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i'll call the meeting to order if you
would please rise i'm going to call on

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commissioner marshall for the invocation
and the pledge

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still we'd like to thank you for this
day that you blessed us with a beautiful

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day in our county
like thank you uh for

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the position to be able to make a
difference in our communities with a

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mission to be able to make decisions and
best interests are the citizens of our

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district your lord we'd like to thank
you for the many blessings you've sowed

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on us and our family we like thanks to
the blessings it sold on the staff

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created to continue to shine and bless
and guide them to be the best

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interest of this
citizenry in our county we pray for our

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elected officials at the
local state and federal levels and their

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law we pray and would like that special
prayer for those uh suffering from

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mental illness those types of suicide
those who

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are just depressed suffering from
coverage and dear lord i like also

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special prayer for those teenagers who
were in the wreck earlier this week

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thank you for their recovery and
blessing them to get to see another day

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last of all we'd like to continue to
thank you for all the mercy and grace

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that you blessed us with on a day-to-day
basis even when we don't and do not

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realize it
all these blessings and i thank you and

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jesus in our prayers amen amen
pleasure

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through the flag

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one nation under god
indivisible with liberty and justice

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thank you miss marshall
uh first off we've got some folks we

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like to recognize we've got the class of
leadership lounge 2021

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if there's any of those members that's
in the audience if you would please

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stand up and be recognized

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there we go good thank y'all

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you know each class of leadership
lounges always claim that it's the best

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class ever
this class will be able to claim it's

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the longest class ever so
congratulations on staying in there i

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know it's been a tough
uh process

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certainly would covet and everything the
interruptions that you've had but as you

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probably know certainly with the time
that you have had there is a tremendous

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amount that you'll be learning about
this community as you go through that

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process i thank you for doing it i hope
you do enjoy it but as well i would also

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encourage anyone in the community
that really wants to understand how

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their community operates how it
functions then leadership lounge is one

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of the best opportunities that you'll
ever have to be able to get that good

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understanding
it does take a commitment and these

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folks here that you just recognized has
made that commitment as i said

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the longest commitment that's been made
so far so again thank you all i'm glad

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y'all are enjoying

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all right commissioners inside your
package you'll find your work session

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minutes of september the 27th
and your regular session minutes from

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september the 28th as well as the
comprehensive planned stakeholder

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meeting that was also held on the 28th
if there are no additions deletions or

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corrections i'll entertain a motion to
approve the minute mr chairman i'm

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moving through
can we have a motion to approve do we

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have a second
we have a second any discussion on the

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motion
hearing none all in favor signify by eye

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any opposed like sign
hearing none

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the motion carries the minutes are
approved

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we'll move now into our public hearing
items our first case is agenda item five

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this is rec 2021-515

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beaver run subdivision beamless knights
academy road it is currently ea the

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request is for r10
it will have water and sewer and this

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involves 10 acres mr dillard thank you
mr chairman good evening commissioners

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this is again a request to change the
zoning on approximately 10 acres of a

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21-acre tract from its current ea to r10
suburban density access is off famous

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nights academy road and the map
subject property is within the urban

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service area and depicted as a suburban
character area on the future plan

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land use map for conference plan
guidance r10 zoning currently is listed

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as permitted zoning and staff found this
request consistent with the

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comprehensive plan and the planning
commission recommends approval by

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unanimous vote 9-0 before you now is a
concept of the proposed subdivision

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there are 25 lots depicted lot one in
the bottom right hand corner is proposed

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to be used as a common mailbox area in
green space as well as storm water

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detention and the proposed ingress
egress there will be shifted farther to

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the west away from hoi lane to provide
greater separation

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any questions for mr dillard
okay we'll move into the public hearing

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portion of the meeting is there anyone
in the audience that would like to speak

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in opposition to this request
anyone that would like to speak in

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opposition
hearing none is there anyone that would

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like to speak in favor of this request
please come forward and state your name

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and address for the record please

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david 24 22 bemis road val oscar mr
diller did a great presentation but i

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just like got any questions

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any questions for mr glade
thank you mr blood

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okay if there's no one else in support
of this then we'll close the public

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hearing portion of the meeting and i'll
turn it back over to the commissioner

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for your consideration
mostly approval do we have a motion to

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approve do we have a second second i
have a second any discussion

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hearing none i'll call the vote all in
favor signify by i

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any opposed like sign
hearing none motion carries

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agenda item 5b this is rez 2021-16

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farms it is located at 59.99 valve dale
road it is currently ra the request is

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for r1 it will have well inseptics
uh and this involves

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98.95 acres mr dillard thank you mr
chairman again this was requested to

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take the property from its current
residential agricultural zoning to r1

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low destiny residential in order to be
subdivided at a greater density of

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approximately 73 lots according to the
applicant's uh

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letter of intent the preliminary site
plan is attached for your consideration

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with proposed four-bedroom homes with
two and three-car garages and average

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tile sizes of 1900 square feet or more
of the proposed lots approximately 20 or

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greater than one acre minimum and a
community pool common area is proposed

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within the development
subject property does possess road

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frontage on valdel road
overall planning found the request

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inconsistent with the comprehensive plan
and the trc reviewed the application and

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noted any development would require soil
evaluation by the department of public

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health for well and septic and adherence
to supplemental engineering students for

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properties containing or adjacent to
wetlands

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the planning commission recommended
denial of the request by a split vote of

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seven to two
you'll note here on the proposed site

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plan
that i believe lot 60 in the upper

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uh upper third here
middle cul-de-sac is the one proposed

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for the development of a community pool
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there's any questions for mr dillon
you said

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that you've done the uh calculations in
20 lots or larger than one

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yes or based upon this preliminary cycle

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any other questions

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okay hearing on then we'll move into the
public hearing portion of the meeting

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is there anyone in the audience that
would like to speak in opposition to

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this request please come forward and
state your name and address for the

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record please
yes sir my name is chuck dunman i live

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at 5930 valedale road i live directly
across from the proposed development

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i'm not going to waste your time on
track account we can all agree by now

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even using mr greiner's uh mathematical
formula for population growth with

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traffic count 3 916 49.50 and 19
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um 73 one acre lots an acre is roughly
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state law dictates that a well cannot be
within 50 feet of a set tank cannot be

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within 100 feet of a drain field
the septic tank drain field cannot be

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within 10 feet of a building foundation
or property line or within 15 feet of an

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embankment stream or weapon
so that's going to be some interesting

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mathematical calculations taking place
there on that property

