1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:12,280 Mason, for a short period of time. These are commonly used at construction sites, outdoor events, or after natural disasters, when permanent power is not available. 2 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:24,180 To install a temporary poll, a permit must be pulled by licensed electrical contractor to ensure that the setup is safe and complies with electrical code requirement. 3 00:00:24,180 --> 00:00:30,620 If you have any questions about how to get a tip poll permit, please contact our office. 4 00:05:00,370 --> 00:05:02,190 We'll give another 60 seconds. 5 00:05:32,420 --> 00:05:44,460 Good afternoon, everyone. Today is September 3rd, 2026, it's 303 PM, and it's the 6 00:05:44,460 --> 00:05:52,900 regular schedule of parks and sustainability committee. Today we have some special discussions and 7 00:05:52,900 --> 00:05:54,620 Join me in chamber today. 8 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:57,460 We have Councilwoman Betsy Rui. 9 00:05:57,560 --> 00:05:59,300 We have Councilwoman Crystal Bass. 10 00:05:59,940 --> 00:06:01,340 Nobody on virtual. 11 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:03,280 I am Councilman Khalil Batchon. 12 00:06:03,540 --> 00:06:04,340 I'm the chair of this committee. 13 00:06:05,380 --> 00:06:09,160 We have a excused absence for my Vice Chair, 14 00:06:09,260 --> 00:06:10,760 Councilwoman Paul McCrainie. 15 00:06:11,500 --> 00:06:14,600 We will get started with item number one. 16 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:20,440 Special discussion, ID 26-119 Urban Forest Master Plan 17 00:06:21,100 --> 00:06:25,900 Overview, and it looks like we have Ms. Cindy Sullivan with trees over here. 18 00:06:26,260 --> 00:06:34,920 Please, if you don't mind, come on up and give us your overview, name and title for the record, please. 19 00:06:44,100 --> 00:06:44,520 There we go. 20 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:51,320 My name is Cindy Sullivan, and I am the President and CEO of Trees Louisville, and I'm here 21 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:58,160 to talk to you guys today about the Genesis and the process of the Urban Force Master Plan. 22 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:12,880 So the story starts in 2023 in December, the Metro Council dedicated allocated $200,000 to 23 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:16,000 trees Louisville to conduct an urban forest master plan. 24 00:07:17,460 --> 00:07:19,880 So what is an urban forest master plan? 25 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:20,940 What is our tree plan? 26 00:07:22,100 --> 00:07:25,220 We're looking at it, it's basically, hang on, we'll get my folder. 27 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:34,760 Well, we have that small intermission. We have been joined by the famous councilman, Anthony Piaz 28 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:35,000 team. 29 00:07:40,070 --> 00:07:43,130 And you would think that I've done this before, but anyway, 30 00:07:45,810 --> 00:07:46,770 it, a urban force master plan 31 00:07:46,770 --> 00:07:56,010 is basically a huge community engagement and awareness mission, right? So we spent 19 months 32 00:07:56,010 --> 00:08:04,630 And had many, many meetings, and the reason that we were doing this is because we know that 33 00:08:04,630 --> 00:08:07,250 we've got a problem here in Louisville with our urban forest. 34 00:08:08,390 --> 00:08:15,070 And the urban forest is extremely important to the health and the quality of life of this 35 00:08:15,070 --> 00:08:15,470 community. 36 00:08:15,990 --> 00:08:18,590 There's impact on public health. 37 00:08:18,890 --> 00:08:23,530 We know that Louisville is dealing with heat stress, more frequent in severe storms, droughts 38 00:08:23,530 --> 00:08:26,630 floods and more from the changing climate. 39 00:08:27,270 --> 00:08:29,150 And we're looking to revitalize our city. 40 00:08:29,390 --> 00:08:34,130 Since 2020, we all will admit that Louisville's 41 00:08:34,130 --> 00:08:37,670 particularly the center of city needs some work. 42 00:08:39,050 --> 00:08:41,810 So for existing residents to stay competitive 43 00:08:41,810 --> 00:08:44,630 in the economic realm and to attract new residents 44 00:08:44,630 --> 00:08:47,310 and new businesses and to retain that talent. 45 00:08:48,010 --> 00:08:51,650 And then there is the sad story from a red lining 46 00:08:51,650 --> 00:08:57,790 from the 1930s and we know that Louisville is, we are working always to prioritize and address 47 00:08:57,790 --> 00:09:03,130 and remediate historical inequitable practices in marginalized communities. 48 00:09:03,430 --> 00:09:09,770 It's a bedrock principle that for Louisville to prosper every single neighborhood needs to thrive. 49 00:09:10,010 --> 00:09:11,230 And that's what we're working for. 50 00:09:12,190 --> 00:09:18,310 So the Urban Forest Master Plan was a partnership with Metro Parks and obviously Metro Council. 51 00:09:18,310 --> 00:09:28,110 And lots of other city agencies, we, again, hired a consulting service, urban canopy 52 00:09:28,110 --> 00:09:34,790 works, a female owned business in North Kentucky, Newport Kentucky, and they spent several 53 00:09:34,790 --> 00:09:36,410 months doing research and analysis. 54 00:09:36,830 --> 00:09:45,510 They looked at tree canopy trends, not just in Louisville, but with our peer cities and 55 00:09:45,510 --> 00:09:52,950 management practices in other cities, and we looked at planting strategies, invasives, 56 00:09:53,190 --> 00:09:59,970 natives, impact of climate, previous efforts, and review of operations and... 57 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:23,280 And policies. So that took up quite a bit of time. And the map that I'm showing you indicates you're the percent change in canopy from 2012 to 2019. The biggest losses are the darkest burgundy colors and the biggest gains are that dark green. And you can see we didn't gain very much between 2012 and 2019. 58 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:24,200 That's a nice question. 59 00:10:25,380 --> 00:10:33,460 So, I'm going to point out the Southwestern part of that map there, like biggest losses. 60 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:39,120 I mean, let's use the very bottom left hand corner there. 61 00:10:39,500 --> 00:10:44,760 There's not been that much development in since 2019 to now. 62 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:48,800 How are we losing that much percentage in trees? 63 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:51,940 This was actually 2012 to 2019. 64 00:10:51,940 --> 00:11:00,240 And so we were still seeing losses from Emerald Ashfore that took out millions of trees. 65 00:11:03,540 --> 00:11:11,320 And it does vary in that area between minus 19 and minus 2, so that's quite a bit of variation. 66 00:11:13,220 --> 00:11:14,860 That could also be storms. 67 00:11:14,860 --> 00:11:21,080 It could be other disease problems, weather conditions, all those things. 68 00:11:21,340 --> 00:11:22,880 It's not necessarily always development. 69 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:31,640 And then the discovery, a period of the Urban Force Master Plan, this is a very busy slide, 70 00:11:31,780 --> 00:11:35,920 I know, I don't expect you to go through all of this, but just keep in mind, we were very 71 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:37,340 busy for those 19 months. 72 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:42,700 We had an advisory group of 115 people that met three times for two hour workshops. 73 00:11:42,700 --> 00:11:48,700 We had an equity council that was composed of people from West Louisville and Southwest Louisville 74 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:59,980 because we know that those are the areas of lowest canopy. We did a survey. We had one-on-one interviews with agencies and other non-profit organizations. 75 00:12:00,500 --> 00:12:10,060 We tabled at events and we met with more than 500 people at various conferences and social and civic meetings. 76 00:12:10,060 --> 00:12:19,740 So, it was very involved that we even had a ban or a poster at the Lynn family stadium during soccer games. 77 00:12:20,620 --> 00:12:29,460 So, what we found during this process is canopy cover does show significant changes by neighborhood. 78 00:12:29,460 --> 00:12:39,720 Some are as low as 13% some are up to 66% so I don't have to tell you probably the 13% canopy is in West Louisville 66 is in East Louisville 79 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:43,560 Our current system is street tree management is not equitable 80 00:12:43,560 --> 00:12:51,220 We know that because the system results in less trees and those existing trees to be in poor condition in lower income areas 81 00:12:51,220 --> 00:12:56,080 And you can look at the pictures and there's a couple of residential streets 82 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:59,660 But I also want you to pay mind to the top photograph. 83 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:01,320 That's Frankford Avenue. 84 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:04,300 This is one of our biggest economic corridors. 85 00:13:05,380 --> 00:13:08,020 And this, because the adjacent property owner 86 00:13:08,020 --> 00:13:12,080 is responsible for that tree, maybe they don't know 87 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:13,860 that they're responsible, or maybe they just 88 00:13:13,860 --> 00:13:14,900 don't want to do it. 89 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:19,100 But this is not the way we want our economic business 90 00:13:19,100 --> 00:13:20,240 corridors to look. 91 00:13:20,860 --> 00:13:23,360 So that's, I think, really important to point out. 92 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:32,340 And then there were also lots of people during the meetings that called for more coordinated efforts between agencies. 93 00:13:32,740 --> 00:13:38,940 Trees are public infrastructure. They are vital city infrastructure and that's something that we all need to realize. 94 00:13:39,680 --> 00:13:46,300 And success looks like being able to walk and bike and take the bus under shade and not be heat stressed when you're moving around the city. 95 00:13:47,680 --> 00:14:12,080 And, you know, again, these are some of the conditions that were found street trees not being maintained, results in more storm damage and higher cost and management decisions are made by people that don't have the expertise that urban forest or professional urban foresters do. 96 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:20,440 And if that increases inequity throughout our city and lots of street trees are in poor condition and many residents don't want new trees 97 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:27,190 So improving the canopy is difficult because trees that are high risk or into climb scare people 98 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:37,960 So the goals of the master plan were for it all came down to having access for all so to prioritize every neighborhood having at least 30% canopy 99 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:45,160 There needs to be a mentality change so that we recognize trees as vital city structure 100 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:50,460 infrastructure that they are, people need to be able to walk and bike comfortably in their 101 00:14:50,460 --> 00:14:52,560 neighborhoods and to get to and from work. 102 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:59,960 And then we also need to create a long-lived high quality and sustainable urban forest. 103 00:15:00,180 --> 00:15:06,440 To ensure that people can get to where they need to be and that it lasts for many generations. 