1 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:37,240 We'll call this meeting to order. 2 00:00:40,020 --> 00:00:44,920 All on our attorney for the invocation. Thank you, Mayor. 3 00:00:46,160 --> 00:01:00,120 Pray with me if you like. We do Lord, we give things for this day. Here in the middle of summer, we do ask for your blessings and watch fly with those impacted by the heat and by the recent storm. 4 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:07,800 And we just ask for your insight in Godence as we handle these matters here today ask always your name. I'm here and then I'd 5 00:01:09,850 --> 00:01:10,570 like to ask 6 00:01:10,570 --> 00:01:13,850 Councilman Ryzen if he would lead us in the play to believe this 7 00:01:14,770 --> 00:01:15,330 I 8 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:24,480 pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which is saying 9 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:31,200 One nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all our 10 00:01:37,410 --> 00:01:39,750 first item is retirees recognition 11 00:01:40,750 --> 00:01:45,430 Mr. Keith Jones, is it here in the house? 12 00:01:46,550 --> 00:01:49,410 All right, Curly Locklear, all 13 00:01:52,290 --> 00:01:52,750 right then. 14 00:01:54,170 --> 00:01:57,150 Mr. Jones had 35 years, and Mr. Locklear had 10. 15 00:01:58,430 --> 00:01:59,870 We appreciate their service. 16 00:02:04,490 --> 00:02:08,530 The next item is called to present Mr. John Carroll with pride and 17 00:02:14,870 --> 00:02:15,430 I 18 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:27,240 like asking this Betty Kern, if she would to come up, as I do every month, because I 19 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:28,140 like to do it every month. 20 00:02:28,340 --> 00:02:34,940 We've initiated the Pride and London Community Appearance Award, and I actually received 21 00:02:34,940 --> 00:02:42,380 a nomination last month about Ms. Betty Kern, George, who has been so well-kept and so well-managed 22 00:02:42,380 --> 00:02:42,580 Thank you. 23 00:02:43,100 --> 00:02:49,140 And we are so happy and so proud that we want to present this pride in Lumberton Community 24 00:02:49,140 --> 00:02:55,400 Appearance Award to her on behalf of the City Council and behalf of all of the staff 25 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:56,500 here with the City of Lumberton. 26 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:58,180 We appreciate everything that you do. 27 00:02:58,540 --> 00:03:03,140 You've expressed to me how your husband took so much pride in keeping the yard up and 28 00:03:03,140 --> 00:03:04,160 you have continued that. 29 00:03:04,640 --> 00:03:11,560 And I just want to say thank you from me and from present three because we hope that others 30 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:18,480 We'll step up and take a little bit more initiative to make lunch and even more beautiful, and I want to present you this. 31 00:03:18,740 --> 00:03:19,360 Thank you. 32 00:03:24,540 --> 00:03:25,960 Thank you so much. 33 00:03:28,920 --> 00:03:30,780 Well, she's not here. It's Ms. Payton. 34 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:34,540 And she's not here this morning, so I'll present that to her. 35 00:03:35,860 --> 00:03:36,200 Thank you, Mayor. 36 00:03:44,580 --> 00:03:47,340 Yes sir, we have Mr. Bruce Mullis. 37 00:03:50,300 --> 00:03:53,660 If I could just respectfully remind everybody on the list, we have a three minute. 38 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:57,420 Morning Mayor and Council. 39 00:03:57,740 --> 00:04:02,600 Bruce Mullis, 5,000 white drive in Lumberton, I just wanted to kind of give a brief update on 40 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:08,460 the successful season that Lumberton Youth Baseball Association had this summer in conjunction 41 00:04:08,460 --> 00:04:14,480 with our Recreation Department. We hosted 23 teams this regular season from 42 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:21,260 ages 5 to age 15. We had five all-star teams that participated in postseason 43 00:04:21,260 --> 00:04:28,000 play during our tournament for our eight and nine-year-old kids that played in 44 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:31,180 Elizabeth Town. They won the Sportsmanship Award. 45 00:04:31,740 --> 00:04:39,040 D-Y-B actually is more more proud of a sportsmanship award recipient almost 46 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:43,720 and they are the tournament winner. So we were very proud of our kids and our 47 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:49,180 coaches and fans. Our six-year-old team, our five-and-six-year-old team also won 48 00:04:49,180 --> 00:04:53,420 the sportsmanship award. That was during the tournament that we hosted the 49 00:04:53,420 --> 00:05:05,440 WIBA hosted this year, we hosted a five and six year old state coach pitch state tournament, June 10th through the 13th out at Northeast Park. 50 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:08,020 We were the host of that tournament. 51 00:05:08,280 --> 00:05:23,180 I noticed that Mr. Arnold West was in the audience just wanted to make a comment that we during that tournament we had about 140 plus or minus hotel room nights as a result of hosting this state tournament. 52 00:05:23,180 --> 00:05:52,300 The state director has actually stated that she wants us to be the permanent site for this so we'll have to take that under consideration because you know there is a lot of volunteer hours and involved in that but we were very proud of to be able to host that tournament once again or host that tournament as we've hosted many state tournaments in the past and been extremely successful but but really proud that we had the hotel room nights and visitors coming in to lumber 10 and spending their money here everything went great out of the ball fields 53 00:05:53,820 --> 00:06:00,300 Our 13 and 14 and 15-year-old kids played Dixie Boys, which they play on a regulation-size 54 00:06:00,300 --> 00:06:01,180 field 60-90. 55 00:06:01,380 --> 00:06:06,960 So they participated this year on field number five, and our 14-year-old team went to 56 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:09,300 Town Creek and actually won the state tournament. 57 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:17,160 So they will actually be leaving tomorrow to go to Stirlington, Louisiana to represent North 58 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:20,680 Carolina in the World Series and the DBB World Series. 59 00:06:21,140 --> 00:06:27,220 So, we're extremely proud of those kids and going to represent Lumberton in the state of 60 00:06:27,220 --> 00:06:29,080 North Carolina this week coming up. 61 00:06:29,260 --> 00:06:34,480 So, I just wanted to give you all that update, a recreation department and us, L-Y-B-A continue 62 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:39,040 to have a great working relationship and we have a lot of support from the city and from 63 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:40,900 the community and from many of you. 64 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:41,880 So, we thank you for that. 65 00:06:42,140 --> 00:06:44,700 And like I said, I just wanted to present that good news. 66 00:06:44,860 --> 00:06:49,080 We felt it was really good news to share, so we wanted to do that this morning, so thank 67 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:49,260 you. 68 00:06:49,260 --> 00:06:51,240 Thank you sir. Thank you mayor. 69 00:06:54,710 --> 00:07:05,150 Our next presenter Mr. Wade Green is going to 70 00:07:05,150 --> 00:07:13,930 present our audit to us. Thank you Mr. Mayor Council. This I guess you've got a 71 00:07:13,930 --> 00:07:19,110 copy this is last year's audit. LGC is finally happy that they love to check 72 00:07:19,110 --> 00:07:25,350 get to this but anyway they're happy. I got my love presentation I'll go over this kind 73 00:07:25,350 --> 00:07:32,050 of hit the high spots if you would. With that being said if you just flip over to page 2 in it 74 00:07:38,060 --> 00:07:43,800 your assets and your deferred outflows of resources exceeded your liabilities and deferred 75 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:50,580 inflows of resources over 103 million dollars. Your net position or net income if you will 76 00:07:50,580 --> 00:07:55,680 increase by 8.9 million. That's the full or cruel basis. That's the first two 77 00:07:55,680 --> 00:08:00,080 statements in the financial. That's really not how you keep your books. That's 78 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:05,300 cash basis and that's the rest of them. But any questions on that one, that's 79 00:08:05,300 --> 00:08:12,900 full or cruel. If not the next one, your general fund, your revenues are 30 million 80 00:08:12,900 --> 00:08:25,220 In 1996, your expenses, 34,694 revenues over expenditures, minus 4,597,000 to General 81 00:08:25,220 --> 00:08:27,680 Fund, like a 4.5 million in the whole. 82 00:08:29,620 --> 00:08:32,580 Does you see your revenues and expenses went up for the year? 83 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:40,660 On the next one, fund balance available, cash in the bank after you pay your bills. 84 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:44,900 You're in, you had $7,566,000. 85 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:47,400 You were 8.2 million last year. 86 00:08:47,820 --> 00:08:48,840 It went down some. 87 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:52,360 But if you'll take this 7.5 million divided 88 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:54,180 by the prior charts expenses, 89 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:56,100 you get the next one, the percentage. 90 00:08:56,660 --> 00:08:58,780 This is the one the LGC likes to look at. 91 00:08:59,560 --> 00:09:02,280 You're at 21.81%. 92 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:06,260 LGC would say 75% is excellent shape, 93 00:09:06,260 --> 00:09:10,320 but most towns 20 to 40% tend to be par, 94 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:13,960 so you're just still in good shape in your general fund. 95 00:09:14,540 --> 00:09:16,040 Any question about your general fund? 96 00:09:17,780 --> 00:09:20,560 If not the next one, you're light and power fund. 97 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:29,980 Revenue's $35,751,000, expenses $36,408,000, 98 00:09:30,100 --> 00:09:34,020 net loss $657,000 or $44,000. 