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I mean, this will be looked at by the board, obviously.

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So right Where I was going was, those are already,

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yeah, this sheet's already baked in.

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We just need to finally

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Make a decision.

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Decision. It just say yes. Just say yes or no,

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or maybe, or whatever.

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Yeah. Alright, cool. I, I'm all set.

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Does anyone else have any other

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Nope. No, I'm good. No, I'm good.

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Thank you, chief. That's it.

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Thank you, chief. Yeah, chief, good to see you.

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Do you want to stay? No, no. I did not. We

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Still got more.

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We got plenty of things. If you

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wanna sit back there and watch.

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No. Well, I, I, I wanted to budget for re

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for re reclassifications specifically

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the recreation director.

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because we, there's been questions from fin com about,

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about funding the, the, the finance director

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and also the, the Munis improvements

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Dispatcher Discuss that's in here.

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Next. All set? Yep. Yes.

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Seeing your chief, the finale

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have dinner. Can I,

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No, you have to stay a couple hours.

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See you, chief. You still

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Got a good night, chief?

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Oh, boy. Where are we at now?

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Well, if you wanted to just, you know,

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touch on the recreation director, then you guys can,

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can vote on the reclassification

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requests and the new positions.

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There's also a, a reclassification

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on the classification plan for

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the finance director position, which Carrie can speak to.

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And then article 18 is, is the, the Munis improvements.

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and Carrie had spoken to expenditures in fiscal 26,

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but I just wanted to get on the record as

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to, you know, what we've been doing.

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to put Carrie on the spot here,

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but she's, she's been doing yeoman's work.

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Okay. So where do you wanna start

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Do you wanna start with Munis on the article 18?

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Sure. Okay.

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So from a, from a payroll HR standpoint,

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we are kind of, we're still plugging away.

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and sent out our final paper paycheck last week,

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April 3rd for the town employees.

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and sending out the final paper payroll

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for the school department this week. Long time coming.

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about 7 25, 7 50, 50. Depend

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of paper folded and put into an

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Every, it's not a physical check.

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We require direct deposit. There's a few, a handful

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of people that get a physical check,

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but it's at, they call it, it's a advice.

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Like it's your direct, it's a copy

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of basically your check in direct deposit. I

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Get it. Every month. You get it

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Yeah. Right. Exactly. So there you go.

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It goes right in the shredder. That was the last,

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That's right. It goes right in the

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That was the last month.

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However, we couldn't get rid of those paper statements

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until we had another avenue for individuals

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to view their payroll information and access the W2s.

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it's probably been about a month now, five weeks.

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So employees can go in, you can make some updates to,

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you know, w fours, your state taxes, you know,

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address information, contact information.

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We are just about done with finalizing accruals

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for the entire town.

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This is not the school side.

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but on, on the townside, we have been tracking accruals

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for all departments, pretty much by the honor system.

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we do have some full-time employees

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in Munis that are tracked properly.

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for instance, the fire department, they're, they're sick.

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And vacation was never tracked in Munis.

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It's always been pen and paper.

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I was always told it can never, it can't be done.

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But with ITP

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and the Munis consultants that we have,

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we actually had a meeting on Monday morning.

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Sherry had sent over all her numbers,

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and we have set up accrual tables.

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but we're, we're, we're gonna be hopefully very soon.

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So personal time ev everything by July one will be

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automated and accessible

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through the employee self-service platform.

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Next year. W2s, we won't be mailing out W2s.

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You'll go to the platform and view them or print them.

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I think probably most people are, are doing that. It's 2026.

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the biggest improvement we've made since the last time.

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Isn't that, isn't that required though,

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Required you change That to be mailed in the W2 forms?

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No. No. Required,

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No, no.

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It's not required. You have to furnish them

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by the end of January. You don't have to mail them.

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How are you furnishing them? How? Online?

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Online to active employees? I mean, well, well,

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That's terrible.

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I can't believe I can, I can't believe how how this,

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this world, what, what it's coming to.

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Anyways, that's, I'm

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Just, so some, you, you, you will get some w2s

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that you will have to mail out.

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But everybody that's in an active employee has access

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to the ESS system will go online and get them.

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It's the state does it, I mean,

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the state's pro the biggest employer in

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Massachusetts, I understand, understand.

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So, yeah. So we've, we're, we're working with ESS.

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We have a couple. We have even a little, little help desk.

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Tara and Anita, if they have,

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if people have issues logging in, they go to them.

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Kelly, like I said, we're working on accruals,

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we're working on job class specific to positions.

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So when we have specific job classes,

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when you enter somebody, you have certain object in origin

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and accounting, you know, accounts that their payroll

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and everything gets charged to.

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So we're setting that up. Different pay codes.

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I mean, we've, we've kind of just been flying by the seat

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of our pants, trying to get things done.

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But we're, we're really trying

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to utilize Munis, you know, for what it's for.

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So job classes are, we're working on,

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and we're working also.

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We had our, we actually have a meeting tomorrow,

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our second meeting to start looking at doing

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time entry, like time entry and getting rid of paper.

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So we've gotten rid of the paper

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with advices, giving to employees.

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Now we're trying to get rid of the paper

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that we go every week.

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Comes through each department or biweekly now with payroll.

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So literally we get paper sheets. I, I review payroll.

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Literally. I sit there

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and I review payroll on paper every week, every Monday.

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Biweekly takes me, takes me about a good half, almost,

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almost a whole day, half day, depending on how,

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how many issues there are.

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So we have have our second meeting tomorrow to move towards

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that, to just direct time entry for a department like mine,

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like Marc's, it'll be easy.

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There's only a few employees

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and your pay doesn't really change.

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I'm not sure how far we'll be able to get with them.

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or, you know, doing payroll, then that's huge.

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So that's kind of an update where we're at on the Munis

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for payroll and, and HR functions

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anyhow. Have questions on any of that?

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Well, and Mr. Mr. Chairman, so, you know, so the,

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you know, the, the article would, would fund more

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of this great work.

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That's, that's, I mean, we've, from

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where we were four years ago and, and, and,

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and longer than that to where we are now,

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it's, it's unbelievable

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Made, right.

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The goal is, one of the big goals to get

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to is personal action actions, automating them.

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But you can't automate a personal action that's, you know,

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somebody gets promoted or you get a reclassification

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or you get a step increase.

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We can't automate that to all the system.

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So until all the information prior to that is built

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and in place and accurate.

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So that's kind of the end goal.

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'cause now those are paper too, you know, so it's, it's,

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it's really kind of, everything's building to

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that, to that process.

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And we're hoping to do more in ESS right now.

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It's, you know, view only right now.

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We would like to have people, you know, you can go in

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and request time off through ESS, that kind of thing.

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We're just, we're, we're not, we're not there yet,

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but we're, we're in view only.

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And you can make some minor, minor changes.

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So it's a, it's a good platform.

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So it's kind of like, Tyler sounds good when Tyler has it.

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'cause it's like, for me, I think I told you once

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before, I can see my accrual of sick time.

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I can see, I can go in on the platform

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and request time off, see what I have

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for vacation time, right. And

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All those things.

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Right. They can see balances.

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Right now they're not, not every single balance is accurate.

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Like I said, it's, we're, we're just finalizing that

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with a couple depart couple people.

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Right now we're in actually really good shape.

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You can't request it quite yet,

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and you can't see what you're

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using. But we're gonna get there.

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Good. Yep.

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Does anyone have any questions,

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Mr.

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Chairman? Is there a dollar figure attached to that? Or

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A hundred thousand.

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A hundred thousand. Okay. So we see. Okay. Thank you.

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Okay, Well if we're good with that,

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One of that's request one of the, one of the re no,

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not on Munis, but I know one of the reclassifications was

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for the finance director position.

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It's just kind of a formality

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because the position was approved, had

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to be approved at town meeting,

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and then it had to go through the DOR for approval,

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though we had to wait the 90 days.

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I think it just kind of got lost in translation

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that we never put deposition on the classification

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plan where it belongs.

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So we're requesting to have

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that position put on the classification plan as an M seven,

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which is along with the DPW director

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and the assistant town administrator HR director.

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So again, it's just a formality.

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Okay. And you guys would've to vote on that, right?

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You, you, you, you vote on the

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classification changes, all that.

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So it has to come to this board.

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Okay. And then

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what else did we want to talk about?

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Oh, just the, that's not included in the,

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the budget for the July one though.

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So that would be a vote. That would be something

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that they would have to, the M

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Vote separately.

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The M seven doesn't have any, any costs associated with it.

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It's just literally putting it on the,

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on the classification plan. Right?

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It's not right. Right. Yeah.

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I mean, technically that position

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and with the salary that Cheryl was offered,

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it was, it would've been off.

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That's that. Well, actually it wasn't, it wasn't off

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that scale, but it wasn't an exact amount of, one

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of the steps on the M seven compensation scale.

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So technically she was off step a little bit,

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but it's still in line.

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The annual salary's still in line with that, those,

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those six steps in the compensation scale.

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Okay. Yeah, We're good. I'm good with it.

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Anything else? And then just if Mr.

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Chairman, if anybody, I just wanna make sure we touched on

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the, the recreation director again, just

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because it's been a subject of some discussion and,

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and there's a couple, couple articles and,

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and the warrant articles that deal

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with the recreation department.

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So,

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So you want it, so Just touch on

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Yeah. Where, where we are with it.

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So the recreation director position

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has obviously been something that we've talked about

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for, for quite some time.

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And, you know, that we, we desperately need here.

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At one point, I think we, this board talked about maybe not,

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not approving it, not funding it way back when we started

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early on the budget season.

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But I know it's, it's, you know,

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I know it's sounds like hopefully it'll get approved and,

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and move forward by this board.

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We are currently, we have a job description in draft

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that I've been working with Sean McBride on,

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or not, not me personally.

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Lisa's really been doing the work on,

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on updating the job description and working with Sean.

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We are, we would like to, you know,

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have this position ready to go, you know, now

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and start posting and, and, and hiring for it.

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But we just don't have the funding. So we have to wait.

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I talked to Sean, I talked

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to Mark about posting this position, hopefully in,

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in the beginning of May, anticipating

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that this will be passed and approved.

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And then, you know, shortly

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after town meeting, we would have, you know,

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hopefully have applicants

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and a good applicant pool to start doing interviews

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and have somebody in place, you know, by July one for when,

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you know, when we have the funding.

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So again, I think, I know there's been some,

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there's been some talk about, you know, the, the camp, the

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before school after school program.

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What are we gonna do after, you know, Debbie,

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retired long-term recreation employee.

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And certainly, you know, that that job is,

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is more than just an admin.

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So I think this person coming in will be a big help to

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that, to that department.

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And, and we need some knowledge there

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and can help kind of start the process along, you know, even

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what we're doing within payroll, you know, automate some

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of these things online enrollment, you know, it,

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it's very archaic the way that we do things.

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And I think without somebody in charge,

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it's very difficult to get these things done.

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So I think a recreation director can really, can really help

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with things like that and, and support, you know, the admin

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and, and Paul and the, the, the, the seasonal staff

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that's there and ensure that all the compliance is met.

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So we're, we're in good shape.

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Like I said, we have a, we have a

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job description ready to go.

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We have it listed as an M two

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and I don't know if you have any other,

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other questions on that.

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You know, I, one thing it's on the budget, it has it at

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a higher rate than the cost that's in recreation now.

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On the new position requests, is that up to that amount

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and it's 75 on the

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budget, on the level two?

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I would, I think that's right.

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'cause the, the way that the, the way

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that the budget works is, is it, it breaks it down.

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So if it's a $75,000 salary, it'll show us like 67.

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And then the rest of it is, is populated with,

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it breaks down like the value of, of the vacation time.

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The value of the three personal days.

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Okay. Yeah, no, I,

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I just remember seeing 75 the last time we were looking at

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the budget and it was still 62 7 here.

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Yeah. All right. That's all for me.

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I, I, I think, does anyone have any comments on anything

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Related to that or Related to that? No,

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I saw the job description this week,

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but I know I had some comments that I had sent, I think

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to Marc, but they seem to be

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contemplated in there in terms of like the roles and stuff.

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'cause I think a big component in, in

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that is gonna be standing up programming

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that we currently don't have.

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You know, we have and, and,

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and that programming, you know, when people hear,

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rec director might think it's all youth,

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but that's, you know,

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it might be geared more towards youth, but that's not the case.

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It could be senior program. It, it could be whatever.

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But you know, when we have kids in town

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that are playing basketball, for example, in other towns

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because we have nothing for them, that's pretty bad.

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Yeah.

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Yeah. I think this can be a start of

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where we should be. Right? And,

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And you're not gonna get there day one.

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No. Right. But we have glaring gaps that we try,

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we take care of everybody, right.

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Or at least we try to, right?

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We have programs for seniors, veterans that, you know,

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children are a big part of this town. So,

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Yeah, I mean, I think that this is a big position.

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I mean, this person is gonna come in

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and basically be starting from scratch basically.

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Okay. There, there's, there's obviously a camp,

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there's before and after school.

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But I think that, you know, if we can model, like some

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of the surrounding towns do,

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and I'll just use Wilbraham as an example.

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'cause I think they do an excellent job.

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I'm one resident in Ludlow that's gone

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to Wilbraham for sports for my kids.

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'cause Ludlow doesn't offer them.

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I've done other things in Wilbraham.

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'cause Ludlow doesn't offer them. So it's, it's, you know,

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they, they communicate, they get programs out there.

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They have so many different, so many different programs.

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They have trail runs, they have, they have,

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you know, pickleball lessons.

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They have a, a bazillion things for you. They do.

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They just have so many options

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that I think it's really a model.

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I, you know, I think we, we should, we should go to,

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you know, you can sign up for any sports, you know, right

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through the same online platform right now.

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You wanna play soccer, you gotta go LYSA,

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you wanna play football, you gotta go

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to the youth football association.

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You wanna go basketball, you're dealing with it.

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It's, it's very difficult

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and very unorganized for, for parents.

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And I'm, I'm saying that from experience

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and I'm, so I'm sure a lot of you have been there too.

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We've all had the experience at one point. But,

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So I, I think this is gonna be a, a large, a large job

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for somebody undertaking. So I think, well

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The, the, the recreation department in

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Wilbraham is very high.

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Their budget, it's probably up to 800,000

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A year.

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Probably didn't start that way though. It's

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A lot.

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It's gotta be close. 'cause when I was, when I was there,

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it was already almost 504 something.

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But it speaks for itself.

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Well, absolutely. I'm not, it really does, you know,

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I'm not But I'm just saying let's realize

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that the budget will get there.

435
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Yeah. 'cause not one person's gonna be able to do all

436
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No, no, no, no, no.

437
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I'm saying as to model it system

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Is that, you know, just, I started in HR 12 years ago.

439
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It's just me. So yeah, it takes time to build those things.

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I, but I do think that this is gonna be a very,

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this is gonna be a key job.

442
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We're a senior center was, what, five, 10 years ago? Yeah.

443
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Look at it now. Yeah, and Vet center too.

444
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Good examples all around.

445
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I mean, I've said it before, is I think

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that this is the baseline right now.

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'cause I think that, you know, back years ago when Park

448
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and Rec was dismantled

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and it was put into DPW I think the end game here is, I,

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I've said it because I, I've talked to Brian in, in Wilbraham,

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I've talked to Andy Rogers in South Hadley online platform.

452
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We've been talking about this for a couple years.

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It was introduced, but then it was denied type of thing.

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So it was blue sombrero or my rec

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or any of those platforms to where you start with recreation

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and then eventually we build our programs

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and I think it's a park and rec director down the road.

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Obviously it's gonna cost us more.

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We're gonna have to probably establish a budget.

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And we're trying to, we're kind of doing that with a

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stabilization fund a little bit.

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But I think down the road then, I mean, park

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and Rec director helps oversee the golf course too,

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because I think it,

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it has more eyes on it and we see what's going on.

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It's all recreation. Yeah. Yeah.

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So, I mean, it's all recreation.

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So I think over time, I mean, can we do it now?

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No, but we just see where, where we start and get our fields

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and our parks in better shape,

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and then hopefully be able

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to build the pro build it back up.

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I mean, we can't do it in one, one year. So I'm

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Sure most of the first year will be needs

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assessment and analysis anyway. Right? Yeah. What are we

476
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Missing?

477
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It's no different than the pond committee.

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You know, we've talking about that,

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that they're in the middle of building

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that program right now.

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And it takes a little while to get it under steam

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and get it rolling and, and get it funded

483
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and get established.

484
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So, good stuff.

485
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Hey, listen, if we can bring in people from other

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communities to participate in our services, that's

487
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outside money coming in.

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So that's, that's a big, that's a big deal. So,

489
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And I know you've, you've said it, we've had discussions

490
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before where you said you go outta town

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as well for, for services. For services,

492
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Exactly.

493
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And, and again, it's not just youth sports,

494
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it's yoga, it's, you know, whatever.

495
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Exactly. You know, it's things like that. So

496
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Programming it. Yep.

497
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Alright. I didn't see any

498
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of your comments on the draft job description, so I don't

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Know.

500
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It was probably just a thumbs up

501
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because the question I had Oh, okay. Was answered in there,

502
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So.

503
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Okay. Gotcha. Okay.

504
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It was already covered. Okay. I hadn't seen it.

505
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I had asked some questions, I think. Okay.

506
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I sent them to Marc and Amy. Okay. Cheryl.

507
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And when I read it, okay, I can, if you sent me an email,

508
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I can respond if I overlooked it. Sorry,

509
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I just, I thought you meant you made changes. No,

510
00:20:58,725 --> 00:20:59,725
No, no, no, No.

511
00:20:59,725 --> 00:21:00,285
Alright.

512
00:21:00,625 --> 00:21:01,965
Do you have anything else, Carrie, final?

513
00:21:03,705 --> 00:21:05,565
No, I don't. No, no.

514
00:21:06,225 --> 00:21:07,885
Not unless you have any other questions for these.

515
00:21:07,885 --> 00:21:11,645
Anyone else have any other questions? Can I go home? Yeah.

516
00:21:11,985 --> 00:21:14,205
No, I was, I was gonna send Carrie home.

517
00:21:14,225 --> 00:21:16,965
Go have dinner. No, I,

518
00:21:17,105 --> 00:21:18,205
I'm good on page three. A six.

519
00:21:18,205 --> 00:21:20,765
Yeah, I know we rifle right through.

520
00:21:20,785 --> 00:21:22,965
We still got the articles and the budget.

521
00:21:24,335 --> 00:21:25,845
Thank you, Carrie. Okay. Thank you.

522
00:21:26,135 --> 00:21:28,125
Thank you. Thanks, Carrie. Good seeing you. Thank you.

523
00:21:31,225 --> 00:21:32,765
All right. Let me get back to my agenda

524
00:21:35,145 --> 00:21:36,205
before Manny Falls. So

525
00:21:36,205 --> 00:21:37,885
We got one of those, oh 6:40

526
00:21:38,195 --> 00:21:39,195
Long time ago.

527
00:21:39,195 --> 00:21:42,685
26 47. Did we do 48? We're on 48. 48.

528
00:21:43,755 --> 00:21:47,165
Okay. Oh, okay.

529
00:21:48,405 --> 00:21:50,845
I think that Twice. Item 26 dash 48,

530
00:21:50,845 --> 00:21:52,485
charter communications and annual

531
00:21:52,485 --> 00:21:53,845
notification of license fees.

532
00:21:54,595 --> 00:21:57,445
Motion to file Mr. Chairman? Second.

533
00:21:58,105 --> 00:22:00,325
Motion has been made. And seconded. All in favor? Aye. Aye.

534
00:22:00,745 --> 00:22:03,725
Aye. Motion passes.

535
00:22:03,755 --> 00:22:07,485
5-0. 26-49. Charter communications.

536
00:22:07,485 --> 00:22:10,285
Annual annual notification on billing and termination.

537
00:22:11,545 --> 00:22:13,245
Motion to file. Mr. Chairman. Second.

538
00:22:13,645 --> 00:22:15,925
Motion's been made. And second. All in favor? Aye. Aye.

539
00:22:15,985 --> 00:22:20,965
Aye. Motion passes 5-0. 26-50 zoning

540
00:22:20,975 --> 00:22:22,565
Board of Appeals reorganization.

541
00:22:23,345 --> 00:22:24,805
Mr. Chairman, Mr. Alves,

542
00:22:24,805 --> 00:22:25,805
Do these Yeah.

543
00:22:27,155 --> 00:22:28,645
From the zoning board of appeals,

544
00:22:28,645 --> 00:22:32,485
they have reorganized their March 11th meeting

545
00:22:32,505 --> 00:22:34,085
and voted to reorganize as follows.

546
00:22:34,115 --> 00:22:36,845
Alan Aubin, chairperson. Mike Parker, Vice chairperson.

547
00:22:37,465 --> 00:22:41,565
Elaine Hodgman, Member. Waldemar Rodrigues, Alternate. Member.

548
00:22:41,665 --> 00:22:43,485
Member. Now just approve the member.

549
00:22:43,675 --> 00:22:45,365
Yeah, they'll, they'll have to handle that, but yeah.

550
00:22:47,345 --> 00:22:48,485
Motion to file.

551
00:22:50,385 --> 00:22:53,325
Second. Motion's been made and seconded. All in favor?

552
00:22:53,465 --> 00:22:57,325
Aye. Aye. Aye. Motion passes 5-0. 26-51

553
00:22:57,525 --> 00:22:58,605
Planning board reorganization.

554
00:22:58,865 --> 00:23:02,365
Mr. Chairman, at the March 26, 26 meeting

555
00:23:02,365 --> 00:23:03,645
of the Ludlow Planning Board, they voted

556
00:23:03,645 --> 00:23:04,845
to reorganize as follows.

557
00:23:04,845 --> 00:23:07,365
Ray Phoenix, chairman. William Ellison,

558
00:23:07,715 --> 00:23:09,365
vice Chairman. Kathleen Houle,

559
00:23:09,565 --> 00:23:11,765
Secretary. Christopher Coelho, member. Joel Silva,

560
00:23:11,765 --> 00:23:14,605
Member. Haley Rivers, associate member. Motion to file.

561
00:23:15,505 --> 00:23:18,085
Second Motion's been made and seconded.

562
00:23:18,105 --> 00:23:19,125
All in favor? Aye. Aye.

563
00:23:19,185 --> 00:23:23,885
Aye. Motion carries. Five zero. Item 26-52.

564
00:23:23,885 --> 00:23:25,205
School committee reorganization.

565
00:23:25,745 --> 00:23:30,045
Mr. Chairman, at the March 24th, 2026 meeting of the Ludlow

566
00:23:30,045 --> 00:23:32,165
School Committee, they voted to reorganize as follows.

567
00:23:32,575 --> 00:23:36,005
Sarah Bowler, chair. Amanda Codding, Vice Chair. Jeffrey Laing,

568
00:23:36,285 --> 00:23:39,285
Secretary. Christopher Manfredi, member. Jeffrey Stratton,

569
00:23:39,285 --> 00:23:40,525
member. Motion to file.

570
00:23:41,025 --> 00:23:42,925
Second Motion's

571
00:23:42,925 --> 00:23:43,925
been made

572
00:23:43,925 --> 00:23:45,645
And seconded. All in favor? Aye. Aye. Aye. Motion carries

573
00:23:45,645 --> 00:23:49,165
5-0. 26-53 Letter from Elizabeth Dumaine.

574
00:23:49,875 --> 00:23:52,325
Request for special municipal employee exemption

575
00:23:52,325 --> 00:23:54,685
as a lunch monitor in the Ludlow Public Schools

576
00:23:54,745 --> 00:23:56,485
for the senior work abatement program.

577
00:23:58,195 --> 00:23:59,195
Swap

578
00:24:03,425 --> 00:24:04,125
Mr. Chairman.

579
00:24:04,665 --> 00:24:09,645
Mr. Alves? So with these, it's a situation

580
00:24:09,645 --> 00:24:10,925
where they're a town employee,

581
00:24:11,545 --> 00:24:16,005
but they won the lottery for the SWAP program.

582
00:24:16,225 --> 00:24:19,325
And to do both, we need to approve it.

583
00:24:21,235 --> 00:24:23,605
Yeah, because you can't have two two sources of,

584
00:24:23,785 --> 00:24:27,525
of revenue income through the, so

585
00:24:27,525 --> 00:24:30,925
what this does is it would, it would make the lunch monitors

586
00:24:30,945 --> 00:24:33,485
as a class, especially municipal employees,

587
00:24:38,185 --> 00:24:39,645
Any discussion of questions. Is it,

588
00:24:39,965 --> 00:24:40,965
Mr.

589
00:24:40,965 --> 00:24:42,445
Chairman is, isn't there a requirement

590
00:24:42,445 --> 00:24:46,635
for income requirement for, for the workout program in town?

591
00:24:46,635 --> 00:24:48,195
Yeah. Do we have that? We don't have that.

592
00:24:50,385 --> 00:24:52,395
Like being below a certain income. Yeah. What

593
00:24:52,395 --> 00:24:53,395
Do you mean?

594
00:24:53,395 --> 00:24:54,355
Well, this program was developed

595
00:24:54,355 --> 00:24:55,955
to help out seniors and help out people.

596
00:24:56,595 --> 00:24:57,835
A good question that were, that were,

597
00:24:57,975 --> 00:24:59,715
you know, that needed the help.

598
00:25:00,055 --> 00:25:04,355
It wasn't just to, to bring it to anybody. And I know that

599
00:25:05,295 --> 00:25:06,675
Was like a cap rate on it. I

600
00:25:06,685 --> 00:25:07,685
Dunno if that's in there.

601
00:25:07,725 --> 00:25:09,315
There was caps, but I don't know if we have,

602
00:25:09,835 --> 00:25:11,595
I think we talked about this previously

603
00:25:12,455 --> 00:25:14,035
and I don't think there was a cap,

604
00:25:14,855 --> 00:25:16,555
but I know that other people have talked

605
00:25:16,555 --> 00:25:17,675
about putting a cap on.

606
00:25:17,985 --> 00:25:21,395
It's just the, the verification of the income process is,

607
00:25:21,575 --> 00:25:22,835
is cumbersome.

608
00:25:22,975 --> 00:25:24,475
And you know, it's only Amy

609
00:25:24,615 --> 00:25:26,035
who pretty much, you know, runs the

610
00:25:26,035 --> 00:25:27,035
Program.

611
00:25:27,035 --> 00:25:28,035
I don't, I don't know if that's in there,

612
00:25:28,175 --> 00:25:31,835
but I mean, at the same point, my income could be zero

613
00:25:31,855 --> 00:25:33,275
and I could be sitting on $4 million.

614
00:25:35,145 --> 00:25:37,635
Well, yeah. Taking RMDs outta my retirement account.

615
00:25:37,715 --> 00:25:39,595
I mean, I if if you wanna

616
00:25:39,595 --> 00:25:42,075
work, I mean you, you're working right? Not

617
00:25:42,075 --> 00:25:43,075
Just a handout.

618
00:25:43,075 --> 00:25:44,355
Most of the, most of the senior, the senior abatements

619
00:25:44,355 --> 00:25:45,835
and all that, there is caps for everything.

620
00:25:45,855 --> 00:25:48,355
You both, it's both income and and assets.

621
00:25:48,495 --> 00:25:50,235
But I don't know. And we

622
00:25:50,235 --> 00:25:52,355
Also don't fill our open abatement slot.

623
00:25:52,375 --> 00:25:53,755
That's gonna be my other question. How many

624
00:25:53,755 --> 00:25:54,995
people get turned away?

625
00:25:55,945 --> 00:25:57,075
Like when we do this lottery,

626
00:25:57,795 --> 00:25:59,035
I don't think I saw something like 80.

627
00:25:59,035 --> 00:26:00,075
Right. And we don't fill that.

628
00:26:00,075 --> 00:26:02,315
I think it's like, yeah, I think there's 60 something

629
00:26:02,725 --> 00:26:05,395
slots and I think we had like 80, 80 applicants.

630
00:26:08,995 --> 00:26:10,475
I think that's a secondary discussion though.

631
00:26:10,515 --> 00:26:13,115
I mean, in terms of this, I don't see

632
00:26:14,375 --> 00:26:15,675
an inherent issue if someone

633
00:26:16,065 --> 00:26:18,195
essentially wants to work two jobs. I

634
00:26:18,195 --> 00:26:19,195
Agree.

635
00:26:19,515 --> 00:26:21,035
Somebody wants to pretty much volunteer

636
00:26:21,035 --> 00:26:22,035
and they're gonna get a stipend

637
00:26:22,085 --> 00:26:23,085
Still working.

638
00:26:23,085 --> 00:26:27,195
We're not. Yeah. Yeah. I would make a motion to

639
00:26:28,105 --> 00:26:30,635
request special municipal employee exemption

640
00:26:30,635 --> 00:26:32,955
as a lunch monitor for Elizabeth Duma.

641
00:26:33,935 --> 00:26:35,835
Can I ask a question? Second? Yep.

642
00:26:36,045 --> 00:26:37,315
Discussion. Yeah. So how

643
00:26:37,315 --> 00:26:39,195
Do you, are you able to differentiate her work

644
00:26:39,455 --> 00:26:42,315
versus the abatement program? 'cause you got a a

645
00:26:42,755 --> 00:26:43,755
That's a, a good call.

646
00:26:43,755 --> 00:26:45,525
What's, what's the question? Can you differentiate

647
00:26:46,135 --> 00:26:47,765
employment versus abatement?

648
00:26:48,425 --> 00:26:50,525
In what way? The Work that they're doing?

649
00:26:50,755 --> 00:26:53,885
Yeah. Is She getting paid for abatement? No. No.

650
00:26:54,075 --> 00:26:55,685
It's just a, It's an abatement.

651
00:26:55,685 --> 00:26:57,565
So you have to work this, this was the question.

652
00:26:57,565 --> 00:26:59,565
So you, you have to work all of your hours,

653
00:26:59,675 --> 00:27:02,365
then you get a $900 abatement from your, from your taxes.

654
00:27:03,185 --> 00:27:05,925
But you also get a, you also get a W2.

655
00:27:06,105 --> 00:27:07,725
But I think what he's saying is his,

656
00:27:07,905 --> 00:27:09,805
her regular employee status.

657
00:27:09,995 --> 00:27:12,525
Yeah. Is it included in the abatement

658
00:27:12,795 --> 00:27:14,645
what the work she's doing for the abatement?

659
00:27:15,825 --> 00:27:17,045
It would be extra hours. Almost like

660
00:27:17,045 --> 00:27:18,085
a, it's almost like a double dip is

661
00:27:18,395 --> 00:27:20,005
Yeah, that's what I'm asking. That's

662
00:27:20,005 --> 00:27:22,165
What I, that that's exactly why it has

663
00:27:22,165 --> 00:27:23,685
to be a special municipal employee.

664
00:27:24,625 --> 00:27:25,885
So you can't, you can't,

665
00:27:26,065 --> 00:27:28,245
you can't have two incomes from the, from the town

666
00:27:29,105 --> 00:27:31,805
unless there's, there's certain ways to do it.

667
00:27:31,865 --> 00:27:34,085
Now there's, there's, there's ethical disclosures.

