1 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:15,120 Hey, you probably seem like Doug drives. [laughter] 2 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:22,119 » All right, we've exited executive session and we'll resume normal session. 3 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:22,119 Amy, over to you, please. 4 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:27,640 Resolution 5 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:34,719 approving the payment of invoices for the Madison County Auditor. 6 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:37,040 » So moved. >> Second. 7 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:41,120 » First and a second. Any other discussion? 8 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:42,399 Hearing none. Roll call, please. >> Mr. Shay, 9 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:44,320 » yes. >> Dr. Sme, yes. 10 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:47,120 » Mr. Wallace, >> yes. 11 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:50,960 » A resolution increasing appropriations to the courthouse courthouse health 12 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:55,520 insurance expense line in the amount of $23,000. 13 00:00:52,879 --> 00:01:00,559 Second. Second. the first and a second. Any discussion? 14 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:03,359 There none. Roll call, please. >> Mr. Sh. 15 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:07,840 » Yes. >> Question. 16 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:12,080 » A resolution approving the AP Ohio annual aggravator registration 17 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:14,400 application and giving Rob the authority to sign that. 18 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:16,960 » So move. >> Second. 19 00:01:15,439 --> 00:01:20,880 » The first and a second. Any other discussion? 20 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:22,080 » None. Republics. >> Mr. Sh. 21 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:26,799 » Yes. >> Dr. Sne. Yes. Mr. WS. Yes. 22 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:31,280 » Resolution approving the Spalding's epoxy floor coding code for the Mass 23 00:01:29,119 --> 00:01:36,400 County Planning and Zoning Office. >> So moved. Second. 24 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:38,960 » First and a second. Any discussion? >> Hearing none. Roll call, please. 25 00:01:38,079 --> 00:01:40,079 » Mr. Sher, >> yes. 26 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:41,600 » Dr. Sme, >> yes. 27 00:01:40,479 --> 00:01:44,320 » Mr. Wallace. >> Yes. 28 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:48,680 » A resolution approving an increase in appropriations for vehicle acquisition. 29 00:01:49,386 --> 00:01:53,680 » [clears throat] [laughter] 30 00:01:51,439 --> 00:01:58,960 » Second and a second. Any other discussion? 31 00:01:57,200 --> 00:02:00,719 » Hearing none. Roll call, please. >> Mr. S. 32 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:02,960 » Yes. Dr. >> Yes. Mr. Wallace. 33 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:08,160 » Yes. >> Resolution approving the bid award for 34 00:02:04,719 --> 00:02:11,599 the Lewis Road over Springport Bridge project. Some 35 00:02:10,879 --> 00:02:13,760 move. >> Second. 36 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:18,239 » First and a second. Any other discussion? 37 00:02:15,920 --> 00:02:19,440 Hearing none. Roll call, please. >> Mr. Sha, 38 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:20,560 » yes. >> Dr. Sme, 39 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:22,319 » yes. >> Mr. Wallace, 40 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:26,400 » yes. >> A resolution approving travel for 41 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:32,080 Madison County Board of Elections. >> So moved. Second. The 42 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:34,640 » first in a second. Any other discussion? >> Hearing none. Roll call, please. 43 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:35,680 » Mr. Sh. >> Yes. 44 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:37,120 » Dr. Z. >> Yes. 45 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:39,519 » Mr. Walls. >> Yes. 46 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:42,800 » A resolution approving budget revisions to the Mass County Family and Children 47 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:47,440 First Council and Department of Family and Children. 48 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:52,800 » So moved. Second. First and the second and then the discussion 49 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:54,239 hearing. None for 12 minutes. >> Mr. 50 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:56,239 » Yes. >> Dr. 51 00:02:54,959 --> 00:03:02,360 » Yes. >> Yes. 52 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:02,360 » Thank you. 53 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:18,840 » Let's just check. >> Yeah. I don't know if that one 54 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:57,599 what they look like. It's interesting how 55 00:03:55,200 --> 00:04:02,439 we can come on except period of time 56 00:04:04,799 --> 00:04:08,302 that stress [clears throat] 57 00:04:08,319 --> 00:04:11,480 that happen. 