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hearing of the board of zoning and
building code of appeals is now called

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to order at 6:32
on December 17th. I ask the recording

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secretary to please call a role for
attendance of members on the board.

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» Mr. Colado,
>> yes.

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» Mr. Shalo,
>> yes.

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» Mr. Freda,
>> Mr. Scott,

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» yes.
>> Mr. Felman.

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» Yes.
>> Also present from the building

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department is zoning inspector Chris
Hall and law director Marketti.

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All persons in the audience are required
to sign in. Did you sign in by any

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chance?
>> I guess so. I signed

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» both. Okay.
>> Uh required to sign in on the

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registration sheet. If you have not done
so already, please do so. If you wish to

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speak at the hearing, you will be
required to be sworn in as in any court

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hearing.
Uh we're not going to go over the

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minutes this week from last meeting.
We're going to wait till next meeting

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and do all of them all at once.
All persons wishing to speak on the

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issue will please raise your right hand
and affirm this.

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Do you solemnly swear that the testimony
you will be giving before this board is

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to the best of your knowledge and
accurate and truthful presentation of

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the facts? If so, say I do.
>> I do. Now in turn, please state your

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name and relationship in the case to the
recorder of voice recognition.

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» I'm Jeff Snow. I'm the attorney for the
applicant.

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» Mr.11.

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» Thank you. The hearing will be conducted
in accordance with the provisions of the

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state of Ohio sunshine law. The notice
of the hearing was duly published in a

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newspaper in general circulation in the
city of Macedonia.

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The notice is available for review upon
request at the building department. The

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rules of the board require affirmative
vote of three members in order to pass

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regardless of the number of members
present at the hearing. The hearing is

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conducted in an informal manner to
review the evidence and to respond to

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questions. However, there is an outline
of steps that will be taken in order.

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The appellet does not have to be present
for the board to hear the case as

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publicized.
Each case number and request will be

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announced as a turn arrives. The first
case number today will be 10.

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» Is that right?
>> No, it's 722. The case number.

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» Yeah, Chris, we don't have that.
>> 722.

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» 722 is the case.
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but it is 722.
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Um each case number will be announced as
a turn arrives. The first case number is

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722 and the appeal form is in order to
the secretary and any is there any

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correspondence from a notified adjacent
property owners?

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» No, there is not.
>> Is there any unsolicited correspondence

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regarding this case?
>> No, there is not.

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» Will the zoning inspector please state
the city's position?

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This is a continuation of the November
19th, 2025 meeting uh case number 722.

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The Board of Zoning and Building Code
Appeals will hear a request for a

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variance at 1011 East Aurora Road. The
variance is to section 11711

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E2A.
Parking and access drives shall be set

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back from the street rightway a minimum
of 20 ft. The applicant is requesting a

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variance to reduce the setback from the
rightway to 10t 8 in a variance of 9 ft

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4 in.

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» Does the board have any questions to the
city?

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» I have one question. What was the
variance on la last meeting? If you

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could just kind of uh bring me up to
speed. Last last month it was a variance

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of what?
>> 10 feet 8 in and now it's

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» it's a variance of 9 feet in 4 in. The
setback would be 10t 8 in. The request

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tonight is a 7 foot variance based on
the drawing of the oneway.

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» I'm sorry to interrupt sure that's
clear. The variance was 9'4 in. We've

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decreased that by 25% based on the
suggestion of a oneway and side load

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parking. It does save um approximately 3
ft. So we're asking for a 7 foot

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variance
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» which means the front yard would be 13
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» Okay.

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» The board will now allow the
presentation from the appellet.

