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Bonsoir tout le monde. À cette rencontre publique, le 5 septembre 2023, on va faire l'adoption

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de la gendarme, s'il vous plaît. J'ai besoin d'un proposage, adoption of the agenda.

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Donc, Luc Thiverge et Maureen Rice.

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Merci.

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Oui, Levoit, s'il vous plaît, Maureen Rice?

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Yes. Maureen McAvoy. Luc Thiverge? Oui.

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Louis Angus? Oui.

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Et je les revends. Merci.

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Là avant qu'on commence la période de questions, on va faire une présentation du concept,

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du parc exercice multi-générationnel au 4-5.

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Donc, avant que l'on commence la question,

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nous aimerions faire une présentation

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du concept de l'exercice multi-générationnel

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au 4-5.

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Donc, sur la table,

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vous verrez des pictures

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qui vont être démontrées

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et des explications

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de Beau-Sandra et Marie McAvoy

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pour votre information.

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Donc, c'est ça. Sur l'écran, vous allez voir des photos et puis avoir des informations

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données par Mme Martineau et Mme Maureen McEvoy sur le projet.

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En 2021,

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la municipalité a déposé une demande de subvention pour le prétinisteur de l'enseignement supérieur pour une subvention pour les parcs.

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Donc c'était un parc déverti, c'était au 400 pour 100 points.

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Donc en 2021, la municipalité s'est vue accordée une subvention de 75 000 $ pour le projet.

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En mai 2003, on a réussi à compléter le montage du dossier, donc on a signé l'entente pour le protocole de la subvention.

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Et puis, en mai de 2023, nous avons obtenu des procédures qui permettent de faire un call pour la submission.

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Est-ce que je peux juste interroger un petit peu? On a eu une bonification aussi, hein?

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Ok.

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Ok.

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Donc l'automne dernier aussi on a réalisé un sondage sur les besoins de la municipalité

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donc les ordres de jeu, les parcs ont sorti là je pense c'était dans l'université.

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Absolument.

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People were really, when we did the survey, the online and on paper survey of interests

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dans la récréation et la culture.

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Les gens sont très intéressés

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dans les facilities de récréation

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pour les enfants.

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En juin 2023,

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depuis du mois,

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on a adopté les critères

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aux fondérations pour les autres.

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On ne s'est pas basés sur le prix.

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On s'est basés sur les critères

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de qualité pour réévaluer

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les autres qu'on était pour votre mois.

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Oui, donc en juin, nous avons passé l'évaluation de l'évaluation des critères et nous avons parlé de comment les propositions seraient évaluées et c'était en qualité.

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Plus que le prix.

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Oui, plus que le prix. Absolument.

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Il n'y avait pas de preuves.

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Il n'y avait pas de preuves.

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En juin 2023, Monsieur Bissière communiquait avec nous, on a eu des ordres bonifiés à la subvention.

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Au départ, on avait une subvention de 75 000. Maintenant, la subvention est 93 750 $.

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Oui, donc, en juin, le MLA, Monsieur Bissière, nous a dit que le grant que nous espérons

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de recevoir pour 75 000, a été augmenté à 94 000.

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93,750.

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93,750.

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Donc, en avril, on a reçu 4 projets de parcs divertisques qu'on appelle multigénérationnel.

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On a procédé à l'analyse des soumissions et Ichmar et Gréati de Jean-Beth qui est à l'écran à remporter l'analyse du mal de Puy.

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Donc je peux montrer quelques photos.

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Oui, il y avait 4 soumissions et c'est appelé Jean-Bétte qui a mis en place ce proposement

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qui a mis en place les critères.

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Ok, on va continuer.

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Donc là, j'ouvre la première période de questions.

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So first question period is open now.

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Y'a-tu des questions?

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Mme Kitty a élevé sa maille avant.

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Quand on en voit au casino que ça va être environ?

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C'est dans le champ.

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Ça ne va pas dans le bois, là.

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De base, là, c'est le parc.

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Oui, où est-ce que c'est plus là?

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Où est-ce que le monde peut aller faire le technique?

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Oui.

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M. Legault?

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Je voulais savoir, le bout du chemin est-ce que vous voulez faire de Bruxelles,

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avec la maître, le bout du chemin, ou pas cette année?

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McDonald's.

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Vous voulez dire, l'assaltage?

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Oui, s'il vous plaît.

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Là, actuellement, on atteint sur le plan de drainage MTQ, c'est pas ça que ça soit bon.

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Là, parce que c'est une reconstruction au chemin et que ça prend un plan d'ingénieur pour la salle.

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L'MTQ, c'est millier de dents et ça prend un plan de drainage.

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Donc là, on atteint un plan de drainage MTQ pour annexer avec des documents du plan d'ingénieur pour faire la job.

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Parce qu'on peut pas juste prendre l'eau de la côte et la donper sur le highway.

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Donc là, c'est ça qui retarde le projet.

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Probablement, c'est pour cette année.

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On espère l'année prochaine?

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Oui, puis là, il y a des programmes de pension qui ont sorti,

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il a prêt pour la semaine, il a pu appliquer avant la fin septembre.

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Donc avec les coûts estimés de l'ingénieur, on va pouvoir déposer

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pour essayer d'avoir plus d'argent possible pour faire les travaux.

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Ça, c'est un côté-là, c'est déjà fait.

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Le plan d'ingénieur préliminaire est fait.

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L'institivité préliminaire est fait.

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Là, c'est vraiment le plan de drainage qui est eu là-dessus.

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qui branle, c'est ça qui prend le chemin.

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Nous autres, on aurait besoin de faire ça il y a deux ans,

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mais là, depuis qu'il faut faire ce temps de vénage, là...

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Mais le vénage, c'est quoi, l'eau du chemin?

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Ça ne faut pas oublier l'eau.

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Parce qu'on ne peut pas juste adomber ce chemin,

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il y a des scènes de vénage en sens en sens,

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mais il faut raccorder ça à ça.

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Il faut trouver une trace pour envoyer l'eau

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pour qu'elle se ramasse le chemin.

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C'est pas compliqué le même temps pour toi, hein?

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Non.

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Mais c'est ça qui fait un mystère,

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c'est une des impôts qu'il ne peut pas faire.

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Do you guys say that in English?

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Oh yeah.

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John's question was about paving.

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We're going to do one McDonald's road

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from the hotel in about a kilometer.

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When we started into that project

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we wanted to get it done fairly quick.

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we had to get an engineer plan for the asphalt

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and because we're reviewing the road

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for reconstruction, we had to get an engineer plan.

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That's fine, that's okay.

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Now they have to use involved

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et ils devraient s'occuper de l'adrénalité.

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Donc avant d'avoir l'autorisation pour faire le travail,

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nous devrions avoir l'adrénalité de l'appréciation de l'NTQ avec l'adrénalité.

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C'est ce que c'est pour ça.

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Vous le payez pour?

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Non.

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Bien, oui, avec le grand.

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C'est la moitié qu'on va avoir avec le grand.

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Mais c'est là que l'on va aller sur ce projet.

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Je veux dire, avec toutes les conditions de notre paiement ici, pourquoi c'est payé?

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Il y a beaucoup d'eau dans cette région,

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beaucoup de trafic,

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donc nous espérons qu'il y ait un problème dans la ville,

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mais encore, il va y avoir une reconstruction.

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Nous n'avons pas juste de payer sur le sol, mais nous avons besoin d'un plan d'ingénieur et d'un plan d'adrénation.

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Nous sommes maintenant à MTQ.

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Je me suis informé que le majeur de chemins a été adopté en 2021.

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La question vient de M.André Dubois.

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Excuse-moi.

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Allez-y.

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Oui.

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Le plan de chemins a été adopté en 2021.

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Et ça a délaié tout le monde pour la limite de temps ou quelque chose à l'endemain de cette année.

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Mais ils ont demandé une extension d'une année.

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Et nous ne l'avons pas entendu.

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Alors, maintenant, qu'est-ce que nous nous implementons ?

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Le plan de l'usage de 1993 ?

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Oui.

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Tout

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l'ozone, tout l'usage, toutes les activités sont de 1993.

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Maintenant ?

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Maintenant.

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Il y a beaucoup de choses qui n'appliquent pas maintenant. Certaines choses.

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Et ça a dû être réveillé et correcté et porté à la standard d'aujourd'hui.

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c'est-à-dire, c'est...

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Je n'ai pas le droit de le dire.

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N'y a-t-il quelqu'un ?

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Le même papier ?

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Ne le reades pas.

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Ne le reades pas ?

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Non.

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Je n'ai pas le droit de le dire.

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C'est par Gilbert White Duck.

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Donc, vous savez, j'ai regardé les deux histoires, et en fait, l'ensemble du papier,

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mais ça a sorti dans cette désignation du Gatineau-River.

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C'est-à-dire que, si vous regardez sur notre nouveau plan de land,

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pas seulement sur le Gatineau-River,

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mais il y a, je pense, huit zones qui ont tout à faire avec la récréation.

