1 00:00:00,960 --> 00:00:05,359 like that. >> Yeah, 2 00:00:03,280 --> 00:00:12,679 » I think it's just about that time. 3 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:12,679 » Few more seconds. 4 00:00:13,519 --> 00:00:17,799 » Yeah. Anyway, 5 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:25,920 say uh welcome to the joint meeting of the boardman and the budget committee 6 00:00:23,279 --> 00:00:30,880 for the town of Wyman. They all want to salute the 7 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:36,719 Thank you. I aliance to the flag of the United 8 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:42,879 States of America and to the republic for it stands. One nation under God, 9 00:00:40,239 --> 00:00:47,719 indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. 10 00:00:44,480 --> 00:00:47,719 » Thank you. 11 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:54,079 We have uh it's been a while since I've been on one 12 00:00:52,559 --> 00:00:59,039 of these. So, >> this is the whole year at least. Uh, I 13 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:04,159 have a few little housekeeping items that I'd like to say is I I would like I 14 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:09,680 would like everybody to be able to be heard, whatever they have to say. Um, I 15 00:01:07,439 --> 00:01:14,479 like it if only one of us talked at at the same time. If we could do that, then 16 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:17,759 I'm cool. And I wanted to know how you would like to proceed 17 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:23,200 with this meeting. >> Down. Um, the budget committee met, they 18 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:28,240 voted on most items. Um, so I was going to start off with the very beginning uh 19 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:32,560 for the select board and then if the budget committee hasn't voted, I would 20 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:33,920 weigh in on that. Um, and that's how I was going to proceed. 21 00:01:33,439 --> 00:01:36,320 » Okay. >> Same as usual. 22 00:01:34,799 --> 00:01:37,759 » Sounds like a plan. >> Hey, 23 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:43,920 » thank you. >> So for salaries and benefits 24 00:01:40,960 --> 00:01:50,920 1272559 on budget committee voted 41. What say 25 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:50,920 you select for? 26 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:57,920 It's a total of the salaries and benefits. 27 00:01:55,600 --> 00:02:06,719 » All right. >> Well, is 28 00:02:00,799 --> 00:02:11,520 page seven. So, there's a total of page four and then on page seven, you have 29 00:02:09,920 --> 00:02:15,200 those two together and that gives you a warrant article. 30 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:19,640 » What was the total together? >> 272 559. 31 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:33,760 So first time. So we don't vote because it's a workshop, right? Okay. 32 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:40,400 » No, this is a meeting. >> This is our meeting. 33 00:02:36,879 --> 00:02:46,400 » You vote. They already did their vote. >> So I'm asking you guys your 34 00:02:43,519 --> 00:02:51,360 » your um pleasure. I'll make a motion to accept the 1 million272559 35 00:02:49,599 --> 00:02:54,800 » second. >> Any discussion? 36 00:02:53,680 --> 00:03:02,080 » Yes. >> If I could. 37 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:05,760 This is a slap in the face. And I'm not going to make any friends 38 00:03:03,920 --> 00:03:09,599 saying this, but this is a slap in the face. 39 00:03:07,599 --> 00:03:15,000 In the real world, if you work less hours, you don't work more money. 40 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:24,080 I sat here last year and then a town meeting and all I heard was our 41 00:03:21,920 --> 00:03:32,480 employees are overworked. We need to hire more help. And we did. 42 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:37,120 And now apparently there's not enough work because we're going to reduce the 43 00:03:34,799 --> 00:03:42,959 amount of hours that they work and we're going to pay them more to do that. Plus, 44 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:46,319 we're going to build a new town hall to give them a place to do this less 45 00:03:44,799 --> 00:03:53,680 work. So, we either need less employees 46 00:03:50,159 --> 00:03:59,680 or less pay. I'm 60 years old. I still go out and 47 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:03,920 pound nails every day, whether it's hot, cold, whatever. 48 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:08,400 and to watch my property taxes go up again 49 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:12,959 so that to to to pay this these inflated 50 00:04:10,879 --> 00:04:18,799 salaries. I I've been hearing it from so many 51 00:04:15,519 --> 00:04:22,000 people. They cannot believe number one that we've cut the hours and 52 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:25,560 number two that we're going to increase everybody's pay. 53 00:04:25,919 --> 00:04:34,160 If it was up to me, which it's not, I would make the town hall hours Thursday, 54 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:38,560 Friday, and Saturday, have all our employees be part-time with no benefits. 55 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:44,560 But I'm not going to have that. You know, nobody's going to probably support 56 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:49,440 me on that. But this to me is a slap in the face to every person that pays taxes 57 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:53,199 in this town. >> My opinion only. 58 00:04:50,479 --> 00:04:59,040 » Okay. I think a lot of what you just said to me is kind of a slap in the face 59 00:04:55,199 --> 00:05:05,040 to our employees in a sense. Are you here day in and day out and seeing what 60 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:09,600 they do? Um, we made a decision based on the fact 61 00:05:07,840 --> 00:05:14,880 that we were actually losing good employees to other towns because we 62 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:19,680 weren't keeping up. And part of the incentive to make a better work life 63 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:24,160 balance was to close on Fridays. It's not because they don't have enough work 64 00:05:21,919 --> 00:05:30,880 for Fridays. It's because we were we were looking for ways to be creative 65 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:36,000 with our town manager to uh be able to keep the employees that we have because 66 00:05:33,280 --> 00:05:40,880 they're good employees and we wanted to retain them. And so you can look at it 67 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:47,560 that way. I understand your point very much. 68 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:47,560 But that's not that's not the case. 69 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:54,479 » Sorry. Well, I'll second that because we cut the hours so we could pay them more 70 00:05:51,919 --> 00:05:57,600 without taking out of the funds. So, that was the way that we could give 71 00:05:55,759 --> 00:06:02,000 people what they needed to be competitive. Having people coming in and 72 00:05:59,919 --> 00:06:05,600 out, it doesn't do anything for us. That's my opinion. I'm I'm happy with I 73 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:10,080 was happy with my vote and going for this. But this vote on the salary is not 74 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:14,400 We've already done that. We can still talk about it, but this vote is for the 75 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:17,840 COLA increase. Is that right? No, this is for 76 00:06:15,840 --> 00:06:21,600 » this is for your budget for next year. >> No, I know. But I thought we had already 77 00:06:19,280 --> 00:06:25,039 changed the hours as well as the hourly. >> We did. Okay. 78 00:06:23,919 --> 00:06:28,479 » But I'm just going to say that I was very comfortable in making that 79 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:33,120 decision. >> I agree with my colleagues that the 80 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:39,199 reason why we went in the direction of closing on Fridays was for uh the sake 81 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:44,600 of being more competitive with the other uh communities around us. 82 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:44,600 Um 83 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:53,280 it is difficult to find uh good help and once you do find them do your best to 84 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:56,319 retain them. And I think this is the method uh that we're employing to do 85 00:06:55,120 --> 00:07:00,639 just that. >> It's not a win-win situation. Something 86 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:06,400 had to come off and it was ours. But I feel good about giving the books what 87 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:14,800 they needed so we could keep them. >> David, I agree with the select board. 88 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:22,560 Although I do respect the opinion, um I believe it should be approved. 89 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:26,800 » Okay. Do anybody else have anything to add to that? 90 00:07:25,039 --> 00:07:32,080 » Did you all get the handout where it showed the median? Okay. 91 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:35,840 » I agree with you all. I think at face value it looks like they're getting paid 92 00:07:33,599 --> 00:07:40,080 more for doing less. But when you look at the bigger picture from a management 93 00:07:37,759 --> 00:07:44,400 perspective, I think bringing them up to the medium that's competitive with the, 94 00:07:42,639 --> 00:07:48,720 you know, the surrounding towns was the right thing to do. 95 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:53,360 » Is there any more discussion by the select board? 96 00:07:51,599 --> 00:07:55,520 All those in favor? I >> I 97 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:58,520 » David >> I 98 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:08,720 the vote. >> Okay. General admin. 99 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:12,280 Um, page 13. 100 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:26,599 The amount of 207842. 101 00:08:29,199 --> 00:08:35,599 » Make a motion to accept general admin 207842. 102 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:39,599 » Second. It's moved and seconded. Is there any discussion on that? 103 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:41,680 David Elves, do you have any discussion on that? 104 00:08:40,399 --> 00:08:46,880 » No. >> Anyone? 105 00:08:44,399 --> 00:08:50,640 I'm not hearing any. All those in favor? >> I. David Elves. 106 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:55,440 » I. >> It's unanimous to the four of us that 107 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:59,360 are here. >> Page 14. 108 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:05,200 » Elections. >> Elections in the amount of 11,300. 109 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:08,600 Budget committee voted 5. What's you select board? 110 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:14,080 » Move that we approve the amount of of 11,300 111 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:18,640 for elections. >> Second. 112 00:09:15,839 --> 00:09:21,600 » Any discussion? David, do you have any discussion? 113 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:26,720 » No. >> Anybody have any comments? 114 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:32,519 » All those in favor? I. >> David Alves. I It's 115 00:09:29,519 --> 00:09:32,519 » unanimous. 116 00:09:32,959 --> 00:09:42,880 Page 15, the very first line, general admin insurance 34,660. 