1 00:00:41,900 --> 00:00:44,020 And so, for the three, 2 00:00:48,170 --> 00:00:51,230 to see their say, how can they change something? 3 00:00:51,230 --> 00:00:56,070 I'm going to talk about it and that's in a growth area, especially for yourselves. 4 00:00:56,070 --> 00:00:58,970 I'm going to give you a little background. 5 00:01:00,850 --> 00:01:01,610 I'm going to talk about the progress. 6 00:01:02,250 --> 00:01:02,690 There you go. 7 00:01:04,570 --> 00:01:07,590 We've really been surprised when we're talking about it here. 8 00:01:10,490 --> 00:01:15,510 We've been talking about a lot of growth here in the senior year. 9 00:01:16,270 --> 00:01:18,150 We've been using things to pick that area as we know. 10 00:01:18,150 --> 00:01:28,840 I don't know, it's a good place. 11 00:01:29,220 --> 00:01:33,420 I don't know, it's a good place. 12 00:01:33,420 --> 00:01:36,960 I think I'm not trying to get it. 13 00:01:37,260 --> 00:01:37,740 I don't know. 14 00:01:38,860 --> 00:01:40,860 People in a hack and do it, I can't. 15 00:01:43,610 --> 00:01:43,850 I can't. 16 00:01:43,850 --> 00:01:45,230 It's the only thing I can do. 17 00:01:48,070 --> 00:01:49,050 They all look terrible. 18 00:01:49,370 --> 00:01:51,410 They just accept what they're talking about. 19 00:01:52,190 --> 00:01:52,590 I don't know. 20 00:01:53,230 --> 00:01:53,770 They're probably not. 21 00:01:55,990 --> 00:01:57,110 They're not. 22 00:01:58,530 --> 00:01:58,850 They're not. 23 00:01:58,850 --> 00:02:02,530 This is how I start I don't know anything. 24 00:02:02,810 --> 00:02:03,650 They don't know anything. 25 00:02:04,010 --> 00:02:04,990 I don't know anything. 26 00:02:05,090 --> 00:02:05,770 I don't know anything. 27 00:02:05,950 --> 00:02:06,510 They don't know anything. 28 00:02:06,510 --> 00:02:06,590 You know, I'm sorry. 29 00:02:07,450 --> 00:02:08,110 Hey, did you tell us? 30 00:02:08,430 --> 00:02:08,830 Yeah, did you? 31 00:02:09,090 --> 00:02:10,030 Well, we can shoot. 32 00:02:10,190 --> 00:02:12,070 I think they didn't know you'd be on the Internet. 33 00:02:12,590 --> 00:02:14,550 But I think we're not able to know it. 34 00:02:14,870 --> 00:02:16,090 They didn't know. 35 00:02:16,090 --> 00:02:16,190 I don't know. 36 00:02:16,190 --> 00:02:16,570 They wanted to know. 37 00:02:16,790 --> 00:02:18,090 I don't know, I think they didn't just think we're going to know. 38 00:02:18,890 --> 00:02:20,850 You know, commercial, I don't know. 39 00:02:21,450 --> 00:02:21,490 But yeah. 40 00:02:22,070 --> 00:02:23,010 I think they didn't know. 41 00:02:23,650 --> 00:02:24,550 We don't know. 42 00:02:24,590 --> 00:02:25,230 What do you mean? 43 00:02:25,270 --> 00:02:25,370 That is the reason. 44 00:02:26,930 --> 00:02:28,110 Is that the reason? 45 00:03:54,730 --> 00:03:58,290 I'm not using the important in a name, but I'm on it. 46 00:03:58,290 --> 00:04:03,290 I appreciate it. 47 00:04:07,650 --> 00:04:08,030 I appreciate it. 48 00:04:09,690 --> 00:04:13,750 I appreciate it. 49 00:04:17,780 --> 00:04:18,960 You're another one of us leaving. 50 00:04:20,100 --> 00:04:21,200 They see me though. 51 00:04:22,580 --> 00:04:24,620 It's calling me dawda. 52 00:04:25,660 --> 00:04:26,940 They have roll gold place. 53 00:04:32,300 --> 00:04:33,720 It's not calling off of them. 54 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:37,040 Well let's just have them catch them. 55 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:55,040 Thank you for allowing us to go to here today to do the business of Louisiana, please guide us in our decisions so we can do the best for those we represent. 56 00:04:55,040 --> 00:05:01,180 I'd like you to keep a washful eye with this sort of this country, both here in a bro, and here in this land we pray. 57 00:05:05,990 --> 00:05:06,610 It's a lie. 58 00:05:07,230 --> 00:05:14,610 In the United States of America, and to the Republic, for which it stands, one nation, under God, 59 00:05:16,700 --> 00:05:18,040 in justice for all. 60 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:25,320 Thank you. 61 00:05:25,900 --> 00:05:25,900 Thank 62 00:05:40,970 --> 00:05:41,330 you. 63 00:05:41,330 --> 00:05:42,230 I'll do my best. 64 00:05:43,010 --> 00:05:46,010 I'll do my best. 65 00:05:46,750 --> 00:05:47,210 I'll do my best. 66 00:05:51,140 --> 00:05:51,260 I'll do my best. 67 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:52,480 I'll do my best. 68 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:53,240 I'll do my best. 69 00:05:55,740 --> 00:05:57,120 I'll do my best. 70 00:05:57,120 --> 00:05:59,640 but I'm not sure which ones they all 71 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:05,640 end up in a state of name if you would have money. 72 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:10,520 Well, you can set that out in Taurina. 73 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:11,240 You are right. 74 00:06:11,380 --> 00:06:13,000 Yeah, that's how you do it though. 75 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:14,140 I'm very curious. 76 00:06:14,500 --> 00:06:15,540 Andy, you're not interested. 77 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:17,680 Thank you. 78 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:21,260 You're a constitutional officer. 79 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:21,940 We got that. 80 00:06:22,100 --> 00:06:22,420 Thank you. 81 00:06:23,260 --> 00:06:24,700 That's not the agenda. 82 00:06:28,610 --> 00:06:29,390 So move the chair. 83 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:33,900 The motion to adopt agenda in a second. 84 00:06:33,900 --> 00:06:37,000 All of the folks that I have, 85 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:42,660 yeah, as well, I've probably come in and pray that anybody 86 00:06:42,660 --> 00:06:49,980 would wish to come back a state to the board, but anything that's not on their agenda 87 00:06:49,980 --> 00:06:55,640 and I come to the podium to stage a name of the dress and keep it to three minutes if you 88 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:56,300 would, 89 00:06:58,340 --> 00:06:59,720 and you want to wish them to speak, 90 00:07:04,410 --> 00:07:08,830 closely, positive coming in prayer, everyone 91 00:07:08,830 --> 00:07:15,500 have in it, recommendations coming forward and everything like that. 92 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:22,280 Next agenda item is, I have information items presentation by Thomas Johnson, Gold, Career Education. 93 00:07:28,930 --> 00:07:31,970 Good afternoon, Mr. Chairman and members of the board. 94 00:07:32,010 --> 00:07:33,050 I'm Laura Richardson. 95 00:07:33,390 --> 00:07:37,110 I'll teach coordinator for Dalton Career Rate, Thomas Jefferson and Louisa County. 96 00:07:37,110 --> 00:07:38,230 This is Barbara Wilson. 97 00:07:38,830 --> 00:07:42,870 She's the Chief Examiner for GED for Pearson D. 98 00:07:42,870 --> 00:07:47,450 We have a presentation for you this afternoon. 99 00:07:48,190 --> 00:07:48,650 Don't move it. 100 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:06,220 Here we are. 101 00:08:06,380 --> 00:08:09,780 We are Thomas Jefferson Delta Career Education at the Louise Center. 102 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:11,800 We are based at 8.715. 103 00:08:11,820 --> 00:08:13,900 David's Highway at the turn of Ed Center. 104 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:18,240 We have GD classes at the center which is free. 105 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:21,880 We have Tuesdays and Thursday mornings from 9 a.m. to 12 noon. 106 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:26,640 We have Tuesdays and Thursday evenings from 5.30 to 8.30 p.m. 107 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:32,480 The subject matter that's taught is brought we have four basic things, math, science, 108 00:08:32,860 --> 00:08:38,180 social status and language arts. We are reasoning in mathematical reasoning, algebra, geometry, 109 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:42,280 reasoning through science, reasoning through social status, and the use of the computer, 110 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:49,880 because the GEDT has now totally computer-based. Career pathways is a part of our learning 111 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:55,400 links, and career pathways is something we do to help you to help choose a career, in the 112 00:08:55,400 --> 00:09:01,460 upon how you score on your GED test as a quick type of diploma that you will be receiving. 113 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:07,520 We have human metrics, we have bot learning which tells you how you learn. 114 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:12,700 This is what this will do in Virginia Wizard and we are going to solve where a lot in 115 00:09:12,700 --> 00:09:13,100 page. 116 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:19,320 We have plug in Virginia which is through PVCC, it's customer service training in national 117 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:19,980 certification. 118 00:09:19,980 --> 00:09:28,600 It's nine credits through Piedmont of Virginia Career Readiness Certification, which is also recognized throughout the country. 119 00:09:29,100 --> 00:09:33,900 Computer skills and certification can re-experation and tools for the workplace of this. 120 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:36,860 Meetings and workshops with local employees. 121 00:09:37,060 --> 00:09:40,980 We also tried to help you find a job through workforce. 122 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:46,720 The new GAGD exam, Ms. Wilson. 123 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:47,340 This 124 00:09:50,220 --> 00:09:55,880 is the second year, we're into this testing series, the GED exam practice was 125 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:56,520 Peckler. 126 00:09:57,120 --> 00:10:03,020 As January 1 of 2014, it went to a completely computer-based test. 127 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:08,080 The hint we have to teach computer skills to our adult learners. 128 00:10:08,620 --> 00:10:15,500 Most of our testers are 35 and older, and they do not have computer skills, so we have 129 00:10:15,500 --> 00:10:16,920 work very hard on this. 130 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:26,720 Each test now costs $30, $10 for retakes, but during January 26th through February 28th we run in a special. 131 00:10:27,420 --> 00:10:37,440 Then this comes from GED from Washington DC, anyone who signs up the first time testers, they will save $10 on their tests, which is actually excellent. 132 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:43,640 They don't sign up with us anymore, they used to walk into my office and sign up to take a test right there. 133 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:48,700 It doesn't happen. They have to have a computer or access to a computer which we help them with. 134 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:51,540 We log them in. They have to have a credit card. 135 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:55,700 Or they go to Walmart. They get a prepaid card or something to that effect. 136 00:10:56,080 --> 00:11:00,580 And we do it that way. We also can buy vouchers which we do for our students. 137 00:11:01,020 --> 00:11:06,740 If they complete the testing or pre-testing and skills with our students, then we'll pay for them to test. 138 00:11:06,740 --> 00:11:14,760 The scores range from 100 to 250 is passing, and they receive their credentials when they pass the four exam. 139 00:11:15,660 --> 00:11:18,420 Now, the four exams, really interesting. 140 00:11:19,580 --> 00:11:21,280 Now, everybody has to write an essay. 141 00:11:21,700 --> 00:11:26,500 Used to be, we had a writing exam, and they asked for a full-page essay. 142 00:11:27,020 --> 00:11:29,520 Now, they have to write an essay on the reading test. 143 00:11:29,700 --> 00:11:35,160 They have to write a response, pretty extended on the science, and extended response in social studies. 144 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:37,960 And they do need a lot of computer skills. 145 00:11:38,680 --> 00:11:43,960 This graphic here shows to you the types of computer skills that they need. 146 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:49,340 You need to be able to multiple choice, drop-downs, fill in the blanks, drag and drop, 147 00:11:49,560 --> 00:11:52,860 do the hot spots and short answers on the various testing. 148 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:57,680 This is very problematic if you are 55 years old like I was going to read. 149 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:03,360 And you have it then in the classroom since 1976, when you were 16 years old. 150 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:09,180 And the only computer that you have is maybe a smart phone and you're 13 year old told you how to use. 151 00:12:09,940 --> 00:12:14,480 So we have to do a lot of computer testing and training. 152 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:20,820 They have to be able to use the mouse and the keyboard and they have to be able to read the text on the screen. 153 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:22,660 Some folks can't do that. 154 00:12:22,780 --> 00:12:25,460 I have to put yellow screens and top of their screens. 155 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:27,620 It's all kinds of craziness going on in my world. 156 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:30,500 They have to be able to drag and drop answers. 157 00:12:30,500 --> 00:12:38,800 So they have to be able to fix the calculator, there's on the screen, so you have to be able to pull the calculator down, use it on the screen. 158 00:12:39,680 --> 00:12:44,880 They have to ask for a handheld calculator not having anybody do that, but we can do that. 159 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:49,040 They have to be able to navigate between the tasks, they have to be able to type. 160 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:54,060 And if you're a hot and pector, it can take away from what you do. 161 00:12:54,060 --> 00:13:01,800 So they're working with a lot of interactive information and things like that and cutting and copying and pasting. 162 00:13:02,140 --> 00:13:09,140 And a lot of folks do not know how to copy and paste, so we spend a great deal of time, not just on social studies, reading sites, social studies, 163 00:13:09,420 --> 00:13:11,020 but teaching their computers stuff. 164 00:13:13,380 --> 00:13:20,300 Loans are going to talk to you more about what they need to do to get ready, the classes, free classes, that's next thing. 165 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:24,100 Are you prepared for the G&E Testio 10 classes? 166 00:13:24,700 --> 00:13:27,560 2s and 3s and mornings 9s to 12 noon? 167 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:32,480 2s and 3s to evenings from 530 to 830 p.m. 168 00:13:32,820 --> 00:13:36,380 Preared to go for your class to come to this alternative education center, 169 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:37,740 Louisiana County Public Schools. 170 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:40,260 We are the only flight trailer out there. 171 00:13:40,580 --> 00:13:44,000 So we are easy to find when you turn in, we are facing you. 172 00:13:44,340 --> 00:13:49,320 Or you can go to www.adultslearn.org and click on learning links. 173 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:58,160 Yes, you do have to pay for a practice test now. All this is done through Pearson V, a practice test will cost you $6 per test. 174 00:13:58,900 --> 00:14:03,320 The JD test offers two score levels, and that Mrs. Wilson explains that. 175 00:14:04,900 --> 00:14:09,920 One of the things that we didn't have on our previous JD testing, it was a flat score. 176 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:25,020 So we had a lot of young people who would go from us to PVCC or J. Sergeant Reynolds or any of our Virginia community college system, and they were trying to file for scholarships or grants and things. 177 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:29,060 If they had a certain score, it had to be a really high score, they would qualify. 178 00:14:29,060 --> 00:14:34,980 But what the National GED testing service did on this now, we now have two divisions. 179 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:41,160 So, they get, when they roll out to them, they get either they pass with honors or 180 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:43,580 they pass with just an equivalency. 181 00:14:44,020 --> 00:14:49,220 Those that pass with honors, it will tell them straight up, go to college, do something. 182 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:57,260 And we encourage all of our folks to move on when there it is to go to community college to 183 00:14:57,260 --> 00:14:59,980 We've reached the technical center to, um... 184 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:29,880 Hey, Tech, and Charlottesville, to get certifications and stuff. In Louise County, you gentlemen are probably very fully aware that we have between 4 and 6,000 adults who do not have a GED. I don't have the last figure right since it's figured right in my head. And those folks are not our young people. We've done an excellent job with Louise County College schools and keeping our young people in, but we do have a lot of folks who are 40 and older. 185 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:38,460 who need to reeducate themselves and we found this particularly when we had lost a couple of 186 00:15:38,460 --> 00:15:43,660 folks our businesses with the IDA down in the industrial development center. People have 187 00:15:43,660 --> 00:15:47,760 worked there since they had left high school for whatever reason and they were there for 188 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:54,260 15 or 20 years and then the buildings left or the companies left and they didn't have anywhere 189 00:15:54,260 --> 00:15:59,820 to go. They tried to go into the workforce and in today's workforce without even a high school 190 00:15:59,820 --> 00:16:06,680 the public. People won't even look at you. The military, you cannot go into the military 191 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:13,600 with just a GED even. You have to have a full-flage high-speed plumber or if you have 192 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:18,600 a GED, you have to almost have an associate before they look at you and then you have to 193 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:23,780 take the ass out and see if you place and you have to place extremely hot. Because at this 194 00:16:23,780 --> 00:16:25,740 point, our military is highly competitive. 195 00:16:27,140 --> 00:16:32,260 Well, I want to thank you for your time and I'm also going to just wrap up, but I know 196 00:16:32,260 --> 00:16:36,660 we spoke before meeting started this evening to several of you in Mr. Jentnery. 197 00:16:36,740 --> 00:16:41,260 I was talking about one of the statements in my health right after the earthquake a couple 198 00:16:41,260 --> 00:16:42,160 years ago. 199 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:48,520 And I will tell you folks, I have had young men, older men, and women, stand at my desk 200 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:48,980 in cry. 201 00:16:49,460 --> 00:16:53,700 Because they never thought they would be able to accomplish this and we're very proud of what 202 00:16:53,700 --> 00:16:54,240 we do. 203 00:16:54,240 --> 00:17:02,280 And we just wanted to make you aware and at any time that we can help you or help one of your neighbors, please call us. 204 00:17:02,500 --> 00:17:05,460 We'll go and meet with them. That's specifically what love with us. 205 00:17:06,060 --> 00:17:09,580 And I have two young people coming in and the morning to test. 206 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:13,100 We're open right now because we're in places to see services. 207 00:17:13,620 --> 00:17:18,340 We're open on Mondays and Wednesdays because I'm no longer teaching full time. 208 00:17:18,620 --> 00:17:20,080 I'm into GED full time. 209 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:26,200 So we're there Mondays and Wednesdays from 92 and we want to be busy. We truly do. 210 00:17:29,770 --> 00:17:34,590 Thank you, Ms. Wilson. And we operate. We operate because we are always the county adult career 211 00:17:34,590 --> 00:17:39,410 education as a part of the Thomas Jefferson adult career education of Charlottesville. 212 00:17:39,590 --> 00:17:43,510 Which is a part of the Thomas Jefferson planning district. 213 00:17:43,930 --> 00:17:48,410 Therefore you have the Thomas Jefferson and done the career education. That's how we get our name. 214 00:17:48,410 --> 00:17:53,870 We are Louisa Bates. I'm the Louisa representative. We are funded by federal and state grants within 215 00:17:53,870 --> 00:17:59,390 time from Louisa County Public Schools. And this is how you contact us. And if you can't remember 216 00:17:59,390 --> 00:18:04,750 in of these numbers, just call to school board office central office. And just like I need GED, 217 00:18:04,870 --> 00:18:09,650 they put you right through. And if I'm not there, you would get a voice message. And I'm going to tell 218 00:18:09,650 --> 00:18:14,710 you a very pleasant voice message because we want you to come in and send people to us. We do have a 219 00:18:36,310 --> 00:18:44,570 Thank you for your time. 220 00:18:45,310 --> 00:18:46,690 And thank you, Felicity. 221 00:18:48,050 --> 00:18:48,950 Thank you, Mr. Rich, 222 00:18:50,110 --> 00:18:51,030 I'd like to make a comment. 223 00:18:53,330 --> 00:18:54,590 I'd like to make a comment. 224 00:18:55,190 --> 00:18:59,190 I've had the privilege of knowing some of the folks in the Canada's past or D.D. 225 00:18:59,390 --> 00:19:01,470 And it's just no word for it to describe it. 226 00:19:01,770 --> 00:19:03,470 But most of them, they tell their story, 227 00:19:03,910 --> 00:19:04,950 you will cry. 228 00:19:05,890 --> 00:19:07,310 It's that important to them. 229 00:19:07,310 --> 00:19:08,430 So thank you for what you did. 230 00:19:08,510 --> 00:19:10,250 I really do appreciate it. 231 00:19:10,250 --> 00:19:15,410 And I was simply to applaud you and thank you for all that you do too. 232 00:19:15,590 --> 00:19:22,610 I'm just curious, but I think I know the answer, but you said that it's all done by computer now. 233 00:19:23,450 --> 00:19:24,470 Everywhere in the state. 234 00:19:24,750 --> 00:19:25,690 No, but here's the number. 235 00:19:26,650 --> 00:19:27,170 No, no. 236 00:19:27,530 --> 00:19:28,370 Nation line. 237 00:19:28,590 --> 00:19:31,010 They look to you if you're testing a jargon. 238 00:19:31,550 --> 00:19:35,090 And we tested English and Spanish. 239 00:19:35,090 --> 00:19:55,150 And we have worked with a lot of transit, particularly coming out on call pepper, they come down and see us, because right now I have two seats, I'm really small, and when they come to see me, they come because it's one on one, and I hope I make it difficult. 240 00:19:55,150 --> 00:19:57,730 I think that would make a difference, actually. 241 00:19:59,010 --> 00:19:59,730 Oh, Ms. Bals. 242 00:19:59,810 --> 00:20:00,050 Yes. 243 00:20:00,470 --> 00:20:02,470 Ms. Balsen, thank you all for coming. 244 00:20:03,850 --> 00:20:07,090 On one of the pages, you said, writing is required. 245 00:20:07,990 --> 00:20:10,210 No longer, we teach cursive in some of the schools. 