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your worship we're good to go for 7 p.m

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we're live now

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i can get the remainder of council to

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come on screen we can start things right

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off at seven o'clock

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with that welcome at seven o'clock now

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so welcome everyone welcome to this the

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58th session of council

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on monday november the 22nd it is now 7

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p.m i welcome everyone this is a virtual

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meeting so i remind everyone that

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even though it is a virtual meeting the

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municipal conflict of interest act the

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council's rules of procedures code of

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conduct and other pertinent legislation

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apply as if this were an in-person

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meeting

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as it is an in-person media virtual

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if any member of council's connection to

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the internet or to this meeting is lost

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we will pause for a few minutes to allow

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that member to connect and uh

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if they cannot connect within a few

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assuming we still have quorum we will

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continue the meeting out anyways

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with that as i say the meeting has been

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called to order right there was no

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closed session today

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so we shall move into the playing of the

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national anthem i will ask everyone to

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turn off their screens while the clerk

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prepares that

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welcome we acknowledge that we are being

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hosted on the ancestral lands of the

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haudenosaunee mississaugi and omami

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winini peoples

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we acknowledge and welcome the presence

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of all indigenous peoples including the

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metis inui and other first nations from

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across this vast land who also makes

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this place home

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the lands we are on today are recognized

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in the two row wampum ditched with one

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spoon treaty treaty 27 and the crawford

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purchase

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once again welcome ladies and gentlemen

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i'm just a

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housekeeping item you'll note that we

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have an open forum and then two public

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meetings and i do note that we have

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assuming those are for the public

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meetings uh so i would remind people

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that the first section is the open forum

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where we invite people

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to we all we set aside the first 15

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minutes for the open forum and any

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individual may address council to voice

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an opinion on subjects of municipal

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concern

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excluding matters subject to the public

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meeting which is the second piece

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notices hereby provided that under the

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authority of the municipal act and in

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accordance with the munici ontario's

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municipal freedom of information and

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protection of privacy act all

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information provided for or at our open

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forum public meetings or other public

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process are considered part of the

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the list township meetings are being

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held virtually and anyone wishing to

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speak

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in this open forum

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is asked to contact the township clerk

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to register in advance to make those

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with that i will ask if there's anyone

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in the audience who wishes to speak in

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the open forum not with regard to the

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items coming shortly within the public

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madam clerk do we have anyone that

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pre-registered

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uh no i don't believe we did uh your

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worship i see one hand up from uh jeanne

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speak up so i'll just allow or to oops

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if this whodayson wishes there she is

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welcome mr jason can you hear me

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welcome mr jason if you if you may be

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able to hear me but you're currently

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muted so we can't hear you

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if you can unmute

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might be the same family hi joe hi gene

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if you can hear me and you can unmute

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you are welcome to speak to the open

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we can see your hands

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but we can't hear you at this point

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and now we have joe hudson

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madame clerk is there something we can

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do to help them unmute

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um i've asked

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all i can do is ask for them to unmute

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we appear to be having some technical

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glitch i'm sure the houdaisians are

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wishing to speak

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but at this point we can't hear them

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uh if they would like to email i can try

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and set them up uh to see what the issue

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is if they'd like to uh email info at

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we can try and get them working

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were able to hear that message

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perhaps if we could get them to

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take down their raised hand

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and mr mrsudasan have taken down their

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raised hand which means i believe they

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are here and present and wishing to

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speak but unable to to unmute

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with that

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if they've

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and they're now turning off their uh

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their screens they're disconnecting

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so i'm assuming i'm going to have to

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assume that they're going to connect to

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the clerk through the info at

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loyalist.ca

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and i do see another hand here for mr

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peter field if you'd like to come on

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perhaps the huday sins that will be able

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arrange their connection and we'll come

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to them secondly mr peter field like to

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come forward

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mr field can you hear us

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we can hear you can you hear us we can

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hear you thank you for the record can i

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get you to state your name and address

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please uh peter field one teagan court

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welcome sir ontario

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thank you welcome sir

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i'd like to say good to see you again

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i can't see you right this moment uh but

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if you have something to uh bring to

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council we would um well i'm not sure

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when the clerk said that there was no um

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people for the

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to speak i thought we were supposed to

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be on the agenda tonight as the

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agricultural society

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uh under delegations we do have ms

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kimberly representing the uh odessa

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agricultural society yes florence is

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here with me okay that's fine we can

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wait till then okay that is a formal

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delegation so she will be able to speak

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at that time okay thank you okay thank

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has uh mr dason or mr hudayson been able

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to connect

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i can see gene hudayson's connecting

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if you're able to take it off mute we

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would be glad to hear what you've got to

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unless we can find another way to do

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this i don't think we're going to be

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able to hear mr and mrs whodayson's

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comments this evening

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giving trying to give them a little more

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time to connect or to figure out how to

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unmute is there anyone else in the

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audience who wishes to speak during the

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open forum

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not regarding the items under the the

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i'm seeing no other hands

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unfortunately i can't

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seem to connect with uh

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mr mrs davison right now

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and hopefully they will be able to

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connect with us

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and provide that information whatever

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they wish to to bring forward uh through

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the clerk madam clerk

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we are uh monitoring the info uh email

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so we'll just if we can connect we will

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try and get them on

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thank you

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if they are able to reconnect

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at that time i will ask council if uh

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depending on where we are in the council

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meeting if they will allow that to uh

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to you know suspend the rules of

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procedure to allow them to present

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because they have made an effort to

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present this evening

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with that we will move forward if

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there's no one else for the open forum

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and we are moving into the public

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the first public meeting

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with regard to 1315 main street odessa

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from nrk development

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public meeting is being held in

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accordance with the provisions of

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section 1715 3412 and 5120 of the

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planning act rso 1990 to consider an

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amendment to the loyalist township

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official plan amendment to the

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comprehensive zoning bylaw

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2001-38 as amended and the plan of

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subdivision

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proposed subdivision seeks approval for

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a draft plan

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draft plan of subdivision consisting of

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i'm going to skip over that part you can

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all read that okay

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council shall hear in person or by his

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or her counsel solicitor or agent any

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person who who claims to be affected by

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this application

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all right i will first turn to the

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director

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the director does the staff have

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anything to add to the

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report that we have before us at the

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time at this time

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uh through you you worship uh there's

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nothing to add to the report no uh but i

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believe the applicant's consultant uh is

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presenting tonight so if your uh

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worship agrees uh it probably should be

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the next presentation

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absolutely the applicant's consultant

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for this is

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mr cunningham

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is the is the applicant or the

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applicant's consultant available to

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speak to us

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and we have ms tucker yes

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good evening council marin council my

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name is tracy tucker i'm with ibi group

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and i'm going to

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present uh

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application before you for 315 main

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uh i just need to share my screen

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so we're here today about the proposed

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resident potential development at 315

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main street odessa

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there we go uh so it is located at the

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corner of county road to shane street

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and hensey street

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um with

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frontage on all three streets

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um right now the lands are currently

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vacant with residential on the

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east

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sorry the west south and

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vacant looks like farmland and

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agricultural on the north and

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north of the site

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so currently the lands have a low

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density residential designation on them

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and

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the proposal is to

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move them to a medium density

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residential designation to prevent the

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development as proposed

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so previously back in 2019 we had

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submitted an application for draft plan

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of subdivision

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which included medium density town

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houses in this area in this area a

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public right-of-way which would have

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gone from hensey street to shane street

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and a medium density apartment building

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once we received comments back from

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staff and feedback from the original

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public meetings

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we have revised the plan and we've

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put townhouse units fronting straight on

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to hensey and shane street

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there's 14

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town houses as well as a 22 unit

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apartment building which will have

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frontage on

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highway 2 as well as on

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shane street

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the there is no will be no access from

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highway 2 as

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uh it's not permitted at this time and

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then there's also a stormwater

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management pond proposed which will

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help with all the runoff

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or potential runoff from the site

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controlling it before it goes out into

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the existing ditch system

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so currently the low the official plan

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that

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permits low density residential which is

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single detached dwelling semi-detached

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dwellings

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with a total density of 31 units per

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hectare

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um and the

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medium density permits the low density

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uses triplexes cluster row housing

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street fronting townhouses low-rise

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apartments to a maximum

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60 units per hectare with a maximum of

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four stories

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and we are proposing to put

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street fronting townhouses a low-rise

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apartment which is three stories in

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height and a

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total net density for the entire site of

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48.4 units per net hectare

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which removes is

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basically the lands that are being

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developed with residential so doesn't

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include the lands of the storm water

360
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management pond

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in that calculation

362
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so originally this is what was proposed

363
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for the site there was 24

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units in the apartment building

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and there was

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16 units with frontage onto the proposed

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public road

368
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so we are now proposing a 22 unit

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apartment building

370
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same footprint we're just reducing the

371
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number of units in it uh there's a lot

372
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more amenity space we've provided

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children's amenity space

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and we've also

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included 14 uh townhouses which are

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i believe they were approximately

377
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2100 square feet in size

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two stories in height

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so the proposed

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apartment building hasn't changed in

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terms of the looks of it

382
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although this will all be dealt with the

383
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actual details of which will be dealt

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with through the site plan process in

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the future once

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approved

387
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so currently the lands are a residential

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type five zone

389
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which permits the existing

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which existing permissions permit street

391
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fronting townhouses and the low-rise

392
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apartment dwelling

393
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this doesn't align with the official

394
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plan um

395
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which

396
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doesn't permit these uses in the low

397
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density use but the zoning permits them

398
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as of right

399
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um so we were proposing to

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modify the existing zoning bylaw to

401
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permit these uses

402
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including some lot area

403
00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:40,880
uh reductions minor reductions are still

404
00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:44,000
meeting all the setbacks with exception

405
00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:47,039
of the exterior side yard on one unit

406
00:20:47,039 --> 00:20:49,440
and the front yards we've asked for it

407
00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:51,120
to be six meters which accommodates the

408
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driveway as well as four and a half

409
00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:54,960
meters to the house so your driveway

410
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your garage face is actually pushed back

411
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from the front of the house

412
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and then

413
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through staff we were asked to

414
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propose an amendment to the

415
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maximum

416
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lot coverage for the internal units to

417
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allow for future sheds to be placed in

418
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these rear yards

419
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um

420
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so we've gone up to 51 there the corner

421
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and end units would still comply with

422
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the additional five percent for the

423
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sheds

424
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and we've also provided additional rear

425
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yard space

426
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from what the current by-law proposes

427
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so because we were requesting amendments

428
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to the zoning bylaw that triggered the

429
00:21:33,360 --> 00:21:37,110
official plan amendment

430
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and the

431
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for the apartment building were

432
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requesting a reduction of the front yard

433
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from seven and a half meters to six

434
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meters

435
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and uh parking to be located 1.5 meters

436
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from the street line and this is to

437
00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:54,159
capture a pinch point at the north what

438
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northeast corner of the site

439
00:21:56,559 --> 00:21:58,400
most parking will be outside of the

440
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three meters with exception of the one

441
00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:04,630
pinch point on site

442
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so we have heard some public concerns

443
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about the

444
00:22:08,159 --> 00:22:10,720
about flooding the increases to density

445
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and the traffic that will be generated

446
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from this site

447
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um

448
00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:16,400
the flood

449
00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:18,000
flooding and drainage we do understand

450
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that is an existing ongoing issue in

451
00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:21,520
this area

452
00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:24,159
due to the bedrock and the

453
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lack of storm source so the ditches have

454
00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:30,159
been seen to overflow our site does have

455
00:22:30,159 --> 00:22:32,320
to implement a stormwater management

456
00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:34,240
pond which will

457
00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:36,159
address any flooding issues that would

458
00:22:36,159 --> 00:22:37,919
have resulted from this proposed

459
00:22:37,919 --> 00:22:39,600
development

460
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so

461
00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:41,919
we will be containing and we have to

462
00:22:41,919 --> 00:22:45,120
contain pre pre to post so we have to

463
00:22:45,120 --> 00:22:47,120
contain all flood

464
00:22:47,120 --> 00:22:49,440
and all water before it goes back into

465
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the into the municipal ditches

466
00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:53,280
to the same extent that it would be

467
00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:56,400
today and we've actually i believe

468
00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:58,159
made it better with because we've

469
00:22:58,159 --> 00:22:59,840
increased the size of the pond to allow

470
00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:01,120
for additional

471
00:23:01,120 --> 00:23:04,960
storage on site in those major events

472
00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:07,360
the increase in density on the site so

473
00:23:07,360 --> 00:23:08,400
as

474
00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:10,320
previously noted the zoning bylaw

475
00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:12,400
actually permitted the uses of the

476
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medium density

477
00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,640
and would have permitted

478
00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:18,799
the uses as of right

479
00:23:18,799 --> 00:23:20,640
it's a minor increase in density we're

480
00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:22,559
not actually asking for an amendment by

481
00:23:22,559 --> 00:23:25,200
going to the medium density

482
00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:26,240
um

483
00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:28,000
previously we had asked for an

484
00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:30,789
additional

485
00:23:30,799 --> 00:23:32,960
density increase but we've now reduced

486
00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:36,000
the number of units on site and we are

487
00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:39,280
were allocated previously to have 36

488
00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:41,120
units for servicing and that's what we

489
00:23:41,120 --> 00:23:43,679
have proposed on site now

490
00:23:43,679 --> 00:23:47,360
and the increase in traffic as a

491
00:23:47,360 --> 00:23:49,360
we have done a traffic study for this

492
00:23:49,360 --> 00:23:51,039
site

493
00:23:51,039 --> 00:23:52,640
and it found that the

494
00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:54,559
increase in traffic would be

495
00:23:54,559 --> 00:23:55,840
not

496
00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:58,240
negatively impacting the existing

497
00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:03,190
traffic flows in the area

498
00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:05,360
so again this is our revised plan so we

499
00:24:05,360 --> 00:24:07,360
did the storm water management pond is

500
00:24:07,360 --> 00:24:10,000
here and it is approximately

501
00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:14,320
uh 1200 square meters and

502
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:16,000
the amount so we have amenity space now

503
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,159
across the entire

504
00:24:18,159 --> 00:24:20,720
frontage here as well as each of these

505
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:23,919
townhouses have a significantly

506
00:24:23,919 --> 00:24:25,600
large backyard

507
00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:26,480
for

508
00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:30,630
what a townhouse would normally have

509
00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:32,880
and the this is for the proposed draft

510
00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:35,039
plan of subdivision

511
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uh so there's three blocks which would

512
00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:38,960
include the three the three townhouses

513
00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:40,799
as well as the

514
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block for the

515
00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:43,200
um

516
00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:45,440
apartment building and there's also a

517
00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:49,039
road widening of three meters and

518
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about three meters on both shane street

519
00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:53,039
and hensey street which is part of why

520
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we've asked for the additional

521
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setback to six meters from seven and a

522
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half for the apartment building because

523
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we have given a three meter widening so

524
00:25:01,279 --> 00:25:02,640
we are

525
00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:04,640
significantly set back we're still nine

526
00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:06,559
meters from where the road currently is

527
00:25:06,559 --> 00:25:08,799
today and that road widening

528
00:25:08,799 --> 00:25:14,070
will likely just be grass in this area

529
00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:15,440
in the future if the city or the

530
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:18,080
township does choose to actually widen

531
00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:20,400
this road or urbanize this road

532
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:22,240
there may be sidewalks located within

533
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:23,760
that area but for now it would just

534
00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:28,390
remain as is today

535
00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:32,149
and that's our presentation thank you

536
00:25:32,159 --> 00:25:34,240
thank you very much miss tucker

537
00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:35,840
and if i can get you to stop sharing

538
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your screen first

539
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:38,880
yep i'm just trying to find the button

540
00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:51,029
to do that

541
00:25:51,039 --> 00:25:59,430
why is it not

542
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:00,480
there we go

543
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:01,840
thank you very much

544
00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:04,400
and so thank you for that presentation

545
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:06,799
and uh before i go to the public i will

546
00:26:06,799 --> 00:26:08,480
ask council if they have any questions

547
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:10,640
of you at this time

548
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:13,200
council any questions for the consultant

549
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:17,430
for this project

550
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:19,840
i'm seeing none

551
00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:22,559
then we'll move to the the open part

552
00:26:22,559 --> 00:26:24,400
this is a public meeting we would ask

553
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:27,279
any attendees who wish to speak to the

554
00:26:27,279 --> 00:26:31,039
315 main street odessa application uh to

555
00:26:31,039 --> 00:26:34,640
please use the raise hand signal

556
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:36,640
and the clerk will

557
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:39,840
in some sequence invite you in and ask

558
00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:43,750
you to speak

559
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:51,430
hey mr cunningham i will allow to speak

560
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:53,520
welcome mr cunningham if you can hear me

561
00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:55,679
i would ask that you unmute and then

562
00:26:55,679 --> 00:26:58,159
give us your full name and address and

563
00:26:58,159 --> 00:27:01,600
then uh tell us your thoughts

564
00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:04,960
uh doug cunningham i live a country club

565
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,120
drive in bath ontario

566
00:27:07,120 --> 00:27:09,520
and i'm here regarding the 496 main

567
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:11,360
street that's what i would like to talk

568
00:27:11,360 --> 00:27:12,159
about

569
00:27:12,159 --> 00:27:14,080
okay that that will be the second public

570
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:16,640
meeting so i'll ask the clerk to uh

571
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:18,799
let you back into the uh the waiting

572
00:27:18,799 --> 00:27:21,440
area if you will okay thanks and we'll

573
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:24,480
bring you in at that time

574
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:26,480
adam clerk are there others here to

575
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:29,360
speak specifically to the 315 main

576
00:27:29,360 --> 00:27:35,590
street odessa application

577
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:48,389
let's see mr hilson

578
00:27:48,399 --> 00:27:51,279
and i see that bob hilson has come in

579
00:27:51,279 --> 00:27:53,360
again mr hilson welcome and we ask that

580
00:27:53,360 --> 00:27:55,840
you uh unmute i think you have already

581
00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:58,080
and uh tell us your your name and

582
00:27:58,080 --> 00:27:59,760
address and then share your thoughts

583
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:00,880
with us

584
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,440
name is robert hillson

585
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:06,399
address is one five one manor road bath

586
00:28:06,399 --> 00:28:08,640
ontario

587
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:12,480
my question for the present presentation

588
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:14,399
person is

589
00:28:14,399 --> 00:28:19,279
not uh with regard to the storm water uh

590
00:28:19,279 --> 00:28:21,520
management pond

591
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:22,559
is

592
00:28:22,559 --> 00:28:23,600
i think

593
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:26,799
something that was lacking is

594
00:28:26,799 --> 00:28:30,159
not necessarily the area of the pond but

595
00:28:30,159 --> 00:28:33,120
the volume of the pond that's what i

596
00:28:33,120 --> 00:28:35,600
would like to have answered

597
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:38,240
okay mr are you able to provide that

598
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:41,830
information

599
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:44,559
if you give me one second i can pull up

600
00:28:44,559 --> 00:28:48,870
the report to get that information

601
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:51,120
hold on for one moment mr hilson

602
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:52,240
that's fine

603
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:54,080
do you have any other questions while

604
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:55,679
miss tucker is pulling that information

605
00:28:55,679 --> 00:28:58,640
out no i do not okay

606
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:00,320
uh i do note that there are a couple

607
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,240
other people that are have their hands

608
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,799
up we will get to uh i believe it's mr

609
00:29:04,799 --> 00:29:07,760
kowalski and mr peacock uh in a moment

610
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:09,520
as soon as we've completed with mr

611
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:49,590
hillson

612
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:51,039
i just need to look

613
00:29:51,039 --> 00:29:54,559
i am still looking for it

614
00:29:54,559 --> 00:29:56,080
again perhaps you can share that in a

615
00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:57,679
few moments if you're still looking for

616
00:29:57,679 --> 00:30:00,320
it and mr hilson if you have no other

617
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:02,640
questions i will move forward and ask

618
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:04,799
miss tucker to answer that question uh

619
00:30:04,799 --> 00:30:07,039
in a few moments when she's able to but

620
00:30:07,039 --> 00:30:09,520
that would allow us to move on to uh the

621
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:11,279
other people who wish to speak to that

622
00:30:11,279 --> 00:30:13,200
is that all right with you mr hilson oh

623
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,679
yes that's fine in fact uh i think it's

624
00:30:15,679 --> 00:30:18,000
important for the council to know not

625
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,320
necessarily for me to know

626
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:22,559
absolutely thank you very much

627
00:30:22,559 --> 00:30:25,760
with that i will move on to

628
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:31,269
adam clerk is it mr kowalski this next

629
00:30:31,279 --> 00:30:38,870
yes

630
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:40,720
welcome mr kowalski

631
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:43,279
hello i hope you can hear me we can if i

632
00:30:43,279 --> 00:30:44,640
get you to state your full name and

633
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:46,159
address and then tell us your thoughts

634
00:30:46,159 --> 00:30:47,520
on this project

635
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:49,679
uh gord kowalski

636
00:30:49,679 --> 00:30:52,880
exchange street odessa

637
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:54,480
okay

638
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:57,440
i have a few comments uh

639
00:30:57,440 --> 00:30:59,200
the first one i want to start out with

640
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:01,519
is the uh notice of the public meeting

641
00:31:01,519 --> 00:31:02,799
this one here

642
00:31:02,799 --> 00:31:05,519
i noticed on the township website there

643
00:31:05,519 --> 00:31:08,080
that uh the bath meetings are all

644
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:10,720
published on the township website and

645
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:12,399
this meeting

646
00:31:12,399 --> 00:31:14,640
you know it just isn't published and it

647
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,039
kind of you know give back in the

648
00:31:17,039 --> 00:31:19,360
enhanced notice and uh

649
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:21,360
you know it

650
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:24,799
more public participation might be uh

651
00:31:24,799 --> 00:31:27,679
be held if this was a this was published

652
00:31:27,679 --> 00:31:30,000
along with the other meetings that's one

653
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:31,120
thing

654
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:34,480
i'm one of my comments if you under

655
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:38,720
and i do understand i'm not sure that

656
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:41,279
i would like our staff to comment on the

657
00:31:41,279 --> 00:31:43,840
uh the publication and the notifications

658
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:45,600
uh but if you have another question

659
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:47,279
we'll take that and then i'll all go to

660
00:31:47,279 --> 00:31:49,360
staff

661
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:51,919
well i'm i i'm sure that that the

662
00:31:51,919 --> 00:31:54,559
regulations are met on this except uh

663
00:31:54,559 --> 00:31:55,519
the pub

664
00:31:55,519 --> 00:31:58,880
by not having this meeting publicized on

665
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:01,120
the website there it's

666
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:03,120
you don't get the participation so

667
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:05,360
that's that's what i'm getting at

668
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:07,519
okay

669
00:32:07,519 --> 00:32:10,399
my next question is is uh the allocation

670
00:32:10,399 --> 00:32:12,320
of sewer

671
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:13,360
uh

672
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:15,200
originally when this

673
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:18,640
plan started out that was 2007 that uh

674
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:22,080
they allocated 23 units of sewer

675
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:23,760
and that

676
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:25,840
there's a plan of a subdivision that

677
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:27,919
went through well it didn't go through

678
00:32:27,919 --> 00:32:29,519
it got

679
00:32:29,519 --> 00:32:32,880
struck down and then it went to appeal

680
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:36,720
the appeal was withdrawn in 2012.

681
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:39,440
so for four years until 216

682
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:41,519
there must be another extension in there

683
00:32:41,519 --> 00:32:42,880
and then

684
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:44,480
there wasn't a lot

685
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:46,480
there there were it was there was an

686
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:49,600
allocation to uh another 13 units to

687
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:51,919
make it 36.

688
00:32:51,919 --> 00:32:55,519
so we've had 218 in extension 219 an

689
00:32:55,519 --> 00:32:56,720
extension

690
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,200
now we're coming to

691
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:00,960
another extension how many extensions

692
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:02,240
are we going to have and what's that

693
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:04,159
going to do to set precedence for other

694
00:33:04,159 --> 00:33:06,480
developments is my question

695
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:07,519
okay

696
00:33:07,519 --> 00:33:11,039
with that i will go to our director

697
00:33:11,039 --> 00:33:13,279
and madame are you able to answer the

698
00:33:13,279 --> 00:33:15,440
questions with regard to a the

699
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:17,840
publication and notification for this

700
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:24,310
meeting and b the sewage allocation

701
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:25,840
unfortunately miss mary you're muted

702
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:28,789
right now

703
00:33:28,799 --> 00:33:29,679
okay

704
00:33:29,679 --> 00:33:31,440
through you you worship uh i can

705
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:33,760
definitely answer the sewer allocation

706
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:35,760
uh question and miss furnace will have

707
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:39,039
to uh to speak to the publication uh

708
00:33:39,039 --> 00:33:41,120
that was done for this uh for this

709
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:42,399
application

710
00:33:42,399 --> 00:33:44,880
uh again at this time we're still doing

711
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:48,480
a technical review for for this um

712
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:52,720
for this development so uh as far as the

713
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:54,399
number of units allocated for this

714
00:33:54,399 --> 00:33:55,760
development

715
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:58,000
as you are aware we

716
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:00,480
review our uncommitted reserve capacity

717
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:03,840
on a yearly basis based on

718
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,080
flows that reach our sewage treatment

719
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:07,200
facility

720
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:08,240
and

721
00:34:08,240 --> 00:34:09,919
this development has certainly been on

722
00:34:09,919 --> 00:34:12,720
our books for quite a few years

723
00:34:12,720 --> 00:34:14,639
and

724
00:34:14,639 --> 00:34:17,040
when we came to council asking for an

725
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,599
extension

726
00:34:19,599 --> 00:34:22,879
you know the 36 units are being carried

727
00:34:22,879 --> 00:34:25,359
uh in our uncommitted reserve capacity

728
00:34:25,359 --> 00:34:27,119
so the plant is

729
00:34:27,119 --> 00:34:30,560
uh able to um handle the additional

730
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:32,399
units

731
00:34:32,399 --> 00:34:34,560
okay thank you

732
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:36,879
and miss furnace if you're available

733
00:34:36,879 --> 00:34:38,639
would you be able to speak to the

734
00:34:38,639 --> 00:34:42,470
notification process

735
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:44,879
yes through through you mr mayor um in

736
00:34:44,879 --> 00:34:46,879
terms of the township's website it

737
00:34:46,879 --> 00:34:48,399
should have been posted on there if it

738
00:34:48,399 --> 00:34:50,399
we'd have to go back in and check to see

739
00:34:50,399 --> 00:34:51,599
what may have happened there if he's

740
00:34:51,599 --> 00:34:53,760
indicating that it that it hasn't been

741
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:55,440
um so if that's the case then there

742
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:57,040
could have been a potential oversight in

743
00:34:57,040 --> 00:35:00,160
that but i can confirm all additional

744
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:01,760
posting requirements were met there's

745
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:04,240
signage posted on the on the site um

746
00:35:04,240 --> 00:35:05,920
notice was mailed to all property owners

747
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:08,800
within 120 meters of the site as well

748
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:12,720
um and i'm going forward there's um

749
00:35:12,720 --> 00:35:14,320
there'll be an obviously this is just a

750
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:15,920
public meeting so there'll be further

751
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:17,359
meetings to this brought forward in

752
00:35:17,359 --> 00:35:19,760
council with an additional notice um and

753
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,160
so we can definitely ensure that

754
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:24,880
that it's included on the website

755
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:26,960
thank you

756
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:29,200
mr kowalski you've heard the answers do

757
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:31,280
you have any further comment

758
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:32,079
uh

759
00:35:32,079 --> 00:35:35,760
well i can go on about the drainage now

760
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:37,359
go ahead

761
00:35:37,359 --> 00:35:38,400
back in

762
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:41,680
i don't know 1991 as a public meeting

763
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:43,839
and they're doing the odessa uh public

764
00:35:43,839 --> 00:35:45,920
housing stuff there

765
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:48,079
and the property where the seniors uh

766
00:35:48,079 --> 00:35:50,160
residence is now

767
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:52,560
uh there's concerns if they put the fill

768
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:54,560
in there that was gonna cause problems

769
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:57,040
with the drainage on shane street

770
00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:59,200
and uh that was brought up in the public

771
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:01,920
meeting in 91

772
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:05,599
came on 93 or 94 there's another public

773
00:36:05,599 --> 00:36:06,800
meeting and

774
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:08,800
they waived the uh

775
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:12,000
the water studies in the soil testing in

776
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,960
a scramble to get the uh public funding

777
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:17,040
and after that the next year after that

778
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:20,800
we had a year and we had problems there

779
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:22,400
so uh

780
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:25,440
you know things happened uh

781
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:28,800
there there were petitions to the to the

782
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,200
earnest downtown council i guess back

783
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:32,400
then and

784
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:35,040
delegations and stuff and they ended up

785
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:38,480
uh in improving the ditches on the north

786
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:41,040
side of shane street and putting the

787
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:43,119
fill in the backyards but we still

788
00:36:43,119 --> 00:36:44,320
haven't

789
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:46,800
i guess i read in the port uh under

790
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:49,040
functioning ditch on the on the north

791
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:50,079
side

792
00:36:50,079 --> 00:36:51,359
we've uh

793
00:36:51,359 --> 00:36:53,280
now spent money in the last couple years

794
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:56,480
improving uh the south side ditch

795
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:59,359
so that's tax money spent there and uh

796
00:36:59,359 --> 00:37:00,640
i'm really concerned what's going to

797
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:02,640
happen here and we've already spent what

798
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:04,800
spent our tax dollars done on these

799
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:07,040
improvements and it's natural drainage

800
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:08,960
going down through there so i'm i'm not

801
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:10,400
really too sure what's going to happen

802
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:13,040
here i'm i'm concerned

803
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:15,040
thank you ms merritt do you have comment

804
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:18,160
with regard to the drainage

805
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:19,920
again three year worship we're still

806
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:22,160
doing this is only for an op not only

807
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:24,640
this is for an opm admin and a reasoning

808
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:25,680
amendment

809
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:27,040
uh and

810
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:28,400
we're still going through the detailed

811
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:29,440
design

812
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:32,240
uh we are aware that drainage is uh is a

813
00:37:32,240 --> 00:37:33,440
concern

814
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:35,760
and we are um

815
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:36,720
definitely

816
00:37:36,720 --> 00:37:38,640
uh paying close attention to that part

817
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:41,359
of the design

818
00:37:41,359 --> 00:37:43,839
thank you mr kowalski just from my own

819
00:37:43,839 --> 00:37:45,599
perspective i can't speak to what

820
00:37:45,599 --> 00:37:47,680
happened in the 90s uh that was

821
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:50,480
definitely before i came on council

822
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:51,680
but

823
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:53,520
i assure you that when we were reviewing

824
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:55,280
this a few years ago

825
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:57,680
drainage was brought very much to the

826
00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:00,560
forefront as a concern for that region

827
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:01,440
and

828
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:03,839
will continue to be something that we

829
00:38:03,839 --> 00:38:06,400
work to ensure as best as we possibly

830
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:08,720
can as this moves forward

831
00:38:08,720 --> 00:38:10,960
yeah well i assumed that you know about

832
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:12,640
the drainage because i read another

833
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:14,320
report there the

834
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:16,160
the property behind the council there

835
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:18,400
has a stream and it's it's and stuff

836
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:20,160
running through and it's unsuitable to

837
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:23,359
put a new county a new

838
00:38:23,359 --> 00:38:25,680
public building on so i don't know i'm

839
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:27,520
just really concerned

840
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:30,400
i appreciate that

841
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:32,000
council do we have any questions for mr

842
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:35,430
kowalski

843
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:37,920
i'm seeing no questions

844
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:39,599
right i'll say thank you very much for

845
00:38:39,599 --> 00:38:41,599
your input mr kowalski we will continue

846
00:38:41,599 --> 00:38:43,760
to to move forward

847
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:46,079
i believe uh madam clerk i believe the

848
00:38:46,079 --> 00:38:49,670
next up is mr peacock

849
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:51,440
i'm allowed to

850
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:53,839
speak i believe

851
00:38:53,839 --> 00:38:56,720
mr pika can you hear us

852
00:38:56,720 --> 00:38:59,119
hi am i muted

853
00:38:59,119 --> 00:39:01,359
we can hear you yes go ahead sir give us

854
00:39:01,359 --> 00:39:04,160
your full name and address please

855
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:06,640
uh this is nathan peacock but uh rebecca

856
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:08,560
brown lives with me as well

857
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:10,960
at uh 311 main street

858
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:13,280
um and she'll be speaking on my behalf

859
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:15,760
it's just i have logged in on my tablet

860
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:17,760
she's here with me

861
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:20,079
fair enough and madam if you would give

862
00:39:20,079 --> 00:39:22,400
us your name and address then please

863
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:24,320
uh my name is rebecca brown i live at

864
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:27,599
311 main street um i wrote some comments

865
00:39:27,599 --> 00:39:29,920
let me the agenda but i'm not sure if

866
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:31,359
you're going to read those comments or

867
00:39:31,359 --> 00:39:33,520
not i just have some very concerning

868
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:35,200
questions i'd like to ask miss tucker

869
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:36,960
myself

870
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:38,960
well if you could uh

871
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:40,560
yeah tell us your questions and and

872
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:42,960
we'll see what we can do for a response

873
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:44,880
thank you

874
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:46,560
um

875
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:48,800
so i live at 311 main street which is a

876
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:50,320
known um

877
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:52,160
i guess watering hole of

878
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:53,440
odessa

879
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:57,200
um i was just wondering if um ibi group

880
00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:58,960
had an evaluation

881
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:01,280
by career callaway group sorry if i say

882
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:02,960
that wrong

883
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:05,750
and it was commented during this

884
00:40:05,750 --> 00:40:07,040
[Music]

885
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:09,440
this evaluation that it was not a four

886
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:11,440
season water level that they only did

887
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:12,960
the spring melt

888
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:15,440
um there's an approximization

889
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:18,800
uh completed and no allocations of where

890
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:21,119
they actually took this data i find this

891
00:40:21,119 --> 00:40:23,040
concerning because the spring melt is

892
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:26,240
not my highest water level of the year

893
00:40:26,240 --> 00:40:28,319
um i was just wondering

894
00:40:28,319 --> 00:40:29,839
why they thought that was sufficient

895
00:40:29,839 --> 00:40:32,640
because in previous meetings i have in

896
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:33,680
fact sent

897
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:34,960
council

898
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:37,119
pictures of water levels in november

899
00:40:37,119 --> 00:40:39,599
which happened to be up to my waistline

900
00:40:39,599 --> 00:40:42,319
in my own basement i was just wondering

901
00:40:42,319 --> 00:40:44,880
if that fourth season was going to be

902
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:46,800
completed and if council was aware of

903
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:48,720
that

904
00:40:48,720 --> 00:40:50,240
thank you

905
00:40:50,240 --> 00:40:53,040
i will go to ms tucker for a response

906
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:54,240
with regard to the studies that have

907
00:40:54,240 --> 00:41:02,150
been done

908
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:04,800
miss tucker you muted right now

909
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:06,560
sorry

910
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:08,560
thank you miss brand so we did the

911
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:10,079
studies as were required by the

912
00:41:10,079 --> 00:41:12,319
municipality and we have gone back and

913
00:41:12,319 --> 00:41:14,560
forth now several times

914
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:16,640
with staff with the conservation

915
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:19,119
authority as well as

916
00:41:19,119 --> 00:41:21,280
the peer reviewers on what was required

917
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:23,599
and what we needed to do to move forward

918
00:41:23,599 --> 00:41:25,200
with this project

919
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:26,079
um

920
00:41:26,079 --> 00:41:28,240
should the city or the municipality

921
00:41:28,240 --> 00:41:30,880
require a four season study that can be

922
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:32,960
implemented as a draft plan condition

923
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:35,280
that we would have be required to

924
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:37,280
fulfill as part of the subdivision

925
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:40,230
agreement

926
00:41:40,240 --> 00:41:42,720
so that it's not we weren't required to

927
00:41:42,720 --> 00:41:44,800
it these comments we've received have

928
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:46,560
not said we need to do the four season