104 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:18,380 So, the plan was led by like Trees Louisville and Metro Parks, but there were lots of other departments within Metro government that participated. 105 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:24,200 You can see that list. Other agencies also were involved in the decision-making process and the findings. 106 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:34,900 And then there were two Council representatives on the advisory group in the advisory group, and that was Councilwoman Betsy Rui and Councilman Andrew Owen. 107 00:15:36,140 --> 00:15:39,720 So the path forward. I gave everyone has the handout. 108 00:15:40,300 --> 00:15:41,780 Thank you very much. 109 00:15:42,900 --> 00:15:53,320 So there were 20 findings, 20 different findings, and there were then 10 strategies developed to work on over time. 110 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:59,060 those strategies. And each strategy has several different 111 00:15:59,060 --> 00:16:04,480 action items, and I will tell you that we are very proud of the fact that since 112 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:11,640 last September, we have started and sometimes even completed more than half of those 113 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:18,420 33 action items. So there are lots of organizations and agencies in the community 114 00:16:18,420 --> 00:16:23,300 that are working very hard already on implementing this plan, so we're very excited about 115 00:16:23,300 --> 00:16:30,420 that. There's one other thing that I want to mention before I wrap up, 116 00:16:32,770 --> 00:16:34,470 given that today is 117 00:16:34,470 --> 00:16:44,490 has a heat index of 111 degrees. You have all just announced yesterday the release of an updated 118 00:16:44,490 --> 00:16:51,650 Louisville heat mitigation study, Dr. Brian Stone from Georgia Tech University did a study in 2016 119 00:16:51,650 --> 00:16:57,930 and then returned this year to do another study, we are the first city in the United States 120 00:16:58,650 --> 00:17:05,690 to duplicate those studies and his findings are very significant. He found that we are definitely getting hotter 121 00:17:05,690 --> 00:17:13,670 and again there's lots of inequity and he also states that trees and urban tree canopy 122 00:17:13,670 --> 00:17:18,750 are the most efficient, economical, and effective means of reducing heat. 123 00:17:18,750 --> 00:17:28,270 Just planting 50% of available spaces within neighborhood, for instance, can reduce the heat 124 00:17:28,270 --> 00:17:29,830 by seven degrees. 125 00:17:30,550 --> 00:17:37,510 And that's from his study that I sent all of you guys a copy of that, the press release 126 00:17:37,510 --> 00:17:42,350 so that you can access it should be in your inbox by the time you get back to your offices. 127 00:17:43,190 --> 00:17:44,510 And that's all I have. 128 00:17:44,510 --> 00:17:46,850 Thank you so much. 129 00:17:47,550 --> 00:17:53,230 Real quick, I have been joined by Councilwoman Jennifer Chapel, and also I have to read 130 00:17:53,230 --> 00:18:00,150 this meeting is being held percent to care of 61.826 and Councilwoman May we have been joined 131 00:18:00,150 --> 00:18:06,510 virtually by Councilwoman May I share Paula McCraeney. 132 00:18:07,410 --> 00:18:10,340 Any questions on First Indie? 133 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:19,380 Thank you Mr. Chair, so we discussed this, but I'd just like to reiterate some things 134 00:18:19,380 --> 00:18:25,620 that we discussed, you know, I think, discussed privately in a public forum here. 135 00:18:26,120 --> 00:18:28,020 You know, I think there's some great stuff here. 136 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:30,780 I really don't have any problem with the plan per se, right? 137 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:40,300 We're going to talk a little bit about, I think the, I think, 138 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:46,900 But this is a resolution, right, essentially what we're saying here and I think I just want to make sure I got your intent. 139 00:18:47,580 --> 00:18:51,180 What we're saying here is that, yes, we appreciate the work that was done here. 140 00:18:51,460 --> 00:18:55,680 There's a plan behind this work and that we agree with the plan. 141 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:57,640 Doesn't mean we have all the budgets sorted out. 142 00:18:57,820 --> 00:18:59,080 Doesn't mean we have the whole plan sorted out. 143 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:01,360 We still need to work on all of that, right? 144 00:19:01,580 --> 00:19:04,920 But we're saying that at least from a strategy point of view. 145 00:19:05,820 --> 00:19:13,140 We agree with these fundamental principles and action items and you know some of it may be able to get done very quickly 146 00:19:13,140 --> 00:19:17,980 Some of it might take longer and that will have to be sorted out through operating budgets and all this stuff 147 00:19:17,980 --> 00:19:20,720 I think that's what we're getting at here. Is that that makes sense? 148 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:22,760 That is perfectly correct. Absolutely. 149 00:19:23,180 --> 00:19:24,620 Terrific. Thank you very much. Appreciate it. 150 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:26,660 Thank you. Thanks for your support. 151 00:19:26,660 --> 00:19:32,400 I'm going to ask a question, you know, to that, to kind of piggyback a little bit off 152 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:38,160 of the Councilman Piaugetini's point though, do you've gotten half of this list already 153 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:38,540 completed? 154 00:19:39,260 --> 00:19:40,040 No, in progress. 155 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:40,700 In progress. 156 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:47,060 What does, why do we need to move something forward as far as a resolution if you're already 157 00:19:47,060 --> 00:19:47,640 doing the work? 158 00:19:50,450 --> 00:19:56,710 Well, that's a good question, it's, I think, a show of support to get the other half done 159 00:19:56,710 --> 00:19:59,190 Is part of it? 160 00:19:59,410 --> 00:19:59,430 Okay. 161 00:19:59,670 --> 00:19:59,970 And I- 162 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:19,460 I think, I mean, this is a comprehensive plan that Metro Council requested. And so, and we did a great job getting it done. It was a lot of hard work, and I think there's a lot to be said for that acknowledgement that this is a good plan and that you're behind it. 163 00:20:19,460 --> 00:20:26,160 would you like to touch maybe a little bit on on some of the financial barriers that you're going to 164 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:32,500 and roadblocks that you may not have with this current plan and what needs to be done to execute? 165 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:41,460 Well, let me say one thing in regard to financial barriers that when we're the one thing that's really quite important is 166 00:20:41,460 --> 00:20:50,060 is a tree's Louisville, we realize that improving canopy is extremely difficult when people 167 00:20:50,060 --> 00:20:57,000 have high risk trees or mature trees that look scary and dangerous that are dropping branches. 168 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:02,520 That is a real and serious barrier to canopy improvement. 169 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:09,180 No one wants new trees when they think of trees as being dangerous and shady and causing 170 00:21:09,180 --> 00:21:10,000 them a lot of work. 171 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:28,520 So one of the things that trees Louisville, one of the action items that trees Louisville has implemented is implementing is we got we have a grant from a local foundation to help private citizens with trees on their property deal with those trees. 172 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:39,700 So our team of certified arborists will evaluate those trees using the tree risk assessment qualifications that we have from ISA and if the tree needs to come down 173 00:21:39,700 --> 00:21:45,880 We will pay for that out of these funds if the tree needs to be pruned we will pay for that out of these funds 174 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:49,880 So that is action item. Let me see if I can find it 175 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:59,980 Because I'm not looking at it. I have to cut my glasses on to do this a point one 176 00:22:04,180 --> 00:22:10,720 Just for clarification though when they a homeowner agrees to say taking out a tree through that grant program 177 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:19,870 They have to promise to plant one or two trees in replacement and that's facilitated by 178 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:23,960 trees level and their native species and they're 179 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:28,720 They have a care plan is that correct that is correct. It's not a tree removal initiative 180 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:43,600 It is a tree canopy improvement project, so we will help you if you've got a bad tree, but you have to sign a contract that you're going to maintain the new trees. 181 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:54,000 And then the second part of that grant is also to find ways to repurpose that urban wood to try and help put more funding into our community forest. 182 00:22:54,000 --> 00:23:04,720 So there are lots of higher purposes for urban wood than just mulch and animal petting, furniture, lumber, biochar. 183 00:23:04,900 --> 00:23:14,580 There's lots of things that you can utilize to, you can use that wood for to a higher purpose and perhaps create a funding stream. 184 00:23:14,580 --> 00:23:15,720 Thank you. 185 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:16,580 Councilmember Piazji. 186 00:23:18,860 --> 00:23:19,820 Thank you. 187 00:23:20,260 --> 00:23:26,640 Cindy, I want to get your thoughts on a hopefully what is considered a minor clarifying 188 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:31,760 amendment for the resolution, but before I make it, and I'm not making a motion, just 189 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:32,140 to be clear. 190 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:36,700 I'm really running a by-you, and I want to see if you have any significant objections 191 00:23:36,700 --> 00:23:38,200 to the way I'm wording this, right? 192 00:23:38,700 --> 00:23:44,400 Because when I read the, again, we did talk about how I think in the past, my concern as 193 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:51,880 always been that, in some cases, the administration will take resolutions and then start doing things 194 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:56,660 without having a plan, having a budget, having support of council, on tactically how they're doing it, 195 00:23:56,680 --> 00:24:01,480 and all of these things. Like for example, in my humble opinion, we need to implement all of this on 196 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:07,940 metro property in a right of way and then we can phase it out to areas of need, right where there's 197 00:24:07,940 --> 00:24:12,800 financial aid or disproportionate impact in all of these other things. So we can do this in a very, 198 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:19,560 smart way over a period of time. Section 3 is an example. Focus on Section 2 and Section 199 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:22,720 3 of your resolution. If you want to pull it up, if you've got it in front of you. 200 00:24:26,180 --> 00:24:29,700 I went to the actual resolution. I don't have a copy of that. 201 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:36,020 So the right now reads Section 2. The Council urges that, so Section 1, the Council fully 202 00:24:36,020 --> 00:24:41,120 supports the level of tree plant strategies. No question. The, at least for me, no question. 