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» Sure. I think we summarized this in our
letter. We were fortunate enough that

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the architect got it to us one day
before the due date and we were able to

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bring that to you. Um this is a decrease
from 9 f' 4 in to 7 ft which was a 25%

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decrease uh for the variance. Um he's
also decreased the number of parking

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spaces because of the side load. So we
go from 17 spaces plus one handicap to

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14 spaces and one handicap another
decrease. The variance is consistent

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with the neighborhood. I carefully went
over what the other ones are. Uh there's

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there's setbacks of those areas that
vary from the 20 ft of 2 and 1/2 ft to

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13 ft along the uh eight properties in
this area. There are only two properties

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that actually comply with the setback.
Dr. Bodies is one of those and the car

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wash is the other. We are um you know I
don't want to belabor it. We are seeking

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the variance of only seven feet based on
the suggestion of rerouting this the and

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making it a oneway the um factors that
you look at here these are based on the

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city's ordinances and also a case out
there called Duncan versus Middlefield

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and that's to set up to question what
are practical difficulties as I said

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initially last month our practical
difficulty is we cannot move the

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building back 7 ft in order to avoid a
variance. We can't get parking in the

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front. We brought the realtor. We didn't
bring them again, but you know, he's

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been marketing the property the entire
time. We were close with a financial

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services um client, but they didn't want
to pursue the property and pursue the

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build because they were concerned about
parking in the front of this property.

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It is a practical difficulty with the
property. We cannot move to the

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building. Gordon Food Service next door
has this identical thing, a seven foot

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variance. I brought that last month. We
are consistent with what's in the

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neighborhood. This is the minimum amount
that we need. Um we have had a long

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journey in this matter and we a very too
long and we hope that Dr. her older

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buddy is actually excited about building
this out and getting rid of those

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drive-thru lanes and putting parking in
the front. We have onethird of that

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building which is not rented. It is not
usable space as it sits because we

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cannot put parking in front of it.
>> That's the new the new section you're

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talking about.
>> No, no. Part of our existing building, a

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third of our building is not used. It is
you may not realize it, but it's walled

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off. to the drive.
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» Nobody want
>> nobody wants it. It has a part of the

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drive-thru. We want to rehab that and
extend the space underneath the roof and

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then put in the parking. Your suggestion
of trying to minimize the variance was

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helpful in getting the architect to kind
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» Gentlemen, I apologize.
>> Oh, no problem.

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» First time in three years.
>> Um, I'm going to stop you right there.

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>> Chris, would you do another roll call,

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please?
>> Sure. Mr. Palato

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» here.
>> Mr. Shel,

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» yes.
>> Mr. Ayafredo,

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» speaking.
>> Mr. Scott,

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» yes.
>> Mr. Fawson,

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» yes.
>> Thank you, sir. I'm sorry. Go ahead.

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» No problem. So, we have diligently tried
to market the property to find tenants.

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We were very close with service tenant.
The issue is the parking and being able

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to easily access it. We have tried
various ways of

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finding other ways to get parking there.
um next to the building, but that

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driveway limits what we can do on the
west side of the building.

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» I see you take you took Mr. Scott's
ideas and put them to good use.

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» I think we I hope we did. Um I think he
did a really good job. We didn't have a

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lot of impact. We we you told him what
to do.

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» That's the good thing that he has
background good background with

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construction. So that never came to my
mind otherwise I would

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Does the realtor have any concerns with
So we're losing a few parking spots.

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Does that impact your potential?
>> Well, the idea is we need we need we

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need something this way. This way
this way you have immediate access to

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the to the property. But
>> I think answer your question, Bryant

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France. Okay. This property without the
new parking spots has more parking

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spaces than needed.
>> Yep. So, yeah. So, I got that, but I

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know we're just the front parking was
was an issue. So, I know you're losing a

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few, but is that an issue with the
realtor?

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» We asked him, he said it's still better
than nothing.

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» Yeah, right now we have nothing. And so,
we are happy with something. We are

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losing about what what amounts to three
spaces. It's 16%. I did the calculation

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of it, but we can work with it and and
you gain you gain basically almost three

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feet.
>> Um so we're trying to minimize that

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variance. We also have um landscaping
here. We still go to the planning

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commission. He brought his original
plans um just brief. Those plans were

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originally approved. Dr. Alabati sat
with the mayor before he bought the

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property and talked about this. That was
Mig Joe Miglerini at the time. He went

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before the planning commission. This
plan was approved. exactly like we have

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it. But then he didn't build it within
the year. So that plan expired, right?

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» So we had to start again and that's what
created the variance issue. And that's

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created
>> this is what it's going to be right now.