929
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:47,599
study

930
00:41:47,599 --> 00:41:49,119
and that's part of why we have not

931
00:41:49,119 --> 00:41:51,920
proceeded with it at this point

932
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:53,119
thank you

933
00:41:53,119 --> 00:41:55,359
i'll go to ms merritt did you have any

934
00:41:55,359 --> 00:42:02,630
comment with regard to the studies

935
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:06,000
you may have lost oh there she is

936
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:08,720
taking a little bit longer to

937
00:42:08,720 --> 00:42:12,240
turn this on um i don't have a further

938
00:42:12,240 --> 00:42:15,200
comment on this your worship uh again

939
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:18,000
the technical review is not there yet

940
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:19,680
this is just a public this is a public

941
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:22,079
meeting for us to gather comments and

942
00:42:22,079 --> 00:42:23,359
when we come back to council with a

943
00:42:23,359 --> 00:42:24,960
report

944
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:27,760
we will provide some answers

945
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:29,520
thank you very much

946
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:31,280
council do we have any questions for

947
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:37,589
this uh delegate

948
00:42:37,599 --> 00:42:39,280
and i'm seeing none

949
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:40,400
all right

950
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:41,839
thank you very much for you for your

951
00:42:41,839 --> 00:42:43,280
comments did you have anything further

952
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:45,119
to add then

953
00:42:45,119 --> 00:42:47,760
uh just one comment all those uh

954
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:50,000
um all the comments were added to the

955
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:52,400
agenda are you going to

956
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:55,119
review them and get back to those

957
00:42:55,119 --> 00:42:56,560
people

958
00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:57,359
and

959
00:42:57,359 --> 00:42:59,760
council has all of these comments before

960
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:02,400
us and the the commitment from this

961
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:04,240
public meeting is that the comments will

962
00:43:04,240 --> 00:43:07,040
be addressed by our staff prior to

963
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:09,520
any bylaw coming forward to council and

964
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:10,839
i see ms merritt

965
00:43:10,839 --> 00:43:14,240
nodding then i got the process right

966
00:43:14,240 --> 00:43:15,760
and

967
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:18,880
so yes the comments will be responded to

968
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:21,599
uh into each of them

969
00:43:21,599 --> 00:43:22,720
thank you

970
00:43:22,720 --> 00:43:24,480
okay perfect thank you

971
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:27,440
thank you is there anyone else in the

972
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:29,839
audience who wishes to speak on the

973
00:43:29,839 --> 00:43:35,510
issue of 315 main street odessa

974
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:37,440
and again i will ask if you

975
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:39,359
are interested in speaking to it you use

976
00:43:39,359 --> 00:43:45,190
the raise hand feature

977
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:47,200
madam clerk are you seeing anyone i'm

978
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:49,440
not right now

979
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:52,000
i'm not your worship

980
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:55,440
nope oh mr

981
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:59,270
kalowski

982
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:01,200
mr kowalski

983
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:02,319
and

984
00:44:02,319 --> 00:44:04,319
we typically only allows people to speak

985
00:44:04,319 --> 00:44:06,800
once but mr kowalski if you have a quick

986
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:08,640
question i will

987
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:13,910
allow it

988
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:15,839
and we can't hear you yet you're still

989
00:44:15,839 --> 00:44:20,870
muted

990
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:24,560
uh i just had a quick conversation with

991
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:26,880
one of my neighbors today and they have

992
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:28,960
a four generation

993
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:30,960
farm there that

994
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:32,240
they've been working on and they're

995
00:44:32,240 --> 00:44:33,839
quite concerned about this development

996
00:44:33,839 --> 00:44:36,800
and uh they're just very con just very

997
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:39,200
very concerned about the green factor

998
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:41,200
and the climate change aspects and what

999
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:43,040
and how it would affect them that's

1000
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:46,800
that's about what i have to say about

1001
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:47,920
thanks

1002
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:49,680
greatly appreciate it and and if you

1003
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:51,280
could get them to put it send in their

1004
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:54,560
comments uh in writing or or phone the

1005
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:56,800
the office to provide those comments we

1006
00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:58,400
can include those in the comments that

1007
00:44:58,400 --> 00:44:59,680
will be addressed

1008
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:02,839
as this report moves further

1009
00:45:02,839 --> 00:45:09,280
okay thank you mr kowalski

1010
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:16,870
any anyone else

1011
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:24,069
madam clerk are you seeing anyone

1012
00:45:24,079 --> 00:45:27,040
yes your worship uh ann mcintosh i'll

1013
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:29,040
just allow to speak

1014
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:31,839
miss mcintosh i believe you come into

1015
00:45:31,839 --> 00:45:33,680
the at the front

1016
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:35,520
if you can unmute can you tell us your

1017
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:37,520
name and address and then give us your

1018
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:38,960
thoughts on this please

1019
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:41,680
uh well my concern can you hear me we

1020
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:44,000
can hear you yes okay great i've never

1021
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:45,760
done this before so have an amateur at

1022
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:46,480
this

1023
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:47,359
um

1024
00:45:47,359 --> 00:45:50,630
we're all learning

1025
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:52,800
okay well i'm not a property owner i'm a

1026
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:55,359
resident in the seniors resident around

1027
00:45:55,359 --> 00:45:56,319
the corner

1028
00:45:56,319 --> 00:45:59,599
and my concerns are

1029
00:45:59,599 --> 00:46:00,640
um

1030
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:02,960
largely environmental and quality of

1031
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:05,119
life like i know mr klosky mentioned

1032
00:46:05,119 --> 00:46:07,119
somebody who

1033
00:46:07,119 --> 00:46:08,560
was concerned because they were a

1034
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:10,800
four-generation farmer

1035
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:12,240
um

1036
00:46:12,240 --> 00:46:15,920
the thing is that once this starts

1037
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:18,560
the quality of life of the people who

1038
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:20,800
have lived here for generations

1039
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:22,079
and the people who have come here

1040
00:46:22,079 --> 00:46:24,319
because this is what we like

1041
00:46:24,319 --> 00:46:27,349
once again

1042
00:46:27,359 --> 00:46:28,880
our quality of life is just being

1043
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:31,040
disregarded so that somebody can build a

1044
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:32,880
development

1045
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:35,200
like this is a rural area and it's quiet

1046
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:37,760
and it's the air is clean and we

1047
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:40,400
hear birds and trees and wind and we get

1048
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:43,440
the smell of the hay and the grass

1049
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:44,800
we get to look at the world the way it

1050
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:46,480
was supposed to be

1051
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:49,440
and it seems like for myself every time

1052
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:52,880
i found a place like this to live

1053
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:54,640
after a few years i've got to pull up

1054
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:56,480
and leave because well here comes the

1055
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:59,040
developer it's all gone again

1056
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:00,720
and

1057
00:47:00,720 --> 00:47:02,000
all this

1058
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:03,599
discussion that's going on now in the

1059
00:47:03,599 --> 00:47:06,000
world about global warming and climate

1060
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:08,319
change and so on this is relevant

1061
00:47:08,319 --> 00:47:09,920
because every time you destroy something

1062
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:12,480
like this chop down trees pave over

1063
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:14,079
grass

1064
00:47:14,079 --> 00:47:15,359
that's part of the world that's not

1065
00:47:15,359 --> 00:47:17,359
getting cleaned again and you can't go

1066
00:47:17,359 --> 00:47:19,680
back once you've dug it dug it up paved

1067
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:21,280
it over and built on it it's gone

1068
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:23,760
forever and ever you'll never get it

1069
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:25,200
back

1070
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:27,680
um if we're gonna try to do anything

1071
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:29,760
about preserving the world for

1072
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:31,599
people's children and grandchildren

1073
00:47:31,599 --> 00:47:33,440
great-grandchildren i don't have any but

1074
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:36,870
probably most of you do

1075
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:38,559
it takes all of us and we have to start

1076
00:47:38,559 --> 00:47:40,319
somewhere there's all the little people

1077
00:47:40,319 --> 00:47:42,000
like us

1078
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:44,960
all working together that maybe can turn

1079
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:47,359
the tide and

1080
00:47:47,359 --> 00:47:48,480
get the world back to where it's

1081
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:49,920
supposed to be

1082
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:51,599
there's social problems that come

1083
00:47:51,599 --> 00:47:53,200
because people can't get away from each

1084
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:55,200
other because

1085
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:57,040
there's no place that they can go to

1086
00:47:57,040 --> 00:47:58,640
stop trying to move at the speed of

1087
00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:01,359
light and of the speed of light and go

1088
00:48:01,359 --> 00:48:02,640
back to remembering that they're people

1089
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:04,240
but not machines

1090
00:48:04,240 --> 00:48:05,680
you go out you walk in the woods you

1091
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:07,280
walk in the fields you listen to the

1092
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:09,520
birds you look around you

1093
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:12,720
and the stresses of the world disappear

1094
00:48:12,720 --> 00:48:14,079
where do we go

1095
00:48:14,079 --> 00:48:15,200
what do we do

1096
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:16,640
when that's gone

1097
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:18,400
and once you've done this

1098
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:21,040
that's the beginning somebody else comes

1099
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:22,960
in behind these guys who wants to

1100
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:24,480
develop something else before you don't

1101
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:26,240
work case them then before you know it

1102
00:48:26,240 --> 00:48:28,000
we're toronto

1103
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:29,920
that's my concerns i mean i'll be dead

1104
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:32,079
and buried by the time that happens but

1105
00:48:32,079 --> 00:48:34,160
in the meantime i'm going to lose

1106
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:35,440
something that

1107
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:37,760
means a great deal to me because

1108
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:39,680
i won't be able to enjoy this anymore

1109
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:42,240
either anyway that's my concerns

1110
00:48:42,240 --> 00:48:43,040
and

1111
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:45,280
that's all i had to say about it and i

1112
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:46,640
appreciate you bringing it forward ms

1113
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:49,040
mcintosh thank you council do we have

1114
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:53,030
any questions from his macintosh

1115
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:55,040
and i'm seeing none i'll say thank you

1116
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:58,000
very much miss mcintosh and uh and say

1117
00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:00,559
your comments will be added into the uh

1118
00:49:00,559 --> 00:49:05,030
the report and addressed by staff

1119
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:06,720
is there anyone else who wishes to

1120
00:49:06,720 --> 00:49:09,599
address the public meeting regarding 315

1121
00:49:09,599 --> 00:49:16,069
main street odessa

1122
00:49:16,079 --> 00:49:19,760
have mr cunningham i believe

1123
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:21,920
mr cunningham

1124
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:24,400
i think you were interested in the bath

1125
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:27,280
project not the odessa project but uh if

1126
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:29,599
you wish to comment on the the odessa

1127
00:49:29,599 --> 00:49:32,710
project

1128
00:49:32,720 --> 00:49:36,390
mr cunningham can you hear me

1129
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:40,790
see you in if you could unmute

1130
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:42,160
i can hear you i'm just going to wait

1131
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:43,920
till uh the bath

1132
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:45,920
the next next item

1133
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:48,319
okay thank you thank you and we'll call

1134
00:49:48,319 --> 00:49:52,480
you in at that time great thanks thank

1135
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:55,520
is there anyone else with regard to

1136
00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:59,520
the 315 main street odessa project

1137
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:03,270
application

1138
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:05,280
i see hands up from the same people that

1139
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:07,200
have already spoken to us

1140
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:09,920
again traditionally this is one person

1141
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:12,079
gets one shot at this is there anyone

1142
00:50:12,079 --> 00:50:17,030
new

1143
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:21,829
i'm seeing no one knew

1144
00:50:21,839 --> 00:50:23,599
mr cunningham still has his hand up but

1145
00:50:23,599 --> 00:50:25,839
i'm again that that's for the next one

1146
00:50:25,839 --> 00:50:29,200
we have mr peacock oh miss tucker do you

1147
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:31,359
have the numbers yeah i have the numbers

1148
00:50:31,359 --> 00:50:33,040
and i also have an update on the four

1149
00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:35,359
season hydrogeological study

1150
00:50:35,359 --> 00:50:38,839
thank you go ahead so the swim pond has

1151
00:50:38,839 --> 00:50:40,720
308

1152
00:50:40,720 --> 00:50:43,760
uh cubic meters of storage

1153
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:46,079
at the parking lot has

1154
00:50:46,079 --> 00:50:49,839
about 130 cubic meters of storage

1155
00:50:49,839 --> 00:50:53,839
for a total of 309 sorry 77 cubic meters

1156
00:50:53,839 --> 00:50:56,880
of storage for a total of 395 cubic

1157
00:50:56,880 --> 00:50:59,359
meters of storage on site

1158
00:50:59,359 --> 00:51:01,760
based on the current flows today we are

1159
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:05,040
actually only required to have 131 cubic

1160
00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:06,880
meters so we have

1161
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:08,400
close to three times the amount of

1162
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:11,440
storage that we need on site

1163
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:13,760
and with respect to the four season

1164
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:16,160
hydro geological in our second

1165
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:18,880
submission we did submit the four season

1166
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:20,839
hydrogeological for the

1167
00:51:20,839 --> 00:51:23,440
site okay so it has been submitted is

1168
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:28,630
that a public document

1169
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:30,480
should be because it is part of the

1170
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:31,920
application

1171
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:34,630
this furnace

1172
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:36,000
yes through you mr mayor they're all

1173
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:38,000
public documents so if any member of

1174
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:40,319
council or any public member um wishes

1175
00:51:40,319 --> 00:51:42,160
to receive copies of them they can

1176
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:43,280
definitely reach out to the playing

1177
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:45,119
division and we can provide those

1178
00:51:45,119 --> 00:51:48,319
okay thank you very much

1179
00:51:48,319 --> 00:51:50,480
with that

1180
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:52,160
again i'll come back to counsel any

1181
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:56,400
questions for miss tucker or staff

1182
00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:58,720
seeing none

1183
00:51:58,720 --> 00:52:01,040
i see mr peacock's hand is still up and

1184
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:03,359
i believe that's and i'll be honest i've

1185
00:52:03,359 --> 00:52:05,280
forgotten the uh

1186
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:07,520
the lady who was speaking i will ask the

1187
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:10,640
clerk to bring her in very briefly

1188
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:12,640
for a follow-up comment and then we'll

1189
00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:16,150
call this bring this to a close

1190
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:17,440
yes

1191
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:19,280
it's actually nathan is speaking this

1192
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:22,079
time uh it and it's more of a

1193
00:52:22,079 --> 00:52:23,680
comment than a question

1194
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:25,040
um i know

1195
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:27,119
that there are at least two landowners

1196
00:52:27,119 --> 00:52:29,520
adjacent to this property that have had

1197
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:31,520
difficulties with trying to get on the

1198
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:32,640
council

1199
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:34,559
trying to get onto the zoom meetings the

1200
00:52:34,559 --> 00:52:36,559
technology what have you

1201
00:52:36,559 --> 00:52:37,520
um

1202
00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:38,640
i just

1203
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:41,040
i know that uh

1204
00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:42,720
they would like to be here um but

1205
00:52:42,720 --> 00:52:43,839
they're having

1206
00:52:43,839 --> 00:52:45,520
some technical issues so i've received

1207
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:47,359
some messages from them that's all i

1208
00:52:47,359 --> 00:52:49,839
just wanted to uh

1209
00:52:49,839 --> 00:52:51,520
get that information

1210
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:53,680
through that's that's all i have

1211
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:55,680
thank you very much again i would ask

1212
00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:57,520
anyone who wishes to make comment with

1213
00:52:57,520 --> 00:52:59,359
regard to this application

1214
00:52:59,359 --> 00:53:01,760
to uh the best way would be to provide

1215
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:04,079
it by email if that's possible provided

1216
00:53:04,079 --> 00:53:07,359
in writing at the township office uh or

1217
00:53:07,359 --> 00:53:09,200
at the very least phone the township

1218
00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:11,920
office and provide comments that way and

1219
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:14,559
all comments will be addressed prior to

1220
00:53:14,559 --> 00:53:17,040
this coming back to council or as this

1221
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:18,800
comes back to council

1222
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:23,910
before any decision is made

1223
00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:27,040
with that i will say last call for

1224
00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:32,470
the public meeting for 315 main street

1225
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:35,200
okay

1226
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:38,240
and we do have a recommendation

1227
00:53:38,240 --> 00:53:40,160
right

1228
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:42,160
for the recommendation is that this be

1229
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:43,680
brought forward to council once the

1230
00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:45,359
comments from the departments the

1231
00:53:45,359 --> 00:53:46,720
agencies and the public have been

1232
00:53:46,720 --> 00:53:47,839
addressed

1233
00:53:47,839 --> 00:53:50,079
that the units of capacity previously

1234
00:53:50,079 --> 00:53:52,079
allocated within the water and

1235
00:53:52,079 --> 00:53:53,920
loyalistic sewage systems for the

1236
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:55,839
development of consent

1237
00:53:55,839 --> 00:53:58,240
be extended to june 30th to allow for

1238
00:53:58,240 --> 00:54:00,000
the comments to be addressed and the

1239
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:02,720
draft plan of subdivision to be granted

1240
00:54:02,720 --> 00:54:05,280
and if the effective property receiving

1241
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:07,359
allocation has not obtained draft plan

1242
00:54:07,359 --> 00:54:09,599
approval by june 30th then this

1243
00:54:09,599 --> 00:54:11,359
allocation would be made available to

1244
00:54:11,359 --> 00:54:12,880
other properties that is the

1245
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:15,680
recommendation before us council

1246
00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:17,359
council do you have any questions with

1247
00:54:17,359 --> 00:54:21,430
regard to the recommendations

1248
00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:23,520
and i'm seeing no hands

1249
00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:25,200
then i will ask if there's someone

1250
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:35,670
willing to make a motion

1251
00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:37,040
counsel

1252
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:39,200
are we going to make promotion either on

1253
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:46,470
the recommendation or another motion

1254
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:48,559
anyone

1255
00:54:48,559 --> 00:54:53,349
i'll go to the deputy thank you

1256
00:54:53,359 --> 00:54:54,640
move to receive and adopt the

1257
00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:56,480
recommendations

1258
00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:58,160
to receive and adopt the recommendations

1259
00:54:58,160 --> 00:55:02,710
do i have a seconder for that

1260
00:55:02,720 --> 00:55:04,880
counselor parks the seconding thank you

1261
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:09,040
deputy any comment just very briefly um

1262
00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:11,680
this motion is uh strictly for basically

1263
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:13,680
receiving the information that we've got

1264
00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:15,920
tonight plus what will still come in

1265
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:18,000
so that it can be considered um during

1266
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:19,040
the review

1267
00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:21,200
so um that's why

1268
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:23,680
it's this motion is needed to be able to

1269
00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:25,200
be able to take all the comments and

1270
00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:28,079
concerns and address them appropriately

1271
00:55:28,079 --> 00:55:30,799
thank you secondary comment

1272
00:55:30,799 --> 00:55:33,599
uh just to echo what the deputy had said

1273
00:55:33,599 --> 00:55:35,280
yes this is just really to get all the

1274
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:37,040
information back before council so that

1275
00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:39,119
a proper decision can be made so

1276
00:55:39,119 --> 00:55:40,880
that's why i seconded the motion

1277
00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:42,559
thank you

1278
00:55:42,559 --> 00:55:47,109
anyone else wish to comment

1279
00:55:47,119 --> 00:55:50,400
i'm seeing no further comments

1280
00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:52,480
then i will call the question

1281
00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:56,240
all those in favor please raise a hand

1282
00:55:56,240 --> 00:55:58,160
any opposed

1283
00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:00,720
motion is carried thank you and that

1284
00:56:00,720 --> 00:56:02,319
brings us to the end of the public

1285
00:56:02,319 --> 00:56:05,200
meeting for 315 main street

1286
00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:07,119
we now move on to the public meeting

1287
00:56:07,119 --> 00:56:11,040
regarding 496 main street bath

1288
00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:16,069
and i turn to our director

1289
00:56:16,079 --> 00:56:17,839
to introduce

1290
00:56:17,839 --> 00:56:20,160
this oh before before i go to the

1291
00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:21,520
director kelsey parks did you have

1292
00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:22,799
something

1293
00:56:22,799 --> 00:56:24,400
i just wanted to mention to the clerk

1294
00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:27,359
that i did receive an email from mr hood

1295
00:56:27,359 --> 00:56:29,839
jason as well as dave salter that they

1296
00:56:29,839 --> 00:56:31,280
are trying to join the public meeting

1297
00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:32,240
later on

1298
00:56:32,240 --> 00:56:33,599
i just want to make sure she was aware

1299
00:56:33,599 --> 00:56:35,520
of that yes thank you

1300
00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:38,160
okay thank you

1301
00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:39,839
ms merritt you would like to introduce

1302
00:56:39,839 --> 00:56:42,240
this public meeting

1303
00:56:42,240 --> 00:56:43,520
uh through

1304
00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:46,079
uh yes so staff uh we don't have

1305
00:56:46,079 --> 00:56:48,079
anything further to add to the report

1306
00:56:48,079 --> 00:56:50,240
that's on the agenda but i believe the

1307
00:56:50,240 --> 00:56:51,839
um

1308
00:56:51,839 --> 00:56:55,200
the uh applicants consultant is here to

1309
00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:58,960
uh make a presentation as well

1310
00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:00,640
the applicant's consultant here to make

1311
00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:03,440
a presentation do we know the name

1312
00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:06,160
is that ms gilchrist yes

1313
00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:08,160
and then as us

1314
00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:11,760
staff to allow ms gilchrist to present

1315
00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:14,400
believe them skillchrist is here and

1316
00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:15,520
this

1317
00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:17,440
is stuke stuck i'm not sure how to

1318
00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:19,920
pronounce that

1319
00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:21,920
hi i'm three mr chair it's uh miss

1320
00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:22,880
stookie

1321
00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:24,799
miss dookie welcome all right you're

1322
00:57:24,799 --> 00:57:27,359
here to present on this application

1323
00:57:27,359 --> 00:57:28,559
yes yes

1324
00:57:28,559 --> 00:57:31,839
um council and

1325
00:57:31,839 --> 00:57:33,680
mayor my name is emma stuki i'm a

1326
00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:36,640
planner at ibi group while i'm set up to

1327
00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:38,839
share my screen to start the

1328
00:57:38,839 --> 00:57:44,870
presentation please go ahead

1329
00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:47,839
is everyone able to see the slides

1330
00:57:47,839 --> 00:57:50,160
not quite yet

1331
00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:52,480
i'm seeing black screen right now other

1332
00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:58,230
members of council

1333
00:57:58,240 --> 00:58:00,950
anyone

1334
00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:05,270
just showing black screen your worship

1335
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:07,440
something's not working properly

1336
00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:21,670
okay here i'll stop and try again

1337
00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:22,400
and

1338
00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:25,990
i'm still getting black screen

1339
00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:27,839
it says that you're sharing the screen

1340
00:58:27,839 --> 00:58:31,040
but i'm not seeing any screens

1341
00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:32,799
it does say double click to enter full

1342
00:58:32,799 --> 00:58:35,040
screen mode that may be

1343
00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:36,880
that it's off if you've got two screens

1344
00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:38,640
it may be off on your other screen and

1345
00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:41,440
just not showing up on the screen yet

1346
00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:43,680
i'm still seeing black screen council

1347
00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:45,359
the rest of council are you able to see

1348
00:58:45,359 --> 00:58:47,040
the presentation

1349
00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:51,040
i'm seeing heads shaking no no

1350
00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:56,630
okay i'll try

1351
00:58:56,640 --> 00:58:58,480
try one more time

1352
00:58:58,480 --> 00:59:00,400
third time's the charm third time's the

1353
00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:12,710
term

1354
00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:14,480
and i'm not sure what's going on but i'm

1355
00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:16,400
still getting black screen

1356
00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:17,599
black screen

1357
00:59:17,599 --> 00:59:19,760
um is it possible i did share the

1358
00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:22,079
presentation via email to um miss

1359
00:59:22,079 --> 00:59:24,640
furnace and mr casemore today

1360
00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:27,280
is it possible for someone else to maybe

1361
00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:29,440
pull up the slide um

1362
00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:32,160
i'm not sure what's going on on my end

1363
00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:34,559
okay if you could uh stop sharing for us

1364
00:59:34,559 --> 00:59:36,960
so that we can come back to regular view

1365
00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:39,280
i will turn to miss furnace

1366
00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:41,119
do you have that presentation and are

1367
00:59:41,119 --> 00:59:44,319
you able to pre to show it

1368
00:59:44,319 --> 00:59:46,960
your worship i believe we have a pdf of

1369
00:59:46,960 --> 00:59:49,119
it uh that i can put up on the screen

1370
00:59:49,119 --> 00:59:50,880
now and they'll just have to let me know

1371
00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:52,480
when to change

1372
00:59:52,480 --> 00:59:53,440
and

1373
00:59:53,440 --> 01:00:02,630
okay please do so

1374
01:00:02,640 --> 01:00:05,760
okay i'm now seeing a uh a presentation

1375
01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:08,160
on 496 main street bath council are you

1376
01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:10,480
seeing the same

1377
01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:12,319
i'm seeing nods so i'm hoping that the

1378
01:00:12,319 --> 01:00:14,640
public can see this as well and with

1379
01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:17,200
that ms stookie if you would like to uh

1380
01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:19,280
go ahead and when you need the slide to

1381
01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:22,640
change you can address that to the clerk

1382
01:00:22,640 --> 01:00:24,160
great thank you thanks for your help

1383
01:00:24,160 --> 01:00:26,000
with the technical difficulties so again

1384
01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:27,920
my name is emma stuki i'm a planner at

1385
01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:30,000
ibi group and we're the consultant

1386
01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:32,720
planners for our y legacy contractor um

1387
01:00:32,720 --> 01:00:34,880
so today we're here to discuss the

1388
01:00:34,880 --> 01:00:36,240
applications for draft plan of

1389
01:00:36,240 --> 01:00:39,119
subdivision for the property at 496 main

1390
01:00:39,119 --> 01:00:40,559
street and bath

1391
01:00:40,559 --> 01:00:42,319
so the purpose of the application is a

1392
01:00:42,319 --> 01:00:44,319
draft plan of subdivision to create 10

1393
01:00:44,319 --> 01:00:46,319
new residential blocks with 9 70

1394
01:00:46,319 --> 01:00:49,359
detached blocks with 18 units and one 10

1395
01:00:49,359 --> 01:00:51,359
s block with four units for a total of

1396
01:00:51,359 --> 01:00:54,000
22 units an official plan amendment is

1397
01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:56,000
requested to change the designation from

1398
01:00:56,000 --> 01:00:58,480
commercial to medium density residential

1399
01:00:58,480 --> 01:01:01,040
this is required in order to permit

1400
01:01:01,040 --> 01:01:03,040
townhouses and semi-detached dwellings

1401
01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:04,880
on the subject lands

1402
01:01:04,880 --> 01:01:06,400
and then a zoning bylaw amendment

1403
01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:08,319
application is proposed in order to

1404
01:01:08,319 --> 01:01:10,000
implement the proposed draft plan of

1405
01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:12,160
subdivision and change the zone from a

1406
01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:15,680
commercial zone to a residential zone

1407
01:01:15,680 --> 01:01:17,440
next slide please

1408
01:01:17,440 --> 01:01:19,040
so here's an image of the subject

1409
01:01:19,040 --> 01:01:20,960
property which shows the surrounding

1410
01:01:20,960 --> 01:01:23,520
fabric and location of the property

1411
01:01:23,520 --> 01:01:26,240
in the village of bath

1412
01:01:26,240 --> 01:01:27,920
next line please

1413
01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:30,000
the area context to the north is bath

1414
01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:32,319
creek loyalist golf and country club and

1415
01:01:32,319 --> 01:01:34,880
low density residential development to

1416
01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:36,640
the east is the village of bath various

1417
01:01:36,640 --> 01:01:38,880
commercial uses low density residential

1418
01:01:38,880 --> 01:01:40,480
uses the south

1419
01:01:40,480 --> 01:01:42,480
and properties along main street bath

1420
01:01:42,480 --> 01:01:44,480
low density residential uses in lake

1421
01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:45,599
ontario

1422
01:01:45,599 --> 01:01:46,799
west is

1423
01:01:46,799 --> 01:01:48,880
low density residential uses country

1424
01:01:48,880 --> 01:01:51,200
club drive and lands designated for

1425
01:01:51,200 --> 01:01:52,400
aggregate

1426
01:01:52,400 --> 01:01:54,960
at an extraction

1427
01:01:54,960 --> 01:01:57,039
um so in the area context those of you

1428
01:01:57,039 --> 01:01:58,799
familiar with bath primarily single

1429
01:01:58,799 --> 01:02:01,119
detached homes one to two stories range

1430
01:02:01,119 --> 01:02:02,640
of construction dates and range of

1431
01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:04,319
architectural styles

1432
01:02:04,319 --> 01:02:07,280
next slide please

1433
01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:09,680
and the site has an area of 1.2 hectares

1434
01:02:09,680 --> 01:02:11,680
with 93 meters of frontage on main

1435
01:02:11,680 --> 01:02:13,599
street there's an existing commercial

1436
01:02:13,599 --> 01:02:15,760
building on the site there's a u-shaped

1437
01:02:15,760 --> 01:02:17,440
driveway with two entrances to main

1438
01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:19,839
street the land is cleared and grassy

1439
01:02:19,839 --> 01:02:21,680
and bath creek runs along the north of

1440
01:02:21,680 --> 01:02:23,680
the property

1441
01:02:23,680 --> 01:02:25,680
next slide please

1442
01:02:25,680 --> 01:02:27,680
um so from these pictures we can see the

1443
01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:29,760
view of the property from east to west

1444
01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:31,680
and the existing conditions along the

1445
01:02:31,680 --> 01:02:32,839
property

1446
01:02:32,839 --> 01:02:35,839
lines next slide please

1447
01:02:35,839 --> 01:02:38,079
um so again here's the proposed concept

1448
01:02:38,079 --> 01:02:40,960
plan i'm proposing semi-detached

1449
01:02:40,960 --> 01:02:44,400
residential blocks with 18 semi-detached

1450
01:02:44,400 --> 01:02:47,119
units and four townhouse units all

1451
01:02:47,119 --> 01:02:49,359
around cul-de-sac

1452
01:02:49,359 --> 01:02:52,559
with an open space area

1453
01:02:52,559 --> 01:02:54,319
at the rear of the property which will

1454
01:02:54,319 --> 01:02:56,000
be designated to the township for

1455
01:02:56,000 --> 01:02:57,440
conservation

1456
01:02:57,440 --> 01:03:01,029
next slide please

1457
01:03:01,039 --> 01:03:05,200
um so

1458
01:03:05,200 --> 01:03:06,720
during the pre-consultation meeting with

1459
01:03:06,720 --> 01:03:08,880
the township we had certain design

1460
01:03:08,880 --> 01:03:11,599
considerations established to help guide

1461
01:03:11,599 --> 01:03:13,359
the development of this subdivision

1462
01:03:13,359 --> 01:03:15,200
including providing a mix of housing

1463
01:03:15,200 --> 01:03:17,760
types being set back from the flood

1464
01:03:17,760 --> 01:03:19,039
plain

1465
01:03:19,039 --> 01:03:21,200
that's bath creek minimizing the number

1466
01:03:21,200 --> 01:03:23,440
of entrances to main street providing a

1467
01:03:23,440 --> 01:03:26,400
minimum of two parking spaces per unit

1468
01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:28,559
next slide please

1469
01:03:28,559 --> 01:03:30,400
the proposed development will be

1470
01:03:30,400 --> 01:03:32,400
serviced by municipal water and sanitary

1471
01:03:32,400 --> 01:03:35,200
services servicing will be confirmed as

1472
01:03:35,200 --> 01:03:37,599
a condition of draft approval um block

1473
01:03:37,599 --> 01:03:39,760
11 which includes the lands along black

1474
01:03:39,760 --> 01:03:41,520
creek and the flood plain is a natural

1475
01:03:41,520 --> 01:03:43,520
open space block which will be dedicated

1476
01:03:43,520 --> 01:03:46,640
to loyalist township for conservation

1477
01:03:46,640 --> 01:03:48,480
and this dedication

1478
01:03:48,480 --> 01:03:50,240
will occur in consultation with the

1479
01:03:50,240 --> 01:03:53,359
conservation authority

1480
01:03:53,359 --> 01:03:55,200
the owner will also be required to

1481
01:03:55,200 --> 01:03:57,680
provide cash in lieu of parkland

1482
01:03:57,680 --> 01:04:00,000
access to the site is a 18 meter wide

1483
01:04:00,000 --> 01:04:02,079
public cul-de-sac connecting to main

1484
01:04:02,079 --> 01:04:03,920
street and individual driveways are

1485
01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:07,200
proposed for the four townhouse units

1486
01:04:07,200 --> 01:04:09,440
next slide please

1487
01:04:09,440 --> 01:04:11,839
here's an example built form

1488
01:04:11,839 --> 01:04:13,520
renderings shown are

1489
01:04:13,520 --> 01:04:16,240
conceptual at this point but show two to

1490
01:04:16,240 --> 01:04:18,000
two and a half story buildings two to

1491
01:04:18,000 --> 01:04:20,000
three bedroom units owner intends to

1492
01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:22,319
build a high quality product based on

1493
01:04:22,319 --> 01:04:24,400
feedback from the

1494
01:04:24,400 --> 01:04:26,720
virtual open house took it back to the

1495
01:04:26,720 --> 01:04:28,720
owner that had more traditional colonial

1496
01:04:28,720 --> 01:04:31,280
design is preferred for the area

1497
01:04:31,280 --> 01:04:33,359
buyers will be choosing floor plans and

1498
01:04:33,359 --> 01:04:35,839
landscaping will be required

1499
01:04:35,839 --> 01:04:38,870
next slide please

1500
01:04:38,880 --> 01:04:41,280
and so in terms of going to the policy

1501
01:04:41,280 --> 01:04:43,680
context so the proposed development

1502
01:04:43,680 --> 01:04:45,039
is consistent with the intent of the

1503
01:04:45,039 --> 01:04:46,640
provincial policy statement as it

1504
01:04:46,640 --> 01:04:48,400
redevelopment redevelops and

1505
01:04:48,400 --> 01:04:50,480
underutilized site in an area intended

1506
01:04:50,480 --> 01:04:52,240
for development it's within the urban

1507
01:04:52,240 --> 01:04:54,559
growth groundry efficiently uses land

1508
01:04:54,559 --> 01:04:56,880
and resources does not result in the

1509
01:04:56,880 --> 01:04:59,359
uneconomic extension of services

1510
01:04:59,359 --> 01:05:01,039
the proposed residential use is

1511
01:05:01,039 --> 01:05:03,119
compatible with the adjacent residential

1512
01:05:03,119 --> 01:05:05,599
uses and no public health and safety

1513
01:05:05,599 --> 01:05:07,119
issues are anticipated as the

1514
01:05:07,119 --> 01:05:08,720
development setback

1515
01:05:08,720 --> 01:05:11,200
far enough from box creek

1516
01:05:11,200 --> 01:05:14,000
next slide please

1517
01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:16,720
and here is an image of the current

1518
01:05:16,720 --> 01:05:19,039
official plan designation so the

1519
01:05:19,039 --> 01:05:20,960
existing designation is for commercial

1520
01:05:20,960 --> 01:05:24,000
land uses and medium density residential

1521
01:05:24,000 --> 01:05:26,319
is proposed the medium density

1522
01:05:26,319 --> 01:05:28,000
residential is proposed in order to

1523
01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:31,039
permit the townhouse use

1524
01:05:31,039 --> 01:05:33,599
um we note that the proposed density is

1525
01:05:33,599 --> 01:05:36,400
actually low density it's less than 31

1526
01:05:36,400 --> 01:05:38,240
units per net hectare which is what's

1527
01:05:38,240 --> 01:05:40,079
identified in the

1528
01:05:40,079 --> 01:05:42,160
township's official plan

1529
01:05:42,160 --> 01:05:44,799
as the threshold there so

1530
01:05:44,799 --> 01:05:46,640
seeking to go into the medium density

1531
01:05:46,640 --> 01:05:49,119
residential designation to permit the

1532
01:05:49,119 --> 01:05:51,760
townhouse built form

1533
01:05:51,760 --> 01:05:55,670
next slide please

1534
01:05:55,680 --> 01:05:58,160
so residential uses on the subject lands

1535
01:05:58,160 --> 01:06:00,000
are appropriately located it's within

1536
01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:02,079
the settlement area of bath