246 00:20:11,510 --> 00:20:14,170 How did they write now, is it? 247 00:20:17,120 --> 00:20:20,000 Mr. Balsen, when we work with our students in the classroom, 248 00:20:21,060 --> 00:20:26,660 they work, first of all, we teach writing skills and then we work with them on their 249 00:20:26,660 --> 00:20:33,320 and ship. If they so choose to learn curses, even at the adult age, I'm certainly willing 250 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:36,940 to teach them just like I was trying to teach Braden how to do it last semester when I 251 00:20:36,940 --> 00:20:37,420 had him. 252 00:20:39,780 --> 00:20:43,920 I think curses is an arm and I love curses and that's what I do and when I taught 253 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:48,040 seven great last semester, I had a lot of students who lost patience with me but I said, 254 00:20:48,360 --> 00:20:52,160 can you read this letter, this letter, this letter, this letter puts together, you got your work. 255 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:59,600 But their responses are done on the computer, so but when we work with them in the classroom, 256 00:21:00,140 --> 00:21:05,100 all their pre-writes and things are done, and Ms. Diana, if they so choose to do 257 00:21:05,100 --> 00:21:07,460 in cursive, that is certainly welcome. 258 00:21:08,380 --> 00:21:10,920 I think it's sad that you're getting away from that. 259 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:12,680 But thank you. 260 00:21:12,740 --> 00:21:13,100 I'm happy. 261 00:21:18,140 --> 00:21:22,460 Before we move on to the next item, I need to back up. 262 00:21:22,460 --> 00:21:30,520 to recognize and I fail to recognize the Durban Act in County Attorney to all most 263 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:31,800 long to get back. 264 00:21:32,660 --> 00:21:33,820 Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 265 00:21:35,020 --> 00:21:35,360 Good evening. 266 00:21:37,420 --> 00:21:41,700 All right, next to the end of the item is industrial development, I'm going to update 267 00:21:41,700 --> 00:21:45,760 if you would let that go. 268 00:21:49,060 --> 00:21:49,800 Good afternoon. 269 00:21:49,940 --> 00:21:51,220 My name's Bob Clark. 270 00:21:51,260 --> 00:21:54,360 I'm a board member of Industrial Development Authority. 271 00:21:55,360 --> 00:22:00,760 Most of the asked us a childman has been in sunny Florida, so he has to be a fear to 272 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:02,800 night for us to portal the update. 273 00:22:04,380 --> 00:22:09,380 There's not a whole lot, but when I'm sure Andy has been in the way, has been keeping 274 00:22:09,380 --> 00:22:19,000 you all posted on what's happening, we've got the Cavalier Produce Project, which is developing 275 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:27,020 go fast into the burnt cliff of business park on again is, I think the bids are like going 276 00:22:27,020 --> 00:22:33,000 for bids on construction, but that's what this weekend is that right on next week. 277 00:22:34,180 --> 00:22:40,120 So, let's ask those in the end and working with a group for possibly a nursing home or 278 00:22:40,120 --> 00:22:47,960 self-care home that looks like it's moving well and they're actually looking at a lot of 279 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:54,020 east of town on right 22 at this point now. We would have liked to gotten me to library 280 00:22:54,820 --> 00:22:58,960 track, but that doesn't seem to really, really suit them. 281 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:06,940 As far as the rail park is concerned, nothing really developing by our end is got like one prospect 282 00:23:06,940 --> 00:23:12,760 that he's been working with, but certainly nothing concrete there yet. 283 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:15,460 I'll be glad to entertain any questions. 284 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:21,860 I noticed most of the haveices, not here tonight, but I would like to thank him for, well, 285 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:28,900 he was at Laezon all year and I appreciate the attendance and I'll put him in this very 286 00:23:28,900 --> 00:23:29,660 few meetings. 287 00:23:30,500 --> 00:23:32,420 And we'll thank him for that. 288 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:35,520 His brothers thank Andy for all the health details. 289 00:23:35,700 --> 00:23:39,100 He does most of the league work and all the hard work. 290 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:40,540 Any questions? 291 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:50,360 question of law and those, trying to meet Canada, we have John Means on the 29th of 292 00:23:50,360 --> 00:23:50,680 the day. 293 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:56,320 Yes, we do, and hopefully all of y'all can attend, it should be real good and be at 294 00:23:56,320 --> 00:24:02,500 the venue community bank, at the 12th of the day, the corporate son, and we're from each 295 00:24:02,500 --> 00:24:03,540 near the one of you. 296 00:24:04,260 --> 00:24:04,700 Thank you. 297 00:24:04,900 --> 00:24:06,960 Are we also going to have we have for it? 298 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:07,960 Yes, we are. 299 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:11,560 and most powers is just going to take over right now. 300 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:12,860 Let me send that. 301 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:14,720 Thank you. 302 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:15,040 Thank you. 303 00:24:15,140 --> 00:24:15,920 Thank you. 304 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:20,580 Good evening. 305 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:22,200 Ladies and gentlemen of the board. 306 00:24:22,220 --> 00:24:23,480 My name is Jared Powers. 307 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:27,000 For those who haven't met me on the Airport Manager, 308 00:24:27,300 --> 00:24:28,420 been there for about a year. 309 00:24:30,260 --> 00:24:31,180 I enjoy it a good deal. 310 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:33,700 A lot of it's been kind of scary as well. 311 00:24:35,500 --> 00:24:38,280 But I would like to start off by thinking, 312 00:24:38,780 --> 00:24:41,840 each and every board member, because without the support of the board, 313 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:49,560 there is no airports, both financially and through the support that has been given to the 314 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:55,780 airport since it opened in the 80s. We just seek to exist without you guys. It definitely 315 00:24:55,780 --> 00:24:59,440 appreciates the support and the help and the advice that has been given to me over the past 316 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:07,340 year. At the airport, our traffic, our air traffic is up just a little bit from what it was 317 00:25:07,340 --> 00:25:11,740 last year. I think this weather has pretty well everything to do with it. 318 00:25:11,740 --> 00:25:17,280 There's just more days where you're able to fly, so that's been great. 319 00:25:18,660 --> 00:25:26,100 To address the RFP that we had to search for a fixed-based operator at the airport, we do have 320 00:25:26,100 --> 00:25:33,480 a company that's Cavalier Aviation LLC and it's owned and operated by Greg Armstrong. 321 00:25:34,820 --> 00:25:41,620 So far so good, he's on a probationary period as of right now, but because the customer 322 00:25:41,620 --> 00:25:46,920 service has been there. He's done a fantastic job. He shows us our PNL, his PNL statements 323 00:25:48,100 --> 00:25:55,140 from his work over the past four months, I believe it is. He's nearing the end of that 324 00:25:55,140 --> 00:26:02,320 probationary period, so what will happen is the idea of evaluating his progress in his success 325 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:08,940 and decide whether or not to keep it. He is providing aircraft maintenance and fuel services. 326 00:26:08,940 --> 00:26:16,760 And so far so good, it's been a pleasure to work with you keeps the airport in a clean, you know, never had a clean. 327 00:26:18,120 --> 00:26:21,940 The airport does have several projects that are going on. 328 00:26:22,780 --> 00:26:28,060 The first of which is the runway light taxiway light and bulk rehabilitation. 329 00:26:30,140 --> 00:26:33,320 To be honest, the runway lights we have there now, they work, they work fine. 330 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:39,320 But the state of Virginia is no longer going to support maintaining them. 331 00:26:40,220 --> 00:26:42,740 They no longer make it factor apart for them anymore. 332 00:26:43,380 --> 00:26:47,160 These lights are made to break away if someone runs in, so it doesn't damage an airplane. 333 00:26:48,340 --> 00:26:51,340 And as of right now, they're approximately $400 a piece. 334 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:57,940 So, you know, we have the occasional bump into a little lawnmower or a pile of snow off the runway. 335 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:02,520 What really adds up is the state of Virginia and the Federal Aviation Administration 336 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:05,580 administration or no longer going to support us. 337 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:07,520 So that's where this project comes in. 338 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:10,880 It's a three-phase project or in the second phase of it now. 339 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:22,420 The project is funded, 98% or 96% by the federal aviation administration, 2% from the Virginia 340 00:27:22,420 --> 00:27:25,540 Department of Aviation with a remaining 2% falling locally. 341 00:27:25,540 --> 00:27:33,000 So, in a nutshell, it's approximately $30,000 locally for a 1.4 million dollar project. 342 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:36,960 So, it's actually, it's a pretty good deal. 343 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:41,600 We definitely like being, being having access to that. 344 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:46,760 The face that we're in right now, we just finished up, about to finish up the design. 345 00:27:46,940 --> 00:27:48,040 It's in the engineer's hands. 346 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:50,620 The environmental assessment has been passed. 347 00:27:50,620 --> 00:27:57,380 So, there's no additional ditches or catch ponds or anything like that that needs to be installed. 348 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:00,700 The infrastructure we have now, do it just fine. 349 00:28:02,120 --> 00:28:07,060 And that should finish up the design should finish up probably the end of February beginning March. 350 00:28:07,740 --> 00:28:12,360 Then next we'll obviously come bids, once the design is finished followed by the actual construction. 351 00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:21,960 The terminal building is the second part or the second major construction project that we're 352 00:28:22,900 --> 00:28:24,240 undertaking at the airport. 353 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:30,260 For us, the terminal building is the first impression of the county. 354 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:35,660 If a business flies in to the airport or if an individual that's looking to purchase land, 355 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:39,200 falls into the airport, it's a very first thing that they see. 356 00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:47,340 One of the examples that I gave is when the large attractive land was auctioned over near the lake this past summer. 357 00:28:47,540 --> 00:28:52,280 We had 17 aircrafts that flew in to bid on that property. 358 00:28:53,500 --> 00:28:55,760 We were the first people that they saw. 359 00:28:56,420 --> 00:29:00,020 We had the rental car set up for, we serviced all the aircraft. 360 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:00,960 They came from Charlotte. 361 00:29:01,140 --> 00:29:02,080 There were a few from Atlanta. 362 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:04,000 There was a couple from Buffalo, New York. 363 00:29:05,660 --> 00:29:07,640 We were the first thing that they saw. 364 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:11,120 So we think a new terminal of fresh terminal would do really good. 365 00:29:11,700 --> 00:29:14,820 Also, the terminal is a public use building, 366 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:19,420 being that it is funded 80% through the Virginia Department 367 00:29:19,420 --> 00:29:23,060 of Aviation with the 20% remaining being locally. 368 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:27,360 The building is public use for the non-flying public 369 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:30,640 for businesses in the area, any sort of community 370 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:32,680 organizations that want to use it. 371 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:36,280 Church, come up and use it. 372 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:42,340 The building is looking to be somewhere to the tune of 4,000 square feet possibly a little more. 373 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:48,820 That's per the $175 first square foot trend that's going now through terminals. 374 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:51,440 They're very commercial buildings, maintenance free. 375 00:29:52,260 --> 00:29:54,480 You have no roof in, you have block walls. 376 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:57,420 So, you know, they're very maintenance free. 377 00:29:57,620 --> 00:29:59,060 So, they go to them all pretty strong. 378 00:30:00,270 --> 00:30:14,870 The way the funding structure is looking for that project right now, it's going to be somewhere to, you know, 230,000 locally for approximately 1,500,000 dollars worth of terminal building. 379 00:30:16,610 --> 00:30:22,390 The phase of the project that we're in now, we just finished and passed the environmental assessment. 380 00:30:23,190 --> 00:30:26,750 There's going to be a little drainage work that will have to be done due to the extension 381 00:30:26,750 --> 00:30:32,170 of vehicle parking and things of this nature, but nothing major because the area has already 382 00:30:32,170 --> 00:30:34,570 been disturbed where the terminal is going to go. 383 00:30:34,790 --> 00:30:42,190 It's already been flattened out and created and the ditches are already in place, so the next 384 00:30:42,190 --> 00:30:47,770 phase of that will be the engineering architecture and site prep will be how it goes. 385 00:30:47,770 --> 00:30:50,650 So they'll engineer the site and see if they need any more drainage. 386 00:30:51,550 --> 00:30:56,570 The architecture to see what the building is actually going to look like, followed by 387 00:30:56,570 --> 00:31:02,710 pressing the site for that footprint vehicle parking and things along with those loans. 388 00:31:04,430 --> 00:31:06,370 Terminals are typically a three-year project. 389 00:31:06,570 --> 00:31:08,510 This one is a little bit further than that. 390 00:31:08,570 --> 00:31:17,710 I think because of some indecisiveness as to whether the need was there and whether we 391 00:31:17,710 --> 00:31:22,470 put the terminal where we want and how we want it. So the project has kind of went up and down 392 00:31:22,470 --> 00:31:25,830 but since I've been there I've taken offloaded. 393 00:31:28,790 --> 00:31:31,210 It's one project I haven't done in an airport. 394 00:31:31,230 --> 00:31:36,750 I've worked at airports since 2000 and I haven't built the terminal building and I haven't 395 00:31:36,750 --> 00:31:41,630 extended it our own way. So once I saw this project on the Capitol approved the plan, 396 00:31:42,010 --> 00:31:46,930 I was kind of a little bit busy. But the only other project that we have, this is going to take 397 00:31:46,930 --> 00:31:51,250 up across with the next two years of everything that the airport has after that is a field 398 00:31:51,250 --> 00:31:51,910 lighting. 399 00:31:52,030 --> 00:31:54,970 The airport itself at night is dark and I was, you know, as a pilot, 400 00:31:57,070 --> 00:31:58,970 it's a little sketchy 401 00:31:58,970 --> 00:31:59,610 going in there at night. 402 00:31:59,750 --> 00:32:00,330 It's just dark. 403 00:32:00,490 --> 00:32:05,570 There's not enough lighting around the hangers, around the taxiways, it's kind of difficult 404 00:32:05,570 --> 00:32:06,730 to get around. 405 00:32:07,550 --> 00:32:10,950 A fluid of saturday, we flew all the way across the state of Virginia, my best friend 406 00:32:10,950 --> 00:32:11,590 of the night. 407 00:32:11,590 --> 00:32:18,610 And when we came back in, we had a Mac like, we have a look there to try not to put a $200,000 airplane in the ditch. 408 00:32:19,510 --> 00:32:22,850 So that's been a bring that's also a 98% funded project. 409 00:32:23,170 --> 00:32:31,890 So locally, we'll be looking at $6,000 for almost that, you know, that's all I have. 410 00:32:32,050 --> 00:32:33,750 That's all we have going on right now. 411 00:32:34,010 --> 00:32:35,890 Thanks for letting us smooth. 412 00:32:36,170 --> 00:32:37,230 So we haven't had any accidents. 413 00:32:38,910 --> 00:32:39,390 Yes. 414 00:32:39,550 --> 00:32:41,130 So does anyone have any questions? 415 00:32:43,090 --> 00:32:43,650 Mr. Bala? 416 00:32:45,490 --> 00:32:46,810 You may not be able to answer. 417 00:32:46,910 --> 00:32:47,610 They must have cleared. 418 00:32:48,210 --> 00:32:54,570 But when we get these, I guess, grants from the federal and state, yes. 419 00:32:54,770 --> 00:32:55,230 Attaches. 420 00:32:56,550 --> 00:32:59,050 What are the requirements for us? 421 00:32:59,350 --> 00:33:04,730 For the two percent and for the twenty percent that we have to pay, are there some 422 00:33:04,730 --> 00:33:07,310 strings attached to it from the feds and from the state. 423 00:33:07,730 --> 00:33:16,150 From the feds, yes, basically what you have is called the FAA Master Agreement, which 424 00:33:16,150 --> 00:33:19,310 that agreement is signed in the day that the airport is open. 425 00:33:20,410 --> 00:33:24,670 And there's really no amendments to it unless a project will see typically $2 million 426 00:33:24,670 --> 00:33:26,850 that would typically stay about the same. 427 00:33:28,190 --> 00:33:34,710 The way that most of them are worded, it changes depending on some of the stuff that you 428 00:33:34,710 --> 00:33:42,110 But it basically says, in a nutshell, okay, we're going to give the FAA is going to give the county, you know, 1.2, 1.4 million dollars. 429 00:33:42,690 --> 00:33:51,930 You have to keep the doors open for at least two years, four years, just depending on, you know, their projected time to get their money back out of the CSV. 430 00:33:52,550 --> 00:33:56,850 So there are strings attached with your larger projects. 431 00:33:58,050 --> 00:34:02,690 It's typically the way that it works is your board, the airport, or the IDA will say, 432 00:34:02,690 --> 00:34:07,840 Yes, we want to do this project. It's voted upon and then at that point is when it's given to 433 00:34:08,830 --> 00:34:14,010 Given that the county it's already here for whoever sign off on that and per that approval 434 00:34:14,010 --> 00:34:21,490 We enter into them to the FAA agreement. The state of Virginia. It's not it's not like that 435 00:34:21,490 --> 00:34:23,200 The state of Virginia for the most part 436 00:34:24,810 --> 00:34:27,210 As long as you keep the airport safe 437 00:34:28,090 --> 00:34:35,930 and operational for as long as you viscally can, there's no penalty for foregoing that. 438 00:34:36,510 --> 00:34:42,830 Typically, it's an administrative fee, and that's based on the number of airplanes that you have at the airport. 439 00:34:43,890 --> 00:34:46,850 So, across that's 54 airplanes, 53 airplanes. 440 00:34:47,470 --> 00:34:49,370 So, there'll be a fee based on that. 441 00:34:49,390 --> 00:34:51,230 What that is, I have. 442 00:34:51,550 --> 00:34:52,330 I don't know. 443 00:34:53,850 --> 00:34:54,630 Thank you. 444 00:34:54,630 --> 00:34:55,710 You're welcome. 445 00:34:56,570 --> 00:34:57,130 Anyone else? 446 00:34:59,150 --> 00:34:59,990 It was correct. 447 00:35:00,930 --> 00:35:05,570 First of all, Jared, I would like to thank you for all that you do for the airport. 448 00:35:06,250 --> 00:35:11,670 I think that you've been very aggressive, especially with respect to bringing something. 449 00:35:12,890 --> 00:35:14,710 And that's very good. 450 00:35:15,710 --> 00:35:23,010 Did you have a read somewhere or see something about safety statistics about the lighting at the airport? 451 00:35:23,430 --> 00:35:23,910 Yes. 452 00:35:24,490 --> 00:35:32,330 The lighting system that we have, it's like those old Tommy lights I used to go Christmas trees. 453 00:35:32,890 --> 00:35:36,610 Every other light has a capacitor on it, which is basically like a battery. 454 00:35:38,510 --> 00:35:44,850 So, what's happened is these things, they're just an enormous amount of electricity that it takes to keep these lights operational. 455 00:35:46,630 --> 00:35:49,890 Just because you trip the breaker doesn't mean that the lights are safe, 456 00:35:49,890 --> 00:35:52,570 because those capacitors did still quite a bit of voltage. 457 00:35:53,130 --> 00:35:54,270 And across the United States, 458 00:35:54,410 --> 00:35:57,010 they've actually killed 10 airport workers 459 00:35:57,010 --> 00:36:01,490 over the past 20, 30 years from electrocution. 460 00:36:02,050 --> 00:36:05,770 So I mean, it's not funny, but that, I mean, those lights are... 461 00:36:05,770 --> 00:36:08,230 So when I saw the system that we had, I kind of shuddered 462 00:36:08,230 --> 00:36:10,790 because the airport that I came here from, 463 00:36:10,930 --> 00:36:13,470 I did a lighting project, and we had those same lights. 464 00:36:14,130 --> 00:36:17,750 And I was actually sweeping the grass off of the base 465 00:36:17,750 --> 00:36:26,510 like when I got into one that had a week and that was my very first time being shot and being 466 00:36:26,510 --> 00:36:31,650 as smart as I am. It happened two other times when I went out to go see what's the matter 467 00:36:31,650 --> 00:36:36,810 with this thing and I grabbed it and bang them, strike two, strike three was picking the broom on. 468 00:36:38,270 --> 00:36:44,370 So yeah, that was one of the statistics on them. The main thing right now is just so hard to find 469 00:36:46,370 --> 00:36:52,770 That's what makes this project a little unique to, once they take off the lighting that we have. 470 00:36:53,270 --> 00:36:57,250 That'll go towards that $30,000 cost on our side of the project. 471 00:36:57,390 --> 00:37:00,670 They'll actually sell the parts that are usable. 472 00:37:01,050 --> 00:37:03,590 So that'll help on the $30,000 might have been. 473 00:37:04,710 --> 00:37:05,250 Thank you. 474 00:37:05,390 --> 00:37:07,990 I think the other thing that I wanted to mention, 475 00:37:09,110 --> 00:37:14,710 And I may be a lot first of them that I definitely have a passion for aviation. 476 00:37:16,630 --> 00:37:22,870 I like the fact that the possibility of internal and that's just like to say my reasons 477 00:37:22,870 --> 00:37:31,410 for that and that is we are from the rural county that we're looking at forest areas. 478 00:37:31,410 --> 00:37:33,710 And to me, 479 00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:48,360 having an airport that is workable and presentable could raise the bar as to businesses that we can bring in and what we can do and I think it's great. 480 00:37:48,720 --> 00:37:49,780 We agree, thank you. 481 00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:50,940 We agree. 482 00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:56,900 You know, like not only is it the first impression that people get when they come into the county, 483 00:37:57,120 --> 00:38:01,580 but it's also it can serve as a meeting place to court. 