[0:01] >> Good morning, everyone. If I [0:02] could ask everyone [0:03] to please take a seat. It is [0:04] 11:00 AM and we want [0:05] to start this meeting [0:06] on time. [0:11] And I want to welcome back [0:12] everyone. All right. [0:16] So, I will call the regular [0:17] Executive Management Committee [0:19] meeting to order. I am serving [0:20] as the chair [0:23] of today's meeting in place [0:25] of Mayor Bass. Board Clerk, [0:29] will you please call the roll [0:30] to establish a quorum? [0:32] >> Vice Chair Barger is absent [0:33] today. [0:35] Director DuPont Walker. [0:37] >> Here. [0:39] >> Director Solis. [0:40] >> Here. [0:42] >> Chair Bass will be absent [0:43] today. Caltrans [0:47] Representative Roberts. [0:49] >> Here. [0:50] >> And sitting in for Chair [0:52] Bass, we will have Chair [0:53] Sandoval. [0:54] >> Thank you. [0:55] >> Quorum is present. [0:56] >> Very good. Alrighty, I'm [0:57] going to turn it over to [0:58] Deanna to read public comment [0:59] instructions. [1:03] >> To give public comment, [1:04] each speaker needs [1:05] to follow a 3-step process. [1:06] First, at any time [1:07] during the meeting, the speaker [1:08] can dial 1-888-978-8818 and [1:11] enter the English or Spanish [1:12] access codes. The English [1:13] access code is 5647249#. The [1:16] Spanish access code is [1:18] 7292892#. This number and the [1:20] access codes are also listed [1:23] on the agenda [1:24] for this meeting, [1:25] which can be found [1:26] at boardagendas.metro.net. For [1:27] speakers watching the video [1:28] feed, there's a 30-second lag [1:29] behind the actual meeting. If [1:30] any speakers are watching [1:32] on video and want [1:33] to give public comment, [1:34] they should dial in early to [1:35] make sure they don't miss the [1:36] chance. 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You may email [2:38] your comment to [2:39] boardclerk@metro.net or mail it [2:40] to Board Administration, 1 [2:41] Gateway Plaza, Mail Stop [2:43] 99-3-1, Los Angeles, [2:46] California. Thank you. [2:47] >> Thank you, Deanna. Okay, [2:49] let's go ahead and start [2:50] with the consent calendar. Do [2:51] any board members, [2:53] committee members wish [2:54] to pull an item from consent? [2:56] Okay, not seeing any. Deanna, [2:58] can you check [2:59] to see if we have any speakers [3:00] on consent calendar items? [3:02] >> None in the room, [3:03] but if you're on the phone, [3:04] please press pound 2 if you'd [3:05] like to make a comment [3:06] under consent calendar items [3:07] 31, 32, and 33. [3:12] No public comments. [3:13] >> Okay, can I get a motion [3:14] to approve? [3:15] All righty. Second. [3:16] Got a first, a second. not [3:17] hearing any opposition, [3:19] the motion passes. Okay, let's [3:21] go ahead and move on to item [3:22] 34, which is state and federal [3:23] report. Just for committee [3:27] members and the public, [3:28] we do have 3 non-consent items [3:29] for consideration. Welcome. [3:34] >> Good morning, Mr. Chair and [3:35] members. Michael Turner with [3:36] Government Relations. And this [3:37] chair is temporarily empty [3:39] because Raffi is checking [3:41] on something that was happening [3:42] on the House floor this [3:44] morning. So, he'll be right [3:46] down. But Madeline will give us [3:48] an update on state issues. And [3:51] mainly there's a lot [3:52] of discussion [3:53] about the CAPITA Invest program [3:55] and really the collapsing [3:57] of revenues that was created [3:58] by CARB's recent ruling. And [4:01] then the Olympics continues [4:03] to be a big issue for us, both [4:06] in Washington and Sacramento, [4:08] and we'll talk about both [4:11] of those. [4:13] >> All right, thank you. We're [4:14] going to go a little out [4:15] of order, and I'm going [4:16] to start [4:17] with our state update. So, [4:18] since we last met, the [4:19] California Air Resources Board [4:21] voted to advance regulations [4:22] that will essentially defund [4:24] the Tier 3 investment [4:26] in the new Cap and Invest [4:29] program. Tier 3 investments [4:30] include Greenhouse Gas [4:32] Reduction Fund-funded transit [4:33] and intercity rail capital [4:35] programs for $400 million [4:37] statewide annually, and the [4:39] Low Carbon Transit Operations [4:41] program for $200 million [4:44] statewide of annual funding. [4:46] Metro stands to lose $50 [4:47] million a year [4:49] in LC TOP funding alone, [4:51] which we use [4:52] for critical operations. [4:54] Though Metro and a large [4:55] coalition of transit, [4:56] affordable housing, clean air, [4:58] and other Tier 3 recipients [5:00] turned out to the late May [5:01] hearing to urge the CARB board [5:03] to oppose these regulations, [5:05] we were not successful. We are [5:07] aware of litigation related [5:08] to this vote already. [5:10] Communities for a Better [5:12] Environment say CARB failed [5:14] to fully study changes meant [5:16] to ease pressure on oil [5:19] refineries and other industries [5:20] before taking a final vote. [5:21] The next joint [5:24] California-Quebec auction is [5:25] scheduled for August 19th, [5:28] 2026. According to CARB, most [5:29] of the new changes [5:30] to the market are scheduled [5:32] to go into effect September [5:34] 1st. Now, moving on [5:36] to the budget, the governor [5:38] formally signed the FY 26-27 [5:39] budget on June 29th. The final [5:41] budget deal is very similar [5:44] to the May revision that we [5:46] previously reported on. The [5:48] budget deal does not address [5:49] the funding issues associated [5:51] with the greenhouse gas [5:53] reduction fund that have arisen [5:55] following the CARB vote. The [5:57] final budget additionally does [5:59] not include any funding related [6:01] to Metro's $379 million [6:04] transportation infrastructure [6:06] ask for the 2028 Olympic and [6:08] Paralympic Games, though it [6:10] does contain provisions related [6:12] to the games route network that [6:13] will be conducted that were [6:15] conducted in collaboration [6:17] with Caltrans. In early July, [6:18] the state announced that [6:20] preliminary data from [6:21] California tax agencies showed [6:23] income tax Data from April [6:25] through June exceeding the [6:28] estimates of the May revision [6:30] by $1.3 billion. While this is [6:31] welcome news overall [6:33] to the state budget, just to [6:35] note that this increased [6:36] revenue will primarily go to [6:38] funding schools and community [6:39] colleges. As far as next steps, [6:42] additional budget trailer bills [6:44] are expected when they [6:45] reconvene in August, and Metro [6:47] has used this recess [6:48] to continue to advocate [6:49] for the inclusion of games [6:51] funding and the restoration [6:52] of critical transit funding. [6:54] Then head [6:56] to a legislative update. As I [6:57] mentioned, [6:59] the legislature is currently [7:00] in summer recess and will [7:01] return for its final month [7:03] of session on August 2nd. [7:05] Happy to report that on July [7:06] 1st, Senator Durazo's SB 1361 [7:08] passed the Assembly Local [7:11] Government Committee on a vote [7:13] of 8 to 1 with 1 abstention. SB [7:15] 1361 limits cities' ability [7:18] to take certain actions [7:20] against transit projects [7:22] on the basis of opposition to [7:24] increased density requirements [7:25] in 2025's SB 79. This [7:29] action those