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Good evening everyone. We'll call the
meeting to order. This meeting takes

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place in the traditional and ancestral
territory of the Migma people. We are

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all treaty people. There are no
additions or deletions to the agenda. So

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we'll move on to the approval of the
agenda. Recommendation that council

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approve the agenda for the September
8th, 2026 meeting as presented. Is there

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a mover? Moved by councelor Strong,
seconded by councelor Fullerton. All

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those in favor, raise your right hand.
Motion carried unanimous. Uh approval of

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the minutes. So 5.1 is council approved
the August 4th, 2026 regular meeting

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minutes as presented.
Moved by councelor Strong, seconded by

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councelor Babino. All those in favor,
raise your right hand. Motion carried

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unanimous. Now 5.2, 2. Uh recommendation
that council approve the August 11th,

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2026 regular meeting minutes as
presented. Mover [snorts] Council Ferton

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seconded. Councelor Strong. All those in
favor raise your right hand.

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Motion carry unanimous. So we're moving
on to presentations. And tonight we

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actually have two presentations before
us. So, the first presentation is from

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Greg and Peter from Kentfield, uh,
Kentfield.

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So, you guys come on up. You guys can
sit here if you'd like or [panting]

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we go.
All right. So, we're uh from Kenfield

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States Limited. Uh we're looking at uh
getting some help getting some potential

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uh pump station or lift station um
placed at the bottom of uh Centennial

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Avenue. Um so a little bit who we are.
Um Ken Fields been in operation since

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1975. Um the head office is in uh
Kentville uh Nova Scotia. Uh my father

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was born and raised in uh in Blockos um
and then uh relocated to uh to the

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valley and started the company in 1975 I
think was his first building. Um today

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we own uh manage and operate about just
over a thousand rental doors. Um and

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those rental doors are in the valley um
so shore here. So, we we got a new

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development that we'll highlight here
that's in in Blockos that's under

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underway. We've got some stuff in um in
Bridgewater. Um I think it's Victoria

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Road and and Victoria Grove and River
Grove. Um and then another development

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down a little further down in Liverpool,
Cobbs Ridge, which would be very similar

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in terms of our strategy on how to build
and and expand on a piece of property.

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Um, if you want to go to the next slide
there.

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Yeah, there we go. So, so basically what
we're asking for is the town to take um

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a look at putting a uh municipally owned
lift station in the bottom of um

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Centennial Centennial Centennial Avenue
um to not only service the uh PIDs that

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we currently have uh I think it's maybe
one PID now merged.

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» Yeah, it's been consolidated or it's in
the consolidation process. Yes. Um, but

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there's a bunch of land on the north
side of Centennial Avenue, the one that

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the lower kind of dip there that goes
up. I don't know how far it goes up, but

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there there's probably I don't know if
you have an idea of how many acres that

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is that's not owned by us.
>> I'm going to assume probably about 10

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acres on that side, you know?
>> Yeah. Um so and that areas obviously uh

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zoned high density by the town so future
development uh we're proposing um

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for the first phase two 16 unit
buildings uh and then potentially uh

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more after that. um where the lift
station uh is is going currently uh

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would pick up that uh additional acreage
on uh on Centennial.

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Um
if you want to maybe just go

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there

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just again that just touches on who we
are. Um, we own and operate our own

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buildings in terms of we don't outsource
the management. So, we're very heavily

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involved um in making sure the
properties are very well maintained.

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There we go. That's a little better
picture. So, these are the uh areas of

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the um of the property that we've
purchased on Centennial.

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And at the top of that, I think you can
go down to the next slide. So, that's

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our property that we've purchased. Uh I
think one down. I think there's another

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slide. Is it just showing the additional
land? There we go.

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[clears throat]
The top piece to um this lift station

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would potentially service that uh
undeveloped land right now for future

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for future for future use.

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Yeah, if you want to go back up two
slides. There we go.

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So yeah, this is a schematic that um
Peter's done up for the uh two 16 uh

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unit buildings and then the lower part
there um indicates two 8-unit buildings

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uh on the lower uh portion of the
Centennial there.

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So our proposal is um a townowned and
operated lift station. Um we do kind of

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spill out a few reasons why we think
it's beneficial for the town um to um

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keep the ownership of that um just with
the future future development um and the

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sizing of it. And Peter can maybe get a
little more detail on kind of the the

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size and then the what's needed to keep
those laterals or force mains cleared.

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yeah, maybe Pierre could talk a little
bit about just kind of infrastructure

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that he he feels that's needed and then
uh what the potential is for, you know,

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a larger lift.
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um I think one or two slides there.
Okay. Not sure. Um there's a cost

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breakdown on one of those uh schematics
there. Um that just shows kind of

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[snorts] an estimate on scale of what
we're assuming this would cost. So it's

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based off similar projects of similar
scale. Um right there just sorry I don't

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know if you can read that one or not.
Scroll then. Um, so we're looking for

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the actual lift station itself, um, uh,
valve chamber, and then I think it's

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about 75 m of force man to connect to
the existing, uh, gravity sanitary line

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that's on the top of Centennial A there.
Um, and if you can make that figure out,

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I believe it's it will probably be
around the $600,000

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uh, on the upper end uh, estimate to get
that infrastructure in.

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Um at this scale it's for what we're
proposing it's a relatively small lift

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station. Um and then even if these other
areas do get developed it will not be a

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large uh lift station uh
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won't be a large municipal lift station.
some of the other, you know, um,

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thoughts and reasons that, uh, were
coming forth for council, um,

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is the fact that you guys have some
access for infrastructure costs that we

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don't have access, um, to
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the other um, I guess the point that
Pier made um, you know, we could put a a

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smaller lift station in, but while the
infrastructure is going in now, it makes

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sense to kind of, I guess, plan for the
future. The town, I think, already has

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an amount, my research, has already I
think eight or nine lift stations that

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are owned and operated um by the town.
Um, and we feel like the increased

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property taxes and the uh sewer levy,
I'm not sure what you call it. Um, I

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think far surpasses kind of what the uh
ongoing costs uh and maintenance for the

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uh for such a lift station um that would
be municipally owned.

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» Okay. Uh, do you have anything else you
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» Uh, no. I think that's kind of like it's
pretty straightforward. I'm I'm sure I'm

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missing some stuff. I didn't actually
come prepared to actually present the

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whole presentation. So, if you guys have
read it and have specific, you know,

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questions, I'm more than happy to to
answer those.

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» Thank you. So, does anyone around the
table have any questions? Councelor

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Strong.
>> Um, right now I just have one question.

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If based through the chair, um,
>> I'm sure you've been around the town of

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Lunberg. Is there a comparable pump
house that you've seen in the town for

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me to put into my head?
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kind of the infrastructure and I don't
think by looking at it I we could

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actually tell. It's probably more the
the the inner workings of of the pump

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station. Um
yeah, exactly.

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» Any other questions?
>> Councelor Babino.

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» Thank you. So, uh, just to just to
clarify, what you guys are looking for

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right now is for us to proceed with
doing our own investigation as to cost.

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» That's correct. Yes. So, kind of that's
our kind of our figure that we came up

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with. Um, but in terms of like how if
you own the the asset, how you'd want to

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size it and and oversize it a little bit
in terms of having the ability to catch

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all the extra land there that's couldn't
be developed. And I think that, you

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know, looking at your uh zoning map,
that is kind of kind of that area where

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you're, you know, focused on like the
the high density kind of work. Um that

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land that kind of goes up and behind
there. So that would be one of the ways

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to to to catch that and make that
feasible.

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» Perfect. Thank you.
>> Yeah, no problem.

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» Any other questions? Councelor
Fullerton. Um, just curious and and I

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know you don't know this exactly, but
what kind of timeline are you hopeful to

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have this done? Yeah.
>> And ready so that it ties in with the

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construction of your units?
>> Yeah. So, essentially, we can't uh go

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forward with anything until kind of we
figure the the the pump lift station

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out. Um, but we're prepared to go as as
soon as possible. Like if you know if we

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got word next week that
that the town was going to invest in

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that lift station, we would probably be
breaking ground within the first 6

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months. Yeah. Very quickly. We like
we're um we're constantly kind of

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building and feel that this is a really
good opportunity uh to develop in in the

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town. So as soon as all your processes
are in place, you would be prepared to

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start construction.
>> Uh yeah. So it wouldn't be a start

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thing. We'd like to get started right
away. And if and if the uh existing

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infrastructure was was in place, we
would have probably broken ground by

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now.
>> Yeah.

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» Thank you.
>> Yeah, no problem.

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» Any other deputy mayor?
>> Um I I just want to say that this is

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very exciting.
>> Thanks. Um we've there's a lot of

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chatter around the community and in the
community about the need for housing and

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um
>> this project looks um you know like it

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has a lot to offer to the town. So
that's very exciting.

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» Um there there's some information in the
report that you know it certainly would

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need um um verification of from our own
town staff with the costs and that sort

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of thing. So we will be looking at that.
I know um you know your report didn't

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seem to um take into the account that
that our sewer rates are are designed to

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cover the sewer costs and tax rates are
separate and cover so many of the other

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municipal services that we supply. So
just just things like that but um very

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very um exciting prospect for the
community. So, um,

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» yeah, I think we've tried to spell out
kind of the potential, um, tax benefit

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for the for the town. Um, and then plus
the ongoing yearly per door, uh, levy

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for sewer. Um, we're I think we're well
within that um, cost frame for sure. Um

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yeah, and my my father who was brought
up in blockos wanted to be here tonight,

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but he had surgery last Friday night
with on his kidneys. So, he's home

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recovering, but um he's been very
excited to find an opportunity to to

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build here. He's it's kind of near and
dear to his heart. Um yeah,

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» just want to say and it was very much
appreciated the um examples you provided

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and um you know block house being close
by certainly uh to go out.

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» Say that you could definitely go take a
drive by that we've got I think a

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building under construction right now
but um all of those other buildings are

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pretty much full right now. So
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» Could tell from the activity at the
site.

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» Yeah, it's good. It was actually my um
that land was actually my grandparents.

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So they uh my father was brought up on
the the farm was right on the very top

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of block house and uh when they retired
they moved just down the street across

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from the Irving there. Um so that was my
grandparents

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land. Yeah. It's been in the family for
quite some time. Yeah.

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» I think if you scroll down to the bottom
of the presentation there are some

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example uh buildings. If anyone doesn't
know what what Kentfield,

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» a Cobb fridge, that would be Oops. Yeah,
that would be uh one of the eight unit

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buildings that uh we're proposing.
And there's uh kind of a picture of the

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a 16 unit. This one is not great just
because it doesn't have any kind of

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green in the in the front of it, but um
just the one we had there, a newer one

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that was I think that's cops.
>> Yeah, it's a cops in in Liverpool.

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and you guys would have access to kind
of like property online to kind of see

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the values of those and kind of see what
potential revenue that um they'll

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generate for the town. And you know I we
are aware that you know we we do have a

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a housing shortage and you know by some
of your numbers and some of the research

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I did you know have a mandate of some
rental units that you would like to have

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in in the community. So yeah, hopefully
we can help

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fill that. Yeah.
>> So through the chair and and to your CO,

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is it appropriate then to make a motion
for a staff report at this time?

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» So I'd be willing to to start make a
motion that um that council requests a

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staff report um heavily weighted on
public works and finance in response to

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the request of the presentation from um
Kent Field this evening. Um and

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ultimately on the ask that the town
provide a municipal sanitary sewer lift

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station to support the project.
>> Perfect. Yeah.

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» Is there a secondary? Seconded by
councelor Strong. Any further

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discussion? Councelor Ding.
>> I just have one question. It's a really

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simple question, but I was asked to ask
it tonight.

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» Uh lot six on page, it's 18 in mine.
Um, your proposed building comes right

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up almost
to the their backyard. There's going to

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there'll still be a tree line.
>> I'm Can you just point that one out

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where where you're referring to? Like
I'm not sure which which lot's which

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» to be honest. I can't see the screen. My
eyes are looking my glasses. So,

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» okay. It's right in here.
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» Yeah. That's
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» Okay. Um, so yeah, the building is set
off quite a ways. Right now, it's the uh

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the parking that currently extends um
within I think it's 10 ft of the

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property and then that could be left
that buffer zone there. It could be left

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treated or greened. Yeah.
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» Are there any other questions? just just
a highlight the the actual the power

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line goes up in between our lot and and
those homes there. So the there is a

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natural buffer kind of right now and we
have done a little bit of clearing just

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to kind of see you know placement and
stuff with with buildings. Um and we've

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we've left that barrier there where the
where the the power line is. Some of

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them will have to be replaced but um
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Any other questions or comments? Just
like to say if you want to see it to my

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colleagues because I've went out a
couple times and uh I actually took some

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pictures there sent to you guys about a
month ago when I met with Greg and

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Terry. So uh you know I just wanted to
see what it looked like. So I went out

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myself and it's it's right across the
street basically from the Irving

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» really from that Irving
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» Yeah. Block house. And you'll see what
they look like. So you know take a take

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a run out.
>> I drove by last weekend.

