[0:44] Good evening. Welcome to the board of
[0:46] commissioners regular meeting. Today is
[0:48] Wednesday, August 12th, 2026. It is 6:01
[0:52] p.m. City attorney, would you please
[0:54] lead us in the invocation and pledge of
[0:56] allegiance?
[0:57] >> Sure.
[0:59] » Sure.
[0:59] Our heavenly father, we meet to serve
[1:00] our community, to use our resources
[1:02] wisely and well, to represent all
[1:04] members of our community fairly, and to
[1:06] make decisions that promote the common
[1:08] good. We recognize our responsibility to
[1:11] the past and the future, as well as the
[1:12] rights and needs of both individuals and
[1:14] our community. As trusted servants, we
[1:17] seek blessings on our deliberations this
[1:19] evening. This we pray. Amen.
[1:23] I pledge allegiance to the flag of the
[1:25] United States of America and to the
[1:28] republic for which it stands, one nation
[1:31] under God, indivisible, with liberty and
[1:34] justice for all.
[1:43] » City clerk, would you call the role,
[1:44] please?
[1:45] >> Mayor Brooks,
[1:46] » Mayor Brooks,
[1:46] >> here.
[1:49] » Here. Commissioner Taglery
[1:51] >> here.
[1:52] » here.
[1:52] >> Commissioner Dylan
[1:53] » Commissioner Dylan
[1:54] >> here.
[1:54] » here.
[1:54] >> Commissioner Gavayi
[1:55] » Commissioner Gavayi
[1:55] >> here.
[1:55] » here.
[1:56] >> All are present.
[1:57] » All are present.
[1:57] >> Next is the approval of the agenda.
[2:01] » Next is the approval of the agenda.
[2:01] If the commission has reviewed the
[2:03] agenda and there are no changes, do we
[2:05] have a motion?
[2:06] >> I move that we approve the agenda as as
[2:08] » I move that we approve the agenda as as
[2:08] published.
[2:10] >> Second.
[2:10] » Second.
[2:10] >> City clerk, would you call the role,
[2:12] » City clerk, would you call the role,
[2:12] please?
[2:14] >> Commissioner Taglery,
[2:15] » Commissioner Taglery,
[2:15] >> yes.
[2:15] » yes.
[2:16] >> Commissioner Gabbay,
[2:17] » Commissioner Gabbay,
[2:17] >> yes.
[2:17] » yes.
[2:17] >> Commissioner Dylan,
[2:18] » Commissioner Dylan,
[2:18] >> yes. Vice Mayor McGee,
[2:20] » yes. Vice Mayor McGee,
[2:20] >> yes.
[2:21] » yes.
[2:21] >> Mayor Brooks,
[2:21] » Mayor Brooks,
[2:21] >> yes.
[2:22] » yes.
[2:22] >> The motion carried five to zero.
[2:25] » The motion carried five to zero.
[2:25] >> With no presentations, we will move on
[2:27] » With no presentations, we will move on
[2:27] to public comment. Public participation
[2:29] is encouraged. If you are addressing the
[2:32] commission, step to the podium and state
[2:34] your name and address for the record and
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[2:39] Please limit your comments to five
[2:41] minutes and do not include any topic on
[2:44] the agenda. Public comment on agenda
[2:46] items will be allowed when they come up.
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[3:07] For any quasi judicial public hearings
[3:10] that might be on the agenda, an affected
[3:13] person may become a party to a quasi
[3:15] judicial proceeding and can be entitled
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[3:25] other documentary evidence and to
[3:27] cross-examine all witnesses by filing a
[3:30] notice of intent to be a party with the
[3:32] community development director not less
[3:34] than 5 days prior to the hearing. Do we
[3:37] have any public comment?
[3:44] » Hi, Bob Bellow 13301 Golf Lane. Um, I
[3:47] apologize if I missed any announcements
[3:50] and this is redundant, but I'd like to
[3:52] recognize Megan and public works team
[3:53] and thank them for their continued work
[3:55] with Duke Energy on the undergrounding
[3:57] project. Um, as a resident, it's
[4:00] exciting to start to see some tangible
[4:03] progress. We understand that
[4:05] coordinating with Duke has been a
[4:06] challenge and the project has
[4:08] experienced delays, but recently we've
[4:10] seen crews out. They've contacted some
[4:13] of the residents such as myself um
[4:15] marking sites about two weeks ago. I
[4:18] understand there's another round of them
[4:21] coming out and doing some site visits
[4:23] again probably next week in plan
[4:25] preparation for phase one of the storm
[4:27] damage repairs. So publicly would like
[4:30] to say thank you to Megan and everyone
[4:31] else involved for their persistence and
[4:33] hard work in moving this project
[4:34] forward. Thank you.
[4:37] >> Thank you. Do we have any additional
[4:39] » Thank you. Do we have any additional
[4:39] public comment?
[4:41] With no additional public comment, we
[4:43] will move move on to the approval of the
[4:45] minutes. If the commission has had the
[4:48] opportunity to review the minutes and
[4:50] there are no changes, do we have a
[4:52] commission or do we have a
[4:56] motion?
[4:58] >> My brain is thinking about something
[4:59] » My brain is thinking about something
[4:59] else.
[5:00] >> Yes.
[5:01] » Yes.
[5:01] >> I make a motion to approve the minutes.
[5:04] » I make a motion to approve the minutes.
[5:04] >> Do we have a second?
[5:07] » Do we have a second?
[5:07] >> A second.
[5:09] » A second.
[5:09] >> City clerk, would you call the role,
[5:10] » City clerk, would you call the role,
[5:10] please?
[5:11] >> Commissioner Dylan,
[5:12] » Commissioner Dylan,
[5:12] >> yes.
[5:13] » yes.
[5:13] >> Vice Mayor McGee,
[5:14] » Vice Mayor McGee,
[5:14] >> yes. Commissioner Gabayi,
[5:16] » yes. Commissioner Gabayi,
[5:16] >> yes.
[5:17] » yes.
[5:17] >> Commissioner Taglerini,
[5:18] » Commissioner Taglerini,
[5:18] >> yes.
[5:19] » yes.
[5:19] >> Mayor Brooks,
[5:19] » Mayor Brooks,
[5:19] >> yes.
[5:20] » yes.
[5:20] >> The motion carried five to zero.
[5:22] » The motion carried five to zero.
[5:22] >> Next is the consent agenda. Any member
[5:25] » Next is the consent agenda. Any member
[5:25] of the board of commissioners can ask to
[5:27] pull a consent item for separate
[5:29] discussion and vote. I will read the
[5:31] items. A ITB number 26-04
[5:36] storm water backflow prevention project.
[5:39] B. Disaster Debris Management
[5:42] Participation Agreement with DRC.
[5:45] C. Amendment to RFP number 26-05,
[5:50] Marina Seaw Wall replacement number two
[5:53] to include 129th Avenue Area 5 seaw wall
[5:57] replacement and D interlocal agreement
[5:59] with Pineellis County posttorm recovery
[6:02] services within geographic Pineellis
[6:04] County.
[6:08] Madam Mayor, I would like to pull item
[6:11] A. Okay.
[6:14] >> Any additional comments on the consent
[6:17] » Any additional comments on the consent
[6:17] agenda?
[6:19] Then do we have a motion to approve B,
[6:22] C, and D?
[6:22] >> I move that we pass the consent agenda
[6:25] » I move that we pass the consent agenda
[6:25] with the extraction of item A.
[6:27] >> Second.
[6:28] » Second.
[6:28] >> City clerk, would you call the role,
[6:29] » City clerk, would you call the role,
[6:29] please?
[6:33] » Commissioner Tagarini.
[6:34] >> Yes. Commissioner Gabay,
[6:37] » Yes. Commissioner Gabay,
[6:37] >> yes.
[6:38] » yes.
[6:38] >> Commissioner Dylan,
[6:39] » Commissioner Dylan,
[6:39] >> yes.
[6:40] » yes.
[6:40] >> Vice Mayor McGee,
[6:42] » Vice Mayor McGee,
[6:42] >> yes.
[6:42] » yes.
[6:42] >> Mayor Brooks,
[6:43] » Mayor Brooks,
[6:43] >> yes.
[6:44] » yes.
[6:44] >> The [clears throat] motion carried 5 to
[6:46] » The [clears throat] motion carried 5 to
[6:46] zero. Next on the agenda then will be
[6:48] item A, ITB number 2604, storm water
[6:52] backflow prevention project.
[6:56] Commissioner Go.
[6:59] Um, we discussed this at the um,
[7:02] previous [clears throat] uh, workshop
[7:03] and I'm just not in favor of it and I my
[7:06] vote will not be yes.
[7:09] >> So, Megan, I think you have something to
[7:11] » So, Megan, I think you have something to
[7:11] show us.
[7:12] >> Tom, can you pause that for a second?
[7:16] » Tom, can you pause that for a second?
[7:16] >> Thank you. So, I do have a video that is
[7:19] » Thank you. So, I do have a video that is
[7:19] up on the screens for you all to see.
[7:21] This is the valves that we would be
[7:23] installing. So, this video is going to
[7:25] show you the installation. Actually, go
[7:28] ahead and play it, Tom, and I'll walk
[7:29] you through. So, this is a storm drain.
[7:33] This is the valve that goes inside the
[7:35] storm drain. It gets mounted at the
[7:38] outfall. The black that you see, that is
[7:41] a rubber gasket. So, what you're seeing
[7:44] now is the water like if there's a rain
[7:46] event. So, that's emptying out into the
[7:49] bay. What you're going to see coming now
[7:52] would be the tide coming up.
[7:56] So that'll show you that as long as that
[7:58] valve and that gasket is closed, the
[8:01] water is not able to enter back into the
[8:03] pipe. Now the pipe filling up is if
[8:05] there's a rain event at the same time.
[8:08] So this is if there is a title event
[8:11] with a rain event and there's not enough
[8:13] pressure from the roadway to push that
[8:16] gasket open, it is then going to cause
[8:19] some minor issues on the roadway with
[8:21] flooding. But once once that tide goes
[8:25] down, you'll see that that valve opened
[8:27] up and was allowed able to empty the
[8:30] roadway. So I just thought it was really
[8:32] important for you all to see how that
[8:33] works. Obviously
[8:36] issues that we have had in the past
[8:39] would be if there is any type of debris
[8:41] that gets stuck within that gasket. We
[8:44] have had issues in certain areas. We do
[8:46] have these in Boca. We have them in
[8:49] 137th Avenue Circle. And then we did
[8:52] have one on Puit Drive, but we upsized
[8:54] that pipe. So, this project would put
[8:57] another valve in that location because
[8:59] it is extremely low.
[9:02] At the beginning, whenever we first
[9:04] received these valves back in 2017, we
[9:06] had a big education push that we did
[9:09] that helped tremendously with the
[9:11] residents. So residents that don't hold
[9:13] their landscaping debris in their yards
[9:17] and ones that are particularly right at
[9:19] the inlets typically are the issue. But
[9:23] with the landscape ordinance that Joe is
[9:25] working on and Marcy's team, that'll
[9:27] help tremendously. But what you've all
[9:30] seen, and I'm not sure if anyone has
[9:31] driven around, that the title events
[9:33] that we've had in the last couple weeks
[9:35] in the areas where we do have the
[9:37] valves, the water did not did not
[9:40] overtake the roadway. Was it in the curb
[9:42] line? Probably because water will find
[9:44] the path of least resistance. It's not
[9:46] going to 100% stop the water, but it
[9:49] will slow it down enough to where it
[9:50] will not cover the roadway. So this is
[9:53] an option that the residents have asked
[9:55] us to re to try to you know alleviate.
[9:59] This is the best solution for what we
[10:02] currently have in place until we start
[10:04] being more resilient and raising
[10:06] roadways.
[10:09] » Do we have any public comment?
[10:13] Commissioners, do you have any comments
[10:14] or questions?
[10:18] » I just appreciate that. It helps me to
[10:20] understand.
[10:21] >> Absolutely. Oh, that's great that
[10:22] » Absolutely. Oh, that's great that
[10:22] visual. Thank you.
[10:23] >> You're welcome.
[10:23] » You're welcome.
[10:23] >> The issue in my mind when the water
[10:25] » The issue in my mind when the water
[10:25] comes up, it basically shuts the flapper
[10:28] valve and does not allow the water from
[10:30] the street to get to the bay and that
[10:33] builds up.
[10:35] Until that water goes down in the bay,
[10:39] that valve will be shut.
[10:42] So, I I'm not in favor of it. I'm sorry.
[10:45] >> So, then I have a question
[10:48] » So, then I have a question
[10:48] to play off of the commissioner's
[10:50] comments.
[10:51] So if the water in the bay is here and
[10:55] the wa and we have a so we have a flood
[10:57] and a rain event no water's going
[11:00] anywhere.
[11:01] >> That is correct without the valve.
[11:03] » That is correct without the valve.
[11:03] >> So without the valve there if it was
[11:05] » So without the valve there if it was
[11:05] just open when the bay rises the water
[11:08] is going to come up in the pipe and it's
[11:10] going to flood the street even if
[11:11] there's not a water event.
[11:13] >> That is correct. But if the if the valve
[11:15] » That is correct. But if the if the valve
[11:16] is there and the bay rises and it's not
[11:19] raining, then the water the valve is
[11:22] going to stay closed and the water is
[11:23] not going to go on the road.
[11:24] >> Correct.
[11:25] » Correct.
[11:25] >> Correct.
[11:25] » Correct.
[11:25] >> Yes.
[11:25] » Yes.
[11:26] >> So
[11:28] » So
[11:28] >> the the top of the inlet is typically
[11:31] » the the top of the inlet is typically
[11:31] I'm going to say maybe a couple of
[11:33] inches below the seaw wall.
[11:36] So, you know, the the water basically I
[11:41] if
[11:43] you know, if it rises, it'll go through
[11:45] the seaw wall and it'll flood the the
[11:48] streets.
[11:49] >> 90% of our issues with localized roadway
[11:52] » 90% of our issues with localized roadway
[11:52] flooding is due to tidal events.
[11:55] >> Yeah. Yes, we do have shortterm if if
[11:59] » Yeah. Yes, we do have shortterm if if
[11:59] the tide is low, we do have shortterm
[12:03] localized flooding because the system
[12:05] may need a minute to catch up,
[12:06] especially in areas where pipes are way
[12:08] under sized.
[12:10] But along 140th, prime example, if you
[12:13] are a few days ago in the the the tide
[12:17] that we had at a 3-foot and even along
[12:18] North Bay Shore in certain sections,
[12:21] >> there is water in the road to where you
[12:23] » there is water in the road to where you
[12:23] can barely pass one lane. Yeah, the the
[12:27] water basically has to go through the
[12:28] pipe. It'll come up through if the inlet
[12:32] is low. The water obviously will be
[12:36] flooding.
[12:37] >> All of our inlets are low along with our
[12:40] » All of our inlets are low along with our
[12:40] roads.
[12:41] >> They're all very low. I would say
[12:43] » They're all very low. I would say
[12:44] >> what happens to the rain when you know
[12:45] » what happens to the rain when you know
[12:45] when it's raining. So the the valve is
[12:48] shut, the water is all the way to the
[12:50] top of the grate and and you have a
[12:53] rainfall
[12:54] >> right now. Currently with no valve, the
[12:56] » right now. Currently with no valve, the
[12:56] water is not going to go anywhere until
[12:57] the tide goes down.
[12:59] >> Same as what it would do currently. So
[13:01] » Same as what it would do currently. So
[13:01] if there's not enough pressure in the
[13:03] roadway without a valve,
[13:05] >> you will see here and you and I receive
[13:07] » you will see here and you and I receive
[13:07] several calls if we have a high tide and
[13:09] a rain event.
[13:11] >> Without any valves, our roadways will
[13:13] » Without any valves, our roadways will
[13:13] flood.
[13:14] >> So really, it's not too much different.
[13:15] » So really, it's not too much different.
[13:16] You just need a little bit more pressure
[13:17] with a valve.
[13:19] >> Okay. You'll be driving through fresh
[13:21] » Okay. You'll be driving through fresh
[13:22] water as opposed to salt water. Correct.
[13:24] >> Which is helps the vehicles. Um, how
[13:27] » Which is helps the vehicles. Um, how
[13:27] many valves? This is this is one thing.
[13:31] We've got some valves in place. We've
[13:33] got this thing for more valves. How many
[13:36] more valves do you see, you know, that
[13:40] we could need as a city? this project
[13:44] when I was building it out and going out
[13:46] for bid and working on budgeting I
[13:49] budgeted for to be able to do 13 13
[13:52] valves throughout the city with just
[13:55] this project in place now we have seven
[13:59] in Bokea and we have three along 137th.
[14:04] So then kind of my question is I guess
[14:06] is in terms of do you foresee I I have a
[14:10] good idea this is going to work very
[14:12] well. Do you think we need another 10 20
[14:17] or I mean you or is this too much
[14:19] speculation?
[14:21] >> I think that we could go for more
[14:22] » I think that we could go for more
[14:22] funding next year. I think we need to
[14:24] look at our capital improvement plan
[14:26] because we don't want to buy valves for
[14:28] small pipes if that's our next project
[14:30] area. So the valves that are within this
[14:33] project, we have mostly anywhere from 12
[14:36] in to 15in pipes and then there's a few
[14:39] 18-in. So those those valves can move if
[14:42] that's like within the next project
[14:44] area. So even if it is in a project area
[14:46] within the next 2 years, we can then
[14:49] move it to say East Madiraa Avenue who
[14:52] is a little bit further out on our CIP
[14:54] schedule.
[14:57] >> So the valves are removable.
[14:59] » So the valves are removable.
[14:59] >> Yes, absolutely. Thank you.
[15:02] » Yes, absolutely. Thank you.
[15:02] >> Okay, I have uh just a couple quick
[15:04] » Okay, I have uh just a couple quick
[15:04] questions. Uh
[15:08] these
[15:11] uh valves will help with the nuisance
[15:14] flooding, right? Correct.
[15:16] >> The title flooding. Yes.
[15:17] » The title flooding. Yes.
[15:17] >> Yes. The nuisance flooding. And we also
[15:20] » Yes. The nuisance flooding. And we also
[15:20] were awarded a a grant of $100,000.