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Vous faites le fait que la rivière de Gatton et tout le land de gouvernement

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sont tous designés comme récréation.

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Nos zones de conservation ont été complétées complètement pour la récréation,

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récréation, récréation.

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Je pense que la chose fondamentale est l'environnement maintenant,

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comme on peut le dire.

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So my question is being that you're implementing 93 aspects to islands on the river and conservation

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areas that are bound to be or eventually going to be retro forestry that if you push back

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on certain bylaws should you not respect the environment a little more than having recreation

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everywhere.

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Oui, nous avons notre Chémo, vous pouvez le dire, le Chémo 93, mais il y a des lois québécoises qui s'appliquent.

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Bon exemple, ceptics. Le quidre à vendre.

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On ne peut pas aller voir ce qu'il y a dans notre bilan maintenant parce que la loi a changé depuis.

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Il y a certaines choses.

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Pardonne-moi.

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Est-ce que vous pouvez construire les îles maintenant?

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C'est dans le processus de trouver outures.

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Nous avons des informations parce que, comme vous le savez, beaucoup de l'île a été achetée.

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Et maintenant, s'ils vont commencer les constructions, ils vont falloir faire la même taxe base que les résidents de Mainland.

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Maintenant, en tant que septique et tout ça, tout ça doit être regardé.

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nous ne connaissons pas tout, c'est tout nouveau à nous.

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Donc, notre inspecteur a de l'aider,

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à trouver exactement ce qu'est la municipalité

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et ce que les propriétaires doivent faire.

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Si ils ont acheté une île juste pour protéger les gens,

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il n'y aura pas d'activité.

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Ils vont être payés des taxes sur les propriétaires,

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mais il n'y aura pas de services.

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que ce soit le récord de la rivière.

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Le point que ce jeune homme est essayant de faire

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est que le tout bleu de Gatton du River

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et le BRC de la Valle de Gatton

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sont désignés à l'aigre de Flieff

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ou le récord de Flieff.

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Le tout bleu de Gatton du River

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est désigné.

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As a recreation area, there's intensity there that could be overwhelming if it's not conducted properly.

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And as far as our area, we missed the boat on that, the municipality, and letting it go into private hands.

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I can understand the mainland, but the water should have been, and so it was okay for 100 years

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still hide you decide to sell the land the way it was so why would it not be okay

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the way it was for a hundred years for the next hundred years of leaving that

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part of the river you know unexploited because don't forget the

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Gatineau's man-made if it wasn't man-made it wouldn't be the boats and the

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activity on that water that it is today you are correct on that one that's for

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sure. But the thing is, is that what you said a while ago, Agro-Flevelle, whatever you

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want to call it. And then, and the other one is what?

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Recro-Flevelle.

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So there's, I'll be honest with you, I've not heard those words up the line. Not once.

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Well, I have the, I was set by the urban planner back in August 2021. And it's right

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here and this is the one they adopted and it says agrofleur I can't even say the

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word yeah so this is the one that's adopted but okay maybe it was adopted

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but now that like you said Haido decided to sell all those islands that

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It doesn't necessarily mean they're going to stay recreation.

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If somebody wants to build a house on bigger islands,

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I can't, well, the activities might stay the same, but the zone may change.

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I don't know.

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Yeah, I know, but if you read what the activities are possible on being zoned,

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either one the activities are well I have to I have to say one thing when

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hydro owned them there wasn't a lot of attention brought to how the zoning of

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those islands were what the activities were because they all belong to hydro

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and even even on on the river's edge on mainland there's a certain amount of

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hydro at when they own that part. But there was no, there wasn't a lot of

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attention put towards well that island's recreation and that one is this or that

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way there was none of that. It was all it all along the hydro so nobody paid

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attention to it. Well yeah there was there was a lot of people using hydro

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But Haidu didn't monitor their islands either, so, you know, you know yourself, St. Mike's used to send the students as a good deed.

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They used to go by canoe and everything and clean up all those islands in the fall before the winter came, and they still do it.

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well you know these extra activities are potentially going to happen I mean we're

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having a hard time right now with with fire and rescue and it's costing us a

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bloody fortune so we start putting people on islands and that aspect of the

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potential of this you know something over there we don't have the

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capability of getting there and so why would we put that restraint where it's

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going to cost the taxpayer a lot more money to to to control these extra

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activities in areas that we have not been yet and we're having a struggle

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right now I don't I disagree a little bit because our fire department have

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doing a lot of practices and you know they've been going sometimes they get

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calls there's a fire on an island we have the boat we have the personnel they've

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been training for it and they go and they check it out so I wouldn't I disagree

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when you say we don't have that kind of resource we do the thing is is that if

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people are going to start building on islands it's not any different than

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building 20 kilometers down Fieldville Road. You take a fire truck, yeah, they

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have the equipment, they have the generators, they have the pumps, they have

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everything. And a boat and plus a river to draw water from. So I support the

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fire department and they, you know, they train for it all the time, as well as

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It's all the other training they have.

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Can I say something, Carol, about the mine?

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The mine claims, all in the same topic

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that he's talking about, the conservation area?

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Yeah, you could, yeah.

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We got a much bigger problem coming to Lowell again,

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like maybe a one or two buildings on the river.

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I don't know if you know, Andre,

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but there's mining claims that have been staking low.

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And we were looking, we were getting ready,

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we passed bylaws, the MRC's working very hard

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to try to put a stop to some of this stuff.

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but the entire manatee area of the Trout Lake,

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a beaver loss area, all men's state towns

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are living by climate.

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Peace 12.

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Is started.

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Yeah.

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So we got a much bigger fight coming

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than worried about, I know what you're saying

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about the river, the fight that we have coming

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is gonna be so much bigger than that.

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I know the conservation area you're talking about,

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that's where that mine and plane is,

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where you fought so hard to protect

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the main post river road.

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Yeah.

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Because that mine goes in there,

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there's going to be no more men. There's 12 claims up there. Mr. O'Connor's got a cottage back there.

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He's going to be impacted with that too. Indeed. And so the fact is that it's been

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redesignated in the 21 plan gives it more adaptability to having that mind

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compared to what it was designated before where you had the potential in

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government supported it, the provincial government supported those

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usages of the forestry zone and the conservation area but your new plan is

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not supporting the government is not the new plan is not supporting the

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restrictions that it had of the 93 plan compared to the 21 plan. You understand

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what I'm saying? The problem with mining ongoing is that we can put all the

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bylaws that we want for conservation. That if the

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Conspection is successful. It doesn't matter what we're gonna have for bylaws once the government issues MNRF issues of

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Permit we can put the bylaws over blue in the face. We're not gonna be able to stop them great deals for the room

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They got a 21 22 million dollar losses try to stop a mine and company Canada right Canada graphic

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They tried to stop them. Well, yeah

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So I understand

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Read this, and you'll see mineral rights, it's everywhere.

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Every damn designation has extraction.

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Every five, every one, every usage has extraction.

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Agriculture, forestry, but you look at the 93 plan, you'll see a difference.

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Those extraction rights, so you're talking about Andre, that's for me and you, for John.

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A multi-billion dollar company that will be able to connect government for a permit, they're not going to care about the attraction rights, whether there's rights or not.

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Dreadbills from the Rouge found out about it.

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That's what I'm saying, 93% weren't as generous with the usages.

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I agree with you 100%, but what I'm saying is, the issue that we're going to have at hand, this doesn't mean that this mind is going.

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Potentially the mind is going, even if we would have kept restrictions and wouldn't have changed the ultimate outcome of that mind.

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After your opinion, I'll do respect.

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There's jurisprudence on this.

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It's what I'm trying to say.

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OK, so if it refers back to this article,

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are you willing to push back?

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And you were applauded for pushing back.

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So let's push back here.

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But we are.

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Let's back a couple of steps here.

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Something's telling you something,

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if you've got to step back for a year to comply

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with the MRC plan.

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Obviously, you're having issues.

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We spent $30,000 in 2015 with the first draft of the plan.

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How much have we spent now?

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24,000, I guess.

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That's almost 10 years.

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Well, we're almost at the $30,000.

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Pardon me?

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We're almost at the $30,000.

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We're very close to finishing the document.

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Keep in mind that the Shimo at the MRC level is enforced.

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So if there's a problem, that reverts, that gets the minimum of what is required.

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Can you not collaborate together as municipalities towards the MRC to say, hey, you know, you're one municipality pushing back on the head?

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We are pushing back.

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Andre, let me finish a minute.

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Just I want to interrupt a minute.

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The MRC has been working with the municipalities and we've identified a lot of areas where

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we want a temporary halt on any kind of mining.

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And it's all mapped out for all the municipalities for the whole MRC.

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And that's going to the ministry where actually it lets...

