1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:05,840 It is 7:10, we'll call the meeting to order and we'll rise for the Pledge of 2 00:00:03,960 --> 00:00:08,520 Allegiance. Thank you, Dave. 3 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:18,920 » I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the 4 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:25,320 Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and 5 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:25,320 justice for all. 6 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:34,200 » All right, and I'll do a roll call. >> Council member Ritsma? 7 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:37,240 » Here. >> Council member Earl Barkus? 8 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:40,040 » Here. >> Council member Zalewski? 9 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:42,320 » Here. >> Council member Eric Barkus? 10 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:44,960 » Here. >> And Mayor DeBord? 11 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:49,800 » Here. All right, so for the consent agenda 12 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:54,600 tonight, I'm going to remove approval of the agenda from that consent package cuz 13 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:58,000 I'd like to amend it. Um so with that, I'll look for a motion to approve the 14 00:00:56,120 --> 00:01:00,000 consent agenda minus the agenda approval. 15 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:03,600 » I'll make that motion. >> I'll second. 16 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:06,199 » Any discussion? If not, roll 17 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:10,800 » Okay. Uh Chairman Council or Council member 18 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:13,640 Ritsma? >> Yes. 19 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:16,960 » Council or Mayor DeBord? >> Yes. 20 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:20,480 » Council member Zalewski? >> Yes. 21 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:23,040 » Council member Eric Barkus? >> Yes. 22 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:26,680 » Council member Earl Barkus? >> Yes. 23 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:30,600 » All right, so for the approval of the agenda, 24 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:35,480 uh I would like to make a motion to amend it. I'd like to include an item 25 00:01:32,960 --> 00:01:39,080 right after this agenda approval, um 26 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:43,240 to consider suspending city council decisions and discussions regarding the 27 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:48,080 future development projects or agreements with the township. 28 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:51,360 I would like that as number three right after the approval. 29 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:54,960 So I'll make that motion. >> I'll second. 30 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:57,880 » Any discussion or changes to the rest of the agenda? 31 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:59,880 If now? >> Okay. 32 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:03,160 Mayor of the board? >> Yes. 33 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:05,160 » Council member Goldweber? 34 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:06,600 » Yes. >> Council member Eric Barcus? 35 00:02:06,416 --> 00:02:09,520 [clears throat] >> Yes. 36 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:11,640 » Council member Earl Barcus? >> Yes. 37 00:02:10,479 --> 00:02:15,880 » Council member Winston Scott? >> Yes. 38 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:19,840 » All right, back to me then. So, here's what I wrote up. 39 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:23,920 Just some thoughts. Uh it has become crystal clear 40 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:27,959 throughout this year-long process, and maybe longer, that the township boards 41 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:31,320 are not acting in a transparent and good faith manner. 42 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:36,240 The lack of a clear direction and actions and comments to that end has 43 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:40,400 made it, in my opinion, impossible to continue further negotiations relating 44 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:44,520 to amendments to the water and sewer agreements, or any further discussion of 45 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:47,600 future projects or cooperative development. 46 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:51,880 I've attended and watched multiple township meetings, and I've followed the 47 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:56,440 process very closely, so these comments I don't make lightly. 48 00:02:53,959 --> 00:03:00,200 Uh something as simple as allowing the city attorney to continue in her 49 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:05,239 capacity as a member of the negotiations has now become an issue, as well. I feel 50 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:08,959 like simple things like that are causing stress and delays. It makes me 51 00:03:08,642 --> 00:03:13,480 » [clears throat] >> have less faith that the more difficult 52 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:17,000 things will be even more convoluted. Uh I don't think from our perspective 53 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:21,480 there should be any concession or urgency in regard to future cooperative 54 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:24,440 agreements or water and sewer agreements with the township. 55 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:28,880 We're already bound by the current existing water and sewer agreements, and 56 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:33,000 we'll continue to operate under them and their terms for the time being. 57 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:36,640 The changes to the existing water and sewer agreements being proposed at all 58 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:40,640 levels will impact our residents and our community for decades, and there needs 59 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:45,280 to be clear, concise, and honest communication and good faith to that 60 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:50,040 end. That has not been the case to this point, and it is unfair to the community 61 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:53,760 we were elected to represent to allow that to continue. 62 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:57,040 What I'm proposing to this city council is to hold a formal vote 63 00:03:55,640 --> 00:04:01,680 to suspend any city council or city staff 64 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:07,000 discussion or decisions regarding future development projects or agreements with 65 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:10,680 the township indefinitely. I believe it is time to take a 66 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:15,200 significant break to allow these issues to be corrected and cleaned up before 67 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:19,519 any further damage is done. So, I will make that motion. 