1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:22,660 Thank you for tuning in to this 2022 primary election candidate forum for legislative District 2 00:00:22,660 --> 00:00:28,560 22, Position 2. This forum is presented by the League of Women Voters of Thurston County 3 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:35,480 in collaboration with Thurston Community Media. The League of Women Voters is proud to be nonpartisan, 4 00:00:35,480 --> 00:00:40,720 neither supporting nor opposing candidates or political parties at any level of government, 5 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:46,480 but always working on vital issues of concern to members and the public to defend our democracy 6 00:00:46,480 --> 00:00:53,360 and empower voters. I am Donna Cobb of the League, and I will be moderating this forum. 7 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:59,160 The candidates are Jessica Bateman and Kate Plager. Kevin Young is also a candidate for 8 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:04,880 this position, but he did not respond to our invitation despite multiple requests. For this 9 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:10,360 forum, each candidate will have the opportunity to answer a series of questions, and the questions 10 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:16,000 will be alternated so that each has the chance to start first. Candidates, please 11 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:20,760 let me know if you want me to repeat the question. Each candidate will have one minute 12 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:27,560 to respond. The timer will show you a sign when you have 30 seconds left, and then show 13 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:32,360 you a stop sign when your time is up. If you don't notice the sign, I'll tell you when 14 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:38,000 your time is up. You will also have the opportunity to make a one-minute closing statement. 15 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:43,720 For the first question, I will begin with Jessica Bateman. What makes you the most 16 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:48,960 qualified candidate for this position? Thank you for that question. It's been 17 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:54,680 an honor to serve as State Representative for the last year and a half. Prior to serving 18 00:01:54,680 --> 00:02:01,720 in the legislature, I served on the Olympia City Council from 2016 to 2020, both as a 19 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:08,120 City Council Member and as Deputy Mayor. During that time, I focused my work on increasing 20 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:14,240 our housing resources. The city worked very diligently to create unhoused resources 21 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:19,600 including a mitigation site. I led the campaign to pass a home fund, which is the first municipally 22 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:26,080 funded permanent supportive housing in South Puget Sound. We've since seen a real change 23 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:31,280 in how we address homelessness in the community. There's a lot more work to do, but it was 24 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:34,520 really important to get that started at the municipal level. One of the reasons 25 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:39,040 why I ran for the State Legislature in 2020 was because I wanted to take my experience 26 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:44,680 and expertise in housing and homelessness and work upstream on the actual solutions at 27 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:49,200 the state level because I had that experience working at the local level. I also served as 28 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:53,800 an Olympia Planning Commissioner before that. Thank you. Thank you. 29 00:02:53,800 --> 00:03:01,880 Kate Plager. Can you repeat the question? Of course. Sorry. What makes you the most 30 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:06,200 qualified candidate for this position? Well, I feel like I've waited my whole life 31 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:14,560 to apply for a job like this. I'm retired and I have a background in clinical psychology, 32 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:22,040 social work from the University of Washington. I ran programs, I directed programs, I managed 33 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:29,880 programs in the nonprofit and profit sector during my career. I managed staff. I was 34 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:34,960 the manager of the behavior education department on a national level where I hired, supervised 35 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:40,560 and developed staff. I worked for performance-based contracts, which means you don't get paid unless 36 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:46,760 you do the job. I've had hands-on experience with all kinds of populations, including, of 37 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:55,000 course, marginalized populations. I wrote grants and managed grants. I have had my 38 00:03:55,000 --> 00:04:00,880 pulse on the people for quite a while now in my retirement and I'm concerned about 39 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:06,200 my community. I started an organization last year called Council for Wise Leadership. 40 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:12,560 I wanted to bring together the community and have us discuss what's going on in our communities, 41 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:18,240 in our law enforcement, in our rising crime. Is it time? Yes. Okay. Thank you. Thanks. 