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» Yeah. And then again, we've got some
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down in Liverpool. So, um,
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pride in kind of what we build and how
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absentee.
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» excellent. So, motion on the floor. All
those in favor, raise your right hand.

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Motion carry unanimous. Thank you guys
very much. I guess you're off to a

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hockey. Yeah. Try it out. Good luck to
your daughter. Appreciate it, Council.

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Thank you.

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So, next on the agenda is uh 6.2
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Before we start, I'm going to leave the
chair. Councelor Babono has declared a

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conflict and councelor Dhoff has
declared a conflict. So, uh, we're we're

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all leaving the table. Deputy mayor, you
go.

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» So, welcome Greg and uh the floor is
yours.

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» But here. Okay, perfect.
So, I had your worship here, but good

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evening council and members of the
public. My name is Greg Huskelson. I'm

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one of the owners of Abco Industries.
I'm here today to discuss a proposal for

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Abco's water lot purchase and major
shipyard enhancement project. Thank you

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for allowing me to speak today.
Um, yeah, there we go. A Canadian

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strategy underpinned by historical
working waterfront. Canada is

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experiencing a geopolitical shift in its
global allies and our country's

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importance in the world is rising as a
stable voice. As the Arctic seaways open

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up, marine manufacturing and port
infrastructure are becoming

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missionritical strategic assets for our
national security. At Abco, we believe

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Lunenburgg Harbor and Abco Industry
Shipyard are well positioned to deliver

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for Canada and become a worldclass
technical marine manufacturing and

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sustainment center. Next slide. Go. So,
just a little bit of history on the on

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the on the Abco working waterfront. AB
the Abco site has always been an

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integral part of Lunenberg's working
waterfront. The image on the on the left

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shows a view of the tanard from 1936.
Since the 1870s, the island and

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shoreline were equipped with fish shacks
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fish for the commercial fishery. On on
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being converted into gunboats, courtesy
of the Norwegian Naval Museum. This

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shows the beginning of Camp Norway,
which was built to house, train, arm,

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and defend Norwegian Whalers displaced
during World War II after Germany's

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occupation of Norway. Norway needed help
defending their homeland from evil, and

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Abco answered the call. Next slide,
please. Um, so on on on this slide on

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the left is an image from 1941 showing
the new newly built Camp Norway that

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housed these sailors. The fish shacks
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in 1947, the built the buildings were
converted into offices and manufacturing

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space by their new owners, Atlantic
Bridge Company, which got its start

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building and refurbishing make and break
engines for the fishing industry. The

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image on the right shows the Abco site
in 1960, soon after the first steel

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manufacturing buildings were built. Also
in 1960, Abco built our first fiberglass

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boats, a contrast to the welded aluminum
boats built at Abco today. The evolution

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that you can see across these images
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many definitions, but it is also
something that adapts to the changing

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needs of the times. Next slide, please.
Perfect. So now focusing on the future,

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ABCO's plan is to expand, build, and
deliver. ABCO is in is investing in our

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shipyard to meet the strategic
infrastructure needs for Canada's

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military and security forces for vessels
up to 160 ft in length. We have a

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multi-year plan to invest in expanding
our slipway, invest in a new travel lift

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or a travel lift. Um, we invest in
expanding our manufacturing footprint,

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adding automation equipment. We're
looking to grow our headcount to over

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120 people, which would be more than
double what we have today. Um, and then

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we would also be looking to exp uh to
invest in skills employee skills

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training just because the work we do is
so specialized. Uh we believe that the

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benefits to Lunberg are revitalizing and
preserving the historic working

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waterfront, attracting talented working
age families, yearround full-time,

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highly skilled employment, increasing
the strategic value of Nova Scotia to

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Canadian security,
further investments and employment in

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Lunberg and economic benefits and
synergies with local businesses. So,

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just to just to touch on the pictures
there of on the right, the top image on

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the right shows what we mean by
expanding our slipway. So, we're looking

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at we're looking at having two warves
extend out into the harbor to access

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deeper water
um in the to launch and recover larger

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vessels. The middle image um shows the
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along the warves. Um, it's a it's a
large piece of infrastructure, but the

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the the beauty behind it is that it's
it's a mobile piece of infrastructure,

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so it wouldn't be blocking any views for
any extended period of time. Um, which

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is one of the reasons we're going with
this kind of of system. And then

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finally, the boat would be lifted onto
the travel lift and uh driven along the

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along the the the peers um onto the
shore and into the into the

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manufacturing building.
Next slide, please.

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So [clears throat] AB ABco believes it
is important to build in partnership

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with the town of Lunenburgg. In order to
deliver on this enhanced capability,

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Abco must acquire the red noted water
lot in the in the picture on the right

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there. Um acquiring and using water lots
has been common practice in Lunenburgg

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with water lots being granted as
recently as 2024.

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water lots allow the owner to best
protect the shoreline from climate

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change related impacts. Um, just as a
note, planned infrastructure. We're

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we're looking to to we're looking at
lowprofile and mobile infrastructure so

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that we can respect and preserve the
view of the town. Um, and just to be

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very clear, I want to put this very
clear, has no plans to infill and we

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will continue working with surrounding
businesses to ensure adequate harbor

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navigation.
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So, this is um this is our our request
to council. We have two of them down

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there, but I'll just go through this.
Request to council. Time is of the

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essence for Abco and Lunenberg to
capitalize on funding opportunities and

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historic federal investments in defense
procurement.

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We definitely don't want the opportunity
to pass us by. Purchasing a water lot in

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Lunberg Harbor is a Transport Canada
process as they are the owners of the

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public harbor. but they would feel much
more comfortable proceeding to a sale

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with council's support of the purchase.
Abco has engaged with marine engineers

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and shipyard designers and they require
extensive harbor harbor surveys to

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complete detailed designs for pre for
pricing and to to present to you. Um

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these surveys require Transport Canada
approval and coordination which which

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which is where the town comes in because
they don't they would they need really

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the support from the town before they
want to proceed any further. So, Abco

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requests uh the town of Lunberg hold a
public engagement session around the

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acquisition of a waterlock and
subsequently for the town to provide a

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letter of support for evidence of said
public engagement and confirming support

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for the acquisition and just as a oh no,
I actually have two more things. So,

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ABCO will help facilitate any meetings
or information council requires

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Transport Canada to help make your final
decision. And then before I conclude, I

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just wanted to um to read an email I
received from the Lunberg Waterfront

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Association. So they they they couldn't
be here. No one no one could be here

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tonight um from there, but but I do have
a I do have something I could read

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just on their feelings of the project.
So I was talking to chair Jim Moer and

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responding to my email he wrote the
Lunberg the LWAI Lunberg Waterfront

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Association board discussed your intent
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project that I'm describing to you your
plans align with the LWAI mandate of

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marine development and building a
working waterfront. It is not the

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position of the LWAI to endorse projects
and we do not a as we do not have the

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expertise to evaluate the many variables
that impact such a project. So fair

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enough. Um the mandate of the LWAI is
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provide stakeholder opinion to the to
the provincial government who own

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significant properties on the
waterfront. We can confirm that your

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proposed development appears to fit
within our within our desire to see a

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revitalized working waterfront and
assuming your plan meets all legal and

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regulatory requirements, it appears
aligned with the LWAI goals. So I uh I

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will stop there and um I welcome any
questions you have. Thank you for

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listening.
>> Thanks very much for the presentation.

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» Thank you.
um again, you know, more exciting

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opportunities for the town. So, it's
nice to hear. Um so, are there any

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questions of members of council, Mr.
Husklson, regarding the presentation?

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» And anything we don't discuss here, I'd
be happy to to follow up with. And

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anything I can't answer, I'll definitely
follow up with. So, this is a

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conversation I want to start here about
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a conversation to be had.
>> First question is a question that comes

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up on the the second bullet of the
request to council and that is that um

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uh the transport Canada would feel more
comfortable proceeding to a sale with

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the town of Lun town council support.
>> Correct.

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» And why would they be looking for that
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» I think they just want to make sure they
hear from stakeholders. I I don't want

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to speak for them at all, but I I
believe it's so that they can just make

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sure that they speak to all
stakeholders. They don't they and we

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don't want to do something that the
town, you know, isn't isn't in support

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of.
>> That's fine. That's that's how I roll,

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too. Yep.
>> Um now, if I can find those notes,

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unless anybody else wants to go first.
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» No, go ahead.

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Just just to build on councelor Stron's
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Greg, can you explain to us what other
regulatory agencies might be involved in

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purchasing a water lot?

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» In the purchase itself, I believe it
would just be Transport Canada. They may

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have other requirements that they want
us to meet. Um, and I I do not know the

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exact process of it, but I believe their
their real property disposal. If they

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were to to um decide that this was part
something to be uh what is it called? Um

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surplus land that they would dispose of,
they would then, I believe, go through

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the different levels of government to to
to get get feedback and I think even to

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to to to see if they had any plans for
for that area. So I I hope that answers

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your question, but
>> well, more or less. So regardless of

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other agencies or levels of government
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that manage that process.
>> Yes.

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» Okay.

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» Go ahead.

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» Uh through the chair, uh first of all,
thank you very much for coming in this

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evening, Greg, and uh providing this
presentation. Um I'm not sure if you're

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necessarily able to answer the this
question at this stage as it's early in

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the process, but do you have a rough
idea an estimate length of how far uh

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you know this potential slipway would
extend into the harbor?

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» It really depends on what the survey
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Um a lot of this so just to speak for
the for the um designers that we've

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we've talked to. So we we are engaging
with one right now. um they if if say

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there's bedrock that completely changes
it. So what we're looking to do is you

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know putting the two warves out we are
going to need some depth there. So that

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might require some dredging but if
there's all bedrock there that would be

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very difficult to dredge. So it might
make it so we can't even do that. So I I

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I guess
um maybe you could remind me of the

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question. I'm [laughter] sorry I went
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» Just an estimated length potentially.
>> Oh yeah. So, I I I don't it I don't have

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an estimated length. Somewhere within
the the red block, but it would it would

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likely extend it would likely extend
past the warf we have now or utilize

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that wararf and maybe extend it um
within those bounds. So, no, I don't

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have but I can I can look up and see if
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» Okay. Thank you very much.
>> Yeah, thank you.

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» This sort of tags onto that one and I
should have thanked you for the

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presentation. I'm sorry.
>> Yeah. No, not at all. Um uh cuz I'm

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looking at the the outline in red. Um
and I'm just curious like we're talking

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about
um the slipway going out.

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» Does it have to use up the entire water
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» Not necessarily. Um
>> it looks a little close to the shipyard,

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I guess, is what I'm seeing.
[clears throat] I don't know how that

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boat that's parked at the shipyard would
get in there with [sighs]

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it would have to have permission from
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» And I think I think we're certainly open
um to to deciding on what the actual

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bounds need to look like and I'm very
open. I mean that they still need to do

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business and they need to get boats in
and out of there. Um so I think I think

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the answer is we're we're we're willing
to work with with stakeholders to to to

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make it make sense. As you can kind of
see, it follows the the little I guess

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00:33:05,279 --> 00:33:11,279
you call it a dog leg of the of the warf
we have now, just where it goes parallel

408
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:14,799
with the warf and then parallel with the
with the angled section. And that was

409
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:17,760
just that's just we and we don't know
exactly how much room we're going to

410
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:22,000
need, but that was just kind of our best
guess at how much room we'd need to

411
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:25,919
utilize our existing boat launch that's
there on the other side. So, we just

412
00:33:23,919 --> 00:33:29,919
wanted to make sure we had room. They
they they're definitely expanding down

413
00:33:27,679 --> 00:33:33,200
there. So I think just making it clear
you know where the lines are and your

414
00:33:31,919 --> 00:33:39,840
stuff our stuff and then we can work
together. But yes

415
00:33:35,679 --> 00:33:44,960
» and and you mentioned the 2023
>> the the last water law 2024 I believe I

416
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:48,559
saw during my little research.
>> You know how many have been in the last

417
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:52,320
10 years or that's the difficult
question. I could get asked that if if

418
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:57,600
we end up going to a staff report.
>> How many?

419
00:33:54,320 --> 00:34:01,679
Um anyway, um
uh yeah, I'd be curious to know how many

420
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:04,880
leases there are actually out there
right now.

421
00:34:02,399 --> 00:34:10,560
» What what I saw, if I may, if um what I
saw was I believe one was granted to the

422
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:16,879
foundry or at least applied for in 2016
over beside us. They plant one in the

423
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:23,440
early 2000s, 200 maybe even 2009. Um,
there was one uh granted for Highlininer

424
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:27,919
for their water lot and Build Nova
Scotia over the last since 2016. I can't

425
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:32,000
tell you exactly when it started, but
I'd say Build Nova Scotia has acquired

426
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:37,520
three large water lots on the other
side.

