about the planning and the [40:20] And so when we're thinking about the planning and the resources and how and where to [40:22] about the planning and the resources and how and where to [40:22] about the planning and the resources and how and where to allocate those, how does that [40:25] resources and how and where to allocate those, how does that [40:25] resources and how and where to allocate those, how does that other universe of call load [40:28] allocate those, how does that other universe of call load [40:28] allocate those, how does that other universe of call load factor into our staffing? So [40:31] other universe of call load factor into our staffing? So [40:31] other universe of call load factor into our staffing? So that's a great question. And [40:33] factor into our staffing? So that's a great question. And [40:33] factor into our staffing? So that's a great question. And and I with the seven minutes [40:36] that's a great question. And and I with the seven minutes [40:36] that's a great question. And and I with the seven minutes that includes the one minute [40:38] and I with the seven minutes that includes the one minute [40:38] and I with the seven minutes that includes the one minute that it takes the police [40:39] that includes the one minute that it takes the police [40:40] that includes the one minute that it takes the police service representative to pick [40:41] that it takes the police service representative to pick [40:41] that it takes the police service representative to pick up and answer the phone. And [40:43] service representative to pick up and answer the phone. And [40:43] service representative to pick up and answer the phone. And then that's 5 minutes or 2 [40:46] up and answer the phone. And then that's 5 minutes or 2 [40:46] up and answer the phone. And then that's 5 minutes or 2 minutes for dispatch and one [40:48] then that's 5 minutes or 2 minutes for dispatch and one [40:48] then that's 5 minutes or 2 minutes for dispatch and one minute, sorry. So one one [40:50] minutes for dispatch and one minute, sorry. So one one [40:50] minutes for dispatch and one minute, sorry. So one one minute to for the dispatcher to [40:52] minute, sorry. So one one minute to for the dispatcher to [40:52] minute, sorry. So one one minute to for the dispatcher to get the information, one minute [40:54] minute to for the dispatcher to get the information, one minute [40:54] minute to for the dispatcher to get the information, one minute to find a unit, five minutes to [40:56] get the information, one minute to find a unit, five minutes to [40:56] get the information, one minute to find a unit, five minutes to respond to the call. And so for [40:58] to find a unit, five minutes to respond to the call. And so for [40:58] to find a unit, five minutes to respond to the call. And so for the for the non coded calls, if [41:01] respond to the call. And so for the for the non coded calls, if [41:01] respond to the call. And so for the for the non coded calls, if I'm headed to a burglary [41:04] the for the non coded calls, if I'm headed to a burglary [41:04] the for the non coded calls, if I'm headed to a burglary investigation, but then a 911 [41:06] I'm headed to a burglary investigation, but then a 911 [41:06] I'm headed to a burglary investigation, but then a 911 call comes in, that burglary [41:07] investigation, but then a 911 call comes in, that burglary [41:07] investigation, but then a 911 call comes in, that burglary investigation is going to drop. [41:09] call comes in, that burglary investigation is going to drop. [41:09] call comes in, that burglary investigation is going to drop. And then I'm going to respond. [41:10] investigation is going to drop. And then I'm going to respond. [41:10] investigation is going to drop. And then I'm going to respond. So the officers are trying to [41:13] And then I'm going to respond. So the officers are trying to [41:13] And then I'm going to respond. So the officers are trying to prioritize their their call [41:14] So the officers are trying to prioritize their their call [41:14] So the officers are trying to prioritize their their call stack as they go. And our non [41:18] prioritize their their call stack as they go. And our non [41:18] prioritize their their call stack as they go. And our non coded calls I don't recall what [41:19] stack as they go. And our non coded calls I don't recall what [41:20] stack as they go. And our non coded calls I don't recall what is the average for a non coded [41:21] coded calls I don't recall what is the average for a non coded [41:21] coded calls I don't recall what is the average for a non coded now varies. It varies anywhere [41:23] is the average for a non coded now varies. It varies anywhere [41:23] is the average for a non coded now varies. It varies anywhere from. I don't want to but it [41:28] now varies. It varies anywhere from. I don't want to but it [41:28] now varies. It varies anywhere from. I don't want to but it varies. And to me what exactly [41:30] from. I don't want to but it varies. And to me what exactly [41:30] from. I don't want to but it varies. And to me what exactly what you're saying in that [41:32] varies. And to me what exactly what you're saying in that [41:32] varies. And to me what exactly what you're saying in that concern. So it's really hard [41:33] what you're saying in that concern. So it's really hard [41:34] what you're saying in that concern. So it's really hard for us to prioritize that. What [41:36] concern. So it's really hard for us to prioritize that. What [41:36] concern. So it's really hard for us to prioritize that. What we ask our field sergeants to [41:37] for us to prioritize that. What we ask our field sergeants to [41:37] for us to prioritize that. What we ask our field sergeants to do is as soon as that emergency [41:40] we ask our field sergeants to do is as soon as that emergency [41:40] we ask our field sergeants to do is as soon as that emergency call is done, ensure your [41:42] do is as soon as that emergency call is done, ensure your [41:42] do is as soon as that emergency call is done, ensure your monitoring and those officers [41:43] call is done, ensure your monitoring and those officers [41:43] call is done, ensure your monitoring and those officers are completing the rest of the [41:45] monitoring and those officers are completing the rest of the [41:45] monitoring and those officers are completing the rest of the calls in their stack. It's no [41:47] are completing the rest of the calls in their stack. It's no [41:47] are completing the rest of the calls in their stack. It's no secret that we're short police [41:49] calls in their stack. It's no secret that we're short police [41:49] calls in their stack. It's no secret that we're short police service representatives, and [41:50] secret that we're short police service representatives, and [41:50] secret that we're short police service representatives, and you're also hearing the [41:51] service representatives, and you're also hearing the [41:52] service representatives, and you're also hearing the community complain about the [41:53] you're also hearing the community complain about the [41:53] you're also hearing the community complain about the amount of time it's taking them [41:55] community complain about the amount of time it's taking them [41:55] community complain about the amount of time it's taking them to answer the phone to get to [41:56] amount of time it's taking them to answer the phone to get to [41:56] amount of time it's taking them to answer the phone to get to the non coded calls. And that [41:58] to answer the phone to get to the non coded calls. And that [41:58] to answer the phone to get to the non coded calls. And that also factors into the response [42:00] the non coded calls. And that also factors into the response [42:00] the non coded calls. And that also factors into the response time from the officers as well. [42:02] also factors into the response time from the officers as well. [42:02] also factors into the response time from the officers as well. Yeah. Well just when you have [42:04] time from the officers as well. Yeah. Well just when you have [42:04] time from the officers as well. Yeah. Well just when you have to leave a message at 911 that [42:07] Yeah. Well just when you have to leave a message at 911 that [42:07] Yeah. Well just when you have to leave a message at 911 that that is evidence of a system [42:09] to leave a message at 911 that that is evidence of a system [42:10] to leave a message at 911 that that is evidence of a system that cannot handle the current [42:11] that is evidence of a system that cannot handle the current [42:11] that is evidence of a system that cannot handle the current level of strain and demand. I'm [42:13] that cannot handle the current level of strain and demand. I'm [42:13] that cannot handle the current level of strain and demand. I'm actually surprised, pleasantly [42:15] level of strain and demand. I'm actually surprised, pleasantly [42:15] level of strain and demand. I'm actually surprised, pleasantly surprised to hear you say that [42:17] actually surprised, pleasantly surprised to hear you say that [42:17] actually surprised, pleasantly surprised to hear you say that we are actually meeting that [42:18] surprised to hear you say that we are actually meeting that [42:19] surprised to hear you say that we are actually meeting that seven minutes, because probably [42:20] we are actually meeting that seven minutes, because probably [42:20] we are actually meeting that seven minutes, because probably not surprising to anyone, I [42:21] seven minutes, because probably not surprising to anyone, I [42:21] seven minutes, because probably not surprising to anyone, I spent a lot of time with LAPD [42:23] not surprising to anyone, I spent a lot of time with LAPD [42:23] not surprising to anyone, I spent a lot of time with LAPD and. I will just share [42:28] spent a lot of time with LAPD and. I will just share [42:28] spent a lot of time with LAPD and. I will just share anecdotally, and I'm sure [42:29] and. I will just share anecdotally, and I'm sure [42:29] and. I will just share anecdotally, and I'm sure similar is true across [42:31] anecdotally, and I'm sure similar is true across [42:31] anecdotally, and I'm sure similar is true across divisions, but just use Pacific [42:33] similar is true across divisions, but just use Pacific [42:33] similar is true across divisions, but just use Pacific Division as an example. Under [42:34] divisions, but just use Pacific Division as an example. Under [42:34] divisions, but just use Pacific Division as an example. Under the basic car plan, you've got [42:35] Division as an example. Under the basic car plan, you've got [42:36] Division as an example. Under the basic car plan, you've got what, seven cars and then a [42:37] the basic car plan, you've got what, seven cars and then a [42:37] the basic car plan, you've got what, seven cars and then a supervisor occasionally in and [42:38] what, seven cars and then a supervisor occasionally in and [42:38] what, seven cars and then a supervisor occasionally in and out, depending on what they're [42:39] supervisor occasionally in and out, depending on what they're [42:39] supervisor occasionally in and out, depending on what they're doing and the geographic region. [42:42] out, depending on what they're doing and the geographic region. [42:42] out, depending on what they're doing and the geographic region. Well, it's for West L.A. [42:43] doing and the geographic region. Well, it's for West L.A. [42:43] doing and the geographic region. Well, it's for West L.A. Division two. It may have one [42:45] Well, it's for West L.A. Division two. It may have one [42:45] Well, it's for West L.A. Division two. It may have one of the largest geographic [42:46] Division two. It may have one of the largest geographic [42:46] Division two. It may have one of the largest geographic regions, so drive times are [42:47] of the largest geographic regions, so drive times are [42:47] of the largest geographic regions, so drive times are many, many miles. I mean, to [42:49] regions, so drive times are many, many miles. I mean, to [42:49] regions, so drive times are many, many miles. I mean, to get from West LA over to a call [42:51] many, many miles. I mean, to get from West LA over to a call [42:51] many, many miles. I mean, to get from West LA over to a call deep into the Palisades, you [42:53] get from West LA over to a call deep into the Palisades, you [42:53] get from West LA over to a call deep into the Palisades, you might be looking at a 40 50 [42:54] deep into the Palisades, you might be looking at a 40 50 [42:55] deep into the Palisades, you might be looking at a 40 50 minute commute time during [42:57] might be looking at a 40 50 minute commute time during [42:57] might be looking at a 40 50 minute commute time during traffic. And we all know we [42:57] minute commute time during traffic. And we all know we [42:57] minute commute time during traffic. And we all know we hardly ever have a car in the [42:59] traffic. And we all know we hardly ever have a car in the [42:59] traffic. And we all know we hardly ever have a car in the Palisades because they have to [43:00] hardly ever have a car in the Palisades because they have to [43:00] hardly ever have a car in the Palisades because they have to go where the calls are. That's [43:02] Palisades because they have to go where the calls are. That's [43:02] Palisades because they have to go where the calls are. That's West L.A. Division in Pacific. [43:04] go where the calls are. That's West L.A. Division in Pacific. [43:04] go where the calls are. That's West L.A. Division in Pacific. Same. Yeah, and Venice tends to [43:07] West L.A. Division in Pacific. Same. Yeah, and Venice tends to [43:07] West L.A. Division in Pacific. Same. Yeah, and Venice tends to suck up more of the resources [43:08] Same. Yeah, and Venice tends to suck up more of the resources [43:08] Same. Yeah, and Venice tends to suck up more of the resources than some of the surrounding [43:10] suck up more of the resources than some of the surrounding [43:10] suck up more of the resources than some of the surrounding neighborhoods. And so I just [43:12] than some of the surrounding neighborhoods. And so I just [43:13] than some of the surrounding neighborhoods. And so I just from what I'm hearing, it [43:14] neighborhoods. And so I just from what I'm hearing, it [43:14] neighborhoods. And so I just from what I'm hearing, it doesn't with the issues that I [43:16] from what I'm hearing, it doesn't with the issues that I [43:16] from what I'm hearing, it doesn't with the issues that I hear directly from our police [43:18] doesn't with the issues that I hear directly from our police [43:18] doesn't with the issues that I hear directly from our police officers in terms of their [43:19] hear directly from our police officers in terms of their [43:19] hear directly from our police officers in terms of their workload and what they're [43:20] officers in terms of their workload and what they're [43:20] officers in terms of their workload and what they're dealing with in the field, and [43:22] workload and what they're dealing with in the field, and [43:22] workload and what they're dealing with in the field, and what I'm hearing from [43:23] dealing with in the field, and what I'm hearing from [43:23] dealing with in the field, and what I'm hearing from constituents, which is just [43:24] what I'm hearing from constituents, which is just [43:24] what I'm hearing from constituents, which is just these really unacceptably long [43:27] constituents, which is just these really unacceptably long [43:27] constituents, which is just these really unacceptably long delays in getting back. And I [43:29] these really unacceptably long delays in getting back. And I [43:29] these really unacceptably long delays in getting back. And I understand the whys for it. But [43:31] delays in getting back. And I understand the whys for it. But [43:31] delays in getting back. And I understand the whys for it. But as we're thinking about the [43:33] understand the whys for it. But as we're thinking about the [43:33] understand the whys for it. But as we're thinking about the staffing plans and the patrol [43:35] as we're thinking about the staffing plans and the patrol [43:35] as we're thinking about the staffing plans and the patrol plans and the basic car plans, [43:37] staffing plans and the patrol plans and the basic car plans, [43:37] staffing plans and the patrol plans and the basic car plans, I'm just wondering especially [43:38] plans and the basic car plans, I'm just wondering especially [43:38] plans and the basic car plans, I'm just wondering especially if we're going to be studying [43:40] I'm just wondering especially if we're going to be studying [43:40] I'm just wondering