1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:07,580 I'm foul. I bought the skull sheet. How is that? Love it. Okay. We'll. 2 00:00:20,240 --> 00:00:20,760 Okay. 3 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:29,900 It's 4 00:00:31,260 --> 00:00:34,040 530 will bring the work session to order. 5 00:00:35,160 --> 00:00:40,600 First item on the work session is battery energy storage. 6 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:41,480 Energy 7 00:01:00,580 --> 00:01:07,320 storage webinar that was put on by the Tuck Hill Commission on Tuesday. 8 00:01:07,960 --> 00:01:09,320 It was actually pretty good. 9 00:01:09,700 --> 00:01:14,860 I'll forward everybody the link or the PDF of the slideshow. 10 00:01:14,860 --> 00:01:23,220 So, I'm sad to review these now, this was definitely one of the better ones, and they certainly 11 00:01:23,220 --> 00:01:27,080 addressed some of the concerns that we've all expressed about lithium-ion batteries, 12 00:01:27,660 --> 00:01:28,200 our safety. 13 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:33,480 They also talked about two fire codes, it was a good weather. 14 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:43,380 With that being said, I think our best, we need to get away from just being in the laboratory 15 00:01:46,380 --> 00:01:57,760 We need to get a committee together to actually, you know, go to the finish line and get a piece of legislation or a draft of a legislation that we can hold up all the time. 16 00:01:58,700 --> 00:01:59,480 Any more tears? 17 00:02:01,860 --> 00:02:03,300 I can join that one. 18 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:08,660 Maybe if we have fired from the fire department on that city. 19 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:19,200 Don't raise your all and at once. I don't know if Charlie has availability on Sunday from 3 to 3.45. 20 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:23,540 No. No. No. 21 00:02:23,580 --> 00:02:26,560 No, we got half the rest of the Sucker River Fire District. 22 00:02:26,740 --> 00:02:28,700 She is. She is. 23 00:02:30,740 --> 00:02:33,790 This really affects you though. 24 00:02:34,130 --> 00:02:36,470 It doesn't affect me. You don't weigh a thing in anything. 25 00:02:37,190 --> 00:02:38,070 Okay, that's good. 26 00:02:39,670 --> 00:02:41,330 That's why I'm wearing on the committee. 27 00:02:42,510 --> 00:02:51,230 Well, maybe we'll ask the planning or zoning board and see if we have anybody that would like to join from that. 28 00:02:51,370 --> 00:02:56,230 I'd like to get at least three people and I think our next stop for our first stop for that committee is, 29 00:02:56,330 --> 00:02:58,870 let's get somebody from that shirt and come in and sit out with us. 30 00:02:58,870 --> 00:03:04,870 Yeah, and because I think they have some valuable information that can help us through the process and 31 00:03:05,830 --> 00:03:13,070 The representative that was on that by one from my service that hey, we understand the concerns and we understand their local laws very 32 00:03:13,070 --> 00:03:20,650 Air because we will help you pay a little bit of the law the generic draft local law that they provide to be your specific 33 00:03:20,650 --> 00:03:24,310 Situation, so I think that that got here for a stop 34 00:03:24,310 --> 00:03:29,350 whatever they want to tread on this thing forward rather than just letting it sit. 35 00:03:30,230 --> 00:03:30,370 Right. 36 00:03:30,670 --> 00:03:35,610 It is directly related to long-term utility costs, but that's the bottom line. 37 00:03:36,410 --> 00:03:44,650 These systems are designed so that these legacy power plants, fossil-buried fuel power 38 00:03:44,650 --> 00:03:54,090 plants they take a long time to fire up and turn off at least 24 hours before 39 00:03:54,090 --> 00:04:03,010 they're producing power and so for an example you know in the summertime our 40 00:04:03,010 --> 00:04:11,370 peak hours are between three and eight at night five hours a day to fire up a 41 00:04:11,370 --> 00:04:16,890 fossil fuel power generating plant is to meet that peak hour demand costs a lot of money. 42 00:04:17,170 --> 00:04:24,370 So it drives up the cost of peak hour energy where if you can charge a battery from your 43 00:04:24,370 --> 00:04:30,230 off peak hour times put that battery on line during peak hour times it will flatten out 44 00:04:30,230 --> 00:04:34,830 the cost for energy during peak hour times. 45 00:04:34,830 --> 00:04:41,430 So, in there is a direct correlation between battery energy storage systems and the price 46 00:04:41,430 --> 00:04:43,350 we paid for our power. 47 00:04:44,550 --> 00:04:51,410 So, you know, to lift the MI on a piece of it, I don't think it's necessarily a great 48 00:04:51,410 --> 00:04:58,450 thing for our community with them all along to your fire service, but there are other technologies 49 00:04:58,450 --> 00:05:02,430 use out there that that will work that don't have a firehouse firehouse 50 00:05:02,430 --> 00:05:06,750 and it will help you in lowering overall utility costs for all the 51 00:05:06,750 --> 00:05:12,630 residents of the town. It's never been a change in utility costs. I'm sorry because 52 00:05:12,630 --> 00:05:15,350 they purposely, from a service mission purposely, 53 00:05:16,010 --> 00:05:19,870 lockball, all of the fossil plants back when they did all of the 54 00:05:19,870 --> 00:05:25,010 mergers and they stopped anything from building the power plant being operational and 55 00:05:25,010 --> 00:05:31,290 work for the ability in time, they must follow them perfectly, so it's not never going 56 00:05:31,290 --> 00:05:32,810 to reduce your costs overall. 57 00:05:33,230 --> 00:05:37,590 No, but what it can do is keep from cost rising as fast as they are right now. 58 00:05:37,950 --> 00:05:42,270 Yeah, well, it's going to cause the cost to change you because public service mission 59 00:05:42,270 --> 00:05:50,310 doesn't know what they're eligible for, either way, it's something that we need to... 60 00:05:50,310 --> 00:05:58,210 Yeah, we can still, right, we can still start moving forward, whether we end the moratorium in June or not, we've got to come up with a plan. 61 00:05:58,730 --> 00:06:02,690 I mean, I've heard, you know, the governor's just be ready to draft law. 62 00:06:03,250 --> 00:06:12,710 No, no, it should, there should be all of, you know, we should have a town board, CBA, play more member, and hopefully something from the fire service or one of the fire services. 63 00:06:13,230 --> 00:06:14,450 Yeah, participating in that. 64 00:06:14,450 --> 00:06:15,270 Yep. 65 00:06:15,890 --> 00:06:22,130 Well, so I was telling Kevin I was driving through Stowe's Vermont a couple of days ago and 66 00:06:22,130 --> 00:06:27,750 off in the distance I saw giant clouds of black smoke rolling on as I go and look there's 67 00:06:27,750 --> 00:06:28,710 a big fire. 68 00:06:28,850 --> 00:06:29,630 I wonder what it is. 69 00:06:30,030 --> 00:06:36,970 Then as we drove through solar panels out in the field and next to them to giant battery 70 00:06:36,970 --> 00:06:38,570 storage burning. 