1 00:00:56,270 --> 00:01:16,530 Before we start officially, we do have someone who kindly gave a note that there's a white Izuzu outside with their lights on that haven't gone off in the last four minutes, so they're probably going to be on for the rest of the night unless somebody wants to turn them off or face the consequences. 2 00:01:29,620 --> 00:01:39,980 Okay, I'd like to call a meeting back to order and motion, I moved to certified that I moved 3 00:01:39,980 --> 00:01:40,860 to go back and do a search. 4 00:01:44,550 --> 00:01:45,530 Ready to gather again? 5 00:01:47,370 --> 00:01:49,650 Okay, we have motion. 6 00:01:49,790 --> 00:01:50,390 We have a second. 7 00:01:51,670 --> 00:01:52,090 Any discussion? 8 00:01:52,670 --> 00:01:53,270 On favorite. 9 00:01:53,630 --> 00:01:54,370 Any opposed? 10 00:01:55,010 --> 00:01:57,230 Okay, we are now officially backed to open. 11 00:01:58,510 --> 00:01:59,630 There's motion to certified. 12 00:01:59,630 --> 00:02:04,390 I move to certify that the best of each member's knowledge, and only matters were discussed 13 00:02:04,390 --> 00:02:08,790 during the closed session where those lawfully exempted from the open meeting requirements 14 00:02:08,790 --> 00:02:12,950 and identified in the motion by which the closed session was convened. 15 00:02:13,010 --> 00:02:18,430 For so it, the Virginia Code Section 2.2-3712D. 16 00:02:18,430 --> 00:02:21,990 D So I need a rule called vote starting with Mr. 17 00:02:22,130 --> 00:02:22,570 Gentry. 18 00:02:22,870 --> 00:02:23,730 Yes sir. 19 00:02:23,870 --> 00:02:24,510 Yes. 20 00:02:27,230 --> 00:02:27,550 We 21 00:02:30,170 --> 00:02:33,950 have the motion and we have the second. 22 00:02:34,990 --> 00:02:37,810 So we're done there so we're now certified to open the meeting. 23 00:02:43,220 --> 00:02:44,260 Welcome there. 24 00:02:44,580 --> 00:02:49,480 Welcome there everyone both here physically and also listening from home or wherever. 25 00:02:50,940 --> 00:02:57,000 We feel this is an important transparency aspect that we've been conducting over this past year. 26 00:02:57,700 --> 00:02:59,780 So this is a continuation of that principle. 27 00:03:00,540 --> 00:03:05,600 So we're going to start with the invocation by Mr. Barnes, and in the 28 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:08,180 Prejud allegiance, you're welcome to stand if you choose to. 29 00:03:11,660 --> 00:03:14,280 Well, these are better cross alone, all the world go free. 30 00:03:14,780 --> 00:03:17,460 There's a cross that I ever wanted, there's a cross for me. 31 00:03:17,460 --> 00:03:21,320 Father God, a few of your humble service, we stand before you today, Father God, did the 32 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:25,560 benefit of the transact to hit a day, Father God, better the people who live in this 33 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:25,940 county. 34 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:29,900 Father God, we'll be remiss, and we'll ask you to best out truth to protect us both 35 00:03:29,900 --> 00:03:30,740 fine and near. 36 00:03:31,180 --> 00:03:33,680 Blessed citizen, hit the wheel and your name, we pray, Amen. 37 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:55,500 I'd like to get an adoption of the agenda. 38 00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:57,860 So we have a second. 39 00:03:57,880 --> 00:03:58,580 Okay, we have a motion. 40 00:03:58,700 --> 00:03:59,360 We have a second. 41 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:00,820 Any discussion? 42 00:04:01,580 --> 00:04:02,080 On favor. 43 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:02,820 Aye. 44 00:04:02,820 --> 00:04:03,360 Any opposed? 45 00:04:03,700 --> 00:04:04,380 Motion carries. 46 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:08,900 All for motion to approve the minutes of the past meeting. 47 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:10,300 Thank you. 48 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:11,000 Any discussion? 49 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:12,660 Any on favor? 50 00:04:13,500 --> 00:04:14,140 Any opposed? 51 00:04:14,540 --> 00:04:15,220 Motion carries. 52 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:17,200 Motion to approve. 53 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:22,840 Important in motion to approve the bills so second have motion in a second 54 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:31,460 He discussion on favor and he opposed motion carries and call for motion to approve our consent agenda 55 00:04:31,460 --> 00:04:35,960 So move second motion in a second and he discussion on 56 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:36,620 Favorite 57 00:04:36,620 --> 00:04:39,200 Any polls motion carries 58 00:04:40,340 --> 00:04:41,060 Recognitions 59 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:46,860 Is there any recommendations could you make yes sir you have two recognitions in the first on the agenda 60 00:04:46,860 --> 00:04:50,880 is the Vehicle Achievement Award, which the county and more specifically the schools receive. 61 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:56,020 So I believe we have Vehicle Representatives here and also members of our team from the schools. 62 00:04:56,220 --> 00:04:58,000 And I would invite you all to come down front. 63 00:04:59,220 --> 00:04:59,980 Stand up front. 64 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:01,400 We'll be glad to present an award. 65 00:05:07,860 --> 00:05:09,680 Good evening, Mr. Chairman. Members of the Board. 66 00:05:09,840 --> 00:05:11,300 I'd like to have you stand right down front. 67 00:05:11,820 --> 00:05:12,620 And your team. 68 00:05:15,210 --> 00:05:17,770 Mr. Chair, I would be back with the Virginia Association of Counties. 69 00:05:17,810 --> 00:05:20,190 It's my distinct pleasure to be here in my home county. 70 00:05:20,190 --> 00:05:25,790 Louise to present the Vapeco Achievement Award, very quickly for the benefit of your constituents 71 00:05:25,790 --> 00:05:28,370 who may not be familiar with the Virginia Association of Counties. 72 00:05:29,050 --> 00:05:33,290 Vapeco was established in 1934 to aid county officials in the further midst of their duties. 73 00:05:33,750 --> 00:05:36,890 First and foremost is through our advocacy of the State and Federal Government, but also 74 00:05:36,890 --> 00:05:42,050 in providing support through our educational programs, member services, and communication efforts. 75 00:05:42,590 --> 00:05:47,830 In 2003, we established our Achievement Award program to recognize counties that have adopted 76 00:05:47,830 --> 00:05:51,950 Innovative Approaches Providing Public Services, Identifying Programs, and the Conservatives 77 00:05:51,950 --> 00:05:53,490 Models for other counties to emulate. 78 00:05:54,070 --> 00:05:56,990 And today I'm proud to present Louise Accounting with its Chief and Award. 79 00:05:58,670 --> 00:06:00,070 And just some quick other points. 80 00:06:00,310 --> 00:06:02,530 This is our 19th Annual Achievement Awards Program. 81 00:06:03,010 --> 00:06:05,830 We received 102 entries in 2021. 82 00:06:06,670 --> 00:06:08,990 And 30 winners were selected from 19 counties. 83 00:06:09,970 --> 00:06:14,650 It was truly competitive as only 29% of entries selected were selected as winners. 84 00:06:14,650 --> 00:06:19,890 And today, Louisa County has won eight achievement awards, and that includes the Best 85 00:06:19,890 --> 00:06:21,850 Achievement Award in 2012. 86 00:06:22,810 --> 00:06:27,310 And there were several criteria that our judges chose to consider whether the program offered 87 00:06:27,310 --> 00:06:32,030 the innovative solution to a problem situation or delivery services and whether it provides 88 00:06:32,030 --> 00:06:34,670 a model that other local governments can use. 89 00:06:35,270 --> 00:06:39,670 And today, as I said, as my district pleasure to recognize Louisa County for its wireless 90 00:06:39,670 --> 00:06:43,290 on wheels program, aptly acronymed as wow. 91 00:06:43,290 --> 00:06:45,130 because wow, this was a great program. 92 00:06:46,790 --> 00:06:50,350 So I'll let Dr. Dr. Strayley talk a little bit more about this, 93 00:06:51,290 --> 00:06:54,110 but providing internet services through an innovative way 94 00:06:54,110 --> 00:06:57,110 to the citizens and students of Louisiana County 95 00:06:57,110 --> 00:07:00,010 during a very trying time where virtual learning was needed. 96 00:07:00,770 --> 00:07:02,130 We were amazed that you basically 97 00:07:02,130 --> 00:07:04,310 megivered the internet for students. 98 00:07:06,350 --> 00:07:08,230 And in a truly altruistic fashion, 99 00:07:09,050 --> 00:07:10,990 public for blue friends and how you did it online. 100 00:07:11,250 --> 00:07:12,850 So the other counties across the Commonwealth 101 00:07:12,850 --> 00:07:14,910 could choose to death as if they wanted to. 102 00:07:15,770 --> 00:07:18,010 So we'd like to congratulate Louise Accounting 103 00:07:18,010 --> 00:07:19,290 Gans, excellent program. 104 00:07:19,690 --> 00:07:22,050 I'd like to say a few words briefly, 105 00:07:22,090 --> 00:07:23,330 and then we can present the award, 106 00:07:23,490 --> 00:07:24,850 and maybe get a picture of whatever recipients 107 00:07:24,850 --> 00:07:25,870 and the board members. 108 00:07:26,150 --> 00:07:28,290 Yeah, and I would really want to recognize these two gentlemen, 109 00:07:28,790 --> 00:07:30,570 right here, David Children's, Kenny Bowens. 110 00:07:31,330 --> 00:07:33,910 When we first knew, we were going to have some issues 111 00:07:33,910 --> 00:07:37,430 back in March 2020 with COVID. 112 00:07:38,110 --> 00:07:41,730 These two came to me, and when we were talking about internet issues 113 00:07:41,730 --> 00:07:44,350 and said, we've got to think outside the box. 114 00:07:44,530 --> 00:07:45,730 We've got to come with a different solution. 115 00:07:46,950 --> 00:07:48,990 And we started tossing things out there 116 00:07:48,990 --> 00:07:51,530 and they took off, ran with it and came up with wow, 117 00:07:51,670 --> 00:07:53,870 our wow units, which still are out in our community today 118 00:07:53,870 --> 00:07:56,450 for our families and our students to use. 119 00:07:56,550 --> 00:07:58,550 I'm very proud of these two gentlemen in the team. 120 00:07:58,670 --> 00:08:00,570 And I just wanted to say thank you in public 121 00:08:00,570 --> 00:08:03,870 to these two gentlemen who really made a huge impact 122 00:08:03,870 --> 00:08:06,870 on our students and continue to make that impact on our families. 123 00:08:06,970 --> 00:08:09,730 As many of our families are adults in the community 124 00:08:09,730 --> 00:08:11,310 who are working from home 125 00:08:11,310 --> 00:08:14,730 We're using these units. In fact, I spoke to one yesterday out in the Food Line parking lot. 126 00:08:14,810 --> 00:08:20,130 He was parked there, using it as a workspace because they can't, they don't have the internet at home. 127 00:08:20,710 --> 00:08:25,330 So, I just wanted to recognize these two gentlemen. I wanted to thank you for this award as well. 128 00:08:25,690 --> 00:08:31,270 And to appreciate you all who helped fund this to make it happen for our community, our Board of Supervisors. 129 00:08:31,490 --> 00:08:34,970 We want to see who funded this effort as we took off with it. 130 00:08:35,250 --> 00:08:37,610 So, thank you to you for funding this for our community. 131 00:08:37,610 --> 00:08:43,490 And one final thing are students are now building these units for the community, so it's our career 132 00:08:43,490 --> 00:08:48,310 technical education of students who are now building these through the plans developed, of course, 133 00:08:48,490 --> 00:08:53,730 they're working with them to do it through the technology classes as well as building trades classes to make this happen. 134 00:08:54,070 --> 00:08:55,350 So it's pretty pretty phenomenal. 135 00:08:56,050 --> 00:09:02,850 Just a minute or so, just to explain, so there are audience fully understands these are hot spots 136 00:09:02,850 --> 00:09:09,050 And could you go into the number, I think there was 12 originally and there were place that strategic locations, right? 137 00:09:09,330 --> 00:09:11,430 Yes, there are hotspots put out in the community and originally. 138 00:09:12,150 --> 00:09:15,410 We said, hey, let's put these on buses. This was the original idea that came out. 139 00:09:15,510 --> 00:09:17,610 Let's put them on buses, park them throughout the community. 140 00:09:18,290 --> 00:09:23,870 This is when back in March of 2020 when we first went to pandemic first hits our community could have internet. 141 00:09:24,470 --> 00:09:29,550 And then we came out of that was these two gentlemen said, that's not going to work because eventually the buses are going to be on the road. 142 00:09:29,550 --> 00:09:32,170 And how we're going to get a power source, 143 00:09:32,350 --> 00:09:33,930 where if we want to put them in the middle of the food line, 144 00:09:34,110 --> 00:09:35,550 parking lot, how we're going to have a power source. 145 00:09:35,990 --> 00:09:40,290 So let's do solar powered Wi-Fi hotspots 146 00:09:40,290 --> 00:09:43,090 in different areas of the community. 147 00:09:43,750 --> 00:09:45,330 So it's a solar powered unit. 148 00:09:45,410 --> 00:09:46,610 You pull up to it. 149 00:09:46,970 --> 00:09:49,550 If you're for the 150 feet, you gather the service, 150 00:09:49,950 --> 00:09:51,650 and you can do your work right there. 151 00:09:51,790 --> 00:09:52,530 So we have them in parks. 152 00:09:52,750 --> 00:09:54,610 We have them in parking lots. 153 00:09:54,970 --> 00:09:56,410 We have them in church parking lots. 154 00:09:56,510 --> 00:09:59,530 We have them in just various areas throughout the entire community. 155 00:09:59,530 --> 00:10:06,550 We have 33 I believe deployed right now, units throughout the community, and others that are waiting 156 00:10:06,550 --> 00:10:07,130 to be deployed. 157 00:10:07,310 --> 00:10:10,830 So if you have an area in the county that you would like to have one of these things put, 158 00:10:11,490 --> 00:10:14,970 we're happy to see you go out and see if it will work there and put it there. 159 00:10:15,310 --> 00:10:20,170 So members of our community can take hold, but again, really appreciate these two gentlemen 160 00:10:20,170 --> 00:10:24,550 and their efforts on this project and working with our students and teachers on it as well. 161 00:10:24,830 --> 00:10:25,150 Thank you. 162 00:10:25,510 --> 00:10:26,130 Thank you. 163 00:10:30,770 --> 00:10:33,310 We even have a pumpkin so that it looks seasonal. 164 00:10:35,350 --> 00:10:38,610 Come on, guys. Let's get you all up here behind them. Then you all can be in the background. 165 00:10:42,370 --> 00:10:43,830 We've got nothing to do. 166 00:10:44,950 --> 00:10:48,830 Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. 167 00:10:54,900 --> 00:10:55,300 Let's go. 168 00:10:55,300 --> 00:10:59,040 I'm going to talk to you here. 169 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:01,060 I'm going to talk to you. 170 00:11:01,060 --> 00:11:02,440 One, two, three. 171 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:03,400 One, two, three. 172 00:11:05,780 --> 00:11:06,600 Thank you, John. 173 00:11:07,180 --> 00:11:07,840 You're welcome. 174 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:09,440 This is my back. 175 00:11:09,660 --> 00:11:09,740 It's a second. 176 00:11:10,620 --> 00:11:11,240 You're welcome. 177 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:11,800 You're welcome. 178 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:12,220 Yeah. 179 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:13,460 You're welcome. 180 00:11:16,500 --> 00:11:17,060 Thank 181 00:11:19,530 --> 00:11:20,090 you. 182 00:11:20,390 --> 00:11:20,690 Thank you. 183 00:11:20,690 --> 00:11:20,990 Thank you. 184 00:11:21,370 --> 00:11:21,790 Thank you. 185 00:11:22,290 --> 00:11:22,770 Thank you. 186 00:11:26,250 --> 00:11:28,010 Where's our representative, are you, guys? 187 00:11:35,930 --> 00:11:42,070 Mr. Chairman, a member of the Board, you have one more recognition on your agenda and that's a presentation of a memorial resolution, 188 00:11:42,150 --> 00:11:49,210 a posthumously for John Thomson, and I would like to invite Senator Reeves and his assistant if he would like to read this and also would invite, 189 00:11:49,210 --> 00:11:54,010 believe we have representative of Mr. Thomson's family, representative of Mr. Thomson's family, representative of Mr. Thomson's family. 190 00:11:54,570 --> 00:12:00,390 We're here tonight and we would love to have like come down front and stand up front while the resolution is right if they be so kind. 191 00:12:21,420 --> 00:12:23,360 Mr. Chairman, with your permission. 192 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:29,500 Mr. Chairman, members of the chamber and the audience, it's my distinct privilege 193 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:32,340 as a senator of the 17th District. 194 00:12:33,660 --> 00:12:37,480 One of the neat things we do get to do is recognize those great 195 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:42,400 Virginians who have gone before us and blazed the path, so others can follow. 196 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:48,400 And Mr. Chairman, I had the unique opportunity to put a bill forward for Dr. 197 00:12:49,060 --> 00:12:52,960 Thompson and I'd like to just read the resolution if I may. 198 00:12:54,180 --> 00:12:59,620 It's Senate Joint Resolution 320 celebrating the life of Dr. John E. Thompson. 199 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:05,760 Patrons are a Reeves Bell, Boyzco, Hal Peak, Spurle, and Delegate Spiron Cole, two 200 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:06,120 coals. 201 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:12,000 Actually, Davis Fowler, Heritage, Hope, Resuel, Reed, Simon, Simmons, where in Watts, agreed 202 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:17,060 to by the Senate on January 28th, 2021, and agreed to by the House of Delegate's February 203 00:13:17,060 --> 00:13:22,700 first 2021. It says, whereas Dr. John E. Thomason and his team mortician who made history 204 00:13:22,700 --> 00:13:28,700 as the first African-American elected to public office in Louisiana County died on July 205 00:13:29,860 --> 00:13:36,100 22nd 2020. And whereas John Thomason founded Thomason funeral service in Louisiana County 206 00:13:36,100 --> 00:13:46,780 in 1951 and lovingly supported his community by caring for its mortuary and funeral needs for 207 00:13:46,780 --> 00:13:51,000 African-American elected official to serve Louisa County when he won a seat on Louisa County 208 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:53,120 Board of Supervisors in 1979. 209 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:59,500 After losing his seat in 1981, he would be re-elected in 1985, and ultimately served 210 00:13:59,500 --> 00:14:03,040 by a total of six years on the board as the Patrick Henry District Representative. 211 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:08,860 And we're as during his tenure on the Louisa County Board of Supervisors John Thomason, 212 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:13,920 helped the county achieve fiscal stability, plan for a responsible growth, and develop 213 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:16,040 an implement crucial infrastructure project. 