especially if we're going to be studying this again, how do we account [43:43] if we're going to be studying this again, how do we account [43:44] if we're going to be studying this again, how do we account better for some of that? I, I [43:46] this again, how do we account better for some of that? I, I [43:46] this again, how do we account better for some of that? I, I hear you loud and clear, and [43:48] better for some of that? I, I hear you loud and clear, and [43:48] better for some of that? I, I hear you loud and clear, and we've been having a lot of [43:50] hear you loud and clear, and we've been having a lot of [43:50] hear you loud and clear, and we've been having a lot of discussions about that. And I, [43:51] we've been having a lot of discussions about that. And I, [43:51] we've been having a lot of discussions about that. And I, I think that and I know our [43:54] discussions about that. And I, I think that and I know our [43:54] discussions about that. And I, I think that and I know our chief has talked about it, you [43:56] I think that and I know our chief has talked about it, you [43:56] I think that and I know our chief has talked about it, you know, to the exhaustion is when [43:58] chief has talked about it, you know, to the exhaustion is when [43:58] chief has talked about it, you know, to the exhaustion is when you're down over 1500 police [44:01] know, to the exhaustion is when you're down over 1500 police [44:01] know, to the exhaustion is when you're down over 1500 police officers, you don't have those [44:03] you're down over 1500 police officers, you don't have those [44:03] you're down over 1500 police officers, you don't have those additional X cars, bicycle [44:05] officers, you don't have those additional X cars, bicycle [44:05] officers, you don't have those additional X cars, bicycle units, foot beats to help out [44:07] additional X cars, bicycle units, foot beats to help out [44:07] additional X cars, bicycle units, foot beats to help out and handle those calls. The [44:09] units, foot beats to help out and handle those calls. The [44:09] units, foot beats to help out and handle those calls. The numbers just don't add up. So [44:12] and handle those calls. The numbers just don't add up. So [44:12] and handle those calls. The numbers just don't add up. So you have officers that are [44:13] numbers just don't add up. So you have officers that are [44:13] numbers just don't add up. So you have officers that are saying they're exhausted. It's [44:14] you have officers that are saying they're exhausted. It's [44:14] you have officers that are saying they're exhausted. It's because they literally are [44:16] saying they're exhausted. It's because they literally are [44:16] saying they're exhausted. It's because they literally are stacking up that radio call and [44:18] because they literally are stacking up that radio call and [44:18] because they literally are stacking up that radio call and they're just going call to call [44:20] stacking up that radio call and they're just going call to call [44:20] stacking up that radio call and they're just going call to call to call to call to call. And we [44:22] they're just going call to call to call to call to call. And we [44:22] they're just going call to call to call to call to call. And we don't have that relief factor [44:24] to call to call to call. And we don't have that relief factor [44:24] to call to call to call. And we don't have that relief factor of an X car or a U-boat or an [44:27] don't have that relief factor of an X car or a U-boat or an [44:27] don't have that relief factor of an X car or a U-boat or an Elk car, sometimes not even a [44:30] of an X car or a U-boat or an Elk car, sometimes not even a [44:30] of an X car or a U-boat or an Elk car, sometimes not even a traffic unit. And so those [44:31] Elk car, sometimes not even a traffic unit. And so those [44:31] Elk car, sometimes not even a traffic unit. And so those additional 1500 officers matter [44:34] traffic unit. And so those additional 1500 officers matter [44:34] traffic unit. And so those additional 1500 officers matter when it comes to non coded [44:36] additional 1500 officers matter when it comes to non coded [44:36] additional 1500 officers matter when it comes to non coded calls, quality of life issues [44:38] when it comes to non coded calls, quality of life issues [44:39] when it comes to non coded calls, quality of life issues and all of the other, you know, [44:40] calls, quality of life issues and all of the other, you know, [44:40] calls, quality of life issues and all of the other, you know, public health public safety [44:42] and all of the other, you know, public health public safety [44:42] and all of the other, you know, public health public safety concerns in our city. Yeah. [44:44] public health public safety concerns in our city. Yeah. [44:44] public health public safety concerns in our city. Yeah. Because I will tell you I've [44:46] concerns in our city. Yeah. Because I will tell you I've [44:46] concerns in our city. Yeah. Because I will tell you I've anecdotally I've been in the [44:47] Because I will tell you I've anecdotally I've been in the [44:48] Because I will tell you I've anecdotally I've been in the car with LAPD driving around [44:50] anecdotally I've been in the car with LAPD driving around [44:50] anecdotally I've been in the car with LAPD driving around and we just roll. And I see it [44:52] car with LAPD driving around and we just roll. And I see it [44:52] car with LAPD driving around and we just roll. And I see it happen all the time. When I'm [44:53] and we just roll. And I see it happen all the time. When I'm [44:54] and we just roll. And I see it happen all the time. When I'm not in the car, they roll right [44:55] happen all the time. When I'm not in the car, they roll right [44:55] happen all the time. When I'm not in the car, they roll right by all the quality of life [44:57] not in the car, they roll right by all the quality of life [44:57] not in the car, they roll right by all the quality of life issues because they don't have [44:58] by all the quality of life issues because they don't have [44:58] by all the quality of life issues because they don't have 40% or 30% or any percent of [45:00] issues because they don't have 40% or 30% or any percent of [45:01] issues because they don't have 40% or 30% or any percent of their time to do any of that [45:03] 40% or 30% or any percent of their time to do any of that [45:03] 40% or 30% or any percent of their time to do any of that proactive policing. So I'm glad [45:06] their time to do any of that proactive policing. So I'm glad [45:06] their time to do any of that proactive policing. So I'm glad that the report says these [45:07] proactive policing. So I'm glad that the report says these [45:07] proactive policing. So I'm glad that the report says these numbers are being met. I'm just [45:09] that the report says these numbers are being met. I'm just [45:09] that the report says these numbers are being met. I'm just telling you anecdotally, it [45:10] numbers are being met. I'm just telling you anecdotally, it [45:10] numbers are being met. I'm just telling you anecdotally, it doesn't match up with my [45:11] telling you anecdotally, it doesn't match up with my [45:11] telling you anecdotally, it doesn't match up with my personal experience, what I'm [45:12] doesn't match up with my personal experience, what I'm [45:12] doesn't match up with my personal experience, what I'm being told or what I've [45:14] personal experience, what I'm being told or what I've [45:14] personal experience, what I'm being told or what I've observed. So I just offer that [45:16] being told or what I've observed. So I just offer that [45:16] being told or what I've observed. So I just offer that as context and really as a plug [45:18] observed. So I just offer that as context and really as a plug [45:18] observed. So I just offer that as context and really as a plug for you. We need more bodies. [45:20] as context and really as a plug for you. We need more bodies. [45:20] as context and really as a plug for you. We need more bodies. Yes, and I will also share with [45:22] for you. We need more bodies. Yes, and I will also share with [45:23] for you. We need more bodies. Yes, and I will also share with you. I have spent time recently [45:24] Yes, and I will also share with you. I have spent time recently [45:24] Yes, and I will also share with you. I have spent time recently in both of my divisions, and [45:25] you. I have spent time recently in both of my divisions, and [45:25] you. I have spent time recently in both of my divisions, and one of the biggest complaints [45:26] in both of my divisions, and one of the biggest complaints [45:26] in both of my divisions, and one of the biggest complaints that I am hearing from officers [45:29] one of the biggest complaints that I am hearing from officers [45:29] one of the biggest complaints that I am hearing from officers is the desk work. I mean, you [45:31] that I am hearing from officers is the desk work. I mean, you [45:31] that I am hearing from officers is the desk work. I mean, you have got sworn officers sitting [45:33] is the desk work. I mean, you have got sworn officers sitting [45:33] is the desk work. I mean, you have got sworn officers sitting there doing things that [45:35] have got sworn officers sitting there doing things that [45:35] have got sworn officers sitting there doing things that civilian admin employees can, [45:39] there doing things that civilian admin employees can, [45:39] there doing things that civilian admin employees can, should and ought to be doing. [45:40] civilian admin employees can, should and ought to be doing. [45:40] civilian admin employees can, should and ought to be doing. And I understand these officers [45:42] should and ought to be doing. And I understand these officers [45:42] should and ought to be doing. And I understand these officers have taken on those duties [45:44] And I understand these officers have taken on those duties [45:44] And I understand these officers have taken on those duties because we've eliminated so [45:45] have taken on those duties because we've eliminated so [45:45] have taken on those duties because we've eliminated so much of the civilian personnel. [45:47] because we've eliminated so much of the civilian personnel. [45:47] because we've eliminated so much of the civilian personnel. So we're just compounding our [45:48] much of the civilian personnel. So we're just compounding our [45:48] much of the civilian personnel. So we're just compounding our own problems. But I say that as [45:51] So we're just compounding our own problems. But I say that as [45:51] So we're just compounding our own problems. But I say that as a way to set the table heading [45:52] own problems. But I say that as a way to set the table heading [45:53] own problems. But I say that as a way to set the table heading into our next budget cycle, and [45:54] a way to set the table heading into our next budget cycle, and [45:54] a way to set the table heading into our next budget cycle, and your planning around staffing, [45:57] into our next budget cycle, and your planning around staffing, [45:57] into our next budget cycle, and your planning around staffing, that, I don't know how we're [45:59] your planning around staffing, that, I don't know how we're [45:59] your planning around staffing, that, I don't know how we're actually going to get us where [46:01] that, I don't know how we're actually going to get us where [46:01] that, I don't know how we're actually going to get us where we need to be unless we also [46:03] actually going to get us where we need to be unless we also [46:03] actually going to get us where we need to be unless we also start looking at some [46:05] we need to be unless we also start looking at some [46:05] we need to be unless we also start looking at some reconfigurations and where and [46:06] start looking at some reconfigurations and where and [46:06] start looking at some reconfigurations and where and how we're using our bodies that [46:07] reconfigurations and where and how we're using our bodies that [46:07] reconfigurations and where and how we're using our bodies that we do have. Absolutely. That [46:10] how we're using our bodies that we do have. Absolutely. That [46:10] how we're using our bodies that we do have. Absolutely. That was it. Thank you, Mister chair. [46:12] we do have. Absolutely. That was it. Thank you, Mister chair. [46:13] we do have. Absolutely. That was it. Thank you, Mister chair. Senator Martinez. Yes. Thank [46:14] was it. Thank you, Mister chair. Senator Martinez. Yes. Thank [46:14] was it. Thank you, Mister chair. Senator Martinez. Yes. Thank you so much, Mister Chair. [46:15] Senator Martinez. Yes. Thank you so much, Mister Chair. [46:15] Senator Martinez. Yes. Thank you so much, Mister Chair. Thank you so much for this [46:16] you so much, Mister Chair. Thank you so much for this [46:16] you so much, Mister Chair. Thank you so much for this report. It's really [46:20] Thank you so much for this report. It's really [46:20] Thank you so much for this report. It's really illuminating to see the work [46:21] report. It's really illuminating to see the work [46:22] report. It's really illuminating to see the work that our police officers do. [46:24] illuminating to see the work that our police officers do. [46:24] illuminating to see the work that our police officers do. And I'm happy to hear that. You [46:26] that our police officers do. And I'm happy to hear that. You [46:26] that our police officers do. And I'm happy to hear that. You know, the seven minute response [46:27] And I'm happy to hear that. You know, the seven minute response [46:27] And I'm happy to hear that. You know, the seven minute response time is happening. Obviously, [46:30] know, the seven minute response time is happening. Obviously, [46:30] know, the seven minute response time is happening. Obviously, the non-coated. Cause, I mean, [46:33] time is happening. Obviously, the non-coated. Cause, I mean, [46:33] time is happening. Obviously, the non-coated. Cause, I mean, that's the complaints we get, [46:34] the non-coated. Cause, I mean, that's the complaints we get, [46:35] the non-coated. Cause, I mean, that's the complaints we get, right? It's like something they, [46:36] that's the complaints we get, right? It's like something they, [46:36] that's the complaints we get, right? It's like something they, our constituents, experience, [46:38] right? It's like something they, our constituents, experience, [46:38] right? It's like something they, our constituents, experience, something legitimately [46:39] our constituents, experience, something legitimately [46:40] our constituents, experience, something legitimately traumatic, but it's not urgent. [46:42] something legitimately traumatic, but it's not urgent. [46:43] something legitimately traumatic, but it's not urgent. It's not violent. And so, you [46:45] traumatic, but it's not urgent. It's not violent. And so, you [46:45] traumatic, but it's not urgent. It's not violent. And so, you know, police officers tell me [46:46] It's not violent. And so, you know, police officers tell me [46:46] It's not violent. And so, you know, police officers tell me all the time like I'll get to [46:48] know, police officers tell me all the time like I'll get to [46:48] know, police officers tell me all the time like I'll get to it when I get to it. Sometimes [46:50] all the time like I'll get to it when I get to it. Sometimes [46:50] all the time like I'll get to it when I get to it. Sometimes they don't get to it the next [46:52] it when I get to it. Sometimes they don't get to it the next [46:52] it when I get to it. Sometimes they don't get to it the next day. You know, they pass it on [46:53] they don't get to it the next day. You know, they pass it on [46:53] they don't get to it the next day. You know, they pass it on to the other folks. So which I [46:55] day. You know, they pass it on to the other folks. So which I [46:55] day. You know, they pass it on to the other folks. So which I really want to emphasize, like, [46:56] to the other folks. So which I really want to emphasize, like, [46:56] to the other folks. So which I really want to emphasize, like, that's why we need to expand [46:58] really want to emphasize, like, that's why we need to expand [46:58] really want to emphasize, like, that's why we need to expand the unarmed model of crisis [46:59] that's why we need to expand the unarmed model of crisis [46:59] that's why we need to expand the unarmed model of crisis response. It's much more [47:01] the unarmed model of crisis response. It's much more [47:01] the unarmed model of crisis response. It's much more effective. It's it takes these [47:03] response. It's much more effective. It's it takes these [47:03] response. It's much more effective. It's it takes these calls off of police officers. [47:06] effective. It's it takes these calls off of police officers. [47:06] effective. It's it takes these calls off of police officers. It's cheaper for taxpayers, you [47:09] calls off of police officers. It's cheaper for taxpayers, you [47:09] calls off of police officers. It's cheaper for taxpayers, you know, like we need to give them [47:10] It's cheaper for taxpayers, you know, like we need to give them [47:10] It's cheaper for taxpayers, you know, like we need to give them as many calls as possible so [47:12] know, like we need to give them as many calls as possible so [47:12] know, like we need to give them as many calls as possible so that our officers can focus on [47:14] as many calls as possible so that our officers can focus on [47:14] as many calls as possible so that our officers can focus on the really, truly urgent things. [47:16] that our officers can focus on the really, truly urgent things. [47:16] that our officers can focus on the really, truly urgent things. But but I'm glad that [47:18] the really, truly urgent things. But but I'm glad that [47:18] the really, truly urgent things. But but I'm glad that nevertheless, they're still [47:19] But but I'm glad that nevertheless, they're still [47:19] But but I'm glad that nevertheless, they're still responding within seven minutes. [47:21] nevertheless, they're still responding within seven minutes. [47:21] nevertheless, they're still responding within seven minutes. You mentioned a little bit [47:22] responding within seven minutes. You mentioned a little bit [47:22] responding within seven minutes. You mentioned a little bit earlier about having to do an [47:25] You mentioned a little bit earlier about having to do an [47:25] You mentioned a little bit earlier about having to do an RFP. Sorry, I was a little [47:27] earlier about having to do an RFP. Sorry, I was a little [47:27] earlier about having to do an RFP. Sorry, I was a little confusing. Is that to to draw [47:28] RFP. Sorry, I was a little confusing. Is that to to draw [47:29] RFP. Sorry, I was a little confusing. Is that to to draw the division lines or what was [47:31] confusing. Is that to to draw the division lines or what was [47:31] confusing. Is that to to draw the division lines or what was RFP for? Sorry, I was a little [47:33] the division lines or what was RFP for? Sorry, I was a little [47:33] the division lines or what was RFP for? Sorry, I was a little confused. That would be to [47:35] RFP for? Sorry, I was a little confused. That would be to [47:35] RFP for? Sorry, I was a little confused. That would be to actually have a study done of [47:37] confused. That would be to actually have a study done of [47:37] confused. That would be to actually have a study done of the basic Enforcement uh plan [47:39] actually have a study done of the basic Enforcement uh plan [47:39] actually have a study done of the basic Enforcement uh plan and get recommendations from [47:41] the basic Enforcement uh plan and get recommendations from [47:41] the basic Enforcement uh plan and get recommendations from whatever company that was hired [47:44] and get recommendations from whatever company that was hired [47:44] and get recommendations from whatever company that was hired to do that study or do that [47:46] whatever company that was hired to do that study or do that [47:46] whatever company that was hired to do that study or do that plan. And that plan would be to [47:48] to do that study or do that plan. And that plan would be to [47:48] to do that study or do that plan. And that plan would be to determine how many cars are per [47:50] plan. And that plan would be to determine how many cars are per [47:50] plan. And that plan would be to determine how many cars are per division. Or is that is that [47:52] determine how many cars are per division. Or is that is that [47:52] determine how many cars are per division. Or is that is that what it's for? Yes. So [47:54] division. Or is that is that what it's for? Yes. So [47:54] division. Or is that is that what it's for? Yes. So currently they are at the 168. [47:56] what it's for? Yes. So currently they are at the 168. [47:56] what it's for? Yes. So currently they are at the 168. For example, central has six [47:58] currently they are at the 168. For example, central has six [47:58] currently they are at the 168. For example, central has six basic cars. Central is one of [48:00] For example, central has six basic cars. Central is one of [48:00] For example, central has six basic cars. Central is one of the busiest call load divisions. [48:01] basic cars. Central is one of the busiest call load divisions. [48:01] basic cars. Central is one of the busiest call load divisions. They could potentially need [48:03] the busiest call load divisions. They could potentially need [48:03] the busiest call load divisions. They could potentially need additional eight cars. So they [48:05] They could potentially need additional eight cars. So they [48:05] They could potentially need additional eight cars. So they do have more than six senior [48:07] additional eight cars. So they do have more than six senior [48:07] additional eight cars. So they do have more than six senior lead officers that have been [48:08] do have more than six senior lead officers that have been [48:08] do have more than six senior lead officers that have been taken. We have eight senior [48:10] lead officers that have been taken. We have eight senior [48:10] lead officers that have been taken. We have eight senior lead officers to help out with [48:11] taken. We have eight senior lead officers to help out with [48:11] taken. We have eight senior lead officers to help out with that. But so that could be an [48:14] lead officers to help out with that. But so that could be an [48:14] lead officers to help out with that. But so that could be an aspect. But the patrol plan is [48:15] that. But so that could be an aspect. But the patrol plan is [48:15] that. But so that could be an aspect. But the patrol plan is something different. We don't [48:17] aspect. But the patrol plan is something different. We don't [48:17] aspect. But the patrol plan is something different. We don't just staff them enough for the [48:18] something different. We don't just staff them enough for the [48:19] something different. We don't just staff them enough for the six basic eight cars. Their [48:20] just staff them enough for the six basic eight cars. Their [48:20] just staff them enough for the six basic eight cars. Their staff are having eight cars [48:21] six basic eight cars. Their staff are having eight cars [48:21] six basic eight cars. Their staff are having eight cars that needed to meet the demand [48:22] staff are having eight cars that needed to meet the demand [48:23] staff are having eight cars that needed to meet the demand in central any given shift. So. [48:25] that needed to meet the demand in central any given shift. So. [48:25] that needed to meet the demand in central any given shift. So. But the basic a car part is [48:27] in central any given shift. So. But the basic a car part is [48:27] in central any given shift. So. But the basic a car part is just do a study on each [48:29] But the basic a car part is just do a study on each [48:29] But the basic a car part is just do a study on each division, the size of division [48:30] just do a study on each division, the size of division [48:30] just do a study on each division, the size of division where the location is, maybe [48:31] division, the size of division where the location is, maybe [48:32] division, the size of division where the location is, maybe add take away, and then with [48:33] where the location is, maybe add take away, and then with [48:33] where the location is, maybe add take away, and then with that, once they come up with [48:34] add take away, and then with that, once they come up with [48:34] add take away, and then with that, once they come up with once whoever does it comes out [48:36] that, once they come up with once whoever does it comes out [48:36] that, once they come up with once whoever does it comes out with the number of say, central [48:37] once whoever does it comes out with the number of say, central [48:38] once whoever does it comes out with the number of say, central needs 12, then we'd have to add [48:39] with the number of say, central needs 12, then we'd have to add [48:39] with the number of say, central needs 12, then we'd have to add whatever additional senior lead [48:40] needs 12, then we'd have to add whatever additional senior lead [48:40] needs 12, then we'd have to add whatever additional senior lead officers and other community [48:42] whatever additional senior lead officers and other community [48:42] whatever additional senior lead officers and other community relations officers that would [48:43] officers and other community relations officers that would [48:43] officers and other community relations officers that would meet that that need. And when's [48:45] relations officers that would meet that that need. And when's [48:45] relations officers that would meet that that need. And when's the last time that report was [48:47] meet that that need. And when's the last time that report was [48:47] meet that that need. And when's the last time that report was done? You said there was a this [48:49] the last time that report was done? You said there was a this [48:49] the last time that report was done? You said there was a this process was done in was it a. A [48:56] done? You said there was a this process was done in was it a. A [48:56] done? You said there was a this process was done in was it a. A finalized draft was done in 20 [49:01] process was done in was it a. A finalized draft was done in 20 [49:01] process was done in was it a. A finalized draft was done in 20 2021, but due to Covid and [49:07] finalized draft was done in 20 2021, but due to Covid and [49:07] finalized draft was done in 20 2021, but due to Covid and everything else that was going [49:08] 2021, but due to Covid and everything else that was going [49:08] 2021, but due to Covid and everything else that was going on at the time, it wasn't [49:10] everything else that was going on at the time, it wasn't [49:10] everything else that was going on at the time, it wasn't implemented. And between now [49:11] on at the time, it wasn't implemented. And between now [49:11] on at the time, it wasn't implemented. And between now and then, the time has become [49:15] implemented. And between now and then, the time has become [49:15] implemented. And between now and then, the time has become someone has arrived. Do you [49:17] and then, the time has become someone has arrived. Do you [49:17] and then, the time has become someone has arrived. Do you want to elaborate on this? Yes. [49:20] someone has arrived. Do you want to elaborate on this? Yes. [49:20] someone has arrived. Do you want to elaborate on this? Yes. Thanks. Ed Rose with the CIO's [49:22] want to elaborate on this? Yes. Thanks. Ed Rose with the CIO's [49:22] want to elaborate on this? Yes. Thanks. Ed Rose with the CIO's office. We engaged matrix back [49:24] Thanks. Ed Rose with the CIO's office. We engaged matrix back [49:25] Thanks. Ed Rose with the CIO's office. We engaged matrix back in 2018, September 2018, to do [49:28] office. We engaged matrix back in 2018, September 2018, to do [49:28] office. We engaged matrix back in 2018, September 2018, to do basically the basic car study. [49:30] in 2018, September 2018, to do basically the basic car study. [49:30] in 2018, September 2018, to do basically the basic car study. And back then they did, as LAPD [49:35] basically the basic car study. And back then they did, as LAPD [49:35] basically the basic car study. And back then they did, as LAPD reported, they crunched the [49:37] And back then they did, as LAPD reported, they crunched the [49:37] And back then they did, as LAPD reported, they crunched the numbers. It looked at the [49:38] reported, they crunched the numbers. It looked at the [49:38] reported, they crunched the numbers. It looked at the algorithms based on head counts, [49:40] numbers. It looked at the algorithms based on head counts, [49:40] numbers. It looked at the algorithms based on head counts, topography, call loads, things [49:41] algorithms based on head counts, topography, call loads, things [49:41] algorithms based on head counts, topography, call loads, things of that nature. I think that's [49:43] topography, call loads, things of that nature. I think that's [49:43] topography, call loads, things of that nature. I think that's what we want to replicate now, [49:45] of that nature. I think that's what we want to replicate now, [49:45] of that nature. I think that's what we want to replicate now, at least to do a refresh, [49:46] what we want to replicate now, at least to do a refresh, [49:46] what we want to replicate now, at least to do a refresh, because what we did back then, [49:48] at least to do a refresh, because what we did back then, [49:48] at least to do a refresh, because what we did back then, it was based on head count of [49:50] because what we did back then, it was based on head count of [49:50] because what we did back then, it was based on head count of about 10,040. You know, we've [49:52] it was based on head count of about 10,040. You know, we've [49:53] it was based on head count of about 10,040. You know, we've we've gone down significantly [49:55] about 10,040. You know, we've we've gone down significantly [49:55] about 10,040. You know, we've we've gone down significantly to about 8700 right now. So I [49:59] we've gone down significantly to about 8700 right now. So I [49:59] we've gone down significantly to about 8700 right now. So I think it would be beneficial to [50:00] to about 8700 right now. So I think it would be beneficial to [50:00] to about 8700 right now. So I think it would be beneficial to do a refresh based on fresh [50:02] think it would be beneficial to do a refresh based on fresh [50:02] think it would be beneficial to do a refresh based on fresh data. And even when we released [50:03] do a refresh based on fresh data. And even when we released [50:04] do a refresh based on fresh data. And even when we released our report back in 2021, it was [50:06] data. And even when we released our report back in 2021, it was [50:06] data. And even when we released our report back in 2021, it was based on 2018 data. So it was [50:09] our report back in 2021, it was based on 2018 data. So it was [50:09] our report back in 2021, it was based on 2018 data. So it was kind of old at that point too. [50:11] based on 2018 data. So it was kind of old at that point too. [50:11] based on 2018 data. So it was kind of old at that point too. And the pandemic got in the way [50:12] kind of old at that point too. And the pandemic got in the way [50:12] kind of old at that point too. And the pandemic got in the way and it kind of got, you know, [50:14] And the pandemic got in the way and it kind of got, you know, [50:14] And the pandemic got in the way and it kind of got, you know, extended out. So we issued an [50:16] and it kind of got, you know, extended out. So we issued an [50:16] and it kind of got, you know, extended out. So we issued an RFP or some Action Council [50:18] extended out. So we issued an RFP or some Action Council [50:18] extended out. So we issued an RFP or some Action Council action in 2018. Put it out to [50:19] RFP or some Action Council action in 2018. Put it out to [50:20] RFP or some Action Council action in 2018. Put it out to RFP. We got it back. 2021 COVID [50:21] action in 2018. Put it out to RFP. We got it back. 2021 COVID [50:21] action in 2018. Put it out to RFP. We got it back. 2021 COVID like the data is messed up now [50:23] RFP. We got it back. 2021 COVID like the data is messed up now [50:23] RFP. We got it back. 2021 COVID like the data is messed up now we're in 2026 okay. So what [50:27] like the data is messed up now we're in 2026 okay. So what [50:27] like the data is messed up now we're in 2026 okay. So what what? So what are we basing it [50:31] we're in 2026 okay. So what what? So what are we basing it [50:31] we're in 2026 okay. So what what? So what are we basing it on if it's not on the 2021 [50:33] what? So what are we basing it on if it's not on the 2021 [50:33] what? So what are we basing it on if it's not on the 2021 study? Do you I think we're [50:36] on if it's not on the 2021 study? Do you I think we're [50:37] on if it's not on the 2021 study? Do you I think we're talking two different things [50:38] study? Do you I think we're talking two different things [50:38] study? Do you I think we're talking two different things the patrol plan and the basic a [50:40] talking two different things the patrol plan and the basic a [50:40] talking