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Okay, welcome to the September 15th, Mad River Valley Recreation District Board meeting.

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I'll put the go. We don't have any public here. On Zoom, we have Doug and there, otherwise we'll hear some absences.

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So we'll start with the draft minutes from last week, everyone have a chance to review those, any comments, any adjustments.

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You can go to your group.

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I'll second that.

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All in favor?

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Okay.

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All right.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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Right on to a matter of a report fair.

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Here you go.

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Yeah, so, um, lots to report. I just emailed you all some numbers that we got from our turf

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guy.

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Sorry, now I have to try to find it. I'm not sure what's going on here. Zoom seems

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to have completely taken over my computer.

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So I apologize.

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We could put it up on one of our screens.

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OK, that would be good.

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How about you?

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Close to you.

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And that's how to cute.

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It's cool.

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I can share it.

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All right.

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Good.

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And bear, I just did you see the email.

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I just sent you that C is not in there.

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That was a follow-up email.

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I said 10, for 20, 27.

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But I don't know when else is copied on it.

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OK.

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So that overseeding all seven acres would be 22, 50 and that would be in spring, so that's a 227 price.

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So anyway, what we're talking about is sort of different applications for the lacrosse end in the short term.

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because we're trying to get some more and better grasp growing. So this is Mark's proposal.

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And bear that, we asked him for like the very best you could do for the fields. And this is what he came back with.

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So I personally don't feel like we have to fertilize four times.

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I mean, you know, we have to fertilize,

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but we could decide to do it two or three times.

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So I just want everybody to know that that,

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because now this is shy of that, 2250.

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So with the end of that end.

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So it would be like up to 25,000, we're looking at it.

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If we do everything for turf only in 2027.

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that. That's a big bill, you know. Right and we have I think if we compare it to what

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happened, you know. And if we choose to fertilize for four applications,

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yeah. So point of

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$2,900 would be per application move out,

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we can throw, correct?

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Right.

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So when you add up all those numbers,

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you added in the $2,900, is it?

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So that's like sort of a double on the floor,

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letting it together, right?

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Yeah, it's gonna be one of the other, is that correct?

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Right, so the two numbers at the bottom $2,000, $21,000.

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Oh, okay, yeah.

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or $22,400.

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Gotcha.

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Yeah, okay, okay.

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We have to add the seed into this because we got it right.

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Exactly. So yeah.

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Are they willing to do this like all a car?

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Like if we can find donations or volunteer opportunities

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when they do willing to do like certain components

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or do they want to do the whole spend?

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I think Mark would be.

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He's I think he's very open to us doing

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as much as we can with volunteers and you know doing essentially whatever we need him to do.

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He's been he's been very accommodated and he really just wants to help. So yeah.

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So for example the aeration is that is that a one time how many times for aeration at once?

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twice. But it's total of like six grand. So and so yes, if you did a tweet fall

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hands, right. So that's an area that area that we might be able to. Well, that's the

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guy at GMVS was open to us using it. We just have to be able to somehow make it work.

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Right. That's a deep time narrator, which is slightly different than what

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Mark is proposing. Mark has a commercial stand on, but ride behind, erator, which is, I think, kind of somewhere between the deep-time erator that GMVS has and the backyard erator that Mike Nucci has been using.

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So, yes, we could get the deep-time aerator, but we were really looking at that for potentially just the lacrosse area where we really need to want to grow some grass.

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You know, the challenge is that we need to get it trailer to the park, and we would have to also trailer another tractor to pull it,

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because we wouldn't be able to pull it with our little tractor.

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So it's just a heavy left, so to speak.

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Anybody know, I mean, I have a trailer that

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couldn't transport it.

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Like, does anybody know Dave Partchorn very well?

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Like, he's not too far from there.

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When he have a tractor that he'd be willing to donate some time

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or trying to think of who else as like Ramsey

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or as pretty close to there, like who has big machinery

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that would be in that area that might have a tractor

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I think this is all good to be resourceful, but we are going to have to tell our insurance

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company we have volunteers using right now, we don't, we're not covered in that.

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So there is an extra cost to whatever we decide to do, need to be the bearers.

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I think it's something that we consider in subsequent years but to just get this all wrapped up.

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Yeah, because bears, when does I start to have Mark do what he's proposing here?

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Because what he's also proposing is after seeding, you have to water it every day.

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So that's already a huge...

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That is a huge lift because we, honestly, I don't think we actually could seed even all of the soccer fields in one day, right?

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So one round of the water wheel takes three to four hours, you know, so we could potentially,

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but it would be a huge lift for us to water the entire saw, all the soccer fields,

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the entire space every day for 10 days to get before the grass grows.

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So I have some concerns about that and I haven't really had a chance to wrap my brain around

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it.

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Yeah, this is for 2027, you're talking about because we're only doing aeration on the

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lacrosse fields, but we're talking about overseeing lacrosse fields, so we're only talking

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about watering every day, the lacrosse fields for 2026.

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That's correct, but that's still even if you're talking about watering all of the lacrosse

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That's three separate irrigation nozzles, three rounds of moving it each time takes four to five hours.

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We should probably actually extend the time that it's out there so that it's watering more in one round, watering for longer.

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Anyway, I don't know, do you have any thoughts on that, Kevin?

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I think we, all right, like Mark's planning for fall, I think if we do that, I've combined

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what he's done before that comes to just shy of $13,000 in the board.

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It had previously authorized, I think, a $20,000 for Turkey and its year.

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You have to add a thousand for the world testing.

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And then we can, let's get that underway, and then we can revisit the 2027 plan as a board,

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you know, a future meeting.

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Because there's questions about the type of real control use and that kind of thing.

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And maybe we can also explore help with the tractor and that kind of thing.

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So Doug would prepare to planning our budget for next year, though.

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We're looking at really having a preliminary look at our budget.

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Next meeting October and actually having a formal budget hearing on November.

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So trying to kind of die, I think we do have to anticipate what we will set aside.

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And it means, you know, kind of making a punchless of the questions that need to be researched so that we can get to what is the most reasonable ban for our book on this.

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And this, I, I don't think there's not, we haven't gotten more than one.

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But.

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No, too.

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Have the, from.

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Yeah, it was crazy high.

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Yeah.

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We're not going to work. I think Mark, you know, you guys are going to hear something like that.

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Yeah, it was more than done.

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It was fifty thousand dollars for one thousand.

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It was crazy.

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Is there any chance just thinking like when I see grass in my house, I would wait for like a weather window that's going to support it.

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Dude, do we think that we'll have that, like for instance, if we do that it was going to rain five out of seven days.

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I would really lighten the load on tears.

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Is he capable of pointing that way or is that not something

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that we could expect?

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Is all like we're gonna take away can give us

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or can we say like can we wait for what I window and that's you?

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Right.

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I think as far as I think Mark would work with us on that.

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Yes.

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It would be helpful.

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Because he, but he wants to get on with this pretty soon.

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He was recommending the fall treatments starting in the next couple weeks.

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So, you know, we're getting into fall. Hopefully we're going to have a little more rain and we have in the last two months.

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But one never knows. So we can certainly, you know, stay in touch with him and

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Um, aimed towards doing the overseeing prior to a, um, a wet, we're sure that would help a lot.

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It would help a lot. Yeah.

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Yeah.

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It's going to get soaked on Sunday with like a half inch.

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And then Monday's nice, but then the rest of the days are.

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But we really, we can't hit it until soccer is done.

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Is that right?

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Is that?

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Well, no, no, the lacrosse fields are, we essentially close the lacrosse fields till spring. So, the

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erration and overseeding really is just lacrosse fields. So, and we can't fertilize past October 15th

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first date. So, we've got a month. Yeah. And so, I think one thing, whether or not we're going to

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does kind of affect pricing and what we're going to do is, will we put pesticides on the fields

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again given that, you know, doing it properly this time with the 200 foot set back from that

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community. Well, or will we just not, we're just to analyze our seeding

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to see if we can get them feel it's better.

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I think that we all really have, like, the grub problem seems most perverse on the lacrosse

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end.

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That's also the end that's within the vocabulary for the well.

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So the only option we have is to use nematodes over there.

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In which case we might as well try them for the whole field.

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And we should see if it works, you know, I think it's work, try, rather than doing nothing.

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I agree.

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And I'd like to see us be as consistent with an eye to empathologically sound.

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Let me just ask you this, I thought you can't put anything within the 200 feet of the community.

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Well, I thought the, I thought that the, that name is very good sort of biological option was, okay, so research.

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Yeah, I think it's pesticides, Laura, that okay, that can't be within 200 feet of the well.

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All right, so we need to clarify that. And then what do you guys are leaning toward, you know,

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for analyzing twice a year, three times a year next year, four times, I mean.

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I would, you know, I think I'm sure that was the program I spent the past, but I wouldn't,

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yeah, I would be.

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I would object to starting with two, when I think that works. Yeah, the worst seems like a lot. We've always heard three is what's recommended. So, you know, Mark is always saying, like, the more you throw down the better, yeah, but I, as is in the go blog on it, I guess I would face it in and then, right. I think it can only get better, honestly.

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Um, uh, yeah, having said that, I don't know what my, you know, she's program ones.

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I know you've realized that at least once a year, maybe you can just do it in twice.

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No, I'm pretty sure I saw you once.

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I'll send this spring.

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Yeah, just don't go.

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And everybody knows he's not going to do any of that anymore.

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He sent us the email about that.

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So is the weed control, um, set up?

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Herbeside?

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I think, yeah, so I don't know that we would be doing any.

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herbicides given the well issue unless we wanted to market off and focus on. So we're really looking

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at fertilizer without weed. It's like the, yeah. Yeah. When ideally, if you get the grass to grow

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in a product out of the weeds, just what should happen. Right. A fun fact that I learned when we met with

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the state inspector guy is that as far as the state is concerned, herbicides and pesticides are

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all considered pesticides?

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Yeah, of course.

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I think, you know, I'm going, I think Kevin said this, like,

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I think maybe we tried twice.

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I think we go with Nematos.

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I think we consider it's due diligence.

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And then if we find that the Nematos are in effective,

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that's a conversation that we can bring up with

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leaders.

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Given what happened with the last instance,

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we can say, hey, we tried this biological method.

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that it didn't work in the way that we hoped, you know, that, that hopefully will, but, you know, and then I think at least it will be an improvement and that way it gives us also like a ramp up period for our budget.

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So we try to try to, and that is clearly not enough, then we know it's a plan for more of the following year, and we can sort of adjust the budget accordingly without taking it all in one big hit this next year.

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And Marx says the biggest factor is water.

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So I think we should figure out a way to get more volunteers,

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train them up and really next season,

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just have more water on the fields.

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Because it's not free, but if we're having volunteers doing it, it's nice to free.

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And of course you have a piece of huge difference.

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Yeah, and we have the equipment.

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So, bear, Kevin, let's strategize about how we might get some other people to

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join in the water team.

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We at bear had a really good meeting all the little kind, and I were there for the fields

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committee and a couple more volunteers to do watering at that meeting.

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Could it be something like, with little league, the parents rate the field after practices?

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Is it realistic where there could be some type of schedule per team that's scheduled at that time

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that, like, the last team to lead the field has a rotating parent, but it doesn't, and it just,

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or something, or is it, is it, yeah, I feel like, I mean, that's a possibility,

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the solar tower,

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the water reel and it has a battery so it should be able to run partly into the

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evening, but it's run out of juice like a part right through it and like to turn it off

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like at the end of the day just to make sure like the water is off yeah so I feel like

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we're kind of constrained to daylight hours and it's honestly with the watering we've been doing

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but see you pass well primarily in myself,

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like we've been hitting it super hard.

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I think we took, you see the weather forecast

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and the other's rain, the rain never comes.

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It's in the side of the water on that day.

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So I think one lesson is just hammered anyways.

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But I think it's really only a matter of another,

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very telling me if you think I'm wrong,

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I'm like three volunteers, you know.

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Martin, this works in the office across the street, and so

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he's with soccer association, he might be able to help.

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So I don't think it's like a huge left to get just a cup of more.

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Yeah.

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To jump in.

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I mean, I think that's an interesting thought, Luke, but I also am a little

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leary of sort of adding too many random people into the mix,

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because we're talking about the tractor that needs gas and the water wheel that is

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And you know, it's like it's um, I'd like to train up a core of, you know, six people who are just focused on that and not rely more on the coaches, because I know they're burdened already.

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Yeah, I just am cognizant that like part of Mike's tenure on this board was impacted by the fact that he was doing so much all the time.

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And for the sustainability of the folks that are doing this work, like it's amazing that people are willing to step up and do it.

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And you know, I just don't want to see people who are not doing it.

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Thank you. Good point.

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I think we'll find a couple more volunteers to help out of the rest of the fall, and then I think we can plan longer term, you know, through the spring season.

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Yeah, I agree.

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We're hoping you'll ever retire, you live just across the stream.

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You know, someone with a lot of time on this answer is like, does it never travel like the key for anything?

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You know, everybody.

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I have two members of a park-related questions

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when we're done with this chart discussion.

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Has there been an improvement in the LaCoste field, then?

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Huh?

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No, really.

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I mean, I think so.

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It's really enough, but there are still

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like patches that are great.

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You know, I think where the problem is,

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I mean, really, it's gonna be like,

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was that's where we want to get that grass growing. Well, we could also just decide to take

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a picture once a week or something like that and there's from the same standpoint. But there's

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a lot of ground grass there throughout the fields. I just said that was water. Yeah,

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I think

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next summer is like, we went to once over two weeks, let things kind of grow and save some money,

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but then when we came, it meant hot to get ready for the season. We've cut it extra short,

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then you're almost, you know, bottom of the place, I'm learning a lot about turf here,

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but bottom of the place, the place of grass or what's brown and shaded. So that's what's kind of,

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We'll see you all in the next one.

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It was recommended to us that we let the grass grow, you know, mo only every other week, but then, at the same time, you're not supposed to mo, at one time, more than, you know, a third of the

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grass stock at a time. So I think we just, when we asked Aiman to bring the blade down, I think

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it just, he brought it down too fast, essentially. But we, you know, so we should have eased into

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it over the course of a few more weeks, but we were getting a lot of complaints from soccer that

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the grass was too long, so there you go.

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So it seems like...

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On grass or grass, if we get in and to be amenable

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to being sensitive to the different areas

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that it's not like, but the grass grow a little bit longer.

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You know, so that it is when you cut it way down,

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it burns in the...

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So, right.

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Yeah, we just need to phase it in an earlier.

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I think that's summer.

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It's part of the way to handle it.

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Right.

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All right. Are you ready for my two questions? We go down to Earth?

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Okay, let's do it.

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I'm getting ready for it. Okay, so in correspondence with Mike Nucci, he was wondering why

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the mayor of her park feels manual wasn't on the website. And we've never had it on the website,

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but it made me think, do we want on the website?

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It is very out of date, but I should say this.

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It hasn't been looked at since he wrote it in 2017.

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So it makes it, we might want to keep everything

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most through the same, but I think there are changes

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that need to be made to it.

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So on that point, in the strategic plan,

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because we talked about trying to find a balance

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about how much information I'm at a river park

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and one proposal was, well let's not get to grain or let's direct them to the maintenance plan.

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So right now there's a link for it, which obligates us then to get it updated.

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And it could very least it needs to, I think it needs to be connected to the strategic plan.

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Yeah, yeah, I think that's good. But I think yeah, I think bear and Kevin just just read it.

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And then decide whether it's, you could take it on to update it, and I don't think you need

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to get the whole committee involved, there might be one or two topics that you need advice

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from the committee, or from the board, but, you know, it hasn't been adjusted, so, yeah.

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for my eyes on it before the next our next meeting or whatever in the next couple of weeks

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we can and hold it and the culvert so we're having the picture field meeting

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I'm looking at the kids playing soccer and they're so sweet and I look over to where the culvert is

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underneath is that you know a handicap accessible you know grass ramp with the railing down

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And there are younger siblings climbing through the corridor.

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It's about 25 feet long.

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It's about two feet or less than two feet diameter.

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And it just like did not look safe or good.

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And it filled with pride, right?

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It was drive.

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I mean, seasonally it's wet.

