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right. I'd like to call to order the
Laura Satashia Board of Supervisors

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meeting of September 2, 2026. Ask
everyone to join me in the pledge of

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» allegiance.

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I aliance to the flag of the United
States of America and to the republic

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for it stands. One nation under God,
indivisible and justice for all.

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» Thank you. [clears throat]

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That brings us to our first public
discussion period of two on the agenda.

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Is there anyone wishing to be
recognized?

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» Seeing none, I'll move on. I'll take a
motion to approve the consent agenda

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items as listed and posted.
>> Thank you. Motion second.

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» Move to second. All in favor say I.
>> I. Post say nay. Motion carries.

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Committee reports zoning and hearing
board. There are no applications, Mr.

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Chairman.
Very good. Parkour and Miss Postman.

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» Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The next park
board meeting will be in this room this

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month. It's September 22nd at 7 p.m.
>> What was that?

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» That's unfortunately council.
>> How's that?

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» I think they were thinking it was going
to be maybe worse weather than we had.

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Um, unfortunately, and they don't have a
rain day. Castle for the year.

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» H
>> cancelled for the year.

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» Yeah.
>> CN 27.

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» CN 27. Exactly.
>> Very good. Fire chief.

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» Seeing no one. If there's a report that
gets submitted, we'll have it on files.

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Uh Freedom Valley Medical Rescue.
>> Do you want me to come up there or is

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this
>> Yeah, wherever you want your coffee.

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» Chief Hayne's going to be here tonight.
So, my name is Tom Shane, assistant

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chief. She asked me to come. So, I will
give you the information. I believe you

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won. For July, we had 273 dispatches out
of our Harleysville station. 153 of

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those were in Lower Southford. 120 were
outside of Lower Southford Township. Of

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those in the township, we were able to
cover 122. Outside agencies covered 31.

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We were recalled by VMSC 74 times,
recalled by other agencies four times,

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and the station was in service 100% of
the month.

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Is there anything else you would like to
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» Well, I think we're good.
>> All right.

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» Appreciate you coming out tonight.
>> Thanks.

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» Yep.
>> Thank you. Very good. Uh,

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nearly on it. Moving right along.
Communications committee. Miss Kelly.

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Thank you, Mr. Chairman. A brief update
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from March to June, we ran the residents
resident communication survey. Um, we

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had 196 responses. Um, from those
respondents, everyone got to choose

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three of their um, top choices for how
they currently receive news and how they

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would like to receive news. Um, from
those results, most people are receiving

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their news through our constant contact
email. Um, but people seem to they would

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like to see more text notifications come
from the township. So, utilizing the

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readym service about 58% of respondents
would like to see text messaging

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services. So,
>> do we have a breakdown of the

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sabotage of residents that are have text
alerts from Ready Mont?

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» That could definitely be Oh, um I don't
>> just curious how that compares to our

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databases.
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whether or not people know it exists, I
think would be the next question. Are

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you receiving them and would like to see
more or are you just not receiving them

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at all?
>> If anyone has any questions about that,

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I can send you the full results as well.
Um, the communications committee is also

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working on public comment guidelines to
assist residents to um be better

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prepared and know what our public
comment process looks like. Um, so if

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you have any recommendations on what you
would like to see on those guidelines,

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it will mostly just be a resource on our
website for individuals who are looking

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to make public comment to prep, know
that they should state their name and

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address and that they can post what
questions they would like. Um, and

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finally, the communications committee um
has seen other nearby townships have

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website pages for upcoming ordinances.
Um, and so that would mean anything

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that's on future agendas or is currently
being advertised um would just have a

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separate page of its own on the website
so residents could stay up to date on

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what's coming down the pipeline. So
again, if you have any thoughts on that,

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the communications committee is looking
for your input.

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» Grace, I would like I would like to see
the I if you could send me the results

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of the survey, that'd be great. I also
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what you said about educating people on
how to present thoughts they have and

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also to let them know that we welcome
them at every meeting. Public discussion

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times are always on the agenda. So
that's great to hear

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» certainly and those guidelines will come
before the board before they go to our

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websites.
Just one one item too on the public

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comment process if you know the
guideline could include what meeting

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might be best for each subject matter
>> so that the right meeting

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» that is all
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» all right very good moving along the
recreational authority uh recreation

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authority we [clears throat] had our
meeting uh a week or so back uh got our

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financials from July
uh doing terrific the month of July.