58 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:33,720 I always program because you're locked in. 59 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:33,720 There's nothing 60 00:04:34,479 --> 00:04:37,479 right, 61 00:04:56,080 --> 00:05:00,320 » right? >> Hey, there's one table, 62 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:03,320 right? You're 63 00:05:16,368 --> 00:05:18,388 [clears throat] 64 00:05:21,608 --> 00:05:23,628 [clears throat] 65 00:05:28,639 --> 00:05:31,360 choosing 66 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:39,320 watch a lot of football this weekend. Oh yeah, 67 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:43,320 Wednesday 68 00:05:48,639 --> 00:05:51,639 Christmas. 69 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:28,400 Gentlemen, gentlemen up front, would you be so kind as to vacate for those 70 00:06:25,919 --> 00:06:33,960 gentlemen? >> Oh, I see. 71 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:33,960 » Not both of them. I guess one of you 72 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:41,720 » could you move please >> being 73 00:06:57,440 --> 00:07:03,319 thank you for coming in. Sure appreciate it. Thank you. Thanks for having us. 74 00:07:07,039 --> 00:07:14,000 Jason is the expert on FAA funding. So we'll gohead and make your presentation. 75 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:17,199 » Yeah. Very good. Yeah. What's happening? >> Yeah. I think it's been it's been three 76 00:07:15,759 --> 00:07:21,280 or four years since I came here at the airport before. Uh at that time we were 77 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:25,039 asking for the grant match for an FA funded project to completely reconstruct 78 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:28,960 a parallel taxi way. That project's obviously done and complete. Uh since 79 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:33,280 then the airport's done a couple other projects. We just finished last week uh 80 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:37,919 repaving all the aircraft parking areas, the apron that was done with the ODOT 81 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:41,680 aviation fund. So that's done. Um with that tax project, we also did all the 82 00:07:39,599 --> 00:07:46,240 tax lighting. So it's essentially a new airport as far as the runway, the taxi 83 00:07:44,479 --> 00:07:52,000 way, the paving, the lighting, all that that work is done. Um also earlier in 84 00:07:49,599 --> 00:07:57,840 the spring, we finished the paving using FAA funds for the next 10 unit T hanger. 85 00:07:55,840 --> 00:08:01,440 That's the picture there on the handout. So, the paving is done, ready to go to 86 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:06,960 build the next building that will house 10 aircraft. That's what we're here to 87 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:11,599 talk about today. Uh the design for that is underway. That's also funded by FA 88 00:08:09,039 --> 00:08:16,080 grant for the design. Uh that grant came about two months ago. So, we're off off 89 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:19,280 to working on that. Uh and we'll be ready to bid it when funding is 90 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:23,520 available. And that's really what we want to talk about today. Um, so last 91 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:28,319 time we were here, we were asking for that the grant match for a project that 92 00:08:25,919 --> 00:08:32,800 did not directly return revenue. It was a construction capital project, uh, a 93 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:36,640 pavement, but what we're talking about today is a a building project that will 94 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:42,240 will bring revenue to the airport, obvious to the county. Uh, so 10un 95 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:47,279 hanger, similar to the other 10 unit T hangers that are out there. Now, um, 96 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:52,000 just kind of go through this handout high level here. you know, estimated 97 00:08:48,959 --> 00:08:55,040 construction cost about 925,000 uh based on a project that we did a 98 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:59,040 couple months ago with Neil Armstrong Airport. 99 00:08:56,640 --> 00:09:05,279 A reminder, the FA grant program as we go into fiscal year 27, 100 00:09:01,519 --> 00:09:10,800 we anticipate 90% FAA, 5% state, no Aviation, and then 5% local. Uh so based 101 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:15,279 on that estimated cost, obviously we've not bid it yet. uh we expect a local 102 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:19,680 share of around 46,250 but again depending how the bids come 103 00:09:16,959 --> 00:09:24,560 in. Uh so the amount of money that the airport has available uh at the end of 104 00:09:22,399 --> 00:09:29,600 this month fiscal year 27 that starts October 1st uh they had their last year 105 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:36,000 of infrastructure build funds that was a 5-year uh program that ends at the end 106 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:41,519 of the month. So they'll have $137,000 available uh left in that program 107 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:46,640 federal share which with the state local matches with about 152,000 108 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:51,680 and then their FA entitlement funds that's the 150,000 per year that the 109 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:57,680 airport has for capital projects those have been rolled uh a little over two 110 00:09:54,160 --> 00:10:03,600 years you can see there's 419 603 fed that becomes 466 approximately 111 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:07,279 so the bottom line after October 1st First, the airport will have 112 00:10:04,560 --> 00:10:12,080 approximately $618,000 of grant funds with the state and local 113 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:17,279 matches available for the construction of the 10 unit T hanger. 