214 00:14:16,260 --> 00:14:18,480 He also gave generously of his time in talents 215 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:21,360 by serving on various committees, boards, organizations, 216 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:25,080 and, whereas John Thomason will be remembered as a leader 217 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:29,160 who built consensus through his kind and compassionate nature 218 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:32,920 and with his unique insights and approaches 219 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:35,040 to Louisa County's most complex challenges. 220 00:14:36,220 --> 00:14:37,840 And whereas John Thomason was dedicated 221 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:41,340 to the academic development and well-being of young people 222 00:14:41,340 --> 00:14:43,700 and was generous supporter, Louisa County High School 223 00:14:43,700 --> 00:14:49,060 and Sam Paul College. And whereas both the Virginia Mortist and Association and Sam Paul's 224 00:14:49,060 --> 00:14:54,480 College have bestowed the John E. Thomason Scholarships upon an untold number of students, 225 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:59,880 helping many pursue their academic dreams. And whereas to recognize John Thomason's achievement in many 226 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:19,180 Attributions to the Sampulse College Community. The school established the John E. Thomiston Student Center, and his honor, and whereas on August 17, 2020, this board, the Louisiana County Board of Supervisors, voted unanimously in favor of a resolution recognizing John Thomiston service, and his contributions to the Louisiana County Community. 227 00:15:19,180 --> 00:15:24,580 And whereas the judge, as whereas John Thomason will finally remember, and dearly 228 00:15:24,580 --> 00:15:29,140 missed by his wife Christine, his daughter, land, and numerous other family members and 229 00:15:29,140 --> 00:15:33,480 friends, now therefore, be resolved by the Senate and the House of delegates concurring that 230 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:38,240 the General Assembly hereby note, with great sadness, the lost of Dr. John E. Thomason, 231 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:44,040 a respect and artistic community leader, who had a profound and lasting impact on the 232 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:47,960 lives in Louisiana County and be it resolved further that the clerk of the Senate prepared 233 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:52,920 copy of this resolution for presentation to the family of Dr. John E. Thomason as an 234 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:57,460 expression of the General Assembly's respect for his memory, signed, Susan Clarkshar, 235 00:15:57,720 --> 00:15:58,460 clerk of the Senate. 236 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:29,760 But we'd like to come from the diocese, thank her for her service as well. 237 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:31,960 I think that'd be great, Andrew. 238 00:16:36,750 --> 00:16:37,230 Good evening. 239 00:16:38,290 --> 00:16:39,130 Good evening. 240 00:16:39,130 --> 00:16:39,330 Good evening. 241 00:16:39,330 --> 00:16:42,250 First of all, I'll be remiss, Mr. Christine. 242 00:16:43,170 --> 00:16:49,270 I knew you had been personally and when I first ran for the Board of Surveillance, he's 243 00:16:51,430 --> 00:16:59,230 And he was sitting in his office and he had an old paymaster, and he was poor, and they gave him 244 00:16:59,230 --> 00:17:01,370 my first contribution ever as elected official. 245 00:17:02,090 --> 00:17:06,070 But Mr. Thompson was monumental in our community here in the winter. 246 00:17:06,710 --> 00:17:08,670 He was monumental at St. Paul's College. 247 00:17:09,110 --> 00:17:10,610 He never got away from him. 248 00:17:11,170 --> 00:17:16,070 And he had a lot of people in our community, and it gives me the chills that God had allowed 249 00:17:16,070 --> 00:17:23,430 me to step in his presence and be around a man such as Mr. Thompson was and I want to thank 250 00:17:23,430 --> 00:17:27,110 you all for sharing him with the Canada way that thank you so much. 251 00:17:50,460 --> 00:17:51,160 Thank you. 252 00:17:54,120 --> 00:17:54,640 Thank 253 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:04,400 you. 254 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:05,360 Thank you Mr. Christine. 255 00:18:05,620 --> 00:18:06,320 Thank you so much. 256 00:18:06,380 --> 00:18:07,420 God bless you. 257 00:18:31,070 --> 00:18:31,890 Yes, come on. 258 00:18:31,990 --> 00:18:36,230 This time to open the public comment period. 259 00:18:37,010 --> 00:18:43,170 This time I'd like to invite anyone who would like to speak on any subject that is not to be addressed later in this evening. 260 00:18:43,830 --> 00:18:45,190 I have one card. 261 00:18:45,970 --> 00:18:52,710 I ask anyone wishing to speak to step up, state your name, your address, and your voting district. 262 00:18:53,310 --> 00:18:57,090 You'll have three minutes to speak, and I'll let you know when you have 15 seconds left. 263 00:18:58,030 --> 00:19:02,270 And the first one, come up, recognize is Mr. Dave Keller. 264 00:19:02,270 --> 00:19:02,890 I 265 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:11,220 just wanted to say I don't think we should be building more pipelines. 266 00:19:11,860 --> 00:19:16,900 We know the devastating effect fracking has done to our Earth. 267 00:19:16,900 --> 00:19:17,660 Excuse me sir. 268 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:18,540 Name. 269 00:19:19,120 --> 00:19:20,740 Address and voting district. 270 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:22,740 William David Keller. 271 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:24,480 Louisa too. 272 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:26,500 I believe it's on firehouse road. 273 00:19:26,860 --> 00:19:27,460 That Louisa too. 274 00:19:27,700 --> 00:19:28,680 Yes sir. 275 00:19:29,700 --> 00:19:30,020 68. 276 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:30,780 Honey suckling. 277 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:32,840 Thank you. 278 00:19:33,140 --> 00:19:36,940 Anyway, I think fracking is a bad solution to our problem. 279 00:19:36,940 --> 00:19:40,820 We've got clean energy that's well within our grasp. 280 00:19:40,940 --> 00:19:44,240 I'd like to see us pursue that and stop building pipelines. 281 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:45,940 Thank you. 282 00:19:45,940 --> 00:19:46,780 Thank you. 283 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:48,300 That's all the cards I have. 284 00:19:48,460 --> 00:19:52,100 Wouldn't anyone else like to step up and speak? 285 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:54,080 We're all bubbling with anticipation. 286 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:55,480 I see us. 287 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:56,080 Yes, sir. 288 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:57,100 Step right up. 289 00:19:57,740 --> 00:19:58,820 Come on down. 290 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:04,220 My name is Jim Wolf. 291 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:06,660 2034, Bicley Road. 292 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:09,200 That's Patrick Henry 1. 293 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:19,440 And I would like us very much to not have another pipeline for a fossil fuel. 294 00:20:20,360 --> 00:20:27,640 We need to not approve any increase or new use of fossil fuels. 295 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:36,400 It's dangerous not a county in the whole country should be even considering anything to promote more fossil fuel use 296 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:41,560 because of the danger to the environment, which we see everywhere. 297 00:20:43,540 --> 00:20:48,380 Soloring wind, power, or decreasing in cost every day. 298 00:20:49,100 --> 00:20:51,560 And this would be a multi-year project. 299 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:54,840 Meanwhile, other source of energy are getting cheaper. 300 00:20:55,540 --> 00:20:56,640 And it's just not a good plan. 301 00:20:57,440 --> 00:20:58,260 Thank you, sir. 302 00:21:00,060 --> 00:21:02,540 Is there anyone else who would like to step up? 303 00:21:09,180 --> 00:21:10,140 Oh, the cards are there? 304 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:11,360 Yeah, the cards are here. 305 00:21:11,360 --> 00:21:19,100 I'm Dr. Essing Knuckle, that I'm done in Mr. Lewis Stevens, why I live on 25th, I'm a trail 306 00:21:19,100 --> 00:21:27,900 and it's Louis XI, voting precinct. I would like to speak in opposition to this pipeline 307 00:21:27,900 --> 00:21:36,260 that's here. As a senior citizen, I understand that my research that faculty calls a dismount 308 00:21:36,260 --> 00:21:41,440 and the stability in the earth, and it also emits a discharge 309 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:47,160 constant genetic chemicals into the air, and it's an old person living in the 310 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:53,540 moody. So I think we have enough dangers in our area. We have prone to 311 00:21:53,540 --> 00:21:58,480 earthquakes. We have the nuclear plant and to add the gas pipeline across 312 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:03,480 Louisa. I think we'll be sitting target for in a terrorist that wants to be in 313 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:05,620 Thank you. Thank you. 314 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:07,940 We have no more cards. 315 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:10,440 Ms. Persel? 316 00:22:15,590 --> 00:22:19,770 First, I want to thank everyone on the board for expressing your concerns about this project. 317 00:22:20,050 --> 00:22:22,250 Let's check out how many pipe proposed check out how many pipe line? 318 00:22:22,850 --> 00:22:28,310 I want to particularly thank County staff for your diligent efforts to obtain information about this pipe line. 319 00:22:29,650 --> 00:22:31,090 I know you, but sorry. 320 00:22:31,090 --> 00:22:35,650 Tami for sale, 3, 2, 8, 8, 8, well, Dr. Trude in the Patrick Henry District, Patrick Henry 321 00:22:35,650 --> 00:22:42,430 wants. As I was saying, my apologies. I want to thank county staff for your efforts to obtain 322 00:22:42,430 --> 00:22:48,390 information and disseminate it to the public. As you all are aware, many in our community 323 00:22:48,390 --> 00:22:54,990 are very concerned about this project. This natural gas pipeline is proposed by a company 324 00:22:54,990 --> 00:23:01,370 that is eager to avoid regulation and oversight and it could across the heart of our county. 325 00:23:02,870 --> 00:23:08,150 In fact, this pipeline would go as it's proposed, would go about a half mile for my 326 00:23:08,150 --> 00:23:13,150 live and it would cut right through an area that has already seen its farms, its forest, its 327 00:23:13,150 --> 00:23:24,010 waterways, impacted by a project that had inadequate environment or regulation as has been 328 00:23:24,010 --> 00:23:29,730 And as we move forward in this process, I really hope that each of you will remember something 329 00:23:29,730 --> 00:23:35,750 that Mr. Adam said at the last meeting, which is there are seven of you who are chosen 330 00:23:35,750 --> 00:23:41,170 to represent just the citizens of Louisa County. And I hope you will center our interest 331 00:23:41,170 --> 00:23:47,490 in this process. I hope you will listen to us. And I hope you will do all you can to protect 332 00:23:47,490 --> 00:23:53,750 us, to protect our farms, our forests, our creeks, our streams and the land that we all love. 333 00:23:55,890 --> 00:24:01,850 Unfortunately, we are dealing with a company that has not been very forthcoming, so I hope 334 00:24:01,850 --> 00:24:04,110 you will ask the hard questions on our behalf. 335 00:24:04,690 --> 00:24:05,130 Thank you. 336 00:24:05,270 --> 00:24:07,050 Thank you. 337 00:24:08,230 --> 00:24:10,710 Once again, I ask, would anyone else like to speak? 338 00:24:12,730 --> 00:24:18,190 We have three comments which were submitted in writing, and those who submitted these comments 339 00:24:18,190 --> 00:24:21,890 asked that they'd be read into the record, so I would ask the boards allowance of 340 00:24:21,890 --> 00:24:24,530 to read those quickly into the record if you would be so kind. 341 00:24:25,130 --> 00:24:34,410 First one I have is dated 29th of September from Barbara Adams for the Save Coalition, 342 00:24:34,630 --> 00:24:40,530 Dear Mr. Bavvioc, the stop abuse of Virginia Energy, Save Coalition is comprised of 343 00:24:40,530 --> 00:24:45,870 local grassroots in larger state and nation-led organizations and has been directly supporting 344 00:24:45,870 --> 00:24:50,810 directly impacted people and regions and communities from toxic polluting and new fossil 345 00:24:50,810 --> 00:24:54,830 fuel infrastructure projects in the North and Eastern region of the Commonwealth for the past 346 00:24:54,830 --> 00:24:55,570 two years. 347 00:24:55,970 --> 00:24:59,890 We're focused on seeking accurate timely information and providing a platform to share information, 348 00:25:00,390 --> 00:25:04,130 concerns, and intervention opportunities, including to local state and national governments, 349 00:25:04,410 --> 00:25:05,770 agencies, and elected officials. 350 00:25:06,470 --> 00:25:12,290 Our most recent concern, regards the Chikam and the Chikamani Pipeline LLC's CBLLC. 351 00:25:12,490 --> 00:25:17,630 Intentioned to build an 83-mile, 24-inch diameter large pipeline to carry a fractured gas 352 00:25:17,630 --> 00:25:22,150 from the Transco pipeline through LaWisa and four other counties to serve the yet to be built, 353 00:25:22,550 --> 00:25:25,590 Chick-om and a gas fire electric plant in Charles City County. 354 00:25:26,390 --> 00:25:31,770 The recent petition, asking the SEC to wave oversight brings up many red flags about this 355 00:25:31,770 --> 00:25:32,970 company in this project. 356 00:25:33,290 --> 00:25:39,190 Mr. Thomas Hadwin, a former electric and guest utility executive and business slash economic analyst, 357 00:25:39,690 --> 00:25:43,790 is a knowledgeable and well-respected resource and consultant providing detailed expert insight 358 00:25:43,790 --> 00:25:48,930 and perspective to a wide range of recipients, including federal agencies, such as FERC, state 359 00:25:48,930 --> 00:25:52,910 agencies, many elected officials, and local organizations such as SAFE, with his approval, 360 00:25:53,530 --> 00:25:57,810 we are sharing Mr. Headwind's recent perspectives which are attached about check-on many 361 00:25:57,810 --> 00:26:02,550 pipeline LLC and its project with you and for you to share with other supervisors as we all discern 362 00:26:02,550 --> 00:26:07,430 how to best represent work with and on behalf of directly impacted landowners and communities. 363 00:26:07,470 --> 00:26:12,430 You're welcome to contact us with any questions or comments and for Mr. Headwind's contact information 364 00:26:12,430 --> 00:26:14,970 and respectfully barbarians, it's come at one. 365 00:26:15,010 --> 00:26:16,110 Do you agree on where she's from? 366 00:26:16,610 --> 00:26:17,270 I do not. 367 00:26:17,590 --> 00:26:19,090 It does not list an address. 368 00:26:19,290 --> 00:26:21,230 You go for a Drapado for a phone number. 369 00:26:21,430 --> 00:26:21,430 Yes, 370 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:23,560 sir. 371 00:26:24,360 --> 00:26:24,900 Right here. 372 00:26:25,120 --> 00:26:27,020 Second one for Mary Crans, on Mount and Road, 373 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:28,520 545, Baker's Branch. 374 00:26:28,860 --> 00:26:31,240 I would like to thank the Board of Supervisors for their concern 375 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:33,760 about how this pipeline will affect this citizens of Louisiana. 376 00:26:34,020 --> 00:26:37,320 It will not affect not only those in its direct bath, 377 00:26:37,420 --> 00:26:38,740 but it will affect all of us. 378 00:26:38,860 --> 00:26:40,400 Is Louisiana County the dumping ground, 379 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:42,640 Chris Cross, by every transmission in pipeline 380 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:45,460 that they don't want to put in a high-density location. 381 00:26:46,020 --> 00:26:47,580 Louisiana County is my home of 50 years, 382 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:50,760 and I've been watching its pressures from increasing population around us 383 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:51,480 squeeze us. 384 00:26:51,820 --> 00:26:54,660 We need to stand up and say no to harmful things like this. 385 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:56,880 The pipeline does absolutely nothing for the county. 386 00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:00,120 It clear cuts a wide swath of land and makes it unusable. 387 00:27:00,300 --> 00:27:03,040 I know this because our church owns land with a pipeline across it, 388 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:05,880 and I've been dealing with that company about what we can and cannot do. 389 00:27:06,260 --> 00:27:08,520 I can assure you that what this easement stipulates 390 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:10,620 and what you can do are different. 391 00:27:10,620 --> 00:27:12,680 It's not fair, but they can afford the lawyers. 392 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:14,800 This company's treatment of this board is made 393 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:17,980 to abundantly clear that you are no more than a bug on their windshield. 394 00:27:18,380 --> 00:27:20,360 Thank you for telling the State Corporation Commission 395 00:27:20,360 --> 00:27:22,380 that we want them to regulate this. 396 00:27:22,540 --> 00:27:22,880 You're a crant. 397 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:29,200 Lastly, from Ray Ely, President of Historic Green Springs, 398 00:27:29,860 --> 00:27:33,680 addressed to Mr. Irfan Kay Ali, the Managing Member of 399 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:37,160 Jack Omni, Pipeline LLC, and copied to staff. 400 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:41,920 Dear Mr. Alley, we are assuming that your research has brought to your attention the fact that 401 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:45,480 your proposed pipeline for the WISI County traverses two properties which are encumbered 402 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:49,500 with conservation easements that are perpetual and which run with the land and whose purpose 403 00:27:49,500 --> 00:27:56,680 prohibits such uses as this pipeline. The properties in question are tax map parcels 237 and 2314 404 00:27:56,680 --> 00:28:00,960 as found in the WISI County land maps and lied to the north and south of state route 22. 405 00:28:01,820 --> 00:28:06,780 The earlier of these conservation easements dates to 1973 and taken together these properties 406 00:28:06,780 --> 00:28:11,700 serve to protect not only valuable open space for the benefit of the public at large, but 407 00:28:11,700 --> 00:28:16,640 also to protect as buffering properties, a national historic landmark district of national 408 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:18,940 significance to the people of the United States. 409 00:28:19,580 --> 00:28:24,000 You are here by put on notice that any action by your company to enter upon either of these 410 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:29,380 properties for the purpose of preliminary work or actual work to establish a pipeline will 411 00:28:29,380 --> 00:28:33,780 be considered in a legal trespass and legal action will be taken to enjoy such trespass. 