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I mean, we need to be there for a few minutes.

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We need to be there for a few minutes.

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Are your grandchildren doing a bunch?

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The vulnerable.

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We're in child life.

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I mean, something that's bad enough for this kind of campaign.

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So the thing that the fairly good ones are, the party.

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Yep.

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The side of the society is the state.

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Yeah, that's probably because they got it from the bank.

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What's that?

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You're gonna say, what did you pay for that here?

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Not the bank.

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I can handle it.

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I'm gonna have a draw.

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Well, like that of all, but it isn't.

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I mean, you can jump, that's a good feeling.

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It's a bold blue one, a white, that's a new one.

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Is he here?

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I don't like, we can take a look.

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Just behind her.

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I didn't see him.

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I didn't see him.

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Got it.

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Call the meeting to order.

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I'd like to invite Mrs. Satel's grandson,

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Camden, to come up and lead us in the plight of allegiance place.

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And so we're the Republic for which it stands.

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Thank

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you, Camden.

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Call the roll, please.

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Here. Mr. Butler. Mr. Orie. Mr. Faux.

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Here. Mr. Tau. Here.

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Welcome, everyone. We are joined here tonight by our Clark of Council, Misty Cheshire, City Manager

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Dave Kennedy, City solicitor Joe Braun, Assistant City Manager Tom Smith, Director of Finance

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Michelle Burday, and our Chief of Police, Sean Wright, and also former Council members

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Pat Maze, Todd Osborne, and Pam Graus.

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So welcome everyone.

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The first order of business is we have a public relations and communications committee,

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stay informed campaign.

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That's you, Mr. Sexton.

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have a very short prepared statement.

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First off, good evening, our good evening, everybody, and thank you, Council, for allowing

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me to share a little bit of information about what's going on with the Public Relations

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and Communications Committee.

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As the Chairman of the Committee, I'm here tonight on behalf of the entire committee,

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to share some information about our committees upcoming event next week.

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As the Council is aware, our committee has been working on a development and implementation of an ongoing campaign we titled stay informed.

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The purpose of this campaign is to promote communication between the city and the citizens of Lovelin.

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Efforts like the city's new website are weekly blogs, state, straight from the heart, and the city-related social media pages are all seeing increased use in terms of the number of residents who are searching and receiving information.

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These outlets offer a new level of content and interaction that improves access, transparency,

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and news within our community.

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I'm here tonight to invite the citizens of Lovelin and the residents to join us at

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our meeting next Tuesday night, March 19th.

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During this meeting, we will be delivering a website demonstration to share the details

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of functionality and specifically how residents can use the site to learn and share information.

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We'll also be offering residents the opportunity to share their thoughts on city communication

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in order to develop new and relevant efforts moving forward.

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We look forward to hearing from and helping those who stay informed and increase their knowledge.

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So next Tuesday, if you're interested, please come join us.

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We'd love to have it, and love to hear your thoughts.

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What time and where is it up?

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Here in the chamber, at 7 o'clock.

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Thank you all very much for the opportunity to share that information,

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and have a great meeting.

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Anybody have any comments?

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Questions?

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Thank you for all your hard work, the committee's hard work

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on this project.

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All right, next item is review and approval of minutes.

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And I believe you all received an email from Missy.

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There was one change made on, oh, done miss that?

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My bad, open form, sorry.

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Sorry, Mr. Sexton.

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Pat Sexton.

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Oh, we had a Pete Sexton.

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Some months ago, we were discussing the lack of function

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of the restaurants, the area, over on Lovomadera Road,

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right as we go over the bridge.

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Turn left and you've got all these restaurants that don't get much of the or if any of the business coming from our bike trail

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It occurred to me we could branch off the bike trail. Make a Y by wearing my cumbersome cycle is and

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Please forgive me. I don't know legality and I have no ideas to cost. I'm forever spending everybody else's money

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So bear with me

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Quarter and off the area as you cross the road that goes by the train

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bridge and go through the parking lot there and come up on the bridge and put barriers on

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the bridge that we can't have a six year old or three year old go over the bridge and they

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have hit by a oncoming pre-offing, pre-offing and then move on to lovin madera road and give

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them some of the business and have a more interesting ride yet.

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The problem I see with this is there would seem to me like on the pre-all the trail itself

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as it exists now is two lanes.

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if that's wide enough for two lanes,

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seems to me it'd be kind of dangerous,

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but if it isn't, we could, you know,

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put the, the lying down in the middle

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and consider that as an alternate route

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instead of just going up and down the butt,

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lovelin' bike trail.

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My idea.

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Thank you, Mr. Sexton.

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All right, now we'll do a review in a approval of minutes.

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And this Cheshire did send an email,

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There's one small change made on page nine regarding a first reading versus saying the second

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What do we need to do in a motion with regard to that Mr. Brown, or since was taken care of do we not need to I was not on that email. What was the change?

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page nine

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It says that it was a second reading of an ordinance amending the city of Levanto, Ohio code of ordinances section 13 of 501 and change second to being a first reading

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I would go ahead and do a motion.

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All right.

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Vice Mayor?

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I moved off.

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The minutes per Mr. Cheshire's recommendation via her email

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to change the word second to first.

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Sarah second?

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Second.

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Any other comments?

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Are there any other changes?

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I can call the roll on that, please.

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Mr. Blair?

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Yes.

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Mr. Butler? Yes.

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Mr. Orie? Yes.

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Mr. Phelps? Yes.

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Mr. Tau?

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Vice Mayor? Yes.

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Mayor Bailey. Yes. Motion carries seven to zero. And could we please have a motion to approve the minutes from the February 26, 2019 meeting as amended.

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I moved to approve the minutes from February 26, 2019 as amended.

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There's second. That was Mr. Blair. All the roll please.

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Mr. Butler. Yes. Mr. Roy. Yes. Mr. Fowl. Yes. Mr. Tell.

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Mr. Blair.

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Motion carries 61.

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Next we have a public hearing.

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Someone please make a motion to open the public hearing.

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I move that we open the public hearing to discuss the designated outdoor refreshment area.

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Is there a second?

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All right, we have one individual signed up. Ryan Coolic.

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Hello all Ryan Coolic one zero zero eight four fox case drive.

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You guys call public hearings. I'm going to be here. I love public hearings.

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This is what I've been doing for 20 years and it's awesome.

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So I do have a few questions for you though, before I start though, I want to say when it comes to Dora.

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As a, I live with a scientist and as a policy analyst, it's a, it's a good rule of thumb to try to disprove what you think, instead of trying to prove what you think.

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A lot of times when we try to prove what we think we go down the wrong path.

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So, I didn't like Dora, so I tried to disprove it.

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I called the Ohio Department of Liquor Control.

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I said, give me a list of all your door areas.

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And I called them all.

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And I asked them how do you guys do this?

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How's it working out for you?

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And I have a few interesting observations.

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The first one was the city of Sylvania.

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They're doing it about the same time we are,

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up in what's at the North West corner of the state.

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They're doing it right now too.

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When they decided to do this, they called an ad hoc committee

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of two members of the government,

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Two business owners and two residents that live inside the door

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Sounds like a great idea sounds like it's very engaging

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I'm just curious why we didn't do that. I mean it seems that

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They are really taking the time to look at like when I look at policy

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You got to look at the good you got to look at the bad and you got to figure out doesn't work well for your town

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So I don't know if anyone has an answer on that if we just decided to

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You know put the horns forward. Yeah. I don't want to take your side

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No, that's fine. Okay, so the other thing I saw was a can't now. I know can't know

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Highless much bigger than we are

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But can't in as a matter of fact all these communities they talked to me about cost every single one of them

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11 they'll talk to me about cost

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I haven't heard that here

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I don't know how much it's going to cost and

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I think it's good for us all to know as taxpayers how much this is going to cost

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But I've got some questions.

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The first question I have, if I get a door cup at capies and I empty it, can I walk into another

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establishment and use it?

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Yes, yes.

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Because it seems like all the other communities that you can't do that.

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Nancy Able's with the Division of Liquor Control and I also called the Department of Public Safety

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who actually enforces it and they said, yes, they don't have any rules for striking it.

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You can't go in with one that has alcohol in it, but if you go in with an empty one, it's not dismay.

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You could actually leave, go home, keep your cup.

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This is the way to enforce and tool me, and actually bring it back on another event, and

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nothing can stop you.

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You can't come into a door, boundaries with, like, you've filled up at your house, and you

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can't go into another one.

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But he said, that's an interesting question.

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I don't have any rules that would stop someone from coming in with an empty cup.

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Okay.

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All right.

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That was my first one.

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Because everybody else, they were very clear on their website, no.

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And I know this is a newer law.

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So the other question I had is, almost everybody has it as a constant district.

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And that makes sense to me.

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It actually is something I really support because the idea is, for restaurants that don't have

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a lot of waiting space, what you can do is, I'll use Thanos as an example here, is you can

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get your drink and sit outside and wait.

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I went up to wording to know high over the weekend to take in there, Dora, and they're very, very clear.

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This is not a sip and stroll district.

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This is for the businesses, the businesses like it.

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So I don't, I know there's not an easy answer this, but I think the city should consider moving this to a more permanent basis.

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Because I think that is better for the businesses.

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I only ran into two other communities that do it similar to how we're doing it.

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I didn't run into any that are doing it for very specific events.

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a Delaware said you apply for an event and they have a very open public way for people to

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see who is actually involved and who is benefiting from this.

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And then my last question is, does the city of Lovelin own any part of the bike trail in

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the town?

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No, we don't.

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That's why when I set the boundaries, I make sure I did not include the bike trail or the

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or the right of ways.

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So is it now the continuous district?

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It continues along, it's connected via the city public streets, which we own the streets we don't own the ash.

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The white trail hits West Lovelin, it's inside the city right away.

