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Call this meeting to order.

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Thank you for coming.

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We need to do the pledge of allegiance.

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>> I pledge allegiance to the flag of the

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United States of America, and to the

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republic for which it stands,

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one nation

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under God, indivisible, with liberty and

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justice for all.

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» I just want to make sure that all select

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board members are here this evening.

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Okay, consent agenda.

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AP warrants number 29 dated 4 13 2026.

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Motion to approve.

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>> I'll make a motion to approve the

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AP warrants and payroll registers.

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Oh, you haven't got payroll. I'm sorry.

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For the AP warrants.

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>> I'll second.

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>> All in favor?

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Payroll registers number 15 dated 4 9

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2026, number 16 dated 4 16 2026.

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>> So moved.

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>> Second.

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>> All in favor?

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I need a motion for acceptance of the

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minutes of the select board meeting of 4

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2026.

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>> So moved.

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>> Second.

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All in favor?

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Old business, um update for the

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postponed joint Oh, sorry.

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Joint budget advisory meeting.

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>> Yes, ma'am.

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>> Um so, we'll be scheduling the budget

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advisory meeting for May 4th.

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We delayed just so we're making sure

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that we're reviewing everything and have

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all the information.

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6:30 p.m.

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soon as possible.

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Uh the reason for delay is just trying

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to be as thorough as possible,

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>> but we'll try to get the information out

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so everybody can review it, please, on

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the committee.

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Um, and have the supplemental

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information for the public for this day.

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» Okay. Any questions or comments?

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um, we'll move on to update regarding

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bank reconciliations and audit.

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>> So, we talked about this at the last

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meeting, just providing an update, and

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uh, Patrick Dolan from the county had

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come in and offered some help in

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just reviewing uh, where we're at with

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journaling and make sure making sure

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that everything is good before we send a

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work for our last audit. He's come back

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in, we're wrapping up those journals,

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and we're preparing within the next week

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to be able to send stuff to the

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auditors. So, we're moving forward, and

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um, we'll continue to update as we have

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more progress.

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>> Seeing none, we'll move on to items of

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communication.

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Uh, town manager's report on expenses,

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revenues, and GA week 43 for FY 2015.

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you have the revenue and expense

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reports. Um,

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those show current um, for this week,

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uh, week 43.

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time. I'm still reviewing. Uh, when I

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provide it, um, but you'll see it in the

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expense and revenue sheets. There's just

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nothing specific to note at this time.

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>> Any questions or any thoughts?

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number two, ATV grant update.

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um, we're looking into doing the ATV

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grant, uh, same as last year uh, with

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the ATV club. This is just a

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pass-through grant.

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me know. It went well last year, and

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we're going to be repeating the same

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process this year.

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reviewing everything, I have no concerns

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in continuing to do it this year.

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>> And this is a pass-through money like it

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was before?

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reimbursed. Right?

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20 Park Street parcel 943-C, sale of

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foreclosed properties.

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meeting we talked about that we were

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going to be listing this property.

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agenda just to let the public know that

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we have had offers. Um any offers that

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have come in will be reviewed in

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executive session uh because it is a

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real estate matter, but we wanted to be

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one that we've already had offers and

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we'll be reviewing them.

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project.

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couple requests from a selectman or two

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about where we are with that project in

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the road widening up by the gravel pits

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um just right around the Barkwell

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estate.

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week and we'll have them back in by

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Monday. And then uh I'll move forward

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with an opening those on Monday and then

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looking like the second week of May that

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project will be complete.

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>> How'll you be able to do that quickly?

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>> You got any questions?

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number two, to decide whether the

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planning board should continue working

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on the mobile food vendor ordinance and

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on the mobile home rent stabilization

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ordinance.

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address those for us.

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>> Um I do want to alert you to one thing

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that we did not catch until tonight and

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that the mobile home

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ordinance that we have, it should really

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be titled mobile home park lot rent.

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rent stabilization for individual mobile

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homes, it is for the rental of the lot.

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protect those individuals renting within

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the mobile home parks we have here in

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Madison. We have two.

