[1:05] And that should make everything go.
>> And
[1:09] » yeah,
>> I could take the Whenever you're ready
[1:11] to start, I will bring over the
applicant.
[1:14] » Thank you.
[1:20] our position.
[1:25] » Are you now getting started?
>> Yep.
[1:28] » Okay.
Okay. So, uh welcome back. Room is
[1:33] empty. I understand there are people.
Um my name is William.
[1:39] co-chair
of community committee community
[1:44] appearance
field to my right and associated my
[1:49] left.
Uh and what we try to do is help steer
[1:53] people who may or may need it in some
cases may not need it or may not think
[1:57] they need it uh towards some better
looking projects. So first thing uh
[2:04] let's consider that the call to order
and going right to applications. The
[2:09] first one is 128 Samson Rock Drive
which is a cycling application
[2:19] unmanned redemption center. So I guess
I'm kind of curious to know what that
[2:23] is.
[2:27] » Sure. Hi. Uh good evening. Thanks for
having me uh as a panelist this evening.
[2:31] I'm happy to discuss the Clink program.
Um so uh um Kelly Hubby for the record
[2:37] uh director of brand delivery for Clink.
We have been operating in the state of
[2:42] Maine for over 20 years. We've been
operating in New York State for 10. Um
[2:46] and the premise of our program is to
simplify the traditional redemption
[2:50] experience for the consumer. um allowing
an additional modality to the
[2:55] traditional reverse vending machine or
um going to a a traditional bottle
[3:00] redemption center. So, our program
focuses on a bagdrop uh presentation
[3:05] whereby the consumer is able to um
redeem all of their containers that
[3:10] they've purchased at any retailer in the
state. It's not exclusivized to those
[3:15] that were purchased at Stop and Shop. Uh
we accept any container that was covered
[3:20] under the Connecticut state bottle bill.
Glass, plastic, aluminum. There's no
[3:24] need to sort, no need to count.
Everything goes in one um standard
[3:28] 13gallon drawstring kitchen trash bag.
Uh we do sell clink bags at cost, which
[3:34] are the most affordable trash bags, but
we do allow the consumer to bring their
[3:38] own 13gallon kitchen trash bag if they
so choose.
[3:42] Um the consumer creates an account. They
can either do that uh via an app, they
[3:47] can do it via the web. Um they can get a
physical card if they don't have
[3:52] technical prowess or they just don't
like to do things on the phone. Uh or
[3:56] for folks that are maybe not as
technologically savvy, um you can do a
[4:00] physical card right inside the store.
You can sign yourself up and the store
[4:04] personnel are happy to assist with that.
You can also call our customer service
[4:08] team and we can mail you a card and set
you up that way. Um, so there's a number
[4:12] of ways to simplify the experience of
signing up. Um, thereafter, the consumer
[4:17] simply prints their bag tags at a kiosk
inside any of the live stores that we're
[4:22] currently in. Um, as I said, we're in 15
locations currently and we're scaling
[4:27] into all 80 locations for Stop and Shop
across the state of Connecticut.
[4:32] Um, once the consumer has their bag of
redeemables full, they'll put their
[4:37] personalized bag tag sticker on it and
simply pull up to our redemption drop
[4:41] station located in the parking lot, scan
the bag. That unlocks the window. They
[4:46] place the whole bag inside. Within a
couple of business days, all of those
[4:50] containers are processed through our
state-of-the-art technology, which is a
[4:54] barcode scan of every single container
in the bag. And for every item in the
[4:58] bag that's a Connecticut deposit
eligible item, the funds are credited to
[5:01] a Clink account that lives virtually on
the kiosk. Um the consumer has the
[5:06] option of printing out a a cash out
redemption ticket anytime they go into
[5:11] the store. Um they can save the funds. A
lot of folks save them for Christmas
[5:15] shopping or holiday gatherings. Um other
people take out the money every time
[5:19] they go shopping and take a few dollars
off their grocery purchase. they are
[5:24] able I they were they are able to get
cash back if they prefer. They're also
[5:28] able to remove those um the credit for
those funds from their grocery purchase.