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Exceeded budget um in all categories and
we actually exceeded play by about 55

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rounds over budget. So the course is uh
looking great. Uh there is a lot of

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play. So
stay the course as it get. So with that

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uh we'll move on. Uh there is no
unfinished business. that up it seems.

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All right. Uh, new business.
[clears throat] Resolution 2026-21

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is authorizing the submission of a grant
application for the 2026 Main Street

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Matters program.
That is a

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Let's see if I get this right. uh a
grant of a total of 399,150

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would be um the township's portion uh
out of a $798,300

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grant. We're looking to get half. That's
the request.

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» This is for ornamental wedding
installation.

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» So, we don't have a plan put together
yet. We just kind of have a idea of what

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we want and where we want it. We did
look to have them approximately every

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100 ft supplementing the current
existing overhead utility lighting. Um

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so that is the plan as of now from Maple
to Huntsburg or on Main Street.

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» One side.
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» I have a quick question. Where do we get
our matching funds? Like where do we

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take them?
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Any other questions, comments?
If not, I'll take a motion to approve

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that resolution.
>> I'll make the motion. I'll second.

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» Moved and second. All in favor say I. I.
Post say nay. Motion carries.

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» Next up, resolution 2026-22
setting forth the minimum municipal

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obligation for police and non-uniformed
employees pension funds for the calendar

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year 2027.
Joe, I don't know if you want to be able

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to back out on this, but required by the
state.

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» It is a requirement by the state to
ensure that the township had equity

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funding the various pension plans. Uh we
have police pension plan. We have a

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non-uniform pension plan that includes
employees who were hired prior to 20

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2016. And then we have a defined
contribution plan which was uh everyone

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who's been hired after 2016. Um and
county the county actuaries review the

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plans, review the u the funds that are
in the uh funds for the the pension

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program and then they calculate based on
actuarial assumptions what the yearly

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contribution from the township should
be. Um there was slight increases in uh

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in each one uh nothing major and that
usually follows the uh the stock market

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because the funds we have each of the
plans are in in

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funds for that are largely in the stock
market 100%.

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» No, it's usually about 65 35.
So there's some in bonds and and cash as

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well. Uh but uh it's a pretty standard
mix. Um so the

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MMO for the police pension plan is
slated for $342,673.

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The
lower south municipal pension plan is uh

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$56,000

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uh $125.
um a portion of that $223,

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uh454
is for the authority, the township

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authority and the township uh
non-uniform plan are are done together.

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So they're both the employees in the
authority and employees in the township

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are under the same pension. So there's
they calculate how each t so the tax

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portion is 56,000 and the authority
portion is 23,000 they have fewer points

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and the contribution um
plan for uh township is $70,924

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for the authority is 18,65.

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» Very good. Any uh questions or further
comment on resolution 2026-22?

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» Hearing none, I'll take the motion to
approve.

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» Motion second.
>> Moved and seconded. All in favor say I.

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» I. Say nay.
>> Motion carries. Next up, resolution

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2026-23,
which is the commitment of funds for

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land preservation of the Keen farm. This
would be the uh township's uh commitment

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to that to that farm. 15% reserves the
farm. It's $47,8365.

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» And this is a budgeted item that we went
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» Any questions or comments for the board?
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wishes have finally come to fruition.
Congratulations

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to the teams on accomplishing what was a
family goal and uh I'd be delighted to

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approve the resolution
for

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2026-23
commitment for funds for agricultural

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conservation of the food. Second moved
and seconded. All in favor say I. I.

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Oppos say nay. Motion carries.
Next up, resolution 2026-24.

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This is 270 Main Street, 460 Stover
Road, lot line adjustment plan approval.

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Mr. Chairman, Sure. If I could before we
start this um given

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um share of ownership, my family has an
H& properties. I will be abstaining from

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all declaration, discussion, and voting
on items. Very good.

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» There's a member item that has been
drawn up by the our solicitor. I will be

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signing this and getting it to town
manager.

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» We'll attach it to the minutes. Very
good.

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All right. With that, uh, we have some
friends in to, I guess, discuss the this

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is the outcome of our triparty
agreement, uh, to facilitate the

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purchase of Leo.
>> Yep. You took the words out of my mouth.

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This is just the lot line plan and I
have a representative here from Van Clee

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Engineering to answer any questions as
well as Bobby Henning from H&A

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Properties uh Limited Partnership.
>> Very good.