[15:23] >> That is correct. We have a grant from FD
[15:25] » That is correct. We have a grant from FD
[15:25] for $100,000 and we are matching that
[15:27] $100,000. So, total of $200,000 project.
[15:32] >> Awesome. And you said um the maintenance
[15:36] » Awesome. And you said um the maintenance
[15:36] on these valves is quarterly.
[15:38] >> We do maintenance on them quarterly.
[15:39] » We do maintenance on them quarterly.
[15:39] That is correct. So, we have a system
[15:41] 4Erunner. The planning and zoning
[15:43] department also uses 4Runner. So, we
[15:45] have all this information in one
[15:47] program. We then document the cleaning
[15:50] of those and we are working with 4Runner
[15:52] to be able to make sure that we schedule
[15:54] those out so we make sure that we're
[15:55] hitting them quarterly. We probably do
[15:59] clean them more often and if we notice
[16:01] that there's an issue, the guys will
[16:03] jump in and check it immediately.
[16:05] >> Yeah. Thank you for uh
[16:08] » Yeah. Thank you for uh
[16:08] the tour you gave me for where the
[16:09] valves were going to be located. And um
[16:12] also
[16:15] what is the uh and we had talked about
[16:17] that. What is the number uh what's a
[16:19] couple of things that really stop the
[16:22] valves from working?
[16:24] >> Mulch, everyone's favorite. Uh we love
[16:27] » Mulch, everyone's favorite. Uh we love
[16:27] the mulch we have. Um in the Bokeh
[16:30] neighborhood, there is a lot of
[16:31] residents who have rock and shell that
[16:34] are right all the way up to the curb
[16:36] line. They do not have any barriers to
[16:39] hold in the landscaping material. So I
[16:42] know that Joe asked me about that one.
[16:44] So that was made sure to put into the
[16:45] new ordinance. Um landscaping debris. I
[16:49] know it's amazing, but may a lot of
[16:52] people put their piles of brush directly
[16:55] on top of the storm drain grates. So,
[16:57] that is something that is a big problem.
[17:00] So, it it's it's really based upon like
[17:03] area. So, 137th, I honestly do not have
[17:06] issues, knock on wood, with those
[17:08] valves. Bokeh was a big adjustment with
[17:11] the landscaping and and educating the
[17:14] residents. Basically, we can only clean
[17:16] them so often. help us help you. Please
[17:19] ensure you keep all your debris
[17:21] maintained. If something gets in between
[17:23] that valve, as you have you seen, it
[17:25] can't close. So, if it can't close and
[17:28] it can't stop the water and that was one
[17:30] of the major issues. We also found that
[17:32] making sure that you hydraulically seal
[17:34] around that valve is a big big big
[17:37] proponent. So, we that's why we're going
[17:39] through this project the way that we
[17:41] are.
[17:42] >> So, if there barnacles build up, how do
[17:44] » So, if there barnacles build up, how do
[17:44] you remove the barnacles? same way you
[17:47] do a pipe, but the barnacles, knock on
[17:48] wood, don't really secure to the the
[17:51] rubber. So, mostly the what's what you
[17:54] see is exposed is if they do grow, they
[17:56] grow on the exterior of it, which
[17:58] doesn't affect the valve, but cleaning
[18:00] them and have a ma a maintenance
[18:02] schedule really helps with that.
[18:04] >> Thank you.
[18:05] » Thank you.
[18:05] >> Thank you.
[18:06] » Thank you.
[18:06] >> You're welcome. Okay. If we have nothing
[18:07] » You're welcome. Okay. If we have nothing
[18:07] further, do we have a motion?
[18:11] Uh, I move that we authorize the award
[18:12] of ITB number 2604 to Randall
[18:15] Engineering and Construction LLC in the
[18:16] amount of 187,882.
[18:20] Authorize the standard 10% construction
[18:22] contingency of $18,78.80
[18:25] for a total project authorization of
[18:27] $26,610.80.
[18:30] » Have a second.
[18:31] >> A second.
[18:32] » A second.
[18:32] >> Second.
[18:32] » Second.
[18:32] >> City clerk, would you call the role,
[18:34] » City clerk, would you call the role,
[18:34] please? [clears throat]
[18:35] >> Commissioner Kaggleri?
[18:37] » Commissioner Kaggleri?
[18:37] >> Yes.
[18:37] » Yes.
[18:37] >> Vice Mayor McGee?
[18:38] » Vice Mayor McGee?
[18:38] >> Yes.
[18:39] » Yes.
[18:39] >> Commissioner Gabay? No.
[18:43] » Commissioner Gabay? No.
[18:43] >> Commissioner Dylan.
[18:44] » Commissioner Dylan.
[18:44] >> Yes.
[18:45] » Yes.
[18:45] >> Mayor Brooks.
[18:46] » Mayor Brooks.
[18:46] >> Yes.
[18:47] » Yes.
[18:47] >> The motion carried 4 to1. Next on the
[18:50] » The motion carried 4 to1. Next on the
[18:50] agenda is public hearings. Ordinance
[18:52] 2026-07
[18:55] charter amendments relating to municipal
[18:57] election dates, candidate qualifying
[18:59] periods, term transition provisions, and
[19:02] referendum questions. Second reading and
[19:05] public hearing. And I will hand this to
[19:06] the city attorney.
[19:07] >> Thank you, mayor. I'm going to read this
[19:08] » Thank you, mayor. I'm going to read this
[19:08] ordinance by title only. This is
[19:10] ordinance 2026-07,
[19:12] an ordinance of the city of Mader Beach,
[19:14] Florida, submitting to the electors of
[19:16] the city of Mader Beach, proposed
[19:17] amendments to the city charter relating
[19:19] to the date of municipal elections and
[19:21] candidate qualifying periods amending
[19:23] section 3.3 nomination of board of
[19:26] directors subp paragraph A filing of the
[19:29] city charter to change the candidate
[19:31] qualifying period from December to June
[19:34] amending section 3.4 4 manner of holding
[19:37] elections subp paragraph A of the city
[19:39] charter to change the municipal
[19:40] elections from March to November to
[19:43] coincide with the state general election
[19:45] and providing for the extension of the
[19:47] terms of commissioner district 3 and
[19:50] commissioner district 4 until November
[19:52] 2027
[19:53] and extension of the terms of
[19:55] commissioner district 1 uh commissioner
[19:58] district 2 and mayor commissioner until
[20:00] November 2028
[20:02] amending section 2.2 Two board of
[20:04] commissioners created qualifications,
[20:06] term of office and vacancies. Sub
[20:08] paragraph B, qualifications and term of
[20:11] office of the city charter to provide
[20:13] for certification of the election
[20:15] results and providing for the extension
[20:17] of the terms of commissioner district 3
[20:19] and commissioner district 4 until
[20:21] November 27, 2027 and extension of terms
[20:24] of commissioners district 1,
[20:26] commissioner district 2 and mayor
[20:29] commissioner until November 2028.
[20:32] Amending section 4.8 induction of board
[20:34] of commissioners into office meetings of
[20:37] the city uh charter to provide
[20:39] consistent commencement of terms and
[20:42] installation procedures. Providing for a
[20:45] referendum, providing for ballot
[20:47] language, providing for notice of
[20:49] election, and providing for an effective
[20:51] date. That was the second and final
[20:53] reading of ordinance 2026-07
[20:56] by title only.
[20:59] >> Do we have any public comment?
[21:02] » Do we have any public comment?
[21:02] Commissioners, do you have any questions
[21:03] or comments?
[21:05] >> I just want to say out loud that this is
[21:07] » I just want to say out loud that this is
[21:07] approving that all of us will serve
[21:10] >> several months, maybe five, six months
[21:12] » several months, maybe five, six months
[21:12] more
[21:12] >> extra.
[21:12] » extra.
[21:12] >> Extra.
[21:13] » Extra.
[21:13] >> Correct.
[21:13] » Correct.
[21:13] >> And that's and this is the only time
[21:15] » And that's and this is the only time
[21:15] that that will happen. I'm just saying
[21:17] in future elections. It'll be our
[21:19] standard terms. Just want to say that
[21:20] out loud.
[21:21] >> And it also will save the community
[21:23] » And it also will save the community
[21:23] money. um where now we do our elections
[21:27] in March and there is an added cost to
[21:29] the city to put that election on, we
[21:32] will be able to hold our elections in
[21:34] November when we're already doing other
[21:36] municipal or other elections. So,
[21:39] >> and a lot and a lot of uh voters
[21:41] » and a lot and a lot of uh voters
[21:41] participation, a lot more
[21:43] >> voter participation.
[21:47] » Do we have a motion? I make a motion to
[21:50] pass ordinance 2026-07
[21:54] charter amendments relating to the
[21:56] municipal election dates, candidate
[21:59] candidate qualifying periods, term
[22:02] transition provisions and referendum
[22:04] questions.
[22:06] Second reading public hearing.
[22:10] >> I second.
[22:11] » I second.
[22:11] >> City clerk, would you call the role,
[22:12] » City clerk, would you call the role,
[22:12] please?
[22:14] >> Vice Mayor McGee?
[22:16] » Vice Mayor McGee?
[22:16] >> Yes.
[22:16] » Yes.
[22:16] >> Commissioner Dylan?
[22:17] » Commissioner Dylan?
[22:17] >> Yes. Commissioner Taglerini,
[22:20] » Yes. Commissioner Taglerini,
[22:20] >> yes.
[22:20] » yes.
[22:20] >> Commissioner Gabbay,
[22:21] » Commissioner Gabbay,
[22:21] >> yes.
[22:22] » yes.
[22:22] >> Mayor Brooks,
[22:23] » Mayor Brooks,
[22:23] >> yes.
[22:23] » yes.
[22:23] >> The motion carry five to zero.
[22:26] » The motion carry five to zero.
[22:26] >> Next on the agenda is ordinance 2026-08,
[22:30] » Next on the agenda is ordinance 2026-08,
[22:30] fees and collection procedure manual,
[22:32] first reading and public hearing. City
[22:35] attorney.
[22:36] >> Thank you, mayor. This is a reading of
[22:37] » Thank you, mayor. This is a reading of
[22:37] ordinance 2026-08
[22:39] by title only. Ordinance 2026-08, an
[22:43] ordinance of the city of MadiRaa Beach,
[22:44] Florida, adopting a revised appendix A,
[22:46] fees and collection procedures manual of
[22:48] the code of ordinances of the city of
[22:50] Madiraa Beach, Florida, amending the fee
[22:52] schedules for the fire, marina, parking,
[22:56] recreation, and storm water departments
[22:58] is set forth in exhibit A repealing
[23:00] ordinance 2025-18
[23:03] providing for conflicts, providing for
[23:04] severability, and providing for an
[23:06] effective date. That was the first
[23:07] reading of ordinance 2026-08
[23:09] by title only.
[23:12] >> Do we have any public comment?
[23:15] » Do we have any public comment?
[23:15] Commissioners, do you have any questions
[23:17] or comments?
[23:20] >> I I have one question. Um, Wednesday
[23:24] » I I have one question. Um, Wednesday
[23:24] market,
[23:26] where would that fit
[23:28] in this
[23:30] um category?
[23:38] should be recreation maybe under
[23:40] recreation.
[23:41] >> It is under recreation.
[23:44] » It is under recreation.
[23:44] >> I don't believe that. I believe that um
[23:47] » I don't believe that. I believe that um
[23:47] I can speak on Max's behalf that
[23:49] recreation is going to come back to us
[23:51] with some changes.
[23:53] >> They had not um processed all theirs.
[23:55] » They had not um processed all theirs.
[23:55] So, we're going to approve to provided
[23:58] we vote yes. Um this is the first
[24:00] reading to approve the changes that
[24:02] we've been brought so far. And there
[24:03] will be additional changes that will
[24:05] come from, I believe, community
[24:07] development as well as recreation in a
[24:09] future workshop meeting
[24:12] >> and we'll workshop whatever those
[24:13] » and we'll workshop whatever those
[24:13] changes are.
[24:17] >> I see. I just have a couple of just a
[24:18] » I see. I just have a couple of just a
[24:18] quick concerns or or comments. Um, will
[24:23] we have to approve it annually to
[24:26] continue or will it just go on for as
[24:29] long as they want to?
[24:30] >> Yeah, I can address that. So the fees
[24:33] » Yeah, I can address that. So the fees
[24:33] and collections manual, the the fees in
[24:34] there remain intact unless changed by
[24:38] future ordinance, which would be two
[24:39] readings. Typically, we do this exercise
[24:41] annually. Um but to the mayor's point,
[24:45] we discussed in our workshop the
[24:47] prospect of adding community development
[24:49] permitting fees uh given the state's
[24:52] recent regulatory changes around
[24:54] assessing of permitting of permits uh
[24:58] permit fees and needing that to be more
[25:00] timebased than um as the mechanism. We
[25:04] need a little more time to uh put
[25:07] together a fee schedule on that. So
[25:08] we're delaying that. We do have
[25:10] recreation fees, fee changes in here
[25:14] that are that are in exhibit B. You can
[25:16] see the before and after, but we're also
[25:17] going to be looking at recreation a
[25:19] little deeper as well and look at per
[25:21] program costs a um in a little more
[25:24] depth and ensure that you know the the
[25:27] fees assessed align well with the actual
[25:30] cost of administering the program. So,
[25:33] we could see some future changes on the
[25:35] rec on the recreation side. When exactly
[25:37] that'll take place, not quite sure, but
[25:39] future changes could happen in the
[25:40] horizon. The one that we discussed that
[25:43] you there's pretty much universal
[25:45] support for the ones that we discussed
[25:46] in the workshop with the exception of
[25:48] one in parking on on backing in parking.
[25:51] So rest assured we have removed that. So
[25:53] please back in away as to your heart's
[25:55] content you will not get fined for that.
[25:58] So that has been removed.
[26:00] >> All right. So, so as far as um solid
[26:04] » All right. So, so as far as um solid
[26:04] waste and usage of the uh
[26:09] sanitary and restrooms with the market,
[26:13] Wednesday market, are we charging them?
[26:18] Are they paying us a fee for that?
[26:22] >> I'm not quite sure about the intricacies
[26:25] » I'm not quite sure about the intricacies
[26:25] behind that. Max, do you have some any
[26:27] comments on the cost around Wednesday
[26:30] market?
[26:35] » So, traditionally in the past, the
[26:37] Wednesday market, they would mainly take
[26:38] all their trash with them. Any trash
[26:41] that was in what was uh made, if you
[26:45] will, in the market was just used uh on
[26:47] the trash cans along Madira Way. As for
[26:50] restrooms, the local businesses allowed
[26:52] patrons and the market vendors to use
[26:54] their restrooms. We did not provide any
[26:56] restrooms for them.
[27:00] So, all we charged them in the past was
[27:02] just a street closure fee and then they
[27:04] ran the market for us as a as a service
[27:08] to the community.
[27:09] >> Okay.
[27:10] » Okay.
[27:10] >> I'm sure there's um cleaning
[27:12] » I'm sure there's um cleaning
[27:12] [clears throat] for the restrooms and
[27:14] things in that nature would would would
[27:16] who would clean up the restrooms?
[27:18] >> None of the businesses on Madira Way
[27:20] » None of the businesses on Madira Way
[27:20] like the saltwater hippie beach bar and
[27:21] shop. They were the ones who mainly in
[27:23] Forbotus would allow patrons and and
[27:25] people to come use their restrooms in
[27:27] their facilities in their in their
[27:29] businesses. They never charged us any
[27:31] fees for that. They were just happy to
[27:33] have a market in front of their business
[27:35] every Wednesday.
[27:36] >> Yeah. Thank you.
[27:38] » Yeah. Thank you.
[27:38] >> With no any addition,
[27:39] » With no any addition,
[27:39] >> I just have a couple questions for It's
[27:41] » I just have a couple questions for It's
[27:41] both recreation. Sorry, Max. This splash
[27:44] pad and weddings. That's what I'm asking
[27:45] about. And the splash pad, uh, it looks
[27:47] like there's a fee for the splash pad,
[27:48] but that's only if they want to reserve.
[27:50] That's that's if just you say you want
[27:51] to have your birthday party at the
[27:52] splash pad. That's what that is. It's
[27:54] just you you have the splash pad
[27:56] reserved exclusively for you during that
[27:58] during that time.
[27:58] >> But otherwise, anybody can
[27:59] » But otherwise, anybody can
[27:59] >> otherwise anybody is welcome to use the
[28:01] » otherwise anybody is welcome to use the
[28:01] splash pad for free. That is great.
[28:02] >> The other the other one was about
[28:03] » The other the other one was about
[28:03] weddings on the beach. Uh so it looks
[28:06] like even weddings under 50 have to get
[28:09] a permit and and does that happen
[28:10] regularly with tie the knot and
[28:12] >> Yes, that does happen regularly with tie
[28:14] » Yes, that does happen regularly with tie
[28:14] with all the different beach wedding uh
[28:16] with all the wedding planning companies
[28:17] we have.
[28:18] >> Okay. all up and down the coast there.
[28:19] » Okay. all up and down the coast there.
[28:19] >> And just just because we the the
[28:21] » And just just because we the the
[28:21] residents that live on the other right
[28:23] there at the beach uh across from Tide
[28:25] the Knots and West, they have concerns
[28:28] because often times the the problem is
[28:31] that they don't hold the weddings in
[28:33] front of the city property. They hold
[28:35] the weddings in front of their house.
[28:37] And one in particular has repairarian
[28:39] rights to the water. And anyway, I just
[28:42] I just wanted to make sure they they're
[28:44] supposed to get a permit even for 50 or
[28:46] less. And they have a fee attached.
[28:47] Correct. If you're if you're setting up
[28:49] an an arch or or any structure on the
[28:51] beach, even if you're just renewing your
[28:52] vows with with 10 people, we still
[28:54] require a beach wedding permit.
[28:56] >> And am I correct that they're supposed
[28:57] » And am I correct that they're supposed
[28:57] to stay in front of the
[28:58] >> They are supposed to stay right there
[28:59] » They are supposed to stay right there
[28:59] pretty much. And like if you're
[29:01] referring to where uh uh off the top of
[29:03] my head, what I
[29:04] >> Bob?
