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Supervisors for January 6, January 7, 2025 to order. We have two members of the board participating remotely, and Patricia Fumm Correct. Do they have to state that they're participating remotely and where they are and why they're participating remotely? Am I correct on that?

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Yes, you are.

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Supervisors, Jones, could I ask you to state where you are and why you're participating remotely please?

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Yes, that's you. Where are you? Why are you just paying remotely? Very

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good. Thank you. Supervisor McCotter. Can I ask you to do the same?

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Yes, sir. I then floor up on a business trip. There's why I'm participating remotely.

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Thank you. I'm horrible. Please.

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That's right. That's right. Okay. Well, the first item on the agenda under the organizational meeting is a resolution to appoint the chairman of the Louisiana County Board of Supervisors for 2000 and 25.

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the floor is now open for nominations.

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Mr. Chair.

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Mr. Chair, I moved to nominate Mr. Duane Adams.

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All right.

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We've got a motion in a second to nominate Mr. Adams.

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Are there further nominations?

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Hearing none.

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The nominations are closed.

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And I believe this has to be a role call vote.

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So I'll just go around the table.

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Mr. Williams?

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Yes. Mr. Adams?

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Yes. Mr. Barlow?

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Yes.

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Mr. Barnes?

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Yes.

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Mr. Woodward, Mr. Jones, Mr. McCotter, the vote is unanimous.

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Congratulations, Mr. Chairman, the Gavillage Awards.

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Thank you.

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Well, thank you all.

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I appreciate your continued confidence.

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It's four years in a row, so hopefully we get through this year's smoothness.

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We've got through the last three.

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The next item is a resolution to point the Vice Chairman of the

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little ways of County Board of Supervisors for 2025.

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Mr. Jones.

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Mr. Jones.

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I moved to nominate Mr. Tomibolo.

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Second.

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All right.

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Nomination and second interpoint, Mr. Barlow,

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are there any other nominations?

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All right.

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Seeing none, nominations are closed.

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Again, this needs to be a roll call, though.

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Mr. Williams.

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Yes.

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Yes, Mr. Barlow.

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Yes.

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Mr. Barlow.

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Yes.

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Mr. Jones.

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Yes.

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Mr. McCarter.

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Yes.

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All right.

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Congratulations, Mr. Barnl.

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Thank you.

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Secretary.

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Secretary, is there a resolution established in the Board of Supervisors meeting dates and time,

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which has been given out ahead of time in a board packet?

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Is there a motion to approve that?

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It's so movement, Chairman.

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In property moved in second,

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that we approve the meeting dates and time for 2025 any discussion?

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All those in favor signify by saying aye.

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Any opposed?

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Mr. McCartner, did you vote?

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That's the one thing to do.

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Yes, sir.

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I did.

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Investors unanimously.

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Next is a resolution adopting the bylaws for the Board of Supervisors, which copies

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been provided ahead of time.

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It's been.

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Oh, my.

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Second.

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Been properly moved in second.

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We adopt the bylaws.

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Board of Supervisors for 2025.

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Any discussion?

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All those in favour of signify by saying aye.

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Any opposed motion passes unanimously.

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Next will be a motion by the vice chair to go into closed session.

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I move there with convening closed session pursuant to the following subsections of Virginia

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Code section 2.23711 in accordance with section 2.23711E3 discussion of consideration

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of the acquisition of real property for the public purpose or of disposition of publicly

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how real property or discussion in open meeting would adversely affect the bottom in position

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or negotiating strategies as a public body.

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Two, in accordance with Section 2.237, 1185, discussion concerning their prospective business

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or endosteric, or the expansion of existing business or endosteric in the Mountain Road District,

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or no previous announcement has been made of the business, when there's this interesting

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locating or expanding its facilities in the committee.

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Number three, in accordance with 2.237 11AEA consultation with legal counsel and fraud or

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retained by a public body regarding specific legal matters requiring the provisions

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of legal advice, but that's such a gas.

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You're second.

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Second.

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In property moves and saying we're going to close session in discussion, all those in favor

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of signify by saying aye.

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Aye.

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Any opposed motion passes unanimously.

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Mr. Makata, we're going to kill the live feed.

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At this point, and when we go into closed session, we'll call you directly and then bring

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you back on the meetings when we come back at six o'clock.

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The board is in closed session.

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All right, thank you.

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Mr. Chairman, I'm moving to go back into a session.

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It's been properly moved.

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Second, we go back into open section. All those in favor signify by saying aye.

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Any opposed?

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Motion passes. I will now pull members to certify that the best of your knowledge on a public

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Business Matters lawfully exempted from the open meeting requirements under the Virginia

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Freedom of Information Act and is identified in the motion for which the closed meeting was convened.

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We're discussed and considered by the Board.

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If any member believes in the board varied from the purpose of stated for the close meeting

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in the police state so in the reason prior to casting a vote, Mr. McCotter.

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Mrs. Jones.

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Mr. Williams.

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Yes.

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Mr. Barlow.

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Yes.

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Mr. Barnes.

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Yes.

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Mr. Woodward.

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All right.

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We're back into open session.

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I'd like to welcome those of you that are here in the public meeting room and those that are watching

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online.

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this is the first meeting of the Louise Accounting Board of Supervisors for 2025.

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Welcome to this meeting. Before we move into our administrative items, we do have Mr.

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McCotter who is joining us remotely and according to our by-laws, Mr. McCotter, would you

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tell us the reason that you're joining us remotely?

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Yes, I thought I would speak on a business trip.

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All right. Thank you, sir. We will start today's meeting as we do at the

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this evening's meeting of every meeting with the invocation and the

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pleasure of allegiance. The invocation tonight will be by Mr. Barnes. If you

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care to join us, please stand.

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Let us pray. Father God, I want to thank you for letting us see another year

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Father God. We ask you that 2021 and 25 be a good year for the board to do

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citizens. First I'd follow down best of our troops, that they're fighting for a

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nearer, that you protect them and keep them, but also best of citizens of the

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Louisiana County, while we make decisions that affect their lives and your

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name, we pray, amen. Amen.

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I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the

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as well with an empty and just as well.

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All right, thank you.

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Next is the adoption of the agenda.

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Mr. Williams?

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Yes.

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We have published a revised agenda for a night,

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so that some people that were coming to do some presentations

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didn't have to travel, and so that we could streamline the meeting

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tonight.

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So I move that we approve the revised agenda.

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In property moved in second, that we approve the revised agenda

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any discussion, all those in favour signify by saying aye, any opposed motion passes unanimously.

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Next is the approval of the minutes.

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So move, second.

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We've been property moved and second we approve the minutes from the December 2nd meeting any discussion, all those in favour signify by saying aye, any opposed motion passes unanimously.

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Next is the approval of the bills.

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So move, second.

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In property moved in second that we approve the bills any discussion all those in favor of signify by saying aye

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Motion passes unanimously next is the approval of the consent agenda

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So move

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In property moved in second that we approve the consent agenda all those in favor signify by saying aye

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All those opposed motion passes unanimously

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unanimously.

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Next is recognitions. We don't have any recognitions this evening. We do have

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our public comment period and I think we have some cards. We do have four public hearings tonight,

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so if you're here to discuss anything related to a public hearing, that would be the time that

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would want to do that. We do have a public comment submitted online for Mr. J. R.

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Stalin's, which will be submitted into the record and become part of the official record

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of the board. Is there any other individual that would wish to address the board during

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public comment period? All right. We'll move on. Next is information and discussion items

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And we do have one update there, and that's Mr. Goodman.

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Well, we haven't unmuted yet.

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Okay, and did Ms.

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Has been started to signify to anybody that she wanted to speak during public comment period.

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She has not.

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She has not.

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I don't do that.

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Oh, maybe I maybe your hand is up there.

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Missed her.

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I've seen you there a little emoji.

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I apologize.

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Mrs. Hart.

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You got to unmute yourself.

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There we go.

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Thank goodness.

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Okay.

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You thought you could get away.

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I don't remember.

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I hope we could get away.

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Yeah.

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There is a difference.

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Thank you.

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Fickey hard.

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Town of Louisa.

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Three eleven club route.

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I have a question regarding.

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And this.

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I was not able to attend the last meeting.

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So you'll have to bear with me.

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You amended the bylaws for the.

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county board of supervisors and my question is there's a lot in here about the behavior

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of residents towards any board of supervisor member, but there is nothing about the behavior

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of any board of supervisor member to a resident of the county.

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I'm just questioning why it's one way in the discussion in there and there is nothing

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stated anything about comments made by a board to supervise your regarding a resident.

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Also, that's enough.

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That's good.

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Thank you.

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Thank you, Miss Hart.

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Well, this is news.

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Let me see.

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I guess I got it.

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I like that.

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New upgrade for 2025.

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I like that.

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Is there any other individual that like to address the board during public comment period?

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All right, seeing that, we'll move on then.

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Under information and discussion items,

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we do have an update on regional transmission projects

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impacting the county and Mr. Goodman, I believe that you.

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Sure thing, thank you Mr. Chairman and members of the board.

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Just a brief update for you this evening.

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I'm going to draw your attention to packet page 93.

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If you have a moment to turn to that.

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There is an entity called the PGM that oversees

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the provisioning of electrical services in the region that includes Virginia, and that's

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several states as well as Virginia, and they go through an open window process for transmission

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projects.

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And essentially what they do during that process is ensure that demands are met by available transmission

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infrastructure and available generation infrastructure.

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So, the county doesn't have a formal role in this process and PGMs role is basically it's

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high level right now, you know, they're essentially saying what we all generally know

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and that is there is a great draw for power along the north and eastern parts of Virginia

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with data center development in northern Virginia, continue electrification of vehicles, there

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is available power to transmit to those needs in the future and we're talking about a multi-year

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window in kind of a south and west and those are very generally speaking, but they have

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over the past several months been looking through ideas for moving power up to the areas

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that need the power. And one of those potential solutions for transmitting power may impact the

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And that is in the graphic that's included on page 93.

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It appears, when you look at it, if you look at the map, you're going to say, well,

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they don't have labels on here for county boundaries.

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They don't have interstates.

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The place is labeled on the map, just use substation names.

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So it's a little difficult to tell exactly where things are.

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And that's because this is still very much at a high level planning stage.

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It hasn't gone to the SEC or anything like that.

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But they are the entity that looks at projects and potential projects that would meet needs and then sends those projects to the SEC going forward.

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So, what they are focused on in this region this year is the development of 765 kW which are bigger than the current lines that are in the county.

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And the rough route of that line would parallel the existing 500 KV line that kind of runs roughly up the eastern side of the county from Vante up towards the power plant.

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So if that project were approved and it moved forward, it could follow a route that may parallel that could change.

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But given the fact that there's already a line there, it could parallel that and involve some additional acreage along the side of that.

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some additional footage along the side of that existing route.

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The timeline for the process, their board will meet and decide on final recommendations

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later in the first quarter of this year.

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It would then go to the SEC like lay in 2026 construction on anything that the SEC approved

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would take place probably in the early 2030s, but I just want to bring your attention to this right now.

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We don't have a formal role at this point.

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Again, it's very high level or a planning oriented,

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but it could impact the county,

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and that is a potential direct impact

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that it could have to the county.

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So I welcome any questions that you may have.

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I'm not smart enough.

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This is not my area of expertise.

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I'm just trying to stay on top of this

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so that I can keep you all and anyone else apprised.

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And I'm happy to get information on anything

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that you need to know that I cannot answer directly.

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Anybody have any comments?

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I do.

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I mean, looking at the very generalized,

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very generalized map that they've given out.

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I have some concerns about these transmission lines coming across.

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I have some really serious concerns about, sorry about that.

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I have some really serious concerns about it crossing the historic green springs.

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It's probably a county area.

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It's probably a county, it's a eastern area.

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Is it the eastern end of the county?

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Yeah, about taste and hand over.

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Okay, so this won't be coming through.

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Is there a green springs?

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It doesn't look that way, but I will tell you I spent two and a half hours on one of their communities.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah

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What they had provided to me in advance of today's meeting look like it was going to stay in the eastern side of the county, and I think that is going to

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Again today they provided this to you. Okay, where we are right now. I mean, it hasn't been finalized yet

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But I'm very interested in exactly where it's going to be as well

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And if you ask PJM these kinds of detail questions that both you and I and anyone else would have

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They say we're not in the business of telling you where lines are going to be located

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That is up to the entity building the line and you all as a local government at that point if the SEC approves a project

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So I would I would share your concerns just like everyone else does

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They will tell you we are just engineers looking for

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To supply power needs with power generation. Yeah, I understand that I just I hope it stays on the eastern end and doesn't cross and come through

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Historic lands and even and I know Tony just looked at me when I said that

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But, you know, farm land too, you know, we need to protect what we have here.

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Well, the other thing you need to understand is that, I think it's actually a butts the piece that I live on, and when they built the power plants that...

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Bill 1 and 2, they started building 3 and most of the 500 KV lines that you see running around here, there's enough

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easement for 2,500 KV lines, because they were supposed to be raptor 3 and 4 and they were never built.

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So, most of the high voltage lines that you see, 500 KVs, most of those easements are probably large enough for 2, it's only got developed for 1.

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They've talked about that a little bit and I think the way they characterize potential additional space needs

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is variable because in some areas it's wide enough in some areas they would need additional

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but I think if if entities were to move forward with that development their preference

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would be to parallel or stay within that existing easement as you said Mr. Williams.

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But it's actually what role will the county have as we move through this process? I mean I know

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It should 2030, 20, 30, 20, 30, 20, 35.

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There it comes.

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But...

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A couple.

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I mean, anyone who wants to tune in at this point to PJM's efforts can do so.

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And I mean, the type of input that we're talking about now, they typically...

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I don't want to say they squalch it or they should.

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Because they don't.

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They welcome it, but their response is always...

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We don't talk down at that level.

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Yeah, no, but when we get to that level.

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So, the next step will be the SEC. Obviously, there will be ample public comment and county comment opportunities at the SEC level.

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And then if the SEC does decide to approve a project, then the county, as I understand, we'll have a seat at the table with the constructing entity to decide on exact footprints and routes and things like that.

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So, multi-year process, more potential for involvement going forward.

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Well, as Mr. Williams said, and what my hope is, and you and I have talked about this in the past,

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is the least disruptive route for any of these lines, and I'm sure they're going to be built,

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as obviously there need for electricity continues to grow, is to either use the existing easements or

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parallel the existing easements, because those are already in place. All right, anything else? Thank you, sir.

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Under end finish business. We don't have anything on the agenda. I got a couple of things. I wanted to add

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Mr. Mr. McAdder as I say. Oh, I'm sorry.

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Go ahead, sir.

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Okay, real quick.

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The way I looked at that map, we were going to be using existing easements.

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I think I should revise the way it's noted.

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As well as you did, Chairman.

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My question is probably what most of the constituents are wanting.

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How do they, how are they made aware?

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or happen they make themselves aware of this process of when these decisions will be made

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how they can participate in it or we're just going to wait and see and then we'll just

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think that information to them, is there a way that staff can find out how constituents

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can be made aware? Yeah, they can certainly follow along with P.J.M.'s process. That information

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is publicly available that committee's meetings and I will put some information together

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and we can share that so that people are able to follow along themselves as well as the

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great points are.

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Thank you.

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Mr. McHodder, you may have to call out as well because it's a little icon when you raise

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your hand as extremely small.

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So I apologize I didn't see that.

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Under unfinished business we actually don't have anything but a couple of things I

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today to today due to the weather. We have tried to accommodate people with our public

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hearings today. We have three different options for people to weigh in on public hearings

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whether they're in person, whether they want to submit something in writing or we do have

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an option for a team's meeting or a Zoom. We'll go through that when we get to the public

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So that people can participate and we've taken all that into consideration to try to make tonight's meeting as accessible as possible.

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I'd also like to give a shout out to the County staff, Mr. Goodwin, and his staff to Mr. Wolfok and his staff in general services for getting the facilities ready and the facilities open.

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I know that we're getting the polls open today, it was a election day, and I also wanted

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to follow up on something that I asked staff to look into at the last meeting, and it

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would be appropriate to talk about it or mention it now.

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That is, there has been a question about emergency weather shelters by churches and things

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in the county, and we do know that there is a zoning issue, and staff is looking at the

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an issue. And I just wanted to be clear that my intent, speaking for myself, my intent,

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was that we find a way that we can work with existing religious organizations that if

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there's a need for temporary housing emergency shelters, especially in a event like we just

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had, that we can work through to find a way to get everybody in compliance. And I think

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there I received some phone calls and I think some people were confused about what the intent

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there. I personally think that's probably one of the

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colleagues of the church is to provide shelter for people

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when they're there. So as we work through that process, I just

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wanted to make sure that my intentions were clear.

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We'll go to reports of officers, boards, and standing committees. I

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don't know that we have any committee reports. Do we have any

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committee reports to see? Yes, sir.

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I just, it's not really a committee report, but I had a

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the graduation of 11 EMT. Graduates held a leg on a rescue and the class was taught by

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Jen Ford and whoever she had assisting her. Anyway, it just shows that there's an awful

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lot of time involved with these most of them were young kids, but there were some from

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the county is taking the EMT training and they've got over two hundred and five hours of

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class time in that and that doesn't include clinical time or their study time or travel time

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and that's the so to think that somebody is volunteering two hundred and five hours of peace for

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He's a loving graduate, I think he's pretty there going commendable and I'm in discussion

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with Jen forward and I would maybe like to get them to come to one of our meetings so

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we can express that appreciation in a resolution for something like that.

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We haven't worked that out yet, but it's just amazing the amount of time that they're putting

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forth into these things and I suspect a lot of these young people will end up being

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creased there for Louisa at some point. So it's just a awful lot of time being put

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in it. I wasn't aware of that you could attend. I was supposed to attend. I had

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whatever was going around that night and I had to not attend so I'm glad you were

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I just like to follow up with that, I had the opportunity on the flip side, some of those young people who, maybe not directly in that class, but other classes, have put to the professional side, and I had the pleasure of attending our graduation on the professional staff side right before Christmas, and that was, we had promotions that day, and we had was it 18 graduate, Mr. Goodwin.

