[0:04] Good evening everyone. We'll call the
meeting to order. This meeting takes
[0:08] place in the traditional and ancestral
territory of the Migma people. We are
[0:12] all treaty people. There are no
additions or deletions to the agenda. So
[0:17] we'll move on to the approval of the
agenda. Recommendation that council
[0:21] approve the agenda for the September
8th, 2026 meeting as presented. Is there
[0:25] a mover? Moved by councelor Strong,
seconded by councelor Fullerton. All
[0:30] those in favor, raise your right hand.
Motion carried unanimous. Uh approval of
[0:35] the minutes. So 5.1 is council approved
the August 4th, 2026 regular meeting
[0:42] minutes as presented.
Moved by councelor Strong, seconded by
[0:46] councelor Babino. All those in favor,
raise your right hand. Motion carried
[0:51] unanimous. Now 5.2, 2. Uh recommendation
that council approve the August 11th,
[0:57] 2026 regular meeting minutes as
presented. Mover [snorts] Council Ferton
[1:03] seconded. Councelor Strong. All those in
favor raise your right hand.
[1:09] Motion carry unanimous. So we're moving
on to presentations. And tonight we
[1:13] actually have two presentations before
us. So, the first presentation is from
[1:19] Greg and Peter from Kentfield, uh,
Kentfield.
[1:24] So, you guys come on up. You guys can
sit here if you'd like or [panting]
[1:39] we go.
All right. So, we're uh from Kenfield
[1:43] States Limited. Uh we're looking at uh
getting some help getting some potential
[1:49] uh pump station or lift station um
placed at the bottom of uh Centennial
[1:54] Avenue. Um so a little bit who we are.
Um Ken Fields been in operation since
[2:01] 1975. Um the head office is in uh
Kentville uh Nova Scotia. Uh my father
[2:09] was born and raised in uh in Blockos um
and then uh relocated to uh to the
[2:15] valley and started the company in 1975 I
think was his first building. Um today
[2:21] we own uh manage and operate about just
over a thousand rental doors. Um and
[2:28] those rental doors are in the valley um
so shore here. So, we we got a new
[2:33] development that we'll highlight here
that's in in Blockos that's under
[2:38] underway. We've got some stuff in um in
Bridgewater. Um I think it's Victoria
[2:45] Road and and Victoria Grove and River
Grove. Um and then another development
[2:51] down a little further down in Liverpool,
Cobbs Ridge, which would be very similar
[2:55] in terms of our strategy on how to build
and and expand on a piece of property.
[3:02] Um, if you want to go to the next slide
there.
[3:11] Yeah, there we go. So, so basically what
we're asking for is the town to take um
[3:18] a look at putting a uh municipally owned
lift station in the bottom of um
[3:24] Centennial Centennial Centennial Avenue
um to not only service the uh PIDs that
[3:32] we currently have uh I think it's maybe
one PID now merged.
[3:37] » Yeah, it's been consolidated or it's in
the consolidation process. Yes. Um, but
[3:42] there's a bunch of land on the north
side of Centennial Avenue, the one that
[3:46] the lower kind of dip there that goes
up. I don't know how far it goes up, but
[3:51] there there's probably I don't know if
you have an idea of how many acres that
[3:56] is that's not owned by us.
>> I'm going to assume probably about 10
[3:59] acres on that side, you know?
>> Yeah. Um so and that areas obviously uh
[4:06] zoned high density by the town so future
development uh we're proposing um
[4:16] for the first phase two 16 unit
buildings uh and then potentially uh
[4:21] more after that. um where the lift
station uh is is going currently uh
[4:28] would pick up that uh additional acreage
on uh on Centennial.
[4:34] Um
if you want to maybe just go
[4:40] there
[4:45] just again that just touches on who we
are. Um, we own and operate our own
[4:50] buildings in terms of we don't outsource
the management. So, we're very heavily
[4:54] involved um in making sure the
properties are very well maintained.
[5:00] There we go. That's a little better
picture. So, these are the uh areas of
[5:04] the um of the property that we've
purchased on Centennial.
[5:10] And at the top of that, I think you can
go down to the next slide. So, that's
[5:13] our property that we've purchased. Uh I
think one down. I think there's another
[5:19] slide. Is it just showing the additional
land? There we go.
[5:24] [clears throat]
The top piece to um this lift station
[5:28] would potentially service that uh
undeveloped land right now for future
[5:34] for future for future use.
[5:40] Yeah, if you want to go back up two
slides. There we go.
[5:44] So yeah, this is a schematic that um
Peter's done up for the uh two 16 uh
[5:51] unit buildings and then the lower part
there um indicates two 8-unit buildings
[5:59] uh on the lower uh portion of the
Centennial there.
[6:06] So our proposal is um a townowned and
operated lift station. Um we do kind of
[6:14] spill out a few reasons why we think
it's beneficial for the town um to um
[6:22] keep the ownership of that um just with
the future future development um and the
[6:27] sizing of it. And Peter can maybe get a
little more detail on kind of the the
[6:32] size and then the what's needed to keep
those laterals or force mains cleared.
[6:40] Um
[6:43] yeah, maybe Pierre could talk a little
bit about just kind of infrastructure
[6:47] that he he feels that's needed and then
uh what the potential is for, you know,
[6:52] a larger lift.
>> Yeah. So, if you just want to scroll up
[6:57] um I think one or two slides there.
Okay. Not sure. Um there's a cost
[7:04] breakdown on one of those uh schematics
there. Um that just shows kind of
[7:09] [snorts] an estimate on scale of what
we're assuming this would cost. So it's
[7:13] based off similar projects of similar
scale. Um right there just sorry I don't
[7:18] know if you can read that one or not.
Scroll then. Um, so we're looking for
[7:22] the actual lift station itself, um, uh,
valve chamber, and then I think it's
[7:27] about 75 m of force man to connect to
the existing, uh, gravity sanitary line
[7:33] that's on the top of Centennial A there.
Um, and if you can make that figure out,
[7:38] I believe it's it will probably be
around the $600,000
[7:43] uh, on the upper end uh, estimate to get
that infrastructure in.
[7:48] Um at this scale it's for what we're
proposing it's a relatively small lift
[7:54] station. Um and then even if these other
areas do get developed it will not be a
[8:00] large uh lift station uh
>> in the area. Um so overall it won't be a
[8:06] won't be a large municipal lift station.
some of the other, you know, um,
[8:13] thoughts and reasons that, uh, were
coming forth for council, um,
[8:19] is the fact that you guys have some
access for infrastructure costs that we
[8:23] don't have access, um, to
um,
[8:29] the other um, I guess the point that
Pier made um, you know, we could put a a
[8:35] smaller lift station in, but while the
infrastructure is going in now, it makes
[8:38] sense to kind of, I guess, plan for the
future. The town, I think, already has
[8:42] an amount, my research, has already I
think eight or nine lift stations that
[8:48] are owned and operated um by the town.
Um, and we feel like the increased
[8:56] property taxes and the uh sewer levy,
I'm not sure what you call it. Um, I
[9:02] think far surpasses kind of what the uh
ongoing costs uh and maintenance for the
[9:08] uh for such a lift station um that would
be municipally owned.
[9:19] » Okay. Uh, do you have anything else you
want to
[9:21] » Uh, no. I think that's kind of like it's
pretty straightforward. I'm I'm sure I'm
[9:25] missing some stuff. I didn't actually
come prepared to actually present the
[9:28] whole presentation. So, if you guys have
read it and have specific, you know,
[9:32] questions, I'm more than happy to to
answer those.
[9:35] » Thank you. So, does anyone around the
table have any questions? Councelor
[9:38] Strong.
>> Um, right now I just have one question.
[9:41] If based through the chair, um,
>> I'm sure you've been around the town of
[9:47] Lunberg. Is there a comparable pump
house that you've seen in the town for
[9:51] me to put into my head?
>> Yeah, I I'm not familiar actually with
[9:54] kind of the infrastructure and I don't
think by looking at it I we could
[9:57] actually tell. It's probably more the
the the inner workings of of the pump
[10:01] station. Um
yeah, exactly.
[10:07] » Any other questions?
>> Councelor Babino.
[10:12] » Thank you. So, uh, just to just to
clarify, what you guys are looking for
[10:17] right now is for us to proceed with
doing our own investigation as to cost.
[10:21] » That's correct. Yes. So, kind of that's
our kind of our figure that we came up
[10:25] with. Um, but in terms of like how if
you own the the asset, how you'd want to
[10:31] size it and and oversize it a little bit
in terms of having the ability to catch
[10:36] all the extra land there that's couldn't
be developed. And I think that, you
[10:41] know, looking at your uh zoning map,
that is kind of kind of that area where
[10:46] you're, you know, focused on like the
the high density kind of work. Um that
[10:52] land that kind of goes up and behind
there. So that would be one of the ways
[10:56] to to to catch that and make that
feasible.
[10:59] » Perfect. Thank you.
>> Yeah, no problem.
[11:02] » Any other questions? Councelor
Fullerton. Um, just curious and and I
[11:07] know you don't know this exactly, but
what kind of timeline are you hopeful to
[11:11] have this done? Yeah.
>> And ready so that it ties in with the
[11:16] construction of your units?
>> Yeah. So, essentially, we can't uh go
[11:20] forward with anything until kind of we
figure the the the pump lift station
[11:25] out. Um, but we're prepared to go as as
soon as possible. Like if you know if we
[11:30] got word next week that
that the town was going to invest in
[11:35] that lift station, we would probably be
breaking ground within the first 6
[11:39] months. Yeah. Very quickly. We like
we're um we're constantly kind of
[11:46] building and feel that this is a really
good opportunity uh to develop in in the
[11:53] town. So as soon as all your processes
are in place, you would be prepared to
[11:58] start construction.
>> Uh yeah. So it wouldn't be a start
[12:01] thing. We'd like to get started right
away. And if and if the uh existing
[12:06] infrastructure was was in place, we
would have probably broken ground by
[12:09] now.
>> Yeah.
[12:11] » Thank you.
>> Yeah, no problem.
[12:13] » Any other deputy mayor?
>> Um I I just want to say that this is
[12:18] very exciting.
>> Thanks. Um we've there's a lot of
[12:21] chatter around the community and in the
community about the need for housing and
[12:26] um
>> this project looks um you know like it
[12:30] has a lot to offer to the town. So
that's very exciting.
[12:33] » Um there there's some information in the
report that you know it certainly would
[12:38] need um um verification of from our own
town staff with the costs and that sort
[12:45] of thing. So we will be looking at that.
