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You are in attendance, just so that way, you know, you are in attendance tonight at the City of

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Mayewaldson Planning Commission regular meeting tonight, August 6, 20, 2026. My name is Dante

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Philpada. I'm your planning commission chair. We are going to go through a couple of cases

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this evening. So first and foremost, we always like to thank you guys for coming out and

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making sure that you are a part of this process.

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As we've said many times before,

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your voice is needed, it's wanted,

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and it is taken into serious consideration

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as we hear these cases.

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So what I first like to do is I wanna make sure

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that we go through our roll call

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to ensure that we have a quorum tonight.

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So commissioners, when you hear your name,

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please acknowledge your presence.

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So, I will start, I am Commissioner Dante Filipide and I presume that I am here.

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Commissioner Robin Meyer, she is not here but she is accounted for.

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Commissioner Kim Blunt is not here but she is accounted for.

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And next is Commissioner Cheryl Davis is not here but she is accounted for.

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Commissioner Gerard Geter.

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President.

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Commissioner Moonsier-Nakui.

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President.

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And last but not least, Commissioner Carl Bellanzano.

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All right, so let the record reflect. We do have a quorum this evening.

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So the next item on the agenda is item number three, which is the approval of minutes.

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As a planning commission, so just so that way, there is no confusion.

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We have two meeting minutes to approve the July 2nd regular meeting minutes.

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and then the July 30 of 2026 work session minutes.

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So hopefully everyone has had the opportunity to review

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both of those sets of meeting minutes.

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I know that there was, I think there was one or two edits

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for the July second meeting and I think those edits

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have been reflected in the copies that we have on the table

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in front of us.

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But I will pause here for a moment to make sure

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or just, you know, see if there's any additional edits that need to be made before we approve

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these minutes. And the floor is open for any planning commissioner that spots any discrepancies

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that need to be updated.

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All right. And I think I spoke with staff. There is one small edit that needs

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to be made in the July 2nd minutes. And that is just, that's the location for REC 2026-005. It is

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mentioning 245 Honeycut, so we need to just change that address to the correct address.

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That's the only other edit that I am, excuse me, that I would make to the minutes.

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And I'll make one last call if there's any, if you guys spot anything else in the minutes

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that need to be edited or adjusted,

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okay?

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if not then let's see here yeah we'll start with July 2nd so if not so we'll start

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with with the July 2nd meeting minutes I make a motion to approve the July 2nd

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meeting minutes with the with the one additional edit for RAC 2026-005 to

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change the location from 245 honeycut to 630 Riverside Parkway I'll make that

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motion to approve. Do we have a second. We have a second from Commissioner Jeter. Do you have

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that? Lithemo? Yeah. Okay, perfect. All right. All in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed say nay?

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The ayes have it. So July second meeting minutes approved and we will move to the July 30th meeting

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minutes. And that is again, that's the work session meeting minutes. So again, those

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should have been sent out. Again, I didn't see personally. I didn't see anything that

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needed to be edited from the meeting minutes on July 30th, but I will pause here for the

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floor just in case you guys have spotted anything that needs to be called out to staff.

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So,

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if there are no edits to the July 30th work session minutes, then I'll make a motion

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to approve the July 30th work session minutes.

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Do we, can we get a second?

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Second.

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All right.

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We have a second from Commissioner Nakui.

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All in favor of approval?

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Say aye.

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The aye's have it.

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So, let the record reflect.

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Both have been approved.

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Okay, so that is item number three, we will, so item number four is organizational and procedural items.

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I don't think we have anything, there's nothing from any of the planning commissioners that we needed to present for tonight's meeting, the staff or council have anything for us to present for it to present.

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Okay, thank you.

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So we will move past item number four, and before we move into the cases this evening,

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I like to take just a minute or two just to make sure that we go over the House rules as we like to call it

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because we want to make sure that in these planning commission hearings they are conducted in a manner that is efficient as well as

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I'll say uneventful as much as possible but as professional as we can possibly keep

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it so that way everyone gets everything that they can out of these meetings.

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So first thing, each case is called in numerical order.

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When the case is called, we ask that the applicant stand and raise your hand to show that you

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are here.

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Then we're going to call to see if anyone is opposed to the case.

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We would ask that anyone that's opposed to the case, please stand and raise your hand or you don't necessarily have to stand just raise your hand to make sure that you are accounted for and we will also ask if there's anyone here that is in support of any particular case.

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Again, you don't have to raise your hand. You don't have to stand. You can just simply raise your hand so that way we can enter it into record anyone that's here in support of or opposed. We make sure that is recorded.

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Each side will get 10 minutes to state your case or raise your concerns.

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And let me repeat that each side will get 10 minutes.

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So you guys can share how it is that you want to if one person speaks 10 minutes

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or if you spread it out amongst 20 people, you'll have 10 minutes.

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But again, each side will get 10 minutes to state your case or raise your concerns.

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There is not a rebuttal process or rebuttal period.

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So please make sure that you convey all of the information

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to the planning commission within your 10-minute period,

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additionally, and I'll kind of harp on this again,

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if there's more than one person that wishes to speak on a case,

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whether you are in support of or opposition to,

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just make sure that you guys kind of coordinate

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as best you can, coordinate and just, I guess,

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discuss whatever points you want to talk about,

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and that's just simply to ensure that you don't cover

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the same information over and over again.

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However, if that's what you choose to do, it is totally up to you.

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After both sides have exhausted their 10-minute period, the Planning Commission, as a body

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we will start to discuss the case in front of us.

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From that discussion, the Planning Commission may request speakers to come back to the podium

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for additional information or ask questions.

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After that, the Planning Commission will render a, we will make a recommendation.

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We don't make, we don't decide the cases here this evening.

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We simply make a recommendation that goes to, to City Council.

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Once it goes in front of City Council, City Council will then make a decision that is, no

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file, intense, and purposes that decision is binding.

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So whatever, whatever recommendation the Planning Commission makes, whether it's up or down,

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It could go the city council they could rule in the same way, or they can go the totally

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opposite direction.

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It just depends on how you guys state your case if you make any changes, edits, whatever

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Additionally, we ask that you turn your cell phones off or put them on mute just simply because

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given the small size of the meeting room, we want to make sure that those in attendance

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is that there's no unnecessary noise or distractions.

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And again, it's also distracting for us

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as a planning commission to hear cell phones going off

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and also side conversations.

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We ask that you limit those.

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If you need to have a side conversation,

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we would simply and kindly ask that you step out

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outside of those doors behind you

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and have that conversation out there

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but still keep it at a conversational level.

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Because as you can see, there's really no walls there

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to door and it's paper thin so we can still hear it.

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So again, we're trying to minimize the distractions

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and we're trying to make sure that we are focused

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on the applicant and the people speaking.

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And I think the last thing that I will call out here

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is if there's anyone that has made any kind

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of contributions to mayor and council

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or particularly maybe the applicant,

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We would ask that, you know, make sure that that information is made known.

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Again, you just want to make sure that we remove as best we can any inkling of it in propriety.

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So again, we just want to make sure that information is laid out there,

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and nothing is being hidden from the public.

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So with that, now that we have those house rules out there in the open,

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We will move to item 58 unfinished business, which is REEZ 2026-005, SDP acquisitions.

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Good evening. All right, this first case that we'll be presenting is 630 Riverside Parkway.

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This is rezoning 2026-005. This is a request, this property is currently zone light industrial.

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The applicant had originally requested to rezone this property at a heavy industrial for the development of a 10,800 square foot building for storage of trucks and outdoor equipment.

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The applicant is SDP acquisitions LLC. This property is 8.83 acres and its future land use is priority industrial area.

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here we see the zoning map and the future land use map. You see the property is currently

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zone light industrial with other light industrial properties in the vicinity. There's some

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hi further down the road and then it also is adjacent to our 20s zoning and on the future

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land use which is there on the other side shows the property in the priority industrial area.

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here this is our current comp plan modified from Cobb County's current

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comprehensive plan and the compatible zoning districts for the industrial

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compatible area is OS, T.S., and light industrial. This is what really drove

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staff's recommendation for rather than the H.I. to consider keeping it L.I. with

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additional stipulations and we'll review those here soon. Here we see the

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location of the property. It's currently undeveloped. And then this is the

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revised site plan that has been provided by the applicant. I wonder. I like

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this way better. Okay just to kind of summarize if you see my dot. Oh it doesn't

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display up there. You see it? Small. You can see the location of the fences and the

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gates. This does include two gates at the entrances and a location of fence. We'll come back

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to this if needed to talk about the location of the different fencing.

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This is new information that was provided by the applicant. This may not be in your packet

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because it just came over today, but it is discussing increased landscaping in the area and they

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are requesting the decorative fence to be in a limited area which is slightly different

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then staff's recommendation, but we'll come back to this as well.

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And here's the elevation that was provided with not with the original application, but

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this is updated as well.

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Based on the work session discussions, we discussed the opportunity for additional brick.

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So this does show full brick on the Riverside Parkway side as well as the circled areas are

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where we discussed additional brick.

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So we discussed the additional brick placement around the doors, the front door, and then

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a water table by the garage doors which is illustrated by these red lines.

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Here you'll find the criteria

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that we use when we're reviewing all rezoning decisions. And then the next thing here are our

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stipulations. The applicant did provide a letter of agreeable stipulations. I did not include that

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in this presentation, but I'll read through those.

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There we go.

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Meeting of the property is to the L.I. zoning district with a variance to allow gravel parking as depicted on the submittal site plan attached as exhibit A. The following uses shall not be permitted on the property, assembly hall, bus station, church, club, or lodge, community fair, dairy, dry cleaning plant, funeral home, golf course, group home, livestock sales, provision, pawn shop, and homeless shelter. During the plan review, the applicant shall submit a detailed lighting plan, demonstrating

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that site lighting will be directional and aimed away from the residential property and roadways.

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No bulk storage of hazardous materials shall be permitted on the property.

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Outdoor noise generating activity shall be limited during nighttime hours between 11 p.m. and 7 a.m.

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consistent with the city of Mableton's noise ordinance found in chapter 13 of the city of Mableton code of ordinances.

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The site shall be developed substantially consistent with the submitted site plan,

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including landscaping, to screen parking areas,

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and enclosure of the site with a final coded chain link fence.

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Anodized, aluminum fencing shall be installed

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along the Riverside Parkway Frontage

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as depicted on the submitted site plan,

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and the architecture of the proposed building shall be consistent

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with the attached exhibit B.

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What staff has done is taken these stipulations

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and reviewed it against what staff's original recommendation was

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and kind of reworded a few things.

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And so we are recommending that we adopt

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all the stipulations presented in the letter of agreeable conditions.

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There was some discussion during the work session regarding the hours of operation

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and the staff's recommendation was outdoor noise generating activities

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shall not occur within the hours of 10 p.m. and 8 a.m.

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This is slightly different than what you had discussed during your work session

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and is also worded opposite. In your original recommendation you were talking about

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when they can have these activities and in this it's worded when they cannot.

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That's something you can talk through with the applicant, Commissioner Philpott does have the original hours that you had discussed, which are smaller than what I included here.

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Number three, the Anodized Illuminum Fencing shall be installed between the two road entrances with design subject to the approval of the Community Development Director.

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All Fencing shall be installed behind a landscape buffer ranging from 10 to 20 feet.

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What I've highlighted here are points of discussion where there's some

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difference with some of the current information that we received from the

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applicant earlier today. There's number four regarding outdoor storage.

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Outdoor storage shall be limited to gravel area on the site plan and is limited

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to heavy equipment such as but not limited to dozers, loaders,

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compactors, cranes, and the like in excess of 12,500 pounds or semi-tracker

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trailers. General outdoor storage is not permitted. Outdoor storage, loading

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Supporting activities and heavy truck operations shall be concentrated toward the interior

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and eastern portions of the property to minimize impacts on adjacent residential uses.

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A minimum 50-foot natural-undisturbed buffer shall be maintained and enhanced along the

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southern property line, adjoining the R-20 districts supplemented with evergreen landscaping

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to provide an opaque visual screen.

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The required stream buffer shall be permanently protected by a recorded conservation easement

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prior to the issuance of the land disturbance permit, no grading, clearing, filling or material

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storage or other land disturbance shall occur within the stream buffer.

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The outdoor storage area shall be enclosed by an 8-foot fence and screened from White

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Road and Riverside with a minimum of 20-foot landscape buffer.

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With one tree planted every 20 feet, no fencing or storage shall be located within any setback,

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except fencing may be in the front staff back for security of the front parking lot as shown

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on the site plan.

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Landscaping strips along White Road and Riverside Parkway shall be installed in accordance with

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city of Mabelton, Zoning, Lawrence, and Apical Land Skate standards, including required street

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trees, access shall be limited to approved driveways on White Road and Riverside Parkway

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with pavement designed to accommodate heavy truck traffic, truck parking staging and idling

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on White Road and Riverside Parkway shall be prohibited, all such activities shall occur

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on site.

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Oh, and then there's more.

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Oh, goodness.

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Okay.

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gravel parking shall only be permitted within the designated equipment and trailer storage

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areas shown on the approved site plan.

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which would be allowed in the H.I.Zoning District as stated in 718 C for heavy industrial properties.

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All storage areas shall be located behind Fencing with final Fence Design subject to approval that community development director.

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Fence shall be located no closer than the front of the building along Riverside Parkway. Fencing along Bob White Road shall be located behind a 20-foot landscape buffer with final placement subject to approval.

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Employee parking needs to be on concrete.

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and then we're talking about the final architectural plans.

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Building shall include a full brick facade facing Riverside Parkway

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and substantial brick along the white road frontage to include full brick around the entry

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with a minimum of four foot brick water table for the remaining frontage.

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And that's as shown on that elevation.

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They must comply with the outside agency comments.

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And then the gates to the parking lot shall be located a minimum of 50 foot from the right of way

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unless otherwise approved by Cobb D.O.T. and then in red I did add, as I was putting together

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a presentation, that the gates shall remain open during operating hours.