114 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:23,120 So, obviously that's a little less than anticipated cost. The next next line 115 00:10:19,680 --> 00:10:28,160 there shows that about 306,000. Again, based on estimates, uh we won't 116 00:10:25,279 --> 00:10:33,839 have the bids until until next year, next spring. Um, so that's that's where 117 00:10:31,279 --> 00:10:36,560 we're at financially with this project. And then kind of to summarize the last 118 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:40,640 sentence there, you know, without additional funding, the airport's going 119 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:46,000 to have to roll funds at least one or two more years uh into the future to be 120 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:50,160 able to have the total the total package available. 121 00:10:47,839 --> 00:10:56,240 Um, so what we're proposing or asking is if it would be a 122 00:10:52,720 --> 00:11:00,640 potential to uh secure a loan uh to be able to build this project sooner and 123 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:05,839 then pay it back with 28 and 29 grant funds. Um, what that would do is allow 124 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:11,200 to be completed two year approximately two years earlier. Um, so on the second 125 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:14,640 page kind of there in the middle just kind of throwing some numbers at it. You 126 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:18,480 know, if we assume an occupancy of June 1st 28th, 127 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:24,560 knowing that they won't get the FA grants until late 27, typically we see 128 00:11:20,959 --> 00:11:27,760 grants in July, August. So, by the time we got the building 129 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:32,320 built with approximately 9 month lead time currently on building packages that 130 00:11:30,079 --> 00:11:35,760 we're seeing, I've assumed an occupancy of 6128. 131 00:11:34,399 --> 00:11:41,040 I've been told the rent will be projected to be 250 a month, 10 units. 132 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:45,920 So, ignore our fuel sales. Let's say it's full. I know there's some 133 00:11:42,560 --> 00:11:49,760 assumptions there, but 2500 a month. So over that 24 months of being able to to 134 00:11:48,079 --> 00:11:55,680 build it early if [clears throat] if funding's available, approximately 135 00:11:52,160 --> 00:12:01,040 60,000 again ignoring fuel sales, which is actually more than the total local 136 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:05,040 share required of 5% for the construction project. 137 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:07,839 Uh so what we're what we're saying there is that hopefully in that two years, 138 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:13,440 we'll be able to move quicker to construction. we could essentially pay 139 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:20,000 back uh in that two years both the loan and the local share to where moving 140 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:24,720 forward uh be 100% revenue or profit for the rent on the building. Uh and again 141 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:28,320 important to keep keep in mind that's an estimate. So 142 00:12:26,959 --> 00:12:32,480 kind of went through just the summary now. Um you know we're able to obtain 143 00:12:30,399 --> 00:12:37,600 loan commitment of a little over $300,000 again depending how the bids 144 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:44,160 come in. uh the the goal will be able to pay it back in 24 to 30 months with the 145 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:48,959 two 28 29 grants and then also in the revenue generated over that two years of 146 00:12:46,560 --> 00:12:54,399 earlier construction be able to also pay back at least or more than the local 147 00:12:51,680 --> 00:13:00,240 share of the entire project that point making at no cost to the county and then 148 00:12:56,959 --> 00:13:04,160 increased revenue thereafter. So that's kind of the high level summary of 149 00:13:01,839 --> 00:13:08,079 of where we're at. As of today, we're on hold on construction because of that 150 00:13:06,079 --> 00:13:14,000 shortfall. Just looking for a way to be able to expedite construction to have it 151 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:18,880 available to tenants to to move in and pay rent and buy fuel sales. And if 152 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:23,200 we're not able to move forward, uh we'll just have to roll funds at least one 153 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:27,279 year, maybe two, and then construct construct in the future. So, just wanted 154 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:30,959 to come in and talk about that. See if you had any questions or ideas on how we 155 00:13:29,519 --> 00:13:34,480 could potentially expedite this construction. 