1537
01:06:02,079 --> 01:06:03,440
in an area that's within walking

1538
01:06:03,440 --> 01:06:05,039
distance of parkland community

1539
01:06:05,039 --> 01:06:07,359
facilities commercial uses

1540
01:06:07,359 --> 01:06:09,440
it's compatible with adjacent uses the

1541
01:06:09,440 --> 01:06:10,960
proposed residential use is more

1542
01:06:10,960 --> 01:06:13,119
compatible with adjacent residential

1543
01:06:13,119 --> 01:06:16,079
properties compared to a commercial use

1544
01:06:16,079 --> 01:06:17,680
it meets the functional needs of site

1545
01:06:17,680 --> 01:06:19,839
users parking and amenity space are

1546
01:06:19,839 --> 01:06:21,599
provided on the site consistent with the

1547
01:06:21,599 --> 01:06:23,359
township standards

1548
01:06:23,359 --> 01:06:26,000
helps to achieve intensification targets

1549
01:06:26,000 --> 01:06:28,079
supports residential intensification in

1550
01:06:28,079 --> 01:06:30,559
the settlement area of bath and complies

1551
01:06:30,559 --> 01:06:32,799
with division of land policies

1552
01:06:32,799 --> 01:06:34,240
so engineering studies have been

1553
01:06:34,240 --> 01:06:35,920
submitted which demonstrate that the

1554
01:06:35,920 --> 01:06:38,000
development of the subject lands

1555
01:06:38,000 --> 01:06:40,640
is orderly and logical meaning that

1556
01:06:40,640 --> 01:06:43,520
servicing can be provided traffic can be

1557
01:06:43,520 --> 01:06:46,079
accommodated and storm water management

1558
01:06:46,079 --> 01:06:48,960
can be managed as well

1559
01:06:48,960 --> 01:06:51,520
next slide please

1560
01:06:51,520 --> 01:06:53,839
so the existing zoning is a commercial

1561
01:06:53,839 --> 01:06:57,280
c2 zone and we're proposing to place

1562
01:06:57,280 --> 01:07:00,000
the lands into residential zones and it

1563
01:07:00,000 --> 01:07:01,760
will be a

1564
01:07:01,760 --> 01:07:03,440
residential type 4 zone for the

1565
01:07:03,440 --> 01:07:05,599
semi-detached dwellings and a

1566
01:07:05,599 --> 01:07:07,039
residential

1567
01:07:07,039 --> 01:07:10,319
type 5 zone for the townhouse units and

1568
01:07:10,319 --> 01:07:12,480
we note that site-specific performance

1569
01:07:12,480 --> 01:07:14,880
standards are proposed throughout to be

1570
01:07:14,880 --> 01:07:16,400
able to implement the development as

1571
01:07:16,400 --> 01:07:18,559
shown

1572
01:07:18,559 --> 01:07:21,119
next slide please

1573
01:07:21,119 --> 01:07:23,119
um so we have heard comments so far and

1574
01:07:23,119 --> 01:07:26,319
we did host a virtual open house

1575
01:07:26,319 --> 01:07:27,599
to

1576
01:07:27,599 --> 01:07:29,599
solicit feedback from the public and

1577
01:07:29,599 --> 01:07:31,119
have a discussion about the proposed

1578
01:07:31,119 --> 01:07:32,240
development

1579
01:07:32,240 --> 01:07:34,319
we heard concerns with compatibility and

1580
01:07:34,319 --> 01:07:36,400
scale concerns with potential traffic

1581
01:07:36,400 --> 01:07:38,000
impact and access

1582
01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:39,839
concerns with availability of water and

1583
01:07:39,839 --> 01:07:42,240
waste water services concerns about the

1584
01:07:42,240 --> 01:07:43,920
safety of the open space block in

1585
01:07:43,920 --> 01:07:46,240
parkland and concerns with flooding and

1586
01:07:46,240 --> 01:07:48,160
storm water management

1587
01:07:48,160 --> 01:07:51,670
next slide please

1588
01:07:51,680 --> 01:07:53,520
some concerns related to compatibility

1589
01:07:53,520 --> 01:07:56,000
and heritage concerns about the density

1590
01:07:56,000 --> 01:07:58,480
and the size of the lots

1591
01:07:58,480 --> 01:08:00,160
compatibility specifically with the

1592
01:08:00,160 --> 01:08:02,480
heritage character of bath preference

1593
01:08:02,480 --> 01:08:05,200
for fewer single detached homes and need

1594
01:08:05,200 --> 01:08:08,640
for greater setbacks and separation

1595
01:08:08,640 --> 01:08:10,319
so we do note that we have heard all of

1596
01:08:10,319 --> 01:08:12,000
these comments and taken them back to

1597
01:08:12,000 --> 01:08:13,359
the developer

1598
01:08:13,359 --> 01:08:15,760
and are awaiting township comments

1599
01:08:15,760 --> 01:08:17,040
before

1600
01:08:17,040 --> 01:08:20,400
making changes to the design

1601
01:08:20,400 --> 01:08:22,239
but to summarize the

1602
01:08:22,239 --> 01:08:24,480
proposed density is is considered low

1603
01:08:24,480 --> 01:08:26,400
density in the official plan

1604
01:08:26,400 --> 01:08:28,319
and the lot sizes and setbacks are

1605
01:08:28,319 --> 01:08:30,080
consistent with modern construction

1606
01:08:30,080 --> 01:08:32,880
standards again we note that

1607
01:08:32,880 --> 01:08:36,560
pending township comments these can be

1608
01:08:36,560 --> 01:08:38,640
reviewed final layout and building

1609
01:08:38,640 --> 01:08:40,560
locations will be refined through this

1610
01:08:40,560 --> 01:08:41,600
process

1611
01:08:41,600 --> 01:08:43,199
and the buildings will comply with the

1612
01:08:43,199 --> 01:08:46,400
maximum height of at 10 meters outlined

1613
01:08:46,400 --> 01:08:47,920
in the zoning bylaw

1614
01:08:47,920 --> 01:08:48,799
and

1615
01:08:48,799 --> 01:08:49,920
supports

1616
01:08:49,920 --> 01:08:52,159
the addition of semi-detached and

1617
01:08:52,159 --> 01:08:53,920
townhouse dwellings on this site

1618
01:08:53,920 --> 01:08:56,319
supports providing a range of mix and

1619
01:08:56,319 --> 01:08:58,319
housing types in bath

1620
01:08:58,319 --> 01:09:02,400
from a land use perspective supports

1621
01:09:02,400 --> 01:09:04,239
the efficient use of land and settlement

1622
01:09:04,239 --> 01:09:07,279
areas making use of existing services

1623
01:09:07,279 --> 01:09:08,159
and

1624
01:09:08,159 --> 01:09:10,159
the proposed built form is compatible

1625
01:09:10,159 --> 01:09:12,159
with adjacent residential uses in terms

1626
01:09:12,159 --> 01:09:14,640
of scale and bill form

1627
01:09:14,640 --> 01:09:16,799
next slide please

1628
01:09:16,799 --> 01:09:19,040
and so open space heard the concerns

1629
01:09:19,040 --> 01:09:20,239
here that need for planning and

1630
01:09:20,239 --> 01:09:21,920
landscape concerns with the safety of

1631
01:09:21,920 --> 01:09:24,319
block 11 for parkland and concerned with

1632
01:09:24,319 --> 01:09:26,560
access to open space for residents we

1633
01:09:26,560 --> 01:09:28,799
know that landscaping will be required

1634
01:09:28,799 --> 01:09:30,960
um the intention is to preserve trees

1635
01:09:30,960 --> 01:09:33,199
wherever possible block 11 will be

1636
01:09:33,199 --> 01:09:35,199
dedicated as open space for conservation

1637
01:09:35,199 --> 01:09:37,440
use and it's not intended to be a park

1638
01:09:37,440 --> 01:09:40,159
space or a public park space um it's

1639
01:09:40,159 --> 01:09:42,400
intended to let the

1640
01:09:42,400 --> 01:09:45,440
flood plane function um along the creek

1641
01:09:45,440 --> 01:09:47,199
and cache and live with parkland will be

1642
01:09:47,199 --> 01:09:49,679
provided to the township

1643
01:09:49,679 --> 01:09:52,239
next slide please

1644
01:09:52,239 --> 01:09:53,920
traffic access heard concerns about

1645
01:09:53,920 --> 01:09:55,520
traffic frequency concerns with the

1646
01:09:55,520 --> 01:09:56,880
amount of parking need for visitor

1647
01:09:56,880 --> 01:09:59,040
parking concerns with entrances on the

1648
01:09:59,040 --> 01:10:00,800
main street ability for trucks to turn

1649
01:10:00,800 --> 01:10:03,120
around and the need for sidewalks so

1650
01:10:03,120 --> 01:10:06,159
according to the traffic impact study

1651
01:10:06,159 --> 01:10:07,679
forecasted traffic levels are

1652
01:10:07,679 --> 01:10:09,679
anticipated to have negligible impact on

1653
01:10:09,679 --> 01:10:12,000
surrounding roads the cul-de-sac meets

1654
01:10:12,000 --> 01:10:13,760
the minimum turn radius required for

1655
01:10:13,760 --> 01:10:15,840
single-unit trucks the proposal will be

1656
01:10:15,840 --> 01:10:17,920
reviewed by the fire department

1657
01:10:17,920 --> 01:10:19,679
in the technical comments and the

1658
01:10:19,679 --> 01:10:21,199
proposed development meets the minimum

1659
01:10:21,199 --> 01:10:22,800
parking requirements for residential

1660
01:10:22,800 --> 01:10:24,560
uses

1661
01:10:24,560 --> 01:10:28,950
next slide please

1662
01:10:28,960 --> 01:10:31,600
um engineering again concerns with water

1663
01:10:31,600 --> 01:10:33,600
and wastewater servicing concerns about

1664
01:10:33,600 --> 01:10:35,840
capacity to support the development and

1665
01:10:35,840 --> 01:10:37,600
concerns about storm water management

1666
01:10:37,600 --> 01:10:40,239
flooding and water quality and runoff

1667
01:10:40,239 --> 01:10:42,080
so preliminary calculations show there

1668
01:10:42,080 --> 01:10:43,760
is capacity to service the proposed

1669
01:10:43,760 --> 01:10:45,360
development

1670
01:10:45,360 --> 01:10:47,199
these reports are available

1671
01:10:47,199 --> 01:10:49,679
and are being reviewed by the township

1672
01:10:49,679 --> 01:10:52,000
as part of their technical review

1673
01:10:52,000 --> 01:10:53,679
capacity will be confirmed by the

1674
01:10:53,679 --> 01:10:55,040
township as a condition of draft

1675
01:10:55,040 --> 01:10:56,239
approval

1676
01:10:56,239 --> 01:10:58,080
the storm sewer services will be

1677
01:10:58,080 --> 01:10:59,440
installed with a connection to main

1678
01:10:59,440 --> 01:11:01,360
street storm sewers

1679
01:11:01,360 --> 01:11:02,719
and there is going to be an oil grit

1680
01:11:02,719 --> 01:11:04,640
separator installed to mitigate any

1681
01:11:04,640 --> 01:11:06,960
adverse water quality effects and more

1682
01:11:06,960 --> 01:11:08,719
details on these measures are available

1683
01:11:08,719 --> 01:11:11,040
in the accompanying report

1684
01:11:11,040 --> 01:11:14,550
next slide please

1685
01:11:14,560 --> 01:11:17,280
um so in conclusion and based on this

1686
01:11:17,280 --> 01:11:19,600
the proposed residential uses on the

1687
01:11:19,600 --> 01:11:21,520
site are consistent with the intent of

1688
01:11:21,520 --> 01:11:22,719
the pps

1689
01:11:22,719 --> 01:11:25,120
conform to the official plan policies

1690
01:11:25,120 --> 01:11:29,430
and are compatible with surrounding uses

1691
01:11:29,440 --> 01:11:31,120
next slide please

1692
01:11:31,120 --> 01:11:32,960
um so thank you we welcome questions and

1693
01:11:32,960 --> 01:11:35,120
discussion

1694
01:11:35,120 --> 01:11:37,920
thank you very much miss dukey

1695
01:11:37,920 --> 01:11:40,560
uh council do we have any questions

1696
01:11:40,560 --> 01:11:42,159
with regard to the presentation just

1697
01:11:42,159 --> 01:11:45,990
made

1698
01:11:46,000 --> 01:11:48,880
i'm seeing no questions

1699
01:11:48,880 --> 01:11:51,679
so i will turn this to the public

1700
01:11:51,679 --> 01:11:54,960
okay and again this is a public meeting

1701
01:11:54,960 --> 01:11:57,040
council shall hear in person or by his

1702
01:11:57,040 --> 01:11:59,199
or her counsel solicitor agent any

1703
01:11:59,199 --> 01:12:01,760
person who came to be affected by this

1704
01:12:01,760 --> 01:12:03,600
application

1705
01:12:03,600 --> 01:12:05,440
at this time i'll turn to the clerk and

1706
01:12:05,440 --> 01:12:07,360
ask her to identify

1707
01:12:07,360 --> 01:12:10,159
people that are wishing to

1708
01:12:10,159 --> 01:12:11,520
attend

1709
01:12:11,520 --> 01:12:15,040
okay after your worship uh mr cunningham

1710
01:12:15,040 --> 01:12:17,120
has been allowed to speak

1711
01:12:17,120 --> 01:12:18,719
go ahead mr cunningham you'll have to

1712
01:12:18,719 --> 01:12:20,880
unmute

1713
01:12:20,880 --> 01:12:22,400
and again

1714
01:12:22,400 --> 01:12:24,320
name and address and

1715
01:12:24,320 --> 01:12:27,040
also comments please cunningham uh one

1716
01:12:27,040 --> 01:12:28,320
country club

1717
01:12:28,320 --> 01:12:32,400
drive and pass just 150 meters away from

1718
01:12:32,400 --> 01:12:35,280
this proposed subdivision

1719
01:12:35,280 --> 01:12:38,159
many of the concerns that i have got are

1720
01:12:38,159 --> 01:12:40,159
are the building of what is going into

1721
01:12:40,159 --> 01:12:42,560
this place because of what's beside this

1722
01:12:42,560 --> 01:12:43,679
project

1723
01:12:43,679 --> 01:12:47,120
is uh a home that was built in 1850

1724
01:12:47,120 --> 01:12:50,480
a home across the street which was 1850

1725
01:12:50,480 --> 01:12:52,239
and you start going down that street and

1726
01:12:52,239 --> 01:12:53,280
that's

1727
01:12:53,280 --> 01:12:55,520
you're almost going back into the 1800s

1728
01:12:55,520 --> 01:12:58,480
i think this will exactly take away from

1729
01:12:58,480 --> 01:13:01,520
the heritage bit of bath ontario it'll

1730
01:13:01,520 --> 01:13:04,880
become a just another little place

1731
01:13:04,880 --> 01:13:07,120
like behind like amherst view where

1732
01:13:07,120 --> 01:13:08,719
you're going to have all these

1733
01:13:08,719 --> 01:13:11,760
different kinds of things in there

1734
01:13:11,760 --> 01:13:14,640
we should be trying to keep this

1735
01:13:14,640 --> 01:13:16,080
as a certain

1736
01:13:16,080 --> 01:13:18,800
certain plate thing i could see if they

1737
01:13:18,800 --> 01:13:21,520
wanted to develop this to put this into

1738
01:13:21,520 --> 01:13:24,480
colonial style homes or period type

1739
01:13:24,480 --> 01:13:26,800
homes which can be built very easily by

1740
01:13:26,800 --> 01:13:29,040
a builder and i did check this builder

1741
01:13:29,040 --> 01:13:31,520
out he looks like he is a is a quality

1742
01:13:31,520 --> 01:13:32,800
builder

1743
01:13:32,800 --> 01:13:34,159
i think this is something i don't know

1744
01:13:34,159 --> 01:13:35,520
anything about the water plane but i

1745
01:13:35,520 --> 01:13:37,360
know i when i walk there

1746
01:13:37,360 --> 01:13:39,600
i'm in the last meeting a lot of people

1747
01:13:39,600 --> 01:13:41,280
had concerns about

1748
01:13:41,280 --> 01:13:44,400
runoff that where's it going to go

1749
01:13:44,400 --> 01:13:46,000
is it going to run into the into the

1750
01:13:46,000 --> 01:13:48,400
bath creek that's there and we have a

1751
01:13:48,400 --> 01:13:50,880
few pollution problems along there and

1752
01:13:50,880 --> 01:13:52,480
another thing was that

1753
01:13:52,480 --> 01:13:53,920
i could see that if they could take

1754
01:13:53,920 --> 01:13:56,320
those four townhouses out and make that

1755
01:13:56,320 --> 01:13:58,719
all parkland the people who have

1756
01:13:58,719 --> 01:14:01,040
children in that area but have a place

1757
01:14:01,040 --> 01:14:03,199
to play now there's no place for them to

1758
01:14:03,199 --> 01:14:05,120
go you can't take a three-year-old down

1759
01:14:05,120 --> 01:14:07,360
to the park all the time

1760
01:14:07,360 --> 01:14:09,360
and also with those four

1761
01:14:09,360 --> 01:14:10,480
four

1762
01:14:10,480 --> 01:14:12,400
townhouses there that's four extra

1763
01:14:12,400 --> 01:14:15,840
driveways on that bath road and right

1764
01:14:15,840 --> 01:14:20,400
now i call that the bath road speedway

1765
01:14:20,400 --> 01:14:23,120
you can't believe how fast the cars are

1766
01:14:23,120 --> 01:14:25,280
going on that even the trucks coming

1767
01:14:25,280 --> 01:14:26,640
from

1768
01:14:26,640 --> 01:14:28,960
coming from the

1769
01:14:28,960 --> 01:14:31,520
the parge today most of the trucks were

1770
01:14:31,520 --> 01:14:35,120
doing 65 to 70 k's completing with the

1771
01:14:35,120 --> 01:14:37,280
cars also all you need is one little

1772
01:14:37,280 --> 01:14:39,600
child to go out there and boom and it's

1773
01:14:39,600 --> 01:14:42,159
council's responsibility to make sure

1774
01:14:42,159 --> 01:14:44,800
that that speed limit is down but also

1775
01:14:44,800 --> 01:14:46,719
there's just too much congestion on a

1776
01:14:46,719 --> 01:14:47,760
weekend

1777
01:14:47,760 --> 01:14:49,920
with a subdivision we've got behind us

1778
01:14:49,920 --> 01:14:50,960
now

1779
01:14:50,960 --> 01:14:53,040
with only one exit

1780
01:14:53,040 --> 01:14:55,920
there could be a possibly 200 cars there

1781
01:14:55,920 --> 01:14:58,400
you think on the holiday weekend

1782
01:14:58,400 --> 01:15:00,719
and someone trying to turn left

1783
01:15:00,719 --> 01:15:03,600
will never get out let alone going down

1784
01:15:03,600 --> 01:15:05,040
the street again you're going to have

1785
01:15:05,040 --> 01:15:06,480
you're just going to have one big

1786
01:15:06,480 --> 01:15:07,760
bottleneck

1787
01:15:07,760 --> 01:15:11,040
so i just think that if they could get

1788
01:15:11,040 --> 01:15:12,719
could go back to the drawing board and

1789
01:15:12,719 --> 01:15:14,480
maybe do a uh

1790
01:15:14,480 --> 01:15:17,600
a single family development in there

1791
01:15:17,600 --> 01:15:20,719
with colonial style homes that would

1792
01:15:20,719 --> 01:15:22,800
match what's going on through there

1793
01:15:22,800 --> 01:15:24,320
that's what a legacy i'm sure i hope

1794
01:15:24,320 --> 01:15:25,520
someone else is here that knows more

1795
01:15:25,520 --> 01:15:27,840
about the land the land development so

1796
01:15:27,840 --> 01:15:29,920
forth around there with the streams and

1797
01:15:29,920 --> 01:15:31,199
so forth

1798
01:15:31,199 --> 01:15:33,520
is there anybody else here or not

1799
01:15:33,520 --> 01:15:36,790
that's all i have to say

1800
01:15:36,800 --> 01:15:38,560
thank you mr cunningham

1801
01:15:38,560 --> 01:15:40,239
council do we have any questions for mr

1802
01:15:40,239 --> 01:15:43,070
cunningham

1803
01:15:43,080 --> 01:15:45,520
[Music]

1804
01:15:45,520 --> 01:15:47,600
i we take we will take note of your

1805
01:15:47,600 --> 01:15:50,400
concerns and staff are taking notes uh

1806
01:15:50,400 --> 01:15:52,560
to address those concerns

1807
01:15:52,560 --> 01:15:54,640
in the uh report that will come back to

1808
01:15:54,640 --> 01:15:56,719
council okay thank you

1809
01:15:56,719 --> 01:15:58,640
thank you

1810
01:15:58,640 --> 01:16:00,640
i turned to the clerk for the next

1811
01:16:00,640 --> 01:16:02,719
attendee for the public meeting with

1812
01:16:02,719 --> 01:16:04,000
regard to

1813
01:16:04,000 --> 01:16:06,480
496 main street bath

1814
01:16:06,480 --> 01:16:08,640
uh mr hilson

1815
01:16:08,640 --> 01:16:10,800
mr hilson

1816
01:16:10,800 --> 01:16:14,470
and come on in

1817
01:16:14,480 --> 01:16:17,280
go ahead mr nelson uh my first question

1818
01:16:17,280 --> 01:16:19,600
would be is there any

1819
01:16:19,600 --> 01:16:23,040
allowance for low-income housing in this

1820
01:16:23,040 --> 01:16:25,280
development and i would ask the same

1821
01:16:25,280 --> 01:16:28,400
question of the previous presentation

1822
01:16:28,400 --> 01:16:29,280
uh

1823
01:16:29,280 --> 01:16:32,960
will there be any public access along

1824
01:16:32,960 --> 01:16:35,840
the creek

1825
01:16:35,840 --> 01:16:37,920
for anyone who wants to walk along the

1826
01:16:37,920 --> 01:16:39,360
creek

1827
01:16:39,360 --> 01:16:40,880
as

1828
01:16:40,880 --> 01:16:43,120
is done in new zealand

1829
01:16:43,120 --> 01:16:45,520
where all waterways

1830
01:16:45,520 --> 01:16:48,800
lakes rivers ocean

1831
01:16:48,800 --> 01:16:50,560
nobody can build

1832
01:16:50,560 --> 01:16:53,199
and prevent people from walking along

1833
01:16:53,199 --> 01:16:55,280
the shoreline of any of those water

1834
01:16:55,280 --> 01:16:57,440
features i think that's a wonderful

1835
01:16:57,440 --> 01:16:58,159
thing

1836
01:16:58,159 --> 01:17:00,840
and i've been there so i know what it's

1837
01:17:00,840 --> 01:17:03,360
like those are my questions thank you

1838
01:17:03,360 --> 01:17:04,800
very much

1839
01:17:04,800 --> 01:17:07,600
okay thank you we have those questions

1840
01:17:07,600 --> 01:17:11,280
uh miss furnace or miss uh merritt

1841
01:17:11,280 --> 01:17:13,040
are you able to answer the question with

1842
01:17:13,040 --> 01:17:15,760
regard to public access on the

1843
01:17:15,760 --> 01:17:16,880
waterway

1844
01:17:16,880 --> 01:17:18,159
or would that be something that would

1845
01:17:18,159 --> 01:17:25,110
come forward in the later report

1846
01:17:25,120 --> 01:17:27,360
3d worship i see miss furness is on so

1847
01:17:27,360 --> 01:17:28,960
she may correct me

1848
01:17:28,960 --> 01:17:31,360
uh but as far as the development that

1849
01:17:31,360 --> 01:17:33,600
might be and i i'm not sure that they're

1850
01:17:33,600 --> 01:17:36,000
still able to talk but that might be the

1851
01:17:36,000 --> 01:17:38,560
consultants might be able to propose to

1852
01:17:38,560 --> 01:17:40,400
uh discuss a little bit more of what

1853
01:17:40,400 --> 01:17:41,520
they have

1854
01:17:41,520 --> 01:17:44,880
uh proposed uh as far as

1855
01:17:44,880 --> 01:17:47,120
access to the creek

1856
01:17:47,120 --> 01:17:49,040
ms stookie are you able to respond to

1857
01:17:49,040 --> 01:17:50,480
that

1858
01:17:50,480 --> 01:17:51,360
um

1859
01:17:51,360 --> 01:17:53,199
three and mr chair

1860
01:17:53,199 --> 01:17:55,600
and the

1861
01:17:55,600 --> 01:17:58,000
the proposal does include the dedication

1862
01:17:58,000 --> 01:17:59,760
of block 11

1863
01:17:59,760 --> 01:18:02,320
for conservation and this has been done

1864
01:18:02,320 --> 01:18:04,640
in consultation with the conservation

1865
01:18:04,640 --> 01:18:05,760
authority

1866
01:18:05,760 --> 01:18:07,520
and given that it is a flood plain there

1867
01:18:07,520 --> 01:18:10,640
were some potential safety concerns

1868
01:18:10,640 --> 01:18:12,480
brought up with access but

1869
01:18:12,480 --> 01:18:13,760
um

1870
01:18:13,760 --> 01:18:14,800
the

1871
01:18:14,800 --> 01:18:16,880
owner and developer would be open to

1872
01:18:16,880 --> 01:18:18,960
working with the township and

1873
01:18:18,960 --> 01:18:21,199
conservation authority as the land is

1874
01:18:21,199 --> 01:18:23,280
intended to be dedicated to the township

1875
01:18:23,280 --> 01:18:25,360
for conservation in consultation with

1876
01:18:25,360 --> 01:18:27,040
them

1877
01:18:27,040 --> 01:18:28,560
thank you

1878
01:18:28,560 --> 01:18:30,560
and is anyone able to address the

1879
01:18:30,560 --> 01:18:32,640
question with regard to

1880
01:18:32,640 --> 01:18:36,229
low income housing

1881
01:18:36,239 --> 01:18:37,120
um

1882
01:18:37,120 --> 01:18:38,640
through you the

1883
01:18:38,640 --> 01:18:41,040
they're not designated affordable units

1884
01:18:41,040 --> 01:18:43,760
proposed at this time but 70 detached

1885
01:18:43,760 --> 01:18:45,520
and townhouse dwellings are typically

1886
01:18:45,520 --> 01:18:47,760
more affordable or more attainable

1887
01:18:47,760 --> 01:18:49,040
compared to

1888
01:18:49,040 --> 01:18:51,760
um if singles were developed on the same

1889
01:18:51,760 --> 01:18:55,760
lot um so um no formal partnership with

1890
01:18:55,760 --> 01:18:57,920
affordable housing but the proposed form

1891
01:18:57,920 --> 01:18:59,760
is considered to be a more attainable

1892
01:18:59,760 --> 01:19:01,600
form of housing

1893
01:19:01,600 --> 01:19:02,960
thank you

1894
01:19:02,960 --> 01:19:05,600
again your comments mr hilson will be uh

1895
01:19:05,600 --> 01:19:07,920
recorded and brought forward back in the

1896
01:19:07,920 --> 01:19:10,960
in the report coming back to council

1897
01:19:10,960 --> 01:19:13,040
do you have anything further mr hillson

1898
01:19:13,040 --> 01:19:15,199
no thank you very much

1899
01:19:15,199 --> 01:19:16,400
thank you

1900
01:19:16,400 --> 01:19:19,199
council any questions

1901
01:19:19,199 --> 01:19:21,040
then i'll go to the clerk

1902
01:19:21,040 --> 01:19:24,239
do we have another attendee yes mr

1903
01:19:24,239 --> 01:19:25,440
salter

1904
01:19:25,440 --> 01:19:27,600
mr salter

1905
01:19:27,600 --> 01:19:30,400
welcome mr salter if you could unmute

1906
01:19:30,400 --> 01:19:32,000
can you hear me okay

1907
01:19:32,000 --> 01:19:34,239
yes i have on music can you hear me yes

1908
01:19:34,239 --> 01:19:36,080
we can hear you now do you give us your

1909
01:19:36,080 --> 01:19:37,920
name and address and uh tell us your

1910
01:19:37,920 --> 01:19:39,040
thoughts

1911
01:19:39,040 --> 01:19:42,320
uh david salter 130 factory lane and

1912
01:19:42,320 --> 01:19:44,800
bath just to the south of this proposed

1913
01:19:44,800 --> 01:19:46,640
development

1914
01:19:46,640 --> 01:19:47,520
i've

1915
01:19:47,520 --> 01:19:49,040
read through the

1916
01:19:49,040 --> 01:19:52,800
the staff report sr 1890

1917
01:19:52,800 --> 01:19:54,880
and the parts that struck me

1918
01:19:54,880 --> 01:19:56,880
particularly where it says

1919
01:19:56,880 --> 01:19:57,600
the

1920
01:19:57,600 --> 01:19:59,120
municipality should provide an

1921
01:19:59,120 --> 01:20:01,120
appropriate range and mix of housing

1922
01:20:01,120 --> 01:20:03,199
options and densities

1923
01:20:03,199 --> 01:20:05,280
i should say that in the municipality

1924
01:20:05,280 --> 01:20:07,120
this is being provided

1925
01:20:07,120 --> 01:20:10,320
in several other areas for example off

1926
01:20:10,320 --> 01:20:12,880
highway 6 south of the taylor kid

1927
01:20:12,880 --> 01:20:15,040
and also off spears road

1928
01:20:15,040 --> 01:20:17,120
in all those areas there are multiple

1929
01:20:17,120 --> 01:20:20,239
residential units and the semis

1930
01:20:20,239 --> 01:20:22,320
i don't think it's at all appropriate in

1931
01:20:22,320 --> 01:20:24,880
this particular area

1932
01:20:24,880 --> 01:20:26,080
also

1933
01:20:26,080 --> 01:20:28,560
which i i noticed that the staff report

1934
01:20:28,560 --> 01:20:31,040
had included my comments as well as

1935
01:20:31,040 --> 01:20:32,320
those of all the others who have

1936
01:20:32,320 --> 01:20:34,400
commented however

1937
01:20:34,400 --> 01:20:37,040
i should just like to emphasize again

1938
01:20:37,040 --> 01:20:37,920
that

1939
01:20:37,920 --> 01:20:39,920
there's a requirement

1940
01:20:39,920 --> 01:20:41,760
in the official plan for buffering

1941
01:20:41,760 --> 01:20:44,480
between medium and low density uses

1942
01:20:44,480 --> 01:20:47,120
to minify min to minimize the adverse

1943
01:20:47,120 --> 01:20:48,159
impacts

1944
01:20:48,159 --> 01:20:49,040
and

1945
01:20:49,040 --> 01:20:52,080
the plan as put out now shows no

1946
01:20:52,080 --> 01:20:54,239
buffering at all

1947
01:20:54,239 --> 01:20:56,400
the fire the third point i want to make

1948
01:20:56,400 --> 01:20:57,840
is the

1949
01:20:57,840 --> 01:20:59,040
request

1950
01:20:59,040 --> 01:20:59,920
to

1951
01:20:59,920 --> 01:21:03,120
reduce the side yard front yard

1952
01:21:03,120 --> 01:21:04,000
and

1953
01:21:04,000 --> 01:21:05,840
the various other yards there's very

1954
01:21:05,840 --> 01:21:08,000
large reductions required

1955
01:21:08,000 --> 01:21:09,600
in the official plan

1956
01:21:09,600 --> 01:21:12,480
yard designations and i think that also

1957
01:21:12,480 --> 01:21:15,199
illustrates the fact that this is not a

1958
01:21:15,199 --> 01:21:16,320
suitable

1959
01:21:16,320 --> 01:21:18,239
development for this area as it's

1960
01:21:18,239 --> 01:21:20,560
currently indicated

1961
01:21:20,560 --> 01:21:23,440
thank you

1962
01:21:23,440 --> 01:21:25,040
again i'll turn to staff is there any

1963
01:21:25,040 --> 01:21:27,040
comments with with those particular

1964
01:21:27,040 --> 01:21:33,510
points

1965
01:21:33,520 --> 01:21:36,320
through your worship uh not particularly

1966
01:21:36,320 --> 01:21:37,920
just that we've received the comments

1967
01:21:37,920 --> 01:21:39,440
and all of these comments will be

1968
01:21:39,440 --> 01:21:41,120
considered when we come back to council

1969
01:21:41,120 --> 01:21:42,560
with a report

1970
01:21:42,560 --> 01:21:44,080
thank you very much

1971
01:21:44,080 --> 01:21:46,000
thank you mr salter

1972
01:21:46,000 --> 01:21:47,760
okay

1973
01:21:47,760 --> 01:21:51,440
and i will turn to the clerk for next up

1974
01:21:51,440 --> 01:21:54,719
uh we have catherine murphy

1975
01:21:54,719 --> 01:21:57,199
ms murphy

1976
01:21:57,199 --> 01:21:59,280
can you hear me okay if you could unmute

1977
01:21:59,280 --> 01:22:05,350
we'll find out if we can hear you

1978
01:22:05,360 --> 01:22:22,870
this time you still appear to be muted

1979
01:22:22,880 --> 01:22:26,870
if i can offer a suggestion

1980
01:22:26,880 --> 01:22:28,719
if you have two systems running right

1981
01:22:28,719 --> 01:22:33,350
now turn one of them off

1982
01:22:33,360 --> 01:22:43,510
yes

1983
01:22:43,520 --> 01:22:45,360
there's something your microphone is

1984
01:22:45,360 --> 01:22:49,910
picking up your speakers

1985
01:22:49,920 --> 01:22:55,610
you see

1986
01:22:55,620 --> 01:23:05,510
[Music]