[29:04] » Bob?
[29:04] >> Uh yeah, it's at 134th. Um we we we
[29:08] » Uh yeah, it's at 134th. Um we we we
[29:08] instruct them to set up in front of the
[29:11] walkway. Yeah, that's pretty much
[29:13] >> making sure that that's clear because
[29:15] » making sure that that's clear because
[29:15] he's had a couple runins and he called
[29:16] me and I didn't know what to do. They
[29:18] were gone.
[29:19] >> Some of those weddings do tend to get
[29:20] » Some of those weddings do tend to get
[29:20] kind of large there. So we as as we try
[29:22] to work with all the different wedding
[29:23] planners and organizations that do take
[29:25] Yeah.
[29:25] >> all the permits, we try to stress that
[29:28] » all the permits, we try to stress that
[29:28] set your wedding up right in front of
[29:29] the beach access on city property.
[29:30] >> Great. Thank you. That's all I had.
[29:32] » Great. Thank you. That's all I had.
[29:32] Thank you, Max.
[29:33] >> You're welcome.
[29:34] » You're welcome.
[29:34] >> Do we have a motion?
[29:40] I make a motion to pass uh ordinance
[29:43] 2026-08
[29:44] fees and collection procedure.
[29:47] >> Do we have a second?
[29:49] » Do we have a second?
[29:49] >> Second.
[29:49] » Second.
[29:50] >> City clerk, would you call the role,
[29:51] » City clerk, would you call the role,
[29:51] please?
[29:52] >> Vice Mayor McGee?
[29:54] » Vice Mayor McGee?
[29:54] >> Yes.
[29:54] » Yes.
[29:54] >> Commissioner Dylan?
[29:55] » Commissioner Dylan?
[29:55] >> Yes.
[29:56] » Yes.
[29:56] >> Commissioner Gabay?
[29:57] » Commissioner Gabay?
[29:57] >> Yes.
[29:58] » Yes.
[29:58] >> Commissioner [clears throat] Taglerini?
[29:59] » Commissioner [clears throat] Taglerini?
[30:00] >> Yes.
[30:00] » Yes.
[30:00] >> Mayor Brooks?
[30:01] » Mayor Brooks?
[30:01] >> Yes.
[30:02] » Yes.
[30:02] >> The motion carried 5 to zero. Next on
[30:04] » The motion carried 5 to zero. Next on
[30:04] the agenda is ordinance 2026-09
[30:08] non-conformances and rebuilding
[30:10] regulations first reading and public
[30:12] hearing. City attorney.
[30:14] >> Thank you mayor. This is ordinance
[30:15] » Thank you mayor. This is ordinance
[30:15] 2026-09, an ordinance of the city of
[30:17] Madera Beach, Florida, amending chapter
[30:19] 110 zoning, article 3, non-conformances
[30:22] of the city's land development
[30:23] regulations to clarify regulations
[30:26] governing non-conforming lots, uses,
[30:28] structures, and density. To revise
[30:30] rebuilding and redevelopment standards
[30:32] following a catastrophic loss, extending
[30:35] the deadline for certain repairs related
[30:37] to the 2024 hurricanes.
[30:39] to wave the business tax receipt
[30:42] requirement for structures that were
[30:43] damaged during the 2024 hurricanes
[30:47] provided that certain conditions are met
[30:49] providing for conflict severability
[30:51] codification and an effective date. That
[30:54] was the first reading of ordinance
[30:55] 2026-09
[30:57] by title only.
[30:58] >> Do we have any public comment?
[31:01] » Do we have any public comment?
[31:01] Commissioners, any questions or
[31:02] comments?
[31:05] >> I've got many. after my drive around
[31:08] » I've got many. after my drive around
[31:08] with the um [clears throat] lovely
[31:11] people that doing the code enforcement.
[31:13] Um there's so many places that have just
[31:17] been vacated.
[31:19] Excuse [clears throat] me. And I've
[31:20] asked the city to do a little bit of um
[31:23] homework where we extended this 6 months
[31:26] already and to extend it another year. I
[31:30] was kind of leerary about it. However, I
[31:32] was told that we should talk to our
[31:35] lawyer to see if there's something about
[31:38] the section 180 or one of the laws that
[31:42] are going to be passed as to whether or
[31:44] not we can not do this. Uh I'd even ask
[31:48] so much as to the extent of how many
[31:51] people are doing anything and by kicking
[31:54] this can down the road are we doing any
[31:56] good?
[32:01] So, mayor, can I just address that? I
[32:03] think that uh Commissioner Dylan is
[32:05] referring to Senate Bill 180. There's a
[32:08] requirement under that Senate Bill 180
[32:10] that we cannot adopt regulations that
[32:14] are more restrictive than what we
[32:16] currently have for uh the period of time
[32:19] listed in the in in the law. But these
[32:22] are making it less restrictive. And so,
[32:25] the Senate Bill 180 would not apply. it
[32:28] it doesn't prohibit us from adopting
[32:30] this ordinance because it's less
[32:32] restrictive.
[32:34] So, in other words, you're letting more
[32:36] things happen than what the code
[32:38] currently allows.
[32:40] So,
[32:40] >> and and one thing I think that comes
[32:42] » and and one thing I think that comes
[32:42] into play is uh we talked about if and I
[32:48] emailed attorney Tras a while ago to
[32:50] confirm well if the deadline passes say
[32:54] we didn't extend this deadline
[32:56] and there's properties that are
[32:59] prefirmed. So, they're not elevated,
[33:01] they're non-conforming, they haven't
[33:02] pulled the permits. Can we take some
[33:06] code enforcement action to like force
[33:08] demolition?
[33:09] And the attorney's interpretation of the
[33:12] current code is no. There would need to
[33:14] be some kind of other violation of the
[33:17] code, whether it's a nuisance or they're
[33:19] caught doing work without a permit. So
[33:22] essentially what that means is if the
[33:24] deadline wasn't extended
[33:27] then it would just result in anyone that
[33:30] submits a remodel permit after the
[33:32] deadline the remodel permit would just
[33:34] get denied and then it would potentially
[33:38] have the opposite effect that we're
[33:39] wanting and the property would sit
[33:41] abandoned for even longer because it
[33:43] takes longer to get new builds plans
[33:46] prepared than a remodel.
[33:50] » Okay. So with that in mind then excuse
[33:53] me do we just kick it down the road 6
[33:55] months as opposed to a year I mean and
[33:58] I'm asking you people for your advice.
[34:01] >> So the thing with a year is so Senate
[34:03] » So the thing with a year is so Senate
[34:03] Bill 180 lapses in about a year. So
[34:07] potentially if we extend the deadline
[34:11] another year like we're proposing here,
[34:13] then possibly we can by then work
[34:17] another ordinance that proposes
[34:19] something more restrictive where maybe
[34:21] we do force demolition if that's a
[34:24] route. Um and and go that option once
[34:28] both Senate Bill 180 and the new
[34:30] deadline passes.
[34:33] Well, and I guess my my main concern was
[34:36] all the vacant properties. There's so
[34:39] many that, you know, and it's easy to
[34:41] tell because the post office has put the
[34:43] blue tape over their mailboxes. So, as
[34:46] to whether or not all of those homes are
[34:48] just sitting vacant, you know,
[34:50] rodentinfested.
[34:52] And that's kind of my concern. and many
[34:56] of the other people that were here in
[34:58] the original discussion, the real estate
[35:01] people, if you're trying to sell your
[35:03] house and you're going by all these
[35:05] places that are abandoned or look to be
[35:08] abandoned, it's not a very good look.
[35:11] So, that was my concern about kicking it
[35:13] down the line.
[35:15] I think that the better conversation for
[35:17] us would be to add to our next workshop
[35:20] code enforcement because the issue you
[35:25] the issue of the abandoned homes and the
[35:28] overgrown grass we've talked about we've
[35:31] been talking about for over two years
[35:32] now uh or almost two years now over two
[35:36] years now because we're in August about
[35:39] the houses and the the issues and code
[35:42] enforcement and getting our deputies
[35:45] um a clear definition of what it is
[35:48] we're looking for that they are
[35:49] responsible for doing and then a better
[35:53] definition for our our code enforcers
[35:55] that are internal for what we're looking
[35:58] for for the community and having some
[36:00] sort of reporting system to be able to
[36:03] at least once a month provide to the
[36:04] community how many properties have been
[36:06] code enforced, what happened with them,
[36:09] where they're at, not the specific
[36:11] properties, but the number. and what
[36:13] we're doing and also to educate the
[36:15] community and ourselves as well on what
[36:18] that looks like. What can we do? What
[36:20] can we not do? Part of this conversation
[36:23] was there are many people who own
[36:26] properties in MadiRaa who are still
[36:28] waiting to find out if they're going to
[36:30] be approved. There are many people who
[36:32] are still waiting on their insurance to
[36:34] pay. And so by not extending it for
[36:39] another year, then we're telling them
[36:42] that, you know what, it doesn't matter.
[36:44] Time's up for you. You're done. But we
[36:46] still can't make them do anything, you
[36:48] know? So, we're giving them a year so
[36:50] that they can breathe. They have the
[36:52] opportunity um to be able to find out
[36:55] whether or not they're going to qualify
[36:56] for a program that's going to help them
[36:58] with whatever the program is. There's
[37:00] there's several different programs out
[37:02] there people have applied for. And then
[37:04] in the meantime, I think it would be
[37:06] best for us in my view that we our next
[37:10] workshop doesn't have very much on it
[37:12] and that we spend some really good hard
[37:14] conversation on what our ordinances says
[37:18] we can do with code enforcement and give
[37:21] the direction to the people who are
[37:23] responsible for enforcing it in what we
[37:25] want to see done and that would make a
[37:28] difference. I believe
[37:29] >> I completely agree but I couldn't talk
[37:31] » I completely agree but I couldn't talk
[37:31] to you about that. So, it's just like I
[37:33] had to bring this up however I could to
[37:37] get the ball rolling. And that's where
[37:39] um exactly, you know, and as to how
[37:42] exactly we can do this, but by working
[37:44] with our staff, it's it's phenomenal.
[37:47] And that's what I thought, you know, I
[37:49] was completely amazed that they go
[37:52] around generally speaking twice a day
[37:55] doing code enforcement and doing all
[37:58] this stuff. And I was like, wow. you
[38:00] know where I I didn't think
[38:02] [clears throat] that it was done that
[38:04] much and that's what I was like okay
[38:06] this should be done well it's already
[38:08] being done and it's just I didn't see it
[38:11] I mean you know but it's it's being done
[38:14] and to do continue you know to help not
[38:18] to hinder our residents but to help them
[38:21] but yet give them that nudge okay so
[38:23] like guys
[38:25] you got to maintain your properties I
[38:28] mean you know and that's just like I
[38:29] understand that, you know, rodents, I
[38:33] mean, I've got many friends that are
[38:34] just like, you know, they they got
[38:37] rodents now and it's it's bad, you know.
[38:39] So, and that's what understanding, but
[38:42] to have more teeth in our ordinances is
[38:46] what I'm looking for. So we can't add we
[38:49] can't add teeth right now. But what we
[38:50] can do is understand the ordinance and
[38:54] give the expectation of the commission
[38:56] to those that are in charge of enforcing
[38:59] it and do it that way. And at the same
[39:02] time it will educate the community. I
[39:04] drove the um city this weekend and
[39:12] my personal view not as the mayor but as
[39:14] an Marie Brooks who lives in Mader
[39:16] Beach. If I lived on XYZ Street and
[39:18] there were three abandoned homes and
[39:20] they weren't cutting their grass, I
[39:22] would cut their grass.
[39:24] That's just me. And I know that there
[39:27] are trespass.
[39:28] >> No. Well, they're not living there. They
[39:30] » No. Well, they're not living there. They
[39:30] don't care.
[39:31] >> And there are I know from conversations
[39:35] » And there are I know from conversations
[39:35] with the community that there are many
[39:38] people in the city who live on streets
[39:40] where there are abandoned homes or homes
[39:42] where the people haven't made up their
[39:44] mind what they're going to do. And when
[39:46] their lawn service comes, the lawn
[39:49] service cuts the neighbor's yard in.
[39:50] >> Well, good for you in that condo. I
[39:52] » Well, good for you in that condo. I
[39:52] spent two hours today mowing mine.
[39:54] >> I'm I'm saying that there are so that I
[39:57] » I'm I'm saying that there are so that I
[39:57] mean, the idea wasn't my idea. It came
[39:59] from a resident who said they listened
[40:01] to someone come and and make comments
[40:04] about overgrown grass. And I was
[40:06] someplace one day and a resident came
[40:08] over and said to me, I watched that on
[40:10] the meeting and let me tell you how we
[40:12] do it on our street. We cut the grass.
[40:15] That's not an option for everybody. I'm
[40:16] just saying so I think that we workshop
[40:18] this, we can have a conversation and
[40:20] maybe we can come up with ideas that
[40:21] would be helpful for the community and
[40:23] for all of us. Commissioner,
[40:24] >> so to go further with this, I went over
[40:27] » so to go further with this, I went over
[40:27] the the Pine Hills County Sheriff's uh
[40:30] contract that we are going to vote on.
[40:32] It's we have to have either approve it
[40:34] or not approve it by October 1st. Uh and
[40:37] a lot of what we're talking about we're
[40:39] already has it's already contracted.
[40:42] What I would like is during our next
[40:43] workshop to have a representative from
[40:45] Pineelis County Sheriff's who is
[40:47] responsible for this contract to make
[40:49] sure that the wording is uh clear and
[40:52] what our expectations are. Uh and and I
[40:55] I I would like to see a report on a
[40:57] regular basis for these non-emergency
[40:59] code violations, these short-term
[41:01] rentals, these these what some people
[41:03] call a nuisance. I think they're more
[41:04] than nuisance. So, I I I if that's
[41:08] possible, uh Mr. Mr. Hellfrick, I'd love
[41:10] to see someone representing the
[41:12] sheriff's department at our workshop
[41:14] when we're talking about this contract.
[41:16] >> Yeah, I I've requested that. I I'll get
[41:18] » Yeah, I I've requested that. I I'll get
[41:18] with them uh this week and make sure
[41:20] that's lined up.
[41:21] >> Great. Thanks. And then I had one more
[41:23] » Great. Thanks. And then I had one more
[41:23] question. Uh the 2024 hurricane damage
[41:26] status. I can Can you It says QC.
[41:30] There's just a couple things that I
[41:31] understand. I'd like to understand QC
[41:33] needed. That's a big chunk of
[41:35] properties.
[41:35] >> Yeah, I can explain that. So, let me go
[41:37] » Yeah, I can explain that. So, let me go
[41:37] to the pie chart.
[41:39] So this comes from 4Runner. So basically
[41:42] the way we're tracking
[41:44] every property to see if they got a
[41:46] permit or not is through these statuses
[41:49] and the QC needed one is means that we
[41:53] don't know for sure. It looks like
[41:55] that's most of them, but that's because
[41:57] it's a lot of condo parcels. Like all
[41:59] the condo buildings have hundreds of
[42:02] parcel IDs, so it's grouping them all
[42:04] there.
[42:04] >> But what is QC? Uh that's just the code
[42:07] » But what is QC? Uh that's just the code
[42:07] name that we gave it like quality
[42:09] control check needed like
[42:10] >> it's the definition would be those
[42:12] » it's the definition would be those
[42:12] places that they haven't submitted a
[42:15] permit request they haven't done any
[42:17] work they're just
[42:18] >> so let me run through the statuses real
[42:20] » so let me run through the statuses real
[42:20] quick so QC needed basically is it's
[42:25] built so anything that was built before
[42:27] 1975
[42:29] and doesn't have a permit we know with
[42:32] almost 100% certainty is going to need a
[42:35] permit. So, it's pre-firm and there's no
[42:39] permit. So, that those go on the no
[42:40] permit status. Then, just because it was
[42:44] built after 1975 doesn't necessarily
[42:47] mean they don't need a permit. So, we
[42:49] didn't want to just block those out
[42:52] completely. So, those anything built
[42:55] after 1975 was put in the QC needed
[42:57] status for now, which is just like we'll
[42:59] figure it out later. And then anything
[43:03] that's on the demolished/substantially
[43:06] improved means they got either a full
[43:09] structure demo permit or a new build
[43:12] permit or an elevate permit since the
[43:14] hurricane. Anything that's on the owner
[43:17] and communication status means they're
[43:20] really they don't have a permit, but
[43:22] they have they're working with us in
[43:24] some way. Either we've logged like a
[43:26] conversation with the owner. They're
[43:27] like waiting for Elevate Florida. Maybe
[43:29] they have a permit under review. Some of
[43:32] those and then the postfirm no damage is
[43:36] has the least because those are the ones
[43:37] that are mostly QC needed. those
[43:40] anything that's on postfirm or no damage
[43:42] means that we've manually checked to see
[43:47] that it's either an elevated house so we
[43:50] don't have to expect a permit from them
[43:51] or if it's not an elevated house we have
[43:54] substantial evidence that we can produce
[43:55] to FEMA when we get audited on why we
[43:58] didn't require a permit on that parcel
[43:59] either through pictures usually pictures
[44:02] showing that they didn't get any damage
[44:04] like in some uh unusual situations like
[44:07] in the high side of Lilian five. A lot
[44:10] of properties are pre-firm and they
[44:12] still didn't get much damage. But
[44:14] technically, our ordinance requires any
[44:16] repairs need a permit. So, by default,
[44:18] it would go in one of those statuses.
[44:20] >> And I'm sorry, I missed I guess I missed
[44:22] » And I'm sorry, I missed I guess I missed
[44:22] what you said. What what defines that
[44:24] gray area, the no permit.
[44:26] >> The no permit, those are the ones that
[44:28] » The no permit, those are the ones that
[44:28] were built before 1975. So, we know it's
[44:32] prefirm. And they didn't they didn't get
[44:36] either a remodel, elevation, new builds,
[44:38] or full demo permit since Alen,
[44:41] >> but you see that work was done. Is that
[44:42] » but you see that work was done. Is that
[44:42] what you're saying?