412 00:28:33,900 --> 00:28:36,000 Thank you for your prompt attention to this matter, Ray Ely. 413 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:37,920 Thank you, Mr. Chairman, members of the board. 414 00:28:46,940 --> 00:28:49,700 Is there anyone else at the state? 415 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:51,560 Please step right up. 416 00:29:01,010 --> 00:29:03,370 And before you start to make sure that microphone is in front of you, 417 00:29:03,410 --> 00:29:05,290 because when I make sure you're recorded properly. 418 00:29:05,630 --> 00:29:06,510 Thank you very much. 419 00:29:07,090 --> 00:29:08,430 My name is Josh Wavanna. 420 00:29:08,590 --> 00:29:10,710 I'm an Abermore County resident. 421 00:29:11,630 --> 00:29:13,970 And I don't know if loading district is necessary. 422 00:29:14,250 --> 00:29:15,330 Monochelle, I think. 423 00:29:17,150 --> 00:29:23,190 I just sort of come with a cautionary tale of words like this. 424 00:29:23,190 --> 00:29:30,510 sports like yours are faced with a lot of promises from companies like 425 00:29:30,510 --> 00:29:38,350 Chick-omani power LLC, which I guess was just established this year with the SEC, but 426 00:29:39,750 --> 00:29:45,110 for the last few years I've been working as an activist and also as a co-director of 427 00:29:45,110 --> 00:29:50,190 small organization called Art of Vism, Virginia, which works to connect artists and activists 428 00:29:50,190 --> 00:29:59,970 In the fight for environmental justice, in Virginia, primarily we've been fighting the mountain valley pipeline and the now canceled Atlantic coast pipeline and what I can tell you. 429 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:07,700 A from my experiences over the last several years with those two projects are that these companies bring in a lot of promises 430 00:30:07,700 --> 00:30:16,160 of things that they cannot deliver and are not supported by facts. And that the negative effects 431 00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:26,240 of the pipeline will undoubtedly be dumped on county and state governments, as well as front 432 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:31,640 communities having to deal with a project. We don't really know a whole lot about this pipeline, 433 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:40,680 but I don't trust Dominion Energy a $50 billion corporation to build projects like these, 434 00:30:40,780 --> 00:30:49,800 so I certainly would not trust a small LLC that appears to have basically no employees and no 435 00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:59,760 site and no real concrete statement of purpose to build something like this. This power 436 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:05,100 plant is supposed to serve. It's going to be obsolete as soon as it's built and I don't 437 00:31:05,100 --> 00:31:06,340 think it's going to be built. 438 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:12,800 And it's also going to be a stranded asset. It's not in line 439 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:19,280 with what the General Assembly has determined to be a reasonable future for fossil fuel 440 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:20,200 use in Virginia, 441 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:27,160 and in addition to all this, Mr. Ali has quite an interesting history 442 00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:36,540 working for what I see as industry front groups that, among other things, just sort 443 00:31:36,540 --> 00:31:43,980 of prey on developing countries to get them hooked on fossil fuels, and which are powered 444 00:31:43,980 --> 00:31:46,320 by think tanks that are powered by the industry. 445 00:31:46,320 --> 00:32:03,260 So, I would caution the board, and it seems like you are operating with much caution and with your Louisiana County citizens in mind to keep asking questions and ask for some due diligence. 446 00:32:05,180 --> 00:32:06,060 Your 10 seconds. 447 00:32:06,060 --> 00:32:13,400 10 seconds. The Mount Valley Pipeline, on the other side of things powered by one of the largest 448 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:21,620 fracking companies in the country has racked up more than 300 water quality violations in the state 449 00:32:21,620 --> 00:32:31,180 of Virginia and has been sued for $2.15 million by the Attorney General's Office and I know it's 450 00:32:31,180 --> 00:32:38,360 with over-promising, under-delivering, privatizing, the profits, socializing the costs. 451 00:32:39,460 --> 00:32:45,060 And, you know, you don't want to let this to go to the DEQ because you never know what 452 00:32:45,060 --> 00:32:45,840 they're going to do. 453 00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:46,340 Thank you. 454 00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:50,120 I'm over time, but just maybe take it into consideration. 455 00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:51,140 Thank you. 456 00:32:51,220 --> 00:32:53,620 First off, thank you for coming here and thank you for the message. 457 00:32:55,740 --> 00:32:57,080 Any other person? 458 00:32:57,640 --> 00:32:57,840 Yes. 459 00:33:03,990 --> 00:33:09,010 Hi, my name is Sue Frankel Strait. I live in Traveillance, and I just also wanted to echo 460 00:33:09,010 --> 00:33:13,630 what other folks have said. Sorry, we'd like an address and a voting district. 461 00:33:13,810 --> 00:33:19,230 Oh, 1, 6, 5, 6, go, Louisa Road. I believe it's Patrick Henry. I voted at Traveillance 462 00:33:19,230 --> 00:33:26,770 Electrical. Anyway, I just wanted to echo my thanks for the caution that the board has taken 463 00:33:26,770 --> 00:33:34,590 us far. I run a nature camp that abuts the trascot, some of the trascoline that's already there 464 00:33:34,590 --> 00:33:39,030 and have seen what that's done to the wildlife and I think that at this point it's been 465 00:33:39,030 --> 00:33:45,030 already bayed abundantly clear and you folks probably already have heard that we just don't need it. 466 00:33:45,070 --> 00:33:48,710 It seems like there's a lot going on and when we start counting right now anyway with development 467 00:33:48,710 --> 00:33:53,390 between solar panels and Zion's crossroads and the water and this just doesn't seem like anything 468 00:33:53,390 --> 00:33:58,450 that's going to be good for folks here for the land or for the future of the environment. 469 00:33:58,890 --> 00:33:59,810 So thank you for your consideration. 470 00:34:00,270 --> 00:34:00,790 Thank you. 471 00:34:01,690 --> 00:34:02,010 Okay. 472 00:34:02,670 --> 00:34:03,610 I'll make another plea. 473 00:34:03,890 --> 00:34:06,390 Is there any one else out there that would like to speak? 474 00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:09,100 Seeing none. 475 00:34:09,300 --> 00:34:10,800 I want to close the public comment period. 476 00:34:12,700 --> 00:34:12,860 Okay. 477 00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:16,260 It's now on the time of the agenda for the information discussion items. 478 00:34:16,860 --> 00:34:20,780 And the first one is a freedom of choice marker. 479 00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:24,680 I believe we have Mr. Vernon Fleming and possibly some other representatives to come up 480 00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:26,680 and make a presentation for you. 481 00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:30,480 We have a slide to step a leave we do. 482 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:32,800 Freedom of the Chairman, members of the Board. 483 00:34:33,020 --> 00:34:34,380 My name is Vernon Flemning. 484 00:34:34,380 --> 00:34:36,300 I'm on the Board of Directors of the 485 00:34:36,300 --> 00:34:37,600 Louisiana Historical Society. 486 00:34:37,720 --> 00:34:40,480 And I'm here to talk about the Freedom of Choice project, 487 00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:42,480 which will result in a marker, 488 00:34:42,500 --> 00:34:43,740 but that would not be the end point. 489 00:34:44,060 --> 00:34:46,580 What you see is the picture of the Louisiana Historical 490 00:34:46,580 --> 00:34:48,180 House before it was destroyed. 491 00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:51,740 The purpose of this Freedom of Choice project is to capture 492 00:34:51,740 --> 00:34:54,420 the decisions that led to the partial integration of 493 00:34:54,420 --> 00:34:56,360 the University of Michigan Hospital in 1965. 494 00:34:57,700 --> 00:35:02,440 The objective is to educate the community on the events that happened prior to, and during 495 00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:03,760 that eventual period. 496 00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:05,900 I can go to the next slide, please. 497 00:35:07,620 --> 00:35:12,420 Here you see a picture and this was taken early in the school year in Louisiana High School. 498 00:35:13,020 --> 00:35:17,800 You'll see that the students have a lot in common, a lot of smiling faces, as many of us 499 00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:21,400 remember, back in the High School days of being in the hallway and greeting and meeting 500 00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:21,800 faces. 501 00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:25,380 But if you look on the left bank of lockers, 502 00:35:25,700 --> 00:35:26,720 near where the lockers stop, 503 00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:30,020 you see one face that is different from the others. 504 00:35:30,780 --> 00:35:31,960 Our name is a net West, 505 00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:35,560 but this picture kind of represents a sea of faces 506 00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:37,400 and what it may have felt like 507 00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:40,020 to those African Americans who integrate it 508 00:35:40,020 --> 00:35:42,500 with this kind of high school in 1965. 509 00:35:43,240 --> 00:35:45,780 It was a different experience, 510 00:35:46,060 --> 00:35:47,820 both for African Americans and white, 511 00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:50,080 but it's something that is part of history. 512 00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:59,900 The objective is not to rewrite history, but also to shine a light on something that was significant in the county and much need to be known by both students and adults alike. 513 00:36:00,500 --> 00:36:01,140 Next slide please. 514 00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:06,080 This is a picture of what the marker would look like. 515 00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:10,700 I'll kind of read it for you and read for yourselves on August 30th, 1965. 516 00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:16,080 In 11 years after the U.S. Supreme Court declared racial segregation of public schools 517 00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:17,000 unconstitutional. 518 00:36:17,500 --> 00:36:22,120 13 African-American students form enrolled at the All Black A.G. Richigan High School, and All 519 00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:27,720 Black Elementary Schools, due segregated Louisiana County High School, despite state and local 520 00:36:27,720 --> 00:36:32,040 government efforts to deny access to equal education through such measures as massive 521 00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:37,280 resistance and separate but equal these students with the leadership and support of their parents, 522 00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:42,200 community members and the NAACP could graciously sought and obtain the equal education 523 00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:46,900 deserved by all children. All 13 graduated from music and high school with their respective 524 00:36:46,900 --> 00:36:54,060 classes and these students mentioned Vita Scott, Margie Lucas, Margie Lucas, William Mason, 525 00:36:54,580 --> 00:36:59,280 Joseph Morris, Steven Wright, Carolyn McGee, Julia Perkins, Joan Kuala's Conitella, 526 00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:03,080 Earl Burton, yours truly, Walter Scott, and Annette West. 527 00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:08,720 They all graduated, and next slide please, and I'll come back to the cause. 528 00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:11,940 The location of the market is going to be in front of the high school. 529 00:37:11,980 --> 00:37:17,100 You can see by the red star, it's adjacent to how we 22. 530 00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:22,980 We've got verbal approval today from a Mr. Bruce Henning with the Vita, for the location 531 00:37:22,980 --> 00:37:23,680 that was okay. 532 00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:28,840 And that's also approved by Mr. Goodwin and Dr. Straley, and also the high school principal 533 00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:33,760 that they were satisfactory with that location and if this board approved, that's what the 534 00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:39,780 location would be. The cost of the marker is $350 and that is why I'm here today 535 00:37:39,780 --> 00:37:45,120 is to seek your support for the funding. Next slide please. But we did present to the school board, 536 00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:50,120 the school board overwhelmingly supported the placement of the marker. We met with Dr. Strayless 537 00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:56,520 I mentioned and he and Mr. Downey approved the location. We've got approval from VLOT today. 538 00:37:56,520 --> 00:38:04,460 You notice that picture too, for a track of students, one very track of student, one really ugly one day like a ball. 539 00:38:06,380 --> 00:38:10,400 I said one that the top, very nice one, very ugly one day on the bottom right there in the corner. 540 00:38:10,820 --> 00:38:15,560 But Mr. Bala was there and wanted to thank him for helping to support this effort. 541 00:38:16,420 --> 00:38:21,060 And we couldn't let that picture go back, because he was our name right in 1965 also. 542 00:38:21,060 --> 00:38:29,300 But we hope to, if this board's approved and is willing to support with the funding to have 543 00:38:29,300 --> 00:38:34,220 they mark a audit by later this month, it's a 12 to 14 week lead time. 544 00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:38,980 We would like to have it back and install in place in February of 2022. 545 00:38:39,380 --> 00:38:43,760 And that's African-American history month, we think will be a good opportunity for the community 546 00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:47,380 to celebrate this event that happened in 1965. 547 00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:52,460 So I turn it over to questions if anyone has any list of ways. 548 00:38:52,460 --> 00:39:00,500 This marker going to be colored like you had or is it going to be like the ones you see that are gray with black on it. 549 00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:01,660 We're still working with the designer. 550 00:39:03,140 --> 00:39:05,460 So I know most this is not going through the state. 551 00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:08,300 So it's whatever we just have the choice of doing because we're paying. 552 00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:09,060 Okay. 553 00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:11,200 It's not going through the approval of the historical. 554 00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:12,320 It was just a serious question. 555 00:39:12,620 --> 00:39:14,900 I just have a curious mind. 556 00:39:14,900 --> 00:39:21,140 I know so much time has passed, what initiated this particular move at this particular time. 557 00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:28,720 Several things. First, the historic side of the C funding to do research on several African 558 00:39:28,720 --> 00:39:34,360 American history projects. But it was doing a breakfast meeting with my friends who realized 559 00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:41,080 this was a big event and warned it some investigation. But part of the research we interviewed 11 560 00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:46,540 of the 13 students, and also interview a lot of the non-black students, whites, and also 561 00:39:46,540 --> 00:39:47,720 one of the former teachers. 562 00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:51,860 And Mr. Brawler was one of those who agreed to be interviewed, and that was very enlightening, 563 00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:55,280 and that will be part of our research that won a capture as part of the story. 564 00:39:55,500 --> 00:40:01,640 So, the history doesn't end with the marker, is one concrete example of what happened, but 565 00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:05,720 also want to make sure that community has the history captured and to celebrate. 566 00:40:05,940 --> 00:40:09,060 Not to condemn, not to criticize, but just to celebrate. 567 00:40:09,060 --> 00:40:11,360 This was a major step in losing the county. 568 00:40:11,940 --> 00:40:14,180 Well, we've got some good news for you, Mr. Abbott. 569 00:40:14,980 --> 00:40:17,160 Mr. Fleming, thank you for being here. 570 00:40:17,980 --> 00:40:21,460 I appreciate the history lesson. 571 00:40:22,980 --> 00:40:26,680 I think it's kind of appropriate tonight that you're on the agenda. 572 00:40:27,060 --> 00:40:29,160 Mr. Thomson, who was the first African American 573 00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:31,140 elected the Board of Supervisors on the agenda. 574 00:40:32,220 --> 00:40:35,060 I also have you slide over in a minute 575 00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:59,220 Because when not too far, when this first came to the board, you know, there's also an organization here in the county community strong, which works with the community to try to improve relations basically between the police department, the sheriff's department and young African American men. 576 00:40:59,220 --> 00:41:11,480 I reached out to the Sheriff and the Sheriff's Department Foundation and mentioned this request was going to be before the Board of Supervisors. 577 00:41:11,620 --> 00:41:26,220 And if you notice the Sheriff and there's actually several folks here, Jim Braga, who's the President of the Foundation, Jane Williams, who is the Treasurer Detective Love and Major Roberts are here. 578 00:41:26,220 --> 00:41:32,400 But I'd like to ask the sheriff to come up just a minute because I think the sheriff has something he wants to say regarding this. 579 00:41:35,430 --> 00:41:36,070 Thank you. 580 00:41:37,570 --> 00:41:45,610 We talked about this. I was so impressed with this project that commemorates something that happened. 581 00:41:46,010 --> 00:41:48,890 It's very, very important in the history of our county. 582 00:41:48,890 --> 00:41:57,710 One is to get involved with it, it helps with the goals of the community strong and also the goals of the Louisiana County Sheriff's Department. 583 00:41:58,930 --> 00:42:08,310 After we got with the Sheriff's Foundation, what I'd like to announce is that we would like to pay half of the cost for this plaque. 584 00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:22,200 Our representatives up here, we have a check that's made out to the Louisiana County, specifically for that purpose. 