203 00:24:41,120 --> 00:24:46,080 The Council urges the necessary measure agencies to move forward with implementation of the 204 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:47,280 Louisville tree plan. 205 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:53,580 I might say something like move forward with planning for the implementation of the Louisville 206 00:24:53,580 --> 00:24:54,480 tree plan. 207 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:59,040 And then in section three something like, is it your reads, the Council request the administration 208 00:24:59,040 --> 00:24:59,900 followed the Louisville. 209 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:06,400 Tremus, strategies, 100%, but we know there's a financial impact the way I might reward this to say the Council 210 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:10,920 request the administration for all the local tree plan strategies, and it's planning with implementation 211 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:17,440 contingent on future approval through a Metro Council budget or operating plan. Again, I'm the spitballing 212 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:22,500 something that I've come up with. I wanted to hear from you if this still aligns with what your intention 213 00:25:22,500 --> 00:25:27,900 here is because I think it's important to communicate to the people that worked on this, that we appreciate 214 00:25:27,900 --> 00:25:33,260 this work and we do want to adopt this plan. I know I do. But I also want to be realistic with 215 00:25:33,260 --> 00:25:37,940 people about, you know, look, there is a financial impact. This is not going to happen overnight. 216 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:44,320 I think we all realize that. And all of everything in Metro is contingent upon budgeting and all 217 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:53,260 that stuff. Any thoughts about some of the recommended or my idea on amending that section here? 218 00:25:53,820 --> 00:25:58,300 those language changes, I think, are absolutely fine with me. You're spitball. 219 00:25:59,200 --> 00:25:59,620 Hit right there. 220 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:00,420 Okay, great. 221 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:01,460 I think that's perfect. 222 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:02,740 Because that's the intent. 223 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:04,520 Yeah. And I think so too. 224 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:10,500 And I think it's something that's the only concern I have is that it's 225 00:26:10,500 --> 00:26:16,440 it's misconstrued as itself being the authorizing document versus this is the authorization 226 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:19,600 for us to say we are adopting this and we're going to work to implement it, 227 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:22,880 but we still need to go through the regular process to make sure all this is implemented. 228 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:24,760 So, but I appreciate it. 229 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:25,760 We should work on this. 230 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:28,140 You could make those language changes, 231 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:29,700 and then you would also be a sponsor. 232 00:26:30,020 --> 00:26:30,380 A co-sponsor. 233 00:26:30,540 --> 00:26:30,940 There we go. 234 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:32,240 Thank you very much. 235 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:36,120 Councilwoman Vass. 236 00:26:41,900 --> 00:26:44,040 Turnery Mone notes over here. 237 00:26:45,580 --> 00:26:51,600 So, part of this plan, I know that, is any of this 238 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:55,620 look to be contracted out in order to get it done? 239 00:26:56,140 --> 00:26:58,240 Or is this all going to be done in house? 240 00:26:58,480 --> 00:26:58,900 Do you know? 241 00:26:58,900 --> 00:27:04,200 Oh, no, sure. There's contractual agreements in place right now, and I think that those 242 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:05,280 are definitely going to continue. 243 00:27:06,340 --> 00:27:07,520 So, we are contract. 244 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:08,540 I get it then. 245 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:14,880 That's not to say that on page six, I had wrote down where you all were talking about the 246 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:18,160 dark red areas with the higher percentage of areas. 247 00:27:18,660 --> 00:27:24,890 Is there something that shows, like, can we get where it shows, like, exactly what the 248 00:27:24,890 --> 00:27:30,230 results of that was how they came up with that, like the decrease in those areas or what 249 00:27:30,230 --> 00:27:31,410 the calls was. 250 00:27:31,810 --> 00:27:32,410 Yes, definitely. 251 00:27:32,690 --> 00:27:37,670 I'm glad you asked that, too, Councilwoman Bass, because you can get all the information 252 00:27:37,670 --> 00:27:46,910 from the Urban Forest Master Plan on the website LouisvilleTreePlan.org, so that it will have 253 00:27:46,910 --> 00:27:54,870 information on the Urban Tree canopy assessment where these data came from, as well as, you 254 00:27:54,870 --> 00:27:57,730 and the research that our team did. 255 00:27:58,570 --> 00:27:59,790 LouisvilleTreePlan.org. 256 00:28:00,210 --> 00:28:04,810 It will also have a listing of the action items 257 00:28:04,810 --> 00:28:08,990 and who actually is working on them and what the progress is being made. 258 00:28:10,470 --> 00:28:15,890 And then just to kind of touch off of what Councilman Piaugentini said about 259 00:28:15,890 --> 00:28:21,550 our own properties are in dire need of tree canopy work 260 00:28:21,550 --> 00:28:24,510 that has been years and years in the making. 261 00:28:25,630 --> 00:28:28,770 And some of the examples of pictures of trees you showed 262 00:28:28,770 --> 00:28:31,070 in residential areas that we are going 263 00:28:31,070 --> 00:28:34,710 after the adjacent property owners for our own properties 264 00:28:34,710 --> 00:28:35,830 look like that. 265 00:28:36,130 --> 00:28:40,330 So I'm just trying to figure out how do we, as council, 266 00:28:41,050 --> 00:28:45,290 pass along to this person that they're responsible for this tree 267 00:28:45,290 --> 00:28:48,810 that looks this way, yet our own trees look this way. 268 00:28:48,930 --> 00:28:50,230 I think it's a bad practice. 269 00:28:50,230 --> 00:28:56,410 I think it don't look good, so I just think we need to figure out our own properties first, 270 00:28:57,090 --> 00:29:01,930 then we can educate and help with the others. 271 00:29:02,370 --> 00:29:08,170 And I think that that's actually item 1.3, we'll address that over time. 272 00:29:08,310 --> 00:29:13,450 I think that it is important for Louisville Metro government to take over the maintenance 273 00:29:13,450 --> 00:29:17,090 of right-of-way trees to set a good example for one thing, as you say. 274 00:29:17,090 --> 00:29:29,090 And it improves the equity and it also puts that in the hands of professionals, the maintenance and the care of those trees. 275 00:29:29,810 --> 00:29:30,250 Yeah. 276 00:29:30,330 --> 00:29:32,010 Because I mean, we know it's expensive. 277 00:29:32,430 --> 00:29:43,610 We have a lot of big older trees in our area that are, unfortunately, in right ways, in seniors' yards that are on set-in comes that they just don't have the funding. 278 00:29:43,610 --> 00:29:52,110 And I think that's a lot of the problem with the, with the tree cannabis in our area that, you know, I mean the last big storm we had 279 00:29:52,110 --> 00:29:59,970 Hit my area very, very hard and a lot of it was old big trees that haven't been maintained and maintenance over the years that caught 280 00:30:01,060 --> 00:30:28,820 And one of the things that I have preached my entire career is that if you've got trees that you are maintaining regularly, if you can get a tree professional to come in every two or three years to do some maintenance, you will have a tree that will definitely be strong and will live as long as it possibly can, you know, complete its life cycle and give us all of the ecosystem services that trees do provide. 281 00:30:28,820 --> 00:30:32,200 I mean, that is so important because it could agree with you more. 282 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:38,040 And I agree, but when you're trying to talk to an 83-year-old that's on a setting 283 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:44,440 come that, you know, some of these tree quotes they're getting are seven to $10,000 284 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:45,940 for these massive trees. 285 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:49,200 So it's a tough pill to swallow. 286 00:30:49,620 --> 00:30:53,840 Yeah, and I think I've asked every one of you guys to keep a running list 287 00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:55,640 of your constituents that call in. 288 00:30:55,640 --> 00:31:05,300 We had to your point a couple of weeks ago, we looked at a 72-inch oak in a neighborhood in District 3, I think. 289 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:11,740 And the estimate to remove it was $30,000 because of where it was and how big it was. 290 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:14,220 Who could afford that? 291 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:17,480 So we need to figure it out. 292 00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:17,880 Sure. 293 00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:18,540 All right. 294 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:20,220 Thank you. 295 00:31:20,660 --> 00:31:22,280 And maybe that's, go ahead. 296 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:26,300 I was going to say maybe that's a good segue and to having parks come up. 297 00:31:27,500 --> 00:31:28,200 Councilwoman Berber. 298 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:29,340 Okay. 299 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:32,860 Do you find down those notes on how to change that language? 300 00:31:34,740 --> 00:31:35,680 Yeah, I'm very curious. 301 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:36,660 Thank you. 302 00:31:36,820 --> 00:31:39,660 Councilman, Pigeon, Tina, for your obvious support of this. 303 00:31:40,420 --> 00:31:42,140 And thank you, Cindy and everybody. 304 00:31:42,340 --> 00:31:44,380 It's reasonable for all you work on this. 305 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:46,340 And this is really important. 306 00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:50,680 And as we're finding from the discussion over here it seems like one of the most important 307 00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:57,940 steps here and ultimately probably the most expensive one is taking over street trees and being 308 00:31:57,940 --> 00:32:03,000 able to maintain them and keep them healthy because that's also part of changing the mindset 309 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:07,780 because a lot of people they don't want to put a tree in because yeah it comes down to it 310 00:32:07,780 --> 00:32:13,240 then how do I pay for taking it out or managing it and so yes we have to have a funding stream 311 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:21,400 I'm just curious, you talk about developing a funding stream with dead tree parts. 