1 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:21,000 Please 2 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:40,360 have a roll call. Yes. Mr. Chapman. Ms. Guthrie. Here. Mr. Harry Navar. Here. Mr. Bunkarner. Mr. Ziegler. Yes. Miss Raceus. Here. All right. Okay. 3 00:00:44,420 --> 00:00:45,620 So I believe we 4 00:00:56,730 --> 00:01:02,190 So first up, we have a presentation from Stacey Hans from Kentucky Transportation Cabinet 5 00:01:02,190 --> 00:01:06,750 regarding current and upcoming Kentucky Transportation Cabinet projects and initiatives 6 00:01:06,750 --> 00:01:07,970 affecting love low. 7 00:01:11,540 --> 00:01:15,960 Good evening everyone, as was stated, my name is Stacey Hans and just a little bit of an update 8 00:01:15,960 --> 00:01:16,920 to the agenda. 9 00:01:17,620 --> 00:01:24,020 I'm here really to focus on the existing Bridge Bridge corridor projects, not all of the other 10 00:01:24,020 --> 00:01:25,700 to my PC issues within the area. 11 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:27,860 So, really am just focusing 12 00:01:27,860 --> 00:01:29,780 on the Brent Spence Bridge corridor project. 13 00:01:30,860 --> 00:01:32,100 Obviously it's under construction. 14 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:34,640 Now, I do have a PowerPoint presentation. 15 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:37,280 You'll be turning my back as you all, 16 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:40,240 but I do feel like with everything that's going on, 17 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:41,960 the visuals that are being provided, 18 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:44,300 I think will help aid in the conversation. 19 00:01:46,020 --> 00:01:47,160 Let's see, there we go. 20 00:01:47,620 --> 00:01:49,340 All right, so just a quick project overview, 21 00:01:49,340 --> 00:01:51,060 and thank you guys for being flexible 22 00:01:51,060 --> 00:01:53,060 because I know we've done a different, 23 00:01:53,060 --> 00:01:55,460 a couple different iterations for the presentation. 24 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:58,500 But just as a reminder of the project overview, 25 00:01:58,820 --> 00:02:00,380 the Prince Prince Bridge corridor project 26 00:02:00,380 --> 00:02:03,700 in its entirety is approximately eight miles. 27 00:02:04,060 --> 00:02:07,620 So three miles in Ohio, five miles in Kentucky, 28 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:12,060 with the construction of a new companion bridge immediately 29 00:02:12,490 --> 00:02:14,840 to the west of the existing Prince Prince Bridge, 30 00:02:15,100 --> 00:02:17,940 and rehabilitation of the existing Prince Prince Bridge, 31 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:20,460 taking that current four-lane configuration, 32 00:02:20,460 --> 00:02:27,900 being able to re-stripe it back to three lanes with the introduction of shoulders back to its original design. 33 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:35,380 So the Brisbane Bridge was originally designed to carry 80,000 vehicles per day because of the increase in traffic. 34 00:02:35,380 --> 00:02:38,460 It was re-striped. The lanes were actually narrowed to 11 foot lanes. 35 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:43,180 If you drive it on a daily basis like I do, you know it's kind of a white knuckle area, right? 36 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:50,360 So with this project, we are able to recapture those shoulders and 37 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:57,080 restripe it into the three-link configuration and the existing Prince Prince Ridge is what will carry the local traffic. 38 00:02:57,380 --> 00:03:10,460 So on the slide there, you see that we are constructing a CD system or what we call a collector distributor system between 12th street on the Kentucky side, so right there's you're going down the cut in the hill, all the way to 39 00:03:10,460 --> 00:03:16,600 So, Glen Street in Ohio, and at that point, your decision is if I'm going through traffic, 40 00:03:16,860 --> 00:03:18,220 I'm going to go on the new bridge. 41 00:03:18,580 --> 00:03:23,420 I'm going to be able to use our new double deck structure carrying five lanes of interstate 42 00:03:23,420 --> 00:03:27,040 traffic in the northbound on the top and five lanes on the bottom. 43 00:03:28,020 --> 00:03:33,740 If I want to go to Covington or Cincinnati, I will enter that collector distributor system 44 00:03:33,740 --> 00:03:37,100 and that's where I can get off into Covington and that's where I can get off into Cincinnati. 45 00:03:37,100 --> 00:03:39,440 that traffic will also be coming from those areas 46 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:41,560 on that collector distributor system. 47 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:44,160 So the intent of that is to improve safety. 48 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:47,280 By having the traffic coming in and off and off 49 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:49,800 the interstates on the collector distributor 50 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:53,060 that allows the interstate traffic 51 00:03:53,060 --> 00:03:54,720 to have more of a free flow condition. 52 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:57,380 If you've been in like the Chicago area 53 00:03:57,380 --> 00:03:58,680 where you have your express lanes 54 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:00,900 and your local lanes, very similar concept 55 00:04:00,900 --> 00:04:02,680 to improve the safety aspect of the corridor. 56 00:04:03,420 --> 00:04:08,140 We are also improving bicycle and pedestrian facilities. 57 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:13,020 You know, when we're talking about this corridor, a lot of times we talk about the main line or the interstate system. 58 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:18,600 But there are communities underneath and adjacent to the corridor. 59 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:23,060 And we are working with, you know, in our situation, the Steve, coming to on our side, 60 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:27,520 to look at opportunities to improve the multimodal cross connectivity. 61 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:31,940 For example, improve my sickle facilities, improve pedestrian facilities. 62 00:04:32,220 --> 00:04:38,480 If you've been in Goble Park and walking to the west side, you know that underpass at the southern end at night streets pretty dark. 63 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:41,920 We're going to improve lighting in that area, just one example. 64 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:47,860 As we continue on, this is just a pretty picture of what it's going to look like to cross the bridge at the nighttime. 65 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:51,240 It is a double deck cable stay structure. 66 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:55,760 We have several types of bridges in the northern Kentucky Cincinnati area. 67 00:04:56,060 --> 00:05:00,600 We do not have a cable stay, but this cable stay is even a little bit more unique than some 68 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:04,540 of the others that you've seen up and down the Ohio River on the Kentucky borders. 69 00:05:05,060 --> 00:05:09,740 It is an independent deck to tiered cable stay bridge. 70 00:05:10,300 --> 00:05:15,100 And what that means is if you've seen some of the others, the decks themselves are actually 71 00:05:15,100 --> 00:05:16,500 connected by steel members. 72 00:05:16,500 --> 00:05:23,840 So very much like driving our existing corridor or existing bridge when you're on the bottom deck, you feel like a little tight. 73 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:31,240 It's impeding your view. The cables is all that's connecting that lower deck on our bridge. So you have a little more of an open view. 74 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:38,600 Just as I said, we are trying to make it a little more unique to our area. Just taking it up just one more notch. 75 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:42,260 I want to talk quickly about the work in progress. 76 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:45,400 I'm sure that you guys are very familiar. 77 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:48,160 I should say very familiar with the work that's going on 78 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:51,360 in the exits to and from Covington right now. 79 00:05:51,820 --> 00:05:54,200 But just a little bit of an update on where we are. 80 00:05:54,640 --> 00:06:00,560 And I want to highlight that if you're familiar with this picture 81 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:02,820 or what you've seen in this picture, it seems a little bit of 82 00:06:02,820 --> 00:06:04,960 may seem a little bit out of sorts. 83 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:09,040 because that is the Pete Rose ballcat at the Clay White Bayley. 84 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:11,800 I assure you we're not building the bridge at the Clay White Bayley. 85 00:06:11,980 --> 00:06:14,460 It is just adjacent to the existing Brentsman's bridge. 86 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:18,120 But this is a tied air on the area for the barges 87 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:20,280 to help deliver equipment and material. 88 00:06:20,660 --> 00:06:22,620 So where it's a staging area, it's being constructed. 89 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:25,360 It's really actually pretty close to being done, 90 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:28,040 so that we can start receiving material and receiving equipment. 91 00:06:28,580 --> 00:06:31,700 You see some of the cranes, some of the cranes have already been brought in from that area. 92 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:36,860 It will stay out there throughout the duration of the project, but it is just a holding area. 93 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:41,400 All of the construction is happening just west of the existing Brent Spence Bridge. 94 00:06:42,100 --> 00:06:46,680 As far as roadway and ramp improvements that we have going on, we have the reconstruction 95 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:50,860 of Bullock, which is the local connection on the west side of the interstate, of course. 96 00:06:51,420 --> 00:06:56,980 But that ties directly into Martin Luther King, 12th Street entrance ramp to get on the interstate. 97 00:06:56,980 --> 00:07:03,480 So that's closed right now as well as the MLK northbound ramp to the coming to an areas. 98 00:07:03,940 --> 00:07:10,220 We are looking to get block reconstructed, be able to reopen those ramps. 99 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:14,840 The reason that we're doing that if we're thinking about the corridor itself, we've started 100 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:15,840 on the west side. 101 00:07:16,100 --> 00:07:22,660 We've moved those local streets a little bit further to the west and re-aligned those ramps 102 00:07:22,660 --> 00:07:24,020 to the future configuration. 103 00:07:24,020 --> 00:07:28,260 Our next steps will be to do the same thing on the east side of the interstate. 