668
00:27:34,555 --> 00:27:38,085
This is one of them. Or the, the board says, okay,

669
00:27:38,425 --> 00:27:41,325
you are a employee full-time or part-time

670
00:27:42,385 --> 00:27:45,485
and you also work, you know, part-time for this board

671
00:27:45,545 --> 00:27:47,285
or you're doing the senior work abatement.

672
00:27:47,625 --> 00:27:50,725
You have to either get a special municipal employee status

673
00:27:51,275 --> 00:27:53,165
from the board or file disclosure

674
00:27:54,605 --> 00:27:55,645
documents with, with the clerk.

675
00:27:56,605 --> 00:27:58,125
I think what,

676
00:27:58,225 --> 00:27:59,405
and I, I could be wrong,

677
00:27:59,525 --> 00:28:01,245
I if you talk about something different,

678
00:28:01,305 --> 00:28:06,045
but if this person is working for the

679
00:28:07,945 --> 00:28:10,005
school department already working for the school

680
00:28:10,785 --> 00:28:13,565
in a lunch program and they turn around

681
00:28:13,625 --> 00:28:16,445
and said, Hey, not only do I wanna get paid,

682
00:28:16,445 --> 00:28:19,125
but I wanna save them my taxes and apply for a swap program.

683
00:28:20,195 --> 00:28:21,405
They're already scheduled to work.

684
00:28:22,075 --> 00:28:24,205
Yeah. I that's, I I'm not sure

685
00:28:24,425 --> 00:28:26,885
that's exactly what we're talking about. I'm, I I think I'm

686
00:28:27,065 --> 00:28:29,285
No, it's, it's a different performing a different

687
00:28:29,285 --> 00:28:30,365
duty for the swap.

688
00:28:30,755 --> 00:28:33,205
What the question is, is can they apply for the swap

689
00:28:34,075 --> 00:28:35,805
even if they're just doing the same job,

690
00:28:35,805 --> 00:28:36,925
they're already getting paid to

691
00:28:36,925 --> 00:28:38,525
Do No, it's gotta be a different job. Okay.

692
00:28:38,885 --> 00:28:41,125
I think that was kinda the question with additional hours.

693
00:28:41,595 --> 00:28:43,765
Yeah. Okay. Yeah. And you can differentiate.

694
00:28:44,025 --> 00:28:46,365
You can't just say, oh, I worked, you know, 10 to 12

695
00:28:46,365 --> 00:28:48,045
of the schools and that's part of my, my,

696
00:28:48,045 --> 00:28:49,205
my swap. Marc Strange

697
00:28:49,205 --> 00:28:52,165
is get the hours.

698
00:28:53,795 --> 00:28:55,285
It's gotta be, I wanted

699
00:28:55,285 --> 00:28:56,445
to make sure you differentiate that.

700
00:28:56,445 --> 00:28:58,725
That's, so this is vet that's vetted when,

701
00:28:59,505 --> 00:29:00,845
As part of the swap program?

702
00:29:00,875 --> 00:29:02,925
Yeah. So the way, the way the lottery works is you get

703
00:29:02,925 --> 00:29:05,845
picked and then you, you have like your preferences of

704
00:29:05,845 --> 00:29:08,045
where you wanna work and then you get assigned. I see.

705
00:29:08,045 --> 00:29:11,165
That's what's the what's the Yeah, no, that's, that's,

706
00:29:11,525 --> 00:29:13,485
that's crazy the way it's the way it's done here.

707
00:29:13,785 --> 00:29:16,085
And I've always said that What's the age?

708
00:29:16,425 --> 00:29:17,565
The age for senior.

709
00:29:20,155 --> 00:29:22,245
It's in the bylaw. I wanna say 62.

710
00:29:22,935 --> 00:29:24,685
Don't quote me on that. But it's in the bylaw.

711
00:29:25,035 --> 00:29:26,645
Yeah. See the way, the way, and I,

712
00:29:26,645 --> 00:29:30,325
and I used to run it over there and they would ask me if,

713
00:29:31,905 --> 00:29:35,205
and then I don't know why, but it would be need,

714
00:29:35,765 --> 00:29:38,565
a department would request a person to work off

715
00:29:38,825 --> 00:29:43,045
and then this person would be somebody that

716
00:29:43,665 --> 00:29:44,725
can fill that position.

717
00:29:44,945 --> 00:29:46,125
Not just, it's a lottery.

718
00:29:46,305 --> 00:29:47,885
So, okay, you get a lottery now you're gonna work

719
00:29:47,885 --> 00:29:49,565
here, you're gonna go in there.

720
00:29:49,565 --> 00:29:51,125
And they know nothing about

721
00:29:51,515 --> 00:29:52,645
what they're doing, where they're going.

722
00:29:52,705 --> 00:29:54,925
It, it makes no sense to me. You know.

723
00:29:55,225 --> 00:29:57,725
So you used to look at, you used to look at the,

724
00:29:58,055 --> 00:30:00,125
where they could go like, you need a secretary

725
00:30:00,145 --> 00:30:01,725
to do filing this person.

726
00:30:01,875 --> 00:30:04,325
Obviously you still secretary, you know. Yeah.

727
00:30:04,545 --> 00:30:06,845
So, but I don't know. I, this has

728
00:30:06,845 --> 00:30:08,005
Been like this for years and years.

729
00:30:10,965 --> 00:30:11,805
I, I think we have a motion.

730
00:30:11,805 --> 00:30:13,085
Motion was made and seconded.

731
00:30:14,905 --> 00:30:16,525
All in favor? I

732
00:30:16,745 --> 00:30:17,745
I'm gonna abstain.

733
00:30:20,665 --> 00:30:21,805
Why? Because you're over 62?

734
00:30:22,355 --> 00:30:23,685
Because I don't know, I just,

735
00:30:23,845 --> 00:30:27,525
I I'm the special employee status is they bother me.

736
00:30:28,175 --> 00:30:29,565
Don't ask me why. They just do.

737
00:30:29,915 --> 00:30:31,805
Yeah. In the same sense with a lot of things though.

738
00:30:31,805 --> 00:30:33,285
It's, we never have people that actually

739
00:30:33,285 --> 00:30:34,325
do the, you know, we're

740
00:30:34,325 --> 00:30:35,325
Agree.

741
00:30:35,325 --> 00:30:37,525
Don't, we don't have the people. So

742
00:30:39,545 --> 00:30:43,125
passes 4-0-1. Item 26-54.

743
00:30:43,125 --> 00:30:44,325
Letter from Robert Callahan.

744
00:30:44,325 --> 00:30:46,285
Request for special Municipal Employee exemption

745
00:30:46,285 --> 00:30:48,765
as a courier in a Ludlow Public Schools

746
00:30:48,785 --> 00:30:51,245
for the Senior Work Abatement program swap

747
00:30:53,505 --> 00:30:54,085
Mr. Chairman,

748
00:30:54,585 --> 00:30:55,245
Mr. Gennette,

749
00:30:55,445 --> 00:30:57,805
I move to approve Robert Callahan

750
00:30:57,825 --> 00:31:00,325
for Special Municipal Employee Exemption

751
00:31:00,905 --> 00:31:03,445
as a courier in the Ludlow Public Schools

752
00:31:03,625 --> 00:31:05,365
for a senior work abatement program.

753
00:31:07,505 --> 00:31:09,365
Second Motion's been made and seconded.

754
00:31:09,385 --> 00:31:10,565
All in favor? Aye. Aye.

755
00:31:10,565 --> 00:31:11,645
Abstain. Okay.

756
00:31:12,785 --> 00:31:17,725
Aye. Motion carries 4-0-1. Item 26 dash 55.

757
00:31:17,725 --> 00:31:19,125
Letter from Office of Leasing

758
00:31:19,125 --> 00:31:21,325
and state office planning requesting RFP

759
00:31:21,325 --> 00:31:23,005
for the Commonwealth search for lease space.

760
00:31:24,945 --> 00:31:29,005
Got anything to give them? Motion to file

761
00:31:30,865 --> 00:31:34,405
Second Motions has been made.

762
00:31:34,405 --> 00:31:35,645
And seconded. All in favor? Aye.

763
00:31:35,705 --> 00:31:37,845
Aye. Aye. Aye. Motion. There's nothing to do with

764
00:31:37,845 --> 00:31:38,845
That.

765
00:31:38,845 --> 00:31:40,885
Motion passes. Five zero. Item 26 56.

766
00:31:40,885 --> 00:31:42,525
Letter from the Board of Health in support

767
00:31:42,525 --> 00:31:44,365
of opioid settlement funding requests

768
00:31:44,365 --> 00:31:48,445
for sharp's containers in the amount of $1,565.70.

769
00:31:49,625 --> 00:31:51,925
Mr. Chairman. Mr. Gennette, do we know

770
00:31:51,925 --> 00:31:54,045
what the balance is on that opioid fund right now?

771
00:31:54,515 --> 00:31:55,885
It's gotta be up there. It's a good, yeah,

772
00:31:55,885 --> 00:31:57,085
it's, it's, it's up there.

773
00:31:57,085 --> 00:31:59,365
We just got another, a couple more and they were big,

774
00:31:59,385 --> 00:32:01,045
but we got a couple more deposits.

775
00:32:01,525 --> 00:32:04,005
Certainly more than $1,500. Yeah, I mean

776
00:32:04,005 --> 00:32:06,245
It's, if we're getting over 150 right? Or

777
00:32:06,245 --> 00:32:07,245
Something Like that.

778
00:32:07,245 --> 00:32:07,965
I, I can check on that 'cause they,

779
00:32:07,965 --> 00:32:10,285
because I cares is coming in next week.

780
00:32:10,505 --> 00:32:13,845
So I'll, I'll, I'll for this. I'll double check on that.

781
00:32:13,915 --> 00:32:14,915
Okay.

782
00:32:15,345 --> 00:32:17,205
I'm, this is what it's for. So, Mr.

783
00:32:17,485 --> 00:32:20,885
Chairman, I move to approve the Board of Health in support

784
00:32:20,885 --> 00:32:23,245
of opioid settlement funding request

785
00:32:23,265 --> 00:32:28,045
for sharps containers in the amount of $1,565 and 70 cents.

786
00:32:28,545 --> 00:32:30,645
Second Motions been made. And second. All in favor?

787
00:32:30,705 --> 00:32:32,645
Aye. Aye. Aye. Motion carries five zero

788
00:32:33,475 --> 00:32:37,405
item 26-57 Eversource Trans Transmission right

789
00:32:37,405 --> 00:32:41,365
of way work scheduled for Spring 2026 at 648 East Street

790
00:32:41,785 --> 00:32:43,525
and a parcel off of Chapin Street.

791
00:32:44,025 --> 00:32:46,205
Motion to file. Second

792
00:32:46,565 --> 00:32:47,565
Motion's been made.

793
00:32:47,565 --> 00:32:50,365
And second. All in favor? Aye. Aye. Motion carries.

794
00:32:50,365 --> 00:32:54,085
Five zero. Item 26-58 Christ the King annual Beano report.

795
00:32:55,105 --> 00:32:57,485
Motion file Mr. Chairman. Second.

796
00:32:58,005 --> 00:32:59,805
Motion's been made and seconded. All in favor? Aye.

797
00:32:59,985 --> 00:33:01,965
Aye. Motion carries. Five zero

798
00:33:03,315 --> 00:33:06,925
Item 26-59.

799
00:33:06,925 --> 00:33:09,125
Charter Communications upcoming pricing changes.

800
00:33:10,105 --> 00:33:11,685
Oh boy. Again,

801
00:33:14,105 --> 00:33:17,165
I'm gonna, I'm gonna have, I'm gonna start on MLP

802
00:33:17,165 --> 00:33:18,605
and we're gonna get fiber in this town.

803
00:33:18,855 --> 00:33:22,565
We're gonna, we're gonna change things around here. Hmm.

804
00:33:22,765 --> 00:33:26,365
I I will say one thing is that I had this discussion

805
00:33:26,365 --> 00:33:27,965
with someone, me, for like 10 years

806
00:33:27,995 --> 00:33:29,125
have been trying to cut the cord.

807
00:33:29,335 --> 00:33:30,685
Never cut the cord. Guess what?

808
00:33:30,685 --> 00:33:32,885
It's come full circle now because I went

809
00:33:33,025 --> 00:33:37,285
and I did my phone with Spectrum and they looked at my bill

810
00:33:37,285 --> 00:33:38,645
and they go, oh my God, you're paying way too much.

811
00:33:38,905 --> 00:33:41,125
I'm saving $280 a month right now. Yeah.

812
00:33:41,605 --> 00:33:44,125
I i cable has come full circle, I think to the point

813
00:33:44,125 --> 00:33:47,085
where I, I got one guy going, I can't watch the Red Sox

814
00:33:47,085 --> 00:33:48,125
or the Bruins because it's on

815
00:33:48,125 --> 00:33:49,405
NECN and I don't have that platform.

816
00:33:49,405 --> 00:33:51,645
And I go, that's fubu. Oh, then I gotta pay for fubu.

817
00:33:51,645 --> 00:33:55,005
And I go, I got cable and now it's all come full circle

818
00:33:55,105 --> 00:33:56,565
and I'm paying the same,

819
00:33:56,585 --> 00:33:58,765
if not less than all the streaming services.

820
00:33:58,905 --> 00:34:00,965
Huh? So

821
00:34:02,225 --> 00:34:03,765
You still have to pay the internet if you want.

822
00:34:04,515 --> 00:34:05,925
Yeah. Internet access, right?

823
00:34:06,235 --> 00:34:07,325
Yeah. Yep. And if you,

824
00:34:07,325 --> 00:34:09,285
and if you have just the internet, then you gotta, it

825
00:34:10,095 --> 00:34:12,885
price increases to like 90 something dollars.

826
00:34:12,995 --> 00:34:13,995
Yeah, they're getting paid in.

827
00:34:14,315 --> 00:34:15,725
They eliminated the everything else.

828
00:34:16,165 --> 00:34:17,325
Remember if you took the phone off that

829
00:34:17,325 --> 00:34:18,565
they save five bucks?

830
00:34:19,545 --> 00:34:20,885
No, they don't do that anymore. Nope.

831
00:34:21,265 --> 00:34:23,045
So when you take the phone off, it's off.

832
00:34:23,305 --> 00:34:25,525
So, Mr. Chairman, just to make note for the community

833
00:34:26,555 --> 00:34:30,125
service activation applies when services activated via self

834
00:34:30,245 --> 00:34:32,925
installation or professional institution will decrease

835
00:34:33,025 --> 00:34:35,165
by $10 from 30 to 20.

836
00:34:35,965 --> 00:34:38,165
Change of service. Oh, they're all decreases. Look at that.

837
00:34:38,165 --> 00:34:42,765
Well except for one will decrease from 15 by 15.

838
00:34:42,795 --> 00:34:43,965
From 60 to 50.

839
00:34:44,165 --> 00:34:48,285
Professional installation will decrease from by 15,

840
00:34:48,315 --> 00:34:49,645
from 65 to 50.

841
00:34:50,265 --> 00:34:54,525
So, and the hourly labor charge will decrease from by 15.

842
00:34:54,555 --> 00:34:55,605
From 60 to 50.

843
00:34:56,145 --> 00:34:59,765
But the reconnection fee will increase by $3 from $2

844
00:34:59,825 --> 00:35:03,765
to $5. Just for

845
00:35:04,255 --> 00:35:05,365
They're beating Eversource to the punch

846
00:35:05,385 --> 00:35:06,605
by dropping rates. Yeah.

847
00:35:06,785 --> 00:35:08,765
Motion to file. Second.

848
00:35:09,345 --> 00:35:11,605
Motion has been made. And seconded. All in favor? Aye.

849
00:35:11,745 --> 00:35:15,445
Motion carries five zero. Item 26-60 Lupa Zoo.

850
00:35:15,445 --> 00:35:17,725
Invitation to Community Summer Safety Day to be held.

851
00:35:18,085 --> 00:35:20,205
Saturday June 20th, 12:00 PM to 3:00 PM

852
00:35:21,225 --> 00:35:22,225
Mr.

853
00:35:22,225 --> 00:35:24,645
Chairman. Thank you Lupa Zoo for the invitation.

854
00:35:25,525 --> 00:35:28,125
Motion to file. Second. Second.

855
00:35:28,585 --> 00:35:30,405
Are we putting them, will they be on the

856
00:35:31,465 --> 00:35:33,645
events board on, on the website,

857
00:35:35,265 --> 00:35:36,885
On the on get Lost Month though?

858
00:35:37,355 --> 00:35:38,885
Yeah, on our, on our,

859
00:35:40,595 --> 00:35:42,165
This wouldn't be on our town calendar

860
00:35:42,365 --> 00:35:44,645
'cause it's not a town event, but,

861
00:35:44,745 --> 00:35:46,925
but there's a got lost in Ludlow calendar

862
00:35:46,925 --> 00:35:48,205
that has all the town events.

863
00:35:48,355 --> 00:35:51,285
Yeah, they, they might have actually already submitted.

864
00:35:51,795 --> 00:35:56,445
Okay. Back.

865
00:35:57,085 --> 00:35:58,525
I had a motion. Did I have a second?

866
00:35:59,665 --> 00:36:01,765
Yes I did. Okay. Motion's been made. And second.

867
00:36:01,785 --> 00:36:04,125
All in favor? Aye. Aye. Motion carries.

868
00:36:04,125 --> 00:36:07,525
Five zero. Item 26-61 Ludlow Community Center

869
00:36:07,525 --> 00:36:08,685
Randall Boys and Girls Club.

870
00:36:08,685 --> 00:36:10,765
Request from Lysa to use the field from April 12th

871
00:36:10,875 --> 00:36:12,205
through June 15th.

872
00:36:12,305 --> 00:36:16,525
Monday, Thursday, weekly, 5:30 to 8:00 PM

873
00:36:16,585 --> 00:36:19,285
and Saturday's weekly 9:00 AM

874
00:36:19,505 --> 00:36:22,005
to 3:00 PM excluding 4/11/26

875
00:36:22,065 --> 00:36:24,925
and 6/6/26. No rental fee.

876
00:36:25,925 --> 00:36:27,245
Chairman did, did we not,

877
00:36:27,525 --> 00:36:29,125
I was about to ask the same, well

878
00:36:29,225 --> 00:36:33,525
Not hand this right back to the community center to do,

879
00:36:33,965 --> 00:36:35,205
I don't know why it's coming to us now.

880
00:36:35,435 --> 00:36:37,725
It's coming back. 'cause we, we put it in the hands.

881
00:36:37,725 --> 00:36:38,885
It's been years since we've had 'em.

882
00:36:38,885 --> 00:36:40,845
Yeah. The the, we did this last year.

883
00:36:41,125 --> 00:36:42,965
I I can, I can sign this. Yeah.

884
00:36:43,905 --> 00:36:47,165
But just for transparency's sake, just so everybody knows,

885
00:36:47,185 --> 00:36:48,485
you know, that all three

886
00:36:48,485 --> 00:36:51,245
of these are organizations are gonna be using the fields

887
00:36:51,345 --> 00:36:52,845
and, and what sort of, what the times are.

888
00:36:53,465 --> 00:36:56,245
So, and I and I, I also talked to someone

889
00:36:56,625 --> 00:36:58,565
that's indirectly involved

890
00:36:58,625 --> 00:37:01,405
and there was a little bit of a conflict

891
00:37:01,425 --> 00:37:02,445
but they worked it out

892
00:37:02,625 --> 00:37:04,525
and so they said

893
00:37:04,525 --> 00:37:06,165
that they were just wondering if anyone needed to be here.

894
00:37:06,325 --> 00:37:08,165
I go no, because it looks like everything's worked out

895
00:37:08,185 --> 00:37:09,205
now. So Yeah. That's

896
00:37:09,205 --> 00:37:10,805
Why we decided to let them work it out.

897
00:37:10,955 --> 00:37:13,805
That was it. What are we gonna do, you know, as the hub.

898
00:37:14,425 --> 00:37:16,325
But I think we were just the sign off once a year

899
00:37:16,325 --> 00:37:18,445
because this is a once a year type of thing.

900
00:37:18,445 --> 00:37:20,405
Yeah. Okay. Or until they get to the fall maybe.

901
00:37:20,795 --> 00:37:22,805
Yeah. Sounds

902
00:37:22,885 --> 00:37:26,165
bueno. Motion. What are

903
00:37:26,165 --> 00:37:27,165
We doing?

904
00:37:27,305 --> 00:37:30,165
Do we need to a motion to sign these and stuff

905
00:37:30,185 --> 00:37:31,185
Or is It inform You

906
00:37:31,185 --> 00:37:31,965
Don't have have to sign them. I would just say

907
00:37:31,965 --> 00:37:32,965
Approve.

908
00:37:32,965 --> 00:37:33,245
I can just sign. I can just,

909
00:37:33,385 --> 00:37:35,485
or if you want to approve it, it's fine. Motion

910
00:37:35,585 --> 00:37:36,685
To file them. Just

911
00:37:36,685 --> 00:37:37,725
File 'em. File 'em. Alright.

912
00:37:37,915 --> 00:37:42,645
Yeah. File 26-61 file. 26-62.

913
00:37:42,865 --> 00:37:44,765
And is the third one the same thing?

914
00:37:46,305 --> 00:37:48,005
26-63

915
00:37:49,545 --> 00:37:52,285
Second You wanna file,

916
00:37:52,345 --> 00:37:53,765
you wanna file all three at once?

917
00:37:54,395 --> 00:37:56,565
Sure. Do you wanna talk about any

918
00:37:56,565 --> 00:37:58,005
of 'em individually? I'll break you down.

919
00:37:58,315 --> 00:38:00,365
Well, the fir just read out which

920
00:38:00,365 --> 00:38:02,205
organizations just so to be

921
00:38:04,625 --> 00:38:05,625
Mr.

922
00:38:05,625 --> 00:38:08,165
Chairman, I move to file 26-61

923
00:38:08,275 --> 00:38:13,245
request from LYSA, 26-62 a

924
00:38:13,245 --> 00:38:15,645
request from Western United Pioneers

925
00:38:15,865 --> 00:38:19,765
and re re 26-63,

926
00:38:19,835 --> 00:38:23,885
request from IFA to use the fields

927
00:38:24,625 --> 00:38:28,125
at the Ludlow Community Center. Second.

928
00:38:28,545 --> 00:38:30,845
Motions been made and seconded. All in favor? Aye. Aye.

929
00:38:30,845 --> 00:38:32,805
Motion motions carry five zero.

930
00:38:33,915 --> 00:38:37,805
Item 26-64 MMWEC Pipeline Right of way.

931
00:38:37,805 --> 00:38:39,525
Work near Stony Brook Energy Center.

932
00:38:42,825 --> 00:38:44,325
Motion to file Second.

933
00:38:44,705 --> 00:38:46,405
Motion has been made. And second. All in favor,

934
00:38:46,795 --> 00:38:49,085
Abstain. Aye.

935
00:38:49,545 --> 00:38:52,365
Aye. Motion carries 4-0-1

936
00:38:54,595 --> 00:38:57,805
Item 26 65 Commonwealth of Massachusetts, department

937
00:38:57,805 --> 00:38:58,805
of Public Utilities

938
00:38:59,065 --> 00:39:01,365
and Department of Tele Telecommunications and cable.

939
00:39:01,365 --> 00:39:04,205
Notice of public Hearing and request for comments.

940
00:39:08,075 --> 00:39:09,075
Motion to file

941
00:39:09,075 --> 00:39:13,165
Mr. Chairman. Second.

942
00:39:13,845 --> 00:39:16,325
Motion's been made and seconded. All in favor? Aye. Aye.

943
00:39:16,385 --> 00:39:20,605
Aye. Motion carries five zero. Item 26-66 Mass.

944
00:39:20,725 --> 00:39:22,965
DOT bridge inspection report for West Street

945
00:39:23,695 --> 00:39:26,085
slash Chicopee River dated 2/17/26.

946
00:39:26,195 --> 00:39:27,885
Someone should probably read this one.

947
00:39:28,355 --> 00:39:31,445
Yeah. Is there an update on Ames Chairman at all?

948
00:39:31,465 --> 00:39:35,125
Do we have anything that's, I mean, not one day goes

949
00:39:35,125 --> 00:39:36,165
by that I don't get a

950
00:39:36,275 --> 00:39:37,765
Yeah, question. I,

951
00:39:38,425 --> 00:39:40,605
If I remember correctly, reading it all it really did is

952
00:39:40,605 --> 00:39:42,205
it showed some pictures too of heaves

953
00:39:42,205 --> 00:39:44,565
and things of that nature and snow was actually

954
00:39:45,275 --> 00:39:47,085
Yeah, this report's useless. Yeah,

955
00:39:47,675 --> 00:39:49,045
This report Does.

956
00:39:49,045 --> 00:39:51,125
Every comment says can't see there's snow on it.

957
00:39:51,125 --> 00:39:52,565
Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Thank you.

958
00:39:53,705 --> 00:39:55,685
I'm sure, I'm sure that the actual

959
00:39:57,555 --> 00:40:02,005
Need a state job, Municipal or state. I was excited.

960
00:40:02,125 --> 00:40:03,285
I was excited when I saw it.

961
00:40:03,285 --> 00:40:04,405
I thought it was gonna be something that

962
00:40:04,405 --> 00:40:05,685
they're telling us what's going on.

963
00:40:05,735 --> 00:40:06,805
We're gonna do it. But

964
00:40:07,745 --> 00:40:10,645
We Had an update on Putts bridge, didn't we?

965
00:40:11,665 --> 00:40:13,645
So, I mean, sorry.

966
00:40:14,065 --> 00:40:17,085
You're probably looking at a juggling act

967
00:40:17,715 --> 00:40:19,725
over the next like three to five years

968
00:40:20,475 --> 00:40:21,565
between the two bridges.

969
00:40:21,635 --> 00:40:25,125
Yeah, so I mean,

970
00:40:26,125 --> 00:40:28,005
I think I know, I think we know where this is going.

971
00:40:28,675 --> 00:40:30,885
It's just that it's not official with anything.

972
00:40:31,025 --> 00:40:33,365
So I would just leave it at that at this point.

973
00:40:35,985 --> 00:40:37,965
Do I have a motion to file on this?

974
00:40:40,265 --> 00:40:41,845
You have a motion to file? I, I just,

975
00:40:41,845 --> 00:40:43,565
just say you, you made it James? Yeah.

976
00:40:43,635 --> 00:40:46,325
Okay. Second. Motion's been made and seconded.

977
00:40:46,425 --> 00:40:51,325
All in favor? Aye. Aye. Aye. Motion carries five zero. Oh,

978
00:40:51,875 --> 00:40:55,005
here we go. Give him a nudge.

979
00:40:55,595 --> 00:40:59,125
Item 26 - 67 Chief Brennan, request for authorization

980
00:40:59,125 --> 00:41:00,725
to charge medical expenses and loss wages

981
00:41:00,725 --> 00:41:04,045
to chapter 41 111 F for injury sustained

982
00:41:04,045 --> 00:41:07,165
by a police officer while on duty on 3/30/2026.

983
00:41:08,105 --> 00:41:08,925
You gotta read this one.

984
00:41:12,905 --> 00:41:14,565
The motion please. Got it.

985
00:41:15,345 --> 00:41:17,445
Motion to approve.

986
00:41:17,445 --> 00:41:19,805
26 - 67 Chief Brennan, request for authorization

987
00:41:19,805 --> 00:41:20,885
to charge medical expenses

988
00:41:20,905 --> 00:41:25,445
and lost wages to chapter 41 111F for an injury sustained

989
00:41:25,445 --> 00:41:28,925
by a police officer while on duty on 3 30 2026. Second

990
00:41:29,585 --> 00:41:30,585
Motion has been made.

991
00:41:30,585 --> 00:41:32,965
Second. All in favor? Aye. Aye. Aye. Motion carries.

992
00:41:33,005 --> 00:41:34,445
Five zero. So just so you know,

993
00:41:34,965 --> 00:41:36,925
I wondering, This one falls on you

994
00:41:36,925 --> 00:41:38,005
now 'cause you're the junior.

995
00:41:38,345 --> 00:41:39,805
Got it. And you're the freshman. So

996
00:41:40,825 --> 00:41:41,825
Rookie hazing.

997
00:41:41,825 --> 00:41:44,045
That one is, that one started with me I think maybe

998
00:41:44,835 --> 00:41:46,045
five or six years ago.

999
00:41:46,345 --> 00:41:49,085
And it's section 111 F not 1-1 F. Got

1000
00:41:49,085 --> 00:41:50,085
It.

1001
00:41:50,085 --> 00:41:51,685
You'll become a pro at it. Trust me.

1002
00:41:53,705 --> 00:41:54,765
In your sleep already

1003
00:41:54,945 --> 00:41:56,565
In your sleep, you'll know it, right?

1004
00:41:56,725 --> 00:41:58,525
I I wasn't even reading the paper anymore.

1005
00:41:59,205 --> 00:42:01,365
Moving on to unfinished business board to discuss

1006
00:42:01,365 --> 00:42:02,485
and probably approve, repair

1007
00:42:02,485 --> 00:42:04,205
and replacement of the roof of the gazebo,

1008
00:42:04,285 --> 00:42:06,485
I believe continued from March 17th, 2026.

1009
00:42:07,085 --> 00:42:10,325
I believe this is tabled at this point. Yeah. Okay.

1010
00:42:10,865 --> 00:42:14,245
So we'll table that. We have a quote coming in.

1011
00:42:17,995 --> 00:42:19,445
This isn't even the last page.

1012
00:42:19,445 --> 00:42:20,725
What's going on here? Unfinished.

1013
00:42:21,715 --> 00:42:23,085
It's never ending. Two more pages.

1014
00:42:24,065 --> 00:42:25,405
Oh here we go. Board to discuss

1015
00:42:25,405 --> 00:42:26,565
and possibly do we want

1016
00:42:28,185 --> 00:42:31,165
to vote on fiscal year 27 budget proposal?

1017
00:42:32,245 --> 00:42:36,045
I think it's time. Yeah, I mean

1018
00:42:36,305 --> 00:42:37,365
If there's any questions, if

1019
00:42:37,365 --> 00:42:38,965
Anyone has any questions about the budget

1020
00:42:39,025 --> 00:42:40,805
or anything, I mean, what's our number?

1021
00:42:40,815 --> 00:42:44,285
We're right around 190 excess. Is that still the same?

1022
00:42:44,765 --> 00:42:46,165
I didn't get all the way to the bottom of this.

1023
00:42:47,785 --> 00:42:50,565
Let me see. 189. Right? 189. There

1024
00:42:50,565 --> 00:42:52,125
Were some changes that were made

1025
00:42:52,265 --> 00:42:53,765
and I'll, I'll explain those.

1026
00:42:54,675 --> 00:42:56,805
There's a few outstanding questions.

1027
00:42:57,295 --> 00:43:00,405
Thank you. Well, One of them would come from

1028
00:43:00,475 --> 00:43:01,475
Pond.

1029
00:43:02,195 --> 00:43:06,285
From what? The pond committee.

1030
00:43:06,825 --> 00:43:08,685
Mr. Chairman, can I ask a Mr.