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» You have an opening here. You're going
to have to move the the um entrance.

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Okay. And this is going to be all one
way all the way around. Correct.

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Well, you have to open up this this
driveway across the street from Tractor

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Supply.
>> You're widening it.

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» You're widening it.
>> We're not changing the alignment.

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» No, no, the alignment straight with with
Tractor Supply.

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» I mean, uh, Gordon Food Ser. I'm sorry.
>> Yes. And then the rest of the

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landscaping. I see that you put a a
block garbage garbage can in the back in

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the corner.
>> Yeah. Yeah. all the new landscaping all

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around. You're going to have to go
through planning commission to get that

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all approved.
>> Okay. But they'll like that probably and

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they may give you some more suggestions.
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yeah, I thought Mr. Scott did a pretty
good job here and it really did save

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some some space and I really don't think
you're losing much to be true. Okay. The

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only problem I have, and I know that
this has been from day one, you don't

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want your customers or patients to walk,
okay, far. Okay. I don't feel that one

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handicap parking space up front is
sufficient. I would like to see all

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three of these spots as handicap. Okay.
The existing door that you have now,

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entrance to the dentist office, there is
no handicap there.

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» No, there is no
I drove through it.

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» There are there are codes that govern
that also.

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» I understand
I will have three parkings handicap park

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for the property. One in the front here
and two out here they are existing.

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» But your suggestion is that these turn
into handicap.

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» That's absolutely right. Yeah.
[clears throat] That's was your main

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thing coming in here. You didn't want
people walking 200 feet. Okay. So, if

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you're only going to give one handicap
for the person that can't make it 20

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feet, all right, make all three of these
up front. All right. Handicap.

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» All right. You have 17 or
>> But that limits that that limits the

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customers that can park there. So, I
>> Well, they can park right across the

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street right here.
>> Well, but I can again that's not exactly

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exactly what we're not here to discuss.
codes that

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» we have to go before the the planning
commission here.

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» Correct.
>> And we will be there to discuss it once

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if you grant a variance. We will talk to
them about handicap spaces and what

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should or shouldn't be handicapped
because this over here might also

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function as a handicap space because it
has a side load.

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» Um you'll see that this handicap space
has a side load area. So a handicapped

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van could unload.
>> There's minimum require requirements uh

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you know for these type
and we're not we're not looking we're

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not here to discuss anything outside of
that. Uh so any any codes that govern

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that is outside of this meeting to be
quite

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» Chris. What is the code on that? Do you
know?

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» Excuse me. the code
>> the code on

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» hand no
>> like I said the thing is you know I just

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we're we're we're talking about what the
layout is and this is what we talked

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about last time in the last three times.
Okay. So I rather get it out on the

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table here. Okay. If I have to go to the
planning commission meeting, I'll go to

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the planning commission meeting and
bring it up to them. Okay. But your main

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thing when you came in here from day one
was your

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problem, okay, of handicap or not
handicap but the walking distance. Okay.

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[clears throat] And I don't feel one
parking spot for handicap is sufficient

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is what I'm telling you. Okay?
>> So you could do that on your own or wait

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to the planning commission, whatever.
But I'm going to recommend it to the

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planning commission. Okay? It's a good
recommendation.

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» Y
>> whether it gets somewhere or not is what

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we're here to vote on.
>> I'm here to discuss about

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not other codes.
>> So, we don't have anything further

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unless any of you have questions. We
appreciate your time and we want you to

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earn your $5 quicker. I didn't even know
that you guys are paid $5.

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Yeah. So, I appreciate your time and
your energy in looking at this and we

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appreciate the suggestions that you've
made all along the way.

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» Well, I I will say this. I'm glad you
took the suggestions and I'm glad we

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were able to meet again. Uh and this has
been a long time coming. I wish I I wish

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I would have been here, you know, in the
beginning of this. Um you know, not

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having parking in the front along the
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everybody else does. I see you took my
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disappointed that your architect chose
60° versus 45° which would then minimize

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the impact on the road. So I not to beat
a dead horse, you know, we're talking,

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you know, you're saying 16% that would
decrease that to about 14%. If you went

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from 60% uh to 40 60° to 45° uh but you
know I I think this is long overdue. I I

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think in my opinion um there's been a
compromise on both ends. Um but once

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again bit disappointed that you guys
chose 60 degrees versus 45 degrees when

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we're trying to minimize the impact.
Okay. That was a choice you guys made.