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Any questions of the board comments?

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It seems like we've met a thousand times
about this. So, uh

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» I feel like I just saw you. It's great.
>> You may regret that later. Um all right.

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So then with that uh any uh any comments
>> somebody here?

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» Yeah. Well, for the benefit of those
that might watch this video in the

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future, maybe have just uh Scott run
through real quick and

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» give it the [clears throat]
30,000 foot.

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» Yes. Uh good evening. Scott Mill,
landscape architect with Anleaf

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Engineering. Uh worked on the plan in
front of you uh there on the screen. Uh

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you can kind of see a running more or
less through the middle of the site a

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cyan bluish color line. That's the
existing um left edge if you will of the

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uh property. You can see the shopping
center to the right, the Henning

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shopping center. Um the idea was to
expand the shopping center. And in order

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to do so, we needed a lot line
adjustment. So uh over to where the kind

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of the green dash line is is the
proposed lot line. And in total, it's

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two and a half acres net. Uh there's
some land in the ultimate right ofway,

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which is typical of something like this.
Um that's about another quarter acre of

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land. And that goes all the way back to
the rear property line, which you can

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see the the left side, the yellow
dimension, 655 ft deep. Uh it's

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trapezoidal in shape. There's uh it's
about 124 feet wide in the back and

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about 202t wide in the front.
>> Very beautiful.

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All right. Any questions regarding S?
Hearing none, I'll take a motion to

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approve resolution 2026-24.
>> I'll make the motion.

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» I'll second.
>> Moved and seconded. All in favor say I.

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» I. Post say nay.
>> Anyone abstain?

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» Yes.
>> Very good.

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» All right. Next up, uh this will be
ordinance 2026-09

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270 Main Street, uh commercial district
zoning map amendment, authorization to

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advertise.
Mor.

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» Thank you. Um so if you mind putting
that plan back up. Um what this map

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amendment proposes to do is to uh
reszone that 2 and 1/2 acre parcel from

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from MU mixed use to C commercial to
match the zoning of the H&A property of

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the shopping center which is currently C
commercial.

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» Right. This shopping center intends to
use this 2 and a half acre piece of

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ground uh in commercial center.
>> Correct.

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» Yeah.
>> We tried to avoid a split zone property.

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All right. Very good. Any questions
regarding S? Yes, sir.

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» Is that potentially going to lead to
another fast food restaurant?

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» Uh I believe there is a uh site plan or
sketch plan that is in the work and have

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you been before the planning commission?
>> We have uh that that conversation will

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be continued at the planning commission
on September 23rd. Um but that

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application has been filed with the
township and is available for you to

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inspect. So, it wouldn't be just a fast
food. It would also be, I think, an

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expansion of the St. Luke's. There's
other buildings proposed on that plan.

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Make a
>> like a surgery center. St wants to make

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it a surgical center or something or
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still being worked out, but it will be
an an expansion of that existing St.

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Luke's. Yeah.
>> Great.

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» It would be nice. Does that answer your
question? Yes. Thank you.

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» Can I get your name and address for the
record?

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» I'm sorry. My name is John Mertz. I live
in Hidden Creek. I've been a township

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resident for 27 years.
>> Good to see.

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» All right. Very good. Any other
questions or comments regarding

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ordinance uh 2026-9?
>> Just that there will be a hearing next

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month and this is just a motion to
authorize it to be advertised in

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accordance with the MPC municipalities
plan code.

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» Yeah. Thank you.
Make a motion.

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» Move the second. All in favor say I. I.
Post say nay.

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» Yes.
>> All right. Very good.

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» Great. Thank you very much. Good to see
you. Have a good

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» All right. [clears throat]
With that completed, we'll move on. Uh

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this will be again ordinance 2026-10
open space and frails committee

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ordinance authorization to advertise. Uh
this will be to facilitate the uh earned

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income tax that was passed in May, so
long ago. Uh and forming a committee to

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uh do a host of things, but not the
least of which uh will be the evaluation

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of potential open space to come before
including the home.

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» Mr. Chairman have a comment regarding
the proposed

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um item 27-4
talks about meetings. It says a

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committee shall hold regular meetings no
less frequently than on a monthly basis

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with additional meetings conducted as
needed to fulfill the duties of the

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committee. While I do believe the
committee is going to have to meet on a

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monthly basis to get started, I believe
that might be uh an encumbrance at some

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point in time down the road. And I'd
like to maybe quarterly

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» um and then give them the flexibility to
meet more frequently if needed.

