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let so call the meeting to order any

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agenda looks like nobody's here for

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public comment sorry should have give me

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a chance to answer assuming no changes

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to the agenda and no public comments uh

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is there a motion on the minutes from

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21st don't move second second any

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additions

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changes no all in

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favor just also thanks for um for

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changing the meeting schedule on short

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notice I have something that I thought

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was going to be scheduled for next

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Thursday that is scheduled for next

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Thursday so I wouldn't been able to be

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here hoping to be here for this

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discussion um well n word and nobody's

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on zo I mean we have pretty good

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attendance too so y it's great um so

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I'll turn it over to you guys for

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staff great uh so I wanted to bring us

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through a couple of things um starting

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with the wesfield community Wastewater

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project um under engineering design and

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permitting um the topographic surveying

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in its final stages it's probably

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actually completed by this point it was being finished beginning of this

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week um uh and mapping of wetlands rare

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plants and cultural resources fieldwork

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has concluded uh and the pump station

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um the the the test for the msite uh

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should be completed by now as well um

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that's happening either yesterday or

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today or tomorrow so um the the results

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of all that work uh will feed into the

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final design process uh and and provide

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a lot of guidance so a lot of the work

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is happening right now on the different

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sizing um working with property owners

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that would host P pump stations so on

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and so forth um so things are are

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humming along on the funding side of

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that project um one of the primary

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sources of funding is USDA Rural

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Development um we uh originally uh the

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project implemented an application in

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April 2024 um but was informed that they

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need this additional environment Al

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assessment uh work to be um a part of it

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and actually didn't find out until

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August September that that that was

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required so that was submitted on

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November 15th there's a little bit of

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back and forth uh and it was actually

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finalized the beginning of this week um

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and there's a notice in today's paper

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which is a requirement of the funding um

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a notice of the EA submission and you

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can contact um a guy by the name of Alex

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sub for USDA if you have more questions

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or you can ask me um uh but but per the the announcement so that'll run

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in the next couple editions of the paper

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um and that was the last thing that

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needed to be done for for that project

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uh application so we'd anticipate a

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response um uh from USDA roal

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development and potentially an offer uh

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for funding uh in January which is great

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what do you mean by an offer uh the the

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way USDA Ro development provides these

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sort of it's a funding package

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essentially U which is a mixture of

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Grant and okay so you don't ask for a

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specific number they they throw a number

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at you and yeah so so we sent them back

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for the April

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application all sorts of a tremendous

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amount of information and said this is

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what we're looking at doing and this is

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what we see as our funding and it goes

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through their underwriting and they are

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the ones who yeah how much haing can you

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do uh with the underwriters zero um but

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my uh after my conversation with the

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USDA Ral development folks um once you

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have the initial offer and and your

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projects moving forward if you need

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additional funding that's when that

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happens so essentially accept what they

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offer at at you at first uh work through

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the project and as there's additional

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needs there are opportunities for

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additional

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funding rural development over the years

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has been really clear that that a lot of

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Vermont towns or a lot of Vermont leaves

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a lot of money on the table

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so yeah yeah there there has been

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opportunity for funding

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it's as I said we applied in April and

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now it's December um uh there's a reason

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why there's money been left on the table

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because it's it's challenging uh to to

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access uh and uh but I feel really good

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about where we are and I've been playing

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a pretty strong role in uh in in guiding

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uh in guiding the process so feel good

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about it um another funding source for

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that project is the Vermont community

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development program which is HUD money

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um and I had a meeting with them

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initially uh in October and then a

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followup meeting in November and um

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looking uh sort of positioning the

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project who will apply for a

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pre-application for that program in

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January sort of in the $500,000 to

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million dollar range for for that

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funding in each of their rounds um and

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then really exciting news of the project

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is the wtvi community Wastewater

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projects application to the central

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Vermont Economic Development

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corporations uh and centralmont economic

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Central Vermont Regional planning

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commissions Regional project priority

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list so CVC and cvpc um uh are um

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receive projects um each region does um

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uh to be on a list of projects of

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regional significance or Regional

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project priorities uh and our project we

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applied last year for the weight weight

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field waste community that was not

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funded or not identified um or selected

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and this year we were selected and we

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were selected as is the number two the

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project was selected as the number two

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project in the region the number one

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project is a new um uh secondary

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institution um focusing on engineering

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at in m at M College I can't remember

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the name of it right now ever green or a

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name similar to that um but our but the

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weight field project was identified as

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number two so why do you want to be on

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that list um mostly exposure uh it it it speaks to the importance of a project

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when state and federal um uh folks are

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looking at funding uh it means a lot to

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be on that list so it doesn't come with

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specific funding but it provides access

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to funding uh and and recognition for

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the project so um and the great thing is

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that the college that was rate ranked

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number one isn't looking for funding

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they're just looking for recognition

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we're looking for funding and we're

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number two so that's so we're the number

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one one looking for funding um so I

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anticipate um there was an article or a little piece in WCAX this week about

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that college and the reason why they did

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that piece was because of this ranking

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and so I anticipate opportunities um for

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delegations and other folks coming to

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wesfield to learn about the project so

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that one of my uh one of our objectives

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in the month of January is updating our

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Communications work on the project um we

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have a really great Foundation of

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communications and and explanation of

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the project but but it's mostly it was built for um for specifically the

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local audience for the bond vote and so

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we we're going to be tweaking that for

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this sort of broader audience so anyway

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um a lot happening specifically in the

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month of January from a vcbp application

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I anticipate the USDA Ral development

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work uh in the uh project priority list

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stuff um and some other Grant funds uh

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grant opportunities I'm seeing on the

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horizon next thing I want to mention um

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speaking of Pilar in the college area

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the wusi flood resilience Roundtable

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that happened up there um on the 4th uh

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of of December I participated it was a

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watershed wide discussion about 80 to 90

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folks were there Paul Costello um uh was

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the moderator it was a really great

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conversation um in a in a broad um with

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a broad constituents really focusing on

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Municipal folks um explaining and

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exploring sort of challenges and

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opportunities related to resilience um

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it was a it was a really uh positive um

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uh event and a lot of interest in

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collaborating

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across across borders um and and trying

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to do this work collectively so um where

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it goes we'll see but that was sort of a

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kickoff

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event um handful of things happening on

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the transportation front the Vermont 100

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Act of Transportation Corridor scoping

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study um the local concerns meeting

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happened in the middle of November um

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and moving forward with uh sort of the

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next steps of that project uh the Shish

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Access Road shared use path um segment

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one um uh that do you want to explain

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where it is in segment one yeah so

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segment one um we had our uh conceptual

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plan review the day after the local

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concerns meeting for the Vermont 100 uh

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active Transportation corridor meeting

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we had a couple members of the public

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there to discuss the plans um and

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shortly thereafter the conceptual plans

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were submitted to vtrans for uh

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essentially a preliminary review by

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vtrans and their deadline to have

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feedback and comments on the conceptual

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plans is December 31st at which point I

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imagine well take their feedback and

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incorporate it and modify the conceptual

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plans um and then the long-term view of

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that project is uh so right now

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construction is scheduled for 2027 which

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is a long longer process than we

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anticipated but it's because there's

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certain um steps that need to happen in

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order they can't be happening

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concurrently and that's the Neer review

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and the right of way Acquisitions which

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could both take anywhere between six

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months on the short term to a year on

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the longer term um but we are we

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received um um the green light from the

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town of Warren to proceed with the

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funding application for uh Vermont our

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transportation alter the trans

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Transportation Alternatives grant

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program um so hopefully uh by getting

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that Grant in per segment two funding

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which is up to $600,000 per project we

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can get some of these uh segments going

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on at the same time to realize some

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hopefully cost and Time Savings by

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getting them going uh concurrently so

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that's kind of where we with that I've

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been drafting the uh narrative for the

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grant starting this Monday and also did

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the mapping for that application so it's

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we're trying to get it to a pretty good

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spot by the end of the day tomorrow just

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so we're not having to hustle around

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Christmas time um so coming along nicely

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for Segment two and December 31st right

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that's the deadline yeah

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nothing like New Year's Eve to have a

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grand deadline

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exactly can't imagine anyone was going

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to look at them on the first but anyway

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um uh I want to highlight the 2025

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downtown Transportation fund Grant uh

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program February 17th the deadline uh

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this is for um supporting safe

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multimodal um transportation

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opportunities within Village centers and

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downtowns um $200,000 or so uh is the

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maximum availability of Grants the 20%

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match um Warren and wesfield had

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previously been recipients of of of that

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grant program uh in

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2022

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uh uh after the last meeting Dan reached

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out to me um about the possibility of

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being involved in a discussion with the

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Planning Commission about the Town

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garage site um and I've done some we

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tried coordinating and we haven't quite

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nailed down the meeting that I'll be

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attending but I've done since last week

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a fair amount of research and reached

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out to a handful of folks and so I'm

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mostly looking forward to listening but

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you know I'm not going to come in

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telling um but but I'm doing my research

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uh and identifying a variety of

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opportunities and um and considerations

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and reaching reaching out to folks who

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know of communities that have done

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similar projects and specifically

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learning from their processes um and

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mostly just coming it from a place of

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like what's a process that that could

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work really well J is that conversation

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going to be specific to that to that

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project because we had talked at the

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executive committee about kind of

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dusting off the old housing study and

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looking at the broad range of issues and

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maybe letting the other planning

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commissions know that conversation going

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on that's a great Point thank you for

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the reminder um I'm not saying that if

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you have something that's more more

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urgent and more real yeah got definitely

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go for yeah I mean I so I'm I'm at the

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stage of I'm really focusing on the

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warrant opportunity I mean I looked at I

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think there was a uh

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Esa environmental sight assessment phase

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one 2008 to look at to the

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ability to look at if there were any

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dangerous issues in uh in 2008

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specifically for the for the opportunity

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of housing um so it's it's it's a long

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time coming in Warren um uh so um so I'm

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primarily focusing there but I'm my plan

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is to put together

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a pretty good document that could be

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used more broadly um specifically on

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that sort of development uh opportunity

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but but thank you for the reminder of

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ding off the the houseu yeah yeah to

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translate for Andy a little bit so we

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know the garage

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is has a long Runway I mean we need a

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bond vote and when you mentioned the

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bond vote website there's probably some

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learning Warren could do from from the

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communication strategy you waks field

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employ but the vision of putting housing

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on the Town garage site eventually is

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you know it's been since a 20-year-old

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Town sherette yeah as I'm sure Joshua

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knows so the holy gra the Holy Grail so

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the idea

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is um well are there steps I mean it's

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it it you know it's kind of you know

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it's one it's keep the idea that we'd

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like housing to go there right keep that

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as as an active concept because one

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could think oh well maybe we should sell

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the land and use those proceeds to help

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pay for the cost of the new garage right

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well ideally at least from the planning

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commission's perspective it would be

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well that's a great place for housing

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right in Warren Village and we don't

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really know anything about there's not a

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lot of understanding about what we

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should be doing in the meantime so

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that's sort of why we're hoping to

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connect with Joshua and get some

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understanding and realizing there's a

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long way to go on the garage but let's

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try to move you know keep moving forward

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on the housing idea Dan is the idea that

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the town will supply the land to a

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developer under the idea that the

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developer will build what we

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expect I think the I mean my idea was I really know nothing about the

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development process or and know very

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little about the grants that might be

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available and the the steps like like

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thinking longer term if we wanted to get

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housing on there and access funding

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sources correct what should we be doing

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you know are there designations we

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should be getting are

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there committees you know are there is

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there a Housing Coalition a or Housing

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Coalition we should be forming I mean

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what should we be doing really to make

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the case I think to get State funding to

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help us get something done or federal

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funding yeah we don't we don't know much

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about that and Joshua knows a lot about

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that yeah and if you don't mind me

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jumping in I mean right um so I so far

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I've chat with fot at um Veron Council

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roal development Veron has the

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conservation board and aenc of Commerce

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Community Development mostly just saying

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hey what are there examples of things

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that that that have worked for examples

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where they haven't um uh and what are

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the types of considerations that that

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are out there and uh and really I mean

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I'm interested in coming and listening

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to the Planning Commission um but but uh

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I think think the first question is what

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do we want uh like what are we

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interested in and then identifying what

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is a process that allows the the

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community to get there um there was an

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explor wesfield uh in the last year

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received a um a neighborhood Development

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Area designation uh which has made

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possible funding for the Wastewater

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project um I talked to the Planning

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Commission I want to say 14 years ago

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about having a neighborhood Development

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Area designation for Warrant

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specifically for uh for for for which

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can Aid in housing it it caps water

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Wastewater fees and a variety of other

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things and it's those but that

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designation program is Shifting and

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changing so I contacted the guy at the

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state being like hey can you help me

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understand how uh like like what what

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are the opportunities and it's that that

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kind of thing like what are the

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structural things uh and what are the

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process opportunities um my biggest

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thing I would say is

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um I think you're far away from having a

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conversation of EX exactly who does what

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and how it happens because you know if

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you work with a housing developer of one one type or another you might end up

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in One Direction or another and that

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that'll have implications on funding um

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so like down street as a partner but I

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wouldn't suggest talking to down street

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soon I would sort of wait on that and

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really really understand what what the

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interests are is it a moment so I I will

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say that we we had a what I consider is

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actually a very good housing development

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of Wheeler Brook um that no one was

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really happy

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with the way it turned out and who was

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allowed to be there and the the the

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financials of it um so I think that

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there's more options than just one of

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the big three or four um nonprofits in

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central Vermont that do this kind of

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work a th% and I think

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that some sort of public private

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partnership is probably the way to go

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with the town giving the land the sewer

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and the

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water and you

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know having certain stipulations on

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what's expected to be built there I

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think that is a very difficult site

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actually it's flat with a huge hill of

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sand behind it and the parking lot

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above I think that to build on it you're

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going to have to stabilize that entire

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Hillside and that could be very

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expensive and I will tell you a

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secret there's a better piece of land

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directly across the

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street for a smaller project

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um anyway it's townland and uh I don't

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know why it's never been really

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discussed but it's right there and the

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sewer is just down on um on Brook Road

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so the sewer coming up solves multiple

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problems

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um for sighting place anyway happy to

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show you sometime yeah and I think

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that'll be I mean I don't think

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that I I think the like for example you

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should pursue a neighborhood designation

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if the garage site's not the right site

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and the site across the street is well I

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mean I think the same learning I'm

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assuming the same learning as to what

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steps we should follow to try to do

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something and then and then the other

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thing is is what's the future who's who

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owns are we building something for

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someone to for ownership or are we

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building it for um something someone to

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some entity to run as lowincome housing

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that you it's rented so what what works

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best for Warren and and what do I don't

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know you guys may have discussed it or

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that may be another topic of discuss no no I mean I think we're

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really it's really that the fact that

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the garage is finally moving was like an

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opportunity we thought to and I know the

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mvpd is very excited about it too to

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finally try to move the ball forward in

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Warren Village um and so we don't have

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any preconceptions we we don't have any

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we don't have enough knowledge to to

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move the ball forward so that we're

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trying to gain that knowledge that's the

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idea well just speaking at the 100,000

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foot level I think it's very um Exemplar

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to move this process forward now as

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opposed to wait until the whole garage

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thing is done uh because we all know as

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we talked about the past and so on the

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sequential processes are such the sooner

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you start the sooner you can get

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something that you can make decisions on

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so I think it's great that you're doing

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that oh thank

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you well thank you for well which is to

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say we may not have that much to say

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yeah other than we have ideas we'd like

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to do something but we we really I'm

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looking I'm looking forward to it and uh

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I mean when we finish the the housing

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study a couple years years ago I was

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like what we need is a project we need a

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we need we need a project a community

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project uh and like sort of waiting for that to happen so this is this is a

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potential opportunity and I think it's a

519
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great conversation and and we've got a a

520
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pretty good base to work off of and

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there's a lot of resources out there so

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I'm looking forward to it so do you

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think it would be worthwhile for other I

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mean I guess if you're a planning

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commissioner and you know I don't know

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if Jonathan's on but like you're welcome to attend hopefully it's

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of Interest totally you know you know I

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think there should be some learning

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shared that we would be happy to hear

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from folks in weights field or faced in

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who have ideas to share or questions to

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ask yeah I didn't mean to to change the

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agenda but I just I thought it was a

534
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really cool idea um if if were there's

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opportunities to share information where

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there's a topic that might be of

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interest to all the towns and and some

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of the know talking broadly about

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strategies just the practice of letting

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other folks zoom in and I think it's a

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great idea why not it's awesome I mean

542
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yeah people have going on isn't

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weatfield kind of in the midst of

544
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some public private partnership with the

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U Valley me folks and then there's a

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parcel that they want to develop down by

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trom blé Road uh yeah the Sha brothers

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who own um own the old Gallaghers and

549
00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:33,480
the Methodist Church and did a small

550
00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:35,240
subdivision they bought the old small

551
00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:39,000
farm and the weed they came um they came

552
00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,960
to this SL board and just pitched give

553
00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:43,640
us this land and we'll develop housing

554
00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:46,240
and right that was extremely preliminary

555
00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:48,480
we're not you know anywhere near that

556
00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:50,159
conversation but but it is it is

557
00:23:50,159 --> 00:23:52,720
relevant it's the same kind of thing a

558
00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:54,600
public private Partnership of some sort

559
00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:56,799
in involving Town property and then of

560
00:23:56,799 --> 00:23:58,480
course we you know there's we still

561
00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:00,400
haven't figured out the future of the

562
00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:03,320
fairgrounds um and what whether that has

563
00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:06,720
a role in future Wastewater disposal or

564
00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:08,799
in some other form of development that's

565
00:24:08,799 --> 00:24:11,120
okay new guy here where's the

566
00:24:11,120 --> 00:24:14,159
fairs um behind the Catholic

567
00:24:14,159 --> 00:24:17,240
church it's actually it's it's there but

568
00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:18,960
I know where it is it's an amazing piece

569
00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:21,080
of property it's 16 a great place to go

570
00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:24,279
to for a walk yeah it's F you will you

571
00:24:24,279 --> 00:24:25,760
will think you're in a different world

572
00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:28,440
yeah for real you be like this is like

573
00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:30,520
yards off of Route 100 and I've know

574
00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:32,760
nothing about it behind behind our it's

575
00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:34,760
a 16 acre

576
00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:37,720
field flat field even know there in the

577
00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:40,720
1940s or 50s it was a Fairgrounds yeah

578
00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:42,720
there are pictures of old of fairs that

579
00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:44,679
are Conservation Commission you wouldn't

580
00:24:44,679 --> 00:24:46,520
know there unless you go to it and it

581
00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:50,120
goes up to um it it goes up to woo

582
00:24:50,120 --> 00:24:52,559
Ledges in

583
00:24:52,559 --> 00:24:55,279
a quite a hike from edges but there is a

584
00:24:55,279 --> 00:24:56,799
trail at least there used to be a trail

585
00:24:56,799 --> 00:24:58,799
it's actually it's it's a real nice hike

586
00:24:58,799 --> 00:25:01,159
although it's not a very well-defined

587
00:25:01,159 --> 00:25:04,200
tra right yeah I don't have to walk

588
00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,200
through the Catholic Church to get there

589
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:07,559
well if you go to the back of the

590
00:25:07,559 --> 00:25:09,559
parking lot there's like a slope that

591
00:25:09,559 --> 00:25:11,799
goes right up to it yeah is that am I

592
00:25:11,799 --> 00:25:15,909
correct that yes yeah it's just like a

593
00:25:15,919 --> 00:25:19,789
farm we don't need to get into

594
00:25:19,799 --> 00:25:22,880
your this is a safe

595
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:25,000
space you do have

596
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:26,720
the

597
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:29,840
last just say three Hill Mar's and do

598
00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:32,799
two rosaries and whatever El they do

599
00:25:32,799 --> 00:25:34,480
you're all set one

600
00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:37,080
FL so I I'll keep keep rolling I only

601
00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:39,000
have a few more a couple things one the

602
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:42,120
Irish village Master planning uh project

603
00:25:42,120 --> 00:25:44,720
uh so what was the 18th at the 15th or

604
00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:47,360
18th of November the Monday uh the week

605
00:25:47,360 --> 00:25:50,200
before Thanksgiving was a um was a

606
00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:54,279
really great uh public event uh and uh

607
00:25:54,279 --> 00:25:56,440
for that project there's a there's a

608
00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:58,760
website that's Linked In Here the master

609
00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:00,880
planning effort if you weren't able to

610
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:02,480
attend and are interested in what was

611
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:04,640
discussed and potentially interested in

612
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:07,279
sharing your thoughts and opinions um

613
00:26:07,279 --> 00:26:09,440
there there there's a way to participate

614
00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:11,320
um there there's a summary of of that

615
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:16,000
event on the page there is U um a form

616
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:17,679
that you can fill things in and pictures

617
00:26:17,679 --> 00:26:21,640
of every single one of the um of the dot

618
00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:24,840
voting U panels uh used at that that

619
00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:28,520
event so take a look at it um just an

620
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:30,320
last week I think it was the municipal

621
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:32,720
planning Grant uh program for this

622
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:35,720
upcoming year uh March 31st is the

623
00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:38,720
deadline so um up to $30,000 for

624
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:41,240
individual municipalities $45,000 for

625
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:44,000
Consortium applications um that's what a

626
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,080
consortion applications what's funding

627
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:48,480
the iris project that I just mentioned

628
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:50,080
um but the next round of funding has

629
00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:53,240
been uh identified and I think that was

630
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:55,880
all I was going to

631
00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:57,799
mention I'm happy to answer any

632
00:26:57,799 --> 00:26:59,000
questions

633
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:01,399
yeah anything else stand out to anybody

634
00:27:01,399 --> 00:27:04,990
on this written

635
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:08,039
report I would to ask one one more time

636
00:27:08,039 --> 00:27:10,080
before I I want so I mean I guess I

637
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:14,279
could do it I need a a whole acronym um

638
00:27:14,279 --> 00:27:17,240
sort index you know what I'm saying I've

639
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:19,360
got complete acronym overload I don't

640
00:27:19,360 --> 00:27:21,399
know how you TR all this stuff I will

641
00:27:21,399 --> 00:27:24,120
try to do a better job of spelling them

642
00:27:24,120 --> 00:27:25,720
out but I I literally wrote down spell

643
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:27,000
them out I could go through them and

644
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:29,000
then I could just make my own

645
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:30,919
little cheat sheet but I actually wrote

646
00:27:30,919 --> 00:27:34,120
down vcrd vhcb and accd so I wouldn't

647
00:27:34,120 --> 00:27:36,760
say it that way um and I actually can't

648
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:38,279
even remember if I actually said said

649
00:27:38,279 --> 00:27:40,120
them out loud or or just gave you the

650
00:27:40,120 --> 00:27:42,919
acronyms but I I I mean truly I mean

651
00:27:42,919 --> 00:27:45,120
there are a lot of acronyms and second

652
00:27:45,120 --> 00:27:47,880
all those acronyms can can can make you

653
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:49,960
feel excluded um and and part of the

654
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:51,399
idea is to ensure that people are

655
00:27:51,399 --> 00:27:53,080
included in this work yeah I mean you

656
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:56,200
could have the entire presentation and

657
00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,880
it would have just got

658
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:01,399
right that's a problem of eating it and

659
00:28:01,399 --> 00:28:04,000
breathing it for so long well thank you

660
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,880
for you're welcome breaking

661
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:09,960
it so let's move into new business the

662
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:13,200
uh mvpd that stands for Mad River Valley

663
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,399
planning

664
00:28:15,399 --> 00:28:20,840
district um draft work plan which

665
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:24,760
we have not we did not thinking back to

666
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:26,039
the executive committee meeting where we

667
00:28:26,039 --> 00:28:27,799
looked at a draft we have not we did not

668
00:28:27,799 --> 00:28:29,720
look at had it in November so we did not

669
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:31,399
correct we have not presented a draft to

670
00:28:31,399 --> 00:28:33,559
the steering committee yet correct and

671
00:28:33,559 --> 00:28:35,679
I'm realizing I should do put it on the

672
00:28:35,679 --> 00:28:38,559
screen anyway just for um a minute Taker

673
00:28:38,559 --> 00:28:41,480
and if anybody else is interested in in

674
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:44,720
what we're talking about I'll share the

675
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:47,080
screen and correct me if I'm wrong Josh

676
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:48,559
we have the steering committee is

677
00:28:48,559 --> 00:28:51,200
typically I've only been through one

678
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,919
budget and work plan cycle as a member

679
00:28:53,919 --> 00:28:55,960
of the steering committee but have

680
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:57,519
typically this time of year looked at

681
00:28:57,519 --> 00:28:59,640
them and in conjunction because they're

682
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:01,720
related to see what we're investing in

683
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:02,880
and correct where we're going to be

684
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,000
putting our resources this year exactly

685
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:08,360
and uh yeah and and I think it's good to

686
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:09,799
start with the work plan because let's

687
00:29:09,799 --> 00:29:11,640
start talking about the work before we

688
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:13,320
start talking about what we're spending

689
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:15,799
money on um before before we talk about

690
00:29:15,799 --> 00:29:17,279
the money side so I think that that's

691
00:29:17,279 --> 00:29:19,880
the right order um

692
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:24,080
so I want to sort of start with um our

693
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:29,440
first off with this FY uh fiscal year 26

694
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:31,279
um what is our fiscal year our fiscal

695
00:29:31,279 --> 00:29:33,240
year starts on March 1st and it ends at

696
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:35,720
the end of February this year that's on

697
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:37,240
the

698
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:40,960
28th uh the this year February so that's

699
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:44,080
our fiscal year um at our September 19th

700
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:45,960
steering committee meeting uh which was

701
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:47,960
that halfway point essentially of our

702
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,200
fiscal year I presented an update in the

703
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:51,840
broader context for the plane District's

704
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,320
work um we talked about the plane

705
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:56,240
District's purpose the vision statement

706
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:58,600
the domains The Guiding approaches

707
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:01,080
um and grants and we also talked about

708
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:05,399
where we were in the work plan uh that had been uh that we were again