99 00:09:36,260 --> 00:09:41,580 As you can see last year you had a lawsuit to me in nine this year 657,000 100 00:09:42,740 --> 00:09:48,320 The next one is probably the negative in this your life your fund balance available. You're at a minus 101 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:50,960 370,000 102 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:51,800 100 103 00:09:53,260 --> 00:09:56,640 370,000 one one seven now within that 104 00:09:57,180 --> 00:10:01,440 This is from a grant that this city paid past paid old expenses 105 00:10:02,140 --> 00:10:05,860 but you've got about four million dollars owed to your year end, you just 106 00:10:05,860 --> 00:10:09,400 haven't gotten it yet. If you had four million, that would be a positive 107 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:13,160 but you haven't gotten it yet. So at June 30th, like I said, it's a negative 108 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:20,340 $370,000. The next one is the percentage, zero percent. It's probably something 109 00:10:20,340 --> 00:10:25,840 else you see may have wrote you up for it, but when the four million comes in, 110 00:10:27,970 --> 00:10:32,730 you 111 00:10:42,430 --> 00:10:52,140 The next water and sewer fund, revenues over 17 million, your expenses 14 and a half 112 00:10:52,140 --> 00:11:02,040 million, revenues over expenditures to 2,512,000, as you can see at 287,000 loss last year, 113 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:05,000 positive two and a half million this year. 114 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:10,720 Fund balance available, $12,578,000. 115 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:12,980 It was delivered 10 million last year, 116 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:15,100 so your fund balance available went up. 117 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:20,380 The percentage, your 86.26 percent, 118 00:11:21,060 --> 00:11:22,520 you were at 68, well like I said, 119 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:23,700 it's 75 percent. 120 00:11:24,020 --> 00:11:26,060 It's the actual numbers, so your good shape, 121 00:11:26,260 --> 00:11:26,880 order and so on. 122 00:11:29,260 --> 00:11:32,120 Your sanitation fund revenue, 123 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:37,460 two million six hundred fifty eight thousand. Spence is over two million one 124 00:11:37,460 --> 00:11:41,960 hundred and seventeen thousand net ink. I mean on revenues over it's 125 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:47,040 fences five hundred forty thousand six seventy four. As you see it's had 126 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:53,180 positive cash flows that last year. Anyway the fund balance available eight hundred 127 00:11:53,180 --> 00:11:58,300 sixty thousand two fifty. It was fourteen last year. It was almost doubled from 128 00:11:58,300 --> 00:12:09,680 prior year. The percentage, 40.62 percent. It was 14.99 last year, so they were going up. 129 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:21,500 The next one, just total cash, your governmental, you had a 10.9 million dollars, your enterprise 130 00:12:21,500 --> 00:12:23,920 funds, 17.6 million. 131 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:29,500 The governmentals went down a little bit, but your enterprise funds went up. 132 00:12:30,260 --> 00:12:33,180 As you see, it's still been kind of going up over the past three years. 133 00:12:35,990 --> 00:12:37,510 And that's when the long-term debt 134 00:12:38,830 --> 00:12:47,730 governmental, 56 million, 332 thousand, and 15 million, 284, in your enterprise funds. This year, 135 00:12:47,930 --> 00:12:52,770 we put up sick leave, something else being on the books, but now we have to put them on the books. So sick leave, 136 00:12:52,770 --> 00:12:59,070 I think it is in that and it's a pretty good size number so I'll tell you won't pay it 137 00:12:59,070 --> 00:13:04,750 paper for a tire and put it to the retirement for years of service etcetera but it's 138 00:13:04,750 --> 00:13:05,250 included. 139 00:13:07,310 --> 00:13:14,170 Any questions on long-term debt? The next one is just your current tax levy for 140 00:13:14,170 --> 00:13:17,850 The current year, 12 million, 882 thousand. 141 00:13:18,430 --> 00:13:21,790 It was 11 million, 456 thousand last year. 142 00:13:22,130 --> 00:13:24,550 See taxes, what a million for from prior years. 143 00:13:28,390 --> 00:13:33,430 The next one, your collection rate, 94.83% total, 144 00:13:34,550 --> 00:13:38,570 94.27, real and personal, and 100% motor vehicle. 145 00:13:39,370 --> 00:13:41,350 I was saying the southeast, these counties down here, 146 00:13:41,490 --> 00:13:44,210 93% are higher, 10 to be good. 147 00:13:44,210 --> 00:13:47,030 unless you're at the beach, they tend to bail us a hundred percent. 148 00:13:47,410 --> 00:13:50,550 So anyway, that's a good rate, 94.8, 3. 149 00:13:52,990 --> 00:13:57,430 With that, that kind of hits all the hotspots, especially ones LGC likes to look at. 150 00:13:58,250 --> 00:14:03,090 But this is last year's old at now, 6.35, 7.26. 151 00:14:04,890 --> 00:14:06,490 Any questions, comments? 152 00:14:12,590 --> 00:14:14,950 Man, you got anything to add to that? 153 00:14:15,090 --> 00:14:15,750 Thank you. 154 00:14:17,930 --> 00:14:17,990 Thank you. 155 00:14:18,030 --> 00:14:23,870 We'll see you. 156 00:14:29,910 --> 00:14:30,430 Here. 157 00:14:30,430 --> 00:14:31,410 Thank you. 158 00:14:33,070 --> 00:14:33,550 Mayor. 159 00:14:34,470 --> 00:14:39,510 Could the city manager tell the audience why LGC stands for so that they might understand? 160 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:43,040 Sure. 161 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:43,460 Well, now what? 162 00:14:43,740 --> 00:14:43,980 LGC's Food? 163 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:46,880 We share with the audience while LGC stands for. 164 00:14:47,140 --> 00:14:48,300 We refer to LGC. 165 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:49,020 You're right. 166 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:49,860 Go ahead. 167 00:14:49,980 --> 00:14:50,660 Through you are all. 168 00:14:50,660 --> 00:14:51,340 I 169 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:16,100 LGC, a local government commission, they have oversight on our financing, they review our audit. And basically, before we can proceed, in this year we have to submit everything, get it approved by them. We were taken off of the watch list last year with our financing, and I think we're all this year also. 170 00:15:16,100 --> 00:15:18,420 of the state. 171 00:15:18,420 --> 00:15:18,860 Thank you. 172 00:15:26,380 --> 00:15:26,980 Thank you. 173 00:15:30,060 --> 00:15:31,000 Thank you. 174 00:15:31,660 --> 00:15:32,100 Thank you. 175 00:15:32,180 --> 00:15:32,440 Thank you. 176 00:15:37,270 --> 00:15:39,030 This is a motion to accept all the. 177 00:15:39,810 --> 00:15:48,110 Make a motion to accept the audit but for the year 2,025, we have that's presented by the green 178 00:15:48,110 --> 00:15:48,570 company. 179 00:15:48,890 --> 00:15:49,190 Second. 180 00:15:49,890 --> 00:15:50,910 Motion on a second. 181 00:15:50,910 --> 00:15:52,430 All those in favor, please say aye. 182 00:15:52,650 --> 00:15:52,830 Aye. 183 00:15:53,710 --> 00:15:53,990 Opposed? 184 00:15:54,370 --> 00:15:54,490 Yeah. 185 00:15:54,490 --> 00:15:58,710 I have to do the public hearing. 186 00:16:01,630 --> 00:16:05,350 Next we'll move to category five public hearings. 187 00:16:08,780 --> 00:16:13,520 Madam Clerk, would you like to read the affidavit for item A, L, Catee, 188 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:15,080 Resonings on all the draw? 189 00:16:15,780 --> 00:16:17,680 This is a continued public hearing. 190 00:16:19,620 --> 00:16:23,900 OK, so the affidavit was read at the initial presentation. 191 00:16:24,540 --> 00:16:24,820 OK. 192 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:26,360 Got the question. 193 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:27,380 Good morning. 194 00:16:27,380 --> 00:16:30,100 Mayor members of Council and staff. 195 00:16:30,660 --> 00:16:36,380 Mr. Alcatheav is requesting to rezone two properties located at 2906 Olive Drive. 196 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:46,320 The parcel numbers are 3218-01008 and 3218-0100801. 197 00:16:46,780 --> 00:16:52,380 On February 9th, Mr. Alcatheav asked Council to table this request to allow him to submit 198 00:16:52,380 --> 00:16:53,340 more information. 199 00:16:53,900 --> 00:16:59,060 Council voted to send this request back to the planning board on June 8th for further review. 200 00:16:59,540 --> 00:17:03,440 Attached in your packet is the additional information that was submitted to us. 201 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:07,940 The planning board held the public meeting on June 16th and unanimously recommended that 202 00:17:07,940 --> 00:17:09,520 Council approve the final draft. 203 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:13,820 The planning staff and planning board asked Council to hold today's public hearing and 204 00:17:13,820 --> 00:17:14,800 approve this request. 205 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:15,960 Thank you. 206 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:24,320 Thank you, we'll open the public hearing, this is a legislative matter so we don't need 207 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:27,880 to swear anybody in with the applicant like to be heard on the matter. 208 00:17:36,170 --> 00:17:43,050 Mayor Council Larry Anderson with Anderson Engineering, Ms. Laney has limited my time today 209 00:17:43,050 --> 00:17:49,070 and as well as the fact that you have an excellent staff that has covered you with great package 210 00:17:49,070 --> 00:17:50,050 and great information. 211 00:17:50,050 --> 00:17:59,470 So, I won't go through my field, we have a good, good project here, a bit great access, 212 00:17:59,990 --> 00:18:07,210 access, access, it'd be a big benefit to our precincts that way. 213 00:18:08,730 --> 00:18:16,730 Gentlemen are going to put a lot of money into a fixed asset project, it's going to generate 214 00:18:16,730 --> 00:18:20,530 revenue for the city be good for the community. 215 00:18:22,290 --> 00:18:27,950 We did do a preliminary site plan, send your package, and be glad to try to answer any 216 00:18:27,950 --> 00:18:30,730 questions that may be generated from that. 217 00:18:30,870 --> 00:18:34,850 Or if you've got any questions overall, I'll be glad to try to answer that. 218 00:18:36,350 --> 00:18:38,410 We'd like for you to review the package. 219 00:18:39,450 --> 00:18:40,230 No questions? 220 00:18:41,150 --> 00:18:44,890 Sound the document and let us go to the next step, which is site development. 221 00:18:45,450 --> 00:18:45,770 Thank you. 222 00:18:45,770 --> 00:18:51,630 have a question for you. Yes sir. For our early conversation, you did say there 223 00:18:51,630 --> 00:18:55,770 would be a road access off of West Drive instead of traffic going on all the 224 00:18:55,770 --> 00:19:01,890 drive. Yes sir. Yes sir. We've looked at the traffic. We've got a three-throwed 225 00:19:01,890 --> 00:19:08,110 two three-throwed entrances and exits off of Fist Street. We have service 226 00:19:08,110 --> 00:19:13,830 equipment that will be exiting to the, I guess that will be to the south on to West 227 00:19:13,830 --> 00:19:21,750 drive and then on to West Fifth Street. We have segregated this entire 228 00:19:21,750 --> 00:19:29,110 track of lands three acres or so from olive drive altogether. So we've created 229 00:19:29,110 --> 00:19:35,550 or planned to create buffers of 20 foot buffer along olive drive as well as a 230 00:19:35,550 --> 00:19:41,930 six foot OPEC fence on the east side of our property. I've had some concerns from 231 00:19:41,930 --> 00:19:48,550 the red simulator. One of the concerns was their concerns was a vape shop or a skill 232 00:19:48,550 --> 00:19:57,210 game activity. Well, anything, that big thing. And with the owners, be willing to work 233 00:19:57,210 --> 00:20:01,190 with lower enforcement because we have some issues everywhere with some homeless and 234 00:20:01,190 --> 00:20:05,870 stuff. You do. It's a vague any going on in. And some of the neighbors feel like it would 235 00:20:05,870 --> 00:20:11,590 be to be in a fit. They feel better about it. If they have a lower enforcement presence 236 00:20:11,590 --> 00:20:16,410 to see if there may be some new transpastions signs to give the law enforcement authorization 237 00:20:16,410 --> 00:20:18,570 to do what they need to do to handle on some of those issues. 