1987
01:23:05,520 --> 01:23:07,679
i'll have to leave it for now

1988
01:23:07,679 --> 01:23:08,719
okay

1989
01:23:08,719 --> 01:23:10,480
if you can still hear me miss murphy we

1990
01:23:10,480 --> 01:23:12,159
would really like you to put your uh

1991
01:23:12,159 --> 01:23:14,719
comments in writing uh or if you can

1992
01:23:14,719 --> 01:23:17,840
join back in a few moments uh with uh

1993
01:23:17,840 --> 01:23:23,669
solving that technical issue thank you

1994
01:23:23,679 --> 01:23:29,910
you've still got the echo

1995
01:23:29,920 --> 01:23:36,790
it's a feedback loop

1996
01:23:36,800 --> 01:23:38,880
okay now that you're muted we can

1997
01:23:38,880 --> 01:23:40,960
hear each other

1998
01:23:40,960 --> 01:23:42,000
um

1999
01:23:42,000 --> 01:23:43,440
again if you can solve the technical

2000
01:23:43,440 --> 01:23:44,960
issue we would invite you back in to

2001
01:23:44,960 --> 01:23:47,360
present but in the meantime we will move

2002
01:23:47,360 --> 01:23:49,840
on to the next presenter and uh if

2003
01:23:49,840 --> 01:23:51,760
you're not able to address that please

2004
01:23:51,760 --> 01:23:53,920
provide it in writing uh through to the

2005
01:23:53,920 --> 01:23:55,040
clerk

2006
01:23:55,040 --> 01:23:56,880
can you hear me now

2007
01:23:56,880 --> 01:23:59,199
we can and there's no echo

2008
01:23:59,199 --> 01:24:00,880
well bev

2009
01:24:00,880 --> 01:24:03,360
excellent go ahead it will be bad form

2010
01:24:03,360 --> 01:24:06,639
and speaking because we're sharing

2011
01:24:06,639 --> 01:24:09,270
um

2012
01:24:09,280 --> 01:24:11,840
hi this is beverly again

2013
01:24:11,840 --> 01:24:14,320
this is beverly hallman

2014
01:24:14,320 --> 01:24:17,280
i live at 483 main street

2015
01:24:17,280 --> 01:24:18,560
okay

2016
01:24:18,560 --> 01:24:20,400
um

2017
01:24:20,400 --> 01:24:23,280
now that i have had to move rooms

2018
01:24:23,280 --> 01:24:25,920
i haven't got a late to show

2019
01:24:25,920 --> 01:24:28,239
what i wanted to talk about

2020
01:24:28,239 --> 01:24:31,280
however um

2021
01:24:31,280 --> 01:24:33,280
the concern what concerns me is the

2022
01:24:33,280 --> 01:24:35,600
historic value of bath

2023
01:24:35,600 --> 01:24:38,159
this is one of the oldest communities

2024
01:24:38,159 --> 01:24:39,920
in ontario

2025
01:24:39,920 --> 01:24:42,880
we have heritage homes up and down the

2026
01:24:42,880 --> 01:24:45,679
street

2027
01:24:45,679 --> 01:24:47,600
and even though

2028
01:24:47,600 --> 01:24:50,400
your consultant is only required to have

2029
01:24:50,400 --> 01:24:51,920
blank blank blank

2030
01:24:51,920 --> 01:24:53,280
and

2031
01:24:53,280 --> 01:24:55,440
only required to

2032
01:24:55,440 --> 01:24:57,600
be under 10 meters and

2033
01:24:57,600 --> 01:24:59,920
i think those rules should be

2034
01:24:59,920 --> 01:25:02,320
put aside because of the historic value

2035
01:25:02,320 --> 01:25:04,960
of this of the town

2036
01:25:04,960 --> 01:25:07,360
we have

2037
01:25:07,360 --> 01:25:08,320
tried

2038
01:25:08,320 --> 01:25:12,000
very hard in bath to keep it in its

2039
01:25:12,000 --> 01:25:13,760
historic

2040
01:25:13,760 --> 01:25:14,800
nature

2041
01:25:14,800 --> 01:25:18,320
we had a lac la lac which was local

2042
01:25:18,320 --> 01:25:20,719
historic conservation

2043
01:25:20,719 --> 01:25:23,600
a lot of people aren't aware of that

2044
01:25:23,600 --> 01:25:24,719
we had

2045
01:25:24,719 --> 01:25:26,639
and we had an historic society we had

2046
01:25:26,639 --> 01:25:28,800
the fairfield goodside house

2047
01:25:28,800 --> 01:25:30,400
we have the

2048
01:25:30,400 --> 01:25:33,199
masonic hall we have the town hall and

2049
01:25:33,199 --> 01:25:35,679
when we resided the town hall there were

2050
01:25:35,679 --> 01:25:38,480
a lot of complaints because we weren't

2051
01:25:38,480 --> 01:25:41,040
staying to the historic nature of bath

2052
01:25:41,040 --> 01:25:44,560
so there are many many people who need

2053
01:25:44,560 --> 01:25:48,080
to have this town remain as it is

2054
01:25:48,080 --> 01:25:49,040
now

2055
01:25:49,040 --> 01:25:52,080
i invite people to take a drive

2056
01:25:52,080 --> 01:25:56,320
into amherst view and particularly on

2057
01:25:56,320 --> 01:25:58,800
walden pond it's called

2058
01:25:58,800 --> 01:26:00,400
to have a look at the homes that are in

2059
01:26:00,400 --> 01:26:01,280
there

2060
01:26:01,280 --> 01:26:03,440
they are chock-a-block on top of each

2061
01:26:03,440 --> 01:26:04,400
other

2062
01:26:04,400 --> 01:26:06,480
they are incredibly tall because a

2063
01:26:06,480 --> 01:26:08,560
walk-out basement evidently isn't a

2064
01:26:08,560 --> 01:26:10,639
walk-out basement out the back a

2065
01:26:10,639 --> 01:26:13,280
walk-out basement is a garage on the

2066
01:26:13,280 --> 01:26:16,000
main floor and then

2067
01:26:16,000 --> 01:26:18,320
above that the main floor of the house

2068
01:26:18,320 --> 01:26:20,400
the living section of the house plus the

2069
01:26:20,400 --> 01:26:22,560
bedrooms on the third floor

2070
01:26:22,560 --> 01:26:25,120
this is taller than anything we have

2071
01:26:25,120 --> 01:26:28,960
here in bass um and as i said

2072
01:26:28,960 --> 01:26:31,679
they're allowed to do it the 10 meters

2073
01:26:31,679 --> 01:26:33,440
is what they're allowed to do

2074
01:26:33,440 --> 01:26:35,520
but we should consider

2075
01:26:35,520 --> 01:26:36,800
that

2076
01:26:36,800 --> 01:26:39,360
in bath we need to maintain the historic

2077
01:26:39,360 --> 01:26:43,030
values

2078
01:26:43,040 --> 01:26:45,360
the first comment or in the first

2079
01:26:45,360 --> 01:26:47,520
comments

2080
01:26:47,520 --> 01:26:49,920
they were talking about medium density

2081
01:26:49,920 --> 01:26:51,360
housing

2082
01:26:51,360 --> 01:26:53,760
and they made no mention whatsoever of

2083
01:26:53,760 --> 01:26:56,719
the 130 homes that are

2084
01:26:56,719 --> 01:26:58,960
going in directly behind here which are

2085
01:26:58,960 --> 01:27:01,440
medium density so we are not lacking in

2086
01:27:01,440 --> 01:27:03,280
medium density homes

2087
01:27:03,280 --> 01:27:05,840
in bath

2088
01:27:05,840 --> 01:27:06,639
so

2089
01:27:06,639 --> 01:27:08,800
plus there are many other subdivisions

2090
01:27:08,800 --> 01:27:12,950
going in

2091
01:27:12,960 --> 01:27:14,400
one other comment

2092
01:27:14,400 --> 01:27:16,560
cash in lieu of parkland

2093
01:27:16,560 --> 01:27:18,560
what's that going to do for the village

2094
01:27:18,560 --> 01:27:21,520
what's that going to do for the the

2095
01:27:21,520 --> 01:27:22,880
it's going to give you money in your

2096
01:27:22,880 --> 01:27:24,800
pocket to do something but

2097
01:27:24,800 --> 01:27:26,880
it's not going to give our children

2098
01:27:26,880 --> 01:27:29,199
places to play i'm directly across the

2099
01:27:29,199 --> 01:27:33,840
street from this place and um

2100
01:27:33,840 --> 01:27:35,760
it's just uh

2101
01:27:35,760 --> 01:27:38,080
amazing to me that they could consider

2102
01:27:38,080 --> 01:27:39,840
putting

2103
01:27:39,840 --> 01:27:41,920
such a

2104
01:27:41,920 --> 01:27:44,320
i don't even know what to call it such

2105
01:27:44,320 --> 01:27:45,760
so many

2106
01:27:45,760 --> 01:27:46,880
houses

2107
01:27:46,880 --> 01:27:49,280
on that tiny piece of land

2108
01:27:49,280 --> 01:27:50,400
um

2109
01:27:50,400 --> 01:27:52,080
so

2110
01:27:52,080 --> 01:27:54,550
um

2111
01:27:54,560 --> 01:27:57,199
also when when we went in to have a look

2112
01:27:57,199 --> 01:27:59,120
at walden pond

2113
01:27:59,120 --> 01:28:00,880
which is um

2114
01:28:00,880 --> 01:28:03,440
in amherst view as i said and it's

2115
01:28:03,440 --> 01:28:06,159
walkout basements which are actually the

2116
01:28:06,159 --> 01:28:07,520
main the

2117
01:28:07,520 --> 01:28:10,400
floor on the ground floor is the walkout

2118
01:28:10,400 --> 01:28:12,960
basement so then the living quarters are

2119
01:28:12,960 --> 01:28:16,719
above that and above that again

2120
01:28:16,719 --> 01:28:18,960
there was an incredible amount of

2121
01:28:18,960 --> 01:28:20,080
parking

2122
01:28:20,080 --> 01:28:22,320
on the street

2123
01:28:22,320 --> 01:28:24,719
there were cars all over the street

2124
01:28:24,719 --> 01:28:25,679
we

2125
01:28:25,679 --> 01:28:27,760
couldn't get down the street without

2126
01:28:27,760 --> 01:28:29,920
swerving back and forth to go around

2127
01:28:29,920 --> 01:28:31,840
cars that were parked there

2128
01:28:31,840 --> 01:28:34,080
so um

2129
01:28:34,080 --> 01:28:36,159
i think

2130
01:28:36,159 --> 01:28:38,159
that you're dreaming if you think that

2131
01:28:38,159 --> 01:28:40,239
there's not going to be a parking

2132
01:28:40,239 --> 01:28:43,280
problem on this street especially with

2133
01:28:43,280 --> 01:28:44,560
fire trucks

2134
01:28:44,560 --> 01:28:47,360
and emergency vehicles getting in there

2135
01:28:47,360 --> 01:28:49,440
um

2136
01:28:49,440 --> 01:28:52,000
and the every house has at least two

2137
01:28:52,000 --> 01:28:54,400
cars if not three

2138
01:28:54,400 --> 01:28:56,480
and there's just definitely not enough

2139
01:28:56,480 --> 01:28:58,800
parking and they will park on the street

2140
01:28:58,800 --> 01:29:01,120
and they will possibly park

2141
01:29:01,120 --> 01:29:03,520
on other streets that are nearby

2142
01:29:03,520 --> 01:29:04,800
and um

2143
01:29:04,800 --> 01:29:07,679
this is a this is a problem in bath

2144
01:29:07,679 --> 01:29:08,880
uh

2145
01:29:08,880 --> 01:29:10,719
we're just an accident waiting to happen

2146
01:29:10,719 --> 01:29:12,320
on that main street

2147
01:29:12,320 --> 01:29:15,040
anyway that's my comments for now

2148
01:29:15,040 --> 01:29:17,280
uh thank you very much for hearing me

2149
01:29:17,280 --> 01:29:18,960
thank you very much ma'am

2150
01:29:18,960 --> 01:29:21,920
and uh there's no other comments from

2151
01:29:21,920 --> 01:29:25,120
questions from council and

2152
01:29:25,120 --> 01:29:27,360
i'm seeing none i'll say thank you and

2153
01:29:27,360 --> 01:29:31,440
we'll move to our next commenter

2154
01:29:31,440 --> 01:29:32,639
madam clerk

2155
01:29:32,639 --> 01:29:36,320
uh we have mr cunningham again

2156
01:29:36,320 --> 01:29:39,040
before i return to mr cunningham

2157
01:29:39,040 --> 01:29:40,639
i'm wondering that we do have a lot of

2158
01:29:40,639 --> 01:29:43,280
people in attendance and in the audience

2159
01:29:43,280 --> 01:29:45,760
uh is there anyone else who wishes to

2160
01:29:45,760 --> 01:29:50,709
present a new person to present

2161
01:29:50,719 --> 01:29:53,199
if there are no furthers oh

2162
01:29:53,199 --> 01:29:57,030
i see a few coming in

2163
01:29:57,040 --> 01:29:58,719
madam clerk if you could go to the next

2164
01:29:58,719 --> 01:30:01,430
one

2165
01:30:01,440 --> 01:30:08,629
uh well uh allowed to speak up

2166
01:30:08,639 --> 01:30:10,480
hi this is uh

2167
01:30:10,480 --> 01:30:13,920
hi this is mark kant uh i live at 335

2168
01:30:13,920 --> 01:30:16,719
division street in kingston but

2169
01:30:16,719 --> 01:30:20,560
i'm the estate trustee for the home of

2170
01:30:20,560 --> 01:30:23,760
leon and teresa cant at 517 main street

2171
01:30:23,760 --> 01:30:24,800
bath

2172
01:30:24,800 --> 01:30:27,520
thank you where i grew up

2173
01:30:27,520 --> 01:30:30,950
and

2174
01:30:30,960 --> 01:30:32,880
my main concern

2175
01:30:32,880 --> 01:30:34,800
is that i'm reading through the uh

2176
01:30:34,800 --> 01:30:36,400
council report

2177
01:30:36,400 --> 01:30:38,800
uh staff report

2178
01:30:38,800 --> 01:30:40,239
and such

2179
01:30:40,239 --> 01:30:41,520
a lot of people

2180
01:30:41,520 --> 01:30:44,639
seem to be thinking of the site as

2181
01:30:44,639 --> 01:30:47,199
having been a restaurant which yes it

2182
01:30:47,199 --> 01:30:48,639
was for

2183
01:30:48,639 --> 01:30:50,639
a good many years before it was a

2184
01:30:50,639 --> 01:30:54,719
restaurant it was a fish cannery

2185
01:30:54,719 --> 01:30:57,760
and uh the fish were dropped off at the

2186
01:30:57,760 --> 01:30:58,560
uh

2187
01:30:58,560 --> 01:31:00,960
wharf at the bottom of the factory lane

2188
01:31:00,960 --> 01:31:03,520
uh taken from lake ontario

2189
01:31:03,520 --> 01:31:06,239
back in the 40s and 50s and such

2190
01:31:06,239 --> 01:31:08,880
brought up to the cannery for cleaning

2191
01:31:08,880 --> 01:31:10,239
and

2192
01:31:10,239 --> 01:31:12,080
packaging

2193
01:31:12,080 --> 01:31:13,920
then there's

2194
01:31:13,920 --> 01:31:17,600
fish waste coming from it uh parts that

2195
01:31:17,600 --> 01:31:18,800
obviously you don't want to find on

2196
01:31:18,800 --> 01:31:20,480
cattle fish

2197
01:31:20,480 --> 01:31:22,000
uh

2198
01:31:22,000 --> 01:31:25,199
back in summer of 1982 i worked for the

2199
01:31:25,199 --> 01:31:27,840
village bath going through its back

2200
01:31:27,840 --> 01:31:29,120
records

2201
01:31:29,120 --> 01:31:30,480
basically

2202
01:31:30,480 --> 01:31:32,560
helping to trim out stuff that was no

2203
01:31:32,560 --> 01:31:35,760
longer needed i saw no records

2204
01:31:35,760 --> 01:31:37,199
with respect to

2205
01:31:37,199 --> 01:31:39,840
the fish cannery at the time

2206
01:31:39,840 --> 01:31:40,800
but

2207
01:31:40,800 --> 01:31:42,320
honestly

2208
01:31:42,320 --> 01:31:46,239
back in the 40s the 50s the early 60s

2209
01:31:46,239 --> 01:31:48,000
environmental stuff was not really a

2210
01:31:48,000 --> 01:31:49,840
consideration

2211
01:31:49,840 --> 01:31:52,080
and disposal of

2212
01:31:52,080 --> 01:31:55,280
waste was not so much a consideration

2213
01:31:55,280 --> 01:31:56,480
there's

2214
01:31:56,480 --> 01:31:59,120
as well understanding of pollution in

2215
01:31:59,120 --> 01:32:00,400
the fish

2216
01:32:00,400 --> 01:32:02,320
particularly in the great lakes was

2217
01:32:02,320 --> 01:32:04,639
definitely not a consideration yet

2218
01:32:04,639 --> 01:32:06,719
i remember in the 70s when that started

2219
01:32:06,719 --> 01:32:08,400
to be understood and

2220
01:32:08,400 --> 01:32:10,719
was something of a surprise

2221
01:32:10,719 --> 01:32:12,960
because i was a kid at the time had

2222
01:32:12,960 --> 01:32:15,120
fishing on the

2223
01:32:15,120 --> 01:32:16,400
dock

2224
01:32:16,400 --> 01:32:19,280
out in front of the house

2225
01:32:19,280 --> 01:32:21,750
the

2226
01:32:21,760 --> 01:32:25,750
wastes from the fish

2227
01:32:25,760 --> 01:32:27,520
i'm not sure where it was disposed but

2228
01:32:27,520 --> 01:32:29,520
there is potential it was exposed on the

2229
01:32:29,520 --> 01:32:32,070
site

2230
01:32:32,080 --> 01:32:34,080
buried in the ground there

2231
01:32:34,080 --> 01:32:35,280
from what i'm

2232
01:32:35,280 --> 01:32:37,520
seeing in staff reports there was an

2233
01:32:37,520 --> 01:32:39,760
understanding that there wasn't

2234
01:32:39,760 --> 01:32:41,840
the potential of an environmental risk

2235
01:32:41,840 --> 01:32:42,960
there

2236
01:32:42,960 --> 01:32:45,840
my understanding is that if it was

2237
01:32:45,840 --> 01:32:48,480
buried on the site or burnt on the site

2238
01:32:48,480 --> 01:32:49,840
or whatever

2239
01:32:49,840 --> 01:32:51,760
you're dealing with the pollutants the

2240
01:32:51,760 --> 01:32:53,520
fish would have had

2241
01:32:53,520 --> 01:32:55,600
including mercury

2242
01:32:55,600 --> 01:32:57,600
which would be in the soil

2243
01:32:57,600 --> 01:32:59,920
i would recommend before

2244
01:32:59,920 --> 01:33:02,239
proceeding with housing development on

2245
01:33:02,239 --> 01:33:03,920
that site

2246
01:33:03,920 --> 01:33:06,159
to double check the soil

2247
01:33:06,159 --> 01:33:07,679
if necessary

2248
01:33:07,679 --> 01:33:08,480
some

2249
01:33:08,480 --> 01:33:10,960
remediation happening

2250
01:33:10,960 --> 01:33:12,880
obviously

2251
01:33:12,880 --> 01:33:14,480
operating something like a restaurant

2252
01:33:14,480 --> 01:33:16,000
where people are in and out quickly

2253
01:33:16,000 --> 01:33:17,679
enough

2254
01:33:17,679 --> 01:33:19,440
uh everything's contained within the

2255
01:33:19,440 --> 01:33:21,520
building is a different thing from

2256
01:33:21,520 --> 01:33:24,639
kids playing in the backyard

2257
01:33:24,639 --> 01:33:25,679
and

2258
01:33:25,679 --> 01:33:26,719
so that

2259
01:33:26,719 --> 01:33:35,590
for all we know could be contaminated

2260
01:33:35,600 --> 01:33:38,159
okay mr kent

2261
01:33:38,159 --> 01:33:39,520
yeah

2262
01:33:39,520 --> 01:33:41,280
thank you very much for those comments

2263
01:33:41,280 --> 01:33:42,400
uh

2264
01:33:42,400 --> 01:33:44,800
i will ask staff if they have any uh

2265
01:33:44,800 --> 01:33:46,400
comments with regard to an environmental

2266
01:33:46,400 --> 01:33:50,709
assessment on the property

2267
01:33:50,719 --> 01:33:52,639
yes through you mr mayor i can confirm

2268
01:33:52,639 --> 01:33:56,000
that one was required um any um and a

2269
01:33:56,000 --> 01:33:57,679
record of site condition was submitted

2270
01:33:57,679 --> 01:33:59,520
um as part of the application for this

2271
01:33:59,520 --> 01:34:01,280
so which is currently being reviewed by

2272
01:34:01,280 --> 01:34:04,000
staff as part of the technical review so

2273
01:34:04,000 --> 01:34:05,600
record of site conditions are required

2274
01:34:05,600 --> 01:34:07,199
and issued by the ministry of

2275
01:34:07,199 --> 01:34:10,400
environment conservation and parks um to

2276
01:34:10,400 --> 01:34:12,639
confirm that the analysis that was done

2277
01:34:12,639 --> 01:34:14,320
and proper cleanup and everything was

2278
01:34:14,320 --> 01:34:17,159
completed in order to change a

2279
01:34:17,159 --> 01:34:19,360
non-residential use and and switch it to

2280
01:34:19,360 --> 01:34:21,760
a more um residential one so we can't

2281
01:34:21,760 --> 01:34:23,920
we're not permitted to um

2282
01:34:23,920 --> 01:34:26,000
recommend approval for for changing the

2283
01:34:26,000 --> 01:34:28,320
site to residential um unless that has

2284
01:34:28,320 --> 01:34:31,679
been submitted and is satisfactory

2285
01:34:31,679 --> 01:34:32,880
thank you

2286
01:34:32,880 --> 01:34:34,159
and to your understanding it is

2287
01:34:34,159 --> 01:34:36,639
satisfactory

2288
01:34:36,639 --> 01:34:38,000
and that's what

2289
01:34:38,000 --> 01:34:40,800
go ahead okay

2290
01:34:40,800 --> 01:34:42,320
that's what it had that's what it had

2291
01:34:42,320 --> 01:34:44,000
indicated but we're currently re

2292
01:34:44,000 --> 01:34:46,080
reviewing it all and to ensure that our

2293
01:34:46,080 --> 01:34:47,520
engineering team

2294
01:34:47,520 --> 01:34:49,440
and the final comments from staff on

2295
01:34:49,440 --> 01:34:50,960
that will be included in the final

2296
01:34:50,960 --> 01:34:52,080
report

2297
01:34:52,080 --> 01:34:55,040
yes that's correct yes okay thank you mr

2298
01:34:55,040 --> 01:34:58,070
kent

2299
01:34:58,080 --> 01:34:59,679
are there others in the audience who

2300
01:34:59,679 --> 01:35:03,590
wish to present

2301
01:35:03,600 --> 01:35:07,440
we have uh rick and ann myers

2302
01:35:07,440 --> 01:35:09,280
welcome them in

2303
01:35:09,280 --> 01:35:11,600
mr mr myers

2304
01:35:11,600 --> 01:35:16,390
did we lose them

2305
01:35:16,400 --> 01:35:17,840
they don't appear on my screen oh

2306
01:35:17,840 --> 01:35:20,470
they're there

2307
01:35:20,480 --> 01:35:23,199
i'm pushing the enemy

2308
01:35:23,199 --> 01:35:24,480
and can

2309
01:35:24,480 --> 01:35:27,199
can you hear me we can hear you yes okay

2310
01:35:27,199 --> 01:35:28,560
excellent thank you give us your name

2311
01:35:28,560 --> 01:35:31,119
and address make your comments please

2312
01:35:31,119 --> 01:35:34,239
thank you it's uh rick myers 23 country

2313
01:35:34,239 --> 01:35:35,440
club drive

2314
01:35:35,440 --> 01:35:39,040
in bath and we back on to the bath creek

2315
01:35:39,040 --> 01:35:41,199
along our south side

2316
01:35:41,199 --> 01:35:44,080
just a couple of quick questions to

2317
01:35:44,080 --> 01:35:46,000
ibi group

2318
01:35:46,000 --> 01:35:47,760
number one they talked about she talked

2319
01:35:47,760 --> 01:35:50,310
about

2320
01:35:50,320 --> 01:35:52,560
not removing trees or

2321
01:35:52,560 --> 01:35:55,119
trying to avoid to remove trees

2322
01:35:55,119 --> 01:35:56,480
if necessary

2323
01:35:56,480 --> 01:35:58,400
now they're along that property front

2324
01:35:58,400 --> 01:36:00,560
there are a number of rather large trees

2325
01:36:00,560 --> 01:36:02,400
that

2326
01:36:02,400 --> 01:36:04,080
they're saying they can't don't have to

2327
01:36:04,080 --> 01:36:05,280
remove but

2328
01:36:05,280 --> 01:36:07,280
based on the plans that you currently

2329
01:36:07,280 --> 01:36:11,520
have for for that density i'd be

2330
01:36:11,520 --> 01:36:13,600
rather miffed at how you could possibly

2331
01:36:13,600 --> 01:36:15,360
not remove those trees in order to get

2332
01:36:15,360 --> 01:36:18,159
those houses in there that's number one

2333
01:36:18,159 --> 01:36:20,080
number two you talk about two parking

2334
01:36:20,080 --> 01:36:22,400
spots

2335
01:36:22,400 --> 01:36:25,040
what are you considering two parking

2336
01:36:25,040 --> 01:36:27,280
spots obviously the driveway

2337
01:36:27,280 --> 01:36:28,800
are you considering the garage as

2338
01:36:28,800 --> 01:36:31,520
another parking spot

2339
01:36:31,520 --> 01:36:33,920
that's my second question

2340
01:36:33,920 --> 01:36:36,560
my third question is to the

2341
01:36:36,560 --> 01:36:39,520
council itself is the the water issue

2342
01:36:39,520 --> 01:36:42,080
along there as you know you improved

2343
01:36:42,080 --> 01:36:44,320
that area just recently

2344
01:36:44,320 --> 01:36:45,520
but still

2345
01:36:45,520 --> 01:36:47,040
if you've ever driven

2346
01:36:47,040 --> 01:36:49,679
uh along main street

2347
01:36:49,679 --> 01:36:52,400
during a rainstorm or shortly thereafter

2348
01:36:52,400 --> 01:36:54,239
there are still a number of issues with

2349
01:36:54,239 --> 01:36:55,840
water

2350
01:36:55,840 --> 01:36:58,560
flooding the street

2351
01:36:58,560 --> 01:37:00,239
also

2352
01:37:00,239 --> 01:37:03,360
that's something to consider

2353
01:37:03,360 --> 01:37:05,440
the traffic

2354
01:37:05,440 --> 01:37:08,239
issue is going to be

2355
01:37:08,239 --> 01:37:10,080
a major concern

2356
01:37:10,080 --> 01:37:11,760
as council knows

2357
01:37:11,760 --> 01:37:13,119
phase 8

2358
01:37:13,119 --> 01:37:17,159
the caitlyn project is quickly coming to

2359
01:37:17,159 --> 01:37:19,040
a point where they're going to be

2360
01:37:19,040 --> 01:37:20,800
building homes

2361
01:37:20,800 --> 01:37:23,600
now out of that subdivision there is

2362
01:37:23,600 --> 01:37:25,600
only one exit

2363
01:37:25,600 --> 01:37:28,239
and that is country club drive

2364
01:37:28,239 --> 01:37:30,239
out onto main street

2365
01:37:30,239 --> 01:37:32,880
so you're talking a substantial increase

2366
01:37:32,880 --> 01:37:35,199
in traffic going

2367
01:37:35,199 --> 01:37:38,159
east and west on main street

2368
01:37:38,159 --> 01:37:39,760
and now you're going to add

2369
01:37:39,760 --> 01:37:40,800
another

2370
01:37:40,800 --> 01:37:42,800
22 residents

2371
01:37:42,800 --> 01:37:46,159
in a area that's low density and should

2372
01:37:46,159 --> 01:37:49,520
remain low density

2373
01:37:49,520 --> 01:37:52,239
my other concern is

2374
01:37:52,239 --> 01:37:54,080
ibi talked about

2375
01:37:54,080 --> 01:37:56,639
two to two and a half stories

2376
01:37:56,639 --> 01:37:59,040
what are you putting in a half story

2377
01:37:59,040 --> 01:38:00,719
on top of that house

2378
01:38:00,719 --> 01:38:02,320
i can see a two-story i can see a

2379
01:38:02,320 --> 01:38:04,480
three-story but what in tarnation is a

2380
01:38:04,480 --> 01:38:06,400
half a story

2381
01:38:06,400 --> 01:38:10,390
so i'd like that answered

2382
01:38:10,400 --> 01:38:12,880
and finally uh the building that's there

2383
01:38:12,880 --> 01:38:17,199
itself is obviously owned by

2384
01:38:17,199 --> 01:38:18,239
or

2385
01:38:18,239 --> 01:38:20,639
ibm or whoever owns it

2386
01:38:20,639 --> 01:38:23,199
has it been examined for asbestos and if

2387
01:38:23,199 --> 01:38:24,719
it has been

2388
01:38:24,719 --> 01:38:26,800
what were the results

2389
01:38:26,800 --> 01:38:28,000
from that

2390
01:38:28,000 --> 01:38:31,199
so those are my questions okay thank you

2391
01:38:31,199 --> 01:38:32,719
sir there was a number of questions

2392
01:38:32,719 --> 01:38:34,400
there and i see uh

2393
01:38:34,400 --> 01:38:36,080
our representative from the ibi group

2394
01:38:36,080 --> 01:38:37,760
has come on screen

2395
01:38:37,760 --> 01:38:38,960
right

2396
01:38:38,960 --> 01:38:40,719
stuki are you able to answer some of

2397
01:38:40,719 --> 01:38:42,480
those i know that our staff have

2398
01:38:42,480 --> 01:38:44,719
recorded all of those questions and it

2399
01:38:44,719 --> 01:38:47,199
will be included in in the report but

2400
01:38:47,199 --> 01:38:49,119
miss tooky if you have answers right

2401
01:38:49,119 --> 01:38:51,760
this moment you can go ahead

2402
01:38:51,760 --> 01:38:54,159
yes thank you i'm three year worship

2403
01:38:54,159 --> 01:38:56,080
um i'll comment first on the comment

2404
01:38:56,080 --> 01:38:57,360
about

2405
01:38:57,360 --> 01:38:59,760
trees so the

2406
01:38:59,760 --> 01:39:01,600
property will be subject to like a

2407
01:39:01,600 --> 01:39:03,840
landscaping plan and tree removal and

2408
01:39:03,840 --> 01:39:06,080
preservation plan intention would be to

2409
01:39:06,080 --> 01:39:07,840
preserve trees where possible it is

2410
01:39:07,840 --> 01:39:09,920
quite a large municipal

2411
01:39:09,920 --> 01:39:11,520
right-of-way in front of the property so

2412
01:39:11,520 --> 01:39:13,520
there may be instances where the trees

2413
01:39:13,520 --> 01:39:15,520
are within the boulevard

2414
01:39:15,520 --> 01:39:17,520
and can be preserved as well and new

2415
01:39:17,520 --> 01:39:19,199
plantings will be provided so that

2416
01:39:19,199 --> 01:39:22,080
detail is to follow

2417
01:39:22,080 --> 01:39:23,440
but will be looked at as part of the

2418
01:39:23,440 --> 01:39:26,159
townships review i can confirm that yes

2419
01:39:26,159 --> 01:39:28,080
one of the two parking spaces is in the

2420
01:39:28,080 --> 01:39:29,920
garage so there's a parking space in the

2421
01:39:29,920 --> 01:39:31,679
garage and a parking space in the

2422
01:39:31,679 --> 01:39:32,880
driveway

2423
01:39:32,880 --> 01:39:34,880
and then in terms of the two and a half

2424
01:39:34,880 --> 01:39:36,719
stories typically the half story would

2425
01:39:36,719 --> 01:39:37,600
be

2426
01:39:37,600 --> 01:39:38,719
[Music]

2427
01:39:38,719 --> 01:39:41,280
one with a peaked roof like a story with

2428
01:39:41,280 --> 01:39:43,920
the peak roof and you see the um

2429
01:39:43,920 --> 01:39:45,440
the one rendering show the dormer

2430
01:39:45,440 --> 01:39:47,360
windows

2431
01:39:47,360 --> 01:39:48,560
um

2432
01:39:48,560 --> 01:39:51,679
and in terms of asbestos testing

2433
01:39:51,679 --> 01:39:53,520
um

2434
01:39:53,520 --> 01:39:55,440
i'll reiterate again the phase one

2435
01:39:55,440 --> 01:39:57,840
environmental assessment was completed

2436
01:39:57,840 --> 01:39:59,920
and any demolition

2437
01:39:59,920 --> 01:40:03,119
of the existing building would be

2438
01:40:03,119 --> 01:40:04,719
contained and done according to all

2439
01:40:04,719 --> 01:40:07,590
regulations

2440
01:40:07,600 --> 01:40:11,910
thank you

2441
01:40:11,920 --> 01:40:13,840
mr myers

2442
01:40:13,840 --> 01:40:15,440
you've heard the comments and again

2443
01:40:15,440 --> 01:40:17,600
these these questions will be recorded

2444
01:40:17,600 --> 01:40:22,149
and answered in the final report

2445
01:40:22,159 --> 01:40:25,600
just just for council to consider uh

2446
01:40:25,600 --> 01:40:26,719
if you

2447
01:40:26,719 --> 01:40:29,840
have been into westbrook

2448
01:40:29,840 --> 01:40:33,199
where they've built those uh row houses

2449
01:40:33,199 --> 01:40:35,920
along highway two

2450
01:40:35,920 --> 01:40:38,719
yeah highway two there

2451
01:40:38,719 --> 01:40:41,040
again that's the type typical type of

2452
01:40:41,040 --> 01:40:42,560
residence where they say there's two

2453
01:40:42,560 --> 01:40:44,159
parking spots

2454
01:40:44,159 --> 01:40:45,199
and

2455
01:40:45,199 --> 01:40:47,520
as you can see they they are small uh

2456
01:40:47,520 --> 01:40:49,119
townhouses and there's nothing wrong

2457
01:40:49,119 --> 01:40:50,970
with townhouses

2458
01:40:50,970 --> 01:40:52,880
[Music]