117 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:48,480 Budget committee voted 50. What says left for it? 118 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:52,640 » Make a motion to accept the 34660 for general admin insurance services. 119 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:55,959 » Second. >> Any discussion? 120 00:09:56,800 --> 00:10:05,360 » You have any any discussion, Dave? >> No. Hello. Anybody else got anything to 121 00:10:01,839 --> 00:10:08,480 comment on that? All those in favor? I. David L. 122 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:11,480 » I. Unanimous. 123 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:22,880 » Page 16. Animal welfare. $8,85. 124 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:29,560 Budget committee vote 5 contingency. >> Oh, I'm looking at the new one. 125 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:29,560 » You said zero. 126 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:37,760 Hi. >> You're doing You're doing fine. 127 00:10:34,079 --> 00:10:42,720 » Okay. Animal welfare $8,85. Budget committee voted 5. Let's say the 128 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:48,079 select board. >> Move that we approve the amount of $8,85 129 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:51,760 for animal welfare. >> Second. 130 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:56,399 » Any discussion? >> No. 131 00:10:54,480 --> 00:11:01,519 » Any discussion here? I guess you guys already voted. I'm just asking anyway 132 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:05,920 because I'm being polite and I want to hear what people's opinion. So, um 133 00:11:03,839 --> 00:11:09,200 anyway, all those in favor >> I. David LS 134 00:11:08,079 --> 00:11:13,920 » I. >> That's unanimous. 135 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:21,440 » Right in the middle of that page, Health and Human Services, $2,400. Budget 136 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:27,000 committee vote 5. What say board? >> Make a motion to accept 2400 for health 137 00:11:23,519 --> 00:11:27,000 and human services. 138 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:36,399 Second >> moved and seconded. Any discussion? 139 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:42,320 » Yes. Just uh I think we still should have made a contribution to life flight 140 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:48,800 and to caring unlimited as we have particularly to life flight in years 141 00:11:44,399 --> 00:11:55,760 past. Just my opinion on that. >> Any more discussion? 142 00:11:51,360 --> 00:12:01,519 All those in favor? I. David Elves >> I. 143 00:11:56,720 --> 00:12:05,640 » All those opposed one three to one. >> Okay. Change 144 00:12:05,680 --> 00:12:10,880 18 roads 145 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:15,120 856436. Ready committee voted 5. What states 146 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:21,399 look for? for the amount of 8,500 147 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:21,399 uh 856,436. 148 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:33,360 » Second, >> it's moved and seconded. Any discussion? 149 00:12:32,079 --> 00:12:36,880 » No, >> that was the desert Brooks or something 150 00:12:36,639 --> 00:12:40,519 out. >> We took it out. Yeah. 151 00:12:40,560 --> 00:12:46,880 » All right. I'm hearing none. All those in favor? I 152 00:12:45,680 --> 00:12:52,040 » David elves >> I 153 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:52,040 » motion carries unanimously. 154 00:12:57,839 --> 00:13:03,720 » Page 27 buildings and grounds 155 00:13:10,079 --> 00:13:22,000 854417. Budget Committee voted 50. What state? 156 00:13:17,519 --> 00:13:27,839 » Move that the amount of $854,417 be approved for buildings and grounds. 157 00:13:26,639 --> 00:13:31,519 » Second. >> It's moved and seconded. Any discussion? 158 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:35,040 » Sorry, what was the change? Because it actually went down a thousand and I 159 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:38,360 can't remember anybody remember. 160 00:13:43,279 --> 00:13:46,839 I still don't remember. 161 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:56,040 » Any more discussion? 162 00:13:56,800 --> 00:14:01,600 » All those in favor? >> I David Alves. 163 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:04,600 » Hi. It's >> unanimous. 164 00:14:07,279 --> 00:14:12,360 Page 30, transfer station 165 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:18,399 » B7715. >> I'm trying to get through. 166 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:23,880 » Sorry, >> my thumb. My paper. 167 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:40,120 I'll move to accept 377,715 for transfer station. Second. 168 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:40,120 » Any discussion. 169 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:44,320 » All those in favor? >> I. 170 00:14:43,199 --> 00:14:47,320 » David Elves. >> I. 171 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:58,079 » Page 31, parks and wreck 11595. 172 00:14:54,800 --> 00:15:03,600 Budget committee voted 5. What says left forward? I move that we 173 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:08,000 approve the amount of $11,595 for parks and wreck. 174 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:13,600 » Second. >> Any discussion? 175 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:16,639 Any comments from anybody? >> Sorry. Am I looking at this wrong? It 176 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:21,279 looks like the 370. Sorry, never mind. Just looking at this. I should be 177 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:29,079 looking at this. No, no discussion. All >> those in favor? I. 178 00:15:23,839 --> 00:15:29,079 » David Elves. I unanimous. 179 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:41,279 reserves computer 7500 budget committee voted 50 what say for 180 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:45,680 » move we approve the amount of $7,500 for your reserve account or computer 181 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:49,279 » second >> it's moved and seconded is there any 182 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:51,759 discussion those in favor 183 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:55,920 » I >> I David elves 184 00:15:53,440 --> 00:16:00,079 » I unanimous 185 00:15:57,759 --> 00:16:06,639 » transfers station compact reserve $7,500. 186 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:13,759 Budget committee vote is 50. What say? >> Move the we approve the amount of $7,500 187 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:17,440 for the compactor reserve account. >> Second. 188 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:24,480 » Moved and seconded. Is there any discussion on that? 189 00:16:20,399 --> 00:16:26,639 Hearing none. All those in favor? I. >> David, 190 00:16:25,519 --> 00:16:31,880 » I'm sorry. >> It's okay. You're good. That's 191 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:31,880 unanimous, too. 192 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:41,360 » Okay. Town Hall reserves, $100,000. Uh, budget committee voted 320. Let's 193 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:45,920 say the slide board. >> What page is that on? Sorry. 194 00:16:43,759 --> 00:16:51,800 » 32 at the top. >> Oh, no. They're looking at the wrong 195 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:51,800 page. I'm like, what? 196 00:16:53,279 --> 00:17:02,079 » What was our recommendation? >> 320. 197 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:05,199 We voted yes. She voted no. Move 198 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:08,000 » to accept 100,000 for reserves town hall. 199 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:11,439 » 100,000. >> Second. 200 00:17:09,919 --> 00:17:14,000 » All right. It's moved and seconded. Any discussion? 201 00:17:12,319 --> 00:17:18,959 » Yeah. Someone refresh my me. >> I'd like to know what the budget 202 00:17:15,360 --> 00:17:23,520 committee number was that we discussed rather than 100,000. 203 00:17:20,559 --> 00:17:27,120 » You voted the 100,000 >> 3 to two, 204 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:33,600 » but there was obviously a recommendation that was different. I had a split vote. 205 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:36,600 » I I I have zero in my sheet soup. >> Okay. 206 00:17:39,679 --> 00:17:45,760 » Sorry. What did that cover again? I'm sorry. 207 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:47,039 » That's the the town hall expansion. >> Thank you. 208 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:51,919 » Yeah. >> Okay. 209 00:17:49,039 --> 00:17:55,120 » Any more discussion? >> All those in favor? I 210 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:57,919 » I >> David Elves 211 00:17:56,320 --> 00:18:01,480 » I >> motion carries. 212 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:09,280 » Good. >> Uh revaluation reserve 38,000 213 00:18:06,559 --> 00:18:13,679 budget committee voted 32. Let's say the select board 214 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:22,640 » move we approve the amount of $38,000 for the reval in reserve account. 215 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:27,039 » Second. It's moved and seconded. Is there any discussion? 216 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:31,840 » Would you like to have a discussion? >> Are you Would you like to discuss? 217 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:37,200 » Yeah. I I I don't think there's enough money there. Uh it's it's going to cost 218 00:18:34,799 --> 00:18:42,080 probably about 350,000. We've got like four years to go and 219 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:45,039 there's I don't know what's in them. What's in it now? 220 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:48,400 » 150,000 >> as of December 30th. 221 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:54,320 150,000. >> Okay. So, we're going to add 38. So 222 00:18:50,400 --> 00:19:00,960 that's 180. That leaves us with like 300 like another what 150 200,000 223 00:18:57,760 --> 00:19:04,640 to make up in two three years. >> I don't think the prices of these are 224 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:08,480 going to go down any in that time frame. >> We need more money. 225 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:11,200 I just we're going to end up hitting it at the end, but we're going to whack it 226 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:14,400 at the end. But >> I'm just saying I don't believe there's 227 00:19:13,039 --> 00:19:16,320 enough money in there to cover the rebound. 228 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:18,960 » Do you think that's why the vault went down three to two on? 229 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:21,280 » Yes. because two of us thought we didn't have enough money. 230 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:23,039 » What was the number that you guys were thinking? 231 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:26,039 » 50 >> 50,000. 232 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:31,400 » Well, hearing that 233 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:36,559 » you don't want to have to pay for it all at once a year 234 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:39,679 » because then it hurts more when it's >> Well, we have the motion moved and 235 00:19:37,919 --> 00:19:43,840 seconded and we're discussing it. So, we still have to vote this one way or the 236 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:49,280 other. My personal opinion is I'm going to let 237 00:19:46,559 --> 00:19:55,360 it ride for this year despite the the uh what was brought up. 238 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:59,000 I get that. But uh you all can have fun with this next year. 239 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:10,160 » Wait, is there any more discussion? >> Just with the uh 38 grand, I would uh 240 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:13,120 increase the balance to about 188,000. So if you 241 00:20:11,120 --> 00:20:16,320 » got to get to 350 in two years. >> Well, says here 300,000. 