484 00:38:01,580 --> 00:38:09,020 He's business, if you will, for a lack of a better turn to show them what we have and what's available here in the county. 485 00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:16,640 Just the other day, there was an employee that had to be in Dominion at Lake Amin. He had to be there. 486 00:38:18,180 --> 00:38:26,340 He went from Flagstaff, Arizona to Louisiana, and he went from Flagstaff to here. 487 00:38:26,340 --> 00:38:31,300 and there was, did whatever it was he had to do over there. 488 00:38:31,540 --> 00:38:34,520 They brought him back, and two and a half hours later he was back in his bed 489 00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:35,640 and flexed that version. 490 00:38:37,940 --> 00:38:41,780 And I mean, I thought that personally was impressive, definitely. 491 00:38:42,900 --> 00:38:47,360 And I respect that, that my interest, especially as a board member, 492 00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:51,580 the tax dollars that could come in as a result of having that. 493 00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:52,760 Yes. 494 00:38:52,760 --> 00:39:22,740 And let me I like to explain that if I can't briefly how the state of Virginia, that's where the bulk of the money comes from, that may change our equipment, that is something breaks, they pay 80% of the heat pump, that the heat pump tears up, it has zero to do with an airplane, but they pay 80% of the cost, and now where do they get that money, the state of Virginia realizes that, you know, the majority of the people of this room have absolutely no, they're not going to be on an airplane, they're not going to fly them out of pilot, they're not, they have nothing to do with aviation when it comes to right now. 495 00:39:23,860 --> 00:39:28,340 So, the state of Virginia has a faucet tax on all of its aviation fields. 496 00:39:29,020 --> 00:39:34,040 So, every gallon of fuel that's sold, of aviation fuel, in the state of Virginia has a faucet tax. 497 00:39:34,300 --> 00:39:37,860 So, you start thinking about places like Dallas, North Atlantic, Richmond. 498 00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:40,340 All this money gets lumped into a great big pot. 499 00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:45,260 And then air traffic registrations for people registering their airplanes in the state. 500 00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:47,360 That gets dumped into the state pot. 501 00:39:47,700 --> 00:39:51,340 And that's the money that we use for the 80% of the terminal building, 502 00:39:51,340 --> 00:39:57,960 80% of the takes the equipment. So in essence they're using they're charging the people who are 503 00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:02,660 flying the airplanes with maintaining its airplanes. That's where almost every bit of our 504 00:40:02,660 --> 00:40:05,180 funding comes from is from that fuel tax. 505 00:40:07,260 --> 00:40:10,960 So, you know, it alleviates a lot of the burden off 506 00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:16,140 the taxpayers who are going to have, you know, really know you used for the airport and they're 507 00:40:16,140 --> 00:40:20,400 lots so they're charging the people that she's allowed to maintain it. 508 00:40:23,530 --> 00:40:24,410 Hey, what else? 509 00:40:27,900 --> 00:40:28,060 Yeah. 510 00:40:29,240 --> 00:40:30,920 I appreciate you coming up with me. 511 00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:31,760 Enough. 512 00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:32,880 Thank you, sir. 513 00:40:37,390 --> 00:40:40,450 The next agenda item is more number. 514 00:40:40,790 --> 00:40:42,830 And I didn't see any internal committees. 515 00:40:43,350 --> 00:40:43,630 Just guys. 516 00:40:45,110 --> 00:40:47,610 I'm just like, you know, I'm just calling the youth. 517 00:40:49,940 --> 00:40:51,120 I thought you just answered that. 518 00:40:51,180 --> 00:40:55,760 But anyway, I think what I was looking at was maybe somebody's 519 00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:58,080 of these commences, 520 00:41:00,340 --> 00:41:07,840 they don't get used very much, looking at well, they are all needed, 521 00:41:08,220 --> 00:41:08,480 and they can, 522 00:41:12,020 --> 00:41:19,220 I know that at least the one that I'm all, they are a farce district, you 523 00:41:19,220 --> 00:41:26,380 know that's, we have met since I came away with this, and they haven't given me the 524 00:41:26,380 --> 00:41:38,440 So maybe some of them, at some point, may have a reason for keeping us, if we do get around 525 00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:40,340 to do it some way and foster it to you. 526 00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:48,020 But I was under the impression that some of these other committees were not being given 527 00:41:48,020 --> 00:41:49,080 very much easy. 528 00:41:52,780 --> 00:41:56,160 The Board has asked a number of questions regarding specific committees. 529 00:41:56,160 --> 00:42:01,800 If you don't share a number of the need on the period, an ad hoc or an ad hoc, or an 530 00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:02,380 ad hoc basis. 531 00:42:06,060 --> 00:42:11,880 There are some committees that have been pulled over the years, do meet less frequently 532 00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:13,220 by design. 533 00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:17,800 But if we do need to resolve any committees that are currently willing to do that, 534 00:42:17,900 --> 00:42:21,980 then we can work to request and evaluate any specific committee request. 535 00:42:23,860 --> 00:42:38,220 I guess once you have the committee established, it doesn't, I guess it's easier to leave it alone as opposed to getting rid of them and then have to do it. 536 00:42:38,220 --> 00:42:46,500 in this time. The other question that I had, Mr. Havassier asked with the listing of the 537 00:42:46,500 --> 00:42:54,340 different committees we had with the towns and places, and I noticed, Ms. Lowe, the Senator 538 00:42:54,340 --> 00:43:02,260 and Eva, to me, that there's a new, y'all working on a new project that kind of puts everything 539 00:43:02,260 --> 00:43:03,200 in one place. 540 00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:07,220 We've read now that we have two separate lessons on the website. 541 00:43:07,540 --> 00:43:09,500 One for four components and one for four committees. 542 00:43:09,820 --> 00:43:11,820 We're just going to combine that into a single table. 543 00:43:12,060 --> 00:43:13,560 We're going to list all available information. 544 00:43:14,540 --> 00:43:18,380 Sometimes, again, specific dates and times are not set for those prints 545 00:43:18,380 --> 00:43:19,640 to meet on an online basis. 546 00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:21,920 But basically, there's two lessons we'll be combined into. 547 00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:23,740 We want to do a click on each committee name. 548 00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:25,800 If you want to learn a different detail of that opportunity, 549 00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:28,500 but the committee will be the committee. 550 00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:30,660 The board number assigned to that committee. 551 00:43:30,660 --> 00:43:34,580 I'm not just assigned to that committee, and the treatments 552 00:43:34,580 --> 00:43:36,020 are going to be to see sales of that. 553 00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:38,620 Well, what's your assignment as an assignment? 554 00:43:39,180 --> 00:43:44,360 Hand some description of the different committees, but that didn't have. 555 00:43:44,820 --> 00:43:48,200 Some of them did have places, but not the time. 556 00:43:48,540 --> 00:43:50,020 That detail will still be available. 557 00:43:50,380 --> 00:43:52,140 Click the internet, each committee. 558 00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:57,700 So it will be summarized in a easier to read table with the details 559 00:43:57,700 --> 00:43:59,000 that will let them in. 560 00:43:59,660 --> 00:44:05,900 So the ones we have in the board package, the example of the arts on the board, it doesn't 561 00:44:05,900 --> 00:44:07,160 have any description there. 562 00:44:07,300 --> 00:44:10,160 Is that a description for that somewhere? 563 00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:13,460 If there are not existing descriptions, what does the work mean? 564 00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:14,840 The work is on this. 565 00:44:15,820 --> 00:44:17,520 Some of them are super big. 566 00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:20,260 There are a sign that we have things formed by as here. 567 00:44:21,820 --> 00:44:23,020 There are the name that it does. 568 00:44:23,220 --> 00:44:24,560 You know, about it's really bad. 569 00:44:29,910 --> 00:44:30,790 Something else? 570 00:44:31,410 --> 00:44:32,310 I did some email. 571 00:44:32,950 --> 00:44:37,430 I'd say in it, we could probably eliminate the labor advisory board. 572 00:44:38,150 --> 00:44:41,670 Because we do have a work on the county on the labor board at trustees. 573 00:44:41,670 --> 00:44:43,970 the pretty much in half of the duties. 574 00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:54,360 Is that the one mark that we talked about? 575 00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:58,080 That's the violation, you know. 576 00:44:58,080 --> 00:44:59,960 I've been here. 577 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:03,500 We're getting touched with my reps on the motion's on there, 578 00:45:05,970 --> 00:45:09,170 but anyone can't probably discuss anything. 579 00:45:09,670 --> 00:45:16,210 We need to make a motion to approve the committee's, I don't know what we're doing, but we're pretty familiar with the term. 580 00:45:16,470 --> 00:45:22,530 We need to use the term to make some assignments, and we do, we do put the process of the procedure. 581 00:45:22,990 --> 00:45:24,090 Yeah, we do it for the motion. 582 00:45:26,970 --> 00:45:27,710 We need that assessment. 583 00:45:28,310 --> 00:45:32,630 I'd like the motion to approve the term as committee assignments. 584 00:45:37,580 --> 00:45:38,340 Good plan. 585 00:45:39,060 --> 00:45:42,020 I have a motion inside of the company for building assignments. 586 00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:45,940 Oh, both say, call home. 587 00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:47,300 Call, say, I guess. 588 00:45:49,100 --> 00:45:50,120 All those things. 589 00:45:50,820 --> 00:45:55,600 Mr. Trump, do you have any, is there any objections to get rid of it? 590 00:45:55,860 --> 00:45:58,780 I mean, with the topic of getting rid of these things, I mean, doing anything after somebody 591 00:45:58,780 --> 00:45:59,760 said we get rid of one. 592 00:46:00,420 --> 00:46:02,880 There's no objections to get rid of one, one will get rid of it. 593 00:46:12,090 --> 00:46:24,010 If there's specifics, then we definitely want to get rid of what's the reason for not getting rid of. 594 00:46:24,090 --> 00:46:27,750 Now we're concerned that they're all syndicated members on a war. 595 00:46:28,410 --> 00:46:33,290 So I might have opportunity to talk to my member to do something like they would have discussed with you. 596 00:46:33,290 --> 00:46:35,490 Well, I've got one. It's been over twenty-seven years. 597 00:46:35,710 --> 00:46:36,410 I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. 598 00:46:36,970 --> 00:46:39,110 And I don't know if this is fun, but it will not be good. 599 00:46:39,150 --> 00:46:39,470 Yeah. 600 00:46:39,710 --> 00:46:42,250 Because she said she had lived in the last five six minutes. 601 00:46:42,290 --> 00:46:44,170 Other things that still are. 602 00:46:46,150 --> 00:46:48,670 So we're going to just look into them. 603 00:46:49,170 --> 00:46:50,770 I think we should not be like a big time. 604 00:46:51,070 --> 00:46:52,870 We'll talk about it in a few months and I'll do anything. 605 00:46:52,970 --> 00:46:54,010 Yeah, we need to. 606 00:46:54,010 --> 00:46:56,530 We need to address upon all of our community. 607 00:46:57,230 --> 00:47:03,350 But I think we need to be fair to the people that are actually appointed to that as well. 608 00:47:03,350 --> 00:47:10,730 I don't even want to bore and find out that it was done we were and the way we're trying to do it 609 00:47:10,730 --> 00:47:11,110 out. 610 00:47:11,290 --> 00:47:13,770 Just let that opportunity to get back with those people. 611 00:47:14,990 --> 00:47:19,490 So we should make that clear that we're trying to look at all of the committees and if we 612 00:47:19,490 --> 00:47:24,570 be able to bear with others then maybe we should talk to our reference and see how they 613 00:47:24,570 --> 00:47:24,990 feel. 614 00:47:25,950 --> 00:47:30,390 I'm just happy to reveal that the committees to save their or any like we discussed. 615 00:47:31,150 --> 00:47:36,610 One of being started with one of the week of trouble, deaf someone in them, we can give it a sample. 616 00:47:37,150 --> 00:47:43,690 But one of the people point to different, but some of them want to be all, maybe a little bit of a micro management going on, give it some though. 617 00:47:45,450 --> 00:47:49,230 Well, I'm this a son on the library for five years. 618 00:47:50,690 --> 00:47:55,350 And my wife has been on for twenty-some years. 619 00:47:56,430 --> 00:47:59,570 And she's the one suggested me that we could probably do it like this. 620 00:47:59,570 --> 00:48:00,490 So that's wrong. 621 00:48:03,950 --> 00:48:05,610 Well, it's not for you all. 622 00:48:05,610 --> 00:48:08,390 I don't my rep that I've had on now. 623 00:48:08,510 --> 00:48:10,490 I don't even know if she... 624 00:48:10,490 --> 00:48:11,350 She's pretty active. 625 00:48:11,810 --> 00:48:12,910 Of course, she's one of them, right? 626 00:48:13,470 --> 00:48:16,090 It would be nice to know how to get in touch with them. 627 00:48:17,910 --> 00:48:19,310 They were going to come to me. 628 00:48:19,930 --> 00:48:21,470 And as dean, I've done all front pages. 629 00:48:22,850 --> 00:48:23,950 What about read it? 630 00:48:24,970 --> 00:48:25,210 Why? 631 00:48:27,930 --> 00:48:30,850 Chair is looking for motion, then if people are going to... 632 00:48:30,850 --> 00:48:32,110 I don't want to have all this chair. 633 00:48:32,110 --> 00:48:35,570 Okay, we're just going to table that for right now. 634 00:48:37,170 --> 00:48:38,250 We'll treat that discussion. 635 00:48:40,010 --> 00:48:43,870 We'll get to the end of the time to 636 00:48:46,240 --> 00:48:47,400 get these kinds of questions about. 637 00:48:47,700 --> 00:48:47,880 Great. 638 00:48:48,060 --> 00:48:49,360 Let's read next month's agenda. 639 00:48:52,630 --> 00:48:56,010 All right. Next agenda, discussion and landfill operation. 640 00:48:56,430 --> 00:48:57,570 I'll be, Mr. Mons. 641 00:48:58,110 --> 00:48:59,190 2.1, 3 things. 642 00:48:59,690 --> 00:49:05,710 Just like the, like the, like the, like the director of, 643 00:49:06,150 --> 00:49:17,410 But it worked to, and I budget, just put the other budget, show on what it would cost us if we ran it ourselves, what the cost ain't gonna be, and just have it in our budget discussions. 644 00:49:18,950 --> 00:49:22,710 Take the capital piece of it, put it in the capital side, and operational side. 645 00:49:23,030 --> 00:49:27,550 But just, when we have a budget discussion, just put it in the budget, see what it would cost us. 646 00:49:27,550 --> 00:49:29,550 It can't, man, that's it. 647 00:49:30,570 --> 00:49:33,210 It's about as far as police is leaving the chairman. 648 00:49:33,750 --> 00:49:37,230 We put together some preliminary information that I saw and 649 00:49:37,230 --> 00:49:38,650 I think that might be a request that's evening. 650 00:49:38,850 --> 00:49:39,850 We're having a go over this evening. 651 00:49:40,050 --> 00:49:41,890 Or we can do a kind of budget deliberations as well. 652 00:49:42,270 --> 00:49:43,190 I'll be that brought up. 653 00:49:43,370 --> 00:49:44,890 Because I don't want to board the call of law. 654 00:49:45,050 --> 00:49:46,250 We do it on the budget process. 655 00:49:46,750 --> 00:49:47,750 We can put everything else. 656 00:49:47,930 --> 00:49:49,450 And I know you got that put the thing down. 657 00:49:49,790 --> 00:49:49,850 Sure. 658 00:49:49,850 --> 00:49:51,530 But I just do it on the budget process. 659 00:50:15,620 --> 00:50:19,340 Next agenda is resolution to approve the purchase of new 660 00:50:19,340 --> 00:50:20,500 of machine equipment. 661 00:50:22,510 --> 00:50:27,470 Just here we have the registrar and members of the Electoral Board here receiving as well 662 00:50:27,470 --> 00:50:32,270 as opposed to being in 32 blessings that information is largely also contained in the 663 00:50:32,270 --> 00:50:39,090 Resolution of the Association to request their to replace aging touch screen technology 664 00:50:39,090 --> 00:50:46,870 machines, which the state is made that we are not purpose in any more with new machines that 665 00:50:46,870 --> 00:50:50,490 are more liable and prevent some of the issues that we had in last fall. 666 00:50:50,490 --> 00:50:57,630 election and that quite frankly experienced statewide. The government has the total cost of this 667 00:50:57,630 --> 00:51:05,210 replacement would be just under $150,000. The government has proposed state funding to reimburse 668 00:51:05,210 --> 00:51:10,290 localities across the state for the purchase of these machines. That of course is subject to 669 00:51:10,290 --> 00:51:14,370 the general assembly of rural staff or here to answer questions. 670 00:51:15,050 --> 00:51:15,570 Well, 671 00:51:17,750 --> 00:51:20,770 last year's General Assembly got into this topic quite a bit. 672 00:51:22,490 --> 00:51:28,790 There are a session now, or is it leading to, and if we do, go ahead and submit the 150, 673 00:51:29,690 --> 00:51:32,350 or we jeopardize and anything by doing that to it. 674 00:51:33,210 --> 00:51:36,490 Don't believe we are, but in my instance, watching stuff up to the podium. 675 00:51:36,850 --> 00:51:42,570 It's not understanding that we need to move forward with a replacement process, 676 00:51:42,570 --> 00:51:44,710 because there's a multi-month lead time 677 00:51:44,710 --> 00:51:46,810 and we would need to have a replacement of machines 678 00:51:46,810 --> 00:51:49,090 and quickly enough to be able to use them 679 00:51:49,090 --> 00:51:50,890 in this year's elections, but it did not. 680 00:51:51,230 --> 00:51:53,350 I know we have to do something, 681 00:51:53,550 --> 00:51:56,210 but I'm just concerned about the reimbursement 682 00:51:56,210 --> 00:51:57,490 right over time. 683 00:51:59,430 --> 00:52:01,870 It's my understanding, this is a short session, 684 00:52:02,050 --> 00:52:05,190 this year that we'll know about February the 12th. 685 00:52:05,310 --> 00:52:07,850 And in the Governor's Initiative, 686 00:52:09,410 --> 00:52:11,830 I would suggest that we wait to decide 687 00:52:11,830 --> 00:52:15,970 what they're going to do because if you purchase between after January 1st you're not going 688 00:52:15,970 --> 00:52:16,630 to be reimbursed. 689 00:52:16,870 --> 00:52:22,070 So I think we should, as long as we know and this resolution says pending the what's 690 00:52:22,070 --> 00:52:22,890 the general assembly does. 691 00:52:23,050 --> 00:52:26,370 So I think we'll know about February the 12th and I've been in touch with our vendor. 692 00:52:27,630 --> 00:52:30,590 And he knows, you know, I've kept him in the loop. 693 00:52:30,610 --> 00:52:31,990 He knows we're looking at new machines. 694 00:52:32,510 --> 00:52:36,590 He knows that we're going to be at the ready as soon as we know what the general assembly 695 00:52:36,590 --> 00:52:37,410 is going to do. 696 00:52:37,430 --> 00:52:39,770 Hopefully if you all approve the resolution tonight. 697 00:52:41,250 --> 00:52:42,290 It's just... 698 00:52:42,290 --> 00:52:43,150 It's long. 699 00:52:45,130 --> 00:52:49,570 Certainly, Mr. Barkin got a very tough job as well as the electric board. 700 00:52:52,510 --> 00:52:55,410 Because we want to get it right. They want to get it right. 701 00:52:57,030 --> 00:52:59,490 And somehow they get equipment placed on it. 702 00:52:59,850 --> 00:53:01,590 They have no control over it. 703 00:53:02,790 --> 00:53:04,850 I'm certainly supportive of this. 704 00:53:04,850 --> 00:53:06,290 The only thing that I ask them is, 705 00:53:06,290 --> 00:53:12,630 markets have done this before, and the board does prove this that we make sure a prior 706 00:53:12,630 --> 00:53:17,710 to that we get them around on, like for example, she brought them down in my district, 707 00:53:17,970 --> 00:53:22,870 so people could use them because we've got to work with people to get a lot of people 708 00:53:22,870 --> 00:53:26,290 a lot of people got a lot of uneasiness, all of the one that these machines are available. 709 00:53:27,030 --> 00:53:33,090 So we've got to work with the public perception of these machines, but I'm definitely 710 00:53:33,090 --> 00:53:41,090 support this eventicment process better. I'm a little revived after watching the movie 711 00:53:41,090 --> 00:53:47,370 Selma and want to tell people that so people could vote and that sometimes we take 712 00:53:47,370 --> 00:53:53,330 that voting for granted. So I'm certain I'm bored. 713 00:53:56,820 --> 00:54:03,160 You got a 30 year veteran ticket on the board and you got a 30 year veteran ticket on the board and you got a 30 year veteran ticket. 714 00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:04,900 Is it, is it? 715 00:54:05,140 --> 00:54:05,460 It's a good thing. 716 00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:10,220 I've worked a pose a number of years and I know a little bit about equipment as well. 717 00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:22,340 But in this new system is there a pale-safe mean by which the regardless of what happens with machine that's going to be somewhere you can continue. 718 00:54:25,820 --> 00:54:31,540 The voting machine that we are, there are three vendors that are certified to sell in the state of Virginia. 719 00:54:32,700 --> 00:54:39,740 The voting machine that we use for our central absentee precinct in our office is probably the one that we would go with countywide. 720 00:54:40,380 --> 00:54:43,440 And that voting machine has an emergency ballot box on it. 721 00:54:43,660 --> 00:54:51,440 So if the machine shut down and it couldn't scan ballots, people would still be able to vote in voting booths around the precinct 722 00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:53,960 and put them into that emergency bin, 723 00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:56,080 and then when the machine will serve us, 724 00:54:56,960 --> 00:55:00,060 then in operation, you could scan the balance 725 00:55:00,060 --> 00:55:02,480 into the machine at that time. 726 00:55:03,100 --> 00:55:06,140 So you'll have people balanced out, a sensitive number. 727 00:55:06,220 --> 00:55:09,480 Well, well, I mean, this is going to be a total paper-based system. 728 00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:12,000 So every voter will vote on a piece of paper. 729 00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:17,600 So every precinct will be started with 80% or 90% 730 00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:19,880 of the voters in that precinct with balance on hand. 731 00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:22,540 So voting would never really stop. 732 00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:25,280 They would just be in, say, you know, 733 00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:27,780 six, eight, ten booths around the precinct, 734 00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:30,760 Mark and Balcons, and then just walk up to the machine and scan it in. 735 00:55:31,260 --> 00:55:33,500 So as in your opinion, that if you get these machines, 736 00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:36,560 I'll be now stopping the volume. 