[0:13] Being 7 minutes late, uh, Uh, [0:17] Being 7 minutes late, uh, Uh, [0:17] Being 7 minutes late, uh, Uh, Still figuring out. My Zoom. [0:19] Being 7 minutes late, uh, Uh, Still figuring out. My Zoom. [0:20] Being 7 minutes late, uh, Uh, Still figuring out. My Zoom. Know why it's so complicated. [0:21] Still figuring out. My Zoom. Know why it's so complicated. [0:21] Still figuring out. My Zoom. Know why it's so complicated. I've been using it for 2 years. [0:24] Know why it's so complicated. I've been using it for 2 years. [0:25] Know why it's so complicated. I've been using it for 2 years. Uh, so, uh, we're at the Belata [0:26] I've been using it for 2 years. Uh, so, uh, we're at the Belata [0:26] I've been using it for 2 years. Uh, so, uh, we're at the Belata meeting room at Town Hall. Uh, [0:28] Uh, so, uh, we're at the Belata meeting room at Town Hall. Uh, [0:28] Uh, so, uh, we're at the Belata meeting room at Town Hall. 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If we can open with the [3:56] permitted by the Open Meeting Law. If we can open with the Pledge of Allegiance, please. I [4:01] Law. If we can open with the Pledge of Allegiance, please. I [4:01] Law. If we can open with the Pledge of Allegiance, please. I pledge allegiance to the flag, [4:03] Pledge of Allegiance, please. I pledge allegiance to the flag, [4:03] Pledge of Allegiance, please. I pledge allegiance to the flag, the United States of America [4:04] pledge allegiance to the flag, the United States of America [4:05] pledge allegiance to the flag, the United States of America and to the republic for which [4:07] the United States of America and to the republic for which [4:07] the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God [4:09] and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God [4:09] and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God indivisible, with liberty and [4:11] it stands, one nation under God indivisible, with liberty and [4:12] it stands, one nation under God indivisible, with liberty and justice Thank you. Amen. For [4:20] indivisible, with liberty and justice Thank you. Amen. For [4:20] indivisible, with liberty and justice Thank you. Amen. For that Public comment, uh, do we [4:24] justice Thank you. Amen. For that Public comment, uh, do we [4:24] justice Thank you. Amen. For that Public comment, uh, do we have any, uh, public comment. I [4:27] that Public comment, uh, do we have any, uh, public comment. I [4:27] that Public comment, uh, do we have any, uh, public comment. I don't see anybody. Uh, I don't [4:32] have any, uh, public comment. I don't see anybody. Uh, I don't [4:32] have any, uh, public comment. I don't see anybody. Uh, I don't see anybody. In the room Uh, [4:37] don't see anybody. Uh, I don't see anybody. In the room Uh, [4:37] don't see anybody. Uh, I don't see anybody. In the room Uh, For public comment. Oop. Sorry. [4:41] see anybody. In the room Uh, For public comment. Oop. Sorry. [4:41] see anybody. In the room Uh, For public comment. Oop. Sorry. I don't see anybody in the room [4:42] For public comment. Oop. Sorry. I don't see anybody in the room [4:42] For public comment. Oop. Sorry. I don't see anybody in the room for public comment, and there's [4:45] I don't see anybody in the room for public comment, and there's [4:45] I don't see anybody in the room for public comment, and there's nobody on Zoom. Do I have any [4:48] for public comment, and there's nobody on Zoom. Do I have any [4:48] for public comment, and there's nobody on Zoom. Do I have any public comment from the [4:49] nobody on Zoom. Do I have any public comment from the [4:49] nobody on Zoom. Do I have any public comment from the commission? I have no public [4:52] public comment from the commission? I have no public [4:52] public comment from the commission? I have no public comment, Mr. Chair. Uh, I only [4:54] commission? I have no public comment, Mr. Chair. Uh, I only [4:54] commission? I have no public comment, Mr. Chair. Uh, I only have one comment, uh, September [4:56] comment, Mr. Chair. Uh, I only have one comment, uh, September [4:56] comment, Mr. Chair. Uh, I only have one comment, uh, September 11th is coming up. All flags [4:58] have one comment, uh, September 11th is coming up. All flags [4:58] have one comment, uh, September 11th is coming up. All flags should be at half-staff if you [4:59] 11th is coming up. All flags should be at half-staff if you [4:59] 11th is coming up. All flags should be at half-staff if you have a flagpole. Uh, Federal [5:03] should be at half-staff if you have a flagpole. Uh, Federal [5:03] should be at half-staff if you have a flagpole. Uh, Federal government. Just said that [5:05] have a flagpole. Uh, Federal government. Just said that [5:05] have a flagpole. Uh, Federal government. Just said that hopefully the town, uh, like [5:07] government. Just said that hopefully the town, uh, like [5:07] government. Just said that hopefully the town, uh, like they usually do, they follow [5:08] hopefully the town, uh, like they usually do, they follow [5:08] hopefully the town, uh, like they usually do, they follow that. They have the app. There [5:10] they usually do, they follow that. They have the app. There [5:10] they usually do, they follow that. They have the app. There there's an app for that now, I [5:11] that. They have the app. There there's an app for that now, I [5:11] that. They have the app. There there's an app for that now, I think. You can look to see when [5:13] there's an app for that now, I think. You can look to see when [5:13] there's an app for that now, I think. You can look to see when yeah, so if somebody passes or [5:15] think. You can look to see when yeah, so if somebody passes or [5:15] think. You can look to see when yeah, so if somebody passes or something. Uh, I just wanna, uh [5:18] yeah, so if somebody passes or something. Uh, I just wanna, uh [5:18] yeah, so if somebody passes or something. Uh, I just wanna, uh tonight just do a quick moment [5:20] something. Uh, I just wanna, uh tonight just do a quick moment [5:20] something. Uh, I just wanna, uh tonight just do a quick moment of silence for all the families [5:23] tonight just do a quick moment of silence for all the families [5:23] tonight just do a quick moment of silence for all the families uh, and for those that we lost [5:26] of silence for all the families uh, and for those that we lost [5:26] of silence for all the families uh, and for those that we lost on, uh, 9/11, as well as those [5:28] uh, and for those that we lost on, uh, 9/11, as well as those [5:28] uh, and for those that we lost on, uh, 9/11, as well as those over the years who've been [5:30] on, uh, 9/11, as well as those over the years who've been [5:30] on, uh, 9/11, as well as those over the years who've been affected by some sort of health [5:33] over the years who've been affected by some sort of health [5:33] over the years who've been affected by some sort of health problem and whatnot as a result [5:34] affected by some sort of health problem and whatnot as a result [5:34] affected by some sort of health problem and whatnot as a result of that disaster. Um, If we can [5:37] problem and whatnot as a result of that disaster. Um, If we can [5:37] problem and whatnot as a result of that disaster. Um, If we can just have a, a moment of [5:39] of that disaster. Um, If we can just have a, a moment of [5:39] of that disaster. Um, If we can just have a, a moment of silence, um, because there are [5:41] just have a, a moment of silence, um, because there are [5:42] just have a, a moment of silence, um, because there are some, uh, people locally in [5:44] silence, um, because there are some, uh, people locally in [5:44] silence, um, because there are some, uh, people locally in town who have been personally [5:44] some, uh, people locally in town who have been personally [5:44] some, uh, people locally in town who have been personally affected by that, um, and in [5:48] town who have been personally affected by that, um, and in [5:48] town who have been personally affected by that, um, and in other towns close by as well. [5:50] affected by that, um, and in other towns close by as well. [5:50] affected by that, um, and in other towns close by as well. Uh, but every family that lost [5:53] other towns close by as well. Uh, but every family that lost [5:53] other towns close by as well. Uh, but every family that lost somebody, uh, didn't deserve [5:55] Uh, but every family that lost somebody, uh, didn't deserve [5:55] Uh, but every family that lost somebody, uh, didn't deserve that, and May God save the [5:59] somebody, uh, didn't deserve that, and May God save the [6:00] somebody, uh, didn't deserve that, and May God save the president that strength. has [6:02] that, and May God save the president that strength. has [6:02] that, and May God save the president that strength. has determined our resilience to [6:04] president that strength. has determined our resilience to [6:04] president that strength. has determined our resilience to defend against that. Crime For [6:07] determined our resilience to defend against that. Crime For [6:07] determined our resilience to defend against that. Crime For years. Just a moment of silence [6:10] defend against that. Crime For years. Just a moment of silence [6:10] defend against that. Crime For years. Just a moment of silence please. OK. Thank you everyone. [6:37] years. Just a moment of silence please. OK. Thank you everyone. [6:37] years. Just a moment of silence please. OK. Thank you everyone. Um, Hm. Alright, so we don't [6:42] please. OK. Thank you everyone. Um, Hm. Alright, so we don't [6:42] please. OK. Thank you everyone. Um, Hm. Alright, so we don't have any trust representatives [6:44] Um, Hm. Alright, so we don't have any trust representatives [6:45] Um, Hm. Alright, so we don't have any trust representatives here. Um, the last one we had [6:45] have any trust representatives here. Um, the last one we had [6:45] have any trust representatives here. Um, the last one we had was, uh, Ernie last month, um. [6:49] here. Um, the last one we had was, uh, Ernie last month, um. [6:49] here. Um, the last one we had was, uh, Ernie last month, um. Uh, he happens to be. One of [6:54] was, uh, Ernie last month, um. Uh, he happens to be. One of [6:54] was, uh, Ernie last month, um. Uh, he happens to be. One of two For the post 283 fund. Um, [7:00] Uh, he happens to be. One of two For the post 283 fund. Um, [7:00] Uh, he happens to be. One of two For the post 283 fund. Um, Our meetings are held every 2nd [7:01] two For the post 283 fund. Um, Our meetings are held every 2nd [7:01] two For the post 283 fund. Um, Our meetings are held every 2nd and 4th Thursday, uh, as far as [7:03] Our meetings are held every 2nd and 4th Thursday, uh, as far as [7:03] Our meetings are held every 2nd and 4th Thursday, uh, as far as treasury and finance director [7:05] and 4th Thursday, uh, as far as treasury and finance director [7:05] and 4th Thursday, uh, as far as treasury and finance director reports, uh, every year the [7:06] treasury and finance director reports, uh, every year the [7:07] treasury and finance director reports, uh, every year the Trust fund commission has to [7:07] reports, uh, every year the Trust fund commission has to [7:07] reports, uh, every year the Trust fund commission has to give a report just so you know, [7:11] Trust fund commission has to give a report just so you know, [7:11] Trust fund commission has to give a report just so you know, if you've never been to this, [7:13] give a report just so you know, if you've never been to this, [7:13] give a report just so you know, if you've never been to this, uh, meeting before, attended it [7:14] if you've never been to this, uh, meeting before, attended it [7:14] if you've never been to this, uh, meeting before, attended it We have to give a report to [7:16] uh, meeting before, attended it We have to give a report to [7:16] uh, meeting before, attended it We have to give a report to town hall every year, uh, which [7:18] We have to give a report to town hall every year, uh, which [7:18] We have to give a report to town hall every year, uh, which town meeting rather. Yes, thank [7:20] town hall every year, uh, which town meeting rather. Yes, thank [7:20] town hall every year, uh, which town meeting rather. Yes, thank you for the correction. Um, we [7:23] town meeting rather. Yes, thank you for the correction. Um, we [7:23] town meeting rather. Yes, thank you for the correction. Um, we have to, uh, give a report. Uh, [7:25] you for the correction. Um, we have to, uh, give a report. Uh, [7:25] you for the correction. Um, we have to, uh, give a report. Uh, of the work that we've done and [7:27] have to, uh, give a report. Uh, of the work that we've done and [7:27] have to, uh, give a report. Uh, of the work that we've done and of the money. Uh, that we have [7:31] of the work that we've done and of the money. Uh, that we have [7:31] of the work that we've done and of the money. Uh, that we have been given stewardship over. So [7:36] of the money. Uh, that we have been given stewardship over. So [7:36] of the money. Uh, that we have been given stewardship over. So Just so everybody knows. All [7:38] been given stewardship over. So Just so everybody knows. All [7:38] been given stewardship over. So Just so everybody knows. All right. Um, just to let [7:41] Just so everybody knows. All right. Um, just to let [7:41] Just so everybody knows. All right. Um, just to let everybody know, uh, The money [7:43] right. Um, just to let everybody know, uh, The money [7:43] right. Um, just to let everybody know, uh, The money in the pooled fund. Uh, which [7:46] everybody know, uh, The money in the pooled fund. Uh, which [7:46] everybody know, uh, The money in the pooled fund. Uh, which Mylene As the nearest and [7:49] in the pooled fund. Uh, which Mylene As the nearest and [7:49] in the pooled fund. Uh, which Mylene As the nearest and dearest Uh, is doing well. So [7:55] Mylene As the nearest and dearest Uh, is doing well. So [7:55] Mylene As the nearest and dearest Uh, is doing well. So it is not. Sliding. It hasn't [7:59] dearest Uh, is doing well. So it is not. Sliding. It hasn't [7:59] dearest Uh, is doing well. So it is not. Sliding. It hasn't been sliding. Be Overperforming [8:03] it is not. Sliding. It hasn't been sliding. Be Overperforming [8:03] it is not. Sliding. It hasn't been sliding. Be Overperforming the market? Well, For a couple [8:07] been sliding. Be Overperforming the market? Well, For a couple [8:07] been sliding. Be Overperforming the market? Well, For a couple of years, yeah. And actually a [8:10] the market? Well, For a couple of years, yeah. And actually a [8:10] the market? Well, For a couple of years, yeah. And actually a couple of years before we voted [8:11] of years, yeah. And actually a couple of years before we voted [8:11] of years, yeah. And actually a couple of years before we voted well, a couple of years before [8:12] couple of years before we voted well, a couple of years before [8:12] couple of years before we voted well, a couple of years before we even voted to be, uh, have [8:14] well, a couple of years before we even voted to be, uh, have [8:14] well, a couple of years before we even voted to be, uh, have it allowed, you know, the, uh, [8:17] we even voted to be, uh, have it allowed, you know, the, uh, [8:17] we even voted to be, uh, have it allowed, you know, the, uh, the additional funding, uh, [8:19] it allowed, you know, the, uh, the additional funding, uh, [8:19] it allowed, you know, the, uh, the additional funding, uh, that Bartholomew brought to us. [8:19] the additional funding, uh, that Bartholomew brought to us. [8:19] the additional funding, uh, that Bartholomew brought to us. Um, we were 2 years late on [8:21] that Bartholomew brought to us. Um, we were 2 years late on [8:21] that Bartholomew brought to us. Um, we were 2 years late on that and could have been, you [8:23] Um, we were 2 years late on that and could have been, you [8:23] Um, we were 2 years late on that and could have been, you know, making 16% to 18%. [8:29] that and could have been, you know, making 16% to 18%. [8:29] that and could have been, you know, making 16% to 18%. Interest for 2 years on all [8:30] know, making 16% to 18%. Interest for 2 years on all [8:30] know, making 16% to 18%. Interest for 2 years on all monies held in the town. But [8:33] Interest for 2 years on all monies held in the town. But [8:33] Interest for 2 years on all monies held in the town. But nobody ever put it forward, um, [8:36] monies held in the town. But nobody ever put it forward, um, [8:36] monies held in the town. But nobody ever put it forward, um, and this was in the interim [8:37] nobody ever put it forward, um, and this was in the interim [8:37] nobody ever put it forward, um, and this was in the interim time between just before [8:39] and this was in the interim time between just before [8:39] and this was in the interim time between just before Heather was leaving as town [8:43] time between just before Heather was leaving as town [8:43] time between just before Heather was leaving as town manager, and, um, Uh, Jen came [8:46] Heather was leaving as town manager, and, um, Uh, Jen came [8:46] Heather was leaving as town manager, and, um, Uh, Jen came in in the transition period, [8:48] manager, and, um, Uh, Jen came in in the transition period, [8:48] manager, and, um, Uh, Jen came in in the transition period, those never got placed on the [8:50] in in the transition period, those never got placed on the [8:50] in in the transition period, those never got placed on the warrant. You know, until the [8:53] those never got placed on the warrant. You know, until the [8:53] those never got placed on the warrant. You know, until the very last minute, you know, uh. [8:55] warrant. You know, until the very last minute, you know, uh. [8:55] warrant. You know, until the very last minute, you know, uh. It would have been nice. So [8:57] very last minute, you know, uh. It would have been nice. So [8:57] very last minute, you know, uh. It would have been nice. So I've always said, you know, uh, [9:01] It would have been nice. So I've always said, you know, uh, [9:01] It would have been nice. So I've always said, you know, uh, that investment in our town is [9:02] I've always said, you know, uh, that investment in our town is [9:02] I've always said, you know, uh, that investment in our town is what is more important than [9:06] that investment in our town is what is more important than [9:06] that investment in our town is what is more important than bringing investors who are here [9:07] what is more important than bringing investors who are here [9:07] what is more important than bringing investors who are here for themselves like I talked [9:09] bringing investors who are here for themselves like I talked [9:09] bringing investors who are here for themselves like I talked the other week about developers [9:11] for themselves like I talked the other week about developers [9:11] for themselves like I talked the other week about developers Those are people investing in [9:13] the other week about developers Those are people investing in [9:13] the other week about developers Those are people investing in the town, but investing for [9:13] Those are people investing in the town, but investing for [9:14] Those are people investing in the town, but investing for their benefit. Not investing in [9:16] the town, but investing for their benefit. Not investing in [9:16] the town, but investing for their benefit. Not investing in the town. Do you know what I'm [9:18] their benefit. Not investing in the town. Do you know what I'm [9:18] their benefit. Not investing in the town. Do you know what I'm saying? So, uh, does it help [9:20] the town. Do you know what I'm saying? So, uh, does it help [9:20] the town. Do you know what I'm saying? So, uh, does it help the town? Sure. Does it bring [9:22] saying? So, uh, does it help the town? Sure. Does it bring [9:22] saying? So, uh, does it help the town? Sure. Does it bring in another taxpayer? Sure, but [9:24] the town? Sure. Does it bring in another taxpayer? Sure, but [9:25] the town? Sure. Does it bring in another taxpayer? Sure, but when you bring in another [9:25] in another taxpayer? Sure, but when you bring in another [9:25] in another taxpayer? Sure, but when you bring in another taxpayer, you bring another car [9:26] when you bring in another taxpayer, you bring another car [9:26] when you bring in another taxpayer, you bring another car on the road, another couple of [9:28] taxpayer, you bring another car on the road, another couple of [9:28] taxpayer, you bring another car on the road, another couple of kids in the school, and more [9:29] on the road, another couple of kids in the school, and more [9:29] on the road, another couple of kids in the school, and more costs and so forth. And so, you [9:31] kids in the school, and more costs and so forth. And so, you [9:31] kids in the school, and more costs and so forth. And so, you know, policies that, you know, [9:34] costs and so forth. And so, you know, policies that, you know, [9:34] costs and so forth. And so, you know, policies that, you know, have to, you have to show, you [9:35] know, policies that, you know, have to, you have to show, you [9:35] know, policies that, you know, have to, you have to show, you know, uh, if this many houses [9:36] have to, you have to show, you know, uh, if this many houses [9:36] have to, you have to show, you know, uh, if this many houses are being built, and this is [9:38] know, uh, if this many houses are being built, and this is [9:38] know, uh, if this many houses are being built, and this is the expectation of how many [9:38] are being built, and this is the expectation of how many [9:38] are being built, and this is the expectation of how many children per house, how many [9:40] the expectation of how many children per house, how many [9:40] the expectation of how many children per house, how many more people there are, you have [9:42] children per house, how many more people there are, you have [9:42] children per house, how many more people there are, you have to kind of look in policy, [9:44] more people there are, you have to kind of look in policy, [9:44] more people there are, you have to kind of look in policy, financial policy to say how [9:45] to kind of look in policy, financial policy to say how [9:45] to kind of look in policy, financial policy to say how much is that going to cost more [9:49] financial policy to say how much is that going to cost more [9:49] financial policy to say how much is that going to cost more In uh MO Services, OK. Uh, are [9:51] much is that going to cost more In uh MO Services, OK. Uh, are [9:51] much is that going to cost more In uh MO Services, OK. Uh, are we gonna need more police [9:53] In uh MO Services, OK. Uh, are we gonna need more police [9:53] In uh MO Services, OK. Uh, are we gonna need more police officers because the number of [9:55] we gonna need more police officers because the number of [9:55] we gonna need more police officers because the number of population has increased, which [9:56] officers because the number of population has increased, which [9:56] officers because the number of population has increased, which means another car, which we [9:58] population has increased, which means another car, which we [9:58] population has increased, which means another car, which we didn't get. OK, um, uh, same [10:01] means another car, which we didn't get. OK, um, uh, same [10:01] means another car, which we didn't get. OK, um, uh, same thing with the fire department [10:03] didn't get. OK, um, uh, same thing with the fire department [10:03] didn't get. OK, um, uh, same thing with the fire department and the chefs, you know, same [10:05] thing with the fire department and the chefs, you know, same [10:05] thing with the fire department and the chefs, you know, same thing with the school equipment [10:05] and the chefs, you know, same thing with the school equipment [10:05] and the chefs, you know, same thing with the school equipment that's needed. Oh, absolutely. [10:07] thing with the school equipment that's needed. Oh, absolutely. [10:07] thing with the school equipment that's needed. Oh, absolutely. Like when we did, we built, [10:09] that's needed. Oh, absolutely. Like when we did, we built, [10:09] that's needed. Oh, absolutely. Like when we did, we built, when Walmart was constructed, [10:11] Like when we did, we built, when Walmart was constructed, [10:11] Like when we did, we built, when Walmart was constructed, we needed to buy $800,000 fire [10:13] when Walmart was constructed, we needed to buy $800,000 fire [10:13] when Walmart was constructed, we needed to buy $800,000 fire truck now because the equipment [10:16] we needed to buy $800,000 fire truck now because the equipment [10:16] we needed to buy $800,000 fire truck now because the equipment couldn't reach. I couldn't [10:16] truck now because the equipment couldn't reach. I couldn't [10:16] truck now because the equipment couldn't reach. I couldn't reach the roof. The roof of [10:18] couldn't reach. I couldn't reach the roof. The roof of [10:18] couldn't reach. I couldn't reach the roof. The roof of people, you know what I mean, [10:19] reach the roof. The roof of people, you know what I mean, [10:19] reach the roof. The roof of people, you know what I mean, so, so yeah, we get good tax, [10:20] people, you know what I mean, so, so yeah, we get good tax, [10:20] people, you know what I mean, so, so yeah, we get good tax, yeah, but I think, I think [10:22] so, so yeah, we get good tax, yeah, but I think, I think [10:22] so, so yeah, we get good tax, yeah, but I think, I think Walmart offset the cost on that [10:23] yeah, but I think, I think Walmart offset the cost on that [10:23] yeah, but I think, I think Walmart offset the cost on that a little though. I think they [10:25] Walmart offset the cost on that a little though. I think they [10:25] Walmart offset the cost on that a little though. I think they paid for some of that [10:25] a little though. I think they paid for some of that [10:25] a little though. I think they paid for some of that infrastructure stuff. just to [10:27] paid for some of that infrastructure stuff. just to [10:27] paid for some of that infrastructure stuff. just to be able to build it. I knew [10:27] infrastructure stuff. just to be able to build it. I knew [10:28] infrastructure stuff. just to be able to build it. I knew there was a big fight over that [10:29] be able to build it. I knew there was a big fight over that [10:29] be able to build it. I knew there was a big fight over that I wasn't here, but I remember [10:30] there was a big fight over that I wasn't here, but I remember [10:30] there was a big fight over that I wasn't here, but I remember hearing there was a big huge, [10:32] I wasn't here, but I remember hearing there was a big huge, [10:32] I wasn't here, but I remember hearing there was a big huge, you know, brouhaha over that, [10:34] hearing there was a big huge, you know, brouhaha over that, [10:34] hearing there was a big huge, you know, brouhaha over that, but Walmart said, look, we'll [10:36] you know, brouhaha over that, but Walmart said, look, we'll [10:36] you know, brouhaha over that, but Walmart said, look, we'll do this to the road, we'll [10:37] but Walmart said, look, we'll do this to the road, we'll [10:37] but Walmart said, look, we'll do this to the road, we'll widen this, we'll do this, [10:38] do this to the road, we'll widen this, we'll do this, [10:38] do this to the road, we'll widen this, we'll do this, we'll do that, we'll pay money [10:41] widen this, we'll do this, we'll do that, we'll pay money [10:41] widen this, we'll do this, we'll do that, we'll pay money to Fitchburg and the [10:43] we'll do that, we'll pay money to Fitchburg and the [10:43] we'll do that, we'll pay money to Fitchburg and the surrounding towns, you know, [10:43] to Fitchburg and the surrounding towns, you know, [10:43] to Fitchburg and the surrounding towns, you know, for public safety and you know [10:45] surrounding towns, you know, for public safety and you know [10:45] surrounding towns, you know, for public safety and you know what I mean. As a buffer to be [10:47] for public safety and you know what I mean. As a buffer to be [10:47] for public safety and you know what I mean. As a buffer to be able to get it up to standards [10:48] what I mean. As a buffer to be able to get it up to standards [10:48] what I mean. As a buffer to be able to get it up to standards and stuff, so the Walmart has a [10:51] able to get it up to standards and stuff, so the Walmart has a [10:52] able to get it up to standards and stuff, so the Walmart has a tendency to do that. They don't [10:52] and stuff, so the Walmart has a tendency to do that. They don't [10:52] and stuff, so the Walmart has a tendency to do that. They don't they, they don't invest in [10:54] tendency to do that. They don't they, they don't invest in [10:54] tendency to do that. They don't they, they don't invest in everything in the town, but [10:55] they, they don't invest in everything in the town, but [10:55] they, they don't invest in everything in the town, but there are certain things they [10:56] everything in the town, but there are certain things they [10:57] everything in the town, but there are certain things they do invest in, which is [10:58] there are certain things they do invest in, which is [10:58] there are certain things they do invest in, which is replacing sewer lines because [11:00] do invest in, which is replacing sewer lines because [11:00] do invest in, which is replacing sewer lines because they're running new sewer lines [11:01] replacing sewer lines because they're running new sewer lines [11:01] replacing sewer lines because they're running new sewer lines you know, and the sewer lines [11:03] they're running new sewer lines you know, and the sewer lines [11:03] they're running new sewer lines you know, and the sewer lines are running into going to be [11:04] you know, and the sewer lines are running into going to be [11:04] you know, and the sewer lines are running into going to be able to handle their sewer [11:05] are running into going to be able to handle their sewer [11:05] are running into going to be able to handle their sewer lines till they increase the [11:07] able to handle their sewer lines till they increase the [11:07] able to handle their sewer lines till they increase the size of the sewer line [11:08] lines till they increase the size of the sewer line [11:08] lines till they increase the size of the sewer line surrounding the property and [11:10] size of the sewer line surrounding the property and [11:10] size of the sewer line surrounding the property and then offset that with [11:12] surrounding the property and then offset that with [11:12] surrounding the property and then offset that with additional money for, you know, [11:14] then offset that with additional money for, you know, [11:14] then offset that with additional money for, you know, uh, further work in the sewer [11:15] additional money for, you know, uh, further work in the sewer [11:15] additional money for, you know, uh, further work in the sewer lines and stuff like that, and [11:16] uh, further work in the sewer lines and stuff like that, and [11:16] uh, further work in the sewer lines and stuff like that, and I I think, uh, and I say that [11:19] lines and stuff like that, and I I think, uh, and I say that [11:19] lines and stuff like that, and I I think, uh, and I say that only because I think at that [11:19] I I think, uh, and I say that only because I think at that [11:20] I I think, uh, and I say that only because I think at that time was when Walmart got built [11:23] only because I think at that time was when Walmart got built [11:23] only because I think at that time was when Walmart got built is when you created the sewer [11:25] time was when Walmart got built is when you created the sewer [11:25] time was when Walmart got built is when you created the sewer district, wasn't it, at the [11:26] is when you created the sewer district, wasn't it, at the [11:26] is when you created the sewer district, wasn't it, at the same time? I think it was at [11:28] district, wasn't it, at the same time? I think it was at [11:28] district, wasn't it, at the same time? I think it was at the same time, but that's why, [11:31] same time? I think it was at the same time, but that's why, [11:31] same time? I think it was at the same time, but that's why, but that's usually what large [11:32] the same time, but that's why, but that's usually what large [11:32] the same time, but that's why, but that's usually what large companies like that do, you [11:33] but that's usually what large companies like that do, you [11:33] but that's usually what large companies like that do, you know, uh, I know I've built a [11:35] companies like that do, you know, uh, I know I've built a [11:35] companies like that do, you know, uh, I know I've built a number of malls over the years, [11:37] know, uh, I know I've built a number of malls over the years, [11:37] know, uh, I know I've built a number of malls over the years, which malls are a dying breed [11:39] number of malls over the years, which malls are a dying breed [11:39] number of malls over the years, which malls are a dying breed now because we have online [11:40] which malls are a dying breed now because we have online [11:40] which malls are a dying breed now because we have online buying, but when we built the [11:42] now because we have online buying, but when we built the [11:42] now because we have online buying, but when we built the malls, I remember the fights in [11:44] buying, but when we built the malls, I remember the fights in [11:44] buying, but when we built the malls, I remember the fights in the communities where the malls [11:46] malls, I remember the fights in the communities where the malls [11:46] malls, I remember the fights in the communities where the malls were being a Contractor, you [11:47] the communities where the malls were being a Contractor, you [11:47] the communities where the malls were being a Contractor, you know, they were concerned with [11:50] were being a Contractor, you know, they were concerned with [11:50] were being a Contractor, you know, they were concerned with utility upgrades and is that [11:51] know, they were concerned with utility upgrades and is that [11:51] know, they were concerned with utility upgrades and is that going to overload their sewer? [11:53] utility upgrades and is that going to overload their sewer? [11:53] utility upgrades and is that going to overload their sewer? Is that going to overload their [11:55] going to overload their sewer? Is that going to overload their [11:55] going to overload their sewer? Is that going to overload their water pressure? Is that gonna, [11:55] Is that going to overload their water pressure? Is that gonna, [11:55] Is that going to overload their water pressure? Is that gonna, you know, all sorts of stuff, [11:57] water pressure? Is that gonna, you know, all sorts of stuff, [11:57] water pressure? Is that gonna, you know, all sorts of stuff, so, you know, large companies [11:59] you know, all sorts of stuff, so, you know, large companies [11:59] you know, all sorts of stuff, so, you know, large companies like that, they get that, and I [12:00] so, you know, large companies like that, they get that, and I [12:00] so, you know, large companies like that, they get that, and I think they include that as part [12:02] like that, they get that, and I think they include that as part [12:02] like that, they get that, and I think they include that as part of it. But in this instance, [12:04] think they include that as part of it. But in this instance, [12:04] think they include that as part of it. But in this instance, you don't have that, you know. [12:07] of it. But in this instance, you don't have that, you know. [12:07] of it. But in this instance, you don't have that, you know. So, uh, So that can be a, that [12:09] you don't have that, you know. So, uh, So that can be a, that [12:09] you don't have that, you know. So, uh, So that can be a, that can be, that can be an issue. [12:11] So, uh, So that can be a, that can be, that can be an issue. [12:11] So, uh, So that can be a, that can be, that can be an issue. But like I said, You know, I've [12:15] can be, that can be an issue. But like I said, You know, I've [12:15] can be, that can be an issue. But like I said, You know, I've 2 years in a row, I said, [12:17] But like I said, You know, I've 2 years in a row, I said, [12:17] But like I said, You know, I've 2 years in a row, I said, one-time lump sum, uh, last [12:20] 2 years in a row, I said, one-time lump sum, uh, last [12:20] 2 years in a row, I said, one-time lump sum, uh, last year was, uh, $1.63 per 1000 [12:24] one-time lump sum, uh, last year was, uh, $1.63 per 1000 [12:24] one-time lump sum, uh, last year was, uh, $1.63 per 1000 just one year lump sum pay into [12:27] year was, uh, $1.63 per 1000 just one year lump sum pay into [12:27] year was, uh, $1.63 per 1000 just one year lump sum pay into the town one year. At that [12:31] just one year lump sum pay into the town one year. At that [12:31] just one year lump sum pay into the town one year. At that Right. This year went up to [12:33] the town one year. At that Right. This year went up to [12:33] the town one year. At that Right. This year went up to 1.83% because of inflation. I [12:35] Right. This year went up to 1.83% because of inflation. I [12:35] Right. This year went up to 1.83% because of inflation. I said the same, one year. Why? [12:37] 1.83% because of inflation. I said the same, one year. Why? [12:37] 1.83% because of inflation. I said the same, one year. Why? That'll give us surplus money. [12:40] said the same, one year. Why? That'll give us surplus money. [12:40] said the same, one year. Why? That'll give us surplus money. To be able to offset things so [12:41] That'll give us surplus money. To be able to offset things so [12:41] That'll give us surplus money. To be able to offset things so that we can end up debt [12:42] To be able to offset things so that we can end up debt [12:43] To be able to offset things so that we can end up debt servicing our own problems. So [12:44] that we can end up debt servicing our own problems. So [12:44] that we can end up debt servicing our own problems. So when a school doesn't have [12:47] servicing our own problems. So when a school doesn't have [12:47] servicing our own problems. So when a school doesn't have money, well, we do. You know, [12:49] when a school doesn't have money, well, we do. You know, [12:49] when a school doesn't have money, well, we do. You know, we can put that over there. But [12:51] money, well, we do. You know, we can put that over there. But [12:51] money, well, we do. You know, we can put that over there. But that has to be paid back. Over [12:54] we can put that over there. But that has to be paid back. Over [12:54] we can put that over there. But that has to be paid back. Over a period of time and sort of [12:56] that has to be paid back. Over a period of time and sort of [12:56] that has to be paid back. Over a period of time and sort of act like your own bank. And we [12:58] a period of time and sort of act like your own bank. And we [12:58] a period of time and sort of act like your own bank. And we can do that by creating a [13:00] act like your own bank. And we can do that by creating a [13:00] act like your own bank. And we can do that by creating a special purpose fund, uh, you [13:00] can do that by creating a special purpose fund, uh, you [13:01] can do that by creating a special purpose fund, uh, you know, a special, uh, uh. Uh, [13:04] special purpose fund, uh, you know, a special, uh, uh. Uh, [13:04] special purpose fund, uh, you know, a special, uh, uh. Uh, you know, fun to have it [13:05] know, a special, uh, uh. Uh, you know, fun to have it [13:05] know, a special, uh, uh. Uh, you know, fun to have it appropriated. So in that way [13:08] you know, fun to have it appropriated. So in that way [13:08] you know, fun to have it appropriated. So in that way there there's no transfers of [13:09] appropriated. So in that way there there's no transfers of [13:10] appropriated. So in that way there there's no transfers of money. You know, to circumvent. [13:14] there there's no transfers of money. You know, to circumvent. [13:14] there there's no transfers of money. You know, to circumvent. Appropriations. ought to [13:16] money. You know, to circumvent. Appropriations. ought to [13:16] money. You know, to circumvent. Appropriations. ought to circumvent the voters. Which [13:19] Appropriations. ought to circumvent the voters. Which [13:19] Appropriations. ought to circumvent the voters. Which just recently happened. But [13:21] circumvent the voters. Which just recently happened. But [13:21] circumvent the voters. Which just recently happened. But thank goodness that the state [13:23] just recently happened. But thank goodness that the state [13:23] just recently happened. But thank goodness that the state decided to set up a little bit [13:25] thank goodness that the state decided to set up a little bit [13:25] thank goodness that the state decided to set up a little bit of money. Yeah, but that money [13:27] decided to set up a little bit of money. Yeah, but that money [13:27] decided to set up a little bit of money. Yeah, but that money should have went to academics. [13:32] of money. Yeah, but that money should have went to academics. [13:32] of money. Yeah, but that money should have went to academics. And psychologists and Teacher [13:32] should have went to academics. And psychologists and Teacher [13:32] should have went to academics. And psychologists and Teacher aides. You know, um, Into other [13:38] And psychologists and Teacher aides. You know, um, Into other [13:39] And psychologists and Teacher aides. You know, um, Into other things, not extracurricular [13:39] aides. You know, um, Into other things, not extracurricular [13:39] aides. You know, um, Into other things, not extracurricular activity. You know, That's a [13:45] things, not extracurricular activity. You know, That's a [13:45] things, not extracurricular activity. You know, That's a That's coming for another boy. [13:48] activity. You know, That's a That's coming for another boy. [13:48] activity. You know, That's a That's coming for another boy. But this is what we have here [13:50] That's coming for another boy. But this is what we have here [13:50] That's coming for another boy. But this is what we have here in our reports, you know, uh, [13:52] But this is what we have here in our reports, you know, uh, [13:52] But this is what we have here in our reports, you know, uh, too little, too late. You know, [13:55] in our reports, you know, uh, too little, too late. You know, [13:55] in our reports, you know, uh, too little, too late. You know, we had an opportunity to be [13:56] too little, too late. You know, we had an opportunity to be [13:57] too little, too late. You know, we had an opportunity to be part of a regional school [13:57] we had an opportunity to be part of a regional school [13:57] we had an opportunity to be part of a regional school system. We never have to be [13:59] part of a regional school system. We never have to be [13:59] part of a regional school system. We never have to be worried about. 10 years ago we [14:01] system. We never have to be worried about. 10 years ago we [14:01] system. We never have to be worried about. 10 years ago we never had to be worried about [14:02] worried about. 10 years ago we never had to be worried about [14:02] worried about. 10 years ago we never had to be worried about transportation. So nobody sees [14:05] never had to be worried about transportation. So nobody sees [14:05] never had to be worried about transportation. So nobody sees the future. Financial analysts [14:08] transportation. So nobody sees the future. Financial analysts [14:08] transportation. So nobody sees the future. Financial analysts do and people who look at [14:08] the future. Financial analysts do and people who look at [14:08] the future. Financial analysts do and people who look at finance like you when you're [14:10] do and people who look at finance like you when you're [14:10] do and people who look at finance like you when you're working with a large [14:10] finance like you when you're working with a large [14:10] finance like you when you're working with a large manufacturing company like you [14:12] working with a large manufacturing company like you [14:12] working with a large manufacturing company like you do. They they're always looking [14:14] manufacturing company like you do. They they're always looking [14:14] manufacturing company like you do. They they're always looking to cost of material, [14:17] do. They they're always looking to cost of material, [14:17] do. They they're always looking to cost of material, commodities, they're always [14:17] to cost of material, commodities, they're always [14:17] to cost of material, commodities, they're always looking at, gosh, what's this [14:19] commodities, they're always looking at, gosh, what's this [14:19] commodities, they're always looking at, gosh, what's this going to cost in 10 years. And [14:21] looking at, gosh, what's this going to cost in 10 years. And [14:22] looking at, gosh, what's this going to cost in 10 years. And how do we get there? What [14:23] going to cost in 10 years. And how do we get there? What [14:23] going to cost in 10 years. And how do we get there? What equipment do we need to be able [14:24] how do we get there? What equipment do we need to be able [14:24] how do we get there? What equipment do we need to be able to make the workload less [14:26] equipment do we need to be able to make the workload less [14:26] equipment do we need to be able to make the workload less because labor is the highest [14:28] to make the workload less because labor is the highest [14:28] to make the workload less because labor is the highest cost. You know, and what [14:31] because labor is the highest cost. You know, and what [14:31] because labor is the highest cost. You know, and what investment do we make today, so [14:32] cost. You know, and what investment do we make today, so [14:32] cost. You know, and what investment do we make today, so in 10 years we're going to be [14:33] investment do we make today, so in 10 years we're going to be [14:33] investment do we make today, so in 10 years we're going to be OK. You know, we can't just [14:35] in 10 years we're going to be OK. You know, we can't just [14:35] in 10 years we're going to be OK. You know, we can't just look at, oh, they didn't do it [14:37] OK. You know, we can't just look at, oh, they didn't do it [14:37] OK. You know, we can't just look at, oh, they didn't do it this year, we'll do it next [14:38] look at, oh, they didn't do it this year, we'll do it next [14:38] look at, oh, they didn't do it this year, we'll do it next year, next year, next year. [14:39] this year, we'll do it next year, next year, next year. [14:39] this year, we'll do it next year, next year, next year. That's how you run your house [14:40] year, next year, next year. That's how you run your house [14:40] year, next year, next year. That's how you run your house budget. Not how I run mine, but [14:44] That's how you run your house budget. Not how I run mine, but [14:44] That's how you run your house budget. Not how I run mine, but You know, That's crisis [14:46] budget. Not how I run mine, but You know, That's crisis [14:46] budget. Not how I run mine, but You know, That's crisis management. You know, instead [14:50] You know, That's crisis management. You know, instead [14:50] You know, That's crisis management. You know, instead of fiscal. You know, [14:52] management. You know, instead of fiscal. You know, [14:52] management. You know, instead of fiscal. You know, conservative policy. That's bad [14:53] of fiscal. You know, conservative policy. That's bad [14:53] of fiscal. You know, conservative policy. That's bad but we built a fiscally [14:55] conservative policy. That's bad but we built a fiscally [14:55] conservative policy. That's bad but we built a fiscally conservative policy here, I [14:57] but we built a fiscally conservative policy here, I [14:57] but we built a fiscally conservative policy here, I think, didn't we? I think so, [14:58] conservative policy here, I think, didn't we? I think so, [14:58] conservative policy here, I think, didn't we? I think so, yeah, one that's fair, balanced [15:00] think, didn't we? I think so, yeah, one that's fair, balanced [15:00] think, didn't we? I think so, yeah, one that's fair, balanced right? Creates people. You know [15:06] yeah, one that's fair, balanced right? Creates people. You know [15:06] yeah, one that's fair, balanced right? Creates people. You know makes people equal. Had to get [15:08] right? Creates people. You know makes people equal. Had to get [15:08] right? Creates people. You know makes people equal. Had to get through all the brouhaha though [15:09] makes people equal. Had to get through all the brouhaha though [15:09] makes people equal. Had to get through all the brouhaha though in the beginning, remember? [15:11] through all the brouhaha though in the beginning, remember? [15:11] through all the brouhaha though in the beginning, remember? who's in charge of what money [15:11] in the beginning, remember? who's in charge of what money [15:11] in the beginning, remember? who's in charge of what money and how's this, we're still [15:13] who's in charge of what money and how's this, we're still [15:13] who's in charge of what money and how's this, we're still there. And that's where we [15:15] and how's this, we're still there. And that's where we [15:15] and how's this, we're still there. And that's where we segue into. Yes. Our next [15:17] there. And that's where we segue into. Yes. Our next [15:17] there. And that's where we segue into. Yes. Our next section of new business, which [15:18] segue into. Yes. Our next section of new business, which [15:18] segue into. Yes. Our next section of new business, which is. The day fund Cyre filing [15:22] section of new business, which is. The day fund Cyre filing [15:22] section of new business, which is. The day fund Cyre filing communication. I just had a [15:24] is. The day fund Cyre filing communication. I just had a [15:24] is. The day fund Cyre filing communication. I just had a communication tonight with town [15:26] communication. I just had a communication tonight with town [15:26] communication. I just had a communication tonight with town its town manager coming in the [15:29] communication tonight with town its town manager coming in the [15:29] communication tonight with town its town manager coming in the door, um, Yep. She has no [15:33] its town manager coming in the door, um, Yep. She has no [15:33] its town manager coming in the door, um, Yep. She has no problem getting a so. Uh, site [15:36] door, um, Yep. She has no problem getting a so. Uh, site [15:36] door, um, Yep. She has no problem getting a so. Uh, site profiling so that we can just [15:36] problem getting a so. Uh, site profiling so that we can just [15:36] problem getting a so. Uh, site profiling so that we can just review it and say, OK, OK, [15:38] profiling so that we can just review it and say, OK, OK, [15:38] profiling so that we can just review it and say, OK, OK, great. Yeah, no, it's town [15:40] review it and say, OK, OK, great. Yeah, no, it's town [15:40] review it and say, OK, OK, great. Yeah, no, it's town meeting was a lot of work for [15:42] great. Yeah, no, it's town meeting was a lot of work for [15:42] great. Yeah, no, it's town meeting was a lot of work for her, getting up to there. So [15:43] meeting was a lot of work for her, getting up to there. So [15:43] meeting was a lot of work for her, getting up to there. So there's, you know, Overwhelming [15:47] her, getting up to there. So there's, you know, Overwhelming [15:47] her, getting up to there. So there's, you know, Overwhelming for a lot of people to get that [15:49] there's, you know, Overwhelming for a lot of people to get that [15:49] there's, you know, Overwhelming for a lot of people to get that special town meeting going. So [15:51] for a lot of people to get that special town meeting going. So [15:51] for a lot of people to get that special town meeting going. So there were delays. We expected [15:52] special town meeting going. So there were delays. We expected [15:52] special town meeting going. So there were delays. We expected it. We knew it, you know, we [15:55] there were delays. We expected it. We knew it, you know, we [15:55] there were delays. We expected it. We knew it, you know, we had some delays. We'll discuss [15:56] it. We knew it, you know, we had some delays. We'll discuss [15:56] it. We knew it, you know, we had some delays. We'll discuss that next week. We that on next [15:58] had some delays. We'll discuss that next week. We that on next [15:58] had some delays. We'll discuss that next week. We that on next week's agenda. Why we had [16:00] that next week. We that on next week's agenda. Why we had [16:00] that next week. We that on next week's agenda. Why we had delays. On this commission. Oh [16:06] week's agenda. Why we had delays. On this commission. Oh [16:07] week's agenda. Why we had delays. On this commission. Oh And that brings me into the [16:09] delays. On this commission. Oh And that brings me into the [16:09] delays. On this commission. Oh And that brings me into the next issue. The school [16:11] And that brings me into the next issue. The school [16:11] And that brings me into the next issue. The school department trust funds in [16:13] next issue. The school department trust funds in [16:13] next issue. The school department trust funds in charitable gifts. Issues. Uh, [16:18] department trust funds in charitable gifts. Issues. Uh, [16:18] department trust funds in charitable gifts. Issues. Uh, So there was a letter that we [16:20] charitable gifts. Issues. Uh, So there was a letter that we [16:20] charitable gifts. Issues. Uh, So there was a letter that we were discussing. Um, Oh, you [16:23] So there was a letter that we were discussing. Um, Oh, you [16:23] So there was a letter that we were discussing. Um, Oh, you don't have anything to say on [16:23] were discussing. Um, Oh, you don't have anything to say on [16:24] were discussing. Um, Oh, you don't have anything to say on the day fund, right? Set. Yeah, [16:26] don't have anything to say on the day fund, right? Set. Yeah, [16:26] don't have anything to say on the day fund, right? Set. Yeah, you don't have anything to say [16:27] the day fund, right? Set. Yeah, you don't have anything to say [16:27] the day fund, right? Set. Yeah, you don't have anything to say on the day, right? Oh, OK, I [16:29] you don't have anything to say on the day, right? Oh, OK, I [16:29] you don't have anything to say on the day, right? Oh, OK, I didn't think so. I, that was [16:30] on the day, right? Oh, OK, I didn't think so. I, that was [16:30] on the day, right? Oh, OK, I didn't think so. I, that was just an information. Um, That [16:34] didn't think so. I, that was just an information. Um, That [16:34] didn't think so. I, that was just an information. Um, That we already knew. We knew [16:36] just an information. Um, That we already knew. We knew [16:36] just an information. Um, That we already knew. We knew there's a lot of work going on, [16:37] we already knew. We knew there's a lot of work going on, [16:37] we already knew. We knew there's a lot of work going on, you know. So, uh, the school [16:41] there's a lot of work going on, you know. So, uh, the school [16:41] there's a lot of work going on, you know. So, uh, the school department Trust funds [16:41] you know. So, uh, the school department Trust funds [16:41] you know. So, uh, the school department Trust funds charitable gets. So there was a [16:43] department Trust funds charitable gets. So there was a [16:43] department Trust funds charitable gets. So there was a letter that we, uh, formulated, [16:45] charitable gets. So there was a letter that we, uh, formulated, [16:45] charitable gets. So there was a letter that we, uh, formulated, uh, entitled Supplemental [16:47] letter that we, uh, formulated, uh, entitled Supplemental [16:47] letter that we, uh, formulated, uh, entitled Supplemental Compliance Complaint request [16:48] uh, entitled Supplemental Compliance Complaint request [16:48] uh, entitled Supplemental Compliance Complaint request for investigative action, which [16:49] Compliance Complaint request for investigative action, which [16:50] Compliance Complaint request for investigative action, which is a draft letter, OK. So you [16:52] for investigative action, which is a draft letter, OK. So you [16:52] for investigative action, which is a draft letter, OK. So you have the draft letter. We're [16:54] is a draft letter, OK. So you have the draft letter. We're [16:54] is a draft letter, OK. So you have the draft letter. We're just not pursuing that at this [16:57] have the draft letter. We're just not pursuing that at this [16:57] have the draft letter. We're just not pursuing that at this time because we're still doing [16:59] just not pursuing that at this time because we're still doing [16:59] just not pursuing that at this time because we're still doing the uh Um, the friendship thing [17:03] time because we're still doing the uh Um, the friendship thing [17:03] time because we're still doing the uh Um, the friendship thing Come on, buddy. We're on a [17:05] the uh Um, the friendship thing Come on, buddy. We're on a [17:05] the uh Um, the friendship thing Come on, buddy. We're on a board, you're on a board, let's [17:06] Come on, buddy. We're on a board, you're on a board, let's [17:06] Come on, buddy. We're on a board, you're on a board, let's get together and have coffee. [17:10] board, you're on a board, let's get together and have coffee. [17:10] board, you're on a board, let's get together and have coffee. It's a lot of differences. You [17:11] get together and have coffee. It's a lot of differences. You [17:11] get together and have coffee. It's a lot of differences. You know, Let's make a deal. Monty [17:14] It's a lot of differences. You know, Let's make a deal. Monty [17:14] It's a lot of differences. You know, Let's make a deal. Monty Hall, Picador. 