709
00:30:05,399 --> 00:30:07,760
halfway through in the year so I just

710
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:10,720
want to um so so we did kind of a deep

711
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:12,279
dive not that long ago but I want to

712
00:30:12,279 --> 00:30:14,159
highlight a handful of things uh before

713
00:30:14,159 --> 00:30:16,080
we talk about where we're going so this

714
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:19,919
is the existing um uh this is the

715
00:30:19,919 --> 00:30:22,039
resulting work plan of of the effort

716
00:30:22,039 --> 00:30:23,279
last year approved by the select Board

717
00:30:23,279 --> 00:30:27,440
of January of 2024 um and it s to

718
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:29,720
balance broad lens as well as a focus on

719
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:32,279
specific projects um the plan district

720
00:30:32,279 --> 00:30:35,559
has this you know our charge uh as an

721
00:30:35,559 --> 00:30:37,440
organization and if anyone wants to go

722
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:39,399
into that those those things like our

723
00:30:39,399 --> 00:30:41,440
values and domains I absolutely will but

724
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:44,240
I was planning on just sort of staying

725
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:46,919
focused on the actual work plan but our

726
00:30:46,919 --> 00:30:49,960
focus is really Broad and the tendency

727
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:51,679
when it's uh when when the charge is

728
00:30:51,679 --> 00:30:54,960
Broad is that the work is also broad um

729
00:30:54,960 --> 00:31:00,480
uh and in my tenure um I found trying to

730
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:03,320
strike that balance of focusing on a

731
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:06,360
project as well as getting spread too

732
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:08,440
thin and doing too many things at once

733
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:10,679
and so uh right a little bit of Housing

734
00:31:10,679 --> 00:31:12,200
and a little bit of rural resources a

735
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:13,600
little bit of infrastructure a little

736
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:16,360
bit of Economic Development um you know

737
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:18,600
generally we kind of have a primary

738
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:22,559
thrust and uh and and and and in sort of

739
00:31:22,559 --> 00:31:25,159
like two three primary things and then

740
00:31:25,159 --> 00:31:26,919
involvement or support in some other

741
00:31:26,919 --> 00:31:28,519
things um

742
00:31:28,519 --> 00:31:31,440
and two years ago uh

743
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:34,039
in fiscal year

744
00:31:34,039 --> 00:31:38,120
20 four um in fiscal year

745
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:41,480
24 uh that was a time where we were down

746
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:43,480
a staff member uh at the beginning of

747
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:45,159
that year that that's the year that Sam

748
00:31:45,159 --> 00:31:48,000
came on board um but we made a decision

749
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,480
to really hammer and focus on one thing

750
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:52,480
and that was the wefi community

751
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:57,519
Wastewater project um and uh and and I

752
00:31:57,519 --> 00:32:03,919
think it worked um it was a good use of Staff time uh that project U it it

753
00:32:03,919 --> 00:32:06,360
was a it was a key involvement and a key

754
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:09,240
uh piece of time last year uh so that

755
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:11,159
was essentially 90% of my work in that

756
00:32:11,159 --> 00:32:14,720
year that and um and and Sam coming on

757
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:17,639
board and and so on and so forth um last

758
00:32:17,639 --> 00:32:20,080
year um or in fiscal year 25 the year

759
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:21,760
that we're in right now the waitsville

760
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:23,440
community Wastewater project is

761
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:26,159
essentially 50% of my time so it's not

762
00:32:26,159 --> 00:32:28,559
as much um as it was before

763
00:32:28,559 --> 00:32:30,200
um but uh but there's a fair amount of

764
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:31,799
involvement it is the primary thing that

765
00:32:31,799 --> 00:32:39,399
I'm focused on um we also have um our data work um that Sam is U primarily

766
00:32:39,399 --> 00:32:42,360
responsible for the data report the

767
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:44,080
community well-being survey the

768
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:49,760
community dashboard um uh housing U so

769
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:51,360
again these are things that we had put

770
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:53,519
on our work plan administer actually I'm

771
00:32:53,519 --> 00:32:55,679
gonna pop to the next page because when

772
00:32:55,679 --> 00:32:59,080
we talked about this last uh September I

773
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:00,600
identified this is where we are the

774
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:02,960
green things are the are the areas that

775
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:06,000
we've been deeply engaged in um uh and

776
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,399
the things that are not highlighted were

777
00:33:08,399 --> 00:33:09,559
the things that we weren't deeply

778
00:33:09,559 --> 00:33:11,840
engaged in but were ready well but were

779
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:13,840
at the ready if and when they they are

780
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:18,159
ready to be uh uh for our involvement so

781
00:33:18,159 --> 00:33:21,120
this is where we were uh in September

782
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:24,519
and honestly all those things have have stayed the course there there

783
00:33:24,519 --> 00:33:26,840
hasn't been a big change in any of that

784
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:28,880
um and then we had some additional items

785
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:30,960
um off to the right related to the July

786
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:34,639
10th uh flood and support um which

787
00:33:34,639 --> 00:33:36,720
started with sort of damage assessment

788
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:39,399
and mapping and facin Recovery

789
00:33:39,399 --> 00:33:41,559
coordination Dialogue on emergency

790
00:33:41,559 --> 00:33:45,320
response and uh interest in a

791
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:46,960
collaboration with friends of M River on

792
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:48,720
response rebuild and resilience and

793
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,760
talking about it an event Series so

794
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:54,200
that's kind of just I just want to

795
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:57,320
remind people where where we were um at

796
00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:58,279
that particular

797
00:33:58,279 --> 00:33:59,960
time

798
00:33:59,960 --> 00:34:03,000
so what what do I see for the new year

799
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:04,200
well you might look at that and be like

800
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,360
well that looks exactly the

801
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:09,399
same um I don't know I can go back and

802
00:34:09,399 --> 00:34:11,399
forth until until somebody can figure

803
00:34:11,399 --> 00:34:13,599
out what are the two things that are

804
00:34:13,599 --> 00:34:15,679
missing but but I'll make it easy on you

805
00:34:15,679 --> 00:34:21,599
something's gone from data yeah um yes very good Community wellbeing survey

806
00:34:21,599 --> 00:34:23,760
and the historical photo project related

807
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:27,159
to the real Resource Commission so um

808
00:34:27,159 --> 00:34:30,079
the reality is most of the work um

809
00:34:30,079 --> 00:34:32,520
doesn't fit cleanly within a particular

810
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:36,359
fiscal year um uh projects have a long

811
00:34:36,359 --> 00:34:40,159
lifespan uh and the waitsville uh

812
00:34:40,159 --> 00:34:42,560
Whitesville Community Wastewater project

813
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:44,480
and the role that I've been playing as a

814
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:47,679
doing project coordination um the

815
00:34:47,679 --> 00:34:50,480
project as I shared before is is in

816
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:56,200
final design and um and is is poised to

817
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:59,400
have bid documents that summer um or or

818
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:01,599
fall with with the hope of construction

819
00:35:01,599 --> 00:35:02,640
in

820
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:05,280
2026 um and and finish going through the

821
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:07,920
permitting and other pieces of that work

822
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:11,119
and so in the um the new fiscal year the

823
00:35:11,119 --> 00:35:13,040
things that I relate see specific to

824
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:15,440
that project in addition to finish

825
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:16,960
continuing the coordination and and

826
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,079
final design work and serving on the

827
00:35:19,079 --> 00:35:21,520
engineering and Technical team um but

828
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:23,520
that grant funding as I shared before

829
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:25,320
building off that momentum the USDA

830
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:27,359
Rural Development um Vermont Community

831
00:35:27,359 --> 00:35:29,359
Development program northern border

832
00:35:29,359 --> 00:35:31,960
Regional Commission um and and all the

833
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:33,320
opportunities related to the regional

834
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:37,520
project priority um uh listing as well

835
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:39,560
as communication Outreach working with

836
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:42,480
Regulators so on and so forth I don't um

837
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:44,280
I see in many ways that project heating

838
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:48,440
up um in in in those particular ways uh

839
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:52,960
in in the new year um and there was a

840
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,280
again a commitment for a a tremendous

841
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:57,760
amount of plan District time two years

842
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:00,760
uh two fiscal years or last fiscal year

843
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:03,079
uh and continuing that effort for a

844
00:36:03,079 --> 00:36:06,079
project that has impact um across the

845
00:36:06,079 --> 00:36:09,480
entire Valley uh the second on the data

846
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:13,480
side uh so the we do an annual data

847
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:15,319
report uh so that that work happens

848
00:36:15,319 --> 00:36:17,560
every single year and then the dashboard

849
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:19,240
the community dashboard is part of the

850
00:36:19,240 --> 00:36:21,720
output um of that effort the community

851
00:36:21,720 --> 00:36:24,119
well-being survey uh which we uh which

852
00:36:24,119 --> 00:36:29,400
Sam administered this year will be um we move to an every other year time

853
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:32,240
frame and so um so we get to set that

854
00:36:32,240 --> 00:36:36,280
aside uh but you know s was a lot

855
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:38,880
quicker the in doing the data report

856
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:40,760
this year than you were last year as far

857
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:42,720
as like putting all the pieces together

858
00:36:42,720 --> 00:36:45,880
and and and really building a um

859
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:49,079
efficiency in that effort um the next is

860
00:36:49,079 --> 00:36:53,079
Warren short-term rental data project um

861
00:36:53,079 --> 00:36:56,800
so it is our understanding that that uh

862
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:58,160
Warren's moving

863
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:00,880
um uh intending to have an ordinance on

864
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:03,560
short-term rental ining closer inching

865
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:08,560
closer um uh so the the war in PC was

866
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:10,119
really been implementing this pro

867
00:37:10,119 --> 00:37:14,839
project uh leading it initially and it's with the select board now um

868
00:37:14,839 --> 00:37:16,200
building off the plane District's

869
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:18,440
previous work on identifying a strategy

870
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:22,119
around short-term rentals um we

871
00:37:22,119 --> 00:37:25,319
undertook a 2022 um Community survey on

872
00:37:25,319 --> 00:37:27,599
short-term rentals and I me it's really

873
00:37:27,599 --> 00:37:29,960
great to see where war is and

874
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:32,440
anticipating that that the ordinance

875
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:34,839
will will move forward and then we'll be

876
00:37:34,839 --> 00:37:37,319
working with a short-term rental company

877
00:37:37,319 --> 00:37:40,599
granicus uh and we um specifically Sam

878
00:37:40,599 --> 00:37:42,880
will be providing support on the the

879
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:46,440
data side of that um and uh collecting

880
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:50,440
um uh and and analyzing the data so

881
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:52,319
we're prepared we were prepared for that

882
00:37:52,319 --> 00:37:54,000
this year but we're going to be prepared

883
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:57,760
for that for next year um uh and doing

884
00:37:57,760 --> 00:37:59,880
the iris Village master plan uh project

885
00:37:59,880 --> 00:38:01,520
that I gave a little bit of update on

886
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:03,960
before the shared use paths the sort of

887
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:06,720
Transportation things the first two so

888
00:38:06,720 --> 00:38:08,280
as Sam mentioned the sugar Bish Access

889
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:11,400
Road shared use path I think it was

890
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:13,920
2016 was the scoping study for that

891
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:18,400
project and segment one uh is uh has

892
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:19,839
received funding and that's the one

893
00:38:19,839 --> 00:38:21,880
that's um where the project plans are

894
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:23,800
being reviewed and we'll be going to U

895
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:25,480
through those processes that Sam

896
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:30,560
mentioned as well as applying for the next segment of that of that

897
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:32,400
project so the segment one goes for the

898
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:35,680
four corners and waren to um Airport

899
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:37,440
Road and then segment two is identified

900
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:39,640
to going from Airport Road sorry Golf

901
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:41,640
Course Road thank you um from Golf

902
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:44,480
Course road to the Sugar Bush in German

903
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:48,760
Flats Road um uh so assuming that that

904
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:52,880
gets well one the the existing phase um

905
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:54,560
moving that forward and then second

906
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:56,000
anticipating that there'll be the next

907
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:58,440
phase or segment of the project

908
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:00,960
um the Vermont 100 active Transportation

909
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:03,760
Corridor study um which is underway

910
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:07,040
right now with it with with an intention

911
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:11,359
uh in the either late summer or winter

912
00:39:11,359 --> 00:39:15,640
of next year to apply for funding um for

913
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:17,920
either additional analysis or

914
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:20,000
implementation of a segment of that of

915
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:23,119
that project um so that's sort of what

916
00:39:23,119 --> 00:39:26,599
the work is related to that um

917
00:39:26,599 --> 00:39:28,680
continuing the support of the Mad bus

918
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:31,319
Which oh man I left the bus mapping

919
00:39:31,319 --> 00:39:34,720
guides on my desk um but the bus starts

920
00:39:34,720 --> 00:39:38,640
on the 20th of December um the bad bus

921
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:39,960
but supporting the operation of that

922
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:42,839
work um and also being at the ready for

923
00:39:42,839 --> 00:39:46,480
the Vermont 117 intersection project uh

924
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:49,560
with the town of wesfield and and VR um

925
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:52,880
it is on the list it was scheduled for

926
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:56,960
some work to happen uh in December the

927
00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:59,400
end of 2024 but that apparently is being

928
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:02,119
pushed back so was just in as side any

929
00:40:02,119 --> 00:40:04,240
changes anticipated in the MB schedule

930
00:40:04,240 --> 00:40:06,319
for this year compared to last

931
00:40:06,319 --> 00:40:12,240
year um there was a small change in um I

932
00:40:12,240 --> 00:40:14,000
can get back to the specifics basically

933
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,560
it was a late night service on the

934
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:20,079
weekend there was a very low ridership

935
00:40:20,079 --> 00:40:21,520
can't remember the exact time slot to

936
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:23,920
the valley floor um and it was a

937
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:31,599
reduction of maybe 20 to 30 hours per season so that was that was one

938
00:40:31,599 --> 00:40:34,200
alteration um but I can I can send you

939
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:38,400
the specifics later on but by and large

940
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:40,800
it was more or less the same Okay the

941
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:42,280
reason for stimulating the question was

942
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:44,839
the GMT have just cutbacks across the

943
00:40:44,839 --> 00:40:47,200
whole state and whole operating areas

944
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:50,040
when impact us yeah so so we're not

945
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:51,000
aware

946
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:54,880
of of of of that type of impact with

947
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:56,839
which is great and maybe I'm off the

948
00:40:56,839 --> 00:41:04,960
back here as well but what's um what is proposed for the Vermont 117

949
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:07,839
intersection we have zero

950
00:41:07,839 --> 00:41:11,119
idea not off the back yeah yeah so so so

951
00:41:11,119 --> 00:41:12,599
nothing is proposed I mean there was a

952
00:41:12,599 --> 00:41:14,760
20-year process they came up with a

953
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:17,319
design a long time ago that then got

954
00:41:17,319 --> 00:41:19,839
sheld um I think it came up with 16

955
00:41:19,839 --> 00:41:22,119
designs correct a lot of disagreement

956
00:41:22,119 --> 00:41:24,520
among bodies in Wayfield over what the

957
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:27,800
protester actually crazy and Fa it

958
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:30,359
t uh and not only were there 16 designs

959
00:41:30,359 --> 00:41:32,160
but I remember seeing 16 different

960
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:35,280
options in the in like the 17th year of

961
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:38,079
that project which absolutely blows my

962
00:41:38,079 --> 00:41:42,240
mind but um so when vtrans came to we

963
00:41:42,240 --> 00:41:44,599
came with an offer to help they made a

964
00:41:44,599 --> 00:41:49,280
sign a a commitment to get

965
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:51,960
along where where's the town where's the

966
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:55,800
town lch um just over the

967
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,839
bridge right yeah yeah the brid just a

968
00:41:58,839 --> 00:42:00,880
little ways yeah just on the other side

969
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:03,720
of the bridge yeah so so the reason just

970
00:42:03,720 --> 00:42:05,800
a little bit of quick

971
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:09,280
history uh the my understanding is that

972
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:10,720
uh that the intersection work that was

973
00:42:10,720 --> 00:42:14,599
done before was uh it started because of

974
00:42:14,599 --> 00:42:16,680
looking at the bridge and and that the

975
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:19,160
bridge over the milbrook was both

976
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:21,440
functionally um deficient and

977
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:24,480
geometrically deficient um uh and there

978
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:26,160
was an they were looking at that and the

979
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:29,119
approach to that bridge isn't fa it um

980
00:42:29,119 --> 00:42:30,280
and when they were looking at the bridge

981
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:31,160
they were like well there's this

982
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:33,200
intersection too which is also tricky

983
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:35,640
and it and it got larger and um so it

984
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:37,160
was a complicated project there was a

985
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:38,880
lot of disagreement I actually found the

986
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:41,480
motion at town meeting day I want to say

987
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:45,760
2005 2003 uh where the voters voted to

988
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:48,240
offici wesfield to officially disengage

989
00:42:48,240 --> 00:42:50,440
from VR and stop working on the project

990
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:52,119
because of all of that disagreement I've

991
00:42:52,119 --> 00:42:54,240
never seen that before and so the fact

992
00:42:54,240 --> 00:42:56,680
that V is willing to come back is great

993
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:58,480
they they these types of stipulations as

994
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:01,960
Brian said and um uh but uh my

995
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:02,680
understanding is that there's a fair

996
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:04,880
amount of backlog but it was in their

997
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:07,240
budget this past year which I anticipate

998
00:43:07,240 --> 00:43:10,040
will roll over into the next year um I

999
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:12,160
have a reminder every single month to

1000
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:15,079
send a reminder to VR and cvpc asking

1001
00:43:15,079 --> 00:43:17,440
them the status of of that project and I

1002
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:19,880
will continue to be the squeaky wheel um

1003
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:22,119
so rural resources the B Valley Rural

1004
00:43:22,119 --> 00:43:24,920
Resource Commission um uh the planning

1005
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:27,480
district in 2022 focused on on

1006
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:29,359
reconstituting the matter value Ro

1007
00:43:29,359 --> 00:43:30,760
Resource Commission fulfilling a

1008
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:32,520
commitment that the plane District made

1009
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:35,480
back in 1987 to have a an active CLG

1010
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:40,040
Community local government entity um and

1011
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:41,440
uh I'm

1012
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:43,920
trying um there's a lot of them Paul's

1013
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:45,440
blazing

1014
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:49,640
over blazing over certifi certified

1015
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:51,760
sorry what did I say community oh yes

1016
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:53,400
than thank you Brian certified love

1017
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:57,950
govern see I'm even if we're using you

1018
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:02,559
and uh and and and and in 2022 and

1019
00:44:02,559 --> 00:44:04,920
2023 was the Boyce Hill education

1020
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:08,000
project in fac in um which was led by

1021
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:10,160
the r Resource Commission and the

1022
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:12,280
historical photo project was the project

1023
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:14,280
that that's happened in this particular

1024
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:16,839
fiscal year um there is not a particular

1025
00:44:16,839 --> 00:44:19,119
project on the docket for that group and

1026
00:44:19,119 --> 00:44:21,480
right now it's kind of in a quiet stage

1027
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:25,000
um but what a sort of holding space for

1028
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:30,680
the rural Resource Commission there um Al speaking of holding space provide

1029
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:32,240
project review and guidance on sug Bish

1030
00:44:32,240 --> 00:44:34,240
projects and mou revisions is sort of

1031
00:44:34,240 --> 00:44:36,200
something that two two items that we've

1032
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:39,800
sort of held um that not aware of any

1033
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:41,400
particular projects that require review

1034
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:44,160
and guidance and no proposals on theou

1035
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:46,000
revisions that I'm aware of but holding

1036
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:48,319
space for those things um and then

1037
00:44:48,319 --> 00:44:50,960
Municipal support everything from tting

1038
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:53,400
meetings um in support of Zone

1039
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:55,760
administrators and having uh Gatherings

1040
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:57,640
of them across the valley

1041
00:44:57,640 --> 00:45:00,160
um TR toown leadership meeting uh which

1042
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:02,040
we lasted in in

1043
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:05,839
2023 and um communication and Outreach

1044
00:45:05,839 --> 00:45:08,640
activities one question jge very as I've

1045
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:10,319
been away from this table for a bit has

1046
00:45:10,319 --> 00:45:12,079
there been any change in the mou since I

1047
00:45:12,079 --> 00:45:15,319
was last year no okay thank you and is

1048
00:45:15,319 --> 00:45:16,359
there anything

1049
00:45:16,359 --> 00:45:20,079
anticipated no okay um and and we might

1050
00:45:20,079 --> 00:45:22,119
meet there was a request from Sugar Bush

1051
00:45:22,119 --> 00:45:24,240
to keep that on there previously and

1052
00:45:24,240 --> 00:45:27,440
that's what we did um and was a

1053
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:29,760
discussion after the trown leadership

1054
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:30,839
meeting in

1055
00:45:30,839 --> 00:45:35,000
2013 which really kicked off the the

1056
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:36,880
commitment to the Wastewater project but

1057
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:38,240
there was a discussion about the

1058
00:45:38,240 --> 00:45:40,880
possibility of having some mou changes

1059
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:44,280
um but there nothing that I'm aware of

1060
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:47,119
came from that I mean sorry but at one

1061
00:45:47,119 --> 00:45:49,800
time there was because a lot of theou is

1062
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:51,960
focused well it's almost exclusively

1063
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:54,760
focused on sugar Bush's what right it's

1064
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:56,079
what Sugar Bush is going to do and it's

1065
00:45:56,079 --> 00:45:58,319
been changed

1066
00:45:58,319 --> 00:46:00,000
that's what predicated it right and the

1067
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:02,880
mvpd does a lot of other things now I

1068
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:04,800
would say largely not focused on Sugar

1069
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:07,200
Bush so there there there there's an

1070
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:10,280
argument for saying well what but it's a

1071
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:12,680
big thing it's a big thing and maybe I'm

1072
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:14,079
not sure there's a lot of will to take

1073
00:46:14,079 --> 00:46:17,319
on that big to open that can of worms

1074
00:46:17,319 --> 00:46:18,720
when there's so many other things going

1075
00:46:18,720 --> 00:46:21,440
on but but the roles of responsibilities

1076
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:23,440
the um subcommittee of the planning

1077
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:25,359
district uh which was formed and has

1078
00:46:25,359 --> 00:46:27,720
been focusing on a variety of things

1079
00:46:27,720 --> 00:46:31,720
this this was um I think that that's an

1080
00:46:31,720 --> 00:46:34,440
opening to have uh some mlu

1081
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:38,880
changes indeed so in addition to those

1082
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:42,280
things um so almost almost fully the

1083
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:44,319
same as the existing year um

1084
00:46:44,319 --> 00:46:47,599
opportunities requests um items for this

1085
00:46:47,599 --> 00:46:49,160
year that I'm aware of that have been

1086
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:51,119
brought to my attention or have had

1087
00:46:51,119 --> 00:46:52,920
requests so that friends of Mad River

1088
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:54,480
collaboration response rebuild and

1089
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:56,960
resilience efforts um and well and I

1090
00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:58,240
should should mention each of these

1091
00:46:58,240 --> 00:47:00,760
things are kind of more conceptual than

1092
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:03,240
they are anything specific um but these

1093
00:47:03,240 --> 00:47:05,319
are sort of opportunities and request so

1094
00:47:05,319 --> 00:47:07,040
one is working with Friends of the Mad

1095
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:11,040
River um and and and and engaging the

1096
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:15,359
community on one uh events exploring

1097
00:47:15,359 --> 00:47:17,440
response uh rebuild and resilience

1098
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:22,440
efforts but second um uh working on some structural things with Emergency

1099
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:23,880
Management coordinators and things of

1100
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:26,280
that sort um we've had a handful of

1101
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:28,640
initial conversations um but that's as

1102
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:31,839
far as it's G it's gone so far uh the

1103
00:47:31,839 --> 00:47:34,079
second as we mentioned the Warren PC

1104
00:47:34,079 --> 00:47:37,000
conversation on the Town garage site not sure where that conversation is

1105
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:39,920
going to go um but being open to that uh

1106
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:42,240
and want to ensure that we have

1107
00:47:42,240 --> 00:47:44,559
resources to be able to to to provide

1108
00:47:44,559 --> 00:47:46,720
that support um community recreation

1109
00:47:46,720 --> 00:47:49,400
visioning 2.0 so the VOR Grant the

1110
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:52,079
Vermont outdoor recreation economic

1111
00:47:52,079 --> 00:47:56,119
collaborative um uh uh that if you

1112
00:47:56,119 --> 00:47:59,240
remember back in the summer late summer

1113
00:47:59,240 --> 00:48:03,319
um Laura arson um and Phil Huffman did a

1114
00:48:03,319 --> 00:48:05,559
presentation on the VOR project and

1115
00:48:05,559 --> 00:48:07,599
specifically a portion of that which is

1116
00:48:07,599 --> 00:48:09,960
the community recreation visioning um

1117
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:14,440
also known as CRV um uh and that work in

1118
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:17,119
the VOR Grant are uh going to be closed

1119
00:48:17,119 --> 00:48:20,119
in March um and there's an initial

1120
00:48:20,119 --> 00:48:24,240
conversation on 2.0 of that effort a not

1121
00:48:24,240 --> 00:48:26,480
having that grant funding U but wanting

1122
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:28,800
to continue having dialogue and work

1123
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:31,480
related to Recreation and conservation

1124
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:34,920
efforts in the valley um uh and so Laura

1125
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:37,160
reached out to me directly a month and a

1126
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:39,839
half ago um and requested planing

1127
00:48:39,839 --> 00:48:42,359
District's involvement as she did um

1128
00:48:42,359 --> 00:48:44,640
when she was here um but specifically

1129
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:48,079
related to this this next version um

1130
00:48:48,079 --> 00:48:50,000
there isn't Clarity yet on what that

1131
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:53,920
work looks like um uh is it you know

1132
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:55,720
quarterly meetings of the partners and