[5:33] Um now our standalone station um it's a
green solution so it's completely
[5:38] off-rid. Basically we bring in our drop
station and place it in the parking lot.
[5:43] Uh we do utilize existing parking
spaces. Uh for this location it would be
[5:48] four parking spots that were utilized.
three for the station itself and one as
[5:53] an access point. Um, for this
application, we would be located, if
[5:58] you're looking down on the store, um, to
the left side, kind of over in the
[6:03] corner, adjacent to some fencing and
some tree cover.
[6:06] The station's made of 100% recycled
material. The walls are made of a new
[6:11] building material called Eidora, which
is made from recycled plastic bottles.
[6:15] All of the aluminum, structural aluminum
is recycled aluminum. Um and the entire
[6:20] thing runs off of solar and wind
exclusively. Uh so it does not require
[6:24] any trenching shore power or anything of
the sort. Um and we are able to move it
[6:31] fairly simply if um you know the
determined location poses any type of
[6:36] problems. Um but when we look at placing
these location these these stations in
[6:40] the parking lot uh we look uh for areas
that are less traffic dense or that are
[6:45] you know relatively out of the way. We
also look at um aesthetics for the store
[6:50] um and for the community. Um I sent over
this morning and I don't know if anybody
[6:56] uh had an opportunity to look, but some
additional design um renderings that um
[7:02] are less uh we'll call it brand heavy.
Um our traditional branding is kind of
[7:06] loud. It's a little bit um kind of in
your face, but we have some more muted
[7:11] branding that uh we've found that some
of the communities in Connecticut
[7:14] prefer. Um, and we're also happy to do a
custom design based on feedback from the
[7:21] committee and the commission.
Um, if I'm able to share my screen, I'm
[7:26] happy to show those other designs.
>> Yes, you can.
[7:30] » Okay.
[7:35] Oops, that's the wrong thing. Um, can
you see the screen?
[7:41] » Yes,
>> all right. So, we have um this is this
[7:46] is kind of our traditional alternate
branding with the brick and beige um
[7:50] look. I know that certain stop and shops
go with this brick and beige color. Um
[7:56] we also have this more of a off-white
color. I know we did this one
[8:00] specifically for Berlin. Um and then the
stop and shop in Madison based on the
[8:04] Google images um that I've looked at um
has more of that grayish blue. And so we
[8:10] could obviously do this grayish blue
with the brick look um that complements
[8:16] um the existing grocery store. Uh we can
change the signage, modify it to suit um
[8:24] you know welcome the committee's
feedback on on both um our our intent
[8:30] and the practicality of it and the
design.
[8:41] Uh I have a question about location.
>> Of course,
[8:47] » you have put it in a roadway
uh which
[8:53] which there'll be cars going through
that roadway when somebody's at the
[8:59] clink station. Uh what's
with So there's going to be quite a few
[9:05] pedestrians with cars going through
there at at the same time. How's that
[9:09] going to work?
>> Of course. So the station itself is um
[9:14] is 8 ft wide and 8 ft high. So your
traditional parking space is is 18 ft.
[9:21] So this is only coming out into the
parking space about halfway. Um, and
[9:27] that allows us to place concrete
ballards still inside of the parking
[9:32] lines. So, it allows for a safe access
point for pedestrians between the
[9:36] ballards and the front of the station
itself. Um, while not impeding the
[9:42] travel aisles. Um, there's typically
where we place the stations, it's not
[9:47] always heavily utilized parking, so
folks have the ability to pull into an
[9:52] adjacent parking spot if they so choose.
Um, but honestly what we typically find
[9:56] is the bag drop process itself is just a
scan open and drop. Most folks simply
[10:04] pull their car up in front of the
ballards, hop out, scan their bag, and
[10:08] move on to their parking spot for their
shopping trip. Um, the entire bag drop
[10:12] process from putting the car in park to
put in the car and drive again takes
[10:17] about 15 to 20 seconds.
Could
[10:23] you could you could you repeat if you
don't mind uh repeat the process of drop
[10:29] off and redemption?
>> Of course. So ahead of time the consumer
[10:34] will fill their bag at their house. Tie
it
[10:37] » every standard kitchen size bag.
