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Good afternoon. It's called the public service meeting together. Please stand for pledge of allegiance. I pledge of allegiance to the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, and you know, liberty and justice for God.

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Item number three, adoption of the agenda, please. I don't adopt the agenda. Support center.

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Chair, adoption by Romano, seconded by Zinner, please vote.

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Commissioner Perna, the system didn't receive your vote.

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The system didn't receive your vote, would you like me to put it in for you?

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Motion passes 12 to zero.

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Item four, approve of a minutes of August the 12th.

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So motion, go up, move.

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Motion by Grant, seconded by.

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Go ahead, go ahead, go ahead, go ahead, go ahead, go ahead, go ahead,

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go ahead, go ahead, go ahead, go ahead, go ahead, go ahead, go ahead, go ahead, go ahead.

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Item five, this is a public participation.

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Anyone from the public wishes to speak on anything that's on the agenda?

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Anyone from the public?

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Anyone from the public?

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We have a closed public participation.

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Thank you.

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Item six, public department recommendation.

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We have a budget amendment here, planning, economic development, Southeast, Michigan,

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Dean Council of Governments, Macogh.

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Planning Assistant Grant Program,

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Macomb Orchard Master Plan, is Vicki here?

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We need a motion to motion by Goi-Ki and Mr. Sergeant.

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Right.

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Okay.

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Right.

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Vicki.

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Yep, good afternoon commissioners.

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So what you have in front of you is a budget amendment

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for a some kind grant that we received

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for a rewrite of Master Plan for the Macomb Orchard Trail.

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the amendments for $45,000.

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In the discussion, Mr. Sabatini.

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Thank you, Chair.

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Hi, Vicki.

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So just quickly on this one, this is a grand match

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for a little over $8,000.

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It looks like for general fund dollars.

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Can we use road funding out of this rather than general fund?

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Is it required that we get general fund dollars?

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So we in our budget and in the planning and economic development budget

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to have a line item for match for various grant projects.

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And so with this one, with the 8,000 plus change

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that we are gonna be bringing to the table,

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we're able to draw down the same cash dollars.

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Okay.

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So what we've submitted, I mean wherever the money comes from

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that, you know, right now we've got RIN that will come

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from our budget.

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Okay, so the 8,000 is already in your budget allocated

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specifically for matches.

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Okay, what I'm just curious, what's that budget amount

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on approximately that you've got budgeted for grant match.

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For community planning grant match, it's about 120,000.

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120, okay, great, thank you.

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Commissioner Romano, my question has been answered.

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Thank you, Chairperson.

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I'm done.

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Mr. Chair, thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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So is it specifically coming out of the Federal Government's earmarks 10% for

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our sidewalks and those kind of stuff on the money that comes back to us.

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So does that money coming specifically out of that deep, you know, funding so it's not coming out of the roads?

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No, so it is coming out of through Semcog through their tap grant program.

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So 36,000 of that is through the federal government that gets directed to Semcog and

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then Semcog directs it to anyone that submits a response to the proposal.

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in this case we were one of the awardees for that particular grant.

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And our money coming back, so it's not we don't get that unless we go through for the transportation money.

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Right, so we submitted a response to the TAP grant application that Semcog is the primary fiduciary of those dollars that come in through the federal government.

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Okay, because I was just trying, you know, specifically to see if we're utilizing our money that comes up for trails and bicycle stuff because I know that 10% is earmarked, you know, for that program, and I wasn't sure if it's coming to the county, we have to specifically use that money for it.

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No, that's something that's separate and distinct, I think believe you're talking about like the public act 51 funds that come through the county

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No, that would be something different than why would it be different because it's still for the trade of you know bicycle paths and stuff and that's what that's for

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Well, those dollars don't come directly through some cog where this particular grant is coming directly through some cog

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Yeah, I get it. I understand that it's coming through some cog, but I don't understand why we can't be using our match money from PA 51

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That's specifically for bike paths and stuff because that seems like there's money in that correct.

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I mean, that could be another option what these dollars are going to be used to pursue is the master plan.

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Typically with a master plan, there will be some recommendations.

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Maybe perhaps some projects or priorities that we could look at some funding options to help fund those recommendations.

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Okay. Thank you.

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I just noted in the request here, the money is actually coming from general funds, so I know you said it's coming out of your budget, but that's now with the motion and so I'll support this today, but if we can just figure that out by full board and get that situated, that'd be great.

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Correct, I think maybe perhaps that was an administrative error, but yes, it would come out of our funds.

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Okay, thank you.

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Thank you, chair.

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Thank you, you know the speakers please vote.

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Thank you, Vicki.

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Thank you.

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We go on to a six, I'm going to combine six B, C, D, E, F, and G.

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Motion to approve the full board.

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The board.

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Chair, would you prefer that I present each of them all first before asking questions or one at a time for questions?

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No, one at a time.

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Go ahead Greg.

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So starting with the first one, requesting the approval of the agreement with HNTP Michigan to provide engineering services for a three-year asset management program from September 1st of this year to June 30th of 2029, the amount of $354,393 for the Department of Roads.

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Any questions?

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Item C?

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Okay, requesting the approval of the contract for traffic operations engineering services with AECOM Great Lakes for engineering services for the traffic operations center at a total cost of $3,759,954 in 38 cents.

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Federal funding covering 80% and Department of Roads covering the 20% remainder.

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questions, please continue.

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Requesting the approval of the MDOT contract, outlining the terms and costs for

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the replacement of the bridge on 21 mile road over Salt Sling, Glowty Drain, at an estimated

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total cost of $6,125,000.

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Federal bridge funds covering $4,667,090 in Department of Roads covering just over 1.4 million.

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Thank you, Chair.

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Welcome.

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How long do you think that's going to take to get that bridge repaired?

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We are anticipating starting construction on that.

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I believe in November and it will go throughout the winter.

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This is one of the, it's a little bit of a different, we normally do this work over the summer,

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but we are going to try and do this over the winter to try and avoid some of the other projects

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that will be forthcoming in 2027 in that same area.

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We anticipate being done with this probably by June.

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Wow, thank you.

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It's all here.

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Any other speakers?

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Item E, please.

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Requesting approval of the cost share agreement,

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outlining the participation between Huron Academy and Macon County Department of Roads.

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For the installation and annual maintenance of traffic signal devices,

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located at steeple chase drive and Utica Road, with an installation cost of $200,000.

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and you'll maintenance of 3,000 to be paid for by here on Academy at no cost to the department.

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Question on that, are you going to be putting a stop light or just a signal there?

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You're in Academy.

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It looks like it's going to be a full signal from what I can tell.

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Because you have metro parkway, you're in Academy, Utica Road.

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So it's only half, we're not doing a half a mile,

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you have another stoplight there.

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Yeah, and it might be, you know,

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sort of like how it operates at Freedom Hill,

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where it gives the caution for the through traffic

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until such time as, you know, it's required.

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I don't know the details on that particular signal,

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I could check on that for you and get back to you if you'd like.

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And the steeple chase residents across the street,

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they've signed off on that,

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where's there any discussion with them?

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That I do not know, I would have to check

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with our traffic operations.

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All right.

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Thank you.

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Those are questions.

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Item F, please.

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Requesting approval of the grant agreement with the United

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States Department of Transportation, FHWA, to provide the safe

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streets for all grant program from January 1st of 2027 to project

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completion in the amount of $1,250,000, $100,000 of county

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cost and funding available in the 2026 traffic budget.

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No discussion?

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What's your commission, Greg?

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I mean, quirky.

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Working, okay, it's a G.

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What does this safe streets for all?

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I'm not familiar with that.

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So I say grant initiative that the federal government puts forth.

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It's sort of an annual program where people can apply for grant funding to improve safety measures on different public roads.

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whether it's signal enhancements or installations of bypass lanes, certain measures that are typical for enhancing public safety in that regard.

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So would they go to your department to ask for that grant or go to the federal government?

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We would apply through the federal government grant program that they would offer.

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And is there a waiting list kind of on things that you already have in file already to go to or is it pretty open right now for new projects?

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I think there's sort of always a rolling list. Some projects carry over depending on the complexity of them.

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Others are a little bit more straightforward and are implemented a little bit quicker.

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For example, a mid-black crossing is something that could be done quicker.

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other times we try and leverage these dollars to be included with a larger road

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project so that it can help offset some of the costs of what would be sought

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after for a typical road project. Yeah, on a lot of big projects that's really

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not a lot of money. You got to put big crosswalks and stuff in a little major road.

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Thank you very much, sir. Yep. Chair.

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I can't complain about a grant. This size

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Yes, you know, that's great.

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That really, correctly, is a study of five intersections

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throughout the county?

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Or is it, or is it just the general county-wide?

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I believe it was for a couple of specific intersections.

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And it's generally, if our traffic department

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sees that there's a commonality between those

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as far as crash types or safety issues there,

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They can let us an economy of scale in deploying those solutions for that.

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And this is for like studying the traffic and stuff, not actual road work.

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Correct, it would go towards safety specific measures.

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Thank you.

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Thanks, sir.

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That's great.

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You know, the speaker, one more last question, Greg.

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You're an academy.

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When does that light going to be installed?

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I believe that this is for a, it'll probably be sometime next year, next year, next year.

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It sounds like that the grant is for the 2027 year.

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No other discussion, please vote.

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I'm going to abstain on item E, and I'm involved with that school.

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Please vote.

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We'll have to separate,

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we'll separate, we'll go A, B, C, D, and F, and G.

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Please vote.

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Do you need separate motion?

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I'm separating.

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Motion passes 12 to zero.

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And now we'll vote on E, E. I'm going to abstain.

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Make a motion to move either forward please vote

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Motion passes, 11 to 1, with Commissioner Perna abstaining.

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Thank you. Thank you, Greg. Thank you.

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Do we get that there was another one for safe streets? I think there were two of them. G. Yeah, we covered it. We covered it. We covered it. We covered it in the first mission. Thank you very much.

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And now with great pleasure, thank you, turns me over to Commissioner Romano.