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So I was very particular when I worked with Cindy to not have the boundaries of the door go over the actual, the white trail right away.

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So that, and I have a map.

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OK, and I'm short on time, so I'll just quickly ask.

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These other districts at Dayton, Toledo, has two that are not connected.

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And I know we can't have two because of our size.

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They are very clear that if you're not in the door,

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you are breaking state law, and you will be punished

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to the full extent of the state.

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If somebody is on the bike trail with a drink,

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are they breaking state law?

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Yes, they would be.

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That's all I have.

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Thank you.

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The only thing I would add is, you're right, I didn't bring in residents, but I did bring in.

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We did invite every, I had multiple dates, options for the permit holders.

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And I believe I met with seven of the 12.

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I had five letters, and I now have seven of the 12.

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I did not get one from Bishop's Quarter, but I got an email saying,

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I'm good with it if you really need a letter.

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Let me know.

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The only thing I'll leave you with is think about making a permanent, I think that's a good idea and I think the business is like it.

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Thank you.

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Mr. Colot.

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We have a motion to close the public.

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Second. Second. All the roll close. Yes. Yes.

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Tell. Yes. Vice Mayor Vice Governor. Yes. Mr. Blair. Yes. Mr. Butler. Yes. Mr. Rory. Yes. Motion carries seven to zero. Does anybody have any other comments they want to make regarding this issue?

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All right. Next item. First ordinance. Can you read the legislation, please, Mr. Teshire?

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Ornance amending the city of Levelin, Ohio Code of Ornance's Section 1305.01, adoption of

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the 2004 Residential Code of Ohio for 1, 2 or 3 family dwellings in Appendix G, as to the swimming

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pools, spas and hot tubs, Section 1305.02, adoption of the Ohio Building Code, buildings

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and structures other than 1, 2 and 3 family building structures, Section 1305.03, adoption

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of the property maintenance code for existing buildings and structures.

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Anybody have any questions or comments on the legislation?

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Call the roll, please.

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It's a tell.

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No.

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No.

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Yes.

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Mr. Butler?

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Yes.

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Mr. Orie? Yes.

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Resolution 17 is adopted by a vote of 700.

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Can you read the next legislation, please?

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Ornance amending 11 code of Ornance section 111.01.01, mayors court fees.

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Any questions or comments?

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Yes, Mr. Sittel?

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What is the fee for, or what is the fine for hitting the train threshold?

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That would be a traffic control device.

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Don't quote me call it down my head here.

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But I believe that's under three three one, which over here would be one hundred and twenty dollars.

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Would it be worth increasing it as a deterrent?

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Because obviously nothing else is working and we're going to spend a lot of money to try to make it work.

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And I wondered if we made it a thousand dollars or something like that.

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Maybe we get a little better result.

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It's possible.

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I know that they did that with people driving into standing water.

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They increased that quite a bit.

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We saw people that drive through standing water, unfortunately, but it's an option.

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Mr. Barn?

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I don't know.

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You were not in court on Thursday, I don't think.

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We had someone in court on this very issue on Thursday, and I made a point of talking

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to the magistrate about this issue.

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So for Council's benefit, and the Chief's benefit, I asked her, I said, I told Council at the last meeting that when these cases come up several times a year, you give the speech about how did you miss five different warning signs to hit it, what will it take and I told her about our proposed solution to Mrs. Cetel's point. I think that individual got a $150 fine in court costs for that offense.

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that wasn't what he was worried about. He would have paid a thousand dollar fine. What

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he's worried about is the points on his license because almost all of the people

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that hit that trestle are commercial vehicles. They're box trucks. This particular

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individual I can't remember when entity it was but it was definitely a truck and that's

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what he cared about.

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So, unfortunately when they're on the road there's not a sign that

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as you're gonna get two points on your license

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or you're gonna get a thousand dollar fine.

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Maybe, you know, that would create the deterrent

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you're talking about.

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I think this, I did ask the magistrate

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about this lighting system that we're talking about

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and she thought it was a good idea.

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But I did want to point out to you,

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I'm not sure the money is a deterrent nearly as much

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as the two point violation

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because nearly all of these individuals are couriers,

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CDLs, and you get those points,

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you're gonna lose your job.

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How would we get that information out?

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Not sure.

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About the losing points.

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Because if that's the deterrent,

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we have tried a lot of things and we're going to spend a lot of money trying some other stuff.

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And I don't know whether that's even going to work.

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But I don't know.

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How do we get that out?

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Well, I would say it's added difficulty

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because many of the people that hit it, for example, wouldn't likely get a new slash from

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the city, most of them are non-city residents who hit it, most of the vast majority of

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them are coming from West Love on their turning right.

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I don't, I, that's a great question,

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I

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don't, vice mayor, if you think to Mr. Kennedy's point, right,

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the residents that are going to get flashed across our communications, you could put

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on a sign, but they're already ignoring all the signs.

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So you could put it out there, I don't think it makes a difference.

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I do want to add that we were just assuming that the device that we were looking at that

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will be triggered by the AT radar across could not have a horn, and I don't believe

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based upon what I've read in relation to the city's quiet zone, it would be something that we

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couldn't add. So it's an optional item that we could add. And to be honest with you, the

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nearest, the personas or not would probably tell you a horn and lieu of them here in the

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crunch that they hear on a regular basis is probably the same. And it's not until you get to

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bank building where you would have a residence. So if you think that the device that's

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going to be flashing when you trigger it is going to be somewhere in the vicinity of

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where the existing flasher is outside of people drinking at Cindy's it's really not going

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to, I think, have a negative impact. So barring someone telling us we can, I think, including

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that option would make the thing more effective. But I don't know how else to get the point

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across, so.

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I'd still like to see, I'd still like to see

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us increase the fine.

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Are there any of the comments, Mr. Fauci?

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I just don't have our time seeing how increasing the fine will act as

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a deterrent other than to be sort of a punitive measure after the fact.

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Because I don't think anybody enters into the city with the calculation of, well,

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it's only $150 if I hit the train threshold.

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These are just pure accidents from carolousness on their part.

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And I just don't think of a panel of increasing a penalty will have any deterrent effect whatsoever.

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I can maybe be convinced otherwise, but I have real questions about that.

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Mr. Butler?

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He Dave just out of the blue.

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I'm wondering, have we ever, I mean ultimately, these things happen because these trucks hit the property of the railroad, right?

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Yes, sir.

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have we talked to the railroad about maybe sharing the cost of notification because they can't

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be happy about trucks hitting their property over and over and over. Well I dealt with the railroad

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for two and a half years in the quiet zone. I know yeah I know that and I know it wasn't a pleasant

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experience. I asked him once about what Pat was talking about and he made a nice comment about that.

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I asked him over the possibilities of getting painted, and they said, well, that will never happen.

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I did get them to allow me to put the bigger sign on it, and that was a small victory.

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I don't think that they see it as a causing any structural issues.

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I mean, ultimately, I mean, the Grand Canyon was built or was created over time and erosion

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over lots of years, eventually being hit over and over and over is going to cause structural

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damage to that trussle.

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Yes.

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This is going to.

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So maybe, I mean, maybe one of us could help participate in a call with a move.

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We knew who to call, so he's a great guy, but I think,

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but I think he, I think they're

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serious. It's your problem. When I call and say, why are the gates going down? He said

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it's they've the weather's cold. We're fixing it. It's that's pretty much it every winter.

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We get a string of the gates coming down because the components are freezing and the answer

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I get is because it's cold. Dave. But this is more we want to prevent damage to your property.

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Yes. You know, so help us help us help you.

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Why not put a big sign in front of it, call it the two-point

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sprig?

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Okay.

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Are there any other comments?

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I do agree with Mr. Phelps.

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I don't like anybody makes a conscious decision to just give it a try.

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I think it's an accident.

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I think it's different than those that are driving around high water signs and making a

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conscious decision to risk it.

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I do see this as a difference.

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And we are making some, hopefully, some pretty significant improvements here, and hopefully with a grant.

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So I think we've got a good game plan in the works, and we ought to see where that goes.

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We call the roll, please.

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Nice Mayor Wisecorber.

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Mayor Bailey?

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Yes.

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Mr. Orie.

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Yes.

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Mr. Fels.

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Yes.

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Mr. Tav.

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Ordinza 18 is adopted by a vote of 7 to 0.

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Mr. Kennedy?

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The city utilizes a software where we've actually been using since 2007 called Alerts and it's two parts.

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It's the record management system for the police department and it's also the CAD system for both the police and L.O.S.F.D.

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And the city also, Milford sort of piggybacks on this on our alert system, which has sort of got two benefits, mostly the city of Milford gets to utilize just the component they want, but also the police are LPD and the Milford can exchange the exchange of information as a lot easier through that.

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So if our annual renewal of the alerts starts in May, ends in the end of April, total cost

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is $25,291.88, to take out the millford share, which they reimburse the city.

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Our total share is $228.3244, and it exceeds the $15,000 sort of bringing it forward.

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One other component is that this is also pretty pivotal feed into our court system, our

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management for our court system. So it's one integration for all the PD records and it's also

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what is utilized by the Com Center for all of our cat-operated dispatchers. It's pretty valuable

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piece of software. Millford only uses it obviously for the record management standpoint and both

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cheese, millford's, jeep, Jeremy, I believe, Jamie and Chief Ray both feel that that's a great

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relationship and they pay that proportionately.

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Does anybody have any questions, Mr. Phelps?

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So is this the same price as it was this past year?

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Where are they in general?

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Actually, LSD is not using the record management part of it as they were last year.

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So there was a little bit of change, but the record management part of it is not the biggest

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component.

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That's why if you look at millford and you see on a $25,000 bill, there's shares

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The meat and the greed of it is mostly the CAD part of that.

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So when LSFD is not a factor in it,

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that took out 3582 out of the total.