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Yes.

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H and graduate, some of those Mr. Goodman and I got to speak at the event at the graduation

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and a lot of them were young people that have made that step.

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So it's exciting that there's the pipeline is there for that.

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I was just speaking this week into another young lady who's got to graduate from Louisiana

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and she wants to go into that career path and she's taking classes now and I would like

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to come to Louisiana one day.

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So I think that's pretty awesome.

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I also just have something very quickly for the committee.

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It has to do with the chamber.

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The chamber just to brief update on the chamber and their meetings.

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They have some events coming up on January 21st.

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They have leadership, Luisa, on the 22nd.

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They have a business forum coming up and all of this is posted on their website.

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They also have some ribbon cuttings and they have a very active January ahead of the chamber

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of commerce.

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So, they are busy working for our businesses in our community.

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Mr. Chair, just briefly would like to give y'all a recap of the Commission on Aging's Christmas function, her dinner luncheon.

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Just under 200 folks attendle, certainly appreciate supervisor Jones, supervisor Barlow,

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and a really special thank you and appreciation to Supervisor Barnes for providing such a great meal for us.

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And I think everybody had a good time. It was my first one to attend.

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And I was very impressed. It was a really nice turnout and a nice event.

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It was a live band.

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It was a live band who was awesome.

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Yes.

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Yeah.

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Everyone else?

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All right.

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Moving on to board appointments this week.

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Mr. Chairman.

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I think I have two tonight.

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I got on the water 30 David Keys.

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I'd like to read point him.

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I think he expired in the November.

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And evidently we have opening on the board of building appeals.

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I'd like to point Jeff luck to have.

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Okay.

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Any other appointments?

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Yes.

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Yes.

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also one reappointment and one new appointment. Water Authority, I'd like to reappoint

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by a party. I think everybody sitting here certainly knows. And would like to appoint

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Susan Fletcher to the Commission on Aging is the Louise of District Representative.

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Okay. Is that a new appointment for...

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For the Association of Aging?

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Yeah, it is. It should be should do good there.

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Let's go ahead. Any other appointments?

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All right, can I have one motion for all those?

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It is one motion.

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That's the second.

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And perhaps we've moved in second to the, we make these four appointments in a discussion

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all those in favor of signify by saying aye, any opposed motion passes unanimously.

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Preation of the staff of the last 48, 72 hours whenever we started counting, it was

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whether event always is a different set of challenges for us and I'm always super proud of our team

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response.

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So, law enforcement, dispatch, fire and emergency services, all the folks who've never stopped

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general services parks and wrecks staff who worked around the clock and got us here today.

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They really do great work.

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We are going to open it 1030 tomorrow, just a little last melting for the parking lots and

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the sidewalks outside just to make sure it's safe for the public to get into the buildings.

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And we're watching another potential weather system for the weekend.

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So we'll keep you posted on that and everybody be safe out there.

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It can't be spent operating the airport now for a few months.

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We had talked about an airport advisory board.

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I'd encourage the board to be thinking about that.

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We have some structuring recommendations for the board to consider,

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so please be on the lookout for those coming up soon.

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And last but certainly not least,

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we continue to be negotiating with the Center for Genie

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about moving publications back to the local paper.

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They are switching to a different system

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for taking online advertisements starting on the 9th of January.

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So assuming that goes well, we haven't talked to them in the last week or so.

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But assuming that goes well, we would start publications for the February 3rd.

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Board of Supervisors meeting and the February 13th planning commission meetings.

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So the advertisements for the 3rd Board of Supervisors meeting would be on Thursday the 16th of January

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And Thursday the 23rd of January for public hearings and for the planning commission would start January the 30th and February the 6th

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So that February 13th meeting. I know that's a slew of dates, but essentially that means that assuming their systems which went well and that takes place on the 9th of January

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We will start in January moving our advertisements back to the CV and I'm excited about that. It'll be great. Thank you, thank you

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Any questions for Mr. Goodman?

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Thank you, sir. All right. We'll move on to public hearings. We do have four public hearings.

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This evening, the first is an ordinance to approve proposed amendments, chapter 86,

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land development regulations, Article 1, General provisions, Article 2, zoning ordinance and

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maps, Article 3, subdivision, Article 4, supplementary regulations, and Article 5, signs, phase

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one, ordinance 2024-11, which is about to

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have you do here.

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Public hearing, we have receiving our report proposed amendments to chapter 86 plan development.

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Regulations includes article 1, general provisions, article 2, zoning ordinance, and maps,

473
01:28:49,800 --> 01:28:56,360
article 3 subdivision, article 4 supplementary, supplementary regulations, and article 5 signs.

474
01:28:56,360 --> 01:29:02,340
The proposed amendments are intended to address discrepancy, clarify regulations, insure

475
01:29:02,340 --> 01:29:08,040
alignment with more stringent, federal and state regulations, update standards to reflect

476
01:29:08,040 --> 01:29:13,260
current practices and make adjustments based on the community needs and the 244 comprehensive

477
01:29:13,260 --> 01:29:13,940
plan.

478
01:29:14,660 --> 01:29:24,560
They are also intended to improve efficiency of the ordinances by removing conflicts and outdated

479
01:29:24,560 --> 01:29:29,640
amendments are on pages two hundred and sixteen through two twenty six in your

480
01:29:29,640 --> 01:29:35,640
board packet. Just quickly I'm going to briefly go through these under eighty six

481
01:29:35,640 --> 01:29:40,580
thirteen definitions. We have amended bed and breakfast to increase stays from

482
01:29:40,580 --> 01:29:46,700
five nights to seven nights. Underbuilding setback line added language that the

483
01:29:46,700 --> 01:29:51,200
lot also has to meet them in a lot with requirement. We've added a new definition

484
01:29:51,200 --> 01:29:56,080
For food truck, we have removed food truck from the at-enerent vendor definition.

485
01:29:57,080 --> 01:29:59,980
Under minimum lot area, we have amended that to clear.

486
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:11,060
There are five that the lot area is exclusive of any rights of way areas or easements. Lot with, we've added clarification that if the lot with does not

487
01:30:11,060 --> 01:30:17,140
met at the building setback that the front setback becomes the point on the lot where the lot with is met.

488
01:30:17,920 --> 01:30:28,200
Under special advertising signs, we've included coming soon signs, which are at a nine square foot limit with 14 days, but no permit is required.

489
01:30:28,200 --> 01:30:38,060
Under temporary sign we have also added coming soon signs increase the length of time to 90 days and a sign permit is required.

490
01:30:39,840 --> 01:30:52,260
Section 8644 we've removed the requirement for conditional use permit for any sewer system designed to contain a point source discharge as this is regulated by the state and federal provisions.

491
01:30:53,040 --> 01:31:03,080
We have relocated section 86404, both area, overlays districts to be near the growth area

492
01:31:03,080 --> 01:31:07,780
overlay standards right now. They're currently in two different sections of the ordinance

493
01:31:07,780 --> 01:31:13,900
so they're not beside each other so it makes it difficult when explaining and directing people

494
01:31:13,900 --> 01:31:22,180
to those regulations. There are amendments to 86109, the use matrix which will be amended

495
01:31:22,180 --> 01:31:28,660
to reflect changes that are being proposed with these amendments, which is the inclusion of

496
01:31:28,660 --> 01:31:35,460
food truck as a separate use, which would be allowed in all of the zoning districts by

497
01:31:35,460 --> 01:31:37,780
right except the residential zoning districts.

498
01:31:39,820 --> 01:31:51,680
We've also removed the word residential from in front of accessory structures in the

499
01:31:51,680 --> 01:31:58,940
zoning district language, none of the other zoning districts include the word residential in front of accessory structures.

500
01:32:00,900 --> 01:32:12,420
Under Article 3 subdivisions we have included provisions that require third party review inspection and certification of road plans within subdivisions.

501
01:32:12,680 --> 01:32:17,340
And that would be for both new public and private road subdivisions.

502
01:32:17,340 --> 01:32:24,020
and the developer would be responsible for any calls associated with that third-party review

503
01:32:24,020 --> 01:32:29,480
inspection and certification and we've also included language from the Code of Virginia

504
01:32:29,480 --> 01:32:34,240
regarding the dedication of right-of-way and the county's obligation for installation and maintenance

505
01:32:34,240 --> 01:32:35,200
of improvements.

506
01:32:37,910 --> 01:32:46,990
Sections 86-570 and 571 have been amended to provide for county notification to a joining or

507
01:32:46,990 --> 01:32:49,150
protected property owners for any development

508
01:32:49,150 --> 01:32:51,870
proposing to utilize a sewage system design

509
01:32:51,870 --> 01:32:53,790
to have a point source discharge.

510
01:32:54,370 --> 01:32:58,090
They do receive notification from DEQ,

511
01:32:58,250 --> 01:33:00,070
but this is an additional notification

512
01:33:00,910 --> 01:33:03,350
that the county would provide to a

513
01:33:03,350 --> 01:33:04,990
joining or effective property owners.

514
01:33:05,890 --> 01:33:11,090
For, in subdivisions, 86-6-14 final plats,

515
01:33:11,550 --> 01:33:15,090
we've included a provision that the final subdivision

516
01:33:15,090 --> 01:33:20,990
flat must show whether a lot is being served by a conventional or alternative drain

517
01:33:20,990 --> 01:33:32,690
field system and sections 86, 626, 627, 627, 628 and 637 for site plan reviews with

518
01:33:32,690 --> 01:33:38,830
added clarification that the transmittal middle of those plans to state agencies is

519
01:33:38,830 --> 01:33:44,190
for review and comment only. We've updated the erosion and sediment control plan

520
01:33:44,190 --> 01:33:51,310
approval authority as the county, ENS administrator, and it provides again for

521
01:33:51,310 --> 01:33:55,110
notification to a joining our effective property owners for development,

522
01:33:55,270 --> 01:33:57,130
proposing a point source discharge.

523
01:33:58,370 --> 01:34:04,290
And then under Article 5 signs, we increase the maximum size of the temporary

524
01:34:04,290 --> 01:34:07,990
sign allowed in the commercial industrial resort development and

525
01:34:07,990 --> 01:34:15,870
in development districts from 16 square feet to 32 square feet. And as I indicated previously

526
01:34:15,870 --> 01:34:21,290
the length of time that a temporary sign may be in place has been adjusted in the definitions.

527
01:34:22,690 --> 01:34:27,210
And that are all of the proposed amendments under what we are calling phase one.

528
01:34:28,830 --> 01:34:34,090
There will be more forthcoming. Anybody have any questions for Mrs. Butler? Yes, what's

529
01:34:34,090 --> 01:34:37,730
including phase two, a lot?

530
01:34:38,710 --> 01:34:40,370
Not about the same.

531
01:34:41,230 --> 01:34:44,530
OK, as you're considering phase two, it's not

532
01:34:44,530 --> 01:34:45,950
your main to phase one today.

533
01:34:47,450 --> 01:34:49,230
There's an electronic sign that just

534
01:34:49,230 --> 01:34:51,770
got put up in the district, and quite frankly,

535
01:34:51,790 --> 01:34:55,430
we don't have any things for existing stores.

536
01:34:55,910 --> 01:34:58,770
There's no commercial and business land or anything.

537
01:34:58,770 --> 01:35:09,230
And the electronic sign, when it has certain tones and colors on it, can be seen from about three quarters of my life.

538
01:35:10,390 --> 01:35:18,010
And it seems to me that in some of these outlying egg districts, maybe we want to be considered of that,

539
01:35:18,190 --> 01:35:21,610
and maybe think about that as we move forward.

540
01:35:21,790 --> 01:35:26,110
These electronic signs have a blayer to them.

541
01:35:26,110 --> 01:35:27,850
And that's the best word I come up with.

542
01:35:27,990 --> 01:35:32,750
That's not a word I don't think, but it's a, it blast that light out there.

543
01:35:33,650 --> 01:35:38,350
It just, it permeates, especially when they put a bunch of whites in it.

544
01:35:38,570 --> 01:35:40,170
It's just, it's a glow.

545
01:35:41,510 --> 01:35:48,210
I'm going to back Tony, yep, because that, that we do have two signs that are very blinding

546
01:35:48,210 --> 01:35:54,630
in the Green Springs district, one is two, but two of my churches in agricultural areas.

547
01:35:54,750 --> 01:35:55,830
Is this yours a church?

548
01:35:55,830 --> 01:35:56,530
Yeah.

549
01:35:56,590 --> 01:35:58,170
I'll get another example.

550
01:35:58,410 --> 01:35:58,670
Yeah.

551
01:35:59,150 --> 01:36:03,930
And it's in agricultural area and it's just, you can see it for miles and it is blinding

552
01:36:03,930 --> 01:36:05,970
and one is on 15 and it's blinding to drivers.

553
01:36:06,510 --> 01:36:10,570
They're not using that one as much anymore but it was rough.

554
01:36:10,750 --> 01:36:13,750
The other one is Zion over in Zion.

555
01:36:14,470 --> 01:36:14,830
I'm sorry.

556
01:36:14,970 --> 01:36:16,570
That's not your main to what we're talking about.

557
01:36:17,050 --> 01:36:19,230
We need to do something though with it.

558
01:36:19,370 --> 01:36:20,170
Is it on our radar?

559
01:36:20,470 --> 01:36:22,570
We will certainly look into those requirements.

560
01:36:23,790 --> 01:36:26,310
Mr. Chairman. Yes, sir. Mr. Buckler.

561
01:36:26,790 --> 01:36:33,170
My understanding is the section of this that was changed concerning developers having

562
01:36:33,170 --> 01:36:43,310
to provide the road studies on their property, including in Gressany Gress. That's because

563
01:36:43,310 --> 01:36:49,710
of V dot's change in their policy mainly where they have gone away from that, I guess they

564
01:36:49,710 --> 01:36:56,770
they just laid it that out, sometime ago, and so for us to have that done, it needs to come

565
01:36:57,350 --> 01:37:00,850
from the developer sending you your verses to you.

566
01:37:04,470 --> 01:37:10,650
The language has been amended that we won't need to give you as approval to move forward

567
01:37:10,650 --> 01:37:11,630
with our process.

568
01:37:11,790 --> 01:37:16,890
So we'll still send it to V dot for review and comment, however, we don't need V dot approval

569
01:37:16,890 --> 01:37:22,150
because it has been told to us by VDOT that they will not approve these plans anymore.

570
01:37:23,090 --> 01:37:26,470
So because it was that eyes we couldn't move forward. VDOT wasn't going to change.

571
01:37:26,990 --> 01:37:32,370
We just needed to make those updates in the code to reflect it and approval isn't required

572
01:37:32,370 --> 01:37:33,230
for us to move forward.

573
01:37:33,470 --> 01:37:33,850
That's wonderful.

574
01:37:34,110 --> 01:37:34,590
Thank you.

575
01:37:34,990 --> 01:37:39,290
Mr. Chairman, Mr. Coon, I seem, since they won't be approving it, then they won't

576
01:37:39,290 --> 01:37:41,070
be disproving them either.

577
01:37:41,390 --> 01:37:41,650
Correct.

578
01:37:41,910 --> 01:37:42,870
Is that implied?

579
01:37:43,210 --> 01:37:45,790
We will send it to them for review and comment.

580
01:37:45,790 --> 01:37:48,910
Just for a view in common, nothing do where they like it or not.

581
01:37:49,810 --> 01:37:50,630
Very good, no.

582
01:37:50,970 --> 01:37:51,790
Thank you.

583
01:37:53,130 --> 01:37:54,230
You should be.

584
01:37:54,590 --> 01:37:56,390
Just point common.

585
01:37:57,450 --> 01:38:01,190
On this London, I had a long discussion on these phases.

586
01:38:01,670 --> 01:38:05,190
This afternoon, I had gotten confused about them.

587
01:38:06,330 --> 01:38:15,290
But what they're trying, this first phase is to try and make some clarification and to resolve issues

588
01:38:15,790 --> 01:38:22,910
The Department of Parliament has been having just in the way definitions are not coincide

589
01:38:22,910 --> 01:38:25,030
with one another in that type of thing.

590
01:38:25,570 --> 01:38:31,210
The other second and third phase will go a little bit deeper into things.

591
01:38:32,830 --> 01:38:42,790
But this first phase, I suggest to them actually even before Mr. Furrow did the last rewrite

592
01:38:42,790 --> 01:38:50,790
to pick things that they will have in the issues with, try to correct those rather than going through

593
01:38:51,550 --> 01:38:55,010
and end up creating more problems than you fix.

594
01:38:55,870 --> 01:39:02,770
So this first phase, I think, is initially to try and resolve some of the issues that planning

595
01:39:02,770 --> 01:39:09,870
staff is having with time flexing definitions and the way it's written in different parts of the audience.

596
01:39:09,870 --> 01:39:20,930
So the other phases may be getting a little more in depth, but this first phase is just to clarify and clean up some of the problems have been.

597
01:39:21,490 --> 01:39:28,030
That's correct. The first phase started out as the clarification and everything just like Mr. Marlo indicated.

598
01:39:28,270 --> 01:39:36,170
And as we started with what we're calling phase one, we found additional items that we needed to do.

599
01:39:36,170 --> 01:39:43,130
another set of amendments for and then we've had some phone calls with questions about certain

600
01:39:43,130 --> 01:39:49,190
amendments or certain regulations that we are looking at as well that will provide more information

601
01:39:49,190 --> 01:39:51,170
as we get through those.

602
01:39:52,570 --> 01:39:53,130
Anyone else?

603
01:39:53,450 --> 01:39:55,070
I would like to add two.

604
01:39:55,310 --> 01:39:57,910
I'm going to stick on the sign issue for a minute.