312 00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:28,960 So, do you, and I know one of the issues that we've got with trees that are street trees 313 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:32,000 and stuff is too many times to get things nailed in them. 314 00:32:32,500 --> 00:32:38,800 Do we have the technology available in a saw mill nearby that can detect that so we don't 315 00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:39,780 screw up blades? 316 00:32:41,020 --> 00:32:47,140 That is a challenge when you're working with Urban Trees, absolutely, and yes, we are working on that. 317 00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:54,560 I mean, part of the team at Trees Louisville is going up to Baltimore and D.C. at the end of the month. 318 00:32:54,840 --> 00:33:00,880 And we're going to look at the Urban Wood Reuse project that they have there. 319 00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:04,120 and they actually sell urban wood to 320 00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:11,800 room in board, you know, that they used to make furniture, and that's, you know, a national furniture company. 321 00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:14,020 So, it is possible, 322 00:33:18,260 --> 00:33:21,060 if it can be done, we can get it done. 323 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:23,680 I would love to see that. 324 00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:27,040 Yeah, it's pretty exciting. And I will say too, that, I mean, 325 00:33:30,220 --> 00:33:35,020 The Morton Harbor Readam is a bit of a different situation because they're not talking about urban trees, 326 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:41,860 but when they lose trees in the Harbor Readam, they cut slabs and cookies and they've made hundreds of thousands of dollars from those sales. 327 00:33:42,460 --> 00:33:45,040 So, fingers crossed we can get something done. 328 00:33:46,100 --> 00:33:49,860 Okay, thank you very much and I look forward to the voting else on this. 329 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:50,500 Thank you. 330 00:33:50,820 --> 00:33:52,120 Thank you, no further questions. 331 00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:53,500 Thank you, Cindy, for your presentation. 332 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:57,480 Up next is item number two. 333 00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:03,800 We have ID 26126136 Financial Impact Statement Overview, 334 00:34:04,140 --> 00:34:08,660 Michelle King, and Dr. Masuda, a Global Parks and Recs. 335 00:34:16,730 --> 00:34:18,030 Good afternoon, everyone. 336 00:34:18,510 --> 00:34:21,290 I'm Michelle King, I'm Executive Director of Louisville Parks 337 00:34:21,290 --> 00:34:23,510 and Recreation, and I'm here with. 338 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:29,200 I'm Ms. Sudo's director, 339 00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:33,140 So let us send Director Oversing Urban Post for the Division at the Liberal Parks and 340 00:34:33,140 --> 00:34:34,060 Recreation Department. 341 00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:41,720 So we are here today to give a presentation walking through the financial impact study 342 00:34:41,720 --> 00:34:49,180 that was prepared at the Council's request and I'll start out with an MS today and I will 343 00:34:49,180 --> 00:34:51,740 be kind of transitioning and tag teaming throughout the presentation. 344 00:34:51,740 --> 00:34:59,960 But I want to just set the stage for what we're presenting here today, the Financial Impact Study. 345 00:35:01,180 --> 00:35:12,940 We're talking about what we are presenting, and what we're not here today doing. First of all, we want to make sure that we are explaining the study that was prepared for your request. 346 00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:29,820 We'll identify which of those urban forest master plan actions were included in the request and why that was, as Cindy just informed you all there are 33 actions, and obviously you can see that we're not nearly that many included in the impact study. 347 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:36,580 We'll also describe what are the assumptions and the types of resources that we included in our analysis. 348 00:35:37,620 --> 00:35:46,300 And we're hoping that what we can provide for you today gives you some context for your consideration of the plan and its potential future implementation. 349 00:35:47,140 --> 00:35:55,600 What we're not here today to do is to represent any specific endorsement of the plan or an implementation strategy for the plan. 350 00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:02,500 Often, when departments bring you this kind of information with all of these dollars and figures attached, 351 00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:07,100 it's an appropriation discussion or a budget discussion, obviously, that's not why we're here today, 352 00:36:07,240 --> 00:36:13,780 so just reminding folks that we're here at your request because you asked us for information, 353 00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:15,460 so that you could inform your discussion. 354 00:36:15,700 --> 00:36:20,420 And that is our number one goal here today is to make sure that we're providing clear information 355 00:36:20,420 --> 00:36:27,560 and making ourselves available to answer your questions about what some potential strategies 356 00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:29,360 for implementation would look like. 357 00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:34,720 We are not necessarily here to recommend any specific model of adoption, so we've mentioned 358 00:36:34,720 --> 00:36:41,680 before, there could be different ways to implement the strategies and actions that are contained 359 00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:47,000 in the plan, so we want to talk you through what it looks like when we tried to put some 360 00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,420 figures to those actions. 361 00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:58,840 So, as we mentioned, the financial impact study, we worked with the 362 00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:05,220 action items in the plan that one would have responsibilities for low-vomitro government, 363 00:37:05,420 --> 00:37:11,500 as Cindy talked through, this is a community-wide canopy plan, a community-wide for a street plan. 364 00:37:11,500 --> 00:37:25,160 So, not all of those recommendations are ones that require action by Metro government or even with those that do require action, they don't necessarily all incur a financial impact. 365 00:37:25,420 --> 00:37:39,580 So, we went out that down to looking at seven different actions. Six of those are included in the total resources, the dollar figure that we ultimately came to at the end. 366 00:37:39,580 --> 00:37:43,780 Those are ones where we know that there would be financial, 367 00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:46,320 identifiable financial impacts to Metro government. 368 00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:50,200 One of those, we also said, hey, this is a financial impact 369 00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:52,480 to little bit of Metro government, but we've already 370 00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:56,240 incurred it because it's one of those actions of 17 actions 371 00:37:56,240 --> 00:37:57,740 that is already underway. 372 00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:01,820 It's already been funded and is nearly complete. 373 00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:03,160 We'll talk about that later. 374 00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:08,360 So those other 26 out of the 33 actions, they are not included in this 375 00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:13,280 financial impact study, they either weren't our responsibility or they wouldn't have 376 00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:14,780 quantifiable financial impacts. 377 00:38:18,700 --> 00:38:30,820 So just as an overview here, we included some existing resources, so personnel in particular 378 00:38:30,820 --> 00:38:36,520 that are already budgeted and part of our operations, local parks and recreation, of course, 379 00:38:36,820 --> 00:38:38,320 houses the urban forestry division. 380 00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:43,580 We have the charge to care for parks and parkway trees. 381 00:38:43,820 --> 00:38:50,180 We also have a team of quarter-culture professionals that care for our natural spaces within 382 00:38:50,180 --> 00:38:55,040 our parks, our landscaping beds, and also take care of the thousands of young trees 383 00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:59,620 that we have planted across parks in parkways over the last several years. 384 00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:04,780 So those 2.1 million dollars is included in the total. 385 00:39:04,780 --> 00:39:16,660 We'll spend a lot of time here today talking about what new resources need to be added in order to meet the charge of these six different actions that we were included. 386 00:39:17,240 --> 00:39:32,580 So this is just a bit of a summary slide. There will be new costs that recur annually. There will also be new equipment needed to fulfill the charge in particular the street tree maintenance and care in action item 1.3. 387 00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:42,500 So those, we've included here, they show up as a total, but they don't necessarily have to be a cost that is incurred all at one time. 388 00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:46,700 So just want to make that note as you step through this. 389 00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:55,300 And then there is one impact that we said would be periodic, and that was the recommendation for an updated canopy assessment every five to ten years. 390 00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:59,180 So it's not a one time cost, but it's also not an annual cost. 391 00:40:02,290 --> 00:40:29,610 So, this is just a quick overview slide before we start diving into each of these. These are those action items that we looked at. Action item 1.3 is obviously the one that has the largest financial impact. As we stepped through these, we're going to save that one to the end. As we talk through, just because I think that's probably the one that is the most complex in its analysis and certainly the one with the largest impact. 392 00:40:30,330 --> 00:40:34,930 The cost that you'll see on this slide, you'll notice that that doesn't all add up to that 13 million. 393 00:40:35,430 --> 00:40:38,290 These are all the new costs that would be incurred. 394 00:40:38,650 --> 00:40:41,150 So again, we're really going to highlight those new costs, 395 00:40:41,430 --> 00:40:44,670 but we will show you where those existing costs come in. 396 00:40:46,470 --> 00:40:52,610 I'm going to turn this over to Masuda now to take us through some of the specifics. 397 00:40:53,590 --> 00:40:54,570 Sure. Thank you, Michelle. 398 00:40:57,420 --> 00:41:03,120 So, like Michelle mentioned, we are going to start with the easy action items. 399 00:41:04,300 --> 00:41:11,760 So, one of them is action 2.1 to add higher level urban forestry to the system. 400 00:41:12,620 --> 00:41:19,460 The plan is not necessarily pointing out what the part meant, but the main idea here is to 401 00:41:19,460 --> 00:41:30,020 able to have a professional expertise when it's about capital projects or street designs from 402 00:41:30,020 --> 00:41:37,100 the beginning of the projects to make sure that trees are included in those projects and 403 00:41:37,100 --> 00:41:41,120 for the future, the maintenance plan is also considered. 