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No, it's Judi and she said, Sandra, it's Judi at 4 o'clock, you have to have

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the assessment policy so it's already gone because they gave the municipalities if

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they had any changes up to Thursday last week at four o'clock and if there was

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nothing that came in they were sending the map with our bylaw and MRC bylaw

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and everything it was going to the ministry. We sent in what we felt needed

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to be covered as well as all the other municipalities up the line so we're

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fighting for it. We don't want the mining to start. We want temporary because we

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try to protect a lot of our lakes, waterways, wherever there's cottagers,

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residential, all that stuff, the urban area. Well that's another thing too.

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They're identifying wetlands. They want the municipalities to identify wetlands,

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but it's not up to us to identify them.

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They're going, what the MRC are doing,

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they're getting subsidies from the government

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to hire an expert, an expertise to go on all the territory

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of the MRC to identify the wetlands.

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Because if you go,

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at Rava des Agat, their maps are not accurate

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because they're taking maps that are not even recent.

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And they're identifying some wetlands

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that some have dried up, you know, it's not accurate, so that's why they want to hire

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the expertise with the money from the government.

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Now they may need to do it twice, but see, even then they're going to identify all the

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wetlands, that's one thing.

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Then even on Crownland, so then you have these miners that come in and all the effort

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you went through and the money that was spent to identify the wetlands then you've got a mining

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company to size off this is where we're going to work this is where the graphite is this is where

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we're going to dig I understand that mayor so you look at this plan again and it says welcome to

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the wild wealth we don't give a shit about the environment this is what this plan says

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A new 90 or 2021 land use agreement plan says, let's go, who gives a shit about water or

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environment?

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You know, that's what that says to me.

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And if you read this very 600 page document, you will see that, yeah, they say one thing,

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but they obviously will do another thing compared to what we were in 93.

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This is obviously a money maker. Yeah, I understand that but I'm sure we can compensate somewhere

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that's to infuse money into our municipality other than destroying the environment.

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Point taken. I'm sorry, Mr. O'Connor.

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Did the install ever think of blinds and blinding rights, especially around lakes like the Manitou

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Lake, the Coat Lake up in Manassas, have you ever thought about doing that?

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No.

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There are some property owners that already did.

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If you have the mining rights to a certain partial, they can have mine there, unless you

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want them to.

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But you never even thought of doing that?

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It wasn't brought up as an alternative.

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I can tell you more on our side, we're like the gang around Tribal Inc.

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We're organizing to buy whatever is left.

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How much has gone already?

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But the thing is, it's fun to interject a little bit.

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The municipality cannot buy mining rights on a private property.

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They don't own it. It has to be the property owner.

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No, but I mean Ms. Palladine is not going to go around buying mining rights on everybody's property.

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Carol, big companies are coming in and buying mineral rights on private property.

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Yeah.

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The municipality could have bought mineral rights on those properties. Most of it is government. It's the Koran.

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That's what that 12 claims are.

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I don't know why you couldn't have thought ahead of that a little bit, anyway.

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That's just one question. Second question, did we have, when the hydro was selling all these islands and

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partial of the land beside the river, did we ever think about getting involved in that?

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Did you discuss it?

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We did purchase three lots around the municipal dock.

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Around the municipal dock?

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And along, you know where the old dock used to be?

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Yeah.

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Right up there, all that area too.

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We did talk about buying more than that though.

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Yeah.

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No, no.

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We talked about buying the island.

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Yeah.

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There was some people...

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We're on the table at the time. We couldn't we couldn't come to consensus, but especially the last

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Decide the knockup. Yeah, we're working on it. Yeah, we're working on it. It's a future plan for now.

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I can't. Well, no, we committed. We committed to we passed a resolution for the amount that they

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were asking for and everything. It's just that the money has not changed hands because it's all

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there and they are all agreement because previous administration tried to buy that

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previous install it by the by those back section and they wouldn't sell it for

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nothing well they did offered one one little small section or was about an

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acre and a half or half a million dollars no we got a promise to purchase

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yeah that's how far but we have three lots three lots of total of twenty five

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$25,000.

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Three lots in total for $25,000. So it's no, but that's what we got it for.

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Okay, going back to the picture you had up here, and that'll be my last question. Why are you doing that?

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Why not in the core of the village?

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We have another plan on, we haven't, I'm sorry. Yeah.

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Why wouldn't you build it in the core of the village where the schools are, where the arena

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is, where this hall is, where all the ball fields are?

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Why would you go to the top of the hill?

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There's no locals that are going to go up there.

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That's going to be people that would drive and fly on the road.

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And that's the end of my question.

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Pretty answered.

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Well, it was the best area because the municipality owns it.

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Ms. Palladine owns that property and we don't own the ball parks.

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The West Quebec does. We have a lease with them but West Quebec own it.

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We don't have any other property here in the village

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that the Ms. Palladine owns. That's the only property that the Ms. Palladine owns

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and it made sense to put that type of park there.

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But we also are working on another project that we think is going to

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satisfy a lot of people.

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It's just that I'm not at the liberty to say what it is right now, but it's going to be in the village

441
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Yeah

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Well, when you people live in lowly like I'm gonna have to drive my kids there people from the field

443
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I'm gonna flip it around where do you propose we build this one?

444
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Well, where we don't own the last

445
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Well, we don't have first room to put it, and Western Quebec wants the ball field.

446
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We can put it in the park, and the people won't be having it, you know where to park.

447
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You can make a deal with West Quebec for a lease of 100 years.

448
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We have a lease with them, but they use the ball field to play football.

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So we can't do what we want to do.

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There's a section across, off the ball field on that side.

451
00:33:03,140 --> 00:33:05,560
Big enough, but any allow over there.

452
00:33:06,540 --> 00:33:13,300
Anyway, it's, we have future plans, and like I said, we're not at Liberty to talk about it right now

453
00:33:13,300 --> 00:33:23,800
because it's in the process of being created and also to build a request for subsidies.

454
00:33:25,060 --> 00:33:33,020
Is that part of the grand scheme of Canada, 30% by 2030, this part?

455
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:41,280
No. It's the Ministry of Education.

456
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:49,020
They're the ones that committed 75,000 towards it.

457
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:56,860
And then in May this year it was brought up to 93,000.

458
00:33:57,620 --> 00:34:05,540
Okay, where all these mining rights are, you've heard of the 30x30 2030, 30% of Canada lands

459
00:34:05,540 --> 00:34:07,640
and waters are going to be designated as parks.

460
00:34:08,140 --> 00:34:14,460
I suggest to you, on the Manitou, there's 2,500 acres of government land.

461
00:34:15,390 --> 00:34:18,740
Let's get involved in that and designate that as a park.

462
00:34:19,820 --> 00:34:28,780
I agree and goes back to, I didn't get the full detail, this gentleman called me back and I was quite surprised, Gilbert.

463
00:34:30,460 --> 00:34:38,740
And anyway, personhood is not only a designation for rivers, but yes, 2,500 acres up there.

464
00:34:41,300 --> 00:34:48,900
The government has given money for parks, for ecological reserves, all that type of stuff.

465
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:52,580
And I think that would be our counter.

466
00:34:53,140 --> 00:35:00,460
Not that I'm saying it would stop the mining, but it may slow it down to over and suck it all up.

467
00:35:04,490 --> 00:35:09,230
Any government land we should be able to, in our municipality, designate it as a park.

468
00:35:10,110 --> 00:35:18,170
Now that the pressure of mining is on us, you got to, as this article says, push back.

469
00:35:20,130 --> 00:35:22,350
I've taken note of that. I'm going to find out.

470
00:35:23,590 --> 00:35:28,250
But yeah, see if it's at all possible or how it works.

471
00:35:29,930 --> 00:35:31,190
Yes, Mr. Hickey.

472
00:35:31,750 --> 00:35:34,210
Yeah. This part, Mr. Moonville.

473
00:35:34,210 --> 00:35:37,550
Well, when that's first started, I thought it was supposed to play structure for kids.

474
00:35:37,830 --> 00:35:41,850
That's not a play structure for kids. That's a part to do exercise in.

475
00:35:41,970 --> 00:35:47,710
It's multi-generational. It's not just for adults, it's for children, it's kids as well.

476
00:35:47,770 --> 00:35:49,510
Well, I don't see any play structures in those pictures.

477
00:35:51,780 --> 00:35:52,580
Where's the play structures?

478
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:58,100
Well, there's exercise, whatever. Where's the loatafile?

479
00:35:58,420 --> 00:36:00,700
The monkey bars.

480
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:02,380
The climbing.

481
00:36:27,820 --> 00:36:31,620
I mean Mr. Hickey, why don't you write a note to the office?

482
00:36:31,620 --> 00:36:36,340
I'm not writing notes, I'm just telling you what's going on, why don't you just take a look outside

483
00:36:36,340 --> 00:36:38,700
and you can see there's no sound under anything.

484
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:43,220
Okay, are there any other, I'm sorry, are there any other questions?

485
00:36:43,420 --> 00:36:45,380
I only took some initiatives, started to cut grass.

486
00:36:46,420 --> 00:36:48,860
Are there any other questions? You have still to question.

487
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:50,740
I have another question about the hydro.

488
00:36:51,380 --> 00:36:52,220
I'm sorry, the what?