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» Any other comment category? So since
we're just advertising, we can make this

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edit and get it advertised according.
>> Yeah. If the if the uh consensus of the

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board is to make that change, we can
make that change and have that version

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advertised
>> and then also to list the change of at

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least quarterly updates to the board
with an annual written because right now

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we have it monthly based on the
conversation.

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» That does make sense, right? um meet
quarterly. Report quarterly.

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» Meet me meet quarterly.
>> Report quarterly. Yeah. So those would

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be the two changes to this ordinance if
if the board um authorizes advertisement

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this evening.
>> Good with those two changes. I'm good

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with that.
>> Any comment

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reflection? All right. All right. So
then with that, we'll take a motion to

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authorize the ordinance um with the two
edits bill.

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» I'll make the motion.
>> I'll second.

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» Move the second. All in favor say I. I.
Post say nay. Motion carries.

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» All right. Next up, motion to approve
fire police assistance to Tommenson Fire

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Department for the chicken barbecue on
September 12, 2026. I'll make the move.

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» Second.
>> Moved and seconded. All in favor say I.

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» I. Those say nay. Motion carried.
>> Next up, motion to approve fire police

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assistant to Eert Auto Body for their
car exhibit and open house scheduled for

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September 26th, 2026. I'll make a
motion.

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» Second.
>> Moved and seconded. All in favor say I.

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I. Post say nay. Motion carries. All
right. Next up, motion to appoint

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members to the uh hopefully soon to be
formed open space trails committee. Um

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we had the privilege uh to review I
think 19 applicants in total. Uh, one

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thing I will say for sure, we have a
very uh,

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learned uh,
I guess population here in Lower Safford

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Township that the applicants that we got
are great. Uh, I I would have in past

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times we've had openings that we
couldn't fill. I would have appointed

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any one of those 19 students.
Unfortunately, we're we're down to

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three. We're only going to add three to
the what will be for long to I guess in

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total there'll be nine members. We've
got six in place we believe currently uh

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with three more to add. So Joe, if you
want to just read off those that are

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going to be I guess put forth as
committee members. Uh for the record

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that probably

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[clears throat]
>> So the three

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uh citizen members are waited for Andy
Kraak,

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Alexandria
Matea

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and Liam Clearary.
The two from the planning commission are

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Joe Harwano and Julia Hurl.
The two from the park board are

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Stephanie Moyer and Indie Burch. And the
two on board of supervisor

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representatives are Keith Bergman and
Mary Beth.

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And then uh in January uh that will be I
guess part of our reorganization as

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would be with others boards and Okay.
Very good.

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» So with that I'll take a motion.
>> I'll make the motion.

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» I'll second.
>> Would have been seconded. All in favor

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say I.
>> I.

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» I. Post say nay. Motion carries. All
right. That brings us to our second

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discussion period of the evening. Second
of two. Is there anyone wishing to be

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recognized? Mr. today.
>> Scott Bford 665 North

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couple questions one.
Uh we had a streetscape plan being

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worked on, didn't we? At one point in
the last few months,

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» we did submit a grant um to enable us to
go through a planning process. So

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there's still ways to hear about that.
>> And how does that connect with the

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voiding point? Where should they be
connected?

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» Definitely they probably will.
hand

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check and then help me understand this
open space and trail committee versus

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the park committee.
>> You ask you as a question where where

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was that coming from?
>> Well, I'm going to let Joe feel this

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because Joe and Holly have done a little
research on our park board and I think

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uh we've got a little more work to do.
Well, [clears throat]

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the park board
was formed in 1968. Uh, Slass Township

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Code requires it to be implemented via
pen ordinance, which never happened.

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[clears throat] So, basically, the park
board has been somewhat of an ad hoc

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committee since 1968,
>> but no,

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» 58 years. But to I guess more to your
point, I think that the discussion was

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and it had been since we've been
discussing how this committee was that

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there was in place an ad hoc committee
for frail society and much of the

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discussion they had was finding
connections and connections that were

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publicly owned connections because
everybody those connections a lot easier

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than if you have to go out and so forth
from residents or host. Um so there was

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a portion of what they did as a trail
and sidewalk committee that overlaps

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with the open space committee. So there
they the the committee the open space

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committee and trails committee were
looking at some similar situations and

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as far as where trails could be placed
and also open space. So it just was a

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kind of a natural progression that the
trails committee which was basically ad

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hoc already
was [clears throat]

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this was making that a more uh formal
portion of the trails and so I mean not

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the open space since you know I mean
it's difficult unfortunately we had 19

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people so it wouldn't be as difficult
now as it was in the past but to the man

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or to have people on two committees is a
lot more difficult

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But since a lot of what they were doing
over overlapped cement.

