[0:03] and I'd like to welcome [0:04] and I'd like to welcome [0:04] and I'd like to welcome everyone to the Transportation [0:07] and I'd like to welcome everyone to the Transportation [0:07] and I'd like to welcome everyone to the Transportation Committee and joint special [0:09] everyone to the Transportation Committee and joint special [0:09] everyone to the Transportation Committee and joint special meeting with the Public Works. [0:11] Committee and joint special meeting with the Public Works. [0:11] Committee and joint special meeting with the Public Works. I'm Councilwoman Heather chair, [0:14] meeting with the Public Works. I'm Councilwoman Heather chair, [0:14] meeting with the Public Works. I'm Councilwoman Heather chair, transportation, and I'm joined [0:15] I'm Councilwoman Heather chair, transportation, and I'm joined [0:15] I'm Councilwoman Heather chair, transportation, and I'm joined by council members Hernandez [0:18] transportation, and I'm joined by council members Hernandez [0:18] transportation, and I'm joined by council members Hernandez and Padilla. And Mr. Clark, can [0:21] by council members Hernandez and Padilla. And Mr. Clark, can [0:21] by council members Hernandez and Padilla. And Mr. Clark, can you please call the roll so [0:23] and Padilla. And Mr. Clark, can you please call the roll so [0:23] and Padilla. And Mr. Clark, can you please call the roll so that we can get started? Very [0:25] you please call the roll so that we can get started? Very [0:25] you please call the roll so that we can get started? Very good. Okay. For transportation [0:28] that we can get started? Very good. Okay. For transportation [0:28] that we can get started? Very good. Okay. For transportation committee, Council member hood [0:30] good. Okay. For transportation committee, Council member hood [0:30] good. Okay. For transportation committee, Council member hood here. Councilmember Park. [0:32] committee, Council member hood here. Councilmember Park. [0:32] committee, Council member hood here. Councilmember Park. Present. Okay. Council member. [0:35] here. Councilmember Park. Present. Okay. Council member. [0:35] here. Councilmember Park. Present. Okay. Council member. Hernandez. Present. Council [0:37] Present. Okay. Council member. Hernandez. Present. Council [0:37] Present. Okay. Council member. Hernandez. Present. Council member. Padilla. Present. And [0:39] Hernandez. Present. Council member. Padilla. Present. And [0:39] Hernandez. Present. Council member. Padilla. Present. And Council member. Nazarian. Okay. [0:42] member. Padilla. Present. And Council member. Nazarian. Okay. [0:42] member. Padilla. Present. And Council member. Nazarian. Okay. For Public Works Committee. [0:43] Council member. Nazarian. Okay. For Public Works Committee. [0:43] Council member. Nazarian. Okay. For Public Works Committee. Council member. Hernandez [0:45] For Public Works Committee. Council member. Hernandez [0:45] For Public Works Committee. Council member. Hernandez present. Council member. [0:47] Council member. Hernandez present. Council member. [0:47] Council member. Hernandez present. Council member. Padilla. President and council [0:49] present. Council member. Padilla. President and council [0:49] present. Council member. Padilla. President and council member. Hutt. Here. Very good. [0:52] Padilla. President and council member. Hutt. Here. Very good. [0:52] Padilla. President and council member. Hutt. Here. Very good. Thank you so much, Mr. Clerk. [0:54] member. Hutt. Here. Very good. Thank you so much, Mr. Clerk. [0:54] member. Hutt. Here. Very good. Thank you so much, Mr. Clerk. Today we have members. We have [0:57] Thank you so much, Mr. Clerk. Today we have members. We have [0:57] Thank you so much, Mr. Clerk. Today we have members. We have six items on the Transportation [1:00] Today we have members. We have six items on the Transportation [1:00] Today we have members. We have six items on the Transportation Committee agenda and three [1:02] six items on the Transportation Committee agenda and three [1:02] six items on the Transportation Committee agenda and three items before both committees. [1:04] Committee agenda and three items before both committees. [1:04] Committee agenda and three items before both committees. I'd also like to announce that [1:05] items before both committees. I'd also like to announce that [1:06] items before both committees. I'd also like to announce that we will be continuing item [1:07] I'd also like to announce that we will be continuing item [1:07] I'd also like to announce that we will be continuing item eight to a date to be [1:10] we will be continuing item eight to a date to be [1:10] we will be continuing item eight to a date to be determined. And before we get [1:12] eight to a date to be determined. And before we get [1:12] eight to a date to be determined. And before we get to the items, Madam Clerk, [1:13] determined. And before we get to the items, Madam Clerk, [1:13] determined. And before we get to the items, Madam Clerk, please read any amendments we [1:15] to the items, Madam Clerk, please read any amendments we [1:15] to the items, Madam Clerk, please read any amendments we have into the record. Yes, [1:17] please read any amendments we have into the record. Yes, [1:17] please read any amendments we have into the record. Yes, Madam Chair, we have several [1:18] have into the record. Yes, Madam Chair, we have several [1:18] have into the record. Yes, Madam Chair, we have several amendments. I will start with [1:21] Madam Chair, we have several amendments. I will start with [1:21] Madam Chair, we have several amendments. I will start with item two. This is an amendment [1:23] amendments. I will start with item two. This is an amendment [1:23] amendments. I will start with item two. This is an amendment from Council District one. The [1:25] item two. This is an amendment from Council District one. The [1:25] item two. This is an amendment from Council District one. The amendment reads as follows. The [1:28] from Council District one. The amendment reads as follows. The [1:28] from Council District one. The amendment reads as follows. The following instructions to the [1:31] amendment reads as follows. The following instructions to the [1:31] amendment reads as follows. The following instructions to the recommendations. Request the [1:31] following instructions to the recommendations. Request the [1:32] following instructions to the recommendations. Request the City Attorney, in consultation [1:33] recommendations. Request the City Attorney, in consultation [1:33] recommendations. Request the City Attorney, in consultation with the Los Angeles Department [1:35] City Attorney, in consultation with the Los Angeles Department [1:35] City Attorney, in consultation with the Los Angeles Department of Transportation, to report [1:37] with the Los Angeles Department of Transportation, to report [1:37] with the Los Angeles Department of Transportation, to report back on any legislation the [1:38] of Transportation, to report back on any legislation the [1:38] of Transportation, to report back on any legislation the city may support to strengthen [1:40] back on any legislation the city may support to strengthen [1:40] back on any legislation the city may support to strengthen local jurisdiction authority to [1:42] city may support to strengthen local jurisdiction authority to [1:42] city may support to strengthen local jurisdiction authority to approve, condition or regulate [1:44] local jurisdiction authority to approve, condition or regulate [1:44] local jurisdiction authority to approve, condition or regulate autonomous vehicle operations. [1:46] approve, condition or regulate autonomous vehicle operations. [1:46] approve, condition or regulate autonomous vehicle operations. The report should also include [1:49] autonomous vehicle operations. The report should also include [1:49] autonomous vehicle operations. The report should also include recommendations for potential [1:50] The report should also include recommendations for potential [1:50] The report should also include recommendations for potential changes to state and federal [1:52] recommendations for potential changes to state and federal [1:52] recommendations for potential changes to state and federal law. The next amendment is for [1:55] changes to state and federal law. The next amendment is for [1:55] changes to state and federal law. The next amendment is for item three. That's Council file [1:59] law. The next amendment is for item three. That's Council file [1:59] law. The next amendment is for item three. That's Council file 25-1481. These are [2:01] item three. That's Council file 25-1481. These are [2:01] item three. That's Council file 25-1481. These are recommendations of the chair. [2:02] 25-1481. These are recommendations of the chair. [2:02] 25-1481. These are recommendations of the chair. The recommendation reads as [2:04] recommendations of the chair. The recommendation reads as [2:04] recommendations of the chair. The recommendation reads as follows. Adopt the motion, as [2:06] The recommendation reads as follows. Adopt the motion, as [2:06] The recommendation reads as follows. Adopt the motion, as amended to add the following [2:08] follows. Adopt the motion, as amended to add the following [2:09] follows. Adopt the motion, as amended to add the following instruction. Transfer slash [2:11] amended to add the following instruction. Transfer slash [2:11] amended to add the following instruction. Transfer slash appropriate $100,000 from the [2:13] instruction. Transfer slash appropriate $100,000 from the [2:13] instruction. Transfer slash appropriate $100,000 from the Road Maintenance and [2:14] appropriate $100,000 from the Road Maintenance and [2:14] appropriate $100,000 from the Road Maintenance and Rehabilitation Special Fund, or [2:16] Road Maintenance and Rehabilitation Special Fund, or [2:16] Road Maintenance and Rehabilitation Special Fund, or SB 1-1 fund. Number 59. Dash [2:21] Rehabilitation Special Fund, or SB 1-1 fund. Number 59. Dash [2:21] Rehabilitation Special Fund, or SB 1-1 fund. Number 59. Dash five zero. Account number 50 c [2:25] SB 1-1 fund. Number 59. Dash five zero. Account number 50 c [2:25] SB 1-1 fund. Number 59. Dash five zero. Account number 50 c z e l mission Miles Sepulveda [2:28] five zero. Account number 50 c z e l mission Miles Sepulveda [2:28] five zero. Account number 50 c z e l mission Miles Sepulveda visioning for a safe and Active [2:30] z e l mission Miles Sepulveda visioning for a safe and Active [2:30] z e l mission Miles Sepulveda visioning for a safe and Active community to the Bureau of [2:32] visioning for a safe and Active community to the Bureau of [2:32] visioning for a safe and Active community to the Bureau of Street Lighting Fund number 184, [2:36] community to the Bureau of Street Lighting Fund number 184, [2:36] community to the Bureau of Street Lighting Fund number 184, as specified below. Account [2:38] Street Lighting Fund number 184, as specified below. Account [2:38] Street Lighting Fund number 184, as specified below. Account number 001010. Salaries general [2:43] as specified below. Account number 001010. Salaries general [2:43] as specified below. Account number 001010. Salaries general $70,000. Account number 001090. [2:47] number 001010. Salaries general $70,000. Account number 001090. [2:47] number 001010. Salaries general $70,000. Account number 001090. Salaries over time $30,000. The [2:53] $70,000. Account number 001090. Salaries over time $30,000. The [2:53] $70,000. Account number 001090. Salaries over time $30,000. The next. The next amendment we [2:56] Salaries over time $30,000. The next. The next amendment we [2:56] Salaries over time $30,000. The next. The next amendment we have is for item nine from [2:58] next. The next amendment we have is for item nine from [2:58] next. The next amendment we have is for item nine from Council District one, and it [3:02] have is for item nine from Council District one, and it [3:02] have is for item nine from Council District one, and it reads as follows. Instruct the [3:05] Council District one, and it reads as follows. Instruct the [3:05] Council District one, and it reads as follows. Instruct the Los Angeles Department of [3:06] reads as follows. Instruct the Los Angeles Department of [3:06] reads as follows. Instruct the Los Angeles Department of Transportation, in consultation [3:08] Los Angeles Department of Transportation, in consultation [3:08] Los Angeles Department of Transportation, in consultation with the City Administrative [3:10] Transportation, in consultation with the City Administrative [3:10] Transportation, in consultation with the City Administrative officer and the City Attorney, [3:11] with the City Administrative officer and the City Attorney, [3:11] with the City Administrative officer and the City Attorney, to report back on the [3:13] officer and the City Attorney, to report back on the [3:13] officer and the City Attorney, to report back on the feasibility of implementing a [3:14] to report back on the feasibility of implementing a [3:14] to report back on the feasibility of implementing a tiered permit structure that [3:16] feasibility of implementing a tiered permit structure that [3:16] feasibility of implementing a tiered permit structure that scales permit fees based on [3:18] tiered permit structure that scales permit fees based on [3:18] tiered permit structure that scales permit fees based on operator size, including an [3:20] scales permit fees based on operator size, including an [3:20] scales permit fees based on operator size, including an option for smaller operators to [3:22] operator size, including an option for smaller operators to [3:22] operator size, including an option for smaller operators to pay a lower permit fee as part [3:24] option for smaller operators to pay a lower permit fee as part [3:24] option for smaller operators to pay a lower permit fee as part of the next interaction of the [3:26] pay a lower permit fee as part of the next interaction of the [3:26] pay a lower permit fee as part of the next interaction of the on demand Mobility Program [3:28] of the next interaction of the on demand Mobility Program [3:28] of the next interaction of the on demand Mobility Program update. To instruct the Ladot [3:31] on demand Mobility Program update. To instruct the Ladot [3:31] on demand Mobility Program update. To instruct the Ladot and CEO to provide a verbal [3:33] update. To instruct the Ladot and CEO to provide a verbal [3:33] update. To instruct the Ladot and CEO to provide a verbal report in six months, and [3:35] and CEO to provide a verbal report in six months, and [3:35] and CEO to provide a verbal report in six months, and present to the Public Works and [3:36] report in six months, and present to the Public Works and [3:36] report in six months, and present to the Public Works and Transportation Committee a [3:38] present to the Public Works and Transportation Committee a [3:38] present to the Public Works and Transportation Committee a status update on the on demand [3:40] Transportation Committee a status update on the on demand [3:40] Transportation Committee a status update on the on demand mobility program, including but [3:41] status update on the on demand mobility program, including but [3:41] status update on the on demand mobility program, including but not limited to, total revenue [3:45] mobility program, including but not limited to, total revenue [3:45] mobility program, including but not limited to, total revenue collected per geographic [3:46] not limited to, total revenue collected per geographic [3:46] not limited to, total revenue collected per geographic categories. Average number of [3:48] collected per geographic categories. Average number of [3:48] collected per geographic categories. Average number of 311 requests per geographic [3:50] categories. Average number of 311 requests per geographic [3:50] categories. Average number of 311 requests per geographic categories. Average number of [3:52] 311 requests per geographic categories. Average number of [3:52] 311 requests per geographic categories. Average number of trips per geographic and number [3:55] categories. Average number of trips per geographic and number [3:55] categories. Average number of trips per geographic and number of scooters deployed, and three. [3:58] trips per geographic and number of scooters deployed, and three. [3:58] trips per geographic and number of scooters deployed, and three. Instruct Ladot and CEO to [4:00] of scooters deployed, and three. Instruct Ladot and CEO to [4:00] of scooters deployed, and three. Instruct Ladot and CEO to report in one year to [4:02] Instruct Ladot and CEO to report in one year to [4:02] Instruct Ladot and CEO to report in one year to reevaluate the on demand [4:03] report in one year to reevaluate the on demand [4:03] report in one year to reevaluate the on demand mobility program per trip fee [4:05] reevaluate the on demand mobility program per trip fee [4:05] reevaluate the on demand mobility program per trip fee structure and permit fees [4:07] mobility program per trip fee structure and permit fees [4:07] mobility program per trip fee structure and permit fees consistent with prop 26. And [4:11] structure and permit fees consistent with prop 26. And [4:11] structure and permit fees consistent with prop 26. And lastly, we have an amendment [4:15] consistent with prop 26. And lastly, we have an amendment [4:15] consistent with prop 26. And lastly, we have an amendment for item nine as well. From the [4:18] lastly, we have an amendment for item nine as well. From the [4:19] lastly, we have an amendment for item nine as well. From the chair. The amendment reads as [4:21] for item nine as well. From the chair. The amendment reads as [4:21] for item nine as well. From the chair. The amendment reads as follows. Adopt the following in [4:23] chair. The amendment reads as follows. Adopt the following in [4:23] chair. The amendment reads as follows. Adopt the following in lieu of the recommendations [4:25] follows. Adopt the following in lieu of the recommendations [4:25] follows. Adopt the following in lieu of the recommendations listed in the June 10th, 2025 [4:27] lieu of the recommendations listed in the June 10th, 2025 [4:28] lieu of the recommendations listed in the June 10th, 2025 LADOT report one. Find that [4:30] listed in the June 10th, 2025 LADOT report one. Find that [4:30] listed in the June 10th, 2025 LADOT report one. Find that there is a clear public benefit [4:32] LADOT report one. Find that there is a clear public benefit [4:32] LADOT report one. Find that there is a clear public benefit to waive the additional fee for [4:33] there is a clear public benefit to waive the additional fee for [4:33] there is a clear public benefit to waive the additional fee for the equity focused Mobility [4:35] to waive the additional fee for the equity focused Mobility [4:35] to waive the additional fee for the equity focused Mobility Development districts. Two. [4:37] the equity focused Mobility Development districts. Two. [4:37] the equity focused Mobility Development districts. Two. Approve the proposed trip fee [4:39] Development districts. Two. Approve the proposed trip fee [4:39] Development districts. Two. Approve the proposed trip fee update. See attachment to the [4:42] Approve the proposed trip fee update. See attachment to the [4:42] Approve the proposed trip fee update. See attachment to the rules and guidelines of the [4:43] update. See attachment to the rules and guidelines of the [4:43] update. See attachment to the rules and guidelines of the program related to the four on [4:45] rules and guidelines of the program related to the four on [4:45] rules and guidelines of the program related to the four on demand mobility program. [4:47] program related to the four on demand mobility program. [4:47] program related to the four on demand mobility program. Geographies based on the city [4:50] demand mobility program. Geographies based on the city [4:50] demand mobility program. Geographies based on the city Administrative officers or [4:51] Geographies based on the city Administrative officers or [4:51] Geographies based on the city Administrative officers or CEO's methodology, including a [4:54] Administrative officers or CEO's methodology, including a [4:54] Administrative officers or CEO's methodology, including a $150,000 permit fee. And [4:57] CEO's methodology, including a $150,000 permit fee. And [4:57] CEO's methodology, including a $150,000 permit fee. And instruct the CEO to report to [4:58] $150,000 permit fee. And instruct the CEO to report to [4:58] $150,000 permit fee. And instruct the CEO to report to the Budget and Finance [5:00] instruct the CEO to report to the Budget and Finance [5:00] instruct the CEO to report to the Budget and Finance Committee prior to adoption of [5:01] the Budget and Finance Committee prior to adoption of [5:01] the Budget and Finance Committee prior to adoption of these recommendations, with an [5:03] Committee prior to adoption of these recommendations, with an [5:04] Committee prior to adoption of these recommendations, with an analysis of the recommended [5:05] these recommendations, with an analysis of the recommended [5:05] these recommendations, with an analysis of the recommended trip for update, including [5:07] analysis of the recommended trip for update, including [5:07] analysis of the recommended trip for update, including authorizing the CEO to make [5:08] trip for update, including authorizing the CEO to make [5:09] trip for update, including authorizing the CEO to make technical adjustments to their [5:11] authorizing the CEO to make technical adjustments to their [5:11] authorizing the CEO to make technical adjustments to their analysis to meet the intent of [5:12] technical adjustments to their analysis to meet the intent of [5:12] technical adjustments to their analysis to meet the intent of the committee's recommendations. [5:15] analysis to meet the intent of the committee's recommendations. [5:15] analysis to meet the intent of the committee's recommendations. Three request the City [5:16] the committee's recommendations. Three request the City [5:17] the committee's recommendations. Three request the City Attorney's Office to prepare [5:18] Three request the City Attorney's Office to prepare [5:18] Three request the City Attorney's Office to prepare and present a draft ordinance [5:19] Attorney's Office to prepare and present a draft ordinance [5:19] Attorney's Office to prepare and present a draft ordinance to update the trip fees and any [5:21] and present a draft ordinance to update the trip fees and any [5:22] and present a draft ordinance to update the trip fees and any related items in this report. [5:24] to update the trip fees and any related items in this report. [5:24] to update the trip fees and any related items in this report. Further requests the City [5:25] related items in this report. Further requests the City [5:25] related items in this report. Further requests the City Attorney's Office to include [5:27] Further requests the City Attorney's Office to include [5:27] Further requests the City Attorney's Office to include language to prevent [5:29] Attorney's Office to include language to prevent [5:29] Attorney's Office to include language to prevent overcollection by requiring [5:30] language to prevent overcollection by requiring [5:31] language to prevent overcollection by requiring quarterly reviews and reports [5:32] overcollection by requiring quarterly reviews and reports [5:32] overcollection by requiring quarterly reviews and reports to council, and instituting [5:34] quarterly reviews and reports to council, and instituting [5:34] quarterly reviews and reports to council, and instituting corrective measures when needed. [5:36] to council, and instituting corrective measures when needed. [5:36] to council, and instituting corrective measures when needed. Corrective measures shall [5:38] corrective measures when needed. Corrective measures shall [5:38] corrective measures when needed. Corrective measures shall include, but are not limited to, [5:40] Corrective measures shall include, but are not limited to, [5:40] Corrective measures shall include, but are not limited to, refunds issued to operators on [5:41] include, but are not limited to, refunds issued to operators on [5:41] include, but are not limited to, refunds issued to operators on a regular basis. A credit [5:43] refunds issued to operators on a regular basis. A credit [5:43] refunds issued to operators on a regular basis. A credit issued toward fees imposed in [5:45] a regular basis. A credit issued toward fees imposed in [5:45] a regular basis. A credit issued toward fees imposed in future budget cycles, or a [5:47] issued toward fees imposed in future budget cycles, or a [5:47] issued toward fees imposed in future budget cycles, or a mid-year one time adjustment to [5:49] future budget cycles, or a mid-year one time adjustment to [5:49] future budget cycles, or a mid-year one time adjustment to per trip fees for instruct [5:52] mid-year one time adjustment to per trip fees for instruct [5:52] mid-year one time adjustment to per trip fees for instruct ladot with the assistance of [5:53] per trip fees for instruct ladot with the assistance of [5:53] per trip fees for instruct ladot with the assistance of the City Attorney's Office and [5:55] ladot with the assistance of the City Attorney's Office and [5:55] ladot with the assistance of the City Attorney's Office and the CEO to report with an [5:57] the City Attorney's Office and the CEO to report with an [5:57] the City Attorney's Office and the CEO to report with an analysis and recommendations [5:58] the CEO to report with an analysis and recommendations [5:58] the CEO to report with an analysis and recommendations for appropriate penalties to [6:00] analysis and recommendations for appropriate penalties to [6:00] analysis and recommendations for appropriate penalties to issue an administrative [6:02] for appropriate penalties to issue an administrative [6:02] for appropriate penalties to issue an administrative citation to any company [6:04] issue an administrative citation to any company [6:04] issue an administrative citation to any company operating dockless scooters and [6:06] citation to any company operating dockless scooters and [6:06] citation to any company operating dockless scooters and bicycles on the public right of [6:08] operating dockless scooters and bicycles on the public right of [6:08] operating dockless scooters and bicycles on the public right of way without a permit, and the [6:11] bicycles on the public right of way without a permit, and the [6:11] bicycles on the public right of way without a permit, and the financial impact to the on [6:12] way without a permit, and the financial impact to the on [6:12] way without a permit, and the financial impact to the on demand mobility program. Five [6:15] financial impact to the on demand mobility program. Five [6:15] financial impact to the on demand mobility program. Five instruct Ladot, with the [6:17] demand mobility program. Five instruct Ladot, with the [6:17] demand mobility program. Five instruct Ladot, with the assistance of the City [6:18] instruct Ladot, with the assistance of the City [6:18] instruct Ladot, with the assistance of the City Attorney's Office and the [6:19] assistance of the City Attorney's Office and the [6:19] assistance of the City Attorney's Office and the Department of Public Works, to [6:20] Attorney's Office and the Department of Public Works, to [6:20] Attorney's Office and the Department of Public Works, to report on a plan to impound, [6:22] Department of Public Works, to report on a plan to impound, [6:22] Department of Public Works, to report on a plan to impound, remove, and store micromobility [6:25] report on a plan to impound, remove, and store micromobility [6:25] report on a plan to impound, remove, and store micromobility devices from the public right [6:26] remove, and store micromobility devices from the public right [6:26] remove, and store micromobility devices from the public right of way, including possible [6:28] devices from the public right of way, including possible [6:28] devices from the public right of way, including possible procedures that would allow for [6:30] of way, including possible procedures that would allow for [6:30] of way, including possible procedures that would allow for immediate or streamlined [6:32] procedures that would allow for immediate or streamlined [6:32] procedures that would allow for immediate or streamlined removal and disposal of said [6:34] immediate or streamlined removal and disposal of said [6:35] immediate or streamlined removal and disposal of said devices by Ladot transportation [6:38] removal and disposal of said devices by Ladot transportation [6:38] removal and disposal of said devices by Ladot transportation investigators and six note and [6:41] devices by Ladot transportation investigators and six note and [6:41] devices by Ladot transportation investigators and six note and file the Ladot report dated [6:43] investigators and six note and file the Ladot report dated [6:43] investigators and six note and file the Ladot report dated September 15th, 2025. The CEO [6:46] file the Ladot report dated September 15th, 2025. The CEO [6:46] file the Ladot report dated September 15th, 2025. The CEO report dated December 3rd, 2025, [6:49] September 15th, 2025. The CEO report dated December 3rd, 2025, [6:49] September 15th, 2025. The CEO report dated December 3rd, 2025, and the City Attorney Report [6:51] report dated December 3rd, 2025, and the City Attorney Report [6:51] report dated December 3rd, 2025, and the City Attorney Report and draft Ordinance dated [6:53] and the City Attorney Report and draft Ordinance dated [6:53] and the City Attorney Report and draft Ordinance dated January 18th, 2024. Thank you [6:57] and draft Ordinance dated January 18th, 2024. Thank you [6:57] and draft Ordinance dated January 18th, 2024. Thank you so much for reading those [6:59] January 18th, 2024. Thank you so much for reading those [6:59] January 18th, 2024. Thank you so much for reading those amendments. Now it's time for [7:01] so much for reading those amendments. Now it's time for [7:01] so much for reading those amendments. Now it's time for us to move to. May I just make [7:04] amendments. Now it's time for us to move to. May I just make [7:04] amendments. Now it's time for us to move to. May I just make one change on one of the [7:05] us to move to. May I just make one change on one of the [7:05] us to move to. May I just make one change on one of the amendments on spelling? Oh, [7:07] one change on one of the amendments on spelling? Oh, [7:07] one change on one of the amendments on spelling? Oh, sure. So for my amendment for [7:09] amendments on spelling? Oh, sure. So for my amendment for [7:09] amendments on spelling? Oh, sure. So for my amendment for item nine, instruction one, [7:12] sure. So for my amendment for item nine, instruction one, [7:12] sure. So for my amendment for item nine, instruction one, it's next iteration, not [7:15] item nine, instruction one, it's next iteration, not [7:15] item nine, instruction one, it's next iteration, not interaction, please. Thank you, [7:17] it's next iteration, not interaction, please. Thank you, [7:17] it's next iteration, not interaction, please. Thank you, thank you, thank you. Now let's [7:21] interaction, please. Thank you, thank you, thank you. Now let's [7:21] interaction, please. Thank you, thank you, thank you. Now let's move on to public comment. Mr. [7:23] thank you, thank you. Now let's move on to public comment. Mr. [7:23] thank you, thank you. Now let's move on to public comment. Mr. clerk, can you please read the [7:25] move on to public comment. Mr. clerk, can you please read the [7:25] move on to public comment. Mr. clerk, can you please read the instructions for public comment? [7:27] clerk, can you please read the instructions for public comment? [7:27] clerk, can you please read the instructions for public comment? For those wishing to give [7:28] instructions for public comment? For those wishing to give [7:28] instructions for public comment? For those wishing to give public comment on the items on [7:30] For those wishing to give public comment on the items on [7:30] For those wishing to give public comment on the items on this agenda, you're given one [7:32] public comment on the items on this agenda, you're given one [7:32] public comment on the items on this agenda, you're given one minute per item for a maximum [7:33] this agenda, you're given one minute per item for a maximum [7:33] this agenda, you're given one minute per item for a maximum of two minutes. You may [7:35] minute per item for a maximum of two minutes. You may [7:35] minute per item for a maximum of two minutes. You may register at the kiosk in the [7:37] of two minutes. You may register at the kiosk in the [7:37] of two minutes. You may register at the kiosk in the back corner there. Additionally, [7:38] register at the kiosk in the back corner there. Additionally, [7:38] register at the kiosk in the back corner there. Additionally, one minute for general public [7:40] back corner there. Additionally, one minute for general public [7:40] back corner there. Additionally, one minute for general public comment. Thank you so much, [7:45] one minute for general public comment. Thank you so much, [7:45] one minute for general public comment. Thank you so much, Andrew. Will you please conduct [7:46] comment. Thank you so much, Andrew. Will you please conduct [7:46] comment. Thank you so much, Andrew. Will you please conduct public comment? Yes, Madam [7:48] Andrew. Will you please conduct public comment? Yes, Madam [7:48] Andrew. Will you please conduct public comment? Yes, Madam Chair, as of now we have three [7:51] public comment? Yes, Madam Chair, as of now we have three [7:51] public comment? Yes, Madam Chair, as of now we have three speakers. We have Donna [7:53] Chair, as of now we have three speakers. We have Donna [7:53] Chair, as of now we have three speakers. We have Donna Washington, Andrew Grebner and [7:55] speakers. We have Donna Washington, Andrew Grebner and [7:55] speakers. We have Donna Washington, Andrew Grebner and Alvin Fowler step up. And also [7:57] Washington, Andrew Grebner and Alvin Fowler step up. And also [7:57] Washington, Andrew Grebner and Alvin Fowler step up. And also Monica Delallo. Please state [8:04] Alvin Fowler step up. And also Monica Delallo. Please state [8:05] Alvin Fowler step up. And also Monica Delallo. Please state your name and the items that [8:06] Monica Delallo. Please state your name and the items that [8:06] Monica Delallo. Please state your name and the items that you'd like to speak on. Yes. [8:12] your name and the items that you'd like to speak on. Yes. [8:12] your name and the items that you'd like to speak on. Yes. Okay. Good morning, honorable [8:14] you'd like to speak on. Yes. Okay. Good morning, honorable [8:14] you'd like to speak on. Yes. Okay. Good morning, honorable council members. I'm Donna [8:16] Okay. Good morning, honorable council members. I'm Donna [8:16] Okay. Good morning, honorable council members. I'm Donna Washington from film LA. [8:17] council members. I'm Donna Washington from film LA. [8:17] council members. I'm Donna Washington from film LA. Actually, I was calling or [8:18] Washington from film LA. Actually, I was calling or [8:19] Washington from film LA. Actually, I was calling or coming to speak about item [8:20] Actually, I was calling or coming to speak about item [8:20] Actually, I was calling or coming to speak about item number eight, but I guess it's [8:21] coming to speak about item number eight, but I guess it's [8:22] coming to speak about item