404 00:41:41,120 --> 00:42:10,640 So, one higher level urban forestry is being recommended and we, in the model that we developed, we told an administrator position would be appropriate for that purpose and then we are hoping that, you know, coordination across planning and infrastructure efforts throughout Metro government agencies and connecting to urban forestry plan with the implementation and the partners. 405 00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:15,240 would be also a task of this position to perform. 406 00:42:16,740 --> 00:42:21,660 And that is the cost of $130,000 to Metro. 407 00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:25,860 I just have this is the annual cost operating cost. 408 00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:34,280 Action. 3.1 is calling for a code enforcement capacity increase. 409 00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:35,220 So, 410 00:42:37,500 --> 00:42:48,080 the project that in Arborist would perform this kind of task, and again, the purpose here is to 411 00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:56,000 add a field inspection component to existing codes and regulations for development plan implementation. 412 00:42:57,020 --> 00:43:00,240 So, the plan is understanding their occurrences. 413 00:43:00,240 --> 00:43:06,220 There are staff members to review the plans, the development plans, but not necessarily do 414 00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:15,720 have staff members to follow up with the implementation and make sure the plan is being implemented 415 00:43:15,720 --> 00:43:19,080 correct at the way that it was developed. 416 00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:27,060 I'll just add at that point because we are talking about development plan review with that position 417 00:43:27,060 --> 00:43:31,160 that was a cost that was incurred, but there were a number of action items included in the 418 00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:34,120 strategy that talked about code reviews. 419 00:43:34,340 --> 00:43:36,740 So those weren't included in the fiscal impact, 420 00:43:36,940 --> 00:43:39,380 because that wasn't something that we could identify. 421 00:43:40,180 --> 00:43:43,660 But that position that looks at the implementation 422 00:43:43,660 --> 00:43:47,180 of development plans and ensures compliance 423 00:43:47,180 --> 00:43:50,120 with the development plans that are approved 424 00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:54,680 is part of a larger discussion in the forced master plan 425 00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:58,280 around codes and the lane development code, particularly. 426 00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:01,320 Correct, thank you, Michelle. 427 00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:08,120 Action 5.1 is calling for a workforce development program. 428 00:44:10,750 --> 00:44:13,230 We were back and forth with this action item. 429 00:44:13,650 --> 00:44:17,930 It doesn't have to be Metro government implementing this action item. 430 00:44:18,230 --> 00:44:24,590 It can be Metro government or partners or combination of Metro government and partners working together. 431 00:44:24,590 --> 00:44:33,150 So we have a great experience with this kind of program. Currently we are managing our leafy grant. 432 00:44:34,310 --> 00:44:44,490 As you may remember, we received $15 million in 2024 and workforce development program was a part of that grant. 433 00:44:44,490 --> 00:44:59,690 So, this is a Turk here. We are in that program and the program is running two sessions in a year with 60-10 people in each session and we kind of took that model. 434 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:08,840 And put that into our proposed, well, our model here, and the cost annually is going to be somewhere 435 00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:15,740 on $550,000 with two sessions between people total in that program. 436 00:45:17,340 --> 00:45:26,900 So, action 6.2 is canopy assessment. We so far, we have done two of them, as I mentioned earlier. 437 00:45:26,900 --> 00:45:37,000 The first one was it just like tracking the canopy differences between 2004, 2008 and 2012. 438 00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:44,860 And then the second study was to see the difference between 2012 and 2019. 439 00:45:45,620 --> 00:45:54,860 And current the trees level is also conducting the third one to track the differences between 2019 and on. 440 00:45:54,860 --> 00:46:04,080 So, the $150,000 cost estimate here is based on the first assessment done in 2015, because 441 00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:07,260 was $150,000 to Metro government. 442 00:46:07,740 --> 00:46:14,140 But we also do understand that the technology is improving, and the cost might be much 443 00:46:14,140 --> 00:46:18,380 than what is mentioned here. 444 00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:29,620 6.3 is tree inventory, which is not included on the slide. 445 00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:38,860 As we speak, we are conducting our metro's first-ever tree inventory digital smart inventory. 446 00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:47,080 that inventory is being done, they will resource group and we are very proud of using high 447 00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:54,900 technology and that inventory is going to be wrapped up within a few months but it's 448 00:46:54,900 --> 00:47:08,840 very nice to know how much work we have so far it was reported that they already 449 00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:13,300 possible is 70,000 more trees to be skinned. 450 00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:21,460 So we will see somewhere on 150,160,000 trees in our system, 451 00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:24,420 both parks and streets. 452 00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:34,660 Action 8.1 is suggesting a systems fund for private properties. 453 00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:41,520 We put $100,000 in the model that we developed. 454 00:47:42,300 --> 00:47:46,020 This number is again a study number. 455 00:47:46,780 --> 00:47:57,100 In 2020, Metro Council budgeted $200,000 for public tree assistance. 456 00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:02,220 So currently, unfortunately, we have run out of that fund. 457 00:48:02,220 --> 00:48:14,860 But between 2021 and 2021 and 2006, we were able to help 50 residents somewhere for the 458 00:48:14,860 --> 00:48:22,780 factories to be removed and all of those trees to be removed also had replacements and we 459 00:48:22,780 --> 00:48:24,040 is some streaming work, 460 00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:28,300 so based on what we experienced, 461 00:48:28,820 --> 00:48:34,620 we estimated $4,000 average per assistance per person, 462 00:48:34,780 --> 00:48:38,800 which is very modest, yes. 463 00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:43,520 But we told, maybe, with $100,000, 464 00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:49,020 we could help 25 residents with that kind of average cost. 465 00:48:49,780 --> 00:48:51,500 Obviously, as we heard from the conference, 466 00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:56,860 Obviously, we heard from the conversation earlier that range, that cost can range quite a bit. 467 00:48:57,300 --> 00:49:05,080 So this is just, I guess, based on previous experience with that, we'll also point out as Cindy mentioned. 468 00:49:05,860 --> 00:49:14,380 Trees' lovel has a grant. They are doing this kind of work. So this is another one of those actions that an implementation could be a Metro government led action. 469 00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:20,380 It could be a community organization and partner led action or some partnership between those two. 470 00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:29,160 So, I'm going to start with this one and then hand the numbers over to Musute A. So, actually 471 00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:37,020 1.3 is obviously the big ticket item here. And I just wanted to make sure to review what 472 00:49:37,020 --> 00:49:44,040 we're talking about here. This is going from our current responsibility, where a street tree, 473 00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:50,200 according to the plan, is, as it's defined, is the responsibility of the Jason property owner. 474 00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:59,960 I just wanted to point out the plan refers to street trees, but in its discussion it is clear that the plan street tree is the equivalent to what our... 475 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:08,080 Metro code of ordinances refers to as a public tree. So that is a tree with a base wholly or in part situated on 476 00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:13,460 Louisville Metro government owned or controlled land or in public rights of way controlled by Louisville Metro, 477 00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:20,000 excluding parks and parkways that are under the jurisdiction of Louisville Metro parks. So I just wanted to make sure that 478 00:50:20,620 --> 00:50:26,320 we understood that when we say street trees in the context of the master plan discussion, that is the equivalent of what 479 00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:28,720 our ordinances refer to as public trees. 480 00:50:29,860 --> 00:50:32,440 So according to action 1.3, the responsibility 481 00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:34,680 of the street tree care and maintenance 482 00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:37,200 would shift from that adjacent property owner 483 00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:40,160 as it is now and to Louisville Metro government. 484 00:50:41,460 --> 00:50:44,940 So obviously there's a lot of different ways to look at that. 485 00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:48,040 And so Masude and her team put together a plan 486 00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:51,600 that would implement that and we'll step through that 487 00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:53,460 in a couple of different ways and then we'll talk 488 00:50:53,460 --> 00:50:58,520 about the potential ways that may be considered for implementation. 489 00:51:00,460 --> 00:51:10,000 Michelle, do you mind on showing that slide with the division of the areas so that we have some kind of idea what we're talking about when we put it in there? 490 00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:12,960 Let me go back up. Sorry. Sorry. 491 00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:31,930 So the plan, the model we studied is based on three different management zones, regions, 492 00:51:32,110 --> 00:51:34,370 sub-everybody named them. 493 00:51:34,530 --> 00:51:37,590 This is almost like public works model. 494 00:51:38,550 --> 00:51:54,210 And the team and I just really took our time to project what is needed to implement the care and management of street trees. 495 00:51:54,890 --> 00:52:05,010 So as a site note, currently in Parks and Parkways tree inventory, which was done years ago as we work on those trees, we developed our own inventory, 496 00:52:05,010 --> 00:52:14,230 But it is limited to parks and parkways only, we do have 35,000 trees in the system, just parks and parkways. 497 00:52:15,670 --> 00:52:30,570 So as I mentioned earlier, we will be looking into having the responsibility of 152,100,000 trees, combination parkways and street trees. 498 00:52:30,570 --> 00:52:59,890 So, the model we developed is basically calling for three different districts for street management and expansion of parks and parkways in each district for streets, only having two teams and each team consists of three arborists, one supervisor, and then one manager. 