1031
00:43:08,845 --> 00:43:10,845
Alves. A question or I guess question and or comment?

1032
00:43:12,335 --> 00:43:15,205
We've talked about a few changes tonight,

1033
00:43:20,225 --> 00:43:21,365
you know, particularly the pond.

1034
00:43:21,785 --> 00:43:24,405
Yep. You know, maybe we should iron that out.

1035
00:43:27,985 --> 00:43:30,045
No, I agree. That's what I was saying is I think with

1036
00:43:30,045 --> 00:43:31,685
All those changes, I think we should absorb those

1037
00:43:31,825 --> 00:43:35,725
and be able to review them.

1038
00:43:35,985 --> 00:43:37,085
That's just me. But,

1039
00:43:38,265 --> 00:43:39,405
So they're Mr.

1040
00:43:39,685 --> 00:43:43,405
Chairman. So just a couple more in addition to the pond.

1041
00:43:44,665 --> 00:43:45,845
We just received our,

1042
00:43:46,285 --> 00:43:49,565
'cause our, our contract with CMD is up in June 30th.

1043
00:43:50,585 --> 00:43:54,685
So Charlie just sent over the new, the new proposal

1044
00:43:54,945 --> 00:43:56,765
for fiscal 27 and beyond.

1045
00:43:57,285 --> 00:43:58,805
I have not had a chance to look at it yet.

1046
00:43:58,845 --> 00:44:01,285
I think there's a slight increase in the proposal.

1047
00:44:02,385 --> 00:44:04,925
So, so we'll have to absorb that in the fiscal 27.

1048
00:44:06,025 --> 00:44:08,925
And then we just, we should ask Melissa, when she was here,

1049
00:44:08,925 --> 00:44:12,405
they just, they just did a bid for their cleaning con

1050
00:44:13,285 --> 00:44:15,125
contract cleaning company for fiscal 27.

1051
00:44:15,185 --> 00:44:18,525
And that's slightly higher than what was in her budget.

1052
00:44:19,265 --> 00:44:21,365
Not, not gonna, not gonna break anything.

1053
00:44:21,425 --> 00:44:23,525
But we, we do need to make those adjustments.

1054
00:44:28,235 --> 00:44:29,685
Yeah. Personally I'd like to see all the

1055
00:44:29,685 --> 00:44:32,125
changes be able to review that.

1056
00:44:35,265 --> 00:44:37,405
The, just just to finish up, Mr.

1057
00:44:37,645 --> 00:44:40,805
Chairman, the vets in, we had

1058
00:44:40,805 --> 00:44:43,605
to increase the vet's budget by 5,000

1059
00:44:43,705 --> 00:44:44,965
for essentially postage.

1060
00:44:46,625 --> 00:44:48,645
The Hubbard Memorial Library reclass

1061
00:44:48,955 --> 00:44:52,285
that 20 something thousand dollars savings is reflected in

1062
00:44:52,285 --> 00:44:53,765
that, that new sheet that you guys have.

1063
00:44:54,585 --> 00:44:58,885
And then the treasurer collector did a small adjustment

1064
00:44:58,885 --> 00:45:02,805
to the treasurer budget based upon calculate calculation

1065
00:45:02,805 --> 00:45:03,805
error with their salary

1066
00:45:04,625 --> 00:45:08,365
and then increased the, the postage and the 'cause.

1067
00:45:08,365 --> 00:45:10,165
We, we, we outsource our, our bills.

1068
00:45:11,425 --> 00:45:13,725
So she increased the postage and the collection services.

1069
00:45:14,305 --> 00:45:16,525
So that's all reflected in, in in what you have there.

1070
00:45:17,105 --> 00:45:19,725
So that's the 180 9 8 29. Yeah. Okay.

1071
00:45:20,545 --> 00:45:23,965
So do we wanna make notes on some, like you were saying

1072
00:45:25,935 --> 00:45:29,605
about, 'cause we do have, pond Commission is on page one.

1073
00:45:30,235 --> 00:45:31,325
There's a zero there.

1074
00:45:34,475 --> 00:45:35,965
Yeah. Pond Commission is not,

1075
00:45:36,065 --> 00:45:37,445
is not in that budget right now.

1076
00:45:45,585 --> 00:45:47,765
So we make the changes and approve it next week.

1077
00:45:50,555 --> 00:45:53,045
Yeah, I mean if you guys want to discuss it and then

1078
00:45:53,235 --> 00:45:54,405
Yeah, that would be my preference.

1079
00:45:54,405 --> 00:45:56,005
But I mean, anything outstanding we

1080
00:45:56,005 --> 00:45:57,125
should give the direction now.

1081
00:45:57,145 --> 00:45:58,925
But I think of what we're thinking. Right?

1082
00:45:59,325 --> 00:46:00,365
I I I don't think we should be

1083
00:46:00,365 --> 00:46:01,405
doing it on the fly next week.

1084
00:46:01,465 --> 00:46:05,165
It should be my my opinion. Here's the changes.

1085
00:46:05,185 --> 00:46:06,565
Here's everything we consider this week.

1086
00:46:06,705 --> 00:46:08,005
Get it to us at the end of the week

1087
00:46:08,105 --> 00:46:10,965
or middle of this week, review it ahead of time and

1088
00:46:11,155 --> 00:46:12,845
Then what we do is next week we're just

1089
00:46:12,845 --> 00:46:13,965
Final questions. I

1090
00:46:13,965 --> 00:46:14,965
Agree.

1091
00:46:14,965 --> 00:46:16,325
Yeah, no, that's where I was going with it.

1092
00:46:18,665 --> 00:46:21,045
So Mr.

1093
00:46:21,445 --> 00:46:24,485
Alves, what was the number on pond that we were looking at?

1094
00:46:26,985 --> 00:46:29,005
Was it, I gotta go back to that. Slide

1095
00:46:31,465 --> 00:46:34,485
It 36, So no, no it's not 36.

1096
00:46:34,745 --> 00:46:37,125
So under the guise of

1097
00:46:39,345 --> 00:46:42,685
trying to front load and prepay what we can now,

1098
00:46:44,705 --> 00:46:48,685
it leaves the remainder total needed of 14,000.

1099
00:46:52,505 --> 00:46:53,165
So what's the number of,

1100
00:46:53,165 --> 00:46:54,445
That's what would be needed for fiscal

1101
00:46:54,785 --> 00:46:56,245
20 based on their protection here.

1102
00:46:57,115 --> 00:47:01,175
Now I know there's some uncertainties with

1103
00:47:02,005 --> 00:47:04,255
Minechoag Pond and what might need to be done.

1104
00:47:08,835 --> 00:47:10,255
You know, so I I don't,

1105
00:47:12,985 --> 00:47:14,575
maybe we should go above that a little bit. But

1106
00:47:14,815 --> 00:47:17,255
I was gonna say 20 To, I don't think we're at the 36

1107
00:47:17,255 --> 00:47:18,695
because we're taking route two.

1108
00:47:23,005 --> 00:47:26,775
Yeah, I have here the, the, the prepayment

1109
00:47:26,775 --> 00:47:28,375
for fiscal 26.

1110
00:47:29,675 --> 00:47:30,885
That was 38.

1111
00:47:31,265 --> 00:47:34,445
38. If you back out the 15, I have to, I have

1112
00:47:34,445 --> 00:47:37,845
to confirm we still have it then you're at 2325.

1113
00:47:38,225 --> 00:47:39,965
That's where fiscal 26.

1114
00:47:40,745 --> 00:47:43,925
And then we don't know the number for what the spring of

1115
00:47:44,905 --> 00:47:48,485
fiscal 27 would be or did they say? No,

1116
00:47:48,485 --> 00:47:49,485
No, they have it here.

1117
00:47:49,485 --> 00:47:51,685
So calendar year 26 is 43,000.

1118
00:47:53,715 --> 00:47:56,215
But that would be under the assumption that we pay

1119
00:47:57,705 --> 00:47:58,815
prior to July 1st.

1120
00:48:02,795 --> 00:48:04,055
It it, it's on their, it's on their,

1121
00:48:04,155 --> 00:48:05,415
if you have their PowerPoint here.

1122
00:48:06,165 --> 00:48:08,855
Yeah. So I basically fi fiscal 27,

1123
00:48:08,855 --> 00:48:10,895
even though you're front loading it, you're still gonna have

1124
00:48:10,895 --> 00:48:14,575
to do fall and spring.

1125
00:48:15,235 --> 00:48:18,015
And spring is probably their more important time when

1126
00:48:18,015 --> 00:48:20,535
they're the beat as far as I

1127
00:48:20,655 --> 00:48:21,655
Remember.

1128
00:48:21,655 --> 00:48:23,975
Oh, 'cause this has the fall on 26. Oh it does. Okay.

1129
00:48:23,975 --> 00:48:25,415
Well calendar. Yeah.

1130
00:48:26,005 --> 00:48:28,175
Okay. Oh, that's, they did calendar and fiscal.

1131
00:48:28,195 --> 00:48:29,495
That's right. So, so

1132
00:48:29,495 --> 00:48:31,815
Then the spring's covered by the, you know, the 15,000,

1133
00:48:33,515 --> 00:48:34,655
you know, maybe a little, would

1134
00:48:34,655 --> 00:48:36,495
You be like 20, A little bit contingent

1135
00:48:36,495 --> 00:48:37,695
contingency on top of that?

1136
00:48:37,805 --> 00:48:39,055
This is the one I'm looking at.

1137
00:48:39,155 --> 00:48:43,215
Is this, is it different in, in the, this is the,

1138
00:48:43,215 --> 00:48:44,295
that one you, the email.

1139
00:48:45,165 --> 00:48:46,575
It's printed in our materials.

1140
00:48:47,125 --> 00:48:49,855
Yeah. You, you also had one you were showing too

1141
00:48:49,855 --> 00:48:52,135
that had what Mark's showing right now. Correct?

1142
00:48:52,135 --> 00:48:54,175
That's the first page If we prepay.

1143
00:48:54,405 --> 00:48:55,735
Yeah, that number's a little different.

1144
00:48:55,805 --> 00:48:57,695
It's, these are the numbers they're talking about. So

1145
00:48:57,695 --> 00:49:00,135
It's five grand more on their presentation in that 38.

1146
00:49:00,285 --> 00:49:01,285
Yeah.

1147
00:49:03,755 --> 00:49:04,975
And I think as they're considering,

1148
00:49:05,595 --> 00:49:07,415
But but you, you, you gotta see, right?

1149
00:49:07,435 --> 00:49:08,855
So if you do that prepay

1150
00:49:09,375 --> 00:49:11,015
and you look up above on the right Yeah.

1151
00:49:11,015 --> 00:49:13,575
That says fiscal 27, the Haviland's on the prepay,

1152
00:49:14,115 --> 00:49:16,575
the Harris is on the prepay, the Murphy's on the prepay.

1153
00:49:16,715 --> 00:49:21,535
But we don't know if that's Oh yeah, I guess so. Yeah,

1154
00:49:21,535 --> 00:49:22,535
It's all of 26.

1155
00:49:22,645 --> 00:49:24,975
Yeah. So it would just be Wade and Alden.

1156
00:49:26,565 --> 00:49:28,055
Yeah. This says 14 five

1157
00:49:30,565 --> 00:49:32,975
That, that says 14 five for Wade and Alden.

1158
00:49:34,195 --> 00:49:35,695
No, Harris,

1159
00:49:38,925 --> 00:49:41,415
Because you got Alden down here too. These are

1160
00:49:41,415 --> 00:49:42,415
Different numbers.

1161
00:49:42,415 --> 00:49:42,925
Yeah.

1162
00:49:44,615 --> 00:49:48,015
Wades down there too. Oh yeah. Wades here.

1163
00:49:49,875 --> 00:49:50,655
So lemme take

1164
00:49:54,635 --> 00:49:55,295
Oh you know why?

1165
00:49:55,295 --> 00:49:57,255
Because they have it broken out to half the year here.

1166
00:49:57,575 --> 00:49:58,575
That's why.

1167
00:49:59,125 --> 00:50:01,815
Yeah, That's why I'm saying is that, that's what,

1168
00:50:01,975 --> 00:50:03,375
remember what I said is that you do something

1169
00:50:03,375 --> 00:50:05,775
but then you budget them Fiscals 27 right.

1170
00:50:05,885 --> 00:50:07,895
Will be budgeted the full 30,000.

1171
00:50:08,525 --> 00:50:09,735
Yeah, it should be some, I I would

1172
00:50:09,735 --> 00:50:10,855
say it should be somewhere in the middle, right?

1173
00:50:10,855 --> 00:50:12,695
Yeah. 25, 30. Yeah,

1174
00:50:12,855 --> 00:50:15,135
I I would say it's 30 because I, I have a feeling that

1175
00:50:15,665 --> 00:50:17,135
Minechoag is gonna come in high

1176
00:50:17,675 --> 00:50:19,895
and then we really don't even, I mean Wade's on there,

1177
00:50:19,895 --> 00:50:21,095
but we really don't know Wade.

1178
00:50:21,745 --> 00:50:23,975
Right. Well they still have to do a lot of research.

1179
00:50:24,205 --> 00:50:25,215
Yeah. So Right.

1180
00:50:25,215 --> 00:50:26,415
That's why I'm saying on top of that

1181
00:50:26,415 --> 00:50:27,885
for I'm, I'm fine with the 30

1182
00:50:28,035 --> 00:50:30,285
Because I think that's where their number was and

1183
00:50:30,545 --> 00:50:32,685
and that's what there was, Linda was saying it was like 30

1184
00:50:33,115 --> 00:50:35,605
that, that's why I was saying is if we had taken from

1185
00:50:35,605 --> 00:50:39,965
that 36 on that option one and you took the six out

1186
00:50:39,985 --> 00:50:42,685
and you put it onto the, this year and you had the 15,

1187
00:50:42,785 --> 00:50:46,325
but then you, their fiscal 27 is the bid budget they're

1188
00:50:46,325 --> 00:50:48,885
gonna have going forward over the years.

1189
00:50:49,015 --> 00:50:52,485
Right. So it's the, it should be 30 for 27. Okay.

1190
00:50:52,745 --> 00:50:54,805
I'm good with the 30, but I still think it's important

1191
00:50:54,805 --> 00:50:56,165
to do whatever we can this year.

1192
00:50:56,385 --> 00:50:58,725
No, 'cause then that's gonna give them breathing room. Yeah.

1193
00:50:58,775 --> 00:50:59,725
Maybe it's something they're not

1194
00:50:59,725 --> 00:51:00,605
even thinking about right now.

1195
00:51:00,605 --> 00:51:01,605
Right.

1196
00:51:02,355 --> 00:51:04,365
Well and we also, Or if a cost goes up

1197
00:51:04,555 --> 00:51:05,565
between now and then

1198
00:51:06,145 --> 00:51:08,125
And in the same sense, I think once we get past

1199
00:51:08,385 --> 00:51:09,925
and you get, and I know

1200
00:51:09,925 --> 00:51:13,205
that they did say about in the future is adding ponds in,

1201
00:51:13,985 --> 00:51:16,765
but in the same sense is that the main, the maintaining

1202
00:51:16,765 --> 00:51:18,765
and the maintenance of it should drop the price

1203
00:51:18,955 --> 00:51:22,085
because now we're not doing 15 on Minechoag or whatever.

1204
00:51:22,785 --> 00:51:26,645
But any ponds that we add in should keep in that 30

1205
00:51:26,705 --> 00:51:28,965
to 35 range I would say over the next few years.

1206
00:51:29,145 --> 00:51:30,525
So, so

1207
00:51:31,765 --> 00:51:32,765
I just have a comment so Mr.

1208
00:51:32,925 --> 00:51:34,445
Chairman. Sure. So the prepayment

1209
00:51:34,445 --> 00:51:35,565
that's on the front page Marc,

1210
00:51:35,905 --> 00:51:40,485
38,250 does not include the $5,000 permit for Minechoag.

1211
00:51:41,025 --> 00:51:43,605
It says the 15,000 for treatment but not the 5,000 permit.

1212
00:51:43,605 --> 00:51:44,645
Ah, so that's where you get the, is

1213
00:51:45,425 --> 00:51:46,605
That's that's The, the front load.

1214
00:51:46,605 --> 00:51:48,165
The entire 2026. Got it. Yeah.

1215
00:51:48,515 --> 00:51:49,645
Yeah. The numbers between

1216
00:51:49,645 --> 00:51:52,365
between the two were 5,000 contrary. Yeah. Yeah.

1217
00:51:52,665 --> 00:51:53,685
But that's because their permit,

1218
00:51:53,715 --> 00:51:55,405
they're anticipating the permit ahead of time.

1219
00:51:55,465 --> 00:51:58,605
But it in fact in that 38, so if had the permit

1220
00:51:58,665 --> 00:52:01,005
and you're at 43,000 for 2027 is

1221
00:52:01,005 --> 00:52:02,365
Say 43,250?

1222
00:52:02,465 --> 00:52:03,845
Yes, that is correct sir. Okay, perfect.

1223
00:52:04,855 --> 00:52:07,125
Thank you. Alright, so that's 26.

1224
00:52:07,865 --> 00:52:11,765
Yes. Okay. Leaving And the remaining ponds for 27

1225
00:52:11,765 --> 00:52:13,885
where January to June of 2027.

1226
00:52:14,445 --> 00:52:17,965
Haviland, Harris, Murphy, Minechoag to be determined though,

1227
00:52:18,465 --> 00:52:19,805
and then Wade to be determined,

1228
00:52:20,345 --> 00:52:24,325
but just those three would be at 14,440 for fiscal 27 for

1229
00:52:24,325 --> 00:52:25,485
Half the And that's half the year.

1230
00:52:25,485 --> 00:52:26,485
Yeah.

1231
00:52:26,825 --> 00:52:30,245
For the remain, yeah. Remain FY 27 fiscal year.

1232
00:52:38,385 --> 00:52:39,565
So we're right on 30.

1233
00:52:47,185 --> 00:52:50,885
I'm fine with it. I mean, yeah, I Marc did you incorporate

1234
00:52:51,835 --> 00:52:52,845
into Sorry.

1235
00:52:53,225 --> 00:52:54,405
No, go go ahead. Go ahead.

1236
00:52:54,545 --> 00:52:58,885
Did you incorporate on this new copy the questions I had

1237
00:53:00,315 --> 00:53:02,165
like there was like 10 12 grand in reductions?

1238
00:53:02,185 --> 00:53:04,485
Yes. Those, those reductions are reflected on there.

1239
00:53:05,385 --> 00:53:08,725
All right. So I found

1240
00:53:09,795 --> 00:53:12,565
what I would call some fluff in

1241
00:53:15,285 --> 00:53:18,005
increases that were requested in general expenses that

1242
00:53:18,955 --> 00:53:22,245
history did not approve of them.

1243
00:53:23,185 --> 00:53:26,125
It was only 12 grand. But if you're taking that

1244
00:53:26,125 --> 00:53:30,765
and you're slotting it in here on top of what they need

1245
00:53:34,185 --> 00:53:35,525
30 right now would put you,

1246
00:53:35,655 --> 00:53:37,205
We're not realizing the 30, I guess is

1247
00:53:37,205 --> 00:53:38,285
what I'm getting at you.

1248
00:53:39,835 --> 00:53:41,965
Well what you're saying is if you realize the 30 you're at

1249
00:53:41,965 --> 00:53:45,725
159 but then you add 12 back in or deduct 12.

1250
00:53:45,725 --> 00:53:48,525
Right? 12. 12 was moved, Put you at 171.

1251
00:53:53,945 --> 00:53:55,925
So 30 I I'm fine in the 25, 30 range.

1252
00:53:56,025 --> 00:53:58,525
I'm not gonna quiblle over a couple bucks.

1253
00:54:00,005 --> 00:54:02,165
I would recommend the 30. Okay.

1254
00:54:02,245 --> 00:54:05,165
Because of the Minechoag if it does get the permit. The

1255
00:54:05,165 --> 00:54:06,165
Unknown.

1256
00:54:06,165 --> 00:54:07,885
Yeah. Be 15, 15, 9, 14, 15 To

1257
00:54:07,885 --> 00:54:08,885
Be 20.

1258
00:54:08,885 --> 00:54:10,285
You're 29, right? Yeah. So you better go with

1259
00:54:10,285 --> 00:54:11,285
The 30.

1260
00:54:11,285 --> 00:54:12,085
That's the one you gotta take care of. Yeah.

1261
00:54:12,085 --> 00:54:13,445
Yep. Correct. Okay.

1262
00:54:13,745 --> 00:54:16,405
So is everyone good the gentleman? We're putting this in.

1263
00:54:16,405 --> 00:54:17,405
We'll bake the numbers again.

1264
00:54:17,745 --> 00:54:18,885
Is there anything else on here?

1265
00:54:22,565 --> 00:54:26,245
I think we need to vote on the classifications.

1266
00:54:26,245 --> 00:54:28,525
Classifications, but I don't know if

1267
00:54:28,525 --> 00:54:29,965
anybody else had one off. Like

1268
00:54:30,945 --> 00:54:32,165
Is that A difference?

1269
00:54:32,365 --> 00:54:34,005
I guess department questions would be the thing

1270
00:54:34,005 --> 00:54:35,125
to do now if anybody had 'em.

1271
00:54:35,805 --> 00:54:37,485
I was fine with the classification.

1272
00:54:37,945 --> 00:54:40,845
Mr. Sanches. I, I thought just

1273
00:54:41,045 --> 00:54:42,845
regarding the fire department, I thought the chief had asked

1274
00:54:42,845 --> 00:54:44,765
for two firefighters, but I only see one.

1275
00:54:44,905 --> 00:54:48,845
Was there, there was only one request. I thought it was two.

1276
00:54:49,505 --> 00:54:51,485
He request Mr. Chairman, he requested two.

1277
00:54:52,345 --> 00:54:56,125
And the discussion was, you know, we can probably

1278
00:54:56,795 --> 00:54:59,605
fund two if we, if we use the ambulance revenue fund

1279
00:55:00,665 --> 00:55:02,925
or we can do one out of the operating budget

1280
00:55:02,985 --> 00:55:04,485
and then see where we are next year

1281
00:55:04,585 --> 00:55:07,325
and see if we can add another one, the second one.

1282
00:55:07,585 --> 00:55:10,005
So, so to answer your question, he asked

1283
00:55:10,005 --> 00:55:11,285
for two, but there's only one in there.

1284
00:55:11,305 --> 00:55:13,965
It was two. Yeah. I do not like the idea of going

1285
00:55:13,985 --> 00:55:15,845
to the ambulance subscription fund for

1286
00:55:15,925 --> 00:55:17,565
A, it's not the ambulance subscription fund.

1287
00:55:17,925 --> 00:55:19,645
Ambulance revenue fund. Sorry,

1288
00:55:19,645 --> 00:55:20,685
Ambulance revenue Fund.

1289
00:55:20,685 --> 00:55:21,845
Yeah. And that revenue has gone

1290
00:55:21,845 --> 00:55:23,045
up over the years, is that correct?

1291
00:55:23,355 --> 00:55:25,085
Yeah. So which is continuously,

1292
00:55:26,395 --> 00:55:29,205
it's been a generating revenue for the, for the town.

1293
00:55:30,385 --> 00:55:35,045
So yeah. But now that we have this extra 171 potentially,

1294
00:55:35,195 --> 00:55:37,925
does that help with the, giving them the two

1295
00:55:38,465 --> 00:55:39,765
or open that discussion back to two

1296
00:55:39,765 --> 00:55:41,565
or No, that discussion's over done with

1297
00:55:44,105 --> 00:55:45,085
You guys are the board

1298
00:55:48,575 --> 00:55:49,575
Discussion?

1299
00:55:49,725 --> 00:55:51,085
I can, I can speak for me.

1300
00:55:51,245 --> 00:55:53,285
I I mean my comments at the time were

1301
00:55:54,425 --> 00:55:55,805
in alignment with what James said.

1302
00:55:56,005 --> 00:55:58,925
I think the preference to fund recurring

1303
00:55:59,845 --> 00:56:01,005
expenses Yeah.

1304
00:56:01,005 --> 00:56:02,125
Should, should be through the,

1305
00:56:02,125 --> 00:56:05,685
through the budget that's in line with

1306
00:56:06,985 --> 00:56:08,165
It doesn't fit the budget. Right.

1307
00:56:08,665 --> 00:56:10,965
What's that? Adding another firefighter

1308
00:56:11,065 --> 00:56:12,065
One.

1309
00:56:12,065 --> 00:56:14,445
Right. So two would on the, on the, on the other part of

1310
00:56:14,445 --> 00:56:17,885
that, I think it's prudent at times when you can realize

1311
00:56:17,885 --> 00:56:22,165
some excess capacity, you know, to account

1312
00:56:22,185 --> 00:56:24,005
for who knows what.

1313
00:56:24,625 --> 00:56:29,205
And you know, I know this isn't a fire department thing,

1314
00:56:29,205 --> 00:56:32,045
this is in general, you know, growing too fast, too quick

1315
00:56:32,985 --> 00:56:34,045
can sometimes be a problem.

1316
00:56:34,065 --> 00:56:35,925
And that that's has nothing to do with the fire department.

1317
00:56:35,925 --> 00:56:36,965
That's just a general statement.

1318
00:56:37,785 --> 00:56:40,445
And just from where I sit, I'd be more inclined

1319
00:56:40,445 --> 00:56:42,725
to do one at a time and grow over time.

1320
00:56:43,685 --> 00:56:46,485
I can go add one. You see where you're at, you know,

1321
00:56:46,485 --> 00:56:50,685
I got no problem if we have capacity next year, you know,

1322
00:56:50,705 --> 00:56:52,205
for another firefighter to being at the top

1323
00:56:52,205 --> 00:56:53,205
of the list if it makes sense.

1324
00:56:53,575 --> 00:56:55,365
Sorry, I'm, there's more people that way.

1325
00:56:56,035 --> 00:56:57,405
Well, that I'm used to being on the,

1326
00:56:57,905 --> 00:57:01,925
That's the, that's the model for fire chief anyways is,

1327
00:57:02,065 --> 00:57:05,045
you know, progression and how many years out and he plans

1328
00:57:05,115 --> 00:57:06,165
accordingly for,

1329
00:57:06,305 --> 00:57:09,005
for positions down the down the road and everything.

1330
00:57:09,105 --> 00:57:11,325
So to get one this year, one next year,

1331
00:57:11,445 --> 00:57:13,245
I think he would be very happy to have the position

1332
00:57:13,665 --> 00:57:15,085
and a consideration for another one

1333
00:57:15,085 --> 00:57:16,725
that next year. I think that's, I think

1334
00:57:16,725 --> 00:57:18,525
Like I said, that would be my mindset for any

1335
00:57:18,605 --> 00:57:19,645
Department. I, I concur. Like

1336
00:57:19,645 --> 00:57:20,645
I said, I was asking for clarification.

1337
00:57:21,075 --> 00:57:22,405
Yeah. I con I concur.

1338
00:57:22,585 --> 00:57:25,845
You know, I think having some excess capacity is,

1339
00:57:26,065 --> 00:57:27,325
is, is nice for once

1340
00:57:31,345 --> 00:57:32,345
On my end.

1341
00:57:33,845 --> 00:57:35,525
I know that if he does one this year,

1342
00:57:35,585 --> 00:57:38,445
and that's what the board wishes one this year,

1343
00:57:38,465 --> 00:57:40,685
one next year puts him at full.

1344
00:57:41,385 --> 00:57:42,845
He has full rotations. Okay.

1345
00:57:43,185 --> 00:57:46,205
And I, and I know he and I talk to him a lot

1346
00:57:46,205 --> 00:57:49,165
and I know that he's been on this for about five years now,

1347
00:57:49,225 --> 00:57:50,485
is trying to get to these numbers.

1348
00:57:54,305 --> 00:57:59,005
So whatever the board wants.

1349
00:57:59,065 --> 00:58:02,365
So it looks, what's the inclination?

1350
00:58:04,425 --> 00:58:06,005
I'm, I'm okay with this list.

1351
00:58:07,835 --> 00:58:11,325
Okay. This list being the classification and total?

1352
00:58:11,505 --> 00:58:13,645
Yes. Okay. Just making sure I,

1353
00:58:13,785 --> 00:58:14,845
Oh, we're going to that quick.

1354
00:58:14,845 --> 00:58:18,485
Alright. So one, one firefighter

1355
00:58:19,065 --> 00:58:20,165
rec rec director.

1356
00:58:22,995 --> 00:58:24,365
This whole list is in there, right?

1357
00:58:24,485 --> 00:58:26,125
I already asked this question. Yeah. Okay.

1358
00:58:26,155 --> 00:58:28,565
Hold on. Sorry Mr. Chairman. No, go

1359
00:58:28,565 --> 00:58:29,565
Ahead.

1360
00:58:29,585 --> 00:58:34,165
Mr. Accounting and planning are in there as well?

1361
00:58:35,425 --> 00:58:36,765
No. Okay.

1362
00:58:36,885 --> 00:58:38,285
'cause that's throwing me off 'cause they're in red

1363
00:58:38,285 --> 00:58:40,125
and that are in, in red. The red

1364
00:58:40,125 --> 00:58:41,925
Ones that are in red are not in the budget.

1365
00:58:42,155 --> 00:58:43,365
Okay. Because I know

1366
00:58:43,365 --> 00:58:45,005
that we had said something about counting and

1367
00:58:45,205 --> 00:58:46,125
Planning. Okay. Yeah. Sorry

1368
00:58:46,125 --> 00:58:47,125
About that.

1369
00:58:48,225 --> 00:58:50,645
Too many colors. Anybody colorblind? It's tough.

1370
00:58:50,745 --> 00:58:52,125
No, it's tough. If you are

1371
00:58:52,775 --> 00:58:54,045
White lettering would've been better.

1372
00:58:55,455 --> 00:58:56,455
Sorry,

1373
00:58:57,925 --> 00:58:59,605
I, I think Mo most of these we've,

1374
00:58:59,975 --> 00:59:01,885
We've Talked about at length, right?

1375
00:59:02,065 --> 00:59:06,325
And, and I will say dispatch supervisor 100% on my end.

1376
00:59:06,345 --> 00:59:10,325
So I, or I'll get beat over the head with a stick.

1377
00:59:11,345 --> 00:59:12,645
But I mean, it, it makes sense

1378
00:59:12,705 --> 00:59:15,005
and I think in the direction that we're going with possible,

1379
00:59:16,555 --> 00:59:18,605
hopefully sometime bringing on other towns.

1380
00:59:18,985 --> 00:59:22,365
So, I mean, so we're looking at police at, for the

1381
00:59:23,845 --> 00:59:27,245
doubling the special dispatch supervisor,

1382
00:59:28,175 --> 00:59:31,365
which is an increase of $33,250

1383
00:59:31,985 --> 00:59:35,405
and the library, which we pretty much discussed earlier

1384
00:59:36,745 --> 00:59:38,845
and I think we had approved that one.

1385
00:59:38,965 --> 00:59:40,085
I mean, anything that's on here,

1386
00:59:40,085 --> 00:59:41,165
we've pretty much approved already.