242 00:20:15,679 --> 00:20:20,559 » What's that? >> The estimate 243 00:20:17,360 --> 00:20:22,080 » it was 250 last time eight years ago. >> What do you think it's going to be next 244 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:25,679 time? >> Well, we're just I'm just looking at 245 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:30,400 » Well, we have our paperwork. What the paperwork says is estimated at 300,000 246 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:36,720 which was previously estimated at 200,000 and we're in year five of 10. 247 00:20:33,919 --> 00:20:42,280 Mhm. >> Just for the people at home that don't 248 00:20:38,159 --> 00:20:42,280 have this to follow along with. 249 00:20:43,919 --> 00:20:52,559 » So, >> so we'll be short of 122,000 250 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:57,679 over the course of four years. So, we may have to increase it to maybe 50,000 251 00:20:55,039 --> 00:21:02,159 in the subsequent years, but uh I'd be inclined to go with the 38 for now. Hold 252 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:05,360 » on. Is there any more discussion on that? 253 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:10,000 No >> hearing n then all those in favor I 254 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:12,320 » I >> David 255 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:15,600 » I >> anyone who's anyone opposed 256 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:19,000 it's >> three to one 257 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:23,240 motion carries 258 00:21:25,120 --> 00:21:35,280 okay comprehensive plan reserve account it's new uh we originally put in 10,000 259 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:41,320 budget committee recommended 5,000 with a 41 vote. Let's see the board. 260 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:46,880 » Um, >> okay. 261 00:21:43,679 --> 00:21:51,960 » What What was the reasoning for a different number than what were you 262 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:51,960 recommended? 263 00:21:53,360 --> 00:22:01,280 » I think this it was the comprehensive plan committee or both. 264 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:05,919 » This is the comprehensive plan reserve account. Yeah. How much is in it now? 265 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:08,720 » It's new. >> There's nothing in it. 266 00:22:07,360 --> 00:22:12,159 » Yeah. >> Yeah. We just felt that we weren't going 267 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:17,360 to need that much. >> We you I think you've already paid a 268 00:22:13,919 --> 00:22:22,240 bunch for the for the planning people. >> Yeah. 269 00:22:18,799 --> 00:22:26,720 » Behind it was typically you do comp plan revisions every 10 years or so, give or 270 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:31,919 take, and other towns spend about anywhere from 100 to $200,000. 271 00:22:30,159 --> 00:22:36,799 So, your comprehensive plan committee has been putting in a lot of work and 272 00:22:34,159 --> 00:22:41,520 SNPDC has been working with us as well to try to keep the cost down. Um, but in 273 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:45,039 reality, it's a lot of work. >> Do we know Do we have any idea what it's 274 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:49,679 going to cost us this year? >> Probably half like it's probably going 275 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:53,280 to be like 50,000 given. >> Well, we get 10 years to go at 50 grand. 276 00:22:51,919 --> 00:22:58,360 That's >> guaranteed. It's going to be 50. 277 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:58,360 » That was that was our point. 278 00:22:59,679 --> 00:23:06,000 and they came to the board and they said, "This is a lot of work. You need 279 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:11,039 professionals to do this." Um, so in 10 years, 10,000 every year you get to h 280 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:16,640 100,000 that's what other communities are paying 100,000 upwards of $200,000. 281 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:20,080 » The reason the reason I believe that we're that a lot of people are paying 282 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:23,760 that now is because the states made a lot of rule changes. The last time we 283 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:27,440 did a comprehensive plan committee, I don't know, were you on the plan on the 284 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:31,600 committee? Somebody was tough. They they spent like 10 grand the last time. 285 00:23:31,039 --> 00:23:34,400 » Yeah. >> This time there's a lot of different 286 00:23:33,120 --> 00:23:37,520 things that >> Yeah. There's a lot different laws that 287 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:41,360 have been changed and >> do we think in the next 10 years there's 288 00:23:39,039 --> 00:23:44,080 going to be a lot more different laws? >> I don't know. 289 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:48,480 » That's our opinion anyway. >> Okay. One at a time, please. Yes. 290 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:52,960 » I'll point out that Lyman does not have an approved comprehensive plan by the 291 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:56,640 state. like you might have spent $10,000 and approved a comprehensive plan by the 292 00:23:54,880 --> 00:24:01,280 voters, but it hasn't gone through the state level. So, you kind of miss 293 00:23:59,039 --> 00:24:06,080 opportunities for grants or certain revenue sharing um because it never went 294 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:09,200 through the state level to get. >> Well, that's what we're doing now. I 295 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:13,360 assume that's why we're going to spend all this money this time, but we're 296 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:16,320 going to already have one approved by the state 297 00:24:15,039 --> 00:24:19,520 » the next time. And we're just going to have to update it. 298 00:24:18,159 --> 00:24:23,760 » You think it's going to cost 100 grand to update it? Go ahead. 299 00:24:21,360 --> 00:24:28,480 » We jumped ahead of this a little bit. We didn't move and second it for our amount 300 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:35,679 or not. Um because I wanted to know what the dis the discussion about the 301 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:38,240 difference. So um based on on that um I'll entertain a motion for either 302 00:24:37,360 --> 00:24:43,520 number. >> I I'll make a motion for $10,000 for the 303 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:47,840 comprehensive plan. >> Second. 304 00:24:45,279 --> 00:24:51,600 » No. Is there any more discussion? This is kind of a side question because 305 00:24:49,919 --> 00:24:55,120 uh at the end of the decade we also have to do the um charter. So will some of 306 00:24:53,679 --> 00:24:57,440 that money be able to be used if we don't use it? 307 00:24:55,600 --> 00:25:03,440 » I think there's separate >> separate separate that was deal. 308 00:25:01,279 --> 00:25:09,600 » Thank you. And just uh for clarification, when we 309 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:16,080 get to outsource general ad admin, uh we've got I think 14,000 set aside for 310 00:25:12,559 --> 00:25:19,440 the uh comprehensive plan um contract with the SNPDC for what's going on right 311 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:22,720 now. >> Yeah. For the current one. Yeah. 312 00:25:20,799 --> 00:25:27,520 » Right. But this is for the future. >> That's right. Okay. 313 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:33,600 » So, this is on the table for $10,000. All those in favor? I I 314 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:36,760 » David Alves. I >> it's unanimous. 315 00:25:37,679 --> 00:25:46,799 » Ordinance review. We discussed $5,000. Budget committee recommended $2500 316 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:51,159 in a 41 vote. >> Did we jump over? 317 00:25:48,159 --> 00:25:51,159 » Yeah. 318 00:25:51,279 --> 00:26:00,279 » Is capital improvement next? >> Yeah. I thought it was 319 00:25:56,159 --> 00:26:00,279 » Yeah. Is that on plan? 320 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:07,279 So, you need to be down here. >> Yeah, this is this is where we were. 321 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:08,880 » Comprehensive plan or not review. That's what I just said. 322 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:12,240 » Okay. Thank you. >> Page one. 323 00:26:10,159 --> 00:26:14,559 » I'll make I'll make a motion. >> It doesn't follow. 324 00:26:13,679 --> 00:26:17,039 » Okay. >> So, over here, that's where I am. 325 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:18,720 » Okay. >> Sorry. 326 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:23,279 » No problem. >> I'll make a motion to approve $5,000 for 327 00:26:21,120 --> 00:26:28,080 the ordinance review. >> Second. 328 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:32,640 » I don't see discussion. >> I wasn't here. What is that? 329 00:26:30,559 --> 00:26:37,279 Oh, >> dash. 330 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:39,919 » Okay. Thank you. >> Um, 331 00:26:38,559 --> 00:26:44,480 » sorry, I wasn't here that day, but I got a refresher of what that was for 5,000. 332 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:49,600 » The bottom, we're at the bottom of towards the bottom of page 32 333 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:52,960 ordinance review, which is a new >> Mhm. 334 00:26:50,159 --> 00:26:58,799 » It's $5,000. The budget committee voted uh 2500 335 00:26:55,760 --> 00:27:03,279 » to, I believe, to set money aside. Once again, Southern Bane Planning to help 336 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:09,880 with revision of the uh >> because of all those new laws just like 337 00:27:05,120 --> 00:27:09,880 the comprehensive plan stuff. 338 00:27:11,360 --> 00:27:17,600 » So, we're moved and seconded and discussing. 339 00:27:15,679 --> 00:27:21,679 Um, is there any more discussion? 340 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:23,600 » No. >> All those in favor? 341 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:26,559 » I >> I David Alves 342 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:33,039 » I. >> It's a motion. It's carries unanimously. 343 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:40,000 » Okay. Facilities equipment reserve which is also new. We discussed 10,000 budget 344 00:27:37,039 --> 00:27:43,000 committee recommending zero in a 50 vote. 345 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:49,279 » Move to accept the 10,000 for facilities equipment reserve. 346 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:55,120 » Second. >> Okay. This is what we did when we were 347 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:58,880 talking about a piece of equipment that was in the budget and we removed that 348 00:27:56,720 --> 00:28:04,720 piece of equipment and said we would start this. Um, 349 00:28:02,799 --> 00:28:11,919 I know you got to start somewhere and this person probably needs some we we 350 00:28:07,679 --> 00:28:18,000 out with safe things for them to do their job. Um, this 351 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:23,279 person to do his job also. I know um there's a lot of disagreement 352 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:29,360 necessarily about it. Uh I think there's also 353 00:28:26,159 --> 00:28:34,240 you got to realize too that the uh the town is growing. It's changing. There's 354 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:40,480 more people. We have that bung. We've been as a priority. This is a thing uh 355 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:46,640 that we're starting. This is the first year with this employee. Um, I think 356 00:28:43,919 --> 00:28:50,720 it's going good and it's really something that 357 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:56,159 you you save for the future even though there's not an exact clear vision 358 00:28:54,320 --> 00:29:02,000 exactly where that is because it's fluid. 