71 00:06:38,570 --> 00:06:41,950 And for green energy, it has some pretty black smoke. 72 00:06:42,370 --> 00:06:48,450 I think the lithium ion systems really aren't a good thing for our community. 73 00:06:48,870 --> 00:06:54,010 But I think there are other systems that could work and don't have the same fire risk. 74 00:06:55,370 --> 00:06:58,590 And do I want to put them in every corner and every corner? 75 00:06:58,890 --> 00:07:00,910 No. Who do I think they're sighted appropriately? 76 00:07:02,650 --> 00:07:05,410 There's a lot potentially a lot of care about that. 77 00:07:05,410 --> 00:07:07,810 but yeah, so. 78 00:07:08,810 --> 00:07:09,250 Okay. 79 00:07:09,690 --> 00:07:13,330 Yeah, we'll look into getting people on the committee. 80 00:07:14,890 --> 00:07:16,150 Thanks for all of your time. 81 00:07:16,910 --> 00:07:17,310 No problem. 82 00:07:18,510 --> 00:07:22,230 Actually, when we were at the County Planning Symposium, 83 00:07:23,010 --> 00:07:25,870 I was in one of the presentations I was in. 84 00:07:25,970 --> 00:07:27,490 We talked about that for a while 85 00:07:27,490 --> 00:07:31,270 and I got off and they do know it's just on very storage 86 00:07:31,270 --> 00:07:35,030 and things we can do to make sure 87 00:07:35,030 --> 00:07:37,970 or it meets our local requirements. 88 00:07:38,430 --> 00:07:43,450 I mean, to me, yes, the fire code revisions 89 00:07:43,450 --> 00:07:44,770 that were made certainly help. 90 00:07:46,730 --> 00:07:51,110 I still don't think that lithium ion is... 91 00:07:51,510 --> 00:07:53,130 I can really agree with that. 92 00:07:54,010 --> 00:07:56,510 I just don't think that's the hat. 93 00:07:56,630 --> 00:07:59,150 I don't think the one they're not as efficient 94 00:07:59,150 --> 00:08:04,850 in the wintertime to the fire hazard outweighs 95 00:08:04,850 --> 00:08:08,630 to me always that you've been at the fire hazard and the burden on the volunteer 96 00:08:08,630 --> 00:08:14,930 parts service always. Oh I completely agree but and maybe this group I was 97 00:08:14,930 --> 00:08:18,890 in was wrong but they were saying you know it's over a certain size the state 98 00:08:18,890 --> 00:08:24,390 can get forced down our roads. No orios does not cover battery energy 99 00:08:24,390 --> 00:08:31,190 storage. Not right now current. Right. Right. It currently orios does not cover 100 00:08:31,190 --> 00:08:37,210 battery energy storage. So it is truly local right now. It is home rule, local law. 101 00:08:37,450 --> 00:08:43,230 Yeah. Applies. All the battery energy storage for any size. And the other piece of 102 00:08:43,230 --> 00:08:48,430 battery energy storage that I think we should consider is some of our large industrial users, 103 00:08:48,850 --> 00:08:54,730 like United Bush, McLean, specialized packaging, the ground are large factories. 104 00:08:54,730 --> 00:09:01,230 There's probably benefit for them to put on-site battery storage in from a power 105 00:09:01,230 --> 00:09:02,630 usage standpoint. 106 00:09:03,330 --> 00:09:09,850 So rather than paying the elevated commercial power user rates during peak hours, they 107 00:09:09,850 --> 00:09:15,030 can put in a battery energy storage system which will ultimately lower their operating cost 108 00:09:15,030 --> 00:09:15,730 long-term. 109 00:09:16,570 --> 00:09:17,630 And paper itself. 110 00:09:18,590 --> 00:09:19,890 Again, maybe not. 111 00:09:19,890 --> 00:09:25,610 We do know how to live in Mayon, but holding those companies captive from not being able to 112 00:09:25,610 --> 00:09:35,410 evade that capital investment in their facility isn't helping our industrial businesses 113 00:09:37,140 --> 00:09:38,300 located in Illinois. 114 00:09:41,980 --> 00:09:42,400 Now what? 115 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:48,400 Just so I, because I had someone call about large scale solar or wind, what's the trigger 116 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:52,080 for over us to have a 25 megawatt? 117 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:56,700 Okay, somebody call that wants to do a private or just do a- 118 00:09:56,700 --> 00:10:04,180 No, they're a resident call they're asking about because of the solar moratorium and I was telling them that they asked me to go 119 00:10:04,180 --> 00:10:11,560 What's the size limit on what becomes out of what takes it out of the town's hands and I said well it have to be large scale 120 00:10:11,560 --> 00:10:17,680 I go so could you give us an idea currently like what the megawatts are for the four or five solar projects 121 00:10:17,680 --> 00:10:21,090 we have in the town compared to what that scale would be. 122 00:10:22,020 --> 00:10:28,540 Right, and the bottom line is you're never going to see a wind project that's less than 25 123 00:10:28,540 --> 00:10:29,700 megawatts. Right, 124 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:32,880 scale. 125 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:38,720 Yeah, the economy's the scale though. Right, but you're not going to 126 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:45,620 put up one bit now. Yeah, but to have a solar, right, like for a 25 megawatt solar structure, 127 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:50,940 roughly how many acres do you think that would have to take? To take it into the over as 128 00:10:55,980 --> 00:10:56,600 Okay, 129 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:11,620 and you know what people I did explain to them. I go what what can happen as a large format that doesn't have to just take place on one property. It could stretch across different parcels. 130 00:11:11,660 --> 00:11:17,100 You know as the wind projects do in Sullivan and what's proposed Portland County. 131 00:11:17,860 --> 00:11:21,800 So, you know, when people think, and it's like, well, we don't have a 300 acre parcel 132 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:22,620 they could put it on. 133 00:11:22,900 --> 00:11:27,480 It can be piecemealed in an area to get to that number. 134 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:32,400 That's what they're doing on that one, this one by South-East-Kinielis. 135 00:11:33,540 --> 00:11:38,100 There's one that's proposed that's not on one parcel, so 136 00:11:45,300 --> 00:11:47,900 I just wanted to give, so I knew 137 00:11:47,900 --> 00:11:48,280 the number. 