>> That's correct. Yep. Yep. 13gon
[10:42] drawstring kitchen trash bag. Mhm.
>> And then what we encourage folks to do
[10:47] is, you know, when they're setting up
their account or when they're in the
[10:51] store, whenever they buy new bags, they
print themselves out bag tags at the
[10:55] kiosk that is inside the store. So up in
the front of the store, there will be a
[11:00] clink kiosk. It's typically adjacent to
the service desk area or somewhere in
[11:05] the checkout or front end area of the
store. That's where
[11:09] » I'm sorry,
>> the tags then will identify.
[11:13] » That's correct. They print out their bag
tags there and that's also where they'll
[11:17] go to print a cash out ticket or a
withdrawal receipt that they can turn in
[11:21] at any cashier or at the service desk.
Um, so they'll print their bags ahead of
[11:26] time, print their bag tags ahead of
time, place it on their bag, put the bag
[11:30] in the trunk, drive down to the stop and
shop, and then they simply get out of
[11:35] the car, get their bag, scan the bag
tag, that unlocks the window, they place
[11:40] the whole bag inside, and they're done.
So you essentially have to have your bag
[11:45] tags prepared. Like you would go one
week or one day print out tags to tag
[11:51] your bags so you can't just jump and
jump out and drop it
[11:56] » because you have to go into the store to
print your tag.
[11:58] » Correct. We do recommend that people
print a few ahead of time so that they
[12:02] have them just for simplicity, but we
also have folks that have gotten to the
[12:06] store with their bags, realize they
don't have any tags, they park, they go
[12:09] in, they do their shopping first. While
they're inside, they print their tags.
[12:13] Then they come out and tag their tags.
>> Yeah. Okay.
[12:17] » So, after I'm just curious. I know this
isn't our perview, but I'm just curious
[12:21] how this all works. So, th this this
structure gets filled with bags, right?
[12:28] Inside.
>> That's correct.
[12:30] » And someone comes along or a group of
people come along and take them
[12:35] » and comes each one individually and scan
the bottles.
[12:41] and and register that the that that scan
that person's scan and then puts the
[12:47] money in the account. Right. So So the
individual who drops off the can is
[12:52] reliant on the people on the accuracy of
the people who are doing the work
[12:57] » inside. So it's it's all it's all
machines. So the way it works at the
[13:01] processing center is um the bag is is
taken off of a cart off the truck. The
[13:06] bag tag is then scanned again to
associate the containers that are going
[13:10] to come through the scanner next with
that person's account. The bag is opened
[13:14] up and all the containers are emptied
out onto a recirculator device. Um,
[13:19] basically it aligns all of the cans and
bottles in a single file line on a
[13:23] narrow conveyor belt and it goes at high
speed through a camera array. It has
[13:28] eight different camera lenses on it. It
captures every barcode on every
[13:32] container as it's going past the camera
array. And then it uses um technology
[13:39] and pneumatic pressure to sort the
material by type. So it knows the
[13:44] barcode from say a Budweiser aluminum
can to a Poland spring plastic water
[13:49] bottle. And then as it's moving on down
the conveyor, based on the timing and
[13:53] the pressure, um it uses that pneumatic
air pressure to shoot the can or bottle
[13:58] down the specific pathway to bring it to
a hopper where it can then be um
[14:05] condensed and bailed um to go back to
the commodities market. So, um, because
[14:10] we recycle at a foodgrade quality level,
it allows the recycled material to go
[14:16] back to the commodities market for its
highest and best use, which is to be
[14:20] used um, to turn into more bottles and
cans, as opposed to getting down, which
[14:25] is typically what we see with
traditional curbside recycling
[14:29] modalities, uh, where the containers
tend to get, um, contaminated with
[14:34] detergents and grease and oils and so on
and so forth. So we make sure that we
[14:40] are doing everything we can to extend
the life of that recycled material.
[14:45] » That sounds great. But so so the person
who drops off their cans is reliant on
[14:49] the accuracy of whoever or the machine.