489
00:36:52,700 --> 00:36:56,180
About the hydro in Quebec, about buying all this property out.

490
00:36:57,060 --> 00:37:02,700
Honey, when I was taking my property out on the farm up there, I wanted to buy some land

491
00:37:02,700 --> 00:37:03,500
from Piper, Quebec.

492
00:37:03,780 --> 00:37:07,740
They said, no, we can't sell that because it's only been sold for flooding.

493
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:14,140
And I went down to Hull and I found a paper that says that it can't be sold as recreational

494
00:37:14,140 --> 00:37:14,680
use.

495
00:37:15,020 --> 00:37:16,440
It can only be sold for flooding.

496
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:21,180
If they put the water higher and put the dam higher, they don't have to buy that land.

497
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:23,120
They can put the water up over the top.

498
00:37:24,780 --> 00:37:31,260
So if you're buying property, you better get a good notary to check into all of that because you're going to get into trouble.

499
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:35,640
And these people that already bought, there's something going on there because they never checked nothing.

500
00:37:36,300 --> 00:37:40,800
So I'll tell you what it is, boy. They sold the land without legal warrant.

501
00:37:41,900 --> 00:37:46,800
So that means, you know what that means, without legal warrant.

502
00:37:48,380 --> 00:37:52,700
So if you get precious for, well, we bought the land, so we can't build on it.

503
00:37:52,780 --> 00:37:56,880
Well, you'll go back and say, I go solar to you without legal warrant.

504
00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:59,340
So they have no argument on anything.

505
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:02,220
And they have no business selling in the first place.

506
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:04,820
That's not on us. That's not on us. That's on Hydro.

507
00:38:04,820 --> 00:38:05,980
I know it's not on you guys.

508
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:08,580
But it's on you guys that people are going to start buying it,

509
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:09,900
or you should tell them, say no.

510
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:11,920
That land, you're not supposed to be buying it.

511
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:12,920
And this valley's not in business.

512
00:38:13,100 --> 00:38:13,980
They'll float it and run it around.

513
00:38:14,020 --> 00:38:14,980
We can't. We can't.

514
00:38:14,980 --> 00:38:22,480
It seems to tell them everything else, so when they come to get a permit, if it's a whole other story.

515
00:38:22,540 --> 00:38:23,460
That's another story.

516
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:25,800
Yeah, if they come to get a permit.

517
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:26,720
No, that's a whole other story.

518
00:38:27,700 --> 00:38:30,680
Okay, are there any other questions?

519
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:32,000
Is there any other questions?

520
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:33,800
No?

521
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:35,360
We'll go ahead.

522
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:48,320
Adoption du procès verbal du 7 août, adoption of the minutes for the public meeting on the 7th of August.

523
00:39:13,240 --> 00:39:20,020
So the bills we paid for the month of August 2023, an amount of $28.45, and so the bills

524
00:39:20,020 --> 00:39:23,720
$266,200 and $8.45.

525
00:39:24,620 --> 00:39:26,960
She was one of the third proposed.

526
00:39:27,340 --> 00:39:27,800
How second?

527
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:29,480
Maureen McAvoy.

528
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:31,340
I pay.

529
00:39:33,720 --> 00:39:35,460
Autosization of signatures.

530
00:39:36,540 --> 00:39:37,480
Solution technical.

531
00:39:38,700 --> 00:39:39,220
I'm sorry.

532
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:40,660
Go back.

533
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:41,720
Vote.

534
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:47,140
OK, we'll go back to adoption of the minutes.

535
00:39:47,140 --> 00:39:49,980
Before the vote, it is presumed to be adopted by everyone.

536
00:39:50,300 --> 00:39:50,600
Okay.

537
00:39:51,780 --> 00:39:56,400
With the administration, the bills are paid bills.

538
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:58,480
I am saying...

539
00:39:58,480 --> 00:39:59,640
Maureen.

540
00:40:00,140 --> 00:40:00,740
Yes.

541
00:40:01,620 --> 00:40:03,060
The two Maureen's have said yes.

542
00:40:03,300 --> 00:40:03,400
Yes.

543
00:40:04,900 --> 00:40:05,800
Lee Angus.

544
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:06,060
No.

545
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:09,460
And then Justin Robes is absent.

546
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:14,000
This is the paid bills.

547
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:22,480
So, the telephone signal authorization, signature authorization for telephone solution.

548
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:33,160
So, it's for a new system, MDL Telecom, which has submitted an offer.

549
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:37,980
And then it costs us $210 plus tax per month.

550
00:40:37,980 --> 00:40:44,960
So it is for a MDL Telecom solution or telephone system.

551
00:40:45,460 --> 00:40:52,140
They gave their offer and was the best price for $210 plus tax per month

552
00:40:52,140 --> 00:40:56,760
for both the municipal office, heritage hall and the library.

553
00:40:57,600 --> 00:40:59,800
I'm going to start.

554
00:41:00,980 --> 00:41:05,740
So, I was a robot and I'm a little old.

555
00:41:08,020 --> 00:41:08,780
Thank you.

556
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:11,340
Do you like my voice?

557
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:12,360
My name is Michael Boyd.

558
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:13,460
I'm a little old.

559
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:13,700
Yes.

560
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:15,100
Liengis.

561
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:15,900
Yes.

562
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:17,300
And I'm a robot.

563
00:41:18,140 --> 00:41:19,200
Thank you.

564
00:41:20,460 --> 00:41:23,060
Contribution, walk, walk, walk.

565
00:41:23,060 --> 00:41:31,240
So contribution for kidney, has to do with a walk for kidney, and men are walking.

566
00:41:32,060 --> 00:41:35,680
So we're giving a contribution of $100.

567
00:41:36,620 --> 00:41:38,340
We're giving a contribution of $100.

568
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:40,420
So I need a proposal.

569
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:04,020
I think we're doing great.

570
00:42:07,260 --> 00:42:07,840
We're doing great.

571
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:07,900
I'm going to say Lila.

572
00:42:07,900 --> 00:42:08,200
We're going to be looking at one of our

573
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:13,800
filaments, signalization, camionette, F-250, 2023,

574
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:14,480
très beau public.

575
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:20,340
So it is for a signal scroll bar for the F-250, 2023,

576
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:22,180
a public works truck.

577
00:42:23,260 --> 00:42:24,420
In the amount of?

578
00:42:24,620 --> 00:42:26,420
That includes a backpack and plasters?

579
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:27,040
Yes.

580
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:29,660
So it's in the amount of?

581
00:42:30,100 --> 00:42:33,400
Le montant de 2,940 et 50 plus tax.

582
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:42,360
Then, we authorize a tax refund of $3,088 on a period of five years.

583
00:42:42,860 --> 00:42:47,520
So it is $2,940.50 plus tax.

584
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:58,000
And we are authorizing a loan from the Working Fund for $3,088.

585
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:11,300
Keep in mind that the 2,940 plus tax is more than that, but we get reimbursed the GST and 50% of the PST.

586
00:43:11,300 --> 00:43:13,100
So that's it.

587
00:43:13,340 --> 00:43:16,740
The mountain is higher than that with the tax,

588
00:43:17,060 --> 00:43:18,900
but because the muspentis is being reimbursed,

589
00:43:25,860 --> 00:43:29,240
TVQ, TPS, 50% of TVQ.

590
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:29,620
That's it.

591
00:43:30,700 --> 00:43:31,520
Thank you.

592
00:43:31,720 --> 00:43:32,000
Thank you.

593
00:43:32,060 --> 00:43:32,180
Thank you very much.

594
00:43:37,340 --> 00:43:48,260
Justine and Maureen Rice, so the vote is for Maureen Rice, Maureen McAvoy, the other one is Lee Angus, Justine Rabin.

595
00:43:49,540 --> 00:43:58,380
Then we arrive in the middle of environmental hygiene, there's nothing on the agenda.

596
00:43:59,820 --> 00:44:02,140
Urban planning either.

597
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:09,480
We go to Loise-Couture-Communications or Recreation Culture and Communication.

598
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:23,460
So this is for APELDOF 2023 701 002, Conception, Furniture, Installation, and Terrain,

599
00:44:23,460 --> 00:44:34,080
exercices multigenerational. So, call for tender 2023-701-02, design supply and installation

600
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:45,540
of a multi-generational exercise park. So, as it was explained earlier, there were four

601
00:44:45,540 --> 00:44:50,280
bids that came in. There were two that had the same

602
00:44:51,020 --> 00:44:55,600
pointing evaluation, but one of which had the best price. So

603
00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:59,860
the contract is with Iqypmar, Iqypmar, Iqypmar, and Iqypmar.