[44:43] >> No, not necessarily. We just we have so
[44:45] » No, not necessarily. We just we have so
[44:45] we have data from tidal basin that shows
[44:48] the water level across the community and
[44:52] we know that obviously every property
[44:55] that's prefer was submerged in water. So
[44:58] unless and when FEMA comes to audit the
[45:01] city, they're going to want
[45:02] documentation on why this pre-firm
[45:05] structure is still sitting here with no
[45:08] permit. So we just put it in the no
[45:10] permit status to say like we we need
[45:13] some kind of documentation whether a
[45:14] permit or something.
[45:17] >> Okay. Seems it seems like there's a
[45:19] » Okay. Seems it seems like there's a
[45:19] little bit of overlap, but I think I
[45:20] have a better grasp of that. Thank you.
[45:22] >> Yeah, the data the data is a little
[45:24] » Yeah, the data the data is a little
[45:24] rough and what is what is skewing it is
[45:26] the condominium. So this is kind of a
[45:28] rough blush at the data. Um and this
[45:30] wasn't being captured real time during
[45:32] the storm, right? This was all post
[45:33] storm. We we got 4Runner, then we were
[45:35] able to back in data into it. So it's
[45:38] been a a lot of heavy lift. So it does
[45:40] need to be cleaned up some. So the the
[45:41] data is a little misleading because it
[45:43] is picking up the condo parcels. But
[45:45] we're going to work with 4Runner to
[45:46] start separating that data out so that
[45:48] it doesn't throw off the numbers like
[45:49] >> but it says updated July 2026. So this
[45:52] » but it says updated July 2026. So this
[45:52] is where we are. So we just created this
[45:55] chart like I know I know you guys wanted
[45:57] some numbers so I wanted to give you
[45:59] something. This is the best that I that
[46:01] I can give you some [clears throat] kind
[46:03] of data to show the properties. So
[46:06] that's this is our first run of the of
[46:09] the data with 4Runner tracking it. They
[46:12] actually just released this feature to
[46:13] to create a pie chart like a couple
[46:15] month like a couple weeks ago.
[46:17] >> Thank you. This is very helpful. So
[46:19] » Thank you. This is very helpful. So
[46:19] that's what the 5261
[46:23] numbers that you've got there. Uh that's
[46:26] the total of those. Um so that's all
[46:32] how did that's all
[46:33] >> that's all the parial IDs in Madura.
[46:35] » that's all the parial IDs in Madura.
[46:36] >> So but of which like you said 100 could
[46:38] » So but of which like you said 100 could
[46:38] be in one condo.
[46:39] >> Yeah. [clears throat] Correct. Because
[46:40] » Yeah. [clears throat] Correct. Because
[46:40] each condo is it has its own paral ID.
[46:45] >> Okay. Thank you.
[46:47] » Okay. Thank you.
[46:47] Well, I would also like to add to that
[46:50] workshop the uh the abandoned swimming
[46:53] pools that uh the residents that have
[46:57] reached out to me and my district.
[46:59] >> Let's wait and do that when we get to
[47:01] » Let's wait and do that when we get to
[47:01] the agenda setting.
[47:03] >> Okay.
[47:03] » Okay.
[47:03] >> Adding.
[47:06] » Adding.
[47:06] >> All right.
[47:08] » All right.
[47:08] >> Well, I mean, we're talking specifically
[47:10] » Well, I mean, we're talking specifically
[47:10] about this. So, we're going to add
[47:11] >> the next workshop is
[47:13] » the next workshop is
[47:13] >> when we get to agenda setting,
[47:16] » when we get to agenda setting,
[47:16] we can add it then.
[47:18] >> Sound good?
[47:21] » Sound good?
[47:21] >> Do we have a motion?
[47:28] » Madame Mayor, I would like to adopt
[47:30] ordinance 2026-09,
[47:33] nonconformances and rebuilding
[47:35] regulations.
[47:38] >> Do we have a second?
[47:38] » Do we have a second?
[47:38] >> Second. City clerk, would you call the
[47:40] » Second. City clerk, would you call the
[47:40] role, please?
[47:43] >> Commissioner Gabbay.
[47:44] » Commissioner Gabbay.
[47:44] >> Yes.
[47:44] » Yes.
[47:44] >> Commissioner Mcan?
[47:46] » Commissioner Mcan?
[47:46] >> Yes.
[47:48] » Yes.
[47:48] >> Commissioner Taglerini?
[47:49] » Commissioner Taglerini?
[47:49] >> Yes.
[47:50] » Yes.
[47:50] >> Commissioner Dylan?
[47:51] » Commissioner Dylan?
[47:51] >> Yes.
[47:52] » Yes.
[47:52] >> Mayor Brooks?
[47:54] » Mayor Brooks?
[47:54] >> Yes.
[47:55] » Yes.
[47:55] >> The motion carried 5 to zero. Next on
[47:57] » The motion carried 5 to zero. Next on
[47:57] the agenda is ABP2026-01,
[48:01] Florida Fisherman, Inc. And I will hand
[48:03] this to the city attorney.
[48:04] >> Thank you, mayor. [clears throat] The
[48:05] » Thank you, mayor. [clears throat] The
[48:05] next two items on your agenda are both
[48:07] quasi judicial. There's a process that
[48:09] as you know that we go through. I'm just
[48:10] going to lead you through that process.
[48:12] So first of all um on the first one um I
[48:16] need to give you the summary of the
[48:17] application. Uh, this application is
[48:20] requesting authorization from the board
[48:22] of commissioners for the approval of a 2
[48:24] cop alcoholic beverage license for the
[48:26] sale of beer and wine by the drink or in
[48:29] sealed containers for consumption at the
[48:31] vessel located at 112 Boardwalk Place,
[48:34] 124 Boardwalk Place, 140 Boardwalk Place
[48:37] here in MadiRaa Beach.
[48:40] The standards that need to be applied
[48:42] are those standards set forth in section
[48:44] 110-532 of the code. I'm going to read
[48:47] them. Uh when considering the alcoholic
[48:50] beverage application, the board of
[48:51] commissioners shall consider the
[48:52] following factors. Number one, the
[48:54] extent to which the location and the
[48:56] extent to which the proposed alcoholic
[48:58] beverage request will adversely affect
[49:00] the character of the existing
[49:02] neighborhood. Number two, the extent to
[49:04] which traffic generated as a result of
[49:06] the location of the proposed al
[49:08] alcoholic beverage request will create
[49:10] congestion or present a safety hazard.
[49:13] Number three, whether or not the
[49:15] proposed use is compatible with the
[49:17] particular location for which is which
[49:19] it is proposed. Number four, whether or
[49:22] not the proposed use will adversely
[49:24] affect the public safety. And number
[49:27] five, no application for review under
[49:30] this section shall be considered until
[49:32] the applicant is paid in full any
[49:35] outstanding charges, fees, interest,
[49:36] fines, or penalties owed by the
[49:38] applicant to the city under any section
[49:41] of the code.
[49:43] Uh the burden of proof in this case is
[49:45] set forth in section 2-10A of your um
[49:49] code of ordinances and it reads as
[49:51] follows. The applicant shall have the
[49:53] burden of proof at the hearing to show
[49:55] by a greater weight of the evidence that
[49:56] the application is consistent with the
[49:59] city's comprehensive plan and complies
[50:01] with all procedural requirements of law.
[50:04] Conditions may be suggested by the
[50:06] applicant, the city or any party or may
[50:08] be imposed by the board which are
[50:10] intended to assure consistency.
[50:14] The parties in this case are the
[50:16] applicant Florida Fisherman Inc. and the
[50:18] property owner is JE Investments LLC.
[50:23] There have been no notices of intent to
[50:25] become affected parties. So, we won't be
[50:27] adding anybody else. Uh the order of the
[50:30] presentation I would propose would be
[50:32] the city present its um staff report
[50:35] first followed by the applicant. I need
[50:38] to go ahead and read the quasi judicial
[50:40] procedures that you need to follow
[50:42] today.
[50:43] This is a quasa judicial proceeding
[50:45] where the board of commissioners acts in
[50:46] a quasa judicial rather than a
[50:48] legislative capacity. At this hearing,
[50:50] it's not the board's function to make
[50:52] law, but rather to apply law that has
[50:54] already been established. In this
[50:56] hearing, the board is required by law to
[50:58] make findings of fact based upon
[50:59] evidence presented at the hearing and
[51:01] apply those findings of fact to
[51:03] previously established criteria
[51:04] contained in the code of ordinances and
[51:06] in order in order to make a legal
[51:08] decision regarding the application
[51:09] before it. The board may may only
[51:12] consider evidence at the hearing that
[51:14] the law considers competent,
[51:15] substantial, and relevant to the issues.
[51:18] If the competent, substantial, and
[51:20] relevant evidence of the hearing
[51:21] demonstrates the applicant has met the
[51:23] criteria established in the code of
[51:24] ordinances, then the board is required
[51:26] by law to find in favor of the
[51:28] applicant. By the same token, if the
[51:30] competent substantial and relevant
[51:32] evidence of the hearing demonstrates the
[51:33] applicant has failed to meet the
[51:34] criteria established in the code of
[51:36] ordinances, then the board is required
[51:38] by law to find against the applicant.
[51:41] At this point, I need to ask each and
[51:43] every commissioner whether or not they
[51:45] need to report any ex exparte
[51:47] communications with regard to this
[51:49] application.
[51:51] No, I'm seeing no any conflicts of
[51:53] interest that any of the board members
[51:55] of the commission need to express at
[51:57] this time. Okay. All right. At this
[51:59] point, I need to swear in any witnesses
[52:01] on this particular agenda item. So,
[52:03] anyone that's going to speak on this
[52:04] agenda item, if you could stand up,
[52:06] raise your right hand, or be sworn under
[52:07] oath. So, the applicant's not here,
[52:10] Andrew.
[52:12] >> Uh, I I'm I mean, they know the date of
[52:14] » Uh, I I'm I mean, they know the date of
[52:14] the hearing, so All right. So, do you
[52:17] swear that you if you swear the
[52:19] testimony you're about to give is going
[52:20] to be the truth, the whole truth, and
[52:21] nothing but the truth?
[52:22] >> Okay. All right. We're going to need you
[52:24] » Okay. All right. We're going to need you
[52:24] to get you in front of that microphone,
[52:25] Andrew, so we can hear your voice.
[52:27] >> Okay. No problem.
[52:28] » Okay. No problem.
[52:28] >> All right. You ready to make your
[52:30] » All right. You ready to make your
[52:30] presentation?
[52:31] >> Yes, sir.
[52:31] » Yes, sir.
[52:32] >> Okay.
[52:32] » Okay.
[52:32] >> So, so both of these are um these
[52:34] » So, so both of these are um these
[52:34] applications are pretty similar. Um but
[52:37] for alcohol permits there um when it's
[52:41] related to a vessel, it has to be for
[52:43] each ship. So that's why there's two of
[52:44] them. Um so this one is for a dolphin
[52:48] quest 2. Um so pursuant to land
[52:51] development code article
[52:54] let's see division six alcohol beverages
[52:57] the applicant for AP 202601 is
[53:00] requesting authorization from the board
[53:01] of commissioners for approval of a 2COP
[53:04] alcoholic beverage license for the sale
[53:05] of beer and wine by the the drink or in
[53:08] seal containers for consumption at the
[53:10] vessel located at 112 Boardwalk Place
[53:12] 124 Boardwalk Place and 140 Boardwalk
[53:15] Place Madira Beach Florida. This
[53:17] establishment is in the C1 Johns Pass
[53:19] Village Activity Center zoning district
[53:21] and the boardwalk character district.
[53:22] The future land use designation for the
[53:24] property's activity center. Pursuant to
[53:26] section 110 539, the notice of public
[53:29] hearing has been properly sent to all
[53:31] property owners within 300 ft of the
[53:33] subject property 15 days before the
[53:35] scheduled consideration by the board of
[53:37] commissioners. Such notice has also been
[53:38] posted on the subject property at the
[53:41] Gulf Beach's public library, city hall,
[53:43] and the city of Madira Beach website.
[53:45] The public notice, mailing address, and
[53:47] posting pictures are included in the
[53:48] agenda packet.
[53:50] Um, when considering the alcoholic
[53:53] beverage license application, the board
[53:54] commissioner shall consider the
[53:55] following factors. To the extent to
[53:57] which the location and extent to which
[54:00] the proposed alcoholic beverage requests
[54:02] will adversely
[54:05] affect the character of the existing
[54:06] neighborhood. The proposed alcohol
[54:07] beverage license is in the boardwalk
[54:09] character district of the John's Pest
[54:11] Village Activity Center. The boardwalk
[54:12] character district supports various
[54:14] commercial uses that are oriented
[54:15] towards tourism and maintaining the the
[54:18] fishing village character of John's Pest
[54:20] Village. Various businesses in the
[54:22] boardwalk character district serve
[54:23] alcoholic beverages. Serving alcoholic
[54:25] beverages on charter boats would not
[54:27] adversely affect the character of the
[54:28] neighborhood. The extent to which
[54:30] traffic generated as a result of the
[54:32] location of the proposed alcoholic
[54:34] beverage request will create congestion
[54:35] or present a safety hazard. Uh the
[54:38] affluent listed three parking spaces,
[54:40] one handicap parking space and five
[54:41] bicycle stalls up to which are worth up
[54:45] to three uh parking creds. This property
[54:46] is in the John's Pest Village special
[54:49] parking area which allows for the
[54:51] reduction of the required off- streetet
[54:54] parking by 50%. Since the property is
[54:56] located in a special parking area, each
[54:59] charbo boat would require 1.5 spaces.
[55:01] Additional parking is available in a
[55:03] privately owned parking garage across
[55:05] the street, but the existing on-site
[55:07] parking is considered sufficient. It is
[55:09] not foreseen that serving beer and wine
[55:11] on an existing showboat service would
[55:13] create additional congestion or present
[55:15] a safety hazard. Whether or not the
[55:18] proposed use is compatible with the
[55:19] particular location for which it is
[55:21] proposed, applicant the applicant says
[55:23] that the license would be for selling
[55:25] beer and wine and prepackaged drinks on
[55:27] a pleasure cruise vessel used for
[55:29] dolphin watches and sunset tours. When
[55:31] the alcohol is not being sold on the
[55:33] charter boats, that alcohol will be
[55:34] stored on property. The proposed use of
[55:37] selling alcohol beverages on a charter
[55:38] boat is compatible with the this
[55:40] particular location. Whether or not the
[55:42] proposed use will adversely affect
[55:44] public safety. Serving beer and wine on
[55:46] a churbo boat would not uh adversely
[55:49] affect public safety. The proposed
[55:50] alcoholic beverage license would be
[55:51] replacing an existing alcohol alcoholic
[55:54] beverage license because of a change in
[55:56] ownership. The vessels are licensed and
[55:58] registered with the US Coast Guard. The
[56:00] dock where the vessel is located is more
[56:01] than 500 ft away from any established
[56:04] church, synagogue, temple, or place of
[56:06] religious worship, public or private
[56:07] school operating for the instruction of
[56:10] minors or youth recreation center. No
[56:12] application for the review under this
[56:14] section shall be considered until the
[56:15] applicant has paid in full any
[56:18] outstanding charges, fees, interest,
[56:19] fines, or penalties owed by the
[56:21] applicant to the city under any sections
[56:22] of the code.
[56:24] applicant has no outstanding fines or
[56:28] penalties owed to the city under any
[56:29] section of the code. And uh the city
[56:32] staff recommends the approval of ABP
[56:34] 2026-01.
[56:36] Attached are the uh local application
[56:39] and support materials and the public
[56:41] notice mailing and posting packet which
[56:43] shows that we we mailed out and posted
[56:46] the the public notice in the required
[56:48] time.
[56:50] >> Okay. You're asking the city receive
[56:52] » Okay. You're asking the city receive
[56:52] into evidence your staff report, Mr.
[56:54] Morris?
[56:55] >> Yes, sir.
[56:55] » Yes, sir.
[56:56] >> Okay. Any questions of Mr. Morris?
[56:59] » Okay. Any questions of Mr. Morris?
[56:59] I'm not seeing any. Again, is the
[57:01] applicant for this application here in
[57:02] the audience?
[57:05] >> All right. Mayor, there's no one here.
[57:07] » All right. Mayor, there's no one here.
[57:07] Anyone in the public want to speak on
[57:08] this agenda item?
[57:11] It's back to the commission then for
[57:12] consideration and approval.
[57:15] >> Any questions or comments?
[57:18] » Any questions or comments?
[57:18] >> I've got one. I was on that ship, the
[57:21] » I've got one. I was on that ship, the
[57:21] pirate ship many years ago and they
[57:22] serve beer. So now they're selling it.
[57:25] Is that what the difference is? Or is it
[57:28] changing ownership? I think you said
[57:30] >> this one was a change change of
[57:32] » this one was a change change of
[57:32] ownership. Um sometimes when owners ch
[57:35] they don't want to transfer the alcohol
[57:37] license over uh that they have. So then
[57:39] they have then the new owner has to
[57:41] apply for a new one.
[57:46] » Any additional comments?
[57:50] Do we have a motion?
[57:53] >> Are we Are we doing both of them or just
[57:55] » Are we Are we doing both of them or just
[57:55] one at a time?
[57:55] >> Just one.
[57:56] » Just one.
[57:56] >> One at a time.
[57:56] » One at a time.
[57:56] >> Uh, I move the approval of AP 20261.
[58:01] » Uh, I move the approval of AP 20261.
[58:01] >> Do we have a second?
[58:02] » Do we have a second?
[58:02] >> Second.
[58:03] » Second.
[58:03] >> City clerk, would you call the role,
[58:05] » City clerk, would you call the role,
[58:05] please?
[58:06] >> Commissioner Tagler,
[58:08] » Commissioner Tagler,
[58:08] >> yes.
[58:08] » yes.
[58:08] >> Commissioner Dylan,
[58:09] » Commissioner Dylan,
[58:09] >> yes.
[58:10] » yes.
[58:10] >> Vice Mayor McGee,
[58:12] » Vice Mayor McGee,
[58:12] >> yes.
[58:12] » yes.
[58:12] >> Commissioner Gavay,
[58:13] » Commissioner Gavay,
[58:13] >> yes.
[58:14] » yes.