68 00:04:18,280 --> 00:04:23,120 » I will second. >> Any discussion on any of that? 69 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:33,800 I will say for the discussion part of it that we will be back as a council 70 00:04:30,919 --> 00:04:39,200 to hold a formal vote and council comments before we re-engage, if we 71 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:41,653 choose to re-engage down the road. So, with that, JANELL? 72 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:43,673 » THANK YOU. >> [applause] 73 00:04:48,840 --> 00:04:53,240 » COUNCILMEMBER >> YES. 74 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:57,160 » COUNCILMEMBER ERIC BURGES? >> YES. 75 00:04:54,840 --> 00:04:59,919 » Councilmember Burrell Burges? >> Yes. 76 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:02,560 » Councilmember Rick Ma? >> Yes. 77 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:06,680 » And Mayor DeBoer? >> Yes. 78 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:13,200 All right. Now, we will go to item number four, citizen comment for the 79 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:13,200 four agenda items first. 80 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:22,320 All right. >> We don't have a clock tonight, so 81 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:26,560 » We don't have a clock tonight. >> So, I'll be letting everybody know 82 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:30,560 30 seconds left that your 3 minutes is almost expired. 83 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:32,600 I am >> 20 84 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:36,080 20 20 pages long? >> No. 85 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:42,400 Excuse me. There we go. >> Okay. I'm Perry Beacham. I reside at 924 86 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:46,160 Riverside Drive. I originally wanted speed tables to slow traffic, but have 87 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:50,440 come to to to the 88 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:53,720 had come to like the re-routing of Riverside Drive. 89 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:58,320 Riverside was never intended to be a thoroughfare to leave Lowell. It doesn't 90 00:05:56,120 --> 00:06:02,720 have the infrastructure for 4,000 to 6,000 91 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:06,320 6,000 cars per week that was recorded by the study. 92 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:10,200 I had heard it said Riverside Drive is the prettiest drive in Lowell, and I 93 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:16,080 agree. Everyone can still drive Riverside Drive 94 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:22,240 and see the beauty of the Flat River. It's not a race out of town. I do think 95 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:27,360 it is unwise to spend 51,000 on a permanent diversion. The current 96 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:32,280 diversion allows the city to open Riverside for special events like 97 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:38,919 triathlon, parades, or whatever the future brings. Even with the diversion, 98 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:45,120 I continue to see vehicles moving faster than 25 mph, just fewer of them. I'm 99 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:49,960 afraid that once the resurfacing is complete, travel speeds are going to 100 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:55,080 increase. I was traveling on Northshore Drive in Ferrisburg this last week, and 101 00:06:52,600 --> 00:07:00,680 they had three to four speed tables that kept vehicles in the 20 to 30 mph range. 102 00:06:58,840 --> 00:07:04,760 They were synthetic rubber and removable. I assume they remove them in 103 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:08,919 the winter. I don't like the idea of stop signs. I 104 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:13,880 watch cars every day sail through the stop sign at the end of Riverside. I 105 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:18,880 haven't seen the rendering of what 51,000 diversion looks like, but how are 106 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:23,120 you handling bike traffic? Are they going to have to be on the sidewalk? The 107 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:28,760 city has a ordinance that restricts bikes on sidewalks. I think it is crazy 108 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:33,200 to put a child on a bike and put them on the edge of the road with traffic, but 109 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:38,120 that's a whole other topic. It has been stated that Lowell doesn't 110 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:42,360 have the manpower to to police all streets in the city in a timely manner. 111 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:47,000 So, I would still like to see several speed tables along Riverside Drive that 112 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:51,520 allows traffic to flow but at a reasonable speed. Lastly, the 113 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:58,080 restaurants on Riverside Drive have to navigate Riverside Drive the same as 114 00:07:53,920 --> 00:08:01,430 everyone else. It is not exclusive to 115 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:03,450 non-residents. Thank you. >> [applause] 116 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:13,680 » Bruce Matthews, 326 Riverside. First, 117 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:16,919 congratulations on the previous motion. It's just 118 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:22,080 the kind of leadership that we like to see. So, thank you. 119 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:26,000 The uh just receiving this memo from from 120 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:31,360 Mike Burns in the in the agenda for tonight. 121 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:35,760 Uh late last week Mike Stacy's been asked to place this on 122 00:08:33,479 --> 00:08:40,919 the place on the agenda the uh uh barrier issue on Riverside. 123 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:43,680 And so, my my question is where does this come from? 124 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:48,320 You know, we we spent an awful lot of time talking about Riverside and the and 125 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:54,360 the problems and documenting the the safety issues and safety concerns. So, 126 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:57,560 documenting the fact that the quiet 127 00:08:56,000 --> 00:09:01,691 urban street is uh is not designed for the kind of 128 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:05,320 traffic that we documented in the city. [clears throat] 129 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:10,960 Um so, I hope that this is being brought up again not to discuss whether or not 130 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:14,760 there should be, you know, issues or or addressing the issues of of speeding on 131 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:18,480 Riverside but you know, perhaps the issue has to do 132 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:20,800 with the cost of the barrier or whatever. 