42 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:23,600 Okay. For the second question, I will begin with you, Kate Plager. What do you think 43 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:28,760 is the most important issue in your district that the state should address? Building 44 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:34,360 a strong economy? I think that what I've been hearing from people as I go out in Doorbell 45 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:40,560 and been meeting people for a long time, people are concerned about being able to afford 46 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:47,640 filling up their gas tank. They're concerned about public safety as well, with the rising 47 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:54,720 car thefts. Car thefts have increased 88 percent. Across the state of Washington, 48 00:04:54,720 --> 00:05:04,480 there have been 12,596 cars stolen since the new laws took effect. People who are marginalized, 49 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:09,480 people who are senior citizens have had their cars stolen. They cannot replace them because 50 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:13,320 there's no more insurance left on it, so they're stuck. They have no way to get another 51 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:18,560 car. Their catalytic converters get stolen. They cannot afford to buy them. I'm concerned 52 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:24,040 about working people who are working very hard to feed their families and the criminals 53 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:28,960 seem to know what they can get away with, and so crime has increased not just in auto 54 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:34,840 thefts but everywhere else. Thank you. Jessica Bateman, what do you think 55 00:05:34,840 --> 00:05:39,960 is the most important issue in your district that the state should address? The number 56 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:45,720 one issue that I feel my constituents communicating to me about is our lack of affordable housing. 57 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:51,280 In Washington state, we are behind by a quarter of a million homes. We simply are 58 00:05:51,280 --> 00:05:55,920 not creating enough homes to keep up with our population and our job growth. We have 59 00:05:55,920 --> 00:06:00,720 people that are moving here, people that are growing up here, needing places to live, 60 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:06,840 and we've been unable to build the housing that we need for those people. In Washington, 61 00:06:06,840 --> 00:06:11,080 the way that we allow for new housing to be created is all designed and operated 62 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:15,080 at the local level. City councils make those decisions. I think that we should 63 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:20,120 be addressing it at the state level by allowing diverse housing options like 64 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:24,360 mother-in-law apartments so you can age in place so seniors can have an ADU on their 65 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:28,840 property and maybe rent that out as supplemental income as they age. Duplexes, 66 00:06:28,840 --> 00:06:34,000 triplexes, these types of housing are more affordable than typical craftsmen, single 67 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:38,120 family homes. I'm hearing from seniors on fixed incomes because of the shortage 68 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:43,120 of housing and the increased rent costs that they're struggling to get by. Thank 69 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:49,480 you. Okay, and for the third question, I'll begin with you, Jessica Bateman. 70 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:53,720 Does the state require local jurisdictions to address climate change in their 71 00:06:53,720 --> 00:07:00,320 Growth Management Act comprehensive plan updates? Climate change is going to impact 72 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:04,120 communities across Washington state. We see the evidence of climate change 73 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:10,040 already occurring with increased incidences of storms, wildfires in other 74 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:14,800 states, hurricanes, tornadoes. So it makes sense for us to ensure that our 75 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:18,880 local governments are planning for how they're going to reduce their greenhouse 76 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:22,320 gas emissions, how they're going to accommodate new housing and new 77 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:26,560 businesses in their communities, while also working to achieve reductions of 78 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:31,440 their carbon emissions. We had a bill, this legislative session, House Bill 1099 79 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:35,440 sponsored by Davina Dewar. I co-sponsored that bill. Unfortunately, we were not 80 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:38,640 able to get it through, but we will be bringing that back next year so that 81 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:42,200 we will require cities to update their comprehensive plans with climate 82 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:50,600 change. Thank you. Kate Plager, should the state require local jurisdictions to 83 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:54,320 address climate change in their Growth Management Act comprehensive plan 84 00:07:54,320 --> 00:08:06,200 updates? This is a very important issue in terms of understanding what 85 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:13,480 contributes to pollution in our world today. I'm very concerned that we 86 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:21,680 already have systems in place. We have hydropower. As long as I'm not sure 87 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:28,240 about the local jurisdiction, I'm not that experienced, but I will say that 88 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:35,240 I would want to be included in understanding how hydropower is already 89 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:40,200 utilized in our state. I'm talking about the Four Snake River dams. They provide 90 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:46,960 jobs, they provide food, they provide water, irrigation, and also flood control. 