359 00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:07,679 It's it's in its infancy infancy stages even if I can't say that. And um so 360 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:12,720 instead of buying that we thought we would start this and uh and see where it 361 00:29:10,399 --> 00:29:16,880 goes. And so that 10,000 is on is in our 362 00:29:15,679 --> 00:29:20,000 motion >> in our opinion or 363 00:29:18,159 --> 00:29:26,640 » I I do >> uh here again this it doesn't seem to be 364 00:29:24,159 --> 00:29:31,760 a plan. I I I listened to you guys when you were talking and you said you wanted 365 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:37,279 to buy piece of equipment to be used by one of our employees and it'll be used 366 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:41,840 for various things. Okay. I heard one of you say you needed one that would lift 367 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:47,039 2,000 pounds. A piece of equipment that'll lift 2,000 lbs is going to cost 368 00:29:43,919 --> 00:29:51,600 you 60 plus grand, maybe more. That's that's not including 369 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:55,200 any extra attachments you put on. Good. >> Now you have it. Are you going to only 370 00:29:53,679 --> 00:29:58,320 use it in one location or you're going to want to move it around? Then you're 371 00:29:56,640 --> 00:30:01,279 going to need a trailer. Then you're going to need a truck big enough to haul 372 00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:04,159 the trailer. So >> did I 373 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:08,799 » That 60,000 is going to turn into 200,000 before we go too far. 374 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:16,240 » This is what I say. You need to have a plan. Well, a plan that can be a plan, 375 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:22,799 but if you're kind of fluid, you don't really know what's going on yet, how can 376 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:27,919 you have a plan, a a rigid plan? >> We talked about we talked about a lot of 377 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:33,520 things that night. And um also what was brought up too is 378 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:37,360 instead of that tractor would would be mowing equipment, larger mowing 379 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:41,039 equipment and have that person do some of the mowing which would take some some 380 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:44,559 of the mowing money out of the budget. >> But but you still got to buy the 381 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:48,159 equipment and buy the equipment to move it with and by the time you 382 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:52,320 » doesn't necessarily mean you're going to move it. 383 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:55,679 » It's much cheaper to contract it out. >> Okay. My point to this is you already 384 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:59,919 have a tractor that's sitting up there that you were using four days a week and 385 00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:03,039 the rest of the time it just sits there. That's what we put $25,000 in painting 386 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:10,559 tractor. >> I I brought that up in in our discussion 387 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:13,600 and um that's when we discussed that it could be a piece of mowing equipment. 388 00:31:11,919 --> 00:31:17,039 It's like I said, we it's not really fluid yet, but we're starting to think 389 00:31:15,279 --> 00:31:22,080 about that. So, if you want to put some money away, 390 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:25,520 you either do or you don't. that you want to 391 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:30,159 » I I I agree with Ken on that point. I I mean that uh the machine up on the hill 392 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:34,559 should be utilized. >> I agree. 393 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:40,000 » Um but either way that I believe that there should be a reserve set aside for 394 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:48,000 future decisions so so that we don't have to uh be surprised and have to put 395 00:31:43,519 --> 00:31:52,159 $50,000 all up at 160 70 whatever it is. The nice thing about that piece of 396 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:58,240 equipment also is that it it can be driven on the road to get from job to or 397 00:31:55,600 --> 00:32:01,039 place to place where it needs to be used >> instead of having to haul it. 398 00:31:59,519 --> 00:32:05,120 » And I think part of the hesitation to have any better of a plan is because the 399 00:32:03,039 --> 00:32:08,159 department itself is new and we're not even through the first season yet to 400 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:13,039 figure out how that's going to work. Exactly. That was part of why it was so 401 00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:17,760 kind of blurry. I think maybe it's a philosophical difference in how you 402 00:32:15,279 --> 00:32:23,679 manage a budget, but in all of my years of management, I would never go and ask 403 00:32:20,799 --> 00:32:28,240 for money without having a plan. So, it seems like the carts before the course 404 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:32,159 here in my opinion to me, you should take the time to formulate the plan. And 405 00:32:30,799 --> 00:32:37,279 it's not that I don't agree with the reserve. I think, you know, it would be 406 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:41,840 a smart thing to do if we knew the direction we were headed 407 00:32:38,799 --> 00:32:49,519 » and what the goal was. Total respect for that, Karen. Um, I I just think that 408 00:32:46,799 --> 00:32:55,840 when you're talking municipal versus private, private can raise the money a 409 00:32:52,159 --> 00:32:58,559 lot faster than usually a municipal can. So, we're just trying to plan for the 410 00:32:57,519 --> 00:33:02,320 future. >> Not a matter of raising the money 411 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:07,080 quicker. It's just a matter of putting pen to paper and getting a plan together 412 00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:14,720 » which is hard to do in at this moment where we are in time. Next year at this 413 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:18,640 time there will be much more of a plan. Wouldn't you say 414 00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:23,600 » plan originally discussed was like taking on mowing. So trying to find 415 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:28,399 equipment for mowing. And I also want to point out that like historically the 416 00:33:25,679 --> 00:33:33,600 town has benefited from staff allowing the town to use their own equipment, 417 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:38,240 tractors and heavy duty equipment and such. And so it's helped keep expenses 418 00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:43,679 down, but it's not something the town can require or rely on indefinitely, 419 00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:48,559 just using other people's stuff. And an example of that is when we did plowing 420 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:52,720 at the transfer station, we had an agreement where it was at a very low 421 00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:57,279 cost. And once that arrangement was no longer there, um then we were hit with 422 00:33:55,600 --> 00:34:01,279 an increase in the budget line because we couldn't plan for something like that 423 00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:05,360 happened. So that was due to kind of lack of planning, relying on somebody 424 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:10,879 else doing something at a really low cost, which we're very grateful for, but 425 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:17,760 it's just not something that you can depend on indefinitely. Um, 426 00:34:13,919 --> 00:34:21,079 » I'd like to add to the amount that Dave talked about 427 00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:25,879 » the truck, >> the 428 00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:34,879 » on top of that, you're proposing to repair 429 00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:43,760 it. I can't think of the name of it. >> Uh, to repair a a brush. 430 00:34:39,919 --> 00:34:49,280 » Wood chipper. Thank you. Um, now we have all of this equipment that we're putting 431 00:34:45,919 --> 00:34:52,480 a reserve away for. We have no plan. Where are you going to put it? Now 432 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:56,720 you're talking about building a building. You're talking about a DPW. 433 00:34:55,119 --> 00:34:59,280 You're talking about having a mechanic on staff. 434 00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:03,599 » Are we talking about that? >> We never talked about that. 435 00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:10,000 » You are. You're looking at plan to increase eventually over whatever fivey 436 00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:14,320 year, 10 year plan to end up with the DPW. 437 00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:19,680 We don't need a DPW in this town. >> We have not discussed that. 438 00:35:16,079 --> 00:35:25,280 » No, nobody's got that is that's when you have people and equipment to do work. 439 00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:29,359 » All right. >> When you're 440 00:35:27,359 --> 00:35:33,680 talking about buying large pieces of equipment, you're talking about 441 00:35:31,119 --> 00:35:39,599 repairing pieces of equipment that we haven't used for a very long time. We've 442 00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:47,040 hired a director of facilities, aka director of DPW. 443 00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:53,760 Now, you want to add more money in reserve to eventually buy more 444 00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:58,560 equipment, to buy a building. All of that needs to be reviewed and 445 00:35:56,720 --> 00:36:02,800 discussed before we start putting the money away for it. I I don't think 446 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:09,200 putting this off a year is going to 10,000 putting away for till next year's 447 00:36:06,079 --> 00:36:14,240 budget to have a plan in place and see where that goes. 448 00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:20,480 Oh, that's a good point that I was re going to save for something else, but um 449 00:36:17,839 --> 00:36:25,280 » I think at this point, you know, we've got to do what we can do to keep the the 450 00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:31,280 budget in line with what the commitment is so that taxpayers aren't going to hit 451 00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:34,280 get hit with $18 like they did last year. 452 00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:42,480 » Any more discussion? Any more comments? 