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i'm also curious is the perk test going
to be done on all 73 lots prior to

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construction
because i'm wondering how those tests

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would react if
you have active drain fields on adjacent

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lots
and obviously me being on the downhill

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side of this development we all know
what goes downhill

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so i have a concern from that from an
environmental standpoint

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storm water
storm water law dictates that a

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development cannot force more water onto
an adjacent property than what currently

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existed
pre-development up to a 25-year storm

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a 25-year storm is
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period
there are two drainage points

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for the entire 98 acres
one goes through my neighbor's property

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and into a five-acre pond and a 12-acre
pond that four of us property owners

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share
the other drainage point goes through my

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property
when i bought this land in 1994 and went

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through the dnr permitting process to
build a 12 acre pond

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a 36 inch
drainage structure was used to control

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the elevation of our pond
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and and also i use the 36 inch pipe to
go through to access my property across

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the other drainage dish that goes
through my property when valdelle road

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was widened a few years back
that pipe was replaced with a larger

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diameter price without a downstream
study being done

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but so what i want to tell you is that
um when the engineer looks at the

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retention pond and needed to develop
this property they by law have to do

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what is called a downstream analysis
which means he's got to see what is

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downstream from where he's turning this
water loose which means now he has to

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use the 36 inch pipe is his control
he can't use what's at the root

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um the reason this is the law is not
just a quick design criteria i want to

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remind you this is a lifetime commitment
this is a maintenance law this law

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exists as long as the development is
there

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so if this pond ever silts in
and it can no longer retain the 25 year

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storm in the quarters with law
whoever owns that development at that

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point in time whether it's the county or
the developer

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somebody's got to dig out the pond
so i just want you to be aware of that

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scenario
the comprehensive plan

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i came to the public marine
hearing a couple of weeks back and i

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must say i learned a lot from both sides
mr ornstein you stated that everyone

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wants to live in the north end of the
county i understand your statement but

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is that fair to the current landowners
why does the potential buyer's wants

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take precedent over current homeowners
and homestead

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your job is hard but it should never be
hard to be fair

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i have a suggestion that would eliminate
most of your issues with zoning and

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could be done with somewhat of a clear
conscience

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draw a circle three miles around the
city of valdosta city limits and start

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your development which is what the
comprehensive plan basically says

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and when you're within ninety percent of
development expand your circle

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this way you're impacting all taxpayers
of lowndes county equally and that would

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be fair
the way this way it doesn't look like

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you're overburdening one particular sex
sector of the county

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mr griner if the population numbers are
going to be where you predict then this

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report will have to go in this direction
at some point why not now

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the hot comprehensive plan calls for
urban development stay close to urban

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areas and to maintain and protect the
integrity of our rural areas

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a 73 lot subdivision is an urban
development trying to be placed in the

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middle of a rural area
we live eight miles outside of the

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valdosta city limits and one mile south
of the cook county line

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how far do i have to be out to maintain
my rural status

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please be cautious of the precedence you
can set tonight when all of your checks

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and balances the county has implemented
encourage you to deny this request

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thank you for your time
one question one question

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hey
ladies

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how close
how close is this property to a higher

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probably four miles
four miles yes

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okay

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all right is there anyone else would
like to speak in opposition to this

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request
mr please come forward and state your

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name and address for the record
and after this speaker i will allow one

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more speaker
in opposition i think we

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understand where everybody's at
um

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and my driveway is exactly across from
where the kansas city substitution would

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be
and i appreciate what he just said but

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i'm coming from more of my investment as
a citizen of pay higher

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and jim and i've developed two
businesses downtown and the reason why

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we moved to bowdale was the character of
the neighborhood

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and i think part of planning for the
mission is to either enhance the

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character of the neighborhood or to at
least protect it so i just want to read

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something because i'm not eloquent of
just speaking

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uh the situation is a repeat of an
attempt to have the same property zoned

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a year or so ago the arguments against
rezoning have not changed since that

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time to think that this piece of land
will be divided into one acre plots with

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separate wells and septic tanks
additional pressure on schools emergency

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services fire and police departments is
daunting

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we understand that there's a plan to
poor lane bowdale we certainly don't

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want to become another beams road while
a high-ranking school administrator

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supports growth in this area of the
county and so do we

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we have talked with local administrators
and teachers and they're stretched

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belong beyond their limit right now
in addition an environmental study would

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need to be done to find an impact on the
aquifer

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to our knowledge there are no small
houses mobile homes or even slots the

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size of this proposal on valedale road
between mcmillan road to the cook county

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line as pointed out prior
the professional planners which are

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lowndes county employees have posted no
in the last two proposals just drive out

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there and look and there is a reason
people are wanting to come

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but
is that just simply to expand the digest

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zoning is a tool for protection to
property owners or it should be

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this type of zoning
uh degrades will certainly do suggest

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significant damage not only to adjacent
properties to those that are further

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removed down the road on valdez we would
request that the powers in lown county

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retain current zoning on bowdale from
mcmillan road to lowndes county kirkland

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adhere to your master plan and recognize
and follow the advice of your

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professional planners on the lowndes
county staff

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we just don't want politics to be played
on a very serious serious thing thank

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you

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all right one more speaker
please folks just let's not have any

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applause or any comments or anything
like we're trying to do the businesses

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we need to do and i would appreciate it
is there anyone else that would like to

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speak in opposition to this request
john you were halfway down the aisle

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before i even asked so is there anyone
else that would like to speak in

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opposition to this request
all right john

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take your name and address for the
record please hi john quarterman 65 65

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quarterman road and i got to say i'm
gratified to see the planning commission

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and the staff are recommending against
this rezoning

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because this is this proposal is one
logical outcome of what the previous

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commission and previous staff started
back in 2007

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when the commission rezoned for nelson
hill

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and then ran water explicitly up
fouldale to nelsonville

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since then the commission and the staff
have been

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approving more subdivisions pushing the
water lines farther up

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paving roads to connect the subdivisions
and what's going to happen when these

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septic tanks start to fail if if you
unfortunately approve this

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then we'll hear an outcry we've got to
have county water extended all the way

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to this subdivision which will put
further pressure

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on all the landowners nearby because
their taxes will go up

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and um
i can tell you something else that will

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happen if you plug a subdivision like
this in the middle of an agricultural

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and farming area because i've got one
grandfathered in next to my west field

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which we planted in longleaf pine also
back in 2007

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and what we get is every time we burn
those trees somebody from the