91 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:52,200 There's also the Waste to Energy facility in Spokane, Washington that's 92 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:57,760 been there for many years. They provide electricity to over 13,000 homes. So I 93 00:08:57,800 --> 00:09:05,680 have a different view on climate change and that's... Thank you. And now the fourth 94 00:09:05,680 --> 00:09:12,120 question goes to Kate Plager. How important is it to you that the state 95 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:20,720 maintain a rainy day fund in its budget? Not being really familiar with all the 96 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:26,360 budget, all the money left in the budget. I was told in my research that 97 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:30,160 there's money that hasn't been spent on programs that should have been 98 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:39,560 spent on. It's accountability, a rainy day budget. I would hope that the 99 00:09:39,560 --> 00:09:52,920 money would go for understanding how to support our already existing 100 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:59,720 systems for energy. I think that's what I would save money for. Thank you. Okay. 101 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:04,760 And Jessica Bateman? Having been a legislative assistant through our last 102 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:09,840 recession and seeing the impact of that recession on budget cuts and the 103 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:14,560 extreme measures that were taken to reduce state expenditures as a result 104 00:10:14,560 --> 00:10:18,440 of those budget cuts, it has not lost on me how important that it is to 105 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:23,600 have an adequate rainy day fund. When I ran in 2020, we thought with the results 106 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:26,480 of COVID, we didn't know what the budget was going to look like. And the Office 107 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:30,600 of Financial Management asks state agencies to provide estimates of 15% 108 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:35,240 cuts across the board. And if you look at what those draft cuts were, they 109 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:39,120 were programs for the most vulnerable individuals in our communities, 110 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:43,000 individuals with developmental disabilities, low income moms. This 111 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:46,120 is not the time for us to, especially now, thinking about a 112 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:51,600 potential recession, to not have an adequate, robust rainy day fund. Thank you. 113 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:57,160 Okay. And the fifth question goes to Jessica Bateman. What is your opinion 114 00:10:57,160 --> 00:11:02,160 on how the governor used his emergency powers during the pandemic? You know, I 115 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:06,680 think it's an unprecedented public health emergency that we have not had a 116 00:11:06,680 --> 00:11:12,360 lot of experience in. However, going forward, I think that we need to be 117 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:15,800 thinking about how we would handle a situation like this in the future. 118 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:19,040 I think that he did the best that he could do considering the circumstances. 119 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:22,760 And when we're in a crisis, we need to ensure that we're able to make 120 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:28,040 decisions quickly, effectively, and at the state level that comes from the 121 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:31,880 governor's office. We're doing things like planning for the future, 122 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:34,960 especially for our long-term care facilities who are dramatically 123 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:39,120 impacted by what happened during COVID, to ensure that when we move 124 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:43,240 forward, when we have other public health emergencies, we have plans 125 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:46,680 and operations for how they're actually going to provide their services 126 00:11:46,680 --> 00:11:50,800 and ensure that residents have those the rights that they're entitled to. 127 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:54,360 And I think similarly with the emergency powers, we should look into 128 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:57,320 how we can ensure in the future that we can have a clear, consistent 129 00:11:57,320 --> 00:12:03,040 path for the utilization of those powers. Thank you. And Kate Plager, 130 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:06,720 what is your opinion on how the governor used his emergency powers 131 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:11,280 during the pandemic? I think in the beginning, it was appropriate. 132 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:15,760 No one knew what was really happening with the outbreak and the pandemic. 133 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:21,320 However, after a while, I felt that it was shut. 134 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:25,680 He shut, he kept the state shut down. He stopped businesses. 135 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:31,520 I didn't feel, and I've been hearing this, not just myself, 136 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:36,400 but a number of people that I have spoken to, they want those powers 137 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:39,680 to stop. And what I'm hearing is that they want a 30-day limit put 138 00:12:39,680 --> 00:12:42,040 on the governor's emergency powers. 139 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:48,720 Thank you. And Kate Plager, here is the third and final question. 140 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:53,800 In light of current events, do you believe that there are any threats 141 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:58,160 to our system of democracy? And if so, what are those threats? 142 00:12:59,680 --> 00:13:02,880 Can you repeat that, please? Sure. 143 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:06,720 In light of current events, do you believe there are any threats 144 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:10,440 to our democracy? And if so, what are those threats? 145 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:33,480 Well, I have so many concerns about it. I don't even know where to begin. 