453 00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:44,560 Hearing none. All those in favor say I. >> I. 454 00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:49,800 » I. David Elves. >> I. 455 00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:49,800 » Anyone opposed? Nay. 456 00:36:50,320 --> 00:37:02,280 » Okay. Capital improvement 15,000. Budget committee recommends 7500 457 00:36:57,040 --> 00:37:02,280 with a 50 vote. What say the board? 458 00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:15,359 I'll make a motion to accept $15,000 for capital improvement. 459 00:37:13,839 --> 00:37:20,440 » Second. >> It's moved and seconded. Discussion 460 00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:32,040 hearing none. All those in favor? I >> I I 461 00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:42,240 » You said I I'm sorry. I >> Thank you. That's uh unanimous. 462 00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:49,520 board or nothing. Um, >> can we go back a moment? 463 00:37:45,599 --> 00:37:53,040 » Um, the facilities equipment reserve >> three to one 464 00:37:50,720 --> 00:37:59,560 » and she got four to zero. So, >> no, that was me. I voted no. 465 00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:59,560 » I didn't know. I voted that was 466 00:38:02,720 --> 00:38:11,280 » Okay. Um, there's a disaster. Next page. Bunganut 467 00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:15,200 Park 25,000. Budget 468 00:38:14,079 --> 00:38:16,160 » top of 33. >> 33. 469 00:38:15,839 --> 00:38:20,960 » Yes. >> Yanut 470 00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:25,920 Park 25,000. Budget committee recommended 25,000. 32 vote. What say 471 00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:29,119 the board? >> Make a motion to accept the 25,000 for 472 00:38:28,079 --> 00:38:33,760 buging up. >> Second. 473 00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:40,079 » Any discussion? No, >> that's something 474 00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:43,520 » um in our discussions. Um I won't speak for everybody. I think most of us, if 475 00:38:41,839 --> 00:38:48,400 not all of us, we're concerned that there's no plan for that either. Um and 476 00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:54,400 not that I want to take money away from Bunganut, but I do want to see a plan. 477 00:38:51,040 --> 00:39:03,760 Is it possible to take that 25,000 out of reserve and put it in CIP and um 478 00:38:59,119 --> 00:39:08,480 label it for beach reclamation? So, there is a plan. It was distributed 479 00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:12,160 last year. I looked through my notes and I'll give you guys a copy of it if you 480 00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:17,119 want to pass them down, but it goes through the expenses. So, this is 481 00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:21,119 primarily for the beach restoration. So it kind of goes through the estimates 482 00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:26,160 and quotes we got on some stuff and then there's meeting notes from when I met 483 00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:31,440 with D. So D assured us that if we go through the NERPA process, it's a 484 00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:37,040 feasible project to restore the beach and it's also one of the biggest 485 00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:40,320 communities like in in the surveys that we've done, everybody really wants the 486 00:39:39,119 --> 00:39:43,680 water access there >> and I agree with that. I'm not saying 487 00:39:42,079 --> 00:39:48,880 take the money out. I'm saying reclassify it so it's labeled so people 488 00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:52,640 know what we're we're asking for the money. 489 00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:54,320 » That is a plan. Saying there's no plan. >> Well, but 490 00:39:53,359 --> 00:39:56,000 » there is a plan. >> That's 491 00:39:54,720 --> 00:40:01,119 » that's a plan here. >> When we talk about plan, we talk about 492 00:39:59,119 --> 00:40:03,200 » fiveyear plan. What's going to What is Buganut Park going to look like in five 493 00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:06,480 years? >> What's your fiveyear plan look like? 494 00:40:04,720 --> 00:40:11,040 » I don't have one. I'm not It probably won't even be around in five years. 495 00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:15,599 » You pass that. But I mean there is we have no plans. We 496 00:40:13,119 --> 00:40:21,040 keep adding money in and we keep spending it for different things. 497 00:40:17,599 --> 00:40:25,640 » The town has never agreed on what to do with fun and park. 498 00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:25,640 » Thank you. 499 00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:32,320 » You're not funding a fiveyear plan. >> I understand we don't have a fiveyear 500 00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:38,000 plan >> and I think we should have a five plan. 501 00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:43,920 » Well in CIP there's another you know the sexual and CIP. that very specifically 502 00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:50,720 lays out what monies are being spent at Monley mansion benches so forth. 503 00:40:47,839 --> 00:40:56,480 Why can't we put this into that section and label it beach reclamation rather 504 00:40:53,119 --> 00:41:03,200 than leaving it blank in reserves? Well, as as if I recall, and smack me upside 505 00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:08,079 the head if I if I'm missing it, but the last few years since we started working 506 00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:12,800 on bunging, that's the amount of money that we've put into it. And we've been 507 00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:15,200 putting in $25,000 and you can see the improvements, 508 00:41:14,319 --> 00:41:20,240 » can't you? I don't. >> I mean, can you at all? But I'm just 509 00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:24,560 saying so it's not like >> also for the last five years this 510 00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:28,960 committee has asked for a plan >> and we've asked every year for a plan 511 00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:32,160 and every year we don't get a plan. >> There's been a plan for the past almost 512 00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:34,560 two years. David, >> I get one this year. 513 00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:36,960 » Dave, I was just trying to >> Yes. Sorry. Go ahead, Dave. Say that 514 00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:40,960 again. >> I just explained to David for the past 515 00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:45,119 two years there's been a plan. It's it's on it's on paper. All you have to do is 516 00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:50,079 request it. I believe the town manager is holding it. 517 00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:55,119 So is it the way he's calling plan? It's a beach 518 00:41:52,480 --> 00:42:00,560 and some some points. >> There's a beach, some points, there's a 519 00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:04,800 scope of work, there's uh pricing. Uh you know what exactly are you looking 520 00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:08,640 for for a beach restoration, Dave? >> I'm not looking for a plan for beach 521 00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:13,200 restoration, Dave. I'm looking for a total plan for the park. What are we 522 00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:16,319 going to have for buildings? What are we gonna do for 523 00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:23,160 » We're not We're not going that far, Dave. You're not You're not $25,000 524 00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:23,160 isn't going to go that far. 525 00:42:23,359 --> 00:42:29,119 » Thank you. You >> And next year we'll ask for a plan 526 00:42:27,599 --> 00:42:32,960 again. Thank you. >> Good. Anything else? 527 00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:36,480 » Yes. So my question is is um sorry Karen, I'm confused. Moving it to 528 00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:39,040 another account is it just so that that money is set aside just for that because 529 00:42:38,079 --> 00:42:41,359 what would be the difference? >> That would be the reason. Are you 530 00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:44,480 concerned that >> because if that doesn't happen, they can 531 00:42:43,119 --> 00:42:47,920 take that money and use it for something else. 532 00:42:45,119 --> 00:42:53,119 » I could answer. Um, >> so this year there was there was money 533 00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:56,160 put in the reserve and it was my understanding it was for beach 534 00:42:54,240 --> 00:42:59,920 reclamation. You know, I know there were delays and we're waiting for permit and 535 00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:05,440 all of that, but now that money is being used for kiosks. It's not being used for 536 00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:09,599 beach reclamation. So all I'm asking doesn't affect the bottom line of the 537 00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:14,400 budget at all is just to reclassify it. So it can be labeled so people know, you 538 00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:18,720 know, what we're planning on doing and we could be accountable 539 00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:21,440 » and we are paying I know it has to be added back in but the kiosk is being 540 00:43:20,240 --> 00:43:24,480 paid for this year. >> Yeah, I know. 541 00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:27,839 » I know it has to be added back in. >> I just wanted to add that in there for 542 00:43:25,599 --> 00:43:33,040 anybody who's listening. >> Thank you. That's all. 543 00:43:29,359 --> 00:43:39,720 » Any more discussion on the 25,000 for the reserve account for Bunganet that is 544 00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:39,720 going to be used for beach reclamation? 545 00:43:39,839 --> 00:43:45,440 Hearing none. All those in favor say I. >> I. David Alves. 546 00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:51,040 » I. >> The motion carries unanimously. 547 00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:56,240 » Fire hydrants 6,000. Budget committee recommends 6,000 50 vote. What say the 548 00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:59,359 board? Make a motion to accept 6,000 for fire hydrants. 549 00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:03,599 » Second. >> Any discussion? I will say I don't I 550 00:44:02,240 --> 00:44:07,359 know there's some in the account already. I think we're going to be 551 00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:10,640 expending a bunch this year because there's a lot of hydrants that are not 552 00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:13,680 in good shape. >> How much is 553 00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:19,040 » they started going dry uh before the winter, but in our in our budget talks 554 00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:25,040 with the fire commission and the fire department and when we met and stuff uh 555 00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:30,240 there was we think that it we'll have enough. But I'm just saying that that's 556 00:44:27,839 --> 00:44:36,079 going to be depleted probably fairly well because there's a lot of them that 557 00:44:32,240 --> 00:44:41,520 need work that and whatnot and that some of them aren't holding water. That's not 558 00:44:38,720 --> 00:44:46,640 good if you're a hydrant. >> I was just asking how much was already 559 00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:51,960 in the account and Joe said 14,400. >> Sorry that may get 14,400. Sorry. 560 00:44:53,520 --> 00:45:00,160 » Any more discussion? All those in favor? I. David Alves. 