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You will not find that red language in your staff report, but I do remember that was

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conversation.

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All right, and that is a lot of words, but just to summarize staff's recommendation and the

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applicant are pretty consistent, but the two differences are where the decorative fence

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is located versus the chain link and then also what does that outdoor storage

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consist of? Staff's recommendation was based on the big difference between heavy

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industrial and light industrial and this specific case is that gravel

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parking and gravel parking is allowed in heavy industrial but just in those

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specific areas for the heavy equipment. There was some conversation during work

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session about what would be stored there. We didn't want junk, we didn't want

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The applicant does want to have additional outdoor storage if possible to include other

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things that you might see in light industrial.

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They had some examples, landscaping equipment, pipes, things of that nature.

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So if you are open to having the outdoor storage in that area to include more than just would

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be allowed to be parked on the gravel based on the heavy industrial, then you can expand

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that stipulation.

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All right.

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And that ends my presentation.

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Thank you.

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So, let's make sure that we have this entered into record.

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Do we have the applicant or the applicant's representatives here this evening, okay?

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Okay.

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So the team of they are here.

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Do we have anyone here that is in support of this application?

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Just by show of hands.

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We have two.

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Conversely, do we have anyone here that is in opposition to this application?

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We have one.

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No, you're okay. I just want to pull up the site plan.

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You're okay.

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So, we need a time keeper for the ten minutes unless

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you want me to do it.

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Okay. That's quite fine.

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While they're doing that, if you guys want to step to the podium,

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and they will give you the the thumbs up when when you're ready to roll.

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I'm leaving this here right well

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chairman

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ready whenever you are whenever they you guys are ready. Okay on you.

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Time are starting. Good evening. My name is Adam Rosen. I'm an attorney with the law firm Rosen Rosen and Riley. We're in Marrietta, Georgia.

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I mean, I'm here tonight for the applicant.

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You haven't seen me before.

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Park's Huff is the attorney that is a record in this case.

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It filed the application and has represented them in this process.

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He's a former boss of mine, but had a conflict tonight.

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It was not able to be here.

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So you might be speaking more into the mic so that way, the viewing audience,

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and how can you as well?

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Got it. Thank you.

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So I'm here for him tonight, and your applicant is here.

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There's three of us, three of them here tonight as well who also weren't part of the original team probably that was here the prior hearing so to the extent you have questions of us please let me know and I think between the two of us will be able to answer those.

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We've been able to or me particularly been able to catch up to I think where you are today and I'll try to focus more on what Miss Garver has pointed to as far as the two kind of differences between where things are.

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and what's already, I think, consistent between our stipulations and the staff conditions maybe leave that to the side unless more discussion is needed as far as those go.

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So just to kind of pick back up a little bit, so the request was originally from heavy industrial to heavy industrial and it's been recommended in parks letter, which was referenced earlier, which is the July 30 letter.

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are agreeing to allow that request to be deleted to light industrial.

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And so back to what the original zoning is, but with the addition of having the gravel

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parking area for storage and parking.

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And I think one of the important parts about this that be applicant and that I consistently

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hear from applicants like them that are looking at placing users and tenants and properties

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like this, is they need the ability to have that gravel parking area not only for equipment storage,

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whether it's the heavy equipment that Ms. Carver has referenced in her conditions as being allowed,

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anything over 12,500 pounds, or equipment that's less than that.

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But often, often you'll have what she also referenced earlier like a piping contractor

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that needs somewhere to store that pipe material that they're going to take on site

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when they do go to that job in addition to their equipment and their trucks.

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And so I think the hard part is how do you define the difference between we're not just going to allow accumulation of junk and an outdoor rubbish like you might be fearful of but we need the ability to have more than just a backhoe and a truck parked outside.

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There may be a need to have equipment. So that's kind of the difference between what staff is recommended and what they'd like to see be allowed in addition to the way that that staff wrote that condition.

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Looking at the site plan, what was also referenced as a little bit of the difference

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between what staff's recommendation is and what your applicant is proposing, looking

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in the middle where the red outline of the anonymized fences, what the applicant is proposing

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is that yes, we agree that that higher end, more decorative, anonymized fence can be in that

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front section there. We want that front section to be open from landscaping visible towards

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the front facade of the building. I guess it's right behind the busier. In this section here,

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but that we want to landscape this area more heavily to be consistent with what's recommended for

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that landscape buffer in the front, but also because we want it to be screened, that is what the

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landscaping exhibits that we submitted I guess I'm not

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waiting on you to change it if I change it yeah which is here and so this would

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be the front and that's that break where we show the decorative style fence the

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higher end the anodized fencing breaking the landscaping and then back to the side

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see here Bob White wrote view and so instead of having that decorative fence going

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all the way down this section in a peer where it's heavily landscaped and it's not going to be seen

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to go back to the chain link, the vinyl coated chain link fence for these sections here.

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And so I think that's just with the way the staff recommendation is written. That's the distinction

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between that and the site plan. Mr. Huff's letter by referencing our site plan and in the way that he

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writes it, I think covers that to explain that we're going to build it to look like this. That

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Fencing that that is recommended would be here and then landscaping on their side including it still have fencing all long and

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gated as originally planned but the difference is that fencing is different in the middle there where it's more

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important for it to be decorative, the rest of it more important for it to be protected, protective and it's

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screened by the landscaping that's going to be installed. And we've asked that this landscaping exhibit be a part

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of, as he referenced in his stipulation letter, if you recommend approval, we'll have to

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come in that plaintiff's permanent permitting time and show that that's what we're actually

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going to build.

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And so that's what he's asked for, that's a little bit different than what staff has recommended.

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The outdoor storage component, I mean if there's more questions and maybe many more details

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about what these guys think they may expect to see, to give any additional level of comfort

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about opening that up a little bit.

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but we're happy to speak to that more.

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I think that you've heard probably enough to hopefully agree

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that this is, you know, as an industrial area,

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I think the zoning district is appropriate

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allowing this type of, a little bit of a different use

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by having the storage area is appropriate

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and being on the corner where it is

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and know that there's an interest

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in having the appearance be what I think this shows

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with this extensive landscaping.

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So hopefully that covers those concerns.

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This is also one of the Scarvers points in agreement with that we also did an exhibit that looks a lot like this.

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This would be bricked and there would be water table here.

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And so that's something that they're in agreement with, which is different from what maybe the original rendering show did not obviously show the brick on that side.

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So, those are the consistencies and in some where things are a little bit different. The hours of operation, I guess, would be the only other where the stipulation letter for Mr. Huff is consistent with your noise ordinance. I know you've talked about that with them before that that's why the noise ordinance is there. And so that covers that he's just saying we're going to be consistent with that as opposed to the hours being a little bit tighter, which would be the 10-day that staff proposed.

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So, I think what we would recommend or ask that you recommend is that the approval will be subject to Mr.

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Huff's letter and the staff conditions where those differ the three or four things that we've talked about tonight are covered by Mr.

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Huff's letter that ties it back to our plan and the landscaping plan.

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And with that, if you have any questions for me or if there's anything else that you want to hear from the applicant,

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So this is your 10 minutes. You guys can use it. However it is that you choose if you want to bank a few minutes then it's totally up to you.

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Okay. I mean, is there anything you want to add for now? I'm happy

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to answer any questions about types of customers or tenants or users on the property or anything you may want to talk about.

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We

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can hold the rest of our time.

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Yeah, I was going to say this is an art time to ask you questions, not just yet.

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This is the ten minutes that you guys can exhaust stating your case essentially.

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So again, it's up to you.

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If you have probably a minute and a half left, if you want to, it's up to you.

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I'm Jack Cranford with strategic real estate partners.

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No, it's awesome.

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Yeah, there you go.

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Okay, great.

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Thank you for talking about that.

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Jack Cranford with strategic real estate partners, we are the applicant under S.T.V. Acquisitions, L.O.C.

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And I've covered most of everything that we'd like to go through here.

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But with the landscaping shown here, we're really trying to do our best.

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This is a button beyond what we've done on any other property to make this a good looking facility.

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We've added the brick ornamental fencing out front.

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Really trying to shield the yard as best we can.

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and we've built other buildings along White Road.

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I'm very familiar with the area and I think what we're proposing here would be one of the best looking properties in that area.

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So we're excited to work with you all and find a way to get this property developed.

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Thank you.

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How much?

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A minute 30.

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Oh, it's a minute 30, okay.

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I'm assuming you guys are done.

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I'm happy.

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Okay, I mean, you can't have a seat if you're done, it's up to you.

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Cool.

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Thank you.

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So with a minute and 30, was there anyone else that wanted to speak in support of this application?

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No? Go on once, go on twice, okay? We did have one person that wanted to speak in opposition.

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So I'll ask one more time, is there anyone else that wants to speak in opposition? We already have one person.

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Okay, so you can make your way to the podium.

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State your name and your district, I guess, in the city.

402
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My name is Steve Young, I'm with the Mableton Improvement Coalition District 4.

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We actually, I don't oppose the application per se, I do oppose some of the language in the application.

404
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And only because I oppose it, because I think it could hinder the development of this.

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I think the development is actually a very good project.

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It's very beautiful landscaping and everything.

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I think it's fine addition, especially when you do light industrial.

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It's very easy for it to be kind of run down looking, but

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I think this is a very good project.

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And the language I object to is the, what you have stipulations allowing the gravel parking for.

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That would normally be found.

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Excuse me, in heavy industrial, that should be a variance and not a stipulation.

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Stipulations, restrict behavior on a piece of property where the zoning would otherwise allow it.

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Variants does the opposite, it allows use of land that is not allowed in that particular zoning category.

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In this case, they are using the land in conformity to a heavy industrial, not a light industrial.

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That should be a variance and not a stipulation.

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And if you do not use the proper language, it could lead to problems down the road,

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if someone comes along and checks on legal grounds.

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So I would recommend that the Planning Commission adopt that language going forward on this.

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Otherwise, I do believe there would be some problems.

421
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Thank you very much.

422
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Thank you.

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And how much time do we have left?

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Eight minutes, 11 seconds.

425
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Eight minutes, okay.

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So I'll make one last plea.

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I know we don't like public speaking, but I'll ask again, with eight minutes left, was there anyone else here?

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They wanted to speak in opposition to this application,

429
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okay?

430
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I don't see anyone.

431
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So I guess we will forfeit the remaining time and then we will close the public public comment portion for this particular case.

432
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We will as a board, we will open it up for our own discussion.

433
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It's open.

434
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I have a question, again, about the times of operation.

435
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I'm kind of confused, staff said, one step, time.

436
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Chairman.

437
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Yes, sir.

438
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To close the public.

439
00:36:15,910 --> 00:36:16,430
Oh, sorry.

440
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Thousand apologies.

441
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I'll make a motion to close the public hearing portion for this case.

442
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My second.

443
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We'll have a second from Commissioner Valenzano.

444
00:36:26,230 --> 00:36:26,990
All in favor say aye.

445
00:36:27,330 --> 00:36:27,630
Aye.

446
00:36:27,970 --> 00:36:28,290
Any opposed?

447
00:36:28,490 --> 00:36:28,710
Say nay.

448
00:36:29,390 --> 00:36:30,330
No opposition.

449
00:36:30,330 --> 00:36:35,730
public hearing portion is closed. Is your question is it to the applicant or staff?

450
00:36:36,690 --> 00:36:39,390
Really both because I was confused about what they said.

451
00:36:39,610 --> 00:36:45,310
Okay, so let's start with staff and then and then we can get the applicant to clarify.

452
00:36:45,750 --> 00:36:47,130
But let's start with staff first.

453
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:55,220
The applicant presented hours of operation in their stipulation letter that's attached there.

454
00:36:55,520 --> 00:37:01,840
You see it on the agenda. Their stipulations are exactly what you have in the city of

455
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:10,100
noise ordinance. I believe it said nothing, no noise between 11 p.m. and 7 a.m. staff. When

456
00:37:10,100 --> 00:37:14,340
we looked over it, I had recalled that you had limited it a little bit further. And

457
00:37:14,340 --> 00:37:19,840
so staff's recommendation just limited that window, not by much, just maybe an hour on

458
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:25,620
each side. But you all had some other discussions limiting it further. So really what it is is

459
00:37:25,620 --> 00:37:29,680
what is the planning commission comfortable with? Do they want to just stick with the noise

460
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:34,040
ordinance or because of the adjacent residential property, do you want to restrict it further?

461
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:45,220
So what we talked about in the previous meeting, and this is in action in the meeting notes,

462
00:37:45,720 --> 00:37:55,770
the meeting minutes, excuse me, there was a proposal to revise, I guess at that point it was

463
00:37:55,770 --> 00:38:03,790
Number 13 to read, loading, unloading, and outdoor activities shall be limited to weekdays between 6 a.m. and 8 p.m.

464
00:38:04,410 --> 00:38:13,830
And on weekends 8 a.m. to 6 p.m. So that's the stipulation that was put forth in the what the July second meeting.

465
00:38:14,510 --> 00:38:24,850
Versus what the applicant is saying is in their stipulation letter is outdoor noise generating activities shall not occur

466
00:38:24,850 --> 00:38:31,450
between 10 p.m. and 8 a.m. so it's it's a slight variance of time. Just one correction if I may.

467
00:38:32,110 --> 00:38:36,570
This is a staff's recommendation there's with 7 p.m. to 7 a.m. I'm sorry I'm looking at my bed.

468
00:38:37,370 --> 00:38:46,870
So 11 p.m. to 7 a.m. so it's it's basically it's like a shift of an hour. So the idea was because

469
00:38:46,870 --> 00:38:56,550
there is a there's a our 20 our 20 home just I think I guess south and then

470
00:38:56,550 --> 00:39:01,210
there's a mobile home park there. The idea was to make sure that we're doing as

471
00:39:01,210 --> 00:39:04,990
a planning commission we're doing everything that we can to protect them from

472
00:39:04,990 --> 00:39:10,430
from a from a noise standpoint and that's where that stipulation or at least that

473
00:39:10,430 --> 00:39:11,530
recommendation came from.