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Just saying it's disappointing.
>> Give us more parking spots.

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» It' be less.
>> So So what what the it wasn't the amount

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of parking spots that you were coming
here for. it was front parking. There

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was never anything specified on the
amount of parking, but we're trying to

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minimize
>> the impact on the city, right? So

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minimize would be 45° versus 60. So what
we did is we instructed the the uh

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architect to come up with a plan that
had siloed and we didn't have a I I

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didn't know there was a difference with
regard to it and I appreciate it and we

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can certainly talk to them as we get to
a final plan.

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» Yeah, I think that would be more
appropriate than the 60° because we are

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trying to minimize.
>> All right. And and the reason why we

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went with the side load parking is to
minimize and we all agreed on that.

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Okay. So this is like almost there but
then a half a step back, right? So

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that's a little disappointing that he
chose that knowing that we're trying to

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minimize the effect. Well, I I
appreciate the the words and what I do

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want to say about these factors so we're
clear. These are factors that no single

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factor controls this and you don't have
to meet all of these factors. Does that

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make sense? So I know one of the factors
is um whether the inentral character of

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the neighborhood would be changed uh
whether it um you know it could be

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minimized in some other way. Those are
all like as a group not one not every

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one of them necessarily has to be met.
What we will do is we will work with the

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architect and the planning commission to
come up with a plan that would meet all

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their expectations too.
>> Yeah. And usually what dictates whether

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you're going 45° or 60° is the lane
traffic that you have to approach that.

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And this I believe you have 19 18 ft 19
ft which is plenty

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uh to go to 45° and it actually makes
your approach even a little bit more

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comfortable to be quite honest and it
makes it minimize uh the depth that you

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have on the property. It's better use of
the space.

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» Could you do that on both sides?
>> You can do it here and you can do it

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here
>> because you wouldn't want to make one.

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» And then you got this double hashed here
for next to the handicap. It would get

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pushed that way and you don't lose
anything here because

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» I'm just I'm just wondering if from your
expertise could we do it on could they

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do it on
>> You should do it on both sides.

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» Yeah, you would want to. Yeah,
>> that's all I'm asking.

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» I I would tell him that if this pass
today, I would tell them to see if he

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can revise it to be 456
>> contingent on that change. I I I would

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recommend the board approve this
contingent as drawn contingent on that

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change. I don't know how to properly do
that

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discussing this
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this angle and you go this angle you
need more more space like more this more

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variance like instead of being
>> it'll be less variance

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» you'll need less variance
>> trust more this once it's strong you'll

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see you'll need you'll need less
>> we did not have a lot of an impact with

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the architect we basically said this is
You're lucky you got it back that quick.

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» Well, we were amazed that we made the
day and then that week we didn't think

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we were getting it and then we just for
like we need it

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» at 60% we're at we're at 7 ft 60°
>> 60° I'm sorry at 40° probably going to

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be where about 6 foot
>> 45 degrees. So that that that that's a

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change of what are we looking at 25%. So
15 30 45 60. So it's a 25% change in the

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tangent. So you know you're going from
60° to 45°. So you're just changing that

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a little bit. So we went from 9 ft to 7
ft. That'll bring us probably down or

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whatever the math was that we're asking
last month. This month it would drop

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down a little bit. We get more in line
with our bylaws or whatever it's called

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that you know minimum necessary.
>> Any other questions?

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So are you looking to make a motion
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» I don't know how to properly do that.
>> So what I would suggest for the motion

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if I if you don't mind
>> go ahead.

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» Um based on your discussion would be a
motion to grant the amended variance

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request of a of a 7 foot variance
subject to compliance with any

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applicable regulations imposed through
the Alexandria Square Association

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and contingent on the parking angle
being reduced from 60° to 45°.

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And if you want to do the handicap
parking handicap parking, if you want to

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put it in, if not, I'll go to planning
commission.