561 00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:03,920 » I. >> Thank you. It's four to nothing. The 562 00:45:02,079 --> 00:45:08,960 motion carries. >> Charter Commission $1,000. Budget 563 00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:16,000 committee recommended $1,000 and with a 50 vote. What say the board? 564 00:45:13,119 --> 00:45:18,240 » Move that we approve $1,000 for the reserve account for the charter 565 00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:22,000 commission. >> Second. 566 00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:26,160 » Moved and seconded. Is there any discussion? 567 00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:29,119 Have any discussion? >> No. 568 00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:31,119 » All those in favor? >> I. 569 00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:34,880 » David Elves. >> I. 570 00:45:32,079 --> 00:45:42,640 » Motion carries. >> Hey, Drive. Uh, Dave Road, Bridge, 571 00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:47,920 Culver, Cousins Bridge 25,000. Budget committee recommends 25,000 with a 41 572 00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:53,440 vote. Would say the board. >> Make a motion to accept 25,000 for day 573 00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:56,720 road bridge cover. I'll second 574 00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:58,079 » which is also known as the cousins bridge is that 575 00:45:57,599 --> 00:46:02,520 » yes >> thank you 576 00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:02,520 » number 30 60 577 00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:07,480 » can I ask what the one vote was against 578 00:46:07,839 --> 00:46:14,000 » from the budget committee the one that was against 579 00:46:11,599 --> 00:46:22,000 » uh that the individual who was against it was was trying to uh encourage us to 580 00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:26,000 talk to the state and try to get funded listen Okay, thank you. 581 00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:27,599 » Well, this doesn't preclude that, >> right? 582 00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:30,560 » But there's this stream. >> You're looking at the wrong guy. 583 00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:35,440 » Just just saying >> you're a whole boy that uh 584 00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:38,560 » I I the state does have a uh stream crossing program that we could apply for 585 00:46:37,599 --> 00:46:42,640 in the future. >> It's also being heavily funded by your 586 00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:47,440 LRAP fund which comes from the state. So, it's really not a lot coming. 587 00:46:45,599 --> 00:46:51,200 » You're the chair. You know, one of the things that I 588 00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:54,480 » that I said was with the amount of tractor trailers that are illegally 589 00:46:52,960 --> 00:47:00,079 using that road >> because of DO's construction on Route 35 590 00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:04,880 » that perhaps we should reach out to DOT and say, "Hey, 591 00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:09,280 » this is partially your fault >> and maybe we should recoup some money 592 00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:12,319 from them rather than spending our own." There was something from the from the 593 00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:16,480 federal and state level way back when called impact aid. When a situation went 594 00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:21,680 like that, when the feds were uh building something that would impact on 595 00:47:19,359 --> 00:47:27,520 on the state expenses, there would be an amount to uh to uh compensate for that. 596 00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:31,280 It'd be worthwhile. Maybe contacting uh >> our state representatives, particularly 597 00:47:29,119 --> 00:47:34,800 the general reason why we can't >> transportation committee 598 00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:36,800 » be worthwhile. I've spoken to him about it. He's like, "Oh yeah, by all means." 599 00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:39,680 Okay. >> Well, we can still do that. So 600 00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:42,960 » yeah, it's not just me. >> Is there any more discussion about this 601 00:47:41,839 --> 00:47:45,119 right here and now? >> Okay, 602 00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:48,640 » go ahead. >> No, I I asked if there was anything 603 00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:51,920 else. >> So, do you have anything else? 604 00:47:50,720 --> 00:47:56,000 » No. >> All right. All those in favor? 605 00:47:53,920 --> 00:48:00,000 » I. David Elves. >> I. 606 00:47:57,680 --> 00:48:05,200 » Thank you. It's unanimous. >> Unforeseen circumstances, formerly known 607 00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:12,240 as contingency, $10,000. Budget committee is recommending 2500. 608 00:48:08,319 --> 00:48:15,200 32 vote. What say the board? Move to accept the 10,000 for unforeseen 609 00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:20,079 circumstances. >> Second. 610 00:48:17,599 --> 00:48:23,920 » Any discussion? >> I will uh just say that I don't care 611 00:48:22,240 --> 00:48:29,119 what you call it. >> I'm not for that. So, 612 00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:30,880 is there anything Dave? You got anything? 613 00:48:29,599 --> 00:48:33,599 » No. No. >> All those in favor? 614 00:48:33,119 --> 00:48:37,599 Um, >> right. 615 00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:42,079 » Last last year we said $2,500. It was a and set a $5,000 limit on it to that was 616 00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:46,319 the amount of money we're going to put into it. 617 00:48:43,119 --> 00:48:52,400 » We were told this year that the pump at the transfer station was replaced for 618 00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:58,640 $2,400 which took care of most of that money that was in $2,500. My question is 619 00:48:56,319 --> 00:49:03,119 that if you look further on, we're replacing a motor on a piece of 620 00:49:00,720 --> 00:49:05,440 equipment under capital improvement. Why wasn't the pump put on the capital 621 00:49:04,720 --> 00:49:12,480 improvement? >> Because it just went it wasn't 622 00:49:09,599 --> 00:49:14,880 capital improvement. >> Oh, you mean the capital improvement 623 00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:18,319 reserve, Ken? >> Yeah. 624 00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:20,880 » It's not really capital improvement. >> Neither is the motor that you're going 625 00:49:19,599 --> 00:49:22,880 to put on this day. You're going to repair a motor, right? 626 00:49:22,240 --> 00:49:26,720 » Oh, well, >> replace it. We're getting caught up in 627 00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:32,240 the words. So, the one that I have in here at the bottom, that's minor 628 00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:38,400 um improvements. So, I could change it to 629 00:49:34,319 --> 00:49:42,480 » the idea is that spent for something that could have been improved capital 630 00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:46,079 improvement classify that as capital improvement. 631 00:49:44,720 --> 00:49:48,960 » But like you said, everybody's caught up in the words. 632 00:49:46,720 --> 00:49:54,720 » Another issue is what is the plan on this? Was this was this uh reserve 633 00:49:52,960 --> 00:50:00,000 account gonna have a cap or is it just going to keep growing? 634 00:49:57,599 --> 00:50:06,640 That was another one of our issues. >> I I believe it I believe it like you, 635 00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:10,240 David, should have a cap. $10,000 max. >> I agree with that. 636 00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:13,440 » This isn't part of those chipper thing, is it? 637 00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:19,920 » No. No. No. This is in case something happens, 638 00:50:15,839 --> 00:50:24,079 unforeseen circumstances or um what we used to call a contingency. So you never 639 00:50:22,720 --> 00:50:28,400 know, you know, it's a crapshoot. Something one time it was the server 640 00:50:26,079 --> 00:50:34,480 fried, one time it was this, one time it was that. Um it's kind of a plan for um 641 00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:38,800 unexpected things. >> Does that need to be put into the motion 642 00:50:37,119 --> 00:50:45,280 the tap? >> No, we don't usually do that. 643 00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:48,480 » So you keep it uncapped. >> Whatever. 644 00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:51,920 » It's a recommendation by your board. >> Yeah, it's it's already moved, seconded, 645 00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:57,599 and it's being discussed. >> I think we could have the understanding 646 00:50:53,599 --> 00:51:00,800 that this is being recorded that uh >> Sorry. 647 00:50:58,079 --> 00:51:06,640 » I'm sorry. Um this being, you know, recorded a public session that we have 648 00:51:04,319 --> 00:51:10,559 the understanding that uh this would be capped at 10,000 649 00:51:09,359 --> 00:51:14,960 for the indefinite future. >> Well, I made the motion. And can I 650 00:51:11,839 --> 00:51:19,520 resend my motion and change it? >> You guys can cap it if you want, but 651 00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:22,480 there could be a whole other board, you know, five years from now who could just 652 00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:24,800 change it. >> Sure. 653 00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:28,559 » Am I talking about now? >> Yeah, I can resend that and change it if 654 00:51:26,559 --> 00:51:30,960 I wish. Right. Because I made the motion >> if the second agree. 655 00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:36,160 » Yes. >> Okay. I'm going to resend my motion and 656 00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:40,880 say I make a motion to do 10,000 for unforeseen circumstances and cap it at 657 00:51:38,079 --> 00:51:43,119 10,000. Who's seconded? 658 00:51:42,559 --> 00:51:45,200 » You did. >> I did. 659 00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:50,800 » Think so. >> Second as seconded as amended. 660 00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:56,319 » Is there any more discussion >> or new discussion? 661 00:51:54,000 --> 00:52:00,240 Hearing none. Those in favor? Oh, Dave. Dave, did you were you going to say? 662 00:51:57,599 --> 00:52:05,040 » Yeah, I was going to say I'm just just legally wise, I'm not sure that we just 663 00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:13,119 did that properly. I think we were supposed to go through, vote it down, 664 00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:16,880 and then reo it, but I I'll go however you do it as long as we understood that. 665 00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:20,720 Uh >> I think there was clarity. 666 00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:25,200 » Okay. >> All those in favor? I 667 00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:28,480 » I >> David 668 00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:31,119 » I would 669 00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:34,319 » the budget committee like to resend and reconsider. 670 00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:37,359 » Uh what do you want? I don't know. Leave it 671 00:52:36,240 --> 00:52:38,960 the way it is. Yep. >> Yeah. We're going to leave it the way it 672 00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:43,760 is. >> Okay. 673 00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:49,040 » I like to let the people decide. >> So fire department vehicle reserve fund 674 00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:54,839 80,000. Budget committee voted 80,000. 