these actions [7:30] include requesting that a [7:33] transit agency reduce service [7:34] to a stop so that the bill [7:36] would not apply. The bill now [7:39] moves to consideration [7:40] in the full assembly. [7:41] Additionally, [7:43] in other good news, AB 1837 [7:44] by Assemblymember Mark [7:46] Gonzalez passed its final [7:48] Policy Committee vote. The [7:50] members of the Senate [7:52] Privacy, Digital Technology, [7:53] and Consumer Protection [7:54] Committee voted 7 to 2 [7:56] to advance the bill [7:57] to the full Senate. This bill [7:59] would extend the sunset [8:00] to 2032-2034 [8:04] for transit agencies [8:05] to use front-facing cameras [8:07] on buses [8:08] to capture parking violations [8:09] in bus-only lanes. With that, [8:11] happy [8:12] to take any questions or turn [8:14] it over to my colleague, [8:16] Raffi. [8:18] >> Let's go ahead and have the [8:19] full presentation and ask my [8:20] colleagues [8:21] to hold their questions until [8:22] you finish the presentation. [8:24] Okay. Thank you. [8:27] >> Chair Sandoval, members [8:29] of the committee, Raffi [8:30] Amprayan, Federal Affairs, LA [8:31] Metro. Happy to give a quick [8:32] federal update. Probably 3 [8:34] primary issues that merit, [8:36] discussion today. The first is [8:37] remarkably timely, [8:39] and that is it appears the [8:41] House of Representatives is [8:43] moving in the direction of [8:44] adopting a continuing [8:45] resolution for our purposes, [8:47] that is relevant because, [8:51] we have a number [8:53] of equities pending in a [8:56] transportation spending bill, [8:58] in the House, and it would [9:00] appear that, there will be, [9:01] no successful effort to try [9:04] to get that adopted [9:07] by the beginning [9:08] of the federal fiscal year, [9:10] September 1st. In, shorthand, [9:12] I would say basically what [9:14] Congress would be doing and [9:16] this is sort of the House [9:17] perspective, [9:18] and it hasn't been shared [9:19] by the Senate yet they'd be [9:21] kicking the can [9:22] down the road, till after the [9:23] November election and dealing [9:25] with what some would [9:27] characterize as a, a bit [9:30] of a, a mess [9:31] of all these spending bills [9:32] after Election Day. So, that [9:33] it's significant. We had, [9:35] a number of funding priorities [9:38] in the fiscal year '27 bill, [9:42] including $875 million [9:44] for the Olympic Games, and a [9:46] number of other issues, [9:48] and it appears that as [9:49] of this morning, the House is [9:52] going to seek to kick that can [9:53] down the road. That's [9:55] significant [9:56] for another reason, [9:58] because if they're going [9:59] to do that, [10:00] that means there's only about [10:01] 20 days, 20 legislative days, [10:05] until Congress breaks for the [10:07] November recess and the [10:13] elections. And the second [10:14] matter I want to raise [10:16] to the, to the board is the [10:18] fact that this means the [10:20] reauthorization of America's [10:21] Surface Transportation Bill, [10:24] which was the Bipartisan [10:25] Infrastructure Law, appears [10:26] like that's not going to [10:27] happen. That's significant [10:29] because with the expiration [10:32] of the Bipartisan [10:34] Infrastructure Law, you lose [10:35] the, the funding that was in [10:38] Title J of the BIL, which was [10:40] the advance appropriations. [10:43] So, Congress will now have [10:45] to decide in what shape and [10:46] manner they're going [10:48] to reauthorize for a short [10:51] period this authorization bill. [10:55] It's a complicated matter. [10:57] There are some stakeholders who [10:59] believe we should have a [11:01] short-term authorization [11:03] extension to put pressure on [11:05] Congress to get a long-term [11:06] bill passed. Somewhere [11:09] in the vicinity of 5 to 6 [11:11] years. And there are others who [11:12] are concerned that Congress [11:14] appears not able to deal [11:17] with these things in the short [11:18] term and that there should be a [11:20] long-term authorization [11:22] of the legislation. And so that [11:24] we don't get into a herky-jerky [11:27] perspective where every 2 to 3 [11:30] months we don't know if the [11:32] formula funding is coming. We [11:34] don't know what discretionary [11:36] grant programs are happening. [11:37] It's, it's not a terribly rosy [11:42] scenario for us. I think we've [11:43] got a great planning department [11:46] and they're taking a look [11:47] at what the impacts would be [11:49] of a short-term extension [11:51] over a long-term extension. [11:53] So, that's the second impact [11:54] and sort [11:56] of collateral damage, Chair [11:58] Sandoval, of what occurs when [11:59] the continuing resolution is [12:02] adopted. You're now going [12:03] to be looking at an extension [12:04] of the Surface Transportation [12:06] Authorization Bill. And the [12:08] last matter I'd like to raise [12:09] which is a subject that our CEO [12:10] has sent [12:11] out legislative alerts [12:12] on and we've talked about [12:13] to the board previously. [12:14] But I want [12:15] to make sure that it's clear [12:16] in everyone's minds the impact [12:17] of this. The Office of [12:19] Management and Budget on May [12:21] 29th issued a proposed rule [12:24] which would substantially [12:26] change the manner in which [12:28] federal grants are given, [12:29] not just [12:30] to transportation agencies, [12:31] but across the whole [12:33] of government, approximately [12:34] $1 trillion annually, and it [12:38] includes having grants cleared [12:40] by, political appointees. It [12:43] includes the ability [12:45] to cease a grant, midstream [12:47] should that grant be deemed not [12:49] in the, not part of the [12:51] executive branch's priorities. [12:54] And so, for us, as one example, [12:57] and then I'll conclude a [12:59] good example would be a CIG [13:01] project. You have a major [13:03] project that is funded [13:05] over a 10-year process, [13:07] say it's $1 billion. This would [13:10] give the federal government the [13:11] ability to, halfway [13:12] through the grant, to say, [13:13] we have found reason not to [13:15] continue this grant and we're [13:17] going to cease giving you, [13:20] allocations based on this grant [13:23] because we found A, B, and C. [13:25] As you can imagine, [13:26] for any entity that is building [13:28] large infrastructure [13:30] projects. That's highly [13:32] disruptive. And the a great [13:35] indicator of this was that [13:36] Moody's, the rating [13:38] agency, put out a statement and [13:40] said the adoption [13:42] of these proposed rules would, [13:43] in their estimation, lead [13:45] to a downgrade [13:47] in the rating of, [13:51] transportation entities that [13:54] are in consistent receipt [13:58] of federal grants. So, I'll [13:59] conclude there. Appropriations [14:00] authorization and the OMB [14:03] proposed guidance, [14:05] which is expected to be put [14:06] into force on October 1st. [14:10] >> Raffi, do you have any bad [14:11] news for us? [14:13] >> Yeah, it's been, yeah, [14:15] not the greatest news today. [14:17] >> Before we take comments, [14:18] I'm out of line here. We have [14:19] one other presentation. No, [14:21] that's it. Oh, okay, good. [14:24] Let's see if we have any [14:25] speakers on this item, and if [14:27] not, I'll turn it over [14:28] to