number eight, but I guess it's been suspended for now. So I [8:23] number eight, but I guess it's been suspended for now. So I [8:23] number eight, but I guess it's been suspended for now. So I will come back. Continue, I [8:27] been suspended for now. So I will come back. Continue, I [8:27] been suspended for now. So I will come back. Continue, I continue I know it's been [8:28] will come back. Continue, I continue I know it's been [8:28] will come back. Continue, I continue I know it's been continued. It's been continued. [8:30] continue I know it's been continued. It's been continued. [8:30] continue I know it's been continued. It's been continued. Okay. I will come back when it [8:33] continued. It's been continued. Okay. I will come back when it [8:33] continued. It's been continued. Okay. I will come back when it comes back on the agenda. Thank [8:34] Okay. I will come back when it comes back on the agenda. Thank [8:35] Okay. I will come back when it comes back on the agenda. Thank you. Thank you. Please state [8:40] comes back on the agenda. Thank you. Thank you. Please state [8:40] comes back on the agenda. Thank you. Thank you. Please state your name and the items you'd [8:41] you. Thank you. Please state your name and the items you'd [8:41] you. Thank you. Please state your name and the items you'd like to speak on. My name is [8:43] your name and the items you'd like to speak on. My name is [8:43] your name and the items you'd like to speak on. My name is Alvin Fowler. I'm the item I [8:44] like to speak on. My name is Alvin Fowler. I'm the item I [8:44] like to speak on. My name is Alvin Fowler. I'm the item I would like to speak on is about [8:46] Alvin Fowler. I'm the item I would like to speak on is about [8:46] Alvin Fowler. I'm the item I would like to speak on is about a handicap parking curb in [8:48] would like to speak on is about a handicap parking curb in [8:48] would like to speak on is about a handicap parking curb in front of my house, which I [8:50] a handicap parking curb in front of my house, which I [8:50] a handicap parking curb in front of my house, which I originally applied for February [8:53] front of my house, which I originally applied for February [8:53] front of my house, which I originally applied for February 18th, 2022. I have made [8:57] originally applied for February 18th, 2022. I have made [8:57] originally applied for February 18th, 2022. I have made repeated visits to Mccusker's [9:00] 18th, 2022. I have made repeated visits to Mccusker's [9:00] 18th, 2022. I have made repeated visits to Mccusker's office in San Pedro, spoken to [9:03] repeated visits to Mccusker's office in San Pedro, spoken to [9:03] repeated visits to Mccusker's office in San Pedro, spoken to the representative of his in [9:07] office in San Pedro, spoken to the representative of his in [9:07] office in San Pedro, spoken to the representative of his in the downtown office and got no [9:10] the representative of his in the downtown office and got no [9:10] the representative of his in the downtown office and got no response. I'm a 100% disabled [9:13] the downtown office and got no response. I'm a 100% disabled [9:13] the downtown office and got no response. I'm a 100% disabled veteran and I would appreciate [9:15] response. I'm a 100% disabled veteran and I would appreciate [9:15] response. I'm a 100% disabled veteran and I would appreciate somebody telling me when, if [9:18] veteran and I would appreciate somebody telling me when, if [9:18] veteran and I would appreciate somebody telling me when, if ever, I will receive a handicap [9:21] somebody telling me when, if ever, I will receive a handicap [9:21] somebody telling me when, if ever, I will receive a handicap curb in front of my my house. [9:25] ever, I will receive a handicap curb in front of my my house. [9:25] ever, I will receive a handicap curb in front of my my house. Sir, where do you where do you [9:26] curb in front of my my house. Sir, where do you where do you [9:26] curb in front of my my house. Sir, where do you where do you live? What neighborhood or what [9:28] Sir, where do you where do you live? What neighborhood or what [9:28] Sir, where do you where do you live? What neighborhood or what district? I'm. I it's [9:33] live? What neighborhood or what district? I'm. I it's [9:33] live? What neighborhood or what district? I'm. I it's Mccusker's district and I live [9:36] district? I'm. I it's Mccusker's district and I live [9:36] district? I'm. I it's Mccusker's district and I live in the city of of la strip in [9:39] Mccusker's district and I live in the city of of la strip in [9:39] Mccusker's district and I live in the city of of la strip in the city of Gardena. My address [9:41] in the city of of la strip in the city of Gardena. My address [9:41] in the city of of la strip in the city of Gardena. My address is 14313 Denver Avenue. Gardena, [9:48] the city of Gardena. My address is 14313 Denver Avenue. Gardena, [9:48] the city of Gardena. My address is 14313 Denver Avenue. Gardena, California. ZIP code is 90248. [9:52] is 14313 Denver Avenue. Gardena, California. ZIP code is 90248. [9:52] is 14313 Denver Avenue. Gardena, California. ZIP code is 90248. So I have copies of that [9:54] California. ZIP code is 90248. So I have copies of that [9:54] California. ZIP code is 90248. So I have copies of that person's going to come and get [9:55] So I have copies of that person's going to come and get [9:55] So I have copies of that person's going to come and get your personal information. Okay. [10:00] person's going to come and get your personal information. Okay. [10:00] person's going to come and get your personal information. Okay. Thank you. All items in general [10:03] your personal information. Okay. Thank you. All items in general [10:03] your personal information. Okay. Thank you. All items in general public comment three minutes. [10:05] Thank you. All items in general public comment three minutes. [10:05] Thank you. All items in general public comment three minutes. So we have item two which is [10:09] public comment three minutes. So we have item two which is [10:09] public comment three minutes. So we have item two which is regulation on autonomous [10:12] So we have item two which is regulation on autonomous [10:12] So we have item two which is regulation on autonomous vehicle operators. So you're [10:15] regulation on autonomous vehicle operators. So you're [10:15] regulation on autonomous vehicle operators. So you're mad that you don't have enough [10:16] vehicle operators. So you're mad that you don't have enough [10:16] vehicle operators. So you're mad that you don't have enough local control over this. These [10:18] mad that you don't have enough local control over this. These [10:18] mad that you don't have enough local control over this. These weird cars that run around and [10:22] local control over this. These weird cars that run around and [10:22] local control over this. These weird cars that run around and have questionable safety [10:24] weird cars that run around and have questionable safety [10:24] weird cars that run around and have questionable safety standards and get often cause [10:26] have questionable safety standards and get often cause [10:26] have questionable safety standards and get often cause issues out on the roads? Very [10:29] standards and get often cause issues out on the roads? Very [10:29] standards and get often cause issues out on the roads? Very weird. So we have items four, [10:32] issues out on the roads? Very weird. So we have items four, [10:32] issues out on the roads? Very weird. So we have items four, five and six which are RV ban [10:35] weird. So we have items four, five and six which are RV ban [10:35] weird. So we have items four, five and six which are RV ban motions from Monica Rodriguez. [10:37] five and six which are RV ban motions from Monica Rodriguez. [10:37] five and six which are RV ban motions from Monica Rodriguez. City staff are please. And [10:39] motions from Monica Rodriguez. City staff are please. And [10:39] motions from Monica Rodriguez. City staff are please. And Heather Hutch, the chair of [10:40] City staff are please. And Heather Hutch, the chair of [10:40] City staff are please. And Heather Hutch, the chair of this committee. So RV bans and [10:43] Heather Hutch, the chair of this committee. So RV bans and [10:43] Heather Hutch, the chair of this committee. So RV bans and other anti-homelessness stuff [10:46] this committee. So RV bans and other anti-homelessness stuff [10:46] this committee. So RV bans and other anti-homelessness stuff does not get people housing and [10:48] other anti-homelessness stuff does not get people housing and [10:48] other anti-homelessness stuff does not get people housing and does not get people services. [10:50] does not get people housing and does not get people services. [10:50] does not get people housing and does not get people services. It does not get people off the [10:51] does not get people services. It does not get people off the [10:51] does not get people services. It does not get people off the street, nor is it helpful to [10:53] It does not get people off the street, nor is it helpful to [10:53] It does not get people off the street, nor is it helpful to anyone other than rich people [10:55] street, nor is it helpful to anyone other than rich people [10:55] street, nor is it helpful to anyone other than rich people who don't want to see poor [10:57] anyone other than rich people who don't want to see poor [10:57] anyone other than rich people who don't want to see poor people out on the streets while [10:58] who don't want to see poor people out on the streets while [10:58] who don't want to see poor people out on the streets while they drive in their cars. So [11:01] people out on the streets while they drive in their cars. So [11:01] people out on the streets while they drive in their cars. So that's pretty much what 4 or 5 [11:03] they drive in their cars. So that's pretty much what 4 or 5 [11:03] they drive in their cars. So that's pretty much what 4 or 5 and six are. So these [11:06] that's pretty much what 4 or 5 and six are. So these [11:06] that's pretty much what 4 or 5 and six are. So these anti-homelessness stuff, again, [11:08] and six are. So these anti-homelessness stuff, again, [11:08] and six are. So these anti-homelessness stuff, again, this is not the answer. And [11:11] anti-homelessness stuff, again, this is not the answer. And [11:11] anti-homelessness stuff, again, this is not the answer. And it's anti-poor and it's [11:15] this is not the answer. And it's anti-poor and it's [11:15] this is not the answer. And it's anti-poor and it's violence towards unhoused [11:16] it's anti-poor and it's violence towards unhoused [11:16] it's anti-poor and it's violence towards unhoused people. So no, on 4 or 5 and [11:20] violence towards unhoused people. So no, on 4 or 5 and [11:21] violence towards unhoused people. So no, on 4 or 5 and six. So let's just go to [11:23] people. So no, on 4 or 5 and six. So let's just go to [11:23] people. So no, on 4 or 5 and six. So let's just go to general comment. So the again [11:28] six. So let's just go to general comment. So the again [11:28] six. So let's just go to general comment. So the again the city really needs to [11:30] general comment. So the again the city really needs to [11:30] general comment. So the again the city really needs to actually get with it on the [11:32] the city really needs to actually get with it on the [11:32] the city really needs to actually get with it on the mobility plan. You know this is [11:35] actually get with it on the mobility plan. You know this is [11:35] actually get with it on the mobility plan. You know this is your own mobility plan. This is [11:37] mobility plan. You know this is your own mobility plan. This is [11:37] mobility plan. You know this is your own mobility plan. This is what the city created. And then [11:39] your own mobility plan. This is what the city created. And then [11:39] your own mobility plan. This is what the city created. And then you decided you didn't want to [11:41] what the city created. And then you decided you didn't want to [11:41] what the city created. And then you decided you didn't want to follow it. So now now that [11:43] you decided you didn't want to follow it. So now now that [11:43] you decided you didn't want to follow it. So now now that you're required to follow it [11:44] follow it. So now now that you're required to follow it [11:45] follow it. So now now that you're required to follow it because of measure H la, now [11:48] you're required to follow it because of measure H la, now [11:48] you're required to follow it because of measure H la, now you're just trying to get [11:50] because of measure H la, now you're just trying to get [11:50] because of measure H la, now you're just trying to get around repaving by doing a [11:53] you're just trying to get around repaving by doing a [11:54] you're just trying to get around repaving by doing a different type of repaving that [11:55] around repaving by doing a different type of repaving that [11:55] around repaving by doing a different type of repaving that doesn't actually meet the [11:58] different type of repaving that doesn't actually meet the [11:58] different type of repaving that doesn't actually meet the standards from LA for a [12:00] doesn't actually meet the standards from LA for a [12:00] doesn't actually meet the standards from LA for a required mobility plan [12:02] standards from LA for a required mobility plan [12:02] standards from LA for a required mobility plan implementation, and your not [12:05] required mobility plan implementation, and your not [12:05] required mobility plan implementation, and your not even repaving streets half the [12:07] implementation, and your not even repaving streets half the [12:07] implementation, and your not even repaving streets half the time, just so you can avoid [12:08] even repaving streets half the time, just so you can avoid [12:08] even repaving streets half the time, just so you can avoid having to put in some bike [12:10] time, just so you can avoid having to put in some bike [12:10] time, just so you can avoid having to put in some bike lanes. That's what it that's [12:12] having to put in some bike lanes. That's what it that's [12:12] having to put in some bike lanes. That's what it that's what it's boiling down to. Of [12:14] lanes. That's what it that's what it's boiling down to. Of [12:14] lanes. That's what it that's what it's boiling down to. Of course, you don't even have the [12:15] what it's boiling down to. Of course, you don't even have the [12:15] what it's boiling down to. Of course, you don't even have the money to repave the streets [12:17] course, you don't even have the money to repave the streets [12:17] course, you don't even have the money to repave the streets since you gave it all to the [12:18] money to repave the streets since you gave it all to the [12:18] money to repave the streets since you gave it all to the LAPD. So yeah, it's let's [12:22] since you gave it all to the LAPD. So yeah, it's let's [12:22] since you gave it all to the LAPD. So yeah, it's let's implement the mobility plan. [12:29] LAPD. So yeah, it's let's implement the mobility plan. [12:29] LAPD. So yeah, it's let's implement the mobility plan. Next up we have Monica Kiley [12:32] implement the mobility plan. Next up we have Monica Kiley [12:32] implement the mobility plan. Next up we have Monica Kiley and Yolanda Logan. Good morning. [12:35] Next up we have Monica Kiley and Yolanda Logan. Good morning. [12:35] Next up we have Monica Kiley and Yolanda Logan. Good morning. My name is Monica. I'm speaking [12:37] and Yolanda Logan. Good morning. My name is Monica. I'm speaking [12:37] and Yolanda Logan. Good morning. My name is Monica. I'm speaking on behalf of lime on item nine. [12:39] My name is Monica. I'm speaking on behalf of lime on item nine. [12:39] My name is Monica. I'm speaking on behalf of lime on item nine. Thank you so much for your time. [12:40] on behalf of lime on item nine. Thank you so much for your time. [12:41] on behalf of lime on item nine. Thank you so much for your time. And thank you to Dottie and Cao [12:42] Thank you so much for your time. And thank you to Dottie and Cao [12:42] Thank you so much for your time. And thank you to Dottie and Cao for putting forward reports on [12:44] And thank you to Dottie and Cao for putting forward reports on [12:44] And thank you to Dottie and Cao for putting forward reports on this item. Lime understands the [12:45] for putting forward reports on this item. Lime understands the [12:45] for putting forward reports on this item. Lime understands the necessity for the program to [12:46] this item. Lime understands the necessity for the program to [12:46] this item. Lime understands the necessity for the program to achieve cost recovery, and we [12:48] necessity for the program to achieve cost recovery, and we [12:48] necessity for the program to achieve cost recovery, and we are supportive of it. However, [12:49] achieve cost recovery, and we are supportive of it. However, [12:49] achieve cost recovery, and we are supportive of it. However, as the Cao report warns, due to [12:51] are supportive of it. However, as the Cao report warns, due to [12:51] are supportive of it. However, as the Cao report warns, due to prop 26, the city must avoid [12:53] as the Cao report warns, due to prop 26, the city must avoid [12:53] as the Cao report warns, due to prop 26, the city must avoid over or under collecting fees [12:55] prop 26, the city must avoid over or under collecting fees [12:55] prop 26, the city must avoid over or under collecting fees and recommends annual [12:57] over or under collecting fees and recommends annual [12:57] over or under collecting fees and recommends annual monitoring to stay in [12:58] and recommends annual monitoring to stay in [12:58] and recommends annual monitoring to stay in compliance. Lime supports this [12:59] monitoring to stay in compliance. Lime supports this [12:59] monitoring to stay in compliance. Lime supports this and urges the committee to add [13:01] compliance. Lime supports this and urges the committee to add [13:01] compliance. Lime supports this and urges the committee to add a monthly or quarterly review [13:02] and urges the committee to add a monthly or quarterly review [13:02] and urges the committee to add a monthly or quarterly review process to ensure collections [13:04] a monthly or quarterly review process to ensure collections [13:04] a monthly or quarterly review process to ensure collections are on track. Additionally, we [13:06] process to ensure collections are on track. Additionally, we [13:06] process to ensure collections are on track. Additionally, we believe that the city can [13:07] are on track. Additionally, we believe that the city can [13:07] are on track. Additionally, we believe that the city can secure more stable revenue by [13:09] believe that the city can secure more stable revenue by [13:09] believe that the city can secure more stable revenue by collecting a larger portion of [13:10] secure more stable revenue by collecting a larger portion of [13:10] secure more stable revenue by collecting a larger portion of program costs upfront through [13:11] collecting a larger portion of program costs upfront through [13:11] collecting a larger portion of program costs upfront through an increased annual permit fee. [13:13] program costs upfront through an increased annual permit fee. [13:13] program costs upfront through an increased annual permit fee. This would improve [13:14] an increased annual permit fee. This would improve [13:14] an increased annual permit fee. This would improve predictability for La Dottie [13:15] This would improve predictability for La Dottie [13:15] This would improve predictability for La Dottie without relying solely on a per [13:17] predictability for La Dottie without relying solely on a per [13:17] predictability for La Dottie without relying solely on a per trip variability for costs. We [13:19] without relying solely on a per trip variability for costs. We [13:19] without relying solely on a per trip variability for costs. We also encourage the city to use [13:20] trip variability for costs. We also encourage the city to use [13:20] trip variability for costs. We also encourage the city to use up to date trip estimates when [13:22] also encourage the city to use up to date trip estimates when [13:22] also encourage the city to use up to date trip estimates when setting the fees. The report [13:23] up to date trip estimates when setting the fees. The report [13:23] up to date trip estimates when setting the fees. The report uses fiscal year 24 data as the [13:25] setting the fees. The report uses fiscal year 24 data as the [13:25] setting the fees. The report uses fiscal year 24 data as the basis for their calculations, [13:27] uses fiscal year 24 data as the basis for their calculations, [13:27] uses fiscal year 24 data as the basis for their calculations, but ridership has grown [13:28] basis for their calculations, but ridership has grown [13:28] basis for their calculations, but ridership has grown significantly, and early fiscal [13:30] but ridership has grown significantly, and early fiscal [13:30] but ridership has grown significantly, and early fiscal year 26 volumes are up over 40% [13:32] significantly, and early fiscal year 26 volumes are up over 40% [13:32] significantly, and early fiscal year 26 volumes are up over 40% from fiscal year 24. Since the [13:34] year 26 volumes are up over 40% from fiscal year 24. Since the [13:34] year 26 volumes are up over 40% from fiscal year 24. Since the item was last heard at the [13:35] from fiscal year 24. Since the item was last heard at the [13:36] from fiscal year 24. Since the item was last heard at the budget Committee, Lime has [13:37] item was last heard at the budget Committee, Lime has [13:37] item was last heard at the budget Committee, Lime has grown our fleet by an [13:38] budget Committee, Lime has grown our fleet by an [13:38] budget Committee, Lime has grown our fleet by an additional 2500 vehicles and [13:40] grown our fleet by an additional 2500 vehicles and [13:40] grown our fleet by an additional 2500 vehicles and have continued to see high [13:41] additional 2500 vehicles and have continued to see high [13:41] additional 2500 vehicles and have continued to see high utilization rates, increasing [13:42] have continued to see high utilization rates, increasing [13:42] have continued to see high utilization rates, increasing the number of trips [13:43] utilization rates, increasing the number of trips [13:43] utilization rates, increasing the number of trips proportionally in the city. [13:45] the number of trips proportionally in the city. [13:45] the number of trips proportionally in the city. Calculations. Leveraging [13:46] proportionally in the city. Calculations. Leveraging [13:46] proportionally in the city. Calculations. Leveraging outdated ridership numbers will [13:47] Calculations. Leveraging outdated ridership numbers will [13:47] Calculations. Leveraging outdated ridership numbers will inevitably result in an [13:48] outdated ridership numbers will inevitably result in an [13:48] outdated ridership numbers will inevitably result in an overcollection of fees, which [13:49] inevitably result in an overcollection of fees, which [13:49] inevitably result in an overcollection of fees, which does not align with prop 26. [13:51] overcollection of fees, which does not align with prop 26. [13:52] overcollection of fees, which does not align with prop 26. Finally, we support a structure [13:53] does not align with prop 26. Finally, we support a structure [13:53] does not align with prop 26. Finally, we support a structure that keeps fees and equity [13:54] Finally, we support a structure that keeps fees and equity [13:55] Finally, we support a structure that keeps fees and equity districts lower to ensure that [13:56] that keeps fees and equity districts lower to ensure that [13:56] that keeps fees and equity districts lower to ensure that communities are not [13:57] districts lower to ensure that communities are not [13:57] districts lower to ensure that communities are not disproportionately impacted by [13:58] communities are not disproportionately impacted by [13:58] communities are not disproportionately impacted by the fee changes. Thank you for [14:00] disproportionately impacted by the fee changes. Thank you for [14:00] disproportionately impacted by the fee changes. Thank you for your consideration and for your [14:01] the fee changes. Thank you for your consideration and for your [14:01] the fee changes. Thank you for your consideration and for your continued partnership. Please [14:06] your consideration and for your continued partnership. Please [14:06] your consideration and for your continued partnership. Please state your name and the items [14:07] continued partnership. Please state your name and the items [14:07] continued partnership. Please state your name and the items you'd like to speak on. Kylie [14:09] state your name and the items you'd like to speak on. Kylie [14:09] state your name and the items you'd like to speak on. Kylie Feldman on behalf of bird for [14:11] you'd like to speak on. Kylie Feldman on behalf of bird for [14:11] you'd like to speak on. Kylie Feldman on behalf of bird for item number nine, you have one [14:13] Feldman on behalf of bird for item number nine, you have one [14:13] Feldman on behalf of bird for item number nine, you have one minute. Good morning, members [14:14] item number nine, you have one minute. Good morning, members [14:14] item number nine, you have one minute. Good morning, members of Public Works and [14:15] minute. Good morning, members of Public Works and [14:15] minute. Good morning, members of Public Works and Transportation committees. My [14:16] of Public Works and Transportation committees. My [14:16] of Public Works and Transportation committees. My name is Kylie on Birds [14:18] Transportation committees. My name is Kylie on Birds [14:18] Transportation committees. My name is Kylie on Birds government partnerships team. [14:19] name is Kylie on Birds government partnerships team. [14:19] name is Kylie on Birds government partnerships team. I'm here to offer my support [14:20] government partnerships team. I'm here to offer my support [14:20] government partnerships team. I'm here to offer my support for item number nine and for [14:22] I'm here to offer my support for item number nine and for [14:22] I'm here to offer my support for item number nine and for the continued progressive [14:24] for item number nine and for the continued progressive [14:24] for item number nine and for the continued progressive Equitable Transportation [14:25] the continued progressive Equitable Transportation [14:25] the continued progressive Equitable Transportation program to continue and thrive [14:26] Equitable Transportation program to continue and thrive [14:26] Equitable Transportation program to continue and thrive with Ladot. Thank you to this [14:29] program to continue and thrive with Ladot. Thank you to this [14:29] program to continue and thrive with Ladot. Thank you to this Council for your support of [14:30] with Ladot. Thank you to this Council for your support of [14:30] with Ladot. Thank you to this Council for your support of equitable transportation for [14:31] Council for your support of equitable transportation for [14:31] Council for your support of equitable transportation for both residents and visitors, [14:33] equitable transportation for both residents and visitors, [14:33] equitable transportation for both residents and visitors, and for all the work this [14:34] both residents and visitors, and for all the work this [14:34] both residents and visitors, and for all the work this Council has been doing to [14:35] and for all the work this Council has been doing to [14:35] and for all the work this Council has been doing to ensure that the vital access to [14:36] Council has been doing to ensure that the vital access to [14:37] Council has been doing to ensure that the vital access to sustainable, alternative [14:37] ensure that the vital access to sustainable, alternative [14:37] ensure that the vital access to sustainable, alternative transportation options can grow [14:38] sustainable, alternative transportation options can grow [14:38] sustainable, alternative transportation options can grow and thrive. We trust Ladot and [14:40] transportation options can grow and thrive. We trust Ladot and [14:40] transportation options can grow and thrive. We trust Ladot and this Council has carefully and [14:42] and thrive. We trust Ladot and this Council has carefully and [14:42] and thrive. We trust Ladot and this Council has carefully and thoughtfully determined the [14:43] this Council has carefully and thoughtfully determined the [14:43] this Council has carefully and thoughtfully determined the structure needed to ensure cost [14:44] thoughtfully determined the structure needed to ensure cost [14:44] thoughtfully determined the structure needed to ensure cost recovery and program [14:46] structure needed to ensure cost recovery and program [14:46] structure needed to ensure cost recovery and program sustainability. That being said, [14:47] recovery and program sustainability. That being said, [14:47] recovery and program sustainability. That being said, in order for this program to [14:48] sustainability. That being said, in order for this program to [14:48] sustainability. That being said, in order for this program to grow and evolve and access and [14:50] in order for this program to grow and evolve and access and [14:50] in order for this program to grow and evolve and access and safety, we support a stopgap [14:51] grow and evolve and access and safety, we support a stopgap [14:51] grow and evolve and access and safety, we support a stopgap measure to ensure fees [14:52] safety, we support a stopgap measure to ensure fees [14:52] safety, we support a stopgap measure to ensure fees collected do not go beyond cost [14:54] measure to ensure fees collected do not go beyond cost [14:54] measure to ensure fees collected do not go beyond cost recovery and remain in [14:55] collected do not go beyond cost recovery and remain in [14:55] collected do not go beyond cost recovery and remain in compliance with prop 26. This [14:57] recovery and remain in compliance with prop 26. This [14:57] recovery and remain in compliance with prop 26. This ensures low cost for riders, [14:59] compliance with prop 26. This ensures low cost for riders, [14:59] compliance with prop 26. This ensures low cost for riders, continued investment in the [15:00] ensures low cost for riders, continued investment in the [15:00] ensures low cost for riders, continued investment in the program and support for city [15:01] continued investment in the program and support for city [15:01] continued investment in the program and support for city staff, as well as one of the [15:03] program and support for city staff, as well as one of the [15:03] program and support for city staff, as well as one of the longest standing operators in [15:04] staff, as well as one of the longest standing operators in [15:04] staff, as well as one of the longest standing operators in LA. Bird is proud of our shared [15:06] longest standing operators in LA. Bird is proud of our shared [15:06] longest standing operators in LA. Bird is proud of our shared history together and expanding [15:07] LA. Bird is proud of our shared history together and expanding [15:07] LA. Bird is proud of our shared history together and expanding access to alternative, [15:08] history together and expanding access to alternative, [15:08] history together and expanding access to alternative, multimodal transportation, with [15:10] access to alternative, multimodal transportation, with [15:11] access to alternative, multimodal transportation, with 80% of our riders being local [15:12] multimodal transportation, with 80% of our riders being local [15:12] multimodal transportation, with 80% of our riders being local to LA, we represent not only [15:13] 80% of our riders being local to LA, we represent not only [15:13] 80% of our riders being local to LA, we represent not only bird in the program today, but [15:15] to LA, we represent not only bird in the program today, but [15:15] to LA, we represent not only bird in the program today, but also Angelenos. Thank you for [15:16] bird in the program today, but also Angelenos. Thank you for [15:16] bird in the program today, but also Angelenos. Thank you for your continued collaboration [15:17] also Angelenos. Thank you for your continued collaboration [15:17] also Angelenos. Thank you for your continued collaboration and we look forward to seeing [15:19] your continued collaboration and we look forward to seeing [15:19] your continued collaboration and we look forward to seeing what you all come up with today. [15:20] and we look forward to seeing what you all come up with today. [15:20] and we look forward to seeing what you all come up with today. Thank you, thank you. Last up [15:24] what you all come up with today. Thank you, thank you. Last up [15:24] what you all come up with today. Thank you, thank you. Last up we have Yolanda Logan. Please [15:28] Thank you, thank you. Last up we have Yolanda Logan. Please [15:28] Thank you, thank you. Last up we have Yolanda Logan. Please state your name and the items [15:29] we have Yolanda Logan. Please state your name and the items [15:30] we have Yolanda Logan. Please state your name and the items you'd like to speak on. Good [15:32] state your name and the items you'd like to speak on. Good [15:32] state your name and the items you'd like to speak on. Good morning, I'm Yolanda Logan. I [15:34] you'd like to speak on. Good morning, I'm Yolanda Logan. I [15:34] you'd like to speak on. Good morning, I'm Yolanda Logan. I prefer to be called Proverbs, [15:36] morning, I'm Yolanda Logan. I prefer to be called Proverbs, [15:36] morning, I'm Yolanda Logan. I prefer to be called Proverbs, like the book in the Bible. And [15:39] prefer to be called Proverbs, like the book in the Bible. And [15:39] prefer to be called Proverbs, like the book in the Bible. And today I'm going to be speaking [15:40] like the book in the Bible. And today I'm going to be speaking [15:40] like the book in the Bible. And today I'm going to be speaking on something that I just [15:42] today I'm going to be speaking on something that I just [15:42] today I'm going to be speaking on something that I just noticed today outside that is [15:45] on something that I just noticed today outside that is [15:45] on something that I just noticed today outside that is posted in reference to public [15:47] noticed today outside that is posted in reference to public [15:48] noticed today outside that is posted in reference to public works and transportation and [15:50] posted in reference to public works and transportation and [15:50] posted in reference to public works and transportation and extreme concern, and in [15:53] works and transportation and extreme concern, and in [15:53] works and transportation and extreme concern, and in reference to lane removals [15:56] extreme concern, and in reference to lane removals [15:56] extreme concern, and in reference to lane removals during peak hours. These items [15:58] reference to lane removals during peak hours. These items [15:58] reference to lane removals during peak hours. These items are posted outside of City Hall [16:01] during peak hours. These items are posted outside of City Hall [16:01] during peak hours. These items are posted outside of City Hall on the right. As you enter the [16:03] are posted outside of City Hall on the right. As you enter the [16:03] are posted outside