605
01:39:59,430 --> 01:40:00,650
Ms. Bartos is exactly right.

606
01:40:00,730 --> 01:40:04,270
We've had the same discussion where staff is cleaning up some of the ordinances.

607
01:40:05,190 --> 01:40:12,450
But I do know that the commercial sign size and date, I want to thank you for addressing

608
01:40:12,450 --> 01:40:21,150
that that came up out of a discussion with groundbreaking and minimal district in January,

609
01:40:22,050 --> 01:40:28,810
December, November, and there were no, in late November, November, that we found out that

610
01:40:28,810 --> 01:40:32,670
a business could only put a sign up that was three by three and they couldn't leave it up.

611
01:40:32,670 --> 01:40:37,330
So I appreciate you addressing that in this current update.

612
01:40:37,570 --> 01:40:39,890
So staff got on that, and I think that's a reasonable solution.

613
01:40:40,690 --> 01:40:48,610
And I really don't want to be the guy that powers on churches here, but we had an issue

614
01:40:48,610 --> 01:40:58,170
several years ago with a church on 522 that put up a illuminated sign permanent sign.

615
01:40:58,170 --> 01:41:08,170
And they used red and blue, which looked exactly at night, like either a fire truck, an ambulance or a police car, and it was blind and literally blinding.

616
01:41:09,430 --> 01:41:12,510
And I worked with them, they made some changes to that.

617
01:41:12,570 --> 01:41:26,930
But my question is, as we move into phase two or three, whenever we start to look at that, in our ordinance on dark sky lighting, which addresses the lights on the building, the parking lot lights, that sort of thing,

618
01:41:26,930 --> 01:41:34,450
is there a way that we can see if these mechanical signs have to be limited as a number of

619
01:41:34,450 --> 01:41:40,530
lumens or whatever it would be that it doesn't have, because it sounds like it's countywide

620
01:41:40,530 --> 01:41:46,610
issue. We can certainly research that and bring some options forward as it moves through the planning

621
01:41:46,610 --> 01:41:52,990
commission for discussion and we can forward any information that we find to you all as well in advance

622
01:41:52,990 --> 01:41:59,430
Thank you. Thank you. All right, unless there are any other questions, I'll open the public hearing.

623
01:41:59,590 --> 01:42:07,350
Is there any one here in the public that would wish to speak on this proposed amendments to the land use ordinances?

624
01:42:11,020 --> 01:42:13,980
Let's see, I don't see, Mrs. Hart. Mrs. Hart.

625
01:42:13,980 --> 01:42:15,620
She has her hand up. I know it'll look.

626
01:42:15,820 --> 01:42:16,720
No, look at that.

627
01:42:22,360 --> 01:42:22,800
Ready?

628
01:42:23,240 --> 01:42:24,060
Yes, ma'am.

629
01:42:24,060 --> 01:42:34,860
We can hear Luis a district. My only question is in the phase two because I did not see it in this current right up.

630
01:42:35,100 --> 01:42:40,740
I would not be looking at the safety of portable dwelling units.

631
01:42:40,820 --> 01:42:49,700
We lack of a better term that are supplied by extension cords from built residential homes.

632
01:42:49,700 --> 01:42:56,160
Is that going to be in there, because what worries me is the fire attribute?

633
01:42:57,980 --> 01:42:59,820
What exactly is your question?

634
01:43:01,780 --> 01:43:11,660
What these houses in Lausse that are using their yards for people to move their portable trailers into

635
01:43:11,660 --> 01:43:18,420
or their cars or whatever. They run extension cords from the

636
01:43:19,000 --> 01:43:25,860
trailer for lack of a better word or a car to the house and they live there so they

637
01:43:25,860 --> 01:43:33,220
are we going to be addressing that as far as far code or anything because these

638
01:43:33,220 --> 01:43:36,880
electrical lies are just running across the ground. You're talking about people

639
01:43:36,880 --> 01:43:43,540
living in campers and that's what I think. Well that's part of the word. That's

640
01:43:43,540 --> 01:43:46,980
already out of compliance. If you know something that's happening like that I'd

641
01:43:46,980 --> 01:43:50,280
just you contact community development that would be against code anyway.

642
01:43:51,720 --> 01:43:54,840
Well, it's obvious, because it's all the way up and down the way we sort of rode it all

643
01:43:54,840 --> 01:43:55,540
the other highways.

644
01:43:55,540 --> 01:43:58,660
I shouldn't have to notify anybody, he's been there forever.

645
01:43:59,040 --> 01:44:00,440
My only concern is...

646
01:44:00,440 --> 01:44:04,560
Well, if you're connected to the fire aspect, what if you're that concerned, I think you

647
01:44:04,560 --> 01:44:09,640
would notify a community development, where it's a complete based response.

648
01:44:12,570 --> 01:44:13,730
Okay, that's fine.

649
01:44:14,430 --> 01:44:18,610
So there is not going to be anything in the

650
01:44:18,610 --> 01:44:22,470
and the report concerning whether this is allowed or not allowed.

651
01:44:23,870 --> 01:44:25,670
Well, okay, thank you.

652
01:44:26,330 --> 01:44:27,450
Do you want to address any of them?

653
01:44:27,570 --> 01:44:29,050
I may address that.

654
01:44:29,090 --> 01:44:30,390
Thank you.

655
01:44:31,190 --> 01:44:33,570
In phase one, that's not being addressed.

656
01:44:33,890 --> 01:44:36,950
That can be looked at in phase two if you make a note of that.

657
01:44:37,730 --> 01:44:42,390
But as I mentioned to you previously, there is already an ordinance on the books and the

658
01:44:42,390 --> 01:44:49,350
county that prohibits permanent occupation of a camper or an RV or something like that.

659
01:44:49,950 --> 01:44:54,950
So if you see, if you see that and have a complaint and part of the reason for that is

660
01:44:56,450 --> 01:44:59,970
fire hazard safety hazard, they're not up to code for full time.

661
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:02,300
That answer

662
01:45:04,860 --> 01:45:05,760
your question?

663
01:45:09,290 --> 01:45:11,470
I'm going to submit. Yes, sorry.

664
01:45:15,780 --> 01:45:17,140
Anyone else wish to speak?

665
01:45:19,500 --> 01:45:23,080
All right. Seeing now in our close public hearing, come back to the board.

666
01:45:23,320 --> 01:45:24,260
I'm going to approve, say.

667
01:45:25,320 --> 01:45:35,420
Been property moved in second and that we approve this ordinance proposal. All those in favor signify by saying aye, aye, any opposed motion passes unanimously.

668
01:45:35,420 --> 01:45:37,720
I think it's out for the first.

669
01:45:37,720 --> 01:45:38,280
It was.

670
01:45:38,480 --> 01:45:39,320
It's the way.

671
01:45:39,900 --> 01:45:41,020
What is it?

672
01:45:41,040 --> 01:45:41,920
Because I came in.

673
01:45:42,160 --> 01:45:42,640
Yeah, it came in.

674
01:45:42,640 --> 01:45:43,700
I watched it.

675
01:45:43,700 --> 01:45:45,720
It delays about three or four seconds.

676
01:45:46,940 --> 01:45:49,780
Next is a resolution to prove a rezoning application.

677
01:45:51,080 --> 01:45:53,540
R-E-Z-2024-O-7.

678
01:45:53,940 --> 01:45:55,740
LA Resort L-L-C.

679
01:45:55,880 --> 01:45:58,060
Applicants owner, a proper amendment request.

680
01:45:58,580 --> 01:45:59,180
Mrs. Buckley.

681
01:46:04,780 --> 01:46:05,500
You're going again?

682
01:46:06,300 --> 01:46:10,560
This public hearing is a request by Lake Anna Resort L-L-C.

683
01:46:10,560 --> 01:46:17,880
to amend the Prophors of Resoning 2022-05 with the goal of increasing the total density

684
01:46:17,880 --> 01:46:23,080
of the Planning and Development, condominium portion of the project from a maximum of

685
01:46:23,080 --> 01:46:31,920
96 units to a new maximum total of 124 units. The applicant is requesting the 28 additional units

686
01:46:31,920 --> 01:46:37,300
to allow for a mix of unit sizes that support the development's economic feasibility.

687
01:46:37,300 --> 01:46:44,660
The proposed 124 units does not exceed the 10 dwelling units per acre density calculation

688
01:46:44,660 --> 01:46:51,320
outlined in the Louisiana County land development regulations and according to the applicant

689
01:46:51,320 --> 01:46:53,960
the size of the building will not increase.

690
01:46:55,140 --> 01:47:01,900
The applicant has submitted an addendum to the 2022 Prophors which I believe has been handed

691
01:47:01,900 --> 01:47:08,260
out to the board and they are proforing.

692
01:47:08,680 --> 01:47:17,900
I'll just try to quickly summarize it $500 for each additional unit above 96 within 15 days

693
01:47:18,780 --> 01:47:26,420
of approval to the foundation of Lake Ann Emergency Services and additional $500 per unit above

694
01:47:26,420 --> 01:47:36,220
to the foundation for the Fluevanna, and we have a housing foundation within 15 days of approval if so approved.

695
01:47:36,980 --> 01:47:50,160
And then again, another $500 to the foundation of Lake Anna Emergency Services for each unit above 96 within 60 days of the issuance of the first residential unit occupancy permit.

696
01:47:50,160 --> 01:48:02,880
And again, another $500 to the Flavanna and Louisa Housing Foundation to be paid within 60 days of the issuance of the first residential occupancy permit for any unit above 96.

697
01:48:03,360 --> 01:48:04,120
That is approved.

698
01:48:05,880 --> 01:48:09,600
I will kind of answer any questions and the applicant is here as well.

699
01:48:09,720 --> 01:48:12,140
Does anybody have any questions, Mrs. Buckley?

700
01:48:13,380 --> 01:48:14,540
In the applicant is here?

701
01:48:14,540 --> 01:48:15,340
Yes sir.

702
01:48:15,540 --> 01:48:16,400
I have the applicant.

703
01:48:41,730 --> 01:48:42,450
Thank you, Ms. Buckley.

704
01:48:43,090 --> 01:48:47,070
Good evening, Chair Adams and the Board of Supervisors and Happy New Year.

705
01:48:47,310 --> 01:48:51,570
My name is Mike Grossman, I am the manager of the applicant LA Resort LLC.

706
01:48:52,930 --> 01:48:59,010
Staff is indicated our PUD residential condominium density is limited to 96 dwelling units.

707
01:48:59,690 --> 01:49:06,070
This request before you tonight is to allow us to increase the number of units from 96 to 124 units.

708
01:49:06,510 --> 01:49:12,010
The purpose of this request is to support a unit mix that will provide the highest degree of likely success

709
01:49:12,010 --> 01:49:15,270
for market aburption, while still capturing the necessary

710
01:49:16,130 --> 01:49:18,350
sellable unit floor area needed to support

711
01:49:18,350 --> 01:49:20,490
the development's economic feasibility.

712
01:49:21,070 --> 01:49:24,230
And what that basically means is we need to sell a certain type

713
01:49:24,230 --> 01:49:26,990
of unit that meets the market demand and sell enough

714
01:49:26,990 --> 01:49:29,770
of them or enough total unit square footage

715
01:49:29,770 --> 01:49:33,950
to defray the cost of land improvements, utility infrastructure

716
01:49:33,950 --> 01:49:36,410
and amenities, which are basically fixed,

717
01:49:36,550 --> 01:49:39,190
and still provide the level of quality we aim to achieve.

718
01:49:40,830 --> 01:49:43,070
Can I switch to the next slide?

719
01:49:43,410 --> 01:49:44,170
Is it right here?

720
01:49:44,470 --> 01:49:45,490
Is it the right button?

721
01:49:49,380 --> 01:49:50,960
Thank you.

722
01:49:52,540 --> 01:49:55,300
This exhibit is an excerpt from our approved site plan,

723
01:49:55,500 --> 01:49:57,380
which shows the condominium buildings footprint,

724
01:49:58,260 --> 01:50:00,720
massing its orientation overall length.

725
01:50:01,440 --> 01:50:02,940
It also shows our parking areas.

726
01:50:03,200 --> 01:50:08,540
We have 236 residential parking spaces highlighted in the pink shaded area,

727
01:50:08,540 --> 01:50:13,480
which supports 118 residential condominium units per the code.

728
01:50:14,160 --> 01:50:20,820
We also have a restaurant parking area with 53 spaces of which 41 spaces are required per the code.

729
01:50:21,200 --> 01:50:26,640
This leaves an additional 12 restaurant parking spaces that we would like to repurpose for residential use.

730
01:50:27,020 --> 01:50:30,860
They are shown in highlighted and green near the condominium building.

731
01:50:30,860 --> 01:50:38,420
If we take the 236 residential parking spaces and add 12 for the repurposed restaurant spaces,

732
01:50:38,620 --> 01:50:45,980
we come up with 248 spaces in total, this would support 124 residential units per the code

733
01:50:46,640 --> 01:50:48,620
at two spaces per unit.

734
01:50:53,340 --> 01:50:56,640
This next slide has the same footprint as the previous exhibit

735
01:50:56,640 --> 01:51:02,580
showing the approved site plan excerpt, but with an added unit layout scheme that includes 96 units,

736
01:51:02,580 --> 01:51:06,200
including two-bedroom, three-bedroom, four-bedroom, and five-bedroom units.

737
01:51:07,200 --> 01:51:12,120
Two of these vertical stacks are five-bedroom units shown in pink.

738
01:51:13,040 --> 01:51:18,180
Each five-bedroom stack has six units, so in total there are 12-5-bedroom units.

739
01:51:19,120 --> 01:51:22,300
However, our market research indicates that five-bedroom units are unlikely

740
01:51:22,300 --> 01:51:25,920
to sell at the required price point and absorption rate.

741
01:51:26,240 --> 01:51:31,940
Our research also indicates that one-bedroom units are needed to support a market segment price point.

742
01:51:31,940 --> 01:51:35,320
and currently we do not have any one bedroom units in our program.

743
01:51:36,400 --> 01:51:42,100
We are proposing to swap out the two stacks of five bedroom units and with six stacks

744
01:51:42,100 --> 01:51:46,600
of one bedroom units and clean up the irregular shape in the middle of the segment of the

745
01:51:46,600 --> 01:51:48,900
middle segment by adding four one bedroom units.

746
01:51:49,520 --> 01:51:54,140
This would bring the total unit count from 96 units to 124 units.

747
01:51:54,760 --> 01:51:58,900
None of these changes are modifications I am proposing, which changed the building size.

748
01:51:58,900 --> 01:52:06,920
So, we would still be able to maintain the same sellable unit square footage we need to support the development's economic feasibility.

749
01:52:10,760 --> 01:52:16,460
Here is an excerpt of the exact same building footprint, but with 124 units.

750
01:52:17,440 --> 01:52:29,480
The 125 bedroom units have been deleted and replaced with 41 bedroom units highlighted in light blue, resulting in an increase of 28 units for a total of 124 units.

751
01:52:29,480 --> 01:52:34,220
Again, nothing has changed in the building size or orientation with this modification compared

752
01:52:34,220 --> 01:52:39,040
to the approved site plan or the 96-unit footprint version shown in the previous slide.

753
01:52:39,880 --> 01:52:45,120
Essentially, what this request boils down to is that we are asking for an increase in 28 kitchens,

754
01:52:45,500 --> 01:52:47,280
one for each increase in unit count.

755
01:52:48,020 --> 01:52:52,040
And interestingly, if we went ahead with this particular layout scheme as shown,

756
01:52:52,380 --> 01:52:57,080
the overall bedroom and bathroom count for the building would decrease by 24 units.

757
01:52:59,860 --> 01:53:01,820
I don't know if I'm out of time.

758
01:53:02,060 --> 01:53:02,940
Let me ask you a question.

759
01:53:03,160 --> 01:53:04,000
Yes, sir.

760
01:53:04,300 --> 01:53:09,100
You just said that the bedroom and bathroom count

761
01:53:09,100 --> 01:53:10,520
would decrease by 20.

762
01:53:10,560 --> 01:53:11,660
You said 24 units.

763
01:53:11,860 --> 01:53:13,280
I think you mean 24 spaces.

764
01:53:14,180 --> 01:53:14,940
Because I'm sorry.

765
01:53:15,160 --> 01:53:17,120
I've met by 24 and together.

766
01:53:17,440 --> 01:53:19,660
So 24 bedrooms and 24 bathrooms.

767
01:53:20,060 --> 01:53:20,640
It would decrease.

768
01:53:21,200 --> 01:53:21,280
Okay.

769
01:53:21,280 --> 01:53:22,340
Not 24 units.

770
01:53:22,400 --> 01:53:23,360
Thank you for that clarification.

771
01:53:30,740 --> 01:53:35,900
If it pleases the board and I have a few more minutes, I'd like to address some of the potential impacts.

772
01:53:36,060 --> 01:53:41,720
We have identified with an increase in units for schools.

773
01:53:42,320 --> 01:53:46,460
All of our conversations with prospective unit, purchasers, local real estate agents,

774
01:53:47,160 --> 01:53:53,060
and our market study team indicate that the purchasers of our units will fall under one of three major categories.

775
01:53:53,300 --> 01:53:57,940
The first category is active adults who will use the unit as their primary residence.

776
01:53:57,940 --> 01:54:04,000
This group is defined as those over the age of 55 who and who seek an active lifestyle.

777
01:54:04,800 --> 01:54:07,040
The second group is second home purchasers.

778
01:54:07,220 --> 01:54:15,820
This group will purchase a unit for personal use, friends and family, and not interested in renting a unit when not occupied.

779
01:54:16,540 --> 01:54:18,660
And the third group is vacation home purchasers.

780
01:54:19,120 --> 01:54:24,440
This group will purchase the unit for personal use and rent a unit when not personally occupying it.

781
01:54:24,440 --> 01:54:31,460
Can I guarantee that no unit purchaser will use the unit as a primary residence and have school-aged children?