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» I mean, that's so somebody can say so
moved if you want to make that motion.

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» So moved. Absolutely. [clears throat]
>> Unless you have anything else to add to

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that.
>> So moved, which what you talked about,

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or the handcap,
>> what I what I just read. So if you make

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the motion, if you say so moved,
>> so moved.

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» Then somebody can second it.
>> I second.

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» You can make a motion to amend to add on
the handicap if you want and then you

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guys can vote on the handicap aspect
>> afterward.

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» Right now
>> I would like to add on the handicap to

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the extra handicaps in the front on the
>> I just need to bring your attention if

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we're going to do three handicap in the
front and the other two handicap the

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property will have five handicap. It's
from 42 to from 42.

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I already have existing two hand
>> by the this by this door here.

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» You're telling me you have two at this
door here.

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» I have
>> at the existing entrance to the dentist.

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» There's two.
>> There are two in the rear. And that's

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how I saw one side
to each other.

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» There's two each other.
>> Well,

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» okay. So, so Chairman Plato, if I'm
understanding correctly, you want to

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make a motion to amend the main motion
to recommend to the planning commission

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that they consider requiring handicap
parking as you've stated.

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» That's correct.
>> Is that correct?

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» Yes.
>> Okay. So, you can say so moved.

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» So move.
>> If somebody wants to second it, you guys

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can then vote on it. If there's no
second, then

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» there's no second and you just vote on
the main motion.

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» I'll second that motion.

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Chris, you take a roll call, please.
>> Hold on.

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» This vote for everything.
>> This vote is only on adding the handicap

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recommendation to the planning
commission.

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» Okay,
>> Chris.

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» Mr. Palado,
>> yes.

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» Mr. Shela,
>> no.

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» Mr. Hya,
>> yes.

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» Mr. Scott,
>> no.

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» Mr. Fossil,
>> no.

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So the motion to amend fails. So now the
main motion is in front of you uh to

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grant the variance request as amended
subject to the Alexandria Square

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Association regulations and contingent
upon the parking angle being reduced

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from the 60° to 45°. We can have
discussion or call vote.

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» Mr. Pado,
>> is there any discussion? Anybody want to

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add anything to that or discuss
anything?

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Okay, Chris,
>> go ahead.

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» Mr. Shel,
>> yes.

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» Mr. Alfredo,
>> yes.

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» Mr. Scott,
>> yes.

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» Mr. Fossil,
>> yes.

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» You didn't do me.
>> You referred to

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» I don't I didn't say anything.
[laughter]

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» Oh, did you call?
>> Yes.

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» Did you say?
>> No, I said yes.

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» Oh, okay. Thank you so much. So, case
722

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has passed
and you'll be going to the planning

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commission.
>> Thank you very much.

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» Yes, you're welcome.
>> We'll consider all your thoughts here.

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» That would be great.
>> Thank you.

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» How long has this been going for?
>> Three years.

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» Years.
Merry Christmas everyone.

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» We appreciate that.
>> This is the fifth time this

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Thank you so much.
>> Have a great holiday.

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» You too.
>> Merry Christmas everybody.

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» Okay. And happy new year.
>> And I'd also like to thank the service

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department and the rec center. Okay. For
the lights in Longwood Park

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and the service department for keeping
these roads

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» clean. All right. And the safety forces
because they're on top of Santa Claus

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and all. So, thank you very much. Merry
Christmas to everybody. Happy New Year.

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And um I guess we'll set up a meeting
for January for officers. Chris. Okay.

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We'll see what's going on there. All
right.

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» I will not be here. [clears throat]
>> Okay. Anybody else?

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» I have grand jury duty for two months.
>> Yeah. Have a good time. Um

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» well, we'll see. Um we may just set it
up anyhow because it's not going to be

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no big deal. Um,
>> if you guys need a secretary, I can come

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in for that, too.
>> Okay, I'll let you know. And the only

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thing is is the minutes. If you got them
done, send them to me or drop them off

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at the house and I'll sign them and
we'll go from there. Okay.

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» Um,
motion to adjurnn.

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» Thank you all of you very much.
Thank you.

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Merry Christmas.