604
00:45:01,660 --> 00:45:08,320
Donc, c'est ça, comme il a été mentionné plus tôt, madame entre madame Martineau et madame

605
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:15,820
McAvoy, de la façon que ça procédait, parce que aussi ça a été, c'est important à dire

606
00:45:15,820 --> 00:45:23,940
que ça a été mis sur le S.A.A.O. Donc le système gouvernemental, on a eu quatre soumissionnaires,

607
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:32,180
deux de ces soumets, c'est à dire là, ils ont eu le même montant de pointage, mais il y en a un

608
00:45:32,180 --> 00:45:37,380
à particulier qui a tombé, il était moins cher que l'autre. Donc, les équipements récréatifs

609
00:45:37,380 --> 00:45:43,300
j'ai envie d'incorporer sont les gagnants du contrat. Donc, j'ai besoin d'un proposant.

610
00:45:44,980 --> 00:45:49,900
Justin Robin, Maureen McAvoy et le vote, Maureen Rice,

611
00:45:53,250 --> 00:45:57,250
Louis McAvoy, l'activerge,

612
00:45:58,370 --> 00:45:59,130
Lee Angus,

613
00:46:04,590 --> 00:46:07,270
et puis Justin Robin. Merci beaucoup.

614
00:46:08,750 --> 00:46:12,150
dans la deuxième période de questions.

615
00:46:12,590 --> 00:46:16,290
Second question period, if there are any.

616
00:46:26,070 --> 00:46:30,270
Yeah, you can go on the, pardon me.

617
00:46:32,930 --> 00:46:34,890
C'est la seule façon que tu vas voir ça.

618
00:46:35,070 --> 00:46:36,250
Oui, c'est terrible, tu sais.

619
00:46:36,430 --> 00:46:42,020
La communication maintenant avec les gens qui ne sont pas involvementés dans les computer

620
00:46:42,020 --> 00:46:46,620
et c'est vraiment difficile d'acheter et d'avoir de l'information maintenant.

621
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:50,140
Nous sommes très restrictés à l'AI.

622
00:46:51,580 --> 00:46:52,640
Je peux avoir quelque chose.

623
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:55,000
Excuse-moi, Mme Martineau.

624
00:46:55,780 --> 00:46:56,060
Question.

625
00:46:57,080 --> 00:47:02,060
Si les gens viennent de la bibliothèque, ils ont accès à des audits.

626
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:08,700
Si vous allez dans la bibliothèque, vous pouvez avoir l'accès à la site de la ministère

627
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:15,340
et voir toutes les demandes en bas.

628
00:47:19,780 --> 00:47:34,900
Pour tous les clé, vous pouvez aller sur le site, vous pouvez cliquer sur l'Académie pour voir qui

629
00:47:34,900 --> 00:47:44,400
s'investit, à quel âgeوا nous, ils le placent domestic, etc., et d'autres personnes tenu.

630
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:52,220
des résidents, des résidents autour des lacs, ils s'enregistrent pour protéger l'arrière.

631
00:47:52,440 --> 00:48:03,300
Il y a encore un manque d'information ou de transparence, parce que je l'ai entendu, mais je ne savais pas exactement où c'était.

632
00:48:33,300 --> 00:48:35,940
On peut faire des choses à la computer pour des informations,

633
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:40,860
ou plutôt que d'aller au public,

634
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:44,320
ce qui est parfois un burden pour des gens.

635
00:48:45,540 --> 00:48:48,540
Et donc, oui, informationaise, c'est l'inquiétisme.

636
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:53,060
Et c'est une très importante information

637
00:48:53,060 --> 00:48:54,760
que les gens devraient être conscients,

638
00:48:56,220 --> 00:49:00,580
plutôt que d'aller à la computer.

639
00:49:00,580 --> 00:49:05,040
Et je pense que les municipalités devraient être plus invitées dans l'information

640
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:11,460
plutôt que les municipalités d'affaires, comme les droits minéraux

641
00:49:11,460 --> 00:49:14,400
qui s'imposent sur notre municipalité.

642
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:18,340
Ce n'est pas imposer sur le Council, c'est imposer sur nous,

643
00:49:18,420 --> 00:49:22,620
que l'on a publié, en faisant un deal avec ce que cela intervient.

644
00:49:25,240 --> 00:49:30,640
Aujourd'hui, l'âge d'électronique, c'est...

645
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:32,960
André, j'ai aimé la computer tout le temps.

646
00:49:33,220 --> 00:49:35,620
Je l'ai only found out last week.

647
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:38,260
Et oui, c'est là.

648
00:49:40,100 --> 00:49:42,980
Donc oui, ce n'est pas très important d'avoir ça.

649
00:49:42,980 --> 00:49:43,160
Donc,

650
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:48,020
regarde ce qu'il y a dans l'Ontario.

651
00:49:49,060 --> 00:49:50,180
Il n'y a pas de problème.

652
00:50:20,180 --> 00:50:20,960
Mais on va faire ça.

653
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:22,420
$69 à la célébration.

654
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:24,580
Ce que je veux dire c'est que vous devez faire ça.

655
00:50:24,620 --> 00:50:25,720
Et puis, qu'est-ce que c'est la célébration ?

656
00:50:25,720 --> 00:50:27,000
$69 à la célébration.

657
00:50:27,100 --> 00:50:28,020
Et ils vont faire ça.

658
00:50:28,340 --> 00:50:29,300
Et non, non, non, hang on.

659
00:50:29,740 --> 00:50:30,240
Ils vont faire ça.

660
00:50:30,240 --> 00:50:31,920
Vous allez être allé à la célébration pour trois ans.

661
00:50:32,060 --> 00:50:33,280
Si vous n'avez pas besoin d'une prospection,

662
00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:34,800
après trois ans vous devez le donner.

663
00:50:35,420 --> 00:50:36,320
Donc, ce que nous allons faire,

664
00:50:36,780 --> 00:50:39,160
c'est que nous allons faire ça.

665
00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:39,960
On va faire ça.

666
00:50:40,140 --> 00:50:40,160
On va faire ça.

667
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:40,580
On va les coller après trois ans,

668
00:50:40,660 --> 00:50:41,080
mais c'est tout.

669
00:50:41,300 --> 00:50:42,540
Et on va avoir du mien.

670
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:44,220
Et ça va finalement nous donner...

671
00:50:44,220 --> 00:50:45,600
Parce que après trois ans,

672
00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:19,140
peut-être vous, peut-être Floyd, peut-être Mr. Dooso, John, vous avez beaucoup de land.

673
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:22,440
Nous devons tous s'en aller ensemble et nous devons prendre des clés sur nos propriétés,

674
00:51:22,500 --> 00:51:23,120
ce que nous devons faire.

675
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:26,360
Ce que nous faisons à la maison, le gang est en train d'organiser,

676
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:29,020
nous sommes organisés pour acheter tout ce qu'il y a, nous sommes trop tard pour ce genre.

677
00:51:29,500 --> 00:51:33,280
Mais nous allons essayer, avec le gang de Caz, de protéger aussi beaucoup de land que nous pouvons.

678
00:51:33,860 --> 00:51:38,160
Si il y a 25 de nous, maintenant nous pouvons protéger ces clés chaque 3 ans entre le gang et nous.

679
00:51:38,820 --> 00:51:40,100
C'est ça que nous allons garder la compagnie de la mine.

680
00:51:41,140 --> 00:51:43,600
L'Eau va seulement protéger le land pendant 3 ans et nous sommes prêts.

681
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:47,600
Comment pouvons-nous ne pas se trouver dans deux semaines ?

682
00:51:48,180 --> 00:51:49,500
Vous m'avez perdu, vous êtes complétant.

683
00:51:49,580 --> 00:51:49,960
Non, non.

684
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:52,240
C'est une autre question.

685
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:55,100
Si vous vous avez trouvé ça, ok, c'est bien.

686
00:51:55,580 --> 00:51:57,720
Ce que j'ai demandé, c'est que je me souviens,

687
00:51:57,860 --> 00:51:59,640
c'est que ça peut être maximum,

688
00:51:59,960 --> 00:52:00,520
mais il y a beaucoup d'abris.

689
00:52:00,780 --> 00:52:03,740
C'est 54,9.

690
00:52:04,340 --> 00:52:05,520
Je peux aller à ma computer,

691
00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:06,340
je vais y aller.

692
00:52:06,720 --> 00:52:09,560
Si vous êtes patient avec moi un second ?

693
00:52:11,610 --> 00:52:12,630
Oh, ok.

694
00:52:13,870 --> 00:52:14,350
Ok.

695
00:52:14,350 --> 00:52:16,570
Do you, uh, you...

696
00:52:16,570 --> 00:52:19,930
Is your email connected to... does the office have your email?

697
00:52:20,770 --> 00:52:23,090
Ok. Tomorrow...

698
00:52:23,090 --> 00:52:23,950
We'll send you the link.

699
00:52:32,210 --> 00:52:32,690
No,

700
00:52:35,170 --> 00:52:36,810
you can't. Not in the same name.

701
00:52:36,810 --> 00:52:39,570
Il faut que vous puissiez faire des prospèches, ou des prospèches.

702
00:52:40,990 --> 00:52:45,170
C'est comme ça que les jeux sur les lits que vous avez, avec Brian O'Connor et tout votre gang,

703
00:52:45,270 --> 00:52:49,150
nous avons tous besoin de nous enlever de quoi qu'on peut.