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Thank you, Chair.

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All open records in Public Safety Committee,

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item 8, A.

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Thank you.

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It's a contract with Wal-Path, LLC, inmate health care services.

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This is a three year agreement for $1,559,309.

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We have Sarah Gillis, Director of Juvenile Justice Center, who's going to make a presentation.

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I need a motion to recommend this a full board.

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Motion by Wallace, support by Mr.

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Howard.

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Gillis, please.

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Good afternoon, commissioners.

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I'm actually Robin Lentz, Deputy Director of the Juvenile Justice Center.

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I'm here on behalf of Sarah Gillis.

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She is at the Michigan Juvenile Detention Association conference.

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We have a staff who's being honored with an award,

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so she is there with that staff to present that award to her.

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So she apologizes, but that's very important.

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So I am here to present the healthcare services contract.

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The contract would take effect October 1st,

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be valid for three years.

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We are asking for well-path to be the identified healthcare

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their vendor. They have been the provider since 2011. We have a great working collaborative

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relationship with them. It was also the lowest bid of the three we received. So we would

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like permission to move forward with that contract.

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Thank you. I see no questions. We have

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a motion in support. Please vote.

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Thank you.

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Motion passes 12-0.

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thank you. Let's go to item B which is a budget amendment. It's Circuit Court

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fiscal grant fund for $45,615. So we have Susan Zabel from the Court

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Finance Director. I also need a motion recommended full board.

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The board. Motion by Commissioner Haas,

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Supported by commissioners.

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Lucido.

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Lucido.

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Miss Abel, we got three of you.

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Good afternoon.

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Okay, any mining?

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Yes.

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We're here today to bring forward several,

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actually several grant amendments,

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but they're all in one fund.

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So I've put them together, but in the motion,

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they're all spread out.

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You can see the different grants.

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Some went up, some went down a little bit,

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and we're just here to give those amendments through.

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That's it, three of you are going to speak, huh?

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Unless there's questions.

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You sure you don't want to say anything else?

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In terms of the money, it's money that's already been committed through grant funding.

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But we have to move the money around because quarterly, we have to account to the state government.

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And then we get bills in and then we have to remove the money around.

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So it's just moving money that's already been committed.

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Thank you.

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I see no speakers have a motion in support.

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Please vote.

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Motion passes 12 to zero.

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Thank you, ladies and

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welcome on to item C, which is also a budget amendment emergency management fiscal year 2025

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operations stone garden program

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It's 268,125 dollars. We have mr. Lewis here director of emergency management. I need a motion recommend this the full board

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Who made the motion?

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Okay, we both can make a motion who's going to give?

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I'll make the motion, Ms. Lucido, use the report of that motion.

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Mr. Lewis.

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Good afternoon, commissioners.

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The operation stone garden is an annual grant that we get from the Department of Homeland

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Security to support law enforcement operations along the U.S. border.

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So it is distributed amongst the Sheriff's Office, New Baltimore Police Department, Chesterfield

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Police Department, St. Clair Shores Police Department, for border security operations that

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those departments incur. Our annual award for 2025 is $268,125 and I'm seeking a amendment

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to the emergency management grant fund to accommodate the revenue and expenditures from that

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grant. It's nice to share, isn't it? It's always nice to share.

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I see no speakers.

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I have a motion in support. Chair, if I choose to see something. Sorry, I didn't see a

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look. There you are. I'm fine with the item but I just wanted to say thank you. I know

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you recently had the emergency management meeting.

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Not too long ago for this building, thumbs up.

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I just wanted to give you kudos for that.

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Thank you.

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Thank you, Chair.

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Thank you.

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Okay, seeing what the speakers have,

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a motion at support, please vote.

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Motion passes 12 to zero.

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Thanks, Brandon.

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Moving on to item number D, which is a contract

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with Tyler Technologies, computer,

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AIDF dispatch CAD, records management system,

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RMS Cloud Migration and Software Service Agreement.

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I don't even know what this stuff is.

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It's a mouthful.

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Six million, $793,580.

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I need emotion and support.

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Moved by Commissioner Graff,

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support by Commissioner Wapolis, Miss LC, please.

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Good afternoon.

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The item before you today to help explain it

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is a five-year agreement with Tyler Technologies,

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a vendor, very familiar to the county, you've heard me speak of them many times.

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They're a current vendor for a computer-aided dispatch or CAD.

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It's the software system we use to enter the information from the 911 colors and share it with the responders.

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And the records management system, or RMS, is what you'll hear referred to.

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Not a new vendor, Sheriff's Office, and all of our affiliated public safety agencies have used Tyler CAD and RMS for many years.

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actually since 2013 when we originally signed the contract and we've been live

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with them since 2015. But this renewal is for our current agreement that

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expires at the end of this year December 31st, but it also represents a

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significant modernization of the system itself. So today our Tyler environment is

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primarily located or hosted locally on county infrastructure and under this

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agreement. We will be migrating to Tyler's cloud hosted platform. So that means Tyler will assume

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responsibility for hosting the infrastructure, the system administration, maintenance software

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updates, data storage, and any type of technical support in reference to the servers.

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There are also two significant consortium changes included in this project. First,

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First sterling heights has been a part of our dispatch consortium for 11 years now, but they've continued to maintain their own records management server.

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And as a part of this migration, sterling heights will decommission those servers and move on to the county shared RMS environment.

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That's a records management system meaning we'll be able to share records and data sharing, especially when we share borders and provide the same nine or one service to those communities is really exciting.

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Also, Warren Police and Fire Dispatch will be joining our CAD environment.

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So beyond renewing the Tyler Agreement, this project also consolidates public safety

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technologies across the county.

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It reduces duplicate infrastructure, improves resiliency, and gives our participating agencies

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a more unified platform for record sharing.

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And I do want to spend a minute explaining the financial piece because the contract value

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you can be a bit misleading on its face.

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The total estimated five-year value of the agreement

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is $6,793, $607, $6,793, $580.

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I should have rounded.

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However, the county is the master contract holder

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or the consortium.

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So Tyler invoices us for the entirety

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of the agreement annually.

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And then we invoice all the affiliated agencies

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for their respective shares just as we do today under our existing interlocal agreements.

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So of that $6.79 million, the sheriff's office actual five-year share including the one-time

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implementation fee is approximately $2.1 million over the five years.

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The remaining approximate $4.7 million will be reimbursed to the county by our affiliated

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agencies of that amount of that 4.7 approximately 2.1 of that is Warren's

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chair with their cat consortium and within our own 2.1 million dollar share

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those costs are divided between the sheriff's office specifically and the E911

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budget. So funding for this is available in the E911 fund. We are including this

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in our fiscal year 2027 budget proposal because the contract does not expire until December 31st of this year and we are not invoiced for any services until those services are delivered, which won't be until mid-2027.

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And with that, I am happy to take any questions.

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And we have some.

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Okay.

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Thank you Mr. Chair, thank you for being here, so my understanding is by doing this well, let's open up any

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storage space for our data collection fact because it's going to all going to go there and out to their data center

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Like it in Tom tech so that we can utilize the space that we're already having for that. Yeah, I would imagine that there would be rest space available

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from decommissioning those physical servers, but I can check with my

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IT colleagues who are here for a specific answer.

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That would make sense, right?

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But no.

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OK, Jen's telling me no.

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So I'm glad that they're here, because I'm wrong.

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But no.

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Well, just for me, common sense is like it kind of could

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be a savings for us if, you know, in what aspect is we're

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not going to be as using as much electricity, you know,

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for operations of it and stuff like that.

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So I think my wrong, she's coming up.

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There we go. Thank you. Hi, I'm Jonathan Phrylliam and I'm the infrastructure manager. And Angela is partially right.

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The servers that we host Tyler on will not be needed anymore. So those servers will go away. There's far storage.

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The storage is on those services not on our overall network storage. So there's no storage that way.

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Okay. So but we're not going to have to pay the cost for our servers anymore.

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So there's been a lot of service and that's as small as it may be, but it is, to the bigger cloud.

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So, thank you very much.

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You're welcome.

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Bigger data.

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Thanks, Commissioner.

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Chair Stephanie.

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Thank you, Chair.

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Angela, hi.

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How are you?

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So just a couple of questions, so just to follow up on that.

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So, we're going to the cloud, so all the backups will be handled on their side going forward.

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Correct.

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Okay.

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Okay, and then I kind of understand the breakdown of the numbers, which I see city of warrants paying a portion, we're paying a portion.

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And then there's some one time set up fees to get this all done.

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So, are we paying on the county side all the initial set up fees or is our partners, are they also contributing to that total?

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Our partners are also contributing to that as well.

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So the one time setup fees are they vary for every agency because not everyone uses the same thing.

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So the one time cost allocations are based on the agencies receiving the associated service.

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Everything with a software as a service contract now is almost like a site license.

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So it's not as granular as what we're used to, which is if you want this thing and you

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want 17 of this, you pay for quantity of 17, now it's one lump sum and it's unlimited

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and we had to find a way to really build a good cost allocation system.

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So we really first broke it down and looked at who uses let and then what percentage of

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answers from each agency use that and that's how the cost was determined.

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Okay, and then for our partners, I assume that they were housing this on their

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servers as well locally, will they no longer need to do that?

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Sterling Heights was the only one.

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Correct.

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Yes, okay.

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Sterling Heights was the only one housing anything on local servers.

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They had their own mobile and records management server.

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And for years, we've said this is silly, right?

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We're both paying for these costs and we have this weird data sharing agreement and it's not,

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that doesn't work super well all the time, just join this.

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So other than that, all of our affiliated agencies

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are hosted on our servers.

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And we have complete visibility and data sharing

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amongst all 12 agencies that are out there.

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Okay, great, thank you.

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Thank you, Chair.

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Thank you, Chair.

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I see no other speakers.

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I have a motion and support.

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Please vote.

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Motion passes 12-0. Thanks, thanks, Ms. LC. Thanks for coming.

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All right, we're moving on to items E, F, and G. I'm going to take those together, if I may. So more.

