1 00:00:07,660 --> 00:00:19,880 Charles, quorum, Richard Scherz, and welcome, Kurt, and also welcome, Chris Bierman. So, we have a quorum 2 00:00:20,500 --> 00:00:26,760 and if everyone can turn their phones off, we will stand and say the pledge of allegiance. 3 00:00:43,850 --> 00:00:44,730 Okay. 4 00:00:50,020 --> 00:00:59,520 The applicant Taylor Waters has requested a variance from the literal enforcement of the zoning ordinance section 3.19.2000. 5 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:16,080 I mean, 002, residential agricultural and estate districts, which provides that fencing located within the required front side and rear setbacks, the minimum 50% see-through and to allow a board on board privacy fence within the side yard setbacks. 6 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:23,560 hearings on the requested variances are held before the board in accordance with the Texas local government code section 211.09. 7 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:31,000 A variance is an adjustment in the application of the specific regulations of the zoning ordinance to a particular parcel of property which 8 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:44,080 because of special conditions or circumstances of hardship, peculiar to a particular parcel is necessary to prevent the property from being deprived of rights and privileges enjoyed by other parcels in the same vicinity and zoning district. 9 00:01:44,080 --> 00:02:07,360 The board will not grant a variance to relieve a self-created or personal hardship solely based on economic gain or loss to permit any person a privilege in developing the property that is not available to other property owners in the zoning district to allow use of the property that is not allowed in the zoning district or if granting the variance would result in an undue hardship to another property in the zoning district. 10 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:11,740 Only people recognized by me and duly sworn in may address the board. 11 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:15,700 Speakers shall move to the podium when directed, state their name and address, 12 00:02:16,220 --> 00:02:18,780 and then present their evidence or make their argument. 13 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:24,380 The board may ask questions of any speaker, including city staff during the public hearing. 14 00:02:25,060 --> 00:02:30,620 Members of the public who do not have direct interest in the property will have three minutes to make a public comment. 15 00:02:30,620 --> 00:02:36,380 The public may not ask questions of the board, city, staff, or the applicant. 16 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:43,420 So it is now 6.32 and at this time I open the public hearing for Taylor Waters 17 00:02:43,420 --> 00:02:48,160 request for a variance for the property located at 23 Cedar Bend Trail, Lucas, Texas. 18 00:02:49,180 --> 00:02:54,120 I would ask that anybody who wants to speak, you would stand and raise your right hand and be sworn in. 19 00:02:57,300 --> 00:03:01,580 Do you solemnly swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you God. 20 00:03:01,580 --> 00:03:12,450 thank you be seated. Okay are there any attorneys present? All right at this time the City 21 00:03:12,450 --> 00:03:15,170 staff may proceed with this presentation of the staff report. 22 00:03:22,210 --> 00:03:24,030 Yes. Good evening board. 23 00:03:25,430 --> 00:03:33,650 So we have a fence variance request for 23 Cedar Bend Trail. So this is to allow a section 24 00:03:33,650 --> 00:03:36,390 a board on board fencing within a required setback. 25 00:03:36,670 --> 00:03:41,050 The variance is from the city code 3.19.002b, 26 00:03:41,290 --> 00:03:44,310 which requires fencing in the required front side 27 00:03:44,310 --> 00:03:48,150 and rear yard setbacks to be at least 50% see-through. 28 00:03:48,530 --> 00:03:51,570 The initial fence permit application proposed 29 00:03:51,570 --> 00:03:54,710 a six foot cedar board on board fence and was denied. 30 00:03:55,210 --> 00:03:57,670 Because a privacy fence must meet those setbacks. 31 00:03:58,250 --> 00:04:00,430 The applicant submitted an amended plan showing 32 00:04:00,430 --> 00:04:02,930 a see-through fence within the lower portion covered 33 00:04:02,930 --> 00:04:05,170 for animal protection, which would be approved. 34 00:04:06,030 --> 00:04:11,150 The permit fee was not paid and the permit has not been issued as of August 25th, 2026. 35 00:04:11,890 --> 00:04:16,130 A section of board on board fencing was constructed before permit issuance. 36 00:04:16,610 --> 00:04:21,950 And code enforcement has opened a case that and has sent certified mailings as to the applicant. 37 00:04:22,390 --> 00:04:27,310 This was initially delayed as the applicant just bought the home and calling cat had not updated the property information. 