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» So essentially the charter of the park
committee will change to just remove the

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responsibility of trip.
>> Well there was no charter.

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» Well okayent [laughter]
the intention will be the intention will

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be you got the ordinance now set up for
the open space committee. We're going to

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have a similar ordinance for the park.
>> We recreate it

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» and we're going to recreate it in a
manner that they complement one another.

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» Okay. Because the other thing that the
open space committee is going to do is

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assist I think in the direction of
pursuing grants and funding

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opportunities which isn't something
necessarily that the park board did. So

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there's going to be kind of a division
of labor.

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» It's going to be a partnership.
>> It really is really unique. Okay.

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» And is I mean good good question. So the
overlap one of the overlaps would be the

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trails.
>> No they'll redo it.

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» Now there won't be an overlap.
>> No they'll redefine the responsibility.

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» Yeah. I mean, there still may be things
that come up on the trails at a park

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board meeting that might get kicked back
to open space as, hey, here's an

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opportunity for a connection. Can you
guys go try to figure out how to connect

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these two pieces? And then that would be
a challenge back to open space. That's

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just an example. In the park board would
do much of what they do is uh monitor

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maintenance and park usage and so forth.
So, it would probably keep that focus,

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but obviously people come to the park
board and they say, "Hey, I have this

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great idea to do this." And so maybe
that would be where the park board would

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say hey you know the open space trails
commitment is the appropriate place for

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that question right now you know
implementation comes back to the park

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» and then the oversight of the funds is
in connection with

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» all funds are with you
>> recommendations come from that

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» correct
>> in both cases okay

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» this is a recommend we'll point them in
the recommendation

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» and there's arguments between the two
wrestling we had to have a cage Okay.

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Three [laughter] public
invited.

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» I choose that.
>> I got one. One other question. Come back

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a little bit.
>> Okay. Uh has the board seen the Clemens

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Mill development?
Ule

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on May behind.
>> The board

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preliminary plans. Was is is there um
street lighting on Sunny Town with that

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project?
>> I'd have to check plan. I can't recall

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» because you're stopping at Maple, right?
And then I just wondered why start stop

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at Maple and Huger or what made it those
two roads. And I'm thinking we're going

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if they're doing lighting out there
because they're building some new homes

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on Sunday Town as part of that project
too. New homes. if I don't recall if

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they're putting street lighting because
it only kind of makes sense to extend

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the street lighting to Maple if that's
where the other grant money is kicking

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in.
>> Well, it's a cost.

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» Yeah,
>> obviously. And it's not that I think

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that that Maple and Hunsburg would be
the only in between those would be the

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only places would eventually go up. I
think it's that's kind of the core of

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the village and that's the first place
to start. And I guess that's where I'm

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saying if I don't think you finalize
that development at the Clemens, if

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there's an opportunity to have them
continue it into the new neighborhood

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along Sunny Town because they're going
to be putting in sidewalks along Sunny

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Town, a couple new homes. If they could
put one or two or three to get it down

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to closer to Maple to keep it going so
we don't have to pay for it.

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» Maybe we should get a spec for the
street lighting on Main Street that we'd

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like to see.
I think we have them right.

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» Yeah, we were looking um to use similar
lighting ornamental structures that is

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in the development um behind the wall.
I'm sorry, I can't remember the name

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» sounds good.
>> Good.