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So I assume kids don't crawl through it when it's wet.

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But you never know.

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I think that is a metal or plastic.

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It's concrete.

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Oh concrete.

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It is not intended as a plastered.

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So I think we should get grace on either end of it.

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I mean, I don't know.

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And here's a breeze getting caught in there.

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Yeah.

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I think we put a sign in.

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It says.

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Supervisor Children.

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I totally understand where you're coming from from a safety standpoint, Laura, but truly, if you add anything to the upstream side or the downstream side for that matter, you're just potentially adding flood issues to the field in that area because in a second anything you put on there could

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to back up that whole stream.

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But even if you did, what if you did just an X attached?

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I mean, that's not going to, you know, things are going to flow through that.

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I mean, or even one bar across.

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I mean, I'm just, I don't get to think as a safety issue because it's not that big.

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And some kids who's like a little bigger than his friends, and it happens all the time.

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I mean, those of you who are parents probably have seen it.

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It was the first time I saw it and I felt like, you know,

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that's one of the main attractions at the fields to make Americans.

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Well, I'm so sorry.

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And that makes me think in our grand plan, when we do a grant,

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we should maybe do a little place structure or something,

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because you guys, we would be responsible.

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We own this field.

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We know it's happening.

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I don't think we can do that.

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But we're not being negative.

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So, I think if it was a known hazard, but it means it's field given to her on a field.

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So, I mean, I might get a legal question.

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I think we want to protect the public, but.

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There's a lot of risks.

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There needs to be a moment and we have just been a public meeting, acknowledged that it could be hazard.

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So, I think that the very least there needs to be a sign.

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but this is not a place structure, but I would have the people that provide a place on how the sign is worth it, and actually it's a side of it.

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I think there's two things I think we can do is one, we still have outstanding questions for this stormwater permit.

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this is all connected, right, this is that we're not right.

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So I think I could 10 per of the photos and say,

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get your product through it, we want to see if the journey

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we could do to prevent that could be put,

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you know, it could have worked.

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I mean, if you put a bar for us, somebody can't crawl through it

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and then stuff isn't going to get,

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yeah, I'm not going to do it for, you know,

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So we're in primary.

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We're building offices.

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At the end of the year.

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Yeah, I think you can do some research on this.

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Yeah, sure, we're not the only people.

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Yeah, this happening.

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Yeah, yeah.

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And then the other thing is I can ask the LCT.

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I mean, that's where we get our insurance from.

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Maybe we go to the apartment and I can just.

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Saying, bunnies and just? Yeah, okay. Yeah, we're looking at the field's manual, we'll look into the attractive nuisance question.

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Good act. What measures would appropriate safeguard?

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A little if we gotta go for the legal advice.

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Yeah, exactly. Great. Okay. Good on the matter of work?

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Yeah, I'll just say that there's no jamboree's plan this year, so we shouldn't hear a told

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there shouldn't be like the parking nightmare, I think that's strong word, the issues that

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we have in the spring, but I'm going across and soccer, we're having a tournament play like

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at the same time.

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So, we're a couple, they just signages this year, we'll be sufficient, and we don't need

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Stewart's out there in a lot, directed.

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Great.

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Okay.

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Thank you, Bear.

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Have you done the need Paul?

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We've got some people about the kids playing in Warren instead of not ever park.

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A little kid's being moved to the Warren Kills and so far out there has been me.

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Have you mulling?

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Only for more time in families.

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Yeah. Well, I mean, that is an temporary situation, meaning because the software program has been using the LaCrosse fields,

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unbeknownst to me, or the direct district, but the soccer program was using the LaCrosse fields for little kids,

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which makes sense going forward.

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But until we get this turf thing figured out,

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it just made more sense to just not allow play.

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Yeah, it makes sense.

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I just curious.

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What it is, you know, my hope is that that would be

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a temporary situation.

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And then next year, we would have a nice turf

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on the LaCrosse fields.

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And we could talk to soccer and add a little bit to their lease

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for that. Those fields usage. That's my hope. And speaking of Lisa's, it came up at the meeting

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with the Fields Committee that they felt like it would be appropriate to increase Lisa's

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because our process on the turf are going up. We also said, we is a possibility we might need to ask

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across and soccer, to not request grants this year. We did that for the path and the

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riders when we were doing the big war act grant and all my time was going to all the big

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part of my time was going to that and they were benefiting mightily from that. So it's not exactly

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But it is, we're just going to have to look at them, budget.

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So I have a question on that matter, Laura, that I think that's a really interesting proposal.

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I saw the emails from Bethany Burjee, questioning it, which is also understandable.

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But just as far as the numbers go, if those, those two leagues don't apply for say their $5,000 grant for whatever,

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that's $10,000 of the grant fund, but then we would take that $10,000 out of the grant fund and allocate it to Mad River Park.

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We have to, otherwise someone else wouldn't apply for that.

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Exactly.

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We decide what money goes into the grant amount.

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So this is part of our October meeting as we, as you guys kind of sit through this

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and as a preliminary, as we look at consideration for my report, do we strip off some

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of the grant money to, and we could, you know, it could be that we allocate some of the

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grant money to the park. And everybody, all grant recipients are impacted somewhat by that,

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or we can turn around and say the users of the field are the ones that are going to be most impacted.

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Without the labor and I'm not trying to run away from the discussion at this point,

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other than to keep the meeting moving.

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God, does that make sense?

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As we look at the budget come October as our preliminary.

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This is the park budget is if it's going to be a big element.

429
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Well, we're basically looking at trying to find $20,000 a year for the parks, right?

430
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Close to that.

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And for this, we've kind of spent that reserve that we had at the park.

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have lost and fun money. We don't have maybe a little bit left, but only a few thousand.

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Yeah. So it's kind of an ongoing bigger issue and we can't get more money in unless we do

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something fundraising effort. So in the interim, we need to think of hard about what

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of increased leases would look like, what the income would be from that in terms of going

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towards the turf maintenance, and then ask ourselves what are our sources of revenue

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in order to bond the turf that never apart? How do we look at the grant program on our basis?

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Or is there a fucking an already doing annual fundraisers? Where will that revenue come from?

439
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and create a wish to drive the cost of turf work down, right?

440
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Exactly, exactly.

441
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We thought about school consolidation with the impact of the park.

442
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Sure.

443
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I think it was more used, but I think.

444
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Yeah.

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The school had cabinet.

446
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Yes.

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The cabinet.

448
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They're probably going to look to use the fields as a part of like their PE,

449
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because those are trying to build new fields.

450
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Yeah.

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00:36:24,310 --> 00:36:25,350
It could be a source of revenue.

452
00:36:25,350 --> 00:36:28,290
If they're going to use it, they would have to.

453
00:36:28,870 --> 00:36:37,450
Well, I mean, some contribution, if the uses, sorry, I'm putting everything out.

454
00:36:37,750 --> 00:36:46,110
It is on the list of everything out there, but I think the towns, the towns are paying for the school.

455
00:36:46,170 --> 00:36:47,990
The towns give us their money.

456
00:36:48,110 --> 00:36:51,430
It just seems to me that it would be a little awkward.

457
00:36:51,430 --> 00:37:03,470
And it towns would be a have a nose that I'm not going to like gym feeds. I mean, it's not that different from being charged for recreational program and using gyms and schools.

458
00:37:04,430 --> 00:37:14,950
It's just the opposite circumstance and that's happened with every elementary school gym that has a fee associated for recreational program.

459
00:37:14,950 --> 00:37:20,190
I don't, I mean, I'm not suggesting that's in the answer to it, but I think it is like,

460
00:37:20,590 --> 00:37:26,710
that we can increase, like, the amount of, like, feel time of every elementary kid

461
00:37:26,710 --> 00:37:29,810
between Warren and Waysfield and taste them.

462
00:37:30,110 --> 00:37:38,110
More town. That's a lot of fields, and that's now all going to be concentrated on fields that we're currently struggling to take care of.

463
00:37:39,590 --> 00:37:41,490
So, maybe we're in pretty serious substantial.

464
00:37:42,690 --> 00:37:46,370
Yeah, we are ahead of, we are way older than tips, of course.

465
00:37:46,530 --> 00:37:51,830
Yeah, yeah, there's a lot of, and that won't happen for a couple of years if they consolidate.

466
00:37:51,830 --> 00:37:52,790
That's it.

467
00:37:52,910 --> 00:37:54,290
I think the field's really down.

468
00:37:54,670 --> 00:37:54,990
Yeah.

469
00:37:54,990 --> 00:37:55,130
Yeah.

470
00:37:55,130 --> 00:37:55,870
I think the field's really down.

471
00:37:55,990 --> 00:37:56,010
Yeah.

472
00:37:56,010 --> 00:37:58,730
I think the field's really down.

473
00:38:00,010 --> 00:38:01,690
Anything else on my report?

474
00:38:01,910 --> 00:38:02,470
The references.

475
00:38:03,610 --> 00:38:04,350
Thank you.

476
00:38:04,550 --> 00:38:04,610
I know.

477
00:38:04,830 --> 00:38:06,750
That was, thank you for jumping in.

478
00:38:07,110 --> 00:38:07,590
I'm not reporting.

479
00:38:08,150 --> 00:38:08,850
Thank you for having me.

480
00:38:09,830 --> 00:38:09,970
Yeah.

481
00:38:10,110 --> 00:38:10,650
Thank you.

482
00:38:11,310 --> 00:38:11,950
Take your care.

483
00:38:12,390 --> 00:38:12,810
Thank you.

484
00:38:13,630 --> 00:38:13,810
Okay.

485
00:38:14,830 --> 00:38:16,090
Um, strategic plan.

486
00:38:16,190 --> 00:38:19,390
I don't know if you guys had a chance to take a look at it.

487
00:38:19,550 --> 00:38:20,150
Here it is.

488
00:38:20,150 --> 00:38:23,230
You get a chance to take a look.

489
00:38:23,670 --> 00:38:24,950
This is what's going to happen.

490
00:38:25,590 --> 00:38:26,070
Special.

491
00:38:27,350 --> 00:38:28,170
Make comments.

492
00:38:29,330 --> 00:38:29,790
Great.

493
00:38:30,110 --> 00:38:31,270
You want to pass it around.

494
00:38:31,290 --> 00:38:32,470
You can see what it looks like.

495
00:38:32,790 --> 00:38:33,270
Printed.

496
00:38:33,270 --> 00:38:34,810
It has rough draft.

497
00:38:35,750 --> 00:38:37,010
I will, you know.

498
00:38:37,190 --> 00:38:38,850
This doesn't have a late jacket on.

499
00:38:40,470 --> 00:38:40,530
Oh.

500
00:38:40,530 --> 00:38:41,550
What are you going to show me?

501
00:38:43,430 --> 00:38:46,050
I'm going to show you.

502
00:38:46,670 --> 00:38:47,510
I'm going to show you.

503
00:38:47,510 --> 00:38:48,450
I'm going to show you.

504
00:38:48,450 --> 00:38:48,910
I'm going to show you.

505
00:38:48,910 --> 00:38:49,270
I'm going to show you.

506
00:38:51,420 --> 00:38:51,760
I'm going to show you.

507
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:54,240
Yeah, I got actually if a good take, Molly.

508
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:59,160
I, you know, you know, you know, you know, that's where we're supposed to be.

509
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:00,780
You're just supposed to be just thinking about you.

510
00:39:00,980 --> 00:39:03,120
I'm going to get a kind of a launch of the state for me.

511
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:03,980
It's true.

512
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:05,060
I'll put a shot.

513
00:39:05,300 --> 00:39:06,940
It's a nice palette up.

514
00:39:07,500 --> 00:39:15,140
So, and if it's solid, then I will actually get it printed up and down.

515
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:18,520
So, you can have your own personal copies.

516
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:21,800
So, you will not put it on.

517
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:23,340
I showed you work on it, both of you.

518
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:24,000
That's what you did.

519
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:24,480
Yeah.

520
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:26,340
A lot of work.

521
00:39:27,820 --> 00:39:27,960
Good.

522
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:29,440
I was made it beautiful.

523
00:39:29,820 --> 00:39:32,820
I helped with content a long time ago, but she made it beautiful.

524
00:39:33,220 --> 00:39:38,120
And we tried to strike this compromise on Kevin on your great coverage, right?

525
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:38,680
It was.

526
00:39:38,820 --> 00:39:43,700
It was only like we had had too much detail, both to granular, then it went to bullets

527
00:39:43,700 --> 00:39:44,760
and then it was out of bounds.

528
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:46,480
I was proofing it.

529
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:47,400
I just thought, wait a minute.

530
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:53,300
This is a big part of our work, a part, and now it looks like, you know, if you just look, it's actually a little too small.

531
00:39:53,320 --> 00:40:04,600
So I have some license and edited, took the bullets and put in the necessary script out the detail that will be in the maintenance plan.

532
00:40:06,220 --> 00:40:10,000
Or the ration. So, okay, can you comment?

533
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:11,080
That's good.

534
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:16,780
Just so that I look at it in soccer, man, over and much, you look like a couple of little

535
00:40:16,780 --> 00:40:17,460
nits I found.

536
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:19,380
If I just send those to you, I don't know.

537
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:19,880
Yeah.

538
00:40:20,620 --> 00:40:20,740
Yeah.

539
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:29,980
I had to do, I worked in a, I had to work in a work document because it's much more user-friendly

540
00:40:29,980 --> 00:40:34,980
in terms of graphics and text boxes, and if I distributed the word document in somebody,

541
00:40:35,180 --> 00:40:35,480
I don't know.

542
00:40:35,720 --> 00:40:36,700
I moved to text box.

543
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:40,720
So that's what it's going to hurt me in a TV now,

544
00:40:41,060 --> 00:40:42,520
must edit friendly.

545
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:47,340
But that's into a page, to the net.

546
00:40:47,660 --> 00:40:48,320
I'm going to go pick.

547
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:52,320
OK, excellent.

548
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:56,600
Grab program, team, grab program.

549
00:40:57,620 --> 00:40:59,360
Well, we've really crossed this.

550
00:40:59,420 --> 00:41:01,960
I mean, from the moment we started in left meeting,

551
00:41:02,420 --> 00:41:04,540
it was, I don't know that we had, like, a moment

552
00:41:04,540 --> 00:41:06,460
Why aren't we reaching out on it?

553
00:41:08,260 --> 00:41:09,440
Do you have any questions?

554
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:11,000
I don't know.

555
00:41:13,260 --> 00:41:14,460
There's a few comments.

556
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:17,540
There's a few comments on it.

557
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:19,600
That were put in an August.

558
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:24,560
I mean, my read of it for me for this is that they're not substantive changes.

559
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:27,340
So I think the question for it is,

560
00:41:27,340 --> 00:41:30,200
do we have time to make this?

561
00:41:30,260 --> 00:41:33,020
Some of them are just breaking out a couple questions

562
00:41:33,020 --> 00:41:38,320
for our financial language, adding a budget template, do a whole, that's the direction we want

563
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:46,740
to go in. If we were out of time, then I would just change the date, go forward with it,

564
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:50,980
if we didn't do more than that. So it's kind of like, the budget template would be great.

565
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:57,460
I said, you know, on the example of it, but it seems like a lot of confusion about what does that look like?

566
00:41:57,620 --> 00:42:02,060
That's often the, that seems to me to be the thing that, I mean, we talked about this last

567
00:42:02,060 --> 00:42:06,020
but it seems like the thing that you asked for most is quite a patient on budgets.

568
00:42:08,260 --> 00:42:14,260
Yeah, I mean, just after a couple of problems from Molly, I created the dock and having

569
00:42:14,260 --> 00:42:21,120
things in, you may have lost the address. And then, yeah, most of it was just like, where

570
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:25,260
questions were redundant, either clarifying or getting more to the point for what you're looking

571
00:42:25,260 --> 00:42:32,860
work for my question or sort of consolidating? Really, I think, we shared that I think,

572
00:42:33,100 --> 00:42:39,460
right? With me, I spoke at a long time ago, but haven't seen it.