50 vote. 675 00:52:55,599 --> 00:53:04,400 » Move that the board approve the $80,000 for the U Goodman Mills fire rescue 676 00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:10,280 vehicle for $80,000. >> Second. 677 00:53:05,839 --> 00:53:10,280 » It's moved and seconded. Any discussion? 678 00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:16,319 Hearing none. All those in favor? I. David Alves. 679 00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:22,640 » I. >> Four to nothing. 680 00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:28,000 Facilities reserve account uh 18,000. Budget committee voted 18,000 with a 50 681 00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:31,359 vote. What say the board? >> Make a motion to accept 18,000 per 682 00:53:30,079 --> 00:53:34,319 facility. >> Second. 683 00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:40,079 » It's moved and seconded. Any discussion on that? 684 00:53:37,119 --> 00:53:45,760 Hearing none. All those in favor? I. David Alves. 685 00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:52,319 » I unanimous carries. Building reserve account for current fire department 686 00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:57,440 15,000. Budget committee voted 15,000. I made that change. 50 vote. What say the 687 00:53:55,359 --> 00:54:02,559 board? >> Move that the board approved $15,000 for 688 00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:06,480 Goodwood Mills Fire and Rescue Building Reserve account. 689 00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:12,240 » Second. >> Any discussion on that? 690 00:54:10,240 --> 00:54:18,520 All those in favor? I >> I David Alves. I 691 00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:18,520 » unanimous 692 00:54:19,599 --> 00:54:29,040 page 35 outsource general admin 693 00:54:26,559 --> 00:54:35,680 79595 budget committee voted 79595 with a 41 694 00:54:32,720 --> 00:54:40,079 vote would say the board move to accept 79,595 695 00:54:38,079 --> 00:54:43,680 for outsource general admin >> second 696 00:54:42,319 --> 00:54:46,680 » moved and seconded. Is there any discussion 697 00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:51,200 hearing? None. All those in favor? I >> I 698 00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:54,880 » David Elves. >> I 699 00:54:53,200 --> 00:55:02,800 Nothing. >> Hey carries. 700 00:54:57,440 --> 00:55:10,319 » Page 37. Before we move to page 37, can we quickly go back to uh reserves GMFR 701 00:55:08,240 --> 00:55:15,200 where the budget committee line item is listed as a thousand that we approved? 702 00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:17,520 » I changed it earlier today. >> Okay. I just want to make sure it's 703 00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:21,839 correct. >> I did. Okay. That was all 704 00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:25,440 » I just didn't get it on this because it was way earlier. All right. I just want 705 00:55:24,079 --> 00:55:31,079 to make sure that >> Yeah, I did get that. Sorry about that. 706 00:55:28,079 --> 00:55:31,079 Let's 707 00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:40,880 go. >> Ready to move on. So page 37 708 00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:47,200 um outsourced other 249 804 budget committee tabled it. Um what say board 709 00:55:45,359 --> 00:55:51,280 and the committee >> make a motion to accept 249 804 for 710 00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:54,280 outsourced data? >> Second. 711 00:55:57,119 --> 00:56:02,640 It's just >> Yeah. Um, 712 00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:04,799 » my apologies. This includes the Lman Historical Society. 713 00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:06,960 » No. >> And the PAT fees. 714 00:56:06,240 --> 00:56:09,200 » Well, this is >> in the library. 715 00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:14,559 » Well, I'll >> Would you like to know why we haven't 716 00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:16,319 » Can we not talk all at the same time, please? 717 00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:18,799 » Hasn't been seconded yet. So, we have not in discussion. 718 00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:21,760 » Yeah. My apologies. I missed this. Uh, I am a member of the environment 719 00:56:19,839 --> 00:56:24,480 Historical Society, so I resend my second. 720 00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:27,520 » I'll second. >> Thank you. 721 00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:33,680 » Okay. It's moved and seconded again. Now we can discuss it. 722 00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:38,799 » We were in in the past uh the library made a presentation to 723 00:56:36,799 --> 00:56:43,680 the budget committee and the select board. They came in with with their 724 00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:48,799 proposal for the budget. They gave us their last year's. They gave us their 725 00:56:46,240 --> 00:56:53,920 expenditure. They gave us their proposed for the future year. If they had any 726 00:56:51,119 --> 00:57:00,559 changes, they would explain them to us. And that's the way it operated while the 727 00:56:56,880 --> 00:57:04,480 last couple of years that I can remember that the library has just given us their 728 00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:10,240 numbers and said take them or leave them. I I attempted to get a hold of the 729 00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:14,480 budget to the the library committee. I was unable to get a hold of them. I 730 00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:20,240 probably didn't try hard enough, but I tried to get them in. No, no response. I 731 00:57:18,079 --> 00:57:24,319 believe that we should know what their plan is. I mean here again they've added 732 00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:28,319 quite a bit to personnel. >> Did you get supplement 7? 733 00:57:25,599 --> 00:57:32,160 » I I get that. Yes, I have that. If you look at everybody else's submission, for 734 00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:37,040 instance, the fire department, they tell us how much we budgeted last year. They 735 00:57:34,559 --> 00:57:41,599 tell us how much they spent last year. They and we see the difference. If 736 00:57:39,359 --> 00:57:46,720 there's a if there's an excess, we know there's an excess and they include that 737 00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:52,559 in the following year's budget to take care of the excess. the the the library 738 00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:56,720 gives us nothing. We don't know how much money they get from other organizations. 739 00:57:54,799 --> 00:58:00,640 We don't know how much they get from they used to get money from Dayton. I 740 00:57:58,400 --> 00:58:05,520 don't know if they still do or not. So, we have no idea where the money's coming 741 00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:10,160 from. Uh and we don't know exactly what their plan is. We know they're going 742 00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:16,480 from it. Appears at least that they're going from two full-time and a part-time 743 00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:21,359 to three full-time. Uh those of us who remember they used to have one full-time 744 00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:25,040 and one part-time and they came to us and said, "We don't think that's safe. 745 00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:28,880 We shouldn't have just one person in the building." We agreed. So, we went to two 746 00:58:27,359 --> 00:58:32,720 full-time. Then they went to two full-time and a 747 00:58:30,559 --> 00:58:38,240 part-time. And it appears they want to go to three full-time 748 00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:42,880 with no explanation. Uh, I just think we should we deserve an explanation of 749 00:58:40,799 --> 00:58:49,680 where $200,000 of our taxpayer dollars are going. And 750 00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:56,119 and I'm not against the library. Okay. 751 00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:56,119 Any more discussion 752 00:58:56,160 --> 00:59:02,640 is Wasn't the discussion that we had 753 00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:07,520 previous was that the increase this year was was 754 00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:14,079 because of um added hours for employees. Um I do 755 00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:19,040 know that the library is an integral part of town. I know that it's it's busy 756 00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:26,720 and busier just like the rest of the thing everything in town has been in the 757 00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:30,400 past. Um I thought we had uh at one I don't didn't bring that packet. I 758 00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:38,160 brought just the newest stuff, but I know that we had the supplement 7 with 759 00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:41,280 all all the Did you get this? >> Yes. It It says what they would like us 760 00:59:40,240 --> 00:59:43,440 to fund. >> Yep. 761 00:59:41,839 --> 00:59:48,880 » Now, if you look at the If you look at the the fire department's budget, they 762 00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:53,040 tell us what we funded last year, how much of it they spent, and how much 763 00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:57,359 they'd like this year. We have way closer oversight on the fire department 764 00:59:55,599 --> 01:00:02,319 than we do the library, which is a private entity with a board of directors 765 01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:05,920 that >> their board of directors used to brief 766 01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:09,200 us every year. I >> I think it is a fair I'm not changing 767 01:00:07,839 --> 01:00:14,559 your vote on this, but it is a fair request to ask how much of the municipal 768 01:00:11,520 --> 01:00:16,960 funds were spent in the last year. I think that's a fair request. The private 769 01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:20,000 stuff is none of our business. >> I don't I don't disagree with that 770 01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:24,160 either. >> Yeah. I think if we do that for one 771 01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:30,079 entity, it should be required for all entities. Absolutely. That get either 772 01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:34,160 cash from the town or in kind. Yep. >> So, I think that's something maybe the 773 01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:38,799 board could probably take a look at just in the interest of fairness. 774 01:00:37,119 --> 01:00:42,359 » So, where does that leave us in the meantime tonight? 775 01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:48,960 » You what? >> Hope still out there. 776 01:00:45,839 --> 01:00:51,760 » It is. We're We're still in discussion. >> Ask me a question. I'm answering and I'm 777 01:00:50,319 --> 01:00:55,440 just ready for the vote whenever I don't have any more discussion. 778 01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:57,520 » Okay. You got anything else to discuss, Dave? 779 01:00:56,400 --> 01:01:01,760 » Uh, nope. >> All righty. All those in favor? 780 01:00:59,920 --> 01:01:06,319 » I David >> I 781 01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:10,319 to nothing. Um, but I would like to uh put that on a future agenda 782 01:01:08,319 --> 01:01:18,480 » please to the library. Do we so we can discuss 783 01:01:12,960 --> 01:01:22,400 how we go about that in the future? do it. 784 01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:26,799 » Yeah. How many other people are there? >> Is it $5,000 for the How many? 785 01:01:24,640 --> 01:01:31,680 » Whether whether it's inind or whether they're getting money from the town, I'd 786 01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:35,040 rather not just blurt it all out. Let's get a list together. 