238 00:20:20,170 --> 00:20:26,910 Councilman, these folks are putting several millions of dollars into this project and would 239 00:20:26,910 --> 00:20:33,810 welcome any help and are willing to work with whatever agency they need to to ensure that 240 00:20:33,810 --> 00:20:35,610 that asset is protected. 241 00:20:36,470 --> 00:20:37,270 Thank you, sir. 242 00:20:37,270 --> 00:20:45,770 there. Yes. Excuse me, Eric. On the safe side. Would you like to add those conditions? 243 00:20:46,170 --> 00:20:52,430 I would definitely. You'll approve. We'll definitely have those. It was going to be my next 244 00:20:52,430 --> 00:20:53,530 step there willing to. 245 00:20:56,910 --> 00:21:01,790 I'm representative. Don't have the final say so. I'm sure of those 246 00:21:01,790 --> 00:21:11,410 that both the clients, both the honors would be more than welcome to. I don't see any 247 00:21:11,410 --> 00:21:15,170 I'm here, but I'm entering to that agreement. 248 00:21:15,570 --> 00:21:17,050 I wouldn't, I don't think there will be a problem 249 00:21:17,050 --> 00:21:19,530 with that being attached to any kind of, 250 00:21:19,610 --> 00:21:21,570 any kind of approval recommendation. 251 00:21:22,410 --> 00:21:23,250 Art, Ms. Arbor. 252 00:21:23,470 --> 00:21:25,090 Yes, I need to say something about that real quick. 253 00:21:25,310 --> 00:21:25,490 Okay. 254 00:21:26,930 --> 00:21:29,330 So if we're going to add conditions to the rezoning, 255 00:21:29,330 --> 00:21:30,850 we have to convert this application 256 00:21:30,850 --> 00:21:32,830 to a conditional rezoning application. 257 00:21:33,510 --> 00:21:35,590 So that's the only way that we can add conditions. 258 00:21:35,670 --> 00:21:37,570 And of course, they would have to approve the conditions. 259 00:21:38,910 --> 00:21:39,470 Thank you. 260 00:21:39,470 --> 00:21:41,450 and would it have to come back? 261 00:21:41,830 --> 00:21:42,590 One point before you could do that. 262 00:21:43,470 --> 00:21:44,330 You could come back? 263 00:21:44,750 --> 00:21:45,410 Yes, it would. 264 00:21:45,610 --> 00:21:45,970 Yeah. 265 00:21:46,670 --> 00:21:47,350 Yes, it would. 266 00:21:47,750 --> 00:21:49,650 I mean, if you had someone here 267 00:21:49,650 --> 00:21:52,770 that could consent to that, probably go forward. 268 00:21:52,830 --> 00:21:54,310 Yeah, because we could do the application. 269 00:21:54,310 --> 00:21:55,270 That is not an issue. 270 00:21:55,450 --> 00:21:57,250 But the property owner would have 271 00:21:57,250 --> 00:21:58,310 to be here to consent. 272 00:22:00,270 --> 00:22:01,470 We're looking for your next committee. 273 00:22:01,830 --> 00:22:01,990 Could. 274 00:22:03,370 --> 00:22:05,270 What time frame are you all looking? 275 00:22:05,270 --> 00:22:07,530 It may be trying to get this up and going. 276 00:22:12,360 --> 00:22:15,860 I think our next meeting will be until September, I believe. 277 00:22:16,540 --> 00:22:22,320 Councilman Chavis, perhaps if we were to just table this to the end of the meeting and 278 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:26,400 he could maybe contact one of the property owners and get them to come between now and 279 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:29,140 the time we finish, we might be able to resolve this today. 280 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:40,020 I think the manager, he just had an ideal to do a conditional consent, add it in now at 281 00:22:40,020 --> 00:22:47,520 that motion if they will accept that. Okay, but if not, then we come back. Is that possible? 282 00:22:48,300 --> 00:22:52,340 Mr. Attorney. Yeah, I mean, I guess you would basically approve it as a conditional 283 00:22:52,340 --> 00:22:57,800 rezoning with those items. You need to be specific, you know, what you're taking out. Um, 284 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:05,620 and then if the client ends up not being fine with that, we'll just revisit it and, um, 285 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:15,560 if he's fine, that would be the end. But we need to leave knowing exactly what those conditions 286 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:20,620 are. I understand it will be no vape shop. No. Yeah, because we already have two already 287 00:23:20,620 --> 00:23:29,180 over there. Right. So. And we have a skill machine across just a couple of hundreds of yards 288 00:23:29,180 --> 00:23:33,660 wafing their property. These are two of the main. I'm pretty sure I knew that 100 problems 289 00:23:33,660 --> 00:23:37,160 working a law enforcement or whatever it needs to be done but if we can get those two 290 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:41,640 items taken care of they have new problems. I personally don't see a problem with that. 291 00:23:43,120 --> 00:23:52,080 These gentlemen have facilities within our community already and I don't believe they have 292 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:58,300 been problems or represented problem establishments. Would you like to contact them and we come back 293 00:23:58,300 --> 00:24:01,120 I'll try to, you know, to meet and finalize it. 294 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:01,780 I'll try to. 295 00:24:02,120 --> 00:24:02,500 Okay. 296 00:24:02,660 --> 00:24:08,860 So your concerns are vape shop, skill, skill game, skill game. 297 00:24:09,120 --> 00:24:09,360 Yeah. 298 00:24:09,420 --> 00:24:11,140 And then what was the condition about? 299 00:24:11,700 --> 00:24:17,240 Well, it would help if they would be willing to put some new trust past the signs that 300 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:21,820 we give law enforcement something to work with as far as hell, and well, I think I understand 301 00:24:21,820 --> 00:24:22,400 what you're saying. 302 00:24:22,580 --> 00:24:28,060 Law enforcement is kind of crippled unless there is a sign that's happened to me saying 303 00:24:28,060 --> 00:24:30,840 and no trespassing after hours or something similar. 304 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:34,620 I guess I run the documents of a friend-in-law enforcement 305 00:24:35,250 --> 00:24:37,400 after rising down is to act the front of that. 306 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:42,700 The other item, if I might raise it, 307 00:24:42,860 --> 00:24:44,320 not trying to beat up on the applicant, 308 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:47,420 but there's been a lot of discussion about the site plan. 309 00:24:47,820 --> 00:24:50,480 And I think that was maybe a request of sorts 310 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:51,360 from the planning board. 311 00:24:51,360 --> 00:24:53,720 We appreciate the applicant being willing to do that. 312 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:57,620 But if we passed it just the way you described, 313 00:24:57,620 --> 00:25:04,620 that site plan would not be legally binding at all so I don't know if you want to add that as the 314 00:25:04,620 --> 00:25:09,160 condition with minor changes being allowed by the planning department but I just wanted to 315 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:18,680 point that out. If I might interject council the site plan is nowhere near complete. The site plan 316 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:25,920 was marked a site plan for an exhibit. There are several permit processes and we have to go 317 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:29,220 through before that site plan is is appropriate. 318 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:33,000 There's one point out there's some key factors in there. 319 00:25:33,120 --> 00:25:35,780 Like, no, it's on all the drive and things like that. 320 00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:38,000 If you're banking on, you 321 00:25:40,010 --> 00:25:40,410 said that. 322 00:25:40,510 --> 00:25:42,030 Yeah, I think they already had that in place. 323 00:25:42,250 --> 00:25:45,250 There's been Mr. Minneson had talked about that previously, 324 00:25:45,270 --> 00:25:53,710 so in fact, um, yes, but the buffer buffers, uh, and excludes access to all 325 00:25:53,710 --> 00:25:59,470 drive all right there's an existing two thousand square feet single family 326 00:25:59,470 --> 00:26:05,510 residents that's going to remain and it will be converted into an office it will 327 00:26:05,510 --> 00:26:10,990 be within that buffer right behind that buffer be accessed from the the 328 00:26:10,990 --> 00:26:17,670 shopping center and become part of the complex itself may be office for the 329 00:26:17,670 --> 00:26:18,170 development. 330 00:26:24,750 --> 00:26:28,570 Sounds like we're going to maybe wait until the end of the meeting to take 331 00:26:28,570 --> 00:26:32,430 any action but my only point is you better put it in there as a condition if you want 332 00:26:32,430 --> 00:26:39,230 it or else it's just a handshake which is fine but I don't say I didn't tell you. 333 00:26:41,130 --> 00:26:45,510 If you can make contact with those and try to try. I would appreciate it. 334 00:26:45,510 --> 00:26:46,910 to adjourn that until a later point. 335 00:26:47,510 --> 00:26:48,790 Okay, thank you. 336 00:26:48,950 --> 00:26:49,610 Thank you, sir. 337 00:26:49,870 --> 00:26:50,130 Yes, sir. 338 00:26:50,890 --> 00:26:51,450 Anything else? 339 00:26:51,590 --> 00:26:55,330 Okay, before we adjourn it, just for the benefit of, 340 00:26:55,530 --> 00:26:58,410 is there anyone here, anyone else who would like to speak, 341 00:26:58,550 --> 00:27:00,410 because we hate for everybody else to have to wait 342 00:27:00,410 --> 00:27:02,170 to the end if there's somebody. 343 00:27:02,790 --> 00:27:04,570 Anyone else here that speak on the project? 344 00:27:05,450 --> 00:27:06,310 I don't see anyone. 345 00:27:07,390 --> 00:27:08,350 Okay, all right. 346 00:27:08,410 --> 00:27:10,990 But I was the same as a plan board making 347 00:27:10,990 --> 00:27:12,510 we didn't have any opposition at all. 348 00:27:13,270 --> 00:27:14,370 Thank you, Mr. Amish. 