1133
00:48:55,720 --> 00:48:57,960
they're looking for facilit support or

1134
00:48:57,960 --> 00:48:59,880
are they looking in involvement in a in

1135
00:48:59,880 --> 00:49:02,920
a more substantial way um and that's yet

1136
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:05,480
to be seen but what did I read in the

1137
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:09,440
Val report today about war they got more

1138
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:11,720
funding okay and I'm sorry it's I hate

1139
00:49:11,720 --> 00:49:13,440
to keep doing this this great it's

1140
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:17,000
conservation Recreation oh me you are

1141
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:19,079
right

1142
00:49:19,079 --> 00:49:24,319
Brian see this is why I CRV Still Still

1143
00:49:24,319 --> 00:49:27,480
CRV um no I just read you correct at any

1144
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:28,880
point all of you

1145
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:31,720
can um I just read in the paper that

1146
00:49:31,720 --> 00:49:33,079
they got some additional funding

1147
00:49:33,079 --> 00:49:36,200
including from uh B and Conservation

1148
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:39,480
Commission Warren ARA money and W

1149
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:43,040
District right great

1150
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:48,280
I I don't know which for yeah and and I don't either and so but but I do

1151
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:50,280
know that the existing group is having a

1152
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:53,000
conversation about a 2.0 and um and

1153
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:54,880
looking uh and are interested in having

1154
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:56,960
the plan districts involvement um you

1155
00:49:56,960 --> 00:49:58,480
know if it was something like

1156
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:00,680
facilitation and and that kind of work

1157
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:02,400
that that that could be we've talked

1158
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:03,760
internally that that could be a role

1159
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:07,160
that that Sam can could play um uh but

1160
00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:10,319
you know so that's kind of a wait and

1161
00:50:10,319 --> 00:50:13,119
see and then last is um TR Town

1162
00:50:13,119 --> 00:50:14,559
leadership meeting so like I said in

1163
00:50:14,559 --> 00:50:17,839
January 2023 so a year almost two years

1164
00:50:17,839 --> 00:50:19,400
ago was the last time that we had a

1165
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:21,760
gathering and that was really specific

1166
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:23,280
specifically focused on sort of like

1167
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:26,200
where's the plane District now um but

1168
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:28,200
this next year is our 40th anniversary

1169
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:32,319
which Brian previously corrected me on a date um but I got it right this

1170
00:50:32,319 --> 00:50:35,000
time right um and maybe it's an

1171
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:42,200
opportunity to have a gathering um that serves the community but also uh

1172
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:44,839
potentially some either writings or or

1173
00:50:44,839 --> 00:50:47,119
other things in this year that highlight

1174
00:50:47,119 --> 00:50:48,680
the sort of longevity of the work in the

1175
00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:52,079
planning district um has has undertaken

1176
00:50:52,079 --> 00:50:54,880
in service of its its um partner

1177
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:57,839
communities so those are things for

1178
00:50:57,839 --> 00:51:01,000
which I don't have a particular project

1179
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:04,520
um uh or or or anything related to it um

1180
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:06,680
the next sort of piece and we're nearly

1181
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:08,559
done is sort of like okay so who do does

1182
00:51:08,559 --> 00:51:10,720
what and i' I've kind of explained some

1183
00:51:10,720 --> 00:51:13,920
of this uh so far one of the things in

1184
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:16,400
this particular uh fiscal year that

1185
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:19,119
we're in now and I foresee going forward

1186
00:51:19,119 --> 00:51:22,079
is um my in addition to the planning

1187
00:51:22,079 --> 00:51:25,160
work um uh which is overwhelmingly what

1188
00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:26,920
you see here uh that said and I are

1189
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:29,079
engaged in but but working specifically

1190
00:51:29,079 --> 00:51:32,880
more of the administrative work on and things related to financials and

1191
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:35,680
budgeting um uh for which I have been

1192
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:37,079
engaged in that's the next thing we're

1193
00:51:37,079 --> 00:51:39,400
going to talk about um but wanting to

1194
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:41,960
ensure that that can can be will be a

1195
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:44,400
priority going forward um you know left

1196
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:46,200
to my own devices I usually will do more

1197
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:47,680
the planning work than they than the

1198
00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:49,520
finance work U because that's kind of

1199
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:51,920
how I'm hardwired but um but I want to

1200
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:54,119
ensure uh but I'm excited to do that

1201
00:51:54,119 --> 00:51:56,280
work as well and want to make sure that

1202
00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:58,559
we're overloading so that we're being

1203
00:51:58,559 --> 00:52:01,160
pulled in too many

1204
00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:03,799
directions so that leads

1205
00:52:03,799 --> 00:52:06,520
to essentially the list of things minus

1206
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:09,359
the two with a couple items to explore

1207
00:52:09,359 --> 00:52:12,000
um uh and I've got I guess I only made

1208
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:14,559
five pery copies can I add something to

1209
00:52:14,559 --> 00:52:17,799
your list yeah pleas yes not so much

1210
00:52:17,799 --> 00:52:19,799
that it's going to U create a lot of

1211
00:52:19,799 --> 00:52:21,240
work for the two of you but we had

1212
00:52:21,240 --> 00:52:23,839
talked about the mou that we are going

1213
00:52:23,839 --> 00:52:25,400
to try to develop with the ambulance

1214
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:27,680
service oh yeah and I think it should

1215
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:30,559
stay on a project list just to stay on

1216
00:52:30,559 --> 00:52:34,160
our radar I don't know yet what would be

1217
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:38,520
required of you two other than us we had

1218
00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:40,520
talked about didn't there didn't the

1219
00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:43,559
engs prepare a draft they did prepare

1220
00:52:43,559 --> 00:52:46,559
draft so I guess it would be up to us to

1221
00:52:46,559 --> 00:52:48,200
take a look at that and determine how we

1222
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:51,720
want to do it as Valley towns um but I

1223
00:52:51,720 --> 00:52:53,079
just like to see it on the list so we

1224
00:52:53,079 --> 00:52:55,520
don't lose sight of it I don't think we

1225
00:52:55,520 --> 00:52:58,240
have to do anything to completion

1226
00:52:58,240 --> 00:53:00,359
probably before the end of the summer

1227
00:53:00,359 --> 00:53:02,160
when we get into budgeting season again

1228
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:03,760
and they're going to be asking us for

1229
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:06,559
money again and we should have anou in

1230
00:53:06,559 --> 00:53:08,839
place when that happens so I thought it

1231
00:53:08,839 --> 00:53:11,640
was a little more immediate is it not I

1232
00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:13,520
don't think so okay well I think they're

1233
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:15,280
going to be asking for money this year

1234
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:17,400
yeah yeah and and I guess that's going

1235
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:20,040
to be separate from the mou I mean

1236
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:22,160
that's that's the way our our select

1237
00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:23,640
board looked at it for budgeting we're

1238
00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:25,119
going to CU we talked about it two

1239
00:53:25,119 --> 00:53:28,319
nights ago and we didn't have the we we

1240
00:53:28,319 --> 00:53:29,319
thought they were going to come and

1241
00:53:29,319 --> 00:53:32,040
present and they didn't okay so we

1242
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:34,280
didn't take a vote on it but we're we're

1243
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:35,880
pretty much ready to go

1244
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:38,839
on nothing to wait for that I'm aware of

1245
00:53:38,839 --> 00:53:40,520
yeah and if it happen sooner the better

1246
00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:42,599
so so I I was like I was thinking it was

1247
00:53:42,599 --> 00:53:43,480
an

1248
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:47,559
imminent U okay I don't know we had

1249
00:53:47,559 --> 00:53:50,160
talked at one of our last meetings about

1250
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:52,240
yeah I'm trying to remember I thought so

1251
00:53:52,240 --> 00:53:54,200
as well and it

1252
00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:57,760
was um I I know we've received it I

1253
00:53:57,760 --> 00:54:00,040
don't know that we taken action on it

1254
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:02,480
mean the draft look fairly ready to just

1255
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:05,040
be tweaked and well I think an attorney

1256
00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:06,920
review would be appropriate as well

1257
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:09,240
before we move forward with it so you

1258
00:54:09,240 --> 00:54:12,680
know those kinds of things um and all

1259
00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:14,440
three I'm assuming all three towns have

1260
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:17,760
to right it's a single mou so all three

1261
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:20,119
towns would have to age and more town is

1262
00:54:20,119 --> 00:54:23,559
part of the deal as well so we half yeah

1263
00:54:23,559 --> 00:54:25,319
partner whatever yeah have to coordinate

1264
00:54:25,319 --> 00:54:27,599
with them as well so but I think we have

1265
00:54:27,599 --> 00:54:30,000
it on the list we so so what do you

1266
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:32,680
think the order of business is

1267
00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:35,760
it's have a town attorney look at each

1268
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:37,359
town has a town attorney look at it or

1269
00:54:37,359 --> 00:54:40,880
do we all uh sign off on one town

1270
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:43,720
attorney or how do we do that I think

1271
00:54:43,720 --> 00:54:45,440
that would be ideal if we could do it

1272
00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:47,319
through this organization you know have

1273
00:54:47,319 --> 00:54:49,760
one attorney look at plan District pays

1274
00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:52,119
for it another Town's reimburse I would

1275
00:54:52,119 --> 00:54:55,640
think yeah yeah yeah no offense to the

1276
00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:57,480
attorneys but I'm just having three

1277
00:54:57,480 --> 00:54:59,280
attorneys or four attorneys look at oh

1278
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:03,470
that that that's like divorce

1279
00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:06,920
cord that's not kind so I'll put I'll

1280
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:08,839
put the breaks on Warren for a little

1281
00:55:08,839 --> 00:55:11,799
bit and tell this is

1282
00:55:11,799 --> 00:55:16,359
not needed for the immediate term we we

1283
00:55:16,359 --> 00:55:17,720
were going to pass it the other night

1284
00:55:17,720 --> 00:55:20,880
and sign it oh so uh good that we did

1285
00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:23,079
not we we bring that back up I'm trying

1286
00:55:23,079 --> 00:55:24,839
to remember if it was on our consent

1287
00:55:24,839 --> 00:55:27,799
agenda we may have signed off on it but

1288
00:55:27,799 --> 00:55:31,799
I will check on Monday okay yeah let's do that and communicate through

1289
00:55:31,799 --> 00:55:34,960
Josh yeah sounds good

1290
00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:37,760
great so it sort of leads to here and

1291
00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:39,319
really what I want to do is have have a

1292
00:55:39,319 --> 00:55:44,039
discussion is like you know are

1293
00:55:44,039 --> 00:55:46,559
these are there blind spots are we

1294
00:55:46,559 --> 00:55:51,799
focusing on things that um uh where there where focus should go

1295
00:55:51,799 --> 00:55:54,520
elsewhere so on and so forth U many

1296
00:55:54,520 --> 00:55:57,480
questions about these things um you know

1297
00:55:57,480 --> 00:55:59,319
this isn't as ful you know I didn't come

1298
00:55:59,319 --> 00:56:01,359
in with a fully baked thing it was just

1299
00:56:01,359 --> 00:56:02,799
sort of building off of the work we've

1300
00:56:02,799 --> 00:56:06,200
been doing um uh and and and a

1301
00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:07,920
continuation of that with some some

1302
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:10,280
opportunities for for some new things is

1303
00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:14,079
there work to be added in for um Health

1304
00:56:14,079 --> 00:56:17,150
Center

1305
00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:21,920
issues or do do you have do you have a lane there or is that

1306
00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:24,799
something that is not really it may not

1307
00:56:24,799 --> 00:56:27,880
be like our B at all it's just something

1308
00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:30,039
it's done to us rather than we're part

1309
00:56:30,039 --> 00:56:33,160
of having it done yeah yeah I mean I

1310
00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:35,599
think I think that that's a well

1311
00:56:35,599 --> 00:56:39,280
one yeah there there seems like

1312
00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:41,880
they're similar to the what you were

1313
00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:43,640
just talking about there there there's a

1314
00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:45,960
timing piece here right so there's a

1315
00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:47,400
timing piece related to the health

1316
00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:49,640
center but there's but you know there's

1317
00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:51,480
an immediate things that are happening

1318
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:55,400
or could be happening right now and then some longer term I don't

1319
00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:57,440
exactly know what that Lane would be or

1320
00:56:57,440 --> 00:56:59,680
a role but you know it there does seem

1321
00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:02,200
to be an opportunity or potentially a

1322
00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:10,720
need uh to have uh some leadership and um centrality around the discussion

1323
00:57:10,720 --> 00:57:14,640
um I've been focusing on

1324
00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:17,440
budgets for the last couple of weeks um

1325
00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:19,240
so so I haven't been in that in that

1326
00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:21,960
brain space but um but but yeah I mean I

1327
00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:23,079
think that that's a great discussion for

1328
00:57:23,079 --> 00:57:24,760
us to have I was going to bring up in

1329
00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:26,440
the Run table that we proba should about

1330
00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:27,920
discussion I think it's a very shortterm

1331
00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:29,799
issue it's not really a a budget for

1332
00:57:29,799 --> 00:57:32,359
2026 issue I don't think at this point

1333
00:57:32,359 --> 00:57:34,760
at least something dramatically happens

1334
00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:38,359
build build something new right yeah

1335
00:57:38,359 --> 00:57:41,319
Josh and I were talking about this we I

1336
00:57:41,319 --> 00:57:42,760
received one with a couple other people

1337
00:57:42,760 --> 00:57:46,119
Marco being one the letter from Su fet I

1338
00:57:46,119 --> 00:57:48,319
don't know if you remember that's Sue

1339
00:57:48,319 --> 00:57:52,079
had a background in in nursing and um

1340
00:57:52,079 --> 00:57:54,960
medical Consulting kind of thing and so

1341
00:57:54,960 --> 00:57:59,200
she offered to help whatever group or

1342
00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:01,839
organization could use the help just to

1343
00:58:01,839 --> 00:58:03,599
kind of analyze what's going on and Josh

1344
00:58:03,599 --> 00:58:05,720
and I talked about that and we you know

1345
00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:07,839
there's nobody in the valley that has

1346
00:58:07,839 --> 00:58:10,319
the Focus right now to to do that kind

1347
00:58:10,319 --> 00:58:12,079
of work to have somebody like Sue come

1348
00:58:12,079 --> 00:58:14,920
in analyze what's been going on make

1349
00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:17,240
some suggestions even on questions to

1350
00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:19,720
ask she said you know she she could be

1351
00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:21,799
helpful and that but there's nobody

1352
00:58:21,799 --> 00:58:23,400
really in the valley that's that's

1353
00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:24,839
sparting that and I don't know if we're

1354
00:58:24,839 --> 00:58:27,400
the group to do that or or there's

1355
00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:29,880
others that may be more appropriate but

1356
00:58:29,880 --> 00:58:32,960
you know so I I haven't directed her

1357
00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:37,599
anywhere um you know not knowing who the

1358
00:58:37,599 --> 00:58:40,200
best organization would be to do that

1359
00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:41,480
wouldn't you think it should be the the

1360
00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:43,680
health center board is kind of this

1361
00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:46,200
bearhead or no well so their

1362
00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:51,920
responsibility is for the building and that's it and and the rank um so

1363
00:58:51,920 --> 00:58:55,280
they they don't really have any any say

1364
00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:58,079
in the healthcare aspect of it if that's

1365
00:58:58,079 --> 00:59:00,000
the right way to put it but they did 10

1366
00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:02,440
years ago right didn't they morph out of

1367
00:59:02,440 --> 00:59:05,119
that no so they uh CU I was on that

1368
00:59:05,119 --> 00:59:08,839
board a while back as well and um no we

1369
00:59:08,839 --> 00:59:11,520
were always the landlord and okay and

1370
00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:14,440
still are the landlord now naturally the

1371
00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:16,319
one of the missions of that building is

1372
00:59:16,319 --> 00:59:19,319
to support healthc care in the valley

1373
00:59:19,319 --> 00:59:20,960
and so they're concerned from that

1374
00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:22,799
perspective they're also concerned about

1375
00:59:22,799 --> 00:59:24,599
having empty space in the building that

1376
00:59:24,599 --> 00:59:27,640
they would need to rent um but as far as

1377
00:59:27,640 --> 00:59:33,480
the direct medical uh impact they don't have any I mean they've been

1378
00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:35,839
sending letter to their voice yeah has

1379
00:59:35,839 --> 00:59:39,000
been heard I read their their letter in

1380
00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:40,799
the paper and I thought it was well done

1381
00:59:40,799 --> 00:59:43,319
yeah um initially that when they were

1382
00:59:43,319 --> 00:59:45,760
formed to to build a building it was to

1383
00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:49,880
recruit a doctor corre correct way back

1384
00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:54,200
and and Fran cook uh actually was he had

1385
00:59:54,200 --> 00:59:56,200
the little ranch house right and he

1386
00:59:56,200 --> 00:59:59,599
moved into that practice Yeah and then

1387
00:59:59,599 --> 01:00:01,119
there was too much administrative work

1388
01:00:01,119 --> 01:00:03,599
for him I believe and he was happy to

1389
01:00:03,599 --> 01:00:05,200
have in the hospital offered to come in

1390
01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:07,319
and take over that space that he

1391
01:00:07,319 --> 01:00:08,880
transitioned into working for the

1392
01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:12,000
hospital and then he retired and then we

1393
01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:13,400
have all the other practitioners that

1394
01:00:13,400 --> 01:00:17,920
are in there now so yeah it's been a

1395
01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:19,400
transition

1396
01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:22,720
since 2007 2008 I think the building

1397
01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:28,280
opened yeah yeah around there yeah so I don't know I just put that out

1398
01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:30,119
there I don't know who the proper people

1399
01:00:30,119 --> 01:00:32,559
are to to spearhead it does seem like

1400
01:00:32,559 --> 01:00:34,119
it's going to be a short-term thing I

1401
01:00:34,119 --> 01:00:36,760
don't know if if it's there's enough

1402
01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:39,559
time to organize people to to do the

1403
01:00:39,559 --> 01:00:41,960
work that needs to be done you know in

1404
01:00:41,960 --> 01:00:44,720
time for impacting a decision I don't

1405
01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:46,799
know how all that will

1406
01:00:46,799 --> 01:00:49,640
work but who's available if anybody

1407
01:00:49,640 --> 01:00:51,880
hears of anyone who's looking for

1408
01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:54,960
additional information or support um

1409
01:00:54,960 --> 01:00:59,430
she's volunteering

1410
01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:02,000
so yeah I mean I I would say from a

1411
01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:05,319
staffing perspective in in timing and

1412
01:01:05,319 --> 01:01:07,799
resources we're not in a position like

1413
01:01:07,799 --> 01:01:09,160
we're not we're not looking for

1414
01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:11,680
something um but but but but I think

1415
01:01:11,680 --> 01:01:14,880
it's it's a mixture of having resources

1416
01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:17,599
being well positioned and um like

1417
01:01:17,599 --> 01:01:19,960
CommunityWide uh and being in a

1418
01:01:19,960 --> 01:01:22,079
leadership role and being respected

1419
01:01:22,079 --> 01:01:24,240
whatever that organization or individual

1420
01:01:24,240 --> 01:01:27,359
is um but but they does seem to be in

1421
01:01:27,359 --> 01:01:31,880
need um uh but I yeah it hasn't been

1422
01:01:31,880 --> 01:01:34,119
identified yet yeah like it's

1423
01:01:34,119 --> 01:01:37,440
Communications and coordination right if

1424
01:01:37,440 --> 01:01:39,480
I yeah I mean because right now I think

1425
01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:41,680
it's overwhelmingly confusion yeah right

1426
01:01:41,680 --> 01:01:43,480
confusion is the is the circumstance

1427
01:01:43,480 --> 01:01:44,839
that we're all dealing with like what's

1428
01:01:44,839 --> 01:01:46,520
going on and why what's the motivation

1429
01:01:46,520 --> 01:01:48,240
and how is that happening and why did

1430
01:01:48,240 --> 01:01:50,480
that happen and what can happen I mean

1431
01:01:50,480 --> 01:01:51,799
that those are

1432
01:01:51,799 --> 01:01:54,559
the that's how I would frame sort of

1433
01:01:54,559 --> 01:01:56,640
where things are at

1434
01:01:56,640 --> 01:01:59,240
yeah it is a Communications

1435
01:01:59,240 --> 01:02:01,640
piece and do we have any levers to

1436
01:02:01,640 --> 01:02:03,720
change anything

1437
01:02:03,720 --> 01:02:06,240
right the end of the day yeah I mean

1438
01:02:06,240 --> 01:02:07,520
I've been in communication with somebody

1439
01:02:07,520 --> 01:02:09,240
at the hospital who's the communications

1440
01:02:09,240 --> 01:02:12,440
director at the hospital about this and

1441
01:02:12,440 --> 01:02:15,079
he's very he's he's happy to

1442
01:02:15,079 --> 01:02:16,440
communications director he's happy to

1443
01:02:16,440 --> 01:02:20,359
talk about it um uh and and be part of a

1444
01:02:20,359 --> 01:02:24,079
conversation here if if that's necessary

1445
01:02:24,079 --> 01:02:25,520
yeah so if we want to continue this

1446
01:02:25,520 --> 01:02:28,000
convers this topic I I think it is going

1447
01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:30,240
to need some fairly heavy hitting in a

1448
01:02:30,240 --> 01:02:32,079
very short time frame to make something

1449
01:02:32,079 --> 01:02:34,760
actually happen I mean as written up in

1450
01:02:34,760 --> 01:02:36,599
the paper last week when the landlords

1451
01:02:36,599 --> 01:02:38,440
discussed with the hospital they said we

1452
01:02:38,440 --> 01:02:40,319
made a decision know nothing to talk

1453
01:02:40,319 --> 01:02:41,400
about we're not going to talk any

1454
01:02:41,400 --> 01:02:43,680
numbers thanks for coming by I mean that

1455
01:02:43,680 --> 01:02:45,440
was basically the essence of the article

1456
01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:48,279
right U and on the other hand the

1457
01:02:48,279 --> 01:02:50,480
hospital is SE with the green M care

1458
01:02:50,480 --> 01:02:52,279
board decisions on our budget we can't

1459
01:02:52,279 --> 01:02:54,520
do anything so it seems to me this going

1460
01:02:54,520 --> 01:02:55,920
to have to get resolved with a political

1461
01:02:55,920 --> 01:02:58,160
level I mean the green M care board is

1462
01:02:58,160 --> 01:03:00,359
appointed by the governor right they got

1463
01:03:00,359 --> 01:03:02,200
a term which goes on for infinity or

1464
01:03:02,200 --> 01:03:04,640
something another four or five years but

1465
01:03:04,640 --> 01:03:05,920
presumably there's political pressure

1466
01:03:05,920 --> 01:03:07,520
can be brought to bear but it seems to

1467
01:03:07,520 --> 01:03:08,760
me that the only way we make a

1468
01:03:08,760 --> 01:03:11,440
difference is if we do get some kind of

1469
01:03:11,440 --> 01:03:13,319
I know task force or something that

1470
01:03:13,319 --> 01:03:16,079
represents the community all elements of

1471
01:03:16,079 --> 01:03:19,039
it and uh and basically brings in some

1472
01:03:19,039 --> 01:03:21,480
political support to start bashing heads

1473
01:03:21,480 --> 01:03:22,440
together because I don't think

1474
01:03:22,440 --> 01:03:24,160
anything's going to change otherwise uh

1475
01:03:24,160 --> 01:03:25,960
the note I sent around the other day

1476
01:03:25,960 --> 01:03:27,599
conversation my doctor suggests things

1477
01:03:27,599 --> 01:03:29,359
are going to happen very quickly like

1478
01:03:29,359 --> 01:03:31,279
staff are been given deadlines to decide

1479
01:03:31,279 --> 01:03:32,599
where they're going to go and once

1480
01:03:32,599 --> 01:03:33,640
they've gone they're not going to come

1481
01:03:33,640 --> 01:03:36,440
back right uh so I I think we need to

1482
01:03:36,440 --> 01:03:38,960
get on top of this before Christmas H so

1483
01:03:38,960 --> 01:03:40,400
I mean the opportunity of having someone

1484
01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:41,880
that knows what they're talking about is

1485
01:03:41,880 --> 01:03:43,559
a good idea but I think we need to form

1486
01:03:43,559 --> 01:03:45,839
some kind of group and I don't think it

1487
01:03:45,839 --> 01:03:47,960
should fall on Josh and Sam I think it

1488
01:03:47,960 --> 01:03:49,200
needs to be somewhere else but it does

1489
01:03:49,200 --> 01:03:52,119
need to represent the community so I

1490
01:03:52,119 --> 01:03:54,039
don't I don't know beyond that what the

1491
01:03:54,039 --> 01:03:57,119
answer is but I think it has to be done quickly and it has to be

1492
01:03:57,119 --> 01:03:59,559
a body that clearly represents the

1493
01:03:59,559 --> 01:04:04,319
community you know the valley and the building because it's got a

1494
01:04:04,319 --> 01:04:07,359
vested interest in success here uh but

1495
01:04:07,359 --> 01:04:08,880
it's probably the number one issue in

1496
01:04:08,880 --> 01:04:11,599
the community at the moment is why is

1497
01:04:11,599 --> 01:04:14,240
this happening how do we fix it when you

1498
01:04:14,240 --> 01:04:16,160
say it's a political issue I mean

1499
01:04:16,160 --> 01:04:18,119
obviously the legislature is not in

1500
01:04:18,119 --> 01:04:21,119
session now it's about to be you know

1501
01:04:21,119 --> 01:04:24,200
January 5th the the administration seems

1502
01:04:24,200 --> 01:04:25,960
to be in charge of green mind and care

1503
01:04:25,960 --> 01:04:28,160
Rob the legislature as I understand

1504
01:04:28,160 --> 01:04:31,599
it the the yes Phil Scott appoints the

1505
01:04:31,599 --> 01:04:32,839
Green Mountain care board the Green

1506
01:04:32,839 --> 01:04:34,480
Mountain care board has said to UVM

1507
01:04:34,480 --> 01:04:36,240
you've got to cut costs right they did

1508
01:04:36,240 --> 01:04:37,920
not say you've got to cut you've got to

1509
01:04:37,920 --> 01:04:39,920
take away the health center that's right

1510
01:04:39,920 --> 01:04:41,440
but you know they said you've got to cut

1511
01:04:41,440 --> 01:04:44,520
cost actually they said you have to cut

1512
01:04:44,520 --> 01:04:47,680
Revenue doesn't make any sense to me

1513
01:04:47,680 --> 01:04:49,960
cost that's the head scratcher but any

1514
01:04:49,960 --> 01:04:51,400
event it see it seemed to me the one

1515
01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:53,319
intervention that hasn't happened so far