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subdivision calls the county fire
department get used to it i'm going to

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call them again i'm going to burn again
this winter

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and they dump their trash over the fence
into my trees because they think it's

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just empty land
and they trespass and they leave trash

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and they poach and they run their
four-wheelers that's what you're gonna

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get if this thing gets approved
this is why character areas matter

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this is why the subdivision should be
denied this is why

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the character area should stay the same
as it is

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this is why there's no need for
an extra million dollar water main to

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close a loop that's already closed
and this is why the county commission

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should be looking forward to preserve
the rural character of the rural parts

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of the
of the county

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not just for this generation of these
people

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but for their descendants seven to seven
generations owned so please deny

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this rezoning thank you

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okay
all right is there anyone in the

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audience that would like to speak in
favor of this request

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please come forward and state your name
and address for the record please

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richard coleman 109 south ashley street
i'm here

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i represent gw farms and um i'll try to
be brief as i can

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um
as we said it's 98 acres and of course

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it'll be 72 acres will actually be
developed in the in the in the front of

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the property
there's approximately 25 acres it'll be

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left and it'll be of course
it's

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the detention pond and it'll be as well
a uh it's undisturbed wetlands and those

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will be there next to the detention pond
and that's in the front

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um
now there also will be 72 lots and not

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73 lots in the back which is lot 60 will
be a pool area dedicated so that lot

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will be taken out
um i will mention a little bit about the

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traffic
on the valedale road when i attended the

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planning commission meeting i did
mention also that this property is on

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the west side of the road
and therefore at least when traffic

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turns coming out of the subdivision
it'll be turning to the right it won't

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be crossing
uh the road at least going to work in

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the mornings
um

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the traffic count i had mentioned at the
planning commission meeting as well that

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there was a the traffic count was three
thousand with a six thousand capacity

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but
i called uh and

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and uh
got a lot of objection to that and i

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called chad macleod
um and just to find out exactly what

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that was and that is actually 4 000
uh 260 uh vehicles a day and he

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explained to me that this 6 000 capacity
is not really

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capacity is not the right word
he said what what he explained to me was

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that 6000
is simply a classification

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and that's a classification that the
county would use then to say okay

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we've got to do something with this uh
road we've either got to uh

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make some turn lanes or widening or stop
lights or whatever

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and of course it is a it is a major uh
he explained to me this is a lot of

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things a major collector
arterial road is what it is so so it's

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not a
it's not a little country road anymore i

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don't believe

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and of course it is moving
toward development lowndes county is

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moving that way it will just me even if
you turn down this development it'll be

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a matter of time before uh that road
will need some will reach that capacity

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i think everybody agrees with that
um

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and if you take 4 000 260 vehicles
and you considered two cars

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for each house
and i'm just

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thinking out loud
you got two cars each house and each

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each car goes to valdosta
every day and comes home every day i

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mean
if you say that then you've got

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a 144 added to the traffic count
and if you drive that into 4260 that's a

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3.38 percent
increase in the traffic on valhalla road

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which is rather
minimal uh i know that's a conclusion

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that
appears to be rather minimal

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i also discussed with chad the
intersection

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at valdel and north in
valdez north valdosta road

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where where the traffic comes in and had
you know stopped by that stoplight and

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he
he said that they're working on that and

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have been working with d.o.t and and you
all probably already know that there's

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gonna instead of that one lane going
across over to um

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uh 41 041 they're gonna they're trying
to figure a way to make it turn to the

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left so there'll be two turning lanes
going into valdosta and he also said

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that right now they're just working on
they've got to figure out how long the

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lanes need to be or whether the media in
there and the budget and all of that

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they all consider getting prices
etcetera

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as far as the water
runoff was an issue

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of course the
detention pond and the natural

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area is intended to keep the water
within the subdivision and it is right

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again no comment please
and if you look at that map it does it

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is kind of in the middle in other words
the houses are all built will be

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developed around that
with that uh

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coming that direction
at any rate um

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so actually i mean
if you if you if you could actually

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maybe make an argument that the
subdivision may

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may solve some of the water runoff
issues on any davis property

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um

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we've heard about septic tanks and and i
didn't hear it tonight but we heard

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earlier that those septic tanks may
contaminate neighbors wells all of that

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and certainly uh
the county uh

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we'll give you about another half a
minute if you can go ahead and wrap it

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up okay all right so
we

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tend to do that i'll make the last uh a
couple one two quick points and that is

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the uh
as everybody knows the inventory for

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housing is very low in lowndes county
and right now i was told it's 60 percent

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lower than normal
and it uh certainly we need housing uh

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there's a great need at moody
um

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and um
we understand that the uh of course is

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another uh
thing that i'd like to say very quickly

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and that is we understand jobs are
important to lowndes county and of

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course if you you've got a lot of jobs
that go to subcontractors if when houses

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are built you've got
painters and you've got framers and

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you've got all of these people
electricians and everybody else

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everybody's aware of and
and in this particular case the

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contractor that will build
uh these houses has built 565 houses in

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the past years with 96 million spent in
lowndes county

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and that's all right so i'll stop
thank you sir

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is there anyone else that would like to
speak in favor of this request

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please come forward and state your name
and address to the record please

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hi i'm steve doherty
i've been listening to what some owner

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or landowners around their site
and hey it's something to think about

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i know that i've lived in an area i live
north of moody moody this grew like

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everything but one thing that i can
stand here and stay or we don't say

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clowns county stop growing don't grow no
more

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we cannot stop lowndes county from
growing it's going to grow

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what are we going to do as people in
lounge camp we're going to use our head

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i heard individuals say about water and
surf

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i think my opinion my son is builder
licensed bill

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i thank our
uh

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special paper uh
down here that proves sexy fantasy well

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wells no that does that i think they do
an excellent job they go each side

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and they do a study on it hey i don't
know what that study is they know who it

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is they give you the approval or
disapproval of that study that is

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something to think about if there's
something wrong with that land then

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they're going to
deny putin well in second tank there all

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right
let's let them

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make that decision for i don't know
what it is i can't stand here and say

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hey no this can't be done they know
let's do what lowndes county needs

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lounge county is growing
let people have jobs let people work

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and let's don't stop browns county works
hey

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anyone can say in my area
i invite anyone to come to my area and

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look it in
i've got 20 acres of land and i'll stand

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here today i'll give it to somebody if
they want to build on me

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i'll give it to them
and that ain't okay i won't see lowndes

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counties grow
and we need to be wise about it and open