349 00:27:14,370 --> 00:27:18,730 Yes, sir. All right, so that's on hold and we'll move to the next 350 00:27:20,130 --> 00:27:21,370 public hearing 351 00:27:30,360 --> 00:27:36,740 I just had to say ordinance this is pertaining to the vehicular 352 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:42,820 Automated ordinance that correct. That's correct. Is there an affidavit for that? 353 00:27:43,580 --> 00:27:44,560 Yes, sir 354 00:27:45,030 --> 00:27:50,560 The affidavit of publication is from the Robert Stanley and it shows that on June 27th 355 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:57,040 July 4th and July 11th, 2026, notices were published here in B. Hill today. 356 00:27:57,660 --> 00:28:02,260 The purpose of the public hearing is to consider an amendment to the land use ordinance 357 00:28:02,260 --> 00:28:05,720 by creating an ordinance regulating automotive. 358 00:28:08,100 --> 00:28:11,240 Thank you. Based on the research, 359 00:28:11,360 --> 00:28:15,460 we have developed a draft ordinance that we believe is suitable for the city of Lumberton. 360 00:28:16,380 --> 00:28:20,860 The scope of the, excuse me, the scope of the amendment addresses various types of automotive 361 00:28:20,860 --> 00:28:26,320 of establishment and outlines general standards for all new and existing establishments. 362 00:28:26,700 --> 00:28:33,840 It addresses automotive pain and body shops, automotive parts, sales, installation, repair 363 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:41,260 and service without pain and body, record services, auto detailing, car wash, tires, mounting 364 00:28:41,260 --> 00:28:47,020 transmission or muffler shops, and the additional provisions would be to provide one year for 365 00:28:47,020 --> 00:28:52,740 existing establishments to comply with these standards or face a $200 per day penalty. 366 00:28:53,580 --> 00:28:58,740 New salvage yards are prohibited in the special flood hazard areas unless a variance is granted. 367 00:28:59,300 --> 00:29:03,960 And all automotive establishments must comply with the broader city of Lumberton code. 368 00:29:04,980 --> 00:29:08,920 The planning board held the public meeting on June 16th and unanimously recommended that 369 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:10,520 council approve the final draft. 370 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:14,920 And the planning staff and planning board asked council to hold today's public hearing and 371 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:19,460 and approve the new ordinance regulating automotive establishments within the city's jurisdiction. 372 00:29:20,020 --> 00:29:20,580 Thank you. 373 00:29:21,340 --> 00:29:22,120 Thank you. 374 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:23,380 Open the public hearing. 375 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:25,500 Is there anyone that would like to be heard on this item? 376 00:29:32,770 --> 00:29:33,750 Close the public hearing. 377 00:29:33,870 --> 00:29:34,790 What's the pleasure of Council? 378 00:29:34,990 --> 00:29:35,630 I have a question. 379 00:29:37,090 --> 00:29:38,050 Dr. Kerstner. 380 00:29:38,390 --> 00:29:38,790 Yes, sir. 381 00:29:39,010 --> 00:29:45,210 On the item D on the last page is saying that it's got one year from the effective date of this new ordinance 382 00:29:45,830 --> 00:29:49,050 to change out the fencing, the screen. 383 00:29:49,890 --> 00:29:59,610 And it's all everywhere I read saying that it has to be wooden fence for the new, yes, because you all just approved the fence changes. 384 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:28,360 Okay, so the existing facilities that don't have those fences, what are we going to do there? Well, with the previous ordinance that we had approved, we're addressing that with that one. So we gave them 90 days to comply, but we really haven't started addressing it yet. What I'm doing is I'm sending our code enforcement officer around just to inform them of the ordinance again and let them know that, you know, they have some time to do so with their time limit is. 385 00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:34,720 So once we do that first round and then if they haven't complied, then we'll go ahead and send a written notice 386 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:40,060 And then that's when the 90 days would start. Yeah, all over town. There's some unsightly places 387 00:30:40,060 --> 00:30:47,700 Pretty can see it not only from the front of the establishment from the side and so if they're gonna go to wooden fences 388 00:30:47,700 --> 00:30:56,240 Is that gonna be a burden for many of them? I guess to come up with that kind of a funds to to build those. Well 389 00:30:56,240 --> 00:31:00,900 Well, yes, we just it could be for some of the businesses. 390 00:31:00,900 --> 00:31:05,880 Yes, I don't know pretty sure it could be. 391 00:31:05,940 --> 00:31:08,440 Well, there certainly some places need to be addressed. 392 00:31:08,620 --> 00:31:09,040 Right. 393 00:31:09,420 --> 00:31:09,580 Yeah. 394 00:31:09,740 --> 00:31:14,600 The ones that we are mainly targeting is the it's not vinyl. 395 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:18,560 What is it that mesh material that they they use? 396 00:31:18,660 --> 00:31:18,840 Right. 397 00:31:20,060 --> 00:31:23,700 We're really addressing a lot of those because they get torn and they don't get replaced. 398 00:31:23,700 --> 00:31:27,020 And they don't even do what it's supposed to do in that screen. 399 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:30,120 You can still see through them, along with the slats as well. 400 00:31:30,580 --> 00:31:33,840 You can still see through the plastic slats that go through the chain link fence. 401 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:38,140 So the intent of the ordinance is to make sure that it's completely screened. 402 00:31:38,180 --> 00:31:39,840 And those two do not do that. 403 00:31:40,540 --> 00:31:43,380 Like many ordinances, they're hard to enforce. 404 00:31:43,940 --> 00:31:44,240 They are. 405 00:31:44,340 --> 00:31:48,900 So just, you know, want to get everybody's opinion about that as well. 406 00:31:48,900 --> 00:31:52,900 But there are some places need to be addressed very badly. 407 00:31:52,900 --> 00:31:58,760 Yes, of course, no, one other question when it does say I would vent for a masonry wall 408 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:05,120 You know a lot of people are going with a vinyl dancing now. Would that be considered in that as well? 409 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:12,700 As long as it is opaque and you cannot see do it at all. It's the same. Yes, it'll fencing, but it's not wood. It's vinyl 410 00:32:12,700 --> 00:32:18,980 That is perfectly fine. Okay. Yes, they can do that and this gives us the city of more 411 00:32:18,980 --> 00:32:21,720 for teeth, so to speak, to make things happen. 412 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:22,780 That is correct, yes. 413 00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:25,560 I appreciate it. 414 00:32:26,180 --> 00:32:27,940 But very like the Councilman rises here, 415 00:32:27,940 --> 00:32:29,100 there are some places in Lombard, 416 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:32,740 and it really needs cleaning up or some heating. 417 00:32:37,870 --> 00:32:39,050 Oh, Trill, you talked just a little bit 418 00:32:39,050 --> 00:32:40,270 about enforcement provision. 419 00:32:41,130 --> 00:32:43,170 We have folks that they receive notices 420 00:32:43,170 --> 00:32:44,910 that they basically ignore the notices, 421 00:32:45,870 --> 00:32:49,470 nor the penalties kind of address enforcement with them. 422 00:32:49,970 --> 00:32:52,210 Okay, so like I said previously, 423 00:32:52,210 --> 00:32:55,550 just for that section, what we do is I'll send my 424 00:32:55,550 --> 00:32:56,950 code enforcement officer, Mr. 425 00:32:57,110 --> 00:33:01,590 Mons out there to verbally inform them that there's a 426 00:33:01,590 --> 00:33:05,590 violation and you know what needs to be done to be to 427 00:33:05,590 --> 00:33:09,090 correct it. Once after a certain period of time, then we'll 428 00:33:09,090 --> 00:33:11,330 send the written notice if it has not been done already. 429 00:33:12,010 --> 00:33:15,010 So after that is usually a week or two weeks depending on 430 00:33:15,010 --> 00:33:19,450 the extent and like I said, depending on the what needs to 431 00:33:19,450 --> 00:33:21,830 be done, we can kind of link them that time if we know 432 00:33:21,830 --> 00:33:27,030 was going to be more than two weeks. But if it doesn't comply by then, then we issue 433 00:33:27,030 --> 00:33:30,150 the monetary fine, which is the citations. 434 00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:34,420 Or does it go from there or if they don't pay the fines? 435 00:33:34,500 --> 00:33:39,720 If they don't pay the fines and comply, then it will go up to the city attorney for legal 436 00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:40,080 actions. 437 00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:46,100 And what would be the legal action, Mr. Oak? We need to put that out there right now. 438 00:33:48,900 --> 00:33:53,320 Well, if I'm not mistaken, most of these fines are on a daily basis, is that wrong? 439 00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:53,820 That's correct. 440 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:56,680 The time we get a court, we tell you what it is. 441 00:33:56,780 --> 00:33:59,160 Over all those days, it's usually $5,000,000. 442 00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:01,780 So we'd be seeking to collect the fines. 443 00:34:02,140 --> 00:34:04,640 We'd be seeking an injunction from the court, 444 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:09,380 basically saying, Mr. Honor, you are enjoined from further 445 00:34:09,900 --> 00:34:11,300 a violation of our ordinance. 446 00:34:12,820 --> 00:34:14,500 And those are the main things. 447 00:34:14,500 --> 00:34:16,360 And then just a declaration that they 448 00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:17,840 are in violation of our ordinance. 449 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,740 So then the benefit of that injunction is now 450 00:34:20,740 --> 00:34:23,960 you've got the the judge breathed out their net you know it's like one thing you 451 00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:28,760 want of them your nose at us but now if you violate it they're in contempt and 452 00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:34,240 so forth so that would be that would be the plan. I guess what I'm looking at 453 00:34:34,240 --> 00:34:40,400 like we have people with skill games of arcade and we didn't did defines we didn't 454 00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:44,280 did the court we didn't did the judgment we didn't went through the planning and 455 00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:47,240 and stuff, and they're still operating. 456 00:34:47,740 --> 00:34:50,640 So with this, are we still going to be able to do anything? 457 00:34:51,260 --> 00:34:55,580 Well, Councilman, on that topic, planning Dr. Kirschner, 458 00:34:55,740 --> 00:34:59,420 Brian and I, Mr. Norley, we met last week 459 00:34:59,420 --> 00:35:02,300 to kind of say who's still operating on the gaming? 