[58:14] >> Mayor Brooks,
[58:15] » Mayor Brooks,
[58:15] >> yes. The motion carried by to zero.
[58:17] » yes. The motion carried by to zero.
[58:17] [clears throat]
[58:18] >> Next on the agenda is ABP2026-02
[58:22] » Next on the agenda is ABP2026-02
[58:22] Florida Fisherman Inc. and I will hand
[58:24] this to the city attorney.
[58:25] >> Thank you. Okay. The summary of this
[58:26] » Thank you. Okay. The summary of this
[58:26] application is that the applicant is
[58:28] requesting authorization from the board
[58:29] of commissioners for the approval of a
[58:31] two cop alcoholic beverage license for
[58:34] the sale of beer and um and wine by by
[58:36] the drink or in seal containers for
[58:38] consumption at the vessel located at 112
[58:40] Boardwalk Place, 124 Boardwalk Place,
[58:42] and 140 Boardwalk Place here in MadiRaa
[58:45] Beach. The standards to be applied are
[58:47] those that you I just listed in the
[58:49] previous application. The burden of
[58:51] proof um is the same. The identity of
[58:54] the parties are the same. Um the order
[58:57] of presentation is going to be the same.
[58:59] The quasa judicial procedures follow the
[59:02] same as I just read. Any exparte
[59:04] communications on this application?
[59:06] Anybody needs to report?
[59:08] >> No. Um any conflicts of interest that
[59:10] » No. Um any conflicts of interest that
[59:10] need to be addressed?
[59:12] >> No.
[59:12] » No.
[59:12] >> No. Okay. So, I've already sworn in all
[59:15] » No. Okay. So, I've already sworn in all
[59:15] the witnesses. So, Mr. Moors, um it's
[59:19] back to you. The only the only
[59:21] difference is this is for a pirate ship.
[59:25] So other than that, my uh staff reports
[59:27] pretty pretty identical to the other
[59:29] one. I I think unless you want me to
[59:32] reread through it again. Um but that's
[59:35] it's for the for the the pirate ship.
[59:38] That's not necessary, Mr. Morris, unless
[59:41] the commission wants that. I'm not
[59:43] seeing any um objection to you. Um do
[59:47] you want to submit your report into
[59:48] evidence, though?
[59:49] >> Yeah. Yes, sir.
[59:50] » Yeah. Yes, sir.
[59:50] >> Okay. So, that'd be received in evidence
[59:52] » Okay. So, that'd be received in evidence
[59:52] >> and and is is is the Are any questions
[59:55] » and and is is is the Are any questions
[59:56] of Mr. Morris on this one?
[59:58] >> No. Okay. Thank you. Um is the applicant
[1:00:00] » No. Okay. Thank you. Um is the applicant
[1:00:00] here on this application? No one here.
[1:00:03] Anyone from the public want to address
[1:00:04] this application?
[1:00:07] No one here. It's back to the commission
[1:00:08] for consideration approval.
[1:00:10] >> Do we have a motion?
[1:00:12] » Do we have a motion?
[1:00:12] >> I make a motion to approve ABP 20262
[1:00:18] » I make a motion to approve ABP 20262
[1:00:18] mailing and Second fisherman. Yeah.
[1:00:21] >> City clerk, would you call the role,
[1:00:22] » City clerk, would you call the role,
[1:00:22] please?
[1:00:24] >> Commissioner Dylan,
[1:00:25] » Commissioner Dylan,
[1:00:25] >> yes.
[1:00:26] » yes.
[1:00:26] >> Commissioner Tagalini,
[1:00:27] » Commissioner Tagalini,
[1:00:27] >> yes.
[1:00:28] » yes.
[1:00:28] >> Vice Mayor McGin,
[1:00:30] » Vice Mayor McGin,
[1:00:30] >> yes.
[1:00:30] » yes.
[1:00:30] >> Commissioner Gabayi,
[1:00:32] » Commissioner Gabayi,
[1:00:32] >> yes.
[1:00:32] » yes.
[1:00:32] >> Mayor Brooks,
[1:00:33] » Mayor Brooks,
[1:00:33] >> yes.
[1:00:34] » yes.
[1:00:34] >> The motion carried 5 to zero.
[1:00:36] » The motion carried 5 to zero.
[1:00:36] >> With no unfinished business, next on the
[1:00:38] » With no unfinished business, next on the
[1:00:38] agenda is contracts and agreements, air
[1:00:41] DNA software purchase. And I believe the
[1:00:44] city manager will take this or
[1:00:49] All right. Um, mayor, vice mayor,
[1:00:51] commission. What this contract is is
[1:00:54] [clears throat] um software that
[1:00:56] identifies short-term vacation rentals.
[1:00:58] Uh, BRBO, Airbnb.
[1:01:00] Uh, we've had issues. There's been
[1:01:02] public comment related to whether um
[1:01:06] short-term vacation rentals are legal in
[1:01:09] their current setting or where they're
[1:01:12] even at. So Marcy and myself, we
[1:01:15] [clears throat] sat through many, many
[1:01:17] presentations with various um software
[1:01:20] programs. This was the most cost
[1:01:22] effective. Um it does everything that
[1:01:24] all the other ones do. It doesn't have
[1:01:25] all the frills and benefits and what
[1:01:27] have you, but it gives us the the raw
[1:01:29] data that we want. And what that does is
[1:01:32] that this will turn into the fee
[1:01:35] schedule that you all approved earlier
[1:01:37] because now we per Florida state
[1:01:40] statute, they have to have a life safety
[1:01:41] fire inspection and we charge for that,
[1:01:44] you know, and then it will also help
[1:01:46] community development. I'll let Marcy
[1:01:48] speak on that. And we are looking to
[1:01:50] split this down the middle between both
[1:01:52] departments.
[1:01:54] The the benefit that community
[1:01:57] development will see from this is
[1:01:58] through the code enforcement and finding
[1:02:00] short-term rentals. Uh they'll be able
[1:02:02] to provide the data to us in a lat long
[1:02:04] format which will then feed into
[1:02:06] 4Erunner and it'll interact with our map
[1:02:10] that shows where short terminals are
[1:02:11] allowed and where they're not and help
[1:02:13] flush out the ones that are being
[1:02:16] advertised at locations where they're
[1:02:17] not legally allowed to operate. So that
[1:02:20] would help code enforcement. and they'll
[1:02:21] also identify ones that are operating
[1:02:23] legally but maybe didn't know they
[1:02:24] needed a BTR and stuff like that. So, we
[1:02:26] would then be able to contact them. Um,
[1:02:28] we would be able to do our rental
[1:02:29] inspections as well. So, that would be
[1:02:31] helpful in identifying that too.
[1:02:35] >> Do we have any public comment?
[1:02:41] » Oh, sorry.
[1:02:43] >> Hi, Bob 13301 Golf Lane. [clears throat]
[1:02:47] » Hi, Bob 13301 Golf Lane. [clears throat]
[1:02:47] Uh, prepared a couple notes. I saw the
[1:02:50] AirDNA DNA contract on the agenda and as
[1:02:54] both the real estate broker and owner of
[1:02:56] multiple short-term rental properties, I
[1:02:58] wanted to offer some perspective for the
[1:03:00] commission's consideration. In reviewing
[1:03:02] the memorandum, I understand the primary
[1:03:04] purpose of software is to help identify
[1:03:06] illegal or unregistered short-term
[1:03:08] rentals. I fully support that goal. um
[1:03:11] those operating outside the rules can
[1:03:13] negatively impact those of us who have
[1:03:15] taken the necessary steps to operate
[1:03:16] legally and comply with city
[1:03:18] requirements. My concern however is with
[1:03:21] the accuracy and uh and reliability of
[1:03:24] the ARDNA data. In my experience
[1:03:27] reviewing ARDNA data, I found it to be
[1:03:29] questionable at best. Um for instance,
[1:03:33] um the main use of their software is to
[1:03:35] project what you will make it as far as
[1:03:38] rental income.
[1:03:40] it's horribly often from my use cases.
[1:03:45] Um, so if their main use is
[1:03:50] that poor, it I I'd kind of question
[1:03:53] some of the other secondary data they
[1:03:55] provide. Um, so more relevant to the
[1:03:57] city's proposed use. I'm also aware of
[1:04:00] properties that continue to appear in
[1:04:02] AirDNA's system even though they've been
[1:04:04] dormant and have not operated as
[1:04:06] short-term rental for extended periods
[1:04:08] of time. sometimes even years because
[1:04:11] one of my old properties show up that
[1:04:12] way. Um, before the city relies on this
[1:04:15] data, I identify potential violations or
[1:04:17] send notifications to property owners. I
[1:04:19] would encourage commission to make sure
[1:04:20] there's additional checks and balances
[1:04:22] in place to independently verify the
[1:04:24] information. AirDNA may be useful as an
[1:04:27] initial screening tool, but I'd caution
[1:04:29] against treating its data as definitive
[1:04:31] evidence that a property is currently
[1:04:33] operating as a legal short-term rental.
[1:04:36] Um, is a weird coincidence today. I've
[1:04:38] actually received an email from a
[1:04:40] property management group um, just
[1:04:42] forwarding to me the AirDNA software
[1:04:45] telling me how much I can make with one
[1:04:47] of my properties as a short-term rental.
[1:04:49] The only problem there are projections
[1:04:51] for this property. It's not legally
[1:04:52] zoned to be a short-term rental.
[1:04:55] So, just again, there's some some
[1:04:58] challenges. Ultimately, I support the
[1:05:00] city's efforts to identify and address
[1:05:03] um, illegal short-term rentals. I simply
[1:05:05] want to make sure the city's getting
[1:05:07] reliable value for the approximately
[1:05:10] $22,000 being spent and that property
[1:05:12] owners are not being unnecessarily
[1:05:14] contacted or subjected to enforcement
[1:05:16] efforts because it's inaccurate or
[1:05:18] outdated third party data. Thank you for
[1:05:20] your consideration.
[1:05:22] >> Thank you. Do we have any additional
[1:05:23] » Thank you. Do we have any additional
[1:05:23] public comment
[1:05:25] commissioners?
[1:05:28] >> So I thank you for that m Mr. Bellis.
[1:05:31] » So I thank you for that m Mr. Bellis.
[1:05:31] So,
[1:05:33] it seems like this is a a real advantage
[1:05:36] for us because in the past code
[1:05:38] enforcement has struggled with
[1:05:40] identifying without a lot of specific
[1:05:43] evidence that there is being a
[1:05:45] short-term rental uh in in place. How
[1:05:48] will will this help us bypass some of
[1:05:50] this? Is is it going to require less,
[1:05:53] >> you know, a video of people moving in
[1:05:55] » you know, a video of people moving in
[1:05:55] and out? Is it going to be
[1:05:56] >> Exactly. And this and the backside of
[1:05:59] » Exactly. And this and the backside of
[1:05:59] this, this will also help with um code
[1:06:01] compliance because we were putting
[1:06:04] together an actual process now working
[1:06:06] with Marcy and PCSO deputies cuz before
[1:06:10] there were some um things that were
[1:06:12] getting lost in translation. The
[1:06:14] deputies might be notified of a
[1:06:16] short-term vacation rental that's
[1:06:18] operating illegally. They will go out
[1:06:20] and notify. they're doing their job, but
[1:06:22] then the process ended there. So, we
[1:06:25] weren't notified of it as as the city.
[1:06:28] So, we're actually implementing new
[1:06:30] policies and procedures related to all
[1:06:32] of this as a as a whole.
[1:06:33] >> Will there be members of of your
[1:06:35] » Will there be members of of your
[1:06:35] department, the fire department, who are
[1:06:37] going to be doing some of this now in
[1:06:38] addition to our
[1:06:39] >> Absolutely. This is [clears throat] per
[1:06:43] » Absolutely. This is [clears throat] per
[1:06:43] um the information on the surface that
[1:06:45] we got from AirDNA because they they
[1:06:47] obviously don't want to give us the all
[1:06:49] the information for free, you know. So,
[1:06:52] they gave us some information based on
[1:06:54] those numbers. That's where the uh
[1:06:56] second fire inspector will come into
[1:06:58] play. And this is from the on the
[1:07:01] surface again on the surface level
[1:07:03] numbers that they provided. it will more
[1:07:06] than pay for the our half of the
[1:07:07] contract and pay for that fire inspector
[1:07:09] position and still produce revenue. And
[1:07:12] um just to address Mr. Bellow's comment
[1:07:15] too, the the AirDNA, they don't they
[1:07:18] don't know our zoning. So they just see
[1:07:21] a a uh short-term vacation rental, but
[1:07:23] when we have that information, it's up
[1:07:25] to us to do what we want with it. You
[1:07:26] know, they don't know that it's illegal
[1:07:28] or not. They don't they don't have
[1:07:29] access to the zoning or if they do,
[1:07:31] they're not going to dig that deep into
[1:07:32] it. Well, then can you see a situation
[1:07:34] where something might happen where you
[1:07:35] would go to some place uh that I've
[1:07:38] identified as a short-term rental and it
[1:07:40] turns out some for some reason it's not?
[1:07:41] I mean, it's not an automatic ding to
[1:07:43] them. Right. [clears throat]
[1:07:44] >> Correct. So, what they do is um if if
[1:07:48] » Correct. So, what they do is um if if
[1:07:48] they have if they are active listed for
[1:07:51] even one day in a 30-day period, they
[1:07:53] show up on the on our monthly report.
[1:07:56] And then if they go dormant, they're
[1:07:58] supposed to anyways um pull be dropped
[1:08:01] from that list. And then once they go
[1:08:03] active again, we'll be 30 days behind,
[1:08:05] but then they'll show up on the next
[1:08:07] listing, the next monthly report showing
[1:08:10] that even for one day, they advertise
[1:08:12] that they were available to be rented.
[1:08:15] >> Thank you. I sir, I love this idea.
[1:08:18] » Thank you. I sir, I love this idea.
[1:08:18] >> I thank you for the research you did,
[1:08:20] » I thank you for the research you did,
[1:08:20] Mr. Bellows. Thank you for yours as
[1:08:22] well. And as I recall or believe, it's a
[1:08:25] 12-month lease. So, I don't think we can
[1:08:28] go wrong with the 12-month lease. And
[1:08:31] Bob, you're certainly active in the
[1:08:34] city. So, if you keep coming back
[1:08:37] occasionally and see and we can kind of
[1:08:39] bounce some things off of you. I think
[1:08:41] it's a great idea, though. A step
[1:08:43] definitely in the right direction.
[1:08:45] >> Yes. In speaking with city manager
[1:08:47] » Yes. In speaking with city manager
[1:08:47] Hellfrick, you know, we they offered a a
[1:08:49] little discount going for a two-year
[1:08:52] contract. We agreed, you know, sitting
[1:08:54] down and discussing it that let's just
[1:08:56] see what they're able to do for us for
[1:08:58] that first year and then we can go from
[1:09:00] there.
[1:09:02] >> I'm definitely for it. Great idea.
[1:09:05] » I'm definitely for it. Great idea.
[1:09:05] >> Thank you.
[1:09:06] » Thank you.
[1:09:06] >> Is there any competition?
[1:09:08] » Is there any competition?
[1:09:08] >> Oh, yeah. There's a uh we sat with I
[1:09:11] » Oh, yeah. There's a uh we sat with I
[1:09:11] don't want to name the companies, but
[1:09:13] one was well into the six figures for
[1:09:16] their their software. One was um 8 in
[1:09:19] the 80s. Another one was 55,000. And
[1:09:22] then once we got with AirDNA, I
[1:09:25] understand it's not uh the all the
[1:09:27] frills and benefits that the other
[1:09:29] companies can offer, but we don't need
[1:09:31] that. We just need the locations.
[1:09:35] >> So yeah, there there's definitely others
[1:09:37] » So yeah, there there's definitely others
[1:09:37] out there. much much more expensive.
[1:09:40] >> So, you're vetted.
[1:09:41] » So, you're vetted.
[1:09:41] >> Oh, yeah. Yeah. Me, myself, Marcy, her
[1:09:44] » Oh, yeah. Yeah. Me, myself, Marcy, her
[1:09:44] staff, uh the fire marshall, we sat in
[1:09:46] many many presentations
[1:09:48] >> to get to the end point where they
[1:09:50] » to get to the end point where they
[1:09:50] dropped the price on us and we say, "No,
[1:09:52] that's we just wasted an hour of our
[1:09:54] day."
[1:09:55] >> And we sat with me in many presentations
[1:09:57] » And we sat with me in many presentations
[1:09:57] with AirDNA as well. When we had a
[1:10:00] question, I would get with their rep.
[1:10:02] She would set up a team's meeting and we
[1:10:04] would discuss everything and any
[1:10:06] questions we had she would answer.
[1:10:08] >> And the fees will be paid upfront or
[1:10:10] » And the fees will be paid upfront or
[1:10:10] would that be month?
[1:10:12] >> It's an annual fee. So we we would go
[1:10:14] » It's an annual fee. So we we would go
[1:10:14] and do their just like a a regular
[1:10:17] business in the city. They would get
[1:10:19] their annual life safety inspection
[1:10:21] every year and it's per again as per
[1:10:23] Florida state statute. We don't ask for
[1:10:25] anything more or anything less.
[1:10:28] >> Y thank you.
[1:10:29] » Y thank you.
[1:10:29] >> Yes sir. So, the only question I have on
[1:10:31] » Yes sir. So, the only question I have on
[1:10:31] the contract is that it is an automatic
[1:10:34] renewal, and we don't typically do
[1:10:35] automatic renewal contracts.
[1:10:39] This one will automatically renew unless
[1:10:42] you give 90 days written notice.
[1:10:46] I would be in favor of not having that
[1:10:48] in there and and removing the 90 days
[1:10:51] and h making them have to give us a new
[1:10:54] contract every year.
[1:10:55] >> Agreed. I
[1:10:56] » Agreed. I
[1:10:56] >> So that we don't miss it cuz
[1:10:57] » So that we don't miss it cuz
[1:10:57] >> Yeah. I and I know we don't typically do
[1:11:00] » Yeah. I and I know we don't typically do
[1:11:00] that. I sorry if I missed that.
[1:11:02] >> Yeah, good advice.