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up some subdivisions because there's
people i have called today

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someone's coming in lounge county to
steal a hundred houses this coming year

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and what are you going to do
stay out of browns county no invite him

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to come in because we need the money and
i appreciate it

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okay we'll allow one more speaker is
there anyone else that would like to

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speak in favor of this request
anyone that would like to speak in favor

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hearing none will close the public
hearing portion of the meeting and

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commissioners i'll turn it over to you
for your consideration

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is um
coffee drinks being paid for their

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apartments on the
west west side

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and i had a question i know the ones
representing the farm i just want to

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miss the market just hang on just a
minute that's good

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that's all you need okay i'm sorry then
go ahead i noticed the sign still has

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for sale on the on the sign up there
pending this independence disapproval or

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have anyone else made an offer on the
property that's what i was going to ask

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i do not know that

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did anyone else make an offer on the
property

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yeah
just hold up

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the market we don't need to get in back
in with no i'm closed the public portion

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of the meeting
i want to know basically had anybody

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else been given an opportunity to
purchase the property well i think they

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have it's been for sale for quite a
while

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so yeah
someone's had the opportunity to buy it

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i think you can certainly assume that
i think that sign's been up here for

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quite a while
because i don't know i don't know what

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vital for what purpose is what i've been
trying to think of yeah i can't answer

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that and probably the owner is the only
one that could really answer that

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and i don't think the owners here
we

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we have spent
hours and money on a uldc document

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and on the conference plan
and that's what we need to do is follow

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that lead

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so are you putting that in the form of a
motion don't make that money

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okay so we have a motion to deny
we'll have a second

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motion dies for the lack of a second
okay

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that'll entertain a motion
mr chairman i move we approve the

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v-zoning from ra to
r1

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okay we have a motion
to approve from ra to r1 with the

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um
condition

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that has 20 foot
buffer

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between the road between bowdale road
and the

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first property owners

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okay so we have a motion
do we have a second

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okay
maybe we have a second we have a motion

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in a second i'll call the vote we'll do
it by show of hands all in favor signify

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by raising your right hand

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okay three in opposition
same

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pretty soon
three two three

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okay so the motion cares

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all right we'll move on then to agenda
item 5c

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and this is rec 2021-17
and we'll give everybody a chance

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anybody that wants to leave we'll give
them a chance to do just

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that voted for you scotty you are part
of our fishery

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ma'am
ma'am order please

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come on

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all right we'll move on then to agenda
item 5c and this is rec 2021-17

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jeffrey atkinson
4365

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williams road
it's currently r1 the request is for ra

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it has well and septic and it involves
eight acres mr dillard thank you mr

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chairman commissioners again this
request is from r1 to ra in order for

446
00:33:07,279 --> 00:33:14,559
the applicant to provide dog training
services in a more rural setting which

447
00:33:11,279 --> 00:33:18,720
is only allowed in the ea and ra zonings
subject properties in the urban service

448
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:23,519
area and suburban character area and ra
zoning is listed as recommended zoning

449
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:26,559
trc had no objectionable comments and
the applicant is working through the

450
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:29,440
state department of agricultural
agriculture contains the necessary

451
00:33:28,159 --> 00:33:32,960
licensing and permits to operate a
kindling training facility staff finds a

452
00:33:31,679 --> 00:33:36,399
request consistent with the conference
of plan and the planning commission

453
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:41,200
recommends approval by unanimous vote
9-0

454
00:33:38,399 --> 00:33:44,480
any questions for mr dillard
okay

455
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:47,600
we'll move into the public hearing
portion of the meeting is there anyone

456
00:33:46,159 --> 00:33:52,559
in the audience that would like to speak
in opposition to this request

457
00:33:51,279 --> 00:33:56,000
anyone that would like to speak in
opposition

458
00:33:54,640 --> 00:34:00,080
hearing none is there anyone in the
audience that would like to speak in

459
00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:05,039
favor of this request
anyone that would like to speak in favor

460
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:07,919
hearing them will close the public
hearing part of the meeting and

461
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:13,200
commissioners i'll turn it back over to
you for your consideration mr chairman

462
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:17,119
motion to approve this request
here we have a motion to approve the

463
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:22,240
request do we have a second
second we have a second

464
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:26,399
okay in a discussion on the motion
hearing none i'll call the vote all in

465
00:34:24,079 --> 00:34:32,320
favor signify by eye
any opposed like sign

466
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:39,440
hearing none the motion carries
agenda item 5d is rec

467
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:44,720
2021-18 the villages
located at b on bemis road is currently

468
00:34:42,079 --> 00:34:49,280
a pd and this is a pd site plan
amendment it has water and sewer and

469
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:53,040
this involves three acres mr dillard
thank you mr chairman again this is an

470
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:58,560
amendment to an approved pd site plan
that was approved back in 2020 the

471
00:34:55,280 --> 00:35:03,040
original site plan uh listed 25
single-family homes it has since changed

472
00:35:00,720 --> 00:35:07,680
hands by developers and is now being
requested for 11

473
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:11,119
duplex homes this is consistent with the
current the growth pattern out there as

474
00:35:09,359 --> 00:35:14,480
there are four existing duplexes
immediately to the north as well as a

475
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:17,599
multi-family compound
the subject property is within the urban

476
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:22,000
service area and neighborhood activity
center and pd is a recommended zoning

477
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:25,359
for that character area the trc had no
objectional comments and the glpc

478
00:35:23,839 --> 00:35:30,640
considered it and recommends approval by
a vote of nine to zero

479
00:35:27,359 --> 00:35:33,920
okay any questions for mr dillard okay
we'll move into the public hearing

480
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:38,400
portion of the meeting is there anyone
in the audience would like to speak in

481
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:40,960
opposition to this request
anyone that would like to speak in

482
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:43,599
opposition
hearing none is there anyone in the

483
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:49,040
audience that would like to speak in
favor of this request

484
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:51,680
anyone that would like to speak in faith
hearing none we'll close the public

485
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:54,960
hearing portion of the meeting and
commissioners i'll turn it back over to

486
00:35:53,119 --> 00:35:59,359
you for your consideration
listen to approval if we have a motion

487
00:35:57,040 --> 00:36:03,119
to approve the request and we have a
second

488
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:07,280
of a second any discussion
hearing none i'll call the vote all in

489
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:13,440
favor signify by eye
any opposed like sign

490
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:13,440
hearing none motion carries