460 00:35:02,980 --> 00:35:07,100 And so their staff is going to go out and ascertain that. 461 00:35:07,340 --> 00:35:09,260 And then we want to talk with you all, 462 00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:12,240 but our plan will be they would need to do some legalization 463 00:35:12,240 --> 00:35:18,420 on those, you know, you know, because the most visible one has come in, you know, and 464 00:35:18,420 --> 00:35:20,640 applied for a special use, but it was denied. 465 00:35:21,620 --> 00:35:27,460 So, you know, and everybody's got eyes on them, and so we certainly don't want to reward 466 00:35:27,460 --> 00:35:28,800 the ones that didn't even come in. 467 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:33,960 So we're going to need to identify everybody that's operating and probably, you know, take 468 00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:35,920 this same type of approach with them. 469 00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:38,220 I wanted to, for that community, I know what he got. 470 00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:42,860 Yeah, if you would like to give us a list, that'll be great as well. 471 00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:46,460 We have a list, but we might be missing some. 472 00:35:47,300 --> 00:35:53,640 And would we need to increase our fines if the $200 a is not getting the message across? 473 00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:55,460 So our- 474 00:35:55,460 --> 00:35:57,160 Probably not collecting any way, but- 475 00:35:57,160 --> 00:35:59,040 No, they're not coming in to pay. 476 00:35:59,240 --> 00:36:03,520 And even the ones that would come in to pay say, oh, we'll be happy to continue paying 477 00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:03,980 the fines. 478 00:36:04,180 --> 00:36:06,300 If the continued operate, I tell them it doesn't work that way. 479 00:36:06,300 --> 00:36:08,760 you have to go ahead and shut down. 480 00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:13,500 But our violations is $200 a day per violation. 481 00:36:13,780 --> 00:36:16,520 And we look at the machines as being a violation in itself. 482 00:36:17,500 --> 00:36:19,300 So it can't get expensive. 483 00:36:19,620 --> 00:36:19,820 Okay. 484 00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:23,600 I mean, I'm like, I'm like, 485 00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:27,620 Councilor Canter, what we're doing just far is not working. 486 00:36:27,820 --> 00:36:27,960 Right. 487 00:36:29,340 --> 00:36:32,040 Another issue that kind of have us in a bind 488 00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:33,300 is we don't know which machines 489 00:36:33,300 --> 00:36:35,540 North Carolina outlawed and which ones they don't. 490 00:36:36,500 --> 00:36:41,840 So other than me being trained or us being trained on which one how to identify it 491 00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:45,360 It's kind of difficult. So we kind of use it as just our 492 00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:47,360 Ordnance electronic gaming period 493 00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:51,100 One last question from me 494 00:36:51,820 --> 00:36:56,500 Since wrong gaming many of those tenants or those leases are 495 00:36:57,100 --> 00:37:06,280 Raining so who's responsible the the person who is renting the property and the landlord or both responsible or how does that work? 496 00:37:06,300 --> 00:37:11,680 okay so we can send the notices to the landlord and the tenant 497 00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:17,420 ultimately it is the property owners responsibility to go in and shut them 498 00:37:17,420 --> 00:37:22,340 down so if they got to court and got to be in the city of Lumberton won the case 499 00:37:22,340 --> 00:37:27,320 and still didn't get it they didn't come in to do didn't pay it whatever we could 500 00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:36,280 attach a lien to the property can we attach a lien to the property well it would have 501 00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:42,480 And then you again have the junction from the court seems you got to stop stuff it goes far enough 502 00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:46,720 It gets pretty serious. We would name them both, but really it's true from a zoning standpoint 503 00:37:46,720 --> 00:37:50,680 You're mainly looking at the property owner, which might be an outener for those landlords 504 00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:52,920 So 505 00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:58,660 If we find the land lowest, I think it may move just a little bit quicker 506 00:37:59,420 --> 00:38:01,440 I think we're 507 00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:07,860 saying hey I paid a fine because I'm making $5,000 per day. Okay but this landlord you know he's 508 00:38:07,860 --> 00:38:13,720 only getting $800,000 rent or $2,000 rent. Well I will share this we had a long discussion 509 00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:20,360 with a fella in blatant accounting who was very involved in their enforcement efforts and he found 510 00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:25,140 that in probably talking at a school but this is straight from his mouth that the landlord had a 511 00:38:25,140 --> 00:38:31,900 percentage. So it's a little different than you might expect. And I can't say that 512 00:38:31,900 --> 00:38:36,880 may not be true for one single property. But that's what I've heard. They're getting 513 00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:37,740 paid pretty good. 514 00:38:37,740 --> 00:38:38,560 I'll rest in my case. 515 00:38:41,420 --> 00:38:46,000 So, are there any other questions back on the automotive? 516 00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:50,100 I forgot, that's where we've gone. 517 00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:52,640 Yeah. 518 00:38:54,720 --> 00:38:59,500 If not, I'd like to commend the planning department for doing such a fine job, because 519 00:38:59,500 --> 00:39:03,840 I've been getting a lot of calls in my area, and we're slow-moving about some of these automobile 520 00:39:04,940 --> 00:39:05,420 places. 521 00:39:05,420 --> 00:39:09,320 is in a, I'd like to come in here for, do you want a great job on getting this together 522 00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:14,260 and, like I say, putting some teeth into it so we can make some things happen. And if 523 00:39:14,260 --> 00:39:16,640 anybody else will have anything to see, I'll make a motion to approve. 524 00:39:17,140 --> 00:39:18,720 I think we still need a public hearing. 525 00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:22,540 I always do need to close the public here and if there's no further comments, so that's 526 00:39:22,540 --> 00:39:22,800 closed. 527 00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:26,220 Thank you. 528 00:39:26,620 --> 00:39:27,660 I'll make a motion to approve. 529 00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:28,400 Thank you. 530 00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:30,160 I'll motion in a second. 531 00:39:30,260 --> 00:39:31,560 All those in favor, please say aye. 532 00:39:31,820 --> 00:39:32,040 Aye. 533 00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:39,080 I'll oppose, before we leave the public here, Mr. Anderson, do you have an answer? 534 00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:42,880 I was thinking while we're still in public hearings before we all get caught. 535 00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:43,700 Thank you, Councillor. 536 00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:44,780 No, I do. 537 00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:53,660 I was able to speak with the client, and he is, as I thought, very appreciative of that offer 538 00:39:53,660 --> 00:39:56,380 with the law enforcement, absolutely no question. 539 00:39:57,100 --> 00:39:59,440 He has no plans for a vape shop. 540 00:39:59,920 --> 00:40:04,940 He has no plans for a gaming facility. 541 00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:11,500 So your request and conditions are totally acceptable to the client. 542 00:40:13,900 --> 00:40:16,240 So we need to make any changes Miss. 543 00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:25,220 Well, what you want to get out of this is up to you. 544 00:40:25,220 --> 00:40:28,180 I know the issue with all the drive has been discussed 545 00:40:28,180 --> 00:40:29,100 at some length. 546 00:40:29,780 --> 00:40:32,420 If that's something that you absolutely want to happen 547 00:40:32,420 --> 00:40:34,280 and that probably needs to be in there. 548 00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:37,900 And the buffer, you know, at least those aspects 549 00:40:37,900 --> 00:40:38,480 of the site. 550 00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:40,940 Now, the buffer is, there's already 551 00:40:40,940 --> 00:40:42,160 a requirement of the zoning order. 552 00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:43,840 All right, so that's not necessary. 553 00:40:44,460 --> 00:40:47,560 Now, the access to West Drive, there's no problem with that. 554 00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:50,160 That can be a condition without question. 555 00:40:51,730 --> 00:41:02,530 There are 3 or 4 existing curb cuts on all of the drive that enter these 2 residential 556 00:41:02,530 --> 00:41:03,110 lots. 557 00:41:03,410 --> 00:41:06,450 The residential lots today that we're trying to reason. 558 00:41:07,190 --> 00:41:14,070 Those will stay in place, but the buffer, the 25th buffer will be there to eliminate any 559 00:41:14,070 --> 00:41:14,390 access. 560 00:41:14,730 --> 00:41:14,890 Right. 561 00:41:16,370 --> 00:41:21,590 But, yes, sir, without question, that's not a problem, no, so that's maybe a good condition. 562 00:41:21,590 --> 00:41:22,790 Thank you, sir. 563 00:41:23,110 --> 00:41:23,430 Yes, sir. 564 00:41:24,050 --> 00:41:24,850 Anything else? 565 00:41:25,510 --> 00:41:25,750 Okay. 566 00:41:26,190 --> 00:41:26,790 That's it. 567 00:41:27,210 --> 00:41:34,610 So it would be to change it to a conditional reason and with the conditions being no vaping 568 00:41:35,350 --> 00:41:40,350 establishments, no electronic gaming, no access on our drive. 569 00:41:40,390 --> 00:41:42,450 I think that was already in place, weren't it? 570 00:41:42,530 --> 00:41:42,650 Correct. 571 00:41:42,830 --> 00:41:44,730 The access was already in place, weren't it? 572 00:41:45,710 --> 00:41:46,590 Yes, sir. 573 00:41:46,990 --> 00:41:47,770 That was discussed. 574 00:41:47,770 --> 00:41:56,210 That was part of our study and our development of the preliminary site plan that is attached, which is absolutely not the final site plan. 575 00:41:56,750 --> 00:41:58,830 All the drive is the one behind it, right? 576 00:41:58,870 --> 00:42:00,370 That's the resident you drive, that's Chris. 577 00:42:00,530 --> 00:42:02,070 That's the one you don't want to access. 