123. You know, [17:19] know, Let's make a deal. Monty Hall, Picador. 123. You know, [17:19] know, Let's make a deal. Monty Hall, Picador. 123. You know, then we'll try to work with it. [17:22] Hall, Picador. 123. You know, then we'll try to work with it. [17:22] Hall, Picador. 123. You know, then we'll try to work with it. It's time to All right. So, [17:26] then we'll try to work with it. It's time to All right. So, [17:26] then we'll try to work with it. It's time to All right. So, here's the status. So there was [17:28] It's time to All right. So, here's the status. So there was [17:28] It's time to All right. So, here's the status. So there was a joint meeting requested, as [17:29] here's the status. So there was a joint meeting requested, as [17:29] here's the status. So there was a joint meeting requested, as we had said in the last meeting [17:31] a joint meeting requested, as we had said in the last meeting [17:31] a joint meeting requested, as we had said in the last meeting to school committee chair that [17:32] we had said in the last meeting to school committee chair that [17:32] we had said in the last meeting to school committee chair that was sent out on August [17:33] to school committee chair that was sent out on August [17:33] to school committee chair that was sent out on August twenty-seventh. We, uh, it was [17:37] was sent out on August twenty-seventh. We, uh, it was [17:37] was sent out on August twenty-seventh. We, uh, it was resent, uh, September 4th [17:39] twenty-seventh. We, uh, it was resent, uh, September 4th [17:39] twenty-seventh. We, uh, it was resent, uh, September 4th because when I saw, um, Ms. [17:44] resent, uh, September 4th because when I saw, um, Ms. [17:44] resent, uh, September 4th because when I saw, um, Ms. Bzoovsky at town hall, she said [17:46] because when I saw, um, Ms. Bzoovsky at town hall, she said [17:46] because when I saw, um, Ms. Bzoovsky at town hall, she said Oh, did you send that to my [17:48] Bzoovsky at town hall, she said Oh, did you send that to my [17:48] Bzoovsky at town hall, she said Oh, did you send that to my town email because my school [17:49] Oh, did you send that to my town email because my school [17:49] Oh, did you send that to my town email because my school email pops up on my phone I [17:51] town email because my school email pops up on my phone I [17:51] town email because my school email pops up on my phone I don't go into my town email. I [17:51] email pops up on my phone I don't go into my town email. I [17:51] email pops up on my phone I don't go into my town email. I was like, oops. Get it out to [17:55] don't go into my town email. I was like, oops. Get it out to [17:55] don't go into my town email. I was like, oops. Get it out to you. I didn't mind. I just took [17:57] was like, oops. Get it out to you. I didn't mind. I just took [17:57] was like, oops. Get it out to you. I didn't mind. I just took the dropdown window and said El [17:59] you. I didn't mind. I just took the dropdown window and said El [17:59] you. I didn't mind. I just took the dropdown window and said El Bazarski. I said, there you go, [18:00] the dropdown window and said El Bazarski. I said, there you go, [18:00] the dropdown window and said El Bazarski. I said, there you go, off it went. Do you know what I [18:02] Bazarski. I said, there you go, off it went. Do you know what I [18:02] Bazarski. I said, there you go, off it went. Do you know what I mean? I didn't think, oh, it, I [18:04] off it went. Do you know what I mean? I didn't think, oh, it, I [18:04] off it went. Do you know what I mean? I didn't think, oh, it, I should have sent it to the [18:05] mean? I didn't think, oh, it, I should have sent it to the [18:05] mean? I didn't think, oh, it, I should have sent it to the school email as opposed to her [18:07] should have sent it to the school email as opposed to her [18:07] should have sent it to the school email as opposed to her town, her Lunenberg Mac, yeah, [18:10] school email as opposed to her town, her Lunenberg Mac, yeah, [18:10] school email as opposed to her town, her Lunenberg Mac, yeah, right. So there's 2 emails. So, [18:13] town, her Lunenberg Mac, yeah, right. So there's 2 emails. So, [18:13] town, her Lunenberg Mac, yeah, right. So there's 2 emails. So, uh, that's, I guess, a common [18:15] right. So there's 2 emails. So, uh, that's, I guess, a common [18:15] right. So there's 2 emails. So, uh, that's, I guess, a common happening between things. I [18:16] uh, that's, I guess, a common happening between things. I [18:16] uh, that's, I guess, a common happening between things. I know it happened to my son. My [18:19] happening between things. I know it happened to my son. My [18:19] happening between things. I know it happened to my son. My son sent, uh. Ms. Emy email. [18:23] know it happened to my son. My son sent, uh. Ms. Emy email. [18:23] know it happened to my son. My son sent, uh. Ms. Emy email. And, uh, He sent it to Um, Not [18:31] son sent, uh. Ms. Emy email. And, uh, He sent it to Um, Not [18:31] son sent, uh. Ms. Emy email. And, uh, He sent it to Um, Not to her town email he wrote. At [18:34] And, uh, He sent it to Um, Not to her town email he wrote. At [18:34] And, uh, He sent it to Um, Not to her town email he wrote. At Lunenbergschools.net. Instead [18:38] to her town email he wrote. At Lunenbergschools.net. Instead [18:38] to her town email he wrote. At Lunenbergschools.net. Instead of, you know, at Lunenberg MA. [18:42] Lunenbergschools.net. Instead of, you know, at Lunenberg MA. [18:42] Lunenbergschools.net. Instead of, you know, at Lunenberg MA. Dot gov. Yeah. So she's like, [18:44] of, you know, at Lunenberg MA. Dot gov. Yeah. So she's like, [18:44] of, you know, at Lunenberg MA. Dot gov. Yeah. So she's like, that's not my email. He's like, [18:45] Dot gov. Yeah. So she's like, that's not my email. He's like, [18:45] Dot gov. Yeah. So she's like, that's not my email. He's like, oh. OK, I'll resend it. So it [18:49] that's not my email. He's like, oh. OK, I'll resend it. So it [18:49] that's not my email. He's like, oh. OK, I'll resend it. So it happens, it happens. No big [18:50] oh. OK, I'll resend it. So it happens, it happens. No big [18:50] oh. OK, I'll resend it. So it happens, it happens. No big deal. So we did request a joint [18:53] happens, it happens. No big deal. So we did request a joint [18:53] happens, it happens. No big deal. So we did request a joint meeting. I resent that on [18:56] deal. So we did request a joint meeting. I resent that on [18:56] deal. So we did request a joint meeting. I resent that on September 4th with a little bit [18:56] meeting. I resent that on September 4th with a little bit [18:56] meeting. I resent that on September 4th with a little bit more detail. I'm gonna go over [18:58] September 4th with a little bit more detail. I'm gonna go over [18:58] September 4th with a little bit more detail. I'm gonna go over that. Um, On September 4th, I [19:03] more detail. I'm gonna go over that. Um, On September 4th, I [19:03] more detail. I'm gonna go over that. Um, On September 4th, I did get a reply, uh, from the, [19:07] that. Um, On September 4th, I did get a reply, uh, from the, [19:07] that. Um, On September 4th, I did get a reply, uh, from the, uh, committee's chair, and it [19:09] did get a reply, uh, from the, uh, committee's chair, and it [19:09] did get a reply, uh, from the, uh, committee's chair, and it said, what do you think it said [19:10] uh, committee's chair, and it said, what do you think it said [19:10] uh, committee's chair, and it said, what do you think it said ? Put it in the agenda. What do [19:12] said, what do you think it said ? Put it in the agenda. What do [19:12] said, what do you think it said ? Put it in the agenda. What do you think it said? I didn't [19:15] ? Put it in the agenda. What do you think it said? I didn't [19:15] ? Put it in the agenda. What do you think it said? I didn't read the agenda. Oh, I'm sorry. [19:16] you think it said? I didn't read the agenda. Oh, I'm sorry. [19:16] you think it said? I didn't read the agenda. Oh, I'm sorry. Well, you were included on the [19:18] read the agenda. Oh, I'm sorry. Well, you were included on the [19:18] read the agenda. Oh, I'm sorry. Well, you were included on the letter. Yes, I was included on [19:20] Well, you were included on the letter. Yes, I was included on [19:20] Well, you were included on the letter. Yes, I was included on that's right. We'll consult the [19:23] letter. Yes, I was included on that's right. We'll consult the [19:23] letter. Yes, I was included on that's right. We'll consult the committee's attorney. Now the [19:27] that's right. We'll consult the committee's attorney. Now the [19:27] that's right. We'll consult the committee's attorney. Now the deflection I mean, you know. [19:30] committee's attorney. Now the deflection I mean, you know. [19:30] committee's attorney. Now the deflection I mean, you know. She's also, you know, new to [19:32] deflection I mean, you know. She's also, you know, new to [19:32] deflection I mean, you know. She's also, you know, new to being chairman of that, but [19:34] She's also, you know, new to being chairman of that, but [19:34] She's also, you know, new to being chairman of that, but that's been answered, and we're [19:35] being chairman of that, but that's been answered, and we're [19:35] being chairman of that, but that's been answered, and we're gonna go over that tonight. So [19:38] that's been answered, and we're gonna go over that tonight. So [19:38] that's been answered, and we're gonna go over that tonight. So then this commission sent a [19:39] gonna go over that tonight. So then this commission sent a [19:39] gonna go over that tonight. So then this commission sent a full response to that. an email [19:41] then this commission sent a full response to that. an email [19:41] then this commission sent a full response to that. an email because I already had [19:43] full response to that. an email because I already had [19:43] full response to that. an email because I already had permission here, uh, by vote to [19:44] because I already had permission here, uh, by vote to [19:44] because I already had permission here, uh, by vote to be able to engage in email [19:46] permission here, uh, by vote to be able to engage in email [19:46] permission here, uh, by vote to be able to engage in email exchange to set up a joint [19:48] be able to engage in email exchange to set up a joint [19:48] be able to engage in email exchange to set up a joint meeting. So I answered that [19:50] exchange to set up a joint meeting. So I answered that [19:50] exchange to set up a joint meeting. So I answered that response. I CC'd the town [19:52] meeting. So I answered that response. I CC'd the town [19:52] meeting. So I answered that response. I CC'd the town manager, the select board chair [19:54] response. I CC'd the town manager, the select board chair [19:54] response. I CC'd the town manager, the select board chair town council, treasurer, and [19:55] manager, the select board chair town council, treasurer, and [19:55] manager, the select board chair town council, treasurer, and the superintendent. OK, and [19:59] town council, treasurer, and the superintendent. OK, and [19:59] town council, treasurer, and the superintendent. OK, and Basically at our last meeting, [20:01] the superintendent. OK, and Basically at our last meeting, [20:01] the superintendent. OK, and Basically at our last meeting, we said a 30 day window, so [20:03] Basically at our last meeting, we said a 30 day window, so [20:03] Basically at our last meeting, we said a 30 day window, so that runs to approximately [20:05] we said a 30 day window, so that runs to approximately [20:05] we said a 30 day window, so that runs to approximately September 26th, and as of today [20:08] that runs to approximately September 26th, and as of today [20:08] that runs to approximately September 26th, and as of today uh, no response as of September [20:10] September 26th, and as of today uh, no response as of September [20:10] September 26th, and as of today uh, no response as of September 10th. I like how I wrote that [20:11] uh, no response as of September 10th. I like how I wrote that [20:11] uh, no response as of September 10th. I like how I wrote that in the agenda, no response as [20:12] 10th. I like how I wrote that in the agenda, no response as [20:13] 10th. I like how I wrote that in the agenda, no response as of September 10th, like I could [20:14] in the agenda, no response as of September 10th, like I could [20:14] in the agenda, no response as of September 10th, like I could see the future. Um, You know [20:17] of September 10th, like I could see the future. Um, You know [20:17] of September 10th, like I could see the future. Um, You know what September 8th, you would [20:19] see the future. Um, You know what September 8th, you would [20:19] see the future. Um, You know what September 8th, you would have no responses. They were [20:19] what September 8th, you would have no responses. They were [20:19] what September 8th, you would have no responses. They were supposed to say 8th. I think I [20:22] have no responses. They were supposed to say 8th. I think I [20:22] have no responses. They were supposed to say 8th. I think I was thinking September 10th [20:24] supposed to say 8th. I think I was thinking September 10th [20:24] supposed to say 8th. I think I was thinking September 10th because I was right in [20:24] was thinking September 10th because I was right in [20:24] was thinking September 10th because I was right in September 10th up top. You were [20:26] because I was right in September 10th up top. You were [20:26] because I was right in September 10th up top. You were right. Ultimately, yeah, it was [20:29] September 10th up top. You were right. Ultimately, yeah, it was [20:29] September 10th up top. You were right. Ultimately, yeah, it was accurate Back to the Future. [20:32] right. Ultimately, yeah, it was accurate Back to the Future. [20:32] right. Ultimately, yeah, it was accurate Back to the Future. You know, Ren and Stimpy, uh, [20:35] accurate Back to the Future. You know, Ren and Stimpy, uh, [20:35] accurate Back to the Future. You know, Ren and Stimpy, uh, what is it? I don't know. I [20:37] You know, Ren and Stimpy, uh, what is it? I don't know. I [20:37] You know, Ren and Stimpy, uh, what is it? I don't know. I forget all that stuff. So, what [20:40] what is it? I don't know. I forget all that stuff. So, what [20:40] what is it? I don't know. I forget all that stuff. So, what I'd like to do. I would like to [20:44] forget all that stuff. So, what I'd like to do. I would like to [20:44] forget all that stuff. So, what I'd like to do. I would like to go over the email that I sent. [20:48] I'd like to do. I would like to go over the email that I sent. [20:48] I'd like to do. I would like to go over the email that I sent. Um, to all those individuals so [20:51] go over the email that I sent. Um, to all those individuals so [20:51] go over the email that I sent. Um, to all those individuals so that the public sees what we're [20:53] Um, to all those individuals so that the public sees what we're [20:53] Um, to all those individuals so that the public sees what we're working with. OK. G Um, On the [21:04] that the public sees what we're working with. OK. G Um, On the [21:04] that the public sees what we're working with. OK. G Um, On the way So I'm gonna read through [21:08] working with. OK. G Um, On the way So I'm gonna read through [21:08] working with. OK. G Um, On the way So I'm gonna read through this. I'm going to put it on [21:09] way So I'm gonna read through this. I'm going to put it on [21:09] way So I'm gonna read through this. I'm going to put it on the screen. I'm just going to [21:10] this. I'm going to put it on the screen. I'm just going to [21:11] this. I'm going to put it on the screen. I'm just going to read this. I want you to [21:11] the screen. I'm just going to read this. I want you to [21:11] the screen. I'm just going to read this. I want you to understand. Uh, Why this is not [21:15] read this. I want you to understand. Uh, Why this is not [21:15] read this. I want you to understand. Uh, Why this is not so grave of an issue. You know, [21:18] understand. Uh, Why this is not so grave of an issue. You know, [21:18] understand. Uh, Why this is not so grave of an issue. You know, to be able to have a joint [21:20] so grave of an issue. You know, to be able to have a joint [21:20] so grave of an issue. You know, to be able to have a joint meeting. or even to get the [21:22] to be able to have a joint meeting. or even to get the [21:22] to be able to have a joint meeting. or even to get the information, but it seems this [21:24] meeting. or even to get the information, but it seems this [21:24] meeting. or even to get the information, but it seems this seriously daunting task. But [21:25] information, but it seems this seriously daunting task. But [21:25] information, but it seems this seriously daunting task. But what, what I'm going to read to [21:26] seriously daunting task. But what, what I'm going to read to [21:26] seriously daunting task. But what, what I'm going to read to you is an entire outline of our [21:29] what, what I'm going to read to you is an entire outline of our [21:29] what, what I'm going to read to you is an entire outline of our communications, uh, thus far on [21:31] you is an entire outline of our communications, uh, thus far on [21:31] you is an entire outline of our communications, uh, thus far on this issue of uh declarations [21:34] communications, uh, thus far on this issue of uh declarations [21:34] communications, uh, thus far on this issue of uh declarations held, uh, By the school for [21:38] this issue of uh declarations held, uh, By the school for [21:38] this issue of uh declarations held, uh, By the school for trusts and scholarships. So, [21:42] held, uh, By the school for trusts and scholarships. So, [21:42] held, uh, By the school for trusts and scholarships. So, just to be clear, OK. So that's [21:47] trusts and scholarships. So, just to be clear, OK. So that's [21:47] trusts and scholarships. So, just to be clear, OK. So that's What this email was, it was a [21:51] just to be clear, OK. So that's What this email was, it was a [21:51] just to be clear, OK. So that's What this email was, it was a history and a rationale. Again, [21:56] What this email was, it was a history and a rationale. Again, [21:56] What this email was, it was a history and a rationale. Again, this was sent to Uh Vice Chair [22:00] history and a rationale. Again, this was sent to Uh Vice Chair [22:00] history and a rationale. Again, this was sent to Uh Vice Chair Scallabrini. Uh, Town manager [22:05] this was sent to Uh Vice Chair Scallabrini. Uh, Town manager [22:05] this was sent to Uh Vice Chair Scallabrini. Uh, Town manager Warren Chairman Emke. Jeremy [22:09] Scallabrini. Uh, Town manager Warren Chairman Emke. Jeremy [22:09] Scallabrini. Uh, Town manager Warren Chairman Emke. Jeremy Manna. Attorney Costa. Richard [22:16] Warren Chairman Emke. Jeremy Manna. Attorney Costa. Richard [22:16] Warren Chairman Emke. Jeremy Manna. Attorney Costa. Richard was included as vice chair, uh, [22:18] Manna. Attorney Costa. Richard was included as vice chair, uh, [22:18] Manna. Attorney Costa. Richard was included as vice chair, uh, there's an explanation for that [22:20] was included as vice chair, uh, there's an explanation for that [22:20] was included as vice chair, uh, there's an explanation for that Uh, Superintendent Fortuna and, [22:23] there's an explanation for that Uh, Superintendent Fortuna and, [22:23] there's an explanation for that Uh, Superintendent Fortuna and, uh, Uh, Mylene Milari, the [22:27] Uh, Superintendent Fortuna and, uh, Uh, Mylene Milari, the [22:27] Uh, Superintendent Fortuna and, uh, Uh, Mylene Milari, the treasurer. It says, Laura. [22:31] uh, Uh, Mylene Milari, the treasurer. It says, Laura. [22:32] uh, Uh, Mylene Milari, the treasurer. It says, Laura. Richard Howard, vice chairman [22:32] treasurer. It says, Laura. Richard Howard, vice chairman [22:32] treasurer. It says, Laura. Richard Howard, vice chairman of the Board of Commissioners [22:33] Richard Howard, vice chairman of the Board of Commissioners [22:33] Richard Howard, vice chairman of the Board of Commissioners of Trust Funds is copied on [22:34] of the Board of Commissioners of Trust Funds is copied on [22:34] of the Board of Commissioners of Trust Funds is copied on this email for information only [22:36] of Trust Funds is copied on this email for information only [22:36] of Trust Funds is copied on this email for information only He's not a participant in this [22:39] this email for information only He's not a participant in this [22:39] this email for information only He's not a participant in this communication in the commission [22:39] He's not a participant in this communication in the commission [22:39] He's not a participant in this communication in the commission will take up any response at a [22:42] communication in the commission will take up any response at a [22:42] communication in the commission will take up any response at a posted meeting. Just wanted to [22:43] will take up any response at a posted meeting. Just wanted to [22:43] will take up any response at a posted meeting. Just wanted to be clear, uh, the reason why [22:45] posted meeting. Just wanted to be clear, uh, the reason why [22:46] posted meeting. Just wanted to be clear, uh, the reason why Richard had to be included in [22:47] be clear, uh, the reason why Richard had to be included in [22:47] be clear, uh, the reason why Richard had to be included in that, uh, is For information. [22:51] Richard had to be included in that, uh, is For information. [22:51] Richard had to be included in that, uh, is For information. Because this email gets put [22:52] that, uh, is For information. Because this email gets put [22:52] that, uh, is For information. Because this email gets put into Um, a drive file anyways. [22:57] Because this email gets put into Um, a drive file anyways. [22:57] Because this email gets put into Um, a drive file anyways. But Um, that would be something [22:59] into Um, a drive file anyways. But Um, that would be something [22:59] into Um, a drive file anyways. But Um, that would be something would be private. So this [23:02] But Um, that would be something would be private. So this [23:02] But Um, that would be something would be private. So this particular email, once I send [23:04] would be private. So this particular email, once I send [23:04] would be private. So this particular email, once I send it, uh, is actually a public [23:06] particular email, once I send it, uh, is actually a public [23:06] particular email, once I send it, uh, is actually a public record. Immediately Somebody [23:10] it, uh, is actually a public record. Immediately Somebody [23:10] it, uh, is actually a public record. Immediately Somebody can say, I want every email [23:11] record. Immediately Somebody can say, I want every email [23:11] record. Immediately Somebody can say, I want every email John Bowen ever sent. Between [23:13] can say, I want every email John Bowen ever sent. Between [23:13] can say, I want every email John Bowen ever sent. Between this date and this date, and [23:15] John Bowen ever sent. Between this date and this date, and [23:15] John Bowen ever sent. Between this date and this date, and this email will show up. So if [23:17] this date and this date, and this email will show up. So if [23:18] this date and this date, and this email will show up. So if I write emails prior to our [23:20] this email will show up. So if I write emails prior to our [23:20] this email will show up. So if I write emails prior to our meetings, uh, you'll be able to [23:22] I write emails prior to our meetings, uh, you'll be able to [23:22] I write emails prior to our meetings, uh, you'll be able to get advance notice on my [23:23] meetings, uh, you'll be able to get advance notice on my [23:23] meetings, uh, you'll be able to get advance notice on my communication. Right? That's [23:26] get advance notice on my communication. Right? That's [23:26] get advance notice on my communication. Right? That's pretty cool, huh? Good way to [23:28] communication. Right? That's pretty cool, huh? Good way to [23:28] communication. Right? That's pretty cool, huh? Good way to circumvent the system and not [23:28] pretty cool, huh? Good way to circumvent the system and not [23:28] pretty cool, huh? Good way to circumvent the system and not be surprised when you show up [23:31] circumvent the system and not be surprised when you show up [23:31] circumvent the system and not be surprised when you show up at a meeting and they go, oh, [23:33] be surprised when you show up at a meeting and they go, oh, [23:33] be surprised when you show up at a meeting and they go, oh, well, we talked about this and [23:35] at a meeting and they go, oh, well, we talked about this and [23:35] at a meeting and they go, oh, well, we talked about this and you're like, yeah, I know. I [23:35] well, we talked about this and you're like, yeah, I know. I [23:36] well, we talked about this and you're like, yeah, I know. I already got it in my 10 days. [23:39] you're like, yeah, I know. I already got it in my 10 days. [23:39] you're like, yeah, I know. I already got it in my 10 days. For my FOIA request, my public [23:40] already got it in my 10 days. For my FOIA request, my public [23:40] already got it in my 10 days. For my FOIA request, my public records request, it's different [23:41] For my FOIA request, my public records request, it's different [23:42] For my FOIA request, my public records request, it's different than FOIA, Massachusetts Public [23:44] records request, it's different than FOIA, Massachusetts Public [23:44] records request, it's different than FOIA, Massachusetts Public records law. Oh, there's a [23:44] than FOIA, Massachusetts Public records law. Oh, there's a [23:44] than FOIA, Massachusetts Public records law. Oh, there's a dispute for that, you know. [23:46] records law. Oh, there's a dispute for that, you know. [23:46] records law. Oh, there's a dispute for that, you know. Yeah. In town that the voters [23:51] dispute for that, you know. Yeah. In town that the voters [23:51] dispute for that, you know. Yeah. In town that the voters said that they want more [23:51] Yeah. In town that the voters said that they want more [23:52] Yeah. In town that the voters said that they want more information. And they said, [23:53] said that they want more information. And they said, [23:53] said that they want more information. And they said, we're not giving it. So anyways [23:58] information. And they said, we're not giving it. So anyways [23:58] information. And they said, we're not giving it. So anyways uh, back to the subject matter. [24:00] we're not giving it. So anyways uh, back to the subject matter. [24:00] we're not giving it. So anyways uh, back to the subject matter. The town manager, town council, [24:02] uh, back to the subject matter. The town manager, town council, [24:02] uh, back to the subject matter. The town manager, town council, the treasury collector, and the [24:03] The town manager, town council, the treasury collector, and the [24:03] The town manager, town council, the treasury collector, and the chair of the select board are [24:05] the treasury collector, and the chair of the select board are [24:05] the treasury collector, and the chair of the select board are copied deliberately. Several of [24:06] chair of the select board are copied deliberately. Several of [24:06] chair of the select board are copied deliberately. Several of the matters below are within [24:08] copied deliberately. Several of the matters below are within [24:08] copied deliberately. Several of the matters below are within their authority rather than the [24:09] the matters below are within their authority rather than the [24:09] the matters below are within their authority rather than the school committees. The [24:11] their authority rather than the school committees. The [24:11] their authority rather than the school committees. The commission asks that each of [24:13] school committees. The commission asks that each of [24:13] school committees. The commission asks that each of them answer in writing and [24:14] commission asks that each of them answer in writing and [24:14] commission asks that each of them answer in writing and before the joint meeting. The [24:16] them answer in writing and before the joint meeting. The [24:16] them answer in writing and before the joint meeting. The questions in this letter that [24:17] before the joint meeting. The questions in this letter that [24:17] before the joint meeting. The questions in this letter that fall within their respective [24:18] questions in this letter that fall within their respective [24:18] questions in this letter that fall within their respective offices. The town manager, 3 [24:23] fall within their respective offices. The town manager, 3 [24:23] fall within their respective offices. The town manager, 3 questions in section 8 here in [24:24] offices. The town manager, 3 questions in section 8 here in [24:24] offices. The town manager, 3 questions in section 8 here in the status of the financial [24:27] questions in section 8 here in the status of the financial [24:27] questions in section 8 here in the status of the financial policies manual. The treasurer [24:29] the status of the financial policies manual. The treasurer [24:29] the status of the financial policies manual. The treasurer would school accounts are and [24:31] policies manual. The treasurer would school accounts are and [24:31] policies manual. The treasurer would school accounts are and are not in her custody. Town [24:34] would school accounts are and are not in her custody. Town [24:34] would school accounts are and are not in her custody. Town council, where the town stands [24:34] are not in her custody. Town council, where the town stands [24:34] are not in her custody. Town council, where the town stands by the position that it does [24:36] council, where the town stands by the position that it does [24:36] council, where the town stands by the position that it does not handle these matters for [24:38] by the position that it does not handle these matters for [24:38] by the position that it does not handle these matters for the school department in light [24:39] not handle these matters for the school department in light [24:39] not handle these matters for the school department in light of the charter and statutes [24:41] the school department in light of the charter and statutes [24:41] the school department in light of the charter and statutes cited in Section 3. In the [24:44] of the charter and statutes cited in Section 3. In the [24:44] of the charter and statutes cited in Section 3. In the select board chair, whether the [24:45] cited in Section 3. In the select board chair, whether the [24:45] cited in Section 3. In the select board chair, whether the board will exercise its [24:47] select board chair, whether the board will exercise its [24:47] select board chair, whether the board will exercise its authority under Charter section [24:49] board will exercise its authority under Charter section [24:49] board will exercise its authority under Charter section 32E if the school department [24:50] authority under Charter section 32E if the school department [24:50] authority under Charter section 32E if the school department does not produce the [24:52] 32E if the school department does not produce the [24:52] 32E if the school department does not produce the instruments. The commission [24:56] does not produce the instruments. The commission [24:56] does not produce the instruments. The commission further asks that each of them [24:56] instruments. The commission further asks that each of them [24:57] instruments. The commission further asks that each of them attend the joint meeting. This [24:59] further asks that each of them attend the joint meeting. This [24:59] further asks that each of them attend the joint meeting. This is a corrective action, not a [25:00] attend the joint meeting. This is a corrective action, not a [25:01] attend the joint meeting. This is a corrective action, not a dispute, and it'll go faster [25:03] is a corrective action, not a dispute, and it'll go faster [25:03] is a corrective action, not a dispute, and it'll go faster with everyone who holds a piece [25:03] dispute, and it'll go faster with everyone who holds a piece [25:03] dispute, and it'll go faster with everyone who holds a piece of the answer all in the same [25:05] with everyone who holds a piece of the answer all in the same [25:05] with everyone who holds a piece of the answer all in the same room. Right? Nobody said it's a [25:07] of the answer all in the same room. Right? Nobody said it's a [25:07] of the answer all in the same room. Right? Nobody said it's a kumbaya session. You know, The [25:12] room. Right? Nobody said it's a kumbaya session. You know, The [25:13] room. Right? Nobody said it's a kumbaya session. You know, The commission has been trying to [25:15] kumbaya session. You know, The commission has been trying to [25:15] kumbaya session. You know, The commission has been trying to bring about this correction for [25:15] commission has been trying to bring about this correction for [25:15] commission has been trying to bring about this correction for a year. First raised the school [25:17] bring about this correction for a year. First raised the school [25:17] bring about this correction for a year. First raised the school department scholarship and [25:18] a year. First raised the school department scholarship and [25:18] a year. First raised the school department scholarship and trust accounts in the fall of [25:21] department scholarship and trust accounts in the fall of [25:21] department scholarship and trust accounts in the fall of 2025. Since then, it has been [25:23] trust accounts in the fall of 2025. Since then, it has been [25:23] trust accounts in the fall of 2025. Since then, it has been told by the town that the [25:24] 2025. Since then, it has been told by the town that the [25:24] 2025. Since then, it has been told by the town that the school handles these matters by [25:25] told by the town that the school handles these matters by [25:25] told by the town that the school handles these matters by the school that it is [25:26] school handles these matters by the school that it is [25:26] school handles these matters by the school that it is consulting its attorney, and by [25:28] the school that it is consulting its attorney, and by [25:28] the school that it is consulting its attorney, and by the treasurer that she cannot [25:30] consulting its attorney, and by the treasurer that she cannot [25:30] consulting its attorney, and by the treasurer that she cannot tell what the accounts are. And [25:32] the treasurer that she cannot tell what the accounts are. And [25:33] the treasurer that she cannot tell what the accounts are. And that's Strange. No one has [25:37] tell what the accounts are. And that's Strange. No one has [25:37] tell what the accounts are. And that's Strange. No one has produced a document. Charitable [25:39] that's Strange. No one has produced a document. Charitable [25:39] that's Strange. No one has produced a document. Charitable funds given for students in [25:40] produced a document. Charitable funds given for students in [25:41] produced a document. Charitable funds given for students in this town are being held and in [25:41] funds given for students in this town are being held and in [25:41] funds given for students in this town are being held and in some cases paid out outside the [25:43] this town are being held and in some cases paid out outside the [25:43] this town are being held and in some cases paid out outside the process, the statutes, the [25:45] some cases paid out outside the process, the statutes, the [25:45] some cases paid out outside the process, the statutes, the charter, and the school [25:46] process, the statutes, the charter, and the school [25:46] process, the statutes, the charter, and the school committee's own policies [25:48] charter, and the school committee's own policies [25:48] charter, and the school committee's own policies require. And the response from [25:50] committee's own policies require. And the response from [25:50] committee's own policies require. And the response from every direction has been to [25:52] require. And the response from every direction has been to [25:52] require. And the response from every direction has been to point elsewhere. That has is [25:53] every direction has been to point elsewhere. That has is [25:53] every direction has been to point elsewhere. That has is gone long enough for us. The [25:55] point elsewhere. That has is gone long enough for us. The [25:55] point elsewhere. That has is gone long enough for us. The commission is asking in this [25:57] gone long enough for us. The commission is asking in this [25:57] gone long enough for us. The commission is asking in this letter for the process to be [25:59] commission is asking in this letter for the process to be [25:59] commission is asking in this letter for the process to be corrected by the officers who [25:59] letter for the process to be corrected by the officers who [25:59] letter for the process to be corrected by the officers who have the legal authority to [26:01] corrected by the officers who have the legal authority to [26:01] corrected by the officers who have the legal authority to correct it on the record and [26:02] have the legal authority to correct it on the record and [26:02] have the legal authority to correct it on the record and beginning now. Thank you for [26:06] correct it on the record and beginning now. Thank you for [26:06] correct it on the record and beginning now. Thank you for your reply of September 4th. [26:10] beginning now. Thank you for your reply of September 4th. [26:10] beginning now. Thank you for your reply of September 4th. Which was, I'll talk to my [26:11] your reply of September 4th. Which was, I'll talk to my [26:11] your reply of September 4th. Which was, I'll talk to my attorney. I answered only thank [26:13] Which was, I'll talk to my attorney. I answered only thank [26:13] Which was, I'll talk to my attorney. I answered only thank you that day. This is the [26:17] attorney. I answered only thank you that day. This is the [26:17] attorney. I answered only thank you that day. This is the fuller response with the [26:17] you that day. This is the fuller response with the [26:17] you that day. This is the fuller response with the governing authorities so that [26:19] fuller response with the governing authorities so that [26:19] fuller response with the governing authorities so that there is no uncertainty about [26:20] governing authorities so that there is no uncertainty about [26:20] governing authorities so that there is no uncertainty about what the commission is asking [26:22] there is no uncertainty about what the commission is asking [26:22] there is no uncertainty about what the commission is asking for, why it is entitled to ask [26:24] what the commission is asking for, why it is entitled to ask [26:24] what the commission is asking for, why it is entitled to ask what the school committee [26:26] for, why it is entitled to ask what the school committee [26:26] for, why it is entitled to ask what the school committee already has and what remains [26:28] what the school committee already has and what remains [26:28] what the school committee already has and what remains for the town to answer. The [26:30] already has and what remains for the town to answer. The [26:30] already has and what remains for the town to answer. The authorities cited are the [26:31] for the town to answer. The authorities cited are the [26:31] for the town to answer. The authorities cited are the statutes, official guidance [26:34] authorities cited are the statutes, official guidance [26:35] authorities cited are the statutes, official guidance policies and reported decisions [26:35] statutes, official guidance policies and reported decisions [26:35] statutes, official guidance policies and reported decisions available to me and accessible [26:37] policies and reported decisions available to me and accessible [26:37] policies and reported decisions available to me and accessible to the commission at The [26:39] available to me and accessible to the commission at The [26:39] available to me and accessible to the commission at The commission does not have [26:40] to the commission at The commission does not have [26:40] to the commission at The commission does not have counsel and does not represent [26:42] commission does not have counsel and does not represent [26:42] commission does not have counsel and does not represent that this is an exhaustive [26:44] counsel and does not represent that this is an exhaustive [26:44] counsel and does not represent that this is an exhaustive statement of law. I want to be [26:46] that this is an exhaustive statement of law. I want to be [26:46] that this is an exhaustive statement of law. I want to be clear, What is being asked in [26:51] statement of law. I want to be clear, What is being asked in [26:51] statement of law. I want to be clear, What is being asked in the authority for asking. The [26:54] clear, What is being asked in the authority for asking. The [26:54] clear, What is being asked in the authority for asking. The commission requests for every [26:54] the authority for asking. The commission requests for every [26:54] the authority for asking. The commission requests for every scholarship or charitable fund [26:55] commission requests for every scholarship or charitable fund [26:55] commission requests for every scholarship or charitable fund held by the school department, [26:56] scholarship or charitable fund held by the school department, [26:56] scholarship or charitable fund held by the school department, whether or not it is presently [26:58] held by the school department, whether or not it is presently [26:58] held by the school department, whether or not it is presently carried under the town of [27:00] whether or not it is presently carried under the town of [27:00] whether or not it is presently carried under the town of Lunenburg's Federal employer [27:02] carried under the town of Lunenburg's Federal employer [27:02] carried under the town of Lunenburg's Federal employer identification number, A, the [27:04] Lunenburg's Federal employer identification number, A, the [27:04] Lunenburg's Federal employer identification number, A, the governing instrument, [27:05] identification number, A, the governing instrument, [27:05] identification number, A, the governing instrument, Declaration of Trust will [27:07] governing instrument, Declaration of Trust will [27:07] governing instrument, Declaration of Trust will expert, gift letter or other [27:09] Declaration of Trust will expert, gift letter or other [27:09] Declaration of Trust will expert, gift letter or other record of the donor's terms. B, [27:11] expert, gift letter or other record of the donor's terms. B, [27:11] expert, gift letter or other record of the donor's terms. B, the current account information [27:14] record of the donor's terms. B, the current account information [27:14] record of the donor's terms. B, the current account information and see for each account, the [27:16] the current account information and see for each account, the [27:16] the current account information and see for each account, the institution holding it, the tax [27:18] and see for each account, the institution holding it, the tax [27:18] and see for each account, the institution holding it, the tax identification number to which [27:19] institution holding it, the tax identification number to which [27:19] institution holding it, the tax identification number to which it is held. And the authorized [27:22] identification number to which it is held. And the authorized [27:22] identification number to which it is held. And the authorized signatories. The reason is [27:25] it is held. And the authorized signatories. The reason is [27:25] it is held. And the authorized signatories. The reason is classification and [27:26] signatories. The reason is classification and [27:26] signatories. The reason is classification and classification is the [27:29] classification and classification is the [27:29] classification and classification is the commission's statutory function [27:30] classification