427
00:34:34,159 --> 00:34:40,079
» Probably right. Um,
>> just but I'll get some better

428
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:42,960
information on that.
>> So, [clears throat] what what do you

429
00:34:40,879 --> 00:34:46,800
need from us here tonight?
Well, and I'm new to this process, so I

430
00:34:44,879 --> 00:34:50,560
don't exactly know what the [laughter]
That's perfect. No, I mean, ult

431
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:54,079
ultimately what we want is a letter of
approval should you decide that you

432
00:34:52,240 --> 00:34:58,480
approve or a letter of support, sorry,
should you decide that you support it

433
00:34:56,560 --> 00:35:02,480
tonight, but obviously we we want to
know maybe maybe hear feedback from you

434
00:35:00,720 --> 00:35:07,760
what the next step should be, whether it
should be a formal um uh public

435
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:11,760
engagement session, when what what are
the steps we need to take to to get to

436
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:14,320
that decision? So, I don't know what
what I need

437
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:19,119
» through the chair,
I guess, through the chair to staff. Um,

438
00:35:17,839 --> 00:35:22,240
this sounds like something that we'd
actually need a staff report on first

439
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:28,880
before we'd start into the public
process. And so, I would suggest

440
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:34,160
that we do the same thing that we just
did with the last presentation. And I

441
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:41,200
don't know how to form that into a
motion other than to say to direct staff

442
00:35:37,839 --> 00:35:46,240
to provide um
um

443
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:52,640
a staff report on and I guess the things
that we really need need to know are um

444
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:56,720
what what are leases actually exist uh
because I don't have a p I'd like to see

445
00:35:54,720 --> 00:36:03,520
the graphics of all the leases in the in
the water and see where they were

446
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:07,200
working with each other I guess and um
uh

447
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:11,520
yeah and that that question from
councelor Fullerton was the other

448
00:36:09,119 --> 00:36:14,960
governmental departments involved I
think would be in acquiring a waterfront

449
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:21,359
lease would be good for the public to
know if they're going to weigh in on

450
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:26,880
this and what what rights the town would
have or does it have any um over

451
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:29,760
planning and use of the water lot if it
exchanges hands

452
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:41,680
Sir,
>> is that that is that all I need to

453
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:48,400
just So, so is that sort of um is are we
creating a motion in process? So, okay.

454
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:54,000
Um
so being moved by councelor strong that

455
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:59,440
we get a staff report and we are
collaborating on the content of that

456
00:36:56,800 --> 00:37:02,720
staff report. Um councelor fich
>> I'll second.

457
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:09,520
» Okay.
Sorry. Moved and seconded.

458
00:37:06,079 --> 00:37:13,599
Any further additions?
>> Mr. Husson. What is your timeline for

459
00:37:11,599 --> 00:37:16,960
when because you noted within your
presentation you wanted to apply for

460
00:37:15,119 --> 00:37:20,480
grants and with what's going on with
national defense and what's coming up.

461
00:37:18,240 --> 00:37:24,720
What what is your anticipated timeline
for your applications as well as what is

462
00:37:22,240 --> 00:37:30,400
your anticipated timeline for when you
would hope to you know engage in further

463
00:37:27,359 --> 00:37:37,599
into the the purchase process?
>> Um I don't have hard timelines or I mean

464
00:37:33,599 --> 00:37:42,880
I I think you immediately is uh is is is
as soon as humanly possible. Yes. Um I

465
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:47,040
think there is um some time. I think
there's a few weeks that the that the

466
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:53,520
designer is going to need to book in the
barge to do the proper um the proper

467
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:57,200
analysis of the bottom. Um
yeah, I mean to get started. So that so

468
00:37:55,440 --> 00:38:01,680
just just to tell you what we've so we
what we've received back is kind of we

469
00:37:59,920 --> 00:38:04,160
we tal reached out to three people and
or three different companies and they

470
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:10,880
all came kind of came back with a
two-phaseed um approach. one being a um

471
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:16,320
a phase one uh conceptual rough order
magnitude budgetary number and then the

472
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:22,720
second would be a more detailed design
of um of all that but yeah so so to get

473
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:26,960
to to get to a hard timeline I'd be it'd
be very difficult but once we can once

474
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:30,079
we can get the survey started once we
know the location in the harbor where

475
00:38:29,119 --> 00:38:34,320
we're actually going to be able to
survey based on the water lot it's it's

476
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:42,000
a little bit of a circular thing here
but Um, so yeah, [laughter] I I was I

477
00:38:38,720 --> 00:38:44,880
mean I wouldn't start
breaking ground in 6 months I think.

478
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:49,119
» Okay, that was where I was going to ask.
Would be looking at spring spring summer

479
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:50,880
of 2027 is what you're anticipated at
this point.

480
00:38:49,359 --> 00:38:54,640
» I I think that we can put that down.
Yeah. I

481
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:59,920
» Is there anything to prevent the survey
going ahead? Yeah. So you can do your

482
00:38:56,880 --> 00:39:05,760
survey. I think
nobody's going to stand out there and

483
00:39:01,599 --> 00:39:09,680
protest. No, the the only the only so we
had talked to Transport Canada had their

484
00:39:07,599 --> 00:39:12,880
process of we want surveys done and
we're going to do all that in in house

485
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:15,839
transport Canada talking. Um we had
asked them if we if we could expedite

486
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:20,400
that at all by ourselves and they had
said no. And so really we do need

487
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:25,040
something from the town even if it's
just a all right they've come to us and

488
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:30,079
and and explained what they want to do
but we need something from the town that

489
00:39:27,359 --> 00:39:34,240
shows that to allow transport Canada to
move forward with allowing surveys of

490
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:40,640
that magnitude.
>> Is is a time frame too ownorous for

491
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:44,640
staff to do such a report?
uh through you chair we'd be looking at

492
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:51,280
probably within the month of October of
having a report forward. Um if there's

493
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:54,800
no uh through you chair I mean you're
not you wouldn't be approving for a

494
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:59,520
survey to go through what you would be
doing is allowing them to continue to do

495
00:39:57,119 --> 00:40:02,400
work to gather information. You're not
providing a letter of support. What you

496
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:07,599
could even say is if you wanted to have
a motion for the allowance of that with

497
00:40:05,599 --> 00:40:10,800
report coming back explaining further
before a letter of support comes

498
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:14,640
forward. right now, council, you don't
have enough information.

499
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:20,200
It would be my recommendation
>> for the public to be able to weigh in.

500
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:20,200
So, that's my concern.

501
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:31,920
» Yeah.
>> So, councelor Fitin, you had more

502
00:40:27,839 --> 00:40:37,520
questions, comments do. Yes. Um just um
clarification and since that that slide

503
00:40:34,720 --> 00:40:43,280
is up on the screen for us and for
people who are here or watching, are you

504
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:48,079
talking about extending the wararf that
you have now or building a second warf?

505
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:51,440
» There will definitely
>> for the travel lift,

506
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:56,079
» there will need to be a second war for
two two wars regardless just so that the

507
00:40:53,520 --> 00:41:01,200
travel lift has has room to travel. Um
if we can utilize our existing warf, we

508
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:06,880
will. Um, it's just a matter of of the
the designer seeing if it's if it can

509
00:41:03,839 --> 00:41:09,680
handle what we want to do with it and uh
and going from there. So,

510
00:41:08,240 --> 00:41:13,599
» part of that has to do with the results
from the survey of the seabed.

511
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:17,119
» Yeah. Okay. And I mean, I'm familiar
with how the travel lift works. So, as

512
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:21,119
long as you have the depth at the end of
the travel lift,

513
00:41:18,720 --> 00:41:26,640
» then as the vessel enters into the
slipway, it gets lifted immediately and

514
00:41:23,359 --> 00:41:31,280
then is above. Oh, the depth next to
shoreline doesn't matter as much as it

515
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:34,480
does at the end of the slipway.
>> Absolutely right. No,

516
00:41:32,720 --> 00:41:38,240
» just from a design point of actually
putting the piles in to make the wararf

517
00:41:36,720 --> 00:41:40,960
to get out there, that's what they need
to know. But you're absolutely right.

518
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:43,040
That's the that's that's the way we're
going to use this.

519
00:41:41,839 --> 00:41:45,599
» Okay. Okay.
>> Which one? The

520
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:49,839
» stay there.
>> The warves. The wolves. Yes. So, the

521
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:53,680
idea would be that they'd be low as
possible. Um

522
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:57,000
» Yes. Absolutely.
>> No. No. Absolutely.

523
00:41:57,359 --> 00:42:03,359
» Thank you.
>> Thank you.

524
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:07,680
» Okay. Because there was another
Okay. There was another thing and that

525
00:42:04,720 --> 00:42:13,119
was uh obviously a hot topic in
Lunenburgg is the uh power

526
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:17,040
» power.
>> So, you want me to make the motion?

527
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:23,520
» Um there's somebody that's not with
broken foot. I think I think we have um

528
00:42:21,119 --> 00:42:29,800
the semblance of or the [clears throat]
first part of a motion and I'll look to

529
00:42:25,839 --> 00:42:29,800
RCA out to repeat

530
00:42:34,720 --> 00:42:41,599
too many microphones. [laughter]
I just wanted to add that you know I had

531
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:46,400
about a dozen what I would call picky
little questions that you've answered in

532
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:51,920
your presentation and with subsequent
dialogue. So that's great. Um, and I

533
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:57,280
think that would it be okay, Rachel, for
us to compile our collective questions

534
00:42:55,119 --> 00:43:01,920
and give those to staff to make sure the
staff report we get back is

535
00:42:59,599 --> 00:43:06,400
comprehensive.
>> I'm looking to our CEO who's nodding

536
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:10,400
frantically, but that that looks like it
probably is is more doable. So yes.

537
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:15,119
Yeah. So we don't have to worry about
capturing every question we might have

538
00:43:12,240 --> 00:43:18,800
in a motion itself, but um can direct
questions

539
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:20,079
in order for it not to have to go back a
couple of times.

540
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:22,880
» Yes,
>> I think it would be helpful if we can do

541
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:28,640
that.
>> That makes good sense. So, so, um, Mr.

542
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:33,440
Nooper, if you could share with us what
the motion might look like anyway.

543
00:43:31,359 --> 00:43:38,640
» Uh, so through you, chair. Uh so the
motion at the table uh is that um uh

544
00:43:36,720 --> 00:43:45,280
council direct staff to bring forward a
report on the Abco waterfront purchase

545
00:43:41,599 --> 00:43:51,760
um regarding their uh ship design and
warf uh with at least a minimum of

546
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:55,440
feedback on water lot leases existing uh
and what is transport Canada and other

547
00:43:53,680 --> 00:44:00,880
government's uh distributions within
that and then any other questions as it

548
00:43:57,839 --> 00:44:04,960
pertains to council before uh a meeting
here. So then we would have the rights

549
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:08,800
of the town uh or have any other
planning of the water lots and power and

550
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:11,280
infrastructure considerations. So we
have four main questions but more

551
00:44:10,240 --> 00:44:14,280
questions to come.
>> Yeah.

552
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:25,200
» So with a motion that captures the those
four primary questions with the

553
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:31,839
allowance of um further questions to um
uh be incorporated into a staff report

554
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:38,720
to follow soon. I would hope um
questions that we have. Um so um is

555
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:44,240
council satisfied with that motion as
it's presented.

556
00:44:41,359 --> 00:44:49,040
Yes, councelor Strong.
>> Do I have to read it again?

557
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:53,480
» I'll move because there's no way I could
do that. So So

558
00:44:54,240 --> 00:45:03,599
» So it's moved and seconded. So I can
call for the question. All in favor? Any

559
00:45:01,359 --> 00:45:08,400
contrary-minded? No one left to
contraryminded. So motions carried and

560
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:10,880
we will get working on a staff report.
And thank you very much for the

561
00:45:09,839 --> 00:45:15,520
presentation.
>> Thank you. And and if you have any

562
00:45:12,319 --> 00:45:19,200
questions, please you have my email. So
>> through you, chair. One additional

563
00:45:17,119 --> 00:45:23,440
question. Uh there was a request here to
allow them to continue doing surveying

564
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:29,000
within the scope. Does council want to
have a motion to support the surveying

565
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:29,000
at this point in time?

566
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:38,480
Uh,
>> I think Mr. Poselson responded that

567
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:41,480
Transport Canada wants to have this part
done.

568
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:48,880
Um,
I think that'd be the ideal. But if if

569
00:45:46,079 --> 00:45:52,880
it if if if if
even you reaching out to Transport

570
00:45:51,119 --> 00:45:59,920
Canada
uh gets them to allow us to do this in a

571
00:45:55,839 --> 00:46:03,119
in a in a what would you call it? I
don't know what I'm saying there. But

572
00:46:01,119 --> 00:46:07,200
but I think I have a feeling though if
if if if town council was to reach out

573
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:13,480
to Transport Canada and have a
conversation, you probably figure out

574
00:46:09,599 --> 00:46:13,480
what needs to happen there.

575
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:18,280
» Yeah.
>> Y Thank you. Thank you.