1387
00:59:41,305 --> 00:59:43,965
So there's any

1388
00:59:44,945 --> 00:59:46,045
Did we officially Approve this?

1389
00:59:46,245 --> 00:59:47,725
I think there's a not the whole slate

1390
00:59:48,425 --> 00:59:50,005
agenda item to approve them.

1391
00:59:50,005 --> 00:59:51,005
Yeah.

1392
00:59:52,755 --> 00:59:55,205
Yeah. There's, here we go. Board to discuss, we'll,

1393
00:59:55,205 --> 00:59:57,285
we'll throw this one up here now then board to discuss

1394
00:59:57,285 --> 00:59:59,885
and possibly vote on fiscal year 27 new positions

1395
00:59:59,885 --> 01:00:01,365
and reclassification requests.

1396
01:00:04,515 --> 01:00:05,515
Have a motion.

1397
01:00:08,495 --> 01:00:12,005
These have to be one by one. I don't think so.

1398
01:00:12,625 --> 01:00:15,005
No. I think you can do what is as

1399
01:00:15,005 --> 01:00:16,005
Presented.

1400
01:00:16,425 --> 01:00:18,125
Yes. Yep. Alright, Mr.

1401
01:00:18,365 --> 01:00:19,965
Chairman, I would make a motion that we

1402
01:00:23,035 --> 01:00:25,085
approve the new positions

1403
01:00:25,905 --> 01:00:28,365
and classification reclassification requests

1404
01:00:29,905 --> 01:00:32,085
and contemplate them in the FY 27 budget

1405
01:00:32,225 --> 01:00:34,325
as presented. Second

1406
01:00:34,985 --> 01:00:36,805
Motion has been made. Second. All in favor?

1407
01:00:36,905 --> 01:00:39,085
Aye. Aye. Aye. Motion carries five zero.

1408
01:00:40,585 --> 01:00:41,765
So this is good.

1409
01:00:44,705 --> 01:00:47,925
We are still on the budget, but that moved us over to that.

1410
01:00:47,925 --> 01:00:50,085
So, really, Mr.

1411
01:00:50,085 --> 01:00:51,805
Gennette, you said you're good with the rest of this,

1412
01:00:51,985 --> 01:00:53,605
so it's really only the Pond Commission

1413
01:00:54,045 --> 01:00:58,405
addition of 30,000 on this. And then if Mr. I guess Mr.

1414
01:00:58,725 --> 01:01:01,405
Alves has a, a notation that you'd like

1415
01:01:01,405 --> 01:01:04,045
to make at some point on the 12,000 less,

1416
01:01:05,145 --> 01:01:06,285
or is that already reflected

1417
01:01:06,345 --> 01:01:07,345
You?

1418
01:01:07,345 --> 01:01:08,285
You already Marc already. Okay. Changed those.

1419
01:01:09,505 --> 01:01:11,405
Do we need a motion to put the 30,000 in or

1420
01:01:13,625 --> 01:01:14,625
No?

1421
01:01:14,625 --> 01:01:15,205
Right. So he'll,

1422
01:01:15,995 --> 01:01:17,005
He's just gonna redo it.

1423
01:01:17,005 --> 01:01:18,445
Mark, we'll make all the updates. Yeah.

1424
01:01:18,545 --> 01:01:19,965
Get it to us this week. Okay.

1425
01:01:20,185 --> 01:01:21,485
And then we'll have it to review ahead of time.

1426
01:01:21,505 --> 01:01:22,925
We can pick the final vote plus

1427
01:01:22,925 --> 01:01:24,405
The 12 you were talking. Okay. And

1428
01:01:24,875 --> 01:01:25,875
That, that's already in there.

1429
01:01:25,875 --> 01:01:27,685
So, oh, I, I can show you that after. And it's a

1430
01:01:27,685 --> 01:01:29,805
Little birdie said another meeting next week. This is

1431
01:01:29,805 --> 01:01:30,805
An old iteration.

1432
01:01:31,385 --> 01:01:32,385
Yep. Yep.

1433
01:01:32,835 --> 01:01:36,245
Requested increase. So the question was board

1434
01:01:36,245 --> 01:01:37,645
to discuss and possibly vote.

1435
01:01:38,385 --> 01:01:40,365
So we discussed already

1436
01:01:40,365 --> 01:01:41,965
Down, we Voted on one below,

1437
01:01:41,965 --> 01:01:43,205
but we're not voting on this

1438
01:01:43,735 --> 01:01:44,735
Right table.

1439
01:01:45,155 --> 01:01:46,325
What do we, we're

1440
01:01:46,325 --> 01:01:50,125
Tabling vote a vote on fiscal, fiscal year 27.

1441
01:01:50,125 --> 01:01:52,005
Budget proposal. I'm not done. Oh,

1442
01:01:53,715 --> 01:01:54,565
Okay. We'll, go ahead.

1443
01:01:54,565 --> 01:01:55,805
Can we put the leaf back on the table?

1444
01:01:56,935 --> 01:01:58,085
Where are we at with free cash?

1445
01:01:59,545 --> 01:02:00,885
What's the update and what's

1446
01:02:00,885 --> 01:02:02,005
our plan to get to where we need

1447
01:02:02,005 --> 01:02:03,005
To be?

1448
01:02:03,005 --> 01:02:06,605
Yeah, that, I just got a, so I spoke to

1449
01:02:07,525 --> 01:02:11,445
CLA today who was our, who was our interim accountant

1450
01:02:12,835 --> 01:02:15,725
last year, and they're gonna be helping us close

1451
01:02:15,745 --> 01:02:16,845
out fiscal 25.

1452
01:02:19,985 --> 01:02:21,605
And we'd spoken to town council

1453
01:02:22,185 --> 01:02:25,325
and there was a little bit of a discrepancy as to, to

1454
01:02:26,195 --> 01:02:30,765
your question, Anthony, was if free cash is not certified by

1455
01:02:31,275 --> 01:02:34,005
town meeting, whether town meeting can

1456
01:02:34,005 --> 01:02:35,085
appropriate the free cash.

1457
01:02:36,905 --> 01:02:40,125
So, so the, the, the end

1458
01:02:40,125 --> 01:02:42,005
of the story is, the answer is no.

1459
01:02:42,975 --> 01:02:44,445
Right? So,

1460
01:02:47,225 --> 01:02:49,645
So right now it looks like we have two options.

1461
01:02:50,265 --> 01:02:53,165
One is to appropriate from stabilization

1462
01:02:53,865 --> 01:02:56,005
and then replenish with free cash

1463
01:02:57,065 --> 01:03:01,645
or see if we can push town meeting to a, a later date

1464
01:03:02,425 --> 01:03:05,685
in this fiscal year, which I don't, I don't know that we can

1465
01:03:05,685 --> 01:03:09,805
because I, I think it's in the bylaw that, you know,

1466
01:03:09,835 --> 01:03:11,885
town meeting is the first

1467
01:03:12,585 --> 01:03:14,885
second Monday in May.

1468
01:03:16,505 --> 01:03:20,525
So, and that, that's, I just got off the phone

1469
01:03:20,525 --> 01:03:22,165
with them right before I came in here.

1470
01:03:22,305 --> 01:03:26,725
So still in, in conversation with, with town council.

1471
01:03:26,985 --> 01:03:28,405
And I'll have more, I have more

1472
01:03:28,405 --> 01:03:29,525
for you guys next week. So how

1473
01:03:29,525 --> 01:03:30,525
Did we get to this point?

1474
01:03:32,475 --> 01:03:35,805
It's a broader discussion. Definitely.

1475
01:03:38,345 --> 01:03:43,245
So we still have time basically when we approve,

1476
01:03:43,265 --> 01:03:44,605
if we approve the budget next week.

1477
01:03:44,605 --> 01:03:47,685
Right. And when certified cash has to be in to,

1478
01:03:47,685 --> 01:03:48,685
what's the deadline for it?

1479
01:03:50,865 --> 01:03:54,525
The free cash has to be certified Yep. By town meeting.

1480
01:03:54,995 --> 01:03:56,245
Okay. And may, May 11th.

1481
01:03:58,745 --> 01:04:01,805
And so if then when we put the warrant out, it has

1482
01:04:01,805 --> 01:04:03,565
to be in everyone's hands two weeks out.

1483
01:04:05,825 --> 01:04:08,725
And if we have it certified, then we'd have to put some kind

1484
01:04:08,725 --> 01:04:12,925
of amendment on the, on the stage if it, if it changes

1485
01:04:13,245 --> 01:04:14,245
Anything, it's the motion.

1486
01:04:14,545 --> 01:04:18,325
So, you know, let's say you guys close the warrant next,

1487
01:04:19,195 --> 01:04:22,125
next Tuesday and,

1488
01:04:22,265 --> 01:04:24,125
and Kim sends out the warrants

1489
01:04:24,825 --> 01:04:26,725
to town meeting members on, on Wednesday.

1490
01:04:26,725 --> 01:04:29,885
Everything's signed. It's just the articles.

1491
01:04:30,225 --> 01:04:33,285
The actual motion is what act is, is is the,

1492
01:04:33,305 --> 01:04:34,325
the actionable item.

1493
01:04:35,825 --> 01:04:38,445
So we have until May 11th, you know, where,

1494
01:04:38,945 --> 01:04:40,765
so we'll we will have everything prepped.

1495
01:04:41,265 --> 01:04:42,645
The warrant will be what the warrant is.

1496
01:04:42,665 --> 01:04:43,965
We might have to adjust language

1497
01:04:43,965 --> 01:04:45,205
depending on what you guys want to do.

1498
01:04:47,665 --> 01:04:50,725
And, you know, we'll have the motions ready to go.

1499
01:04:50,945 --> 01:04:54,245
And if it's not gonna go forward, we'll have to either

1500
01:04:55,235 --> 01:04:58,445
pull the articles or we'll have to use stabilization

1501
01:05:00,945 --> 01:05:03,245
and with the understanding that free cash will be coming

1502
01:05:03,315 --> 01:05:07,285
down the pike and then

1503
01:05:07,285 --> 01:05:10,845
that free cash will be, you know, replenish stabilization.

1504
01:05:13,105 --> 01:05:17,725
But yeah, I mean there's, there's, there's plenty

1505
01:05:17,745 --> 01:05:20,845
to talk about as to how we got here,

1506
01:05:20,865 --> 01:05:22,845
but right now is not, is not the venue for that.

1507
01:05:34,625 --> 01:05:38,765
Hm. What's next week's meeting?

1508
01:05:40,665 --> 01:05:45,205
Is it, is that a joint or No, no, just a, okay. Yep.

1509
01:05:46,315 --> 01:05:50,125
Imagine the agenda won't be this long. Next time should

1510
01:05:50,125 --> 01:05:51,125
Be much shorter.

1511
01:05:53,995 --> 01:05:54,285
Okay.

1512
01:05:58,795 --> 01:06:00,845
Alright. So lemme work on this agenda.

1513
01:06:03,645 --> 01:06:04,845
I Mean, I'm, I, Mr. Chairman

1514
01:06:05,545 --> 01:06:06,545
Yes.

1515
01:06:06,545 --> 01:06:08,565
Year after year. I mean, free cash has been an issue.

1516
01:06:08,725 --> 01:06:10,165
I mean, this year now it's, this is,

1517
01:06:10,195 --> 01:06:12,285
this is over boiled now.

1518
01:06:12,405 --> 01:06:14,645
You know, I think

1519
01:06:14,645 --> 01:06:15,805
that broader conversation's

1520
01:06:15,805 --> 01:06:16,885
gotta be had at some point in time.

1521
01:06:17,185 --> 01:06:20,885
You know, if we just can't continue like this

1522
01:06:22,185 --> 01:06:23,185
If Mr.

1523
01:06:23,185 --> 01:06:25,725
Chairman, so if, if there are personnel issues involved,

1524
01:06:26,295 --> 01:06:30,645
which this may involve, that can't be Right.

1525
01:06:30,945 --> 01:06:32,205
Had in open session.

1526
01:06:32,435 --> 01:06:34,405
Well, no, that's where I was kind of going

1527
01:06:34,405 --> 01:06:37,565
with next week's meeting is do we put in an executive

1528
01:06:40,335 --> 01:06:41,335
Could do that?

1529
01:06:48,125 --> 01:06:51,005
Hmm. I I would put it in there.

1530
01:06:52,225 --> 01:06:54,805
So it would be five what we were normally 5:30 next week

1531
01:06:54,805 --> 01:06:55,885
or did we have executive?

1532
01:06:56,545 --> 01:06:58,245
No, no, we're at 5:30 next week.

1533
01:06:59,155 --> 01:07:01,405
Well, seeing that certified cash in an effects town

1534
01:07:01,405 --> 01:07:03,845
meeting, then I would've, I would recommend putting in an

1535
01:07:03,845 --> 01:07:05,805
executive session for next, next week's meeting

1536
01:07:05,825 --> 01:07:07,405
for five o'clock prior to the meeting.

1537
01:07:10,195 --> 01:07:14,685
It's kind of like, like we normally do, it's a

1538
01:07:17,035 --> 01:07:20,605
talk about any kind of in open could be detrimental.

1539
01:07:21,105 --> 01:07:22,405
Mr. Chairman. Yeah. Yes.

1540
01:07:22,705 --> 01:07:24,965
As, as much as I would like to talk about, you know,

1541
01:07:24,965 --> 01:07:26,885
the personnel issue ahead of town meeting

1542
01:07:27,145 --> 01:07:30,485
and what happened, we should probably just get,

1543
01:07:30,665 --> 01:07:33,445
get across the, across the finish line for town meeting

1544
01:07:33,445 --> 01:07:35,805
and then we can worry about, you know, what's kind

1545
01:07:35,805 --> 01:07:39,565
of happening with personnel issues afterwards.

1546
01:07:39,585 --> 01:07:42,205
Or I don't know if we need to stack our deck without,

1547
01:07:42,825 --> 01:07:44,045
you know, in the middle of all

1548
01:07:44,045 --> 01:07:45,445
everything that's actually going on.

1549
01:07:45,565 --> 01:07:49,845
I think we could probably get a good review process of

1550
01:07:49,875 --> 01:07:51,205
what actually happened for the year

1551
01:07:51,545 --> 01:07:53,125
and then kind of come at it from a,

1552
01:07:53,245 --> 01:07:54,285
a, a different perspective.

1553
01:07:54,765 --> 01:07:55,885
I don't know that we need to add it

1554
01:07:55,885 --> 01:07:57,045
in the middle of our, our,

1555
01:07:58,885 --> 01:08:00,765
I it's more for, I, I don't disagree.

1556
01:08:00,845 --> 01:08:01,965
I mean, I don't think it's really gonna

1557
01:08:01,965 --> 01:08:03,205
change the process at all.

1558
01:08:03,635 --> 01:08:05,765
It's still, we're still gonna be backed up against town

1559
01:08:05,765 --> 01:08:07,765
meeting for free cash, whether we have an executive

1560
01:08:07,765 --> 01:08:09,485
session of what happened or not. I

1561
01:08:09,485 --> 01:08:13,885
Mean, personally I'd like to know, just know, in general.

1562
01:08:13,955 --> 01:08:15,925
Well though, you've seen, you saw my email

1563
01:08:16,385 --> 01:08:18,685
and, you know, you know, my position on it.

1564
01:08:18,745 --> 01:08:21,085
I'm, I'm, and I'm with you. I, I completely agree.

1565
01:08:21,405 --> 01:08:23,685
I just don't know that this is going to be conducive

1566
01:08:23,705 --> 01:08:27,205
to trying to get us where we need to be for town meeting

1567
01:08:27,985 --> 01:08:29,965
and instead of chasing, you know,

1568
01:08:30,025 --> 01:08:32,885
or even no putting people on the hot seat

1569
01:08:33,585 --> 01:08:36,205
in this situation right now, we can always come back and,

1570
01:08:36,225 --> 01:08:38,005
and put people on the hot seat right after.

1571
01:08:38,475 --> 01:08:40,645
Well I, I'm just saying is we're not putting anyone on the

1572
01:08:40,645 --> 01:08:41,725
hot seat then it's just more

1573
01:08:41,725 --> 01:08:43,565
of an explanation of what's going on. I,

1574
01:08:43,675 --> 01:08:44,605
I've said, I've said my

1575
01:08:44,605 --> 01:08:45,765
piece, whatever you wanna do, Mr. Chairman,

1576
01:08:46,005 --> 01:08:50,645
I mean it, I'd rather do the executive

1577
01:08:50,645 --> 01:08:54,125
because I mean, in general, I mean,

1578
01:08:54,675 --> 01:08:56,125
Well you're the chair, you can just

1579
01:08:56,125 --> 01:08:57,245
call it an executive meeting.

1580
01:08:57,245 --> 01:08:58,245
That's it. Just call it,

1581
01:09:00,055 --> 01:09:01,055
We'll have an executive.

1582
01:09:03,435 --> 01:09:05,125
It's, and to your point, yeah,

1583
01:09:05,155 --> 01:09:06,485
it's not gonna affect anything we do

1584
01:09:06,695 --> 01:09:08,605
after executive going forward.

1585
01:09:08,985 --> 01:09:12,165
The budget's, the budget and free cash is free cash.

1586
01:09:12,955 --> 01:09:15,245
It's just more of an explanation. Okay.

1587
01:09:16,635 --> 01:09:18,125
What are the two options again, Mr. Chairman?

1588
01:09:19,905 --> 01:09:21,485
So with free cash. Yeah.

1589
01:09:22,625 --> 01:09:24,925
One is is that we take from, we go from stabilization

1590
01:09:24,925 --> 01:09:26,165
to offset and then replenish

1591
01:09:26,165 --> 01:09:27,765
or the other one is moving town meeting.

1592
01:09:28,435 --> 01:09:30,965
Well what's the, what's the chances

1593
01:09:30,965 --> 01:09:32,205
that we're actually gonna have free cash

1594
01:09:32,205 --> 01:09:33,285
certified by town meeting?

1595
01:09:34,315 --> 01:09:36,725
Well, if we have free cash certified by town meeting,

1596
01:09:36,725 --> 01:09:38,045
then there, there is no issue.

1597
01:09:38,925 --> 01:09:40,525
What's the chances of that actually

1598
01:09:40,525 --> 01:09:41,525
Happening?

1599
01:09:41,525 --> 01:09:44,125
When I asked CLA about that, they were, they were doubtful.

1600
01:09:47,075 --> 01:09:48,965
Okay. There's, there's a lot of issues going on.

1601
01:09:50,795 --> 01:09:53,005
Okay. Is there any impact to,

1602
01:09:53,705 --> 01:09:55,885
by using a stabilization fund, any impact to

1603
01:09:56,595 --> 01:09:59,405
bond ratings or anything like that? No. Okay. Thank you.

1604
01:09:59,995 --> 01:10:00,995
Well, We, that helps.

1605
01:10:01,225 --> 01:10:03,325
I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm under the assumption

1606
01:10:03,325 --> 01:10:05,405
that if we used stabilization

1607
01:10:06,265 --> 01:10:08,885
and a week later CLA certified free cash,

1608
01:10:08,885 --> 01:10:11,405
that it's just gonna, it's just gonna go right back

1609
01:10:11,405 --> 01:10:12,565
in that it won't be Yeah.

1610
01:10:12,575 --> 01:10:14,245
Until another town meeting that we

1611
01:10:14,765 --> 01:10:17,125
re replenish stabilization with it. Yeah.

1612
01:10:17,425 --> 01:10:20,245
We, we would just, you know, so there would be no,

1613
01:10:20,425 --> 01:10:22,085
no appropriations from free cash.

1614
01:10:22,745 --> 01:10:23,805
So typically, like I said,

1615
01:10:23,805 --> 01:10:25,245
we usually have like a million left

1616
01:10:25,245 --> 01:10:27,125
over whatever that number is.

1617
01:10:27,345 --> 01:10:28,525
We would have that in full

1618
01:10:29,025 --> 01:10:31,205
and then we would just, you know, depending on

1619
01:10:31,205 --> 01:10:33,245
how much we took outta stabilization.

1620
01:10:33,875 --> 01:10:35,125
Replenish stabilization,

1621
01:10:36,325 --> 01:10:39,365
I don't have any concerns about replenishing stabilization.

1622
01:10:39,615 --> 01:10:42,485
We're, you know, we're probably, our target is between seven

1623
01:10:42,545 --> 01:10:45,205
and 9% of the operating budget.

1624
01:10:45,295 --> 01:10:46,765
We're very close to 9%.

1625
01:10:47,385 --> 01:10:49,965
We have been putting in $300,000 every year, which is the,

1626
01:10:49,965 --> 01:10:53,485
the lowest, you know, we could certainly make adjustments

1627
01:10:53,505 --> 01:10:55,845
and, and get that back to where it needs to be.

1628
01:10:55,905 --> 01:10:57,525
If there was a shortfall, I don't expect there

1629
01:10:57,525 --> 01:11:01,645
to be a shortfall, but, you know, it's not ideal, obviously.

1630
01:11:02,305 --> 01:11:03,445
And, and we'll talk about that,

1631
01:11:04,185 --> 01:11:06,925
but it's not, it's not fatal, you know, it's just,

1632
01:11:06,995 --> 01:11:09,245
it's just not, it's not ideal.

1633
01:11:10,425 --> 01:11:12,645
One more question, Mr. Chairman Sanchez.

1634
01:11:14,785 --> 01:11:16,645
So from the year before we had certified X

1635
01:11:16,665 --> 01:11:18,085
and then we had 3 million left over.

1636
01:11:18,275 --> 01:11:21,045
Yeah. So can that 3 million still be used

1637
01:11:21,045 --> 01:11:23,485
or it has to be certified with this as well? Okay. Yeah.

1638
01:11:23,485 --> 01:11:25,245
Certified. So after, we'll Put it all together

1639
01:11:25,495 --> 01:11:26,565
After July 1st.

1640
01:11:27,275 --> 01:11:30,205
Free cash can't be touched again until it's certified.

1641
01:11:31,305 --> 01:11:32,565
That's where we're getting to.

1642
01:11:32,565 --> 01:11:34,005
Six and a half. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Thank

1643
01:11:34,005 --> 01:11:35,005
You.

1644
01:11:38,795 --> 01:11:39,085
Okay.

1645
01:11:48,295 --> 01:11:49,325
We'll see that.

1646
01:11:49,905 --> 01:11:52,605
Do we want sit here and discuss what we're gonna do then?

1647
01:11:52,625 --> 01:11:54,285
If, if we're not gonna have it ready?

1648
01:11:55,795 --> 01:11:57,325
Meaning we have two options.

1649
01:11:59,765 --> 01:12:02,045
I, I'm personally, I don't want to move town either.

1650
01:12:02,685 --> 01:12:04,125
I, I don't think we can move town meeting.

1651
01:12:04,365 --> 01:12:06,405
I think the bylaws fixed. I think the only

1652
01:12:06,405 --> 01:12:07,965
Option's gonna have to Civilization.

1653
01:12:08,275 --> 01:12:09,365
Yeah. So, okay.

1654
01:12:09,785 --> 01:12:11,845
And I wouldn't do that to the town members

1655
01:12:11,905 --> 01:12:12,905
Anyway.

1656
01:12:12,905 --> 01:12:13,885
No, no

1657
01:12:14,545 --> 01:12:15,545
One option.

1658
01:12:16,515 --> 01:12:18,325
Okay. We Would just be compounding a

1659
01:12:18,325 --> 01:12:19,365
problem if we tried doing it.

1660
01:12:19,475 --> 01:12:23,765
Yeah, I agree. Alright, so that one was board

1661
01:12:23,765 --> 01:12:26,165
to discuss and possibly vote and I there was a table.

1662
01:12:27,355 --> 01:12:28,445
Well, yeah, because we're gonna

1663
01:12:28,445 --> 01:12:29,565
wait until the numbers, you gotta

1664
01:12:29,565 --> 01:12:31,285
Wait until the pond At the end of the week.

1665
01:12:32,145 --> 01:12:36,485
Yep. Okay. Hey, look at

1666
01:12:36,485 --> 01:12:38,925
This new business board to approve

1667
01:12:38,925 --> 01:12:41,165
and assignments from meeting of March 3rd, 2026.

1668
01:12:42,265 --> 01:12:44,285
Mr. Chairman, I move to approve

1669
01:12:45,505 --> 01:12:49,365
the meeting minutes from Tuesday, March 3rd, 2026

1670
01:12:50,555 --> 01:12:53,165
with four members present.

1671
01:12:54,665 --> 01:12:56,325
Second Motion's been made.

1672
01:12:56,325 --> 01:12:57,565
And second. All in favor? Aye.

1673
01:12:57,745 --> 01:12:59,125
Aye. I abstain, right?

1674
01:13:00,755 --> 01:13:03,285
Yeah, you can abstain. That's fine. Take that one too.

1675
01:13:03,765 --> 01:13:05,405
Board to approve assignments for meeting

1676
01:13:05,405 --> 01:13:07,485
of March 17th, 2026. Mr.

1677
01:13:07,725 --> 01:13:11,085
Chairman, I move to approve the me meeting minutes from

1678
01:13:11,085 --> 01:13:15,005
Tuesday, March 17th with four members present.

1679
01:13:15,585 --> 01:13:18,005
Second Motion's been made. And second. All in favor?

1680
01:13:18,145 --> 01:13:21,045
Aye. Aye. Aye. An abstention

1681
01:13:22,265 --> 01:13:24,005
motion carries 4 0 1.

1682
01:13:24,005 --> 01:13:27,325
Both do abstention or to approve

1683
01:13:27,325 --> 01:13:28,885
and sign seasonal liquor licenses

1684
01:13:29,025 --> 01:13:30,805
for Gremio Lusitano Club Inc.

1685
01:13:32,993 --> 01:13:35,493
Ludlow Country Club and Ludlow Fish and Game Club Inc.

1686
01:13:34,825 --> 01:13:37,965
Ah, shoot

1687
01:13:38,625 --> 01:13:39,625
Mr.

1688
01:13:39,625 --> 01:13:40,125
Chairman,

1689
01:13:40,465 --> 01:13:41,465
Mr.

1690
01:13:41,465 --> 01:13:42,045
Gennette. I move, where is it?

1691
01:13:42,515 --> 01:13:46,085
Lost it. Third one down, new business.

1692
01:13:47,985 --> 01:13:50,645
Oh, Mr. Chairman, I move to approve

1693
01:13:50,645 --> 01:13:53,885
and sign seasonal liquor licenses for Gremio Lusitano Club

1694
01:13:54,025 --> 01:13:57,245
and Ludlow Country Club and Ludlow Fish Game.

1695
01:13:57,805 --> 01:14:00,605
Second. Motion's been made

1696
01:14:00,605 --> 01:14:01,885
and seconded. All in favor? Aye.

1697
01:14:02,145 --> 01:14:04,365
Aye. Motion carries five zero.

1698
01:14:07,295 --> 01:14:08,885
Board to review and sign the contract.

1699
01:14:09,425 --> 01:14:11,365
Pardon me. Board to review

1700
01:14:11,365 --> 01:14:13,925
and sign the contract between Access Care Partners

1701
01:14:14,305 --> 01:14:16,525
for its portion of the non-federal match required

1702
01:14:16,525 --> 01:14:18,805
of the Area Agency on Aging in the amount

1703
01:14:18,805 --> 01:14:22,085
of $3,626 and 6 cents.

1704
01:14:22,385 --> 01:14:24,205
Mr. Chairman, Mr. Gennette,

1705
01:14:24,485 --> 01:14:27,645
I move that we sign the contract between approve

1706
01:14:27,645 --> 01:14:30,245
and sign the contract between Access Care Partners

1707
01:14:30,265 --> 01:14:32,765
for its portion of the non-federal match required

1708
01:14:33,185 --> 01:14:36,005
of the Area Agency on Aging in the amount

1709
01:14:36,025 --> 01:14:39,325
of $3,626 and 6 cents.

1710
01:14:41,785 --> 01:14:44,485
Second. Motion's been made and seconded. All in favor? Aye.

1711
01:14:44,585 --> 01:14:48,405
Aye. Aye. Motion carries five zero. Board to approve

1712
01:14:48,405 --> 01:14:49,805
and sign the one day alcohol permit

1713
01:14:49,865 --> 01:14:51,405
for purse bingo to be held at St.

1714
01:14:51,405 --> 01:14:54,005
John the Baptist School on May 15th, 2026

1715
01:14:54,005 --> 01:14:55,205
from five to 10:00 PM

1716
01:14:56,345 --> 01:14:58,005
Can you do that one Manny? Sure.

1717
01:14:58,425 --> 01:15:00,165
Mr. Chairman, Mr. Silva,

1718
01:15:00,525 --> 01:15:02,885
I moved that we approved the one day alcohol permit for

1719
01:15:03,405 --> 01:15:05,045
purse bingo to be held at St.

1720
01:15:05,045 --> 01:15:09,005
John the Baptist School on May 15th, 2026

1721
01:15:09,035 --> 01:15:10,325
from five to 10:00 PM

1722
01:15:11,305 --> 01:15:13,605
Second. Motions been made and seconded.

1723
01:15:13,625 --> 01:15:15,325
All in favor? Aye. Aye. Aye.

1724
01:15:15,325 --> 01:15:16,445
Motion carries five zero.

1725
01:15:17,985 --> 01:15:19,525
Board to approve the environmentally

1726
01:15:19,525 --> 01:15:20,925
preferable products policy.

1727
01:15:22,205 --> 01:15:22,325
A

1728
01:15:32,625 --> 01:15:33,625
So, Mr.

1729
01:15:33,625 --> 01:15:37,725
Chairman, I can explain this. So in,

1730
01:15:37,745 --> 01:15:42,245
in the years past as part of the, the application package

1731
01:15:42,505 --> 01:15:47,405
for a recycling grant from the DEP, we would have

1732
01:15:47,405 --> 01:15:51,645
to, Jim Goodreau would send me, forward me an email

1733
01:15:52,525 --> 01:15:54,005
that I would send to all staff

1734
01:15:54,145 --> 01:15:57,485
and board members, essentially, you know, reminding people

1735
01:15:57,485 --> 01:15:58,685
that they need to, to recycle.

1736
01:15:59,515 --> 01:16:02,685
That was enough to suffice for the grant application.

1737
01:16:02,685 --> 01:16:05,765
They've, since DEP has since increased

1738
01:16:06,425 --> 01:16:08,285
or made the requirements more rigorous.

1739
01:16:08,505 --> 01:16:11,525
So now we actually have to have a, a policy that says,

1740
01:16:12,265 --> 01:16:15,525
you know, essentially encouraging

1741
01:16:15,705 --> 01:16:20,245
or requiring town employees to, to recycle.

1742
01:16:20,345 --> 01:16:21,345
And that's what this is.

1743
01:16:27,625 --> 01:16:29,845
Mr. Chairman, Mr. Gennette,

1744
01:16:30,085 --> 01:16:32,085
I move to approve the environmentally

1745
01:16:32,175 --> 01:16:33,685
preferable products policy.

1746
01:16:35,625 --> 01:16:39,285
Second Motion's been made and seconded. And all in favor?

1747
01:16:39,425 --> 01:16:42,165
Aye. Aye. Aye. Motion carries five zero.

1748
01:16:45,105 --> 01:16:46,105
Mr.