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So LSFD was add 3582 to that.

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If they were a part of this,

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of course the LSFD fund would pay for it.

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So it's a very valuable when up somewhat,

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went down somewhat because LSFD is out of it.

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I believe last year we were at 27 or 28, so that's about right, you give it a slight increase

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while you remove LSFD, we end up with 25-291-88.

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But it's, I think, Chief can tell you it's a very valuable part of what their operations are.

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So.

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Any other questions or comments?

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Read the resolution, please.

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Oh, sorry.

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Mr. Ballard.

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Davis, L.S. FDA's new software, does that integrate with this system or totally stand alone?

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I believe it's totally stand alone.

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I'm not a hundred percent certain, but I believe you're correct. I think I stand alone.

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I think it's stand alone. I talked to Chief before he left town.

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Anyone else?

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Read the resolution place.

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Resolution authorizing the annual renewal of the Alerts Public Safety Solutions Records Management Services software.

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Any comments or questions on the resolution itself?

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Call the roll, please.

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Are you feeling?

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Mr. Blair.

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Yes.

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Sorry.

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Yes.

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Mr. Felves.

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Yes.

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Vice Mayor Wise Gerber.

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Resolution 19 is adopted by a vote of 70.

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Mr. Smith.

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Thank you, Mayor.

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In February, the city was approached by the Greater Cincinnati Energy Alliance.

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Their environmental nonprofit organization.

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What they're asking is the partner with the city.

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on being able to provide energy efficiency

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alternatives to residents of the city.

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They have a program called get-efficient.

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That started in 2016 instance and now the get-efficient program

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is part of a 30% federal tax credit that will expire

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at the end of 2019.

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So this program likely will end at the end of this year

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unless that credit's been renewed.

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What it does though is that it provides energy,

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You know, methods for energy improvement to homes that provides for financing for those

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improvements, and it also helps people to get equipment discounts on equipment if they need

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that.

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There are some other communities that have partnered with them already, the Anderson Township,

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City Cincinnati, Cole Rain.

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What they're asking of us, though, is that if this is done.

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If this resolution is adopted, that the city will assist in promoting the program through our social media outlets,

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and our communication channels, as well as any correspondence. What you do need to know, though, and before

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you as the agreement has two sections that are stright. After speaking with the city manager

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and the city's lesser section four was struck because the city cannot accept unspecified amounts. That's

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in demification part and then the section 7-8 we don't want to be responsible to pay for

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someone else's fees should it turn his fees incurred

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and I'm going to have any questions

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comments if you don't mind to help with the questions we have the representative from

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GCEA of yeah go on up please heat I was driving my feet to get up there hi and I'm Kevin

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and stolen with the greater Cincinnati and our Goliens.

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Thanks for having me.

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Welcome.

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Thanks for coming.

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Thank you.

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So if you have any questions between Tom and Kevin,

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they can answer.

473
00:31:09,140 --> 00:31:09,540
Mr. Butler?

474
00:31:09,940 --> 00:31:11,240
So Kevin, and Tom.

475
00:31:12,340 --> 00:31:15,860
I didn't see any potential liability to the city, especially

476
00:31:15,860 --> 00:31:18,480
with the attorney's fees and indemnification clauses.

477
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:20,340
Strykin?

478
00:31:20,900 --> 00:31:21,380
Is that accurate?

479
00:31:22,340 --> 00:31:23,860
Yeah, there's potential liability.

480
00:31:24,220 --> 00:31:27,120
Yeah, at the end of the day, it's really promotional partners

481
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:34,760
arrangement with the City of Loveland and as Tom spoke to, we've had 11 communities so far

482
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:40,760
sign on to this memorandum of understanding. It's really utilizing whatever communication

483
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:48,080
channels, the City of Loveland feels comfortable with when we send the social media, it'll

484
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:55,980
all be in digital form and then you would basically add that Facebook or your website or even your

485
00:31:55,980 --> 00:32:03,160
newsletter. So it's really kind of determined as to what channels you want to direct that to your

486
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:09,380
residents. So very limited like no exposure. And so then our citizens would have the resources

487
00:32:09,380 --> 00:32:15,960
of the GCEA correct call up on. Exactly and that would be the get-efficient and the Solarized

488
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:22,140
program and I just wanted to clarify one quick thing. So the 30% federal tax credit that's actually

489
00:32:22,140 --> 00:32:25,680
on the Solarized Program and the get-efficient program

490
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:29,160
that would just be kind of a regular program

491
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:32,600
where people would utilize cash on hand

492
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:34,560
or their own financial institution.

493
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:36,820
I just wanted to clarify that.

494
00:32:37,780 --> 00:32:38,540
So, thank you.

495
00:32:38,900 --> 00:32:39,260
Y'all, help.

496
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:44,080
Just directed, to Mr. Smith,

497
00:32:45,100 --> 00:32:50,240
have there been residents or businesses that have asked

498
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:53,420
for this kind of program to be in lovelin.

499
00:32:53,660 --> 00:32:55,280
Nothing I'm aware of.

500
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:57,680
We were approached by Mr. Tolin on that.

501
00:32:59,140 --> 00:33:03,860
And then it seems like it's heavy on promoting solar energy,

502
00:33:04,660 --> 00:33:08,180
and I know there's pictures of other communities

503
00:33:08,180 --> 00:33:09,680
with solar panels on the roof.

504
00:33:09,940 --> 00:33:11,760
It raises a question in my mind.

505
00:33:12,820 --> 00:33:16,820
I know certain communities, homeowner associations.

506
00:33:17,180 --> 00:33:18,900
I don't think they would permit solar panels.

507
00:33:18,900 --> 00:33:22,080
Are there any regulations of solar panels in the city?

508
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:25,820
Do you know that I'm aware of right now?

509
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:31,180
We have a permitting process for them, but we don't have any regulations.

510
00:33:32,940 --> 00:33:37,120
Those would fall under individual HOA regulations requirements that may follow.

511
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:42,760
The city does not have specific requirements regarding solar panels that I can think of,

512
00:33:42,860 --> 00:33:44,800
but Tom will look into it first thing in the morning.

513
00:33:45,260 --> 00:33:51,800
So I know right now like as far as like weight on a structure on a roof and things like that, we don't we don't have a code for that.

514
00:33:55,020 --> 00:33:55,400
Mr. Bar?

515
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:59,700
Is the agreement acceptable with the strikeouts that we put in?

516
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:07,680
I would have to take another look at that, but it sounds like from what I heard this evening that that would work for us.

517
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:14,080
We've had some modifications to the MOU with other communities and so we're always in a position

518
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:19,800
of clearly working with local governments to make sure that it works for all parties.

519
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:25,240
So yeah, we're happy to work with whatever works for you guys.

520
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:26,420
Hi, Spare.

521
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:30,300
Kevin, how is the Greater Cincinnati Energy Alliance funded?

522
00:34:30,300 --> 00:34:48,800
Good question. So we were founded in 2009 and right from the Gecko in 2010, 2011, we were actually given, I mean, we applied for it, but we got a significant grant from the Department of Energy, so that's the federal government.

523
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:57,100
that was roughly $17 million. And so with those funds, we've pretty much exhausted. I'm

524
00:34:57,100 --> 00:35:04,060
a majority of those funds doing energy efficiency advocacy throughout the region. Happy to

525
00:35:04,060 --> 00:35:10,820
report what those funds were able to do 2000 residential upgrades. And a lot of that were incentive

526
00:35:10,820 --> 00:35:18,660
dollars. And since that time, we've really pretty much exhausted those funds. Our other sources

527
00:35:18,660 --> 00:35:25,160
of revenue come from pace, which I know the City of Loveland is a partner with that on with

528
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:32,360
us as well, in addition to that specific to the get-efficient program, we were able to secure

529
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:39,480
grant funds from Duke Energy, so that's funding get-efficient, and then we do have specific

530
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:45,280
contracts with the City of Cincinnati. They've been a partner with us for several years,

531
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:47,360
So it's a wide spectrum.

532
00:35:48,940 --> 00:35:50,420
Thank you.

533
00:35:50,540 --> 00:35:53,820
Mrs. Satell, thanks for coming.

534
00:35:54,340 --> 00:35:55,940
You mentioned pace financing.

535
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:59,600
We just have pace financing here in law one for commercial.

536
00:35:59,820 --> 00:36:00,260
Correct.

537
00:36:00,580 --> 00:36:03,900
So you're intent to extend pace into residential.

538
00:36:04,420 --> 00:36:09,360
So state wide, I know that it's kind of percolating.

539
00:36:09,660 --> 00:36:12,700
Like there's certainly a movement for that.

540
00:36:12,700 --> 00:36:20,580
I believe the city of Toledo is piloting something like that, but the application to multiple

541
00:36:20,580 --> 00:36:25,500
communities hasn't really happened yet, it's certainly something we're following and we're

542
00:36:25,500 --> 00:36:33,000
certainly interested in that template, but it just hasn't kind of come down the pike just yet.

543
00:36:33,720 --> 00:36:41,480
So can you walk me through the process? So the way I understand it, if a resident is interested,

544
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:48,040
they go online? Yes, to get aficion.org. And then what happens after that? Sure.

545
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:55,080
I think it can contract. Yeah, happy to. So both with geteficion.org and Solaris for the Solaris

546
00:36:55,080 --> 00:37:02,220
program, that's also on the web. Basically your residents would go to either website on the geteficion

547
00:37:02,220 --> 00:37:09,880
side. They'll see that kind of first home page. And they're given a couple of options as to where they

548
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:18,360
could go. The first option is a really cool unique opportunity to do an LED lighting upgrade.

549
00:37:18,740 --> 00:37:24,880
We have a partner that we're utilizing called be Franklin and it's basically a trial kit

550
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:30,840
that they can plug into to see if LED lighting would work for them.