576
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:27,040
» Can you there shut off the mic? Thank
you very much. We get caught off with

577
00:46:25,119 --> 00:46:33,680
only two mics can function at the same
time. So, we found that out. Um and uh

578
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:38,960
again and yes, so so if there's any
issue with that and then we can

579
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:44,319
certainly um reconsider, but we should
be good to go. So having said that, we

580
00:46:41,839 --> 00:46:48,760
can uh call back our colleagues to the
table and continue on with the agenda.

581
00:47:43,119 --> 00:47:51,280
Thank you very much. Uh we're now uh to
public input and questions. There was no

582
00:47:48,319 --> 00:47:56,160
one signed down, so a few people came
late. If they'd like to say anything, uh

583
00:47:53,680 --> 00:48:02,240
now would be the time. Just uh put your
hand up.

584
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:06,240
Okay. So, nobody in public input and
questions. So, we're going to move on

585
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:13,520
then
to correspondence. Uh

586
00:48:09,599 --> 00:48:19,200
there are a few items on there that uh
action is required uh required I guess

587
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:24,400
8.4 but I think we've passed the
deadline. Unfortunately, it came late to

588
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:28,559
us. It only came about a week before it
was due. We can still provide it if you

589
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:34,040
guys are okay with that.
We'll need a motion or something.

590
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:43,760
» Um
if if I have the floor, your worship.

591
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:50,000
» So um the request was for a letter of
support for a um proposal to build Nova

592
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:54,800
Scotia, I think. and and kind of like
the uh LWAI, we wouldn't necessarily

593
00:48:53,040 --> 00:49:01,440
support a particular business
proposition, but I think it's very much

594
00:48:56,720 --> 00:49:07,359
in order that we um uh demonstrate or or
give a letter um supporting the um the

595
00:49:04,720 --> 00:49:13,599
type of business um that this proponent
is is speaking of and um indicate that

596
00:49:10,720 --> 00:49:19,040
it certainly is consistent with our hope
for a working waterfront as integral to

597
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:24,240
the town of Lunberg.
So I would move that we provide such a

598
00:49:21,599 --> 00:49:28,720
letter and hope that it's helpful.
>> Moved by the deputy mayor, seconded by

599
00:49:26,079 --> 00:49:33,760
councelor Fullerton. Uh any further
discussion table? It for those that

600
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:39,680
might not have read it uh in the
audience, it's it's slicker marine

601
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:43,599
innovation hub. So it'll be be similar,
I think, to a cove type thing in

602
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:47,839
Dartmouth. So, I know it's it's
something that we've been interested in

603
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:52,240
or the community has been to to be in
that building and on the waterfront for

604
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:57,680
a while. So, a letter of support I I
don't think will is a bad thing. So, all

605
00:49:54,880 --> 00:50:03,200
those in favor raise your right hand.
You have a second.

606
00:49:59,599 --> 00:50:07,559
Motion carry unanimous. Uh
we have do we have to do anything with

607
00:50:04,559 --> 00:50:07,559
8.5?

608
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:17,200
I think the next one is 8.7. We have a
proclamation request international day

609
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:23,359
for eradication of poverty. Is someone
prepared to move by councelor Ferton?

610
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:26,559
Second it by deputy mayor. Any questions
or concerns?

611
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:31,200
Go ahead deputy mayor.
>> I just want to make the comment that

612
00:50:28,079 --> 00:50:36,800
it's it's already a UN declared special
day of recognition. So if we kind of

613
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:43,119
it's not inappropriate that the council
declare such a or day.

614
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:46,400
through you chair just a process for
council staff are seeking direction if

615
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:50,000
you want a like an actual proclamation
brought forward this was just a letter

616
00:50:47,839 --> 00:50:52,880
of request so we have time because it's
October 17th so we could bring it

617
00:50:51,599 --> 00:50:56,319
forward at one of the next meetings with
a full proclamation so if you just give

618
00:50:54,800 --> 00:51:01,440
if you want to proceed with that then it
would just be direction as follows

619
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:06,559
» so is the mover and second okay with
that

620
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:10,880
okay any other discussion
all those in favor raise your right hand

621
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:16,000
motion carry unanimous
Number nine is business arising and

622
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:20,960
unfinished business. There isn't any. Uh
number 10, new business. Uh the first

623
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:26,079
one is municipal fire inspector
appointment that uh count. Do you want

624
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:30,960
to talk on that or is that's just a
motion? Yeah. So that council appoint

625
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:35,680
Nicole Colback as a municipal fire
inspector for the town of Lunberg

626
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:39,040
pursuant to Nova Scotia Fire Safety Act
and that council direct the chief

627
00:51:37,599 --> 00:51:43,280
administrative officer to provide
written notice of the appointment to the

628
00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:46,880
Nova Scotia Fire Marshall as required by
legislation.

629
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:50,880
So appear to move that move by councelor
Fitton, second by councelor Babino. Any

630
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:56,720
questions?
Councelor Doffne. Oh, maybe it's a good

631
00:51:54,079 --> 00:52:02,000
idea to explain
how she got appointed. And for the

632
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:05,839
people out there that don't understand
like it didn't come from us is what I'm

633
00:52:04,319 --> 00:52:10,400
saying.
>> Yeah. So through you, chair. So, as part

634
00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:15,040
of our uh joint agreement that we have
with modal for uh hosting both municipal

635
00:52:13,599 --> 00:52:19,520
fire inspection services and building
inspection services uh that we purchase,

636
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:24,640
uh they needed to hire a new staff
member uh in the fire marshall or under

637
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:28,720
the fire inspectors. So, in order for us
to proceed to have this fire inspector

638
00:52:26,720 --> 00:52:32,160
actually do work within the town, they
actually have to be appointed by

639
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:36,960
council. So, this is the just the formal
process. Uh, Miss Callback has all the

640
00:52:35,119 --> 00:52:40,079
necessary criteria and credentials to
meet the specifications as a fire

641
00:52:38,559 --> 00:52:43,920
inspector. I did have the opportunity to
meet her. Uh, I'm impressed with her

642
00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:49,119
abilities and skills. So, I'm interested
in excited to have her join modal, but

643
00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:52,880
as well as be a part of our inspection
services that we offer through our

644
00:52:50,319 --> 00:52:58,079
planning department.
>> Thank you. So, there is a recommendation

645
00:52:55,280 --> 00:53:04,400
on the floor.
All those in favor, raise your right

646
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:09,920
hand. Motion carried. Unanimous 10.2 uh
two Saltier Inc. In information report,

647
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:14,000
Paul, I think you're up for that.
>> Thank you, council. Uh so this report is

648
00:53:12,319 --> 00:53:18,640
the Sultter Inc. playing appeal and
further appeal to the Nova Scotia Court

649
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:24,400
of Appeals. Uh so council at the August
11th meeting uh after a close session

650
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:28,960
discussion of with feedback from legal
uh you made a motion out of close

651
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:33,440
session to proceed with going to the
Nova Scotia Court of Appeals as it

652
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:39,760
becomes uh as it pertained to the Nova
Scotia Regulatory and Appeals Board's

653
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:44,480
decision uh on the Sultter appeal. So,
uh, the report does give a a lengthy

654
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:48,960
background here as to, uh, the
processes, uh, that have been before us,

655
00:53:47,119 --> 00:53:54,559
uh, the decisions council made November
25th, uh, where council decided to

656
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:57,280
unanimously unanimously vote to deny the
request of the planning amendments that

657
00:53:55,920 --> 00:54:03,119
were before you for the soulare
development, uh, from which, uh, there

658
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:09,440
was an appeal made to the Nova Scotia
uh, regulatory and appeals board. And so

659
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:14,800
for March 23rd through 27th, 2026,
um there was an appeal process here with

660
00:54:12,559 --> 00:54:21,440
uh final submissions made by each legal
team on May 15th. And on July 13th,

661
00:54:18,079 --> 00:54:26,000
2026, the board itself made its decision
uh allowing the uh the appeal and

662
00:54:24,319 --> 00:54:30,160
directing council to approve the
application. Following review uh of the

663
00:54:28,720 --> 00:54:34,640
board's decision and legal advice,
council exercises statutory right to

664
00:54:32,240 --> 00:54:38,720
appeal to the court uh uh the Nova
Scotia Court of Appeal.

665
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:43,280
So, just give me one sec. I just got to
back out here. So, as well as uh

666
00:54:41,599 --> 00:54:47,359
outlined in the report was the pl the
municipal planning processes, the appeal

667
00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:50,960
before the Nova Scotia regulatory
appeals board. And I think it's

668
00:54:49,119 --> 00:54:55,119
important that I highlight the appeals
to the Nova Scotia Court of Appeals so

669
00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:59,040
that the public understands the next
process. So the I'm just going to read

670
00:54:57,119 --> 00:55:02,960
this verbatim here. So the Nova Scotia
Court of Appeals serves a significantly

671
00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:07,520
different role than the Nova Scotia
Regulatory Appeals Board. The court is

672
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:11,839
not conducting a new planning review,
planning hearing, or reconsideration of

673
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:16,640
the development application itself.
Rather, the court uh reviews the board's

674
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:21,040
decision to determine whether appealable
legal issues exist relating to matters

675
00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:24,480
such as law, jurisdiction, procedural
fairness, or the interpretation and

676
00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:29,359
application of the legislation and
planning policy. The court generally

677
00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:33,119
relies upon the evidentiary uh record
established before the board. Unlike the

678
00:55:31,599 --> 00:55:38,160
board proceedings, the appeal is not
normally an opportunity to reintroduce

679
00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:42,880
extensive new evidence received uh uh
receive expert testimony or undertake a

680
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:47,119
new assessment of the planning merits of
the proposal. The court is therefore

681
00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:50,559
generally not being asked to determine
whether additional housing is required

682
00:55:48,799 --> 00:55:54,799
within the community, whether the
proposed development is desirable or

683
00:55:52,240 --> 00:55:58,799
undesirable, whether residential support
or uh whether residents support or

684
00:55:56,720 --> 00:56:02,799
oppose the proposal, whether one
planning outcome is preferable to

685
00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:06,559
another, or whether broader growth,
housing, economic development or

686
00:56:04,720 --> 00:56:10,400
heritage policy objectives should
prevail.

687
00:56:08,079 --> 00:56:14,799
These matters form part of the municipal
planning and board uh review processes.

688
00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:19,440
The court's review is focused on the
legal issues raised on appeal and the

689
00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:22,720
board's application of the governing
legislative framework. If the court

690
00:56:21,359 --> 00:56:26,799
dismisses the appeal, the board's
decision would remain in effect. If the

691
00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:31,760
court allows the appeal, it may provide
a remedy authorized by law, including

692
00:56:29,119 --> 00:56:35,599
varying or setting aside the board's
decision or directing further

693
00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:39,839
proceedings consistent with the court's
reasons. So, considerations raised

694
00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:44,240
through public correspondence. So you
did receive u numerous letters uh that

695
00:56:42,319 --> 00:56:47,440
came in. Questions raised through public
correspondence were related to the

696
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:51,760
statutory rights of appe uh of
applicants to appeal planning decisions,

697
00:56:50,079 --> 00:56:55,760
council's authority to appeal decisions
of the board, the distinction between

698
00:56:53,599 --> 00:56:59,040
the board's hearing process and the
court appeal process, financial

699
00:56:57,599 --> 00:57:03,760
implications associated with the
proceedings, and potential outcomes

700
00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:06,640
under the appeal process. So these
questions have been raised regarding

701
00:57:05,119 --> 00:57:10,799
housing supply, residential growth,
economic development, infrastructure,

702
00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:15,280
taxation, heritage, conservation, UNESCO
designation, and the town's long-term

703
00:57:12,720 --> 00:57:19,599
planning direction. Uh these are
important public policy matters.