104 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:31,620 So move Simon Kittenway further to the east. 105 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:36,460 Will Lockwell be open, Simon Kittenway will be closed to allow that wider footprint in 106 00:07:36,460 --> 00:07:39,580 there, and then we will start working on the main line and the bridges in that area. 107 00:07:40,020 --> 00:07:44,900 So just a little bit of fourth thought into what that phasing is going to look like as we 108 00:07:44,900 --> 00:07:45,400 move forward. 109 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:51,020 And then a really a lot of the other work that we have going on right now are utility 110 00:07:51,020 --> 00:07:56,740 updates when we're looking at water line replacements, sanitary sewer, some of the just infrastructure 111 00:07:56,740 --> 00:08:01,420 improvements that we need to do before we can start the rest of the roadway. Obviously, a lot of 112 00:08:01,420 --> 00:08:07,040 work going on in Google Park right now, that's to help with soil stabilization. If you've built things 113 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:12,060 in this area, you know, we don't have the best soil, but we have a lot of roadway work that's going 114 00:08:12,060 --> 00:08:20,600 on in there, so we are actually doing mechanisms that will help stabilize that soil. So some pilings, 115 00:08:21,020 --> 00:08:29,060 lot of just firming it up. And then last but not least is the red detour of the realignment 116 00:08:29,060 --> 00:08:30,300 of the Kentucky Riverwalk. 117 00:08:32,330 --> 00:08:37,110 I'm sorry, I apologize. So, you know, I've spoken about some of the 118 00:08:37,110 --> 00:08:42,410 activities that are going on, but I just wanted to show one more visual of what is currently open. 119 00:08:42,650 --> 00:08:47,230 What you like to say that green means go. So green is what you have open and what you have access to 120 00:08:47,230 --> 00:08:52,010 right now. Red is showing what is closed. You can see at the bottom that is all of the work 121 00:08:52,010 --> 00:08:59,330 associated to that Bullock Avenue on the west side, as well as the access to and from Martin Luther King. 122 00:09:00,010 --> 00:09:04,890 We have what you see on number six is the local street for night street. 123 00:09:05,150 --> 00:09:09,830 That's to help with access to the park, to the work that's going on there right now. 124 00:09:10,250 --> 00:09:14,470 And also to prevent using that as a cutthroat because it is a residential area. 125 00:09:14,630 --> 00:09:18,070 We don't want a lot of traffic filtering through there that would not otherwise be there. 126 00:09:18,850 --> 00:09:21,550 And then the only other one that I wanted to point out, 127 00:09:21,550 --> 00:09:28,710 Which I do think is significant for this community is the number seven that we have there and it is not currently closed 128 00:09:28,710 --> 00:09:31,870 But is the seventy one seventy five 129 00:09:32,670 --> 00:09:38,830 Southbound ramp to fifth Street right now when you're coming off of fifth Street in the Southbound direction 130 00:09:38,830 --> 00:09:44,390 You have the option to go west, which is the one I would assume that you guys use most 131 00:09:44,390 --> 00:09:48,950 But you also have the option to go east down into Philadelphia 132 00:09:48,950 --> 00:10:10,970 That ramp will go away as part of the construction of this project, but there's also that local connection in the west to the east, so in the east bound direction from Crescent Avenue to 5th Street, that's that local street underneath, that will also go away during the construction of this, but that access goes away permanently. 133 00:10:10,970 --> 00:10:17,290 So that traffic will be will be routed and utilize third street, which they're looking 134 00:10:17,290 --> 00:10:21,670 coming to is looking to make third street more of that connection of course with all 135 00:10:21,670 --> 00:10:27,110 of the development going on with their former IRS site, their CCR development. 136 00:10:28,010 --> 00:10:31,610 Just as it heads up, like I said, I feel like that was something I wanted to point out to 137 00:10:31,610 --> 00:10:32,250 this community. 138 00:10:32,930 --> 00:10:39,050 That now in the in the bill of condition, the ramp will actually come back and it's a left 139 00:10:39,050 --> 00:10:43,550 hand exit, but I just wanted to highlight that that local street connection goes away. 140 00:10:46,550 --> 00:10:53,930 That's an excellent question, and right now, because Third Street is closed, and Third 141 00:10:53,930 --> 00:10:58,130 Street is closed because of that utility relocation, and we're actively working on that. 142 00:10:58,690 --> 00:11:01,590 When Third Street opens is when Fifth Street will close. 143 00:11:01,750 --> 00:11:05,790 We have to make sure that we provide east-west connectivity, obviously, right? 144 00:11:06,750 --> 00:11:09,970 So we will not close Fifth Street until Third Street's open. 145 00:11:10,570 --> 00:11:15,390 I can't give you an exact date, it will be this fall and I will, I would say it's probably 146 00:11:15,390 --> 00:11:21,310 going to be September, late September timeframe maybe October and we'll see how aggressive 147 00:11:21,310 --> 00:11:22,370 our contractors can be. 148 00:11:22,710 --> 00:11:24,510 All right. 149 00:11:25,110 --> 00:11:30,290 So I just want to confirm that if you say there will be both closures, but there so will be 150 00:11:30,290 --> 00:11:33,650 access to get off in Kevinton, just they'll be one. 151 00:11:34,110 --> 00:11:37,830 Yeah, there will be at one, that's what I, like I said, I think it's important, I can't 152 00:11:37,830 --> 00:11:38,870 really back up with this one. 153 00:11:38,870 --> 00:11:39,250 I'm sorry. 154 00:11:39,790 --> 00:11:41,410 Maybe I can't hold on to it. 155 00:11:42,050 --> 00:11:42,890 You got it right there. 156 00:11:43,090 --> 00:11:43,550 There we go. 157 00:11:44,070 --> 00:11:44,150 No. 158 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:48,980 There we go. 159 00:11:50,100 --> 00:11:54,440 So the access from 71 South, about 7175 South bound 160 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:57,460 into the eastbound direction, or excuse me, westbound direction 161 00:11:57,460 --> 00:11:59,400 to present, it stays open. 162 00:12:00,100 --> 00:12:02,940 So you don't have that one, we'll stay open for them. 163 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:06,620 And it's actually, when we close Fifth Street, 164 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:08,460 that local connection in that ramp, 165 00:12:08,460 --> 00:12:10,320 that is designed to detour. 166 00:12:10,540 --> 00:12:13,080 The signed detour for everyone entering Covington 167 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:16,420 will be to go off that ramp, upcress it, 168 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:19,080 and then across third and then disperse through Covington. 169 00:12:22,870 --> 00:12:24,290 I appreciate you guys asking questions. 170 00:12:24,670 --> 00:12:25,510 It's a lot to absorb. 171 00:12:26,210 --> 00:12:28,630 And when I say it's a lot to absorb, I understand. 172 00:12:29,470 --> 00:12:32,050 And that's why I really want to highlight this slide 173 00:12:32,050 --> 00:12:33,070 as much as anything. 174 00:12:34,490 --> 00:12:37,850 And I may have to go behind you to do this 175 00:12:37,850 --> 00:12:41,690 because it just takes us to a project website. 176 00:12:42,310 --> 00:12:46,470 And I need to get it out of the presentation and onto the website. 177 00:12:46,670 --> 00:12:52,750 So the overall project corridor website is rentspencebridgecordor.com 178 00:12:52,750 --> 00:12:56,850 and there's a lot of knowledge on that website. 179 00:12:56,850 --> 00:12:57,670 I think 180 00:13:36,420 --> 00:13:41,220 it might have changed, you know, it should have been three, I 181 00:13:45,990 --> 00:13:46,890 don't know, it is 182 00:13:46,890 --> 00:13:51,290 no, no, no, should 183 00:13:53,660 --> 00:13:54,500 have happened to it. 184 00:13:55,520 --> 00:14:05,460 If you said technology is great, yeah, it works, yeah, I will try one more time, but I think 185 00:14:05,460 --> 00:14:10,380 if you, yeah, just what I'm talking about, it's going to work, that's what I was going 186 00:14:10,380 --> 00:14:10,680 to say. 187 00:14:10,680 --> 00:14:17,120 So if we have a project website that is for instance bridge corridor dot com, I encourage 188 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:22,480 you to get on the website on the top. There's a banner of tabs across and one is the travel 189 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:30,080 on updates. Get on there. If you're looking at it, that's where you're going to get your travel 190 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:34,200 updates. That's where you're going to get your travel advisories. It is divided out into impacts 191 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:40,020 in Kentucky and impacts in Ohio. And then even outside of those, it has short term and long term 192 00:14:40,020 --> 00:14:46,740 closures. So I encourage you to get on there. I also encourage you to scroll down 193 00:14:46,740 --> 00:14:50,180 to the bottom of that page and there's an opportunity to sign up for emails 194 00:14:50,180 --> 00:14:55,500 and for text messages. So that's when if there's a major closure you will get an 195 00:14:55,500 --> 00:14:59,700 email blast or you will get a text blast. We just sit one out for an upcoming 196 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:29,980 So I, so it will give you a vocal hi when you're talking, when you sign up for that. But I promise we're not going to, we're not going to give you overkill on your text messages. I think so far, even with all the work going on, we may have, we're in then maybe like this 7-8 range as far as how many that's gone out. So those are the major closures. But I will also say the other thing that I really wanted to highlight for you all. And I can show you here, just a little bit quickly, yeah. On the website, there is this tabring. 197 00:15:29,980 --> 00:15:38,340 here that says tour project virtual route. That is set up as if you were walking into, I'm sure 198 00:15:38,340 --> 00:15:41,740 we've all been to public meetings before, where you have the boards, you have the displays, 199 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:47,500 and you're presenting information. That walks you into a virtual setup of that. It's almost set 200 00:15:47,500 --> 00:15:53,060 up like you were at the previous Duke Energy Center. So you have a board in front of you, you have 201 00:15:53,060 --> 00:15:57,660 different things that you can click on to the sides and to the front, that you can click on into 202 00:15:57,660 --> 00:16:01,280 the sides in the front are the fly-through videos. If you guys have seen the fly-through videos 203 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:06,680 of our core and work, there's the Ohio fly-through, there's the bridge itself, there's the Kentucky 204 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:10,380 portion, and then you have the entire core part. So you can get in there and you can poke around. 