578 00:42:02,530 --> 00:42:04,950 Yeah, that's some of the concerns of the residents. 579 00:42:06,330 --> 00:42:09,530 I'm still not quite clear why we want that as a condition. 580 00:42:10,130 --> 00:42:11,650 I'm not talking about less drive, that's. 581 00:42:11,650 --> 00:42:16,310 No, we're talking to head talk one time about coming off a west drive and going in behind 582 00:42:16,310 --> 00:42:18,470 Burger King using this and it's going to you. 583 00:42:18,590 --> 00:42:19,370 Is that okay? 584 00:42:19,610 --> 00:42:19,830 Yeah. 585 00:42:20,290 --> 00:42:20,730 Okay. 586 00:42:20,950 --> 00:42:22,170 So west drive is okay. 587 00:42:22,530 --> 00:42:23,510 We don't need to prohibit that. 588 00:42:23,790 --> 00:42:23,930 No. 589 00:42:24,030 --> 00:42:24,550 No, no, no. 590 00:42:24,830 --> 00:42:25,150 Okay. 591 00:42:25,250 --> 00:42:28,330 But that was just concerns about a large traffic going down in all of driving. 592 00:42:28,470 --> 00:42:35,510 And we're doing all have any condition, any concerns over limiting or excluding access to 593 00:42:35,510 --> 00:42:35,950 all of drive. 594 00:42:41,630 --> 00:42:43,690 and no access on all the drive. 595 00:42:43,990 --> 00:42:44,250 Yes, sir. 596 00:42:44,390 --> 00:42:44,710 Okay. 597 00:42:45,050 --> 00:42:48,110 That would be the motion to approve as a conditional zone 598 00:42:48,110 --> 00:42:49,090 or with those conditions. 599 00:42:49,650 --> 00:42:51,930 And we're starting to point with the police before. 600 00:42:52,050 --> 00:42:52,210 Yeah. 601 00:42:52,350 --> 00:42:52,850 I think we're on the right. 602 00:42:53,130 --> 00:42:53,510 Okay. 603 00:42:53,750 --> 00:42:54,770 He was excited. 604 00:42:55,930 --> 00:42:57,530 He was excited about that. 605 00:42:57,890 --> 00:42:59,170 That's not a condition, right? 606 00:42:59,410 --> 00:43:00,410 That's just okay. 607 00:43:01,050 --> 00:43:03,270 That's not really a condition, but I think they work with them. 608 00:43:03,630 --> 00:43:03,750 Yeah. 609 00:43:03,990 --> 00:43:04,930 That's to their benefit. 610 00:43:05,130 --> 00:43:05,250 Yeah. 611 00:43:05,990 --> 00:43:06,710 That a bit of. 612 00:43:06,730 --> 00:43:08,250 I didn't want to trust passing signs. 613 00:43:08,350 --> 00:43:09,010 I can take that off. 614 00:43:10,770 --> 00:43:14,610 They're going to have to have their trespassions and give the law enforcement 615 00:43:14,610 --> 00:43:22,390 authorization to do what they need to do. I think that's part of the process 616 00:43:22,390 --> 00:43:28,710 for my understanding. So we're going to convert it. We're going to convert it 617 00:43:28,710 --> 00:43:34,530 to a conditional rezoning with no vape shops, no electronic gaming and no access 618 00:43:34,530 --> 00:43:41,830 us to all of drive. Right. Okay. I got it. Thank you so much. So what we can do, um, once they submit, 619 00:43:42,070 --> 00:43:47,670 since this is all on record, um, I think can we go ahead and approve it that way? And then they 620 00:43:47,670 --> 00:43:51,950 just submit us the application. I'll go ahead and write it up that way. I mean, my thinking on that is 621 00:43:51,950 --> 00:43:56,370 the public has been aware of the rezone request and all you're doing is scaling it back. Yeah. 622 00:44:02,530 --> 00:44:02,890 I'm 623 00:44:02,890 --> 00:44:06,650 make a motion to approve of the public hearing from earlier okay close to 624 00:44:06,650 --> 00:44:14,990 public hearing I'll make a make a motion to approve with the added terms that 625 00:44:14,990 --> 00:44:21,390 we just added as far as the interests and as a motion the second is all in 626 00:44:21,390 --> 00:44:31,610 favor thank you thank you that's all the public hearing thank you so much for 627 00:44:31,610 --> 00:44:35,150 We're doing this little two step for the project. 628 00:44:35,630 --> 00:44:36,590 Appreciate you having a great time. 629 00:44:37,090 --> 00:44:37,550 Thanks, sir. 630 00:44:41,300 --> 00:44:44,360 Kim, Mayor, so we just need the clerk to. 631 00:44:45,060 --> 00:44:46,940 Mayor, can I make one comment? 632 00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:47,800 Yes, sir. 633 00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:54,000 As it involves Dr. Kerstner in that, and what we just talked 634 00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:56,520 about, the no trespassing sign, no lawtering sign. 635 00:44:57,220 --> 00:44:59,960 Any business that needs to be done. 636 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:29,680 Always have something of that nature in order for our police department to respond when there's a situation like the hobby lobby or something like that. It's just one to ask you why you're here. I know it's not pertinent to that, but I didn't cast a question. I'm sorry. If the likes the money hobby lobby, they've got a problem. Somebody's homeless or un sheltered or somebody's there. The landlord or somebody needs to have a no trespassing agreement or some kind of no ordering signs. 637 00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:33,040 in order for our police department to come on their private property to enforce. 638 00:45:33,420 --> 00:45:33,540 Right. 639 00:45:33,540 --> 00:45:34,180 Is that not correct? 640 00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:35,060 That is correct, yes. 641 00:45:35,140 --> 00:45:40,420 And I wish that more of our people in Lumberton would recognize that because that 642 00:45:40,420 --> 00:45:45,200 gets to be a problem thinking that we can just go on private property and do something 643 00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:50,800 about it without sign documentation from the landlord and the person running the business. 644 00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:51,800 Right, that's correct. 645 00:45:51,940 --> 00:45:53,580 I wish we could advertise that a little bit. 646 00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:55,900 Maybe I'll put up the information. 647 00:45:55,900 --> 00:45:57,700 I don't know if you guys know who I am. 648 00:45:57,700 --> 00:46:01,500 Those forms are available to the police department or our office. 649 00:46:03,730 --> 00:46:04,650 Thank you. 650 00:46:05,550 --> 00:46:06,210 Madam 651 00:46:09,890 --> 00:46:11,350 Clerk, would you like to... 652 00:46:11,350 --> 00:46:12,730 I'm sorry, is there a motion approved? 653 00:46:13,050 --> 00:46:13,770 Consent agenda? 654 00:46:14,210 --> 00:46:16,610 Yes, as written in... 655 00:46:16,610 --> 00:46:17,690 18 page document. 656 00:46:18,170 --> 00:46:18,690 Thank you. 657 00:46:20,090 --> 00:46:20,930 I'll unpack. 658 00:46:21,490 --> 00:46:21,850 Hi. 659 00:46:23,770 --> 00:46:24,710 Sadie Miss Lee. 660 00:46:30,390 --> 00:46:33,170 Well, the next presenter is Linda Adams. 661 00:46:52,660 --> 00:46:58,460 The first item I have is for lead service line inventory amendment number four. 662 00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:03,320 Public works is applied for and receive five grants related to the lead service inventories 663 00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:05,720 of water popping as required by the U.S. EPA. 664 00:47:06,500 --> 00:47:15,520 These are related to a requirement for any water service installed prior to 1986 to be inspected to verify pipe zeros on each side of the meter. 665 00:47:16,100 --> 00:47:24,820 This amendment is for a current contract with the Wooten Company who has been administering the work related to the previous four phases of this project. 666 00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:33,380 This amendment will allow Wooten Company to continue to perform the same administrative and field work for the newly awarded phase five part of this project. 667 00:47:33,380 --> 00:47:43,940 This new amendment is for $95,000, which will be paid for out of the DWI grant, which was for $1 million. 668 00:47:45,020 --> 00:47:56,700 Public Works recommends Council approval for the contract for amendment 4 with the Wooten Company for the lead service image work project with funds being available for the recently awarded base five DWI grants. 669 00:47:57,060 --> 00:47:57,840 Motion to approve. 670 00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:01,460 I have a motion on a second. All those in favor, please say aye. 671 00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:02,720 All opposed. 672 00:48:03,500 --> 00:48:05,900 Yes, have it for you may continue. 673 00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:10,520 Next item I have is for high service pump motor purchase. 674 00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:16,800 Council has previously approved the purchase in a capital budget for a high service pump motor 675 00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:19,960 for the water treatment plant with a budget of $40,000. 676 00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:26,940 Well, it works staff have received a quote from American pump corporation in the amount of $38,042 677 00:48:26,940 --> 00:48:30,440 dollars and 32 cents for the sole source item. 678 00:48:31,380 --> 00:48:36,420 Public Works recommends Council approval of the purchase of a spare house service pump 679 00:48:36,420 --> 00:48:43,300 motor from American pump court in the amount of $38,000 and $42.32 with funds being made 680 00:48:43,300 --> 00:48:48,120 available from the capital code, $6,082.20, $5860. 681 00:48:49,860 --> 00:48:54,460 I have a motion and a second. All those in favor, please say aye. All opposed? 682 00:48:55,300 --> 00:48:56,700 Yes, have it. You may continue. 683 00:48:57,640 --> 00:49:03,000 This next one, I'm going to kind of gloss over the first part and get through. 684 00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:08,520 This is a project that's been going on for close to 15 to 20 years. 685 00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:13,180 Been worked on trying to get to for the Link All Road, Railroad Colbert project. 686 00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:22,180 This project was originally advertised on April 26th in the Robisonian for a bid opening of May 26th. 687 00:49:22,740 --> 00:49:27,360 The advertisement for the bids was also submitted to different plan rooms within the Wooten Company. 688 00:49:27,740 --> 00:49:36,940 They received less than three bids, so it was re-advertised with a bid opening of June 10th, 2026 in the Lumberton Community Room. 689 00:49:36,940 --> 00:49:39,960 Re-advertisement was issued to all plan holders. 690 00:49:42,860 --> 00:49:47,940 There were two bids that were received, BCM Construction Management of Lumberton, North 691 00:49:47,940 --> 00:49:58,780 Carolina, for a bid of $749,501, and the terror group of Lumberton for $756,000. 692 00:49:59,260 --> 00:50:04,620 The bid received from BCM Construction Management was considered a non-responsible as they 693 00:50:04,620 --> 00:50:14,640 the appropriate general contractor classification, the instructions to the bidder states that the bidders must have general contractor's license with one of the following classification limitations. 694 00:50:16,340 --> 00:50:19,820 Highway unclassified was the main one that they lacked. 