551
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:36,360
And it's hyper custom. There are multiple types of bulbs that you can use in a lovely

552
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:43,140
as a very historic community, so that could be of great utility to them as well, and then the

553
00:37:43,140 --> 00:37:51,660
two other pathways are find a contractor, one of the biggest pieces of what we do is really

554
00:37:51,660 --> 00:37:58,480
try to build a bridge between residents and consumers to qualified contractors and these qualified

555
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:05,280
contractors have been with us since 2009. So we're looking at, you know, almost a decade in terms

556
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:12,080
of them being with us, and so heating and cooling, air ceiling, subjects like that, they're

557
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:19,360
able to basically click a dropdown menu and then put in some very basic contact information

558
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:25,300
and then on our backend, it will select randomly because we want to make it fair to our

559
00:38:25,300 --> 00:38:32,280
contractor network, basically the contractors randomly selected and then that resident would

560
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:39,320
get an email stating, you know, XYZ contractor will be contacting you within 24 to 48 hours

561
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:45,300
to start getting the ball rolling. And then the third pathway is another kind of bread and

562
00:38:45,300 --> 00:38:52,200
butter item for us. It's connecting the resident with an energy advisor. That's us. We're

563
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:58,860
not doing offshore phone calls. So that's a big piece of what we do is to connect with

564
00:38:58,860 --> 00:39:05,020
residents if they have questions about their home any kind of energy efficiency challenges that

565
00:39:05,020 --> 00:39:10,880
they're having and kind of troubleshoot with them and there's a great tool that's called the

566
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:17,440
acuity scheduler they're able to actually pick the date and time that they want to be called and

567
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:24,180
that's one will have that phone call and depending on how the conversation goes they could be

568
00:39:24,180 --> 00:39:28,580
know if they want to be connected to a contractor, we can do that as well.

569
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:30,960
Do you help with finding?

570
00:39:31,860 --> 00:39:36,800
So on the solarized piece, there's the 30% federal tax credit.

571
00:39:37,340 --> 00:39:43,320
On the get-efficient piece, basically, you know, unfortunately there are no incentives

572
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:49,680
at this stage, but we do, we can point residents to some resources that are out there in

573
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:57,900
of financial institutions as well as the state of Ohio has a couple of programs to kind of

574
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:05,960
basically buy down the interest rate on some efficiency improvements. So there are resources out there

575
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:11,260
that we can guide. But they're not going to get free money. Correct. Yes.

576
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:15,480
Anyone else? Mr. Butler?

577
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:19,520
Yes, so Tom, I'm looking at the city's website. It's something we move forward with this.

578
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:29,540
We have like six permanent icons city desk meeting agendas online payments and so forth and then we have sort of informational boxes below that

579
00:40:30,140 --> 00:40:37,540
Would you see this sort of like an information box kind of a permanent placement or would it be included in like our permanent

580
00:40:37,540 --> 00:40:45,400
Sort of six sort of fixtures on the website we can do either one we could do both we I know we have an icon

581
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:59,620
I'm not an icon, but an area on the website where we put like the, what was the one I just did a little bit ago with the house cycling and stuff like that. Yeah, we could put it in with that.

582
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:12,760
You know, I think we could put it all three. We could do that. How it's pretty flexible. We could put it wherever you get the how do eyes and you got the communities, which has all the different resources that he talked to.

583
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:22,160
to. Thanks. Yes, Tom. I apologize, Mayor Council and my memo. I read in your materials, the

584
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:26,200
tax credit was for the get-efficiency, but you're saying it's not. Yeah, it's just for the solar

585
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:32,180
rise. So, and I apologize if that wasn't clear, but yeah, the 30% federal tax credit is definitely

586
00:41:32,180 --> 00:41:38,600
for the solar program. So, this is really the year to really activate that. We actually just

587
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:42,620
started the Solarized Campaign March 1st at end of June 30th.

588
00:41:42,720 --> 00:41:45,600
So we're really trying to get that ground swell movement

589
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:48,620
to get people to get to that program.

590
00:41:49,240 --> 00:41:50,880
OK, Mr. Phelps?

591
00:41:51,720 --> 00:41:56,320
Yeah, I mean, the page of the materials for the record,

592
00:41:56,500 --> 00:41:58,360
it's page 57 of our packet.

593
00:41:58,700 --> 00:42:02,200
It talks about the Solarized program that says that it

594
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:05,980
can provide discounts to make Solar more full.

595
00:42:05,980 --> 00:42:13,800
So that is referring to the RFP that we put out on an annual basis for this program and so

596
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:18,960
the discount basically because of all the communities that we've signed on.

597
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:25,400
So when we put out that RFP, the contractors know that we're bringing them volume, happy

598
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:30,900
to report that we're currently our programs are reaching 25% of the population of the region,

599
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:34,060
which is roughly 500,000 people.

600
00:42:34,060 --> 00:42:55,820
So with that volume that we're bringing, the contractors know that they're going to have, you know, a certain volume, I mean it's a, you know, kind of number out there, but basically they're able to provide somewhat of a discount on top of the 30% federal tax credit that your residents would be able to get.

601
00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:57,660
So it's robust.

602
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:05,800
And just another concern I have is diminishing of property values, if a lot of people put

603
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:11,080
solar panels on their roofs, is that in your experience reduced property values?

604
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:17,360
Actually, it's, in my opinion, and just from, again, from my organization standpoint,

605
00:43:17,580 --> 00:43:23,460
it actually would improve property values, because you're adding an asset to the property,

606
00:43:23,460 --> 00:43:30,720
and you're actually being able to produce some of the energy on site. So that would enhance

607
00:43:30,720 --> 00:43:31,580
the asset.

608
00:43:34,570 --> 00:43:39,050
Any other announcements, Mississa, tell? So you said it reached what 500,000?

609
00:43:40,230 --> 00:43:41,830
Yeah, so our current with our...

610
00:43:41,830 --> 00:43:48,830
We're using it, though. So for the get-efficient program with our get-efficient.org,

611
00:43:49,690 --> 00:43:55,810
we've had roughly just under 10,000 people visit that website, which for a niche program is

612
00:43:55,810 --> 00:44:02,250
actually pretty pretty good in terms of numbers and then the solarized program we have done

613
00:44:03,290 --> 00:44:11,210
roughly on average 1200 assessments every year and again these are niche programs but it's definitely

614
00:44:11,210 --> 00:44:18,770
getting the word out about. So you've had people go online but not everybody has signed up.

615
00:44:18,930 --> 00:44:24,950
Yeah I mean there's there's certainly you know some drop-off that happens but that's you know

616
00:44:24,950 --> 00:44:27,610
That's expected and our modeling, you know,

617
00:44:27,710 --> 00:44:28,890
takes that into account.

618
00:44:29,530 --> 00:44:34,790
So I guess we're being asked to give a seal of approval to this.

619
00:44:34,810 --> 00:44:36,570
And I don't know that I'm ready to do that.

620
00:44:37,010 --> 00:44:42,350
I do have some concerns about things that can be put

621
00:44:45,410 --> 00:44:48,090
into subdivisions where there are HOA documents.

622
00:44:49,530 --> 00:44:53,670
So I really would like to check that out before I go ahead

623
00:44:53,670 --> 00:44:57,830
and vote for that, it's hate to say it's available and we find out we can't do it.

624
00:44:58,530 --> 00:44:59,970
I am particularly since we don't have anything.

625
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:01,560
So,

626
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:22,860
yeah, and just so that you all know in Glendale and Wyoming, they do have, because of the historic nature of those communities, there are some restrictions and we're never going to guide people to, you know, a contractor or go through that whole process of there are restrictions.

627
00:45:22,860 --> 00:45:30,840
And so that is something that internally were aware of and we would work with the residents to address that.

628
00:45:35,490 --> 00:45:40,290
Yeah, I thought it would just be more comfortable having restrictions in place first if that's what we want to do.

629
00:45:40,630 --> 00:45:43,750
And then look at a program like this, that's just my opinion.

630
00:45:46,510 --> 00:45:47,610
All right, any other comments?

631
00:45:48,830 --> 00:45:50,610
So, yes, Mr. Gore.

632
00:45:50,610 --> 00:45:53,910
I'm not sure, I understand what you're suggesting, Councilman's thoughts.

633
00:45:54,650 --> 00:46:00,990
I'm just not certain we as a city need to be putting the city in a position where we're

634
00:46:01,790 --> 00:46:05,450
incentivizing solar panels being placed on rooftops.

635
00:46:06,050 --> 00:46:13,430
And again, I don't know enough about the impact that can have on property values nor do I

636
00:46:13,430 --> 00:46:18,110
necessarily want to incentivize something that is completely unregulated as far as we've

637
00:46:18,110 --> 00:46:20,930
tonight by city ordinance and regulation.

638
00:46:21,270 --> 00:46:23,130
Thank you.

639
00:46:23,510 --> 00:46:24,950
All right.

640
00:46:25,450 --> 00:46:31,430
So we can vote on this tonight or we can have a motion of some kind if you

641
00:46:31,430 --> 00:46:37,390
was someone wants to refer it to one of our staff to get answer some of those questions.

642
00:46:38,490 --> 00:46:40,170
If I don't hear or otherwise, well, vote on it.

643
00:46:40,310 --> 00:46:40,950
Yes, Mr. Blair.

644
00:46:41,230 --> 00:46:46,230
I'd like to refer it to staff to have more, more study done in some of these questions

645
00:46:46,230 --> 00:46:46,790
answer.

646
00:46:46,790 --> 00:46:47,530
Okay.

647
00:46:48,590 --> 00:46:50,550
Make a motion to that effect.

648
00:46:51,830 --> 00:46:53,790
I move that we

649
00:46:54,810 --> 00:46:56,330
table the motion.