133 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:25,080 I don't think any of us that have been in favor of of 134 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:30,880 of addressing the speed issues, you know, see that that $50,000 needs to be 135 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:36,920 spent on it. It's certainly the barrier is working as it is right now. 136 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:42,480 But but I'd hate to see us reopen and re-examine what we'd already re-examined 137 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:46,080 at an item you know last last spring. So I 138 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:50,080 I encourage us if if in fact the purpose of this agenda is item is to uh 139 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:54,280 uh reopen this whole case. I just encourage 140 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:59,080 not to do that and if there's some discussion about the barrier itself then 141 00:09:57,400 --> 00:10:04,800 you know then then I would like to go on record as being in favor of maintaining 142 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:08,760 the barrier in some capacity. So so thank you for that. I'd also like to say 143 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:13,480 that despite uh uh 144 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:16,040 furor on social media that is is is full of uh 145 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:21,480 full of errors. Um Riverside Drive Drive is not private. It 146 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:24,800 is not the intent of anyone on Riverside Drive to do anything but share our 147 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:28,000 beautiful drive, you know, with everyone. I mean I'd anybody to come up 148 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:32,520 sit with me on my porch and have a cup of coffee and watch the river. Um 149 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:36,800 there's no intent from my from our our perspective to to close or 150 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:39,920 privatize or any of that sort of thing that 151 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:42,920 is being battered around. So you know, we we love our drive and we want to 152 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:44,839 share it. We just want to share it safely. 153 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:47,160 Thank you. >> Thank you, Bruce. 154 00:10:48,457 --> 00:10:50,477 » [applause] 155 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:57,920 » Hi, I'm Gina Ladner. I live at 1451 Bowes. 156 00:10:56,800 --> 00:11:05,560 Um I too have an issue with $51,000 157 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:09,160 spent on a barrier. Um I don't know um how many bids were 158 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:11,080 um considered. 159 00:11:10,727 --> 00:11:15,960 » [clears throat] >> Probably is a cheaper way to do that and 160 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:20,360 still keep the integrity of Riverside Drive. 161 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:24,520 Um And this may or may not 162 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:30,000 be off course, but 163 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:34,720 Riverside Drive speed traffic. What about Main Street? It's two lanes. 164 00:11:32,997 --> 00:11:38,720 » [clears throat] >> I counted 165 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:43,040 and I stopped at 30 and it was less than 2 hours. How many semi trucks drove past 166 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:50,480 my store? That's just 2 hours. 30 trucks. 167 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:55,200 Um and the speed, even the trucks aren't going 25. 168 00:11:52,200 --> 00:12:00,160 They're just flying down there. So, if we're going to if we're looking 169 00:11:57,000 --> 00:12:02,640 at safety, Main Street needs to be considered as 170 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:05,760 well. Thank you. 171 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:05,760 » Thank you. 172 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:18,360 Good evening. My name is Bruce Washburn. I live at 517 North Clinton. 173 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:23,680 Um I just have a few comments. Uh I believe 174 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:27,840 as Barry mentioned and Bruce alluded to, um 175 00:12:24,680 --> 00:12:32,200 I think the design the current design was decades ago. 176 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:35,640 So, I think we need to try to do the best solution 177 00:12:33,680 --> 00:12:40,600 to appease both the positive and negative uh 178 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:45,440 direction we take. And I would just like to step forward a 179 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:50,960 bunch of steps and say I think it would be a good idea to just consider 180 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:56,080 um the way it currently is, they moved it this side of the elm. 181 00:12:53,120 --> 00:13:00,120 Um maybe just do a simple curve which would reduce our 51,000 182 00:12:58,839 --> 00:13:05,000 and um put a green space, if you will, between 183 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:09,000 that curve and then the curve that would come naturally out of the elm to the 184 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:12,440 existing curve. And it would be a I think a very 185 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:16,760 inexpensive um I know a lot of the conservatives, 186 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:22,360 you know, it has to be simple, it looks good. Not just a big barrier. 187 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:26,680 Magnetic signs, uh reflectors, and I get that. 188 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:29,880 Um but the other thing I would consider, and I think you pretty 189 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:36,480 much it, the rubber speed bumps. Would keep 190 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:40,240 traffic to a minimum. As both guys said, nobody wants it to be closed. It's not 191 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:46,320 closed. And it's the most beautiful street we have. 192 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:50,720 So, just maintain the traffic and speed to something that's safe, most 193 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:55,440 importantly, and and good for all. 194 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:59,720 So, those are the two options I think we should consider. And you know, 195 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:04,320 worth the weather now, we can make a decision. 196 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:08,480 So, I just hope you all will consider that. 197 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:08,480 » Thank you. 198 00:14:10,560 --> 00:14:18,680 » Hello. My name is Becky Soyka. I live at 1333 Boyds Bridge Road. 199 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:21,720 And what my thoughts are as far as Riverside goes, 200 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:26,240 is it really should be open. It belongs to 201 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:32,440 the the town. It belongs to the people. It doesn't belong to just a select few. 202 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:35,960 And as far as the speed limit, enforce the speed limit. And that isn't the only 203 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:40,800 street in town that we're concerned about with people 204 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:44,640 riding bikes or walking or or even living on the street. I mean, on 205 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:48,120 the east side of town, I lived over there for years. 