695 00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:29,440 Based on that, all of the information as discussed and the attached bid recommendations from the Wooten Company, 696 00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:42,080 Public Works and the Wooten Company offer no objection to the rejection of the non-responsible bid for B.C.M. Construction Management Inc. and the award of the link-all-road flood mitigation project to 697 00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:47,520 Terry Group of Lumberton, North Carolina with the bid amount of $756,000. 698 00:50:49,740 --> 00:50:53,520 I have a motion and a second. All those in favor, please say aye. 699 00:50:54,100 --> 00:50:57,200 All opposed. I have it. You may continue. 700 00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:01,440 This next item is for a leaf vac trailer purchase. 701 00:51:02,020 --> 00:51:06,340 Council has previously approved the purchase of a leaf vac trailer for public work staff to 702 00:51:06,340 --> 00:51:11,300 use to supplement waste management equipment within the current budget year. 703 00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:14,620 The budget of the amount was for $121,000. 704 00:51:14,620 --> 00:51:19,420 Public Work Staff has a quote from Joe Johnson Equipment of Charlotte, North Carolina. 705 00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:23,220 This is coming from North Carolina Sheriff's Association State Contract. 706 00:51:24,420 --> 00:51:29,580 Public Works recommends Council approval of this leaf vac trailer from Joe Johnson Equipment 707 00:51:29,580 --> 00:51:37,060 of Charlotte, North Carolina, in the amount of $120,545 with funds being made available from 708 00:51:37,060 --> 00:51:41,520 the Capitol Code, 6,780, 147, 4710. 709 00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:46,720 second? Second. We have a motion and a second. All those in favor please say aye. 710 00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:49,000 Aye. Aye. All opposed? Yes. 711 00:51:49,260 --> 00:51:51,440 You may continue Mr. Walton. 712 00:51:51,820 --> 00:52:00,040 The last item that I have is for led service line replacement and sewer improvements RFQ 713 00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:06,240 award. Public Works advertised an RFQ for the led service line replacement and sewer improvements 714 00:52:06,240 --> 00:52:15,600 project on 11 May 2026 with responses due Tuesday, 16 June 2026. Public Works received two 715 00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:22,100 responses for the RFQ from the Wooten Company and McGill Associates. City staff have evaluated 716 00:52:22,100 --> 00:52:27,920 the two proposals using the scope categories provided in RFQ and provided the following 717 00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:34,900 scoring matrices. Based on the scoring matrix, Public Works recommends Council approval of 718 00:52:34,900 --> 00:52:37,140 RFQ Award to the Wooten Company. 719 00:52:38,780 --> 00:52:39,520 Motion to approve. 720 00:52:40,060 --> 00:52:40,300 Second. 721 00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:41,900 We have a motion, nine a second. 722 00:52:42,020 --> 00:52:43,400 All those in favor, please say aye. 723 00:52:44,380 --> 00:52:44,820 All opposed. 724 00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:46,240 The ayes have it. 725 00:52:46,820 --> 00:52:47,800 Thank you very much. 726 00:52:48,780 --> 00:52:49,500 All right, all right. 727 00:52:49,620 --> 00:52:50,120 Thank you. 728 00:52:50,540 --> 00:52:52,820 Our next presenter, Dr. Kertzmann. 729 00:52:53,380 --> 00:52:54,160 Thank you. 730 00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:58,300 Mr. John Harper is requesting a contiguous annexation 731 00:52:58,300 --> 00:53:01,520 for properties located on Linkal Road and Metal Road. 732 00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:09,880 So this request consists of several properties, excuse me, several properties in approximately 395 acres. 733 00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:21,320 The proposed development known to you all as link off farms is a mixed use subdivision which may include retail general commercial professional offices of school and a mix of residential uses. 734 00:53:21,980 --> 00:53:25,740 We ask City Council to direct the city clerk to investigate this petition. 735 00:53:26,380 --> 00:53:26,860 Thank you. 736 00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:32,580 We have a motion and a second. All those in favor, please say aye. 737 00:53:33,060 --> 00:53:36,440 All opposed. The ayes have it. You may continue. 738 00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:43,540 The next one I have is effect effect and open it up is for a good farm. 739 00:53:43,700 --> 00:53:46,520 They are requesting an annexation as well. 740 00:53:47,380 --> 00:53:52,100 A continuous annexation. This property is located on metal road. 741 00:53:52,100 --> 00:53:58,820 The request consists of one parcel which contains approximately 389 acres known as the Good Farms. 742 00:53:58,980 --> 00:54:01,980 The proposed development is a residential subdivision. 743 00:54:02,380 --> 00:54:06,240 We ask council to direct the city clerk to investigate this petition. 744 00:54:06,580 --> 00:54:07,820 Thank you. 745 00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:09,900 I'll put that in form of a motion. 746 00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:10,500 Second. 747 00:54:11,100 --> 00:54:11,620 I have a motion. 748 00:54:11,740 --> 00:54:12,240 And a second. 749 00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:13,880 I'll let the favor please say aye. 750 00:54:14,820 --> 00:54:17,800 All opposed, you may continue. 751 00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:26,460 Okay, this one, Mr. Craig Hartman, is requesting a special use permit for property located at 5207 Simmons Drive. 752 00:54:26,780 --> 00:54:36,280 This permit will allow him to construct a 3600 square foot accessory structure that does not meet the requirements of Section 35185 C, 753 00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:46,740 which states the ground floor area of the residential accessory building till not exceed 50% of the ground floor area of the principal building unless a special use permit is granted. 754 00:54:46,740 --> 00:54:53,180 In this case, the ground floor area of the principal building is about 4,519 square feet. 755 00:54:53,720 --> 00:55:02,380 And the maximum is 2,259 and a half square feet, which is over by 1,340 square feet. 756 00:55:02,940 --> 00:55:08,460 We ask council to review the request, refer the petition to the July 21st planning board meeting, and 757 00:55:08,980 --> 00:55:11,340 authorize the planning director to set the date of the public hearing. 758 00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:12,520 Thank you. 759 00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:17,120 You make a motion to send it to you playing the board second motion. 760 00:55:24,340 --> 00:55:25,640 I just say 761 00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:28,440 Okay, 762 00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:36,060 thank you 763 00:55:36,060 --> 00:55:38,240 I can take you okay 764 00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:47,040 Christopher powers is requesting a special use permit for an architecturally integrated subdivision for property located on dawn drive 765 00:55:47,040 --> 00:55:55,720 This subdivision will consist of 24 single family units with a point 83 acre common area and storm water retention location. 766 00:55:56,220 --> 00:56:05,500 We ask council to review the request, revert the petition to the planning board for their July 21st meeting and authorize the planning director to set the date of the public hearing. 767 00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:06,640 Thank you. 768 00:56:07,460 --> 00:56:11,780 We have a motion to send it to the planning board. 769 00:56:11,980 --> 00:56:16,680 We have a motion in a second, always a favor, please say aye. 770 00:56:17,140 --> 00:56:17,380 All right. 771 00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:18,680 Yeah, I'll tell you that. 772 00:56:19,240 --> 00:56:20,060 Thank you. 773 00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:24,040 My last one is a petition from Megan Fowler. 774 00:56:24,240 --> 00:56:29,380 She's requesting to rezone approximately two points, excuse me, points 25 acres of property 775 00:56:29,380 --> 00:56:32,540 located at 1908 Elizabeth Town Road. 776 00:56:32,540 --> 00:56:43,360 This request is to rezone the rear of the property from R7, which is residential single-family duplex to be for business general commercial to operate a salon and wellness center. 777 00:56:43,540 --> 00:56:48,760 If approved, the zoning of this lot will be the same and be consistent as before. 778 00:56:49,380 --> 00:56:57,200 We ask that council review the request and refer this petition to the July 21 planning board meeting and authorize me to set the date of the public hearing. 779 00:56:57,920 --> 00:56:58,360 Thank you. 780 00:56:58,360 --> 00:56:58,760 Mr. Chair. 781 00:57:05,170 --> 00:57:07,570 The motion to approve the Senate to plan it. 782 00:57:07,570 --> 00:57:08,190 I second. 783 00:57:08,930 --> 00:57:09,370 Second. 784 00:57:09,750 --> 00:57:10,810 We have a motion in a second. 785 00:57:10,810 --> 00:57:12,270 All is your favor, please say aye. 786 00:57:12,530 --> 00:57:12,710 Aye. 787 00:57:13,210 --> 00:57:13,650 All opposed. 788 00:57:14,110 --> 00:57:15,050 The ayes have it. 789 00:57:15,110 --> 00:57:15,490 Thank you. 790 00:57:15,710 --> 00:57:16,150 Thank you. 791 00:57:16,570 --> 00:57:17,650 Thank you. 792 00:57:17,650 --> 00:57:20,010 Our next presenter is the City Attorney. 793 00:57:21,070 --> 00:57:21,590 Thank you Mayor. 794 00:57:22,290 --> 00:57:22,730 A test. 795 00:57:22,730 --> 00:57:29,510 This agenda item is a draft resolution and a letter from the City Manager to DOT, which the 796 00:57:29,510 --> 00:57:32,110 The partnership for children is asking Council to approve. 797 00:57:32,690 --> 00:57:36,490 This pertains to their smart start day on October 24th, 798 00:57:36,490 --> 00:57:38,450 and the second street to be closed, 799 00:57:38,830 --> 00:57:40,010 successfully hold the event. 800 00:57:40,550 --> 00:57:43,050 Council has approved this request several years running. 801 00:57:43,650 --> 00:57:45,370 It approved the clerk will put the resolution 802 00:57:45,370 --> 00:57:47,850 in an official form to be signed. 803 00:57:50,790 --> 00:57:51,330 I have a motion. 804 00:57:51,770 --> 00:57:51,830 Yes. 805 00:57:52,450 --> 00:57:52,750 I can. 806 00:57:52,790 --> 00:57:53,690 Some of the motion. 807 00:57:53,910 --> 00:57:55,650 I suspect that all those in favor, please say aye. 808 00:57:56,710 --> 00:57:57,070 All opposed. 809 00:57:58,010 --> 00:57:58,710 The ayes have it. 810 00:57:59,830 --> 00:58:02,630 All right, next presenter is Councilwoman Robertson. 811 00:58:03,210 --> 00:58:04,570 Thank you, Mayor House. 812 00:58:04,930 --> 00:58:10,230 I would like to disinate 1500 of CRL for a back to school and community today. 