So they have to trust that what they're
[14:54] getting back in cash is reflective of
what they dropped off.
[14:58] » Um they do. Yes. Um, I will tell you
we've had a lot of people that that have
[15:02] the same concern and that have tested us
simply by counting the containers in
[15:07] their bag and then waiting to see what
they get credited. Um, we are able to
[15:13] um, if somebody calls in with questions,
we can tell them exactly what was in
[15:18] their bag. We can tell them how many of
this can or that can or that bottle. And
[15:22] in the event that they had an item in
the bag that maybe came across the
[15:27] border from New York or from Mass, if
it's an identifiable red line container,
[15:32] they wouldn't get credit for that item
and we can explain to them why. Um, you
[15:36] know, similarly, there's all kinds of
products coming to market regularly and
[15:41] unfortunately some of these initiators
of deposit are not great about
[15:45] communicating ahead of time that there's
a new barcode in the market that is
[15:49] covered under the Connecticut
legislature. So, we give um when someone
[15:53] calls and they ask about it, that
prompts us to do some research. And if
[15:57] we find that that is a new container, we
add that barcode to our UPC database and
[16:01] we retroactively credit everybody that's
had that container in their bag.
[16:06] » Okay. Interesting. It is interesting.
What
[16:11] happens when Well, never mind. No
as well, Ron. Exactly.
[16:18] At least I understand. Right.
>> All you do is you tag a bag system the
[16:22] system gives you for however it's
counted
[16:26] » and if you're really concerned
>> you count your own and then you can
[16:29] question.
>> Correct.
[16:30] » Which is not
[16:34] a lot.
>> What's good also is that people are just
[16:36] literally driving by. So you have the
parking spaces the stop shop are pretty
[16:40] wide. I think they're like 10 feet. So
here are four spots. You've got 40 feet.
[16:44] So basically have a 40 foot long
parallel parking space. could come up,
[16:49] scan their thing, boom, throw it in the
door, they're out of the way. I
[16:52] personally don't have any concern.
>> What happens where you
[16:57] planning and zoning will express any
question if they have it? It's really
[17:00] their fill.
>> Who comes and services this for some
[17:02] reason the customer scans their code and
the window doesn't open.
[17:06] » So, we have two uh full-time brand
ambassadors that are in the market um
[17:11] you know, 40 plus hours a week. Um they
regularly service the stations. they go
[17:16] they clean all customerf facing touch
points they um ensure that all the doors
[17:22] are functioning properly. Um we do have
the ability to remotely reboot the
[17:27] system if a concern is reported to us.
We also have both internal and external
[17:33] uh CCTV where we monitor bag volumes so
we know you know if the station's
[17:39] getting full we can send our truck out
to pick up the bags. um you know, if we
[17:44] see that um there's been bags left
outside or something, we can call uh one
[17:50] of our team members to have them come
take care of that. It's very rare that
[17:54] we see bags left outside because um you
know, they a could get stolen and and b
[17:59] people, you know, want to have the
security of knowing that they've they've
[18:02] placed their bag in the station and it's
secure.
[18:05] » How often do these get picked up?
>> Uh typically daily, but it's based on
[18:10] volume. We do have some higher volume
locations that are being picked up in
[18:14] the in the Bristol and Southernington
area sometimes two to three times daily
[18:17] currently.
>> How many are are in Connecticut?
[18:21] » Currently 15. And we have nine other
locations that are fully permitted that
[18:26] we're going to be launching between now
and the end of the year.
[18:29] » Any in the shoreline area? Any our
surrounding towns or are they in like I
[18:33] know and Southernington and East Haven?
>> So we're in East Haven. We're in
[18:38] Fairfield.