573
00:42:39,540 --> 00:42:45,040
If we can come out of this meeting with a couple of ones, one, what is our time frame? Do we

574
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:52,720
have time to work on it? If not, then it's me and your story is, if we do, I'm happy to incorporate

575
00:42:52,720 --> 00:42:59,600
those edits and we write the questions and for you probably have the best sense of working

576
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:07,060
budget company to be. Yeah, I mean what I would do is I would look for a good one from last

577
00:43:07,060 --> 00:43:13,880
year and ask them if we can use it and just use that. I mean there's anything if we, so I think

578
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:22,700
we have until October 1st to work on. I can just let people know, I took it

579
00:43:22,700 --> 00:43:30,280
down off the website, as we spoke about from left meeting, and I warned Dory Engels of the

580
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:37,400
Marathon because she's the only one who ever does it early at home, so she kind of

581
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:44,580
thought that was nice, but that was a problem for her. So, and there's like some questions in there,

582
00:43:46,180 --> 00:43:53,620
But our more youth sports oriented, so if we take them out, I could every year ask those,

583
00:43:54,420 --> 00:43:56,840
like, is there a different register?

584
00:43:57,180 --> 00:44:00,780
I mean, I bet some of the things you found that would do book it,

585
00:44:00,980 --> 00:44:04,060
or not important, are there for a little bit of a reason,

586
00:44:04,100 --> 00:44:05,740
but there's another way to do it.

587
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:08,940
There's also, if we don't feel like we have enough time,

588
00:44:08,940 --> 00:44:17,340
We could also, I could just send everybody a budget template to not have to be on the app.

589
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:23,760
But I mean, it would be better, but yeah, I know that you need to speak.

590
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:28,680
Confessionally. Yeah. My that's a series of one grand cycle. I mean, we get some but it's that literally

591
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:34,420
have nothing. Yeah. Right. No, isn't that something to come to have a lot. So just to something

592
00:44:34,420 --> 00:44:39,420
very basic that gives the Board enough information and they can inform us as soon as you

593
00:44:39,420 --> 00:44:39,920
find.

594
00:44:40,980 --> 00:44:41,560
I'll look for it.

595
00:44:42,260 --> 00:44:47,840
It seems like the confusion is, are you asking for a budget for the project, or are you

596
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:51,220
asking for our operational budget for the organization?

597
00:44:52,060 --> 00:44:52,660
That's where.

598
00:44:52,780 --> 00:44:54,160
And I kind of, you know, hold on.

599
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:58,660
We, we want both, but usually they provide one or the other.

600
00:44:58,820 --> 00:44:59,080
Yeah.

601
00:44:59,240 --> 00:44:59,320
Seems.

602
00:44:59,320 --> 00:44:59,560
Please.

603
00:45:00,690 --> 00:45:13,130
Yeah, and yes, but we shouldn't make it clear. And I can take a look at what you guys, the books, two hours a suite that I could spend on it.

604
00:45:13,970 --> 00:45:15,190
Yeah, okay.

605
00:45:16,130 --> 00:45:18,950
All right, we're comfortable with it.

606
00:45:19,350 --> 00:45:29,530
And then we still have to talk about some other aspects of the grant, the implications of writers and

607
00:45:29,530 --> 00:45:38,650
have joining up, would we, you know, we've set up until now we have a $5,000

608
00:45:38,650 --> 00:45:44,950
maximum organization, would we increase that to $10,000, would we put any restrictions

609
00:45:44,950 --> 00:45:51,490
on it like half us to go to the path, half, half, half, half to go to mountain bike trails,

610
00:45:51,870 --> 00:45:52,490
you know.

611
00:45:53,430 --> 00:45:59,510
What are the reasons I think our grant program is the only leverage we have with many

612
00:45:59,510 --> 00:46:07,150
organization in the Valley. And I haven't seen, I checked the website, of both organizations.

613
00:46:07,370 --> 00:46:13,790
I just haven't seen anything that gives me confidence that there's going to be a good balance

614
00:46:13,790 --> 00:46:18,230
within that organization. Maybe there will be. Maybe there's a million things that are working

615
00:46:18,230 --> 00:46:25,750
on that we're just not aware of. But I feel like if we just say, okay, we increase the total,

616
00:46:26,990 --> 00:46:33,470
We, I think our job and when we do the grant discussions is always to spread our money

617
00:46:33,470 --> 00:46:38,810
among as many different age groups, as many different types of users.

618
00:46:39,030 --> 00:46:44,970
I'm not trying to have this beat of micro management thing, but our money is leverage.

619
00:46:45,650 --> 00:46:49,150
And so I think we should think about that while we make this decision.

620
00:46:49,150 --> 00:46:57,270
One thought to consider is, we don't really know how complex the merger case, but I just assume

621
00:46:57,270 --> 00:47:03,090
that it is complicated. There's going to be a transition, whatever things are going to be clunky.

622
00:47:04,070 --> 00:47:10,510
So one way to look at it is we support that with the 10,000 and let them figure it out.

623
00:47:10,790 --> 00:47:15,850
Do the understanding that they'll be upside on the back and down the line because they'll be doing more work.

624
00:47:15,850 --> 00:47:22,070
will be more efficient, but I think it's going to be hard for them to do it, because it's

625
00:47:22,070 --> 00:47:27,810
a lot of moving pieces with governance and relationships, and it's one blessing they have to

626
00:47:27,810 --> 00:47:33,090
worry about. It's something for us to think about, but I don't know the people involved in

627
00:47:33,090 --> 00:47:40,850
those things. I mean, I feel like that as emerged organization, that they will create in a sense

628
00:47:40,850 --> 00:47:43,570
They're all strategic plan and a vision for the future,

629
00:47:45,270 --> 00:47:48,670
and I'd like to defer to the organization

630
00:47:49,990 --> 00:47:52,610
their priorities on a given year.

631
00:47:53,010 --> 00:47:54,430
And that may not be a thing.

632
00:47:54,470 --> 00:47:58,230
Equal distribution between mountain biking and path,

633
00:47:58,270 --> 00:48:00,730
you know, hiking, hiking trails,

634
00:48:01,390 --> 00:48:03,130
but as a single organization,

635
00:48:03,950 --> 00:48:05,190
I'd like to say to them,

636
00:48:05,270 --> 00:48:10,270
what are your priorities and I do think that we,

637
00:48:10,270 --> 00:48:16,810
we're doing a pretty good job of going back and looking at previous years as we move into the

638
00:48:16,810 --> 00:48:21,730
grand cycle. What did they ask for last year? What was some of the radish now? And if we

639
00:48:21,730 --> 00:48:26,930
sit, if we see that, well, last year, you know, you didn't do anything for mountain bike mountain bike.

640
00:48:28,450 --> 00:48:37,450
You know, and it's part of that annual visit with Bruce, what is your plan for the year before we

641
00:48:37,450 --> 00:48:42,650
get to the grant and say we see that he did nothing for math or everything for math and by

642
00:48:42,650 --> 00:48:50,570
a we'd love to see more being done for and I think sometimes they're also there's a question

643
00:48:50,570 --> 00:49:02,670
of their access to grants any given year it may be some extra money grant money close into mountain biking

644
00:49:02,670 --> 00:49:07,050
And so that you, the organization, says, well, okay, now we really

645
00:49:07,050 --> 00:49:12,330
can use another look for a registered grant to be on the path.

646
00:49:13,050 --> 00:49:17,690
So I think that there, I'm, I'm, I'm a supporter of deferring to the

647
00:49:17,690 --> 00:49:20,230
other emerged organization to set their priorities.

648
00:49:23,170 --> 00:49:23,470
Excuse me.

649
00:49:23,930 --> 00:49:27,270
Somebody would like to see

650
00:49:27,270 --> 00:49:32,310
bold organizations get money. I, I think that they, it should be

651
00:49:32,310 --> 00:49:38,550
the same cap 5,000 dollars. They're one organization now. And I don't think it's fair. I don't

652
00:49:38,550 --> 00:49:43,770
think it's a good precedent to say, oh, you're in the middle. They will, they have been merging

653
00:49:43,770 --> 00:49:49,590
for over a year. I think we're all in agreement, but you're saying to them, I don't know. No,

654
00:49:50,330 --> 00:49:57,710
where I was saying is, is having some language or some oversight that they spend 5,000 in

655
00:49:57,710 --> 00:49:59,470
I think it's one organization now.

656
00:49:59,650 --> 00:50:01,130
What they have libraries that they apply for,

657
00:50:01,230 --> 00:50:03,570
our app for everyone is the same.

658
00:50:03,830 --> 00:50:05,070
So there are two questions.

659
00:50:05,470 --> 00:50:08,530
One is as a single organization

660
00:50:09,550 --> 00:50:13,010
or is our expectation that they distribute between the...

661
00:50:13,010 --> 00:50:14,170
No, I don't think we can kind of...

662
00:50:14,170 --> 00:50:16,790
And then the second question is,

663
00:50:16,830 --> 00:50:20,410
does the single organization cap that we use

664
00:50:20,410 --> 00:50:24,570
with everyone now applied to a merge organization?

665
00:50:24,950 --> 00:50:26,910
Or we said, we could...

666
00:50:26,910 --> 00:50:33,410
And I can tell you that some of the entities in the merged organization have an expectation

667
00:50:33,410 --> 00:50:38,950
that the merger will mean a thousand of that will know.

668
00:50:39,010 --> 00:50:41,930
So that's a decision that we do need to make.

669
00:50:42,390 --> 00:50:43,090
But that's not enough.

670
00:50:43,410 --> 00:50:44,870
But why would they get preference?

671
00:50:45,290 --> 00:50:49,610
Why would they why would that be a separate if we were separate if we find that separate?

672
00:50:49,830 --> 00:50:55,450
The answer to the question is, this is what this is just my point about your money is

673
00:50:55,450 --> 00:51:02,550
you're only leverage. And we want to see good hiking trails and we want to see good mountain biking

674
00:51:02,550 --> 00:51:09,030
trails. And we hope that they will do both and spread their money around. And I guess we could

675
00:51:09,030 --> 00:51:15,290
address it through what Al said is, you know, the past year or, you know, when they do a presentation,

676
00:51:15,950 --> 00:51:21,810
but there are some, it's going to be hard for them to decide where money goes. I mean, not,

677
00:51:21,810 --> 00:51:51,790
And I first heard about this merger. I asked that. I'm like, well, wow, what happens when, you know, you have a big need. I'm one of the other. And, and there was no answer. And there's nothing public. No one is talk about it to anybody, nothing. You know, so that's why I just don't have that confidence. And that's why I brought this up. And I do agree to make it easier on them. Great. I, one question that it's just come up is we think we're having visits

678
00:51:51,790 --> 00:51:54,550
that's from these organizations, starting one.

679
00:51:54,810 --> 00:51:55,570
Well, we didn't say this.

680
00:51:55,570 --> 00:51:56,710
We have to talk about that.

681
00:51:56,850 --> 00:52:01,730
We said that as a sort of part of our own annual engagement

682
00:52:01,730 --> 00:52:04,230
with partners like you did when you reached out.

683
00:52:05,650 --> 00:52:06,890
But we're going to start, you know,

684
00:52:07,130 --> 00:52:09,270
if we're going to be talking in November, December

685
00:52:09,270 --> 00:52:12,830
about actual grants, they'll be in and we'll be talking about.

686
00:52:12,830 --> 00:52:14,830
I think we're going to look at our next.

687
00:52:15,170 --> 00:52:17,730
Okay, I'll just, I was just like, part of our strategic

688
00:52:17,730 --> 00:52:25,150
But my end is understanding constantly what the needs are of the different organizations, which requires

689
00:52:25,150 --> 00:52:27,890
your communication outside of the grant cycle.

690
00:52:28,390 --> 00:52:29,970
So I think the question does come down.

691
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:40,480
1, 2, Molly says they're one organization. They get the cap. It's the 5,000 cap. Or do we turn around and go, well, you know, what is it? What is it? What is it?

692
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:43,780
Separate it, five, five, that's sort of, you know, the question.

693
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:48,800
And maybe part of you that, the thing we don't know, you know, is what they're going to apply for, right?

694
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:53,400
I mean, if they apply for $10,000 for the corridor or, I mean,

695
00:52:55,450 --> 00:53:00,170
I don't know, I would love to see them get $10,000 and then be spread equally.

696
00:53:00,170 --> 00:53:02,510
But that doesn't seem like again.

697
00:53:02,730 --> 00:53:04,610
I don't think it seems like a good precedent

698
00:53:05,350 --> 00:53:07,770
just because you're merging you get one money.

699
00:53:10,070 --> 00:53:10,570
I think it's not.

700
00:53:11,770 --> 00:53:12,190
That's not good.

701
00:53:12,610 --> 00:53:14,350
Well, no, no, no, don't.

702
00:53:14,810 --> 00:53:15,650
I tell you, you don't.

703
00:53:16,490 --> 00:53:17,490
That's our task in system.

704
00:53:17,630 --> 00:53:18,390
We're going to step forward.

705
00:53:18,810 --> 00:53:19,890
I mean, you can listen to something.

706
00:53:20,550 --> 00:53:24,730
I think it's helpful for us to bring this into our awareness,

707
00:53:24,870 --> 00:53:26,470
going into grants, isn't?

708
00:53:26,810 --> 00:53:29,610
We're also looking at a $25,000 bill

709
00:53:29,610 --> 00:53:34,130
for the matter of part, we're already talking about asking other part organizations not to apply

710
00:53:34,130 --> 00:53:39,590
which has some precedent. There's a good possibility depending on how grants roll out that

711
00:53:39,590 --> 00:53:44,910
we're not going to have an extra five grand to be wiggling around with. And if that's the case,

712
00:53:46,670 --> 00:53:52,330
we might just have to go with whatever we face. Maybe it's a little grantees and we don't have a lot of

713
00:53:52,330 --> 00:53:57,350
applicants and so therefore we can float them for your conversation about the fact that this is probably

714
00:53:57,350 --> 00:53:59,550
not something to expect each year.

715
00:53:59,870 --> 00:54:05,070
But if we have a typical year where we've got 90,000 dollars in requests,

716
00:54:06,010 --> 00:54:08,550
that's going to be really hard to say, yeah, we're going to be 10 here.

717
00:54:08,730 --> 00:54:11,330
But you guys can't have any money, because we're already doing all this work in the

718
00:54:11,330 --> 00:54:11,610
card.

719
00:54:12,510 --> 00:54:13,770
Spread ourselves out of it.

720
00:54:14,070 --> 00:54:17,790
I just think it's hard to anticipate what we're going to see from grants.

721
00:54:18,990 --> 00:54:20,790
And I don't know where I stand on that.

722
00:54:20,910 --> 00:54:24,470
I mean, the merger is meant for them to sort of,

723
00:54:25,430 --> 00:54:30,870
There's both pros and cons to that, and sometimes that means that you avail certain opportunities because you're

724
00:54:30,870 --> 00:54:38,050
Where's and that you certainly are going to lose opportunities because you're merged and I don't know where we fit in that next, but I think it's

725
00:54:39,330 --> 00:54:43,710
It's hard to say what we're going to be asked for in terms of money this year.

726
00:54:44,350 --> 00:54:46,150
Well, maybe that is just

727
00:54:46,870 --> 00:54:54,010
a purely pragmatic approach that says on any given grant year we are limited

728
00:54:54,470 --> 00:55:00,750
by the grant funds we have available and we will work as hard as we can as we always do

729
00:55:00,750 --> 00:55:08,670
to distribute equitably with an eye to serving as many people as we can and do so.

730
00:55:10,690 --> 00:55:16,630
Which is the truth. I mean, we have to tell them in advance of them writing a grant

731
00:55:16,630 --> 00:55:21,070
whether they should write it for five or ten. That question has been asked us.

732
00:55:21,070 --> 00:55:27,050
Yeah, okay. And so, that's only, yeah, so normally when someone else says that question,

733
00:55:27,490 --> 00:55:30,710
why does the response? And we've had other people have had that, and then when I was

734
00:55:30,710 --> 00:55:35,690
sad, like, I was going to apply for eight, but should I just do four? We've never had

735
00:55:35,690 --> 00:55:42,030
an organization's merged before. No, but we have communicated, how have we communicated other

736
00:55:42,030 --> 00:55:51,050
than through precedent that in general, we don't know, or it's in general, it's in our

737
00:55:51,050 --> 00:55:54,230
We don't have the grant request in front of us.