737 00:55:39,020 --> 00:55:39,380 That's right. 738 00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:41,060 There shouldn't be. 739 00:55:44,450 --> 00:55:46,430 And then, if you're, let's share it. 740 00:55:46,810 --> 00:55:50,250 And a big clear, that the state does not find it. 741 00:55:50,630 --> 00:55:53,030 This is something that you're professional to be, 742 00:55:53,030 --> 00:55:54,210 that needs to be done regardless. 743 00:55:55,230 --> 00:56:00,730 I mean, the elections are responsible for the electoral board and they're here and I'm sure 744 00:56:00,730 --> 00:56:01,730 that they would address it. 745 00:56:01,870 --> 00:56:06,830 And we also have Jimmy's fairly here who was a chief up at Zion's FreeSync and he worked 746 00:56:06,830 --> 00:56:10,970 at he was in the trenches that day and I think they would all agree that we're at the point 747 00:56:10,970 --> 00:56:12,950 where we need to do something. 748 00:56:13,110 --> 00:56:14,790 I mean, we purchased these machines. 749 00:56:14,950 --> 00:56:19,870 We put them in operation in another four and their life expectancy was 10 years. 750 00:56:19,870 --> 00:56:26,290 So, we've been through 11 November Generals with these machines, plus primaries, town elections, 751 00:56:26,770 --> 00:56:30,650 they're stored in the odd building, they're bumped, they're banged around, they're in hot temperatures 752 00:56:30,650 --> 00:56:39,070 and cold temperatures, they're touch screen technology. And, you know, I feel like that we are on the, you know, 753 00:56:39,290 --> 00:56:46,930 we all these machines were test-voted and sealed on September the 24th. They all worked 100% accurately on September 754 00:56:47,510 --> 00:56:52,910 24th, they were stored and deployed to our free seats on the day before the election, they 755 00:56:52,910 --> 00:56:55,290 fire them all up and they all didn't mark them. 756 00:56:55,850 --> 00:56:56,850 So, can I name it? 757 00:56:57,310 --> 00:57:01,350 Yes, I have secretary, I've signed a link with document. 758 00:57:01,490 --> 00:57:08,130 I sit with them all day as they program it, they had, they ran every machine, every possible 759 00:57:08,130 --> 00:57:13,210 way there was to vote on the ballot that was wanted to use on that machine and we have 760 00:57:13,210 --> 00:57:21,230 takes has proved that when those men led that day and I find my name to those machines were all 761 00:57:21,230 --> 00:57:27,250 working. And so you know that day was it was it was it was tough and two of our precincts 762 00:57:27,250 --> 00:57:32,610 we got down to one operating voting machine. Ms. Wilson also was one of our workers and she was 763 00:57:32,610 --> 00:57:38,530 in mineral where they had a top day and so you know you might fire all these machines up tomorrow 764 00:57:38,530 --> 00:57:44,190 and they're fine, but it's just you're taking a chance, I think. I mean, we couldn't 765 00:57:44,190 --> 00:57:48,730 we log every phone collection date. There was no way that phone rang off the hook. We couldn't 766 00:57:48,730 --> 00:57:51,670 even come close to log in and phone calls that day. 767 00:57:52,310 --> 00:57:58,930 Mr. Chairman, yes, I'm responsible. I move that we approve the resolution that's drafted. 768 00:58:02,740 --> 00:58:10,180 This gives in it as Ms. White can says that we wait for the state to fund it. 769 00:58:10,180 --> 00:58:12,620 And then it doesn't, you look at it. 770 00:58:12,620 --> 00:58:15,520 If you've worked a poll before, you know that there's not 771 00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:17,480 a good place to be when you're quick at the same time. 772 00:58:20,340 --> 00:58:22,700 It's a live expectancy for the new generation. 773 00:58:26,630 --> 00:58:28,290 I was at legislative day today, and we 774 00:58:28,290 --> 00:58:29,970 can talk a lot about voting equipment. 775 00:58:30,930 --> 00:58:34,470 And 10 years, I would say any kind of technology 776 00:58:34,470 --> 00:58:37,930 like this, 10 years is probably about maybe the most 777 00:58:37,930 --> 00:58:39,150 you're going to get out of it. 778 00:58:39,190 --> 00:58:41,910 But people speculate that these things may last longer. 779 00:58:41,910 --> 00:58:46,190 But, you know, I think any kind of technology, when you don't use it anymore, often the 780 00:58:46,190 --> 00:58:47,010 body of machines are used. 781 00:58:47,330 --> 00:58:48,570 It's truly kind of hard to tell. 782 00:58:49,290 --> 00:58:53,770 And these things are in operation in some localities, but they're all kind of still 783 00:58:53,770 --> 00:58:54,150 new. 784 00:58:54,550 --> 00:58:58,670 But I would say ten years, I would say just in the future. 785 00:58:59,110 --> 00:59:00,730 Maybe we can listen to it. 786 00:59:00,770 --> 00:59:05,030 If any other localities around us have problems, before we have problems with them, maybe 787 00:59:05,030 --> 00:59:10,730 make it part of our normal CIP budget process, before we get to a situation where we really 788 00:59:29,170 --> 00:59:40,270 I just like to see the wording, though, just a little bit different on the resolution part of it. 789 00:59:40,270 --> 00:59:46,170 This is a, it said we're proving the $150,000, which, and then it says in the event that 790 00:59:46,170 --> 00:59:50,450 the state does not find the upgrades, the source of funding would be the general fund balance. 791 00:59:51,110 --> 00:59:56,630 It's like to me that if you start off saying, if the state doesn't fund it, then we're 792 00:59:56,630 --> 00:59:58,370 proving the $150,000. 793 00:59:58,730 --> 00:59:59,470 We would have to. 794 01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:10,840 And we have to append to the budget in either situation. So like that, I don't have to get a thousand dollars to the expenditure pedal. It's just a matter of where the revenue comes from. It's a general on balance or initial salary. 795 01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:22,160 But I'm trying to get the chronological order. If the state doesn't approve it, then we approve the 150. This is saying right upfront, we're approve the 150. 796 01:00:23,320 --> 01:00:29,720 in the state in the bit that the state does not fund the upgrade one of that. It's just 797 01:00:29,720 --> 01:00:32,160 the wording in the exact right for me. 798 01:00:38,020 --> 01:00:41,060 I don't want to be unreasonable, you understand what I'm saying? 799 01:00:41,220 --> 01:00:48,660 I think the intent was to put a position to get the state funding and then the big we didn't get the state funding, then we would take care. 800 01:00:48,700 --> 01:00:51,580 That's what I'm saying, and these people were to somewhat better that way. 801 01:00:51,580 --> 01:00:55,440 I think you're saying the same thing, but that last sentence is worth it. 802 01:01:06,500 --> 01:01:06,980 All in, all in. 803 01:01:07,720 --> 01:01:08,420 All in. 804 01:01:08,980 --> 01:01:09,600 All in. 805 01:01:09,600 --> 01:01:09,840 All in, all in. 806 01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:13,540 Thank you, guys. 807 01:01:13,880 --> 01:01:14,280 Thank you. 808 01:01:26,300 --> 01:01:27,300 Thank you. 809 01:01:27,300 --> 01:01:27,720 Thank you. 810 01:01:29,620 --> 01:01:29,980 Thank you. 811 01:01:29,980 --> 01:01:30,640 Oh, thank you. 812 01:01:31,220 --> 01:01:31,740 Thank you. 813 01:01:32,280 --> 01:01:32,740 Thank you. 814 01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:33,200 Let's hear it. 815 01:01:33,200 --> 01:01:33,340 Let's hear it. 816 01:01:34,060 --> 01:01:34,840 Two minutes. 817 01:01:35,200 --> 01:01:36,100 Two minutes there. 818 01:01:36,540 --> 01:01:37,040 Two minutes later. 819 01:01:37,120 --> 01:01:38,640 You got one more action item. 820 01:01:39,000 --> 01:01:39,220 Well? 821 01:01:39,640 --> 01:01:40,760 Yeah, one more action item. 822 01:01:40,920 --> 01:01:41,740 We got two more. 823 01:01:41,880 --> 01:01:42,380 Two more. 824 01:01:42,380 --> 01:01:42,720 Two. 825 01:01:43,100 --> 01:01:43,960 Take a big wave though. 826 01:01:44,220 --> 01:01:44,820 All right. 827 01:01:45,280 --> 01:01:47,160 Well, we got public hearing and two minutes. 828 01:01:47,300 --> 01:01:47,980 We're going to go back. 829 01:01:48,600 --> 01:01:48,800 All right. 830 01:01:49,440 --> 01:01:50,520 All right. 831 01:01:50,520 --> 01:01:51,400 Hey, are you OK? 832 01:01:57,680 --> 01:01:58,020 Yeah. 833 01:01:58,500 --> 01:01:59,340 You can go. 834 01:01:59,340 --> 01:02:00,100 You can go now. 835 01:02:00,260 --> 01:02:02,580 Yeah, that's what it is. 836 01:02:03,380 --> 01:02:03,600 Yeah. 837 01:02:03,600 --> 01:02:04,500 I think it's going to be a little bit. 838 01:02:12,690 --> 01:02:16,250 I think it's a little bit. 839 01:02:16,810 --> 01:02:18,670 I think it's a little bit. 840 01:02:19,970 --> 01:02:20,390 Oh. 841 01:02:21,070 --> 01:02:21,130 Oh. 842 01:02:21,190 --> 01:02:22,350 It's probably a little bit. 843 01:02:22,750 --> 01:02:23,050 I think it might be. 844 01:02:28,060 --> 01:02:28,800 It might be. 845 01:07:10,520 --> 01:07:18,040 Yeah, with the idea of how to realize the draft and how to make tonight, and I've had a chance to read it yet. 846 01:07:18,640 --> 01:07:21,800 You know, it kind of basically says there's no empirical research out there. 847 01:07:21,940 --> 01:07:26,680 It shows whether or not it's going to be a lot of people who are going to be able to make a debate. 848 01:07:27,000 --> 01:07:28,320 Basically, it's a very interesting thing. 849 01:07:29,240 --> 01:07:31,380 There doesn't have to get to be a role. 850 01:07:31,940 --> 01:07:34,700 If you'd like to feel like it's going to end up being a part of the reality, 851 01:07:34,700 --> 01:07:40,180 The devil allowed people to do two and four years later than one of the people who put even though. 852 01:07:40,500 --> 01:07:40,920 Right now. 853 01:07:42,520 --> 01:07:44,520 And then rather, I just didn't know what they were doing. 854 01:07:44,980 --> 01:07:47,020 It looked like a small property. 855 01:07:47,560 --> 01:07:49,900 And then they got dragged. 856 01:07:50,280 --> 01:07:50,600 That's what I did. 857 01:07:50,900 --> 01:07:51,020 That's what I did. 858 01:07:51,160 --> 01:07:51,900 That's what I did. 859 01:07:52,140 --> 01:07:52,340 That's what I did. 860 01:07:52,340 --> 01:07:52,820 That's what I did. 861 01:07:52,920 --> 01:07:53,440 That's what I did. 862 01:07:53,460 --> 01:07:53,980 That's what I did. 863 01:07:54,700 --> 01:07:55,600 That's what I did. 864 01:07:55,980 --> 01:07:59,200 No, I mean, it basically says, 865 01:07:59,440 --> 01:08:01,500 They get right at first or two, isn't it? 866 01:08:02,060 --> 01:08:03,040 And if we deal with it, 867 01:08:03,040 --> 01:08:04,620 I'm not a client. 868 01:08:04,820 --> 01:08:09,800 We've got a bill in front of the car that may taint up to that problem. 869 01:08:10,340 --> 01:08:12,800 So they were busking for a property. 870 01:08:13,300 --> 01:08:14,320 No, no, no, no. 871 01:08:15,460 --> 01:08:17,640 There's only a real business business. 872 01:08:19,040 --> 01:08:20,480 They're going to bring the property. 873 01:08:21,020 --> 01:08:21,960 They're going to bring the property and the property. 874 01:08:21,960 --> 01:08:23,100 They're going to bring the property and the property. 875 01:08:23,300 --> 01:08:26,940 The property and the property. 876 01:08:26,940 --> 01:08:28,740 They're not going to bring the property. 877 01:09:01,300 --> 01:09:04,520 I think I'm gonna do it, I think I'm gonna do it, I think I'm gonna do it. 878 01:09:04,520 --> 01:09:05,280 You know what I mean? 879 01:09:05,280 --> 01:09:09,400 Yeah, you know, you're not exactly the same one. 880 01:09:10,780 --> 01:09:11,260 Yeah, yeah. 881 01:09:11,260 --> 01:09:11,960 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 882 01:09:12,400 --> 01:09:13,140 You know, I think that's the difference. 883 01:09:15,980 --> 01:09:16,660 You're just a camera, no. 884 01:09:16,820 --> 01:09:17,900 Just a camera, no. 885 01:09:18,620 --> 01:09:18,860 Just a camera, no. 886 01:09:18,940 --> 01:09:22,080 I thought you were a camera, no. 887 01:09:22,080 --> 01:09:22,820 Just a camera, no. 888 01:09:22,820 --> 01:09:23,400 That's the camera. 889 01:09:24,040 --> 01:09:24,240 Eh? 890 01:09:29,640 --> 01:09:30,420 No, no. 891 01:09:31,120 --> 01:09:31,680 I think no. 892 01:09:32,720 --> 01:09:33,740 I think no. 893 01:09:33,740 --> 01:09:34,020 I think no. 894 01:09:39,780 --> 01:09:41,940 Yeah, I think it's a four-jep mark. 895 01:09:49,480 --> 01:09:52,420 I'm just being the right man, so he's a big man. 896 01:09:55,840 --> 01:09:58,180 That's right, that's what I mean. 897 01:09:58,420 --> 01:10:00,140 I thought he was a big man. 898 01:10:01,680 --> 01:10:02,960 But then I'll do it. 899 01:10:02,960 --> 01:10:03,620 Yeah. 900 01:10:03,740 --> 01:10:04,440 Come on. 901 01:10:04,620 --> 01:10:05,160 Come on. 902 01:10:06,340 --> 01:10:07,440 What do you want to talk about? 903 01:10:07,580 --> 01:10:08,420 How do you, I'm sure. 904 01:10:08,640 --> 01:10:08,820 I don't know. 905 01:10:10,740 --> 01:10:11,040 Yeah. 906 01:10:11,520 --> 01:10:12,740 Don't think that's what you want to do. 907 01:10:12,740 --> 01:10:14,620 I want to do that right now. 908 01:10:14,920 --> 01:10:15,540 Now here with these. 909 01:10:16,260 --> 01:10:16,800 He's going. 910 01:10:18,620 --> 01:10:19,820 I'm going to go to the public here in California. 911 01:10:21,020 --> 01:10:23,200 And I'm going to talk about it. 912 01:10:23,200 --> 01:10:24,180 Where is your place? 913 01:10:30,100 --> 01:10:30,760 Where's your place? 914 01:10:31,040 --> 01:10:31,260 Where is your place? 915 01:10:34,800 --> 01:10:35,100 Where is your place? 916 01:10:35,100 --> 01:10:35,720 Look at this guy in the office. 917 01:10:36,060 --> 01:10:36,460 I know. 918 01:10:36,480 --> 01:10:36,760 I know. 919 01:10:37,400 --> 01:10:38,360 We're going to go out and walk. 920 01:10:38,360 --> 01:10:42,520 We're up to you and we're over there. 921 01:10:47,660 --> 01:10:48,080 Go to the service. 922 01:10:48,520 --> 01:10:48,560 Go to the service. 923 01:10:48,660 --> 01:10:49,260 Go to the service. 924 01:10:54,480 --> 01:10:55,440 They're not about your favourite. 925 01:10:55,880 --> 01:10:57,480 They're not 926 01:11:03,050 --> 01:11:03,590 about your favourite. 927 01:11:05,030 --> 01:11:07,870 You don't have to put my finger on the work, I'm gonna have to put it on the service. 928 01:11:08,890 --> 01:11:09,750 Did you talk about the blade? 929 01:11:10,870 --> 01:11:11,550 What did you call it? 930 01:11:12,430 --> 01:11:12,710 Okay. 931 01:11:23,270 --> 01:11:24,550 Did you bring it on your social services? 932 01:11:24,830 --> 01:11:25,810 Yes, I brought the service. 933 01:11:26,550 --> 01:11:26,790 Yeah. 934 01:11:28,210 --> 01:11:29,670 Yeah, we know where to take it. 935 01:11:29,670 --> 01:11:29,670 I'm not 936 01:11:36,740 --> 01:11:41,970 a public 937 01:11:44,180 --> 01:11:46,060 hair. 938 01:11:46,200 --> 01:11:47,060 I'm not a public hair. 939 01:11:52,780 --> 01:11:55,200 The rest of us took a set of a resounding, 940 01:11:55,420 --> 01:11:59,240 a five-minute one of all the way to the 82th St.ford. 941 01:11:59,620 --> 01:12:00,420 Who's handling that? 942 01:12:04,680 --> 01:12:06,520 Mr. Chairman of members of the Board. 943 01:12:07,220 --> 01:12:10,800 This is for the resounding of a parcel number 28, 944 01:12:10,960 --> 01:12:13,520 National Board of the portion of that. 945 01:12:14,000 --> 01:12:16,400 Approximately 20,000 acres in the mineral district. 946 01:12:16,400 --> 01:12:23,500 It is currently zone A2 and the requested zoning and C2. 947 01:12:23,980 --> 01:12:24,980 It's currently vacant. 948 01:12:25,420 --> 01:12:29,840 This property and the cover is cleaned and then it makes the area as mixed. 949 01:12:31,380 --> 01:12:34,280 And it is within the Lake Anna Grove area. 950 01:12:36,510 --> 01:12:39,310 In your packet are the propers that were submitted, 951 01:12:39,730 --> 01:12:44,790 which eliminate some of the more concerning uses. 952 01:12:48,590 --> 01:13:05,370 There was a neighborhood meeting held, DRC, Planning Commission, recommended unanimously to approve this project and if there's any questions, I'll be happy to answer that. 953 01:13:11,000 --> 01:13:16,860 Is there any sort of fine residential component to this at all? 954 01:13:16,860 --> 01:13:18,880 No, there's no. 955 01:13:19,100 --> 01:13:21,900 But it's not one of the things that's offered out. 956 01:13:21,920 --> 01:13:24,360 No, it has not been offered out. 957 01:13:26,400 --> 01:13:29,120 You haven't been willing to do that. 958 01:13:29,820 --> 01:13:33,760 The adult homes and group homes have been offered out. 959 01:13:34,120 --> 01:13:37,760 And they are asking for C2, not a pudder. 960 01:13:37,760 --> 01:13:38,320 That's 961 01:13:47,570 --> 01:13:48,230 also a deal. 962 01:13:49,270 --> 01:13:51,010 That has not been proper. 963 01:13:55,000 --> 01:13:55,420 That's the deal. 964 01:13:56,620 --> 01:13:57,920 To prevent the time. 965 01:13:58,960 --> 01:14:00,100 I don't understand your problem. 966 01:14:00,460 --> 01:14:01,900 We are changing it to commercial. 967 01:14:04,200 --> 01:14:05,640 It's still all out. 968 01:14:05,900 --> 01:14:07,160 You can use the according to this list. 969 01:14:07,420 --> 01:14:09,100 Same amount of time as well in the past. 970 01:14:11,120 --> 01:14:13,620 We'll take the preventive of the condition we use from that list. 971 01:14:23,400 --> 01:14:24,320 This picture. 972 01:14:26,440 --> 01:14:27,240 I'm looking at the page. 973 01:14:27,380 --> 01:14:28,380 It's going to want that packet. 974 01:14:28,380 --> 01:14:37,700 and talks about B.D. had reviewed it, and that my paraphrase says that they came back 975 01:14:37,700 --> 01:14:42,100 at the definition of determination and tell this to side of what's going to be there. 976 01:14:42,560 --> 01:14:52,780 But is there sufficient opportunity for them to come in and if the use changes do they 977 01:14:52,780 --> 01:14:56,880 still have the right to come in and look at it and make the requirements that they think 978 01:14:56,880 --> 01:14:59,960 There is a... 979 01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:22,920 Plan process, but after resuming unless something has specifically been offered, then you lose that. A lot of that right. But there is, there's still the site plan requirements and need not will have, we'll look at the site plan to review. 980 01:15:24,200 --> 01:15:30,080 And they were still happy to hear that from me, so that's going to be based on the use. 981 01:15:35,550 --> 01:15:44,850 Vita, I just want to clarify, Vita looked at what was submitted, and it was under the 982 01:15:44,850 --> 01:15:52,210 vehicle trips per day for resumping, so Vita said it was a low impact use, and they didn't 983 01:15:52,210 --> 01:16:00,070 So further than that, a traffic impact statement or assessment was not submitted with the 984 01:16:00,070 --> 01:16:06,190 project or full buildout potential commercial use. 985 01:16:06,950 --> 01:16:12,330 And so we did not wear unaware of what the impacts would be. 986 01:16:13,590 --> 01:16:21,230 But as Mr. Ginger said, if there's a use that's going to have an increase in traffic 987 01:16:21,230 --> 01:16:28,130 and VDOT does have the ability to come in and make whatever change they feel is necessary 988 01:16:28,130 --> 01:16:28,650 requirements. 989 01:16:29,210 --> 01:16:33,230 They have the ability, as much as you said, for the entrance. 990 01:16:34,490 --> 01:16:45,550 For off-premise types of many times you see progress that where the applicant will give money 991 01:16:45,550 --> 01:16:56,570 to for off-premise transportation issues that arise from the impacts of the development. 992 01:16:57,450 --> 01:17:05,510 I don't know what those impacts are, so, and there's not a profit that does that. 993 01:17:09,170 --> 01:17:09,690 It was important. 994 01:17:09,690 --> 01:17:15,070 I think Mr. Habitat has been shown to me and I'm starting to know here that we're going 995 01:17:15,070 --> 01:17:15,990 to discuss that. 996 01:17:16,170 --> 01:17:24,150 But people have gave me about landscaping and we don't really have landscaping. 997 01:17:25,170 --> 01:17:25,910 That's correct. 998 01:17:29,500 --> 01:17:31,440 We don't have landscap ordinance. 999 01:17:32,580 --> 01:17:38,280 Because we don't have a landscap ordinance, if it is not something that has been 1000 01:17:38,280 --> 01:17:50,100 then there is not any requirement. We don't have oversight in that area. They are required 1001 01:17:50,100 --> 01:17:58,780 to in the commercial district to have 25% of the site as landscape, but because there's 1002 01:17:58,780 --> 01:18:07,820 no landscape ordinance that states what that is, it can be a grass area open area. There's 1003 01:18:07,820 --> 01:18:12,780 It's just not to any requirements, but it comes to 1004 01:18:21,420 --> 01:18:22,920 anyone else. 1005 01:18:24,720 --> 01:18:31,360 And right in this, it's just, it says that the application indicates that the initial 1006 01:18:31,360 --> 01:18:40,860 purpose of the rezoning is for restaurants, it was a positive, a winery, over, and that 1007 01:18:40,860 --> 01:18:42,620 is what's contended, 1008 01:18:44,740 --> 01:18:46,280 but they're still not 1009 01:18:46,280 --> 01:18:50,460 profiting out any of the other uses, you'd say, too. 1010 01:18:50,920 --> 01:18:54,260 Some of the uses have been profited out, but they have 1011 01:18:54,260 --> 01:19:00,980 not said that they will proper that that will be the use, 1012 01:19:01,060 --> 01:19:06,120 that are restaurant and winery or brewery and 1013 01:19:06,120 --> 01:19:09,980 vineyard will be the useful site. 1014 01:19:09,980 --> 01:19:16,500 That is their intention as they stated in their application, there's no profit that requires that. 1015 01:19:26,620 --> 01:19:36,760 One of the major things that have been profited that really restrict the property to what is being intended. 1016 01:19:39,060 --> 01:19:48,520 It's still seem like a virtual, a virtual, a virtual, most of the commercial uses are still alive, right? 1017 01:19:49,220 --> 01:19:49,460 Yes, sir. 1018 01:19:49,800 --> 01:19:52,820 You can give it out of the material. 1019 01:19:52,940 --> 01:19:53,300 Yes, sir. 1020 01:19:53,300 --> 01:19:55,340 I'm not going to spend some more time on what it brought about. 1021 01:19:56,020 --> 01:19:58,800 But he'd go for my every commercial release. 1022 01:19:59,400 --> 01:20:02,260 But in a hand, you can't have all the audios here. 1023 01:20:02,840 --> 01:20:04,540 You can't have strip hall, a strip club. 1024 01:20:05,260 --> 01:20:19,500 You can't have a debt, you know, I mean, yeah, but you can have all the repair, but you've got to clear it, just trust it now, what it will happen in that. So, it's a really going from agriculture commercial for a reason, and you want to have commercial activity. 1025 01:20:24,990 --> 01:20:27,310 The presidential is still in the C-2. 1026 01:20:27,310 --> 01:20:28,330 Right. 1027 01:20:28,590 --> 01:20:31,070 The point that I think is sitting in the Senate, I quote too. 1028 01:20:36,860 --> 01:20:41,640 Better than to get the business that is around other commercial, 1029 01:20:44,180 --> 01:20:44,500 commercial, commercial 1030 01:20:44,500 --> 01:20:45,900 like them, opportunities. 1031 01:20:47,080 --> 01:20:48,780 And it would bring in. 1032 01:20:48,780 --> 01:20:51,900 It's better than to contract with the county and as far as you said. 1033 01:20:54,620 --> 01:20:55,300 All right. 1034 01:20:56,040 --> 01:20:56,520 Let's play. 1035 01:20:57,520 --> 01:20:59,560 Are the Americans going to give any sort of presentation? 1036 01:20:59,920 --> 01:21:00,620 It was just you. 1037 01:21:02,120 --> 01:21:02,680 Mr. Lilly. 