Um we're going to be going into two in
[18:42] Newington, Manchester, Winstead, North
Kanan,
[18:46] um Colchester, Wallingford,
Ngat,
[18:53] and then you know we originally we've
been in in places like Simsbury,
[18:57] Bristol, Southernington. We've been
there for over a year now. Um, and you
[19:01] know, one of one of my most interesting
factoids as far as a case study is uh
[19:06] the Simsbury market, which you know, you
you may know it's a the Simsbury Avon is
[19:11] a fairly affluent area of Connecticut
and um the redemption rates that as far
[19:16] as cans going through the store uh
year-over-year from traditional reverse
[19:21] vending machines to the Clink program
has improved over 40%. So, you know, for
[19:26] a lot of people, it's not necessarily
about the money, but it's about doing
[19:30] the right thing by the planet. And then,
you know, uh kind of
[19:35] the consequence of that is by by their
wallet, you know, cuz people don't
[19:39] realize how quickly those dimes add up
until you start actually redeeming your
[19:42] containers regularly.
>> So, will the traditional machines that
[19:46] say stop and shop will be eliminated?
>> They will. Yes. There's a phase in
[19:51] period so that we're not just kind of
springing it on the consumer. Uh we
[19:55] provide a 30-day notice that we're going
to be transitioning to the Clink
[19:59] program. We open the Clink program. We
have a brand ambassador presence that
[20:04] does uh full days from Thursday through
Monday um to help the public sign up and
[20:10] get everybody uh ready to use the
program. And then we close the bottle
[20:14] rooms the following week. And we still
have that brand ambassador presence uh
[20:18] for that following long weekend. So it's
a two-week initial roll out. And then
[20:23] thereafter we do what we call pop-up
tableabling events whereby we schedule
[20:28] ahead of time and put a brand ambassador
back in these local stores. Um, and then
[20:32] we publicize it via social media to let
anybody know that has questions or wants
[20:37] to sign up their grandma or what have
you to come on down and see us while we
[20:41] have uh brand staff on site at the stop
and shop.
[20:45] » How soon does the cash get uh put into
their u their wallets as a group?
[20:50] » Yep. So, it's basically a function of of
the timing between when they dropped the
[20:55] bag off to when the truck comes and
picks it up. So, if they dropped off a
[21:00] bag at 5:00 p.m. on a Monday and the
truck had been there to pick up at 400
[21:04] p.m. on a Monday, the truck's probably
not going to be there again until
[21:07] Tuesday and then they'll get their
credit typically on Wednesday. Once the
[21:11] bags get brought back to the processing
center, they're processed right away.
[21:16] » So, I'd like to move on to the container
uh aesthetic. So, this is an aluminum.
[21:22] Probably looks just like a uh shipping
container or at least, but it's smooth.
[21:26] I see. And so, it's painted, I presume.
>> It's a vinyl.
[21:32] » It's It's vinyl. Yeah, vinyl wrap. Yeah.
And then what about the masonry on it?
[21:36] Is that also like a decal or
>> the the entire thing is a vinyl wrap?
[21:41] So, we just we just customize it based
on, you know, what the town's looking
[21:45] for for an aesthetic.
>> Yeah.
[21:48] I don't know how you guys feel about
that. I'd almost rather just be one big
[21:52] simple
innocuous color. What do you think?
[21:55] Rather than stick on a brick.
>> Oh, I don't know.
[21:59] » Now, can I ask
>> Do we have to cut him?
[22:02] » Can I ask a question? It's It's 8t high.
>> You said 8 ft wide, but it's 20 feet
[22:06] long. That's correct.
>> Wow.
[22:13] So, it's Oh, the graphic. It's a It's a
It's a It's a label.
[22:18] » Yeah. Sorry. The Cox is how long? 20
>> 20 ft long.
[22:21] » Okay. But it's four parking spaces.
There's a room. It's 20 ft. That's You
[22:25] have something at the one end, you said,
for axis. Okay, I got it.
[22:29] » Correct. Yeah. The station itself takes
up about Well, if you're telling me the
[22:33] parking spaces there are 10 ft wide,
then realistically we could probably get
[22:36] away with three parking spaces. I'm
guessing I don't know for sure, but I So
[22:40] they're they're wider than
regular
[22:43] » wider than normal. Okay.
>> Yeah. Next time I'm in market, I'm happy
[22:47] to take some measurements and and I can
reconfirm with the commission if if it
[22:51] would take three or four
>> in the main parking field. I think
[22:56] they're wider. They may not be on that
edge. So, who knows? You know, it's
[23:00] something else.