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many of those people living there on are

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on limited incomes and as you've

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probably read in the news that this is

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an issue happening across the state. Uh

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companies are coming in and buying up

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mobile home

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uh parks and renovating them and raising

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rents on them and uh this is has been a

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problem. And it's not just in Maine,

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it's across the country. So, we thought

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we would try and see what we could do

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about this, find out as much as we can

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and get this started. Um it kind of

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borders um planning board responsibility

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in terms of planning, but the other part

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really is select board because you would

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have to make multiple decisions

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regarding this.

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this ordinance would require one person

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to be in charge of it or a board to be

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in charge of it and that would come

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under you to appoint um people to do

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that. And of course, that would probably

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involve money. So, um cuz it would be

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too much probably for the CEO to handle.

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the last planning board meeting, um

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several citizens were very concerned, uh

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mostly thinking that this will if I

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interpreted them right, that this um we

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were trying to

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impact rentals of apartments, and we're

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not this has nothing to do with that.

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This is only for the mobile home parks

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to to protect the citizens that live in

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those parks.

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trailers.

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to kind of get ahead of the game, and we

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still have some questions about it.

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what you thought, and if you want the

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board to proceed with it, we would be

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happy to do so.

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you know, you you have a a draft for the

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future should you decide to go that

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route.

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that time.

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uh we worked on this last year,

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and it was brought back so we could work

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on it some more, and

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um there were several questions at the

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last meeting, but um

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I think we're pretty well set. Um there

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are still some questions to be answered,

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but this um was brought before us

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because of concerns for safety with some

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of these um being set up and on private

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property, and there was concerns for

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safety of children and other people, and

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also some food safety concerns, and as

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well as competition with our

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brick-and-mortar stores or restaurants

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that we have here in town. So, this

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ordinance covers that. It eliminates

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those um

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fundraising situations where you're

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having food, whether it's a VFW or a

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church or what have you.

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then that those are not those are

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exempted under this.

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um from KDCOG uh guided us a lot. She

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wrote the majority of this based on um

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her knowledge and what's happening

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around the state. And so again these are

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just drafts of what we've come up with

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and for you to consider. And if you'd

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like us to move forward on that as well

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then we will do so.

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We are definitely not ready to have a

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public hearing on this. You know, we

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would still need to gather some more

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information and and and Melanie was

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going to get back to us with some

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information regarding the mobile home

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park lot. But so on your copies put lot

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rent on there

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so that you know. Okay? Any questions?

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on the

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I would say separately

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um and do lot rent on the first.

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Um

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So

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if we motion to either

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have the planning board move forward

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with this or to

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>> Do you mind speaking up a little, Sally?

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I'm having a hard time hearing you

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sitting here.

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» Um what I'm

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Basically we need to vote on the lot

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rent prop uh

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project. So um whether we want to table

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it for now and visit it again later or

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we want to

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um con- have the planning board continue

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working on it at this point in time. Um

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and so if we

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Any questions? Any discussion with

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regard to it?

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So

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>> I think I'd make a motion to table. I

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think I'd make a motion to table it for

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right now.

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>> I would make a motion to table it for

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right now.

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>> I'll second that.

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>> Okay. Any further discussion?

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This point? All right. No.

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All in favor?

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Okay. Tabled for now.

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>> Thank you.

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>> You're welcome. Thank you.

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Um okay, so the So the um mobile vendor

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ordinance, again,

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um I'm I'm assuming that

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you are looking for guidance for us to

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either table or move forward. Okay.

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Do we have a motion?

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>> I would make a motion to move forward

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with that one.

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>> I'll second.

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>> Okay.

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Any questions? Discussions?

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Seeing none, all in favor?

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>> Oh, I'm sorry.

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>> Hold on.

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Yes, Chris.

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>> I I

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A little bit of clarity on the last

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motion, I guess. When you say you're

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tabling it, to to when?

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>> No.

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There's no set time.

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>> There's no set time. We're not ready to We're not ready to

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put that forward at this time.

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>> Okay.

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So this could go This could This could

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go on for months and months?

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>> It could come back, I'm sure. But I

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guess my If you don't mind, I'll share

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my feeling with you. My feeling is that

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um this is fairly new, and there are a

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few towns that are looking at it, and

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they're all doing research. Now, correct

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me if I'm wrong here. Um

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the experience with the state, sometimes

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they

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throw these things out, and they want us

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to react, and to do the research, and

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then they may some at some point go,

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"Oops, that's not the way we really

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wanted to do it." I would like to see

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someone,

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you know, maybe a couple of towns try it

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and see how it goes before we make a

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step like that. Um but obviously there's

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a lot of opposition to it. Um and I

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understand why they want it done,

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because there are people who are on

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limited incomes and living in mobile

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home parks. Um

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but I think at this this in time, I

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would rather see some experience with it

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before we go further. We've got the

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legwork done.