205 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:17,720 There's also set up as a display in front of you. That display is divided up into the very sections 206 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:21,960 or components of the project. So there's the Cincinnati side, there's the Main River crossing, 207 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:27,460 There's the Covington area, there's the Covington Hill area, and then the Port Rite 208 00:16:27,460 --> 00:16:28,100 for Mitchell area. 209 00:16:28,300 --> 00:16:29,500 So you can click on each one of those. 210 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:33,140 And for each one of those, there's a little button that says plan view. 211 00:16:33,740 --> 00:16:36,560 Plan view will give you the bird's eye view. 212 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:39,580 So as if you're standing up and looking down on it. 213 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:41,420 So you can see all of the movements there. 214 00:16:42,540 --> 00:16:48,880 If you click out of that or if you go back to that display board, you're going to see little 215 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:54,680 pins that have drones on them and some that have cameras on them. If you can click on the drones, 216 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:59,700 it will give you a 360 view of that area. If you click on the picture, it will give you just a 217 00:16:59,700 --> 00:17:07,480 rendering of what that area looks like in the final configuration. As a project manager for the project, 218 00:17:07,940 --> 00:17:14,260 I use that website on a daily basis. When I'm talking to people, I'm a visual person myself. 219 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:20,940 It's so much easier to explain things to show what the link configurations are going to be to show what the 220 00:17:20,940 --> 00:17:23,800 It's that Rams are going to look like in the future conditions 221 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:31,440 So I would encourage you to get on our overall project website and that button has a separate website because it's pretty 222 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:33,820 It's it's an odd it's an odd kind of 223 00:17:34,820 --> 00:17:39,620 Address so I just click I'd encourage you to click that button and go from there 224 00:17:41,380 --> 00:17:44,000 And then last but not least I 225 00:17:44,260 --> 00:17:47,840 would like for you guys, like I said, to follow the project. 226 00:17:48,300 --> 00:17:50,880 I mentioned our text messages, our emails, 227 00:17:51,180 --> 00:17:54,680 also every different kind of social media that you can think of 228 00:17:55,250 --> 00:17:59,840 to get updates on the project and share that information 229 00:17:59,840 --> 00:18:02,640 because as part of the project team, 230 00:18:03,180 --> 00:18:06,960 we understand that the project is going to be a long project. 231 00:18:07,120 --> 00:18:10,980 It's going to be a lot to work through. 232 00:18:10,980 --> 00:18:15,120 We all live, the Kentucky team, all those in Kentucky. 233 00:18:15,360 --> 00:18:17,980 We travel this corridor on a daily basis. 234 00:18:18,500 --> 00:18:21,440 I would ask that everyone have patience 235 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:24,460 as we work through the project, but most importantly, 236 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:27,960 I would ask that you guys share the sources of information. 237 00:18:28,380 --> 00:18:29,780 Because to me, the most important thing 238 00:18:29,780 --> 00:18:31,220 that I can walk away from today 239 00:18:31,700 --> 00:18:34,160 is giving you guys the source of information 240 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:37,280 so that you can go back and always have the most current, 241 00:18:37,300 --> 00:18:39,440 most up-to-date information that we know 242 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:40,800 coming from the project team. 243 00:18:43,950 --> 00:18:53,390 I did have my contact information on the last slide but my contact 244 00:18:53,390 --> 00:18:57,170 information I do work for the Kentucky Transportation Cabinet, so it's just off the 245 00:18:57,170 --> 00:18:59,870 I don't know if I've spent some time in Melbourne now, 246 00:19:00,010 --> 00:19:01,610 because that's a project site as well. 247 00:19:02,670 --> 00:19:10,430 But it's STACEE.HANS at ky.gov. 248 00:19:10,650 --> 00:19:12,670 If anyone would like to reach out with questions. 249 00:19:12,950 --> 00:19:13,090 Yeah. 250 00:19:13,570 --> 00:19:15,230 Stacy, one more question, I'm sure it's for you. 251 00:19:15,470 --> 00:19:17,350 If we have questions I want to reach out 252 00:19:17,910 --> 00:19:20,950 about the impact that we've made or may not have it with Raleigh, 253 00:19:21,070 --> 00:19:22,990 can we reach out with additional questions to you? 254 00:19:23,150 --> 00:19:23,510 Absolutely. 255 00:19:23,810 --> 00:19:26,610 Or do you have any information, this KYTC 256 00:19:26,610 --> 00:19:31,250 you believe that there's going to be an effect to the traffic on Route 8 as a result 257 00:19:31,250 --> 00:19:33,010 of the Red Spence Gorda project. 258 00:19:33,470 --> 00:19:36,830 Yeah, so that's one of the things I did want to point out in the project. 259 00:19:37,090 --> 00:19:42,690 So in the future condition where Third Street ties into Crescent Avenue and that obviously 260 00:19:42,690 --> 00:19:44,810 turns around and comes into a highway avenue. 261 00:19:45,250 --> 00:19:49,830 In the future condition, it is not a three-way stop and it is not a traffic signal. 262 00:19:50,210 --> 00:19:55,330 It is designed for that to be around about, which will help facilitate the movement of that 263 00:19:55,330 --> 00:19:55,750 traffic. 264 00:19:55,750 --> 00:19:58,750 And then as far as the footprint of the existing, 265 00:19:59,530 --> 00:20:01,610 of the Vredspin stretch corridor project, 266 00:20:02,810 --> 00:20:06,950 we don't go far beyond where the lobby gate 267 00:20:06,950 --> 00:20:10,630 or that lobby entrance, for this west lobby entrance is. 268 00:20:11,170 --> 00:20:14,630 So as far as impacts, physical impacts, 269 00:20:15,110 --> 00:20:17,170 to can take you to route a, 270 00:20:17,510 --> 00:20:20,030 we're not experiencing that, we don't plan that. 271 00:20:20,470 --> 00:20:23,050 As far as what traffic does on a, 272 00:20:23,630 --> 00:20:24,750 even what happens now, 273 00:20:24,750 --> 00:20:28,350 or even what happened a year ago before we even started this project. 274 00:20:28,890 --> 00:20:32,830 We are encouraging people to find, to follow ways, to do the way finding. 275 00:20:33,070 --> 00:20:36,590 We know that sometimes that puts them in places that they shouldn't be. 276 00:20:36,750 --> 00:20:41,850 But I will say that we are working very closely with the freight community, the freight and logistics 277 00:20:41,850 --> 00:20:46,790 community, including those at Cincinnati, North Kentucky, airport, North Texas, and Air 278 00:20:46,790 --> 00:20:51,770 Port, CBG, and really working with them to encourage their freight and their logistics 279 00:20:51,770 --> 00:20:53,630 it spokes to use 275. 280 00:20:54,090 --> 00:20:56,410 And we're working with, even the freight, 281 00:20:56,990 --> 00:20:58,890 if you didn't know, the freight community 282 00:20:58,890 --> 00:21:00,450 has their own way finding system. 283 00:21:00,990 --> 00:21:02,570 And we're working with them to encourage them 284 00:21:02,570 --> 00:21:03,710 to use 275. 285 00:21:03,970 --> 00:21:06,370 So really, that's where we're trying to push everyone. 286 00:21:06,530 --> 00:21:07,530 If you see the detour signs, 287 00:21:07,650 --> 00:21:08,950 if you're heading in the northbound direction, 288 00:21:09,490 --> 00:21:11,150 you're gonna see the orange signs, 289 00:21:11,310 --> 00:21:13,130 the detour signs at 275. 290 00:21:13,690 --> 00:21:17,050 So our goal is to minimize the people that are in the corridor. 291 00:21:17,590 --> 00:21:19,190 And I know we've had a lot of references 292 00:21:19,190 --> 00:21:27,590 to the 2020 bridge fire, but keep in mind that during the 2020 bridge fire, there was no access across the bridge fence. 293 00:21:27,810 --> 00:21:33,810 They called the middle, no one's driving through. With this project, we are keeping the existing bridge open 294 00:21:33,810 --> 00:21:38,850 until the new companion bridge is ready to come online, then we'll move traffic over there, 295 00:21:39,490 --> 00:21:44,730 do that restriping that we've spoken about before we're able to have the whole corridor open. 296 00:21:44,730 --> 00:21:53,130 So, yeah, I want to make sure that, because I looked at that, I looked at the red fire and that was a lot, I don't want that to be everyone's point of reference. 297 00:21:53,470 --> 00:21:55,890 Do we have any other questions for Stacy? 298 00:21:56,830 --> 00:22:03,250 I would just love to ask Stacy to continue to come back and update us around the process, I think that would be great. 299 00:22:03,490 --> 00:22:12,790 And then, mayor, my question to you was going to be how, like, what strategies can we put in place to make sure that we're getting this information out for residents, 300 00:22:12,790 --> 00:22:16,770 whether it be, you know, as we're getting different travel advisories, can we 301 00:22:16,770 --> 00:22:22,110 have Jenny Millen put that on the digital sign, talking about them here at 302 00:22:22,110 --> 00:22:25,470 council, just trying to think about different ways that as those different 303 00:22:25,470 --> 00:22:30,270 phases are happening, we can communicate those. I think it'd be great to say in touch 304 00:22:30,270 --> 00:22:34,110 with you, to keep us absolutely up to date on and then we'll definitely 305 00:22:34,110 --> 00:22:37,710 disseminate that information out to our residents. I totally appreciate that ask. 306 00:22:40,470 --> 00:22:40,950 I 307 00:22:40,950 --> 00:23:07,110 I said the next item for y'all be aware of is the work associated with fits street will be in that configuration for a couple of months, and then right now our target is in a November beginning of December for another major or another traffic shift will be able to start opening some of those ramps, and we'll that's when you know we'll have others that will close so definitely keep in mind for that timeline, so that's great. Thank you. 308 00:23:22,190 --> 00:23:26,910 Next up, we have a presentation from Will Weber from Southbank Partners on a Riverfront 309 00:23:26,910 --> 00:23:27,930 Commons update. 310 00:23:29,490 --> 00:23:34,250 So, take a little different approach now I have in the past here, so instead of a song 311 00:23:34,250 --> 00:23:39,070 and dance in presentation, you have, I believe, a two-pager in front of you. 312 00:23:39,590 --> 00:23:44,170 Just given you an overview of different projects, Southbank Partners is working on with the city. 313 00:23:44,930 --> 00:23:49,290 Obviously, Riverfront Commons is the signature piece, I broke that up into a couple categories 314 00:23:49,290 --> 00:23:54,630 for you, so I will not read this to you at Nazim by any stretch, but just give you a little highlight 315 00:23:54,630 --> 00:24:02,110 real here. So as it pertains to the Riverwalk, phase two we are wrapping up right now with some 316 00:24:02,110 --> 00:24:06,990 landscaping and working through a lighting design for phase two and as from Adela to Hooper Street. 