474
00:39:16,980 --> 00:39:20,940
You can you can ask the applicant to step

475
00:39:20,940 --> 00:39:23,680
that for other representatives, either one?

476
00:39:27,110 --> 00:39:32,350
For us, if you take a day AM, we say we have a landscape

477
00:39:32,350 --> 00:39:35,990
contractor that uses this yard, and they're getting their

478
00:39:35,990 --> 00:39:39,150
cruise out, and you see the landscape are starting at 8 a.m.

479
00:39:39,170 --> 00:39:41,210
in the morning, and if they're trying to load their trucks up

480
00:39:41,210 --> 00:39:44,610
and get their equipment on the trucks, that'll harness losing

481
00:39:44,610 --> 00:39:44,990
that hour.

482
00:39:45,130 --> 00:39:49,010
So I think we're trying to work within the noise ordinance as it

483
00:39:49,010 --> 00:39:52,910
was put in place for that reason, and willing to adhere

484
00:39:52,910 --> 00:39:57,670
to that, but the 8 a.m. start would hurt us for our customers.

485
00:40:00,220 --> 00:40:04,520
And when you say customers, do you have in the building?

486
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:05,140
Set again.

487
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:06,380
Tenants in the building.

488
00:40:06,540 --> 00:40:06,720
Okay.

489
00:40:07,240 --> 00:40:14,320
Well, to that point or to that end, do you have certain customers already or tenets already

490
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:20,640
lined up that you're ready to lease the space to or do you not have that yet?

491
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:26,020
Because I understand to be, I understand you want to be prepared for that kind of situation.

492
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:34,040
And so I'm just asking, do you already have a tenant where they're saying, hey, this

493
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:38,040
is our type of business and so we need to be able to function within these types of hours?

494
00:40:38,500 --> 00:40:40,480
We do not have a specific tenant on it.

495
00:40:40,660 --> 00:40:46,760
We do have interest in the property, from groups that would be much favorable to have the

496
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:51,400
Norse Orman's hours not these proposed hours got you. Okay. Thank you.

497
00:40:56,060 --> 00:40:56,960
Go ahead.

498
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:02,680
Did you want to add something to the

499
00:41:03,460 --> 00:41:10,520
Step to the podium. Please add your point to the time. Yeah, please go to that answer. I was as I was listening to him

500
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:12,940
talking and thinking I hear

501
00:41:13,580 --> 00:41:17,380
that often and I think that morning time is pretty important for

502
00:41:17,940 --> 00:41:21,600
Most any contractor and a lot of businesses that would need to be working

503
00:41:22,220 --> 00:41:37,160
by 7, that's not that early, but I was thinking if there had to be a change that the evening hour is probably less important to any business there, maybe more important to a resident to have a quiet night than a lot of people are up by 7 a.m.

504
00:41:37,260 --> 00:41:47,580
So I was just, I don't know if that's a real legal point or just a suggestion that maybe there could be some some agreement on the night hour or not as important for the business than maybe the morning.

505
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:58,320
While you're up there and this may need the applicant as well, I noticed to other discrepancies

506
00:42:01,240 --> 00:42:07,680
that I wanted to get clarification on, the staff's recommendation is an 8-foot fence,

507
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:16,040
and that statement includes the outdoor storage area shall be enclosed by an 8-foot fence,

508
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:25,060
which I understand to be the entirety of it, and the stipulation letter we received from the applicant is a six-foot fence.

509
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:39,160
I'm more leaning toward the eight-foot fence in the chain link areas, but I was wondering if that would be prohibitive along the frontage.

510
00:42:39,780 --> 00:42:46,580
So if you could speak to where you would not like that 8-foot fence to be in place, I would appreciate it.

511
00:42:46,580 --> 00:42:47,180
Okay, understand.

512
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:48,780
Just about.

513
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:51,740
We're showing 8 on the plan now.

514
00:42:52,060 --> 00:42:59,240
Okay, so he's saying that the plan does show 8 feet as far as the vinyl chain link in the front.

515
00:43:00,100 --> 00:43:01,180
And 8 foot on the ornamental as well.

516
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:03,760
And 8 foot on the ornamental.

517
00:43:06,850 --> 00:43:09,210
Tina, can you pull the site plan out?

518
00:43:09,210 --> 00:43:14,350
So it would be agreeable to use eight foot fence and for the entirety of the enclosure.

519
00:43:14,430 --> 00:43:18,310
Yes, yes, I think the site plan is consistent with the staff condition.

520
00:43:18,550 --> 00:43:23,490
The other point, once again with the fence and I apologize, we discuss fence all night.

521
00:43:25,410 --> 00:43:34,670
The staff stipulation number 12 reads that the fence shall be located no closer than the front of the building along Riverside Parkway.

522
00:43:34,670 --> 00:43:47,270
I assume we would need to strike that, because obviously we're talking about the fence being on the outside of the parking lot to the road side of that parking area in front of the building.

523
00:43:47,510 --> 00:43:49,790
So Tina, if you have a comment, please go ahead.

524
00:43:50,810 --> 00:43:53,770
I do and it might be in a different stipulation.

525
00:43:54,130 --> 00:43:57,470
It says accept as needed for fencing the front parking lot.

526
00:43:58,070 --> 00:44:03,530
And so the idea there is that the fencing that's there for the storage would not be in front of the building.

527
00:44:03,530 --> 00:44:08,710
So, this fence here is for this front parking area.

528
00:44:09,290 --> 00:44:17,130
It's the storage fence that needed to stay back this way, which when I had identified

529
00:44:17,130 --> 00:44:21,890
the differences, it was mainly based on the email I received back from the attorney saying

530
00:44:21,890 --> 00:44:22,910
these are the differences.

531
00:44:23,790 --> 00:44:27,590
As you're going through there, there is another section and similar where I'm talking about

532
00:44:27,590 --> 00:44:32,830
the fence needs to be located back with the setback that the storage should not be in any

533
00:44:32,830 --> 00:44:39,310
setback area and those areas would be like right in here. That wasn't specifically called

534
00:44:39,310 --> 00:44:42,350
out as a difference but that is in staff's stipulation.

535
00:44:43,070 --> 00:44:49,270
So when they submitted for LDP you would make sure that those areas were properly described

536
00:44:49,270 --> 00:44:52,550
describe your accounted for per the stipulation you just mentioned.

537
00:44:53,290 --> 00:44:53,510
That's right.

538
00:44:58,930 --> 00:44:59,870
One final thing.

539
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:16,580
On the gates, there is stipulation 16 that there should be a minimum of 50 foot from the right of way. Is that going to work? I'm just curious looking at those plans. It doesn't seem like there's that much room, but I just wanted to make sure we're all in the agreement.

540
00:45:18,860 --> 00:45:23,440
We haven't shown it roughly 25 to 30 feet inside the right away.

541
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:27,060
The reason we wouldn't want to go to 50s because we've done that on other properties

542
00:45:27,060 --> 00:45:31,640
before, and it invites people like tractor trailers that want to pull over because they

543
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:35,240
need to get into the lot north of here or something like that to park and try to sit there overnight.

544
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:42,640
We talked about keeping the gates open during business hours and closed after business hours.

545
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:47,980
So I think the idea of pushing it back 50 feet was to keep from people having to queue out in the right away

546
00:45:47,980 --> 00:45:54,740
But I think with the stipulation of keeping the gates open your business hours that'll allow us to not have people queuing in the right away

547
00:45:54,740 --> 00:46:00,560
I guess by your comment. You're saying that if it was 50 foot back and closed at night

548
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:04,860
It might have might the opposite problem. It might invite the opposite. Yes. Okay. Thank you

549
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:11,300
Yes, and I think that goes along with the landscape buffer trying to push that in as well

550
00:46:14,700 --> 00:46:15,260
Okay,

551
00:46:17,720 --> 00:46:36,080
this question is to staff so we talked about and I think we talked about this at the at the work session and so that the red part the highlight of part in the front is a gate and that will be that is it

552
00:46:38,700 --> 00:46:39,980
That would be the only

553
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:43,860
Anodized portion. The rest of it would be chain link. Is that correct?

554
00:46:44,220 --> 00:46:49,400
That is that is the difference right now between the staff recommendation and the applicants recommendation.

555
00:46:49,980 --> 00:46:53,660
You you had record we had recommended between the two entries.

556
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:58,240
So from the one driveway to the next driveway would all be the decorative fence.

557
00:46:58,420 --> 00:47:01,940
And the applicants proposal is that it would just be in that red area.

558
00:47:01,940 --> 00:47:02,000
Yeah.

559
00:47:02,720 --> 00:47:07,840
So for visual purposes, can you, can you point scratches?

560
00:47:08,460 --> 00:47:14,140
Can you point to the, the two entry points that we were discussing?

561
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:15,020
Yeah, do you want me to?

562
00:47:19,140 --> 00:47:19,380
Okay.

563
00:47:19,900 --> 00:47:28,140
So our discussion was on Riverside, Bob White, that would be the energized fence, and then

564
00:47:28,140 --> 00:47:30,300
everything else would be chain link.

565
00:47:30,620 --> 00:47:31,060
That's correct.

566
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:31,660
Okay.

567
00:47:32,620 --> 00:47:38,480
And you got, as the applicant and representatives, you're opposed to that.

568
00:47:40,540 --> 00:47:45,200
Your proposal is to just have the Anodized Fates right there in that red section,

569
00:47:45,620 --> 00:47:49,380
and then everything else be Chainlink. Correct? Yes, so that's correct.

570
00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:53,880
So Chainlink starting here, the Anodized Fates here, where it's open,

571
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:58,620
and the better visual, all landscaping in here, and then back to Chainlink here,

572
00:47:58,620 --> 00:48:02,460
and back to that landscaping all the way up there.

573
00:48:02,660 --> 00:48:05,960
I mean, part of it's economical, part of it's practical

574
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:10,220
that you've got a chain link that's better security

575
00:48:10,220 --> 00:48:12,660
and doesn't need to be decorative and more expensive,

576
00:48:13,180 --> 00:48:15,200
because it's covered by all the landscaping.

577
00:48:15,700 --> 00:48:18,520
Here where it's more of a aesthetic feature

578
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:21,300
is more important than happy to do it there

579
00:48:21,820 --> 00:48:23,780
and then going back to the chain link there

580
00:48:23,780 --> 00:48:26,540
where it's again, you know, back to being screened.

581
00:48:26,540 --> 00:48:45,600
So that's the way we're envisioning and looking, you know, having the anti-dice fence be behind the landscape and where you're going to see it, you know, for this section, it seems like a bit more since just to have the bottom of Jane Link fence in there. It's not going to be visible like this section right here in the middle.

582
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:48,480
So that's the difference between the two.

583
00:48:49,100 --> 00:48:51,260
Okay, step to the mic.

584
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:54,840
As it compromises, we've added trees,

585
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:57,480
the length of playing calls for a tree every 20 feet,

586
00:48:57,640 --> 00:49:00,100
but we've got trees much tighter than that.

587
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:02,400
Okay, so you're saying you're,

588
00:49:02,500 --> 00:49:04,200
and I'm simply repeating it because,

589
00:49:04,420 --> 00:49:05,460
I don't know if it's being picked up,

590
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:08,900
you're saying they're compromised for you guys,

591
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:13,680
is as opposed to having trees planted every 20 feet,

592
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:17,860
you're packing it in a bit tighter, so I'm just making this up just for number

593
00:49:17,860 --> 00:49:23,660
sake as opposed to every 20 feet is every five feet, just whatever. Right, right,

594
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:28,700
as shown on the plan. Okay. To, I mean, not, we're doing a tree wall,

595
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:32,240
essentially in front of the fence, so you will not see the fence theoretically.

596
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:35,960
Okay. Is that you know, we could reduce the amount of trees, you know,

597
00:49:36,060 --> 00:49:40,040
water middle all the way down, riverside if that was desired. But the goal here was

598
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:44,300
to add the trees and try to screen the whole yard if that makes sense.

599
00:49:44,700 --> 00:49:44,880
Okay.

600
00:49:48,340 --> 00:49:54,020
So in terms of the entrance, is it fair to say the front of the building is the entrance

601
00:49:54,020 --> 00:49:57,840
and the side is the exit or you can go in and out either way?

602
00:49:58,720 --> 00:50:03,920
I mean, it would be two points of access to go in and out either way.

603
00:50:04,140 --> 00:50:04,360
Okay.

604
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:08,180
Yeah, I think you would focus here that most of your traffic going to the yard would come

605
00:50:08,180 --> 00:50:12,100
in this entrance and I think more of your office staff would be able to see this entrance

606
00:50:12,100 --> 00:50:12,500
It's just help.

607
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:13,700
Okay, but it makes sense.

608
00:50:14,060 --> 00:50:16,060
But a truck can come in there if they could fit.

609
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:17,160
That's correct, yes.

610
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:29,040
Now, I just, I wanted to start, I guess discussion,

611
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:30,680
if there isn't any other questions,

612
00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:33,820
I just want to make sure we're all on the same page

613
00:50:33,820 --> 00:50:37,260
of anything that needs to be edited or adjusted.

614
00:50:37,420 --> 00:50:40,980
Obviously, we've got a recommendation

615
00:50:42,900 --> 00:50:46,240
for leaving it as light industrial with the allowance

616
00:50:46,240 --> 00:50:47,140
for the gravel.

617
00:50:47,140 --> 00:50:50,160
I guess I would defer to our council there.

618
00:50:50,460 --> 00:50:52,280
He'd like to chime in on the conversation

619
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:54,060
about stipulation versus variance.

620
00:50:54,420 --> 00:50:56,940
Do you have anything to add to that point

621
00:50:56,940 --> 00:50:57,720
that was brought up?