782
01:54:31,720 --> 01:54:39,080
I know I cannot. However, no research or conversations with industry experts indicate this will be the reality.

783
01:54:40,680 --> 01:54:49,920
Regarding traffic, traffic impacts are expected to be marginal due to the increased number of units from 96 to 124 per the V dot trip generation manual.

784
01:54:49,920 --> 01:54:56,720
tenth edition calculation, there is expected to be just an additional 200 trips per day by

785
01:54:56,720 --> 01:55:02,440
increasing the unit count by 28 units. This is a little over seven trips per unit per

786
01:55:02,440 --> 01:55:09,160
day. That being said, I think a case can be made that the trip count could actually go down

787
01:55:09,160 --> 01:55:15,040
with additional units, swapping out the 12-5 bedroom units and replacing them with 36-1 bedroom

788
01:55:15,040 --> 01:55:19,380
units would result in 24 fewer bedrooms as I mentioned previously.

789
01:55:20,360 --> 01:55:25,320
Regardless, we contend that any traffic impact from the approval of this request would

790
01:55:25,320 --> 01:55:26,080
be marginal.

791
01:55:27,420 --> 01:55:33,480
Fire and EMS regarding impacts to fire and EMS due to the increase in the number of units.

792
01:55:33,900 --> 01:55:39,020
Set aside the idea that for a moment that the number of total bedrooms may actually go down,

793
01:55:39,280 --> 01:55:41,440
which means less people in the units.

794
01:55:41,440 --> 01:55:48,080
I would agree that there are, or maybe a small impact on fire and NMS services and because

795
01:55:48,080 --> 01:55:54,080
of this, we would be, we would like to proper additional monetary contributions, this is

796
01:55:54,080 --> 01:56:00,060
Buckler, we went over to review them, but we weren't happy to talk about those as well.

797
01:56:01,080 --> 01:56:05,700
And again, speaking about the Prophors, I'd like to take a moment to talk about affordable housing

798
01:56:05,700 --> 01:56:10,740
and workforce housing, like so many communities we have heard from Luis the community leaders

799
01:56:10,740 --> 01:56:15,780
that providing this type of housing as a major dilemma and although our project is not

800
01:56:15,780 --> 01:56:19,420
support this type of housing, we are part of the Louisiana community and we like to

801
01:56:19,420 --> 01:56:24,040
help find a solution and to that end, we like to provide the same voluntary monetary

802
01:56:24,040 --> 01:56:24,800
contribution.

803
01:56:25,460 --> 01:56:30,360
We are offering to the foundation of Lake and Emergen Services to the FUVANA, the Louisiana

804
01:56:30,360 --> 01:56:31,300
Housing Foundation.

805
01:56:33,140 --> 01:56:34,500
Lastly, revenue impact.

806
01:56:36,220 --> 01:56:39,160
I would contend that all things mean equal and increase in the number of residential

807
01:56:39,160 --> 01:56:51,520
units would mean additional tax real estate tax revenue and I think I think that's of course

808
01:56:51,520 --> 01:56:57,040
of everything is equal. Be more happy to answer any of your questions and I thank you for

809
01:56:57,040 --> 01:56:58,680
your time and consideration this evening.

810
01:56:58,680 --> 01:57:00,600
Give me a heavy question.

811
01:57:03,830 --> 01:57:04,670
Thank you, sir.

812
01:57:08,040 --> 01:57:12,220
I am, let's remember, uses word.

813
01:57:12,780 --> 01:57:16,500
I'm appalled at the lack of you standing here.

814
01:57:16,920 --> 01:57:20,820
Asking for a 29.1% increase in a voluntary proper,

815
01:57:21,480 --> 01:57:24,520
that you were supposed to have between 72 and 96 dwelling units.

816
01:57:25,040 --> 01:57:27,980
You went to 96 and you want another 29% more.

817
01:57:27,980 --> 01:57:33,780
And you come here and make claims like we go from 12 units to 40 units and the traffic

818
01:57:33,780 --> 01:57:35,000
count is going to go down.

819
01:57:36,020 --> 01:57:41,280
If you want to be selling 28 additional units for the sum of maybe 28 million dollars and

820
01:57:41,280 --> 01:57:43,980
you want to offer a poultry fifty-six thousand dollars in profit.

821
01:57:45,140 --> 01:57:52,480
I don't know where you think that we're a bunch of dumb country bumpkins just got off

822
01:57:52,480 --> 01:57:52,820
here.

823
01:57:53,120 --> 01:57:57,220
I would much rather you say we would like to maximize the profits, we would like to put

824
01:57:57,220 --> 01:58:03,100
morning in our pockets, and that's why we need addition 20 units. Do not come here and appease

825
01:58:03,100 --> 01:58:09,260
us with these poultry and insulting comments that you have made here tonight, and I'm sorry,

826
01:58:09,360 --> 01:58:10,120
that's where I am.

827
01:58:23,000 --> 01:58:31,820
You did mention Mr. Greshman something about Reynolds. If I remember correctly

828
01:58:31,820 --> 01:58:38,840
in your original CUPUD, it's profit out on short term Reynolds. Correct, they cannot be rented

829
01:58:38,840 --> 01:58:45,720
for less than seven days which every short term rental around like an is seven days or

830
01:58:45,720 --> 01:58:46,260
less.

831
01:58:46,560 --> 01:58:47,580
So that doesn't change.

832
01:58:47,700 --> 01:58:52,280
So when you mentioned something about rentals, I assume you were talking somebody

833
01:58:52,280 --> 01:58:55,380
would buy it and rent it on a long term basis.

834
01:58:55,900 --> 01:58:56,380
Is that correct?

835
01:58:56,820 --> 01:58:57,680
That is correct.

836
01:58:58,020 --> 01:58:58,260
Okay.

837
01:58:58,420 --> 01:59:00,360
I just want to make sure I understood that correctly.

838
01:59:00,360 --> 01:59:09,460
All right, if no one else has any questions for Mr. Chairman, I have a question.

839
01:59:11,800 --> 01:59:14,800
Perhaps you can ask Mr. Grossman for me, Mr. Chairman.

840
01:59:15,800 --> 01:59:16,860
Well, the two are not connected.

841
01:59:17,480 --> 01:59:24,760
I'm curious if he should get something that he, if we approve this request.

842
01:59:24,760 --> 01:59:32,050
hypothetically. One would the project be started. Do we have a general timeline on that?

843
01:59:33,000 --> 01:59:37,960
We've had a considerable amount of taxpayer dollars spent on acquiring wastewater treatment plant,

844
01:59:39,360 --> 01:59:44,230
and I think part of part of that is, well, it's not contingent on that. We're planning on

845
01:59:45,080 --> 01:59:51,780
purchasing that and doing what we can to aid development with that purchase, but I think there was

846
01:59:51,780 --> 01:59:57,480
expectation that there would be a resort project connected to that wastewater treatment plan.

847
02:00:02,160 --> 02:00:07,160
That's a question. I don't, did you ask a question, Mr. Cotter, because if so, we missed it.

848
02:00:08,560 --> 02:00:11,280
When's the construction started? Is that the question?

849
02:00:16,320 --> 02:00:24,940
So today we don't have an exact construction start date. We are working with county staff in regards to the wastewater treatment plant coming online.

850
02:00:26,040 --> 02:00:30,920
They are in the design phase and we're supposed to have an update in a January early February.

851
02:00:30,920 --> 02:00:36,080
That is one of the long poles in the tent to have a better understanding when we have

852
02:00:36,080 --> 02:00:40,080
assurances that that treatment facility will be operational.

853
02:00:41,680 --> 02:00:48,540
In terms of other factors that impact when we would start, we would have to have a certain

854
02:00:48,540 --> 02:00:53,420
amount of pre-sales before we start construction and ideally we would start those pre-sales

855
02:00:53,420 --> 02:00:58,640
in the spring and the spring months to give us the best opportunity to capture the

856
02:00:58,640 --> 02:01:05,960
of those sales. So our hope was to start pre-sales this spring but one of the long pulls in the

857
02:01:05,960 --> 02:01:10,580
tent was the wastewater treatment plant so I think that may get pushed until next spring

858
02:01:10,580 --> 02:01:17,660
at this at this time. That's the idea and our idea is once we start pre-sales we will start construction

859
02:01:17,660 --> 02:01:24,080
six months after that. So Q3 of 2025 or 26 is construction start.

860
02:01:25,000 --> 02:01:35,040
And that's it, I can only on the kind of unit or is that on the panel as well.

861
02:01:35,460 --> 02:01:39,580
Currently we're working on the proposed condominium building.

862
02:01:40,240 --> 02:01:44,520
We are hopefully having conversations with prospective hotel developers that are interested

863
02:01:44,520 --> 02:01:49,700
in building hotel concurrently with our condominium building.

864
02:01:49,700 --> 02:01:55,700
And we are in conversations with the selected general contractor to be able to accommodate that.

865
02:01:55,980 --> 02:02:00,880
And we are planning for that eventuality where we can build the hotel during the construction

866
02:02:00,880 --> 02:02:02,180
of the residential condominium.

867
02:02:02,360 --> 02:02:06,560
That would create the greatest amount of efficiencies for us to be able to do that at one

868
02:02:06,560 --> 02:02:07,020
time.

869
02:02:09,020 --> 02:02:09,380
All right.

870
02:02:09,480 --> 02:02:10,440
Any other questions?

871
02:02:11,080 --> 02:02:12,020
I don't know.

872
02:02:12,440 --> 02:02:13,440
I have a question.

873
02:02:13,640 --> 02:02:14,080
Yes, ma'am.

874
02:02:14,080 --> 02:02:19,100
So you are asking for almost a 30% increase on units.

875
02:02:19,380 --> 02:02:19,980
Is that correct?

876
02:02:20,640 --> 02:02:20,860
Mr.

877
02:02:22,100 --> 02:02:22,580
Question.

878
02:02:23,720 --> 02:02:23,860
Question.

879
02:02:25,700 --> 02:02:30,600
That would rough math in my mind, in my head, yes, that would be almost a 30% increase.

880
02:02:31,580 --> 02:02:34,140
But again, the building itself is not changing.

881
02:02:34,960 --> 02:02:38,360
The site plan is not going to, we are not going to have to go through a site plan amendment.

882
02:02:38,840 --> 02:02:43,100
We're just switching out larger of 3, 200 square foot units for smaller units.

883
02:02:43,100 --> 02:02:45,920
And essentially, we're asking for additional kitchens.

884
02:02:46,100 --> 02:02:48,160
The building itself is not changing at all.

885
02:02:48,920 --> 02:02:54,320
So 3,200 square foot units, 5 bedroom units are going to turn into 3,1 bedroom units

886
02:02:54,320 --> 02:02:56,480
or 1,000 square foot units.

887
02:02:57,080 --> 02:02:59,940
But the building itself is not going to change.

888
02:03:01,520 --> 02:03:10,120
What you're asking about, assuming what it is right now, how much, when you're sliding

889
02:03:10,120 --> 02:03:12,560
there was something about real estate taxes.

890
02:03:13,800 --> 02:03:19,660
What's your estimate of how much real estate value is in that building for

891
02:03:19,660 --> 02:03:21,180
my tax bases for the county?

892
02:03:23,000 --> 02:03:28,280
I would estimate, assessment-wise, probably, over $100 million.

893
02:03:28,280 --> 02:03:29,360
And

894
02:03:34,350 --> 02:03:44,470
that when I hear that question, what is the assessment difference between a five-bedroom

895
02:03:45,670 --> 02:03:52,390
apartment condo as opposed to reduction to a one-bedroom apartment, and in other words,

896
02:03:52,550 --> 02:03:59,270
what's the difference between what you currently have and what you're proposing from a tax

897
02:04:03,070 --> 02:04:07,410
I'm not sure how significant it would be, I didn't run any calculations,

898
02:04:09,550 --> 02:04:10,890
but if we're changing

899
02:04:11,770 --> 02:04:17,470
out a 3,200 square foot, 5-bedroom unit, and we're creating 3, 1-bedroom, 1,000 square

900
02:04:17,470 --> 02:04:25,630
foot plus 1-bedroom units, I'm going to take a leap of faith and say that those 3, 1-bedroom

901
02:04:25,630 --> 02:04:36,310
It's collectively will have a higher tax base than one five-bedroom unit, you know, how much I would it would be a speculation on my part

902
02:04:36,670 --> 02:04:38,050
May be

903
02:04:38,050 --> 02:04:40,610
600,000 dollars collectively

904
02:04:41,490 --> 02:04:45,090
for three three one bedrooms over a five bedroom unit

905
02:04:47,250 --> 02:04:48,530
more yes

906
02:04:48,530 --> 02:04:48,970
I

907
02:04:51,270 --> 02:04:53,650
would say three to six hundred thousand

908
02:04:55,330 --> 02:04:58,770
Anybody else have anything, I thank you, witness to the question.

909
02:04:59,930 --> 02:05:06,510
We'll open the public comment period, I do have, we

910
02:05:09,940 --> 02:05:13,520
have one, two,

911
02:05:19,140 --> 02:05:22,940
so we have an email

912
02:05:22,940 --> 02:05:29,340
that was submitted that will be by Mike and Valerie Bagbee, which actually addresses both

913
02:05:29,340 --> 02:05:36,000
of a clearance we have tonight on this one, but specifically addressed, they can't

914
02:05:36,000 --> 02:05:36,360
resort.

915
02:05:38,640 --> 02:05:44,320
There are, email will be entered into the public record of the board meeting, and then we

916
02:05:44,320 --> 02:05:54,000
have one from Chris Andrew, that's from outside of Boise, and their comments will be entered

917
02:05:54,000 --> 02:05:56,260
in the public record for this meeting as well.

918
02:05:56,460 --> 02:05:57,300
Do we have any cards?

919
02:05:57,880 --> 02:05:58,260
We do.

920
02:06:00,630 --> 02:06:03,930
Phil Winston. I see Phil right there.

921
02:06:11,000 --> 02:06:14,120
My name is Phil Winston I'm a resident of

922
02:06:14,120 --> 02:06:21,460
Louisiana County and reside in the mineral district. Mr. Williams, just want to

923
02:06:21,460 --> 02:06:28,100
remind as you spoke and mentioned the rest of the board, the applicant originally

924
02:06:28,100 --> 02:06:35,060
asked for 72 units. At the night that this board approved, they also then turned

925
02:06:35,060 --> 02:06:41,200
around and approved another two stories or another 24 units approved it to 96 units.

926
02:06:41,560 --> 02:06:44,300
Now the applicant's back looking for 120 units.

927
02:06:45,140 --> 02:06:49,060
So before construction starts, when's he coming back asking for more?

928
02:06:49,680 --> 02:06:51,940
When does the hotel become a condominium?

929
02:06:52,280 --> 02:06:56,480
The hotel that we all wanted when does that become another condominium unit?

930
02:06:57,440 --> 02:06:58,360
So,

931
02:07:01,320 --> 02:07:09,960
my original talk tonight was to talk about the road, the road, I'm only concerned about

932
02:07:09,960 --> 02:07:15,980
one road, as route 208 from Dickerson's store to the 208 bridge.

933
02:07:16,620 --> 02:07:25,500
I bought my piece of property in 1999 and commercial buildings on that road in 1999 consisted

934
02:07:25,500 --> 02:07:30,020
of two gas stations and Lake Anna Family Campground.

935
02:07:30,880 --> 02:07:36,240
Period. That was it. I want another commercial building on that three and a half miles of that road.

936
02:07:37,760 --> 02:07:42,500
Since that time, now today we're looking at 28 new town homes in the Plaza.

937
02:07:43,380 --> 02:07:48,580
We're looking at more density at the Lake Anna Resort. There's a new shopping area going in

938
02:07:48,580 --> 02:07:54,640
between the, I just, I'm sorry, just east of the firehouse.

939
02:07:55,320 --> 02:07:56,720
That, as a, as a strip center,

940
02:07:58,840 --> 02:08:01,460
there'd be 130 room hotel,

941
02:08:01,660 --> 02:08:03,480
plus a restaurant at the resort.

942
02:08:03,800 --> 02:08:06,080
There's 891 units going on.

943
02:08:06,220 --> 02:08:09,620
It cut along, plus the additional recreation area,

944
02:08:09,680 --> 02:08:15,240
plus the golf course, construction traffic for AWS,

945
02:08:15,460 --> 02:08:17,400
going on Kentucky Springs Road.

946
02:08:17,400 --> 02:08:28,080
And so far, what is taking place is we've had a foot added to the side of the road, about two inches of asphalt, put on top of it, and a few turning lanes.

947
02:08:29,380 --> 02:08:30,400
This is unacceptable.

948
02:08:31,360 --> 02:08:41,040
You know, with every other commercial piece of property that we've now approved, sitting on that road, you cannot handle that traffic.

949
02:08:41,620 --> 02:08:46,720
Oh, we asked for a speed limit to be dropped from 55 miles an hour on my head every

950
02:08:46,720 --> 02:08:47,460
got there anyway.

951
02:08:47,520 --> 02:08:48,940
They dropped it to 50.

952
02:08:50,260 --> 02:08:57,460
So we need to do something because if not, you're going to see a lot more deaths on that

953
02:08:57,460 --> 02:08:58,060
road.

954
02:08:58,920 --> 02:09:04,580
You know, maybe I'm a little prejudiced because I can't get out of my driveway on a weekend

955
02:09:04,580 --> 02:09:10,700
in particular and a couple thousand more units on that road, a couple thousand.

956
02:09:10,700 --> 02:09:12,720
And these are ones that have already been approved.

957
02:09:13,460 --> 02:09:14,860
This is not what's coming before you.

958
02:09:14,920 --> 02:09:16,980
So we have, we as a board, wow.

959
02:09:17,700 --> 02:09:19,720
We as a board have to think about this.

960
02:09:19,780 --> 02:09:23,480
I know it's not your decision, but you have to find a way

961
02:09:23,480 --> 02:09:27,080
to convince V dot to do something about it.