So, do you guys have a
[23:06] » You don't like
>> Yeah, I didn't say that. I just didn't
[23:11] Well,
>> I just thought that I don't think it's
[23:13] necessary to clink to be selling their
name
[23:18] to to the consumers. The consumers don't
care. It's Clink,
[23:21] » right? I mean, they're selling it to
some
[23:23] » Well, you say, "I'm going to drop it
off."
[23:26] » So, that would be a thing.
>> It would be a thing.
[23:30] » Yeah, it's fine. But I mean if you don't
like the background
[23:36] » I'd like the gray one myself too.
>> Oh
[23:43] » no no it's
>> so you want to keep the
[23:48] » I don't care. It doesn't matter. Well,
no, the brick is, you know, I brick.
[23:52] It's But
[23:56] » yeah, because I don't want to notice.
That's why that's what I'm thinking. And
[24:01] then everybody Everybody has different
things they'll notice. People like me
[24:04] will notice.
>> This is a different This is a different
[24:06] uh
>> I know you're not big.
[24:09] » I know. That's right. But I mean, in
general, it's you want to and
[24:14] » I pulled up Google Street View on my
phone a few minutes ago just to kind of
[24:17] see there's this kind of Well, this is
from a couple years ago, but it's kind
[24:22] of a messed up fence over there. It was.
And so, they'll be blocking some of
[24:26] that. It's kind of a gray fence that
>> there's there's the store.
[24:34] » And we're going to go right there. It's
going by the end where the tractor
[24:39] trailer's pulling and out in the back.
>> Yeah. Yeah.
[24:42] » Yeah. It's way over
that's the other place there's shade.
[24:47] » And just out of curiosity, you've been
to the site
[24:50] » and and somebody has monitored. You said
they go in low traffic areas and un like
[24:57] areas that are not parked. Someone
monitored
[25:01] » this specific location. No, we did not.
We just look for areas that are kind of
[25:05] away from the traditional traffic flow.
>> Uh I'm just going to share here back uh
[25:11] that location so everyone can see.
>> What about the same one?
[25:19] » Something
>> I think.
[25:22] Okay. So, one of our members feels
strongly that there should be some kind
[25:27] of banding at the bottom of the box. And
so we've all agreed that that those this
[25:31] one here with the uh where the panel is
>> the one here with the gray and then the
[25:38] dark brick at the bottom would be our
>> Is there is there any is there any uh uh
[25:46] option other than a brick pattern?
>> Uh I'm I'm I'm happy to to create some
[25:53] additional renderings. Do you have
something in mind?
[26:02] What else are you thinking?
>> We don't.
[26:05] It's just that the brick looks fake
brick. So if it was something in in
[26:10] keeping with the solid color of the rest
of the box, but it's the reason I like
[26:14] the darker brown bricks. It's roughly
the tone of building brick. So it
[26:19] » do we know it's going to be dead and
that's bright red.
[26:21] » Psychologically your brain will think of
it as sort of having some maybe visual
[26:25] relationship to the building. That's why
I like the term.
[26:27] » Okay.
>> That that was our thought as well. And
[26:30] that's why like um for the for the more
for the more cream colored branding that
[26:34] had a lighter beige brick and that
simply was that was done for Berlin and
[26:39] the Berlin store is more of an off-white
with that lighter beige brick whereas
[26:43] the Madison store is that darker gray
blue with the darker colored brick. Um,
[26:49] you know, I in in in the years that I've
been doing this, um, you know, people
[26:54] tend to prefer the brick look aesthetic
just because it matches the facade of
[26:58] the building a little bit more, but I'm
happy to do a a straight gray um, you
[27:03] know, and send that that over for for
the committee's consu consideration.
[27:09] » There's no r there's no rush on this
application
[27:12] if you want.
>> I mean, we could actually discuss this
[27:14] again next month if we
>> Okay. I think they're still waiting for
[27:18] some
other things.
[27:21] » Yes.
>> Meetings.
[27:26] » Do does somebody want to make a motion
on any is there any is there any other
[27:29] detail to this that we haven't discussed
just visually? Um Maria or
[27:34] » Well, there's um it's run by solar. So,
there's solar panels on top, right?