738
00:55:55,130 --> 00:55:57,130
So we don't know how much money is being asked about.

739
00:55:57,210 --> 00:55:58,350
Is it's one full?

740
00:55:58,830 --> 00:55:59,810
We can't answer that question.

741
00:56:00,010 --> 00:56:00,910
And so we see everything.

742
00:56:01,730 --> 00:56:01,810
Right?

743
00:56:02,230 --> 00:56:02,590
No.

744
00:56:02,970 --> 00:56:04,010
I think that's because.

745
00:56:04,790 --> 00:56:10,050
Well, they are because there's been two organizations doing different types

746
00:56:10,050 --> 00:56:12,390
of work, serving different populations.

747
00:56:14,690 --> 00:56:18,110
The executive structure of the path is assuming.

748
00:56:19,110 --> 00:56:20,610
And I know what that word means.

749
00:56:21,410 --> 00:56:26,650
that it will be 10,000. So if our max is 5,000, we need to tell them because they're going

750
00:56:26,650 --> 00:56:33,610
to be writing a grant. So every year, part of our pay off grant is for Moe. Right? Almost every

751
00:56:33,610 --> 00:56:37,950
year is a couple of thousand, two thousand for Moe and then they put in some other project.

752
00:56:39,590 --> 00:56:45,190
So, you know, it's a big deal to them. They don't, you know, I think that would be really

753
00:56:45,190 --> 00:56:50,030
for us not to actually say because they're going to write the grant differently.

754
00:56:50,990 --> 00:56:56,470
Can I ask you why don't you please specifically just not to be no overly nuanced, the

755
00:56:56,470 --> 00:57:01,470
specific language we've regard to having on the website yet.

756
00:57:01,510 --> 00:57:02,290
I have a red there.

757
00:57:02,310 --> 00:57:03,110
What is it saying?

758
00:57:03,270 --> 00:57:04,090
I already have a good on-prem.

759
00:57:04,490 --> 00:57:08,630
Our annual grant programs for its local organizations are initiatives which provide recreational

760
00:57:08,630 --> 00:57:10,610
opportunities, the matter of our value community.

761
00:57:11,010 --> 00:57:14,950
Generally our grants are in the range of 500 to 5.0.0.

762
00:57:14,950 --> 00:57:27,720
What if we could, can you establish a for project capital $5,000, and then kind of have a carve out or, you know, the

763
00:57:27,720 --> 00:57:32,740
neat situation where there's a merger of organizations, you know, they could.

764
00:57:33,900 --> 00:57:38,640
And then we're also like, I want to, I said this to the last meeting like a

765
00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:43,360
under, and across, and baseball, and murder, which we're supposed to be.

766
00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:48,600
And that's what we would then only give them, and imagine we would then strike them

767
00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:49,520
by that thought.

768
00:57:50,540 --> 00:57:57,760
So, if you like, we don't want to disincentivize merger, if that's what makes sense for the

769
00:57:57,760 --> 00:57:58,100
venture.

770
00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:05,360
Moving forward, after a year into the merger, what does that look like?

771
00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:07,340
There are always going to be granted markets.

772
00:58:07,540 --> 00:58:09,600
They took two interests and made it one.

773
00:58:11,330 --> 00:58:11,770
I don't know.

774
00:58:11,770 --> 00:58:14,050
I feel like we wouldn't make a case.

775
00:58:14,270 --> 00:58:21,690
I think we decide whether or not they would be allowed to apply for up to 10,000.

776
00:58:21,850 --> 00:58:23,510
Because of the merged group.

777
00:58:24,010 --> 00:58:33,250
And say all of our grants, because we also want to be clear about this, that we may have to give people who asked for 5,000,

778
00:58:33,250 --> 00:58:45,130
We may have to, if you apply for 10, and if the entire year may get six or seven, or nothing, or three, you know, it's always, it's always a little bit different.

779
00:58:46,070 --> 00:58:51,790
So just because we allow them apply for up to 10,000 doesn't mean they're going to get 10,000.

780
00:58:52,010 --> 00:58:58,050
Because that is how we, you know, negotiate the, the give, but you see,

781
00:58:58,290 --> 00:59:03,010
Well right, but isn't, I mean that isn't that kind of what I know I was feeling for saying the same thing.

782
00:59:03,010 --> 00:59:06,560
I mean, that's the thing with, like, the snowmobile organization, that's, of that,

783
00:59:07,730 --> 00:59:11,050
through the first year. Thank you. We'll always apply for quite a bit of money,

784
00:59:11,550 --> 00:59:15,340
which is beyond the cap that we suggest on our website. I mean, we'll do that.

785
00:59:16,670 --> 00:59:20,130
And so they can do it. I think that maybe,

786
00:59:23,330 --> 00:59:30,450
do we want to do something that is restrictive in terms of policy,

787
00:59:30,450 --> 00:59:38,450
will regard to. And that's not the language, it says in federal. And so we may stick to the

788
00:59:38,450 --> 00:59:47,610
language, and maybe when the notices go out for the referendum, this is more a little

789
00:59:47,610 --> 00:59:56,030
bit of an upward place, because the information for the grant program will go out in advance

790
00:59:56,030 --> 00:59:59,890
of our talk with their team, and we have it in terms of us done.

791
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:24,480
Budget, said to ourselves, well, we're going to reduce the available grant funds by X. And we know that we're only going to have, instead of 60, whatever, 69, 7, 8, 1, we can tell all of our applicants that we only are going to have 58, whatever that is.

792
01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:32,460
We're only gonna have to pay and we point you to the language in the description that in general,

793
01:00:32,540 --> 01:00:44,780
answer will order between 5,000 and that is going that will continue to direct you to those guidelines being aware that

794
01:00:44,780 --> 01:00:49,100
our available grant funds are, let's this year.

795
01:00:52,800 --> 01:00:54,960
You've got to call him and tell him.

796
01:00:55,580 --> 01:01:05,780
I'm afraid I'm going to be making a assumption that either organization is giving up the opportunity for $5,000 a year.

797
01:01:06,120 --> 01:01:08,180
Maybe they need to apply to separate organizations.

798
01:01:08,720 --> 01:01:12,700
I mean, they're going to be like October 1st, there you are, officially.

799
01:01:13,860 --> 01:01:21,300
I mean, I am also looking over your shoulder at the agenda and we're also getting a request for emergency funding for playbook.

800
01:01:21,300 --> 01:01:25,600
And so, just hearing,

801
01:01:28,420 --> 01:01:30,320
I mean, we haven't seen the grants, right?

802
01:01:30,320 --> 01:01:33,880
So what happens if the mowing a couple of fields goes up what happens?

803
01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:37,920
There's a thousand things we can't anticipate.

804
01:01:38,840 --> 01:01:41,020
We can say you can certainly apply for that.

805
01:01:41,440 --> 01:01:46,380
But until we see all of the, you know, the last time I mean,

806
01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:50,220
I think you could maybe talk precedent and say with the last time

807
01:01:50,220 --> 01:01:55,660
organization received a grant over $5,000 was this and we know that it's complicated and that

808
01:01:55,660 --> 01:02:00,820
you're expecting that we are going to have more money but we don't know how much money we're

809
01:02:00,820 --> 01:02:04,700
going to be asked for and we don't know what those expenses are going to be and we also have

810
01:02:04,700 --> 01:02:07,280
other areas of recreation of the sense too.

811
01:02:10,650 --> 01:02:14,170
Anybody who hasn't spoken one or treasure or

812
01:02:16,550 --> 01:02:25,100
in our group, does it say that physicians are moving one per organization or is that open?

813
01:02:25,820 --> 01:02:31,740
I don't think it's written there, but if it's assumed, I mean, but that's an option.

814
01:02:31,960 --> 01:02:38,040
If it's not refinement one per or they can submit more than one, and I'm planning availability.

815
01:02:38,040 --> 01:02:40,160
So that's

816
01:02:44,420 --> 01:02:46,520
one of these.

817
01:02:46,660 --> 01:02:47,180
Hi Doug.

818
01:02:48,700 --> 01:02:52,040
So it's a conundrum for sure.

819
01:02:52,880 --> 01:03:03,600
I will say that I just assumed that we would allow them to apply for up to 10.

820
01:03:04,860 --> 01:03:12,700
Knowing that they, even though they're one organization, they have and they're working

821
01:03:12,700 --> 01:03:15,240
to the umbrella of trails in general,

822
01:03:17,880 --> 01:03:23,140
their focus has been different and I mean, there must

823
01:03:23,140 --> 01:03:28,700
be advantages to why they merge. I don't know if there's cost savings for them, but I'm

824
01:03:28,700 --> 01:03:37,040
sure they are going all under one administrator or do they still have two separate sets of

825
01:03:37,040 --> 01:03:45,220
administration. So I think in the beginning, at least, until they get themselves really established,

826
01:03:46,180 --> 01:03:51,120
we can treat them as two, and then it sounds like kicking the can down the road a little bit.

827
01:03:53,120 --> 01:03:58,960
But it didn't occur to me. I think Kevin, I think, said it, Kevin or Michael, would talk

828
01:03:58,960 --> 01:04:06,040
about, you know, if the youth organizations all joined as under one umbrella would we only give

829
01:04:06,040 --> 01:04:13,960
5,000 to that. And if the answer is yes or no, then whatever the answer is to that question,

830
01:04:14,600 --> 01:04:21,760
we can apply to this situation. Let me ask the question then, if since we haven't seen the grant

831
01:04:21,760 --> 01:04:22,780
This is so hypothetical.

832
01:04:23,480 --> 01:04:26,700
What happens, if we say, yes, $10,000,

833
01:04:27,320 --> 01:04:29,040
newly merged, so going through growing pains

834
01:04:29,040 --> 01:04:31,700
or making their not, but, and then the application

835
01:04:31,700 --> 01:04:34,360
has nothing to do with trails of my life.

836
01:04:36,080 --> 01:04:38,240
trails of my life are nothing to do with my life.

837
01:04:39,000 --> 01:04:43,440
Like, so we're saying that we're interested in supporting

838
01:04:43,440 --> 01:04:46,840
the two organizations that used to exist as one.

839
01:04:47,300 --> 01:04:51,180
What if the $10,000 application has nothing to do with my life?

840
01:04:51,180 --> 01:04:54,020
And it's often the path from the corner to the corner.

841
01:04:54,680 --> 01:05:00,740
Yeah, I think we need to have a conversation and say, how do you ask them what they are thinking?

842
01:05:01,360 --> 01:05:04,920
Were they going to give two separate applications?

843
01:05:05,160 --> 01:05:06,720
Were they going to give one application?

844
01:05:09,480 --> 01:05:15,880
And you know, I think I don't think we give 10,000 if it's just for path stuff.

845
01:05:20,960 --> 01:05:22,220
So that's good.

846
01:05:22,220 --> 01:05:26,820
at your work. So you should be going to apply for up to $5,000 per

847
01:05:26,820 --> 01:05:32,340
speed project, right? I like that. So that way, you know, it's not all going to

848
01:05:32,340 --> 01:05:37,760
one. Because I, yeah, because I think our job from the four towns that

849
01:05:37,760 --> 01:05:41,960
give us money is to make sure a lot of different things are supported.

850
01:05:44,570 --> 01:05:44,570
You

851
01:05:44,570 --> 01:05:49,730
know, I mean, and they internally, this new organization could do that by, you know,

852
01:05:49,730 --> 01:05:55,650
there's some graph that they can only, it's accessibility and they can only fly in here

853
01:05:55,650 --> 01:06:00,410
for this thing they need, but they can apply for a couple of different things with off.

854
01:06:00,530 --> 01:06:07,630
I mean, you could compensate it if you're the grant person in there, is there any of them

855
01:06:07,630 --> 01:06:15,270
saying that a lot of times, you know, you have, you have a 510 means and you know that only

856
01:06:15,270 --> 01:06:20,790
this one, you could, you could get funded by this grant, but three of these things could get

857
01:06:20,790 --> 01:06:25,610
funded by that grant. You know, we said there was always a, you know, your juggle on while

858
01:06:25,610 --> 01:06:32,350
assisting which funder will find which of your means the most attractive.

859
01:06:35,050 --> 01:06:36,870
We apply for a number

860
01:06:36,870 --> 01:06:43,650
of grants like specifically like Lake Champlain visiting program and they allow a cap of two or three

861
01:06:43,650 --> 01:06:48,290
we're five projects like proposals for grant.

862
01:06:48,950 --> 01:06:51,250
But we only ever get one of those.

863
01:06:53,070 --> 01:06:56,270
So, you know, maybe we have gotten multiple,

864
01:06:56,550 --> 01:06:59,490
but like a lot of times we'll fly with like two or three different ideas

865
01:06:59,490 --> 01:07:01,590
and the issues in the like side of our community.

866
01:07:02,290 --> 01:07:06,950
So, maybe there's like, there's a little bit, you know,

867
01:07:07,050 --> 01:07:10,150
a mixed idea of like, we'll allow them to apply

868
01:07:10,150 --> 01:07:12,350
and then a cap is 5,000 per project.

869
01:07:12,970 --> 01:07:18,470
I mean, certainly other grants, other organizations could take advantage of that and now we

870
01:07:18,470 --> 01:07:23,210
start with more grants, plus the way through potentially. But, at least that way we can

871
01:07:23,210 --> 01:07:27,750
honor and recognize the projects and then we just not to do a great job of tracking, seeing

872
01:07:27,750 --> 01:07:29,870
what types of things we're supporting and what they're not.

873
01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:45,400
And I'm actually in terms of precedent, looking at grants often within whether it is soccer or literally in there, they have multiple little projects and they allocate money to those multiple.

874
01:07:46,040 --> 01:07:54,060
This is how much we would like to put to this and to this. So I don't think we would be departed that much from what we practice in the past.

875
01:07:56,880 --> 01:08:06,060
But are you intending, you mean the two projects have to one has to be for the pay off and one has to be for mountain biking?

876
01:08:06,480 --> 01:08:07,920
Is that what you mean when you say?

877
01:08:08,000 --> 01:08:20,740
Well, I think if we say that there's a tendering cap, then you risk us getting a request for a tendering spent in one area that doesn't represent the diversified audience as we're trying to.

878
01:08:20,740 --> 01:08:28,120
And that's could be true of any product like let's say the three sports merge and then we get a $10,000 or a

879
01:08:28,120 --> 01:08:36,560
request only for couples feel and there's nothing for matter of a part just for example like that doesn't necessarily represent

880
01:08:36,560 --> 01:08:49,880
the best interest of recreation about. So by putting a cap on individual applications they give us a couple of options and we then maybe we have enough funding to provide funding for both and

881
01:08:49,880 --> 01:08:53,880
maybe we can only do one, but it, and I think we can let them be aware of that, like,

882
01:08:54,100 --> 01:08:59,500
we can apply for capital $5,000 per project, and per project.

883
01:09:00,720 --> 01:09:02,260
But, like, per project.

884
01:09:02,260 --> 01:09:05,020
They can still do two mountain biking projects.

885
01:09:05,680 --> 01:09:05,820
Right.

886
01:09:06,420 --> 01:09:10,660
And then we have a decision, and we can say, you know, we would have, you know,

887
01:09:10,660 --> 01:09:11,300
like, we would have a good fun.

888
01:09:11,620 --> 01:09:11,860
Yeah.

889
01:09:12,680 --> 01:09:16,900
And so that's part of the front learning is like, okay, we're going to have this conversation

890
01:09:16,900 --> 01:09:17,940
about what we're going to have.

891
01:09:18,600 --> 01:09:20,400
you're coming from two organizations.

892
01:09:21,100 --> 01:09:23,920
You're assuming that $10,000 is coming your way.

893
01:09:24,580 --> 01:09:28,080
If you're going to apply, one application can have a match

894
01:09:28,080 --> 01:09:30,040
to $5,000 be focused on non-life,

895
01:09:30,200 --> 01:09:33,100
and one can be focused on the path, or $5,000,

896
01:09:33,420 --> 01:09:34,920
and we'll see how much money we have.