38 00:04:27,310 --> 00:04:35,700 As you see here, this is the reviewed site plan that identified the proposed fence segment 39 00:04:35,700 --> 00:04:40,260 and gates, but the site plan sheet itself does not show the fence material specifications. 40 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:50,460 So this was the updated amended permit application that stated that the fence would open with 41 00:04:50,460 --> 00:04:51,940 four inches between the pickets. 42 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:55,960 The bottom section would be covered up to three feet to protect the goats. 43 00:04:56,600 --> 00:05:00,560 The fence placement was described to be six, eight inches inside the property line. 44 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:04,920 And the specific specifications was separate from the reviewed site plan sheet. 45 00:05:07,740 --> 00:05:12,440 Here you can see the comments that the municipality made. 46 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:17,720 The reviewer said that they could not have a privacy fence at the property lines. 47 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:20,000 And that they needed to meet those setbacks. 48 00:05:20,380 --> 00:05:24,640 The applicant's response was that they would amend the file, would no longer be run board, 49 00:05:24,820 --> 00:05:25,780 and it would be see through. 50 00:05:26,420 --> 00:05:29,560 An invoice showed a $75 due and zero paid. 51 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:33,300 and the permit is not issued until those fees are paid. 52 00:05:35,530 --> 00:05:38,350 Here's the property location of 23 Cedar Bend Trail. 53 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:46,120 And then here is the fence and the goats marry Kate and 54 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:47,120 Ashley as you can see. 55 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:52,440 And the fence and question is that board on board fits on the southwest side of the property. 56 00:05:55,020 --> 00:05:59,820 So literal enforcement of the ordinance would not create an unnecessary hardship. 57 00:06:00,700 --> 00:06:03,220 The alleged hardship is self-imposed. 58 00:06:04,020 --> 00:06:09,300 The alleged difficulty does not affect most properties in the zoning, any properties in the zoning district. 59 00:06:09,780 --> 00:06:13,440 The relief sought would not injure the permitted use of adjacent conforming properties. 60 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:18,920 Granting the variance would not be in harmony with the spirit and purpose of the zoning ordinance. 61 00:06:19,420 --> 00:06:24,480 And the variance requested is, the variance requested is a newly built fence, and it's not on the tax rolls. 62 00:06:26,140 --> 00:06:26,900 Any questions? 63 00:06:26,900 --> 00:06:27,960 Just to 64 00:06:35,350 --> 00:06:41,390 clarify, the fence was actually built on the property, not the set-bat required set-backs. 65 00:06:41,870 --> 00:06:47,250 Correct. It was built on the property in my addition, it's a solid fence rather than 50%. 66 00:06:47,250 --> 00:06:55,570 So we've got two issues here. And in addition to, they were told they could not do that at the time 67 00:06:55,570 --> 00:07:01,310 of the permit. Is that correct? That was correct. The permit application, they were told during 68 00:07:01,310 --> 00:07:04,510 the application process that they could not have a board on board. 69 00:07:05,210 --> 00:07:09,470 Now a see-through privacy fence can meet the property line. 70 00:07:09,750 --> 00:07:13,290 However, a board on board privacy fence cannot. 71 00:07:13,650 --> 00:07:14,770 It must meet the setbacks. 72 00:07:21,250 --> 00:07:22,350 Anyone else have any questions? 73 00:07:27,830 --> 00:07:30,690 The board will now accept a presentation from the applicant. 74 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:55,140 All right. 75 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:59,800 Good evening and thank you all for giving us the opportunity to speak tonight. 76 00:08:00,420 --> 00:08:09,280 My name is Taylor Waters and this is my fiance Jordan Puddy and in three days my last name will also be Puddy because we're getting married on Saturday. 77 00:08:10,340 --> 00:08:19,040 Jordan and I purchased our home here in Lucas last month. We chose Lucas because we love the land, the community, the space and the lifestyle here. 78 00:08:19,940 --> 00:08:26,220 We are excited to make this our long term and hopefully forever home and hopefully raise our future children here. 79 00:08:26,940 --> 00:08:33,980 We hired a professional fence company to build a fence and to our knowledge our fence company filed a permit with the city. 80 00:08:34,300 --> 00:08:37,860 We believed we were going through the proper process when the fence was built. 