499 00:52:59,890 --> 00:53:07,410 So, when you multiply it with three different regions, we will have with the administrator managing 500 00:53:07,410 --> 00:53:11,910 the entire program, there will be a sum of around two-to-one positions. 501 00:53:12,870 --> 00:53:17,390 I just want to point out that all of those details that Masuda is going through right now, 502 00:53:17,470 --> 00:53:24,550 including this map and these data points and more are all in the spreadsheet that was attached 503 00:53:24,550 --> 00:53:27,770 to the memo that you received from internal audit. 504 00:53:27,770 --> 00:53:32,630 So all of the details about the positions that would be included in those teams, 505 00:53:33,470 --> 00:53:40,790 the districts that were identified, basically it's how this model was built out to quantify costs. 506 00:53:41,310 --> 00:53:43,950 So I'm correct. So we can go back to that slide. 507 00:53:44,250 --> 00:53:45,190 We shall if you don't mind. 508 00:53:57,770 --> 00:53:59,490 With the entire program, 509 00:54:01,190 --> 00:54:01,990 with streets, 510 00:54:02,510 --> 00:54:07,170 street trees and parks and park race trees and horticultural program, 511 00:54:07,170 --> 00:54:14,130 The new recurring annual operations is going to be $4.8 million. 512 00:54:15,170 --> 00:54:22,970 And again, this includes Street 3 Maintenance Personal Cost, Contractor Planting, and 513 00:54:22,970 --> 00:54:30,050 3-year Establishment Work, and Expanded Parks, Parkways, and Horde Cultural Operations. 514 00:54:31,070 --> 00:54:40,130 So, for this model, the new initial equipment is going to cost 5.44 million. 515 00:54:40,890 --> 00:54:50,170 And again, we have divided it between current park park resource cultural operation and street operation as well. 516 00:54:50,170 --> 00:54:59,690 So basically, action 1.3 total new cost with recurring expenses. 517 00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:06,040 And initial equipment expenses, it's going to be total into 10.3 million. 518 00:55:07,720 --> 00:55:17,300 So what it means, this means is recurring, you know, new recurring expense being 4.8 million. 519 00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:25,460 And when we add our current recurring 2.1 million at the top of it, we're talking about 6.9 million 520 00:55:25,460 --> 00:55:31,300 other recurring expense to be able to run both parks, park-free source 521 00:55:31,300 --> 00:55:34,440 cultural creation and street-trial creation. 522 00:55:34,700 --> 00:55:36,980 Did you say $9 million reoccurring? 523 00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:39,620 $6.97. 524 00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:43,000 On an annual basis. 525 00:55:43,820 --> 00:55:44,480 In the project? 526 00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:52,400 That would be the total personnel contractor work for an entire urban forest 527 00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:58,360 division that includes all three trees plus that expansion of parkways, parks, and horticulture. 528 00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:09,400 When we specifically look at the only street tree maintenance operation, it's going to be 529 00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:17,400 the new recurring cost annual cost is going to be 3.83 million, again, including personnel 530 00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:21,760 and contractor to replanting and establishment work. 531 00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:25,460 Just for that section, on the street tree maintenance, 532 00:56:25,820 --> 00:56:28,660 the new initial street equipment is going to be 533 00:56:28,660 --> 00:56:33,640 a 4.3 million totaling $7.96 million, 534 00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:35,200 somewhere around $8 million. 535 00:56:35,700 --> 00:56:40,120 Again, just when we take out extension of parks and parkways 536 00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:41,840 and how the horticultural operation, 537 00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:45,620 only focusing on developing a street tree program, 538 00:56:45,620 --> 00:56:50,980 basic the metro government taking over the care and management of those trees is going to 539 00:56:50,980 --> 00:56:52,900 close somewhere on eight million dollar. 540 00:56:56,380 --> 00:57:00,480 So as we talked about, there's a lot of different ways 541 00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:06,220 that we could achieve those goals. So we wanted to put some ideas here for discussion. 542 00:57:07,140 --> 00:57:14,260 These aren't, this is by no means of implementation plan and we aren't advocating any of these 543 00:57:14,260 --> 00:57:17,120 specific ways to prioritize or to implement, 544 00:57:17,380 --> 00:57:20,600 but we wanted to give you all some ways to look at this 545 00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:23,340 to think about that large number 546 00:57:23,340 --> 00:57:27,560 and how you might get there from where we are here today, 547 00:57:27,900 --> 00:57:31,520 which is a urban forestry team covering parks and parkways 548 00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:37,120 and horticulture and parks that is $2.1 million a year. 549 00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:42,080 So some ways that we could phase this in 550 00:57:42,080 --> 00:57:44,360 or prioritize as it may be. 551 00:57:44,520 --> 00:57:49,180 There may be what service area is chosen to begin in. 552 00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:52,860 That might be, for example, you could start with, 553 00:57:53,380 --> 00:57:56,540 maybe, business districts, those kind of things. 554 00:57:56,860 --> 00:57:58,980 You might start with what kind of tree service 555 00:57:58,980 --> 00:58:05,620 is taken on by city removals versus the regular pruning 556 00:58:05,620 --> 00:58:13,320 and things that we know may help add to longevity of those street trees. 557 00:58:13,860 --> 00:58:15,600 You also might just pace this out. 558 00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:21,500 This gives you a dollar figure as if this was all going to drop in one year and that is 559 00:58:21,500 --> 00:58:24,420 not necessarily a feasible implementation plan. 560 00:58:24,660 --> 00:58:26,720 So it might be a gradual implementation. 561 00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:30,120 How this is done could also look different. 562 00:58:30,340 --> 00:58:32,660 This is contemplates a lot of in-house work. 563 00:58:32,820 --> 00:58:33,940 There could be more contractors. 564 00:58:33,940 --> 00:58:42,040 there's some combination thereof. We also can look at prioritizing areas. We saw in the urban forest 565 00:58:42,040 --> 00:58:47,760 master plan that there are some parts of town that have greater canopy need, greater risk, due to heat, 566 00:58:48,580 --> 00:58:55,120 and those health impacts you could also prioritize it due to available funding. And then you can also just take a 567 00:58:55,120 --> 00:59:02,920 look at what our existing operations are and how those might face to grow to meet more of these different 568 00:59:02,920 --> 00:59:13,300 needs or you may look into the current leafy grant implementation model that $12 million is 569 00:59:13,300 --> 00:59:23,020 being spent on tree maintenance in DV areas. So far, we are in the third year implementing 570 00:59:23,020 --> 00:59:32,380 that grant and 1,400 trees removed from public properties when we say removed on those trees 571 00:59:32,380 --> 00:59:38,520 dead or declining trees that we definitely helped so many people and then somewhere 572 00:59:38,520 --> 00:59:49,120 on 1,400, 150 stems have been removed and then we had 2,700 trees stream so it's a lot of work 573 00:59:49,120 --> 00:59:57,620 But that leafy area is representing only 23% of the entire material area. 574 00:59:58,000 --> 00:59:59,960 It can be a good model to feed. 575 01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:06,080 Thank you. I have a question and I'm going to turn it to my colleagues. 576 01:00:08,720 --> 01:00:13,960 Can you give me an estimate 577 01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:21,340 a total of what do we have currently in deferred maintenance that we need to address 578 01:00:24,570 --> 01:00:29,330 in urban 579 01:00:29,330 --> 01:00:37,190 The question, email ash borer has been issue for our department for that. 580 01:00:37,210 --> 01:00:44,110 Email ash borer is the insect basically, you know, attacking our trees and then killing 581 01:00:44,110 --> 01:00:52,070 all of the ash trees. So there is a big backlog of those ash trees still gradually declining 582 01:00:52,070 --> 01:01:00,150 or dying that we have a huge workload to catch up with and then so I don't have quantified 583 01:01:00,150 --> 01:01:05,890 numbers with the storm damages but we do experience pretty often storm damages that 584 01:01:05,890 --> 01:01:12,710 may take us from one week to even six months to work on those damages to be cleaned up 585 01:01:12,710 --> 01:01:18,710 and taking care of like for example 2007 I storm took us six months to clear all of those 586 01:01:18,710 --> 01:01:28,650 damages that was created, and then we do receive some around 200 metro calls monthly. 587 01:01:29,690 --> 01:01:39,830 These are requests coming from our partners, government agencies, residents, to asking some type of work to be performed by urban forestry. 588 01:01:40,850 --> 01:01:45,770 So, all of them together, I would assume this would be our deferred maintenance. 589 01:01:45,770 --> 01:02:01,130 in the perfect world, and it's the last thing I'll end it with, in the perfect world, if we were to fully fund this today, and with your deferred maintenance that you already are in a backlog is too cruising enough. 590 01:02:03,280 --> 01:02:11,560 Two crews per district. So total of six crews for Street 3 maintenance. We will 591 01:02:12,100 --> 01:02:20,520 mirror the same program for our Parks Park Resort Pration as well. Currently, we have only 11 592 01:02:21,280 --> 01:02:31,860 personnel in our forestry parks forestry. So is it enough? Well, I think, I don't know how to answer that question. 593 01:02:31,860 --> 01:02:40,800 I wish in an ideal word we would absolutely need more resources, but we also understand the difficulties. 594 01:02:41,500 --> 01:02:49,500 In your own analysis, I think you told me how many passes, how frequently a tree would be made by those. 595 01:02:49,920 --> 01:03:01,780 Yes, the plan is urban forestry master plan is suggesting that we need to have proactive maintenance with a 15 to 20 year rotation. 596 01:03:01,860 --> 01:03:09,400 The model we developed is basically, hopefully, going to be 597 01:03:09,400 --> 01:03:12,880 proactive in managing street trees every 10 years. 598 01:03:14,560 --> 01:03:21,820 So, each team will have 2,000 trees in a year to maintain. 599 01:03:22,360 --> 01:03:24,040 I hope it's going to give you an idea. 600 01:03:25,060 --> 01:03:31,660 So, a team of four people, three workers and one supervisor will be 601 01:03:31,660 --> 01:03:38,180 conducting maintenance program with two thousand trees for their own, you know, areas. 602 01:03:38,460 --> 01:03:43,280 So the idea is that every tree within each of these three zones, districts, whatever 603 01:03:43,280 --> 01:03:49,900 you would call it, of the city would, that tree would be visited once every 10 years for proactive 604 01:03:49,900 --> 01:03:50,460 maintenance. 605 01:03:50,700 --> 01:03:52,900 And then, of course, on top of that, there would be the reactive. 606 01:03:53,660 --> 01:03:59,040 And this is based on 120,000 trees, street trees. 607 01:03:59,800 --> 01:04:00,940 Thank you. 608 01:04:01,160 --> 01:04:01,780 Councilman Piaziting. 609 01:04:02,800 --> 01:04:03,080 Thank you. 610 01:04:04,080 --> 01:04:06,400 If you can go to slide nine, please. 