156 00:13:32,560 --> 00:13:39,600 um and then pay back. >> Are those uh 282.9 157 00:13:37,680 --> 00:13:44,480 grants guaranteed? >> That's a great question. Uh they it 158 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:49,519 depends on if Congress changes something. In my career, which is 159 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:56,800 getting pretty long, it's it's been there every year, but I can't say it's 160 00:13:52,320 --> 00:14:02,320 guaranteed. Um got entitlement funds. It's been $150,000 federal uh for more 161 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:07,120 than 15 years. There's been no changes to the program. I would not anticipate 162 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:11,839 it changing, but again, if Congress were to change something, that could change. 163 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:16,320 » Is there a big need for the 10 extra room? 164 00:14:13,519 --> 00:14:22,240 » They fill up pretty quickly. We had 10 new hangers. They would rent out almost 165 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:26,320 immediately. And the pilots who would go in there typically spend more on fuel 166 00:14:24,639 --> 00:14:31,600 than they spend on rent. So, you get not only the rent, but also the fuel sales. 167 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:35,199 So, it's a good one. And I've ignored the fuel sales. You know, it varies what 168 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:40,160 the profit would be. It's kind of hard to come up with a number, but that's a 169 00:14:37,199 --> 00:14:43,839 good point that not only is it the rent, it's the fuel sales. And it also looks 170 00:14:41,839 --> 00:14:46,639 good for the FA. You have additional based aircraft. That's something that 171 00:14:45,279 --> 00:14:50,399 they look at when they determine where funding goes is how many aircraft are at 172 00:14:48,399 --> 00:14:54,720 your airport. So, if we wanted to expand the runway in the future, make it longer 173 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:59,920 so to accommodate more commercial traffic. In fact, we would have a lot of 174 00:14:56,399 --> 00:15:03,920 activity there. now looks good to be a for future planning purposes. 175 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:06,480 » That's the biggest question I get is, you know, 176 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:12,240 » if I and I don't know anything about planes or aviation, but you know, for 177 00:15:09,199 --> 00:15:15,279 bigger planes to land in that area, >> right? 178 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:18,720 » Right. Yeah. Eventually, it would be nice to add another,000 ft to the runway 179 00:15:17,519 --> 00:15:21,760 because it could have >> Wasn't there a problem with the 180 00:15:19,839 --> 00:15:27,600 buildings being too close to the runway that's there now? Uh well the the 181 00:15:24,959 --> 00:15:32,160 terminal is a little close to them. We may still be able to expand the runway 182 00:15:30,079 --> 00:15:35,920 terminal where it is or they may pay the SA may offer to relocate the terminal at 183 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:40,480 some point. They've done that with some airports. 184 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:44,480 So that's a possibility too. >> So there is an avenue without building a 185 00:15:42,639 --> 00:15:45,600 whole new runway, >> right? 186 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:51,120 » Yes. >> Yeah, for sure. Um now you're currently 187 00:15:47,519 --> 00:15:56,399 at 4,000 ft. uh it can accommodate small corporate aircraft, corporate jets, u 188 00:15:53,600 --> 00:16:01,199 but really anything on the larger side would prefer 5,000 ft. It's kind of a 189 00:15:58,639 --> 00:16:06,880 magic number in aviation. Yeah, cuz when I when I was I asked that 190 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:11,120 question years ago, they somebody said, "Well, we'd have to build a new runway." 191 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:14,639 And that's not the case is what you're saying. 192 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:20,000 » Yeah. The current airport layout plan, which is a guiding document into the 193 00:16:16,959 --> 00:16:23,040 future, does not show any shift or relocation of the runway. 194 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:28,240 » That's good to know. >> Can you put larger planes down like just 195 00:16:26,079 --> 00:16:31,040 the weather has to be exactly perfect to land on that 4,000 something? 