2459
01:40:52,880 --> 01:40:54,639
the garage is full of everything but a

2460
01:40:54,639 --> 01:40:55,840
car

2461
01:40:55,840 --> 01:40:58,159
they have one car in the driveway

2462
01:40:58,159 --> 01:41:00,080
and they have cars and trucks lining

2463
01:41:00,080 --> 01:41:00,880
that

2464
01:41:00,880 --> 01:41:02,639
little street there

2465
01:41:02,639 --> 01:41:04,000
and that's exactly what's going to

2466
01:41:04,000 --> 01:41:07,840
happen with the ibi group project in

2467
01:41:07,840 --> 01:41:09,520
bath

2468
01:41:09,520 --> 01:41:11,679
it's these things that they say oh well

2469
01:41:11,679 --> 01:41:14,400
you've got two parking spots

2470
01:41:14,400 --> 01:41:16,400
one in the garage yeah right

2471
01:41:16,400 --> 01:41:17,920
i have a two-car garage and i have a

2472
01:41:17,920 --> 01:41:20,080
hard time getting my one car

2473
01:41:20,080 --> 01:41:22,400
uh with all the stuff one has and

2474
01:41:22,400 --> 01:41:23,440
collects

2475
01:41:23,440 --> 01:41:25,760
cooling lawnmowers and snowblowers and

2476
01:41:25,760 --> 01:41:26,880
so forth

2477
01:41:26,880 --> 01:41:28,480
but nevertheless i

2478
01:41:28,480 --> 01:41:31,280
i'm certainly uh

2479
01:41:31,280 --> 01:41:34,080
supportive of this type of group coming

2480
01:41:34,080 --> 01:41:36,159
in and wanting to do something to for

2481
01:41:36,159 --> 01:41:37,840
the betterment of bath and bringing new

2482
01:41:37,840 --> 01:41:39,280
people to bath

2483
01:41:39,280 --> 01:41:41,119
i just think that they're

2484
01:41:41,119 --> 01:41:42,960
they're being

2485
01:41:42,960 --> 01:41:45,199
overly

2486
01:41:45,199 --> 01:41:47,520
optimistic and thinking that

2487
01:41:47,520 --> 01:41:50,880
that many units could really have any

2488
01:41:50,880 --> 01:41:52,080
um

2489
01:41:52,080 --> 01:41:53,600
any uh

2490
01:41:53,600 --> 01:41:55,679
way it could uh

2491
01:41:55,679 --> 01:41:57,040
make bath

2492
01:41:57,040 --> 01:41:58,239
better

2493
01:41:58,239 --> 01:42:00,239
we have lots of uh places that are being

2494
01:42:00,239 --> 01:42:03,119
built as the former person spoke about

2495
01:42:03,119 --> 01:42:06,080
uh phase eight for one uh the new

2496
01:42:06,080 --> 01:42:08,480
subdivision that's going in beside fast

2497
01:42:08,480 --> 01:42:10,560
freddy's in that mall area up there

2498
01:42:10,560 --> 01:42:13,199
which is quite large as well

2499
01:42:13,199 --> 01:42:16,480
we're not really hard-pressed for those

2500
01:42:16,480 --> 01:42:17,920
types of

2501
01:42:17,920 --> 01:42:19,199
of

2502
01:42:19,199 --> 01:42:20,960
dwellings

2503
01:42:20,960 --> 01:42:22,719
being stuck in the middle of a

2504
01:42:22,719 --> 01:42:26,080
low-density uh area such as

2505
01:42:26,080 --> 01:42:28,719
what they're proposing now uh

2506
01:42:28,719 --> 01:42:30,719
like i say i certainly propose the

2507
01:42:30,719 --> 01:42:33,040
growth of bath and i'd like to see it

2508
01:42:33,040 --> 01:42:35,360
grow but i think they're just being over

2509
01:42:35,360 --> 01:42:37,119
optimistic in what they want the plan

2510
01:42:37,119 --> 01:42:39,119
there and they should really consider

2511
01:42:39,119 --> 01:42:40,960
about going back to the the drawing

2512
01:42:40,960 --> 01:42:43,679
board on this one thank you

2513
01:42:43,679 --> 01:42:45,600
thank you mr myers

2514
01:42:45,600 --> 01:42:46,719
okay

2515
01:42:46,719 --> 01:42:48,719
i come back to the clerk is there anyone

2516
01:42:48,719 --> 01:42:51,040
anything further anyone else that wishes

2517
01:42:51,040 --> 01:42:52,639
to speak

2518
01:42:52,639 --> 01:42:55,440
uh i have mr cunningham with his hand up

2519
01:42:55,440 --> 01:42:57,679
i'm not sure whether he's

2520
01:42:57,679 --> 01:42:58,639
and

2521
01:42:58,639 --> 01:43:01,199
i'll let's bring mr cunningham in verb a

2522
01:43:01,199 --> 01:43:05,119
brief comment and i will reiterate brief

2523
01:43:05,119 --> 01:43:07,520
he's removed his uh

2524
01:43:07,520 --> 01:43:11,040
oh he's removed his hand yes okay

2525
01:43:11,040 --> 01:43:13,760
thank you not seeing any uh nope nope

2526
01:43:13,760 --> 01:43:17,830
it's back up again

2527
01:43:17,840 --> 01:43:21,280
i'll give him one final option

2528
01:43:21,280 --> 01:43:23,440
okay should be able to unmute mr

2529
01:43:23,440 --> 01:43:25,119
cunningham if you can hear me you can

2530
01:43:25,119 --> 01:43:26,800
unmute and give us your final cut

2531
01:43:26,800 --> 01:43:29,840
thoughts oh i'm unmuted

2532
01:43:29,840 --> 01:43:32,320
go ahead okay i i would i'm thinking

2533
01:43:32,320 --> 01:43:35,199
that regarding the uh what mr meyer had

2534
01:43:35,199 --> 01:43:37,040
said and i totally agree

2535
01:43:37,040 --> 01:43:38,719
with them but it's

2536
01:43:38,719 --> 01:43:40,400
if they decide to build something in

2537
01:43:40,400 --> 01:43:42,080
there that's got to

2538
01:43:42,080 --> 01:43:45,199
it's got to be like what's there now

2539
01:43:45,199 --> 01:43:46,639
we're not i don't think we're already

2540
01:43:46,639 --> 01:43:49,360
against them building it's just what

2541
01:43:49,360 --> 01:43:51,119
they're going to build in there which

2542
01:43:51,119 --> 01:43:53,760
was which which is the big question

2543
01:43:53,760 --> 01:43:56,000
this is what all what i think

2544
01:43:56,000 --> 01:43:58,159
and that's i know there's a couple and i

2545
01:43:58,159 --> 01:44:00,239
think the environmental studies really

2546
01:44:00,239 --> 01:44:03,119
got really got to be looked at before

2547
01:44:03,119 --> 01:44:06,000
that that project goes

2548
01:44:06,000 --> 01:44:07,679
that's all i have to say

2549
01:44:07,679 --> 01:44:10,000
okay thank you very much mr cunningham

2550
01:44:10,000 --> 01:44:13,119
and you're welcome okay

2551
01:44:13,119 --> 01:44:14,719
anyone else

2552
01:44:14,719 --> 01:44:17,280
look at the final call oh we i see mr

2553
01:44:17,280 --> 01:44:19,520
hudayson's hand up again

2554
01:44:19,520 --> 01:44:32,550
hopefully they'll be able to chime in

2555
01:44:32,560 --> 01:44:37,350
are we able to bring them in madam clerk

2556
01:44:37,360 --> 01:44:43,350
um

2557
01:44:43,360 --> 01:44:45,760
they have to accept to come over i'm

2558
01:44:45,760 --> 01:44:51,750
trying to move them into the

2559
01:44:51,760 --> 01:44:54,960
okay we can see mr hudayson in the main

2560
01:44:54,960 --> 01:44:56,000
area

2561
01:44:56,000 --> 01:45:00,080
if he is able to unmute

2562
01:45:00,080 --> 01:45:03,679
he's welcome to provide us comments

2563
01:45:03,679 --> 01:45:09,109
mr hudeisen are you able to unmute

2564
01:45:09,119 --> 01:45:14,709
it might be gene as well mr dason

2565
01:45:14,719 --> 01:45:17,280
i'm not seeing them being able to unmute

2566
01:45:17,280 --> 01:45:21,430
we cannot hear you yet

2567
01:45:21,440 --> 01:45:24,159
so there will be a button um i'm just

2568
01:45:24,159 --> 01:45:26,400
asking them to unmute they should just

2569
01:45:26,400 --> 01:45:29,760
be able to tap on that and then be able

2570
01:45:29,760 --> 01:45:34,229
to speak

2571
01:45:34,239 --> 01:45:36,159
it looks like a microphone

2572
01:45:36,159 --> 01:45:40,149
on my screen anyway

2573
01:45:40,159 --> 01:45:41,119
yeah

2574
01:45:41,119 --> 01:45:43,520
there you are we can hear you joe

2575
01:45:43,520 --> 01:45:44,800
hello

2576
01:45:44,800 --> 01:45:49,750
can you hear me we can

2577
01:45:49,760 --> 01:45:51,920
oh mr reeve deputy reid

2578
01:45:51,920 --> 01:45:56,149
members of council

2579
01:45:56,159 --> 01:45:58,880
it's really uh really a pleasure to

2580
01:45:58,880 --> 01:46:00,400
address you again

2581
01:46:00,400 --> 01:46:02,800
now uh what i understand is that there's

2582
01:46:02,800 --> 01:46:05,600
been a lot of representation from

2583
01:46:05,600 --> 01:46:08,000
people in the area

2584
01:46:08,000 --> 01:46:10,560
and i haven't been able to speak to

2585
01:46:10,560 --> 01:46:12,560
anyone in the area who

2586
01:46:12,560 --> 01:46:15,920
really supports this this development

2587
01:46:15,920 --> 01:46:18,320
there are a lot of concerns

2588
01:46:18,320 --> 01:46:20,800
and as everybody stated

2589
01:46:20,800 --> 01:46:22,800
earlier the concerns

2590
01:46:22,800 --> 01:46:25,679
are about the quality of life in bath

2591
01:46:25,679 --> 01:46:26,960
the uh

2592
01:46:26,960 --> 01:46:29,760
the idea that it's a historical place

2593
01:46:29,760 --> 01:46:31,760
and that it's a smaller place with a lot

2594
01:46:31,760 --> 01:46:34,950
of uh memories

2595
01:46:34,960 --> 01:46:37,360
we're we're concerned about the density

2596
01:46:37,360 --> 01:46:38,480
even though

2597
01:46:38,480 --> 01:46:39,679
on paper

2598
01:46:39,679 --> 01:46:41,679
according to regulations

2599
01:46:41,679 --> 01:46:43,840
it could be a classified as a lower

2600
01:46:43,840 --> 01:46:46,400
density uh kind of a

2601
01:46:46,400 --> 01:46:48,960
uh development but that's a number

2602
01:46:48,960 --> 01:46:51,040
that's a matter of numbers not a matter

2603
01:46:51,040 --> 01:46:53,440
of lifestyle

2604
01:46:53,440 --> 01:46:55,600
i the other thing is the the whole

2605
01:46:55,600 --> 01:46:58,639
traffic study i agree with the

2606
01:46:58,639 --> 01:47:00,639
concerns that the other people have

2607
01:47:00,639 --> 01:47:02,480
brought up as well

2608
01:47:02,480 --> 01:47:04,480
in terms of other development of path

2609
01:47:04,480 --> 01:47:06,480
that's that's affecting

2610
01:47:06,480 --> 01:47:09,440
main street anybody coming out of

2611
01:47:09,440 --> 01:47:11,840
uh loyalist estates

2612
01:47:11,840 --> 01:47:13,119
turns east

2613
01:47:13,119 --> 01:47:15,040
and that's across the lane of traffic

2614
01:47:15,040 --> 01:47:16,639
that's going to be

2615
01:47:16,639 --> 01:47:18,080
still just as

2616
01:47:18,080 --> 01:47:21,360
awkward and prolific as it is now so it

2617
01:47:21,360 --> 01:47:23,679
raises a a problem there

2618
01:47:23,679 --> 01:47:26,400
i've been to other cul-de-sacs uh in

2619
01:47:26,400 --> 01:47:27,760
bath

2620
01:47:27,760 --> 01:47:29,520
and in atmosphere

2621
01:47:29,520 --> 01:47:31,119
and they're

2622
01:47:31,119 --> 01:47:35,119
they're cul-de-sacs that have single

2623
01:47:35,119 --> 01:47:37,840
resident single family residence

2624
01:47:37,840 --> 01:47:40,719
they have double driveways and still a

2625
01:47:40,719 --> 01:47:42,719
problem with parking

2626
01:47:42,719 --> 01:47:43,679
um

2627
01:47:43,679 --> 01:47:45,520
in this case

2628
01:47:45,520 --> 01:47:47,520
what's proposed is

2629
01:47:47,520 --> 01:47:51,440
two cars one under garage and one

2630
01:47:51,440 --> 01:47:52,880
in the driveway

2631
01:47:52,880 --> 01:47:55,280
but with the frontages such as they are

2632
01:47:55,280 --> 01:47:56,400
so small

2633
01:47:56,400 --> 01:47:59,040
there isn't a lot of room to park in a

2634
01:47:59,040 --> 01:48:00,960
cul-de-sac like that

2635
01:48:00,960 --> 01:48:03,679
and i've seen in cul-de-sacs here

2636
01:48:03,679 --> 01:48:05,679
that people park right in the middle

2637
01:48:05,679 --> 01:48:08,080
when they have company

2638
01:48:08,080 --> 01:48:10,239
the kind of development that's being

2639
01:48:10,239 --> 01:48:12,159
proposed here

2640
01:48:12,159 --> 01:48:14,000
was

2641
01:48:14,000 --> 01:48:16,320
idealized by the developer as something

2642
01:48:16,320 --> 01:48:18,480
for seniors i don't think that's

2643
01:48:18,480 --> 01:48:20,400
necessarily going to be the case i think

2644
01:48:20,400 --> 01:48:22,960
the market if those houses are

2645
01:48:22,960 --> 01:48:25,440
affordable we'll see young families with

2646
01:48:25,440 --> 01:48:26,480
children

2647
01:48:26,480 --> 01:48:29,280
and that cul-de-sac is going to turn

2648
01:48:29,280 --> 01:48:30,840
into a

2649
01:48:30,840 --> 01:48:33,119
playground the cul-de-sac the way it

2650
01:48:33,119 --> 01:48:36,480
looks on the land on the uh dimensions

2651
01:48:36,480 --> 01:48:38,880
opens up onto uh

2652
01:48:38,880 --> 01:48:41,119
the bath road main street

2653
01:48:41,119 --> 01:48:43,119
and there's no sidewalk leading to the

2654
01:48:43,119 --> 01:48:44,480
to the main street

2655
01:48:44,480 --> 01:48:46,239
that means that anybody coming out of

2656
01:48:46,239 --> 01:48:49,040
there including smaller people

2657
01:48:49,040 --> 01:48:51,840
uh just walk along the road

2658
01:48:51,840 --> 01:48:54,000
uh onto the bathroom sidewalks that's

2659
01:48:54,000 --> 01:48:55,840
that should be addressed

2660
01:48:55,840 --> 01:48:57,360
um

2661
01:48:57,360 --> 01:48:58,800
there

2662
01:48:58,800 --> 01:49:02,320
the number of other uh

2663
01:49:02,320 --> 01:49:04,639
uh concerns that that i've heard

2664
01:49:04,639 --> 01:49:07,440
are uh similar as well

2665
01:49:07,440 --> 01:49:10,320
uh there's there's a question of parking

2666
01:49:10,320 --> 01:49:12,800
that's the parking on main street the

2667
01:49:12,800 --> 01:49:14,480
traffic on main street

2668
01:49:14,480 --> 01:49:17,360
i don't know what

2669
01:49:17,360 --> 01:49:19,920
the developers

2670
01:49:19,920 --> 01:49:22,790
traffic study

2671
01:49:22,800 --> 01:49:24,239
arrived at but

2672
01:49:24,239 --> 01:49:26,239
i think and i think everybody that i've

2673
01:49:26,239 --> 01:49:27,440
spoken to

2674
01:49:27,440 --> 01:49:29,280
naturally see that there's going to be

2675
01:49:29,280 --> 01:49:33,119
an impact on the traffic in the area

2676
01:49:33,119 --> 01:49:33,920
and

2677
01:49:33,920 --> 01:49:36,480
everybody that i've spoken to feels like

2678
01:49:36,480 --> 01:49:38,239
a citizen of bat

2679
01:49:38,239 --> 01:49:40,239
in the neighborhood that they live in

2680
01:49:40,239 --> 01:49:43,679
and have enjoyed so much

2681
01:49:43,679 --> 01:49:46,000
so uh just reflecting what people have

2682
01:49:46,000 --> 01:49:47,440
told me here

2683
01:49:47,440 --> 01:49:49,360
uh and i'm sure that uh

2684
01:49:49,360 --> 01:49:51,280
all these

2685
01:49:51,280 --> 01:49:54,320
concerns have been submitted in writing

2686
01:49:54,320 --> 01:49:57,920
and uh and tabled at the open house so

2687
01:49:57,920 --> 01:50:01,040
thank you very much for your support

2688
01:50:01,040 --> 01:50:02,400
not support

2689
01:50:02,400 --> 01:50:04,880
i thought i was canvassing again

2690
01:50:04,880 --> 01:50:07,360
uh thank you very much for hearing me

2691
01:50:07,360 --> 01:50:08,400
and

2692
01:50:08,400 --> 01:50:10,639
i appreciate this opportunity to address

2693
01:50:10,639 --> 01:50:15,990
council

2694
01:50:16,000 --> 01:50:18,719
thank you mr judaism okay

2695
01:50:18,719 --> 01:50:23,270
there's any other further comments

2696
01:50:23,280 --> 01:50:26,310
madam clerk

2697
01:50:26,320 --> 01:50:29,280
uh sorry we have uh two people who have

2698
01:50:29,280 --> 01:50:32,480
uh spoken before uh the cunningham and

2699
01:50:32,480 --> 01:50:34,639
catherine murphy or

2700
01:50:34,639 --> 01:50:36,480
whoever

2701
01:50:36,480 --> 01:50:39,199
murphy i appreciate the enthusiasm i

2702
01:50:39,199 --> 01:50:41,360
will allow miss murphy to come back in

2703
01:50:41,360 --> 01:50:43,119
but mr cunningham's already had a couple

2704
01:50:43,119 --> 01:50:45,119
opportunities i think i'll cut it off

2705
01:50:45,119 --> 01:50:47,679
there but please bring ms murphy back in

2706
01:50:47,679 --> 01:50:54,310
for a final comment

2707
01:50:54,320 --> 01:50:56,320
i'm hoping right now that you can hear

2708
01:50:56,320 --> 01:50:58,159
me we can hear you

2709
01:50:58,159 --> 01:51:00,639
good and it was not me speaking

2710
01:51:00,639 --> 01:51:01,599
before

2711
01:51:01,599 --> 01:51:02,960
no

2712
01:51:02,960 --> 01:51:07,149
um so i'm

2713
01:51:07,159 --> 01:51:10,159
a lot of uh concerns

2714
01:51:10,159 --> 01:51:15,840
um i read the 116 pages of

2715
01:51:15,840 --> 01:51:18,080
of comments uh right at the very

2716
01:51:18,080 --> 01:51:21,040
beginning it said something that may be

2717
01:51:21,040 --> 01:51:23,679
really simple but it said that we have

2718
01:51:23,679 --> 01:51:25,520
schools

2719
01:51:25,520 --> 01:51:28,960
plural and really we don't we have one

2720
01:51:28,960 --> 01:51:31,360
and so the buses for all the separate

2721
01:51:31,360 --> 01:51:34,480
school kids and all the high school kids

2722
01:51:34,480 --> 01:51:35,280
uh

2723
01:51:35,280 --> 01:51:38,000
would be leaving the village so that's

2724
01:51:38,000 --> 01:51:41,040
another concern about that area it's

2725
01:51:41,040 --> 01:51:43,760
very very congested

2726
01:51:43,760 --> 01:51:46,960
and you know i liked what i think was

2727
01:51:46,960 --> 01:51:50,000
mrs mcintosh and odessa was talking

2728
01:51:50,000 --> 01:51:51,199
about is

2729
01:51:51,199 --> 01:51:53,840
is you know we moved to an area

2730
01:51:53,840 --> 01:51:56,400
um so we can hear the birds well right

2731
01:51:56,400 --> 01:51:58,159
now we hear traffic

2732
01:51:58,159 --> 01:52:00,880
and i i really

2733
01:52:00,880 --> 01:52:03,440
think that we would be making a huge

2734
01:52:03,440 --> 01:52:05,520
mistake for the village bath for the

2735
01:52:05,520 --> 01:52:06,880
historic

2736
01:52:06,880 --> 01:52:09,199
uh village of bath and i was part of

2737
01:52:09,199 --> 01:52:11,119
lockhack so i'm

2738
01:52:11,119 --> 01:52:12,159
you know

2739
01:52:12,159 --> 01:52:15,599
quite passionate about that is um we're

2740
01:52:15,599 --> 01:52:17,760
making a very big mistake that we won't

2741
01:52:17,760 --> 01:52:22,070
be able to undo

2742
01:52:22,080 --> 01:52:24,159
and so all my further comments are

2743
01:52:24,159 --> 01:52:25,119
written

2744
01:52:25,119 --> 01:52:28,719
but i would also uh move that we

2745
01:52:28,719 --> 01:52:31,280
are able to write in email in like the

2746
01:52:31,280 --> 01:52:33,119
odesk people are

2747
01:52:33,119 --> 01:52:35,040
for those that haven't been able to make

2748
01:52:35,040 --> 01:52:36,960
contact

2749
01:52:36,960 --> 01:52:38,560
absolutely miss murphy we would

2750
01:52:38,560 --> 01:52:41,040
encourage everyone to communicate as

2751
01:52:41,040 --> 01:52:43,520
much as possible uh as quickly as

2752
01:52:43,520 --> 01:52:45,280
possible as well

2753
01:52:45,280 --> 01:52:46,800
by email

2754
01:52:46,800 --> 01:52:51,430
or obviously through this public forum

2755
01:52:51,440 --> 01:52:52,880
thanks

2756
01:52:52,880 --> 01:52:54,400
thank you

2757
01:52:54,400 --> 01:52:58,320
what is the time frame um for this stuff

2758
01:52:58,320 --> 01:53:01,440
and i will turn to the director or miss

2759
01:53:01,440 --> 01:53:02,560
furnace

2760
01:53:02,560 --> 01:53:13,990
for what's the time frame on comments

2761
01:53:14,000 --> 01:53:17,360
yes through you mr mayor um the i mean

2762
01:53:17,360 --> 01:53:19,199
the the the planning act timelines our

2763
01:53:19,199 --> 01:53:21,360
comments can be submitted right up until

2764
01:53:21,360 --> 01:53:23,440
council makes a decision and passes a

2765
01:53:23,440 --> 01:53:26,639
bylaw um however um

2766
01:53:26,639 --> 01:53:28,239
i would just um caution everybody that

2767
01:53:28,239 --> 01:53:30,000
staff are currently in the technical

2768
01:53:30,000 --> 01:53:32,880
review of the of these applications so

2769
01:53:32,880 --> 01:53:34,400
um we would really like to be able to

2770
01:53:34,400 --> 01:53:37,280
incorporate um any public feedback into

2771
01:53:37,280 --> 01:53:39,199
consideration in our technical comments

2772
01:53:39,199 --> 01:53:41,440
back to the applicant um which were

2773
01:53:41,440 --> 01:53:43,040
which we're aiming to send back within

2774
01:53:43,040 --> 01:53:44,239
the month so

2775
01:53:44,239 --> 01:53:45,199
um

2776
01:53:45,199 --> 01:53:47,679
the sooner we can get those to um

2777
01:53:47,679 --> 01:53:49,679
consider any additional comments um to

2778
01:53:49,679 --> 01:53:51,599
our comments that are being currently

2779
01:53:51,599 --> 01:53:53,840
drafted right now it would be um very

2780
01:53:53,840 --> 01:53:55,520
helpful

2781
01:53:55,520 --> 01:53:57,840
thank you and one one more comment is

2782
01:53:57,840 --> 01:54:00,000
that um i understand that you send out

2783
01:54:00,000 --> 01:54:01,280
notices

2784
01:54:01,280 --> 01:54:03,119
and i was included in that because i'm

2785
01:54:03,119 --> 01:54:04,639
part of a radius

2786
01:54:04,639 --> 01:54:07,679
but i think in the village of

2787
01:54:07,679 --> 01:54:09,599
the radius really needs to be a whole

2788
01:54:09,599 --> 01:54:11,040
lot huger

2789
01:54:11,040 --> 01:54:13,199
because it is a village about bath it's

2790
01:54:13,199 --> 01:54:16,239
the historic village about it's not just

2791
01:54:16,239 --> 01:54:19,599
x amount of meters from

2792
01:54:19,599 --> 01:54:22,560
where the old anchor was

2793
01:54:22,560 --> 01:54:24,800
so i really feel that we've left out a

2794
01:54:24,800 --> 01:54:26,400
whole lot of people that have a whole

2795
01:54:26,400 --> 01:54:28,159
lot of passion

2796
01:54:28,159 --> 01:54:31,119
about this village

2797
01:54:31,119 --> 01:54:36,950
thank you for your comments miss murphy

2798
01:54:36,960 --> 01:54:41,119
and i will come back

2799
01:54:41,119 --> 01:54:43,199
wait a moment

2800
01:54:43,199 --> 01:54:48,310
council do we have any comments

2801
01:54:48,320 --> 01:54:50,080
there mrs murphy is now muted so that

2802
01:54:50,080 --> 01:54:52,400
should work better okay

2803
01:54:52,400 --> 01:54:55,119
do we have any other comments

2804
01:54:55,119 --> 01:54:57,360
and i'll turn to the clerk one last time

2805
01:54:57,360 --> 01:55:00,800
is there anyone new wishing to speak

2806
01:55:00,800 --> 01:55:04,080
to this public meeting

2807
01:55:04,080 --> 01:55:09,109
uh not that i see your worship

2808
01:55:09,119 --> 01:55:11,199
but that then i will move forward we

2809
01:55:11,199 --> 01:55:13,040
have a recommendation before us that

2810
01:55:13,040 --> 01:55:15,840
we'll receive all of these comments and

2811
01:55:15,840 --> 01:55:18,000
that a recommendation be brought forward

2812
01:55:18,000 --> 01:55:20,000
to council once the comments from the

2813
01:55:20,000 --> 01:55:22,639
departments the agencies and the public

2814
01:55:22,639 --> 01:55:24,560
have been addressed

2815
01:55:24,560 --> 01:55:26,000
and there's a motion to their

2816
01:55:26,000 --> 01:55:27,840
recommendation to that effect i would

2817
01:55:27,840 --> 01:55:30,800
look to counsel for a motion

2818
01:55:30,800 --> 01:55:35,510
i'll go to councillor budaric

2819
01:55:35,520 --> 01:55:38,800
that's where booter excel moved

2820
01:55:38,800 --> 01:55:42,790
okay do i have a seconder

2821
01:55:42,800 --> 01:55:44,800
counselor garden thank you

2822
01:55:44,800 --> 01:55:49,589
any comments

2823
01:55:49,599 --> 01:55:51,760
seeing none i'll call the question

2824
01:55:51,760 --> 01:55:54,880
all those in favor please raise a hand

2825
01:55:54,880 --> 01:55:58,400
and he opposed motion is carried at this

2826
01:55:58,400 --> 01:55:59,760
time that brings us to the end of the

2827
01:55:59,760 --> 01:56:01,280
public meetings i would like to say

2828
01:56:01,280 --> 01:56:03,280
thank you to the audience members and

2829
01:56:03,280 --> 01:56:05,599
all of the speakers on on uh the various

2830
01:56:05,599 --> 01:56:08,320
type of the two topics uh i appreciate

2831
01:56:08,320 --> 01:56:10,400
your feedback they will be incorporated

2832
01:56:10,400 --> 01:56:12,480
into the reports and those will be

2833
01:56:12,480 --> 01:56:14,960
coming forward in a public manner before

2834
01:56:14,960 --> 01:56:17,440
council at some date in the future i'm

2835
01:56:17,440 --> 01:56:19,760
not sure exactly how long it will take

2836
01:56:19,760 --> 01:56:22,560
uh but to that end i do appreciate your

2837
01:56:22,560 --> 01:56:24,719
participation and fighting through the

2838
01:56:24,719 --> 01:56:26,639
technology that we're dealing with with

2839
01:56:26,639 --> 01:56:28,639
virtual meetings

2840
01:56:28,639 --> 01:56:30,320
so we come to the end of the public

2841
01:56:30,320 --> 01:56:33,440
meetings we move on to our agenda and

2842
01:56:33,440 --> 01:56:34,719
item 7

2843
01:56:34,719 --> 01:56:37,280
7.1 is the motion to adopt the agenda as

2844
01:56:37,280 --> 01:56:39,599
it's presented before us to the clerk is

2845
01:56:39,599 --> 01:56:41,040
there anything to add to the agenda at

2846
01:56:41,040 --> 01:56:42,880
this time

2847
01:56:42,880 --> 01:56:44,960
not that i'm aware of your worship thank

2848
01:56:44,960 --> 01:56:46,560
you council

2849
01:56:46,560 --> 01:56:48,560
are we happy with the agenda can we get

2850
01:56:48,560 --> 01:56:51,199
a motion to approve the agenda

2851
01:56:51,199 --> 01:56:53,040
counselor talented second by deputy

2852
01:56:53,040 --> 01:56:54,880
mayor

2853
01:56:54,880 --> 01:56:57,520
any comment all those in favor please

2854
01:56:57,520 --> 01:56:59,520
raise a hand

2855
01:56:59,520 --> 01:57:01,360
any opposed

2856
01:57:01,360 --> 01:57:03,520
motion is carried is there any

2857
01:57:03,520 --> 01:57:05,280
declaration of binary interest in the

2858
01:57:05,280 --> 01:57:08,870
general nature thereof

2859
01:57:08,880 --> 01:57:10,719
and seeing

2860
01:57:10,719 --> 01:57:12,560
none

2861
01:57:12,560 --> 01:57:14,480
okay we'll move forward

2862
01:57:14,480 --> 01:57:17,520
first up uh delegations we have uh miss

2863
01:57:17,520 --> 01:57:19,760
kimberly with regard to the odessa

2864
01:57:19,760 --> 01:57:22,000
fairgrounds do we have miss kimberly in

2865
01:57:22,000 --> 01:57:24,800
the audience

2866
01:57:24,800 --> 01:57:27,280
i see mr field he's also associated with

2867
01:57:27,280 --> 01:57:31,109
the odessa egg society

2868
01:57:31,119 --> 01:57:33,040
if miss kimberly's not here perhaps we

2869
01:57:33,040 --> 01:57:34,639
can bring in mr field

2870
01:57:34,639 --> 01:57:37,280
yeah i've switched over he should be

2871
01:57:37,280 --> 01:57:40,320
able to speak now mr field we can see

2872
01:57:40,320 --> 01:57:42,080
you but you're muted right now so we

2873
01:57:42,080 --> 01:57:44,080
can't hear you

2874
01:57:44,080 --> 01:57:46,159
bear can you hear us now we can hear you

2875
01:57:46,159 --> 01:57:47,679
now is that florence

2876
01:57:47,679 --> 01:57:49,280
it is

2877
01:57:49,280 --> 01:57:51,760
welcome miss kimberly thank you

2878
01:57:51,760 --> 01:57:53,760
so thank you for your time this is

2879
01:57:53,760 --> 01:57:56,639
regarding um a call that we got from

2880
01:57:56,639 --> 01:57:58,880
utilities about a huge water bill at the

2881
01:57:58,880 --> 01:58:00,320
fairgrounds

2882
01:58:00,320 --> 01:58:02,800
after the call we immediately checked to

2883
01:58:02,800 --> 01:58:05,760
find no leaks no water damage so the

2884
01:58:05,760 --> 01:58:08,960
consumption did not make sense to us

2885
01:58:08,960 --> 01:58:09,760
as

2886
01:58:09,760 --> 01:58:13,119
we'd been closed since march of 220.

2887
01:58:13,119 --> 01:58:14,639
we shut the water off and called our

2888
01:58:14,639 --> 01:58:16,719
plumber mike carey who verified there

2889
01:58:16,719 --> 01:58:19,599
was no leaks all outside tops and water

2890
01:58:19,599 --> 01:58:21,679
lines to exterior buildings

2891
01:58:21,679 --> 01:58:24,159
are controlled from inside and they were

2892
01:58:24,159 --> 01:58:26,800
had been blown out and all shut off

2893
01:58:26,800 --> 01:58:29,119
uh loyalist utilities came and did a

2894
01:58:29,119 --> 01:58:31,280
download of the information from our

2895
01:58:31,280 --> 01:58:34,159
meter and provided us with a graph of

2896
01:58:34,159 --> 01:58:36,639
our usage which showed that we used in

2897
01:58:36,639 --> 01:58:40,719
excess of 235 cubic meters in one day

2898
01:58:40,719 --> 01:58:42,800
this translates to about four

2899
01:58:42,800 --> 01:58:45,840
tractor-trailer loads of water

2900
01:58:45,840 --> 01:58:48,719
which when you do the math that volume

2901
01:58:48,719 --> 01:58:51,280
is not possible to go through the meter

2902
01:58:51,280 --> 01:58:54,239
and water lines that we have

2903
01:58:54,239 --> 01:58:56,960
we paid a portion of the bill which

2904
01:58:56,960 --> 01:58:59,040
we believe was in keeping with our usual

2905
01:58:59,040 --> 01:59:00,000
bill

2906
01:59:00,000 --> 01:59:02,480
so we're asking council to forgive the

2907
01:59:02,480 --> 01:59:04,639
remaining portion of the bill not

2908
01:59:04,639 --> 01:59:07,760
because the oas cannot pay it but

2909
01:59:07,760 --> 01:59:10,880
because we feel there was a problem and

2910
01:59:10,880 --> 01:59:13,920
no one has been able to explain and we

2911
01:59:13,920 --> 01:59:16,639
want to have suggestions on moving

2912
01:59:16,639 --> 01:59:19,440
forward so it doesn't happen again

2913
01:59:19,440 --> 01:59:24,870
and we sent a letter to the utilities

2914
01:59:24,880 --> 01:59:26,320
saying that oh

2915
01:59:26,320 --> 01:59:29,199
the odessa agriculture society received

2916
01:59:29,199 --> 01:59:33,440
a bill of 2500 and 1845

2917
01:59:33,440 --> 01:59:36,560
and from loyalist township examination

2918
01:59:36,560 --> 01:59:38,880
of the fairgrounds water sewer system by

2919
01:59:38,880 --> 01:59:41,360
both oas maintenance people licensed

2920
01:59:41,360 --> 01:59:43,520
plumber and township workers

2921
01:59:43,520 --> 01:59:46,480
has not rece revealed any reason for the

2922
01:59:46,480 --> 01:59:49,760
puzzling huge increase in usage

2923
01:59:49,760 --> 01:59:52,239
the puzzling is the operative word

2924
01:59:52,239 --> 01:59:55,910
because due to cobid

2925
01:59:55,920 --> 01:59:58,639
it has resulted in cancellation of all

2926
01:59:58,639 --> 02:00:00,960
our scheduled events and activities at

2927
02:00:00,960 --> 02:00:03,360
the fairgrounds including the fair

2928
02:00:03,360 --> 02:00:05,920
since march of 220. even regular

2929
02:00:05,920 --> 02:00:09,440
cleaning of the buildings was suspended

2930
02:00:09,440 --> 02:00:12,719
the oas is managed by volunteers and are

2931
02:00:12,719 --> 02:00:14,880
striving to preserve the fairgrounds

2932
02:00:14,880 --> 02:00:16,560
into the future for the benefit of the

2933
02:00:16,560 --> 02:00:17,760
community

2934
02:00:17,760 --> 02:00:20,000
despite the lack of revenue from rentals

2935
02:00:20,000 --> 02:00:22,719
in the fair the oas is still responsible

2936
02:00:22,719 --> 02:00:25,440
for insurance maintenance and utility

2937
02:00:25,440 --> 02:00:26,639
expenses

2938
02:00:26,639 --> 02:00:28,400
based on the amount of our previous

2939
02:00:28,400 --> 02:00:33,189
bills we send a check for 515.54

2940
02:00:33,199 --> 02:00:34,560
to cover the

2941
02:00:34,560 --> 02:00:37,119
march 16th to may 15th billing

2942
02:00:37,119 --> 02:00:39,599
the oas respectfully asks that the

2943
02:00:39,599 --> 02:00:41,520
loyalist township forgive

2944
02:00:41,520 --> 02:00:43,560
the remainder of the

2945
02:00:43,560 --> 02:00:46,800
25-18-45 bill and worked with the oas to

2946
02:00:46,800 --> 02:00:49,440
determine the cause of the improbable

2947
02:00:49,440 --> 02:00:50,880
meter reading

2948
02:00:50,880 --> 02:00:53,360
so we want to thank you for considering

2949
02:00:53,360 --> 02:00:55,440
our request

2950
02:00:55,440 --> 02:00:58,000
okay thank you very much ms kimberly

2951
02:00:58,000 --> 02:01:00,400
and for the presentation i will turn to

2952
02:01:00,400 --> 02:01:04,550
council for questions

2953
02:01:04,560 --> 02:01:06,639
anyone on council wish to have

2954
02:01:06,639 --> 02:01:10,390
any further information

2955
02:01:10,400 --> 02:01:14,080
and i'm seeing none okay

2956
02:01:14,080 --> 02:01:15,440
and i will say miss kimberly i

2957
02:01:15,440 --> 02:01:17,199
appreciate that you have worked with our

2958
02:01:17,199 --> 02:01:19,199
utilities uh staff

2959
02:01:19,199 --> 02:01:22,639
to to attempt to resolve this puzzling

2960
02:01:22,639 --> 02:01:26,560
situation and uh i can't

2961
02:01:26,560 --> 02:01:27,920
agree that the

2962
02:01:27,920 --> 02:01:29,119
the uh

2963
02:01:29,119 --> 02:01:31,760
the ag society has been uh very

2964
02:01:31,760 --> 02:01:34,840
beneficial to the township over the

2965
02:01:34,840 --> 02:01:37,199
years council

2966
02:01:37,199 --> 02:01:39,199
we have a presentation

2967
02:01:39,199 --> 02:01:42,239
and what would you like to do with it

2968
02:01:42,239 --> 02:01:45,750
i'll go to the deputy

2969
02:01:45,760 --> 02:01:46,719
thank you

2970
02:01:46,719 --> 02:01:49,360
um i'd like to make a motion

2971
02:01:49,360 --> 02:01:52,480
to receive the delegation with thanks

2972
02:01:52,480 --> 02:01:55,360
and request staff to determine the

2973
02:01:55,360 --> 02:01:58,400
one-time unusual amount

2974
02:01:58,400 --> 02:02:00,080
of this invoice

2975
02:02:00,080 --> 02:02:02,719
and that the township provide relief of

2976
02:02:02,719 --> 02:02:06,239
that amount and that staff continue to

2977
02:02:06,239 --> 02:02:08,239
work with the agricultural society to

2978
02:02:08,239 --> 02:02:09,360
determine

2979
02:02:09,360 --> 02:02:11,760
the cause of

2980
02:02:11,760 --> 02:02:14,080
this anomaly if if

2981
02:02:14,080 --> 02:02:17,199
if it can be determined

2982
02:02:17,199 --> 02:02:20,719
even up to um checking the water meter

2983
02:02:20,719 --> 02:02:22,320
and replacing if

2984
02:02:22,320 --> 02:02:24,790
needed

2985
02:02:24,800 --> 02:02:26,239
does the clerk have clarity on that

2986
02:02:26,239 --> 02:02:29,030
motion

2987
02:02:29,040 --> 02:02:31,119
yes we can yes we will

2988
02:02:31,119 --> 02:02:33,920
thank you and thank you deputy do i have

2989
02:02:33,920 --> 02:02:36,239
a seconder

2990
02:02:36,239 --> 02:02:39,040
i'll go to councillor budaric thank you

2991
02:02:39,040 --> 02:02:42,709
deputy would you like to make comment

2992
02:02:42,719 --> 02:02:45,760
yes um thank you um

2993
02:02:45,760 --> 02:02:48,320
i just uh first off

2994
02:02:48,320 --> 02:02:50,080
i appreciate the fact that the township

2995
02:02:50,080 --> 02:02:52,320
staff and the agriculture society have

2996
02:02:52,320 --> 02:02:54,000
worked together so well trying to

2997
02:02:54,000 --> 02:02:57,360
determine what uh what did happen um

2998
02:02:57,360 --> 02:02:58,719
with nothing

2999
02:02:58,719 --> 02:02:59,650
solid

3000
02:02:59,650 --> 02:03:01,040
[Music]