206 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:52,160 And speed was always an issue, but we never closed down any roads. 207 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:56,720 But the best thing that you can do is perhaps put in a stop sign or two like 208 00:14:54,360 --> 00:15:00,560 you did around the bowl. And try that and see how that works with 209 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:04,640 it being open. Because it's it it actually is one of 210 00:15:02,839 --> 00:15:07,800 the most beautiful roads along with several others in town. And I think we 211 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:12,200 need to look at that, too, before we just decide to shut it down and spend 212 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:16,080 all this money and barriers and blockades and 213 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:19,685 you know, just really limit it. Thank you. 214 00:15:17,665 --> 00:15:19,685 » [applause] 215 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:27,080 » Jared Schwartz, 420 Riverside. Um 216 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:31,360 I just want to record I agree with Bruce. 217 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:34,280 Question comes to mind as to why this issue is being revisited. I thought we 218 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:39,120 had two two rounds of public hearings, if I 219 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:41,680 remember correctly, and it was voted on in May. 220 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:44,480 Um but 221 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:47,200 I'm assuming we'll hear more about that after the comments are closed. 222 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:50,920 Um and I also want to go on record with 223 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:56,120 saying that I I think the road should remain 224 00:15:52,120 --> 00:16:02,880 closed in some way. Again, my concern is that section of parking that's at right 225 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:07,720 as soon as you come off M-21. Um that you do a a weave before you get 226 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:14,240 onto a more of a straightaway on Riverside. And uh 227 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:19,160 the traffic volumes have been cited anywhere between 4,000 and 6,000 cars a 228 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:23,240 week going through that weave. The moment you come off M-21, you 229 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:26,480 potentially have cars backing up right there where you're at. With that volume 230 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:32,040 of traffic coming through what is essentially a glorified parking lot, 231 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:35,040 you're going to have you It's not a question of when something 232 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:37,960 awful happens. It's a question Excuse me, it's not a question of if something 233 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:42,000 awful happens, it's just a question of when. 234 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:47,120 So, um I don't know the perfect solution there. Um 235 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:50,880 the maybe the barrier at where it had been for the last few 236 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:54,160 months isn't the best solution. Um maybe it's something that needs to be farther 237 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:56,520 down in some way and there's issues with um 238 00:16:55,120 --> 00:17:02,400 uh service trucks and other things being able to access the the businesses. I get 239 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:07,720 out of my expertise, but uh if the road is left completely open 240 00:17:05,319 --> 00:17:13,720 without any um with the the repainting done without any 241 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:17,280 barriers or any um speed reduction of any sort, 242 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:19,079 that section is going to be uh 243 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:24,120 awful. Very, very dangerous. 244 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:24,120 » Thank you. 245 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:32,960 » Hello, Rob Newman, 928 Riverside Drive. Saw this come up. Yeah, we've had two or 246 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:36,160 three sessions of this. I don't know why we're having this dialogue again. What 247 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:41,320 you currently have in there has worked very well. It may not be pretty to look 248 00:17:38,360 --> 00:17:45,440 at, but it has really made that road a lot safer. 249 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:49,480 Kids I'm not as worried as kids as they used to be about it. And I think to 250 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:53,240 change anything, maybe if you want to improve the looks of the barriers, the 251 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:56,480 barriers have worked. Traffic will never slow down cuz we 252 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:59,720 don't have enough police enforcement. That's just the way it is. And until 253 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:03,640 that changes, leave the barriers that are there now. 254 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:08,480 You can look at the speed tables, get the road paved, and I want to address 255 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:11,920 one other thing, too. To the people that know the individuals 256 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:16,040 that are out there that are threatening city council, mayor, the the board, 257 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:19,280 people on Riverside Drive. We have people driving [clears throat] on the 258 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:23,360 road honking their horns and flipping my 81-year-old neighbor off. 259 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:28,280 I think that's really gone overboard. And I blame social media. 260 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:31,800 Thank god I'm not on it. So, on a bright spot, thanks to the people 261 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:35,920 that have helped, the Friends of the Flat. I'm allowed to say that, I 262 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:39,080 believe. The contributors, the the people that sponsored us. 263 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:42,280 There's some positive stuff happening here in the world. I think we need to 264 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:44,680 redirect to the right positive things. Thank you. 265 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:51,040 » Kimberly Hale. 266 00:18:51,120 --> 00:18:57,000 Can I wait a minute? >> No, you're good. 267 00:18:53,160 --> 00:19:02,680 » Yeah, 1019 160th Street, Elco. We also own the house at 528 Lafayette. 268 00:19:01,360 --> 00:19:08,480 Um and we also are supporters of Friends of 269 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:14,040 the Flat and utilize the river. I am here speaking against the barrier, and I 270 00:19:12,120 --> 00:19:17,160 am also against the $51,000 271 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:25,320 price tag that seemed to have come after this approval, 272 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:28,680 and how many bids were placed on this project? 