704
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:23,440
However, they extend beyond the scope of
the current court of appeal process and

705
00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:28,880
are more appropriately considered
through council strategic direction and

706
00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:32,960
initiatives. So potential outcomes, the
court uh of appeal may dismiss the

707
00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:37,520
appeal, allow the appeal, vary the
board's decisions where authorized by

708
00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:41,520
law, or direct further proceedings. Any
further actions available to any party

709
00:57:39,599 --> 00:57:45,359
would depend on the court's decision,
applicable legislation, and legal advice

710
00:57:43,359 --> 00:57:48,720
available at the time. As the matter
remains before the court, staff cannot

711
00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:52,480
speculate regarding potential future
litigation, additional appeals, legal

712
00:57:50,559 --> 00:57:56,880
claims, or the likelihood of any
particular outcome. Should additional

713
00:57:54,720 --> 00:58:00,319
decisions be required, count uh
following uh the council's

714
00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:04,640
determination, staff will return to
council with information available uh

715
00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:10,079
available options and necessary
recommendations. So council uh just so

716
00:58:07,839 --> 00:58:14,640
for further legislative so this falls
under the MGA our municipal planning

717
00:58:12,240 --> 00:58:18,400
strategy our land use uh bylaw the Nova
Scotia regulatory and appeals board acts

718
00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:23,599
and board rules as well as the Nova
Scotia court of appeals rules and

719
00:58:20,079 --> 00:58:28,000
applicable uh uh procedures as come that
what has also become in question is what

720
00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:31,920
is the cost so the town has incurred and
will continue to incur based on the

721
00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:35,760
council's decision legal and
administrative costs associated with the

722
00:58:33,599 --> 00:58:39,280
NSA proceedings. as well as the
subsequent appeal to the Nova Scotia

723
00:58:37,119 --> 00:58:43,680
Court of Appeal. The majority of legal,
technical expertise, administrative, and

724
00:58:41,839 --> 00:58:48,640
staff related costs associated with this
matter were incurred during the actual

725
00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:52,880
hearing process. The board proceedings
involved preparation of evidence,

726
00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:56,160
documentation, production, legal
submissions, hearing, attendance, uh

727
00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:59,440
witness participation, planning,
analysis, and development of the

728
00:58:57,440 --> 00:59:03,680
evidentiary records consistent uh
considered by the board. By comparison,

729
00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:08,880
the court of appeal process uh
proceedings is generally narrowed in

730
00:59:05,359 --> 00:59:12,400
scope and primarily relies upon a record
the record already established in the

731
00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:16,240
board process. While legal costs
associated with the court proceedings

732
00:59:14,319 --> 00:59:19,599
will continue to be incurred, the appeal
does not typically involve the same

733
00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:23,280
degree of evidence gathering, hearing
preparation, technical review, and

734
00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:28,240
witness participation associated with
the earlier board processes. Staff

735
00:59:26,160 --> 00:59:32,960
involvement in the court processes is
expected to be primarily involved uh

736
00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:36,880
involve coordination with legal counsel
monitoring the procedural requirements

737
00:59:34,799 --> 00:59:40,640
and communicating uh communication
supports. Uh expenditures will continue

738
00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:44,559
to be monitored through the tales
financial reporting processes. Any

739
00:59:42,799 --> 00:59:49,119
additional budget implications will be
reported to council as appropriate. Uh

740
00:59:47,040 --> 00:59:53,280
provided below is a chart outlining the
current cost to date. These costs do not

741
00:59:51,359 --> 00:59:57,280
represent town staff costs associated
with the processes of the appeal. The

742
00:59:55,520 --> 01:00:02,240
Nova Scotia Court of Appeal processes
has an estimated cost of 30 to $35,000

743
00:59:59,920 --> 01:00:06,960
in addition to the expenses to date. Uh
with the current so within our our

744
01:00:05,040 --> 01:00:11,559
experts and as well as our legal team,
our current total is $92,1379.

745
01:00:12,640 --> 01:00:20,000
Council at this point in time uh any
public communication uh requires factual

746
01:00:17,359 --> 01:00:23,200
procedural and will remain neutral. So
any communications as council wishes

747
01:00:21,839 --> 01:00:27,359
will provide the history of the
application, the board's decision,

748
01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:32,240
council's decision to appeal, the status
of the court processes, and any publicly

749
01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:36,400
available procedural updates.
Chair, that is the report based on the

750
01:00:34,880 --> 01:00:42,160
information that we have today.
>> Thank you very much, Paul. Are there any

751
01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:46,319
questions for Paul or comments? [snorts]
Deputy mayor,

752
01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:52,079
» just um it's in the report. It's a
recommendation that we accept. Do we is

753
01:00:48,559 --> 01:00:56,000
a formal motion required? Okay.
Thanks for the report. Thanks. Very

754
01:00:53,920 --> 01:01:00,960
comprehensive.
>> Any other comments or questions around

755
01:00:58,160 --> 01:01:05,599
the table? Council Strong,
>> I'm just curious. Should the grounds of

756
01:01:02,559 --> 01:01:13,480
appeal be read into the record? I know
they're here, but will people see them?

757
01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:13,480
They don't tend to read everything.

758
01:01:15,920 --> 01:01:24,079
I I guess we we'll just put them in the
minutes, I think. Yeah. Okay. Well, we

759
01:01:21,599 --> 01:01:27,440
can read them that are here, but I think
we just put them in the minutes.

760
01:01:25,119 --> 01:01:28,960
» You want I can read them, but there's a
>> there's there's four

761
01:01:28,640 --> 01:01:33,760
» Yep.
>> There's four grounds of appeal. So, if

762
01:01:31,520 --> 01:01:37,599
you want Paul to read them. Yeah. Go
ahead.

763
01:01:35,119 --> 01:01:42,079
» So, uh under the grounds of appeal, the
grounds of appeal are as follows. Number

764
01:01:39,760 --> 01:01:46,960
one, the board aired at law by treating
the municipal planning strategy, the

765
01:01:43,520 --> 01:01:52,400
MPS, intent to separate use and form
zoning as paramount to all other

766
01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:57,599
languages in the MPS. The board's
watertight separation of use and form

767
01:01:54,480 --> 01:02:03,839
zoning had the effect of entirely uh
negating the MPS policy 613A.

768
01:02:01,119 --> 01:02:10,559
Number two, the board aired at law in
its interpretation of and in its failure

769
01:02:06,480 --> 01:02:17,119
to accord defense
uh to council's assessment of the

770
01:02:12,640 --> 01:02:21,440
criteria under MPS policy 613A, B, and C
and failed to respect uh to council's

771
01:02:19,599 --> 01:02:26,640
role as stewards of the town's UNESCO
World Heritage site. Number three, the

772
01:02:24,079 --> 01:02:34,079
board aired at law in its interpretation
of and application of policy 613D

773
01:02:30,160 --> 01:02:38,319
and the parts of policy 619C
regarding traffic and pedestrian safety,

774
01:02:36,319 --> 01:02:44,880
flooding and drainage and climate change
risks and by treating concerns about

775
01:02:41,040 --> 01:02:50,480
those issues as able to be cured at
future development uh permitting and

776
01:02:47,200 --> 01:02:54,880
subdivision approval stages. contrary to
the uh the applicable legislation and

777
01:02:52,559 --> 01:02:59,359
subordinate legislation. And fourth and
final, the board aired at law by

778
01:02:57,440 --> 01:03:04,160
assessing Sulttera, Inc.'s reszoning
application against applicable MPS

779
01:03:01,200 --> 01:03:09,760
criteria as though Sulttera would be
bound to uh its development proposal as

780
01:03:07,359 --> 01:03:11,200
if the proposal were an enforcable
development agreement.

781
01:03:11,183 --> 01:03:16,720
» [snorts]
>> Council was entitled to consider and

782
01:03:13,520 --> 01:03:22,880
should have been accorded
uh defenses uh in its uh consideration

783
01:03:19,760 --> 01:03:27,200
of the impacts of any uh potential
development enabled by the resoning

784
01:03:25,039 --> 01:03:32,240
particularly in circumstances when the
development proposal underwent a reputed

785
01:03:29,920 --> 01:03:36,559
bewildering set of changes while it was
before council. Those are the four

786
01:03:34,240 --> 01:03:40,480
grounds of appeal.
>> Thank you. Any other questions or

787
01:03:38,720 --> 01:03:44,240
comments?
Okay. Uh there's nothing else to do with

788
01:03:42,400 --> 01:03:50,880
that report at this time. So again,
thank you Paul and staff for preparing

789
01:03:46,160 --> 01:03:55,200
that. And uh we will move on to 10.3, a
report for tender. There is a

790
01:03:52,720 --> 01:03:58,440
recommendation there, but uh is Tyson
up? Tyson,

791
01:04:06,400 --> 01:04:14,799
» thank you worship. Uh good evening to
everyone.

792
01:04:10,319 --> 01:04:22,400
Uh this evening we have a staff report
on uh the tenor award for the Pelum

793
01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:27,839
Street road reconstruction phase 2. Uh
the recommendation in the report is that

794
01:04:25,280 --> 01:04:33,440
council award the Pelum Street road
reconstruction

795
01:04:29,839 --> 01:04:37,240
phase 2 tender to Dexter construction
for the amount of $326,800

796
01:04:37,839 --> 01:04:46,880
plus HST.
So this uh this phase two of the project

797
01:04:43,920 --> 01:04:52,960
follows on from the work that was done
late last year. So last year it was

798
01:04:49,760 --> 01:05:00,000
Pelum from King to Prince. This would be
taking it from Prince up to Hopson where

799
01:04:55,839 --> 01:05:06,640
the the work some years ago was done uh
continuing down Pelum.

800
01:05:02,640 --> 01:05:14,319
So the scope of work includes
um digging up the road and replacing 85

801
01:05:10,400 --> 01:05:20,960
lineal meters of road. Um while doing
that I'm replacing the sewer main there.

802
01:05:17,200 --> 01:05:26,240
So 74 mters of pipe and the manhole up
near Hopson Street and then some minor

803
01:05:23,680 --> 01:05:32,240
upgrades to the the storm system. So
that those two blocks will be storm

804
01:05:28,799 --> 01:05:37,440
separated for for future uh engagement
with our system.

805
01:05:34,880 --> 01:05:42,559
Uh it's included within the documents
that the work needs to be completed by

806
01:05:40,000 --> 01:05:49,599
the end of October. So it ties in well
with sort of um winter conditions. I I

807
01:05:46,160 --> 01:05:56,960
hope. Um so yeah, just just trying to
make sure we're in good shape with that.

808
01:05:53,359 --> 01:06:01,920
So the tender closed on August 21 and is
valid for about 3 months. Uh two two

809
01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:06,599
bids received.
Um and that's summarized in the table.

810
01:06:07,039 --> 01:06:16,160
Uh so both the submissions were reviewed
and they're both uh in compliance and uh

811
01:06:12,880 --> 01:06:22,559
based on the bid amount uh
recommendation is to award to Dexter.

812
01:06:19,920 --> 01:06:27,440
Um within the the finance section of the
report um the there's there are sort of

813
01:06:25,680 --> 01:06:32,240
three components within the capital
budget. So we have the straight

814
01:06:29,440 --> 01:06:39,599
reconstruction resurfacing, we have the
storm system and the sanitary system. Uh

815
01:06:36,559 --> 01:06:47,520
so combined those component components
add up to 420,000.

816
01:06:43,039 --> 01:06:56,160
There's a summary of the budget based on
the tender we received. So um the 388300

817
01:06:53,119 --> 01:07:03,039
that we're we're forecasting uh fits
nicely within that that 420. So, um, and

818
01:07:01,039 --> 01:07:08,240
the funding's combined. There's
components from the deed transfer tax

819
01:07:05,119 --> 01:07:16,319
and the gas tax that were all included
in what council approved uh, back in

820
01:07:12,559 --> 01:07:21,440
February. So, uh, that concludes the
report, but if if there are questions

821
01:07:18,160 --> 01:07:25,520
about, uh, the tender or or the work, I
can I can answer them.

822
01:07:24,079 --> 01:07:30,720
» Thank you, Tyson. Are there any
questions around the table?

823
01:07:28,559 --> 01:07:34,960
Council Babino.
>> Thank you. Through the chair. Um, can

824
01:07:32,480 --> 01:07:39,680
you tell me who we awarded the tender
to? Who did the work on the the previous

825
01:07:36,720 --> 01:07:43,280
section of this road?
>> So through the chair. It was it was the

826
01:07:41,359 --> 01:07:46,720
other bit of Atlantic snow and ice
management.

827
01:07:43,920 --> 01:07:51,440
» Okay. Perfect. Thank you.
>> Any other questions or comments?

828
01:07:49,920 --> 01:07:56,559
Hey, there's a recommendation there in
front of us. Deputy mayor. I was just

829
01:07:54,960 --> 01:07:59,760
going to move the recommendation.
>> Go ahead.

830
01:07:58,000 --> 01:08:03,039
» If no one else had any questions or they
can still ask them after there's a

831
01:08:01,200 --> 01:08:07,200
motion on the floor, but I would move
that council award the Palm Street road

832
01:08:04,960 --> 01:08:12,079
con reconstruction phase 2 tender to
Dexter Construction Limited for the

833
01:08:08,880 --> 01:08:15,839
amount of 326
326,800

834
01:08:14,000 --> 01:08:19,600
plus HST.
>> Move. Is there a seconder? Seconded by

835
01:08:17,440 --> 01:08:22,960
councelor Greek. Any further discussion
on the motion?

836
01:08:21,440 --> 01:08:26,799
All those in favor raise your right
hand.

837
01:08:24,960 --> 01:08:31,520
Motion carried unanimous. I'd just like
to say first before Tyson leaves the

838
01:08:29,040 --> 01:08:35,759
table, uh, number one, it's nice to have
a tender come under budget. That's

839
01:08:33,440 --> 01:08:40,400
happened a couple times now. But number
two, and most importantly, I want to

840
01:08:37,440 --> 01:08:45,759
thank Tyson and his crew for what their
efforts uh, starting last Wednesday

841
01:08:42,319 --> 01:08:49,359
around lunchtime. Uh, the community uh,
is grateful for everything that staff

842
01:08:47,600 --> 01:08:53,199
has done and you and your team
responding to what could have been

843
01:08:50,960 --> 01:08:57,839
disastrous. So again, I want to thank
you and pass that along to the the the

844
01:08:56,159 --> 01:09:03,600
crew down at the at the building
because, you know, Saturday around 3

845
01:09:01,279 --> 01:09:08,162
things were looking pretty pretty scary
or Wednesday around 3 and uh to

846
01:09:06,400 --> 01:09:13,440
basically have to put a a notice
[snorts] out on Saturday to say use

847
01:09:10,400 --> 01:09:17,040
water to tells you how well everything
coordinated and our staff worked. So,

848
01:09:15,600 --> 01:09:21,080
thank you very much, Tyson, to you and
your your staff. Thank you.