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I have a motion by Commissioner Haas supported by Commissioner Sinner.

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And the

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item is a budget amendment for Lance Cruz School's school resource officer for $50,837.

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Item F is a contract with Lance Cruz School for school resource officer for $207,756.

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And item G is a position schedule amendment to sheriff's department.

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increased position count by one full-time deputy, and we have Commander Elbrough who's going to go through all three of these and explain it to us.

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Commander Elbrough.

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Thanks for having me, board chair and commissioners.

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What we're asking for the Sheriff's Office is to prove the contract amendment with one deputy position for

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Lance Cruz schools to provide one SRO for their middle school from September 1st of 26th, all the way through the contract expiration of December 31st of 27th.

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In the amount of $207,756, I'm asking for a movement in our budget amendment as well as a new contract, a new position, and also a schedule change to add it to our complement.

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This is at no cost of the county. This is a grant position provided by Orange Peacefuls.

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Thank you, Commander.

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I see no questions.

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questions? Oh,

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is that H-O-U-G-H?

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Could be. Comments are on.

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Thank you, Chair. Hi, again, Commander.

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Hi.

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From an Arctic standpoint, and budget item E,

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it says school resource officer 50,837, and then

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the item F is school resource officer 207.

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What?

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Correct. So as you can see, as a schedule,

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I believe that should have been scanned into you, is that $50,837 will cover us through the rest of this year from September to the end of the year.

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And then you have a full contract for 12 months of a 156,919.

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That will give us that whole movement of $207,756.

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Thank you, and be safe.

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Thank you.

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Thank you, Commissioner.

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Thank you, come here, does anybody else want to speak?

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I was going to speak, but Commissioner Hall took my wind away again.

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I

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see no other speakers have a motion in support. Please vote.

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Motion passes 12-0.

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Thank you.

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Thanks, Commander.

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Item H.

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Position Schedule Amendment.

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Chair's Department, increased position count by one full-time deputy, and we have Jeffrey McPherson

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Captain who's going to speak on it, and they didn't motion recommend this a full board.

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So moved.

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The forward?

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I have a motion by Commissioner Howard, supported by Commissioner LeCeto, Captain McPherson,

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please.

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Afternoon, commissioners.

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I am very excited to bring forward the proposed crisis response unit.

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It is another fantastic partnership between the Sheriff's Office, Community Mental Health

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and Community Corrections.

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We're going to be bringing a deputy sheriff, partnering them with a trained mental health

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professional to respond to the behavioral health crisis calls and also do follow-up on those

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calls.

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It's a great effort and goals in line with our future project, Suffolane Take and Assessment

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Center, but the ultimate goal of reducing incarceration of these individuals and getting

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they know the proper treatment and help that they need instead of incarceration and also

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hopefully reducing use of force and cars and things of that nature.

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Thank you, Kevin.

474
00:34:32,170 --> 00:34:38,490
If I may, Commissioner Grafft, CMH is coming up with some of those orgies for this, isn't

475
00:34:38,490 --> 00:34:38,610
you?

476
00:34:38,750 --> 00:34:40,810
You want to speak to that?

477
00:34:43,810 --> 00:34:46,890
CMH is always willing to help Commissioner Romano.

478
00:34:47,190 --> 00:34:47,690
Do we know that?

479
00:34:47,690 --> 00:34:49,170
No, this is a fantastic program.

480
00:34:49,230 --> 00:34:51,090
We've been working on this for a while now,

481
00:34:51,090 --> 00:34:52,850
and it's great to see it finally come to fruition.

482
00:34:53,230 --> 00:34:57,310
And as you know, as CMH, we're great partners

483
00:34:57,310 --> 00:34:58,990
with Community Corrections in the Sheriff's Office.

484
00:34:59,170 --> 00:35:00,630
And hopefully if this goes well,

485
00:35:00,790 --> 00:35:03,410
we can continue this program and add even more so.

486
00:35:03,770 --> 00:35:07,030
But yes, we are funding portion of that project.

487
00:35:07,170 --> 00:35:08,130
But we are mean to CMH.

488
00:35:08,710 --> 00:35:09,550
Thank you.

489
00:35:09,810 --> 00:35:10,230
Thank you, Kim.

490
00:35:10,850 --> 00:35:11,290
Any speakers?

491
00:35:12,750 --> 00:35:13,390
Christopher Howard?

492
00:35:13,930 --> 00:35:15,090
Just a quick question.

493
00:35:15,090 --> 00:35:26,450
And sometimes when units like this are established like the officer might be dedicated for this and then they get pooled for other things like what's the likelihood of that happening or is this like full dedication for justice unit.

494
00:35:26,910 --> 00:35:31,310
They're going to have more than enough work, they're going to be completely dedicated to this unit.

495
00:35:31,910 --> 00:35:34,790
Sounds great. Thank you. This is such a great program. Thank you for doing this.

496
00:35:35,150 --> 00:35:35,230
Yes.

497
00:35:36,790 --> 00:35:37,950
Any other commissioners?

498
00:35:39,820 --> 00:35:42,720
Seeing no other commissioners, I have a motion in support. Please vote.

499
00:35:50,500 --> 00:35:51,840
Motion passes 12-0.

500
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:52,620
Thank you.

501
00:35:53,180 --> 00:35:53,880
Thank you.

502
00:35:56,150 --> 00:36:00,910
Item I is a contract with Clemens Authority's participation agreement for $3,000.

503
00:36:01,390 --> 00:36:03,670
I need a motion to recommend this to full board.

504
00:36:03,910 --> 00:36:04,070
Hello.

505
00:36:04,630 --> 00:36:05,310
Is it boarded?

506
00:36:05,550 --> 00:36:10,590
Moved by Commissioner Lucido, supported by Commissioner Wallace.

507
00:36:11,810 --> 00:36:15,010
And we have Mr. Beando, Chief of Special Prosecutions.

508
00:36:15,910 --> 00:36:16,470
Mr. Beando.

509
00:36:17,210 --> 00:36:34,150
Good afternoon commissioners on behalf of Prosecutor Bacito who is present today in the boardroom along with several members of his administration I just want to begin by thanking the board for the opportunity to be heard on critical agenda items we like the board to review and ultimately approved for the full board next week.

510
00:36:34,150 --> 00:36:38,970
I thoroughly briefed each agenda item that's up today.

511
00:36:39,330 --> 00:36:42,150
And so I'm just going to briefly comment on each agenda item

512
00:36:42,150 --> 00:36:46,250
to the extent that maybe the VOC recommendation sheet

513
00:36:46,250 --> 00:36:48,350
or the attachments just maybe missed something

514
00:36:48,350 --> 00:36:49,350
because of the context.

515
00:36:50,030 --> 00:36:52,330
And so for this, as we indicated in the paper work,

516
00:36:52,330 --> 00:36:53,810
this is an intergovernmental agreement.

517
00:36:54,210 --> 00:36:55,770
This is why it's before the board.

518
00:36:56,210 --> 00:36:57,290
The funding is available.

519
00:36:57,850 --> 00:37:00,270
Maybe what was missed in terms of the paper work

520
00:37:00,270 --> 00:37:02,390
is the business case specifically for our office.

521
00:37:02,390 --> 00:37:25,110
This is another investigatory tool for investigators to trap down defendants, crime victims, and witnesses when the information we have, as far as their address is stale or out of date, in the context of defendants, it would be four purposes of a proper reimbursement unit to basically pursue child support on behalf of parents who are old child support.

522
00:37:25,110 --> 00:37:32,910
and then the second piece is on occasions are regularly defendants who fulfill what the court

523
00:37:32,910 --> 00:37:36,890
orders them to do in terms of the sentence sometimes they come back and file motions for

524
00:37:36,890 --> 00:37:42,390
expungement so we want to be able to have this tool available to track down victims to get their

525
00:37:42,390 --> 00:37:47,990
input on whether or not you know what they feel about those motions for expungement and so with

526
00:37:47,990 --> 00:37:52,570
that it'd be happy to answer any questions the board might have agenda item I.

527
00:37:55,250 --> 00:37:56,130
This is all coming

528
00:37:56,130 --> 00:37:57,150
Any other prosecutor's project?

529
00:37:57,690 --> 00:37:58,110
Yes, sir.

530
00:38:02,710 --> 00:38:03,890
Any commissioners have any say?

531
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:07,420
I have a motion in support.

532
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:07,940
Please vote.

533
00:38:20,530 --> 00:38:22,670
Commissioner Guaigui, the system didn't receive your vote.

534
00:38:22,910 --> 00:38:23,030
Yes.

535
00:38:24,230 --> 00:38:25,710
Motion passes 12 to 0.

536
00:38:26,310 --> 00:38:27,110
Thank you, Mr. Biano.

537
00:38:27,230 --> 00:38:27,610
Thank you, commissioner.

538
00:38:28,010 --> 00:38:32,690
All right, we're going to move on to items J-K-L-N-M.

539
00:38:33,810 --> 00:38:36,410
First one is the contract that the U.S. Department of Justice,

540
00:38:37,030 --> 00:38:39,790
special attorney's program grant award acceptance.

541
00:38:40,270 --> 00:38:42,470
It's a total grant award for $693.

542
00:38:42,470 --> 00:38:53,670
dollars in $693,441, so no cost to the county. Item K is a resolution 2026-159-18. This

543
00:38:53,670 --> 00:38:58,910
is a resolution deeming prosecuting attorney's positions necessary in fixing salaries for

544
00:38:58,910 --> 00:39:07,370
the additional of one grant fund principal trial or under public act 329 as amended. Item

545
00:39:07,370 --> 00:39:11,890
L was a contract with U.S. Attorney's Office for the Eastern District of Michigan Memorandum

546
00:39:11,890 --> 00:39:21,550
I'm a understanding and item M is a budget amended prosecuting attorneys grant fund DOG special attorneys program grant budget $50,200.

547
00:39:22,490 --> 00:39:24,490
I need a motion to move these full board.