we'll start with, [14:30] committee member Dupont [14:31] Walker. But let's see if we [14:32] have any members [14:33] of the public who wish [14:34] to speak. [14:35] >> This is public comment [14:36] for item 34. Please press pound [14:37] 2 if you'd like [14:38] to make a comment on item 34. [14:40] Please unmute the caller. We [14:41] have one caller. [14:52] Silas, can you [14:53] unmute 3784, please? [15:01] >> Please stand by. I'm trying [15:02] to unmute them now. There we [15:06] go. Caller ending in 378. One [15:07] minute [15:09] to state your comment. [15:11] >> We didn't want [15:12] to hear that. So, you have all [15:13] these the new state stuff, [15:15] which give reduced local [15:18] control and allow and prevent [15:19] cities from stopping transit [15:21] projects and such. So, I'm [15:23] expecting we'll probably see a [15:25] vote against that from the [15:26] Metro Board at some point, even [15:28] though it actually helps [15:29] transit projects. But, you [15:31] know, it's very notable how you [15:34] all keep so many [15:36] of the members of this board in [15:38] their particular elected [15:39] capacities and their local [15:40] governments keep trying [15:42] to kiss up to the Trump [15:44] administration, and yet they're [15:46] still not giving you anything. [15:47] So, why are you trying [15:49] to kiss up to them? So let's [15:50] stop trying to appease Trump. [15:52] Let's stop failing [15:54] to do anything [15:56] to protect your residents [15:57] from ICE. Let I don't even know [15:59] where Bass is. She better have [16:01] a good excuse for missing her [16:02] first meeting as chair. [16:04] But she needs to fire [16:06] McDonnell. Let's start actually [16:08] standing up [16:09] to the federal government since [16:10] they're clearly not giving you [16:12] stuff in. [16:15] >> That was the last public [16:16] comment. [16:17] >> Okay. I'm going to go with [16:18] Director Dupont-Walker and then [16:19] Director Solis. [16:22] >> Thank you, Mr. Chair, and [16:24] thank you for the presentation. [16:25] I know that your diligence is [16:27] something we can have [16:29] confidence in, and our CEO's [16:31] focus and vision is something [16:35] that we count on. I just need [16:36] to understand the process [16:38] after a rule is proposed, [16:43] because the news seems [16:44] to report that [16:45] without outcome, [16:47] without possibility [16:49] of change. Is there any kind of [16:51] overruling that can happen? I [16:54] just need [16:55] to understand simply, [16:57] and if it's too long today, [16:58] I'll take a tutorial later. [17:01] >> Well, there's generally 2 [17:02] tracks. One I would defer [17:04] to our legal expert on, [17:07] which is that the, [17:08] the full expectation that this, [17:10] proposed rule change, [17:13] will be challenged [17:14] in the courts, number one. And [17:16] number two, and I'm looking [17:18] at we have a former member of [17:19] Congress here, the, [17:20] many members of Congress, [17:23] including a, a vast majority [17:27] of Democrats, are deeply [17:28] opposed, to this rule change. [17:33] And I can expect, whether it's [17:35] in the coming weeks and months, [17:38] or whether it's the beginning [17:42] of a new 120th Congress, there [17:44] will be determined efforts [17:45] by the legislative branch to, [17:47] overrule this change being [17:51] proposed by the Office of [17:53] Management and Budget. So, [17:55] on the legal, I would defer [17:56] to the legal expert, but [17:57] on the, on the federal end [17:59] of the legislative, I do [18:01] believe that there will be [18:02] efforts by members of Congress [18:04] to enact a law to bar this [18:06] proposed rule change. [18:10] >> Thank you, Mr. Chair. [18:11] >> Thank you. [18:12] >> Director Solis? [18:14] >> I concur, Raffi. When we [18:15] started, you were [18:18] in the back room, [18:20] and maybe you should have [18:21] stayed there, no? Because it's [18:22] all bad news. But no, thank [18:23] you, because both, you know, [18:24] all of you, you know, [18:26] you guys have been doing great [18:28] work, and obviously, It's not [18:30] good, not good messaging and [18:32] things that have been going on. [18:33] Even yesterday [18:35] in our planning committee, [18:36] we talked about this. And I [18:37] know that, Holly Mitchell, our [18:39] also director, [18:40] is keenly aware that [18:42] for the state side, [18:43] there can be work done [18:45] between now and then on the [18:46] trailer bills and getting our [18:48] delegation engaged. [18:51] So whatever appropriately, [18:52] appropriately is needed, [18:54] I'm sure we will get our ducks [18:55] in order and start doing that? [18:56] Because that's going [19:00] to be soon upon us, right? [19:01] >> Yes, thank you, Director. [19:02] And I, I would also add that [19:03] this was a priority. Our $379 [19:05] million ask was a priority [19:07] of our LA County delegation. [19:10] They are fully engaged, [19:12] fully committed. We've been [19:14] speaking to key members, [19:16] leadership, [19:17] and budget staff these past few [19:19] days, even though it's recess, [19:20] to really hit the ground [19:21] running when they return in [19:23] August. with the hopes that we [19:24] can secure. We've been very [19:26] clear that we need the funding [19:27] this session, that this is not [19:29] something that they can kick [19:31] the can down the road for [19:32] in order to have time [19:33] to complete the projects. [19:35] >> So we'll be sending some [19:37] written as well as calling and [19:38] visiting or whatever? [19:41] Yes. All of that. [19:43] Okay, and [19:44] on the federal side, well, OMB, [19:45] let's wait and see what happens [19:47] after November. 'Cause I'm [19:50] certain that there are counties [19:52] and other states and members [19:54] and other localities that are [19:56] also gonna be challenging the [19:58] rule. I know we are [19:59] at the county doing that too, [20:02] because it will create havoc. [20:03] And I'm glad you pointed out [20:04] Moody's rating, credit rating, [20:06] because that also will [20:07] devastate and fracture a lot [20:08] of our budgeting and our [20:10] ability to get loans, right? [20:16] To support everything that [20:17] we're doing. So, it's tragic. [20:19] Thank you for your work. We [20:21] remain committed, right? So, [20:23] thank you. [20:25] >> Thank you. Thank you, [20:26] Director. Raffi, you said a [20:28] lot. And I think that [20:34] for the public, they don't [20:36] always know necessarily what [20:37] the implications are. What does [20:38] it actually mean [20:39] to riders when you talk [20:40] about a proposed rule change? [20:43] Can you just elaborate a little [20:46] bit on what that actually means [20:47] for the agency and [20:48] for our riders, because [20:50] they have an important role [20:51] to play in terms of pushing [20:53] their congressional members [20:54] to speak [20:55] on their behalf as it relates [20:57] to the change. So, can you [20:59] comment on that? [21:01] >> I think one of the thank [21:02] you, Chair Sandoval, [21:03] for the question. One [21:04] of the genuine success stories [21:06] of this agency [21:07] over the past couple of decades [21:09] is that we have an exquisite, [21:10] very productive, [21:12] very effective relationship [21:14] between the local community and [21:15] taxpayers, the state of [21:18] California, and the federal [21:21] government what some would [21:25] refer to as a 3-legged stool. [21:27] And we've been able [21:28] to use that 3-legged stool [21:29] to advance mobility across LA [21:30] County by building projects [21:32] both small, medium-sized and [21:35] big. I think for the [21:37] LA County resident who [21:41] would be introduced [21:44] to this subject [21:46] for the first time, I would [21:47] share that this proposed rule [21:49] might put us in a position [21:52] of taking away one of the legs [21:54] of the stool. And you can [21:55] imagine the result that would [21:57] occur when you take one leg [22:01] away. And so the fine and I [22:02] think brilliant example I gave [22:05] was with, [22:07] a full funding grant agreement. [22:10] There's a Schedule 6 in the [22:12] full funding grant agreement [22:13] which says we're going [22:15] to give you, let's say $100 [22:16] million over a 6-year period. [22:18] If you're 3 years in and [22:21] for some reason, whether [22:24] whatever the administration is, [22:27] a decision is made [22:28] to halt that funding, [22:30] you're left with nothing. In [22:33] effect half a transit project, [22:36] or, not in our business because [22:39] we don't build bridges, [22:40] but we'd be left [22:42] with half a bridge. And it, [22:43] it's not a way, to construct [22:48] infrastructure because we need [22:50] to complete our projects and [22:52] get our, [22:53] our whether it's our rail [22:54] lines, our BRT, [22:55] whatever project we have, [22:57] they need to go from point A to [22:58] point be and not halfway there. [23:02] So, it's, as [23:06] Director Solis said, [23:07] it's raised a lot [23:09] of concerns. I think the [23:10] Moody's announcement, you know, [23:11] the, the business and corporate [23:13] community is also concerned [23:14] because the impact this could [23:16] have on, [23:17] the finances that drive a lot [23:19] of the construction [23:21] of these projects. [23:23] >> And Mr. Chair, I would like [23:24] to actually expand [23:25] beyond the rule [23:27] to connect the dots about some [23:28] of the things Raffi's referring [23:30] to because In the [23:31] reauthorization bill is where [23:34] the authorized funding levels [23:36] for the Capital Investment [23:37] Grant Program are established. [23:38] That's the main source of how [23:40] we fund our big projects. We [23:42] have the Southeast Gateway [23:44] Line that's waiting [23:46] to get in, into engineering, [23:47] which could then become [23:49] eligible for funding. We have [23:50] the Eastside extension [23:52] of the, what used [23:54] to be called the Gold Line, [23:56] that would be our one [23:58] of our next priorities. And [24:00] then we're trying to line up [24:01] Sepulveda to ultimately get [24:02] in that queue. There's also [24:04] funding that comes [24:06] from that bill that goes [24:07] to the state, [24:09] and then those things flow [24:10] down into local projects. So, [24:12] if that authorization ceases, [24:14] Caltrans then will could [24:16] potentially have financial [24:19] trouble in funding projects, [24:21] shop projects, things [24:23] like that. At the state, [24:25] I'm taking Raffi's gloom and [24:27] making it gloomier. [24:29] At the state, we just saw CARB [24:31] eliminate funding for 2 public [24:34] transit programs. One is the [24:35] Transit and Intercity Rail [24:38] Capital Program. That's where [24:40] we that's the one source [24:42] of state funding [24:43] for transit capital projects. [24:45] There's some money that comes [24:47] from SB 1, the sales, the [24:51] sales tax increase we did that [24:52] goes into that. [24:53] But that's a big chunk [24:54] of funding that we have used [24:56] for our capital projects. The [24:58] other thing that action did, [25:00] it eliminates funding for one [25:01] of the sources [25:03] of operating funds [25:04] for our transit programs, [25:07] about $50 million [25:09] for the county. Madeline? [25:12] >> Yes, for the county. [25:13] >> And so, you know, [25:15] this is basically what we're up [25:17] against, right? We've got a [25:18] threat [25:19] against the capital programs. [25:20] There's also the, [25:21] the transit programs The [25:23] formula programs are also [25:24] authorized in that. Oh, sorry, [25:25] I got those separately. And [25:26] then at the state, [25:28] we've got the threats to the [25:31] TIRCP and the LC TOP program. [25:33] So, rough waters ahead. [25:37] >> Yeah, it would be [25:38] catastrophic for our ongoing [25:40] and future projects. I would [25:41] just ask for future [25:43] presentations if you could at [25:45] least bring us one positive and [25:48] good, even if it's small. [25:50] >> I had good news about the [25:52] legislation progressing. [25:53] >> Very good, very good. [25:55] Okay, not seeing any other [25:57] directors who wish to speak. [25:58] This is a receiving file. Thank [25:59] you so much. We can go and move [26:01] on to item 35, Homeless [26:09] Outreach Management and [26:11] Engagement Quarterly Report. [26:14] Do my colleagues want a [26:15] presentation on this item? Do [26:22] you want a presentation [26:23] on this item? No? [26:26] Okay. You can certainly sit and [26:29] just in case questions come up, [26:30] but not in need of a [26:31] presentation. I will go ahead [26:33] and turn it over to Deanna [26:35] to see if we have any speakers [26:36] on this item. [26:37] >> This is public comment [26:38] for item 35. Please press pound [26:39] 2 if you'd like [26:40] to make a comment on item 35. [26:43] We have one caller. Please [26:44] unmute 3784. [26:48] >> Caller ending in 3784, [26:49] please state your name. You [26:50] have one minute [26:51] to state your comment. [26:55] >> Hello? [27:06] >> I think he's, that was the [27:07] last I guess public comment. [27:11] >> Very good, very good, [27:12] very good. Do any of my [27:14] colleagues have any questions? [27:16] Uh, yes. [27:17] >> Just briefly, I just want [27:18] to say thank you [27:19] for your work and thank you [27:20] for continuing to work [27:21] with the County Department of [27:23] Mental Health [27:24] with the teams and all [27:26] of that. And I'm really happy [27:27] because every time you do [27:28] present, it's always good, [27:29] good news. Just one concern [27:31] end of the line, [27:34] and continuing to see how we [27:36] can get our COGS more involved [27:38] because they do receive [27:39] funding, [27:41] special funding and allocations [27:43] through Measure A and also [27:46] through trust funds that come [27:49] down from Sacramento [27:50] for housing and all that. And I [27:52] really think it would be [27:53] worthwhile [27:54] to have members talk, [27:56] those that are part of the COGS [27:59] also. let our COGs know how [28:01] important it is for them to [28:03] also stand up interim housing [28:06] and opportunities like that. [28:07] 'Cause I think that people are [28:08] losing sight [28:10] of it and I'm hearing some of [28:12] that and it's really concerning [28:13] because we don't need [28:15] to be faced with that. We [28:17] should be all [28:18] in this together. So, whatever [28:20] we can do, not just your staff [28:22] 'cause I know you're all [28:24] out there, but maybe that's [28:25] something that this, [28:26] this board