622
00:51:02,850 --> 00:51:04,030
Can you speak into her mic, I guess?

623
00:51:06,380 --> 00:51:08,380
Generally, when you're talking about uses

624
00:51:08,380 --> 00:51:12,100
that aren't expressly permitted,

625
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:17,420
it's either going to be by a special land use permit

626
00:51:17,420 --> 00:51:19,920
or a cup, a conditional use permit,

627
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:21,360
to

628
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:39,540
make it iron clad a special land use permit or a conditional use permit is generally acceptable.

629
00:51:40,980 --> 00:51:52,100
For that, not to say that it can't be done with variance, but it potentially could be open to a legal challenge later.

630
00:51:52,100 --> 00:51:55,900
I can

631
00:51:59,740 --> 00:52:04,440
also add this applicant stipulation letter does call it a variance.

632
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:05,380
I don't know about that.

633
00:52:05,380 --> 00:52:08,060
Can you point to that one?

634
00:52:12,860 --> 00:52:14,980
I don't have it in the presentation.

635
00:52:15,260 --> 00:52:15,780
No, that's okay.

636
00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:18,120
I'm on it.

637
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:22,700
I'm just trying to, if you know which step number it is,

638
00:52:25,780 --> 00:52:26,960
maybe it doesn't.

639
00:52:31,060 --> 00:52:37,800
So it's included as in it's stipulation number one in the July 30th letter, which says

640
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:42,700
rezoning the property to the L.I. zoning district with a variance to allow gravel parking

641
00:52:42,700 --> 00:52:50,620
as depicted on the submitted site plan attached as exhibit A. I think that with the additional

642
00:52:50,620 --> 00:53:01,600
The use of parking on gravel or variance allows you or city councils body to have the

643
00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:06,660
legislative discretion to say we allow to vary from the light industrial ordinance to

644
00:53:06,660 --> 00:53:13,960
allow for it to have, allow for this used to have parking on gravel, I don't believe that

645
00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:20,240
it needs a conditional use permit or special use permit but I think the variance covers

646
00:53:20,240 --> 00:53:21,780
And it is included in our letter.

647
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:23,120
Thank you, I appreciate that.

648
00:53:25,990 --> 00:53:37,550
So without being said, if we went with the variance language that I guess we've agreed to, that is in the letter, stipulations letter, or agreeable, stipulations letter from the lawyer.

649
00:53:39,650 --> 00:53:49,790
My opinion on the timing, I agree with the applicant's comment that businesses that operate in this area, probably want to be up and

650
00:53:49,790 --> 00:53:55,730
running by 7 a.m. at the latest. I also fear that we'd be putting a restriction on this

651
00:53:55,730 --> 00:54:01,610
one little property that is in the sea of L.I. that we've seen on the current presentation.

652
00:54:02,010 --> 00:54:13,350
So I would agree to that morning time start. I would entertain, I guess, an earlier end time

653
00:54:13,350 --> 00:54:35,350
I'm of saying 9 or 10 p.m. just to give some peace and quiet to the residents as they mentioned and then it seems like the eight foot fence is agreeable all the way around with the anodized aluminum shown where they're wanting visibility to the front of the building and the chain link being behind landscaping on the rest of the perimeter so correct.

654
00:54:35,350 --> 00:54:50,050
I agree. Well, which I think is stipulation number five, certainly understand the need for businesses to be able to get up and running that Riverside Parkway corridor in that particular area.

655
00:54:50,050 --> 00:54:56,290
It is heavy with light industrial or let's just say commercial buildings.

656
00:54:57,270 --> 00:55:05,610
So it is consistent even though there is an R20 right next to it or to the south of it and then you have a mobile home park a little bit further south.

657
00:55:06,330 --> 00:55:10,030
So I am amenable to the 7 a.m. start time.

658
00:55:10,790 --> 00:55:24,820
I think in keeping with the previous conversations and just taking into account that you do have some residential properties very close by.

659
00:55:29,820 --> 00:55:34,820
Those, those homeowners, or the people that live there, they are not forgotten.

660
00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:41,940
I know it's kind of a weird rezoning and it's a pocket of art, you know, that one pocket for R20.

661
00:55:42,740 --> 00:55:50,060
So I'm kind of sensitive to the fact that someone can be loading, unloading trucks coming

662
00:55:50,060 --> 00:55:56,500
in at 11 p.m. If I lived there, I would pull my hair out if I had any, but so I would be

663
00:55:56,500 --> 00:56:02,160
more amenable to changing that stipulation to allow for the 7 a.m. start time but to

664
00:56:03,340 --> 00:56:05,760
end at like 9 p.m.

665
00:56:12,420 --> 00:56:15,740
Because I just, I think about if it was me, if I was trying to get some

666
00:56:15,740 --> 00:56:22,080
sleep or watch TV or read, I don't want to hear heavy equipment or whatever being moved

667
00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:28,380
around at 11 o'clock at night and you know I'm probably I'd be upset and I'll say it that way.

668
00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:38,620
And they've already mentioned that they are amenable to the to the water shelf which is great.

669
00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:45,460
I think that it adds to the for the streetscape. I think they've made some greater some great

670
00:56:45,460 --> 00:56:52,560
adjustments as far as landscaping is concerned. I can I totally I understand with anodized fence

671
00:56:52,560 --> 00:57:07,300
in keeping it to that particular part, especially if they're going to compensate with a lot of tree planting, which that should also add to the buffer for our 20 in the mobile home park, so I am, I am amenable to that.

672
00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:16,360
If I may, I think the only one item we have outstanding would be the storage outdoor storage.

673
00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:19,240
for the eight-foot fence or what part?

674
00:57:19,500 --> 00:57:21,560
What they're allowed to store on the gravel area.

675
00:57:24,380 --> 00:57:28,220
The staff recommendations shows heavy equipment,

676
00:57:29,220 --> 00:57:31,940
they're talking in terms of pipe and other materials

677
00:57:31,940 --> 00:57:34,820
that a company may need to take to a site or to store

678
00:57:34,820 --> 00:57:36,240
before they take them to a site.

679
00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:38,940
I'm just trying to think how we avoid,

680
00:57:38,980 --> 00:57:40,340
I know during our previous conversations,

681
00:57:40,340 --> 00:57:42,600
we were worried that it was gonna turn into a junk yard,

682
00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:43,140
so to speak.

683
00:57:43,140 --> 00:57:47,340
correct where there was going to be miscellaneous materials or rubbish or other

684
00:57:47,340 --> 00:57:53,340
things stored outside I'm just I would ask staff if they have any recommendation

685
00:57:53,340 --> 00:57:58,560
how we craft that language or how we allow you to craft that language between

686
00:57:58,560 --> 00:57:59,480
now and city council.

687
00:58:01,740 --> 00:58:04,840
So the restriction that's on there right now is based on

688
00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:12,220
what's allowed to be parked on in heavy industrial on gravel. There is the code

689
00:58:12,220 --> 00:58:16,240
does also talk about storage, which is different than gravel parking, so there is definitely

690
00:58:17,180 --> 00:58:20,800
opportunity staff will be open to changing it, but you're right to figure out where

691
00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:26,480
that balance is. You could prohibit certain uses like salvage yard, but that may not

692
00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:31,360
be allowed in LI anyway, but say it is, then that should be added to the list of prohibited

693
00:58:31,360 --> 00:58:38,360
uses. Sometimes with auto repairs, you can limit that if you have things on the property

694
00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:42,760
for repair. They have to, they can only be there for a certain amount of time. You know,

695
00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:47,980
you can't accumulate. Maybe that's the word. Accumulate of stores. I really don't know.

696
00:58:48,100 --> 00:58:53,500
That's why it was worded the way it was. Piping, contracting equipment. That could be added

697
00:58:53,500 --> 00:58:59,460
pretty easily. If there's something else you wouldn't want to see, the stipulation does

698
00:58:59,460 --> 00:59:07,660
say no hazardous materials, so that's covered. So you could just direct staff to look into

699
00:59:07,660 --> 00:59:10,100
that further to allow storage without the allowance

700
00:59:10,100 --> 00:59:11,680
of accumulation of junk.

701
00:59:12,780 --> 00:59:13,480
Maybe that is the word.

702
00:59:13,720 --> 00:59:14,800
No accumulation of junk.

703
00:59:15,040 --> 00:59:15,220
Junk?

704
00:59:16,740 --> 00:59:17,140
OK.

705
00:59:17,540 --> 00:59:19,320
That leaves it wide open for our fine books

706
00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:21,280
that code enforcement interpret.

707
00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:23,360
OK.

708
00:59:25,900 --> 00:59:28,720
Do we have any further discussion or

709
00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:33,240
any other questions

710
00:59:33,900 --> 00:59:37,000
of staff and or the applicant or their representatives?

711
00:59:40,510 --> 00:59:44,810
I remember I think the presentation early on.

712
00:59:44,810 --> 00:59:49,370
He said something about no vehicle would be there more than 24 hours.

713
00:59:49,630 --> 00:59:55,780
You remember saying that because of the things for repairs of vehicles.

714
00:59:56,660 --> 00:59:59,980
Because my concern was just like a junkyard, you leave me stuff.

715
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:09,660
If I did, if somebody can't pay you, you don't fix it. Now, sitting out there, what do you do? So that's why I was asking that. Yeah, yeah. Okay.

716
01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:32,380
Not entirely clear on what the question is, but if you're saying, well, I've made a statement that if you're repairing a vehicle or truck, right, right, right. It won't be that in more than 24 hours. I remember this statement. So again, my question is, I just going to tow it away. I mean,

717
01:00:32,380 --> 01:00:33,960
I mean, is this going to accumulate?

718
01:00:34,260 --> 01:00:36,500
You actually will stay until 24 hours,

719
01:00:36,700 --> 01:00:37,900
for the people to pay you?

720
01:00:38,920 --> 01:00:39,380
Yes.

721
01:00:39,600 --> 01:00:42,760
I mean, I think saying that we're limited to a vehicle

722
01:00:42,760 --> 01:00:45,900
only being parked in one spot for 24 hours would not work.

723
01:00:46,120 --> 01:00:48,480
I mean, think about a weekend where we've got

724
01:00:49,180 --> 01:00:51,480
employer company vehicles parked out back.

725
01:00:51,780 --> 01:00:53,300
I'll use the landscape example again.

726
01:00:53,400 --> 01:00:55,580
They've got 10 trucks they're gonna sit over the weekend

727
01:00:55,580 --> 01:00:58,300
or maybe only eight trucks go out on Monday morning

728
01:00:58,300 --> 01:00:59,480
because we don't need the other two.

729
01:01:00,280 --> 01:01:06,700
It's hard for us to agree that a vehicle would not be in one spot for more than 24 hours.

730
01:01:07,360 --> 01:01:13,400
I think this kind of goes back to what we just talked about and let me be in a junk yard and whatever language

731
01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:17,460
we want to propose that limits that, we're open to that.

732
01:01:17,800 --> 01:01:19,580
We don't want this to be a junk yard either.

733
01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:26,060
We wouldn't lease to a junk yard, so we'll do everything in our power to align with you all on that.

734
01:01:26,060 --> 01:01:32,440
and happy to work with you all in what language covers basis for both of us.

735
01:01:39,030 --> 01:01:39,690
Thank you.

736
01:01:43,100 --> 01:01:44,080
Are we ready for a motion?

737
01:01:44,580 --> 01:01:44,740
Yes.

738
01:01:45,860 --> 01:01:47,160
Ready to entertain a motion?

739
01:01:49,490 --> 01:01:53,490
I may need some help on this one since we're leaving it as is.

740
01:01:53,930 --> 01:01:56,110
I don't know if that's ever happened before.

741
01:01:56,110 --> 01:02:07,650
So I'll make a motion to, I guess, we'll say recommend approval of the light industrial zoning,

742
01:02:07,930 --> 01:02:25,950
maintaining the light industrial zoning with a variance to allow the gravel parking as mentioned in staff recommendation number four with the request that staff work with the applicant to include language avoiding outdoor storage of materials that becomes

743
01:02:25,950 --> 01:02:29,330
problems problematic prior to going before City Council.

744
01:02:30,990 --> 01:02:39,610
Also amending or editing staff recommendations unit number two to read from 9pm to 7am

745
01:02:40,130 --> 01:02:42,430
for outdoor noise generating activities.

746
01:02:43,270 --> 01:02:55,070
And then finally to staff recommendation number 16 to eliminate the minimum 50 foot from the

747
01:02:55,070 --> 01:02:59,070
right away and make it read instead as shown on the plans,

748
01:03:00,050 --> 01:03:02,870
unless otherwise approved by Cobb County DOT,

749
01:03:05,190 --> 01:03:16,270
and make sure we include the agreeable stipulations letter received by staff on.

750
01:03:16,750 --> 01:03:23,310
Please correct me on this date July 30th, 2026.

751
01:03:23,950 --> 01:03:25,610
That's my motion for the moment.

752
01:03:26,730 --> 01:03:30,230
All right, so we have a motion from Commissioner Valenzano

753
01:03:31,070 --> 01:03:33,090
with the notice stipulations.

754
01:03:35,110 --> 01:03:36,430
Do we have a second?

755
01:03:40,020 --> 01:03:44,600
Okay, you can still make a second and they will open it for discussion before we do anything else.

756
01:03:45,380 --> 01:03:46,360
Okay, second.

757
01:03:46,680 --> 01:03:49,380
Okay, we do have a second from Commissioner Jeter.

758
01:03:50,240 --> 01:03:52,140
We will open it up for discussion.

759
01:03:52,140 --> 01:03:56,500
I know Tina, you had a question or a comment, so we'll start with you.

760
01:03:56,780 --> 01:03:56,940
Okay.

761
01:03:57,300 --> 01:03:58,040
I'm two comments.