491
00:36:13,599 --> 00:36:22,720
agenda item 5e is rec 2021-19
this is the lounge county board of

492
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:28,160
commissioners on behalf of frank
wetherington's living trust

493
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:33,520
4224 bowdale road
currently pd the request is for ra it

494
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:38,320
has well in septic and it involves five
acres mr dillard thank you mr chairman

495
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:42,640
uh this is a pd property that was
rezoned back in 2020 as part of the

496
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:47,920
landing subdivision it was since amended
in 2021 back in july if you recall

497
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:51,359
and the updated site plan excludes this
particular portion as well as the one to

498
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:54,800
the south which will be our next case
you note the property here on the

499
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:57,839
original site plan and has now been
excluded

500
00:36:56,560 --> 00:37:01,280
it is part of a rural residential
character area and the request is to

501
00:36:59,839 --> 00:37:05,359
return it to ra
which was the prior zoning to the pd and

502
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:09,520
to remove the pd restrictions from this
property as it's no longer included in

503
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:13,520
the subdivision trc had no objectionable
comments and the planning commission

504
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:17,839
recommended approval by unanimous vote
any questions from mr dillard

505
00:37:16,079 --> 00:37:20,800
okay we'll move into the public hearing
portion of the meeting is there anyone

506
00:37:19,359 --> 00:37:25,599
in the audience that would like to speak
in opposition to this request

507
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:28,480
any anyone that would like to speak in
opposition

508
00:37:27,119 --> 00:37:33,599
hearing none is there anyone that would
like to speak in favor of this request

509
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:36,960
anyone that would like to speak in favor
hearing none i'll call i'll close the

510
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:41,520
public hearing portion of the meeting
and commissions i'll turn it back over

511
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:45,119
to you for your consideration
mr chairman

512
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:49,680
we have a motion to approve the request
do i have a second

513
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:53,839
we have a second in a discussion
hearing none i'll call the vote all in

514
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:59,599
favor signify by eye
any opposed like sign

515
00:37:56,400 --> 00:38:05,599
hearing none the motion carries
agenda item 5 f is r e z

516
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:09,040
2021-20
this is lounge county board of

517
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:14,320
commissioners on behalf of harold and
gina war

518
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:20,880
located at 4154 valedale road
it's pd the request is for ra it has

519
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:24,720
well in septic and involves 2.9 acres mr
dillon thank you mr chairman again this

520
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:29,760
is the similar to the previous case in
that this subject property is now not

521
00:38:27,599 --> 00:38:35,200
part of the landing subdivision
as a result of july 2021 rezoning case

522
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:40,400
you can see the particular details here
it is now 2.9 acres and again rural

523
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:43,839
residential character area ra is listed
as recommended crc had no additional

524
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:48,160
objectionable comments and the planning
commission again recommended approval

525
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:48,160
plague as well

526
00:38:48,240 --> 00:38:55,040
any questions for mr dillard
hearing none

527
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:57,359
i'll entertain a motion i'm sorry public
hearing

528
00:38:56,079 --> 00:39:01,280
is there anyone in the audience that
would like to speak in opposition to

529
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:04,560
this request
anyone that would like to speak in

530
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:07,599
opposition hearing none is there anyone
that would like to speak in favor of

531
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:11,359
this request
anyone that would like to speak in faith

532
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:16,720
hearing none we'll close the public
hearing and commissioners i'll turn it

533
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:16,720
over to you for your consideration

534
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:24,240
mr chairman i'll move we approve this
request okay we have a motion to approve

535
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:28,320
the request do i have a second
second

536
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:32,400
a second any discussion on the motion
hearing none i'll call the vote all in

537
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:38,480
favor signify by eye
any opposed like sign

538
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:45,920
hearing none the motion carries
agenda item five g is r e z 2021-21

539
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:52,000
this is lounge county board of
commissioners on behalf of valdez states

540
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:57,920
on bowdale road it as well as a this is
a pd amendment it has water and sewer

541
00:39:54,960 --> 00:40:02,000
and this involves 56 acres mr dillard
thanks sir again this is an update to a

542
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:05,200
previously approved site plan uh from a
development standpoint again there were

543
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:09,359
some
issues with covet as far as timelines

544
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:13,839
and normal operation of services
again future is a suburban character

545
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:17,119
area pd is recommended you see the
property does contain wetlands to the

546
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:20,560
south this was the previously approved
site plan you'll note some minor changes

547
00:40:19,119 --> 00:40:24,240
between this plan
and the approved plan or the updated

548
00:40:22,240 --> 00:40:27,119
proposal here presumably in the location
of the green space and a few minor

549
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:30,480
changes to the cul-de-sac industry
infrastructure

550
00:40:28,319 --> 00:40:35,599
the trc had no additional comments and
the planning commission recommended

551
00:40:31,599 --> 00:40:39,280
approval by again unanimous vote 9-0
thank you mr dylan any questions for mr

552
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:41,920
dillon
hearing none we'll move into the public

553
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:45,280
hearing
portion of this agenda item is there

554
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:49,599
anyone in the audience that would like
to speak in opposition to this request

555
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:52,880
anyone that would like to speak in
opposition

556
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:58,240
hearing none is there anyone that would
like to speak in favor to this request

557
00:40:56,079 --> 00:41:01,040
anyone that would like to speak in favor
hearing none i'll close the public

558
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:05,880
hearing portion of the meeting and
commissioners i'll turn it back over to

559
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:05,880
you for your consideration

560
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:17,040
okay we have a motion to approve do we
have a second

561
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:22,800
we have a second any discussion
hearing none all in favor signify by eye

562
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:26,400
any opposed like sign
hearing on motion carries

563
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:34,560
agenda item 6a is the abandonment of a
portion of salem church road known as

564
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:41,920
county road number 68
and wells road known as county road

565
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:46,000
number 68 and county road 69 mr mccloud
yes sir the county has received a

566
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:50,880
request to abandon a portion of salem
church road and wells road

567
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:54,640
the portion of salem church road
begins at the intersection of old

568
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:58,640
valdosta road and goes to the
intersection of wales road

569
00:41:56,720 --> 00:42:05,760
the portion of wales road begins at the
intersection of georgia highway 122

570
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:10,640
to salem church road then north to the
property line of map zero zero zero two

571
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:14,960
parcel zero zero five
owned by the stalwarts

572
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:18,400
georgia statute requires an initial
determination

573
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:22,480
either a that the section of the county
road system has for any reason cease to

574
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:26,400
be used by the public to the extent that
no substantial public