273 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:32,480 Um I did see 274 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:37,680 the uh studies that were or done on 275 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:43,080 Riverside about uh I think there were studies of 909 276 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:45,320 cars per day during the week or 79 on the weekend 277 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:48,720 um when it was open. 278 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:53,440 Well, with that being closed, that traffic is being diverted down Main 279 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:59,640 Street and at the light. And that's a safety issue also, and 280 00:19:56,320 --> 00:20:03,840 people taking alternate routes to get over to Riverside 281 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:06,920 or crossing. Um 282 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:10,960 the road is a public road that everyone should be able to enjoy 283 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:15,400 to take to actually get where they're going, not have to go out of their way 284 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:19,240 to see it. Um 285 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:23,840 I know there are a lot of people that live on it that like the barrier, 286 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:26,920 and I get it. But 287 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:31,680 over on Main Road, they got a stop sign. 288 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:35,640 I don't know how in front of a retired teacher's bay window. 289 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:39,760 And I don't know that that was ever tried on Riverside. 290 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:45,000 I don't know on Riverside if any tickets were ever issued. 291 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:50,400 It sounded like the cars were counted, but I don't know if there was any action 292 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:54,800 or accountability there. And I don't want to be disrespectful 293 00:20:53,200 --> 00:21:00,280 towards police force because I appreciate them. They do a great job. 294 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:03,600 But were they ever directed to give it the attention and actually issue 295 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:08,000 tickets? Um 296 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:11,840 it's a small town. Word spreads. And I think that would have gone a long 297 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:16,280 way. You've got Monroe, also people are still 298 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:20,539 speeding down. You got Washington, they're still speeding down. You have 299 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:21,240 the extra traffic coming through. >> [clears throat] 300 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:23,320 » Pardon? >> 30 seconds. 301 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:27,680 » Oh, I'm sorry. Okay. Well, I'm in favor of speed bumps, 302 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:33,080 stop signs, and no barrier. And I also really don't like that the 303 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:35,659 price tag came after the fact. >> Yes. [applause] 304 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:44,040 » I don't have to answer to you again, Alan. Um, one of the first to express 305 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:46,600 that um understand the issues with either barrier or speed tables. There's 306 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:49,320 a lot of different options that are out there. I don't live on your side, so I 307 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:53,840 probably won't have an opinion on the say. What I am more concerned about is 308 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:57,680 $51,000 for a barrier. We just bought some plastic plastic dollars for 309 00:21:55,480 --> 00:22:01,960 probably a fraction of that cost. And use that money elsewhere in other 310 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:05,960 needs that the city has. A huge debt on fixing. So, I would really 311 00:22:04,360 --> 00:22:09,840 encourage you the city council to take a look at that. Um, since we have a lot of 312 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:12,840 needs in our money going on. And I also like to leave Main Street alone. We know 313 00:22:11,360 --> 00:22:16,360 we don't get to live and work in the city. We have to go some places. We're 314 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:20,120 not equal people because we drive. We have to go somewhere. And I would 315 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:23,440 suggest you leave Main Street alone. Otherwise, and that will ask that you 316 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:27,680 build a bypass. And the city probably has to foot the bill. Thanks. 317 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:27,680 » Thank you. 318 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:37,000 » Hi, I'm Audrey Sweigart. I live at 1231 White Birch Road. 319 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:42,040 Um, I just wanted to say um I saw the Riverside Drive topic [clears throat] 320 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:45,880 mentioned and I was happy to see it come back through. I've been to previous 321 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:51,320 meetings and um I know safety on Riverside was an issue 322 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:56,120 and I totally agree with that. Um, it was never looked into on Hudson or where 323 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:59,800 the other streets where the people would have to 324 00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:05,160 alternate their route. So, it would be nice to kind of get other alternatives. 325 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:09,120 Also, the price tag was a little concerning, too. I know the barrier was 326 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:12,920 a temporary solution. So, if there's other temporary things 327 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:17,480 that we could try that might be more affordable, like a couple of stop signs, 328 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:21,520 and just try it and see how it goes because there's safety issues on many of 329 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:26,800 the other roads, too, especially with how congested it's been after Riverside 330 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:31,560 isn't shut down, but it's, you know, diverted. So, it has been very congested 331 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:36,781 in town, so it would be worth looking into other alternatives. 