762
01:03:58,760 --> 01:04:04,520
The first one is the gate requirement did come directly from Cobb DOT, per their standard.

763
01:04:04,740 --> 01:04:05,760
Which one?

764
01:04:05,920 --> 01:04:08,220
Number 16, the 50 foot from the right of way.

765
01:04:08,580 --> 01:04:11,980
But we did add unless otherwise approved by Cobb DOT.

766
01:04:12,440 --> 01:04:17,140
So that would give Cobb DOT the ability to change that 50 foot requirement.

767
01:04:17,400 --> 01:04:19,800
But I did want to make it clear that that wasn't a staff recommendation.

768
01:04:19,800 --> 01:04:21,820
that was a Cobb DOT guideline.

769
01:04:22,280 --> 01:04:22,360
Okay.

770
01:04:22,860 --> 01:04:25,220
And then the second, just for a point of clarification,

771
01:04:25,620 --> 01:04:29,380
I don't think you discussed the location of the fence,

772
01:04:29,980 --> 01:04:31,020
the decorative fence,

773
01:04:32,020 --> 01:04:33,640
because one of staff stipulations

774
01:04:34,420 --> 01:04:36,560
said that it had to go from entrance to entrance,

775
01:04:37,380 --> 01:04:39,460
where the staff, the applicant,

776
01:04:39,760 --> 01:04:41,540
was limiting it to this red rectangle.

777
01:04:44,840 --> 01:04:47,300
Number three, staff recommendation number three.

778
01:04:47,440 --> 01:04:47,640
Gotcha.

779
01:04:48,940 --> 01:04:51,680
Permission to amend my motion?

780
01:04:51,680 --> 01:04:52,260
Absolutely.

781
01:04:53,020 --> 01:04:59,640
To include revising staff recommendation number three to read that the

782
01:05:00,460 --> 01:05:06,600
Alumni's Illuminum event shall be installed in front of the building as shown on the

783
01:05:06,600 --> 01:05:08,220
plan submitted by the applicant.

784
01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:10,640
Okay.

785
01:05:11,180 --> 01:05:11,780
That's your question.

786
01:05:12,140 --> 01:05:12,320
Okay.

787
01:05:12,680 --> 01:05:14,980
Again, I think on the drawings, I have six feet.

788
01:05:15,560 --> 01:05:16,940
So we go from six to eight.

789
01:05:17,360 --> 01:05:17,620
They're correct.

790
01:05:17,620 --> 01:05:20,500
but they confirmed the drawing showed 80 feet.

791
01:05:20,720 --> 01:05:21,880
The drawing didn't show 80 feet.

792
01:05:22,760 --> 01:05:25,140
Any other discussion?

793
01:05:26,480 --> 01:05:27,060
No discussion?

794
01:05:27,520 --> 01:05:27,640
Okay.

795
01:05:31,380 --> 01:05:35,600
So staff, so we do have the amended recommendation.

796
01:05:35,880 --> 01:05:36,660
Excuse me.

797
01:05:36,980 --> 01:05:39,400
We have the amended recommendation with RSA.

798
01:05:39,480 --> 01:05:42,900
We have the recommendation with the amended stipulations as noted.

799
01:05:43,620 --> 01:05:45,660
That came from Commissioner Valenzano.

800
01:05:45,660 --> 01:05:53,160
Now, we will, I'll do we have a second on the recommendation with the amended stipulations.

801
01:05:54,560 --> 01:06:00,540
We have a second from Commissioner Nakui, any further discussion?

802
01:06:02,580 --> 01:06:03,460
No further discussion?

803
01:06:03,720 --> 01:06:03,840
Okay.

804
01:06:04,200 --> 01:06:04,700
All in favor?

805
01:06:04,920 --> 01:06:05,220
Say aye.

806
01:06:05,920 --> 01:06:06,200
Aye.

807
01:06:06,680 --> 01:06:06,940
Any opposed?

808
01:06:07,120 --> 01:06:07,340
Say nay.

809
01:06:07,880 --> 01:06:09,000
The ayes have it.

810
01:06:09,280 --> 01:06:11,800
Let the record reflect unanimous for zero.

811
01:06:11,800 --> 01:06:16,440
So thank you guys, again, thank you to the applicant and the representatives.

812
01:06:17,780 --> 01:06:20,320
Again, we're simply making a recommendation.

813
01:06:20,860 --> 01:06:22,100
We are not the final arbiters.

814
01:06:22,440 --> 01:06:24,020
This will go before City Council.

815
01:06:24,260 --> 01:06:26,800
I think the date will be August 26th.

816
01:06:27,340 --> 01:06:27,480
Yes.

817
01:06:27,640 --> 01:06:28,540
August 26th.

818
01:06:28,540 --> 01:06:31,120
So you will have the opportunity to stand before City Council.

819
01:06:31,360 --> 01:06:31,820
Please your case.

820
01:06:32,740 --> 01:06:33,360
Excuse me.

821
01:06:33,580 --> 01:06:36,620
And they could, again, they could say yay.

822
01:06:37,240 --> 01:06:41,580
They could go, they could follow the recommendation that staff and planning commission has put forward.

823
01:06:41,580 --> 01:06:43,600
or they can go the total opposite direction,

824
01:06:43,700 --> 01:06:45,560
but you will have the opportunity to stand before them.

825
01:06:45,720 --> 01:06:47,800
So we appreciate your time, we appreciate you

826
01:06:48,300 --> 01:06:51,020
being so amenable in making all of the adjustments

827
01:06:51,020 --> 01:06:52,680
and edits and we appreciate you doing that.

828
01:06:53,460 --> 01:06:55,720
So you are free to leave or you can stay

829
01:06:55,720 --> 01:06:57,360
for the rest of the hearing.

830
01:06:58,040 --> 01:07:02,060
So with that, we will move to item 6A on the agenda,

831
01:07:02,240 --> 01:07:05,640
which is R-E-Z2026-007.

832
01:07:06,040 --> 01:07:06,300
All

833
01:07:23,670 --> 01:07:25,230
right, good evening commissioners,

834
01:07:25,230 --> 01:07:30,830
planning commissioners and residents of the, that are here in attendance and unfortunately.

835
01:07:31,450 --> 01:07:35,650
My name is Latina Richards, I am the city planner for the city of Maipleton and I will

836
01:07:35,650 --> 01:07:39,430
be representing REZ 2026, that's 007.

837
01:07:39,970 --> 01:07:43,690
So the subject property address is 5520 Glor Road.

838
01:07:44,110 --> 01:07:51,930
The applicant is requesting 1.6 Glor Drive, sorry, thank you, sorry, thank you, thank you

839
01:07:51,930 --> 01:07:56,830
So, 55-20 road, sorry, drive, sorry.

840
01:07:57,090 --> 01:07:58,010
I'm getting so confused.

841
01:07:58,690 --> 01:08:02,370
We're drive, and the acreage is 1.6 acres.

842
01:08:02,910 --> 01:08:07,130
This is within District 4, so it's with Councilwoman Brown.

843
01:08:08,090 --> 01:08:11,050
And I stated the applicant is rezoning the property

844
01:08:11,050 --> 01:08:13,870
from General Commercial to Residential Single Family,

845
01:08:14,410 --> 01:08:16,610
R-20's residential single family.

846
01:08:16,990 --> 01:08:19,010
The applicant is J-Star LLC,

847
01:08:19,010 --> 01:08:23,370
and the future line use designation is medium density residential.

848
01:08:26,600 --> 01:08:27,120
So here we

849
01:08:27,120 --> 01:08:32,360
have the zoning map that as I stated shows the subject property as general

850
01:08:32,360 --> 01:08:36,720
commercial and and the future line use designation as medium density

851
01:08:36,720 --> 01:08:37,300
residential.

852
01:08:40,670 --> 01:08:42,450
Yeah. This is the old one.

853
01:08:45,700 --> 01:08:46,580
This is the

854
01:08:46,580 --> 01:08:54,680
revised one. Yeah. You want to switch computers? Yeah. Alright hold. Sorry one moment.

855
01:08:54,680 --> 01:08:56,800
Okay, we'll take a brief pause.

856
01:10:39,870 --> 01:10:40,690
Do the slideshow.

857
01:10:53,030 --> 01:10:58,860
All right, so sorry about that.

858
01:10:59,200 --> 01:11:01,720
The applicant did send a revised site plan.

859
01:11:02,000 --> 01:11:08,200
So what we were seeing on the previous aerial and site plan was the original.

860
01:11:08,740 --> 01:11:11,380
So this is the revised that the applicant sent earlier today.

861
01:11:12,620 --> 01:11:17,940
So as you can see, this is as I stated, the revised site plan where the applicant is proposing

862
01:11:17,940 --> 01:11:25,720
the main floor to be 3,800 square feet, the second floor to be 1,700 square feet, and

863
01:11:25,720 --> 01:11:28,840
the basement floor to be 1,400 square feet.

864
01:11:29,360 --> 01:11:33,180
The applicant has stated that, because I know the planning commissioners during your

865
01:11:33,180 --> 01:11:38,080
work session, you have inquired about whether it is a three-story or a two-story home.

866
01:11:38,660 --> 01:11:42,260
The applicant has stated that it is a two-story home with a basement.

867
01:11:47,010 --> 01:11:52,750
These are the conceptual elevations, again, that the applicant has provided for the home

868
01:11:52,750 --> 01:11:53,630
and the subject property.

869
01:11:54,550 --> 01:11:59,470
So here we have the front facing view, and here we have the end on the left, and here

870
01:11:59,470 --> 01:12:04,170
on the right we also see the first, first, second, four elevations as far as where the,

871
01:12:05,210 --> 01:12:08,790
sorry, not the elevations, but where the location of each four would be.

872
01:12:12,660 --> 01:12:19,160
And then here is the foreground that the applicant has provided as far as the left, the

873
01:12:19,160 --> 01:12:21,220
the rear and the right side in the front.

874
01:12:27,670 --> 01:12:30,550
And here is where the proposed floor plan is.

875
01:12:30,770 --> 01:12:33,190
So what you're seeing right now is the first floor.

876
01:12:34,230 --> 01:12:38,690
And on the next page, the first floor, aka the main floor.

877
01:12:40,510 --> 01:12:42,510
And so probably just about that.

878
01:12:42,770 --> 01:12:44,290
They did show each floor.

879
01:12:44,550 --> 01:12:47,170
It was as I included in the presentation.

880
01:12:48,550 --> 01:12:52,410
But this is where we look at the rezoning criteria

881
01:12:52,410 --> 01:12:57,390
with the future land use designation as far as whether the property is in conformity

882
01:12:57,390 --> 01:13:03,550
with the residential area and what requirements are also needed to be rezoned

883
01:13:03,550 --> 01:13:08,130
to the category that they're looking to, which again is the R20 single-family residential.

884
01:13:10,880 --> 01:13:16,960
So here, this is one of staff states that they approve the application with stipulations.

885
01:13:17,920 --> 01:13:25,740
We did indicate that the use should just only be for residential uses only and not commercial.

886
01:13:26,280 --> 01:13:33,060
So if the applicant wants to convert it to, let's say, an office space just as a primary use,

887
01:13:33,360 --> 01:13:39,020
we are asking that the applicant do not typically do that for this residential space,

888
01:13:39,020 --> 01:13:44,000
but they are allowed in our code to be able to do a home office if they would like.

889
01:13:45,520 --> 01:13:51,220
So again, this is our stipulations as far as what we asked of the applicant

890
01:13:57,010 --> 01:13:59,830
and this is the last plan.

891
01:14:00,430 --> 01:14:08,150
I know during our work session, the Planning Commission also asked if the landscape plan was provided with the application.

892
01:14:08,990 --> 01:14:16,850
Unfortunately, when the applicant set the revised concept drawings, they did not provide a landscape plan.

893
01:14:16,850 --> 01:14:22,470
So, planning staff has put in a stipulation that they provide a plan, an escape plan

894
01:14:22,470 --> 01:14:24,490
before the issuance of their land is service permit.

895
01:14:25,870 --> 01:14:27,810
And that concludes my presentation.

896
01:14:28,130 --> 01:14:29,290
I am here if you have any questions.

897
01:14:30,050 --> 01:14:30,450
Thank you.

898
01:14:32,130 --> 01:14:36,610
Do we have the applicant and or the applicant's representative here this evening?

899
01:14:37,190 --> 01:14:37,410
Okay.

900
01:14:37,690 --> 01:14:38,050
Thank you.

901
01:14:39,210 --> 01:14:41,730
Let the record reflect the applicant is here.

902
01:14:42,850 --> 01:14:48,090
Do we have anyone here that wants to speak in support of this application?

903
01:14:49,050 --> 01:14:50,370
In support of?

904
01:14:53,420 --> 01:14:57,660
We're just looking for anyone that wants to speak in support of this application.

905
01:15:00,930 --> 01:15:13,530
We don't have any, well, one, okay, I missed that. Sorry. And do we have anyone that wants to speak in opposition to this application? Okay. We'll have the record reflected. There is one.

906
01:15:18,810 --> 01:15:27,590
Got it. Okay. So we'll need a time keeper. And you are, you can step to the front. You'll have 10 minutes.

907
01:15:30,110 --> 01:15:33,690
You can share it how you like, but have at it.

908
01:15:56,030 --> 01:16:02,670
Good evening, everybody. Members of the City Council, Distinguished Planning Commissioners,

909
01:16:02,790 --> 01:16:04,370
Planning staff and fellow residents.