I know um you know your report didn't
[12:50] seem to um take into the account that
that our sewer rates are are designed to
[12:55] cover the sewer costs and tax rates are
separate and cover so many of the other
[13:00] municipal services that we supply. So
just just things like that but um very
[13:05] very um exciting prospect for the
community. So, um,
[13:10] » yeah, I think we've tried to spell out
kind of the potential, um, tax benefit
[13:16] for the for the town. Um, and then plus
the ongoing yearly per door, uh, levy
[13:24] for sewer. Um, we're I think we're well
within that um, cost frame for sure. Um
[13:32] yeah, and my my father who was brought
up in blockos wanted to be here tonight,
[13:36] but he had surgery last Friday night
with on his kidneys. So, he's home
[13:39] recovering, but um he's been very
excited to find an opportunity to to
[13:43] build here. He's it's kind of near and
dear to his heart. Um yeah,
[13:49] » just want to say and it was very much
appreciated the um examples you provided
[13:54] and um you know block house being close
by certainly uh to go out.
[13:58] » Say that you could definitely go take a
drive by that we've got I think a
[14:03] building under construction right now
but um all of those other buildings are
[14:07] pretty much full right now. So
>> um yeah, it it's good.
[14:11] » Could tell from the activity at the
site.
[14:13] » Yeah, it's good. It was actually my um
that land was actually my grandparents.
[14:18] So they uh my father was brought up on
the the farm was right on the very top
[14:22] of block house and uh when they retired
they moved just down the street across
[14:26] from the Irving there. Um so that was my
grandparents
[14:31] land. Yeah. It's been in the family for
quite some time. Yeah.
[14:34] » I think if you scroll down to the bottom
of the presentation there are some
[14:37] example uh buildings. If anyone doesn't
know what what Kentfield,
[14:42] » a Cobb fridge, that would be Oops. Yeah,
that would be uh one of the eight unit
[14:47] buildings that uh we're proposing.
And there's uh kind of a picture of the
[14:54] a 16 unit. This one is not great just
because it doesn't have any kind of
[14:57] green in the in the front of it, but um
just the one we had there, a newer one
[15:01] that was I think that's cops.
>> Yeah, it's a cops in in Liverpool.
[15:09] and you guys would have access to kind
of like property online to kind of see
[15:12] the values of those and kind of see what
potential revenue that um they'll
[15:18] generate for the town. And you know I we
are aware that you know we we do have a
[15:24] a housing shortage and you know by some
of your numbers and some of the research
[15:29] I did you know have a mandate of some
rental units that you would like to have
[15:34] in in the community. So yeah, hopefully
we can help
[15:38] fill that. Yeah.
>> So through the chair and and to your CO,
[15:43] is it appropriate then to make a motion
for a staff report at this time?
[15:49] » So I'd be willing to to start make a
motion that um that council requests a
[15:55] staff report um heavily weighted on
public works and finance in response to
[15:59] the request of the presentation from um
Kent Field this evening. Um and
[16:05] ultimately on the ask that the town
provide a municipal sanitary sewer lift
[16:09] station to support the project.
>> Perfect. Yeah.
[16:12] » Is there a secondary? Seconded by
councelor Strong. Any further
[16:16] discussion? Councelor Ding.
>> I just have one question. It's a really
[16:22] simple question, but I was asked to ask
it tonight.
[16:25] » Uh lot six on page, it's 18 in mine.
Um, your proposed building comes right
[16:35] up almost
to the their backyard. There's going to
[16:42] there'll still be a tree line.
>> I'm Can you just point that one out
[16:46] where where you're referring to? Like
I'm not sure which which lot's which
[16:50] » to be honest. I can't see the screen. My
eyes are looking my glasses. So,
[16:55] » okay. It's right in here.
>> Yeah.
[16:59] » Yeah. That's
>> Yeah. So, right now the
[17:04] » Okay. Um, so yeah, the building is set
off quite a ways. Right now, it's the uh
[17:09] the parking that currently extends um
within I think it's 10 ft of the
[17:15] property and then that could be left
that buffer zone there. It could be left
[17:18] treated or greened. Yeah.
>> Yeah.
[17:22] » Are there any other questions? just just
a highlight the the actual the power
[17:26] line goes up in between our lot and and
those homes there. So the there is a
[17:32] natural buffer kind of right now and we
have done a little bit of clearing just
[17:35] to kind of see you know placement and
stuff with with buildings. Um and we've
[17:40] we've left that barrier there where the
where the the power line is. Some of
[17:46] them will have to be replaced but um
yeah that's that was left.
[17:51] Any other questions or comments? Just
like to say if you want to see it to my
[17:56] colleagues because I've went out a
couple times and uh I actually took some
[17:59] pictures there sent to you guys about a
month ago when I met with Greg and
[18:04] Terry. So uh you know I just wanted to
see what it looked like. So I went out
[18:07] myself and it's it's right across the
street basically from the Irving
[18:11] » really from that Irving
>> and block house.
[18:12] » Yeah. Block house. And you'll see what
they look like. So you know take a take
[18:17] a run out.
>> I drove by last weekend.
[18:19] » Yeah. And then again, we've got some
examples if you're over in the valley or
[18:22] down in Liverpool. So, um,
[clears throat] yeah, I think we we take
[18:26] pride in kind of what we build and how
we maintain it. Um, we're definitely not
[18:31] absentee.
That's
[18:33] » excellent. So, motion on the floor. All
those in favor, raise your right hand.
[18:39] Motion carry unanimous. Thank you guys
very much. I guess you're off to a
[18:43] hockey. Yeah. Try it out. Good luck to
your daughter. Appreciate it, Council.
[18:48] Thank you.
[19:04] So, next on the agenda is uh 6.2
presentation from Abgo, Greg Hustelmer.
[19:09] Before we start, I'm going to leave the
chair. Councelor Babono has declared a
[19:14] conflict and councelor Dhoff has
declared a conflict. So, uh, we're we're
[19:18] all leaving the table. Deputy mayor, you
go.
[19:38] » So, welcome Greg and uh the floor is
yours.
[19:42] » But here. Okay, perfect.
So, I had your worship here, but good
[19:47] evening council and members of the
public. My name is Greg Huskelson. I'm
[19:51] one of the owners of Abco Industries.
I'm here today to discuss a proposal for
[19:55] Abco's water lot purchase and major
shipyard enhancement project. Thank you
[20:00] for allowing me to speak today.
Um, yeah, there we go. A Canadian
[20:06] strategy underpinned by historical
working waterfront. Canada is
[20:10] experiencing a geopolitical shift in its
global allies and our country's
[20:14] importance in the world is rising as a
stable voice. As the Arctic seaways open
[20:19] up, marine manufacturing and port
infrastructure are becoming
[20:22] missionritical strategic assets for our
national security. At Abco, we believe
[20:28] Lunenburgg Harbor and Abco Industry
Shipyard are well positioned to deliver
[20:32] for Canada and become a worldclass
technical marine manufacturing and
[20:36] sustainment center. Next slide. Go. So,
just a little bit of history on the on
[20:41] the on the Abco working waterfront. AB
the Abco site has always been an
[20:46] integral part of Lunenberg's working
waterfront. The image on the on the left
[20:51] shows a view of the tanard from 1936.
Since the 1870s, the island and
[20:56] shoreline were equipped with fish shacks
and fish flakes used to store and dry
[21:01] fish for the commercial fishery. On on
the right is an image titled Whaleboats
[21:06] being converted into gunboats, courtesy
of the Norwegian Naval Museum. This
[21:10] shows the beginning of Camp Norway,
which was built to house, train, arm,
[21:14] and defend Norwegian Whalers displaced
during World War II after Germany's
[21:19] occupation of Norway. Norway needed help
defending their homeland from evil, and
[21:23] Abco answered the call. Next slide,
please. Um, so on on on this slide on
[21:30] the left is an image from 1941 showing
the new newly built Camp Norway that
[21:35] housed these sailors. The fish shacks
can still be seen on the shorelines. And
[21:40] in 1947, the built the buildings were
converted into offices and manufacturing
[21:46] space by their new owners, Atlantic
Bridge Company, which got its start
[21:50] building and refurbishing make and break
engines for the fishing industry. The
[21:55] image on the right shows the Abco site
in 1960, soon after the first steel
[22:00] manufacturing buildings were built. Also
in 1960, Abco built our first fiberglass
[22:06] boats, a contrast to the welded aluminum
boats built at Abco today. The evolution
[22:12] that you can see across these images
shows that a working waterfront can have
[22:15] many definitions, but it is also
something that adapts to the changing
[22:20] needs of the times. Next slide, please.
Perfect. So now focusing on the future,
[22:26] ABCO's plan is to expand, build, and
deliver. ABCO is in is investing in our
[22:33] shipyard to meet the strategic
infrastructure needs for Canada's
[22:36] military and security forces for vessels
up to 160 ft in length. We have a
[22:42] multi-year plan to invest in expanding
our slipway, invest in a new travel lift
[22:48] or a travel lift. Um, we invest in
expanding our manufacturing footprint,
[22:52] adding automation equipment. We're
looking to grow our headcount to over
[22:57] 120 people, which would be more than
double what we have today. Um, and then
[23:01] we would also be looking to exp uh to
invest in skills employee skills
[23:05] training just because the work we do is
so specialized. Uh we believe that the
[23:09] benefits to Lunberg are revitalizing and
preserving the historic working
[23:14] waterfront, attracting talented working
age families, yearround full-time,
[23:19] highly skilled employment, increasing
the strategic value of Nova Scotia to
[23:24] Canadian security,
further investments and employment in
[23:28] Lunberg and economic benefits and
synergies with local businesses. So,
[23:33] just to just to touch on the pictures
there of on the right, the top image on
[23:37] the right shows what we mean by
expanding our slipway. So, we're looking
[23:41] at we're looking at having two warves
extend out into the harbor to access
[23:45] deeper water
um in the to launch and recover larger
[23:49] vessels. The middle image um shows the
tra how the travel lift would travel
[23:54] along the warves. Um, it's a it's a
large piece of infrastructure, but the
[23:58] the the beauty behind it is that it's
it's a mobile piece of infrastructure,
[24:02] so it wouldn't be blocking any views for
any extended period of time. Um, which
[24:07] is one of the reasons we're going with
this kind of of system. And then
[24:10] finally, the boat would be lifted onto
the travel lift and uh driven along the
[24:15] along the the the peers um onto the
shore and into the into the
[24:19] manufacturing building.
Next slide, please.
[24:23] So [clears throat] AB ABco believes it
is important to build in partnership
[24:26] with the town of Lunenburgg. In order to
deliver on this enhanced capability,
[24:31] Abco must acquire the red noted water
lot in the in the picture on the right
[24:35] there. Um acquiring and using water lots
has been common practice in Lunenburgg
[24:43] with water lots being granted as
recently as 2024.
[24:47] water lots allow the owner to best
protect the shoreline from climate
[24:51] change related impacts. Um, just as a
note, planned infrastructure. We're
[24:56] we're looking to to we're looking at
lowprofile and mobile infrastructure so
[25:01] that we can respect and preserve the
view of the town. Um, and just to be
[25:06] very clear, I want to put this very
clear, has no plans to infill and we
[25:11] will continue working with surrounding
businesses to ensure adequate harbor
[25:14] navigation.