317 00:24:07,750 --> 00:24:13,170 We met last week onsite with the superintendent to go through exactly what that landscape plan 318 00:24:13,170 --> 00:24:21,490 looks like on their side of the fence to avoid the windscreens and for any longer than I think anyone 319 00:24:21,490 --> 00:24:26,090 would like the windscreens to be at. So working through a landscape plan for that to take place 320 00:24:26,090 --> 00:24:31,650 later in September to get that in place we are working through design contracts for lighting 321 00:24:31,650 --> 00:24:36,650 that's going to be a much more involved process whatever the standard is set there we would continue 322 00:24:36,650 --> 00:24:41,250 that through phase one and work out any type of lighting solutions that the city may want for the park 323 00:24:41,250 --> 00:24:46,270 So before any decisions are made, we're going to be going through just preliminary design to get that feedback. 324 00:24:46,810 --> 00:24:52,050 And that will actually help not only just the city of Ludlow, but help set the president for other cities as well. 325 00:24:53,570 --> 00:24:57,070 See here, so phase three, we haven't talked much about phase three in the past. 326 00:24:57,650 --> 00:24:59,810 This one is really looking going toward east. 327 00:25:00,310 --> 00:25:03,790 So from the end of Hooper Street where phase two terminates at, 328 00:25:03,790 --> 00:25:06,530 seems to what was the cul-de-sac of Hooper Street, 329 00:25:07,150 --> 00:25:11,790 and progressing east towards Carneal, Ohio. 330 00:25:12,410 --> 00:25:14,470 Right now, very preliminary looking 331 00:25:14,470 --> 00:25:17,750 at the topography in that area, because all of the streets 332 00:25:17,750 --> 00:25:20,070 that run to the river, terminate at the river. 333 00:25:20,890 --> 00:25:24,410 If you're not going, excuse me here, 334 00:25:24,530 --> 00:25:26,190 let me work on my geography here. 335 00:25:26,570 --> 00:25:28,130 If you go beyond the street, there's 336 00:25:28,130 --> 00:25:30,130 very limited area before you're going down the hillside 337 00:25:30,130 --> 00:25:30,690 towards the river. 338 00:25:30,870 --> 00:25:32,830 So right now, very preliminary research 339 00:25:32,830 --> 00:25:37,130 to understand that area and of course any type of community engagement talking to any potential 340 00:25:37,130 --> 00:25:42,450 residents or businesses that might be impacted with whatever that preliminary design would be 341 00:25:42,450 --> 00:25:47,390 is to get their feedback and their willingness to participate to continue to see the river walk 342 00:25:47,390 --> 00:25:53,770 through. So at this point I always like to emphasize before there's a map or a line of where do you 343 00:25:53,770 --> 00:25:58,130 want it to go and how is it impacting my property? I'd like to talk and have a conversation with you 344 00:25:58,130 --> 00:26:01,230 first. That way, it's a little more public engagement face. 345 00:26:01,450 --> 00:26:07,670 Well, on the, on Hooper Street to Carneal, yes, are you talking, going front of spatties? 346 00:26:08,570 --> 00:26:14,090 So at this time, we would like to be able to go as close to the rivers we can so we'd be 347 00:26:14,090 --> 00:26:18,710 on the back side of spatties and continue to fall that way. But really, it's based on 348 00:26:18,710 --> 00:26:24,470 the participation of spattie and residents as we go around the building. Yes, that would 349 00:26:24,470 --> 00:26:28,270 be the preferred route, but I forget that John might be, isn't it? 350 00:26:28,870 --> 00:26:28,970 What? 351 00:26:29,330 --> 00:26:30,470 The gentleman who had spatting. 352 00:26:30,790 --> 00:26:31,530 I don't know who it is. 353 00:26:32,550 --> 00:26:35,950 The neighbor introduced me to him briefly once, so I haven't had enough conversation. 354 00:26:36,490 --> 00:26:40,150 I could say, ideally it would be nice to go on that side, just given the public right 355 00:26:40,150 --> 00:26:43,630 of way, you know, with or the sidewalk, just being able to have a dedicated path, but 356 00:26:43,630 --> 00:26:44,970 there are time frame on that base. 357 00:26:45,530 --> 00:26:46,310 There is not. 358 00:26:46,410 --> 00:26:51,710 I believe our engineer flew the drone the last couple of weeks to get a better understanding 359 00:26:51,710 --> 00:26:54,650 in the photography, so we can put a, I'm gonna say, 360 00:26:55,290 --> 00:26:56,770 I wouldn't even put a pen on paper. 361 00:26:56,890 --> 00:26:58,810 This is more pencil on paper to start the conversation, 362 00:26:59,110 --> 00:26:59,970 sit down with him and say, 363 00:27:00,270 --> 00:27:01,190 here's what we'd like to do. 364 00:27:01,790 --> 00:27:03,470 Are you willing to work with us on here? 365 00:27:03,590 --> 00:27:05,530 Here's what we would need in order for this to happen, 366 00:27:05,770 --> 00:27:07,730 so a lot of engagement through there. 367 00:27:07,870 --> 00:27:11,170 So the part that's finished behind the football stadium, 368 00:27:11,790 --> 00:27:13,550 I know there were a lot of trees cut down, 369 00:27:14,090 --> 00:27:17,110 are those gonna be removed, or is just gonna lay there? 370 00:27:17,530 --> 00:27:19,890 The ones that were just dropped through there? 371 00:27:20,450 --> 00:27:24,150 So, right now, let's see here, we have figured 372 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:27,960 out the best way to answer this question. 373 00:27:28,260 --> 00:27:30,520 So, yes, they would be removed. 374 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:38,600 Some when they were cut down was, I don't know, woodchipper, woodmove, not the landscaper 375 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:39,720 by any stretch, as you can imagine. 376 00:27:39,900 --> 00:27:47,240 So, they will be removed in such a way that there will no longer be larger logs there, so 377 00:27:47,980 --> 00:27:51,660 So addressing that piece, but also, I believe he is a subcontractor that 378 00:27:52,900 --> 00:27:54,960 stuffed grinder to eliminate those. 379 00:27:55,620 --> 00:27:56,940 The reason why I asked is a lot of it. 380 00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:01,260 When it floods, the water is going to take it down river. 381 00:28:02,500 --> 00:28:02,660 Yes. 382 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:04,260 It could be left here on the side. 383 00:28:04,580 --> 00:28:04,760 Yes. 384 00:28:04,940 --> 00:28:05,140 Wherever. 385 00:28:05,540 --> 00:28:05,640 Yeah. 386 00:28:05,900 --> 00:28:06,380 Through that way. 387 00:28:06,580 --> 00:28:06,640 Yes. 388 00:28:07,060 --> 00:28:11,040 I think I wanted to say this was Tuesday of this week. 389 00:28:11,860 --> 00:28:16,140 We were bolting down all the benches and trash cans and saw from the last storm. 390 00:28:16,140 --> 00:28:19,900 Looks like a couple of trees had lost branches and died through there 391 00:28:19,900 --> 00:28:22,720 So I met with Shane and we were going through different ones 392 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:26,160 They need to be cleaned up so the next time he's down there will clean those up and then address 393 00:28:27,100 --> 00:28:29,180 The remaining wood that's down 394 00:28:29,740 --> 00:28:33,220 I want to call it the cross country browned if you will for the school 395 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:41,760 Remaining trees, but yes, great question 396 00:28:51,500 --> 00:28:56,600 So let's see here. And then future phases here, I mean, we've got to go further east towards 397 00:28:56,600 --> 00:29:04,020 West Street and West Coveings and further west into the Vue Park and making those connections 398 00:29:04,020 --> 00:29:08,520 through there. So phase 4, 5 and 6 are certainly a longer term. Those are part of the design 399 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:13,840 for the raise grant. If and when, we finally get an agreement from the FHWA and if the 400 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:19,160 Stacy still here and she can pull some strings for us, everybody to help us sign an agreement 401 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:27,580 for friends in DC. On those phases you spoke of the 456. Is it like five years out, 10 years 402 00:29:27,580 --> 00:29:35,580 out, 15 years out? I would say our, I know it's hard to guess that. I think design would be reasonably 403 00:29:35,580 --> 00:29:41,100 in 12 months, once we establish what the design looks like and where it's gonna go, then it becomes a 404 00:29:41,100 --> 00:29:49,750 funding conversation, so 3 to 5 optimistically in that area to get phase 405 00:29:53,500 --> 00:29:56,160 5, I'd say 3 to 5, phase 6 406 00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:57,540 It's probably going to be five plus, 407 00:29:57,660 --> 00:29:58,860 depending on what that looks like. 408 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:23,840 Through here. So park improvement wise, so just helping close things out this fall. I mentioned it earlier, I think, right before the meeting started working with our artists right now to finalize a mural map designed that would be replicated in each of the cities at the Riverfront Park. So on the side of the restrooms left storage, slash concession building on the east side that would face. 409 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:35,680 You got it. You were having a lot of peace and cues here. So it'll face that side. 410 00:30:36,220 --> 00:30:41,280 We're doing a pilot one right now in Newport near where the former hooters, your seller location was. 411 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:45,900 Once we find tune that, we'll be able to replicate that and have a good point of interest. 412 00:30:45,900 --> 00:30:48,680 And hopefully an Instagramable moment for people to take pictures. 413 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:54,560 And then, what else to highlight through here, let's see. 414 00:30:54,760 --> 00:31:00,500 So for a trailhead perspective, so differentiating between the river walk, the park and the trailhead. 415 00:31:00,820 --> 00:31:06,280 Typically, a trailhead is where you're driving to to stop, get out and walk or bike on the path. 416 00:31:06,660 --> 00:31:17,540 So one ask I have, because I know there are many, many priorities in a budget and any fiscal year, is if the city would prioritize or consider prioritizing, 417 00:31:17,540 --> 00:31:22,420 paving the gravel log in that area with curbs and drainage solution because I 418 00:31:22,420 --> 00:31:26,720 know anytime it rains which it seems like this summer we have had torrential 419 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:30,300 downpours in a short amount of time that a lot of that gravel is going on to the 420 00:31:30,300 --> 00:31:34,000 river walk and walking through here so that would be a nice chair on top of all 421 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:39,340 the improvements in that area is to get that one teed up and finish there. Once 422 00:31:39,340 --> 00:31:43,780 that is complete we do have a part of our amenity package is bike racks and 423 00:31:43,780 --> 00:31:46,340 like repair stations and more landscaping in that area. 424 00:31:46,740 --> 00:31:48,180 So as you come to the end of Adela, 425 00:31:48,460 --> 00:31:50,400 you have arrived to the riverfront park 426 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:52,440 and the river wall and all these connections through there. 427 00:31:52,540 --> 00:31:54,400 I've got a question on the reinstall 428 00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:55,780 River Stage lettering. 