897
01:09:36,100 --> 01:09:38,300
And then that's going to be applicable to anyone else.

898
01:09:38,440 --> 01:09:41,860
What was it that you moved set of rules?

899
01:09:42,740 --> 01:09:46,040
It's setting a new set of rules for our grant application.

900
01:09:46,840 --> 01:09:55,180
Right, so if all you sports merged, then we could say where you can apply multiple times.

901
01:09:55,320 --> 01:09:57,480
There's only a bullet of merge organizations.

902
01:09:58,540 --> 01:09:58,580
Yes.

903
01:09:58,660 --> 01:10:01,080
I think you'd be applicable to anybody.

904
01:10:02,860 --> 01:10:04,420
I'm now really confused.

905
01:10:04,640 --> 01:10:04,820
I'm sorry.

906
01:10:05,120 --> 01:10:09,060
I mean, I don't think we want to say this group can apply for that.

907
01:10:09,360 --> 01:10:09,560
Right.

908
01:10:09,820 --> 01:10:10,640
That's what I mean.

909
01:10:10,760 --> 01:10:11,520
We can't do that.

910
01:10:11,520 --> 01:10:20,980
But we could say, you know, emerged organization in apply for multiple projects for the

911
01:10:20,980 --> 01:10:29,840
capital $5,000, but they have to demonstrate how each application ties back to the, like,

912
01:10:29,840 --> 01:10:30,920
pre-merger.

913
01:10:31,280 --> 01:10:33,080
But if I don't know, are we doing that so far?

914
01:10:33,080 --> 01:10:36,600
I don't know, I don't care if that's okay, and I don't have to be everyone.

915
01:10:36,820 --> 01:10:46,400
I have to get everyone to advocate that organizations may apply for more than one grant request.

916
01:10:46,440 --> 01:10:48,660
And you have to go through the whole process.

917
01:10:49,120 --> 01:10:54,300
And there's no guarantee that we have enough money to afford that.

918
01:10:54,460 --> 01:10:57,820
Because there's other organizations that might have multiple programs.

919
01:10:57,820 --> 01:11:03,340
substitutes the German merge for collaboration, right, like so for instance, is it unrealistic?

920
01:11:03,580 --> 01:11:08,080
Like, friends, Matt River has, like, put in proposals with lots of different groups on a variety

921
01:11:08,080 --> 01:11:12,900
of groups. So, like, for instance, like, if we just think of this strictly as, like, merge

922
01:11:12,900 --> 01:11:17,880
organizations, that's, like, a bottleneck of, like, currently we have two organizations that are

923
01:11:17,880 --> 01:11:23,920
becoming one, but it doesn't apply across the board. So, if we, except, like, for instance,

924
01:11:23,920 --> 01:11:28,760
Let's say that, let's say that the new trails

925
01:11:28,760 --> 01:11:31,180
Alliance wanted us to do a collaborative project

926
01:11:31,180 --> 01:11:34,000
with one group and not a $5,000 project.

927
01:11:34,080 --> 01:11:35,000
I'm going to say that that was like,

928
01:11:35,100 --> 01:11:38,440
with MRVBC, and then they wanted to do something

929
01:11:38,440 --> 01:11:39,760
with the Friends and Ad River,

930
01:11:39,880 --> 01:11:41,820
and that was a $7,000 project.

931
01:11:43,460 --> 01:11:47,600
I see it more as, first of all, I don't think we should say,

932
01:11:47,680 --> 01:11:50,260
apply for 10 grand anybody, because I think that's

933
01:11:50,260 --> 01:11:50,860
a weird precedent.

934
01:11:51,100 --> 01:11:52,340
And I don't think we can have this.

935
01:11:52,340 --> 01:11:54,020
We are a virtual, virtual, virtual.

936
01:11:55,140 --> 01:11:58,420
I think we can encourage people to apply

937
01:11:58,420 --> 01:12:01,680
5,000 per project, per proposal.

938
01:12:02,280 --> 01:12:04,660
And if they have multiple proposals, we'll consider them

939
01:12:04,660 --> 01:12:07,160
and based on grant funding, we'll try to find what we can't.

940
01:12:07,320 --> 01:12:13,380
I think some organizations are going to put

941
01:12:13,380 --> 01:12:15,080
three or four in.

942
01:12:15,120 --> 01:12:18,120
Well, then that's the present that's what we're setting up by allowing

943
01:12:18,120 --> 01:12:19,200
this one group.

944
01:12:19,200 --> 01:12:23,460
But that's what I mean, it's too much work for them

945
01:12:23,460 --> 01:12:25,200
because they're not going to get them off-funded.

946
01:12:25,540 --> 01:12:27,280
Somebody's going to be hopeful and think,

947
01:12:27,580 --> 01:12:30,920
I'm going to reply for free and maybe I'll get to the in-brand.

948
01:12:31,880 --> 01:12:33,460
And then we're going to have more decisions.

949
01:12:33,680 --> 01:12:34,000
Do you?

950
01:12:34,200 --> 01:12:38,120
I mean, I feel like we have a really good process right now.

951
01:12:39,280 --> 01:12:42,480
We have a lot to do with, but we don't want each organization

952
01:12:42,480 --> 01:12:48,480
considering we want it the way some of the people do.

953
01:12:48,480 --> 01:12:51,800
they have different projects within an application.

954
01:12:52,240 --> 01:12:52,540
And application.

955
01:12:52,920 --> 01:12:56,020
And they say, this piece of equipment costs $10,000

956
01:12:56,020 --> 01:12:58,820
or we're asking you for free for it.

957
01:12:58,820 --> 01:13:01,300
And the $1,000 or something else, and about something else.

958
01:13:02,700 --> 01:13:08,460
So the big, it just boils down to, as emerged organization,

959
01:13:09,380 --> 01:13:13,480
when we consider giving them up to $5,000 or up to $10,000.

960
01:13:13,480 --> 01:13:15,020
I don't know if it does boil down to that.

961
01:13:15,060 --> 01:13:17,860
I think what we do with this is going to be applicable

962
01:13:17,860 --> 01:13:21,140
in the future. We can't treat them differently. It's a green application.

963
01:13:21,620 --> 01:13:25,340
Okay, and then they can only fly for 5,000. That's in general.

964
01:13:25,340 --> 01:13:33,700
In general, and we've never, we can, we can find everyone, please eliminate within your application,

965
01:13:34,460 --> 01:13:38,960
the different elements of, you know, what do you want it more?

966
01:13:39,120 --> 01:13:43,440
Just like you're saying that organizations do. They, they map out different projects with the money

967
01:13:43,440 --> 01:13:47,840
that they're asking for. This marginalization can do the same thing. They can ask

968
01:13:47,840 --> 01:13:48,700
for 10,000 dollars.

969
01:13:48,780 --> 01:13:50,180
Are there organizations do that?

970
01:13:50,540 --> 01:13:52,500
But I don't think we don't make it this way.

971
01:13:52,940 --> 01:13:55,180
Recently, no one has asked for it.

972
01:13:55,400 --> 01:13:56,460
We, they have it.

973
01:13:56,780 --> 01:13:58,300
We had two last year.

974
01:13:59,460 --> 01:14:02,200
The war no elementary school in the Mad River Ridge Runners.

975
01:14:02,520 --> 01:14:04,380
Both had grant and asked, okay,

976
01:14:04,720 --> 01:14:06,120
I request over five grand, I'm pretty sure.

977
01:14:07,280 --> 01:14:07,660
And what are you doing?

978
01:14:08,740 --> 01:14:10,100
Friends are the more town library.

979
01:14:10,980 --> 01:14:11,440
Oh, okay.

980
01:14:11,820 --> 01:14:13,140
That was, that was bad.

981
01:14:13,140 --> 01:14:17,380
That was my fault because they didn't know what they were doing.

982
01:14:17,380 --> 01:14:20,340
and we knew we needed fun more time.

983
01:14:20,760 --> 01:14:23,100
That don't all bad against them because I advised them like,

984
01:14:23,140 --> 01:14:25,960
oh my god, you could have quite some more and see what happens.

985
01:14:26,040 --> 01:14:30,380
I think we just allow the deliberations to unfold

986
01:14:30,380 --> 01:14:34,540
as they have in the past and simply remind applicants

987
01:14:34,540 --> 01:14:42,540
that they need to delineate the elements that they are requesting funds for,

988
01:14:42,820 --> 01:14:44,420
delineate them as they have in the past.

989
01:14:44,820 --> 01:14:46,680
And a reminder in terms of our language,

990
01:14:46,680 --> 01:14:55,480
that in general, we know we're between 500 and 5,000 and that's what we say is the trails

991
01:14:55,480 --> 01:14:58,950
alliance in general.

992
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:03,120
Without having to come down on a policy,

993
01:15:05,740 --> 01:15:08,760
how are we going to articulate a policy? Is it going to be a policy about

994
01:15:08,760 --> 01:15:16,120
mergers only? Is that the, is that going to be where we're going to go with this? Or is it a policy

995
01:15:16,120 --> 01:15:23,080
regarding organizations, applications, be clear in the elements that you're

996
01:15:23,080 --> 01:15:26,440
delegating within within your application?

997
01:15:29,580 --> 01:15:32,040
I just don't know how I'm going to explain this.

998
01:15:32,040 --> 01:15:38,640
So I'm going to need, I'll write up a sentence or two, and run it by you, and because I'm

999
01:15:38,640 --> 01:15:39,880
not really understanding.

1000
01:15:40,580 --> 01:15:48,540
You're saying, you guys just need, no, I think to be fair and transparent, there's

1001
01:15:48,540 --> 01:15:55,420
a bit of a fire, it's already been telegraphed about the new organization, believing that

1002
01:15:57,760 --> 01:16:07,620
because they should be able to apply for up to 10,000 and there's been a little bit of back and forth about requests for other money.

1003
01:16:07,760 --> 01:16:12,240
Well, if you're going to limit us there, then we're not going to do this here.

1004
01:16:15,380 --> 01:16:19,500
So, I think that is something we have to deal with,

1005
01:16:19,500 --> 01:16:26,360
with Laura is wrestling with the reality that there is an assumption there that as a

1006
01:16:26,360 --> 01:16:36,400
merged order organization, that there it changes the dynamics for law for $10,000 or,

1007
01:16:38,770 --> 01:16:39,410
of course,

1008
01:16:39,730 --> 01:16:40,110
wearing that.

1009
01:16:40,850 --> 01:16:46,890
And again, it is also, it is a precedent, we've never had, we only have two trials organizations

1010
01:16:46,890 --> 01:16:47,950
in the valley.

1011
01:16:47,950 --> 01:16:53,290
Both of their sports activities are very important that a lot of people.

1012
01:16:54,290 --> 01:16:58,950
So, and we've never had a group merge.

1013
01:16:59,210 --> 01:17:03,270
The ridge runners in the MRVBC would say that they are also,

1014
01:17:03,890 --> 01:17:06,590
I mean, MRVBC is opening up Calvary and Trail.

1015
01:17:07,510 --> 01:17:10,830
They consider themselves in their trails or advertised at part of Calvary.

1016
01:17:11,250 --> 01:17:14,670
But I think it's dangerous to say that we only have these two organizations.

1017
01:17:15,010 --> 01:17:16,510
I do think that they have high usage.

1018
01:17:16,510 --> 01:17:27,170
My concern is the precedent and it is like that it feels preferentials may.

1019
01:17:27,310 --> 01:17:36,330
It feels like we're going to do this because these groups merged, but we can't articulate

1020
01:17:36,330 --> 01:17:38,770
the flip side of it.

1021
01:17:38,770 --> 01:17:42,530
And I get the concept of allowing each group

1022
01:17:42,530 --> 01:17:47,150
to apply for multiple projects is overwhelming and daunting,

1023
01:17:48,310 --> 01:17:50,310
because if everybody applies for three,

1024
01:17:50,590 --> 01:17:52,930
like that's a lot more for us to read and consider,

1025
01:17:53,630 --> 01:17:55,550
but what are our options?

1026
01:17:55,550 --> 01:17:57,710
Our options are either that we will firm a five-key,

1027
01:17:57,790 --> 01:17:59,390
and we have a hard conversation.

1028
01:18:00,970 --> 01:18:05,290
Or we say that we're going to accept this many applications

1029
01:18:05,290 --> 01:18:06,630
that we're going to open it up to everybody,

1030
01:18:06,630 --> 01:18:09,810
because I don't think we can just go to one organization, I'll say.

1031
01:18:10,190 --> 01:18:11,110
And that's to be the same.

1032
01:18:11,190 --> 01:18:12,670
I did, I did, I did five words.

1033
01:18:12,830 --> 01:18:17,230
I am fine with making five thousand recap

1034
01:18:17,230 --> 01:18:19,630
for the new trails organization.

1035
01:18:20,270 --> 01:18:21,190
I'm fine with that.

1036
01:18:21,310 --> 01:18:23,310
I don't think we have to just tell them it's a cap.

1037
01:18:23,350 --> 01:18:24,230
I'm looking right now.

1038
01:18:24,370 --> 01:18:26,930
There was one, two, three, five organizations

1039
01:18:26,930 --> 01:18:29,150
who five from one and five thousand onslaughts last year.

1040
01:18:29,690 --> 01:18:31,870
So people do it, they can do it.

1041
01:18:31,870 --> 01:18:33,030
But not much more.

1042
01:18:33,030 --> 01:18:35,450
Most of those were like, I mean,

1043
01:18:35,450 --> 01:18:41,150
thousand seven thousand five hundred ninety eight six thousand. Pretty close. And we just said okay.

1044
01:18:42,050 --> 01:18:49,250
So I'm just okay. So my things I want to make more work for people. These are volunteers or small

1045
01:18:49,250 --> 01:18:57,750
organizations or small staff. So I and everything is built on expectation, right? So I just want to be

1046
01:18:57,750 --> 01:19:04,250
clear. And if I was in this new trail organization, I would want to know, should I apply for

1047
01:19:04,250 --> 01:19:12,450
five or ten? And that's I'm just asking for that kind of guidance. I think we say five,

1048
01:19:12,550 --> 01:19:19,670
unless we want to change the rules for everybody. And we want to describe a new set of rules that

1049
01:19:19,670 --> 01:19:20,190
apply to.

1050
01:19:25,370 --> 01:19:30,590
I mean, that's absurd to me. And then we can't change them differently. So

1051
01:19:30,590 --> 01:19:32,790
Teams, those for everyone, or we think,

1052
01:19:32,970 --> 01:19:36,230
follow the same rules that I mean, I'm totally fine with that,

1053
01:19:36,230 --> 01:19:39,710
but I just didn't think that's what the board wanted to do.

1054
01:19:39,830 --> 01:19:43,450
I thought from comments before everybody wanted to try

1055
01:19:43,450 --> 01:19:46,750
and give them 10 to up to, allow them to plot that

1056
01:19:46,750 --> 01:19:48,210
apply for up to 10 to have it.

1057
01:19:48,290 --> 01:19:51,090
Make them apply, they're allowed to,

1058
01:19:51,370 --> 01:19:54,030
but we're going to adhere to what they have

1059
01:19:55,590 --> 01:19:59,470
with it says, in general, five to five thousand.

1060
01:20:01,730 --> 01:20:10,410
I think going back to the day is where we used to get applications for $27,000 in $2,000.

1061
01:20:12,110 --> 01:20:18,130
That was a reality. We've done a lot to reign in. People's expectations around this.

1062
01:20:18,430 --> 01:20:27,310
I think that maybe some of the reactions that I'm feeling in myself is just that maybe it looks great on paper.

1063
01:20:27,310 --> 01:20:36,050
So like pitch to the town is going to be more money that we have $150,000 in requests, but it doesn't actually make it more realistic for anybody else.

1064
01:20:36,630 --> 01:20:38,650
So I think, I mean,

1065
01:20:40,740 --> 01:20:49,960
I think it's, I think the easier decision and like the safer choice for where we're at or in a safe line is that we say it with the language of in general.

1066
01:20:50,180 --> 01:20:57,000
This is what we support it. I think the next best decision for my perspective would be to say that anybody can apply for as much money as they want,

1067
01:20:58,380 --> 01:21:12,880
I think that's not, I mean, that may or may not be a can, but if we want to encourage the path and the riders as their new merge alliance to explore pursuing more money, I think we have to make that available to other groups.