575
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:30,960
purpose is served by it
or b that its removal from the county

576
00:42:28,319 --> 00:42:35,359
road system is otherwise in the best
public interest or both

577
00:42:33,599 --> 00:42:39,040
if the board makes either or both of
these determinations the statute

578
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:42,160
provides for notice to adjoining
property owners

579
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:45,520
notice to the public by newspaper
publication

580
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:50,400
and the public hearing
a few other notes

581
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:54,960
this request came from plb limited
partnership

582
00:42:51,599 --> 00:42:59,520
which now owns the 1228 plus acres which
used to be owned by lakewood farms

583
00:42:58,079 --> 00:43:03,680
the request
according to the request i mean the

584
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:07,200
request was signed by all property
owners that have

585
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:11,440
a property that would have access to
their property off of either road

586
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:16,480
where plb limited partnership has
proposed the roads to be closed

587
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:20,079
currently both wales road and salem
church road are used by citizens in the

588
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:25,359
surrounding area
for public use as a shorter means of

589
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:29,520
travel for vehicles and farm equipment
wells road continues going north into

590
00:43:27,359 --> 00:43:34,720
cook county and eventually ends at old
valdosta road inside of cook county

591
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:37,440
if the commission decides to close wells
row they turn around would have to be

592
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:41,680
constructed
on the north end of the proposed closed

593
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:45,760
location
the entrance to the little river boat

594
00:43:43,599 --> 00:43:50,480
ramp and to the mary turner lynching
memorial landmarker are located at the

595
00:43:48,319 --> 00:43:53,920
intersection of wells road and highway
122.

596
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:58,880
if the commission decides to close wells
road staff would recommend keeping it

597
00:43:55,760 --> 00:44:01,839
open to a point north of highway 122
so the public can still have access to

598
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:05,760
both
staff would also have to research to see

599
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:09,839
where exactly the georgia d.o.t
right-of-way is located at the

600
00:44:07,839 --> 00:44:14,640
intersection to determine the exact
closing location

601
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:18,720
okay commissioners any questions for mr
mccloud

602
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:23,119
all right here you go i'll entertain a
motion just turn our move that we deny

603
00:44:21,119 --> 00:44:27,119
the request based on
it isn't that either one of the criteria

604
00:44:25,119 --> 00:44:30,720
okay we have a motion to deny do we have
a second second we have a second any

605
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:34,839
discussion
hearing on a call for the vote all in

606
00:44:32,720 --> 00:44:41,440
favor signify by
i any opposed like sign

607
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:43,839
hearing none the motion is approved
good night

608
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:51,440
denied i'm sorry
no your motion was possible most

609
00:44:49,359 --> 00:44:54,400
for the dial yeah sorry
who's wrong

610
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:58,240
yeah
i'm dealing with a motion

611
00:44:56,480 --> 00:45:01,920
sorry
all right we'll move on with agenda item

612
00:45:00,319 --> 00:45:06,640
6b
this is the american rescue plan funding

613
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:11,520
application for utility repairs and
expansion mr tower

614
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:15,760
yes sir the american rescue plan
provides for funding for local

615
00:45:13,119 --> 00:45:19,119
municipalities to upgrade their water
and sewer infrastructure

616
00:45:17,599 --> 00:45:22,960
lowndes county in conjunction with
carter and sloop has identified several

617
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:26,480
projects that meet this criteria
the total amount of these projects is

618
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:29,760
ten million five hundred dollars
the ground amount we would be requesting

619
00:45:28,240 --> 00:45:34,560
would be five
million two hundred fifty 000

620
00:45:32,079 --> 00:45:39,200
with a county match of the same amount 5
million 250 000

621
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:44,160
staff recommends approval for carter and
sleep engineer to submit the arp funding

622
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:51,280
application
all right any questions for mr staubel

623
00:45:47,839 --> 00:45:51,280
hearing none i'll entertain a motion

624
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:59,599
mr chairman i'll move we approve the
grant application for

625
00:45:57,359 --> 00:46:04,960
carter and salute engineering
okay we have a motion to approve the

626
00:46:02,240 --> 00:46:10,720
grant application that's estimated by
carter and slough we'll have a second

627
00:46:07,839 --> 00:46:15,520
i have a second in a discussion
hearing none i'll call the vote all in

628
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:21,440
favor signify by eye
any opposed like sign

629
00:46:18,079 --> 00:46:27,200
hearing none the motion carries
agenda item 7a is the improvement to the

630
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:30,319
historic carnegie library museum mr
mccloud

631
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:35,280
yes sir improvements to the historic
carnegie library museum is an approved

632
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:39,680
project for splost eight
improvements including new roof for the

633
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:43,680
facility including structural work
waterproofing the basement area and a

634
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:48,960
little cosmetic work
the bid opening was held september 21st

635
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:52,400
and staff received one bid from
kellerman construction

636
00:46:50,720 --> 00:46:58,160
for 237
168 and 120 days

637
00:46:56,560 --> 00:47:03,920
and
miss lover has the contracts for the

638
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:07,440
contractor in her possession
any questions for mr mccloud

639
00:47:08,240 --> 00:47:16,720
hearing none i'll entertain a motion
okay we have a motion to approve by ms

640
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:19,920
evans have a second mr weiser baker any
discussion

641
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:24,480
hearing none i'll call the vote all in
favor signify by eye

642
00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:31,280
any opposed like sign
here none motion is here it carries

643
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:36,400
agenda item seven i mean agenda item
eight is our final accounting report

644
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:39,680
thank you mr chairman good evening
commissioners

645
00:47:37,599 --> 00:47:43,040
over the past couple of months in
accordance with the direction the

646
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:48,079
commission has given staff to explore
opportunities for broadband expansion

647
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:51,599
here in lowndes county we have met with
several providers

648
00:47:49,599 --> 00:47:55,520
that there is arp funding that is
available through the state

649
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:59,359
the grant deadline was moved to the end
of october

650
00:47:56,960 --> 00:48:03,839
for that and in all of those discussions
that also included jason shaw our public

651
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:07,359
service commission representative um the
most viable

652
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:12,079
grant request that we have received is
from winstream and so staff would like

653
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:16,240
to request permission to move forward as
the lead applicant with winstream this

654
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:18,960
is no financial obligation on part of
the county

655
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:23,920
but we have looked at their plan
extensively they've used dca's map for

656
00:48:22,319 --> 00:48:27,680
those without service and those
underserved which means they don't have