two different things the patrol plan and the basic a car. They're two totally [50:42] the patrol plan and the basic a car. They're two totally [50:42] the patrol plan and the basic a car. They're two totally separate things. So the the ask [50:45] car. They're two totally separate things. So the the ask [50:45] car. They're two totally separate things. So the the ask from the mayor's budget was for [50:47] separate things. So the the ask from the mayor's budget was for [50:47] separate things. So the the ask from the mayor's budget was for LAPD to do both to look at the [50:50] from the mayor's budget was for LAPD to do both to look at the [50:50] from the mayor's budget was for LAPD to do both to look at the basic car plan and, and see if [50:53] LAPD to do both to look at the basic car plan and, and see if [50:53] LAPD to do both to look at the basic car plan and, and see if there's a potential to have the [50:54] basic car plan and, and see if there's a potential to have the [50:54] basic car plan and, and see if there's a potential to have the basic eight cars revised, and [50:56] there's a potential to have the basic eight cars revised, and [50:56] there's a potential to have the basic eight cars revised, and to also look at our patrol plan [50:59] basic eight cars revised, and to also look at our patrol plan [50:59] basic eight cars revised, and to also look at our patrol plan to see if there could be any [51:01] to also look at our patrol plan to see if there could be any [51:01] to also look at our patrol plan to see if there could be any revised in that we were able to [51:03] to see if there could be any revised in that we were able to [51:03] to see if there could be any revised in that we were able to look at our patrol plan, which [51:06] revised in that we were able to look at our patrol plan, which [51:06] revised in that we were able to look at our patrol plan, which normally we would change and [51:08] look at our patrol plan, which normally we would change and [51:08] look at our patrol plan, which normally we would change and look at and revise every [51:10] normally we would change and look at and revise every [51:10] normally we would change and look at and revise every quarter. We hadn't done that [51:12] look at and revise every quarter. We hadn't done that [51:12] look at and revise every quarter. We hadn't done that since 2023. So we just recently [51:17] quarter. We hadn't done that since 2023. So we just recently [51:17] quarter. We hadn't done that since 2023. So we just recently revised our patrol plan and got [51:19] since 2023. So we just recently revised our patrol plan and got [51:19] since 2023. So we just recently revised our patrol plan and got new numbers and have [51:21] revised our patrol plan and got new numbers and have [51:21] revised our patrol plan and got new numbers and have implemented those numbers that [51:22] new numbers and have implemented those numbers that [51:22] new numbers and have implemented those numbers that have our minimums, our 100 [51:25] implemented those numbers that have our minimums, our 100 [51:25] implemented those numbers that have our minimums, our 100 patrol plan, and that we were [51:27] have our minimums, our 100 patrol plan, and that we were [51:27] have our minimums, our 100 patrol plan, and that we were able to do internally. The [51:30] patrol plan, and that we were able to do internally. The [51:30] patrol plan, and that we were able to do internally. The basic a car would require an [51:32] able to do internally. The basic a car would require an [51:32] able to do internally. The basic a car would require an in-depth study like matrix did. [51:34] basic a car would require an in-depth study like matrix did. [51:34] basic a car would require an in-depth study like matrix did. It was a council motion for [51:35] in-depth study like matrix did. It was a council motion for [51:35] in-depth study like matrix did. It was a council motion for Mike Bonin in 2017, and the [51:39] It was a council motion for Mike Bonin in 2017, and the [51:39] It was a council motion for Mike Bonin in 2017, and the study was in 2018. We got that [51:41] Mike Bonin in 2017, and the study was in 2018. We got that [51:41] Mike Bonin in 2017, and the study was in 2018. We got that information back in 2021. COVID [51:44] study was in 2018. We got that information back in 2021. COVID [51:44] study was in 2018. We got that information back in 2021. COVID we had civil unrest and now [51:47] information back in 2021. COVID we had civil unrest and now [51:47] information back in 2021. COVID we had civil unrest and now we're, you know, a couple [51:49] we had civil unrest and now we're, you know, a couple [51:49] we had civil unrest and now we're, you know, a couple thousand officers down and it [51:50] we're, you know, a couple thousand officers down and it [51:50] we're, you know, a couple thousand officers down and it would need to be done again. So [51:52] thousand officers down and it would need to be done again. So [51:52] thousand officers down and it would need to be done again. So we never implemented that one. [51:54] would need to be done again. So we never implemented that one. [51:54] would need to be done again. So we never implemented that one. We never implemented. So I [51:55] we never implemented that one. We never implemented. So I [51:55] we never implemented that one. We never implemented. So I guess that's my question. So [51:56] We never implemented. So I guess that's my question. So [51:56] We never implemented. So I guess that's my question. So what are we implementing right [51:58] guess that's my question. So what are we implementing right [51:58] guess that's my question. So what are we implementing right now and when of what year was [51:59] what are we implementing right now and when of what year was [52:00] what are we implementing right now and when of what year was that done. When was the when [52:02] now and when of what year was that done. When was the when [52:02] now and when of what year was that done. When was the when was when was 1988 okay. So no [52:05] that done. When was the when was when was 1988 okay. So no [52:05] that done. When was the when was when was 1988 okay. So no no that's patrol plan for okay. [52:07] was when was 1988 okay. So no no that's patrol plan for okay. [52:07] was when was 1988 okay. So no no that's patrol plan for okay. Sorry. So I just want to be [52:09] no that's patrol plan for okay. Sorry. So I just want to be [52:09] no that's patrol plan for okay. Sorry. So I just want to be clear the last time, what we [52:11] Sorry. So I just want to be clear the last time, what we [52:11] Sorry. So I just want to be clear the last time, what we are using now is a 1988 basic [52:13] clear the last time, what we are using now is a 1988 basic [52:14] clear the last time, what we are using now is a 1988 basic car study for deployment. No, [52:16] are using now is a 1988 basic car study for deployment. No, [52:16] are using now is a 1988 basic car study for deployment. No, no okay. I don't have the year [52:19] car study for deployment. No, no okay. I don't have the year [52:19] car study for deployment. No, no okay. I don't have the year for that exact. It was 97. 98 [52:22] no okay. I don't have the year for that exact. It was 97. 98 [52:22] no okay. I don't have the year for that exact. It was 97. 98 is the last change to the [52:24] for that exact. It was 97. 98 is the last change to the [52:24] for that exact. It was 97. 98 is the last change to the amount of basic eight cars. [52:25] is the last change to the amount of basic eight cars. [52:25] is the last change to the amount of basic eight cars. Okay, okay. So it's been a [52:27] amount of basic eight cars. Okay, okay. So it's been a [52:27] amount of basic eight cars. Okay, okay. So it's been a while. Do we have a plan to do [52:29] Okay, okay. So it's been a while. Do we have a plan to do [52:29] Okay, okay. So it's been a while. Do we have a plan to do that. Do we have a plan to do [52:31] while. Do we have a plan to do that. Do we have a plan to do [52:31] while. Do we have a plan to do that. Do we have a plan to do that now. No. How much money [52:33] that. Do we have a plan to do that now. No. How much money [52:33] that. Do we have a plan to do that now. No. How much money would that take anyways. We can [52:36] that now. No. How much money would that take anyways. We can [52:36] that now. No. How much money would that take anyways. We can answer this later. But but it [52:37] would that take anyways. We can answer this later. But but it [52:37] would that take anyways. We can answer this later. But but it needs to be done okay. And page [52:42] answer this later. But but it needs to be done okay. And page [52:42] answer this later. But but it needs to be done okay. And page six here it's you're sort of [52:45] needs to be done okay. And page six here it's you're sort of [52:46] needs to be done okay. And page six here it's you're sort of this is the patrol plan. This [52:47] six here it's you're sort of this is the patrol plan. This [52:47] six here it's you're sort of this is the patrol plan. This is not the basic car plan. The [52:49] this is the patrol plan. This is not the basic car plan. The [52:49] this is the patrol plan. This is not the basic car plan. The patrol plan. You have negatives [52:52] is not the basic car plan. The patrol plan. You have negatives [52:52] is not the basic car plan. The patrol plan. You have negatives and surpluses. Yes. So I know [52:55] patrol plan. You have negatives and surpluses. Yes. So I know [52:55] patrol plan. You have negatives and surpluses. Yes. So I know that's the patrol plan. I got [52:57] and surpluses. Yes. So I know that's the patrol plan. I got [52:57] and surpluses. Yes. So I know that's the patrol plan. I got that, but it shows some have [53:00] that's the patrol plan. I got that, but it shows some have [53:00] that's the patrol plan. I got that, but it shows some have pretty big surpluses. Centro [53:03] that, but it shows some have pretty big surpluses. Centro [53:03] that, but it shows some have pretty big surpluses. Centro has 32, Hollenbeck 27. [53:07] pretty big surpluses. Centro has 32, Hollenbeck 27. [53:08] pretty big surpluses. Centro has 32, Hollenbeck 27. Shouldn't that be ideally zero [53:10] has 32, Hollenbeck 27. Shouldn't that be ideally zero [53:11] has 32, Hollenbeck 27. Shouldn't that be ideally zero or so? So. And I want to make [53:14] Shouldn't that be ideally zero or so? So. And I want to make [53:14] Shouldn't that be ideally zero or so? So. And I want to make it clear the surplus is an [53:15] or so? So. And I want to make it clear the surplus is an [53:15] or so? So. And I want to make it clear the surplus is an extra. This is just a an X cars. [53:18] it clear the surplus is an extra. This is just a an X cars. [53:18] it clear the surplus is an extra. This is just a an X cars. It doesn't include gang units, [53:20] extra. This is just a an X cars. It doesn't include gang units, [53:21] extra. This is just a an X cars. It doesn't include gang units, vice units, narcotics units. [53:23] It doesn't include gang units, vice units, narcotics units. [53:23] It doesn't include gang units, vice units, narcotics units. Just so those additional bodies [53:27] vice units, narcotics units. Just so those additional bodies [53:27] vice units, narcotics units. Just so those additional bodies are getting plugged into other [53:29] Just so those additional bodies are getting plugged into other [53:29] Just so those additional bodies are getting plugged into other assignments. This is just [53:31] are getting plugged into other assignments. This is just [53:31] are getting plugged into other assignments. This is just patrol cars. Some of the [53:33] assignments. This is just patrol cars. Some of the [53:33] assignments. This is just patrol cars. Some of the divisions that appear to have [53:35] patrol cars. Some of the divisions that appear to have [53:35] patrol cars. Some of the divisions that appear to have larger numbers. There's [53:37] divisions that appear to have larger numbers. There's [53:37] divisions that appear to have larger numbers. There's something called a chief of [53:38] larger numbers. There's something called a chief of [53:39] larger numbers. There's something called a chief of police adjustment. And [53:41] something called a chief of police adjustment. And [53:41] something called a chief of police adjustment. And divisions like Hollywood have [53:42] police adjustment. And divisions like Hollywood have [53:42] police adjustment. And divisions like Hollywood have the Hollywood entertainment [53:44] divisions like Hollywood have the Hollywood entertainment [53:44] divisions like Hollywood have the Hollywood entertainment detail. So those numbers are a [53:46] the Hollywood entertainment detail. So those numbers are a [53:47] the Hollywood entertainment detail. So those numbers are a chief of police. Well just [53:48] detail. So those numbers are a chief of police. Well just [53:48] detail. So those numbers are a chief of police. Well just central division has reset for [53:50] chief of police. Well just central division has reset for [53:50] chief of police. Well just central division has reset for the skid row area. So those are [53:53] central division has reset for the skid row area. So those are [53:53] central division has reset for the skid row area. So those are an adjust. Some of the [53:55] the skid row area. So those are an adjust. Some of the [53:55] the skid row area. So those are an adjust. Some of the divisions have the community [53:56] an adjust. Some of the divisions have the community [53:56] an adjust. Some of the divisions have the community safety partnership. Those are [53:58] divisions have the community safety partnership. Those are [53:58] divisions have the community safety partnership. Those are an adjust. So depending on on [54:00] safety partnership. Those are an adjust. So depending on on [54:00] safety partnership. Those are an adjust. So depending on on some of the divisions and what [54:02] an adjust. So depending on on some of the divisions and what [54:02] an adjust. So depending on on some of the divisions and what you see, some divisions are [54:04] some of the divisions and what you see, some divisions are [54:04] some of the divisions and what you see, some divisions are allotted a chief of police [54:06] you see, some divisions are allotted a chief of police [54:06] you see, some divisions are allotted a chief of police adjust. And those numbers are [54:08] allotted a chief of police adjust. And those numbers are [54:08] allotted a chief of police adjust. And those numbers are are also included in that. [54:10] adjust. And those numbers are are also included in that. [54:10] adjust. And those numbers are are also included in that. Gotcha. Okay. I think it would [54:12] are also included in that. Gotcha. Okay. I think it would [54:12] are also included in that. Gotcha. Okay. I think it would be helpful to to that's why I'm [54:14] Gotcha. Okay. I think it would be helpful to to that's why I'm [54:14] Gotcha. Okay. I think it would be helpful to to that's why I'm asking that because all I see [54:16] be helpful to to that's why I'm asking that because all I see [54:16] be helpful to to that's why I'm asking that because all I see is a surplus and I'm like, why [54:17] asking that because all I see is a surplus and I'm like, why [54:17] asking that because all I see is a surplus and I'm like, why are we putting more police [54:19] is a surplus and I'm like, why are we putting more police [54:19] is a surplus and I'm like, why are we putting more police officers than we are supposed [54:20] are we putting more police officers than we are supposed [54:20] are we putting more police officers than we are supposed to? But I understand now, I [54:21] officers than we are supposed to? But I understand now, I [54:21] officers than we are supposed to? But I understand now, I completely understand. I have a [54:22] to? But I understand now, I completely understand. I have a [54:23] to? But I understand now, I completely understand. I have a couple more questions about. So [54:26] completely understand. I have a couple more questions about. So [54:26] completely understand. I have a couple more questions about. So we're diverting costs through [54:28] couple more questions about. So we're diverting costs through [54:28] couple more questions about. So we're diverting costs through UMC. I think it's great. Like I [54:30] we're diverting costs through UMC. I think it's great. Like I [54:30] we're diverting costs through UMC. I think it's great. Like I said, it's taking the work off [54:32] UMC. I think it's great. Like I said, it's taking the work off [54:32] UMC. I think it's great. Like I said, it's taking the work off of our police