962
02:09:27,280 --> 02:09:27,980
Thank you very much.

963
02:09:28,060 --> 02:09:28,540
Appreciate it.

964
02:09:28,700 --> 02:09:29,080
Happy New Year.

965
02:09:29,240 --> 02:09:30,360
Thank you Mr. Winston.

966
02:09:31,020 --> 02:09:32,780
Next is Patrick Gallagher.

967
02:09:43,240 --> 02:09:46,500
Patrick Gallagher, mineral district, evening chairman,

968
02:09:46,500 --> 02:09:48,760
atoms and supervisors.

969
02:09:51,400 --> 02:09:57,540
I'm on the directors of the Foundation for Lake An emergency services and from my perspective,

970
02:09:57,820 --> 02:10:03,840
I'd just like to share the developers of Lake An and Resort, Mike Grossman, Mike Garcia,

971
02:10:04,440 --> 02:10:09,100
have been good corporate neighbors to this to us.

972
02:10:09,100 --> 02:10:16,300
They've been generously supporting our foundation schools and fundraising for Newbridge Station 8.

973
02:10:16,940 --> 02:10:19,080
We look forward to their continued support of our community.

974
02:10:19,560 --> 02:10:27,340
And if I heard correctly earlier, they've indicated they're going to be a continued support of our community community.

975
02:10:27,340 --> 02:10:31,800
Yeah, specifically our foundation, but also others within Louisiana County.

976
02:10:32,080 --> 02:10:33,740
And we appreciate that support.

977
02:10:34,760 --> 02:10:35,320
Thank you for your time.

978
02:10:35,500 --> 02:10:36,460
Thank you.

979
02:10:40,140 --> 02:10:40,820
Mrs. Hart?

980
02:10:46,610 --> 02:10:46,850
No.

981
02:10:46,850 --> 02:10:49,670
Thank you, Heart, Louisa District,

982
02:10:49,990 --> 02:10:50,890
town of Louisa.

983
02:10:53,090 --> 02:10:55,670
I hate to say this, but I kind of agree with Tony.

984
02:10:57,150 --> 02:10:57,870
Oh, my God.

985
02:10:59,610 --> 02:11:01,790
Tony, may I hate the fact that you say that?

986
02:11:02,130 --> 02:11:04,190
Yeah, I know, that's why I said it.

987
02:11:04,410 --> 02:11:06,090
It was for him, not for the rest of you.

988
02:11:07,430 --> 02:11:10,930
My position is I know people in this county

989
02:11:10,930 --> 02:11:12,890
that have no place to live.

990
02:11:13,550 --> 02:11:16,010
They're staying in hotels with kids

991
02:11:16,010 --> 02:11:23,510
that other churches are providing for, they're staying at other people's homes, why can't we

992
02:11:23,510 --> 02:11:30,990
walk the talk here instead of giving money to the housing foundation? Why can't we not take these

993
02:11:30,990 --> 02:11:37,450
if we approve these 40 units, one bedrooms, and make them affordable housing if they're going to be approved?

994
02:11:38,010 --> 02:11:41,050
And that's all I have, thank you. Thank you, man.

995
02:11:43,940 --> 02:11:46,600
Is there anyone else that would wish to speak to the board

996
02:11:46,600 --> 02:11:48,260
regarding this reason.

997
02:11:52,320 --> 02:11:53,740
I give it back to you Scott, because I

998
02:12:04,680 --> 02:12:08,040
don't the his presentation.

999
02:12:09,780 --> 02:12:10,440
Please.

1000
02:12:15,670 --> 02:12:17,590
Does anybody have any other questions?

1001
02:12:18,530 --> 02:12:19,250
Good job.

1002
02:12:19,730 --> 02:12:19,750
Yes.

1003
02:12:20,950 --> 02:12:21,830
We closed the problem.

1004
02:12:22,150 --> 02:12:22,630
I did.

1005
02:12:22,850 --> 02:12:23,750
Good job.

1006
02:12:24,030 --> 02:12:24,410
I did.

1007
02:12:25,490 --> 02:12:26,750
You know,

1008
02:12:32,280 --> 02:12:35,700
I voted for the project when it came through.

1009
02:12:35,700 --> 02:12:43,560
Um, I understand the dynamics of I get them developing, I understand the dynamics, uh,

1010
02:12:43,940 --> 02:12:50,380
a group that I understand the dynamics that people probably, I really do, um, you know,

1011
02:12:51,300 --> 02:12:54,000
I got, I probably, I thought, uh,

1012
02:12:57,100 --> 02:13:00,340
Jack's, I mean, it's a snout and he's one of the

1013
02:13:00,340 --> 02:13:05,240
original Spring Creek Gav, and I understand some of the products that they started with and

1014
02:13:05,240 --> 02:13:12,300
had to make it flexible for the market and make some changes to make it market. But I'm

1015
02:13:12,300 --> 02:13:18,500
probably one of the guys that talk about the four-ba-house morning in about it. And I

1016
02:13:18,500 --> 02:13:25,660
tell you, real realistic thing about putting no four-ba-house on the lake. Let's be realistic

1017
02:13:25,660 --> 02:13:34,720
about that, okay? In the bad putting them on that. But in joining my partner, Mr. Williams,

1018
02:13:35,520 --> 02:13:37,320
I am going to call it $500.

1019
02:13:39,160 --> 02:13:42,080
I'm be honest with you.

1020
02:13:43,200 --> 02:13:44,780
I'm in support of this party.

1021
02:13:45,240 --> 02:13:50,020
But it throw $500 at a profit is

1022
02:13:52,070 --> 02:13:53,390
beyond me.

1023
02:13:53,990 --> 02:13:55,110
It really is.

1024
02:13:55,110 --> 02:13:58,530
And I appreciate the work that people don't find rescue things that nature.

1025
02:13:58,990 --> 02:14:00,130
And I'm going to bigger four pounds.

1026
02:14:00,670 --> 02:14:01,890
But it throw us $500.

1027
02:14:03,170 --> 02:14:06,090
It's like throwing a cat a big bone.

1028
02:14:06,830 --> 02:14:14,410
and so look at small ball can I can I ask clarification if I'm reading this correctly

1029
02:14:14,410 --> 02:14:21,490
Mr. King I'll look at you because I read it again after Mr. Williams comments it's a

1030
02:14:21,490 --> 02:14:30,930
total of $1,000 per unit over and above 96 to the emergency foundation and a total

1031
02:14:30,930 --> 02:14:35,870
of $1,000 per unit over 96 to the preventable

1032
02:14:35,870 --> 02:14:37,470
of the house of $56,000.

1033
02:14:38,290 --> 02:14:41,070
Yeah, I just, yeah, and 500 at one point

1034
02:14:41,070 --> 02:14:41,790
and 500 at that.

1035
02:14:41,810 --> 02:14:43,870
Well, like, tons of, it's $56,000.

1036
02:14:44,070 --> 02:14:45,250
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

1037
02:14:45,770 --> 02:14:49,410
And I'm not counting the developed money, okay, that's your job.

1038
02:14:50,030 --> 02:14:53,190
But I can tell you, that kind of profit,

1039
02:14:54,330 --> 02:14:59,330
I'll be honest, coming back, that's very little.

1040
02:15:00,140 --> 02:15:07,800
I'm just going to call it what it is. And I tell you, and you can quote me going forward, in a rezoning, with

1041
02:15:07,800 --> 02:15:15,700
a residential. I'm asking for a photo housing contribution to ward, down payment assistance, rehabbing

1042
02:15:15,700 --> 02:15:24,120
houses, and those are the things that I'm looking for. So, I'm going to reserve my right to vote,

1043
02:15:24,120 --> 02:15:32,640
later on, but I do think that I can't ask for a powerful because it is a law, but I just think

1044
02:15:32,640 --> 02:15:35,800
that that's starting, that's not a start of me.

1045
02:15:36,840 --> 02:15:42,100
Mr. Chairman, yes ma'am, I'm actually, you know, I've been thinking about this and rolling

1046
02:15:42,100 --> 02:15:48,260
this around and reading everything and for the last few days and sitting here and listening

1047
02:15:48,260 --> 02:15:54,100
to Mr. Williams, I agree, I absolutely agree the way it was presented to us and I

1048
02:15:54,100 --> 02:15:58,840
I have to say I do think these numbers in this proper are a little bit low when it is

1049
02:15:58,840 --> 02:16:05,580
pure profit that they are trying to make and everything that Mr. I you have to apologize

1050
02:16:05,580 --> 02:16:10,880
I am not feeling well tonight and my brain has stopped working so names are not coming

1051
02:16:10,880 --> 02:16:17,840
to me but Mr. Barnes just said I agree with you on all points there and stand behind

1052
02:16:17,840 --> 02:16:21,720
you on that. So I am a little bit appalled in the

1053
02:16:21,720 --> 02:16:25,020
proper here. I mean, it is nice to see a

1054
02:16:25,020 --> 02:16:28,100
proper with this in it with some money

1055
02:16:28,100 --> 02:16:30,040
towards affordable housing because we have a

1056
02:16:30,040 --> 02:16:35,960
huge issue in our community. Um, but uh, it's just

1057
02:16:35,960 --> 02:16:44,940
pretty low. Anybody else? Yes, sure. Um, when I was on

1058
02:16:44,940 --> 02:16:46,600
the planning commission this came up and I voted

1059
02:16:46,600 --> 02:16:49,780
against it. I think I was only one it probably did.

1060
02:16:52,300 --> 02:16:54,780
I can't say that I necessarily, and

1061
02:16:54,780 --> 02:16:59,860
I said at the time, that I didn't think there was anything wrong with the plans, what

1062
02:16:59,860 --> 02:17:04,780
they were looking to do. I didn't think there was so much ready for this yet, and I

1063
02:17:04,780 --> 02:17:11,840
think we need to get and have time to get ready for it through improving the roads and

1064
02:17:11,840 --> 02:17:19,080
type of thing. The developer says it's going to be probably a year and a half from now

1065
02:17:19,080 --> 02:17:27,180
before they start. That gives us a chance to get a start on it. So, you know, I'm torn tonight.

1066
02:17:28,660 --> 02:17:40,090
The proffer, I think, is very weak. And so I'm sitting here, not sure exactly what I'm going to do.

1067
02:17:40,090 --> 02:17:42,290
You ready for motion?

1068
02:17:42,610 --> 02:17:44,310
No, no, yeah.

1069
02:17:48,280 --> 02:17:48,720
So,

1070
02:17:51,150 --> 02:17:54,150
so we're almost at the point that we're either going to have a motion or we're not going

1071
02:17:54,150 --> 02:17:54,630
to have a motion.

1072
02:17:55,790 --> 02:17:56,650
We're not necessarily.

1073
02:17:58,050 --> 02:17:58,930
We're there.

1074
02:18:00,510 --> 02:18:01,390
Mr. Grossman,

1075
02:18:04,270 --> 02:18:05,710
I've only done this twice before.

1076
02:18:05,930 --> 02:18:07,550
Mr. Barnes has done it once.

1077
02:18:08,950 --> 02:18:12,050
My grandfather used to say free advice is worth what you pay for it.

1078
02:18:12,090 --> 02:18:13,450
So I'm going to give you some free advice.

1079
02:18:15,470 --> 02:18:25,450
This is obviously a development that's in the mineral district, it was a controversy about 18 months ago.

1080
02:18:28,190 --> 02:18:31,050
Obviously there's some controversy that you've heard here tonight.

1081
02:18:32,010 --> 02:18:40,950
If we vote on something and it doesn't pass on a rezoning, I'm looking to make sure I say this right, it can't come back for a year.

1082
02:18:40,950 --> 02:18:44,950
So that's the free advice I'm about to give you.

1083
02:18:48,960 --> 02:18:54,080
The concern I have, I understand what Mr. William said.

1084
02:18:55,960 --> 02:19:04,840
What you said, what we have designed right now, we can't sell them so it doesn't make financial sense basically.

1085
02:19:05,940 --> 02:19:12,000
and I understand special five, I don't know who would buy a five bedroom condominium, but

1086
02:19:12,540 --> 02:19:14,940
but it doesn't seem like there's a market for that.

1087
02:19:17,160 --> 02:19:23,440
I voted for this in the past, supported it, thought it was the best plan for that piece of property.

1088
02:19:25,640 --> 02:19:32,580
Because what you could do then by right, what you could still do by right, I don't think is a good for that property.

1089
02:19:32,580 --> 02:19:36,080
it all and it's even worse for the for the for the bridge and for the road.

1090
02:19:38,580 --> 02:19:42,820
But I have the same one of the same concerns Mr. Williams has I I did the math so I've

1091
02:19:42,820 --> 02:19:44,640
glad to know that I did the math correctly.

1092
02:19:47,120 --> 02:19:53,360
From the 96 approved units to 124 to 30% increase in number of units.

1093
02:19:54,640 --> 02:20:01,580
This is a lot I'm not just I understand it doesn't change size of the building it's still

1094
02:20:01,580 --> 02:20:04,580
a huge difference in the number of units.

1095
02:20:06,800 --> 02:20:12,620
My suggestion, and this will be your determination because I'm going to ask you to come

1096
02:20:12,620 --> 02:20:16,660
back to the mic and then you're going to tell us what to do in this regard.

1097
02:20:17,260 --> 02:20:24,960
You can ask us to defer a vote tonight and work with staff.

1098
02:20:25,160 --> 02:20:30,760
I'm happy to work with you to see if there's something that would be more palatable to

1099
02:20:30,760 --> 02:20:37,180
board into the neighborhood where you can ask us to take a vote tonight and we'll see

1100
02:20:37,180 --> 02:20:42,520
where that vote would go but I can tell you that I have as an original supporter of

1101
02:20:42,520 --> 02:20:47,180
this and still have people who are mad at me for that vote but I still think that was

1102
02:20:47,180 --> 02:20:56,000
the right vote that night. I can't support a 30% increase in a number of units. So at

1103
02:20:56,000 --> 02:21:00,320
At this point, I need a little bit of direction from you.

1104
02:21:00,600 --> 02:21:06,600
Would you like the board to defer any action on this until future meeting, or would you

1105
02:21:06,600 --> 02:21:08,320
like for us to take a vote this evening?

1106
02:21:13,420 --> 02:21:14,320
Thank you, Chair Adams.

1107
02:21:16,480 --> 02:21:23,280
Could we have a conversation about possibly reducing the number of units in the request to something

1108
02:21:23,280 --> 02:21:27,680
lower than 28 units, is that a possibility?

1109
02:21:27,680 --> 02:21:33,600
I will say that I did hear a comment that this is this is per profit.

1110
02:21:35,220 --> 02:21:41,400
It is not it's it's it's it's the same amount of square footage is just reconfiguring that square

1111
02:21:41,400 --> 02:21:41,780
footage.

1112
02:21:42,280 --> 02:21:45,680
The unit is exactly the same the building is exactly the same size.

1113
02:21:46,240 --> 02:21:50,180
It's just reconfiguring what what we already have in the in the building.

1114
02:21:50,680 --> 02:21:51,440
It's all it is.

1115
02:21:51,640 --> 02:21:57,300
It's not pure profit it's just reconfiguring so we can make it a better a better product

1116
02:21:57,300 --> 02:21:58,420
for the market to absorb.

1117
02:21:59,000 --> 02:22:00,580
That's exactly what it is.

1118
02:22:00,700 --> 02:22:03,140
To answer your question, we certainly

1119
02:22:03,140 --> 02:22:07,420
can have a conversation about reducing the unit size,

1120
02:22:07,480 --> 02:22:09,640
maybe a conversation about your voluntary

1121
02:22:09,640 --> 02:22:12,420
proffers, because we cannot ask you a proffer.

1122
02:22:12,760 --> 02:22:15,120
The board has made it a point.

1123
02:22:15,340 --> 02:22:16,660
I know we can't see Mr. McCotter,

1124
02:22:16,820 --> 02:22:18,680
but Mr. McCotter and I have had several conversations

1125
02:22:18,680 --> 02:22:25,060
about this to try to limit this negotiation back and forth

1126
02:22:25,060 --> 02:22:26,080
at the podium.

1127
02:22:26,560 --> 02:22:33,220
So if you're asking me, it's for a deferral of this vote, so that you can have continued

1128
02:22:33,220 --> 02:22:39,660
conversations with staff about a different number than a hundred and twenty-four, and

1129
02:22:39,660 --> 02:22:45,760
possibly anything that you want to offer, more and more, I would grant that request if

1130
02:22:45,760 --> 02:22:46,580
that's what you're requesting.

1131
02:22:46,740 --> 02:22:47,680
That is what I'm requesting.

1132
02:22:48,420 --> 02:22:53,300
So without objection, we've closed the public hearing, but we will defer a vote on

1133
02:22:53,300 --> 02:22:53,620
this vote.

1134
02:22:53,720 --> 02:22:54,940
No, I don't think we will.

1135
02:22:55,620 --> 02:23:06,260
We might make a motion to defer a vote and we might vote on it, but no, we won't just categorize yourself, but I'm moved to defer action on this to later date.

1136
02:23:06,480 --> 02:23:07,100
All right.

1137
02:23:07,100 --> 02:23:08,020
I'll second that.

1138
02:23:10,340 --> 02:23:11,300
I'll support that.

1139
02:23:11,320 --> 02:23:12,240
We're going to vote on tonight.

1140
02:23:13,260 --> 02:23:14,120
It's just a game.

1141
02:23:14,940 --> 02:23:15,060
All right.

1142
02:23:15,240 --> 02:23:22,200
So the motion is to defer this vote to a later date and let the applicant come back and confer

1143
02:23:22,200 --> 02:23:26,060
or staff on some changes in their proposal.

1144
02:23:26,060 --> 02:23:33,300
all those in favour of signify by saying aye. Aye. Any opposed? Aye. All right, motion passes

1145
02:23:33,300 --> 02:23:38,060
six to one. No, it's five, too. The McCarter was McCarter referred against it. Yeah.