is the commission's statutory function [27:30] classification is the commission's statutory function Gender laws chapter 41, Section [27:33] commission's statutory function Gender laws chapter 41, Section [27:33] commission's statutory function Gender laws chapter 41, Section 45. That's what governs this [27:34] Gender laws chapter 41, Section 45. That's what governs this [27:34] Gender laws chapter 41, Section 45. That's what governs this commission provides that a [27:36] 45. That's what governs this commission provides that a [27:36] 45. That's what governs this commission provides that a board of commissioners of trust [27:36] commission provides that a board of commissioners of trust [27:37] commission provides that a board of commissioners of trust funds shall have the management [27:38] board of commissioners of trust funds shall have the management [27:38] board of commissioners of trust funds shall have the management of all trust funds given or [27:40] funds shall have the management of all trust funds given or [27:40] funds shall have the management of all trust funds given or bequeathed for the benefit of [27:41] of all trust funds given or bequeathed for the benefit of [27:41] of all trust funds given or bequeathed for the benefit of the town or the inhabitants [27:43] bequeathed for the benefit of the town or the inhabitants [27:43] bequeathed for the benefit of the town or the inhabitants thereof, unless the donor in [27:45] the town or the inhabitants thereof, unless the donor in [27:45] the town or the inhabitants thereof, unless the donor in making the gift or bequest [27:47] thereof, unless the donor in making the gift or bequest [27:47] thereof, unless the donor in making the gift or bequest shall otherwise provide. [27:49] making the gift or bequest shall otherwise provide. [27:49] making the gift or bequest shall otherwise provide. Section 47 directs the [27:51] shall otherwise provide. Section 47 directs the [27:51] shall otherwise provide. Section 47 directs the commissioners to manage and [27:52] Section 47 directs the commissioners to manage and [27:52] Section 47 directs the commissioners to manage and control the same and distribute [27:54] commissioners to manage and control the same and distribute [27:54] commissioners to manage and control the same and distribute the income in accordance with [27:56] control the same and distribute the income in accordance with [27:56] control the same and distribute the income in accordance with the terms of their respective [27:57] the income in accordance with the terms of their respective [27:57] the income in accordance with the terms of their respective trusts. And to report annually [28:00] the terms of their respective trusts. And to report annually [28:00] the terms of their respective trusts. And to report annually to the town on every fund's [28:02] trusts. And to report annually to the town on every fund's [28:03] trusts. And to report annually to the town on every fund's investments, receipts, and [28:05] to the town on every fund's investments, receipts, and [28:05] to the town on every fund's investments, receipts, and disbursements. Charter section [28:07] investments, receipts, and disbursements. Charter section [28:07] investments, receipts, and disbursements. Charter section 311 repeats both duties whether [28:09] disbursements. Charter section 311 repeats both duties whether [28:09] disbursements. Charter section 311 repeats both duties whether a donor quote otherwise [28:12] 311 repeats both duties whether a donor quote otherwise [28:12] 311 repeats both duties whether a donor quote otherwise provided by giving to the [28:12] a donor quote otherwise provided by giving to the [28:12] a donor quote otherwise provided by giving to the school committee rather than to [28:14] provided by giving to the school committee rather than to [28:14] provided by giving to the school committee rather than to the town is a question answered [28:16] school committee rather than to the town is a question answered [28:16] school committee rather than to the town is a question answered only by that instrument. A fund [28:19] the town is a question answered only by that instrument. A fund [28:19] the town is a question answered only by that instrument. A fund given to the town in trust for [28:21] only by that instrument. A fund given to the town in trust for [28:21] only by that instrument. A fund given to the town in trust for students is the commission's to [28:23] given to the town in trust for students is the commission's to [28:23] given to the town in trust for students is the commission's to manage. A fund given to the [28:25] students is the commission's to manage. A fund given to the [28:25] students is the commission's to manage. A fund given to the school committee as a gift. Is [28:26] manage. A fund given to the school committee as a gift. Is [28:26] manage. A fund given to the school committee as a gift. Is the committees to accept an [28:28] school committee as a gift. Is the committees to accept an [28:28] school committee as a gift. Is the committees to accept an Spend under generalized chapter [28:30] the committees to accept an Spend under generalized chapter [28:30] the committees to accept an Spend under generalized chapter 71, Section 37A and chapter 44 [28:36] Spend under generalized chapter 71, Section 37A and chapter 44 [28:36] Spend under generalized chapter 71, Section 37A and chapter 44 53A. The account of fund sits [28:41] 71, Section 37A and chapter 44 53A. The account of fund sits [28:41] 71, Section 37A and chapter 44 53A. The account of fund sits in today does, the document [28:45] 53A. The account of fund sits in today does, the document [28:45] 53A. The account of fund sits in today does, the document does. The school department is [28:47] in today does, the document does. The school department is [28:47] in today does, the document does. The school department is the only party holding those [28:48] does. The school department is the only party holding those [28:48] does. The school department is the only party holding those documents. And the [28:50] the only party holding those documents. And the [28:50] the only party holding those documents. And the commissioning cannot make the [28:52] documents. And the commissioning cannot make the [28:52] documents. And the commissioning cannot make the annual report section 47 [28:54] commissioning cannot make the annual report section 47 [28:54] commissioning cannot make the annual report section 47 requires of it for funds it has [28:55] annual report section 47 requires of it for funds it has [28:55] annual report section 47 requires of it for funds it has never been shown. The [28:57] requires of it for funds it has never been shown. The [28:57] requires of it for funds it has never been shown. The commission claims nothing over [28:59] never been shown. The commission claims nothing over [28:59] never been shown. The commission claims nothing over any funds that proves on its [29:02] commission claims nothing over any funds that proves on its [29:02] commission claims nothing over any funds that proves on its instrument to be a gift to the [29:03] any funds that proves on its instrument to be a gift to the [29:03] any funds that proves on its instrument to be a gift to the school. Whether a fund is a [29:08] instrument to be a gift to the school. Whether a fund is a [29:08] instrument to be a gift to the school. Whether a fund is a gift to the school committee or [29:08] school. Whether a fund is a gift to the school committee or [29:09] school. Whether a fund is a gift to the school committee or a gift to the town, the law [29:11] gift to the school committee or a gift to the town, the law [29:11] gift to the school committee or a gift to the town, the law places custody in the same [29:13] a gift to the town, the law places custody in the same [29:13] a gift to the town, the law places custody in the same office. General Laws chapter 71 [29:17] places custody in the same office. General Laws chapter 71 [29:17] places custody in the same office. General Laws chapter 71 section 37A. Any amount so [29:19] office. General Laws chapter 71 section 37A. Any amount so [29:19] office. General Laws chapter 71 section 37A. Any amount so received by a school committee [29:20] section 37A. Any amount so received by a school committee [29:20] section 37A. Any amount so received by a school committee of a city or town shall be [29:24] received by a school committee of a city or town shall be [29:24] received by a school committee of a city or town shall be deposited with the treasurer of [29:25] of a city or town shall be deposited with the treasurer of [29:25] of a city or town shall be deposited with the treasurer of such city or town and held as a [29:28] deposited with the treasurer of such city or town and held as a [29:28] deposited with the treasurer of such city or town and held as a separate account and expended [29:30] such city or town and held as a separate account and expended [29:30] such city or town and held as a separate account and expended by said school committee [29:31] separate account and expended by said school committee [29:31] separate account and expended by said school committee without further appropriation. [29:33] by said school committee without further appropriation. [29:33] by said school committee without further appropriation. General Laws chapter 44, [29:37] without further appropriation. General Laws chapter 44, [29:37] without further appropriation. General Laws chapter 44, section 53A provides the same [29:39] General Laws chapter 44, section 53A provides the same [29:39] General Laws chapter 44, section 53A provides the same for gifts received by any [29:42] section 53A provides the same for gifts received by any [29:42] section 53A provides the same for gifts received by any officer or department. [29:44] for gifts received by any officer or department. [29:44] for gifts received by any officer or department. Generalized chapter 44 section [29:46] officer or department. Generalized chapter 44 section [29:46] officer or department. Generalized chapter 44 section 50T provides that money [29:48] Generalized chapter 44 section 50T provides that money [29:48] Generalized chapter 44 section 50T provides that money received by any department is [29:49] 50T provides that money received by any department is [29:49] 50T provides that money received by any department is paid to the treasurer. Unless a [29:53] received by any department is paid to the treasurer. Unless a [29:53] received by any department is paid to the treasurer. Unless a statute directs otherwise. [29:55] paid to the treasurer. Unless a statute directs otherwise. [29:55] paid to the treasurer. Unless a statute directs otherwise. Control of expenditure stays [29:57] statute directs otherwise. Control of expenditure stays [29:57] statute directs otherwise. Control of expenditure stays with the committee for its [30:00] Control of expenditure stays with the committee for its [30:00] Control of expenditure stays with the committee for its guests, custody does not. I [30:02] with the committee for its guests, custody does not. I [30:02] with the committee for its guests, custody does not. I just have to check Zoom. Sorry. [30:04] guests, custody does not. I just have to check Zoom. Sorry. [30:04] guests, custody does not. I just have to check Zoom. Sorry. I make sure I get everybody [30:05] just have to check Zoom. Sorry. I make sure I get everybody [30:05] just have to check Zoom. Sorry. I make sure I get everybody going. OK, nobody in. The [30:09] I make sure I get everybody going. OK, nobody in. The [30:09] I make sure I get everybody going. OK, nobody in. The school committee's own policies [30:11] going. OK, nobody in. The school committee's own policies [30:11] going. OK, nobody in. The school committee's own policies say the same thing. Policy 3406 [30:14] school committee's own policies say the same thing. Policy 3406 [30:14] school committee's own policies say the same thing. Policy 3406 depository of funds, says, and [30:16] say the same thing. Policy 3406 depository of funds, says, and [30:16] say the same thing. Policy 3406 depository of funds, says, and I quote, The town treasurer [30:18] depository of funds, says, and I quote, The town treasurer [30:18] depository of funds, says, and I quote, The town treasurer holds all funds designated for [30:20] I quote, The town treasurer holds all funds designated for [30:20] I quote, The town treasurer holds all funds designated for the school for school [30:21] holds all funds designated for the school for school [30:21] holds all funds designated for the school for school department expenditure and is [30:22] the school for school department expenditure and is [30:22] the school for school department expenditure and is the only authorized disburser [30:25] department expenditure and is the only authorized disburser [30:25] department expenditure and is the only authorized disburser of payment for the school [30:26] the only authorized disburser of payment for the school [30:26] the only authorized disburser of payment for the school system's bills and debts. The [30:29] of payment for the school system's bills and debts. The [30:29] of payment for the school system's bills and debts. The town treasurer signs all checks [30:30] system's bills and debts. The town treasurer signs all checks [30:30] system's bills and debts. The town treasurer signs all checks drawn against all school funds. [30:34] town treasurer signs all checks drawn against all school funds. [30:34] town treasurer signs all checks drawn against all school funds. Policy 3204, except Acceptance [30:37] drawn against all school funds. Policy 3204, except Acceptance [30:37] drawn against all school funds. Policy 3204, except Acceptance of gifts, grants, and bequests. [30:38] Policy 3204, except Acceptance of gifts, grants, and bequests. [30:39] Policy 3204, except Acceptance of gifts, grants, and bequests. It says, quote, pursuant to [30:40] of gifts, grants, and bequests. It says, quote, pursuant to [30:40] of gifts, grants, and bequests. It says, quote, pursuant to mass General Laws chapter 44, [30:44] It says, quote, pursuant to mass General Laws chapter 44, [30:45] It says, quote, pursuant to mass General Laws chapter 44, section 53A, all monetary gifts [30:45] mass General Laws chapter 44, section 53A, all monetary gifts [30:46] mass General Laws chapter 44, section 53A, all monetary gifts accepted by the school [30:47] section 53A, all monetary gifts accepted by the school [30:47] section 53A, all monetary gifts accepted by the school committee will be deposited [30:48] accepted by the school committee will be deposited [30:48] accepted by the school committee will be deposited with the town treasurer for [30:51] committee will be deposited with the town treasurer for [30:51] committee will be deposited with the town treasurer for school purposes. Policy 3201. [30:54] with the town treasurer for school purposes. Policy 3201. [30:54] with the town treasurer for school purposes. Policy 3201. Student activity accounts. [30:56] school purposes. Policy 3201. Student activity accounts. [30:56] school purposes. Policy 3201. Student activity accounts. Student activity monies are [30:58] Student activity accounts. Student activity monies are [30:58] Student activity accounts. Student activity monies are deposited via the town [30:59] Student activity monies are deposited via the town [30:59] Student activity monies are deposited via the town treasurer. End quote. And the [31:01] deposited via the town treasurer. End quote. And the [31:01] deposited via the town treasurer. End quote. And the only checking accounts the [31:03] treasurer. End quote. And the only checking accounts the [31:03] treasurer. End quote. And the only checking accounts the policies place in school hands [31:03] only checking accounts the policies place in school hands [31:04] only checking accounts the policies place in school hands of the principals, capped [31:07] policies place in school hands of the principals, capped [31:07] policies place in school hands of the principals, capped student activity accounts under [31:08] of the principals, capped student activity accounts under [31:08] of the principals, capped student activity accounts under Chapter 71, Section 47. No [31:10] student activity accounts under Chapter 71, Section 47. No [31:10] student activity accounts under Chapter 71, Section 47. No school committee policy [31:12] Chapter 71, Section 47. No school committee policy [31:12] Chapter 71, Section 47. No school committee policy authorizes the school [31:12] school committee policy authorizes the school [31:12] school committee policy authorizes the school department to hold any other [31:14] authorizes the school department to hold any other [31:14] authorizes the school department to hold any other fund outside the treasurer's [31:14] department to hold any other fund outside the treasurer's [31:14] department to hold any other fund outside the treasurer's custody. I don't know what you [31:19] fund outside the treasurer's custody. I don't know what you [31:19] fund outside the treasurer's custody. I don't know what you have to talk to your lawyer for [31:21] custody. I don't know what you have to talk to your lawyer for [31:21] custody. I don't know what you have to talk to your lawyer for It's in your policy. What makes [31:26] have to talk to your lawyer for It's in your policy. What makes [31:26] have to talk to your lawyer for It's in your policy. What makes it fun to trust rather than a [31:28] It's in your policy. What makes it fun to trust rather than a [31:28] It's in your policy. What makes it fun to trust rather than a gift and why the document [31:28] it fun to trust rather than a gift and why the document [31:28] it fun to trust rather than a gift and why the document decides it. OK, this is [31:31] gift and why the document decides it. OK, this is [31:31] gift and why the document decides it. OK, this is sometimes people have this [31:31] decides it. OK, this is sometimes people have this [31:31] decides it. OK, this is sometimes people have this computer, it doesn't say trust. [31:32] sometimes people have this computer, it doesn't say trust. [31:32] sometimes people have this computer, it doesn't say trust. It's not true. The distinction [31:34] computer, it doesn't say trust. It's not true. The distinction [31:35] computer, it doesn't say trust. It's not true. The distinction of the commission is asking the [31:36] It's not true. The distinction of the commission is asking the [31:36] It's not true. The distinction of the commission is asking the school committee to help draw [31:37] of the commission is asking the school committee to help draw [31:37] of the commission is asking the school committee to help draw see, to help us draw is defined [31:39] school committee to help draw see, to help us draw is defined [31:39] school committee to help draw see, to help us draw is defined by statute in the attorney [31:42] see, to help us draw is defined by statute in the attorney [31:42] see, to help us draw is defined by statute in the attorney general and the division of [31:42] by statute in the attorney general and the division of [31:42] by statute in the attorney general and the division of Local Services both stated in [31:44] general and the division of Local Services both stated in [31:44] general and the division of Local Services both stated in their own guidance. The [31:46] Local Services both stated in their own guidance. The [31:46] Local Services both stated in their own guidance. The statutory elements of a trust [31:48] their own guidance. The statutory elements of a trust [31:48] their own guidance. The statutory elements of a trust under the Massachusetts Uniform [31:50] statutory elements of a trust under the Massachusetts Uniform [31:50] statutory elements of a trust under the Massachusetts Uniform Trust Code. You've heard me say [31:50] under the Massachusetts Uniform Trust Code. You've heard me say [31:51] under the Massachusetts Uniform Trust Code. You've heard me say this before. General code 203E [31:55] Trust Code. You've heard me say this before. General code 203E [31:55] Trust Code. You've heard me say this before. General code 203E section 402A, a trust is [31:57] this before. General code 203E section 402A, a trust is [31:57] this before. General code 203E section 402A, a trust is created only if the settler, [31:58] section 402A, a trust is created only if the settler, [31:58] section 402A, a trust is created only if the settler, quote, indicates an intention [32:00] created only if the settler, quote, indicates an intention [32:00] created only if the settler, quote, indicates an intention to create the trust. Intention [32:04] quote, indicates an intention to create the trust. Intention [32:04] quote, indicates an intention to create the trust. Intention Unquote. The trust has a [32:06] to create the trust. Intention Unquote. The trust has a [32:06] to create the trust. Intention Unquote. The trust has a definite beneficiary or is a [32:08] Unquote. The trust has a definite beneficiary or is a [32:08] Unquote. The trust has a definite beneficiary or is a charitable trust in quote, the [32:10] definite beneficiary or is a charitable trust in quote, the [32:10] definite beneficiary or is a charitable trust in quote, the trustee has duties to perform. [32:13] charitable trust in quote, the trustee has duties to perform. [32:13] charitable trust in quote, the trustee has duties to perform. Unquote. No particular words [32:15] trustee has duties to perform. Unquote. No particular words [32:16] trustee has duties to perform. Unquote. No particular words are required. The word trust [32:19] Unquote. No particular words are required. The word trust [32:19] Unquote. No particular words are required. The word trust need not appear. What matters [32:22] are required. The word trust need not appear. What matters [32:22] are required. The word trust need not appear. What matters is whether the donor's [32:23] need not appear. What matters is whether the donor's [32:23] need not appear. What matters is whether the donor's instrument shows an intent that [32:24] is whether the donor's instrument shows an intent that [32:24] is whether the donor's instrument shows an intent that the property be held and [32:26] instrument shows an intent that the property be held and [32:26] instrument shows an intent that the property be held and administered over time for a [32:28] the property be held and administered over time for a [32:28] the property be held and administered over time for a purpose and imposes continuing [32:29] administered over time for a purpose and imposes continuing [32:29] administered over time for a purpose and imposes continuing duties on the holder to invest, [32:31] purpose and imposes continuing duties on the holder to invest, [32:31] purpose and imposes continuing duties on the holder to invest, to apply income, to select [32:33] duties on the holder to invest, to apply income, to select [32:33] duties on the holder to invest, to apply income, to select recipients by stated criteria [32:35] to apply income, to select recipients by stated criteria [32:35] to apply income, to select recipients by stated criteria to preserve principle. A [32:39] recipients by stated criteria to preserve principle. A [32:39] recipients by stated criteria to preserve principle. A scholarship fund whose [32:39] to preserve principle. A scholarship fund whose [32:39] to preserve principle. A scholarship fund whose instrument says the principle [32:40] scholarship fund whose instrument says the principle [32:40] scholarship fund whose instrument says the principle is to be held in the income [32:40] instrument says the principle is to be held in the income [32:40] instrument says the principle is to be held in the income awarded each year to a [32:42] is to be held in the income awarded each year to a [32:42] is to be held in the income awarded each year to a graduating senior meeting the [32:44] awarded each year to a graduating senior meeting the [32:44] awarded each year to a graduating senior meeting the donor's criteria has every [32:45] graduating senior meeting the donor's criteria has every [32:45] graduating senior meeting the donor's criteria has every element of section 402A. It is [32:48] donor's criteria has every element of section 402A. It is [32:48] donor's criteria has every element of section 402A. It is a trust whether or not the [32:49] element of section 402A. It is a trust whether or not the [32:49] element of section 402A. It is a trust whether or not the donor called it one. The the [32:51] a trust whether or not the donor called it one. The the [32:51] a trust whether or not the donor called it one. The the statutory definition of a [32:53] donor called it one. The the statutory definition of a [32:53] donor called it one. The the statutory definition of a restricted charitable fund held [32:54] statutory definition of a restricted charitable fund held [32:54] statutory definition of a restricted charitable fund held by a municipality just so if [32:56] restricted charitable fund held by a municipality just so if [32:56] restricted charitable fund held by a municipality just so if anybody just joined Zoom or [32:58] by a municipality just so if anybody just joined Zoom or [32:58] by a municipality just so if anybody just joined Zoom or came in or just reading along, [33:00] anybody just joined Zoom or came in or just reading along, [33:00] anybody just joined Zoom or came in or just reading along, we're reading an email that was [33:00] came in or just reading along, we're reading an email that was [33:00] came in or just reading along, we're reading an email that was recently sent to the school [33:02] we're reading an email that was recently sent to the school [33:02] we're reading an email that was recently sent to the school committee about us having a [33:03] recently sent to the school committee about us having a [33:03] recently sent to the school committee about us having a joint session. And, uh, other, [33:06] committee about us having a joint session. And, uh, other, [33:07] committee about us having a joint session. And, uh, other, uh, members, uh, of other [33:07] joint session. And, uh, other, uh, members, uh, of other [33:07] joint session. And, uh, other, uh, members, uh, of other boards, and, uh, the executive. [33:11] uh, members, uh, of other boards, and, uh, the executive. [33:11] uh, members, uh, of other boards, and, uh, the executive. The statutory deficit of a [33:13] boards, and, uh, the executive. The statutory deficit of a [33:13] boards, and, uh, the executive. The statutory deficit of a restricted charitable fund held [33:14] The statutory deficit of a restricted charitable fund held [33:14] The statutory deficit of a restricted charitable fund held by a municipality is under [33:16] restricted charitable fund held by a municipality is under [33:16] restricted charitable fund held by a municipality is under general laws chapter 180A, [33:18] by a municipality is under general laws chapter 180A, [33:18] by a municipality is under general laws chapter 180A, Section 1. It defines an [33:20] general laws chapter 180A, Section 1. It defines an [33:20] general laws chapter 180A, Section 1. It defines an institution to include a [33:20] Section 1. It defines an institution to include a [33:20] Section 1. It defines an institution to include a government or governmental [33:23] institution to include a government or governmental [33:23] institution to include a government or governmental subdivision agency or [33:25] government or governmental subdivision agency or [33:25] government or governmental subdivision agency or instrumentality to the extent [33:25] subdivision agency or instrumentality to the extent [33:25] subdivision agency or instrumentality to the extent that it holds funds exclusively [33:27] instrumentality to the extent that it holds funds exclusively [33:28] instrumentality to the extent that it holds funds exclusively for a charitable purpose, a [33:31] that it holds funds exclusively for a charitable purpose, a [33:31] that it holds funds exclusively for a charitable purpose, a gift instrument as quote, a [33:34] for a charitable purpose, a gift instrument as quote, a [33:34] for a charitable purpose, a gift instrument as quote, a record under which property is [33:34] gift instrument as quote, a record under which property is [33:34] gift instrument as quote, a record under which property is granted to, transferred, or to, [33:38] record under which property is granted to, transferred, or to, [33:38] record under which property is granted to, transferred, or to, uh, transferred to or held by [33:40] granted to, transferred, or to, uh, transferred to or held by [33:40] granted to, transferred, or to, uh, transferred to or held by an institution as an [33:40] uh, transferred to or held by an institution as an [33:40] uh, transferred to or held by an institution as an institutional fund. And an [33:43] an institution as an institutional fund. And an [33:43] an institution as an institutional fund. And an endowment fund as an [33:45] institutional fund. And an endowment fund as an [33:45] institutional fund. And an endowment fund as an institutional fund that under [33:45] endowment fund as an institutional fund that under [33:45] endowment fund as an institutional fund that under the terms of a gift instrument [33:47] institutional fund that under the terms of a gift instrument [33:48] institutional fund that under the terms of a gift instrument is not wholly expendable by the [33:50] the terms of a gift instrument is not wholly expendable by the [33:50] the terms of a gift instrument is not wholly expendable by the institution on a current basis. [33:52] is not wholly expendable by the institution on a current basis. [33:52] is not wholly expendable by the institution on a current basis. The Attorney General's [33:54] institution on a current basis. The Attorney General's [33:54] institution on a current basis. The Attorney General's published guidance on Chapter [33:56] The Attorney General's published guidance on Chapter [33:56] The Attorney General's published guidance on Chapter 188 states that whether a [33:58] published guidance on Chapter 188 states that whether a [33:58] published guidance on Chapter 188 states that whether a governmental subdivision [33:59] 188 states that whether a governmental subdivision [33:59] 188 states that whether a governmental subdivision qualifies as an institution, [33:59] governmental subdivision qualifies as an institution, [33:59] governmental subdivision qualifies as an institution, depends on whether or not it [34:01] qualifies as an institution, depends on whether or not it [34:01] qualifies as an institution, depends on whether or not it holds funds exclusively for [34:03] depends on whether or not it holds funds exclusively for [34:03] depends on whether or not it holds funds exclusively for charitable purpose, and that [34:05] holds funds exclusively for charitable purpose, and that [34:05] holds funds exclusively for charitable purpose, and that not all restricted funds are [34:07] charitable purpose, and that not all restricted funds are [34:07] charitable purpose, and that not all restricted funds are institutional funds. That's [34:08] not all restricted funds are institutional funds. That's [34:08] not all restricted funds are institutional funds. That's exactly the determination the [34:10] institutional funds. That's exactly the determination the [34:10] institutional funds. That's exactly the determination the commission must make for each [34:10] exactly the determination the commission must make for each [34:10] exactly the determination the commission must make for each fund the school holds, and the [34:12] commission must make for each fund the school holds, and the [34:12] commission must make for each fund the school holds, and the Attorney General's guidance [34:14] fund the school holds, and the Attorney General's guidance [34:14] fund the school holds, and the Attorney General's guidance makes it a determination that [34:16] Attorney General's guidance makes it a determination that [34:16] Attorney General's guidance makes it a determination that turns on that gift instrument. [34:18] makes it a determination that turns on that gift instrument. [34:18] makes it a determination that turns on that gift instrument. Now this is the good one. What [34:19] turns on that gift instrument. Now this is the good one. What [34:19] turns on that gift instrument. Now this is the good one. What is a gift? A gift under chapter [34:23] Now this is the good one. What is a gift? A gift under chapter [34:23] Now this is the good one. What is a gift? A gift under chapter 71, Section 37A of chapter 44, [34:26] is a gift? A gift under chapter 71, Section 37A of chapter 44, [34:26] is a gift? A gift under chapter 71, Section 37A of chapter 44, section 53A. Is money accepted [34:28] 71, Section 37A of chapter 44, section 53A. Is money accepted [34:28] 71, Section 37A of chapter 44, section 53A. Is money accepted to be spent for the donor's [34:30] section 53A. Is money accepted to be spent for the donor's [34:30] section 53A. Is money accepted to be spent for the donor's stated purpose. The division of [34:32] to be spent for the donor's stated purpose. The division of [34:32] to be spent for the donor's stated purpose. The division of Local Services guides on gifts [34:33] stated purpose. The division of Local Services guides on gifts [34:33] stated purpose. The division of Local Services guides on gifts describes the mechanics. Gift [34:35] Local Services guides on gifts describes the mechanics. Gift [34:35] Local Services guides on gifts describes the mechanics. Gift funds accredited to a separate [34:37] describes the mechanics. Gift funds accredited to a separate [34:37] describes the mechanics. Gift funds accredited to a separate gift account that the [34:39] funds accredited to a separate gift account that the [34:39] funds accredited to a separate gift account that the department may then spend [34:41] gift account that the department may then spend [34:41] gift account that the department may then spend without appropriation for the [34:42] department may then spend without appropriation for the [34:42] department may then spend without appropriation for the gifts intended purposes in [34:44] without appropriation for the gifts intended purposes in [34:44] without appropriation for the gifts intended purposes in quote interest belongs to the [34:46] gifts intended purposes in quote interest belongs to the [34:46] gifts intended purposes in quote interest belongs to the general fund unless the donor [34:48] quote interest belongs to the general fund unless the donor [34:48] quote interest belongs to the general fund unless the donor or granter has expressly [34:50] general fund unless the donor or granter has expressly [34:50] general fund unless the donor or granter has expressly specified in writing that it [34:52] or granter has expressly specified in writing that it [34:52] or granter has expressly specified in writing that it Remains with the gift. A gift [34:55] specified in writing that it Remains with the gift. A gift [34:55] specified in writing that it Remains with the gift. A gift is spent down purpose. It has [34:57] Remains with the gift. A gift is spent down purpose. It has [34:57] Remains with the gift. A gift is spent down purpose. It has no principle to preserve and no [35:01] is spent down purpose. It has no principle to preserve and no [35:01] is spent down purpose. It has no principle to preserve and no income stream to administer. [35:04] no principle to preserve and no income stream to administer. [35:04] no principle to preserve and no income stream to administer. The test applied to the [35:06] income stream to administer. The test applied to the [35:06] income stream to administer. The test applied to the committee's own record. This is [35:08] The test applied to the committee's own record. This is [35:08] The test applied to the committee's own record. This is the committee's own record. [35:09] committee's own record. This is the committee's own record. [35:09] committee's own record. This is the committee's own record. This is the school committee's [35:10] the committee's own record. This is the school committee's [35:10] the committee's own record. This is the school committee's own record from public record [35:11] This is the school committee's own record from public record [35:11] This is the school committee's own record from public record documentation. And from the [35:15] own record from public record documentation. And from the [35:15] own record from public record documentation. And from the review of uh meetings, uh, [35:16] documentation. And from the review of uh meetings, uh, [35:16] documentation. And from the review of uh meetings, uh, online. I said, your minutes of [35:20] review of uh meetings, uh, online. I said, your minutes of [35:20] review of uh meetings, uh, online. I said, your minutes of November 5, 2025, show the [35:22] online. I said, your minutes of November 5, 2025, show the [35:22] online. I said, your minutes of November 5, 2025, show the committee classifying correctly [35:24] November 5, 2025, show the committee classifying correctly [35:24] November 5, 2025, show the committee classifying correctly the James J. Larkin scholarship [35:26] committee classifying correctly the James J. Larkin scholarship [35:26] committee classifying correctly the James J. Larkin scholarship $500 this spring and $250 each [35:28] the James J. Larkin scholarship $500 this spring and $250 each [35:28] the James J. Larkin scholarship $500 this spring and $250 each year after was accepted and [35:29] $500 this spring and $250 each year after was accepted and [35:29] $500 this spring and $250 each year after was accepted and classified as a gift, an annual [35:31] year after was accepted and classified as a gift, an annual [35:31] year after was accepted and classified as a gift, an annual donation from a living donor [35:33] classified as a gift, an annual donation from a living donor [35:33] classified as a gift, an annual donation from a living donor spent as received. Your minutes [35:35] donation from a living donor spent as received. Your minutes [35:35] donation from a living donor spent as received. Your minutes of January 8, 2025 show the [35:37] spent as received. Your minutes of January 8, 2025 show the [35:37] spent as received. Your minutes of January 8, 2025 show the other kind. $15,000 accepted [35:40] of January 8, 2025 show the other kind. $15,000 accepted [35:40] of January 8, 2025 show the other kind. $15,000 accepted from an alumnus for a [35:43] other kind. $15,000 accepted from an alumnus for a [35:43] other kind. $15,000 accepted from an alumnus for a scholarship award to honor one [35:43] from an alumnus for a scholarship award to honor one [35:43] from an alumnus for a scholarship award to honor one of his former teachers. That's [35:44] scholarship award to honor one of his former teachers. That's [35:44] scholarship award to honor one of his former teachers. That's a quote. To be awarded to an [35:47] of his former teachers. That's a quote. To be awarded to an [35:47] of his former teachers. That's a quote. To be awarded to an athlete pursuing college. A [35:49] a quote. To be awarded to an athlete pursuing college. A [35:49] a quote. To be awarded to an athlete pursuing college. A fund with a donor, a purpose, [35:51] athlete pursuing college. A fund with a donor, a purpose, [35:52] athlete pursuing college. A fund with a donor, a purpose, criteria, and a principle to [35:53] fund with a donor, a purpose, criteria, and a principle to [35:53] fund with a donor, a purpose, criteria, and a principle to hold, which under section 402A [35:56] criteria, and a principle to hold, which under section 402A [35:56] criteria, and a principle to hold, which under section 402A is a trust, whatever the motion [35:58] hold, which under section 402A is a trust, whatever the motion [35:58] hold, which under section 402A is a trust, whatever the motion had called it at the time. I [35:58] is a trust, whatever the motion had called it at the time. I [35:58] is a trust, whatever the motion had called it at the time. I just want to be clear, folks. [36:02] had called it at the time. I just want to be clear, folks. [36:02] had called it at the time. I just want to be clear, folks. Your minutes of December 4th, [36:05] just want to be clear, folks. Your minutes of December 4th, [36:05] just want to be clear, folks. Your minutes of December 4th, 2024 show a third kind, a vote [36:07] Your minutes of December 4th, 2024 show a third kind, a vote [36:07] Your minutes of December 4th, 2024 show a third kind, a vote to close dormant student [36:09] 2024 show a third kind, a vote to close dormant student [36:09] 2024 show a third kind, a vote to close dormant student activity class accounts and [36:11] to close dormant student activity class accounts and [36:12] to close dormant student activity class accounts and transfer $5,154 to scholarship, [36:18] activity class accounts and transfer $5,154 to scholarship, [36:18] activity class accounts and transfer $5,154 to scholarship, a fund with no donor and no [36:21] transfer $5,154 to scholarship, a fund with no donor and no [36:21] transfer $5,154 to scholarship, a fund with no donor and no instrument at all. Three [36:25] a fund with no donor and no instrument at all. Three [36:25] a fund with no donor and no instrument at all. Three different things. All called [36:28] instrument at all. Three different things. All called [36:28] instrument at all. Three different things. All called scholarships. None of this can [36:30] different things. All called scholarships. None of this can [36:30] different things. All called scholarships. None of this can be determined from an account [36:31] scholarships. None of this can be determined from an account [36:31] scholarships. None of this can be determined from an account number or a tax ID. Only the [36:34] be determined from an account number or a tax ID. Only the [36:34] be determined from an account number or a tax ID. Only the document under which each fund [36:36] number or a tax ID. Only the document under which each fund [36:36] number or a tax ID. Only the document under which each fund was given can say which it is. [36:38] document under which each fund was given can say which it is. [36:38] document under which each fund was given can say which it is. And that's the whole of this [36:40] was given can say which it is. And that's the whole of this [36:40] was given can say which it is. And that's the whole of this commission's request. Number 3, [36:43] And that's the whole of this commission's request. Number 3, [36:43] And that's the whole of this commission's request. Number 3, the commission has been told by [36:45] commission's request. Number 3, the commission has been told by [36:45] commission's request. Number 3, the commission has been told by each side that the other is [36:45] the commission has been told by each side that the other is [36:46] the commission has been told by each side that the other is responsible for the charter and [36:47] each side that the other is responsible for the charter and [36:47] each side that the other is responsible for the charter and statute says otherwise. In [36:49] responsible for the charter and statute says otherwise. In [36:49] responsible for the charter and statute says otherwise. In August 26, 202405, a town [36:52] statute says otherwise. In August 26, 202405, a town [36:52] statute says otherwise. In August 26, 202405, a town council's legal office hours, I [36:54] August 26, 202405, a town council's legal office hours, I [36:54] August 26, 202405, a town council's legal office hours, I raised the question of monies [36:54] council's legal office hours, I raised the question of monies [36:55] council's legal office hours, I raised the question of monies held in trust by other boards [36:56] raised the question of monies held in trust by other boards [36:56] raised the question of monies held in trust by other boards and departments, including the [36:57] held in trust by other boards and departments, including the [36:57] held in trust by other boards and departments, including the school department. Town council [36:59] and departments, including the school department. Town council [36:59] and departments, including the school department. Town council told me that the town does not [36:59] school department. Town council told me that the town does not [36:59] school department. Town council told me that the town does not handle these matters for the [37:01] told me that the town does not handle these matters for the [37:01] told me that the town does not handle these matters for the school department. On April 27, [37:03] handle these matters for the school department. On April 27, [37:03] handle these matters for the school department. On April 27, 2026, town council wrote to the [37:05] school department. On April 27, 2026, town council wrote to the [37:05] school department. On April 27, 2026, town council wrote to the commission that the town [37:06] 2026, town council wrote to the commission that the town [37:06] 2026, town council wrote to the commission that the town manager's office has provided, [37:08] commission that the town manager's office has provided, [37:08] commission that the town manager's office has provided, will continue to provide access [37:10] manager's office has provided, will continue to provide access [37:10] manager's office has provided, will continue to provide access to all known records concerning [37:12] will continue to provide access to all known records concerning [37:12] will continue to provide access to all known records concerning funds within the jurisdiction [37:12] to all known records concerning funds within the jurisdiction [37:12] to all known records concerning funds within the jurisdiction of the trust. Fund commission [37:14] funds within the jurisdiction of the trust. Fund commission [37:14] funds within the jurisdiction of the trust. Fund commission that was in the chaplain letter [37:16] of the trust. Fund commission that was in the chaplain letter [37:16] of the trust. Fund commission that was in the chaplain letter The school department for its [37:17] that was in the chaplain letter The school department for its [37:17] that was in the chaplain letter The school department for its part, has said since October [37:21] The school department for its part, has said since October [37:21] The school department for its part, has said since October 2025, that it will consult its [37:22] part, has said since October 2025, that it will consult its [37:22] part, has said since October 2025, that it will consult its attorney. Both positions cannot [37:24] 2025, that it will consult its attorney. Both positions cannot [37:24] 2025, that it will consult its attorney. Both positions cannot be right. In these accounts [37:28] attorney. Both positions cannot be right. In these accounts [37:28] attorney. Both positions cannot be right. In these accounts exist regardless. The charter [37:30] be right. In these accounts exist regardless. The charter [37:30] be right. In these accounts exist regardless. The charter draws the line precisely. The [37:32] exist regardless. The charter draws the line precisely. The [37:32] exist regardless. The charter draws the line precisely. The school committee's autonomy is [37:33] draws the line precisely. The school committee's autonomy is [37:33] draws the line precisely. The school committee's autonomy is over educational policy, [37:35] school committee's autonomy is over educational policy, [37:35] school committee's autonomy is over educational policy, personnel, and how the [37:36] over educational policy, personnel, and how the [37:36] over educational policy, personnel, and how the appropriation is spent. Charter [37:39] personnel, and how the appropriation is spent. Charter [37:39] personnel, and how the appropriation is spent. Charter section 33B. Section 4-2EI. And [37:44] appropriation is spent. Charter section 33B. Section 4-2EI. And [37:44] appropriation is spent. Charter section 33B. Section 4-2EI. And L. Generalized chapter 71, [37:48] section 33B. Section 4-2EI. And L. Generalized chapter 71, [37:48] section 33B. Section 4-2EI. And L. Generalized chapter 71, section 34. The town's [37:50] L. Generalized chapter 71, section 34. The town's [37:50] L. Generalized chapter 71, section 34. The town's responsibility is custody and [37:52] section 34. The town's responsibility is custody and [37:52] section 34. The town's responsibility is custody and accounting. The town manager is [37:53] responsibility is custody and accounting. The town manager is [37:53] responsibility is custody and accounting. The town manager is quote, the chief financial [37:55] accounting. The town manager is quote, the chief financial [37:55] accounting. The town manager is quote, the chief financial officer for Old town agencies, [37:57] quote, the chief financial officer for Old town agencies, [37:57] quote, the chief financial officer for Old town agencies, unquote. And is charged with, [37:59] officer for Old town agencies, unquote. And is charged with, [37:59] officer for Old town agencies, unquote. And is charged with, quote, all the fiscal and [38:02] unquote. And is charged with, quote, all the fiscal and [38:02] unquote. And is charged with, quote, all the fiscal and financial business of the town, [38:02] quote, all the fiscal and financial business of the town, [38:03] quote, all the fiscal and financial business of the town, including the school department [38:05] financial business of the town, including the school department [38:05] financial business of the town, including the school department unquote. That's Charter section [38:06] including the school department unquote. That's Charter section [38:07] including the school department unquote. That's Charter section 4-2 and Section 4-2B. With the [38:10] unquote. That's Charter section 4-2 and Section 4-2B. With the [38:10] unquote. That's Charter section 4-2 and Section 4-2B. With the inventory of all town property, [38:13] 4-2 and Section 4-2B. With the inventory of all town property, [38:13] 4-2 and Section 4-2B. With the inventory of all town property, quote, including all property [38:13] inventory of all town property, quote, including all property [38:14] inventory of all town property, quote, including all property under the jurisdiction of the [38:15] quote, including all property under the jurisdiction of the [38:15] quote, including all property under the jurisdiction of the school committee. Unquote. [38:17] under the jurisdiction of the school committee. Unquote. [38:17] under the jurisdiction of the school committee. Unquote. That's section 42K and may [38:21] school committee. Unquote. That's section 42K and may [38:22] school committee. Unquote. That's section 42K and may quote inquire at any time into [38:24] That's section 42K and may quote inquire at any time into [38:24] That's section 42K and may quote inquire at any time into the conduct of office or [38:24] quote inquire at any time into the conduct of office or [38:24] quote inquire at any time into the conduct of office or performance of duties of any [38:27] the conduct of office or performance of duties of any [38:27] the conduct of office or performance