1038 01:21:03,300 --> 01:21:04,280 I'm fine with it. 1039 01:21:04,280 --> 01:21:11,200 I don't like it, but what part of it not like about it is, and I'm probably going to support you. 1040 01:21:11,360 --> 01:21:19,140 I don't like it unless you would do is that if you're going to say it's for a brewery or a vineyard 1041 01:21:19,140 --> 01:21:24,800 and a restaurant, and that's the reason for some design and change, I think there should be conditions 1042 01:21:24,800 --> 01:21:28,980 of a design and change, because that's what we're telling the public that you're going to do. 1043 01:21:29,300 --> 01:21:30,680 That's the only thing you're allowed to do. 1044 01:21:30,700 --> 01:21:33,880 If you just want to come in and say it's money-piece of land, it's in the growth area, 1045 01:21:33,880 --> 01:21:37,360 I think it should be them commercial because I wanted to be, I can respect that team and 1046 01:21:37,360 --> 01:21:38,580 go along with that. 1047 01:21:38,900 --> 01:21:43,740 But I think that when we say publicly and a bunch of different meetings, it's going to 1048 01:21:43,740 --> 01:21:48,720 be a brewery of being in a restaurant, and that should be part of the restrictions. 1049 01:21:50,020 --> 01:21:52,000 But that's just my personal opinion. 1050 01:21:53,080 --> 01:21:53,380 All right. 1051 01:21:53,600 --> 01:21:55,320 It's most expensive. 1052 01:21:55,700 --> 01:21:59,840 It's very the outcome of the year, and it's going to take a little help, and I want to 1053 01:21:59,840 --> 01:22:00,360 take it. 1054 01:22:06,600 --> 01:22:11,720 As Chairman, that was aboard my name as Jill Lillay on the turning of the office in the industrial park here. 1055 01:22:11,780 --> 01:22:13,680 I was a candidate, I recognized not the applicant. 1056 01:22:14,580 --> 01:22:17,160 M.G.K. Enterprises, L.L.C. 1057 01:22:21,180 --> 01:22:26,740 It's kind of interesting because we started this process of, back in September of an application. 1058 01:22:27,120 --> 01:22:29,340 We went through the neighborhood name. 1059 01:22:29,620 --> 01:22:31,760 We went through the development review committee. 1060 01:22:32,540 --> 01:22:33,780 We went through the planning commission. 1061 01:22:34,480 --> 01:22:35,540 We're here tonight. 1062 01:22:35,540 --> 01:22:42,000 And we have each step we have asked loudly, frequently, over and over and over for 1063 01:22:42,000 --> 01:22:44,560 our input as far as the proper is going on. 1064 01:22:44,960 --> 01:22:46,640 And we got zero. 1065 01:22:47,320 --> 01:22:53,520 Nothing from anybody until tonight we got questions about what's in, what's out, whatever. 1066 01:22:54,820 --> 01:22:56,500 My cameras and I sat down. 1067 01:22:56,660 --> 01:23:02,340 We spent a long time with the matrix, we spent a long time with the definitions. 1068 01:23:02,340 --> 01:23:07,900 We read them all carefully, try to figure out whatever some of them meant because some of them 1069 01:23:07,900 --> 01:23:12,400 don't make them all of a sense of dance, all of them really kind of interesting. 1070 01:23:14,160 --> 01:23:18,800 If you sit down and you go into that thing and then you start figuring out that you can 1071 01:23:18,800 --> 01:23:23,660 actually be built here, some sort of criminal offense, if you let somebody come in there and 1072 01:23:23,660 --> 01:23:28,460 then you let them leave and then you let them come back and some period of time, it's really 1073 01:23:28,460 --> 01:23:36,080 interesting what's in the account code. We did the best that we could do to look at the surrounding 1074 01:23:36,080 --> 01:23:43,180 area out there. Look at what we think would be good for that area and to eliminate stuff that 1075 01:23:43,180 --> 01:23:50,980 we thought would not be compatible would not be accepted or acceptable to people there in the area. 1076 01:23:51,620 --> 01:23:56,200 Again, we've gotten no assistance, no help. 1077 01:23:56,460 --> 01:24:00,480 We've done draft profits, we've passed draft profits and rounds. 1078 01:24:01,840 --> 01:24:05,500 Many times, we've seen that the advertising is no profit, 1079 01:24:05,680 --> 01:24:07,940 some minute, no profits, no profits, no profits. 1080 01:24:08,640 --> 01:24:10,860 Well, we've been asking and asking and asking. 1081 01:24:11,580 --> 01:24:14,580 And we've got this point where we have to put an end to this meeting. 1082 01:24:17,640 --> 01:24:23,280 And I think this was something that Mr. Havocie had also raised as a question. 1083 01:24:24,360 --> 01:24:30,400 The whole point of having some sort of a commercial place is not to make it not appealing. 1084 01:24:31,360 --> 01:24:36,360 But to make it appealing to people, so that they'll come down there and they'll spend money. 1085 01:24:37,020 --> 01:24:43,880 And whether that's part of your architectural design and landscape being, it's all part of the same thing. 1086 01:24:43,880 --> 01:24:53,060 And to say that Mr. Cavaro's work wouldn't have any work or put in some sort of 1087 01:24:53,060 --> 01:24:59,120 vague and ambiguous sort of a proper attitude of landscaping, frankly, I think it's going 1088 01:24:59,120 --> 01:25:04,180 to invite more chaos than it's going to have a pure, many things. 1089 01:25:05,120 --> 01:25:10,060 We're working now, we're like, yay, I think he's someone familiar to everybody on the board. 1090 01:25:10,800 --> 01:25:17,260 Mike is going to be looking at the traffic studies, the different things can be done out there. 1091 01:25:17,660 --> 01:25:20,320 And it's going to do whatever's within his area of expertise. 1092 01:25:20,580 --> 01:25:25,100 Other professional engineers are going to be engaged as far as Berlin, Berlin, and the profit. 1093 01:25:26,320 --> 01:25:31,160 When Mike Cabros has it, the green is having an up-sale rescue on there with a vineyard, 1094 01:25:31,860 --> 01:25:38,460 or a cell line that's made there, and maybe down the road have a brewery right now. 1095 01:25:38,460 --> 01:25:42,580 I think the Western is drawing talks and selling them over in the valley, 1096 01:25:43,080 --> 01:25:44,520 in some of the pieces of blue beer. 1097 01:25:45,240 --> 01:25:47,740 There's a cash truck right there that is available. 1098 01:25:48,060 --> 01:25:50,940 And the ground's good enough, which range good enough to do that, 1099 01:25:50,940 --> 01:25:53,120 and something else that might be there. 1100 01:25:53,600 --> 01:25:58,820 And I'm open to correction, but my understanding as far as the residential use 1101 01:25:58,820 --> 01:26:02,300 in the C2 zoning is just extremely limited. 1102 01:26:03,240 --> 01:26:06,560 And the only residents that's really available, 1103 01:26:06,560 --> 01:26:11,120 I believe it's a vibe right, it's for a caretaker or someone who's there on the property. 1104 01:26:11,860 --> 01:26:17,540 And I find wrong and now I'd be welcome to be corrected, but I think there is something else 1105 01:26:17,540 --> 01:26:23,580 I think the additional use permit was mentioned earlier, but I think that there would be another step 1106 01:26:23,580 --> 01:26:27,660 in the process, if there would be any sort of presentation used in that property. 1107 01:26:28,540 --> 01:26:31,900 There's a lot of residential use out there now. 1108 01:26:31,900 --> 01:26:41,560 I'm not sure where the concern comes from or what the question really would be, but I think 1109 01:26:41,560 --> 01:26:46,480 your residential use of costability is not properly as a seat to some property in 1110 01:26:46,480 --> 01:26:48,380 the past 11 years. 1111 01:26:49,260 --> 01:26:53,420 Another question we're going to tell you about the entrance permit, the entrance permit, 1112 01:26:53,720 --> 01:26:59,740 something I've sat down with, Mark Ward, again, someone who's familiar to everyone here 1113 01:26:59,740 --> 01:27:06,840 on the board. And we've talked basically when you sit down and look at the vehicle trips 1114 01:27:06,840 --> 01:27:12,920 per day, it's going to depend on the car. It's a factor. It's a very simple sort of 1115 01:27:12,920 --> 01:27:17,980 form, but there's a book that says whatever the use is. This is how many trips you can 1116 01:27:17,980 --> 01:27:23,500 inspect for this particular use from restaurants and has to choose a square footage. Where 1117 01:27:23,500 --> 01:27:29,500 you have entrance remits where you have acceleration lanes, turn lanes, other things that 1118 01:27:29,500 --> 01:27:38,120 and come in there. And so a lot of that is going to depend on what speed limit is out there. 1119 01:27:39,040 --> 01:27:44,260 I'm personally a very loud and continuous advocate for dropped in the speed limit on two 1120 01:27:44,260 --> 01:27:50,160 away from Dickinson's to the bridge, and 522 from Jim to Lake Canada down in the contrary, 1121 01:27:50,540 --> 01:27:56,140 pretty bridge. If you haven't been in that area very much, I recommend that you start 1122 01:27:56,140 --> 01:28:02,260 up to the trash up there and if you go through that recycling center and then come on out, 1123 01:28:02,340 --> 01:28:05,900 whichever direction you're going to go, you're going to find that it's a hold your breath, 1124 01:28:06,020 --> 01:28:10,320 quite not going to experience to pull out there on the 542 at any time of the day when 1125 01:28:10,320 --> 01:28:15,820 that time is open. One day, I think we're going to see that, I think we've all heard recently 1126 01:28:15,820 --> 01:28:21,240 about the advocacy for some sort of traffic control by its their significance. 1127 01:28:25,680 --> 01:28:26,120 There's 1128 01:28:26,120 --> 01:28:31,700 north of Dimmins, and that both sides of the road is going to be developed. 1129 01:28:32,020 --> 01:28:34,160 They've been sized up to a commercial property. 1130 01:28:34,480 --> 01:28:35,480 We'll subdivide. 1131 01:28:35,700 --> 01:28:40,020 We'll wonder, and that's been a role in that area. 1132 01:28:40,400 --> 01:28:45,960 There's more more traffic, and right now the traffic out there on two of the way the 1133 01:28:45,960 --> 01:28:48,000 thickness of the bridge is just kind of scary. 1134 01:28:49,620 --> 01:28:56,100 The whole thing is in there, and that, again, by the time a restaurant is putting 1135 01:28:56,100 --> 01:29:01,780 place and this has done all those traffic studies have done. I don't think it'd be a bad thing 1136 01:29:01,780 --> 01:29:07,700 if we see a whole lot of deceleration, a whole lot of dropping in the speed limit. And I think it might 1137 01:29:07,700 --> 01:29:13,380 be something that this board should be working on as far as safety for some of the recent county citizens. 1138 01:29:13,700 --> 01:29:19,780 So you don't have to talk with very many recipes about people to learn how many accidents have been 1139 01:29:19,780 --> 01:29:26,020 out there and how many problems have been out there. We can all think probably enough people 1140 01:29:26,020 --> 01:29:31,720 white on hand that have been killed around two or eight between Dickinson's and the bridge to 1141 01:29:31,720 --> 01:29:32,760 I had. 1142 01:29:33,280 --> 01:29:36,660 I'm on my soul box about that, and that's all about it. 1143 01:29:36,920 --> 01:29:39,640 Anyway, I really don't have too much else to have. 1144 01:29:39,980 --> 01:29:45,960 Other than the fact that the properties of God are things we work very hard on, and welcome 1145 01:29:45,960 --> 01:29:53,120 any other suggestions, but I don't think the practical level has a level of 1.5 hour to 1146 01:29:53,120 --> 01:29:59,520 it down and try and do consideration to something to just throw that in right now. 1147 01:30:00,300 --> 01:30:04,760 I'm sorry. Go ahead, aye, is there any questions that you've got for? 1148 01:30:05,320 --> 01:30:06,840 With all degrees back. 1149 01:30:08,980 --> 01:30:18,620 I don't appreciate the fact that you're saying we've had all of this time to look at the proper, because in reality, we just received our package last week. 1150 01:30:18,620 --> 01:30:28,480 And on November the 14th, you received the letter saying that the applicant is to work with our staff 1151 01:30:28,480 --> 01:30:34,960 on to clarify the purpose of the December 2011 planning commission meeting. 1152 01:30:35,640 --> 01:30:38,480 But that doesn't mean that those came to us. 1153 01:30:39,040 --> 01:30:41,000 So I believe that we do have the right. 1154 01:30:41,000 --> 01:30:51,540 I will certainly certainly apologize, and if we can address them by and say we've been asked for a long time for help, no witness. 1155 01:30:52,380 --> 01:30:55,160 Can you say that you did work with staff too? 1156 01:30:55,180 --> 01:30:58,280 We've asked for their questions and suggestions. 1157 01:31:02,460 --> 01:31:07,060 I've asked for forgiveness for every being presented as a witness. 1158 01:31:07,060 --> 01:31:16,810 Well, let's move on with the public area and we'll get this to come back with a question 1159 01:31:16,810 --> 01:31:18,210 back for that. 1160 01:31:18,570 --> 01:31:25,630 Mr. Chairman, a state-corrected about the residential, there are special provisions for 1161 01:31:25,630 --> 01:31:32,390 residential in C2 and in those special provisions it says that dwellings in the course of 1162 01:31:32,390 --> 01:31:37,590 districts are limited to owners of lots or parcences and districts as well as the employees 1163 01:31:37,590 --> 01:31:38,590 Thank you. 1164 01:31:40,930 --> 01:31:41,550 All right. 1165 01:31:41,730 --> 01:31:42,550 Let's all come up. 1166 01:31:42,950 --> 01:31:43,190 All right. 1167 01:31:43,290 --> 01:31:43,450 Yeah. 1168 01:31:43,510 --> 01:31:44,690 One patient is speaking. 1169 01:31:44,930 --> 01:31:50,490 I think that against this, uh, rezone and come to the bottom of the state's name, address. 1170 01:31:51,970 --> 01:31:55,650 And I have one card, but I understand that that's not for this. 1171 01:31:59,170 --> 01:31:59,890 All right. 1172 01:32:02,430 --> 01:32:03,550 Good evening, Mr. Chairman. 1173 01:32:03,710 --> 01:32:04,570 Members of the board. 1174 01:32:04,690 --> 01:32:06,210 My name is James Viper. 1175 01:32:06,510 --> 01:32:08,510 I live on a travel road in Old District. 1176 01:32:09,670 --> 01:32:10,830 Uh, this is the fourth meeting. 1177 01:32:10,830 --> 01:32:19,430 I attended, and basically I came here, expecting to hear that it was accepted as a restaurant 1178 01:32:19,430 --> 01:32:27,910 which it seems to have been growing, and I heard about the possible brewery and the vineyards, 1179 01:32:28,530 --> 01:32:35,110 and even the e-general men showed me a kind of a stick drawing at the last planning meeting. 1180 01:32:35,110 --> 01:32:37,330 that was the furthest we had gotten. 1181 01:32:38,210 --> 01:32:42,750 So I'm a kind of surprised that it's still up for a graph that way. 1182 01:32:44,510 --> 01:32:48,550 I'm here to ask a question that seems to be a bit of a reason. 1183 01:32:49,170 --> 01:32:54,650 I do not understand what the problem or the question 1184 01:32:54,650 --> 01:32:58,550 with V-doddans wanted to just verify this 1185 01:32:58,550 --> 01:33:01,270 because if it's going to be a business, 1186 01:33:02,710 --> 01:33:09,270 I understood that the main access was going to be on 522 and there might be a delivery 1187 01:33:09,270 --> 01:33:16,270 entrance for for 623. I don't know what what the story would be that is. Does this mean 1188 01:33:16,270 --> 01:33:24,290 it's going to change that whatever business goes in there as well as or 623. It's 522 1189 01:33:24,290 --> 01:33:31,590 off the table possibly yes no maybe so that's what I would like to appreciate an answer 1190 01:33:31,590 --> 01:33:34,070 from that war. Does that go on forever? 1191 01:33:40,320 --> 01:33:45,640 One hour, three to speak. Not called for any problems. 1192 01:33:53,100 --> 01:33:58,380 Mr. General, I can address that to read out the sympathy question that I think will go a bit more. 1193 01:33:58,380 --> 01:33:59,880 that one question? 1194 01:34:08,670 --> 01:34:13,930 With respect to that one question about the entrance, nothing has changed. 1195 01:34:15,850 --> 01:34:19,730 The entrance and what's going to be required to put in the entrance basically coming 1196 01:34:20,290 --> 01:34:26,690 south on 5, 22 is going to require what taper and a 200 foot deceleration lane. 1197 01:34:27,190 --> 01:34:32,430 And basically going north it would be the same kind of thing, whether there is a 1198 01:34:32,430 --> 01:34:40,690 The turn lane required is going to be dependent on the size and the facility against the speed limit on the road. 1199 01:34:41,370 --> 01:34:43,590 The site distances are definitely there. 1200 01:34:43,990 --> 01:34:50,150 Set that with Mark Wood and the site distances available far exceed what's required for right now. 1201 01:34:50,470 --> 01:34:53,390 It's about 55 mile per hour speed limit. 1202 01:34:54,490 --> 01:34:57,010 And the curve on the road and everything is there. 1203 01:34:57,130 --> 01:34:59,830 There's no problem having an entrance there. 1204 01:34:59,830 --> 01:35:18,170 The only question is what's going to be needed as far as any development in there, and that is going to be dictated by the size of the restaurant and the speed limit on the road, the combination of those two, because all of the numbers change each time you change one of those factors. 1205 01:35:20,150 --> 01:35:23,190 So I'm going to point against it. 1206 01:35:23,490 --> 01:35:27,670 I'm lost by Mr. Lutter before you sit down. Can we ask another question? 1207 01:35:28,590 --> 01:35:28,730 I'm sorry. 1208 01:35:29,730 --> 01:35:30,850 I'll probably give you an answer. 1209 01:35:31,510 --> 01:35:32,350 All right. 1210 01:35:34,510 --> 01:35:39,450 If I'm reading this correctly, industrial was left in there. 1211 01:35:46,010 --> 01:35:48,510 I can show you the copy I have if you want to. 1212 01:35:54,570 --> 01:35:58,410 It's a last page in the conference just a minute that we have. 1213 01:36:07,960 --> 01:36:12,220 All of those, those three that are out there are among those that do not be permitted. 1214 01:36:14,200 --> 01:36:14,320 What? 1215 01:36:14,860 --> 01:36:15,980 You go back up one page. 1216 01:36:16,280 --> 01:36:23,740 On the cross-edges number two, parent two is as a following uses defined by a section A6.2 that we 1217 01:36:23,740 --> 01:36:24,380 just can't decode. 1218 01:36:24,540 --> 01:36:25,340 We'll not be permitted. 1219 01:36:26,160 --> 01:36:29,180 And then we've got the ones broken down the way that are the code. 1220 01:36:29,180 --> 01:36:33,900 residential businesses will not be permitted, the cynics that will not be commercial that 1221 01:36:33,900 --> 01:36:38,700 will not be industrial that will not be miscellaneous that will not be permitted. 1222 01:36:38,960 --> 01:36:41,780 The permitted pieces are about three pages before that page. 1223 01:36:42,080 --> 01:36:45,600 Yeah, and the attachment had the others for stricken, but that one was not. 1224 01:36:45,840 --> 01:36:46,460 Don't you? 1225 01:36:49,220 --> 01:36:49,640 Yes, sir. 1226 01:36:49,640 --> 01:36:50,360 This is Allison. 1227 01:36:50,360 --> 01:36:56,360 Can you clarify about the little more of you gave us the residential, again, root the 1228 01:37:00,010 --> 01:37:00,450 resistance 1229 01:37:00,450 --> 01:37:10,430 you can't only do residential development, if it is the owner of the property, they can have their residence. 1230 01:37:10,570 --> 01:37:13,290 So you can sell lots in there, and people are living in those houses. 1231 01:37:16,520 --> 01:37:22,080 No, just having the owner of the property or the employees there. 1232 01:37:24,060 --> 01:37:26,720 If I have a subdivision, what my God wants are? 1233 01:37:26,860 --> 01:37:29,720 So if I have the property, could I build a house on it? 1234 01:37:31,550 --> 01:37:35,710 Yes, so you could sell lots and some I could buy a house to build a house. 1235 01:37:39,340 --> 01:37:39,700 No 1236 01:37:41,460 --> 01:37:42,860 Not a good zone commercial 1237 01:37:45,140 --> 01:37:49,240 But you couldn't sit the buy to sell a lot. That's I think I 1238 01:37:53,870 --> 01:37:58,850 Limited to the owner living there. So I don't understand you keep saying that if you're down there 1239 01:37:58,850 --> 01:38:02,370 You can build a house, so I bought a piece of land inside of 1240 01:38:02,370 --> 01:38:04,710 That 25 acres and I was the owner could have built a house 1241 01:38:09,590 --> 01:38:13,170 You can get back to me later if you'd like to listen to 1242 01:38:15,440 --> 01:38:15,600 that. 1243 01:38:15,600 --> 01:38:16,740 I just need to look up there. 1244 01:38:16,820 --> 01:38:20,260 Excuse me, what was Dick's concern on landscaping? 1245 01:38:20,920 --> 01:38:23,660 Is that something that you mentioned your back door back yard? 1246 01:38:23,840 --> 01:38:25,120 Is that something you want to explore? 1247 01:38:25,180 --> 01:38:26,200 I just 1248 01:38:31,040 --> 01:38:34,880 have to look at that area that has no landscaping. 1249 01:38:36,260 --> 01:38:38,420 And it's certainly not the most attractive. 1250 01:38:38,640 --> 01:38:40,700 They're not one that I would like to be represented 1251 01:38:40,700 --> 01:38:47,200 of our county, our district, or the lake, and that is just what I was looking at trying 1252 01:38:48,080 --> 01:38:48,720 to protect. 1253 01:38:50,380 --> 01:39:00,220 And, you know, I noticed in the memo from our staff, December 29th, it says that the applicant 1254 01:39:00,220 --> 01:39:06,480 might consider additional proper, proper, that might help mitigate character, et cetera. 1255 01:39:06,480 --> 01:39:19,720 But that's just something that has come up with other leg meetings as well as the characters that we want to present. 1256 01:39:20,580 --> 01:39:21,240 Tim and Papel. 1257 01:39:21,460 --> 01:39:26,840 I can rest at precise point because I know exactly what you're talking about. 1258 01:39:27,100 --> 01:39:29,020 I can do it from here if you want. 1259 01:39:29,460 --> 01:39:31,080 What do you mean exactly what we're talking about? 1260 01:39:31,140 --> 01:39:32,620 I spoke with Mr. Habesing. 1261 01:39:33,300 --> 01:39:40,480 I mean, I just, we, he, he, I mean, every, every commercial reason I can think of, and the reason 1262 01:39:40,480 --> 01:39:47,220 past that we've done, there's been some sort of different vegetative buffer that's specified 1263 01:39:47,740 --> 01:39:51,260 and spelled out exactly what it's going to be, whether it's ever green, it's a certain high 1264 01:39:51,260 --> 01:39:51,620 cost. 1265 01:39:51,800 --> 01:39:55,840 I think it's going to be, whether you can, I think we did it for a fault burn, when I, we 1266 01:39:55,840 --> 01:40:01,420 like any, I think we've done it for pretty much everybody, but they've all been different, 1267 01:40:01,420 --> 01:40:05,720 I don't know if you're speaking to what his specific desires were for this project. 1268 01:40:05,860 --> 01:40:11,140 It's a different concern for us if this would not look like the weird area of the nitrackin' 1269 01:40:11,140 --> 01:40:12,160 with a killer foot. 1270 01:40:12,800 --> 01:40:13,420 I cut it. 1271 01:40:16,280 --> 01:40:18,520 Whatever you want to have, you want to characterize it. 1272 01:40:19,700 --> 01:40:22,760 And I think we may say we can profit that they will not. 1273 01:40:23,700 --> 01:40:28,940 I think what makes it nervous is that, you know, you've got some profit out of a lot of stuff, 1274 01:40:28,940 --> 01:40:32,600 But there's nothing to say that once the resounding gets completed, 1275 01:40:32,600 --> 01:40:36,960 it's got no propers in there stating a vegetative blocker that she does. 1276 01:40:37,700 --> 01:40:41,040 Can Valley up in two weeks and decide to sell it because somebody needs some money. 1277 01:40:41,040 --> 01:40:43,800 Somebody else buys it, wants to open up. 1278 01:40:44,500 --> 01:40:46,800 The blocker's only required to be extended. 1279 01:40:46,940 --> 01:40:55,640 The block state should probably come to size and the count of code requires a blocker between commercial and also has a setback. 1280 01:40:55,640 --> 01:41:02,620 50 votes at that, where if you have the commercial up against the agricultural property 1281 01:41:02,620 --> 01:41:07,020 and the business specified that there would be a growth risk again there. 