585 00:42:23,860 --> 00:42:27,120 And I couldn't think of a better way to spend that money. 586 00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:39,080 Do you accept to take on me on Canada? 587 00:42:41,240 --> 00:42:42,580 It's the Chairman's coming up. 588 00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:44,380 I'll let you go. 589 00:42:44,740 --> 00:42:52,820 But again, I just wanted to say on behalf of the Sheriff's Department, on behalf of the Sheriff's Foundation, 590 00:42:52,820 --> 00:43:02,400 And the reason that community strong was reformed and reinvigorated a little over a year ago 591 00:43:03,260 --> 00:43:08,960 was unfortunately the catalyst was George Floyd's murder, but the sheriff's department 592 00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:15,880 and members of the community have been extraordinarily active in trying to make Louise a 593 00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:16,400 better place. 594 00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:18,940 Louise is a good place, but to make Louise a better place. 595 00:43:18,940 --> 00:43:24,840 And I just, again, want to give you all kudos, I think the sheriff interrupted me when I 596 00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:26,780 made the phone call to him, he said, we're in. 597 00:43:26,940 --> 00:43:27,700 We're in. 598 00:43:29,020 --> 00:43:33,500 So, again, I want to publicly thank the sheriff, the sheriff's department, the sheriff's 599 00:43:33,500 --> 00:43:33,660 foundation. 600 00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:34,840 Thank you. 601 00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:36,260 Now we'll take the check. 602 00:43:36,380 --> 00:43:37,140 Give Bob the check. 603 00:43:37,140 --> 00:43:38,320 to hand 604 00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:46,720 it over to this quick and very quickly. So I'm tempted to spend it on anything else. 605 00:43:50,090 --> 00:43:52,590 You've written no yet. We have a side that happened. 606 00:43:55,590 --> 00:43:56,870 The checks in the mail. 607 00:43:58,690 --> 00:43:59,390 We've got it tonight. 608 00:44:00,710 --> 00:44:02,910 I think they want to picture Mr. Chairman. 609 00:44:02,910 --> 00:44:03,390 Mr. Chairman. 610 00:44:03,810 --> 00:44:04,450 Everybody come up here. 611 00:44:04,710 --> 00:44:07,410 Go on, I'd like to take a closer look. 612 00:44:07,950 --> 00:44:08,150 Mr. Chairman. 613 00:44:10,900 --> 00:44:11,680 Yes, sir. 614 00:44:19,910 --> 00:44:20,290 Mr. 615 00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:40,240 Chairman. 616 00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:50,500 I'd be remissed, I'd thank the Sheriff's Department for being participants in this and Mr. Vernon. 617 00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:52,920 I've heard that but good things for me for Tom and Borrow. 618 00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:57,600 And you might be a really good guy, Tom Borrow, been saying you'll pray that I ha. 619 00:44:59,000 --> 00:44:59,980 But I do. 620 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:04,900 They have a member of my district as one of the first, Ms. Jones calls. 621 00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:12,000 And I might, she might get me, because I thought I was a system to about, I think I was a reminder, 622 00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:20,700 but Jones was one of the first students there. And she's a sense, move back from Atlanta to Louisiana. 623 00:45:21,740 --> 00:45:25,240 And so, thank you all for working hard. 624 00:45:27,900 --> 00:45:33,440 And due to his honor of being involved in this, and we haven't heard the interview yet, 625 00:45:33,460 --> 00:45:35,220 but I think Mr. Barlow has a comment. 626 00:45:39,210 --> 00:45:45,230 I'm a violent contact with me about this, but we've also been to his house with the historical 627 00:45:46,070 --> 00:45:55,290 society, just the group that was there in 65, and when Barlow presented me with this, 628 00:45:55,290 --> 00:46:02,770 thought, you know, it's a fantastic idea. So we've trying to get it on a genus, so I called 629 00:46:02,770 --> 00:46:12,070 everybody and that's when Mr. Adams got in touch with Sheriff Low and we've trying to figure 630 00:46:12,070 --> 00:46:17,070 how to fund this and he took a big bite out of it immediately. 631 00:46:19,430 --> 00:46:21,690 I think it's a great thing to 632 00:46:21,690 --> 00:46:26,710 put it in front of the school like you done. The school board has already supported it. 633 00:46:28,350 --> 00:46:36,750 So, I would make a motion that we supported as well and pick up the other half, 634 00:46:37,150 --> 00:46:47,030 which actually would be 15-55, I believe, the cost of the monument or black was 35-55. 635 00:46:47,030 --> 00:46:52,970 Such a how emotional side there. We have motion in a second in discussion on favor 636 00:46:52,970 --> 00:47:00,070 And he pose motion carries. I think it does bear some significance though because this is a historical moment 637 00:47:00,070 --> 00:47:03,430 In Mr. Barlow's life. He actually asked for money 638 00:47:12,740 --> 00:47:13,940 Also instruct 639 00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:18,900 Must die be hard to make clear know to that 640 00:47:18,900 --> 00:47:21,420 We would absolutely be the last time 641 00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:28,200 Mr. Chairman, just for the record, Mr. Bartol, I'd like to point out when you were 642 00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:29,500 in the eighth grade, I was three. 643 00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:34,260 But look how well I made you. 644 00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:36,800 Fair point, fair point. 645 00:47:38,100 --> 00:47:40,880 Okay, that was really, really. 646 00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:42,600 There was one. 647 00:47:43,860 --> 00:47:44,440 That's what it was. 648 00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:51,140 Our next presentation is on, who's the kind of water authority, quarterly update with our 649 00:47:51,140 --> 00:47:54,220 It's a very prestigious, this spam moment. 650 00:47:56,970 --> 00:47:58,850 Any water authority fully supports the placker. 651 00:47:59,070 --> 00:48:02,190 We need to make sure you market, or we have a water line that runs through there. 652 00:48:02,610 --> 00:48:06,290 I'm going to make sure you don't hit that when you put that in. 653 00:48:07,470 --> 00:48:08,350 Good evening, Chairman Babby. 654 00:48:08,470 --> 00:48:09,310 I can members of the board. 655 00:48:09,470 --> 00:48:13,830 Thank you for the opportunity to provide you with update on the authorities activities over the past quarter. 656 00:48:14,270 --> 00:48:15,190 I'm going to start with COVID. 657 00:48:15,230 --> 00:48:16,550 I've been hacking and coughing. 658 00:48:16,670 --> 00:48:17,570 I am COVID-free. 659 00:48:17,590 --> 00:48:18,370 I have bronchitis. 660 00:48:18,570 --> 00:48:19,530 I'm trying to recover from. 661 00:48:20,270 --> 00:48:21,670 But that's what's going on here. 662 00:48:22,330 --> 00:48:28,570 We are currently updating our policies to incorporate the newest standards coming into effect on October 8. 663 00:48:29,270 --> 00:48:37,450 We will be applying for COVID relief to help residents with past due utility bills and our current past due balance. 664 00:48:37,670 --> 00:48:40,930 When I was here in June and gave you the update, it was about $4,000. 665 00:48:41,290 --> 00:48:45,070 We are over 17,000 now in the Rears for customers. 666 00:48:45,970 --> 00:48:55,150 Cutoffs are now permitted as of the end of August and we have been implementing those when we can and working with folks as often as we can. 667 00:48:55,730 --> 00:49:11,690 In the office, we lost a 14 year employee on August 14th Margaret Clark suddenly passed away. She was our accounting clerk. Amy Dunovan has been promoted to that position and Michelle coffee is now fully in charge of the front desk as our officer at first impressions. 668 00:49:12,810 --> 00:49:18,330 Sun's Tribe, the solar company that is installing solar at the schools was contacted to 669 00:49:18,330 --> 00:49:22,550 do an analysis to see if they could offer the authority any cost savings at our facilities. 670 00:49:24,070 --> 00:49:29,650 And they did a thorough review with their engineering team, but unfortunately they said that 671 00:49:29,650 --> 00:49:33,010 this time they are not able to offer us any savings on electricity. 672 00:49:33,850 --> 00:49:37,730 The auditors have completed their on-site work, so I'm sure there will be some questions 673 00:49:37,730 --> 00:49:40,030 along the way, but that should be finalizing soon. 674 00:49:40,030 --> 00:49:48,650 We're currently evaluating the liability created to the authority by offering customers automatic draft payments. 675 00:49:50,390 --> 00:49:57,070 We have to be able to do this in a way that we conform to the red flag rules that we're evaluating that with the county attorneys office currently. 676 00:49:58,370 --> 00:50:03,470 We continue to work with VDOT on the realignment at Chuck level road and school bus road. 677 00:50:04,630 --> 00:50:10,070 For the Northeast Creek Water Treatment Plant, we are down to one structure being demolished 678 00:50:10,070 --> 00:50:14,550 and removed as part of the security assessment that was completed there. 679 00:50:15,030 --> 00:50:18,730 And we're going to do that when we replace a valve that is broken at the plant. 680 00:50:19,110 --> 00:50:24,030 So we're hopefully get that done here this fall, speaking a fall, the fall protection 681 00:50:24,030 --> 00:50:26,750 for OSHA requirements is being addressed. 682 00:50:26,970 --> 00:50:31,090 We have one deck that we need to finalize, but lumber prices are through the roofs 683 00:50:31,090 --> 00:50:32,910 we're waiting for that to stabilize somewhat. 684 00:50:34,310 --> 00:50:36,890 The American Water Infrastructure Act, 685 00:50:37,210 --> 00:50:40,590 a Wheel of Regulations, I reported to you last time 686 00:50:40,590 --> 00:50:43,610 that the risk and resiliency plan had been completed 687 00:50:43,610 --> 00:50:46,930 and we finalized and it's under review now. 688 00:50:46,950 --> 00:50:50,130 The emergency response plan, once that's completed, 689 00:50:50,290 --> 00:50:52,410 we'll have met the regulations for that, 690 00:50:52,410 --> 00:50:54,970 but that will be ongoing and have to be updated every five years 691 00:50:54,970 --> 00:50:56,830 and we have to conduct tabletop exercises 692 00:50:57,590 --> 00:51:00,490 to make sure staffs skills are up to date 693 00:51:00,490 --> 00:51:03,070 to handle anything that would come our way. 694 00:51:03,950 --> 00:51:09,230 The North East Creek Water Treatment Plant, if you recall, the county and the CRP budget 695 00:51:09,230 --> 00:51:16,610 request provide a $50,000 to meet that, to help us meet the optimization rules for the Virginia 696 00:51:16,610 --> 00:51:17,430 Department of Health. 697 00:51:18,170 --> 00:51:24,230 Due to increased cost of steel, the health departments requirement for engineering services 698 00:51:24,230 --> 00:51:29,970 as well as the increased cost for installation, that project is running probably about $200,000 699 00:51:29,970 --> 00:51:35,830 over what we anticipated, funding options are being explored through the Virginia Department of Health, 700 00:51:35,970 --> 00:51:41,490 or we may make an additional funding request during the CIP budget process. At the Louise 701 00:51:41,490 --> 00:51:47,410 Regional Plan, again working on file protection and stuff for the OSHA regulation. In the summer, 702 00:51:48,150 --> 00:51:55,450 July 14th, from July 14th to August 28th, we sustained three lightning strikes. We caused damage 703 00:51:55,450 --> 00:51:58,550 to the skater, modem, the skater system, computers, 704 00:51:58,830 --> 00:52:01,490 and the con-cast modem, and computer switches. 705 00:52:03,190 --> 00:52:05,330 We're actively trying to get that all put back together. 706 00:52:05,910 --> 00:52:07,390 At the Zion wastewater plant again, 707 00:52:07,390 --> 00:52:09,410 fall protection, and we're nearing completion 708 00:52:09,410 --> 00:52:12,890 of our review of local limits that's done every five years. 709 00:52:13,490 --> 00:52:15,630 In on August 13th, we had a lightning strike 710 00:52:15,630 --> 00:52:17,290 that caused damage to two flow meters, 711 00:52:17,430 --> 00:52:20,710 two chemical feed pumps, and two chemical feed controlers. 712 00:52:22,050 --> 00:52:24,450 At the Zion wells, at the end of September, 713 00:52:24,450 --> 00:52:29,270 of the static world levels are down approximately eight tens of a foot from the end of August 714 00:52:29,270 --> 00:52:36,170 2021 from September 2020 to September 2021, we're down about four and a half feet. 715 00:52:36,330 --> 00:52:41,690 As of October 3rd for Northern Virginia, Piedmont region, the Department of Environmental 716 00:52:41,690 --> 00:52:47,150 Quality Monitor indicates an emergency situation for precipitation in our area and normal 717 00:52:47,150 --> 00:52:50,670 conditions exist for groundwater levels, reservoir levels and stream flows. 718 00:52:50,830 --> 00:52:53,890 I don't know how that happens, but that's what the site said today. 719 00:52:54,730 --> 00:53:00,590 We're working on a trial to see if a filtering system and a chemical addition called Aquamag 720 00:53:00,590 --> 00:53:05,330 could be added to help with some iron in one of our wells, this is a design crossword 721 00:53:05,330 --> 00:53:11,090 well number two. They don't exceed the MCL level, but it does cause some ecstatic problems. 722 00:53:11,950 --> 00:53:16,450 On August 13, we sustained a lightning strike at Greensprings well number three. They cause 723 00:53:16,450 --> 00:53:21,350 damage to the pump motor and the skaters system there. That's all been put back together. 724 00:53:22,510 --> 00:53:31,870 Earlier today, we had a legislative priorities list, and I was not here on the 20th 725 00:53:31,870 --> 00:53:39,370 when that list was formulated unfortunately, but we are looking at several regulations and 726 00:53:39,370 --> 00:53:40,330 impacting utilities. 727 00:53:41,050 --> 00:53:50,730 We have PFAS, PFO of PF, it's a whole line of chemicals that are basically Scotch 728 00:53:50,730 --> 00:54:00,970 in fabrics and carpets that are now showing up in water supplies that utilities will be required to remove instead of outlawing the chemical. 729 00:54:02,130 --> 00:54:11,270 We're looking at safe yield issues procurement, SEC rule updates, pre-treatment of medical facilities when they dump hazardous waste down sinks and drains. 730 00:54:11,270 --> 00:54:22,230 We had phase three watershed implementation plan that was approved by the Governor and we are expecting before he leaves office phase four, so which will be a more regulation. 731 00:54:24,250 --> 00:54:34,990 Remondering reassignment of nitrogen and phosphorus loading limits, so what that would look like is they would do remove some limits from us and reassign those two other localities like Norman Virginia. 732 00:54:34,990 --> 00:54:39,530 timing or economic development growth, they have already started taking industry, 733 00:54:40,330 --> 00:54:45,350 phosphorus and nitrogen limits away that like the businesses have shut down. 734 00:54:45,410 --> 00:54:46,130 Did you repeat that? 735 00:54:46,770 --> 00:54:50,890 They're looking at re-assigning nitrogen and phosphorus loading limits. 736 00:54:50,910 --> 00:54:52,030 Who is? 737 00:54:52,990 --> 00:54:53,890 Did you do? 738 00:54:54,750 --> 00:54:54,990 How? 739 00:54:55,390 --> 00:54:56,170 We've already got ours. 740 00:54:56,290 --> 00:54:56,650 How do we work? 741 00:54:56,650 --> 00:54:57,530 We already got ours, right. 742 00:54:57,630 --> 00:55:00,630 But if you're not using them, they want to re-assign them. 743 00:55:00,690 --> 00:55:01,690 Then you can't ever expand. 744 00:55:02,210 --> 00:55:03,210 That's exactly right. 745 00:55:03,290 --> 00:55:03,730 Just ridiculous. 746 00:55:04,370 --> 00:55:11,870 that's exactly right. We're fighting that tooth and nail, so I'll let you know how that plays out. 747 00:55:12,290 --> 00:55:13,710 You need support, come to us. 748 00:55:13,770 --> 00:55:14,610 Yes, please. 749 00:55:14,790 --> 00:55:16,130 She's telling you she's supported right now. 750 00:55:17,690 --> 00:55:19,750 We're constantly working on OSHA guidelines. 751 00:55:20,190 --> 00:55:23,010 There are new regulations coming regarding tank painting. 752 00:55:25,550 --> 00:55:28,370 The new regulations for COVID-19, 753 00:55:28,370 --> 00:55:29,670 and dam safety regulations. 754 00:55:30,410 --> 00:55:32,150 The new lead and copper rules are coming out. 755 00:55:32,150 --> 00:55:35,030 This is another one I'm asking for your help on. 756 00:55:35,470 --> 00:55:36,850 Lead and copper service lines. 757 00:55:37,010 --> 00:55:39,870 They're requiring utilities to replace them. 758 00:55:40,270 --> 00:55:41,450 We didn't install them. 759 00:55:41,650 --> 00:55:42,990 We don't know where they are. 760 00:55:43,350 --> 00:55:45,930 And they're telling us now that we have to go back and replace. 761 00:55:46,210 --> 00:55:48,330 Any lead and copper service lines in order to replace them. 762 00:55:48,330 --> 00:55:49,710 Most of you don't know where they are. 763 00:55:49,750 --> 00:55:50,890 How are you supposed to find them? 764 00:55:51,050 --> 00:55:52,790 We have to find them. 765 00:55:52,990 --> 00:55:54,450 How do you know they exist? 766 00:55:54,950 --> 00:55:55,270 We don't. 767 00:55:55,470 --> 00:55:56,190 We have to inventory. 768 00:55:56,190 --> 00:56:00,970 the search. So if I have copper and lead pipes in my house, you have to fix it? 769 00:56:01,230 --> 00:56:04,370 I'm not just the service line to the house. Just the service line. It's like, where is 770 00:56:04,370 --> 00:56:08,290 well, though? Is that going to transferance is considered the meter? 771 00:56:08,930 --> 00:56:14,210 So from the meter back to the plant. Right. Not from the meter to the house. 772 00:56:14,470 --> 00:56:18,470 From the meter back to the plant. No, from the meter to the house. 773 00:56:18,550 --> 00:56:25,430 No, come on. No, personal service lines, yes. So we're going to start trying to do some inventory 774 00:56:25,430 --> 00:56:27,930 and see what we've got. It wouldn't be anything 775 00:56:27,930 --> 00:56:29,410 design. It would only be here. 776 00:56:29,610 --> 00:56:31,410 Can I? Can I? I'm not going to make sure I 777 00:56:31,410 --> 00:56:33,110 just. Yeah. No, I shouldn't. 778 00:56:35,490 --> 00:56:40,290 So the lines that the utility is responsible for finding 779 00:56:40,290 --> 00:56:43,990 and replacing are from the meter to the house. Yes, sir. 780 00:56:45,970 --> 00:56:48,790 Yes, sir. Thank you. That makes no sense whatsoever. 781 00:56:49,070 --> 00:56:52,610 That's why we didn't install them. We didn't. We had nothing to do. 782 00:56:52,690 --> 00:56:54,530 We don't inspect them. We. 783 00:56:54,530 --> 00:56:58,870 Well, you give me 20 minutes from our algorithm. Look for my bringer report back. We don't have any in the county. 784 00:56:59,010 --> 00:57:03,570 That's a great idea. I would love to say that. But we have to do our diligence with it. 785 00:57:03,570 --> 00:57:05,850 I guess that's why the title personal. 786 00:57:06,990 --> 00:57:10,030 And that. So, so the utility is responsible. 787 00:57:11,170 --> 00:57:12,290 So, who installed? 