813 00:58:10,330 --> 00:58:15,870 On August the 15th, all of you have the invitation there, look forward to seeing you there for 814 00:58:15,870 --> 00:58:17,590 that inform of a motion. 815 00:58:17,830 --> 00:58:18,190 Thank you. 816 00:58:18,550 --> 00:58:19,690 We have a motion and a second. 817 00:58:19,690 --> 00:58:21,130 All is in favor, please say aye. 818 00:58:21,790 --> 00:58:22,290 All opposed. 819 00:58:23,070 --> 00:58:24,270 Yes, have it. 820 00:58:26,260 --> 00:58:29,320 And our next group is again, Councilman. 821 00:58:30,060 --> 00:58:31,240 Councilman Walman, Robbeth. 822 00:58:31,700 --> 00:58:32,060 I'm sorry. 823 00:58:32,380 --> 00:58:32,980 Thank you, Mayor. 824 00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:35,400 Councilman. 825 00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:41,160 I'm requesting 500 of CRF to Covenant Worship Center 826 00:58:41,160 --> 00:58:43,120 for a back-to-school community bash. 827 00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:47,480 August 1, 2026 from 10 to 2. 828 00:58:49,340 --> 00:58:50,920 Inviting you all for that, too. 829 00:58:51,020 --> 00:58:52,220 And I put that in form of a motion. 830 00:58:52,560 --> 00:58:52,820 Sorry, Richard. 831 00:58:53,380 --> 00:58:54,620 We have a motion and a second. 832 00:58:54,620 --> 00:58:56,100 at all those in favor, please say aye. 833 00:58:57,000 --> 00:58:57,500 All opposed. 834 00:58:58,300 --> 00:58:58,860 Yeah, that's it. 835 00:59:00,900 --> 00:59:02,400 That's a warm welcome. 836 00:59:02,860 --> 00:59:03,600 You may continue. 837 00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:05,320 Thank you, Mayor. 838 00:59:05,940 --> 00:59:08,180 Excited about getting these kids back in school. 839 00:59:08,620 --> 00:59:12,460 I'm requesting $500 or CRF to Victory Christian Center 840 00:59:13,120 --> 00:59:17,520 for vacation Bible school at 2007 Oakwood. 841 00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:20,640 And that was August 29, 10 AM to 2. 842 00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:23,200 I'm putting that in form of emotion also. 843 00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:30,060 second. I have a motion and a second. I'll lose a favor. Please say aye. I'll vote the other 844 00:59:30,060 --> 00:59:38,900 have it. Our next presenter is the woman hegley. I'm just asking for a reimbursement for 845 00:59:38,900 --> 00:59:44,540 purchasing more items for my fund day. I had a lot more than I expected. So I had to 846 00:59:44,540 --> 00:59:48,340 get about more of a hundred and forty seven dollars and eight three cents. I put that 847 00:59:48,340 --> 00:59:53,520 information. Second. We have a motion and a second. All those favor please say aye. All opposed. 848 00:59:56,160 --> 00:59:59,320 Our next presenter is Captain John Kenton. 849 01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:29,760 That's my turn. Unfortunately, because we're not meeting in August, and I do have several, but my first one is $1,000 for a community banquet to be held on August 8th. It's the honor of some personnel. One of the main persons is council member Chris Howard, and I would ask each council member for some assistance. 850 01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:40,360 so far over over 200 and some members of the community it's coming and so I 851 01:00:40,360 --> 01:00:49,280 have a motion and a second I'll lose in favor please say aye all opposed 852 01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:54,840 the eyes have it what's he's wanting to go around yes please if folks who 853 01:00:54,840 --> 01:00:55,500 I'm going to poll the council. 854 01:00:55,900 --> 01:00:57,240 You want to poll the council, John? 855 01:00:57,460 --> 01:00:58,000 Yes, sir, please. 856 01:00:58,600 --> 01:00:59,080 Precinct one. 857 01:01:01,100 --> 01:01:01,760 Precinct two. 858 01:01:01,980 --> 01:01:02,280 100. 859 01:01:02,720 --> 01:01:03,300 Precinct three. 860 01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:04,000 100. 861 01:01:04,340 --> 01:01:04,940 Precinct four. 862 01:01:05,640 --> 01:01:06,540 I'll do 250. 863 01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:08,480 Precinct five. 864 01:01:11,170 --> 01:01:11,830 My motion. 865 01:01:13,860 --> 01:01:15,240 You're going to put it in money in it? 866 01:01:15,600 --> 01:01:16,040 80,000. 867 01:01:16,040 --> 01:01:16,560 I'm going to do it now. 868 01:01:19,500 --> 01:01:21,120 I really put many in here. 869 01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:21,680 Oh, I see. 870 01:01:21,960 --> 01:01:22,560 It's my motion. 871 01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:23,320 I see. 872 01:01:23,660 --> 01:01:24,980 It's a costly thing to make a motion. 873 01:01:26,040 --> 01:01:26,560 Okay. 874 01:01:26,560 --> 01:01:26,760 Okay. 875 01:01:26,760 --> 01:01:28,340 So next person is sitting here. 876 01:01:28,860 --> 01:01:29,940 Precinct seven, 100. 877 01:01:30,640 --> 01:01:31,300 Precinct eight. 878 01:01:32,120 --> 01:01:32,640 100. 879 01:01:33,600 --> 01:01:35,000 How much does that matter, clerk? 880 01:01:37,600 --> 01:01:38,120 1850. 881 01:01:38,840 --> 01:01:39,360 All right. 882 01:01:40,640 --> 01:01:42,280 All those in favor, please allow. 883 01:01:42,620 --> 01:01:43,760 All opposed? 884 01:01:44,500 --> 01:01:45,280 Yeah, I have it. 885 01:01:46,100 --> 01:01:47,660 Just stand to your up again. 886 01:01:48,340 --> 01:01:49,400 Thank you, Mr. Mayor. 887 01:01:49,600 --> 01:01:54,960 This is Councilman Douglas, this precinct last year, I'm sorry. 888 01:01:54,960 --> 01:02:04,640 I'll counsel after rise, the first Sunday of August is to be, it's to be Dr. E.V. Turner 889 01:02:04,640 --> 01:02:14,040 Day in the city of Lumberton, and Councilman Douglas and I are both doing $250, but I'll let 890 01:02:14,040 --> 01:02:19,260 you take it served from here. If you want to answer anyone else, please put it in forward to 891 01:02:19,260 --> 01:02:19,840 explain it. 892 01:02:20,800 --> 01:02:29,640 Yes, there's having a homecoming like Councilman Kent has stated and it is something that I think highly of 893 01:02:30,520 --> 01:02:32,480 Dr. Turner and 894 01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:35,140 Would like to know if anybody else was willing to 895 01:02:35,840 --> 01:02:40,840 To put in a light for it to be pulled 896 01:02:42,480 --> 01:02:44,060 Prickson one hundred 897 01:02:44,060 --> 01:02:44,860 All right.ded 898 01:02:44,860 --> 01:02:45,060 prince sigh 899 01:02:45,060 --> 01:02:46,020 1 900 01:02:46,020 --> 01:02:47,320 hundred 333 901 01:02:47,320 --> 01:02:47,660 1 100 902 01:02:47,660 --> 01:02:50,080 335 903 01:02:50,080 --> 01:02:51,140 30 904 01:02:51,140 --> 01:02:54,160 negative typeokus 905 01:02:54,160 --> 01:02:54,360 at 906 01:02:54,360 --> 01:02:55,460 office 907 01:03:12,120 --> 01:03:13,860 office 908 01:03:13,860 --> 01:03:14,860 office 909 01:03:14,860 --> 01:03:15,820 office 910 01:03:15,820 --> 01:03:16,400 office 911 01:03:16,680 --> 01:03:18,080 office 912 01:03:18,080 --> 01:03:27,520 each gets to go to leaf lodge 124 for community events and that's my motion 913 01:03:27,520 --> 01:03:32,580 thank you motion and a second all those favor please say aye 914 01:03:41,760 --> 01:03:45,460 and our next presenter is 915 01:03:45,460 --> 01:04:08,630 I'm Councilman Douglass John Douglass I'm a motion 916 01:04:12,820 --> 01:04:15,040 and a second all those in favor. Please say aye 917 01:04:15,040 --> 01:04:18,760 All right 918 01:04:21,480 --> 01:04:24,180 and next presenter is Councilman Douglass is 919 01:04:24,180 --> 01:04:24,600 Is that correct? 920 01:04:25,380 --> 01:04:27,540 I think it may be me again, what's your question? 921 01:04:28,700 --> 01:04:29,600 Yes, shall. 922 01:04:29,840 --> 01:04:30,260 Okay, yeah. 923 01:04:30,840 --> 01:04:35,860 A 750, a C-R-A-F, for the most worshipable. 924 01:04:35,880 --> 01:04:38,200 Put the Prince all, put the Grand Lodge, 925 01:04:38,720 --> 01:04:41,480 North Carolina, whatever, for a Grandman. 926 01:04:41,900 --> 01:04:44,640 And I don't need any insistence on this one as well. 927 01:04:45,340 --> 01:04:46,140 That's my motion. 928 01:04:46,980 --> 01:04:47,480 That's certainly. 929 01:04:47,800 --> 01:04:48,860 We have a motion and a second. 930 01:04:48,860 --> 01:04:50,340 All those in favor, please say aye. 931 01:04:50,600 --> 01:04:51,600 All opposed. 932 01:04:51,600 --> 01:04:56,600 those guys have it our next presenter is Eric Chavis. 933 01:04:57,140 --> 01:05:01,120 No, because I get you that's my dog. 934 01:05:01,320 --> 01:05:02,440 Are me? 935 01:05:02,440 --> 01:05:04,340 Okay, go ahead. 936 01:05:04,980 --> 01:05:09,260 Oh yes, I wanted to take a $300 of my CRF 937 01:05:09,260 --> 01:05:12,560 on that school, but I wanted to increase it to 500. 938 01:05:16,210 --> 01:05:17,510 And I made that my motion. 939 01:05:17,790 --> 01:05:20,370 So I can take a motion and second all those in favor, 940 01:05:20,530 --> 01:05:21,090 please say aye. 941 01:05:21,350 --> 01:05:21,750 I don't know. 942 01:05:21,850 --> 01:05:22,290 All opposed. 943 01:05:28,170 --> 01:05:34,870 Thank you, Mayor. Council, I'd like to request $300 for CFR for the Lumberton Youth 944 01:05:34,870 --> 01:05:41,450 Baseball Association, who had one of the State Championship. They would be going to play. 945 01:05:42,370 --> 01:05:48,330 I don't see the place where they're going to, but they're looking for assistance. I see 946 01:05:48,330 --> 01:05:52,210 where Councilman, they're going to Louisiana. Thank you. Councilman Thomas. 947 01:05:52,870 --> 01:06:00,870 I see where councilor Ryzen has requested 200 as well and I'd like to pull the councilor to see if anyone else would like to donate to this cause as well. 948 01:06:07,740 --> 01:06:11,480 We discussed some things about some things. 949 01:06:12,500 --> 01:06:20,100 How are we going to try to follow those things so we just want to just wing it and we can do it. 950 01:06:20,100 --> 01:06:27,060 Thank you in your discussion you talk about having a war station to talk about CRF. Yes, you've ever had that meeting here 951 01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:39,300 Precinct to a donate 200. 952 01:06:42,850 --> 01:06:45,970 I've already got mine in there 200 and there mines are already in there 953 01:06:45,970 --> 01:06:57,810 three hundred two hundred four to two hundred six two a hundred seven I did three hundred eight two 954 01:07:04,540 --> 01:07:09,460 how much does that matter for me 15 955 01:07:33,160 --> 01:07:38,600 Mayor Dewey, did we miss, or may I wrong permission to apply for the Lumberton Community 956 01:07:38,600 --> 01:07:41,320 Safety and Behavioral Health Research Grant? 957 01:07:42,360 --> 01:07:42,880 Did we miss that? 958 01:07:43,020 --> 01:07:45,840 It was pulled. 959 01:07:45,980 --> 01:07:46,500 It was pulled. 960 01:07:46,660 --> 01:07:47,580 It wasn't pulled from our Pagan. 961 01:07:47,580 --> 01:07:50,240 I apologize for what I pulled from man make 962 01:07:52,890 --> 01:07:54,730 make a motion going to closed session 963 01:08:00,500 --> 01:08:02,680 You thought with the attorney 964 01:08:29,060 --> 01:08:30,620 I know. I got the condition. 965 01:08:31,520 --> 01:08:33,360 I got the condition.