of City Hall on the right. As you enter the building. The extreme concern I [16:05] on the right. As you enter the building. The extreme concern I [16:05] on the right. As you enter the building. The extreme concern I have is that in the lane [16:09] building. The extreme concern I have is that in the lane [16:09] building. The extreme concern I have is that in the lane removal peak hours expressed, [16:13] have is that in the lane removal peak hours expressed, [16:13] have is that in the lane removal peak hours expressed, the expressed extreme that I [16:14] removal peak hours expressed, the expressed extreme that I [16:15] removal peak hours expressed, the expressed extreme that I have is obstruction of ultimate [16:17] the expressed extreme that I have is obstruction of ultimate [16:17] the expressed extreme that I have is obstruction of ultimate of ultimate decision making [16:20] have is obstruction of ultimate of ultimate decision making [16:20] have is obstruction of ultimate of ultimate decision making authority being taken from [16:22] of ultimate decision making authority being taken from [16:22] of ultimate decision making authority being taken from Mayor Bass's office and other [16:25] authority being taken from Mayor Bass's office and other [16:25] authority being taken from Mayor Bass's office and other designated authorities when [16:26] Mayor Bass's office and other designated authorities when [16:26] Mayor Bass's office and other designated authorities when items adopted are not [16:29] designated authorities when items adopted are not [16:29] designated authorities when items adopted are not distributed and or presented to [16:32] items adopted are not distributed and or presented to [16:32] items adopted are not distributed and or presented to Mayor Bass's office forthwith [16:35] distributed and or presented to Mayor Bass's office forthwith [16:35] distributed and or presented to Mayor Bass's office forthwith or immediately prior to action [16:39] Mayor Bass's office forthwith or immediately prior to action [16:39] Mayor Bass's office forthwith or immediately prior to action taken on adopted items. Now, [16:41] or immediately prior to action taken on adopted items. Now, [16:42] or immediately prior to action taken on adopted items. Now, this that I'm speaking of has [16:43] taken on adopted items. Now, this that I'm speaking of has [16:43] taken on adopted items. Now, this that I'm speaking of has been printed out clearly on the [16:47] this that I'm speaking of has been printed out clearly on the [16:47] this that I'm speaking of has been printed out clearly on the documents that are posted. It [16:49] been printed out clearly on the documents that are posted. It [16:49] been printed out clearly on the documents that are posted. It literally says there are rules [16:52] documents that are posted. It literally says there are rules [16:52] documents that are posted. It literally says there are rules state that they do not do this. [16:54] literally says there are rules state that they do not do this. [16:54] literally says there are rules state that they do not do this. Please wrap up your comments. [16:56] state that they do not do this. Please wrap up your comments. [16:56] state that they do not do this. Please wrap up your comments. And with that being said, [16:59] Please wrap up your comments. And with that being said, [16:59] Please wrap up your comments. And with that being said, particularly lane removals [17:01] And with that being said, particularly lane removals [17:01] And with that being said, particularly lane removals during peak hours, the extreme [17:03] particularly lane removals during peak hours, the extreme [17:03] particularly lane removals during peak hours, the extreme concern is for the safety of [17:05] during peak hours, the extreme concern is for the safety of [17:05] during peak hours, the extreme concern is for the safety of the workers and also high [17:08] concern is for the safety of the workers and also high [17:08] concern is for the safety of the workers and also high concern for compounded delays [17:10] the workers and also high concern for compounded delays [17:10] the workers and also high concern for compounded delays for those that are riding the [17:12] concern for compounded delays for those that are riding the [17:12] concern for compounded delays for those that are riding the busses. And the last item is [17:14] for those that are riding the busses. And the last item is [17:14] for those that are riding the busses. And the last item is high concern for CO2 levels [17:16] busses. And the last item is high concern for CO2 levels [17:16] busses. And the last item is high concern for CO2 levels that are concentrated during [17:18] high concern for CO2 levels that are concentrated during [17:18] high concern for CO2 levels that are concentrated during high traffic times of day by [17:21] that are concentrated during high traffic times of day by [17:21] that are concentrated during high traffic times of day by traffic delays caused by [17:23] high traffic times of day by traffic delays caused by [17:23] high traffic times of day by traffic delays caused by bottlenecks of city work during [17:25] traffic delays caused by bottlenecks of city work during [17:25] traffic delays caused by bottlenecks of city work during peak hours. Thank you. Next up [17:29] bottlenecks of city work during peak hours. Thank you. Next up [17:29] bottlenecks of city work during peak hours. Thank you. Next up we have Edgar Recinos and [17:31] peak hours. Thank you. Next up we have Edgar Recinos and [17:32] peak hours. Thank you. Next up we have Edgar Recinos and Shahbaz Khan. Edgar Recinos or [17:37] we have Edgar Recinos and Shahbaz Khan. Edgar Recinos or [17:37] we have Edgar Recinos and Shahbaz Khan. Edgar Recinos or Shahbaz Khan. Not seeing them [17:41] Shahbaz Khan. Edgar Recinos or Shahbaz Khan. Not seeing them [17:41] Shahbaz Khan. Edgar Recinos or Shahbaz Khan. Not seeing them in the room. Madam chair that [17:43] Shahbaz Khan. Not seeing them in the room. Madam chair that [17:43] Shahbaz Khan. Not seeing them in the room. Madam chair that is concludes public comment. Is [17:45] in the room. Madam chair that is concludes public comment. Is [17:45] in the room. Madam chair that is concludes public comment. Is there anyone? Is there anyone [17:49] is concludes public comment. Is there anyone? Is there anyone [17:49] is concludes public comment. Is there anyone? Is there anyone else that wanted to speak [17:51] there anyone? Is there anyone else that wanted to speak [17:51] there anyone? Is there anyone else that wanted to speak during public comment denial [17:54] else that wanted to speak during public comment denial [17:54] else that wanted to speak during public comment denial officially closed public [17:55] during public comment denial officially closed public [17:55] during public comment denial officially closed public comment. Let's see. Now that [18:00] officially closed public comment. Let's see. Now that [18:00] officially closed public comment. Let's see. Now that we've closed, let's jump onto [18:01] comment. Let's see. Now that we've closed, let's jump onto [18:01] comment. Let's see. Now that we've closed, let's jump onto our agenda. I'd like to take up [18:04] we've closed, let's jump onto our agenda. I'd like to take up [18:04] we've closed, let's jump onto our agenda. I'd like to take up non-controversial items. Those [18:06] our agenda. I'd like to take up non-controversial items. Those [18:06] our agenda. I'd like to take up non-controversial items. Those would be one through three. Mr. [18:08] non-controversial items. Those would be one through three. Mr. [18:08] non-controversial items. Those would be one through three. Mr. clerk, can you please read the [18:10] would be one through three. Mr. clerk, can you please read the [18:10] would be one through three. Mr. clerk, can you please read the items? Very good. Okay. Item [18:13] clerk, can you please read the items? Very good. Okay. Item [18:13] clerk, can you please read the items? Very good. Okay. Item one city attorney report and [18:14] items? Very good. Okay. Item one city attorney report and [18:14] items? Very good. Okay. Item one city attorney report and draft ordinance relative to [18:15] one city attorney report and draft ordinance relative to [18:16] one city attorney report and draft ordinance relative to expanding the boundaries of [18:16] draft ordinance relative to expanding the boundaries of [18:16] draft ordinance relative to expanding the boundaries of Santa Monica Highland parking [18:18] expanding the boundaries of Santa Monica Highland parking [18:18] expanding the boundaries of Santa Monica Highland parking meter. Zoning Council, district [18:19] Santa Monica Highland parking meter. Zoning Council, district [18:19] Santa Monica Highland parking meter. Zoning Council, district 13. Item number two. Motion [18:24] meter. Zoning Council, district 13. Item number two. Motion [18:24] meter. Zoning Council, district 13. Item number two. Motion Gerardo Soto Martinez. Relative [18:25] 13. Item number two. Motion Gerardo Soto Martinez. Relative [18:25] 13. Item number two. Motion Gerardo Soto Martinez. Relative to cooperation from autonomous [18:27] Gerardo Soto Martinez. Relative to cooperation from autonomous [18:27] Gerardo Soto Martinez. Relative to cooperation from autonomous vehicle operators on vehicle [18:29] to cooperation from autonomous vehicle operators on vehicle [18:29] to cooperation from autonomous vehicle operators on vehicle operations data and adherence [18:29] vehicle operators on vehicle operations data and adherence [18:30] vehicle operators on vehicle operations data and adherence to local hire and workforce [18:31] operations data and adherence to local hire and workforce [18:31] operations data and adherence to local hire and workforce investment commitments. Item [18:34] to local hire and workforce investment commitments. Item [18:34] to local hire and workforce investment commitments. Item number three motion Rodriguez [18:35] investment commitments. Item number three motion Rodriguez [18:35] investment commitments. Item number three motion Rodriguez aye relative to the review and [18:37] number three motion Rodriguez aye relative to the review and [18:38] number three motion Rodriguez aye relative to the review and comments for the mission miles. [18:39] aye relative to the review and comments for the mission miles. [18:40] aye relative to the review and comments for the mission miles. Positive visioning for a safe [18:41] comments for the mission miles. Positive visioning for a safe [18:41] comments for the mission miles. Positive visioning for a safe and active Community project in [18:43] Positive visioning for a safe and active Community project in [18:43] Positive visioning for a safe and active Community project in Council District seven. Thank [18:46] and active Community project in Council District seven. Thank [18:46] and active Community project in Council District seven. Thank you. Does any member wish to [18:48] Council District seven. Thank you. Does any member wish to [18:48] Council District seven. Thank you. Does any member wish to discuss items one through three? [18:53] you. Does any member wish to discuss items one through three? [18:53] you. Does any member wish to discuss items one through three? Seeing none? Then on item one, [18:54] discuss items one through three? Seeing none? Then on item one, [18:54] discuss items one through three? Seeing none? Then on item one, I recommend we note and file [18:56] Seeing none? Then on item one, I recommend we note and file [18:56] Seeing none? Then on item one, I recommend we note and file the City Attorney's report and [18:57] I recommend we note and file the City Attorney's report and [18:57] I recommend we note and file the City Attorney's report and adopt the draft ordinance on [19:00] the City Attorney's report and adopt the draft ordinance on [19:00] the City Attorney's report and adopt the draft ordinance on item two. I recommend we adopt [19:02] adopt the draft ordinance on item two. I recommend we adopt [19:02] adopt the draft ordinance on item two. I recommend we adopt the motion, and on item three, [19:04] item two. I recommend we adopt the motion, and on item three, [19:04] item two. I recommend we adopt the motion, and on item three, I recommend we adopt the motion [19:06] the motion, and on item three, I recommend we adopt the motion [19:06] the motion, and on item three, I recommend we adopt the motion as amended to include the [19:08] I recommend we adopt the motion as amended to include the [19:08] I recommend we adopt the motion as amended to include the Bureau of Street Services [19:09] as amended to include the Bureau of Street Services [19:09] as amended to include the Bureau of Street Services funding transfer instructions. [19:12] Bureau of Street Services funding transfer instructions. [19:12] Bureau of Street Services funding transfer instructions. Members on these items. I ask [19:14] funding transfer instructions. Members on these items. I ask [19:14] funding transfer instructions. Members on these items. I ask for your vote, Mr. Clerk I [19:16] Members on these items. I ask for your vote, Mr. Clerk I [19:16] Members on these items. I ask for your vote, Mr. Clerk I yield aye. May I say something [19:18] for your vote, Mr. Clerk I yield aye. May I say something [19:18] for your vote, Mr. Clerk I yield aye. May I say something real quick about item two? The [19:21] yield aye. May I say something real quick about item two? The [19:21] yield aye. May I say something real quick about item two? The really, really quickly. Thank [19:23] real quick about item two? The really, really quickly. Thank [19:23] real quick about item two? The really, really quickly. Thank you. Just wanted to say that I [19:25] really, really quickly. Thank you. Just wanted to say that I [19:25] really, really quickly. Thank you. Just wanted to say that I put this amendment forward on [19:26] you. Just wanted to say that I put this amendment forward on [19:26] you. Just wanted to say that I put this amendment forward on item two, because it's been [19:28] put this amendment forward on item two, because it's been [19:29] put this amendment forward on item two, because it's been really difficult to deal with [19:30] item two, because it's been really difficult to deal with [19:30] item two, because it's been really difficult to deal with the amount of autonomous [19:32] really difficult to deal with the amount of autonomous [19:32] really difficult to deal with the amount of autonomous vehicles that run through our [19:34] the amount of autonomous vehicles that run through our [19:34] the amount of autonomous vehicles that run through our neighborhoods that have caused [19:36] vehicles that run through our neighborhoods that have caused [19:36] vehicles that run through our neighborhoods that have caused incidences, accidents, and we [19:38] neighborhoods that have caused incidences, accidents, and we [19:38] neighborhoods that have caused incidences, accidents, and we have no authority to regulate [19:40] incidences, accidents, and we have no authority to regulate [19:40] incidences, accidents, and we have no authority to regulate the only body in the city that [19:42] have no authority to regulate the only body in the city that [19:42] have no authority to regulate the only body in the city that can regulate is the airport. [19:45] the only body in the city that can regulate is the airport. [19:45] the only body in the city that can regulate is the airport. And so I'm hoping that the city [19:47] can regulate is the airport. And so I'm hoping that the city [19:47] can regulate is the airport. And so I'm hoping that the city attorney can provide or even [19:50] And so I'm hoping that the city attorney can provide or even [19:50] And so I'm hoping that the city attorney can provide or even our other partners, such as the [19:51] attorney can provide or even our other partners, such as the [19:51] attorney can provide or even our other partners, such as the CLA and Co, provide us with [19:53] our other partners, such as the CLA and Co, provide us with [19:53] our other partners, such as the CLA and Co, provide us with information around potential [19:54] CLA and Co, provide us with information around potential [19:54] CLA and Co, provide us with information around potential state legislative changes that [19:56] information around potential state legislative changes that [19:56] information around potential state legislative changes that could be made similar to what [19:58] state legislative changes that could be made similar to what [19:58] state legislative changes that could be made similar to what happens at the county. The [19:59] could be made similar to what happens at the county. The [19:59] could be made similar to what happens at the county. The county Board of Supervisors has [20:00] happens at the county. The county Board of Supervisors has [20:00] happens at the county. The county Board of Supervisors has their departments for [20:02] county Board of Supervisors has their departments for [20:02] county Board of Supervisors has their departments for legislative changes that could [20:03] their departments for legislative changes that could [20:03] their departments for legislative changes that could be made to benefit their work. [20:05] legislative changes that could be made to benefit their work. [20:05] legislative changes that could be made to benefit their work. And so that's why I put this [20:07] be made to benefit their work. And so that's why I put this [20:07] be made to benefit their work. And so that's why I put this amendment forward. Hopefully [20:07] And so that's why I put this amendment forward. Hopefully [20:07] And so that's why I put this amendment forward. Hopefully get some of those suggestions [20:09] amendment forward. Hopefully get some of those suggestions [20:09] amendment forward. Hopefully get some of those suggestions around what changes we could [20:10] get some of those suggestions around what changes we could [20:10] get some of those suggestions around what changes we could make so that we can regulate [20:13] around what changes we could make so that we can regulate [20:13] around what changes we could make so that we can regulate autonomous vehicles in this [20:14] make so that we can regulate autonomous vehicles in this [20:14] make so that we can regulate autonomous vehicles in this city. So, Madam Chair, would [20:17] autonomous vehicles in this city. So, Madam Chair, would [20:18] autonomous vehicles in this city. So, Madam Chair, would for item comments one second. [20:19] city. So, Madam Chair, would for item comments one second. [20:19] city. So, Madam Chair, would for item comments one second. Oh, just comments on to you [20:23] for item comments one second. Oh, just comments on to you [20:23] for item comments one second. Oh, just comments on to you know, I very much agree with [20:25] Oh, just comments on to you know, I very much agree with [20:25] Oh, just comments on to you know, I very much agree with the sentiment of Council Member [20:28] know, I very much agree with the sentiment of Council Member [20:28] know, I very much agree with the sentiment of Council Member Hernandez. It's never a good [20:31] the sentiment of Council Member Hernandez. It's never a good [20:31] the sentiment of Council Member Hernandez. It's never a good day when we see headlines [20:32] Hernandez. It's never a good day when we see headlines [20:32] Hernandez. It's never a good day when we see headlines related to the accidents that [20:34] day when we see headlines related to the accidents that [20:34] day when we see headlines related to the accidents that are being caused by these [20:35] related to the accidents that are being caused by these [20:36] related to the accidents that are being caused by these vehicles, we know. So we've [20:38] are being caused by these vehicles, we know. So we've [20:38] are being caused by these vehicles, we know. So we've heard that their bottom line is, [20:42] vehicles, we know. So we've heard that their bottom line is, [20:42] vehicles, we know. So we've heard that their bottom line is, you know, to be all over Los [20:44] heard that their bottom line is, you know, to be all over Los [20:44] heard that their bottom line is, you know, to be all over Los Angeles. But there's a lot of [20:47] you know, to be all over Los Angeles. But there's a lot of [20:47] you know, to be all over Los Angeles. But there's a lot of us, including myself, that [20:48] Angeles. But there's a lot of us, including myself, that [20:48] Angeles. But there's a lot of us, including myself, that believe or don't like that we [20:49] us, including myself, that believe or don't like that we [20:49] us, including myself, that believe or don't like that we don't have a human being in [20:51] believe or don't like that we don't have a human being in [20:51] believe or don't like that we don't have a human being in there that can potentially, you [20:52] don't have a human being in there that can potentially, you [20:52] don't have a human being in there that can potentially, you know, push an emergency button [20:53] there that can potentially, you know, push an emergency button [20:53] there that can potentially, you know, push an emergency button or steer the steering wheel [20:55] know, push an emergency button or steer the steering wheel [20:55] know, push an emergency button or steer the steering wheel when something is going wrong. [20:56] or steer the steering wheel when something is going wrong. [20:56] or steer the steering wheel when something is going wrong. So I will definitely actually [20:58] when something is going wrong. So I will definitely actually [20:58] when something is going wrong. So I will definitely actually be writing a letter to my state [21:00] So I will definitely actually be writing a letter to my state [21:00] So I will definitely actually be writing a letter to my state leaders, as well as the Public [21:02] be writing a letter to my state leaders, as well as the Public [21:02] be writing a letter to my state leaders, as well as the Public Utilities Commission and the [21:04] leaders, as well as the Public Utilities Commission and the [21:04] leaders, as well as the Public Utilities Commission and the Department of Motor Vehicles, [21:06] Utilities Commission and the Department of Motor Vehicles, [21:06] Utilities Commission and the Department of Motor Vehicles, on how irresponsible it is to [21:08] Department of Motor Vehicles, on how irresponsible it is to [21:08] Department of Motor Vehicles, on how irresponsible it is to not give us more jurisdiction [21:09] on how irresponsible it is to not give us more jurisdiction [21:09] on how irresponsible it is to not give us more jurisdiction as as cities to say where and [21:13] not give us more jurisdiction as as cities to say where and [21:13] not give us more jurisdiction as as cities to say where and when we think these things are [21:14] as as cities to say where and when we think these things are [21:14] as as cities to say where and when we think these things are appropriate to be on our [21:16] when we think these things are appropriate to be on our [21:16] when we think these things are appropriate to be on our streets. Thank you very much. [21:18] appropriate to be on our streets. Thank you very much. [21:18] appropriate to be on our streets. Thank you very much. Thank you members. So then, in [21:20] streets. Thank you very much. Thank you members. So then, in [21:21] streets. Thank you very much. Thank you members. So then, in the case that we have an [21:22] Thank you members. So then, in the case that we have an [21:22] Thank you members. So then, in the case that we have an amendment on item two, I [21:23] the case that we have an amendment on item two, I [21:23] the case that we have an amendment on item two, I recommend we adopt item two as [21:27] amendment on item two, I recommend we adopt item two as [21:27] amendment on item two, I recommend we adopt item two as amended amended. And you were [21:28] recommend we adopt item two as amended amended. And you were [21:28] recommend we adopt item two as amended amended. And you were going to make a recommendation. [21:30] amended amended. And you were going to make a recommendation. [21:30] amended amended. And you were going to make a recommendation. That was what I was trying to [21:31] going to make a recommendation. That was what I was trying to [21:31] going to make a recommendation. That was what I was trying to clarify, whether it was as [21:33] That was what I was trying to clarify, whether it was as [21:33] That was what I was trying to clarify, whether it was as amended, which you just said. [21:34] clarify, whether it was as amended, which you just said. [21:34] clarify, whether it was as amended, which you just said. So okay. We're good there. [21:36] amended, which you just said. So okay. We're good there. [21:36] amended, which you just said. So okay. We're good there. Shall I call the vote on that [21:38] So okay. We're good there. Shall I call the vote on that [21:38] So okay. We're good there. Shall I call the vote on that then? Yes, please. Very good. [21:40] Shall I call the vote on that then? Yes, please. Very good. [21:40] Shall I call the vote on that then? Yes, please. Very good. Okay. These are just [21:42] then? Yes, please. Very good. Okay. These are just [21:42] then? Yes, please. Very good. Okay. These are just transportation items. [21:44] Okay. These are just transportation items. [21:44] Okay. These are just transportation items. Councilmember Hutt. Yes. [21:46] transportation items. Councilmember Hutt. Yes. [21:46] transportation items. Councilmember Hutt. Yes. Councilmember Park. Yes. [21:48] Councilmember Hutt. Yes. Councilmember Park. Yes. [21:48] Councilmember Hutt. Yes. Councilmember Park. Yes. Councilmember. Hernandez. Yes. [21:50] Councilmember Park. Yes. Councilmember. Hernandez. Yes. [21:50] Councilmember Park. Yes. Councilmember. Hernandez. Yes. Councilmember. Padilla. Yes. [21:52] Councilmember. Hernandez. Yes. Councilmember. Padilla. Yes. [21:52] Councilmember. Hernandez. Yes. Councilmember. Padilla. Yes. And Councilmember Nazarian. Yes. [21:55] Councilmember. Padilla. Yes. And Councilmember Nazarian. Yes. [21:55] Councilmember. Padilla. Yes. And Councilmember Nazarian. Yes. Those matters are approved as [21:57] And Councilmember Nazarian. Yes. Those matters are approved as [21:57] And Councilmember Nazarian. Yes. Those matters are approved as noted. Thank you. Now, I'd like [21:59] Those matters are approved as noted. Thank you. Now, I'd like [21:59] Those matters are approved as noted. Thank you. Now, I'd like to take items four through six. [22:01] noted. Thank you. Now, I'd like to take items four through six. [22:01] noted. Thank you. Now, I'd like to take items four through six. Mr. clerk, can you please read [22:03] to take items four through six. Mr. clerk, can you please read [22:03] to take items four through six. Mr. clerk, can you please read the items? Okay. Number four, [22:06] Mr. clerk, can you please read the items? Okay. Number four, [22:07] Mr. clerk, can you please read the items? Okay. Number four, resolution. Rodriguez Lee, [22:08] the items? Okay. Number four, resolution. Rodriguez Lee, [22:08] the items? Okay. Number four, resolution. Rodriguez Lee, relative to establishing [22:09] resolution. Rodriguez Lee, relative to establishing [22:09] resolution. Rodriguez Lee, relative to establishing oversize vehicle parking [22:10] relative to establishing oversize vehicle parking [22:10] relative to establishing oversize vehicle parking restrictions along certain [22:11] oversize vehicle parking restrictions along certain [22:11] oversize vehicle parking restrictions along certain street segments of Sunland [22:12] restrictions along certain street segments of Sunland [22:12] restrictions along certain street segments of Sunland Boulevard, Gladstone Avenue, [22:14] street segments of Sunland Boulevard, Gladstone Avenue, [22:14] street segments of Sunland Boulevard, Gladstone Avenue, and Borden Avenue in Council [22:15] Boulevard, Gladstone Avenue, and Borden Avenue in Council [22:15] Boulevard, Gladstone Avenue, and Borden Avenue in Council District seven. Item five. [22:18] and Borden Avenue in Council District seven. Item five. [22:18] and Borden Avenue in Council District seven. Item five. Resolution. Lee Harris-dawson. [22:19] District seven. Item five. Resolution. Lee Harris-dawson. [22:19] District seven. Item five. Resolution. Lee Harris-dawson. Relative to establishing [22:20] Resolution. Lee Harris-dawson. Relative to establishing [22:20] Resolution. Lee Harris-dawson. Relative to establishing oversize vehicle restrictions [22:21] Relative to establishing oversize vehicle restrictions [22:21] Relative to establishing oversize vehicle restrictions along certain street segments [22:23] oversize vehicle restrictions along certain street segments [22:23] oversize vehicle restrictions along certain street segments of Gothic Avenue and Yolanda [22:25] along certain street segments of Gothic Avenue and Yolanda [22:25] along certain street segments of Gothic Avenue and Yolanda Avenue in Council District 12 [22:27] of Gothic Avenue and Yolanda Avenue in Council District 12 [22:27] of Gothic Avenue and Yolanda Avenue in Council District 12 and item number six. Resolution [22:28] Avenue in Council District 12 and item number six. Resolution [22:28] Avenue in Council District 12 and item number six. Resolution How they Lee. Relative to [22:30] and item number six. Resolution How they Lee. Relative to [22:30] and item number six. Resolution How they Lee. Relative to establishing oversize vehicle [22:31] How they Lee. Relative to establishing oversize vehicle [22:31] How they Lee. Relative to establishing oversize vehicle resolution, oversize vehicle [22:32] establishing oversize vehicle resolution, oversize vehicle [22:33] establishing oversize vehicle resolution, oversize vehicle resolutions restrictions rather [22:34] resolution, oversize vehicle resolutions restrictions rather [22:34] resolution, oversize vehicle resolutions restrictions rather along a certain street segment [22:35] resolutions restrictions rather along a certain street segment [22:35] resolutions restrictions rather along a certain street segment of West 18th Street in Council [22:37] along a certain street segment of West 18th Street in Council [22:37] along a certain street segment of West 18th Street in Council District ten. Thank you, Mr. [22:43] of West 18th Street in Council District ten. Thank you, Mr. [22:43] of West 18th Street in Council District ten. Thank you, Mr. Clerk. Is there any discussion [22:45] District ten. Thank you, Mr. Clerk. Is there any discussion [22:45] District ten. Thank you, Mr. Clerk. Is there any discussion on these items? No. Okay. So on [22:50] Clerk. Is there any discussion on these items? No. Okay. So on [22:50] Clerk. Is there any discussion on these items? No. Okay. So on items four through six, I [22:52] on these items? No. Okay. So on items four through six, I [22:52] on these items? No. Okay. So on items four through six, I recommend we adopt the [22:54] items four through six, I recommend we adopt the [22:54] items four through six, I recommend we adopt the resolution. Did you want to [22:55] recommend we adopt the resolution. Did you want to [22:55] recommend we adopt the resolution. Did you want to take Mr Bonin? No, I'll vote no. [22:57] resolution. Did you want to take Mr Bonin? No, I'll vote no. [22:57] resolution. Did you want to take Mr Bonin? No, I'll vote no. Okay. Mr. clerk, can you please [22:59] take Mr Bonin? No, I'll vote no. Okay. Mr. clerk, can you please [23:00] take Mr Bonin? No, I'll vote no. Okay. Mr. clerk, can you please call the roll? Very good. All [23:02] Okay. Mr. clerk, can you please call the roll? Very good. All [23:02] Okay. Mr. clerk, can you please call the roll? Very good. All these items. Councilmember. Yes. [23:05] call the roll? Very good. All these items. Councilmember. Yes. [23:06] call the roll? Very good. All these items. Councilmember. Yes. Councilmember. Park. Yes. [23:07] these items. Councilmember. Yes. Councilmember. Park. Yes. [23:07] these items. Councilmember. Yes. Councilmember. Park. Yes. Councilmember. Hernandez. No. [23:09] Councilmember. Park. Yes. Councilmember. Hernandez. No. [23:10] Councilmember. Park. Yes. Councilmember. Hernandez. No. Councilmember. Padilla. Yes. [23:12] Councilmember. Hernandez. No. Councilmember. Padilla. Yes. [23:12] Councilmember. Hernandez. No. Councilmember. Padilla. Yes. Councilmember. Nazarian. Aye. [23:15] Councilmember. Padilla. Yes. Councilmember. Nazarian. Aye. [23:15] Councilmember. Padilla. Yes. Councilmember. Nazarian. Aye. Very good. These matters are [23:16] Councilmember. Nazarian. Aye. Very good. These matters are [23:16] Councilmember. Nazarian. Aye. Very good. These matters are approved. Thank you. Now, I'd [23:18] Very good. These matters are approved. Thank you. Now, I'd [23:19] Very good. These matters are approved. Thank you. Now, I'd like to take up [23:20] approved. Thank you. Now, I'd like to take up [23:20] approved. Thank you. Now, I'd like to take up non-controversial item in the [23:22] like to take up non-controversial item in the [23:22] like to take up non-controversial item in the joint committee. Since item A [23:25] non-controversial item in the joint committee. Since item A [23:25] non-controversial item in the joint committee. Since item A is moved, moving to be [23:29] joint committee. Since item A is moved, moving to be [23:29] joint committee. Since item A is moved, moving to be determined. And we'd like to [23:31] is moved, moving to be determined. And we'd like to [23:31] is moved, moving to be determined. And we'd like to take item seven. Do any members [23:33] determined. And we'd like to take item seven. Do any members [23:33] determined. And we'd like to take item seven. Do any members want to discuss item seven? [23:38] take item seven. Do any members want to discuss item seven? [23:38] take item seven. Do any members want to discuss item seven? Okay. Item seven is a motion [23:40] want to discuss item seven? Okay. Item seven is a motion [23:40] want to discuss item seven? Okay. Item seven is a motion McCosker How they relative to [23:41] Okay. Item seven is a motion McCosker How they relative to [23:41] Okay. Item seven is a motion McCosker How they relative to applying for the city's local [23:43] McCosker How they relative to applying for the city's local [23:43] McCosker How they relative to applying for the city's local allocation of the South Bay [23:44] applying for the city's local allocation of the South Bay [23:44] applying for the city's local allocation of the South Bay City's Council of Governments [23:45] allocation of the South Bay City's Council of Governments [23:45] allocation of the South Bay City's Council of Governments measure M funds for fiscal year [23:48] City's Council of Governments measure M funds for fiscal year [23:48] City's Council of Governments measure M funds for fiscal year 2026. Thank you. Is there any [23:52] measure M funds for fiscal year 2026. Thank you. Is there any [23:52] measure M funds for fiscal year 2026. Thank you. Is there any discussion? Members on item [23:53] 2026. Thank you. Is there any discussion? Members on item [23:53] 2026. Thank you. Is there any discussion? Members on item seven? Okay, then I recommend [23:56] discussion? Members on item seven? Okay, then I recommend [23:56] discussion? Members on item seven? Okay, then I recommend we adopt the motion on item [23:59] seven? Okay, then I recommend we adopt the motion on item [23:59] seven? Okay, then I recommend we adopt the motion on item seven and then