Next slide, please.
[25:20] So, this is um this is our our request
to council. We have two of them down
[25:25] there, but I'll just go through this.
Request to council. Time is of the
[25:28] essence for Abco and Lunenberg to
capitalize on funding opportunities and
[25:32] historic federal investments in defense
procurement.
[25:36] We definitely don't want the opportunity
to pass us by. Purchasing a water lot in
[25:40] Lunberg Harbor is a Transport Canada
process as they are the owners of the
[25:44] public harbor. but they would feel much
more comfortable proceeding to a sale
[25:48] with council's support of the purchase.
Abco has engaged with marine engineers
[25:53] and shipyard designers and they require
extensive harbor harbor surveys to
[25:57] complete detailed designs for pre for
pricing and to to present to you. Um
[26:02] these surveys require Transport Canada
approval and coordination which which
[26:06] which is where the town comes in because
they don't they would they need really
[26:10] the support from the town before they
want to proceed any further. So, Abco
[26:15] requests uh the town of Lunberg hold a
public engagement session around the
[26:19] acquisition of a waterlock and
subsequently for the town to provide a
[26:23] letter of support for evidence of said
public engagement and confirming support
[26:28] for the acquisition and just as a oh no,
I actually have two more things. So,
[26:31] ABCO will help facilitate any meetings
or information council requires
[26:36] Transport Canada to help make your final
decision. And then before I conclude, I
[26:41] just wanted to um to read an email I
received from the Lunberg Waterfront
[26:45] Association. So they they they couldn't
be here. No one no one could be here
[26:49] tonight um from there, but but I do have
a I do have something I could read
[26:55] just on their feelings of the project.
So I was talking to chair Jim Moer and
[27:02] responding to my email he wrote the
Lunberg the LWAI Lunberg Waterfront
[27:06] Association board discussed your intent
as described in your email. So this
[27:10] project that I'm describing to you your
plans align with the LWAI mandate of
[27:14] marine development and building a
working waterfront. It is not the
[27:18] position of the LWAI to endorse projects
and we do not a as we do not have the
[27:23] expertise to evaluate the many variables
that impact such a project. So fair
[27:28] enough. Um the mandate of the LWAI is
primarily to act as an advocacy group to
[27:34] provide stakeholder opinion to the to
the provincial government who own
[27:39] significant properties on the
waterfront. We can confirm that your
[27:43] proposed development appears to fit
within our within our desire to see a
[27:48] revitalized working waterfront and
assuming your plan meets all legal and
[27:52] regulatory requirements, it appears
aligned with the LWAI goals. So I uh I
[27:58] will stop there and um I welcome any
questions you have. Thank you for
[28:02] listening.
>> Thanks very much for the presentation.
[28:05] » Thank you.
um again, you know, more exciting
[28:09] opportunities for the town. So, it's
nice to hear. Um so, are there any
[28:14] questions of members of council, Mr.
Husklson, regarding the presentation?
[28:23] » And anything we don't discuss here, I'd
be happy to to follow up with. And
[28:26] anything I can't answer, I'll definitely
follow up with. So, this is a
[28:30] conversation I want to start here about
this project.
[28:34] a conversation to be had.
>> First question is a question that comes
[28:38] up on the the second bullet of the
request to council and that is that um
[28:44] uh the transport Canada would feel more
comfortable proceeding to a sale with
[28:49] the town of Lun town council support.
>> Correct.
[28:52] » And why would they be looking for that
support?
[28:57] » I think they just want to make sure they
hear from stakeholders. I I don't want
[28:59] to speak for them at all, but I I
believe it's so that they can just make
[29:02] sure that they speak to all
stakeholders. They don't they and we
[29:05] don't want to do something that the
town, you know, isn't isn't in support
[29:09] of.
>> That's fine. That's that's how I roll,
[29:13] too. Yep.
>> Um now, if I can find those notes,
[29:17] unless anybody else wants to go first.
>> Yeah. Council F.
[29:23] » No, go ahead.
[29:32] Just just to build on councelor Stron's
question um with Transport Canada. Um
[29:38] Greg, can you explain to us what other
regulatory agencies might be involved in
[29:43] purchasing a water lot?
[29:47] » In the purchase itself, I believe it
would just be Transport Canada. They may
[29:52] have other requirements that they want
us to meet. Um, and I I do not know the
[29:58] exact process of it, but I believe their
their real property disposal. If they
[30:03] were to to um decide that this was part
something to be uh what is it called? Um
[30:10] surplus land that they would dispose of,
they would then, I believe, go through
[30:14] the different levels of government to to
to get get feedback and I think even to
[30:19] to to to see if they had any plans for
for that area. So I I hope that answers
[30:25] your question, but
>> well, more or less. So regardless of
[30:29] other agencies or levels of government
that might be involved, they're the ones
[30:32] that manage that process.
>> Yes.
[30:34] » Okay.
[30:40] » Go ahead.
[30:43] » Uh through the chair, uh first of all,
thank you very much for coming in this
[30:46] evening, Greg, and uh providing this
presentation. Um I'm not sure if you're
[30:51] necessarily able to answer the this
question at this stage as it's early in
[30:55] the process, but do you have a rough
idea an estimate length of how far uh
[31:00] you know this potential slipway would
extend into the harbor?
[31:05] » It really depends on what the survey
tells us for what the bottom looks like.
[31:09] Um a lot of this so just to speak for
the for the um designers that we've
[31:14] we've talked to. So we we are engaging
with one right now. um they if if say
[31:19] there's bedrock that completely changes
it. So what we're looking to do is you
[31:24] know putting the two warves out we are
going to need some depth there. So that
[31:28] might require some dredging but if
there's all bedrock there that would be
[31:31] very difficult to dredge. So it might
make it so we can't even do that. So I I
[31:36] I guess
um maybe you could remind me of the
[31:39] question. I'm [laughter] sorry I went
off topic there.
[31:42] » Just an estimated length potentially.
>> Oh yeah. So, I I I don't it I don't have
[31:46] an estimated length. Somewhere within
the the red block, but it would it would
[31:50] likely extend it would likely extend
past the warf we have now or utilize
[31:56] that wararf and maybe extend it um
within those bounds. So, no, I don't
[32:00] have but I can I can look up and see if
I can pin down a length of it.
[32:05] » Okay. Thank you very much.
>> Yeah, thank you.
[32:07] » This sort of tags onto that one and I
should have thanked you for the
[32:10] presentation. I'm sorry.
>> Yeah. No, not at all. Um uh cuz I'm
[32:14] looking at the the outline in red. Um
and I'm just curious like we're talking
[32:19] about
um the slipway going out.
[32:24] » Does it have to use up the entire water
lot that's described by the red?
[32:29] » Not necessarily. Um
>> it looks a little close to the shipyard,
[32:35] I guess, is what I'm seeing.
[clears throat] I don't know how that
[32:37] boat that's parked at the shipyard would
get in there with [sighs]
[32:41] it would have to have permission from
you.
[32:43] » And I think I think we're certainly open
um to to deciding on what the actual
[32:49] bounds need to look like and I'm very
open. I mean that they still need to do
[32:52] business and they need to get boats in
and out of there. Um so I think I think
[32:56] the answer is we're we're we're willing
to work with with stakeholders to to to
[33:01] make it make sense. As you can kind of
see, it follows the the little I guess
[33:05] you call it a dog leg of the of the warf
we have now, just where it goes parallel
[33:09] with the warf and then parallel with the
with the angled section. And that was
[33:13] just that's just we and we don't know
exactly how much room we're going to
[33:16] need, but that was just kind of our best
guess at how much room we'd need to
[33:20] utilize our existing boat launch that's
there on the other side. So, we just
[33:23] wanted to make sure we had room. They
they they're definitely expanding down
[33:27] there. So I think just making it clear
you know where the lines are and your
[33:31] stuff our stuff and then we can work
together. But yes
[33:35] » and and you mentioned the 2023
>> the the last water law 2024 I believe I
[33:43] saw during my little research.
>> You know how many have been in the last
[33:46] 10 years or that's the difficult
question. I could get asked that if if
[33:50] we end up going to a staff report.
>> How many?
[33:54] Um anyway, um
uh yeah, I'd be curious to know how many
[34:00] leases there are actually out there
right now.
[34:02] » What what I saw, if I may, if um what I
saw was I believe one was granted to the
[34:07] foundry or at least applied for in 2016
over beside us. They plant one in the
[34:13] early 2000s, 200 maybe even 2009. Um,
there was one uh granted for Highlininer
[34:20] for their water lot and Build Nova
Scotia over the last since 2016. I can't
[34:26] tell you exactly when it started, but
I'd say Build Nova Scotia has acquired
[34:30] three large water lots on the other
side.
[34:34] » Probably right. Um,
>> just but I'll get some better
[34:39] information on that.
>> So, [clears throat] what what do you
[34:40] need from us here tonight?
Well, and I'm new to this process, so I
[34:44] don't exactly know what the [laughter]
That's perfect. No, I mean, ult
[34:48] ultimately what we want is a letter of
approval should you decide that you
[34:52] approve or a letter of support, sorry,
should you decide that you support it
[34:56] tonight, but obviously we we want to
know maybe maybe hear feedback from you
[35:00] what the next step should be, whether it
should be a formal um uh public
[35:05] engagement session, when what what are
the steps we need to take to to get to
[35:09] that decision? So, I don't know what
what I need
[35:12] » through the chair,
I guess, through the chair to staff. Um,
[35:17] this sounds like something that we'd
actually need a staff report on first
[35:20] before we'd start into the public
process. And so, I would suggest
[35:27] that we do the same thing that we just
did with the last presentation. And I
[35:32] don't know how to form that into a
motion other than to say to direct staff
[35:37] to provide um
um
[35:43] a staff report on and I guess the things
that we really need need to know are um
[35:49] what what are leases actually exist uh
because I don't have a p I'd like to see
[35:54] the graphics of all the leases in the in
the water and see where they were
[35:58] working with each other I guess and um
uh
[36:05] yeah and that that question from
councelor Fullerton was the other
[36:09] governmental departments involved I
think would be in acquiring a waterfront
[36:13] lease would be good for the public to
know if they're going to weigh in on
[36:16] this and what what rights the town would
have or does it have any um over
[36:24] planning and use of the water lot if it
exchanges hands
[36:32] Sir,
>> is that that is that all I need to
[36:38] just So, so is that sort of um is are we
creating a motion in process? So, okay.
[36:46] Um
so being moved by councelor strong that
[36:50] we get a staff report and we are
collaborating on the content of that
[36:56] staff report. Um councelor fich
>> I'll second.
[37:01] » Okay.
Sorry. Moved and seconded.
[37:06] Any further additions?