138 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:50,380 I didn't know the number offhand to let them. 139 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:52,460 That's a whole part, you know. 140 00:11:52,740 --> 00:11:52,940 Yeah. 141 00:11:52,940 --> 00:11:59,160 Well, I mean, you know, I told them I go most of our projects here. I go I believe our less than five megawatts 142 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:08,260 And they all sit on 20 to 40 acres from what I gathered and what I remembered loosely from seeing the projects. So 143 00:12:09,500 --> 00:12:10,060 Okay 144 00:12:11,500 --> 00:12:13,380 Next item the 145 00:12:13,980 --> 00:12:15,820 Review of the 2026 146 00:12:17,020 --> 00:12:18,540 Pavement Management Plan. 147 00:12:24,370 --> 00:12:28,890 Did they all get everybody here? Yeah, it's Frenchie. Yeah, email me. 148 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:46,240 Oh, do you remember the Dean again? I think she, she had in my back it's all I got another one for you. 149 00:12:46,700 --> 00:12:52,740 This one that I'm passing on now. Oh, last year's 25 work that Alicia put together. 150 00:12:52,820 --> 00:12:56,860 And I did not put that on my thumb drive to share with the public. 151 00:12:56,860 --> 00:13:08,540 Mr. Moore has asked for the previous years for a decade of, you know, where did we end 152 00:13:08,540 --> 00:13:08,740 up? 153 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:16,200 Because throughout the year with the PMP, the highway superintendent comes every year and 154 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:21,260 you know, we have the proposal, we have the estimated cost, and then we get down to 155 00:13:21,700 --> 00:13:26,040 tearing a road apart and it might need more work or it might not necessarily need work. 156 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:32,360 So Mr. Moore is continuously asked the next year of how do we make out did we take care of the roads 157 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:39,200 We had in the plan because what would happen is if another road or we ran out of time just didn't get it done 158 00:13:39,740 --> 00:13:45,440 You'd see the road on the plan and then next year it would pop back up and you would wonder why so 159 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:47,620 I will get I knew how much money 160 00:13:49,740 --> 00:13:51,760 Right and and one of 161 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:56,100 Well, you know, Mr. Yeager can explain better, but what are the other issues on getting the 162 00:13:56,100 --> 00:14:01,820 cost of it when we get a vendor to come in and chip sealer to put stone down? 163 00:14:02,180 --> 00:14:06,880 We might be purchasing stone for other projects at the same time. 164 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:08,940 We're bringing stone in for a project. 165 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:14,600 So it gets nobody's measure in it by the truck fuller figuring it out at the end of the 166 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:15,680 day when it's going back out. 167 00:14:15,680 --> 00:14:20,680 When did we haul in 700 tons of water crush? 168 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:24,640 When we're at home, trust the law of the art for each project. 169 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:30,220 And to stop a project, there are certain things they can measure 170 00:14:30,220 --> 00:14:32,400 at the end when they do the project. 171 00:14:32,700 --> 00:14:38,160 So we'll get this sheet up for the 2025 for those that are interested. 172 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:42,120 What you'll see is some of those projects that were grouped 173 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:44,440 or worked that was done by the highway department. 174 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:50,080 of the highway secretary came up with, you know, the time we spent on it, dollar amount 175 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:54,020 of values or what that possibly saved by doing the work in-house. 176 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:59,440 So it's a pretty, pretty good list overall, don't... 177 00:15:00,140 --> 00:15:28,740 I don't think we have a total on here. That's the one difference is the overall point. I'm sure it won't match the overall total of what was found either because I'm sure there's bits and pieces that are hard. Yes, she doesn't necessarily for this or you know what I mean. It's not itemized down to. Yeah, but it gives you a much better idea or a word. Yes. Thank you for that word. Yes, over there very much. So. 178 00:15:28,740 --> 00:15:33,720 So this year, so you'll see that we do have the Willaparque 179 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:36,400 way storm through a supply project out here. 180 00:15:37,180 --> 00:15:38,720 That did not get done last year. 181 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:42,180 The county contract last year escalated significantly. 182 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:46,680 And we simply didn't have enough money to do it without going 183 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:47,320 over budget. 184 00:15:49,410 --> 00:15:51,660 The county contract numbers this year. 185 00:15:52,060 --> 00:15:54,340 There's a new contractor on county contract. 186 00:15:54,340 --> 00:16:00,160 And they actually went back to the whole pricing that was an old contract. 187 00:16:01,140 --> 00:16:05,460 So we are, we have signed the contract, they are moving forward, we've got the prevailing 188 00:16:05,460 --> 00:16:06,400 weight loss across. 189 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:10,280 They should mobilize to the next 60 days to do that work. 190 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:12,420 So that is our assigned up. 191 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:20,560 The call board replacement, the project's not done, it's 305 here and then the proposed 192 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:20,880 amount. 193 00:16:21,460 --> 00:16:21,660 Okay. 194 00:16:21,660 --> 00:16:23,320 I'm getting there, I'm getting there. 195 00:16:23,980 --> 00:16:31,740 So Willa Parkway, Colbert and Drainage Basin Replacement, we're looking at two things here. 196 00:16:32,780 --> 00:16:39,780 150 would cover all material costs with our guys putting the basins in the cross covers, 197 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:43,040 which they have successfully done in the other locations on Willa Parkway. 198 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:48,640 What it's going to come down to is man hours and available time. 199 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:55,920 but in the very least we didn't need to, with this round of funding, purchase our materials 200 00:16:55,920 --> 00:17:04,280 to get them ordered and on the way. So we will have the materials here, and the reason 201 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:11,040 we're purchasing them right away is there's a 25 out of April 15 storm pipe, the school 202 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:14,560 the period of corrugated glass of pipe is going to have a 25% price increase. 