429 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:56,320 Yes. 430 00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:02,320 Is it gonna be called the same as it is now? 431 00:32:02,940 --> 00:32:04,580 Yes, there was this additional 432 00:32:05,420 --> 00:32:06,900 initials that need to be added, right? 433 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:10,500 Yes, because I got received the 434 00:32:10,500 --> 00:32:15,940 or I had a conversation with Doug Martin, he had contacted me and he wanted to make sure 435 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:21,120 something was put in place to make that permanent that could change, you know, years down the road. 436 00:32:21,380 --> 00:32:25,020 Yes, that is a resolution that I need to come before. 437 00:32:25,060 --> 00:32:26,180 That can happen. 438 00:32:26,340 --> 00:32:27,650 Yeah, in order to... 439 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:36,380 I think you can do a resolution but I don't know that you can make a, you know you can name it for now 440 00:32:36,380 --> 00:32:37,360 but I know that you can permanently 441 00:32:38,020 --> 00:32:42,340 bind future city councils from changing the name 442 00:32:42,340 --> 00:32:44,620 like in 50, you know, plus years. 443 00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:47,500 Well, he's concerned he donated $50,000 444 00:32:47,500 --> 00:32:49,980 and he just wants to make sure that name won't change. 445 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:51,820 I think it's reasonable. 446 00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:52,980 Don't know that we can guarantee. 447 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:53,960 It's a reasonable. 448 00:32:54,180 --> 00:32:56,460 I think I can understand why they're asking 449 00:32:56,460 --> 00:32:59,840 but I don't know that the statute's permit 450 00:33:00,420 --> 00:33:05,600 a permanent binding future councils 451 00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:08,280 from not doing something different in the future. 452 00:33:12,990 --> 00:33:15,870 I'll just ask that you check into it and there's something to be done. 453 00:33:16,870 --> 00:33:18,450 I think it should be done. 454 00:33:20,980 --> 00:33:21,980 We're the name can't change. 455 00:33:27,930 --> 00:33:29,130 I know as far as the letter goes. 456 00:33:29,850 --> 00:33:31,290 It was H-gordon in the film. 457 00:33:31,470 --> 00:33:31,970 That's right. 458 00:33:32,370 --> 00:33:34,810 And unfortunately squeezing those two in in the current configuration. 459 00:33:35,070 --> 00:33:37,290 We just said we're going to take it off, clean it up, 460 00:33:37,530 --> 00:33:41,630 and make sure both those so that same H-gordon film at S 461 00:33:41,630 --> 00:33:43,890 is replicated on a plaque. 462 00:33:45,750 --> 00:33:49,570 That way, they're both that way, so get it teed up for them. 463 00:33:50,330 --> 00:33:50,910 Let's see. 464 00:33:51,110 --> 00:33:53,610 So finishing up page number two here. 465 00:33:55,110 --> 00:34:00,650 Different things we've talked about in the past, you know, increasing the opportunity for the city to become. 466 00:34:00,710 --> 00:34:03,570 They have a question on the trailhead section. 467 00:34:03,790 --> 00:34:04,730 You almost said your quote a bit. 468 00:34:04,930 --> 00:34:05,470 Okay, we'll talk. 469 00:34:06,110 --> 00:34:07,470 All right. 470 00:34:07,470 --> 00:34:13,550 which will be the black topping of the parking lot at the end of the 471 00:34:13,550 --> 00:34:18,490 villa in time frame on that. I defer that to the seat. 472 00:34:19,310 --> 00:34:23,170 That's what we just asked for it. We would pay that and I usually believe that 473 00:34:23,170 --> 00:34:26,290 we have already. We have already so put forward for the payment. 474 00:34:26,850 --> 00:34:28,470 Have we cornered that out? 475 00:34:31,270 --> 00:34:33,570 Have an estimate as to how much that would cost. 476 00:34:33,570 --> 00:34:37,110 We estimated it in around, I would say, 5 to 8,000. 477 00:34:37,270 --> 00:34:40,430 That if it's more than that, then how much do we think more? 478 00:34:41,090 --> 00:34:43,130 I'm thinking that's going to be probably closer 479 00:34:43,130 --> 00:34:44,410 to your 40,000, 50,000 range. 480 00:34:44,570 --> 00:34:46,110 Oh, no, that is all of the budget. 481 00:34:47,610 --> 00:34:47,790 OK. 482 00:34:48,030 --> 00:34:50,170 So that was one where I would say between, 483 00:34:50,910 --> 00:34:53,130 you get more competitive vids around like February 484 00:34:53,130 --> 00:34:54,890 Marchtime Frame, like a spring project, 485 00:34:55,190 --> 00:34:57,770 and any type of design work between now and then, 486 00:34:58,390 --> 00:35:01,950 I would suggest contacting, when you all contract, 487 00:35:01,950 --> 00:35:07,730 that was the city engineer to just evaluate to make sure when it is paved whenever that time is 488 00:35:07,730 --> 00:35:11,570 in the curves but there is drainage solutions put in place so you're going to have to 489 00:35:11,570 --> 00:35:15,830 daylight that out beyond the river walk and when you put the curb in you can eliminate the need for 490 00:35:15,830 --> 00:35:21,370 the pilings between the parking lot and there so is there is there any way to utilize the raised 491 00:35:21,370 --> 00:35:24,310 agreements in order to make that happen? 492 00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:32,440 My gut instinct is doubtful but I don't want to rule it out 493 00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:33,720 So let me see. 494 00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:37,440 Yeah, let's check into that piece, see what I can figure out there. 495 00:35:37,740 --> 00:35:42,200 And I would say, when that gets paved by top, 496 00:35:43,180 --> 00:35:46,380 maybe look at a way to design something to hide the dumpster. 497 00:35:49,580 --> 00:35:50,400 It's kind of unsightly. 498 00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:51,920 We're planning to move the dumpster, I believe. 499 00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:55,480 I think, let me double check. 500 00:35:55,780 --> 00:35:58,500 I'm going to check the chain and what we can do with the dumpster. 501 00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:00,820 But we did discuss moving that dumpster away from that side. 502 00:36:06,130 --> 00:36:10,810 So I was mentioned about connectivity to the higher river, so one thing, I think over 503 00:36:10,810 --> 00:36:14,450 the last couple months, the mayor and I have exchanged some emails with the folks at 504 00:36:14,450 --> 00:36:19,990 the higher riverway, given the increase in demand for having kayak launches and opportunities 505 00:36:19,990 --> 00:36:24,250 to get on the higher river is exploring some opportunities of where those could take place. 506 00:36:24,470 --> 00:36:28,810 If we could get it permitted from the core that way, the community doesn't have to drag to 507 00:36:28,810 --> 00:36:32,190 a different city or a different state in Ohio, but you can actually get on the 508 00:36:32,190 --> 00:36:38,310 highway from Lando. So it's still an exploratory phase there. One other future 509 00:36:38,310 --> 00:36:43,830 project here from a business district connection perspective. Since we've 510 00:36:43,830 --> 00:36:48,390 looked at arterial connections with Adela and Traverse Street is the 511 00:36:48,390 --> 00:36:52,870 opportunity to extend the sidewalk connectivity down Traverse Street so as we 512 00:36:52,870 --> 00:36:57,430 continue to design for future faces of the Riverwalk and then down. Let there be 513 00:36:57,430 --> 00:37:05,290 light. It's very dark. As the river will continue to further east towards West 514 00:37:05,290 --> 00:37:09,850 Covington, that if you are along River Road and you get to the intersection of 515 00:37:09,850 --> 00:37:15,130 church, and ashtray, that you know that there's a downtown up here, you're 516 00:37:15,130 --> 00:37:19,670 not just bypassing to go down towards Memorial Park. So another consideration to 517 00:37:21,250 --> 00:37:26,890 evaluate and throughout other ones on here, I will say, I'm sure you mentioned this 518 00:37:26,890 --> 00:37:31,550 at the last council meeting, but the American Discovery Trail and the opportunities to highlight 519 00:37:32,010 --> 00:37:36,070 love, though, as a city that's very walk-on connected to nature and the community. 520 00:37:37,030 --> 00:37:41,330 And other than that, I will say there's any, for many questions, I have to answer any 521 00:37:41,330 --> 00:37:41,730 questions. 522 00:37:45,940 --> 00:37:46,220 One more time. 523 00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:51,980 Well, did you have a quote for the traversed street as well in terms of that asked to complete 524 00:37:51,980 --> 00:37:52,240 that? 525 00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:53,680 Do you have any? 526 00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:54,380 I do not. 527 00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:54,760 Okay. 528 00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:59,160 I'll put that on my list and see if we could get at least some budgetary estimates from 529 00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:05,680 If the ask was for, with it being highlighted, was for us to consider the, okay, so 530 00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:07,020 these are my two wishes projects. 531 00:38:07,100 --> 00:38:07,240 Yeah. 532 00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:08,340 Okay. 533 00:38:08,540 --> 00:38:08,820 Thank you. 534 00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:14,740 I know when we evaluated that, just, as an amateur traffic engineer here, learning under 535 00:38:14,740 --> 00:38:19,740 some of the tutelage of KYTC individuals, that area becomes very challenging if you're 536 00:38:19,740 --> 00:38:26,580 in a car, trying to, I mean, turn left out of traverse, right, good work, yeah, that's 537 00:38:26,580 --> 00:38:41,100 So how do you evaluate that for more walking and bicycling priority version of the vehicular and I think given the public right away that's there just making sure you're not impacting any storm water that will be going down through that way so need opportunity. 538 00:38:42,540 --> 00:38:44,340 Do you want to ask another one? 539 00:38:44,340 --> 00:38:45,000 I see the look. 540 00:38:45,900 --> 00:38:56,880 I know the sign you should put on the fence behind the football stadium, it says rib 541 00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:57,840 of rent comms. 542 00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:00,540 Oh, the band sign you should put there? 543 00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:01,600 Oh, yeah. 544 00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:02,540 From the ribbon cutting? 545 00:39:03,260 --> 00:39:03,380 Yeah. 546 00:39:03,860 --> 00:39:04,020 Peace. 547 00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:05,580 We can take that down. 548 00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:05,960 No. 549 00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:13,020 Well I'm just saying, are there plans to put more that maybe not signed, but to cover 550 00:39:13,020 --> 00:39:15,220 that fence where you can't see into the football field? 551 00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:17,220 So our plan? 552 00:39:17,220 --> 00:39:22,600 I had heard that the school wanted that done, so maybe on their dime, I don't know, 553 00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:24,560 just so you couldn't stand back here and watch football. 