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» All right. And so in keeping with all of
that, we got word today that uh our

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elected representative for the
state was successful in getting us

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$250,000
uh grant put towards open space and the

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track. So I think that's our first true
grant coming in. So

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» hopefully many more to come but we were
hoping like 800 8 million worth take you

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write the check we will take and we'll
make a big one up don't get so anyway

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that's another goal in in this
>> all right very good

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» you exhausted your question
>> yes I am

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» my three wishes
>> any other public discussion yes sir

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» I asked this in the um planning
commission meeting, but I don't know if

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it was the right venue to ask it.
>> Uh given the traffic light at the end of

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Quarry Road and now the easier access on
and off of Quarry on the Sunny Town

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Pike, is it possible to put a uh no
trucks local deliveries only sign on

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Quarry Road there?
There's um

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» we
>> because of the proximity of where I

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live, I observe a fair amount of large
truck and tractor trailer traffic. I

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think cutting off the
113 in Sunny Town fight corner heading

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over the skip. Yeah. And uh I've
actually noticed a couple trucks,

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you know, 45 or 50 foot traffic failers
coming up Bridge Road through old 40ft

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road and trying to get out of there
during lunch hour. So, it just was they

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already took out the stop sign or the uh
Yeah, the stop sign, the big turn arrow

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there, and that guy's landscaping
several times. Yeah. Making a right

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there. So, and you're right. I mean,
they're cutting that corner off and

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using Google to do it
>> as opposed to a truck

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» app, you know.
>> So, yeah. So, I agree with you, but I

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don't know if we can
>> One thing we could do Well, we could do

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a truck study.
>> We'll do a truck study. We'll have our

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traffic engineer uh do that evaluation
and let's see what uh make on that.

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» Thank you.
>> Of course,

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» I'm with you on that because yeah, see
I'm seeing a lot of truck driving

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traffic back to the whole area now.
>> Yeah,

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» makes sense.
>> Makes sense.

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Any other public discussion? Yes, sir.
Name an address for the record.

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» Chris Williamson, 268 Trirley Drive. Um,
yeah. I uh probably this is a better

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question for the uh soon to the the uh
trails committee, but I I love our

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trails here in Louis Salford. I think
it's one of the great resources we have.

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Um I just when I went on a bike ride the
other day, um I was wondering if there's

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plans to connect off Oak Drive. There's
those two new developments that went in.

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Um I forget the names of them, but it I
looked at the plans that were available

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online. It looked like
there was going to be a a trail that was

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going to connect to that development
across that stream. There is a bit of a

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and I was just wondering
>> change in elevation

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» there. Change in elevation. That's
right.

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» Yes.
>> I was wondering what it reading through

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some of the planning commission minutes
I might have missed something. Seemed

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like like one was built sooner than
planned or later than planned. Is there

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a plan to connect that or how long would
that is there any estimate on the time

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frame?
>> Yes, there is plan conceptually to

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connect uh through you're talking about
the post office and the new up there all

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the way down to Main Street. Uh there's
a bridge structure that needs to be

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installed because of the change in
elevation. So that's kind of the future

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improvement that uh we're hoping to will
occur. Uh it's going to take some fun.

421
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So, uh, we're looking for grant
opportunities to do that. I don't think

422
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we've developed plans yet
>> for the covert.

423
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» Yes, the covert will start momentarily.
>> Okay.

424
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» Yeah. The cover
then the road beyond the bridge,

425
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» but the trail it wouldn't take a whole
lot to connect that to that development

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on their side.
>> I mean, the road. Yeah. That would take

427
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» much more funds, right?
>> Oh, you talking about Sturgis, the

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Sturgeis neighborhood. Uh the oldest
is I think it goes the trail goes

429
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through there, doesn't it?
>> Yeah. The the trail's going to go over

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the cover and and connect to the culdeac
in the back. In fact, there'll be

431
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another single family home built back
there.

432
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» Yep. Okay, great. It's awesome.
>> Come back in about six months.

433
00:34:10,639 --> 00:34:17,839
» Okay.
>> Come back anytime.

434
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Uh the there is a map on our website
that does speak to the trails that are

435
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out there, the sidewalks that are out
there and kind of what future

436
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improvements we're targeting. So it I
don't know if you have a chance to look

437
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at it. That's a good resource.
>> It's a good It's definitely a good

438
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resource.
>> Very good. Any other public discussion?

439
00:34:35,839 --> 00:34:40,480
See no takers. I'm going to move on. Do
we have need this evening for executive

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session?
>> Yes, Mr. Chairman. Brief executive

441
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session. No need to return. Excellent.
So with that u agreement, we'll take a

442
00:34:48,399 --> 00:34:52,320
motion to adjurnn.
>> I make a motion to adjurnn.

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» Second.
>> Moved and seconded. All in favor say I.

444
00:34:54,560 --> 00:35:01,680
» I. Oppose say nay. Motion carries. Thank
you all for coming in. Pleasure guys.

445
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Thank you.
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