>> Mr. Husson. What is your timeline for
[37:11] when because you noted within your
presentation you wanted to apply for
[37:15] grants and with what's going on with
national defense and what's coming up.
[37:18] What what is your anticipated timeline
for your applications as well as what is
[37:22] your anticipated timeline for when you
would hope to you know engage in further
[37:27] into the the purchase process?
>> Um I don't have hard timelines or I mean
[37:33] I I think you immediately is uh is is is
as soon as humanly possible. Yes. Um I
[37:40] think there is um some time. I think
there's a few weeks that the that the
[37:45] designer is going to need to book in the
barge to do the proper um the proper
[37:50] analysis of the bottom. Um
yeah, I mean to get started. So that so
[37:55] just just to tell you what we've so we
what we've received back is kind of we
[37:59] we tal reached out to three people and
or three different companies and they
[38:02] all came kind of came back with a
two-phaseed um approach. one being a um
[38:07] a phase one uh conceptual rough order
magnitude budgetary number and then the
[38:13] second would be a more detailed design
of um of all that but yeah so so to get
[38:20] to to get to a hard timeline I'd be it'd
be very difficult but once we can once
[38:24] we can get the survey started once we
know the location in the harbor where
[38:29] we're actually going to be able to
survey based on the water lot it's it's
[38:32] a little bit of a circular thing here
but Um, so yeah, [laughter] I I was I
[38:38] mean I wouldn't start
breaking ground in 6 months I think.
[38:43] » Okay, that was where I was going to ask.
Would be looking at spring spring summer
[38:46] of 2027 is what you're anticipated at
this point.
[38:49] » I I think that we can put that down.
Yeah. I
[38:52] » Is there anything to prevent the survey
going ahead? Yeah. So you can do your
[38:56] survey. I think
nobody's going to stand out there and
[39:01] protest. No, the the only the only so we
had talked to Transport Canada had their
[39:07] process of we want surveys done and
we're going to do all that in in house
[39:11] transport Canada talking. Um we had
asked them if we if we could expedite
[39:14] that at all by ourselves and they had
said no. And so really we do need
[39:18] something from the town even if it's
just a all right they've come to us and
[39:22] and and explained what they want to do
but we need something from the town that
[39:27] shows that to allow transport Canada to
move forward with allowing surveys of
[39:32] that magnitude.
>> Is is a time frame too ownorous for
[39:37] staff to do such a report?
uh through you chair we'd be looking at
[39:42] probably within the month of October of
having a report forward. Um if there's
[39:48] no uh through you chair I mean you're
not you wouldn't be approving for a
[39:53] survey to go through what you would be
doing is allowing them to continue to do
[39:57] work to gather information. You're not
providing a letter of support. What you
[40:01] could even say is if you wanted to have
a motion for the allowance of that with
[40:05] report coming back explaining further
before a letter of support comes
[40:08] forward. right now, council, you don't
have enough information.
[40:13] It would be my recommendation
>> for the public to be able to weigh in.
[40:16] So, that's my concern.
[40:24] » Yeah.
>> So, councelor Fitin, you had more
[40:27] questions, comments do. Yes. Um just um
clarification and since that that slide
[40:34] is up on the screen for us and for
people who are here or watching, are you
[40:40] talking about extending the wararf that
you have now or building a second warf?
[40:47] » There will definitely
>> for the travel lift,
[40:49] » there will need to be a second war for
two two wars regardless just so that the
[40:53] travel lift has has room to travel. Um
if we can utilize our existing warf, we
[40:58] will. Um, it's just a matter of of the
the designer seeing if it's if it can
[41:03] handle what we want to do with it and uh
and going from there. So,
[41:08] » part of that has to do with the results
from the survey of the seabed.
[41:11] » Yeah. Okay. And I mean, I'm familiar
with how the travel lift works. So, as
[41:15] long as you have the depth at the end of
the travel lift,
[41:18] » then as the vessel enters into the
slipway, it gets lifted immediately and
[41:23] then is above. Oh, the depth next to
shoreline doesn't matter as much as it
[41:29] does at the end of the slipway.
>> Absolutely right. No,
[41:32] » just from a design point of actually
putting the piles in to make the wararf
[41:36] to get out there, that's what they need
to know. But you're absolutely right.
[41:39] That's the that's that's the way we're
going to use this.
[41:41] » Okay. Okay.
>> Which one? The
[41:45] » stay there.
>> The warves. The wolves. Yes. So, the
[41:48] idea would be that they'd be low as
possible. Um
[41:52] » Yes. Absolutely.
>> No. No. Absolutely.
[41:57] » Thank you.
>> Thank you.
[42:01] » Okay. Because there was another
Okay. There was another thing and that
[42:04] was uh obviously a hot topic in
Lunenburgg is the uh power
[42:10] » power.
>> So, you want me to make the motion?
[42:14] » Um there's somebody that's not with
broken foot. I think I think we have um
[42:21] the semblance of or the [clears throat]
first part of a motion and I'll look to
[42:25] RCA out to repeat
[42:34] too many microphones. [laughter]
I just wanted to add that you know I had
[42:39] about a dozen what I would call picky
little questions that you've answered in
[42:44] your presentation and with subsequent
dialogue. So that's great. Um, and I
[42:49] think that would it be okay, Rachel, for
us to compile our collective questions
[42:55] and give those to staff to make sure the
staff report we get back is
[42:59] comprehensive.
>> I'm looking to our CEO who's nodding
[43:04] frantically, but that that looks like it
probably is is more doable. So yes.
[43:08] Yeah. So we don't have to worry about
capturing every question we might have
[43:12] in a motion itself, but um can direct
questions
[43:16] in order for it not to have to go back a
couple of times.
[43:19] » Yes,
>> I think it would be helpful if we can do
[43:21] that.
>> That makes good sense. So, so, um, Mr.
[43:26] Nooper, if you could share with us what
the motion might look like anyway.
[43:31] » Uh, so through you, chair. Uh so the
motion at the table uh is that um uh
[43:36] council direct staff to bring forward a
report on the Abco waterfront purchase
[43:41] um regarding their uh ship design and
warf uh with at least a minimum of
[43:47] feedback on water lot leases existing uh
and what is transport Canada and other
[43:53] government's uh distributions within
that and then any other questions as it
[43:57] pertains to council before uh a meeting
here. So then we would have the rights
[44:02] of the town uh or have any other
planning of the water lots and power and
[44:06] infrastructure considerations. So we
have four main questions but more
[44:10] questions to come.
>> Yeah.
[44:14] » So with a motion that captures the those
four primary questions with the
[44:20] allowance of um further questions to um
uh be incorporated into a staff report
[44:28] to follow soon. I would hope um
questions that we have. Um so um is
[44:36] council satisfied with that motion as
it's presented.
[44:41] Yes, councelor Strong.
>> Do I have to read it again?
[44:46] » I'll move because there's no way I could
do that. So So
[44:54] » So it's moved and seconded. So I can
call for the question. All in favor? Any
[45:01] contrary-minded? No one left to
contraryminded. So motions carried and
[45:06] we will get working on a staff report.
And thank you very much for the
[45:09] presentation.
>> Thank you. And and if you have any
[45:12] questions, please you have my email. So
>> through you, chair. One additional
[45:17] question. Uh there was a request here to
allow them to continue doing surveying
[45:21] within the scope. Does council want to
have a motion to support the surveying
[45:25] at this point in time?
[45:33] Uh,
>> I think Mr. Poselson responded that
[45:35] Transport Canada wants to have this part
done.
[45:42] Um,
I think that'd be the ideal. But if if
[45:46] it if if if if
even you reaching out to Transport
[45:51] Canada
uh gets them to allow us to do this in a
[45:55] in a in a what would you call it? I
don't know what I'm saying there. But
[46:01] but I think I have a feeling though if
if if if town council was to reach out
[46:05] to Transport Canada and have a
conversation, you probably figure out
[46:09] what needs to happen there.
[46:13] » Yeah.
>> Y Thank you. Thank you.
[46:19] » Can you there shut off the mic? Thank
you very much. We get caught off with
[46:25] only two mics can function at the same
time. So, we found that out. Um and uh
[46:30] again and yes, so so if there's any
issue with that and then we can
[46:36] certainly um reconsider, but we should
be good to go. So having said that, we
[46:41] can uh call back our colleagues to the
table and continue on with the agenda.
[47:43] Thank you very much. Uh we're now uh to
public input and questions. There was no
[47:48] one signed down, so a few people came
late. If they'd like to say anything, uh
[47:53] now would be the time. Just uh put your
hand up.
[47:58] Okay. So, nobody in public input and
questions. So, we're going to move on
[48:04] then
to correspondence. Uh
[48:09] there are a few items on there that uh
action is required uh required I guess
[48:16] 8.4 but I think we've passed the
deadline. Unfortunately, it came late to
[48:22] us. It only came about a week before it
was due. We can still provide it if you
[48:26] guys are okay with that.
We'll need a motion or something.
[48:34] » Um
if if I have the floor, your worship.
[48:40] » So um the request was for a letter of
support for a um proposal to build Nova
[48:47] Scotia, I think. and and kind of like
the uh LWAI, we wouldn't necessarily
[48:53] support a particular business
proposition, but I think it's very much
[48:56] in order that we um uh demonstrate or or
give a letter um supporting the um the
[49:04] type of business um that this proponent
is is speaking of and um indicate that
[49:10] it certainly is consistent with our hope
for a working waterfront as integral to
[49:17] the town of Lunberg.
So I would move that we provide such a
[49:21] letter and hope that it's helpful.
>> Moved by the deputy mayor, seconded by
[49:26] councelor Fullerton. Uh any further
discussion table? It for those that
[49:31] might not have read it uh in the
audience, it's it's slicker marine
[49:36] innovation hub. So it'll be be similar,
I think, to a cove type thing in
[49:41] Dartmouth. So, I know it's it's
something that we've been interested in
[49:45] or the community has been to to be in
that building and on the waterfront for
[49:49] a while. So, a letter of support I I
don't think will is a bad thing. So, all
[49:54] those in favor raise your right hand.
You have a second.
[49:59] Motion carry unanimous. Uh
we have do we have to do anything with
[50:04] 8.5?
[50:09] I think the next one is 8.7. We have a
proclamation request international day
[50:14] for eradication of poverty. Is someone
prepared to move by councelor Ferton?
[50:20] Second it by deputy mayor. Any questions
or concerns?
[50:25] Go ahead deputy mayor.
>> I just want to make the comment that
[50:28] it's it's already a UN declared special
day of recognition. So if we kind of
[50:33] it's not inappropriate that the council
declare such a or day.