81 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:44,640 And on a personal note, we're getting married three days from now, so this has been a pretty eventful first month of home ownership. 82 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:50,300 But these two right here were already part of our little family. 83 00:08:50,900 --> 00:08:55,140 this is Mary Kate and Ashley and they're really the reason that we're here 84 00:08:55,140 --> 00:09:00,160 tonight. We understand that the board has a difficult job. You have 85 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:05,380 ordinances that need to be applied fairly and consistently. You have to 86 00:09:05,380 --> 00:09:10,480 consider not just one homeowner but what is best for Lucas as a whole. You don't 87 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:14,300 want a green of variance that creates a safety problem negatively affects a 88 00:09:14,300 --> 00:09:19,200 neighbor or undermines the purpose of the ordinance and we respect that 89 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:24,620 responsibility. It may seem like we're here tonight asking you to make an exception for a 90 00:09:24,620 --> 00:09:31,100 privacy fence, but that's really not what we're asking. This isn't primarily a privacy fence. 91 00:09:31,420 --> 00:09:35,880 It's Mary Kate and Ashley's fence. It was built to safely contain our goats on our property. 92 00:09:36,660 --> 00:09:41,920 We have a responsibility of livestock owners to make sure that our animals are safely contained 93 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:46,560 and protected, and that's what we were trying to accomplish when we built this enclosure. 94 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:51,400 moving the fence 20 feet inward would take away a meaningful amount of their 95 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:57,080 usable enclosure. Changing it from the solid fence we selected to an open-style 96 00:09:57,080 --> 00:10:01,400 fence would also change the safety and containment features that we 97 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:03,060 specifically chose for our livestock. 98 00:10:05,100 --> 00:10:07,420 We are not aware of a traffic visibility 99 00:10:07,420 --> 00:10:12,220 problem created by the fence. We are also not aware of a drainage or utility 100 00:10:12,220 --> 00:10:17,220 problem created by it and most importantly the people who are actually affected by 101 00:10:17,220 --> 00:10:21,720 this fence being near their properties aren't asking the city to make us move it. 102 00:10:22,140 --> 00:10:26,680 It's actually the opposite. I believe that three plus of our neighbors have independently 103 00:10:26,680 --> 00:10:32,040 contacted the city in support of allowing this fence to remain. And that means a lot to us. 104 00:10:32,940 --> 00:10:37,620 Because we certainly don't want the use of our property to negatively affect the people around us. 105 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:41,800 Our neighbors don't believe that this fence is creating a problem for them. 106 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:48,200 Moving the feet 20 feet does, however, create a real consequence for us. 107 00:10:48,420 --> 00:10:50,200 It reduces the livestock area. 108 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:53,240 It requires a brand new fence to be moved or rebuilt. 109 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:55,920 It requires additional expenses and disruption. 110 00:10:56,580 --> 00:11:02,100 And most importantly, it makes the enclosure rebuilt specifically for our goats less useful for its intended purpose. 111 00:11:03,220 --> 00:11:07,900 We understand the expense alone is not a reason to grant a variant, so that's not our argument. 112 00:11:08,780 --> 00:11:15,000 Our question is whether imposing that hardship accomplishes something meaningful for the city and the surrounding property owners. 113 00:11:15,940 --> 00:11:19,120 One of the things that we love about Lucas is its character. 114 00:11:19,740 --> 00:11:26,660 There's space here, there's animals here, there are horses, goats, livestock, family and neighbors who appreciate this way of life. 115 00:11:27,620 --> 00:11:30,020 That's part of why we chose to make our home here. 116 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:37,000 And with the privilege of owning animals comes the responsibility to take good care of them and safely contain them. 117 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:38,980 And that's exactly what we're trying to do. 118 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:43,060 We're not asking the board to disregard the city's ordinance. 119 00:11:43,060 --> 00:11:48,020 We're asking you to use the variance process for an unusual circumstance where applying 120 00:11:48,020 --> 00:11:54,740 the ordinance literally creates a significant hardship without an identified corresponding benefit to the community. 