849
01:09:21,120 --> 01:09:29,920
Thank you your worship. Um we got to pay
a lot of credit to everyone that uh was

850
01:09:27,359 --> 01:09:36,560
involved. So that included our town
staff uh both in the field and um in

851
01:09:34,799 --> 01:09:41,679
this building and the armories where
great support um from our the engineers

852
01:09:39,679 --> 01:09:47,279
and contractors
uh local contractors as well that that

853
01:09:44,319 --> 01:09:52,960
sent trucking power and excavators
um and um and then yeah the community as

854
01:09:51,359 --> 01:09:57,920
a whole in terms of when we're in that
water conservation that was that was uh

855
01:09:56,560 --> 01:10:05,679
very important.
And then uh so the buy in there was was

856
01:10:01,440 --> 01:10:13,760
great. Um and our water resource team uh
had a new team member start last week

857
01:10:08,239 --> 01:10:20,239
and uh quite quite a baptism uh but uh
very very valuable contribution from

858
01:10:16,239 --> 01:10:24,000
from all that team as well. So um yeah
very thankful for all those

859
01:10:22,159 --> 01:10:27,920
contributions.
>> Great. Well, thank you. And and we don't

860
01:10:26,320 --> 01:10:32,800
ever want Oh, yeah. We don't ever want
to use this again, but seeing Remo in

861
01:10:30,480 --> 01:10:37,520
action was was really nice to see. They
did an incredible job. And it's nice to

862
01:10:35,360 --> 01:10:42,159
know it's there when needed. And like I
said, I hope we don't need it ever

863
01:10:39,600 --> 01:10:45,120
again, but especially anytime soon. But
again, everybody went into action and

864
01:10:43,920 --> 01:10:50,880
you never know how things are going to
work out until a real disaster happens.

865
01:10:47,600 --> 01:10:56,159
And Remo really worked well. So again,
thank you very much. and uh you know

866
01:10:53,618 --> 01:11:02,800
[snorts] thank you.
So move on to 10.4. There's a couple

867
01:10:59,199 --> 01:11:08,239
recommendations there. Uh motion report
for use of half funding for RFP awards

868
01:11:05,520 --> 01:11:12,560
totaling 55,000. Paul.
>> Yeah. Uh through you chair and thank

869
01:11:10,239 --> 01:11:16,000
you. Uh so this comes back to the May
5th committee of the whole meeting where

870
01:11:14,159 --> 01:11:21,840
our senior planner at the time Mr.
Powell brought forward the discussions

871
01:11:18,239 --> 01:11:26,560
of bringing in uh two uh consultants.
One to work on the MPS and LUB

872
01:11:24,880 --> 01:11:31,679
amendments that council would like to
move forward with and the other one was

873
01:11:28,400 --> 01:11:35,199
to focus on one of the final half um uh
housing accelerator fund programs and

874
01:11:33,440 --> 01:11:40,960
policies which was looking at town
surplus land and what could be uh used

875
01:11:37,920 --> 01:11:46,400
for potential use in housing. So the
background again just overlaid there. uh

876
01:11:43,600 --> 01:11:51,280
so provided were the two options. RFPs
were closed on July 28th. They were

877
01:11:49,199 --> 01:11:56,320
reviewed and the goal was to not exceed
so the budget of 50,000 as it came to a

878
01:11:54,080 --> 01:12:00,880
target of submissions um with the
amendments

879
01:11:57,840 --> 01:12:05,840
of what we have uh in the discussion. Uh
we had two uh proponents step up. We had

880
01:12:03,679 --> 01:12:10,719
five submissions through both. Uh the
review committee recommends FOTen uh for

881
01:12:08,400 --> 01:12:14,320
council's consideration. uh they uh and
this is for the MPS and LUB amendments.

882
01:12:12,880 --> 01:12:19,520
FOTM received the highest scoring
combination along with uh their

883
01:12:16,640 --> 01:12:24,320
compliant proposals. Uh their scope will
include a review of draft amendments for

884
01:12:22,000 --> 01:12:28,320
cohesive and conformity to the MGA and
regul and related uh regulations. Uh

885
01:12:27,040 --> 01:12:31,600
review housing delivery and
infrastructure implications including

886
01:12:30,080 --> 01:12:35,199
environmental, social and fiscal
considerations. Consider UNESCO World

887
01:12:33,600 --> 01:12:39,520
Heritage Management Frameworks along
with the MPSLUB, the Heritage

888
01:12:37,520 --> 01:12:43,840
Conservation District instruments to
identify opportunities for clearer

889
01:12:41,440 --> 01:12:48,560
coordinated coordination protections and
stewardship of Old Tale Lunberg and the

890
01:12:46,320 --> 01:12:52,719
outstanding universal value. Advise on
the development application processes,

891
01:12:50,640 --> 01:12:58,080
enforcement, heritage alignment and
potential effects on the uh UV and the

892
01:12:56,000 --> 01:13:03,760
heritage designations.
uh uh prepare consultation material for

893
01:13:01,360 --> 01:13:09,040
and to conduct with council staff at
public and other stakeholders and uh

894
01:13:06,880 --> 01:13:13,280
adjust draft amendments to bring back
forward to council on a high level.

895
01:13:11,040 --> 01:13:16,960
ities were the as part of the RFP. So
looking at parking, mobility and

896
01:13:14,560 --> 01:13:21,520
electric vehicles, development controls,
tools and public benefits, short-term

897
01:13:18,880 --> 01:13:27,040
rentals and accessory dwelling units, uh
height, built form, heritage and UNESCO,

898
01:13:24,719 --> 01:13:30,320
environmental and site development,
administrative and regulatory

899
01:13:28,400 --> 01:13:35,199
clarifications and infrastructure and
subdivision standards. Under the surplus

900
01:13:33,040 --> 01:13:41,120
uh land analysis, there were again five
submissions. Uh the uh the committee is

901
01:13:37,920 --> 01:13:46,159
recommending a Fathom Studio. Uh Fathom
received the highest combination score.

902
01:13:42,960 --> 01:13:49,280
Uh their scope to date will be view
three pre-identified town owned

903
01:13:47,920 --> 01:13:54,239
properties for possible surplus
designation and affordability affordable

904
01:13:51,760 --> 01:14:00,800
housing feasibility. Apply the land
dvestigure policy and land profile

905
01:13:56,560 --> 01:14:04,719
evaluation tool. Review the properties.
Sorry, did I Yeah, review the properties

906
01:14:02,640 --> 01:14:09,199
under the existing MPS NUB without
requiring planning document amendments.

907
01:14:06,880 --> 01:14:13,840
Consider access and services, heritage
and UNESCO importance and potential

908
01:14:10,719 --> 01:14:17,280
financial viability as well as score the
properties, provide an evaluation

909
01:14:15,360 --> 01:14:23,199
matrix, identify one property for
council's consideration, present the the

910
01:14:19,920 --> 01:14:28,880
analysis to council. Uh at this point in
time, council uh under the financial

911
01:14:25,920 --> 01:14:34,960
sections. Uh so Foten submitted the
$42,500

912
01:14:30,719 --> 01:14:40,880
uh excluding HST. HST is $5,950
producing a total of 48,450.

913
01:14:37,760 --> 01:14:46,000
So that still goes under the 50,000 RFP.
The other one is Fathom Studios

914
01:14:42,560 --> 01:14:52,159
submitted for $13,000 uh excluding HST.
HST is $1,820 producing 14,820 before

915
01:14:49,920 --> 01:14:58,800
dispersements. Uh the scoring file
records $150 dispersement producing a

916
01:14:54,560 --> 01:15:03,760
potential total of 1490 14,970. So this
was goes under the $50,000 budget

917
01:15:00,960 --> 01:15:07,120
threshold at this time. Uh because this
is coming out of the housing accelerator

918
01:15:05,280 --> 01:15:10,640
fund, we would need motions of council
to proceed as this would be an

919
01:15:08,719 --> 01:15:14,960
additional service outside of the budget
uh deliberations from council that was

920
01:15:12,560 --> 01:15:20,719
approved. So council, before you are two
recommendations uh one for Foten and one

921
01:15:17,440 --> 01:15:26,679
for Fathom Studios.
Thank you. Uh, councelor Strong,

922
01:15:26,719 --> 01:15:34,239
» a couple of questions. Um, it's
difficult for me to to look at this

923
01:15:32,000 --> 01:15:39,920
without knowing how how the scoring
works for starters and so I I can't like

924
01:15:37,920 --> 01:15:45,600
I'm just it's taking your word for it,
which I think is important. Um, but at

925
01:15:43,520 --> 01:15:51,600
the same time, if we look at the one we
just saw, we did see the companies set

926
01:15:48,880 --> 01:15:57,040
out and gave us a little bit more of an
idea of what was taken into

927
01:15:53,760 --> 01:16:02,159
consideration. Having said that, um, I
did look voting up on the internet and

928
01:15:59,760 --> 01:16:09,840
their services are mainly in Kingston,
Ontario, um, Ontario and one other pl or

929
01:16:06,800 --> 01:16:14,560
Toronto. Okay. Um, and that's fine with
me. There there was no one locally that

930
01:16:12,640 --> 01:16:19,360
could do this
>> through you chair. Those that were

931
01:16:16,719 --> 01:16:23,600
locally that were within the submissions
uh did not score to the same level as

932
01:16:21,199 --> 01:16:28,640
Foten did from their experience and and
their expertise that were on staff and

933
01:16:25,440 --> 01:16:33,360
that was that was scored by five uh four
different staff members across our our

934
01:16:30,880 --> 01:16:36,239
town staff. So all all scoring it
differently and then having them merge

935
01:16:34,560 --> 01:16:40,000
together to see who who came with the
best scores.

936
01:16:37,679 --> 01:16:45,199
» Good. Thank you very much. And then the
uh with the foten is that am I

937
01:16:42,800 --> 01:16:49,760
pronouncing it correctly? Okay. Um I am
really happy to see and I will read this

938
01:16:47,440 --> 01:16:53,199
into the record. The planning reveal
review will also consider the town's

939
01:16:51,600 --> 01:16:58,080
UNESCO World Heritage Management
Framework. The process provides an

940
01:16:55,360 --> 01:17:03,040
opportunity to examine how the MPS LUB
heritage conservation district plan and

941
01:17:00,320 --> 01:17:06,640
bylaw and related municipal policies
collectively support the production of

942
01:17:04,560 --> 01:17:10,960
Oldtown Lunberg, its outstanding
universal value and the management of

943
01:17:09,120 --> 01:17:15,440
the World Heritage Property and Buffer
Zone. I think it's finally we've we've

944
01:17:13,280 --> 01:17:19,760
put that forward over a year ago and it
it's terrific to see that that will be

945
01:17:17,600 --> 01:17:22,880
one of the considerations.
Um

946
01:17:21,360 --> 01:17:30,480
with
moving on to the second one which was a

947
01:17:27,199 --> 01:17:38,320
is you're asking us to award it to
Fathom. Fathom is a Nova Scotia company.

948
01:17:34,560 --> 01:17:43,360
Okay. And I know I uh have seen their
work especially as it has come before

949
01:17:40,640 --> 01:17:49,120
the heritage advisory committee recently
um for the uh accessibility of the

950
01:17:46,400 --> 01:17:52,800
Lunberg Opera House. So, um, pleased to
move that one if you want me to just go

951
01:17:51,120 --> 01:17:56,560
ahead and move that one and let someone
else do the vote in or do they have to

952
01:17:54,560 --> 01:18:00,080
be moved at the same time?
>> Two separate. So, if you want to move

953
01:17:58,480 --> 01:18:08,320
the second one now, you can.
>> Okay, I'll move the second one.

954
01:18:02,719 --> 01:18:14,000
» Okay. They got council awards RFP number
2026016

955
01:18:11,040 --> 01:18:20,400
surplus land analysis to Fathom Studio
in the amount of 13,000 excluding HST

956
01:18:17,360 --> 01:18:24,880
plus dispersements of up to 150 with the
total contract amount not to exceed

957
01:18:22,400 --> 01:18:27,600
15,000 inclusive of taxes and
dispersements. So that's what you're

958
01:18:26,480 --> 01:18:31,360
moving. Right. Right.
>> Is there a seconder?

959
01:18:29,440 --> 01:18:36,320
» Seconded by councelor Babau. Any further
discussion on that motion?

960
01:18:34,640 --> 01:18:41,440
» Oh, councelor Babina.
>> Actually, this is sort of directed at

961
01:18:38,159 --> 01:18:45,040
you, chair. Um, uh, correct me if I'm
wrong. Was Fathom Studio not also the

962
01:18:43,360 --> 01:18:49,199
ones who did our, uh, wayfinding
signage?