officers. The [54:33] said, it's taking the work off of our police officers. The [54:33] said, it's taking the work off of our police officers. The things that some of them don't [54:34] of our police officers. The things that some of them don't [54:34] of our police officers. The things that some of them don't even want to do. It's cheaper, [54:37] things that some of them don't even want to do. It's cheaper, [54:37] things that some of them don't even want to do. It's cheaper, you know, non-coated most of [54:38] even want to do. It's cheaper, you know, non-coated most of [54:38] even want to do. It's cheaper, you know, non-coated most of them are non-coated cause as [54:40] you know, non-coated most of them are non-coated cause as [54:40] you know, non-coated most of them are non-coated cause as you said, sometimes it takes a, [54:41] them are non-coated cause as you said, sometimes it takes a, [54:41] them are non-coated cause as you said, sometimes it takes a, you know, who knows when. [54:42] you said, sometimes it takes a, you know, who knows when. [54:42] you said, sometimes it takes a, you know, who knows when. Sometimes a day I've heard day [54:44] you know, who knows when. Sometimes a day I've heard day [54:44] you know, who knows when. Sometimes a day I've heard day after. And that response time I [54:45] Sometimes a day I've heard day after. And that response time I [54:45] Sometimes a day I've heard day after. And that response time I think is 28 minutes for UMC. So [54:48] after. And that response time I think is 28 minutes for UMC. So [54:48] after. And that response time I think is 28 minutes for UMC. So is. But I guess you haven't [54:52] think is 28 minutes for UMC. So is. But I guess you haven't [54:52] think is 28 minutes for UMC. So is. But I guess you haven't done the basic enforcement uh [54:54] is. But I guess you haven't done the basic enforcement uh [54:54] is. But I guess you haven't done the basic enforcement uh does that does that affect the [54:56] done the basic enforcement uh does that does that affect the [54:56] done the basic enforcement uh does that does that affect the basic deployment or the current [54:58] does that does that affect the basic deployment or the current [54:58] does that does that affect the basic deployment or the current patrol deployment? Have we have [55:00] basic deployment or the current patrol deployment? Have we have [55:00] basic deployment or the current patrol deployment? Have we have we looked into how that could [55:02] patrol deployment? Have we have we looked into how that could [55:02] patrol deployment? Have we have we looked into how that could go, I assume go down because we [55:04] we looked into how that could go, I assume go down because we [55:04] we looked into how that could go, I assume go down because we just diverting cause well yeah. [55:05] go, I assume go down because we just diverting cause well yeah. [55:05] go, I assume go down because we just diverting cause well yeah. Go ahead. So the basic the [55:07] just diverting cause well yeah. Go ahead. So the basic the [55:07] just diverting cause well yeah. Go ahead. So the basic the patrol plan is calculated [55:08] Go ahead. So the basic the patrol plan is calculated [55:08] Go ahead. So the basic the patrol plan is calculated quarterly. So the amount of [55:10] patrol plan is calculated quarterly. So the amount of [55:10] patrol plan is calculated quarterly. So the amount of radio calls which the UMC takes [55:12] quarterly. So the amount of radio calls which the UMC takes [55:12] quarterly. So the amount of radio calls which the UMC takes away would be that many less [55:14] radio calls which the UMC takes away would be that many less [55:14] radio calls which the UMC takes away would be that many less radio calls that now are fed [55:16] away would be that many less radio calls that now are fed [55:16] away would be that many less radio calls that now are fed into when patrol plans [55:17] radio calls that now are fed into when patrol plans [55:17] radio calls that now are fed into when patrol plans calculated into the [55:18] into when patrol plans calculated into the [55:19] into when patrol plans calculated into the calculations. So if say, let's [55:20] calculated into the calculations. So if say, let's [55:20] calculated into the calculations. So if say, let's just say one area of central [55:22] calculations. So if say, let's just say one area of central [55:22] calculations. So if say, let's just say one area of central had a lot of them, and then [55:24] just say one area of central had a lot of them, and then [55:24] just say one area of central had a lot of them, and then that cuts the percentage down [55:25] had a lot of them, and then that cuts the percentage down [55:25] had a lot of them, and then that cuts the percentage down by like 20%, then their demand [55:28] that cuts the percentage down by like 20%, then their demand [55:28] that cuts the percentage down by like 20%, then their demand would probably go down similar [55:29] by like 20%, then their demand would probably go down similar [55:30] by like 20%, then their demand would probably go down similar to that percentage. Based on [55:31] would probably go down similar to that percentage. Based on [55:31] would probably go down similar to that percentage. Based on that increase in numbers, it [55:32] to that percentage. Based on that increase in numbers, it [55:32] to that percentage. Based on that increase in numbers, it wouldn't be realized until the [55:33] that increase in numbers, it wouldn't be realized until the [55:33] that increase in numbers, it wouldn't be realized until the next year when we calculate [55:35] wouldn't be realized until the next year when we calculate [55:35] wouldn't be realized until the next year when we calculate that quarter. Again though, I [55:37] next year when we calculate that quarter. Again though, I [55:37] next year when we calculate that quarter. Again though, I see. So when I see here in page [55:39] that quarter. Again though, I see. So when I see here in page [55:39] that quarter. Again though, I see. So when I see here in page 6Q1 of 2026, that's not [55:43] see. So when I see here in page 6Q1 of 2026, that's not [55:43] see. So when I see here in page 6Q1 of 2026, that's not included. The new data on UMC [55:45] 6Q1 of 2026, that's not included. The new data on UMC [55:45] 6Q1 of 2026, that's not included. The new data on UMC is not included in that. No, in [55:48] included. The new data on UMC is not included in that. No, in [55:48] included. The new data on UMC is not included in that. No, in the new the new patrol plan. [55:50] is not included in that. No, in the new the new patrol plan. [55:50] is not included in that. No, in the new the new patrol plan. But this that would be so [55:51] the new the new patrol plan. But this that would be so [55:51] the new the new patrol plan. But this that would be so patrol plan quarter one 2026 is [55:53] But this that would be so patrol plan quarter one 2026 is [55:54] But this that would be so patrol plan quarter one 2026 is based off of data from quarter [55:55] patrol plan quarter one 2026 is based off of data from quarter [55:55] patrol plan quarter one 2026 is based off of data from quarter one 2025. So some some had are [55:59] based off of data from quarter one 2025. So some some had are [55:59] based off of data from quarter one 2025. So some some had are you including circle I know [56:00] one 2025. So some some had are you including circle I know [56:00] one 2025. So some some had are you including circle I know I'll Penny Lane and Exodus were [56:02] you including circle I know I'll Penny Lane and Exodus were [56:02] you including circle I know I'll Penny Lane and Exodus were sort of new. We're I know we're [56:05] I'll Penny Lane and Exodus were sort of new. We're I know we're [56:05] I'll Penny Lane and Exodus were sort of new. We're I know we're at six now or going to seven or [56:07] sort of new. We're I know we're at six now or going to seven or [56:07] sort of new. We're I know we're at six now or going to seven or something but does this include [56:08] at six now or going to seven or something but does this include [56:08] at six now or going to seven or something but does this include circle the circle program. Any [56:10] something but does this include circle the circle program. Any [56:10] something but does this include circle the circle program. Any any radio calls that weren't [56:11] circle the circle program. Any any radio calls that weren't [56:12] circle the circle program. Any any radio calls that weren't didn't generate it would be [56:14] any radio calls that weren't didn't generate it would be [56:14] any radio calls that weren't didn't generate it would be down by that many in that data [56:16] didn't generate it would be down by that many in that data [56:16] didn't generate it would be down by that many in that data set. So as the program [56:17] down by that many in that data set. So as the program [56:17] down by that many in that data set. So as the program continues and expands, you'll [56:18] set. So as the program continues and expands, you'll [56:19] set. So as the program continues and expands, you'll be able to continue to adjust [56:20] continues and expands, you'll be able to continue to adjust [56:20] continues and expands, you'll be able to continue to adjust your patrol plan. Yes. Every [56:22] be able to continue to adjust your patrol plan. Yes. Every [56:22] be able to continue to adjust your patrol plan. Yes. Every quarter. That's great. I may [56:23] your patrol plan. Yes. Every quarter. That's great. I may [56:23] your patrol plan. Yes. Every quarter. That's great. I may have more questions. This is [56:24] quarter. That's great. I may have more questions. This is [56:24] quarter. That's great. I may have more questions. This is really fascinating stuff. By [56:25] have more questions. This is really fascinating stuff. By [56:25] have more questions. This is really fascinating stuff. By the way. This is I'm glad you [56:27] really fascinating stuff. By the way. This is I'm glad you [56:27] really fascinating stuff. By the way. This is I'm glad you think so. I mean, it is because, [56:28] the way. This is I'm glad you think so. I mean, it is because, [56:29] the way. This is I'm glad you think so. I mean, it is because, you know, it's like I, I, I [56:30] think so. I mean, it is because, you know, it's like I, I, I [56:30] think so. I mean, it is because, you know, it's like I, I, I want to be like, you know, I [56:32] you know, it's like I, I, I want to be like, you know, I [56:32] you know, it's like I, I, I want to be like, you know, I speak openly like, I get it's [56:33] want to be like, you know, I speak openly like, I get it's [56:34] want to be like, you know, I speak openly like, I get it's such a bad reputation, you know, [56:35] speak openly like, I get it's such a bad reputation, you know, [56:35] speak openly like, I get it's such a bad reputation, you know, and and it's like, yeah, yeah. [56:38] such a bad reputation, you know, and and it's like, yeah, yeah. [56:38] such a bad reputation, you know, and and it's like, yeah, yeah. It's like and it's like I [56:39] and and it's like, yeah, yeah. It's like and it's like I [56:39] and and it's like, yeah, yeah. It's like and it's like I walked in this building. [56:40] It's like and it's like I walked in this building. [56:40] It's like and it's like I walked in this building. Everyone thought, like I had [56:41] walked in this building. Everyone thought, like I had [56:41] walked in this building. Everyone thought, like I had devil horns. And, you know, you [56:42] Everyone thought, like I had devil horns. And, you know, you [56:42] Everyone thought, like I had devil horns. And, you know, you know, all I want is public [56:44] devil horns. And, you know, you know, all I want is public [56:44] devil horns. And, you know, you know, all I want is public safety. That works. That's it. [56:46] know, all I want is public safety. That works. That's it. [56:46] know, all I want is public safety. That works. That's it. Like, I want my constituents [56:47] safety. That works. That's it. Like, I want my constituents [56:47] safety. That works. That's it. Like, I want my constituents when they call that the [56:50] Like, I want my constituents when they call that the [56:50] Like, I want my constituents when they call that the appropriate. Like we can debate [56:51] when they call that the appropriate. Like we can debate [56:51] when they call that the appropriate. Like we can debate the appropriate that the [56:52] appropriate. Like we can debate the appropriate that the [56:53] appropriate. Like we can debate the appropriate that the appropriate person gets to [56:54] the appropriate that the appropriate person gets to [56:54] the appropriate that the appropriate person gets to their door or handles their [56:55] appropriate person gets to their door or handles their [56:55] appropriate person gets to their door or handles their issue. Right. And and that's [56:59] their door or handles their issue. Right. And and that's [57:00] their door or handles their issue. Right. And and that's going to look different for [57:00] issue. Right. And and that's going to look different for [57:00] issue. Right. And and that's going to look different for different people. I get that. [57:02] going to look different for different people. I get that. [57:02] going to look different for different people. I get that. But and I also want I want a [57:04] different people. I get that. But and I also want I want a [57:04] different people. I get that. But and I also want I want a government that works and I [57:05] But and I also want I want a government that works and I [57:05] But and I also want I want a government that works and I want to do it as efficiently as [57:07] government that works and I want to do it as efficiently as [57:07] government that works and I want to do it as efficiently as possible. And I want people to [57:08] want to do it as efficiently as possible. And I want people to [57:08] want to do it as efficiently as possible. And I want people to feel respected in this city. [57:09] possible. And I want people to feel respected in this city. [57:09] possible. And I want people to feel respected in this city. Right. As a as a union [57:11] feel respected in this city. Right. As a as a union [57:11] feel respected in this city. Right. As a as a union organizer for many years, like [57:12] Right. As a as a union organizer for many years, like [57:12] Right. As a as a union organizer for many years, like making sure people are valued [57:13] organizer for many years, like making sure people are valued [57:13] organizer for many years, like making sure people are valued is important. But, you know, [57:16] making sure people are valued is important. But, you know, [57:16] making sure people are valued is important. But, you know, and democracy is difficult. But [57:17] is important. But, you know, and democracy is difficult. But [57:17] is important. But, you know, and democracy is difficult. But so when I'm, I'm really I'm [57:19] and democracy is difficult. But so when I'm, I'm really I'm [57:19] and democracy is difficult. But so when I'm, I'm really I'm getting excited about this is [57:20] so when I'm, I'm really I'm getting excited about this is [57:20] so when I'm, I'm really I'm getting excited about this is because it's at least we're [57:23] getting excited about this is because it's at least we're [57:23] getting excited about this is because it's at least we're having the conversation. I feel [57:24] because it's at least we're having the conversation. I feel [57:24] because it's at least we're having the conversation. I feel like, you know, I've been in [57:25] having the conversation. I feel like, you know, I've been in [57:25] having the conversation. I feel like, you know, I've been in the city, I've been in the city [57:27] like, you know, I've been in the city, I've been in the city [57:27] like, you know, I've been in the city, I've been in the city for 42 years now, and we're [57:29] the city, I've been in the city for 42 years now, and we're [57:29] the city, I've been in the city for 42 years now, and we're having like very robust [57:31] for 42 years now, and we're having like very robust [57:31] for 42 years now, and we're having like very robust conversations about what public [57:32] having like very robust conversations about what public [57:32] having like very robust conversations about what public safety should look like. Right. [57:34] conversations about what public safety should look like. Right. [57:34] conversations about what public safety should look like. Right. And the world has changed. You [57:36] safety should look like. Right. And the world has changed. You [57:36] safety should