1516
01:04:53,319 --> 01:04:54,480
is is with the

1517
01:04:54,480 --> 01:04:56,680
administration uh and just to find out

1518
01:04:56,680 --> 01:04:57,640
if there are any Leever there I don't

1519
01:04:57,640 --> 01:04:59,319
know if there are but well I think

1520
01:04:59,319 --> 01:05:02,039
that's where legis I mean it's I mean

1521
01:05:02,039 --> 01:05:04,599
this is like I could see the mrv PD yes

1522
01:05:04,599 --> 01:05:06,920
you like you convinced me last meeting

1523
01:05:06,920 --> 01:05:09,279
the mrv PD has a role I could see the

1524
01:05:09,279 --> 01:05:10,960
chamber having a role I could see the

1525
01:05:10,960 --> 01:05:12,920
board of the heal Center having a role I

1526
01:05:12,920 --> 01:05:15,000
mean it's kind of falling all it falls

1527
01:05:15,000 --> 01:05:17,480
in the middle of all these Community

1528
01:05:17,480 --> 01:05:20,359
organizations um but I wonder if trying

1529
01:05:20,359 --> 01:05:22,400
to get our legislators maybe they're

1530
01:05:22,400 --> 01:05:23,440
doing something I don't know what

1531
01:05:23,440 --> 01:05:26,359
they're they're not in session but that

1532
01:05:26,359 --> 01:05:29,359
I mean if you want to the Christmas shop

1533
01:05:29,359 --> 01:05:31,240
I don't know maybe has someone I mean I

1534
01:05:31,240 --> 01:05:32,799
think people have reached out to them

1535
01:05:32,799 --> 01:05:35,200
but as Brian said it's a Communications

1536
01:05:35,200 --> 01:05:36,640
thing right it's Communications and

1537
01:05:36,640 --> 01:05:39,480
coordination yes situation I think

1538
01:05:39,480 --> 01:05:41,680
everyone involved has received multiple

1539
01:05:41,680 --> 01:05:44,079
letters and emails on the topic but

1540
01:05:44,079 --> 01:05:45,960
coordinated Focus I don't think exists

1541
01:05:45,960 --> 01:05:46,960
at

1542
01:05:46,960 --> 01:05:51,760
point I'm one maybe a group of community

1543
01:05:51,760 --> 01:05:53,920
leaders should reach out and try to meet

1544
01:05:53,920 --> 01:05:55,760
with the governor and you know

1545
01:05:55,760 --> 01:05:57,240
Washington County senators are going to

1546
01:05:57,240 --> 01:05:59,039
be chairs of two money committees in the

1547
01:05:59,039 --> 01:06:02,640
Senate and I imagine they might have

1548
01:06:02,640 --> 01:06:06,150
some

1549
01:06:06,160 --> 01:06:09,829
sway I mean

1550
01:06:09,839 --> 01:06:11,960
they're don't don't do dagger IE at me

1551
01:06:11,960 --> 01:06:13,160
but there's a lot of leaders around this

1552
01:06:13,160 --> 01:06:17,480
table um and uh and but yeah I mean I

1553
01:06:17,480 --> 01:06:19,599
think it it takes a certain amount of

1554
01:06:19,599 --> 01:06:22,039
leadership and and and bandwidth to be

1555
01:06:22,039 --> 01:06:25,200
able to to do this right right now I

1556
01:06:25,200 --> 01:06:29,750
agree with your

1557
01:06:29,760 --> 01:06:31,720
assessment I mean certainly one of the

1558
01:06:31,720 --> 01:06:33,760
things we have three what we listen see

1559
01:06:33,760 --> 01:06:35,680
if two of our Senators are fairly long

1560
01:06:35,680 --> 01:06:37,599
term they know the RO andc comings in

1561
01:06:37,599 --> 01:06:39,279
particular I don't know if anyone's

1562
01:06:39,279 --> 01:06:42,400
reached out to her directly uh that's a

1563
01:06:42,400 --> 01:06:43,760
great question well I think we dropped

1564
01:06:43,760 --> 01:06:48,559
the ball on um the letter I don't

1565
01:06:48,559 --> 01:06:50,480
know still hasn't been signed by

1566
01:06:50,480 --> 01:06:51,599
everybody I'm going to put it on the

1567
01:06:51,599 --> 01:06:53,079
agenda on

1568
01:06:53,079 --> 01:06:56,319
Monday fa in now we signed off on it now

1569
01:06:56,319 --> 01:07:00,039
so Warren face sign we got Monday and he

1570
01:07:00,039 --> 01:07:03,279
letter okay and then I think you have

1571
01:07:03,279 --> 01:07:05,400
the letter yeah so maybe you can leave

1572
01:07:05,400 --> 01:07:07,480
it it again yeah oh you actually have

1573
01:07:07,480 --> 01:07:10,520
the physical well so I'll give you faens

1574
01:07:10,520 --> 01:07:13,119
and you can sign on there and then waren

1575
01:07:13,119 --> 01:07:17,160
we it was scanned okay so but we'll get

1576
01:07:17,160 --> 01:07:18,839
it yeah but just as a Thum BR want you

1577
01:07:18,839 --> 01:07:21,640
for letter her sign by the three bodies

1578
01:07:21,640 --> 01:07:23,680
I mean one of my suggestions was maybe

1579
01:07:23,680 --> 01:07:25,200
you as chair of this group you know

1580
01:07:25,200 --> 01:07:27,119
maybe say okay I've got this letter we

1581
01:07:27,119 --> 01:07:28,640
need some guidance on what to do next

1582
01:07:28,640 --> 01:07:31,400
and maybe gets call particularly because

1583
01:07:31,400 --> 01:07:33,440
she might be the

1584
01:07:33,440 --> 01:07:36,720
most well informed person and comings

1585
01:07:36,720 --> 01:07:37,880
because she's been around the longest if

1586
01:07:37,880 --> 01:07:38,920
you like in the

1587
01:07:38,920 --> 01:07:42,079
Senate yeah h i mean our two

1588
01:07:42,079 --> 01:07:44,039
representatives are both fairly new and

1589
01:07:44,039 --> 01:07:45,000
I don't think they particularly

1590
01:07:45,000 --> 01:07:46,279
influential I mean one of them hasn't

1591
01:07:46,279 --> 01:07:51,000
even sat in there yet so yeah uh and I I

1592
01:07:51,000 --> 01:07:53,400
just you know my previous thought was to

1593
01:07:53,400 --> 01:07:54,920
try and get a hold of the uh of the

1594
01:07:54,920 --> 01:07:56,200
hospital Administration which is who

1595
01:07:56,200 --> 01:07:58,400
we're sending a letter to but at the end

1596
01:07:58,400 --> 01:07:59,559
of the day I think they're going to

1597
01:07:59,559 --> 01:08:01,839
require some bigger hammers to hit

1598
01:08:01,839 --> 01:08:03,079
before they're going to do anything

1599
01:08:03,079 --> 01:08:05,559
based on what the uh the uh the health

1600
01:08:05,559 --> 01:08:08,119
clinic uh board found out from them

1601
01:08:08,119 --> 01:08:09,400
they're they're in transigent because

1602
01:08:09,400 --> 01:08:12,200
they say our hands hands are tied so

1603
01:08:12,200 --> 01:08:13,279
they're not going to do anything unless

1604
01:08:13,279 --> 01:08:14,760
someone tells them to or tells them the

1605
01:08:14,760 --> 01:08:16,679
rules are

1606
01:08:16,679 --> 01:08:19,000
changed and the one thing that our

1607
01:08:19,000 --> 01:08:21,080
Representatives could do is reach out to

1608
01:08:21,080 --> 01:08:22,719
appropriate chairs are going to be

1609
01:08:22,719 --> 01:08:25,560
changing but to leadership in the in the

1610
01:08:25,560 --> 01:08:27,080
house too to say this is a real

1611
01:08:27,080 --> 01:08:30,080
important Community issue and maybe

1612
01:08:30,080 --> 01:08:32,839
convening some kind

1613
01:08:32,839 --> 01:08:35,239
of I I don't I don't have the bandwidth

1614
01:08:35,239 --> 01:08:37,120
or really the knowledge I don't

1615
01:08:37,120 --> 01:08:41,319
understand healthc care at all I own any

1616
01:08:41,319 --> 01:08:42,319
I mean there's a lot of people we could

1617
01:08:42,319 --> 01:08:43,400
reach out to we could reach out to the

1618
01:08:43,400 --> 01:08:45,319
cboard yes you know we could reach out

1619
01:08:45,319 --> 01:08:46,560
you know like you know we could reach

1620
01:08:46,560 --> 01:08:48,520
out to the governor we could reach out

1621
01:08:48,520 --> 01:08:51,279
tocs I think the real problem is that

1622
01:08:51,279 --> 01:08:53,520
this is the decision that they all

1623
01:08:53,520 --> 01:08:55,159
really wanted to make and this is just

1624
01:08:55,159 --> 01:08:57,120
the big Le that they're using to make

1625
01:08:57,120 --> 01:08:59,920
the decision I don't think it's like oh

1626
01:08:59,920 --> 01:09:02,000
we have to do this now I think it's like

1627
01:09:02,000 --> 01:09:03,359
no now we can do

1628
01:09:03,359 --> 01:09:06,719
this uh so you

1629
01:09:06,719 --> 01:09:09,560
know I I realized long ago when I got

1630
01:09:09,560 --> 01:09:11,719
fired by a client that he already made

1631
01:09:11,719 --> 01:09:14,040
his decision he didn't want to hear my

1632
01:09:14,040 --> 01:09:16,799
excuse or my reasoning or whatever it

1633
01:09:16,799 --> 01:09:19,239
was he'd already moved

1634
01:09:19,239 --> 01:09:21,400
on these guys have moved on they've

1635
01:09:21,400 --> 01:09:23,640
already made decisions they've already

1636
01:09:23,640 --> 01:09:27,400
uh reprogrammed their there people it's

1637
01:09:27,400 --> 01:09:30,319
all done it's a done deal and I I don't

1638
01:09:30,319 --> 01:09:32,880
believe there is a reversing of this

1639
01:09:32,880 --> 01:09:37,120
course that's my take my take as well it

1640
01:09:37,120 --> 01:09:38,799
certainly seems that way but I think it

1641
01:09:38,799 --> 01:09:44,560
would be negligent of us to not try to see if we can have an influence it's

1642
01:09:44,560 --> 01:09:46,520
Christmas and we're about 10 days from

1643
01:09:46,520 --> 01:09:49,199
Christmas and you're saying it needs to

1644
01:09:49,199 --> 01:09:51,159
be done by Christmas and I don't see it

1645
01:09:51,159 --> 01:09:53,279
happening Peter I just don't think

1646
01:09:53,279 --> 01:09:56,080
there's that the ground swell of is out

1647
01:09:56,080 --> 01:09:59,520
there but the ground swell of directed

1648
01:09:59,520 --> 01:10:03,040
Focus isn't I I just I don't see it

1649
01:10:03,040 --> 01:10:05,239
happening so your read is that the that

1650
01:10:05,239 --> 01:10:08,520
UVM the medical center made the decision

1651
01:10:08,520 --> 01:10:11,400
regardless of care it was it was a it

1652
01:10:11,400 --> 01:10:12,960
was just what they needed to make a

1653
01:10:12,960 --> 01:10:15,360
decision they wanted to make

1654
01:10:15,360 --> 01:10:17,840
already this was a great thing to hide

1655
01:10:17,840 --> 01:10:19,600
behind for was political cover for them

1656
01:10:19,600 --> 01:10:23,719
to you know cut this corner and and pull

1657
01:10:23,719 --> 01:10:25,880
in their their for

1658
01:10:25,880 --> 01:10:28,480
and put their money

1659
01:10:28,480 --> 01:10:30,760
elsewhere and to say to the cboard you

1660
01:10:30,760 --> 01:10:32,920
squeeze us we'll squeeze your right back

1661
01:10:32,920 --> 01:10:36,719
yeah and it's a and it's a it's a

1662
01:10:36,719 --> 01:10:38,800
little without without getting too

1663
01:10:38,800 --> 01:10:41,920
colorful it's it's what what uh big boys

1664
01:10:41,920 --> 01:10:44,360
do in the sandbox right it's you know

1665
01:10:44,360 --> 01:10:47,440
there's a little bit of uh BS going on

1666
01:10:47,440 --> 01:10:50,280
yeah yeah you know and I don't know to

1667
01:10:50,280 --> 01:10:52,480
what extent uh that that's all happening

1668
01:10:52,480 --> 01:10:53,760
you know they just signed a two-year

1669
01:10:53,760 --> 01:10:55,679
lease at the hell Cent before this

1670
01:10:55,679 --> 01:10:59,400
announcement was made um there's other

1671
01:10:59,400 --> 01:11:01,800
things that haven't been on this the

1672
01:11:01,800 --> 01:11:04,239
hospital board up until this this past

1673
01:11:04,239 --> 01:11:07,320
summer um I can tell you that there's

1674
01:11:07,320 --> 01:11:08,679
some things that the Green Mountain care

1675
01:11:08,679 --> 01:11:11,640
board did like there was reimbursements

1676
01:11:11,640 --> 01:11:16,080
for uh Co money that the hospital got

1677
01:11:16,080 --> 01:11:18,080
was over a million something dollars

1678
01:11:18,080 --> 01:11:20,760
that got included in the

1679
01:11:20,760 --> 01:11:24,239
revenue uh area that inflated the

1680
01:11:24,239 --> 01:11:26,320
revenue and this is why now the focus is

1681
01:11:26,320 --> 01:11:28,840
on the you know looking at the revenue

1682
01:11:28,840 --> 01:11:31,239
because we get too much revenue it it's

1683
01:11:31,239 --> 01:11:32,239
so

1684
01:11:32,239 --> 01:11:35,679
convoluted um I can't say that I totally

1685
01:11:35,679 --> 01:11:36,960
understand it and there are so many

1686
01:11:36,960 --> 01:11:39,400
aspects to it we don't have Focus I

1687
01:11:39,400 --> 01:11:41,120
guess that's what I was getting at with

1688
01:11:41,120 --> 01:11:43,760
you know Sue saying who can I help yeah

1689
01:11:43,760 --> 01:11:46,719
there's nobody here that has that Focus

1690
01:11:46,719 --> 01:11:48,639
it's 10 days before Christmas you know

1691
01:11:48,639 --> 01:11:51,639
all of that stuff so I I don't know

1692
01:11:51,639 --> 01:11:54,320
where it all stands what we can do

1693
01:11:54,320 --> 01:11:56,480
beyond what we've done

1694
01:11:56,480 --> 01:12:00,199
um it's it's a difficult

1695
01:12:00,199 --> 01:12:03,639
situation you know I mean if if if if

1696
01:12:03,639 --> 01:12:07,040
the idea is retail to an Cummings like

1697
01:12:07,040 --> 01:12:09,400
my wife from the legislative internship

1698
01:12:09,400 --> 01:12:11,280
the UVM legislative internship program

1699
01:12:11,280 --> 01:12:13,679
I'm sure she knows an Cummings I me let

1700
01:12:13,679 --> 01:12:15,400
can say an Cummings is there anything we

1701
01:12:15,400 --> 01:12:19,760
can do but you know be on you know ask

1702
01:12:19,760 --> 01:12:23,679
but I don't you know I I'm if you think

1703
01:12:23,679 --> 01:12:26,000
that would be useful I'll happy to ask

1704
01:12:26,000 --> 01:12:29,880
Liz to ask an coming but that's hardly

1705
01:12:29,880 --> 01:12:36,480
um uh you know that's an ask not a not governor Scott saying damn it open

1706
01:12:36,480 --> 01:12:39,320
the clinic or you

1707
01:12:39,320 --> 01:12:41,560
know that would help or else that would

1708
01:12:41,560 --> 01:12:45,040
help that would help or else Bri we're

1709
01:12:45,040 --> 01:12:46,639
going to ask briam and women's to come

1710
01:12:46,639 --> 01:12:48,600
up here and open up a rival hospital

1711
01:12:48,600 --> 01:12:52,950
system and see see how much you like

1712
01:12:52,960 --> 01:12:56,159
that or Mass general come you know or

1713
01:12:56,159 --> 01:12:58,440
whoever else get get another from what I

1714
01:12:58,440 --> 01:13:00,560
read Dartmouth hedgeh coock is in the

1715
01:13:00,560 --> 01:13:02,840
same kind of boat as UVM and trying to

1716
01:13:02,840 --> 01:13:05,080
figure out all these little far-flung

1717
01:13:05,080 --> 01:13:09,120
entities that they're controlling so I

1718
01:13:09,120 --> 01:13:11,199
would invite them up in a heartbeat but

1719
01:13:11,199 --> 01:13:16,990
uh they got their hands full too good

1720
01:13:17,000 --> 01:13:19,280
point yeah I mean there's no doubt that

1721
01:13:19,280 --> 01:13:22,199
this is happening in the midst of our

1722
01:13:22,199 --> 01:13:25,760
Health Care system in Vermont you know

1723
01:13:25,760 --> 01:13:27,600
on the precipice have collapsed

1724
01:13:27,600 --> 01:13:31,040
basically MH you know it really is MH

1725
01:13:31,040 --> 01:13:33,120
not just Vermont it's everywhere I mean

1726
01:13:33,120 --> 01:13:38,120
it's such a I hate to sound defe but you

1727
01:13:38,120 --> 01:13:41,080
know the whole system is broken and this

1728
01:13:41,080 --> 01:13:46,400
is just a very very very very very tiny tiny part of it but we have uni I

1729
01:13:46,400 --> 01:13:48,440
mean we have uniquely small population

1730
01:13:48,440 --> 01:13:51,679
and a uniquely old population um and a

1731
01:13:51,679 --> 01:13:54,880
uniquely spread out population so of

1732
01:13:54,880 --> 01:13:57,000
those things are

1733
01:13:57,000 --> 01:13:59,600
helpful people in the Valley now have to

1734
01:13:59,600 --> 01:14:00,679
travel

1735
01:14:00,679 --> 01:14:03,480
to waterg

1736
01:14:03,480 --> 01:14:08,440
m i mean I not anyway I had to travel I

1737
01:14:08,440 --> 01:14:10,600
have to travel to Utah for my health

1738
01:14:10,600 --> 01:14:12,600
care so driving to waterb would seem

1739
01:14:12,600 --> 01:14:15,040
like really pretty good deal for me I

1740
01:14:15,040 --> 01:14:18,040
mean like I'm my insurance is in Utah my

1741
01:14:18,040 --> 01:14:22,679
wife has recurring cancer and and and

1742
01:14:22,679 --> 01:14:24,639
you know we can't change our health

1743
01:14:24,639 --> 01:14:27,000
insurance and so my health insurance is

1744
01:14:27,000 --> 01:14:33,679
in Utah I can't go to water I I I got I I need to you know I have to go back

1745
01:14:33,679 --> 01:14:37,080
to Utah for for any sort of any

1746
01:14:37,080 --> 01:14:38,880
nonmedical

1747
01:14:38,880 --> 01:14:42,520
emergency um I had to pay out of

1748
01:14:42,520 --> 01:14:45,560
pocket it's I mean our whole Health Care

1749
01:14:45,560 --> 01:14:47,199
system is just it's all screwed up I

1750
01:14:47,199 --> 01:14:49,320
agree but at the same time I I think it

1751
01:14:49,320 --> 01:14:52,159
would be it would be silly of us not to

1752
01:14:52,159 --> 01:14:53,639
at least take the opportunity to bring

1753
01:14:53,639 --> 01:14:56,880
the politicians into this uh and I think

1754
01:14:56,880 --> 01:14:58,360
approaching an and specifically

1755
01:14:58,360 --> 01:14:59,840
approaching an in the context of how to

1756
01:14:59,840 --> 01:15:01,120
bring this to government's attention and

1757
01:15:01,120 --> 01:15:03,719
see what levers he has to play because

1758
01:15:03,719 --> 01:15:07,199
it appears that either green M care or

1759
01:15:07,199 --> 01:15:09,360
the hospital ownership is not going to

1760
01:15:09,360 --> 01:15:10,840
make any changes unless someone puts

1761
01:15:10,840 --> 01:15:12,679
some some pressure on them whether there

1762
01:15:12,679 --> 01:15:14,120
is any pressure that can be exerted I

1763
01:15:14,120 --> 01:15:16,320
don't know but if it has if it's going

1764
01:15:16,320 --> 01:15:17,560
to happen it's going to have to happen

1765
01:15:17,560 --> 01:15:19,960
quickly otherwise it's a Fed comp was

1766
01:15:19,960 --> 01:15:21,719
already a Fed compete but it hasn't been

1767
01:15:21,719 --> 01:15:25,000
fully implemented yet well we were ceas

1768
01:15:25,000 --> 01:15:27,080
seeing everybody on the letter we could

1769
01:15:27,080 --> 01:15:29,280
follow up yeah I me that was that was my

1770
01:15:29,280 --> 01:15:30,760
thought of once the letter goes out is

1771
01:15:30,760 --> 01:15:32,719
to and I was just think suggesting of

1772
01:15:32,719 --> 01:15:35,000
that Focus point I think rather than the

1773
01:15:35,000 --> 01:15:36,719
dealing with the perpetrators trying to

1774
01:15:36,719 --> 01:15:38,600
deal with the Pol politician side first

1775
01:15:38,600 --> 01:15:40,520
I'd be i' know an fairly well would be

1776
01:15:40,520 --> 01:15:41,840
glad to reach out for that would be a

1777
01:15:41,840 --> 01:15:43,920
better reach out um just see see what

1778
01:15:43,920 --> 01:15:46,639
her take is on it and yeah but I It just

1779
01:15:46,639 --> 01:15:48,080
strikes me this is one of the things

1780
01:15:48,080 --> 01:15:49,880
where we could potentially get the

1781
01:15:49,880 --> 01:15:53,239
governor's ear uh I mean this is a a

1782
01:15:53,239 --> 01:15:55,000
Major Impact in this community I'm not

1783
01:15:55,000 --> 01:15:57,040
got to reach out to the

1784
01:15:57,040 --> 01:16:00,480
governor and and could help us with that

1785
01:16:00,480 --> 01:16:02,000
the governor's relationship with the

1786
01:16:02,000 --> 01:16:07,560
legislature is not pleasant but

1787
01:16:07,560 --> 01:16:14,350
perhaps maybe better than others

1788
01:16:14,360 --> 01:16:19,080
yeah so where were you on the work

1789
01:16:19,080 --> 01:16:21,600
sorry so I mean I think this is a

1790
01:16:21,600 --> 01:16:24,440
conversation that isn't a next fiscal

1791
01:16:24,440 --> 01:16:26,320
year work plan conversation something

1792
01:16:26,320 --> 01:16:28,880
that we ought to so next week we F isue

1793
01:16:28,880 --> 01:16:31,199
yeah and I will give an a call tomorrow

1794
01:16:31,199 --> 01:16:32,679
but I I just want to emph I don't think

1795
01:16:32,679 --> 01:16:34,800
this is job we should be looking to Josh

1796
01:16:34,800 --> 01:16:36,760
and and St to look after it's really

1797
01:16:36,760 --> 01:16:39,360
something that yeah the committee should

1798
01:16:39,360 --> 01:16:42,480
be looking after so it so one comment I

1799
01:16:42,480 --> 01:16:44,840
have is I I have been an advocate for

1800
01:16:44,840 --> 01:16:46,120
some involvement in the community

1801
01:16:46,120 --> 01:16:49,000
recreation visioning process and um I

1802
01:16:49,000 --> 01:16:50,400
know Phil has

1803
01:16:50,400 --> 01:16:52,840
requested

1804
01:16:52,840 --> 01:16:56,760
cons nice job

1805
01:16:56,760 --> 01:17:01,990
it on your it's reading what I wrote but

1806
01:17:02,000 --> 01:17:04,600
like but I don't you know I I don't see

1807
01:17:04,600 --> 01:17:06,920
it as running the thing yeah you know

1808
01:17:06,920 --> 01:17:08,719
but I think if it's like periodic

1809
01:17:08,719 --> 01:17:14,080
facilitation and I think the desire that they have for the planning district

1810
01:17:14,080 --> 01:17:16,040
is that we have a unique perspective in

1811
01:17:16,040 --> 01:17:18,679
balancing our Recreation economy with

1812
01:17:18,679 --> 01:17:21,000
our you know our natural resource

1813
01:17:21,000 --> 01:17:24,960
conservation and that kind of big

1814
01:17:24,960 --> 01:17:26,960
picture is a helpful perspective to have

1815
01:17:26,960 --> 01:17:29,800
at those meetings that's why i' advocate

1816
01:17:29,800 --> 01:17:33,360
for it yeah and when I'm thank you Brian

1817
01:17:33,360 --> 01:17:36,440
and yeah when Sam like looking at the

1818
01:17:36,440 --> 01:17:38,800
work plan there's essentially the things

1819
01:17:38,800 --> 01:17:41,159
that were taken off the plate or none of

1820
01:17:41,159 --> 01:17:41,960
my

1821
01:17:41,960 --> 01:17:48,159
things uh and they were Sam's things so Sam's potential involvement uh in

1822
01:17:48,159 --> 01:17:51,880
that work and um

1823
01:17:51,880 --> 01:17:54,360
so it's a conversation with them that I

1824
01:17:54,360 --> 01:17:59,400
think is worth continuing to explore and I do think that we have an important