[50:40] through you chair just a process for
council staff are seeking direction if
[50:45] you want a like an actual proclamation
brought forward this was just a letter
[50:47] of request so we have time because it's
October 17th so we could bring it
[50:51] forward at one of the next meetings with
a full proclamation so if you just give
[50:54] if you want to proceed with that then it
would just be direction as follows
[50:59] » so is the mover and second okay with
that
[51:02] okay any other discussion
all those in favor raise your right hand
[51:09] motion carry unanimous
Number nine is business arising and
[51:12] unfinished business. There isn't any. Uh
number 10, new business. Uh the first
[51:18] one is municipal fire inspector
appointment that uh count. Do you want
[51:24] to talk on that or is that's just a
motion? Yeah. So that council appoint
[51:28] Nicole Colback as a municipal fire
inspector for the town of Lunberg
[51:33] pursuant to Nova Scotia Fire Safety Act
and that council direct the chief
[51:37] administrative officer to provide
written notice of the appointment to the
[51:41] Nova Scotia Fire Marshall as required by
legislation.
[51:44] So appear to move that move by councelor
Fitton, second by councelor Babino. Any
[51:49] questions?
Councelor Doffne. Oh, maybe it's a good
[51:54] idea to explain
how she got appointed. And for the
[52:00] people out there that don't understand
like it didn't come from us is what I'm
[52:04] saying.
>> Yeah. So through you, chair. So, as part
[52:08] of our uh joint agreement that we have
with modal for uh hosting both municipal
[52:13] fire inspection services and building
inspection services uh that we purchase,
[52:17] uh they needed to hire a new staff
member uh in the fire marshall or under
[52:22] the fire inspectors. So, in order for us
to proceed to have this fire inspector
[52:26] actually do work within the town, they
actually have to be appointed by
[52:29] council. So, this is the just the formal
process. Uh, Miss Callback has all the
[52:35] necessary criteria and credentials to
meet the specifications as a fire
[52:38] inspector. I did have the opportunity to
meet her. Uh, I'm impressed with her
[52:42] abilities and skills. So, I'm interested
in excited to have her join modal, but
[52:46] as well as be a part of our inspection
services that we offer through our
[52:50] planning department.
>> Thank you. So, there is a recommendation
[52:55] on the floor.
All those in favor, raise your right
[52:59] hand. Motion carried. Unanimous 10.2 uh
two Saltier Inc. In information report,
[53:06] Paul, I think you're up for that.
>> Thank you, council. Uh so this report is
[53:12] the Sultter Inc. playing appeal and
further appeal to the Nova Scotia Court
[53:15] of Appeals. Uh so council at the August
11th meeting uh after a close session
[53:21] discussion of with feedback from legal
uh you made a motion out of close
[53:26] session to proceed with going to the
Nova Scotia Court of Appeals as it
[53:30] becomes uh as it pertained to the Nova
Scotia Regulatory and Appeals Board's
[53:35] decision uh on the Sultter appeal. So,
uh, the report does give a a lengthy
[53:42] background here as to, uh, the
processes, uh, that have been before us,
[53:47] uh, the decisions council made November
25th, uh, where council decided to
[53:51] unanimously unanimously vote to deny the
request of the planning amendments that
[53:55] were before you for the soulare
development, uh, from which, uh, there
[54:00] was an appeal made to the Nova Scotia
uh, regulatory and appeals board. And so
[54:05] for March 23rd through 27th, 2026,
um there was an appeal process here with
[54:12] uh final submissions made by each legal
team on May 15th. And on July 13th,
[54:18] 2026, the board itself made its decision
uh allowing the uh the appeal and
[54:24] directing council to approve the
application. Following review uh of the
[54:28] board's decision and legal advice,
council exercises statutory right to
[54:32] appeal to the court uh uh the Nova
Scotia Court of Appeal.
[54:36] So, just give me one sec. I just got to
back out here. So, as well as uh
[54:41] outlined in the report was the pl the
municipal planning processes, the appeal
[54:45] before the Nova Scotia regulatory
appeals board. And I think it's
[54:49] important that I highlight the appeals
to the Nova Scotia Court of Appeals so
[54:53] that the public understands the next
process. So the I'm just going to read
[54:57] this verbatim here. So the Nova Scotia
Court of Appeals serves a significantly
[55:01] different role than the Nova Scotia
Regulatory Appeals Board. The court is
[55:04] not conducting a new planning review,
planning hearing, or reconsideration of
[55:09] the development application itself.
Rather, the court uh reviews the board's
[55:14] decision to determine whether appealable
legal issues exist relating to matters
[55:19] such as law, jurisdiction, procedural
fairness, or the interpretation and
[55:23] application of the legislation and
planning policy. The court generally
[55:26] relies upon the evidentiary uh record
established before the board. Unlike the
[55:31] board proceedings, the appeal is not
normally an opportunity to reintroduce
[55:35] extensive new evidence received uh uh
receive expert testimony or undertake a
[55:40] new assessment of the planning merits of
the proposal. The court is therefore
[55:45] generally not being asked to determine
whether additional housing is required
[55:48] within the community, whether the
proposed development is desirable or
[55:52] undesirable, whether residential support
or uh whether residents support or
[55:56] oppose the proposal, whether one
planning outcome is preferable to
[56:00] another, or whether broader growth,
housing, economic development or
[56:04] heritage policy objectives should
prevail.
[56:08] These matters form part of the municipal
planning and board uh review processes.
[56:13] The court's review is focused on the
legal issues raised on appeal and the
[56:17] board's application of the governing
legislative framework. If the court
[56:21] dismisses the appeal, the board's
decision would remain in effect. If the
[56:24] court allows the appeal, it may provide
a remedy authorized by law, including
[56:29] varying or setting aside the board's
decision or directing further
[56:33] proceedings consistent with the court's
reasons. So, considerations raised
[56:38] through public correspondence. So you
did receive u numerous letters uh that
[56:42] came in. Questions raised through public
correspondence were related to the
[56:45] statutory rights of appe uh of
applicants to appeal planning decisions,
[56:50] council's authority to appeal decisions
of the board, the distinction between
[56:53] the board's hearing process and the
court appeal process, financial
[56:57] implications associated with the
proceedings, and potential outcomes
[57:01] under the appeal process. So these
questions have been raised regarding
[57:05] housing supply, residential growth,
economic development, infrastructure,
[57:08] taxation, heritage, conservation, UNESCO
designation, and the town's long-term
[57:12] planning direction. Uh these are
important public policy matters.
[57:17] However, they extend beyond the scope of
the current court of appeal process and
[57:21] are more appropriately considered
through council strategic direction and
[57:25] initiatives. So potential outcomes, the
court uh of appeal may dismiss the
[57:31] appeal, allow the appeal, vary the
board's decisions where authorized by
[57:34] law, or direct further proceedings. Any
further actions available to any party
[57:39] would depend on the court's decision,
applicable legislation, and legal advice
[57:43] available at the time. As the matter
remains before the court, staff cannot
[57:47] speculate regarding potential future
litigation, additional appeals, legal
[57:50] claims, or the likelihood of any
particular outcome. Should additional
[57:54] decisions be required, count uh
following uh the council's
[57:58] determination, staff will return to
council with information available uh
[58:03] available options and necessary
recommendations. So council uh just so
[58:07] for further legislative so this falls
under the MGA our municipal planning
[58:12] strategy our land use uh bylaw the Nova
Scotia regulatory and appeals board acts
[58:16] and board rules as well as the Nova
Scotia court of appeals rules and
[58:20] applicable uh uh procedures as come that
what has also become in question is what
[58:25] is the cost so the town has incurred and
will continue to incur based on the
[58:29] council's decision legal and
administrative costs associated with the
[58:33] NSA proceedings. as well as the
subsequent appeal to the Nova Scotia
[58:37] Court of Appeal. The majority of legal,
technical expertise, administrative, and
[58:41] staff related costs associated with this
matter were incurred during the actual
[58:45] hearing process. The board proceedings
involved preparation of evidence,
[58:50] documentation, production, legal
submissions, hearing, attendance, uh
[58:54] witness participation, planning,
analysis, and development of the
[58:57] evidentiary records consistent uh
considered by the board. By comparison,
[59:01] the court of appeal process uh
proceedings is generally narrowed in
[59:05] scope and primarily relies upon a record
the record already established in the
[59:10] board process. While legal costs
associated with the court proceedings
[59:14] will continue to be incurred, the appeal
does not typically involve the same
[59:17] degree of evidence gathering, hearing
preparation, technical review, and
[59:21] witness participation associated with
the earlier board processes. Staff
[59:26] involvement in the court processes is
expected to be primarily involved uh
[59:31] involve coordination with legal counsel
monitoring the procedural requirements
[59:34] and communicating uh communication
supports. Uh expenditures will continue
[59:39] to be monitored through the tales
financial reporting processes. Any
[59:42] additional budget implications will be
reported to council as appropriate. Uh
[59:47] provided below is a chart outlining the
current cost to date. These costs do not
[59:51] represent town staff costs associated
with the processes of the appeal. The
[59:55] Nova Scotia Court of Appeal processes
has an estimated cost of 30 to $35,000
[59:59] in addition to the expenses to date. Uh
with the current so within our our
[1:00:05] experts and as well as our legal team,
our current total is $92,1379.
[1:00:12] Council at this point in time uh any
public communication uh requires factual
[1:00:17] procedural and will remain neutral. So
any communications as council wishes
[1:00:21] will provide the history of the
application, the board's decision,
[1:00:25] council's decision to appeal, the status
of the court processes, and any publicly
[1:00:29] available procedural updates.
Chair, that is the report based on the
[1:00:34] information that we have today.
>> Thank you very much, Paul. Are there any
[1:00:38] questions for Paul or comments? [snorts]
Deputy mayor,
[1:00:44] » just um it's in the report. It's a
recommendation that we accept. Do we is
[1:00:48] a formal motion required? Okay.
Thanks for the report. Thanks. Very
[1:00:53] comprehensive.
>> Any other comments or questions around
[1:00:58] the table? Council Strong,
>> I'm just curious. Should the grounds of
[1:01:02] appeal be read into the record? I know
they're here, but will people see them?
[1:01:09] They don't tend to read everything.
[1:01:15] I I guess we we'll just put them in the
minutes, I think. Yeah. Okay. Well, we
[1:01:21] can read them that are here, but I think
we just put them in the minutes.
[1:01:25] » You want I can read them, but there's a
>> there's there's four
[1:01:28] » Yep.
>> There's four grounds of appeal. So, if
[1:01:31] you want Paul to read them. Yeah. Go
ahead.
[1:01:35] » So, uh under the grounds of appeal, the
grounds of appeal are as follows. Number
[1:01:39] one, the board aired at law by treating
the municipal planning strategy, the
[1:01:43] MPS, intent to separate use and form
zoning as paramount to all other
[1:01:49] languages in the MPS. The board's
watertight separation of use and form
[1:01:54] zoning had the effect of entirely uh
negating the MPS policy 613A.