203 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:20,540 I got these shop rallies from Jefferson Country for the catch-basins today. 204 00:17:20,900 --> 00:17:25,940 We're going to go ahead and sign that order after tonight to get the catch-basins into production 205 00:17:25,940 --> 00:17:26,540 in one way. 206 00:17:29,660 --> 00:17:35,880 When we get our funding notice from the state, my understanding is right now all the drafts 207 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:44,380 budget included each 15% increase for ships and state tourist routes. So we 208 00:17:44,380 --> 00:17:49,020 should actually get more funding than we have in the last year when we get our 209 00:17:49,020 --> 00:17:49,560 war letter. 210 00:17:54,060 --> 00:17:57,800 There may be a second one. We do our second phase of this is when 211 00:17:57,800 --> 00:18:03,760 we'll be able to say hey do we have an upman power to complete this? We'll 212 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:07,640 apart with color project ourselves or do we need to bring in Casnell on the 213 00:18:09,500 --> 00:18:14,880 I think there's some efficiencies to be had, I think that we can, with Carl's management, 214 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:21,180 even if we don't do all of them, even if we plug away out of them and get as many as we can 215 00:18:21,180 --> 00:18:27,520 down and then, and August, we have to say, hey, Casnell, send us a crew for two weeks and finish this off. 216 00:18:28,060 --> 00:18:34,000 I would rather do that than continue to ignore the fish. 217 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:41,080 The other thing on this that they will notice is they are on the cover of the show here 218 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:41,720 at this table. 219 00:18:42,140 --> 00:18:51,160 But Rissali has been graciously agreed to extend their pricing from 2025 into 2026 for 220 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:51,480 us. 221 00:18:52,940 --> 00:18:58,400 Reason being they build all of their asphalt tanks at the end of the last season and on their 222 00:18:58,400 --> 00:18:59,360 last year's pricing. 223 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:05,980 and they are, even though they could, you know, say, don't go out for bed again and we're 224 00:19:05,980 --> 00:19:11,040 going to charge you this for pricing. They want our work simply because we're willing 225 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:17,440 to work in the month of May, and we pay quickly, so it helps them from a cash flow standpoint 226 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:23,000 rather than all their other work at state or county DOT work. So the agencies typically 227 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:27,680 pay a bit, take a minimum of 60 days to pay. So for the cash flow standpoint it's nice 228 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:34,380 for them that they can come in and start working in May and get paid, you know, at the end 229 00:19:34,380 --> 00:19:40,540 of May beginning to June, from the Tunnel Eye Center, which helps them carry their operating 230 00:19:40,540 --> 00:19:44,220 costs until they start getting revenue from state and county due teens. 231 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:48,180 So it's favorable 232 00:19:48,180 --> 00:19:54,180 to us. We do have a contract extension clause in the contract, so we can't extend it. 233 00:19:58,060 --> 00:19:58,620 It's 234 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:06,080 At current asphalt industries, the right now our contract last year was $83 a ton, 235 00:20:06,780 --> 00:20:14,900 the amount of current indexes we drew off $104 a ton, based on the April index. 236 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:18,520 So it's a sizeable job. 237 00:20:18,740 --> 00:20:23,660 So it's getting like a little over 20% more work done, at the end of the year. 238 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:30,880 Obviously our street reconstruction work will be able to be done under that contract 239 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:32,520 just because it won't be too ready. 240 00:20:33,380 --> 00:20:40,900 We are one of the other things that we have in here as the West Phoenix Phase 2 price 241 00:20:42,310 --> 00:20:46,790 that accordingly to, we're going to order the CAD bases and we're going to order the storm 242 00:20:46,790 --> 00:20:52,690 pipe but we're not going to be able to paint it until after later in the summer or the 243 00:20:54,030 --> 00:20:59,590 So we're going to be paying the higher rate at that point for that asphalt mine. 244 00:21:04,430 --> 00:21:08,890 We had our normal, you know, round chip ceiling here and some cracks here there as well. 245 00:21:09,610 --> 00:21:16,230 Most of our paving is in Rattison this year with an exception of Greenleast Drive Salt, 246 00:21:16,650 --> 00:21:23,370 which is in the Faraway's, North of the development, Rattison, we're doing some bigger roads 247 00:21:23,370 --> 00:21:29,750 in North Entry and Carpenter. It should be noted that North Entry and Carpenter are a couple 248 00:21:29,750 --> 00:21:36,150 of the older roads and radicine and they are pretty rough. I'll be perfectly honest. We only got 249 00:21:36,150 --> 00:21:41,950 13, one we got 13 years out of from the last time we paved it and the other one we got 14 years 250 00:21:41,950 --> 00:21:48,750 out of from the last time we paved it. I anticipate that there will be binder repairs, probably seeing 251 00:21:48,750 --> 00:21:55,670 have to get minor repairs than those two roads once we open them up. With that being said, 252 00:21:55,910 --> 00:22:05,190 these estimates record that they have a 60% contingency in them. So then that's just based 253 00:22:05,190 --> 00:22:09,710 on what essentially when I do the quantity is add an extra quarter inch which works out to 254 00:22:09,710 --> 00:22:17,270 to be 60% to 60% increase, and that should cover our 255 00:22:17,270 --> 00:22:17,990 binary pairs. 256 00:22:18,730 --> 00:22:22,570 But I do anticipate that we will have costs over 257 00:22:22,570 --> 00:22:24,050 runtime, not in our vendor, 258 00:22:28,670 --> 00:22:29,310 but there's no way to 259 00:22:29,310 --> 00:22:32,860 really until the service is off. 260 00:22:33,060 --> 00:22:33,300 I don't know. 261 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:33,800 You don't know. 262 00:22:34,180 --> 00:22:35,360 I don't know what the binary looks like. 263 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:37,520 But I can say that because the last time we 264 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:40,520 resurfaced it, they didn't hold up green. 