554 00:39:24,660 --> 00:39:31,080 Yes, so there was a mesh windscreen that blocked the bus slot from the football stadium. 555 00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:36,460 And when the path went in, it shrunk the opportunity to actually have an effective 556 00:39:36,460 --> 00:39:37,160 windscreen there. 557 00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:41,480 So they took those off and placed them down towards the shop put. 558 00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:42,860 Yeah, they've got a turn. 559 00:39:43,420 --> 00:39:51,420 So they put those there temporarily to discourage tailgating during football games. 560 00:39:52,460 --> 00:39:53,340 So reasonable. 561 00:39:54,260 --> 00:39:59,640 What we're trying to do to mitigate long-term use of the windscreens is to put more landscaping 562 00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:04,960 in along the track there. So we're hoping to install that late September timeframe and 563 00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:08,340 that was a partnership with us in the school to pledge to put some money in. So just 564 00:40:08,340 --> 00:40:13,560 to end the word. I didn't know where that stood. Yes. Good question. And receding as well. 565 00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:18,080 I think all of the seed that was put down. It looked great for the ribbon cutting. Yeah. 566 00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:26,660 Yeah. Oh, yeah. I am. I appreciate it. Thank you. Next up 567 00:40:36,930 --> 00:40:38,410 is a mayor's report and I just 568 00:40:38,410 --> 00:40:39,310 have a short report. 569 00:40:41,610 --> 00:40:45,090 So I do want to say I want to thank Infinite Health's 570 00:40:45,090 --> 00:40:48,970 Productions and let the Heritage Museum for their partnership and work on Saturday's 571 00:40:48,970 --> 00:40:53,910 rail sessions event. It was a great success and I appreciate everyone who helped 572 00:40:53,910 --> 00:40:57,750 make that evening possible or that day possible and everyone who came out to 573 00:40:57,750 --> 00:41:02,090 support it. Please join us for the next rail sessions event on Wednesday September 574 00:41:02,090 --> 00:41:04,470 number 16th from 6 to 9 p.m. 575 00:41:05,810 --> 00:41:10,830 And also I have an update for council and for residents. 576 00:41:12,610 --> 00:41:16,930 Our treasurer Wayne Harris submitted his resignation yesterday was his last day with 577 00:41:16,930 --> 00:41:17,770 the city of Lepo. 578 00:41:18,510 --> 00:41:20,810 Wayne accepted an opportunity closer to home. 579 00:41:20,810 --> 00:41:22,470 He said he couldn't pass it up. 580 00:41:22,970 --> 00:41:26,910 So we appreciate his service to the city and wish him well in his new position. 581 00:41:27,370 --> 00:41:29,330 More information will come at our next meeting. 582 00:41:29,330 --> 00:41:33,470 will we will have some port from Steve Bowie at the moment and we will find 583 00:41:33,470 --> 00:41:38,150 additional support while we move into the new search. And that concludes my 584 00:41:38,150 --> 00:41:45,950 mayor's updates. Next up we have citizens wishing to address mayor and council 585 00:41:45,950 --> 00:41:49,990 public comment is welcome limited to three minutes per citizen please approach the 586 00:41:49,990 --> 00:41:52,590 podium and state where name and address. 587 00:41:58,330 --> 00:42:01,390 All right. Moving on to the next item on 588 00:42:01,390 --> 00:42:05,970 agenda on Finnish business will continue our discussion on a potential bicycle 589 00:42:05,970 --> 00:42:06,390 ordinance. 590 00:42:11,500 --> 00:42:15,060 We shall exact for submitting all of those examples from other cities 591 00:42:15,060 --> 00:42:20,660 that are very helpful. A lot of them were very similar and I know in the past 592 00:42:20,660 --> 00:42:25,620 when we've suggested ordinances for city like when I did the tree ordinance I just 593 00:42:25,620 --> 00:42:29,980 compared a bunch of them and put it in spreadsheet and then highlighted those 594 00:42:29,980 --> 00:42:33,860 things and then there were a couple of other things that were in one city that 595 00:42:33,860 --> 00:42:42,760 there wasn't anything else, had had to do with helmets on riding children like the babies. 596 00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:48,760 And so like people identified those things and then we just could suggest, all of counsel 597 00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:55,200 could suggest and it back to you and just so we could do it independently and then submit 598 00:42:55,200 --> 00:43:00,580 You can submit everything and one lump sum so you could have quick and easy. 599 00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:00,780 Sure. 600 00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:04,660 And do you think, Michelle, you have a few topics. 601 00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:08,800 I think a few topics, just maybe to get your all opinions on some of it. 602 00:43:09,020 --> 00:43:25,040 So I think definitions themselves, I think Zach and I would kind of look at definitions of all these different types of electronic bicycles or anything and kind of confirm which ones are most legally enforceable things like that. 603 00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:30,240 Currently, as we sit here today, the first, I guess, thing we did decide is, what does 604 00:43:30,240 --> 00:43:33,680 everyone's feelings on allowing bicycles on sidewalk as we sit here today? 605 00:43:34,380 --> 00:43:35,040 There's no bicycles. 606 00:43:35,300 --> 00:43:40,820 I think there was definitely some reception to, at least a lot of children on the air, but 607 00:43:40,820 --> 00:43:45,680 what is everyone's feelings on allowing bicycles is, a lot of these ordinances, they are allowing 608 00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:47,020 their bicycles on sidewalks. 609 00:43:48,500 --> 00:43:51,620 Right on sidewalks are you can't ride it on sidewalks. 610 00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:58,300 So I think it's to occur at least standard order said or the new by single bicycles at all 611 00:43:58,300 --> 00:43:59,380 You can't even walk 612 00:43:59,380 --> 00:44:03,120 We can't even walk it down the side, right? I don't even know we have an exception 613 00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:04,740 We have an exception for your children 614 00:44:04,740 --> 00:44:07,580 I don't think there's an exception for children, I don't know why it's like that 615 00:44:07,580 --> 00:44:11,020 And I think that's important for 616 00:44:11,020 --> 00:44:15,280 We should make sure that we have a right bike, we don't not want them in the street 617 00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:17,980 Right, I think we need to consider that 618 00:44:17,980 --> 00:44:18,260 Right 619 00:44:18,260 --> 00:44:22,760 And I mean a couple of them were like 12 and under which I think is a little 620 00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:28,460 still a little too high probably. We have kids on large bikes by the time they're 621 00:44:28,460 --> 00:44:34,420 12. I was thinking maybe eight like that puts them in the second grade and by 622 00:44:34,420 --> 00:44:39,560 that point they should be fairly stable on a bike. Yeah how do we feel about eight 623 00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:47,320 ears as a range? So generally would be no bikes on sidewalk when no no mobility 624 00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:50,740 or related devices, except for, of course, ADA compliance. 625 00:44:51,020 --> 00:44:57,300 No, when you say no box on sidewalks, if you're on oak street, you're on linden street. 626 00:44:57,660 --> 00:44:58,080 You can't walk. 627 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:12,700 You can't ride your bike on a sidewalk right now. So I think it sounds like there's you all favor basically keeping the bike from the vision in but allowing young children to ride their bikes. 628 00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:35,000 And then I think there was a lot of service helmets. I think most of these usually are requiring children out of your 16 or under under 18 to wear helmets. And I think yet the idea if you're if you do have a bike that allows you to 629 00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:38,800 to have your child with them that child needs to have a helmet as well. 630 00:45:42,700 --> 00:45:49,520 As far as these parks, trails, multi-use paths, I did ask that will Weber, Dayton, I think, 631 00:45:49,660 --> 00:45:55,360 does have, they did for strife, I think, do some restrictions so they did put some signage 632 00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:57,800 up there about restricting a little bit on their path. 633 00:45:57,980 --> 00:46:04,040 I think it's mostly that level two, level three, I'm sorry, electric bike, which is essentially 634 00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:08,300 the equivalent of the mo pet, I think that probably, and I think being consistent with him 635 00:46:08,300 --> 00:46:09,100 would make sense. 636 00:46:13,850 --> 00:46:18,870 Is my understanding correct that currently we do not allow any bikes? 637 00:46:23,240 --> 00:46:28,820 Well, we don't allow, it says it now, but they're in the park, so it's hard for them to 638 00:46:28,820 --> 00:46:32,740 allow bicycles to be done on that river walk. 639 00:46:33,260 --> 00:46:37,340 That is the other than the essentially your, yeah, one that's essentially motor vehicles. 640 00:46:37,340 --> 00:46:43,300 And that's the other thing we say none, but kids write bikes on the skate park, which is fine. 641 00:46:43,740 --> 00:46:46,040 So I think we need to revise it to say that they can be on the skate park. 642 00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:48,460 Yeah, but that's technically a sidewalk, so they would be in the park. 643 00:46:48,460 --> 00:46:49,800 Well, it's at any park. 644 00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:51,380 Oh, where is the park? 645 00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:52,260 Yeah, it's okay. 646 00:46:52,540 --> 00:46:52,560 Yeah. 647 00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:58,960 So I think we lift it for the park and for the river walk, for the, at least for the skate park. 648 00:46:59,200 --> 00:46:59,280 Okay. 649 00:47:01,620 --> 00:47:07,740 Yeah, right now it says, um, new advice that go on public park playground play live. 650 00:47:08,060 --> 00:47:10,900 We're taught a lot except for on a roadway or in the parking area. 651 00:47:10,900 --> 00:47:13,260 So we let them on this skate park. 652 00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:17,180 Well, they dropped down off the street and ride right right on in through. 653 00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:19,100 So, um, 654 00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:24,380 it's hard to force it on how you're going to force it. 655 00:47:24,420 --> 00:47:24,780 I don't know. 656 00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:28,500 I think we've mainly only, I guess. 657 00:47:28,500 --> 00:47:39,580 Yeah, yeah, I would only, unless someone's acting dangerously or I would imagine, I wonder what year was that ordinance amended or passed? 