788 00:57:12,590 --> 00:57:14,370 May I think I already know the answer this? 789 00:57:14,730 --> 00:57:20,410 But who installed that piping from the meter to the house to begin with? 790 00:57:20,410 --> 00:57:25,890 the homeowner or a plumber or an exactly so if you find it from the 791 00:57:25,890 --> 00:57:31,110 meter to the house and it has to be replaced who bears to cost a 792 00:57:31,110 --> 00:57:38,310 replacement that's that's absolutely ridiculous we do who dreamed up 793 00:57:38,310 --> 00:57:40,170 that one 794 00:57:42,190 --> 00:57:48,370 when was that not that it's it's coming so we need to fight it 795 00:57:48,370 --> 00:57:53,490 That's how the regulation is if it's currently written is that it's trying to be moved forward. 796 00:57:55,310 --> 00:57:56,350 There's more. 797 00:57:56,870 --> 00:57:58,270 Wait, there's more. 798 00:57:58,650 --> 00:57:59,470 Wait, there's more. 799 00:57:59,870 --> 00:58:03,030 May I ask, is it a public comment period? 800 00:58:03,150 --> 00:58:03,890 Is that where it is? 801 00:58:03,970 --> 00:58:08,650 It's not there yet, but when it is, I will let you all know when we need to comment. 802 00:58:10,170 --> 00:58:15,950 The ammonia nitrogen regulation I reported to you last time, we were expecting a 50% or 50% reduction. 803 00:58:15,950 --> 00:58:20,970 they're now looking at an 85% reduction. So at the Louisiana Regional Plant, just as an example, 804 00:58:21,170 --> 00:58:27,410 we have a 1 milligram per liter limit. We will have a 0.15 milligram per liter limit. 805 00:58:27,830 --> 00:58:29,950 For, on what? The nitrogen. 806 00:58:30,830 --> 00:58:38,650 A million nitrogen, fresh water, a million nitrogen. So it will, I was trying to figure out ways 807 00:58:38,650 --> 00:58:44,170 to get around making a significant, yet another significant upgrade at the Louisiana Regional Plant, 808 00:58:44,170 --> 00:58:47,090 but it's going to happen, there's no way around it. 809 00:58:47,170 --> 00:58:52,450 We can't meet a point one, five without a significant upgrade. 810 00:58:52,750 --> 00:58:53,950 And then there's one more. 811 00:58:54,610 --> 00:58:58,790 Last year, House Joint Resolution 538 was passed. 812 00:58:59,190 --> 00:59:02,950 And basically, it is saying that water is a human right. 813 00:59:03,870 --> 00:59:08,810 I think we're on a slippery slope to say that it is our job to provide water to meet 814 00:59:08,810 --> 00:59:12,350 all the regulation to everybody at no cost. 815 00:59:12,350 --> 00:59:14,550 And I don't know how we do that. 816 00:59:15,410 --> 00:59:18,750 So that's another one that we are very actively monitoring. 817 00:59:20,710 --> 00:59:22,310 And then I always try to- 818 00:59:22,310 --> 00:59:23,870 I always try to- 819 00:59:23,870 --> 00:59:25,070 I always try to- 820 00:59:25,070 --> 00:59:25,410 I always try to- 821 00:59:25,410 --> 00:59:29,530 I always try to keep my thumb on legislative issues. 822 00:59:29,530 --> 00:59:31,690 I'm constantly in contact with them. 823 00:59:31,910 --> 00:59:37,830 I've recently been asked to serve on a DQ regulatory advisory panel. 824 00:59:37,830 --> 00:59:44,990 for it's specifically for House Bill 582, which is regarding water supply planning. 825 00:59:46,730 --> 00:59:51,050 What came out of our first meeting is that all of the water supply planning that we've 826 00:59:51,050 --> 00:59:56,370 done, the report we've done, we considered a regional plan because we included mineral 827 00:59:56,370 --> 00:59:59,970 and Louisa, basically they want to just try to 828 01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:11,220 Throw that all away and start over. And the recommendation on the first meeting was, no, we've done this work. Let's build on this, but let's not reinvent the wheel and start over. 829 01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:23,740 We were ostracized pretty heavily by DEQ, basically telling us that we were trying to do status quo, which is absolutely not true. 830 01:00:23,740 --> 01:00:29,800 I don't think you start over though after 10, 15 years of water supply planning in your community. 831 01:00:30,940 --> 01:00:33,280 So that's all I have if you have any questions. 832 01:00:36,220 --> 01:00:43,080 I'm still trying to understand this nutrient quantities or nutrient credits that we have. 833 01:00:44,340 --> 01:00:53,600 It would appear that this reallocation is a potential grab power grab of some stuff that 834 01:00:53,600 --> 01:00:57,440 maybe we're not using them, maybe they want to reallocate to some like northern Virginia 835 01:00:57,440 --> 01:00:58,480 and some of the bigger cities. 836 01:00:58,880 --> 01:01:02,080 Well, it's what it feels a lot like, does it feel like that to you? 837 01:01:02,220 --> 01:01:02,580 Absolutely. 838 01:01:02,860 --> 01:01:03,380 It feels like that. 839 01:01:03,380 --> 01:01:04,760 We've already got ours. 840 01:01:05,020 --> 01:01:06,280 We have a land map. 841 01:01:06,660 --> 01:01:07,560 I don't know. 842 01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:09,400 Wow. 843 01:01:10,100 --> 01:01:26,400 I can tell you that I had a meeting with the Undersecretary of Natural Resources and she basically said that our job as a utility was to go to Lose and Home Depot and anybody that sold fertilizer until then they shouldn't sell it. 844 01:01:26,920 --> 01:01:28,020 That's not my role. 845 01:01:28,660 --> 01:01:30,260 We should tell people that they shouldn't. 846 01:01:30,520 --> 01:01:31,720 She pointed by the current governor. 847 01:01:32,840 --> 01:01:35,560 Yes, the Undersecretary for Natural Resources, I believe her. 848 01:01:35,900 --> 01:01:46,480 was a lady. And that they talked about the reallocation of those, and I said, what about communities 849 01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:52,160 and I gave ours as an example that we haven't seen our fully economic development potential yet. 850 01:01:52,540 --> 01:01:58,740 We're just on the cusp of that. Why would you do that? Well, we can't squeeze any more blood out of the 851 01:01:58,740 --> 01:02:04,640 turn-up from Northern Virginia Rappahannic, the Potomac Rappahannic River Basin. So we're going to take 852 01:02:04,640 --> 01:02:07,600 that the James River Water River Basin, York River, 853 01:02:07,600 --> 01:02:10,060 which is what we are in, are doing such a good job 854 01:02:10,060 --> 01:02:12,380 that we think it's time that we reallocate 855 01:02:12,380 --> 01:02:13,760 and give them more credits. 856 01:02:17,360 --> 01:02:20,480 Mr. Chairman, just to, that was my question to 857 01:02:20,480 --> 01:02:22,140 about the nutrient reallocation. 858 01:02:23,180 --> 01:02:24,460 And Pam, I just wanted to clarify, 859 01:02:24,660 --> 01:02:26,560 that's also something that's not past, 860 01:02:26,780 --> 01:02:27,940 it's something that's proposed. 861 01:02:28,200 --> 01:02:29,540 It's proposed, yes. 862 01:02:29,800 --> 01:02:33,260 It's being talked about and I was really glad 863 01:02:33,260 --> 01:02:39,800 when Senator Reeve said that you in the overreach that we are seeing in some areas 864 01:02:39,800 --> 01:02:44,300 and I certainly see that in some of the proposed regulation and things that are coming 865 01:02:44,300 --> 01:02:44,840 down the pipe. 866 01:02:45,120 --> 01:02:50,980 Did there was there any discussion that you're privy to about the relation between counties 867 01:02:50,980 --> 01:02:55,940 and their 2030 or 40-year comprehensive plans as far as their master plan grows in relation 868 01:02:55,940 --> 01:02:57,760 because why have one? 869 01:02:58,760 --> 01:03:03,140 You can't say on the one hand we want you to plan for 40 years and then you do that 870 01:03:03,140 --> 01:03:08,400 planning and then it's automatically no good because you have no, you tell 871 01:03:08,400 --> 01:03:12,100 you and the pun intended you tell your tools to implement that plan because 872 01:03:12,100 --> 01:03:16,100 you're taking all that away. Right. Right. Okay. 873 01:03:16,100 --> 01:03:22,000 Mr. Chair. Mr. Robert. I'm guessing that this is not just a state 874 01:03:22,000 --> 01:03:27,420 regulation that probably this is coming down. It may just may right now be 875 01:03:27,420 --> 01:03:32,560 state, but my guess is that this is coming down from the federal government as well. 876 01:03:32,960 --> 01:03:40,420 Well, Virginia decided when it came to nitrogen and phosphorus loading allocations to give 877 01:03:40,420 --> 01:03:42,160 them all out in the beginning. 878 01:03:43,220 --> 01:03:48,140 And now they're seeing that the Rappahannic River Basin and the Potomac River Basin folks 879 01:03:48,140 --> 01:03:51,620 can't meet those regulations, their limits, their loading limits. 880 01:03:51,620 --> 01:03:59,440 So they want to take away somebody who's not using all of ours, and quite frankly we're using a very small amount of ours. 881 01:04:00,320 --> 01:04:03,000 But his question is, he thinks it's federal, it's not for this. 882 01:04:03,140 --> 01:04:05,000 No, this is all about this Chesapeake Bay. 883 01:04:05,800 --> 01:04:15,000 What I'm saying is the, a lot of credits that the state is not to state federal government is trying to bring down. 884 01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:21,640 So to get that in other words, Virginia, I think it's trying to meet a federal regulation 885 01:04:21,640 --> 01:04:23,920 because they're shifting it from one to the other. 886 01:04:24,120 --> 01:04:27,600 Well, the states were, it was left up to the states to decide how they wanted to allocate 887 01:04:27,600 --> 01:04:33,580 them. So they were allocating them. Some states have a bank of credits that they're holding 888 01:04:33,580 --> 01:04:37,680 on to to reallocate at a later time, but Virginia didn't do that. 889 01:04:39,100 --> 01:04:44,880 So now I want to reallocate it to the metropolitan areas where all of the, you know, 890 01:04:45,000 --> 01:04:46,900 All of the economic development is taking place. 891 01:04:46,900 --> 01:04:47,700 Oh, that's taking place. 892 01:04:47,840 --> 01:04:49,800 I mean, I have a couple of questions. 893 01:04:50,260 --> 01:04:54,340 I forgot them all because when Mr. Persell said, I have a question. 894 01:04:54,640 --> 01:04:56,480 I sure need my note. That's my question. 895 01:04:57,380 --> 01:05:00,000 I mean, that is... 896 01:05:00,720 --> 01:05:03,080 I mean, a future economic development in this county. 897 01:05:03,360 --> 01:05:04,360 That would... 898 01:05:04,360 --> 01:05:04,940 We're done. 899 01:05:06,340 --> 01:05:08,040 We'll be all we're going to be. 900 01:05:08,180 --> 01:05:09,900 Yeah, I mean, I just shut the door. 901 01:05:10,540 --> 01:05:13,000 I mean, Mr. Chairman, I was just that... 902 01:05:13,640 --> 01:05:24,360 We add this to our legislative agenda in hurry and, you know, I mean, that's, that's a really big deal. 903 01:05:26,750 --> 01:05:35,230 Pam, I want to speak to all the board, but we're not going to shoot the messenger, but of all the presentations you give this is probably the most pessimistic. 904 01:05:37,290 --> 01:05:40,450 But we know we need to hear it. 905 01:05:40,450 --> 01:05:47,230 I try to be positive, if the regulation is just, it's overwhelming, I will be honest with 906 01:05:47,230 --> 01:05:52,470 you, and trying to attract people to this business because of the regulation, it's getting 907 01:05:52,470 --> 01:05:58,030 harder and harder and harder and harder, so what do you want us to have to face this every 908 01:05:58,030 --> 01:05:58,690 day? 909 01:05:58,790 --> 01:05:59,590 It's like the new. 910 01:06:00,070 --> 01:06:02,930 I have my eye on retirement all the time. 911 01:06:04,090 --> 01:06:04,870 Don't even think that. 912 01:06:04,870 --> 01:06:08,790 Thank you for being so thorough, though, and looking at these legislative things, because it 913 01:06:08,790 --> 01:06:11,910 is above and beyond what you do, as far as running on a daily basis. 914 01:06:12,010 --> 01:06:13,170 Thank you for that. 915 01:06:13,530 --> 01:06:19,430 I serve as the President of Virginia rural water, and in a former life, I must have 916 01:06:19,430 --> 01:06:20,050 been a lobbyist. 917 01:06:20,150 --> 01:06:24,150 I'm very passionate about rural America and us getting a fair shake. 918 01:06:24,310 --> 01:06:28,130 I'm not saying that we should get more, but we should absolutely get a fair shake in all 919 01:06:28,130 --> 01:06:28,470 of this. 920 01:06:28,950 --> 01:06:34,650 And when you go in to Washington and you talk to the Congressman and senators, and 921 01:06:34,650 --> 01:06:38,070 you have a legislative aid that tells you, we don't need rural America. 922 01:06:38,070 --> 01:06:41,590 We can grow all the food we need within the belt way. 923 01:06:41,910 --> 01:06:45,630 I said, honey, give that a try and let me know when you need some food. 924 01:06:46,270 --> 01:06:49,670 So, that is the mindset though. 925 01:06:49,910 --> 01:06:52,870 They do not need us, we're, you know. 926 01:06:54,640 --> 01:06:55,940 One of our homotons or something. 927 01:06:55,940 --> 01:06:58,640 I wonder how much it's actually going to look at the other way. 928 01:06:59,960 --> 01:07:00,540 Thank you, Pam. 929 01:07:00,660 --> 01:07:02,300 And I told, aren't we all Americans? 930 01:07:02,800 --> 01:07:02,920 Yeah. 931 01:07:03,420 --> 01:07:03,740 I'm kidding. 932 01:07:04,480 --> 01:07:05,880 Anybody have more questions? 933 01:07:06,540 --> 01:07:07,540 Thank you very much, Pam. 934 01:07:09,540 --> 01:07:14,400 And, uh, one of the, uh, most, uh, look forward to presentations. 935 01:07:14,700 --> 01:07:16,600 The update on the pipeline. 936 01:07:17,140 --> 01:07:21,240 Mr. Chairman, we had representatives, uh, from the Czechahomni pipeline who agreed to 937 01:07:21,240 --> 01:07:22,460 be here this, this evening. 938 01:07:22,460 --> 01:07:27,280 They provided a presentation to 1130 this morning so we got that loaded in, uh, and happy 939 01:07:27,280 --> 01:07:28,180 to bring that up for you. 940 01:07:28,260 --> 01:07:29,440 And you can walk us through it. 941 01:07:30,060 --> 01:07:35,120 So, uh, yeah, good afternoon, uh, Mr. Chairman and the board members, my name is, uh, Chuck 942 01:07:35,120 --> 01:07:39,480 acres unemployed by encompassed energy services, and our 943 01:07:39,480 --> 01:07:40,900 client is a chicken homey pipeline. 944 01:07:42,140 --> 01:07:45,620 What encompasses helping the client with is the 945 01:07:45,620 --> 01:07:49,360 initial survey notices to the affected landowners and 946 01:07:49,360 --> 01:07:51,780 LaWisa County and Hanover County. 947 01:07:53,040 --> 01:07:55,140 What they've given me is a couple of slides that's to share 948 01:07:55,140 --> 01:07:59,040 with the board and the citizens of the county. 949 01:07:59,800 --> 01:08:03,020 I could go through them one at a time, but it's free. 950 01:08:04,460 --> 01:08:07,960 As mentioned and shared this morning, it's a public record. 951 01:08:08,280 --> 01:08:09,960 It's an 82 mile pipeline project. 952 01:08:10,680 --> 01:08:15,240 It's going from the Transco pipeline up near Charlottesville, 953 01:08:15,480 --> 01:08:19,420 and heading south around Richmond down the Charlottesville city 954 01:08:19,420 --> 01:08:21,020 to the proposed power plant. 955 01:08:22,860 --> 01:08:26,120 You can see there's some majority of the, you know, 956 01:08:26,280 --> 01:08:29,400 there's 392 parcels that are affected by this pipeline, 957 01:08:29,640 --> 01:08:31,840 not all those or in Luis Accounting. 958 01:08:31,840 --> 01:08:36,160 There's 180 in Louis, the county currently. 959 01:08:37,160 --> 01:08:42,660 Like I said, encompass what we're focused on is the initial contact with all the landowners. 960 01:08:43,180 --> 01:08:45,840 Those letters went out in July as you're aware. 961 01:08:47,460 --> 01:08:50,600 We began as a follow up to that. 962 01:08:51,460 --> 01:08:57,800 Maybe a week and a half ago, we have a land agent in the field that's going door to door to the residents. 963 01:08:57,800 --> 01:09:03,500 and then also myself and another person is calling some of the companies, the LLCs and the 964 01:09:03,500 --> 01:09:03,780 Corpse. 965 01:09:04,280 --> 01:09:10,420 To discuss the project with them, and then also, again, request their permission to access 966 01:09:10,420 --> 01:09:17,540 their property to begin survey operations to see if there's a route that can be obtained 967 01:09:17,540 --> 01:09:19,580 or a vibe or out. 968 01:09:19,720 --> 01:09:20,560 Second slide, please. 969 01:09:24,160 --> 01:09:28,900 Again, this is the bullet points on the keys of the project and environmental considerations 970 01:09:28,900 --> 01:09:37,080 with any of these projects. I will read the room one at a time, but the next slide is 971 01:09:37,080 --> 01:09:37,300 addressed. 972 01:09:41,940 --> 01:09:49,180 Just a slide to talk about the overall project, this plan at one time to be in 973 01:09:49,180 --> 01:09:52,860 the future, not one time. Be in the future, be a hydrogen project. 974 01:09:54,930 --> 01:09:55,990 Next slide. 975 01:10:02,990 --> 01:10:03,190 Again, 976 01:10:03,370 --> 01:10:08,770 just more of a little points about the key projects. I apologize, I don't have more, but 977 01:10:08,770 --> 01:10:17,930 In compasses mainly focused with the initial outreach for the survey permission so these are some slides that the company asked us to enter into the public record. 978 01:10:18,470 --> 01:10:19,490 Next slide please. 979 01:10:22,750 --> 01:10:25,530 In just some final bullet points about the keys to the project. 980 01:10:29,760 --> 01:10:33,680 Again, I like the, like we have a land agent in the field. 981 01:10:34,800 --> 01:10:36,320 The letters went out in July. 982 01:10:37,540 --> 01:10:41,820 We're speaking to each party individually, to gain those permissions. 983 01:10:42,140 --> 01:10:49,460 We don't access the property before ever contacting the landowner, gaining that permission, 984 01:10:51,120 --> 01:10:54,040 but I'm open to questions for many of the board members for the chairman. 985 01:10:56,930 --> 01:11:04,230 I'd like to start on your slide right here is the one that's kind of like contradictory 986 01:11:04,230 --> 01:11:12,730 in terms when support of local government, I think it's been real funny how this company 987 01:11:12,730 --> 01:11:20,370 has tried to gain the support of us, our responsibility as to represent our people and 988 01:11:20,370 --> 01:11:21,190 protect our land. 989 01:11:21,990 --> 01:11:29,470 So going to our residents first, without even having the courtesy, to come to us first to explain 990 01:11:29,470 --> 01:11:34,210 the situation so that we'd be better prepared to answer the questions from our residents 991 01:11:34,210 --> 01:11:39,190 I just can't, I can't fathom a company doing it in that way. 992 01:11:40,290 --> 01:11:42,430 What is your answer to that? 993 01:11:43,470 --> 01:11:45,170 I guess I don't have an answer, right? 994 01:11:45,410 --> 01:11:47,410 I've been to my answers. 995 01:11:48,150 --> 01:11:54,210 It's typically the way we've done projects in the past to talk to the affected land owners first. 996 01:11:55,370 --> 01:11:59,510 But it's always a coordinated effort with the local government. 997 01:11:59,510 --> 01:12:16,510 I know that this kind of got flipped up beforehand, but it's our encompass as far as the upcoming meetings to be here periodically to update the board and its members as the progress as the project goes on. 998 01:12:17,810 --> 01:12:18,110 Mr. Barnes. 999 01:12:18,110 --> 01:12:32,090 You know, and in my 24 years on board, I've seen a lot of presentations, okay, I'm just going to be honest with you, and my dad, you should say, boy, I might not have been a fucking third grade, but I ain't no third grade. 1000 01:12:36,000 --> 01:12:41,860 What you're presenting here, people like somebody gave you a box of rocks to say, go see them board and leave. 1001 01:12:42,740 --> 01:12:43,600 It was poor. 1002 01:12:44,380 --> 01:12:49,780 at best. I know you got a job to do. But this is not becoming of an elected 1003 01:12:49,780 --> 01:12:51,020 body presentation. 