196 00:16:29,759 --> 00:16:35,360 » The weight, the fuel load, the temperature, all that dry. 197 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:38,480 » So, you can technically you can do it now, but 198 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:43,120 » you could got to be perfect. >> I've seen large golf string juice 4,000 199 00:16:40,399 --> 00:16:47,040 ft. So it it can be done under the right conditions, 200 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:51,040 » which I remember. [laughter] >> I've seen it done. So there was at least 201 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:53,759 one day it was okay. >> Yeah, 202 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:57,440 » and they they really want to get in there, of course. But 203 00:16:55,920 --> 00:17:01,279 » um >> I don't have a problem with uh doing 204 00:16:59,279 --> 00:17:03,680 this because I think the value we're going to get we're going to get paid 205 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:08,319 back hopefully. >> Yeah. So that's what I was going to ask 206 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:14,319 um on the payback. So, are you envisioning a loan from the county 207 00:17:11,360 --> 00:17:20,720 through the treasur's office with a with interest or are you looking more for 208 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:24,720 just the county to pay for it and then when the grant comes in be reimbured? 209 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:28,960 » The second one sounds better. >> I like the first one better. 210 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:32,720 » Two two things on. So, the FA won't pay for interest. So, they he would only get 211 00:17:31,039 --> 00:17:37,039 back whatever the construction belongs to. So, however that would work out 212 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:41,120 internally on interest, I'm not sure. The other thing I didn't hit on is with 213 00:17:39,039 --> 00:17:47,520 the grant for construction likely not being issued until July, August of 27. 214 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:52,720 And with that, right now, we're looking at 9 month lead time on these creep 215 00:17:49,360 --> 00:17:57,679 steel buildings. Uh the vast majority of the cost would not be incurred till 216 00:17:54,960 --> 00:18:03,200 calendar year 28. So, that helps from some sort of budgetary. I know a lot of 217 00:17:59,919 --> 00:18:07,760 times uh with these projects that cross fiscal years 218 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:11,039 um the agencies are able to kind of split that from a budgetary standpoint 219 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:14,640 say okay well I'll get this much this year we know the majority is going to be 220 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:19,360 in the next year but we want to grab some and then have the back fill on the 221 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:24,480 back end. So if that helps, uh the vast majority of this construction cost would 222 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:29,600 occur in calendar year 28 just due to timing of the FA grant coming late 27 223 00:18:27,919 --> 00:18:33,360 and then that approximate 9 months to get the building. Like I said, all the 224 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:36,960 paving, the grading, drainage is all done. We basically have a rectangle of 225 00:18:35,360 --> 00:18:42,320 dirt that we're ready to build this building inside the pavement, make the 226 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:46,880 connections, and be ready to go. So, >> so reimbursement to the general fund is 227 00:18:45,360 --> 00:18:52,400 the preferred route >> and and with the timing by the time we 228 00:18:49,039 --> 00:18:57,760 incur construction cost in 28 this fiscal year 28 grant that we show as the 229 00:18:54,960 --> 00:19:03,440 first payback variable may be available to where from a cash flow standpoint 230 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:07,200 it's not 306,000. It may be closer to the 140 because you may capture that 231 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:13,679 about the same time you owe the contractor the money. Uh so if that 232 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:20,240 helps as well, um the payback time may be closer to 12 or 14 months between 233 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:25,679 getting the 28 grant and then the 29 is the final payback and we can apply for 234 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:30,799 that 29 the day the first day of fiscal year 29. That likely won't come until 235 00:19:27,679 --> 00:19:33,840 later in fiscal year 29th, but can definitely expedite the 236 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:39,280 applications. Then we'll be at the mercy dev bay to get the grants 237 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:42,960 » and the local share amount the 46,250 that will be returned as well. You 238 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:46,559 anticipate that being returned? >> The way the way that it's kind of 239 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:53,440 spelled out here is that's essentially returned in the revenue from occupancy 240 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:57,440 and if if it were to be fully occupied we would have that paid back in less 241 00:19:54,960 --> 00:20:01,360 than two years. Yeah, that paid point for the county 242 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:05,280 » that point it would be all direct revenue or profit for the 243 00:20:03,903 --> 00:20:10,559 [clears throat] rest of the duration of the building. 