650
00:47:00,420 --> 00:47:03,040
I think we're just referring it to

651
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:04,200
staff, correct?

652
00:47:04,300 --> 00:47:05,100
I moved it.

653
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:05,860
I moved it.

654
00:47:06,220 --> 00:47:06,440
I moved it.

655
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:07,140
I moved it.

656
00:47:07,140 --> 00:47:07,200
I moved it.

657
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:07,840
I moved it.

658
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:08,720
I moved it.

659
00:47:08,720 --> 00:47:09,080
I moved it.

660
00:47:10,180 --> 00:47:17,800
I moved it.

661
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:20,060
to answer some of these questions.

662
00:47:22,890 --> 00:47:26,350
And then we bring back the council that we were suggesting.

663
00:47:27,610 --> 00:47:29,050
We can handle this in a couple of ways.

664
00:47:29,230 --> 00:47:34,370
We could move to withdraw it from the agenda and allow staff to come back and make recommendations.

665
00:47:35,030 --> 00:47:38,790
And then we would have a first and a second reading on those recommendations with it.

666
00:47:38,970 --> 00:47:45,570
The other option would be to try to think how procedurally we would call that.

667
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:54,720
I mean, you can just have the motion referred, yeah, because staff has made recommendations on the legislation.

668
00:47:55,320 --> 00:48:03,180
Why don't we make a motion to withdraw it from the agenda and have it referred back to staff back to, and you can,

669
00:48:03,340 --> 00:48:06,220
Dave, do you want to put it on a council manager? Sure.

670
00:48:06,860 --> 00:48:08,340
I mean, it's really up to council.

671
00:48:08,580 --> 00:48:14,000
I can tell you that in another community I represent, we looked at something like this in the last couple months.

672
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:17,920
I found what you're talking about solar panel regulations.

673
00:48:18,940 --> 00:48:22,260
They're particularly popular up in your Lake Erie, up in Northern Ohio,

674
00:48:22,980 --> 00:48:26,000
and I have some of those that I can give to the City Manager to look at.

675
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:31,080
They're not definitive, but they're certainly, I would say, advisory

676
00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:32,840
on some things we could do.

677
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:36,220
And maybe we could come back with a program for incorporating

678
00:48:36,220 --> 00:48:37,900
into our zoning code how it would look,

679
00:48:38,460 --> 00:48:41,260
and then maybe secondarily considering, you know,

680
00:48:41,260 --> 00:48:45,500
It's a more efficient means of energy.

681
00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:48,280
I don't think anybody is saying they're opposed to that.

682
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:49,820
I think you're just opposed to passing it

683
00:48:49,820 --> 00:48:50,720
without having regulation.

684
00:48:51,660 --> 00:48:53,640
So why don't you move to have it

685
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:55,180
referred, remove from the agenda,

686
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:58,060
and refer back to staff for additional information?

687
00:48:58,600 --> 00:48:59,860
So moved.

688
00:49:01,740 --> 00:49:02,780
Any further discussion?

689
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:04,660
Call the roll, please.

690
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:06,200
Mr. Blair.

691
00:49:06,740 --> 00:49:07,140
Mr. Butler.

692
00:49:07,700 --> 00:49:08,320
Mr. Orie.

693
00:49:08,740 --> 00:49:09,320
Mr. Phelps.

694
00:49:09,500 --> 00:49:09,640
Yes.

695
00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:13,760
Mr. Tell, Vice Mayor Wise Girls, Mayor Bailey, yes.

696
00:49:13,860 --> 00:49:14,940
Motion carries seven to see you.

697
00:49:14,940 --> 00:49:16,180
So, Kevin, thank you for coming.

698
00:49:16,380 --> 00:49:17,080
It's not a no.

699
00:49:18,060 --> 00:49:19,440
We're working on it.

700
00:49:19,580 --> 00:49:21,380
Absolutely. Well, thank you for the time.

701
00:49:21,700 --> 00:49:22,120
Thank you.

702
00:49:23,060 --> 00:49:23,640
Thank you.

703
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:25,140
All right.

704
00:49:28,510 --> 00:49:30,190
Next item, Mr. Kennedy.

705
00:49:30,830 --> 00:49:38,230
So, the 2019 budgeting process, which we begin in August, includes staff getting together

706
00:49:38,230 --> 00:49:41,330
on various CIPs, which are projects, capital improvement projects.

707
00:49:41,330 --> 00:49:48,550
And one of the items we had discussed early in 18 to have on the 2019 budget was sort of our next

708
00:49:48,550 --> 00:49:52,410
of multiple phases of lighting improvements in the downtown district.

709
00:49:54,290 --> 00:50:01,590
2016, 2017, the city completely read it all the heads out on the existing street lights with LED lighting.

710
00:50:01,910 --> 00:50:09,750
Not only did it was at a cost savings, it was a cost savings, both from electric and it was also a cost savings and standpoint of manpower.

711
00:50:09,750 --> 00:50:15,810
every morning it was not a comment to fear for those to be out and it created a very consistent

712
00:50:15,810 --> 00:50:23,110
lighting and that was one of the projects we then added a bell style lighting on Carl Brown

713
00:50:24,090 --> 00:50:31,530
from Harrison to West Lovelin we've recently added bell style lighting on Harrison and of

714
00:50:31,530 --> 00:50:36,990
course we added bell style lighting on East Lovelin from the Nature Preserve entryway all the way

715
00:50:36,990 --> 00:50:41,850
East Levelin. The next step that we're getting, and this isn't just based on us wanting to do

716
00:50:41,850 --> 00:50:48,890
this, this is based upon the amount of foot traffic that we get on the bike trail. And so we

717
00:50:49,630 --> 00:50:56,130
following the lead of what the Levelin Sims Firefighter Association did when they did sweetheart lane

718
00:50:56,130 --> 00:51:02,650
without the weather veins and all that with was taking the shepherd cook, sliding, and redoing

719
00:51:02,650 --> 00:51:11,510
heads and installing LED fixtures. In addition to that, as you can see, I try to give

720
00:51:11,510 --> 00:51:17,570
as many pictures as possible. Every one of those polls has and we utilize outlets on a regular

721
00:51:17,570 --> 00:51:22,630
basis. Those are for Christmas lighting for city events. And those are important. As you

722
00:51:22,630 --> 00:51:28,770
can see, the condition is not a good shape. And as we also have some that are obstructed.

723
00:51:28,770 --> 00:51:35,130
So we received a quote, we put in a CIP of $15,000 that was right in line with what the numbers

724
00:51:35,130 --> 00:51:35,910
were coming in.

725
00:51:36,030 --> 00:51:40,010
We worked with Trevor Electric during the process and then it was brought to our attention

726
00:51:40,010 --> 00:51:45,210
that coming out of Linda Cox, Linda Day, Cox Parking Area, we have a bit of a lighting issue

727
00:51:45,210 --> 00:51:52,210
on the north on the south side when you come out of the parking lot and you begin to come

728
00:51:52,210 --> 00:51:52,770
across.

729
00:51:52,770 --> 00:51:59,450
Well, ironically, we have a bit of a bit of an abundance of lighting on the north side,

730
00:51:59,810 --> 00:52:02,070
so meeting Chetuber myself and the electrical.

731
00:52:02,950 --> 00:52:07,830
The picture you see of the two lights, we would be adding one of those, removing one

732
00:52:07,830 --> 00:52:14,230
of those, again, it's a cost savings, other expensive and relocating it across the trail.

733
00:52:15,050 --> 00:52:20,070
That will greatly increase the lighting on the, for those coming out of the Linda Jock's

734
00:52:20,070 --> 00:52:25,850
parking area that are large portion of them who are coming in to downtown district.

735
00:52:26,790 --> 00:52:32,790
That particular area you see in that picture benefits from these two lights, one of which

736
00:52:32,790 --> 00:52:33,650
will be gone.

737
00:52:33,910 --> 00:52:38,330
A shepherd hook like right over my shoulder when I was taking the picture and a considerable

738
00:52:38,330 --> 00:52:41,390
alighting that comes from love and station in the brown stunts.

739
00:52:41,690 --> 00:52:46,910
So that area can definitely stand to lose one light to the benefit of a cross-street.

740
00:52:46,910 --> 00:52:54,010
So, we added that in and we still stayed within our $15,000 price range.

741
00:52:55,210 --> 00:53:05,170
But one of the other items that we're getting, this comes directly from concerns from residents is in the area around theness,

742
00:53:05,170 --> 00:53:11,770
Since the Nizvit park restrooms, that lighting is home depost-style lighting, it's very

743
00:53:11,770 --> 00:53:20,570
subpar, that including the lighting underneath the overpass and that area needs to be upgraded.

744
00:53:21,610 --> 00:53:27,430
We are not including all of the Shepard 16 Shepard of Glites in Nizvit, that's way over

745
00:53:27,430 --> 00:53:32,450
the budget and we're hoping because we're applying for a grant this year for nature works

746
00:53:32,450 --> 00:53:37,930
to redo the restrooms. So what we're hoping is that we get the grant to give the restrooms a complete once over

747
00:53:37,930 --> 00:53:47,250
facelift, new roof, new fixtures, new order, new floors, new doors, the whole deal, and with that, we would then put on the 2020

748
00:53:48,070 --> 00:53:54,190
CIP, doing the same feature to all the fixtures in NISBIT. So additionally,

749
00:53:55,810 --> 00:54:02,230
One other small item in, not small, I'm a important item, then this part flagpole, lighting

750
00:54:02,230 --> 00:54:08,530
is out and it needs to be upgraded and replaced, it is damaged and that, as everyone

751
00:54:08,530 --> 00:54:11,050
knows, is important at a flag, be properly lit.