657
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:32,240
enough broadband to actually be able to
to get out or for their internet to work

658
00:48:29,359 --> 00:48:39,359
very well the the winstream plan does
include 18 900 locations at a total cost

659
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:45,040
of 36.3 million the grant request is for
16.2 million and then one stream plans

660
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:49,520
an investment of 20.1 million there's
also a good not quite as efficient

661
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:55,280
proposal from hargre
for 10 300 locations at a cost of 54

662
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:58,960
million and they plan to split that if
awarded

663
00:48:56,480 --> 00:49:02,559
27 to 27.
the positive thing mediacom also has a

664
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:07,680
proposal we have not seen that the
positive thing for us is that if any of

665
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:10,720
these are approved we are in good shape
these are all great providers their

666
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:15,280
plans are good we've looked at all of
them but the more specific request is

667
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:19,760
from winstream for the county to be the
lead applicant on that grant if you all

668
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:23,280
have no objection
any objection to lowndes county taking

669
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:28,000
the lead
no no this is extremely important to

670
00:49:25,359 --> 00:49:28,000
this community

671
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:31,839
thank you commissioner

672
00:49:34,240 --> 00:49:39,599
thank you mr chairman we'll take care of
that on october the 5th um staff along

673
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:44,000
with the county attorney and the
chairman attended an accg local option

674
00:49:42,240 --> 00:49:48,240
sales tax meeting
the end result is that we are putting a

675
00:49:46,079 --> 00:49:52,319
plan in place to gather the research
data that we will need to formulate our

676
00:49:50,240 --> 00:49:56,559
proposal related to local option sales
tax and at your february retreat we will

677
00:49:54,800 --> 00:50:00,400
have an in-depth report for you on that
so that you can give us some direction

678
00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:03,440
and we'll be ready to move forward also
the regional commission's annual

679
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:09,520
appreciation dinner for elected
officials in adel is on october the 26th

680
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:14,400
which would be the normal day of our
next meeting and so the chairman has

681
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:18,319
asked staff to move the regular meeting
to that monday evening so we would have

682
00:50:16,240 --> 00:50:22,880
the work session on monday morning at 8
30 and then the meeting on monday at 5

683
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:27,200
30 so that you all are all available to
attend

684
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:30,160
the the dinner in adel also flu shots a
couple of you have asked about that i

685
00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:33,359
checked with hr and they will be
available for county employees at

686
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:38,000
various locations to meet any of our
shift requirements on october the 26th

687
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:42,160
and 28th and then we will also
leave that open at airport medical until

688
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:45,200
the end of november for anyone who would
like to stop by

689
00:50:43,839 --> 00:50:48,960
also we're putting together a
communication for the employees i think

690
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:53,839
there'll be some skeptic skepticism
maybe some confusion about the vaccine

691
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:58,160
versus flu shots and so we're putting
together some faqs to hopefully clear

692
00:50:56,000 --> 00:51:01,200
that up also the lounge county sheriff's
office and the vassal police department

693
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:04,880
have moved trick-or-treating until
october the 30th so you all might get

694
00:51:03,119 --> 00:51:08,640
some questions about that it seems to be
the talk of the town right now

695
00:51:07,119 --> 00:51:12,880
so let me know if there's any problems
there and then also i just want to thank

696
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:17,200
everyone for the river cleanup this past
saturday some of you participated

697
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:21,760
certainly engineering and
megan with public information were

698
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:25,280
extremely involved there we had a great
turnout thanks to walls certainly the

699
00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:29,440
quarterman's were a great part of that
and we appreciate their partnership

700
00:51:27,599 --> 00:51:32,640
and we look forward to the river cleanup
next year

701
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:37,760
and planning for the holiday season has
officially become so with the work at

702
00:51:35,839 --> 00:51:40,880
the historic courthouse we're planning
an alternative for

703
00:51:39,359 --> 00:51:45,119
our tree lighting this year will be at
the city and we're looking at some

704
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:50,000
changes in our decorations there
good thank you great report as always we

705
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:56,000
appreciate it
all right we uh we do have some citizens

706
00:51:52,880 --> 00:52:01,559
wishing to be heard our first citizen is
sandra jones

707
00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:01,559
please come forward

708
00:52:04,559 --> 00:52:10,480
and state your
name and address for the record ms john

709
00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:18,960
good evening
my name is mrs sandra d s jones i live

710
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:23,280
at 49.40 copies rolled in hey howard
georgia

711
00:52:21,359 --> 00:52:29,839
first of all i would like to thank the
board for allowing me to be heard

712
00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:36,240
i'm here am i requesting that
taxpayers 65 and older be exempt from

713
00:52:32,720 --> 00:52:41,599
paying school taxes in lowndes county
i respectfully request that you

714
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:46,960
contact the lowndes county
and city school boards

715
00:52:43,839 --> 00:52:51,280
and discuss this issue with them a round
table discussion

716
00:52:48,720 --> 00:52:56,720
on this matter along with a few
taxpaying citizens

717
00:52:53,359 --> 00:53:00,720
could get this issue resolved
we have seniors

718
00:52:58,559 --> 00:53:06,160
in lowndes county
that are making choices

719
00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:12,160
whether to pay taxes
or purchase food

720
00:53:08,240 --> 00:53:12,160
a much needed medication

721
00:53:12,319 --> 00:53:17,599
is there resolution in place
to assist

722
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:22,880
citizens
that are experiencing hardships

723
00:53:20,319 --> 00:53:29,119
concerning paying their taxes
and who is in charge of assisting them

724
00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:33,040
most seniors are not looking for a
handout

725
00:53:30,240 --> 00:53:37,440
but for a handoff
i realize

726
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:41,520
our outstanding school systems have
budgets

727
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:49,599
that needs to be considered
but i also ask that you consider

728
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:56,800
the needs the needs of our seniors
you as a board can provide that for them

729
00:53:53,359 --> 00:54:04,240
by finding a way to exempt our seniors
65 and older from paying school taxes

730
00:54:01,599 --> 00:54:10,400
our seniors 65 and older
need your compassion

731
00:54:06,240 --> 00:54:12,880
and action on this matter
when can i

732
00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:17,359
expect
a response concerning my request

733
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:23,119
one of the things that i looked at when
i was thinking about coming before this

734
00:54:19,359 --> 00:54:26,720
board i looked at your mission statement
and it's stated to provide an efficient

735
00:54:25,599 --> 00:54:30,800
effective
and responsive local government to all