of duties of any department, unquote. Section [38:31] performance of duties of any department, unquote. Section [38:31] performance of duties of any department, unquote. Section 4-20. The school committee [38:31] department, unquote. Section 4-20. The school committee [38:31] department, unquote. Section 4-20. The school committee itself is a town office under [38:33] 4-20. The school committee itself is a town office under [38:33] 4-20. The school committee itself is a town office under charter section 3-1A. Listed [38:36] itself is a town office under charter section 3-1A. Listed [38:36] itself is a town office under charter section 3-1A. Listed alongside the select board and [38:38] charter section 3-1A. Listed alongside the select board and [38:38] charter section 3-1A. Listed alongside the select board and this commission and is quote, [38:40] alongside the select board and this commission and is quote, [38:40] alongside the select board and this commission and is quote, subject to the call of the [38:42] this commission and is quote, subject to the call of the [38:42] this commission and is quote, subject to the call of the select board or of the town [38:43] subject to the call of the select board or of the town [38:43] subject to the call of the select board or of the town manager at all reasonable times [38:45] select board or of the town manager at all reasonable times [38:45] select board or of the town manager at all reasonable times for consultation. ation, [38:47] manager at all reasonable times for consultation. ation, [38:47] manager at all reasonable times for consultation. ation, conference, and discussion on [38:48] for consultation. ation, conference, and discussion on [38:49] for consultation. ation, conference, and discussion on any matter relating to their [38:51] conference, and discussion on any matter relating to their [38:51] conference, and discussion on any matter relating to their respective offices. Section 31E [38:54] any matter relating to their respective offices. Section 31E [38:54] any matter relating to their respective offices. Section 31E Your own policy we're talking, [38:56] respective offices. Section 31E Your own policy we're talking, [38:56] respective offices. Section 31E Your own policy we're talking, remember this is an email to [38:58] Your own policy we're talking, remember this is an email to [38:58] Your own policy we're talking, remember this is an email to the chairman of the school [38:58] remember this is an email to the chairman of the school [38:58] remember this is an email to the chairman of the school committee. Your own policy 6203 [39:02] the chairman of the school committee. Your own policy 6203 [39:02] the chairman of the school committee. Your own policy 6203 legal status cites General Laws [39:03] committee. Your own policy 6203 legal status cites General Laws [39:03] committee. Your own policy 6203 legal status cites General Laws chapter 41, section 1. The [39:06] legal status cites General Laws chapter 41, section 1. The [39:07] legal status cites General Laws chapter 41, section 1. The statute governing the election [39:07] chapter 41, section 1. The statute governing the election [39:07] chapter 41, section 1. The statute governing the election of town offices. The payment [39:11] statute governing the election of town offices. The payment [39:11] statute governing the election of town offices. The payment chain confirms it. Under [39:12] of town offices. The payment chain confirms it. Under [39:12] of town offices. The payment chain confirms it. Under General Laws chapter 41 section [39:14] chain confirms it. Under General Laws chapter 41 section [39:14] chain confirms it. Under General Laws chapter 41 section 56, the school committee [39:16] General Laws chapter 41 section 56, the school committee [39:16] General Laws chapter 41 section 56, the school committee approves its bills. The town [39:18] 56, the school committee approves its bills. The town [39:18] 56, the school committee approves its bills. The town accountant shall examine all [39:18] approves its bills. The town accountant shall examine all [39:18] approves its bills. The town accountant shall examine all such bills and shall draw a [39:20] accountant shall examine all such bills and shall draw a [39:21] accountant shall examine all such bills and shall draw a warrant upon the treasury. [39:22] such bills and shall draw a warrant upon the treasury. [39:22] such bills and shall draw a warrant upon the treasury. That's a quote and quote, The [39:24] warrant upon the treasury. That's a quote and quote, The [39:24] warrant upon the treasury. That's a quote and quote, The treasurer shall pay no money [39:25] That's a quote and quote, The treasurer shall pay no money [39:25] That's a quote and quote, The treasurer shall pay no money from the treasury except upon [39:27] treasurer shall pay no money from the treasury except upon [39:27] treasurer shall pay no money from the treasury except upon such warrant approved by the [39:28] from the treasury except upon such warrant approved by the [39:28] from the treasury except upon such warrant approved by the second one, unquote. And that's [39:30] such warrant approved by the second one, unquote. And that's [39:30] such warrant approved by the second one, unquote. And that's why the selectman got, uh, [39:32] second one, unquote. And that's why the selectman got, uh, [39:32] second one, unquote. And that's why the selectman got, uh, carbon copied on this because [39:34] why the selectman got, uh, carbon copied on this because [39:34] why the selectman got, uh, carbon copied on this because they've been paying the bills. [39:37] carbon copied on this because they've been paying the bills. [39:37] carbon copied on this because they've been paying the bills. Your minutes of March 18, 2026 [39:40] they've been paying the bills. Your minutes of March 18, 2026 [39:40] they've been paying the bills. Your minutes of March 18, 2026 showed the chain working on the [39:41] Your minutes of March 18, 2026 showed the chain working on the [39:41] Your minutes of March 18, 2026 showed the chain working on the Beth Curtis scholarship. You [39:45] showed the chain working on the Beth Curtis scholarship. You [39:45] showed the chain working on the Beth Curtis scholarship. You said, quote, town hall wants [39:47] Beth Curtis scholarship. You said, quote, town hall wants [39:47] Beth Curtis scholarship. You said, quote, town hall wants approval to pay this out, and [39:48] said, quote, town hall wants approval to pay this out, and [39:48] said, quote, town hall wants approval to pay this out, and we need your signatures for [39:50] approval to pay this out, and we need your signatures for [39:50] approval to pay this out, and we need your signatures for that to happen, unquote. [39:52] we need your signatures for that to happen, unquote. [39:52] we need your signatures for that to happen, unquote. They're doing it. But they want [39:54] that to happen, unquote. They're doing it. But they want [39:54] that to happen, unquote. They're doing it. But they want to talk to their lawyer. It [39:55] They're doing it. But they want to talk to their lawyer. It [39:55] They're doing it. But they want to talk to their lawyer. It gets better. Oh, it gets better [39:59] to talk to their lawyer. It gets better. Oh, it gets better [39:59] to talk to their lawyer. It gets better. Oh, it gets better It gets so much better. Why [40:01] gets better. Oh, it gets better It gets so much better. Why [40:01] gets better. Oh, it gets better It gets so much better. Why can't we all just get along? A [40:10] It gets so much better. Why can't we all just get along? A [40:10] It gets so much better. Why can't we all just get along? A scholarship account, the Beth [40:11] can't we all just get along? A scholarship account, the Beth [40:11] can't we all just get along? A scholarship account, the Beth Curtis scholarship paid from [40:12] scholarship account, the Beth Curtis scholarship paid from [40:12] scholarship account, the Beth Curtis scholarship paid from outside the treasurer, never [40:13] Curtis scholarship paid from outside the treasurer, never [40:13] Curtis scholarship paid from outside the treasurer, never enters that chain at all, OK? [40:16] outside the treasurer, never enters that chain at all, OK? [40:16] outside the treasurer, never enters that chain at all, OK? So, accountant accountant, [40:17] enters that chain at all, OK? So, accountant accountant, [40:18] enters that chain at all, OK? So, accountant accountant, certification that the payment [40:19] So, accountant accountant, certification that the payment [40:19] So, accountant accountant, certification that the payment matches the instrument. No [40:21] certification that the payment matches the instrument. No [40:21] certification that the payment matches the instrument. No select board signature, no [40:21] matches the instrument. No select board signature, no [40:21] matches the instrument. No select board signature, no treasury check. That is not an [40:24] select board signature, no treasury check. That is not an [40:24] select board signature, no treasury check. That is not an exercise of autonomy. It is [40:27] treasury check. That is not an exercise of autonomy. It is [40:27] treasury check. That is not an exercise of autonomy. It is money leaving the town's name [40:28] exercise of autonomy. It is money leaving the town's name [40:28] exercise of autonomy. It is money leaving the town's name without the town's signature. [40:29] money leaving the town's name without the town's signature. [40:29] money leaving the town's name without the town's signature. And it is a matter for the [40:30] without the town's signature. And it is a matter for the [40:31] without the town's signature. And it is a matter for the town's officers. Neither the [40:32] And it is a matter for the town's officers. Neither the [40:32] And it is a matter for the town's officers. Neither the town nor the school department [40:33] town's officers. Neither the town nor the school department [40:33] town's officers. Neither the town nor the school department can answer the commission's [40:35] town nor the school department can answer the commission's [40:35] town nor the school department can answer the commission's questions by pointing at the [40:37] can answer the commission's questions by pointing at the [40:37] can answer the commission's questions by pointing at the other, or it's the town. Oh, [40:39] questions by pointing at the other, or it's the town. Oh, [40:39] questions by pointing at the other, or it's the town. Oh, it's this. Oh, it's that. This [40:39] other, or it's the town. Oh, it's this. Oh, it's that. This [40:39] other, or it's the town. Oh, it's this. Oh, it's that. This is what we've been dealing with [40:40] it's this. Oh, it's that. This is what we've been dealing with [40:40] it's this. Oh, it's that. This is what we've been dealing with right? It's like, uh, it's like [40:42] is what we've been dealing with right? It's like, uh, it's like [40:42] is what we've been dealing with right? It's like, uh, it's like watching, uh, tennis. OK. So, [40:48] right? It's like, uh, it's like watching, uh, tennis. OK. So, [40:48] right? It's like, uh, it's like watching, uh, tennis. OK. So, the request has already been [40:49] watching, uh, tennis. OK. So, the request has already been [40:49] watching, uh, tennis. OK. So, the request has already been made formally and the committee [40:50] the request has already been made formally and the committee [40:50] the request has already been made formally and the committee already has its legal opinion. [40:55] made formally and the committee already has its legal opinion. [40:55] made formally and the committee already has its legal opinion. On March 27, 2026, I made a [40:57] already has its legal opinion. On March 27, 2026, I made a [40:57] already has its legal opinion. On March 27, 2026, I made a formal written demand to the [40:58] On March 27, 2026, I made a formal written demand to the [40:58] On March 27, 2026, I made a formal written demand to the superintendent for all [40:59] formal written demand to the superintendent for all [40:59] formal written demand to the superintendent for all scholarship declarations. You [41:00] superintendent for all scholarship declarations. You [41:00] superintendent for all scholarship declarations. You remember that we discussed that [41:02] scholarship declarations. You remember that we discussed that [41:02] scholarship declarations. You remember that we discussed that at this meeting. You can go [41:02] remember that we discussed that at this meeting. You can go [41:02] remember that we discussed that at this meeting. You can go back to March 27th, uh, uh, uh, [41:06] at this meeting. You can go back to March 27th, uh, uh, uh, [41:06] at this meeting. You can go back to March 27th, uh, uh, uh, meeting within that week. Uh, [41:09] back to March 27th, uh, uh, uh, meeting within that week. Uh, [41:09] back to March 27th, uh, uh, uh, meeting within that week. Uh, governing documents and account [41:09] meeting within that week. Uh, governing documents and account [41:10] meeting within that week. Uh, governing documents and account held by the school department. [41:11] governing documents and account held by the school department. [41:11] governing documents and account held by the school department. And I asked for a seven-day [41:13] held by the school department. And I asked for a seven-day [41:13] held by the school department. And I asked for a seven-day response period. Her reply of [41:15] And I asked for a seven-day response period. Her reply of [41:15] And I asked for a seven-day response period. Her reply of March 28th was that the school [41:16] response period. Her reply of March 28th was that the school [41:16] response period. Her reply of March 28th was that the school was working with the town on [41:17] March 28th was that the school was working with the town on [41:17] March 28th was that the school was working with the town on funds under the town's EIN. No [41:20] was working with the town on funds under the town's EIN. No [41:20] was working with the town on funds under the town's EIN. No documents followed. On April 9, [41:22] funds under the town's EIN. No documents followed. On April 9, [41:22] funds under the town's EIN. No documents followed. On April 9, 2026, the commission voted [41:24] documents followed. On April 9, 2026, the commission voted [41:24] documents followed. On April 9, 2026, the commission voted unanimously to send an addendum [41:27] 2026, the commission voted unanimously to send an addendum [41:27] 2026, the commission voted unanimously to send an addendum to its formal notice of [41:28] unanimously to send an addendum to its formal notice of [41:28] unanimously to send an addendum to its formal notice of fiduciary breach that we sent [41:29] to its formal notice of fiduciary breach that we sent [41:29] to its formal notice of fiduciary breach that we sent to the Attorney General'sdi [41:29] fiduciary breach that we sent to the Attorney General'sdi [41:30] fiduciary breach that we sent to the Attorney General'sdi Division of Public Charities [41:31] to the Attorney General'sdi Division of Public Charities [41:31] to the Attorney General'sdi Division of Public Charities mailed on, uh, April 10th, [41:33] Division of Public Charities mailed on, uh, April 10th, [41:33] Division of Public Charities mailed on, uh, April 10th, documenting the school [41:35] mailed on, uh, April 10th, documenting the school [41:35] mailed on, uh, April 10th, documenting the school department's continued [41:36] documenting the school department's continued [41:36] documenting the school department's continued non-production as further [41:37] department's continued non-production as further [41:37] department's continued non-production as further obstruction of the commission's [41:38] non-production as further obstruction of the commission's [41:38] non-production as further obstruction of the commission's statutory review. That went in [41:40] obstruction of the commission's statutory review. That went in [41:40] obstruction of the commission's statutory review. That went in with the breach notice that we [41:42] statutory review. That went in with the breach notice that we [41:42] statutory review. That went in with the breach notice that we sent where we are still in the [41:44] with the breach notice that we sent where we are still in the [41:44] with the breach notice that we sent where we are still in the midst of, uh, discussions with [41:47] sent where we are still in the midst of, uh, discussions with [41:47] sent where we are still in the midst of, uh, discussions with that office because the town [41:49] midst of, uh, discussions with that office because the town [41:49] midst of, uh, discussions with that office because the town still doesn't want to say yes, [41:51] that office because the town still doesn't want to say yes, [41:51] that office because the town still doesn't want to say yes, we are the trustee and [41:53] still doesn't want to say yes, we are the trustee and [41:53] still doesn't want to say yes, we are the trustee and fiduciary, even though So, you [41:54] we are the trustee and fiduciary, even though So, you [41:54] we are the trustee and fiduciary, even though So, you know, we've already determined [41:56] fiduciary, even though So, you know, we've already determined [41:56] fiduciary, even though So, you know, we've already determined the law says that. And the [41:56] know, we've already determined the law says that. And the [41:56] know, we've already determined the law says that. And the Attorney General agrees. So, so [42:00] the law says that. And the Attorney General agrees. So, so [42:00] the law says that. And the Attorney General agrees. So, so let's just leave that at that [42:02] Attorney General agrees. So, so let's just leave that at that [42:02] Attorney General agrees. So, so let's just leave that at that because we, we're, you know, We [42:04] let's just leave that at that because we, we're, you know, We [42:04] let's just leave that at that because we, we're, you know, We we found other avenues, but [42:05] because we, we're, you know, We we found other avenues, but [42:05] because we, we're, you know, We we found other avenues, but we're still not letting that go [42:07] we found other avenues, but we're still not letting that go [42:07] we found other avenues, but we're still not letting that go The town will admit that they [42:09] we're still not letting that go The town will admit that they [42:09] we're still not letting that go The town will admit that they are trustees. That's the goal. [42:10] The town will admit that they are trustees. That's the goal. [42:10] The town will admit that they are trustees. That's the goal. You are a trustee, admit it. [42:12] are trustees. That's the goal. You are a trustee, admit it. [42:12] are trustees. That's the goal. You are a trustee, admit it. Come right up and say it. And [42:14] You are a trustee, admit it. Come right up and say it. And [42:14] You are a trustee, admit it. Come right up and say it. And the whole breach notice is done [42:18] Come right up and say it. And the whole breach notice is done [42:18] Come right up and say it. And the whole breach notice is done Why? Because we found manners [42:21] the whole breach notice is done Why? Because we found manners [42:21] the whole breach notice is done Why? Because we found manners to be able to take care of [42:23] Why? Because we found manners to be able to take care of [42:23] Why? Because we found manners to be able to take care of other issues. Without segueing [42:25] to be able to take care of other issues. Without segueing [42:25] to be able to take care of other issues. Without segueing into something else. So anyways [42:27] other issues. Without segueing into something else. So anyways [42:27] other issues. Without segueing into something else. So anyways So, OK, so, So I'm gonna go [42:38] into something else. So anyways So, OK, so, So I'm gonna go [42:38] into something else. So anyways So, OK, so, So I'm gonna go back. So her reply to my train [42:39] So, OK, so, So I'm gonna go back. So her reply to my train [42:39] So, OK, so, So I'm gonna go back. So her reply to my train is that the school was working [42:40] back. So her reply to my train is that the school was working [42:41] back. So her reply to my train is that the school was working with the town on funds under [42:41] is that the school was working with the town on funds under [42:41] is that the school was working with the town on funds under the town's EIN. No documents [42:43] with the town on funds under the town's EIN. No documents [42:43] with the town on funds under the town's EIN. No documents followed. On April 9th, the [42:45] the town's EIN. No documents followed. On April 9th, the [42:45] the town's EIN. No documents followed. On April 9th, the commission voted unanimously to [42:46] followed. On April 9th, the commission voted unanimously to [42:46] followed. On April 9th, the commission voted unanimously to send an addendum to its formal [42:47] commission voted unanimously to send an addendum to its formal [42:47] commission voted unanimously to send an addendum to its formal notice of fiduciary breach the [42:48] send an addendum to its formal notice of fiduciary breach the [42:48] send an addendum to its formal notice of fiduciary breach the Attorney General's office that [42:50] notice of fiduciary breach the Attorney General's office that [42:50] notice of fiduciary breach the Attorney General's office that was mailed April 10th. [42:51] Attorney General's office that was mailed April 10th. [42:52] Attorney General's office that was mailed April 10th. Documenting the school [42:52] was mailed April 10th. Documenting the school [42:52] was mailed April 10th. Documenting the school department's continued [42:53] Documenting the school department's continued [42:53] Documenting the school department's continued non-production is further [42:54] department's continued non-production is further [42:54] department's continued non-production is further obstruction of the commission's [42:56] non-production is further obstruction of the commission's [42:56] non-production is further obstruction of the commission's statutory review. This is to [42:58] obstruction of the commission's statutory review. This is to [42:58] obstruction of the commission's statutory review. This is to the school committee chair, [42:59] statutory review. This is to the school committee chair, [42:59] statutory review. This is to the school committee chair, your minutes of April 15, 2026, [43:03] the school committee chair, your minutes of April 15, 2026, [43:03] the school committee chair, your minutes of April 15, 2026, item 9C record that the [43:05] your minutes of April 15, 2026, item 9C record that the [43:05] your minutes of April 15, 2026, item 9C record that the committee has been providing [43:06] item 9C record that the committee has been providing [43:06] item 9C record that the committee has been providing the legal opinion, unquote on [43:08] committee has been providing the legal opinion, unquote on [43:08] committee has been providing the legal opinion, unquote on scholarship, tax EINs and was [43:10] the legal opinion, unquote on scholarship, tax EINs and was [43:10] the legal opinion, unquote on scholarship, tax EINs and was quote, currently determining [43:13] scholarship, tax EINs and was quote, currently determining [43:13] scholarship, tax EINs and was quote, currently determining whose tax ID number all the [43:15] quote, currently determining whose tax ID number all the [43:15] quote, currently determining whose tax ID number all the scholarships are using, unquote [43:17] whose tax ID number all the scholarships are using, unquote [43:17] whose tax ID number all the scholarships are using, unquote 5 months later, identifying the [43:19] scholarships are using, unquote 5 months later, identifying the [43:19] scholarships are using, unquote 5 months later, identifying the instrument, institution, tax ID [43:21] 5 months later, identifying the instrument, institution, tax ID [43:21] 5 months later, identifying the instrument, institution, tax ID and signatories for each [43:23] instrument, institution, tax ID and signatories for each [43:23] instrument, institution, tax ID and signatories for each account is a bookkeeping task [43:24] and signatories for each account is a bookkeeping task [43:24] and signatories for each account is a bookkeeping task for the business office and the [43:26] account is a bookkeeping task for the business office and the [43:26] account is a bookkeeping task for the business office and the treasurer. Not a legal question [43:29] for the business office and the treasurer. Not a legal question [43:29] for the business office and the treasurer. Not a legal question The instruments of public [43:31] treasurer. Not a legal question The instruments of public [43:31] treasurer. Not a legal question The instruments of public records generalize Chapter 66 [43:32] The instruments of public records generalize Chapter 66 [43:32] The instruments of public records generalize Chapter 66 section 10. In the meeting [43:33] records generalize Chapter 66 section 10. In the meeting [43:33] records generalize Chapter 66 section 10. In the meeting requested is a public meeting [43:35] section 10. In the meeting requested is a public meeting [43:35] section 10. In the meeting requested is a public meeting of two public bodies under [43:37] requested is a public meeting of two public bodies under [43:37] requested is a public meeting of two public bodies under General Chapter 38, sections 18 [43:39] of two public bodies under General Chapter 38, sections 18 [43:39] of two public bodies under General Chapter 38, sections 18 through 25. Neither requires [43:41] General Chapter 38, sections 18 through 25. Neither requires [43:41] General Chapter 38, sections 18 through 25. Neither requires further advice of counsel to [43:42] through 25. Neither requires further advice of counsel to [43:42] through 25. Neither requires further advice of counsel to occur, so that the commission [43:44] further advice of counsel to occur, so that the commission [43:44] further advice of counsel to occur, so that the commission may correspond with the [43:45] occur, so that the commission may correspond with the [43:46] occur, so that the commission may correspond with the appropriate counsel directly, [43:46] may correspond with the appropriate counsel directly, [43:47] may correspond with the appropriate counsel directly, please identify the attorney or [43:48] appropriate counsel directly, please identify the attorney or [43:48] appropriate counsel directly, please identify the attorney or firm, the school committee is [43:50] please identify the attorney or firm, the school committee is [43:50] please identify the attorney or firm, the school committee is consulting on this matter. I'll [43:52] firm, the school committee is consulting on this matter. I'll [43:52] firm, the school committee is consulting on this matter. I'll call him myself. The governing [43:58] consulting on this matter. I'll call him myself. The governing [43:58] consulting on this matter. I'll call him myself. The governing case law. Here we go. You ready [44:02] call him myself. The governing case law. Here we go. You ready [44:02] call him myself. The governing case law. Here we go. You ready ? Gonna go right back to that [44:02] case law. Here we go. You ready ? Gonna go right back to that [44:02] case law. Here we go. You ready ? Gonna go right back to that case. A Massachusetts [44:06] ? Gonna go right back to that case. A Massachusetts [44:06] ? Gonna go right back to that case. A Massachusetts municipality that holds a [44:06] case. A Massachusetts municipality that holds a [44:06] case. A Massachusetts municipality that holds a charitable trust is a trustee [44:08] municipality that holds a charitable trust is a trustee [44:08] municipality that holds a charitable trust is a trustee in the full sense. And the [44:10] charitable trust is a trustee in the full sense. And the [44:10] charitable trust is a trustee in the full sense. And the Wwood School for Girls [44:11] in the full sense. And the Wwood School for Girls [44:11] in the full sense. And the Wwood School for Girls Incorporated versus City of [44:13] Wwood School for Girls Incorporated versus City of [44:13] Wwood School for Girls Incorporated versus City of Quincy. 469 mass Appeals Court. [44:15] Incorporated versus City of Quincy. 469 mass Appeals Court. [44:15] Incorporated versus City of Quincy. 469 mass Appeals Court. That's the book 151, 2014, [44:20] Quincy. 469 mass Appeals Court. That's the book 151, 2014, [44:20] Quincy. 469 mass Appeals Court. That's the book 151, 2014, that's the year 151 is the page [44:22] That's the book 151, 2014, that's the year 151 is the page [44:22] That's the book 151, 2014, that's the year 151 is the page The Supreme Judicial Court [44:24] that's the year 151 is the page The Supreme Judicial Court [44:24] that's the year 151 is the page The Supreme Judicial Court affirmed. Judgment against [44:27] The Supreme Judicial Court affirmed. Judgment against [44:27] The Supreme Judicial Court affirmed. Judgment against Quincy for breach of fiduciary [44:29] affirmed. Judgment against Quincy for breach of fiduciary [44:29] affirmed. Judgment against Quincy for breach of fiduciary duty and its removal as trustee [44:31] Quincy for breach of fiduciary duty and its removal as trustee [44:31] Quincy for breach of fiduciary duty and its removal as trustee in an action that began when [44:33] duty and its removal as trustee in an action that began when [44:33] duty and its removal as trustee in an action that began when the beneficiary requested an [44:33] in an action that began when the beneficiary requested an [44:33] in an action that began when the beneficiary requested an accounting in Quincy, which had [44:35] the beneficiary requested an accounting in Quincy, which had [44:35] the beneficiary requested an accounting in Quincy, which had quote, never previously [44:36] accounting in Quincy, which had quote, never previously [44:36] accounting in Quincy, which had quote, never previously provided an accounting of its [44:38] quote, never previously provided an accounting of its [44:38] quote, never previously provided an accounting of its stewardship of the funds, which [44:40] provided an accounting of its stewardship of the funds, which [44:40] provided an accounting of its stewardship of the funds, which can be found on page 56 note, [44:42] stewardship of the funds, which can be found on page 56 note, [44:42] stewardship of the funds, which can be found on page 56 note, not 156 note 9 of that decision [44:45] can be found on page 56 note, not 156 note 9 of that decision [44:45] can be found on page 56 note, not 156 note 9 of that decision produced only information. The [44:47] not 156 note 9 of that decision produced only information. The [44:47] not 156 note 9 of that decision produced only information. The court held that a trustee, [44:49] produced only information. The court held that a trustee, [44:49] produced only information. The court held that a trustee, quote, regardless of whether it [44:49] court held that a trustee, quote, regardless of whether it [44:50] court held that a trustee, quote, regardless of whether it is a municipality, unquote, is [44:53] quote, regardless of whether it is a municipality, unquote, is [44:53] quote, regardless of whether it is a municipality, unquote, is accountable to the courts for [44:54] is a municipality, unquote, is accountable to the courts for [44:54] is a municipality, unquote, is accountable to the courts for its fiduciary conduct. And that [44:56] accountable to the courts for its fiduciary conduct. And that [44:56] accountable to the courts for its fiduciary conduct. And that a municipality accepting a [44:58] its fiduciary conduct. And that a municipality accepting a [44:58] its fiduciary conduct. And that a municipality accepting a trusteeship quote will be held [45:00] a municipality accepting a trusteeship quote will be held [45:00] a municipality accepting a trusteeship quote will be held to the same standards and [45:00] trusteeship quote will be held to the same standards and [45:00] trusteeship quote will be held to the same standards and subject to the same penalties [45:02] to the same standards and subject to the same penalties [45:02] to the same standards and subject to the same penalties as any other trustee. Unquote. [45:07] subject to the same penalties as any other trustee. Unquote. [45:07] subject to the same penalties as any other trustee. Unquote. Uh, that can be found, uh, on [45:09] as any other trustee. Unquote. Uh, that can be found, uh, on [45:09] as any other trustee. Unquote. Uh, that can be found, uh, on page 177 of that decision. It [45:11] Uh, that can be found, uh, on page 177 of that decision. It [45:11] Uh, that can be found, uh, on page 177 of that decision. It rejected sovereign immunity. It [45:13] page 177 of that decision. It rejected sovereign immunity. It [45:14] page 177 of that decision. It rejected sovereign immunity. It said, quote, By choosing to [45:14] rejected sovereign immunity. It said, quote, By choosing to [45:14] rejected sovereign immunity. It said, quote, By choosing to accept the obligation of [45:16] said, quote, By choosing to accept the obligation of [45:16] said, quote, By choosing to accept the obligation of trusteeship. That means [45:16] accept the obligation of trusteeship. That means [45:17] accept the obligation of trusteeship. That means accepting the trust. Quincy [45:19] trusteeship. That means accepting the trust. Quincy [45:19] trusteeship. That means accepting the trust. Quincy waived any sovereign immunity. [45:22] accepting the trust. Quincy waived any sovereign immunity. [45:22] accepting the trust. Quincy waived any sovereign immunity. Unquote for claims arising from [45:23] waived any sovereign immunity. Unquote for claims arising from [45:23] waived any sovereign immunity. Unquote for claims arising from those duties, and that is also [45:25] Unquote for claims arising from those duties, and that is also [45:25] Unquote for claims arising from those duties, and that is also an in addition to what is found [45:27] those duties, and that is also an in addition to what is found [45:27] those duties, and that is also an in addition to what is found on page 177. The duties whose [45:30] an in addition to what is found on page 177. The duties whose [45:30] an in addition to what is found on page 177. The duties whose breach was affirmed and the [45:31] on page 177. The duties whose breach was affirmed and the [45:31] on page 177. The duties whose breach was affirmed and the duties at issue here. The trial [45:32] breach was affirmed and the duties at issue here. The trial [45:32] breach was affirmed and the duties at issue here. The trial judge found that Quincy failed [45:34] duties at issue here. The trial judge found that Quincy failed [45:34] duties at issue here. The trial judge found that Quincy failed to keep accurate records of its [45:36] judge found that Quincy failed to keep accurate records of its [45:36] judge found that Quincy failed to keep accurate records of its financial stewardship of the [45:37] to keep accurate records of its financial stewardship of the [45:37] to keep accurate records of its financial stewardship of the funds. That's at page 157. And [45:39] financial stewardship of the funds. That's at page 157. And [45:39] financial stewardship of the funds. That's at page 157. And the special master found [45:41] funds. That's at page 157. And the special master found [45:41] funds. That's at page 157. And the special master found breaches of those duties, which [45:43] the special master found breaches of those duties, which [45:43] the special master found breaches of those duties, which is, quote, to keep accurate [45:45] breaches of those duties, which is, quote, to keep accurate [45:45] breaches of those duties, which is, quote, to keep accurate records and provide reports. [45:46] is, quote, to keep accurate records and provide reports. [45:46] is, quote, to keep accurate records and provide reports. And to furnish information [45:48] records and provide reports. And to furnish information [45:48] records and provide reports. And to furnish information because Quincy did not provide [45:50] And to furnish information because Quincy did not provide [45:50] And to furnish information because Quincy did not provide an accounting when requested, [45:51] because Quincy did not provide an accounting when requested, [45:51] because Quincy did not provide an accounting when requested, quote, until ordered to do so [45:52] an accounting when requested, quote, until ordered to do so [45:52] an accounting when requested, quote, until ordered to do so by the court. So everything [45:54] quote, until ordered to do so by the court. So everything [45:54] quote, until ordered to do so by the court. So everything y'all want to keep trying to do [45:56] by the court. So everything y'all want to keep trying to do [45:56] by the court. So everything y'all want to keep trying to do it's already been done in the [45:58] y'all want to keep trying to do it's already been done in the [45:58] y'all want to keep trying to do it's already been done in the courts have already said you [45:59] it's already been done in the courts have already said you [45:59] it's already been done in the courts have already said you got to do it. So if you have a [46:01] courts have already said you got to do it. So if you have a [46:01] courts have already said you got to do it. So if you have a real attorney, he would say, [46:01] got to do it. So if you have a real attorney, he would say, [46:01] got to do it. So if you have a real attorney, he would say, you have to follow the law and [46:03] real attorney, he would say, you have to follow the law and [46:03] real attorney, he would say, you have to follow the law and not try to circumvent it, which [46:05] you have to follow the law and not try to circumvent it, which [46:05] you have to follow the law and not try to circumvent it, which is what I'm actually seeing [46:06] not try to circumvent it, which is what I'm actually seeing [46:06] not try to circumvent it, which is what I'm actually seeing here, I think, don't you? Well, [46:10] is what I'm actually seeing here, I think, don't you? Well, [46:10] is what I'm actually seeing here, I think, don't you? Well, kicking the can down the road. [46:12] here, I think, don't you? Well, kicking the can down the road. [46:12] here, I think, don't you? Well, kicking the can down the road. I'm asking about the attorney. [46:13] kicking the can down the road. I'm asking about the attorney. [46:13] kicking the can down the road. I'm asking about the attorney. What's your opinion? Yeah. What [46:15] I'm asking about the attorney. What's your opinion? Yeah. What [46:15] I'm asking about the attorney. What's your opinion? Yeah. What do you think? You think the [46:17] What's your opinion? Yeah. What do you think? You think the [46:17] What's your opinion? Yeah. What do you think? You think the attorney is not willing to [46:19] do you think? You think the attorney is not willing to [46:19] do you think? You think the attorney is not willing to follow the law. No, that's a [46:21] attorney is not willing to follow the law. No, that's a [46:21] attorney is not willing to follow the law. No, that's a board of bar overseers' [46:23] follow the law. No, that's a board of bar overseers' [46:23] follow the law. No, that's a board of bar overseers' complaint. I'm sorry. I would [46:24] board of bar overseers' complaint. I'm sorry. I would [46:24] board of bar overseers' complaint. I'm sorry. I would suspect he's familiar with the [46:26] complaint. I'm sorry. I would suspect he's familiar with the [46:26] complaint. I'm sorry. I would suspect he's familiar with the same. Oh, I'm familiar. I [46:26] suspect he's familiar with the same. Oh, I'm familiar. I [46:26] suspect he's familiar with the same. Oh, I'm familiar. I suspect he is too. I don't [46:28] same. Oh, I'm familiar. I suspect he is too. I don't [46:28] same. Oh, I'm familiar. I suspect he is too. I don't think he wants a report from [46:30] suspect he is too. I don't think he wants a report from [46:30] suspect he is too. I don't think he wants a report from this board up the chain. We [46:33] think he wants a report from this board up the chain. We [46:33] think he wants a report from this board up the chain. We could always take a vote of [46:33] this board up the chain. We could always take a vote of [46:33] this board up the chain. We could always take a vote of that if we think that, you know [46:35] could always take a vote of that if we think that, you know [46:35] could always take a vote of that if we think that, you know he's circumventing the law by [46:37] that if we think that, you know he's circumventing the law by [46:37] that if we think that, you know he's circumventing the law by interfering with our statutory [46:39] he's circumventing the law by interfering with our statutory [46:39] he's circumventing the law by interfering with our statutory authority as a result of the [46:40] interfering with our statutory authority as a result of the [46:40] interfering with our statutory authority as a result of the circumventing that law. We have [46:42] authority as a result of the circumventing that law. We have [46:42] authority as a result of the circumventing that law. We have all sorts of avenues we could [46:43] circumventing that law. We have all sorts of avenues we could [46:43] circumventing that law. We have all sorts of avenues we could take, Richard. And I don't [46:44] all sorts of avenues we could take, Richard. And I don't [46:44] all sorts of avenues we could take, Richard. And I don't think that anybody in this town [46:46] take, Richard. And I don't think that anybody in this town [46:46] take, Richard. And I don't think that anybody in this town is really starting to [46:48] think that anybody in this town is really starting to [46:48] think that anybody in this town is really starting to understand that, but I'm really [46:49] is really starting to understand that, but I'm really [46:49] is really starting to understand that, but I'm really getting tired of asking for [46:51] understand that, but I'm really getting tired of asking for [46:51] understand that, but I'm really getting tired of asking for stuff and being told in this [46:51] getting tired of asking for stuff and being told in this [46:51] getting tired of asking for stuff and being told in this commission, no, we're going to [46:53] stuff and being told in this commission, no, we're going to [46:53] stuff and being told in this commission, no, we're going to stop being told yes. Don't you [46:57] commission, no, we're going to stop being told yes. Don't you [46:57] commission, no, we're going to stop being told yes. Don't you agree? We're going to be, [46:58] stop being told yes. Don't you agree? We're going to be, [46:58] stop being told yes. Don't you agree? We're going to be, they're going to have to be [46:59] agree? We're going to be, they're going to have to be [46:59] agree? We're going to be, they're going to have to be held accountable. That's [47:01] they're going to have to be held accountable. That's [47:02] they're going to have to be held accountable. That's correct, but they keep turning [47:02] held accountable. That's correct, but they keep turning [47:02] held accountable. That's correct, but they keep turning to their lawyers. Well, then [47:04] correct, but they keep turning to their lawyers. Well, then [47:04] correct, but they keep turning to their lawyers. Well, then the lawyers need to be turned [47:06] to their lawyers. Well, then the lawyers need to be turned [47:06] to their lawyers. Well, then the lawyers need to be turned on. Why? Well, I want to know. [47:09] the lawyers need to be turned on. Why? Well, I want to know. [47:09] the lawyers need to be turned on. Why? Well, I want to know. That's a strategy of buying [47:10] on. Why? Well, I want to know. That's a strategy of buying [47:10] on. Why? Well, I want to know. That's a strategy of buying time, I guess. Well, your [47:11] That's a strategy of buying time, I guess. Well, your [47:11] That's a strategy of buying time, I guess. Well, your strategy is going bad because [47:13] time, I guess. Well, your strategy is going bad because [47:13] time, I guess. Well, your strategy is going bad because the next one I'm gonna bring up [47:13] strategy is going bad because the next one I'm gonna bring up [47:13] strategy is going bad because the next one I'm gonna bring up here is probably a complaint to [47:15] the next one I'm gonna bring up here is probably a complaint to [47:15] the next one I'm gonna bring up here is probably a complaint to the board of by our overseers [47:17] here is probably a complaint to the board of by our overseers [47:17] here is probably a complaint to the board of by our overseers about not following the law and [47:19] the board of by our overseers about not following the law and [47:19] the board of by our overseers about not following the law and being told by their client that [47:20] about not following the law and being told by their client that [47:20] about not following the law and being told by their client that they're not willing to follow [47:22] being told by their client that they're not willing to follow [47:22] being told by their client that they're not willing to follow the law. Lawyers don't want to [47:24] they're not willing to follow the law. Lawyers don't want to [47:24] they're not willing to follow the law. Lawyers don't want to talk to me. I didn't get an [47:26] the law. Lawyers don't want to talk to me. I didn't get an [47:26] the law. Lawyers don't want to talk to me. I didn't get an email from their lawyer. I [47:27] talk to me. I didn't get an email from their lawyer. I [47:27] talk to me. I didn't get an email from their lawyer. I asked this on September 4th. I [47:29] email from their lawyer. I asked this on September 4th. I [47:29] email from their lawyer. I asked this on September 4th. I still don't have an email for [47:29] asked this on September 4th. I still don't have an email for [47:29] asked this on September 4th. I still don't have an email for their lawyer. If you're gonna [47:38] still don't have an email for their lawyer. If you're gonna [47:38] still don't have an email for their lawyer. If you're gonna be a lawyer, Follow the law. [47:40] their lawyer. If you're gonna be a lawyer, Follow the law. [47:40] their lawyer. If you're gonna be a lawyer, Follow the law. That The oath that you the SJC. [47:56] be a lawyer, Follow the law. That The oath that you the SJC. [47:56] be a lawyer, Follow the law. That The oath that you the SJC. OK. So, it rejected sovereign [47:58] That The oath that you the SJC. OK. So, it rejected sovereign [47:58] That The oath that you the SJC. OK. So, it rejected sovereign immunity by choosing to accept [48:00] OK. So, it rejected sovereign immunity by choosing to accept [48:00] OK. So, it rejected sovereign immunity by choosing to accept the obligation to a seizure, [48:00] immunity by choosing to accept the obligation to a seizure, [48:01] immunity by choosing to accept the obligation to a seizure, Quincy waived any sovereign [48:02] the obligation to a seizure, Quincy waived any sovereign [48:02] the obligation to a seizure, Quincy waived any sovereign immunity claims arising from [48:03] Quincy waived any sovereign immunity claims arising from [48:03] Quincy waived any sovereign immunity claims arising from those duties. The duties to [48:04] immunity claims arising from those duties. The duties to [48:04] immunity claims arising from those duties. The duties to breach was affirmed and the [48:05] those duties. The duties to breach was affirmed and the [48:05] those duties. The duties to breach was affirmed and the duties at issue. The trial [48:07] breach was affirmed and the duties at issue. The trial [48:07] breach was affirmed and the duties at issue. The trial judge found that Quincy failed [48:07] duties at issue. The trial judge found that Quincy failed [48:07] duties at issue. The trial judge found that Quincy failed to keep the records of its [48:09] judge found that Quincy failed to keep the records of its [48:09] judge found that Quincy failed to keep the records of its financial stewardship of the [48:10] to keep the records of its financial stewardship of the [48:10] to keep the records of its financial stewardship of the funds and the special master [48:11] financial stewardship of the funds and the special master [48:12] financial stewardship of the funds and the special master found breaches of the duties to [48:12] funds and the special master found breaches of the duties to [48:12] funds and the special master found breaches of the duties to keep accurate records and [48:14] found breaches of the duties to keep accurate records and [48:14] found breaches of the duties to keep accurate records and provide reports and to furnish [48:16] keep accurate records and provide reports and to furnish [48:16] keep accurate records and provide reports and to furnish information because Quincy did [48:16] provide reports and to furnish information because Quincy did [48:16] provide reports and to furnish information because Quincy did not provide an accounting when [48:18] information because Quincy did not provide an accounting when [48:18] information because Quincy did not provide an accounting when it was requested until the [48:19] not provide an accounting when it was requested until the [48:19] not provide an accounting when it was requested until the court ordered it, the town [48:20] it was requested until the court ordered it, the town [48:20] it was requested until the court ordered it, the town treasurer, OK, that was on page [48:21] court ordered it, the town treasurer, OK, that was on page [48:21] court ordered it, the town treasurer, OK, that was on page 157 and note 10. On April 21st, [48:25] treasurer, OK, that was on page 157 and note 10. On April 21st, [48:25] treasurer, OK, that was on page 157 and note 10. On April 21st, 2026, the town Treasurer [48:28] 157 and note 10. On April 21st, 2026, the town Treasurer [48:28] 157 and note 10. On April 21st, 2026, the town Treasurer herself wrote to me that she [48:30] 2026, the town Treasurer herself wrote to me that she [48:30] 2026, the town Treasurer herself wrote to me that she could not tell. Whether the [48:32] herself wrote to me that she could not tell. Whether the [48:32] herself wrote to me that she could not tell. Whether the school's accounts are gifts or [48:36] could not tell. Whether the school's accounts are gifts or [48:36] could not tell. Whether the school's accounts are gifts or scholarships. The town [48:36] school's accounts are gifts or scholarships. The town [48:36] school's accounts are gifts or scholarships. The town treasurer, I have an email that [48:38] scholarships. The town treasurer, I have an email that [48:38] scholarships. The town treasurer, I have an email that says that. I go, that's a [48:39] treasurer, I have an email that says that. I go, that's a [48:39] treasurer, I have an email that says that. I go, that's a condition that Woodward [48:41] says that. I go, that's a condition that