752
00:54:11,710 --> 00:54:19,610
And the final item is the, we realize that I accidentally turned off the line at the emergency

753
00:54:19,610 --> 00:54:25,790
call button next to NISBIT, but merge the call button is button that you can push if you

754
00:54:25,790 --> 00:54:33,470
were any kind of problem on the bike trail, it's right where K and Tim live. I accidentally

755
00:54:33,470 --> 00:54:40,330
we disconnected that line, finally got that line working again, and that requires a blue light.

756
00:54:40,330 --> 00:54:46,390
So, we ended up going slightly over the $15,000 only by $680.

757
00:54:47,870 --> 00:54:53,790
I can pay, I can cover the $15,000 from the CIP straight up and then out of the

758
00:54:53,790 --> 00:55:00,130
Parts and Leisure Operation Account, line 9 and 1341, 533,23 will be taken the surplus of

759
00:55:00,130 --> 00:55:00,930
the 680.

760
00:55:01,450 --> 00:55:08,530
And for 15,680, we are talking about a really significant upgrade in our lighting and downtown

761
00:55:08,530 --> 00:55:14,530
district from Broadway, from the other side of Broadway, all the way to including basically

762
00:55:14,530 --> 00:55:20,250
right up to the bridge. So that's a pretty important thing. And as I talked about, and

763
00:55:20,250 --> 00:55:24,730
no one, I'm not sure anybody really cared about it, but when we talked about it in the

764
00:55:24,730 --> 00:55:28,890
state of the city, you know, we are seeing more and more pedestrians. And we're encouraging

765
00:55:28,890 --> 00:55:33,730
people to park at the Linda Cox parking lot. So it only makes sense that if we're getting

766
00:55:33,730 --> 00:55:37,490
more and more people walking on the trail at the same time, we're telling people to go park

767
00:55:37,490 --> 00:55:42,510
at Linda Cox. We want to make all of this a smooth, we know the city safe, but we also want

768
00:55:42,510 --> 00:55:46,590
to add sort of that comfort level that would come with better lighting. And it's lighting

769
00:55:47,070 --> 00:55:54,630
that, when I was taking these pictures, some of these are 50 white bulbs. So it's a pretty

770
00:55:54,630 --> 00:55:59,250
significant upgrade. I can't thank Trevor Electric enough. He's been working with us since July

771
00:55:59,250 --> 00:56:07,070
on this. So that is the whole package that $680 put it over my spending limit. So with

772
00:56:07,070 --> 00:56:15,790
That I bring it forth to you for what I think will be quite an improvement to the downtown district, so that's that.

773
00:56:16,070 --> 00:56:17,630
All right, any questions or comments?

774
00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:20,340
Mr. Butler.

775
00:56:20,740 --> 00:56:21,900
Dave, thanks for the work on this.

776
00:56:21,980 --> 00:56:24,620
I know several residents have expressed to me.

777
00:56:24,820 --> 00:56:31,220
They're concerned about parking in the in the Cox lot to walk to the restaurants, which are becoming, as we know, very busy.

778
00:56:31,220 --> 00:56:36,190
Parking is at a premium. We do want to drive traffic to that lot, and I think this will really help

779
00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:43,230
The people feel safe and the restaurant's be able to take care of their patrons. So I appreciate it. Thank you

780
00:56:44,340 --> 00:56:45,320
Anyone else

781
00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:48,560
Resolution please

782
00:56:49,380 --> 00:56:55,680
The rising the city manager of the city and agreement with Trevor electric contractors seemed to complete the bike trail lighting improvement project

783
00:56:56,740 --> 00:57:01,280
Any comments questions on the actual resolution call the rollpoints?

784
00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:04,560
Yes.

785
00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:05,640
Yes.

786
00:57:05,780 --> 00:57:05,900
Yes.

787
00:57:05,900 --> 00:57:06,520
Vice Mayor Wise Gervs.

788
00:57:07,220 --> 00:57:07,600
Mayor Bailey.

789
00:57:08,300 --> 00:57:08,640
Mr. Blair.

790
00:57:09,540 --> 00:57:12,440
Resolution 20 is adopted by a vote of 70 zero.

791
00:57:12,860 --> 00:57:13,240
Mr. Kennedy.

792
00:57:13,720 --> 00:57:16,720
So just an idea that we've been tossing around.

793
00:57:18,380 --> 00:57:24,400
And if as many people know, the number one carrot that's a city has, when it comes

794
00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:29,420
to new businesses and ticing businesses is what we call a CRA programs.

795
00:57:29,420 --> 00:57:35,100
stands for Community Reinvestment Area, that's where we offer tax abatements for the increased

796
00:57:35,100 --> 00:57:36,860
value of a structure.

797
00:57:37,220 --> 00:57:39,480
These are very valuable tools.

798
00:57:39,980 --> 00:57:40,580
Most recently,

799
00:57:42,620 --> 00:57:47,320
I feel influential in getting both the plus key development up in the commerce

800
00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:51,640
park, and also the Oasis Project on Love and Deer Road.

801
00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:59,200
But the certain reality is just sort of hit me as we are coming around is that with only one

802
00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:09,800
not remaining within the Commerce Park, and with limited parcels available for commercial,

803
00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:13,060
we were in a bit of a redevelopment phase.

804
00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:18,200
And if someone comes forward with an expansion of existing business,

805
00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:24,660
let's just say Keith McClusky is going to need to quadruple his force and his business,

806
00:58:24,660 --> 00:58:30,040
It's not looking at making significant improvements to the box, the footprint of that building.

807
00:58:31,060 --> 00:58:36,340
And, once to know what the city wants to do to keep a very significant income tax in this city,

808
00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:40,020
I'm not to be a smart ass, but we got nothing.

809
00:58:40,320 --> 00:58:41,440
I have nothing to offer.

810
00:58:41,940 --> 00:58:43,060
That's just the way it is.

811
00:58:43,620 --> 00:58:45,660
We have nothing to do.

812
00:58:46,540 --> 00:58:54,620
And I reached, I talked to, ready to Cincinnati, I talked to HCDC, which stands for Hamilton County Development Company.

813
00:58:56,060 --> 00:59:00,860
And I'll be honest with you, when I went to Millford, I was impressed.

814
00:59:01,620 --> 00:59:07,040
The amount of incentives that that city offers, of course, something just like this.

815
00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:22,880
So, I had just been playing with the numbers and just to give you an idea of what we could potentially do with something like someone who would want to move into an existing box.

816
00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:37,240
And I'll see us building what if what if we're of course who is the drone company up in the commerce part grows to such a degree that they take that remaining they can parcel in the city

817
00:59:37,240 --> 00:59:45,980
Wouldn't it be nice to have something to entice that whoever wants to move into that so our economic development team which is me Tom and Eva

818
00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:59,780
It's a certain point we have to be able to keep up with the lemons and the millfords that white quite frankly right now have much more to offer on top of the series so this program

819
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:22,400
Quite simply, it's just an incentive, a tax back incentive. It's an incentive that, based on verification, through one year of service, for non-retail positions, paying 150% of the minimum wage, which currently is about $10.87.

820
01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:29,980
sense, they would receive under these different scenarios, they would receive an income tax

821
01:00:29,980 --> 01:00:38,640
incentive backed from the city when your after verification is made to Michelle.

822
01:00:39,880 --> 01:00:47,360
I just gave you a couple of scenarios and we can break these down into other similar, I've

823
01:00:47,360 --> 01:00:53,060
five and ten year programs but if you look at someone with just a three million dollar payroll

824
01:00:53,060 --> 01:00:59,280
which would get a five year term the the gross tax revenue to the city is thirty thousand dollars

825
01:00:59,280 --> 01:01:05,080
they would get a nine thousand dollar annual incentive back the city over that same term would get

826
01:01:05,080 --> 01:01:11,700
a hundred and fifty thousand dollars in tax income tax while the incentive would be forty five thousand

827
01:01:11,700 --> 01:01:15,780
The way this program is structured, it has to be at the forefront.

828
01:01:16,480 --> 01:01:22,640
You are not allowed to purchase the property, begin a project, catch wind of it, and go back and get the incentive.

829
01:01:23,460 --> 01:01:33,260
I spoke to a representative that handles this program at the state level, because while you can't use this Anna-CRA,

830
01:01:33,260 --> 01:01:40,040
you, if you want to do it, you could get a incentive from the city on our city and

831
01:01:40,040 --> 01:01:44,060
come tax and incentive from the state. That's no skin off our back. So it only

832
01:01:44,060 --> 01:01:47,900
made sense to call the lady who handles the program from the state. She gave me a

833
01:01:47,900 --> 01:01:52,960
lot of good ideas that would more than likely come into the final version that I would

834
01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:59,100
bring back to council. Plus ACDC read through it after the agenda was done and made

835
01:01:59,100 --> 01:02:04,280
more suggestions for me, but it would really could be a very valuable tool to make

836
01:02:04,280 --> 01:02:10,860
ensure that as people such as pure romance or people leave these big boxes in the city

837
01:02:10,860 --> 01:02:16,200
and someone wants to come in but they don't want, they're not planning any construction that

838
01:02:16,200 --> 01:02:22,240
would trigger a CRA and remember interior construction does very little to a CRA. CRA is

839
01:02:22,240 --> 01:02:27,160
most valuable when you're dealing with a vacant piece property. So I just think it's a tool

840
01:02:27,160 --> 01:02:28,200
would need some tweaking,

841
01:02:30,920 --> 01:02:34,720
but a common, and I see it with new people that are coming in.

842
01:02:35,400 --> 01:02:39,040
So that was the meat of the program,

843
01:02:41,500 --> 01:02:46,320
and I thought if you would want to do it for a couple

844
01:02:46,320 --> 01:02:50,740
years, just to see how it would work. Of course, anyone who was given an incentive in that

845
01:02:50,740 --> 01:02:56,780
period of time, if you guys cancel, would still be good. They wouldn't lose it. And I thought,

846
01:02:56,780 --> 01:02:59,380
Well, we now have a tax incentive review council.