1068
01:21:13,360 --> 01:21:26,980
And I get that they're merged, but I don't know that that's, when's the next time we're able to see a merger like this and what is that going to look like and what we have like, I think it's an exception in a specific situation.

1069
01:21:26,980 --> 01:21:31,380
And I think that's really, I think it's hard to make those exceptions.

1070
01:21:31,900 --> 01:21:38,180
So saying that not within a single application, but you can make submit multiple applications.

1071
01:21:38,720 --> 01:21:40,620
I think that's my second best.

1072
01:21:40,820 --> 01:21:44,120
I think my first best is just that we say it's in general.

1073
01:21:44,280 --> 01:21:49,000
We fund five thousand as a cap and people apply for more.

1074
01:21:49,020 --> 01:21:50,240
They don't often get it.

1075
01:21:50,300 --> 01:21:54,120
And you're welcome to apply for it, but that doesn't, and it's at least the itemized.

1076
01:21:54,120 --> 01:21:58,880
And within that, let's say, you know, we do this, like we've been a little nitpicky with like

1077
01:21:58,880 --> 01:21:59,340
we're crossing.

1078
01:21:59,380 --> 01:22:04,240
We're not going to pay for stickers, but we will pay for mandatory equipment, and we can't

1079
01:22:04,240 --> 01:22:05,980
pay for this thing, but we'll pay for that thing.

1080
01:22:06,120 --> 01:22:11,260
And so if we did an application from the trail's lines that is itemizing gives us things, we

1081
01:22:11,260 --> 01:22:17,280
can say, yeah, we'll pay for a bridge on that trail, and we'll pay for the mowing on this section

1082
01:22:17,280 --> 01:22:22,680
of path, and we can look at what they're requesting line for, and make a decision based

1083
01:22:22,680 --> 01:22:28,620
on the things that sort of fit them, but the parameters of what we think we're trying to do with,

1084
01:22:28,700 --> 01:22:29,780
making sure that we have diverse.

1085
01:22:32,720 --> 01:22:45,780
And we have been able to support the trail's clover to the law, and other ways, like the support of attitude, gratitude, and I mean, you know what I'm going to do with this phrase, like you mentioned.

1086
01:22:46,120 --> 01:22:52,840
There have been other requests and there are other requests and who knows how will support them in other ways.

1087
01:22:52,840 --> 01:22:56,380
So, I don't know, I don't know where I'm going with that,

1088
01:22:56,700 --> 01:22:58,760
but there's other things floating up there too.

1089
01:22:58,920 --> 01:23:03,020
And there's also, like, I have offered to people,

1090
01:23:04,120 --> 01:23:06,340
and actually, Misha did this the first year

1091
01:23:06,340 --> 01:23:09,320
who was playing for a grant, who was asking me,

1092
01:23:09,660 --> 01:23:13,160
like, well, we fun, he wanted us to fun individual scholarships,

1093
01:23:13,740 --> 01:23:16,900
and I said, we, you know, no, that's how what we do.

1094
01:23:16,980 --> 01:23:18,380
We like to spread our money out.

1095
01:23:19,040 --> 01:23:22,820
So, yes, knowing or something that affects a lot of people,

1096
01:23:22,820 --> 01:23:26,560
or a program that affects a lot of kids we'd love to,

1097
01:23:26,720 --> 01:23:30,340
but we're not gonna give a $500,000 scholarship

1098
01:23:30,340 --> 01:23:35,380
to five or 10 kids that's not usually how we work it.

1099
01:23:38,320 --> 01:23:40,440
So we could offer advice,

1100
01:23:40,980 --> 01:23:42,360
like it's almost like a pre-application,

1101
01:23:42,500 --> 01:23:45,220
like a lot of grants have a pre-application.

1102
01:23:45,380 --> 01:23:47,600
It's short, it's sweet, we don't wanna go to this,

1103
01:23:48,340 --> 01:23:52,800
but they can ask or advice if they're,

1104
01:23:52,820 --> 01:23:56,100
on the fence, should I apply for this or this, you know?

1105
01:23:57,220 --> 01:24:00,200
So I just wanted to make sure that I have 30.

1106
01:24:01,540 --> 01:24:04,820
Now, we're going to where we are with this.

1107
01:24:05,700 --> 01:24:11,420
Are we saying we're going to adhere to our policy in general?

1108
01:24:11,420 --> 01:24:16,740
We do not award more than five hundred to five thousand for organization.

1109
01:24:18,980 --> 01:24:23,980
And your application must itemize the different projects.

1110
01:24:25,240 --> 01:24:30,400
Are we also saying, in fact, which would be what we've done all along, are we boss?

1111
01:24:30,560 --> 01:24:31,970
And you're more than welcome to Python more.

1112
01:24:32,680 --> 01:24:34,300
He doesn't mean you're going to get it.

1113
01:24:34,740 --> 01:24:40,940
Are we also saying we invite multiple applications on the single one thing?

1114
01:24:40,940 --> 01:24:53,940
So I don't think I don't care, I don't care, I don't care, I don't want to, I think that makes too much work for us, and it makes too much work for them, because people will think, oh, maybe, and then I really don't want.

1115
01:24:54,200 --> 01:25:01,640
So we are essentially adhering to our practice that we have done in the past, apply.

1116
01:25:02,220 --> 01:25:06,520
In general, we know we're between 500 to 5000, so of course you're one of the most

1117
01:25:06,520 --> 01:25:12,480
in case you're from Warner guarantees, and in your application be sure to

1118
01:25:13,280 --> 01:25:17,880
delineate different elements of different projects within your application.

1119
01:25:21,730 --> 01:25:25,970
And I would say that I think the people who have applied for a little bit more than 5000

1120
01:25:25,970 --> 01:25:33,870
do that to show us that this is a big project we'll figure out how to fund this other bit

1121
01:25:34,810 --> 01:25:39,030
But I'm pretty sure, you know, it's, they're just showing on them.

1122
01:25:39,310 --> 01:25:41,110
Is that what

1123
01:25:45,810 --> 01:25:47,010
you have? I think I understand.

1124
01:25:48,110 --> 01:25:54,630
Yeah, I would, it would be great to get to a point where we're focused more on like outcomes, right?

1125
01:25:54,730 --> 01:25:56,750
Some of this track, a library case.

1126
01:25:58,490 --> 01:26:04,410
You know, mountain biking trails is one piece, but main valley general purpose.

1127
01:26:05,010 --> 01:26:10,610
That's for you, and, et cetera, activities, and other, like, that makes sense, right?

1128
01:26:10,710 --> 01:26:14,070
We funded both the years past, and we should be able to do that.

1129
01:26:14,470 --> 01:26:19,390
But I don't, yeah, we're not shifting to a project kind of.

1130
01:26:19,390 --> 01:26:20,090
I'm a patient.

1131
01:26:20,430 --> 01:26:21,290
Separate applications.

1132
01:26:21,810 --> 01:26:27,930
And the reason, like, I added that question about how many people do so.

1133
01:26:28,090 --> 01:26:31,850
I mean, because to me, I'm not a board member.

1134
01:26:31,850 --> 01:26:39,670
I'm a devotee on this, but that is huge because some groups have, we're giving some groups

1135
01:26:39,670 --> 01:26:49,250
45,000 dollars. They serve 100 people, and others serve a thousand people. And to me that, you're

1136
01:26:49,250 --> 01:26:56,190
serving bigger numbers is what I think is important. Not to the exclusion of funding smaller groups,

1137
01:26:56,190 --> 01:27:11,670
But maybe finding them in a smaller way is something that, you know, I mean, again, I think that our mission is to serve the most,

1138
01:27:13,180 --> 01:27:21,160
as many demographics as we can, and I wanted to distinguish between God and the greatest number of people,

1139
01:27:21,160 --> 01:27:30,780
But as many different demographics as we can, and do so wisely within our limits, the realities of our budget.

1140
01:27:32,880 --> 01:27:40,280
And we can turn, you know, we've done grants to very small programs seniors, wait, let's think.

1141
01:27:40,680 --> 01:27:41,840
Sir, but thank people.

1142
01:27:42,480 --> 01:27:45,220
Once it gets to demographic, we don't reach her yet.

1143
01:27:46,320 --> 01:27:46,640
Sure.

1144
01:27:47,440 --> 01:27:51,660
So, are we okay to move forward with this?

1145
01:27:52,340 --> 01:27:59,810
Well, I think we should, I'm going to write a couple of sentences and make sure that we'll

1146
01:28:00,660 --> 01:28:03,100
just get this helpful, I can also have a conversation.

1147
01:28:04,180 --> 01:28:06,080
That would be great if that would be helpful for you.

1148
01:28:06,460 --> 01:28:08,900
Oh, it would be very helpful.

1149
01:28:09,420 --> 01:28:09,660
Okay.

1150
01:28:10,080 --> 01:28:14,120
So guys, it's eight o'clock and we've got some marching word ratio.

1151
01:28:17,340 --> 01:28:24,520
that CRB grant consideration. Okay, so this is there,

1152
01:28:26,940 --> 01:28:45,020
there's a need on the Kiosk. They're almost 60 of them around the valley. They're all branded Kiosk. They're a good shape, except that almost all the dog signs have been stolen off of them.

1153
01:28:45,020 --> 01:28:49,720
and recently raised your change to having a leash box.

1154
01:28:50,300 --> 01:28:52,620
So some of this, if the yard signs,

1155
01:28:52,860 --> 01:28:54,300
there's still a bit of a DNA date,

1156
01:28:55,540 --> 01:28:57,400
but four thousand dollar group of signs

1157
01:28:57,400 --> 01:28:59,680
that it's still on since, in July.

1158
01:28:59,700 --> 01:29:00,640
Are they hanging?

1159
01:29:01,100 --> 01:29:02,200
That other day is stolen.

1160
01:29:02,700 --> 01:29:03,520
But now it's a safety.

1161
01:29:04,100 --> 01:29:06,200
They were metal signs that we funded,

1162
01:29:06,720 --> 01:29:09,020
that I've gotten stolen that, please,

1163
01:29:09,540 --> 01:29:12,520
yeah, we should go, I'm gonna put it very thing.

1164
01:29:13,020 --> 01:29:14,140
There was a big dog meeting

1165
01:29:14,140 --> 01:29:19,960
I'm going to talk about that in my objective drug to report, but what has happened is there's

1166
01:29:19,960 --> 01:29:24,920
a grant opportunity, it's the election plan,

1167
01:29:26,940 --> 01:29:33,040
that would entertain money or key asks, but requires

1168
01:29:33,040 --> 01:29:33,780
a match.

1169
01:29:34,800 --> 01:29:54,470
So, it's going through CRV and just trying to figure out if we could, a couple of different organizations could put out so many suggestions to ask the board, could we consider a $5,000 match to that?

1170
01:29:54,630 --> 01:29:59,590
Just have to put the money aside if you don't get the grant, you're not to spend it on that.

1171
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:04,700
We can't apply for the grant unless you have the matching funds.

1172
01:30:04,980 --> 01:30:14,580
And in terms of the budget, that would come out of our grant budget, but out of our carryover,

1173
01:30:14,580 --> 01:30:24,560
carryover, which has 66, 800, otherwise we would do so grant, because we're going to end

1174
01:30:24,560 --> 01:30:29,980
up reducing our grant, availability of our grant money, because of that, so if we were

1175
01:30:29,980 --> 01:30:37,700
allocator. Yes, we want to give that matching 1,000, where from the budget will it come,

1176
01:30:37,700 --> 01:30:38,740
would it come from the carry,

1177
01:30:41,200 --> 01:30:44,600
as opposed to or some kind of available grant funds?

1178
01:30:44,920 --> 01:30:45,640
I mean,

1179
01:30:52,620 --> 01:30:58,200
it's just also rare that additions to the key asks are also trying to integrate

1180
01:30:58,200 --> 01:31:08,380
attitude of gratitude, so we have a nice code of ethics, but we had to kick off that's it.

1181
01:31:08,380 --> 01:31:13,720
who else have a QR code, that it's a translation

1182
01:31:13,720 --> 01:31:16,720
in differential Spanish, to be more welcoming.

1183
01:31:17,520 --> 01:31:19,420
There are some work accessibility things

1184
01:31:19,420 --> 01:31:20,540
that we should put on there.

1185
01:31:21,540 --> 01:31:24,720
And at some point, the math should be read down to that.

1186
01:31:24,720 --> 01:31:28,060
Maybe to a sense of the orientation is not the best.

1187
01:31:28,980 --> 01:31:33,360
And when I feel like in the community planner,

1188
01:31:33,360 --> 01:31:41,580
the planning district is willing to write the grant and manage it, they can't contribute cash,

1189
01:31:41,900 --> 01:31:47,140
but that how they're set off, you know, they've staffed costs, and so that this would be like

1190
01:31:47,140 --> 01:31:54,920
their entire donation. It sounded like our CRV meeting that riders have passed, or any organization

1191
01:31:54,920 --> 01:32:04,920
whatever I found funny, but I think that the kiosks are squarely in our arena for recreation

1192
01:32:04,920 --> 01:32:12,600
and the valley because we want to have consistency and, you know, good branding. So,

1193
01:32:12,900 --> 01:32:18,220
what's the total budget for the project? Well, we're working on that. We think we're

1194
01:32:18,220 --> 01:32:23,560
to find $25,000 in matching funds in order to have a $50,000 dollar project.

1195
01:32:24,560 --> 01:32:28,340
So, that's about that in the ballpark of, like, oh, we'll need at least that much.

1196
01:32:28,400 --> 01:32:34,240
We might need more, but if we could just, you know, make some priorities over, you know,

1197
01:32:34,720 --> 01:32:39,480
yes, on trails that are used more often, or, you know, what's the year deadline again for

1198
01:32:39,480 --> 01:32:40,160
this one?

1199
01:32:40,500 --> 01:32:46,720
This is November 20th, and that's the, like, champagne, yeah, but you have, but and you have

1200
01:32:46,720 --> 01:32:52,560
to show them these things so it happened to show them where the money is set, right, so.

1201
01:32:53,260 --> 01:32:58,420
So, and I get, I don't need to keep the can down that road, but let me, am I correct

1202
01:32:58,420 --> 01:33:06,300
that there are, so moving parts to this question, whether those P.S. are on private

1203
01:33:06,300 --> 01:33:11,400
property, and I'm probably correct whether they are on their own, they're saying, hey, yeah,

1204
01:33:11,440 --> 01:33:14,500
I'm going to take there some, you want to talk about it next evening?

1205
01:33:14,500 --> 01:33:24,480
Well, this sounds like there's some pieces of this planning for this brand that we don't have the answers to yet.

1206
01:33:25,200 --> 01:33:30,560
So I'm wondering if there may be, like, setting some priorities about major P.S.

1207
01:33:30,860 --> 01:33:38,600
It just feels like when we say we're going to say, okay, we've contributed 5,000 as our other organizations

1208
01:33:38,600 --> 01:33:45,160
The having a better handle on what some of those parameters are on the grant will be useful.

1209
01:33:45,700 --> 01:33:50,200
It would also be useful for us in terms of our preliminary budget discussion.

1210
01:33:51,300 --> 01:33:59,320
And we say, well, you know, we're going to move some of it into the effort to the part there.

1211
01:33:59,320 --> 01:34:01,840
There's more than one grant that can be applied for.

1212
01:34:01,840 --> 01:34:08,460
there's pressure on the training district not to apply for a grant that the child

1213
01:34:08,460 --> 01:34:16,860
alliance is going to apply for, but there are more than one grant possible. I mean,

1214
01:34:16,980 --> 01:34:19,840
if a French has a line, but she applying for the gas,

1215
01:34:22,300 --> 01:34:24,680
you know, they're not going to,

1216
01:34:24,680 --> 01:34:29,240
They want to apply for their own projects, but as a part of CRB,

1217
01:34:32,060 --> 01:34:33,740
they do want to manage

1218
01:34:33,740 --> 01:34:40,760
the chaos, but they don't have any money to pay for them, but because all of us think

1219
01:34:40,760 --> 01:34:45,760
that is really an important thing, we're trying to get you out of the way to get there.