963
01:18:47,440 --> 01:18:52,320
Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. See, you know.
Yeah. Okay, perfect. That's what I

964
01:18:50,640 --> 01:18:56,400
thought, but I couldn't quite remember.
I have actually worked with them in the

965
01:18:53,679 --> 01:19:00,640
past then. They're great.
>> That's one of the other questions.

966
01:18:59,120 --> 01:19:04,480
All those in favor, raise your right
hand.

967
01:19:02,239 --> 01:19:10,159
Opposed? Motion carried. Unanimous. Now
we have one recommendation left. Anyone?

968
01:19:07,440 --> 01:19:16,159
Council Fton, do you want to make that?
>> Yes, I can.

969
01:19:12,320 --> 01:19:23,040
Uh the motion is that council or the
recommended motion is that council

970
01:19:17,600 --> 01:19:27,840
awards RFP number to 202617
planning and consultation services for

971
01:19:25,280 --> 01:19:34,000
municipal planning strategy and land use
bylaw amendments to FO10 consultants in

972
01:19:31,360 --> 01:19:39,679
the amount of $42,500
excluding HST. It's been moved second by

973
01:19:37,280 --> 01:19:46,640
councelor Dhoffany. Any question or
discussion? Deputy Mayor,

974
01:19:42,640 --> 01:19:53,199
» just want to comment that I am um very
pleased to see this um award being or

975
01:19:50,560 --> 01:19:58,640
this tendered being awarded um so that
this work can get underway. Um it's

976
01:19:55,920 --> 01:20:03,679
gives um we're we're going to be
creating many opportunities for the

977
01:20:00,800 --> 01:20:09,920
public to have input and for this to be
a um [snorts] you know a communitywide

978
01:20:06,560 --> 01:20:14,640
discussion on what we have recognized as
as difficulties within our municipal

979
01:20:12,880 --> 01:20:20,000
planning strategy and land use bylaw
framework currently. Um so I think it's

980
01:20:17,920 --> 01:20:26,880
um really great that it's going to be
happening. Um, I guess I'm just just um

981
01:20:23,360 --> 01:20:31,920
a a question of our CEO with regard to
oversight of this and the expectation

982
01:20:29,360 --> 01:20:37,760
timeline recognizing our director of
community development is on leave right

983
01:20:33,600 --> 01:20:41,840
now. So will um is there anything that
you can say about

984
01:20:40,400 --> 01:20:46,320
um getting you know getting the work
underway as soon as possible?

985
01:20:44,000 --> 01:20:49,280
» So through your chair the within the RFP
there was outlines of processes that

986
01:20:47,920 --> 01:20:55,040
they can get started with with the
research. So as soon as I mean once

987
01:20:52,640 --> 01:20:59,520
council makes a decision on this then
it'll be for myself to direct staff to

988
01:20:57,520 --> 01:21:04,239
at least get that process going do the
intro meetings but there is a research

989
01:21:02,159 --> 01:21:09,199
uh dive component that will start
knowing that our staff will return uh by

990
01:21:07,440 --> 01:21:13,440
just after Thanksgiving that we'll be
able to space it out but the goal is to

991
01:21:11,600 --> 01:21:18,159
at least start the deep research because
the goal is uh based on the the process

992
01:21:15,679 --> 01:21:22,239
was by January of 2027 to be back before
council. So they have work to do at

993
01:21:20,560 --> 01:21:26,800
least in the research aspect and they
can go back and forth with staff and as

994
01:21:24,800 --> 01:21:30,239
necessary we can relate back with Mr.
Howell like we have permission to do

995
01:21:28,239 --> 01:21:34,000
that as well because he initiated this
through council. So we'll be working

996
01:21:32,159 --> 01:21:39,120
that way.
>> Thank you.

997
01:21:35,520 --> 01:21:43,760
» Any other questions or comments?
Okay. Motion made and seconded. All

998
01:21:41,199 --> 01:21:48,560
those in favor raise your right hand.
Motion carried unanimous.

999
01:21:46,159 --> 01:21:52,840
Now we'll move on to 10.5.
I think Jamie Deans is up.

1000
01:21:58,880 --> 01:22:05,600
All right. Good evening. Um, yes. So,
the Terry Fox flag raising and

1001
01:22:04,000 --> 01:22:10,800
proclamation.
Uh the recommendation is the council

1002
01:22:07,280 --> 01:22:16,400
approve the 2000 2026 Terry Fox flag
raising and proclamation and the council

1003
01:22:13,920 --> 01:22:21,040
amend appendix A approval annual
proclamations and flag raisings of the

1004
01:22:18,239 --> 01:22:25,040
Tenno Lunberg public statements policy
include an annual Terry Fox flag raising

1005
01:22:23,199 --> 01:22:29,520
and proclamation.
So basically the background is the

1006
01:22:26,560 --> 01:22:33,120
organiz of the Lunberg Terry Fox fund
approach us. They requested that we uh

1007
01:22:31,280 --> 01:22:40,239
raise the flag and do a proclamation for
this year. uh in discussing it uh it was

1008
01:22:36,080 --> 01:22:43,120
thought that as the Terry Fox run is
well known across the country and I'm

1009
01:22:41,920 --> 01:22:47,440
not going to go into explaining what it
is but a lot of people locally

1010
01:22:44,960 --> 01:22:53,440
participate in it um that it would
probably fall into the category of uh

1011
01:22:50,560 --> 01:23:00,000
annual proclamations and flag raisings
as per appendex A of the very long uh

1012
01:22:56,639 --> 01:23:02,960
title. So uh
the the three alternatives here would be

1013
01:23:01,760 --> 01:23:07,840
approved. The recommendation is
presented. Approve the 2026 flag raising

1014
01:23:05,600 --> 01:23:13,199
a proclamation without uh adding the
event to the list of pre-approved annual

1015
01:23:10,320 --> 01:23:17,040
uh recognitions. Amend the request or
provide alternative direction or decline

1016
01:23:15,120 --> 01:23:20,960
the request.
>> Thank you. Are there any questions to

1017
01:23:18,719 --> 01:23:25,440
Jamie? Deputy mayor.
>> Just have a question with regard to flag

1018
01:23:22,960 --> 01:23:30,320
raising um and putting that in as an
annual thing. Um I don't have any

1019
01:23:27,920 --> 01:23:34,880
problem with that. I think, you know,
Terry Fox run in Lunberg is a very

1020
01:23:32,719 --> 01:23:40,880
long-standing tradition and it's nice to
give it some extra profile. Um, uh,

1021
01:23:38,080 --> 01:23:46,480
having had such a long history in the
community. Um, but is that just a flag

1022
01:23:43,760 --> 01:23:51,199
raising? I mean just the idea of having
the a ter and I assume there is a

1023
01:23:49,679 --> 01:23:57,360
purpose flag then for [clears throat]
this and then it would just be put up a

1024
01:23:54,880 --> 01:24:01,920
day before or something does not
necessarily require an event around

1025
01:24:00,320 --> 01:24:06,159
that. I guess that's what I'm looking
for clarification on

1026
01:24:04,000 --> 01:24:10,880
» through the chair. Great question. Um
yes. So essentially there's really no

1027
01:24:08,239 --> 01:24:16,880
cost to the town. Um they have provided
a flag already. uh in discussing it with

1028
01:24:14,800 --> 01:24:22,480
the organizer, they were thinking
perhaps a week out or whatever the

1029
01:24:20,000 --> 01:24:26,480
council chooses, but it would be well
ahead of the Sundays. I think it's

1030
01:24:24,400 --> 01:24:32,239
typically the third Sunday in September.
So, it would be well ahead of that. Um

1031
01:24:29,840 --> 01:24:37,040
they had requested that if we do a flag
raising and a proclamation, most of ours

1032
01:24:34,400 --> 01:24:42,080
fall into uh midday activities, early
morning, but since it's a very uh

1033
01:24:39,120 --> 01:24:45,520
volunteer um driven organization and
they'd like to get as many out as

1034
01:24:43,360 --> 01:24:51,520
possible, they did request that we do it
later in the day or a weekend. I would

1035
01:24:48,560 --> 01:24:55,360
lean probably to later in the day. Um
but yes, so it could it could actually

1036
01:24:53,199 --> 01:25:01,679
in talking to the CEO, it could actually
be something in the future where perhaps

1037
01:24:57,199 --> 01:25:06,960
the council meeting before um the uh
next Terry Fox run. So in 2027, the

1038
01:25:04,880 --> 01:25:09,920
council meeting before council could
meet possibly a little bit earlier by

1039
01:25:08,400 --> 01:25:15,760
the flag pole. We could do the event
then so that we're actually um not

1040
01:25:12,400 --> 01:25:20,480
inconveniencing uh anyone and it would
fall into the request of the

1041
01:25:17,520 --> 01:25:23,679
organization.
Thank you. Any other questions or

1042
01:25:22,320 --> 01:25:29,120
comments? There is a recommendation
there. Then we're prepared to move that

1043
01:25:26,320 --> 01:25:33,520
move by councelor Bab. Yes.
>> I'll read it out. Um is this all one

1044
01:25:31,440 --> 01:25:39,120
motion?
>> Well, thank yeah. Well, you can. So

1045
01:25:36,960 --> 01:25:43,840
» for you, council, there are two motions
there. You can either have them as one

1046
01:25:41,440 --> 01:25:49,120
or you. So, council, I guess my question
is, are you prepared to allow uh

1047
01:25:46,480 --> 01:25:52,880
appendix A to be amended uh for the
Terry Fox? And if so, then you can read

1048
01:25:50,960 --> 01:25:56,960
them as one motion. If not, then you
would read one followed by the other.

1049
01:25:54,880 --> 01:26:01,440
» Okay. Um I'm going to put them as one,
and I guess if you guys don't agree, you

1050
01:25:58,560 --> 01:26:06,000
can vote that way. Um, [laughter]
uh, so I move that council approve the

1051
01:26:03,520 --> 01:26:10,080
2026 Terry Foxrun flag raising and
proclamation and that council amend

1052
01:26:08,239 --> 01:26:15,280
appendix A, approved annual
proclamations and flag raisings of the

1053
01:26:12,480 --> 01:26:20,320
town of Lunberg public statements policy
to include an annual Terry Foxrun flag

1054
01:26:17,840 --> 01:26:24,239
raising and proclamation.
>> So moved. Is there a seconder? Second by

1055
01:26:22,719 --> 01:26:29,440
councelor Fullerton. Any further
discussion on the motion? All those in

1056
01:26:26,960 --> 01:26:35,600
favor, raise your right hand. Motion
carry unanimous. Thank you, Jamie. And

1057
01:26:32,239 --> 01:26:40,639
I'd also like to uh uh give you my uh
appreciation and thanks for the those

1058
01:26:37,840 --> 01:26:45,360
four or five days. Uh I talked to you
more than I did my wife there for about

1059
01:26:42,800 --> 01:26:50,080
4 days or so. So again, thank you very
much. Uh sometimes I was texting you

1060
01:26:48,000 --> 01:26:54,480
early early in the morning or late at
night because that's when I was getting

1061
01:26:51,440 --> 01:26:59,920
requests by different sources of media.
So you always responded quickly and uh

1062
01:26:57,520 --> 01:27:03,600
everything. So, thank you so much
>> through the chair. Appreciate it. And uh

1063
01:27:01,360 --> 01:27:05,520
it was a literally a total team effort.
So, [laughter]

1064
01:27:04,480 --> 01:27:08,800
I don't think we could have done it
without everybody. So, thank you for all

1065
01:27:07,040 --> 01:27:13,199
the assistance.
>> Thank you. So, we're on to notice of

1066
01:27:11,600 --> 01:27:20,600
motions, information request, and
council reports. So, we'll start at the

1067
01:27:16,400 --> 01:27:20,600
left tonight. Councilor Fullerton.

1068
01:27:21,760 --> 01:27:29,360
I don't really have too much to report
other than it's been all about water

1069
01:27:25,760 --> 01:27:36,480
obviously and um and you know certainly
I appreciate it um

1070
01:27:33,040 --> 01:27:43,760
the experience of seeing the team in
action and the responses and um you know

1071
01:27:40,560 --> 01:27:49,440
from from our first notification that
there was a problem to uh the community

1072
01:27:46,560 --> 01:27:55,120
response the uh the emergency management
ment response and so on. So I think it

1073
01:27:51,600 --> 01:28:02,960
was um as everybody has said it was much
appreciated that the efforts were made

1074
01:27:57,440 --> 01:28:08,000
and that uh at least for now um we're
back where we need to be to function as

1075
01:28:05,199 --> 01:28:14,080
a town. Um so I just that's that's my
two cents on that. uh two upcoming

1076
01:28:10,639 --> 01:28:20,480
events this week that are noteworthy and
um quite somber actually is uh on the

1077
01:28:17,920 --> 01:28:25,440
11th of September is the 25th
anniversary of the 9/11 tragedy in New

1078
01:28:23,679 --> 01:28:32,800
York City
and on Sunday we uh remember the people

1079
01:28:29,120 --> 01:28:38,960
who were lost to the sea at the fish
fiser memorial and I just wanted to

1080
01:28:35,600 --> 01:28:44,400
acknowledge those two occasions
Thank you, councelor Greek.