910
01:16:07,360 --> 01:16:09,540
Thank you for the opportunity to stand before

911
01:16:09,540 --> 01:16:15,400
you today. My name is Dr. Portia Siwawa. I'm standing in place of my husband on our

912
01:16:15,400 --> 01:16:22,800
marisho today. I am not the best at public speaking, but I will do my best. So, I appear before

913
01:16:22,800 --> 01:16:27,720
for you, not merely as an applicant seeking a rezoning approval, but as someone who truly

914
01:16:27,720 --> 01:16:31,800
believes in the future of Mabelton and hopes to become a permanent part of this wonderful

915
01:16:31,800 --> 01:16:38,160
community. My husband and I have spent considerable time getting to know this area, and we have

916
01:16:38,160 --> 01:16:43,920
fallen in love with what makes Mabelton special. We admire its character, its natural beauty,

917
01:16:43,920 --> 01:16:49,720
and its sense of community, and the pride that the residents have in their neighborhoods.

918
01:16:49,720 --> 01:17:00,120
We see a city with tremendous promise a place where families can grow where neighbors know one another and where investments are made with the future in mind.

919
01:17:00,900 --> 01:17:02,660
That is why we're here.

920
01:17:03,320 --> 01:17:13,680
We're seeking your support to rezone this property to allow us to build what we envision as our future home a beautifully beautifully designed approximately 4200 square feet.

921
01:17:13,680 --> 01:17:19,620
Luxury home residents that reflects the quality, character, and standards worthy of the City of Mableton.

922
01:17:20,300 --> 01:17:23,260
This project is not speculative, it's personal.

923
01:17:24,300 --> 01:17:25,840
This is not simply another house.

924
01:17:26,360 --> 01:17:30,440
It is where we hope to raise our family, create memories, host loved ones,

925
01:17:30,860 --> 01:17:35,920
and establish roots in a community that we deeply admire and wish to call home for many years to come.

926
01:17:36,720 --> 01:17:41,020
We believe this proposal represents the highest and best use of this property

927
01:17:41,020 --> 01:17:50,300
Rather than introducing commercial activity, additional traffic, noise, parking lots, and incompatible uses into an established residential setting,

928
01:17:50,780 --> 01:17:55,020
our vision seeks to preserve and enhance the quiet character and beauty of GlowDrive.

929
01:17:55,580 --> 01:18:05,300
We intend to transform this parcel into something that complements the surrounding neighborhood and becomes a source of pride for both nearby residents and the city as a whole.

930
01:18:05,300 --> 01:18:09,500
But most importantly, I want to emphasize our commitment to partnership.

931
01:18:10,580 --> 01:18:13,880
We come before you with humility and respect for your process.

932
01:18:14,260 --> 01:18:25,640
We recognize the tremendous responsibility and trusted to the planning staff, planning commission, and the city council to safeguard the quality and integrity of Mabelton's neighborhoods.

933
01:18:27,480 --> 01:18:32,820
I want to state unequivocally that we are fully prepared, willing and eager to comply

934
01:18:32,820 --> 01:18:38,740
with all applicable ordinances, technical requirements, setbacks, buffers and development standards.

935
01:18:39,680 --> 01:18:45,200
Furthermore, we are willing to adopt any reasonable and realistic conditions that plan staff,

936
01:18:45,500 --> 01:18:50,860
the commission or the city council deemed necessary to ensure that this development becomes

937
01:18:50,860 --> 01:18:56,920
It becomes a truly befitting and treasured addition to Mabelton.

938
01:18:57,540 --> 01:18:59,960
If additional landscaping is required, we welcome it.

939
01:19:00,280 --> 01:19:03,120
If enhanced buffering is recommended, we embrace it.

940
01:19:03,520 --> 01:19:08,540
If architectural conditions or design standards are necessary to ensure compatibility in the

941
01:19:08,540 --> 01:19:13,960
surrounding area, we're happy to work collaboratively with staff in the city to achieve those goals.

942
01:19:14,900 --> 01:19:16,840
We do not view conditions as obstacles.

943
01:19:16,840 --> 01:19:22,540
We view them as opportunities to demonstrate our commitment to excellence in our respect for this community.

944
01:19:23,240 --> 01:19:29,680
Our desire is simple, to build a home of exceptional quality, to preserve the natural beauty of the site,

945
01:19:30,280 --> 01:19:34,640
to contribute positively to surrounding property values and to become good neighbors,

946
01:19:35,600 --> 01:19:41,200
and to invest our hearts, resources, and future right here, and our future right here in Mabelton.

947
01:19:41,920 --> 01:19:45,240
As many of you know, homes are more than the bricks and mortar.

948
01:19:45,480 --> 01:19:46,520
Are more than bricks and mortar.

949
01:19:47,420 --> 01:19:50,280
They are where children grow up, where friendships are made,

950
01:19:50,720 --> 01:19:53,500
where traditions begin, and where communities become stronger.

951
01:19:54,400 --> 01:19:57,040
My husband and I are excited about the possibility of making

952
01:19:57,040 --> 01:20:01,460
Mabel to know home and becoming active participants in the city's bright future.

953
01:20:02,680 --> 01:20:06,680
Tonight, I respectfully ask for your favorable consideration and support.

954
01:20:07,320 --> 01:20:09,820
Help us transform this property into something beautiful.

955
01:20:09,820 --> 01:20:14,380
help us create something lasting and help us become proud residents of the

956
01:20:14,380 --> 01:20:18,760
remarkable city. Thank you for your service to the people of Mabelton for

957
01:20:18,760 --> 01:20:22,440
your thoughtful consideration and for your dedication to preserving and

958
01:20:22,440 --> 01:20:27,100
advancing this great community. We sincerely hope to earn your trust and your

959
01:20:27,100 --> 01:20:32,100
support and we look forward to calling Mabelton our home. Thank you.

960
01:20:34,470 --> 01:20:36,770
Thank you. How

961
01:20:39,010 --> 01:20:39,130
much

962
01:20:39,130 --> 01:20:45,970
have a lift? Five minutes, 20 seconds. Okay. You can set forth, please.

963
01:20:51,780 --> 01:20:52,560
Yes, my name is Steve

964
01:20:52,560 --> 01:20:57,180
Young. I'm with Mableton Improvement Coalition. I live in District 4. In fact, I've really

965
01:20:57,180 --> 01:21:04,040
lived maybe about a half mile from this piece property. So I'm familiar with the area. And

966
01:21:04,040 --> 01:21:09,120
I think I've spoken a number of times not only front of the city, Mableton, but before

967
01:21:09,120 --> 01:21:16,880
the city was incorporated. I spoke in front of the county, number of developments along lines

968
01:21:16,880 --> 01:21:24,180
called Drive, Glow Drive here. That's this area. Area I have stated is in desperate

969
01:21:24,180 --> 01:21:30,760
need of some TLC and I believe this piece of this development here is an exemplary example

970
01:21:31,720 --> 01:21:37,500
an example of that tender loving care that this area needs and

971
01:21:37,500 --> 01:21:42,820
urge the council to the planning commission to approve this

972
01:21:42,820 --> 01:21:49,700
development. It is would be a fine addition to an area that needs some redevelopment.

973
01:21:49,820 --> 01:21:58,020
And I believe it would spur other development in the area compatible with this kind of living.

974
01:21:58,020 --> 01:22:07,080
So, I appreciate the applicants' interest in this area and hope to see this come to fruition.

975
01:22:07,460 --> 01:22:07,760
Thank you.

976
01:22:08,940 --> 01:22:09,680
Thank you.

977
01:22:10,160 --> 01:22:10,400
How

978
01:22:14,500 --> 01:22:14,820
much time?

979
01:22:15,440 --> 01:22:16,300
Four minutes.

980
01:22:16,740 --> 01:22:17,600
One second.

981
01:22:18,000 --> 01:22:18,980
Four minutes, one second.

982
01:22:19,220 --> 01:22:19,360
Okay.

983
01:22:21,240 --> 01:22:24,780
I know we asked before, but I asked one more time.

984
01:22:25,100 --> 01:22:29,900
Do we have anyone else here that wanted to speak in support of this application?

985
01:22:29,900 --> 01:22:30,920
Looks

986
01:22:35,270 --> 01:22:44,110
like there's no one else, so we will cut the time there for those in support of this application.

987
01:22:44,790 --> 01:22:55,050
I think we had one person that was in opposition to the application or bare minimum halfway, which will take it as fine.

988
01:22:56,210 --> 01:23:00,490
So with that, you please step to the podium, say, your name, your district.

989
01:23:00,490 --> 01:23:01,470
Yes,

990
01:23:05,110 --> 01:23:11,390
it's on. My name is Dale Evans. I lived directly across to street from this property.

991
01:23:12,290 --> 01:23:18,410
And I don't necessarily oppose it. I just had questions or concerns, I guess,

992
01:23:18,690 --> 01:23:24,690
because I've been in my house for 41 years. The neighborhoods and older neighborhood.

993
01:23:25,910 --> 01:23:31,230
And first of all, I don't know why they have to have it changed from commercial to residential

994
01:23:31,230 --> 01:23:36,310
a home was on that property for 60 years. It's just torn down when they started to build.

995
01:23:37,410 --> 01:23:44,850
So I don't know why it's commercial. And some of my concerns are because most of the houses

996
01:23:44,850 --> 01:23:54,570
on the street are 1300 square feet. And then this, I just look at it as I mentioned, composed of my house,

997
01:23:54,810 --> 01:23:59,030
is going to be right across the street for me, which I don't have no objections to that. I get along

998
01:23:59,030 --> 01:24:09,990
with my neighbors. We're a friendly neighborhood and we get out and talk to each other. We keep our yards done, you know, but it's just my concern because of the property taxes.

999
01:24:10,990 --> 01:24:28,190
Is that going to make my property go up when my little house is 1200 square feet and I don't mean that's my concerns. I'm just concerned. I mean, I thought the man that was saying he was going to be living there.

1000
01:24:28,190 --> 01:24:34,410
come over and introduced his staff to me. We had a good conversation and then I guess he found out

1001
01:24:34,410 --> 01:24:39,030
later it's commercial and it's been delayed because house has been torn down for like three

1002
01:24:39,030 --> 01:24:44,470
months now. That was on the property and the house that was on the property was about a 900 square

1003
01:24:44,470 --> 01:24:51,070
foot home that had been there for 60 something years at least. Like I said, I've been there for 41

1004
01:24:51,070 --> 01:24:57,290
years and I knew the people that live there and they've been there for years before they had

1005
01:24:57,290 --> 01:25:03,050
to get rid of the house. And it is, like he said, our low areas rundown,

1006
01:25:03,290 --> 01:25:09,230
mines flood drive is terrible. The house that's right next to that house has been

1007
01:25:09,230 --> 01:25:13,910
condemned in the past. There's homeless people living in it. I mean, it's terrible.

1008
01:25:14,310 --> 01:25:18,550
And I would like to see the neighborhood come back up. I know we're having the

1009
01:25:18,550 --> 01:25:23,110
bus bar and at the end of our street. And so that's just my concerns.

1010
01:25:23,110 --> 01:25:23,710
That's it.

1011
01:25:25,510 --> 01:25:26,110
Thank you.

1012
01:25:26,910 --> 01:25:27,350
Anyone

1013
01:25:29,980 --> 01:25:30,320
else?

1014
01:25:33,970 --> 01:25:35,730
Seven minutes, 42 seconds left.

1015
01:25:35,790 --> 01:25:36,490
Seven minutes, okay.

1016
01:25:37,230 --> 01:25:39,470
So again, seven minutes, 42 seconds left.

1017
01:25:39,610 --> 01:25:44,350
Anyone that would like to speak in opposition to this application,

1018
01:25:46,070 --> 01:25:48,430
you have the opportunity to do so now.

1019
01:25:49,830 --> 01:25:53,090
And I'll leave it there for a few seconds for you to must up your courage.

1020
01:25:57,560 --> 01:25:58,620
We don't have anyone.

1021
01:25:58,620 --> 01:26:09,380
All right, so I guess we will forego the rest of the time and we can entertain a motion to close the public hearing portion for this application.

1022
01:26:10,460 --> 01:26:11,300
So moved.

1023
01:26:11,700 --> 01:26:14,640
Motion by Commissioner Valenzano, do we have a second?

1024
01:26:16,530 --> 01:26:17,090
Second.

1025
01:26:17,230 --> 01:26:18,790
Second by Commissioner Geter.

1026
01:26:19,410 --> 01:26:20,190
Any discussion?

1027
01:26:20,990 --> 01:26:22,430
I don't think so. All in favor say aye.

1028
01:26:22,790 --> 01:26:23,010
Aye.

1029
01:26:23,010 --> 01:26:32,230
I mean, opposed a name, guys have it, public comment portion is closed, we can, we'll now

1030
01:26:32,230 --> 01:26:33,410
have our discussion.

1031
01:26:36,410 --> 01:26:43,750
So this question is for staff. I know that there was a, I'm still

1032
01:26:43,750 --> 01:26:50,610
a little confused about whether this is two or three story. Well, I mean, to me, the basement,

1033
01:26:50,610 --> 01:26:57,370
The basement would make it three story, but I mean, I'm just trying to make sure that I understand and it is there anything

1034
01:26:58,190 --> 01:27:05,750
With the square footage or the finished basement that would that would cause any issues with the with the zoning category because the future land uses

1035
01:27:05,750 --> 01:27:09,450
MDR is that correct? Yes, okay, and the square so is there any

1036
01:27:10,870 --> 01:27:15,630
I guess one clarification is it two or three story and then two is it

1037
01:27:16,610 --> 01:27:23,970
with a finished basement, I guess you can call it living space with that cause any issue from the square footage standpoint with regards to the zoning category.

1038
01:27:24,630 --> 01:27:29,310
So we do not have a as far as the square footage.

1039
01:27:29,810 --> 01:27:38,930
We are when we're looking at the law area for the property, they just need to have a minimum of 20, 20,000 square feet if they're trying to reason to our 20.

1040
01:27:38,930 --> 01:27:52,490
So with the as I stated the applicant has a today is a two story home with a basement. So the applicant for our 20 has to adhere to at least 35 feet in height.

1041
01:27:53,630 --> 01:28:01,710
That's that's the maximum height that they can be. So if they're under the 35 feet, then the with the basement is not an issue.