[1:11:03] » Yeah, good advice.
[1:11:04] >> And
[1:11:04] » And
[1:11:04] >> it's all I have to give input on this.
[1:11:06] » it's all I have to give input on this.
[1:11:06] >> Yeah.
[1:11:06] » Yeah.
[1:11:06] >> Attorney Tras, would you like me to send
[1:11:08] » Attorney Tras, would you like me to send
[1:11:08] that back over to them and copy you or
[1:11:10] would you like to
[1:11:12] >> handle that? You can tell them what the
[1:11:13] » handle that? You can tell them what the
[1:11:13] what the commission is considering and
[1:11:16] they'll approve it subject to the re the
[1:11:17] deletion of that language.
[1:11:19] >> Okay.
[1:11:19] » Okay.
[1:11:19] >> Yeah.
[1:11:21] » Yeah.
[1:11:21] So, can we have a motion to approve the
[1:11:24] contract with the
[1:11:26] removal of the 90-day
[1:11:29] notice?
[1:11:33] » I move that we approve the 12-month
[1:11:36] subscription agreement with Air DND LLC
[1:11:39] with the removal of the automatic
[1:11:42] renewal.
[1:11:43] >> We have a second. City clerk, would you
[1:11:45] » We have a second. City clerk, would you
[1:11:45] call the role, please?
[1:11:49] Commissioner Taglerini,
[1:11:51] >> yes.
[1:11:51] » yes.
[1:11:51] >> Commissioner Dylan,
[1:11:52] » Commissioner Dylan,
[1:11:52] >> yes.
[1:11:53] » yes.
[1:11:53] >> Vice Mayor McGee,
[1:11:55] » Vice Mayor McGee,
[1:11:55] >> yes.
[1:11:56] » yes.
[1:11:56] >> Commissioner Gabbay,
[1:11:57] » Commissioner Gabbay,
[1:11:57] >> yes.
[1:11:57] » yes.
[1:11:57] >> Mayor Brooks,
[1:11:58] » Mayor Brooks,
[1:11:58] >> yes.
[1:11:59] » yes.
[1:11:59] >> The motion carried 5 to zero. Next on
[1:12:01] » The motion carried 5 to zero. Next on
[1:12:01] the agenda is the revision to the
[1:12:03] Readington EMS station funding
[1:12:05] agreement.
[1:12:06] >> Yes.
[1:12:06] » Yes.
[1:12:06] >> Chief,
[1:12:07] » Chief,
[1:12:07] >> this was the it's basically the same
[1:12:09] » this was the it's basically the same
[1:12:09] agreement that was presented to the
[1:12:10] board uh last month. They sent it back
[1:12:13] to us because they wanted the signature
[1:12:15] page changed to where the county
[1:12:17] administrator could sign versus bringing
[1:12:20] it to the board of county commissioners.
[1:12:21] And that is the only thing that has
[1:12:23] changed. The funding is still 100%
[1:12:25] coming from Penllis County. And um city
[1:12:28] of Madura Beach is still the project
[1:12:29] manager.
[1:12:31] >> Do we have any public comment?
[1:12:34] » Do we have any public comment?
[1:12:34] Commission, do you have any questions or
[1:12:35] comments?
[1:12:38] If not, do we have a motion?
[1:12:42] I make a motion
[1:12:45] uh to approve the uh funding agreement
[1:12:48] with the uh Bington Beaches EMS station.
[1:12:52] >> Do we have a second?
[1:12:53] » Do we have a second?
[1:12:53] >> Second.
[1:12:54] » Second.
[1:12:54] >> City clerk, would you call the role,
[1:12:55] » City clerk, would you call the role,
[1:12:55] please?
[1:12:57] >> Vice Mayor McGee?
[1:12:58] » Vice Mayor McGee?
[1:12:58] >> Yes.
[1:12:59] » Yes.
[1:12:59] >> Commissioner Dylan?
[1:13:00] » Commissioner Dylan?
[1:13:00] >> Yes.
[1:13:01] » Yes.
[1:13:01] >> Commissioner Tagarini?
[1:13:02] » Commissioner Tagarini?
[1:13:02] >> Yes.
[1:13:03] » Yes.
[1:13:03] >> Commissioner Gabayi?
[1:13:04] » Commissioner Gabayi?
[1:13:04] >> Yes.
[1:13:05] » Yes.
[1:13:05] >> Mayor Brooks?
[1:13:06] » Mayor Brooks?
[1:13:06] >> Yes.
[1:13:07] » Yes.
[1:13:07] >> The motion carry 5 to zero. Thank you.
[1:13:09] » The motion carry 5 to zero. Thank you.
[1:13:09] >> Next on the agenda is new business, the
[1:13:11] » Next on the agenda is new business, the
[1:13:11] authorization to proceed with due
[1:13:13] diligence. And I'm going to give this to
[1:13:15] the city manager.
[1:13:17] >> Uh mayor and commissioners, um
[1:13:20] » Uh mayor and commissioners, um
[1:13:20] [clears throat] we have discussed uh
[1:13:22] purchasing the 455 property and um we
[1:13:27] had an u an agreement that um we have
[1:13:32] had reviewed by the city attorney and
[1:13:34] also the by uh the sellers attorney. um
[1:13:39] I'm sorry, real estate agent and uh we
[1:13:43] just uh received
[1:13:45] uh the um
[1:13:48] their signatures on the document.
[1:13:51] However, we have not allowed you all to
[1:13:54] review it uh sufficiently at this time.
[1:13:57] Um so I s I'm going to suggest that we
[1:14:01] maybe have a a special meeting for that.
[1:14:05] um or unless you all want to to review
[1:14:08] it right now. Uh it's about 16 I think
[1:14:13] maybe 17 pages long. Um but I'm going to
[1:14:18] leave that up to you to decide how you
[1:14:20] wanted to um to proceed.
[1:14:24] Um, before we go to public comment,
[1:14:26] commission, do you have any questions or
[1:14:28] comments or opinions on what the city
[1:14:30] may
[1:14:31] >> I have a question.
[1:14:34] » I have a question.
[1:14:34] Why do we need this property?
[1:14:37] What is the
[1:14:39] end goal?
[1:14:43] » I understand we property.
[1:14:45] >> Yeah.
[1:14:45] » Yeah.
[1:14:45] >> Well, there's there's a couple of
[1:14:47] » Well, there's there's a couple of
[1:14:47] reasons why. um it's splitting the two
[1:14:50] properties that we own right now. Uh it
[1:14:54] so without owning that, we don't have a
[1:14:56] continuous property. The other thing is
[1:14:59] is that on the west side of the property
[1:15:04] that we just bought for $18 million, we
[1:15:08] would not be able to use um that area to
[1:15:13] um to dock boats on. So, we would only
[1:15:16] have a two-sided
[1:15:18] marina instead of a three-sided marina.
[1:15:22] Um, and those that would be that would
[1:15:25] be my reasons uh for buying it.
[1:15:33] I I have obviously I would look at the
[1:15:35] full contract, but I in in the memos
[1:15:37] that we were provided regarding the
[1:15:39] former underground gasoline storage tank
[1:15:42] uh and historical petroleum discharge
[1:15:44] and soil impacts have bear confirmed not
[1:15:47] not fully deliated. That's in the
[1:15:49] wording that we saw. Is there anything
[1:15:50] that would could be discovered that
[1:15:52] would prevent the purchase of the
[1:15:54] property? And if there's a substantial
[1:15:56] environmental issue, would we be able to
[1:15:58] negotiate the price?
[1:16:01] Um my understanding is a a an environ
[1:16:05] phase one environmental site assessment
[1:16:08] is required
[1:16:10] uh that um so we would proceed with an
[1:16:14] environmental site assessment. If
[1:16:16] something came up uh that determined
[1:16:19] that we needed to do a a phase two site
[1:16:22] assessment, it's in the contract that
[1:16:24] says we have um up to 60 days to get a a
[1:16:29] phase two. Phase two is sampling and
[1:16:32] things of that effect. as we were I was
[1:16:35] going through the um the environmental
[1:16:38] um I think it's called a supplemental
[1:16:40] site assessment that was done that was
[1:16:42] the um that's in the um
[1:16:48] in your package. Uh it states that that
[1:16:52] the contamination was just in the soil
[1:16:56] and not in the groundwater. Therefore,
[1:16:59] most likely we would not have to proceed
[1:17:02] with a an environmental site assessment.
[1:17:05] Um, a phase two environmental sight
[1:17:07] assessment. Um,
[1:17:10] therefore, I I don't think at this point
[1:17:14] right now that there's any kind of of of
[1:17:17] risk of of contamination there. However,
[1:17:21] there is soil contamination. Okay, we
[1:17:26] know that from the from the uh report.
[1:17:30] So, a reduction in price, I'm not sure
[1:17:33] that that's something that
[1:17:36] >> Yeah, I I don't believe that. But a
[1:17:39] » Yeah, I I don't believe that. But a
[1:17:40] phase two of site assessment would be
[1:17:43] determined after the phase one site
[1:17:46] assessment.
[1:17:53] I I I mean, you know, I'm coming into
[1:17:55] this kind of blind. Uh the four of you
[1:17:59] were
[1:18:01] apprised with the other property
[1:18:05] beforehand and I had some questions
[1:18:08] about that which I can't ask anybody.
[1:18:13] So, I'm kind of like with my hands tied,
[1:18:15] but here we're jumping. And I was just
[1:18:17] looking through here to see if there
[1:18:18] were any numbers. But I, you know, I
[1:18:21] don't know
[1:18:24] in
[1:18:25] right faith that we're jumping into the
[1:18:28] right thing. And just from a standpoint
[1:18:31] of
[1:18:33] I understand being the whole continuous
[1:18:36] thing, but
[1:18:39] um how much grief are we going to be
[1:18:42] getting more from this? And and I guess
[1:18:44] I'm going back with the thing of I had
[1:18:47] talks with Mike about
[1:18:50] putting a whole plan together. And you
[1:18:54] know, one of the things like I didn't
[1:18:57] know going into the idea with a plan. So
[1:19:00] by having this piece of property now,
[1:19:04] there is another look about plans. And I
[1:19:07] guess I'm I'm I'm kind of bambling here,
[1:19:10] but I'm like, you know, I know
[1:19:12] information, but I don't know
[1:19:13] information. And um I need more
[1:19:17] information here. I mean, you know, but
[1:19:19] I'm just one person here. the four view
[1:19:22] went forth with the 555 property. So I
[1:19:26] mean you know I've heard rumblings but
[1:19:28] yet now it's here and I don't know
[1:19:30] whether or not at this point where where
[1:19:34] we're going with this. So we gave the
[1:19:38] com So when we purchased the 555
[1:19:40] property and we started doing the
[1:19:41] meetings
[1:19:43] um the community there was a great
[1:19:46] interest from the community for if we
[1:19:49] ever had the opportunity to purchase
[1:19:51] this property that we purchase it to
[1:19:53] give the city the full 10 acres. I
[1:19:56] believe it's right at 10 acres all of
[1:19:57] it. And um we had a meeting where we
[1:20:01] gave the city manager's office the
[1:20:03] authorization to pursue purchasing the
[1:20:06] property. And so what he's done is he's
[1:20:10] gone out and negotiated a contract. and
[1:20:13] he has to bring that contract to us to
[1:20:16] approve it so that he can do the next
[1:20:18] steps which is to get the appraisals, do
[1:20:22] the um due diligence on the
[1:20:24] environmental testing and then it would
[1:20:26] come back to us with all of that
[1:20:28] information. I think what Mike is saying
[1:20:30] is that we received the contract today
[1:20:32] at like 6:20 signed and so the meeting
[1:20:35] had already started. he did not have the
[1:20:38] opportunity to share the contract with
[1:20:40] everyone so that everyone here could
[1:20:42] read the contract and see what it says
[1:20:45] and the purchase price and all of that.
[1:20:47] That's what he was giving the
[1:20:49] information on. Um, as far as the
[1:20:52] purchasing of it, four of us did give
[1:20:55] authorization to move forward. Um, but I
[1:20:58] any questions that you have about the
[1:21:00] property, whether it's the the what
[1:21:03] we've already purchased or this, we can
[1:21:06] talk about that today in a meeting or
[1:21:08] you could ask Mike anything
[1:21:11] um as far as that goes. But we have I
[1:21:14] can tell you with certainty that many
[1:21:17] residents have voiced their opinion on
[1:21:19] wanting the city to acquire that. It's
[1:21:21] the entrance to the city and it would
[1:21:23] give the city full control of the
[1:21:26] entrance to the city and how it looks.
[1:21:28] >> Thank you. I mean, I'm not opposed to
[1:21:30] » Thank you. I mean, I'm not opposed to
[1:21:30] it, but I'm like I'm trying to come in
[1:21:32] after the game's already been played.
[1:21:34] >> No, I understand.
[1:21:35] » No, I understand.
[1:21:35] >> So, and and so understanding it uh and
[1:21:38] » So, and and so understanding it uh and
[1:21:38] and I mean, you know, Mike and I have
[1:21:40] had many, many conversations, the two of
[1:21:42] us coming in new and he's newer than me,
[1:21:45] but yet um inundating with things. So
[1:21:50] yes, you know, and and and once again,
[1:21:53] he wasn't really even privy to 555, so
[1:21:58] he didn't know any more than I did, you
[1:22:00] know. So, and and I mean, you know, I'm
[1:22:01] not opposed to it, but it's just like,
[1:22:04] you know, oh, here it is.
[1:22:07] >> Eddie or M Commissioner McGee.
[1:22:09] » Eddie or M Commissioner McGee.
[1:22:10] >> Yeah, definitely. I think that adding
[1:22:11] » Yeah, definitely. I think that adding
[1:22:11] this property would be idea. We've
[1:22:14] already talked about adding this
[1:22:15] property. The only thing that I would
[1:22:17] like to talk further is is the soil
[1:22:20] contamination.
[1:22:21] Um, and basically we can talk about it
[1:22:25] here. We can talk about it oneon-one. I
[1:22:28] believe the residents, as the mayor
[1:22:30] said, are in agreement with this
[1:22:32] property. That way we have it the whole
[1:22:34] thing. Um, I just don't know much about
[1:22:38] when you brought up the soil
[1:22:39] contamination. Mhm. [clears throat] Um
[1:22:43] the state of Florida uh D FD uh Florida
[1:22:47] Department of of U environmental
[1:22:49] protection, they had a program to remove
[1:22:52] underground storage tanks. This this
[1:22:54] site had a 2,000galon underground
[1:22:57] storage tank and part of the state
[1:23:00] wanting to come in and aband and wanted
[1:23:02] those abandoned tanks to be removed. So
[1:23:05] the state um paid for the removal of the
[1:23:10] 2,000galon underground storage tank and
[1:23:12] then they also paid for a an assessment
[1:23:17] afterwards to see what type of
[1:23:20] contamination was left behind. Part of
[1:23:23] that was to take soil samples and also
[1:23:26] take groundwater samples of that area.
[1:23:28] So there's probably and I I counted them
[1:23:30] up but I can't remember. I think there's
[1:23:32] five environmental um monitoring wells
[1:23:35] out there and over the years they've
[1:23:38] been sampling those and they do not have
[1:23:40] any contamination. However, when they
[1:23:42] did the removal of the tank, there was
[1:23:44] some leftover um soil contamination.
[1:23:49] It wasn't to the point, it wasn't in a
[1:23:51] an amount that the state says, okay,
[1:23:53] this is an environmental hazard. It's
[1:23:55] just that there's traces of petroleum in
[1:23:59] the soil. Um, the only time that that
[1:24:03] would be of hazard is if we were to tear
[1:24:05] the building down, pull up the the
[1:24:08] foundation, uh, and start to try to
[1:24:10] build something on that. this program
[1:24:13] that the state has uh if we do go that
[1:24:17] route ter you know to to remove the
[1:24:20] building and the foundations the state
[1:24:24] would come in and for their at their
[1:24:27] cost remove the top 2 feet of soil um so
[1:24:31] that's the program that that site is
[1:24:33] under and it gets transferred over to
[1:24:35] the city so I see it as a very small
[1:24:38] risk of that contamination again we have
[1:24:42] to do our due diligence on the envir
[1:24:44] environmental site assessment phase one.
[1:24:47] That phase one will then direct us if we
[1:24:51] need to do a uh a phase two.
[1:24:57] » Mike, do we know how much they would be
[1:24:59] asking for this property at this stage
[1:25:01] of the game?
[1:25:02] >> The property uh we offer uh our offer is
[1:25:06] » The property uh we offer uh our offer is
[1:25:06] at 3.5 million.
[1:25:11] To me that's a lot of money.
[1:25:13] Um I can understand make the properties
[1:25:16] contiguous and enjoy a whole you know
[1:25:20] giant nice piece of property. Um, I
[1:25:24] think the little bit of an upland that
[1:25:26] they have
[1:25:29] doesn't justify the the cost and also
[1:25:32] there's a lot of obviously wetlands and
[1:25:35] and the bay and all that water really
[1:25:39] there is generally stagnant because it
[1:25:41] has no other place to go. So, it kind of
[1:25:44] goes bacterious. But that's another item
[1:25:48] for another day. Um,
[1:25:51] you know, I don't know what the board
[1:25:53] thinks, but I I'm not going to support
[1:25:56] this.
[1:25:57] >> Mayor, if I if I could without sounding
[1:25:59] » Mayor, if I if I could without sounding
[1:25:59] too much like I'm getting up on a soap
[1:26:01] box, but we're on the precipice of
[1:26:03] making a historical
[1:26:06] uh change and for the better in Madira
[1:26:08] Beach. I I think we should wait and have
[1:26:11] the opportunity to look at the contract.
[1:26:13] Absolutely. I think we should discuss
[1:26:15] it. I don't know how much time we have
[1:26:16] since it's been uh signed before we can
[1:26:19] get mov forward. But all the first step
[1:26:22] is to get that testing done to phase
[1:26:24] one.
[1:26:25] >> We can't do that. We cannot do that. So
[1:26:28] » We can't do that. We cannot do that. So
[1:26:28] the way it works is we need to have we
[1:26:31] need to all review the contract, have a
[1:26:33] meeting, approve the contract, and once
[1:26:35] we approve the contract, then the
[1:26:38] testing can be done.