332 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:38,801 But, appreciate the time. Thank you. >> [applause] 333 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:46,960 » Sharon Ellison, 407 North Division. First of all, I want to commend you for 334 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:50,320 readdressing this because there's a lot of scuttle about this 335 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:52,440 still. I know you've had lots of hearings, [clears throat] you've 336 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:56,520 discussed it, you've done a lot of different things, but still people are 337 00:23:54,320 --> 00:24:01,400 complaining about it. So, it's very brave of you to step up and take one 338 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:06,520 more look at it before anything is done. I live on Division Street. When I go 339 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:11,800 through town about 5:00, the line almost starts at the Methodist Church for the 340 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:16,040 traffic light. So, I do cut over to go by Riverside. I don't speed, but I 341 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:19,080 always just cut over cuz it's the only way I can get to the other side of town 342 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:22,480 because the traffic light is so congested. 343 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:26,520 Um so, I understand that, and I understand the speeding and the safety 344 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:31,960 on a small street like that. It's got to be terrifying. But, closing a street 345 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:38,280 isn't the only way to keep it safe. So, maybe some other rubber bumpers 346 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:42,320 would be worth a try. I think people might be happier with that. 347 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:47,120 There's a lot of places in town where where people speed. So, 348 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:50,320 I don't know what you can do, but I can certainly see 349 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:54,080 for me, I never drive down Riverside anymore. It's kind of a hassle to zigzag 350 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:57,000 around, and I used to like to go down it. I used to walk down it, but now I 351 00:24:55,960 --> 00:25:01,120 just I just don't even go there anymore. It's 352 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:04,080 It's kind of sad, but it is beautiful. And um 353 00:25:02,120 --> 00:25:09,440 I think we shouldn't keep closing streets. We closed Horatio, we closed 354 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:14,160 Water Street, we shut down Lincoln Lake used to go through, now that's all the 355 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:18,880 zigzaggy things. And so we're just making our streets smaller, you know, 356 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:23,080 the paths that we can take smaller and smaller. So 357 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:27,440 I We need to keep them safe, definitely, but um closing them is probably not the 358 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:30,960 best idea. I think the bumpers would It's worth a try. It doesn't cost 359 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:34,082 $51,000. >> Yep. 360 00:25:32,062 --> 00:25:34,082 » [applause] 361 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:42,560 » Hi. Um Robin Briggs, I live on 1004 Riverside Drive. 362 00:25:41,120 --> 00:25:47,240 Uh Yes, people, it has gotten much nicer. 363 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:52,840 It is a much nicer road to walk down, drive down, live by. 364 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:56,000 What I'm not happy with is a $51,000 bill 365 00:25:53,920 --> 00:26:02,040 to block off the road. I still go around with Warner, I still take Riverside. Um 366 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:06,040 but 51,000 seems a lot of money when there stops extra stops signs we pull 367 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:11,840 out of the road that we could put on there. Try that versus blocking off the 368 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:17,280 road completely first, then maybe rubber stoppers. I There's got to be a cheaper 369 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:22,560 version to make that road safe. Especially after I 370 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:27,520 I am on social media. Um saw a report from somebody that put on 371 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:33,080 it about going to visit their cemetery and got kicked off their spot because 372 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:37,040 Oakwood doesn't have a fence to keep the people out of the private property. 373 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:40,960 I think there was a failure on somebody's part. I don't know if it's 374 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:44,520 the city council or whoever does the zonings, but 375 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:47,960 when we sold that or said that they could build that there, they should have 376 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:53,680 been automatically told to put a fence in. Let's block that off. Let's make 377 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:59,120 that private and public and I a dividing line perfectly there. 378 00:26:56,120 --> 00:27:03,040 I would like to see that 51,000 go towards that 379 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:06,840 and put it in. Put it Put a fence in that whole line. Put stop signs on our 380 00:27:05,120 --> 00:27:11,120 road. See how that works. Doesn't work. Go put something else in. 381 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:15,640 Put that in. I think blocking the road should be the last thing. Sorry, 382 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:20,120 neighbors, but there's got to be uh cheaper way to do this than that. 383 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:22,103 Oakwood needs to be addressed, ladies and gentlemen. 384 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:24,123 » YES. >> [applause] 385 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:32,200 » HI, JACKIE SAYLOR, 9689 386 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:36,080 Chew Chew Lane, Altoona. 387 00:27:33,360 --> 00:27:41,360 Um I just wanted to be noted um regarding the minutes for 388 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:46,520 last actually June, that everything that occurred after the 389 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:51,120 farm update was in violation of the open meeting act because people were 390 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:55,240 prevented from entering the room and participating in the meeting. Thank you. 391 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:05,040 » Hey there, Betsy Lefeuvre Wagner, Residents United for Healthy Growth. I 392 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:08,120 live in Altoona, but Growth in the address. So, I just wanted to come up 393 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:11,920 here. First of all, just thank you all because the first action you took this 394 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:15,520 evening was, you know, one of the most important. I think that when it comes to 395 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:19,880 transparency in government, it's really the bedrock of our values, right? Our 396 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:23,600 democratic values. It's important that you, you know, Mayor, thank you for 397 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:26,720 bringing that motion forward um in suspending, you know, the future 398 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:30,240 development and making