eight. We're [24:01] we adopt the motion on item seven and then eight. We're [24:01] we adopt the motion on item seven and then eight. We're doing it a further future [24:02] seven and then eight. We're doing it a further future [24:03] seven and then eight. We're doing it a further future meeting. All right. For item [24:05] doing it a further future meeting. All right. For item [24:05] doing it a further future meeting. All right. For item seven on the Transportation [24:06] meeting. All right. For item seven on the Transportation [24:07] meeting. All right. For item seven on the Transportation committee side. Councilmember. [24:09] seven on the Transportation committee side. Councilmember. [24:09] seven on the Transportation committee side. Councilmember. Yes. Councilmember. Park. Yes. [24:11] committee side. Councilmember. Yes. Councilmember. Park. Yes. [24:11] committee side. Councilmember. Yes. Councilmember. Park. Yes. Councilmember. Hernandez. Yes. [24:14] Yes. Councilmember. Park. Yes. Councilmember. Hernandez. Yes. [24:14] Yes. Councilmember. Park. Yes. Councilmember. Hernandez. Yes. Councilmember. Padilla. Yes. [24:15] Councilmember. Hernandez. Yes. Councilmember. Padilla. Yes. [24:15] Councilmember. Hernandez. Yes. Councilmember. Padilla. Yes. And Councilmember Nazarian. Aye. [24:18] Councilmember. Padilla. Yes. And Councilmember Nazarian. Aye. [24:18] Councilmember. Padilla. Yes. And Councilmember Nazarian. Aye. On the public works side, [24:19] And Councilmember Nazarian. Aye. On the public works side, [24:19] And Councilmember Nazarian. Aye. On the public works side, Councilmember Hernandez. Yes. [24:21] On the public works side, Councilmember Hernandez. Yes. [24:22] On the public works side, Councilmember Hernandez. Yes. Councilmember Padilla. Yes. And [24:24] Councilmember Hernandez. Yes. Councilmember Padilla. Yes. And [24:24] Councilmember Hernandez. Yes. Councilmember Padilla. Yes. And Councilmember Hutt. Yes. That [24:25] Councilmember Padilla. Yes. And Councilmember Hutt. Yes. That [24:25] Councilmember Padilla. Yes. And Councilmember Hutt. Yes. That item is approved. Thank you. [24:28] Councilmember Hutt. Yes. That item is approved. Thank you. [24:28] Councilmember Hutt. Yes. That item is approved. Thank you. Let's move on to the last item [24:30] item is approved. Thank you. Let's move on to the last item [24:30] item is approved. Thank you. Let's move on to the last item as part of our special joint [24:32] Let's move on to the last item as part of our special joint [24:32] Let's move on to the last item as part of our special joint committee meeting today. Mr. [24:34] as part of our special joint committee meeting today. Mr. [24:34] as part of our special joint committee meeting today. Mr. clerk, can you please read item [24:37] committee meeting today. Mr. clerk, can you please read item [24:37] committee meeting today. Mr. clerk, can you please read item nine? Very good. This matters [24:38] clerk, can you please read item nine? Very good. This matters [24:39] clerk, can you please read item nine? Very good. This matters continued from August 13th, [24:40] nine? Very good. This matters continued from August 13th, [24:40] nine? Very good. This matters continued from August 13th, 2025 and September 19th, 2025. [24:42] continued from August 13th, 2025 and September 19th, 2025. [24:42] continued from August 13th, 2025 and September 19th, 2025. City Attorney Report and Draft [24:44] 2025 and September 19th, 2025. City Attorney Report and Draft [24:44] 2025 and September 19th, 2025. City Attorney Report and Draft Ordinance Relative to amending [24:45] City Attorney Report and Draft Ordinance Relative to amending [24:45] City Attorney Report and Draft Ordinance Relative to amending Los Angeles Municipal Code to [24:47] Ordinance Relative to amending Los Angeles Municipal Code to [24:47] Ordinance Relative to amending Los Angeles Municipal Code to update the shared mobility [24:49] Los Angeles Municipal Code to update the shared mobility [24:49] Los Angeles Municipal Code to update the shared mobility device. Trip fees paid to the [24:50] update the shared mobility device. Trip fees paid to the [24:50] update the shared mobility device. Trip fees paid to the Department of Transportation [24:52] device. Trip fees paid to the Department of Transportation [24:53] device. Trip fees paid to the Department of Transportation and Duty and Co reports [24:55] Department of Transportation and Duty and Co reports [24:55] Department of Transportation and Duty and Co reports relative to on demand mobility [24:56] and Duty and Co reports relative to on demand mobility [24:56] and Duty and Co reports relative to on demand mobility program, trip fee update and [24:59] relative to on demand mobility program, trip fee update and [24:59] relative to on demand mobility program, trip fee update and methodology. Thank you. Okay, [25:03] program, trip fee update and methodology. Thank you. Okay, [25:03] program, trip fee update and methodology. Thank you. Okay, welcome to the table. We'd like [25:05] methodology. Thank you. Okay, welcome to the table. We'd like [25:05] methodology. Thank you. Okay, welcome to the table. We'd like a brief analysis or [25:07] welcome to the table. We'd like a brief analysis or [25:07] welcome to the table. We'd like a brief analysis or presentation of the fee and [25:11] a brief analysis or presentation of the fee and [25:11] a brief analysis or presentation of the fee and provide any commentary to go [25:13] presentation of the fee and provide any commentary to go [25:13] presentation of the fee and provide any commentary to go along with that. There we go. [25:18] provide any commentary to go along with that. There we go. [25:19] provide any commentary to go along with that. There we go. Good morning. I'm Allison [25:20] along with that. There we go. Good morning. I'm Allison [25:20] along with that. There we go. Good morning. I'm Allison Willhite with the office of the [25:22] Good morning. I'm Allison Willhite with the office of the [25:22] Good morning. I'm Allison Willhite with the office of the City Administrative Officer. [25:23] Willhite with the office of the City Administrative Officer. [25:23] Willhite with the office of the City Administrative Officer. The report provides our [25:25] City Administrative Officer. The report provides our [25:25] City Administrative Officer. The report provides our analysis and recommendation [25:26] The report provides our analysis and recommendation [25:26] The report provides our analysis and recommendation regarding an update to the trip [25:28] analysis and recommendation regarding an update to the trip [25:28] analysis and recommendation regarding an update to the trip fee structure for the city's on [25:29] regarding an update to the trip fee structure for the city's on [25:29] regarding an update to the trip fee structure for the city's on demand mobility program. This [25:31] fee structure for the city's on demand mobility program. This [25:32] fee structure for the city's on demand mobility program. This update is necessary because the [25:33] demand mobility program. This update is necessary because the [25:33] demand mobility program. This update is necessary because the current trip fees were [25:35] update is necessary because the current trip fees were [25:35] update is necessary because the current trip fees were implemented in 2021, and no [25:36] current trip fees were implemented in 2021, and no [25:36] current trip fees were implemented in 2021, and no longer cover the cost to [25:38] implemented in 2021, and no longer cover the cost to [25:38] implemented in 2021, and no longer cover the cost to operate this program. At this [25:40] longer cover the cost to operate this program. At this [25:40] longer cover the cost to operate this program. At this time, current revenues are only [25:41] operate this program. At this time, current revenues are only [25:41] operate this program. At this time, current revenues are only bringing in about 20% of the [25:43] time, current revenues are only bringing in about 20% of the [25:43] time, current revenues are only bringing in about 20% of the cost needed to cover the costs [25:44] bringing in about 20% of the cost needed to cover the costs [25:44] bringing in about 20% of the cost needed to cover the costs for this program. While La [25:47] cost needed to cover the costs for this program. While La [25:47] cost needed to cover the costs for this program. While La Dot's proposed fee structure [25:48] for this program. While La Dot's proposed fee structure [25:48] for this program. While La Dot's proposed fee structure would achieve that cost [25:50] Dot's proposed fee structure would achieve that cost [25:50] Dot's proposed fee structure would achieve that cost recovery, the concern for our [25:51] would achieve that cost recovery, the concern for our [25:51] would achieve that cost recovery, the concern for our office is that it's not [25:52] recovery, the concern for our office is that it's not [25:52] recovery, the concern for our office is that it's not compliant with state and city [25:53] office is that it's not compliant with state and city [25:53] office is that it's not compliant with state and city financial policies, in part [25:55] compliant with state and city financial policies, in part [25:55] compliant with state and city financial policies, in part because it shifts the cost [25:57] financial policies, in part because it shifts the cost [25:57] financial policies, in part because it shifts the cost burden of operating in the [25:58] because it shifts the cost burden of operating in the [25:58] because it shifts the cost burden of operating in the equity focus mobility [25:59] burden of operating in the equity focus mobility [25:59] burden of operating in the equity focus mobility development districts to other [26:01] equity focus mobility development districts to other [26:01] equity focus mobility development districts to other geographic areas, which we seek [26:02] development districts to other geographic areas, which we seek [26:03] development districts to other geographic areas, which we seek to address. In our new [26:04] geographic areas, which we seek to address. In our new [26:04] geographic areas, which we seek to address. In our new methodology presented in the [26:05] to address. In our new methodology presented in the [26:05] to address. In our new methodology presented in the report, we use updated data [26:08] methodology presented in the report, we use updated data [26:08] methodology presented in the report, we use updated data from fiscal year 2024 and 2025, [26:10] report, we use updated data from fiscal year 2024 and 2025, [26:10] report, we use updated data from fiscal year 2024 and 2025, as well as the data from the [26:12] from fiscal year 2024 and 2025, as well as the data from the [26:12] from fiscal year 2024 and 2025, as well as the data from the three 1-1 request. In order to [26:13] as well as the data from the three 1-1 request. In order to [26:13] as well as the data from the three 1-1 request. In order to do our analysis, we presented [26:15] three 1-1 request. In order to do our analysis, we presented [26:16] three 1-1 request. In order to do our analysis, we presented our report three fee structure [26:18] do our analysis, we presented our report three fee structure [26:18] do our analysis, we presented our report three fee structure options and recommend the [26:19] our report three fee structure options and recommend the [26:19] our report three fee structure options and recommend the Partial Subsidy option, which [26:21] options and recommend the Partial Subsidy option, which [26:21] options and recommend the Partial Subsidy option, which is projected to generate nearly [26:23] Partial Subsidy option, which is projected to generate nearly [26:23] Partial Subsidy option, which is projected to generate nearly 2.7 million in annual revenue [26:25] is projected to generate nearly 2.7 million in annual revenue [26:25] is projected to generate nearly 2.7 million in annual revenue and require an estimated [26:27] 2.7 million in annual revenue and require an estimated [26:27] 2.7 million in annual revenue and require an estimated 254,000, in a subsidy from the [26:28] and require an estimated 254,000, in a subsidy from the [26:28] and require an estimated 254,000, in a subsidy from the general Fund. The reason for [26:30] 254,000, in a subsidy from the general Fund. The reason for [26:30] 254,000, in a subsidy from the general Fund. The reason for the subsidy is based on city [26:32] general Fund. The reason for the subsidy is based on city [26:32] general Fund. The reason for the subsidy is based on city financial policy. To continue [26:34] the subsidy is based on city financial policy. To continue [26:34] the subsidy is based on city financial policy. To continue the policy goal for the no fee [26:36] financial policy. To continue the policy goal for the no fee [26:36] financial policy. To continue the policy goal for the no fee for the equity focused areas, [26:37] the policy goal for the no fee for the equity focused areas, [26:37] the policy goal for the no fee for the equity focused areas, the City Council would first [26:39] for the equity focused areas, the City Council would first [26:39] for the equity focused areas, the City Council would first need to find that there is a [26:40] the City Council would first need to find that there is a [26:40] the City Council would first need to find that there is a public benefit to waiving the [26:42] need to find that there is a public benefit to waiving the [26:42] need to find that there is a public benefit to waiving the fee, and then agree to that [26:43] public benefit to waiving the fee, and then agree to that [26:44] public benefit to waiving the fee, and then agree to that subsidy from the general fund, [26:45] fee, and then agree to that subsidy from the general fund, [26:45] fee, and then agree to that subsidy from the general fund, which is outlined in our [26:46] subsidy from the general fund, which is outlined in our [26:46] subsidy from the general fund, which is outlined in our financial policy. If there's [26:48] which is outlined in our financial policy. If there's [26:48] which is outlined in our financial policy. If there's any questions around the [26:49] financial policy. If there's any questions around the [26:49] financial policy. If there's any questions around the amendments, I saw that there [26:50] any questions around the amendments, I saw that there [26:50] any questions around the amendments, I saw that there were updates requested around [26:51] amendments, I saw that there were updates requested around [26:51] amendments, I saw that there were updates requested around the permits. We would just like [26:53] were updates requested around the permits. We would just like [26:53] were updates requested around the permits. We would just like to be able to review that [26:54] the permits. We would just like to be able to review that [26:54] the permits. We would just like to be able to review that further, to understand if it [26:56] to be able to review that further, to understand if it [26:56] to be able to review that further, to understand if it would be reasonable to increase [26:57] further, to understand if it would be reasonable to increase [26:57] further, to understand if it would be reasonable to increase the permit cost or to provide [26:58] would be reasonable to increase the permit cost or to provide [26:59] would be reasonable to increase the permit cost or to provide that tiered structure that was [27:00] the permit cost or to provide that tiered structure that was [27:00] the permit cost or to provide that tiered structure that was requested. With that, I [27:02] that tiered structure that was requested. With that, I [27:02] that tiered structure that was requested. With that, I conclude my presentation and [27:03] requested. With that, I conclude my presentation and [27:03] requested. With that, I conclude my presentation and open up to any questions. Thank [27:05] conclude my presentation and open up to any questions. Thank [27:05] conclude my presentation and open up to any questions. Thank you. I'd like to turn it over [27:09] open up to any questions. Thank you. I'd like to turn it over [27:09] open up to any questions. Thank you. I'd like to turn it over to our Public Works Committee [27:10] you. I'd like to turn it over to our Public Works Committee [27:10] you. I'd like to turn it over to our Public Works Committee chair for comments and [27:12] to our Public Works Committee chair for comments and [27:12] to our Public Works Committee chair for comments and questions. First, thank you. I [27:14] chair for comments and questions. First, thank you. I [27:14] chair for comments and questions. First, thank you. I yield I do have some questions. [27:17] questions. First, thank you. I yield I do have some questions. [27:17] questions. First, thank you. I yield I do have some questions. I have questions for the Cao [27:18] yield I do have some questions. I have questions for the Cao [27:18] yield I do have some questions. I have questions for the Cao and I have questions for Dot [27:20] I have questions for the Cao and I have questions for Dot [27:20] I have questions for the Cao and I have questions for Dot and the City attorney. Thank [27:24] and I have questions for Dot and the City attorney. Thank [27:24] and I have questions for Dot and the City attorney. Thank you. What are the determining [27:31] and the City attorney. Thank you. What are the determining [27:31] and the City attorney. Thank you. What are the determining factors for the recommendations [27:32] you. What are the determining factors for the recommendations [27:32] you. What are the determining factors for the recommendations to provide a 40% general [27:35] factors for the recommendations to provide a 40% general [27:35] factors for the recommendations to provide a 40% general administrative slash, 60% [27:37] to provide a 40% general administrative slash, 60% [27:37] to provide a 40% general administrative slash, 60% geographic specific work split. [27:40] administrative slash, 60% geographic specific work split. [27:40] administrative slash, 60% geographic specific work split. For that we consulted with Dot [27:42] geographic specific work split. For that we consulted with Dot [27:43] geographic specific work split. For that we consulted with Dot around how is it that they [27:44] For that we consulted with Dot around how is it that they [27:44] For that we consulted with Dot around how is it that they break down the work. There's [27:45] around how is it that they break down the work. There's [27:45] around how is it that they break down the work. There's various components of their [27:46] break down the work. There's various components of their [27:46] break down the work. There's various components of their work, which I'll let Jarvis [27:47] various components of their work, which I'll let Jarvis [27:48] various components of their work, which I'll let Jarvis with Dot to speak to. But what [27:50] work, which I'll let Jarvis with Dot to speak to. But what [27:50] work, which I'll let Jarvis with Dot to speak to. But what we saw from that was there are [27:52] with Dot to speak to. But what we saw from that was there are [27:52] with Dot to speak to. But what we saw from that was there are elements that are specific to [27:53] we saw from that was there are elements that are specific to [27:53] we saw from that was there are elements that are specific to the geographic area, but there [27:54] elements that are specific to the geographic area, but there [27:54] elements that are specific to the geographic area, but there are other elements that are [27:56] the geographic area, but there are other elements that are [27:56] the geographic area, but there are other elements that are just a broader administrative [27:57] are other elements that are just a broader administrative [27:57] are other elements that are just a broader administrative need for the program. And so [27:59] just a broader administrative need for the program. And so [27:59] just a broader administrative need for the program. And so just from Dot's assessment of [28:01] need for the program. And so just from Dot's assessment of [28:01] need for the program. And so just from Dot's assessment of their work, they they believed [28:02] just from Dot's assessment of their work, they they believed [28:02] just from Dot's assessment of their work, they they believed that a 4060 split would be [28:04] their work, they they believed that a 4060 split would be [28:04] their work, they they believed that a 4060 split would be appropriate. And thank you for [28:07] that a 4060 split would be appropriate. And thank you for [28:07] that a 4060 split would be appropriate. And thank you for that. And can you tell us what [28:09] appropriate. And thank you for that. And can you tell us what [28:09] appropriate. And thank you for that. And can you tell us what that split looks like in [28:10] that. And can you tell us what that split looks like in [28:10] that. And can you tell us what that split looks like in application. Like what falls [28:12] that split looks like in application. Like what falls [28:12] that split looks like in application. Like what falls under the 60? What falls under [28:13] application. Like what falls under the 60? What falls under [28:13] application. Like what falls under the 60? What falls under the 40? Yes. So as we look at [28:16] under the 60? What falls under the 40? Yes. So as we look at [28:16] under the 60? What falls under the 40? Yes. So as we look at the geographic work, because we [28:19] the 40? Yes. So as we look at the geographic work, because we [28:19] the 40? Yes. So as we look at the geographic work, because we have geographic trip fee zones, [28:22] the geographic work, because we have geographic trip fee zones, [28:22] the geographic work, because we have geographic trip fee zones, there's a lot of work that [28:23] have geographic trip fee zones, there's a lot of work that [28:23] have geographic trip fee zones, there's a lot of work that relates to three on one [28:25] there's a lot of work that relates to three on one [28:25] there's a lot of work that relates to three on one complaints in those areas, and [28:25] relates to three on one complaints in those areas, and [28:25] relates to three on one complaints in those areas, and in particular as outlined in [28:27] complaints in those areas, and in particular as outlined in [28:27] complaints in those areas, and in particular as outlined in the report and the special [28:29] in particular as outlined in the report and the special [28:29] in particular as outlined in the report and the special operation zone in those areas, [28:30] the report and the special operation zone in those areas, [28:31] the report and the special operation zone in those areas, we have far more three on one [28:32] operation zone in those areas, we have far more three on one [28:32] operation zone in those areas, we have far more three on one complaints typically, which [28:33] we have far more three on one complaints typically, which [28:33] we have far more three on one complaints typically, which requires us to be out there [28:36] complaints typically, which requires us to be out there [28:36] complaints typically, which requires us to be out there more often in person, on the [28:37] requires us to be out there more often in person, on the [28:38] requires us to be out there more often in person, on the ground, as well as in constant [28:40] more often in person, on the ground, as well as in constant [28:40] more often in person, on the ground, as well as in constant contact with companies related [28:42] ground, as well as in constant contact with companies related [28:42] ground, as well as in constant contact with companies related to the adjustments needed to to [28:46] contact with companies related to the adjustments needed to to [28:46] contact with companies related to the adjustments needed to to rectify complaint issues. We [28:47] to the adjustments needed to to rectify complaint issues. We [28:47] to the adjustments needed to to rectify complaint issues. We give the companies two hours to [28:49] rectify complaint issues. We give the companies two hours to [28:49] rectify complaint issues. We give the companies two hours to do that and we audit the [28:50] give the companies two hours to do that and we audit the [28:50] give the companies two hours to do that and we audit the complaint. So bear in mind [28:52] do that and we audit the complaint. So bear in mind [28:52] do that and we audit the complaint. So bear in mind there are roughly 15,000 [28:54] complaint. So bear in mind there are roughly 15,000 [28:54] complaint. So bear in mind there are roughly 15,000 scooters on the right of way at [28:55] there are roughly 15,000 scooters on the right of way at [28:55] there are roughly 15,000 scooters on the right of way at a given on a given day [28:57] scooters on the right of way at a given on a given day [28:57] scooters on the right of way at a given on a given day throughout the city of Los [28:58] a given on a given day throughout the city of Los [28:58] a given on a given day throughout the city of Los Angeles. So part of the [28:59] throughout the city of Los Angeles. So part of the [28:59] throughout the city of Los Angeles. So part of the geography of that is looking at [29:01] Angeles. So part of the geography of that is looking at [29:01] Angeles. So part of the geography of that is looking at the data, determining if there [29:02] geography of that is looking at the data, determining if there [29:02] geography of that is looking at the data, determining if there are anomalies within the data, [29:04] the data, determining if there are anomalies within the data, [29:04] the data, determining if there are anomalies within the data, and then going into those areas [29:05] are anomalies within the data, and then going into those areas [29:05] are anomalies within the data, and then going into those areas to ensure that that we're [29:08] and then going into those areas to ensure that that we're [29:09] and then going into those areas to ensure that that we're validating what we're seeing in [29:10] to ensure that that we're validating what we're seeing in [29:10] to ensure that that we're validating what we're seeing in the data. On the administrative [29:12] validating what we're seeing in the data. On the administrative [29:12] validating what we're seeing in the data. On the administrative side, we also manage day to day [29:15] the data. On the administrative side, we also manage day to day [29:15] the data. On the administrative side, we also manage day to day processes, including special [29:17] side, we also manage day to day processes, including special [29:17] side, we also manage day to day processes, including special events. I, you know, USC [29:20] processes, including special events. I, you know, USC [29:20] processes, including special events. I, you know, USC football games, establishing [29:21] events. I, you know, USC football games, establishing [29:22] events. I, you know, USC football games, establishing Geofences, establishing [29:23] football games, establishing Geofences, establishing [29:23] football games, establishing Geofences, establishing geofences for marathons, [29:25] Geofences, establishing geofences for marathons, [29:25] Geofences, establishing geofences for marathons, whether they're temporary or [29:27] geofences for marathons, whether they're temporary or [29:27] geofences for marathons, whether they're temporary or permanent. So we do a lot of [29:29] whether they're temporary or permanent. So we do a lot of [29:29] whether they're temporary or permanent. So we do a lot of that day to day activity, [29:30] permanent. So we do a lot of that day to day activity, [29:30] permanent. So we do a lot of that day to day activity, responding to issues, whether [29:33] that day to day activity, responding to issues, whether [29:33] that day to day activity, responding to issues, whether it's from, again, three on one [29:36] responding to issues, whether it's from, again, three on one [29:36] responding to issues, whether it's from, again, three on one or the public or council office. [29:38] it's from, again, three on one or the public or council office. [29:38] it's from, again, three on one or the public or council office. And then related to also simply [29:40] or the public or council office. And then related to also simply [29:40] or the public or council office. And then related to also simply working with the companies to [29:42] And then related to also simply working with the companies to [29:42] And then related to also simply working with the companies to ensure that we're getting the [29:44] working with the companies to ensure that we're getting the [29:44] working with the companies to ensure that we're getting the right kind of distribution and [29:46] ensure that we're getting the right kind of distribution and [29:46] ensure that we're getting the right kind of distribution and rebalancing within the city. So [29:47] right kind of distribution and rebalancing within the city. So [29:47] right kind of distribution and rebalancing within the city. So there's a lot of that that's [29:49] rebalancing within the city. So there's a lot of that that's [29:49] rebalancing within the city. So there's a lot of that that's involved. Great. Thank you. How [29:52] there's a lot of that that's involved. Great. Thank you. How [29:52] there's a lot of that that's involved. Great. Thank you. How sensitive is the fee model to [29:53] involved. Great. Thank you. How sensitive is the fee model to [29:53] involved. Great. Thank you. How sensitive is the fee model to changes in trip behavior in 311 [29:55] sensitive is the fee model to changes in trip behavior in 311 [29:55] sensitive is the fee model to changes in trip behavior in 311 requests? Well, in terms of [30:01] changes in trip behavior in 311 requests? Well, in terms of [30:01] changes in trip behavior in 311 requests? Well, in terms of trip behavior, the fee model is [30:04] requests? Well, in terms of trip behavior, the fee model is [30:04] requests? Well, in terms of trip behavior, the fee model is sensitive in the sense that if [30:05] trip behavior, the fee model is sensitive in the sense that if [30:05] trip behavior, the fee model is sensitive in the sense that if there are more under trip fee [30:07] sensitive in the sense that if there are more under trip fee [30:07] sensitive in the sense that if there are more under trip fee structure, the idea being if [30:08] there are more under trip fee structure, the idea being if [30:08] there are more under trip fee structure, the idea being if there are more trips that would [30:10] structure, the idea being if there are more trips that would [30:10] structure, the idea being if there are more trips that would require more work on our behalf, [30:12] there are more trips that would require more work on our behalf, [30:12] there are more trips that would require more work on our behalf, because that would likely [30:13] require more work on our behalf, because that would likely [30:13] require more work on our behalf, because that would likely engender more complaints [30:14] because that would likely engender more complaints [30:14] because that would likely engender more complaints related to more vehicles, more [30:16] engender more complaints related to more vehicles, more [30:16] engender more complaints related to more vehicles, more trips, things of that nature. [30:17] related to more vehicles, more trips, things of that nature. [30:17] related to more vehicles, more trips, things of that nature. So we would think that as you [30:20] trips, things of that nature. So we would think that as you [30:20] trips, things of that nature. So we would think that as you know, as companies scale higher, [30:22] So we would think that as you know, as companies scale higher, [30:22] So we would think that as you know, as companies scale higher, the number of devices on the [30:24] know, as companies scale higher, the number of devices on the [30:24] know, as companies scale higher, the number of devices on the right of way as well as scale [30:26] the number of devices on the right of way as well as scale [30:26] the number of devices on the right of way as well as scale the ridership, we expect that [30:27] right of way as well as scale the ridership, we expect that [30:27] right of way as well as scale the ridership, we expect that there will be more activity and [30:29] the ridership, we expect that there will be more activity and [30:29] the ridership, we expect that there will be more activity and work for staff to be out there [30:32] there will be more activity and work for staff to be out there [30:32] there will be more activity and work for staff to be out there to help manage the program. And [30:35] work for staff to be out there to help manage the program. And [30:35] work for staff to be out there to help manage the program. And just to, if I may, to add on to [30:37] to help manage the program. And just to, if I may, to add on to [30:37] to help manage the program. And just to, if I may, to add on to that, though, I do want to [30:39] just to, if I may, to add on to that, though, I do want to [30:39] just to, if I may, to add on to that, though, I do want to state that the data that we had [30:40] that, though, I do want to state that the data that we had [30:40] that, though, I do want to state that the data that we had for both fiscal year 2024 and [30:42] state that the data that we had for both fiscal year 2024 and [30:42] state that the data that we had for both fiscal year 2024 and 2025 was for the trips and for [30:44] for both fiscal year 2024 and 2025 was for the trips and for [30:44] for both fiscal year 2024 and 2025 was for the trips and for the 311 request, and we saw [30:45] 2025 was for the trips and for the 311 request, and we saw [30:45] 2025 was for the trips and for the 311 request, and we saw that they were pretty [30:46] the 311 request, and we saw that they were pretty [30:46] the 311 request, and we saw that they were pretty consistent. We looked at sort [30:47] that they were pretty consistent. We looked at sort [30:47] that they were pretty consistent. We looked at sort of the ratio, the proportions, [30:50] consistent. We looked at sort of the ratio, the proportions, [30:50] consistent. We looked at sort of the ratio, the proportions, and we saw that across the two [30:52] of the ratio, the proportions, and we saw that across the two [30:52] of the ratio, the proportions, and we saw that across the two years, there was sort of a [30:53] and we saw that across the two years, there was sort of a [30:53] and we saw that across the two years, there was sort of a consistency in how many [30:54] years, there was sort of a consistency in how many [30:54] years, there was sort of a consistency in how many requests were coming from these [30:55] consistency in how many requests were coming from these [30:55] consistency in how many requests were coming from these various geographic regions. So [30:57] requests were coming from these various geographic regions. So [30:57] requests were coming from these various geographic regions. So I would interpret that to say [31:00] various geographic regions. So I would interpret that to say [31:00] various geographic regions. So I would interpret that to say that it's maybe not that [31:01] I would interpret that to say that it's maybe not that [31:01] I would interpret that to say that it's maybe not that sensitive to it, but not to ly [31:04] that it's maybe not that sensitive to it, but not to ly [31:04] that it's maybe not that sensitive to it, but