787 01:01:32,799 --> 01:01:38,480 » I just asked for a number. How many >> round number? No. Sorry. I don't have 788 01:01:38,240 --> 01:01:41,200 it. >> We're going to keep moving. 789 01:01:39,440 --> 01:01:47,680 » Can you do it over a certain dollar amount? that would probably 790 01:01:45,040 --> 01:01:53,599 » if we were to discuss it in a way that we could decide if we wanted to do that, 791 01:01:51,359 --> 01:01:59,040 we wouldn't have to have all the details. Exactly. But, um, if we put 792 01:01:56,640 --> 01:02:01,760 that on a on an agenda for discussion in the future, I don't see why we couldn't 793 01:02:00,480 --> 01:02:07,200 discuss it. Even if we don't do anything, 794 01:02:03,520 --> 01:02:10,960 » it it seems valid to discuss, but I don't this is we're here to do 795 01:02:09,280 --> 01:02:16,480 this tonight. I don't want to get down a rabbit hole. Do you 796 01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:19,359 Does anybody >> No. 797 01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:24,760 » Yeah. The budget committee had tailed it. Let's see. 798 01:02:21,599 --> 01:02:24,760 » Go around. 799 01:02:27,200 --> 01:02:34,760 Anybody on the budget committee want to make a motion? 800 01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:34,760 » Myself. 801 01:02:38,720 --> 01:02:41,280 No. 802 01:02:42,480 --> 01:02:48,799 You can leave it tabled. >> Yeah, we can say no vote. 803 01:02:46,559 --> 01:02:51,760 » Would say no vote. >> I'm in favor of that. 804 01:02:50,480 --> 01:02:56,839 » I'm in favor of that. >> Okay, I'm fine with that, too. Leave it 805 01:02:53,520 --> 01:02:56,839 like it is. 806 01:02:57,760 --> 01:03:05,839 » Well, >> hey, good mills fire and rescue. Um, I 807 01:03:03,040 --> 01:03:12,160 spoke to the chief a little bit earlier and they know he's a formula error. um 808 01:03:09,520 --> 01:03:17,640 and amounts to like $64. The new number is 949216. 809 01:03:22,960 --> 01:03:27,839 » Okay. What >> where is that on? Is that the total 810 01:03:26,799 --> 01:03:31,680 amount? >> So if you add the new number for 811 01:03:30,799 --> 01:03:34,640 personnel >> Uhhuh. 812 01:03:32,240 --> 01:03:36,160 » and the new number for operations under alignment. 813 01:03:35,359 --> 01:03:41,280 » Okay. >> That's what that number comes to. And if 814 01:03:38,319 --> 01:03:46,960 you add the 49 and the 15 comes to the 64 everybody all 815 01:03:45,119 --> 01:03:51,520 understand why we can get into this supposed to 816 01:03:48,720 --> 01:03:58,720 match up to something. >> It does. 817 01:03:53,680 --> 01:04:04,160 » I'll make a motion for 949216 for Goodwood Mills fire. 818 01:04:01,200 --> 01:04:08,880 » Second. >> Any discussion? 819 01:04:06,240 --> 01:04:15,119 » Yeah. What line was the error? What? Do you know what line the error was? Just 820 01:04:12,079 --> 01:04:18,599 » the exact line. Not I don't know the exact line. 821 01:04:19,599 --> 01:04:28,079 » It was a it was an error that was brought to our attention like 822 01:04:25,280 --> 01:04:33,200 » earlier by the uh treasurer of the fire department. So, 823 01:04:31,119 --> 01:04:37,880 I didn't I didn't I wasn't notified about it until just like you were 824 01:04:39,200 --> 01:04:43,920 » the budget committee made the same recommendation. 825 01:04:43,200 --> 01:04:48,039 » Yeah. >> Is there any discussion on this? 826 01:04:48,240 --> 01:04:53,119 Any discussion on this? No. >> Dave, you got any discussion? 827 01:04:52,240 --> 01:04:56,480 » No. >> All those in favor? 828 01:04:54,640 --> 01:05:01,200 » I. David Alves. >> I. The motion carries for 949216 829 01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:04,480 4 to nothing >> budget committee. 830 01:05:02,079 --> 01:05:11,839 » I make a motion we change and agree with the budget with figure of uh 949216 831 01:05:10,160 --> 01:05:17,119 » second any discussion 832 01:05:14,160 --> 01:05:20,119 seeing none all in favor. unanim 833 01:05:23,440 --> 01:05:32,160 other CIP page 39 $70,500 834 01:05:29,200 --> 01:05:39,280 budget committee voted $7,500 with a 41 vote but say the board make a 835 01:05:36,160 --> 01:05:45,599 motion to accept $7,500 for others have capital improvement second. 836 01:05:43,280 --> 01:05:50,319 » All right moved and seconded. Any discussion? 837 01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:52,559 Hearing none. All those in favor? >> I 838 01:05:50,880 --> 01:05:55,920 » I Dave >> I 839 01:05:53,280 --> 01:05:59,599 » mean David Alves is what I meant to say. >> I again 840 01:05:57,520 --> 01:06:02,599 » again it's four to nothing. The motion carries. 841 01:06:02,640 --> 01:06:11,839 » Okay. You guys have one more thing left. Just the board. 842 01:06:09,200 --> 01:06:15,680 » This is your sub revenues for next year. The revenue offsets. 843 01:06:14,000 --> 01:06:17,839 Dave, I sent that to you earlier. Did you get it? 844 01:06:16,799 --> 01:06:22,400 » I did. >> Okay. 845 01:06:20,160 --> 01:06:27,119 » So, over here you guys decide what you want to put into your warrant for 846 01:06:24,400 --> 01:06:30,799 revenue offsets. This is what I'm recommending 847 01:06:28,640 --> 01:06:37,640 on on the back page. You can see the breakdown of fun balance. 848 01:06:33,839 --> 01:06:37,640 And there you go. 849 01:06:40,480 --> 01:06:48,160 You have to get into a discussion first. No. Well, this is something if you don't 850 01:06:46,559 --> 01:06:51,359 understand it, I think we >> I don't 851 01:06:48,640 --> 01:06:55,680 » I would move the discussion first. >> What do you think? Is anybody against 852 01:06:53,119 --> 01:07:00,319 that? If you don't understand it, I want I'd like to bring that 853 01:06:57,839 --> 01:07:03,440 understanding. >> Do you want to make a motion or to 854 01:07:02,880 --> 01:07:08,559 » uh we >> so for discussion or 855 01:07:06,240 --> 01:07:14,400 » what what do you guys want to do? Well, if I read this correctly, uh motion 856 01:07:11,520 --> 01:07:17,400 would be to app from $50,000 for overlay. 857 01:07:17,599 --> 01:07:21,599 Am I right on that or >> um it would be for the whole amount. I 858 01:07:21,119 --> 01:07:24,480 think >> this is 859 01:07:22,079 --> 01:07:30,960 » Well, you could do overlay separately. >> That's for FY27 proposed. It's 30,000 to 860 01:07:28,400 --> 01:07:35,520 900,000. The 1 million is 50,000. We'll combine it. 861 01:07:31,920 --> 01:07:39,119 » Yeah, I add another >> I added it. 862 01:07:40,400 --> 01:07:51,520 So basically what we do KJ is we have revenues that come into the town and 863 01:07:47,680 --> 01:07:57,359 those revenues offset the budget. We have fund balance or a designated fund 864 01:07:54,000 --> 01:08:01,920 balance technically. We have excise tax that we are predicting that we're going 865 01:07:59,200 --> 01:08:06,799 to bring into the town. We have transfer station money because they go in, they 866 01:08:04,240 --> 01:08:12,079 pay to get rid of some of their bulky items and stuff. And then we have 867 01:08:08,880 --> 01:08:16,480 overlay. So, any questions on the transfer station, excise or fund 868 01:08:14,160 --> 01:08:20,199 balance? >> No. 869 01:08:17,199 --> 01:08:20,199 » No. 870 01:08:20,480 --> 01:08:24,960 » No, it's good. >> I thought I heard Dave 871 01:08:22,719 --> 01:08:30,960 » said no. He He said no. So, what overlay is is is the state 872 01:08:27,600 --> 01:08:38,640 allows for a cushion um when we're doing the tax rates. The cushion and in our 873 01:08:34,400 --> 01:08:43,120 vote goes for abatements um and we're allowed to use it because 874 01:08:40,319 --> 01:08:48,080 we asked for that. Before our assessor left, she 875 01:08:45,279 --> 01:08:53,120 recommended 50,000 because we're going through the um equalization project 876 01:08:50,640 --> 01:08:58,640 right now. She thinks more people will be looking at their detail once they get 877 01:08:56,319 --> 01:09:06,319 that and they might see some things on there that h weren't caught in the last 878 01:09:01,199 --> 01:09:09,359 valuation uh rebath and she wanted to prepare for that. 879 01:09:07,440 --> 01:09:12,640 » Yeah. Okay. Thank you. 880 01:09:10,719 --> 01:09:17,839 » All right. >> Is there any more discussion before we 881 01:09:14,640 --> 01:09:22,560 make a motion? >> No. 882 01:09:20,000 --> 01:09:26,960 Anybody else got anything? I'll entertain that. 883 01:09:24,400 --> 01:09:33,120 » Okay. Are we saying that the total amount to 884 01:09:29,279 --> 01:09:35,040 uh propose 1,980,000? >> Yes. 885 01:09:33,920 --> 01:09:42,679 » Okay. >> And that and that's for uh I move that 886 01:09:38,239 --> 01:09:42,679 we approve 1,980,000 887 01:09:42,960 --> 01:09:49,440 for recommended cash offset. >> Second. 888 01:09:47,839 --> 01:09:53,920 » All right. any just >> hang on let me go back 889 01:09:51,759 --> 01:09:58,400 » 1,930,000 for the cash offset J 890 01:09:56,239 --> 01:10:00,640 » and the 50,000 because that would become an expenditure 891 01:09:59,840 --> 01:10:02,080 » okay >> sorry 892 01:10:01,199 --> 01:10:04,320 » no that's quite right >> those two separate 893 01:10:03,120 --> 01:10:07,280 » now okay then >> my second 894 01:10:05,040 --> 01:10:14,080 » I'll resend my original motion and revise it accordingly 895 01:10:09,520 --> 01:10:19,760 I move that we approve $1,930,000 for recommended cash offsets 896 01:10:16,800 --> 01:10:24,880 Second. >> Any discussion? 897 01:10:22,560 --> 01:10:27,880 Hearing none. All those in favor? >> I 898 01:10:28,080 --> 01:10:32,480 David Alves. >> I. 899 01:10:30,320 --> 01:10:35,840 » There's no one opposed. >> And I'll make a motion for the overlay 900 01:10:34,320 --> 01:10:38,840 for 50,000. >> Second. 901 01:10:39,280 --> 01:10:48,080 » Any discussion on that? Hearing none. All those in favor? I. 902 01:10:45,040 --> 01:10:53,960 David Elves. Hi, >> it's unanimous there too. 903 01:10:50,719 --> 01:10:53,960 » That's wrap. 904 01:10:54,640 --> 01:11:00,719 » Thank you very much. >> I'm sorry. My apologies. My apologies. 905 01:10:58,159 --> 01:11:07,920 I'm sorry. But I um back on the vote or outsourced other 906 01:11:04,719 --> 01:11:14,000 I participated in that and I'm sorry I'm a member of the uh historical society. 907 01:11:10,719 --> 01:11:17,880 » Okay. So, could that uh vote be recorded as 301? 908 01:11:19,600 --> 01:11:25,600 » You misvoted. >> Yeah. 909 01:11:22,640 --> 01:11:27,840 » It's exciting. You just raised my hand, right? 910 01:11:26,480 --> 01:11:30,239 » I did the same thing. >> You didn't make the motion or second, 911 01:11:29,360 --> 01:11:34,520 did you? >> Have to revote. 912 01:11:31,520 --> 01:11:34,520 » No, 913 01:11:35,520 --> 01:11:42,000 I have my supplement seven back. >> Handed it passed to Joe. I gave it to 914 01:11:41,440 --> 01:11:44,960 Joe. >> Okay. 915 01:11:43,280 --> 01:11:49,840 » Yeah, I gave it to Joe. I passed it down. 916 01:11:46,159 --> 01:11:54,239 » I passed it to Joe. Should be uh >> should be right there. 917 01:11:51,520 --> 01:11:59,679 » All right. Thanks. >> Did you Did you put it somewhere? No. 918 01:11:56,400 --> 01:12:03,120 » I'll just ask another pass it down. And look, 919 01:12:00,960 --> 01:12:06,640 » I don't have it. >> There it is. Is that it? 920 01:12:04,880 --> 01:12:10,120 » No. >> There's another one. 921 01:12:10,560 --> 01:12:15,679 I'll just ask for I'll >> maybe you put it back in your stash. 922 01:12:13,600 --> 01:12:18,960 » I'll email Janette for another copy back the library one. I was want to keep all 923 01:12:17,360 --> 01:12:22,000 my stuff together and I somehow lost mine somewhere. 924 01:12:19,679 --> 01:12:25,840 » The library stuff is a motion to 925 01:12:24,480 --> 01:12:28,640 » I make a motion to adjurnn. >> Second. 926 01:12:27,199 --> 01:12:31,679 » Any discussion? >> No. 927 01:12:29,440 --> 01:12:36,199 » All those in favor? I >> David 928 01:12:33,199 --> 01:12:36,199 » I 929 01:12:37,679 --> 01:12:43,560 just Thank you everybody. >> All right. I'm just going to make sure I 930 01:12:40,560 --> 01:12:43,560 don't 931 01:12:43,679 --> 01:12:46,800 see I I know