sure that the township understands there needs to be 399 00:28:28,120 --> 00:28:35,320 transparency and open government with you all uh especially as it pertains to 400 00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:38,840 the proposed data center. Did want to go ahead and just throw in ask one 401 00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:41,520 clarifying question. Uh I recognize you might not be able to answer it now, but 402 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:45,640 still would love to put it on the record, which is just to understand that 403 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:50,360 while that is suspending actions with the township, whether or not actions 404 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:53,760 with Microsoft continue to move forward. I ask this recognizing that this summer 405 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:56,400 there was due to be a memorandum of understanding with Microsoft in and 406 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:59,920 around water agreement being able to look at 407 00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:04,040 engineering and such and just would like to know if that is suspended as well. 408 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:09,080 Again, really thankful for the work that this council continues to do. Huge shout 409 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:12,800 out to Eric who has made himself very open and accessible to many in this 410 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:16,160 community to be able to talk about water sewer agreements as well as the work 411 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:20,000 that Mike has done. But again, this issue of Microsoft is one that would be 412 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:23,480 a bit more helpful to understand what are those next connections and next 413 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:26,440 steps. So, thank you. >> It does for the record. 414 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:28,520 » It sounds like it. >> Yes. 415 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:30,540 » Okay, so there was so THERE WAS A >> [applause] 416 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:34,560 » THANK YOU. 417 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:42,400 » HI, I'M KEN MCWILLIAMS IN RIVERSIDE. THANKS first of all for getting the wall 418 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:47,040 going. That's awesome. Um it's been long overdue. 419 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:51,320 Um I was also surprised on the 51,000 for a barrier. I know at one point um 420 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:57,640 there was a discussion about potentially putting a gate across so that um 421 00:29:55,040 --> 00:30:03,760 for things like a parade or um bigger events or um 422 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:07,240 um DPW or fire or police needed things like that to open it. 423 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:11,200 Um I'm not sure what happened to that. Um that's still being considered or not. 424 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:16,520 Um Also, um I just want to reiterate that 425 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:21,840 you have these folks here um before brought it up. I'm using stop signs and 426 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:27,160 speed tables potentially only decreases the traffic volume by about 20%. 427 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:32,056 Um if that's the case, then that's still way over what you would expect say in a 428 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:35,640 road behind Creekside Kingdom or or any [clears throat] of those local 429 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:41,680 neighborhood roads. So, um thanks for all your work on this. 430 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:41,680 Thank you. 431 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:52,320 » Good evening, uh Steve Doyle, 706 Riverside Drive. When the barriers went 432 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:59,120 in a couple years ago, they pretty much solved the problem overnight. Uh speed 433 00:30:56,600 --> 00:31:03,600 count was 4,000 cars a week, and then actually 434 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:07,840 a few months back earlier in the year, another speed count was done, was 435 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:12,840 actually around 6,000 cars. And Riverside Drive is a local street. 436 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:16,640 You know, it's one of the only It's the only local street that actually you 437 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:21,920 could leave Lowell and go on to a a major road. So, it's a 438 00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:24,680 local street. Uh it's a very high traffic count. 439 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:28,360 Um any other, you know, speed bumps or stop 440 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:32,280 signs is really kind of 441 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:36,880 counterproductive. This street This street is not closed. Yes, you do have 442 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:42,720 to drive up a block and, you know, go around the block, but you can drive, uh 443 00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:45,800 you know, 85% of the 444 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:48,880 with, uh you know, 445 00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:52,960 no speed bumps or stop signs would be great. Would be great. And then if by 446 00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:57,240 doing by doing that speed bumps or stop signs, now we all 447 00:31:55,400 --> 00:32:00,920 Now we all have to contend contend with that. 448 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:03,440 » So, please stop, please. We're not going to do that. 449 00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:06,520 We're going to let the public comment on this Let me stop you for a second. 450 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:10,400 We're going to let them make their comments, which you are all free to do. 451 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:13,680 We are not going to shut up from the audience. We're not going to interrupt. 452 00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:16,360 Please. Thank you. >> So, anyway, 453 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:22,800 so anyway, I think I think the speed bump or the speed barriers done 454 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:28,160 a great job. Um the 51,000, yes, that's a lot of money, and maybe we could find 455 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:31,320 out find solutions for that, too, to try to, you know, reduce that and other 456 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:34,560 methods. Uh so, thank you. 457 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:34,560 » Thanks. 458 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:40,600 Anybody else for agenda items? 459 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:46,960 All right. Well, let's move on to the Riverside Drive area. Let me answer 460 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:51,880 Bruce's question. Where is he? I asked to bring it back. 461 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:51,880 And here's why. 462 00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:59,200 I'm not asking for nothing to be done because I want Riverside Drive to be 463 00:32:57,040 --> 00:33:02,240 safe for everybody. I'd love to see south of Riverside Drive in the 464 00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:05,600 downtown, especially with the new restaurant coming. 