265 00:22:49,310 --> 00:22:49,750 OK. 266 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:58,060 I just want to thank Alicia. 267 00:22:58,060 --> 00:23:02,180 again, or anyone else who helped put this together because I have been looking at it as 268 00:23:02,180 --> 00:23:02,280 you said. 269 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:04,260 I have been looking for this for a long time. 270 00:23:04,820 --> 00:23:04,860 Yep. 271 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:05,360 And it's nice. 272 00:23:05,500 --> 00:23:08,880 And I know that it's not a dollar or a dollar, exact. 273 00:23:09,940 --> 00:23:11,780 It's plus or minus as it says on here. 274 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:14,620 But it definitely gives us an idea on how we did. 275 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:15,100 And I'm glad. 276 00:23:15,420 --> 00:23:15,540 Yeah. 277 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:16,280 All right. 278 00:23:16,540 --> 00:23:19,880 I think Carl's changing how they account for things. 279 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:20,440 A little bit. 280 00:23:20,580 --> 00:23:20,740 Yeah. 281 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:21,100 Okay. 282 00:23:21,220 --> 00:23:22,000 All right. 283 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:23,280 That just gives you a better idea. 284 00:23:24,460 --> 00:23:24,840 Thank you. 285 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:25,500 No, it's great. 286 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:26,420 Yeah, it is. 287 00:23:26,740 --> 00:23:33,080 Carl, I know you and Al have been working on this since you've been able to see roads, 288 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:36,280 which hasn't been a long time, but... 289 00:23:37,140 --> 00:23:42,820 There's a lot of need, I mean, bottom line is there's always more need than there truly 290 00:23:42,820 --> 00:23:44,020 is budget to go around. 291 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:54,300 It's tough. Our older subdivisions are aging. 292 00:23:57,150 --> 00:24:03,250 Addison specifically, we're getting to that point where we won't be able to 293 00:24:03,250 --> 00:24:09,690 re-eye it. I'll say this. I don't anticipate that we're resurfacing streets like Carpenter again, North 294 00:24:09,690 --> 00:24:15,790 Entry again, Little Parkway again. We're going to be in a position where we're throwing good money after bad 295 00:24:15,790 --> 00:24:19,090 because we're not getting the life expectancy that we showed out at O'Malleyville, 296 00:24:19,450 --> 00:24:22,110 and we're going to have to do pull that fast-fall rate construction. 297 00:24:24,010 --> 00:24:26,970 And it's going to get expensive. That's just the bottom line. 298 00:24:27,210 --> 00:24:31,830 We also can do right now is try to preserve to the greatest extent possible 299 00:24:31,830 --> 00:24:39,770 and stretch those roads along which, you know, Carl's on the, it's nice to have a highway 300 00:24:39,770 --> 00:24:45,810 superintendents on the same page in the area as far as preservation. So, 301 00:24:48,700 --> 00:24:55,160 we'll do what we can do, but that's kind of a long and short of where we're having this. 302 00:24:55,500 --> 00:25:02,660 We have a lot of older subdivisions that are, you know, even Jeff's name, but he'll live on those streets. 303 00:25:02,660 --> 00:25:10,160 certain, you know, those are made in the built-in 80s, you know, where the life expectancy 304 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:15,500 of an asphalt road is 50 years, where we have the proper maintenance and we know that 305 00:25:15,500 --> 00:25:19,340 for a few years we didn't necessarily do the greatest job with maintenance because we didn't 306 00:25:19,340 --> 00:25:24,780 have the funding. So we can get 50 years out of those roads we're doing really good. 307 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:30,120 Well, and you got to keep good roads good too. Oh, absolutely. And you got to focus on your 308 00:25:30,120 --> 00:25:38,360 your clubbers and your your highest travel routes. Yeah, you know, we can't, you know, that we it's hard to dump 20% of your budget on 309 00:25:38,360 --> 00:25:45,980 gravity. Uh, uh, you know, I mean, I think not that those western roads shouldn't, uh, get attention, but it has to be preservation 310 00:25:45,980 --> 00:25:56,860 attention rather than reconstruction. Right. I mean, you get into the, you know, people ask, why do we stone an oil out in the suburbs? You know, a pay 311 00:25:56,860 --> 00:26:03,200 Everyone is not going to hold up to the tractor traffic in the agricultural business that uses those areas. 312 00:26:03,940 --> 00:26:06,860 And then the other part is how the road was originally built. 313 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:13,020 I know he had swamp road this week, which is built on obviously swamp and railroad types. 314 00:26:13,540 --> 00:26:20,360 So you can't go putting a great top coat on something that's not going to stay there in a year or two. 315 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:24,640 You can't throw the money away on those roads unfortunately. 316 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:30,420 and you can't, you don't have a good answer without spending half million dollars on how 317 00:26:30,420 --> 00:26:36,760 to do the road appropriately. So, you know, we do, we do what we can with what we offer 318 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:41,580 and what we think we can afford and, you know, what we can do for the road. 319 00:26:41,940 --> 00:26:46,660 The state funding increases, that's a couple years, it really made a big difference. 320 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:50,300 Right. And eventually that'll end. 321 00:26:50,860 --> 00:26:51,760 Hopefully that does. 322 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:59,080 I know but a lot of that money is trickled down and we'll see how far it trickles down 323 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:00,480 with this year's budget. 324 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:06,220 So thank you, thank you both for all your work and the rest of the highway department. 325 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:14,020 The next item I have on the agenda is the club update grant offered by Anadaga County. 326 00:27:14,020 --> 00:27:22,960 So, as everybody recalls, our club was adopted in 2023, literally a couple of months after 327 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:23,360 Micron. 328 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:31,500 Current comprehensive land use plan does not consider any effects of the Micron development. 