548
00:39:29,390 --> 00:39:30,950
We are going to do it one at a time.

549
00:39:30,990 --> 00:39:32,130
Just wouldn't be the full board.

550
00:39:38,050 --> 00:39:39,190
I have a motion on the floor.

551
00:39:39,270 --> 00:39:39,890
Did I get a support?

552
00:39:41,210 --> 00:39:41,690
Support.

553
00:39:42,350 --> 00:39:43,530
Support by Mr. Perna.

554
00:39:44,590 --> 00:39:45,670
Let's start with item number.

555
00:39:45,770 --> 00:39:46,090
I'm sorry.

556
00:39:46,330 --> 00:39:47,950
Commissioner Wallace made the motion.

557
00:39:47,950 --> 00:40:00,020
and Commissioner, let's go to item J, which is a contract with the U.S. Department of

558
00:40:00,020 --> 00:40:03,280
Justice Special Attorney Program Grant Award, Mr. Bando.

559
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:04,960
Thank you, commissioners.

560
00:40:05,620 --> 00:40:10,740
So of course, these are four related items, but with regards to the item J, the normal

561
00:40:10,740 --> 00:40:15,780
process once a department receives a grant award is to submit it through contract routing.

562
00:40:15,780 --> 00:40:22,020
now this grant award is dated July 31st and on August 5th we submitted that to contract

563
00:40:22,020 --> 00:40:28,800
routing to go to the executive. There was no action in contract routing with respect to approving

564
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:34,320
the grant award and so on August 19th we submitted this as an agenda item to come before the board

565
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:42,600
under the board's contracting authority and it was moved forward after we submitted it on August 19th

566
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:47,720
on August 21st to come before the board and so we're just asking the board to approve

567
00:40:47,720 --> 00:40:54,000
this so that ultimately it gets signed off by the county and that we can in turn communicate

568
00:40:54,000 --> 00:41:01,020
the acceptance to the DOJ and times of the essence because we have only so much time to accept

569
00:41:01,020 --> 00:41:01,780
the grant award.

570
00:41:03,990 --> 00:41:08,310
Thank you. I have to answer any questions on that one. Any questions from any

571
00:41:08,310 --> 00:41:09,590
Make commissioners on item J.

572
00:41:15,060 --> 00:41:18,660
We'll move to item K. The resolution, Mr. Boundo.

573
00:41:19,100 --> 00:41:31,460
Yes, so this is pretty straightforward. Per the statute referenced, we of course need the board to amend the necessary and proper resolution to add the one principle trial lawyer that this grant provides for any

574
00:41:39,580 --> 00:41:41,400
commissioners were to speak on item J.

575
00:41:43,380 --> 00:41:47,740
Okay, okay, I'm sorry, item K.

576
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:52,640
Seeing none, we'll move on to item L.

577
00:41:53,420 --> 00:42:03,540
Yes, one of the conditions commissioners regarding the grant award is to also have a memorandum of understanding with the office for the Eastern District of Michigan.

578
00:42:04,140 --> 00:42:10,560
Technically, this is an intergovernmental agreement and so on that ground it's before the board for approval.

579
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:20,480
And this basically specifies the responsibilities and duties of McCombe County and the U.S. Attorney's Office with respect to this grant.

580
00:42:25,460 --> 00:42:27,120
Any commissioners, we should speak on it.

581
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:35,580
Let's move on to item. Is it L? Use the attorney's office?

582
00:42:35,940 --> 00:42:39,320
I believe M, sir. We did it.

583
00:42:39,720 --> 00:42:44,040
We just did. Let's move to the M, please. Budget and amendment prosecutor and attorney grants one.

584
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:52,080
Yes, thank you. Regarding this, we work with finance to determine, okay, how much do we have to amend the 2026 grants budget?

585
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:59,940
The grants budget excuse me to have the funding in there to pay for the principal trial lawyer starting October 5th through the end of the year.

586
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:11,360
That's the dollar amount and we're asking the board to approve this budget amendment to the prosecutor's grant budget to essentially add the new grant money to the grants budget for the prosecutor's office.

587
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:12,460
Again,

588
00:43:17,590 --> 00:43:19,170
any commissioners have any questions on it?

589
00:43:19,570 --> 00:43:21,070
Item M, which is the budget amendment,

590
00:43:24,100 --> 00:43:24,800
C9.

591
00:43:27,980 --> 00:43:33,600
An engine to vote on I, I'm sorry, on J, K, L, and M, please vote.

592
00:43:42,620 --> 00:43:43,900
Motion passes 12-0.

593
00:43:44,540 --> 00:43:45,020
Thank you.

594
00:43:45,500 --> 00:43:46,180
Thank you, commissioners.

595
00:43:46,720 --> 00:43:52,590
Okay, we're going to item letter number N and O together.

596
00:43:55,250 --> 00:43:56,670
N is the budget amendment.

597
00:43:56,850 --> 00:44:01,210
Prosecuting and Attorney's Grant Fund, DOJ, Hate Crimes Program, Grant Budget for

598
00:44:01,210 --> 00:44:02,610
for $89,800.

599
00:44:05,550 --> 00:44:08,850
Almost a contract with premier communications group,

600
00:44:09,010 --> 00:44:11,290
professional services agreement for hate crimes grant,

601
00:44:11,890 --> 00:44:15,510
totaling $108,600, which is no cost to the county.

602
00:44:16,070 --> 00:44:17,130
I need a motion to move.

603
00:44:19,490 --> 00:44:20,790
And an O together, please.

604
00:44:21,090 --> 00:44:22,090
So moved by Goyke.

605
00:44:22,510 --> 00:44:23,770
So part, Wallace?

606
00:44:24,310 --> 00:44:25,750
We've moved by Commissioner Goyke,

607
00:44:25,930 --> 00:44:29,560
supported by Commissioner Wallace.

608
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:32,780
Mr. Beando.

609
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:33,920
Thank you, commissioners.

610
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:37,020
This is similar to what we did with the conviction integrity

611
00:44:37,020 --> 00:44:42,000
I believe two months ago, we worked with the Department of Justice to submit a

612
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:48,060
GAM to shift funding that was in the prior year of the grant budget that we

613
00:44:48,060 --> 00:44:53,380
had not utilized for basically in the sense of having savings there because it

614
00:44:53,380 --> 00:44:56,760
didn't make sense to spend that money and so with this GAM or budget amendment

615
00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:59,980
with the DOJ they reviewed the contract with

616
00:45:02,420 --> 00:45:03,320
Thank you. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Thank you very much.

617
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:07,500
is to be able to communicate with the public about what a hate crime is,

618
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:09,580
how to properly report it with the police.

619
00:45:10,220 --> 00:45:12,500
We also are in communication under this grant,

620
00:45:13,020 --> 00:45:15,380
through our grant funded attorney running it,

621
00:45:15,720 --> 00:45:20,860
with providing trainings to police as far as how to handle these type of cases.

622
00:45:21,620 --> 00:45:24,860
And so we're asking the board to obviously amend the county budget

623
00:45:24,860 --> 00:45:27,140
to reflect what the DOJ did,

624
00:45:27,460 --> 00:45:31,320
and I'd be happy to answer any questions on either one of those items.

625
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:42,280
Just to be honest, I'm looking at a figure here, this is $89.08 and the next figure shows me

626
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:49,460
a $108,600, $20,000, $1,000 difference, where does that difference go?

627
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:54,780
Yes, so the difference is because we currently have in the county budget and the DOJ grant,

628
00:45:54,820 --> 00:45:56,880
we have the difference in there.

629
00:45:57,000 --> 00:46:02,660
What we're doing is we're increasing that amount by the $89,800 so that we have the full

630
00:46:02,660 --> 00:46:08,160
amount to pay for the contract for $108,000, $600 that was reviewed by the DOJ as a part

631
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:12,600
of this process and approved by the DOJ. And so in other words, we already had a line

632
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:19,280
on it with, I believe it was $18,000 in change, and we need to add another $89,800 in order

633
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:22,860
to have the full amount needed to pay the contract, sir.

634
00:46:23,100 --> 00:46:23,360
Thank you.

635
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:28,040
Commissioners, anybody want to speak on it?

636
00:46:30,700 --> 00:46:32,260
Seeing none, I have a motion in support.

637
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:32,860
Please vote.

638
00:46:32,860 --> 00:46:33,960
Motion

639
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:40,960
passes 12 to 0.

640
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:42,800
Thank you.

641
00:46:44,900 --> 00:46:51,440
Next item is item P, which is a budget amendment prosecuting attorney general fund in grant funds for 33,000.

642
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:57,400
Number one is an auto theft prevention authority grant increase in match increases 33,000.

643
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:01,380
Item two is a crime victim rights grant supplies and services.

644
00:47:02,260 --> 00:47:04,960
Postage and delivery transfer $3,000.

645
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:09,320
Item three is a general fund contract services axon,

646
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:12,960
one digital evidence system contract, a transfer of $30,000.

647
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:15,460
I need a motion to recommend this to Full Board.

648
00:47:15,620 --> 00:47:21,440
The Chair, I'd like to make a motion and recommend only item P1 to Full Board.

649
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:22,520
Support.

650
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:29,120
There's a motion on the floor to approve item P1 and item P1 only.

651
00:47:29,300 --> 00:47:30,640
You can speak on that, Mr. Beando.

652
00:47:31,100 --> 00:47:37,080
Yeah, so back in August, we were able to work with the State Police,

653
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:43,980
specifically the out of theft prevention authority, and they provided us a amendment to

654
00:47:43,980 --> 00:47:47,220
the grant award for the current grant that ends at the end of this month.

655
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:54,980
This grant award amendment revised the match from $37.63 to $50.50 in our favor.

656
00:47:55,540 --> 00:48:02,560
We're going to be able to receive in between a $33,000 to $44,000 in additional grant revenue

657
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:04,200
into the out of theft grant.