1282 01:41:08,200 --> 01:41:13,480 But what we're talking about is that we certainly can offer some sort of development 1283 01:41:13,480 --> 01:41:20,800 because what now is growing on and the plan is to leave growing on and finding out the edge of it. 1284 01:41:20,800 --> 01:41:23,860 They just go on and find a very complex process. 1285 01:41:23,900 --> 01:41:26,200 This is going to be harvested in some form. 1286 01:41:26,520 --> 01:41:31,300 Certain day to some degree, those clients will be wiped out 1287 01:41:31,300 --> 01:41:35,540 to put in whatever landscape you want to put in. 1288 01:41:35,540 --> 01:41:38,320 Working in New York, winter and winter, and things. 1289 01:41:38,480 --> 01:41:39,160 And this is there. 1290 01:41:39,680 --> 01:41:43,060 Right now, the passion that has that point, 1291 01:41:43,340 --> 01:41:45,860 where they're not rolling up to bringing the cash, 1292 01:41:45,940 --> 01:41:50,330 but then rolling up the cash, if you want to. 1293 01:41:50,330 --> 01:42:01,250 I mean, if you want to, you know, it's in your district side, you know, deferred to you, but I'm not, I don't, I don't have any interest in setting up here in designing a landscape buffer. 1294 01:42:01,750 --> 01:42:03,910 If you want to let staff do it or do whatever you need. 1295 01:42:03,910 --> 01:42:11,830 One of that, my question is, I don't know how many of you have questions that you feel that might be worth 1296 01:42:14,130 --> 01:42:19,030 to make sure you get this ironed out, or are you ready? 1297 01:42:20,470 --> 01:42:23,210 I'd like to make a cup from this book as a realist. 1298 01:42:23,690 --> 01:42:24,590 First of all, landscape. 1299 01:42:25,530 --> 01:42:28,530 We talked about landscape for view committees a lot. 1300 01:42:29,370 --> 01:42:32,930 In the last ten years, so we've always liked it not to go quite that far. 1301 01:42:33,270 --> 01:42:37,690 But at the same time, in reviews, if there were suggestions, 1302 01:42:37,690 --> 01:42:40,510 is that Jesus was with the development work with us? 1303 01:42:41,630 --> 01:42:45,830 So, I think you're on the forester, not going quite all the way to 1304 01:42:45,830 --> 01:42:49,230 landscape review committee, but trying to get some something done at that. 1305 01:42:49,750 --> 01:42:51,850 The other question I have, maybe I'll speak in answer. 1306 01:42:52,410 --> 01:42:55,510 But I've even come to application process that the purpose of this 1307 01:42:55,510 --> 01:42:57,410 rezoning has been stated. 1308 01:42:57,930 --> 01:42:59,310 It's sort of all this property. 1309 01:43:00,230 --> 01:43:01,170 I know all this stuff. 1310 01:43:01,450 --> 01:43:05,570 Can't we just base the rezoning on purpose of what they're asking for? 1311 01:43:05,570 --> 01:43:05,570 I 1312 01:43:09,790 --> 01:43:16,130 mean, they're saying that this bit used is a restaurant with cost for use of the lottery and or glory. 1313 01:43:16,170 --> 01:43:19,470 Can't just approve it based on how they're saying they're going to use. 1314 01:43:19,690 --> 01:43:28,850 I don't believe that because they haven't offered that you have no assurance unless they've offered that that will be the use. 1315 01:43:28,850 --> 01:43:36,130 That has not been proper, and it's such a material limitation given on what has been 1316 01:43:36,130 --> 01:43:40,290 struck and out, to strike out basically everything else except for their proposed use. 1317 01:43:40,810 --> 01:43:44,050 That's so material, I think you have to re-advertise and have another point. 1318 01:43:44,050 --> 01:43:45,730 I'm meeting a whole application for up again. 1319 01:43:45,830 --> 01:43:49,750 There's a thing that purpose, it's just stated again in the 90s, so whether that's not 1320 01:43:49,750 --> 01:43:55,870 what the proper is or I think it's, I would be concerned that I wouldn't go there. 1321 01:43:55,870 --> 01:44:01,970 I think state has been a state of permissaser, and I don't know this, because I don't think you guys 1322 01:44:01,970 --> 01:44:05,850 probably don't do it, but it's more of a service than a business label, which is. 1323 01:44:06,090 --> 01:44:09,230 If we say, we're not the effective of a private. 1324 01:44:09,790 --> 01:44:13,430 If we're saying we're zoney based on it, it's not good service. 1325 01:44:18,190 --> 01:44:19,670 Yeah, just a question. 1326 01:44:22,210 --> 01:44:26,970 We don't always have a purpose on the application that ties it down specifically. 1327 01:44:26,970 --> 01:44:30,350 what I keep hearing here is a specific use. 1328 01:44:30,910 --> 01:44:36,850 I look at the propers and that's what tells me what is allowed in what's known. 1329 01:44:37,910 --> 01:44:49,490 And when I look at the propers, I see a parcel that can be 25 acres and have a lot more square footage of commercial use. 1330 01:44:49,930 --> 01:44:52,630 It is in the mixed use growth area. 1331 01:44:54,090 --> 01:44:59,970 And so, why can't you proper out everything but what's there about disaster form? 1332 01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:12,320 I have seen that before, and that is the way to ensure that I have asked the applicant, and they have said, no, that they, that restricts them too much. 1333 01:45:14,080 --> 01:45:16,660 So he didn't back into the speculation issue. 1334 01:45:26,370 --> 01:45:28,970 I don't see where in industrial, 1335 01:45:29,290 --> 01:45:30,630 some of them are not reading something. 1336 01:45:30,770 --> 01:45:31,550 I don't see them in industrial. 1337 01:45:32,950 --> 01:45:35,290 But where was it taken in there? 1338 01:45:35,330 --> 01:45:38,030 Some I said industrial was not left in there. 1339 01:45:38,610 --> 01:45:40,170 Did you look at them? 1340 01:45:42,070 --> 01:45:43,090 I may be just overlooking. 1341 01:45:44,330 --> 01:45:44,850 it's... 1342 01:45:44,850 --> 01:45:45,910 I think it's the same one. 1343 01:45:46,070 --> 01:45:49,470 General permur permute of uses it says 1344 01:45:49,470 --> 01:45:50,450 number two. 1345 01:45:50,630 --> 01:45:53,410 I'm very lucky that the program is going to be called, 1346 01:45:53,870 --> 01:45:57,210 but it has industrial end here. 1347 01:45:57,570 --> 01:45:58,750 It uses a allow. 1348 01:45:59,690 --> 01:46:02,430 I'm going to pacify 35 and it doesn't appear to me 1349 01:46:02,430 --> 01:46:04,350 that industrial is sticking out. 1350 01:46:04,510 --> 01:46:05,310 Is that the normal thing? 1351 01:46:05,370 --> 01:46:06,450 That's where I'm looking at. 1352 01:46:06,630 --> 01:46:08,750 And that is something that I prepared 1353 01:46:09,490 --> 01:46:12,670 to make it easier for you to see what was stricken. 1354 01:46:12,670 --> 01:46:17,670 So where's the one they brought for us that that were submitted? 1355 01:46:19,050 --> 01:46:19,190 Yeah. 1356 01:46:19,190 --> 01:46:20,950 They are on the page. 1357 01:46:27,210 --> 01:46:27,970 Is that not 39? 1358 01:46:29,650 --> 01:46:29,890 38. 1359 01:46:30,490 --> 01:46:30,490 I 1360 01:46:33,080 --> 01:46:33,700 don't know. 1361 01:46:35,120 --> 01:46:35,560 Yes. 1362 01:46:38,290 --> 01:46:38,710 39. 1363 01:46:39,490 --> 01:46:40,070 Open packet. 1364 01:46:41,330 --> 01:46:42,350 And in industrial. 1365 01:46:43,490 --> 01:46:49,310 The industrial uses that have been removed are railroad facility transfer station. 1366 01:46:49,510 --> 01:46:50,530 We're housing distribution. 1367 01:46:50,530 --> 01:46:55,910 We do have an industrial use. 1368 01:46:56,770 --> 01:46:58,690 But you still have some industrial issues. 1369 01:46:59,010 --> 01:46:59,290 Yeah, that's correct. 1370 01:46:59,430 --> 01:47:00,950 We have a use that. 1371 01:47:01,070 --> 01:47:05,770 The definition, the name of the name of the use that is called industrial. 1372 01:47:07,370 --> 01:47:13,290 So you could have, they could have industrial types of activities in there. 1373 01:47:13,330 --> 01:47:13,910 That's correct. 1374 01:47:19,860 --> 01:47:21,520 But some will be industrial use. 1375 01:47:25,420 --> 01:47:25,700 No, 1376 01:47:37,730 --> 01:47:38,250 I don't know. 1377 01:47:38,250 --> 01:47:40,410 The one in mental, I think it's not. 1378 01:47:40,550 --> 01:47:41,430 I think it's good. 1379 01:47:42,010 --> 01:47:42,450 It's not. 1380 01:47:42,450 --> 01:47:42,790 It's not. 1381 01:47:43,230 --> 01:47:45,050 I don't think in that one. 1382 01:47:45,290 --> 01:47:45,410 It's not. 1383 01:47:45,910 --> 01:47:48,850 I see a role in the law of that. 1384 01:47:53,150 --> 01:47:54,750 It's really not a good investment. 1385 01:48:10,050 --> 01:48:10,370 Great. 1386 01:48:11,230 --> 01:48:12,650 I'm going to follow the discussion. 1387 01:48:12,950 --> 01:48:14,130 Either way you don't go with it. 1388 01:48:14,570 --> 01:48:16,890 But you just share with you these. 1389 01:48:17,410 --> 01:48:19,550 All the other public hearings and statements. 1390 01:48:20,070 --> 01:48:22,690 Just because you don't say what is a scene in the beginning. 1391 01:48:22,690 --> 01:48:24,870 And it appears that it has requirements, 1392 01:48:25,730 --> 01:48:27,070 which was just in the second thing, 1393 01:48:27,090 --> 01:48:29,050 and we're beginning to have a few good subdivision 1394 01:48:29,050 --> 01:48:31,370 to leave the advertising, and that's what we're supposed to do. 1395 01:48:31,950 --> 01:48:34,730 So we can, we can, that would be, 1396 01:48:34,730 --> 01:48:37,170 that would be if the proppers are materialy changed. 1397 01:48:37,530 --> 01:48:39,190 Yes, the amount they just shook their head, 1398 01:48:39,210 --> 01:48:41,910 I don't think they'd agree to do that anyway, so I don't know. 1399 01:48:42,870 --> 01:48:46,090 We follow the proper care, so that's done. 1400 01:48:46,510 --> 01:48:48,710 It's very, we won't take it. 1401 01:48:56,730 --> 01:49:08,120 So if the applicant wanted to make another profit, an example, take it in industrial, capital 1402 01:49:08,120 --> 01:49:11,680 lessons, so why would it have to have another profit here? 1403 01:49:14,750 --> 01:49:22,090 If it's a material change to the profit, it would have to be advertised to be. 1404 01:49:22,470 --> 01:49:24,130 If it's material change, that's normal. 1405 01:49:24,290 --> 01:49:30,550 If it's a minor thing that you clarify, something that's already been profit, it probably would not. 1406 01:49:30,650 --> 01:49:36,210 For example, like the vegetative buffer to clarify that probably does not need to go on for it. 1407 01:49:36,210 --> 01:49:45,350 But if he's given up something, an example, an applicant has given up something, that's going to be beneficial in a lot of people's minds to everybody. 1408 01:49:48,000 --> 01:49:51,020 Why would it have to be changed? Why would it have to be rare times? 1409 01:49:51,540 --> 01:49:53,300 I can understand if we're going to make it more. 1410 01:49:54,100 --> 01:49:58,820 If we wanted to have something that was great, I would have more latitude than half, but you're not asking, 1411 01:50:00,460 --> 01:50:03,100 The discussion is not bad, is it the last time? 1412 01:50:05,740 --> 01:50:08,240 You're the attorney, I'm not, yeah. 1413 01:50:16,720 --> 01:50:23,220 The state code provides that if the border requests material changes to the 1414 01:50:24,460 --> 01:50:26,860 Prophors, it will need to go to another. 1415 01:50:30,180 --> 01:50:39,100 not that you ask him, if you have discussion in these says, okay, it's my best interest 1416 01:50:39,100 --> 01:50:39,500 of that. 1417 01:50:40,680 --> 01:50:43,740 Is that caused by some material change that we're requesting? 1418 01:50:45,560 --> 01:50:49,600 I think it would depend on the terms. 1419 01:51:09,670 --> 01:51:12,830 You have something to say. 1420 01:51:18,120 --> 01:51:23,020 No, some mill is not used that is in... 1421 01:51:23,020 --> 01:51:25,000 Some mill is used in the study. 1422 01:51:26,000 --> 01:51:37,120 I don't find it in the... 1423 01:51:37,120 --> 01:51:46,980 I then refer to the term industrial, which would cover a sawmill in a more general way. 1424 01:51:49,580 --> 01:51:50,260 So 1425 01:51:52,440 --> 01:51:56,360 I need to, I can't give you an answer on sawmill. 1426 01:51:57,080 --> 01:52:00,660 If you struck everything except with the answer before you don't have that right. 1427 01:52:01,940 --> 01:52:02,760 That's correct. 1428 01:52:04,380 --> 01:52:11,960 And the applicant has also said that they would work with us with staff on the landscaping 1429 01:52:15,100 --> 01:52:15,580 And 1430 01:52:17,760 --> 01:52:25,880 so we can certainly go back and go and work on that as soon as well. 1431 01:52:28,340 --> 01:52:32,960 The friendly friend's got some, it felt terrible and full-motion to go away now. 1432 01:52:38,900 --> 01:52:43,810 So we can communicate with the customers. 1433 01:52:46,150 --> 01:52:48,330 You may be able to type a little bit or move up. 1434 01:52:52,580 --> 01:52:54,840 I always just type, look, do we figure out what to do? 1435 01:52:55,100 --> 01:52:57,820 Give me a dush or a lot of you can add in the landscape buffer. 1436 01:53:00,600 --> 01:53:07,300 Okay, first of all, are there any time constraints if we were to table or that would be effective? 1437 01:53:13,420 --> 01:53:19,260 No, other than these data goes by as if it's not just that done. 1438 01:53:19,400 --> 01:53:20,140 All right. 1439 01:53:27,860 --> 01:53:33,960 I would prefer it to table this and to our next meeting and to have some more answers. 1440 01:53:37,030 --> 01:53:41,670 I have a motion to table it and to have some. 1441 01:53:44,610 --> 01:53:57,190 segment discussion, the concerns that have about the vegetation can be tin-kill with 1442 01:53:57,190 --> 01:53:58,330 satellite, right? 1443 01:54:01,820 --> 01:54:09,420 If we don't have a proper that states exactly what their intent is for the landscaping, 1444 01:54:09,840 --> 01:54:15,300 then whatever they offer us at site plan is what we would have to accept. 1445 01:54:15,900 --> 01:54:17,560 So we couldn't dress it promise. 1446 01:54:18,360 --> 01:54:19,000 That's correct. 1447 01:54:26,040 --> 01:54:27,940 That's the only thing that I'm concerned about. 1448 01:54:28,120 --> 01:54:29,440 It all that we got. 1449 01:54:30,300 --> 01:54:32,180 You know, I think we've all had conversations before. 1450 01:54:32,400 --> 01:54:38,020 We want a big land rights activist for the most part of the jersey. 1451 01:54:38,280 --> 01:54:40,160 I'd be able to do what you want to on your piece of land. 1452 01:54:40,400 --> 01:54:45,360 But I think we need to be kind of as a major thoroughfares through Louise Accounting. 1453 01:54:46,140 --> 01:54:49,880 And in our designated growth areas, in a way they can look in a lot of times 1454 01:54:49,880 --> 01:54:54,960 get applicants that I'm completely confident like now that are going to do 1455 01:54:54,960 --> 01:54:58,300 things the right way I'm going to do a good job but I guess I don't know 1456 01:54:58,300 --> 01:55:03,020 whether there's nothing this is that the applicant is applying for what he's 1457 01:55:03,020 --> 01:55:06,420 going to be the one who owns it when something happens there 1458 01:55:10,100 --> 01:55:11,040 I'll do it for sure 1459 01:55:14,430 --> 01:55:20,350 question the question from the legal person if 1460 01:55:22,360 --> 01:55:23,820 the board worked to act tonight 1461 01:55:23,820 --> 01:55:35,040 granted this rezoning. If the applicant here did not purchase it and the property went back 1462 01:55:35,040 --> 01:55:42,300 to the company, the holding company, would the rezoning go back to the holding company as well? 1463 01:55:42,900 --> 01:55:46,140 The rezoning would be complete. 1464 01:55:48,590 --> 01:55:51,110 So if you rezoned the property, it could be sold to 1465 01:55:51,110 --> 01:55:53,970 third party tomorrow. 1466 01:55:56,500 --> 01:55:57,680 You've closed on the purchase. 1467 01:56:04,290 --> 01:56:07,650 Right. Right now, I have a motion of 1468 01:56:07,650 --> 01:56:15,530 people to tag with it and I have a sign. Yes, call it questions. 1469 01:56:19,040 --> 01:56:20,640 All those things they have 1470 01:56:24,700 --> 01:56:25,360 to say 1471 01:56:26,140 --> 01:56:27,560 all those things. 1472 01:56:30,910 --> 01:56:30,910 No. 1473 01:56:30,910 --> 01:56:31,830 I will again. 1474 01:56:32,110 --> 01:56:33,030 Fath to? 1475 01:56:33,050 --> 01:56:33,530 No. 1476 01:56:33,590 --> 01:56:35,890 Four to four to take. 1477 01:56:36,790 --> 01:56:40,650 We think we, we, we, we take what's in that. 1478 01:56:40,850 --> 01:56:43,790 Not much of this is a, you know, 1479 01:56:44,190 --> 01:56:48,210 if the applicant can come forward and say I'm going to do actually. 1480 01:56:48,850 --> 01:56:50,790 It says that's has to have another public hearing. 1481 01:56:50,990 --> 01:56:54,250 If you got to do this, and it's just precious and like that. 1482 01:56:54,250 --> 01:56:58,450 I mean, it's going to go, it's going to be table, tell that takes place on it, and 1483 01:56:58,450 --> 01:56:59,650 the mission is going to be published. 1484 01:57:00,570 --> 01:57:06,310 Well, at this point, it's just table until our next meeting, my fellow, the discussion, 1485 01:57:06,690 --> 01:57:08,710 and we're not talking about the most public care fair. 1486 01:57:09,050 --> 01:57:10,310 Right, not at the same. 1487 01:57:10,630 --> 01:57:16,390 But if it doesn't make any changes, it just changes material, then it's going to be published. 1488 01:57:16,550 --> 01:57:20,470 I mean, if it has to do with 1489 01:57:22,480 --> 01:57:25,800 buffering or something like that, it doesn't have 1490 01:57:25,800 --> 01:57:27,940 It's a difficult change. 1491 01:57:29,000 --> 01:57:32,700 I think we wouldn't have to go back to the public right now. 1492 01:57:33,040 --> 01:57:33,680 No, no, no, no more. 1493 01:57:33,720 --> 01:57:35,540 That's where you might hear about a different thing. 1494 01:57:35,980 --> 01:57:36,540 No, no. 1495 01:57:38,480 --> 01:57:40,400 So this chair is to be sure I had a straight. 1496 01:57:40,800 --> 01:57:43,760 We're instructed to work out the shaman. 1497 01:57:44,020 --> 01:57:49,680 In material details, such as, for intentionated buffering, et cetera, 1498 01:57:50,040 --> 01:57:50,760 with the applicant. 1499 01:57:51,500 --> 01:57:53,540 But not to materialize the limit. 1500 01:57:53,540 --> 01:57:55,600 And the proper standpoint, the basis. 1501 01:57:56,660 --> 01:58:03,520 But what we can understand is that we can have discussions and see what comes out of it. 1502 01:58:04,000 --> 01:58:11,180 And if they're not, but significant, the terrible changes, then you won't have to do it. 1503 01:58:11,620 --> 01:58:13,120 They didn't achieve the following case. 1504 01:58:13,220 --> 01:58:13,800 Right, sir. 1505 01:58:14,200 --> 01:58:17,980 I thought we wanted to take out the industrial. 1506 01:58:19,040 --> 01:58:19,900 Can you take it in? 1507 01:58:20,160 --> 01:58:20,460 Mr. 1508 01:58:21,240 --> 01:58:22,460 Sir, can you take it in? 1509 01:58:22,460 --> 01:58:30,000 Can you just work with Ms. Corn and then sit in her district and talk to y'all to get it figured out and tell us? 1510 01:58:30,000 --> 01:58:37,780 Yes, that's work. Yeah, I need to make sure that all of this corn and work will stay up and then y'all will send us an email. 1511 01:58:38,040 --> 01:58:41,720 Let's know what you're going to do with whether we're going to have another public area, whether we're going to do it or not. 1512 01:58:42,220 --> 01:58:47,280 Mr. Chairman, I'd like to thank you for inviting the industrial issue now. 1513 01:58:50,340 --> 01:58:53,140 If the issue is about industrial and residential. 1514 01:58:55,060 --> 01:59:01,140 I believe one of the board members stated this correctly that those are the categories that 1515 01:59:01,140 --> 01:59:02,200 we're talking about. 1516 01:59:02,380 --> 01:59:09,680 The industrial uses that are allowed and have not been offered out by the applicant are 1517 01:59:09,680 --> 01:59:14,920 railroad facility, transfer station and transfer station period. 1518 01:59:15,420 --> 01:59:19,780 Those are the uses that fall into the industrial classification. 1519 01:59:22,340 --> 01:59:26,160 This is a resounding two commercial. 1520 01:59:28,380 --> 01:59:33,080 If you look at page 35, maybe this will help clarify it. 1521 01:59:33,300 --> 01:59:40,280 If you look at page 35 of this chart and you look at halfway down, 1522 01:59:40,540 --> 01:59:43,740 and it says permitted uses with conditional use permit as an example. 1523 01:59:44,500 --> 01:59:51,540 Where it says residential, that is the category of uses. 1524 01:59:51,540 --> 01:59:58,540 So an accessory partment is what the use of Civic is the next category of use. 1525 02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:27,600 Which would be public assembly. They've profit out of sheltered and they have utility service. Commercial is the next category and they've profit out construction yard, entertainment establishments, halfway house shooting range, adult store, transportation terminal, truck terminal. Industrial is the next classification of users. And they have not profit out. So they would be allowed to have a railroad facility. 1526 02:00:27,600 --> 02:00:33,920 And what happens if you get a war that our proffers are right here and those are proffers 1527 02:00:33,920 --> 02:00:36,020 and out in the proffers of recent minutes. 1528 02:00:36,280 --> 02:00:42,680 And what happens between the proffers in Europe or package and what we submitted, I can't speak to. 1529 02:00:43,540 --> 02:00:46,660 But how do you plan to give you a copy of the proffers of recent seconds? 1530 02:00:47,020 --> 02:00:49,480 We've got on page 3839, it's in the following. 1531 02:00:49,600 --> 02:00:52,620 You see, as an NFL infection 82 there, we lose kind of case. 1532 02:00:52,820 --> 02:00:53,940 We're not being permitted. 1533 02:00:53,940 --> 02:01:01,500 Under that, it says subsection B, where I wrote facility transfer station, where housing is distribution. 1534 02:01:02,740 --> 02:01:04,380 It's things that will not be allowed. 1535 02:01:08,750 --> 02:01:09,850 Oh, I'm back to the comments. 1536 02:01:10,090 --> 02:01:15,070 I hear every talk a little bit about landscaping, and then that went into the buffer, 1537 02:01:15,870 --> 02:01:19,550 or a buffer doesn't necessarily tell me the same thing in landscaping. 1538 02:01:21,680 --> 02:01:23,400 I'm going to say we want to go in there. 1539 02:01:25,420 --> 02:01:31,140 I'd say it's table to the next meeting we can have further discussion. 1540 02:01:32,080 --> 02:01:37,000 I'll start off with Mr. Greenland asked questions about who we were talking about, so I was trying to get my opinion. 1541 02:01:37,400 --> 02:01:38,300 Yes, that's fine. 1542 02:01:38,800 --> 02:01:47,720 I'm going to be working with that on your interview with Greenland at a question to you as soon as possible. 1543 02:01:48,040 --> 02:01:50,340 They come up with like to re-bought this by next week. 1544 02:01:50,340 --> 02:01:52,560 And I also mischievous. 1545 02:01:52,840 --> 02:01:55,600 Think being an applicant's best interest is top of you too. 1546 02:01:55,880 --> 02:01:55,900 What? 1547 02:01:57,240 --> 02:01:57,980 I have a conversation. 1548 02:01:58,840 --> 02:02:01,340 So we've got to think of that as a matter. 1549 02:02:01,680 --> 02:02:04,340 Let's put it in the middle of it. 1550 02:02:05,740 --> 02:02:07,180 It's moved on with administrative. 1551 02:02:07,760 --> 02:02:09,700 Well, do you want to? 1552 02:02:09,740 --> 02:02:10,880 I don't know. 1553 02:02:11,200 --> 02:02:12,760 You want to go to time, listen to me. 1554 02:02:12,820 --> 02:02:14,180 I don't know if we may be able to talk to members. 1555 02:02:17,040 --> 02:02:18,140 Commit in the report. 1556 02:02:19,400 --> 02:02:20,200 I think we need to do that. 1557 02:02:20,820 --> 02:02:23,500 Over here you are, let's get over that. 1558 02:02:25,660 --> 02:02:27,560 All right, we'll see you in the mess. 1559 02:02:27,800 --> 02:02:29,740 Our state is a valid place of playground. 1560 02:02:30,180 --> 02:02:31,500 You can talk about it. 1561 02:02:32,640 --> 02:02:36,820 Yes, I'm sure this is a game engineering, 1562 02:02:37,140 --> 02:02:38,380 Solar Studies, et cetera. 1563 02:02:38,680 --> 02:02:40,520 So I've shared it with the value of the potential properties 1564 02:02:40,520 --> 02:02:42,100 for the ADA, which is important. 