1220
01:34:45,760 --> 01:34:52,210
But the problem is if we, if we, if we didn't said, well, you know, we're, we're

1221
01:34:52,480 --> 01:34:56,100
leaning toward, because she got to start writing the grant.

1222
01:34:56,400 --> 01:35:00,480
So she can't wait until October, that was my next question.

1223
01:35:00,820 --> 01:35:01,560
Yeah, that's your problem.

1224
01:35:01,740 --> 01:35:09,720
It just feels like that, I think, I mean, I, I'd be comfortable from our carryover, not

1225
01:35:09,720 --> 01:35:17,760
some total grant funds availability to consider giving this once we have a better understanding

1226
01:35:17,760 --> 01:35:26,400
of what some of these parameters and limitations are. If it turns out, no, you can't put

1227
01:35:26,400 --> 01:35:32,280
them on this kind of property, but you can't put it on this. I think that's, I think that's

1228
01:35:32,280 --> 01:35:35,960
I think they're past that, they've got some positive answers on that.

1229
01:35:36,380 --> 01:35:43,560
I think that if we, it has to start somewhere, they keep, she can't read the grant and

1230
01:35:43,560 --> 01:35:46,120
that's just 25,000 of the matching ones.

1231
01:35:47,180 --> 01:35:55,040
So us saying, if we were to say, okay, we would do 5,000, if the chamber and the transelytes,

1232
01:35:55,140 --> 01:36:00,700
whatever, don't put on the app, we're never going to put that 5,000, the grant not

1233
01:36:00,700 --> 01:36:07,900
to be applied for. But because of its timing, if we said, okay, if you can get the other

1234
01:36:07,900 --> 01:36:15,460
funny, we'll give you five. Yeah. As a matching grant for me. I think the KS R important element

1235
01:36:15,460 --> 01:36:22,500
of preparation and the balance. Yeah, I want your sense on the other groups like funding it.

1236
01:36:22,520 --> 01:36:27,980
They might. I mean, it came up with the very end of a meeting and we didn't have an S chamber,

1237
01:36:27,980 --> 01:36:35,620
but the Chamber has a lot of financial needs and had a deficit from last year or so.

1238
01:36:35,700 --> 01:36:39,120
That's the system really soon. If we pay five, does that mean that the trade-offs

1239
01:36:39,120 --> 01:36:41,240
are going to pay 10% because it's two groups at large?

1240
01:36:43,660 --> 01:36:52,000
In general, I fully support, I fully support CRD. I think that something that we should consider

1241
01:36:52,000 --> 01:37:00,520
is it seems like we're going to have some type of annual contribution to CRD, whether that's

1242
01:37:00,520 --> 01:37:04,860
like attitude of gratitude, and right now those things feel like they're kind of coming at us,

1243
01:37:04,900 --> 01:37:10,360
and we have to make these case-by-case decisions. And I wonder if in our budgeting process next year,

1244
01:37:11,720 --> 01:37:20,240
we try to set aside some amount of funding, maybe it's from that 66K that we taper off the next

1245
01:37:20,240 --> 01:37:24,360
a couple of years to support CRD related projects to keep that rolling.

1246
01:37:24,960 --> 01:37:29,980
It's easier to take that on like, oh, we, we a lot of seven K for this year.

1247
01:37:30,000 --> 01:37:35,940
And so, you know, we haven't spent it, we can give 7K, and then it is to say, where are we going to find this one?

1248
01:37:36,620 --> 01:37:42,300
So that would be a suggestion is that we, to see our B-coupes coming up with requests.

1249
01:37:42,520 --> 01:37:47,780
And I think they're all honorable, and I think we want to stay, you know, stay consistent with all those partners.

1250
01:37:48,960 --> 01:37:55,040
But I do think it's probably worth our while to like try to figure out how much money it's going to take to continue to support that.

1251
01:37:55,040 --> 01:38:01,040
If I ever made a CRD meeting, I'm going to suggest that maybe there's like a due structure or something.

1252
01:38:01,560 --> 01:38:08,200
Like, from the bear initiative, we have a very small due structure for each of the partner organizations, which gives us an operating budget,

1253
01:38:08,400 --> 01:38:10,860
and then we collectively make decisions on how to spend that.

1254
01:38:11,040 --> 01:38:16,400
And that seems to be an easier way to have that money rather than ask after ask after ask.

1255
01:38:16,640 --> 01:38:18,820
I think that we're predictable for us, yes.

1256
01:38:18,820 --> 01:38:27,740
And also then, if you're contributing, I think the content on the Kiax will be a CRD decision,

1257
01:38:28,300 --> 01:38:31,880
not the people who owns it decision, which is the trail of alliance now.

1258
01:38:32,960 --> 01:38:37,120
That's what I want. That's what I'm hoping for, but I'm not sure that will happen.

1259
01:38:37,840 --> 01:38:43,120
Because I think if we're going to contribute this money or create a manual fund, you go to all the meetings.

1260
01:38:43,120 --> 01:38:45,880
I was going to the meeting of my kids' breakfast.

1261
01:38:46,760 --> 01:38:47,060
Kids.

1262
01:38:48,100 --> 01:38:48,140
Kids.

1263
01:38:49,440 --> 01:38:53,440
That we would want to have a voice.

1264
01:38:53,800 --> 01:38:54,280
No, no.

1265
01:38:54,420 --> 01:38:54,860
Consistently.

1266
01:38:55,040 --> 01:38:55,980
And I know you are that person.

1267
01:38:56,320 --> 01:38:57,500
Well, I am a voice.

1268
01:38:58,420 --> 01:39:03,420
But we have, we've tried to vote on leadership structure that people didn't want that.

1269
01:39:04,080 --> 01:39:09,340
It's getting harder to get things done in CRB because there is no leadership structure.

1270
01:39:09,340 --> 01:39:17,040
Branding does a great job in meeting the meetings and things we're on time for you out into it, but I

1271
01:39:17,040 --> 01:39:24,080
Think that I think it would be great to say that we would contribute 5,000 and not should for KES as long as

1272
01:39:24,720 --> 01:39:32,540
We have some say into the language on the KES. Yeah, I mean if it's a CRV project and everyone in CRV should be

1273
01:39:32,540 --> 01:39:37,980
Be a part of the conversation with the languages if it's a trail aligns project and they're making the signs and they're asking

1274
01:39:37,980 --> 01:39:40,160
Well, that's a different thing, right?

1275
01:39:42,740 --> 01:39:44,420
I love that.

1276
01:39:45,460 --> 01:39:47,040
It's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's how to, you know,

1277
01:39:47,280 --> 01:39:48,000
invest in writing.

1278
01:39:48,120 --> 01:39:48,420
I know.

1279
01:39:48,540 --> 01:39:49,240
It is the right.

1280
01:39:49,480 --> 01:39:50,920
That is the right way to do it.

1281
01:39:51,000 --> 01:39:52,020
Because it is a collaborative.

1282
01:39:52,800 --> 01:39:58,100
You can't just pick and choose when to be cooperative, which is kind of what happened

1283
01:39:58,100 --> 01:40:03,440
with attitude and I was hoping we learned from that, you know, but.

1284
01:40:03,780 --> 01:40:05,720
So that we would have to make a motion.

1285
01:40:05,720 --> 01:40:10,400
And we'd have to make that motion where language that was

1286
01:40:10,400 --> 01:40:22,060
specific enough that said that the money from the carry over $5,000 to be directed to the CRV

1287
01:40:22,060 --> 01:40:42,560
Yes, grant application with the understanding that the record district, along with collaboratively partners, partners, and how to say in the language.

1288
01:40:42,560 --> 01:40:43,680
That's

1289
01:40:45,120 --> 01:40:46,860
You I got I got a move

1290
01:40:48,000 --> 01:40:53,760
You won't be started that you only have to say I'm good. I'm really yeah, hold on. I

1291
01:40:53,760 --> 01:40:56,720
hope the money taking money from the carryover

1292
01:40:57,800 --> 01:41:06,850
To the CRB Kiosk ran application with the understanding of the rectus trip and clever partners have a same language as matching funds a matching fund 5,000

1293
01:41:07,980 --> 01:41:10,360
What is that what is our carryover?

1294
01:41:10,360 --> 01:41:15,060
Our carryover is 50,000, six, eight, four.

1295
01:41:15,440 --> 01:41:17,780
This is where we learn the why we have my carryover.

1296
01:41:17,820 --> 01:41:20,540
No, I just know there's also a bridge.

1297
01:41:20,760 --> 01:41:21,360
That's our answer.

1298
01:41:21,760 --> 01:41:22,460
I'm nice second.

1299
01:41:23,240 --> 01:41:25,020
Yes, I'm.

1300
01:41:25,140 --> 01:41:25,660
Oh, thank you.

1301
01:41:25,880 --> 01:41:26,340
On favor.

1302
01:41:28,460 --> 01:41:30,100
I can go to the quick process check.

1303
01:41:30,380 --> 01:41:31,480
We're over time.

1304
01:41:31,760 --> 01:41:35,400
I mean, we have, we have anything that doesn't require

1305
01:41:35,400 --> 01:41:37,500
this, essentially, to the next meeting.

1306
01:41:37,500 --> 01:41:43,820
Yeah. We may have to pull off on here. You can print your executive report, right?

1307
01:41:44,100 --> 01:41:48,100
Yeah, but we have to deal with the playboard. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm going to get my executive report

1308
01:41:48,100 --> 01:41:50,320
and see if anything requires a decision

1309
01:41:53,840 --> 01:41:56,620
because the playboard is very tricky to deal with.

1310
01:41:56,640 --> 01:42:00,240
Yeah. I think I think it can hold on. I don't know.

1311
01:42:00,640 --> 01:42:04,080
Oh, yeah. But I will add it. I'll go out and connect.

1312
01:42:04,480 --> 01:42:08,240
True. And is there anything? There's, if you want to say everybody take a look at

1313
01:42:08,240 --> 01:42:10,680
And then that's just as an item.

1314
01:42:11,080 --> 01:42:12,700
Now go to more tests.

1315
01:42:12,960 --> 01:42:13,860
We've got some more.

1316
01:42:14,320 --> 01:42:20,000
So let's move into the member of our emergency funding

1317
01:42:20,000 --> 01:42:22,220
for the program, Rich.

1318
01:42:24,430 --> 01:42:29,310
So the updates that I sent in terms of fundraising

1319
01:42:29,890 --> 01:42:34,870
since they got recently got $5,000 revenue contribution.

1320
01:42:35,310 --> 01:42:38,430
So now their need is 10,000.

1321
01:42:38,430 --> 01:42:54,130
I say either responses to the questions and the properties I walked you over the bridge, it looks going to the story side, hi up, and so

1322
01:42:56,240 --> 01:43:04,150
that's, so the nice support giving you some money to do the bridge,

1323
01:43:06,620 --> 01:43:08,080
yeah,

1324
01:43:12,190 --> 01:43:17,910
so we have some of this one money, so we have approximately 2000 that we didn't spend on swim lessons.

1325
01:43:18,950 --> 01:43:30,620
So that we didn't have any other organizations other than the Rotary Chamber, not the same as the last one.

1326
01:43:32,060 --> 01:43:38,900
For the path, you know, they're using their emergency reserves, what they, to find it.

1327
01:43:39,040 --> 01:43:43,500
But they're trying to get other groups to offset that, so they don't delete their reserves.

1328
01:43:43,500 --> 01:43:47,340
But if they got the complete amount covered, they weren't paying anything for it.

1329
01:43:47,580 --> 01:43:49,500
To have a sad time in kind of, you should obviously.

1330
01:43:50,200 --> 01:43:51,720
That is an interesting question.

1331
01:43:53,120 --> 01:43:55,100
I mean, they're obviously spending a lot of work into it.

1332
01:43:55,260 --> 01:43:58,000
Yes, they have done.

1333
01:43:59,300 --> 01:44:04,520
But sometimes they add into their need, right, covering the house.

1334
01:44:05,140 --> 01:44:06,500
They almost always do that.

1335
01:44:07,300 --> 01:44:09,500
They put it like I didn't pay themselves.

1336
01:44:10,300 --> 01:44:11,580
I mean, I know it gets all complicated.

1337
01:44:11,580 --> 01:44:17,440
gets all molded into this. What happens when they ask more money or at the grant cycle,

1338
01:44:17,460 --> 01:44:24,200
the word you give us a money to display your fridge. Not for tonight, we don't have time,

1339
01:44:24,360 --> 01:44:31,100
but I would like to put on the radar, or I talked about whether it would make sense for us to

1340
01:44:31,100 --> 01:44:38,560
create an emergency infrastructure capital fund, where we set some money aside every year.

1341
01:44:39,760 --> 01:44:50,420
for emergencies, like this, otherwise everything is in emergency, it's not meant to be the money.

1342
01:44:50,660 --> 01:44:59,620
And so what it amounts to ultimately is the potential for a lot of house cycle for us.

1343
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:06,880
We're always very sensitive to when it is needed, but we don't want it to be a precedent that

1344
01:45:07,800 --> 01:45:13,660
bypasses the regular grant application process, a way to, you know.

1345
01:45:13,880 --> 01:45:19,080
But both of the things, this paper to emergency and the turf, at matter of a part, are really

1346
01:45:19,080 --> 01:45:20,980
under five change.

1347
01:45:21,720 --> 01:45:31,000
that's the cost of subsidy, so there could be some restrictions with that or we, people don't have to know.

1348
01:45:31,160 --> 01:45:35,400
I mean, we're not going to, the emergency find is to ourselves.

1349
01:45:36,200 --> 01:45:39,240
We're inviting, we own a technical part.

1350
01:45:39,640 --> 01:45:44,760
We don't have, you know, this year because of that carryover, which won't happen again.

1351
01:45:44,760 --> 01:45:51,360
And where the lawsuits ramp up, the remaining money that put that's not going to necessarily

1352
01:45:51,360 --> 01:45:51,960
happen again.

1353
01:45:53,220 --> 01:45:58,340
So, you know, we have a big responsibility and usually we have, you know, reserve.

1354
01:45:59,640 --> 01:46:06,760
So we could call it a reserve instead of an emergency fund and we could, you know, get it

1355
01:46:06,760 --> 01:46:07,540
for ourselves.

1356
01:46:08,240 --> 01:46:12,940
But maybe it gives us some wiggle room, with somebody else, a graduation infrastructure

1357
01:46:13,760 --> 01:46:19,300
Yeah, I would caution us against creating a reserve for value when I get

1358
01:46:19,300 --> 01:46:24,440
a restructure or emergency, because I think it's vastly costly, it's beyond what we

1359
01:46:24,440 --> 01:46:28,240
would be able to do with our budget. So I think it would create false

1360
01:46:28,240 --> 01:46:32,880
expectations. I think we do build effort reserve for anything, and you should be

1361
01:46:32,880 --> 01:46:38,680
for that a report that is our asset. I think we should develop a long-term strategy

1362
01:46:38,680 --> 01:46:45,840
for building capital fun, but our ability to inject money into infrastructure failure

1363
01:46:45,840 --> 01:46:49,100
didn't kind of change. It's going to be a drop in the bucket.

1364
01:46:49,160 --> 01:46:54,320
Folks are going to have to see money on other places for those major infrastructure initiatives.

1365
01:46:56,590 --> 01:46:58,190
Maybe I should know this.

1366
01:46:58,510 --> 01:47:04,870
And I'm just going to say a couple of questions and ideas around this request.

1367
01:47:07,070 --> 01:47:14,570
like, how urgent or emergency was the need to replace the bridge.

1368
01:47:18,390 --> 01:47:22,030
And I guess I say that because like,

1369
01:47:22,250 --> 01:47:24,770
on there are other funding sources that aren't local,

1370
01:47:26,150 --> 01:47:29,490
because we when we use this language of like urgency,

1371
01:47:30,390 --> 01:47:36,610
like urgency is created when you're like,

1372
01:47:36,610 --> 01:47:41,230
into the path. In the past six months, there's been an urge to request for attention to

1373
01:47:41,230 --> 01:47:45,050
privacy, phone, there's been an urge to request because they need to pay a new person,

1374
01:47:45,210 --> 01:47:48,870
there's been an urge to request for a bridge and if everything is urgent, then nothing is urgent.