1004 01:12:53,160 --> 01:12:56,120 It can't insults me at the board member. 1005 01:12:59,040 --> 01:12:59,840 And I'm probably 1006 01:12:59,840 --> 01:13:01,440 wondering how this guy is your meet. 1007 01:13:04,720 --> 01:13:06,480 But I would have some choice words 1008 01:13:06,480 --> 01:13:13,260 we just get offered this day. Okay, but I'm just telling you it was poor. I 1009 01:13:13,260 --> 01:13:18,340 don't think they've taken consideration who we are and the people we represent. And then what you 1010 01:13:18,340 --> 01:13:23,580 presented us, you really could have stayed where you were and they put it in the mail. I'm done. 1011 01:13:24,820 --> 01:13:28,280 It's here. It's here. It's here. Mr. Hager, Mr. Hager, right? 1012 01:13:29,200 --> 01:13:29,600 Okay. 1013 01:13:29,600 --> 01:13:30,200 But is it? 1014 01:13:31,060 --> 01:13:31,740 Hey, good to see. 1015 01:13:32,020 --> 01:13:32,340 Hey, you see. 1016 01:13:32,820 --> 01:13:33,700 Hey, KDRF. 1017 01:13:35,480 --> 01:13:40,620 Well, you must have drawn the short straw for them to send you here tonight, because Mr. 1018 01:13:40,720 --> 01:13:47,180 Barnett and I didn't speak, but I've been in business for 42 years, said on this board 1019 01:13:47,920 --> 01:13:48,720 for four. 1020 01:13:48,840 --> 01:13:51,020 That's a worse presentation I've ever seen in my life. 1021 01:13:52,120 --> 01:13:53,160 That's not directed to you. 1022 01:13:53,160 --> 01:13:54,620 This is what I gave you in the sense. 1023 01:13:55,960 --> 01:13:58,620 So, where's Mr. what is his name? 1024 01:13:59,340 --> 01:13:59,420 Ali. 1025 01:14:00,600 --> 01:14:01,300 Where's he? 1026 01:14:02,140 --> 01:14:03,380 I know he forgot his last time. 1027 01:14:03,440 --> 01:14:04,380 I forgot to put it on the calendar. 1028 01:14:05,000 --> 01:14:05,900 Where's he? 1029 01:14:06,580 --> 01:14:07,520 I don't know sir. 1030 01:14:08,880 --> 01:14:10,180 Because I want to read. 1031 01:14:10,440 --> 01:14:11,240 I kept this. 1032 01:14:11,240 --> 01:14:12,620 I said I was going to read it. 1033 01:14:13,580 --> 01:14:16,720 This is a letter that he sent to the county administrator. 1034 01:14:17,700 --> 01:14:18,720 You don't have to answer this. 1035 01:14:18,740 --> 01:14:22,080 I'm just busted on the company because this whole thing 1036 01:14:22,080 --> 01:14:28,880 should be in business 101, how to totally screw up a project into your public relations because it's been terrible. 1037 01:14:29,660 --> 01:14:36,580 We have people here tonight that only came to speak about this because they don't have any information and they're going to leave tonight. 1038 01:14:37,020 --> 01:14:38,040 They still don't have any information. 1039 01:14:38,180 --> 01:14:40,720 Go back to your first slide before I read this guy's letter. 1040 01:14:41,000 --> 01:14:42,780 Whoever's changing this slide. 1041 01:14:52,960 --> 01:14:53,660 No, keep going. 1042 01:14:55,000 --> 01:14:55,420 Oh, Eric. 1043 01:14:55,420 --> 01:14:59,980 The Chikahami pipeline lateral project is planned to transport natural gas. 1044 01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:06,060 Yes. From transcos, existing pipeline, near shortest fill to the check on the power of project in 1045 01:15:06,060 --> 01:15:12,720 Trial City County. Do you know exactly where it connects to that transcos, existing pipeline? 1046 01:15:14,500 --> 01:15:19,940 Yes. I mean, where? Where? I don't know exactly the highway. 1047 01:15:20,780 --> 01:15:22,060 What locality? 1048 01:15:22,820 --> 01:15:27,400 It's not in the recent county. It's in their Charlottesville up above. 1049 01:15:27,400 --> 01:15:31,600 Okay, it's an album roll counting, that right? 1050 01:15:31,920 --> 01:15:34,320 So this is the same presentation you give an album roll counting? 1051 01:15:34,980 --> 01:15:36,000 This is the first presentation. 1052 01:15:36,480 --> 01:15:38,560 Okay, maybe this is a trial run. 1053 01:15:39,680 --> 01:15:41,080 Here's the email. 1054 01:15:41,420 --> 01:15:42,840 I'm reading this for the public. 1055 01:15:43,380 --> 01:15:47,560 The Mr. Alley sent after our last meeting to Mr. Goodman. 1056 01:15:47,960 --> 01:15:48,560 Good morning, Christian. 1057 01:15:48,820 --> 01:15:51,760 I have noted it with some degree of surprise and disappointment 1058 01:15:52,200 --> 01:15:56,240 by the way my absence from this meeting has been characterized in the media 1059 01:15:56,240 --> 01:15:59,500 comments made by some board members of the board. 1060 01:16:00,220 --> 01:16:02,500 With that upset him, this would not have really upset him. 1061 01:16:02,900 --> 01:16:06,300 I said the record straight, yes, I did forget to put the date in my 1062 01:16:06,300 --> 01:16:10,240 calendar, but from the initial email exchange on August 24th, 1063 01:16:10,840 --> 01:16:13,540 you waited till the day of the meeting to communicate a reminder. 1064 01:16:14,380 --> 01:16:17,960 You had nearly a month to send details of the meeting and what 1065 01:16:17,960 --> 01:16:21,280 the expected agenda for the meeting would be, but did not do so. 1066 01:16:21,560 --> 01:16:24,180 Had you done that, it would have been more likely 1067 01:16:24,180 --> 01:16:27,180 have resulted in someone from our project being present. 1068 01:16:28,660 --> 01:16:33,600 If this is a guy that's in charge of building natural gas pipeline, he didn't even take 1069 01:16:33,600 --> 01:16:38,040 responsibility for forgetting, he'd blame the county administrator. 1070 01:16:39,520 --> 01:16:43,240 I mean, I'm not going to beat you up because, I mean, that's not fair. 1071 01:16:43,460 --> 01:16:45,880 They've sent you here because obviously he didn't want to be here. 1072 01:16:47,560 --> 01:16:54,080 But I will go and record to say that none of the concerns that I have, none of the concerns 1073 01:16:54,080 --> 01:16:59,600 that I think some of the people spoke here tonight or had their comments read in, have been addressed. 1074 01:17:01,480 --> 01:17:05,700 This guy, who's now twice, hasn't come to this meeting. 1075 01:17:06,240 --> 01:17:14,160 I guess he doesn't think this board's important, or that the 180 parcels that it crosses 1076 01:17:14,160 --> 01:17:15,760 in Louisiana County are important. 1077 01:17:16,360 --> 01:17:20,240 So I don't know if you ever see, but that's the message you should take back. 1078 01:17:20,240 --> 01:17:25,380 Obviously he watches the video, so Mr. Halley, if you're watching, where the hell are you? 1079 01:17:25,780 --> 01:17:28,700 I mean, if you want to talk about a pipeline in Louisiana, can he? 1080 01:17:28,700 --> 01:17:30,100 He needs to be here. 1081 01:17:30,600 --> 01:17:32,580 I appreciate you coming, you drew the short straw. 1082 01:17:32,720 --> 01:17:36,580 That's none of this directed at you, and I get it. 1083 01:17:36,580 --> 01:17:38,380 But you're a contract employee, even. 1084 01:17:39,200 --> 01:17:41,400 So you're not even an employee of Chicago Harmony pipeline, right? 1085 01:17:41,400 --> 01:17:42,920 Yes, sir. Okay. Thank you. 1086 01:17:47,950 --> 01:17:52,750 I'm sorry you heard, but you did draw a short straw, and thank you for coming and 1087 01:17:52,750 --> 01:17:56,510 attempting to present what they gave to you. 1088 01:17:56,510 --> 01:18:02,950 That's the generous, I'd like to ask you a question, basically, what your purpose, in 1089 01:18:02,950 --> 01:18:09,370 addition to relating this information on site, what message were you responsible for bringing 1090 01:18:09,370 --> 01:18:10,030 back? 1091 01:18:10,250 --> 01:18:17,870 To update the board on our field activities and that we're contacting the affected landowners. 1092 01:18:18,670 --> 01:18:27,770 And do you think that they're going to be able to translate what we've said tonight in response to the briefing you gave? 1093 01:18:27,770 --> 01:18:29,610 You're assuming you're scared, Mr. Chairman. 1094 01:18:31,210 --> 01:18:34,090 Those are those need to be more meetings and more discussions with the Reynolds. 1095 01:18:34,810 --> 01:18:35,910 I would agree with that. Yes. 1096 01:18:35,970 --> 01:18:36,850 Am I at this board? 1097 01:18:37,310 --> 01:18:41,350 Even with the board? Yes, with the board, Mr. Chairman. 1098 01:18:42,210 --> 01:18:42,770 May I ask for a second? 1099 01:18:42,770 --> 01:18:42,990 Wait. 1100 01:18:44,530 --> 01:18:50,850 Mr. Ackers, what's concerning to me is I know a little something about going and talking 1101 01:18:50,850 --> 01:18:54,670 to affected land owners for projects that someone may want to do. 1102 01:18:55,450 --> 01:19:01,070 And if the information that we've received is the governing body of this county, if that's 1103 01:19:01,070 --> 01:19:06,590 the same level of the information that's being disseminated to our people that we represent 1104 01:19:06,590 --> 01:19:16,070 that own these pieces of land. Then we would be derelict in our jobs if we didn't say these 1105 01:19:16,070 --> 01:19:22,270 things and hold this company for however long it's been formed to a much, much higher 1106 01:19:22,270 --> 01:19:27,490 standard than this. So, I'd like to echo what Mr. William said. I'm not jumping on you, 1107 01:19:28,150 --> 01:19:34,950 but please take back to your employer that if they have any designs of doing business in 1108 01:19:34,950 --> 01:19:42,610 is a county that they better understand that this is just not acceptable. It's not just that 1109 01:19:42,610 --> 01:19:47,310 it's not acceptable to this board. It's not acceptable to our people. They have got to be 1110 01:19:47,310 --> 01:19:53,030 better informed about who you are, where you're from, what your plans are, what your 1111 01:19:53,030 --> 01:19:59,430 short and long range goals are, what your engineering is. I mean, the level and the lack of 1112 01:19:59,430 --> 01:20:04,490 of specificity and detail is unconscionable to me. 1113 01:20:05,410 --> 01:20:06,910 So I just want to get those on the record. 1114 01:20:06,950 --> 01:20:08,230 Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 1115 01:20:08,650 --> 01:20:09,530 Yes, Mr. Judgerid. 1116 01:20:10,070 --> 01:20:11,630 Yeah, I don't want to be ugly at all, 1117 01:20:12,310 --> 01:20:14,910 but we all know, I think everybody in this room knows 1118 01:20:14,910 --> 01:20:18,270 that any pipeline anywhere is controversial. 1119 01:20:19,330 --> 01:20:22,310 And here's a proposal that's been made 1120 01:20:22,310 --> 01:20:24,530 to a few constituents in the county, 1121 01:20:25,190 --> 01:20:27,330 and we know very little about it. 1122 01:20:27,330 --> 01:20:31,630 If I was sitting here and had to make a decision where I support it don't support, I don't 1123 01:20:31,630 --> 01:20:31,870 want to. 1124 01:20:31,970 --> 01:20:36,250 I feel like I've got all the information, as alone lies with what Mr. Perselle just mentioned. 1125 01:20:37,450 --> 01:20:42,410 It's really not the way to do business, knowing of front that this is a very controversial 1126 01:20:42,410 --> 01:20:43,010 issue. 1127 01:20:44,130 --> 01:20:44,670 Thank you. 1128 01:20:48,450 --> 01:20:48,890 Mr. Chairman. 1129 01:20:49,110 --> 01:20:50,090 Yes, Mr. Rhodes. 1130 01:20:51,910 --> 01:20:52,630 I have a motion. 1131 01:20:52,990 --> 01:20:59,730 I move the county attorney, Valley Response for Louise Accounting, that reports as a concerns 1132 01:20:59,730 --> 01:21:03,250 expressed tonight by the Wizard County residents and reserves the right for the 1133 01:21:03,250 --> 01:21:07,710 Wizard County to file further arguments before the SEC at a later date of 1134 01:21:07,710 --> 01:21:13,570 necessary. Second, Mayor, most of the second, any discussion? All in favor? 1135 01:21:14,210 --> 01:21:18,210 Aye. Any opposed? Most of the guards. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. 1136 01:21:18,570 --> 01:21:20,930 Thank you. Good evening. Appreciate your time very much. Yes, sir. 1137 01:21:23,540 --> 01:21:23,940 Okay. 1138 01:21:25,580 --> 01:21:31,020 Sorry, I got to take a second here to remove my. I know. I just want to 1139 01:21:31,020 --> 01:21:34,220 We're not personally here, then after all that. 1140 01:21:34,520 --> 01:21:36,360 Okay, next item is unfinished business. 1141 01:21:36,520 --> 01:21:37,740 Is there any unfinished business? 1142 01:21:39,140 --> 01:21:41,780 Okay, moving on to new business action items. 1143 01:21:46,700 --> 01:21:47,660 New business action. 1144 01:21:48,140 --> 01:21:51,560 Okay, reports of officers, boards, and standing committees. 1145 01:21:53,800 --> 01:21:56,000 I'd like to make the first one. 1146 01:21:56,080 --> 01:21:57,060 I'd like to make the other one, sir. 1147 01:21:57,820 --> 01:21:59,600 No, I think there's somebody else. 1148 01:21:59,680 --> 01:22:02,560 Now, we're working on something, but we'll come back. 1149 01:22:03,000 --> 01:22:03,580 Okay, yeah. 1150 01:22:03,580 --> 01:22:05,220 That's what I was thinking. There might be something. 1151 01:22:05,820 --> 01:22:11,940 Yeah, I'd like to make, you know, I was going to start with four score and seven years ago, but I'll just skip the four score. 1152 01:22:12,840 --> 01:22:17,500 Seven years ago, the broadband authority was created by the board. 1153 01:22:17,780 --> 01:22:23,200 The divisive plan to improve the deplorable internet service in our county. 1154 01:22:24,520 --> 01:22:30,420 While this seemed a daunting task, a group of tech savvy residents came through to meet the challenge. 1155 01:22:30,420 --> 01:22:40,320 The county funded with a whopping some of one million dollars which was the exact amount that was funded by our state for the whole state. 1156 01:22:42,220 --> 01:22:47,480 This task was complicated, fraught with obstacles, and seemingly unsurmountable issues. 1157 01:22:48,060 --> 01:22:58,540 But the commitment and dedication of these professionals who had the knowledge, the experience, and the people's skills, navigating the course, and blaze the trail. 1158 01:22:59,700 --> 01:23:02,800 The team changed over the years, of course. 1159 01:23:03,220 --> 01:23:09,340 So I want to express on behalf of our Board and all of our residents of Louisa, our deepest 1160 01:23:09,340 --> 01:23:17,240 gratitude for setting the stage of the foundation for which is now the future of Louisa County 1161 01:23:17,240 --> 01:23:18,920 broadband implementation. 1162 01:23:21,740 --> 01:23:22,660 That's my whole story. 1163 01:23:22,880 --> 01:23:24,020 I'm sticking to it. 1164 01:23:26,080 --> 01:23:27,580 Are there any other committee reports? 1165 01:23:29,640 --> 01:23:40,540 Okay. Next is Board Appointments. There's any Board Appointments. Moving right along, we know 1166 01:23:40,540 --> 01:23:44,840 we know we're going to get a report from our County Administrative. 1167 01:23:45,460 --> 01:23:51,460 Yes, sir. My laptop crashed just moments ago. So we'll just wing this 1168 01:23:51,460 --> 01:23:57,100 memory here. Really the only two things I wanted to make sure that I covered tonight. I wanted 1169 01:23:57,100 --> 01:24:01,800 to thank all of you who attended the Fall Festival this weekend. It was a great success. Beautiful 1170 01:24:01,800 --> 01:24:06,180 weather and another great event this year. So thank you very much for that. And I do want to 1171 01:24:06,180 --> 01:24:12,540 specifically cover we got a letter from DEQ offering to take over reviews of erosion and 1172 01:24:12,540 --> 01:24:27,400 control plans. For utilities scale solar projects. Okay. Thank you. So they would like a decision on this by later this month 1173 01:24:27,400 --> 01:24:33,440 specifically after your next meeting we asked for an extension. Just as a reminder right now in the way that happens. 1174 01:24:33,820 --> 01:24:39,820 So the local soil and water conservation district performs those reviews. The applicant pays a fee that's associated with those reviews. 1175 01:24:39,820 --> 01:24:44,000 there will be a PSO-shade with having DEQ perform those reviews as well. 1176 01:24:44,260 --> 01:24:48,740 They're estimating that it's going to be comparable to the fees that are charged for their 1177 01:24:48,740 --> 01:24:53,240 stormwater reviews right now, which is a little under $10,000 for anything over 100 acres. 1178 01:24:55,420 --> 01:25:01,340 So we've got some time to think about it. It's not in a reversible decision, but it isn't 1179 01:25:01,340 --> 01:25:05,200 all or nothing one way or another. So if we decide to have them do it now, 1180 01:25:06,680 --> 01:25:12,320 any future utilities care, anything over five megawatts would be reviewed by the EQ. 1181 01:25:12,480 --> 01:25:16,480 We could not enter opt-out on a project specific basis because they're basically trying 1182 01:25:16,480 --> 01:25:22,220 to get an idea now of how much staff they would need going forward to take care of these. 1183 01:25:22,800 --> 01:25:24,400 So we can get in now, and that means all projects. 1184 01:25:24,400 --> 01:25:24,660 Exactly. 1185 01:25:24,900 --> 01:25:25,680 This across the state. 1186 01:25:25,900 --> 01:25:26,280 They are. 1187 01:25:28,200 --> 01:25:30,380 So is this the camera stick in his nose in the tent? 1188 01:25:31,760 --> 01:25:33,920 Let me do a little bit more research on that. 1189 01:25:33,920 --> 01:25:38,220 We're going to ask you for a resolution at the October 18th meeting and I really wanted 1190 01:25:38,220 --> 01:25:39,940 to kind of get your questions tonight. 1191 01:25:40,800 --> 01:25:44,840 I still set up to do the next thing you know, all of these heads there because that would 1192 01:25:44,840 --> 01:25:45,340 be hard. 1193 01:25:46,400 --> 01:25:53,420 I think we're looking at a different reviewing body and maybe not necessarily a difference in 1194 01:25:53,420 --> 01:25:55,820 the standards themselves caused by that. 1195 01:25:56,560 --> 01:26:02,040 They have offered to review beyond the Cape of Beyond those measures which are directly 1196 01:26:02,040 --> 01:26:07,180 regulatory in nature, which has potential benefit. I want to solar utilities solar development 1197 01:26:07,180 --> 01:26:11,920 committee to take a look at those as well because they've kind of they've intimated 1198 01:26:11,920 --> 01:26:18,260 that they would be willing to review measures that are beyond what is required in ESC regulations. 1199 01:26:19,320 --> 01:26:23,940 Not to make a determination on that but they'd be willing to offer their thoughts on it and 1200 01:26:23,940 --> 01:26:28,400 having that level of expertise especially by another third party would be good. I also think 1201 01:26:28,400 --> 01:26:40,540 So a modern conservation district is really loaded down with those right now, and I think to have maybe those off their plate could be something that's valuable to them as well, but we'll check on that in advance of your decisions 1202 01:26:40,540 --> 01:26:58,380 So I'm really I'm glad to take any questions. I do the best. I can we just got this letter last week. So I've done some research for no time. Mr. Chairman. The five you said five megawatt. Yes, and so with that also include like say 10 megawatt's on a farm that someone just has out that's running their farm 1203 01:26:58,380 --> 01:27:03,900 operation would we get dq involved in that. They said that it would be, you know, I think 1204 01:27:03,900 --> 01:27:07,460 they've classified it and again, I don't know if the letter in front of you in front of me 1205 01:27:07,460 --> 01:27:11,500 it starts on page 69 in your board packet, which is, you know, a solar park like one thing, 1206 01:27:11,820 --> 01:27:14,640 but, you know, some people if they had them on their farms or they were otherwise operating 1207 01:27:14,640 --> 01:27:18,940 a domestic thing, it still may be, I just wondered if that was their threshold or our threshold. 1208 01:27:19,120 --> 01:27:21,120 I was just doing that out. I'll check on that in verify. 1209 01:27:24,240 --> 01:27:25,800 And I know it's good and you always 1210 01:27:25,800 --> 01:27:29,080 to a very thorough job on these kinds of subjects. 