1825
01:17:59,400 --> 01:18:04,760
perspective uh and and I mean we led a

1826
01:18:04,760 --> 01:18:07,159
um a collaborative Recreation and Trail

1827
01:18:07,159 --> 01:18:08,760
organizations in the valley which was

1828
01:18:08,760 --> 01:18:11,480
the precursor to this um I I led that

1829
01:18:11,480 --> 01:18:14,440
effort for a good number of years um I

1830
01:18:14,440 --> 01:18:19,280
guess about a decade um uh so uh yeah I

1831
01:18:19,280 --> 01:18:21,679
mean our our lack of involvement is is

1832
01:18:21,679 --> 01:18:24,199
heard um and it's mostly and and it's

1833
01:18:24,199 --> 01:18:27,440
come true because we're our energy is

1834
01:18:27,440 --> 01:18:30,360
elsewhere um not not because we don't

1835
01:18:30,360 --> 01:18:32,760
want to be involved and i' I've tried to

1836
01:18:32,760 --> 01:18:34,800
make that as as clear as possible in the

1837
01:18:34,800 --> 01:18:37,719
conversations before um I mean this this

1838
01:18:37,719 --> 01:18:40,800
is this is possible uh this work again

1839
01:18:40,800 --> 01:18:42,480
those items to explore being the sort of

1840
01:18:42,480 --> 01:18:44,960
like question mark but um obviously it's

1841
01:18:44,960 --> 01:18:49,239
possible uh this isn't a a big reach

1842
01:18:49,239 --> 01:18:50,760
it's a work plan that

1843
01:18:50,760 --> 01:18:53,080
essentially anticipates that it's the

1844
01:18:53,080 --> 01:18:54,560
tool of us doing the work which I think

1845
01:18:54,560 --> 01:18:56,600
is an important important consideration

1846
01:18:56,600 --> 01:18:58,280
we're not looking at adding another

1847
01:18:58,280 --> 01:19:00,159
staff member we're not looking at going

1848
01:19:00,159 --> 01:19:01,719
down to one staff member we're not

1849
01:19:01,719 --> 01:19:04,920
looking at at at a really a huge shakeup

1850
01:19:04,920 --> 01:19:07,960
uh here in our in our operations um with

1851
01:19:07,960 --> 01:19:10,239
this but again it's it's always been

1852
01:19:10,239 --> 01:19:12,040
important to me that the steering

1853
01:19:12,040 --> 01:19:14,199
committee is very much a part of the

1854
01:19:14,199 --> 01:19:16,440
work plan obviously we we do the

1855
01:19:16,440 --> 01:19:18,880
majority uh of of the implementation of

1856
01:19:18,880 --> 01:19:21,320
this work um but it's really important

1857
01:19:21,320 --> 01:19:23,960
that when we're you know I I never want

1858
01:19:23,960 --> 01:19:25,360
to be in a position position when we're

1859
01:19:25,360 --> 01:19:26,719
6 months you know we're in the middle of

1860
01:19:26,719 --> 01:19:27,719
the summer or something and we're

1861
01:19:27,719 --> 01:19:29,560
working on a project and the steering

1862
01:19:29,560 --> 01:19:30,840
committee steering committee memb is

1863
01:19:30,840 --> 01:19:32,040
like what the heck are you doing that

1864
01:19:32,040 --> 01:19:37,639
for um right I mean it's important that that we all collectively agree uh

1865
01:19:37,639 --> 01:19:39,760
to this work and are supportive of it

1866
01:19:39,760 --> 01:19:41,960
through through the year um and if there

1867
01:19:41,960 --> 01:19:44,560
are some ways to shift it uh shift

1868
01:19:44,560 --> 01:19:47,320
perspective I I don't see this as a a

1869
01:19:47,320 --> 01:19:49,960
perspective shift in year um there have

1870
01:19:49,960 --> 01:19:51,679
been times where where that's absolutely

1871
01:19:51,679 --> 01:19:54,159
been the case um but we have a lot of

1872
01:19:54,159 --> 01:19:55,320
things in

1873
01:19:55,320 --> 01:19:57,800
that I think uh that I think it's worth

1874
01:19:57,800 --> 01:20:00,159
continuing to see them through and and

1875
01:20:00,159 --> 01:20:03,199
I'm I'm I don't want to I don't I'm not

1876
01:20:03,199 --> 01:20:05,080
looking for a a question but the when

1877
01:20:05,080 --> 01:20:08,840
you say support that varies greatly

1878
01:20:08,840 --> 01:20:11,159
support the r rural Resource Commission

1879
01:20:11,159 --> 01:20:13,400
is pretty much do the work and

1880
01:20:13,400 --> 01:20:17,760
coordinate it support the uh um 117

1881
01:20:17,760 --> 01:20:19,080
there's going to be an engineer who's

1882
01:20:19,080 --> 01:20:20,520
going to be you know who's going to be

1883
01:20:20,520 --> 01:20:23,360
helping the logistics and meetings right

1884
01:20:23,360 --> 01:20:26,080
and whatnot but uh

1885
01:20:26,080 --> 01:20:28,840
less less involved as opposed to

1886
01:20:28,840 --> 01:20:30,360
Wastewater project which is very

1887
01:20:30,360 --> 01:20:32,800
involved right yeah yeah yeah great

1888
01:20:32,800 --> 01:20:35,960
Point Brian and and um I didn't do this

1889
01:20:35,960 --> 01:20:37,960
level of analysis this time around but

1890
01:20:37,960 --> 01:20:40,400
what we what we we did last year and and

1891
01:20:40,400 --> 01:20:42,080
did the year before was literally went

1892
01:20:42,080 --> 01:20:46,000
through and uh and I a spreadsheet of of

1893
01:20:46,000 --> 01:20:48,120
how many hours is Sam and how many is me

1894
01:20:48,120 --> 01:20:50,440
and like I getting into that granularity

1895
01:20:50,440 --> 01:20:52,199
of what does it mean to be involved in

1896
01:20:52,199 --> 01:20:53,560
these things obviously they're not all

1897
01:20:53,560 --> 01:20:56,000
the same same Lev and yeah I can use

1898
01:20:56,000 --> 01:20:58,600
support or collaborate or you know so on

1899
01:20:58,600 --> 01:21:01,840
and so forth um interchangeably but the

1900
01:21:01,840 --> 01:21:05,560
reality is that there's different levels of of different roles

1901
01:21:05,560 --> 01:21:08,000
to play uh with with different projects

1902
01:21:08,000 --> 01:21:09,679
will you be doing that next step shortly

1903
01:21:09,679 --> 01:21:13,239
in terms of the spreadsheet I could uh

1904
01:21:13,239 --> 01:21:15,440
if necessary but to be honest I don't

1905
01:21:15,440 --> 01:21:17,480
think it's necessary okay yeah I think

1906
01:21:17,480 --> 01:21:20,600
it would be a lot more effort than in

1907
01:21:20,600 --> 01:21:22,199
reality is going to come and interfere

1908
01:21:22,199 --> 01:21:23,320
with it

1909
01:21:23,320 --> 01:21:26,960
anyhow and been doing it for 16 years so

1910
01:21:26,960 --> 01:21:30,360
like kind of at yeah um but but it was a

1911
01:21:30,360 --> 01:21:32,880
really great exercise uh last year for

1912
01:21:32,880 --> 01:21:34,679
samon to go through from my from my

1913
01:21:34,679 --> 01:21:36,360
perspective of like sort of working

1914
01:21:36,360 --> 01:21:38,080
through and being like okay so what does

1915
01:21:38,080 --> 01:21:40,000
it take it it let's be really cognizant

1916
01:21:40,000 --> 01:21:42,360
about um that amount of time so we

1917
01:21:42,360 --> 01:21:44,600
should probably be moving towards the

1918
01:21:44,600 --> 01:21:49,280
budget sounds great yes oh

1919
01:21:49,280 --> 01:21:52,440
look do you

1920
01:21:52,440 --> 01:21:55,400
know so the next agenda item is the

1921
01:21:55,400 --> 01:21:59,360
budget um so

1922
01:21:59,360 --> 01:22:03,639
um years passed um so little bit of

1923
01:22:03,639 --> 01:22:06,520
context so in my tenure since 2008 uh

1924
01:22:06,520 --> 01:22:10,120
when I started here um

1925
01:22:10,120 --> 01:22:12,639
the a lot of the origins of the planning

1926
01:22:12,639 --> 01:22:14,639
district grew out of the central Vermont

1927
01:22:14,639 --> 01:22:18,000
Regional Planning Commission and uh and

1928
01:22:18,000 --> 01:22:20,199
they uh they had a staff member there

1929
01:22:20,199 --> 01:22:23,120
who who served essentially the planning

1930
01:22:23,120 --> 01:22:25,199
district um Lori emry

1931
01:22:25,199 --> 01:22:26,880
uh

1932
01:22:26,880 --> 01:22:31,600
for from from the beginning from 1985 to

1933
01:22:31,600 --> 01:22:36,679
200 12 somewhere in there um 11 or 12

1934
01:22:36,679 --> 01:22:38,440
and uh and she attended meetings and

1935
01:22:38,440 --> 01:22:43,400
took minutes she also um so so she was

1936
01:22:43,400 --> 01:22:46,400
um she was the secretary at cbpc I can't

1937
01:22:46,400 --> 01:22:48,760
remember what her in her her title was

1938
01:22:48,760 --> 01:22:50,840
but that she was referred to um but she

1939
01:22:50,840 --> 01:22:53,520
did a lot more than that and she also

1940
01:22:53,520 --> 01:22:55,080
played that role

1941
01:22:55,080 --> 01:22:57,600
the not only with minutes um in

1942
01:22:57,600 --> 01:23:00,000
attending our meetings um and it's an

1943
01:23:00,000 --> 01:23:02,199
incredible institutional knowledge but

1944
01:23:02,199 --> 01:23:05,960
Lori also through CPC did our books and

1945
01:23:05,960 --> 01:23:08,600
so when I was hired in 2008 Lori was the

1946
01:23:08,600 --> 01:23:10,600
person who who who did all the

1947
01:23:10,600 --> 01:23:12,199
administrative work so everything from

1948
01:23:12,199 --> 01:23:15,280
writing the books to you know grants to

1949
01:23:15,280 --> 01:23:18,480
um HR all of that was was essentially a

1950
01:23:18,480 --> 01:23:19,360
service that

1951
01:23:19,360 --> 01:23:21,840
cvpc um provided for the planning

1952
01:23:21,840 --> 01:23:25,199
district um and that continued

1953
01:23:25,199 --> 01:23:29,040
um uh Lori retired um uh and

1954
01:23:29,040 --> 01:23:30,960
subsequently within a year um passed

1955
01:23:30,960 --> 01:23:35,920
away uh with cancer um uh but handful of

1956
01:23:35,920 --> 01:23:39,960
years later under a change of cvpc um

1957
01:23:39,960 --> 01:23:43,120
they're essentially became a a request

1958
01:23:43,120 --> 01:23:46,040
or or we were told uh that they were no

1959
01:23:46,040 --> 01:23:47,960
longer going to do that and it was up to

1960
01:23:47,960 --> 01:23:50,239
the planning district to run its own

1961
01:23:50,239 --> 01:23:52,440
financials so on and so forth and

1962
01:23:52,440 --> 01:23:53,719
everything from like our Personnel

1963
01:23:53,719 --> 01:23:55,480
policies were there Personnel policies

1964
01:23:55,480 --> 01:23:58,719
and um and so that was a break around

1965
01:23:58,719 --> 01:24:02,920
2014 or so um and and that's fine right

1966
01:24:02,920 --> 01:24:05,080
our organization had sort of been under

1967
01:24:05,080 --> 01:24:07,280
the wing of cvpc for a long time and

1968
01:24:07,280 --> 01:24:09,480
then we are in a position of of of

1969
01:24:09,480 --> 01:24:12,880
leading um in in taking up uh that

1970
01:24:12,880 --> 01:24:16,400
responsibility and uh Bob was the CH I

1971
01:24:16,400 --> 01:24:18,000
don't think he was the chair at the very

1972
01:24:18,000 --> 01:24:21,280
beginning um but uh but soon thereafter

1973
01:24:21,280 --> 01:24:23,000
Bob Akin became the chair of the plan

1974
01:24:23,000 --> 01:24:26,600
district and um and Bob was the person

1975
01:24:26,600 --> 01:24:29,520
who sort of took over um when it comes

1976
01:24:29,520 --> 01:24:32,560
to the financials so Bob was in charge

1977
01:24:32,560 --> 01:24:35,480
um took over the financials uh budgeting

1978
01:24:35,480 --> 01:24:38,480
so on and so forth and it was and and

1979
01:24:38,480 --> 01:24:39,880
that's what he did and my in my

1980
01:24:39,880 --> 01:24:41,840
involvement I became more involved than

1981
01:24:41,840 --> 01:24:44,600
I was when cvpc was involved um and

1982
01:24:44,600 --> 01:24:51,080
leading but um it was Bob show uh and honestly I was fine with it because

1983
01:24:51,080 --> 01:24:52,800
he was he was doing it and I was doing

1984
01:24:52,800 --> 01:24:54,440
the planning work and that that that

1985
01:24:54,440 --> 01:24:57,520
seem to be fine um uh so fast forward to

1986
01:24:57,520 --> 01:24:59,440
where we are now prob longer on the

1987
01:24:59,440 --> 01:25:02,800
planing District um uh and I've been

1988
01:25:02,800 --> 01:25:06,800
taking over uh uh that role primarily

1989
01:25:06,800 --> 01:25:09,199
and which is required as there is

1990
01:25:09,199 --> 01:25:11,920
transition any time uh from one to

1991
01:25:11,920 --> 01:25:15,440
another um start understanding the way

1992
01:25:15,440 --> 01:25:19,480
things were done and

1993
01:25:19,480 --> 01:25:21,719
um the planning district votes on a

1994
01:25:21,719 --> 01:25:25,280
budget every year uh and 90% of our

1995
01:25:25,280 --> 01:25:30,119
budget is is uh payroll um staff uh

1996
01:25:30,119 --> 01:25:33,639
related uh costs and we're funded

1997
01:25:33,639 --> 01:25:35,960
through our our four funders uh as the

1998
01:25:35,960 --> 01:25:37,639
income

1999
01:25:37,639 --> 01:25:41,320
and the last couple years when Bob was

2000
01:25:41,320 --> 01:25:44,280
doing the budgeting um he didn't provide

2001
01:25:44,280 --> 01:25:47,960
as much detail as many of us would like

2002
01:25:47,960 --> 01:25:49,639
and so we were getting the sort of

2003
01:25:49,639 --> 01:25:51,800
larger summary numbers of things like

2004
01:25:51,800 --> 01:25:53,840
payroll um which again is is the

2005
01:25:53,840 --> 01:25:57,880
majority of work and in this so since

2006
01:25:57,880 --> 01:26:00,000
I've been back since the beginning of

2007
01:26:00,000 --> 01:26:04,760
June or middle of June July um Chuck uh

2008
01:26:04,760 --> 01:26:06,800
Sam and I have have been sort of

2009
01:26:06,800 --> 01:26:08,600
exploring okay so how are things done

2010
01:26:08,600 --> 01:26:11,719
before um and where are things and so

2011
01:26:11,719 --> 01:26:14,840
generally we use Quick Books online uh

2012
01:26:14,840 --> 01:26:18,400
we have a bookkeeper have Holland Holden

2013
01:26:18,400 --> 01:26:21,159
they do very they're very minimal

2014
01:26:21,159 --> 01:26:26,000
involvement um uh they they re recile

2015
01:26:26,000 --> 01:26:29,679
um not all that often uh and sort of

2016
01:26:29,679 --> 01:26:31,440
process the checks that the processing

2017
01:26:31,440 --> 01:26:34,800
side happens here but the larger role of

2018
01:26:34,800 --> 01:26:36,719
kind of the CFO role of kind of like

2019
01:26:36,719 --> 01:26:40,400
where are we financially and and uh they

2020
01:26:40,400 --> 01:26:41,800
don't do that that was something that

2021
01:26:41,800 --> 01:26:44,560
Bob did and then managing QuickBooks

2022
01:26:44,560 --> 01:26:46,320
they don't do that that's something Bob

2023
01:26:46,320 --> 01:26:49,080
did so we've been sort of bumping our

2024
01:26:49,080 --> 01:26:51,920
way through figuring those things out um

2025
01:26:51,920 --> 01:26:53,960
so for this year uh to put together a

2026
01:26:53,960 --> 01:26:56,719
budget for our upcoming fiscal year

2027
01:26:56,719 --> 01:26:59,560
required understanding what got us here

2028
01:26:59,560 --> 01:27:02,040
understanding where our accounts are uh

2029
01:27:02,040 --> 01:27:03,639
and and understand where we are to date

2030
01:27:03,639 --> 01:27:05,920
in this particular year and in doing

2031
01:27:05,920 --> 01:27:10,679
that um I learned some things so um I

2032
01:27:10,679 --> 01:27:13,520
have printed copies too which I don't

2033
01:27:13,520 --> 01:27:15,239
even think that font's even easier to

2034
01:27:15,239 --> 01:27:17,119
read see than that but I can zoom in as

2035
01:27:17,119 --> 01:27:21,119
well um but what you see here um are a

2036
01:27:21,119 --> 01:27:26,320
handful of things um one is the um

2037
01:27:26,320 --> 01:27:29,480
fiscal year 2025 approved budget so this

2038
01:27:29,480 --> 01:27:31,040
is what was approved by the steering

2039
01:27:31,040 --> 01:27:33,880
committee uh last December December 21st

2040
01:27:33,880 --> 01:27:36,080
I believe the year-to date fiscal year

2041
01:27:36,080 --> 01:27:39,920
2025 actuals so that's through the end

2042
01:27:39,920 --> 01:27:42,000
of

2043
01:27:42,000 --> 01:27:44,480
November which one yeah so there there

2044
01:27:44,480 --> 01:27:46,639
were like some that had a larger font

2045
01:27:46,639 --> 01:27:48,159
because I did some they were really

2046
01:27:48,159 --> 01:27:51,119
small all just one page right yeah okay

2047
01:27:51,119 --> 01:27:55,719
um uh and so we have actuals we have

2048
01:27:55,719 --> 01:27:57,320
projected totals to the end of the year

2049
01:27:57,320 --> 01:28:00,960
2025 and then a fiscal year 2026 so I

2050
01:28:00,960 --> 01:28:02,560
know it's hard but try not to look at

2051
01:28:02,560 --> 01:28:04,440
2026 yet because I want to make our way

2052
01:28:04,440 --> 01:28:10,920
from left to right um so uh what what we had been looking at in the

2053
01:28:10,920 --> 01:28:13,199
last good number of years was payroll

2054
01:28:13,199 --> 01:28:15,960
and then a number for payroll um uh and

2055
01:28:15,960 --> 01:28:18,080
I've uh there are all these

2056
01:28:18,080 --> 01:28:19,960
subcategories of of items that are

2057
01:28:19,960 --> 01:28:24,320
related to payroll um and and they were

2058
01:28:24,320 --> 01:28:26,639
not on the prior year correct that

2059
01:28:26,639 --> 01:28:29,360
detail was not there um and I did a lot

2060
01:28:29,360 --> 01:28:32,080
of digging and was able to find the the

2061
01:28:32,080 --> 01:28:34,239
detail for payroll again that's 90% of

2062
01:28:34,239 --> 01:28:36,920
our budget um and you can see there's a

2063
01:28:36,920 --> 01:28:38,719
couple whole uh things that that don't

2064
01:28:38,719 --> 01:28:40,840
have any numbers like uh HRA

2065
01:28:40,840 --> 01:28:45,400
contribution um C contribution FICA and

2066
01:28:45,400 --> 01:28:48,080
Vermont income tax um that's because

2067
01:28:48,080 --> 01:28:49,480
they were not

2068
01:28:49,480 --> 01:28:53,040
budgeted so those are items that do not

2069
01:28:53,040 --> 01:28:55,000
have uh that were're not budgeted for

2070
01:28:55,000 --> 01:28:56,880
this particular year and they're all

2071
01:28:56,880 --> 01:29:02,800
things that require uh money so um so so

2072
01:29:02,800 --> 01:29:06,360
what was uh voted on was was 210 778 as

2073
01:29:06,360 --> 01:29:09,280
the payroll uh and then uh these are the

2074
01:29:09,280 --> 01:29:11,320
other items that were in that budget um

2075
01:29:11,320 --> 01:29:13,960
red telephone supplies of computer uh so

2076
01:29:13,960 --> 01:29:18,080
on and so forth um and it resulted in

2077
01:29:18,080 --> 01:29:22,000
23,8 48 as the budget for the year uh

2078
01:29:22,000 --> 01:29:23,719
and then uh so that's on the expense

2079
01:29:23,719 --> 01:29:27,119
side the revenue side um equal uh

2080
01:29:27,119 --> 01:29:29,080
amounts across the three towns in Sugar

2081
01:29:29,080 --> 01:29:30,560
Bush so it just says towns in Sugar Bush

2082
01:29:30,560 --> 01:29:33,800
but it's 53 962 time three for the three

2083
01:29:33,800 --> 01:29:35,880
towns plus the same amount with

2084
01:29:35,880 --> 01:29:42,400
Sugarbush uh and you'll see that the total revenue is $155,000 less

2085
01:29:42,400 --> 01:29:45,960
uh the expense uh and there was an

2086
01:29:45,960 --> 01:29:48,600
identified carryover or or balance

2087
01:29:48,600 --> 01:29:50,520
forward for the previous year and it was

2088
01:29:50,520 --> 01:29:52,520
identified that the balance a portion of

2089
01:29:52,520 --> 01:29:55,239
that balance forward of $150,000 would

2090
01:29:55,239 --> 01:29:58,960
be used um for the that particular year

2091
01:29:58,960 --> 01:30:02,520
um so the the result is that the revenue

2092
01:30:02,520 --> 01:30:06,320
equals the expense um so that's what was

2093
01:30:06,320 --> 01:30:09,080
budgeted uh we get to year year-to dat

2094
01:30:09,080 --> 01:30:13,080
actuals so I've um used the services I I

2095
01:30:13,080 --> 01:30:17,520
recently worked with a u accounting and

2096
01:30:17,520 --> 01:30:21,520
uh business uh Finance team uh to

2097
01:30:21,520 --> 01:30:23,719
provide some assistance what I realized

2098
01:30:23,719 --> 01:30:27,000
was that a lot of these categories um

2099
01:30:27,000 --> 01:30:30,760
were not necessarily in QuickBooks uh

2100
01:30:30,760 --> 01:30:32,320
sometimes they're in different

2101
01:30:32,320 --> 01:30:35,159
structures so I what essentially Bob

2102
01:30:35,159 --> 01:30:37,480
made did things his way and then and

2103
01:30:37,480 --> 01:30:39,159
then um that made sense to him and then

2104
01:30:39,159 --> 01:30:40,679
he put them into QuickBooks and not

2105
01:30:40,679 --> 01:30:42,960
things didn't always line up and so

2106
01:30:42,960 --> 01:30:44,159
that's been a lot of the work that I've

2107
01:30:44,159 --> 01:30:45,480
been sifting through in the last couple

2108
01:30:45,480 --> 01:30:48,760
of months um uh and and I should say I

2109
01:30:48,760 --> 01:30:50,679
confirmed with Bob that the those

2110
01:30:50,679 --> 01:30:53,760
missing items um he confirmed that that

2111
01:30:53,760 --> 01:30:55,360
the they were not included in this

2112
01:30:55,360 --> 01:30:58,800
budgeting so we've gone through an

2113
01:30:58,800 --> 01:31:04,840
oversight yes it was an oversight um as well as Website Maintenance was also

2114
01:31:04,840 --> 01:31:07,280
not included um I think that was

2115
01:31:07,280 --> 01:31:11,639
intention I think he thought that that wasn't necessary but these were

2116
01:31:11,639 --> 01:31:14,639
oversight um FICA was actually zero in

2117
01:31:14,639 --> 01:31:15,880
the spreadsheet and then there was

2118
01:31:15,880 --> 01:31:17,239
nothing for the

2119
01:31:17,239 --> 01:31:20,960
HRA um so the amount on the HRA

2120
01:31:20,960 --> 01:31:24,119
contribution based on uh on the uh

2121
01:31:24,119 --> 01:31:28,239
health care plan is um should have been

2122
01:31:28,239 --> 01:31:31,719
$110,000 and if you look at the

2123
01:31:31,719 --> 01:31:34,719
uh the other big one is FICA which

2124
01:31:34,719 --> 01:31:39,320
should have been uh almost $111,000 so

2125
01:31:39,320 --> 01:31:42,679
uh it the budget was short

2126
01:31:42,679 --> 01:31:45,159
the if I was to make the budget and and

2127
01:31:45,159 --> 01:31:46,239
put all those numbers in there it's

2128
01:31:46,239 --> 01:31:47,520
about

2129
01:31:47,520 --> 01:31:51,280
$222,000 um shy so then we get to

2130
01:31:51,280 --> 01:31:54,040
year-to dat actual U so so I I end

2131
01:31:54,040 --> 01:31:56,880
utilizing uh this firm to help us go

2132
01:31:56,880 --> 01:31:59,520
through and detangle and make sense of

2133
01:31:59,520 --> 01:32:02,280
where we were but really for the goal of

2134
01:32:02,280 --> 01:32:05,760
getting a budget um uh not to fix

2135
01:32:05,760 --> 01:32:08,520
QuickBooks and do that cleanup um but it

2136
01:32:08,520 --> 01:32:10,360
did require some of that work to get us

2137
01:32:10,360 --> 01:32:12,040
here and and they've been really

2138
01:32:12,040 --> 01:32:15,360
instrumental 10 hours of work um in

2139
01:32:15,360 --> 01:32:16,880
assisting this so we have a year to date

2140
01:32:16,880 --> 01:32:24,480
actual that they were able to run uh and was able to remedy um some of the challenges with QuickBooks