658 00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:41,580 1996. Interesting. 659 00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:44,640 That's been a while. 660 00:47:44,900 --> 00:47:47,780 Okay. All right. So we definitely need to... 661 00:47:47,780 --> 00:47:50,680 So you're saying on the river wall, no level three. 662 00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:51,600 Correct. 663 00:47:52,140 --> 00:47:53,520 How do you determine a level three? 664 00:47:54,140 --> 00:47:55,440 There will be a definition there. 665 00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:59,980 And at a level three, that is the type of electronic vibe that you actually do have to register 666 00:47:59,980 --> 00:48:00,480 with the OT. 667 00:48:01,060 --> 00:48:07,780 So it has certain functions that it's not exactly a mo pad, but it's equivalent to a 668 00:48:07,780 --> 00:48:12,100 mo pad where you do, you should be 16 years old, I think you should be licensed. 669 00:48:13,020 --> 00:48:15,760 Those people are supposed to think you can kind of speak to that as well. 670 00:48:15,860 --> 00:48:16,180 These are. 671 00:48:19,580 --> 00:48:19,760 Yeah. 672 00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:22,160 Oh, there's something on the bike itself. 673 00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:27,580 Yeah, so I think there it really comes from I think a federal statute kind of where these definitions are coming from the state 674 00:48:27,580 --> 00:48:29,900 Has not adopted them right as separate definitions 675 00:48:29,900 --> 00:48:36,020 But I think the cities are getting their definitions from the federal government and then if you tweak your level one or level two 676 00:48:36,020 --> 00:48:41,300 Evike and make it to where it functions like a level three then then you would you're supposed to register it as well 677 00:48:41,300 --> 00:48:46,200 And isn't there a speed limit to on the level three don't they go like 35? 678 00:48:46,500 --> 00:48:49,600 They can go like 28 six out in my mind 679 00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:54,720 they can go through the past. Do you have a speed limit on that for level three? Do you know? 680 00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:56,040 Okay. 681 00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:03,940 So I know it was mentioned about like permitting or registration. Zach and I have looked 682 00:49:03,940 --> 00:49:09,480 at that. We have not found any other city that has registered. The golf carts are different because 683 00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:13,440 you have a specific care rest that lets you permit. So I do think that might be something to 684 00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:18,660 bring to the general assembly. This is kind of a problem that might be something for people to 685 00:49:18,660 --> 00:49:22,100 advocate for them to allow, to get that authorization to allow. 686 00:49:22,240 --> 00:49:24,500 But I don't think we could, other than the level for 687 00:49:24,500 --> 00:49:28,460 I don't think you're going to get registration on a local level 688 00:49:28,460 --> 00:49:31,340 until we get some sort of statutory permission. 689 00:49:32,060 --> 00:49:35,140 So you can have a golf cart on the riverwalk? 690 00:49:36,140 --> 00:49:36,300 Please. 691 00:49:37,220 --> 00:49:37,480 For now. 692 00:49:38,020 --> 00:49:39,600 I don't think I'll address that with a golf cart. 693 00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:40,580 I don't think we've addressed that. 694 00:49:40,900 --> 00:49:41,420 I don't think that. 695 00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:43,560 And if we want to amend, we should update that. 696 00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:45,540 I put that currently we have the, 697 00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:48,480 what 698 00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:53,400 I want things, yeah, that are only unlocked during events so that we can get 699 00:49:54,900 --> 00:50:00,340 performers through or food trucks, former disease vehicles, but you should not be able to access it 700 00:50:00,980 --> 00:50:05,140 unless you've really went all through to try to get back on it, but I think 701 00:50:05,980 --> 00:50:10,000 I think we're fine there. I don't know. What if we would like to amend the cyber board? 702 00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:12,420 I'm just asking a question. I don't know the answer on me. 703 00:50:12,420 --> 00:50:19,440 Yeah, I think we probably want to check with low-weather and see what the other city I don't think it makes sense to allow it 704 00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:23,520 Just on one portion of the trail. I think it will make me 705 00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:29,380 Yeah, so we can check on that I brought it up as because the registration question was brought up 706 00:50:29,380 --> 00:50:34,540 We can permit the golf carts because there's a statute that says we can permit the golf carts on a Kentucky level 707 00:50:34,540 --> 00:50:35,920 They have care as for garden 708 00:50:36,940 --> 00:50:39,060 And then just the other thing is just penalties 709 00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:44,460 Some cities do the civil fines and then you can appeal it to your code enforcement board. 710 00:50:44,860 --> 00:50:48,920 Some cities make it a criminal violation or a misdemeanor and then they get cited to court. 711 00:50:50,980 --> 00:50:55,820 There are so many cities that are holding the parents responsible, and then some of the cities 712 00:50:55,820 --> 00:51:00,700 who are trying to impound the vehicles, the bicycles until the fines are paid, which is kind 713 00:51:00,700 --> 00:51:01,520 of thoughts on. 714 00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:07,440 How would that work since we don't have a code enforcement or joint code enforcement board? 715 00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:12,740 Okay, so this would be like what's PDF this is something that the other cities are sending or they're comfortable 716 00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:15,020 Okay, not taking on as in peel 717 00:51:15,020 --> 00:51:20,820 And then also need to type of accounting attorney's office see what their comfortability is with 718 00:51:20,820 --> 00:51:22,700 Well, I get there's some preference on 719 00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:25,720 On what but I think it is kind of in the northern Bulgaria 720 00:51:25,720 --> 00:51:27,780 It's kind of 50-50 feet shot and wet 721 00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:30,380 Which ones which one is being used 722 00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:31,320 Right 723 00:51:31,980 --> 00:51:33,000 Is that something? 724 00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:35,260 Council would do we think 725 00:51:35,260 --> 00:51:38,020 like, civil or criminal would be something we would, 726 00:51:38,180 --> 00:51:39,920 I think civil would probably be more 727 00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:41,380 our criminal justice system. 728 00:51:41,500 --> 00:51:44,060 To be not my friends, but I just want to add that to it. 729 00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:50,600 And as far as if they are, 730 00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:53,980 if you're riding your bicycle in the street, 731 00:51:53,980 --> 00:51:55,600 you still have to have a track that was those things 732 00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:57,720 will always, right, can always be cited 733 00:51:57,720 --> 00:51:58,920 at criminal court if you're speeding 734 00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:00,060 or if you're running red lights, 735 00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:01,860 not using your proper signals, 736 00:52:02,020 --> 00:52:03,080 those types of things with storming. 737 00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:08,400 In the last meeting, the mayor brought up the idea 738 00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:14,740 of doing like a registry with the city would that be for as we're talking about 739 00:52:14,740 --> 00:52:19,780 levels one two and three. I don't think we can do. I think we would I think we 740 00:52:19,780 --> 00:52:24,500 probably need to care us to authorize the city do that kind of. Okay. That doesn't 741 00:52:24,500 --> 00:52:28,640 get it because it does with the golf. Okay. Thank you. Sorry. I'm a suffer. No worries. 742 00:52:30,140 --> 00:52:33,680 Those were kind of the topics. Zach and I highlighted. Zach, did you did I miss 743 00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:34,060 anything? 744 00:52:38,940 --> 00:52:44,160 Or did you all have any other thoughts on things that you would like to see included 745 00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:50,040 based off of? I think our plan is also to talk to Chief Beck, probably Shane and Jamie 746 00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:55,100 to see if they have any other issues with their senior city, if they think we can be concluded, 747 00:52:55,240 --> 00:52:59,880 come back with a first reading for you all. And then we can always do, if there's some tweaks 748 00:52:59,880 --> 00:53:02,580 that you guys want to have made, we can always come back and do a second first reading. 749 00:53:02,580 --> 00:53:02,980 Thank you. 750 00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:06,180 No giant brush on this, I don't think, but. 751 00:53:06,380 --> 00:53:09,460 And also something that we discussed, Michelle, 752 00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:13,020 is that maybe we can have her to further our officer 753 00:53:13,020 --> 00:53:15,440 to school, start giving some presentations, 754 00:53:15,860 --> 00:53:17,960 just giving some information about e-bikes 755 00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:22,820 and how to, you know, how they should be behaving on their bikes. 756 00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:25,920 And in what areas they should be getting off of their bikes 757 00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:28,560 and walking it, just for safety purposes. 758 00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:31,660 To ensure that I'm sure he may already be doing something 759 00:53:31,660 --> 00:53:38,140 But I think just having a conversation that maybe we should do more of those or at all or not I 760 00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:43,100 Remember having that the those type of officers come in and give these presentations 761 00:53:43,100 --> 00:53:51,100 And I was a kid on bike safety and how to behave on the road and just just to try and give that information out to the kids at the school 762 00:53:51,100 --> 00:53:59,240 And I think to be fair once we passed the ordinance that I think it should be presented to the like in the forum to the school so that they know 763 00:53:59,240 --> 00:54:00,500 So, I think it's subchanged. 764 00:54:00,700 --> 00:54:00,800 Right. 765 00:54:01,140 --> 00:54:01,500 Exactly. 