not to ly what Jarvis is saying around if [31:05] sensitive to it, but not to ly what Jarvis is saying around if [31:05] sensitive to it, but not to ly what Jarvis is saying around if there is an increase, what that [31:07] what Jarvis is saying around if there is an increase, what that [31:07] what Jarvis is saying around if there is an increase, what that may mean to the program cost [31:08] there is an increase, what that may mean to the program cost [31:08] there is an increase, what that may mean to the program cost overall. Great. Thank you [31:10] may mean to the program cost overall. Great. Thank you [31:10] may mean to the program cost overall. Great. Thank you chairman, I do thank you. I [31:13] overall. Great. Thank you chairman, I do thank you. I [31:13] overall. Great. Thank you chairman, I do thank you. I have a few more. I'll pass it [31:15] chairman, I do thank you. I have a few more. I'll pass it [31:15] chairman, I do thank you. I have a few more. I'll pass it to you. Go back. Oh, sure. Well [31:16] have a few more. I'll pass it to you. Go back. Oh, sure. Well [31:16] have a few more. I'll pass it to you. Go back. Oh, sure. Well thank you. I have a few [31:19] to you. Go back. Oh, sure. Well thank you. I have a few [31:19] to you. Go back. Oh, sure. Well thank you. I have a few questions as well. What kind of [31:20] thank you. I have a few questions as well. What kind of [31:21] thank you. I have a few questions as well. What kind of growth do we expect with this [31:22] questions as well. What kind of growth do we expect with this [31:22] questions as well. What kind of growth do we expect with this program between now and the [31:24] growth do we expect with this program between now and the [31:24] growth do we expect with this program between now and the Olympics? We do expect that's a [31:28] program between now and the Olympics? We do expect that's a [31:28] program between now and the Olympics? We do expect that's a new question that we do expect [31:29] Olympics? We do expect that's a new question that we do expect [31:29] Olympics? We do expect that's a new question that we do expect a significant growth. We've [31:31] new question that we do expect a significant growth. We've [31:31] new question that we do expect a significant growth. We've already discussed with the [31:33] a significant growth. We've already discussed with the [31:33] a significant growth. We've already discussed with the companies, particularly the [31:33] already discussed with the companies, particularly the [31:33] already discussed with the companies, particularly the larger ones, about the kind of [31:35] companies, particularly the larger ones, about the kind of [31:35] companies, particularly the larger ones, about the kind of growth that they expect to meet, [31:37] larger ones, about the kind of growth that they expect to meet, [31:37] larger ones, about the kind of growth that they expect to meet, the demand of what they believe [31:39] growth that they expect to meet, the demand of what they believe [31:39] growth that they expect to meet, the demand of what they believe will happen for the Olympics. [31:40] the demand of what they believe will happen for the Olympics. [31:40] the demand of what they believe will happen for the Olympics. And granted, the Olympics are a [31:41] will happen for the Olympics. And granted, the Olympics are a [31:41] will happen for the Olympics. And granted, the Olympics are a little over two years away, so [31:43] And granted, the Olympics are a little over two years away, so [31:43] And granted, the Olympics are a little over two years away, so we are expecting some growth. [31:45] little over two years away, so we are expecting some growth. [31:45] little over two years away, so we are expecting some growth. We will get a better sense [31:47] we are expecting some growth. We will get a better sense [31:47] we are expecting some growth. We will get a better sense after FIFA this summer in terms [31:50] We will get a better sense after FIFA this summer in terms [31:50] We will get a better sense after FIFA this summer in terms of special event growth, but we [31:51] after FIFA this summer in terms of special event growth, but we [31:51] after FIFA this summer in terms of special event growth, but we are expecting some growth to to [31:52] of special event growth, but we are expecting some growth to to [31:53] of special event growth, but we are expecting some growth to to manage the demand of the [31:54] are expecting some growth to to manage the demand of the [31:54] are expecting some growth to to manage the demand of the Olympics. And then are we aware [31:56] manage the demand of the Olympics. And then are we aware [31:56] manage the demand of the Olympics. And then are we aware of any illegal operators that [31:59] Olympics. And then are we aware of any illegal operators that [31:59] Olympics. And then are we aware of any illegal operators that we have currently in place to [32:01] of any illegal operators that we have currently in place to [32:01] of any illegal operators that we have currently in place to enforce against operators who [32:03] we have currently in place to enforce against operators who [32:03] we have currently in place to enforce against operators who are not permitted? I don't know [32:06] enforce against operators who are not permitted? I don't know [32:06] enforce against operators who are not permitted? I don't know that we have any currently, but [32:08] are not permitted? I don't know that we have any currently, but [32:08] are not permitted? I don't know that we have any currently, but we have had an issue with a [32:09] that we have any currently, but we have had an issue with a [32:09] that we have any currently, but we have had an issue with a particular company that [32:10] we have had an issue with a particular company that [32:10] we have had an issue with a particular company that operates around Cal State [32:12] particular company that operates around Cal State [32:12] particular company that operates around Cal State Northridge that is not [32:14] operates around Cal State Northridge that is not [32:14] operates around Cal State Northridge that is not permitted company. They were [32:15] Northridge that is not permitted company. They were [32:15] Northridge that is not permitted company. They were they had a permit with us [32:17] permitted company. They were they had a permit with us [32:17] permitted company. They were they had a permit with us before, but because they [32:18] they had a permit with us before, but because they [32:18] they had a permit with us before, but because they weren't giving us the proper [32:19] before, but because they weren't giving us the proper [32:19] before, but because they weren't giving us the proper data and their data was it was [32:21] weren't giving us the proper data and their data was it was [32:21] weren't giving us the proper data and their data was it was bad data essentially, so we [32:22] data and their data was it was bad data essentially, so we [32:22] data and their data was it was bad data essentially, so we weren't able to monitor them [32:24] bad data essentially, so we weren't able to monitor them [32:24] bad data essentially, so we weren't able to monitor them properly and they weren't able [32:25] weren't able to monitor them properly and they weren't able [32:25] weren't able to monitor them properly and they weren't able to correct it. We suspended and [32:27] properly and they weren't able to correct it. We suspended and [32:27] properly and they weren't able to correct it. We suspended and eventually did not renew their [32:29] to correct it. We suspended and eventually did not renew their [32:29] to correct it. We suspended and eventually did not renew their license. But we've every once [32:31] eventually did not renew their license. But we've every once [32:31] eventually did not renew their license. But we've every once in a while we hear rumors that, [32:32] license. But we've every once in a while we hear rumors that, [32:32] license. But we've every once in a while we hear rumors that, hey, this company is out here. [32:35] in a while we hear rumors that, hey, this company is out here. [32:35] in a while we hear rumors that, hey, this company is out here. We I haven't checked that and [32:36] hey, this company is out here. We I haven't checked that and [32:36] hey, this company is out here. We I haven't checked that and maybe the last few months, but [32:38] We I haven't checked that and maybe the last few months, but [32:38] We I haven't checked that and maybe the last few months, but it's one company in particular [32:39] maybe the last few months, but it's one company in particular [32:39] maybe the last few months, but it's one company in particular that hangs out around Cal State [32:41] it's one company in particular that hangs out around Cal State [32:41] it's one company in particular that hangs out around Cal State Northridge. And then besides [32:44] that hangs out around Cal State Northridge. And then besides [32:44] that hangs out around Cal State Northridge. And then besides full cost recovery, what are [32:45] Northridge. And then besides full cost recovery, what are [32:45] Northridge. And then besides full cost recovery, what are the current challenges and [32:47] full cost recovery, what are the current challenges and [32:47] full cost recovery, what are the current challenges and opportunities for the city with [32:49] the current challenges and opportunities for the city with [32:49] the current challenges and opportunities for the city with the continuation of this [32:51] opportunities for the city with the continuation of this [32:51] opportunities for the city with the continuation of this program? Well, the continue [32:54] the continuation of this program? Well, the continue [32:55] the continuation of this program? Well, the continue opportunity is that it's it's [32:56] program? Well, the continue opportunity is that it's it's [32:56] program? Well, the continue opportunity is that it's it's as we can see from the [32:57] opportunity is that it's it's as we can see from the [32:57] opportunity is that it's it's as we can see from the ridership, and we do believe [32:59] as we can see from the ridership, and we do believe [32:59] as we can see from the ridership, and we do believe ridership will grow. It's [33:01] ridership, and we do believe ridership will grow. It's [33:01] ridership, and we do believe ridership will grow. It's clearly a last mile solution [33:03] ridership will grow. It's clearly a last mile solution [33:03] ridership will grow. It's clearly a last mile solution for for many users. And so in [33:06] clearly a last mile solution for for many users. And so in [33:06] clearly a last mile solution for for many users. And so in terms of that opportunity, we [33:07] for for many users. And so in terms of that opportunity, we [33:07] for for many users. And so in terms of that opportunity, we think that that's important. [33:09] terms of that opportunity, we think that that's important. [33:09] terms of that opportunity, we think that that's important. The challenge I think for us [33:11] think that that's important. The challenge I think for us [33:11] think that that's important. The challenge I think for us really is, you know, not [33:13] The challenge I think for us really is, you know, not [33:13] The challenge I think for us really is, you know, not necessarily program related, [33:14] really is, you know, not necessarily program related, [33:14] really is, you know, not necessarily program related, but really more about [33:16] necessarily program related, but really more about [33:16] necessarily program related, but really more about infrastructure, because part of [33:17] but really more about infrastructure, because part of [33:18] but really more about infrastructure, because part of what we really feel will help [33:19] infrastructure, because part of what we really feel will help [33:19] infrastructure, because part of what we really feel will help the program really stabilize is [33:22] what we really feel will help the program really stabilize is [33:22] what we really feel will help the program really stabilize is the right kind of [33:23] the program really stabilize is the right kind of [33:23] the program really stabilize is the right kind of infrastructure. And that would [33:24] the right kind of infrastructure. And that would [33:24] the right kind of infrastructure. And that would include for us bike lanes and, [33:26] infrastructure. And that would include for us bike lanes and, [33:26] infrastructure. And that would include for us bike lanes and, and eventually trying to [33:27] include for us bike lanes and, and eventually trying to [33:27] include for us bike lanes and, and eventually trying to develop better parking areas [33:29] and eventually trying to develop better parking areas [33:29] and eventually trying to develop better parking areas for program. And my last [33:33] develop better parking areas for program. And my last [33:33] develop better parking areas for program. And my last question, Madam Chair, what are [33:34] for program. And my last question, Madam Chair, what are [33:34] for program. And my last question, Madam Chair, what are the current permit fees and [33:37] question, Madam Chair, what are the current permit fees and [33:37] question, Madam Chair, what are the current permit fees and other jurisdictions of similar [33:38] the current permit fees and other jurisdictions of similar [33:38] the current permit fees and other jurisdictions of similar size to Los Angeles, like maybe [33:41] other jurisdictions of similar size to Los Angeles, like maybe [33:41] other jurisdictions of similar size to Los Angeles, like maybe Chicago in Chicago, their trip [33:45] size to Los Angeles, like maybe Chicago in Chicago, their trip [33:45] size to Los Angeles, like maybe Chicago in Chicago, their trip fee, I believe it's $250,000 [33:47] Chicago in Chicago, their trip fee, I believe it's $250,000 [33:47] Chicago in Chicago, their trip fee, I believe it's $250,000 for two years, so basically [33:50] fee, I believe it's $250,000 for two years, so basically [33:50] fee, I believe it's $250,000 for two years, so basically $125,000 a year. But it's [33:51] for two years, so basically $125,000 a year. But it's [33:51] for two years, so basically $125,000 a year. But it's really difficult to make the [33:53] $125,000 a year. But it's really difficult to make the [33:53] $125,000 a year. But it's really difficult to make the comparison because it's not [33:54] really difficult to make the comparison because it's not [33:54] really difficult to make the comparison because it's not truly apples to apples. And [33:55] comparison because it's not truly apples to apples. And [33:55] comparison because it's not truly apples to apples. And that's because our program, [33:58] truly apples to apples. And that's because our program, [33:58] truly apples to apples. And that's because our program, unlike many other cities, is a [33:59] that's because our program, unlike many other cities, is a [33:59] that's because our program, unlike many other cities, is a citywide program. What you will [34:01] unlike many other cities, is a citywide program. What you will [34:01] unlike many other cities, is a citywide program. What you will see in many other cities and [34:03] citywide program. What you will see in many other cities and [34:03] citywide program. What you will see in many other cities and jurisdictions is it's limited. [34:04] see in many other cities and jurisdictions is it's limited. [34:04] see in many other cities and jurisdictions is it's limited. You know, it's a downtown [34:05] jurisdictions is it's limited. You know, it's a downtown [34:05] jurisdictions is it's limited. You know, it's a downtown program or it's a program for a [34:07] You know, it's a downtown program or it's a program for a [34:08] You know, it's a downtown program or it's a program for a particular area of the city. [34:09] program or it's a program for a particular area of the city. [34:09] program or it's a program for a particular area of the city. And it's not something that [34:11] particular area of the city. And it's not something that [34:11] particular area of the city. And it's not something that it's throughout the city. Our [34:13] And it's not something that it's throughout the city. Our [34:13] And it's not something that it's throughout the city. Our program is much more varied and [34:14] it's throughout the city. Our program is much more varied and [34:15] it's throughout the city. Our program is much more varied and throughout the city. The other [34:16] program is much more varied and throughout the city. The other [34:16] program is much more varied and throughout the city. The other issue that you will see is we [34:19] throughout the city. The other issue that you will see is we [34:19] throughout the city. The other issue that you will see is we basically we're basically the [34:20] issue that you will see is we basically we're basically the [34:20] issue that you will see is we basically we're basically the standard bearers of the program. [34:21] basically we're basically the standard bearers of the program. [34:21] basically we're basically the standard bearers of the program. We're one of the largest [34:22] standard bearers of the program. We're one of the largest [34:22] standard bearers of the program. We're one of the largest programs. And so when I when we [34:25] We're one of the largest programs. And so when I when we [34:26] We're one of the largest programs. And so when I when we think about that, we look at [34:27] programs. And so when I when we think about that, we look at [34:27] programs. And so when I when we think about that, we look at cities like smaller cities like [34:28] think about that, we look at cities like smaller cities like [34:28] think about that, we look at cities like smaller cities like San Francisco, which has a [34:30] cities like smaller cities like San Francisco, which has a [34:30] cities like smaller cities like San Francisco, which has a significant program. But [34:32] San Francisco, which has a significant program. But [34:32] San Francisco, which has a significant program. But they're these are, I want to [34:34] significant program. But they're these are, I want to [34:34] significant program. But they're these are, I want to say about 80,000 is a permit [34:36] they're these are, I want to say about 80,000 is a permit [34:36] they're these are, I want to say about 80,000 is a permit fee. And then they actually [34:38] say about 80,000 is a permit fee. And then they actually [34:38] say about 80,000 is a permit fee. And then they actually they add an additional about [34:40] fee. And then they actually they add an additional about [34:40] fee. And then they actually they add an additional about the same amount, 80, 90,000 as [34:41] they add an additional about the same amount, 80, 90,000 as [34:41] they add an additional about the same amount, 80, 90,000 as an infrastructure fee because [34:44] the same amount, 80, 90,000 as an infrastructure fee because [34:44] the same amount, 80, 90,000 as an infrastructure fee because they build essentially they [34:46] an infrastructure fee because they build essentially they [34:46] an infrastructure fee because they build essentially they build bike racks in order for [34:48] they build essentially they build bike racks in order for [34:48] they build essentially they build bike racks in order for the vehicles to be locked to [34:49] build bike racks in order for the vehicles to be locked to [34:49] build bike racks in order for the vehicles to be locked to because there's not enough bike [34:51] the vehicles to be locked to because there's not enough bike [34:51] the vehicles to be locked to because there's not enough bike racks in the area. So they [34:52] because there's not enough bike racks in the area. So they [34:52] because there's not enough bike racks in the area. So they charge that amount annually to [34:54] racks in the area. So they charge that amount annually to [34:54] racks in the area. So they charge that amount annually to cover that cost per company. [34:56] charge that amount annually to cover that cost per company. [34:56] charge that amount annually to cover that cost per company. Seattle has a much lower permit [34:59] cover that cost per company. Seattle has a much lower permit [34:59] cover that cost per company. Seattle has a much lower permit fee than we do, but their [35:01] Seattle has a much lower permit fee than we do, but their [35:01] Seattle has a much lower permit fee than we do, but their program is beginning to scale, [35:03] fee than we do, but their program is beginning to scale, [35:03] fee than we do, but their program is beginning to scale, and so we don't know what [35:04] program is beginning to scale, and so we don't know what [35:04] program is beginning to scale, and so we don't know what that's going to look like as [35:06] and so we don't know what that's going to look like as [35:06] and so we don't know what that's going to look like as the years go by or as the year [35:08] that's going to look like as the years go by or as the year [35:08] that's going to look like as the years go by or as the year goes by. But they've been a [35:09] the years go by or as the year goes by. But they've been a [35:09] the years go by or as the year goes by. But they've been a smaller program up until [35:10] goes by. But they've been a smaller program up until [35:10] goes by. But they've been a smaller program up until recently. And similarly with [35:11] smaller program up until recently. And similarly with [35:11] smaller program up until recently. And similarly with Chicago, I believe they will be [35:13] recently. And similarly with Chicago, I believe they will be [35:14] recently. And similarly with Chicago, I believe they will be looking at changing their fees [35:16] Chicago, I believe they will be looking at changing their fees [35:16] Chicago, I believe they will be looking at changing their fees probably around the summer of [35:17] looking at changing their fees probably around the summer of [35:17] looking at changing their fees probably around the summer of this year, this new fiscal year [35:19] probably around the summer of this year, this new fiscal year [35:19] probably around the summer of this year, this new fiscal year 2026, up or down that I don't [35:21] this year, this new fiscal year 2026, up or down that I don't [35:22] this year, this new fiscal year 2026, up or down that I don't know. Okay. That's all. Thank [35:25] 2026, up or down that I don't know. Okay. That's all. Thank [35:25] 2026, up or down that I don't know. Okay. That's all. Thank you. Thank you. I just have a [35:28] know. Okay. That's all. Thank you. Thank you. I just have a [35:28] know. Okay. That's all. Thank you. Thank you. I just have a couple more questions. I'll [35:29] you. Thank you. I just have a couple more questions. I'll [35:29] you. Thank you. I just have a couple more questions. I'll pass it to other colleagues [35:30] couple more questions. I'll pass it to other colleagues [35:30] couple more questions. I'll pass it to other colleagues that might have questions. In [35:33] pass it to other colleagues that might have questions. In [35:33] pass it to other colleagues that might have questions. In your proposed fee structure. [35:35] that might have questions. In your proposed fee structure. [35:35] that might have questions. In your proposed fee structure. Why is the additional fee in [35:36] your proposed fee structure. Why is the additional fee in [35:36] your proposed fee structure. Why is the additional fee in the equity focused zone higher [35:39] Why is the additional fee in the equity focused zone higher [35:39] Why is the additional fee in the equity focused zone higher than the standard permitted [35:40] the equity focused zone higher than the standard permitted [35:41] the equity focused zone higher than the standard permitted district, especially given that [35:43] than the standard permitted district, especially given that [35:43] than the standard permitted district, especially given that equity zones are categorized as [35:45] district, especially given that equity zones are categorized as [35:45] district, especially given that equity zones are categorized as areas with economic and [35:47] equity zones are categorized as areas with economic and [35:47] equity zones are categorized as areas with economic and transportation disadvantages? [35:49] areas with economic and transportation disadvantages? [35:49] areas with economic and transportation disadvantages? Yeah. No, I appreciate that [35:50] transportation disadvantages? Yeah. No, I appreciate that [35:50] transportation disadvantages? Yeah. No, I appreciate that question. The reason is because [35:52] Yeah. No, I appreciate that question. The reason is because [35:52] Yeah. No, I appreciate that question. The reason is because with our analysis, basing it [35:54] question. The reason is because with our analysis, basing it [35:54] question. The reason is because with our analysis, basing it off of the data that we have [35:55] with our analysis, basing it off of the data that we have [35:56] with our analysis, basing it off of the data that we have available for the program, this [35:57] off of the data that we have available for the program, this [35:57] off of the data that we have available for the program, this is what that data shows us, [35:59] available for the program, this is what that data shows us, [35:59] available for the program, this is what that data shows us, that the standard operating [36:02] is what that data shows us, that the standard operating [36:02] is what that data shows us, that the standard operating operation zone would have a [36:03] that the standard operating operation zone would have a [36:03] that the standard operating operation zone would have a slightly higher fee based on [36:04] operation zone would have a slightly higher fee based on [36:04] operation zone would have a slightly higher fee based on the workload that is being done [36:07] slightly higher fee based on the workload that is being done [36:07] slightly higher fee based on the workload that is being done there, and the workload is the [36:10] the workload that is being done there, and the workload is the [36:10] the workload that is being done there, and the workload is the auditing, investigating, [36:12] there, and the workload is the auditing, investigating, [36:12] there, and the workload is the auditing, investigating, picking up. That's what you're [36:14] auditing, investigating, picking up. That's what you're [36:14] auditing, investigating, picking up. That's what you're talking about. Okay. Which I [36:19] picking up. That's what you're talking about. Okay. Which I [36:19] picking up. That's what you're talking about. Okay. Which I understand that. But also like [36:19] talking about. Okay. Which I understand that. But also like [36:19] talking about. Okay. Which I understand that. But also like if it's the the neighborhoods [36:22] understand that. But also like if it's the the neighborhoods [36:22] understand that. But also like if it's the the neighborhoods that have the least access to [36:24] if it's the the neighborhoods that have the least access to [36:24] if it's the the neighborhoods that have the least access to resources, they're probably [36:25] that have the least access to resources, they're probably [36:25] that have the least access to resources, they're probably going to be the higher [36:27] resources, they're probably going to be the higher [36:27] resources, they're probably going to be the higher utilizers than perhaps other [36:28] going to be the higher utilizers than perhaps other [36:28] going to be the higher utilizers than perhaps other neighborhoods. So I would love [36:29] utilizers than perhaps other neighborhoods. So I would love [36:30] utilizers than perhaps other neighborhoods. So I would love to for us to come back to that [36:31] neighborhoods. So I would love to for us to come back to that [36:32] neighborhoods. So I would love to for us to come back to that conversation to figure it out. [36:32] to for us to come back to that conversation to figure it out. [36:33] to for us to come back to that conversation to figure it out. But I want to pass it to my [36:34] conversation to figure it out. But I want to pass it to my [36:35] conversation to figure it out. But I want to pass it to my other colleagues and go ahead. [36:36] But I want to pass it to my other colleagues and go ahead. [36:36] But I want to pass it to my other colleagues and go ahead. Anybody I want to go ahead. Can [36:39] other colleagues and go ahead. Anybody I want to go ahead. Can [36:40] other colleagues and go ahead. Anybody I want to go ahead. Can you elaborate on that? Is it [36:42] Anybody I want to go ahead. Can you elaborate on that? Is it [36:42] Anybody I want to go ahead. Can you elaborate on that? Is it because of the assumption that [36:43] you elaborate on that? Is it because of the assumption that [36:43] you elaborate on that? Is it because of the assumption that there's more use or more pickup? [36:45] because of the assumption that there's more use or more pickup? [36:45] because of the assumption that there's more use or more pickup? Is it that they're more [36:47] there's more use or more pickup? Is it that they're more [36:47] there's more use or more pickup? Is it that they're more scattered so requires more [36:48] Is it that they're more scattered so requires more [36:48] Is it that they're more scattered so requires more staff to pick them up? I mean, [36:50] scattered so requires more staff to pick them up? I mean, [36:50] scattered so requires more staff to pick them up? I mean, it makes no sense to me. I can [36:51] staff to pick them up? I mean, it makes no sense to me. I can [36:51] staff to pick them up? I mean, it makes no sense to me. I can speak to the data, but I would [36:53] it makes no sense to me. I can speak to the data, but I would [36:53] it makes no sense to me. I can speak to the data, but I would look, Jarvis. Yeah, tell us [36:54] speak to the data, but I would look, Jarvis. Yeah, tell us [36:54] speak to the data, but I would look, Jarvis. Yeah, tell us what the data is showing. The [36:56] look, Jarvis. Yeah, tell us what the data is showing. The [36:56] look, Jarvis. Yeah, tell us what the data is showing. The data is showing how this is [36:57] what the data is showing. The data is showing how this is [36:57] what the data is showing. The data is showing how this is broken down here. You'll see [36:59] data is showing how this is broken down here. You'll see [36:59] data is showing how this is broken down here. You'll see that percentage of the average [37:00] broken down here. You'll see that percentage of the average [37:00] broken down here. You'll see that percentage of the average of 311 request in the chart on [37:02] that percentage of the average of 311 request in the chart on [37:03] that percentage of the average of 311 request in the chart on the sixth page of the Cao [37:04] of 311 request in the chart on the sixth page of the Cao [37:04] of 311 request in the chart on the sixth page of the Cao report. And that shows just the [37:06] the sixth page of the Cao report. And that shows just the [37:06] the sixth page of the Cao report. And that shows just the number of 311 requests we're [37:08] report. And that shows just the number of 311 requests we're [37:08] report. And that shows just the number of 311 requests we're getting from these different [37:09] number of 311 requests we're getting from these different [37:09] number of 311 requests we're getting from these different regions. That based out by the [37:12] getting from these different regions. That based out by the [37:12] getting from these different regions. That based out by the the average number of trips for [37:13] regions. That based out by the the average number of trips for [37:13] regions. That based out by the the average number of trips for that region is how we got to [37:15] the average number of trips for that region is how we got to [37:15] the average number of trips for that region is how we got to the fee that we present. So [37:17] that region is how we got to the fee that we present. So [37:17] that region is how we got to the fee that we present. So with that, we're just seeing a [37:19] the fee that we present. So with that, we're just seeing a [37:19] the fee that we present. So with that, we're just seeing a slightly higher amount for the [37:20] with that, we're just seeing a slightly higher amount for the [37:20] with that, we're just seeing a slightly higher amount for the standard area. But if there is [37:22] slightly higher amount for the standard area. But if there is [37:22] slightly higher amount for the standard area. But if there is an interest in the equity [37:24] standard area. But if there is an interest in the equity [37:24] standard area. But if there is an interest in the equity focused zone having a lower fee, [37:25] an interest in the equity focused zone having a lower fee, [37:25] an interest in the equity focused zone having a lower fee, that would just be an [37:26] focused zone having a lower fee, that would just be an [37:26] focused zone having a lower fee, that would just be an additional subsidy from the [37:27] that would just be an additional subsidy from the [37:27] that would just be an additional subsidy from the general fund. I. I want to know [37:33] additional subsidy from the general fund. I. I want to know [37:33] additional subsidy from the general fund. I. I want to know more. This information is a [37:36] general fund. I. I want to know more. This information is a [37:36] general fund. I. I want to know more. This information is a little bit too in the air for [37:37] more. This information is a little bit too in the air for [37:37] more. This information is a little bit too in the air for me. So is it because people are [37:44] little bit too in the air for me. So is it because people are [37:44] little bit too in the air for me. So is it because people are getting the scooter in one [37:46] me. So is it because people are getting the scooter in one [37:46] me. So is it because people are getting the scooter in one location? And then there's more [37:47] getting the scooter in one location? And then there's more [37:47] getting the scooter in one location? And then there's more coming out into these [37:51] location? And then there's more coming out into these [37:51] location? And then there's more coming out into these communities, but there's [37:52] coming out into these communities, but there's [37:52] coming out into these communities, but there's nowhere. So the company is [37:53] communities, but there's nowhere. So the company is [37:53] communities, but there's nowhere. So the company is going in there to pick them up, [37:54] nowhere. So the company is going in there to pick them up, [37:55] nowhere. So the company is going in there to pick them up, and it's more scattered. And [37:56] going in there to pick them up, and it's more scattered. And [37:56] going in there to pick them up, and it's more scattered. And that's what requires more. Well, [37:59] and it's more scattered. And that's what requires more. Well, [37:59] and it's more scattered. And that's what requires more. Well, I mean, I think to me why why [38:03] that's what requires more. Well, I mean, I think to me why why [38:03] that's what requires more. Well, I mean, I think to me why why there is more need for for that. [38:07] I mean, I think to me why why there is more need for for that. [38:07] I mean, I think to me why why there is more need for for that. So