Woodward [48:41] says that. I go, that's a condition that Woodward describes. So, where's your [48:41] condition that Woodward describes. So, where's your [48:41] condition that Woodward describes. So, where's your lawyer? Where's your lawyer now [48:43] describes. So, where's your lawyer? Where's your lawyer now [48:43] describes. So, where's your lawyer? Where's your lawyer now ? That's what I want to ask. [48:46] lawyer? Where's your lawyer now ? That's what I want to ask. [48:46] lawyer? Where's your lawyer now ? That's what I want to ask. Where's your lawyer? Let's talk [48:49] ? That's what I want to ask. Where's your lawyer? Let's talk [48:49] ? That's what I want to ask. Where's your lawyer? Let's talk Let's sit down, have coffee. [48:52] Where's your lawyer? Let's talk Let's sit down, have coffee. [48:52] Where's your lawyer? Let's talk Let's sit down, have coffee. Have a joint meeting. Oh, we [48:54] Let's sit down, have coffee. Have a joint meeting. Oh, we [48:54] Let's sit down, have coffee. Have a joint meeting. Oh, we can have coffee at that. I'll [48:56] Have a joint meeting. Oh, we can have coffee at that. I'll [48:56] Have a joint meeting. Oh, we can have coffee at that. I'll buy it. Coffee and donuts. Well [48:57] can have coffee at that. I'll buy it. Coffee and donuts. Well [48:57] can have coffee at that. I'll buy it. Coffee and donuts. Well we'll get some, you know, Might [49:01] buy it. Coffee and donuts. Well we'll get some, you know, Might [49:01] buy it. Coffee and donuts. Well we'll get some, you know, Might skip the doughnuts. Coffee and [49:02] we'll get some, you know, Might skip the doughnuts. Coffee and [49:02] we'll get some, you know, Might skip the doughnuts. Coffee and salad. A salad bar, maybe. [49:06] skip the doughnuts. Coffee and salad. A salad bar, maybe. [49:06] skip the doughnuts. Coffee and salad. A salad bar, maybe. Right, but it's gonna have meat [49:07] salad. A salad bar, maybe. Right, but it's gonna have meat [49:07] salad. A salad bar, maybe. Right, but it's gonna have meat on it, you know what I mean? [49:08] Right, but it's gonna have meat on it, you know what I mean? [49:08] Right, but it's gonna have meat on it, you know what I mean? Like, you know, salami and ham [49:10] on it, you know what I mean? Like, you know, salami and ham [49:10] on it, you know what I mean? Like, you know, salami and ham and, you know, Italian fixing. [49:12] Like, you know, salami and ham and, you know, Italian fixing. [49:12] Like, you know, salami and ham and, you know, Italian fixing. Because I really like Italian [49:13] and, you know, Italian fixing. Because I really like Italian [49:13] and, you know, Italian fixing. Because I really like Italian subs. Even if it's not a salad [49:16] Because I really like Italian subs. Even if it's not a salad [49:16] Because I really like Italian subs. Even if it's not a salad bar, I can just do it on my [49:17] subs. Even if it's not a salad bar, I can just do it on my [49:17] subs. Even if it's not a salad bar, I can just do it on my plate, some, you know, bread [49:19] bar, I can just do it on my plate, some, you know, bread [49:19] bar, I can just do it on my plate, some, you know, bread and a little bit of oil, you [49:21] plate, some, you know, bread and a little bit of oil, you [49:22] plate, some, you know, bread and a little bit of oil, you know trust me. I'm waiting to [49:24] and a little bit of oil, you know trust me. I'm waiting to [49:24] and a little bit of oil, you know trust me. I'm waiting to have dinner. So, um, So that's [49:30] know trust me. I'm waiting to have dinner. So, um, So that's [49:30] know trust me. I'm waiting to have dinner. So, um, So that's the condition what we described [49:32] have dinner. So, um, So that's the condition what we described [49:32] have dinner. So, um, So that's the condition what we described and I have an email from the [49:33] the condition what we described and I have an email from the [49:33] the condition what we described and I have an email from the treasurer. OK. Consulting [49:37] and I have an email from the treasurer. OK. Consulting [49:37] and I have an email from the treasurer. OK. Consulting counsel is permitted. OK, the [49:40] treasurer. OK. Consulting counsel is permitted. OK, the [49:40] treasurer. OK. Consulting counsel is permitted. OK, the fiduciary judgment remains the [49:41] counsel is permitted. OK, the fiduciary judgment remains the [49:41] counsel is permitted. OK, the fiduciary judgment remains the trustees. Woodward holds that a [49:44] fiduciary judgment remains the trustees. Woodward holds that a [49:44] fiduciary judgment remains the trustees. Woodward holds that a trustee is permitted to consult [49:46] trustees. Woodward holds that a trustee is permitted to consult [49:46] trustees. Woodward holds that a trustee is permitted to consult with and receive advice from [49:49] trustee is permitted to consult with and receive advice from [49:49] trustee is permitted to consult with and receive advice from Professionals, OK? At 162, but [49:53] with and receive advice from Professionals, OK? At 162, but [49:53] with and receive advice from Professionals, OK? At 162, but we already determined that the [49:55] Professionals, OK? At 162, but we already determined that the [49:55] Professionals, OK? At 162, but we already determined that the school committee is not [49:57] we already determined that the school committee is not [49:57] we already determined that the school committee is not trustees over with, they're not [49:58] school committee is not trustees over with, they're not [49:58] school committee is not trustees over with, they're not trustees over, right? So that [50:00] trustees over with, they're not trustees over, right? So that [50:00] trustees over with, they're not trustees over, right? So that would make them holding [50:01] trustees over, right? So that would make them holding [50:01] trustees over, right? So that would make them holding something that they're not [50:02] would make them holding something that they're not [50:02] would make them holding something that they're not trustees over. OK, that's, uh, [50:05] something that they're not trustees over. OK, that's, uh, [50:05] something that they're not trustees over. OK, that's, uh, found on page 162. OK, but [50:08] trustees over. OK, that's, uh, found on page 162. OK, but [50:08] trustees over. OK, that's, uh, found on page 162. OK, but having obtained advice, OK, [50:09] found on page 162. OK, but having obtained advice, OK, [50:09] found on page 162. OK, but having obtained advice, OK, from their attorney, quote, [50:13] having obtained advice, OK, from their attorney, quote, [50:13] having obtained advice, OK, from their attorney, quote, must exercise independent, [50:13] from their attorney, quote, must exercise independent, [50:13] from their attorney, quote, must exercise independent, prudent, and impartial [50:15] must exercise independent, prudent, and impartial [50:15] must exercise independent, prudent, and impartial fiduciary judgment. You know [50:16] prudent, and impartial fiduciary judgment. You know [50:16] prudent, and impartial fiduciary judgment. You know what that says? That says that [50:18] fiduciary judgment. You know what that says? That says that [50:18] fiduciary judgment. You know what that says? That says that even if your lawyer said, do [50:22] what that says? That says that even if your lawyer said, do [50:22] what that says? That says that even if your lawyer said, do this, you are still, what did I [50:22] even if your lawyer said, do this, you are still, what did I [50:22] even if your lawyer said, do this, you are still, what did I say this board is held to? [50:24] this, you are still, what did I say this board is held to? [50:25] this, you are still, what did I say this board is held to? Personal what? Personal [50:27] say this board is held to? Personal what? Personal [50:27] say this board is held to? Personal what? Personal liability. I don't care if [50:29] Personal what? Personal liability. I don't care if [50:29] Personal what? Personal liability. I don't care if you're elected or not, OK. You [50:32] liability. I don't care if you're elected or not, OK. You [50:32] liability. I don't care if you're elected or not, OK. You need to exercise independent, [50:33] you're elected or not, OK. You need to exercise independent, [50:33] you're elected or not, OK. You need to exercise independent, prudent. An impartial fiduciary [50:36] need to exercise independent, prudent. An impartial fiduciary [50:36] need to exercise independent, prudent. An impartial fiduciary judgment, OK? That is a quoting [50:40] prudent. An impartial fiduciary judgment, OK? That is a quoting [50:40] prudent. An impartial fiduciary judgment, OK? That is a quoting uh, a restatement of trusts [50:43] judgment, OK? That is a quoting uh, a restatement of trusts [50:43] judgment, OK? That is a quoting uh, a restatement of trusts Section 80. So, um, Lawyer will [50:47] uh, a restatement of trusts Section 80. So, um, Lawyer will [50:47] uh, a restatement of trusts Section 80. So, um, Lawyer will know what he's reading with [50:48] Section 80. So, um, Lawyer will know what he's reading with [50:48] Section 80. So, um, Lawyer will know what he's reading with this, so, OK, this is the [50:51] know what he's reading with this, so, OK, this is the [50:51] know what he's reading with this, so, OK, this is the restatement of trust in Section [50:52] this, so, OK, this is the restatement of trust in Section [50:52] this, so, OK, this is the restatement of trust in Section 80. OK. Um, Because a rule [50:56] restatement of trust in Section 80. OK. Um, Because a rule [50:56] restatement of trust in Section 80. OK. Um, Because a rule requiring the trustee to follow [50:58] 80. OK. Um, Because a rule requiring the trustee to follow [50:58] 80. OK. Um, Because a rule requiring the trustee to follow advice, quote, would in effect [51:00] requiring the trustee to follow advice, quote, would in effect [51:00] requiring the trustee to follow advice, quote, would in effect mandate delegation of a [51:02] advice, quote, would in effect mandate delegation of a [51:02] advice, quote, would in effect mandate delegation of a trustee's fiduciary duty, which [51:04] mandate delegation of a trustee's fiduciary duty, which [51:04] mandate delegation of a trustee's fiduciary duty, which you can't, OK? And that can be [51:05] trustee's fiduciary duty, which you can't, OK? And that can be [51:05] trustee's fiduciary duty, which you can't, OK? And that can be found on page 163 of that law. [51:08] you can't, OK? And that can be found on page 163 of that law. [51:08] you can't, OK? And that can be found on page 163 of that law. I mean of that decision. That's [51:10] found on page 163 of that law. I mean of that decision. That's [51:10] found on page 163 of that law. I mean of that decision. That's what would School for Girls [51:11] I mean of that decision. That's what would School for Girls [51:11] I mean of that decision. That's what would School for Girls versus Quincy. OK, identifying [51:14] what would School for Girls versus Quincy. OK, identifying [51:14] what would School for Girls versus Quincy. OK, identifying what the committee holds in [51:14] versus Quincy. OK, identifying what the committee holds in [51:15] versus Quincy. OK, identifying what the committee holds in producing the instruments is [51:16] what the committee holds in producing the instruments is [51:16] what the committee holds in producing the instruments is the committees in the [51:17] producing the instruments is the committees in the [51:17] producing the instruments is the committees in the department's duty. It cannot be [51:18] the committees in the department's duty. It cannot be [51:18] the committees in the department's duty. It cannot be transferred to a lawyer. Am I [51:20] department's duty. It cannot be transferred to a lawyer. Am I [51:20] department's duty. It cannot be transferred to a lawyer. Am I clear? I don't think I'm, I'm [51:23] transferred to a lawyer. Am I clear? I don't think I'm, I'm [51:23] transferred to a lawyer. Am I clear? I don't think I'm, I'm any more clear than that, am I? [51:27] clear? I don't think I'm, I'm any more clear than that, am I? [51:27] clear? I don't think I'm, I'm any more clear than that, am I? Lawyer is not a trustee, is he? [51:30] any more clear than that, am I? Lawyer is not a trustee, is he? [51:30] any more clear than that, am I? Lawyer is not a trustee, is he? You're claiming you're the [51:30] Lawyer is not a trustee, is he? You're claiming you're the [51:30] Lawyer is not a trustee, is he? You're claiming you're the trustee, then sit at a table [51:32] You're claiming you're the trustee, then sit at a table [51:32] You're claiming you're the trustee, then sit at a table and act like one. That's my [51:34] trustee, then sit at a table and act like one. That's my [51:34] trustee, then sit at a table and act like one. That's my answer. Don't you think? I, [51:37] and act like one. That's my answer. Don't you think? I, [51:37] and act like one. That's my answer. Don't you think? I, that's how we get things done, [51:39] answer. Don't you think? I, that's how we get things done, [51:39] answer. Don't you think? I, that's how we get things done, right? Meetings of the minds, [51:41] that's how we get things done, right? Meetings of the minds, [51:41] that's how we get things done, right? Meetings of the minds, right? So you you throw a [51:41] right? Meetings of the minds, right? So you you throw a [51:41] right? Meetings of the minds, right? So you you throw a lawyer in it, it's no longer a [51:43] right? So you you throw a lawyer in it, it's no longer a [51:43] right? So you you throw a lawyer in it, it's no longer a meeting of the minds, it's a [51:44] lawyer in it, it's no longer a meeting of the minds, it's a [51:44] lawyer in it, it's no longer a meeting of the minds, it's a meeting of his mind. Right? So [51:46] meeting of the minds, it's a meeting of his mind. Right? So [51:46] meeting of the minds, it's a meeting of his mind. Right? So when I was a kid, I had this [51:47] meeting of his mind. Right? So when I was a kid, I had this [51:47] meeting of his mind. Right? So when I was a kid, I had this shirt that said, Legend in my [51:49] when I was a kid, I had this shirt that said, Legend in my [51:49] when I was a kid, I had this shirt that said, Legend in my own mind. You know my father, [51:50] shirt that said, Legend in my own mind. You know my father, [51:50] shirt that said, Legend in my own mind. You know my father, he gave me that? He says, [51:52] own mind. You know my father, he gave me that? He says, [51:52] own mind. You know my father, he gave me that? He says, because I could debate my way [51:53] he gave me that? He says, because I could debate my way [51:53] he gave me that? He says, because I could debate my way out of everything. That's what [51:54] because I could debate my way out of everything. That's what [51:55] because I could debate my way out of everything. That's what he said. He said, you're just [51:57] out of everything. That's what he said. He said, you're just [51:57] out of everything. That's what he said. He said, you're just like a lawyer, a legend in your [51:58] he said. He said, you're just like a lawyer, a legend in your [51:58] he said. He said, you're just like a lawyer, a legend in your own mind. That's exactly what [51:59] like a lawyer, a legend in your own mind. That's exactly what [52:00] like a lawyer, a legend in your own mind. That's exactly what he said to me. Priceless. It's [52:04] own mind. That's exactly what he said to me. Priceless. It's [52:04] own mind. That's exactly what he said to me. Priceless. It's 9 that registered with me for a [52:05] he said to me. Priceless. It's 9 that registered with me for a [52:06] he said to me. Priceless. It's 9 that registered with me for a Do you know what I mean? And I [52:07] 9 that registered with me for a Do you know what I mean? And I [52:07] 9 that registered with me for a Do you know what I mean? And I was like, wow, that was very [52:08] Do you know what I mean? And I was like, wow, that was very [52:08] Do you know what I mean? And I was like, wow, that was very humbling. You know, he said, [52:11] was like, wow, that was very humbling. You know, he said, [52:11] was like, wow, that was very humbling. You know, he said, complimented me at the same [52:12] humbling. You know, he said, complimented me at the same [52:12] humbling. You know, he said, complimented me at the same time and said, be a steward [52:13] complimented me at the same time and said, be a steward [52:13] complimented me at the same time and said, be a steward over it. Do you know what I'm [52:15] time and said, be a steward over it. Do you know what I'm [52:15] time and said, be a steward over it. Do you know what I'm saying? Good Catholic man, my [52:17] over it. Do you know what I'm saying? Good Catholic man, my [52:17] over it. Do you know what I'm saying? Good Catholic man, my father. Do you know what I mean [52:19] saying? Good Catholic man, my father. Do you know what I mean [52:19] saying? Good Catholic man, my father. Do you know what I mean ? Didn't always get along with [52:20] father. Do you know what I mean ? Didn't always get along with [52:20] father. Do you know what I mean ? Didn't always get along with him. No, he's dead now. So he [52:25] ? Didn't always get along with him. No, he's dead now. So he [52:25] ? Didn't always get along with him. No, he's dead now. So he died a couple of years ago. [52:28] him. No, he's dead now. So he died a couple of years ago. [52:28] him. No, he's dead now. So he died a couple of years ago. He's buried in the veterans [52:28] died a couple of years ago. He's buried in the veterans [52:28] died a couple of years ago. He's buried in the veterans cemetery up in Winchton. He was [52:33] He's buried in the veterans cemetery up in Winchton. He was [52:33] He's buried in the veterans cemetery up in Winchton. He was in the Air Force for years. All [52:37] cemetery up in Winchton. He was in the Air Force for years. All [52:37] cemetery up in Winchton. He was in the Air Force for years. All right, so, The private [52:40] in the Air Force for years. All right, so, The private [52:40] in the Air Force for years. All right, so, The private community scholarships are not [52:41] right, so, The private community scholarships are not [52:41] right, so, The private community scholarships are not at issue. So, Mr. Dion [52:43] community scholarships are not at issue. So, Mr. Dion [52:44] community scholarships are not at issue. So, Mr. Dion explained, I talked to Mr. Dion [52:44] at issue. So, Mr. Dion explained, I talked to Mr. Dion [52:44] at issue. So, Mr. Dion explained, I talked to Mr. Dion at the school on November 5, [52:46] explained, I talked to Mr. Dion at the school on November 5, [52:46] explained, I talked to Mr. Dion at the school on November 5, 2025, that most awards [52:48] at the school on November 5, 2025, that most awards [52:48] at the school on November 5, 2025, that most awards presented at scholarship, [52:49] 2025, that most awards presented at scholarship, [52:49] 2025, that most awards presented at scholarship, neither private donations paid [52:51] presented at scholarship, neither private donations paid [52:51] presented at scholarship, neither private donations paid for directly by the donor to [52:53] neither private donations paid for directly by the donor to [52:53] neither private donations paid for directly by the donor to the college. So those funds are [52:53] for directly by the donor to the college. So those funds are [52:54] for directly by the donor to the college. So those funds are never received by the school or [52:56] the college. So those funds are never received by the school or [52:56] the college. So those funds are never received by the school or the town, and they're not [52:57] never received by the school or the town, and they're not [52:57] never received by the school or the town, and they're not giving or bequeathed the [52:57] the town, and they're not giving or bequeathed the [52:58] the town, and they're not giving or bequeathed the benefit of the town or its [52:59] giving or bequeathed the benefit of the town or its [52:59] giving or bequeathed the benefit of the town or its inhabitants within Chapter 41, [53:02] benefit of the town or its inhabitants within Chapter 41, [53:02] benefit of the town or its inhabitants within Chapter 41, Section 45 in the commission, [53:03] inhabitants within Chapter 41, Section 45 in the commission, [53:03] inhabitants within Chapter 41, Section 45 in the commission, we're not asking about that, [53:04] Section 45 in the commission, we're not asking about that, [53:04] Section 45 in the commission, we're not asking about that, Jeff, uh, clarified that with [53:07] we're not asking about that, Jeff, uh, clarified that with [53:07] we're not asking about that, Jeff, uh, clarified that with me, uh, November of last year, [53:08] Jeff, uh, clarified that with me, uh, November of last year, [53:09] Jeff, uh, clarified that with me, uh, November of last year, he was like, oh, no, no, no. [53:10] me, uh, November of last year, he was like, oh, no, no, no. [53:10] me, uh, November of last year, he was like, oh, no, no, no. These people come and give this [53:11] he was like, oh, no, no, no. These people come and give this [53:11] he was like, oh, no, no, no. These people come and give this money away directly to the [53:13] These people come and give this money away directly to the [53:13] These people come and give this money away directly to the school. Like it's living people [53:15] money away directly to the school. Like it's living people [53:15] money away directly to the school. Like it's living people giving money, you know, yeah, [53:18] school. Like it's living people giving money, you know, yeah, [53:18] school. Like it's living people giving money, you know, yeah, it's not, it's not, uh, well, I [53:20] giving money, you know, yeah, it's not, it's not, uh, well, I [53:20] giving money, you know, yeah, it's not, it's not, uh, well, I use, you know, pull up, poor [53:22] it's not, it's not, uh, well, I use, you know, pull up, poor [53:22] it's not, it's not, uh, well, I use, you know, pull up, poor Deb and Peter Link keep using [53:24] use, you know, pull up, poor Deb and Peter Link keep using [53:24] use, you know, pull up, poor Deb and Peter Link keep using them ready. It's like them. [53:26] Deb and Peter Link keep using them ready. It's like them. [53:26] Deb and Peter Link keep using them ready. It's like them. They gave something, you know [53:27] them ready. It's like them. They gave something, you know [53:27] them ready. It's like them. They gave something, you know what I mean, to the uh senior [53:29] They gave something, you know what I mean, to the uh senior [53:29] They gave something, you know what I mean, to the uh senior center. Do you know what I'm [53:31] what I mean, to the uh senior center. Do you know what I'm [53:31] what I mean, to the uh senior center. Do you know what I'm saying? And you know, that's [53:34] center. Do you know what I'm saying? And you know, that's [53:34] center. Do you know what I'm saying? And you know, that's living people giving something, [53:36] saying? And you know, that's living people giving something, [53:36] saying? And you know, that's living people giving something, you know what I mean? Uh, and [53:38] living people giving something, you know what I mean? Uh, and [53:38] living people giving something, you know what I mean? Uh, and to be used immediately for that [53:40] you know what I mean? Uh, and to be used immediately for that [53:40] you know what I mean? Uh, and to be used immediately for that that it's just a gift, a gift. [53:41] to be used immediately for that that it's just a gift, a gift. [53:41] to be used immediately for that that it's just a gift, a gift. Do you know what I'm saying? [53:42] that it's just a gift, a gift. Do you know what I'm saying? [53:43] that it's just a gift, a gift. Do you know what I'm saying? Not a, not something that says, [53:44] Do you know what I'm saying? Not a, not something that says, [53:44] Do you know what I'm saying? Not a, not something that says, OK, and put this money aside so [53:45] Not a, not something that says, OK, and put this money aside so [53:45] Not a, not something that says, OK, and put this money aside so it can maintain it. That [53:46] OK, and put this money aside so it can maintain it. That [53:47] OK, and put this money aside so it can maintain it. That becomes a trust, right? You see [53:47] it can maintain it. That becomes a trust, right? You see [53:48] it can maintain it. That becomes a trust, right? You see my point? Do we have any idea? [53:49] becomes a trust, right? You see my point? Do we have any idea? [53:49] becomes a trust, right? You see my point? Do we have any idea? I mean, he does say most, but [53:52] my point? Do we have any idea? I mean, he does say most, but [53:52] my point? Do we have any idea? I mean, he does say most, but do we, do we know of uh how [53:53] I mean, he does say most, but do we, do we know of uh how [53:53] I mean, he does say most, but do we, do we know of uh how many? Well, no, so, well, [53:54] do we, do we know of uh how many? Well, no, so, well, [53:54] do we, do we know of uh how many? Well, no, so, well, there's like 50, 52 or 60 or [53:56] many? Well, no, so, well, there's like 50, 52 or 60 or [53:56] many? Well, no, so, well, there's like 50, 52 or 60 or something that they had on a [53:58] there's like 50, 52 or 60 or something that they had on a [53:58] there's like 50, 52 or 60 or something that they had on a list that he sent me and I was [53:59] something that they had on a list that he sent me and I was [53:59] something that they had on a list that he sent me and I was like, holy. crap. These are [54:01] list that he sent me and I was like, holy. crap. These are [54:01] list that he sent me and I was like, holy. crap. These are like, you know, what are these? [54:03] like, holy. crap. These are like, you know, what are these? [54:03] like, holy. crap. These are like, you know, what are these? And he, he kind of explained it [54:04] like, you know, what are these? And he, he kind of explained it [54:04] like, you know, what are these? And he, he kind of explained it but I don't know if all of them [54:05] And he, he kind of explained it but I don't know if all of them [54:05] And he, he kind of explained it but I don't know if all of them or some of them, you know, but, [54:07] but I don't know if all of them or some of them, you know, but, [54:07] but I don't know if all of them or some of them, you know, but, you know, uh, I don't know, [54:09] or some of them, you know, but, you know, uh, I don't know, [54:09] or some of them, you know, but, you know, uh, I don't know, maybe I'll go to this year's, [54:11] you know, uh, I don't know, maybe I'll go to this year's, [54:11] you know, uh, I don't know, maybe I'll go to this year's, uh, community scholarship [54:12] maybe I'll go to this year's, uh, community scholarship [54:12] maybe I'll go to this year's, uh, community scholarship awards because, uh, that is [54:14] uh, community scholarship awards because, uh, that is [54:14] uh, community scholarship awards because, uh, that is going to be a public event, I [54:16] awards because, uh, that is going to be a public event, I [54:16] awards because, uh, that is going to be a public event, I think, and I'll just if there's [54:16] going to be a public event, I think, and I'll just if there's [54:17] going to be a public event, I think, and I'll just if there's if there's 60, huh, if there's [54:19] think, and I'll just if there's if there's 60, huh, if there's [54:19] think, and I'll just if there's if there's 60, huh, if there's 60 total, and if he's saying [54:21] if there's 60, huh, if there's 60 total, and if he's saying [54:21] if there's 60, huh, if there's 60 total, and if he's saying most of it is most 45. Well, [54:23] 60 total, and if he's saying most of it is most 45. Well, [54:23] 60 total, and if he's saying most of it is most 45. Well, that's what I mean is that this [54:24] most of it is most 45. Well, that's what I mean is that this [54:24] most of it is most 45. Well, that's what I mean is that this is only 10 that are, yeah, I [54:25] that's what I mean is that this is only 10 that are, yeah, I [54:25] that's what I mean is that this is only 10 that are, yeah, I don't know if that's a semantic [54:27] is only 10 that are, yeah, I don't know if that's a semantic [54:27] is only 10 that are, yeah, I don't know if that's a semantic thing, just how he wrote it, [54:28] don't know if that's a semantic thing, just how he wrote it, [54:28] don't know if that's a semantic thing, just how he wrote it, like, you know, 3, yeah. But, [54:30] thing, just how he wrote it, like, you know, 3, yeah. But, [54:31] thing, just how he wrote it, like, you know, 3, yeah. But, but that's what I mean, and the [54:32] like, you know, 3, yeah. But, but that's what I mean, and the [54:32] like, you know, 3, yeah. But, but that's what I mean, and the thing is, is that he didn't [54:34] but that's what I mean, and the thing is, is that he didn't [54:34] but that's what I mean, and the thing is, is that he didn't clarify that completely. He did [54:34] thing is, is that he didn't clarify that completely. He did [54:35] thing is, is that he didn't clarify that completely. He did use the word most, but I don't [54:36] clarify that completely. He did use the word most, but I don't [54:36] clarify that completely. He did use the word most, but I don't want to like split hairs on [54:37] use the word most, but I don't want to like split hairs on [54:37] use the word most, but I don't want to like split hairs on semantics. That's for the [54:38] want to like split hairs on semantics. That's for the [54:39] want to like split hairs on semantics. That's for the school committee to take all of [54:39] semantics. That's for the school committee to take all of [54:39] semantics. That's for the school committee to take all of that and go, oh no, these are [54:41] school committee to take all of that and go, oh no, these are [54:41] school committee to take all of that and go, oh no, these are this. That's their job, not [54:43] that and go, oh no, these are this. That's their job, not [54:43] that and go, oh no, these are this. That's their job, not Jeff. Jeff is a counselor at [54:44] this. That's their job, not Jeff. Jeff is a counselor at [54:44] this. That's their job, not Jeff. Jeff is a counselor at the school, you know, in the [54:46] Jeff. Jeff is a counselor at the school, you know, in the [54:46] Jeff. Jeff is a counselor at the school, you know, in the counseling department for, you [54:46] the school, you know, in the counseling department for, you [54:46] the school, you know, in the counseling department for, you know, for the kids to, you know [54:48] counseling department for, you know, for the kids to, you know [54:48] counseling department for, you know, for the kids to, you know go to college and stuff. He's, [54:50] know, for the kids to, you know go to college and stuff. He's, [54:50] know, for the kids to, you know go to college and stuff. He's, you know, he's got nothing to [54:50] go to college and stuff. He's, you know, he's got nothing to [54:51] go to college and stuff. He's, you know, he's got nothing to do with the school committee. [54:52] you know, he's got nothing to do with the school committee. [54:52] you know, he's got nothing to do with the school committee. I'm just trying to get an idea [54:53] do with the school committee. I'm just trying to get an idea [54:53] do with the school committee. I'm just trying to get an idea of what, what's the magnitude [54:55] I'm just trying to get an idea of what, what's the magnitude [54:55] I'm just trying to get an idea of what, what's the magnitude of the gap between the [54:57] of what, what's the magnitude of the gap between the [54:57] of what, what's the magnitude of the gap between the committee is it 10 maybe that [54:59] of the gap between the committee is it 10 maybe that [54:59] of the gap between the committee is it 10 maybe that are this that's. The committee [55:01] committee is it 10 maybe that are this that's. The committee [55:01] committee is it 10 maybe that are this that's. The committee to answer properly, or is it 50 [55:04] are this that's. The committee to answer properly, or is it 50 [55:04] are this that's. The committee to answer properly, or is it 50 ? Is it that's the committee to [55:05] to answer properly, or is it 50 ? Is it that's the committee to [55:05] to answer properly, or is it 50 ? Is it that's the committee to answer if it's right. If I can [55:08] ? Is it that's the committee to answer if it's right. If I can [55:08] ? Is it that's the committee to answer if it's right. If I can say, well, of the 60 we get 48 [55:10] answer if it's right. If I can say, well, of the 60 we get 48 [55:10] answer if it's right. If I can say, well, of the 60 we get 48 that our are private. They had [55:13] say, well, of the 60 we get 48 that our are private. They had [55:13] say, well, of the 60 we get 48 that our are private. They had not falling within the [55:15] that our are private. They had not falling within the [55:15] that our are private. They had not falling within the definition of a trust at all [55:16] not falling within the definition of a trust at all [55:17] not falling within the definition of a trust at all because you pay directly. So [55:19] definition of a trust at all because you pay directly. So [55:19] definition of a trust at all because you pay directly. So there's really 12 that we kind [55:19] because you pay directly. So there's really 12 that we kind [55:19] because you pay directly. So there's really 12 that we kind of have to work through to [55:21] there's really 12 that we kind of have to work through to [55:21] there's really 12 that we kind of have to work through to understand. The declaration. [55:24] of have to work through to understand. The declaration. [55:24] of have to work through to understand. The declaration. That's correct. Do you, do you [55:26] understand. The declaration. That's correct. Do you, do you [55:26] understand. The declaration. That's correct. Do you, do you that's like, well, why is it [55:28] That's correct. Do you, do you that's like, well, why is it [55:28] That's correct. Do you, do you that's like, well, why is it taking so long to get clarity [55:30] that's like, well, why is it taking so long to get clarity [55:30] that's like, well, why is it taking so long to get clarity on 12. Items I can see getting [55:33] taking so long to get clarity on 12. Items I can see getting [55:33] taking so long to get clarity on 12. Items I can see getting clarity on 60. Takes a more [55:35] on 12. Items I can see getting clarity on 60. Takes a more [55:36] on 12. Items I can see getting clarity on 60. Takes a more time than 12. Well, they've had [55:37] clarity on 60. Takes a more time than 12. Well, they've had [55:37] clarity on 60. Takes a more time than 12. Well, they've had plenty of time. No, I'm just [55:39] time than 12. Well, they've had plenty of time. No, I'm just [55:39] time than 12. Well, they've had plenty of time. No, I'm just saying, right, but, but, but [55:41] plenty of time. No, I'm just saying, right, but, but, but [55:41] plenty of time. No, I'm just saying, right, but, but, but hear me out. You ready? So the [55:42] saying, right, but, but, but hear me out. You ready? So the [55:42] saying, right, but, but, but hear me out. You ready? So the clock did not start today. [55:44] hear me out. You ready? So the clock did not start today. [55:44] hear me out. You ready? So the clock did not start today. Let's just make that clear. [55:44] clock did not start today. Let's just make that clear. [55:44] clock did not start today. Let's just make that clear. Ready? The clock started over a [55:47] Let's just make that clear. Ready? The clock started over a [55:47] Let's just make that clear. Ready? The clock started over a year ago, OK. And we're not [55:50] Ready? The clock started over a year ago, OK. And we're not [55:50] Ready? The clock started over a year ago, OK. And we're not tolerating it anymore. You're [55:51] year ago, OK. And we're not tolerating it anymore. You're [55:51] year ago, OK. And we're not tolerating it anymore. You're going to go to the lawyer? I'm [55:53] tolerating it anymore. You're going to go to the lawyer? I'm [55:53] tolerating it anymore. You're going to go to the lawyer? I'm gonna say the lawyer has no [55:55] going to go to the lawyer? I'm gonna say the lawyer has no [55:55] going to go to the lawyer? I'm gonna say the lawyer has no fiduciary responsibility. I'm [55:57] gonna say the lawyer has no fiduciary responsibility. I'm [55:57] gonna say the lawyer has no fiduciary responsibility. I'm gonna contact the board of our [55:58] fiduciary responsibility. I'm gonna contact the board of our [55:58] fiduciary responsibility. I'm gonna contact the board of our overseers at our next meeting [55:59] gonna contact the board of our overseers at our next meeting [55:59] gonna contact the board of our overseers at our next meeting we'll vote on this. If we don't [56:00] overseers at our next meeting we'll vote on this. If we don't [56:00] overseers at our next meeting we'll vote on this. If we don't have a meeting with the school [56:02] we'll vote on this. If we don't have a meeting with the school [56:02] we'll vote on this. If we don't have a meeting with the school committee, and I'm going to sit [56:03] have a meeting with the school committee, and I'm going to sit [56:03] have a meeting with the school committee, and I'm going to sit there and request at our next [56:04] committee, and I'm going to sit there and request at our next [56:04] committee, and I'm going to sit there and request at our next meeting. That we write a letter [56:06] there and request at our next meeting. That we write a letter [56:06] there and request at our next meeting. That we write a letter to the board of our overseers [56:07] meeting. That we write a letter to the board of our overseers [56:07] meeting. That we write a letter to the board of our overseers about a lawyer's duties, OK, [56:09] to the board of our overseers about a lawyer's duties, OK, [56:09] to the board of our overseers about a lawyer's duties, OK, over the duties of a trustee, [56:12] about a lawyer's duties, OK, over the duties of a trustee, [56:12] about a lawyer's duties, OK, over the duties of a trustee, OK. And, and, uh, administering [56:16] over the duties of a trustee, OK. And, and, uh, administering [56:16] over the duties of a trustee, OK. And, and, uh, administering The legal parameters of trustee [56:18] OK. And, and, uh, administering The legal parameters of trustee [56:18] OK. And, and, uh, administering The legal parameters of trustee duties. You know how well that [56:20] The legal parameters of trustee duties. You know how well that [56:20] The legal parameters of trustee duties. You know how well that will go over with the board of [56:20] duties. You know how well that will go over with the board of [56:20] duties. You know how well that will go over with the board of our overseers. Not good at all. [56:22] will go over with the board of our overseers. Not good at all. [56:22] will go over with the board of our overseers. Not good at all. I just read the law to it. [56:24] our overseers. Not good at all. I just read the law to it. [56:24] our overseers. Not good at all. I just read the law to it. Right? It says that the [56:26] I just read the law to it. Right? It says that the [56:26] I just read the law to it. Right? It says that the fiduciary duty and [56:27] Right? It says that the fiduciary duty and [56:27] Right? It says that the fiduciary duty and responsibility comes down to [56:28] fiduciary duty and responsibility comes down to [56:28] fiduciary duty and responsibility comes down to the individual trustee [56:29] responsibility comes down to the individual trustee [56:29] responsibility comes down to the individual trustee regardless of what a lawyer [56:29] the individual trustee regardless of what a lawyer [56:30] the individual trustee regardless of what a lawyer says, and the lawyer does not [56:31] regardless of what a lawyer says, and the lawyer does not [56:31] regardless of what a lawyer says, and the lawyer does not answer for a trustee, period. [56:33] says, and the lawyer does not answer for a trustee, period. [56:33] says, and the lawyer does not answer for a trustee, period. It's in the, it's in the, it's [56:34] answer for a trustee, period. It's in the, it's in the, it's [56:34] answer for a trustee, period. It's in the, it's in the, it's in the decision from the SGC. [56:38] It's in the, it's in the, it's in the decision from the SGC. [56:38] It's in the, it's in the, it's in the decision from the SGC. OK. All right. It's like, you [56:40] in the decision from the SGC. OK. All right. It's like, you [56:40] in the decision from the SGC. OK. All right. It's like, you know, we can all just come by [56:41] OK. All right. It's like, you know, we can all just come by [56:41] OK. All right. It's like, you know, we can all just come by us, sit around the campfire and [56:43] know, we can all just come by us, sit around the campfire and [56:43] know, we can all just come by us, sit around the campfire and sing camp songs and tell ghost [56:45] us, sit around the campfire and sing camp songs and tell ghost [56:45] us, sit around the campfire and sing camp songs and tell ghost stories and hold the flashlight [56:45] sing camp songs and tell ghost stories and hold the flashlight [56:45] sing camp songs and tell ghost stories and hold the flashlight up under our chin, right? Or we [56:48] stories and hold the flashlight up under our chin, right? Or we [56:48] stories and hold the flashlight up under our chin, right? Or we can have another pissing [56:49] up under our chin, right? Or we can have another pissing [56:49] up under our chin, right? Or we can have another pissing contest. I, and I'm, you know [56:51] can have another pissing contest. I, and I'm, you know [56:51] can have another pissing contest. I, and I'm, you know what, OK, this is what this [56:52] contest. I, and I'm, you know what, OK, this is what this [56:52] contest. I, and I'm, you know what, OK, this is what this shows you the character of the [56:54] what, OK, this is what this shows you the character of the [56:54] what, OK, this is what this shows you the character of the people that you're dealing with [56:56] shows you the character of the people that you're dealing with [56:56] shows you the character of the people that you're dealing with This is what this shows, and I [56:56] people that you're dealing with This is what this shows, and I [56:56] people that you're dealing with This is what this shows, and I don't think people really [56:58] This is what this shows, and I don't think people really [56:58] This is what this shows, and I don't think people really understand that, and I'm gonna [56:59] don't think people really understand that, and I'm gonna [56:59] don't think people really understand that, and I'm gonna call it out, right? You all [57:00] understand that, and I'm gonna call it out, right? You all [57:00] understand that, and I'm gonna call it out, right? You all want to talk about my character [57:03] call it out, right? You all want to talk about my character [57:03] call it out, right? You all want to talk about my character ? Look, you're manipulating [57:03] want to talk about my character ? Look, you're manipulating [57:03] want to talk about my character ? Look, you're manipulating character. Quick narcissistic [57:05] ? Look, you're manipulating character. Quick narcissistic [57:05] ? Look, you're manipulating character. Quick narcissistic of you to think you're in [57:07] character. Quick narcissistic of you to think you're in [57:07] character. Quick narcissistic of you to think you're in charge of everything. You know, [57:09] of you to think you're in charge of everything. You know, [57:09] of you to think you're in charge of everything. You know, When you're not, Making your [57:12] charge of everything. You know, When you're not, Making your [57:12] charge of everything. You know, When you're not, Making your claims thinking somebody's not [57:14] When you're not, Making your claims thinking somebody's not [57:14] When you're not, Making your claims thinking somebody's not going to look into it. Well, [57:16] claims thinking somebody's not going to look into it. Well, [57:17] claims thinking somebody's not going to look into it. Well, we're looking and I'll keep [57:18] going to look into it. Well, we're looking and I'll keep [57:18] going to look into it. Well, we're looking and I'll keep looking and I'm going to take [57:19] we're looking and I'll keep looking and I'm going to take [57:19] we're looking and I'll keep looking and I'm going to take other people into it too, OK, [57:21] looking and I'm going to take other people into it too, OK, [57:21] looking and I'm going to take other people into it too, OK, until we get down to the bottom [57:23] other people into it too, OK, until we get down to the bottom [57:23] other people into it too, OK, until we get down to the bottom line in this town with these [57:24] until we get down to the bottom line in this town with these [57:24] until we get down to the bottom line in this town with these scholarships. With these gifts, [57:27] line in this town with these scholarships. With these gifts, [57:27] line in this town with these scholarships. With these gifts, these grants, and these people [57:28] scholarships. With these gifts, these grants, and these people [57:28] scholarships. With these gifts, these grants, and these people in this town get what they need [57:29] these grants, and these people in this town get what they need [57:29] these grants, and these people in this town get what they need Yeah, y'all don't have to like [57:30] in this town get what they need Yeah, y'all don't have to like [57:30] in this town get what they need Yeah, y'all don't have to like how my approach is. I get it. [57:32] Yeah, y'all don't have to like how my approach is. I get it. [57:32] Yeah, y'all don't have to like how my approach is. I get it. I'm rough. I'm forward. I'm [57:36] how my approach is. I get it. I'm rough. I'm forward. I'm [57:36] how my approach is. I get it. I'm rough. I'm forward. I'm direct. I'm not gonna take no [57:37] I'm rough. I'm forward. I'm direct. I'm not gonna take no [57:37] I'm rough. I'm forward. I'm direct. I'm not gonna take no BS. I'm not looking to have my [57:39] direct. I'm not gonna take no BS. I'm not looking to have my [57:39] direct. I'm not gonna take no BS. I'm not looking to have my hand held. Does that make me [57:41] BS. I'm not looking to have my hand held. Does that make me [57:41] BS. I'm not looking to have my hand held. Does that make me what, not a viable soldier? Are [57:44] hand held. Does that make me what, not a viable soldier? Are [57:44] hand held. Does that make me what, not a viable soldier? Are you serious? Really? OK. Tell [57:46] what, not a viable soldier? Are you serious? Really? OK. Tell [57:46] what, not a viable soldier? Are you serious? Really? OK. Tell me another story, OK? You don't [57:48] you serious? Really? OK. Tell me another story, OK? You don't [57:48] you serious? Really? OK. Tell me another story, OK? You don't become a, you know, you don't [57:50] me another story, OK? You don't become a, you know, you don't [57:51] me another story, OK? You don't become a, you know, you don't become a, uh, uh, you don't [57:52] become a, you know, you don't become a, uh, uh, you don't [57:53] become a, you know, you don't become a, uh, uh, you don't become a leader by not taking [57:56] become a, uh, uh, you don't become a leader by not taking [57:56] become a, uh, uh, you don't become a leader by not taking leadership direction, right? [57:57] become a leader by not taking leadership direction, right? [57:57] become a leader by not taking leadership direction, right? Leaders don't sit there and go, [57:59] leadership direction, right? Leaders don't sit there and go, [57:59] leadership direction, right? Leaders don't sit there and go, uh. Yes sir, can't we all just [58:03] Leaders don't sit there and go, uh. Yes sir, can't we all just [58:03] Leaders don't sit there and go, uh. Yes sir, can't we all just get along? No, a leader has to [58:04] uh. Yes sir, can't we all just get along? No, a leader has to [58:04] uh. Yes sir, can't we all just get along? No, a leader has to come out and say, Wrong, we got [58:06] get along? No, a leader has to come out and say, Wrong, we got [58:06] get along? No, a leader has to come out and say, Wrong, we got to do something here. Let's get [58:08] come out and say, Wrong, we got to do something here. Let's get [58:08] come out and say, Wrong, we got to do something here. Let's get something done here. That's [58:10] to do something here. Let's get something done here. That's [58:10] to do something here. Let's get something done here. That's leadership, OK, not why can't [58:13] something done here. That's leadership, OK, not why can't [58:13] something done here. That's leadership, OK, not why can't we all just talk to each other, [58:15] leadership, OK, not why can't we all just talk to each other, [58:15] leadership, OK, not why can't we all just talk to each other, you know, it's about 4 years [58:17] we all just talk to each other, you know, it's about 4 years [58:17] we all just talk to each other, you know, it's about 4 years ago I said, I'm tired of [58:17] you know, it's about 4 years ago I said, I'm tired of [58:17] you know, it's about 4 years ago I said, I'm tired of hearing people come up here [58:18] ago I said, I'm tired of hearing people come up here [58:18] ago I said, I'm tired of hearing people come up here looking for appointments to [58:19] hearing people come up here looking for appointments to [58:19] hearing people come up here looking for appointments to boards saying, I love Lunenberg [58:21] looking for appointments to boards saying, I love Lunenberg [58:21] looking for appointments to boards saying, I love Lunenberg I love Lunenberg, I love [58:23] boards saying, I love Lunenberg I love Lunenberg, I love [58:23] boards saying, I love Lunenberg I love Lunenberg, I love Lunenberg and getting elected [58:24] I love Lunenberg, I love Lunenberg and getting elected [58:24] I love Lunenberg, I love Lunenberg and getting elected and getting appointed by a [58:26] Lunenberg and getting elected and getting appointed by a [58:26] Lunenberg and getting elected and getting appointed by a select board. I know about X, Y [58:27] and getting appointed by a select board. I know about X, Y [58:27] and getting appointed by a select board. I know about X, Y or I'm just saying they don't [58:28] select board. I know about X, Y or I'm just saying they don't [58:28] select board. I know about X, Y or I'm just saying they don't know nothing. They just love [58:29] or I'm just saying they don't know nothing. They just love [58:29] or I'm just saying they don't know nothing. They just love Lunenberg, right? And I go like [58:30] know nothing. They just love Lunenberg, right? And I go like [58:31] know nothing. They just love Lunenberg, right? And I go like this, I made one comment after [58:32] Lunenberg, right? And