3001
02:03:01,040 --> 02:03:02,480
i believe that this

3002
02:03:02,480 --> 02:03:04,400
with the agricult cultural society as

3003
02:03:04,400 --> 02:03:05,360
you say

3004
02:03:05,360 --> 02:03:06,320
um

3005
02:03:06,320 --> 02:03:08,080
they've been a great partner for the

3006
02:03:08,080 --> 02:03:12,070
community and for the township

3007
02:03:12,080 --> 02:03:14,719
they're open to all community events and

3008
02:03:14,719 --> 02:03:17,280
they're very

3009
02:03:17,280 --> 02:03:19,040
open to

3010
02:03:19,040 --> 02:03:21,440
um if there's a community event or or

3011
02:03:21,440 --> 02:03:22,639
something is needed that's going to

3012
02:03:22,639 --> 02:03:24,239
benefit the community

3013
02:03:24,239 --> 02:03:26,239
um in the past they've even relaxed

3014
02:03:26,239 --> 02:03:28,639
their fee schedule

3015
02:03:28,639 --> 02:03:31,599
to make sure that it is taken care of

3016
02:03:31,599 --> 02:03:33,679
so

3017
02:03:33,679 --> 02:03:35,760
i'd like to see it continue

3018
02:03:35,760 --> 02:03:37,280
they've also as was mentioned they're

3019
02:03:37,280 --> 02:03:39,520
going on two years with no income even

3020
02:03:39,520 --> 02:03:42,480
though they may not be out of money i i

3021
02:03:42,480 --> 02:03:46,550
think that this is uh

3022
02:03:46,560 --> 02:03:48,719
a great way that we can assist them to

3023
02:03:48,719 --> 02:03:50,159
make sure that they

3024
02:03:50,159 --> 02:03:52,400
do are able to weather the rest of this

3025
02:03:52,400 --> 02:03:54,239
closure and

3026
02:03:54,239 --> 02:03:56,480
be able to be here when we need them and

3027
02:03:56,480 --> 02:03:58,239
again i just thank i thank staff for

3028
02:03:58,239 --> 02:04:00,000
working with them as well to make sure

3029
02:04:00,000 --> 02:04:00,880
that

3030
02:04:00,880 --> 02:04:03,199
um it got to this point to be able to be

3031
02:04:03,199 --> 02:04:05,119
a delegation

3032
02:04:05,119 --> 02:04:07,840
thank you secondary did you have comment

3033
02:04:07,840 --> 02:04:10,639
uh just quickly i just uh would love the

3034
02:04:10,639 --> 02:04:12,719
staff report uh as requested by the

3035
02:04:12,719 --> 02:04:14,480
deputy just to

3036
02:04:14,480 --> 02:04:15,520
see what

3037
02:04:15,520 --> 02:04:17,840
might have triggered a one-time issue

3038
02:04:17,840 --> 02:04:19,280
because this may come up elsewhere in

3039
02:04:19,280 --> 02:04:21,040
the municipality if we can get ahead of

3040
02:04:21,040 --> 02:04:23,520
it that would be a great thing

3041
02:04:23,520 --> 02:04:24,800
thank you

3042
02:04:24,800 --> 02:04:30,550
any and anyone else wish to comment

3043
02:04:30,560 --> 02:04:32,000
anyone

3044
02:04:32,000 --> 02:04:34,159
i'm seeing no further comment

3045
02:04:34,159 --> 02:04:38,390
deputy do you want final

3046
02:04:38,400 --> 02:04:40,079
i think i was long-winded and no thank

3047
02:04:40,079 --> 02:04:40,960
you

3048
02:04:40,960 --> 02:04:42,960
thank you and then i'll call the

3049
02:04:42,960 --> 02:04:45,280
question all those in favor please raise

3050
02:04:45,280 --> 02:04:47,679
a hand

3051
02:04:47,679 --> 02:04:49,440
any opposed

3052
02:04:49,440 --> 02:04:51,119
motion is carried

3053
02:04:51,119 --> 02:04:53,040
thank you very much miss kimberly and mr

3054
02:04:53,040 --> 02:04:55,199
field for facilitating the uh the

3055
02:04:55,199 --> 02:04:56,960
technology

3056
02:04:56,960 --> 02:04:58,400
thank you very much for your help with

3057
02:04:58,400 --> 02:04:59,360
this

3058
02:04:59,360 --> 02:05:00,960
and thank you

3059
02:05:00,960 --> 02:05:03,840
and uh you have a good evening

3060
02:05:03,840 --> 02:05:07,040
moving forward to item 9.2

3061
02:05:07,040 --> 02:05:09,119
we have a presentation from

3062
02:05:09,119 --> 02:05:11,760
i believe it's amy gagne from food cycle

3063
02:05:11,760 --> 02:05:14,560
science to the clerk do we have ms gagne

3064
02:05:14,560 --> 02:05:16,480
uh it will be alex heyman i believe

3065
02:05:16,480 --> 02:05:19,040
that's doing the delegation

3066
02:05:19,040 --> 02:05:21,440
okay

3067
02:05:21,440 --> 02:05:22,880
mr hammond

3068
02:05:22,880 --> 02:05:25,360
welcome sir

3069
02:05:25,360 --> 02:05:27,990
hello

3070
02:05:28,000 --> 02:05:31,760
i do have a presentation are you able to

3071
02:05:31,760 --> 02:05:32,880
see it

3072
02:05:32,880 --> 02:05:36,400
council can receive that presentation

3073
02:05:36,400 --> 02:05:39,280
i'm seeing nods go ahead sir

3074
02:05:39,280 --> 02:05:42,239
okay so hello my name is uh alex heyman

3075
02:05:42,239 --> 02:05:45,440
i'm dialing in today from ottawa i'm

3076
02:05:45,440 --> 02:05:49,199
here today to talk about food waste and

3077
02:05:49,199 --> 02:05:51,360
how our company is piloting new

3078
02:05:51,360 --> 02:05:55,280
technology with 19 municipalities around

3079
02:05:55,280 --> 02:05:59,360
canada mostly in ontario and how we'd be

3080
02:05:59,360 --> 02:06:01,679
interested in exploring a potential

3081
02:06:01,679 --> 02:06:03,440
partnership with

3082
02:06:03,440 --> 02:06:05,440
loyalist township

3083
02:06:05,440 --> 02:06:08,320
uh we have connected with mayor bressi

3084
02:06:08,320 --> 02:06:10,960
in the past at an fcm event and have

3085
02:06:10,960 --> 02:06:12,960
been in contact with

3086
02:06:12,960 --> 02:06:14,159
staff

3087
02:06:14,159 --> 02:06:17,040
over the past year uh regarding several

3088
02:06:17,040 --> 02:06:20,320
informal uh discussions of a pilot

3089
02:06:20,320 --> 02:06:22,159
program and so we'd like to share more

3090
02:06:22,159 --> 02:06:25,040
information with council tonight and our

3091
02:06:25,040 --> 02:06:27,840
request at the end of this presentation

3092
02:06:27,840 --> 02:06:29,920
will be that

3093
02:06:29,920 --> 02:06:32,639
council asks staff to explore this

3094
02:06:32,639 --> 02:06:35,109
further

3095
02:06:35,119 --> 02:06:36,880
so food cycle science as i mentioned

3096
02:06:36,880 --> 02:06:39,440
we're based out of ottawa and our

3097
02:06:39,440 --> 02:06:42,639
company is focused on music technology

3098
02:06:42,639 --> 02:06:46,000
to solve the problem of food waste

3099
02:06:46,000 --> 02:06:48,400
recently we've started partnering with

3100
02:06:48,400 --> 02:06:51,760
many municipalities in canada to offer a

3101
02:06:51,760 --> 02:06:55,040
solution for food waste diversion

3102
02:06:55,040 --> 02:06:57,360
in the storm on dundas and glengarry

3103
02:06:57,360 --> 02:06:59,320
area you're now working with three

3104
02:06:59,320 --> 02:07:01,520
municipalities there which are south

3105
02:07:01,520 --> 02:07:03,679
stormont south dundas and south

3106
02:07:03,679 --> 02:07:06,400
glengarry and those will be interesting

3107
02:07:06,400 --> 02:07:09,199
references because they're fairly close

3108
02:07:09,199 --> 02:07:11,599
to loyalists

3109
02:07:11,599 --> 02:07:13,440
in the direct to consumer space we work

3110
02:07:13,440 --> 02:07:15,840
with brands including vitamix breville

3111
02:07:15,840 --> 02:07:18,639
and sage and we also have a line of

3112
02:07:18,639 --> 02:07:23,030
commercial food cycler machines

3113
02:07:23,040 --> 02:07:25,760
as you know food waste is a big problem

3114
02:07:25,760 --> 02:07:29,199
today and anywhere from 25 to 50 percent

3115
02:07:29,199 --> 02:07:31,679
of the waste our houses produce is

3116
02:07:31,679 --> 02:07:35,280
organic waste food waste is very heavy

3117
02:07:35,280 --> 02:07:37,199
and we spend a lot of money on food that

3118
02:07:37,199 --> 02:07:39,520
is ultimately wasted

3119
02:07:39,520 --> 02:07:41,679
it's a significant problem for

3120
02:07:41,679 --> 02:07:43,920
greenhouse gas emissions because once

3121
02:07:43,920 --> 02:07:46,159
food waste reaches the landfill it

3122
02:07:46,159 --> 02:07:49,119
decomposes anaerobically and releases

3123
02:07:49,119 --> 02:07:52,239
harmful methane gases methane was a big

3124
02:07:52,239 --> 02:07:54,400
discussion at the recent cop26

3125
02:07:54,400 --> 02:07:56,719
conference and so it's a very uh

3126
02:07:56,719 --> 02:07:59,520
interesting topic right now

3127
02:07:59,520 --> 02:08:02,079
municipalities spend a lot of money on

3128
02:08:02,079 --> 02:08:04,400
landfills and waste management and as

3129
02:08:04,400 --> 02:08:07,119
our landfills continue to fill up those

3130
02:08:07,119 --> 02:08:09,760
costs will only continue to rise and

3131
02:08:09,760 --> 02:08:10,800
thus

3132
02:08:10,800 --> 02:08:13,280
it'd be good idea to investigate

3133
02:08:13,280 --> 02:08:16,639
all methods available for diversion

3134
02:08:16,639 --> 02:08:19,119
there's the environmental side

3135
02:08:19,119 --> 02:08:21,920
again the methane gas being produced and

3136
02:08:21,920 --> 02:08:24,000
finally there's the community aspect

3137
02:08:24,000 --> 02:08:26,480
that having food waste in the garbage

3138
02:08:26,480 --> 02:08:29,440
attracts animals creates odors and if we

3139
02:08:29,440 --> 02:08:31,440
can get that out of the garbage and

3140
02:08:31,440 --> 02:08:32,719
diverted

3141
02:08:32,719 --> 02:08:35,040
you got less animals you have less waste

3142
02:08:35,040 --> 02:08:36,960
you may even not have to collect the

3143
02:08:36,960 --> 02:08:40,400
garbage as often

3144
02:08:40,400 --> 02:08:42,000
a lot of people say to us haven't we

3145
02:08:42,000 --> 02:08:44,239
solved this already can't we just get

3146
02:08:44,239 --> 02:08:47,119
green bins like a city like kingston has

3147
02:08:47,119 --> 02:08:49,679
well yes in a lot of communities are

3148
02:08:49,679 --> 02:08:52,800
considering solutions such as green bins

3149
02:08:52,800 --> 02:08:54,960
however they tend to work best in large

3150
02:08:54,960 --> 02:08:57,599
cities with economies of scale and

3151
02:08:57,599 --> 02:08:59,679
residents don't always like them for

3152
02:08:59,679 --> 02:09:01,920
example sudbury recently implemented a

3153
02:09:01,920 --> 02:09:03,840
green bin program in the participation

3154
02:09:03,840 --> 02:09:06,079
rate was very very low

3155
02:09:06,079 --> 02:09:08,400
contamination is an issue there's more

3156
02:09:08,400 --> 02:09:10,800
trucks on the road for doing collection

3157
02:09:10,800 --> 02:09:13,040
which leads to safety concerns and

3158
02:09:13,040 --> 02:09:14,719
ultimately it's not something that

3159
02:09:14,719 --> 02:09:16,719
everybody buys into

3160
02:09:16,719 --> 02:09:19,119
it can work but it's expensive and not

3161
02:09:19,119 --> 02:09:21,199
everybody likes it

3162
02:09:21,199 --> 02:09:22,960
there's backyard composting which is

3163
02:09:22,960 --> 02:09:25,280
great and i like to thank everybody who

3164
02:09:25,280 --> 02:09:27,920
is backyard composting please continue

3165
02:09:27,920 --> 02:09:29,040
to do so

3166
02:09:29,040 --> 02:09:31,040
um it's a great option but again it's

3167
02:09:31,040 --> 02:09:33,360
not for everybody and many of those at

3168
02:09:33,360 --> 02:09:36,000
backyard compost aren't doing it during

3169
02:09:36,000 --> 02:09:37,679
the winter

3170
02:09:37,679 --> 02:09:39,760
and lastly there's a landfill that's not

3171
02:09:39,760 --> 02:09:43,360
a great solution for a number of reasons

3172
02:09:43,360 --> 02:09:45,679
so we've done at foodcycler is we've

3173
02:09:45,679 --> 02:09:48,320
created a countertop appliance about the

3174
02:09:48,320 --> 02:09:50,719
size of a bread machine

3175
02:09:50,719 --> 02:09:52,320
and the way it works is you put your

3176
02:09:52,320 --> 02:09:54,560
food waste into the bucket you put the

3177
02:09:54,560 --> 02:09:57,119
bucket into the machine and a few hours

3178
02:09:57,119 --> 02:09:58,239
later

3179
02:09:58,239 --> 02:10:00,000
your food waste has been reduced in

3180
02:10:00,000 --> 02:10:02,400
weight and volume by 90

3181
02:10:02,400 --> 02:10:04,880
leaving you with a dry sterile and

3182
02:10:04,880 --> 02:10:07,679
odorless soil amendment that many folks

3183
02:10:07,679 --> 02:10:09,760
use for gardening

3184
02:10:09,760 --> 02:10:12,560
landscaping can be composted or

3185
02:10:12,560 --> 02:10:14,800
exploring pelletizing it into home

3186
02:10:14,800 --> 02:10:17,119
heating fuel there's a lot of

3187
02:10:17,119 --> 02:10:20,239
applications for this material but

3188
02:10:20,239 --> 02:10:21,440
overall

3189
02:10:21,440 --> 02:10:24,159
it's a very simple clean and easy

3190
02:10:24,159 --> 02:10:26,400
process and we're learning in all our

3191
02:10:26,400 --> 02:10:28,880
pilot programs with municipalities in

3192
02:10:28,880 --> 02:10:31,520
canada that residents like it because

3193
02:10:31,520 --> 02:10:34,950
it's super easy

3194
02:10:34,960 --> 02:10:37,119
in terms of the environmental impact

3195
02:10:37,119 --> 02:10:39,679
we're able to reduce our greenhouse gas

3196
02:10:39,679 --> 02:10:41,840
emissions from food waste by upwards of

3197
02:10:41,840 --> 02:10:43,199
95

3198
02:10:43,199 --> 02:10:45,520
versus sending it to landfill which is

3199
02:10:45,520 --> 02:10:47,440
quite significant

3200
02:10:47,440 --> 02:10:50,000
we're able to offer considerable cost

3201
02:10:50,000 --> 02:10:52,480
savings versus sending

3202
02:10:52,480 --> 02:10:55,360
our food waste to a municipal landfill

3203
02:10:55,360 --> 02:10:58,560
or to private sector disposal

3204
02:10:58,560 --> 02:11:00,719
and lastly we're helping municipalities

3205
02:11:00,719 --> 02:11:03,119
comply with environmental regulations

3206
02:11:03,119 --> 02:11:04,159
that

3207
02:11:04,159 --> 02:11:07,280
are coming in the next few years

3208
02:11:07,280 --> 02:11:09,920
the mystery of environment conservation

3209
02:11:09,920 --> 02:11:13,679
and parks has listed a food waste policy

3210
02:11:13,679 --> 02:11:15,599
statement that is

3211
02:11:15,599 --> 02:11:17,599
asking more municipalities to have

3212
02:11:17,599 --> 02:11:20,239
diversion systems for food waste in

3213
02:11:20,239 --> 02:11:23,679
place over the next few years

3214
02:11:23,679 --> 02:11:25,440
and we hear from residents that they're

3215
02:11:25,440 --> 02:11:28,719
interested in being part of the solution

3216
02:11:28,719 --> 02:11:30,480
they want their local government to come

3217
02:11:30,480 --> 02:11:33,199
to them with solutions to help address

3218
02:11:33,199 --> 02:11:36,000
this challenge

3219
02:11:36,000 --> 02:11:38,480
a quick touch on a pilot project this is

3220
02:11:38,480 --> 02:11:40,400
one of our older ones in the city of

3221
02:11:40,400 --> 02:11:42,320
nelson in bc

3222
02:11:42,320 --> 02:11:45,840
with 250 households we're able to divert

3223
02:11:45,840 --> 02:11:48,719
25 tons of food waste over a three-month

3224
02:11:48,719 --> 02:11:49,679
period

3225
02:11:49,679 --> 02:11:53,040
diversion continues to this day

3226
02:11:53,040 --> 02:11:55,199
residents really liked it

3227
02:11:55,199 --> 02:11:59,040
4.5 at a 5-star rating with less than 1

3228
02:11:59,040 --> 02:12:00,960
saying they would not recommend it to

3229
02:12:00,960 --> 02:12:01,840
others

3230
02:12:01,840 --> 02:12:03,280
lots of learnings from this pilot

3231
02:12:03,280 --> 02:12:05,199
program as well that we've taken and

3232
02:12:05,199 --> 02:12:07,679
adopted into our programs and i think

3233
02:12:07,679 --> 02:12:10,239
the number of municipalities buying into

3234
02:12:10,239 --> 02:12:14,719
this is evidence of that success

3235
02:12:14,719 --> 02:12:16,880
recently from the federal government we

3236
02:12:16,880 --> 02:12:19,119
were awarded a grant through the impact

3237
02:12:19,119 --> 02:12:21,679
canada food waste reduction challenge

3238
02:12:21,679 --> 02:12:24,000
it's a multi-stage project with these

3239
02:12:24,000 --> 02:12:26,560
grants we're able to help offset the

3240
02:12:26,560 --> 02:12:29,360
cost of pilot programs to municipalities

3241
02:12:29,360 --> 02:12:32,000
that want to try out this technology

3242
02:12:32,000 --> 02:12:34,639
and if we're successful in future stages

3243
02:12:34,639 --> 02:12:36,560
of the challenge there will be funding

3244
02:12:36,560 --> 02:12:39,440
to help scale up these projects so

3245
02:12:39,440 --> 02:12:41,280
currently we're in stage one and there's

3246
02:12:41,280 --> 02:12:45,119
two more stages to this program

3247
02:12:45,119 --> 02:12:47,280
within our pilot program we have a

3248
02:12:47,280 --> 02:12:50,239
12-week program where residents purchase

3249
02:12:50,239 --> 02:12:52,480
a food cycler from the municipality at a

3250
02:12:52,480 --> 02:12:55,280
subsidized rate use the food cycler for

3251
02:12:55,280 --> 02:12:57,840
12 weeks and then report their usage and

3252
02:12:57,840 --> 02:13:00,800
fill out a survey at the end it's a very

3253
02:13:00,800 --> 02:13:01,760
quick

3254
02:13:01,760 --> 02:13:04,639
process that allows the municipality to

3255
02:13:04,639 --> 02:13:05,920
get data

3256
02:13:05,920 --> 02:13:08,719
very quickly and with minimal staff time

3257
02:13:08,719 --> 02:13:09,840
required

3258
02:13:09,840 --> 02:13:12,000
for municipalities that started the

3259
02:13:12,000 --> 02:13:14,800
program in august we're now reporting

3260
02:13:14,800 --> 02:13:16,719
final data back to them and doing the

3261
02:13:16,719 --> 02:13:18,880
final reports so it's a very

3262
02:13:18,880 --> 02:13:21,040
quick process to get some good data

3263
02:13:21,040 --> 02:13:23,119
about food waste generation in the

3264
02:13:23,119 --> 02:13:25,280
community

3265
02:13:25,280 --> 02:13:28,000
in terms of pilot size typically we

3266
02:13:28,000 --> 02:13:31,280
recommend starting about 100 households

3267
02:13:31,280 --> 02:13:33,760
and that comes with a cost municipality

3268
02:13:33,760 --> 02:13:36,079
of about 10 thousand dollars

3269
02:13:36,079 --> 02:13:38,239
and the way the pricing breaks down is

3270
02:13:38,239 --> 02:13:40,800
in the chart on the right so the device

3271
02:13:40,800 --> 02:13:42,400
has a 500

3272
02:13:42,400 --> 02:13:45,119
retail price our company plus the

3273
02:13:45,119 --> 02:13:47,599
federal grant cuts that in half

3274
02:13:47,599 --> 02:13:49,280
we then look for the municipality to

3275
02:13:49,280 --> 02:13:51,760
subsidize a hundred dollars which leaves

3276
02:13:51,760 --> 02:13:54,560
the resident to cover 150 dollars to

3277
02:13:54,560 --> 02:13:57,360
participate in the pilot program

3278
02:13:57,360 --> 02:13:59,440
that seems to be the sweet spot between

3279
02:13:59,440 --> 02:14:01,520
keeping it accessible to as many people

3280
02:14:01,520 --> 02:14:03,920
as possible but not placing an undue

3281
02:14:03,920 --> 02:14:07,119
burden on taxpayers to subsidize this

3282
02:14:07,119 --> 02:14:09,360
we found it's worked very well with all

3283
02:14:09,360 --> 02:14:12,239
of the other municipalities we work with

3284
02:14:12,239 --> 02:14:13,760
now

3285
02:14:13,760 --> 02:14:15,840
so thank you very much for your time and

3286
02:14:15,840 --> 02:14:18,480
considering this idea our request would

3287
02:14:18,480 --> 02:14:20,800
be that council refer this to staff for

3288
02:14:20,800 --> 02:14:23,520
further consideration and i welcome any

3289
02:14:23,520 --> 02:14:27,119
questions from you thank you

3290
02:14:27,119 --> 02:14:29,119
thank you very much alex

3291
02:14:29,119 --> 02:14:30,800
council do we have questions with regard

3292
02:14:30,800 --> 02:14:35,589
to the presentation

3293
02:14:35,599 --> 02:14:37,760
i'll go to the deputy

3294
02:14:37,760 --> 02:14:41,360
thank you through you um

3295
02:14:41,360 --> 02:14:44,000
you i know you presented it tonight as a

3296
02:14:44,000 --> 02:14:47,119
municipal incentive um are these uh

3297
02:14:47,119 --> 02:14:49,760
available to anyone if they wanted one

3298
02:14:49,760 --> 02:14:51,840
outside of this program if just a

3299
02:14:51,840 --> 02:14:55,040
resident wanted to buy one at full price

3300
02:14:55,040 --> 02:14:57,119
they are they can be purchased through

3301
02:14:57,119 --> 02:14:58,719
our partner in the direct-to-consumer

3302
02:14:58,719 --> 02:15:01,320
market which is vitamix just through

3303
02:15:01,320 --> 02:15:04,079
vitamix.com however by working with

3304
02:15:04,079 --> 02:15:06,480
municipalities we're able to achieve

3305
02:15:06,480 --> 02:15:08,960
significant economies of scale and bring

3306
02:15:08,960 --> 02:15:11,520
the costs down to residents

3307
02:15:11,520 --> 02:15:13,199
okay thank you

3308
02:15:13,199 --> 02:15:14,159
thank you

3309
02:15:14,159 --> 02:15:16,239
anyone else have comment or question

3310
02:15:16,239 --> 02:15:21,510
counselor gordon go ahead

3311
02:15:21,520 --> 02:15:23,119
um that

3312
02:15:23,119 --> 02:15:25,360
hundred dollar cost

3313
02:15:25,360 --> 02:15:28,480
uh to the homeowner is based on it was

3314
02:15:28,480 --> 02:15:30,719
it 2500

3315
02:15:30,719 --> 02:15:35,199
units or no how many families

3316
02:15:35,199 --> 02:15:37,840
so that was based on a hundred

3317
02:15:37,840 --> 02:15:40,159
households participating and the

3318
02:15:40,159 --> 02:15:42,560
municipality subsidizing a hundred

3319
02:15:42,560 --> 02:15:44,560
dollars per household

3320
02:15:44,560 --> 02:15:47,520
so if if only uh if we get into serious

3321
02:15:47,520 --> 02:15:49,040
numbers where

3322
02:15:49,040 --> 02:15:51,040
we've got roughly seven thousand

3323
02:15:51,040 --> 02:15:53,040
five hundred households i think

3324
02:15:53,040 --> 02:15:56,560
if we get into four and five thousand

3325
02:15:56,560 --> 02:15:58,960
uh numbers like uh

3326
02:15:58,960 --> 02:16:02,550
does the cost go down even more

3327
02:16:02,560 --> 02:16:07,109
so there's certainly around 100 bucks

3328
02:16:07,119 --> 02:16:08,880
i'd say there's certainly further

3329
02:16:08,880 --> 02:16:11,040
economies of scale that could be

3330
02:16:11,040 --> 02:16:13,360
achieved what we found with the pilot

3331
02:16:13,360 --> 02:16:16,400
programs we keep the size very low to

3332
02:16:16,400 --> 02:16:19,040
test the concept directly in the

3333
02:16:19,040 --> 02:16:21,440
community and if there is success we'd

3334
02:16:21,440 --> 02:16:23,520
work with you to find grants that could

3335
02:16:23,520 --> 02:16:26,079
fund the expansion there's a lot of

3336
02:16:26,079 --> 02:16:28,239
money out there right now particularly

3337
02:16:28,239 --> 02:16:30,159
from the federal government through the

3338
02:16:30,159 --> 02:16:32,880
green municipal fund that supports this

3339
02:16:32,880 --> 02:16:34,639
and as several of our communities are

3340
02:16:34,639 --> 02:16:37,519
wrapping up pilots with positive results

3341
02:16:37,519 --> 02:16:39,519
that's the angle we're taking to fund

3342
02:16:39,519 --> 02:16:42,319
the expansion so that hopefully the cost

3343
02:16:42,319 --> 02:16:44,960
to a resident to participate

3344
02:16:44,960 --> 02:16:47,200
would eventually be zero and no out of

3345
02:16:47,200 --> 02:16:49,760
pocket cost just like many would expect

3346
02:16:49,760 --> 02:16:52,479
with a green vent type program

3347
02:16:52,479 --> 02:16:54,559
okay

3348
02:16:54,559 --> 02:16:58,790
thank you councillor parks go ahead

3349
02:16:58,800 --> 02:17:01,760
who are you mr mayor um to the presenter

3350
02:17:01,760 --> 02:17:03,280
just looking

3351
02:17:03,280 --> 02:17:04,880
when you run the program how long does

3352
02:17:04,880 --> 02:17:07,120
the program normally run for like the

3353
02:17:07,120 --> 02:17:08,880
pilot program is i'm sorry if i missed

3354
02:17:08,880 --> 02:17:10,800
that

3355
02:17:10,800 --> 02:17:14,639
we recommend a 12-week pilot program

3356
02:17:14,639 --> 02:17:16,719
and that's what we've done uh in the

3357
02:17:16,719 --> 02:17:19,120
past though we're certainly open to

3358
02:17:19,120 --> 02:17:22,399
exploring a longer or shorter program

3359
02:17:22,399 --> 02:17:24,080
based on what staff would recommend for

3360
02:17:24,080 --> 02:17:25,599