1749
01:16:46,105 --> 01:16:48,565
Chairman. So Jim, Jim put this together

1750
01:16:48,565 --> 01:16:50,645
and he put my name as the, as the signatory.

1751
01:16:52,345 --> 01:16:53,645
I'm happy to sign it. Or if

1752
01:16:53,645 --> 01:16:54,765
we, you want me to send it around?

1753
01:16:54,765 --> 01:16:56,085
You guys can sign it. Mr.

1754
01:16:56,365 --> 01:16:59,765
Chairman, I move to approve the town administrator

1755
01:17:00,025 --> 01:17:04,005
to sign the Environmental Preferable Products policy.

1756
01:17:05,465 --> 01:17:09,205
Second. Motions made and

1757
01:17:09,205 --> 01:17:10,485
seconded. All in favor? Aye.

1758
01:17:10,545 --> 01:17:14,845
Aye. Motion carries. Five zero.

1759
01:17:14,935 --> 01:17:17,485
There you go. Aye. I said

1760
01:17:17,545 --> 01:17:18,545
Aye.

1761
01:17:18,745 --> 01:17:22,765
Aye. Here, hold on.

1762
01:17:23,945 --> 01:17:24,945
Oh,

1763
01:17:26,515 --> 01:17:27,515
There's another one.

1764
01:17:27,995 --> 01:17:28,995
There's another one.

1765
01:17:35,195 --> 01:17:35,485
Okay.

1766
01:17:41,795 --> 01:17:44,965
Just I think that one's only one signature. Double check.

1767
01:17:45,155 --> 01:17:48,565
Yeah. Boards declare

1768
01:17:48,585 --> 01:17:51,725
the fire department's 2002 Pierce Arrow Tower as surplus.

1769
01:17:52,465 --> 01:17:53,925
Mr. Chairman, Mr.

1770
01:17:53,925 --> 01:17:58,125
Gennette, I move to declare the fire department's 2002

1771
01:17:58,125 --> 01:18:00,485
Pierce Arrow Tower as surplus

1772
01:18:03,385 --> 01:18:04,385
Second.

1773
01:18:04,385 --> 01:18:06,765
Motions been made and seconded. All in favor? Aye. A Aye.

1774
01:18:06,765 --> 01:18:09,165
Motion carries five zero Board to discuss

1775
01:18:09,165 --> 01:18:11,165
and approve adding the position of municipal finance.

1776
01:18:11,755 --> 01:18:12,885
Yeah, we already, yeah,

1777
01:18:13,185 --> 01:18:14,185
We voted.

1778
01:18:14,185 --> 01:18:14,605
Did we actually vote on it?

1779
01:18:14,965 --> 01:18:17,645
I believe so. Yeah. Did we? Yes we did. Yeah.

1780
01:18:18,755 --> 01:18:20,365
Okay. Tired? I don't think we did.

1781
01:18:20,725 --> 01:18:22,045
I don't think we voted on it. We did.

1782
01:18:22,055 --> 01:18:24,165
Carrie mentioned that. I don't think we voted. Oh

1783
01:18:24,555 --> 01:18:25,445
Yeah. Well,

1784
01:18:25,835 --> 01:18:26,835
Well let's do it.

1785
01:18:26,835 --> 01:18:27,925
have to vote again if, if,

1786
01:18:28,785 --> 01:18:30,205
Do it again or to discuss

1787
01:18:30,205 --> 01:18:31,205
and approve adding the position

1788
01:18:31,205 --> 01:18:34,445
of municipal financial direct finance director to the town

1789
01:18:35,325 --> 01:18:36,925
classification plan at the M7 level.

1790
01:18:37,745 --> 01:18:39,245
Mr. Chairman, Mr. Gennette.

1791
01:18:39,525 --> 01:18:42,565
I move to approve adding the position of municipal finance

1792
01:18:43,125 --> 01:18:46,565
director to the Town's classification plan at

1793
01:18:46,585 --> 01:18:47,765
the M7 level.

1794
01:18:48,905 --> 01:18:52,085
Second Motion has been made and seconded. All in favor?

1795
01:18:53,145 --> 01:18:55,605
Aye. Five zero. Board to discuss

1796
01:18:55,605 --> 01:18:57,925
and possibly vote the restructure committee liaison list.

1797
01:18:58,005 --> 01:19:01,125
I think I, I had,

1798
01:19:01,925 --> 01:19:04,005
I There's something in your packet for everyone.

1799
01:19:04,285 --> 01:19:06,045
I mean, we can chew on it right now if

1800
01:19:06,045 --> 01:19:07,085
you wanna look at it. And then,

1801
01:19:07,905 --> 01:19:08,905
Mr.

1802
01:19:08,905 --> 01:19:10,605
Chairman? Yes. I I think we should look at 'em

1803
01:19:10,605 --> 01:19:13,365
and then kind of study it a little bit

1804
01:19:13,365 --> 01:19:14,605
and see if there's something else that

1805
01:19:14,985 --> 01:19:17,005
No, that's what I was saying is saying that we don't have

1806
01:19:17,005 --> 01:19:19,565
to vote on it now, but yeah, that's something that I, I,

1807
01:19:20,365 --> 01:19:22,685
I was put in the, I put in the packet, sorry.

1808
01:19:23,625 --> 01:19:24,925
But if there's anything, 'cause I know

1809
01:19:24,925 --> 01:19:26,445
that there might be one or two.

1810
01:19:27,405 --> 01:19:29,805
I know Mr. Alves had said something at one point, so,

1811
01:19:30,425 --> 01:19:35,125
and based on actually worked out Anthony would be that

1812
01:19:35,125 --> 01:19:36,405
because he is vice chair

1813
01:19:36,545 --> 01:19:38,445
and I, I figured that's where it would end up.

1814
01:19:38,545 --> 01:19:41,245
But, so just if you guys just,

1815
01:19:41,445 --> 01:19:43,725
and I gave, I gave you one, right? And you have one? Yeah,

1816
01:19:43,725 --> 01:19:44,725
Yeah, Yeah.

1817
01:19:44,765 --> 01:19:45,845
I mean, just go ahead and take it

1818
01:19:45,845 --> 01:19:48,125
and we can, we can put it back on the agenda for next week.

1819
01:19:48,575 --> 01:19:50,765
Sorry, just so everybody knows, I'm comfortable

1820
01:19:50,765 --> 01:19:52,045
with this list, but if anybody wants

1821
01:19:52,045 --> 01:19:53,765
to move anything around, just lemme know.

1822
01:19:54,195 --> 01:19:57,405
Yeah. I mean, take take till next week. Yes.

1823
01:19:57,405 --> 01:19:59,045
There's nothing that has to be done right now.

1824
01:19:59,165 --> 01:20:01,005
I mean, we've gone later than

1825
01:20:02,015 --> 01:20:03,845
we've been a month or two after, so

1826
01:20:04,355 --> 01:20:05,355
Yeah.

1827
01:20:05,865 --> 01:20:08,245
So that'll be a table. Okay.

1828
01:20:11,705 --> 01:20:14,885
And we already did this one too. Did we?

1829
01:20:15,065 --> 01:20:16,925
Oh CIP board to discuss

1830
01:20:16,925 --> 01:20:20,605
and possibly vote on fiscal year 27 CIPC recommendations,

1831
01:20:21,025 --> 01:20:22,025
Mr.

1832
01:20:22,025 --> 01:20:26,165
Chairman. So the Capital Improvement Planning Committee has

1833
01:20:26,195 --> 01:20:27,485
made their recommendations.

1834
01:20:27,485 --> 01:20:28,725
They're presented here.

1835
01:20:29,355 --> 01:20:30,565
It's actually gonna be really easy

1836
01:20:30,565 --> 01:20:33,125
because there was only, there was not a lot of requests

1837
01:20:33,425 --> 01:20:37,245
and there was only one request that was not approved.

1838
01:20:38,025 --> 01:20:39,805
And that was the ACOs vehicle.

1839
01:20:40,965 --> 01:20:44,085
We tried working, we, well,

1840
01:20:44,585 --> 01:20:46,165
we, how do I wanna say this?

1841
01:20:48,125 --> 01:20:51,605
A request for an animal control officer vehicle,

1842
01:20:51,625 --> 01:20:53,285
excuse me, was in. Bless

1843
01:20:53,285 --> 01:20:54,285
You.

1844
01:20:54,465 --> 01:20:58,405
And we had started by asking, you know, what, what type

1845
01:20:58,405 --> 01:21:00,085
of vehicle does the ACO really need

1846
01:21:00,905 --> 01:21:02,445
and what is the price for that?

1847
01:21:03,155 --> 01:21:04,725
Well, when they came back with a price

1848
01:21:04,745 --> 01:21:07,885
and it was exorbitant, we said, well wait,

1849
01:21:07,885 --> 01:21:09,045
that's a little too much.

1850
01:21:09,905 --> 01:21:11,925
And then so we said, you know,

1851
01:21:11,925 --> 01:21:13,125
we really can't do that right now.

1852
01:21:13,125 --> 01:21:14,765
We might have to plan for something like that.

1853
01:21:15,585 --> 01:21:19,805
And then the ACO came back with a much cheaper vehicle

1854
01:21:20,025 --> 01:21:22,085
and we're like, well wait a minute, are we paying

1855
01:21:22,085 --> 01:21:24,565
for a vehicle that's not gonna meet the needs of her now?

1856
01:21:25,345 --> 01:21:27,045
So we kind of got caught in between.

1857
01:21:27,465 --> 01:21:28,965
So we're fully expecting to have

1858
01:21:28,965 --> 01:21:32,165
to review the ACO vehicle again next year just

1859
01:21:32,165 --> 01:21:34,125
to get some better information around it.

1860
01:21:34,425 --> 01:21:39,045
It was declined for that reason. Okay.

1861
01:21:39,045 --> 01:21:40,645
But that was the only thing that was declined.

1862
01:21:43,725 --> 01:21:45,565
There was one other consideration, though.

1863
01:21:47,565 --> 01:21:49,925
Normally we have HVAC units for the schools.

1864
01:21:50,955 --> 01:21:53,325
They didn't request any, we don't know why.

1865
01:21:53,465 --> 01:21:56,845
We don't know what happened. I had asked Mr. Manfredi

1866
01:21:56,845 --> 01:21:59,285
to go back to the school department and, and ask why,

1867
01:22:00,245 --> 01:22:02,565
because we have a lot of HVAC units

1868
01:22:02,945 --> 01:22:05,365
and they have about a 25 year lifespan on 'em.

1869
01:22:05,835 --> 01:22:07,365
It's almost like the police vehicles

1870
01:22:07,365 --> 01:22:08,605
replacing two every year.

1871
01:22:08,865 --> 01:22:10,405
If they lasted 25 years

1872
01:22:10,465 --> 01:22:13,925
and we have 50 of them, then we gotta, we gotta cycle

1873
01:22:13,925 --> 01:22:15,925
through them through a certain amount of time.

1874
01:22:15,925 --> 01:22:19,565
Otherwise we end up with a whole slew of them that need

1875
01:22:19,565 --> 01:22:20,725
to be repaired all at once.

1876
01:22:20,785 --> 01:22:22,445
So it's a kind of a routine thing.

1877
01:22:22,825 --> 01:22:24,845
If they don't need 'em, that's great.

1878
01:22:24,845 --> 01:22:26,445
Maybe we get a extra year out of 'em.

1879
01:22:26,445 --> 01:22:30,165
But I just wanted to make sure of what it was.

1880
01:22:30,165 --> 01:22:31,245
So I put out a request to them

1881
01:22:31,345 --> 01:22:33,445
to at least let us know what was happening.

1882
01:22:34,885 --> 01:22:37,405
I just did, I went through an energy audit with

1883
01:22:38,025 --> 01:22:40,805
NV five over the town's energy audit.

1884
01:22:41,265 --> 01:22:43,565
And I was on the roof at the,

1885
01:22:43,565 --> 01:22:44,645
I believe it was the high school.

1886
01:22:45,385 --> 01:22:49,645
And the walk-in freezer unit on the roof sounded like

1887
01:22:49,645 --> 01:22:50,685
it was gonna die in front of me.

1888
01:22:50,685 --> 01:22:53,325
It was horrible. So to not have a request at all

1889
01:22:53,345 --> 01:22:56,045
for at least that unit was kind of surprising to me.

1890
01:22:56,665 --> 01:22:58,085
So I let the school know about it

1891
01:22:58,465 --> 01:23:00,085
and they're gonna do a little bit of research

1892
01:23:00,085 --> 01:23:01,965
and they'll probably come back next year as well.

1893
01:23:02,315 --> 01:23:06,365
Well, you have one on here. Replace ca cafeteria hvac.

1894
01:23:06,705 --> 01:23:08,565
Oh, did they add it? Yeah. Did we add it?

1895
01:23:08,835 --> 01:23:10,485
Tony, did we add that? Do you remember that?

1896
01:23:11,405 --> 01:23:15,565
I, I think that was a, an addition from fiscal 28.

1897
01:23:16,365 --> 01:23:17,445
Remember? Oh, you

1898
01:23:17,445 --> 01:23:18,685
Did request it to move over you, right?

1899
01:23:18,685 --> 01:23:20,885
Yeah. Yep. Yeah. Yeah. I think it was, oh,

1900
01:23:20,885 --> 01:23:23,045
it was up, it was further in the 28. We moved it up.

1901
01:23:23,445 --> 01:23:24,245
I think that's what happened.

1902
01:23:24,565 --> 01:23:25,325
'cause there was a little bit of

1903
01:23:25,905 --> 01:23:27,005
You did request them to move one.

1904
01:23:27,005 --> 01:23:28,005
Yeah.

1905
01:23:29,265 --> 01:23:31,325
Oh, that's right. 'cause we just didn't want to get hit

1906
01:23:31,325 --> 01:23:33,645
with too many of them back into 2028.

1907
01:23:33,645 --> 01:23:35,685
Yeah. Yep. So we we advanced it.

1908
01:23:37,875 --> 01:23:39,085
Yeah. Well, there you go.

1909
01:23:39,085 --> 01:23:40,645
There you Go. Problem

1910
01:23:40,645 --> 01:23:41,645
Solved.

1911
01:23:41,645 --> 01:23:41,925
There you go.

1912
01:23:42,835 --> 01:23:44,485
Does anybody have any questions on this?

1913
01:23:45,865 --> 01:23:50,845
Nada. I I normally

1914
01:23:50,965 --> 01:23:53,485
I would read through these so the community can hear 'em,

1915
01:23:53,485 --> 01:23:56,205
but we're kind of pushing, pushing our luck. There's

1916
01:23:56,205 --> 01:23:57,205
No community.

1917
01:23:57,205 --> 01:24:00,565
There's no community listening, always watching. They're all

1918
01:24:00,845 --> 01:24:01,845
Sleeping.

1919
01:24:01,845 --> 01:24:02,725
They died off at the pond committee.

1920
01:24:02,955 --> 01:24:04,685
What The, weren't the Bruins playing tonight?

1921
01:24:04,955 --> 01:24:07,645
There's an asterisk next to the Gazebo Park sign

1922
01:24:09,905 --> 01:24:12,805
and it says favor funding, but did not vote.

1923
01:24:13,795 --> 01:24:14,795
Include

1924
01:24:18,385 --> 01:24:20,805
Design sign, gazebo Park, 32 free cash.

1925
01:24:20,835 --> 01:24:21,885
What, where are you seeing that?

1926
01:24:22,065 --> 01:24:23,405
The top one is digital sign

1927
01:24:23,405 --> 01:24:26,365
for Gazebo Park has an asterisk and on the back it says,

1928
01:24:27,705 --> 01:24:30,925
So Please note the CIPC, the committee favored funding

1929
01:24:30,945 --> 01:24:33,165
for this project, but did not take a vote on its inclusion

1930
01:24:33,185 --> 01:24:34,205
in the capital article.

1931
01:24:34,515 --> 01:24:35,515
Yeah,

1932
01:24:35,945 --> 01:24:36,945
Mr.

1933
01:24:36,945 --> 01:24:38,085
Chairman. Oh yeah, chairman James,

1934
01:24:38,105 --> 01:24:39,445
you were gonna bring it tonight. Yeah,

1935
01:24:39,555 --> 01:24:40,555
Yeah, yeah.

1936
01:24:40,555 --> 01:24:44,725
So this didn't meet the requirements as a capital project,

1937
01:24:45,225 --> 01:24:46,325
if I remember correctly.

1938
01:24:46,825 --> 01:24:48,645
And we did want it to get funded

1939
01:24:49,145 --> 01:24:52,205
and the select board can choose to fund it if they, they

1940
01:24:52,205 --> 01:24:54,445
so choose, but because it didn't meet a cap,

1941
01:24:54,585 --> 01:24:55,845
our capital requirement,

1942
01:24:57,825 --> 01:24:59,725
we didn't approve it for funding. Does

1943
01:24:59,725 --> 01:25:01,685
That sound, what did it fail to meet?

1944
01:25:04,205 --> 01:25:08,085
I don't remember. I I think it, if, if my memory serves,

1945
01:25:08,085 --> 01:25:10,605
it wasn't that it didn't meet the requirements.

1946
01:25:11,705 --> 01:25:14,965
We just, in the meeting it was talked about

1947
01:25:15,945 --> 01:25:18,965
and then it wasn't actually listed in the list of,

1948
01:25:19,305 --> 01:25:22,725
of capital that as, as you, you, you see it in the,

1949
01:25:23,825 --> 01:25:26,125
on the sheet with all the free cash expenditures and,

1950
01:25:26,145 --> 01:25:27,725
and I think the committee just missed it.

1951
01:25:27,725 --> 01:25:30,605
Correct. And then I don't know if it, it was Tony or,

1952
01:25:30,865 --> 01:25:33,765
or Lewis caught it that, that they didn't actually voted.

1953
01:25:34,135 --> 01:25:36,925
Right. So the discussion was, you know, they,

1954
01:25:36,925 --> 01:25:38,045
they generally sick that night.

1955
01:25:38,075 --> 01:25:39,085
Were in favor of it.

1956
01:25:39,925 --> 01:25:41,925
And that the select board, you know, can,

1957
01:25:42,025 --> 01:25:44,445
can ultimately vote to recommend it if, if,

1958
01:25:44,445 --> 01:25:45,485
if they're in favor of it.

1959
01:25:46,585 --> 01:25:49,445
So this 32 2 is included with the total number. Oh,

1960
01:25:49,445 --> 01:25:50,445
That's right.

1961
01:25:50,445 --> 01:25:51,485
So we didn't want to have a a I

1962
01:25:51,485 --> 01:25:52,845
wasn't calling another meeting.

1963
01:25:52,845 --> 01:25:53,885
Correct. I chose not

1964
01:25:53,885 --> 01:25:55,765
to call another meeting just for this either. Right.

1965
01:25:56,115 --> 01:25:58,125
Yeah. So you're bringing it. Yeah.

1966
01:25:58,305 --> 01:26:01,005
So it's, you're bringing it here now? Correct. Okay.

1967
01:26:05,665 --> 01:26:07,645
My comment on it would be yes, only

1968
01:26:07,645 --> 01:26:11,645
because I've had it in my notes that I think, you know,

1969
01:26:11,645 --> 01:26:14,605
just on the communication side is if it was either there,

1970
01:26:14,725 --> 01:26:16,085
I was thinking even front of town hall.

1971
01:26:16,145 --> 01:26:18,405
But is this gonna have like town events?

1972
01:26:18,835 --> 01:26:22,685
It's gonna say when the election is, things like that. Yeah.

1973
01:26:22,955 --> 01:26:26,885
Okay. I mean, I don't have a problem with it.

1974
01:26:26,965 --> 01:26:28,205
I think it could only help.

1975
01:26:29,115 --> 01:26:31,285
Well, especially since we had a very light year.

1976
01:26:32,185 --> 01:26:33,805
If we're gonna do anything like this,

1977
01:26:34,035 --> 01:26:35,525
it's probably the, the year to do it.

1978
01:26:36,385 --> 01:26:36,965
That's correct.

1979
01:26:40,825 --> 01:26:41,885
Any other comments on it?

1980
01:26:45,815 --> 01:26:47,365
Other Than the fact that we technically don't

1981
01:26:47,365 --> 01:26:48,365
Have free cash?

1982
01:26:48,365 --> 01:26:52,445
No, that was the Oh, that part. Yeah.

1983
01:26:53,305 --> 01:26:55,085
Do we table this too? Or do you vote on it?

1984
01:26:59,555 --> 01:27:01,605
Yeah, Because this hinges on free cash.

1985
01:27:02,825 --> 01:27:05,285
You know, I, Or do you vote on it now?

1986
01:27:05,285 --> 01:27:06,285
Just to be ready?

1987
01:27:07,625 --> 01:27:08,925
Not as far as the capital project,

1988
01:27:09,105 --> 01:27:13,205
but just kind of what's going on in the world right now.

1989
01:27:14,005 --> 01:27:15,685
Apparently fertilizer prices are going

1990
01:27:15,685 --> 01:27:17,925
to be going up exponentially.

1991
01:27:18,645 --> 01:27:21,685
That may change how the DPW has to purchase stuff.

1992
01:27:22,025 --> 01:27:24,205
And I'm just want to let everybody know

1993
01:27:24,205 --> 01:27:28,645
that there might be some operational expense associated with

1994
01:27:28,645 --> 01:27:32,245
that if they can even get it.

1995
01:27:33,725 --> 01:27:37,965
Hmm. And that's a bid process, right?

1996
01:27:40,155 --> 01:27:42,165
Yeah, the DPW does their. Yeah.

1997
01:27:42,905 --> 01:27:45,205
And, and the and the golf course. Yep.

1998
01:27:50,445 --> 01:27:51,715
Again, that's not a capital thing,

1999
01:27:51,715 --> 01:27:52,995
but I just really kind of wanted to,

2000
01:27:53,135 --> 01:27:55,875
it was in my brain space the other day to bring it up. So

2001
01:27:56,615 --> 01:27:58,715
If, if I could recommend Mr.

2002
01:27:58,955 --> 01:28:03,715
Chairman, maybe it is prudent to, to table it in the event

2003
01:28:03,715 --> 01:28:06,195
that, you know, we do have to use stabilization

2004
01:28:06,215 --> 01:28:07,395
and the board votes for it.

2005
01:28:07,795 --> 01:28:10,435
I can make, I can indicate

2006
01:28:10,435 --> 01:28:13,555
that the source is stabilization instead of free cash.

2007
01:28:13,655 --> 01:28:15,275
We don't have to redo the whole document.

2008
01:28:17,985 --> 01:28:20,235
It's a minor thing, but I think it's an important thing.

2009
01:28:25,495 --> 01:28:26,715
You should vote on it as a whole.

2010
01:28:26,735 --> 01:28:28,715
So does anyone, are everyone agree

2011
01:28:28,715 --> 01:28:29,795
with tabling this as well?

2012
01:28:31,415 --> 01:28:32,915
Yep. Yes. Okay.

2013
01:28:33,345 --> 01:28:37,395
Yeah. So I mean,

2014
01:28:40,465 --> 01:28:41,555
fire, we could approve,

2015
01:28:41,575 --> 01:28:43,035
but we'll approve it as one, I guess.

2016
01:28:44,655 --> 01:28:46,675
All right. That's tabled.

2017
01:28:50,785 --> 01:28:52,235
Alright. Did new positions

2018
01:28:52,235 --> 01:28:54,115
and reclassification requests.

2019
01:28:56,295 --> 01:29:00,955
And we already did the library with the M2 to M3

2020
01:29:01,045 --> 01:29:05,405
and M3 to M2. Board to review

2021
01:29:05,405 --> 01:29:08,725
and discuss annual town meeting warrant items, articles.

2022
01:29:09,645 --> 01:29:11,045
I already did That. That little thing.

2023
01:29:11,145 --> 01:29:12,285
We, we did some of them.

2024
01:29:12,585 --> 01:29:14,125
We did some of them, but not all of them.

2025
01:29:14,715 --> 01:29:16,205
I'll, I'll go quick. I'll go

2026
01:29:16,345 --> 01:29:17,345
Mr.

2027
01:29:17,345 --> 01:29:20,525
Chairman. Mr. Alves. We approve these one by one?

2028
01:29:22,545 --> 01:29:24,165
No, no. You, you don't have to.

2029
01:29:24,765 --> 01:29:26,805
I mean, if you want, if you want to, you know,

2030
01:29:28,345 --> 01:29:31,165
it depends on if you want to yank, yank an article or,

2031
01:29:33,595 --> 01:29:35,005
Well, some of these are annual anyways.

2032
01:29:35,355 --> 01:29:38,845
Yeah. I mean,

2033
01:29:38,845 --> 01:29:41,245
article one Town Officer reports, that's

2034
01:29:42,805 --> 01:29:44,245
Standard town committee reports.

2035
01:29:44,525 --> 01:29:46,085
Standard electronic voting devices.

2036
01:29:47,115 --> 01:29:49,125
Okay. So if we end up having a discussion on

2037
01:29:49,125 --> 01:29:50,165
one, we might have to vote.

2038
01:29:50,525 --> 01:29:51,925
Okay. Got it. Yeah. Okay.

2039
01:29:52,315 --> 01:29:57,165
Yeah. So Article one is

2040
01:29:57,165 --> 01:29:58,805
the Town Officer Reports article,

2041
01:29:58,895 --> 01:30:00,125
which is an annual article.

2042
01:30:00,275 --> 01:30:01,445
Same thing with Article two,

2043
01:30:01,445 --> 01:30:03,045
which is the town committee reports.

2044
01:30:04,405 --> 01:30:08,165
Article three is an electronic voting devices

2045
01:30:12,955 --> 01:30:17,205
Article that we'd use reserve funds

2046
01:30:17,305 --> 01:30:19,925
to purchase electronic voting devices.

2047
01:30:22,025 --> 01:30:24,525
So, you know what, what this would do is, instead of,

2048
01:30:24,745 --> 01:30:27,405
you know, town meeting members raising their hands,

2049
01:30:27,785 --> 01:30:31,485
they'd actually have a device that they would,

2050
01:30:31,515 --> 01:30:34,205
they would choose, they would obviously hit a button on the

2051
01:30:34,205 --> 01:30:35,205
remote and it would,

2052
01:30:35,205 --> 01:30:37,685
it would record their vote on, on the screen.

2053
01:30:39,705 --> 01:30:42,245
The, to the cost was $8,200.

2054
01:30:42,525 --> 01:30:46,725
I think that was for 150 or 200 of them.

2055
01:30:47,985 --> 01:30:50,645
And, you know, we'll have, we'll have some,

2056
01:30:50,645 --> 01:30:53,485
some more background information at town meeting.

2057
01:30:54,865 --> 01:30:56,005
You know, this is something Kim

2058
01:30:56,005 --> 01:30:57,925
and I have been talking about for a little bit.

2059
01:30:58,005 --> 01:30:59,205
A lot of towns are doing it.

2060
01:31:00,145 --> 01:31:03,165
It enhances transparency and it's more efficient.

2061
01:31:03,165 --> 01:31:06,205
It's more expedient. So any questions on that?

2062
01:31:07,555 --> 01:31:10,565
Article four is, would just change the bylaw

2063
01:31:10,565 --> 01:31:13,125
that would allow the electronic voting devices to be used.

2064
01:31:15,315 --> 01:31:20,005
Article five is the budget Article six revolving funds,

2065
01:31:20,005 --> 01:31:21,205
which is an annual article,

2066
01:31:21,235 --> 01:31:25,645
article seven Commission on Disability, which is their

2067
01:31:26,285 --> 01:31:28,085
funding of the $4,900.

2068
01:31:28,635 --> 01:31:30,805
Article eight is for Celebrate Ludlow.

2069
01:31:32,625 --> 01:31:35,685
If you recall last year there was, we, we removed funding

2070
01:31:35,705 --> 01:31:36,725
for Celebrate Ludlow.

2071
01:31:36,885 --> 01:31:39,485
'cause we've used the $5,000 in community funding from

2072
01:31:40,885 --> 01:31:45,205
from USA recycling to to fund Celebrate Ludlow.

2073
01:31:45,205 --> 01:31:46,445
But they do more activities.

2074
01:31:46,445 --> 01:31:48,405
So now they're, they asked for a little bit more funding.

2075
01:31:50,235 --> 01:31:54,205
Article nine is the annual chapter 90 funds acceptance.

2076
01:31:54,205 --> 01:31:58,645
Article 10 is the mass DOT contracting, article 11,

2077
01:31:58,715 --> 01:32:00,020
capital Improvements.

2078
01:32:00,020 --> 01:32:04,205
Article 12. The DIFF special revenue Fund, which we will use

2079
01:32:04,345 --> 01:32:09,245
to, it looks like we're going to be using that to, to, to,

2080
01:32:09,425 --> 01:32:10,645
to pave Steven Street.

2081
01:32:12,085 --> 01:32:14,845
Article 13 is the Finance Committee Reserve

2082
01:32:14,955 --> 01:32:16,565
Fund annual article.

2083
01:32:17,475 --> 01:32:19,605
Article 14, also an annual article.

2084
01:32:19,745 --> 01:32:21,485
The Building Infrastructure Fund.

2085
01:32:22,355 --> 01:32:25,405
Article 15 would fund seed money

2086
01:32:25,425 --> 01:32:27,365
for the general stabilization fund.

2087
01:32:28,365 --> 01:32:31,125
Excuse me, it would be, that's the, the $300,000

2088
01:32:31,125 --> 01:32:34,965
for the general stabilization fund, which we do every year.

2089
01:32:34,965 --> 01:32:39,365
Article 16 is the LHS Turf Field Replacement Fund.

2090
01:32:39,765 --> 01:32:41,365
We've been putting a hundred thousand dollars on

2091
01:32:41,365 --> 01:32:45,285
that fund every year until we have enough money to pay

2092
01:32:45,285 --> 01:32:47,605
for a replacement article.

2093
01:32:47,655 --> 01:32:50,245
Seven radio communications maintenance funding also

2094
01:32:50,245 --> 01:32:51,325
funded from reserves.

2095
01:32:51,995 --> 01:32:54,565
Article 18 we talked about with Carrie.

2096
01:32:55,315 --> 01:32:59,165
Article 19 would deposit seed money into the capital

2097
01:32:59,605 --> 01:33:01,245
stabilization fund, newly created

2098
01:33:01,835 --> 01:33:04,605
Article 20 would put seed money in the park

2099
01:33:04,605 --> 01:33:08,525
and rec capital stabilization fund also recently created

2100
01:33:09,515 --> 01:33:11,685
Article 21 would

2101
01:33:12,805 --> 01:33:15,605
dedicate $200,000 in reserves

2102
01:33:15,605 --> 01:33:18,405
to our Opeb trust fund. Yep.

2103
01:33:19,225 --> 01:33:22,565
On the opeb, I know Opep can be used for cemetery

2104
01:33:22,565 --> 01:33:24,365
and everything, but we're gonna use the,

2105
01:33:25,985 --> 01:33:30,165
the other funding source for the fence around the cemetery.

2106
01:33:30,165 --> 01:33:32,125
Yeah. Yeah. So Jim, Jim's aware of it.