I go like this, I made one comment after [58:32] Lunenberg, right? And I go like this, I made one comment after another after another after [58:33] this, I made one comment after another after another after [58:33] this, I made one comment after another after another after another that there needs to be [58:35] another after another after another that there needs to be [58:35] another after another after another that there needs to be accountability and now what do [58:35] another that there needs to be accountability and now what do [58:35] another that there needs to be accountability and now what do they have accountability and [58:36] accountability and now what do they have accountability and [58:36] accountability and now what do they have accountability and who did that? Who pushed that? [58:38] they have accountability and who did that? Who pushed that? [58:38] they have accountability and who did that? Who pushed that? I helped push it. There are [58:39] who did that? Who pushed that? I helped push it. There are [58:39] who did that? Who pushed that? I helped push it. There are other people pushing it too, OK [58:41] I helped push it. There are other people pushing it too, OK [58:42] I helped push it. There are other people pushing it too, OK but I helped push that. Dave [58:44] other people pushing it too, OK but I helped push that. Dave [58:44] other people pushing it too, OK but I helped push that. Dave used to get up here and be like [58:46] but I helped push that. Dave used to get up here and be like [58:46] but I helped push that. Dave used to get up here and be like I'm here and enough of that. I [58:47] used to get up here and be like I'm here and enough of that. I [58:47] used to get up here and be like I'm here and enough of that. I want people that can do the job [58:49] I'm here and enough of that. I want people that can do the job [58:49] I'm here and enough of that. I want people that can do the job Do you know what I mean? You [58:51] want people that can do the job Do you know what I mean? You [58:51] want people that can do the job Do you know what I mean? You ran. Why? Because you wanted to [58:53] Do you know what I mean? You ran. Why? Because you wanted to [58:53] Do you know what I mean? You ran. Why? Because you wanted to see people you wanted to be in [58:55] ran. Why? Because you wanted to see people you wanted to be in [58:55] ran. Why? Because you wanted to see people you wanted to be in a seat to do the job, right? [58:57] see people you wanted to be in a seat to do the job, right? [58:57] see people you wanted to be in a seat to do the job, right? You're not trying to put it on [58:58] a seat to do the job, right? You're not trying to put it on [58:58] a seat to do the job, right? You're not trying to put it on your LinkedIn, right? Have it [58:59] You're not trying to put it on your LinkedIn, right? Have it [59:00] You're not trying to put it on your LinkedIn, right? Have it on your resume, you know, so [59:00] your LinkedIn, right? Have it on your resume, you know, so [59:00] your LinkedIn, right? Have it on your resume, you know, so you can sign your name. My name [59:02] on your resume, you know, so you can sign your name. My name [59:02] on your resume, you know, so you can sign your name. My name is so and so, MBA and let [59:04] you can sign your name. My name is so and so, MBA and let [59:04] you can sign your name. My name is so and so, MBA and let everybody know you have a [59:05] is so and so, MBA and let everybody know you have a [59:05] is so and so, MBA and let everybody know you have a master's in Business [59:07] everybody know you have a master's in Business [59:07] everybody know you have a master's in Business Administration from Fitchburg. [59:08] master's in Business Administration from Fitchburg. [59:08] master's in Business Administration from Fitchburg. Really? I'm from Bentley. You [59:13] Administration from Fitchburg. Really? I'm from Bentley. You [59:13] Administration from Fitchburg. Really? I'm from Bentley. You Bentley. Ah, I just have [59:14] Really? I'm from Bentley. You Bentley. Ah, I just have [59:14] Really? I'm from Bentley. You Bentley. Ah, I just have Emerson, sorry. I went to an [59:18] Bentley. Ah, I just have Emerson, sorry. I went to an [59:18] Bentley. Ah, I just have Emerson, sorry. I went to an art school. Imagine that. How [59:20] Emerson, sorry. I went to an art school. Imagine that. How [59:20] Emerson, sorry. I went to an art school. Imagine that. How did that happen? So, Um, So [59:26] art school. Imagine that. How did that happen? So, Um, So [59:26] art school. Imagine that. How did that happen? So, Um, So let's continue. So, Again, [59:29] did that happen? So, Um, So let's continue. So, Again, [59:29] did that happen? So, Um, So let's continue. So, Again, we're on this email still. So [59:33] let's continue. So, Again, we're on this email still. So [59:33] let's continue. So, Again, we're on this email still. So that was Mr. Dion. The [59:34] we're on this email still. So that was Mr. Dion. The [59:34] we're on this email still. So that was Mr. Dion. The committee's awarding role is [59:36] that was Mr. Dion. The committee's awarding role is [59:36] that was Mr. Dion. The committee's awarding role is not at issue. Where a fund is a [59:36] committee's awarding role is not at issue. Where a fund is a [59:36] committee's awarding role is not at issue. Where a fund is a gift to the school, 71 section [59:38] not at issue. Where a fund is a gift to the school, 71 section [59:39] not at issue. Where a fund is a gift to the school, 71 section 37A gives the committee [59:40] gift to the school, 71 section 37A gives the committee [59:40] gift to the school, 71 section 37A gives the committee authority to expend it and the [59:42] 37A gives the committee authority to expend it and the [59:42] 37A gives the committee authority to expend it and the commission has no role. We're a [59:43] authority to expend it and the commission has no role. We're a [59:43] authority to expend it and the commission has no role. We're a fund is town held, the [59:45] commission has no role. We're a fund is town held, the [59:45] commission has no role. We're a fund is town held, the commission's duty under Chapter [59:45] fund is town held, the commission's duty under Chapter [59:45] fund is town held, the commission's duty under Chapter 41, sections 45 to 47 and [59:49] commission's duty under Chapter 41, sections 45 to 47 and [59:49] commission's duty under Chapter 41, sections 45 to 47 and chapter 203C, right? Is custody [59:54] 41, sections 45 to 47 and chapter 203C, right? Is custody [59:54] 41, sections 45 to 47 and chapter 203C, right? Is custody Prudent investment, confirming [59:56] chapter 203C, right? Is custody Prudent investment, confirming [59:56] chapter 203C, right? Is custody Prudent investment, confirming that distributions follow [59:56] Prudent investment, confirming that distributions follow [59:57] Prudent investment, confirming that distributions follow donors' terms. Did we say that? [1:00:00] that distributions follow donors' terms. Did we say that? [1:00:00] that distributions follow donors' terms. Did we say that? Watch this. In the committee [1:00:01] donors' terms. Did we say that? Watch this. In the committee [1:00:01] donors' terms. Did we say that? Watch this. In the committee may still be the body that [1:00:03] Watch this. In the committee may still be the body that [1:00:03] Watch this. In the committee may still be the body that selects the recipients as it [1:00:05] may still be the body that selects the recipients as it [1:00:05] may still be the body that selects the recipients as it does now for the Beth Curtis [1:00:06] selects the recipients as it does now for the Beth Curtis [1:00:06] selects the recipients as it does now for the Beth Curtis scholarship. So, sorting the [1:00:09] does now for the Beth Curtis scholarship. So, sorting the [1:00:09] does now for the Beth Curtis scholarship. So, sorting the two categories is the whole [1:00:10] scholarship. So, sorting the two categories is the whole [1:00:10] scholarship. So, sorting the two categories is the whole purpose of the meeting. I don't [1:00:12] two categories is the whole purpose of the meeting. I don't [1:00:12] two categories is the whole purpose of the meeting. I don't have a declaration of the best [1:00:14] purpose of the meeting. I don't have a declaration of the best [1:00:14] purpose of the meeting. I don't have a declaration of the best Curtis scholarship. Do do you? [1:00:16] have a declaration of the best Curtis scholarship. Do do you? [1:00:16] have a declaration of the best Curtis scholarship. Do do you? Never heard of it. Oh, You mean [1:00:18] Curtis scholarship. Do do you? Never heard of it. Oh, You mean [1:00:19] Curtis scholarship. Do do you? Never heard of it. Oh, You mean that's not in our pooled fund? [1:00:20] Never heard of it. Oh, You mean that's not in our pooled fund? [1:00:21] Never heard of it. Oh, You mean that's not in our pooled fund? Uh, Mary, what are you doing? [1:00:23] that's not in our pooled fund? Uh, Mary, what are you doing? [1:00:23] that's not in our pooled fund? Uh, Mary, what are you doing? Marlene doesn't know about it. [1:00:24] Uh, Mary, what are you doing? Marlene doesn't know about it. [1:00:24] Uh, Mary, what are you doing? Marlene doesn't know about it. Wait a minute, what am I saying [1:00:25] Marlene doesn't know about it. Wait a minute, what am I saying [1:00:25] Marlene doesn't know about it. Wait a minute, what am I saying Marlene for? Who's holding that [1:00:27] Wait a minute, what am I saying Marlene for? Who's holding that [1:00:27] Wait a minute, what am I saying Marlene for? Who's holding that money? That's my question. Oh [1:00:32] Marlene for? Who's holding that money? That's my question. Oh [1:00:32] Marlene for? Who's holding that money? That's my question. Oh Oh, the exposure. The public [1:00:34] money? That's my question. Oh Oh, the exposure. The public [1:00:34] money? That's my question. Oh Oh, the exposure. The public record is so wonderful. I know [1:00:37] Oh, the exposure. The public record is so wonderful. I know [1:00:37] Oh, the exposure. The public record is so wonderful. I know everybody likes to slam me off [1:00:37] record is so wonderful. I know everybody likes to slam me off [1:00:37] record is so wonderful. I know everybody likes to slam me off the public record I got. Well, [1:00:42] everybody likes to slam me off the public record I got. Well, [1:00:42] everybody likes to slam me off the public record I got. Well, you know, the pendulum swings [1:00:43] the public record I got. Well, you know, the pendulum swings [1:00:44] the public record I got. Well, you know, the pendulum swings both ways. Questions for the [1:00:46] you know, the pendulum swings both ways. Questions for the [1:00:46] you know, the pendulum swings both ways. Questions for the town. The treasurer does not [1:00:48] both ways. Questions for the town. The treasurer does not [1:00:48] both ways. Questions for the town. The treasurer does not presently hold the scholarship [1:00:48] town. The treasurer does not presently hold the scholarship [1:00:49] town. The treasurer does not presently hold the scholarship accounts the school department [1:00:50] presently hold the scholarship accounts the school department [1:00:50] presently hold the scholarship accounts the school department manages. She holds only, uh, [1:00:53] accounts the school department manages. She holds only, uh, [1:00:53] accounts the school department manages. She holds only, uh, the town's trust funds and [1:00:54] manages. She holds only, uh, the town's trust funds and [1:00:54] manages. She holds only, uh, the town's trust funds and disperses to the school from [1:00:55] the town's trust funds and disperses to the school from [1:00:55] the town's trust funds and disperses to the school from those. On April 21st, she wrote [1:00:57] disperses to the school from those. On April 21st, she wrote [1:00:57] disperses to the school from those. On April 21st, she wrote that she could not yet tell [1:00:59] those. On April 21st, she wrote that she could not yet tell [1:00:59] those. On April 21st, she wrote that she could not yet tell whether the school's accounts [1:00:59] that she could not yet tell whether the school's accounts [1:00:59] that she could not yet tell whether the school's accounts are gifts or scholarship trusts [1:01:01] whether the school's accounts are gifts or scholarship trusts [1:01:01] whether the school's accounts are gifts or scholarship trusts She's been asking since [1:01:03] are gifts or scholarship trusts She's been asking since [1:01:03] are gifts or scholarship trusts She's been asking since November under Chapter 7137A [1:01:05] She's been asking since November under Chapter 7137A [1:01:05] She's been asking since November under Chapter 7137A and chapter 4453, a gift funds [1:01:08] November under Chapter 7137A and chapter 4453, a gift funds [1:01:08] November under Chapter 7137A and chapter 4453, a gift funds received by the school [1:01:08] and chapter 4453, a gift funds received by the school [1:01:08] and chapter 4453, a gift funds received by the school committee are to be deposited [1:01:10] received by the school committee are to be deposited [1:01:10] received by the school committee are to be deposited with her under Chapter 4146. [1:01:13] committee are to be deposited with her under Chapter 4146. [1:01:13] committee are to be deposited with her under Chapter 4146. She is the custodian of all [1:01:15] with her under Chapter 4146. She is the custodian of all [1:01:15] with her under Chapter 4146. She is the custodian of all funds and securities. Of such [1:01:17] She is the custodian of all funds and securities. Of such [1:01:17] She is the custodian of all funds and securities. Of such trust funds and expenses from [1:01:17] funds and securities. Of such trust funds and expenses from [1:01:18] funds and securities. Of such trust funds and expenses from them as directed by the [1:01:20] trust funds and expenses from them as directed by the [1:01:20] trust funds and expenses from them as directed by the commissioners, whichever [1:01:21] them as directed by the commissioners, whichever [1:01:21] them as directed by the commissioners, whichever category each account falls in, [1:01:23] commissioners, whichever category each account falls in, [1:01:24] commissioners, whichever category each account falls in, the statutes place it in her [1:01:24] category each account falls in, the statutes place it in her [1:01:24] category each account falls in, the statutes place it in her custody. That summer held and [1:01:26] the statutes place it in her custody. That summer held and [1:01:26] the statutes place it in her custody. That summer held and managed by the school [1:01:28] custody. That summer held and managed by the school [1:01:28] custody. That summer held and managed by the school department outside her office. [1:01:29] managed by the school department outside her office. [1:01:29] managed by the school department outside her office. It's one of the things the [1:01:30] department outside her office. It's one of the things the [1:01:30] department outside her office. It's one of the things the joint meetings should settle, [1:01:31] It's one of the things the joint meetings should settle, [1:01:31] It's one of the things the joint meetings should settle, and it cannot be settled until [1:01:33] joint meetings should settle, and it cannot be settled until [1:01:33] joint meetings should settle, and it cannot be settled until she is told what the accounts [1:01:35] and it cannot be settled until she is told what the accounts [1:01:35] and it cannot be settled until she is told what the accounts are. OK, let's not tell Mylene [1:01:38] she is told what the accounts are. OK, let's not tell Mylene [1:01:38] she is told what the accounts are. OK, let's not tell Mylene nothing. That's what's going on [1:01:42] are. OK, let's not tell Mylene nothing. That's what's going on [1:01:42] are. OK, let's not tell Mylene nothing. That's what's going on The Townsville financial [1:01:44] nothing. That's what's going on The Townsville financial [1:01:44] nothing. That's what's going on The Townsville financial policies manuals prepared for [1:01:44] The Townsville financial policies manuals prepared for [1:01:45] The Townsville financial policies manuals prepared for the select board by the [1:01:46] policies manuals prepared for the select board by the [1:01:46] policies manuals prepared for the select board by the division of Local Services in [1:01:48] the select board by the division of Local Services in [1:01:48] the select board by the division of Local Services in April 2024 and filed on [1:01:51] division of Local Services in April 2024 and filed on [1:01:51] division of Local Services in April 2024 and filed on Match.gov states its investment [1:01:53] April 2024 and filed on Match.gov states its investment [1:01:53] April 2024 and filed on Match.gov states its investment policies that quote all trust [1:01:53] Match.gov states its investment policies that quote all trust [1:01:53] Match.gov states its investment policies that quote all trust funds are under the treasury [1:01:55] policies that quote all trust funds are under the treasury [1:01:55] policies that quote all trust funds are under the treasury collector's control unless [1:01:57] funds are under the treasury collector's control unless [1:01:57] funds are under the treasury collector's control unless otherwise directed by their [1:01:59] collector's control unless otherwise directed by their [1:01:59] collector's control unless otherwise directed by their particular donors and directs [1:02:00] otherwise directed by their particular donors and directs [1:02:00] otherwise directed by their particular donors and directs the treasurer to quote send [1:02:02] particular donors and directs the treasurer to quote send [1:02:02] particular donors and directs the treasurer to quote send letters to banks in the local [1:02:03] the treasurer to quote send letters to banks in the local [1:02:03] the treasurer to quote send letters to banks in the local region requesting them to [1:02:05] letters to banks in the local region requesting them to [1:02:05] letters to banks in the local region requesting them to report all usage of the town's [1:02:07] region requesting them to report all usage of the town's [1:02:07] region requesting them to report all usage of the town's tax identification number as a [1:02:09] report all usage of the town's tax identification number as a [1:02:09] report all usage of the town's tax identification number as a means number is used only by [1:02:11] tax identification number as a means number is used only by [1:02:11] tax identification number as a means number is used only by the treasure and collector and [1:02:11] means number is used only by the treasure and collector and [1:02:11] means number is used only by the treasure and collector and no outside entities, unquote. [1:02:15] the treasure and collector and no outside entities, unquote. [1:02:15] the treasure and collector and no outside entities, unquote. Well, school's been been an [1:02:17] no outside entities, unquote. Well, school's been been an [1:02:17] no outside entities, unquote. Well, school's been been an outside entity. Inside entity, [1:02:18] Well, school's been been an outside entity. Inside entity, [1:02:18] Well, school's been been an outside entity. Inside entity, outside entity, oh, what's it, [1:02:20] outside entity. Inside entity, outside entity, oh, what's it, [1:02:20] outside entity. Inside entity, outside entity, oh, what's it, this side is it, that side, [1:02:22] outside entity, oh, what's it, this side is it, that side, [1:02:22] outside entity, oh, what's it, this side is it, that side, tomato, tomato, potato, potato. [1:02:24] this side is it, that side, tomato, tomato, potato, potato. [1:02:24] this side is it, that side, tomato, tomato, potato, potato. Why don't we just call the [1:02:25] tomato, tomato, potato, potato. Why don't we just call the [1:02:25] tomato, tomato, potato, potato. Why don't we just call the whole thing off. What do you [1:02:27] Why don't we just call the whole thing off. What do you [1:02:27] Why don't we just call the whole thing off. What do you think? Love that. It's [1:02:34] whole thing off. What do you think? Love that. It's [1:02:34] whole thing off. What do you think? Love that. It's disbursement policies and that [1:02:36] think? Love that. It's disbursement policies and that [1:02:36] think? Love that. It's disbursement policies and that same policy provides that no [1:02:38] disbursement policies and that same policy provides that no [1:02:38] disbursement policies and that same policy provides that no disbursement of any payroll or [1:02:38] same policy provides that no disbursement of any payroll or [1:02:38] same policy provides that no disbursement of any payroll or accounts payable expense shall [1:02:40] disbursement of any payroll or accounts payable expense shall [1:02:40] disbursement of any payroll or accounts payable expense shall occur without the prior prior [1:02:41] accounts payable expense shall occur without the prior prior [1:02:41] accounts payable expense shall occur without the prior prior view of the town accountant and [1:02:43] occur without the prior prior view of the town accountant and [1:02:43] occur without the prior prior view of the town accountant and approval by the select board. [1:02:45] view of the town accountant and approval by the select board. [1:02:45] view of the town accountant and approval by the select board. The manual is labeled the draft [1:02:45] approval by the select board. The manual is labeled the draft [1:02:45] approval by the select board. The manual is labeled the draft for the select board's approval [1:02:47] The manual is labeled the draft for the select board's approval [1:02:47] The manual is labeled the draft for the select board's approval and the school committee's [1:02:47] for the select board's approval and the school committee's [1:02:47] for the select board's approval and the school committee's minutes of September 2024, [1:02:50] and the school committee's minutes of September 2024, [1:02:50] and the school committee's minutes of September 2024, record its discussion of the [1:02:52] minutes of September 2024, record its discussion of the [1:02:52] minutes of September 2024, record its discussion of the document before formal adoption [1:02:53] record its discussion of the document before formal adoption [1:02:53] record its discussion of the document before formal adoption by the select board. Three [1:02:54] document before formal adoption by the select board. Three [1:02:54] document before formal adoption by the select board. Three questions for the town manager, [1:02:56] by the select board. Three questions for the town manager, [1:02:56] by the select board. Three questions for the town manager, which I asked to be answered in [1:02:56] questions for the town manager, which I asked to be answered in [1:02:56] questions for the town manager, which I asked to be answered in writing before the joint [1:02:58] which I asked to be answered in writing before the joint [1:02:58] which I asked to be answered in writing before the joint meeting. Has the financial [1:02:59] writing before the joint meeting. Has the financial [1:02:59] writing before the joint meeting. Has the financial policies manual been adopted by [1:03:01] meeting. Has the financial policies manual been adopted by [1:03:01] meeting. Has the financial policies manual been adopted by the select board in whole or in [1:03:02] policies manual been adopted by the select board in whole or in [1:03:03] policies manual been adopted by the select board in whole or in part, and on what date. If not, [1:03:05] the select board in whole or in part, and on what date. If not, [1:03:05] the select board in whole or in part, and on what date. If not, what is its status? Has the [1:03:07] part, and on what date. If not, what is its status? Has the [1:03:07] part, and on what date. If not, what is its status? Has the treasurer sent the annual bank [1:03:08] what is its status? Has the treasurer sent the annual bank [1:03:08] what is its status? Has the treasurer sent the annual bank letters, the investments policy [1:03:11] treasurer sent the annual bank letters, the investments policy [1:03:12] treasurer sent the annual bank letters, the investments policy contemplates requesting each [1:03:12] letters, the investments policy contemplates requesting each [1:03:12] letters, the investments policy contemplates requesting each institution to report all [1:03:14] contemplates requesting each institution to report all [1:03:14] contemplates requesting each institution to report all accounts held under the town's [1:03:14] institution to report all accounts held under the town's [1:03:14] institution to report all accounts held under the town's EIN and if so, what did they [1:03:16] accounts held under the town's EIN and if so, what did they [1:03:16] accounts held under the town's EIN and if so, what did they return? See, which scholarship [1:03:19] EIN and if so, what did they return? See, which scholarship [1:03:19] EIN and if so, what did they return? See, which scholarship gift and revolving accounts of [1:03:20] return? See, which scholarship gift and revolving accounts of [1:03:20] return? See, which scholarship gift and revolving accounts of the school department are [1:03:21] gift and revolving accounts of the school department are [1:03:21] gift and revolving accounts of the school department are currently in the treasurer's [1:03:22] the school department are currently in the treasurer's [1:03:22] the school department are currently in the treasurer's custody and paid on select [1:03:23] currently in the treasurer's custody and paid on select [1:03:23] currently in the treasurer's custody and paid on select board warrants in which, if any [1:03:25] custody and paid on select board warrants in which, if any [1:03:25] custody and paid on select board warrants in which, if any are held elsewhere. Requests. [1:03:30] board warrants in which, if any are held elsewhere. Requests. [1:03:30] board warrants in which, if any are held elsewhere. Requests. The commission voted on August [1:03:30] are held elsewhere. Requests. The commission voted on August [1:03:30] are held elsewhere. Requests. The commission voted on August 27th to request a joint meeting [1:03:32] The commission voted on August 27th to request a joint meeting [1:03:32] The commission voted on August 27th to request a joint meeting within 30 days at a time and [1:03:33] 27th to request a joint meeting within 30 days at a time and [1:03:33] 27th to request a joint meeting within 30 days at a time and place of the school committee's [1:03:35] within 30 days at a time and place of the school committee's [1:03:35] within 30 days at a time and place of the school committee's choosing. That window runs at [1:03:37] place of the school committee's choosing. That window runs at [1:03:37] place of the school committee's choosing. That window runs at approximately September 26th. [1:03:39] choosing. That window runs at approximately September 26th. [1:03:39] choosing. That window runs at approximately September 26th. Please send, this is my request [1:03:41] approximately September 26th. Please send, this is my request [1:03:41] approximately September 26th. Please send, this is my request 2 or 3 dates that work for your [1:03:43] Please send, this is my request 2 or 3 dates that work for your [1:03:43] Please send, this is my request 2 or 3 dates that work for your committee in the name of [1:03:44] 2 or 3 dates that work for your committee in the name of [1:03:44] 2 or 3 dates that work for your committee in the name of counsel. The written answers [1:03:46] committee in the name of counsel. The written answers [1:03:46] committee in the name of counsel. The written answers requested above in advance of [1:03:48] counsel. The written answers requested above in advance of [1:03:48] counsel. The written answers requested above in advance of that meeting would let it be a [1:03:50] requested above in advance of that meeting would let it be a [1:03:50] requested above in advance of that meeting would let it be a working session rather than a [1:03:50] that meeting would let it be a working session rather than a [1:03:50] that meeting would let it be a working session rather than a first exchange of positions. [1:03:52] working session rather than a first exchange of positions. [1:03:52] working session rather than a first exchange of positions. Like I said, a single evening [1:03:53] first exchange of positions. Like I said, a single evening [1:03:53] first exchange of positions. Like I said, a single evening with the instruments and the [1:03:55] Like I said, a single evening with the instruments and the [1:03:55] Like I said, a single evening with the instruments and the account information on the [1:03:56] with the instruments and the account information on the [1:03:56] with the instruments and the account information on the table and the responsible town [1:03:57] account information on the table and the responsible town [1:03:57] account information on the table and the responsible town officers present should resolve [1:03:58] table and the responsible town officers present should resolve [1:03:58] table and the responsible town officers present should resolve most of this, right? So that's [1:03:59] officers present should resolve most of this, right? So that's [1:04:00] officers present should resolve most of this, right? So that's what we do, right? So we've [1:04:02] most of this, right? So that's what we do, right? So we've [1:04:02] most of this, right? So that's what we do, right? So we've given you a whole year of your [1:04:04] what we do, right? So we've given you a whole year of your [1:04:04] what we do, right? So we've given you a whole year of your being able to do it. You've had [1:04:06] given you a whole year of your being able to do it. You've had [1:04:06] given you a whole year of your being able to do it. You've had plenty of time. And when he was [1:04:08] being able to do it. You've had plenty of time. And when he was [1:04:08] being able to do it. You've had plenty of time. And when he was working with Special Tommy and [1:04:09] plenty of time. And when he was working with Special Tommy and [1:04:09] plenty of time. And when he was working with Special Tommy and oh, we have another special [1:04:10] working with Special Tommy and oh, we have another special [1:04:10] working with Special Tommy and oh, we have another special Tommy coming up. Oh my goodness [1:04:11] oh, we have another special Tommy coming up. Oh my goodness [1:04:11] oh, we have another special Tommy coming up. Oh my goodness the other Tommy, we're working [1:04:12] Tommy coming up. Oh my goodness the other Tommy, we're working [1:04:13] Tommy coming up. Oh my goodness the other Tommy, we're working with a bunch of, we don't have [1:04:13] the other Tommy, we're working with a bunch of, we don't have [1:04:13] the other Tommy, we're working with a bunch of, we don't have money. I'm hiring a new [1:04:15] with a bunch of, we don't have money. I'm hiring a new [1:04:15] with a bunch of, we don't have money. I'm hiring a new freaking firm to come in and [1:04:15] money. I'm hiring a new freaking firm to come in and [1:04:16] money. I'm hiring a new freaking firm to come in and account, right? This is the new [1:04:17] freaking firm to come in and account, right? This is the new [1:04:17] freaking firm to come in and account, right? This is the new one I'm going to hear, right? [1:04:18] account, right? This is the new one I'm going to hear, right? [1:04:18] account, right? This is the new one I'm going to hear, right? Oh, we just hired a firm to [1:04:19] one I'm going to hear, right? Oh, we just hired a firm to [1:04:19] one I'm going to hear, right? Oh, we just hired a firm to come in and look at all our [1:04:20] Oh, we just hired a firm to come in and look at all our [1:04:20] Oh, we just hired a firm to come in and look at all our books. That's going to be the [1:04:21] come in and look at all our books. That's going to be the [1:04:21] come in and look at all our books. That's going to be the next deflection. They hired a [1:04:22] books. That's going to be the next deflection. They hired a [1:04:22] books. That's going to be the next deflection. They hired a firm to come in. They got money [1:04:24] next deflection. They hired a firm to come in. They got money [1:04:24] next deflection. They hired a firm to come in. They got money at special meeting to hire a [1:04:26] firm to come in. They got money at special meeting to hire a [1:04:26] firm to come in. They got money at special meeting to hire a firm to come in and evaluate [1:04:27] at special meeting to hire a firm to come in and evaluate [1:04:27] at special meeting to hire a firm to come in and evaluate their books like an audit. Oh, [1:04:29] firm to come in and evaluate their books like an audit. Oh, [1:04:29] firm to come in and evaluate their books like an audit. Oh, OK. Well, we got to wait for [1:04:31] their books like an audit. Oh, OK. Well, we got to wait for [1:04:31] their books like an audit. Oh, OK. Well, we got to wait for the audit to happen before we [1:04:31] OK. Well, we got to wait for the audit to happen before we [1:04:31] OK. Well, we got to wait for the audit to happen before we can give you the information. [1:04:33] the audit to happen before we can give you the information. [1:04:33] the audit to happen before we can give you the information. Are the audit's going to take 9 [1:04:33] can give you the information. Are the audit's going to take 9 [1:04:33] can give you the information. Are the audit's going to take 9 months. I don't think so. No, [1:04:37] Are the audit's going to take 9 months. I don't think so. No, [1:04:37] Are the audit's going to take 9 months. I don't think so. No, you prioritize your audit and [1:04:37] months. I don't think so. No, you prioritize your audit and [1:04:38] months. I don't think so. No, you prioritize your audit and you say, pull all that [1:04:39] you prioritize your audit and you say, pull all that [1:04:39] you prioritize your audit and you say, pull all that information out and hand it to [1:04:40] you say, pull all that information out and hand it to [1:04:40] you say, pull all that information out and hand it to the commission. See, that's how [1:04:42] information out and hand it to the commission. See, that's how [1:04:42] information out and hand it to the commission. See, that's how it works. So, Uh, school [1:04:46] the commission. See, that's how it works. So, Uh, school [1:04:46] the commission. See, that's how it works. So, Uh, school committee let not that be a [1:04:47] it works. So, Uh, school committee let not that be a [1:04:47] it works. So, Uh, school committee let not that be a deflection, please. All right, [1:04:48] committee let not that be a deflection, please. All right, [1:04:48] committee let not that be a deflection, please. All right, wouldn't you agree that we [1:04:49] deflection, please. All right, wouldn't you agree that we [1:04:49] deflection, please. All right, wouldn't you agree that we shouldn't be deflected on that [1:04:51] wouldn't you agree that we shouldn't be deflected on that [1:04:51] wouldn't you agree that we shouldn't be deflected on that premise? Yes, I'm just trying [1:04:53] shouldn't be deflected on that premise? Yes, I'm just trying [1:04:53] shouldn't be deflected on that premise? Yes, I'm just trying to find another hole that [1:04:54] premise? Yes, I'm just trying to find another hole that [1:04:54] premise? Yes, I'm just trying to find another hole that they're gonna try to deflect [1:04:55] to find another hole that they're gonna try to deflect [1:04:55] to find another hole that they're gonna try to deflect into. Oh, all audits come to an [1:05:00] they're gonna try to deflect into. Oh, all audits come to an [1:05:00] they're gonna try to deflect into. Oh, all audits come to an end eventually. Yeah, I know [1:05:02] into. Oh, all audits come to an end eventually. Yeah, I know [1:05:02] into. Oh, all audits come to an end eventually. Yeah, I know that. All right. So any [1:05:06] end eventually. Yeah, I know that. All right. So any [1:05:06] end eventually. Yeah, I know that. All right. So any discussion? I think you [1:05:09] that. All right. So any discussion? I think you [1:05:09] that. All right. So any discussion? I think you articulated your point quite, [1:05:10] discussion? I think you articulated your point quite, [1:05:10] discussion? I think you articulated your point quite, quite well, I think, uh, I mean [1:05:11] articulated your point quite, quite well, I think, uh, I mean [1:05:11] articulated your point quite, quite well, I think, uh, I mean I'm, I'm taking the position [1:05:13] quite well, I think, uh, I mean I'm, I'm taking the position [1:05:13] quite well, I think, uh, I mean I'm, I'm taking the position that does not a situation of [1:05:16] I'm, I'm taking the position that does not a situation of [1:05:16] I'm, I'm taking the position that does not a situation of the lack of response due to [1:05:18] that does not a situation of the lack of response due to [1:05:18] that does not a situation of the lack of response due to malevolence, but it's more of [1:05:20] the lack of response due to malevolence, but it's more of [1:05:20] the lack of response due to malevolence, but it's more of Uh Uh, you know, maybe some [1:05:25] malevolence, but it's more of Uh Uh, you know, maybe some [1:05:25] malevolence, but it's more of Uh Uh, you know, maybe some misunderstanding around the [1:05:27] Uh Uh, you know, maybe some misunderstanding around the [1:05:27] Uh Uh, you know, maybe some misunderstanding around the prior misunderstanding around [1:05:27] misunderstanding around the prior misunderstanding around [1:05:27] misunderstanding around the prior misunderstanding around the requirements and the [1:05:29] prior misunderstanding around the requirements and the [1:05:29] prior misunderstanding around the requirements and the responsibilities. That now that [1:05:32] the requirements and the responsibilities. That now that [1:05:32] the requirements and the responsibilities. That now that they're more cognizant of them, [1:05:33] responsibilities. That now that they're more cognizant of them, [1:05:34] responsibilities. That now that they're more cognizant of them, that they will now work to Move [1:05:38] they're more cognizant of them, that they will now work to Move [1:05:38] they're more cognizant of them, that they will now work to Move into compliance and actually [1:05:38] that they will now work to Move into compliance and actually [1:05:38] that they will now work to Move into compliance and actually start. At least I guess what's [1:05:41] into compliance and actually start. At least I guess what's [1:05:41] into compliance and actually start. At least I guess what's what's troubling is that [1:05:42] start. At least I guess what's what's troubling is that [1:05:42] start. At least I guess what's what's troubling is that there's really no if they say [1:05:43] what's troubling is that there's really no if they say [1:05:43] what's troubling is that there's really no if they say like, hey, we're working on [1:05:45] there's really no if they say like, hey, we're working on [1:05:45] there's really no if they say like, hey, we're working on this and we've researched too [1:05:48] like, hey, we're working on this and we've researched too [1:05:48] like, hey, we're working on this and we've researched too and we have some results on [1:05:49] this and we've researched too and we have some results on [1:05:49] this and we've researched too and we have some results on these two funds, and this is [1:05:51] and we have some results on these two funds, and this is [1:05:51] and we have some results on these two funds, and this is what we found. Here's, here's [1:05:54] these two funds, and this is what we found. Here's, here's [1:05:54] these two funds, and this is what we found. Here's, here's some paperwork and we, we got 2 [1:05:56] what we found. Here's, here's some paperwork and we, we got 2 [1:05:56] what we found. Here's, here's some paperwork and we, we got 2 more in, in, in, in process. So [1:05:56] some paperwork and we, we got 2 more in, in, in, in process. So [1:05:56] some paperwork and we, we got 2 more in, in, in, in process. So we got another 3 you know what [1:05:58] more in, in, in, in process. So we got another 3 you know what [1:05:59] more in, in, in, in process. So we got another 3 you know what I mean? It, it, it's a sort of [1:06:00] we got another 3 you know what I mean? It, it, it's a sort of [1:06:00] we got another 3 you know what I mean? It, it, it's a sort of like if there was some evidence [1:06:01] I mean? It, it, it's a sort of like if there was some evidence [1:06:01] I mean? It, it, it's a sort of like if there was some evidence you mean a good faith effort, [1:06:03] like if there was some evidence you mean a good faith effort, [1:06:03] like if there was some evidence you mean a good faith effort, there's the evidence of a good [1:06:04] you mean a good faith effort, there's the evidence of a good [1:06:04] you mean a good faith effort, there's the evidence of a good faith ever ask you, Lisa, I [1:06:05] there's the evidence of a good faith ever ask you, Lisa, I [1:06:05] there's the evidence of a good faith ever ask you, Lisa, I wouldn't be, so is there a good [1:06:07] faith ever ask you, Lisa, I wouldn't be, so is there a good [1:06:07] faith ever ask you, Lisa, I wouldn't be, so is there a good has there been a good faith [1:06:07] wouldn't be, so is there a good has there been a good faith [1:06:08] wouldn't be, so is there a good has there been a good faith effort in a year? You answered [1:06:09] has there been a good faith effort in a year? You answered [1:06:09] has there been a good faith effort in a year? You answered me that well, that's my point. [1:06:10] effort in a year? You answered me that well, that's my point. [1:06:10] effort in a year? You answered me that well, that's my point. I want to know, but you just [1:06:12] me that well, that's my point. I want to know, but you just [1:06:12] me that well, that's my point. I want to know, but you just point there doesn't appear to [1:06:12] I want to know, but you just point there doesn't appear to [1:06:12] I want to know, but you just point there doesn't appear to be. I know that, but you just [1:06:14] point there doesn't appear to be. I know that, but you just [1:06:14] point there doesn't appear to be. I know that, but you just gave some credibility to [1:06:15] be. I know that, but you just gave some credibility to [1:06:15] be. I know that, but you just gave some credibility to something that I have to debate [1:06:16] gave some credibility to something that I have to debate [1:06:16] gave some credibility to something that I have to debate you on because you just said [1:06:18] something that I have to debate you on because you just said [1:06:18] something that I have to debate you on because you just said that, well, you know, I don't [1:06:19] you on because you just said that, well, you know, I don't [1:06:19] you on because you just said that, well, you know, I don't really think it's intentional. [1:06:20] that, well, you know, I don't really think it's intentional. [1:06:20] that, well, you know, I don't really think it's intentional. I think it's a misunderstanding [1:06:22] really think it's intentional. I think it's a misunderstanding [1:06:22] really think it's intentional. I think it's a misunderstanding I think it's this, that and the [1:06:22] I think it's a misunderstanding I think it's this, that and the [1:06:22] I think it's a misunderstanding I think it's this, that and the other thing, right? OK, so. [1:06:23] I think it's this, that and the other thing, right? OK, so. [1:06:23] I think it's this, that and the other thing, right? OK, so. Let's take that. So over a year [1:06:25] other thing, right? OK, so. Let's take that. So over a year [1:06:25] other thing, right? OK, so. Let's take that. So over a year over a year, let's start with [1:06:27] Let's take that. So over a year over a year, let's start with [1:06:27] Let's take that. So over a year over a year, let's start with the assumption that there isn't [1:06:28] over a year, let's start with the assumption that there isn't [1:06:28] over a year, let's start with the assumption that there isn't malevolence or well, we already [1:06:30] the assumption that there isn't malevolence or well, we already [1:06:30] the assumption that there isn't malevolence or well, we already did that or. We asked for it [1:06:33] malevolence or well, we already did that or. We asked for it [1:06:33] malevolence or well, we already did that or. We asked for it last year, right when we got in [1:06:34] did that or. We asked for it last year, right when we got in [1:06:34] did that or. We asked for it last year, right when we got in here. Right, I asked it, [1:06:39] last year, right when we got in here. Right, I asked it, [1:06:39] last year, right when we got in here. Right, I asked it, remember the debate that was [1:06:39] here. Right, I asked it, remember the debate that was [1:06:39] here. Right, I asked it, remember the debate that was going on between the [1:06:41] remember the debate that was going on between the [1:06:41] remember the debate that was going on between the Conservation commission, the [1:06:43] going on between the Conservation commission, the [1:06:43] going on between the Conservation commission, the trusts held by then, which we [1:06:44] Conservation commission, the trusts held by then, which we [1:06:44] Conservation commission, the trusts held by then, which we figured out, and which was fine [1:06:46] trusts held by then, which we figured out, and which was fine [1:06:46] trusts held by then, which we figured out, and which was fine We already knew that they're an [1:06:48] figured out, and which was fine We already knew that they're an [1:06:48] figured out, and which was fine We already knew that they're an entirely separate entity. They [1:06:48] We already knew that they're an entirely separate entity. They [1:06:49] We already knew that they're an entirely separate entity. They have statute under them. And [1:06:50] entirely separate entity. They have statute under them. And [1:06:50] entirely separate entity. They have statute under them. And then there was the cemetery [1:06:51] have statute under them. And then there was the cemetery [1:06:51] have statute under them. And then there was the cemetery commission and how that trust [1:06:52] then there was the cemetery commission and how that trust [1:06:53] then there was the cemetery commission and how that trust was handled and so and so, [1:06:53] commission and how that trust was handled and so and so, [1:06:53] commission and how that trust was handled and so and so, right? Remember the whole thing [1:06:55] was handled and so and so, right? Remember the whole thing [1:06:55] was handled and so and so, right? Remember the whole thing right? So the school was all [1:06:57] right? Remember the whole thing right? So the school was all [1:06:57] right? Remember the whole thing right? So the school was all part of that too, right? But [1:06:59] right? So the school was all part of that too, right? But [1:06:59] right? So the school was all part of that too, right? But the town says, oh, that's the [1:07:00] part of that too, right? But the town says, oh, that's the [1:07:00] part of that too, right? But the town says, oh, that's the school, we don't have nothing [1:07:01] the town says, oh, that's the school, we don't have nothing [1:07:01] the town says, oh, that's the school, we don't have nothing to do with the school. And then [1:07:03] school, we don't have nothing to do with the school. And then [1:07:03] school, we don't have nothing to do with the school. And then I go to the school and the [1:07:04] to do with the school. And then I go to the school and the [1:07:04] to do with the school. And then I go to the school and the school goes, oh, that's the [1:07:05] I go to the school and the school goes, oh, that's the [1:07:06] I go to the school and the school goes, oh, that's the town nothing to do with the [1:07:06] school goes, oh, that's the town nothing to do with the [1:07:06] school goes, oh, that's the town nothing to do with the town. Right, OK, so it all [1:07:09] town nothing to do with the town. Right, OK, so it all [1:07:09] town nothing to do with the town. Right, OK, so it all began there. Ready? You were [1:07:10] town. Right, OK, so it all began there. Ready? You were [1:07:11] town. Right, OK, so it all began there. Ready? You were asked. You were asked nicely. I [1:07:13] began there. Ready? You were asked. You were asked nicely. I [1:07:13] began there. Ready? You were asked. You were asked nicely. I even met with Tony Scallabrini. [1:07:15] asked. You were asked nicely. I even met with Tony Scallabrini. [1:07:15] asked. You were asked nicely. I even met with Tony Scallabrini. He was awesome. And talked with [1:07:17] even met with Tony Scallabrini. He was awesome. And talked with [1:07:17] even met with Tony Scallabrini. He was awesome. And talked with him one on one down at uh uh [1:07:20] He was awesome. And talked with him one on one down at uh uh [1:07:20] He was awesome. And talked with him one on one down at uh uh down at the coffee shop, right? [1:07:22] him one on one down at uh uh down at the coffee shop, right? [1:07:22] him one on one down at uh uh down at the coffee shop, right? And just kind of went over a [1:07:24] down at the coffee shop, right? And just kind of went over a [1:07:24] down at the coffee shop, right? And just kind of went over a couple of things. That's all. [1:07:24] And just kind of went over a couple of things. That's all. [1:07:24] And just kind of went over a couple of things. That's all. Do you know what I mean? And, [1:07:26] couple of things. That's all. Do you know what I mean? And, [1:07:26] couple of things. That's all. Do you know what I mean? And, uh, you know, bounced around a [1:07:28] Do you know what I mean? And, uh, you know, bounced around a [1:07:28] Do you know what I mean? And, uh, you know, bounced around a couple of ideas that there [1:07:29] uh, you know, bounced around a couple of ideas that there [1:07:29] uh, you know, bounced around a couple of ideas that there might be some added benefit [1:07:30] couple of ideas that there might be some added benefit [1:07:30] couple of ideas that there might be some added benefit that might benefit the school [1:07:31] might be some added benefit that might benefit the school [1:07:31] might be some added benefit that might benefit the school at the same time, but we have [1:07:32] that might benefit the school at the same time, but we have [1:07:32] that might benefit the school at the same time, but we have to get some business done and [1:07:33] at the same time, but we have to get some business done and [1:07:33] at the same time, but we have to get some business done and he was OK with that. I gave a, [1:07:38] to get some business done and he was OK with that. I gave a, [1:07:38] to get some business done and he was OK with that. I gave a, uh, uh, uh, a verbal comment at [1:07:40] he was OK with that. I gave a, uh, uh, uh, a verbal comment at [1:07:40] he was OK with that. I gave a, uh, uh, uh, a verbal comment at the school committee and got [1:07:40] uh, uh, uh, a verbal comment at the school committee and got [1:07:40] uh, uh, uh, a verbal comment at the school committee and got told, oh, I talked to my lawyer [1:07:42] the school committee and got told, oh, I talked to my lawyer [1:07:42] the school committee and got told, oh, I talked to my lawyer and now here they are again, [1:07:43] told, oh, I talked to my lawyer and now here they are again, [1:07:43] told, oh, I talked to my lawyer and now here they are again, another year later, I'm gonna [1:07:44] and now here they are again, another year later, I'm gonna [1:07:44] and now here they are again, another year later, I'm gonna talk to my lawyer again. Look, [1:07:46] another year later, I'm gonna talk to my lawyer again. Look, [1:07:46] another year later, I'm gonna talk to my lawyer again. Look, I already Read the email to you [1:07:47] talk to my lawyer again. Look, I already Read the email to you [1:07:47] talk to my lawyer again. Look, I already Read the email to you already. They already talked to [1:07:49] I already Read the email to you already. They already talked to [1:07:49] I already Read the email to you already. They already talked to their lawyer. It's in their [1:07:51] already. They already talked to their lawyer. It's in their [1:07:51] already. They already talked to their lawyer. It's in their minutes. They already talked to [1:07:53] their lawyer. It's in their minutes. They already talked to [1:07:53] their lawyer. It's in their minutes. They already talked to their lawyer. What are you [1:07:55] minutes. They already talked to their lawyer. What are you [1:07:55] minutes. They already talked to their lawyer. What are you waiting for? Why is it another [1:07:57] their lawyer. What are you waiting for? Why is it another [1:07:57] their lawyer. What are you waiting for? Why is it another lawyer? Oh, then I think the [1:07:58] waiting for? Why is it another lawyer? Oh, then I think the [1:07:58] waiting for? Why is it another lawyer? Oh, then I think the lawyer is interfering with [1:07:59] lawyer? Oh, then I think the lawyer is interfering with [1:07:59] lawyer? Oh, then I think the lawyer is interfering with trustee duties. That's not good [1:08:02] lawyer is interfering with trustee duties. That's not good [1:08:02] lawyer is interfering with trustee duties. That's not good That means I got to make a [1:08:02] trustee duties. That's not good That means I got to make a [1:08:02] trustee duties. That's not good That means I got to make a report to the board of our [1:08:04] That means I got to make a report to the board of our [1:08:04] That means I got to make a report to the board of our overseers on behalf of this [1:08:05] report to the board of our overseers on behalf of this [1:08:05] report to the board of our overseers on behalf of this board if I get a vote from you [1:08:06] overseers on behalf of this board if I get a vote from you [1:08:06] overseers on behalf of this board if I get a vote from you next week. I mean, my, my point [1:08:10] board if I get a vote from you next week. I mean, my, my point [1:08:10] board if I get a vote from you next week. I mean, my, my point was. I think that the letter is [1:08:13] next week. I mean, my, my point was. I think that the letter is [1:08:14] next week. I mean, my, my point was. I think that the letter is this communication was [1:08:15] was. I think that the letter is this communication was [1:08:15] was. I think that the letter is this communication was appropriate given the lack of [1:08:16] this communication was appropriate given the lack of [1:08:16] this communication was appropriate given the lack of what appears to be good faith [1:08:18] appropriate given the lack of what appears to be good faith [1:08:18] appropriate given the lack of what appears to be good faith effort. Oh, right, OK. That [1:08:20] what appears to be good faith effort. Oh, right, OK. That [1:08:20] what appears to be good faith effort. Oh, right, OK. That much better statement better [1:08:23] effort. Oh, right, OK. That much better statement better [1:08:23] effort. Oh, right, OK. That much better statement better statement a saying, I'm, I, I [1:08:24] much better statement better statement a saying, I'm, I, I [1:08:24] much better statement better statement a saying, I'm, I, I wouldn't start out. Making a [1:08:27] statement a saying, I'm, I, I wouldn't start out. Making a [1:08:27] statement a saying, I'm, I, I wouldn't start out. Making a claim that there's malfeasance [1:08:29] wouldn't start out. Making a claim that there's malfeasance [1:08:29] wouldn't start out. Making a claim that there's malfeasance or Uh, negligence or whatever, [1:08:32] claim that there's malfeasance or Uh, negligence or whatever, [1:08:32] claim that there's malfeasance or Uh, negligence or whatever, but now that they're aware of [1:08:34] or Uh, negligence or whatever, but now that they're aware of [1:08:34] or Uh, negligence or whatever, but now that they're aware of it. Because people in school [1:08:36] but now that they're aware of it. Because people in school [1:08:36] but now that they're aware of it. Because people in school committee may not know all the [1:08:38] it. Because people in school committee may not know all the [1:08:38] it. Because people in school committee may not know all the rules and regulations around, [1:08:40] committee may not know all the rules and regulations around, [1:08:40] committee may not know all the rules and regulations around, but it's not the school [1:08:41] rules and regulations around, but it's not the school [1:08:41] rules and regulations around, but it's not the school committee that they're talking [1:08:41] but it's not the school committee that they're talking [1:08:41] but it's not the school committee that they're talking about. They're talking about [1:08:42] committee that they're talking about. They're talking about [1:08:42] committee that they're talking about. They're talking about their lawyer, which is what an [1:08:43] about. They're talking about their lawyer, which is what an [1:08:43] about. They're talking about their lawyer, which is what an employee of the superintendent. [1:08:45] their lawyer, which is what an employee of the superintendent. [1:08:45] their lawyer, which is what an employee of the superintendent. Hold on, as a contractor of the [1:08:48] employee of the superintendent. Hold on, as a contractor of the [1:08:48] employee of the superintendent. Hold on, as a contractor of the superintendent. So that's a [1:08:50] Hold on, as a contractor of the superintendent. So that's a [1:08:50] Hold on, as a contractor of the superintendent. So that's a contractor, right, that the [1:08:52] superintendent. So that's a contractor, right, that the [1:08:52] superintendent. So that's a contractor, right, that the superintendent pays money to. [1:08:52] contractor, right, that the superintendent pays money to. [1:08:52] contractor, right, that the superintendent pays money to. OK, so, so it was not elected [1:08:56] superintendent pays money to. OK, so, so it was not elected [1:08:56] superintendent pays money to. OK, so, so it was not elected or anything. That's correct, so [1:08:57] OK, so, so it was not elected or anything. That's correct, so [1:08:57] OK, so, so it was not elected or anything. That's correct, so he can't be a trustee. So it [1:08:59] or anything. That's correct, so he can't be a trustee. So it [1:08:59] or anything. That's correct, so he can't be a trustee. So it doesn't matter whether the [1:08:59] he can't be a trustee. So it doesn't matter whether the [1:08:59] he can't be a trustee. So it doesn't matter whether the school committee knows anything [1:09:01] doesn't matter whether the school committee knows anything [1:09:01] doesn't matter whether the school committee knows anything OK? The lawyer should have been [1:09:03] school committee knows anything OK? The lawyer should have been [1:09:03] school committee knows anything OK? The lawyer should have been telling the school committee, [1:09:04] OK? The lawyer should have been telling the school committee, [1:09:04] OK? The lawyer should have been telling the school committee, uh, uh, you guys. are trustees. [1:09:05] telling the school committee, uh, uh, you guys. are trustees. [1:09:06] telling the school committee, uh, uh, you guys. are trustees. I mean, I can give you advice [1:09:08] uh, uh, you guys. are trustees. I mean, I can give you advice [1:09:08] uh, uh, you guys. are trustees. I mean, I can give you advice on what to trust and what isn't [1:09:10] I mean, I can give you advice on what to trust and what isn't [1:09:10] I mean, I can give you advice on what to trust and what isn't a trust in your custody and [1:09:12] on what to trust and what isn't a trust in your custody and [1:09:12] on what to trust and what isn't a trust in your custody and tell you you have to hand these [1:09:13] a trust in your custody and tell you you have to hand these [1:09:13] a trust in your custody and tell you you have to hand these over, right, or allow these to [1:09:15] tell you you have to hand these over, right, or allow these to [1:09:15] tell you you have to hand these over, right, or allow these to be reviewed. I can give you [1:09:16] over, right, or allow these to be reviewed. I can give you [1:09:16] over, right, or allow these to be reviewed. I can give you that advice, but I can't sit [1:09:18] be reviewed. I can give you that advice, but I can't sit [1:09:18] be reviewed. I can give you that advice, but I can't sit there and say, uh, you know, oh [1:09:21] that advice, but I can't sit there and say, uh, you know, oh [1:09:21] that advice, but I can't sit there and say, uh, you know, oh they can't see it, they can't [1:09:21] there and say, uh, you know, oh they can't see it, they can't [1:09:22] there and say, uh, you know, oh they can't see it, they can't have, I can't do that. You, you [1:09:23] they can't see it, they can't have, I can't do that. You, you [1:09:24] they can't see it, they can't have, I can't do that. You, you guys are the trustees, OK? And [1:09:26] have, I can't do that. You, you guys are the trustees, OK? And [1:09:26] have, I can't do that. You, you guys are the trustees, OK? And if they violate trusteeship, [1:09:28] guys are the trustees, OK? And if they violate trusteeship, [1:09:28] guys are the trustees, OK? And if they violate trusteeship, each one of them, OK, is next, [1:09:30] if they violate trusteeship, each one of them, OK, is next, [1:09:30] if they violate trusteeship, each one of them, OK, is next, OK, being reported as being [1:09:32] each one of them, OK, is next, OK, being reported as being [1:09:32] each one of them, OK, is next, OK, being reported as being trustees in violation of the [1:09:34] OK, being reported as being trustees in violation of the [1:09:34] OK, being reported as being trustees in violation of the trust statute under Chapter 2. [1:09:35] trustees in violation of the trust statute under Chapter 2. [1:09:35] trustees in violation of the trust statute under Chapter 2. 3. And as trustees on this [1:09:37] trust statute under Chapter 2. 3. And as trustees on this [1:09:37] trust statute under Chapter 2. 3. And as trustees on this commission, I don't need the [1:09:39] 3. And as trustees on this commission, I don't need the [1:09:39] 3. And as trustees on this commission, I don't need the vote of this commission to make [1:09:41] commission, I don't need the vote of this commission to make [1:09:41] commission, I don't need the vote of this commission to make those you individually. I can [1:09:42] vote of this commission to make those you individually. I can [1:09:42] vote of this commission to make those you individually. I can individually do that as a [1:09:44] those you individually. I can individually do that as a [1:09:44] those you individually. I can individually do that as a trustee here saying that [1:09:46] individually do that as a trustee here saying that [1:09:46] individually do that as a trustee here saying that they're a trustees, OK, [1:09:48] trustee here saying that they're a trustees, OK, [1:09:48] trustee here saying that they're a trustees, OK, involved in the same [1:09:50] they're a trustees, OK, involved in the same [1:09:51] they're a trustees, OK, involved in the same documentation which I am [1:09:52] involved in the same documentation which I am [1:09:52] involved in the same documentation which I am allowed, OK, but I would prefer [1:09:54] documentation which I am allowed, OK, but I would prefer [1:09:54] documentation which I am allowed, OK, but I would prefer the board agree that we do that [1:09:55] allowed, OK, but I would prefer the board agree that we do that [1:09:55] allowed, OK, but I would prefer the board agree that we do that as opposed to me do it [1:09:57] the board agree that we do that as opposed to me do it [1:09:57] the board agree that we do that as opposed to me do it individually, but I can't take [1:09:58] as opposed to me do it individually, but I can't take [1:09:58] as opposed to me do it individually, but I can't take that unilateral action in [1:09:59] individually, but I can't take that unilateral action in [1:09:59] individually, but I can't take that unilateral action in Chapter 203. So can't you. So [1:10:02] that unilateral action in Chapter 203. So can't you. So [1:10:02] that unilateral action in Chapter 203. So can't you. So can't they. OK. Like if we were [1:10:06] Chapter 203. So can't you. So can't they. OK. Like if we were [1:10:06] Chapter 203. So can't you. So can't they. OK. Like if we were holding to the trust that gave [1:10:07] can't they. OK. Like if we were holding to the trust that gave [1:10:07] can't they. OK. Like if we were holding to the trust that gave a scholarship to a kid and we [1:10:08] holding to the trust that gave a scholarship to a kid and we [1:10:09] holding to the trust that gave a scholarship to a kid and we saw something different in the [1:10:10] a scholarship to a kid and we saw something different in the [1:10:10] a scholarship to a kid and we saw something different in the Declaration, but it really [1:10:11] saw something different in the Declaration, but it really [1:10:11] saw something different in the Declaration, but it really wasn't different, do you know [1:10:12] Declaration, but it really wasn't different, do you know [1:10:12] Declaration, but it really wasn't different, do you know what I'm saying? It was like [1:10:15] wasn't different, do you know what I'm saying? It was like [1:10:15] wasn't different, do you know what I'm saying? It was like somebody's trying to, you know, [1:10:15] what I'm saying? It was like somebody's trying to, you know, [1:10:15] what I'm saying? It was like somebody's trying to, you know, I don't want that kid to get it [1:10:16] somebody's trying to, you know, I don't want that kid to get it [1:10:16] somebody's trying to, you know, I don't want that kid to get it you know what I mean, or, which [1:10:18] I don't want that kid to get it you know what I mean, or, which [1:10:18] I don't want that kid to get it you know what I mean, or, which better never happen. I'll be in [1:10:19] you know what I mean, or, which better never happen. I'll be in [1:10:19] you know what I mean, or, which better never happen. I'll be in here screaming from a podium [1:10:20] better never happen. I'll be in here screaming from a podium [1:10:20] better never happen. I'll be in here screaming from a podium again. Do you know what I mean? [1:10:22] here screaming from a podium again. Do you know what I mean? [1:10:22] here screaming from a podium again. Do you know what I mean? But, um, But you know, then [1:10:26] again. Do you know what I mean? But, um, But you know, then [1:10:26] again. Do you know what I mean? But, um, But you know, then that, that's a, that's, you [1:10:27] But, um, But you know, then that, that's a, that's, you [1:10:27] But, um, But you know, then that, that's a, that's, you know, somebody can unilaterally [1:10:28] that, that's a, that's, you know, somebody can unilaterally [1:10:28] that, that's a, that's, you know, somebody can unilaterally take action, you know, if the [1:10:29] know, somebody can unilaterally take action, you know, if the [1:10:29] know, somebody can unilaterally take action, you know, if the board doesn't want to, it [1:10:31] take action, you know, if the board doesn't want to, it [1:10:31] take action, you know, if the board doesn't want to, it doesn't matter. Trustee is a [1:10:31] board doesn't want to, it doesn't matter. Trustee is a [1:10:31] board doesn't want to, it doesn't matter. Trustee is a trustee, he's an individual. [1:10:33] doesn't matter. Trustee is a trustee, he's an individual. [1:10:33] doesn't matter. Trustee is a trustee, he's an individual. Woodward says it. Right, does [1:10:35] trustee, he's an individual. Woodward says it. Right, does [1:10:35] trustee, he's an individual. Woodward says it. Right, does not matter what the lawyer says [1:10:37] Woodward says it. Right, does not matter what the lawyer says [1:10:37] Woodward says it. Right, does not matter what the lawyer says Everybody, everybody defaults [1:10:38] not matter what the lawyer says Everybody, everybody defaults [1:10:38] not matter what the lawyer says Everybody, everybody defaults to the lawyer. I love it [1:10:40] Everybody, everybody defaults to the lawyer. I love it [1:10:40] Everybody, everybody defaults to the lawyer. I love it because that case, they went, [1:10:40] to the lawyer. I love it because that case, they went, [1:10:40] to the lawyer. I love it because that case, they went, well, the lawyer said, the [1:10:42] because that case, they went, well, the lawyer said, the [1:10:42] because that case, they went, well, the lawyer said, the court went, the SJC went, we [1:10:45] well, the lawyer said, the court went, the SJC went, we [1:10:45] well, the lawyer said, the court went, the SJC went, we don't care. The lawyer is not [1:10:48] court went, the SJC went, we don't care. The lawyer is not [1:10:48] court went, the SJC went, we don't care. The lawyer is not chapter 203C. Uh, and the [1:10:54] don't care. The lawyer is not chapter 203C. Uh, and the [1:10:54] don't care. The lawyer is not chapter 203C. Uh, and the lawyer should have told you [1:10:55] chapter 203C. Uh, and the lawyer should have told you [1:10:55] chapter 203C. Uh, and the lawyer should have told you that. I can guarantee you, [1:10:57] lawyer should have told you that. I can guarantee you, [1:10:58] lawyer should have told you that. I can guarantee you, right? If that was, uh, uh, uh. [1:11:03] that. I can guarantee you, right? If that was, uh, uh, uh. [1:11:03] that. I can guarantee you, right? If that was, uh, uh, uh. I would love to hear the record [1:11:05] right? If that was, uh, uh, uh. I would love to hear the record [1:11:05] right? If that was, uh, uh, uh. I would love to hear the record on that. And hear that lawyer [1:11:07] I would love to hear the record on that. And hear that lawyer [1:11:07] I would love to hear the record on that. And hear that lawyer argue. The lawyer told me so, [1:11:09] on that. And hear that lawyer argue. The lawyer told me so, [1:11:09] on that. And hear that lawyer argue. The lawyer told me so, and the judge reprimand the [1:11:11] argue. The lawyer told me so, and the judge reprimand the [1:11:11] argue. The lawyer told me so, and the judge reprimand the lawyer going, you should [1:11:13] and the judge reprimand the lawyer going, you should [1:11:13] and the judge reprimand the lawyer going, you should already know that. What are you [1:11:14] lawyer going, you should already know that. What are you [1:11:14] lawyer going, you should already know that. What are you talking about? Are you serious? [1:11:16] already know that. What are you talking about? Are you serious? [1:11:16] already know that. What are you talking about? Are you serious? Right. Do you know what I'm [1:11:18] talking about? Are you serious? Right. Do you know what I'm [1:11:18] talking about? Are you serious? Right. Do you know what I'm saying? You of all people [1:11:19] Right. Do you know what I'm saying? You of all people [1:11:19] Right. Do you know what I'm saying? You of all people should already know that answer [1:11:21] saying? You of all people should already know that answer [1:11:21] saying? You of all people should already know that answer You know, than to make that [1:11:23] should already know that answer You know, than to make that [1:11:23] should already know that answer You know, than to make that claim. The lawyer told me so. [1:11:25] You know, than to make that claim. The lawyer told me so. [1:11:25] You know, than to make that claim. The lawyer told me so. That's like Norman Berg for [1:11:29] claim. The lawyer told me so. That's like Norman Berg for [1:11:29] claim. The lawyer told me so. That's like Norman Berg for lawyers. I only did it because [1:11:31] That's like Norman Berg for lawyers. I only did it because [1:11:31] That's like Norman Berg for lawyers. I only did it because I got told to do it. That's [1:11:32] lawyers. I only did it because I got told to do it. That's [1:11:32] lawyers. I only did it because I got told to do it. That's coming in, yep. What's at [1:11:36] I got told to do it. That's coming in, yep. What's at [1:11:36] I got told to do it. That's coming in, yep. What's at Nuremberg syndrome, they call [1:11:36] coming in, yep. What's at Nuremberg syndrome, they call [1:11:37] coming in, yep. What's at Nuremberg syndrome, they call that, right? Right, I was only [1:11:39] Nuremberg syndrome, they call that, right? Right, I was only [1:11:39] Nuremberg syndrome, they call that, right? Right, I was only doing what I was told. you know [1:11:43] that, right? Right, I was only doing what I was told. you know [1:11:43] that, right? Right, I was only doing what I was told. you know what you were being told was [1:11:44] doing what I was told. you know what you were being told was [1:11:44] doing what I was told. you know what you were being told was illegal. That's what my nine [1:11:45] what you were being told was illegal. That's what my nine [1:11:45] what you were being told was illegal. That's what my nine year old, that's what my nine [1:11:47] illegal. That's what my nine year old, that's what my nine [1:11:47] illegal. That's what my nine year old, that's what my nine year old daughter said. I mean, [1:11:48] year old, that's what my nine year old daughter said. I mean, [1:11:48] year old, that's what my nine year old daughter said. I mean, oh, she was 7 at the time, yeah [1:11:50] year old daughter said. I mean, oh, she was 7 at the time, yeah [1:11:50] year old daughter said. I mean, oh, she was 7 at the time, yeah she was 7. This was years ago. [1:11:52] oh, she was 7 at the time, yeah she was 7. This was years ago. [1:11:52] oh, she was 7 at the time, yeah she was 7. This was years ago. Mom told me I could. Oh, well [1:11:56] she was 7. This was years ago. Mom told me I could. Oh, well [1:11:56] she was 7. This was years ago. Mom told me I could. Oh, well she did. I go. You're lucky [1:11:59] Mom told me I could. Oh, well she did. I go. You're lucky [1:11:59] Mom told me I could. Oh, well she did. I go. You're lucky you're not of the age to be [1:12:01] she did. I go. You're lucky you're not of the age to be [1:12:01] she did. I go. You're lucky you're not of the age to be able to know better. OK. Do you [1:12:05] you're not of the age to be able to know better. OK. Do you [1:12:05] you're not of the age to be able to know better. OK. Do you know what I mean? What do you [1:12:06] able to know better. OK. Do you know what I mean? What do you [1:12:06] able to know better. OK. Do you know what I mean? What do you do to a seven year old when [1:12:07] know what I mean? What do you do to a seven year old when [1:12:07] know what I mean? What do you do to a seven year old when they go, Mom told me I could. [1:12:10] do to a seven year old when they go, Mom told me I could. [1:12:10] do to a seven year old when they go, Mom told me I could. Rudy Dogo. You can't tell him [1:12:12] they go, Mom told me I could. Rudy Dogo. You can't tell him [1:12:12] they go, Mom told me I could. Rudy Dogo. You can't tell him to do that. No, you just go, oh [1:12:14] Rudy Dogo. You can't tell him to do that. No, you just go, oh [1:12:14] Rudy Dogo. You can't tell him to do that. No, you just go, oh OK, you have the conversation [1:12:15] to do that. No, you just go, oh OK, you have the conversation [1:12:15] to do that. No, you just go, oh OK, you have the conversation later and be like, you know, [1:12:17] OK, you have the conversation later and be like, you know, [1:12:17] OK, you have the conversation later and be like, you know, you told me, you told, yeah, I [1:12:17] later and be like, you know, you told me, you told, yeah, I [1:12:17] later and be like, you know, you told me, you told, yeah, I did. Oh, OK. That's how I [1:12:21] you told me, you told, yeah, I did. Oh, OK. That's how I [1:12:21] you told me, you told, yeah, I did. Oh, OK. That's how I handled it. I said, sure. Right [1:12:28] did. Oh, OK. That's how I handled it. I said, sure. Right [1:12:28] did. Oh, OK. That's how I handled it. I said, sure. Right Pretty good, huh? Yep. So, Any [1:12:37] handled it. I said, sure. Right Pretty good, huh? Yep. So, Any [1:12:37] handled it. I said, sure. Right Pretty good, huh? Yep. So, Any other comment? I have no [1:12:39] Pretty good, huh? Yep. So, Any other comment? I have no [1:12:39] Pretty good, huh? Yep. So, Any other comment? I have no further comment. You're right. [1:12:44] other comment? I have no further comment. You're right. [1:12:44] other comment? I have no further comment. You're right. Meeting minutes ratification. [1:12:46] further comment. You're right. Meeting minutes ratification. [1:12:46] further comment. You're right. Meeting minutes ratification. All right, so, I just wanted to [1:12:50] Meeting minutes ratification. All right, so, I just wanted to [1:12:50] Meeting minutes ratification. All right, so, I just wanted to um, Look here. Right? If we go [1:12:55] All right, so, I just wanted to um, Look here. Right? If we go [1:12:55] All right, so, I just wanted to um, Look here. Right? If we go to Um, The agenda center. Uh, [1:13:04] um, Look here. Right? If we go to Um, The agenda center. Uh, [1:13:04] um, Look here. Right? If we go to Um, The agenda center. Uh, you're going to see. And I [1:13:06] to Um, The agenda center. Uh, you're going to see. And I [1:13:06] to Um, The agenda center. Uh, you're going to see. And I looked back. And I, I swear to [1:13:09] you're going to see. And I looked back. And I, I swear to [1:13:09] you're going to see. And I looked back. And I, I swear to God that we did this, but we're [1:13:11] looked back. And I, I swear to God that we did this, but we're [1:13:11] looked back. And I, I swear to God that we did this, but we're gonna do, I don't have time to [1:13:13] God that we did this, but we're gonna do, I don't have time to [1:13:13] God that we did this, but we're gonna do, I don't have time to be like, you know, research in [1:13:15] gonna do, I don't have time to be like, you know, research in [1:13:15] gonna do, I don't have time to be like, you know, research in every meeting and You know, uh, [1:13:17] be like, you know, research in every meeting and You know, uh, [1:13:18] be like, you know, research in every meeting and You know, uh, I, I looked at the minutes. [1:13:19] every meeting and You know, uh, I, I looked at the minutes. [1:13:19] every meeting and You know, uh, I, I looked at the minutes. I've read these minutes, we [1:13:20] I, I looked at the minutes. I've read these minutes, we [1:13:20] I, I looked at the minutes. I've read these minutes, we have these minutes. These [1:13:21] I've read these minutes, we have these minutes. These [1:13:22] I've read these minutes, we have these minutes. These minutes are here. Do you know [1:13:22] have these minutes. These minutes are here. Do you know [1:13:22] have these minutes. These minutes are here. Do you know what I mean? And I know that [1:13:26] minutes are here. Do you know what I mean? And I know that [1:13:26] minutes are here. Do you know what I mean? And I know that there was a period of time [1:13:27] what I mean? And I know that there was a period of time [1:13:27] what I mean? And I know that there was a period of time where we lost 5. Uh, are you [1:13:29] there was a period of time where we lost 5. Uh, are you [1:13:29] there was a period of time where we lost 5. Uh, are you talking what's posted to the [1:13:31] where we lost 5. Uh, are you talking what's posted to the [1:13:31] where we lost 5. Uh, are you talking what's posted to the town? Yeah, OK, OK, so the town [1:13:35] talking what's posted to the town? Yeah, OK, OK, so the town [1:13:35] talking what's posted to the town? Yeah, OK, OK, so the town is saying. That And I know this [1:13:38] town? Yeah, OK, OK, so the town is saying. That And I know this [1:13:38] town? Yeah, OK, OK, so the town is saying. That And I know this is, I know in February we voted [1:13:40] is saying. That And I know this is, I know in February we voted [1:13:40] is saying. That And I know this is, I know in February we voted a lot of minutes, OK, uh, the [1:13:45] is, I know in February we voted a lot of minutes, OK, uh, the [1:13:45] is, I know in February we voted a lot of minutes, OK, uh, the minutes for, uh, December 18th, [1:13:49] a lot of minutes, OK, uh, the minutes for, uh, December 18th, [1:13:49] a lot of minutes, OK, uh, the minutes for, uh, December 18th, the minutes for November 13th. [1:13:52] minutes for, uh, December 18th, the minutes for November 13th. [1:13:52] minutes for, uh, December 18th, the minutes for November 13th. The minutes for October 23rd. I [1:13:56] the minutes for November 13th. The minutes for October 23rd. I [1:13:56] the minutes for November 13th. The minutes for October 23rd. I know we voted on those in [1:13:58] The minutes for October 23rd. I know we voted on those in [1:13:58] The minutes for October 23rd. I know we voted on those in February, I think. Do you need [1:14:03] know we voted on those in February, I think. Do you need [1:14:03] know we voted on those in February, I think. Do you need to take a minute to look back, [1:14:05] February, I think. Do you need to take a minute to look back, [1:14:05] February, I think. Do you need to take a minute to look back, or, well, I mean, you were [1:14:07] to take a minute to look back, or, well, I mean, you were [1:14:07] to take a minute to look back, or, well, I mean, you were writing them. Yeah, could you [1:14:09] or, well, I mean, you were writing them. Yeah, could you [1:14:09] or, well, I mean, you were writing them. Yeah, could you please repeat that? Yeah, [1:14:11] writing them. Yeah, could you please repeat that? Yeah, [1:14:11] writing them. Yeah, could you please repeat that? Yeah, December 18th December 18th. [1:14:14] please repeat that? Yeah, December 18th December 18th. [1:14:14] please repeat that? Yeah, December 18th December 18th. November 13th November 13th and [1:14:16] December 18th December 18th. November 13th November 13th and [1:14:16] December 18th December 18th. November 13th November 13th and October 23rd. OK. OK. Yes, uh. [1:14:45] November 13th November 13th and October 23rd. OK. OK. Yes, uh. [1:14:45] November 13th November 13th and October 23rd. OK. OK. Yes, uh. I see, I have the file, trust [1:14:47] October 23rd. OK. OK. Yes, uh. I see, I have the file, trust [1:14:47] October 23rd. OK. OK. Yes, uh. I see, I have the file, trust fund 1023. Yeah. 13th and [1:15:06] I see, I have the file, trust fund 1023. Yeah. 13th and [1:15:06] I see, I have the file, trust fund 1023. Yeah. 13th and December 18th. 13th. I see the [1:15:35] fund 1023. Yeah. 13th and December 18th. 13th. I see the [1:15:35] fund 1023. Yeah. 13th and December 18th. 13th. I see the um Semi file store in a couple [1:15:50] December 18th. 13th. I see the um Semi file store in a couple [1:15:50] December 18th. 13th. I see the um Semi file store in a couple of places, so. Definitely one [1:15:53] um Semi file store in a couple of places, so. Definitely one [1:15:53] um Semi file store in a couple of places, so. Definitely one of those 3 I do see in my um In [1:15:59] of places, so. Definitely one of those 3 I do see in my um In [1:15:59] of places, so. Definitely one of those 3 I do see in my um In my documents, I don't know if [1:16:01] of those 3 I do see in my um In my documents, I don't know if [1:16:01] of those 3 I do see in my um In my documents, I don't know if I've uploaded them to our to [1:16:04] my documents, I don't know if I've uploaded them to our to [1:16:04] my documents, I don't know if I've uploaded them to our to our public. Um, so I'm looking [1:16:07] I've uploaded them to our to our public. Um, so I'm looking [1:16:07] I've uploaded them to our to our public. Um, so I'm looking at Throw the dates at me. [1:16:11] our public. Um, so I'm looking at Throw the dates at me. [1:16:11] our public. Um, so I'm looking at Throw the dates at me. Because I'm in the file right [1:16:13] at Throw the dates at me. Because I'm in the file right [1:16:13] at Throw the dates at me. Because I'm in the file right now. So, because I looked, I [1:16:15] Because I'm in the file right now. So, because I looked, I [1:16:15] Because I'm in the file right now. So, because I looked, I was looking earlier last week, [1:16:17] now. So, because I looked, I was looking earlier last week, [1:16:17] now. So, because I looked, I was looking earlier last week, so. Right. So 2025 meeting [1:16:26] was looking earlier last week, so. Right. So 2025 meeting [1:16:27] was looking earlier last week, so. Right. So 2025 meeting minutes. Right? I have November [1:16:31] so. Right. So 2025 meeting minutes. Right? I have November [1:16:31] so. Right. So 2025 meeting minutes. Right? I have November 13th. November 25th, Yeah [1:16:39] minutes. Right? I have November 13th. November 25th, Yeah [1:16:40] minutes. Right? I have November 13th. November 25th, Yeah October 23rd. Why does Tom I [1:17:21] 13th. November 25th, Yeah October 23rd. Why does Tom I [1:17:21] 13th. November 25th, Yeah October 23rd. Why does Tom I 202. I see October 23rd. I see. [1:18:08] October 23rd. Why does Tom I 202. I see October 23rd. I see. [1:18:08] October 23rd. Why does Tom I 202. I see October 23rd. I see. 13. See November 13th. And I [1:18:17] 202. I see October 23rd. I see. 13. See November 13th. And I [1:18:17] 202. I see October 23rd. I see. 13. See November 13th. And I see December 18th, I don't see. [1:18:28] 13. See November 13th. And I see December 18th, I don't see. [1:18:28] 13. See November 13th. And I see December 18th, I don't see. Yeah, I didn't see that one. [1:18:30] see December 18th, I don't see. Yeah, I didn't see that one. [1:18:30] see December 18th, I don't see. Yeah, I didn't see that one. That's, that's why I said there [1:18:31] Yeah, I didn't see that one. That's, that's why I said there [1:18:31] Yeah, I didn't see that one. That's, that's why I said there was one, there was one that I, [1:18:32] That's, that's why I said there was one, there was one that I, [1:18:32] That's, that's why I said there was one, there was one that I, I, I know there was one I [1:18:33] was one, there was one that I, I, I know there was one I [1:18:33] was one, there was one that I, I, I know there was one I didn't see at all those 3 [1:18:37] I, I know there was one I didn't see at all those 3 [1:18:38] I, I know there was one I didn't see at all those 3 December 18th, but the other [1:18:39] didn't see at all those 3 December 18th, but the other [1:18:39] didn't see at all those 3 December 18th, but the other ones were there. Did we even [1:18:41] December 18th, but the other ones were there. Did we even [1:18:41] December 18th, but the other ones were there. Did we even meet on December 18th? Yeah, it [1:18:44] ones were there. Did we even meet on December 18th? Yeah, it [1:18:44] ones were there. Did we even meet on December 18th? Yeah, it it got amended, I think. That [1:18:46] meet on December 18th? Yeah, it it got amended, I think. That [1:18:46] meet on December 18th? Yeah, it it got amended, I think. That was an amended agenda item. I [1:19:02] it got amended, I think. That was an amended agenda item. I [1:19:02] it got amended, I think. That was an amended agenda item. I apologize, Mr. Chair, I need to [1:19:02] was an amended agenda item. I apologize, Mr. Chair, I need to [1:19:03] was an amended agenda item. I apologize, Mr. Chair, I need to get a little better at getting [1:19:04] apologize, Mr. Chair, I need to get a little better at getting [1:19:04] apologize, Mr. Chair, I need to get a little better at getting these out more timely so we [1:19:05] get a little better at getting these out more timely so we [1:19:05] get a little better at getting these out more timely so we wouldn't have these buildup of [1:19:08] these out more timely so we wouldn't have these buildup of [1:19:08] these out more timely so we wouldn't have these buildup of a backlog. Yeah, it's all right [1:19:09] wouldn't have these buildup of a backlog. Yeah, it's all right [1:19:09] wouldn't have these buildup of a backlog. Yeah, it's all right I mean, they're not, I think [1:19:11] a backlog. Yeah, it's all right I mean, they're not, I think [1:19:11] a backlog. Yeah, it's all right I mean, they're not, I think that, well, it was a holiday [1:19:11] I mean, they're not, I think that, well, it was a holiday [1:19:11] I mean, they're not, I think that, well, it was a holiday too. So I think what happened [1:19:13] that, well, it was a holiday too. So I think what happened [1:19:13] that, well, it was a holiday too. So I think what happened was, is, uh, when January hit, [1:19:16] too. So I think what happened was, is, uh, when January hit, [1:19:16] too. So I think what happened was, is, uh, when January hit, Uh, we got a little behind. But [1:19:20] was, is, uh, when January hit, Uh, we got a little behind. But [1:19:20] was, is, uh, when January hit, Uh, we got a little behind. But the uh I didn't see. Because I [1:19:26] Uh, we got a little behind. But the uh I didn't see. Because I [1:19:26] Uh, we got a little behind. But the uh I didn't see. Because I looked in, um, I looked through [1:19:29] the uh I didn't see. Because I looked in, um, I looked through [1:19:29] the uh I didn't see. Because I looked in, um, I looked through the emails cause you usually [1:19:29] looked in, um, I looked through the emails cause you usually [1:19:29] looked in, um, I looked through the emails cause you usually send them to me via email. And [1:19:33] the emails cause you usually send them to me via email. And [1:19:33] the emails cause you usually send them to me via email. And I didn't see. Some of those, [1:19:36] send them to me via email. And I didn't see. Some of those, [1:19:36] send them to me via email. And I didn't see. Some of those, you know, like, uh, You know, [1:19:40] I didn't see. Some of those, you know, like, uh, You know, [1:19:40] I didn't see. Some of those, you know, like, uh, You know, there's the warrant article. [1:19:43] you know, like, uh, You know, there's the warrant article. [1:19:43] you know, like, uh, You know, there's the warrant article. Well, speaking of that, I want [1:19:45] there's the warrant article. Well, speaking of that, I want [1:19:45] there's the warrant article. Well, speaking of that, I want to talk about uh the warren [1:19:47] Well, speaking of that, I want to talk about uh the warren [1:19:47] Well, speaking of that, I want to talk about uh the warren article real quick. So the [1:19:50] to talk about uh the warren article real quick. So the [1:19:50] to talk about uh the warren article real quick. So the warrant article has been [1:19:51] article real quick. So the warrant article has been [1:19:51] article real quick. So the warrant article has been rewritten. OK. And um I want to [1:19:58] warrant article has been rewritten. OK. And um I want to [1:19:58] warrant article has been rewritten. OK. And um I want to just clarify, um, that we took [1:20:00] rewritten. OK. And um I want to just clarify, um, that we took [1:20:00] rewritten. OK. And um I want to just clarify, um, that we took into consideration all the [1:20:01] just clarify, um, that we took into consideration all the [1:20:01] just clarify, um, that we took into consideration all the lawyer's information because [1:20:02] into consideration all the lawyer's information because [1:20:02] into consideration all the lawyer's information because nobody got back with me. But I [1:20:03] lawyer's information because nobody got back with me. But I [1:20:03] lawyer's information because nobody got back with me. But I went through the lawyers' [1:20:05] nobody got back with me. But I went through the lawyers' [1:20:05] nobody got back with me. But I went through the lawyers' meeting and everything else. [1:20:07] went through the lawyers' meeting and everything else. [1:20:08] went through the lawyers' meeting and everything else. And, um, We changed, um, the [1:20:18] meeting and everything else. And, um, We changed, um, the [1:20:18] meeting and everything else. And, um, We changed, um, the wording. OK. Which is real [1:20:32] And, um, We changed, um, the wording. OK. Which is real [1:20:32] And, um, We changed, um, the wording. OK. Which is real quick to look at. Um Last thing [1:20:50] wording. OK. Which is real quick to look at. Um Last thing [1:20:50] wording. OK. Which is real quick to look at. Um Last thing on the agenda here. No, stop. [1:21:03] quick to look at. Um Last thing on the agenda here. No, stop. [1:21:03] quick to look at. Um Last thing on the agenda here. No, stop. OK. All right, so this is what, [1:22:14] on the agenda here. No, stop. OK. All right, so this is what, [1:22:14] on the agenda here. No, stop. OK. All right, so this is what, um, Uh, what we changed. So I [1:22:22] OK. All right, so this is what, um, Uh, what we changed. So I [1:22:22] OK. All right, so this is what, um, Uh, what we changed. So I just want to put this out there [1:22:41] um, Uh, what we changed. So I just want to put this out there [1:22:41] um, Uh, what we changed. So I just want to put this out there Just work with me. Oh, do you [1:22:56] just want to put this out there Just work with me. Oh, do you [1:22:56] just want to put this out there Just work with me. Oh, do you know? So just bear with me a [1:23:14] Just work with me. Oh, do you know? So just bear with me a [1:23:14] Just work with me. Oh, do you know? So just bear with me a second. Yeah yeah, yeah, right. [1:23:50] know? So just bear with me a second. Yeah yeah, yeah, right. [1:23:50] know? So just bear with me a second. Yeah yeah, yeah, right. All right, so I just want to [1:23:50] second. Yeah yeah, yeah, right. All right, so I just want to [1:23:50] second. Yeah yeah, yeah, right. All right, so I just want to read this real quick to you. So [1:23:55] All right, so I just want to read this real quick to you. So [1:23:55] All right, so I just want to read this real quick to you. So um, to, uh, this is the article [1:23:56] read this real quick to you. So um, to, uh, this is the article [1:23:56] read this real quick to you. So um, to, uh, this is the article uh, where we change the things. [1:23:57] um, to, uh, this is the article uh, where we change the things. [1:23:57] um, to, uh, this is the article uh, where we change the things. Remember that your lawyer had [1:23:59] uh, where we change the things. Remember that your lawyer had [1:23:59] uh, where we change the things. Remember that your lawyer had mentioned a bunch of things. So [1:24:01] Remember that your lawyer had mentioned a bunch of things. So [1:24:01] Remember that your lawyer had mentioned a bunch of things. So I just wanted to go over this [1:24:02] mentioned a bunch of things. So I just wanted to go over this [1:24:02] mentioned a bunch of things. So I just wanted to go over this real quick, um, because we said [1:24:04] I just wanted to go over this real quick, um, because we said [1:24:04] I just wanted to go over this real quick, um, because we said that we would just amend it to [1:24:05] real quick, um, because we said that we would just amend it to [1:24:05] real quick, um, because we said that we would just amend it to those things, and I had done [1:24:08] that we would just amend it to those things, and I had done [1:24:08] that we would just amend it to those things, and I had done that in Uh, this, and we'll be [1:24:10] those things, and I had done that in Uh, this, and we'll be [1:24:10] those things, and I had done that in Uh, this, and we'll be able to give a presentation to [1:24:12] that in Uh, this, and we'll be able to give a presentation to [1:24:12] that in Uh, this, and we'll be able to give a presentation to the board, so it says, Town of [1:24:14] able to give a presentation to the board, so it says, Town of [1:24:14] able to give a presentation to the board, so it says, Town of Lunenburg, Massachusetts, [1:24:15] the board, so it says, Town of Lunenburg, Massachusetts, [1:24:15] the board, so it says, Town of Lunenburg, Massachusetts, Special town meeting, November [1:24:17] Lunenburg, Massachusetts, Special town meeting, November [1:24:17] Lunenburg, Massachusetts, Special town meeting, November 17, 2026, the article, whatever [1:24:21] Special town meeting, November 17, 2026, the article, whatever [1:24:21] Special town meeting, November 17, 2026, the article, whatever number they select for it, it [1:24:22] 17, 2026, the article, whatever number they select for it, it [1:24:22] 17, 2026, the article, whatever number they select for it, it is called the continuity of [1:24:25] number they select for it, it is called the continuity of [1:24:25] number they select for it, it is called the continuity of Trust Fund Administration [1:24:26] is called the continuity of Trust Fund Administration [1:24:26] is called the continuity of Trust Fund Administration during vacancy on the board of [1:24:26] Trust Fund Administration during vacancy on the board of [1:24:27] Trust Fund Administration during vacancy on the board of commissioners of trust funds. [1:24:28] during vacancy on the board of commissioners of trust funds. [1:24:28] during vacancy on the board of commissioners of trust funds. To see if the town will vote to [1:24:31] commissioners of trust funds. To see if the town will vote to [1:24:31] commissioners of trust funds. To see if the town will vote to amend the general bylaws of the [1:24:33] To see if the town will vote to amend the general bylaws of the [1:24:33] To see if the town will vote to amend the general bylaws of the town of Lunenburg by adding to [1:24:35] amend the general bylaws of the town of Lunenburg by adding to [1:24:35] amend the general bylaws of the town of Lunenburg by adding to chapter 12 boards, commissions [1:24:35] town of Lunenburg by adding to chapter 12 boards, commissions [1:24:35] town of Lunenburg by adding to chapter 12 boards, commissions and committees. A new Article [1:24:38] chapter 12 boards, commissions and committees. A new Article [1:24:38] chapter 12 boards, commissions and committees. A new Article 10 entitled Continuity of Trust [1:24:40] and committees. A new Article 10 entitled Continuity of Trust [1:24:40] and committees. A new Article 10 entitled Continuity of Trust Fund Administration during [1:24:42] 10 entitled Continuity of Trust Fund Administration during [1:24:42] 10 entitled Continuity of Trust Fund Administration during vacancy on the board of [1:24:42] Fund Administration during vacancy on the board of [1:24:42] Fund Administration during vacancy on the board of commissioners of trust funds [1:24:44] vacancy on the board of commissioners of trust funds [1:24:44] vacancy on the board of commissioners of trust funds consisting of the section set [1:24:45] commissioners of trust funds consisting of the section set [1:24:45] commissioners of trust funds consisting of the section set forth in the text on file with [1:24:47] consisting of the section set forth in the text on file with [1:24:47] consisting of the section set forth in the text on file with the town clerk and to be [1:24:48] forth in the text on file with the town clerk and to be [1:24:49] forth in the text on file with the town clerk and to be numbered by the town clerk in [1:24:50] the town clerk and to be numbered by the town clerk in [1:24:50] the town clerk and to be numbered by the town clerk in sequence or codification, which [1:24:53] numbered by the town clerk in sequence or codification, which [1:24:53] numbered by the town clerk in sequence or codification, which one establishes deadlines for [1:24:55] sequence or codification, which one establishes deadlines for [1:24:55] sequence or codification, which one establishes deadlines for filing filling a vacancy on the [1:24:55] one establishes deadlines for filing filling a vacancy on the [1:24:55] one establishes deadlines for filing filling a vacancy on the board of commissioners and [1:24:57] filing filling a vacancy on the board of commissioners and [1:24:57] filing filling a vacancy on the board of commissioners and trust funds under Section 31F. [1:24:58] board of commissioners and trust funds under Section 31F. [1:24:58] board of commissioners and trust funds under Section 31F. Two of the charter, 2 provides [1:25:01] trust funds under Section 31F. Two of the charter, 2 provides [1:25:01] trust funds under Section 31F. Two of the charter, 2 provides that while fewer than 2 members [1:25:02] Two of the charter, 2 provides that while fewer than 2 members [1:25:02] Two of the charter, 2 provides that while fewer than 2 members of the board of commissioner [1:25:04] that while fewer than 2 members of the board of commissioner [1:25:04] that while fewer than 2 members of the board of commissioner trust funds are in office. At [1:25:05] of the board of commissioner trust funds are in office. At [1:25:05] of the board of commissioner trust funds are in office. At least one member remains in [1:25:06] trust funds are in office. At least one member remains in [1:25:06] trust funds are in office. At least one member remains in office, a distribution of [1:25:08] least one member remains in office, a distribution of [1:25:08] least one member remains in office, a distribution of expendable earnings to an [1:25:09] office, a distribution of expendable earnings to an [1:25:09] office, a distribution of expendable earnings to an individual beneficiary from a [1:25:11] expendable earnings to an individual beneficiary from a [1:25:11] expendable earnings to an individual beneficiary from a trust fund under the management [1:25:12] individual beneficiary from a trust fund under the management [1:25:12] individual beneficiary from a trust fund under the management of said board pursuant to 41 [1:25:15] trust fund under the management of said board pursuant to 41 [1:25:15] trust fund under the management of said board pursuant to 41 Section 4547 in charter section [1:25:18] of said board pursuant to 41 Section 4547 in charter section [1:25:18] of said board pursuant to 41 Section 4547 in charter section 3-11, whose governing [1:25:20] Section 4547 in charter section 3-11, whose governing [1:25:20] Section 4547 in charter section 3-11, whose governing instrument directs income to [1:25:22] 3-11, whose governing instrument directs income to [1:25:22] 3-11, whose governing instrument directs income to individual residents may be [1:25:23] instrument directs income to individual residents may be [1:25:23] instrument directs income to individual residents may be approved only at a joint [1:25:24] individual residents may be approved only at a joint [1:25:24] individual residents may be approved only at a joint meeting of the select board in [1:25:25] approved only at a joint meeting of the select board in [1:25:25] approved only at a joint meeting of the select board in the remaining member of said [1:25:27] meeting of the select board in the remaining member of said [1:25:27] meeting of the select board in the remaining member of said board. Upon the written [1:25:27] the remaining member of said board. Upon the written [1:25:27] the remaining member of said board. Upon the written recommendations. Of the [1:25:29] board. Upon the written recommendations. Of the [1:25:29] board. Upon the written recommendations. Of the remaining member by the [1:25:31] recommendations. Of the remaining member by the [1:25:31] recommendations. Of the remaining member by the affirmative vote of a majority [1:25:32] remaining member by the affirmative vote of a majority [1:25:32] remaining member by the affirmative vote of a majority of all members of the select [1:25:33] affirmative vote of a majority of all members of the select [1:25:33] affirmative vote of a majority of all members of the select board in the affirmative vote [1:25:34] of all members of the select board in the affirmative vote [1:25:34] of all members of the select board in the affirmative vote of the remaining member and [1:25:36] board in the affirmative vote of the remaining member and [1:25:36] board in the affirmative vote of the remaining member and only in accordance with the [1:25:38] of the remaining member and only in accordance with the [1:25:38] of the remaining member and only in accordance with the governing trust instrument in [1:25:39] only in accordance with the governing trust instrument in [1:25:39] only in accordance with the governing trust instrument in the written policies of said [1:25:40] governing trust instrument in the written policies of said [1:25:41] governing trust instrument in the written policies of said board. 