329 00:27:33,860 --> 00:27:36,440 Micron, the camp barrier had in the stand. 330 00:27:36,660 --> 00:27:38,720 We have to be honest with ourselves in the residents. 331 00:27:39,700 --> 00:27:41,480 Micron's going to affect the complex. 332 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:43,660 There is no other way to say it. 333 00:27:43,860 --> 00:27:45,760 We're going to see development pressure. 334 00:27:46,760 --> 00:28:03,300 That element and pressure can be controlled and provide community benefits, but we need to look at how we want to structure that controlled growth and what kind of benefits we want to see happen for the community associated with that growth. 335 00:28:03,300 --> 00:28:07,580 So, this is a very generous offer from the county. 336 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:11,420 I would like to get 337 00:28:14,360 --> 00:28:18,360 the committee, you know, to update the Comprehensive Lab, he has 338 00:28:18,360 --> 00:28:21,280 been established here the next month or two. 339 00:28:22,060 --> 00:28:29,860 I'm going to work with CHA on coming up with a scope to help us with that this time rather 340 00:28:29,860 --> 00:28:31,360 than trying to do it all in a house. 341 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:38,820 This is, you know, this is just going to be different than what we've seen in my statement 342 00:28:38,820 --> 00:28:39,260 before. 343 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:45,140 And I think they have planners on the staff that can help us in that regard, or they 344 00:28:45,140 --> 00:28:47,620 do have planners on that staff that can help us in that regard. 345 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:54,420 And those people, you know, provide a service that I'm not necessarily trained and knowledgeable 346 00:28:54,420 --> 00:28:56,400 but I'm not a professional planner. 347 00:28:56,400 --> 00:29:03,520 So, maybe we should bring some plurifasional planters into help us as we work through this process, 348 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:11,120 and in team with the, just like we did before, team with on down in County Planning Agency to work through this. 349 00:29:13,700 --> 00:29:14,220 It's 350 00:29:16,340 --> 00:29:25,320 something that that is going to be a key role in what life standard looks like in the next 25 years. 351 00:29:26,790 --> 00:29:33,770 and making it look like what we wanted to look like as a community rather than something we don't want. 352 00:29:35,130 --> 00:29:35,610 Yeah. 353 00:29:35,930 --> 00:29:38,690 Out of that county planning had reached out to us last year. 354 00:29:38,910 --> 00:29:42,050 Troy Waffer oversees the planning department and out of that county. 355 00:29:43,730 --> 00:29:46,990 Many municipalities that have an update on them in quite some time. 356 00:29:46,990 --> 00:29:53,710 The county's reached out offered, you know, 20, 30 to $50,000 to assist them with updating their clubs. 357 00:29:54,550 --> 00:29:59,970 You know, I'm accounting and it's because without those things, it's hard to... 358 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:29,920 Try to get funding without having an updated club. And the other part is, if it hasn't been updated in 5, 10, 15, 20, 30 years, it's obviously you're not moving forward. You might even be developing an opposition to what your last plan that you created for the town says of what you're, you know, what your proposed development is moving forward. When, when the club update was done, it was given a very specific 359 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:46,000 a specific scope. It wasn't gone from top to bottom. It was a pretty specific area of the previous supervisor and requested, which is fine. You don't have to update the whole thing at the time it was started, which was right around COVID, which of course then the elastic year. 360 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:49,780 You know, it seemed like a good thing. 361 00:30:50,060 --> 00:30:52,900 You got into 2022 and 23 and all of a sudden, 362 00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:55,900 a micron announcement comes with drastically effects. 363 00:30:56,580 --> 00:30:59,780 The, uh, treasure-long development that we could see, 364 00:30:59,960 --> 00:31:01,680 or we had seen in light sander, 365 00:31:01,860 --> 00:31:03,740 and what could possibly change for us. 366 00:31:03,900 --> 00:31:08,820 So, um, I think this is a good thing to go forward on, 367 00:31:09,060 --> 00:31:11,940 um, you know, creating a committee, 368 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:15,240 getting with the county on what they offer for resources. 369 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:21,180 is usually most of what they offer is in kind contributions with planning 370 00:31:21,180 --> 00:31:28,360 assistance, but it's it's something we don't have. We don't have the resources 371 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:33,240 that the county does for those planning purposes to be able to work on that. 372 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:40,500 Yeah, I mean it's just something that I don't think we should have more. We want to be 373 00:31:40,500 --> 00:31:44,560 ahead of it. We don't want to. We can see what unorganized development looks like 374 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:46,300 and it's the cold springs for this one. 375 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:53,220 On the bottom line, that's what we need to avoid 376 00:31:53,220 --> 00:31:58,200 that podge of, you know, I'm going to have a development here 377 00:31:58,200 --> 00:31:59,960 that's not connected to this development. 378 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,080 We need to have a long range of planning 379 00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:07,100 to make development flow and have the connections 380 00:32:07,100 --> 00:32:13,280 that it needs to have long-term rather than what 381 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:17,340 what we were trying to get over the last 30, 40 years up close because 382 00:32:22,940 --> 00:32:23,580 it's something 383 00:32:23,580 --> 00:32:28,860 we really need to look into the transportation or our room and district in this 384 00:32:28,860 --> 00:32:34,280 comprehensive land use plan specifically for the extra room and road area to 385 00:32:35,300 --> 00:32:40,240 fund what we know are going to be needed from a highway improvement standpoint 386 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:47,440 so that we don't get to a point where a third of that land gets developed we got 387 00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:52,940 traffic problem and the traffic problem is so costly that nobody else will come 388 00:32:52,940 --> 00:32:57,320 into fix what's needed, whether it be turn lanes singles around about 389 00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:07,960 five corners to make that you know essentially the last guy in can't can't 390 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:13,200 bear all that word so it would force everybody that's developing in that area 391 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:23,500 We had to contribute to that cost, the town of Hartford has done this. 392 00:33:29,100 --> 00:33:33,840 There's a few towns across the state that have done these transportation over the district 393 00:33:35,300 --> 00:33:41,500 and the event's successful is, you know, commercial driving to Harper is a very 394 00:33:41,500 --> 00:33:47,140 example of what can be done there. To fund those improvements so that you can 395 00:33:47,140 --> 00:33:51,840 have that flow of growth and continued growth without getting to these 396 00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:58,700 stoppy points where you have no mechanism to address, you know, traffic problems when 397 00:33:58,700 --> 00:34:01,500 and they occur because, you know, the electoral, 398 00:34:02,540 --> 00:34:04,900 Dixie, the volume of the road network 399 00:34:04,900 --> 00:34:07,900 can make people pay into that road network. 400 00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:15,800 So what, I mean, first, my next step is to start looking 401 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:19,280 for a committee, and then we'll talk 402 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:21,500 with Troy Wathner at the county. 403 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:30,960 But it's something that we, yeah, it's a process. 404 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:37,940 This isn't like next we're not coming back at the next meeting with a plan. This is it's a process and it should be 405 00:34:38,540 --> 00:34:43,040 We should move with it. Yeah, so we should have a committee established, you know 406 00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:48,440 In the next yeah, I laid spring and a maybe we should have the committee establish and 407 00:34:52,340 --> 00:34:54,100 get the process start 408 00:34:54,820 --> 00:34:55,080 It 409 00:34:57,580 --> 00:34:59,680 takes to get through with this process and 410 00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:03,360 in a year 411 00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:03,440 here. 412 00:35:05,630 --> 00:35:09,470 Within the next year we're going to start to see some of that pressure of, we're 413 00:35:09,470 --> 00:35:14,270 already seeing it into some of these, but I think we're going to see more here, especially 414 00:35:14,270 --> 00:35:18,230 the commercial industrial side within the next year, that it's going to be some of these 415 00:35:18,230 --> 00:35:18,370 people. 416 00:35:20,500 --> 00:35:24,820 Yeah. The insularity developed into support by the ground has to look. 417 00:35:27,740 --> 00:35:27,880 Okay. 418 00:35:31,220 --> 00:35:37,020 Mr. Mangins absent because his plane was delayed, I was texting him while we were, he was 419 00:35:37,020 --> 00:35:41,480 planning I'm getting in but he was delayed so he will not be in attendance tonight. 420 00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:46,960 Last item on the work session is CHA Hayes Road sewer study proposal. 421 00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:56,120 So we did the culturing sewer study for the utility and funding application that we put 422 00:35:56,120 --> 00:36:05,380 in the last two years. It did not include the Red Rock and Hayes Road corridor so 423 00:36:09,190 --> 00:36:10,070 one of 424 00:36:10,070 --> 00:36:12,950 of the requirements to, for some of the grantees, 425 00:36:13,050 --> 00:36:15,110 you have to have a preliminary sewer study done 426 00:36:15,110 --> 00:36:17,010 to be eligible to receive the grant, 427 00:36:19,270 --> 00:36:23,590 because that area is included in the CDBG funding area, 428 00:36:23,590 --> 00:36:25,550 which indicates it's a low income, 429 00:36:26,410 --> 00:36:28,990 qualified for low income subsidies. 430 00:36:30,420 --> 00:36:34,470 We shouldn't incorporate that into the study 431 00:36:34,470 --> 00:36:35,930 that was previously done. 432 00:36:36,710 --> 00:36:39,490 This previous study was paid for with ARPA fund. 433 00:36:39,490 --> 00:36:41,410 I know we were underbudging on that one. 434 00:36:41,570 --> 00:36:43,590 In fact, we were underbudging on that. 435 00:36:45,770 --> 00:36:50,130 But I would like to, there's some work here to do this. 436 00:36:51,230 --> 00:36:53,530 Consolidated funding applications come on July. 437 00:36:54,310 --> 00:37:01,230 I would like to get CHA started on this work sooner rather than later so that it's done and ready. 438 00:37:02,150 --> 00:37:07,290 What we get to the point of what we have to submit 439 00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:10,600 the Consolidated funding. 440 00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:14,240 So we've got basically three months. 441 00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:22,280 Oh, here's the ask is the price tag of the project is $20,000. 442 00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:27,440 We weren't that far under budget on the original post-pracetime. 443 00:37:29,240 --> 00:37:35,920 I think we're under budget on some other ARPA projects too, but we can't because we had 444 00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:44,640 to distribute ARPA funds within that purview of that project, so the ARPA funds have sailed 445 00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:53,520 on that end. So the ask of the board is, you know, are we going to pull the $20,000 446 00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:59,800 out of like an unappropriated fund balance or find the money to try to get this project 447 00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:06,220 in with our grant application this fall? I'm sorry this summer. Which being said, if the 448 00:38:06,220 --> 00:38:09,980 district is formed, if this moves forward, we get grant funding, if the district is formed, 449 00:38:09,980 --> 00:38:15,180 this cost would go back to the district. There are some monies that we haven't used 450 00:38:15,180 --> 00:38:20,700 that we appropriate towards like those flat cameras for example 45 grand we 451 00:38:20,700 --> 00:38:25,260 could use that money. Yeah we had put 21 grand in the budget in the traffic 452 00:38:25,260 --> 00:38:34,300 control devices for flat that obviously we're not moving forward. I mean that's 453 00:38:34,300 --> 00:38:38,680 okay I mean that's that's not a problem that's why I wanted to bring it to the 454 00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:44,120 board. I'm going to put a note on the sheet. Traffic. 