611 01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:17,840 So first of all, I mean, like 90% of this cost is wrapped up in one recommendation in all of these recommendations, which is 1.3. 612 01:04:18,560 --> 01:04:26,000 The even in 1.3, and again, coming to my point earlier, I think there's an important line here, 613 01:04:26,200 --> 01:04:31,200 the very bottom, these figures describe one possible operating model, not a requested appropriation. 614 01:04:31,260 --> 01:04:35,100 We know it's not a requested appropriation, but it's also one possible operating model, 615 01:04:35,200 --> 01:04:39,380 which is like all in right now in this one idea that they've come up with. 616 01:04:40,040 --> 01:04:47,080 I think this is my point about, you know, particularly modifying the section three of the resolution just to be clear on this, 617 01:04:47,080 --> 01:04:49,940 like, you know, I think in an ideal world, 618 01:04:50,280 --> 01:04:52,020 I think it is reasonable, we say, 619 01:04:52,240 --> 01:04:53,860 hey, we can manage these trees. 620 01:04:54,560 --> 01:04:56,000 It's just not gonna happen tomorrow. 621 01:04:56,540 --> 01:04:58,840 I mean, we're not gonna have this money tomorrow, 622 01:04:59,520 --> 01:04:59,980 but they're all- 623 01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:07,960 Our parts of this, I mean, just to, you know, you've said it, but we're already spending 2.1 million, right? 624 01:05:08,020 --> 01:05:16,340 We already have some infrastructure for this, right? We're already doing some of this. We're not everything that's outlined here, not the full modi. 625 01:05:16,920 --> 01:05:27,000 But the point is, I'm sure, as we think through this more, as we, you know, we're going to have to get creative because we're not going to have that much money sitting in the budget this next year. 626 01:05:27,000 --> 01:05:32,300 Like, as we start to get creative about this, there might be, for example, the new initial equipment. 627 01:05:32,720 --> 01:05:36,580 I know we're spending a lot in the parks department generally on new equipment. 628 01:05:36,940 --> 01:05:43,100 How much overlap is there where we can leverage some of that to work with what we're trying to do here, right? 629 01:05:43,380 --> 01:05:51,000 Are there areas where there's real need and problem where we can, you know, do some short-term work, right? 630 01:05:51,380 --> 01:05:52,840 Where, yes, it's not city-wide. 631 01:05:52,840 --> 01:06:11,600 So I appreciate that we've come up with and first of all, I appreciate you clarifying what the financial impact statement actually says because I think in other areas, you know, there's either no impact or, you know, minimal impact and comparison with the whole budget. 632 01:06:12,080 --> 01:06:16,600 This is one section which it's a lot of money and it's one way of doing it. 633 01:06:16,600 --> 01:06:20,740 But I think we can all acknowledge that this is not going to be, 634 01:06:20,740 --> 01:06:22,900 nobody is coming here today saying, 635 01:06:23,280 --> 01:06:27,840 we need to spend nine to ten million dollars in this next fiscal cycle 636 01:06:27,840 --> 01:06:30,980 to get all this equipment and all of these people and all this stuff. 637 01:06:31,260 --> 01:06:34,380 But it is a, look, it's a good knowledge meant 638 01:06:34,380 --> 01:06:38,360 if we were to do everything, including 1.3 immediately, 639 01:06:38,520 --> 01:06:43,200 this is what it would cost. So, which is again my point about, 640 01:06:43,200 --> 01:06:45,380 I think we need to get creative, right? 641 01:06:45,900 --> 01:06:48,280 And I think there is progress. 642 01:06:48,660 --> 01:06:49,840 We can make toward this. 643 01:06:50,340 --> 01:06:53,580 And I don't know if one program that we've done, 644 01:06:53,660 --> 01:06:55,120 I'm going to pick on sidewalks, as an example. 645 01:06:55,220 --> 01:06:57,220 We took over what sidewalks used to be managed 646 01:06:57,220 --> 01:06:58,720 by the adjacent property owner. 647 01:06:58,740 --> 01:07:00,180 We took that over years ago. 648 01:07:00,660 --> 01:07:02,220 Well, we had absolutely no plan. 649 01:07:02,420 --> 01:07:03,560 No idea when it was going to cost. 650 01:07:03,580 --> 01:07:04,800 We kind of did it. 651 01:07:05,280 --> 01:07:07,820 And then we're like 10 plus years into it. 652 01:07:07,920 --> 01:07:10,320 And we're still figuring out how to catch up 653 01:07:10,320 --> 01:07:11,740 and budget for it and all this stuff. 654 01:07:12,600 --> 01:07:21,100 But we have made progress. Things have gotten better because we started moving in that direction. 655 01:07:22,460 --> 01:07:26,840 So I appreciate the work that's been done here. 656 01:07:27,280 --> 01:07:29,880 But I just wanted to highlight particularly for my colleagues. 657 01:07:30,480 --> 01:07:34,300 This is the big number on this particular slide of this whole presentation. 658 01:07:35,280 --> 01:07:42,140 But there's a major, major caveat here that I don't think can be understated enough about 659 01:07:42,140 --> 01:07:43,400 how important it is. 660 01:07:43,800 --> 01:07:49,140 But I do think there's latitude for progress and improvement, but this will all need to 661 01:07:49,140 --> 01:07:50,260 be budgeted, right? 662 01:07:50,280 --> 01:07:55,120 And as we have budget, we make priorities, which we do every one to cycle, you know, we 663 01:07:55,120 --> 01:07:59,220 will say, okay, how does this work into the next set of priorities and how can we continue 664 01:07:59,220 --> 01:07:59,920 to make progress? 665 01:08:00,140 --> 01:08:04,000 So I think we can make progress on this, I think, because we're not going to get all 666 01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:08,140 money right up front. I think everybody's going to be very creative and I'm looking forward 667 01:08:08,140 --> 01:08:12,080 to the creativity that everybody's going to bring to how can we make even more impact 668 01:08:12,080 --> 01:08:17,840 and not just assume that $10 million is going to be appropriate tomorrow. Because I think 669 01:08:17,840 --> 01:08:21,840 that will also have impact on what we're talking about here and how much we can do in the 670 01:08:21,840 --> 01:08:27,260 immediate term. So again, I think that's why I was recommending the amendment earlier to 671 01:08:27,260 --> 01:08:32,420 acknowledge that there are great things in this plan. We want to adopt many of these great things, 672 01:08:32,420 --> 01:08:43,580 But we're also going to acknowledge the reality that this is not going to happen tomorrow, yet we should be striving for a better management of this piece of public infrastructure. 673 01:08:44,400 --> 01:08:45,620 Thank you very much, Mr. Chair. 674 01:08:45,700 --> 01:08:48,320 Thank you. Councilwoman Ruby. 675 01:08:51,630 --> 01:08:55,530 Thank you very much. So I've got three questions. 676 01:08:55,530 --> 01:09:03,390 easy one actually probably was not easy to count, but how on earth did you determine a number of trees in a forestal area? 677 01:09:05,170 --> 01:09:08,230 The inventory is not going to be including those natural areas. 678 01:09:08,830 --> 01:09:15,050 It's only the trees that we either planted or they do have some kind of historical aesthetic value, 679 01:09:15,170 --> 01:09:20,410 or those are the trees around some targeted amenities. 680 01:09:20,410 --> 01:09:27,670 So that when you're talking we do may perform regular maintenance on those trees, not natural areas. 681 01:09:28,250 --> 01:09:31,850 Yes, so when you're talking about parks, you're talking about the trees out in the open. 682 01:09:32,270 --> 01:09:32,510 Correct. 683 01:09:32,910 --> 01:09:33,170 Okay. 684 01:09:33,370 --> 01:09:34,310 That's fine. 685 01:09:34,790 --> 01:09:35,030 Okay. 686 01:09:37,030 --> 01:09:39,970 Next question, newly planted trees. 687 01:09:40,350 --> 01:09:45,290 I've heard it said that the most important thing that you can do after you plant a tree 688 01:09:45,290 --> 01:09:49,470 and get it to survive the first couple of years is to go back and give it good pruning. 689 01:09:50,150 --> 01:09:55,450 in the first 10 years, I believe, and that after that it keeps the tree 690 01:09:55,450 --> 01:09:56,430 will be much healthier. 691 01:09:57,550 --> 01:09:59,970 So, full-pucks and parkways, we do- 692 01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:06,580 You have a three year establishment period, up to three years, we go back and order those 693 01:10:06,580 --> 01:10:13,540 trees and attend other third year. We do prune them, and the three year pruning cycle goes on 694 01:10:13,540 --> 01:10:18,660 until they are 10 years old, depending on the species and height, then forestry operation 695 01:10:18,660 --> 01:10:24,260 take them over for mature tree maintenance. So, but street trees, we don't have such a program. 696 01:10:24,260 --> 01:10:32,220 It's only urban forestry's position is only in coordination position, just to be able to inspect 697 01:10:32,220 --> 01:10:39,560 those trees that we receive calls on and provide permit to adjacent homeowners. 698 01:10:40,860 --> 01:10:45,120 Okay, so that proactive purring would be part of the street tree point, and then we're 699 01:10:45,120 --> 01:10:45,700 inactive. 700 01:10:46,180 --> 01:10:46,540 Correct. 701 01:10:47,120 --> 01:10:53,040 Okay, next one doesn't have anything to do with planting trees per se, but I couldn't help 702 01:10:53,040 --> 01:10:59,120 notice on one of the fairly newly planted trees on Southern Parkway about a month ago, there's 703 01:10:59,120 --> 01:11:05,200 a lovely oak tree with about that big around and it just fell over and went upon inspection 704 01:11:05,200 --> 01:11:13,740 of what I found was a scar from a lawnmower hit probably. There's right at ground level. Is 705 01:11:13,740 --> 01:11:20,700 any training being done to ensure that these investments are cared for by our mowing and other 706 01:11:22,120 --> 01:11:34,000 Yes, it is, though, also a constant refresher need and those accidents do happen, but when we hear about them, they are helpful examples for our next training. 707 01:11:34,000 --> 01:11:36,780 I'll be happy to come to patients because I took them. 708 01:11:36,880 --> 01:11:39,560 It is unfortunate that that does occasionally happen. 709 01:11:40,060 --> 01:11:49,080 I know in our tree planting efforts we do try to create space around those trees because it is really hard to get through all of that mobile area. 710 01:11:49,080 --> 01:11:53,000 if there isn't a buffer around that newly planted tree. 711 01:11:53,260 --> 01:11:56,400 So sometimes those buffer strategies do fail, 712 01:11:56,460 --> 01:11:59,060 sometimes moors do get a little too close, 713 01:11:59,660 --> 01:12:03,800 but we absolutely have training and a policy 714 01:12:03,800 --> 01:12:05,860 to not modell our newly planted tree. 715 01:12:06,040 --> 01:12:08,900 Okay, so as representative for Southern Parkway, 716 01:12:09,000 --> 01:12:10,960 I will be happy to work with you on initiative 717 01:12:11,290 --> 01:12:13,660 to get mulch rings around those trees. 718 01:12:16,000 --> 01:12:16,260 Sure. 719 01:12:17,020 --> 01:12:24,500 Those screen wells that you see around new plant trees are helping to prevent physical damages. 720 01:12:24,900 --> 01:12:27,380 So we used to use those water bags, screen bags. 721 01:12:28,260 --> 01:12:31,220 They're great, but they are not keeping the movers out. 722 01:12:31,920 --> 01:12:35,620 So this is a new implementation that we adopted two, three years ago. 723 01:12:35,780 --> 01:12:36,900 We're putting those screen wells. 724 01:12:37,180 --> 01:12:42,540 As long as they are put well, they are supposed to protect those trees 725 01:12:42,540 --> 01:12:45,180 plus keeping the water within the root system. 