736
00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:35,920
citizens
of lowndes county while maintaining the

737
00:54:33,119 --> 00:54:40,400
financial strength to meet any
contingency

738
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:44,400
i ask you to please consider our seniors
i have interviewed several seniors

739
00:54:42,799 --> 00:54:48,400
and a lot of them are having difficult
times at this time like i said buying

740
00:54:46,720 --> 00:54:55,680
food
purchasing much needed medication

741
00:54:51,599 --> 00:54:59,200
and you are our elected officials
sometimes i feel like we cast the

742
00:54:57,280 --> 00:55:02,640
seniors out
but let's do something for them

743
00:55:01,599 --> 00:55:07,440
please
think about them i had one woman that i

744
00:55:05,119 --> 00:55:12,319
interviewed she told me this
she said since my husband passed away

745
00:55:10,319 --> 00:55:15,920
i don't get half of the money that we
used to get when he was alive

746
00:55:14,240 --> 00:55:20,799
she said i had my separate tank to go
out and i had to buy a freezer

747
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:25,440
she said i don't have any extra money
to pay taxes

748
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:30,000
so please y'all think about those people
that have been paying taxes for 20 30

749
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:34,400
and 40 and 50 years
and now they're not receiving the extra

750
00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:39,040
income but taxes are going over
let's do something for them

751
00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:42,880
and you all have the power to do that
get with the city

752
00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:46,640
you know get with the county and discuss
with them what they can do with lowering

753
00:55:44,799 --> 00:55:49,920
their budget you know when i was growing
up i just heard my granddaddy so you

754
00:55:47,839 --> 00:55:53,119
need to trim the fat
so maybe they can trim some fat so we

755
00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:55,760
can help some of these seniors 65 and
older

756
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:58,480
cut your budget because if the money is
not there then you can't make these

757
00:55:57,119 --> 00:56:03,040
extra purchases
but the seniors don't have that luxury

758
00:56:00,799 --> 00:56:06,079
they don't have the money
so think about those that are 65 and

759
00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:10,480
older
i'm getting there i'm not here yet i'm

760
00:56:08,240 --> 00:56:15,359
just speaking on their behalf but please
think about that

761
00:56:12,079 --> 00:56:18,559
we have a responsibility to our seniors
think about who's been paying their

762
00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:23,200
taxes
one lady told my husband little to be 92

763
00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:27,040
years old and he was still paying taxes
oh no no no

764
00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:30,880
a change needs to be made
and i thank you all for listening to me

765
00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:35,680
i really do and i hope you have a
wonderful evening

766
00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:39,599
and where can i hear from you all
oh i'll get with you a little bit later

767
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:42,960
miss jones we don't normally have
dialogue

768
00:56:40,799 --> 00:56:46,319
oh that's fine later it's fine and just
to know that you're thinking about what

769
00:56:44,079 --> 00:56:49,119
i actually did opportunity but not stay
in touch with me okay i appreciate that

770
00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:52,400
and i appreciate it coming from the
commissioner that means a lot the

771
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:55,440
chairman that's in a lot thank y'all
very much thank you

772
00:56:56,640 --> 00:57:03,119
all right our
next citizen wishing to be heard is

773
00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:03,119
gretchen forderman

774
00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:08,799
please come forward and state your name
and address for the record please

775
00:57:11,599 --> 00:57:18,400
my name is gretchen quarterman and i
live at 6565 quarterman road um in hay

776
00:57:16,319 --> 00:57:22,640
hira and i just want to say uh like
paige did thank you very much for an

777
00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:26,400
excellent trash pickup at the rivers and
um throughout the city uh we picked up

778
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:31,040
i'm still waiting on the final uh
tonnage but quite a bit of trash and we

779
00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:35,520
had a lot of people helping out and it's
really awesome and the by keeping trash

780
00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:39,359
out of the rivers then we have more
people who want to come and use them

781
00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:43,920
thank you for not closing wells road
because that's when a very important

782
00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:47,280
location for the water trails and we
appreciate that so i just want to say

783
00:57:45,359 --> 00:57:50,720
thank you very much and we look forward
to doing it again thanks

784
00:57:51,839 --> 00:57:58,400
our next speaker is john quarterman but
i think john your issue was taken care

785
00:57:56,160 --> 00:57:58,400
of

786
00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:09,040
i'm sorry
oh yes but i want to thank you as well

787
00:58:07,520 --> 00:58:13,680
good thank you
for several things obviously for voting

788
00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:18,319
not to close wells road thank you very
much

789
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:22,000
and also at trash cleanup um
there were a couple of things that were

790
00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:25,359
announced that i hope you don't mind if
i repeat

791
00:58:23,359 --> 00:58:29,520
one is i'd like to thank chairman and
the mayor of valdosta for saying they're

792
00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:34,160
continuing to work on purchasing the
land at the little river confluence for

793
00:58:31,839 --> 00:58:40,480
eventual use as a nature park and for
treatment boat ramp and for agreeing

794
00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:44,079
that january 29th that saturday will be
the chairman and mayor's battle from

795
00:58:42,319 --> 00:58:47,680
truthville boat ramp
down to

796
00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:51,280
spook bridge and today the wagondale
company agreed they're good with that so

797
00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:55,119
that's on
so that's a good thing

798
00:58:53,359 --> 00:58:58,079
and i wrote up this nice letter about
wells row but now i don't have to talk

799
00:58:57,119 --> 00:59:01,680
about it
so

800
00:58:59,599 --> 00:59:05,920
also just one other thing we're making
some progress with finding sources of

801
00:59:04,079 --> 00:59:10,160
trash upstream
like 80 percent of valdosta is drained

802
00:59:08,319 --> 00:59:14,079
by sugar creek
and a lot of that stuff is coming out of

803
00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:17,359
parking lots on saint augustine road and
ashley street

804
00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:21,440
one of the major parking lot owners
stafford at st augustine in high tower

805
00:59:19,359 --> 00:59:24,799
creek has actually modified their
contracts with their contractors so

806
00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:28,880
they're keeping it much cleaner so they
should be less coming downstream which

807
00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:32,480
means less washing down to
the land between the rivers below troop

808
00:59:30,559 --> 00:59:35,920
belt boat ramp so that's good too thank
you

809
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:41,119
thank you
any comments questions

810
00:59:39,040 --> 00:59:44,480
mister thank you for what you do i i
certainly is one appreciate it

811
00:59:44,960 --> 00:59:50,000
motion to adjourn we're adjourned it's
been a long night