1081
01:28:42,639 --> 01:28:49,360
» Uh, nothing new to report on my end.
Just also want to pass along my uh,

1082
01:28:46,639 --> 01:28:55,600
sincere appreciation and thank you to
everyone's efforts through uh, last

1083
01:28:51,520 --> 01:29:00,000
week's water conservation and repairs.
>> Thank you, Council Babino.

1084
01:28:58,000 --> 01:29:05,280
» Nothing to report.
>> Council Strong,

1085
01:29:03,440 --> 01:29:10,400
» I'm here daydreaming, but I'm listening
to everybody. Um, yeah, I guess I tag on

1086
01:29:08,560 --> 01:29:16,239
too. I'm a little late to the party, but
thank everybody in the town of

1087
01:29:12,000 --> 01:29:20,480
Lunenburgg and in the town hall and
outside of the town hall for coming

1088
01:29:17,920 --> 01:29:24,480
together and and I want to thank all of
my colleagues sitting around this table

1089
01:29:22,000 --> 01:29:30,560
because we held it together with our
team messaging back and forth and when

1090
01:29:28,080 --> 01:29:34,480
there were little gaps identified under
the Remo part, we kind of picked up on

1091
01:29:32,719 --> 01:29:38,880
those and I never expected that I would
be directing traffic at the farmers

1092
01:29:36,719 --> 01:29:44,320
market, for example, but Those were the
things that we all did and I think uh

1093
01:29:42,080 --> 01:29:48,719
yeah it was a tremendous effort. I we
could have probably built a new building

1094
01:29:46,320 --> 01:29:54,560
with the energy that was coming out of
here this that weekend and thank you to

1095
01:29:51,360 --> 01:30:00,080
councelor Fullerton for remembering 911.
I think that's a significant day and and

1096
01:29:57,440 --> 01:30:06,159
as again yeah the service coming up on
Sunday will be an emotional one and

1097
01:30:02,719 --> 01:30:11,120
recognizing the 26 August scales and
knowing that the 27th is around the

1098
01:30:07,920 --> 01:30:17,600
corner and it's even a worse example of
of uh of disaster. Um, I'm pretty much

1099
01:30:15,360 --> 01:30:22,960
back to work with all my committee work
and uh board stuff going on around town.

1100
01:30:20,719 --> 01:30:28,400
And um
uh also a big thank you to Harborview

1101
01:30:25,360 --> 01:30:32,000
Haven. For us, not doing the laundry as
residents was uh something we had to

1102
01:30:30,639 --> 01:30:38,320
endure, but when you're doing laundry
for 125 residents, it it was a really

1103
01:30:34,880 --> 01:30:43,440
big thing. They they followed their
procedure, did everything they could.

1104
01:30:40,880 --> 01:30:49,120
Tim kept the board up to date. So, I I
really wanted to thank Harborview for

1105
01:30:45,280 --> 01:30:53,040
that. Um, I could go on all night.
Where's your hook? Anyway, uh, yeah,

1106
01:30:51,280 --> 01:30:58,000
thank you to everybody. This is a
wonderful community. You really realize

1107
01:30:54,719 --> 01:31:03,440
that when you see us all in action over
the last week,

1108
01:31:00,480 --> 01:31:08,880
» Council Dhne,
>> ditto on the water. I'm not going to go

1109
01:31:05,280 --> 01:31:17,360
all through that again. Um,
happy belated 61st anniversary to

1110
01:31:13,840 --> 01:31:23,199
Lynwood and Joan Lance. Uh, Lynwood is
in the rehab center in the city

1111
01:31:19,600 --> 01:31:28,400
improving from what I'm told. And um,
Joan has recently

1112
01:31:25,920 --> 01:31:35,520
or a few months ago moved to Hillside
Pines. And if you follow Hillside Pines,

1113
01:31:32,800 --> 01:31:41,679
you will see that Joan is never there
because she's

1114
01:31:37,679 --> 01:31:48,320
taking advantage of everything that is
being offered through there. So, she's

1115
01:31:43,840 --> 01:31:55,040
like a seven-year-old again. Um, and the
last thing is the most important thing.

1116
01:31:51,440 --> 01:32:01,520
Fall is here, the heat is gone, and I'm
getting happier.

1117
01:31:58,159 --> 01:32:07,120
Thank you, Deputy Mayor.
>> Um, I I'm I'm just going to get back to

1118
01:32:04,400 --> 01:32:11,920
to brass tax actually [laughter]
with all the wonderful accolades that

1119
01:32:08,880 --> 01:32:17,360
have been already stated. Um, I I I
ditto um copy counselor Dhne on that and

1120
01:32:15,280 --> 01:32:21,360
and the reminders of the Fiser Memorial
Service. Hope we have um a great turnout

1121
01:32:19,760 --> 01:32:29,199
for that very important event here
locally. Um, but I I do want to um ask

1122
01:32:25,280 --> 01:32:34,000
if uh council would entertain um a a
motion for council for staff direction

1123
01:32:31,840 --> 01:32:41,120
tonight um on a topic that was brought
up at our committee of the whole meeting

1124
01:32:36,239 --> 01:32:46,639
um recently with respect to um uh how
correspondence is handled um during our

1125
01:32:43,840 --> 01:32:52,480
meetings. Um and just getting a staff
report on appropriate response to um

1126
01:32:50,480 --> 01:32:57,280
correspond items of correspondent that
appear on our agenda. Um sometimes it

1127
01:32:55,040 --> 01:33:04,320
feels um a little awkward and there
isn't a an

1128
01:33:00,239 --> 01:33:10,639
yeah no necess dictated format for
reply. And so um we we we'd identified

1129
01:33:08,960 --> 01:33:16,000
that as something we'd like to improve
upon. So, um, I would just move that we

1130
01:33:13,840 --> 01:33:22,000
direct staff to provide us a report on
how we may handle that by way of policy.

1131
01:33:20,400 --> 01:33:26,320
» So, that's a notice of motion.
>> Well, actually, it can be a motion.

1132
01:33:23,760 --> 01:33:30,560
Yeah. Looking for just because it's to
direct staff and not to expend money or

1133
01:33:28,719 --> 01:33:34,880
do anything unusual.
>> So, it's a motion made, seconded by

1134
01:33:32,480 --> 01:33:40,719
councelor Strong. Any discussion on the
motion? All those in favor, raise your

1135
01:33:37,120 --> 01:33:43,440
right hand. Motion carry unanimous. Is
that everything? Deputy mayor.

1136
01:33:41,920 --> 01:33:47,120
» Yeah, thanks very much.
>> And Paul, you wanted to say

1137
01:33:45,760 --> 01:33:51,520
» uh thank you council and thank you
chair. Um yeah, I'm the jump on the

1138
01:33:49,760 --> 01:33:56,400
bandwagon here for the the water
situation. Actually, what I was want to

1139
01:33:53,520 --> 01:34:03,040
say is um during the water situation,
folks may have seen that there was an

1140
01:33:58,000 --> 01:34:08,800
acting CEO uh in process. uh just so
happened that uh we had a family medical

1141
01:34:06,480 --> 01:34:13,600
process that has been long awaited uh
and what happened on the same day or the

1142
01:34:11,199 --> 01:34:19,920
day after uh the main event. But I do
want to acknowledge Lisa Dagley uh for

1143
01:34:16,239 --> 01:34:24,239
taking on the role as acting CEO um and
her response, her able to work with the

1144
01:34:22,080 --> 01:34:29,040
team. Hearing back from her and her
communications with everybody. Seeing

1145
01:34:26,560 --> 01:34:32,639
how others stepped up to the plate and
really supported the town really just

1146
01:34:30,560 --> 01:34:36,320
goes to show and again what an amazing
team we do have here. The coordination

1147
01:34:34,560 --> 01:34:39,840
with council and staff was very much
appreciated. And then on the regional

1148
01:34:38,239 --> 01:34:44,000
level, seeing our partners really come
into action when we needed support, how

1149
01:34:42,159 --> 01:34:47,840
they helped us and what those processes
were. Couldn't be prouder to be in

1150
01:34:45,920 --> 01:34:51,520
Lunberg County as well as within this
town. So, uh, kudos to everyone, but

1151
01:34:50,320 --> 01:34:55,760
really definitely needed to be said.
Thank you, Lisa, for all your support,

1152
01:34:53,360 --> 01:34:59,600
uh, while I was off. Thank you.
>> Thank you very much. And I guess I'm

1153
01:34:58,320 --> 01:35:03,920
just going to finish off on the
bandwagon, but I would like to add like

1154
01:35:02,239 --> 01:35:07,520
uh we have basically three big
industries in town besides Harborview

1155
01:35:06,159 --> 01:35:13,600
Haven, which is one of our biggest
employers, but uh Highlininer, Stellia,

1156
01:35:10,000 --> 01:35:18,320
and Abco all uh jumped on the water
conservation guidelines and closed the

1157
01:35:16,159 --> 01:35:23,280
whole day on Friday. So for three
industries of that size to close for a

1158
01:35:20,560 --> 01:35:27,840
day is, you know, quite incredible. all
the restaurants on Labor Day weekend,

1159
01:35:26,239 --> 01:35:34,320
basically going into Labor Day weekend.
So, Thursday evening and all day Friday

1160
01:35:30,639 --> 01:35:37,920
until 6 PM shut their doors. Uh I
personally called about 12 people here

1161
01:35:36,080 --> 01:35:42,480
cuz they were overwhelmed and nobody had
any push back. They understood the

1162
01:35:39,920 --> 01:35:48,719
situation we were in. So, uh quite
honestly, I I really was overwhelmed by

1163
01:35:45,679 --> 01:35:52,960
the response we got. I did find out from
a couple of my colleagues, I was told

1164
01:35:50,239 --> 01:35:57,840
that I have the uh face for radio and
voice for the people. So, I guess I

1165
01:35:54,960 --> 01:36:02,159
learned something in the last five days.
And uh lastly, quite honestly, and I'll

1166
01:36:00,239 --> 01:36:05,360
say this, and I've said it before, but
these last five days, I've never been

1167
01:36:03,920 --> 01:36:10,760
more honored to be sitting in this
chair. So, again, thank you very much to

1168
01:36:07,760 --> 01:36:10,760
everybody.

1169
01:36:12,080 --> 01:36:18,400
So, we'll move on to uh committee of the
whole. That's just if you need items

1170
01:36:16,080 --> 01:36:22,480
added, you can text staff or email
staff. Motion action list. Same sort of

1171
01:36:21,120 --> 01:36:27,360
thing. We're going down through there
and uh slowly eliminating things. Oh,

1172
01:36:25,440 --> 01:36:32,000
Deputy Mayor,
I just wonder if we can kind of combine

1173
01:36:29,440 --> 01:36:36,320
those two um and and make a point of
perhaps reviewing our motion action list

1174
01:36:34,080 --> 01:36:39,199
and and um identifying if there's
anything else to come out of that in our

1175
01:36:37,920 --> 01:36:45,040
next committee, the whole meeting
because we kind of put it on the end of

1176
01:36:42,480 --> 01:36:49,440
our meetings.
Sorry. And and don't want it don't want

1177
01:36:47,040 --> 01:36:52,400
it to be overlooked and and uh maybe we
could give it some more attention at our

1178
01:36:50,719 --> 01:36:55,199
committee of the whole meeting. Thank
you.

1179
01:36:52,639 --> 01:37:00,320
» Great. Great idea.
>> What?

1180
01:36:57,440 --> 01:37:04,719
» Oh, what the desks? Oh, yes. So, we get
these from here.

1181
01:37:01,920 --> 01:37:10,239
» So, Wolffill was getting uh rid of these
desks council set up and uh they have a

1182
01:37:07,760 --> 01:37:14,400
municipal program that they put out and
you can if some municipal pality wants

1183
01:37:12,800 --> 01:37:19,119
some of these what they thought was
junk, I guess. Uh you can have it for

1184
01:37:17,040 --> 01:37:23,600
free. You just got to go get it. So, we
thank Wolfville and I thank the public

1185
01:37:21,040 --> 01:37:29,040
works guys for going to get this because
this is a lot more professional and it's

1186
01:37:26,000 --> 01:37:36,000
a really makes the front more room for
accessibility. So, again, uh just if

1187
01:37:32,320 --> 01:37:39,760
anyone's asking this cost us gas to go
to Kenfield or to Wolfville and back.

1188
01:37:37,760 --> 01:37:43,119
So, uh again, thank you very much to
Wolfill.

1189
01:37:41,280 --> 01:37:46,960
Uh and then there's nothing in closed
session. So a motion for adjournment

1190
01:37:45,440 --> 01:37:53,159
moved by councelor Ful and second by
councelor Strong. Uh thank you very

1191
01:37:49,280 --> 01:37:53,159
much. Meetings over.