1146
02:23:38,300 --> 02:23:45,340
He said aye. He had four of the motion. Four to four. All right. So we'll have you work with staff

1147
02:23:45,340 --> 02:23:51,400
and we'll bring us back to that other time. Thank you very much. Next is

1148
02:23:53,900 --> 02:23:55,380
a resolution to approve a

1149
02:23:55,380 --> 02:24:04,280
Attorney and Application Resolution 2024-07 LA Resort, no, I'm sorry, that's what we just did.

1150
02:24:04,800 --> 02:24:10,460
Our RP 20 cut along consolidated abandonment and have dedicated right away for public use.

1151
02:24:10,600 --> 02:24:11,180
It's just see order.

1152
02:24:11,380 --> 02:24:12,960
We want to do these end, Mrs. Buckley.

1153
02:24:22,520 --> 02:24:23,840
All right, yes, ma'am.

1154
02:24:29,340 --> 02:24:29,960
Good evening.

1155
02:24:31,140 --> 02:24:36,760
This public hearing is a request for a vacation and abandonment of existing recorded

1156
02:24:36,760 --> 02:24:46,840
right away from RP-20 cut-along consolidated LLC at the November 14th, 2024 meeting, the planning

1157
02:24:46,840 --> 02:24:52,940
commission confirmed conformance of the project with the 2040 comprehensive plan regarding

1158
02:24:52,940 --> 02:24:59,760
road improvements and approved a private road waiver request from the applicant to facilitate

1159
02:24:59,760 --> 02:25:07,800
development objectives to allow the development to proceed with private roads rather than

1160
02:25:07,800 --> 02:25:13,460
roads that will be, come, state and maintained. The request this evening is pursuant

1161
02:25:13,460 --> 02:25:19,560
to section 33.2-915 of the Code of Virginia for the abandonment of right of way dedicated to

1162
02:25:19,560 --> 02:25:25,640
the county for public use on recorded subdivision plats, including the right of way known as

1163
02:25:25,640 --> 02:25:31,220
long drive, Tatum Drive and Emily's way, per the state code when the

1164
02:25:31,220 --> 02:25:35,980
rose deemed by the governing body didn't be no longer necessary for public use.

1165
02:25:36,520 --> 02:25:40,540
It may be vacated by the governing body and with the approval of the private

1166
02:25:40,540 --> 02:25:44,920
road waiver by the Planning Commission, it is no longer necessary for the right

1167
02:25:44,920 --> 02:25:50,080
of way to be held by Louise the County. This request does not include any

1168
02:25:50,080 --> 02:25:54,640
right of way shown on those recorded subdivision plats and dedicated to the

1169
02:25:54,640 --> 02:26:01,020
on wealth of Virginia, along Route 208, Newbridge Road, and Route 652 Kentucky Spring

1170
02:26:01,020 --> 02:26:10,180
Roads, and applies to the internal subdivision road network only the vacation and abandonment

1171
02:26:10,180 --> 02:26:15,300
of the rights of Wade designated for public use will line with the shift to privately owned

1172
02:26:15,300 --> 02:26:20,420
and maintain roads within the development and will permit private maintenance of the roads

1173
02:26:20,420 --> 02:26:27,040
by the Association and the developers provided draft documents that will be recorded, which

1174
02:26:27,040 --> 02:26:30,460
will provide for the future maintenance of that internal road network.

1175
02:26:30,880 --> 02:26:33,620
And those draft documents are included in your packet.

1176
02:26:35,020 --> 02:26:36,180
I'm sorry, Ms. Buckler.

1177
02:26:36,180 --> 02:26:38,700
I was distracted there for a moment.

1178
02:26:39,220 --> 02:26:45,920
Did you say that this would start at the state highways on Kentucky Springs and 208, including

1179
02:26:45,920 --> 02:26:47,760
the entrances and everything would be private?

1180
02:26:47,760 --> 02:26:53,140
Everything in turn will be private. It does not affect any right-of-way that was shown on the

1181
02:26:53,140 --> 02:26:59,660
Plats that have been recorded so so the dedicated right-of-way in the turn lanes was still be there

1182
02:26:59,660 --> 02:27:03,840
Exactly, but that and they will also be privately maintained

1183
02:27:03,840 --> 02:27:11,700
The anything with that was dedicated to the Commonwealth of Virginia or from from the dedication line in

1184
02:27:12,380 --> 02:27:16,880
Right, so if there's a 50 foot dedication or whatever it is from the dedication line in will be

1185
02:27:18,200 --> 02:27:21,600
private and from there out will still be maintained by Vida.

1186
02:27:22,140 --> 02:27:22,220
Right.

1187
02:27:22,300 --> 02:27:24,220
Built by them, maintained by Vida.

1188
02:27:25,120 --> 02:27:27,080
Thank you, ma'am.

1189
02:27:27,480 --> 02:27:29,220
Any other questions from Ms. Martin?

1190
02:27:29,920 --> 02:27:30,480
Thank you, ma'am.

1191
02:27:30,520 --> 02:27:31,160
I got to come.

1192
02:27:31,880 --> 02:27:34,460
Thank you.

1193
02:27:35,460 --> 02:27:37,540
This is the way development should be done.

1194
02:27:37,840 --> 02:27:40,800
It's a series of glorified driveways.

1195
02:27:41,340 --> 02:27:42,480
It's all subdivision road.

1196
02:27:42,580 --> 02:27:43,160
Isn't it?

1197
02:27:43,160 --> 02:27:45,660
Commonwealth should not be burdened with the maintenance of it.

1198
02:27:45,660 --> 02:27:49,880
So, I'm going to start off with the thank you for this one.

1199
02:27:50,380 --> 02:27:53,080
I saw him catch their breath when you said you had to do this.

1200
02:27:54,540 --> 02:27:56,580
Lord, that's kidding over here about the vice chairman.

1201
02:27:57,020 --> 02:27:57,260
That was good.

1202
02:27:57,560 --> 02:27:58,900
That might have been fine.

1203
02:27:59,120 --> 02:28:00,060
All right.

1204
02:28:00,140 --> 02:28:01,000
That's my question.

1205
02:28:02,720 --> 02:28:03,380
Mr. Wash.

1206
02:28:03,740 --> 02:28:03,880
I know.

1207
02:28:05,100 --> 02:28:06,540
I'm just interested in this one.

1208
02:28:07,500 --> 02:28:07,940
Okay.

1209
02:28:09,760 --> 02:28:10,640
Good afternoon.

1210
02:28:10,840 --> 02:28:12,520
Good evening, Mr. Chairman and supervisor.

1211
02:28:12,960 --> 02:28:13,760
So thank you very much.

1212
02:28:13,760 --> 02:28:19,040
My name is Joe Walsh. I'm the project director for Cut-Long and I'm a resident of Spotsold

1213
02:28:19,040 --> 02:28:24,640
India County. There's two items on the agenda and I thought first as this project's been on the

1214
02:28:24,640 --> 02:28:31,720
books for quite some time and entitled since 2005 I would offer a quick update on the project and then

1215
02:28:31,720 --> 02:28:34,280
address the right way and then the second item.

1216
02:28:36,530 --> 02:28:44,510
This is our land development team. Mr. Payne is our

1217
02:28:46,430 --> 02:28:50,370
We're very lucky because they were the original environmental engineer on the project.

1218
02:28:50,950 --> 02:28:57,610
There are civil engineer, there are landscape architects and they've had the history of the project.

1219
02:28:58,230 --> 02:29:03,150
Nathan Kaiser is our environmental compliance manager and project director.

1220
02:29:03,390 --> 02:29:07,030
Nathan's been here since Reef has been here on the project director.

1221
02:29:08,950 --> 02:29:09,610
Here's the history.

1222
02:29:09,610 --> 02:29:12,950
The 2005 is when the master plan was approved.

1223
02:29:13,690 --> 02:29:15,610
Our company is Reef Capital Partners.

1224
02:29:16,270 --> 02:29:18,710
We are out of Lehigh, Utah.

1225
02:29:19,510 --> 02:29:23,870
The company was a lender and then acquired the property in 2018.

1226
02:29:24,710 --> 02:29:29,070
A lot of time and money went into building the golf course, which was completed in 2021.

1227
02:29:30,270 --> 02:29:34,490
As you probably know, all the utilities that cut along are privately maintained and developed

1228
02:29:34,490 --> 02:29:35,510
by Reef.

1229
02:29:36,090 --> 02:29:38,050
Nathan has been working diligently on that.

1230
02:29:38,050 --> 02:29:43,870
We're happy to say here in 2024, we've completed the wastewater plant, we've completed the water.

1231
02:29:45,010 --> 02:29:49,990
And then we had a great event this summer, it's the first project that we have.

1232
02:29:50,290 --> 02:29:53,230
The Cuddle on Golf Team has been operating out of a temporary area.

1233
02:29:53,630 --> 02:29:56,550
We're happy to have the clubhouse under construction.

1234
02:29:57,250 --> 02:29:59,730
And then that should open up.

1235
02:30:00,920 --> 02:30:15,440
A little bit about us. We are a developer. We're also a resort operator. The company has three key projects. The first one is Black Desert. Black Desert is a vacation destination in southern Utah for folks that live in the Salt Lake City in Utah area.

1236
02:30:15,440 --> 02:30:21,240
Marsala is a project at the New Dear Valley Extension and then our project cut-long.

1237
02:30:21,900 --> 02:30:24,680
We will be branding the resort as Tributor Resort.

1238
02:30:24,780 --> 02:30:26,840
Cut-along will always be the name of the golf course.

1239
02:30:27,200 --> 02:30:31,520
And a Tributor is a minor that gets a part of the take of what they find.

1240
02:30:32,160 --> 02:30:33,140
Historic term.

1241
02:30:34,490 --> 02:30:35,550
More to come on that.

1242
02:30:36,250 --> 02:30:38,410
The other project is a Quorumat at Dear Valley.

1243
02:30:38,830 --> 02:30:40,710
Maine and Skies and Salt Lake City.

1244
02:30:41,090 --> 02:30:43,690
And then I'm sorry, is in Park City.

1245
02:30:43,690 --> 02:30:50,370
And then Coco Pong, Coco Pong is a resort if you're an Elvis Presley fan, it's where Blue Hawaii was filmed.

1246
02:30:50,970 --> 02:30:56,030
The project has been in a dilapidated state for years, Reef is rebuilding the project.

1247
02:30:58,430 --> 02:31:02,750
We're very fortunate to have Mrs. Johnkin come to our groundbreaking in the groundbreaking.

1248
02:31:03,270 --> 02:31:08,710
You can see the original rendering of our clubhouse, happy to say our contractors ride on schedule.

1249
02:31:09,630 --> 02:31:14,410
Mrs. Johnkin basically has photos of the partners, the Reef is a privately held company.

1250
02:31:14,410 --> 02:31:23,710
and the partners have been very active and are very bullish on Wisa County and very happy about the investment that they've made here.

1251
02:31:24,830 --> 02:31:28,550
As an operator and a developer, we have a strong commitment to the county.

1252
02:31:29,050 --> 02:31:30,990
I'm new, the company's been here for four years.

1253
02:31:31,590 --> 02:31:37,590
We've embraced the Lake Anna EMS, the Gallagher's and us were working on the future programs.

1254
02:31:37,790 --> 02:31:41,590
We're benefit, we have the benefit of a golf course to provide to help raise funds.

1255
02:31:41,590 --> 02:31:47,030
We are the home course for the Weez Accounting high school golf team and then we're also

1256
02:31:47,030 --> 02:31:52,010
continue to work with LACA to raise funds to improve the quality of water in Lake

1257
02:31:52,010 --> 02:31:52,990
Annabelle.

1258
02:31:55,120 --> 02:32:00,140
Sports Tourism is a big agenda item for the Weez Accounting in Mr. Coon.

1259
02:32:00,560 --> 02:32:06,700
We've worked diligently to have prior projects but now that we have the Club House and

1260
02:32:06,700 --> 02:32:11,620
we'll have units to stay in, we'll have some good synergies to work with Miss King and

1261
02:32:11,620 --> 02:32:18,320
their cone to drive sports tourism. And then we have the goal is to hold the state high

1262
02:32:18,320 --> 02:32:23,960
school golf championship and then also really to work on grants. So there are grants

1263
02:32:23,960 --> 02:32:28,840
through the Virginia tourism corporation that will work cooperatively with Liza County.

1264
02:32:30,910 --> 02:32:34,170
And then as far as a right away abandonment, I'll call off Mr. Pain.

1265
02:32:41,710 --> 02:32:45,410
Thank you, Joe. Mr. Chairman, I know the members of the Board of Supervisors,

1266
02:32:45,410 --> 02:32:49,270
my name is Charlie Painter, Representative Applicant, Happy New Year to you.

1267
02:32:49,270 --> 02:32:50,890
It's always a pleasure being Louise Accounting.

1268
02:32:50,890 --> 02:32:52,090
Thank you for your hospitality.

1269
02:32:52,970 --> 02:32:55,970
I'm not sure I can add a whole lot more than what Joe has already presented

1270
02:32:55,970 --> 02:32:57,390
and what staff has already presented.

1271
02:32:58,170 --> 02:33:01,650
This right away request aligns with the Planning Commission's determination

1272
02:33:01,650 --> 02:33:05,250
that the waiver request was consistent with the comprehensive plan.

1273
02:33:05,810 --> 02:33:09,530
It's also consistent with your zoning ordinance in regards to

1274
02:33:09,530 --> 02:33:11,430
requests for waiver for private roads.

1275
02:33:12,210 --> 02:33:13,630
So that's what our request is today.

1276
02:33:13,830 --> 02:33:17,470
And as Mr. Williams noted, this is not any publicly dedicated

1277
02:33:17,470 --> 02:33:24,710
And VDOT roadway, if you will, this is self-contained within the development and basically

1278
02:33:24,710 --> 02:33:28,790
with you primarily used by the residents and also by the guests who come to cut

1279
02:33:28,790 --> 02:33:29,150
along.

1280
02:33:29,570 --> 02:33:32,270
So with that, I'm happy to answer any questions you have to appreciate your time to see

1281
02:33:32,270 --> 02:33:32,870
me.

1282
02:33:32,970 --> 02:33:34,630
Anybody have any questions for Mr. May?

1283
02:33:35,690 --> 02:33:37,050
Anybody have any questions for the applicant?

1284
02:33:38,050 --> 02:33:38,670
I have one question.

1285
02:33:39,770 --> 02:33:40,790
It's very petty question.

1286
02:33:40,890 --> 02:33:41,990
Will you pickleball there?

1287
02:33:43,130 --> 02:33:43,530
Pickleball.

1288
02:33:43,910 --> 02:33:45,050
You'll see that in presentation.

1289
02:33:46,650 --> 02:33:49,130
to the modifications to the master plan, yes, ma'am.

1290
02:33:49,130 --> 02:33:49,950
Oh, OK.

1291
02:33:50,810 --> 02:33:51,470
Thank you.

1292
02:33:51,630 --> 02:33:51,810
Thank you.

1293
02:33:52,630 --> 02:33:55,030
All right, so I'm going to open the public hearing.

1294
02:33:55,350 --> 02:34:00,890
So this public hearing is specific to the abandonment of the road system

1295
02:34:00,890 --> 02:34:05,510
from the state system into a public road system,

1296
02:34:05,510 --> 02:34:11,030
a private road system, not about the master plan change.

1297
02:34:11,330 --> 02:34:12,450
So this public hearing.

1298
02:34:12,450 --> 02:34:22,270
So I have Mr. Gallagher. I think you actually probably want to speak about the second public hearing. Jack Snyder, I don't see where's Jack.

1299
02:34:23,130 --> 02:34:27,770
There, okay, I couldn't see you. I think you're probably wanting to speak about the second, okay.

1300
02:34:29,010 --> 02:34:32,110
So that's all of these. Mrs. Hart, do you want to speak?

1301
02:34:35,180 --> 02:34:35,700
Thank you.

1302
02:34:35,700 --> 02:34:41,900
And is not all right. So I'm going to close the public hearing and bring it back to the board.

1303
02:34:41,900 --> 02:34:45,780
I'm going to start moving forward a second.

1304
02:34:46,180 --> 02:34:53,680
I'm prompting moved and seconded that we approve this proposed amendment ORD 2024-13.

1305
02:34:54,280 --> 02:34:55,280
Any further discussion?

1306
02:34:56,020 --> 02:34:58,280
All those in favor of signify by saying aye.

1307
02:34:58,280 --> 02:34:58,700
Aye.

1308
02:34:58,920 --> 02:35:01,700
Any opposed motion passes unanimously?

1309
02:35:02,620 --> 02:35:03,180
All right.

1310
02:35:03,720 --> 02:35:10,140
Now, we're on to the last public hearing, which is a resolution to approve rezoning application

1311
02:35:10,140 --> 02:35:20,140
and REC-2024-06 or P20 cut-in-one consolidated LLC applicant, which is a review of a proper

1312
02:35:20,140 --> 02:35:23,160
and master plan amendment, Mrs. Buckley.

1313
02:35:24,440 --> 02:35:32,360
Yes, sir, Chairman Adams. Again, this request is for a proper and master plan amendment to the

1314
02:35:32,360 --> 02:35:39,020
original master plan that was approved in 2005 with REC-062005.

1315
02:35:39,020 --> 02:35:53,900
They're have been several minor amendments that were done administratively to the plan over the last 18-19 years, but this will.

1316
02:35:54,320 --> 02:36:03,620
The proposal is to increase the number of estate lots, condos, villas and townhums while reducing the number of executive and cluster lots,

1317
02:36:03,620 --> 02:36:10,040
But maintaining the total of 891 units, that was approved with the original master plan.

1318
02:36:10,720 --> 02:36:18,700
It also includes a change in the road network from the publicly dedicated roads to the private maintain road network.