658
00:48:04,660 --> 00:48:27,800
Now, this happened at the same time as we had a need for parts two and three, which is why we were proposing this budget amendment as indicated here, but fundamentally what we're doing is saying the board every year says to all the departments, you have to work with the budgets provided to you by the board, you know, from the previous budget process, if you need to shift money around, you can come before the board to do that.

659
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:44,340
So by receiving the extra grant revenue, we thought we would come before the board and ask can we shift the money you entrusted us from the general fund that was going into the out of theft and move some of that money over to the cram victims rights grant and also the general fund contract services line.

660
00:48:44,340 --> 00:48:49,520
And I can wait to talk about those two items or I could talk about them now because it's kind of

661
00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:55,680
They're intimately connected here, but I'll stick on one. So like I said we looked at the three quarters of the grant year

662
00:48:55,680 --> 00:49:03,820
We're going to get at least 33,000 but we might get as much as $44,000 in additional grant revenue instead of asking for the full

663
00:49:03,820 --> 00:49:06,160
4,000 and grantment revenue to

664
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:08,280
basically be moved over

665
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:14,240
By reducing the general fund contribution to the auto theft and that reduction being moved to the other departments

666
00:49:14,340 --> 00:49:18,360
We were just looking to move the $33 that we need in those two other budget centers.

667
00:49:21,020 --> 00:49:21,980
Thank you.

668
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:28,320
Chair Sevatini.

669
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:29,300
Thank you, Chair Ijo.

670
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:37,620
So, you know, when these grants change, you know, our mentality has always been, once

671
00:49:37,620 --> 00:49:40,160
the grant goes away, everything goes away with the grant.

672
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:44,100
So I understand these are general fund matched dollars for the $33.

673
00:49:45,100 --> 00:49:48,980
I understand what you're trying to do, shift the money and use it for something else.

674
00:49:48,980 --> 00:49:54,300
In my opinion of this is that, you know, money comes back to the general fund.

675
00:49:55,240 --> 00:50:00,040
Come January in your next budget cycle, you know, the Exxon Digital evidence contract

676
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:02,640
that you're looking to use the $30,000 for.

677
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:04,940
I have no problem supporting that next year.

678
00:50:05,580 --> 00:50:12,060
And the $3,000, if this is necessary within there, I'm sure you can find $3,000 in your budget

679
00:50:12,060 --> 00:50:13,160
for postage and delivery.

680
00:50:13,420 --> 00:50:17,300
So in my opinion, you know, I think the money should come back to the general fund in

681
00:50:17,300 --> 00:50:25,120
In regards to the two other items, I think either A, it's on the prosecutor trying to find out within his own budget or wait till next year.

682
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:26,500
So, thank you, Chair.

683
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:29,460
Any other commissioners want to comment on this?

684
00:50:30,940 --> 00:50:34,440
Okay, commissioners, you're voting on item P1 and P1 only.

685
00:50:34,900 --> 00:50:37,540
We have a motion and support, please vote.

686
00:50:46,700 --> 00:50:48,060
Motion passes 12-0.

687
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:49,520
Thank you.

688
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:53,520
We're going to go to item 9,

689
00:50:56,230 --> 00:51:03,730
we're going to take A and B. These are items postponed from the August full board meeting.

690
00:51:04,250 --> 00:51:12,930
Item 8 was a request for outside counsel for Zartin Associates, representation of prosecuting attorney, not to exceed $50,000.

691
00:51:13,630 --> 00:51:25,770
Item B was a request for outside counsel for Zaret and associates, representation of prosecuting attorney, not to exceed $10,000.

692
00:51:26,230 --> 00:51:28,790
I need a motion to recommend this to full board.

693
00:51:29,270 --> 00:51:31,290
Motion to recommend a full board.

694
00:51:31,810 --> 00:51:33,790
It can be support.

695
00:51:34,390 --> 00:51:38,170
I have a motion by Commissioner Goyke, supported by Commissioner Kraft.

696
00:51:38,710 --> 00:51:43,090
You may speak to these, or if you would like Mr. Boundo, go ahead.

697
00:51:43,310 --> 00:51:48,510
Well, I just want to say with the committee chair's permission, I'd like to invite Prosecutor Lucido,

698
00:51:49,150 --> 00:51:55,290
Chief of Trials, Sean Hangenfeld, and our grant writer David Fisher to discuss items 9A and B.

699
00:51:55,710 --> 00:51:56,070
That's fine.

700
00:51:56,410 --> 00:51:56,730
Thank you, sir.

701
00:51:58,970 --> 00:52:01,170
Mr. Prosecutor, nice to have you up.

702
00:52:02,530 --> 00:52:05,590
I want to thank the board for taking this up.

703
00:52:06,170 --> 00:52:08,710
I know that we've adjourned it at least two times,

704
00:52:08,710 --> 00:52:10,810
as possibly three times on this matter.

705
00:52:11,450 --> 00:52:16,490
Sean, Dave, before I get to it, first of all,

706
00:52:16,530 --> 00:52:19,090
I want to say happy Constitution Day.

707
00:52:20,190 --> 00:52:23,050
And with that, the Constitution has a balance of powers.

708
00:52:24,290 --> 00:52:26,090
This would be the legislative branch.

709
00:52:26,470 --> 00:52:28,450
The executive branch is sitting behind me.

710
00:52:29,710 --> 00:52:34,930
And we are independent bodies of this county.

711
00:52:35,790 --> 00:52:41,530
Each separate entity that we have stands alone because we are all countywide Alexa.

712
00:52:42,590 --> 00:52:47,250
So I want to make sure that that balance of power stays the way it should be.

713
00:52:47,950 --> 00:52:52,230
In this case here, we have asked for a host of grants.

714
00:52:52,410 --> 00:52:57,770
I'd like Mr. Fisher just to recap the grants that he has written and has tried to submit.

715
00:52:58,250 --> 00:53:03,290
Because I think it's necessary as to why we're here asking for money for starting a lawsuit.

716
00:53:03,830 --> 00:53:10,070
And it's farthest from me right now, to start lawsuits when things should have been done the right way from the beginning.

717
00:53:15,260 --> 00:53:17,860
Prosecutor Lassito is just asking to give you a bit of a history.

718
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:18,940
I'm sorry, you are.

719
00:53:19,240 --> 00:53:20,120
I'm David Fisher.

720
00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:21,880
Mr. Fisher.

721
00:53:22,540 --> 00:53:27,280
Yes, so the prosecutor Lassito is asking to give a little history of the grants and the certifications.

722
00:53:28,180 --> 00:53:35,760
Back in February 19th, there was a public safety and mental health initiative, $3 million grant with a million dollar match.

723
00:53:36,820 --> 00:53:42,400
Typically, when I see these, I get a synopsis, I take it to a chief of circuit court, chief

724
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:48,340
of district court, and other people in the office and say, does this grant look like

725
00:53:48,340 --> 00:53:49,780
something that would be interesting?

726
00:53:50,660 --> 00:53:55,300
In that case, I think the chief of district court said, you know, community corrections

727
00:53:55,300 --> 00:53:59,700
was talking about needing money, maybe there's something there for them.

728
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:06,240
In the end, community actions really didn't feel like they had the information together.

729
00:54:06,460 --> 00:54:11,520
So we never wrote a grant, but what it did bring to light is these certifications from the

730
00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:11,960
executive.

731
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:18,820
In the past, the DOJ would ask for various certifications, but they were typically lower level.

732
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:24,820
Now they're asking for the executive signature, and we became aware of them.

733
00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:32,760
March 25th, the grant comprehensive opioid stimulant in substance use was a $1.6 million

734
00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:34,500
no match grant three years.

735
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:37,620
Judge Linda Davis actually brought this to us.

736
00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:42,840
It was very similar to a grant that we had been awarded in the past with a face addiction

737
00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:45,300
now and Judge Linda Davis's organization.

738
00:54:46,240 --> 00:54:52,280
This time it came with a certification that was required by the executive.

739
00:54:53,220 --> 00:54:57,060
I had asked for some support, you know, can we get the sign?

740
00:54:57,520 --> 00:54:58,800
Nothing was really happening.

741
00:54:59,540 --> 00:55:03,280
So I asked Judge Linda Davis to talk to the executive directly and say,

742
00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:08,260
with the support her with this grant partnering with the prosecutor

743
00:55:08,260 --> 00:55:09,860
and she was told he would not.

744
00:55:12,140 --> 00:55:16,080
So soon after that, there was another grant that came out May 8th,

745
00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:19,340
Justice Reinvestment Initiative Strength and State and local operations

746
00:55:19,340 --> 00:55:22,180
operations to reduce crime and recidivism.

747
00:55:23,060 --> 00:55:25,880
This was a $4 million three year no match grant,

748
00:55:26,140 --> 00:55:29,120
but it looked like it could fit with the FAN program.

749
00:55:29,500 --> 00:55:32,640
So we were basically going to look to resubmit

750
00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:36,640
a larger grant with the same basic program.

751
00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:40,020
Having known that we were rejected in the past

752
00:55:40,020 --> 00:55:44,420
and certifications, this is when I asked the BoC chair

753
00:55:44,420 --> 00:55:46,280
to help us, there were a lot of discussions

754
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:49,440
about how to try and resolve this.

755
00:55:50,140 --> 00:55:55,880
At one point there was a suggestion that perhaps Prosecutor Lissito actually had the authority to sign these.

756
00:55:56,340 --> 00:56:06,720
We didn't think so, but we were expecting an opinion from the Corporate Council that may have explained why this was the case.

757
00:56:07,340 --> 00:56:10,820
Never saw anything, nothing came of that as far as they know.

758
00:56:10,820 --> 00:56:20,620
So, again, we were trying to get the grant approved with the certifications, talking with

759
00:56:21,420 --> 00:56:27,440
Mr. McKinnon in Leonetti, the suggestion was a meeting with the executive, I think it

760
00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:33,760
was on the 8th of June, the grant deadline was the 10th of June, hoping to get a resolution

761
00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:55,920
and get the certification signed, but rather than having a discussion, we basically got the position of the executive who said he was not going to sign any certifications for Peter Lassito that he can go straight to the board for anything he wants, and he basically said when the board won their lawsuits, they won Peter Lassito.