[1:26:40] >> I guess that's what I meant. That's what
[1:26:41] » I guess that's what I meant. That's what
[1:26:41] I meant. I just I Yes, there's going to
[1:26:43] be a lot of details. It's a lot of money
[1:26:45] and it's a lot of land.
[1:26:48] But if we were to do this, this would
[1:26:52] this would be a gamecher for our city.
[1:26:54] And and I think it would be a positive
[1:26:56] game changer. The fact that we could use
[1:26:59] the entire three sides for for for
[1:27:02] revenue, for for docks, for income, for
[1:27:06] whatever we want, and the fact that we
[1:27:07] couldn't if we didn't own it. Uh all of
[1:27:10] that. So I not only in favor I'm
[1:27:13] strongly in favor of moving forward but
[1:27:15] after we look at that contract
[1:27:18] >> could um maybe could or rec department
[1:27:21] » could um maybe could or rec department
[1:27:21] do an assessment as far as how much
[1:27:23] money we can bring maybe in the next 10
[1:27:26] years would that be possible too
[1:27:28] >> I feel like I've already seen some of
[1:27:30] » I feel like I've already seen some of
[1:27:30] those numbers just with two sides of it
[1:27:32] >> right
[1:27:33] » right
[1:27:33] >> that was presented at one of our
[1:27:35] » that was presented at one of our
[1:27:35] workshops and uh just by the way I meant
[1:27:37] to say earlier at I went to all of the
[1:27:39] workshops we had with and there were
[1:27:41] there were no push back right from any
[1:27:43] residents, right? They were all
[1:27:45] positive. Yes. Let's get this done.
[1:27:46] >> The community as a whole was very
[1:27:48] » The community as a whole was very
[1:27:48] positive in the purchase of the of the
[1:27:51] 555 property and were very supportive of
[1:27:54] the city pursuing this purchase. Um so I
[1:27:57] think the conversation is when can we
[1:27:59] have a meeting and um
[1:28:05] is everybody available on the 24th of
[1:28:07] August?
[1:28:10] I'm not
[1:28:11] >> uh depending on the time I'm either free
[1:28:14] » uh depending on the time I'm either free
[1:28:14] in the morning or I'm free after 300
[1:28:16] p.m.
[1:28:21] » And there's and it's burger week.
[1:28:24] >> Well, we can all leave here and go get a
[1:28:25] » Well, we can all leave here and go get a
[1:28:25] burger.
[1:28:28] >> Can we order in a burger?
[1:28:30] » Can we order in a burger?
[1:28:30] >> I'm good.
[1:28:31] » I'm good.
[1:28:31] >> I'm good. The 24th all day.
[1:28:35] » I'm good. The 24th all day.
[1:28:35] >> Commissioner McGee go.
[1:28:37] » Commissioner McGee go.
[1:28:37] >> I'm good.
[1:28:37] » I'm good.
[1:28:37] >> You good?
[1:28:38] » You good?
[1:28:38] >> Yeah. So
[1:28:41] » Yeah. So
[1:28:41] >> funny
[1:28:42] » funny
[1:28:42] >> he they said good you said after 3:00
[1:28:45] » he they said good you said after 3:00
[1:28:45] >> either after 3 or before noon
[1:28:47] » either after 3 or before noon
[1:28:47] >> tr cannot be here for it could some
[1:28:50] » tr cannot be here for it could some
[1:28:50] >> I would remind you also you have code
[1:28:51] » I would remind you also you have code
[1:28:51] enforcement special master hearing
[1:28:53] starting at noon and there is at least
[1:28:55] 23 cases that are I think 23 close to it
[1:29:00] cases are going to be heard I don't know
[1:29:01] how long that meeting is going to go um
[1:29:03] so we do those in this chamber so it it
[1:29:08] should not be early in the afternoon and
[1:29:10] I'm double booked on the 24th
[1:29:13] and I'm not sure if I can get a lawyer
[1:29:15] here because my backup is covering
[1:29:17] another meeting that I'm double booked
[1:29:18] on.
[1:29:22] Um,
[1:29:25] we are all here on the 21st.
[1:29:28] I don't know if that would work for
[1:29:30] strategic planning until 4 o'clock
[1:29:33] >> after that.
[1:29:38] » Well, that would work except I think
[1:29:40] we're serving burgers that night.
[1:29:42] >> No, we're serving No,
[1:29:44] » No, we're serving No,
[1:29:44] >> we're serving burgers on the 26th at
[1:29:47] » we're serving burgers on the 26th at
[1:29:47] noon.
[1:29:48] >> Okay. Sorry.
[1:29:50] » Okay. Sorry.
[1:29:50] So it is so the 21st is the kickoff to
[1:29:54] um burger week.
[1:29:58] » So burgers and after the strategic
[1:30:01] planning
[1:30:02] >> strategic planning then then a special
[1:30:05] » strategic planning then then a special
[1:30:05] meeting and then village Friday.
[1:30:09] I I don't know. I'm just I'm asking I'm
[1:30:11] verbalizing it.
[1:30:12] >> I'm I'm fine with that. It'll be a long
[1:30:14] » I'm I'm fine with that. It'll be a long
[1:30:14] day, but we'll all be here
[1:30:17] >> on the 21st.
[1:30:19] » on the 21st.
[1:30:19] >> So, we're thinking the 21st at what?
[1:30:22] » So, we're thinking the 21st at what?
[1:30:22] Five o'clock. That's a Friday.
[1:30:25] >> Or or when we're done.
[1:30:27] » Or or when we're done.
[1:30:27] >> Yeah. Right after that.
[1:30:28] » Yeah. Right after that.
[1:30:28] >> No, you have We've got a sketch. We have
[1:30:30] » No, you have We've got a sketch. We have
[1:30:30] to advertise it. So,
[1:30:31] >> Okay. What about Thursday the 20th where
[1:30:35] » Okay. What about Thursday the 20th where
[1:30:35] you don't have another commitment?
[1:30:38] >> Um,
[1:30:40] » Um,
[1:30:40] >> I'm free in the afternoon.
[1:30:44] I'm good.
[1:30:45] >> So, I can do in the afternoon.
[1:30:50] » Who's [snorts] on vacation?
[1:30:50] >> Sounds like our AV guy may be on
[1:30:52] » Sounds like our AV guy may be on
[1:30:52] vacation.
[1:30:53] >> That's fine. We'll we'll work that out.
[1:30:55] » That's fine. We'll we'll work that out.
[1:30:55] >> So, 5:00 on the 20
[1:30:58] » So, 5:00 on the 20
[1:30:58] >> 20th
[1:31:00] » 20th
[1:31:00] >> 20th.
[1:31:00] » 20th.
[1:31:00] >> Yep.
[1:31:01] » Yep.
[1:31:01] >> That works for me.
[1:31:01] » That works for me.
[1:31:01] >> 5:00 on the 20th. Commissioners.
[1:31:04] » 5:00 on the 20th. Commissioners.
[1:31:04] >> Yes, that's
[1:31:06] » Yes, that's
[1:31:06] >> city attorney.
[1:31:08] » city attorney.
[1:31:08] >> Okay.
[1:31:17] Okay.
[1:31:21] Then next on the agenda is agenda
[1:31:23] setting. And uh Commissioner McGee, you
[1:31:26] have something you'd like to
[1:31:28] >> Yeah. I would just like to add I've had
[1:31:29] » Yeah. I would just like to add I've had
[1:31:29] some residents reach out to me on 144th
[1:31:33] and 145th. And as you know, Marcy,
[1:31:36] you've taken drives around that that
[1:31:38] horseshoe. um [clears throat] 145th, you
[1:31:41] know, uh I believe there's three or four
[1:31:45] pools that have not been kept up and uh
[1:31:49] they've reached out to me and a lot of
[1:31:51] they have children on 144th and they
[1:31:54] they don't want them to play outside
[1:31:56] because of the mosquitoes that are just
[1:31:58] breeding rampantly over there. So maybe
[1:32:00] we can add that we can uh get together
[1:32:02] and uh see if we can do something about
[1:32:04] that.
[1:32:08] anything additional that anyone else
[1:32:10] would like to see on the agenda?
[1:32:12] >> Madame Mayor, um
[1:32:14] » Madame Mayor, um
[1:32:14] I have the um plaque, the uh the key to
[1:32:19] the city plaque
[1:32:22] and um which we're going to discuss in a
[1:32:25] few minutes. So, if we're trying to set
[1:32:27] an agenda, then we probably need to let
[1:32:30] the recipients
[1:32:32] uh be present.
[1:32:36] Um, so the next meeting that we have
[1:32:38] that we're setting an agenda for will be
[1:32:39] a workshop.
[1:32:41] Do you want to present them at a
[1:32:43] workshop or in a regular meeting? Yeah,
[1:32:44] regular meeting. Yeah,
[1:32:47] >> I agree. For the next
[1:32:49] » I agree. For the next
[1:32:49] >> regular meeting.
[1:32:50] » regular meeting.
[1:32:50] >> Regular meeting.
[1:32:56] » Do we have any public comment?
[1:33:00] Then next on the agenda is reports and
[1:33:02] correspondence. Board of Commissioners
[1:33:04] reports and correspondence and I think
[1:33:06] commissioner is going to present. You
[1:33:08] want to present this to the commission?
[1:33:10] >> Um yes, I would love to have the
[1:33:13] » Um yes, I would love to have the
[1:33:13] commission take a look at this uh plaque
[1:33:16] for the key to the city.
[1:33:19] >> Um
[1:33:21] » Um
[1:33:21] >> and it'll have it would have this here
[1:33:24] » and it'll have it would have this here
[1:33:24] >> with Poppy on it.
[1:33:26] » with Poppy on it.
[1:33:26] >> And I would like to get some advice as
[1:33:28] » And I would like to get some advice as
[1:33:28] far as you know the notation that goes
[1:33:31] on that plaque. Oh,
[1:33:33] >> nice. Very good.
[1:33:36] » nice. Very good.
[1:33:36] >> I'd like to if you're asking for help, I
[1:33:38] » I'd like to if you're asking for help, I
[1:33:38] I'd give it some thought and send it to
[1:33:39] you.
[1:33:40] >> Would you?
[1:33:40] » Would you?
[1:33:40] >> Yeah, sure.
[1:33:42] » Yeah, sure.
[1:33:42] >> So, we could have that on our workshop.
[1:33:44] » So, we could have that on our workshop.
[1:33:44] >> And is So, just to be clear, is this a
[1:33:46] » And is So, just to be clear, is this a
[1:33:46] plaque that goes to the entity and stays
[1:33:50] with them? Or is that a plaque that has
[1:33:53] a list of people that get it from year
[1:33:55] to year?
[1:33:56] >> Goes to them and stay.
[1:33:57] » Goes to them and stay.
[1:33:57] >> So, the next time we give a key to the
[1:33:59] » So, the next time we give a key to the
[1:33:59] city, it'll be another plaque just like
[1:34:01] this. We'll have two plaques because
[1:34:03] we're going to give two keys to two
[1:34:06] folks that we have discussed previously.
[1:34:08] >> Okay. Yeah. But from the same entity.
[1:34:10] » Okay. Yeah. But from the same entity.
[1:34:10] >> Yes.
[1:34:11] » Yes.
[1:34:11] >> Yeah. So I'm just asking because it'll
[1:34:13] » Yeah. So I'm just asking because it'll
[1:34:13] make a difference on the wording should
[1:34:14] say. So this is specific to that entity
[1:34:17] and those people. So when we approved
[1:34:20] this plaque, so when this came to us, um
[1:34:23] we gave it to the commissioner go to go
[1:34:25] out and work with the city clerk's
[1:34:27] office to come up with a a plaque and a
[1:34:30] key in the presentation way. This will
[1:34:32] now be the way we present any key to the
[1:34:34] city that we give moving forward.
[1:34:36] >> Yes.
[1:34:37] » Yes.
[1:34:37] >> So this will be will this would
[1:34:40] » So this will be will this would
[1:34:40] >> nice. Yeah,
[1:34:41] » nice. Yeah,
[1:34:41] >> it looks nice.
[1:34:43] » it looks nice.
[1:34:43] >> Very nice.
[1:34:44] » Very nice.
[1:34:44] >> Thank you. Thanks for that work,
[1:34:45] » Thank you. Thanks for that work,
[1:34:45] Commissioner. Are we going to have
[1:34:47] anything here that shows who we gave
[1:34:50] keys to?
[1:34:52] >> I mean, you know,
[1:34:53] » I mean, you know,
[1:34:53] >> so the city has been giving keys for
[1:34:56] » so the city has been giving keys for
[1:34:56] many years and that's never been done.
[1:34:59] I'm sure that we could put something up
[1:35:01] that said who got them, but there have
[1:35:03] been a lot of keys over the years given.
[1:35:06] >> It'd be nice. That's a good idea to
[1:35:08] » It'd be nice. That's a good idea to
[1:35:08] create history.
[1:35:09] >> Yeah. I mean, because like they're
[1:35:11] » Yeah. I mean, because like they're
[1:35:11] taking this. So, and then and then did
[1:35:14] we decide is it a year or how often are
[1:35:17] we giving away the keys?
[1:35:21] So, a commissioner gets to nominate
[1:35:23] someone that they believe deserves the
[1:35:26] key to the city. And we had quite a bit
[1:35:28] of what I would call robust conversation
[1:35:31] in um not just giving the key to anyone.
[1:35:34] So I think in the past that I've learned
[1:35:38] there were keys given
[1:35:40] not particular they were given for lots
[1:35:42] of different reasons and this commission
[1:35:46] tended to lean towards giving a key to
[1:35:48] someone that was exceptionally doing
[1:35:51] something right. Not just handing a key
[1:35:53] to everybody but it being
[1:35:56] >> but so like this is one of the two keys
[1:35:59] » but so like this is one of the two keys
[1:35:59] or two keys that we're giving out for
[1:36:01] 2026.
[1:36:03] This is the highest honor that
[1:36:04] >> right I mean but like is and and I'm
[1:36:07] » right I mean but like is and and I'm
[1:36:07] trying not to
[1:36:09] >> degrade it you know so like you're just
[1:36:12] » degrade it you know so like you're just
[1:36:12] giving keys away keys away so we'll be
[1:36:15] so like this is the two keys for 2026
[1:36:18] are given away
[1:36:20] >> so I I that commissioner um Dylan
[1:36:24] » so I I that commissioner um Dylan
[1:36:24] bringing that up I think that because
[1:36:26] currently there are only four items on
[1:36:28] our agenda coming up for the workshop I
[1:36:31] think it would be mindful to have a
[1:36:33] discussion about the ordinances that we
[1:36:35] have in place currently for keys, coins,
[1:36:39] awards, those sorts of things. And that
[1:36:41] will help us that will propel us also
[1:36:44] into
[1:36:46] um the anniversary of the city because
[1:36:50] we're going to be doing awards for that,
[1:36:51] too. So, if we could add that, then we
[1:36:53] could have a really good conversation
[1:36:54] about that. And because this is a
[1:36:57] different commission um and we've
[1:36:59] learned other ordinances that existed
[1:37:01] that we weren't necessarily aware of. So
[1:37:04] we can do that. I think that would make
[1:37:05] for a great conversation.
[1:37:08] >> If I may, um as we all know, August is a
[1:37:12] » If I may, um as we all know, August is a
[1:37:12] Purple Heart month
[1:37:14] and um obviously right now it's kind of
[1:37:17] late, but maybe we should set this up
[1:37:19] from next year on to recognize Purple
[1:37:22] Heart
[1:37:23] >> with the American Legion right now.
[1:37:25] » with the American Legion right now.
[1:37:25] Yes. But
[1:37:26] >> yeah, Eddie Eddie took the lead on
[1:37:27] » yeah, Eddie Eddie took the lead on
[1:37:28] working on Purple Heart.
[1:37:29] >> Yes. No, I understand that. But as far
[1:37:31] » Yes. No, I understand that. But as far
[1:37:31] as like some sort of proclamation here
[1:37:33] that we recognize this month as a Purple
[1:37:36] Heart heart month.
[1:37:38] >> Yeah.
[1:37:38] » Yeah.
[1:37:38] >> It would be just nice to
[1:37:41] » It would be just nice to
[1:37:41] >> Well, we can do that coincide that with
[1:37:43] » Well, we can do that coincide that with
[1:37:43] the resident of Madira Beach that
[1:37:46] receives the recognition for the Purple
[1:37:49] Heart.
[1:37:49] >> Okay.
[1:37:50] » Okay.
[1:37:50] >> So, Commissioner, if you wanted to, we
[1:37:53] » So, Commissioner, if you wanted to, we
[1:37:53] can do that. We could do a proclamation
[1:37:55] at our BOC workshop on the 26th. It
[1:37:59] would be the end of the month, but we
[1:38:00] could still do that if you want to.
[1:38:01] >> Okay. I think that would be lovely if we
[1:38:03] » Okay. I think that would be lovely if we
[1:38:03] could do that.
[1:38:04] >> I think the city clerk can prepare that.
[1:38:07] » I think the city clerk can prepare that.
[1:38:07] >> Yes.
[1:38:08] » Yes.
[1:38:08] >> I get send me all the information on it.
[1:38:10] » I get send me all the information on it.
[1:38:10] I can put something together.
[1:38:12] One other item I wanted to bring up and
[1:38:15] and I was talking to our city clerk as
[1:38:18] far as um
[1:38:20] um
[1:38:24] as far as getting a raise and I I don't
[1:38:27] think we have given her a raise since uh
[1:38:30] her last evaluation. U am I correct? Um,
[1:38:34] I've got the 3% over to board of the
[1:38:37] same and we were supposed to get a
[1:38:39] valuation every October and of course
[1:38:42] it's late coming and we have another one
[1:38:44] this coming October and it the
[1:38:46] commission approved in the budget which
[1:38:49] I was included for the up to 3%
[1:38:51] depending on the numbers and
[1:38:55] >> but but but my point right now is you
[1:38:57] » but but but my point right now is you
[1:38:57] you did not get a raise from last
[1:38:59] October, right? So, it's
[1:39:02] >> not the mayor, not the um the merit as
[1:39:07] » not the mayor, not the um the merit as
[1:39:07] the same as the other employees.