2141
01:32:24,480 --> 01:32:25,920
um which ends up with a

2142
01:32:25,920 --> 01:32:29,560
183505 and then there's a end of year

2143
01:32:29,560 --> 01:32:32,679
end of fiscal year 25 projected totals

2144
01:32:32,679 --> 01:32:34,840
um and that end of year takes those

2145
01:32:34,840 --> 01:32:38,880
actuals um and looks at uh the the

2146
01:32:38,880 --> 01:32:41,199
future inflows and outflow well the that

2147
01:32:41,199 --> 01:32:43,360
would be the the inflows and outflows

2148
01:32:43,360 --> 01:32:45,840
but it but it looks at the the actuals

2149
01:32:45,840 --> 01:32:48,280
Compares it to the previous year

2150
01:32:48,280 --> 01:32:51,400
identifies um what's essentially missing

2151
01:32:51,400 --> 01:32:53,520
and in averages and comes up with a

2152
01:32:53,520 --> 01:32:58,280
project the total um and if you look uh

2153
01:32:58,280 --> 01:33:01,520
payroll uh is even though even though

2154
01:33:01,520 --> 01:33:02,360
the amount

2155
01:33:02,360 --> 01:33:04,679
missing missing in the original budget

2156
01:33:04,679 --> 01:33:05,840
was over

2157
01:33:05,840 --> 01:33:08,480
$220,000 um it's about $112,000 in

2158
01:33:08,480 --> 01:33:14,239
payroll um uh light and then we we we

2159
01:33:14,239 --> 01:33:16,080
look at the second half there of of what

2160
01:33:16,080 --> 01:33:18,000
we expect in the year and I'm happy to

2161
01:33:18,000 --> 01:33:19,960
go through any of these particular items

2162
01:33:19,960 --> 01:33:21,960
I have two other spreadsheets uh two

2163
01:33:21,960 --> 01:33:23,880
other tabs on this spreadsheet one that

2164
01:33:23,880 --> 01:33:25,880
is a payroll tab that goes into all that

2165
01:33:25,880 --> 01:33:29,760
detail um uh as well as the other uh

2166
01:33:29,760 --> 01:33:32,520
detailed items and and what fits within

2167
01:33:32,520 --> 01:33:36,159
each of those categories so at the uh

2168
01:33:36,159 --> 01:33:38,880
end of the the total expenses expected

2169
01:33:38,880 --> 01:33:43,840
in 2025 is 245 852 so essentially

2170
01:33:43,840 --> 01:33:49,199
$15,000 um above what was budgeted um if

2171
01:33:49,199 --> 01:33:54,040
we follow that through um so uh the the

2172
01:33:54,040 --> 01:33:59,550
there's

2173
01:33:59,560 --> 01:34:02,920
30,000 oh yes so a revenue is

2174
01:34:02,920 --> 01:34:06,080
25848 um our expenses is $245 so there's

2175
01:34:06,080 --> 01:34:12,790
a

2176
01:34:12,800 --> 01:34:16,560
$3,043 today um uh and identified a cash

2177
01:34:16,560 --> 01:34:18,040
balance of

2178
01:34:18,040 --> 01:34:22,480
24716 with inflows um uh essentially

2179
01:34:22,480 --> 01:34:24,239
what's left after uh

2180
01:34:24,239 --> 01:34:26,080
year to date of

2181
01:34:26,080 --> 01:34:29,000
40472 and then identified what what so

2182
01:34:29,000 --> 01:34:33,280
the inflows of 40472 are the three of

2183
01:34:33,280 --> 01:34:38,440
our um funders uh We've reminded them uh

2184
01:34:38,440 --> 01:34:41,000
of of their last quarterly payment to be

2185
01:34:41,000 --> 01:34:43,679
paid this month so that's 40 462 that's

2186
01:34:43,679 --> 01:34:46,560
three funders um fourth quarter payment

2187
01:34:46,560 --> 01:34:49,159
uh and then the outflows uh and at the

2188
01:34:49,159 --> 01:34:50,960
end of the year we anticipate a cash

2189
01:34:50,960 --> 01:34:54,159
ending balance of 2841

2190
01:34:54,159 --> 01:34:57,639
um so while $115,000 was identified uh

2191
01:34:57,639 --> 01:35:01,000
was allocated as the carryover um the

2192
01:35:01,000 --> 01:35:02,360
what's needed to get through the end of

2193
01:35:02,360 --> 01:35:05,840
the year is all of it um which is that

2194
01:35:05,840 --> 01:35:09,199
24716 again minus

2195
01:35:09,199 --> 01:35:12,880
82841 um any questions about that yeah I

2196
01:35:12,880 --> 01:35:14,800
do have one on that so that that

2197
01:35:14,800 --> 01:35:17,760
shortfall of

2198
01:35:17,760 --> 01:35:22,159
5746 that's with us collecting

2199
01:35:22,159 --> 01:35:25,520
68,000 from each of the contributors are

2200
01:35:25,520 --> 01:35:27,520
you which which where are you looking so

2201
01:35:27,520 --> 01:35:30,679
um at the very bottom right column uh

2202
01:35:30,679 --> 01:35:32,520
it's showing yeah I'm not there yet next

2203
01:35:32,520 --> 01:35:36,000
year's budget okay let let's wait I just

2204
01:35:36,000 --> 01:35:38,280
any questions about 20 fiscal year 25

2205
01:35:38,280 --> 01:35:40,320
before we get to FC year 26 so I yeah I

2206
01:35:40,320 --> 01:35:42,199
do have one okay that's legitimate this

2207
01:35:42,199 --> 01:35:44,600
time so that

2208
01:35:44,600 --> 01:35:47,960
53,9 62 that we collected this past year

2209
01:35:47,960 --> 01:35:50,400
from each of the towns in St Bush yeah

2210
01:35:50,400 --> 01:35:52,920
how long has it been at that number uh

2211
01:35:52,920 --> 01:35:55,040
it was a first year that we've been

2212
01:35:55,040 --> 01:35:56,600
level funding that for quite a number of

2213
01:35:56,600 --> 01:35:59,360
years until last year so so we were

2214
01:35:59,360 --> 01:36:04,119
level funding for a um I think seven

2215
01:36:04,119 --> 01:36:10,719
years five years or seven years I and I I had I'm in Zoom right now so but

2216
01:36:10,719 --> 01:36:12,040
it's on my computer I can pull it up in

2217
01:36:12,040 --> 01:36:16,159
a moment but we were at about

2218
01:36:16,159 --> 01:36:18,040
47,0

2219
01:36:18,040 --> 01:36:21,280
45,000 for a good number of years um and

2220
01:36:21,280 --> 01:36:23,440
level funded like truly level funded I

2221
01:36:23,440 --> 01:36:25,960
think for four years but within a couple

2222
01:36:25,960 --> 01:36:29,480
thou thousand for about s years so last

2223
01:36:29,480 --> 01:36:33,040
year was the first year of an increase

2224
01:36:33,040 --> 01:36:36,320
um a a a more substantial increase and

2225
01:36:36,320 --> 01:36:38,800
kind of the first time almost the first

2226
01:36:38,800 --> 01:36:41,360
time in my time here um a couple of

2227
01:36:41,360 --> 01:36:44,679
things like how how are we level funded

2228
01:36:44,679 --> 01:36:46,199
well because we weren't spending all all

2229
01:36:46,199 --> 01:36:48,960
of our budget why because we didn't have

2230
01:36:48,960 --> 01:36:52,520
two full-time staff we Sam is the fifth

2231
01:36:52,520 --> 01:36:55,119
Community planner since

2232
01:36:55,119 --> 01:37:00,159
2016 um so we we we were budgeting for

2233
01:37:00,159 --> 01:37:05,360
having um two fulltime staff but then we had a fair amount of turnover and

2234
01:37:05,360 --> 01:37:07,119
with that turnover in the more recent

2235
01:37:07,119 --> 01:37:08,360
time in

2236
01:37:08,360 --> 01:37:12,320
2023 um uh time period 2022 to 2023 that

2237
01:37:12,320 --> 01:37:14,600
was seven months so that's one way to

2238
01:37:14,600 --> 01:37:16,880
save money right and that's what built

2239
01:37:16,880 --> 01:37:19,760
up um essentially the Surplus and so

2240
01:37:19,760 --> 01:37:22,679
we've been working off of the Surplus um

2241
01:37:22,679 --> 01:37:25,320
essentially what we've been asking of

2242
01:37:25,320 --> 01:37:28,480
our um of our partners is not the full

2243
01:37:28,480 --> 01:37:30,320
amount of funding the plan dis District

2244
01:37:30,320 --> 01:37:33,760
we've been been um relying on

2245
01:37:33,760 --> 01:37:36,440
essentially our reserves or our savings

2246
01:37:36,440 --> 01:37:39,480
um uh so essentially last year was the

2247
01:37:39,480 --> 01:37:41,239
first year of playing catchup and what

2248
01:37:41,239 --> 01:37:43,280
was that bum last year what was the

2249
01:37:43,280 --> 01:37:44,800
increase

2250
01:37:44,800 --> 01:37:47,520
um I also have that on here I can p pull

2251
01:37:47,520 --> 01:37:49,800
it up but I can probably find it and if

2252
01:37:49,800 --> 01:37:52,159
you want to keep going Josh so what I

2253
01:37:52,159 --> 01:37:53,880
the reason for the question is I'm

2254
01:37:53,880 --> 01:37:56,440
thinking in terms of they ask and I know

2255
01:37:56,440 --> 01:37:57,639
you haven't got there yet but if they

2256
01:37:57,639 --> 01:37:58,920
ask

2257
01:37:58,920 --> 01:38:02,560
68,000 uh from each of the towns in jush

2258
01:38:02,560 --> 01:38:04,159
uh that incorporates some of the things

2259
01:38:04,159 --> 01:38:05,960
you just mentioned but also some of the

2260
01:38:05,960 --> 01:38:07,400
things that were missing that should

2261
01:38:07,400 --> 01:38:12,040
have been collected over time that were not correct and so the ask probably

2262
01:38:12,040 --> 01:38:14,080
would have been higher for the past

2263
01:38:14,080 --> 01:38:16,040
three or four years if we had known all

2264
01:38:16,040 --> 01:38:18,719
of this at that time correct yeah so

2265
01:38:18,719 --> 01:38:20,199
that's the point I wanted to make with

2266
01:38:20,199 --> 01:38:22,119
that yeah and and I think that there was

2267
01:38:22,119 --> 01:38:24,040
a um

2268
01:38:24,040 --> 01:38:25,960
many of the time this steering committee

2269
01:38:25,960 --> 01:38:28,480
when we've talked about the budget um

2270
01:38:28,480 --> 01:38:31,960
sort of a philosophical question of

2271
01:38:31,960 --> 01:38:34,880
should we be kind of filling our coffers

2272
01:38:34,880 --> 01:38:36,360
a little bit and increasing a little bit

2273
01:38:36,360 --> 01:38:39,280
over time or should we be zering it out

2274
01:38:39,280 --> 01:38:40,719
and there's even conversations of giving

2275
01:38:40,719 --> 01:38:43,440
money back to the town in in in in

2276
01:38:43,440 --> 01:38:48,480
periods of time where we didn't need it all um uh and so that was kind

2277
01:38:48,480 --> 01:38:50,239
of the practice I mean that that's kind

2278
01:38:50,239 --> 01:38:53,440
of where the brain space was was let's

2279
01:38:53,440 --> 01:38:54,880
minimize the amount we're at let's only

2280
01:38:54,880 --> 01:38:57,480
ask for what we need because budgets are

2281
01:38:57,480 --> 01:38:59,480
tight this year I've heard that

2282
01:38:59,480 --> 01:39:01,760
conversation every year since 2008 the

2283
01:39:01,760 --> 01:39:04,199
budgets are tight this year um and I'm

2284
01:39:04,199 --> 01:39:08,679
not saying they aren't but but uh but

2285
01:39:08,679 --> 01:39:14,080
that we we didn't build an an on-ramp or an off-ramp um we sort of stayed with

2286
01:39:14,080 --> 01:39:15,920
that and then kind of hit with this more

2287
01:39:15,920 --> 01:39:19,920
dramatic increase that's the so I think

2288
01:39:19,920 --> 01:39:22,920
this is the correct spread G but the I

2289
01:39:22,920 --> 01:39:25,639
think the funder amount for not this

2290
01:39:25,639 --> 01:39:28,840
year but the year before was

2291
01:39:28,840 --> 01:39:31,119
4,317 and then last year around this

2292
01:39:31,119 --> 01:39:33,679
time there were two proposals one in

2293
01:39:33,679 --> 01:39:35,920
which we would not use carryover which

2294
01:39:35,920 --> 01:39:38,760
would be a funder amount of

2295
01:39:38,760 --> 01:39:41,920
57,7 12 and then a secondary approach

2296
01:39:41,920 --> 01:39:43,840
which we ended up doing this approach of

2297
01:39:43,840 --> 01:39:47,080
using $155,000 of carryover to make the

2298
01:39:47,080 --> 01:39:49,880
funder contribution

2299
01:39:49,880 --> 01:39:52,280
53,9 that's yeah that's what I remember

2300
01:39:52,280 --> 01:39:59,840
MH and so in 2018 it was 41 988 2019

2301
01:39:59,840 --> 01:40:05,119
44067 then 4467 and 20 and 2021 45317

2302
01:40:05,119 --> 01:40:07,840
and that continued 21 22 and 23 so there

2303
01:40:07,840 --> 01:40:09,920
was a fair amount of consistency over

2304
01:40:09,920 --> 01:40:14,119
time um and then yeah so the idea in

2305
01:40:14,119 --> 01:40:17,360
this last year was to Let's utilize some

2306
01:40:17,360 --> 01:40:20,480
carryover so that this year's increases

2307
01:40:20,480 --> 01:40:22,040
in that Year's increase wouldn't be so

2308
01:40:22,040 --> 01:40:24,800
dramatic obvious viously it didn't

2309
01:40:24,800 --> 01:40:29,080
include all the costs um uh and and and

2310
01:40:29,080 --> 01:40:31,119
so that it's in some of this year it's

2311
01:40:31,119 --> 01:40:33,480
kind of bailing that out or utilizing

2312
01:40:33,480 --> 01:40:36,159
more of the carryover in order to to

2313
01:40:36,159 --> 01:40:38,360
afford that you know this this isn't

2314
01:40:38,360 --> 01:40:40,280
this shouldn't have been a complicated

2315
01:40:40,280 --> 01:40:43,440
budget and it I understand the amount of

2316
01:40:43,440 --> 01:40:46,199
work you put into it it was I I don't

2317
01:40:46,199 --> 01:40:49,320
understand how this how these decisions

2318
01:40:49,320 --> 01:40:50,080
were

2319
01:40:50,080 --> 01:40:53,520
made and I I think it was just I think

2320
01:40:53,520 --> 01:40:55,040
you know and I was here last year and it

2321
01:40:55,040 --> 01:40:56,719
was just okay that's the budget that's

2322
01:40:56,719 --> 01:40:58,599
presented to us it's always been good

2323
01:40:58,599 --> 01:40:59,920
it's always you know we've always paid

2324
01:40:59,920 --> 01:41:03,400
our bills let's um let's go with it but

2325
01:41:03,400 --> 01:41:05,280
had we looked under the hood right it

2326
01:41:05,280 --> 01:41:08,360
might have been a scary conversation is

2327
01:41:08,360 --> 01:41:12,440
this year yeah and and I'm a like I'm a

2328
01:41:12,440 --> 01:41:16,000
detail oriented person so like I I 100%

2329
01:41:16,000 --> 01:41:17,760
stand behind all of the data here I've

2330
01:41:17,760 --> 01:41:22,560
spent a tremendous amount of effort in reading through and making sure I

2331
01:41:22,560 --> 01:41:24,800
know what what's in here um like I said

2332
01:41:24,800 --> 01:41:26,000
I have some other spreadsheets I have

2333
01:41:26,000 --> 01:41:27,520
more detail if you're interested in that

2334
01:41:27,520 --> 01:41:30,560
detail happy to talk about it but um but

2335
01:41:30,560 --> 01:41:33,639
in the past I wasn't uh and and I wasn't

2336
01:41:33,639 --> 01:41:35,159
because somebody else had it and you

2337
01:41:35,159 --> 01:41:38,080
know and and and that's fine um and it

2338
01:41:38,080 --> 01:41:40,560
served us well for a very long time uh

2339
01:41:40,560 --> 01:41:43,119
to be honest but but but I think we are

2340
01:41:43,119 --> 01:41:45,000
at at you know it was

2341
01:41:45,000 --> 01:41:47,360
identified when when Bob shared the

2342
01:41:47,360 --> 01:41:49,000
budget last year one of the things I

2343
01:41:49,000 --> 01:41:51,719
requested from him was to not just what

2344
01:41:51,719 --> 01:41:53,800
is the budget for the next year but what

2345
01:41:53,800 --> 01:41:55,639
is the budget for the next five years

2346
01:41:55,639 --> 01:41:58,679
like like what's a trajectory um and and

2347
01:41:58,679 --> 01:42:00,679
where does that go and he and he ran it

2348
01:42:00,679 --> 01:42:05,360
out to 2030 um uh and to be honest this

2349
01:42:05,360 --> 01:42:08,280
is kind of the kind of where that was

2350
01:42:08,280 --> 01:42:10,159
showing like like this is in that

2351
01:42:10,159 --> 01:42:12,280
direction for sure it yeah but I think

2352
01:42:12,280 --> 01:42:14,040
it was more like five years from now and

2353
01:42:14,040 --> 01:42:18,320
not this year yeah it 20 fcal year 2026

2354
01:42:18,320 --> 01:42:23,800
was 63,000 so under yeah so it it it

2355
01:42:23,800 --> 01:42:26,760
yeah and and and again if we didn't

2356
01:42:26,760 --> 01:42:30,000
spend if we had $20,000 that we were

2357
01:42:30,000 --> 01:42:31,880
that we had already budgeted for it

2358
01:42:31,880 --> 01:42:33,280
wouldn't be as big of a jump in this

2359
01:42:33,280 --> 01:42:35,800
particular year so so given the

2360
01:42:35,800 --> 01:42:39,400
time um we did not have a chance to talk

2361
01:42:39,400 --> 01:42:40,880
about this beforehand I did get on the

2362
01:42:40,880 --> 01:42:42,679
call yesterday with the folks that Josh

2363
01:42:42,679 --> 01:42:44,280
was working with it was it was eye

2364
01:42:44,280 --> 01:42:46,840
opening and it was very helpful and it's

2365
01:42:46,840 --> 01:42:50,159
really seems to be figuring things out

2366
01:42:50,159 --> 01:42:53,320
what i' suggested an email to Josh today

2367
01:42:53,320 --> 01:42:56,320
was let's get the presentation

2368
01:42:56,320 --> 01:42:58,080
understand the numbers let us go back to

2369
01:42:58,080 --> 01:43:01,239
our boards and kind of have it and maybe

2370
01:43:01,239 --> 01:43:02,920
have the executive committee sit down

2371
01:43:02,920 --> 01:43:05,800
and think through a couple of things if

2372
01:43:05,800 --> 01:43:08,320
any or you know anybody wants to weigh

2373
01:43:08,320 --> 01:43:10,639
in on any question or thoughts and then

2374
01:43:10,639 --> 01:43:12,480
come back in January and finish the

2375
01:43:12,480 --> 01:43:14,360
budget when we have a better idea how

2376
01:43:14,360 --> 01:43:16,360
it's going to be received I don't know

2377
01:43:16,360 --> 01:43:19,760
that we'll have time um our our intent

2378
01:43:19,760 --> 01:43:21,119
is we have a budget another budget

2379
01:43:21,119 --> 01:43:23,599
meeting it's Monday and that was going

2380
01:43:23,599 --> 01:43:25,119
to be our last budget meeting then we

2381
01:43:25,119 --> 01:43:27,159
have one more slateboard meeting before

2382
01:43:27,159 --> 01:43:29,159
the end of the year and then we were

2383
01:43:29,159 --> 01:43:30,960
going to finalize the budget at at that

2384
01:43:30,960 --> 01:43:34,920
time so we would want this number a lot

2385
01:43:34,920 --> 01:43:36,639
sooner than when we would meet again as

2386
01:43:36,639 --> 01:43:39,840
a group in the third week in January so

2387
01:43:39,840 --> 01:43:41,840
I I don't know if that's doable for you

2388
01:43:41,840 --> 01:43:44,639
guys are offici my select

2389
01:43:44,639 --> 01:43:46,400
any three

2390
01:43:46,400 --> 01:43:51,000
member tell you yeah you know so I I get

2391
01:43:51,000 --> 01:43:53,800
involved a little earlier on as to the

2392
01:43:53,800 --> 01:43:56,840
treasurer and trying to find somebody

2393
01:43:56,840 --> 01:43:59,199
who would do this background work for us

2394
01:43:59,199 --> 01:44:01,520
who would establish a long-term basis

2395
01:44:01,520 --> 01:44:04,040
for our financials that we could really

2396
01:44:04,040 --> 01:44:07,159
rely on moving forward and the other

2397
01:44:07,159 --> 01:44:08,840
backup sheets that you have on there

2398
01:44:08,840 --> 01:44:12,199
Josh certainly do that uh so we have the

2399
01:44:12,199 --> 01:44:15,920
foundation for moving forward that this

2400
01:44:15,920 --> 01:44:18,760
won't happen again and we even have an

2401
01:44:18,760 --> 01:44:20,199
opportunity and I don't know that we

2402
01:44:20,199 --> 01:44:22,280
need to decide that tonight but to hire

2403
01:44:22,280 --> 01:44:23,639
on this firm

2404
01:44:23,639 --> 01:44:27,000
long term to to act as almost a

2405
01:44:27,000 --> 01:44:29,560
financial VP for us to keep track of

2406
01:44:29,560 --> 01:44:32,320
these numbers to do the budgeting to do

2407
01:44:32,320 --> 01:44:35,199
the the forecasting to do all the other

2408
01:44:35,199 --> 01:44:38,639
uh Financial work so from my perspective

2409
01:44:38,639 --> 01:44:42,040
I feel comfortable with what's on here

2410
01:44:42,040 --> 01:44:44,920
now I don't know that much would change

2411
01:44:44,920 --> 01:44:51,760
between now and our next meeting so my not recommendation but my feeling is

2412
01:44:51,760 --> 01:44:53,320
that you know I would totally feel

2413
01:44:53,320 --> 01:44:55,199
comfortable moving forward voting on

2414
01:44:55,199 --> 01:44:58,000
this um it I guess depends on how the

2415
01:44:58,000 --> 01:45:00,560
rest of the folks feel but I I do feel

2416
01:45:00,560 --> 01:45:02,280
now that we have a good Financial basis

2417
01:45:02,280 --> 01:45:05,520
to start from and we won't we won't run

2418
01:45:05,520 --> 01:45:08,000
into this again in the

2419
01:45:08,000 --> 01:45:14,520
future so I I what does HRA stand for

2420
01:45:14,520 --> 01:45:18,639
um well there's a HSA in h Health

2421
01:45:18,639 --> 01:45:20,000
Savings

2422
01:45:20,000 --> 01:45:23,280
Account HSA health reimbursement account

2423
01:45:23,280 --> 01:45:26,080
yes employer correct well so one of one

2424
01:45:26,080 --> 01:45:28,719
of the key differences with HSA is with

2425
01:45:28,719 --> 01:45:31,080
the individual and H is with the

2426
01:45:31,080 --> 01:45:34,400
employer um HRA if you don't utilize it

2427
01:45:34,400 --> 01:45:38,320
all it doesn't all um

2428
01:45:38,320 --> 01:45:40,199
uh if you

2429
01:45:40,199 --> 01:45:42,280
don't Ju Just because you budget it

2430
01:45:42,280 --> 01:45:43,719
doesn't mean that that that's the full

2431
01:45:43,719 --> 01:45:45,679
amount that's essentially the ceiling

2432
01:45:45,679 --> 01:45:47,560
all the way to the deductible so one of

2433
01:45:47,560 --> 01:45:49,960
the components with the healthc care so

2434
01:45:49,960 --> 01:45:53,840
an HSA is is owned by the employee

2435
01:45:53,840 --> 01:45:56,560
own by the employer correct so why why

2436
01:45:56,560 --> 01:45:58,920
the big jump in 2026 that's the biggest

2437
01:45:58,920 --> 01:46:01,520
change in the whole budget yeah so so so

2438
01:46:01,520 --> 01:46:03,040
yeah if you don't mind I walk through a

2439
01:46:03,040 --> 01:46:06,320
couple of the 2026 budget items one um

2440
01:46:06,320 --> 01:46:10,440
wages um wages from 143 to

2441
01:46:10,440 --> 01:46:15,199
147 is that 292 um so that's a 3% um

2442
01:46:15,199 --> 01:46:18,679
wage increase for staff um the next is

2443
01:46:18,679 --> 01:46:20,800
the health insurance premium so we are

2444
01:46:20,800 --> 01:46:23,080
currently with a Blue Cross Blue Shield

2445
01:46:23,080 --> 01:46:29,159
gold um uh which uh has a 54 essentially

2446
01:46:29,159 --> 01:46:34,040
$55,000 premium for the the two of us

2447
01:46:34,040 --> 01:46:37,719
twers plan and a family plan and an HRA

2448
01:46:37,719 --> 01:46:42,159
of um uh 10,000 essentially

2449
01:46:42,159 --> 01:46:46,199
$10,500 um what we are what what we're

2450
01:46:46,199 --> 01:46:48,960
planning on moving to is an MVP plan

2451
01:46:48,960 --> 01:46:51,599
that mvp plan so Blue Cross Blue Shield

2452
01:46:51,599 --> 01:46:53,679
for the same plan went up by

2453
01:46:53,679 --> 01:46:56,719
5.5% so we needed to explore a different

2454
01:46:56,719 --> 01:47:01,760
option um and MVP has a product uh that

2455
01:47:01,760 --> 01:47:03,599
essentially the health insurance premium

2456
01:47:03,599 --> 01:47:07,159
goes down just I think it's 8% um but

2457
01:47:07,159 --> 01:47:09,960
the HR the deductible

2458
01:47:09,960 --> 01:47:13,880
skyrockets um so so so the deductible

2459
01:47:13,880 --> 01:47:16,280
combined it's it's two and a half times

2460
01:47:16,280 --> 01:47:18,880
what it was in the other one um and that

2461
01:47:18,880 --> 01:47:22,960
works fine so long as you know well the

2462
01:47:22,960 --> 01:47:25,920
so so the combined impact in the plan

2463
01:47:25,920 --> 01:47:27,760
year is a

2464
01:47:27,760 --> 01:47:30,560
10.67% increase versus a

2465
01:47:30,560 --> 01:47:34,040
25.5 um these numbers calculate one of

2466
01:47:34,040 --> 01:47:35,760
the things that that's that's

2467
01:47:35,760 --> 01:47:37,760
challenging is that our is our is the

2468
01:47:37,760 --> 01:47:39,320
timing of our fiscal year versus the

2469
01:47:39,320 --> 01:47:44,840
calendar year um so this would this is about calendar year that we're