244 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:15,840 » Is the 250 monthly rent is that comparable to other facilities? I mean 245 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:20,480 given the cost of the aircraft I mean it sounds slow to you know 246 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:26,400 » it does. Now I believe your others are 225 or 250 235 ones. So then we were 247 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:30,799 projecting by the time we got to this beef bill, it would likely be escalated 248 00:20:28,799 --> 00:20:36,159 to 250 is where that number came from. >> We do periodically compare the rents to 249 00:20:34,159 --> 00:20:40,480 other comparable airports and we're usually right in the reasonable zone. 250 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:44,080 where they you know being it's bigger in a big city 251 00:20:42,159 --> 00:20:48,320 like Columbus or something like that or also the size of the hanger the large 252 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:52,559 box hangers will typically be several hundred a month but for the small tea 253 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:58,799 hangers that that's reasonable based on what we're seeing at other airports 254 00:20:56,400 --> 00:21:03,280 but that I guess to probably take what you're thinking further without the epic 255 00:21:00,559 --> 00:21:07,280 grant program there's no way to cash this this structure it just doesn't work 256 00:21:05,360 --> 00:21:12,480 even a 40-year payback >> but when you can it, you know, with the 257 00:21:09,039 --> 00:21:18,080 95 and five, you spend $1 locally, you get 19 back from FA State, then it 258 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:23,760 actually can can make sense financially. But to just go build it with 100% local 259 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:27,200 funds, you can't charge enough rent to to make it work, unfortunately. 260 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:31,200 » But it sounds like the demand is there. So, what what would they go if 261 00:21:29,679 --> 00:21:36,000 » and I think you guys are in a good spot to be able to pull base aircraft out of 262 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:42,400 Columbus because it could be slightly cheaper and less congestion for pilots. 263 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:47,440 Um, I mean, you guys are so close that I can definitely see pulling some based 264 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:52,960 aircraft from the Columbus area out this way. And that's part of the business 265 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:58,000 model for the smaller county airports is that by offering fuel and hangers 266 00:21:55,760 --> 00:22:01,760 somewhat more reasonably than they would be in an urban environment. We do get 267 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:06,799 some tracker in those places that our pilots can fly out from Columbus to fill 268 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:10,400 their tanks here. uh they wouldn't do that if we charge as much as they did 269 00:22:08,799 --> 00:22:13,520 for Columbus or something like that. It's the same way to Angus. We're a 270 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:18,240 little bit more reasonable than they would be in Columbus or Cincinnati. And 271 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:22,720 that's why we get some of that traffic. Not all of the planes that are based 272 00:22:20,559 --> 00:22:26,960 here are necessarily county residents. Some of those are people who live in 273 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:31,039 dorms, but it's worthwhile for them to fly out here for more affordable gas and 274 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:35,039 hanger storage. >> Are you guys full now? 275 00:22:33,120 --> 00:22:39,440 I think we're full except for maybe just a couple of the older structures that 276 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:43,039 don't have doors on. Those aren't as popular. So, just about everything else 277 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:47,520 is where you usually when an opening comes 278 00:22:46,159 --> 00:22:50,520 up, it usually gets stored pretty quickly. 279 00:22:52,320 --> 00:23:00,080 » Very good. >> I have no issues. 280 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:05,200 » Very good. We get our own barbecue restaurant. [clears throat] 281 00:23:02,159 --> 00:23:08,880 » That' be nice. >> Any questions on this project or 282 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:12,720 anything we've been doing the last few years or anything I can answer while I'm 283 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:16,000 here? >> I don't think I have any questions. 284 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:16,960 Okay. Appreciate you gentlemen coming in. 285 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:21,960 » Thank you. >> Thank you. Appreciate your time. Thank 286 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:21,960 you. 287 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:41,200 Right. Anybody anything for open session? 