704
00:52:49,730 --> 00:52:52,690
Et votre place, et John's place, et Mr. Duesel's place.

705
00:52:52,970 --> 00:52:55,950
Mais c'est pour enlever ce qu'il y a.

706
00:52:56,270 --> 00:52:58,690
Il y a beaucoup de prospèches qui ont été faites.

707
00:52:59,070 --> 00:53:02,490
Je vais faire des raisons pour que la municipalité puisse enlever tout.

708
00:53:02,710 --> 00:53:03,590
Et ça ne nous donnera rien.

709
00:53:33,590 --> 00:53:34,850
c'est l'exact point que j'ai essayé de faire pour vous,

710
00:53:34,990 --> 00:53:36,590
que nous ne pouvons pas acheter toutes ces claims,

711
00:53:36,670 --> 00:53:37,210
parce que ce n'est pas possible.

712
00:53:37,850 --> 00:53:39,330
Il n'y a que 1 claim, probablement,

713
00:53:39,450 --> 00:53:41,210
250 hexagons, qui s'entendent

714
00:53:41,210 --> 00:53:42,250
d'une main à deux, en haut.

715
00:53:42,930 --> 00:53:45,210
Vous savez, chaque claim, chaque claim est...

716
00:53:45,210 --> 00:53:47,030
Si nous devions acheter toutes les claims en haut,

717
00:53:47,250 --> 00:53:48,930
après 3 ans, nous devions les donner,

718
00:53:49,250 --> 00:53:49,770
nous devions les perdre.

719
00:53:50,370 --> 00:53:52,290
Si quelqu'un d'autre s'est venu et achetait la claim,

720
00:53:52,450 --> 00:53:53,190
il n'y aurait qu'un drill.

721
00:53:53,790 --> 00:53:55,410
Oui, on va commencer à boire tout le monde.

722
00:53:55,530 --> 00:53:59,050
Il n'y aurait qu'un drill sur tout le parcel que vous avez dit.

723
00:53:59,050 --> 00:54:03,230
Mais ça ne serait qu'à prendre en compte le claim de Manitou Troutlake.

724
00:54:03,350 --> 00:54:04,690
Qu'est-ce qu'il y a à l'arrivée ?

725
00:54:04,690 --> 00:54:05,930
Qu'est-ce qu'il y a à l'arrivée ?

726
00:54:06,450 --> 00:54:10,650
Entre Manitou et Troutlake, il y a 12 claims.

727
00:54:10,970 --> 00:54:13,250
Chaque claim est à peu près...

728
00:54:14,650 --> 00:54:19,870
Je ne sais pas si c'est 50 m2 ou 59 m2.

729
00:54:20,150 --> 00:54:21,850
Je vais vous montrer le map.

730
00:54:21,970 --> 00:54:23,390
Je vais vous montrer le map.

731
00:54:23,390 --> 00:54:23,750
Oui.

732
00:54:24,170 --> 00:54:26,030
Mais après 3 ans, nous devons les donner.

733
00:54:26,030 --> 00:54:30,950
c'est pourquoi nous avons à organiser les ordres de l'Ordre, nous avons à organiser et nous avons à commencer à vendre des ordres de l'Ordre.

734
00:54:31,350 --> 00:54:35,270
Et donc, votre nom nous donne à un individuel ou à une organisation ?

735
00:54:35,270 --> 00:54:40,030
Nous en avons à la maison à savoir ce que nous allons faire. Je vais acheter comme je peux.

736
00:54:40,270 --> 00:54:43,470
Mon ami va acheter un peu. Christian, mon père va acheter un peu.

737
00:54:43,710 --> 00:54:44,570
Oui, il ne faut pas aller en train de vendre.

738
00:54:45,270 --> 00:54:49,090
Il ne faut pas aller en train de vendre. Il faut que l'un d'entre nous soit en train de vendre.

739
00:54:49,090 --> 00:54:50,430
Oui, il faut que l'un d'entre nous soit en train de vendre.

740
00:54:51,210 --> 00:54:53,490
Il y a 25 de nous maintenant, donc on peut protéger tout ce qu'il y a.

741
00:54:53,490 --> 00:54:56,570
pour quelques années, entre la gang et nous.

742
00:54:56,870 --> 00:54:58,150
On dirait que l'Elysium s'est déçue.

743
00:55:00,210 --> 00:55:01,730
Je ne veux pas que l'Elysium s'occupe de moi,

744
00:55:01,890 --> 00:55:04,550
même si c'est de lui, de lui, de lui, de lui.

745
00:55:05,210 --> 00:55:05,970
Je ne veux pas que l'Elysium s'occupe de moi,

746
00:55:06,110 --> 00:55:06,650
si on ne veut pas ça.

747
00:55:06,890 --> 00:55:07,590
C'est ce qui se passe.

748
00:55:08,030 --> 00:55:10,690
Nous n'avons pas réalisé la voiture.

749
00:55:10,930 --> 00:55:12,030
Wow, c'est une grande chose.

750
00:55:12,270 --> 00:55:13,770
Dieu, regarde ce qu'on fait dans la Terre.

751
00:55:14,190 --> 00:55:16,810
Tous les 70 ans, nous avons réalisé que la smoking,

752
00:55:17,050 --> 00:55:18,450
c'est une grande chose.

753
00:55:18,670 --> 00:55:20,830
Nous avons réalisé que, après tant de décennies,

754
00:55:21,130 --> 00:55:22,030
c'est une issue.

755
00:55:22,030 --> 00:55:29,590
Et donc, je pense que le point de vue est qu'une chose qui ressemble bien aujourd'hui

756
00:55:29,590 --> 00:55:32,470
va être la chute de 70 ans.

757
00:55:32,770 --> 00:55:36,830
C'est que ça tombe pour les espèces humaines qui réalisent qu'est-ce que j'ai fait.

758
00:55:38,290 --> 00:55:39,690
C'est comme ce plan.

759
00:55:41,390 --> 00:55:43,830
Je pense qu'il devrait être un acte plus pro-actif

760
00:55:43,830 --> 00:55:46,210
d'avoir donné une certaine information sur ça.

761
00:55:46,650 --> 00:55:47,710
Je ne sais pas...

762
00:56:23,890 --> 00:56:34,710
C'était Saint-Téraïs-le-Guet-Snow, que l'on s'occupe d'un propriétaire et qu'ils ne savaient pas pourquoi il était là.

763
00:56:35,790 --> 00:56:46,530
Pour le moment, la loi s'éteint clairement et c'est de la ministère qui dit que si il y a quelqu'un qui veut faire un nouveau prospectus d'une sorte ou d'avoir un propriétaire privé,

764
00:56:47,050 --> 00:56:54,670
il faut qu'il y ait 30 jours avant qu'il y ait un plan à faire. Il faut que l'on envoie la lettre à l'auteure de l'auteure. Il faut que l'on notifie la municipalité.

765
00:56:54,670 --> 00:57:03,150
Ce n'est rien comme ça. C'était fait en Sainte-Eraïs et ça a été une grande concernée.

766
00:57:03,150 --> 00:57:10,990
Ce qu'ils ont fait, c'est que l'inspecteur a fait une complète aux ministres et la compagnie de la mining.

767
00:57:11,650 --> 00:57:15,910
Ils n'avaient rien à faire mais ils ont dit qu'ils ne pouvaient pas aller là-bas.

768
00:57:16,790 --> 00:57:17,230
basicly

769
00:57:17,790 --> 00:57:20,030
unless you do this and it's in their

770
00:57:20,550 --> 00:57:23,570
law they have to follow the law the ministry's law

771
00:57:24,670 --> 00:57:26,170
some of them aren't doing that

772
00:57:26,170 --> 00:57:28,390
and that's why we try to tell people

773
00:57:28,390 --> 00:57:30,490
you know if you see strangers on your land

774
00:57:31,350 --> 00:57:32,710
find out who they are

775
00:57:32,710 --> 00:57:34,690
if they have anything to do with mining

776
00:57:35,470 --> 00:57:36,690
tell them to leave

777
00:57:36,690 --> 00:57:38,170
they have no right to be there

778
00:57:38,170 --> 00:57:39,810
you did not get anything in writing

779
00:57:39,810 --> 00:57:40,650
Quand j'ai trouvé ça, Matt,

780
00:57:41,630 --> 00:57:42,790
c'était le soir de la soirée.

781
00:57:42,810 --> 00:57:44,630
Je l'ai appelé, il était le 1er appel,

782
00:57:44,850 --> 00:57:46,070
le 2e appel c'était de votre voisin.

783
00:57:46,830 --> 00:57:47,950
Je l'ai appelé, j'ai dit,

784
00:57:48,110 --> 00:57:48,590
si vous avez besoin de l'alcool,

785
00:57:48,670 --> 00:57:49,710
vous allez y aller, ne laissez pas.

786
00:57:51,390 --> 00:57:52,370
Il était le 2e appel.

787
00:57:52,890 --> 00:57:53,230
C'est qui?