2470
01:47:44,840 --> 01:47:48,440
in right now um sorry this is about

2471
01:47:48,440 --> 01:47:50,960
calendar year 2025 and then fiscal year

2472
01:47:50,960 --> 01:47:53,960
starts in in March uh so I also had to

2473
01:47:53,960 --> 01:47:56,639
calculate what I anticipate an increase

2474
01:47:56,639 --> 01:48:00,440
being next calendar year um so combined

2475
01:48:00,440 --> 01:48:01,800
the health insurance goes up by just

2476
01:48:01,800 --> 01:48:04,520
about 12% and I was just going to add

2477
01:48:04,520 --> 01:48:07,480
that so you mentioned the 3% uh salary

2478
01:48:07,480 --> 01:48:10,520
increase and we had surveyed the towns

2479
01:48:10,520 --> 01:48:14,040
Brian as a executive committee and most

2480
01:48:14,040 --> 01:48:15,800
of the towns are in the range of 4 and a

2481
01:48:15,800 --> 01:48:19,119
half% but because we were C covering the

2482
01:48:19,119 --> 01:48:25,840
HRA um we we landed on a 3% in inas for salar so we tried to balance that

2483
01:48:25,840 --> 01:48:28,599
out from the from the salary and benefit

2484
01:48:28,599 --> 01:48:32,080
perspective y but and we we also had a

2485
01:48:32,080 --> 01:48:34,080
conversation and we had at steering

2486
01:48:34,080 --> 01:48:36,080
committee level is

2487
01:48:36,080 --> 01:48:38,760
that I I don't believe the health care

2488
01:48:38,760 --> 01:48:41,520
benefits are compar comparable to our

2489
01:48:41,520 --> 01:48:43,599
town health care benefits especially

2490
01:48:43,599 --> 01:48:45,040
with that jump in the

2491
01:48:45,040 --> 01:48:46,679
HRA

2492
01:48:46,679 --> 01:48:49,840
um which I know our our town has an

2493
01:48:49,840 --> 01:48:52,159
employee contribution to health

2494
01:48:52,159 --> 01:48:54,440
insurance and we don't cover an HSA or

2495
01:48:54,440 --> 01:48:59,719
an HRA um we do cover it and and we pay

2496
01:48:59,719 --> 01:49:04,119
85% of the the benefit for families yeah

2497
01:49:04,119 --> 01:49:05,239
do you do the

2498
01:49:05,239 --> 01:49:08,920
H yeah and we cover the HRA as well yeah

2499
01:49:08,920 --> 01:49:09,840
we do

2500
01:49:09,840 --> 01:49:14,159
too yeah so so what the plan district

2501
01:49:14,159 --> 01:49:16,760
has so years ago when it came to health

2502
01:49:16,760 --> 01:49:19,840
insurance we had um kind of a

2503
01:49:19,840 --> 01:49:22,960
traditional plan with a lower deductible

2504
01:49:22,960 --> 01:49:24,760
um there was a poor time when the

2505
01:49:24,760 --> 01:49:26,119
planning district paid for both and

2506
01:49:26,119 --> 01:49:28,119
there was a time where the planning

2507
01:49:28,119 --> 01:49:32,360
district paid less um to less of the

2508
01:49:32,360 --> 01:49:34,599
deductible um and then there was a time

2509
01:49:34,599 --> 01:49:36,199
that we switched to a high deductible

2510
01:49:36,199 --> 01:49:38,040
which is essentially what this plan is

2511
01:49:38,040 --> 01:49:39,360
um that the plane District didn't pay

2512
01:49:39,360 --> 01:49:41,280
for and then I end up paying like $8,000

2513
01:49:41,280 --> 01:49:43,159
out of pocket that year over the

2514
01:49:43,159 --> 01:49:47,119
previous year and uh and and and I

2515
01:49:47,119 --> 01:49:48,840
shared that with the board and was told

2516
01:49:48,840 --> 01:49:51,360
oh that wasn't what we meant to do um uh

2517
01:49:51,360 --> 01:49:53,639
and that's why we that that's why we've

2518
01:49:53,639 --> 01:49:55,639
that plan district has had the gold plan

2519
01:49:55,639 --> 01:49:57,960
with a full coverage of the H the last

2520
01:49:57,960 --> 01:49:59,360
couple years but this is a high

2521
01:49:59,360 --> 01:50:04,239
deductible plan um uh I I anticipate I

2522
01:50:04,239 --> 01:50:06,199
anticip you know right I mean health

2523
01:50:06,199 --> 01:50:07,400
insurance is health insurance you have

2524
01:50:07,400 --> 01:50:10,040
no idea but in a perfect world we're not

2525
01:50:10,040 --> 01:50:12,599
utilizing that that full deductible um

2526
01:50:12,599 --> 01:50:17,239
but life is life um um anything else

2527
01:50:17,239 --> 01:50:18,400
about that before I keep on quoting on

2528
01:50:18,400 --> 01:50:21,639
the list uh dental insurance continuing

2529
01:50:21,639 --> 01:50:24,320
the same plan um not much hardly any

2530
01:50:24,320 --> 01:50:26,360
change at all vision

2531
01:50:26,360 --> 01:50:31,040
insurance no change um group life and uh

2532
01:50:31,040 --> 01:50:34,760
disability um it was budgeted low last

2533
01:50:34,760 --> 01:50:38,360
year um but no change uh the CP

2534
01:50:38,360 --> 01:50:40,560
contribution is essentially a $600

2535
01:50:40,560 --> 01:50:42,440
broker fee and I don't quite understand

2536
01:50:42,440 --> 01:50:43,599
why there's numbers in there at more

2537
01:50:43,599 --> 01:50:48,920
than $600 I think things something got coded wrong um uh in in this

2538
01:50:48,920 --> 01:50:51,239
particular year but that's a small

2539
01:50:51,239 --> 01:50:56,040
amount retirement um it is 5% of salary

2540
01:50:56,040 --> 01:50:57,800
uh that the plan planning district pays

2541
01:50:57,800 --> 01:51:01,400
after one year of employment yeah so so

2542
01:51:01,400 --> 01:51:06,000
Sam was was in this year uh after um in

2543
01:51:06,000 --> 01:51:10,159
April um the

2544
01:51:10,159 --> 01:51:14,199
FICA taxes so on and so forth so um then

2545
01:51:14,199 --> 01:51:18,000
I want to get down to to rent so rent we

2546
01:51:18,000 --> 01:51:22,719
anticipated it being um $300 a month

2547
01:51:22,719 --> 01:51:24,280
it's been

2548
01:51:24,280 --> 01:51:26,000
271

2549
01:51:26,000 --> 01:51:27,920
forever uh

2550
01:51:27,920 --> 01:51:30,639
and town of wesfield has raised the rent

2551
01:51:30,639 --> 01:51:33,560
and has a new lease for this new year um

2552
01:51:33,560 --> 01:51:35,440
so that's 3600 which is what we budgeted

2553
01:51:35,440 --> 01:51:40,400
for last year anyway um Telephone um for

2554
01:51:40,400 --> 01:51:43,599
a long time um the plan District paid

2555
01:51:43,599 --> 01:51:49,159
$35 a month towards my cell phone um

2556
01:51:49,159 --> 01:51:51,520
uh because I was doing work on my cell

2557
01:51:51,520 --> 01:51:55,000
phone um uh and since I came back from

2558
01:51:55,000 --> 01:51:57,920
my sabatical I have not put my work

2559
01:51:57,920 --> 01:51:59,960
email on my

2560
01:51:59,960 --> 01:52:03,679
phone and I'd like to continue that um

2561
01:52:03,679 --> 01:52:04,960
uh that that's one of the changes I've

2562
01:52:04,960 --> 01:52:07,119
made in my life so I've I've zeroed that

2563
01:52:07,119 --> 01:52:10,000
out oh uh and sorry um back up to

2564
01:52:10,000 --> 01:52:13,119
payroll total employee perks so employee

2565
01:52:13,119 --> 01:52:16,560
perks 1277 approved in the budget um

2566
01:52:16,560 --> 01:52:19,320
when I started the planning district in

2567
01:52:19,320 --> 01:52:20,760
uh part of working here one of the

2568
01:52:20,760 --> 01:52:22,679
benefits was getting a pass that two sh

2569
01:52:22,679 --> 01:52:24,760
bush in that first year at the very

2570
01:52:24,760 --> 01:52:26,560
least if not the second year it was a

2571
01:52:26,560 --> 01:52:30,000
compt pass from Sugar Bush um and then

2572
01:52:30,000 --> 01:52:32,119
it stopped being a comp pass from compt

2573
01:52:32,119 --> 01:52:33,480
pass from Sugar Bush and then the

2574
01:52:33,480 --> 01:52:35,719
planning district was paying for a pass

2575
01:52:35,719 --> 01:52:39,119
for an employee um as as part of of the

2576
01:52:39,119 --> 01:52:42,480
perks I removed that from the budget

2577
01:52:42,480 --> 01:52:45,239
because I thought it was hard for us to

2578
01:52:45,239 --> 01:52:47,280
make our budget not because I didn't

2579
01:52:47,280 --> 01:52:49,760
want that P want the pass but I was just

2580
01:52:49,760 --> 01:52:51,840
trying to make the budget work so I I

2581
01:52:51,840 --> 01:52:55,040
did that to my to ourselves um anybody

2582
01:52:55,040 --> 01:52:59,239
here can um argue differently but uh I

2583
01:52:59,239 --> 01:53:01,760
so I've reduced uh the the the ski pass

2584
01:53:01,760 --> 01:53:03,760
benefit and I've reduced the cell phone

2585
01:53:03,760 --> 01:53:07,159
contribution benefit um and I should

2586
01:53:07,159 --> 01:53:11,000
also state that the MVP plan uh doesn't

2587
01:53:11,000 --> 01:53:14,280
include all of most of but not all of

2588
01:53:14,280 --> 01:53:15,960
the providers of my that my family

2589
01:53:15,960 --> 01:53:21,000
visits um so I understand the like we're

2590
01:53:21,000 --> 01:53:22,760
not doing as much of a raise because we

2591
01:53:22,760 --> 01:53:24,840
do it you know we're giving money this

2592
01:53:24,840 --> 01:53:27,239
other place we are also recognizing

2593
01:53:27,239 --> 01:53:29,560
compromise as well um and trying to be

2594
01:53:29,560 --> 01:53:33,159
really cognizant and diligent um and I

2595
01:53:33,159 --> 01:53:34,599
could get into the details about

2596
01:53:34,599 --> 01:53:35,800
supplies and computers and all those

2597
01:53:35,800 --> 01:53:37,199
things but the main things I wanted to

2598
01:53:37,199 --> 01:53:39,239
identify was just hosted workshops which

2599
01:53:39,239 --> 01:53:40,960
is the trown select board meeting has

2600
01:53:40,960 --> 01:53:42,520
always been $300 as long as I've been

2601
01:53:42,520 --> 01:53:44,199
here I raised it because if we actually

2602
01:53:44,199 --> 01:53:45,560
have an event it's going to be probably

2603
01:53:45,560 --> 01:53:46,280
more than

2604
01:53:46,280 --> 01:53:50,520
$300 um uh we we've tried to include um

2605
01:53:50,520 --> 01:53:53,239
all the printing of like this um it's

2606
01:53:53,239 --> 01:53:55,199
fair it's quite expensive to print so

2607
01:53:55,199 --> 01:53:57,599
we're we're printing things like um the

2608
01:53:57,599 --> 01:54:00,560
Ann U our data report U the wellbeing

2609
01:54:00,560 --> 01:54:02,520
survey um we've been keeping track of

2610
01:54:02,520 --> 01:54:04,159
those costs and they're all covered by

2611
01:54:04,159 --> 01:54:06,880
this um

2612
01:54:06,880 --> 01:54:10,880
the general liability insurance um that

2613
01:54:10,880 --> 01:54:13,079
is the passive program through VCT which

2614
01:54:13,079 --> 01:54:16,440
includes workers comp um Bob previously

2615
01:54:16,440 --> 01:54:18,760
had workers comp up high with payroll

2616
01:54:18,760 --> 01:54:20,480
and then other things I didn't want to

2617
01:54:20,480 --> 01:54:21,840
break those things out so I just kept it

2618
01:54:21,840 --> 01:54:25,239
as one one thing um but he under budget

2619
01:54:25,239 --> 01:54:27,320
it was under budgeted last year stop

2620
01:54:27,320 --> 01:54:29,280
blaming him it was under budgeted last

2621
01:54:29,280 --> 01:54:31,239
year so bookkeeping

2622
01:54:31,239 --> 01:54:34,360
services I recognize that we need more

2623
01:54:34,360 --> 01:54:36,239
help um and we need to do things

2624
01:54:36,239 --> 01:54:38,679
differently we we pay for QuickBooks um

2625
01:54:38,679 --> 01:54:40,920
we have like I said minimal uh support

2626
01:54:40,920 --> 01:54:44,040
from and minimal payment um uh to

2627
01:54:44,040 --> 01:54:46,639
Holland Holden um but I have identified

2628
01:54:46,639 --> 01:54:50,440
in there um I set aside an amount of

2629
01:54:50,440 --> 01:54:52,440
money for budgeting support and quick

2630
01:54:52,440 --> 01:54:54,079
books cleanup of

2631
01:54:54,079 --> 01:54:57,560
$3,000 um I anticipate a quote from that

2632
01:54:57,560 --> 01:54:58,920
particular company that I already worked

2633
01:54:58,920 --> 01:55:01,239
with by tomorrow um of what that amount

2634
01:55:01,239 --> 01:55:02,960
is I just put an amount in there I don't

2635
01:55:02,960 --> 01:55:06,119
know if it's correct um uh so that's for

2636
01:55:06,119 --> 01:55:09,440
fiscal year 25 that we're in um and then

2637
01:55:09,440 --> 01:55:12,679
for uh proposed um that goes up to

2638
01:55:12,679 --> 01:55:14,920
10,000 uh they already provided a

2639
01:55:14,920 --> 01:55:17,159
proposal they they said what they think

2640
01:55:17,159 --> 01:55:19,320
is that once we have some initial budget

2641
01:55:19,320 --> 01:55:22,800
support QuickBooks clean up um uh some

2642
01:55:22,800 --> 01:55:24,560
training of staff and sort of clean

2643
01:55:24,560 --> 01:55:26,159
things up it's going to be a lot easier

2644
01:55:26,159 --> 01:55:28,880
going forward and they recommend five

2645
01:55:28,880 --> 01:55:32,360
hours of work uh a month uh and that

2646
01:55:32,360 --> 01:55:33,480
doesn't have to be used just in that

2647
01:55:33,480 --> 01:55:35,920
month um but five hours a month and that

2648
01:55:35,920 --> 01:55:38,320
and that's included in the uh 26

2649
01:55:38,320 --> 01:55:40,520
proposed budget number um so that's

2650
01:55:40,520 --> 01:55:42,599
essentially the ongoing support is is

2651
01:55:42,599 --> 01:55:45,280
that number in included in there dve

2652
01:55:45,280 --> 01:55:48,719
that by 50 y okay it is in the 10,000

2653
01:55:48,719 --> 01:55:52,560
that is correct y y and you did put um

2654
01:55:52,560 --> 01:55:54,840
you and I talked about

2655
01:55:54,840 --> 01:55:57,239
I raised a concern you were going to

2656
01:55:57,239 --> 01:56:02,440
strike out travel in conference yeah no no it's back yeah um I mean travel

2657
01:56:02,440 --> 01:56:04,520
and Conference so the reason why in this

2658
01:56:04,520 --> 01:56:06,320
year travel and Conference workshops

2659
01:56:06,320 --> 01:56:08,719
those things are so low I was gone for

2660
01:56:08,719 --> 01:56:10,679
three and a half months I mean I don't

2661
01:56:10,679 --> 01:56:12,079
know if Sam knew that knew that he' go

2662
01:56:12,079 --> 01:56:13,119
to conferences he probably wanted to

2663
01:56:13,119 --> 01:56:14,639
check with me first I like I haven't

2664
01:56:14,639 --> 01:56:16,040
talked about this I'm just saying like

2665
01:56:16,040 --> 01:56:18,040
we just haven't um and since I've been

2666
01:56:18,040 --> 01:56:24,760
back I've been really busy and I've been thinking about conferences so it's it's been really low this year and

2667
01:56:24,760 --> 01:56:26,440
then anticipate that coming back going

2668
01:56:26,440 --> 01:56:27,840
for well I raised the concern not to

2669
01:56:27,840 --> 01:56:30,079
zero it out to made make sure that we

2670
01:56:30,079 --> 01:56:31,000
have professional development

2671
01:56:31,000 --> 01:56:32,440
opportunities and so professional

2672
01:56:32,440 --> 01:56:34,119
development and and that work is

2673
01:56:34,119 --> 01:56:35,840
included and it's at the same level as

2674
01:56:35,840 --> 01:56:38,280
it was in the previous uh in the current

2675
01:56:38,280 --> 01:56:40,960
fiscal year budget um so that that's

2676
01:56:40,960 --> 01:56:43,880
essentially it um as far as those

2677
01:56:43,880 --> 01:56:47,719
changes and uh and and I'm happy to send

2678
01:56:47,719 --> 01:56:51,159
around the digital version um as well uh

2679
01:56:51,159 --> 01:56:53,119
that that has the two other tabs that

2680
01:56:53,119 --> 01:56:54,719
like I said go into payroll and the

2681
01:56:54,719 --> 01:56:58,119
other items um so that that's where we

2682
01:56:58,119 --> 01:57:03,000
ended up so if a a the revenue to cover

2683
01:57:03,000 --> 01:57:07,239
all that um fully would be 68334 which

2684
01:57:07,239 --> 01:57:10,400
it would be a 26.6% increase over the

2685
01:57:10,400 --> 01:57:14,800
existing year um uh it it isn't touching

2686
01:57:14,800 --> 01:57:17,480
what I see as the 2841 of the end cash

2687
01:57:17,480 --> 01:57:19,440
ending balance that I anticipated at the

2688
01:57:19,440 --> 01:57:21,800
end of this year so it would retain that

2689
01:57:21,800 --> 01:57:23,239
um I think it's good to have a little

2690
01:57:23,239 --> 01:57:26,159
bit of money in the bank um uh and I

2691
01:57:26,159 --> 01:57:27,679
also think that there's a possibility

2692
01:57:27,679 --> 01:57:28,639
that we could have some money in the

2693
01:57:28,639 --> 01:57:29,960
bank at the end of the year if we don't

2694
01:57:29,960 --> 01:57:32,880
fully utilize all the h u the Sor of the

2695
01:57:32,880 --> 01:57:36,920
deductible umh but that's to be seen um

2696
01:57:36,920 --> 01:57:39,480
so this budget does not fill the coffers

2697
01:57:39,480 --> 01:57:41,760
it does not put us in a position going

2698
01:57:41,760 --> 01:57:46,880
forward um to to have more um you know a

2699
01:57:46,880 --> 01:57:49,040
stronger place to to to come from or to

2700
01:57:49,040 --> 01:57:51,199
fall back if there are errors I'd like

2701
01:57:51,199 --> 01:57:52,880
to think that there aren't erors in here

2702
01:57:52,880 --> 01:57:54,360
but you

2703
01:57:54,360 --> 01:57:57,920
know yeah yeah I guess like I understand

2704
01:57:57,920 --> 01:57:59,320
where you're coming from I'm also a

2705
01:57:59,320 --> 01:58:01,440
little concerned about making a decision

2706
01:58:01,440 --> 01:58:04,639
without having sugar but provide any

2707
01:58:04,639 --> 01:58:09,550
input I mean I guess they were here at

2708
01:58:09,560 --> 01:58:13,040
4:30 yeah suar haven't seen these numers

2709
01:58:13,040 --> 01:58:16,470
so far

2710
01:58:16,480 --> 01:58:18,560
right I just think they should give you

2711
01:58:18,560 --> 01:58:23,069
back glasses

2712
01:58:23,079 --> 01:58:24,760
we can we can have that vote right

2713
01:58:24,760 --> 01:58:26,760
because they don't vote anyway so we can

2714
01:58:26,760 --> 01:58:31,239
all vote they have to get pass it as

2715
01:58:31,239 --> 01:58:33,880
well now I I must say that I had a

2716
01:58:33,880 --> 01:58:36,639
philosophical uh challenge when I was

2717
01:58:36,639 --> 01:58:39,280
told originally that uh the job came

2718
01:58:39,280 --> 01:58:41,760
with a pass because I had always seen

2719
01:58:41,760 --> 01:58:43,360
this as equal contributions from the

2720
01:58:43,360 --> 01:58:45,119
four different funders and that they

2721
01:58:45,119 --> 01:58:46,480
were giving something more that the

2722
01:58:46,480 --> 01:58:48,639
others were not uh providing and I

2723
01:58:48,639 --> 01:58:50,599
remember calling Jared Cadwell and being

2724
01:58:50,599 --> 01:58:52,199
like hey they're offer me a like can I

2725
01:58:52,199 --> 01:58:53,880
do this and he was like if you don't

2726
01:58:53,880 --> 01:58:56,440
take an eye will Josh you better get

2727
01:58:56,440 --> 01:58:59,280
after that so um I mean I honestly think

2728
01:58:59,280 --> 01:59:01,520
that it being being paid paid across is

2729
01:59:01,520 --> 01:59:05,400
a more Equitable way but um

2730
01:59:05,400 --> 01:59:08,760
yeah I mean so you know I'm no I'm not a

2731
01:59:08,760 --> 01:59:11,760
budget I'm not a budget guy in terms of

2732
01:59:11,760 --> 01:59:14,960
my responsibilities in the town yeah

2733
01:59:14,960 --> 01:59:17,599
um but I mean big picture having thought

2734
01:59:17,599 --> 01:59:22,639
about this we've seen the work plan it's a two staff work

2735
01:59:22,639 --> 01:59:25,800
plan I you know I don't see how we're an

2736
01:59:25,800 --> 01:59:28,760
effective planning district without both

2737
01:59:28,760 --> 01:59:32,360
of you you know across from me so you

2738
01:59:32,360 --> 01:59:35,079
know I mean I could see okay you know it

2739
01:59:35,079 --> 01:59:37,320
be like take off 90% of the work plan

2740
01:59:37,320 --> 01:59:39,639
and support weights field we could do

2741
01:59:39,639 --> 01:59:41,840
that but you know I don't think that's a

2742
01:59:41,840 --> 01:59:43,639
long-term recipe for Success from

2743
01:59:43,639 --> 01:59:46,079
planning district so maybe easy for me

2744
01:59:46,079 --> 01:59:47,239
to say because I'm on the Planning

2745
01:59:47,239 --> 01:59:52,800
Commission but I I think it's you know

2746
01:59:52,800 --> 01:59:56,280
I guess I'm with Chuck I'm like I don't I mean it seems like you you've

2747
01:59:56,280 --> 02:00:00,000
done the numbers and I sort of a radical

2748
02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:02,239
revamp of our Ambitions as a planning