726 01:12:45,180 --> 01:12:49,620 Yes, so I would be happy to help you accomplish that. Thank you. 727 01:12:52,140 --> 01:12:53,180 Councilwoman Bass. 728 01:12:56,640 --> 01:13:01,720 You kind of teeter-totted it around this a little bit, but I didn't quite get the answer. I think I was looking for. 729 01:13:02,700 --> 01:13:10,020 So, the current workload that we have with the amount of people that we currently have. 730 01:13:10,060 --> 01:13:16,100 Do you feel like we are making a dent in what we have or are we just sustaining what's there? 731 01:13:16,100 --> 01:13:25,940 So, our current system in urban forestry, that's represented by that 2.1 million in personnel 732 01:13:25,940 --> 01:13:32,720 costs, that covers care and maintenance of our park trees of parkways that we have responsibility 733 01:13:32,720 --> 01:13:33,320 for. 734 01:13:33,540 --> 01:13:38,860 So, you think of those only said parkways are a pretty good example, there are a handful of others. 735 01:13:39,640 --> 01:13:43,360 And then the care and maintenance of those newly planted trees falls to our political 736 01:13:43,360 --> 01:13:46,020 team along with our landscape beds. 737 01:13:48,160 --> 01:13:53,000 As with I think most any resource we could do more with more, 738 01:13:53,560 --> 01:14:02,120 but the team does have a incredible system of planning and prioritization to get to the needs that they do see. 739 01:14:02,440 --> 01:14:12,500 What you see in the fully built out fiscal impact study does include and in that spreadsheet you can see 740 01:14:12,500 --> 01:14:17,440 what are new positions and what division they would go to. It does include some enhancement 741 01:14:17,440 --> 01:14:23,900 to the existing parks and parkway team as and the horticulture team with the idea that in order 742 01:14:23,900 --> 01:14:28,880 to meet all of the goals of that urban forest master plan, we would need to have more resources 743 01:14:28,880 --> 01:14:35,740 in those areas as well as adding completely new resources for street trees. I hope that answers your question. 744 01:14:35,740 --> 01:14:44,620 Um, no, let me reword maybe, um, currently not, not this, but the 745 01:14:44,620 --> 01:14:49,120 quarantine with people have in the amount of backlog that we have of deferred 746 01:14:49,120 --> 01:14:55,000 maintenance, and current tree maintenance. Do you all feel we're making a 747 01:14:55,000 --> 01:14:58,440 in anything currently or we're just sustaining. 748 01:15:00,880 --> 01:15:15,660 We are in a position that we have to prioritize the work. That would be my answer. I can't say that we are responding every single call immediately. 749 01:15:15,660 --> 01:15:33,380 The system is currently operating on inspecting trees and then making work orders based on the prior to ranking and schedule and those request and our own inspections. 750 01:15:33,380 --> 01:15:37,220 The only exception to this is Parkways. 751 01:15:38,860 --> 01:15:45,120 Just because this is an old model that we developed and we really implemented well. 752 01:15:45,840 --> 01:15:51,140 Every year, in winter, in four months, we do inspect all of the parkway trees. 753 01:15:51,560 --> 01:15:54,820 We again prioritize what is high risk. 754 01:15:55,280 --> 01:16:03,360 And then try to make sure that we do maintain all of those parkway trees just because of the high risk. 755 01:16:03,360 --> 01:16:11,960 public because of the flow of traffic. In parks, we don't have that regular inspection system. 756 01:16:12,580 --> 01:16:21,020 The operation is based on the cost system and prioritization. And at the top of this, we 757 01:16:22,600 --> 01:16:29,400 are following our three planting and young tree maintenance program. Like I mentioned, every 758 01:16:29,400 --> 01:16:36,180 six, nine years, they go through a pruning cycle, and then when you put all of this together, 759 01:16:36,960 --> 01:16:39,340 we do understand the importance of prioritization. 760 01:16:41,700 --> 01:16:49,740 Okay, because I feel like history is showing us that we are reactive and not proactive. 761 01:16:50,700 --> 01:16:57,980 So I think I'm just not convinced that we can sustain financially or with personnel 762 01:16:57,980 --> 01:17:04,840 this plan as it's being presented today. But as we've said, 763 01:17:05,180 --> 01:17:11,660 Dasec, didn't pull it in a part, making tiny steps toward the right direction. I just 764 01:17:11,660 --> 01:17:19,760 know firsthand being new to council and new to my district. I see years and years of 765 01:17:19,760 --> 01:17:25,840 issues that still have not been addressed. And so that's kind of where I was going with 766 01:17:25,840 --> 01:17:31,080 current workload. So thank you for that. And yes, to clarify, the current workload that we 767 01:17:31,080 --> 01:17:37,160 talk about does not include any of that proactive street tree work. Our leafy grant has enabled 768 01:17:37,160 --> 01:17:44,700 us to do street tree work that we would not otherwise be funded to do. And leafy workforce 769 01:17:45,440 --> 01:17:54,020 added five personnel to work on that only 23% of the metro area, five additional people, 770 01:17:54,020 --> 01:17:59,130 just focused on inspecting plus working with the contractor they were able to do 771 01:18:00,380 --> 01:18:05,350 maintenance on thousands of trees and those costs are not included in the current 772 01:18:06,960 --> 01:18:13,330 Discussion that at that 2.1 that doesn't include the grant funded positions because those wouldn't continue beyond the grant 773 01:18:14,880 --> 01:18:19,380 Thank you. Council on the chapel. We are add for 16 774 01:18:19,380 --> 01:18:23,960 I understand the person that has a name tag that says the law racks right now 775 01:18:24,020 --> 01:18:28,320 You're probably scared it's going to be some long-winded remarks, but I'll save those. 776 01:18:28,920 --> 01:18:31,600 But I do have a request of urban forestry as well as the chair. 777 01:18:31,980 --> 01:18:36,520 I think Councilwoman Bass has some good questions. 778 01:18:36,920 --> 01:18:43,500 And as a member of the Tree Advisory Commission, we were recently given a presentation 779 01:18:43,500 --> 01:18:48,740 by Kate Carl with the Division of Urban Forestry about the amazing work that you all do. 780 01:18:48,740 --> 01:19:13,040 And so I would make a request that whether or not this passes today and I really, really hope that it does that in a future meeting we can have that same presentation given to this body because I think that it will help us understand more of the work that you do and address some of those questions that obviously Council members have so hopefully that can be something that we can set on the agenda in the future. 781 01:19:13,520 --> 01:19:16,120 Yeah, we would be very happy to do so. 782 01:19:16,120 --> 01:19:18,460 That's it? Thank you. 783 01:19:18,560 --> 01:19:18,900 You're welcome. 784 01:19:19,100 --> 01:19:19,320 All right. 785 01:19:19,460 --> 01:19:20,720 So that's moving on. 786 01:19:20,860 --> 01:19:26,200 We have a held legislation item number three. 787 01:19:26,900 --> 01:19:32,120 We are going to go to resolution R142-25 resolution. 788 01:19:32,480 --> 01:19:37,140 Urging the implementation of the urban forestry master plan strategies actions to ensure 789 01:19:37,140 --> 01:19:42,840 local Jefferson County Metro government tree canopy is resilient, protected, and sustainable. 790 01:19:43,500 --> 01:19:44,420 I'm sorry. 791 01:19:45,400 --> 01:19:45,860 Sorry. 792 01:19:45,880 --> 01:19:46,700 This is Sonio Harwood. 793 01:19:46,880 --> 01:19:47,080 The clerk. 794 01:19:47,260 --> 01:19:47,440 I'm sorry. 795 01:19:47,600 --> 01:19:48,300 I don't have my camera on. 796 01:19:48,480 --> 01:19:49,400 I'm getting ready to walk out. 797 01:19:49,760 --> 01:19:52,240 I thought that we were going to have P. 798 01:19:52,240 --> 01:19:55,640 Argentina was going to work on getting some amendments made for this. 799 01:19:57,560 --> 01:19:58,000 Yes. 800 01:19:59,280 --> 01:19:59,980 For some reason. 801 01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:06,000 We'll be waiting here in Thursday or do you want to go ahead and pass it out and make the amendments by Thursday? 802 01:20:07,240 --> 01:20:10,540 He has the amendments available at the moment. 803 01:20:10,980 --> 01:20:13,180 Okay, that's all. Thank you. 804 01:20:13,240 --> 01:20:13,640 Thank you. 805 01:20:16,440 --> 01:20:19,160 Do we need to... 806 01:20:33,940 --> 01:20:36,440 I need a motion to return to the table. 807 01:20:38,140 --> 01:20:39,240 And motion moves. 808 01:20:40,020 --> 01:20:48,040 We are available, of course, work, please, all of favor, and we are back on the table. 809 01:20:49,260 --> 01:20:55,220 So we have Anthony Piagitini and I thank you. 810 01:20:55,500 --> 01:20:56,320 Thank you, Mr. Chair. 811 01:20:57,100 --> 01:21:01,520 Again, I think the conversation or the special discussion sort of highlighted this that 812 01:21:02,300 --> 01:21:07,440 there's, I think the vast, certainly vast majority, whether or not everybody agrees with 813 01:21:07,440 --> 01:21:12,880 even actually 1.3, but the rest of these actions, I heard zero people complain about or say 814 01:21:12,880 --> 01:21:18,660 that there's some problem here. And even action 1.3, I don't hear people saying they disagree 815 01:21:18,660 --> 01:21:23,860 with it. It's concerned about implementation. It's concerned about paying for it. So what we 816 01:21:23,860 --> 01:21:33,020 have here is a resolution that is saying we're going to adopt this and try to get this done. It 817 01:21:33,020 --> 01:21:37,240 does not say it will happen overnight. It does not say we are budgeting for this overnight. And 818 01:21:37,240 --> 01:21:39,280 So I think it's just fair that we amend it. 819 01:21:39,380 --> 01:21:42,920 I'm just going to amend section three after reviewing section two. 820 01:21:42,960 --> 01:21:48,560 I don't think there's a reason to amend it because section two really doesn't say anything 821 01:21:48,560 --> 01:21:50,980 that's, that I think gives that wrong impression. 822 01:21:51,640 --> 01:21:56,920 But section three, what I'd like to amend to, so I'm going to strike the existing section 823 01:21:56,920 --> 01:21:59,180 three and substitute with the following language. 824 01:21:59,460 --> 01:22:04,480 It will read section three, it will be quote section three, and just for the clerk in the 825 01:22:04,480 --> 01:22:09,120 attorney, I'll get you this language after the meeting, so you don't have to write it down. 826 01:22:10,220 --> 01:22:15,540 The Council requests the administration follow the level tree plan strategies in its planning 827 01:22:15,540 --> 01:22:21,120 comma with implementation contingent on future approval through a Metro Council budget 828 01:22:21,120 --> 01:22:26,480 or operating plan, period, and quote, keep the rest of the resolution as is. 829 01:22:26,540 --> 01:22:32,960 I think it's fair to that this then communicates to the public to the administration that 830 01:22:32,960 --> 01:22:38,200 certainly want to continue moving forward on all these strategies, but we also expect them 831 01:22:38,200 --> 01:22:43,140 to come to Council with budgeting, with implementation plan, with hopefully more creative 832 01:22:43,140 --> 01:22:49,160 ideas to get some of this done, and not just one idea, so I'd like to make that in 833 01:22:49,160 --> 01:22:49,820 the forum motion. 834 01:22:50,460 --> 01:22:50,800 Thank you. 835 01:22:51,560 --> 01:22:54,020 And we have Emotion and Second. 836 01:22:54,560 --> 01:22:55,900 All in favor say aye. 837 01:22:59,900 --> 01:23:00,580 Aye. 838 01:23:00,580 --> 01:23:02,520 Now do we need to, 839 01:23:05,980 --> 01:23:10,300 now we need to make a voice vote on the resolution, all in favor to say, 840 01:23:10,880 --> 01:23:10,940 aye. 841 01:23:12,000 --> 01:23:13,040 Anybody opposed? 842 01:23:14,100 --> 01:23:15,220 And the resolution moves. 843 01:23:15,260 --> 01:23:18,860 This will go to old business because we have an amendment on it. 844 01:23:19,040 --> 01:23:19,800 Thank you all. 845 01:23:19,820 --> 01:23:21,920 Have a great day for 20. 846 01:23:22,140 --> 01:23:22,840 We're done. 847 01:23:31,120 --> 01:23:36,460 Then invested in Parkland for more than 25 years in building housing for the