146 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:42,040 The threats could be that we lose our rights, 147 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:45,680 that we... 148 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:58,200 Well, even the Roe vs. Wade decision, there are people who are upset 149 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:03,720 about that and concerned. There was some concern across the nation 150 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:13,000 about rioting and things like that. So I would say that losing our 151 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:16,080 democracy, I mean, everyone should have a point of view. 152 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:19,880 And we shouldn't hate each other because we have different points of 153 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:25,040 view. I think that's one way to not lose our democracy, not to be extreme. 154 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:32,520 Thank you. And Jessica Bateman, would you like me to repeat the question? 155 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:39,600 No, I have a lot of concerns about our democracy, both in terms of the 156 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:43,880 massive proliferation of lies, including the big lie that our 157 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:47,920 presidential election was not valid, which is completely untrue and 158 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:51,880 fabricated. The effort in the attempt to decertify the 159 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:55,680 duly elected president of the United States, the attack on our nation's 160 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:59,200 capital, armed intimidation of voters at voting booths. 161 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:06,320 Secretaries of state being pressured across the country to change the results of the election, 162 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:12,960 public servants being threatened, being found at their homes being threatened. I think that 163 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:19,320 all of this and the environment that we're in can create questions about the legitimacy 164 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:23,080 of our state institutions, our government institutions, and it's essential that people 165 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:28,400 have confidence in those systems. And we have that proliferation of these lies and conspiracy 166 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:33,920 theories, it does chip away at that belief in that system. And most recently with legitimacy 167 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:37,920 of the Supreme Court who just took away the right of women in the United States and people 168 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:42,880 who can become pregnant to make their own decisions about their bodily autonomy. I have a lot 169 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:47,920 of concerns. Thank you. Thank you. Okay, so you now each have one minute for a closing 170 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:53,120 statement beginning with Jessica Bateman. Thank you. During my first term, we've worked 171 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:57,760 together to solve our greatest challenges, fair and sustainable tax reform, equitable 172 00:15:57,760 --> 00:16:02,660 health care for all, protecting our environment and addressing our housing crisis. It is an 173 00:16:02,660 --> 00:16:06,640 honor to serve as your state representative and I ask for your support so I can continue 174 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:11,440 this work helping working families, our most vulnerable and our seniors to ensure that 175 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:15,640 we all have the opportunity to thrive. If you'd like to learn more about me or my 176 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:22,640 campaign, please visit votejessicabateman.com. Thank you. Kate Plager, you have one 177 00:16:22,660 --> 00:16:28,420 minute for a closing statement. I'm not a politician. I never thought I'd be running 178 00:16:28,420 --> 00:16:33,840 for public office, but I have to say that I have been pulled into this race because 179 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:39,080 a number of my friends have asked me to run. They knew I went into retirement. They know 180 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:45,580 that I can do the job. They asked me to stand up to the plate. I'm concerned about 181 00:16:45,580 --> 00:16:49,560 our public safety. I'm concerned about our law enforcement having been crippled 182 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:55,320 the past couple of years. I disagree that they should be defunded. I will wholeheartedly 183 00:16:55,320 --> 00:17:02,320 support first responders, law enforcement and also in building a strong economy. I have 184 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:08,400 numerous people talk to me about inflation and that they can't afford to fill their 185 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:13,280 gas tank. One person said it cost $170 to fill his gas tank and last year it was 186 00:17:13,360 --> 00:17:20,360 half of that. As a representative, I will pull the people to find out what it is that 187 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:30,920 they want because as a representative I need to understand and I would hold community 188 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:36,800 forums on a regular basis to pull and try to understand what they want. 189 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:43,120 Thank you. Thank you, Jessica Bateman and Kate Plager for participating in this forum. 190 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:48,920 We thank TC Media for producing it. Ballots will be mailed July 13th and must be mailed 191 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:55,360 or placed in a ballot box by 8 p.m. on August 2nd. You can register to vote online through 192 00:17:55,360 --> 00:18:02,360 July 25th at vote.wa.gov and in person until 8 p.m. on August 2nd at the Thurston County 193 00:18:04,360 --> 00:18:11,360 Auditors Office. We encourage viewers to be a voter in the primary election. Thank 194 00:18:13,120 --> 00:18:15,360 you.