847
01:03:00,480 --> 01:03:02,920
So wouldn't that be good to add to their annual meeting

848
01:03:02,920 --> 01:03:04,360
to review what we've done?

849
01:03:04,680 --> 01:03:07,600
And one of the nice things about it is the final thing

850
01:03:07,600 --> 01:03:10,960
is that, I mean, it's an amine way,

851
01:03:11,280 --> 01:03:13,080
but we don't have to ask the school for permission

852
01:03:13,940 --> 01:03:15,980
and the chief hubbers of the world,

853
01:03:16,280 --> 01:03:17,640
we're not impacted in their world.

854
01:03:18,320 --> 01:03:21,260
So because he does get impacted by tips

855
01:03:21,260 --> 01:03:24,320
and believe me, he gets impacted by CRAs and so does the school.

856
01:03:24,600 --> 01:03:25,920
This is our program.

857
01:03:25,920 --> 01:03:30,380
And we don't have to ask permission, and that's something I really like about another city

858
01:03:30,380 --> 01:03:30,960
told me that.

859
01:03:31,040 --> 01:03:33,500
And I thought, well, that's, I didn't come up with that on my own.

860
01:03:33,980 --> 01:03:37,500
He, that made a lot of sense that we're not asking other people, we don't have to go to

861
01:03:37,500 --> 01:03:37,780
the school.

862
01:03:38,380 --> 01:03:42,500
So I just think for us to be competitive with the millfords, the Lebanon's and the other

863
01:03:42,500 --> 01:03:48,240
communities, this is something I'd like to massage and ultimately bring back to you in

864
01:03:48,240 --> 01:03:50,420
the form of legislation.

865
01:03:52,660 --> 01:03:54,780
I appreciate you bringing it forward.

866
01:03:55,980 --> 01:03:56,680
Yes, vice mayor.

867
01:03:57,920 --> 01:04:01,200
Well, I'll just a little bit of difference in way of explanation.

868
01:04:01,800 --> 01:04:06,100
When you think about townships, right, as a municipality, we're different.

869
01:04:06,640 --> 01:04:08,800
And part of how we're different is how we're funded.

870
01:04:09,280 --> 01:04:12,400
On the township side, it's predominantly all property tax.

871
01:04:12,940 --> 01:04:19,940
So everything's levees, whether it's roads, parks, safety, it's a property tax levee.

872
01:04:19,940 --> 01:04:25,920
So, as businesses come in and you have all this green field kind of expansion, you build a building.

873
01:04:26,360 --> 01:04:34,160
If that business goes out and leaves, so long as it's maintained, the township still pretty much gets its property tax value.

874
01:04:35,020 --> 01:04:42,900
On a municipality where it's predominantly inkland tax-based, if you have somebody that comes in and leaves, you still have an empty building,

875
01:04:43,240 --> 01:04:46,380
but you don't have the inkland tax, so you have a whole left in your budget.

876
01:04:46,380 --> 01:05:07,400
So as we have these vacancies, we want to make sure we can fill those, and this is a great way to go down that path to incentivize folks to fill the positions, create the jobs inside of the city, and that's one of the key roles this council has along with staff is create jobs, and this is a way to do that.

877
01:05:07,660 --> 01:05:12,640
So I commend Dave for bringing that forward. Anyone else? Mr. Blair?

878
01:05:15,580 --> 01:05:22,140
So in the proposal, Dave, you mentioned that the current federal minimum wage is 10-87 or so.

879
01:05:22,280 --> 01:05:23,680
150 percent would be 10.

880
01:05:23,820 --> 01:05:24,640
It goes up.

881
01:05:24,640 --> 01:05:27,480
If the federal minimum wage goes up, would it not with this estimate?

882
01:05:27,780 --> 01:05:28,080
Yes.

883
01:05:28,360 --> 01:05:29,480
Confirm that with the state.

884
01:05:30,040 --> 01:05:35,500
It's whatever it is at the time, the application is applied for our verification from the

885
01:05:35,500 --> 01:05:37,680
lady at the state who helped me through all of this.

886
01:05:37,680 --> 01:05:44,280
And this is more directed at filling empty space, making it a tractable,

887
01:05:44,480 --> 01:05:50,600
just felt someone coming in from the outside, would it extend to existing tenants who want to expand?

888
01:05:50,700 --> 01:05:57,120
Oh yes, it's for retention and expansion and the only thing I'll add that looking at many

889
01:05:57,120 --> 01:06:01,200
communities that had these, some that I found on a website, some that I just reached out to there.

890
01:06:01,500 --> 01:06:07,240
People in the email, some get pretty specific with what jobs, they don't just say non-retail.

891
01:06:07,240 --> 01:06:12,900
So they only accept a certain type, I don't know that we're really there yet, I think that I thought that was a little.

892
01:06:13,200 --> 01:06:18,340
These are bigger communities, I think that could be, but I do from discussions with the Lady from the state.

893
01:06:18,940 --> 01:06:23,580
It really needs to be proven that this wasn't incentive that brought you in.

894
01:06:23,920 --> 01:06:27,480
I'm not going to kid you that I believe in my lifetime here at the city.

895
01:06:27,720 --> 01:06:32,420
There's been people who were all ready to go and then heard about CRA and then asked for it.

896
01:06:32,420 --> 01:06:42,700
So this program that's something I would tighten up on the program because it truly is an incentive and the reason why is then when you look at

897
01:06:42,700 --> 01:06:50,400
This grid and you look at city tax revenue over term a project that really is money that you weren't going to get so that's if it's done correctly

898
01:06:51,840 --> 01:06:52,760
Mr. Butler

899
01:06:52,760 --> 01:07:01,680
Dave is there an action you need from council tonight or you just wanted us to be aware that this is being contemplated and and will be before us at some time in the future

900
01:07:01,680 --> 01:07:09,540
Yeah, at some point time relatively soon time and I will be tweaking this, we'll go over what the impact the input we got from ECDC.

901
01:07:10,160 --> 01:07:16,040
I just got another sample from another community just today and ultimately I'll be bringing back full legislation.

902
01:07:16,820 --> 01:07:18,080
It will be an ordinance.

903
01:07:18,960 --> 01:07:29,940
It will go in the same program with the CRA numbering system and it will have a time frame on it if you think that makes sense.

904
01:07:30,500 --> 01:07:42,400
Great. I look forward to it. Look forward to seeing the final draft and like you. I see the millifers and Mason's of the world using these vehicles and instruments and I think it's important for that to be in our toolkit.

905
01:07:43,520 --> 01:07:44,180
Mr. Roy?

906
01:07:45,500 --> 01:07:49,940
I'm just going to say that with Tim just said, I think it's a great program when I read through this.

907
01:07:50,760 --> 01:07:57,900
Prior to the meeting here, I was just like why haven't we done this so thanks for day for looking into that.

908
01:07:59,140 --> 01:08:00,400
Mr. Phelps?

909
01:08:00,660 --> 01:08:01,980
I just don't go.

910
01:08:02,240 --> 01:08:05,460
I think we've been at a competitive disadvantage without it.

911
01:08:05,560 --> 01:08:09,400
And so, my direction would be go forth with haste on this.

912
01:08:10,360 --> 01:08:11,180
Is this the town?

913
01:08:11,600 --> 01:08:13,900
I don't know that we've been at a disadvantage.

914
01:08:14,540 --> 01:08:16,760
We've usually gotten companies to come in,

915
01:08:16,920 --> 01:08:17,960
but regardless of that,

916
01:08:18,180 --> 01:08:21,120
the one thing when you're looking at

917
01:08:21,120 --> 01:08:26,500
giving income tax incentives to be very careful

918
01:08:26,500 --> 01:08:36,980
Because if you look at our revenue, the bulk of our tax money comes from withholding.

919
01:08:37,680 --> 01:08:39,640
So those are the people.

920
01:08:40,300 --> 01:08:44,340
So the money that we're getting from this are from the employees.

921
01:08:45,340 --> 01:08:49,180
So we're giving back to the company the money that they're employees.

922
01:08:49,180 --> 01:08:50,160
Yes, you're 100%.

923
01:08:50,160 --> 01:08:52,760
So to me, that's a disconnect.

924
01:08:52,760 --> 01:08:56,940
because it doesn't mean that that company is going to give those people back their money.

925
01:08:57,240 --> 01:08:58,660
The company is going to use it for something else.

926
01:08:58,920 --> 01:09:08,140
So I would just tread very lightly on that and keep in mind because our income tax is the bulk of our revenue.

927
01:09:08,300 --> 01:09:13,840
It's 65% of our revenue and withholding is 59% of that.

928
01:09:15,580 --> 01:09:22,520
So I would run some numbers on that too before making your final recommendation if you would.

929
01:09:22,520 --> 01:09:31,900
Yes, and the verification would be a team between myself, Michelle and Don, who has at her fingertips

930
01:09:31,900 --> 01:09:36,640
able to really do the verification, because I'm at the time of this year.

931
01:09:36,720 --> 01:09:42,320
I'm at a time of year where I have to write letters to everyone as a CRA to see if they're meeting their requirements.

932
01:09:42,960 --> 01:09:50,360
And I work very closely with Don this time of year to verify that people actually have the number of jobs,

933
01:09:50,360 --> 01:09:55,160
and they pay rule that they committed to to get that CRA.

934
01:09:55,720 --> 01:09:56,460
So, yes.

935
01:09:57,260 --> 01:09:57,960
Any other comments?

936
01:09:59,140 --> 01:09:59,300
All right.

937
01:09:59,300 --> 01:10:03,640
I think Mr. Kennedy was looking for direction and I think you have it.