1042
01:28:03,870 --> 01:28:11,170
If I may apologize for totally interrupting you, can you clarify 35 feet to the ridge because

1043
01:28:11,990 --> 01:28:14,650
I'm trying to make sure we're seeing what we're showing.

1044
01:28:14,790 --> 01:28:19,310
They're showing 33 feet 11 and 21, 30 seconds.

1045
01:28:19,670 --> 01:28:24,450
Call it 34 feet for our purposes to the what looks like the eve.

1046
01:28:25,490 --> 01:28:28,810
So can you clarify whether that would meet the requirement?

1047
01:28:29,570 --> 01:28:33,870
So we're talking about 35 feet including the roofing so they would be to the

1048
01:28:33,870 --> 01:28:37,550
ridge so they would need to make sure that ridge line was below 35 feet on the front

1049
01:28:37,550 --> 01:28:39,550
beside. Correct. Okay thank you. Okay.

1050
01:28:42,380 --> 01:28:45,620
It's also counting the basements so the

1051
01:28:45,620 --> 01:28:48,940
measurement they were seeing is also counting the basements from so essentially

1052
01:28:48,940 --> 01:28:53,180
from the floor of the basement to so the measurement that the applicant has

1053
01:28:53,180 --> 01:28:57,820
included was from the floor from the floor of the basement to the ridge of the

1054
01:28:57,820 --> 01:29:01,300
or the high of the of the of the of the roofing.

1055
01:29:01,300 --> 01:29:04,460
I see. Okay. So the bottom is currently at basement level.

1056
01:29:04,460 --> 01:29:06,120
So if we're looking at that front facade,

1057
01:29:06,120 --> 01:29:09,280
they would measure from the bottom of the first floor,

1058
01:29:09,800 --> 01:29:10,860
which is correct. Plenty. Okay.

1059
01:29:11,160 --> 01:29:13,680
Thank you. Correct. From the main floor up and to the roofing.

1060
01:29:13,740 --> 01:29:17,340
Yes. Okay. So that keeps them within in the category.

1061
01:29:17,560 --> 01:29:19,080
Okay. Okay.

1062
01:29:27,500 --> 01:29:32,420
While we're talking measurements, the applicant stated something in the range

1063
01:29:32,420 --> 01:29:40,480
of 4,200 square feet, I believe. If you flip to the next page. Oh, we're going the wrong way. I think you

1064
01:29:40,480 --> 01:29:48,700
get one of the elevations. Or it may be in, it may be in there again. Yeah. Is it one more? There's,

1065
01:29:48,700 --> 01:29:54,940
there's a page that in our packet, and I believe it was on the presentation that shows, uh, 16,

1066
01:29:55,140 --> 01:29:59,520
nine hundred square feet total. Yes, is this, is this on the cyclone?

1067
01:30:00,270 --> 01:30:10,650
Good. Yeah. I'm a side plan. I think if you keep going, it shows you the first floor basement. Keep going. There we go, bottom, left middle of the page, I guess, as you have it there.

1068
01:30:13,870 --> 01:30:29,310
To Commissioner Philpott's question a second ago, is there a minimum and or maximum square footage for the residents in this zoning district? So as I as I've stated,

1069
01:30:29,310 --> 01:30:36,430
When we're looking at the lot square footage, they have to at least have a minimum of 20,000 square feet.

1070
01:30:36,970 --> 01:30:43,070
So as long as the applicant is able to adhere to that, then the structure itself is fine.

1071
01:30:43,490 --> 01:30:48,550
There's not a minimum for heated space if that makes sense.

1072
01:30:49,230 --> 01:30:49,570
Capture.

1073
01:30:50,490 --> 01:30:50,710
Okay.

1074
01:30:51,870 --> 01:30:56,350
So as I would ask you to respectfully ask you to double check that.

1075
01:30:56,350 --> 01:31:00,590
I think there is a minimum square footage for the residents for zoning districts.

1076
01:31:00,810 --> 01:31:02,430
Am I not remembering that correctly?

1077
01:31:03,330 --> 01:31:04,470
I think there's a minimum.

1078
01:31:04,950 --> 01:31:06,030
I don't know there's a maximum.

1079
01:31:06,430 --> 01:31:10,350
However, what I'm trying to get to is there is an impervious surface.

1080
01:31:10,970 --> 01:31:12,130
So the impervious surface?

1081
01:31:12,910 --> 01:31:13,350
Yes.

1082
01:31:13,870 --> 01:31:17,270
So if that's the question, sorry, commissioner, if that's not right.

1083
01:31:17,270 --> 01:31:22,250
So if that's the question as far as the maximum impervious surface that they can have, they

1084
01:31:22,250 --> 01:31:23,950
can have up to 35%.

1085
01:31:23,950 --> 01:31:26,810
So there would be a restriction in that regard.

1086
01:31:26,970 --> 01:31:30,770
Right, but that's the square footage of the residents but the percentage of impervious

1087
01:31:30,770 --> 01:31:31,110
surface.

1088
01:31:31,430 --> 01:31:31,690
Right.

1089
01:31:31,870 --> 01:31:35,650
But that's pertaining to any accessory structures that they have on there.

1090
01:31:35,850 --> 01:31:44,010
So if they propose to put a pool on the property, then that is calculated into the impervious

1091
01:31:44,010 --> 01:31:44,330
surface.

1092
01:31:44,450 --> 01:31:46,690
The driveway, the pool, the driveway, they put it in.

1093
01:31:47,870 --> 01:31:52,050
Otherwise limit the size of the residents and or driveways and other things.

1094
01:31:52,310 --> 01:31:52,530
Correct.

1095
01:31:52,530 --> 01:31:53,190
Thank you.

1096
01:31:53,190 --> 01:32:02,470
And as with the applicants proposing as far as 6,900 square feet, we have advised the applicant

1097
01:32:02,470 --> 01:32:08,570
before that if they keep it under a minimum of 5,000 square feet, they would not do a hydrology

1098
01:32:08,570 --> 01:32:08,970
report.

1099
01:32:09,450 --> 01:32:15,150
But being that now the revised elevation does say 6,900 days over to 5,000.

1100
01:32:15,530 --> 01:32:18,090
So they must likely have to do a hydrology report.

1101
01:32:18,470 --> 01:32:18,670
Okay.

1102
01:32:26,490 --> 01:32:39,650
So the question that I have for you and I think we spoke about this in the work session, and I'm forgive me because I know this floor plan and the elevations that came in kind of late or have you.

1103
01:32:40,210 --> 01:32:48,350
So based on the on the previous elevations that we received, one of the questions that we had was driveway turnaround.

1104
01:32:48,350 --> 01:32:53,210
around. How is that impacting Street Coast School or Drive? It's a pretty narrow street.

1105
01:32:53,310 --> 01:32:58,330
I went down there just to take a look at the site. So with this, with the new site plan,

1106
01:32:59,790 --> 01:33:04,970
is that like, how does, how does, how is a driveway being proposed there?

1107
01:33:05,470 --> 01:33:12,510
So now the driveway, instead of how we were seeing it, as originally submitted, it was kind of a bit like a turnaround.

1108
01:33:13,490 --> 01:33:21,590
This time the applicant when they revise their application is a straight driveway and they're proposing just a two car garage instead of the three.

1109
01:33:23,590 --> 01:33:25,230
It's in the elevations.

1110
01:33:25,890 --> 01:33:29,550
Okay, because I'm looking at the site plan and it looks like there's a three car garage proposed.

1111
01:33:30,050 --> 01:33:33,190
If you go, I think a few slides keep going.

1112
01:33:34,170 --> 01:33:34,890
Keep going.

1113
01:33:36,030 --> 01:33:38,070
Yeah, right there. So that looks like a three car.

1114
01:33:38,530 --> 01:33:49,210
Okay. Um, confusion on D at the proposed elevations that were showed before. So this shows the two car. Right. Yeah.

1115
01:33:49,690 --> 01:33:55,870
Right. So I, and that, that was part of my confusion because even there, go back, even there, that looks like a three car.

1116
01:33:56,070 --> 01:34:00,590
If, if I'm looking at that correctly, one, the one in the top left, that looks like a three car garage.

1117
01:34:01,670 --> 01:34:06,210
If, if I'm looking at that correctly, although I could be wrong. So I just wanted to make sure that

1118
01:34:06,210 --> 01:34:10,890
But I'm looking at it the way that it's supposed to be viewed and then to Commissioner

1119
01:34:10,890 --> 01:34:11,890
Valenzano's point.

1120
01:34:12,050 --> 01:34:16,550
Do we know what the impervious surface pressure is at this point or no?

1121
01:34:16,730 --> 01:34:17,730
No, we do not.

1122
01:34:18,270 --> 01:34:18,390
All right.

1123
01:34:20,470 --> 01:34:28,320
Because as stated the applicant provided conceptual eva of the renderings.

1124
01:34:29,280 --> 01:34:35,900
The applicant has provided conceptual renderings so we will know the impervious calculations based

1125
01:34:35,900 --> 01:34:38,520
on when they're doing their LDP process,

1126
01:34:38,520 --> 01:34:40,960
as far as if they're proposing

1127
01:34:40,960 --> 01:34:43,900
to have any accessory structures to the property.

1128
01:34:45,000 --> 01:34:48,160
As far as you know, are there any other accessory structures

1129
01:34:48,160 --> 01:34:49,380
that have been proposed or no?

1130
01:34:49,820 --> 01:34:51,180
Um, not to my knowledge, no.

1131
01:34:51,360 --> 01:34:51,460
Okay.

1132
01:34:56,720 --> 01:34:57,380
Go ahead.

1133
01:34:58,640 --> 01:35:01,540
I'll just add some of your line of questionings.

1134
01:35:01,720 --> 01:35:04,640
If you, I just want to be clear that staff's recommendation

1135
01:35:04,640 --> 01:35:07,980
did not include any stipulations requiring

1136
01:35:07,980 --> 01:35:14,360
that it match these elevations or the site plan or that it have a minimum unit size.

1137
01:35:15,260 --> 01:35:21,080
So what that would mean is if the R20 zoning district doesn't have a maximum size,

1138
01:35:21,440 --> 01:35:25,020
but they say the minimum, if there was a minimum, was 1,500 square feet.

1139
01:35:25,240 --> 01:35:28,700
Based on the zoning alone, they could build that structure.

1140
01:35:29,840 --> 01:35:31,180
The accessory structures, which-

1141
01:35:31,180 --> 01:35:35,640
Not an accessible structure, much smaller than what they've presented here at zoning.

1142
01:35:35,640 --> 01:35:43,680
I typically would recommend that if your expectation is that they're building what they've presented, you would need to stipulate that.

1143
01:35:44,360 --> 01:35:55,560
So if when you make your motion, if that is your expectation and what you would like to see there, I would add a stipulation that says substantially in accordance with the elevations and site plan provided.

1144
01:35:58,840 --> 01:36:05,120
I'm sorry, the applicant is stating something I don't know if you would like to hear from them.

1145
01:36:05,260 --> 01:36:07,900
Yes, please, because I was actually going to ask the applicant a question.

1146
01:36:12,340 --> 01:36:16,660
My husband had mentioned the impervious surface was 4,800.

1147
01:36:27,100 --> 01:36:34,900
I'm trying to get clarification so as you know, there was there was one set of elevations

1148
01:36:34,900 --> 01:36:40,160
that came in that we looked at first and then we have a second set of elevations.

1149
01:36:40,160 --> 01:36:40,740
So,

1150
01:36:42,940 --> 01:36:45,560
let me say conceptual elevations, we'll set that way.

1151
01:36:48,900 --> 01:36:56,400
As you're building out this home, which concept are you trying to remain close to the

1152
01:36:56,400 --> 01:36:57,300
first one or this one?

1153
01:36:57,800 --> 01:37:07,100
So we provided design concepts to get recommendations to add to the final design that will be submitting

1154
01:37:07,100 --> 01:37:16,940
to the community development because the reason we did that was, we did not want to pay

1155
01:37:16,940 --> 01:37:21,160
like thousands of dollars to an architectural, to an architect without knowing whether

1156
01:37:21,160 --> 01:37:28,860
or not there was going to be a rezoning process guaranteed or there may have been additional

1157
01:37:28,860 --> 01:37:31,680
stipulations that would have influenced the final design.

1158
01:37:31,680 --> 01:37:38,560
So we were looking for recommendations so we could have the final design and place at the application.

1159
01:37:38,960 --> 01:37:39,140
Okay.

1160
01:37:39,640 --> 01:37:40,220
All right.

1161
01:37:40,440 --> 01:37:40,720
Thank you.

1162
01:37:45,520 --> 01:37:53,700
Question to staff on a residential property or private property, are there any design guidelines

1163
01:37:53,700 --> 01:37:55,120
that we need to be aware of?

1164
01:37:55,200 --> 01:38:01,340
I know that we've spoken about design guidelines for previous applications, but those were more

1165
01:38:01,340 --> 01:38:02,700
so for commercial properties.

1166
01:38:02,700 --> 01:38:07,940
So I want to make sure that I'm not missing anything for a residential or private property.

1167
01:38:09,060 --> 01:38:16,220
So for residential, to my knowledge, there's no design overlays as far as residential.

1168
01:38:16,980 --> 01:38:22,980
Unless you're located in our design standard districts where typically Veterans Memorial,

1169
01:38:23,720 --> 01:38:26,020
Maple Tim, Parkway, and Austell.

1170
01:38:26,680 --> 01:38:29,180
Well, Glow Drive is right there off of the VMAGE, so.

1171
01:38:29,180 --> 01:38:39,540
Right, but with but based on where it's so on our zoning map it indicates which ones are we're talking about as far as the the ones that

1172
01:38:40,320 --> 01:38:46,300
Facing the the main roads. So if it's facing hostile road then that that's different

1173
01:38:46,300 --> 01:38:52,100
But since this is go drive and it's it's not facing the main main road

1174
01:38:52,100 --> 01:38:56,100
If that makes sense, and I also want to

1175
01:38:56,100 --> 01:39:00,700
Um, have a point of clarification based on Commissioner Valenzano's question.