what I think it really is, [38:09] there is more need for for that. So what I think it really is, [38:09] there is more need for for that. So what I think it really is, is if you look at the if, if, [38:11] So what I think it really is, is if you look at the if, if, [38:11] So what I think it really is, is if you look at the if, if, look at that end zone, that [38:13] is if you look at the if, if, look at that end zone, that [38:13] is if you look at the if, if, look at that end zone, that actually is the majority of our [38:15] look at that end zone, that actually is the majority of our [38:15] look at that end zone, that actually is the majority of our trips currently. But that I [38:17] actually is the majority of our trips currently. But that I [38:17] actually is the majority of our trips currently. But that I believe is picking them up. No, [38:19] trips currently. But that I believe is picking them up. No, [38:19] trips currently. But that I believe is picking them up. No, the actual user trips in those [38:22] believe is picking them up. No, the actual user trips in those [38:22] believe is picking them up. No, the actual user trips in those areas, even though our special [38:24] the actual user trips in those areas, even though our special [38:24] the actual user trips in those areas, even though our special operations zones are really [38:25] areas, even though our special operations zones are really [38:25] areas, even though our special operations zones are really about density and rules within [38:28] operations zones are really about density and rules within [38:28] operations zones are really about density and rules within those zones and zone, we [38:30] about density and rules within those zones and zone, we [38:30] about density and rules within those zones and zone, we actually have a lot of trips. [38:31] those zones and zone, we actually have a lot of trips. [38:31] those zones and zone, we actually have a lot of trips. The reason for that you'll [38:32] actually have a lot of trips. The reason for that you'll [38:33] actually have a lot of trips. The reason for that you'll often see is because, for [38:35] The reason for that you'll often see is because, for [38:35] The reason for that you'll often see is because, for example, downtown is downtown, [38:37] often see is because, for example, downtown is downtown, [38:37] often see is because, for example, downtown is downtown, but many of the areas [38:38] example, downtown is downtown, but many of the areas [38:38] example, downtown is downtown, but many of the areas surrounding downtown actually [38:40] but many of the areas surrounding downtown actually [38:40] but many of the areas surrounding downtown actually are end zones. So you're [38:42] surrounding downtown actually are end zones. So you're [38:42] surrounding downtown actually are end zones. So you're crossing the jurisdictions [38:43] are end zones. So you're crossing the jurisdictions [38:43] are end zones. So you're crossing the jurisdictions quite often in this particular [38:45] crossing the jurisdictions quite often in this particular [38:45] crossing the jurisdictions quite often in this particular area. Los Angeles is built in a [38:47] quite often in this particular area. Los Angeles is built in a [38:47] quite often in this particular area. Los Angeles is built in a way that, you know, you have [38:49] area. Los Angeles is built in a way that, you know, you have [38:49] area. Los Angeles is built in a way that, you know, you have kind of wealth and lack of [38:51] way that, you know, you have kind of wealth and lack of [38:51] way that, you know, you have kind of wealth and lack of wealth really adjacent to one [38:53] kind of wealth and lack of wealth really adjacent to one [38:53] kind of wealth and lack of wealth really adjacent to one another. So our zones are often [38:55] wealth really adjacent to one another. So our zones are often [38:55] wealth really adjacent to one another. So our zones are often next to, you know, higher [38:58] another. So our zones are often next to, you know, higher [38:58] another. So our zones are often next to, you know, higher income zones, believe it or not. [38:59] next to, you know, higher income zones, believe it or not. [39:00] next to, you know, higher income zones, believe it or not. And that's just kind of the [39:01] income zones, believe it or not. And that's just kind of the [39:01] income zones, believe it or not. And that's just kind of the geography of the way Los [39:02] And that's just kind of the geography of the way Los [39:02] And that's just kind of the geography of the way Los Angeles is. I'm still not [39:06] geography of the way Los Angeles is. I'm still not [39:06] geography of the way Los Angeles is. I'm still not answering my question. So I [39:08] Angeles is. I'm still not answering my question. So I [39:08] Angeles is. I'm still not answering my question. So I guess what I need to know is [39:09] answering my question. So I guess what I need to know is [39:10] answering my question. So I guess what I need to know is elaborate on where people pick [39:11] guess what I need to know is elaborate on where people pick [39:11] guess what I need to know is elaborate on where people pick up a scooter and where people [39:13] elaborate on where people pick up a scooter and where people [39:13] elaborate on where people pick up a scooter and where people drop off scooter, and the cost [39:15] up a scooter and where people drop off scooter, and the cost [39:15] up a scooter and where people drop off scooter, and the cost comes at the pickup. And is [39:17] drop off scooter, and the cost comes at the pickup. And is [39:17] drop off scooter, and the cost comes at the pickup. And is that because there's not enough [39:19] comes at the pickup. And is that because there's not enough [39:19] comes at the pickup. And is that because there's not enough drop off zones in the zones? So [39:22] that because there's not enough drop off zones in the zones? So [39:22] that because there's not enough drop off zones in the zones? So therefore requires more picking [39:24] drop off zones in the zones? So therefore requires more picking [39:24] drop off zones in the zones? So therefore requires more picking up there and then taking it [39:25] therefore requires more picking up there and then taking it [39:25] therefore requires more picking up there and then taking it back to where they originally [39:28] up there and then taking it back to where they originally [39:28] up there and then taking it back to where they originally picked up their scooter, you [39:30] back to where they originally picked up their scooter, you [39:30] back to where they originally picked up their scooter, you know. And that's because that's [39:31] picked up their scooter, you know. And that's because that's [39:31] picked up their scooter, you know. And that's because that's like a conversation we need to [39:32] know. And that's because that's like a conversation we need to [39:32] know. And that's because that's like a conversation we need to have with these companies about [39:33] like a conversation we need to have with these companies about [39:34] like a conversation we need to have with these companies about having more drop off stations [39:34] have with these companies about having more drop off stations [39:35] have with these companies about having more drop off stations so that we don't have to do the [39:36] having more drop off stations so that we don't have to do the [39:36] having more drop off stations so that we don't have to do the work. Right. You know, I'd have [39:38] so that we don't have to do the work. Right. You know, I'd have [39:38] so that we don't have to do the work. Right. You know, I'd have to come back to you with that [39:40] work. Right. You know, I'd have to come back to you with that [39:40] work. Right. You know, I'd have to come back to you with that data. We can get that kind of [39:41] to come back to you with that data. We can get that kind of [39:41] to come back to you with that data. We can get that kind of data for you. I don't have it [39:43] data. We can get that kind of data for you. I don't have it [39:43] data. We can get that kind of data for you. I don't have it off the top of my head today. [39:45] data for you. I don't have it off the top of my head today. [39:45] data for you. I don't have it off the top of my head today. Well, to add some clarifying [39:46] off the top of my head today. Well, to add some clarifying [39:46] off the top of my head today. Well, to add some clarifying points here, the this analysis [39:48] Well, to add some clarifying points here, the this analysis [39:48] Well, to add some clarifying points here, the this analysis is done based on where trips [39:50] points here, the this analysis is done based on where trips [39:50] points here, the this analysis is done based on where trips end, right. The change that Dot [39:52] is done based on where trips end, right. The change that Dot [39:53] is done based on where trips end, right. The change that Dot proposed and that we followed [39:54] end, right. The change that Dot proposed and that we followed [39:54] end, right. The change that Dot proposed and that we followed with our analysis. So what's [39:56] proposed and that we followed with our analysis. So what's [39:56] proposed and that we followed with our analysis. So what's showing here are the number of [39:57] with our analysis. So what's showing here are the number of [39:57] with our analysis. So what's showing here are the number of trips that ended in the [39:59] showing here are the number of trips that ended in the [39:59] showing here are the number of trips that ended in the standard permitted district. [40:00] trips that ended in the standard permitted district. [40:00] trips that ended in the standard permitted district. This may also be tied to if you [40:02] standard permitted district. This may also be tied to if you [40:02] standard permitted district. This may also be tied to if you want to speak to a Jarvis. Just [40:04] This may also be tied to if you want to speak to a Jarvis. Just [40:04] This may also be tied to if you want to speak to a Jarvis. Just the reason for the different [40:06] want to speak to a Jarvis. Just the reason for the different [40:06] want to speak to a Jarvis. Just the reason for the different geographic areas, the [40:07] the reason for the different geographic areas, the [40:07] the reason for the different geographic areas, the difference between the mobility [40:08] geographic areas, the difference between the mobility [40:08] geographic areas, the difference between the mobility development district and the [40:09] difference between the mobility development district and the [40:09] difference between the mobility development district and the standard operation zone or [40:11] development district and the standard operation zone or [40:11] development district and the standard operation zone or excuse me, the standard, the [40:13] standard operation zone or excuse me, the standard, the [40:13] standard operation zone or excuse me, the standard, the standard permanent district. [40:13] excuse me, the standard, the standard permanent district. [40:13] excuse me, the standard, the standard permanent district. Because here's what I'm hearing [40:15] standard permanent district. Because here's what I'm hearing [40:15] standard permanent district. Because here's what I'm hearing when you tell me that it costs [40:16] Because here's what I'm hearing when you tell me that it costs [40:16] Because here's what I'm hearing when you tell me that it costs more in the equity communities, [40:20] when you tell me that it costs more in the equity communities, [40:20] when you tell me that it costs more in the equity communities, it takes me back to when this [40:22] more in the equity communities, it takes me back to when this [40:22] more in the equity communities, it takes me back to when this all started and the nonprofits [40:23] it takes me back to when this all started and the nonprofits [40:23] it takes me back to when this all started and the nonprofits in my district were being asked [40:25] all started and the nonprofits in my district were being asked [40:25] all started and the nonprofits in my district were being asked how we feel about the fact that [40:27] in my district were being asked how we feel about the fact that [40:27] in my district were being asked how we feel about the fact that we don't have them, why the [40:30] how we feel about the fact that we don't have them, why the [40:30] how we feel about the fact that we don't have them, why the company isn't investing in [40:31] we don't have them, why the company isn't investing in [40:31] we don't have them, why the company isn't investing in pickup zones in those regions. [40:33] company isn't investing in pickup zones in those regions. [40:33] company isn't investing in pickup zones in those regions. So it sounds to me like, hey, I [40:36] pickup zones in those regions. So it sounds to me like, hey, I [40:36] pickup zones in those regions. So it sounds to me like, hey, I mean, I've been seeing a lot of [40:37] So it sounds to me like, hey, I mean, I've been seeing a lot of [40:37] So it sounds to me like, hey, I mean, I've been seeing a lot of young people start to use these [40:39] mean, I've been seeing a lot of young people start to use these [40:39] mean, I've been seeing a lot of young people start to use these in my district, and I wonder, [40:40] young people start to use these in my district, and I wonder, [40:40] young people start to use these in my district, and I wonder, where did you get it? So [40:42] in my district, and I wonder, where did you get it? So [40:42] in my district, and I wonder, where did you get it? So they're probably taking public [40:43] where did you get it? So they're probably taking public [40:44] where did you get it? So they're probably taking public transportation, maybe to [40:45] they're probably taking public transportation, maybe to [40:45] they're probably taking public transportation, maybe to downtown, richer areas where [40:46] transportation, maybe to downtown, richer areas where [40:46] transportation, maybe to downtown, richer areas where there's work, more things to do, [40:49] downtown, richer areas where there's work, more things to do, [40:49] downtown, richer areas where there's work, more things to do, get the scooter ride back home. [40:52] there's work, more things to do, get the scooter ride back home. [40:52] there's work, more things to do, get the scooter ride back home. But you're telling me that [40:53] get the scooter ride back home. But you're telling me that [40:53] get the scooter ride back home. But you're telling me that they're paying more once they [40:55] But you're telling me that they're paying more once they [40:55] But you're telling me that they're paying more once they arrive home, so to speak, where? [40:58] they're paying more once they arrive home, so to speak, where? [40:58] they're paying more once they arrive home, so to speak, where? Where my district is. So it [40:59] arrive home, so to speak, where? Where my district is. So it [40:59] arrive home, so to speak, where? Where my district is. So it sounds like the only way we're [41:01] Where my district is. So it sounds like the only way we're [41:01] Where my district is. So it sounds like the only way we're going to potentially be able to [41:02] sounds like the only way we're going to potentially be able to [41:02] sounds like the only way we're going to potentially be able to lower it in the equity zones, [41:04] going to potentially be able to lower it in the equity zones, [41:04] going to potentially be able to lower it in the equity zones, if the company themselves [41:05] lower it in the equity zones, if the company themselves [41:05] lower it in the equity zones, if the company themselves starts to invest in zone in [41:09] if the company themselves starts to invest in zone in [41:09] if the company themselves starts to invest in zone in locations within these these [41:11] starts to invest in zone in locations within these these [41:11] starts to invest in zone in locations within these these locations, instead of only [41:12] locations within these these locations, instead of only [41:12] locations within these these locations, instead of only having them in the more [41:14] locations, instead of only having them in the more [41:14] locations, instead of only having them in the more affluent regions. Well, we are [41:17] having them in the more affluent regions. Well, we are [41:17] having them in the more affluent regions. Well, we are trying to incentivize the [41:19] affluent regions. Well, we are trying to incentivize the [41:19] affluent regions. Well, we are trying to incentivize the deployment and outside zones. [41:21] trying to incentivize the deployment and outside zones. [41:21] trying to incentivize the deployment and outside zones. So the reason that's actually [41:22] deployment and outside zones. So the reason that's actually [41:22] deployment and outside zones. So the reason that's actually one of the reasons the the [41:24] So the reason that's actually one of the reasons the the [41:24] So the reason that's actually one of the reasons the the graphs are done the way that [41:25] one of the reasons the the graphs are done the way that [41:25] one of the reasons the the graphs are done the way that they are, the, the the lower [41:27] graphs are done the way that they are, the, the the lower [41:27] graphs are done the way that they are, the, the the lower income zones, the efmd, the [41:29] they are, the, the the lower income zones, the efmd, the [41:29] they are, the, the the lower income zones, the efmd, the reason that we had it being [41:31] income zones, the efmd, the reason that we had it being [41:31] income zones, the efmd, the reason that we had it being three currently is because we [41:33] reason that we had it being three currently is because we [41:33] reason that we had it being three currently is because we wanted to incentivize [41:34] three currently is because we wanted to incentivize [41:34] three currently is because we wanted to incentivize deployment and trips in those [41:35] wanted to incentivize deployment and trips in those [41:35] wanted to incentivize deployment and trips in those zones. Right now, the way that [41:37] deployment and trips in those zones. Right now, the way that [41:38] deployment and trips in those zones. Right now, the way that it's structured is we would [41:39] zones. Right now, the way that it's structured is we would [41:39] zones. Right now, the way that it's structured is we would give you the benefit of the the [41:41] it's structured is we would give you the benefit of the the [41:41] it's structured is we would give you the benefit of the the least expensive zone. So if you [41:43] give you the benefit of the the least expensive zone. So if you [41:43] give you the benefit of the the least expensive zone. So if you came from a higher cost area to [41:45] least expensive zone. So if you came from a higher cost area to [41:45] least expensive zone. So if you came from a higher cost area to a lower cost area, we would [41:47] came from a higher cost area to a lower cost area, we would [41:47] came from a higher cost area to a lower cost area, we would give you the benefit of the [41:48] a lower cost area, we would give you the benefit of the [41:48] a lower cost area, we would give you the benefit of the lower cost area or vice versa. [41:50] give you the benefit of the lower cost area or vice versa. [41:51] give you the benefit of the lower cost area or vice versa. But what we determined was, you [41:52] lower cost area or vice versa. But what we determined was, you [41:52] lower cost area or vice versa. But what we determined was, you know, again, because we're not [41:54] But what we determined was, you know, again, because we're not [41:54] But what we determined was, you know, again, because we're not recovering our costs. And to be [41:56] know, again, because we're not recovering our costs. And to be [41:56] know, again, because we're not recovering our costs. And to be clear, these costs go directly [41:57] recovering our costs. And to be clear, these costs go directly [41:57] recovering our costs. And to be clear, these costs go directly to the companies. This isn't a [41:59] clear, these costs go directly to the companies. This isn't a [41:59] clear, these costs go directly to the companies. This isn't a cost that we put on the [42:01] to the companies. This isn't a cost that we put on the [42:01] to the companies. This isn't a cost that we put on the consumers to the company, but [42:03] cost that we put on the consumers to the company, but [42:03] cost that we put on the consumers to the company, but in order, you know, so what we [42:05] consumers to the company, but in order, you know, so what we [42:05] consumers to the company, but in order, you know, so what we did see is we do see a lot of [42:07] in order, you know, so what we did see is we do see a lot of [42:07] in order, you know, so what we did see is we do see a lot of trips in those zones, but those [42:09] did see is we do see a lot of trips in those zones, but those [42:09] did see is we do see a lot of trips in those zones, but those are actually our free zones, [42:10] trips in those zones, but those are actually our free zones, [42:10] trips in those zones, but those are actually our free zones, and we are not getting any [42:11] are actually our free zones, and we are not getting any [42:11] are actually our free zones, and we are not getting any revenue from those free zones. [42:13] and we are not getting any revenue from those free zones. [42:13] and we are not getting any revenue from those free zones. So part of what we're trying to [42:15] revenue from those free zones. So part of what we're trying to [42:15] revenue from those free zones. So part of what we're trying to do now is make a change so that [42:16] So part of what we're trying to do now is make a change so that [42:17] So part of what we're trying to do now is make a change so that when you if you're going to end [42:18] do now is make a change so that when you if you're going to end [42:18] do now is make a change so that when you if you're going to end a trip in those lower zones, [42:20] when you if you're going to end a trip in those lower zones, [42:20] when you if you're going to end a trip in those lower zones, it's still going to be cheaper [42:21] a trip in those lower zones, it's still going to be cheaper [42:21] a trip in those lower zones, it's still going to be cheaper for you. But if you're picking [42:23] it's still going to be cheaper for you. But if you're picking [42:23] it's still going to be cheaper for you. But if you're picking up those zones and ending at a [42:24] for you. But if you're picking up those zones and ending at a [42:24] for you. But if you're picking up those zones and ending at a higher zone, it's going to be [42:26] up those zones and ending at a higher zone, it's going to be [42:26] up those zones and ending at a higher zone, it's going to be more expensive now than what it [42:27] higher zone, it's going to be more expensive now than what it [42:27] higher zone, it's going to be more expensive now than what it used to be. So that's that's [42:29] more expensive now than what it used to be. So that's that's [42:29] more expensive now than what it used to be. So that's that's our goal. Okay. Yeah, yeah. I [42:31] used to be. So that's that's our goal. Okay. Yeah, yeah. I [42:31] used to be. So that's that's our goal. Okay. Yeah, yeah. I think we need to put this [42:33] our goal. Okay. Yeah, yeah. I think we need to put this [42:33] our goal. Okay. Yeah, yeah. I think we need to put this structure the fees in a way [42:35] think we need to put this structure the fees in a way [42:35] think we need to put this structure the fees in a way where they are also [42:36] structure the fees in a way where they are also [42:36] structure the fees in a way where they are also incentivized to to have more [42:40] where they are also incentivized to to have more [42:40] where they are also incentivized to to have more locations in the zones. So I [42:43] incentivized to to have more locations in the zones. So I [42:43] incentivized to to have more locations in the zones. So I have a question. Jarvis, are [42:45] locations in the zones. So I have a question. Jarvis, are [42:45] locations in the zones. So I have a question. Jarvis, are you saying that if I pick up a [42:51] have a question. Jarvis, are you saying that if I pick up a [42:51] have a question. Jarvis, are you saying that if I pick up a scooter in Westlake and take it [42:55] you saying that if I pick up a scooter in Westlake and take it [42:55] you saying that if I pick up a scooter in Westlake and take it to. It looks like Highland Park [43:02] scooter in Westlake and take it to. It looks like Highland Park [43:02] scooter in Westlake and take it to. It looks like Highland Park in my district, that at the end [43:05] to. It looks like Highland Park in my district, that at the end [43:05] to. It looks like Highland Park in my district, that at the end of that trip I'm going to pay [43:07] in my district, that at the end of that trip I'm going to pay [43:07] in my district, that at the end of that trip I'm going to pay the higher fee because I'm [43:09] of that trip I'm going to pay the higher fee because I'm [43:09] of that trip I'm going to pay the higher fee because I'm getting dropped off in mobility [43:12] the higher fee because I'm getting dropped off in mobility [43:12] the higher fee because I'm getting dropped off in mobility development district. So to be [43:14] getting dropped off in mobility development district. So to be [43:14] getting dropped off in mobility development district. So to be clear, we we do not manage the [43:16] development district. So to be clear, we we do not manage the [43:16] development district. So to be clear, we we do not manage the fees to the customer. No, no, [43:18] clear, we we do not manage the fees to the customer. No, no, [43:18] clear, we we do not manage the fees to the customer. No, no, no, I know I understand that [43:19] fees to the customer. No, no, no, I know I understand that [43:19] fees to the customer. No, no, no, I know I understand that part. I want to understand the [43:21] no, I know I understand that part. I want to understand the [43:21] no, I know I understand that part. I want to understand the application of the cost. Like [43:22] part. I want to understand the application of the cost. Like [43:22] part. I want to understand the application of the cost. Like is it like and how if I'm [43:25] application of the cost. Like is it like and how if I'm [43:25] application of the cost. Like is it like and how if I'm starting in a lower income [43:26] is it like and how if I'm starting in a lower income [43:26] is it like and how if I'm starting in a lower income neighborhood and ending up in a [43:27] starting in a lower income neighborhood and ending up in a [43:27] starting in a lower income neighborhood and ending up in a higher income neighborhood, [43:28] neighborhood and ending up in a higher income neighborhood, [43:28] neighborhood and ending up in a higher income neighborhood, where the where the the the [43:29] higher income neighborhood, where the where the the the [43:30] higher income neighborhood, where the where the the the cost is higher, does that mean [43:31] where the where the the the cost is higher, does that mean [43:31] where the where the the the cost is higher, does that mean that I'm going to end up paying [43:33] cost is higher, does that mean that I'm going to end up paying [43:33] cost is higher, does that mean that I'm going to end up paying the higher cost? Is that what [43:34] that I'm going to end up paying the higher cost? Is that what [43:34] that I'm going to end up paying the higher cost? Is that what you said the company would pay [43:36] the higher cost? Is that what you said the company would pay [43:36] the higher cost? Is that what you said the company would pay a higher trip fee? Yes. So [43:37] you said the company would pay a higher trip fee? Yes. So [43:37] you said the company would pay a higher trip fee? Yes. So wouldn't that mean that could [43:39] a higher trip fee? Yes. So wouldn't that mean that could [43:39] a higher trip fee? Yes. So wouldn't that mean that could prevent lower income people [43:40] wouldn't that mean that could prevent lower income people [43:40] wouldn't that mean that could prevent lower income people from traveling to these places? [43:42] prevent lower income people from traveling to these places? [43:42] prevent lower income people from traveling to these places? If they don't have the money to [43:44] from traveling to these places? If they don't have the money to [43:44] from traveling to these places? If they don't have the money to pay the higher fee? Not [43:46] If they don't have the money to pay the higher fee? Not [43:46] If they don't have the money to pay the higher fee? Not necessarily. And that's really [43:46] pay the higher fee? Not necessarily. And that's really [43:46] pay the higher fee? Not necessarily. And that's really a question for the companies, [43:48] necessarily. And that's really a question for the companies, [43:48] necessarily. And that's really a question for the companies, because we do we do not control [43:50] a question for the companies, because we do we do not control [43:50] a question for the companies, because we do we do not control how they distribute their own [43:51] because we do we do not control how they distribute their own [43:51] because we do we do not control how they distribute their own costs. They are a business and [43:54] how they distribute their own costs. They are a business and [43:54] how they distribute their own costs. They are a business and they can make that [43:55] costs. They are a business and they can make that [43:55] costs. They are a business and they can make that determination. I'm certain they [43:56] they can make that determination. I'm certain they [43:56] they can make that determination. I'm certain they have algorithms for figuring [43:58] determination. I'm certain they have algorithms for figuring [43:58] determination. I'm certain they have algorithms for figuring out how and where they can [43:59] have algorithms for figuring out how and where they can [43:59] have algorithms for figuring out how and where they can charge and what, but because [44:01] out how and where they can charge and what, but because [44:01] out how and where they can charge and what, but because they're a private business, we [44:02] charge and what, but because they're a private business, we [44:02] charge and what, but because they're a private business, we do stay out of that, out of [44:04] they're a private business, we do stay out of that, out of [44:04] they're a private business, we do stay out of that, out of that mechanism. So that last [44:06] do stay out of that, out of that mechanism. So that last [44:06] do stay out of that, out of that mechanism. So that last sentence means that we had [44:07] that mechanism. So that last sentence means that we had [44:07] that mechanism. So that last sentence means that we had nothing to do with these [44:08] sentence means that we had nothing to do with these [44:08] sentence means that we had nothing to do with these numbers in these bars around [44:10] nothing to do with these numbers in these bars around [44:10] nothing to do with these numbers in these bars around the 42 to 58, the 38, the 186. [44:14] numbers in these bars around the 42 to 58, the 38, the 186. [44:14] numbers in these bars around the 42 to 58, the 38, the 186. No, those fees do come directly [44:17] the 42 to 58, the 38, the 186. No, those fees do come directly [44:17] the 42 to 58, the 38, the 186. No, those fees do come directly to us. That's that's a charge [44:18] No, those fees do come directly to us. That's that's a charge [44:18] No, those fees do come directly to us. That's that's a charge to the company. And so that's [44:20] to us. That's that's a charge to the company. And so that's [44:20] to us. That's that's a charge to the company. And so that's what I'm asking about. Like, is [44:23] to the company. And so that's what I'm asking about. Like, is [44:23] to the company. And so that's what I'm asking about. Like, is this a cost like these fees are [44:25] what I'm asking about. Like, is this a cost like these fees are [44:25] what I'm asking about. Like, is this a cost like these fees are what we apply to the company, [44:27] this a cost like these fees are what we apply to the company, [44:27] this a cost like these fees are what we apply to the company, correct? Correct. Yes. And [44:29] what we apply to the company, correct? Correct. Yes. And [44:29] what we apply to the company, correct? Correct. Yes. And these is any of this cost [44:31] correct? Correct. Yes. And these is any of this cost [44:31] correct? Correct. Yes. And these is any of this cost translate to the rider? Yes. [44:34] these is any of this cost translate to the rider? Yes. [44:34] these is any of this cost translate to the rider? Yes. That's right. I'd have to [44:36] translate to the rider? Yes. That's right. I'd have to [44:36] translate to the rider? Yes. That's right. I'd have to speculate about it. That's [44:37] That's right. I'd have to speculate about it. That's [44:37] That's right. I'd have to speculate about it. That's directly a company question. It [44:40] speculate about it. That's directly a company question. It [44:40] speculate about it. That's directly a company question. It could. Okay. Well one of my one [44:42] directly a company question. It could. Okay. Well one of my one [44:42] directly a company question. It could. Okay. Well one of my one of my questions is what is our [44:44] could. Okay. Well one of my one of my questions is what is our [44:44] could. Okay. Well one of my one of my questions is what is our relationship with the company [44:45] of my questions is what is our relationship with the company [44:45] of my questions is what is our relationship with the company if we're not if we don't have [44:47] relationship with the company if we're not if we don't have [44:47] relationship with the company if we're not if we don't have access to this information, can [44:48] if we're not if we don't have access to this information, can [44:48] if we're not if we don't have access to this information, can we go and ask them these [44:49] access to this information, can we go and ask them these [44:49] access to this information, can we go and ask them these questions? Do you all go and [44:51] we go and ask them these questions? Do you all go and [44:51] we go and ask them these questions? Do you all go and ask them these questions? We we [44:52] questions? Do you all go and ask them these questions? We we [44:52] questions? Do you all go and ask them these questions? We we could ask them these questions. [44:54] ask them these questions? We we could ask them these questions. [44:54] ask them these questions? We we could ask them these questions. Yes. Well, I hope that they're [44:55] could ask them these questions. Yes. Well, I hope that they're [44:55] could ask them these questions. Yes. Well, I hope that they're here and would love to have [44:57] Yes. Well, I hope that they're here and would love to have [44:57] Yes. Well, I hope that they're here and would love to have that conversation because I [44:58] here and would love to have that conversation because I [44:58] here and would love to have that conversation because I would like to understand more [44:59] that conversation because I would like to understand more [44:59] that