1211 01:27:29,520 --> 01:27:38,000 I would make sure that you add a lot of pros and cons so that we get a real good understanding 1212 01:27:38,560 --> 01:27:42,280 because I just want to know what the depth of the iceberg looks like. 1213 01:27:43,240 --> 01:27:50,080 Yeah, I think, you know, from the development standpoint, timeline could be an issue. 1214 01:27:50,220 --> 01:27:53,700 Obviously, they're going to be looking at a workload across the entire state. 1215 01:27:55,040 --> 01:28:00,180 You know, they already have that experience doing storm water, I think that could be a benefit. 1216 01:28:00,900 --> 01:28:05,060 I'm kind of working on that list, and I will have it more formalized by your 18th meeting. 1217 01:28:05,300 --> 01:28:07,400 But again, I wanted to talk to you about it tonight. 1218 01:28:07,540 --> 01:28:08,740 Again, I put that letter in your pack. 1219 01:28:08,860 --> 01:28:09,620 I don't page 69. 1220 01:28:09,860 --> 01:28:10,760 Take a look at it. 1221 01:28:10,960 --> 01:28:15,840 Let me know if you have questions sooner rather than later so that I can make sure I have answers for you on the 18th. 1222 01:28:15,840 --> 01:28:17,700 I think I could help you. 1223 01:28:17,700 --> 01:28:33,760 I beg of what if I did my math rates about 20,000 amps at 240 volts, so I don't think you would find me by the heads that just sitting around on a farm or anything like if that would be okay, that would be like way way way too big 1224 01:28:33,760 --> 01:28:34,820 Okay, so 1225 01:28:34,820 --> 01:28:38,680 5,5 megawatts 5 megawatts to be 20,000 megawatts to be 20,000 megawatts 1226 01:28:38,680 --> 01:28:41,900 All right, I think that would be just like 1227 01:28:41,900 --> 01:28:44,320 Okay, so it's a 240 volts too. 1228 01:28:44,920 --> 01:28:44,980 Okay. 1229 01:28:44,980 --> 01:28:45,580 Did you have a call? 1230 01:28:45,780 --> 01:28:46,060 It's well. 1231 01:28:46,800 --> 01:28:47,040 Both. 1232 01:28:47,540 --> 01:28:50,160 Yeah, I don't normally see your hand up, but I saw it up then. 1233 01:28:50,320 --> 01:28:51,080 So I wasn't sure. 1234 01:28:51,940 --> 01:28:52,480 Oh, got you. 1235 01:28:52,800 --> 01:28:53,300 Thank you. 1236 01:28:54,340 --> 01:28:55,240 Anyone else? 1237 01:28:55,740 --> 01:29:00,140 Uh, did you want to mention anything about, I know we have a high light on. 1238 01:29:00,460 --> 01:29:03,480 Isn't it October 30th with the hazardous waste day? 1239 01:29:03,800 --> 01:29:04,120 We do. 1240 01:29:04,180 --> 01:29:05,340 I have that date as well. 1241 01:29:05,520 --> 01:29:07,300 It's that Saturday at the end of the month. 1242 01:29:07,320 --> 01:29:08,280 Uh, I think. 1243 01:29:08,280 --> 01:29:11,080 for the first time in, I don't know, seven years. 1244 01:29:11,240 --> 01:29:12,200 I don't know how my notes in front of me. 1245 01:29:12,560 --> 01:29:13,800 But yes, at the end of the month, 1246 01:29:14,000 --> 01:29:14,940 there's a household has- 1247 01:29:14,940 --> 01:29:15,940 there's always fake ham and up. 1248 01:29:15,940 --> 01:29:17,700 It's all over our website and social media. 1249 01:29:18,120 --> 01:29:19,340 That's sort of stuck in my head. 1250 01:29:19,460 --> 01:29:20,700 No, no, no, no, no, no, no. 1251 01:29:20,960 --> 01:29:22,300 See, I know it. 1252 01:29:22,500 --> 01:29:22,800 Go ahead. 1253 01:29:26,550 --> 01:29:27,690 Space is in one. 1254 01:29:29,050 --> 01:29:33,130 Uh, we have Thomas Jefferson Planet after doing 1255 01:29:33,130 --> 01:29:36,310 the ENF plan reviews, stuff like that. 1256 01:29:36,390 --> 01:29:37,270 Yes, sir. 1257 01:29:37,950 --> 01:29:43,490 At one time when we were first considering stone board and stuff we thought about having 1258 01:29:43,490 --> 01:29:47,930 them do that as well, they have it in-house, they're doing it. 1259 01:29:47,970 --> 01:29:52,190 That might be something that we could actually get a better fit for, in terms of planning 1260 01:29:52,190 --> 01:29:59,730 district to look at, not just the in-house plans, but throw the stone water in out with it. 1261 01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:09,420 And I think Ms. Ballam has left, but these nutrient credits that are now being talked about. 1262 01:30:10,000 --> 01:30:15,320 My guess is they are for me with what's, especially with David Blunt being in him. 1263 01:30:16,660 --> 01:30:28,000 But I think this is something maybe Tom's job plan and district could help us with contracted out to them without hiring a bunch of, you know, people. 1264 01:30:30,100 --> 01:30:39,900 And the EQ if we turn it over to them, number one, your project, which is solved the way it is now, but your project is going to be held until they get a chance to do it. 1265 01:30:40,180 --> 01:30:42,420 But they could do it in a stormwater party anyway. 1266 01:30:42,900 --> 01:30:47,900 Well, yeah, but well, indeed, EQ could, they could do it in a stormwater park. 1267 01:30:48,520 --> 01:30:50,760 You could break this thing down in a way you wanted to do it. 1268 01:30:50,760 --> 01:30:50,960 Sure. 1269 01:30:53,040 --> 01:31:00,960 But I would say this may be an opportunity for the terms of plan and district to do so. 1270 01:31:01,500 --> 01:31:02,380 Very good. 1271 01:31:02,560 --> 01:31:04,960 I'd like to champion what he just suggested. 1272 01:31:05,360 --> 01:31:09,220 And I know Mr. Gentry and Mr. Brawlow, they're veterans of this time or 1273 01:31:09,220 --> 01:31:10,640 Jefferson Planning District Commission. 1274 01:31:11,200 --> 01:31:12,660 I've been on it four years. 1275 01:31:13,380 --> 01:31:18,960 And the constant, especially when you're first on it, you get the feel that there's such heavy 1276 01:31:18,960 --> 01:31:29,240 attention to Albumar and Charlottesville and us lower sisters of the poor and the other counties seem to get relegated 1277 01:31:29,240 --> 01:31:35,540 much lower priority. So I think we were we struck our court getting the small area, Zion area, 1278 01:31:35,900 --> 01:31:43,880 small area, which they funded. So this would be another another rationale for why we contribute in our 1279 01:31:43,880 --> 01:31:48,720 budget to the whole the whole unity of the hope of that five counties in the one city 1280 01:31:48,720 --> 01:31:58,340 understood. Any other comments for Mr. Goodman. Thank you. Okay. It's now time 1281 01:31:58,340 --> 01:32:05,580 everybody's waiting for the public hearings. So once again, I would like to open the public 1282 01:32:05,580 --> 01:32:11,380 hearing and invite anyone who would like to speak. I'm sorry. I said that wrong. And 1283 01:32:11,380 --> 01:32:19,880 again. This is for staff reports. Everybody is willing to come up, hang on. The staff reports, 1284 01:32:20,720 --> 01:32:26,060 then the first staff report is adding to Louisa County Coach after 70, Taxation 1285 01:32:26,060 --> 01:32:32,920 Article 1, dash in general session 70, dash 16, dash personal property, tax returns, 1286 01:32:35,340 --> 01:32:35,340 and 1287 01:32:35,340 --> 01:32:39,060 this chairman, we have commissioner in the revenue, Mr. Stacey Fletcher and invite her forward 1288 01:32:39,060 --> 01:32:44,860 to give a couple of remarks. I think this is a fairly routine change, but I'll let her make remarks 1289 01:32:44,860 --> 01:32:46,140 on that and get you a questions. 1290 01:32:46,520 --> 01:32:52,040 As they see, I would like to start with, I know the attendance has diminished here. Don't 1291 01:32:52,040 --> 01:32:54,980 take that personal. There's still a lot of people listening. 1292 01:32:55,920 --> 01:33:02,600 No offense taken. The code of Virginia, I don't know, it's for lip count rates to adapt 1293 01:33:02,600 --> 01:33:12,080 what a lot of counties are starting to do, file by exception, so it would be, let me get 1294 01:33:12,080 --> 01:33:17,800 and it's, I make sure I say all of this right. You would not have to file annually 1295 01:33:17,800 --> 01:33:26,700 on your personal property forms for motor vehicles and that businesses, aircraft, mobile 1296 01:33:26,700 --> 01:33:30,520 homes, but still have to file. We would still do a personal property mail link to those 1297 01:33:30,520 --> 01:33:36,300 individuals. This would just cut down on the personal property filings that we send for 1298 01:33:36,300 --> 01:33:42,740 personal property to all the individuals in the county. They would be taxed on what they 1299 01:33:42,740 --> 01:33:47,520 were taxed on this year for next year unless they notified the commissioner's office of 1300 01:33:47,520 --> 01:33:55,380 18. Any change that takes effect, they are supposed to notify our office within 38. There would 1301 01:33:55,380 --> 01:34:03,360 a form available online that they can fill out and submit. They can call us. They can 1302 01:34:03,360 --> 01:34:10,820 come in and notify us of the change. Excuse me. My office download is from the AMA on the 1303 01:34:10,820 --> 01:34:15,740 monthly basis, so we're pretty much keep up with the changes of personal property within the 1304 01:34:15,740 --> 01:34:21,540 account. This is just a little bit of an annual file length for everybody. 1305 01:34:24,570 --> 01:34:25,190 Any questions? 1306 01:34:26,010 --> 01:34:31,330 So would you still send a notice of what is currently on there every year for a buddy about it? 1307 01:34:32,090 --> 01:34:35,370 So you wouldn't even mail what you currently have. 1308 01:34:35,830 --> 01:34:36,410 So exactly. 1309 01:34:36,770 --> 01:34:40,090 So if I don't check it, you miss it. 1310 01:34:40,510 --> 01:34:41,810 Then I'm getting taxed for it. 1311 01:34:42,090 --> 01:34:43,190 And I have to figure out a minute. 1312 01:34:44,630 --> 01:34:45,450 Well, it's. 1313 01:34:45,790 --> 01:34:46,270 It's. 1314 01:34:46,270 --> 01:34:47,010 No, no, no. 1315 01:34:47,830 --> 01:34:49,610 So you followed for this year 2021. 1316 01:34:51,350 --> 01:34:53,550 If the board adopts this. 1317 01:34:53,550 --> 01:34:58,330 there would be no filing for 2022 unless you had a change. 1318 01:34:59,850 --> 01:35:01,710 So, if I sold a vehicle, 1319 01:35:02,250 --> 01:35:06,250 you're supposed to contact the commissioner's office within 30 days of selling that vehicle. 1320 01:35:07,150 --> 01:35:07,950 I will say nobody. 1321 01:35:09,030 --> 01:35:11,930 I have so a lot of vehicles I have never done that ever. 1322 01:35:12,270 --> 01:35:14,550 Right, because we've had the personal property for them. 1323 01:35:14,550 --> 01:35:19,090 And my guess is 95% of people will lose their mind when they have. 1324 01:35:19,090 --> 01:35:22,310 But when you sell your vehicle, do you not know if I'd be in vain? 1325 01:35:22,310 --> 01:35:27,910 you know if I DMV. And we download from DMV monthly. So even if you don't know if I 1326 01:35:27,910 --> 01:35:32,810 we get that information from the V on a monthly basis. So let's, unless there's a mistake or 1327 01:35:32,810 --> 01:35:39,610 show. So we'll take MS on DMVs part two. We'll take two misses. Yes. You have to miss both of them 1328 01:35:39,610 --> 01:35:45,210 concurrent. Right. It's not that you're going to be taxed if you don't contact us as long as DMV 1329 01:35:45,210 --> 01:35:51,490 has been updated. Now DMVs records are of course as good as DMVs. The people don't get 1330 01:35:52,430 --> 01:36:02,570 I don't even go there, so it seems to me like this is just a new way of doing business and it's going to have a rather steep learning curve as my guess. 1331 01:36:03,870 --> 01:36:12,990 You're going to do most of it automatically probably 99.9% of it's going to just be caught by doing your website updates and stuff like that. 1332 01:36:13,190 --> 01:36:14,850 But there's still a comfort level. 1333 01:36:14,850 --> 01:36:22,770 It would seem that the citizens are going to have to get used to because you're changing the way you're doing this and that's what's that's what's got me 1334 01:36:23,430 --> 01:36:27,330 So, is there a is there a way? 1335 01:36:27,450 --> 01:36:35,470 Is he necessary not necessarily a certified a form if we could just maybe do a mailing in next year if we were to prove this 1336 01:36:35,470 --> 01:36:42,550 Well, that was going to say if if it's approved what we would do in January and instead of sending out that personal property form 1337 01:36:42,550 --> 01:36:48,430 listing everybody's information, we would send them just a notification that this has been 1338 01:36:48,430 --> 01:36:51,810 adopted, this is how we're going to start filing with the personal capacity. 1339 01:36:51,850 --> 01:36:54,730 And maybe these are the current vehicles we have. 1340 01:36:54,870 --> 01:36:58,910 Were you on that and that's your baseline to start with? 1341 01:36:58,950 --> 01:36:59,370 Absolutely. 1342 01:37:00,310 --> 01:37:06,610 I'm just trying to, I mean, I don't think it's, I feel like I'm viewing it from a user 1343 01:37:06,610 --> 01:37:07,770 And ours is gets complicated. 1344 01:37:08,070 --> 01:37:10,130 We have several businesses that have vehicles, 1345 01:37:11,110 --> 01:37:12,790 and it's just convoluted. 1346 01:37:13,030 --> 01:37:14,990 So businesses will have to go found with you. 1347 01:37:15,030 --> 01:37:17,530 No, not to follow their vehicles, 1348 01:37:17,990 --> 01:37:19,810 they'll have to follow their business personal problems. 1349 01:37:19,810 --> 01:37:22,050 Business person, not to vehicles, she says. 1350 01:37:22,650 --> 01:37:26,050 I'd like to carry a bridge on what Mr. Williams just said. 1351 01:37:26,390 --> 01:37:29,450 I think it's more than just a letter going out to each other. 1352 01:37:29,530 --> 01:37:32,790 I think you ought to employ other promotional opportunities, 1353 01:37:33,430 --> 01:37:34,010 the newspaper. 1354 01:37:34,350 --> 01:37:36,110 We have a new public says. 1355 01:37:36,110 --> 01:37:40,490 And I think there's better ways to make sure that it, that this message 1356 01:37:40,490 --> 01:37:42,290 gets across to more people. 1357 01:37:42,290 --> 01:37:46,510 And more than just one avenue use every avenue that we have to get the information. 1358 01:37:46,730 --> 01:37:50,250 That's, and I have one question, how does this affect? 1359 01:37:50,510 --> 01:37:57,870 I think I believe every year a nurse comes out about the age and mileage situation. 1360 01:37:58,650 --> 01:38:01,230 How does that affect it in any way? 1361 01:38:02,110 --> 01:38:09,490 People still have the opportunity to file their high-mile, which they won't get a form in the mail, but they can come in and file it. 1362 01:38:09,490 --> 01:38:10,530 They can do it online. 1363 01:38:12,230 --> 01:38:12,790 Everything's online. 1364 01:38:13,150 --> 01:38:16,230 That's going to be another major promotion. 1365 01:38:16,730 --> 01:38:17,850 It's just so people understand. 1366 01:38:18,010 --> 01:38:18,530 Exactly. 1367 01:38:18,770 --> 01:38:25,950 So will you be sending out, say I have a high mileage vehicle, and I submit it electronically. 1368 01:38:27,450 --> 01:38:32,070 will you then next year hit me back electronically to change that for the 1369 01:38:32,070 --> 01:38:35,090 high mileage to make sure I'm still high mileage. I mean I know what's 1370 01:38:35,090 --> 01:38:37,150 reached the threshold because I have a lot of high mileage vehicles. 1371 01:38:37,550 --> 01:38:41,190 Once reached the threshold it's it's all you're getting. But I know so 1372 01:38:41,190 --> 01:38:44,890 know it progressively goes along if I have a car that I run real hard and then 1373 01:38:44,890 --> 01:38:51,050 I buy a new and I sit it for a while and it doesn't I mean I have to prove to 1374 01:38:51,050 --> 01:38:54,790 you every year because I know I do this I have to get to state the 1375 01:38:54,790 --> 01:39:03,390 or something with the repair that actually shows the date and the mileage on it and it becomes tedious at best if you have a lot of vehicles. 1376 01:39:04,890 --> 01:39:08,970 So I'm just just wondering how that process goes in here as well. 1377 01:39:09,270 --> 01:39:11,330 I have to prove to you, I have to send you something every year. 1378 01:39:12,370 --> 01:39:15,590 Now there's no reminder for me to send you that. 1379 01:39:15,730 --> 01:39:23,490 I just have to remember on your own or when you get your bill and you haven't filed, you can file and we can adjust it. 1380 01:39:23,490 --> 01:39:25,890 but we can look at different avenues of the best way 1381 01:39:25,890 --> 01:39:28,130 to handle the hematologies as well. 1382 01:39:28,430 --> 01:39:30,310 Well, because it's such a, 1383 01:39:30,430 --> 01:39:32,870 well, because people have gotten so educated 1384 01:39:32,870 --> 01:39:35,770 and so used to getting that form, 1385 01:39:36,790 --> 01:39:37,850 can be some consideration, 1386 01:39:38,130 --> 01:39:41,130 or continuing that aspect of it, so at least we, 1387 01:39:41,230 --> 01:39:44,310 because I can conceive a whole lot of double work 1388 01:39:44,310 --> 01:39:47,870 for you doing the correct evaction, if a whole, 1389 01:39:47,970 --> 01:39:50,090 depending on how many people didn't comply. 1390 01:39:50,170 --> 01:39:51,370 We can look into that too, 1391 01:39:51,370 --> 01:39:54,190 if you just like kind of like our tax relief, 1392 01:39:54,550 --> 01:39:55,930 if they apply one year and they qualify, 1393 01:39:56,270 --> 01:39:57,010 we send them something. 1394 01:39:57,510 --> 01:39:59,830 We can do that with time, I'll let you know. 1395 01:40:00,190 --> 01:40:01,970 What have we spend on mailing that? 1396 01:40:02,370 --> 01:40:02,830 Silly yellow. 1397 01:40:04,510 --> 01:40:05,470 Go ahead, give me the number. 1398 01:40:05,490 --> 01:40:06,390 I know it's big. 1399 01:40:06,410 --> 01:40:09,910 It is to print the personal property forms. 1400 01:40:10,250 --> 01:40:14,830 It's 7th, 380 dollars to mail the personal property forms. 1401 01:40:15,030 --> 01:40:17,410 It's 12,500 dollars in postage. 1402 01:40:17,430 --> 01:40:18,290 Plus a labor. 1403 01:40:19,530 --> 01:40:21,130 Plus getting everything ready 1404 01:40:21,130 --> 01:40:24,910 to go to the printer. It's probably close to $30,000. 1405 01:40:26,930 --> 01:40:27,990 That's a big issue. 1406 01:40:28,030 --> 01:40:29,150 That's a big issue. That's pretty right there. 1407 01:40:31,350 --> 01:40:32,090 Yes, sprawl. 1408 01:40:32,570 --> 01:40:38,790 In your promoting this or putting it out to the newspapers, have you gone to do it? I think 1409 01:40:38,790 --> 01:40:44,750 it would probably be really if I'm understanding this correctly, there's no tax increase or anything. 1410 01:40:44,750 --> 01:40:52,930 And this is just another way of cutting cost by not having to distribute these things all 1411 01:40:52,930 --> 01:40:53,270 down. 1412 01:40:54,170 --> 01:41:00,310 It's a way of cutting cost, and we have numerous people who will call it, you know, nothing 1413 01:41:00,310 --> 01:41:00,770 has changed. 1414 01:41:00,890 --> 01:41:02,850 Why don't I have to do this? 1415 01:41:03,570 --> 01:41:10,210 You know, everybody is looking at this is probably going to be mostly concerned about, does 1416 01:41:10,210 --> 01:41:10,710 this change? 1417 01:41:11,010 --> 01:41:12,130 My taxes in any way. 1418 01:41:12,510 --> 01:41:13,730 And I don't think it doesn't sound like it's- 1419 01:41:13,730 --> 01:41:19,490 It's not going to change anything, tax-wise, it's just trying to eliminate the paperwork. 1420 01:41:22,200 --> 01:41:22,780 That's just right. 1421 01:41:23,740 --> 01:41:24,540 Right, that's right. 1422 01:41:26,520 --> 01:41:32,140 So I get the cost cutting, which is probably 25 to 30,000 dollars. 1423 01:41:35,730 --> 01:41:43,670 But I'm concerned that I was thinking about the high-modage issue that Mr. Williams has. 1424 01:41:43,670 --> 01:41:51,030 So we're shifting, and I would suspect we have quite a number of people who qualify for the high 1425 01:41:51,030 --> 01:41:53,410 mileage in the county, right? 