look like. Right. And the world has changed. You know, people are being pushed [57:37] And the world has changed. You know, people are being pushed [57:37] And the world has changed. You know, people are being pushed out into the streets because [57:39] know, people are being pushed out into the streets because [57:39] know, people are being pushed out into the streets because the cost of living is too damn [57:41] out into the streets because the cost of living is too damn [57:41] out into the streets because the cost of living is too damn expensive. Wages are too damn [57:43] the cost of living is too damn expensive. Wages are too damn [57:43] the cost of living is too damn expensive. Wages are too damn low. You know, there's our our [57:46] expensive. Wages are too damn low. You know, there's our our [57:46] expensive. Wages are too damn low. You know, there's our our our safety net of this society [57:47] low. You know, there's our our our safety net of this society [57:47] low. You know, there's our our our safety net of this society is like crumbling. There's not [57:49] our safety net of this society is like crumbling. There's not [57:49] our safety net of this society is like crumbling. There's not mental health, drug addiction. [57:50] is like crumbling. There's not mental health, drug addiction. [57:50] is like crumbling. There's not mental health, drug addiction. So like we have to adjust and [57:52] mental health, drug addiction. So like we have to adjust and [57:52] mental health, drug addiction. So like we have to adjust and we just we're behind the ball [57:54] So like we have to adjust and we just we're behind the ball [57:54] So like we have to adjust and we just we're behind the ball right now. I feel like our [57:55] we just we're behind the ball right now. I feel like our [57:55] we just we're behind the ball right now. I feel like our system of public safety is like, [57:58] right now. I feel like our system of public safety is like, [57:58] right now. I feel like our system of public safety is like, I don't know, 30 years old, you [58:00] system of public safety is like, I don't know, 30 years old, you [58:00] system of public safety is like, I don't know, 30 years old, you know? So we gotta, we gotta we [58:02] I don't know, 30 years old, you know? So we gotta, we gotta we [58:02] I don't know, 30 years old, you know? So we gotta, we gotta we gotta evolve, you know, so but [58:03] know? So we gotta, we gotta we gotta evolve, you know, so but [58:03] know? So we gotta, we gotta we gotta evolve, you know, so but this is a big piece of it, [58:05] gotta evolve, you know, so but this is a big piece of it, [58:05] gotta evolve, you know, so but this is a big piece of it, making sure that our response [58:07] this is a big piece of it, making sure that our response [58:07] this is a big piece of it, making sure that our response times are quick, that they're [58:08] making sure that our response times are quick, that they're [58:08] making sure that our response times are quick, that they're doing the job they're supposed [58:09] times are quick, that they're doing the job they're supposed [58:09] times are quick, that they're doing the job they're supposed that we're adjusting to the [58:11] doing the job they're supposed that we're adjusting to the [58:11] doing the job they're supposed that we're adjusting to the times I think is just a [58:13] that we're adjusting to the times I think is just a [58:13] that we're adjusting to the times I think is just a wonderful policy conversation [58:15] times I think is just a wonderful policy conversation [58:15] times I think is just a wonderful policy conversation to be out in the open. And [58:17] wonderful policy conversation to be out in the open. And [58:17] wonderful policy conversation to be out in the open. And we're going to be requesting [58:19] to be out in the open. And we're going to be requesting [58:19] to be out in the open. And we're going to be requesting that a new plan be be put into [58:22] we're going to be requesting that a new plan be be put into [58:22] we're going to be requesting that a new plan be be put into the mayor's budget. Council [58:24] that a new plan be be put into the mayor's budget. Council [58:24] that a new plan be be put into the mayor's budget. Council member, any additional [58:25] the mayor's budget. Council member, any additional [58:25] the mayor's budget. Council member, any additional questions? Yeah. Thanks very [58:27] member, any additional questions? Yeah. Thanks very [58:27] member, any additional questions? Yeah. Thanks very much. My my sense. And tell me [58:29] questions? Yeah. Thanks very much. My my sense. And tell me [58:29] questions? Yeah. Thanks very much. My my sense. And tell me if this is if this is wrong or [58:31] much. My my sense. And tell me if this is if this is wrong or [58:31] much. My my sense. And tell me if this is if this is wrong or if this is way off. My sense [58:33] if this is if this is wrong or if this is way off. My sense [58:33] if this is if this is wrong or if this is way off. My sense with the patrol plan is it's [58:34] if this is way off. My sense with the patrol plan is it's [58:34] if this is way off. My sense with the patrol plan is it's really a management tool to [58:36] with the patrol plan is it's really a management tool to [58:36] with the patrol plan is it's really a management tool to tell us with what we have today, [58:37] really a management tool to tell us with what we have today, [58:37] really a management tool to tell us with what we have today, our numbers of calls, our [58:39] tell us with what we have today, our numbers of calls, our [58:39] tell us with what we have today, our numbers of calls, our numbers of folks available, our [58:40] our numbers of calls, our numbers of folks available, our [58:40] our numbers of calls, our numbers of folks available, our number of cars dispatched as we [58:42] numbers of folks available, our number of cars dispatched as we [58:42] numbers of folks available, our number of cars dispatched as we are set up today. This is sort [58:45] number of cars dispatched as we are set up today. This is sort [58:45] number of cars dispatched as we are set up today. This is sort of how we manage those patrol [58:47] are set up today. This is sort of how we manage those patrol [58:47] are set up today. This is sort of how we manage those patrol cars out there. And we go from [58:51] of how we manage those patrol cars out there. And we go from [58:51] of how we manage those patrol cars out there. And we go from 730 to 747. 40 to 730. Just to [58:53] cars out there. And we go from 730 to 747. 40 to 730. Just to [58:53] cars out there. And we go from 730 to 747. 40 to 730. Just to respond to the reality, just to [58:54] 730 to 747. 40 to 730. Just to respond to the reality, just to [58:54] 730 to 747. 40 to 730. Just to respond to the reality, just to record the reality that we're [58:57] respond to the reality, just to record the reality that we're [58:57] respond to the reality, just to record the reality that we're chasing radio calls and have [58:59] record the reality that we're chasing radio calls and have [58:59] record the reality that we're chasing radio calls and have less time for in in field [59:01] chasing radio calls and have less time for in in field [59:01] chasing radio calls and have less time for in in field proactive. My sense, which is [59:04] less time for in in field proactive. My sense, which is [59:04] less time for in in field proactive. My sense, which is fine, I get it. My sense of the [59:08] proactive. My sense, which is fine, I get it. My sense of the [59:08] proactive. My sense, which is fine, I get it. My sense of the the the basic car plan and [59:11] fine, I get it. My sense of the the the basic car plan and [59:11] fine, I get it. My sense of the the the basic car plan and study is to say, putting the [59:14] the the basic car plan and study is to say, putting the [59:14] the the basic car plan and study is to say, putting the realities of the world aside. [59:16] study is to say, putting the realities of the world aside. [59:16] study is to say, putting the realities of the world aside. What would be ideal for us? [59:18] realities of the world aside. What would be ideal for us? [59:18] realities of the world aside. What would be ideal for us? What would be the ideal [59:20] What would be ideal for us? What would be the ideal [59:20] What would be ideal for us? What would be the ideal geography for a basic car? What [59:21] What would be the ideal geography for a basic car? What [59:22] What would be the ideal geography for a basic car? What would be the ideal dispersement [59:24] geography for a basic car? What would be the ideal dispersement [59:24] geography for a basic car? What would be the ideal dispersement of of, you know, senior lead [59:27] would be the ideal dispersement of of, you know, senior lead [59:27] would be the ideal dispersement of of, you know, senior lead officers and basic cars across [59:30] of of, you know, senior lead officers and basic cars across [59:30] of of, you know, senior lead officers and basic cars across the city? And so it could lead. [59:33] officers and basic cars across the city? And so it could lead. [59:33] officers and basic cars across the city? And so it could lead. I mean, I'm all for funding a [59:34] the city? And so it could lead. I mean, I'm all for funding a [59:35] the city? And so it could lead. I mean, I'm all for funding a study and and and figuring out [59:36] I mean, I'm all for funding a study and and and figuring out [59:36] I mean, I'm all for funding a study and and and figuring out what the realities are and what [59:37] study and and and figuring out what the realities are and what [59:38] study and and and figuring out what the realities are and what the best practices would be, [59:39] what the realities are and what the best practices would be, [59:39] what the realities are and what the best practices would be, but it will, in fact, probably [59:41] the best practices would be, but it will, in fact, probably [59:41] the best practices would be, but it will, in fact, probably change the Dispersement and [59:42] but it will, in fact, probably change the Dispersement and [59:42] but it will, in fact, probably change the Dispersement and numbers of SLOs and basic cars [59:44] change the Dispersement and numbers of SLOs and basic cars [59:44] change the Dispersement and numbers of SLOs and basic cars in the city of LA. Absolutely. [59:47] numbers of SLOs and basic cars in the city of LA. Absolutely. [59:47] numbers of SLOs and basic cars in the city of LA. Absolutely. I believe when matrix did the [59:49] in the city of LA. Absolutely. I believe when matrix did the [59:49] in the city of LA. Absolutely. I believe when matrix did the study, there were some [59:51] I believe when matrix did the study, there were some [59:51] I believe when matrix did the study, there were some recommendations in there for [59:52] study, there were some recommendations in there for [59:52] study, there were some recommendations in there for some areas, and it included [59:55] recommendations in there for some areas, and it included [59:55] recommendations in there for some areas, and it included redrawing additional cars to [59:58] some areas, and it included redrawing additional cars to [59:58] some areas, and it included redrawing additional cars to certain areas, additional [1:00:00] redrawing additional cars to certain areas, additional [1:00:00] redrawing additional cars to certain areas, additional senior lead officers. There [1:00:01] certain areas, additional senior lead officers. There [1:00:02] certain areas, additional senior lead officers. There were some recommendations in [1:00:04] senior lead officers. There were some recommendations in [1:00:04] senior lead officers. There were some recommendations in there, but it would require [1:00:06] were some recommendations in there, but it would require [1:00:06] were some recommendations in there, but it would require more officers. Well, that's [1:00:08] there, but it would require more officers. Well, that's [1:00:08] there, but it would require more officers. Well, that's what I was going to get to. So [1:00:10] more officers. Well, that's what I was going to get to. So [1:00:10] more officers. Well, that's what I was going to get to. So when you do a study like that, [1:00:11] what I was going to get to. So when you do a study like that, [1:00:11] what I was going to get to. So when you do a study like that, rather than what we're doing [1:00:13] when you do a study like that, rather than what we're doing [1:00:13] when you do a study like that, rather than what we're doing with our patrol plan, where we [1:00:14] rather than what we're doing with our patrol plan, where we [1:00:14] rather than what we're doing with our patrol plan, where we have to know and the next DPO, [1:00:16] with our patrol plan, where we have to know and the next DPO, [1:00:16] with our patrol plan, where we have to know and the next DPO, where is everybody going to be? [1:00:18] have to know and the next DPO, where is everybody going to be? [1:00:18] have to know and the next DPO, where is everybody going to be? Yeah. When we do a study, there [1:00:21] where is everybody going to be? Yeah. When we do a study, there [1:00:21] where is everybody going to be? Yeah. When we do a study, there are certain there are certain [1:00:23] Yeah. When we do a study, there are certain there are certain [1:00:23] Yeah. When we do a study, there are certain there are certain things that clearly have to [1:00:24] are certain there are certain things that clearly have to [1:00:25] are certain there are certain things that clearly have to control what's our call load? [1:00:26] things that clearly have to control what's our call load? [1:00:26] things that clearly have to control what's our call load? What is the geography of the [1:00:28] control what's our call load? What is the geography of the [1:00:28] control what's our call load? What is the geography of the city? What are the. Those are [1:00:31] What is the geography of the city? What are the. Those are [1:00:31] What is the geography of the city? What are the. Those are the big ones, obviously. Will [1:00:34] city? What are the. Those are the big ones, obviously. Will [1:00:34] city? What are the. Those are the big ones, obviously. Will it also tell us that listen, [1:00:36] the big ones, obviously. Will it also tell us that listen, [1:00:36] the big ones, obviously. Will it also tell us that listen, for us to have an ideal basic [1:00:38] it also tell us that listen, for us to have an ideal basic [1:00:38] it also tell us that listen, for us to have an ideal basic car plan, we need X number of [1:00:40] for us to have an ideal basic car plan, we need X number of [1:00:40] for us to have an ideal basic car plan, we need X number of officers or will we be pushing [1:00:42] car plan, we need X number of officers or will we be pushing [1:00:42] car plan, we need X number of officers or will we be pushing down as the old, you know, [1:00:44] officers or will we be pushing down as the old, you know, [1:00:44] officers or will we be pushing down as the old, you know, Bonin plan proposed pushing [1:00:46] down as the old, you know, Bonin plan proposed pushing [1:00:46] down as the old, you know, Bonin plan proposed pushing down from central management [1:00:47] Bonin plan proposed pushing down from central management [1:00:48] Bonin plan proposed pushing down from central management out to the field to create more [1:00:50] down from central management out to the field to create more [1:00:50] down from central management out to the field to create more basic cars by having fewer [1:00:52] out to the field to create more basic cars by having fewer [1:00:52] out to the field to create more basic cars by having fewer other specialized units or [1:00:54] basic cars by having fewer other specialized units or [1:00:54] basic cars by having fewer other specialized units or management positions, because [1:00:57] other specialized units or management positions, because [1:00:57] other specialized units or management positions, because it's it's not a I'm not taking [1:00:59] management positions, because it's it's not a I'm not taking [1:00:59] management positions, because it's it's not a I'm not taking a cheap shot at management as I [1:01:02] it's it's not a I'm not taking a cheap shot at management as I [1:01:02] it's it's not a I'm not taking a cheap shot at management as I got all these great managers [1:01:03] a cheap shot at management as I got all these great managers [1:01:03] a cheap shot at management as I got all these great managers sitting here. It's it. One of [1:01:06] got all these great managers sitting here. It's it. One of [1:01:06] got all these great