conversation because I would like to understand more of that part. And I know we're [45:01] would like to understand more of that part. And I know we're [45:01] would like to understand more of that part. And I know we're running out of time, and I know [45:02] of that part. And I know we're running out of time, and I know [45:02] of that part. And I know we're running out of time, and I know that we're asking a lot of [45:04] running out of time, and I know that we're asking a lot of [45:04] running out of time, and I know that we're asking a lot of questions, but this really is [45:05] that we're asking a lot of questions, but this really is [45:05] that we're asking a lot of questions, but this really is really important to a lot of [45:07] questions, but this really is really important to a lot of [45:07] questions, but this really is really important to a lot of our communities because it is [45:08] really important to a lot of our communities because it is [45:08] really important to a lot of our communities because it is first and last mile. I'll pass [45:09] our communities because it is first and last mile. I'll pass [45:09] our communities because it is first and last mile. I'll pass it to my council colleague [45:12] first and last mile. I'll pass it to my council colleague [45:12] first and last mile. I'll pass it to my council colleague Nazarian to ask questions, and [45:13] it to my council colleague Nazarian to ask questions, and [45:13] it to my council colleague Nazarian to ask questions, and then I might have some more to [45:15] Nazarian to ask questions, and then I might have some more to [45:15] Nazarian to ask questions, and then I might have some more to finish up. But thank you and I [45:18] then I might have some more to finish up. But thank you and I [45:18] then I might have some more to finish up. But thank you and I appreciate all the questions [45:19] finish up. But thank you and I appreciate all the questions [45:19] finish up. But thank you and I appreciate all the questions that are being asked on this, [45:21] appreciate all the questions that are being asked on this, [45:21] appreciate all the questions that are being asked on this, and somewhat relevant, but [45:23] that are being asked on this, and somewhat relevant, but [45:23] that are being asked on this, and somewhat relevant, but tangential to what we're [45:25] and somewhat relevant, but tangential to what we're [45:25] and somewhat relevant, but tangential to what we're talking about. Something that [45:27] tangential to what we're talking about. Something that [45:27] tangential to what we're talking about. Something that concerns me a great deal is [45:29] talking about. Something that concerns me a great deal is [45:29] talking about. Something that concerns me a great deal is liability. And as we see what [45:31] concerns me a great deal is liability. And as we see what [45:31] concerns me a great deal is liability. And as we see what the costs to the city are. So [45:35] liability. And as we see what the costs to the city are. So [45:35] liability. And as we see what the costs to the city are. So by making changes here, nothing [45:38] the costs to the city are. So by making changes here, nothing [45:38] the costs to the city are. So by making changes here, nothing on the liability part changes. [45:42] by making changes here, nothing on the liability part changes. [45:42] by making changes here, nothing on the liability part changes. Correct. That's wanted for the [45:44] on the liability part changes. Correct. That's wanted for the [45:44] on the liability part changes. Correct. That's wanted for the record. Yes. That's correct. [45:45] Correct. That's wanted for the record. Yes. That's correct. [45:45] Correct. That's wanted for the record. Yes. That's correct. Okay. Because whatever [45:47] record. Yes. That's correct. Okay. Because whatever [45:47] record. Yes. That's correct. Okay. Because whatever agreements that were in place [45:48] Okay. Because whatever agreements that were in place [45:48] Okay. Because whatever agreements that were in place have protected the city very [45:49] agreements that were in place have protected the city very [45:49] agreements that were in place have protected the city very well. And I want to make sure [45:51] have protected the city very well. And I want to make sure [45:51] have protected the city very well. And I want to make sure that that is not in any way [45:53] well. And I want to make sure that that is not in any way [45:53] well. And I want to make sure that that is not in any way infringed upon or changed or [45:56] that that is not in any way infringed upon or changed or [45:56] that that is not in any way infringed upon or changed or potentially even watered down. [45:59] infringed upon or changed or potentially even watered down. [45:59] infringed upon or changed or potentially even watered down. So that's one. Two. And again, [46:04] potentially even watered down. So that's one. Two. And again, [46:04] potentially even watered down. So that's one. Two. And again, this is tangential, and I [46:06] So that's one. Two. And again, this is tangential, and I [46:06] So that's one. Two. And again, this is tangential, and I apologize that I didn't get a [46:07] this is tangential, and I apologize that I didn't get a [46:07] this is tangential, and I apologize that I didn't get a chance to talk to you before [46:08] apologize that I didn't get a chance to talk to you before [46:08] apologize that I didn't get a chance to talk to you before this committee hearing. But [46:11] chance to talk to you before this committee hearing. But [46:11] chance to talk to you before this committee hearing. But when we are looking at [46:13] this committee hearing. But when we are looking at [46:13] this committee hearing. But when we are looking at expanding, we are looking at [46:15] when we are looking at expanding, we are looking at [46:15] when we are looking at expanding, we are looking at potentially having a larger [46:18] expanding, we are looking at potentially having a larger [46:18] expanding, we are looking at potentially having a larger presence and footprint. We're [46:23] potentially having a larger presence and footprint. We're [46:23] potentially having a larger presence and footprint. We're going to expect more injuries. [46:26] presence and footprint. We're going to expect more injuries. [46:26] presence and footprint. We're going to expect more injuries. We're going to expect more [46:30] going to expect more injuries. We're going to expect more [46:30] going to expect more injuries. We're going to expect more events of people because of [46:34] We're going to expect more events of people because of [46:34] We're going to expect more events of people because of sidewalk use or ill repaired [46:38] events of people because of sidewalk use or ill repaired [46:38] events of people because of sidewalk use or ill repaired disrepair, street circumstances [46:41] sidewalk use or ill repaired disrepair, street circumstances [46:41] sidewalk use or ill repaired disrepair, street circumstances to whatever the other issues [46:43] disrepair, street circumstances to whatever the other issues [46:43] disrepair, street circumstances to whatever the other issues are. One of them also being a [46:45] to whatever the other issues are. One of them also being a [46:45] to whatever the other issues are. One of them also being a big contributor. People riding [46:47] are. One of them also being a big contributor. People riding [46:47] are. One of them also being a big contributor. People riding these scooters while inebriated. [46:50] big contributor. People riding these scooters while inebriated. [46:50] big contributor. People riding these scooters while inebriated. So are we as a city and as a [46:54] these scooters while inebriated. So are we as a city and as a [46:54] these scooters while inebriated. So are we as a city and as a department, looking at [46:57] So are we as a city and as a department, looking at [46:57] So are we as a city and as a department, looking at opportunities, especially when [46:58] department, looking at opportunities, especially when [46:58] department, looking at opportunities, especially when some of these trip and some of [47:01] opportunities, especially when some of these trip and some of [47:01] opportunities, especially when some of these trip and some of these accidents occur later at [47:05] some of these trip and some of these accidents occur later at [47:05] some of these trip and some of these accidents occur later at night when people are [47:07] these accidents occur later at night when people are [47:07] these accidents occur later at night when people are inebriated. I mean, studies [47:08] night when people are inebriated. I mean, studies [47:08] night when people are inebriated. I mean, studies have shown 25% of the injuries [47:11] inebriated. I mean, studies have shown 25% of the injuries [47:11] inebriated. I mean, studies have shown 25% of the injuries come from inebriated [47:13] have shown 25% of the injuries come from inebriated [47:14] have shown 25% of the injuries come from inebriated circumstances. Are we looking [47:15] come from inebriated circumstances. Are we looking [47:15] come from inebriated circumstances. Are we looking at ways that we can reduce some [47:19] circumstances. Are we looking at ways that we can reduce some [47:19] circumstances. Are we looking at ways that we can reduce some of these accidents and impacts [47:22] at ways that we can reduce some of these accidents and impacts [47:22] at ways that we can reduce some of these accidents and impacts by having these scooters have [47:25] of these accidents and impacts by having these scooters have [47:25] of these accidents and impacts by having these scooters have some kind of a test mechanism, [47:27] by having these scooters have some kind of a test mechanism, [47:27] by having these scooters have some kind of a test mechanism, or has the company, the various [47:31] some kind of a test mechanism, or has the company, the various [47:31] some kind of a test mechanism, or has the company, the various companies been talking about [47:32] or has the company, the various companies been talking about [47:33] or has the company, the various companies been talking about this? What steps have we taken [47:34] companies been talking about this? What steps have we taken [47:34] companies been talking about this? What steps have we taken to try to address this issue as [47:37] this? What steps have we taken to try to address this issue as [47:37] this? What steps have we taken to try to address this issue as well, so that as the numbers of [47:39] to try to address this issue as well, so that as the numbers of [47:39] to try to address this issue as well, so that as the numbers of usage grows, we don't expand [47:43] well, so that as the numbers of usage grows, we don't expand [47:43] well, so that as the numbers of usage grows, we don't expand the number of traumatic [47:45] usage grows, we don't expand the number of traumatic [47:45] usage grows, we don't expand the number of traumatic injuries as well. So we have [47:49] the number of traumatic injuries as well. So we have [47:49] the number of traumatic injuries as well. So we have looked at some things related [47:51] injuries as well. So we have looked at some things related [47:51] injuries as well. So we have looked at some things related to sidewalk writing and [47:53] looked at some things related to sidewalk writing and [47:53] looked at some things related to sidewalk writing and technology related to that. We [47:55] to sidewalk writing and technology related to that. We [47:55] to sidewalk writing and technology related to that. We haven't gotten to a place where [47:57] technology related to that. We haven't gotten to a place where [47:57] technology related to that. We haven't gotten to a place where we found a scalable solution as [48:00] haven't gotten to a place where we found a scalable solution as [48:00] haven't gotten to a place where we found a scalable solution as of yet for that type of thing. [48:01] we found a scalable solution as of yet for that type of thing. [48:01] we found a scalable solution as of yet for that type of thing. And as it relates to inebriated [48:03] of yet for that type of thing. And as it relates to inebriated [48:04] of yet for that type of thing. And as it relates to inebriated riders, that's something we can [48:05] And as it relates to inebriated riders, that's something we can [48:05] And as it relates to inebriated riders, that's something we can work with the LAPD on, because [48:07] riders, that's something we can work with the LAPD on, because [48:08] riders, that's something we can work with the LAPD on, because obviously we don't have the [48:09] work with the LAPD on, because obviously we don't have the [48:09] work with the LAPD on, because obviously we don't have the authority to to stop a person [48:10] obviously we don't have the authority to to stop a person [48:10] obviously we don't have the authority to to stop a person on a scooter while riding. But [48:12] authority to to stop a person on a scooter while riding. But [48:12] authority to to stop a person on a scooter while riding. But but they would. And so I think [48:14] on a scooter while riding. But but they would. And so I think [48:14] on a scooter while riding. But but they would. And so I think we could work with them to [48:15] but they would. And so I think we could work with them to [48:16] but they would. And so I think we could work with them to develop what kind of policies [48:17] we could work with them to develop what kind of policies [48:18] we could work with them to develop what kind of policies they think would be helpful in [48:20] develop what kind of policies they think would be helpful in [48:20] develop what kind of policies they think would be helpful in that. But that's hit and miss. [48:21] they think would be helpful in that. But that's hit and miss. [48:22] they think would be helpful in that. But that's hit and miss. So what I'm saying is, can [48:23] that. But that's hit and miss. So what I'm saying is, can [48:23] that. But that's hit and miss. So what I'm saying is, can there be some kind of a lock [48:25] So what I'm saying is, can there be some kind of a lock [48:25] So what I'm saying is, can there be some kind of a lock system? Exactly on the unit [48:31] there be some kind of a lock system? Exactly on the unit [48:31] there be some kind of a lock system? Exactly on the unit itself, the scooter itself, so [48:32] system? Exactly on the unit itself, the scooter itself, so [48:32] system? Exactly on the unit itself, the scooter itself, so that, you know, before being [48:35] itself, the scooter itself, so that, you know, before being [48:36] itself, the scooter itself, so that, you know, before being able to utilize it, you need to [48:38] that, you know, before being able to utilize it, you need to [48:38] that, you know, before being able to utilize it, you need to take that test, whether [48:40] able to utilize it, you need to take that test, whether [48:40] able to utilize it, you need to take that test, whether breathalyzer or whatever it [48:41] take that test, whether breathalyzer or whatever it [48:41] take that test, whether breathalyzer or whatever it whatever the circumstances, but [48:43] breathalyzer or whatever it whatever the circumstances, but [48:43] breathalyzer or whatever it whatever the circumstances, but something that allows or [48:45] whatever the circumstances, but something that allows or [48:45] whatever the circumstances, but something that allows or geofencing so that there are [48:48] something that allows or geofencing so that there are [48:48] something that allows or geofencing so that there are protections built in to the [48:50] geofencing so that there are protections built in to the [48:50] geofencing so that there are protections built in to the system. Have there been [48:51] protections built in to the system. Have there been [48:51] protections built in to the system. Have there been discussions about this, to be [48:54] system. Have there been discussions about this, to be [48:54] system. Have there been discussions about this, to be frank? No. So I do think we can [48:56] discussions about this, to be frank? No. So I do think we can [48:56] discussions about this, to be frank? No. So I do think we can begin those discussions. [48:57] frank? No. So I do think we can begin those discussions. [48:57] frank? No. So I do think we can begin those discussions. Obviously, the companies are [48:58] begin those discussions. Obviously, the companies are [48:58] begin those discussions. Obviously, the companies are here. This will be equipment [49:00] Obviously, the companies are here. This will be equipment [49:00] Obviously, the companies are here. This will be equipment that they would have to employ [49:02] here. This will be equipment that they would have to employ [49:02] here. This will be equipment that they would have to employ on their devices, but we can [49:03] that they would have to employ on their devices, but we can [49:03] that they would have to employ on their devices, but we can have the discussions with them [49:05] on their devices, but we can have the discussions with them [49:05] on their devices, but we can have the discussions with them and to even see how that works [49:06] have the discussions with them and to even see how that works [49:06] have the discussions with them and to even see how that works and find out if other cities [49:08] and to even see how that works and find out if other cities [49:08] and to even see how that works and find out if other cities have something similar like [49:10] and find out if other cities have something similar like [49:10] and find out if other cities have something similar like that. Again, I my intention [49:12] have something similar like that. Again, I my intention [49:12] have something similar like that. Again, I my intention wasn't to blindside anyone, but [49:13] that. Again, I my intention wasn't to blindside anyone, but [49:13] that. Again, I my intention wasn't to blindside anyone, but I wanted to discuss this, so I. [49:17] wasn't to blindside anyone, but I wanted to discuss this, so I. [49:17] wasn't to blindside anyone, but I wanted to discuss this, so I. I'm very curious and interested [49:18] I wanted to discuss this, so I. I'm very curious and interested [49:18] I wanted to discuss this, so I. I'm very curious and interested to know if they've been taking [49:21] I'm very curious and interested to know if they've been taking [49:21] I'm very curious and interested to know if they've been taking steps, if they've done [49:21] to know if they've been taking steps, if they've done [49:21] to know if they've been taking steps, if they've done something similar to that in [49:23] steps, if they've done something similar to that in [49:23] steps, if they've done something similar to that in other cities. Because again, as [49:25] something similar to that in other cities. Because again, as [49:25] something similar to that in other cities. Because again, as we increase usage, I don't want [49:26] other cities. Because again, as we increase usage, I don't want [49:26] other cities. Because again, as we increase usage, I don't want to see a increase in our [49:28] we increase usage, I don't want to see a increase in our [49:29] we increase usage, I don't want to see a increase in our emergency rooms either. Thank [49:30] to see a increase in our emergency rooms either. Thank [49:30] to see a increase in our emergency rooms either. Thank you. Thank you so much. I have [49:34] emergency rooms either. Thank you. Thank you so much. I have [49:34] emergency rooms either. Thank you. Thank you so much. I have a couple questions. Marzett I [49:35] you. Thank you so much. I have a couple questions. Marzett I [49:35] you. Thank you so much. I have a couple questions. Marzett I yield, how did you did? And [49:39] a couple questions. Marzett I yield, how did you did? And [49:39] a couple questions. Marzett I yield, how did you did? And then the last one will be an [49:41] yield, how did you did? And then the last one will be an [49:41] yield, how did you did? And then the last one will be an easier one. But how did you [49:42] then the last one will be an easier one. But how did you [49:42] then the last one will be an easier one. But how did you determine your initial proposed [49:44] easier one. But how did you determine your initial proposed [49:44] easier one. But how did you determine your initial proposed per tree per trip fee? What [49:47] determine your initial proposed per tree per trip fee? What [49:47] determine your initial proposed per tree per trip fee? What type of formula did you use? So [49:50] per tree per trip fee? What type of formula did you use? So [49:51] per tree per trip fee? What type of formula did you use? So at the time and and it's been [49:53] type of formula did you use? So at the time and and it's been [49:53] type of formula did you use? So at the time and and it's been quite some time. But we that [49:54] at the time and and it's been quite some time. But we that [49:54] at the time and and it's been quite some time. But we that fee was developed through a [49:56] quite some time. But we that fee was developed through a [49:56] quite some time. But we that fee was developed through a consultant process. I believe [49:58] fee was developed through a consultant process. I believe [49:58] fee was developed through a consultant process. I believe Nelson Nygaard helped us [49:59] consultant process. I believe Nelson Nygaard helped us [49:59] consultant process. I believe Nelson Nygaard helped us develop that fee at that time. [50:01] Nelson Nygaard helped us develop that fee at that time. [50:01] Nelson Nygaard helped us develop that fee at that time. So it was a lot of work. It [50:03] develop that fee at that time. So it was a lot of work. It [50:03] develop that fee at that time. So it was a lot of work. It actually several iterations [50:04] So it was a lot of work. It actually several iterations [50:05] So it was a lot of work. It actually several iterations through the council offices, if [50:06] actually several iterations through the council offices, if [50:06] actually several iterations through the council offices, if I recall, of those fees and [50:08] through the council offices, if I recall, of those fees and [50:08] through the council offices, if I recall, of those fees and including the maps. So the maps [50:10] I recall, of those fees and including the maps. So the maps [50:10] I recall, of those fees and including the maps. So the maps were also drawn by consultant. [50:12] including the maps. So the maps were also drawn by consultant. [50:12] including the maps. So the maps were also drawn by consultant. So, you know, as we work [50:15] were also drawn by consultant. So, you know, as we work [50:15] were also drawn by consultant. So, you know, as we work through and as the program [50:17] So, you know, as we work through and as the program [50:17] So, you know, as we work through and as the program matures, it is something that, [50:19] through and as the program matures, it is something that, [50:19] through and as the program matures, it is something that, you know, eventually, [50:21] matures, it is something that, you know, eventually, [50:21] matures, it is something that, you know, eventually, especially as we can begin cost [50:22] you know, eventually, especially as we can begin cost [50:22] you know, eventually, especially as we can begin cost recovery, that we can begin [50:24] especially as we can begin cost recovery, that we can begin [50:24] especially as we can begin cost recovery, that we can begin looking again, perhaps through [50:26] recovery, that we can begin looking again, perhaps through [50:26] recovery, that we can begin looking again, perhaps through a consultant in terms of [50:27] looking again, perhaps through a consultant in terms of [50:28] looking again, perhaps through a consultant in terms of developing, do the geographies [50:29] a consultant in terms of developing, do the geographies [50:29] a consultant in terms of developing, do the geographies continue to make sense as well [50:31] developing, do the geographies continue to make sense as well [50:32] developing, do the geographies continue to make sense as well as do the fee structure [50:34] continue to make sense as well as do the fee structure [50:34] continue to make sense as well as do the fee structure continue to make sense? We can [50:35] as do the fee structure continue to make sense? We can [50:35] as do the fee structure continue to make sense? We can do the fee structure in-house, [50:37] continue to make sense? We can do the fee structure in-house, [50:37] continue to make sense? We can do the fee structure in-house, but we work with a consultant [50:38] do the fee structure in-house, but we work with a consultant [50:38] do the fee structure in-house, but we work with a consultant at the time to develop it. [50:41] but we work with a consultant at the time to develop it. [50:41] but we work with a consultant at the time to develop it. Great. And so through that [50:42] at the time to develop it. Great. And so through that [50:42] at the time to develop it. Great. And so through that consultant work is how you got [50:44] Great. And so through that consultant work is how you got [50:44] Great. And so through that consultant work is how you got option A, option B and option C [50:47] consultant work is how you got option A, option B and option C [50:47] consultant work is how you got option A, option B and option C for the original trip fees for [50:49] option A, option B and option C for the original trip fees for [50:49] option A, option B and option C for the original trip fees for what's presented in front of us [50:51] for the original trip fees for what's presented in front of us [50:51] for the original trip fees for what's presented in front of us today of like $0.24 for the [50:53] what's presented in front of us today of like $0.24 for the [50:53] what's presented in front of us today of like $0.24 for the equity focused. No, no, that [50:56] today of like $0.24 for the equity focused. No, no, that [50:56] today of like $0.24 for the equity focused. No, no, that was the work we did at the cows. [50:59] equity focused. No, no, that was the work we did at the cows. [50:59] equity focused. No, no, that was the work we did at the cows. Okay. And so that that's not [51:01] was the work we did at the cows. Okay. And so that that's not [51:01] was the work we did at the cows. Okay. And so that that's not part of the consultant work [51:02] Okay. And so that that's not part of the consultant work [51:03] Okay. And so that that's not part of the consultant work then it doesn't build off of [51:04] part of the consultant work then it doesn't build off of [51:04] part of the consultant work then it doesn't build off of that. No. We did our analysis [51:06] then it doesn't build off of that. No. We did our analysis [51:06] then it doesn't build off of that. No. We did our analysis based on the data available to [51:07] that. No. We did our analysis based on the data available to [51:07] that. No. We did our analysis based on the data available to us from Ladot. Okay. Can you [51:10] based on the data available to us from Ladot. Okay. Can you [51:10] based on the data available to us from Ladot. Okay. Can you talk to me about what that data, [51:11] us from Ladot. Okay. Can you talk to me about what that data, [51:11] us from Ladot. Okay. Can you talk to me about what that data, what that analysis looked like? [51:12] talk to me about what that data, what that analysis looked like? [51:13] talk to me about what that data, what that analysis looked like? I know we talked about admin [51:14] what that analysis looked like? I know we talked about admin [51:14] what that analysis looked like? I know we talked about admin and going out to do the, the, [51:17] I know we talked about admin and going out to do the, the, [51:17] I know we talked about admin and going out to do the, the, the audit, but I wanted like I [51:20] and going out to do the, the, the audit, but I wanted like I [51:20] and going out to do the, the, the audit, but I wanted like I want to know why equity and we [51:22] the audit, but I wanted like I want to know why equity and we [51:22] the audit, but I wanted like I want to know why equity and we talked about but like how do we [51:24] want to know why equity and we talked about but like how do we [51:24] want to know why equity and we talked about but like how do we get equity to be in the [51:25] talked about but like how do we get equity to be in the [51:25] talked about but like how do we get equity to be in the standard permitted. Right. If [51:26] get equity to be in the standard permitted. Right. If [51:26] get equity to be in the standard permitted. Right. If we're really talking about [51:27] standard permitted. Right. If we're really talking about [51:27] standard permitted. Right. If we're really talking about equity is what I'm trying to [51:29] we're really talking about equity is what I'm trying to [51:29] we're really talking about equity is what I'm trying to get to. Right. And so straight [51:30] equity is what I'm trying to get to. Right. And so straight [51:30] equity is what I'm trying to get to. Right. And so straight to the point on that, that's [51:32] get to. Right. And so straight to the point on that, that's [51:32] get to. Right. And so straight to the point on that, that's why a subsidy would be needed. [51:33] to the point on that, that's why a subsidy would be needed. [51:33] to the point on that, that's why a subsidy would be needed. Yes. If you want to bring down [51:35] why a subsidy would be needed. Yes. If you want to bring down [51:35] why a subsidy would be needed. Yes. If you want to bring down the equity fee. But what if you [51:37] Yes. If you want to bring down the equity fee. But what if you [51:37] Yes. If you want to bring down the equity fee. But what if you just flip it. Well that the [51:38] the equity fee. But what if you just flip it. Well that the [51:38] the equity fee. But what if you just flip it. Well that the unfortunately, because of the [51:39] just flip it. Well that the unfortunately, because of the [51:39] just flip it. Well that the unfortunately, because of the way the data is, the truth of [51:42] unfortunately, because of the way the data is, the truth of [51:42] unfortunately, because of the way the data is, the truth of how many trips are happening, [51:43] way the data is, the truth of how many trips are happening, [51:43] way the data is, the truth of how many trips are happening, the number of three, one one [51:44] how many trips are happening, the number of three, one one [51:44] how many trips are happening, the number of three, one one requests that we're receiving, [51:45] the number of three, one one requests that we're receiving, [51:46] the number of three, one one requests that we're receiving, the number of requests that are [51:47] requests that we're receiving, the number of requests that are [51:47] requests that we're receiving, the number of requests that are coming in around geofencing, [51:49] the number of requests that are coming in around geofencing, [51:49] the number of requests that are coming in around geofencing, etc. it's just not the reality [51:51] coming in around geofencing, etc. it's just not the reality [51:51] coming in around geofencing, etc. it's just not the reality of the work that's happening [51:53] etc. it's just not the reality of the work that's happening [51:53] etc. it's just not the reality of the work that's happening through this program. And [51:54] of the work that's happening through this program. And [51:55] of the work that's happening through this program. And that's because of prop 26. Or [51:56] through this program. And that's because of prop 26. Or [51:56] through this program. And that's because of prop 26. Or is that just us saying that and [51:59] that's because of prop 26. Or is that just us saying that and [51:59] that's because of prop 26. Or is that just us saying that and us that being our policy and [52:00] is that just us saying that and us that being our policy and [52:00] is that just us saying that and us that being our policy and standard? No, no, no, no, what [52:02] us that being our policy and standard? No, no, no, no, what [52:02] us that being our policy and standard? No, no, no, no, what this is speaking to is, you [52:04] standard? No, no, no, no, what this is speaking to is, you [52:04] standard? No, no, no, no, what this is speaking to is, you know, based on the data we have [52:06] this is speaking to is, you know, based on the data we have [52:06] this is speaking to is, you know, based on the data we have around trips and then also the [52:08] know, based on the data we have around trips and then also the [52:08] know, based on the data we have around trips and then also the data we have from Dot, what it [52:10] around trips and then also the data we have from Dot, what it [52:10] around trips and then also the data we have from Dot, what it costs for them to to do this [52:12] data we have from Dot, what it costs for them to to do this [52:12] data we have from Dot, what it costs for them to to do this program, their operations and [52:13] costs for them to to do this program, their operations and [52:14] costs for them to to do this program, their operations and enforcement work here. We need [52:15] program, their operations and enforcement work here. We need [52:15] program, their operations and enforcement work here. We need it to be able to understand how [52:17] enforcement work here. We need it to be able to understand how [52:17] enforcement work here. We need it to be able to understand how is that broken out? [52:19] it to be able to understand how is that broken out? [52:19] it to be able to understand how is that broken out? Administrative leave how much [52:19] is that broken out? Administrative leave how much [52:19] is that broken out? Administrative leave how much do they spend doing this work? [52:21] Administrative leave how much do they spend doing this work? [52:22] Administrative leave how much do they spend doing this work? And then for the different [52:23] do they spend doing this work? And then for the different [52:23] do they spend doing this work? And then for the different geographic regions, how did [52:24] And then for the different geographic regions, how did [52:24] And then for the different geographic regions, how did they how much time and energy [52:26] geographic regions, how did they how much time and energy [52:26] geographic regions, how did they how much time and energy and effort do they spend doing [52:27] they how much time and energy and effort do they spend doing [52:27] they how much time and energy and effort do they spend doing this work? And so that's where [52:29] and effort do they spend doing this work? And so that's where [52:29] and effort do they spend doing this work? And so that's where we use the data to break it out [52:31] this work? And so that's where we use the data to break it out [52:31] this work? And so that's where we use the data to break it out in those different ways and [52:32] we use the data to break it out in those different ways and [52:32] we use the data to break it out in those different ways and show that based on the trip [52:34] in those different ways and show that based on the trip [52:34] in those different ways and show that based on the trip fees or excuse me, based on the [52:35] show that based on the trip fees or excuse me, based on the [52:35] show that based on the trip fees or excuse me, based