465 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:09,520 What I would like for us to discuss one last time before it goes in 466 00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:13,280 is are we being good stewards of your money 467 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:16,720 spending $51,000 on a 468 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:22,840 Is there a more cost-effective way to create the same safe free zone? 469 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:22,840 So, I probably should have 470 00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:29,680 communicated that better before I just had it put on the agenda. So, I'll take 471 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:32,800 the responsibility for that. But, am I being a good steward of 472 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:36,880 taxpayer money spending $51,000 on 473 00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:39,560 a problem and then 474 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:43,920 telling people we don't have money for other stuff that we need. So, I hope 475 00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:46,800 that answers your question. I apologize for the way I communicated it to 476 00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:51,120 everyone. Um but, it's time to do the work. You 477 00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:54,360 know, and I have one last discussion before 478 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:56,400 we spend that money on that problem. So, I hope that answers your question. 479 00:33:55,920 --> 00:34:00,560 » Thank you, Mike. >> Yeah. So, so real quick, I want to 480 00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:04,000 answer the change order question. So, this project was bid It's a federal 481 00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:09,000 project for the community development block block grant program. It's a 50% 482 00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:13,320 match by the federal government. When we awarded this When we move forward with 483 00:34:10,639 --> 00:34:16,879 this project, um the county bids and approves it for us, meaning that if 484 00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:20,639 there's anything additional, it has to be a done with the with a change order, 485 00:34:18,879 --> 00:34:24,679 meaning we have to have go through the contractor to do it. We cannot go off 486 00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:29,800 for bid. That's just the way it is. And so, um once I was directed to put 487 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:32,120 the barrier in, we went and initiated share change order because that's what 488 00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:36,200 had to be done with the whole of the project for. 489 00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:42,679 Um the project is actually at $46,000. That being said, um now is the time if 490 00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:47,280 you're going to not do that, um is to uh to make the decision to change it. Um 491 00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:50,840 the project I should add is still $200,000 below the engineer's estimate. 492 00:34:49,879 --> 00:34:54,360 So, um granted we have not had we've had a 493 00:34:52,679 --> 00:34:57,560 horrible experience with TVD per instruction. And basically, as far as 494 00:34:56,200 --> 00:35:03,600 I'm concerned, they're pretty incompetent. But, um 495 00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:09,080 but there is a savings there and and the project is still $150,000 under budget. 496 00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:13,160 That being said, if the if the council wants to go into a 497 00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:18,080 different direction, we need to know today because they're about ready to 498 00:35:15,720 --> 00:35:22,360 start putting base base gravel down and start pouring concrete. And once they 499 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:26,760 pour concrete, that's when it's game over. So, I've held off the concrete 500 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:30,720 um for a couple days. So, but we need we 501 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:35,440 need to know what we're going to do. The one thing I asked you to do, please do 502 00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:39,280 not put temporary barriers in the road to where we screw it in the road. We 503 00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:43,000 will regret that 15 years down the road. Please don't do that. 504 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:45,600 » All right. So, >> I think I have two 505 00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:49,400 » Yeah, hold on. Sorry, you had public comment. I'm sorry, go ahead. 506 00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:51,800 » Can you guys hear me? Oh. >> I'm sorry. 507 00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:55,640 » Um there's two public comments I want to put into record. Um 508 00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:59,320 one from David Bacot. 509 00:35:56,760 --> 00:36:02,680 Um said, "Dear City Council, thank you for letting me 510 00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:07,920 express my opinion even though I can't attend the meeting tonight. We live at 511 00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:12,600 804 Riverside. I have two young children. Since we've moved in, I've 512 00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:17,320 been very concerned about my children's safety due to the excessive speeding on 513 00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:21,320 Riverside. I expressed my concerns by calling the police station several 514 00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:25,160 times, met with the chief of police, and spoke with the city council 515 00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:28,440 meeting and spoke at the city council meeting. 516 00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:34,600 Unfortunately, the police station does not have the resources to adequately 517 00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:39,360 um enforce the speed limit. Although sometimes annoying, 518 00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:44,240 the barrier can direct has drastically reduced the amount of traffic and 519 00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:48,560 speeding on Riverside. If the river If the barrier is removed, I guarantee 520 00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:54,280 people will drive even faster than before now that the road is being 521 00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:59,520 repaved. Please consider leaving the barrier in place or some 522 00:36:56,600 --> 00:37:06,080 other permanent speed solutions such as the speed tables. David. 523 00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:09,080 And the second one to read into the meeting, 524 00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:16,160 um from Janet 525 00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:16,160 Genie Vander Loop. Just excuse me.