managers sitting here. It's it. One of the things it could do is it [1:01:07] sitting here. It's it. One of the things it could do is it [1:01:07] sitting here. It's it. One of the things it could do is it could pull away from those [1:01:08] the things it could do is it could pull away from those [1:01:08] the things it could do is it could pull away from those other cars and those other [1:01:09] could pull away from those other cars and those other [1:01:10] could pull away from those other cars and those other details, whether it's traffic [1:01:11] other cars and those other details, whether it's traffic [1:01:11] other cars and those other details, whether it's traffic or gangs or other things. I [1:01:14] details, whether it's traffic or gangs or other things. I [1:01:14] details, whether it's traffic or gangs or other things. I think that there's a lot over [1:01:17] or gangs or other things. I think that there's a lot over [1:01:17] or gangs or other things. I think that there's a lot over the past decade or two that has [1:01:19] think that there's a lot over the past decade or two that has [1:01:19] think that there's a lot over the past decade or two that has not been considered when it [1:01:23] the past decade or two that has not been considered when it [1:01:23] the past decade or two that has not been considered when it relates to response time and [1:01:25] not been considered when it relates to response time and [1:01:25] not been considered when it relates to response time and basic cars, and that's the type [1:01:28] relates to response time and basic cars, and that's the type [1:01:28] relates to response time and basic cars, and that's the type of calls that our officers are [1:01:30] basic cars, and that's the type of calls that our officers are [1:01:30] basic cars, and that's the type of calls that our officers are spending their most time on. [1:01:31] of calls that our officers are spending their most time on. [1:01:31] of calls that our officers are spending their most time on. Yeah, and it's mental illness [1:01:33] spending their most time on. Yeah, and it's mental illness [1:01:33] spending their most time on. Yeah, and it's mental illness and homelessness and booking [1:01:36] Yeah, and it's mental illness and homelessness and booking [1:01:36] Yeah, and it's mental illness and homelessness and booking property. A lot of their time [1:01:39] and homelessness and booking property. A lot of their time [1:01:39] and homelessness and booking property. A lot of their time is spent on trying to weave and [1:01:44] property. A lot of their time is spent on trying to weave and [1:01:44] property. A lot of their time is spent on trying to weave and work through some broken [1:01:45] is spent on trying to weave and work through some broken [1:01:46] is spent on trying to weave and work through some broken systems. As police officers. [1:01:49] work through some broken systems. As police officers. [1:01:49] work through some broken systems. As police officers. Sometimes officers may [1:01:51] systems. As police officers. Sometimes officers may [1:01:51] systems. As police officers. Sometimes officers may transport one person to a [1:01:52] Sometimes officers may transport one person to a [1:01:52] Sometimes officers may transport one person to a hospital and they're there for [1:01:54] transport one person to a hospital and they're there for [1:01:54] transport one person to a hospital and they're there for 6 or 7 hours. That's 1 or 2 men, [1:01:57] hospital and they're there for 6 or 7 hours. That's 1 or 2 men, [1:01:57] hospital and they're there for 6 or 7 hours. That's 1 or 2 men, black and white, out from [1:01:59] 6 or 7 hours. That's 1 or 2 men, black and white, out from [1:02:00] 6 or 7 hours. That's 1 or 2 men, black and white, out from handling radio calls because [1:02:01] black and white, out from handling radio calls because [1:02:01] black and white, out from handling radio calls because they're sitting at a hospital [1:02:03] handling radio calls because they're sitting at a hospital [1:02:03] handling radio calls because they're sitting at a hospital because there's no other [1:02:06] they're sitting at a hospital because there's no other [1:02:06] they're sitting at a hospital because there's no other non-police. So there's a lot of [1:02:08] because there's no other non-police. So there's a lot of [1:02:08] because there's no other non-police. So there's a lot of factors that I think a very [1:02:11] non-police. So there's a lot of factors that I think a very [1:02:11] non-police. So there's a lot of factors that I think a very comprehensive study could, [1:02:13] factors that I think a very comprehensive study could, [1:02:13] factors that I think a very comprehensive study could, could look at our new way of [1:02:15] comprehensive study could, could look at our new way of [1:02:15] comprehensive study could, could look at our new way of policing and the 30 other [1:02:18] could look at our new way of policing and the 30 other [1:02:18] could look at our new way of policing and the 30 other things that have been added on [1:02:20] policing and the 30 other things that have been added on [1:02:20] policing and the 30 other things that have been added on to the police department since [1:02:21] things that have been added on to the police department since [1:02:21] things that have been added on to the police department since that study was done. Yeah. And [1:02:23] to the police department since that study was done. Yeah. And [1:02:23] to the police department since that study was done. Yeah. And I'd venture to say a whole [1:02:25] that study was done. Yeah. And I'd venture to say a whole [1:02:25] that study was done. Yeah. And I'd venture to say a whole different report would come out. [1:02:26] I'd venture to say a whole different report would come out. [1:02:27] I'd venture to say a whole different report would come out. That has nothing to do with [1:02:31] different report would come out. That has nothing to do with [1:02:31] different report would come out. That has nothing to do with terrain or basic cars or how [1:02:33] That has nothing to do with terrain or basic cars or how [1:02:33] That has nothing to do with terrain or basic cars or how many miles, but more to do with [1:02:35] terrain or basic cars or how many miles, but more to do with [1:02:35] terrain or basic cars or how many miles, but more to do with public health and systems and [1:02:37] many miles, but more to do with public health and systems and [1:02:37] many miles, but more to do with public health and systems and what police shouldn't be doing. [1:02:39] public health and systems and what police shouldn't be doing. [1:02:39] public health and systems and what police shouldn't be doing. So that's excellent. Excellent [1:02:41] what police shouldn't be doing. So that's excellent. Excellent [1:02:41] what police shouldn't be doing. So that's excellent. Excellent answer. And that's probably the [1:02:42] So that's excellent. Excellent answer. And that's probably the [1:02:42] So that's excellent. Excellent answer. And that's probably the reality is that the world has [1:02:43] answer. And that's probably the reality is that the world has [1:02:43] answer. And that's probably the reality is that the world has changed from 1988 to today. And [1:02:46] reality is that the world has changed from 1988 to today. And [1:02:46] reality is that the world has changed from 1988 to today. And the things that we don't need [1:02:48] changed from 1988 to today. And the things that we don't need [1:02:48] changed from 1988 to today. And the things that we don't need police officers doing, as my [1:02:50] the things that we don't need police officers doing, as my [1:02:50] the things that we don't need police officers doing, as my colleague Martinez said, [1:02:51] police officers doing, as my colleague Martinez said, [1:02:51] police officers doing, as my colleague Martinez said, probably makes a lot of sense. [1:02:53] colleague Martinez said, probably makes a lot of sense. [1:02:53] colleague Martinez said, probably makes a lot of sense. That goes into one of the [1:02:54] probably makes a lot of sense. That goes into one of the [1:02:54] probably makes a lot of sense. That goes into one of the factors. And there's also some [1:02:55] That goes into one of the factors. And there's also some [1:02:55] That goes into one of the factors. And there's also some some message in some comment in [1:02:57] factors. And there's also some some message in some comment in [1:02:57] factors. And there's also some some message in some comment in the report that we read saying [1:02:59] some message in some comment in the report that we read saying [1:02:59] some message in some comment in the report that we read saying that there are some [1:03:01] the report that we read saying that there are some [1:03:01] the report that we read saying that there are some inaccuracies or some challenges [1:03:03] that there are some inaccuracies or some challenges [1:03:03] that there are some inaccuracies or some challenges with multiple car, car, more [1:03:05] inaccuracies or some challenges with multiple car, car, more [1:03:06] inaccuracies or some challenges with multiple car, car, more than one car heading to the [1:03:07] with multiple car, car, more than one car heading to the [1:03:07] with multiple car, car, more than one car heading to the same call, or some inaccuracies [1:03:09] than one car heading to the same call, or some inaccuracies [1:03:09] than one car heading to the same call, or some inaccuracies on the code six designation. So [1:03:11] same call, or some inaccuracies on the code six designation. So [1:03:11] same call, or some inaccuracies on the code six designation. So maybe there's also some [1:03:12] on the code six designation. So maybe there's also some [1:03:12] on the code six designation. So maybe there's also some management tools and reforms [1:03:14] maybe there's also some management tools and reforms [1:03:14] maybe there's also some management tools and reforms that come out of such a report. [1:03:16] management tools and reforms that come out of such a report. [1:03:16] management tools and reforms that come out of such a report. Yes. When we looked at this, [1:03:19] that come out of such a report. Yes. When we looked at this, [1:03:19] that come out of such a report. Yes. When we looked at this, one of the things we found is [1:03:21] Yes. When we looked at this, one of the things we found is [1:03:21] Yes. When we looked at this, one of the things we found is there were some technical [1:03:24] one of the things we found is there were some technical [1:03:24] one of the things we found is there were some technical difficulties with how we [1:03:26] there were some technical difficulties with how we [1:03:26] there were some technical difficulties with how we capture officer's time. If [1:03:28] difficulties with how we capture officer's time. If [1:03:28] difficulties with how we capture officer's time. If there's a help call that goes [1:03:29] capture officer's time. If there's a help call that goes [1:03:29] capture officer's time. If there's a help call that goes out, you might have eight [1:03:31] there's a help call that goes out, you might have eight [1:03:31] there's a help call that goes out, you might have eight officers that respond to that [1:03:32] out, you might have eight officers that respond to that [1:03:32] out, you might have eight officers that respond to that help call. And that could [1:03:33] officers that respond to that help call. And that could [1:03:33] officers that respond to that help call. And that could change the mathematical [1:03:36] help call. And that could change the mathematical [1:03:36] help call. And that could change the mathematical algorithm for for time and how [1:03:37] change the mathematical algorithm for for time and how [1:03:37] change the mathematical algorithm for for time and how many officers were spent there. [1:03:39] algorithm for for time and how many officers were spent there. [1:03:39] algorithm for for time and how many officers were spent there. Or if officers go out to the [1:03:41] many officers were spent there. Or if officers go out to the [1:03:41] many officers were spent there. Or if officers go out to the station, we don't know what [1:03:42] Or if officers go out to the station, we don't know what [1:03:42] Or if officers go out to the station, we don't know what they're out to the station [1:03:44] station, we don't know what they're out to the station [1:03:44] station, we don't know what they're out to the station doing. Are they writing a [1:03:45] they're out to the station doing. Are they writing a [1:03:45] they're out to the station doing. Are they writing a report? Are they booking [1:03:46] doing. Are they writing a report? Are they booking [1:03:47] doing. Are they writing a report? Are they booking property? So looking at our [1:03:48] report? Are they booking property? So looking at our [1:03:48] report? Are they booking property? So looking at our computer, our computerized [1:03:50] property? So looking at our computer, our computerized [1:03:50] property? So looking at our computer, our computerized system and trying to flush [1:03:52] computer, our computerized system and trying to flush [1:03:52] computer, our computerized system and trying to flush those out more so we can really [1:03:54] system and trying to flush those out more so we can really [1:03:54] system and trying to flush those out more so we can really see where their time is being [1:03:55] those out more so we can really see where their time is being [1:03:55] those out more so we can really see where their time is being spent and should that be [1:03:57] see where their time is being spent and should that be [1:03:57] see where their time is being spent and should that be considered into the [1:03:59] spent and should that be considered into the [1:03:59] spent and should that be considered into the mathematical algorithm, when [1:04:00] considered into the mathematical algorithm, when [1:04:00] considered into the mathematical algorithm, when we're looking at the patrol [1:04:02] mathematical algorithm, when we're looking at the patrol [1:04:02] mathematical algorithm, when we're looking at the patrol plan. Excellent. Thank you. And [1:04:04] we're looking at the patrol plan. Excellent. Thank you. And [1:04:04] we're looking at the patrol plan. Excellent. Thank you. And that also. So we were down [1:04:07] plan. Excellent. Thank you. And that also. So we were down [1:04:07] plan. Excellent. Thank you. And that also. So we were down heavily with sergeants. And [1:04:09] that also. So we were down heavily with sergeants. And [1:04:09] that also. So we were down heavily with sergeants. And recently we've promoted [1:04:11] heavily with sergeants. And recently we've promoted [1:04:11] heavily with sergeants. And recently we've promoted sergeants. And that's where our [1:04:12] recently we've promoted sergeants. And that's where our [1:04:12] recently we've promoted sergeants. And that's where our field supervisors can help [1:04:14] sergeants. And that's where our field supervisors can help [1:04:14] sergeants. And that's where our field supervisors can help ensuring that our officers are [1:04:16] field supervisors can help ensuring that our officers are [1:04:16] field supervisors can help ensuring that our officers are clearing from calls and having [1:04:18] ensuring that our officers are clearing from calls and having [1:04:18] ensuring that our officers are clearing from calls and having that field leadership oversight. [1:04:21] clearing from calls and having that field leadership oversight. [1:04:21] clearing from calls and having that field leadership oversight. Yeah. Time management. That [1:04:23] that field leadership oversight. Yeah. Time management. That [1:04:23] that field leadership oversight. Yeah. Time management. That makes sense. Thank you. We're [1:04:25] Yeah. Time management. That makes sense. Thank you. We're [1:04:25] Yeah. Time management. That makes sense. Thank you. We're also have not made detectives [1:04:26] makes sense. Thank you. We're also have not made detectives [1:04:26] makes sense. Thank you. We're also have not made detectives in over a year and a half. And [1:04:28] also have not made detectives in over a year and a half. And [1:04:28] also have not made detectives in over a year and a half. And you know, we can't talk about [1:04:29] in over a year and a half. And you know, we can't talk about [1:04:29] in over a year and a half. And you know, we can't talk about crime and response time without [1:04:31] you know, we can't talk about crime and response time without [1:04:31] you know, we can't talk about crime and response time without talking about victims. And [1:04:33] crime and response time