your community

3361
02:17:25,599 --> 02:17:26,559
thank you

3362
02:17:26,559 --> 02:17:29,120
can i follow up go ahead um to the

3363
02:17:29,120 --> 02:17:30,080
director

3364
02:17:30,080 --> 02:17:34,319
um i believe we're in the process of

3365
02:17:34,319 --> 02:17:36,240
looking at all the options at this point

3366
02:17:36,240 --> 02:17:37,760
and i just sort of wondered what that

3367
02:17:37,760 --> 02:17:40,559
timeline was for looking at alternatives

3368
02:17:40,559 --> 02:17:42,160
to

3369
02:17:42,160 --> 02:17:43,599
the garbage and recycling that's coming

3370
02:17:43,599 --> 02:17:44,880
up

3371
02:17:44,880 --> 02:17:47,040
mrs mcfarlane are you able to comment

3372
02:17:47,040 --> 02:17:49,359
there we are

3373
02:17:49,359 --> 02:17:52,000
um through you mr mayor um

3374
02:17:52,000 --> 02:17:53,679
we are as

3375
02:17:53,679 --> 02:17:55,200
mr heyman

3376
02:17:55,200 --> 02:17:57,840
spoke we have been in contact

3377
02:17:57,840 --> 02:18:00,639
over the last year with um with this

3378
02:18:00,639 --> 02:18:02,080
company

3379
02:18:02,080 --> 02:18:04,160
we do have staff that are working to

3380
02:18:04,160 --> 02:18:06,319
bring back

3381
02:18:06,319 --> 02:18:08,399
the results of the actual surveys that

3382
02:18:08,399 --> 02:18:11,200
were done and some different options for

3383
02:18:11,200 --> 02:18:12,080
us

3384
02:18:12,080 --> 02:18:15,120
and when we were meeting today we

3385
02:18:15,120 --> 02:18:16,960
we have to look at those contracts and

3386
02:18:16,960 --> 02:18:19,519
probably in the summer we'll be looking

3387
02:18:19,519 --> 02:18:21,200
at um

3388
02:18:21,200 --> 02:18:23,519
redoing the the waste collection

3389
02:18:23,519 --> 02:18:25,599
contracts and at that time or doing the

3390
02:18:25,599 --> 02:18:28,080
tenders and at that time we um

3391
02:18:28,080 --> 02:18:30,160
we will hope to have been able to do

3392
02:18:30,160 --> 02:18:31,840
some more public consultation and come

3393
02:18:31,840 --> 02:18:34,800
back with some different options

3394
02:18:34,800 --> 02:18:36,000
okay

3395
02:18:36,000 --> 02:18:37,599
thank you

3396
02:18:37,599 --> 02:18:42,709
any other comments or questions

3397
02:18:42,719 --> 02:18:44,880
i'm seeing no further questions

3398
02:18:44,880 --> 02:18:46,319
mr hammond has

3399
02:18:46,319 --> 02:18:49,040
posited a a recommendation if you will

3400
02:18:49,040 --> 02:18:50,960
that uh this be

3401
02:18:50,960 --> 02:18:53,200
we authorize staff to continue working

3402
02:18:53,200 --> 02:18:55,040
with the organization

3403
02:18:55,040 --> 02:18:58,399
uh to explore the the this pilot or or

3404
02:18:58,399 --> 02:19:00,800
the options around this

3405
02:19:00,800 --> 02:19:02,639
council would you like to make a motion

3406
02:19:02,639 --> 02:19:05,200
i'll go to council parks

3407
02:19:05,200 --> 02:19:06,800
moved

3408
02:19:06,800 --> 02:19:10,870
so move does the clerk have clarity

3409
02:19:10,880 --> 02:19:13,679
yes yes worship thank you and i believe

3410
02:19:13,679 --> 02:19:15,120
i saw counselor buddha chan for

3411
02:19:15,120 --> 02:19:16,479
seconding

3412
02:19:16,479 --> 02:19:20,399
thank you movers you have to comment

3413
02:19:20,399 --> 02:19:22,479
second or comment

3414
02:19:22,479 --> 02:19:26,629
no anyone else have comment on this

3415
02:19:26,639 --> 02:19:28,319
saying no further comment i'll call the

3416
02:19:28,319 --> 02:19:30,479
question all those in favor please raise

3417
02:19:30,479 --> 02:19:32,399
a hand

3418
02:19:32,399 --> 02:19:34,719
any opposed

3419
02:19:34,719 --> 02:19:37,120
motion is carried thank you

3420
02:19:37,120 --> 02:19:39,200
and thank you mr hammond

3421
02:19:39,200 --> 02:19:42,240
thank you very much mayor and council

3422
02:19:42,240 --> 02:19:43,840
which brings us to the end of

3423
02:19:43,840 --> 02:19:46,240
delegation's presentations

3424
02:19:46,240 --> 02:19:47,599
we move to

3425
02:19:47,599 --> 02:19:50,319
item 10 adoption of minutes

3426
02:19:50,319 --> 02:19:52,240
confirmation of the minutes of the 57th

3427
02:19:52,240 --> 02:19:54,640
session of council from november the 8th

3428
02:19:54,640 --> 02:19:56,240
and are there any noted errors or

3429
02:19:56,240 --> 02:20:00,230
remissions in these minutes

3430
02:20:00,240 --> 02:20:01,920
i'm seeing none can i get a motion to

3431
02:20:01,920 --> 02:20:04,160
approve

3432
02:20:04,160 --> 02:20:07,040
counselor gordon seconded by the deputy

3433
02:20:07,040 --> 02:20:09,040
any comments

3434
02:20:09,040 --> 02:20:10,640
i'll call the question all those in

3435
02:20:10,640 --> 02:20:12,800
favor please raise a hand

3436
02:20:12,800 --> 02:20:14,399
any opposed

3437
02:20:14,399 --> 02:20:17,600
motion is carried

3438
02:20:17,600 --> 02:20:19,600
cancer attendant were you opposed to

3439
02:20:19,600 --> 02:20:20,640
that

3440
02:20:20,640 --> 02:20:22,399
sorry i'm just not trying to highlight

3441
02:20:22,399 --> 02:20:23,760
i'm just

3442
02:20:23,760 --> 02:20:26,080
i think there might be a delay in the in

3443
02:20:26,080 --> 02:20:29,110
the internet

3444
02:20:29,120 --> 02:20:31,120
there there is a delay in your worship

3445
02:20:31,120 --> 02:20:32,960
but i was in favor

3446
02:20:32,960 --> 02:20:34,880
thank you

3447
02:20:34,880 --> 02:20:37,439
and moving forward to the office of the

3448
02:20:37,439 --> 02:20:39,680
chief administrator

3449
02:20:39,680 --> 02:20:43,120
and mr silver is here we have a report

3450
02:20:43,120 --> 02:20:45,760
before us as our 1902

3451
02:20:45,760 --> 02:20:47,439
the acceptance of the gifted property

3452
02:20:47,439 --> 02:20:50,399
and purchase mr silver do you have uh

3453
02:20:50,399 --> 02:20:52,319
anything to highlight or or add to this

3454
02:20:52,319 --> 02:20:53,359
report

3455
02:20:53,359 --> 02:20:56,160
i don't have anything to add to worship

3456
02:20:56,160 --> 02:20:58,000
and thank you council do we have any

3457
02:20:58,000 --> 02:21:02,389
questions with regards to this

3458
02:21:02,399 --> 02:21:04,880
i'm seeing no questions

3459
02:21:04,880 --> 02:21:07,520
we have a recommendation in the report

3460
02:21:07,520 --> 02:21:10,399
to accept the gift to agree to purchase

3461
02:21:10,399 --> 02:21:11,200
and

3462
02:21:11,200 --> 02:21:13,040
the staff you directed to begin the

3463
02:21:13,040 --> 02:21:15,120
public consultation

3464
02:21:15,120 --> 02:21:16,399
and

3465
02:21:16,399 --> 02:21:17,840
that's the recommendation do we have

3466
02:21:17,840 --> 02:21:19,120
anyone wishing to make a motion

3467
02:21:19,120 --> 02:21:23,510
counselor town and go ahead

3468
02:21:23,520 --> 02:21:25,359
and you worship i moved to receive the

3469
02:21:25,359 --> 02:21:27,280
report and adopt recommendations one

3470
02:21:27,280 --> 02:21:28,640
through three

3471
02:21:28,640 --> 02:21:30,160
two and three thank you do i have a

3472
02:21:30,160 --> 02:21:32,240
second or for that

3473
02:21:32,240 --> 02:21:34,160
councilor gordon thank you

3474
02:21:34,160 --> 02:21:37,990
any comment from the mover

3475
02:21:38,000 --> 02:21:40,560
uh only to uh to thank the cio for the

3476
02:21:40,560 --> 02:21:43,520
report and that uh that islanders are uh

3477
02:21:43,520 --> 02:21:47,359
are excited to uh to be engaged on uh

3478
02:21:47,359 --> 02:21:49,680
and consulted on on what will uh will

3479
02:21:49,680 --> 02:21:52,640
happen with both of those properties

3480
02:21:52,640 --> 02:21:56,160
thank you secondary do you have comment

3481
02:21:56,160 --> 02:21:59,590
anyone else have comment

3482
02:21:59,600 --> 02:22:02,000
saying no further comments i will add

3483
02:22:02,000 --> 02:22:03,680
our

3484
02:22:03,680 --> 02:22:06,000
expression of thanks to uh

3485
02:22:06,000 --> 02:22:07,680
the gowans for the donation of the

3486
02:22:07,680 --> 02:22:10,160
property it is greatly appreciated they

3487
02:22:10,160 --> 02:22:12,160
are great community members

3488
02:22:12,160 --> 02:22:14,560
with that i will call the question

3489
02:22:14,560 --> 02:22:18,080
all those in favor please raise a hand

3490
02:22:18,080 --> 02:22:21,760
any opposed motion is carried

3491
02:22:21,760 --> 02:22:24,319
we move to item 13

3492
02:22:24,319 --> 02:22:26,399
business services treasury department

3493
02:22:26,399 --> 02:22:31,840
13.1 is the 2022 water sewer user rates

3494
02:22:31,840 --> 02:22:33,680
we have a report before us and we have

3495
02:22:33,680 --> 02:22:36,240
mr dickey before us mr dickey do you

3496
02:22:36,240 --> 02:22:38,160
have anything you'd like to highlight in

3497
02:22:38,160 --> 02:22:41,760
this report or add to it

3498
02:22:41,760 --> 02:22:43,920
good evening nothing to add to it mr

3499
02:22:43,920 --> 02:22:46,160
mayor through you um

3500
02:22:46,160 --> 02:22:47,680
we do have the deputy treasurer and

3501
02:22:47,680 --> 02:22:49,680
senior financial analyst available who

3502
02:22:49,680 --> 02:22:51,439
did most of the analysis

3503
02:22:51,439 --> 02:22:54,640
on the rates so there is a choice

3504
02:22:54,640 --> 02:22:56,160
or a couple of options for counseling

3505
02:22:56,160 --> 02:22:58,560
the motion but uh we'll be willing to

3506
02:22:58,560 --> 02:23:00,399
receive any questions

3507
02:23:00,399 --> 02:23:01,439
thank you

3508
02:23:01,439 --> 02:23:04,560
council do we have questions

3509
02:23:04,560 --> 02:23:07,040
for either the treasurer or the uh the

3510
02:23:07,040 --> 02:23:11,670
deputy or the senior analyst

3511
02:23:11,680 --> 02:23:15,590
i'm seeing no questions

3512
02:23:15,600 --> 02:23:17,600
again as the treasurer highlighted we do

3513
02:23:17,600 --> 02:23:18,880
have some options within the

3514
02:23:18,880 --> 02:23:21,040
recommendations

3515
02:23:21,040 --> 02:23:22,800
there's no questions i will look to

3516
02:23:22,800 --> 02:23:25,600
council to make a motion to identify an

3517
02:23:25,600 --> 02:23:30,550
option counselor budaric go ahead

3518
02:23:30,560 --> 02:23:33,280
these are very welcoming uh options um

3519
02:23:33,280 --> 02:23:35,920
and since they obviously make uh

3520
02:23:35,920 --> 02:23:38,240
financial sin uh sense or they wouldn't

3521
02:23:38,240 --> 02:23:40,640
be put before us i would love to go with

3522
02:23:40,640 --> 02:23:41,760
option b

3523
02:23:41,760 --> 02:23:44,160
um as uh

3524
02:23:44,160 --> 02:23:46,560
that is one of the two hot topic buttons

3525
02:23:46,560 --> 02:23:49,920
i hear the most from my constituents um

3526
02:23:49,920 --> 02:23:51,120
that uh

3527
02:23:51,120 --> 02:23:54,560
our water rates are increase

3528
02:23:54,560 --> 02:23:56,880
crazy in comparison to uh other

3529
02:23:56,880 --> 02:23:59,439
municipalities and uh

3530
02:23:59,439 --> 02:24:00,800
like i said it wouldn't be an option if

3531
02:24:00,800 --> 02:24:02,240
it wasn't in front of us and i'd like to

3532
02:24:02,240 --> 02:24:04,080
take an opportunity to run with it thank

3533
02:24:04,080 --> 02:24:05,200
you

3534
02:24:05,200 --> 02:24:07,200
so your motion is to receive the report

3535
02:24:07,200 --> 02:24:10,080
and adopt recommendation b no change in

3536
02:24:10,080 --> 02:24:11,040
rates

3537
02:24:11,040 --> 02:24:12,240
yes sir

3538
02:24:12,240 --> 02:24:14,640
thank you do i have a second or for that

3539
02:24:14,640 --> 02:24:17,040
councilor parks thank you

3540
02:24:17,040 --> 02:24:21,030
mover any further comment

3541
02:24:21,040 --> 02:24:23,200
uh like the deputy said earlier i was

3542
02:24:23,200 --> 02:24:24,720
long-winded enough in the first time

3543
02:24:24,720 --> 02:24:26,000
around thank you

3544
02:24:26,000 --> 02:24:27,439
thank you councillor parks you're the

3545
02:24:27,439 --> 02:24:29,120
secondary would you like to make comment

3546
02:24:29,120 --> 02:24:31,680
uh i just wanted to reiterate what uh

3547
02:24:31,680 --> 02:24:33,920
council broderick has said uh our rates

3548
02:24:33,920 --> 02:24:35,200
are are

3549
02:24:35,200 --> 02:24:37,200
extremely expensive so it's nice to see

3550
02:24:37,200 --> 02:24:39,439
that we have this option

3551
02:24:39,439 --> 02:24:40,560
thank you

3552
02:24:40,560 --> 02:24:45,270
anyone else wish to make comment

3553
02:24:45,280 --> 02:24:47,520
seeing no further comments oh sorry

3554
02:24:47,520 --> 02:24:50,000
deputy go ahead thank you

3555
02:24:50,000 --> 02:24:51,920
um the one thing that i want to point

3556
02:24:51,920 --> 02:24:54,720
out and which causes me concern is that

3557
02:24:54,720 --> 02:24:56,960
with with this uh

3558
02:24:56,960 --> 02:24:58,800
um

3559
02:24:58,800 --> 02:25:00,240
the income has to come some from

3560
02:25:00,240 --> 02:25:02,399
somewhere so in the report it says that

3561
02:25:02,399 --> 02:25:04,720
there'll be a reduction in capital

3562
02:25:04,720 --> 02:25:05,680
um

3563
02:25:05,680 --> 02:25:07,840
which means the maintenance and upkeep

3564
02:25:07,840 --> 02:25:08,800
and

3565
02:25:08,800 --> 02:25:11,040
advancements in our systems

3566
02:25:11,040 --> 02:25:12,720
will lag behind

3567
02:25:12,720 --> 02:25:13,520
if

3568
02:25:13,520 --> 02:25:15,840
this option is uh

3569
02:25:15,840 --> 02:25:18,950
goes through

3570
02:25:18,960 --> 02:25:20,240
thank you

3571
02:25:20,240 --> 02:25:21,120
and

3572
02:25:21,120 --> 02:25:24,000
any other comments

3573
02:25:24,000 --> 02:25:24,800
and

3574
02:25:24,800 --> 02:25:26,960
i'm seeing no comments no further

3575
02:25:26,960 --> 02:25:28,080
comments

3576
02:25:28,080 --> 02:25:29,359
right

3577
02:25:29,359 --> 02:25:30,960
back to the mover

3578
02:25:30,960 --> 02:25:32,240
no

3579
02:25:32,240 --> 02:25:34,960
uh yeah i'd just like to reiterate the

3580
02:25:34,960 --> 02:25:37,280
fact that um i'm only bringing this

3581
02:25:37,280 --> 02:25:39,040
forward because it was an option for us

3582
02:25:39,040 --> 02:25:40,960
and and and i agree with the deputy on

3583
02:25:40,960 --> 02:25:44,399
what he's saying um however uh

3584
02:25:44,399 --> 02:25:46,240
it wouldn't be brought to us if it

3585
02:25:46,240 --> 02:25:47,280
wasn't

3586
02:25:47,280 --> 02:25:49,520
possible is all i'm trying to say that's

3587
02:25:49,520 --> 02:25:51,280
why it was going with option b but that

3588
02:25:51,280 --> 02:25:54,479
is it okay thank you

3589
02:25:54,479 --> 02:25:56,880
with that i will call the question

3590
02:25:56,880 --> 02:26:02,469
all those in favor please raise a hand

3591
02:26:02,479 --> 02:26:04,880
and counselor gordon i can't see you

3592
02:26:04,880 --> 02:26:07,600
right now okay hand is up okay thank you

3593
02:26:07,600 --> 02:26:11,349
all right any opposed

3594
02:26:11,359 --> 02:26:14,640
thank you motion is carried

3595
02:26:14,640 --> 02:26:18,200
move forward to item 13.2

3596
02:26:18,200 --> 02:26:21,840
2022 escalation of frontage fees

3597
02:26:21,840 --> 02:26:23,520
and we again we have the treasury with

3598
02:26:23,520 --> 02:26:24,240
us

3599
02:26:24,240 --> 02:26:25,520
okay do you have anything to add or

3600
02:26:25,520 --> 02:26:28,479
highlight in this report

3601
02:26:28,479 --> 02:26:30,720
mr mayor nothing at this time

3602
02:26:30,720 --> 02:26:32,720
it's time council do we have any

3603
02:26:32,720 --> 02:26:36,150
questions

3604
02:26:36,160 --> 02:26:38,479
seeing no questions

3605
02:26:38,479 --> 02:26:43,990
i'll look for a motion

3606
02:26:44,000 --> 02:26:45,520
deputy go ahead

3607
02:26:45,520 --> 02:26:46,640
move to receive and adopt the

3608
02:26:46,640 --> 02:26:48,160
recommendation

3609
02:26:48,160 --> 02:26:50,160
receiving adopt do i have a second or

3610
02:26:50,160 --> 02:26:54,550
for that

3611
02:26:54,560 --> 02:26:56,880
counselor gordon seconds thank you

3612
02:26:56,880 --> 02:26:59,439
deputy any comment

3613
02:26:59,439 --> 02:27:00,840
second or any

3614
02:27:00,840 --> 02:27:04,000
comment anyone else have comment on this

3615
02:27:04,000 --> 02:27:06,469
motion

3616
02:27:06,479 --> 02:27:08,880
seeing none i'll call the question all

3617
02:27:08,880 --> 02:27:12,640
those in favor please raise a hand

3618
02:27:12,640 --> 02:27:17,120
any opposed motion is carried we move to

3619
02:27:17,120 --> 02:27:20,880
item 13.3 operating status is at

3620
02:27:20,880 --> 02:27:22,960
september 30th

3621
02:27:22,960 --> 02:27:24,720
year-end projections and capital works

3622
02:27:24,720 --> 02:27:26,960
in progress in progress

3623
02:27:26,960 --> 02:27:28,479
again mr

3624
02:27:28,479 --> 02:27:31,040
mr dickey is here do you have anything

3625
02:27:31,040 --> 02:27:34,399
to highlight within this report sir

3626
02:27:34,399 --> 02:27:36,960
um through you mr merritt um

3627
02:27:36,960 --> 02:27:38,240
just um

3628
02:27:38,240 --> 02:27:39,760
we are projecting a bit of a surplus

3629
02:27:39,760 --> 02:27:41,760
again this year so just really mainly

3630
02:27:41,760 --> 02:27:43,520
the highlights in the report but

3631
02:27:43,520 --> 02:27:46,479
um i think there have been

3632
02:27:46,479 --> 02:27:48,640
with a pandemic and

3633
02:27:48,640 --> 02:27:50,080
delay in getting hiring going over the

3634
02:27:50,080 --> 02:27:51,600
last couple years we have been slow at

3635
02:27:51,600 --> 02:27:52,880
filling some of the positions and

3636
02:27:52,880 --> 02:27:54,960
replacing positions so

3637
02:27:54,960 --> 02:27:57,359
that has created the bulk of the

3638
02:27:57,359 --> 02:27:58,960
kind of the projected surplus for this

3639
02:27:58,960 --> 02:27:59,920
year but

3640
02:27:59,920 --> 02:28:02,319
um just for council's awareness we have

3641
02:28:02,319 --> 02:28:03,040
been

3642
02:28:03,040 --> 02:28:04,800
closing that gap and i think by the end

3643
02:28:04,800 --> 02:28:05,920
of this year the

3644
02:28:05,920 --> 02:28:08,240
virtually all those positions

3645
02:28:08,240 --> 02:28:10,880
are will be filled so we'll be

3646
02:28:10,880 --> 02:28:13,120
that um that gap should be there next

3647
02:28:13,120 --> 02:28:15,040
year we are catching up with the hiring

3648
02:28:15,040 --> 02:28:16,160
that needs to be done over the last

3649
02:28:16,160 --> 02:28:17,840
couple years so that will

3650
02:28:17,840 --> 02:28:21,120
um that will help without going forward

3651
02:28:21,120 --> 02:28:23,040
thank you

3652
02:28:23,040 --> 02:28:24,560
council do we have any questions with

3653
02:28:24,560 --> 02:28:28,000
regards to this deputy go ahead

3654
02:28:28,000 --> 02:28:30,880
just want to confirm um

3655
02:28:30,880 --> 02:28:32,960
i believe if i read it correctly there's

3656
02:28:32,960 --> 02:28:35,200
going to be some of the losses that are

3657
02:28:35,200 --> 02:28:37,520
going to be reviewed for

3658
02:28:37,520 --> 02:28:38,880
whether it can be funded through the

3659
02:28:38,880 --> 02:28:41,120
reopening ontario funding

3660
02:28:41,120 --> 02:28:43,120
am i correct that at the end of the year

3661
02:28:43,120 --> 02:28:46,080
things like the fees

3662
02:28:46,080 --> 02:28:47,840
the lost fees

3663
02:28:47,840 --> 02:28:50,800
whether it's ferry transit recreation

3664
02:28:50,800 --> 02:28:53,040
they'll all be reviewed for

3665
02:28:53,040 --> 02:28:54,960
potential funding from the other levels

3666
02:28:54,960 --> 02:28:58,950
of government

3667
02:28:58,960 --> 02:29:00,720
through you mr mayor

3668
02:29:00,720 --> 02:29:03,439
um yeah yeah so we we do um

3669
02:29:03,439 --> 02:29:05,200
we do still have that we've been we've

3670
02:29:05,200 --> 02:29:06,720
received funding that we're holding on

3671
02:29:06,720 --> 02:29:09,600
to so we will

3672
02:29:09,600 --> 02:29:11,280
be required to report back at the end of

3673
02:29:11,280 --> 02:29:12,560
the year

3674
02:29:12,560 --> 02:29:14,960
with um kind of results the extra costs

3675
02:29:14,960 --> 02:29:17,120
the lost revenue according to the pen

3676
02:29:17,120 --> 02:29:18,800
because of the pandemic

3677
02:29:18,800 --> 02:29:20,319
the one thing we're not sure because we

3678
02:29:20,319 --> 02:29:22,640
have surpluses in other areas

3679
02:29:22,640 --> 02:29:24,399
the way the for funding has appeared to

3680
02:29:24,399 --> 02:29:26,960
work so far is if you've offset some of

3681
02:29:26,960 --> 02:29:29,040
your extra costs

3682
02:29:29,040 --> 02:29:30,800
through other savings

3683
02:29:30,800 --> 02:29:32,560
we're not sure how much of that funding

3684
02:29:32,560 --> 02:29:35,359
will be eligible to receive

3685
02:29:35,359 --> 02:29:37,439
last year we did we were able to take

3686
02:29:37,439 --> 02:29:39,359
some of the money into offset ferry fees

3687
02:29:39,359 --> 02:29:41,040
in 2020

3688
02:29:41,040 --> 02:29:43,200
so we will look at that again

3689
02:29:43,200 --> 02:29:45,040
so so that money is available to us if

3690
02:29:45,040 --> 02:29:46,399
we need it we're just at this point

3691
02:29:46,399 --> 02:29:48,800
until we do the year-end filing we're

3692
02:29:48,800 --> 02:29:50,800
not sure exactly how much of it will be

3693
02:29:50,800 --> 02:29:52,560
eligible for but it is there available

3694
02:29:52,560 --> 02:29:54,800
for us if we need it

3695
02:29:54,800 --> 02:29:57,429
thank you

3696
02:29:57,439 --> 02:29:59,040
any other questions with regard to this

3697
02:29:59,040 --> 02:30:04,710
report

3698
02:30:04,720 --> 02:30:07,280
i'm seeing no further questions

3699
02:30:07,280 --> 02:30:12,309
and do i have a motion

3700
02:30:12,319 --> 02:30:15,040
anyone oh deputy go ahead

3701
02:30:15,040 --> 02:30:16,160
move to receive and adopt the

3702
02:30:16,160 --> 02:30:18,160
recommendation question to receive and

3703
02:30:18,160 --> 02:30:21,670
adopt do i have a seconder

3704
02:30:21,680 --> 02:30:23,920
and cancer town in

3705
02:30:23,920 --> 02:30:25,200
yes okay

3706
02:30:25,200 --> 02:30:28,399
so very quickly right any any comments

3707
02:30:28,399 --> 02:30:30,560
mover seconder

3708
02:30:30,560 --> 02:30:34,309
no anyone else have comment

3709
02:30:34,319 --> 02:30:36,080
i'm seeing no comments

3710
02:30:36,080 --> 02:30:37,760
i'll call the question

3711
02:30:37,760 --> 02:30:40,479
all those in favor please raise a hand

3712
02:30:40,479 --> 02:30:42,000
any opposed

3713
02:30:42,000 --> 02:30:46,710
promotion is carried

3714
02:30:46,720 --> 02:30:49,590
forward to

3715
02:30:49,600 --> 02:30:51,680
13.4

3716
02:30:51,680 --> 02:30:56,560
2022 escalation of imposed growth fees

3717
02:30:56,560 --> 02:30:58,319
and you're really providing us with a

3718
02:30:58,319 --> 02:31:00,479
lot of reports tonight mr dickey

3719
02:31:00,479 --> 02:31:02,399
do you have anything to add or highlight

3720
02:31:02,399 --> 02:31:03,680
all right

3721
02:31:03,680 --> 02:31:05,600
it's okay

3722
02:31:05,600 --> 02:31:08,000
um through you nothing in addition to

3723
02:31:08,000 --> 02:31:09,439
what's in the report

3724
02:31:09,439 --> 02:31:11,520
just if anyone has questions

3725
02:31:11,520 --> 02:31:15,359
thank you council do you have questions

3726
02:31:15,359 --> 02:31:17,680
seeing none

3727
02:31:17,680 --> 02:31:19,280
and

3728
02:31:19,280 --> 02:31:24,790
do i have a motion

3729
02:31:24,800 --> 02:31:27,520
counselor town him so moved

3730
02:31:27,520 --> 02:31:29,040
moving the recommendation do i have a

3731
02:31:29,040 --> 02:31:32,309
seconder

3732
02:31:32,319 --> 02:31:34,640
deputy thank you any comments from the

3733
02:31:34,640 --> 02:31:36,880
mover and seconder

3734
02:31:36,880 --> 02:31:40,160
any comments from anyone else

3735
02:31:40,160 --> 02:31:41,760
i'm seeing none

3736
02:31:41,760 --> 02:31:43,600
i will call the question all those in

3737
02:31:43,600 --> 02:31:47,030
favor please raise a hand

3738
02:31:47,040 --> 02:31:48,720
any opposed

3739
02:31:48,720 --> 02:31:50,800
motion is carried

3740
02:31:50,800 --> 02:31:52,880
and we move to the america scholarship

3741
02:31:52,880 --> 02:31:55,520
fund 2021.