[1:02:01] Number two, the board aired at law in
its interpretation of and in its failure
[1:02:06] to accord defense
uh to council's assessment of the
[1:02:12] criteria under MPS policy 613A, B, and C
and failed to respect uh to council's
[1:02:19] role as stewards of the town's UNESCO
World Heritage site. Number three, the
[1:02:24] board aired at law in its interpretation
of and application of policy 613D
[1:02:30] and the parts of policy 619C
regarding traffic and pedestrian safety,
[1:02:36] flooding and drainage and climate change
risks and by treating concerns about
[1:02:41] those issues as able to be cured at
future development uh permitting and
[1:02:47] subdivision approval stages. contrary to
the uh the applicable legislation and
[1:02:52] subordinate legislation. And fourth and
final, the board aired at law by
[1:02:57] assessing Sulttera, Inc.'s reszoning
application against applicable MPS
[1:03:01] criteria as though Sulttera would be
bound to uh its development proposal as
[1:03:07] if the proposal were an enforcable
development agreement.
[1:03:11] » [snorts]
>> Council was entitled to consider and
[1:03:13] should have been accorded
uh defenses uh in its uh consideration
[1:03:19] of the impacts of any uh potential
development enabled by the resoning
[1:03:25] particularly in circumstances when the
development proposal underwent a reputed
[1:03:29] bewildering set of changes while it was
before council. Those are the four
[1:03:34] grounds of appeal.
>> Thank you. Any other questions or
[1:03:38] comments?
Okay. Uh there's nothing else to do with
[1:03:42] that report at this time. So again,
thank you Paul and staff for preparing
[1:03:46] that. And uh we will move on to 10.3, a
report for tender. There is a
[1:03:52] recommendation there, but uh is Tyson
up? Tyson,
[1:04:06] » thank you worship. Uh good evening to
everyone.
[1:04:10] Uh this evening we have a staff report
on uh the tenor award for the Pelum
[1:04:17] Street road reconstruction phase 2. Uh
the recommendation in the report is that
[1:04:25] council award the Pelum Street road
reconstruction
[1:04:29] phase 2 tender to Dexter construction
for the amount of $326,800
[1:04:37] plus HST.
So this uh this phase two of the project
[1:04:43] follows on from the work that was done
late last year. So last year it was
[1:04:49] Pelum from King to Prince. This would be
taking it from Prince up to Hopson where
[1:04:55] the the work some years ago was done uh
continuing down Pelum.
[1:05:02] So the scope of work includes
um digging up the road and replacing 85
[1:05:10] lineal meters of road. Um while doing
that I'm replacing the sewer main there.
[1:05:17] So 74 mters of pipe and the manhole up
near Hopson Street and then some minor
[1:05:23] upgrades to the the storm system. So
that those two blocks will be storm
[1:05:28] separated for for future uh engagement
with our system.
[1:05:34] Uh it's included within the documents
that the work needs to be completed by
[1:05:40] the end of October. So it ties in well
with sort of um winter conditions. I I
[1:05:46] hope. Um so yeah, just just trying to
make sure we're in good shape with that.
[1:05:53] So the tender closed on August 21 and is
valid for about 3 months. Uh two two
[1:06:00] bids received.
Um and that's summarized in the table.
[1:06:07] Uh so both the submissions were reviewed
and they're both uh in compliance and uh
[1:06:12] based on the bid amount uh
recommendation is to award to Dexter.
[1:06:19] Um within the the finance section of the
report um the there's there are sort of
[1:06:25] three components within the capital
budget. So we have the straight
[1:06:29] reconstruction resurfacing, we have the
storm system and the sanitary system. Uh
[1:06:36] so combined those component components
add up to 420,000.
[1:06:43] There's a summary of the budget based on
the tender we received. So um the 388300
[1:06:53] that we're we're forecasting uh fits
nicely within that that 420. So, um, and
[1:07:01] the funding's combined. There's
components from the deed transfer tax
[1:07:05] and the gas tax that were all included
in what council approved uh, back in
[1:07:12] February. So, uh, that concludes the
report, but if if there are questions
[1:07:18] about, uh, the tender or or the work, I
can I can answer them.
[1:07:24] » Thank you, Tyson. Are there any
questions around the table?
[1:07:28] Council Babino.
>> Thank you. Through the chair. Um, can
[1:07:32] you tell me who we awarded the tender
to? Who did the work on the the previous
[1:07:36] section of this road?
>> So through the chair. It was it was the
[1:07:41] other bit of Atlantic snow and ice
management.
[1:07:43] » Okay. Perfect. Thank you.
>> Any other questions or comments?
[1:07:49] Hey, there's a recommendation there in
front of us. Deputy mayor. I was just
[1:07:54] going to move the recommendation.
>> Go ahead.
[1:07:58] » If no one else had any questions or they
can still ask them after there's a
[1:08:01] motion on the floor, but I would move
that council award the Palm Street road
[1:08:04] con reconstruction phase 2 tender to
Dexter Construction Limited for the
[1:08:08] amount of 326
326,800
[1:08:14] plus HST.
>> Move. Is there a seconder? Seconded by
[1:08:17] councelor Greek. Any further discussion
on the motion?
[1:08:21] All those in favor raise your right
hand.
[1:08:24] Motion carried unanimous. I'd just like
to say first before Tyson leaves the
[1:08:29] table, uh, number one, it's nice to have
a tender come under budget. That's
[1:08:33] happened a couple times now. But number
two, and most importantly, I want to
[1:08:37] thank Tyson and his crew for what their
efforts uh, starting last Wednesday
[1:08:42] around lunchtime. Uh, the community uh,
is grateful for everything that staff
[1:08:47] has done and you and your team
responding to what could have been
[1:08:50] disastrous. So again, I want to thank
you and pass that along to the the the
[1:08:56] crew down at the at the building
because, you know, Saturday around 3
[1:09:01] things were looking pretty pretty scary
or Wednesday around 3 and uh to
[1:09:06] basically have to put a a notice
[snorts] out on Saturday to say use
[1:09:10] water to tells you how well everything
coordinated and our staff worked. So,
[1:09:15] thank you very much, Tyson, to you and
your your staff. Thank you.
[1:09:21] Thank you your worship. Um we got to pay
a lot of credit to everyone that uh was
[1:09:27] involved. So that included our town
staff uh both in the field and um in
[1:09:34] this building and the armories where
great support um from our the engineers
[1:09:39] and contractors
uh local contractors as well that that
[1:09:44] sent trucking power and excavators
um and um and then yeah the community as
[1:09:51] a whole in terms of when we're in that
water conservation that was that was uh
[1:09:56] very important.
And then uh so the buy in there was was
[1:10:01] great. Um and our water resource team uh
had a new team member start last week
[1:10:08] and uh quite quite a baptism uh but uh
very very valuable contribution from
[1:10:16] from all that team as well. So um yeah
very thankful for all those
[1:10:22] contributions.
>> Great. Well, thank you. And and we don't
[1:10:26] ever want Oh, yeah. We don't ever want
to use this again, but seeing Remo in
[1:10:30] action was was really nice to see. They
did an incredible job. And it's nice to
[1:10:35] know it's there when needed. And like I
said, I hope we don't need it ever
[1:10:39] again, but especially anytime soon. But
again, everybody went into action and
[1:10:43] you never know how things are going to
work out until a real disaster happens.
[1:10:47] And Remo really worked well. So again,
thank you very much. and uh you know
[1:10:53] [snorts] thank you.
So move on to 10.4. There's a couple
[1:10:59] recommendations there. Uh motion report
for use of half funding for RFP awards
[1:11:05] totaling 55,000. Paul.
>> Yeah. Uh through you chair and thank
[1:11:10] you. Uh so this comes back to the May
5th committee of the whole meeting where
[1:11:14] our senior planner at the time Mr.
Powell brought forward the discussions
[1:11:18] of bringing in uh two uh consultants.
One to work on the MPS and LUB
[1:11:24] amendments that council would like to
move forward with and the other one was
[1:11:28] to focus on one of the final half um uh
housing accelerator fund programs and
[1:11:33] policies which was looking at town
surplus land and what could be uh used
[1:11:37] for potential use in housing. So the
background again just overlaid there. uh
[1:11:43] so provided were the two options. RFPs
were closed on July 28th. They were
[1:11:49] reviewed and the goal was to not exceed
so the budget of 50,000 as it came to a
[1:11:54] target of submissions um with the
amendments
[1:11:57] of what we have uh in the discussion. Uh
we had two uh proponents step up. We had
[1:12:03] five submissions through both. Uh the
review committee recommends FOTen uh for
[1:12:08] council's consideration. uh they uh and
this is for the MPS and LUB amendments.
[1:12:12] FOTM received the highest scoring
combination along with uh their
[1:12:16] compliant proposals. Uh their scope will
include a review of draft amendments for
[1:12:22] cohesive and conformity to the MGA and
regul and related uh regulations. Uh
[1:12:27] review housing delivery and
infrastructure implications including
[1:12:30] environmental, social and fiscal
considerations. Consider UNESCO World
[1:12:33] Heritage Management Frameworks along
with the MPSLUB, the Heritage
[1:12:37] Conservation District instruments to
identify opportunities for clearer
[1:12:41] coordinated coordination protections and
stewardship of Old Tale Lunberg and the
[1:12:46] outstanding universal value. Advise on
the development application processes,
[1:12:50] enforcement, heritage alignment and
potential effects on the uh UV and the
[1:12:56] heritage designations.
uh uh prepare consultation material for
[1:13:01] and to conduct with council staff at
public and other stakeholders and uh
[1:13:06] adjust draft amendments to bring back
forward to council on a high level.
[1:13:11] ities were the as part of the RFP. So
looking at parking, mobility and
[1:13:14] electric vehicles, development controls,
tools and public benefits, short-term
[1:13:18] rentals and accessory dwelling units, uh
height, built form, heritage and UNESCO,
[1:13:24] environmental and site development,
administrative and regulatory
[1:13:28] clarifications and infrastructure and
subdivision standards. Under the surplus
[1:13:33] uh land analysis, there were again five
submissions. Uh the uh the committee is
[1:13:37] recommending a Fathom Studio. Uh Fathom
received the highest combination score.
[1:13:42] Uh their scope to date will be view
three pre-identified town owned
[1:13:47] properties for possible surplus
designation and affordability affordable
[1:13:51] housing feasibility. Apply the land
dvestigure policy and land profile
[1:13:56] evaluation tool. Review the properties.
Sorry, did I Yeah, review the properties
[1:14:02] under the existing MPS NUB without
requiring planning document amendments.
[1:14:06] Consider access and services, heritage
and UNESCO importance and potential
[1:14:10] financial viability as well as score the
properties, provide an evaluation
[1:14:15] matrix, identify one property for
council's consideration, present the the
[1:14:19] analysis to council. Uh at this point in
time, council uh under the financial
[1:14:25] sections. Uh so Foten submitted the
$42,500
[1:14:30] uh excluding HST. HST is $5,950
producing a total of 48,450.