[1:39:09] >> So,
[1:39:10] » So,
[1:39:10] >> she got the cola raise, not the merit
[1:39:11] » she got the cola raise, not the merit
[1:39:11] raise.
[1:39:12] >> Right.
[1:39:13] » Right.
[1:39:13] >> Right.
[1:39:15] » Right.
[1:39:15] Anyhow, just wanted to bring that up.
[1:39:16] >> Okay.
[1:39:17] » Okay.
[1:39:17] >> Yes, definitely. And that was in the
[1:39:18] » Yes, definitely. And that was in the
[1:39:18] budget, too, was it?
[1:39:19] >> Yes.
[1:39:21] » Yes.
[1:39:21] >> And it was due October 2025.
[1:39:26] » Anything additional?
[1:39:29] Next on the agenda is the 2026 meeting
[1:39:31] report. And I think that's just our
[1:39:34] regular report that Clara provides for
[1:39:36] us.
[1:39:38] Any questions or comments on that?
[1:39:42] Next on the agenda is city attorney.
[1:39:45] >> Thank you, mayor. I don't really have
[1:39:46] » Thank you, mayor. I don't really have
[1:39:46] anything to add. I'd be happy to answer
[1:39:48] any questions if anybody has any.
[1:39:50] >> Any questions for the city attorney?
[1:39:53] » Any questions for the city attorney?
[1:39:54] >> Thank you.
[1:39:54] » Thank you.
[1:39:54] >> We feel secure having you here, Tom.
[1:39:56] » We feel secure having you here, Tom.
[1:39:56] >> Appreciate that.
[1:39:58] » Appreciate that.
[1:39:58] And next on the agenda is the city
[1:40:00] clerk.
[1:40:03] >> Um we've been doing a the city clerk's
[1:40:06] » Um we've been doing a the city clerk's
[1:40:06] office has been doing a complete scan
[1:40:09] project and so we'll soon not have any
[1:40:13] uh records stored at off-site storage
[1:40:16] trying to get everything in the laser
[1:40:18] fish. And the more we can get in there
[1:40:21] the better for the community. and it's
[1:40:24] like looking on your computer, you know,
[1:40:26] your phone for information. So, we're
[1:40:28] hoping that our public portal will turn
[1:40:30] into that one day. And um we're also
[1:40:34] getting ready to do a ready scan and u
[1:40:37] the company is waiting on access to all
[1:40:40] the share drives and stuff and it's
[1:40:42] going to tell us what documents we have
[1:40:45] and that's not in laser fish and
[1:40:47] everything over the board. Um what our
[1:40:51] final one is and all. So we can capture
[1:40:54] all our documents that's somewhere
[1:40:56] whether in email or um in these shared
[1:40:59] drives and all we can get those the
[1:41:01] final of those documents inside laser
[1:41:04] fish for the public portal and which is
[1:41:07] to the commission as well to look. So I
[1:41:09] I'm really looking forward to that. Uh
[1:41:12] the last piece to that ready scan is the
[1:41:15] city manager and it given the um
[1:41:21] the access to those share drives and
[1:41:23] everything and they're ready to move
[1:41:25] forward. And so we that should be done
[1:41:28] this within probably a week and then we
[1:41:31] get started from there. And so we're
[1:41:34] really excited about it.
[1:41:37] >> That's nice. Yeah.
[1:41:39] » That's nice. Yeah.
[1:41:39] >> Thank you, Clara.
[1:41:40] » Thank you, Clara.
[1:41:40] >> You're welcome. clear up a lot of space.
[1:41:42] » You're welcome. clear up a lot of space.
[1:41:42] >> Next on the agenda is the city manager.
[1:41:45] » Next on the agenda is the city manager.
[1:41:45] >> Uh I'd like to have Max come up and give
[1:41:48] » Uh I'd like to have Max come up and give
[1:41:48] you an update on the burger week and uh
[1:41:52] I think a progress report on the seafood
[1:41:56] fest and then I've got a few other items
[1:41:57] I'd like to to catch you up on.
[1:42:08] All right, mayor, board of
[1:42:10] commissioners, I'm going to update you
[1:42:10] kind of on everything that's going on
[1:42:12] down at the recreation center um along
[1:42:15] with special events. So, for athletics
[1:42:17] over the summer, just so you are aware,
[1:42:19] um we did run a specialty summer uh
[1:42:22] basketball and volleyball specialty camp
[1:42:24] um in conjunction with OciOla High
[1:42:26] School, we utilize their indoor gym with
[1:42:28] our joint use agreement. We had over 100
[1:42:30] kids participate in that uh that
[1:42:32] specialty camp program. It's the first
[1:42:33] year we've done this. So, um we're
[1:42:35] really looking at expanding our athletic
[1:42:37] programming uh in that aspect. So, um
[1:42:40] right now we have fall youth soccer. Uh
[1:42:43] registration is open. Um and then we're
[1:42:47] also planning and looking forward at our
[1:42:49] our winter programming. Um last year we
[1:42:51] instituted the the volleyball the indoor
[1:42:54] volleyball uh co-ed uh big big big hit.
[1:42:57] So, we're looking to expand that even
[1:42:59] more uh this coming uh winter spring
[1:43:03] season. Um senior programming. So, our
[1:43:05] Madira Beach Social Club is still on its
[1:43:07] summer break. Um staff, we are
[1:43:09] finalizing the schedule and programming
[1:43:11] for the upcoming season. Um which our
[1:43:14] first uh get together for the season
[1:43:16] takes place September 14th.
[1:43:19] Uh child care, we just recently wrapped
[1:43:21] up another successful summer camp
[1:43:22] serving approximately 70 children each
[1:43:25] day. Um that program included daily
[1:43:27] field trips and larger weekly trips uh
[1:43:30] to places like the zoo, the aquarium,
[1:43:32] educational outings. Um our after school
[1:43:35] program uh is full for this season. So
[1:43:37] we are operating on a wait list. That
[1:43:38] program um it's limited by uh the space
[1:43:42] of our facility. We can only legally
[1:43:44] have so many children um in the rec
[1:43:47] center uh for after school care. So we
[1:43:49] are full. We have a wait list. Uh we are
[1:43:51] accepting uh for that. Um, special
[1:43:54] events. So, we are in the final planning
[1:43:56] stages for the 3rd annual Madiraa Beach
[1:43:58] Burger Week. Uh, that's taking place
[1:44:00] August 21st through the 30th, as you all
[1:44:02] know. Uh, 18 restaurants participating.
[1:44:06] Um,
[1:44:08] we have the burger bus taking place
[1:44:09] August 22nd. So, tickets are on sale for
[1:44:12] the burger bus if you are interested. We
[1:44:14] are going to three different
[1:44:14] restaurants.
[1:44:16] um on the bus is a tour of all different
[1:44:20] burger love and community fun. So, uh
[1:44:24] that should be a really good time. Um
[1:44:26] and then
[1:44:29] to back up even more, Village Friday is
[1:44:31] our burger week kickoff party as you all
[1:44:32] know. Um that'll start at 6:00 down at
[1:44:35] John's Pass featuring live music from
[1:44:36] the Crowns. Um we'll be down there
[1:44:38] handing out Burger Week passports. We
[1:44:40] have some Burger Week giveaway promo
[1:44:41] items. Um, we also have some Burger Week
[1:44:44] merchandise that is for sale in the city
[1:44:46] store. We will also have it down there
[1:44:48] at Village Friday for sale as well. And
[1:44:51] then we do also have Burger with the
[1:44:53] Board on August 26th at the Cambria
[1:44:55] Hotel. That's taking place from 12 to 2.
[1:44:58] That's where you guys are going to serve
[1:45:00] your burgers. And it's kind of a
[1:45:02] spin-off of Conversations with the
[1:45:03] mayor, but we're going to have a burger
[1:45:05] with the board. So, really excited about
[1:45:07] that. Um,
[1:45:10] next big event we have coming up for
[1:45:11] recreation wise is uh the 45th annual
[1:45:14] John Best Seafood Festival. Um, so we're
[1:45:18] we're in crunch time for that planning.
[1:45:21] Uh, that's going to be the 23rd, 24th,
[1:45:24] and 25th. Uh, vendor applications are
[1:45:26] still open through the end of August.
[1:45:29] Um, those can be found on johnspass
[1:45:31] seafoodfest.net.
[1:45:33] Um we are currently in the process of uh
[1:45:35] booking entertainment for the three
[1:45:36] stages. Um and we're also working on um
[1:45:41] any sponsors and securing those last
[1:45:43] minute partnerships. Um we have been
[1:45:45] working on a partnership with iHeart
[1:45:47] Media and JJ Taylor for the marketing of
[1:45:49] the festival. So hopefully that pans out
[1:45:51] well. Um, overall recreation is coming
[1:45:54] off of a very busy summer and looking
[1:45:56] forward to a strong uh fall event and
[1:45:58] programming schedule and we're excited
[1:46:00] about the upcoming events and the
[1:46:02] opportunities to provide our residents,
[1:46:04] visitors, and local businesses here in
[1:46:05] Madera Beach.
[1:46:07] >> Thank you, Max. That's awesome.
[1:46:09] » Thank you, Max. That's awesome.
[1:46:09] >> Any questions? We're good.
[1:46:10] » Any questions? We're good.
[1:46:10] >> Do we have any vegetarian burgers?
[1:46:13] » Do we have any vegetarian burgers?
[1:46:13] >> I have uh I have a shrimp burger.
[1:46:16] » I have uh I have a shrimp burger.
[1:46:16] >> Close.
[1:46:17] » Close.
[1:46:17] >> It's close.
[1:46:18] » It's close.
[1:46:18] >> Pescatarian.
[1:46:19] » Pescatarian.
[1:46:19] >> Pescatarian. Okay.
[1:46:22] » Pescatarian. Okay.
[1:46:22] I will uh I'll work on that though. All
[1:46:23] right. Thank you.
[1:46:27] » City manager,
[1:46:30] » uh just a reminder, strategic planning
[1:46:34] uh is August 21st, which is next Friday.
[1:46:38] Um John's Pass dredging project has been
[1:46:41] completed. Um and we are in contact with
[1:46:46] uh Florida Department of Transportation
[1:46:48] to figure out if they are completed with
[1:46:50] their removal of debris. Um it does not
[1:46:54] look like it is, but they may be
[1:46:56] completed. So we may have to go back
[1:46:58] into conversations with them on removing
[1:47:01] more. The sand is already coming back as
[1:47:04] you know. Um the snack shack
[1:47:06] restoration. Um right now we're working
[1:47:10] on the historic um des um designation.
[1:47:15] Uh we're going to try to do a few things
[1:47:18] in parallel to get the design the white
[1:47:23] uh the white box design uh completed as
[1:47:26] we're going through the historic
[1:47:29] designation.
[1:47:30] Um,
[1:47:33] area three, uh, drainage improvement. I
[1:47:36] believe Megan's going to come up and
[1:47:39] talk about that real quick. Thank you
[1:47:42] [snorts]
[1:47:47] » and Kitty Park.
[1:47:49] >> Good evening again, mayor and
[1:47:51] » Good evening again, mayor and
[1:47:51] commission. Um, area 3, they've finished
[1:47:53] the milling today. So, all of the roads
[1:47:56] have been mil. Um we will be doing our
[1:47:58] walkthrough tomorrow to create the final
[1:48:01] punch list um for items that need to
[1:48:03] still be completed. So um but the
[1:48:06] asphalt is down and it looks fantastic.
[1:48:10] And Tom and Kitty Stewart Park, we are
[1:48:12] working on finalizing the foundation
[1:48:14] plan for the restroom. The restroom is
[1:48:17] still in design. Not in design, I'm
[1:48:19] sorry. Production drawings have been
[1:48:21] approved. They're waiting for state
[1:48:22] stamp approval. I believe Mercy was the
[1:48:25] conversation we had last week.
[1:48:27] >> I believe that's correct.
[1:48:28] » I believe that's correct.
[1:48:28] >> Yes. So, it's it's it's in progress, but
[1:48:31] » Yes. So, it's it's it's in progress, but
[1:48:31] because it's coming from another state,
[1:48:32] it does have to make sure that the
[1:48:34] Florida state approval it's stamped and
[1:48:36] receives the FEMA approval and on all of
[1:48:39] our regulations. Um, so that is still in
[1:48:41] the works. We do, and you all have
[1:48:43] already approved the not to exceed with
[1:48:45] Keystone for the um not to exceed
[1:48:48] $500,000 for the park restoration. So we
[1:48:52] have been in talks with them about the
[1:48:54] foundation plan and they are we don't
[1:48:56] have the site plan finalized yet. So we
[1:48:59] haven't been able to receive a proposal
[1:49:02] from them but we have been actively
[1:49:04] working with them so they are aware. Um
[1:49:06] I am working on the landscaping plan
[1:49:09] that you all asked to receive. I have
[1:49:12] been a out of town um traveling a little
[1:49:15] bit these days and I'm still working on
[1:49:17] that. So I will have that for you for
[1:49:18] the workshop meeting.
[1:49:22] And then just an update on the paving.
[1:49:25] Um you all received a not so great news
[1:49:28] email from me yesterday regarding John's
[1:49:31] Pass Village.
[1:49:33] Um that is a unfortunate but the
[1:49:37] contractor is aware and they are going
[1:49:39] to fix um tomorrow we will be visiting
[1:49:41] every single one of the shops. Has it
[1:49:44] have has everyone received the email
[1:49:46] from me? Okay. So the issue is is the
[1:49:48] striping was incorrect. Um the only way
[1:49:51] for us to actually receive what we paid
[1:49:53] for is to mill and to repave those
[1:49:56] places or otherwise it would just be
[1:49:58] subpar and I'm not going to accept
[1:50:00] subpar. So um it will be we will mill
[1:50:04] Sunday night um one side of the road
[1:50:07] pave Monday morning and then the the
[1:50:09] next Monday night we will mill the other
[1:50:12] side pave Tuesday morning and we will
[1:50:15] stripe it. And the issue was is the
[1:50:17] angled parking. The striper
[1:50:20] did not double check his work. So it did
[1:50:24] not meet the minimum standards and we
[1:50:25] cannot accept that. And then Baypoint
[1:50:28] has been completed as well. So that has
[1:50:30] all been mil overlaid. So projects are
[1:50:34] moving right along.
[1:50:36] >> Thank you, Megan. Megan, I I have one
[1:50:38] » Thank you, Megan. Megan, I I have one
[1:50:38] question. Um the at Kitty Park the we
[1:50:42] call it a seaw wall, right? Even though
[1:50:45] >> a sand wall, seaw wall.
[1:50:46] » a sand wall, seaw wall.
[1:50:46] >> Yeah. So the cap is is that wood?
[1:50:49] » Yeah. So the cap is is that wood?
[1:50:49] >> It's recycled [clears throat] plastic.
[1:50:51] » It's recycled [clears throat] plastic.
[1:50:51] Yes.
[1:50:51] >> So it is going to survive the moisture
[1:50:55] » So it is going to survive the moisture
[1:50:55] and Yes, sir. heat and everything.
[1:50:57] >> That is what is on all of the docks that
[1:50:59] » That is what is on all of the docks that
[1:50:59] we have. That is also the stairs that
[1:51:01] are at Archbald bathrooms. That is what
[1:51:04] all of that is made out of.
[1:51:06] >> I see. Okay. Thank you.
[1:51:08] » I see. Okay. Thank you.
[1:51:08] >> You're welcome.
[1:51:09] » You're welcome.
[1:51:09] I'd make a statement that well of course
[1:51:11] I was just out there the other day
[1:51:14] but what you have in that first island
[1:51:17] as you come in is gorgeous. I mean it is
[1:51:20] all drought resistant.
[1:51:21] >> I would love to take that but that was
[1:51:23] » I would love to take that but that was
[1:51:23] not us. Catties actually planted that.
[1:51:26] Um so we with your we can leave that in.
[1:51:30] Um those are not typical plants that I
[1:51:33] would plant. the grasses um get a little
[1:51:35] bit too tall. So, they are over that 36
[1:51:38] in. So, they're over in the sight
[1:51:40] triangle. Plus, those grasses get they
[1:51:44] are pretty at first, but they are kind
[1:51:45] of a bear to maintain and they collect a
[1:51:48] lot of garbage. And then whenever you
[1:51:49] have to trim them down, I don't know if
[1:51:51] anybody's seen, but you have to cut them
[1:51:53] almost like a buzz cut. And in my
[1:51:57] professional opinion, they are not very
[1:51:59] pretty. Well, like I say, I I what
[1:52:02] you've done with the rest of the city is
[1:52:04] perfect. Very well done, and I'm I'm
[1:52:07] looking forward to what your
[1:52:09] recommendation is.
[1:52:11] >> Thank you.
[1:52:11] » Thank you.
[1:52:12] >> That's easiest to maintain and take care
[1:52:14] » That's easiest to maintain and take care
[1:52:14] of and drought resistant.
[1:52:16] >> We love that.
[1:52:18] » We love that.
[1:52:18] >> Thank you.
[1:52:19] » Thank you.
[1:52:19] >> Thank you, Megan. [clears throat]
[1:52:22] » Thank you, Megan. [clears throat]
[1:52:22] Um this week we started our interview
[1:52:25] process for the uh for the new RC
[1:52:28] department head. Uh we are hoping to
[1:52:32] have that selection by Friday or early
[1:52:35] next week and then start the
[1:52:38] negotiations to have that uh person come
[1:52:41] on in within a couple of weeks.
[1:52:46] >> Okay.
[1:52:47] » Okay.
[1:52:47] >> Awesome.
[1:52:47] » Awesome.
[1:52:47] >> That's all.
[1:52:48] » That's all.
[1:52:48] >> Thank you very much. Next on the agenda
[1:52:51] » Thank you very much. Next on the agenda
[1:52:51] is respond to public comment. We only
[1:52:53] had one public comment and it was a
[1:52:55] thank you. So, thank you Mr. Bellows for
[1:52:58] coming and giving a compliment to staff.
[1:53:00] They surely do deserve it.
[1:53:03] And it is 7:52.
[1:53:06] We are adjourned.