762
00:56:55,920 --> 00:57:03,480
But in that conversation, though, there was a suggestion or an offer to delegate the authority to the chair.

763
00:57:05,420 --> 00:57:11,500
Chair Savititi was in the meeting, but I think for a variety of reasons was declined.

764
00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:19,040
And as a result, the deadline passed, that grant was not submitted.

765
00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:26,520
it. Then another grant on an early June came up, improved justice response to domestic

766
00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:33,740
violence, dating violence, sexual assault, and stalking. This was one that the chief

767
00:57:33,740 --> 00:57:38,920
of circuit courts felt very strongly about domestic violence is a significant issue in the

768
00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:45,780
county. Sexual assault is a terrible crime that occurs in this county. And we looked at

769
00:57:45,780 --> 00:57:53,060
a program where we would give a little over $400,000 each to Carehouse intering point, and then use

770
00:57:53,060 --> 00:57:59,060
the remaining funds to fund a full-time attorney to work with them on combating these crimes.

771
00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:05,240
Knowing that in the past, we were told, go directly to the board. If you need anything, we submitted

772
00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:10,840
the certifications to the board for approval, and you did vote to approve those certifications.

773
00:58:10,840 --> 00:58:12,080
and thank you very much.

774
00:58:12,620 --> 00:58:18,280
However, we did not get any signatures on those certifications.

775
00:58:18,980 --> 00:58:21,940
And so again, we were unable to submit certifications

776
00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:24,460
with our proposal on the deadline.

777
00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:29,220
So, that's kind of a history of the grants and the certifications.

778
00:58:29,940 --> 00:58:31,420
And they'll leave it to the prosecutors.

779
00:58:31,780 --> 00:58:31,920
You know.

780
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:33,040
Thank you, Dave.

781
00:58:34,660 --> 00:58:37,160
Briefly, I'd like to bring Sean to that hand-felt up.

782
00:58:37,240 --> 00:58:40,120
Chief of Travel Circuit Court regarding this grant specifically,

783
00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:46,900
because I will be speaking about the issue at hand regarding the dollars for the litigation.

784
00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:52,000
I'm curious to see how I appreciate, please, come forward, I want you to speak.

785
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:57,480
But I want to summarize, most of the board is pretty much aware of what is going on with this.

786
00:58:57,900 --> 00:59:01,720
If she could summarize, I gave you the little leeway for the other gentleman, the other guy.

787
00:59:02,040 --> 00:59:05,520
But if you could summarize where we're at instead of going through the details as he had done,

788
00:59:05,900 --> 00:59:07,220
we would certainly appreciate it, please.

789
00:59:07,220 --> 00:59:07,380
Please.

790
00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:08,540
So, thank you.

791
00:59:09,120 --> 00:59:09,440
Thank you.

792
00:59:10,280 --> 00:59:11,580
Good afternoon, commissioners.

793
00:59:11,660 --> 00:59:12,480
My name is Sean Hengebel.

794
00:59:12,620 --> 00:59:15,260
I'm the chief of trials at Circuit Court in the McComb County Prosecutor's Office.

795
00:59:15,820 --> 00:59:20,500
I believe most of you, if not all of you, were present July 23rd when I spoke on this grant

796
00:59:20,500 --> 00:59:20,780
before.

797
00:59:21,360 --> 00:59:27,660
I provided you a packet of information so that you were fully aware of all of the efforts

798
00:59:27,660 --> 00:59:35,280
that have been made to try to give as much information to yourselves as well as to Mr.

799
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:41,240
and Mr. McKinnon in an effort to gain the signatures needed for the certifications.

800
00:59:41,440 --> 00:59:45,180
I don't know that I need to go through all of that information and use my time that way.

801
00:59:46,260 --> 00:59:49,280
A lot of what Mr. Fisher has indicated is accurate.

802
00:59:49,700 --> 00:59:52,800
There was a great deal of efforts specifically as to this grant.

803
00:59:53,240 --> 00:59:55,060
I've been a prosecutor almost 23 years.

804
00:59:55,280 --> 00:59:58,800
I've worked in pretty much every position in the office.

805
00:59:59,160 --> 00:59:59,960
I've done a lot of work.

806
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:29,260
Quick domestic violence victims, and a lot of work with sexual assault victims, and I took this one to heart. And so I approached all of the chiefs of police throughout the county to get letters of support. We got letters from obviously turning point in carehouse, our hopeful partners in the MOU. I also contacted the interim city attorney for Warren because there is a program that the Warren Police Department has spearheaded has been piloted in May of 2025 called Operation Cycle Break.

807
01:00:29,260 --> 01:00:36,560
And just briefly, it's an attempt to address and respond to domestic violence cases sooner,

808
01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:42,800
so that there is a faster response in resources for our victims, and also for the offenders,

809
01:00:43,160 --> 01:00:44,920
as far as getting them resources as well.

810
01:00:45,860 --> 01:00:51,520
This was potentially a $1.5 million grant had we been awarded it, because we did not have

811
01:00:51,520 --> 01:00:52,160
certifications.

812
01:00:52,160 --> 01:00:55,540
We were not even in a position to be able to submit the grant.

813
01:00:55,540 --> 01:01:09,560
And it's a tragedy and both domestic violence and sexual assault in this county as I said on July 23rd when I spoke to you before I believe is an epidemic and it's only continuing to increase and only continuing to be a problem.

814
01:01:11,080 --> 01:01:11,980
Thank you.

815
01:01:11,980 --> 01:01:13,560
Thank you.

816
01:01:13,560 --> 01:01:17,340
Okay, so now you've got a backdrop of what's been going on.

817
01:01:17,480 --> 01:01:22,340
That's approximately almost $8 million worth of money.

818
01:01:23,020 --> 01:01:29,900
I can assure you that Wayne County operates in their prosecutor's office by a tremendous amount of money through grants.

819
01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:35,840
I have talked to their grant writer over there as well as their office and that's the same with Oakland County.

820
01:01:36,760 --> 01:01:42,380
I don't know in the past except for what I came into which was there was grants for auto theft

821
01:01:42,380 --> 01:01:47,220
that have been with the county for many, many years as well as cooperative reimbursement

822
01:01:47,220 --> 01:01:52,640
which is the child support grant that we've had to collect the money for the state.

823
01:01:55,060 --> 01:02:00,460
But furthermore, there's been grants along the line with drug unit that has gone by-by

824
01:02:00,460 --> 01:02:03,920
because, you know, it just has gone away.

825
01:02:04,840 --> 01:02:09,260
When you have these opportunities, I thought it was best and I think you said it best, Chair

826
01:02:09,260 --> 01:02:09,860
Romano.

827
01:02:09,860 --> 01:02:15,360
You know, when you said Mr. Fisher has been working for three years without any pay to do these grants.

828
01:02:15,860 --> 01:02:17,580
He just asked for some gas money.

829
01:02:18,940 --> 01:02:25,500
What is accomplishes Mint has been tremendous for this office and this county.

830
01:02:26,520 --> 01:02:31,060
And I repeat, I appreciate his good works and his diligence.

831
01:02:32,180 --> 01:02:36,420
The fact that a certification is there, the fact that that's not the contract,

832
01:02:36,420 --> 01:02:45,000
It certifies that the person that has the authority and that would be the executive branch whose charge with that duty has to perform.

833
01:02:46,060 --> 01:03:03,000
And if you recall the first lawsuit that happened here was it was individuals that the board had granted in the budgeting process and what happened we went back to the court as a result of failure to veto and or do anything other than perform.

834
01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:05,620
and we had to get a court order to have it performed.

835
01:03:06,880 --> 01:03:08,320
This is the same thing.

836
01:03:08,840 --> 01:03:11,900
There has been no veto after this board took its action

837
01:03:12,720 --> 01:03:15,760
and it was brought to the executive, the time ran

838
01:03:16,900 --> 01:03:23,060
and the charter, as well as the power that is vested in,

839
01:03:23,100 --> 01:03:26,620
you who votes, said to perform.

840
01:03:27,360 --> 01:03:29,240
And it was failed at that point.

841
01:03:29,240 --> 01:03:37,880
If you do your job and he fails to act, I'm the third party beneficiary of those non-actions.

842
01:03:39,780 --> 01:03:42,260
It's something that needs to be done and corrected.

843
01:03:43,080 --> 01:03:50,020
Even if the veto is there, he has to give his reasons why he doesn't believe this is necessary.

844
01:03:51,260 --> 01:03:58,840
He did no veto in the last one on the grant, and as a result, it was supposed to be

845
01:03:58,840 --> 01:04:05,760
performed, signed and delivered. In regards to his veto that he did on another

846
01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:12,100
case, you overrode the veto and he failed to perform, so we went ahead and sued.

847
01:04:13,300 --> 01:04:18,880
I don't know what other options or alternatives are given to any of you when he fails

848
01:04:18,880 --> 01:04:27,200
to do his job, but he fails to work. As a result, I gave you a four-page document

849
01:04:27,200 --> 01:04:29,320
that you should have all in front of you.

850
01:04:32,560 --> 01:04:33,660
Actually, it's two pages.

851
01:04:33,940 --> 01:04:36,320
It's September 15th, 2026.

852
01:04:36,660 --> 01:04:38,100
It completely outlines it.

853
01:04:38,140 --> 01:04:39,940
I'm not going to be a legal point.

854
01:04:41,140 --> 01:04:43,440
It outlines the claims that I'm making

855
01:04:43,440 --> 01:04:45,200
for purposes of litigation.

856
01:04:47,430 --> 01:04:49,270
Has everyone received that,

857
01:04:49,470 --> 01:04:51,070
so that I don't have to go through that?

858
01:04:52,270 --> 01:04:55,510
After you review that, it's pretty obvious that

859
01:04:56,250 --> 01:04:59,670
if I do nothing, they suffer,

860
01:04:59,670 --> 01:05:01,770
the victims of this county's suffer.