[1:14:37] So that still goes under the 50,000 RFP.
The other one is Fathom Studios
[1:14:42] submitted for $13,000 uh excluding HST.
HST is $1,820 producing 14,820 before
[1:14:49] dispersements. Uh the scoring file
records $150 dispersement producing a
[1:14:54] potential total of 1490 14,970. So this
was goes under the $50,000 budget
[1:15:00] threshold at this time. Uh because this
is coming out of the housing accelerator
[1:15:05] fund, we would need motions of council
to proceed as this would be an
[1:15:08] additional service outside of the budget
uh deliberations from council that was
[1:15:12] approved. So council, before you are two
recommendations uh one for Foten and one
[1:15:17] for Fathom Studios.
Thank you. Uh, councelor Strong,
[1:15:26] » a couple of questions. Um, it's
difficult for me to to look at this
[1:15:32] without knowing how how the scoring
works for starters and so I I can't like
[1:15:37] I'm just it's taking your word for it,
which I think is important. Um, but at
[1:15:43] the same time, if we look at the one we
just saw, we did see the companies set
[1:15:48] out and gave us a little bit more of an
idea of what was taken into
[1:15:53] consideration. Having said that, um, I
did look voting up on the internet and
[1:15:59] their services are mainly in Kingston,
Ontario, um, Ontario and one other pl or
[1:16:06] Toronto. Okay. Um, and that's fine with
me. There there was no one locally that
[1:16:12] could do this
>> through you chair. Those that were
[1:16:16] locally that were within the submissions
uh did not score to the same level as
[1:16:21] Foten did from their experience and and
their expertise that were on staff and
[1:16:25] that was that was scored by five uh four
different staff members across our our
[1:16:30] town staff. So all all scoring it
differently and then having them merge
[1:16:34] together to see who who came with the
best scores.
[1:16:37] » Good. Thank you very much. And then the
uh with the foten is that am I
[1:16:42] pronouncing it correctly? Okay. Um I am
really happy to see and I will read this
[1:16:47] into the record. The planning reveal
review will also consider the town's
[1:16:51] UNESCO World Heritage Management
Framework. The process provides an
[1:16:55] opportunity to examine how the MPS LUB
heritage conservation district plan and
[1:17:00] bylaw and related municipal policies
collectively support the production of
[1:17:04] Oldtown Lunberg, its outstanding
universal value and the management of
[1:17:09] the World Heritage Property and Buffer
Zone. I think it's finally we've we've
[1:17:13] put that forward over a year ago and it
it's terrific to see that that will be
[1:17:17] one of the considerations.
Um
[1:17:21] with
moving on to the second one which was a
[1:17:27] is you're asking us to award it to
Fathom. Fathom is a Nova Scotia company.
[1:17:34] Okay. And I know I uh have seen their
work especially as it has come before
[1:17:40] the heritage advisory committee recently
um for the uh accessibility of the
[1:17:46] Lunberg Opera House. So, um, pleased to
move that one if you want me to just go
[1:17:51] ahead and move that one and let someone
else do the vote in or do they have to
[1:17:54] be moved at the same time?
>> Two separate. So, if you want to move
[1:17:58] the second one now, you can.
>> Okay, I'll move the second one.
[1:18:02] » Okay. They got council awards RFP number
2026016
[1:18:11] surplus land analysis to Fathom Studio
in the amount of 13,000 excluding HST
[1:18:17] plus dispersements of up to 150 with the
total contract amount not to exceed
[1:18:22] 15,000 inclusive of taxes and
dispersements. So that's what you're
[1:18:26] moving. Right. Right.
>> Is there a seconder?
[1:18:29] » Seconded by councelor Babau. Any further
discussion on that motion?
[1:18:34] » Oh, councelor Babina.
>> Actually, this is sort of directed at
[1:18:38] you, chair. Um, uh, correct me if I'm
wrong. Was Fathom Studio not also the
[1:18:43] ones who did our, uh, wayfinding
signage?
[1:18:47] Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. See, you know.
Yeah. Okay, perfect. That's what I
[1:18:50] thought, but I couldn't quite remember.
I have actually worked with them in the
[1:18:53] past then. They're great.
>> That's one of the other questions.
[1:18:59] All those in favor, raise your right
hand.
[1:19:02] Opposed? Motion carried. Unanimous. Now
we have one recommendation left. Anyone?
[1:19:07] Council Fton, do you want to make that?
>> Yes, I can.
[1:19:12] Uh the motion is that council or the
recommended motion is that council
[1:19:17] awards RFP number to 202617
planning and consultation services for
[1:19:25] municipal planning strategy and land use
bylaw amendments to FO10 consultants in
[1:19:31] the amount of $42,500
excluding HST. It's been moved second by
[1:19:37] councelor Dhoffany. Any question or
discussion? Deputy Mayor,
[1:19:42] » just want to comment that I am um very
pleased to see this um award being or
[1:19:50] this tendered being awarded um so that
this work can get underway. Um it's
[1:19:55] gives um we're we're going to be
creating many opportunities for the
[1:20:00] public to have input and for this to be
a um [snorts] you know a communitywide
[1:20:06] discussion on what we have recognized as
as difficulties within our municipal
[1:20:12] planning strategy and land use bylaw
framework currently. Um so I think it's
[1:20:17] um really great that it's going to be
happening. Um, I guess I'm just just um
[1:20:23] a a question of our CEO with regard to
oversight of this and the expectation
[1:20:29] timeline recognizing our director of
community development is on leave right
[1:20:33] now. So will um is there anything that
you can say about
[1:20:40] um getting you know getting the work
underway as soon as possible?
[1:20:44] » So through your chair the within the RFP
there was outlines of processes that
[1:20:47] they can get started with with the
research. So as soon as I mean once
[1:20:52] council makes a decision on this then
it'll be for myself to direct staff to
[1:20:57] at least get that process going do the
intro meetings but there is a research
[1:21:02] uh dive component that will start
knowing that our staff will return uh by
[1:21:07] just after Thanksgiving that we'll be
able to space it out but the goal is to
[1:21:11] at least start the deep research because
the goal is uh based on the the process
[1:21:15] was by January of 2027 to be back before
council. So they have work to do at
[1:21:20] least in the research aspect and they
can go back and forth with staff and as
[1:21:24] necessary we can relate back with Mr.
Howell like we have permission to do
[1:21:28] that as well because he initiated this
through council. So we'll be working
[1:21:32] that way.
>> Thank you.
[1:21:35] » Any other questions or comments?
Okay. Motion made and seconded. All
[1:21:41] those in favor raise your right hand.
Motion carried unanimous.
[1:21:46] Now we'll move on to 10.5.
I think Jamie Deans is up.
[1:21:58] All right. Good evening. Um, yes. So,
the Terry Fox flag raising and
[1:22:04] proclamation.
Uh the recommendation is the council
[1:22:07] approve the 2000 2026 Terry Fox flag
raising and proclamation and the council
[1:22:13] amend appendix A approval annual
proclamations and flag raisings of the
[1:22:18] Tenno Lunberg public statements policy
include an annual Terry Fox flag raising
[1:22:23] and proclamation.
So basically the background is the
[1:22:26] organiz of the Lunberg Terry Fox fund
approach us. They requested that we uh
[1:22:31] raise the flag and do a proclamation for
this year. uh in discussing it uh it was
[1:22:36] thought that as the Terry Fox run is
well known across the country and I'm
[1:22:41] not going to go into explaining what it
is but a lot of people locally
[1:22:44] participate in it um that it would
probably fall into the category of uh
[1:22:50] annual proclamations and flag raisings
as per appendex A of the very long uh
[1:22:56] title. So uh
the the three alternatives here would be
[1:23:01] approved. The recommendation is
presented. Approve the 2026 flag raising
[1:23:05] a proclamation without uh adding the
event to the list of pre-approved annual
[1:23:10] uh recognitions. Amend the request or
provide alternative direction or decline
[1:23:15] the request.
>> Thank you. Are there any questions to
[1:23:18] Jamie? Deputy mayor.
>> Just have a question with regard to flag
[1:23:22] raising um and putting that in as an
annual thing. Um I don't have any
[1:23:27] problem with that. I think, you know,
Terry Fox run in Lunberg is a very
[1:23:32] long-standing tradition and it's nice to
give it some extra profile. Um, uh,
[1:23:38] having had such a long history in the
community. Um, but is that just a flag
[1:23:43] raising? I mean just the idea of having
the a ter and I assume there is a
[1:23:49] purpose flag then for [clears throat]
this and then it would just be put up a
[1:23:54] day before or something does not
necessarily require an event around
[1:24:00] that. I guess that's what I'm looking
for clarification on
[1:24:04] » through the chair. Great question. Um
yes. So essentially there's really no
[1:24:08] cost to the town. Um they have provided
a flag already. uh in discussing it with
[1:24:14] the organizer, they were thinking
perhaps a week out or whatever the
[1:24:20] council chooses, but it would be well
ahead of the Sundays. I think it's
[1:24:24] typically the third Sunday in September.
So, it would be well ahead of that. Um
[1:24:29] they had requested that if we do a flag
raising and a proclamation, most of ours
[1:24:34] fall into uh midday activities, early
morning, but since it's a very uh
[1:24:39] volunteer um driven organization and
they'd like to get as many out as
[1:24:43] possible, they did request that we do it
later in the day or a weekend. I would
[1:24:48] lean probably to later in the day. Um
but yes, so it could it could actually
[1:24:53] in talking to the CEO, it could actually
be something in the future where perhaps
[1:24:57] the council meeting before um the uh
next Terry Fox run. So in 2027, the
[1:25:04] council meeting before council could
meet possibly a little bit earlier by
[1:25:08] the flag pole. We could do the event
then so that we're actually um not
[1:25:12] inconveniencing uh anyone and it would
fall into the request of the
[1:25:17] organization.
Thank you. Any other questions or
[1:25:22] comments? There is a recommendation
there. Then we're prepared to move that
[1:25:26] move by councelor Bab. Yes.
>> I'll read it out. Um is this all one
[1:25:31] motion?
>> Well, thank yeah. Well, you can. So
[1:25:36] » for you, council, there are two motions
there. You can either have them as one
[1:25:41] or you. So, council, I guess my question
is, are you prepared to allow uh
[1:25:46] appendix A to be amended uh for the
Terry Fox? And if so, then you can read
[1:25:50] them as one motion. If not, then you
would read one followed by the other.
[1:25:54] » Okay. Um I'm going to put them as one,
and I guess if you guys don't agree, you
[1:25:58] can vote that way. Um, [laughter]
uh, so I move that council approve the
[1:26:03] 2026 Terry Foxrun flag raising and
proclamation and that council amend
[1:26:08] appendix A, approved annual
proclamations and flag raisings of the
[1:26:12] town of Lunberg public statements policy
to include an annual Terry Foxrun flag
[1:26:17] raising and proclamation.