without talking about victims. And [1:04:33] crime and response time without talking about victims. And those are people who've been [1:04:35] talking about victims. And those are people who've been [1:04:35] talking about victims. And those are people who've been victimized who may not be [1:04:35] those are people who've been victimized who may not be [1:04:35] those are people who've been victimized who may not be getting a phone call because we [1:04:38] victimized who may not be getting a phone call because we [1:04:38] victimized who may not be getting a phone call because we have 2 to 3 detectives working [1:04:40] getting a phone call because we have 2 to 3 detectives working [1:04:40] getting a phone call because we have 2 to 3 detectives working a table. And that's difficult [1:04:44] have 2 to 3 detectives working a table. And that's difficult [1:04:44] have 2 to 3 detectives working a table. And that's difficult as it relates to building trust [1:04:46] a table. And that's difficult as it relates to building trust [1:04:46] a table. And that's difficult as it relates to building trust and victims feeling seen and [1:04:48] as it relates to building trust and victims feeling seen and [1:04:48] as it relates to building trust and victims feeling seen and heard in the work that we do. [1:04:49] and victims feeling seen and heard in the work that we do. [1:04:49] and victims feeling seen and heard in the work that we do. And I've heard Detective List [1:04:51] heard in the work that we do. And I've heard Detective List [1:04:51] heard in the work that we do. And I've heard Detective List right now, and we're looking to [1:04:52] And I've heard Detective List right now, and we're looking to [1:04:52] And I've heard Detective List right now, and we're looking to pull some people. That's always [1:04:55] right now, and we're looking to pull some people. That's always [1:04:55] right now, and we're looking to pull some people. That's always a challenge. You know, when [1:04:56] pull some people. That's always a challenge. You know, when [1:04:56] pull some people. That's always a challenge. You know, when when good people go from one [1:04:58] a challenge. You know, when when good people go from one [1:04:58] a challenge. You know, when when good people go from one position to another position, I [1:04:59] when good people go from one position to another position, I [1:04:59] when good people go from one position to another position, I mean, good for them. But it it [1:05:01] position to another position, I mean, good for them. But it it [1:05:01] position to another position, I mean, good for them. But it it impacts every every time [1:05:02] mean, good for them. But it it impacts every every time [1:05:02] mean, good for them. But it it impacts every every time someone moves. I was just going [1:05:06] impacts every every time someone moves. I was just going [1:05:06] impacts every every time someone moves. I was just going to say have a significant [1:05:07] someone moves. I was just going to say have a significant [1:05:07] someone moves. I was just going to say have a significant number of officers loan to [1:05:08] to say have a significant number of officers loan to [1:05:08] to say have a significant number of officers loan to detectives. So once we make [1:05:09] number of officers loan to detectives. So once we make [1:05:09] number of officers loan to detectives. So once we make detectives we'll be able to [1:05:11] detectives. So once we make detectives we'll be able to [1:05:11] detectives. So once we make detectives we'll be able to flush those officers, make them [1:05:12] detectives we'll be able to flush those officers, make them [1:05:12] detectives we'll be able to flush those officers, make them detectives or put them back out [1:05:13] flush those officers, make them detectives or put them back out [1:05:13] flush those officers, make them detectives or put them back out on patrol. Oh good. Thank you. [1:05:15] detectives or put them back out on patrol. Oh good. Thank you. [1:05:15] detectives or put them back out on patrol. Oh good. Thank you. Thank you very much for the [1:05:17] on patrol. Oh good. Thank you. Thank you very much for the [1:05:17] on patrol. Oh good. Thank you. Thank you very much for the report. Well, thank you [1:05:18] Thank you very much for the report. Well, thank you [1:05:18] Thank you very much for the report. Well, thank you everyone. You know, our senior [1:05:19] report. Well, thank you everyone. You know, our senior [1:05:19] report. Well, thank you everyone. You know, our senior lead officers, I mean, just [1:05:21] everyone. You know, our senior lead officers, I mean, just [1:05:21] everyone. You know, our senior lead officers, I mean, just speaking from, you know, our [1:05:23] lead officers, I mean, just speaking from, you know, our [1:05:23] lead officers, I mean, just speaking from, you know, our the ones that we have in [1:05:24] speaking from, you know, our the ones that we have in [1:05:24] speaking from, you know, our the ones that we have in Council district 12, they do [1:05:26] the ones that we have in Council district 12, they do [1:05:26] the ones that we have in Council district 12, they do such an amazing job at [1:05:27] Council district 12, they do such an amazing job at [1:05:27] Council district 12, they do such an amazing job at community relations. You know, [1:05:29] such an amazing job at community relations. You know, [1:05:29] such an amazing job at community relations. You know, for. For their different [1:05:32] community relations. You know, for. For their different [1:05:32] community relations. You know, for. For their different divisions and of course, LAPD. [1:05:34] for. For their different divisions and of course, LAPD. [1:05:34] for. For their different divisions and of course, LAPD. I mean, I feel like I can tell [1:05:36] divisions and of course, LAPD. I mean, I feel like I can tell [1:05:36] divisions and of course, LAPD. I mean, I feel like I can tell you exactly where we need [1:05:37] I mean, I feel like I can tell you exactly where we need [1:05:37] I mean, I feel like I can tell you exactly where we need another basic car, but, you [1:05:38] you exactly where we need another basic car, but, you [1:05:38] you exactly where we need another basic car, but, you know, we're happy to request [1:05:41] another basic car, but, you know, we're happy to request [1:05:41] another basic car, but, you know, we're happy to request that this be put in the mayor's [1:05:43] know, we're happy to request that this be put in the mayor's [1:05:43] know, we're happy to request that this be put in the mayor's budget with the cows. So I [1:05:45] that this be put in the mayor's budget with the cows. So I [1:05:45] that this be put in the mayor's budget with the cows. So I appreciate the report and [1:05:47] budget with the cows. So I appreciate the report and [1:05:47] budget with the cows. So I appreciate the report and hopefully the expansion right [1:05:48] appreciate the report and hopefully the expansion right [1:05:48] appreciate the report and hopefully the expansion right of the UMC. As Councilmember [1:05:51] hopefully the expansion right of the UMC. As Councilmember [1:05:51] hopefully the expansion right of the UMC. As Councilmember Martinez says, the, you know, [1:05:53] of the UMC. As Councilmember Martinez says, the, you know, [1:05:53] of the UMC. As Councilmember Martinez says, the, you know, with the success and expansion [1:05:54] Martinez says, the, you know, with the success and expansion [1:05:54] Martinez says, the, you know, with the success and expansion of that program, hopefully we [1:05:56] with the success and expansion of that program, hopefully we [1:05:56] with the success and expansion of that program, hopefully we can see some other ways to try [1:05:58] of that program, hopefully we can see some other ways to try [1:05:58] of that program, hopefully we can see some other ways to try to factor that into our basic [1:06:01] can see some other ways to try to factor that into our basic [1:06:01] can see some other ways to try to factor that into our basic cars and our obviously, our [1:06:02] to factor that into our basic cars and our obviously, our [1:06:03] to factor that into our basic cars and our obviously, our patrol cars. So thank you, [1:06:04] cars and our obviously, our patrol cars. So thank you, [1:06:04] cars and our obviously, our patrol cars. So thank you, chief. Thank you, commander. [1:06:05] patrol cars. So thank you, chief. Thank you, commander. [1:06:05] patrol cars. So thank you, chief. Thank you, commander. Sergeant Ed, thank you. Okay. [1:06:09] chief. Thank you, commander. Sergeant Ed, thank you. Okay. [1:06:09] chief. Thank you, commander. Sergeant Ed, thank you. Okay. So I'd like to colleagues, I'd [1:06:11] Sergeant Ed, thank you. Okay. So I'd like to colleagues, I'd [1:06:11] Sergeant Ed, thank you. Okay. So I'd like to colleagues, I'd like to recommend that we note [1:06:12] So I'd like to colleagues, I'd like to recommend that we note [1:06:12] So I'd like to colleagues, I'd like to recommend that we note and file the report and request [1:06:14] like to recommend that we note and file the report and request [1:06:14] like to recommend that we note and file the report and request that the mayor and CEO to [1:06:16] and file the report and request that the mayor and CEO to [1:06:16] and file the report and request that the mayor and CEO to include funding for new basic [1:06:18] that the mayor and CEO to include funding for new basic [1:06:18] that the mayor and CEO to include funding for new basic car plan, request RFP in the [1:06:21] include funding for new basic car plan, request RFP in the [1:06:21] include funding for new basic car plan, request RFP in the mayor's 2627 proposed budget. [1:06:24] car plan, request RFP in the mayor's 2627 proposed budget. [1:06:24] car plan, request RFP in the mayor's 2627 proposed budget. With that, madam clerk, can you [1:06:25] mayor's 2627 proposed budget. With that, madam clerk, can you [1:06:26] mayor's 2627 proposed budget. With that, madam clerk, can you please call the roll? Council [1:06:27] With that, madam clerk, can you please call the roll? Council [1:06:27] With that, madam clerk, can you please call the roll? Council member Lee aye. Council member [1:06:29] please call the roll? Council member Lee aye. Council member [1:06:29] please call the roll? Council member Lee aye. Council member Price Price. Absent. Council [1:06:30] member Lee aye. Council member Price Price. Absent. Council [1:06:30] member Lee aye. Council member Price Price. Absent. Council member. Mcosker. Yes. Council [1:06:32] Price Price. Absent. Council member. Mcosker. Yes. Council [1:06:32] Price Price. Absent. Council member. Mcosker. Yes. Council member. Martinez. Yes. Council [1:06:34] member. Mcosker. Yes. Council member. Martinez. Yes. Council [1:06:34] member. Mcosker. Yes. Council member. Martinez. Yes. Council member. Park. Yes. Four eyes. [1:06:36] member. Martinez. Yes. Council member. Park. Yes. Four eyes. [1:06:36] member. Martinez. Yes. Council member. Park. Yes. Four eyes. This item will be noted and [1:06:38] member. Park. Yes. Four eyes. This item will be noted and [1:06:39] member. Park. Yes. Four eyes. This item will be noted and filed. All right. Thank you so [1:06:40] This item will be noted and filed. All right. Thank you so [1:06:40] This item will be noted and filed. All right. Thank you so much for joining us today. I [1:06:41] filed. All right. Thank you so much for joining us today. I [1:06:41] filed. All right. Thank you so much for joining us today. I think we need to go back real [1:06:43] much for joining us today. I think we need to go back real [1:06:43] much for joining us today. I think we need to go back real quickly to item number three. [1:06:45] think we need to go back real quickly to item number three. [1:06:45] think we need to go back real quickly to item number three. Madam Clerk, there was an [1:06:46] quickly to item number three. Madam Clerk, there was an [1:06:46] quickly to item number three. Madam Clerk, there was an amendment to that. Can you [1:06:47] Madam Clerk, there was an amendment to that. Can you [1:06:47] Madam Clerk, there was an amendment to that. Can you please read that into the [1:06:48] amendment to that. Can you please read that into the [1:06:48] amendment to that. Can you please read that into the record? The amendment would be [1:06:50] please read that into the record? The amendment would be [1:06:50] please read that into the record? The amendment would be to add the additional following [1:06:53] record? The amendment would be to add the additional following [1:06:53] record? The amendment would be to add the additional following instructions to instruct the [1:06:54] to add the additional following instructions to instruct the [1:06:54] to add the additional following instructions to instruct the fire Department and Department [1:06:55] instructions to instruct the fire Department and Department [1:06:55] instructions to instruct the fire Department and Department of Building and Safety, in [1:06:57] fire Department and Department of Building and Safety, in [1:06:57] fire Department and Department of Building and Safety, in consultation with the office of [1:06:58] of Building and Safety, in consultation with the office of [1:06:58] of Building and Safety, in consultation with the office of the City Attorney, to report on [1:07:00] consultation with the office of the City Attorney, to report on [1:07:00] consultation with the office of the City Attorney, to report on the process for determining and [1:07:02] the City Attorney, to report on the process for determining and [1:07:02] the City Attorney, to report on the process for determining and documenting that the materials [1:07:03] the process for determining and documenting that the materials [1:07:03] the process for determining and documenting that the materials identified for removal in these [1:07:05] documenting that the materials identified for removal in these [1:07:05] documenting that the materials identified for removal in these hillside very high fire [1:07:06] identified for removal in these hillside very high fire [1:07:07] identified for removal in these hillside very high fire severity zones do, in fact pose [1:07:09] hillside very high fire severity zones do, in fact pose [1:07:09] hillside very high fire severity zones do, in fact pose a fire hazard. If I can have a [1:07:11] severity zones do, in fact pose a fire hazard. If I can have a [1:07:11] severity zones do, in fact pose a fire hazard. If I can have a second for this second. And we [1:07:17] a fire hazard. If I can have a second for this second. And we [1:07:17] a fire hazard. If I can have a second for this second. And we will retake the vote for item [1:07:20] second for this second. And we will retake the vote for item [1:07:20] second for this second. And we will retake the vote for item three. Okay. Council member Lee. [1:07:22] will retake the vote for item three. Okay. Council member Lee. [1:07:22] will retake the vote for item three. Okay. Council member Lee. Aye. Council member price. [1:07:23] three. Okay. Council member Lee. Aye. Council member price. [1:07:24] three. Okay. Council member Lee. Aye. Council member price. Absent. Council member. Mcosker. [1:07:25] Aye. Council member price. Absent. Council member. Mcosker. [1:07:25] Aye. Council member price. Absent. Council member. Mcosker. Yes. Council member. Soto. [1:07:26] Absent. Council member. Mcosker. Yes. Council member. Soto. [1:07:26] Absent. Council member. Mcosker. Yes. Council member. Soto. Martinez. Yes. Council member. [1:07:28] Yes. Council member. Soto. Martinez. Yes. Council member. [1:07:28] Yes. Council member. Soto. Martinez. Yes. Council member. Park. Yes. Four eyes. This item [1:07:30] Martinez. Yes. Council member. Park. Yes. Four eyes. This item [1:07:30] Martinez. Yes. Council member. Park. Yes. Four eyes. This item is approved, as amended. All [1:07:31] Park. Yes. Four eyes. This item is approved, as amended. All [1:07:31] Park. Yes. Four eyes. This item is approved, as amended. All right, Madam Clerk, are there [1:07:33] is approved, as amended. All right, Madam Clerk, are there [1:07:33] is approved, as amended. All right, Madam Clerk, are there any other items to consider? [1:07:34] right, Madam Clerk, are there any other items to consider? [1:07:34] right, Madam Clerk, are there any other items to consider? The desk is clear. Then this [1:07:35] any other items to consider? The desk is clear. Then this [1:07:35] any other items to consider? The desk is clear. Then this meeting is adjourned. You said [1:07:38] The desk is clear. Then this meeting is adjourned. You said [1:07:38] The desk is clear. Then this meeting is adjourned. You said you knew where the car should.