2107
01:33:32,175 --> 01:33:33,205
Jim's on, on top of it.

2108
01:33:33,995 --> 01:33:36,445
Okay. So we're gonna, In fact, I just got the latest

2109
01:33:37,645 --> 01:33:38,645
Opeb can't be...

2110
01:33:38,645 --> 01:33:40,805
No, it's the, the summary Perpetual Care Cemetery. Oh,

2111
01:33:40,805 --> 01:33:41,805
Perpetual.

2112
01:33:41,805 --> 01:33:43,605
Okay. But you can use this. No. Yeah. You got

2113
01:33:43,955 --> 01:33:45,045
It's in the same op.

2114
01:33:45,265 --> 01:33:48,885
Yep. It's, it's not opeb it's, it's the

2115
01:33:49,445 --> 01:33:50,685
cemetery Perpetual fund.

2116
01:33:50,825 --> 01:33:53,485
But the statement has OPEB and,

2117
01:33:53,585 --> 01:33:55,125
and the cemetery fund and the state.

2118
01:33:55,195 --> 01:33:56,445
Same statement that

2119
01:33:56,445 --> 01:33:57,605
That's, I didn't know it either.

2120
01:33:58,765 --> 01:33:59,725
I looked at it, I was like, what?

2121
01:33:59,805 --> 01:34:00,845
I can't believe you could use that.

2122
01:34:02,235 --> 01:34:04,485
Well, they got a lot of money in their perpetual anyway.

2123
01:34:04,635 --> 01:34:05,845
Yeah, they do. They do.

2124
01:34:07,885 --> 01:34:10,685
Article 22 is submitted by the planning board.

2125
01:34:10,795 --> 01:34:15,205
It's a $10,000 request to, to pay Ms Sunnerborg,

2126
01:34:15,205 --> 01:34:17,685
who was here tonight to implement some

2127
01:34:17,685 --> 01:34:21,405
of the housing production plan recommendations.

2128
01:34:21,405 --> 01:34:23,805
Article 23 was the public safety HVAC

2129
01:34:25,195 --> 01:34:28,245
article 24 proposes

2130
01:34:28,345 --> 01:34:31,045
to move the annual town election date to

2131
01:34:31,645 --> 01:34:33,165
the third Monday in May.

2132
01:34:34,345 --> 01:34:37,965
The reason for that, and, and Article 25 would change the,

2133
01:34:39,265 --> 01:34:40,365
or that's the town election.

2134
01:34:40,365 --> 01:34:41,685
The town meeting would be moved up

2135
01:34:41,685 --> 01:34:42,845
to the first Monday in April.

2136
01:34:43,505 --> 01:34:45,965
The reason for that is, you know, the,

2137
01:34:46,025 --> 01:34:49,325
the public safety HVAC bond is a perfect example.

2138
01:34:49,785 --> 01:34:51,805
So if town meeting approves the, the, the,

2139
01:34:51,825 --> 01:34:54,565
the the ballot question, we have to actually ho host

2140
01:34:55,785 --> 01:34:56,845
an unbudgeted and,

2141
01:34:56,945 --> 01:34:59,605
and unexpected special town election to the tune

2142
01:34:59,605 --> 01:35:01,125
of about $25,000.

2143
01:35:03,515 --> 01:35:06,325
It's also, as Tony's experiencing tonight, I mean he's,

2144
01:35:06,325 --> 01:35:08,525
he's, he's had the benefit of being on fin com,

2145
01:35:08,625 --> 01:35:10,645
but that won't always be the case.

2146
01:35:10,665 --> 01:35:13,445
So a newly elected select board member gets

2147
01:35:13,445 --> 01:35:14,845
dropped into the first meeting.

2148
01:35:14,845 --> 01:35:16,005
You're voting on the budget.

2149
01:35:16,005 --> 01:35:17,965
You're voting on, on town meeting articles.

2150
01:35:18,765 --> 01:35:19,925
It's highly inefficient.

2151
01:35:20,145 --> 01:35:25,085
So the, the reason that there's such a, there's 35 days

2152
01:35:25,195 --> 01:35:27,685
between the town meeting

2153
01:35:27,745 --> 01:35:30,565
and the town election is that's, that's a state law.

2154
01:35:30,565 --> 01:35:33,685
There needs to be 35 days between the, the time

2155
01:35:33,685 --> 01:35:35,645
that the select board votes

2156
01:35:35,705 --> 01:35:37,325
to put the question on the ballot

2157
01:35:37,585 --> 01:35:39,765
and when the, when the election actually takes place.

2158
01:35:43,875 --> 01:35:47,045
Article 26 would just change the references of Board

2159
01:35:47,045 --> 01:35:48,405
of Public Works to select board.

2160
01:35:49,315 --> 01:35:51,925
Article 27 is,

2161
01:35:52,105 --> 01:35:54,845
or the amendments to the Unreasonable Noise bylaw amendment

2162
01:35:55,465 --> 01:35:57,685
are the, the Unreasonable Noise bylaw.

2163
01:35:57,685 --> 01:35:59,325
I don't know if if Bill wanted to talk

2164
01:35:59,325 --> 01:36:00,405
to that at all. This is his.

2165
01:36:00,515 --> 01:36:04,325
Yeah. This, this was, we got the actual

2166
01:36:07,435 --> 01:36:08,725
Ordinance ordinance

2167
01:36:08,945 --> 01:36:12,845
In place and originally we had put in decibels,

2168
01:36:12,905 --> 01:36:15,365
but then we dec I guess it was decided not to

2169
01:36:15,365 --> 01:36:20,325
because the feeling was that it might not have passed with

2170
01:36:20,945 --> 01:36:22,805
the ordinance and the decibels

2171
01:36:24,335 --> 01:36:26,605
after feedback from citizens,

2172
01:36:30,465 --> 01:36:32,165
we decide, at least I decided,

2173
01:36:32,185 --> 01:36:34,525
and I don't think the board, the board's fine with it,

2174
01:36:34,525 --> 01:36:36,405
that obviously this is something that goes to the,

2175
01:36:37,145 --> 01:36:41,005
to the citizens is that we 65 decibels from 7:00 AM

2176
01:36:41,005 --> 01:36:44,165
to 10:00 PM and 50 decibels from 10:00 PM to 7:00 AM

2177
01:36:44,905 --> 01:36:46,285
in essence this ordinance

2178
01:36:47,145 --> 01:36:49,245
or this unreasonable

2179
01:36:49,335 --> 01:36:52,925
noise standards.

2180
01:36:52,945 --> 01:36:54,685
And now decibels give something

2181
01:36:54,685 --> 01:36:57,445
that the police can at least have a guidelines to.

2182
01:36:57,705 --> 01:36:59,205
In the past, there really were none.

2183
01:37:00,585 --> 01:37:02,725
And they're obviously, we had some discussion,

2184
01:37:02,725 --> 01:37:05,205
I had some discussion with the chief just saying, Hey,

2185
01:37:06,165 --> 01:37:09,205
I think they're $40 for the forum if we could equip,

2186
01:37:09,455 --> 01:37:11,005
equip the police officers with 'em.

2187
01:37:11,005 --> 01:37:13,205
So if they go out on a call, they have 'em with 'em.

2188
01:37:15,945 --> 01:37:18,725
So, Mr. Chairman, I have questions.

2189
01:37:20,545 --> 01:37:25,005
So this whole 50 decibels from 10:00 PM to 7:00 AM

2190
01:37:26,925 --> 01:37:29,285
exterior construction maintenance, all this other stuff.

2191
01:37:29,385 --> 01:37:31,405
So your neighbor can get out on their roof

2192
01:37:31,465 --> 01:37:33,005
and start doing roofing.

2193
01:37:33,225 --> 01:37:35,245
Not that they would do roofing in the middle of the night,

2194
01:37:35,305 --> 01:37:38,725
but, and as long as they stay under 50 decibels,

2195
01:37:38,725 --> 01:37:41,565
this can all happen through the middle of the night.

2196
01:37:49,145 --> 01:37:52,805
It refers back to, so the construction noise standards

2197
01:37:52,805 --> 01:37:56,605
and the maintenance noise standards between

2198
01:37:57,665 --> 01:37:59,685
10:00 PM and 7:00 AM is is 50.

2199
01:37:59,705 --> 01:38:03,365
It would be 50 DBA 'cause it refers back to the,

2200
01:38:03,765 --> 01:38:05,325
I don't think there should be any noise

2201
01:38:05,325 --> 01:38:06,805
allowance in the middle of the night.

2202
01:38:11,465 --> 01:38:13,445
You know, we already got a problem

2203
01:38:13,445 --> 01:38:16,205
with dumpsters getting picked up in neighborhoods

2204
01:38:16,585 --> 01:38:17,765
at four o'clock in the morning.

2205
01:38:19,425 --> 01:38:21,645
You know, and they're gonna go, well it wasn't 50 decibels

2206
01:38:21,645 --> 01:38:22,885
or nobody's been reading it.

2207
01:38:22,985 --> 01:38:27,005
And I just don't know that I,

2208
01:38:27,085 --> 01:38:29,765
I like the whole 50 decibels from 10:00 PM

2209
01:38:29,825 --> 01:38:31,605
to 7:00 AM And I also think that

2210
01:38:31,885 --> 01:38:33,565
that's gonna tank your tank, your article.

2211
01:38:34,995 --> 01:38:38,525
Well, so let's, let's go back to the original thing is

2212
01:38:38,525 --> 01:38:41,045
that the thing would've been tanked with decibels in

2213
01:38:41,045 --> 01:38:42,045
It.

2214
01:38:42,045 --> 01:38:45,045
So I'm just saying if you do your 65 decibels from 7:00 AM

2215
01:38:45,065 --> 01:38:47,125
to 10:00 PM and leave it, I think you're probably fine.

2216
01:38:47,145 --> 01:38:50,005
But as soon as you allocate that, you can have up

2217
01:38:50,205 --> 01:38:53,805
to 50 decibels of noise from 10:00 PM to seven.

2218
01:38:53,945 --> 01:38:54,945
Am you,

2219
01:38:55,585 --> 01:38:58,085
But in the same sense is if we're gonna put the decibels

2220
01:38:58,085 --> 01:38:59,365
in almost every community

2221
01:38:59,365 --> 01:39:01,005
that does these decibel levels Yeah.

2222
01:39:01,505 --> 01:39:04,645
Has a, has a till 10 or 11 or even midnight

2223
01:39:05,305 --> 01:39:07,285
and then they have decibel levels after.

2224
01:39:07,865 --> 01:39:10,285
And is 50 a decent decibel level for that?

2225
01:39:10,315 --> 01:39:12,645
Yeah, it's actually in some instances it's been higher.

2226
01:39:12,795 --> 01:39:17,365
Some it's been lower. And the, the 65, that's been up

2227
01:39:17,365 --> 01:39:19,845
to 70, up to 75, I think.

2228
01:39:20,585 --> 01:39:22,205
And, and looking at the research,

2229
01:39:22,205 --> 01:39:24,045
because those were the actual original numbers

2230
01:39:24,045 --> 01:39:26,165
that we had put out. Yeah,

2231
01:39:26,385 --> 01:39:28,365
You I'm sorry.

2232
01:39:28,425 --> 01:39:29,965
No, no, go ahead. You also have establishments.

2233
01:39:29,965 --> 01:39:30,965
They're open till 2:00 AM

2234
01:39:32,355 --> 01:39:33,355
Yeah.

2235
01:39:33,355 --> 01:39:34,925
But they can't have outside music playing until,

2236
01:39:35,915 --> 01:39:37,125
Well does this, that's for

2237
01:39:37,125 --> 01:39:38,565
outside music or is it for all noise?

2238
01:39:38,715 --> 01:39:41,525
Well, they can now because they can, they can do it.

2239
01:39:41,525 --> 01:39:43,325
They can play till 7:00 AM if as long

2240
01:39:43,325 --> 01:39:44,725
as it's under 50 decibels.

2241
01:39:46,185 --> 01:39:48,325
You can have an acoustic band playing out all night.

2242
01:39:49,225 --> 01:39:52,165
No, because they, their ordinances No, they have

2243
01:39:52,165 --> 01:39:53,405
or on their, on their license.

2244
01:39:55,275 --> 01:39:58,245
It's also based the, their, their licenses also have,

2245
01:39:58,735 --> 01:40:00,485
based on cer, they have 'em on their,

2246
01:40:00,485 --> 01:40:02,565
because actually, to tell you the truth, if we want to get

2247
01:40:03,625 --> 01:40:06,805
Vanish Valley, it says till 12:00 AM But his hours

2248
01:40:06,865 --> 01:40:08,405
of business are till nine.

2249
01:40:09,435 --> 01:40:11,405
Yeah. He He, he cuts it. Yeah,

2250
01:40:11,905 --> 01:40:13,085
That's, he cuts it.

2251
01:40:13,235 --> 01:40:15,605
Yeah. I mean there's been instances where it's been 9 0 7

2252
01:40:15,705 --> 01:40:16,805
or something, but it's like...

2253
01:40:17,805 --> 01:40:19,165
I just, I, I think this is dangerous is all

2254
01:40:19,955 --> 01:40:20,955
That.

2255
01:40:20,955 --> 01:40:22,605
I'm telling you, when you put decibel levels

2256
01:40:22,625 --> 01:40:24,565
and everything, that's basically

2257
01:40:24,565 --> 01:40:27,165
how it's done anywhere else.

2258
01:40:28,715 --> 01:40:31,645
There's the window of time during the day

2259
01:40:31,645 --> 01:40:33,085
and then there's the window of time at night.

2260
01:40:33,405 --> 01:40:36,685
I agree with putting decibels for your hours of operation.

2261
01:40:36,775 --> 01:40:41,365
7:00 AM to 10:00 PM is quite the, the range for you

2262
01:40:41,525 --> 01:40:44,925
to have noise, construction, all those things.

2263
01:40:44,945 --> 01:40:46,045
So here's the flip side.

2264
01:40:46,045 --> 01:40:47,765
If you don't put in the nighttime ones,

2265
01:40:47,765 --> 01:40:49,845
that means it could be a hundred, right?

2266
01:40:49,915 --> 01:40:52,405
There's no, there's no discerning it. Right?

2267
01:40:52,665 --> 01:40:54,365
You, you don't have any kind of number on

2268
01:40:54,365 --> 01:40:55,365
It.

2269
01:40:55,365 --> 01:40:55,725
Well, you could say those activities

2270
01:40:55,725 --> 01:40:57,685
are prohibited during that time. Oh

2271
01:40:58,115 --> 01:40:59,115
Sure.

2272
01:41:00,995 --> 01:41:02,445
What was that Anthony? I'm sorry. It's

2273
01:41:02,445 --> 01:41:03,445
Sorry.

2274
01:41:04,705 --> 01:41:06,685
I'm two hours late for bed. I'm two hours late for bed.

2275
01:41:09,005 --> 01:41:10,125
I said, what did I say?

2276
01:41:10,305 --> 01:41:14,685
You could have, I thought it said this

2277
01:41:14,685 --> 01:41:16,205
last in the last one.

2278
01:41:16,665 --> 01:41:18,885
You know, activities are generally prohibited

2279
01:41:19,905 --> 01:41:23,605
or are prohibited during the hours of X and Y.

2280
01:41:24,035 --> 01:41:25,685
That works, It'll definitely tank

2281
01:41:26,225 --> 01:41:26,885
Mr. Chairman.

2282
01:41:27,545 --> 01:41:29,445
Mr. Alves, Unless you're not done. No,

2283
01:41:29,445 --> 01:41:30,445
I'm good.

2284
01:41:33,065 --> 01:41:35,245
If I put this bylaw aside and,

2285
01:41:35,385 --> 01:41:36,725
and I know you're, you're trying

2286
01:41:36,725 --> 01:41:39,165
to promote this from a good spot, just in a general sense.

2287
01:41:40,025 --> 01:41:42,365
I'm not a fan of re-litigating something.

2288
01:41:42,365 --> 01:41:44,005
We just put out six.

2289
01:41:44,205 --> 01:41:45,685
I would say that about anything we were trying to change

2290
01:41:45,685 --> 01:41:48,205
that we just approved six months ago.

2291
01:41:48,715 --> 01:41:52,765
Just 'cause we haven't seen, I I haven't gotten comments

2292
01:41:53,285 --> 01:41:56,765
positive or negative that it's working. That it's not. I

2293
01:41:57,475 --> 01:41:59,485
There's been, you guys may have, there's no, there's no,

2294
01:41:59,555 --> 01:42:00,885
there's been no outdoor music.

2295
01:42:00,935 --> 01:42:04,565
Right. So I I think that proves my point almost that we,

2296
01:42:04,565 --> 01:42:06,005
we just approved something in October.

2297
01:42:06,065 --> 01:42:07,445
We haven't even seen if that works.

2298
01:42:08,505 --> 01:42:10,685
And again, I'm putting this aside, any article.

2299
01:42:10,825 --> 01:42:12,405
If if we were trying to tweak six months

2300
01:42:12,405 --> 01:42:13,605
later, I probably wouldn't be.

2301
01:42:16,985 --> 01:42:18,805
That's all. But

2302
01:42:18,845 --> 01:42:19,965
I, I know you're trying to do the right thing.

2303
01:42:20,505 --> 01:42:24,725
I'm not Well understanding the, how it started

2304
01:42:25,305 --> 01:42:26,325
and where it got to,

2305
01:42:30,625 --> 01:42:31,625
I'm not, I'm not,

2306
01:42:31,625 --> 01:42:33,085
You know, the road that we're gonna go down, if this,

2307
01:42:33,145 --> 01:42:34,565
if this article doesn't go in,

2308
01:42:35,665 --> 01:42:36,645
Mr. Chairman, we can

2309
01:42:36,645 --> 01:42:37,605
Vote, we can put it in. We can

2310
01:42:37,955 --> 01:42:38,955
Well that's the thing.

2311
01:42:39,305 --> 01:42:40,525
Voting on it. And I'll tell you

2312
01:42:40,525 --> 01:42:42,965
what, you know, what's gonna happen. Well,

2313
01:42:43,525 --> 01:42:44,525
Absolutely.

2314
01:42:44,525 --> 01:42:47,405
It's already happened. I already got called,

2315
01:42:48,915 --> 01:42:49,925
It's gonna get shot down.

2316
01:42:51,345 --> 01:42:53,685
That's why we didn't put it in originally. Mr. Sanches.

2317
01:42:53,745 --> 01:42:57,285
Oh no. It just says construction is permitted

2318
01:42:57,285 --> 01:42:59,245
between 7:00 AM and 8:00 PM Yeah, that's,

2319
01:42:59,245 --> 01:43:00,565
That's what I was getting at. And then

2320
01:43:00,785 --> 01:43:02,285
In There somewhere, it tells you when

2321
01:43:02,285 --> 01:43:03,285
You can do it.

2322
01:43:03,285 --> 01:43:04,445
Yeah. It's only right, it's only prohibited

2323
01:43:04,445 --> 01:43:06,845
between the 65 decibel

2324
01:43:07,385 --> 01:43:10,285
and also construction is not permitted on Sundays.

2325
01:43:11,945 --> 01:43:13,965
So you can't do construction at night regardless,

2326
01:43:14,115 --> 01:43:15,285
according to number two.

2327
01:43:17,625 --> 01:43:20,365
Or I'm sorry, after 8:00 PM

2328
01:43:21,945 --> 01:43:23,085
on weekdays and Saturdays.

2329
01:43:24,585 --> 01:43:26,645
So each one of 'em has, and then you have maintenance noise

2330
01:43:27,115 --> 01:43:30,405
also between 7:00 AM and 8:00 PM weekdays

2331
01:43:30,405 --> 01:43:33,165
and Saturdays generally prohibited on Sundays.

2332
01:43:33,425 --> 01:43:35,525
So that would be, dumpsters would be included in that.

2333
01:43:36,785 --> 01:43:38,125
So, well,

2334
01:43:38,625 --> 01:43:41,205
You're never gonna get it passed based on dumpsters

2335
01:43:41,205 --> 01:43:43,125
because then we've had this maintenance discussion.

2336
01:43:43,125 --> 01:43:47,045
Mainten is now you've got USA's gotta wait until 7:00 AM

2337
01:43:47,475 --> 01:43:48,565
Yeah, they got, they have an,

2338
01:43:48,565 --> 01:43:50,365
or I don't think it's seven though.

2339
01:43:50,555 --> 01:43:51,555
They have an ordinance.

2340
01:43:52,755 --> 01:43:54,525
Yeah, it's something It it, yeah,

2341
01:43:54,525 --> 01:43:56,885
it's a little, little fluffy. I think it's 7:00 AM

2342
01:43:57,075 --> 01:43:59,205
Past three locations I've lived in, in, in town.

2343
01:43:59,235 --> 01:44:02,365
There's dumpsters being picked up between three and 5:00 AM

2344
01:44:03,205 --> 01:44:04,205
It's ridiculous.

2345
01:44:06,075 --> 01:44:07,295
It sort of Rough. I won't say where

2346
01:44:07,295 --> 01:44:08,455
because it's not the business's fault.

2347
01:44:08,455 --> 01:44:09,455
Yeah,

2348
01:44:10,515 --> 01:44:11,515
No.

2349
01:44:11,515 --> 01:44:12,735
If I, if I was a dumpster business,

2350
01:44:12,855 --> 01:44:14,335
I would want do it in the middle of the night too.

2351
01:44:14,475 --> 01:44:16,095
That's what I would want. But

2352
01:44:16,095 --> 01:44:18,015
that doesn't mean the residents are appreciating it,

2353
01:44:21,155 --> 01:44:22,155
Mr.

2354
01:44:22,155 --> 01:44:23,175
Chairman. No, I don't, I don't disagree with the fact

2355
01:44:23,175 --> 01:44:26,375
that one, not picking up trash at 3:00 AM But if someone's

2356
01:44:26,375 --> 01:44:28,655
picking it up at five or 6:00 AM I guarantee you

2357
01:44:28,655 --> 01:44:30,775
that when you go into the next contract negotiation

2358
01:44:31,195 --> 01:44:33,415
and you say it's not till seven, that

2359
01:44:33,415 --> 01:44:34,615
that fee's gonna go up.

2360
01:44:38,235 --> 01:44:40,415
I'm just, 'cause you've limi you're limiting their hours.

2361
01:44:41,565 --> 01:44:42,935
Well that's a good, that's a good angle.

2362
01:44:43,055 --> 01:44:44,055
I hadn't thought of that,

2363
01:44:45,715 --> 01:44:46,715
Mr.

2364
01:44:46,715 --> 01:44:47,535
Chairman. So the bylaws already done.

2365
01:44:47,645 --> 01:44:49,415
It's, you're just adding what's in, just

2366
01:44:49,415 --> 01:44:50,935
Adding the, that one dec,

2367
01:44:50,985 --> 01:44:52,695
those two lines with the decibels.

2368
01:44:52,695 --> 01:44:54,175
Okay. I think we did the

2369
01:44:54,175 --> 01:44:55,175
Rest of it's already done.

2370
01:44:55,755 --> 01:44:58,015
It went through, it was ratified by the attorney general.

2371
01:44:58,115 --> 01:45:00,175
It, it usually took a few months. Okay.

2372
01:45:00,695 --> 01:45:03,535
We did that one at October. Is that October?

2373
01:45:03,845 --> 01:45:05,575
Yeah, that one was October

2374
01:45:05,635 --> 01:45:09,215
and it got probably a couple months ago.

2375
01:45:09,515 --> 01:45:12,855
So this is to solidify a number decibel.

2376
01:45:13,805 --> 01:45:16,655
It's, it's, it's to give guidelines also Guidelines.

2377
01:45:16,655 --> 01:45:18,335
Okay. Tools

2378
01:45:18,515 --> 01:45:21,295
To, to be honest, I mean the, the decibel levels

2379
01:45:21,295 --> 01:45:25,375
that we were told was like 127, which was near impossible.

2380
01:45:26,035 --> 01:45:28,375
So you don't, Mr.

2381
01:45:28,615 --> 01:45:30,175
Chairman, you don't think this is gonna pass.

2382
01:45:36,355 --> 01:45:39,575
It barely pa, actually the article itself without the

2383
01:45:39,575 --> 01:45:41,775
decibels barely passed, if I remember correctly.

2384
01:45:41,995 --> 01:45:44,135
So if you believe that this is not gonna pass,

2385
01:45:44,375 --> 01:45:46,015
I would recommend that you pull it off.

2386
01:45:46,035 --> 01:45:48,135
And much for what Anthony said too,

2387
01:45:48,135 --> 01:45:50,775
we get an a better op opportunity

2388
01:45:50,795 --> 01:45:52,455
to see what's happening in the community

2389
01:45:52,995 --> 01:45:56,215
and come back at it at a different time when it probably has

2390
01:45:56,255 --> 01:45:58,055
a better chance to, to even be,

2391
01:45:58,725 --> 01:45:59,975
well, I don't better received

2392
01:46:00,595 --> 01:46:01,595
Mr.

2393
01:46:01,595 --> 01:46:03,335
Chairman, I don't think we should pull it off

2394
01:46:03,365 --> 01:46:06,815
because we had it, A lot of people in here,

2395
01:46:06,875 --> 01:46:09,135
we actually told them that we are going

2396
01:46:09,135 --> 01:46:10,855
to put this article to town meeting.

2397
01:46:11,115 --> 01:46:13,295
Oh, okay. With desa was, if you recall, I

2398
01:46:13,295 --> 01:46:15,015
that's, we did tell him that. It

2399
01:46:15,495 --> 01:46:18,015
Actually, I I don't think you were here for that,

2400
01:46:18,285 --> 01:46:22,535
that initial one. Yeah, I mean, it, it, it,

2401
01:46:22,795 --> 01:46:24,015
But I'm part of the board. I get it. Yeah.

2402
01:46:24,015 --> 01:46:27,135
Yeah. No, I mean it's, you can more than make the,

2403
01:46:27,195 --> 01:46:30,815
the motion to not have it and we vote on it. I

2404
01:46:31,035 --> 01:46:33,295
I'm just thinking that you, if if this goes in

2405
01:46:33,295 --> 01:46:34,335
and you're expecting it to fail,

2406
01:46:34,445 --> 01:46:36,215
it's not gonna be coming back any, anytime.

2407
01:46:39,855 --> 01:46:42,655
I think it's gotta pass. It, it could. I don't know.

2408
01:46:42,725 --> 01:46:45,735
Because last time, I mean, to, to be honest, I mean, maybe

2409
01:46:46,505 --> 01:46:50,005
minds have changed, but when we did the actual ordinance,

2410
01:46:50,985 --> 01:46:54,805
it was close and it might have been 10, 12 votes, 15 votes.

2411
01:46:55,565 --> 01:46:57,565
I I'm not, I'm not gonna make a motion to pull it.

2412
01:46:57,645 --> 01:46:59,485
I was just trying to make a, a debate about it.

2413
01:46:59,485 --> 01:47:02,085
And, you know, if, if you got it on there

2414
01:47:02,105 --> 01:47:03,965
and you want feel good about it, then, then

2415
01:47:04,825 --> 01:47:08,445
No, it is in the same sense we're, we're responding to

2416
01:47:09,925 --> 01:47:12,365
a large contingent of people in a whole neighborhood,

2417
01:47:13,385 --> 01:47:17,045
two neighborhoods that were very adamant

2418
01:47:17,095 --> 01:47:18,325
about what was going on.

2419
01:47:18,465 --> 01:47:21,885
And so it, it's to this point is that we're doing our job

2420
01:47:21,885 --> 01:47:23,245
by responding to the citizens

2421
01:47:23,505 --> 01:47:25,245
and now it's up to the rest of the citizens

2422
01:47:25,245 --> 01:47:27,165
to make the decision if they think this is correct.

2423
01:47:27,825 --> 01:47:29,965
So be it. So, you know, I agree,

2424
01:47:31,685 --> 01:47:33,005
I agree with all that to a sense.

2425
01:47:33,315 --> 01:47:36,845
Just, we haven't let the first part play yet. That's all.

2426
01:47:38,955 --> 01:47:41,125
What happens then is we get back into a full season,

2427
01:47:41,835 --> 01:47:44,045
like a whole summer of I'm not,

2428
01:47:44,065 --> 01:47:45,065
I'm not stopping It.

2429
01:47:45,065 --> 01:47:47,005
No, I know. Yeah. Okay. All right.

2430
01:47:48,915 --> 01:47:50,405
Okay. Me keep going, Marc. Yep.

2431
01:47:50,935 --> 01:47:53,365
Sorry I didn't, It's No,

2432
01:47:53,565 --> 01:47:55,525
I mean that's what we're here for.

2433
01:47:55,625 --> 01:47:57,245
We gotta discuss it. Yep.

2434
01:47:58,755 --> 01:48:02,885
Article 28 is, is the petition

2435
01:48:03,145 --> 01:48:04,885
for additional alcohol licenses.

2436
01:48:06,145 --> 01:48:10,045
So, you know, I I put in three additional on-premises

2437
01:48:10,045 --> 01:48:13,685
consumption, which would basically be, you know,

2438
01:48:13,705 --> 01:48:15,205
all alcohol for restaurants.

2439
01:48:16,355 --> 01:48:19,885
Just, you know, we, you guys can always reduce that

2440
01:48:20,625 --> 01:48:24,125
or we can, if town meeting approves it

2441
01:48:24,465 --> 01:48:27,125
and we get three licenses, you can always be discreet as to

2442
01:48:27,125 --> 01:48:30,685
how many of those you, you, you you award.

2443
01:48:30,745 --> 01:48:32,965
But I feel like it's an economic development tool,

2444
01:48:32,965 --> 01:48:37,325
particularly with, you know, hopefully East Street, you know,

2445
01:48:37,335 --> 01:48:39,485
developing a little bit and, and the mills.

2446
01:48:39,625 --> 01:48:41,085
So that's what that is.

2447
01:48:41,355 --> 01:48:43,885
Yeah. This one in general has been around for

2448
01:48:44,595 --> 01:48:47,205
Bill Rooney was on this one years ago too, right?

2449
01:48:47,385 --> 01:48:50,845
Yep. It's on premises. Sorry. No, yeah, it's on premises.

2450
01:48:50,915 --> 01:48:52,365
It's not more liquor stores

2451
01:48:52,625 --> 01:48:53,625
On prem...

2452
01:48:53,625 --> 01:48:55,525
Yep. No. So, and I think my whole thing is

2453
01:48:55,525 --> 01:48:57,285
that if something else goes into the mills,

2454
01:48:58,105 --> 01:49:01,925
if it ever any point Franks gets blown up

2455
01:49:01,925 --> 01:49:05,085
and something goes in there, you know, things of that nature

2456
01:49:05,435 --> 01:49:08,405
that it's just to be able to allow for,

2457
01:49:09,345 --> 01:49:11,805
and also at some point too is anyone that has beer

2458
01:49:11,805 --> 01:49:13,605
and wine, they can move into a full, right.

2459
01:49:14,105 --> 01:49:17,925
Yep. Which we like a bar burrito who was just, who wanted

2460
01:49:17,925 --> 01:49:19,245
to get into margaritas or something.