[27:38] » Yeah. I was I I do have a question about
the solar. Did somebody check out the
[27:44] actual sun in that area for solid
because there's trees. It's on the east
[27:48] side uh or west side actually and
it's to the south the south is to the
[27:55] left of it. So did somebody actually
figure out that solar is going to work
[28:00] good?
>> Yep. So we do um we look for uh
[28:04] obviously southern facing solar
exposure. Um, and the way the panels are
[28:09] mounted, they're 360°
um, you know, movable. So, we basically
[28:15] just angle them towards the south facing
sun.
[28:20] » Okay, good.
>> Okay,
[28:22] » we've only had one so far that we had to
move because it was not getting enough
[28:25] solar. Um, and that was one in
Southernington that was uh, beneath a
[28:30] big um, retaining wall, a large high
retaining wall with a number of mature
[28:35] trees above it. and we we had to move it
after about 6 months, but I don't have
[28:39] the expectation of that at this
location.
[28:43] » And you really So the wind is also a
necessary sort of component of this is
[28:47] another
>> um we're current we're currently still
[28:51] using the wind turbine. Um we've found
that it definitely does not generate as
[28:55] much power as the solar. Um so we may
look to get into instead of two solar
[29:01] panels, one wind turbine, um three solar
panels. But um at this point we we're
[29:07] not making that change.
>> I only ask that because if it was just
[29:11] uh you know some solar panels and it's
one less thing that makes it like
[29:14] something that came from the Jetsons,
you know.
[29:18] » I just think it would be a little
cleaner looking. That's all. That's the
[29:21] only reason, you know, not that it
matters much.
[29:24] » I mean, if it's a make or break, we we
could modify the station to not have the
[29:28] wind and potentially put the third
solar.
[29:31] » It absolutely has to function. And you
you'll find out when you get there
[29:34] whether you really have enough sun or
not, I'm sure. So,
[29:36] » y
>> did you want to make a motion?
[29:39] » Did you Wait, did you decide on the the
clink part? You were okay with the sun?
[29:42] » We're going to Yeah, we're
>> I just made sure because I lost it in my
[29:46] notes somewhere.
>> Okay.
[29:48] » Make a motion to approve with the uh
dark gray and darker brick facade.
[29:55] Um
and that's about it.
[30:00] » Is there a second? I'll second. Okay. Is
there any discussion?
[30:04] » I think we've had enough discussion,
right? You bet. Okay. All in favor? I.
[30:10] Good luck. Thank you.
>> Thank you very much. I appreciate the
[30:13] commission's time. Have a great evening.
[30:23] » For those that noticed, I never
[30:29] go over. Well, I take it versus
>> Do you want
[30:34] » Do you want your minutes?
>> What
[30:37] » minutes?
>> Uh, as to make a motion to the meeting.
[30:42] I thought the minutes were quite dead.
>> I I second.
[30:49] One second. Oh, I
thought the minutes were very good.
[30:55] Thank you.
>> I tried.
[31:04] I'll take for that.
[31:15] » Okay.
Any discussion? I do need a motion to
[31:19] approve.
>> Yes. Second.
[31:20] » Yes. Okay. All in favor? I
>> I Okay. Great.
[31:25] Um,
[31:28] » anybody have any comments?
[31:33] I do either other than I thought I saw
the towns coming back for the work
[31:37] downtown or did that just get pulled off
from this meeting or am I what was I
[31:41] looking at? No, you for the
No, there uh I think there was something
[31:47] about the
you wanted to know when they chose a
[31:53] brick maybe for the for the
>> No, I just when I read the agenda, maybe
[31:57] I just read it wrong. I probably did.
>> Yeah, there's only one thing. There's
[32:00] only one thing on the agenda.
>> The only thing and I just Well, the town
[32:03] does have to address that middle strip
across,
[32:06] » right?
>> That's the big one.
[32:08] » Yeah, exactly. I would imagine that some
discussion about that open that already.
[32:14] Okay. So, uh motion to motion was
second. All in favor? I I