455 00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:49,020 Technically when you're ready to do it, 456 00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:54,240 do it with dual budget budget. Yeah, yeah. And Comptroller will have it drawn up at the 457 00:38:54,240 --> 00:38:58,780 next meeting and move it from traffic control to the. Yeah, it's just one of those things 458 00:38:58,780 --> 00:39:03,820 that I want to be ahead of it so that the report's done and ready. Right. When the grant applications 459 00:39:03,820 --> 00:39:11,320 Well, this is, you know, this is the hard part, the red rock area with the grinder pumps 460 00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:16,260 and all of this is going to be the big cost part of the district. 461 00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:22,700 This is the heavy lift on that end, and it's a heavy lift on the engineering part too. 462 00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:30,580 This isn't, you know, we had the initial, oh, breeze by, this is where, okay, we draw diagrams 463 00:39:30,580 --> 00:39:33,480 and, you know, depths to be able to apply. 464 00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:39,820 This is the start of the endless and I can do this work. 465 00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:41,620 I've done pressure sewer work before. 466 00:39:42,500 --> 00:39:44,200 But I'm not efficient at it. 467 00:39:44,380 --> 00:39:47,780 And they have people that are very efficient at it and do a good job. 468 00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:51,240 And we'll be able to push this along in and watch faster, 469 00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:52,000 ready for my office. 470 00:39:55,540 --> 00:39:55,720 Yeah. 471 00:39:57,580 --> 00:40:02,580 So I'll draw that up for the next meeting so we can do the transfer agenda. 472 00:40:03,340 --> 00:40:15,680 No, we don't have that on the agenda and this isn't no, yeah, this isn't like a no, I just want to move the meter kind of. Yeah, we've got to put the application in the end of June. 473 00:40:16,020 --> 00:40:28,680 They come on in to do their new middle of July. Middle, okay. Yeah, so so we're going to do it and so on that effect, the CFA grants, they take the grant we apply last year in massaging. That's not starting over. 474 00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:38,460 You know, when we put this application in previous, and now we're, um, we finally jumped 475 00:40:38,460 --> 00:40:44,240 through the hurdles and got our approval for, uh, for our, um, what's the, sorry pro housing 476 00:40:45,100 --> 00:40:52,220 community, which is a big scary word, but the growth of life sander easily qualified as 477 00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:03,260 And the only way to apply for this kind of grant money is to be a pro-housing community 478 00:41:03,260 --> 00:41:06,500 and that is the governor's purview. 479 00:41:06,980 --> 00:41:11,400 So if that's not something, if you're not there, you're not applying for these kind 480 00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:11,840 of grants. 481 00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:13,380 The same thing. 482 00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:19,300 There's some other grades that we maybe want to look into, but we have to become a certified 483 00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:20,400 energy. 484 00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:22,900 That might be a tougher one. 485 00:41:23,240 --> 00:41:28,420 I can't remember when they get the program. 486 00:41:28,740 --> 00:41:28,980 Yes. 487 00:41:29,500 --> 00:41:29,720 Yes. 488 00:41:30,460 --> 00:41:33,260 We have to embrace renewable energy. 489 00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:33,820 Right. 490 00:41:34,620 --> 00:41:36,060 But it could be a dividend sludge. 491 00:41:37,020 --> 00:41:40,420 The way we define the water friendly 492 00:41:40,420 --> 00:41:42,560 idealization project scope, 493 00:41:43,940 --> 00:41:46,660 all the housing along in the river there 494 00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:53,700 It is in that area and I talked to the bar for people and they said possibly we might 495 00:41:53,700 --> 00:41:57,220 be able to get some grants for a sewer as along that area as well. 496 00:41:57,480 --> 00:41:57,760 Right. 497 00:41:58,000 --> 00:41:59,460 That's where the part of that project. 498 00:41:59,900 --> 00:42:00,060 Yeah. 499 00:42:00,780 --> 00:42:01,200 Yes. 500 00:42:01,540 --> 00:42:01,680 Yeah. 501 00:42:02,240 --> 00:42:07,180 I'm going to talk about the LWRP because I was not able to attend the meeting. 502 00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:11,020 I was not feeling well and it wouldn't have been a good place for me to be. 503 00:42:12,420 --> 00:42:14,940 You know, I'm going to address some of the comments that were made. 504 00:42:14,940 --> 00:42:20,120 I've watched the video that Peck B took. So I'm going to hit that on Supervisor's comments. 505 00:42:20,780 --> 00:42:27,540 But yeah, the LWRP and all these projects and studies we do are so we can apply and have 506 00:42:27,540 --> 00:42:32,220 our best opportunity of getting grant funds to get some of that money that we pay to state back 507 00:42:32,220 --> 00:42:37,720 to bring them back in-house. So there are hoops she have to jump through and it's not cheap. 508 00:42:37,720 --> 00:42:47,000 So, unfortunately, this is the game you have to play, but that's where the grades are set 509 00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:51,280 up now so that you've got a stake in the game and you've already invested in your money 510 00:42:51,940 --> 00:42:54,660 before the state will throw their money on. 511 00:42:59,890 --> 00:43:04,230 Did any other board members have anything at this time? 512 00:43:10,010 --> 00:43:10,690 Okay. 513 00:43:12,810 --> 00:43:17,130 I just wanted to make sure we didn't need, because we did need a brief executive 514 00:43:17,130 --> 00:43:25,810 session. Yeah. Regarding employment history of a particular employee. So, I have that 515 00:43:25,810 --> 00:43:37,530 It will end the work session at 614, but if I could get a motion for an executive session regarding employment history of a particular employee. 516 00:43:39,190 --> 00:43:44,130 Mr. Schmidt, first, Mr. Krueger-Ockert's second, all in favor. 517 00:43:44,630 --> 00:43:44,750 Aye. 518 00:43:45,330 --> 00:43:47,030 All right, yes, motion carried. 519 00:43:47,830 --> 00:43:49,370 We're in executive session. 520 00:43:50,110 --> 00:43:52,790 We'll come back out of executive session where we're done in. 521 00:43:53,110 --> 00:43:55,730 And the executive session, that ends the work session.