788
00:57:53,670 --> 00:57:54,410
Brian O'Connor.

789
00:57:54,550 --> 00:57:56,090
Je savais qu'il allait aller dans ce propriétaire,

790
00:57:56,090 --> 00:57:56,610
qu'il allait y aller.

791
00:57:57,890 --> 00:57:58,810
Oui, vous voyez,

792
00:57:59,510 --> 00:58:00,710
vous donnez un an de plus

793
00:58:00,710 --> 00:58:02,250
quand vous vous laissez couler la bouche,

794
00:58:02,430 --> 00:58:03,310
pour aller y aller.

795
00:58:03,690 --> 00:58:04,210
Et regardez,

796
00:58:04,430 --> 00:58:06,450
il y avait probablement des prospectus là-bas

797
00:58:06,450 --> 00:58:07,470
quand ils allaient couler la bouche.

798
00:58:30,430 --> 00:58:35,630
Oui, mais tu ne peux pas l'envoyer, c'est-à-dire que tu n'as pas besoin de la permission de l'adrôme pour y aller.

799
00:58:35,630 --> 00:58:36,970
C'est vrai ?

800
00:58:36,970 --> 00:58:37,310
Oui.

801
00:58:38,070 --> 00:58:40,550
Et c'est dans les mines de Québec ?

802
00:58:40,550 --> 00:58:43,310
Ils doivent notifier les propriétés et les propriétés de l'économie.

803
00:58:43,770 --> 00:58:47,450
30 jours avant, ils planent de mettre un pied sur ces propriétés.

804
00:58:48,110 --> 00:58:49,750
Si les propriétés et les propriétés de l'économie ne veulent pas,

805
00:58:49,890 --> 00:58:51,830
c'est pour l'autorisation.

806
00:58:52,250 --> 00:58:53,370
Mais vous ne pouvez pas arrêter l'endroit.

807
00:58:54,450 --> 00:58:56,750
Si ils trouvent les internautes et qu'ils ont un permis,

808
00:58:56,870 --> 00:58:57,730
c'est 100 % correct.

809
00:58:58,490 --> 00:58:58,930
Oui.

810
00:58:59,970 --> 00:59:00,930
C'est mon question.

811
00:59:01,130 --> 00:59:02,930
Pourquoi ne ne ne ne ne ne ne ne ne ne ne ne ne ne ne ne ne ne ne ne

812
00:59:05,410 --> 00:59:12,790
Le problème est que, en 3 ans, nous ne pouvons qu'enlever, nous ne pouvons qu'enlever les 3 ans, quelqu'un d'autre n'a qu'à vendre tous les plots de 3 ans.

813
00:59:14,250 --> 00:59:16,030
Ce qu'il y a après, c'est une graffite.

814
00:59:16,870 --> 00:59:20,990
C'est pourquoi nous avons besoin d'organiser le jeu, nous avons besoin de l'organiser, nous avons besoin de l'organiser, nous avons besoin de l'organiser.

815
00:59:22,030 --> 00:59:27,090
Vous savez, le M.R.C. est imposé sur les municipalités de ce plan.

816
00:59:28,070 --> 00:59:32,850
Pourquoi ne les municipalités ne sont pas tous ensemble et imposées sur le M.R.C.

817
00:59:33,630 --> 00:59:37,870
pour contrôler ces droits de mignes dans leurs langues?

818
00:59:39,510 --> 00:59:43,270
Les zones agricoles imposent la régulation.

819
00:59:43,410 --> 00:59:45,810
Je m'explique tout ce que le M.R.C.

820
00:59:46,390 --> 00:59:48,870
Vous dites MRC, mais c'est en fait la table de maires.

821
00:59:50,110 --> 00:59:57,270
Et tout le travail que l'on a fait pour essayer de mettre au moins une protection tempérale sur tout le land

822
00:59:57,270 --> 00:59:59,970
qui a été sélecté par chaque ministère.

823
01:00:01,040 --> 01:00:13,680
So that plan and map was sent to the ministry, actually this week I believe, to stop the minors

824
01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:19,240
from mining anything temporarily until we get to the next step, like when we're going to get

825
01:00:19,240 --> 01:00:24,060
more information as to what we're allowed to do, what we can't do, or what they're allowed

826
01:00:24,060 --> 01:00:29,040
to do and what they can't do and so on because there's a lot of factors like

827
01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:35,720
if you if you look at I don't know a section there's one MRC or municipality

828
01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:41,740
closer to Quebec I think it is but anyways they're fighting it because they

829
01:00:41,740 --> 01:00:45,240
don't want any mining going on on this particular mountain because that's their

830
01:00:45,240 --> 01:00:51,760
main source of water for the town down below. So that's it.

831
01:00:53,700 --> 01:01:00,640
They've got like giant posters around by the roads and there's an organization of, I think

832
01:01:00,640 --> 01:01:05,540
it looks like lake associations that have come together and it's, I can't remember what

833
01:01:08,700 --> 01:01:15,920
It's called protectionpetitnation.com, so they've got a fancy website, so they're, like, advocating

834
01:01:15,920 --> 01:01:22,960
and organizing it. But they're, because there's a lot of agricultural land there, too, of course,

835
01:01:23,180 --> 01:01:29,480
and it's recreational. But they're fighting the government of Quebec who sees an opportunity

836
01:01:29,480 --> 01:01:36,220
to make some money from these resources because everybody wants lithium because that's what's in there.

837
01:01:36,240 --> 01:01:40,060
It's not lithium, it's graphite, and they need that to make batteries.

838
01:01:40,760 --> 01:01:42,200
Well, there's lithium as well.

839
01:01:42,260 --> 01:01:45,080
Well, there's more graphite in our MRC than in the Netherlands.

840
01:01:45,360 --> 01:01:47,040
You could find a great dose of the rouge.

841
01:01:48,160 --> 01:01:50,360
I was wrong, it wasn't 22 million, it was 96 million.

842
01:01:50,780 --> 01:01:54,280
The town tried to stop counting the graphite, and they turned around with a slap loss

843
01:01:54,280 --> 01:01:55,480
which was 96 million dollars.

844
01:01:56,080 --> 01:02:00,080
some of the counselors got sued for slander the town got sued the town was

845
01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:04,540
reduced to making a deal with them and one of the quarries is no I don't know

846
01:02:04,540 --> 01:02:08,000
that they'll ever put a mind in there when you got a quarry over this this is

847
01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:12,480
what we're tending with and the lithium is all part of the Quebec Canada

848
01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:17,120
worldwide green plan and the Quebec government wants that they find lives

849
01:02:17,120 --> 01:02:19,440
in here there's nothing we can do I'm telling you they're gonna put a mind in

850
01:02:19,440 --> 01:02:22,500
there if they find lithium that's what the Quebec government wants so you

851
01:02:22,500 --> 01:02:29,560
know what this is telling me is that we have to look at our land and respect it

852
01:02:29,560 --> 01:02:35,280
more to what potential if we don't implement the correct zonage that we'll

853
01:02:35,280 --> 01:02:40,620
get stepped over no and everything else I'm gonna repeat myself here the zoning

854
01:02:40,620 --> 01:02:44,000
that we're gonna put in for mining is gonna have zero impact on whether a

855
01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:50,000
mine comes here or not because it has to be proposed whatever zoning we do is

856
01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:57,060
proposed to the provincial government before it's accepted so I mean to make

857
01:02:57,060 --> 01:03:03,740
them aware of something that we're not not for and against in a way to protect

858
01:03:03,740 --> 01:03:19,980
our our land we have to live with it they don't when they cut the bush the man

859
01:03:19,980 --> 01:03:22,120
But I'm just saying, the mines are the same thing.

860
01:03:22,980 --> 01:03:24,500
But you know what you're saying, exactly.

861
01:03:26,900 --> 01:03:28,420
I know what you're saying, but I feel you.

862
01:03:28,740 --> 01:03:30,300
We're limited where we can use it.

863
01:03:31,200 --> 01:03:34,440
Well, again, so this is proposed by the MRC,

864
01:03:34,720 --> 01:03:38,400
and you people have the pushback power to say,

865
01:03:38,680 --> 01:03:40,760
no, we don't like this particular zone,

866
01:03:40,880 --> 01:03:42,340
or we don't like this particular,

867
01:03:42,760 --> 01:03:45,200
what you're suggesting for us to adopt.

868
01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:53,080
So, yeah, I mean, we should be imposing on them, not them imposing on us.

869
01:03:53,720 --> 01:03:56,900
Because look at when we let them impose on us.

870
01:03:59,020 --> 01:04:02,620
When you say them and us?

871
01:04:02,960 --> 01:04:03,520
MRC.

872
01:04:04,280 --> 01:04:05,320
But you don't understand.

873
01:04:06,440 --> 01:04:08,920
MRC is only 1987, don't forget.

874
01:04:09,380 --> 01:04:11,420
They only came into existence recently.

875
01:04:11,880 --> 01:04:15,440
We used to be a municipality for what are we, 180 years now?