1176
01:39:00,960 --> 01:39:09,020
So we do have a minimum of 1,200 square feet for, for, for the, um, the first base for the main, for the main area.

1177
01:39:09,400 --> 01:39:11,360
Oh, the next one is 1,200.

1178
01:39:11,480 --> 01:39:11,800
Yes.

1179
01:39:12,080 --> 01:39:12,180
Okay.

1180
01:39:14,120 --> 01:39:14,640
Okay.

1181
01:39:19,270 --> 01:39:23,050
If I may, I don't, this is just a point of discussion.

1182
01:39:23,050 --> 01:39:27,830
And I know we're not supposed to answer questions directly from anyone speaking at the podium.

1183
01:39:27,830 --> 01:39:57,810
but just for the benefit of all, I think the confusion that is in place, that this property is labeled as a general commercial or a zone currently zone general commercial but had a house on it for decades is why the city of

1184
01:39:57,810 --> 01:40:01,850
or that to appoint a commissioner in Valenzano has made.

1185
01:40:02,410 --> 01:40:06,490
Yes, so there are about three properties that I believe

1186
01:40:06,490 --> 01:40:08,410
as indicated on the zoning map.

1187
01:40:08,890 --> 01:40:12,930
There are three properties that are zoned GC.

1188
01:40:14,070 --> 01:40:16,510
And unfortunately on our zoning map,

1189
01:40:16,810 --> 01:40:19,510
we understand that there's residential homes on it,

1190
01:40:19,690 --> 01:40:22,010
but for some reason we have our zoning map

1191
01:40:22,010 --> 01:40:23,770
that says this is general commercial.

1192
01:40:23,770 --> 01:40:34,330
So this is one of the reasons why staff was it's recommending approval because it does meet with the future line use destination as far as medium density residential.

1193
01:40:34,990 --> 01:40:35,470
Correct.

1194
01:40:39,380 --> 01:40:40,060
Yes, go ahead.

1195
01:40:41,660 --> 01:40:47,380
I do like working with you guys because you're good critical thinking and makes me go back and double check certain thing.

1196
01:40:47,980 --> 01:40:53,180
So the veterans memorial guidelines, the design standards do extend into this area.

1197
01:40:54,240 --> 01:40:58,740
It does look like, for the most part, it is for commercial development, though, versus residential.

1198
01:41:00,240 --> 01:41:04,020
But we will, as part of the development process, if there's anything about like street

1199
01:41:04,020 --> 01:41:07,220
trees or anything, as part of these desired guidelines, we will make sure that we capture

1200
01:41:07,220 --> 01:41:07,500
that.

1201
01:41:07,680 --> 01:41:11,140
But just so you know, it is within that, that it is within that area.

1202
01:41:11,500 --> 01:41:11,700
Okay.

1203
01:41:12,040 --> 01:41:16,720
But it's not applicable to a residential property, just commercial, okay.

1204
01:41:19,600 --> 01:41:22,820
Thank you, Commissioner Valenzano, for that point of clarification.

1205
01:41:25,120 --> 01:41:29,980
This is not the first time nor is it going to be the last time that we come across this kind of situation.

1206
01:41:31,520 --> 01:41:39,480
And sometimes we find ourselves playing the role of the villain when we're faced with kind of cleaning up these situations.

1207
01:41:40,660 --> 01:41:44,720
For this particular property, I am not opposed to it.

1208
01:41:45,600 --> 01:41:47,200
I'm not opposed to it at all.

1209
01:41:48,380 --> 01:41:51,280
I think there's some things that we may want to see.

1210
01:41:53,320 --> 01:41:58,980
Again, my confusion, my only confusion is the difference in elevations and I understand

1211
01:41:58,980 --> 01:42:06,420
from the applicant standpoint, there's an investment to be made in final elevations or

1212
01:42:06,420 --> 01:42:06,980
renderings.

1213
01:42:07,740 --> 01:42:12,000
But right now, I'm not totally sure I know what this home is going to look like.

1214
01:42:12,000 --> 01:42:22,520
but also there's no landscaping plan, and again, from the first one, there was some type of landscaping plan, but now this one, there is no landscaping plan.

1215
01:42:23,200 --> 01:42:37,100
So I'm not totally sure how that landscaping plan would play out. I know there needs to be a buffer between properties, or at least there's a proposal to have a buffer between properties.

1216
01:42:37,100 --> 01:42:50,840
So this is where the applicant has also mentioned during the point when they're speaking about this application that they are amenable to whatever the council sees fit.

1217
01:42:51,620 --> 01:43:06,280
That's that's one of the reasons why being that planning staff has not received the landscaping plan.

1218
01:43:06,280 --> 01:43:14,120
land disturbance permit. Okay I mean I think for me I think a landscape buffer separating

1219
01:43:14,120 --> 01:43:21,420
the properties would be more than likely would be ideal because I think excuse me I think

1220
01:43:21,420 --> 01:43:27,820
next to it if you go back I think maybe two slides so that you know right there is fine so

1221
01:43:27,820 --> 01:43:35,220
we see GC we see in MDR for the for the existing zoning category in the future land use but

1222
01:43:35,220 --> 01:43:39,400
but the property where it says 500, is that GC as well?

1223
01:43:40,340 --> 01:43:40,480
Yes.

1224
01:43:41,000 --> 01:43:41,240
Okay.

1225
01:43:41,640 --> 01:43:44,760
And what is the future land use for the surrounding properties?

1226
01:43:44,900 --> 01:43:45,200
Do we know?

1227
01:43:45,380 --> 01:43:46,300
Is it MDR or?

1228
01:43:46,760 --> 01:43:55,740
So these properties have the, sorry, so these properties have the issue right here on the

1229
01:43:55,740 --> 01:44:00,220
other side that it has a future land use destination of community activity center.

1230
01:44:00,760 --> 01:44:02,600
So that would be, that's more of a commercial use.

1231
01:44:02,820 --> 01:44:03,040
Okay.

1232
01:44:03,040 --> 01:44:11,960
So for the properties are facing lines club drive their zone for and their zone and their future line needs

1233
01:44:11,960 --> 01:44:19,240
destination is commercial. It's just the residential characters when we're looking into when we're looking into

1234
01:44:19,240 --> 01:44:31,860
floor. So for clarification is everything in yellow on that MDR? So yes, the mustard I'm going to say it's a

1235
01:44:31,860 --> 01:44:38,280
medium density residential, and the why is the low density residential and what you're seeing is the red, which is the

1236
01:44:39,100 --> 01:44:45,820
The community activity center. So every property adjoining this property is future land use medium-design. Okay, as a residential

1237
01:44:45,820 --> 01:44:50,620
I don't think I don't think there's a need for a buffer between this property and it's adjoining properties

1238
01:44:50,620 --> 01:44:59,980
There may be some need in the future for the CAC on the other side of the road. Gotcha, but the other thing to your previous line of discussion

1239
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:29,900
Motion, I think we need to be careful, warning every detail on a rezoning. That's as staff has pointed out what they will do when they get to the LDP. We're just here to make sure our 20 works. The applicant has said they're willing to work with staff. I think we need to take them at their word at this moment. Oh, I believe in. I believe in. Do we have any other questions? Any other discussion?

1240
01:45:29,900 --> 01:45:31,980
question for this one?

1241
01:45:34,000 --> 01:45:36,440
No? Okay. Are we ready to entertain a motion?

1242
01:45:39,630 --> 01:45:40,410
Wait, before we do

1243
01:45:40,410 --> 01:45:47,190
that, there was a stipulation concern that you expressed and I just drew a blank

1244
01:45:47,190 --> 01:45:54,670
honor. I'm sorry. I stated if your expectation is that this development look a certain way

1245
01:45:54,670 --> 01:45:59,950
or be a certain size, you would need to add that to your motion. So it could look like

1246
01:45:59,950 --> 01:46:05,570
you stating that the final architectural design can be determined, you know, at time of

1247
01:46:05,570 --> 01:46:10,930
building permit, but should be substantial in character or quality to what was presented

1248
01:46:10,930 --> 01:46:11,730
in the application.

1249
01:46:12,130 --> 01:46:12,290
Gotcha.

1250
01:46:12,630 --> 01:46:12,750
Okay.

1251
01:46:14,030 --> 01:46:14,230
Okay.

1252
01:46:16,330 --> 01:46:17,030
Anything else?

1253
01:46:17,850 --> 01:46:18,150
Okay.

1254
01:46:18,430 --> 01:46:23,290
Would you not like to entertain a motion, let me make sure I'd say this, this one correctly.

1255
01:46:24,250 --> 01:46:25,890
Are you going to entertain a motion or are you going to make a motion?

1256
01:46:25,890 --> 01:46:26,850
I'm sorry, I make a motion.

1257
01:46:27,230 --> 01:46:28,190
It's been a long day.

1258
01:46:29,270 --> 01:46:34,510
So, yes, so I'd like to entertain a motion for REZ 2026-007,

1259
01:46:34,730 --> 01:46:39,470
like to entertain a motion to approve this application

1260
01:46:40,190 --> 01:46:44,750
with staff stipulations or staff recommendations

1261
01:46:44,750 --> 01:46:49,930
along with an additional stipulation for the final architecture

1262
01:46:50,870 --> 01:46:55,690
to be close to or substantially close to

1263
01:46:55,690 --> 01:47:01,430
do what has been presented along with, you know, along with staff approval.

1264
01:47:05,030 --> 01:47:07,190
And do we have a second?

1265
01:47:08,830 --> 01:47:09,910
I select it in the motion.

1266
01:47:10,250 --> 01:47:12,250
We have a second from Commissioner Valenzano.

1267
01:47:13,030 --> 01:47:15,550
Any discussion before we take our vote?

1268
01:47:16,870 --> 01:47:17,710
No discussion?

1269
01:47:18,550 --> 01:47:18,850
All right.

1270
01:47:19,250 --> 01:47:20,310
All in favor say aye.

1271
01:47:20,690 --> 01:47:21,110
Aye.

1272
01:47:21,710 --> 01:47:22,350
Any opposed, aye.

1273
01:47:22,410 --> 01:47:22,550
nay.

1274
01:47:23,770 --> 01:47:24,350
The ayes have it.

1275
01:47:24,370 --> 01:47:25,190
Let the record reflect.

1276
01:47:25,890 --> 01:47:29,130
I's have it for unanimously for zero.

1277
01:47:31,090 --> 01:47:33,770
So with that, thank you to the applicant.

1278
01:47:34,050 --> 01:47:36,530
We appreciate you putting this together for us.

1279
01:47:39,820 --> 01:47:44,740
This will be on the August 26th, okay, so you'll have the opportunity to go before City

1280
01:47:44,740 --> 01:47:45,040
Council.

1281
01:47:45,220 --> 01:47:46,500
Again, we make the recommendation.

1282
01:47:47,160 --> 01:47:48,720
We didn't make a final decision.

1283
01:47:48,900 --> 01:47:50,460
We're making a recommendation of approval.

1284
01:47:50,660 --> 01:47:55,940
City Council will be the final arbiter, would they make an either say, yes, along with staff

1285
01:47:55,940 --> 01:48:09,420
if they can plan a commission or they could say no or whatever it is that they decide but nonetheless we appreciate you being here we appreciate your interest in the community and we wish you the best.

1286
01:48:09,740 --> 01:48:18,380
If I may really quickly just before you get to City Council I don't know that they'll allow this to be handed out at that time so I highly recommend you get an electronic copy to staff for them to share.

1287
01:48:18,580 --> 01:48:19,320
Thank you.

1288
01:48:19,320 --> 01:48:22,520
or a physical copy, I think that can give it to Susan.

1289
01:48:23,320 --> 01:48:26,440
Yeah, I think she'll take a physical copy.

1290
01:48:27,520 --> 01:48:32,300
I believe what the applicant has presented, the Planning Commission was what was presented to

1291
01:48:32,300 --> 01:48:35,900
you already on the staff report and the presentation.

1292
01:48:37,400 --> 01:48:41,020
Is it more of a physical copy that they presented to you?

1293
01:48:41,360 --> 01:48:42,100
Gotcha, okay.

1294
01:48:43,440 --> 01:48:48,360
So that is 6A, we don't have any other new business.

1295
01:48:50,560 --> 01:49:11,360
So with that, did we have any other final discussion points amongst the planning commission before we adjourn in the other discussion, yes, no, staff, staff and council, did we have any other anything else that needed to be brought forward before we adjourn?

1296
01:49:11,360 --> 01:49:12,600
No, Mr. Chairman.

1297
01:49:12,960 --> 01:49:13,680
Okay, thank you.

1298
01:49:14,160 --> 01:49:20,900
So with that, again, thank you to the community who showed up, like we said before,

1299
01:49:21,440 --> 01:49:22,940
your voices is needed.

1300
01:49:23,220 --> 01:49:23,820
It's appreciated.

1301
01:49:24,380 --> 01:49:30,160
We want to make sure that you are a part of this process, continue to show up, continue

1302
01:49:30,160 --> 01:49:34,540
to show up, continue to voice your concerns, because that's how we will grow as a community.

1303
01:49:35,000 --> 01:49:41,160
This is not my hours, or anyone, one particular person's community is all of our

1304
01:49:41,160 --> 01:49:45,840
communities. We all live here, we all wanted to grow and we all want to be able to be the

1305
01:49:45,840 --> 01:49:53,480
best that it can be. So with that, I will make a motion to adjourn. Do we have a second?

1306
01:49:54,320 --> 01:50:00,140
Second. Second from Commissioner Valenzano. Any discussion? Didn't think so. All in favor?

1307
01:50:00,320 --> 01:50:04,940
Say aye. Aye. Any opposed to say nay? Dies have it? We're adjourned.