1565 02:02:42,300 --> 02:02:44,220 This is just requesting the boards of approval 1566 02:02:44,220 --> 02:02:45,780 to move forward in some of those studies. 1567 02:02:51,840 --> 02:02:53,200 Through a group check. 1568 02:02:56,100 --> 02:02:58,900 Don't we get the same thing in my ask media saying 1569 02:02:58,900 --> 02:03:05,220 And the study, the particular issue, we were just putting a price tag with the potential amount. 1570 02:03:05,760 --> 02:03:08,200 I just thought we were just understanding where it was going to be. 1571 02:03:10,270 --> 02:03:10,990 I would, 1572 02:03:14,100 --> 02:03:17,100 you question, I have to explain what came up with the plan information. 1573 02:03:17,240 --> 02:03:28,830 That is what the overall impact of this may be for the Canada's hold from the services that may be required. 1574 02:03:28,830 --> 02:03:35,090 but anyway, it looks as though we don't have that and it's to me it's, I felt like we should 1575 02:03:35,090 --> 02:03:37,190 have that before we fall into this thing. 1576 02:03:37,650 --> 02:03:39,530 It's a good service to talk about matured. 1577 02:03:39,710 --> 02:03:48,250 And that would be when, at the Planck Mission I would talk about this, it's going to be certainly 1578 02:03:48,250 --> 02:03:58,090 and it seems to be a really great thing to bring in, but it also was discussed about bringing 1579 02:03:58,090 --> 02:04:07,330 and people may move here for the benefit of the, to use the support in what had, and the 1580 02:04:07,330 --> 02:04:16,130 question came up is to what, what services may be required when people move here that 1581 02:04:16,850 --> 02:04:18,170 utilized as part of it. 1582 02:04:18,290 --> 02:04:24,350 I can't believe in the Donald Trump 21st century that people still think like that. 1583 02:04:24,350 --> 02:04:36,350 I mean, that is absurd to say because somebody got a physical challenge that they're going to move there, or whatever we got people even, they're like, it's got to be crazy. 1584 02:04:38,610 --> 02:04:40,910 I suspect I disagree with Mr. Barnes. 1585 02:04:41,550 --> 02:04:45,870 The last month we talked about an over-representation of people in free and reduced 1586 02:04:45,870 --> 02:04:46,170 much. 1587 02:04:46,370 --> 02:04:51,370 If we look at it, we said, over crowded in the jails and there's something different here. 1588 02:04:51,490 --> 02:04:55,890 And I think the question was, can we look, this is objectively, look at it. 1589 02:04:55,890 --> 02:05:00,770 Can we look to see if it does bring or does it in change it in and all? 1590 02:05:00,770 --> 02:05:09,930 We had schools just recently had a dish where required additional spending to help to educate kids in a specific area. 1591 02:05:10,410 --> 02:05:19,530 You know, I'm saying, you guys, you guys, do the backwards, as you can be living in a bubble, I cannot believe that the discussions. 1592 02:05:20,770 --> 02:05:28,510 I'm a little bit, I cannot believe the discussion of a adapted park relates to having adapted 1593 02:05:28,510 --> 02:05:32,290 people, move it to use, and then adapt the park, that's going to cost tax rather 1594 02:05:32,290 --> 02:05:32,770 more. 1595 02:05:33,150 --> 02:05:33,830 That is crazy. 1596 02:05:34,310 --> 02:05:39,290 That's like saying, for example, we have people that come and use other facilities that 1597 02:05:39,290 --> 02:05:44,050 we've been far more money, or educate kids than we do talking about adapt the park. 1598 02:05:44,330 --> 02:05:45,930 I mean, that's a discriminatory. 1599 02:05:45,930 --> 02:05:50,390 to even think like that in the script of the story, and I was in it. I'm just going to say it. 1600 02:05:50,390 --> 02:05:53,530 And who was in, I was telling him, saying thank you. That's how I see it in the brain. 1601 02:05:53,870 --> 02:05:59,230 His band of kids, he had gone causes more money. Or, or bring the end of the race, that's crazy. 1602 02:05:59,630 --> 02:06:05,530 Did we hear a couple of months ago where it says, in human services that we apparently attract people? 1603 02:06:05,990 --> 02:06:09,940 I'm Mr. Barry, I'm in this conversation, but I'm telling people, pick it on four people. 1604 02:06:10,620 --> 02:06:14,080 It said the poor people called love problem or people that visit the 1605 02:06:14,080 --> 02:06:15,780 channels or hand account calls more problem. 1606 02:06:16,800 --> 02:06:20,420 I mean this is like seeing and you know a person that helped you out 1607 02:06:20,420 --> 02:06:22,500 whole the call, I mean that's crazy. 1608 02:06:23,320 --> 02:06:24,120 That is, I can't believe. 1609 02:06:25,180 --> 02:06:27,800 When you talk about poor people, you research my family. 1610 02:06:28,360 --> 02:06:29,200 And you can find it. 1611 02:06:29,200 --> 02:06:30,100 Do you want to go for more? 1612 02:06:30,280 --> 02:06:30,460 I do. 1613 02:06:30,880 --> 02:06:31,240 I don't believe. 1614 02:06:31,780 --> 02:06:32,280 Yeah, that's good. 1615 02:06:32,740 --> 02:06:33,060 That's good. 1616 02:06:33,260 --> 02:06:33,800 That's good. 1617 02:06:34,760 --> 02:06:38,360 I think that any of these guys here's a title there. 1618 02:06:38,360 --> 02:06:43,740 when you don't get any answers, any questions they want, and I think everybody's the type 1619 02:06:43,740 --> 02:06:48,760 of whoever they want was born to aim is to buy it, but to answer your questions, or 1620 02:06:48,760 --> 02:06:51,680 go outside, everybody feels about those few questions. 1621 02:06:52,400 --> 02:06:56,460 I think this is not what to get that out of. 1622 02:06:56,580 --> 02:06:57,860 These parks don't exist. 1623 02:06:58,720 --> 02:07:03,240 There's not one that's been built, that's 100% all inclusive, 1624 02:07:05,420 --> 02:07:07,060 the design has changed from the 1625 02:07:07,060 --> 02:07:09,800 and we started talking about the grant even until now. 1626 02:07:10,200 --> 02:07:11,580 I'm exactly how it's going to be. 1627 02:07:11,700 --> 02:07:12,760 It's something that's ever evolving. 1628 02:07:13,640 --> 02:07:18,240 So if you can't, there's no data to be had to figure out 1629 02:07:18,240 --> 02:07:21,800 whether an all-inclusive part would bring folks to the community 1630 02:07:21,800 --> 02:07:23,720 who needed an all-inclusive part, 1631 02:07:23,780 --> 02:07:25,800 because there's not such thing anywhere to look at. 1632 02:07:28,420 --> 02:07:29,020 All this, Jack. 1633 02:07:29,120 --> 02:07:31,500 I think we have expressed concerns in the past 1634 02:07:31,500 --> 02:07:34,600 about the fact we've got a big percentage of folks 1635 02:07:34,600 --> 02:07:37,560 in the regional jail, a set of set of set of set of set of, 1636 02:07:37,560 --> 02:07:42,580 I've heard nobody come up with data saying why, and this is part of another one of those 1637 02:07:42,580 --> 02:07:42,720 case. 1638 02:07:42,860 --> 02:07:43,800 I don't think that exists. 1639 02:07:44,140 --> 02:07:51,960 We can make assumptions, but believe me, we could really come up data for this issue. 1640 02:07:52,220 --> 02:07:55,500 We sure there will be a bit of a comment that if I would get more people in jail at this 1641 02:07:55,500 --> 02:07:55,760 county. 1642 02:07:55,940 --> 02:07:57,580 We can't do that. 1643 02:08:03,330 --> 02:08:09,310 I have a motion in a second and I have a whole question now, all of the things that I have. 1644 02:08:09,310 --> 02:08:09,730 All right. 1645 02:08:10,590 --> 02:08:11,430 All four things. 1646 02:08:15,050 --> 02:08:15,670 That one, sir. 1647 02:08:26,630 --> 02:08:31,190 Next, again, I'm supporting the display of nice model and done with trust. 1648 02:08:31,350 --> 02:08:32,790 So a little second? 1649 02:08:33,490 --> 02:08:34,190 I'll tell you. 1650 02:08:36,690 --> 02:08:37,330 I'll tell you. 1651 02:08:39,550 --> 02:08:40,670 I'll tell you. 1652 02:08:40,670 --> 02:08:46,810 fifth of whereas in this resolution it says whereas the board desires to display this 1653 02:08:46,810 --> 02:08:53,950 patriotic motive and public meeting room as a way to solemnize public occasions and express 1654 02:08:53,950 --> 02:08:56,010 confidence in our society. 1655 02:08:58,090 --> 02:09:02,210 When that hill is not me. We love God. 1656 02:09:02,530 --> 02:09:06,110 Now I mean we've got all the other things to say that but that I don't see where that 1657 02:09:06,110 --> 02:09:09,570 weren't to me it's just it's hard to find what that word is. 1658 02:09:11,430 --> 02:09:17,030 I don't think that Mr. Ginger is completely offended and entitled to have these resolutions 1659 02:09:17,030 --> 02:09:20,610 that he's taken a check of rejection with too. 1660 02:09:22,090 --> 02:09:28,470 We weren't in any way that he wants him to, I think they know what's to, and God, we trust 1661 02:09:28,470 --> 02:09:29,530 put up on the wall. 1662 02:09:29,830 --> 02:09:34,690 Well, that's not, that's not taking away that objective, so that's where it is. 1663 02:09:35,750 --> 02:09:36,410 Why's it needed to be there? 1664 02:09:36,590 --> 02:09:39,130 I think this is the last time that resolution will ever be around. 1665 02:09:41,240 --> 02:09:43,340 You're still sick of having it. 1666 02:09:43,720 --> 02:09:46,720 Yeah, and you know, it's 1667 02:09:48,900 --> 02:09:50,680 all those effects, yeah. 1668 02:09:50,720 --> 02:09:50,940 Yeah. 1669 02:09:51,340 --> 02:09:52,360 I'll post it. 1670 02:09:55,760 --> 02:09:56,400 I'm not a person. 1671 02:09:56,640 --> 02:09:57,980 I'm not a person in the market, but you look at that statement. 1672 02:09:58,240 --> 02:10:01,960 That's what makes money to be where it means after the meeting. 1673 02:10:03,260 --> 02:10:03,780 I'll take it. 1674 02:10:04,220 --> 02:10:05,240 I'll take it. 1675 02:10:05,240 --> 02:10:06,920 Hey, no matter what, Paul. 1676 02:10:10,590 --> 02:10:12,670 We've got a... 1677 02:10:12,670 --> 02:10:13,750 I'll go this time. 1678 02:10:14,170 --> 02:10:14,990 Yes, sir. 1679 02:10:15,170 --> 02:10:15,630 Thank you. 1680 02:10:15,830 --> 02:10:16,730 Thank you. 1681 02:10:18,270 --> 02:10:22,490 The jail authority has formed the finance committee. 1682 02:10:23,570 --> 02:10:26,810 The finance committee is going to be two county administrators. 1683 02:10:28,150 --> 02:10:31,230 We have the county minister for the county. It spends the most. 1684 02:10:31,630 --> 02:10:34,210 We got the county minister for the county. It spends at least two. 1685 02:10:35,210 --> 02:10:35,770 Myself. 1686 02:10:36,650 --> 02:10:39,530 And I've boarded a city advisory member from Cleveland County. 1687 02:10:40,270 --> 02:10:41,070 Along with Glenn. 1688 02:10:41,710 --> 02:10:45,090 I owe the superintendent Teresa of the finance director of the jail. 1689 02:10:45,090 --> 02:10:51,570 we're going to be meeting to review the Jail's budget to see what we can do to lessen the 1690 02:10:51,570 --> 02:10:54,310 impact on the localities. 1691 02:10:56,910 --> 02:11:02,330 A few of the options we're going to look at just to give you guys a heads up or now I'll 1692 02:11:02,330 --> 02:11:06,370 come back with a presentation and tell you probably before you meet with the authority but 1693 02:11:06,370 --> 02:11:07,250 the Jail's got it. 1694 02:11:07,990 --> 02:11:09,970 We're going to try to do some reduction in staffing. 1695 02:11:12,090 --> 02:11:17,610 We might get rid of the road gain for a while so we wouldn't be getting the streets, streets, 1696 02:11:17,610 --> 02:11:20,650 plenty of more, so we could use those two deputies inside of the jail. 1697 02:11:21,470 --> 02:11:28,690 We also might look at using some of the jail's fund balance and reserve on this in order 1698 02:11:28,690 --> 02:11:34,810 to offset the initial cost of localities, keeping in mind that eventually it would take 1699 02:11:34,810 --> 02:11:40,390 back up to what it's projected to be now or something close to it, but at least we could 1700 02:11:40,390 --> 02:11:41,890 push it all for a while. 1701 02:11:41,890 --> 02:11:48,090 but when I have some more information to share, I will be happy to share it and I apologize 1702 02:11:48,090 --> 02:11:52,530 and I don't have a lot of details for you, but when we're looking at two things and I think 1703 02:11:52,530 --> 02:11:55,110 it's better to give you something than giving nothing. 1704 02:11:55,950 --> 02:11:56,870 That's a shame, that's a question. 1705 02:11:57,990 --> 02:11:58,590 Oh, yes, that's a question. 1706 02:11:58,650 --> 02:12:00,070 Well, it's not difficult to answer. 1707 02:12:00,110 --> 02:12:00,730 That's a answer. 1708 02:12:01,590 --> 02:12:10,050 Oh, just wait, if you look at doing away with the road gang, whatever, I was an impression 1709 02:12:10,050 --> 02:12:18,090 that the major impact we have was, we have a higher number, so I've kept people in the system. 1710 02:12:18,790 --> 02:12:24,390 So, is that going to, if we do those other things, is that going to just proportionate 1711 02:12:24,390 --> 02:12:26,070 being what we get to be made for? 1712 02:12:26,810 --> 02:12:30,230 Yes, so I think it was two separate questions if I'm not mistaken. 1713 02:12:31,290 --> 02:12:34,650 The other reason to get rid of the revolutions is because it's the last deputies we have 1714 02:12:34,650 --> 02:12:35,150 to have. 1715 02:12:35,150 --> 02:12:43,430 We basically, the localities pay for two extra deputies to be able to do road crews that come out and claim that brothers. 1716 02:12:44,270 --> 02:12:48,110 If we didn't have those two extra deputies and they wouldn't have two deputies to bring them out. 1717 02:12:48,210 --> 02:12:50,570 But you need to say them down to prisoners to run the jail regardless. 1718 02:12:51,250 --> 02:12:55,230 So if you're having to believe the jail, then it's two extra positions. 1719 02:12:55,230 --> 02:13:00,430 So actually, it calls to you money to have a road gang. 1720 02:13:00,570 --> 02:13:04,850 It's just not a benefit of having prisoners. 1721 02:13:05,310 --> 02:13:08,970 I think that is the kind of misconception folks have. 1722 02:13:09,890 --> 02:13:14,330 The road gang is two full-time employees that you otherwise would not need. 1723 02:13:16,190 --> 02:13:23,150 In our community, the amount of services we get from a road gang is equally divided between all the localities. 1724 02:13:23,150 --> 02:13:28,570 It's not a portion of the amount of money we put into the jail board into the jail's operations. 1725 02:13:31,550 --> 02:13:34,530 And all the rest about communities, I don't have any time to throw you away. 1726 02:13:37,500 --> 02:13:38,800 You know, they come out of the porch. 1727 02:13:39,180 --> 02:13:39,680 That's not fair. 1728 02:13:41,460 --> 02:13:45,380 I'm sitting on the rabbit heading on juvenile condition, and I also said, 1729 02:13:45,460 --> 02:13:46,620 I don't want its findings to be made. 1730 02:13:46,820 --> 02:13:48,580 They've had a finance committee for many years. 1731 02:13:50,990 --> 02:13:52,730 So I don't find it to be paid for. 1732 02:13:53,090 --> 02:13:57,210 I was calling five students to sit on a juvenile center condition. 1733 02:13:57,210 --> 02:14:03,850 So, and time and strength and it's very difficult to get up there for two separate meetings. 1734 02:14:04,270 --> 02:14:05,210 You have a talk to. 1735 02:14:05,390 --> 02:14:07,470 You have to see what you're going to meet. 1736 02:14:07,930 --> 02:14:09,610 This is all for today in that case. 1737 02:14:09,830 --> 02:14:11,030 Wait, is that mean important names? 1738 02:14:14,050 --> 02:14:15,510 Just because we're different. 1739 02:14:15,570 --> 02:14:16,030 I might tell you. 1740 02:14:17,550 --> 02:14:18,750 Did we need that in a way? 1741 02:14:19,470 --> 02:14:22,130 And in a way, I'd like to point this a trigger. 1742 02:14:22,490 --> 02:14:25,990 The findings are going to be based on virtue of his financial expertise. 1743 02:14:25,990 --> 02:14:32,690 And he's willing to accept that and I don't want the approval of the board to do it because the chair will not be joining the commission. 1744 02:14:33,390 --> 02:14:38,010 But certainly there are any objections that can happen to the president before I ask the commission. 1745 02:14:38,930 --> 02:14:41,250 I was a little closer to Mr. Chairman. 1746 02:14:41,310 --> 02:14:41,950 Mr. Chairman. 1747 02:14:43,510 --> 02:14:55,370 I met Mr. Trader who's been learning the candidate for the hands working for the school system and working for the county as a new finance director. 1748 02:14:56,130 --> 02:14:59,390 Is this something else we're going to be adding to his play while he's still doing? 1749 02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:16,400 Those two roles, are we going to wait until he gets, and I'm not saying that you did the same thing. So, right, so there's somebody else we could put on if you think it would be better, but since you both are doing so much right now. Is it that crucial opportunity? 1750 02:15:17,900 --> 02:15:25,880 It's the committee that formulas the budget for the center and fairly significant fund balance, and the use of that fund balance. 1751 02:15:26,060 --> 02:15:33,040 And to give it a year has presented has prevented increases to us for those increases that you're from staff as a result. 1752 02:15:33,180 --> 02:15:39,020 I think of the habit of using one of that fund balance is very minimal for less than $10,000. 1753 02:15:55,400 --> 02:16:11,240 I think that's your call, I probably should let you make it without it, but in the mouth, so I apologize, but it's kind of a guess. It's a great concern. I talk to you, Trader, and make sure that he is, over to you. 1754 02:16:11,240 --> 02:16:17,000 the requirements of the finance committees, you know, the six to eight meetings per year for 1755 02:16:17,000 --> 02:16:19,880 the amount of talking about a lot that this industrial process has. 1756 02:16:19,900 --> 02:16:20,680 Can we just enable? 1757 02:16:21,100 --> 02:16:23,040 Does the other candidates have board members on? 1758 02:16:23,760 --> 02:16:24,280 They do. 1759 02:16:25,240 --> 02:16:25,400 They do. 1760 02:16:25,700 --> 02:16:25,960 They do. 1761 02:16:26,240 --> 02:16:26,400 They do. 1762 02:16:26,400 --> 02:16:26,420 They do. 1763 02:16:26,420 --> 02:16:26,540 They do. 1764 02:16:26,540 --> 02:16:26,940 They do. 1765 02:16:26,940 --> 02:16:28,140 They do. 1766 02:16:31,320 --> 02:16:31,800 They do. 1767 02:16:31,800 --> 02:16:35,340 people on those clients committee who are not members of the commission, it's also 1768 02:16:35,340 --> 02:16:38,840 a really nice balance of expertise for about an antelope commission itself. 1769 02:16:39,180 --> 02:16:45,120 If you need to help Chris Alman, Pitsnea, I can't attend to a problem with that, but 1770 02:16:45,120 --> 02:16:49,600 for us to get a group of people that can just be nice cutting and not have to do with that place. 1771 02:16:49,780 --> 02:16:50,080 I got you. 1772 02:16:50,440 --> 02:16:51,220 I got you. 1773 02:16:52,340 --> 02:16:53,400 Thank you very much. 1774 02:16:54,380 --> 02:16:55,760 It's a broadband committee. 1775 02:16:56,200 --> 02:17:00,360 I know something that is calling myself a training to keep people from moving 1776 02:17:00,360 --> 02:17:07,320 have a not have broadband, but that's not the case. The community has really been working really hard 1777 02:17:07,320 --> 02:17:14,460 to talk to communication and lots of staff and people really worked hard. We're almost close to a 1778 02:17:14,460 --> 02:17:21,340 fence with their whole packet. There'd be presenting a to the board, but one thing, some of you 1779 02:17:21,340 --> 02:17:27,200 I'll maybe get in contact before we get up. One thing that's definitely I did talk about was the fact 1780 02:17:27,200 --> 02:17:33,760 that we've got a seat and felt strong about CUP's with some of those towels, because what 1781 02:17:33,760 --> 02:17:39,580 you don't want is to drive down the road and everybody got towels in their yards and the 1782 02:17:39,580 --> 02:17:47,400 neighbors didn't have a chance to have a safe as we told the committee when the bigger problem 1783 02:17:47,400 --> 02:17:53,960 that we get is when neighbors find out that things have popped up and they weren't notified. 1784 02:17:53,960 --> 02:18:00,020 So, but there are some other people that feel that CQP does strain and a little bit, they're 1785 02:18:00,020 --> 02:18:03,360 building to put up these poles. 1786 02:18:04,060 --> 02:18:08,860 We're looking at some business things and some different things, where maybe if you are 1787 02:18:08,860 --> 02:18:14,140 on a big 500 acre farm, maybe a treat to different or whatever, rather than discussing 1788 02:18:14,140 --> 02:18:15,040 we may have. 1789 02:18:15,700 --> 02:18:21,360 But right now, the work that the committee has done, I'll tell you now, other little 1790 02:18:22,100 --> 02:18:27,240 will be contacting us to see this document, because right now there's not a lot of 1791 02:18:27,240 --> 02:18:32,860 a piece where you can get it from. And so we're kind of on cutting the edge of this 1792 02:18:32,860 --> 02:18:38,220 document and there's no part of it used by a lot of cowards. So we'll move back as we pick 1793 02:18:38,220 --> 02:18:47,000 the vendor at the last meeting to go through the ordinance. And so we'll move right along 1794 02:18:47,000 --> 02:18:49,620 have a missing thing of. And that that's 1795 02:18:51,900 --> 02:18:55,500 been a meeting and we'll probably be at the 1796 02:18:56,320 --> 02:19:01,120 arts board meeting to present a new broadband authority next September. 1797 02:19:01,560 --> 02:19:04,300 Can it be tomorrow night, right? 1798 02:19:04,760 --> 02:19:05,120 Okay. 1799 02:19:05,560 --> 02:19:05,640 Okay. 1800 02:19:06,520 --> 02:19:07,080 Yeah. 1801 02:19:07,520 --> 02:19:08,080 Yes. 1802 02:19:08,320 --> 02:19:09,100 That's right. 1803 02:19:10,700 --> 02:19:13,420 And you're looking at the audience, you know, we had a, I think, 1804 02:19:13,420 --> 02:19:20,420 It was in Russia, it had a collection one time that they cost for something that prevented them from being able to do something. 1805 02:19:20,980 --> 02:19:23,520 Is that the audiences you're looking at, all the count of them? 1806 02:19:23,540 --> 02:19:24,160 That's right. 1807 02:19:24,760 --> 02:19:25,760 And we could do stills good. 1808 02:19:26,280 --> 02:19:28,740 And we recommend the reductions in some of those calls. 1809 02:19:29,000 --> 02:19:32,640 And that's going to be a meaningful message. 1810 02:19:33,500 --> 02:19:33,680 Right. 1811 02:19:34,220 --> 02:19:35,340 And that $4500. 1812 02:19:36,880 --> 02:19:40,440 It's in a $4500 fee for doing one of those studies. 1813 02:19:41,080 --> 02:19:41,660 that's not a good one. 1814 02:19:41,660 --> 02:19:43,040 Yeah, that's good. 1815 02:19:43,640 --> 02:19:44,320 That's good. 1816 02:19:44,320 --> 02:19:44,800 That's good. 1817 02:19:45,820 --> 02:19:46,340 That's good. 1818 02:19:46,340 --> 02:19:47,840 That's good. 1819 02:19:48,200 --> 02:19:49,160 Yeah, mid-re�. 1820 02:19:58,280 --> 02:19:59,220 The report. 1821 02:20:04,210 --> 02:20:08,110 The county administration report. 1822 02:20:08,910 --> 02:20:11,350 Part 2 of the information, I think it was. 1823 02:20:11,650 --> 02:20:12,770 We've heard of it. 1824 02:20:13,130 --> 02:20:18,310 We just have a little read from website and if you haven't been on it, it really 1825 02:20:18,310 --> 02:20:25,190 She says, because I've went on and I was there for two hours and it's phenomenal, everything 1826 02:20:25,190 --> 02:20:26,930 that's incorporate about that. 1827 02:20:33,790 --> 02:20:39,350 Jane and her office worked this year with the Commission on Aging on the Yellow Book. 1828 02:20:39,510 --> 02:20:42,110 And I think everybody's made a female book. 1829 02:20:42,550 --> 02:20:44,430 And it's kind of a Bible to some of the seniors. 1830 02:20:45,090 --> 02:20:49,050 And they brought about a significant savings in doing that. 1831 02:20:49,050 --> 02:20:51,970 And Jane, I really appreciate being the liaison to that group. 