861
01:05:03,370 --> 01:05:11,350
That resource was good enough to take care house as well as turning point so that they

862
01:05:11,350 --> 01:05:14,250
don't have to worry about where they're getting their next bucket from.

863
01:05:15,070 --> 01:05:16,890
And I hope it's not out of general fun.

864
01:05:17,790 --> 01:05:20,650
Can you summarize for us, Mr. Lestino, please?

865
01:05:21,330 --> 01:05:22,310
Would you summarize for us?

866
01:05:22,310 --> 01:05:23,230
I'm trying.

867
01:05:24,090 --> 01:05:32,990
As a result, what I'm asking for is, in bulk of agenda items, 9A and B, but the board

868
01:05:32,990 --> 01:05:38,790
providing the resources necessary for me to get a court order for performance here.

869
01:05:40,070 --> 01:05:45,090
And this is not just past performance, but the future, we can't have this continue.

870
01:05:46,730 --> 01:05:49,830
Lastly, I took up another, I

871
01:05:52,170 --> 01:05:54,470
need some relief at this point.

872
01:05:54,650 --> 01:05:58,790
Otherwise, what good is a grant writer and what good is trying to save the taxpayers' money.

873
01:05:59,490 --> 01:05:59,830
Thank you.

874
01:06:02,200 --> 01:06:03,400
Thank you, Mr. LeCito.

875
01:06:04,060 --> 01:06:04,420
Prosecutor.

876
01:06:05,080 --> 01:06:06,360
So, my motion on the floor?

877
01:06:09,940 --> 01:06:10,420
Yes.

878
01:06:10,940 --> 01:06:13,080
That's all it is as a motion to refer it to full board.

879
01:06:13,380 --> 01:06:13,760
Thank you.

880
01:06:15,100 --> 01:06:16,040
I see no speakers.

881
01:06:16,620 --> 01:06:17,260
Please vote.

882
01:06:21,960 --> 01:06:22,640
Chair Flemme.

883
01:06:23,620 --> 01:06:24,100
Yes.

884
01:06:24,500 --> 01:06:24,880
Chair.

885
01:06:25,300 --> 01:06:26,880
I know the executive is here.

886
01:06:28,900 --> 01:06:32,740
I think it's in our best interest for him to give a statement as well in regards to the item.

887
01:06:33,220 --> 01:06:35,920
I had a public participation, but he may speak now if he wishes.

888
01:06:37,020 --> 01:06:39,600
You're the chair of the committee, so I'm just asking.

889
01:06:39,700 --> 01:06:40,560
No, no, absolutely.

890
01:06:41,780 --> 01:06:45,640
Mr. Ackel, if you would like to respond.

891
01:06:45,900 --> 01:06:46,440
That's interesting.

892
01:06:46,620 --> 01:06:50,840
The challenge is I think that we face Mark Jackson, McComb County executive 17932,

893
01:06:52,340 --> 01:07:01,900
You know, it's interesting, I mean, there is no question about it, there's a conflict, there's a challenge, but the reality is, this is that conflict or challenge with any other countywide elected official.

894
01:07:01,900 --> 01:07:10,540
It just happens to be the conflict between myself and the prosecutor and many of you suffer the consequences of having listened to this dialogue and the conversations on a daily basis.

895
01:07:11,080 --> 01:07:17,160
I don't come to you with the problems or concerns or issues. I attempt to try to figure out how do we resolve this by having some type of open communications.

896
01:07:17,860 --> 01:07:22,780
grants. Many of those that were just approved here today have never seen my desk. I've never

897
01:07:22,780 --> 01:07:27,380
had to deal with a grant if somebody applied for it. They've come through and they've come to you

898
01:07:27,380 --> 01:07:32,360
and we've passed them along for a year approval. I don't get involved in that process. For some

899
01:07:32,360 --> 01:07:36,420
reason, there are now grants that have come across my desk whether requiring me to sign off on some

900
01:07:36,420 --> 01:07:41,880
obscure commitment on behalf of whatever's happening at the federal government level. I'm very curious

901
01:07:41,880 --> 01:07:46,520
about that. And as a county executive, or my responsibility, my signature is not

902
01:07:46,520 --> 01:07:50,340
perfunctory, it's not something that's ministerial, I take that very seriously.

903
01:07:50,800 --> 01:07:54,920
Because there are sometimes potential for a perjury, there are opportunities for

904
01:07:54,920 --> 01:07:59,980
litigation or even criminal action with that signature. So I don't take that lightly,

905
01:08:00,320 --> 01:08:03,780
but what I do ask and requires an opportunity, like many of you here today,

906
01:08:04,260 --> 01:08:07,940
you want information. Before you make a decision, before you decide whether you're going to vote,

907
01:08:07,940 --> 01:08:12,480
So yes or no, you need information, and you request that information, and you want to

908
01:08:12,480 --> 01:08:16,120
hear both sides of an issue, and you may want to dig into an issue.

909
01:08:16,440 --> 01:08:20,180
Sometimes it's not pleasant, the conversation or questions you might want to ask.

910
01:08:20,720 --> 01:08:23,240
And that is what I've asked this prosecutor many a time.

911
01:08:23,700 --> 01:08:25,300
I reached out to have conversation.

912
01:08:25,600 --> 01:08:29,500
You didn't see the letter that followed the meeting that we had, because I didn't want

913
01:08:29,500 --> 01:08:30,960
to involve you in that conversation.

914
01:08:31,360 --> 01:08:33,300
It didn't need to go your in your direction.

915
01:08:33,820 --> 01:08:37,800
It should have been a conversation I had with the prosecutor, along with maybe the chair

916
01:08:37,800 --> 01:08:42,300
of the Public Safety Commission, maybe the Chair of the Board, the Vice Chair, whoever

917
01:08:42,300 --> 01:08:46,720
the board would choose to have at that meeting, I offered an opportunity to have those conversations.

918
01:08:47,240 --> 01:08:48,920
There's no question these grants have validity.

919
01:08:49,300 --> 01:08:53,540
There's opportunities there for funding for Carehouse, Turning Point, Fan, I don't disagree.

920
01:08:54,040 --> 01:08:58,280
But I'm not going to sign something blindly without asking questions and understanding exactly

921
01:08:58,280 --> 01:09:02,800
what it is that the federal government is looking for me to sign off on when that wasn't something

922
01:09:02,800 --> 01:09:03,980
that's ever happened before.

923
01:09:04,800 --> 01:09:09,280
And if that's something this board would rather handle themselves, I'll step out of the way.

924
01:09:09,720 --> 01:09:11,380
I've got absolutely no problem doing that.

925
01:09:11,520 --> 01:09:16,100
If you don't want me asking these questions of the prosecutor, before I sign off on something

926
01:09:16,100 --> 01:09:21,360
to hand to you, or for before he can apply for the particular grant, if you don't want me to

927
01:09:21,360 --> 01:09:26,560
do that, you want me to just sign off blindly, well then I'll hand that over to the board and

928
01:09:26,560 --> 01:09:27,300
I've offered that up.

929
01:09:27,420 --> 01:09:30,480
I've offered that up a several times in the board chair I've given him the opportunity.

930
01:09:30,840 --> 01:09:33,440
And 317 of the charter gives me the ability to do that.

931
01:09:33,440 --> 01:09:38,580
It's to the executive or a designee and I can do that and I will do that. I have no problem

932
01:09:38,580 --> 01:09:42,500
in ways so we don't need litigation. What we need is either to have an opportunity to have an

933
01:09:42,500 --> 01:09:47,140
open dialogue and open conversation about these particular grants that we're applying for with

934
01:09:47,140 --> 01:09:50,620
those that are going to be participants, whether it's Carehouse, whether it's Turning Point,

935
01:09:51,000 --> 01:09:55,200
or if it's going to be a fan, where their members are actually sitting in, we're talking about

936
01:09:55,200 --> 01:09:57,780
the grant, what are the details of this grant, what is everybody going to get out of it,

937
01:09:58,080 --> 01:10:01,560
and what are the specifics behind this signature that I have to have

938
01:10:01,560 --> 01:10:07,960
That require me to sign this, but I would also like the board to be there during those dialogues and I would offer it up

939
01:10:07,960 --> 01:10:14,840
To even have the public or the media there so they can hear exactly what's happening instead of finger pointing and somebody going and calling and saying

940
01:10:14,840 --> 01:10:21,760
This is what he's saying. This is what she's saying. I would much rather have an open dialogue and an opportunity much like we're having here today

941
01:10:22,260 --> 01:10:26,840
About me signing off on a grant, which I've never had to worry about or deal with in the past

942
01:10:26,840 --> 01:10:33,580
So again, I offer this to you, rather than getting into litigation, I think maybe we should

943
01:10:33,580 --> 01:10:35,460
offer an opportunity to have that conversation.

944
01:10:35,900 --> 01:10:39,500
To open up the discussions in the future, if there's going to be a required signature

945
01:10:39,500 --> 01:10:43,880
on behalf of the executive, where members of the board can attend, the media can attend.

946
01:10:44,340 --> 01:10:46,160
I mean, let's be transparent about this.

947
01:10:46,540 --> 01:10:51,000
If those that are going to be participants or recipients of that grant award, be present

948
01:10:51,000 --> 01:10:51,540
as well.

949
01:10:52,120 --> 01:11:00,660
Otherwise if you would rather that I just hand it off to the board to go ahead and do the signature of that without my involvement, I can do that too.

950
01:11:01,120 --> 01:11:12,060
So it's a very simple answer. I'm not here to make it a complex issue. I'm trying to figure out how do we resolve this in a way that doesn't require more taxpayer money going after litigation when it really isn't necessary.

951
01:11:12,060 --> 01:11:27,080
So I appreciate the opportunity to have this conversation and at least allow you the opportunity to think about that as you vet this concern as to whether or not we need to allow the prosecutor to sue the executive for his signature on something he's a whole heck of a lot more information on.

952
01:11:27,620 --> 01:11:28,780
So thank you once again.