766 00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:06,240 And I think I did like, I think it was the fourth Thomas ordinance they did have at the 767 00:54:06,240 --> 00:54:11,020 first, your first offense is a warning and if it's a child who's doing it, you send 768 00:54:11,020 --> 00:54:14,740 that warning to the parent, you send them a copy of an ordinance, I think that's good education 769 00:54:14,740 --> 00:54:19,940 for the community as well, do that and I do think Alexander I think it's a pretty good 770 00:54:19,940 --> 00:54:24,180 FAQ they put up on their website that I think would be nice to do that you can put it in. 771 00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:28,260 They put it more in plain language and the ordinance language to help it help people understand 772 00:54:28,260 --> 00:54:29,540 and what the new rules are. 773 00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:32,200 First warning is always appropriate. 774 00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:35,700 And then I guess it was their thoughts on 775 00:54:35,700 --> 00:54:38,080 some of these cities are going to impound the bicycle 776 00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:40,940 for two hours, until the civil five state. 777 00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:42,540 I check with Chief Beck, he does think 778 00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:45,500 if the city wanted to go that route, they do have room 779 00:54:46,020 --> 00:54:49,020 for that, but what is your thoughts on? 780 00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:52,300 I think we have to, I think at one point, 781 00:54:53,220 --> 00:54:55,780 you're gonna have somebody that's going to push the limit. 782 00:54:55,780 --> 00:55:03,080 And that's just that there's no other option, but I think we have to be careful about how that number that we pick 783 00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:09,160 Yeah, so that it doesn't get so punitive that the kids are afraid to get on the right right 784 00:55:10,020 --> 00:55:13,160 What do you think a good number of warnings would be before even addressing? 785 00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:16,900 I think I know one it I feel like it was one work now all the ones are running together in my head 786 00:55:16,900 --> 00:55:19,200 I think one of them said I guess it's you know 787 00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:28,200 I want you to take your 4th time, we're going to kind of take it and you don't get it back until you've had your fines. 788 00:55:28,720 --> 00:55:31,580 And what type of fines do we think that that amount should be? 789 00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:36,940 They were the ones I've read for small, like 50, 25, 50 is what I thought. 790 00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:37,620 It's still appropriate. 791 00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:42,740 You can kind of level it up like you do with code in general for the enforcement. 792 00:55:42,740 --> 00:55:43,020 Okay, 793 00:55:51,940 --> 00:55:58,500 I don't have any other topics written down on us anyone else had topics that they saw they would like to talk about 794 00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:00,520 So 795 00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:07,380 I guess we'll continue this conversation we'll pull together what we talked about tonight and we get a little bit more at the next 796 00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:10,340 Next meeting all right 797 00:56:13,460 --> 00:56:17,680 All right, so next on agenda's new business of which we have none and 798 00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:23,540 Then next on the agenda following that is announcements and I will start with this gracious 799 00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:26,760 Mr. Ziegler? 800 00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:27,240 Love you. 801 00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:27,860 All right. 802 00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:29,800 This is Terry DeVar. 803 00:56:30,100 --> 00:56:30,900 Thank you. 804 00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:34,620 September 9th is the next walking clock. 805 00:56:35,060 --> 00:56:35,280 All right. 806 00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:40,500 We're going to switch things up a little bit this coming time. 807 00:56:41,900 --> 00:56:44,460 So walk-talk and trash will start at 5 o'clock. 808 00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:49,040 And one of the events we're going to do is go down to the riverbank 809 00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:52,520 and dig up some of the pottery that's down there to try and 810 00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:59,800 do some kind of project in the future yeah we're gonna do 5 to 630 location that 811 00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:04,600 we're going to meet has still not been determined so watch Facebook for 812 00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:10,640 that and then by the way in bloom we'll start at 630 and rental 730 and that 813 00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:18,480 location has not been chosen yet so watch Facebook this got ready yeah I had two 814 00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:25,980 questions. The first, I wanted to just circle back on Wayne. Can I ask why council 815 00:57:25,980 --> 00:57:31,700 wasn't notified if yesterday was his last day when he resigned? I'm notified now 816 00:57:31,700 --> 00:57:36,780 of the council meeting. When did he resign? He sent his resignation last week on Monday. 817 00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:43,600 Okay. Was there a reason we waited to inform council tonight? I'm just asking if there's 818 00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:45,060 This is when you're all convening today. 819 00:57:45,300 --> 00:57:46,160 Oh, gotta be the information. 820 00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:48,480 Okay, I was wasn't sure, like with an email 821 00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:51,080 in terms of transparency and open communication, 822 00:57:51,220 --> 00:57:53,440 it's a critical position for councils, 823 00:57:53,660 --> 00:57:56,840 so it's important to know when a position like that 824 00:57:56,840 --> 00:57:58,580 is vacant, so just curious. 825 00:57:59,460 --> 00:58:03,080 And then speaking of some just like important decisions 826 00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:04,720 that council will have to make, 827 00:58:04,860 --> 00:58:08,580 I'm curious if we have any updates on the tax rate. 828 00:58:09,020 --> 00:58:12,220 Because my understanding is we have to vote on that 829 00:58:12,220 --> 00:58:13,120 by the end of September. 830 00:58:13,500 --> 00:58:13,520 Right. 831 00:58:14,040 --> 00:58:18,060 We've just recently received that, so we will be having the discussions at the next 832 00:58:18,060 --> 00:58:18,620 council meeting. 833 00:58:18,940 --> 00:58:24,760 I think Lori has, I think, put the process in to have it advertised so that way it can 834 00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:31,860 be discussed at the first reading of the first second reading to the two September meetings. 835 00:58:31,860 --> 00:58:31,960 Okay. 836 00:58:32,220 --> 00:58:33,000 Which I think is common. 837 00:58:33,120 --> 00:58:36,420 Most cities do both of the first and second reading in September. 838 00:58:36,900 --> 00:58:37,080 Okay. 839 00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:39,300 You say you received the information already? 840 00:58:39,600 --> 00:58:39,800 Mm-hmm. 841 00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:41,100 Could you send that out? 842 00:58:41,100 --> 00:58:42,460 We haven't done it out yet. 843 00:58:42,660 --> 00:58:43,220 Can you? 844 00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:46,560 But Lori, she is out of training this week, 845 00:58:46,680 --> 00:58:48,880 so once she's back, we'll get better first. 846 00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:49,560 Should I have Monday? 847 00:58:50,220 --> 00:58:50,300 Yep. 848 00:58:50,540 --> 00:58:50,840 Okay, thank you. 849 00:58:51,600 --> 00:58:53,720 Yeah, the reason that I asked is just in case 850 00:58:53,720 --> 00:58:56,740 we do need to have some special meetings on that. 851 00:58:57,020 --> 00:58:58,680 I just wanted to let council know. 852 00:58:58,780 --> 00:59:00,420 I'll be traveling a lot in September. 853 00:59:00,900 --> 00:59:03,300 I'll be here for the first council meeting in September 854 00:59:04,120 --> 00:59:07,720 and then I'll be here through the 23rd 855 00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:10,700 and then I will be gone the 24th through the 3rd. 856 00:59:10,700 --> 00:59:13,560 So if needed for special meetings, 857 00:59:14,200 --> 00:59:16,860 I would ask that we do that before the 23rd, 858 00:59:16,860 --> 00:59:18,260 if we need to put anything on the calendar. 859 00:59:18,500 --> 00:59:20,500 So that's why I asked him to try to be proactive 860 00:59:20,500 --> 00:59:23,440 with the schedule if we needed to have multiple sessions 861 00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:25,300 in September given that we're at the end of August 862 00:59:25,300 --> 00:59:25,920 and haven't. 863 00:59:26,160 --> 00:59:28,300 I don't think that there's any additional meetings on this. 864 00:59:28,500 --> 00:59:29,840 I think we'll be fine. 865 00:59:30,220 --> 00:59:31,460 We'll have the presentation. 866 00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:33,960 You should have be prepared in the ordinance 867 00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:35,780 to have an explaining correct. 868 00:59:36,280 --> 00:59:37,320 Yes, you'll get it. 869 00:59:37,320 --> 00:59:39,680 Lori had asked us to have the ordinance 870 00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:48,920 is ready to read at the first meeting in September and then I don't know if she's, she does not 871 00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:52,900 I'm not giving us the dates for the ad yet, but I'm sure she is working on that. 872 00:59:53,600 --> 00:59:55,620 All right. 873 00:59:56,300 --> 00:59:57,160 Let's reach out to my team. 874 01:00:02,220 --> 01:00:29,740 We'll need to adjourn the move into the next, right, or we have to read that out. We have to read that out, so we've got to can adjourn you to begin. All right. So we have an executive session pursuant to CARE S-61.810 subsections G for discussions between a public agency and a representative of the business entity and discussions concerning a specific proposal. If open discussions would jeopardize the sighting, retention, expansion, or upgrading of the business. 875 01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:33,380 So I would just need a motion to move into executive session. 876 01:00:44,230 --> 01:00:45,230 Thank you. 877 01:00:45,550 --> 01:00:46,970 I have a second. 878 01:00:48,730 --> 01:00:51,370 All right. All in favor, to move to executive session, say aye. 879 01:00:52,390 --> 01:00:53,070 All opposed, nay. 880 01:00:54,030 --> 01:00:58,330 We will now be moving into an executive session, so everyone must exit. 881 01:00:58,650 --> 01:00:59,410 Chambers, please. 882 01:00:59,410 --> 01:00:59,630 Yes. 883 01:00:59,890 --> 01:01:01,850 Thank you. 884 01:01:02,250 --> 01:01:02,790 Good. 885 01:01:03,250 --> 01:01:03,650 All right.