1319
02:36:19,440 --> 02:36:24,920
A summary of the proposed changes is listed in your board packet on page 290.

1320
02:36:25,900 --> 02:36:32,900
And again the applicant is here to answer and provide additional information on the proposed amendment.

1321
02:36:32,900 --> 02:36:35,700
and staff is also available to answer any questions.

1322
02:36:36,240 --> 02:36:37,060
Thank you.

1323
02:36:37,100 --> 02:36:39,500
Ms. Buck, I just want a couple of clarifications

1324
02:36:39,500 --> 02:36:42,660
because I'm not the smartest person up here.

1325
02:36:44,620 --> 02:36:49,680
So, they're going to take the number of single family homes.

1326
02:36:50,260 --> 02:36:52,930
Detach single family homes and decrease that.

1327
02:36:54,000 --> 02:36:57,800
And increase the number of townhouses.

1328
02:36:58,380 --> 02:36:58,820
Is that right?

1329
02:36:59,860 --> 02:37:02,240
The number of townhouses will be increased, sir.

1330
02:37:02,240 --> 02:37:07,660
But the number of units will be the same. We're not taking a five-bedroom home and making

1331
02:37:07,660 --> 02:37:11,420
Five-one bedroom townhouses, are we?

1332
02:37:11,640 --> 02:37:18,060
Yes, sir. Okay. I just want to be clear. Yes. Um, and then I guess the

1333
02:37:19,040 --> 02:37:20,080
We approved

1334
02:37:21,140 --> 02:37:22,180
the roads

1335
02:37:22,760 --> 02:37:29,220
But now we need to approve it as an amendment to the master plan. Is that why that's included in there? Yes, sir. Okay

1336
02:37:29,220 --> 02:37:35,460
Is there anything else in this other than those two items the applicant will be able to explain?

1337
02:37:35,640 --> 02:37:41,540
They've done some rearranging of from the original master plan of the location of the designated unit

1338
02:37:41,540 --> 02:37:46,240
So sort of sort of sort of sticking someplace else on the property

1339
02:37:46,240 --> 02:37:49,620
There's no other changes. Correct. Thank you, man

1340
02:37:50,160 --> 02:37:53,360
Any other questions from Mrs. Buckler?

1341
02:37:53,360 --> 02:37:55,220
All right, thank you, Mrs. Buckler

1342
02:37:57,270 --> 02:37:59,150
So we'll open the public

1343
02:37:59,150 --> 02:38:02,910
There was no, the applicant doesn't want to come back, I'm sorry.

1344
02:38:05,650 --> 02:38:06,210
Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

1345
02:38:11,510 --> 02:38:13,410
We have to pickleball.

1346
02:38:13,790 --> 02:38:16,150
You don't eat so what are we doing?

1347
02:38:16,770 --> 02:38:23,650
So the master plan was completed by Mr. Mendelssohn in 2005 as a golf community, as a residential

1348
02:38:23,650 --> 02:38:24,570
golf community.

1349
02:38:25,190 --> 02:38:27,030
It's a fine master plan for that.

1350
02:38:27,270 --> 02:38:34,410
What we would like to do is focus on having the project be a destination resort where we have

1351
02:38:34,410 --> 02:38:40,090
larger mix of rental units that we have in designated areas in control in a more robust

1352
02:38:40,090 --> 02:38:47,190
amenities for off-lake activities. You can see some of the activities. Our goal is to

1353
02:38:48,190 --> 02:38:54,170
have a more robust program so that when our guests are there, obviously Lake Anna and

1354
02:38:54,170 --> 02:38:58,810
Lisa County are why they're coming here, but we want to have reasons for them to stay.

1355
02:38:58,810 --> 02:39:01,010
get out of their car,

1356
02:39:02,370 --> 02:39:03,450
let it not too fast.

1357
02:39:11,520 --> 02:39:14,420
I lost a slide, well anyway, I'll add a lid.

1358
02:39:14,820 --> 02:39:17,320
So what we've done is created a network of trials,

1359
02:39:17,600 --> 02:39:19,240
and the trials basically will connect

1360
02:39:19,240 --> 02:39:20,360
all the different communities.

1361
02:39:20,880 --> 02:39:23,200
We've also put a lot of nice pocket parks.

1362
02:39:23,340 --> 02:39:26,340
So the pocket parks will give open space and green belts.

1363
02:39:26,580 --> 02:39:29,240
And then the goal is with the roads being private,

1364
02:39:29,540 --> 02:39:32,220
anyone could get on a bike, get on their car,

1365
02:39:32,420 --> 02:39:36,220
or drive on a golf cart, and go from the from their home

1366
02:39:36,220 --> 02:39:37,900
to the different activity centers.

1367
02:39:38,920 --> 02:39:42,160
Feedback from the community, we've worked closely with LACA.

1368
02:39:42,300 --> 02:39:45,960
We've spoken with their neighboring HOA's

1369
02:39:45,960 --> 02:39:47,560
and other community for input.

1370
02:39:48,340 --> 02:39:51,120
The first one is LACA had asked us to ensure

1371
02:39:51,120 --> 02:39:54,380
with our nutrient credits for our wastewater plant

1372
02:39:54,380 --> 02:39:55,600
to do them on site.

1373
02:39:56,640 --> 02:39:58,580
So actually, it was a great idea.

1374
02:39:58,860 --> 02:40:00,080
We were able to do it efficiently.

1375
02:40:00,820 --> 02:40:03,880
So all of the nutrient credits for this project benefit Lake Anna.

1376
02:40:03,880 --> 02:40:11,190
It did have us take an area south so you develop some wetlands preserved it and made a nutrient bank on site

1377
02:40:11,660 --> 02:40:16,880
Yes, sir, and we put it took the crits yourself and applied them to which we're doing to offset the wetlands

1378
02:40:16,880 --> 02:40:17,380
You had to mitigate

1379
02:40:18,140 --> 02:40:20,840
We're not interrupting wetlands. We were improving them

1380
02:40:20,840 --> 02:40:27,460
But yes, we're doing all the nutrient credits on site good in a big part of them are 75 acres of

1381
02:40:27,460 --> 02:40:30,740
Conservation area and it's the area south of contour and creek

1382
02:40:30,740 --> 02:40:38,260
We also did a tour with the Laka Group to look at the Altria wetlands facility, where they

1383
02:40:38,260 --> 02:40:43,660
had come up with a quite extensive wetlands facility to basically help cleanse the industrial

1384
02:40:43,660 --> 02:40:45,640
waste that comes from that project.

1385
02:40:46,320 --> 02:40:50,240
And we've added wetlands to the site, it's worked out quite nicely, because we can put

1386
02:40:50,240 --> 02:40:52,480
our trails and our bridges around that area.

1387
02:40:53,720 --> 02:40:58,260
Feedback from the community, the biggest concern is from Laka, and the community is both

1388
02:40:58,260 --> 02:41:04,020
traffic on Lake Anna. As you see, our little tributary there. Contrary Creek actually extends

1389
02:41:04,020 --> 02:41:09,320
through that whole area into Lake Anna. We don't have the world's best lake front area,

1390
02:41:09,520 --> 02:41:16,420
it's a little more limited. So the concern was 891 units, you know, 891 boats would be problematic.

1391
02:41:17,080 --> 02:41:22,300
We basically have made sure and agreed with Laka that we wouldn't have a boat ramp on site.

1392
02:41:22,300 --> 02:41:31,020
So basically, our members would be using a remote boat ramp or renting from us that is there at the facility.

1393
02:41:32,140 --> 02:41:34,560
We also aren't putting a petrol station there.

1394
02:41:35,060 --> 02:41:40,940
And then the other concern was making sure that there's no public access via boat to the restaurants.

1395
02:41:41,080 --> 02:41:42,350
And we've agreed to do that.

1396
02:41:43,480 --> 02:41:45,300
Mitigating other neighborhood impacts.

1397
02:41:45,300 --> 02:41:52,680
We basically, as I said, removed the density south of Contrary Creek, so that's part of the shift that was all single family residential.

1398
02:41:53,800 --> 02:41:56,980
We did isolate the pickle ball courts to the spot that they belong.

1399
02:41:57,520 --> 02:42:05,000
So if you have seen pickle ball throughout America, it generates a noise that's really fun when you play, but if you live near it, it's not fun.

1400
02:42:05,400 --> 02:42:13,040
So we were able to put it in a location by extending this phase that is closer to the golf course, it might disrupt golfers,

1401
02:42:13,040 --> 02:42:16,640
But it's away from our neighbors and away from our residential place.

1402
02:42:17,920 --> 02:42:20,100
We have a proper for dark sky ordinance.

1403
02:42:20,360 --> 02:42:22,380
We're big advocates of dark sky ordinance.

1404
02:42:22,900 --> 02:42:24,140
So of course we'll meet that.

1405
02:42:24,460 --> 02:42:29,440
And then this master plan is Ms. Buckler had said previously there had been adjustments to the master plan.

1406
02:42:29,860 --> 02:42:32,120
The waste facility was right next to the neighbors.

1407
02:42:32,120 --> 02:42:33,920
It was put in the proper place.

1408
02:42:37,910 --> 02:42:40,970
And then as a last slide before I show the updated master plan,

1409
02:42:40,970 --> 02:42:43,930
We've basically come up with two nodes.

1410
02:42:44,170 --> 02:42:46,270
So again, we have 891 entitlements.

1411
02:42:46,410 --> 02:42:47,850
We're not asking to increase it.

1412
02:42:48,030 --> 02:42:49,730
We're just moving the inventory around.

1413
02:42:50,390 --> 02:42:52,670
In the center area is the clubhouse.

1414
02:42:52,890 --> 02:42:55,810
In the clubhouse fall area, we're adding town homes to that area.

1415
02:42:56,490 --> 02:42:59,910
And then near the lake, we have a more robust program.

1416
02:43:00,530 --> 02:43:02,890
And then that area will have more off-water activities.

1417
02:43:03,490 --> 02:43:05,890
And you can see the maintenance and utility infrastructure.

1418
02:43:05,890 --> 02:43:20,750
We've moved that from where it was to contact or to Newbridge Road, so that'll be have less large trucks coming through the resort to make it safer for our guests and then there is no change to the commercial activity area.

1419
02:43:21,770 --> 02:43:25,470
It's the food line and that there's no change that.

1420
02:43:25,970 --> 02:43:29,470
And then I'll have Mr. Pain address the master plan.

1421
02:43:36,640 --> 02:43:38,740
Thank you Mr. Chairman, the members of the board.

1422
02:43:38,740 --> 02:43:40,840
My name is Charlie Paine, represent the applicant.

1423
02:43:41,300 --> 02:43:44,520
Joe is doing a wonderful job, not sure why he's asking counsel to come up here.

1424
02:43:45,380 --> 02:43:51,240
But I just would just add that in your packet of staff noted the various different changes

1425
02:43:51,240 --> 02:43:57,220
of the use as a Joe is talking about the cap stays the same 891 units that doesn't change

1426
02:43:57,220 --> 02:44:02,880
at all, changing this mix in our opinion gives us an opportunity to have a more viable

1427
02:44:02,880 --> 02:44:08,020
project which will enhance the ability for a destination location which enhances terrorism,

1428
02:44:08,020 --> 02:44:13,140
which inevitably hopefully enhances a positive tax revenue for the county as well.

1429
02:44:13,740 --> 02:44:19,980
But the mix in addition to moving many of the pieces to get around as Joe had explained,

1430
02:44:20,420 --> 02:44:25,160
it comes out to 147 estate units, 34 executive 198 cluster,

1431
02:44:25,460 --> 02:44:28,740
and then 312 condo village units and 200 towns.

1432
02:44:29,000 --> 02:44:34,940
In addition to the spa on the clubhouse and the lake amenities that in pedestrian trails at Joe had noted.

1433
02:44:34,940 --> 02:44:40,480
The other important piece of this is obviously the private roads that we had noted earlier

1434
02:44:40,480 --> 02:44:43,800
the planning commission had addressed back in November, and of course the vacation

1435
02:44:43,800 --> 02:44:46,120
the right away was all part of that process too.

1436
02:44:46,720 --> 02:44:50,680
So, the roads are all self-contained within the development, as Mr. Williams noted earlier,

1437
02:44:50,980 --> 02:44:55,760
primarily used by the residents and the guests to decide, and they'll be maintained by the

1438
02:44:55,760 --> 02:44:59,400
H.O.A. and by the developer, so taxpayers won't be paying for those improvements

1439
02:44:59,400 --> 02:44:59,960
or the way to make it.

1440
02:45:00,000 --> 02:45:07,280
And it's a repair for this register. So, although not I'm happy to answer any questions you haven't. Appreciate your time to see. Mr. Wolge.

1441
02:45:11,760 --> 02:45:22,640
The strike to the bottom is restaurants and retail sales. Is that going to be private as well, limited to just the guests or the restaurants be open to the public?

1442
02:45:23,240 --> 02:45:30,080
Our goal is to have a private community, but we'll have rental units, so anyone that's renting a unit is the general public as welcome.

1443
02:45:30,080 --> 02:45:38,320
So the boat traffic coming to the restaurants really not a big deal because if you're not staying on site

1444
02:45:38,320 --> 02:45:44,880
You you're not allowed to come use the restaurants and facilities and I'm assuming the reason we're making the roads

1445
02:45:44,880 --> 02:45:50,300
Probably which is perfectly fine is because we're going to have a gated community. Yes, sir

1446
02:45:50,300 --> 02:45:58,740
So entrance won't be just coming and going you'll have to have a rental or be a member of the golf club or something to get in

1447
02:45:58,740 --> 02:46:02,300
is that accurate? Yes, it will be, you know, professional, there will be a

1448
02:46:02,300 --> 02:46:06,480
greeters hut, possibly a transponder on one side, and then everyone

1449
02:46:06,480 --> 02:46:10,120
common would be greeted if there are guests coming to stay at the hotel, they're

1450
02:46:10,120 --> 02:46:13,800
directed to where to go, if there are resident or a member, they can just buy

1451
02:46:13,800 --> 02:46:19,560
pass with a transponder. Okay, thank you. Any other questions?

1452
02:46:20,740 --> 02:46:21,680
Mr. Chairman?

1453
02:46:23,420 --> 02:46:23,540
Yes.

1454
02:46:24,560 --> 02:46:25,240
Mr. President.

1455
02:46:25,720 --> 02:46:26,760
Mr. McArthur.

1456
02:46:28,800 --> 02:46:28,900
Yeah.

1457
02:46:28,900 --> 02:46:30,900
I'd like to ask that on Mr. Walter's question.

1458
02:46:31,840 --> 02:46:39,220
Do we have any rendition or tradition of the stripe an area as a supervisor Williams noted?

1459
02:46:39,800 --> 02:46:44,070
Can we see that or Mr. Walter describe what that will be looking like?

1460
02:46:45,140 --> 02:46:48,440
Specifically dimensions and kind of the mixture of what we're going on there.

1461
02:46:48,440 --> 02:46:49,220
There's contenders.

1462
02:46:49,420 --> 02:46:50,800
We'll be going there as well.

1463
02:46:51,260 --> 02:46:52,060
Sure, Mr. Macotter.

1464
02:46:52,520 --> 02:46:54,280
We're currently a conceptual plan.

1465
02:46:54,340 --> 02:47:00,440
We've had a couple different versions, but our goal is to have some golf activity, town

1466
02:47:00,440 --> 02:47:06,800
homes that are on the third hole, and then condominium villas that are affronting the middle

1467
02:47:06,800 --> 02:47:14,260
of the project with a spa that will be adjacent to contrary creek, and then between the lake

1468
02:47:14,260 --> 02:47:21,360
and the condominium villas would be what's about about a football field in the half of

1469
02:47:21,360 --> 02:47:28,360
a pretty much activity area where you'd have pool, maybe a pool bar, volleyball, sand, and items

1470
02:47:28,360 --> 02:47:30,980
like that. Did I answer your question, sir?

1471
02:47:35,630 --> 02:47:38,930
Well enough. Do we know how many stories those

1472
02:47:38,930 --> 02:47:48,150
villas would be? There's all just like one story type of buildings. It'll be a mixture of where

1473
02:47:48,150 --> 02:47:55,770
three story and four story. I think the code recalls for 60 feet. So it can't be greater than 60.

1474
02:47:55,930 --> 02:48:00,730
We have no intention of asking for variances for setbacks or variances for building height.

1475
02:48:01,410 --> 02:48:06,930
And then of course we've engaged a very talented architect. So we wanted to look architecturally

1476
02:48:06,930 --> 02:48:12,110
pleasing in the building, massing in the way we do it will be quite nice and fitting to the

1477
02:48:12,110 --> 02:48:12,490
argument.

1478
02:48:16,270 --> 02:48:20,730
I don't want to speak for Supervisor Williams, but I'm probably sure that he's

1479
02:48:20,730 --> 02:48:23,830
happy that he's not going to be coming back asking for any experiences. Thank you Mr.

1480
02:48:23,970 --> 02:48:26,810
Walsh. Thank you, sir. Any other questions?

1481
02:48:28,030 --> 02:48:35,910
All right, we'll open the thank you, Mr. Walsh. We'll open the public hearing. I do have two letters

1482
02:48:35,910 --> 02:48:42,290
that came in. One is from Mike and Valerie Bagley, from the mineral district,

1483
02:48:45,410 --> 02:48:46,370
which basically

1484
02:48:46,370 --> 02:48:53,390
a poses, which will be entered into the record. One is from Terry Wood, Vice President

1485
02:48:53,390 --> 02:48:59,930
like Anna Division in Northern Virginia, Tattole and Escuro, which is in favor from

1486
02:48:59,930 --> 02:49:05,870
a, which will be entered into the record. Do you have a card for Jack Snyder?