2461
01:49:20,045 --> 01:49:21,525
I I actually gotta message him

2462
01:49:21,525 --> 01:49:22,805
and see if he's actually done that.

2463
01:49:23,075 --> 01:49:25,965
Yeah. Okay. That's all. Thank you. Yep. What

2464
01:49:25,965 --> 01:49:27,405
Is, what would that bring the total to?

2465
01:49:29,025 --> 01:49:30,605
I'd have to look. I, I have, I have a chart

2466
01:49:30,605 --> 01:49:31,925
that has all the licenses on it.

2467
01:49:32,745 --> 01:49:34,205
I'd have to look, I can let you know.

2468
01:49:35,385 --> 01:49:40,045
I'm just curious. Article 31 is the

2469
01:49:40,045 --> 01:49:41,845
recreation department restructuring.

2470
01:49:42,825 --> 01:49:45,125
So this is, this would be a local act that needs

2471
01:49:45,125 --> 01:49:46,565
to be approved by the legislature.

2472
01:49:47,845 --> 01:49:52,525
Essentially what this article would do if passed, Excuse me,

2473
01:49:52,525 --> 01:49:56,685
it would, it would make the recreation Commission

2474
01:49:57,225 --> 01:50:00,925
an appointed board instead of an elected board.

2475
01:50:01,885 --> 01:50:04,725
The recreation department personnel would,

2476
01:50:04,725 --> 01:50:07,645
would then be supervised under the Department

2477
01:50:07,645 --> 01:50:11,325
of Public works with the thought being

2478
01:50:11,435 --> 01:50:15,485
that the Recreation Commission would be focused on policy

2479
01:50:16,085 --> 01:50:19,725
creation, program creation, things of that nature.

2480
01:50:20,365 --> 01:50:22,685
More of a policy and programming board.

2481
01:50:23,185 --> 01:50:26,205
And that the day-to-day management would fall under the

2482
01:50:26,205 --> 01:50:29,485
select board, the town administrator and the DPW director

2483
01:50:31,425 --> 01:50:34,925
and, you know, to, you know, make sure that the,

2484
01:50:34,945 --> 01:50:37,085
the grounds were were, were taken care of and,

2485
01:50:37,145 --> 01:50:39,405
and taking on equipment.

2486
01:50:39,405 --> 01:50:40,925
Equipment was, was up to par.

2487
01:50:41,325 --> 01:50:43,565
Buildings were, were taken care of.

2488
01:50:44,505 --> 01:50:47,605
And Yeah. But I think those are the highlights.

2489
01:50:50,355 --> 01:50:53,885
Last but not least is the senior work abatement.

2490
01:50:54,745 --> 01:50:58,765
We talked about this before when Eric Segundo came in,

2491
01:50:59,465 --> 01:51:01,685
the vet's, the, the vet's abatement.

2492
01:51:01,965 --> 01:51:05,245
He, he offers partial abatements based upon how many hours

2493
01:51:05,905 --> 01:51:08,365
of, of of work the veteran has done.

2494
01:51:08,545 --> 01:51:11,725
And so we're just matching that, we're just matching that

2495
01:51:12,275 --> 01:51:14,525
that feature and the senior work abatement program

2496
01:51:18,955 --> 01:51:19,955
Have a discussion.

2497
01:51:20,305 --> 01:51:24,285
Oh, that's right. Marc, could you go back

2498
01:51:24,345 --> 01:51:25,765
to stretch code?

2499
01:51:26,075 --> 01:51:29,085
Yeah. I misinterpreted this process. Okay.

2500
01:51:29,955 --> 01:51:32,645
Like when BJ was here, I took that as informational.

2501
01:51:33,195 --> 01:51:34,965
Yeah. So I held some of my comments.

2502
01:51:39,195 --> 01:51:41,685
It's Fine. So no,

2503
01:51:41,685 --> 01:51:43,205
I I know we just skipped over a couple.

2504
01:51:43,205 --> 01:51:44,205
That's what, that's all. Oh,

2505
01:51:44,585 --> 01:51:45,765
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

2506
01:51:45,865 --> 01:51:47,885
Oh yeah, yeah. Of course.

2507
01:51:50,745 --> 01:51:52,205
Why did you have something to say Manny? Hmm.

2508
01:51:56,025 --> 01:51:57,965
I'm kind of wishy washy on the, on the cat one.

2509
01:52:00,725 --> 01:52:01,085
I just,

2510
01:52:07,385 --> 01:52:09,365
are we creating like a paper tiger here,

2511
01:52:09,395 --> 01:52:11,045
like the enforcement, right.

2512
01:52:11,705 --> 01:52:12,885
Is it actually gonna happen?

2513
01:52:15,025 --> 01:52:17,725
And I had asked the question, you know, hypothetically,

2514
01:52:20,025 --> 01:52:21,525
if this were in place last year,

2515
01:52:23,065 --> 01:52:24,285
how many violations would we have?

2516
01:52:24,285 --> 01:52:25,285
And it was 10.

2517
01:52:26,675 --> 01:52:29,805
Well, she's had 10 warnings. Yeah.

2518
01:52:29,955 --> 01:52:31,365
Yeah. She didn't say that she would have

2519
01:52:31,385 --> 01:52:32,605
10 citations. I, I

2520
01:52:32,605 --> 01:52:34,605
Just, I don't know,

2521
01:52:34,605 --> 01:52:36,485
is this thing fully baked? I, I don't know.

2522
01:52:36,985 --> 01:52:40,045
That's a good question. So, you know, Mr.

2523
01:52:40,325 --> 01:52:42,645
Chairman, I don't mind if Anthony if you... No, I'm good.

2524
01:52:42,665 --> 01:52:43,965
Answer some of your questions a little bit.

2525
01:52:44,785 --> 01:52:49,645
You know, we had tasked the a CO to come up with policy

2526
01:52:50,905 --> 01:52:55,045
and as part of her full-time job when we made her full-time

2527
01:52:55,665 --> 01:52:59,205
and she came at us with policy and it was a lot.

2528
01:52:59,205 --> 01:53:02,085
And it was so much that we couldn't,

2529
01:53:02,875 --> 01:53:05,005
there's no way we put all of that in front

2530
01:53:05,005 --> 01:53:06,565
of town meeting 'cause it was just so much.

2531
01:53:06,825 --> 01:53:08,645
So we had to pick and choose and I think she

2532
01:53:08,645 --> 01:53:09,845
took a page outta that.

2533
01:53:10,225 --> 01:53:14,805
And she's picking one point of contact at a time,

2534
01:53:18,435 --> 01:53:21,365
whether I don't want

2535
01:53:21,365 --> 01:53:24,005
to say it should go not go forward or go forward or whatever.

2536
01:53:24,205 --> 01:53:28,045
I think that she's not

2537
01:53:29,045 --> 01:53:32,525
intended to be a policy maker by trade.

2538
01:53:32,935 --> 01:53:34,605
She's an A CO. Yeah.

2539
01:53:34,785 --> 01:53:36,445
So I think that, I think that's

2540
01:53:36,445 --> 01:53:39,005
what you're feeling here is all, is all is I'm saying I

2541
01:53:40,585 --> 01:53:42,645
No, it wasn't and it wasn't a knock on on

2542
01:53:42,645 --> 01:53:43,725
that at all. It's just, I

2543
01:53:44,625 --> 01:53:45,645
No, 'cause I, I understand

2544
01:53:45,645 --> 01:53:47,205
what you're feeling when you're reading it.

2545
01:53:47,425 --> 01:53:49,765
It is just it when you say it's not, you know,

2546
01:53:49,765 --> 01:53:51,125
fully baked kind of a thing.

2547
01:53:51,905 --> 01:53:56,125
So maybe we need to provide her with a little bit of, but

2548
01:53:57,565 --> 01:53:59,005
I don't know AI

2549
01:53:59,305 --> 01:54:00,305
To Mr.

2550
01:54:00,305 --> 01:54:01,565
Alves's question though, how is this gonna

2551
01:54:01,565 --> 01:54:02,805
affect the budget down the road?

2552
01:54:03,635 --> 01:54:04,965
Sure. How to ChatGPT?

2553
01:54:05,105 --> 01:54:07,605
Is this a couple hundred bucks? Is this five grand?

2554
01:54:07,745 --> 01:54:09,405
Is this 25 grand?

2555
01:54:10,245 --> 01:54:12,125
I mean, I don't, that's now

2556
01:54:12,145 --> 01:54:13,245
I'm looking what's budget down the road.

2557
01:54:13,245 --> 01:54:15,565
Because I mean, when we really look at this is to

2558
01:54:15,565 --> 01:54:17,125
where we were four

2559
01:54:17,125 --> 01:54:19,885
or five years ago with a, with a couple

2560
01:54:19,915 --> 01:54:23,245
that was doing it basically for peanuts.

2561
01:54:23,245 --> 01:54:27,205
Volunteer. Yeah. Almost volunteer work to now full salary,

2562
01:54:27,275 --> 01:54:30,285
full benefit, automobile, office and everything.

2563
01:54:30,685 --> 01:54:32,885
I mean, I, I'm, I'm not saying that I,

2564
01:54:33,005 --> 01:54:34,285
I disagree with all of that.

2565
01:54:34,425 --> 01:54:37,605
I'm just saying is that we're going, so what,

2566
01:54:37,605 --> 01:54:39,565
what's the impact gonna be down the road on

2567
01:54:39,565 --> 01:54:40,645
this as a budgetary item?

2568
01:54:41,745 --> 01:54:43,685
So I I I hear you.

2569
01:54:43,905 --> 01:54:45,445
But I think it's a necessary,

2570
01:54:45,875 --> 01:54:47,685
well I think it's a necessary service.

2571
01:54:48,705 --> 01:54:51,325
My my issue with this is I don't understand how

2572
01:54:52,435 --> 01:54:54,765
fining people or citing people

2573
01:54:54,765 --> 01:54:56,725
or even giving 'em a warning is gonna cause them

2574
01:54:56,825 --> 01:54:58,125
to call you more often.

2575
01:55:00,455 --> 01:55:01,915
That's my, that's my friction.

2576
01:55:02,175 --> 01:55:03,715
That's, I think that's my main concern here. Right.

2577
01:55:03,715 --> 01:55:04,875
We can put something on paper. It

2578
01:55:04,875 --> 01:55:09,435
doesn't mean it's gonna happen.

2579
01:55:15,755 --> 01:55:16,755
I am not opposed to it

2580
01:55:16,755 --> 01:55:19,475
because it's some action that's being taken care

2581
01:55:19,475 --> 01:55:20,955
of towards feral cats.

2582
01:55:25,135 --> 01:55:26,595
I'm just citing my concerns. I

2583
01:55:26,985 --> 01:55:29,115
Yeah, no, I'm, I'm not, I'm not arguing. You all have

2584
01:55:29,115 --> 01:55:30,115
Votes at town meeting too.

2585
01:55:31,335 --> 01:55:31,795
Oh yeah.

2586
01:55:38,455 --> 01:55:39,715
But I feel your friction on it

2587
01:55:43,385 --> 01:55:45,765
Any so No, no.

2588
01:55:45,845 --> 01:55:48,765
I, I, oh

2589
01:55:48,905 --> 01:55:49,905
No.

2590
01:55:49,905 --> 01:55:51,285
I mean, my only concern I mentioned it was thank you Mr.

2591
01:55:51,285 --> 01:55:53,285
Chairman. It was just the, the wording there.

2592
01:55:53,285 --> 01:55:55,125
You know, and like you said, Mr.

2593
01:55:55,405 --> 01:55:57,445
Alves is the enforcement and everything, you know, you're,

2594
01:55:57,445 --> 01:56:00,485
you're volunteer taking care of feeding them,

2595
01:56:00,485 --> 01:56:01,725
controlling the population.

2596
01:56:01,725 --> 01:56:02,885
One of 'em has got a broken leg.

2597
01:56:03,625 --> 01:56:04,885
Are you making them responsible

2598
01:56:04,885 --> 01:56:07,645
now or you were volunteering?

2599
01:56:08,475 --> 01:56:10,125
It's still the town's responsibility. You had

2600
01:56:10,125 --> 01:56:12,325
Good questions that It is just, I don't know,

2601
01:56:12,395 --> 01:56:14,165
something's just not right with that whole section.

2602
01:56:15,985 --> 01:56:18,925
And you're right. Why would somebody call, I know risking

2603
01:56:19,585 --> 01:56:22,365
the cat being hurt and then

2604
01:56:24,315 --> 01:56:25,805
Well we can certainly Taking a, you know,

2605
01:56:25,805 --> 01:56:27,285
a vet bill to the, to, to

2606
01:56:27,425 --> 01:56:28,425
Mr.

2607
01:56:28,425 --> 01:56:31,165
Chairman, we can c we, there's certain concerns.

2608
01:56:31,245 --> 01:56:33,085
I mean, we can try to certainly pull it off

2609
01:56:33,085 --> 01:56:35,725
and put it in next time and get some more in depth.

2610
01:56:36,595 --> 01:56:38,925
Exactly what's gonna happen with this.

2611
01:56:38,925 --> 01:56:41,085
Because it seems like in October, you know,

2612
01:56:42,785 --> 01:56:44,685
you're not comfortable whether you're not comfortable with

2613
01:56:44,685 --> 01:56:45,685
It.

2614
01:56:45,685 --> 01:56:46,845
And I, I mean we can vote on it. That's fine.

2615
01:56:47,085 --> 01:56:51,365
I, I guess when did this come to light

2616
01:56:52,865 --> 01:56:53,865
It?

2617
01:56:53,865 --> 01:56:55,245
She just recently, I mean she literally,

2618
01:56:55,305 --> 01:56:57,365
she came in into our office

2619
01:56:59,665 --> 01:57:02,725
and the, she came to see me about her budget

2620
01:57:02,955 --> 01:57:05,685
because her budget is, according to her,

2621
01:57:05,685 --> 01:57:08,565
is gonna be overspent because of things like this.

2622
01:57:08,905 --> 01:57:11,405
You know, so you have people who are feeding feral cats

2623
01:57:12,225 --> 01:57:15,365
and they either they die or they, they need a vet bill

2624
01:57:15,385 --> 01:57:17,485
and they call her and say, the cat's sick,

2625
01:57:17,985 --> 01:57:19,285
can you come and take care of it?

2626
01:57:21,025 --> 01:57:22,765
And so she takes it to TJO

2627
01:57:22,765 --> 01:57:24,205
or whatever and, and, and gets it.

2628
01:57:24,205 --> 01:57:26,765
And then, and then we, I mean we, she,

2629
01:57:26,825 --> 01:57:28,125
but we have to pay for that.

2630
01:57:28,125 --> 01:57:29,125
Right.

2631
01:57:30,845 --> 01:57:33,645
I don't, So it was only, I don't even know,

2632
01:57:33,765 --> 01:57:35,685
a couple months ago, maybe, maybe less.

2633
01:57:36,945 --> 01:57:40,085
And I don't think the volunteers caring for cats is

2634
01:57:40,085 --> 01:57:41,085
what she was talking about.

2635
01:57:41,805 --> 01:57:43,165
I think she was talking about people

2636
01:57:43,165 --> 01:57:45,965
that are just feeding cats out in the community

2637
01:57:46,585 --> 01:57:48,765
and then calling, I don't think she was saying

2638
01:57:48,765 --> 01:57:51,645
that the volunteers that have been helping to take care

2639
01:57:51,645 --> 01:57:53,485
of cats and do things are the ones

2640
01:57:53,485 --> 01:57:55,645
that are calling her to say this was

2641
01:57:55,645 --> 01:57:57,045
Not, that was her intent. Yeah.

2642
01:57:57,675 --> 01:57:59,365
Yeah. And Mr. Chairman, I understand

2643
01:57:59,365 --> 01:58:00,765
that and I appreciate that.

2644
01:58:00,785 --> 01:58:03,885
But again, there's no distinction. That's all. Yeah.

2645
01:58:03,885 --> 01:58:05,165
Or differentiation or,

2646
01:58:06,745 --> 01:58:08,085
And, and I besides That Right,

2647
01:58:08,285 --> 01:58:09,605
I see that point as you're in, in

2648
01:58:09,605 --> 01:58:12,485
so many ways you're caring for the cat, right.

2649
01:58:12,585 --> 01:58:15,405
As a resident. Oh, it dies or it's hurt.

2650
01:58:16,105 --> 01:58:18,005
I'm wash my hands of it

2651
01:58:18,065 --> 01:58:18,565
Now. Right.

2652
01:58:19,465 --> 01:58:20,645
And now it, now it's on

2653
01:58:20,645 --> 01:58:21,965
Us because I don't want the vet bill.

2654
01:58:22,455 --> 01:58:24,605
Right. Okay, fine.

2655
01:58:25,195 --> 01:58:26,565
Yeah. There could actually be more,

2656
01:58:27,035 --> 01:58:30,885
more feral cats out there if nobody's gonna do anything

2657
01:58:30,905 --> 01:58:31,925
or help out the cats.

2658
01:58:32,635 --> 01:58:35,285
Yeah. That's, But there has to be a benefit for people

2659
01:58:35,305 --> 01:58:36,845
to call and say, Hey, I got a family

2660
01:58:36,865 --> 01:58:38,845
of feral cats in my yard, not a citation.

2661
01:58:40,305 --> 01:58:42,565
You know what I mean? Like

2662
01:58:42,785 --> 01:58:43,845
you should get a reward. Yeah.

2663
01:58:43,845 --> 01:58:45,725
There's a lot of, there's a lot of questions though.

2664
01:58:47,715 --> 01:58:49,565
Like I said, it was just, I think we should pull

2665
01:58:49,565 --> 01:58:50,645
that one quite on saying

2666
01:58:50,645 --> 01:58:51,925
It just needs to be rewarded

2667
01:58:52,025 --> 01:58:53,525
or Well, so that's the thing, right?

2668
01:58:53,525 --> 01:58:55,325
Like these articles say submitted

2669
01:58:55,325 --> 01:58:57,485
by the select board, right, right. We

2670
01:58:57,485 --> 01:58:58,485
Don't have to submit 'em.

2671
01:58:58,485 --> 01:58:59,765
You're put Right. But that's what I'm saying.

2672
01:58:59,765 --> 01:59:01,205
You're putting your name behind it if,

2673
01:59:01,205 --> 01:59:02,245
if you have that many questions.

2674
01:59:06,905 --> 01:59:09,045
And I think these questions are passive compared to

2675
01:59:09,045 --> 01:59:10,245
what town meeting's gonna ask.

2676
01:59:10,915 --> 01:59:13,765
Yeah. Yeah. And why isn't it, why isn't it submitted

2677
01:59:13,765 --> 01:59:15,525
by the, by her.

2678
01:59:16,025 --> 01:59:17,025
By the

2679
01:59:18,345 --> 01:59:21,445
She, she's technically under the select board's umbrella.

2680
01:59:22,065 --> 01:59:25,925
She reports to, to the, oh, okay. Police chief. Alright,

2681
01:59:32,715 --> 01:59:34,445
I'll, I don't want to do this,

2682
01:59:34,445 --> 01:59:36,245
but I'm going, I'm gonna say it.

2683
01:59:38,775 --> 01:59:40,085
Let's, let's pull it.

2684
01:59:40,865 --> 01:59:43,525
And I'll work with her to try and come up with

2685
01:59:43,715 --> 01:59:45,565
Something, some Decent policy.

2686
01:59:45,595 --> 01:59:47,765
I'll, there we go. I'll work with her on some,

2687
01:59:47,795 --> 01:59:49,005
some policy stuff.

2688
01:59:49,035 --> 01:59:50,805
Beautiful. You know, when she wants to do stuff,

2689
01:59:50,805 --> 01:59:51,845
we'll work together on it.

2690
01:59:52,665 --> 01:59:53,885
Do we need to vote to pull it or no.

2691
01:59:53,885 --> 01:59:56,885
An ai No, we just, we don't need a vote,

2692
01:59:56,905 --> 01:59:58,165
we just need to pull it, I guess.

2693
01:59:59,315 --> 02:00:02,525
Alright. Providing,

2694
02:00:02,525 --> 02:00:04,685
she accepts my help if she doesn't accept my help.

2695
02:00:04,685 --> 02:00:06,005
That's, that's on her after that.

2696
02:00:10,145 --> 02:00:11,445
The second one's the stretch code.

2697
02:00:18,715 --> 02:00:20,965
I've been toggling kind of back and forth on it,

2698
02:00:21,145 --> 02:00:24,605
but I can't see

2699
02:00:24,605 --> 02:00:26,605
where the ends justify the means on,

2700
02:00:26,605 --> 02:00:30,205
on the stretch code. So I,

2701
02:00:30,245 --> 02:00:32,725
I, you know, you personally, I wouldn't support the

2702
02:00:32,725 --> 02:00:33,725
Stretch code Yeah, Mr.

2703
02:00:34,325 --> 02:00:35,965
Chairman, you know, where I am.

2704
02:00:36,125 --> 02:00:37,285
I wouldn't put it forth in,

2705
02:00:37,305 --> 02:00:40,365
and the reason I wouldn't put it through and,

2706
02:00:40,505 --> 02:00:44,165
and I'm is simply because the, our, our,

2707
02:00:44,785 --> 02:00:46,085
or most residents,

2708
02:00:46,085 --> 02:00:47,285
most people just don't have enough

2709
02:00:47,285 --> 02:00:48,805
information on that, on it.

2710
02:00:49,745 --> 02:00:53,285
The only thing they're gonna have is that, that dangling of,

2711
02:00:53,345 --> 02:00:56,685
of funds, but they really don't have who, what or where.

2712
02:00:56,945 --> 02:00:59,525
The other thing that I didn't mention as well is, you know,

2713
02:00:59,525 --> 02:01:01,285
we had three individuals sit here,

2714
02:01:02,155 --> 02:01:03,245
where's the funds come from?

2715
02:01:04,215 --> 02:01:06,885
Who's paying for all those funds? You know what I mean?

2716
02:01:07,395 --> 02:01:09,765
It's like, it couldn't have been too cheap

2717
02:01:09,765 --> 02:01:12,365
to have three people come in here and speak on this.

2718
02:01:12,905 --> 02:01:15,885
And, and it just seems to me another funneling

2719
02:01:15,885 --> 02:01:16,925
of money, money, money.

2720
02:01:17,525 --> 02:01:20,805
I don't know. I just, I have my reservation.

2721
02:01:20,825 --> 02:01:24,325
So I, I mean, whether you decide you wanna put it through

2722
02:01:24,325 --> 02:01:26,285
or not, I will speak against it at the,

2723
02:01:26,305 --> 02:01:27,805
at, at the town meeting.

2724
02:01:29,725 --> 02:01:31,365
I wouldn't expect anything less. Manny,

2725
02:01:35,665 --> 02:01:38,125
I'm, I'm strongly, strongly opposed to it.

2726
02:01:38,745 --> 02:01:40,445
But, and,

2727
02:01:40,545 --> 02:01:45,165
and I also wanna say that I didn't do much research,

2728
02:01:45,185 --> 02:01:47,405
but I did research some in, in the map

2729
02:01:47,425 --> 02:01:49,725
and that they got so many communities on there,

2730
02:01:49,725 --> 02:01:51,485
and I Hampden's not on it.

2731
02:01:51,665 --> 02:01:54,605
Wilbraham, I don't think has, they're looking at it now. No.

2732
02:01:54,605 --> 02:01:55,725
Wilbraham's in, do they

2733
02:01:55,745 --> 02:01:57,885
Do they just, there's only must have been just recently,

2734
02:01:57,885 --> 02:01:59,165
There's only four towns

2735
02:01:59,165 --> 02:02:01,325
that are not on it in three counties.

2736
02:02:01,665 --> 02:02:04,525
Granby, Granby, no. Granby's in it.

2737
02:02:04,985 --> 02:02:06,245
And it's not even on the map.

2738
02:02:06,385 --> 02:02:07,645
But anyways, it doesn't matter. It

2739
02:02:07,645 --> 02:02:08,765
is, I don't care, care about the

2740
02:02:08,765 --> 02:02:09,765
Communities.

2741
02:02:09,765 --> 02:02:11,285
Hampden, Montague and Russell, those

2742
02:02:11,285 --> 02:02:12,285
Are... Hampden is not in it.

2743
02:02:12,445 --> 02:02:14,325
Hampdens not in it. Those are the four that are not in it.

2744
02:02:15,225 --> 02:02:17,365
Hampden, Russell, and Montague Okay.

2745
02:02:17,385 --> 02:02:19,005
Are the only ones that didn't do it.

2746
02:02:19,305 --> 02:02:21,605
So what we're basically saying is,

2747
02:02:21,625 --> 02:02:25,245
is we're smarter superior than all those

2748
02:02:25,755 --> 02:02:27,725
than 300 other cities and towns.

2749
02:02:27,825 --> 02:02:29,565
Yep. But you know, you guys do

2750
02:02:29,565 --> 02:02:31,045
what you wanna do. I'm all for it.

2751
02:02:31,875 --> 02:02:34,565
He's gonna be gone. I think, I think part of that though,

2752
02:02:34,785 --> 02:02:39,685
is if you miss it when it's hot, you're late.

2753
02:02:40,855 --> 02:02:43,885
We're, this is Ludlow Anthony. We're always late.

2754
02:02:45,025 --> 02:02:46,485
But I don't think that's an argument

2755
02:02:46,905 --> 02:02:48,365
to say we should do it now.

2756
02:02:49,535 --> 02:02:51,645
Right. Because the state had their shiny ball,

2757
02:02:52,195 --> 02:02:53,205
Sins of the fathers.

2758
02:02:53,515 --> 02:02:55,605
They sent the money to the shiny, you know,

2759
02:02:55,605 --> 02:02:57,965
they chased it, then they found the new shiny ball

2760
02:02:57,965 --> 02:02:59,525
and they're not putting money here anymore.

2761
02:03:00,595 --> 02:03:02,645
Well, it's because they're just pushing the agenda now.

2762
02:03:02,645 --> 02:03:06,045
So we're gonna, we're gonna ac accept the ramifications

2763
02:03:06,045 --> 02:03:08,605
of it regardless, and not have the opportunity in.

2764
02:03:08,995 --> 02:03:11,605
They, They did the same thing with CPA though.

2765
02:03:11,915 --> 02:03:13,605
They, they put CPA out there

2766
02:03:13,605 --> 02:03:16,285
and says, oh, we're gonna match funds in

2767
02:03:16,285 --> 02:03:17,485
the first year, first two years.

2768
02:03:17,485 --> 02:03:19,645
Yeah. They match 100%. Beautiful.

2769
02:03:19,865 --> 02:03:21,645
So they got, they got towns in there all

2770
02:03:21,645 --> 02:03:22,805
of a sudden, all this money there,

2771
02:03:22,805 --> 02:03:23,805
Nothing.

2772
02:03:23,805 --> 02:03:25,365
And in four years having to deal with the code anyway.

2773
02:03:26,385 --> 02:03:27,845
So we might as well get money if

2774
02:03:27,845 --> 02:03:28,925
we're gonna have to deal with it anyway.

2775
02:03:29,105 --> 02:03:30,105
Mm.

2776
02:03:30,725 --> 02:03:32,725
I guess here's my question, Mr. Gennette.

2777
02:03:33,345 --> 02:03:35,365
Is this, sorry, I keep doing this. You're fine.

2778
02:03:35,745 --> 02:03:40,645
Is this proposal the

2779
02:03:40,645 --> 02:03:42,565
way driven by the way you're describing,

2780
02:03:42,955 --> 02:03:44,245
following other communities?

2781
02:03:44,245 --> 02:03:46,645
Or is it a response to what we're hearing in the community

2782
02:03:46,645 --> 02:03:51,125
that we need here by people in town?

2783
02:03:54,385 --> 02:03:59,005
That's a good question. This is more of my agenda. Okay.

2784
02:03:59,035 --> 02:04:00,125
This is not something

2785
02:04:00,125 --> 02:04:02,485
that community residents have approached me

2786
02:04:02,485 --> 02:04:03,485
and said that they want it.

2787
02:04:03,715 --> 02:04:07,325
Okay. I just don't know that they, they know about it, but,

2788
02:04:08,265 --> 02:04:10,445
but they have not, I have not been reached out to it.

2789
02:04:10,445 --> 02:04:12,445
This is an initiative that I have trying to

2790
02:04:13,595 --> 02:04:15,965
further energy efficiency in Ludlow.

2791
02:04:16,635 --> 02:04:19,645
It's part of the reason that I did the Ludlow power choice.

2792
02:04:20,075 --> 02:04:21,325
It's part of the reason I'm chasing

2793
02:04:21,415 --> 02:04:23,605
green, green communities.

2794
02:04:23,735 --> 02:04:26,845
Power choice is very good. And there's other things that,

2795
02:04:26,875 --> 02:04:28,885
that I'm hoping to do down the line as well,

2796
02:04:29,155 --> 02:04:31,005
that grant money would certainly help.

2797
02:04:31,665 --> 02:04:34,685
You know, I mentioned earlier an MLP with fiber in town.

2798
02:04:34,685 --> 02:04:36,725
That's something that, that I'm trying to work towards.

2799
02:04:37,265 --> 02:04:39,405
So there's, there's, there's other things on the table.

2800
02:04:39,865 --> 02:04:42,205
You know. Okay. This is, this is just a step in.

2801
02:04:42,205 --> 02:04:43,445
It's just want some background there. Yeah.

2802
02:04:43,635 --> 02:04:46,485
It's not, it's not, it's not something

2803
02:04:46,485 --> 02:04:48,805
that's gonna stop me from doing those other things either.

2804
02:04:48,935 --> 02:04:50,605
Right. I don't want you to think that I have

2805
02:04:50,605 --> 02:04:52,485
to have this in order to do those other things.

2806
02:04:52,605 --> 02:04:53,605
I don't. Okay.

2807
02:04:54,745 --> 02:04:56,605
No, I appreciate that answer. That's, that's good

2808
02:04:56,605 --> 02:04:57,605
background on that.

2809
02:04:59,265 --> 02:05:01,045
The other power choice was a good program, Mr. Chairman.

2810
02:05:01,385 --> 02:05:04,045
The other thing is, and from what I'm seeing out there

2811
02:05:04,045 --> 02:05:08,045
and reading and, and, and Green is starting to back away,

2812
02:05:09,195 --> 02:05:10,885
whether it's cars or,

2813
02:05:10,945 --> 02:05:14,205
or certain things, it seems to be kind of dying out.

2814
02:05:15,465 --> 02:05:16,605
It is. It, it

2815
02:05:16,605 --> 02:05:18,685
Really, but I, I think it's backstepping right now,

2816
02:05:18,705 --> 02:05:20,205
but I think that, you know, it's only

2817
02:05:20,205 --> 02:05:22,965
because of the, the current climate and what's going on.

2818
02:05:23,205 --> 02:05:24,445
I think it's all coming back. Yeah.

2819
02:05:24,445 --> 02:05:25,605
Maybe. But, you know, but like,

2820
02:05:25,645 --> 02:05:27,165
I mean, even, I don't think it's going away.

2821
02:05:27,205 --> 02:05:28,885
I don't think we're all going back to maybe even,

2822
02:05:28,915 --> 02:05:30,485
Even Ford 60 hot Rods.