876
01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:22,840
anyway we got along without a regional government and so to let them impose their

877
01:04:22,840 --> 01:04:27,860
their thinking on us it is wrong as far as I'm concerned especially when there's

878
01:04:27,860 --> 01:04:32,600
17 municipalities and you mayors get together and I don't know what to

879
01:04:32,600 --> 01:04:40,680
discuss up there or whatever but are you telling me cattle as the 17

880
01:04:40,680 --> 01:04:46,300
them, mayors get together, you guys are coming up with these ideas? Is that what you're telling me?

881
01:04:46,440 --> 01:04:53,180
No, a lot of the so-called ideas you're talking about, they come from ministries. It could be

882
01:04:54,460 --> 01:05:00,760
environment, it could be all the ministries up the government, these will get all those places

883
01:05:01,420 --> 01:05:09,960
and they bring information to us and they let us know exactly what the information is about,

884
01:05:09,960 --> 01:05:16,360
if there's a new law out and then at the Quebec government like there's a

885
01:05:16,360 --> 01:05:19,240
few of them right now I'm not going to go into that because it opens a whole

886
01:05:19,240 --> 01:05:27,200
can of worms right now we'll get to so from that information that's where the

887
01:05:27,200 --> 01:05:32,340
mayors decide well okay we're going to support it or we're going to advance

888
01:05:32,340 --> 01:05:39,060
and make a bylaw and then from there the bylaws are filtered down to each

889
01:05:39,060 --> 01:05:42,000
municipalities, depending on the subject matter.

890
01:05:44,840 --> 01:05:48,640
I know you like to say it's

891
01:05:48,640 --> 01:05:53,360
always the MRC this and the MRC that. It doesn't work that way. They bring the

892
01:05:53,360 --> 01:05:58,740
information from the government departments to the mayors. There's a lot

893
01:05:58,740 --> 01:06:02,880
of laws, there's there's project laws that are being brought to our

894
01:06:02,880 --> 01:06:03,360
attention.

895
01:06:05,400 --> 01:06:12,760
Both Maureen McEvoy and myself are going to the the FQM in September

896
01:06:12,760 --> 01:06:18,600
which we're going to get more information for our municipality and all

897
01:06:18,600 --> 01:06:25,340
municipalities as you know as a rule and see how we implemented into certain

898
01:06:25,340 --> 01:06:31,080
laws how we implemented into our surroundings because every municipality

899
01:06:31,080 --> 01:06:39,720
is different. So there's some bylaws that may not be identical because of our topical

900
01:06:39,720 --> 01:06:42,520
viscose trap. Yes.

901
01:06:44,140 --> 01:06:47,040
You've been mining rights for how many years back?

902
01:06:48,440 --> 01:06:55,040
Well, there's some of them I verified at one point. I verified some of the claims that

903
01:06:55,040 --> 01:06:58,380
were registered back in 93.

904
01:07:00,960 --> 01:07:02,160
They were...

905
01:07:02,160 --> 01:07:08,420
Well, and even when they drilled the 2-in-12, that's what they were looking for was minerals.

906
01:07:09,280 --> 01:07:10,200
That was done.

907
01:07:11,160 --> 01:07:13,360
The helicopter was going around with the thing underneath it.

908
01:07:13,360 --> 01:07:13,880
Yeah.

909
01:07:15,100 --> 01:07:23,700
And then the ones that Stein was just describing, the 12 claims between Venosta and basically

910
01:07:24,560 --> 01:07:25,160
Martindale.

911
01:07:27,520 --> 01:07:33,500
The majority were registered just in June this year. I think it was the 14th of June.

912
01:07:33,960 --> 01:07:41,640
There's actually three of those claims. One was on the 3rd, the 4th, and the 5th, and the remainder were all on the 13th of June.

913
01:07:42,100 --> 01:07:46,280
I was just as surprised as I had no idea that that was going on.

914
01:07:47,740 --> 01:07:53,840
So are you afraid to get environmentalists involved in here because that is designated as a deer yard for one thing.

915
01:07:54,300 --> 01:07:59,660
And I'm sure there's all kind of ecological species or whatever up there.

916
01:08:00,160 --> 01:08:07,020
So yeah, so why can't MRC and the municipalities get environmentalists involved in the saying that, you know,

917
01:08:07,400 --> 01:08:13,500
and the government, if it designates the restrictions for the sugar bush was incredible because of a deer yard.

918
01:08:14,600 --> 01:08:17,980
And so why is that restriction no longer there?

919
01:08:18,340 --> 01:08:20,580
It is the map that we looked at.

920
01:08:20,680 --> 01:08:21,280
It's a deer yard.

921
01:08:21,500 --> 01:08:21,640
Yeah.

922
01:08:21,660 --> 01:08:28,140
When we got to see, they had, you know, the colored overlays for deer habitat for sure.

923
01:08:28,800 --> 01:08:35,640
And so can you not step in in some kind of environmental way to say, well, this is wrong

924
01:08:35,640 --> 01:08:39,340
to do it in an area, a very sensitive area?

925
01:08:40,440 --> 01:08:46,080
It's funny you mentioned that because after I spoke to Shlayan, I'm looking at this and

926
01:08:46,080 --> 01:08:46,500
I'm thinking,

927
01:08:48,780 --> 01:08:54,080
is there something, a protection, a different kind of species of, I don't know,

928
01:08:54,260 --> 01:09:00,780
white-tailed eagles or something that's, you know, on certain areas on that crowned land

929
01:09:00,780 --> 01:09:05,620
or whatever, or even anybody's land for that matter, to put it in that protection mode.

930
01:09:05,620 --> 01:09:08,380
I can show you some blue heron's nest, on that.

931
01:09:09,280 --> 01:09:14,320
I can show you some underground creeks. It's a very sensitive area.

932
01:09:14,540 --> 01:09:15,420
Yeah, that's what I was just saying.

933
01:09:15,520 --> 01:09:18,200
Is it going to be open pit or underground?

934
01:09:18,260 --> 01:09:20,640
I don't know. It's too early to tell.

935
01:09:21,120 --> 01:09:24,920
I mean, the underground is different than the open pit. That's a big thing.

936
01:09:25,680 --> 01:09:29,180
Underground, you don't disturb the land up of the mine.

937
01:09:29,400 --> 01:09:31,240
From what? The pictures that I saw?

938
01:09:31,240 --> 01:09:34,380
for all we know maybe this project never left off the ground maybe it was just

939
01:09:34,380 --> 01:09:37,140
dying we'll never get back from them but the potential it's a step in the wrong

940
01:09:37,140 --> 01:09:40,640
direction the potential is there now well we all know that the mining

941
01:09:40,640 --> 01:09:45,160
mining companies you can't stop that's that's that didn't start yet no no we

942
01:09:45,160 --> 01:09:49,740
knew that uh one more question i'm i'm tired of

943
01:09:49,740 --> 01:09:54,260
hearing but did you pass the contract to set up the

944
01:09:55,640 --> 01:09:56,080
Yes.

945
01:09:56,360 --> 01:09:57,020
How much was it?

946
01:09:58,720 --> 01:09:59,780
Eighty-four thousand.

947
01:10:01,640 --> 01:10:02,520
How much did you get?

948
01:10:03,560 --> 01:10:04,280
Ninety-three.

949
01:10:04,680 --> 01:10:05,680
Up to ninety-three.

950
01:10:05,940 --> 01:10:06,840
Up to ninety-three.

951
01:10:06,900 --> 01:10:09,100
You have to pay one-third of that eighty-four thousand.

952
01:10:09,460 --> 01:10:09,600
Yeah.

953
01:10:10,060 --> 01:10:11,500
Oh, I see. That's different.

954
01:10:12,800 --> 01:10:13,820
I really like your angle.

955
01:10:14,880 --> 01:10:15,540
Do you want to move me?

956
01:10:15,760 --> 01:10:16,720
You want to see that map on?

957
01:10:16,800 --> 01:10:21,220
If you have no other questions,

958
01:10:22,160 --> 01:10:25,380
You got the man where you're going? I'll take a picture.

959
01:10:26,200 --> 01:10:26,280
No.

960
01:10:26,340 --> 01:10:26,720
I'll tell you.

961
01:10:30,700 --> 01:10:31,500
All right.

962
01:10:31,960 --> 01:10:33,420
Well, it should be for all of the colleagues.

963
01:10:33,800 --> 01:10:34,020
That's right.

964
01:10:37,660 --> 01:10:38,860
I have my own.

965
01:10:39,000 --> 01:10:39,920
I just reached out to my own.

966
01:10:40,780 --> 01:10:41,180
Okay.

967
01:10:42,160 --> 01:10:43,960
If there's no other questions, we're going to close the meeting.

968
01:10:46,920 --> 01:10:47,700
It's 8.10.

969
01:10:48,160 --> 01:10:51,000
So we're closing the meeting at 8.10.

970
01:10:52,140 --> 01:10:54,540
Thank you very much. Thank you for coming.