1487
02:49:14,920 --> 02:49:21,800
Good evening. Fitz? Hey, Jack. Here we are again. I've got a long run with Louise

1488
02:49:21,800 --> 02:49:30,180
county back back in 1985 Mr. Schneider just introduced yourself in Europe. Jack Snyder,

1489
02:49:30,300 --> 02:49:38,320
Mineral District, 423 Laurel Wood Drive, yeah, we're good, I live from my daughter. Yeah,

1490
02:49:38,740 --> 02:49:42,620
a pure stone happens to be a golfer, right? So when I'm the golfer, a professional at Lake

1491
02:49:42,620 --> 02:49:47,020
Monad Chelope here, so I played golf together and next thing, you know, he's my banker. So

1492
02:49:47,020 --> 02:49:49,940
he funded me while I was the golfer, a professional at Lake Monad Chelope.

1493
02:49:49,940 --> 02:49:57,280
come to 2006 and bits and I run into each other at Spring Creek and in here I am

1494
02:49:57,280 --> 02:50:04,560
again getting along in the tooth but see a lot of a lot of promise in this

1495
02:50:04,560 --> 02:50:10,660
property and I don't want to hang up my hat so the changes they're going to make

1496
02:50:10,660 --> 02:50:19,760
the main facility being moved is absolutely really going to help the whole

1497
02:50:19,760 --> 02:50:24,720
be completed when we get the clubhouse and so forth will be an amazing thing for the weddings

1498
02:50:24,720 --> 02:50:29,280
and whatever events that tend to want to come our way and maybe some of the bigger events

1499
02:50:29,280 --> 02:50:35,000
that we hope to host down the road and then our stay in play units are, I won't say

1500
02:50:35,000 --> 02:50:40,740
a critical but it's really going to be a big, big boost for what we can attract at Cuttle

1501
02:50:40,740 --> 02:50:49,980
and then and then benefit the entire community. So I don't know. I'm here as a

1502
02:50:49,980 --> 02:50:56,280
director of golf. I love what I do. I see that this is absolutely the, I don't know,

1503
02:50:56,380 --> 02:51:02,300
I wish I was younger. This is an amazing property. While you probably may choose to live there

1504
02:51:02,300 --> 02:51:07,260
or not, you can always staycation there and it will be the time of your life. It's Disney world, I believe.

1505
02:51:07,260 --> 02:51:09,280
So looking forward to it.

1506
02:51:10,660 --> 02:51:10,960
Thank you.

1507
02:51:11,000 --> 02:51:11,280
Thank you,

1508
02:51:15,340 --> 02:51:15,340
sir.

1509
02:51:15,700 --> 02:51:16,320
That Gallagher.

1510
02:51:26,510 --> 02:51:27,550
Good evening, Mr. Chairman.

1511
02:51:29,670 --> 02:51:30,150
Supervisors.

1512
02:51:30,890 --> 02:51:32,130
I'm still Pat Gallagher.

1513
02:51:32,630 --> 02:51:33,670
Still Pat Gallagher.

1514
02:51:33,970 --> 02:51:38,110
I'm still one of the directors of the Foundation for the Kennedy Emergency Services.

1515
02:51:39,930 --> 02:51:40,490
I don't know.

1516
02:51:40,930 --> 02:51:42,410
I just reach him in the age of Jack.

1517
02:51:42,610 --> 02:51:44,270
It's pretty good, so.

1518
02:51:44,390 --> 02:51:44,750
Hang in there.

1519
02:51:49,770 --> 02:52:00,130
I just wanted to speak to the impact that kind of like Anna has had on the foundation, you know, from our perspective how they positively impact our community.

1520
02:52:01,150 --> 02:52:02,950
I hosted two fundraising golf tournaments.

1521
02:52:02,950 --> 02:52:07,870
you saw in a picture of a slide there for the benefit of new bridge station eight.

1522
02:52:09,030 --> 02:52:13,370
And my wife Jane sitting back there is a well in the planning of a third tournament which

1523
02:52:13,370 --> 02:52:16,770
is coming up this year on May 20th.

1524
02:52:16,770 --> 02:52:22,590
This collaboration with Cuttle Long has resulted in raising $20,000 in $20,000 in $20,23,

1525
02:52:22,590 --> 02:52:25,690
$28,000 last year.

1526
02:52:26,090 --> 02:52:31,470
And of course that accelerated our ability as a foundation to provide matching funds to the

1527
02:52:31,470 --> 02:52:38,890
county for the purchase of new ambulance in 2023 and for a fire and rescue boat in 24.

1528
02:52:41,010 --> 02:52:47,050
Last year, our foundation nominated Catalong for the Louisiana County Impact Awards hosted

1529
02:52:47,050 --> 02:52:50,190
by the Louisiana Ford Foundation, the Chamber of Commerce.

1530
02:52:50,490 --> 02:52:57,030
The Awards recognized key supporters and made significant contributions to advancing nonprofit

1531
02:52:57,030 --> 02:53:01,230
missions through financial support, volunteers, and

1532
02:53:01,230 --> 02:53:02,550
towards strategic partnership.

1533
02:53:03,870 --> 02:53:06,470
We're delighted to continue our partnership with

1534
02:53:06,470 --> 02:53:10,230
Catalong and just wanted to ensure that you all knew

1535
02:53:10,230 --> 02:53:13,390
what generous neighbors they've been and their positive impact

1536
02:53:13,390 --> 02:53:16,250
on both our organization and local community.

1537
02:53:17,250 --> 02:53:17,730
Thank you.

1538
02:53:17,850 --> 02:53:18,050
Thank you.

1539
02:53:18,150 --> 02:53:18,710
Thank you, Mr. Gallagher.

1540
02:53:19,790 --> 02:53:22,130
So, I do not have any more courage.

1541
02:53:22,410 --> 02:53:25,350
Is there anyone that would wish to address the board during this

1542
02:53:25,350 --> 02:53:26,410
Yes, sir.

1543
02:53:35,910 --> 02:53:43,530
Mike Sharpe, a mental district, full-time resident at Freshwater States, also a number of

1544
02:53:43,530 --> 02:53:43,930
cut-along.

1545
02:53:44,470 --> 02:53:46,090
I think, membered number 26.

1546
02:53:47,390 --> 02:53:51,770
So obviously I am very invested and care deeply about both the communities there

1547
02:53:51,770 --> 02:53:53,790
will be in and the development itself.

1548
02:53:55,910 --> 02:54:00,010
I think I should first say, we would not be here in my wife and I, this would not be

1549
02:54:00,010 --> 02:54:02,650
our retirement home if it were not for cut-along.

1550
02:54:02,650 --> 02:54:09,230
and for Reeves commitment to coming in and finishing Mr. Clark's off course and I go

1551
02:54:09,230 --> 02:54:15,450
off course community. I think what it brings to this lake like in a community as a whole

1552
02:54:15,450 --> 02:54:22,650
is tremendous and something we never have had here before. With respect to the amendments

1553
02:54:22,650 --> 02:54:27,930
to the master plan, I would hope the Board would certainly consider approving those tonight.

1554
02:54:28,890 --> 02:54:33,770
I appreciate the concerns raised by some of my friends and neighbors, concerns about

1555
02:54:33,770 --> 02:54:40,890
vote traffic, and activity across the creek, especially from fresh water, but from

1556
02:54:40,890 --> 02:54:45,850
my perspective, these changes do not have a negative impact on our community, the Lake

1557
02:54:45,850 --> 02:54:52,510
Anna community, or just the overall role nature that we love so much about this area.

1558
02:54:52,510 --> 02:55:01,330
I think the changes, the shift to more stay-in-place fits within the business model that

1559
02:55:01,330 --> 02:55:02,030
reef is doing.

1560
02:55:02,310 --> 02:55:08,730
I think it takes less stress off of the roads, the schools, and boat traffic in particular

1561
02:55:08,730 --> 02:55:10,370
on contrary creek.

1562
02:55:11,310 --> 02:55:15,410
And I think most importantly, it addresses many of the issues that have been raised by LACA

1563
02:55:15,410 --> 02:55:17,750
and by the community over the last few years.

1564
02:55:19,310 --> 02:55:21,810
just real quick with respect to beef capital.

1565
02:55:22,570 --> 02:55:24,010
I've got to know these folks very well

1566
02:55:24,010 --> 02:55:25,910
over the last four or five years.

1567
02:55:26,670 --> 02:55:27,390
I've been to Utah.

1568
02:55:27,530 --> 02:55:30,230
I've seen what they've done at reef out there

1569
02:55:30,230 --> 02:55:31,310
at Black Desert.

1570
02:55:32,890 --> 02:55:34,750
The recognition they received for all of their

1571
02:55:34,750 --> 02:55:35,790
environmental efforts.

1572
02:55:35,950 --> 02:55:37,910
And I think they bought that same approach

1573
02:55:37,910 --> 02:55:39,210
to Lake Anna.

1574
02:55:39,870 --> 02:55:41,510
I've gotten to know Nate.

1575
02:55:42,170 --> 02:55:43,430
Joe as well.

1576
02:55:43,970 --> 02:55:45,990
I've seen all the hard work they've done

1577
02:55:45,990 --> 02:55:50,330
to try to perhaps fix some of the sins of past developers,

1578
02:55:50,950 --> 02:55:54,370
working with the county, working with the state and regulatory agencies.

1579
02:55:55,170 --> 02:55:58,390
I've seen how they've worked with our community, with the Dredgen plan.

1580
02:56:01,270 --> 02:56:05,230
So for everything, they have done, and for this area,

1581
02:56:06,310 --> 02:56:09,150
I seriously would like to echo what I think.

1582
02:56:09,230 --> 02:56:13,650
Laka has already said, I believe these are good stewards for the community,

1583
02:56:13,650 --> 02:56:19,710
for the development around this lake. So I hope you will consider improving this amendment tonight.

1584
02:56:21,130 --> 02:56:21,570
Thank you.

1585
02:56:21,610 --> 02:56:22,250
Thank you, Chair.

1586
02:56:25,300 --> 02:56:26,060
Mr. Wayne.

1587
02:56:34,540 --> 02:56:37,960
Even Mr. Chairman and the rest of the board.

1588
02:56:38,500 --> 02:56:40,800
We lack I had not planned to make a statement tonight.

1589
02:56:41,120 --> 02:56:42,920
I'm John Wayne up from the Mineral District.

1590
02:56:43,580 --> 02:56:45,420
I normally speak to you representing lack.

1591
02:56:46,820 --> 02:56:52,720
I had not planned to make a statement tonight for or against this, which is normally our stand anyway.

1592
02:56:53,440 --> 02:57:00,040
But I just wanted to speak for a minute about the group of people who have submitted this

1593
02:57:00,040 --> 02:57:05,180
plan to you because in all the dealings and you know I have lots of dealings with developers

1594
02:57:05,700 --> 02:57:09,100
in this county and spot of any county, a little bit in orange.

1595
02:57:10,520 --> 02:57:12,500
I've never worked with people like this before.

1596
02:57:13,200 --> 02:57:16,580
They want to know what's on our mind, they want to know what our constituents think,

1597
02:57:18,800 --> 02:57:20,100
what

1598
02:57:20,100 --> 02:57:24,120
They get in your truck, and they ride down to Chesterfield, and they take a look at a wet

1599
02:57:24,120 --> 02:57:24,960
lands project.

1600
02:57:25,940 --> 02:57:32,100
You know, with you, so that, you know, they understand what you're talking about with regard

1601
02:57:32,100 --> 02:57:37,060
to the concerns that you have, you know, this second wastewater treatment plan of theirs

1602
02:57:37,060 --> 02:57:40,040
is going to put a fluent in Blackwater Creek.

1603
02:57:40,920 --> 02:57:45,020
And we ask them if they would consider putting that in a wet land, instead of right

1604
02:57:45,020 --> 02:57:47,000
in the creek, so it would have a chance to percolate.

1605
02:57:47,760 --> 02:57:52,000
some of the phosphorus and nitrogen would get out of it for a methamethe Creek.

1606
02:57:53,020 --> 02:57:53,680
And they've done that.

1607
02:57:54,980 --> 02:57:58,520
So, you know, just about everything that we've asked them to do,

1608
02:57:58,900 --> 02:58:01,460
they've tried to find a way to do it.

1609
02:58:01,700 --> 02:58:05,160
And so, you know, I'm only going to take three minutes here,

1610
02:58:05,300 --> 02:58:06,860
because I'm speaking for me personally.

1611
02:58:08,060 --> 02:58:09,360
I would support this.

1612
02:58:09,380 --> 02:58:12,840
I support this personally, and I think you got to support this move.

1613
02:58:13,320 --> 02:58:13,940
Thank you very much.

1614
02:58:13,980 --> 02:58:14,780
Thank you, Mr. Wayne.

1615
02:58:15,500 --> 02:58:20,220
I don't have any other cards, is there anyone else that would wish to address the board?

1616
02:58:23,160 --> 02:58:25,180
All right, seeing that, I'll close public comment.

1617
02:58:25,920 --> 02:58:27,100
Bring this back to the board.

1618
02:58:28,700 --> 02:58:32,020
I do have a comment, but do anybody else have a comment?

1619
02:58:32,700 --> 02:58:33,180
Yes, sir.

1620
02:58:33,340 --> 02:58:34,740
Mr. Chairman, thank you.

1621
02:58:35,680 --> 02:58:38,180
I've been fortunate enough to go down and play golf.

1622
02:58:38,820 --> 02:58:39,620
It cut along.

1623
02:58:40,840 --> 02:58:42,280
And I remember it's Spring Creek.

1624
02:58:43,220 --> 02:58:46,140
So, you know, that's kind of where my bar is set.

1625
02:58:46,140 --> 02:58:54,140
But I can tell you, it is an amazing golf course, and for it to be in Louisa County

1626
02:58:54,140 --> 02:59:01,920
it's just beyond my 70 years living here, I just could have never imagined.

1627
02:59:02,760 --> 02:59:05,260
And it's all now going to make it a destination.

1628
02:59:07,220 --> 02:59:07,700
It's unbelievable.

1629
02:59:08,260 --> 02:59:13,140
It's somebody who travels with the group every year to play golf in destination

1630
02:59:13,660 --> 02:59:19,880
that that's going to be available. I mean it's thank y'all for being so professional and being in Louise

1631
02:59:19,880 --> 02:59:28,440
the county. Yes, ma'am. Well, I'm not a golfer. I don't think I've ever held a golf club. I'm in a

1632
02:59:28,440 --> 02:59:35,320
question. I'm on a horse every weekend. You too. Give me a horse. I'll be fine. I have to say what I was

1633
02:59:35,320 --> 02:59:39,740
really impressed with tonight. I've heard some fabulous comments, but the fact that you support our

1634
02:59:39,740 --> 02:59:47,620
in our county, that you support our high school golf team, that you want to host the championships

1635
02:59:47,620 --> 02:59:53,120
for the state for, I just think that's phenomenal and that gives back to our community and that

1636
02:59:53,120 --> 02:59:59,260
raises our youth up and that's what I really have a passion about. So I really thank you for that.

1637
03:00:02,310 --> 03:00:14,770
Any additional comments? I have two. One, I do want to thank Mr. Wash, Mr. Payne, for your work, not just with

1638
03:00:14,770 --> 03:00:18,170
County staff, but with me as the district supervisor,

1639
03:00:21,270 --> 03:00:23,470
the investment that you've made in our community,

1640
03:00:24,390 --> 03:00:30,650
not just financially, which is large, but with our residents, with our citizens, with our

1641
03:00:30,650 --> 03:00:35,910
foundation for emergency services. I have proven you to be a great corporate

1642
03:00:35,910 --> 03:00:44,470
party. I think this change is a beneficial change to your resort. I

1643
03:00:44,470 --> 03:00:48,050
unfortunately I have had a golf club in my hand and I should stick to

1644
03:00:48,050 --> 03:00:56,730
writing horses but it is a premier development in the Wies of County and

1645
03:00:56,730 --> 03:01:02,950
and Reef has invested millions and millions and millions of dollars there in elsewhere in the county.

1646
03:01:03,130 --> 03:01:04,470
And so we're appreciative of that.

1647
03:01:04,470 --> 03:01:08,470
We're appreciative of the professionalism.

1648
03:01:08,930 --> 03:01:09,870
I'm supportive.

1649
03:01:09,950 --> 03:01:14,270
I'm going to let Mr. Williams make the motion in a minute because I don't make a motion.

1650
03:01:14,990 --> 03:01:19,310
I am supportive of this change in full transparency.

1651
03:01:20,030 --> 03:01:24,870
I would point out that part of the investment that you've made in this county

1652
03:01:24,870 --> 03:01:28,550
is Reef has bought the complex at the boardwalk.

1653
03:01:29,310 --> 03:01:31,190
I own a business at the boardwalk,

1654
03:01:31,630 --> 03:01:35,690
and our only business relationship is I pay you rent every month.

1655
03:01:36,050 --> 03:01:39,970
You are my landlord, Reef is my landlord, so in full transparency,

1656
03:01:40,350 --> 03:01:41,470
I will disclose that.

1657
03:01:41,770 --> 03:01:44,930
That will not prevent me from voting on this tonight.

1658
03:01:45,850 --> 03:01:46,990
Mr. Chairman, I'll move.

1659
03:01:47,150 --> 03:01:49,190
We approve the Mr. Mayor's submit.

1660
03:01:50,070 --> 03:01:50,370
Second.

1661
03:01:50,370 --> 03:01:59,370
Then properly move in second that we approve rezoning application or EZ 2024-06, all those in favour of signify by saying aye.

1662
03:02:00,710 --> 03:02:01,050
Aye.

1663
03:02:01,730 --> 03:02:04,850
Any opposed motion passes unanimously, Mr. Barnes.

1664
03:02:05,450 --> 03:02:06,390
So, well, thank you.

1665
03:02:06,650 --> 03:02:11,530
Then properly move in second that we adjourn all those in favour signify by saying aye.

1666
03:02:11,750 --> 03:02:13,390
All those opposed meetings adjourn.