on the average number of trips, what [52:37] fees or excuse me, based on the average number of trips, what [52:37] fees or excuse me, based on the average number of trips, what we would anticipate a necessary [52:38] average number of trips, what we would anticipate a necessary [52:38] average number of trips, what we would anticipate a necessary fee would be to get to full [52:40] we would anticipate a necessary fee would be to get to full [52:40] we would anticipate a necessary fee would be to get to full cost recovery. I understand [52:41] fee would be to get to full cost recovery. I understand [52:41] fee would be to get to full cost recovery. I understand that, and but we are the ones [52:44] cost recovery. I understand that, and but we are the ones [52:45] cost recovery. I understand that, and but we are the ones that dictate what that cost is [52:47] that, and but we are the ones that dictate what that cost is [52:47] that, and but we are the ones that dictate what that cost is like. You could give me your [52:48] that dictate what that cost is like. You could give me your [52:48] that dictate what that cost is like. You could give me your analysis and we could say, look, [52:50] like. You could give me your analysis and we could say, look, [52:50] like. You could give me your analysis and we could say, look, we like these numbers, but we [52:51] analysis and we could say, look, we like these numbers, but we [52:51] analysis and we could say, look, we like these numbers, but we suggest that you do it with [52:53] we like these numbers, but we suggest that you do it with [52:53] we like these numbers, but we suggest that you do it with these numbers instead so that [52:54] suggest that you do it with these numbers instead so that [52:54] suggest that you do it with these numbers instead so that where it costs recovery or that [52:56] these numbers instead so that where it costs recovery or that [52:56] these numbers instead so that where it costs recovery or that when we say equity, it's [52:57] where it costs recovery or that when we say equity, it's [52:57] where it costs recovery or that when we say equity, it's actually equity, then yes, to [52:59] when we say equity, it's actually equity, then yes, to [52:59] when we say equity, it's actually equity, then yes, to be compliant with both state [53:01] actually equity, then yes, to be compliant with both state [53:01] actually equity, then yes, to be compliant with both state and city policies, we need to [53:03] be compliant with both state and city policies, we need to [53:03] be compliant with both state and city policies, we need to be able to justify that this is [53:04] and city policies, we need to be able to justify that this is [53:04] and city policies, we need to be able to justify that this is a reasonable cost. And we [53:06] be able to justify that this is a reasonable cost. And we [53:06] be able to justify that this is a reasonable cost. And we justify that by using the data [53:08] a reasonable cost. And we justify that by using the data [53:08] a reasonable cost. And we justify that by using the data that we have in the methodology [53:09] justify that by using the data that we have in the methodology [53:09] justify that by using the data that we have in the methodology that I presented in the report. [53:11] that we have in the methodology that I presented in the report. [53:11] that we have in the methodology that I presented in the report. And then per city policy, we [53:13] that I presented in the report. And then per city policy, we [53:13] that I presented in the report. And then per city policy, we know that we can't just put the [53:15] And then per city policy, we know that we can't just put the [53:15] And then per city policy, we know that we can't just put the cost burden of the equity zone [53:17] know that we can't just put the cost burden of the equity zone [53:17] know that we can't just put the cost burden of the equity zone onto the other areas, onto [53:18] cost burden of the equity zone onto the other areas, onto [53:18] cost burden of the equity zone onto the other areas, onto other users. And so with that, [53:21] onto the other areas, onto other users. And so with that, [53:21] onto the other areas, onto other users. And so with that, that's why we present from the [53:22] other users. And so with that, that's why we present from the [53:22] other users. And so with that, that's why we present from the city's financial policies, if [53:24] that's why we present from the city's financial policies, if [53:24] that's why we present from the city's financial policies, if there is a need or a public [53:26] city's financial policies, if there is a need or a public [53:26] city's financial policies, if there is a need or a public benefit, the council can find [53:28] there is a need or a public benefit, the council can find [53:28] there is a need or a public benefit, the council can find that there is that public [53:29] benefit, the council can find that there is that public [53:29] benefit, the council can find that there is that public benefit and then waive that fee. [53:31] that there is that public benefit and then waive that fee. [53:31] that there is that public benefit and then waive that fee. And in that case, we would need [53:32] benefit and then waive that fee. And in that case, we would need [53:32] benefit and then waive that fee. And in that case, we would need to do a subsidy from the [53:34] And in that case, we would need to do a subsidy from the [53:34] And in that case, we would need to do a subsidy from the general fund. Understood. [53:36] to do a subsidy from the general fund. Understood. [53:36] to do a subsidy from the general fund. Understood. Either way, we can get to a [53:38] general fund. Understood. Either way, we can get to a [53:38] general fund. Understood. Either way, we can get to a subsidy. But thank you for [53:39] Either way, we can get to a subsidy. But thank you for [53:39] Either way, we can get to a subsidy. But thank you for explaining that to me. I want [53:40] subsidy. But thank you for explaining that to me. I want [53:40] subsidy. But thank you for explaining that to me. I want to understand that piece. I'm [53:42] explaining that to me. I want to understand that piece. I'm [53:42] explaining that to me. I want to understand that piece. I'm glad we could get I was able to [53:43] to understand that piece. I'm glad we could get I was able to [53:44] to understand that piece. I'm glad we could get I was able to get my question to you clearly. [53:46] glad we could get I was able to get my question to you clearly. [53:46] glad we could get I was able to get my question to you clearly. And then the last piece that I [53:48] get my question to you clearly. And then the last piece that I [53:48] get my question to you clearly. And then the last piece that I have is what benefits would [53:50] And then the last piece that I have is what benefits would [53:50] And then the last piece that I have is what benefits would your department have with the [53:51] have is what benefits would your department have with the [53:51] have is what benefits would your department have with the authority and this ridotti? [53:53] your department have with the authority and this ridotti? [53:53] your department have with the authority and this ridotti? What benefits would your [53:54] authority and this ridotti? What benefits would your [53:54] authority and this ridotti? What benefits would your department have with the [53:54] What benefits would your department have with the [53:54] What benefits would your department have with the authority to impound and remove [53:57] department have with the authority to impound and remove [53:57] department have with the authority to impound and remove dockless scooters in the public [53:58] authority to impound and remove dockless scooters in the public [53:58] authority to impound and remove dockless scooters in the public right of way? And how does that [53:59] dockless scooters in the public right of way? And how does that [54:00] dockless scooters in the public right of way? And how does that differ from your current [54:01] right of way? And how does that differ from your current [54:01] right of way? And how does that differ from your current operations? Thank you for that [54:04] differ from your current operations? Thank you for that [54:04] differ from your current operations? Thank you for that question. The benefit would be [54:05] operations? Thank you for that question. The benefit would be [54:05] operations? Thank you for that question. The benefit would be that it would allow us to to [54:07] question. The benefit would be that it would allow us to to [54:07] question. The benefit would be that it would allow us to to move quicker to make that [54:09] that it would allow us to to move quicker to make that [54:09] that it would allow us to to move quicker to make that removal, as well as ensuring [54:11] move quicker to make that removal, as well as ensuring [54:11] move quicker to make that removal, as well as ensuring that we have some control over [54:12] removal, as well as ensuring that we have some control over [54:12] removal, as well as ensuring that we have some control over it. Right now, we have to reach [54:15] that we have some control over it. Right now, we have to reach [54:15] that we have some control over it. Right now, we have to reach out to other departments to [54:16] it. Right now, we have to reach out to other departments to [54:16] it. Right now, we have to reach out to other departments to make that work, and sometimes [54:18] out to other departments to make that work, and sometimes [54:18] out to other departments to make that work, and sometimes that would come at a cost. [54:20] make that work, and sometimes that would come at a cost. [54:20] make that work, and sometimes that would come at a cost. Fortunately for now, we've been [54:21] that would come at a cost. Fortunately for now, we've been [54:21] that would come at a cost. Fortunately for now, we've been able to get the companies to do [54:23] Fortunately for now, we've been able to get the companies to do [54:23] Fortunately for now, we've been able to get the companies to do it. But our great fear is if a [54:26] able to get the companies to do it. But our great fear is if a [54:26] able to get the companies to do it. But our great fear is if a company were to, for example, [54:27] it. But our great fear is if a company were to, for example, [54:27] it. But our great fear is if a company were to, for example, just shut down and go out of [54:30] company were to, for example, just shut down and go out of [54:30] company were to, for example, just shut down and go out of business and just leave all [54:31] just shut down and go out of business and just leave all [54:31] just shut down and go out of business and just leave all their devices on the right of [54:33] business and just leave all their devices on the right of [54:33] business and just leave all their devices on the right of way. Sure, we can chase them [54:34] their devices on the right of way. Sure, we can chase them [54:34] their devices on the right of way. Sure, we can chase them down and do those things, but [54:36] way. Sure, we can chase them down and do those things, but [54:36] way. Sure, we can chase them down and do those things, but the ultimate goal is for us to [54:37] down and do those things, but the ultimate goal is for us to [54:37] down and do those things, but the ultimate goal is for us to get these off the streets now [54:39] the ultimate goal is for us to get these off the streets now [54:39] the ultimate goal is for us to get these off the streets now in the next, you know, maybe 72 [54:41] get these off the streets now in the next, you know, maybe 72 [54:41] get these off the streets now in the next, you know, maybe 72 hours or this week. And right [54:42] in the next, you know, maybe 72 hours or this week. And right [54:42] in the next, you know, maybe 72 hours or this week. And right now that would be very [54:43] hours or this week. And right now that would be very [54:43] hours or this week. And right now that would be very difficult for us to do. And we [54:45] now that would be very difficult for us to do. And we [54:45] now that would be very difficult for us to do. And we don't our ladot teams don't [54:48] difficult for us to do. And we don't our ladot teams don't [54:48] difficult for us to do. And we don't our ladot teams don't have the authority to do that. [54:49] don't our ladot teams don't have the authority to do that. [54:49] don't our ladot teams don't have the authority to do that. We'd have to try to contract [54:51] have the authority to do that. We'd have to try to contract [54:51] have the authority to do that. We'd have to try to contract out to someone else to make [54:52] We'd have to try to contract out to someone else to make [54:52] We'd have to try to contract out to someone else to make that work. It's like how we're [54:54] out to someone else to make that work. It's like how we're [54:54] out to someone else to make that work. It's like how we're now dealing with a bunch of [54:56] that work. It's like how we're now dealing with a bunch of [54:56] that work. It's like how we're now dealing with a bunch of empty newspaper boxes and you [54:59] now dealing with a bunch of empty newspaper boxes and you [54:59] now dealing with a bunch of empty newspaper boxes and you know, I. Yes, that. Yeah. The [55:02] empty newspaper boxes and you know, I. Yes, that. Yeah. The [55:02] empty newspaper boxes and you know, I. Yes, that. Yeah. The payphones. Yeah. No, that [55:04] know, I. Yes, that. Yeah. The payphones. Yeah. No, that [55:04] know, I. Yes, that. Yeah. The payphones. Yeah. No, that sounds good. I and that's why I [55:07] payphones. Yeah. No, that sounds good. I and that's why I [55:07] payphones. Yeah. No, that sounds good. I and that's why I think we would like to, to [55:08] sounds good. I and that's why I think we would like to, to [55:08] sounds good. I and that's why I think we would like to, to figure out how we can move that. [55:10] think we would like to, to figure out how we can move that. [55:10] think we would like to, to figure out how we can move that. And I know that Council member [55:15] figure out how we can move that. And I know that Council member [55:15] figure out how we can move that. And I know that Council member Nazarian asked about the [55:16] And I know that Council member Nazarian asked about the [55:16] And I know that Council member Nazarian asked about the liabilities, but can you just [55:19] Nazarian asked about the liabilities, but can you just [55:19] Nazarian asked about the liabilities, but can you just please, for clarification for [55:20] liabilities, but can you just please, for clarification for [55:20] liabilities, but can you just please, for clarification for me, two things. What [55:23] please, for clarification for me, two things. What [55:23] please, for clarification for me, two things. What indemnification protections [55:25] me, two things. What indemnification protections [55:25] me, two things. What indemnification protections does the city have under this [55:26] indemnification protections does the city have under this [55:26] indemnification protections does the city have under this program? And what insurance [55:27] does the city have under this program? And what insurance [55:27] does the city have under this program? And what insurance coverage are operators required [55:28] program? And what insurance coverage are operators required [55:28] program? And what insurance coverage are operators required to carry? So I don't know. But [55:32] coverage are operators required to carry? So I don't know. But [55:32] coverage are operators required to carry? So I don't know. But our indemnification is it's [55:34] to carry? So I don't know. But our indemnification is it's [55:34] to carry? So I don't know. But our indemnification is it's actually very good. The city [55:35] our indemnification is it's actually very good. The city [55:35] our indemnification is it's actually very good. The city attorney's drafted it. It's [55:37] actually very good. The city attorney's drafted it. It's [55:37] actually very good. The city attorney's drafted it. It's incredibly strong. I don't know, [55:39] attorney's drafted it. It's incredibly strong. I don't know, [55:39] attorney's drafted it. It's incredibly strong. I don't know, Mike. Do you want to speak to [55:40] incredibly strong. I don't know, Mike. Do you want to speak to [55:41] incredibly strong. I don't know, Mike. Do you want to speak to it? Yeah, it's as you know, [55:44] Mike. Do you want to speak to it? Yeah, it's as you know, [55:44] Mike. Do you want to speak to it? Yeah, it's as you know, it's we have a actually in the [55:46] it? Yeah, it's as you know, it's we have a actually in the [55:46] it? Yeah, it's as you know, it's we have a actually in the country. Ours is the most [55:48] it's we have a actually in the country. Ours is the most [55:48] it's we have a actually in the country. Ours is the most robust of any other [55:50] country. Ours is the most robust of any other [55:50] country. Ours is the most robust of any other municipality. And we did that [55:52] robust of any other municipality. And we did that [55:52] robust of any other municipality. And we did that deliberately because we knew [55:54] municipality. And we did that deliberately because we knew [55:54] municipality. And we did that deliberately because we knew going in what the regulation [55:56] deliberately because we knew going in what the regulation [55:56] deliberately because we knew going in what the regulation was going to look like, what it [55:57] going in what the regulation was going to look like, what it [55:57] going in what the regulation was going to look like, what it had to look like in order for [55:59] was going to look like, what it had to look like in order for [55:59] was going to look like, what it had to look like in order for these to drive safely on our [56:01] had to look like in order for these to drive safely on our [56:01] had to look like in order for these to drive safely on our roads or be operated, because a [56:03] these to drive safely on our roads or be operated, because a [56:03] these to drive safely on our roads or be operated, because a lot of them are not. And we [56:05] roads or be operated, because a lot of them are not. And we [56:05] roads or be operated, because a lot of them are not. And we knew the liability was going to [56:06] lot of them are not. And we knew the liability was going to [56:07] lot of them are not. And we knew the liability was going to be off the charts, and they [56:08] knew the liability was going to be off the charts, and they [56:08] knew the liability was going to be off the charts, and they would always reach for that [56:10] be off the charts, and they would always reach for that [56:10] be off the charts, and they would always reach for that look to do, you know, accuse us [56:11] would always reach for that look to do, you know, accuse us [56:12] would always reach for that look to do, you know, accuse us of of their negligence. And so [56:15] look to do, you know, accuse us of of their negligence. And so [56:15] look to do, you know, accuse us of of their negligence. And so we had initially wanted 10 [56:18] of of their negligence. And so we had initially wanted 10 [56:18] of of their negligence. And so we had initially wanted 10 million per incident. 10 [56:20] we had initially wanted 10 million per incident. 10 [56:20] we had initially wanted 10 million per incident. 10 million umbrella policy. And [56:23] million per incident. 10 million umbrella policy. And [56:24] million per incident. 10 million umbrella policy. And the council at that time, we [56:25] million umbrella policy. And the council at that time, we [56:25] million umbrella policy. And the council at that time, we had one council member who was [56:27] the council at that time, we had one council member who was [56:27] the council at that time, we had one council member who was adamantly opposed and wanted it [56:29] had one council member who was adamantly opposed and wanted it [56:29] had one council member who was adamantly opposed and wanted it to be a million, which would [56:30] adamantly opposed and wanted it to be a million, which would [56:30] adamantly opposed and wanted it to be a million, which would have been completely inadequate. [56:32] to be a million, which would have been completely inadequate. [56:32] to be a million, which would have been completely inadequate. And ultimately it was agreed. [56:34] have been completely inadequate. And ultimately it was agreed. [56:34] have been completely inadequate. And ultimately it was agreed. The council president at the [56:35] And ultimately it was agreed. The council president at the [56:35] And ultimately it was agreed. The council president at the time, council member, Krekorian [56:37] The council president at the time, council member, Krekorian [56:37] The council president at the time, council member, Krekorian former council member. They [56:39] time, council member, Krekorian former council member. They [56:39] time, council member, Krekorian former council member. They agreed to 5 million per [56:40] former council member. They agreed to 5 million per [56:40] former council member. They agreed to 5 million per incident, 5 million umbrella. [56:43] agreed to 5 million per incident, 5 million umbrella. [56:43] agreed to 5 million per incident, 5 million umbrella. And that's where it currently [56:44] incident, 5 million umbrella. And that's where it currently [56:44] incident, 5 million umbrella. And that's where it currently is. And going forward, if we [56:46] And that's where it currently is. And going forward, if we [56:47] And that's where it currently is. And going forward, if we need to change that again, if [56:48] is. And going forward, if we need to change that again, if [56:48] is. And going forward, if we need to change that again, if we determine, you know, that'll [56:50] need to change that again, if we determine, you know, that'll [56:50] need to change that again, if we determine, you know, that'll be up to the council to ask us [56:52] we determine, you know, that'll be up to the council to ask us [56:52] we determine, you know, that'll be up to the council to ask us to do that. If we think they're [56:54] be up to the council to ask us to do that. If we think they're [56:54] be up to the council to ask us to do that. If we think they're inadequate at any time. Great. [56:56] to do that. If we think they're inadequate at any time. Great. [56:56] to do that. If we think they're inadequate at any time. Great. Thank you. Thank you so much. [56:58] inadequate at any time. Great. Thank you. Thank you so much. [56:58] inadequate at any time. Great. Thank you. Thank you so much. And the assurance that Will is [57:00] Thank you. Thank you so much. And the assurance that Will is [57:00] Thank you. Thank you so much. And the assurance that Will is that something we don't have [57:01] And the assurance that Will is that something we don't have [57:01] And the assurance that Will is that something we don't have that would we'll need to talk [57:02] that something we don't have that would we'll need to talk [57:02] that something we don't have that would we'll need to talk to the companies about. We [57:06] that would we'll need to talk to the companies about. We [57:06] that would we'll need to talk to the companies about. We require the insurance. And as [57:07] to the companies about. We require the insurance. And as [57:07] to the companies about. We require the insurance. And as Mike mentioned, that will be up [57:09] require the insurance. And as Mike mentioned, that will be up [57:09] require the insurance. And as Mike mentioned, that will be up to the council to make any [57:11] Mike mentioned, that will be up to the council to make any [57:11] Mike mentioned, that will be up to the council to make any changes related to the [57:12] to the council to make any changes related to the [57:12] to the council to make any changes related to the insurance. So the council has [57:13] changes related to the insurance. So the council has [57:13] changes related to the insurance. So the council has that ability to make those [57:14] insurance. So the council has that ability to make those [57:15] insurance. So the council has that ability to make those changes. Understood. Thank you [57:15] that ability to make those changes. Understood. Thank you [57:15] that ability to make those changes. Understood. Thank you for that clarity. I have no [57:17] changes. Understood. Thank you for that clarity. I have no [57:17] changes. Understood. Thank you for that clarity. I have no more questions, colleagues. Any [57:18] for that clarity. I have no more questions, colleagues. Any [57:18] for that clarity. I have no more questions, colleagues. Any more questions? Great. I'll [57:20] more questions, colleagues. Any more questions? Great. I'll [57:20] more questions, colleagues. Any more questions? Great. I'll pass it back to I yield. Thank [57:22] more questions? Great. I'll pass it back to I yield. Thank [57:22] more questions? Great. I'll pass it back to I yield. Thank you chair so much members. [57:25] pass it back to I yield. Thank you chair so much members. [57:25] pass it back to I yield. Thank you chair so much members. After the several months of [57:27] you chair so much members. After the several months of [57:27] you chair so much members. After the several months of meetings that we had on this [57:28] After the several months of meetings that we had on this [57:28] After the several months of meetings that we had on this issue, I want to put forth [57:30] meetings that we had on this issue, I want to put forth [57:30] meetings that we had on this issue, I want to put forth recommendations that capture [57:33] issue, I want to put forth recommendations that capture [57:33] issue, I want to put forth recommendations that capture the issues in all of the [57:35] recommendations that capture the issues in all of the [57:35] recommendations that capture the issues in all of the reports and bought some balance [57:36] the issues in all of the reports and bought some balance [57:36] the issues in all of the reports and bought some balance to getting us to full cost [57:38] reports and bought some balance to getting us to full cost [57:38] reports and bought some balance to getting us to full cost recovery. My recommendations [57:40] to getting us to full cost recovery. My recommendations [57:40] to getting us to full cost recovery. My recommendations include $150,000 permit fee for [57:45] recovery. My recommendations include $150,000 permit fee for [57:45] recovery. My recommendations include $150,000 permit fee for operators, as well as a [57:46] include $150,000 permit fee for operators, as well as a [57:46] include $150,000 permit fee for operators, as well as a meaningful subsidy for the [57:48] operators, as well as a meaningful subsidy for the [57:48] operators, as well as a meaningful subsidy for the equity focused development [57:49] meaningful subsidy for the equity focused development [57:49] meaningful subsidy for the equity focused development districts. Based on the current [57:51] equity focused development districts. Based on the current [57:51] equity focused development districts. Based on the current and historical record of on [57:53] districts. Based on the current and historical record of on [57:54] districts. Based on the current and historical record of on demand mobility program. These [57:57] and historical record of on demand mobility program. These [57:57] and historical record of on demand mobility program. These recommendations use the same [57:59] demand mobility program. These recommendations use the same [57:59] demand mobility program. These recommendations use the same analysis as the CBO report, and [58:02] recommendations use the same analysis as the CBO report, and [58:02] recommendations use the same analysis as the CBO report, and while the subsidy may require [58:04] analysis as the CBO report, and while the subsidy may require [58:04] analysis as the CBO report, and while the subsidy may require general fund dollars to fill [58:05] while the subsidy may require general fund dollars to fill [58:05] while the subsidy may require general fund dollars to fill any funding gaps, I believe as [58:07] general fund dollars to fill any funding gaps, I believe as [58:08] general fund dollars to fill any funding gaps, I believe as a city, we're here to balance [58:09] any funding gaps, I believe as a city, we're here to balance [58:09] any funding gaps, I believe as a city, we're here to balance all of our revenue streams in [58:11] a city, we're here to balance all of our revenue streams in [58:11] a city, we're here to balance all of our revenue streams in the best interests of our [58:13] all of our revenue streams in the best interests of our [58:13] all of our revenue streams in the best interests of our residents. I want to be mindful [58:15] the best interests of our residents. I want to be mindful [58:15] the best interests of our residents. I want to be mindful that we that we, while we are [58:20] residents. I want to be mindful that we that we, while we are [58:20] residents. I want to be mindful that we that we, while we are trying to achieve balance, we [58:22] that we that we, while we are trying to achieve balance, we [58:22] that we that we, while we are trying to achieve balance, we also need to have measures in [58:24] trying to achieve balance, we also need to have measures in [58:24] trying to achieve balance, we also need to have measures in place to protect the city from [58:25] also need to have measures in place to protect the city from [58:25] also need to have measures in place to protect the city from any liability from [58:28] place to protect the city from any liability from [58:28] place to protect the city from any liability from overcollection and have a [58:30] any liability from overcollection and have a [58:30] any liability from overcollection and have a process in place to do so. [58:33] overcollection and have a process in place to do so. [58:33] overcollection and have a process in place to do so. Lastly, I want to thank the Cao [58:35] process in place to do so. Lastly, I want to thank the Cao [58:35] process in place to do so. Lastly, I want to thank the Cao and Dot staff that have been [58:37] Lastly, I want to thank the Cao and Dot staff that have been [58:37] Lastly, I want to thank the Cao and Dot staff that have been working on this issue for [58:38] and Dot staff that have been working on this issue for [58:38] and Dot staff that have been working on this issue for nearly a year. We truly [58:40] working on this issue for nearly a year. We truly [58:41] working on this issue for nearly a year. We truly appreciate all your hard work [58:42] nearly a year. We truly appreciate all your hard work [58:42] nearly a year. We truly appreciate all your hard work and look forward to moving [58:44] appreciate all your hard work and look forward to moving [58:44] appreciate all your hard work and look forward to moving these recommendations. Are [58:48] and look forward to moving these recommendations. Are [58:48] and look forward to moving these recommendations. Are there any objections to [58:51] these recommendations. Are there any objections to [58:51] these recommendations. Are there any objections to adopting the Transportation [58:52] there any objections to adopting the Transportation [58:52] there any objections to adopting the Transportation Committee Chair's [58:55] adopting the Transportation Committee Chair's [58:55] adopting the Transportation Committee Chair's recommendations, as amended by [58:56] Committee Chair's recommendations, as amended by [58:56] Committee Chair's recommendations, as amended by the Public Works Committee [58:58] recommendations, as amended by the Public Works Committee [58:58] recommendations, as amended by the Public Works Committee chair members? Members? No. [59:02] the Public Works Committee chair members? Members? No. [59:03] the Public Works Committee chair members? Members? No. Okay, then, Mr. Clerk, can you [59:05] chair members? Members? No. Okay, then, Mr. Clerk, can you [59:05] chair members? Members? No. Okay, then, Mr. Clerk, can you please call the roll? Certainly. [59:06] Okay, then, Mr. Clerk, can you please call the roll? Certainly. [59:07] Okay, then, Mr. Clerk, can you please call the roll? Certainly. For transportation committee. [59:08] please call the roll? Certainly. For transportation committee. [59:08] please call the roll? Certainly. For transportation committee. Council member. Hutt. Yes. [59:10] For transportation committee. Council member. Hutt. Yes. [59:11] For transportation committee. Council member. Hutt. Yes. Council member. Park. Yes. [59:13] Council member. Hutt. Yes. Council member. Park. Yes. [59:13] Council member. Hutt. Yes. Council member. Park. Yes. Councilmember. Hernandez. [59:15] Council member. Park. Yes. Councilmember. Hernandez. [59:15] Council member. Park. Yes. Councilmember. Hernandez. Councilmember. Padilla. Yes. [59:17] Councilmember. Hernandez. Councilmember. Padilla. Yes. [59:17] Councilmember. Hernandez. Councilmember. Padilla. Yes. Counselor. Nazarian. Aye. And [59:20] Councilmember. Padilla. Yes. Counselor. Nazarian. Aye. And [59:20] Councilmember. Padilla. Yes. Counselor. Nazarian. Aye. And for Public Works Committee. [59:22] Counselor. Nazarian. Aye. And for Public Works Committee. [59:22] Counselor. Nazarian. Aye. And for Public Works Committee. Councilmember. Hernandez. Yes. [59:23] for Public Works Committee. Councilmember. Hernandez. Yes. [59:23] for Public Works Committee. Councilmember. Hernandez. Yes. Councilmember. Padilla. Yes. [59:26] Councilmember. Hernandez. Yes. Councilmember. Padilla. Yes. [59:26] Councilmember. Hernandez. Yes. Councilmember. Padilla. Yes. Councilmember. Hutt. Yes. Okay. [59:27] Councilmember. Padilla. Yes. Councilmember. Hutt. Yes. Okay. [59:27] Councilmember. Padilla. Yes. Councilmember. Hutt. Yes. Okay. These matters are approved, as [59:29] Councilmember. Hutt. Yes. Okay. These matters are approved, as [59:29] Councilmember. Hutt. Yes. Okay. These matters are approved, as amended, both through the Chair [59:31] These matters are approved, as amended, both through the Chair [59:31] These matters are approved, as amended, both through the Chair of Public Works and the Chair [59:33] amended, both through the Chair of Public Works and the Chair [59:33] amended, both through the Chair of Public Works and the Chair of Transportation. Thank you. [59:36] of Public Works and the Chair of Transportation. Thank you. [59:36] of Public Works and the Chair of Transportation. Thank you. Mr. Clerk. Is there any [59:37] of Transportation. Thank you. Mr. Clerk. Is there any [59:37] of Transportation. Thank you. Mr. Clerk. Is there any additional business before the [59:38] Mr. Clerk. Is there any additional business before the [59:38] Mr. Clerk. Is there any additional business before the committee today that clears the [59:40] additional business before the committee today that clears the [59:40] additional business before the committee today that clears the desk? Thank you. Committee [59:42] committee today that clears the desk? Thank you. Committee [59:42] committee today that clears the desk? Thank you. Committee members and members of the [59:43] desk? Thank you. Committee members and members of the [59:43] desk? Thank you. Committee members and members of the public. This meeting is [59:45] members and members of the public. This meeting is [59:45] members and members of the public. This meeting is adjourned.