3, provides that no [1:25:43] the written policies of said board. 3, provides that no [1:25:43] the written policies of said board. 3, provides that no distribution may be approved [1:25:43] board. 3, provides that no distribution may be approved [1:25:43] board. 3, provides that no distribution may be approved under said section when no [1:25:45] distribution may be approved under said section when no [1:25:45] distribution may be approved under said section when no member of said board is in [1:25:47] under said section when no member of said board is in [1:25:47] under said section when no member of said board is in office, and 4 provides that all [1:25:49] member of said board is in office, and 4 provides that all [1:25:49] member of said board is in office, and 4 provides that all such authority ceases when two [1:25:50] office, and 4 provides that all such authority ceases when two [1:25:50] office, and 4 provides that all such authority ceases when two members of said board are in [1:25:52] such authority ceases when two members of said board are in [1:25:52] such authority ceases when two members of said board are in office. The full text of said [1:25:54] members of said board are in office. The full text of said [1:25:54] members of said board are in office. The full text of said section being on file with the [1:25:56] office. The full text of said section being on file with the [1:25:56] office. The full text of said section being on file with the town clerk or take any other [1:25:58] section being on file with the town clerk or take any other [1:25:58] section being on file with the town clerk or take any other action relative there. To. And [1:26:00] town clerk or take any other action relative there. To. And [1:26:00] town clerk or take any other action relative there. To. And that's the discussion we had at [1:26:01] action relative there. To. And that's the discussion we had at [1:26:01] action relative there. To. And that's the discussion we had at the last meeting, the minute [1:26:03] that's the discussion we had at the last meeting, the minute [1:26:03] that's the discussion we had at the last meeting, the minute you can review that, uh, I do [1:26:05] the last meeting, the minute you can review that, uh, I do [1:26:05] the last meeting, the minute you can review that, uh, I do have an entire dissertation on [1:26:07] you can review that, uh, I do have an entire dissertation on [1:26:07] you can review that, uh, I do have an entire dissertation on that, which doesn't really need [1:26:08] have an entire dissertation on that, which doesn't really need [1:26:08] have an entire dissertation on that, which doesn't really need a presentation. We gave that [1:26:10] that, which doesn't really need a presentation. We gave that [1:26:10] that, which doesn't really need a presentation. We gave that presentation. The lawyer [1:26:12] a presentation. We gave that presentation. The lawyer [1:26:12] a presentation. We gave that presentation. The lawyer corrected a I went through the, [1:26:14] presentation. The lawyer corrected a I went through the, [1:26:14] presentation. The lawyer corrected a I went through the, uh, through those, through that [1:26:15] corrected a I went through the, uh, through those, through that [1:26:15] corrected a I went through the, uh, through those, through that meeting and I went, oh, and so [1:26:18] uh, through those, through that meeting and I went, oh, and so [1:26:18] uh, through those, through that meeting and I went, oh, and so I rewrote and I found ways to [1:26:19] meeting and I went, oh, and so I rewrote and I found ways to [1:26:19] meeting and I went, oh, and so I rewrote and I found ways to be able to do it, which can [1:26:23] I rewrote and I found ways to be able to do it, which can [1:26:23] I rewrote and I found ways to be able to do it, which can happen in a presentation when I [1:26:24] be able to do it, which can happen in a presentation when I [1:26:24] be able to do it, which can happen in a presentation when I give it to the select board and [1:26:25] happen in a presentation when I give it to the select board and [1:26:25] happen in a presentation when I give it to the select board and it basically said, there's no [1:26:27] give it to the select board and it basically said, there's no [1:26:27] give it to the select board and it basically said, there's no monetary issue involved. [1:26:28] it basically said, there's no monetary issue involved. [1:26:28] it basically said, there's no monetary issue involved. Finance committee. He has no, [1:26:30] monetary issue involved. Finance committee. He has no, [1:26:30] monetary issue involved. Finance committee. He has no, it's just basically adding a [1:26:32] Finance committee. He has no, it's just basically adding a [1:26:32] Finance committee. He has no, it's just basically adding a bylaw that says when there's [1:26:32] it's just basically adding a bylaw that says when there's [1:26:32] it's just basically adding a bylaw that says when there's one member, they're the ones [1:26:34] bylaw that says when there's one member, they're the ones [1:26:34] bylaw that says when there's one member, they're the ones that will say how this board [1:26:35] one member, they're the ones that will say how this board [1:26:35] one member, they're the ones that will say how this board works. My cyclo won't do that. [1:26:37] that will say how this board works. My cyclo won't do that. [1:26:37] that will say how this board works. My cyclo won't do that. They'll just be a voting block. [1:26:39] works. My cyclo won't do that. They'll just be a voting block. [1:26:39] works. My cyclo won't do that. They'll just be a voting block. The instructions will come from [1:26:41] They'll just be a voting block. The instructions will come from [1:26:41] They'll just be a voting block. The instructions will come from the lone member. The vote will [1:26:43] The instructions will come from the lone member. The vote will [1:26:43] The instructions will come from the lone member. The vote will happen and it can only be done [1:26:44] the lone member. The vote will happen and it can only be done [1:26:44] the lone member. The vote will happen and it can only be done at the municipal funds won't be [1:26:45] happen and it can only be done at the municipal funds won't be [1:26:45] happen and it can only be done at the municipal funds won't be able to be used, just the [1:26:46] at the municipal funds won't be able to be used, just the [1:26:46] at the municipal funds won't be able to be used, just the beneficiary funds for the [1:26:48] able to be used, just the beneficiary funds for the [1:26:48] able to be used, just the beneficiary funds for the individual. So in the event [1:26:48] beneficiary funds for the individual. So in the event [1:26:48] beneficiary funds for the individual. So in the event that there's only one member, [1:26:52] individual. So in the event that there's only one member, [1:26:52] individual. So in the event that there's only one member, The funds still go out the door [1:26:53] that there's only one member, The funds still go out the door [1:26:53] that there's only one member, The funds still go out the door annually to benefit people [1:26:55] The funds still go out the door annually to benefit people [1:26:55] The funds still go out the door annually to benefit people seems pretty uncontroversial to [1:26:57] annually to benefit people seems pretty uncontroversial to [1:26:57] annually to benefit people seems pretty uncontroversial to me. Correct. Correct. And then [1:26:59] seems pretty uncontroversial to me. Correct. Correct. And then [1:26:59] seems pretty uncontroversial to me. Correct. Correct. And then that one benefit, that one [1:27:02] me. Correct. Correct. And then that one benefit, that one [1:27:02] me. Correct. Correct. And then that one benefit, that one member basically make sure that [1:27:03] that one benefit, that one member basically make sure that [1:27:03] that one benefit, that one member basically make sure that they get the DD 214 that they [1:27:05] member basically make sure that they get the DD 214 that they [1:27:05] member basically make sure that they get the DD 214 that they fit into all the parameters [1:27:06] they get the DD 214 that they fit into all the parameters [1:27:06] they get the DD 214 that they fit into all the parameters that everything's, they have to [1:27:07] fit into all the parameters that everything's, they have to [1:27:07] fit into all the parameters that everything's, they have to do all the work, right? Right, [1:27:08] that everything's, they have to do all the work, right? Right, [1:27:08] that everything's, they have to do all the work, right? Right, to make sure that the [1:27:10] do all the work, right? Right, to make sure that the [1:27:10] do all the work, right? Right, to make sure that the beneficiary, you know, is [1:27:12] to make sure that the beneficiary, you know, is [1:27:12] to make sure that the beneficiary, you know, is entitled to it, and then they [1:27:13] beneficiary, you know, is entitled to it, and then they [1:27:13] beneficiary, you know, is entitled to it, and then they go, OK, here we are. Let's go [1:27:14] entitled to it, and then they go, OK, here we are. Let's go [1:27:14] entitled to it, and then they go, OK, here we are. Let's go to executive session. You go [1:27:15] go, OK, here we are. Let's go to executive session. You go [1:27:15] go, OK, here we are. Let's go to executive session. You go into executive session with the [1:27:17] to executive session. You go into executive session with the [1:27:17] to executive session. You go into executive session with the select board. You give the [1:27:19] into executive session with the select board. You give the [1:27:19] into executive session with the select board. You give the presentation on behalf of the [1:27:21] select board. You give the presentation on behalf of the [1:27:21] select board. You give the presentation on behalf of the individual requesting it. They [1:27:22] presentation on behalf of the individual requesting it. They [1:27:22] presentation on behalf of the individual requesting it. They provide information. OK. And [1:27:24] individual requesting it. They provide information. OK. And [1:27:24] individual requesting it. They provide information. OK. And then the board votes based on [1:27:26] provide information. OK. And then the board votes based on [1:27:26] provide information. OK. And then the board votes based on the rules. And here's the rules [1:27:28] then the board votes based on the rules. And here's the rules [1:27:28] then the board votes based on the rules. And here's the rules and we have a checklist, so [1:27:29] the rules. And here's the rules and we have a checklist, so [1:27:29] the rules. And here's the rules and we have a checklist, so they can all just look at a [1:27:30] and we have a checklist, so they can all just look at a [1:27:30] and we have a checklist, so they can all just look at a checklist, go, did they do this [1:27:31] they can all just look at a checklist, go, did they do this [1:27:31] they can all just look at a checklist, go, did they do this ? Yes, did they do this? Yes, [1:27:33] checklist, go, did they do this ? Yes, did they do this? Yes, [1:27:33] checklist, go, did they do this ? Yes, did they do this? Yes, we created one, remember? This, [1:27:35] ? Yes, did they do this? Yes, we created one, remember? This, [1:27:35] ? Yes, did they do this? Yes, we created one, remember? This, this, we get a blocklist. Did [1:27:37] we created one, remember? This, this, we get a blocklist. Did [1:27:37] we created one, remember? This, this, we get a blocklist. Did you check all the boxes? Yes, [1:27:39] this, we get a blocklist. Did you check all the boxes? Yes, [1:27:39] this, we get a blocklist. Did you check all the boxes? Yes, see, there's your vote. Do you [1:27:42] you check all the boxes? Yes, see, there's your vote. Do you [1:27:42] you check all the boxes? Yes, see, there's your vote. Do you see my point? Qualifies. Thank [1:27:44] see, there's your vote. Do you see my point? Qualifies. Thank [1:27:44] see, there's your vote. Do you see my point? Qualifies. Thank you. So that we can benefit the [1:27:46] see my point? Qualifies. Thank you. So that we can benefit the [1:27:46] see my point? Qualifies. Thank you. So that we can benefit the people. What do you think about [1:27:48] you. So that we can benefit the people. What do you think about [1:27:48] you. So that we can benefit the people. What do you think about that? I think we should, uh, [1:27:51] people. What do you think about that? I think we should, uh, [1:27:51] people. What do you think about that? I think we should, uh, That's, do you want me to make [1:27:53] that? I think we should, uh, That's, do you want me to make [1:27:53] that? I think we should, uh, That's, do you want me to make a motion to approve. Yes, [1:27:55] That's, do you want me to make a motion to approve. Yes, [1:27:55] That's, do you want me to make a motion to approve. Yes, please make a motion to approve [1:27:57] a motion to approve. Yes, please make a motion to approve [1:27:57] a motion to approve. Yes, please make a motion to approve as written with changes to [1:28:00] please make a motion to approve as written with changes to [1:28:00] please make a motion to approve as written with changes to approve the Januia Trust Fund [1:28:02] as written with changes to approve the Januia Trust Fund [1:28:02] as written with changes to approve the Januia Trust Fund commission document warrant as [1:28:04] approve the Januia Trust Fund commission document warrant as [1:28:04] approve the Januia Trust Fund commission document warrant as rewritten. approved the [1:28:06] commission document warrant as rewritten. approved the [1:28:06] commission document warrant as rewritten. approved the continuity of trust fund [1:28:07] rewritten. approved the continuity of trust fund [1:28:07] rewritten. approved the continuity of trust fund administration during vacancy [1:28:08] continuity of trust fund administration during vacancy [1:28:09] continuity of trust fund administration during vacancy on the Border commissioners' [1:28:09] administration during vacancy on the Border commissioners' [1:28:09] administration during vacancy on the Border commissioners' trust funds, OK, the amendment [1:28:11] on the Border commissioners' trust funds, OK, the amendment [1:28:12] on the Border commissioners' trust funds, OK, the amendment to the warrant, uh, for the [1:28:14] trust funds, OK, the amendment to the warrant, uh, for the [1:28:14] trust funds, OK, the amendment to the warrant, uh, for the presentation for the select [1:28:15] to the warrant, uh, for the presentation for the select [1:28:15] to the warrant, uh, for the presentation for the select board. Yes. Uh, I will second [1:28:18] presentation for the select board. Yes. Uh, I will second [1:28:18] presentation for the select board. Yes. Uh, I will second that. All in favor aye, could [1:28:22] board. Yes. Uh, I will second that. All in favor aye, could [1:28:22] board. Yes. Uh, I will second that. All in favor aye, could we do a roll call just in case? [1:28:24] that. All in favor aye, could we do a roll call just in case? [1:28:24] that. All in favor aye, could we do a roll call just in case? I don't want to make a mistake [1:28:25] we do a roll call just in case? I don't want to make a mistake [1:28:25] we do a roll call just in case? I don't want to make a mistake here. Uh, John Bowen, I Richard [1:28:29] I don't want to make a mistake here. Uh, John Bowen, I Richard [1:28:29] I don't want to make a mistake here. Uh, John Bowen, I Richard Howard, I, yeah, unanimously [1:28:31] here. Uh, John Bowen, I Richard Howard, I, yeah, unanimously [1:28:31] here. Uh, John Bowen, I Richard Howard, I, yeah, unanimously voted. OK, so this article will [1:28:33] Howard, I, yeah, unanimously voted. OK, so this article will [1:28:33] Howard, I, yeah, unanimously voted. OK, so this article will get sent up to replace the one [1:28:34] voted. OK, so this article will get sent up to replace the one [1:28:34] voted. OK, so this article will get sent up to replace the one that we just recently sent them [1:28:36] get sent up to replace the one that we just recently sent them [1:28:36] get sent up to replace the one that we just recently sent them uh, which we voted last meeting [1:28:38] that we just recently sent them uh, which we voted last meeting [1:28:38] that we just recently sent them uh, which we voted last meeting as is written, um, so this is [1:28:41] uh, which we voted last meeting as is written, um, so this is [1:28:41] uh, which we voted last meeting as is written, um, so this is the rewritten one, and the only [1:28:42] as is written, um, so this is the rewritten one, and the only [1:28:42] as is written, um, so this is the rewritten one, and the only reason why we rewrote it, I [1:28:43] the rewritten one, and the only reason why we rewrote it, I [1:28:43] the rewritten one, and the only reason why we rewrote it, I went through exactly what the [1:28:45] reason why we rewrote it, I went through exactly what the [1:28:45] reason why we rewrote it, I went through exactly what the lawyers said at the last [1:28:45] went through exactly what the lawyers said at the last [1:28:45] went through exactly what the lawyers said at the last meeting and everything that [1:28:47] lawyers said at the last meeting and everything that [1:28:47] lawyers said at the last meeting and everything that everybody else said, all the [1:28:47] meeting and everything that everybody else said, all the [1:28:47] meeting and everything that everybody else said, all the comments from the board and [1:28:49] everybody else said, all the comments from the board and [1:28:49] everybody else said, all the comments from the board and otherwise from Mr. Leighton, Mr [1:28:51] comments from the board and otherwise from Mr. Leighton, Mr [1:28:51] comments from the board and otherwise from Mr. Leighton, Mr McLeod. Do you know what I mean [1:28:54] otherwise from Mr. Leighton, Mr McLeod. Do you know what I mean [1:28:54] otherwise from Mr. Leighton, Mr McLeod. Do you know what I mean ? Uh, from Ms. Moore and, uh, [1:28:54] McLeod. Do you know what I mean ? Uh, from Ms. Moore and, uh, [1:28:55] McLeod. Do you know what I mean ? Uh, from Ms. Moore and, uh, Mr. Nozzolo. I, I, I went [1:28:58] ? Uh, from Ms. Moore and, uh, Mr. Nozzolo. I, I, I went [1:28:58] ? Uh, from Ms. Moore and, uh, Mr. Nozzolo. I, I, I went through all the, everything [1:28:59] Mr. Nozzolo. I, I, I went through all the, everything [1:28:59] Mr. Nozzolo. I, I, I went through all the, everything they said. So that we could get [1:29:01] through all the, everything they said. So that we could get [1:29:01] through all the, everything they said. So that we could get it done. So, OK. Um, Mr. Chair, [1:29:05] they said. So that we could get it done. So, OK. Um, Mr. Chair, [1:29:05] they said. So that we could get it done. So, OK. Um, Mr. Chair, can we ratify the minutes of [1:29:07] it done. So, OK. Um, Mr. Chair, can we ratify the minutes of [1:29:07] it done. So, OK. Um, Mr. Chair, can we ratify the minutes of 8:27 of August 27th. 2026, yes, [1:29:12] can we ratify the minutes of 8:27 of August 27th. 2026, yes, [1:29:12] can we ratify the minutes of 8:27 of August 27th. 2026, yes, Britain, because we read that. [1:29:14] 8:27 of August 27th. 2026, yes, Britain, because we read that. [1:29:14] 8:27 of August 27th. 2026, yes, Britain, because we read that. That was Ernie's so we don't [1:29:16] Britain, because we read that. That was Ernie's so we don't [1:29:16] Britain, because we read that. That was Ernie's so we don't get a big backlog, uh uh, yes, [1:29:19] That was Ernie's so we don't get a big backlog, uh uh, yes, [1:29:19] That was Ernie's so we don't get a big backlog, uh uh, yes, so I would like to ratify the [1:29:21] get a big backlog, uh uh, yes, so I would like to ratify the [1:29:21] get a big backlog, uh uh, yes, so I would like to ratify the minutes of August 27th, uh, Uh, [1:29:27] so I would like to ratify the minutes of August 27th, uh, Uh, [1:29:27] so I would like to ratify the minutes of August 27th, uh, Uh, I vote aye, you vote 2nd, I, I, [1:29:30] minutes of August 27th, uh, Uh, I vote aye, you vote 2nd, I, I, [1:29:30] minutes of August 27th, uh, Uh, I vote aye, you vote 2nd, I, I, we're all unanimous on the [1:29:30] I vote aye, you vote 2nd, I, I, we're all unanimous on the [1:29:30] I vote aye, you vote 2nd, I, I, we're all unanimous on the votes on the minutes. Everybody [1:29:32] we're all unanimous on the votes on the minutes. Everybody [1:29:32] we're all unanimous on the votes on the minutes. Everybody has to vote the minutes, but we [1:29:33] votes on the minutes. Everybody has to vote the minutes, but we [1:29:33] votes on the minutes. Everybody has to vote the minutes, but we have to read them. So, um, [1:29:35] has to vote the minutes, but we have to read them. So, um, [1:29:35] has to vote the minutes, but we have to read them. So, um, because there can be errors [1:29:37] have to read them. So, um, because there can be errors [1:29:37] have to read them. So, um, because there can be errors that are in them. In minutes or [1:29:39] because there can be errors that are in them. In minutes or [1:29:39] because there can be errors that are in them. In minutes or just an overview. They're not [1:29:41] that are in them. In minutes or just an overview. They're not [1:29:41] that are in them. In minutes or just an overview. They're not like a detail. People sometimes [1:29:42] just an overview. They're not like a detail. People sometimes [1:29:42] just an overview. They're not like a detail. People sometimes not a transcript, yeah, exactly [1:29:44] like a detail. People sometimes not a transcript, yeah, exactly [1:29:44] like a detail. People sometimes not a transcript, yeah, exactly exactly. It's just to give you [1:29:46] not a transcript, yeah, exactly exactly. It's just to give you [1:29:46] not a transcript, yeah, exactly exactly. It's just to give you an understanding of what was [1:29:47] exactly. It's just to give you an understanding of what was [1:29:47] exactly. It's just to give you an understanding of what was discussed correct in the [1:29:50] an understanding of what was discussed correct in the [1:29:50] an understanding of what was discussed correct in the important facts and the [1:29:52] discussed correct in the important facts and the [1:29:52] discussed correct in the important facts and the construes that extremely [1:29:53] important facts and the construes that extremely [1:29:53] important facts and the construes that extremely liberally. You know, by law, [1:29:55] construes that extremely liberally. You know, by law, [1:29:55] construes that extremely liberally. You know, by law, what minutes are. The open [1:29:57] liberally. You know, by law, what minutes are. The open [1:29:57] liberally. You know, by law, what minutes are. The open meeting law is very clear [1:29:58] what minutes are. The open meeting law is very clear [1:29:59] what minutes are. The open meeting law is very clear minutes are not they didn't say [1:30:01] meeting law is very clear minutes are not they didn't say [1:30:01] meeting law is very clear minutes are not they didn't say I said this. They didn't say, [1:30:02] minutes are not they didn't say I said this. They didn't say, [1:30:02] minutes are not they didn't say I said this. They didn't say, no, it doesn't work that way. [1:30:03] I said this. They didn't say, no, it doesn't work that way. [1:30:03] I said this. They didn't say, no, it doesn't work that way. Ready? Did you come and speak? [1:30:05] no, it doesn't work that way. Ready? Did you come and speak? [1:30:06] no, it doesn't work that way. Ready? Did you come and speak? Yes. OK. You know, Mr. Bone, Mr [1:30:08] Ready? Did you come and speak? Yes. OK. You know, Mr. Bone, Mr [1:30:08] Ready? Did you come and speak? Yes. OK. You know, Mr. Bone, Mr Bowen came and spoke on this [1:30:10] Yes. OK. You know, Mr. Bone, Mr Bowen came and spoke on this [1:30:10] Yes. OK. You know, Mr. Bone, Mr Bowen came and spoke on this subject and his concern was [1:30:11] Bowen came and spoke on this subject and his concern was [1:30:11] Bowen came and spoke on this subject and his concern was blah blah blah blah blah, even [1:30:13] subject and his concern was blah blah blah blah blah, even [1:30:13] subject and his concern was blah blah blah blah blah, even though he spoke for 10 minutes. [1:30:18] blah blah blah blah blah, even though he spoke for 10 minutes. [1:30:18] blah blah blah blah blah, even though he spoke for 10 minutes. I don't speak that long. Maybe [1:30:23] though he spoke for 10 minutes. I don't speak that long. Maybe [1:30:23] though he spoke for 10 minutes. I don't speak that long. Maybe 99, yeah, getting better. Yeah. [1:30:28] I don't speak that long. Maybe 99, yeah, getting better. Yeah. [1:30:29] I don't speak that long. Maybe 99, yeah, getting better. Yeah. All right. Let me just, uh, [1:30:32] 99, yeah, getting better. Yeah. All right. Let me just, uh, [1:30:33] 99, yeah, getting better. Yeah. All right. Let me just, uh, we're a little over here [1:30:33] All right. Let me just, uh, we're a little over here [1:30:33] All right. Let me just, uh, we're a little over here tonight, so, uh, folks, we got [1:30:35] we're a little over here tonight, so, uh, folks, we got [1:30:35] we're a little over here tonight, so, uh, folks, we got a little late start. So, um, [1:30:37] tonight, so, uh, folks, we got a little late start. So, um, [1:30:37] tonight, so, uh, folks, we got a little late start. So, um, but we do, I think the finance [1:30:38] a little late start. So, um, but we do, I think the finance [1:30:38] a little late start. So, um, but we do, I think the finance committee is coming in so. We [1:30:40] but we do, I think the finance committee is coming in so. We [1:30:40] but we do, I think the finance committee is coming in so. We don't want to be here and [1:30:41] committee is coming in so. We don't want to be here and [1:30:42] committee is coming in so. We don't want to be here and overlap them and give them time [1:30:42] don't want to be here and overlap them and give them time [1:30:42] don't want to be here and overlap them and give them time to set up and stuff. So I just [1:30:44] overlap them and give them time to set up and stuff. So I just [1:30:44] overlap them and give them time to set up and stuff. So I just want to um, I just want to get [1:30:47] to set up and stuff. So I just want to um, I just want to get [1:30:47] to set up and stuff. So I just want to um, I just want to get to one. I just want to go [1:30:49] want to um, I just want to get to one. I just want to go [1:30:49] want to um, I just want to get to one. I just want to go through the agenda real quick. [1:30:51] to one. I just want to go through the agenda real quick. [1:30:51] to one. I just want to go through the agenda real quick. Um, All right, so, uh, we're [1:31:18] through the agenda real quick. Um, All right, so, uh, we're [1:31:18] through the agenda real quick. Um, All right, so, uh, we're gonna discuss, uh, writing the [1:31:21] Um, All right, so, uh, we're gonna discuss, uh, writing the [1:31:21] Um, All right, so, uh, we're gonna discuss, uh, writing the declarations and stuff like [1:31:22] gonna discuss, uh, writing the declarations and stuff like [1:31:22] gonna discuss, uh, writing the declarations and stuff like that to be able to suffice that [1:31:24] declarations and stuff like that to be able to suffice that [1:31:24] declarations and stuff like that to be able to suffice that I told you I had the meeting [1:31:25] that to be able to suffice that I told you I had the meeting [1:31:25] that to be able to suffice that I told you I had the meeting with Tom manager. When we get [1:31:27] I told you I had the meeting with Tom manager. When we get [1:31:27] I told you I had the meeting with Tom manager. When we get the day, uh, the site break [1:31:29] with Tom manager. When we get the day, uh, the site break [1:31:29] with Tom manager. When we get the day, uh, the site break filing for the day fund. We'll [1:31:29] the day, uh, the site break filing for the day fund. We'll [1:31:29] the day, uh, the site break filing for the day fund. We'll go through the rest of them. Uh [1:31:31] filing for the day fund. We'll go through the rest of them. Uh [1:31:31] filing for the day fund. We'll go through the rest of them. Uh the bylaw warrant article, we [1:31:33] go through the rest of them. Uh the bylaw warrant article, we [1:31:33] go through the rest of them. Uh the bylaw warrant article, we just did that finalizing the [1:31:34] the bylaw warrant article, we just did that finalizing the [1:31:34] the bylaw warrant article, we just did that finalizing the warrant. The warrant closes on [1:31:36] just did that finalizing the warrant. The warrant closes on [1:31:36] just did that finalizing the warrant. The warrant closes on 9/17, so we had a vote tonight [1:31:38] warrant. The warrant closes on 9/17, so we had a vote tonight [1:31:38] warrant. The warrant closes on 9/17, so we had a vote tonight on that. Uh, The town may [1:31:40] 9/17, so we had a vote tonight on that. Uh, The town may [1:31:40] 9/17, so we had a vote tonight on that. Uh, The town may select board chair and bylaw [1:31:42] on that. Uh, The town may select board chair and bylaw [1:31:43] on that. Uh, The town may select board chair and bylaw review committee. Uh, it was [1:31:44] select board chair and bylaw review committee. Uh, it was [1:31:45] select board chair and bylaw review committee. Uh, it was emailed September 4th. All this [1:31:47] review committee. Uh, it was emailed September 4th. All this [1:31:47] review committee. Uh, it was emailed September 4th. All this information was emailed to [1:31:47] emailed September 4th. All this information was emailed to [1:31:47] emailed September 4th. All this information was emailed to everyone, uh, formal [1:31:49] information was emailed to everyone, uh, formal [1:31:49] information was emailed to everyone, uh, formal submissions were emailed [1:31:50] everyone, uh, formal submissions were emailed [1:31:50] everyone, uh, formal submissions were emailed September 4th Town council, [1:31:51] submissions were emailed September 4th Town council, [1:31:51] submissions were emailed September 4th Town council, town manager, select board [1:31:52] September 4th Town council, town manager, select board [1:31:52] September 4th Town council, town manager, select board chair, and bylaw review [1:31:54] town manager, select board chair, and bylaw review [1:31:54] town manager, select board chair, and bylaw review committee requested council's [1:31:54] chair, and bylaw review committee requested council's [1:31:54] chair, and bylaw review committee requested council's recommended changes. I was [1:31:56] committee requested council's recommended changes. I was [1:31:56] committee requested council's recommended changes. I was awaiting a reply, didn't get [1:31:58] recommended changes. I was awaiting a reply, didn't get [1:31:58] recommended changes. I was awaiting a reply, didn't get any, uh, any amendments must be [1:31:59] awaiting a reply, didn't get any, uh, any amendments must be [1:31:59] awaiting a reply, didn't get any, uh, any amendments must be voted tonight, so we voted this [1:32:02] any, uh, any amendments must be voted tonight, so we voted this [1:32:03] any, uh, any amendments must be voted tonight, so we voted this tonight and I'll still wait for [1:32:03] voted tonight, so we voted this tonight and I'll still wait for [1:32:03] voted tonight, so we voted this tonight and I'll still wait for a reply from them on that, I'll [1:32:05] tonight and I'll still wait for a reply from them on that, I'll [1:32:05] tonight and I'll still wait for a reply from them on that, I'll send them this update, uh, with [1:32:08] a reply from them on that, I'll send them this update, uh, with [1:32:08] a reply from them on that, I'll send them this update, uh, with some identifiers. Um, old [1:32:10] send them this update, uh, with some identifiers. Um, old [1:32:10] send them this update, uh, with some identifiers. Um, old business. Breach notice we [1:32:13] some identifiers. Um, old business. Breach notice we [1:32:13] some identifiers. Um, old business. Breach notice we already mentioned that. Uh, the [1:32:16] business. Breach notice we already mentioned that. Uh, the [1:32:16] business. Breach notice we already mentioned that. Uh, the school department already [1:32:17] already mentioned that. Uh, the school department already [1:32:17] already mentioned that. Uh, the school department already mentioned that. Uh, updates, uh [1:32:21] school department already mentioned that. Uh, updates, uh [1:32:21] school department already mentioned that. Uh, updates, uh to website postings. Still [1:32:21] mentioned that. Uh, updates, uh to website postings. Still [1:32:22] mentioned that. Uh, updates, uh to website postings. Still working on that. There's some [1:32:23] to website postings. Still working on that. There's some [1:32:23] to website postings. Still working on that. There's some tweaking that has to be done. [1:32:24] working on that. There's some tweaking that has to be done. [1:32:24] working on that. There's some tweaking that has to be done. Uh, I'm organizing the form [1:32:25] tweaking that has to be done. Uh, I'm organizing the form [1:32:26] tweaking that has to be done. Uh, I'm organizing the form that we ratified. There there's [1:32:27] Uh, I'm organizing the form that we ratified. There there's [1:32:28] Uh, I'm organizing the form that we ratified. There there's just a couple of things in [1:32:28] that we ratified. There there's just a couple of things in [1:32:28] that we ratified. There there's just a couple of things in there. There's, I'm looking at [1:32:30] just a couple of things in there. There's, I'm looking at [1:32:30] just a couple of things in there. There's, I'm looking at the way it says stuff, some of [1:32:32] there. There's, I'm looking at the way it says stuff, some of [1:32:32] there. There's, I'm looking at the way it says stuff, some of it, I just don't want to get in [1:32:32] the way it says stuff, some of it, I just don't want to get in [1:32:32] the way it says stuff, some of it, I just don't want to get in trouble. You know, uh, the [1:32:35] it, I just don't want to get in trouble. You know, uh, the [1:32:35] it, I just don't want to get in trouble. You know, uh, the lawyer said it was all right, [1:32:37] trouble. You know, uh, the lawyer said it was all right, [1:32:37] trouble. You know, uh, the lawyer said it was all right, but I started to question some [1:32:38] lawyer said it was all right, but I started to question some [1:32:38] lawyer said it was all right, but I started to question some things, so I'm kind of [1:32:39] but I started to question some things, so I'm kind of [1:32:39] but I started to question some things, so I'm kind of rewriting that. We'll resubmit [1:32:41] things, so I'm kind of rewriting that. We'll resubmit [1:32:41] things, so I'm kind of rewriting that. We'll resubmit it to the lawyer. Do you know [1:32:42] rewriting that. We'll resubmit it to the lawyer. Do you know [1:32:42] rewriting that. We'll resubmit it to the lawyer. Do you know what I mean? for review. You [1:32:45] it to the lawyer. Do you know what I mean? for review. You [1:32:45] it to the lawyer. Do you know what I mean? for review. You know, um, We still have a [1:32:50] what I mean? for review. You know, um, We still have a [1:32:50] what I mean? for review. You know, um, We still have a vacancy, just so everybody [1:32:50] know, um, We still have a vacancy, just so everybody [1:32:50] know, um, We still have a vacancy, just so everybody knows we could use one more [1:32:51] vacancy, just so everybody knows we could use one more [1:32:51] vacancy, just so everybody knows we could use one more person, please. Um, our goals [1:32:55] knows we could use one more person, please. Um, our goals [1:32:55] knows we could use one more person, please. Um, our goals are no different. We kind of [1:32:57] person, please. Um, our goals are no different. We kind of [1:32:57] person, please. Um, our goals are no different. We kind of speak about them on a regular [1:32:57] are no different. We kind of speak about them on a regular [1:32:58] are no different. We kind of speak about them on a regular basis. Our Our main goal is to [1:32:59] speak about them on a regular basis. Our Our main goal is to [1:32:59] speak about them on a regular basis. Our Our main goal is to make sure that the money gets [1:33:01] basis. Our Our main goal is to make sure that the money gets [1:33:01] basis. Our Our main goal is to make sure that the money gets in the hands of the people, [1:33:01] make sure that the money gets in the hands of the people, [1:33:02] make sure that the money gets in the hands of the people, even when we're here, when [1:33:03] in the hands of the people, even when we're here, when [1:33:03] in the hands of the people, even when we're here, when we're not here, do you know [1:33:04] even when we're here, when we're not here, do you know [1:33:04] even when we're here, when we're not here, do you know what I'm saying? For their [1:33:06] we're not here, do you know what I'm saying? For their [1:33:06] we're not here, do you know what I'm saying? For their benefit. You know, and that the [1:33:07] what I'm saying? For their benefit. You know, and that the [1:33:07] what I'm saying? For their benefit. You know, and that the names of these donors get sent [1:33:09] benefit. You know, and that the names of these donors get sent [1:33:09] benefit. You know, and that the names of these donors get sent over this microphone on a [1:33:11] names of these donors get sent over this microphone on a [1:33:11] names of these donors get sent over this microphone on a monthly basis. We'd like to [1:33:13] over this microphone on a monthly basis. We'd like to [1:33:13] over this microphone on a monthly basis. We'd like to thank Mr. Howard for sidewalk [1:33:16] monthly basis. We'd like to thank Mr. Howard for sidewalk [1:33:16] monthly basis. We'd like to thank Mr. Howard for sidewalk fund, and we would like to [1:33:17] thank Mr. Howard for sidewalk fund, and we would like to [1:33:17] thank Mr. Howard for sidewalk fund, and we would like to thank the American Legion for [1:33:19] fund, and we would like to thank the American Legion for [1:33:19] fund, and we would like to thank the American Legion for their support, uh, of the poor [1:33:20] thank the American Legion for their support, uh, of the poor [1:33:20] thank the American Legion for their support, uh, of the poor families in this town, you know [1:33:22] their support, uh, of the poor families in this town, you know [1:33:22] their support, uh, of the poor families in this town, you know these are the things we want to [1:33:23] families in this town, you know these are the things we want to [1:33:23] families in this town, you know these are the things we want to be able to say, oh, we'd like [1:33:24] these are the things we want to be able to say, oh, we'd like [1:33:24] these are the things we want to be able to say, oh, we'd like to like to, uh, thank Nathaniel [1:33:26] be able to say, oh, we'd like to like to, uh, thank Nathaniel [1:33:27] be able to say, oh, we'd like to like to, uh, thank Nathaniel Day for his generous gift, you [1:33:28] to like to, uh, thank Nathaniel Day for his generous gift, you [1:33:29] to like to, uh, thank Nathaniel Day for his generous gift, you know, to help this family, uh, [1:33:31] Day for his generous gift, you know, to help this family, uh, [1:33:31] Day for his generous gift, you know, to help this family, uh, a person in this time of need, [1:33:33] know, to help this family, uh, a person in this time of need, [1:33:33] know, to help this family, uh, a person in this time of need, you know, want to be able to [1:33:33] a person in this time of need, you know, want to be able to [1:33:33] a person in this time of need, you know, want to be able to say those things. Uh, again, [1:33:39] you know, want to be able to say those things. Uh, again, [1:33:39] you know, want to be able to say those things. Uh, again, we're not doing too much with [1:33:40] say those things. Uh, again, we're not doing too much with [1:33:40] say those things. Uh, again, we're not doing too much with the real estate investigations [1:33:42] we're not doing too much with the real estate investigations [1:33:42] we're not doing too much with the real estate investigations because we're still closing up [1:33:43] the real estate investigations because we're still closing up [1:33:43] the real estate investigations because we're still closing up some other stuff. Um, it's [1:33:44] because we're still closing up some other stuff. Um, it's [1:33:44] because we're still closing up some other stuff. Um, it's still, uh, on the agenda. I'm [1:33:46] some other stuff. Um, it's still, uh, on the agenda. I'm [1:33:46] some other stuff. Um, it's still, uh, on the agenda. I'm still doing some work and still [1:33:47] still, uh, on the agenda. I'm still doing some work and still [1:33:47] still, uh, on the agenda. I'm still doing some work and still doing some research, uh, with [1:33:49] still doing some work and still doing some research, uh, with [1:33:49] still doing some work and still doing some research, uh, with the probate court, uh, on a [1:33:51] doing some research, uh, with the probate court, uh, on a [1:33:51] doing some research, uh, with the probate court, uh, on a number of other things. So, uh, [1:33:54] the probate court, uh, on a number of other things. So, uh, [1:33:54] the probate court, uh, on a number of other things. So, uh, do I have any beneficiary [1:33:55] number of other things. So, uh, do I have any beneficiary [1:33:55] number of other things. So, uh, do I have any beneficiary comments? Nope, there's no [1:33:56] do I have any beneficiary comments? Nope, there's no [1:33:56] do I have any beneficiary comments? Nope, there's no beneficiaries here. Our [1:33:58] comments? Nope, there's no beneficiaries here. Our [1:33:58] comments? Nope, there's no beneficiaries here. Our upcoming meeting September 24th [1:34:02] beneficiaries here. Our upcoming meeting September 24th [1:34:02] beneficiaries here. Our upcoming meeting September 24th Richard, No conflict. Uh, not [1:34:05] upcoming meeting September 24th Richard, No conflict. Uh, not [1:34:05] upcoming meeting September 24th Richard, No conflict. Uh, not right now. OK, and I had my [1:34:07] Richard, No conflict. Uh, not right now. OK, and I had my [1:34:07] Richard, No conflict. Uh, not right now. OK, and I had my thing plugged in and it's not [1:34:09] right now. OK, and I had my thing plugged in and it's not [1:34:09] right now. OK, and I had my thing plugged in and it's not even working. OK, I was dead. [1:34:14] thing plugged in and it's not even working. OK, I was dead. [1:34:14] thing plugged in and it's not even working. OK, I was dead. Uh, All right. And then I'm [1:34:18] even working. OK, I was dead. Uh, All right. And then I'm [1:34:18] even working. OK, I was dead. Uh, All right. And then I'm still working on the rewrite of [1:34:20] Uh, All right. And then I'm still working on the rewrite of [1:34:20] Uh, All right. And then I'm still working on the rewrite of the management policy. That's [1:34:21] still working on the rewrite of the management policy. That's [1:34:21] still working on the rewrite of the management policy. That's another thing, um, so do I have [1:34:23] the management policy. That's another thing, um, so do I have [1:34:23] the management policy. That's another thing, um, so do I have any public comment? No public [1:34:27] another thing, um, so do I have any public comment? No public [1:34:27] another thing, um, so do I have any public comment? No public in the room, no public on Zoom. [1:34:29] any public comment? No public in the room, no public on Zoom. [1:34:29] any public comment? No public in the room, no public on Zoom. Do I have any public comment. I [1:34:33] in the room, no public on Zoom. Do I have any public comment. I [1:34:33] in the room, no public on Zoom. Do I have any public comment. I have no public confidence and [1:34:34] Do I have any public comment. I have no public confidence and [1:34:34] Do I have any public comment. I have no public confidence and with no public comment from the [1:34:36] have no public confidence and with no public comment from the [1:34:36] have no public confidence and with no public comment from the commission, I have none except [1:34:38] with no public comment from the commission, I have none except [1:34:38] with no public comment from the commission, I have none except to say, um, I hope around 8 or [1:34:41] commission, I have none except to say, um, I hope around 8 or [1:34:41] commission, I have none except to say, um, I hope around 8 or 9 o'clock tomorrow, um, take [1:34:44] to say, um, I hope around 8 or 9 o'clock tomorrow, um, take [1:34:45] to say, um, I hope around 8 or 9 o'clock tomorrow, um, take some time for a little bit of [1:34:47] 9 o'clock tomorrow, um, take some time for a little bit of [1:34:47] 9 o'clock tomorrow, um, take some time for a little bit of silence in memory of the, yeah, [1:34:50] some time for a little bit of silence in memory of the, yeah, [1:34:50] some time for a little bit of silence in memory of the, yeah, and Like they say, wear red on [1:34:54] silence in memory of the, yeah, and Like they say, wear red on [1:34:54] silence in memory of the, yeah, and Like they say, wear red on Wednesday. For everybody [1:34:56] and Like they say, wear red on Wednesday. For everybody [1:34:57] and Like they say, wear red on Wednesday. For everybody deployed. Do you know what I [1:34:57] Wednesday. For everybody deployed. Do you know what I [1:34:57] Wednesday. For everybody deployed. Do you know what I mean? Remember, everyone [1:35:01] deployed. Do you know what I mean? Remember, everyone [1:35:01] deployed. Do you know what I mean? Remember, everyone deployed. We're red. No [1:35:03] mean? Remember, everyone deployed. We're red. No [1:35:03] mean? Remember, everyone deployed. We're red. No Wednesday on Friday. Remember [1:35:06] deployed. We're red. No Wednesday on Friday. Remember [1:35:06] deployed. We're red. No Wednesday on Friday. Remember everyone deployed. That's what [1:35:07] Wednesday on Friday. Remember everyone deployed. That's what [1:35:07] Wednesday on Friday. Remember everyone deployed. That's what I mean. Why do you wear red? So [1:35:12] everyone deployed. That's what I mean. Why do you wear red? So [1:35:12] everyone deployed. That's what I mean. Why do you wear red? So that being said, I will [1:35:14] I mean. Why do you wear red? So that being said, I will [1:35:14] I mean. Why do you wear red? So that being said, I will entertain from you a motion to [1:35:16] that being said, I will entertain from you a motion to [1:35:16] that being said, I will entertain from you a motion to adjourn. I will second that [1:35:17] entertain from you a motion to adjourn. I will second that [1:35:17] entertain from you a motion to adjourn. I will second that motion. No, I want you to make [1:35:19] adjourn. I will second that motion. No, I want you to make [1:35:19] adjourn. I will second that motion. No, I want you to make the motion. Oh, I'll make a [1:35:21] motion. No, I want you to make the motion. Oh, I'll make a [1:35:21] motion. No, I want you to make the motion. Oh, I'll make a motion and we adjourn the [1:35:23] the motion. Oh, I'll make a motion and we adjourn the [1:35:23] the motion. Oh, I'll make a motion and we adjourn the meeting at 6:43 p.m. I will [1:35:25] motion and we adjourn the meeting at 6:43 p.m. I will [1:35:25] motion and we adjourn the meeting at 6:43 p.m. I will second that motion. All in [1:35:27] meeting at 6:43 p.m. I will second that motion. All in [1:35:28] meeting at 6:43 p.m. I will second that motion. All in favor? Aye, aye. Our meeting is [1:35:30] second that motion. All in favor? Aye, aye. Our meeting is [1:35:30] second that motion. All in favor? Aye, aye. Our meeting is adjourned, uh, tonight. Thank [1:35:32] favor? Aye, aye. Our meeting is adjourned, uh, tonight. Thank [1:35:32] favor? Aye, aye. Our meeting is adjourned, uh, tonight. Thank you very much. It is, uh, [1:35:37] adjourned, uh, tonight. Thank you very much. It is, uh, [1:35:37] adjourned, uh, tonight. Thank you very much. It is, uh, exactly 6:40, uh, and we're at [1:35:38] you very much. It is, uh, exactly 6:40, uh, and we're at [1:35:38] you very much. It is, uh, exactly 6:40, uh, and we're at the Bearda meeting room on [1:35:41] exactly 6:40, uh, and we're at the Bearda meeting room on [1:35:41] exactly 6:40, uh, and we're at the Bearda meeting room on September 10th. Uh, thank you [1:35:41] the Bearda meeting room on September 10th. Uh, thank you [1:35:41] the Bearda meeting room on September 10th. Uh, thank you very much for joining us on the [1:35:42] September 10th. Uh, thank you very much for joining us on the [1:35:42] September 10th. Uh, thank you very much for joining us on the Board of Trust Fund commission [1:35:44] very much for joining us on the Board of Trust Fund commission [1:35:44] very much for joining us on the Board of Trust Fund commission meeting. Why