can do as well. [28:28] So, just wanted [28:30] to say that. [28:31] >> Well said, Director Solis. [28:32] Director Dupont-Walker. [28:34] >> Thank you, Mr. Chair. I want [28:35] to join, Supervisor Solis [28:37] in saying thank you. During, [28:38] FIFA, when I was ear hustling, [28:42] I heard so many local people [28:44] talk about being back on public [28:46] transit and seeing the [28:48] ambassadors and seeing the [28:49] attention [28:51] to some persons who were [28:53] on the trains. For the buses, I [28:56] think there's also a very [28:57] wonderful and welcome [28:59] atmosphere. I even heard we [29:03] even had some black shirts [29:05] occasionally on there. So, [29:07] thank you for continuing [29:08] to do that, especially [29:10] for the residents of the county [29:11] who have no choice, [29:13] that we are able [29:14] to offer them an opportunity [29:15] to be housed. Thank you, Mr. [29:18] Chair. [29:20] >> Thank you, Director. I do [29:23] have a, a question, and it, [29:24] relates back to comments made [29:25] by Director Solis. I know that, [29:29] we could always use more [29:31] interim beds. I know in the [29:33] City of Pomona, we have I [29:36] believe we provide 5 interim. [29:39] just, just [29:41] for full transparency, [29:44] between The A-line [29:49] from downtown Union Station [29:52] to Pomona. How many other [29:53] cities are providing interim [29:54] beds? Do you have that number? [29:58] >> In partnership with Metro? [29:59] >> Correct. [30:01] >> Unfortunately, we just lost [30:03] 25 that we had in partnership [30:05] with LASA and the county, one [30:09] of the shelters, Welcome [30:11] Navigation Shelter, that is [30:13] located pretty close [30:15] to the proximity of Union [30:16] Station, had to close due [30:17] to funding. A lot [30:19] of that funding was LASA, [30:21] and as you know, a lot of the [30:23] funding that LASA had went [30:24] to the new department [30:27] in the county. [30:28] Through that process, [30:29] they were unable [30:30] to keep the shelter open, [30:32] and therefore those 25 of 80 [30:33] beds that that shelter had, [30:34] we were utilizing [30:36] for end-of-line assistance, [30:37] is no longer available. [30:38] >> So, because [30:39] of that decision, [30:41] there are real consequences to [30:42] the efforts that we've [30:43] undertaken with Metro. Yes. [30:46] So, in terms of where do we go [30:48] from here, you mentioned the [30:50] COGs, Director Solis. 25 [30:55] beds is, is huge. Can you [30:58] explain what a next step might [31:00] look like? [31:02] >> Yeah, it's a systemic issue, [31:03] you know, with respect to how [31:06] homeless services is being [31:08] looked [31:09] at and ultimately directed to [31:11] be funded. there's an impact [31:14] that not just the Metro teams [31:16] are seeing, [31:17] but the entire continuum [31:19] of care is seeing. And so [31:20] anytime there's a systemic [31:21] issue like a loss [31:23] of resources, whether that be [31:25] permanent housing vouchers, [31:27] whether that be interim [31:28] housing, or any service [31:30] for that matter, our teams are [31:32] also experiencing the effects [31:34] of that. And so recourse for [31:36] moving forward is challenging. [31:38] If we were to go [31:39] to COGS and say we're aware [31:40] of the funding that you've got, [31:42] you know, are you interested [31:43] in partnering with Metro? Are [31:44] there ways in which we can help [31:46] direct people who we engage to [31:47] occupy the beds that you've [31:49] got? Those conversations are [31:51] typically okay, [31:52] but they're met [31:55] with a little resistance [31:56] because of the impact [31:58] of the system's issues. [32:03] >> Yes. I would just, [32:04] I would just add that, you [32:05] know, [32:07] we did consolidate services [32:08] into the new department [32:10] at the county, HSH. So, I would [32:11] encourage, again, I mean, [32:12] you do this anyway, but [32:15] to partner with them, to meet [32:16] with the COGs, because if [32:17] there's a model that could be [32:18] created, [32:20] I think it's worthwhile. And I [32:21] believe that members [32:22] of the board, Board of [32:24] Supervisors, would be, you [32:25] know, interested in seeing how [32:27] that can be worked out. [32:29] In part, you have [32:30] to understand, the public has [32:32] to understand that we just got [32:33] hit really hard by the federal [32:35] government as well. So, many of [32:37] those vouchers that we thought [32:39] we had went away. And now [32:41] they're shifting [32:42] from permanent housing to look [32:44] at interim housing. Not [32:48] everyone is capable [32:49] of coming up fast in speed [32:51] to meet the challenge. And it's [32:53] really bad right now. And all I [32:56] would say is let's try to work [32:57] with those that might have [32:58] funding streams that we can [33:00] connect with our departments, [33:02] and I'm sure our director [33:04] of HSH would, [33:06] would be interested in hearing [33:08] that. I know we can certainly [33:09] pass that along. [33:10] >> Ms. Mahan and I have a good [33:12] working relationship. [33:13] >> Okay, thank you. So, this is [33:16] a thank you for the work that [33:17] you're doing. this is a receive [33:19] and file and does not require a [33:20] vote, [33:21] so we can go ahead and move on [33:23] to the next item, which is [33:24] Metro Workforce Housing. And I [33:25] We're going to ask [33:27] for a presentation [33:30] on that. [33:37] >> Welcome. Morning. [33:38] >> Morning, Chair and [33:39] committee members. pleasure [33:40] to be with you. Seleta [33:41] Reynolds. I'm the Chief of [33:42] Innovation and Games Mobility [33:43] Planning. I'm joined here by [33:44] Marcel Porras, who's the [33:45] Deputy Chief of Innovation. [33:46] And, we're bringing this item [33:48] before you. it actually ties [33:50] back directly to a motion, [33:52] an addendum [33:54] to a motion that came from [33:55] Director Solis to ask Metro [33:56] to go into the marketplace and [33:58] find solutions [34:01] for workforce housing as part [34:02] of our overall affordable [34:04] housing efforts and joint [34:05] development efforts in LA [34:07] County. And so we're pleased [34:08] to bring back before you [34:10] something that we have been [34:13] reporting back [34:14] on progress and are ready [34:15] to potentially advance [34:17] to implementation. [34:22] >> Good afternoon. Marcel [34:23] Porras, Deputy Chief [34:24] Innovation Officer. Here [34:26] to present the project. So, the [34:29] project that Nathaniel has [34:32] previously mentioned was is a [34:33] 97-unit workforce housing [34:36] income-restricted development. [34:38] To the right, [34:40] you see the final mix that we, [34:41] we arrived on based [34:43] on negotiations [34:44] with the developer and [34:45] supported [34:47] by our underwriting analysis. [34:48] It shifted [34:51] from majority studio units [34:52] to now be 9 studios, 65 [34:54] one-bedrooms, and 23 [34:56] two-bedrooms. This shouldn't be [35:00] new to y'all because I think [35:02] we're here because [35:03] of your direction [35:05] on workforce housing, but, [35:06] here are just a couple [35:07] of the main, you know, [35:08] findings that we did [35:09] through our analysis in terms [35:10] of why workforce housing is [35:11] important. One, it attracts top [35:13] talent. It builds loyalty and [35:14] retention. It improves [35:16] productivity, and it enhances [35:18] work-life balance. In regards [35:20] to location, there are 3 [35:25] factors that make this location [35:26] unique for Metro's first [35:27] workforce housing pilot. One, [35:29] its proximity to Metro [35:30] operations. As you can see, [35:32] the site sits near 3 rail [35:33] divisions and 1, bus division. [35:35] its existing system [35:36] connectivity this station's [35:38] proximity to the KE Line and [35:41] the transfer at Expo Crenshaw [35:43] gives residents one-transfer [35:45] access to downtown LA and the [35:47] broader east-west corridor [35:48] today. And finally, the K [35:50] Line Northern Extension. When [35:52] complete, the KNE adds [35:54] underground transfers [35:56] to the D Line and B Line. 3 [35:57] rail lines, no above-ground [35:59] transfers, and it's unique in [36:00] Metro's joint development [36:02] pipeline. In regards to, [36:06] I'm sorry, as part [36:11] of our due diligence, Metro [36:12] also dove [36:13] into other alternatives. [36:14] First, we looked [36:15] at whether or not Metro could [36:16] leverage the joint development [36:17] pipeline of projects. [36:18] However, low-income housing tax [36:20] credits, regulations prohibit [36:21] employer, restricted occupancy [36:23] in tax credit financed housing. [36:25] Second, Metro issued an RFI. as [36:27] you can see on the bottom part [36:30] of the slide, 19 total projects [36:31] were identified, 9 of which met [36:33] the 95+ unit scale threshold. [36:37] 6 of those were adjacent to a [36:39] Metro rail station. We found [36:40] ourselves with only 2 projects [36:43] of the total 19 meeting [36:45] the thresholds of, but [36:47] none matched the connectivity [36:51] that the Limerick Park project [36:53] that we're looking at today, [36:54] provided slide. [37:00] So in regards [37:01] to employee benefit, Metro [37:02] identified around 2,000 [37:04] frontline employees including [37:05] bus operators, rail operators, [37:07] mechanics, maintenance staff [37:08] that would qualify [37:10] for the 80% AMI threshold. [37:12] To the right of the slide, we [37:14] highlight how we would [37:15] establish the Metro employee [37:17] preference and work with the [37:18] property management team [37:19] to fill the units with Metro [37:20] workforce. In regards to the [37:21] Metro's loan, it is a $25 [37:27] million loan at a 3%, [37:29] simple interest. The term [37:33] of the project is 55 years, [37:34] which coincides with the [37:36] covenant term that's tied [37:39] to the entitlements. We would [37:41] be the subordinate lender. [37:44] There would be a 60/40 revenue [37:46] split [37:48] of the residual receipts, [37:49] the refi proceeds, [37:51] or the disposition proceeds. [37:52] And then finally, Metro's net [37:54] present value is $7.2 million [37:56] worth of loan payments [37:58] over the 55-year period. [38:06] In terms of risk, [38:07] we identified 4 key elements. [38:09] The first one being [38:11] subordination. As I mentioned, [38:12] we are the second lender. The [38:14] mitigation here and what that [38:16] does is our loan and preference [38:18] are subordinate. The way we [38:21] would look to address this is [38:22] to develop an agreement that [38:25] would be acknowledged [38:27] by the senior letter for [38:28] Metro's workforce preference as [38:30] a continuing operating [38:32] requirement. Second, developer [38:35] default. So, if it was were [38:37] to go into foreclosure, the [38:39] senior lender could extinguish [38:40] subordinate interests. The [38:42] mitigation here is a step-in [38:43] right. Metro may assume [38:45] property management role to [38:46] preserve the program if the [38:48] senior lender takes possession. [38:49] Third, long-term ownership. [38:50] The risk here is the future [38:52] sale could remove Metro's [38:54] ability [38:56] to enforce the preference. The [38:57] way we're looking at mitigating [38:59] this is developing a right [39:00] of first refusal [39:01] on the first offer. Metro could [39:03] acquire the project [39:05] at any proposed sale, default, [39:06] or foreclosure. And lastly, [39:08] the construction period. Metro [39:10] is the first committed funder, [39:12] and the senior lender has not [39:14] yet been selected. The [39:16] mitigation here would be [39:17] milestone-based disbursements, [39:18] draw inspection rights, [39:20] and cure rights. Protect [39:22] Metro's capital [39:24] during construction. So, [39:25] lastly, [39:28] the staff recommendations for, [39:29] this item is [39:31] to authorize the CEO, [39:33] to execute and enter into a [39:35] loan agreement and other [39:36] related documents, [39:37] with the developer team, [39:38] authorize the CEO or designee [39:40] to negotiate and execute a [39:42] recorded regulatory agreement [39:44] establishing a Metro employee [39:46] housing preference for 100% [39:48] of the project units [39:49] to be acknowledged [39:50] by the senior lender, and [39:51] finally find that the project [39:53] is categorically exempt [39:54] from CEQA. Happy [39:57] to answer any questions. [39:58] >> Just to close out, to give a [39:59] little bit more context, [40:00] this came through as an [40:02] unsolicited proposal, [40:04] which is why the Office of [40:05] Innovation is sort of [40:06] in the role that we're in, [40:07] and we had brought it [40:08] to the board previously [40:09] to get guidance on taking it to [40:11] the next step because it [40:13] qualifies as what's called a [40:14] landmark unsolicited proposal [40:17] meaning either the dollar [40:19] amount or the nature of the [40:20] proposal passes a certain [40:21] threshold. So, we brought that [40:22] before you and got your [40:24] guidance [40:25] on what things we wanted [40:27] to negotiate with [40:28] in the next step, and those [40:29] negotiations have concluded [40:30] successfully. And so now we're [40:32] bringing it back [40:33] before you and asking [40:34] for the, the actions listed [40:35] above. Thank you. [40:38] >> Thank you. [40:39] Before we take questions, [40:40] comments from directors, [40:41] let's go ahead and I'll turn it [40:43] over to you, Deanna, [40:44] to see if we have any speakers [40:45] on this item. [40:46] >> This is public comment [40:47] for item 36. Please press pound [40:48] 2 if you'd like to make a [40:49] comment. I have one caller. [40:51] Please unmute. [40:54] >> Caller ending in 3784, [40:55] please state your name. You [40:56] have 1 minute [40:57] to state your comment. [41:00] >> Okay, so first of all, [41:01] I just have to say how [41:02] embarrassing it should be to [41:04] you that you have approximately [41:07] 2,000 employees who are making [41:08] At or below 80,000 80% [41:11] of area median income, [41:12] which is currently $92,080 a [41:15] year. Like, why aren't you [41:18] paying your employees more? [41:19] Like, like genuinely, what why, [41:20] why do so many employees [41:22] qualify for this based [41:24] on the metrics you're using? [41:27] Because it seems like you [41:28] should be paying your employees [41:30] more so that they actually are [41:31] paid a living wage. And then [41:33] you should, You know, [41:36] raise the requirements for this [41:38] so that they can your employees [41:39] who are now making a living [41:41] wage in the city of LA, one [41:44] of the most expensive county [41:45] of LA, one [41:46] of the most expensive counties [41:48] in the country can now qualify [41:49] for the Housing Up requirements [41:51] that meet the new raised wage [41:54] for all your employees. Is this [41:56] that's just embarrassing how, [41:58] how little your employees are [42:00] apparently making. [42:06] >> That was the last public [42:07] comment. [42:08] >> Thank you. Okay, I'm going [42:09] to start with Director DuPont [42:10] Walker and then Director [42:11] Solis. [42:12] >> Thank you, Mr. Chair, and [42:13] thank you, Department of [42:16] Extraordinary Innovation. [42:19] >> Strategic Innovation. [42:21] >> Strategic. [42:22] >> Thank you. [42:23] >> Strategic. Strategic and [42:24] Extraordinary Innovation. [42:27] >> The extraordinary is just [42:28] implied. We don't have [42:29] to state it anymore [42:30] in the title of the cabinet. we [42:31] are now strategic. [42:35] >> I admire your humility. I do [42:41] want to put this in context [42:44] because this is an opportunity [42:46] for Metro again [42:48] to trailblaze. I want to point [42:51] out that we will learn some [42:53] things [42:54] from this because it is, I [42:56] believe, a first. As was the [42:59] business interruption fund that [43:01] Metro put in place. I want to [43:03] remind us that when that [43:05] happened, [43:06] there was great angst [43:07] about it. People thought it was [43:09] not deserved. [43:11] But what a number [43:12] of us who supported it had [43:14] in our ears was the statement [43:16] of the then head of the [43:19] Department of Commerce, who [43:21] said they would hope that with [43:23] our system we would solve some [43:24] of the problems that had [43:26] existed in the industry for [43:27] decades and are directly [43:29] related to housing. This board [43:31] decided to move [43:33] beyond just the core mission [43:35] and to take a look at impact [43:37] on community. And impact [43:39] on community means impact [43:41] on people. And so with the [43:43] Business Interruption Fund, we [43:46] said that it was just not a [43:48] good idea. But I want [43:49] to put it in the context [43:50] with affordable housing also. [43:52] Affordable housing is not [43:54] low-income housing. It is a [43:56] definition that no one should [43:58] spend more than 1/3 [44:00] of their income for housing. [44:01] So, if a millionaire was [44:03] spending $500,000, it is not [44:05] affordable. We tend to think [44:06] of that in today's world [44:08] because there's so many people [44:11] who need it who happen to fall [44:13] within the range [44:15] of low income. But the [44:16] low-income housing tax credit [44:18] originally defined this upper [44:20] limit as 120% AMI, [44:22] and we're looking at 80%. So, [44:24] we're still struggling to [44:27] address a problem we knew [44:28] existed several decades ago. [44:31] It is absolutely trailblazing [44:33] and a wonderful opportunity [44:35] for Metro to set an example, to [44:38] create a model that transit [44:41] agencies [44:42] across the country can use, [44:44] because our construction has [44:45] tended [44:46] to tilt housing affordability [44:48] in the wrong direction. It has [44:50] brought about extreme [44:53] gentrification nationally, and [44:55] for us [44:57] to intentionally put housing [44:58] in place is important. Let me [45:00] add quickly that that means the [45:02] people who work for Metro, the [45:04] ones who keep our buses [45:05] running, our buses running, [45:08] our buses running, [45:10] maintain our mail system, and [45:12] serve our riders every day [45:13] deserve [45:15] to have the opportunity to have [45:16] affordable housing. I'm happy [45:18] to see the change in mix away [45:20] from the studios that sometimes [45:23] when we charge a large rent we [45:25] call the lofts. It's still the [45:27] same thing, [45:29] but it provides that [45:30] opportunity [45:31] for not only one-person [45:33] families [45:34] but 2 and 3-person families [45:36] to have a good place to live [45:38] within the City of Los Angeles [45:40] because the cost of housing, [45:42] whether it's rental or [45:44] homeownership, is driving [45:46] certain income families out [45:48] of the city. And this city [45:51] deserves to have diverse [45:53] housing opportunities [45:54] for persons [45:56] with diverse incomes, because [45:58] if our residents do not have [46:01] to spend more than one-third [46:02] of their income for housing, [46:04] the quality of life changes, [46:05] and they might even be able to [46:07] have homeownership because [46:09] they're able to have savings [46:11] and put money aside for the [46:12] other things that they would [46:14] like. Thank you [46:16] for this opportunity. Thank you [46:17] for those who have envisioned [46:19] this particular project, [46:21] Nathaniel. Thank you [46:24] for bringing it to a community [46:25] that's an equity-focused [46:26] community that needs it as a [46:28] start, not a finish, [46:29] as a start. This innovative [46:30] pilot will help us learn how to [46:32] tackle transportation as a part [46:35] of community development, which [46:38] includes housing. I'll have [46:39] some more questions later, but [46:43] I cannot tell you how exciting [46:44] this is [46:46] to someone who has spent most [46:48] of my professional life trying [46:50] to make sure that affordable [46:51] housing stays on the table. [46:54] And for Metro to take this step [46:55] is very important [46:57] to the entire community, but to [46:59] the affordable housing [47:01] community, I say kudos, Madam [47:03] CEO. Kudos, Department of [47:05] Strategic Innovation. And kudos [47:07] to all of Metro, especially [47:10] those who will find a way as an [47:11] employee of Metro to be close [47:13] to their worksite, [47:14] to have a quality of life [47:16] for themselves and [47:17] for their families, and to have [47:18] communities which are going [47:19] to be restored in ways that all [47:22] income levels can find a home. [47:25] Thank you, Mr. Chair. [47:27] >> Thank you, Director. [47:28] Director Solis. [47:30] >> Thank you, Director DuPont [47:31] Walker. I mean, [47:32] you are the guru on housing for [47:36] our communities and especially [47:38] for our riders and for all [47:40] of us. And I want to underscore [47:42] how proud I am that we've been [47:43] able to come to this point. [47:45] This has been in the works [47:47] for some time [47:48] to create this model. And [47:50] at the County of Los Angeles, [47:52] we're also looking [47:53] to do similar things. We had [47:55] the idea of converting an old [47:56] general hospital into housing [47:59] for employees, for staff, [48:02] for nurses, and [48:04] for people who live [48:06] around the community. So, the [48:07] concept isn't new, [48:08] but it is new when it comes to [48:09] a transit agency that [48:11] oftentimes people say, [48:12] why are you bothering [48:13] with housing? Why are you [48:15] bothering with the homeless? [48:16] Why are you bothering [48:18] to extend, you know, [48:19] your values [48:21] in a different way? [48:22] But the values for me come home [48:23] because it's our riders and the [48:26] folks that depend [48:28] on this system of ridership, [48:30] whether it's bus riders or [48:31] whether it's