953
01:11:30,040 --> 01:11:31,220
Thank you Mr. Hackle.

954
01:11:32,560 --> 01:11:34,080
You want to comment on that Mr. 17?

955
01:11:35,120 --> 01:11:35,960
You don't have to.

956
01:11:42,820 --> 01:11:58,140
I was going to acknowledge that we did not talk about B, but I just wanted to also address that as a private resident or anyone that applies for a foyer, if that gets denied, that's on us to sue.

957
01:11:58,140 --> 01:12:03,660
I just don't think that the county should be doing or that we should be paying for that in just my opinion

958
01:12:03,660 --> 01:12:04,820
That's the process that every

959
01:12:05,540 --> 01:12:11,100
Resident has to abide by and so I would prefer if we voted on these separately, but moving on the full board

960
01:12:11,100 --> 01:12:14,720
We can move in both full board. It doesn't matter to me. I just when we get to full board

961
01:12:14,720 --> 01:12:16,200
I believe we need to vote on these separately

962
01:12:16,860 --> 01:12:22,480
My position on the grants. I think are abundantly clear after our prior meetings and all of those things

963
01:12:23,520 --> 01:12:26,840
But I think there's greater discussion for a for a later date, but

964
01:12:28,140 --> 01:12:29,060
Thank you, Commissioner.

965
01:12:29,900 --> 01:12:33,320
You know, it definitely warrants more dialogue.

966
01:12:33,540 --> 01:12:36,100
There's no question about it on both parties end.

967
01:12:36,560 --> 01:12:41,340
But I want to say I want to appreciate our executive coming to the commissioners here.

968
01:12:41,540 --> 01:12:44,000
I appreciate our prosecutor coming to the commissioner here.

969
01:12:44,820 --> 01:12:48,520
Right now, I see no other speakers and we have a motion to move this the full board.

970
01:12:49,320 --> 01:12:50,380
Is it your going to speak?

971
01:12:50,940 --> 01:12:51,380
You're mumbling.

972
01:12:51,940 --> 01:12:52,920
Is it your going to speak?

973
01:12:53,840 --> 01:12:54,540
No, it's not.

974
01:12:54,900 --> 01:12:56,240
You'll answer Mr. Sabatini.

975
01:12:56,240 --> 01:12:57,760
I'll just say a few things.

976
01:12:58,960 --> 01:13:02,280
I just concur with Commissioner Romano.

977
01:13:02,460 --> 01:13:04,120
Thank you to the executive, thank you to the prosecutor.

978
01:13:04,860 --> 01:13:07,120
You know, this is an issue that we're trying to resolve.

979
01:13:07,960 --> 01:13:09,760
I think you both said it very, very well.

980
01:13:09,940 --> 01:13:11,580
I think we can work it out, right?

981
01:13:11,780 --> 01:13:12,540
But that takes time.

982
01:13:13,900 --> 01:13:15,400
I'm willing to be part of those meetings.

983
01:13:16,300 --> 01:13:18,920
If there are some other commissioners there would like to be part of those meetings.

984
01:13:19,800 --> 01:13:20,160
Yeah.

985
01:13:20,380 --> 01:13:20,740
You're welcome.

986
01:13:21,400 --> 01:13:22,060
All right.

987
01:13:23,340 --> 01:13:24,280
Let's do it.

988
01:13:25,020 --> 01:13:42,520
But that being said, you know, for these items, you know, this is going to require a little bit of our council to get involved and I think it's fair for us today, in my opinion, I'm going to move these to full board just so that I can ask some questions based on what's happened today.

989
01:13:43,660 --> 01:13:49,520
That's not decided with one or the other, it's just I think a fair path for this board to have some conversation with this council.

990
01:13:51,020 --> 01:14:00,560
You know, the full board is next Thursday, we've got some time, you know, we'll reach out to both the prosecutor and the executive, try and get something here on our schedule.

991
01:14:01,120 --> 01:14:05,840
I'll talk to some commissioners if we can get some commissioners to participate.

992
01:14:06,700 --> 01:14:12,140
It will take you from there, but that being said, I think this was a good meeting.

993
01:14:12,580 --> 01:14:17,560
I thought we heard both sides, and I appreciate both party for being here today.

994
01:14:17,560 --> 01:14:19,420
Okay, so that's it here.

995
01:14:20,020 --> 01:14:21,880
Again, thanks both parties, we do appreciate it.

996
01:14:22,600 --> 01:14:23,460
Commissioner, please vote.

997
01:14:31,690 --> 01:14:33,050
Motion passes 12-0.

998
01:14:33,590 --> 01:14:35,050
Thank you, thank you again for coming.

999
01:14:35,250 --> 01:14:36,150
We appreciate it.

1000
01:14:37,370 --> 01:14:39,850
Well, we are going to go to a public participation.

1001
01:14:40,490 --> 01:14:43,130
This is three minutes maximum first speaker.

1002
01:14:43,290 --> 01:14:45,430
This opportunity for public participation

1003
01:14:46,030 --> 01:14:47,330
is for those who wish to speak

1004
01:14:47,330 --> 01:14:49,450
for a maximum of three minutes and any issue.

1005
01:14:50,230 --> 01:14:52,150
Anybody in the public would like to speak.

1006
01:14:55,840 --> 01:14:57,340
No, if those are just coming up to the podium.

1007
01:14:57,340 --> 01:14:59,820
I see nobody coming up to public purchase

1008
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:06,260
I will close that. I will go to commissioner's comments. Anybody commissioner?

1009
01:15:06,740 --> 01:15:28,660
Commissioner Wallace. Thank you. I just wanted to thank staff for helping me prepare for a presentation. I did yesterday in Clinton Township, or nope, it was in Mount Clemens, for a Clinton Township organization that came to Mount Clemens to get a better understanding of the veterans' village that's going to be on the ballot.

1010
01:15:28,660 --> 01:15:32,720
But they did have someone there to speak on the transportation.

1011
01:15:33,420 --> 01:15:37,000
Millie just well, but it was funny that he said, well, you have a commissioner here.

1012
01:15:37,140 --> 01:15:42,020
So maybe she can speak and luckily staff did prepare me for both.

1013
01:15:42,040 --> 01:15:43,920
So I just wanted to thank the staff.

1014
01:15:43,920 --> 01:15:45,800
They're always extremely helpful.

1015
01:15:46,440 --> 01:15:47,000
Thanks, Chair.

1016
01:15:47,280 --> 01:15:47,780
Thank you, Commissioner.

1017
01:15:48,300 --> 01:15:49,480
Any other commissioners?

1018
01:15:49,800 --> 01:15:51,140
Yes, I'd like to say so.

1019
01:15:51,180 --> 01:15:51,760
Commissioner's in there.

1020
01:15:51,780 --> 01:15:52,140
Can't get in.

1021
01:15:52,980 --> 01:15:53,660
Thank you.

1022
01:15:54,060 --> 01:15:58,020
Mr. Chair, my name is Tom Mitchell.

1023
01:15:58,020 --> 01:16:05,080
very nice man. They give me some information about flock cameras and everybody here

1024
01:16:05,080 --> 01:16:10,320
may be looking at those. There's a lot of information about it but I told him I

1025
01:16:10,320 --> 01:16:14,440
would bring something up because he was he had a man named John.

1026
01:16:26,250 --> 01:16:26,850
I've got the

1027
01:16:31,180 --> 01:16:32,760
No, it's not John Smith.

1028
01:16:33,440 --> 01:16:33,800
That's good.

1029
01:16:34,220 --> 01:16:34,500
I'm sorry.

1030
01:16:35,480 --> 01:16:44,700
John Panfield has written a patent for flag cameras and we know our police agencies work

1031
01:16:44,700 --> 01:16:48,080
hard to keep us safe and I appreciate everything with that.

1032
01:16:49,180 --> 01:16:58,580
But according to a lot of information from Florida and other Texas and this area here from

1033
01:16:58,580 --> 01:17:06,640
this patent. It's in the patent. There's nothing in the patent about safety in this

1034
01:17:06,640 --> 01:17:15,400
fly camera patent. And there are all kinds of things in there about recognizing our

1035
01:17:15,400 --> 01:17:22,480
bodies and very particular things and everything's connecting with everything else.

1036
01:17:22,760 --> 01:17:28,140
So it's really not safe at all in my estimation. So I told him I would bring this

1037
01:17:28,140 --> 01:17:31,360
that's up and thank you very much. Thank you Mr. Chair.

1038
01:17:31,920 --> 01:17:32,860
Any other commissioners?

1039
01:17:33,320 --> 01:17:33,860
Commissioner, all.

1040
01:17:34,940 --> 01:17:38,960
But I appreciate bringing you up, but there's any written

1041
01:17:38,960 --> 01:17:42,100
material you'd like to have distributed. I've got to

1042
01:17:42,100 --> 01:17:45,500
appreciate that as well, but black cameras is a whole,

1043
01:17:45,820 --> 01:17:50,080
is a local municipal issue, it's not a county issue whatsoever.

1044
01:17:51,220 --> 01:17:54,380
So I, that's incorrect.

1045
01:17:55,620 --> 01:17:56,760
How is it a county issue?

1046
01:17:56,760 --> 01:18:00,100
Sure. One fact, let's don't get lost here.

1047
01:18:00,340 --> 01:18:08,200
Yeah. Commissioner, uh, I'll go by saying a presentation coming here on

1048
01:18:08,200 --> 01:18:15,200
black cameras or anything like that. I would be opposed to Mr. Kraft can explain to

1049
01:18:15,200 --> 01:18:20,840
me how it's a county. Okay. Any other commissioners? Can I respond to that?

1050
01:18:21,220 --> 01:18:24,860
Nope. Any other commissioners? Maybe a hug later.

1051
01:18:26,820 --> 01:18:30,080
I do have a free on the speech, though, right?

1052
01:18:30,320 --> 01:18:30,780
Please vote.

1053
01:18:31,000 --> 01:18:31,760
Thank you very much.

1054
01:18:38,920 --> 01:18:40,400
Motion passes 12-0.