121 00:11:56,020 --> 00:12:00,900 So we'd respectfully ask you to consider the specific fax in front of you tonight. 122 00:12:01,680 --> 00:12:06,820 This is a side yard fence being used to safely contain and protect livestock. 123 00:12:07,860 --> 00:12:13,180 Our fence company filed a permit with the city that we believed we were following the proper process. 124 00:12:14,300 --> 00:12:17,480 We have three neighbors who have taken the time to contact the city and 125 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:19,280 support of the fence remaining where it is. 126 00:12:19,680 --> 00:12:22,900 We're not aware of a safety traffic drainage utility, 127 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:25,600 reneburing property problem that moving the fence would correct. 128 00:12:26,540 --> 00:12:29,980 But moving at 20 feet back would significantly affect the livestock enclosure. 129 00:12:32,630 --> 00:12:37,010 Georgia and I are just beginning our life here. We're getting married in three days. 130 00:12:37,510 --> 00:12:41,210 We hope to raise our family here and we hope that Mary Kate and Ashley are just the 131 00:12:41,210 --> 00:12:43,890 beginning of the wonderful memories we're going to make on this property. 132 00:12:45,550 --> 00:12:50,910 These two are the reason that we built the fence. Our neighbors support it. We want to be responsible 133 00:12:50,910 --> 00:12:56,770 livestock owners and good neighbors. We respectfully ask you to allow the fence to remain where 134 00:12:56,770 --> 00:12:58,610 there it is. Thank you. 135 00:13:10,930 --> 00:13:12,910 Are there any other, I don't think there are any other public comments? 136 00:13:17,820 --> 00:13:27,200 Sure. She referenced three neighbors who contacted the city for support. Do we have any of those conversations 137 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:34,640 recorded or any notes of any sort? See the email. I'm not aware of any that's come through. Thank you. 138 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:40,600 They got the letter in the mail and they did email that email the day they got the letter. 139 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:42,680 Anyone else have any questions? 140 00:13:47,570 --> 00:13:47,870 All right. 141 00:13:49,250 --> 00:13:51,950 The comments have now been heard from all wishing to speak. 142 00:13:52,170 --> 00:13:54,790 I now close public hearing at 6.44. 143 00:13:55,530 --> 00:13:57,210 And the board will deliberate this matter. 144 00:14:00,500 --> 00:14:02,020 And welcome to Lucas, by the way. 145 00:14:08,100 --> 00:14:09,460 Does anyone have any comments? 146 00:14:18,140 --> 00:14:21,580 Comment contractor had to get permit. 147 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:24,860 And that permit would have specified 148 00:14:24,860 --> 00:14:32,600 why the characteristics allowed for offense on puzzledness toward the behavior. 149 00:14:32,620 --> 00:14:33,900 Richard, can you turn your mic on? 150 00:14:36,550 --> 00:14:37,950 I'll turn a little voice on it. 151 00:14:38,430 --> 00:14:39,870 Civil man with a... 152 00:14:39,870 --> 00:14:40,710 It'd be here. 153 00:14:40,930 --> 00:14:41,270 There you go. 154 00:14:41,470 --> 00:14:48,410 Puzzled this to why the contractor didn't let you know that they were needed to be a variance 155 00:14:48,410 --> 00:14:53,730 beforehand, or the characteristics that were allowed for that offense, that's puzzling 156 00:14:53,730 --> 00:14:54,090 to me. 157 00:14:54,090 --> 00:14:56,570 I can't answer that, obviously. 158 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:15,500 I think that's a question for the applicant to address. The contractor did not inform 159 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:26,520 me of any issues with the permitting. He just went along with the process, so I was completely out of the blue getting this message from the city. 160 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:42,480 My comments are, you know, the. There really is no room to give you a variance. 161 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:49,980 I'm sorry for that, and I think you have an issue with your contractor that I would 162 00:15:49,980 --> 00:15:50,940 certainly pursue it. 163 00:15:51,020 --> 00:15:55,340 And I hate that you're just moving to Lucas, and the first thing you have is a problem 164 00:15:55,340 --> 00:16:03,000 like this right before you get married, so I just don't see any way we can give it a variance, 165 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:07,820 given everything, that there's a violation of all these ordinances. 166 00:16:07,820 --> 00:16:09,860 I do have a question for our attorney. 167 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:16,180 We know that the fence is on the property line. 168 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:19,160 We know that it's a privacy fence. 