2749
02:00:02,239 --> 02:00:05,360
district or our not Ambitions but what

2750
02:00:05,360 --> 02:00:09,239
we can do I don't I'm not seeing an easy

2751
02:00:09,239 --> 02:00:11,800
I'm not seeing another path and I do

2752
02:00:11,800 --> 02:00:13,880
think it's really I do think Sam's

2753
02:00:13,880 --> 02:00:16,040
contributions to be very clear I think

2754
02:00:16,040 --> 02:00:18,280
Sam's contributions have been extremely

2755
02:00:18,280 --> 02:00:21,119
valuable um and and are highly you know

2756
02:00:21,119 --> 02:00:23,920
are just really iated in the community

2757
02:00:23,920 --> 02:00:26,199
um of course as our Joshua's you know

2758
02:00:26,199 --> 02:00:29,719
but um yeah I don't know well as the guy

2759
02:00:29,719 --> 02:00:31,400
from the town without a Town

2760
02:00:31,400 --> 02:00:33,400
Administrator and a sewer

2761
02:00:33,400 --> 02:00:37,079
project you know I'm

2762
02:00:37,079 --> 02:00:39,320
not we're certainly benefiting from the

2763
02:00:39,320 --> 02:00:41,199
planing District I acknowledge that and

2764
02:00:41,199 --> 02:00:43,440
I agree with you about Sam's work I

2765
02:00:43,440 --> 02:00:45,760
second I second what Dad saiding too as

2766
02:00:45,760 --> 02:00:47,119
just the planning guy and not having to

2767
02:00:47,119 --> 02:00:50,159
worry about budges and not sitting you

2768
02:00:50,159 --> 02:00:53,000
know fortunately not having

2769
02:00:53,000 --> 02:00:56,109
do what Chuck

2770
02:00:56,119 --> 02:00:58,960
does we also did agree that we wanted to

2771
02:00:58,960 --> 02:01:01,199
bring the

2772
02:01:01,199 --> 02:01:05,440
um Health Equitable more or less with

2773
02:01:05,440 --> 02:01:07,560
the communities but we didn't want we

2774
02:01:07,560 --> 02:01:12,119
need that going to take time and um we

2775
02:01:12,119 --> 02:01:14,480
don't want it to come with a big hit in

2776
02:01:14,480 --> 02:01:17,159
any year to staff that it needs to be

2777
02:01:17,159 --> 02:01:18,800
something that's careful and that

2778
02:01:18,800 --> 02:01:21,520
doesn't doesn't you know cause any

2779
02:01:21,520 --> 02:01:24,159
Financial hardship so that's like a

2780
02:01:24,159 --> 02:01:26,480
Year's project out we'll have to figure

2781
02:01:26,480 --> 02:01:28,800
out how to allocate things coming

2782
02:01:28,800 --> 02:01:32,159
forward what do you think Andrew so it

2783
02:01:32,159 --> 02:01:34,520
would be best if sh wor was here but

2784
02:01:34,520 --> 02:01:37,280
again they really don't get a vote so

2785
02:01:37,280 --> 02:01:41,199
they do you know they march to our tune

2786
02:01:41,199 --> 02:01:44,520
right till they don't they always have

2787
02:01:44,520 --> 02:01:47,159
yeah and it was on the

2788
02:01:47,159 --> 02:01:49,199
agenda so under how how do you think

2789
02:01:49,199 --> 02:01:52,079
this is going to be take seen in in the

2790
02:01:52,079 --> 02:01:54,119
W and there's going to be some long

2791
02:01:54,119 --> 02:01:55,760
faces

2792
02:01:55,760 --> 02:01:59,760
in we're we're we're we're finding like

2793
02:01:59,760 --> 02:02:02,400
probably everyone is that everything

2794
02:02:02,400 --> 02:02:06,239
costs more this year and last year but

2795
02:02:06,239 --> 02:02:08,840
um holding the line right everyone's

2796
02:02:08,840 --> 02:02:11,920
upset about their property taxes so we

2797
02:02:11,920 --> 02:02:16,440
want to uh offer a budget that is less

2798
02:02:16,440 --> 02:02:21,159
painful and it is just really hard to do

2799
02:02:21,159 --> 02:02:24,280
everybody wants everybody wants a race

2800
02:02:24,280 --> 02:02:28,440
everybody wants uh you know um you know

2801
02:02:28,440 --> 02:02:32,199
the U the dictionaries all have their word of the Year this year it's

2802
02:02:32,199 --> 02:02:37,119
Merit race that's the word of the year

2803
02:02:37,119 --> 02:02:38,679
um

2804
02:02:38,679 --> 02:02:41,560
so trying to hold the line on the budget

2805
02:02:41,560 --> 02:02:46,760
is really ludicrous this year it's just

2806
02:02:46,760 --> 02:02:49,800
not happening and I think we're going to

2807
02:02:49,800 --> 02:02:52,760
find that at the state level as well so

2808
02:02:52,760 --> 02:02:56,199
get ready for it um they'll pull some

2809
02:02:56,199 --> 02:02:58,000
pocus pocus but it's still coming out of

2810
02:02:58,000 --> 02:03:01,679
our asses anyway uh that being

2811
02:03:01,679 --> 02:03:05,840
said um I I don't see any reason not to

2812
02:03:05,840 --> 02:03:08,280
vote on the budget tonight and then

2813
02:03:08,280 --> 02:03:11,000
bring it back to our our groups and see

2814
02:03:11,000 --> 02:03:14,679
what we get for feedback and if we have

2815
02:03:14,679 --> 02:03:17,400
a big c buffle we'll be talking more

2816
02:03:17,400 --> 02:03:19,520
about it here

2817
02:03:19,520 --> 02:03:22,679
M you see a sameway Clos

2818
02:03:22,679 --> 02:03:25,040
yeah what's you see the same way I me us

2819
02:03:25,040 --> 02:03:29,400
back to facing as it is yeah yeah yeah I mean as Andy said they'll be long

2820
02:03:29,400 --> 02:03:33,360
faces but um there's so much going on

2821
02:03:33,360 --> 02:03:36,360
with payroll with us with road crew and

2822
02:03:36,360 --> 02:03:38,679
you know backfilling the Patty Lewis

2823
02:03:38,679 --> 02:03:40,560
leaving his town clerk so we had to have

2824
02:03:40,560 --> 02:03:47,360
extra people on for that so um yeah it's everywhere yeah it's everything

2825
02:03:47,360 --> 02:03:48,880
everywhere all the time yeah this

2826
02:03:48,880 --> 02:03:54,320
shouldn't be a there shouldn't be a hard set so the problem everything

2827
02:03:54,320 --> 02:03:56,440
planning district does especially in FA

2828
02:03:56,440 --> 02:03:59,000
like I I mean with with with just the

2829
02:03:59,000 --> 02:04:02,199
reaction to to the events in July to the

2830
02:04:02,199 --> 02:04:05,480
flooding right and and the and the

2831
02:04:05,480 --> 02:04:07,960
immediate reaction and the work that

2832
02:04:07,960 --> 02:04:09,480
these two guys did from face it

2833
02:04:09,480 --> 02:04:14,719
shouldn't be yeah long faces but if so a

2834
02:04:14,719 --> 02:04:17,480
hire gun to come in there and argue well

2835
02:04:17,480 --> 02:04:18,800
let me let me tell you the piece you're

2836
02:04:18,800 --> 02:04:22,079
missing here is that you're a point yeah

2837
02:04:22,079 --> 02:04:23,159
we're

2838
02:04:23,159 --> 02:04:25,239
elected that's where the rubber meets

2839
02:04:25,239 --> 02:04:26,880
the road they're not going to piss and

2840
02:04:26,880 --> 02:04:28,880
moan at you at down

2841
02:04:28,880 --> 02:04:32,719
meeting yeah no I know in the in I got I

2842
02:04:32,719 --> 02:04:34,639
said that I said I don't have

2843
02:04:34,639 --> 02:04:36,000
fortunately I'm not sitting I'm not

2844
02:04:36,000 --> 02:04:38,000
sitting where you know I don't have but

2845
02:04:38,000 --> 02:04:39,480
that's that's why we make the big money

2846
02:04:39,480 --> 02:04:41,520
too yeah

2847
02:04:41,520 --> 02:04:48,480
exctly but I mean if you needed if if if you need somebody to add your back

2848
02:04:48,480 --> 02:04:52,280
and I'm happy to I mean whatever thank

2849
02:04:52,280 --> 02:04:54,559
you you know and and probably just to

2850
02:04:54,559 --> 02:04:57,360
clarify the long faces it's not going to

2851
02:04:57,360 --> 02:05:01,360
be that they would deny this

2852
02:05:01,360 --> 02:05:05,400
request one more one more know exactly

2853
02:05:05,400 --> 02:05:08,760
one more quill exactly yeah exactly I

2854
02:05:08,760 --> 02:05:11,000
think what makes it harder is that there

2855
02:05:11,000 --> 02:05:14,040
were so many years with no bump yeah it

2856
02:05:14,040 --> 02:05:16,280
was complacent and then we had one last

2857
02:05:16,280 --> 02:05:18,000
year it's like oh okay I hope that's

2858
02:05:18,000 --> 02:05:20,199
going to do it for you for a while but

2859
02:05:20,199 --> 02:05:21,880
and you know we thought that it might it

2860
02:05:21,880 --> 02:05:25,320
didn't and but it's also an era of just

2861
02:05:25,320 --> 02:05:27,559
huge inflation in the last five years

2862
02:05:27,559 --> 02:05:30,079
yeah the property taxes we don't know

2863
02:05:30,079 --> 02:05:32,639
when the end of that bump is coming so

2864
02:05:32,639 --> 02:05:34,840
it's just every year is a surprise but

2865
02:05:34,840 --> 02:05:37,800
we should know it's coming but you know

2866
02:05:37,800 --> 02:05:39,760
everything's gonna get better next

2867
02:05:39,760 --> 02:05:43,400
year I I can tell you from I'm on the

2868
02:05:43,400 --> 02:05:46,320
teacher's pension retirement system GFR

2869
02:05:46,320 --> 02:05:48,599
pointy and every you know the the

2870
02:05:48,599 --> 02:05:50,800
actuaries assumption for the growth in

2871
02:05:50,800 --> 02:05:52,360
healthcare costs

2872
02:05:52,360 --> 02:05:55,239
is it's going to it's going to stop

2873
02:05:55,239 --> 02:05:56,639
because every year he says it's it's

2874
02:05:56,639 --> 02:05:58,920
going to stop because it has to stop we

2875
02:05:58,920 --> 02:06:01,239
can't afford this yeah it becomes it's

2876
02:06:01,239 --> 02:06:03,480
unaffordable yeah so you know we're

2877
02:06:03,480 --> 02:06:05,280
going to build an assumption that the C

2878
02:06:05,280 --> 02:06:06,800
that you know that healthcare costs are

2879
02:06:06,800 --> 02:06:09,040
going to stop

2880
02:06:09,040 --> 02:06:12,719
Rising okay and then and then they come

2881
02:06:12,719 --> 02:06:15,920
in and they're 7% higher or 10% higher

2882
02:06:15,920 --> 02:06:18,239
or 20% high as long as there's money in

2883
02:06:18,239 --> 02:06:23,679
your wallet they're going to come for it seems is a very pragmatic perspective

2884
02:06:23,679 --> 02:06:25,800
here as you said that you know we've got

2885
02:06:25,800 --> 02:06:27,719
W enough work for these two guys we've

2886
02:06:27,719 --> 02:06:29,199
got tremendous respect for the work

2887
02:06:29,199 --> 02:06:30,760
they're doing you know individually and

2888
02:06:30,760 --> 02:06:34,199
from the three towns um 90% of the costs

2889
02:06:34,199 --> 02:06:36,159
here are supporting these two guys so if

2890
02:06:36,159 --> 02:06:37,400
we want the work to be done this is the

2891
02:06:37,400 --> 02:06:39,119
budget I mean there's not much to

2892
02:06:39,119 --> 02:06:42,440
discuss well I will also say that I

2893
02:06:42,440 --> 02:06:45,639
while I I do think I'm going to get here

2894
02:06:45,639 --> 02:06:47,880
about the health care issue um I don't

2895
02:06:47,880 --> 02:06:49,920
think that our salaries are extra are

2896
02:06:49,920 --> 02:06:52,239
extravagant

2897
02:06:52,239 --> 02:06:54,079
I mean I think you guys are are worth

2898
02:06:54,079 --> 02:06:56,400
the salary you're getting and you said

2899
02:06:56,400 --> 02:06:58,639
the healthare isn't

2900
02:06:58,639 --> 02:07:02,679
even on a par with with Town employees

2901
02:07:02,679 --> 02:07:06,520
right uh no I think that is the coverage

2902
02:07:06,520 --> 02:07:09,599
is is on a par yeah the coverage is on

2903
02:07:09,599 --> 02:07:13,599
par there's just the 100%

2904
02:07:13,599 --> 02:07:16,760
employer contribution is unusual right

2905
02:07:16,760 --> 02:07:19,559
yeah so would the chair hear a motion of

2906
02:07:19,559 --> 02:07:23,960
uh approval for for the budget as given

2907
02:07:23,960 --> 02:07:25,679
yeah I'm not gonna if the consensus is

2908
02:07:25,679 --> 02:07:28,400
to move forward uh I'll take is there a

2909
02:07:28,400 --> 02:07:29,850
second for

2910
02:07:29,850 --> 02:07:31,520
[Music]

2911
02:07:31,520 --> 02:07:35,920
that seconded yeah uh any discussion all

2912
02:07:35,920 --> 02:07:40,790
in favor I

2913
02:07:40,800 --> 02:07:43,840
unanimous thank you uh Josh I know the

2914
02:07:43,840 --> 02:07:45,679
amount of time that you put into not

2915
02:07:45,679 --> 02:07:48,000
only that but it's totally uncomfortable

2916
02:07:48,000 --> 02:07:51,199
uh dealing you know on the budget which

2917
02:07:51,199 --> 02:07:58,079
is all about you two guys yes so we we understand that uncom discomfort and

2918
02:07:58,079 --> 02:08:02,400
uh you you've done well to uh to set it

2919
02:08:02,400 --> 02:08:04,960
out for us thank you yeah well thank you

2920
02:08:04,960 --> 02:08:06,920
for recognizing that it is uncomfortable

2921
02:08:06,920 --> 02:08:08,360
right it is

2922
02:08:08,360 --> 02:08:10,760
UN talking about themselves well some

2923
02:08:10,760 --> 02:08:12,199
people like

2924
02:08:12,199 --> 02:08:15,079
talking I don't uh but I don't mind

2925
02:08:15,079 --> 02:08:16,800
talking that must time for the round

2926
02:08:16,800 --> 02:08:22,790
table now but also

2927
02:08:22,800 --> 02:08:25,239
we conflict of interest thing to discuss

2928
02:08:25,239 --> 02:08:28,679
here yes yes can we do that if there's

2929
02:08:28,679 --> 02:08:31,480
it depends on how people I'm I'm pretty

2930
02:08:31,480 --> 02:08:33,760
cooked so well save it for another

2931
02:08:33,760 --> 02:08:36,760
meeting yeah yeah I mean let save it for

2932
02:08:36,760 --> 02:08:39,239
another meeting that's fine I just

2933
02:08:39,239 --> 02:08:42,320
realiz go around oh save that for

2934
02:08:42,320 --> 02:08:44,480
another time no save the conflict of

2935
02:08:44,480 --> 02:08:47,599
interest from the time oh yeah sure um

2936
02:08:47,599 --> 02:08:49,400
the only if everyone has read it and

2937
02:08:49,400 --> 02:08:51,159
said great I mean we can vote on it but

2938
02:08:51,159 --> 02:08:52,239
sure

2939
02:08:52,239 --> 02:08:53,599
if we have to discuss it let's if we

2940
02:08:53,599 --> 02:08:57,800
have to discuss it yeah let's do another

2941
02:08:57,800 --> 02:09:00,719
okay table I think you I've covered you

2942
02:09:00,719 --> 02:09:02,719
know we talked about the the shortterm

2943
02:09:02,719 --> 02:09:04,559
rals in the hands of the select board we

2944
02:09:04,559 --> 02:09:07,159
have you know we've invited Josh to come

2945
02:09:07,159 --> 02:09:10,239
talk about housing that's kind of what's

2946
02:09:10,239 --> 02:09:12,920
and and um you know at some point we're

2947
02:09:12,920 --> 02:09:14,000
going to get a report from our

2948
02:09:14,000 --> 02:09:15,840
consultant so we can have our public

2949
02:09:15,840 --> 02:09:18,880
meeting on the lers and of Warrant then

2950
02:09:18,880 --> 02:09:22,159
commission can I ask question of the

2951
02:09:22,159 --> 02:09:25,679
board um sure as part of my discussion

2952
02:09:25,679 --> 02:09:28,079
here so we're to the point now where

2953
02:09:28,079 --> 02:09:31,440
we're we're we sent out rfps for the

2954
02:09:31,440 --> 02:09:32,880
bridge of design for the permanent

2955
02:09:32,880 --> 02:09:35,280
bridges in town to replace the

2956
02:09:35,280 --> 02:09:37,960
Temporaries that just get put in we only

2957
02:09:37,960 --> 02:09:40,760
had one response okay Not Unusual in

2958
02:09:40,760 --> 02:09:42,000
today's

2959
02:09:42,000 --> 02:09:45,360
environment the response didn't have any

2960
02:09:45,360 --> 02:09:50,119
dollar quote on it it's it's a 3 to 5%

2961
02:09:50,119 --> 02:09:53,040
of the total construction cost of the

2962
02:09:53,040 --> 02:09:55,480
bridge once it's built now we're being

2963
02:09:55,480 --> 02:09:57,360
told the FEMA accepts that we're trying

2964
02:09:57,360 --> 02:09:59,280
to follow up on that now to see if in

2965
02:09:59,280 --> 02:10:03,040
fact it does but we all know as Towns at

2966
02:10:03,040 --> 02:10:06,159
least we have never voted on accepting

2967
02:10:06,159 --> 02:10:10,400
an RFB proposal without a solid dollar

2968
02:10:10,400 --> 02:10:12,679
amount attached to it and I don't know

2969
02:10:12,679 --> 02:10:16,079
if in your work with these F over time

2970
02:10:16,079 --> 02:10:21,440
never heard of it okay who's the um

2971
02:10:21,440 --> 02:10:24,360
I'm trying to think of the name

2972
02:10:24,360 --> 02:10:27,360
now it's not coming to me I you hadn't

2973
02:10:27,360 --> 02:10:31,440
asked him yeah um so we get a response

2974
02:10:31,440 --> 02:10:32,960
back from them so well Fe you know

2975
02:10:32,960 --> 02:10:35,079
FEMA's good with this you can check with

2976
02:10:35,079 --> 02:10:37,960
them which like I said we're doing but

2977
02:10:37,960 --> 02:10:40,480
I've never approved anything without a a

2978
02:10:40,480 --> 02:10:42,960
budget number attached to it so I I

2979
02:10:42,960 --> 02:10:44,360
don't know I didn't know if any of you

2980
02:10:44,360 --> 02:10:47,360
had I never heard of that okay it sounds

2981
02:10:47,360 --> 02:10:48,920
extra squishy if they're just giving you

2982
02:10:48,920 --> 02:10:50,880
a range of three to five and it can't

2983
02:10:50,880 --> 02:10:52,079
even

2984
02:10:52,079 --> 02:10:54,920
well yeah that was to try to give us an

2985
02:10:54,920 --> 02:10:56,599
estimate but we don't even know what the

2986
02:10:56,599 --> 02:10:59,639
cost of the construction will be so

2987
02:10:59,639 --> 02:11:01,320
that's not even a good estimate I mean

2988
02:11:01,320 --> 02:11:03,480
there's certainly Cost Plus contracts

2989
02:11:03,480 --> 02:11:05,440
but I don't see how a town

2990
02:11:05,440 --> 02:11:12,480
can it seems like the Builder have you the only resource I can think

2991
02:11:12,480 --> 02:11:13,920
of is the Vermont League of cities and

2992
02:11:13,920 --> 02:11:16,520
towns yeah yeah is just consult with

2993
02:11:16,520 --> 02:11:19,559
them and say hey is this yeah see if

2994
02:11:19,559 --> 02:11:22,119
they have any experience okay thank you

2995
02:11:22,119 --> 02:11:23,559
I was hoping somebody said oh yeah

2996
02:11:23,559 --> 02:11:25,440
that's what happened to

2997
02:11:25,440 --> 02:11:28,599
us okay you might you might also talk to

2998
02:11:28,599 --> 02:11:30,679
I don't know Barry City or somewhere who

2999
02:11:30,679 --> 02:11:33,199
has recently done a lot of female work

3000
02:11:33,199 --> 02:11:34,800
say is that what you're hearing I mean

3001
02:11:34,800 --> 02:11:37,000
is that true because maybe they're like

3002
02:11:37,000 --> 02:11:40,480
yep that's the way it is and then you'll get

3003
02:11:40,480 --> 02:11:43,000
your yeah well you know and also for us

3004
02:11:43,000 --> 02:11:45,480
for budgeting um we're going to need to

3005
02:11:45,480 --> 02:11:46,639
know if they're going to ask us some

3006
02:11:46,639 --> 02:11:49,960
money next year the year after you know

3007
02:11:49,960 --> 02:11:53,040
retainer kind of money and and we have

3008
02:11:53,040 --> 02:11:57,199
nothing to base that on so yeah okay

3009
02:11:57,199 --> 02:12:00,400
thank you Peter yeah my run table lik to

3010
02:12:00,400 --> 02:12:02,800
be discussed which was getting next step

3011
02:12:02,800 --> 02:12:07,280
on the health center so that's it well I

3012
02:12:07,280 --> 02:12:09,679
no given the way I we had a meeting end

3013
02:12:09,679 --> 02:12:11,880
of November we're we're going round in

3014
02:12:11,880 --> 02:12:14,920
circles on on um trails and Trail

3015
02:12:14,920 --> 02:12:16,840
building and stuff we got one member on

3016
02:12:16,840 --> 02:12:20,320
our commission that um likes to sew

3017
02:12:20,320 --> 02:12:22,239
conflict and so we're just working

3018
02:12:22,239 --> 02:12:24,400
through some of that stuff and we um we

3019
02:12:24,400 --> 02:12:26,360
tabled our December meeting because of

3020
02:12:26,360 --> 02:12:30,159
all the um all the um time and space

3021
02:12:30,159 --> 02:12:32,320
requirements of the select board on the

3022
02:12:32,320 --> 02:12:34,040
budget so we're not meeting until

3023
02:12:34,040 --> 02:12:37,239
January so oh I saw that yeah we get

3024
02:12:37,239 --> 02:12:40,960
invitation come with yeah yeah okay

3025
02:12:40,960 --> 02:12:43,079
which I I will be able to go to that by

3026
02:12:43,079 --> 02:12:45,840
the way yeah and you should yeah and

3027
02:12:45,840 --> 02:12:51,910
we'll talk yeah

3028
02:12:51,920 --> 02:12:56,760
good good any well if you haven't heard

3029
02:12:56,760 --> 02:12:59,639
no I am I am rounding the bend on my

3030
02:12:59,639 --> 02:13:00,679
final

3031
02:13:00,679 --> 02:13:04,719
lap and uh not running for office in

3032
02:13:04,719 --> 02:13:08,960
that town uh and neither is Luke ell so

3033
02:13:08,960 --> 02:13:10,880
we're going to lose our chair and vice

3034
02:13:10,880 --> 02:13:24,760
chair uh to uh to uh hment exhaustion how many years 17 oh wow not quite what Jared did yeah you

3035
02:13:24,760 --> 02:13:27,119
don't want to hang around well yeah I

3036
02:13:27,119 --> 02:13:29,760
see you know he's old and decrepit now I

3037
02:13:29,760 --> 02:13:31,239
just I see it

3038
02:13:31,239 --> 02:13:34,559
coming get out while you can with last

3039
02:13:34,559 --> 02:13:37,599
year it's the continuity is so so yes we

3040
02:13:37,599 --> 02:13:39,800
are we are concerned about continuity

3041
02:13:39,800 --> 02:13:41,960
but uh

3042
02:13:41,960 --> 02:13:46,119
um change is good change is important

3043
02:13:46,119 --> 02:13:50,400
and so yeah so that's that's kind of the news and I don't know if it's out

3044
02:13:50,400 --> 02:13:52,320
there yet but I assume some people know

3045
02:13:52,320 --> 02:13:54,840
about it any indications to who's

3046
02:13:54,840 --> 02:13:57,719
interested in running uh we have a few

3047
02:13:57,719 --> 02:13:59,119
names

3048
02:13:59,119 --> 02:14:02,520
and but no nobody nobody's leaping in

3049
02:14:02,520 --> 02:14:04,320
yet but we'll see do you nominate for

3050
02:14:04,320 --> 02:14:08,079
the floor or no no do nope we uh

3051
02:14:08,079 --> 02:14:09,800
Australian ballot

3052
02:14:09,800 --> 02:14:14,520
from the day so uh nominated has to be I

3053
02:14:14,520 --> 02:14:17,199
think by the about the 25th of

3054
02:14:17,199 --> 02:14:20,199
January Monday what's the criteria for

3055
02:14:20,199 --> 02:14:22,559
nomination how you so many people sign

3056
02:14:22,559 --> 02:14:26,559
you have to get 15 people to sign a

3057
02:14:26,559 --> 02:14:30,040
petition W than 15 people that like you

3058
02:14:30,040 --> 02:14:32,760
it's amazing

3059
02:14:32,760 --> 02:14:37,950
yeah cost about 150

3060
02:14:37,960 --> 02:14:42,549
bucks the old boys

3061
02:14:42,559 --> 02:14:45,639
club easy now 1 years that's one of the

3062
02:14:45,639 --> 02:14:47,119
reasons I'm leaving I get in trouble for

3063
02:14:47,119 --> 02:14:48,440
saying

3064
02:14:48,440 --> 02:14:51,520
things was that that I've the position

3065
02:14:51,520 --> 02:14:54,079
old girls

3066
02:14:54,079 --> 02:14:56,920
club sorry mind that's

3067
02:14:56,920 --> 02:14:59,559
anake follow follow you're right

3068
02:14:59,559 --> 02:15:05,199
corrected well all I've got is we're

3069
02:15:05,199 --> 02:15:07,440
only starting budget season and wait SPI

3070
02:15:07,440 --> 02:15:08,679
I'm meeting with the road commissioner

3071
02:15:08,679 --> 02:15:11,520
tomorrow to figure that out we are read

3072
02:15:11,520 --> 02:15:12,960
vertising Our Town Administrator

3073
02:15:12,960 --> 02:15:15,159
position so if you know anybody who

3074
02:15:15,159 --> 02:15:17,840
might not have town government

3075
02:15:17,840 --> 02:15:20,520
experience but just has the good skills

3076
02:15:20,520 --> 02:15:23,079
can handle up spreadsheet and good

3077
02:15:23,079 --> 02:15:25,400
personal skills and good head on their

3078
02:15:25,400 --> 02:15:27,119
shoulders send them our

3079
02:15:27,119 --> 02:15:30,639
way all right I'm out I don't do

3080
02:15:30,639 --> 02:15:33,000
spread and you are going to pave East

3081
02:15:33,000 --> 02:15:37,679
Warren Road next summer yes yes from

3082
02:15:37,679 --> 02:15:38,880
start to

3083
02:15:38,880 --> 02:15:41,520
finish I look forward to who's taking

3084
02:15:41,520 --> 02:15:44,000
notes

3085
02:15:44,000 --> 02:15:46,000
right transition at the moment which

3086
02:15:46,000 --> 02:15:47,280
across the time

3087
02:15:47,280 --> 02:15:50,239
boundary yes so with that I'll take a

3088
02:15:50,239 --> 02:15:54,880
motion to return so move second all in

3089
02:15:54,880 --> 02:15:59,800
favorable all right thank you all