2823
02:05:30,555 --> 02:05:33,405
Even Ford and a lot of the manufacturers for cars, they're,

2824
02:05:33,405 --> 02:05:35,765
they're backing, they're backing away from the EV cars.

2825
02:05:37,365 --> 02:05:38,785
But anyways, I, I don't

2826
02:05:42,835 --> 02:05:43,835
Okay.

2827
02:05:44,425 --> 02:05:46,925
Can put an EV car on an east west rail in the state.

2828
02:05:48,975 --> 02:05:53,885
Sorry, Since 2013.

2829
02:05:58,105 --> 02:05:59,965
So look, I want this in on the article.

2830
02:06:00,625 --> 02:06:01,725
You guys wanna take it off?

2831
02:06:01,755 --> 02:06:03,245
I'll, I'll obviously vote against it,

2832
02:06:03,245 --> 02:06:04,485
but it's up to you what you wanna do.

2833
02:06:09,285 --> 02:06:11,565
I just don't, I just don't think the public has an,

2834
02:06:11,625 --> 02:06:12,965
has enough knowledge of what,

2835
02:06:12,995 --> 02:06:14,725
what really, what you're really gonna get.

2836
02:06:14,925 --> 02:06:17,205
I just don't think I, well, I think I would take it on.

2837
02:06:17,385 --> 02:06:18,885
You're take it on next

2838
02:06:24,945 --> 02:06:25,945
So It's easy.

2839
02:06:25,945 --> 02:06:27,605
So again,

2840
02:06:28,945 --> 02:06:31,405
90 people that'll be whittled down to about 70.

2841
02:06:31,725 --> 02:06:33,085
'cause we'll barely have a quorum.

2842
02:06:33,785 --> 02:06:35,445
But in the same sense, this is the job

2843
02:06:35,445 --> 02:06:37,125
of town meeting, right?

2844
02:06:37,325 --> 02:06:39,245
I mean, they're supposed to research this stuff.

2845
02:06:39,245 --> 02:06:41,685
They're supposed to know it. And That's correct.

2846
02:06:42,505 --> 02:06:46,285
That's, yeah. I keep going back to it's our form government.

2847
02:06:46,945 --> 02:06:50,165
And in the same sense, I, you know,

2848
02:06:51,305 --> 02:06:52,885
my concern is more of like

2849
02:06:52,935 --> 02:06:54,645
where it's gonna cost us in 20 years.

2850
02:06:54,805 --> 02:06:57,645
I just think that, it just seemed too many times now

2851
02:06:57,645 --> 02:06:59,165
where grant funding just dries up.

2852
02:07:00,025 --> 02:07:03,245
But in the same sense I'm looking at it is, I know that

2853
02:07:03,825 --> 02:07:06,725
the other part of it is, is that, sure, it's cost a lot now,

2854
02:07:06,725 --> 02:07:09,005
but the homeowner 20 years down the road is when they're

2855
02:07:09,005 --> 02:07:11,845
going to start to realize more of the savings of it.

2856
02:07:12,505 --> 02:07:14,125
So, and my statement once

2857
02:07:14,125 --> 02:07:15,365
before was, is that when anybody,

2858
02:07:15,365 --> 02:07:16,525
when anybody's buying a house

2859
02:07:16,585 --> 02:07:19,805
and they're 30, 31, they're not thinking about 20 years.

2860
02:07:19,805 --> 02:07:21,005
They're thinking about their mortgage payment

2861
02:07:21,705 --> 02:07:26,005
and what they're, and taxes and getting PMI off.

2862
02:07:26,345 --> 02:07:29,045
And maybe they think about their water bill

2863
02:07:29,045 --> 02:07:31,275
and their cable bill, you know, but

2864
02:07:31,925 --> 02:07:34,395
Water bill is supposedly gonna be the highest

2865
02:07:34,685 --> 02:07:35,965
Water Yep. Utility

2866
02:07:36,355 --> 02:07:37,565
That we're gonna be paying for

2867
02:07:37,995 --> 02:07:38,995
Water's about to go.

2868
02:07:39,205 --> 02:07:40,605
I heard that a long time ago. Yep.

2869
02:07:41,265 --> 02:07:43,325
Mr. Chairman, I mean, you, you

2870
02:07:43,475 --> 02:07:45,445
Sanches To your everyone's point.

2871
02:07:45,605 --> 02:07:48,685
I, you know, I I'd say let the precinct members decide.

2872
02:07:48,805 --> 02:07:51,085
I mean, I'd leave it in, I would be my recommendation.

2873
02:07:51,125 --> 02:07:53,325
I mean, you got 300 communities that've signed on board.

2874
02:07:54,005 --> 02:07:56,725
I don't think builders are going to lower their price

2875
02:07:56,725 --> 02:07:58,245
because Lulo doesn't have a stretch code.

2876
02:07:58,645 --> 02:08:00,805
I think that the cost is gonna be the same.

2877
02:08:01,045 --> 02:08:02,725
'cause whether they build in Holyoke

2878
02:08:02,725 --> 02:08:04,285
or build in Ludlow, that's the same cost.

2879
02:08:05,085 --> 02:08:07,285
I think people are building energy efficient homes anyway.

2880
02:08:07,405 --> 02:08:08,685
I mean, Mr. Silva was saying

2881
02:08:08,685 --> 02:08:10,165
that he built an energy efficient home.

2882
02:08:11,225 --> 02:08:12,845
But I I also hear that side too.

2883
02:08:12,845 --> 02:08:13,845
You don't want the government telling you

2884
02:08:13,955 --> 02:08:14,765
what to build either.

2885
02:08:15,405 --> 02:08:17,205
But we're also leaving grant money on the table.

2886
02:08:18,185 --> 02:08:20,005
You're talking a moderate increase.

2887
02:08:20,075 --> 02:08:21,525
From what I've re researched

2888
02:08:21,525 --> 02:08:23,525
and what BJ's presented in her presentations

2889
02:08:23,525 --> 02:08:24,645
and everything I researched, it's

2890
02:08:24,645 --> 02:08:25,765
a moderate increase in code.

2891
02:08:26,645 --> 02:08:30,125
You're talking one to 2% increase in cost versus a 20

2892
02:08:30,145 --> 02:08:32,125
to 40% energy savings in the long run.

2893
02:08:32,825 --> 02:08:34,845
So, I mean, we're all looking

2894
02:08:34,845 --> 02:08:36,165
for energy efficient appliances.

2895
02:08:36,165 --> 02:08:37,805
We're looking for energy efficient, everything.

2896
02:08:38,385 --> 02:08:40,925
So I, I agree with everyone.

2897
02:08:40,965 --> 02:08:42,965
I think it, it's an opportunity for the precinct members

2898
02:08:42,965 --> 02:08:44,725
to review it, and it's up to them to decide.

2899
02:08:47,105 --> 02:08:50,165
But it gives an opportunity to be energy efficient.

2900
02:08:50,165 --> 02:08:52,805
I mean, it's affecting homes 3000 square feet or, or

2901
02:08:52,865 --> 02:08:55,485
or bigger, you know, affordable housing.

2902
02:08:55,665 --> 02:08:58,045
You're, you're building 1000 to 2000 square foot homes,

2903
02:08:58,105 --> 02:08:59,285
not 3000 square foot homes.

2904
02:09:01,515 --> 02:09:03,445
Yeah. And that stretch code, the small

2905
02:09:04,195 --> 02:09:06,205
residential is 2200 square feet

2906
02:09:07,985 --> 02:09:09,725
at 2200 square foot home in this,

2907
02:09:09,825 --> 02:09:12,605
in this town's about $500,000. Five 50,

2908
02:09:13,215 --> 02:09:14,215
Right?

2909
02:09:14,215 --> 02:09:15,045
Yeah. Well, no moderate in

2910
02:09:15,045 --> 02:09:17,765
or low income is building a $500,000 home.

2911
02:09:20,265 --> 02:09:22,725
No, I mean, again, it's to the point of saying, like,

2912
02:09:22,725 --> 02:09:24,645
there's saying there's those modular small homes.

2913
02:09:25,105 --> 02:09:29,005
If you had an area that had tru the Truman's, you know,

2914
02:09:30,025 --> 02:09:32,125
little houses around a pond or something,

2915
02:09:32,125 --> 02:09:33,725
and you're around a cul-de-sac or whatever.

2916
02:09:34,445 --> 02:09:36,645
I mean, I don't, but is a builder gonna build that?

2917
02:09:36,665 --> 02:09:38,325
Is it they they'd have to build 50 of them

2918
02:09:38,325 --> 02:09:39,565
to make what they want to make.

2919
02:09:40,525 --> 02:09:41,605
I mean, I, I don't know.

2920
02:09:41,805 --> 02:09:43,485
I mean, honestly, in this town and,

2921
02:09:43,625 --> 02:09:44,885
and getting off the subject a little,

2922
02:09:45,745 --> 02:09:47,445
you're sitting there if you want to generate revenue

2923
02:09:47,835 --> 02:09:49,285
through, you know, taxes

2924
02:09:49,385 --> 02:09:52,165
or anything, it's gonna be more commercial. So

2925
02:09:52,785 --> 02:09:54,645
The clock has The clock chimed.

2926
02:09:55,635 --> 02:09:56,965
Well, we've turned into a pumpkin.

2927
02:09:57,365 --> 02:10:00,525
I think the clock stopped. Wow.

2928
02:10:01,905 --> 02:10:05,525
Unless anyone has a motion to, or not a motion,

2929
02:10:05,665 --> 02:10:07,805
but to remove the article.

2930
02:10:08,665 --> 02:10:11,845
Anyone that wants to, but I,

2931
02:10:12,085 --> 02:10:13,765
I would keep it on. That's just me.

2932
02:10:14,115 --> 02:10:16,285
Okay. Then keep it on. I, I don't think we need a motion.

2933
02:10:16,665 --> 02:10:18,365
No, we don't. I think we just had a straw poll, I think.

2934
02:10:18,785 --> 02:10:23,645
No, I mean, Are people the same?

2935
02:10:24,125 --> 02:10:28,365
I just in a general sense, I'm, I wanna keep it on.

2936
02:10:28,365 --> 02:10:30,325
That's fine. The,

2937
02:10:33,725 --> 02:10:34,725
I don't think we can forget.

2938
02:10:34,725 --> 02:10:37,485
Right? Yeah.

2939
02:10:37,515 --> 02:10:40,605
Town meeting decides, but we still propose these things.

2940
02:10:40,605 --> 02:10:43,485
Right. So it should be under the guise that we support,

2941
02:10:44,225 --> 02:10:46,285
or at least the majority of the board supports.

2942
02:10:46,615 --> 02:10:48,605
Right. What we're presenting used

2943
02:10:48,605 --> 02:10:50,285
To be that way, you know, then suddenly

2944
02:10:50,635 --> 02:10:51,805
kind of got away from that.

2945
02:10:51,805 --> 02:10:56,085
It used to be the, the board voted so

2946
02:10:56,085 --> 02:10:57,125
and so through to, to,

2947
02:10:59,315 --> 02:11:00,315
Yeah.

2948
02:11:00,315 --> 02:11:00,565
That's, that's what I thought happened

2949
02:11:00,565 --> 02:11:01,325
with these. It used to.

2950
02:11:01,325 --> 02:11:03,365
That's fine. If I recall. It used to be that way. But

2951
02:11:04,985 --> 02:11:05,985
See what happens.

2952
02:11:10,865 --> 02:11:13,245
Is that, oh, is that it? That's it.

2953
02:11:15,705 --> 02:11:17,165
You guys wanna stay for another hour? So

2954
02:11:18,925 --> 02:11:20,805
I promised my wife I'd keep you guys here till midnight.

2955
02:11:21,295 --> 02:11:23,645
Sweet 30. I, I, I drive, drive down to work then

2956
02:11:23,645 --> 02:11:24,645
Have a lot of closing comments.

2957
02:11:24,845 --> 02:11:27,885
I have left at midnight. A lot of closing that way.

2958
02:11:27,885 --> 02:11:29,685
You forgot about my town administrator's report.

2959
02:11:31,495 --> 02:11:33,765
There is nothing on here. That's right. Nothing.

2960
02:11:33,835 --> 02:11:35,845
It's a long one. There's no, there's no report.

2961
02:11:37,015 --> 02:11:40,365
Sweet. Sweet

2962
02:11:40,365 --> 02:11:41,365
Is Right.

2963
02:11:41,365 --> 02:11:44,445
Town administrator's report, board updates.

2964
02:11:45,825 --> 02:11:47,925
One. Do we Talking about, do we need

2965
02:11:47,925 --> 02:11:48,965
to approve the warrant

2966
02:11:50,195 --> 02:11:51,195
Next week?

2967
02:11:51,625 --> 02:11:54,765
So we removed what one? Yep. And we'll approve. Okay.

2968
02:11:54,765 --> 02:11:56,485
Yeah. So that should be open and shut. And

2969
02:11:56,485 --> 02:11:58,405
I, I have comments from town council too that

2970
02:11:58,405 --> 02:11:59,405
I'll incorporate.

2971
02:11:59,405 --> 02:12:00,765
Okay. The final change. Okay. Yeah.

2972
02:12:04,505 --> 02:12:08,085
Mr. Chairman, are, are you board updates? Yep. Mr.

2973
02:12:08,085 --> 02:12:09,965
Gennette. So, I just wanted

2974
02:12:09,965 --> 02:12:11,765
to thank Jeff Stratton for coming in earlier.

2975
02:12:12,385 --> 02:12:13,765
We really did have a really good

2976
02:12:13,765 --> 02:12:15,165
superintendent search committee.

2977
02:12:15,185 --> 02:12:17,645
It was, they did a really good job. They really, really did.

2978
02:12:18,065 --> 02:12:19,765
And congratulations to Mrs.

2979
02:12:19,765 --> 02:12:21,805
Cannoyer for getting the position.

2980
02:12:21,925 --> 02:12:25,645
I thought she was arguably the strongest candidate

2981
02:12:25,665 --> 02:12:28,365
and to know that they have already got a contract with her

2982
02:12:28,785 --> 02:12:31,445
and they're almost ready to finalize That is, is good stuff.

2983
02:12:36,825 --> 02:12:39,605
Thanks for the work. Anyone on board?

2984
02:12:40,485 --> 02:12:42,845
I do if, do you want me to do it? Or you can do it.

2985
02:12:44,745 --> 02:12:46,605
Mobile Home Rent Control board met

2986
02:12:47,225 --> 02:12:51,405
and we made a decision on the rent

2987
02:12:52,925 --> 02:12:54,525
increase, stay the same, decrease.

2988
02:12:56,745 --> 02:12:59,485
And originally, I think it was 400, it was from 195

2989
02:12:59,665 --> 02:13:01,085
to basically 495.

2990
02:13:01,315 --> 02:13:05,165
496 was the increase that the owner wanted.

2991
02:13:05,225 --> 02:13:08,485
The, and the mobile home rent control board. Thanks.

2992
02:13:12,235 --> 02:13:16,125
Decided based on possible undue burden

2993
02:13:16,225 --> 02:13:18,485
to the residences that we reduced it to.

2994
02:13:18,485 --> 02:13:22,485
390 on. Thank you.

2995
02:13:23,235 --> 02:13:25,085
Sure. You don't wanna bring over anymore? Oh,

2996
02:13:25,145 --> 02:13:26,145
I'm going.

2997
02:13:26,145 --> 02:13:26,765
Okay. Thanks.

2998
02:13:28,385 --> 02:13:30,485
But that was Mobile Home Rent Control board.

2999
02:13:30,865 --> 02:13:32,405
I'm expecting some openings on

3000
02:13:32,405 --> 02:13:34,045
that board pretty soon as well. Well, you

3001
02:13:34,045 --> 02:13:35,045
Had resignation.

3002
02:13:35,425 --> 02:13:37,805
We got one. I'll take care of it. Just

3003
02:13:37,805 --> 02:13:38,805
Pop it over there.

3004
02:13:41,475 --> 02:13:42,685
Does anyone else have anything

3005
02:13:43,905 --> 02:13:44,905
Too late?

3006
02:13:44,905 --> 02:13:45,545
Too Late? Okay. Yeah.

3007
02:13:46,825 --> 02:13:48,805
Mr. Chairman, well, Do you want to, you

3008
02:13:48,805 --> 02:13:49,805
Want me to do these?

3009
02:13:49,905 --> 02:13:51,965
Oh, sure. Go ahead. I got one thing

3010
02:13:51,965 --> 02:13:53,045
that I want to do in there.

3011
02:13:53,065 --> 02:13:55,605
So this is just closing comments

3012
02:13:57,065 --> 02:13:58,065
And updates.

3013
02:13:58,065 --> 02:14:00,565
All. And updates. All right. Cool. Town events.

3014
02:14:01,745 --> 02:14:03,925
Friday Rotary, Heart

3015
02:14:03,925 --> 02:14:04,925
of the Community Celebration.

3016
02:14:05,895 --> 02:14:09,325
7:00 PM Gremio Lusitano Club Entertainment.

3017
02:14:11,035 --> 02:14:13,045
I've been there the past few years. A nice event,

3018
02:14:18,305 --> 02:14:18,885
Mr. Chairman.

3019
02:14:19,305 --> 02:14:21,205
Oh. Oh, he's not done. Oh,

3020
02:14:21,205 --> 02:14:21,565
He's not done.

3021
02:14:21,605 --> 02:14:22,525
I thought you were done. He's done. I thought he

3022
02:14:22,525 --> 02:14:23,525
Said he was done.

3023
02:14:23,525 --> 02:14:24,725
I'm, I'm slow at this time of night, but I'm not done.

3024
02:14:24,755 --> 02:14:27,485
Yeah, no. Okay. Town of Ludlow Memorial Day Parade.

3025
02:14:29,025 --> 02:14:31,885
If you or an organization would like to join the parade,

3026
02:14:32,985 --> 02:14:35,405
can email

3027
02:14:35,585 --> 02:14:40,525
Ludlowma250@gmail.com and register by May 1st.

3028
02:14:40,665 --> 02:14:43,725
The parade is on May 25th at 10:00 AM

3029
02:14:46,115 --> 02:14:48,285
town of Ludlow Town wide Community Cleanup Day.

3030
02:14:48,345 --> 02:14:50,925
May 2nd, 9:00 AM the Veterans Memorial.

3031
02:14:52,715 --> 02:14:54,685
Back Up. You can find more information

3032
02:14:55,345 --> 02:14:59,405
on the town's website or Ludlow.veterans.us.

3033
02:15:02,815 --> 02:15:06,285
Other than that, a few weeks ago I was at the senior center

3034
02:15:06,425 --> 02:15:08,605
for a 100th birthday.

3035
02:15:08,825 --> 02:15:12,085
Oh yeah. And I presented a citation on behalf of the board

3036
02:15:12,105 --> 02:15:13,445
to Miss Miriam Stone.

3037
02:15:14,425 --> 02:15:15,965
So happy 100th birthday.

3038
02:15:19,305 --> 02:15:20,845
As I said there, if you think about it,

3039
02:15:22,065 --> 02:15:23,645
the country's turning 250.

3040
02:15:23,795 --> 02:15:26,765
Ludlow turned 250. So she's been alive

3041
02:15:26,785 --> 02:15:28,565
for 40% of the history of this

3042
02:15:28,865 --> 02:15:29,865
Wow Country.

3043
02:15:29,865 --> 02:15:31,445
That's interesting to think about. Hmm.

3044
02:15:33,705 --> 02:15:36,885
And I should have thanked them while they were here.

3045
02:15:37,085 --> 02:15:39,285
I attended the Easter egg hunt at the library with my

3046
02:15:39,365 --> 02:15:41,965
daughter this past Saturday.

3047
02:15:42,915 --> 02:15:46,805
Very nice. And it was, I appreciated the way they did it,

3048
02:15:46,805 --> 02:15:49,365
because it was, you could go in ahead of time,

3049
02:15:49,365 --> 02:15:51,045
you color in your, your, your egg.

3050
02:15:51,595 --> 02:15:52,925
Then they had 'em all planted around

3051
02:15:52,925 --> 02:15:56,325
and it was like, you know, go find this egg.

3052
02:15:56,325 --> 02:16:00,245
Go find that egg. And it helps out the two year olds

3053
02:16:00,245 --> 02:16:01,805
that would probably get pushed aside from

3054
02:16:02,005 --> 02:16:03,005
Hmm, That's cool.

3055
02:16:03,475 --> 02:16:06,765
From all the eggs. So that's it.

3056
02:16:06,765 --> 02:16:08,565
Manny was staring at me that whole run on sentence.

3057
02:16:08,565 --> 02:16:12,005
So I was trying to keep it as long as I could go. I'm done.

3058
02:16:12,825 --> 02:16:14,165
Yay. Yay.

3059
02:16:15,185 --> 02:16:18,925
All I have is again, I'm gonna congratulate Tony over there.

3060
02:16:19,105 --> 02:16:20,725
Oh, thank you. And welcome Tony.

3061
02:16:20,965 --> 02:16:23,245
I gotta tell you, this is probably the longest

3062
02:16:23,245 --> 02:16:24,365
meeting you will have.

3063
02:16:24,515 --> 02:16:27,525
Okay. Thank you. It's, it's nothing like this. Wow.

3064
02:16:28,665 --> 02:16:32,445
You know, know, and we passed, we passed the baton on to Mr.

3065
02:16:32,665 --> 02:16:34,805
Rosenblum, and he would just let people talk and talk.

3066
02:16:34,845 --> 02:16:37,005
I used to just cut him off and say, okay, we're done.

3067
02:16:38,105 --> 02:16:40,005
You know, for his own talking. See what you're doing.

3068
02:16:40,005 --> 02:16:41,565
Yeah. Okay. We would've been here till nine

3069
02:16:41,625 --> 02:16:44,165
if he was the chair person. That,

3070
02:16:44,315 --> 02:16:45,405
That, that Wasn't happening.

3071
02:16:45,425 --> 02:16:49,605
No, that's not true. And we just had a lot on, on the,

3072
02:16:49,705 --> 02:16:52,605
our agenda and things that we really needed

3073
02:16:52,625 --> 02:16:53,765
to get done. So,

3074
02:16:54,175 --> 02:16:56,845
Worth it With that.

3075
02:16:56,845 --> 02:16:58,645
Un, unless Tony would like to say something.

3076
02:16:58,805 --> 02:16:59,845
I mean, that's up.

3077
02:17:00,525 --> 02:17:01,645
Thank you for all the voters who voted,

3078
02:17:02,045 --> 02:17:03,125
appreciate the support,

3079
02:17:03,345 --> 02:17:05,085
and I'm looking forward to working with everyone

3080
02:17:06,065 --> 02:17:07,525
and getting things done.

3081
02:17:07,585 --> 02:17:08,585
So, thank you.

3082
02:17:09,145 --> 02:17:12,805
Mr. Chairman, Did you, did you have something too?

3083
02:17:13,025 --> 02:17:14,125
Of course. Okay. Go ahead.

3084
02:17:14,125 --> 02:17:16,005
When don't I have something to say. I, I do have something.

3085
02:17:16,485 --> 02:17:19,845
I do have something. No, I wanted to say thank you

3086
02:17:19,845 --> 02:17:20,965
to Tony for, for running

3087
02:17:21,025 --> 02:17:23,005
and really do appreciate that he's here.

3088
02:17:23,075 --> 02:17:24,285
He's gonna be great on the board.

3089
02:17:24,405 --> 02:17:26,005
He's gonna be an excellent select person.

3090
02:17:26,425 --> 02:17:27,885
And as far as this really, really,

3091
02:17:27,885 --> 02:17:30,485
really long meeting the next time, please make sure

3092
02:17:30,485 --> 02:17:31,925
that you don't do it on my birthday.

3093
02:17:32,885 --> 02:17:34,645
'cause this was ridiculous. Oh,

3094
02:17:34,705 --> 02:17:36,285
...all days.

3095
02:17:37,025 --> 02:17:38,205
All the days too.

3096
02:17:38,415 --> 02:17:39,685
Happy birthday to have the longest

3097
02:17:39,685 --> 02:17:41,205
meeting I've ever been at.

3098
02:17:42,665 --> 02:17:44,165
No, I, I've left here at midnight.

3099
02:17:44,405 --> 02:17:45,725
I left my family in the kitchen

3100
02:17:45,725 --> 02:17:47,765
with my birthday cake. I'm kidding. I didn't have

3101
02:17:47,765 --> 02:17:48,925
You notify, notify us.

3102
02:17:49,285 --> 02:17:50,805
I would've brought a nice cake for you.

3103
02:17:52,945 --> 02:17:56,325
I'm sure you would've. Yeah. Is

3104
02:17:56,325 --> 02:17:57,325
That it?

3105
02:17:57,325 --> 02:17:58,725
That's it. Oh, by the way, happy birthday. Thank.

3106
02:17:58,725 --> 02:17:59,725
Appreciate it.

3107
02:18:03,525 --> 02:18:04,805
I I, I do have one thing.

3108
02:18:04,845 --> 02:18:06,325
I had someone, did you say,

3109
02:18:06,345 --> 02:18:07,525
you said cleanup date, didn't you?

3110
02:18:07,605 --> 02:18:10,285
I did, yep. Okay. I do have, one thing here is

3111
02:18:10,285 --> 02:18:14,125
that someone reached out to me about this citizen in town,

3112
02:18:16,625 --> 02:18:18,485
Codtober Fest, spring Fling edition.

3113
02:18:18,985 --> 02:18:20,645
So, as many of you people might know,

3114
02:18:20,725 --> 02:18:21,725
I think it was a few years ago,

3115
02:18:21,725 --> 02:18:26,485
there was already a fundraiser for Cali Codding and things,

3116
02:18:28,135 --> 02:18:29,925
she's now awaiting a heart transplant.

3117
02:18:30,145 --> 02:18:33,605
So Sunday, May 3rd, 12 to 6:00 PM at Vanished Valley.

3118
02:18:33,605 --> 02:18:36,485
There'll be raffle items and food and things of that nature.

3119
02:18:36,705 --> 02:18:41,285
So I was asked by a citizen to go ahead

3120
02:18:41,285 --> 02:18:45,565
and say this, Codding's, it's a, you know,

3121
02:18:45,565 --> 02:18:48,685
Amanda's obviously on the school committee, so I wanted

3122
02:18:48,685 --> 02:18:49,725
to put that out there though.

3123
02:18:49,965 --> 02:18:51,365
Everyone's asleep now, so they'll have

3124
02:18:51,365 --> 02:18:53,365
to catch this on the recording, I guess tomorrow.

3125
02:18:54,185 --> 02:18:57,245
And the recording will be late because it's 24 hours.

3126
02:18:57,465 --> 02:19:01,125
So, anyways, also,

3127
02:19:01,485 --> 02:19:02,725
congratulations, Tony.

3128
02:19:03,015 --> 02:19:07,565
Thank you. And thank you for instilling your, well,

3129
02:19:07,565 --> 02:19:09,605
maybe it's not confidence in me, is

3130
02:19:09,605 --> 02:19:10,565
that the fact is it's just

3131
02:19:10,565 --> 02:19:11,685
like, oh, well you're next in line.

3132
02:19:13,385 --> 02:19:15,125
But thank you.

3133
02:19:17,225 --> 02:19:19,445
You know, a few things I, you know, I'd like to get to

3134
02:19:19,445 --> 02:19:21,205
where we get the, the boards

3135
02:19:21,205 --> 02:19:23,405
or like departments in here a little bit more, just

3136
02:19:23,405 --> 02:19:25,565
so it'll help in the budget process, maybe

3137
02:19:25,565 --> 02:19:26,685
to see things a little bit earlier.

3138
02:19:30,145 --> 02:19:32,565
I'm glad I saw that. I didn't know the digital board was on

3139
02:19:32,565 --> 02:19:34,765
there, but I, you know, I've had comments from some people

3140
02:19:34,795 --> 02:19:35,845
just about communication.

3141
02:19:35,965 --> 02:19:38,885
I go and as I had said, you could put it on everything.

3142
02:19:38,885 --> 02:19:40,565
You could put it on. It's just a matter, I mean,

3143
02:19:40,565 --> 02:19:41,685
unless you have to spoonfeed it

3144
02:19:41,825 --> 02:19:43,285
to someone on their living room couch.

3145
02:19:43,525 --> 02:19:48,005
I mean, sometimes you just don't see stuff. Yep. And, yep.

3146
02:19:48,265 --> 02:19:50,245
And as one person said to me,

3147
02:19:52,875 --> 02:19:54,925
it's the third weekend of March every year.

3148
02:19:56,465 --> 02:19:58,725
And to that point, I said to someone,

3149
02:19:59,185 --> 02:20:00,285
we had one contested race,

3150
02:20:00,425 --> 02:20:02,645
and we had, I think I saw one sign for you

3151
02:20:03,755 --> 02:20:04,845
that I might have saw.

3152
02:20:05,025 --> 02:20:08,125
No, it was, what was it? What was it for?

3153
02:20:08,305 --> 02:20:09,885
Oh, it was for Board of Health. Board of Health.

3154
02:20:10,045 --> 02:20:11,685
I saw one sign for each person.

3155
02:20:13,185 --> 02:20:16,205
So the thing that wakes you up to voting is the fact

3156
02:20:16,205 --> 02:20:18,365
that you would normally see, when there's contested races,

3157
02:20:18,465 --> 02:20:19,845
you would see signs all over the place.

3158
02:20:21,575 --> 02:20:24,005
Especially usually select board and school committee.

3159
02:20:24,945 --> 02:20:26,125
We didn't have that this time.

3160
02:20:26,745 --> 02:20:31,285
And again, thank you to anyone who has run for a position.

3161
02:20:31,505 --> 02:20:33,485
Is in a position, has been in a position.

3162
02:20:34,505 --> 02:20:38,685
We just ask that, you know, more people volunteer.

3163
02:20:40,105 --> 02:20:43,405
So, oh, and Mr. Alves has one more thing.

3164
02:20:43,565 --> 02:20:44,565
I have one more thing, and then I'll close

3165
02:20:44,565 --> 02:20:45,525
It.

3166
02:20:45,525 --> 02:20:46,685
It's gonna, it's gonna last for 50 minutes, I promise.

3167
02:20:47,885 --> 02:20:51,165
I just wanna thank Evan for being here,

3168
02:20:51,195 --> 02:20:52,285
dealing with our crap.

3169
02:20:52,345 --> 02:20:54,005
Do you have a mic or can you pan on yourself?

3170
02:20:54,025 --> 02:20:56,005
No, you can't do that. No, I can't. No words.

3171
02:20:56,435 --> 02:20:58,725
He's over there saying, just close the meeting already.

3172
02:20:59,245 --> 02:21:00,525
Thanks. So, yeah, you wanna close the meeting?

3173
02:21:02,405 --> 02:21:06,285
I make a motion that we close at 11:10 PM Thanks, bud.

3174
02:21:06,385 --> 02:21:07,385
Second

3175
02:21:08,045 --> 02:21:09,525
Motion's been made and seconded.

3176
02:21:10,105 --> 02:21:11,525
All in favor? Aye. Aye.

3177
02:21:11,835 --> 02:21:12,285
Good night.