1426 01:41:53,410 --> 01:41:54,270 We did. 1427 01:41:55,690 --> 01:42:04,710 So are we shifting the responsibility to the citizen, to notify the commissioner's office, 1428 01:42:05,410 --> 01:42:07,030 to get that tax reduction? 1429 01:42:08,170 --> 01:42:13,150 know we're shifting the remembering to do it. 1430 01:42:15,190 --> 01:42:18,510 That's what you're shifting is the 1431 01:42:18,510 --> 01:42:24,250 oh it's that. I got to go collect all these stuff. So here's how it works. Now I 1432 01:42:24,250 --> 01:42:29,050 get my I think we just, oh you don't have your high mileage vehicle. You get your 1433 01:42:29,050 --> 01:42:34,010 personal property form in the mail with a high mileage application that end 1434 01:42:34,010 --> 01:42:38,370 February, beginning of March. And then I fill it out and I go out and I do all this things. 1435 01:42:38,530 --> 01:42:40,650 You do what you do. I don't have a plan. I don't have a plan. I don't have a plan. 1436 01:42:40,730 --> 01:42:48,350 I don't have a plan. I don't have a plan. But now in February March, I received nothing. 1437 01:42:49,370 --> 01:42:58,690 So now I need, as a taxpayer, I have to remember to do it. Or I'm not going to get the, the tax reduction, right? 1438 01:42:58,910 --> 01:43:02,430 Unless we do do something just to the how much people who qualified, 1439 01:43:03,870 --> 01:43:08,290 But over a period of time, you know, that's going to be a static number, right? 1440 01:43:08,290 --> 01:43:12,610 Because okay, in 2021, Ms. Duane Adams had a high mileage vehicle. 1441 01:43:13,310 --> 01:43:17,130 So, we're going to send it in 2022 and 20, instead of later, I get rid of that vehicle. 1442 01:43:17,410 --> 01:43:18,590 And I buy another one. 1443 01:43:19,210 --> 01:43:22,790 But now the responsibility is all falling to me to make sure that I tell the commissioners 1444 01:43:22,790 --> 01:43:25,950 office that I have a high mileage vehicle. 1445 01:43:25,990 --> 01:43:26,810 Am I right or wrong? 1446 01:43:27,030 --> 01:43:28,650 When you get a new vehicle, yes. 1447 01:43:29,170 --> 01:43:34,350 For just a little bit of some middle ground that would save the mailing, but maybe we could do something 1448 01:43:35,570 --> 01:43:36,410 Electronically it said 1449 01:43:37,050 --> 01:43:40,430 Where by if I want to make sure that I get notification don't forget 1450 01:43:40,950 --> 01:43:45,330 You can I can give you my email you can put it in something and you could just hit it 1451 01:43:45,330 --> 01:43:49,090 But can we is there something like a mess email type guys? 1452 01:43:49,270 --> 01:43:49,950 That's something we can easily 1453 01:43:56,600 --> 01:44:00,420 I'm just thinking maybe that's a maybe that's something we could do in an 1454 01:44:00,440 --> 01:44:01,820 That'll, which would. 1455 01:44:01,880 --> 01:44:05,120 Unless it's all for a cost, $35,000 in the end of the year. 1456 01:44:05,500 --> 01:44:07,860 But over the years, also. 1457 01:44:07,940 --> 01:44:09,200 And it's just a suggestion. 1458 01:44:10,360 --> 01:44:11,860 I'm good either way. 1459 01:44:12,100 --> 01:44:13,280 I think it's a great suggestion. 1460 01:44:13,280 --> 01:44:15,620 I'm just trying to work through the, yeah, we're just helping. 1461 01:44:16,420 --> 01:44:16,700 I should. 1462 01:44:17,240 --> 01:44:17,820 Excuse me. 1463 01:44:18,460 --> 01:44:19,200 Excuse me. 1464 01:44:20,620 --> 01:44:23,580 I think we can do some pretty heavy notifications as well. 1465 01:44:23,620 --> 01:44:26,640 I mean, notices in the paper for the high mileage thing as well. 1466 01:44:26,920 --> 01:44:28,240 You know, saving that kind of thing. 1467 01:44:29,180 --> 01:44:29,920 I get it. 1468 01:44:29,920 --> 01:44:33,200 But that doesn't have to be the only avenue, but you can hear them. 1469 01:44:33,620 --> 01:44:37,840 Saved in that kind of money, and you've got some wiggle room to spend some money on notifications 1470 01:44:38,440 --> 01:44:39,540 and still be a savings. 1471 01:44:41,300 --> 01:44:47,160 I thought this was something simple, but I was just not in my concern right now is if we 1472 01:44:47,160 --> 01:44:53,280 got all these concerns and questions and we keep up with budgets and how things have done 1473 01:44:53,280 --> 01:44:56,440 all the time, what is the general public going to do? 1474 01:44:56,440 --> 01:44:59,560 I think I'm going to be confused, maybe not, but... 1475 01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:19,080 We think you have a learning curve. Exactly. It's going to be a learning curve. You're going to have some people who are going to be confused. And I don't understand. It's a catch 2020. Some people are going to think it's great. And maybe they're the ones who don't change their vehicles often. And they have the same thing year after year after year. If they think it's done. 1476 01:45:30,380 --> 01:45:32,480 I was also moving to 21st century. 1477 01:45:33,420 --> 01:45:35,600 That was my foot in as I mean. 1478 01:45:35,840 --> 01:45:36,160 We're changing. 1479 01:45:37,540 --> 01:45:38,260 We're making up. 1480 01:45:38,400 --> 01:45:42,680 Maybe we moved to 21st century after we do our fiber bill now. 1481 01:45:44,420 --> 01:45:45,780 I'm like Mr. Gentry. 1482 01:45:45,920 --> 01:45:48,700 I mean, you know, on the face of it, it looks really, really simple. 1483 01:45:50,720 --> 01:45:53,020 But I need to complicated this. 1484 01:45:53,100 --> 01:45:57,600 No, you actually asked really, you know, they were spot on questions. 1485 01:45:57,600 --> 01:46:06,180 And my concern is that we're shifting the burden of proof to the citizens. 1486 01:46:06,660 --> 01:46:08,160 You're shifting the burden of notice. 1487 01:46:08,180 --> 01:46:12,880 Well, OK, the burden of notice, but you're still the proof for you to give them the tax relief. 1488 01:46:14,460 --> 01:46:19,640 And you know, gosh, I don't think I can support it. 1489 01:46:19,880 --> 01:46:24,740 I'm assuming that the website will be very descriptive also. 1490 01:46:24,740 --> 01:46:32,080 So people, if they got confused or learned about this, they could always take a go to that to be informed 1491 01:46:32,820 --> 01:46:37,780 To be, and then that going to the website might confuse them more, but so then they could have somebody to contact 1492 01:46:38,460 --> 01:46:41,380 So sort of, you know, shake out the police. 1493 01:46:42,120 --> 01:46:42,480 Yes. 1494 01:46:42,620 --> 01:46:42,980 Yes. 1495 01:46:42,980 --> 01:46:43,760 I like this open policy. 1496 01:46:43,960 --> 01:46:44,800 I'm going to see it then by us here. 1497 01:46:44,900 --> 01:46:45,080 I'm ready. 1498 01:46:45,180 --> 01:46:46,480 I'm ready to do that. 1499 01:46:46,560 --> 01:46:47,060 Any other questions? 1500 01:46:47,360 --> 01:46:47,720 Okay. 1501 01:46:48,320 --> 01:46:53,280 This time I like to open up the public hearing and anyone who would like to come speak, 1502 01:46:54,720 --> 01:47:00,340 Please come up and state your name, your address and your voting district. 1503 01:47:00,520 --> 01:47:05,740 You'll have three minutes to speak and I'll let you know when you have 15 seconds to speak. 1504 01:47:06,080 --> 01:47:06,160 Left. 1505 01:47:07,860 --> 01:47:16,440 Looking over the vast array, I see no one stepping up, yes, Mr. Lucas, come right on. 1506 01:47:17,340 --> 01:47:18,320 Good to see you here. 1507 01:47:18,320 --> 01:47:18,720 Well, 1508 01:47:22,750 --> 01:47:24,890 I'm just not starting an album on camera. 1509 01:47:25,110 --> 01:47:26,010 I do know that, sir. 1510 01:47:26,170 --> 01:47:27,910 But that guy did not know that. 1511 01:47:28,330 --> 01:47:29,510 That's one point out. 1512 01:47:29,590 --> 01:47:31,730 The fact that there's a band, my name is Steve Lucas, 1513 01:47:32,090 --> 01:47:34,730 I'm a little mom, a wiser road, and the Patrick Henry district. 1514 01:47:35,230 --> 01:47:36,250 And I still have a football. 1515 01:47:37,590 --> 01:47:41,730 I'm not a high tech guy in some ways, but I do hate having files, 1516 01:47:41,970 --> 01:47:45,550 full of yellow and green papers, stuck in the file cabinets, 1517 01:47:46,010 --> 01:47:47,750 having to pop on my desk. 1518 01:47:48,330 --> 01:47:50,730 And I look at them and I say, I got to do something with them. 1519 01:47:50,730 --> 01:47:53,970 get stuck in files and get stuck plays that are never seen again. 1520 01:47:54,450 --> 01:47:58,290 And if we can save $30,000, I'm off for it. 1521 01:47:58,330 --> 01:48:01,250 And I think we need to approach this, logically, 1522 01:48:01,950 --> 01:48:04,270 got a lot of older folks in here who have footphones, 1523 01:48:05,350 --> 01:48:07,530 or older folks who have smartphones now. 1524 01:48:07,890 --> 01:48:08,830 They would have to follow me. 1525 01:48:09,150 --> 01:48:11,730 But anyway, I think you need to seriously look at what 1526 01:48:11,730 --> 01:48:13,110 a sweatshirt has presented. 1527 01:48:13,910 --> 01:48:15,830 And I think it's a good thing for Louise the County to do. 1528 01:48:15,970 --> 01:48:16,390 Thank you, Jim. 1529 01:48:16,470 --> 01:48:17,370 Thank you very much. 1530 01:48:18,430 --> 01:48:22,410 Is there anyone else who would like to come up with the speaker you don't have to be as eloquent? 1531 01:48:22,510 --> 01:48:23,390 You just have to go stay. 1532 01:48:26,390 --> 01:48:28,770 You should come up by saying that. 1533 01:48:29,250 --> 01:48:30,730 Anyone else would like to speak on this? 1534 01:48:31,670 --> 01:48:31,690 Okay. 1535 01:48:31,870 --> 01:48:34,070 At this time I like to close the public hearing. 1536 01:48:34,890 --> 01:48:35,310 Let's share. 1537 01:48:37,180 --> 01:48:38,320 We approve this. 1538 01:48:38,600 --> 01:48:45,660 But with the caveat that we offer some sort of a blended work in it in system over some time, 1539 01:48:45,660 --> 01:48:50,160 even if we did mailings again in this spring and with notices or something like that. 1540 01:48:50,160 --> 01:48:52,460 So I move to proof. 1541 01:48:52,860 --> 01:48:54,420 And I agree with Tony. 1542 01:48:55,380 --> 01:48:57,520 I think it's something that we can kind of face. 1543 01:48:58,220 --> 01:49:02,100 Not do a shot to the system, but just. 1544 01:49:02,160 --> 01:49:03,040 We got no smart people. 1545 01:49:03,180 --> 01:49:04,000 We figured out how to get it. 1546 01:49:04,000 --> 01:49:04,840 We're figure it out. 1547 01:49:05,080 --> 01:49:05,120 Okay. 1548 01:49:05,320 --> 01:49:06,240 I'm asking a second. 1549 01:49:06,940 --> 01:49:07,480 Any discussion? 1550 01:49:08,160 --> 01:49:08,700 On favor? 1551 01:49:09,540 --> 01:49:10,040 Any opposed? 1552 01:49:11,280 --> 01:49:12,160 Thank you. 1553 01:49:12,440 --> 01:49:14,060 And you're up for round two. 1554 01:49:14,300 --> 01:49:16,060 I am up for round two. 1555 01:49:16,260 --> 01:49:18,980 When the board adopted the tax relief 1556 01:49:18,980 --> 01:49:25,160 change and the net worth and may have this year from 100,000 to 200,000. 1557 01:49:25,520 --> 01:49:28,640 It just was added to the end of the sliding scale. 1558 01:49:28,920 --> 01:49:32,660 I believe I sent everybody a sliding scale to have a copy or a little down it. 1559 01:49:34,060 --> 01:49:41,180 Instead of having it kind of stretched out across the whole scheme of financial work. 1560 01:49:41,700 --> 01:49:47,860 And I was just suggesting that maybe we take a look at that to kind of make it more even across the whole thing. 1561 01:49:47,860 --> 01:49:55,480 excuse me. The whole scale, as opposed to just making the 75 to 200,000 at the end, the same 1562 01:49:55,480 --> 01:50:00,200 percentage for the people who fell within that category. 1563 01:50:02,760 --> 01:50:03,360 Questions? 1564 01:50:04,220 --> 01:50:10,840 Tom, we got one. When I looked at this, because I didn't have the advantage of the previous 1565 01:50:10,840 --> 01:50:16,860 table from last year, did you get what I sent? I did, I got... 1566 01:50:16,860 --> 01:50:19,320 It's just not the packet. It just wasn't an 1567 01:50:19,320 --> 01:50:23,960 packet, but he got it. Okay, but I emailed last time. Right, you got that. 1568 01:50:23,960 --> 01:50:28,760 What my question was, basically, what is the difference in 1569 01:50:28,760 --> 01:50:39,780 I understand the percentages, you know, how that works as your net 1570 01:50:39,780 --> 01:50:46,200 goes down. I mean, that's pretty clear. But what is the change that you're talking about 1571 01:50:46,200 --> 01:50:49,840 between this and 1572 01:50:52,470 --> 01:50:53,370 what we had later? 1573 01:50:53,790 --> 01:50:56,730 Cut's off. It's from 100,000 up, didn't it? 1574 01:50:57,750 --> 01:51:04,830 Okay. Well, the scales up, your time about the scale that if what it was changed to in May 1575 01:51:04,830 --> 01:51:13,630 and they it was adopted to increase the financial worth versus if it was calculated based 1576 01:51:13,630 --> 01:51:16,570 on the suggested scale. Is that your question? 1577 01:51:19,130 --> 01:51:21,470 No, that's your question. 1578 01:51:24,350 --> 01:51:29,710 In other words, I guess what my question is. I understand where 1579 01:51:29,710 --> 01:51:33,390 you implementing the sliding scale, which you have, 1580 01:51:34,130 --> 01:51:37,710 that you're implementing the 150 to 200,000 1581 01:51:38,530 --> 01:51:40,490 at the end. 1582 01:51:44,100 --> 01:51:46,620 So it's really not a difference all of 1583 01:51:46,620 --> 01:51:48,580 then it's taking into account 1584 01:51:48,580 --> 01:51:53,820 that we up the max from 1,000 to 2,000. 1585 01:51:53,980 --> 01:51:55,400 If I'm understanding this, correct? 1586 01:51:56,300 --> 01:51:58,240 He's asking what the change is off from the code. 1587 01:51:58,760 --> 01:51:59,320 That's what he's asking. 1588 01:51:59,400 --> 01:51:59,880 What's the changes? 1589 01:51:59,880 --> 01:52:02,900 The changes of the code is just faithfully. 1590 01:52:03,180 --> 01:52:07,260 It's not changing what was adopted. 1591 01:52:08,000 --> 01:52:12,180 It's just changing the schedule, the scale. 1592 01:52:15,040 --> 01:52:18,480 If I can, I think you had a schedule that was based on the old amount. 1593 01:52:19,620 --> 01:52:23,060 And so now you have a new schedule that's based on the higher amount. 1594 01:52:23,240 --> 01:52:25,980 But the percentages are still, they've stayed the same. 1595 01:52:26,280 --> 01:52:27,720 That's up to Ms. Fletcher. 1596 01:52:29,320 --> 01:52:30,260 That's what I was saying. 1597 01:52:30,260 --> 01:52:34,220 How the percentages in the existing scale state are saying? 1598 01:52:34,800 --> 01:52:39,800 The percentages in the existing scale state that's saying of what was adopted earlier 1599 01:52:39,800 --> 01:52:40,360 that sheet. 1600 01:52:40,880 --> 01:52:41,160 Okay. 1601 01:52:42,660 --> 01:52:48,240 So, I mean if you, if you were looking, you started over 2,000 dollars and just, for instance, 1602 01:52:49,080 --> 01:52:55,800 if you were in the 70 to 100,000 range that should not work, then you get 80%. 1603 01:52:55,800 --> 01:52:56,180 Correct. 1604 01:52:56,220 --> 01:52:57,360 That hadn't changed. 1605 01:52:57,360 --> 01:53:01,880 Last year, I mean, before we did that, it was 80% of the fail. 1606 01:53:02,560 --> 01:53:02,580 Right. 1607 01:53:02,580 --> 01:53:03,660 Now it's 80% of the fail. 1608 01:53:03,740 --> 01:53:03,960 Right. 1609 01:53:04,080 --> 01:53:06,340 And it's not changing every category. 1610 01:53:07,240 --> 01:53:13,140 When I looked at it, compared to what people got in relief this year with the change versus 1611 01:53:13,620 --> 01:53:18,420 the suggested schedule change, the majority of the people stayed the same. 1612 01:53:19,140 --> 01:53:27,340 So this year, we had 449 applicants with the suggested scale, or 338, what is the number 1613 01:53:27,340 --> 01:53:32,180 state the same percentage regardless of the net worth across the top. 1614 01:53:32,340 --> 01:53:32,440 Right. 1615 01:53:32,600 --> 01:53:35,100 The percentage of state the same than it is what I'm 1616 01:53:35,100 --> 01:53:35,580 understanding. 1617 01:53:36,080 --> 01:53:39,020 The percentage of state the same pretty much. 1618 01:53:39,240 --> 01:53:47,060 There's a slight difference when you get to the 70 to 100,000 in the 1619 01:53:47,060 --> 01:53:49,900 18,000 to 29,000. 1620 01:53:50,080 --> 01:53:53,620 It went from 70 percent relief to 75 percent. 1621 01:53:55,020 --> 01:54:03,460 And then if you age 29 to 40,000, it went from 50 percent to 65 percent. 1622 01:54:04,660 --> 01:54:05,080 I'm sorry. 1623 01:54:05,080 --> 01:54:05,260 I'm sorry. 1624 01:54:05,340 --> 01:54:06,500 So I got that. 1625 01:54:06,500 --> 01:54:08,340 It got that in most cases. 1626 01:54:09,020 --> 01:54:10,260 That's all I wanted to hear. 1627 01:54:10,720 --> 01:54:13,000 People state that same or it got better. 1628 01:54:14,240 --> 01:54:15,540 We got a public hearing. 1629 01:54:16,440 --> 01:54:17,320 This time. 1630 01:54:17,980 --> 01:54:18,660 Thank you. 1631 01:54:18,880 --> 01:54:23,040 At this time, I would like to open public hearing on this subject. 1632 01:54:24,500 --> 01:54:29,020 invite anyone that wishes to come up and speak. You'll have three minutes. Please 1633 01:54:29,020 --> 01:54:32,900 state your name. You're address and you're voting district and we will let 1634 01:54:32,900 --> 01:54:39,200 you know when you have 15 seconds. Do I see anyone in the vast audience? I do not. 1635 01:54:39,600 --> 01:54:45,180 So we'll close the public comment period or public hearing. And I got a comment. 1636 01:54:49,060 --> 01:54:52,920 When I look back the years that I've been on this board, I think that this 1637 01:54:52,920 --> 01:54:59,660 actually for the elderly, and this same is probably the best thing that I can help remind 1638 01:54:59,660 --> 01:54:59,980 you. 1639 01:55:03,030 --> 01:55:04,150 But that's being said. 1640 01:55:05,170 --> 01:55:08,110 I was certainly making motion and we approve this. 1641 01:55:08,330 --> 01:55:09,410 There we have a motion. 1642 01:55:10,150 --> 01:55:11,330 We have a motion in a second. 1643 01:55:11,510 --> 01:55:12,210 Any more discussion? 1644 01:55:12,770 --> 01:55:13,370 Got a quick question. 1645 01:55:14,690 --> 01:55:18,750 When we went from 1,000 to 2,000, and you don't have to give me answers to that. 1646 01:55:18,930 --> 01:55:20,550 You can hear me every later on. 1647 01:55:21,010 --> 01:55:24,910 How many other additional people I heard your numbers are applicants? 1648 01:55:24,910 --> 01:55:30,010 But how many did some people did it help quite a far that they had before? 1649 01:55:30,890 --> 01:55:33,910 Well, we went from the financial work to 100th altitude to 200th. 1650 01:55:36,290 --> 01:55:36,410 Yeah. 1651 01:55:36,410 --> 01:55:37,190 I'll get back. 1652 01:55:37,490 --> 01:55:38,310 Yeah, I'll get back. 1653 01:55:38,310 --> 01:55:43,910 I want to say it may be because there was the time frame of getting the 1654 01:55:43,910 --> 01:55:46,950 superduty and getting people the knowledge that it had. 1655 01:55:47,130 --> 01:55:47,650 Understanding. 1656 01:55:48,250 --> 01:55:48,350 Yeah. 1657 01:55:48,830 --> 01:55:52,170 And understanding we probably had 10 more people who qualified. 1658 01:55:52,430 --> 01:55:53,290 We wouldn't have. 1659 01:55:54,910 --> 01:56:03,290 I think we'll see more people qualify at 22 because that information is going to be in their hands from the weekend. 1660 01:56:03,430 --> 01:56:08,090 And I don't think you had it tonight, but I'll just want to have many other people actually was helped. 1661 01:56:09,130 --> 01:56:09,190 Okay. 1662 01:56:09,190 --> 01:56:13,030 Okay, we have a motion and a second. Any other discussion on favor? 1663 01:56:14,450 --> 01:56:15,290 Any disapproval? 1664 01:56:15,790 --> 01:56:16,470 So moved. 1665 01:56:16,730 --> 01:56:18,050 But I can't hear it. 1666 01:56:18,270 --> 01:56:20,050 I guess that was, or German, yeah. 1667 01:56:20,410 --> 01:56:21,230 Okay, that's what I can't hear.