288 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:44,080 » Something. >> Oh, sure. 289 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:48,640 » Uh, so last Thursday was our farmland preservation plan kickoff meeting and it 290 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:54,559 was well attended. I thought it went very well. I just want to give some of 291 00:23:51,039 --> 00:23:59,360 the highlights from it. Uh Amanda took great notes at the bottom, but basically 292 00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:04,320 what I kind of liked about it was uh communities that participate in the 293 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:11,039 planning are more likely to achieve the results they want to see. And I really 294 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:14,080 like that message to the group. Um the consultant asked, you know, what are 295 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:18,480 some of the questions you're getting from your constituents? 296 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:24,240 And you know some example questions are the rate of growth from plain city and 297 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:30,799 can schools have the capacity to handle this growth. What does water and sewer 298 00:24:27,360 --> 00:24:34,320 expansion mean to the county? Um transmission lines a little bit 299 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:38,480 discussion on that. Sometimes residents gets letters before the council of 300 00:24:35,919 --> 00:24:43,679 trustees do and then just discussing how can we as a county township get this 301 00:24:41,679 --> 00:24:48,880 information so we can help residents understand when they get these letters. 302 00:24:46,559 --> 00:24:52,559 um and this kind of general discuss I think 303 00:24:50,799 --> 00:24:57,200 you can understand one thing I wanted you had that other section and one 304 00:24:55,520 --> 00:25:00,799 comment that was made is we want to make sure we don't exclude most of the 305 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:05,520 population and I'm like well if I were to read this in the minutes what does 306 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:10,720 that mean exclude most of the population and the conversation was talking about 307 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:15,919 this as a quality of life issue because not everybody has a farmland or lives on 308 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:21,520 a farm or involved with farming but with people are affected by this plan because 309 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:25,520 of quality of life. So, one thing we think about going forward is making sure 310 00:25:23,279 --> 00:25:31,440 we don't unintentionally disengage people because we call it a 311 00:25:27,360 --> 00:25:35,440 farmland preservation plan process. Um, so I can kind of talk about quality of 312 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:38,720 life and then the metrics for measuring success was an interesting discussion 313 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:43,520 because it's like how do we know if we're going in the direction that we 314 00:25:40,159 --> 00:25:46,400 want to go. So like one example was our um GBP [clears throat] 315 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:52,799 for agriculture which is an economic term that I don't really know about but 316 00:25:49,360 --> 00:25:56,480 and economic vitality and our a retailers and seed dealers things like 317 00:25:55,120 --> 00:26:00,640 that the industries that support agriculture are they thriving are they 318 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:04,480 doing well? So just kind of discussing what will a successful plan look like 319 00:26:03,120 --> 00:26:10,400 and how do we measure that in five years. So it's a really good uh engaged 320 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:14,320 discussion. The consultant kind of said to me afterwards like, "Huh, this is the 321 00:26:12,799 --> 00:26:18,240 kind of group that does want to work on some issues. I can kind of coach you 322 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:24,080 about how to do some sub meetings to kind of get to anything deeper." Um, so 323 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:27,520 they're very pleased with the engagement that happened. I know a couple of you 324 00:26:26,159 --> 00:26:33,039 were there. You have anything you want to add to that? But that's just the high 325 00:26:29,360 --> 00:26:36,400 level kick up. >> Well, that that pretty well recaps it. I 326 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:39,679 thought it went well. It was good to see as you said a number of people from the 327 00:26:37,919 --> 00:26:43,600 community, different backgrounds, different industries there to engage in 328 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:47,320 the process. No, I thought the first meeting went very well 329 00:26:47,360 --> 00:26:50,679 than you thought. 330 00:26:53,283 --> 00:26:55,303 [laughter] 331 00:26:56,799 --> 00:27:01,440 » Yeah, appreciate that. Anything else, folks? 332 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:06,159 » Oh, this Thursday is our customer appreciation day after water county 333 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:09,919 engineers building. It does call for rain right now, but I think that's only 334 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:16,918 in the morning. So, please come out in the afternoon and six o'cst. 335 00:27:14,898 --> 00:27:16,918 [clears throat] 336 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:33,080 We [clears throat] can't do that. >> All right. Very good, 337 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:33,080 » ladies. Gentlemen, anything else? 338 00:27:33,120 --> 00:27:37,000 » Second. Meeting adjourns.