169 00:16:20,060 --> 00:16:33,580 Are there any adjustments available to the 50% methodology being achieved and still be on 170 00:16:33,580 --> 00:16:34,540 the property line? 171 00:16:35,540 --> 00:16:36,220 Well, 172 00:16:40,060 --> 00:16:48,170 a variant spy, it's very nature, is a person requesting something that is not allowed. 173 00:16:48,870 --> 00:16:52,390 So the strict answer to your question is no. 174 00:16:53,270 --> 00:17:02,090 And that's why you've got that, the guidelines for granting a variant, and I have to throw 175 00:17:02,090 --> 00:17:03,310 it back into your lap. 176 00:17:03,610 --> 00:17:08,670 If it were 50 percent, would it be allowed on the property line? 177 00:17:08,670 --> 00:17:10,950 I don't believe so. 178 00:17:11,270 --> 00:17:15,550 If it were 50%, it would meet ordinance 179 00:17:15,550 --> 00:17:16,730 to be on the property line. 180 00:17:16,770 --> 00:17:18,530 In other words, every other board's gone, 181 00:17:18,710 --> 00:17:19,450 it's not an issue. 182 00:17:19,870 --> 00:17:20,130 Correct. 183 00:17:20,690 --> 00:17:23,350 Okay, that's what I wanted to thank you. 184 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:36,680 And I believe the design that's in your packet 185 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:41,740 would be approved at the property line. 186 00:17:42,300 --> 00:17:45,280 Yes, that amended was approved. 187 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:46,940 They just never paid for the permit. 188 00:17:46,940 --> 00:17:52,100 So if they went with what the amended plans were they would have had a permit for that 189 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:57,320 On the property line. On the property line. Okay. Thank you. You want to weigh in? 190 00:18:00,900 --> 00:18:04,200 I don't think there's anything that we can really do for her at this point 191 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:09,100 It does not conform to a hardship that's self-imposed 192 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:14,600 There's ways that they can do something differently, but that's not for us to decide 193 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:17,260 We can only decide whether or not it needs our hardships 194 00:18:17,260 --> 00:18:18,300 All 195 00:18:20,700 --> 00:18:20,860 right. 196 00:18:24,360 --> 00:18:25,720 Anyone want to make a motion? 197 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:34,920 Make a motion that we vote to reject or request for variance in this issue. 198 00:18:40,790 --> 00:18:47,230 I'm now accept a motion on the applicant Tyler Waters request for variance from, oh, I just did that. 199 00:18:49,290 --> 00:18:50,490 So we need one second. 200 00:18:50,990 --> 00:18:51,930 Okay. Do we have a second? 201 00:18:52,410 --> 00:18:53,550 Okay. All in favor? 202 00:18:54,290 --> 00:18:54,670 Hi. 203 00:18:54,790 --> 00:18:54,950 Hi. 204 00:18:57,670 --> 00:19:01,230 We didn't desegate that I'm an alternate that I vote today. 205 00:19:01,410 --> 00:19:02,990 Yes, sorry. 206 00:19:03,430 --> 00:19:05,250 Yeah, everybody gets to vote today. 207 00:19:05,890 --> 00:19:05,970 Yes. 208 00:19:07,050 --> 00:19:10,310 Okay, the board finds that the meeting of the board is properly noticed and 209 00:19:10,310 --> 00:19:12,030 calmed and based on the evidence presented. 210 00:19:12,210 --> 00:19:14,790 The board finds that the request for the variance has been denied. 211 00:19:15,350 --> 00:19:19,470 You may appeal the decision of the board by filing a verified petition in a district court, 212 00:19:19,650 --> 00:19:23,850 county court, or county court law within 10 days after the date of the board's decision 213 00:19:23,850 --> 00:19:25,550 in this filed in the board's office. 214 00:19:27,410 --> 00:19:27,430 Sorry. 215 00:19:27,810 --> 00:19:30,790 This hearing is concluded at 6.49. 216 00:19:31,430 --> 00:19:32,270 Thank you. 217 00:19:34,250 --> 00:19:35,050 I'll never get mentioned. 218 00:19:35,890 --> 00:19:36,550 I'm sorry, why? 219 00:19:36,770 --> 00:19:37,270 The agenda. 220 00:19:37,490 --> 00:19:37,810 Oh, yes. 221 00:19:38,150 --> 00:19:38,310 OK. 222 00:19:48,470 --> 00:19:51,770 Consider approval of the minutes of the January 28th, 223 00:19:51,770 --> 00:19:53,890 2026, 4th of adjustment meeting. 224 00:19:54,790 --> 00:19:56,410 Do I have a motion to approve? 225 00:19:58,960 --> 00:19:59,380 OK. 226 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:00,080 And a second? 227 00:20:00,380 --> 00:20:00,880 Second. 228 00:20:01,220 --> 00:20:01,920 All in favor? 229 00:20:02,340 --> 00:20:02,600 Aye. 230 00:20:02,740 --> 00:20:02,900 Aye. 231 00:20:03,580 --> 00:20:03,860 OK. 232 00:20:03,860 --> 00:20:04,000 All right. 233 00:20:05,020 --> 00:20:09,020 Well, that closes our meeting at 6.50. 234 00:20:09,380 --> 00:20:10,000 Thank you, everyone. 235 00:20:10,660 --> 00:20:12,680 And welcome to our new floor members.