mechanics or [48:33] sanitation workers that clean [48:35] our buses. Everyone should have [48:37] an opportunity. And I'm very, [48:39] I'm very happy to see this [48:41] project move forward. I'm even [48:43] interested in seeing if [48:45] something can happen at the [48:46] El Monte Transit Center because [48:47] we do have some excess space [48:49] there, and I know other folks [48:52] have approached us [48:54] to do development there, but I [48:56] think this is where I think it [48:58] really changes the whole [48:59] paradigm because we are looking [49:02] at not just affordable [49:04] but sustainable, and also [49:06] for people who do work in [49:08] certain income brackets that we [49:10] know need [49:11] to have opportunity as well. [49:13] So, I want to thank you, and I [49:15] hope, [49:17] I hope you will come back maybe [49:18] with some ideas about the El [49:19] Monte Transit Center. So, thank [49:21] you. Thank you for your work. [49:22] Thank you, CEO. [49:24] >> Thank you, Director Solis. [49:26] Thank you, DuPont, Director [49:27] DuPont Walker. I will not be [49:29] able to capture the eloquence [49:30] of either of you as it relates [49:31] to this project. Obviously, [49:33] this is a project, that I, [49:35] that I would support. I, I, [49:37] I do want to just situate it [49:40] though. as I think you know, [49:42] I chair the Finance, Budget [49:45] Audit Committee. I know these [49:46] are general fund dollars if I [49:49] understand correctly. Am I [49:50] correct? And we have finite [49:53] general fund dollars. [50:02] Michelle? [50:04] >> Good afternoon no, [50:05] good morning. Michelle [50:06] Navarro, interim Chief [50:07] Financial Officer. This is [50:09] general fund revenues. We do [50:10] not need funding this year. We [50:12] did split it up [50:13] across multiple years, [50:14] so this will be a need in the [50:16] next fiscal year. We are going [50:17] to look and focus on our joint [50:20] development lease revenues, [50:22] then also our advertising [50:23] revenues, where we do [50:25] anticipate an increase in these [50:27] revenues because we had gained, [50:29] some good partnerships, [50:30] during this World Cup. And [50:33] while this is general fund and [50:35] operating eligible dollars, we [50:36] do see this as a critical [50:38] investment in our workforce [50:40] that will benefit and attract [50:41] and retain our employees. [50:44] >> And that's why I raised the [50:47] question, right, is for us [50:48] to be able to see the value [50:50] that while it yes, [50:52] it does come [50:53] from general fund dollars, [50:55] there is this is a positive [50:56] gain [50:57] for us as an organization. But [50:58] as we situate this conversation [50:59] around the fiscal cliff, right, [51:00] we as directors are going [51:02] to have [51:03] to make very difficult [51:05] decisions about what we what is [51:06] essential, what is primary, [51:07] what is secondary. So, I raise [51:08] it in that context with the [51:09] full understanding that this is [51:11] a, this is a great project, I [51:12] think, for Metro. And certainly [51:14] you say it's a pioneering [51:16] project. This is a, this is a [51:17] first, right? And, and if I [51:19] understood correctly, and, [51:21] is that this is going [51:24] to be available to Metro [51:25] employees? It is not going to? [51:29] >> Correct. [51:30] >> Because, because we're not [51:31] receiving funds from other [51:32] entities that would require us [51:33] to include others outside the [51:35] Metro family, if you will. [51:37] Yeah, that's significant. I [51:39] think there's a lot [51:40] of cities that would love [51:41] to be able to do that, where, [51:42] you know, when we talk [51:44] about taking care of, [51:45] in this particular case, [51:46] homeless, is let us, [51:47] let us take care [51:49] of our homeless population. But [51:50] it doesn't always work that way [51:52] because we get funds from [51:53] multiple different sources so [51:55] that we have [51:57] to broaden our reach, if you [51:59] will, understandably. So, thank [52:00] you, and thank you for that. [52:02] All right, this is a, this is an [52:05] action item, and I have a [52:09] first, and I, I have first [52:11] from DuPont Walker and a second [52:12] from Solis, and I'm not hearing [52:14] any objections, so, [52:16] the item moves forward. It is [52:19] approved. Thank you. Thank you. [52:22] All right, before we go [52:23] to general public comment, [52:28] Director DuPont Walker, had [52:29] asked me if we could revisit [52:31] item 32, not to take action [52:35] on the item, but just so she [52:36] can provide some comments [52:38] on the item. So, I'm going to [52:40] go ahead and say yes and then [52:41] turn it over to Director [52:44] Dupont Walker. [52:45] >> Thank you, Mr. Chair. Very [52:46] quickly, I apologize because I [52:48] should have been paying [52:50] attention, but I did want to [52:51] note the excellent performance [52:53] with small business in this [52:55] particular contract and [52:57] proposal. And [52:59] with the talent bank alone, [53:01] it speaks to our effort to help [53:04] small businesses not only [53:06] survive but thrive. [53:08] But when we have a number [53:10] of them proposed, I think it's [53:11] 17%, which exceeds our request, [53:13] I just wanted to take the time [53:15] to say thank you and kudos [53:17] for helping Metro continue [53:19] to achieve its goal [53:20] of providing an opportunity [53:22] for everyone. [53:24] Thank you, Mr. Chair. [53:25] >> Thank you, Director [53:26] Dupont-Walker. Okay, let's go [53:27] to general public comment. [53:28] >> This is general public [53:29] comment. Please press pound 2 [53:30] if you'd like to speak [53:31] under general public comment. [53:32] We have one caller. [53:33] Please unmute. [53:36] >> Caller ending in 3784, [53:37] please state your name. You [53:38] have 1 minute [53:39] to state your comment. [53:42] >> Yeah, so I, I do think it's [53:43] a little weird that both the [53:45] Chair and Vice Chair are absent [53:47] today. Like, I mean, I give [53:48] Bass the benefit [53:49] of the doubt. Maybe she's [53:51] dealing with the flood thing. [53:52] But I don't know, she seems [53:54] to have a habit of missing the [53:56] meetings. I guess we're [53:57] probably better off without [53:59] Barger's presence anyway, so, [54:00] you know. But, but I mean, [54:02] it's just like, you know, these [54:05] board members aren't even [54:07] interested [54:08] in attending the meetings, it [54:10] seems, but yet they don't want [54:11] to give up their power. And [54:13] that's why the board structure [54:16] they recommended is completely [54:17] just You know, [54:18] basically doesn't take away any [54:20] of their power or listen [54:22] to any of the things that the [54:23] public said over the months [54:25] of hearings that they had. [54:27] And, you know, these board [54:28] members have all have all kinds [54:31] of scandals. And now the now [54:34] they want to add a new board [54:37] member who's literally a MAGA [54:38] Republican. They want [54:40] to literally add a MAGA [54:41] Republican to this. [54:44] >> That's the last public [54:45] comment. [54:46] >> All righty, thank you. All [54:47] right, [54:49] this meeting is adjourned. [54:51] Everyone have a great rest [54:52] of your day. Thank you.