3742
02:31:55,520 --> 02:31:57,600
annual report

3743
02:31:57,600 --> 02:31:59,920
we have a recommendation

3744
02:31:59,920 --> 02:32:02,000
do i have any

3745
02:32:02,000 --> 02:32:03,600
mr dickey do you have anything to add to

3746
02:32:03,600 --> 02:32:05,280
it at this time

3747
02:32:05,280 --> 02:32:07,600
now through you mr mayor nothing

3748
02:32:07,600 --> 02:32:09,439
unfortunately the there have been a lot

3749
02:32:09,439 --> 02:32:10,960
of donations this year and of course our

3750
02:32:10,960 --> 02:32:12,880
investment income rate is

3751
02:32:12,880 --> 02:32:14,880
as a historic low so we don't have as

3752
02:32:14,880 --> 02:32:16,399
much to distribute unfortunately it is a

3753
02:32:16,399 --> 02:32:18,560
nice program it's it's great for

3754
02:32:18,560 --> 02:32:20,080
for students to be able to get a little

3755
02:32:20,080 --> 02:32:21,920
bit of extra money so it's unfortunately

3756
02:32:21,920 --> 02:32:24,319
not a lot this year but

3757
02:32:24,319 --> 02:32:26,240
we are proposing to distribute as as per

3758
02:32:26,240 --> 02:32:28,720
the intent of the trust

3759
02:32:28,720 --> 02:32:30,720
absolutely thank you

3760
02:32:30,720 --> 02:32:34,230
any questions

3761
02:32:34,240 --> 02:32:36,399
seeing no questions i'll look for a

3762
02:32:36,399 --> 02:32:39,280
motion

3763
02:32:39,280 --> 02:32:40,800
counselor town and so moved to the

3764
02:32:40,800 --> 02:32:42,319
recommendation

3765
02:32:42,319 --> 02:32:44,720
and counselor brew direct seconds

3766
02:32:44,720 --> 02:32:46,640
thank you mover and seconder have

3767
02:32:46,640 --> 02:32:49,270
comment

3768
02:32:49,280 --> 02:32:52,479
and counselor tannen

3769
02:32:52,479 --> 02:32:54,080
did you have go ahead just my

3770
02:32:54,080 --> 02:32:57,439
congratulations to all those recipients

3771
02:32:57,439 --> 02:32:59,439
excellent thank you anyone else have

3772
02:32:59,439 --> 02:33:01,439
comment

3773
02:33:01,439 --> 02:33:03,040
i'll call the question all those in

3774
02:33:03,040 --> 02:33:05,040
favor please raise a hand

3775
02:33:05,040 --> 02:33:06,960
any opposed

3776
02:33:06,960 --> 02:33:08,880
motion is carried

3777
02:33:08,880 --> 02:33:11,040
we move to the community and customer

3778
02:33:11,040 --> 02:33:13,840
services department item 14.1 the bath

3779
02:33:13,840 --> 02:33:16,720
gardening club request to waive fees

3780
02:33:16,720 --> 02:33:19,200
i see that ms miss mcfarland is coming

3781
02:33:19,200 --> 02:33:22,640
on screen we have a report before us

3782
02:33:22,640 --> 02:33:23,920
do you have anything to highlight or to

3783
02:33:23,920 --> 02:33:25,600
add in this report

3784
02:33:25,600 --> 02:33:27,920
uh nothing further your worship thank

3785
02:33:27,920 --> 02:33:28,800
you

3786
02:33:28,800 --> 02:33:33,270
council do you have any questions

3787
02:33:33,280 --> 02:33:35,600
i'm seeing no questions we do have a

3788
02:33:35,600 --> 02:33:37,439
recommendation including two options or

3789
02:33:37,439 --> 02:33:40,720
not two options but two uh points

3790
02:33:40,720 --> 02:33:42,000
council what would you like to do with

3791
02:33:42,000 --> 02:33:46,830
the recommendation

3792
02:33:46,840 --> 02:33:48,800
deputy

3793
02:33:48,800 --> 02:33:49,920
i have to receive and adopt the

3794
02:33:49,920 --> 02:33:51,760
recommendation motion to receive and

3795
02:33:51,760 --> 02:33:53,760
adopt do i have a seconder

3796
02:33:53,760 --> 02:33:56,319
council parks thank you

3797
02:33:56,319 --> 02:33:59,760
any comments from the mover or seconder

3798
02:33:59,760 --> 02:34:01,359
no

3799
02:34:01,359 --> 02:34:04,070
anyone else

3800
02:34:04,080 --> 02:34:06,479
seeing none i'll call the question all

3801
02:34:06,479 --> 02:34:08,960
those in favor please raise a hand

3802
02:34:08,960 --> 02:34:10,880
any opposed

3803
02:34:10,880 --> 02:34:15,270
motion is carried

3804
02:34:15,280 --> 02:34:18,000
item 14.2 the interesting years seniors

3805
02:34:18,000 --> 02:34:21,600
club request to adjust fees

3806
02:34:21,600 --> 02:34:24,640
more covid challenges as mcfarland

3807
02:34:24,640 --> 02:34:26,479
okay do you have anything to add or to

3808
02:34:26,479 --> 02:34:28,399
highlight in this report

3809
02:34:28,399 --> 02:34:31,040
nothing further your worship thank you

3810
02:34:31,040 --> 02:34:32,880
does anyone have a question about this

3811
02:34:32,880 --> 02:34:35,670
report

3812
02:34:35,680 --> 02:34:38,319
i'm seeing no questions again we have a

3813
02:34:38,319 --> 02:34:42,150
recommendation before us

3814
02:34:42,160 --> 02:34:43,520
council what would you like to do with

3815
02:34:43,520 --> 02:34:45,439
it

3816
02:34:45,439 --> 02:34:47,920
and did i see your hand kessler goodrich

3817
02:34:47,920 --> 02:34:50,880
thank you you're so moved

3818
02:34:50,880 --> 02:34:53,520
do i have a seconder

3819
02:34:53,520 --> 02:34:55,680
counselor gordon thank you

3820
02:34:55,680 --> 02:34:58,640
mover comment second or comment nothing

3821
02:34:58,640 --> 02:35:03,190
nothing anyone else have comment

3822
02:35:03,200 --> 02:35:04,560
seeing none

3823
02:35:04,560 --> 02:35:07,040
and i'll call the question all those in

3824
02:35:07,040 --> 02:35:10,319
favor please raise a hand

3825
02:35:10,319 --> 02:35:13,920
any opposed motion is carried

3826
02:35:13,920 --> 02:35:17,040
we move to item 14.3 a report regarding

3827
02:35:17,040 --> 02:35:20,870
the bath park's garage

3828
02:35:20,880 --> 02:35:22,560
ms mcfarland do you have anything to uh

3829
02:35:22,560 --> 02:35:24,880
comment on this report

3830
02:35:24,880 --> 02:35:27,359
uh the only thing your worship that i'd

3831
02:35:27,359 --> 02:35:29,359
like to uh point out is that

3832
02:35:29,359 --> 02:35:31,680
unfortunately the uh

3833
02:35:31,680 --> 02:35:33,920
through some staff turnover this uh

3834
02:35:33,920 --> 02:35:36,960
issue wasn't um addressed and

3835
02:35:36,960 --> 02:35:39,439
when our new parks and manager or parks

3836
02:35:39,439 --> 02:35:42,319
and facilities manager started

3837
02:35:42,319 --> 02:35:43,359
she

3838
02:35:43,359 --> 02:35:46,000
worked to address it and meet with the

3839
02:35:46,000 --> 02:35:48,240
resident and

3840
02:35:48,240 --> 02:35:50,800
listen to the concerns and has tried to

3841
02:35:50,800 --> 02:35:53,280
change some operating

3842
02:35:53,280 --> 02:35:55,040
uh practices to see if we could

3843
02:35:55,040 --> 02:35:57,120
alleviate the um

3844
02:35:57,120 --> 02:35:58,960
some of the the concerns that were

3845
02:35:58,960 --> 02:36:00,479
expressed

3846
02:36:00,479 --> 02:36:02,479
so we i i'm just apologizing for it

3847
02:36:02,479 --> 02:36:05,760
being so long coming back to council

3848
02:36:05,760 --> 02:36:07,760
thank you very much

3849
02:36:07,760 --> 02:36:11,280
council do i have any questions

3850
02:36:11,280 --> 02:36:13,280
counselor parks go ahead

3851
02:36:13,280 --> 02:36:15,840
through you mr mayor to the uh director

3852
02:36:15,840 --> 02:36:18,160
um has the resident provided any

3853
02:36:18,160 --> 02:36:19,840
feedback since you've made some of those

3854
02:36:19,840 --> 02:36:23,040
amendments or changes to some of the

3855
02:36:23,040 --> 02:36:25,359
processes or the operation just wondered

3856
02:36:25,359 --> 02:36:27,280
if there'd been any feedback

3857
02:36:27,280 --> 02:36:29,520
um through you mr mayor not to my

3858
02:36:29,520 --> 02:36:30,560
knowledge

3859
02:36:30,560 --> 02:36:32,399
um

3860
02:36:32,399 --> 02:36:37,110
they they have not provided feedback

3861
02:36:37,120 --> 02:36:41,110
anyone else have a question

3862
02:36:41,120 --> 02:36:42,960
i don't think so

3863
02:36:42,960 --> 02:36:46,950
can i get a motion please

3864
02:36:46,960 --> 02:36:50,720
council parks go ahead

3865
02:36:50,720 --> 02:36:53,680
sorry um just to

3866
02:36:53,680 --> 02:36:56,000
where are you going to find it

3867
02:36:56,000 --> 02:36:59,359
to uh receive it and remain status quo

3868
02:36:59,359 --> 02:37:00,399
thank you

3869
02:37:00,399 --> 02:37:03,600
all of us do i have a secondary

3870
02:37:03,600 --> 02:37:05,920
councilor buderic thank you any comments

3871
02:37:05,920 --> 02:37:08,319
from the mover or seconder

3872
02:37:08,319 --> 02:37:09,120
no

3873
02:37:09,120 --> 02:37:11,120
anyone else

3874
02:37:11,120 --> 02:37:12,720
i'll call the question all those in

3875
02:37:12,720 --> 02:37:15,439
favor please raise a hand

3876
02:37:15,439 --> 02:37:32,389
any opposed motion not available

3877
02:37:32,399 --> 02:37:34,080
to the clerk

3878
02:37:34,080 --> 02:37:36,399
you missed the uh corporate services

3879
02:37:36,399 --> 02:37:38,000
your worship oh

3880
02:37:38,000 --> 02:37:41,600
my apologies i skipped over right

3881
02:37:41,600 --> 02:37:44,560
happens to be the clerk's own items

3882
02:37:44,560 --> 02:37:47,840
at item 15.1 before we get to ms merritt

3883
02:37:47,840 --> 02:37:50,960
uh the pound services agreement renewal

3884
02:37:50,960 --> 02:37:53,359
okay we have the report before us madam

3885
02:37:53,359 --> 02:37:54,800
clerk do you have anything to highlight

3886
02:37:54,800 --> 02:37:56,960
or to add to this report

3887
02:37:56,960 --> 02:37:59,359
uh it's just it we did a pilot project

3888
02:37:59,359 --> 02:38:01,280
on it last year you worship they've had

3889
02:38:01,280 --> 02:38:04,000
some changes in greater napanee but we

3890
02:38:04,000 --> 02:38:06,479
have reached out and and we're uh giving

3891
02:38:06,479 --> 02:38:07,680
it another

3892
02:38:07,680 --> 02:38:09,439
go for this year uh

3893
02:38:09,439 --> 02:38:12,080
we haven't heard any negative from it so

3894
02:38:12,080 --> 02:38:14,319
i think it's a win-win uh partnership

3895
02:38:14,319 --> 02:38:16,880
with greater napanee on this

3896
02:38:16,880 --> 02:38:18,000
thank you

3897
02:38:18,000 --> 02:38:19,840
council do we have uh comments or

3898
02:38:19,840 --> 02:38:22,469
questions

3899
02:38:22,479 --> 02:38:24,800
i'm seeing none can i get a motion

3900
02:38:24,800 --> 02:38:27,990
please

3901
02:38:28,000 --> 02:38:30,399
deputy go ahead and receive and adopt

3902
02:38:30,399 --> 02:38:32,720
the recommendation so i moved do i have

3903
02:38:32,720 --> 02:38:33,920
a seconder

3904
02:38:33,920 --> 02:38:35,840
counselor bootrick thank you

3905
02:38:35,840 --> 02:38:38,960
any comments from the mover and seconder

3906
02:38:38,960 --> 02:38:41,439
no anyone else

3907
02:38:41,439 --> 02:38:43,760
saying none i'll call the question all

3908
02:38:43,760 --> 02:38:46,560
those in favor please raise a hand

3909
02:38:46,560 --> 02:38:48,080
any opposed

3910
02:38:48,080 --> 02:38:49,760
motion is carried

3911
02:38:49,760 --> 02:38:52,240
now we can come to economic growth and

3912
02:38:52,240 --> 02:38:54,399
community development services

3913
02:38:54,399 --> 02:38:58,080
as merit we have the crca lidar project

3914
02:38:58,080 --> 02:39:00,560
partnership report before us

3915
02:39:00,560 --> 02:39:02,720
do you have anything to add to it

3916
02:39:02,720 --> 02:39:04,479
uh through you your worship actually i'd

3917
02:39:04,479 --> 02:39:07,359
like to clarify i typically write um you

3918
02:39:07,359 --> 02:39:09,359
know like not just the acronym but what

3919
02:39:09,359 --> 02:39:10,960
it actually means

3920
02:39:10,960 --> 02:39:12,560
so i've been asked that question today

3921
02:39:12,560 --> 02:39:14,560
so lidar basically stands for light

3922
02:39:14,560 --> 02:39:16,560
detection and ranging

3923
02:39:16,560 --> 02:39:18,960
um processor that's a technology that

3924
02:39:18,960 --> 02:39:21,760
gives us really high resolution models

3925
02:39:21,760 --> 02:39:24,399
of ground elevation so we do have some

3926
02:39:24,399 --> 02:39:27,280
lidar information for the township but

3927
02:39:27,280 --> 02:39:29,520
it some of it is outdated

3928
02:39:29,520 --> 02:39:30,960
the technology is a little bit better

3929
02:39:30,960 --> 02:39:31,920
now

3930
02:39:31,920 --> 02:39:33,760
and also it's going to help us fill some

3931
02:39:33,760 --> 02:39:36,560
gaps in our data

3932
02:39:36,560 --> 02:39:38,720
so now that i've said that actually i

3933
02:39:38,720 --> 02:39:43,280
need to make a small uh update um

3934
02:39:43,280 --> 02:39:45,920
i need to know that um in the attached

3935
02:39:45,920 --> 02:39:48,319
agreement in the attached bylaw so it's

3936
02:39:48,319 --> 02:39:52,479
page 640 of your of your agenda

3937
02:39:52,479 --> 02:39:56,479
in item 3.2 it gives a

3938
02:39:56,479 --> 02:39:58,240
the installment has to be paid by

3939
02:39:58,240 --> 02:40:01,359
december 1st 2021

3940
02:40:01,359 --> 02:40:04,080
staff actually requested crca to amend

3941
02:40:04,080 --> 02:40:08,960
their agreement to say march 31st 2022

3942
02:40:08,960 --> 02:40:11,040
to give us an opportunity to budget for

3943
02:40:11,040 --> 02:40:15,520
it in 2022 if council supports

3944
02:40:15,520 --> 02:40:17,840
this partnership with crca so that's a

3945
02:40:17,840 --> 02:40:19,920
very small change i have the updated

3946
02:40:19,920 --> 02:40:22,640
bylaw the updated agreement uh for the

3947
02:40:22,640 --> 02:40:23,680
clerk

3948
02:40:23,680 --> 02:40:26,080
i will send over but if if you're

3949
02:40:26,080 --> 02:40:29,120
agreeing to the change we'll just

3950
02:40:29,120 --> 02:40:31,359
send the revised bylaw

3951
02:40:31,359 --> 02:40:33,520
okay thank you council do we have any

3952
02:40:33,520 --> 02:40:38,150
questions from his merit

3953
02:40:38,160 --> 02:40:40,240
doesn't look like it we all understood

3954
02:40:40,240 --> 02:40:42,240
lidar

3955
02:40:42,240 --> 02:40:45,520
right so we have a recommendation to uh

3956
02:40:45,520 --> 02:40:47,200
you know enter into an agreement with

3957
02:40:47,200 --> 02:40:48,560
the crca

3958
02:40:48,560 --> 02:40:50,960
with the modification to the

3959
02:40:50,960 --> 02:40:54,319
agreement as presented changing the date

3960
02:40:54,319 --> 02:40:56,960
do i have a mover for that or any or

3961
02:40:56,960 --> 02:40:58,399
however you'd like to make a motion

3962
02:40:58,399 --> 02:41:01,429
deputy go ahead

3963
02:41:01,439 --> 02:41:02,720
move to receive and adopt the

3964
02:41:02,720 --> 02:41:05,359
recommendation with the bylaw as amended

3965
02:41:05,359 --> 02:41:09,200
thank you councillor budrick your second

3966
02:41:09,200 --> 02:41:12,960
any comment from the mover and seconder

3967
02:41:12,960 --> 02:41:13,840
no

3968
02:41:13,840 --> 02:41:16,960
anyone else

3969
02:41:16,960 --> 02:41:19,520
seeing none i will call the question all

3970
02:41:19,520 --> 02:41:22,319
those in favor please raise a hand

3971
02:41:22,319 --> 02:41:24,319
and the opposed

3972
02:41:24,319 --> 02:41:26,560
motion is carried

3973
02:41:26,560 --> 02:41:29,279
item 16.2 the development approval

3974
02:41:29,279 --> 02:41:31,520
process project status

3975
02:41:31,520 --> 02:41:33,200
we have a report

3976
02:41:33,200 --> 02:41:34,800
before us i do note that the

3977
02:41:34,800 --> 02:41:36,640
recommendation has an ore

3978
02:41:36,640 --> 02:41:38,720
uh but i will go to the director

3979
02:41:38,720 --> 02:41:41,600
anything to highlight

3980
02:41:41,600 --> 02:41:44,000
uh no there's nothing to highlight uh

3981
02:41:44,000 --> 02:41:45,439
your worship

3982
02:41:45,439 --> 02:41:47,200
and thank you

3983
02:41:47,200 --> 02:41:49,279
council

3984
02:41:49,279 --> 02:41:51,439
and do we have any comments or questions

3985
02:41:51,439 --> 02:41:56,630
with regards to this report

3986
02:41:56,640 --> 02:41:59,920
seeing none right does anyone want to

3987
02:41:59,920 --> 02:42:04,550
make the motion

3988
02:42:04,560 --> 02:42:07,520
deputy go ahead

3989
02:42:07,520 --> 02:42:08,720
move to receive and adopt the

3990
02:42:08,720 --> 02:42:11,279
recommendation item two

3991
02:42:11,279 --> 02:42:12,640
item two

3992
02:42:12,640 --> 02:42:13,760
thank you

3993
02:42:13,760 --> 02:42:20,469
do i have a seconder for that

3994
02:42:20,479 --> 02:42:23,120
oh counselor gordon thank you

3995
02:42:23,120 --> 02:42:24,240
all right

3996
02:42:24,240 --> 02:42:27,520
move or comment just with the uh

3997
02:42:27,520 --> 02:42:29,279
with with the partnering with the county

3998
02:42:29,279 --> 02:42:31,120
moving forward i think it'll be really

3999
02:42:31,120 --> 02:42:33,120
good for us to finish that process then

4000
02:42:33,120 --> 02:42:34,399
we'll be able to move forward if we do

4001
02:42:34,399 --> 02:42:36,399
need additional staffing or whatever it

4002
02:42:36,399 --> 02:42:39,680
is required or whatever scope of uh

4003
02:42:39,680 --> 02:42:40,720
work for

4004
02:42:40,720 --> 02:42:42,640
additional staff or current staff that

4005
02:42:42,640 --> 02:42:44,160
can all be determined once we have a

4006
02:42:44,160 --> 02:42:46,479
good process in place

4007
02:42:46,479 --> 02:42:48,880
you seconder comment

4008
02:42:48,880 --> 02:42:53,110
no anyone else have comment

4009
02:42:53,120 --> 02:42:55,359
i'm seeing none i'll call the question

4010
02:42:55,359 --> 02:42:58,399
all those in favor please raise a hand

4011
02:42:58,399 --> 02:43:01,840
and he opposed motion is carried

4012
02:43:01,840 --> 02:43:06,160
we go to 16.3 request for road closing

4013
02:43:06,160 --> 02:43:08,160
and uh i'm not gonna get into the

4014
02:43:08,160 --> 02:43:10,479
details there we have the report before

4015
02:43:10,479 --> 02:43:12,640
us

4016
02:43:12,640 --> 02:43:14,560
and we have ms merritt

4017
02:43:14,560 --> 02:43:17,040
do you have a comment to make

4018
02:43:17,040 --> 02:43:19,359
uh no no further comment to make your

4019
02:43:19,359 --> 02:43:22,710
worship

4020
02:43:22,720 --> 02:43:26,469
council do we have questions

4021
02:43:26,479 --> 02:43:32,469
counselor budaric go ahead

4022
02:43:32,479 --> 02:43:33,680
counselor bootrick did you have a

4023
02:43:33,680 --> 02:43:34,640
question

4024
02:43:34,640 --> 02:43:36,399
yeah i was just trying to meet my uh my

4025
02:43:36,399 --> 02:43:39,200
apologies your worship um

4026
02:43:39,200 --> 02:43:41,279
just a quick question on the option

4027
02:43:41,279 --> 02:43:42,960
number three i know it's probably

4028
02:43:42,960 --> 02:43:46,240
further down in the uh report and uh and

4029
02:43:46,240 --> 02:43:48,960
i get that i read down to where it was

4030
02:43:48,960 --> 02:43:51,040
but i was just curious to the uh

4031
02:43:51,040 --> 02:43:54,160
reasoning from staff as why option three

4032
02:43:54,160 --> 02:43:57,200
would be included in the recommendations

4033
02:43:57,200 --> 02:43:59,760
um that the the one resident would not

4034
02:43:59,760 --> 02:44:02,160
be allowed to purchase the property

4035
02:44:02,160 --> 02:44:04,319
um just a little more rational than

4036
02:44:04,319 --> 02:44:07,680
what's actually in writing that's all

4037
02:44:07,680 --> 02:44:09,279
thank you ms merritt

4038
02:44:09,279 --> 02:44:11,439
so through your worship actually uh

4039
02:44:11,439 --> 02:44:13,600
because this is a technical planning

4040
02:44:13,600 --> 02:44:16,160
question very good question by the way

4041
02:44:16,160 --> 02:44:18,479
i'm gonna defer to i'm going to let our

4042
02:44:18,479 --> 02:44:21,120
planning staff respond

4043
02:44:21,120 --> 02:44:23,600
and i see him as both miss furnace and

4044
02:44:23,600 --> 02:44:25,760
mr casemore in the audience who wants to

4045
02:44:25,760 --> 02:44:28,870
take it thank you maddie

4046
02:44:28,880 --> 02:44:30,479
sorry

4047
02:44:30,479 --> 02:44:31,680
kessler parks

4048
02:44:31,680 --> 02:44:34,800
oh sorry sorry

4049
02:44:34,800 --> 02:44:37,760
okay i'll go to miss furnace

4050
02:44:37,760 --> 02:44:40,319
yes uh through you mr mayor um

4051
02:44:40,319 --> 02:44:42,880
so yeah essentially our road closing

4052
02:44:42,880 --> 02:44:45,600
policy um currently right now which is

4053
02:44:45,600 --> 02:44:47,680
outdated and doesn't comply with like

4054
02:44:47,680 --> 02:44:50,720
current municipal act requirements um it

4055
02:44:50,720 --> 02:44:53,120
does require the township to

4056
02:44:53,120 --> 02:44:55,040
you know advise the any adjacent

4057
02:44:55,040 --> 02:44:56,640
property owners to a road allowance

4058
02:44:56,640 --> 02:44:58,399
that's going to be closed in order to

4059
02:44:58,399 --> 02:45:00,560
make them aware so if they are

4060
02:45:00,560 --> 02:45:02,240
interested then they they could make

4061
02:45:02,240 --> 02:45:04,240
potentially their own applications so in

4062
02:45:04,240 --> 02:45:05,840
this case we have received an

4063
02:45:05,840 --> 02:45:08,160
application from the property owner on

4064
02:45:08,160 --> 02:45:12,319
bath road um the rationale for staff not

4065
02:45:12,319 --> 02:45:15,359
recommending that that portion um be

4066
02:45:15,359 --> 02:45:17,600
sold to that property owner is because

4067
02:45:17,600 --> 02:45:18,880
the entire

4068
02:45:18,880 --> 02:45:20,720
um the entire

4069
02:45:20,720 --> 02:45:23,120
area there is designated industrial in

4070
02:45:23,120 --> 02:45:25,120
the official plan and it's also zoned

4071
02:45:25,120 --> 02:45:27,760
general industrial um

4072
02:45:27,760 --> 02:45:30,319
including the residential property um so

4073
02:45:30,319 --> 02:45:32,160
essentially when we're reviewing the

4074
02:45:32,160 --> 02:45:35,439
selling of township property um we're we

4075
02:45:35,439 --> 02:45:36,960
are recommending it be given to the

4076
02:45:36,960 --> 02:45:39,040
other property owner the entire piece

4077
02:45:39,040 --> 02:45:41,680
and that um the other land holding isn't

4078
02:45:41,680 --> 02:45:43,600
is also an industrial property and it's

4079
02:45:43,600 --> 02:45:45,760
proposing industrial uses

4080
02:45:45,760 --> 02:45:46,640
um

4081
02:45:46,640 --> 02:45:48,479
the other property is a residential

4082
02:45:48,479 --> 02:45:50,000
property so it's it's a legal

4083
02:45:50,000 --> 02:45:53,520
non-conforming use um our official plan

4084
02:45:53,520 --> 02:45:55,840
speaks to any land use that doesn't

4085
02:45:55,840 --> 02:45:58,479
conform to land use designations in in

4086
02:45:58,479 --> 02:46:01,279
the official plan um in general should

4087
02:46:01,279 --> 02:46:04,080
cease to exist over over time in the in

4088
02:46:04,080 --> 02:46:06,960
the long term um however in special

4089
02:46:06,960 --> 02:46:10,000
circumstances we can consider extension

4090
02:46:10,000 --> 02:46:12,240
extending or enlarging these types of

4091
02:46:12,240 --> 02:46:15,600
properties um specifically said to avoid

4092
02:46:15,600 --> 02:46:18,800
unnecessary hardship um so where these

4093
02:46:18,800 --> 02:46:20,640
have kind of typically been considered

4094
02:46:20,640 --> 02:46:22,720
is for example if

4095
02:46:22,720 --> 02:46:25,359
if a well is straddling lot lines

4096
02:46:25,359 --> 02:46:27,439
or where we mostly see these is if

4097
02:46:27,439 --> 02:46:28,960
someone has a legal non-conforming

4098
02:46:28,960 --> 02:46:31,439
residential structure and they want to

4099
02:46:31,439 --> 02:46:34,080
expand um you know have an accessory

4100
02:46:34,080 --> 02:46:35,760
structure because they want to detach

4101
02:46:35,760 --> 02:46:37,520
garage on it then you know we could

4102
02:46:37,520 --> 02:46:39,680
entertain expanding the use that way but

4103
02:46:39,680 --> 02:46:42,800
but typically not entertaining um

4104
02:46:42,800 --> 02:46:44,880
expanding a residential property in an

4105
02:46:44,880 --> 02:46:47,040
industrial area due to the conflicting

4106
02:46:47,040 --> 02:46:50,000
land uses um so that's um the other

4107
02:46:50,000 --> 02:46:52,399
thing to note as well is it wouldn't be

4108
02:46:52,399 --> 02:46:55,200
permitted as of right so if council did

4109
02:46:55,200 --> 02:46:57,279
choose to to want to

4110
02:46:57,279 --> 02:46:59,520
proceed with offering on that portion of

4111
02:46:59,520 --> 02:47:01,359
the road allowance um to this property

4112
02:47:01,359 --> 02:47:02,880
owner it would have to be contingent

4113
02:47:02,880 --> 02:47:04,399
upon getting committee of adjustment

4114
02:47:04,399 --> 02:47:06,560
approval as a planning act application

4115
02:47:06,560 --> 02:47:08,640
is required to enlarge

4116
02:47:08,640 --> 02:47:12,550
a non-conforming use

4117
02:47:12,560 --> 02:47:15,120
to provide your answer cancer booner

4118
02:47:15,120 --> 02:47:17,040
it was fantastic answer thank you very

4119
02:47:17,040 --> 02:47:19,040
much thank you

4120
02:47:19,040 --> 02:47:21,040
any other questions with regard to this

4121
02:47:21,040 --> 02:47:24,230
report

4122
02:47:24,240 --> 02:47:26,640
i'm seeing no further questions do i

4123
02:47:26,640 --> 02:47:29,200
have a mover

4124
02:47:29,200 --> 02:47:31,920
we have a recommendation with uh

4125
02:47:31,920 --> 02:47:37,190
four parts

4126
02:47:37,200 --> 02:47:41,190
anyone

4127
02:47:41,200 --> 02:47:44,550
counselor bootrick go ahead

4128
02:47:44,560 --> 02:47:46,880
um i would uh with that great

4129
02:47:46,880 --> 02:47:49,520
explanation except the recommendations

4130
02:47:49,520 --> 02:47:51,439
so one through four

4131
02:47:51,439 --> 02:47:52,479
thank you

4132
02:47:52,479 --> 02:47:56,240
and so moved do i have a seconder

4133
02:47:56,240 --> 02:47:59,200
counselor gordon thank you

4134
02:47:59,200 --> 02:48:00,640
any comments from the mover and

4135
02:48:00,640 --> 02:48:03,040
secondary

4136
02:48:03,040 --> 02:48:07,030
anyone else have comment

4137
02:48:07,040 --> 02:48:09,359
seeing none i will call the question all

4138
02:48:09,359 --> 02:48:13,670
those in favor please raise a hand

4139
02:48:13,680 --> 02:48:14,840
and he

4140
02:48:14,840 --> 02:48:18,399
opposed motion is carried

4141
02:48:18,399 --> 02:48:21,200
we move forward we get to

4142
02:48:21,200 --> 02:48:23,040
something under emergency

4143
02:48:23,040 --> 02:48:25,600
notices of motion or direct motion is

4144
02:48:25,600 --> 02:48:27,120
there anyone on council that wishes to

4145
02:48:27,120 --> 02:48:29,680
put forward a notice of motion or

4146
02:48:29,680 --> 02:48:34,150
request a direct motion

4147
02:48:34,160 --> 02:48:38,080
i'm seeing no such new hands

4148
02:48:38,080 --> 02:48:40,479
so we come to the consent agenda for the

4149
02:48:40,479 --> 02:48:41,680
purpose of convenience and for

4150
02:48:41,680 --> 02:48:43,359
expediting meetings matters of business

4151
02:48:43,359 --> 02:48:45,279
that are repetitive or routine in nature

4152
02:48:45,279 --> 02:48:47,920
included in the consent agenda and all

4153
02:48:47,920 --> 02:48:49,680
such matters

4154
02:48:49,680 --> 02:48:51,359
of business contained in the consent

4155
02:48:51,359 --> 02:48:53,600
agenda are voted on collectively a

4156
02:48:53,600 --> 02:48:55,040
particular matter of business may be

4157
02:48:55,040 --> 02:48:56,800
singled out from the consent agenda for

4158
02:48:56,800 --> 02:48:58,880
debate or for separate vote upon the

4159
02:48:58,880 --> 02:49:01,040
request of any member of council

4160
02:49:01,040 --> 02:49:02,479
in the case of a separate vote the

4161
02:49:02,479 --> 02:49:04,240
excluded matter of business is severed

4162
02:49:04,240 --> 02:49:06,399
from the consent agenda each and every

4163
02:49:06,399 --> 02:49:08,080
matter of business contained in the

4164
02:49:08,080 --> 02:49:10,240
consent agenda is recorded separately in

4165
02:49:10,240 --> 02:49:12,160
the minutes of the meeting is there

4166
02:49:12,160 --> 02:49:14,000
anything that any member of council

4167
02:49:14,000 --> 02:49:16,240
wishes to extract from the consent

4168
02:49:16,240 --> 02:49:19,349
agenda

4169
02:49:19,359 --> 02:49:22,389
deputy go ahead

4170
02:49:22,399 --> 02:49:25,359
item 23.3 the province-wide property

4171
02:49:25,359 --> 02:49:27,399
assessment update postponement

4172
02:49:27,399 --> 02:49:29,279
23.3

4173
02:49:29,279 --> 02:49:31,279
anything else that anyone wishes to

4174
02:49:31,279 --> 02:49:34,309
separate

4175
02:49:34,319 --> 02:49:35,760
deputy eric councillor guard my

4176
02:49:35,760 --> 02:49:40,150
counselor town sorry

4177
02:49:40,160 --> 02:49:41,319
uh

4178
02:49:41,319 --> 02:49:45,920
22.4 your worship

4179
02:49:45,920 --> 02:49:50,950
okay anything else from anyone

4180
02:49:50,960 --> 02:49:52,840
i'm seeing no further

4181
02:49:52,840 --> 02:49:55,200
extractions and i'll ask for a motion on

4182
02:49:55,200 --> 02:49:56,640
the consent agenda without the

4183
02:49:56,640 --> 02:50:00,790
extractions

4184
02:50:00,800 --> 02:50:02,720
go to the deputy and counselor town and

4185
02:50:02,720 --> 02:50:03,840
seconding

4186
02:50:03,840 --> 02:50:06,800
and anything further any comments

4187
02:50:06,800 --> 02:50:08,399
i'll call the question on the consent

4188
02:50:08,399 --> 02:50:10,880
agenda all those in favor please raise a

4189
02:50:10,880 --> 02:50:13,269
hand

4190
02:50:13,279 --> 02:50:15,920
and the opposed motion is carried

4191
02:50:15,920 --> 02:50:19,840
we move to 22.4

4192
02:50:19,840 --> 02:50:22,399
which is the renewable energy fund grant

4193
02:50:22,399 --> 02:50:24,960
review committee applications

4194
02:50:24,960 --> 02:50:26,560
council 10 and you ask for that to be

4195
02:50:26,560 --> 02:50:28,160
separated

4196
02:50:28,160 --> 02:50:30,880
yes thank you worship i just have um a

4197
02:50:30,880 --> 02:50:32,800
question uh

4198
02:50:32,800 --> 02:50:36,319
to the author in the report

4199
02:50:36,319 --> 02:50:37,680
it says

4200
02:50:37,680 --> 02:50:39,439
applications for the first funding

4201
02:50:39,439 --> 02:50:41,200
period of the renewable energy fund

4202
02:50:41,200 --> 02:50:44,720
grant will be available january 3rd 2022

4203
02:50:44,720 --> 02:50:49,600
and due no later than february 1st 2022

4204
02:50:49,600 --> 02:50:52,720
elsewhere in the report it indicated

4205
02:50:52,720 --> 02:50:54,240
that there

4206
02:50:54,240 --> 02:50:57,279
had only been one application for the

4207
02:50:57,279 --> 02:51:00,319
subcommittee for awards two and three

4208
02:51:00,319 --> 02:51:02,439
uh and that uh it was going to be

4209
02:51:02,439 --> 02:51:05,439
re-advertised so am i to understand

4210
02:51:05,439 --> 02:51:06,720
based on the beginning of the

4211
02:51:06,720 --> 02:51:09,359
application period in january

4212
02:51:09,359 --> 02:51:12,960
that the applications will will be

4213
02:51:12,960 --> 02:51:16,319
received and sort of essentially put

4214
02:51:16,319 --> 02:51:20,160
on hold until uh until that subcommittee

4215
02:51:20,160 --> 02:51:22,399
hopefully gets members that apply uh is

4216
02:51:22,399 --> 02:51:24,960
that the correct understanding

4217
02:51:24,960 --> 02:51:27,920
to the clerk uh through your worship uh

4218
02:51:27,920 --> 02:51:29,359
yes so

4219
02:51:29,359 --> 02:51:31,760
basically we have enough applications in

4220
02:51:31,760 --> 02:51:32,640
for

4221
02:51:32,640 --> 02:51:36,319
the award one uh committee subcommittee

4222
02:51:36,319 --> 02:51:38,279
uh what we'll be doing is just

4223
02:51:38,279 --> 02:51:44,830
re-advertising for award two uh three um

4224
02:51:44,840 --> 02:51:48,319
um for the for the subcommittee uh we

4225
02:51:48,319 --> 02:51:50,479
will be still proceeding with

4226
02:51:50,479 --> 02:51:52,399
advertising again for the community

4227
02:51:52,399 --> 02:51:56,640
grants uh we believe uh by the tie-in um

4228
02:51:56,640 --> 02:51:58,319
from when the applications are done

4229
02:51:58,319 --> 02:52:00,080
we'll be still proceeding through that

4230
02:52:00,080 --> 02:52:02,399
with a closed session report with the

4231
02:52:02,399 --> 02:52:04,880
applications going to council on

4232
02:52:04,880 --> 02:52:08,319
december 13th hopefully we will

4233
02:52:08,319 --> 02:52:10,399
get at least the minimum amount if not

4234
02:52:10,399 --> 02:52:12,399
more for the other subcommittee that

4235
02:52:12,399 --> 02:52:13,359
will go

4236
02:52:13,359 --> 02:52:15,680
uh my understanding would be or the

4237
02:52:15,680 --> 02:52:18,319
proposal would be if we don't we would

4238
02:52:18,319 --> 02:52:21,279
still proceed with the uh the committee

4239
02:52:21,279 --> 02:52:23,279
that has enough and then it would be a

4240
02:52:23,279 --> 02:52:25,520
direction from council on how they want

4241
02:52:25,520 --> 02:52:28,000
to proceed if we don't receive enough uh

4242
02:52:28,000 --> 02:52:30,479
the applications for the grant would be

4243
02:52:30,479 --> 02:52:33,600
coming in uh by the end um

4244
02:52:33,600 --> 02:52:35,520
sorry by february first of the end of

4245
02:52:35,520 --> 02:52:38,000
january and then they would be going to

4246
02:52:38,000 --> 02:52:40,240
the subcommittee they'd be in play by

4247
02:52:40,240 --> 02:52:43,279
then uh to do their review and coming to

4248
02:52:43,279 --> 02:52:46,240
council for recommendations

4249
02:52:46,240 --> 02:52:48,790
okay

4250
02:52:48,800 --> 02:52:50,880
yes your worship i'm prepared to make a

4251
02:52:50,880 --> 02:52:52,160
motion to

4252
02:52:52,160 --> 02:52:53,680
did anyone else have a question with

4253
02:52:53,680 --> 02:52:56,960
regard to that report

4254
02:52:56,960 --> 02:52:58,720
saying none counselor town and go ahead

4255
02:52:58,720 --> 02:52:59,920
with your motion

4256
02:52:59,920 --> 02:53:02,319
i move to receive for information

4257
02:53:02,319 --> 02:53:04,000
motion to receive for information do i

4258
02:53:04,000 --> 02:53:06,319
have a seconder

4259
02:53:06,319 --> 02:53:08,479
counselor broderick thank you

4260
02:53:08,479 --> 02:53:11,359
any comments

4261
02:53:11,359 --> 02:53:13,600
seeing none from anyone i'll call the

4262
02:53:13,600 --> 02:53:16,640
question on 22.4 all those in favor

4263
02:53:16,640 --> 02:53:18,240
please raise a hand

4264
02:53:18,240 --> 02:53:21,920
any opposed motion is carried we move to

4265
02:53:21,920 --> 02:53:25,750
23.3

4266
02:53:25,760 --> 02:53:28,479
property assessment update postponement

4267
02:53:28,479 --> 02:53:29,920
and the deputy asked for this to be

4268
02:53:29,920 --> 02:53:32,399
separated go ahead sir yes i'm prepared

4269
02:53:32,399 --> 02:53:34,000
to make a motion to

4270
02:53:34,000 --> 02:53:36,080
receive and support

4271
02:53:36,080 --> 02:53:38,640
motion to receive and support and do i

4272
02:53:38,640 --> 02:53:41,990
have a secondary for that

4273
02:53:42,000 --> 02:53:44,160
counselor gordon thank you deputy would

4274
02:53:44,160 --> 02:53:46,080
you like to make comment yeah this is

4275
02:53:46,080 --> 02:53:47,279
just uh

4276
02:53:47,279 --> 02:53:49,920
this is bothersome for me that uh

4277
02:53:49,920 --> 02:53:52,000
it's just extended for an extra two

4278
02:53:52,000 --> 02:53:53,840
years with really no explanation that

4279
02:53:53,840 --> 02:53:56,080
the property assessments aren't going to

4280
02:53:56,080 --> 02:53:58,000
be updated um

4281
02:53:58,000 --> 02:53:59,120
it's going to make it that we're going

4282
02:53:59,120 --> 02:54:00,560
to be working on

4283
02:54:00,560 --> 02:54:03,120
valuations that are 8 years old

4284
02:54:03,120 --> 02:54:05,279
which i realize as far as us setting a

4285
02:54:05,279 --> 02:54:06,720
budget

4286
02:54:06,720 --> 02:54:09,200
we we base we base our budgets on

4287
02:54:09,200 --> 02:54:11,520
whatever we're provided with so that's

4288
02:54:11,520 --> 02:54:12,880
all we can work with and we're that's

4289
02:54:12,880 --> 02:54:14,240
defendable

4290
02:54:14,240 --> 02:54:15,760
but um

4291
02:54:15,760 --> 02:54:18,880
any potential impacts to residents is

4292
02:54:18,880 --> 02:54:20,479
going to be compounded by the extended

4293
02:54:20,479 --> 02:54:22,240
period of time

4294
02:54:22,240 --> 02:54:23,359
i don't want to get back to the point

4295
02:54:23,359 --> 02:54:24,720
where we're basically working with mill

4296
02:54:24,720 --> 02:54:27,359
rates i'd like to stay current and be

4297
02:54:27,359 --> 02:54:29,520
able to defend

4298
02:54:29,520 --> 02:54:31,760
our actions by saying that we are

4299
02:54:31,760 --> 02:54:34,560
dealing with current assessment values

4300
02:54:34,560 --> 02:54:36,960
provincially as provided by the province

4301
02:54:36,960 --> 02:54:38,960
and right now by the end of eight years

4302
02:54:38,960 --> 02:54:40,240
that statement

4303
02:54:40,240 --> 02:54:41,600
isn't really going to be able to be made

4304
02:54:41,600 --> 02:54:43,680
anymore so if there's properties that

4305
02:54:43,680 --> 02:54:46,560
have escalated in price and when it

4306
02:54:46,560 --> 02:54:48,800
finally is evaluated um there's going to

4307
02:54:48,800 --> 02:54:50,000
be some residents that are going to be

4308
02:54:50,000 --> 02:54:51,920
very unhappy

4309
02:54:51,920 --> 02:54:53,520
and i just i'd like to see it taken care

4310
02:54:53,520 --> 02:54:55,359
of before then

4311
02:54:55,359 --> 02:54:56,560
thank you

4312
02:54:56,560 --> 02:54:59,439
so i can turn the other comment

4313
02:54:59,439 --> 02:55:03,520
no anyone else have comment

4314
02:55:03,520 --> 02:55:05,279
seeing no further comment the motion is

4315
02:55:05,279 --> 02:55:07,359
to receive and support

4316
02:55:07,359 --> 02:55:09,120
i will call the question all those in

4317
02:55:09,120 --> 02:55:11,920
favor please raise a hand

4318
02:55:11,920 --> 02:55:13,279
any opposed

4319
02:55:13,279 --> 02:55:14,960
motion is carried

4320
02:55:14,960 --> 02:55:16,560
thank you thank you both for pulling

4321
02:55:16,560 --> 02:55:17,520
those out

4322
02:55:17,520 --> 02:55:20,720
let me move forward to

4323
02:55:20,720 --> 02:55:22,720
new business updates from members

4324
02:55:22,720 --> 02:55:24,640
appointed to county council committees

4325
02:55:24,640 --> 02:55:26,800
and their local boards is there anything

4326
02:55:26,800 --> 02:55:28,960
that any member of council wishes to

4327
02:55:28,960 --> 02:55:31,040
bring forward from one of their

4328
02:55:31,040 --> 02:55:35,269
appointed board committees

4329
02:55:35,279 --> 02:55:37,680
deputy go ahead

4330
02:55:37,680 --> 02:55:39,520
if i may um

4331
02:55:39,520 --> 02:55:41,279
i i attended

4332
02:55:41,279 --> 02:55:42,960
this i actually attended on behalf of

4333
02:55:42,960 --> 02:55:45,520
the county but i represented the county

4334
02:55:45,520 --> 02:55:46,800
from the township so i'm going to bring

4335
02:55:46,800 --> 02:55:48,560
it here as well because it it relates to

4336
02:55:48,560 --> 02:55:51,200
our municipality i did a tour of the

4337
02:55:51,200 --> 02:55:53,359
lafarge plant um

4338
02:55:53,359 --> 02:55:55,120
with uh with some of the lafarge

4339
02:55:55,120 --> 02:55:58,319
representatives from the committee um

4340
02:55:58,319 --> 02:56:00,560
that we also have counselor parks sits

4341
02:56:00,560 --> 02:56:03,600
on the committee as well and uh

4342
02:56:03,600 --> 02:56:05,040
it was really impressive to see the

4343
02:56:05,040 --> 02:56:07,840
amount of energy the money

4344
02:56:07,840 --> 02:56:10,319
that's gone into that uh facility

4345
02:56:10,319 --> 02:56:12,000
and

4346
02:56:12,000 --> 02:56:14,000
for the betterment of our residents but

4347
02:56:14,000 --> 02:56:15,120
also for the betterment of the

4348
02:56:15,120 --> 02:56:16,720
environment some of the things that

4349
02:56:16,720 --> 02:56:18,560
they've brought into place they're

4350
02:56:18,560 --> 02:56:20,560
they're making use of uh material that

4351
02:56:20,560 --> 02:56:22,960
would otherwise be in landfill

4352
02:56:22,960 --> 02:56:27,359
um and making it a a viable fuel option

4353
02:56:27,359 --> 02:56:30,800
and also using um ammonia to be able to

4354
02:56:30,800 --> 02:56:32,399
basically reduce the greenhouse gas

4355
02:56:32,399 --> 02:56:33,520
emissions

4356
02:56:33,520 --> 02:56:34,720
um

4357
02:56:34,720 --> 02:56:35,760
then

4358
02:56:35,760 --> 02:56:37,680
instead of putting out gases you're

4359
02:56:37,680 --> 02:56:40,319
basically putting out moisture and to

4360
02:56:40,319 --> 02:56:42,479
see the technology in place it's pretty

4361
02:56:42,479 --> 02:56:44,479
uh for me with my background in

4362
02:56:44,479 --> 02:56:46,800
engineering i mean

4363
02:56:46,800 --> 02:56:49,040
i love it that's my thing is to to try

4364
02:56:49,040 --> 02:56:50,960
and figure out how this stuff works and

4365
02:56:50,960 --> 02:56:52,479
and be able to look at it

4366
02:56:52,479 --> 02:56:55,279
that way so um it's not completed yet

4367
02:56:55,279 --> 02:56:57,680
it's going to be going on for at least

4368
02:56:57,680 --> 02:56:59,680
one more year because as the remainder

4369
02:56:59,680 --> 02:57:02,560
has been done during shutdown um

4370
02:57:02,560 --> 02:57:04,720
but uh they've put millions and millions

4371
02:57:04,720 --> 02:57:07,040
of dollars into this and uh

4372
02:57:07,040 --> 02:57:08,800
it's it's it's better for everyone when

4373
02:57:08,800 --> 02:57:09,920
it's the environment and it's good for

4374
02:57:09,920 --> 02:57:13,120
our township when it helps our residents

4375
02:57:13,120 --> 02:57:14,960
thank you for bringing that forward

4376
02:57:14,960 --> 02:57:16,960
is there anything else anyone wishes to

4377
02:57:16,960 --> 02:57:19,120
bring forward from their committees or

4378
02:57:19,120 --> 02:57:22,160
local boards

4379
02:57:22,160 --> 02:57:24,240
i'm seeing none

4380
02:57:24,240 --> 02:57:25,120
and

4381
02:57:25,120 --> 02:57:26,399
we move to

4382
02:57:26,399 --> 02:57:28,160
members privilege is there anything that

4383
02:57:28,160 --> 02:57:29,520
we would like to bring forward under

4384
02:57:29,520 --> 02:57:33,750
members privilege

4385
02:57:33,760 --> 02:57:35,279
council

4386
02:57:35,279 --> 02:57:36,720
none

4387
02:57:36,720 --> 02:57:38,800
okay then we move to the confirmatory

4388
02:57:38,800 --> 02:57:41,200
bylaw

4389
02:57:41,200 --> 02:57:44,319
anyone wish to make that motion

4390
02:57:44,319 --> 02:57:46,000
i'll take councillor buderick and the

4391
02:57:46,000 --> 02:57:47,120
deputy

4392
02:57:47,120 --> 02:57:48,960
any comment

4393
02:57:48,960 --> 02:57:51,040
call the question all those in favor

4394
02:57:51,040 --> 02:57:53,040
please raise a hand

4395
02:57:53,040 --> 02:57:55,040
any opposed

4396
02:57:55,040 --> 02:57:57,359
motion is carried

4397
02:57:57,359 --> 02:57:58,399
okay

4398
02:57:58,399 --> 02:58:00,240
upcoming meeting dates on december the

4399
02:58:00,240 --> 02:58:02,000
6th we are scheduled for committee the

4400
02:58:02,000 --> 02:58:04,000
adjustment and community of the whole

4401
02:58:04,000 --> 02:58:05,040
budget

4402
02:58:05,040 --> 02:58:06,880
december the 9th we will have another

4403
02:58:06,880 --> 02:58:08,720
community of the whole budget

4404
02:58:08,720 --> 02:58:10,880
for a council meeting on december the

4405
02:58:10,880 --> 02:58:12,319
13th

4406
02:58:12,319 --> 02:58:13,840
are there any other meetings to make

4407
02:58:13,840 --> 02:58:17,349
note of

4408
02:58:17,359 --> 02:58:19,200
i see none

4409
02:58:19,200 --> 02:58:20,800
and we will call and then i will call

4410
02:58:20,800 --> 02:58:24,550
for a motion to adjourn

4411
02:58:24,560 --> 02:58:26,640
counselor budaric so move counselor town

4412
02:58:26,640 --> 02:58:28,240
in seconds

4413
02:58:28,240 --> 02:58:29,840
any comment

4414
02:58:29,840 --> 02:58:31,279
i'll call the question all those in

4415
02:58:31,279 --> 02:58:33,200
favor please raise a hand

4416
02:58:33,200 --> 02:58:35,920
and the opposed motion is carried we are

4417
02:58:35,920 --> 02:58:38,000
adjourned and we did get it in before 10

4418
02:58:38,000 --> 02:58:39,680
o'clock we didn't have to make that

4419
02:58:39,680 --> 02:58:41,920
special motion have a great evening

4420
02:58:41,920 --> 02:58:43,600
folks i thank you all for sticking with

4421
02:58:43,600 --> 02:58:46,000
it and to our audience we appreciate

4422
02:58:46,000 --> 02:58:48,240
your attendance as well and have a great

4423
02:58:48,240 --> 02:58:52,920
evening and the rest of your week