1832 02:20:52,130 --> 02:20:55,350 I really appreciate the work that you and your group did on that. 1833 02:20:55,750 --> 02:21:01,110 Those folks kind of hold that pretty close to the chest, but there's a lot of improvements 1834 02:21:01,110 --> 02:21:06,230 made and perhaps some time in the future, I may be some opportunity to fold that into 1835 02:21:06,230 --> 02:21:09,050 something else so you don't have those additional expenditures. 1836 02:21:10,170 --> 02:21:12,230 But you're a group that I'm really good job on that. 1837 02:21:13,210 --> 02:21:18,970 I think it's worked well in another case where you kind of get folks who have skilled in 1838 02:21:18,970 --> 02:21:22,250 are going to do something and it's going to prove to be beneficial. 1839 02:21:27,270 --> 02:21:31,080 And then as I forward a point, 1840 02:21:34,510 --> 02:21:35,470 I forward a promise. 1841 02:21:38,920 --> 02:21:41,740 I guess we've got a way to find it in many committees we will have. 1842 02:21:42,080 --> 02:21:46,980 We have a list of somebody going to take that away with us. 1843 02:21:50,320 --> 02:21:50,600 All right. 1844 02:21:51,900 --> 02:21:52,760 Can a ministry report? 1845 02:21:53,740 --> 02:21:58,420 It's sort of turned forward, and so I think the attention would cover some of these, 1846 02:22:00,130 --> 02:22:06,190 and I think that another Lanko flood drop date, and so there's the delay once again, 1847 02:22:07,170 --> 02:22:10,590 on 118, we've been in a system that's been in damage damage. 1848 02:22:10,950 --> 02:22:12,590 That's the chance of going forward. 1849 02:22:13,430 --> 02:22:15,770 We'll be wrapped up right in six or seven for February, 1850 02:22:16,450 --> 02:22:19,810 and we'll have to do a lot of needs further look at the end and the assessments. 1851 02:22:21,490 --> 02:22:28,270 Also, there's communication and treatment from the Blubana County Board Chairman for Guarding, 1852 02:22:28,350 --> 02:22:34,130 the Central Water and Sewer, and they're willing to just have a workshop with staff, 1853 02:22:34,370 --> 02:22:35,550 and work with them as a group of Guarding. 1854 02:22:39,310 --> 02:22:42,470 And just a couple of day reminders, first and foremost, 1855 02:22:42,830 --> 02:22:47,010 and you shouldn't see the cancellation. You have to spotlight two or three Thursdays, and 1856 02:22:47,010 --> 02:23:02,370 I was talking about the idea workshop, which is 29 to 12 p.m. and Mr. Reminder about local government days for the vehicle of the General Assembly on February 10th. 1857 02:23:04,710 --> 02:23:10,150 The lot of this we've got to Ms. Mozilla, what's 1858 02:23:12,520 --> 02:23:23,530 in the work of the work of the work of the work of the work of the work of what needs to be done, I mean is that it's supposed to have a response back. 1859 02:23:24,650 --> 02:23:34,050 I think probably what I would like to have to do is represent it to work with representatives from the band 1860 02:23:36,450 --> 02:23:40,110 in the work set and they requested it at least a little bit. 1861 02:23:42,660 --> 02:23:52,140 I think that letter gets to the set asked for some specifics, so we need to be working on our response to those specific specifics. 1862 02:23:52,140 --> 02:23:54,500 Otherwise, it's just from being like the last two, 1863 02:23:54,680 --> 02:23:56,480 where you don't really get that, they need to be killed. 1864 02:23:56,860 --> 02:23:57,460 All right. 1865 02:23:57,600 --> 02:24:02,160 So the specifics that they're requesting are going to be 1866 02:24:02,160 --> 02:24:03,800 how it depends on the cost. 1867 02:24:04,120 --> 02:24:06,100 So if you're able to deal with it through the war project, 1868 02:24:06,300 --> 02:24:07,880 the operation is also set here. 1869 02:24:08,160 --> 02:24:09,540 That's right, that means that. 1870 02:24:10,120 --> 02:24:12,000 So they're going to be going to go far, right? 1871 02:24:13,340 --> 02:24:14,760 Well, number, right. 1872 02:24:14,920 --> 02:24:17,160 So what they doing for us and my things, sure. 1873 02:24:19,670 --> 02:24:28,250 And I think this board needs to communicate to child administrator, where we are one 1874 02:24:28,250 --> 02:24:31,330 that we may connect with that up a bit too. 1875 02:24:31,990 --> 02:24:41,390 We need to give you a clear direction as to whether we are on that because of the REE, 1876 02:24:41,390 --> 02:24:42,370 I have a patient deal with that. 1877 02:24:42,450 --> 02:24:43,250 I have a fairer with couple six. 1878 02:24:43,990 --> 02:24:46,110 So we're on track to meet that right now. 1879 02:24:46,850 --> 02:24:49,890 This is a terrorist, the more we deal with this is a photograph of a patient together. 1880 02:24:50,150 --> 02:24:51,730 The Hong Kong's been reviewing it. 1881 02:24:58,030 --> 02:25:01,010 All of the item we'll mention in the animal order. 1882 02:25:02,190 --> 02:25:04,310 Actually part of the previous discussion. 1883 02:25:04,690 --> 02:25:05,630 I'll give you something to do. 1884 02:25:11,470 --> 02:25:11,910 Probably. 1885 02:25:13,310 --> 02:25:17,570 Can't speak to whether or not all this things have been discussed in the previous discussion. 1886 02:25:18,110 --> 02:25:18,790 I don't know. 1887 02:25:19,890 --> 02:25:22,570 Some of them certainly add that the things have been most, 1888 02:25:22,570 --> 02:25:24,470 And it's called the side. 1889 02:25:25,250 --> 02:25:25,330 Yeah. 1890 02:25:25,330 --> 02:25:28,050 And I'll be able to thank you. 1891 02:25:28,970 --> 02:25:33,150 I don't think it's tough to send two board members to do with Modell saying, 1892 02:25:33,790 --> 02:25:39,790 because those two board members will have the power to really get over what Nick. 1893 02:25:39,830 --> 02:25:41,210 I think we need brain boards. 1894 02:25:43,230 --> 02:25:46,810 I know their boards and their board that we can communicate with. 1895 02:25:46,810 --> 02:25:56,130 And so, I think we need to sit down as boy and talk, call, stand, and I think now it's time for a break. 1896 02:25:56,770 --> 02:25:59,490 Can we, my group as Barnes, we eventually got to get together. 1897 02:25:59,630 --> 02:26:04,710 I think maybe it would be better to send two board members every talk to them. 1898 02:26:06,270 --> 02:26:08,170 And go over their specific questions. 1899 02:26:08,450 --> 02:26:12,730 But I think Keenan, a little bit of Mr. Ginger, said, if we get to two boards together, 1900 02:26:12,730 --> 02:26:17,290 I was 13, I was 11, 12, 12, 12, 11. 1901 02:26:17,410 --> 02:26:19,470 We did it together and they say, 1902 02:26:19,470 --> 02:26:21,970 how quickly you're going to have water to the Zion Cross Road 1903 02:26:21,970 --> 02:26:23,410 and how much is it going to cost us? 1904 02:26:23,630 --> 02:26:26,250 We said we don't have, I was going to be the end of the week. 1905 02:26:26,550 --> 02:26:30,550 I mean, just to respond to this question earlier, 1906 02:26:31,130 --> 02:26:31,870 we've had two meetings. 1907 02:26:31,890 --> 02:26:35,570 We talked about the big picture, the overall cost of a whole project. 1908 02:26:36,670 --> 02:26:38,810 But in the potential health, through that account, 1909 02:26:38,810 --> 02:26:45,790 with it and maybe participating water from the design and some of those basic things, but 1910 02:26:45,790 --> 02:26:51,450 we're getting down to point out where we really have to have some somewhat numbers, because 1911 02:26:51,450 --> 02:26:55,330 they haven't decided yet whether they want to participate yet in an agreement, and because 1912 02:26:55,330 --> 02:26:59,850 they start seeing the numbers. So that's what this letter is doing, ask me to follow that 1913 02:26:59,850 --> 02:27:01,890 more detail information. That's what it's going to do. 1914 02:27:02,510 --> 02:27:07,970 I kept my big question in large storage capacity and existing space. 1915 02:27:11,560 --> 02:27:12,960 The last time. 1916 02:27:14,660 --> 02:27:17,030 If you, the last time Mr. Nujer and I met with them. 1917 02:27:18,240 --> 02:27:20,420 It's my understanding that the meeting was. 1918 02:27:20,760 --> 02:27:21,920 They had a few questions. 1919 02:27:22,300 --> 02:27:25,120 Some of the same questions they had now that we could not answer. 1920 02:27:26,840 --> 02:27:31,560 And we told them that they go back and figure out how much of the capital and best 1921 02:27:31,560 --> 02:27:36,580 partner, they could be. They were going to come back and give us the general idea. And once 1922 02:27:36,580 --> 02:27:42,860 we knew whether they were going to be a partner or a customer, it would go a long way 1923 02:27:42,860 --> 02:27:49,420 to determine what those calls were going to be. And they did not elaborate on partner versus 1924 02:27:49,420 --> 02:27:55,560 customer at all in this letter. So I think that our communication need two of them needs to be. 1925 02:27:56,320 --> 02:28:03,260 Are you, once you get past the James Lord of Water Authority's part, are you strictly 1926 02:28:03,260 --> 02:28:06,620 want to be a customer after that, and not a partner in any of the infrastructure, 1927 02:28:07,660 --> 02:28:10,440 and I think that will determine the overall cost? 1928 02:28:10,880 --> 02:28:16,620 And I think technically this board is not taking a decision whether we don't have an agreement. 1929 02:28:17,640 --> 02:28:24,180 The expectation of both groups, everybody has expectations, but do we have a solidified 1930 02:28:24,180 --> 02:28:29,840 expectation from our board of our board, and I think that we have to have that at some point 1931 02:28:30,680 --> 02:28:34,780 because, you know, when you talk to any of the men individually, we'll expect this to happen 1932 02:28:34,780 --> 02:28:41,160 and we want this. And to me, this talks about funding, the funding is just one piece, 1933 02:28:41,540 --> 02:28:45,140 the expectations, and I don't know that you have that. How they have it either. 1934 02:28:46,880 --> 02:28:52,500 Well, how they must have been about it in their opinion. We need to first to say what is that we want 1935 02:28:52,500 --> 02:28:57,500 communicate that to us down, then I know the chairman of the launch people, but my book 1936 02:28:57,500 --> 02:29:02,380 would be the list of the way to Mr. General Library to start the bridge communication 1937 02:29:02,380 --> 02:29:09,360 to continue that communication, but what a more forceful from us where we are. It's kind 1938 02:29:09,360 --> 02:29:13,860 of hard to send people in to negotiate if they don't know what to get negotiate with. So 1939 02:29:13,860 --> 02:29:22,300 I think this board needs to define what it is. You know, for example, there were times with 1940 02:29:22,300 --> 02:29:25,420 If we got to do the whole thing, that's your whole thing, you get up. 1941 02:29:26,600 --> 02:29:31,340 So we need to clearly divide what is that we want. 1942 02:29:32,460 --> 02:29:34,080 We need that question, I guess we don't do that. 1943 02:29:34,260 --> 02:29:35,720 Do you want to be a customer or a partner? 1944 02:29:36,740 --> 02:29:38,460 Well, I don't think they can answer a question. 1945 02:29:38,700 --> 02:29:39,780 They get some of the numbers. 1946 02:29:40,980 --> 02:29:42,080 I don't think we can. 1947 02:29:42,300 --> 02:29:43,160 Excuse me, Frank Rose. 1948 02:29:43,440 --> 02:29:48,620 And I think it, again, it's going to be very difficult to put 1949 02:29:48,620 --> 02:29:53,760 Operation numbers together without the infrastructure or at least designed out of the cycle. 1950 02:29:54,020 --> 02:29:55,640 That's going to have a material effect on great. 1951 02:29:55,900 --> 02:29:59,540 So what we can look at is the structure and something that's what we have for the town. 1952 02:30:00,000 --> 02:30:18,220 Senate range in which the rate can be approved. We'll be calculated by adding x-lines, we call it sub, and it can't exceed what it would be very helpful, so we won't put it in place, and then we've built something that creates a reasonable expectation, but also creates a framework in which they can expect a minimum of maximum. 1953 02:30:20,620 --> 02:30:25,280 I don't know much about this, it's a big return time, it's bad to read it like I am. 1954 02:30:26,560 --> 02:30:34,140 There was article this past weekend about Combo-N, Pow-Tan, and right-cow, what they're doing 1955 02:30:34,140 --> 02:30:40,960 with that browser war and what are the James, and they've pretty much, they're in agreement 1956 02:30:40,960 --> 02:30:46,300 process and they're working with, but make them also short, and I've said before, there 1957 02:30:46,300 --> 02:30:51,960 come a time I think. What a state is going to say. Those of you who haven't 1958 02:30:51,960 --> 02:30:57,020 gotten out of the James, you won't give that a change. And that is my biggest fear 1959 02:30:57,020 --> 02:31:01,360 because when the state told everybody about our values go, we need a water 1960 02:31:01,360 --> 02:31:05,520 study. We want to water study a little cloudy that they will think of down 1961 02:31:05,520 --> 02:31:10,880 rope for that. So now that our neighbors, to low us, are dipping in that same 1962 02:31:10,880 --> 02:31:16,040 important that it is very crucial to us moving forward. 1963 02:31:20,460 --> 02:31:21,420 I agree Mr. Barnes. 1964 02:31:21,600 --> 02:31:22,620 I mean, we had a point. 1965 02:31:22,760 --> 02:31:27,140 I think that obviously if we've had a county wants to partner up with this, they need one. 1966 02:31:28,100 --> 02:31:30,700 But we have not said for sure what we will partner up with. 1967 02:31:30,900 --> 02:31:31,940 We really have it. 1968 02:31:32,020 --> 02:31:36,480 And at the same time, if we could, they're going to partner up with us, they need no 1969 02:31:36,480 --> 02:31:37,720 what's going to cost them to me. 1970 02:31:38,420 --> 02:31:39,920 That's simply what we are. 1971 02:31:40,100 --> 02:31:42,380 And one of the time, you know, they, you know, 1972 02:31:42,380 --> 02:31:49,400 the pipe that's coming up to frankly, you know, if they terminated some place in 1973 02:31:49,400 --> 02:31:49,880 the thing. 1974 02:31:50,240 --> 02:31:55,440 An example of the, if you want a 12 inch pipe to make us actually $1,000 just for water, 1975 02:31:55,440 --> 02:31:58,900 but if they want to get water to be run a 24 inch pipe, do you want to put it in the pipe 1976 02:31:58,900 --> 02:32:03,340 to create an incremental, incremental difference in there, or do they come on as a regular 1977 02:32:03,340 --> 02:32:04,720 potty of those type of things? 1978 02:32:04,800 --> 02:32:10,790 I think that we have to firm up, so we don't know, because they have expectations and we 1979 02:32:10,790 --> 02:32:15,250 of expectation. Do you can we get those in one document to say we all support this well as 1980 02:32:15,250 --> 02:32:19,810 us to bonds and I agree on something? If this is what the final decision of the chart is, 1981 02:32:19,890 --> 02:32:22,710 that's what we go with. But we've got to have that at some point. 1982 02:32:24,950 --> 02:32:25,950 To me, it's critical. 1983 02:32:26,850 --> 02:32:28,310 We have to have it. Do you know what I'm saying? 1984 02:32:28,910 --> 02:32:36,210 Sounds like we've spent months and months and months talking about, you know, what we need to do 1985 02:32:36,210 --> 02:32:39,890 as far as number one, how we're going to pay for this side. 1986 02:32:40,690 --> 02:32:43,450 But then we have 1987 02:32:45,530 --> 02:32:50,970 one who has a representative that's all excited about it, and that we 1988 02:32:50,970 --> 02:32:52,270 know that. 1989 02:32:53,730 --> 02:33:00,990 And his expectations, I think, are totally different than what we should say, big. 1990 02:33:01,390 --> 02:33:08,110 So I mean, I think this morning, we got to decide what we want to do with it, and then 1991 02:33:08,110 --> 02:33:09,650 we can talk through them 1992 02:33:11,730 --> 02:33:15,450 and we've heard everybody wants to go follow with it. 1993 02:33:16,210 --> 02:33:21,550 But then that's kind of, it just runs running circles after that. 1994 02:33:21,690 --> 02:33:26,370 I don't think we haven't taken action to decide exactly what we're going to go. 1995 02:33:26,730 --> 02:33:29,190 And they haven't taken board action because they don't know what to call. 1996 02:33:29,570 --> 02:33:31,440 So both boards sitting there just kind of... 1997 02:33:31,850 --> 02:33:31,950 Yeah. 1998 02:33:32,230 --> 02:33:33,470 We said a lot of back board. 1999 02:33:34,190 --> 02:33:38,390 I'm suggesting we do a combination of what everybody said. 2000 02:33:40,390 --> 02:33:48,810 That's just to not get me with him talk to him, so I mean if you're going to participate in this thing from a CIP standpoint, 2001 02:33:48,990 --> 02:33:54,590 you're going to have plenty of money for infrastructure and for treatment either of water or of sewage. 2002 02:33:54,830 --> 02:34:08,010 And if you are, how much? And if you're not, that's fine. If you're not, we can do what Mr. Good wants to adjust it and do basically work in conjunction with the water authority, because the fee structure is going to be 2003 02:34:09,110 --> 02:34:15,150 their deal, not ours, and come up with a high and low. 2004 02:34:15,170 --> 02:34:18,710 Who's on a changewater rental? Who's on their thirties? 2005 02:34:19,410 --> 02:34:24,850 I suppose you do D-watch and Steve Nichols. 2006 02:34:27,680 --> 02:34:31,200 Does he, what a thirties, they get enough? 2007 02:34:31,200 --> 02:34:37,280 they're looking for some on that acquisition of property. So they will own the 2008 02:34:37,280 --> 02:34:41,280 essential of the property and the pipe associated there will come and up 2009 02:34:41,280 --> 02:34:47,160 there's within. Mr. Chairman, do we need about to have a problem with it? 2010 02:34:47,840 --> 02:34:57,590 Fab bullet points, that chairman Booker, set to us, to respond to. I think I think both 2011 02:34:57,590 --> 02:34:59,770 and even though the answer is those books. 2012 02:35:00,090 --> 02:35:00,570 I get to. 2013 02:35:00,570 --> 02:35:02,870 And right now, how would you respond to that? 2014 02:35:03,290 --> 02:35:10,530 No, I'm saying allow Mr. Wade and Mr. Dentist to start with those bullet points. 2015 02:35:12,530 --> 02:35:14,750 I think timing is either one. 2016 02:35:15,150 --> 02:35:16,910 That's construction time table. 2017 02:35:18,590 --> 02:35:20,230 Water treatment costs you can find those. 2018 02:35:20,850 --> 02:35:24,450 But how do you want to partner with these costs? 2019 02:35:24,770 --> 02:35:25,590 Or you want to be a youth. 2020 02:35:25,590 --> 02:35:30,590 And I think that would go to, and I think when they meet, we just act at the specific question. 2021 02:35:30,750 --> 02:35:34,330 I think it was $15 million to be a partner. 2022 02:35:34,450 --> 02:35:36,110 Then the cost of order goes down to a business. 2023 02:35:36,290 --> 02:35:37,450 They give us zero dollars. 2024 02:35:37,670 --> 02:35:39,030 The cost of order changes tremendously. 2025 02:35:39,390 --> 02:35:40,890 So what we got to do is a partner. 2026 02:35:40,970 --> 02:35:41,870 We got to do it a lot. 2027 02:35:42,230 --> 02:35:48,850 What a partner means working towards a 50, 50, equity, 50, and understood. 2028 02:35:49,290 --> 02:35:50,590 Well, they didn't need to happen next. 2029 02:35:50,710 --> 02:35:53,390 I think you shouldn't even meet with Fluvana. 2030 02:35:53,390 --> 02:35:59,870 and ask that specific question, and let them know prior to the meeting that you will ask that question, so they can top it up over. 2031 02:36:00,450 --> 02:36:05,450 If they don't want to be far enough to be working on the assumption of their customers that we call it whether they are ready, 2032 02:36:05,630 --> 02:36:06,930 so how much else to get the order? 2033 02:36:07,150 --> 02:36:09,050 Everybody in the brain would be there. 2034 02:36:09,550 --> 02:36:10,070 That's somewhere. 2035 02:36:10,570 --> 02:36:10,790 Oh, God. 2036 02:36:11,750 --> 02:36:12,230 Good job. 2037 02:36:12,450 --> 02:36:13,970 You have been doing it again with the investigation. 2038 02:36:15,530 --> 02:36:18,030 I just want to make sure we have more information. 2039 02:36:18,330 --> 02:36:19,130 We can give them a chance. 2040 02:36:19,450 --> 02:36:21,090 Otherwise, we'll be in the moment. 2041 02:36:21,090 --> 02:36:23,130 You want to stand like you're not going to? 2042 02:36:23,130 --> 02:36:25,190 Well, they ensign you way that the last meeting 2043 02:36:25,190 --> 02:36:28,150 needs to count an interest rate and make comments about 2044 02:36:28,150 --> 02:36:31,050 part and stuff from the land from Frank Diff's designs. 2045 02:36:31,930 --> 02:36:33,390 If he either was born. 2046 02:36:33,450 --> 02:36:36,610 But again, that's the count of administrators talking. 2047 02:36:37,570 --> 02:36:39,230 And we go, if you don't watch, we'd be right back 2048 02:36:39,230 --> 02:36:40,730 where we've been in the last 20 years. 2049 02:36:40,750 --> 02:36:42,730 You've got a lot of talking going back and forth. 2050 02:36:43,110 --> 02:36:44,390 And neither board taken action. 2051 02:36:44,590 --> 02:36:47,750 So you're saying that when you all go and meet with them, 2052 02:36:47,750 --> 02:36:50,750 Should Christian and Nichols be that too? 2053 02:36:52,090 --> 02:36:53,430 Well, it's steeped. 2054 02:36:53,430 --> 02:36:54,050 They've been there. 2055 02:36:54,390 --> 02:36:54,610 They've been there. 2056 02:36:54,610 --> 02:36:56,310 And they've been there. 2057 02:36:56,650 --> 02:36:59,410 I think what it's going to turn into to be broadcast with these. 2058 02:36:59,430 --> 02:37:02,410 We're going to ask them if they're going to be partners or customers. 2059 02:37:02,990 --> 02:37:05,630 They're probably going to tell us they want to be partners. 2060 02:37:05,870 --> 02:37:07,410 They're not going to be able to commit to any sort of money. 2061 02:37:07,550 --> 02:37:08,970 We're going to proceed like the customers. 2062 02:37:09,670 --> 02:37:11,870 But at least we'd have for sure that we can't have anything like that. 2063 02:37:12,170 --> 02:37:12,930 So that's what's going to happen. 2064 02:37:12,930 --> 02:37:15,330 And I think when I went apart in the years, you know, 2065 02:37:15,390 --> 02:37:18,490 it's a part of the first two miles on the further, 2066 02:37:18,730 --> 02:37:20,630 a 30% of the next mile, you know, 2067 02:37:20,710 --> 02:37:22,410 somewhere we're going to find what a part of it is. 2068 02:37:22,810 --> 02:37:23,530 Yeah, I agree. 2069 02:37:24,410 --> 02:37:24,470 All right. 2070 02:37:25,070 --> 02:37:27,750 So we said that trial will end up going to come. 2071 02:37:29,570 --> 02:37:31,610 We'll get off this topic completely. 2072 02:37:31,930 --> 02:37:33,210 Oh, we already, yeah. 2073 02:37:33,650 --> 02:37:37,110 Your approach, you go back and read the other two letters that we wrote. 2074 02:37:37,730 --> 02:37:38,890 That we wrote. 2075 02:37:38,890 --> 02:37:44,690 the gate gates fields that we're looking for in the agreement, so you know that the total 2076 02:37:44,690 --> 02:37:46,030 history is on that part. 2077 02:38:05,030 --> 02:38:07,990 The chair was a kind of noise that we thought. 2078 02:38:08,010 --> 02:38:08,670 Yes, sir. 2079 02:38:08,950 --> 02:38:10,910 And I can tell it doesn't matter. 2080 02:38:11,990 --> 02:38:15,110 The relation of law is not a problem. 2081 02:38:15,110 --> 02:38:16,310 But we're able to say. 2082 02:38:16,890 --> 02:38:19,110 No, it's both in the movies, sir. 2083 02:38:21,050 --> 02:38:22,510 All on the face, sir. 2084 02:38:22,510 --> 02:38:23,510 No, no. 2085 02:38:24,570 --> 02:38:24,890 Go to the prison. 2086 02:38:25,570 --> 02:38:25,590 Don't. 2087 02:38:27,530 --> 02:38:28,050 Build the prison. 2088 02:38:28,070 --> 02:38:29,070 You'll be in the same. 2089 02:38:30,390 --> 02:38:30,630 No, don't. 2090 02:38:30,630 --> 02:38:31,270 All over the place. 2091 02:38:32,870 --> 02:38:33,590 All, all opposed. 2092 02:38:35,350 --> 02:38:36,370 Men, it's appropriate. 2093 02:38:36,530 --> 02:38:37,430 No, move. 2094 02:38:38,290 --> 02:38:38,870 No, no, don't. 2095 02:38:39,790 --> 02:38:40,030 No. 2096 02:38:40,190 --> 02:38:40,570 Stop. 2097 02:38:41,690 --> 02:38:41,890 Move. 2098 02:38:42,130 --> 02:38:42,450 Go to the prison. 2099 02:38:43,330 --> 02:38:43,590 Go to the prison. 2100 02:38:45,190 --> 02:38:45,430 Move. 2101 02:38:45,430 --> 02:38:49,510 That's what I'm saying.