>> So moved. Is there a seconder? Second by
[1:26:22] councelor Fullerton. Any further
discussion on the motion? All those in
[1:26:26] favor, raise your right hand. Motion
carry unanimous. Thank you, Jamie. And
[1:26:32] I'd also like to uh uh give you my uh
appreciation and thanks for the those
[1:26:37] four or five days. Uh I talked to you
more than I did my wife there for about
[1:26:42] 4 days or so. So again, thank you very
much. Uh sometimes I was texting you
[1:26:48] early early in the morning or late at
night because that's when I was getting
[1:26:51] requests by different sources of media.
So you always responded quickly and uh
[1:26:57] everything. So, thank you so much
>> through the chair. Appreciate it. And uh
[1:27:01] it was a literally a total team effort.
So, [laughter]
[1:27:04] I don't think we could have done it
without everybody. So, thank you for all
[1:27:07] the assistance.
>> Thank you. So, we're on to notice of
[1:27:11] motions, information request, and
council reports. So, we'll start at the
[1:27:16] left tonight. Councilor Fullerton.
[1:27:21] I don't really have too much to report
other than it's been all about water
[1:27:25] obviously and um and you know certainly
I appreciate it um
[1:27:33] the experience of seeing the team in
action and the responses and um you know
[1:27:40] from from our first notification that
there was a problem to uh the community
[1:27:46] response the uh the emergency management
ment response and so on. So I think it
[1:27:51] was um as everybody has said it was much
appreciated that the efforts were made
[1:27:57] and that uh at least for now um we're
back where we need to be to function as
[1:28:05] a town. Um so I just that's that's my
two cents on that. uh two upcoming
[1:28:10] events this week that are noteworthy and
um quite somber actually is uh on the
[1:28:17] 11th of September is the 25th
anniversary of the 9/11 tragedy in New
[1:28:23] York City
and on Sunday we uh remember the people
[1:28:29] who were lost to the sea at the fish
fiser memorial and I just wanted to
[1:28:35] acknowledge those two occasions
Thank you, councelor Greek.
[1:28:42] » Uh, nothing new to report on my end.
Just also want to pass along my uh,
[1:28:46] sincere appreciation and thank you to
everyone's efforts through uh, last
[1:28:51] week's water conservation and repairs.
>> Thank you, Council Babino.
[1:28:58] » Nothing to report.
>> Council Strong,
[1:29:03] » I'm here daydreaming, but I'm listening
to everybody. Um, yeah, I guess I tag on
[1:29:08] too. I'm a little late to the party, but
thank everybody in the town of
[1:29:12] Lunenburgg and in the town hall and
outside of the town hall for coming
[1:29:17] together and and I want to thank all of
my colleagues sitting around this table
[1:29:22] because we held it together with our
team messaging back and forth and when
[1:29:28] there were little gaps identified under
the Remo part, we kind of picked up on
[1:29:32] those and I never expected that I would
be directing traffic at the farmers
[1:29:36] market, for example, but Those were the
things that we all did and I think uh
[1:29:42] yeah it was a tremendous effort. I we
could have probably built a new building
[1:29:46] with the energy that was coming out of
here this that weekend and thank you to
[1:29:51] councelor Fullerton for remembering 911.
I think that's a significant day and and
[1:29:57] as again yeah the service coming up on
Sunday will be an emotional one and
[1:30:02] recognizing the 26 August scales and
knowing that the 27th is around the
[1:30:07] corner and it's even a worse example of
of uh of disaster. Um, I'm pretty much
[1:30:15] back to work with all my committee work
and uh board stuff going on around town.
[1:30:20] And um
uh also a big thank you to Harborview
[1:30:25] Haven. For us, not doing the laundry as
residents was uh something we had to
[1:30:30] endure, but when you're doing laundry
for 125 residents, it it was a really
[1:30:34] big thing. They they followed their
procedure, did everything they could.
[1:30:40] Tim kept the board up to date. So, I I
really wanted to thank Harborview for
[1:30:45] that. Um, I could go on all night.
Where's your hook? Anyway, uh, yeah,
[1:30:51] thank you to everybody. This is a
wonderful community. You really realize
[1:30:54] that when you see us all in action over
the last week,
[1:31:00] » Council Dhne,
>> ditto on the water. I'm not going to go
[1:31:05] all through that again. Um,
happy belated 61st anniversary to
[1:31:13] Lynwood and Joan Lance. Uh, Lynwood is
in the rehab center in the city
[1:31:19] improving from what I'm told. And um,
Joan has recently
[1:31:25] or a few months ago moved to Hillside
Pines. And if you follow Hillside Pines,
[1:31:32] you will see that Joan is never there
because she's
[1:31:37] taking advantage of everything that is
being offered through there. So, she's
[1:31:43] like a seven-year-old again. Um, and the
last thing is the most important thing.
[1:31:51] Fall is here, the heat is gone, and I'm
getting happier.
[1:31:58] Thank you, Deputy Mayor.
>> Um, I I'm I'm just going to get back to
[1:32:04] to brass tax actually [laughter]
with all the wonderful accolades that
[1:32:08] have been already stated. Um, I I I
ditto um copy counselor Dhne on that and
[1:32:15] and the reminders of the Fiser Memorial
Service. Hope we have um a great turnout
[1:32:19] for that very important event here
locally. Um, but I I do want to um ask
[1:32:25] if uh council would entertain um a a
motion for council for staff direction
[1:32:31] tonight um on a topic that was brought
up at our committee of the whole meeting
[1:32:36] um recently with respect to um uh how
correspondence is handled um during our
[1:32:43] meetings. Um and just getting a staff
report on appropriate response to um
[1:32:50] correspond items of correspondent that
appear on our agenda. Um sometimes it
[1:32:55] feels um a little awkward and there
isn't a an
[1:33:00] yeah no necess dictated format for
reply. And so um we we we'd identified
[1:33:08] that as something we'd like to improve
upon. So, um, I would just move that we
[1:33:13] direct staff to provide us a report on
how we may handle that by way of policy.
[1:33:20] » So, that's a notice of motion.
>> Well, actually, it can be a motion.
[1:33:23] Yeah. Looking for just because it's to
direct staff and not to expend money or
[1:33:28] do anything unusual.
>> So, it's a motion made, seconded by
[1:33:32] councelor Strong. Any discussion on the
motion? All those in favor, raise your
[1:33:37] right hand. Motion carry unanimous. Is
that everything? Deputy mayor.
[1:33:41] » Yeah, thanks very much.
>> And Paul, you wanted to say
[1:33:45] » uh thank you council and thank you
chair. Um yeah, I'm the jump on the
[1:33:49] bandwagon here for the the water
situation. Actually, what I was want to
[1:33:53] say is um during the water situation,
folks may have seen that there was an
[1:33:58] acting CEO uh in process. uh just so
happened that uh we had a family medical
[1:34:06] process that has been long awaited uh
and what happened on the same day or the
[1:34:11] day after uh the main event. But I do
want to acknowledge Lisa Dagley uh for
[1:34:16] taking on the role as acting CEO um and
her response, her able to work with the
[1:34:22] team. Hearing back from her and her
communications with everybody. Seeing
[1:34:26] how others stepped up to the plate and
really supported the town really just
[1:34:30] goes to show and again what an amazing
team we do have here. The coordination
[1:34:34] with council and staff was very much
appreciated. And then on the regional
[1:34:38] level, seeing our partners really come
into action when we needed support, how
[1:34:42] they helped us and what those processes
were. Couldn't be prouder to be in
[1:34:45] Lunberg County as well as within this
town. So, uh, kudos to everyone, but
[1:34:50] really definitely needed to be said.
Thank you, Lisa, for all your support,
[1:34:53] uh, while I was off. Thank you.
>> Thank you very much. And I guess I'm
[1:34:58] just going to finish off on the
bandwagon, but I would like to add like
[1:35:02] uh we have basically three big
industries in town besides Harborview
[1:35:06] Haven, which is one of our biggest
employers, but uh Highlininer, Stellia,
[1:35:10] and Abco all uh jumped on the water
conservation guidelines and closed the
[1:35:16] whole day on Friday. So for three
industries of that size to close for a
[1:35:20] day is, you know, quite incredible. all
the restaurants on Labor Day weekend,
[1:35:26] basically going into Labor Day weekend.
So, Thursday evening and all day Friday
[1:35:30] until 6 PM shut their doors. Uh I
personally called about 12 people here
[1:35:36] cuz they were overwhelmed and nobody had
any push back. They understood the
[1:35:39] situation we were in. So, uh quite
honestly, I I really was overwhelmed by
[1:35:45] the response we got. I did find out from
a couple of my colleagues, I was told
[1:35:50] that I have the uh face for radio and
voice for the people. So, I guess I
[1:35:54] learned something in the last five days.
And uh lastly, quite honestly, and I'll
[1:36:00] say this, and I've said it before, but
these last five days, I've never been
[1:36:03] more honored to be sitting in this
chair. So, again, thank you very much to
[1:36:07] everybody.
[1:36:12] So, we'll move on to uh committee of the
whole. That's just if you need items
[1:36:16] added, you can text staff or email
staff. Motion action list. Same sort of
[1:36:21] thing. We're going down through there
and uh slowly eliminating things. Oh,
[1:36:25] Deputy Mayor,
I just wonder if we can kind of combine
[1:36:29] those two um and and make a point of
perhaps reviewing our motion action list
[1:36:34] and and um identifying if there's
anything else to come out of that in our
[1:36:37] next committee, the whole meeting
because we kind of put it on the end of
[1:36:42] our meetings.
Sorry. And and don't want it don't want
[1:36:47] it to be overlooked and and uh maybe we
could give it some more attention at our
[1:36:50] committee of the whole meeting. Thank
you.
[1:36:52] » Great. Great idea.
>> What?
[1:36:57] » Oh, what the desks? Oh, yes. So, we get
these from here.
[1:37:01] » So, Wolffill was getting uh rid of these
desks council set up and uh they have a
[1:37:07] municipal program that they put out and
you can if some municipal pality wants
[1:37:12] some of these what they thought was
junk, I guess. Uh you can have it for
[1:37:17] free. You just got to go get it. So, we
thank Wolfville and I thank the public
[1:37:21] works guys for going to get this because
this is a lot more professional and it's
[1:37:26] a really makes the front more room for
accessibility. So, again, uh just if
[1:37:32] anyone's asking this cost us gas to go
to Kenfield or to Wolfville and back.
[1:37:37] So, uh again, thank you very much to
Wolfill.
[1:37:41] Uh and then there's nothing in closed
session. So a motion for adjournment
[1:37:45] moved by councelor Ful and second by
councelor Strong. Uh thank you very
[1:37:49] much. Meetings over.