938
01:10:03,880 --> 01:10:11,500
I think Council looks forward to having the legislation with regard to the concern about losing income tax.

939
01:10:11,560 --> 01:10:16,680
I think what you explained is the whole point of this is to bring in income tax that we would not otherwise have.

940
01:10:16,680 --> 01:10:19,680
So it's not losing what we don't otherwise have.

941
01:10:20,960 --> 01:10:21,760
Mrs. Cheshire.

942
01:10:23,400 --> 01:10:25,540
Each year, City Council presents two awards.

943
01:10:25,680 --> 01:10:28,400
The first being the Loveland Business Enhancement Award.

944
01:10:29,020 --> 01:10:33,600
This award is given to a business in the city that has demonstrated in increase in business,

945
01:10:33,920 --> 01:10:35,960
increase in the number of employees on the payroll,

946
01:10:36,600 --> 01:10:40,080
and exhibited the most effort to enhance the aesthetics of their property through

947
01:10:40,080 --> 01:10:44,600
a combination of renovation, building additions, painting, and beautification projects.

948
01:10:44,600 --> 01:10:50,860
This program began in the year 2000 and the list of those recipients are included in the

949
01:10:50,860 --> 01:10:51,320
memorandum.

950
01:10:52,160 --> 01:10:56,200
The second award given by Council is the Lewis T. Rockward Community Service Volunteer

951
01:10:56,200 --> 01:10:56,880
Award.

952
01:10:57,320 --> 01:11:02,440
This award recognizes the time and accomplishments of volunteers serving the city.

953
01:11:03,060 --> 01:11:07,480
It's not available for council members, members of the city administration on employees or

954
01:11:07,480 --> 01:11:08,540
paid consultants.

955
01:11:11,380 --> 01:11:16,980
This program's been in effect since 1987, so 32 years and all the names are on plaques out in the lobby.

956
01:11:19,060 --> 01:11:27,680
If Council agrees, I'm going to suggest that all nominations be submitted to me by Friday March 22nd.

957
01:11:28,180 --> 01:11:35,780
That way a vote can be taken at the March 26th City Council meeting and the awards to be presented on April 9th at that City Council meeting.

958
01:11:36,740 --> 01:11:48,800
When the nominations are made, please include a brief history of your nominee and or resume describing why they should receive those awards, so everyone could have all the information to vote.

959
01:11:50,880 --> 01:11:51,020
All right.

960
01:11:51,140 --> 01:11:53,780
To you, what the nominations by Friday the 22nd?

961
01:11:55,120 --> 01:11:57,060
That way they can be included in the next packet, yes.

962
01:11:59,580 --> 01:12:01,100
All right, so everybody have any questions, comments?

963
01:12:03,380 --> 01:12:03,780
All right.

964
01:12:05,100 --> 01:12:11,400
Mr. Kennedy the city received a request from Megan Lowley she's a senior at the

965
01:12:11,400 --> 01:12:16,420
level in high school she's requesting a waiver for the event application for

966
01:12:16,420 --> 01:12:20,940
their annual senior parade Megan was actually going to try to be in attendance

967
01:12:20,940 --> 01:12:27,280
with some other seniors but they are we're busy so this probably wraps this up

968
01:12:27,280 --> 01:12:29,700
for the year until we get to home coming in the fall.

969
01:12:31,240 --> 01:12:32,560
So, talk to Chief Ray.

970
01:12:33,660 --> 01:12:36,900
They're, it's obviously an event that he's plays big role in

971
01:12:36,900 --> 01:12:39,140
and it goes without any issues whatsoever.

972
01:12:40,180 --> 01:12:41,760
Does not impact the downtown district

973
01:12:41,760 --> 01:12:44,320
and I think it's a good gesture of recommendation

974
01:12:44,320 --> 01:12:47,520
that the city wave the $150 fee.

975
01:12:47,960 --> 01:12:50,380
And given credit for asking, I thought that somewhere

976
01:12:50,380 --> 01:12:52,260
up there they're telling people they need to ask.

977
01:12:52,280 --> 01:12:54,740
I think that's a nice thing rather than just assume

978
01:12:54,740 --> 01:12:55,680
that we're going to wave it.

979
01:12:55,680 --> 01:12:58,300
So, they're doing that correctly, so.

980
01:12:58,480 --> 01:12:59,680
Any questions or comments?

981
01:13:00,420 --> 01:13:01,680
Someone please make a motion.

982
01:13:06,160 --> 01:13:06,540
Oh, go ahead.

983
01:13:06,760 --> 01:13:10,140
I didn't move to approve a fee waiver for the high school senior parade.

984
01:13:11,960 --> 01:13:13,460
Have an old place.

985
01:13:14,360 --> 01:13:14,940
Mr. Orie?

986
01:13:15,560 --> 01:13:16,180
Mr. Phelps?

987
01:13:16,320 --> 01:13:16,580
Yes.

988
01:13:16,720 --> 01:13:17,200
Mr. Taylor?

989
01:13:17,780 --> 01:13:18,620
Vice Mayor Wise Gerber?

990
01:13:19,360 --> 01:13:19,780
Mayor Bailey?

991
01:13:20,460 --> 01:13:20,780
Mr. Blair?

992
01:13:20,820 --> 01:13:21,100
Yes.

993
01:13:21,280 --> 01:13:21,720
Mr. Butler?

994
01:13:22,020 --> 01:13:22,260
Yes.

995
01:13:22,260 --> 01:13:24,280
motion carries seven to zero.

996
01:13:24,900 --> 01:13:28,300
Does anybody have any comments or questions regarding the building and zoning monthly report?

997
01:13:29,660 --> 01:13:36,500
There is no councilmanic do any questions or comments on the committee minutes or reports that are in the packet?

998
01:13:37,560 --> 01:13:40,120
Does anybody have any city council reports or comments?

999
01:13:42,470 --> 01:13:48,210
I would just mention that we do have a special meeting scheduled for next Monday, March 18th at 730 here at City Hall.

1000
01:13:48,210 --> 01:13:52,910
And the purpose is for City Council to receive an update from Yardon Company regarding the downtown

1001
01:13:52,910 --> 01:13:53,530
plan.

1002
01:13:55,760 --> 01:13:56,300
So, one please.

1003
01:13:56,900 --> 01:13:56,980
Yes.

1004
01:13:57,160 --> 01:14:03,900
Since we're talking about that, in connection with that, there will be a public session on April

1005
01:14:04,780 --> 01:14:09,740
1st at the Bond furniture warehouse behind Magnolia's.

1006
01:14:10,840 --> 01:14:12,000
Police at 6 o'clock?

1007
01:14:12,140 --> 01:14:12,640
Is that right, Sean?

1008
01:14:13,080 --> 01:14:13,680
6 o'clock.

1009
01:14:14,620 --> 01:14:16,940
And encourage members of the public to come.

1010
01:14:16,940 --> 01:14:24,680
I think everybody agrees the first session was well-received and people felt listen to and

1011
01:14:24,680 --> 01:14:28,540
and you'll those who come on the April 1st meeting I think will have the same reaction

1012
01:14:28,540 --> 01:14:29,200
and same feeling.

1013
01:14:29,980 --> 01:14:31,960
So please pass that around to your friends and neighbors.

1014
01:14:32,600 --> 01:14:34,900
We want to get as much public input as possible.

1015
01:14:36,380 --> 01:14:37,120
Any other reports?

1016
01:14:37,780 --> 01:14:38,040
All right.

1017
01:14:38,260 --> 01:14:40,520
Someone please make a motion regarding the executive session.

1018
01:14:41,900 --> 01:14:50,300
I moved to go to Executive Session under a hot revised code section 1, 2, 1, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, to consider the least purchase or sale of property.

1019
01:14:51,520 --> 01:14:52,220
Call the roll, please.

1020
01:14:54,340 --> 01:14:55,100
Mr. Phelps?

1021
01:14:55,740 --> 01:14:56,400
Mr. Phelps?

1022
01:14:56,420 --> 01:14:56,620
Yes.

1023
01:14:56,760 --> 01:14:57,540
Vice Mayor Wisegruber?

1024
01:14:57,640 --> 01:14:58,020
Yes.

1025
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:08,120
Mr. Butler? Yes. Motion carries 7 to 0. I do not foresee any business being conducted after a executive session.

1026
01:15:20,470 --> 01:15:22,530
You have a little emergency case.

1027
01:15:22,710 --> 01:15:23,110
Leave a mirror.

1028
01:15:23,570 --> 01:15:24,150
Leave a mirror.

1029
01:15:24,770 --> 01:15:25,470
For when you need it.

1030
01:15:25,570 --> 01:15:26,230
You have a person.

1031
01:15:28,270 --> 01:15:28,630
All right.

1032
01:15:29,050 --> 01:15:29,570
All right.

1033
01:15:29,670 --> 01:15:30,630
All right.

1034
01:15:31,210 --> 01:15:31,590
Someone.

1035
01:15:32,170 --> 01:15:35,130
Someone make a motion to adjourn.

1036
01:15:35,730 --> 01:15:36,210
Second.

1037
01:15:36,870 --> 01:15:37,490
All the roll, please.

1038
01:15:39,370 --> 01:15:40,030
What can I remember?

1039
01:15:40,110 --> 01:15:40,710
The towel wise.

1040
01:15:40,710 --> 01:15:41,590
Go for Bailey Blair.

1041
01:15:41,730 --> 01:15:42,330
Butler, or yourself.

1042
01:15:42,750 --> 01:15:43,330
Still box.

1043
01:15:43,830 --> 01:15:44,550
I'll miss you.

1044
01:15:45,650 --> 01:15:47,130
I think the topic problem.

1045
01:15:47,290 --> 01:15:47,730
Yeah, no.

1046
01:15:48,210 --> 01:15:48,730
It's very nice.