1375
01:47:50,250 --> 01:47:56,510
And so, is this something that could have been anticipated as a grant funding that could have

1376
01:47:56,510 --> 01:48:01,090
paid for this? Is that something that fell through? Like, there's a lot of questions for me around this.

1377
01:48:01,870 --> 01:48:09,090
I think an idea, I don't know if it's a solution, is that we, I'm assuming the reason

1378
01:48:09,090 --> 01:48:12,670
we're talking about this is because it's time to make me, we let them apply for their

1379
01:48:12,670 --> 01:48:20,510
$5,000 grant for this in advance of the debt of when the grant opens up because it has to

1380
01:48:20,510 --> 01:48:27,170
come from a funding source and that's what we have available. Let's go through that out there's an idea.

1381
01:48:27,170 --> 01:48:36,350
Well, I mean, they raise a 30,000 dollar project. They raise 20. They have their handlapped. They've already spent the money. They're using their reserve. So there isn't a timeline for that much.

1382
01:48:36,750 --> 01:48:38,930
It certainly is a 40,000 dollar project.

1383
01:48:39,390 --> 01:48:43,730
But it's not like they're not up against a deadline.

1384
01:48:44,970 --> 01:48:46,370
They're looking for 30,000 dollars.

1385
01:48:46,830 --> 01:48:49,910
I don't think they want an answer. I think that's a good way to put it.

1386
01:48:50,050 --> 01:48:55,050
And I think they have not. I mean, they did a burst of fundraising. They haven't done anything since.

1387
01:48:55,050 --> 01:48:56,770
They're just hoping to get.

1388
01:48:56,910 --> 01:48:59,050
Well, when you put out like a 40,000 more project,

1389
01:48:59,130 --> 01:49:00,430
like a lot of times, that's very important.

1390
01:49:00,750 --> 01:49:02,610
Not like, oh my gosh, we have to do this right now.

1391
01:49:04,150 --> 01:49:10,230
Well, which I would say, typically, as someone who works with an organization that has like,

1392
01:49:10,330 --> 01:49:14,190
I mean, you have one happening on your road, which is like, there's still being, there's like,

1393
01:49:14,470 --> 01:49:16,990
lots and lots of layers to this. And oftentimes, it's like,

1394
01:49:17,090 --> 01:49:19,450
forgiveness to get some major type of infrastructure.

1395
01:49:21,490 --> 01:49:29,470
They were planning to do a moderate repair to the bridge and then the flooding caused it to be

1396
01:49:29,470 --> 01:49:30,490
this much more expensive.

1397
01:49:31,010 --> 01:49:34,550
So, they were really looking to replenish the coffers.

1398
01:49:35,370 --> 01:49:37,290
Having borne it, spent the money.

1399
01:49:38,750 --> 01:49:43,730
I mean, that's why I mean, I think, you know, to me, we have about $2,000 in this event.

1400
01:49:44,670 --> 01:49:47,690
For swim lessons, it would be, you know, a show of faith.

1401
01:49:49,770 --> 01:49:57,930
We do have a lot of concerns, you know, financial concerns of our own and other things coming up.

1402
01:49:58,050 --> 01:50:00,690
So it could be a compromise to give them that.

1403
01:50:01,550 --> 01:50:05,450
I keep going back to like a quality and I feel like me really negative this meeting.

1404
01:50:06,570 --> 01:50:12,310
Well, one is like, I feel like these requests are coming in after they've already spent the money.

1405
01:50:12,310 --> 01:50:14,110
attitude of attitude was the same thing.

1406
01:50:14,210 --> 01:50:15,370
The web is the same as the video,

1407
01:50:15,550 --> 01:50:18,350
oh, and now we need the money, but it to me,

1408
01:50:18,510 --> 01:50:20,050
and it doesn't matter because it's not a grant,

1409
01:50:20,830 --> 01:50:24,050
but I feel like the request should come before

1410
01:50:24,050 --> 01:50:25,930
the money has been spent some,

1411
01:50:25,930 --> 01:50:27,710
I mean, the way that this is happening

1412
01:50:27,710 --> 01:50:29,350
sometimes this is it to me about.

1413
01:50:29,490 --> 01:50:33,030
Maybe I'm not that familiar with this type of timeline.

1414
01:50:33,290 --> 01:50:36,150
And the other thing is, is this the best use

1415
01:50:36,150 --> 01:50:39,850
of that $2,000 when we're talking about supporting

1416
01:50:39,850 --> 01:50:43,890
a diverse demographic in our community, is that bridge

1417
01:50:43,890 --> 01:50:47,690
heavily used by the people? You know I just think it is $2,000

1418
01:50:47,690 --> 01:50:49,850
in the ton of money but it's a ton of money to

1419
01:50:50,530 --> 01:50:54,030
matter of a soccer. It covers one

1420
01:50:54,030 --> 01:50:55,550
of our private achievements.

1421
01:50:59,770 --> 01:51:08,010
I think that the bridge was like getting to be unsafe and they felt like if they didn't

1422
01:51:08,010 --> 01:51:14,210
prepare it, soon they might have to spend more to prepare it like you and he was

1423
01:51:14,210 --> 01:51:19,130
the season, you know, pretty soon. You know, he's been hiking as much on the

1424
01:51:19,130 --> 01:51:24,950
on the path. So I don't know, but I think that was not emergency if they've

1425
01:51:24,950 --> 01:51:35,250
already spent the money. Right. Like, I mean, it's emergency. It's like, it's like,

1426
01:51:36,670 --> 01:51:42,710
Is it is this different than a bridge being out for the rich runners? Is it different than

1427
01:51:43,710 --> 01:51:49,630
like, but it just because it came up in a cycle of nature's pursuit of projects outside

1428
01:51:49,630 --> 01:51:57,030
of our ignorance. My view of energy considerations to them, but it might not be for us and

1429
01:51:57,030 --> 01:52:03,970
might not be our highest priority. I just I think that we've had a number of like out of

1430
01:52:03,970 --> 01:52:13,150
in cycle requests and more and more that are coming in and I think that that makes it

1431
01:52:13,150 --> 01:52:16,150
particularly tricky because you're not, you're like, what are we going to do with this

1432
01:52:16,150 --> 01:52:20,850
two-gram and it's not like looking at everything that every other recreational group is looking

1433
01:52:20,850 --> 01:52:25,690
out of the course texture. It's like, oh, these people told us right now that you need to make this happen

1434
01:52:25,690 --> 01:52:29,970
and we don't even know what else is going to be coming away. And so I want to

1435
01:52:31,340 --> 01:52:40,200
If it's not like emergency, like we have to pay for it, I would say the grant cycle starts, you know, the grants are open on October 15th. This is a seemed like a really good thing, even by far.

1436
01:52:41,180 --> 01:52:58,280
Well, but wouldn't that be an exception to what our grants are perceived that it's a reimbursement program. They usually, they haven't spent it until they apply for our grant. We say yes, they spend it reimbursed. So this would already be spent, I mean, I mean, I'm just saying, if you're okay with that, well,

1437
01:53:00,880 --> 01:53:13,860
And in terms of thinking about equity, fairness, it just feels, it does feel like the early bird gets the worm with some organizations, more so than others.

1438
01:53:14,800 --> 01:53:25,480
And what is the stock, other organizations from engaging in these concepts of the cycle, applications, kind of federal grants?

1439
01:53:26,120 --> 01:53:30,580
And if we're looking at this Kiosk project being really important to us, we need really important

1440
01:53:30,580 --> 01:53:31,160
to recreation.

1441
01:53:31,520 --> 01:53:35,580
I saw so many people looking at those Kioskists somewhere, like, notice how much others

1442
01:53:35,580 --> 01:53:37,360
are actually using it up.

1443
01:53:37,700 --> 01:53:44,020
If that's very important to us, you know, we have to, at some point, me, the hard decisions

1444
01:53:44,020 --> 01:53:46,520
of what we're going to do with our money, and you can do it all.

1445
01:53:48,640 --> 01:53:54,680
I think giving $2,000 just as a sign of show of faith is not really worth it.

1446
01:53:54,680 --> 01:53:56,980
I think we need to really think hard

1447
01:53:56,980 --> 01:53:59,020
at how we want to spend money.

1448
01:53:59,560 --> 01:54:01,900
And there's not a lot of it.

1449
01:54:01,940 --> 01:54:03,520
And now we have this huge park building.

1450
01:54:09,570 --> 01:54:10,410
Where are we going to do?

1451
01:54:10,530 --> 01:54:12,390
I mean, I'm going to have a little bit of a few talk.

1452
01:54:12,430 --> 01:54:12,910
I'm going to think about it.

1453
01:54:12,910 --> 01:54:14,330
I don't think we spend money.

1454
01:54:14,610 --> 01:54:16,370
But if we have a lot of other fields,

1455
01:54:16,670 --> 01:54:18,250
there's just a big looping thing, right?

1456
01:54:18,770 --> 01:54:19,130
Yeah.

1457
01:54:20,690 --> 01:54:23,390
I mean, most organizations have

1458
01:54:23,390 --> 01:54:26,230
they have, like, their annual budget, right?

1459
01:54:26,230 --> 01:54:28,650
So for instance, if path comes to us

1460
01:54:28,650 --> 01:54:36,290
the request or something else and they provide receipts for it. I think to expect that there's

1461
01:54:36,290 --> 01:54:41,330
going to be, you know, 5,000 for the path, 5,000 for the riders and we're going to chip in this

1462
01:54:41,330 --> 01:54:51,490
money and the emergency, that feels like a lot of asks, all coming within a couple of months.

1463
01:54:51,490 --> 01:54:52,770
And the KS.

1464
01:54:52,970 --> 01:54:56,490
Well, I mean, the KS are theoretically a shared resource.

1465
01:54:57,090 --> 01:54:59,530
But I'd like to really talk about that way, Andy.

1466
01:54:59,650 --> 01:55:01,990
I mean, it does kind of feel like another aspect.

1467
01:55:02,210 --> 01:55:02,370
Right.

1468
01:55:02,770 --> 01:55:04,270
So I think that that's part of that.

1469
01:55:04,270 --> 01:55:05,310
No, I think the KS.

1470
01:55:05,530 --> 01:55:08,210
I mean, even if that is value right.

1471
01:55:08,370 --> 01:55:10,830
I have a really long, and now I have a recommendation.

1472
01:55:11,210 --> 01:55:12,530
I agree with that.

1473
01:55:12,530 --> 01:55:17,310
But if there's some conversation, I heard at the CRB meeting that one person, like one organization

1474
01:55:17,310 --> 01:55:19,810
to go back and that organization is the same.

1475
01:55:19,810 --> 01:55:28,330
So yes, I, I, yeah, we have a heart, we have a big, and we have limited funds, and we have

1476
01:55:28,330 --> 01:55:28,950
a reward.

1477
01:55:31,850 --> 01:55:38,470
So I think we, I think we can also come and say, like, we have a grand cycle coming up.

1478
01:55:38,990 --> 01:55:42,130
We have, we don't know what the requests are going to be. We don't know how much money we're going

1479
01:55:42,130 --> 01:55:46,450
to have after that. And it's something we can consider, but it's really hard for us to spend access

1480
01:55:46,450 --> 01:55:50,810
money right before we're about to go into our biggest giving time of the year.

1481
01:55:52,380 --> 01:55:56,460
You would, they could write their grant.

1482
01:55:57,240 --> 01:56:03,620
I don't know, maybe, I don't know how to, I mean, I also, I'm like typically the one that doesn't want to get like an exception.

1483
01:56:04,420 --> 01:56:13,540
Well, I think what I'm saying is we, it's hard for us to take this request right now because we're literally getting ready to launch our grants system, our grant program.

1484
01:56:14,080 --> 01:56:17,240
We don't know how many requests we're going to have and what that's where we take.

1485
01:56:17,240 --> 01:56:19,400
we've got a major bill coming from that of a car.

1486
01:56:20,000 --> 01:56:22,500
And so it would be potentially financially

1487
01:56:22,500 --> 01:56:24,100
irresponsible for us to be like, yeah,

1488
01:56:24,160 --> 01:56:26,360
we're going to hone the up and give all this money

1489
01:56:26,360 --> 01:56:28,880
and then we find ourselves in a position in two months

1490
01:56:28,880 --> 01:56:31,620
where we're like, well, sorry, we can't give this group

1491
01:56:31,620 --> 01:56:32,600
this amount of money.

1492
01:56:32,680 --> 01:56:34,160
You don't have this additional money.

1493
01:56:34,760 --> 01:56:38,040
I think there's a lot of financial decisions

1494
01:56:38,040 --> 01:56:41,100
that are looming and it's really hard to just be like,

1495
01:56:41,140 --> 01:56:42,320
yes, we're going to do this one.

1496
01:56:43,180 --> 01:56:45,260
Just because it's on our plate right now.

1497
01:56:46,640 --> 01:56:47,440
I agree.

1498
01:56:47,760 --> 01:56:47,940
Yeah.

1499
01:56:48,140 --> 01:56:54,460
I think because the work has already been done, it's like we're being asked with their own

1500
01:56:54,460 --> 01:56:55,180
reserves.

1501
01:56:55,620 --> 01:56:55,800
Yeah.

1502
01:56:55,880 --> 01:56:58,220
We're being asked to refill their reserves.

1503
01:56:58,540 --> 01:56:59,020
It's not like.

1504
01:56:59,480 --> 01:57:00,180
With our reserves.

1505
01:57:00,400 --> 01:57:00,640
Right.

1506
01:57:01,820 --> 01:57:02,560
So I mean, yeah.

1507
01:57:03,580 --> 01:57:04,740
I'm like, I don't even write that.

1508
01:57:06,440 --> 01:57:08,200
I'm happy to say whatever.

1509
01:57:08,780 --> 01:57:09,260
Next for me.

1510
01:57:09,300 --> 01:57:15,180
And that's a big issue that is going to come up that I just do want to mention.

1511
01:57:16,140 --> 01:57:21,760
is that we're really good meeting with a bunch of people about dogs because of the dogs that

1512
01:57:21,760 --> 01:57:27,560
were telling the sugar and I think to a lot of good ideas that there needs to be some funding for that.

1513
01:57:28,340 --> 01:57:39,240
So that group may write a grant, which I think is also important for us because we have to have safety and consistency on the trails in the valley.

1514
01:57:41,120 --> 01:57:48,360
So we didn't get, we may have, you know, yet another group applying this never applied before.

1515
01:57:50,470 --> 01:57:52,490
I think we're in also a reality now right now.

1516
01:57:53,110 --> 01:57:54,570
More people are going to need more money.

1517
01:57:55,210 --> 01:58:00,190
Everything's more expensive and everyone's more expensive.

1518
01:58:01,900 --> 01:58:02,080
Okay.

1519
01:58:02,240 --> 01:58:05,260
I think that's the pragmatic reality check.

1520
01:58:05,600 --> 01:58:06,440
There we are.

1521
01:58:06,860 --> 01:58:09,140
So where it was nice to go to provide pictures.

1522
01:58:10,240 --> 01:58:14,840
information about the project. It's clear that you fit it right.

1523
01:58:18,600 --> 01:58:23,480
Okay. It's a third one, two.

1524
01:58:23,480 --> 01:58:27,400
We'll have a motion to adjourn.

1525
01:58:28,240 --> 01:58:28,940
To move.

1526
01:58:29,660 --> 01:58:30,280
Wall of favor.

1527
01:58:31,340 --> 01:58:33,100
We have to get a second.

1528
01:58:33,500 --> 01:58:35,220
All in favor.

1529
01:58:36,080 --> 01:58:36,360
All in favor.

1530
01:58:36,360 --> 01:58:37,660
All in favor.

1531
01:58:37,680 --> 01:58:38,160
All in favor.

1532
01:58:38,220 --> 01:58:40,100
All in favor.

1533
01:58:40,340 --> 01:58:41,120
All in favor.

1534
01:58:41,120 --> 01:58:41,540
All in favor.

1535
01:58:42,220 --> 01:58:44,480
All in favor.