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>> Yeah.

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>> Thanks to the planning board.

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Um and Mary, do you agree with that? I

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mean, I don't want to have you do the work and

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then think that we're just going to

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>> Oh, no. No. That's why we wanted to send

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it to you and see what you thought.

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>> We thought that this would be

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>> Yeah.

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>> at least a plan. You know, Waterville

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already has some form of this and

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several towns are taking the step of

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um

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I've lost the word that I want.

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Moratorium.

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>> Okay.

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>> Um place a

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moratorium of 90 days, 100 and some days

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um on rental on on these lot rentals,

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preventing those rents from going up um

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while they do their research.

391
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>> Yes, sir. Do you have a question? Your

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name, please?

393
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>> So is it my clarification on tabling? So

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you guys are going to vote to have the

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planning board go back and look at it at

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a later time?

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>> If If it comes up, yeah.

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>> [clears throat]

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>> So they can't

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then uh researching this anymore to

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bring to you?

402
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>> Not at this time.

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And there is There are questions

404
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>> was was did the Did you guys ask them to

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do this originally?

406
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>> No.

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>> this the planning board on their own

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doing it?

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>> It It came up at the planning board

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level.

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>> Okay. So they can't re- look at it until

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you guys approve

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>> until we decide it that we want to look

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at it. What is your name? I'm sorry.

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>> Jeff. Jeff.

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>> Thank you. Oh, Jeff, I know you.

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>> I know.

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>> [clears throat]

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>> Okay. So is that good, Chris? You good?

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>> Yeah. I I just want to know

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>> Yeah.

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>> if it was to come up again, who's going

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to make the deciding factor on who's

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going to what they're going to do, I

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guess.

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>> It will be the board of selectmen.

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>> Who comes from here?

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>> And on the the mobile ordinance, the

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food ordinance, I guess I have a hard

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time with this because

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we the health The state of Maine has

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health inspectors.

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If If somebody's setting up shop in our

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town,

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they sell hot dogs or french fries at

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the corner,

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and there's an issue. Why don't we just

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Why don't we pick up a phone and call

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the state and let them investigate it?

440
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Why Why are we getting into

441
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trying to man that? Who's going to man

442
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that? Who's

443
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You know,

444
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yeah, we have a full-time code

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enforcement officer, but somebody rolls

446
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in on the weekend, like Jeff Watts said

447
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last planning board meeting, and sells

448
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it Saturday and Sunday, what are you

449
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going to track them down on Monday and

450
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see if they paid the fees to the town

451
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and see if it's already too late. So,

452
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why don't we let the state do their job

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and not not do that? I have a hard time

454
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with that, I guess.

455
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>> Okay. Do you have any Yes, ma'am.

456
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>> Sure.

457
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>> Um the whole point of this is safety,

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um as well as um

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kind of um

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preventing competition in a way,

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uh because we want our people here in

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town who have businesses to be

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successful and be able to sell. And the

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state only inspects for health safety,

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you know, within the the mobile,

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um within the wagon, whatever they are

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using. Okay? The other this way, the

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town knows who is selling and um

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and ensure that those vendors are are

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operating in a respectful way,

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um because we don't want someone setting

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up shop right next door to Fonzo's. All

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right? Um

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and then we have a new restaurant going

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in. Well, unless they get permission, we

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don't want someone selling up setting up

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a truck and competing with the

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restaurant.

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All right. So, but again, the churches

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and the VFW and other organizations who

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want to

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sell food or have meals to raise funds,

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that is not impacted. Those are not

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impacted by this ordinance. Cuz we just

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don't want, you know, if you think about

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it, do you want a vendor setting up on

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every corner in this town selling food

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or in neighborhoods causing traffic

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situations? And that's what was brought

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to us.

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That there were complaints because of

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traffic concerns and possibility of

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children getting hurt or hit trying to

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pull out of the, you know, parking

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space.

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>> Okay, so that's how it started with

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>> Mhm.

498
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>> There was concerns about the

499
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>> Yes. Yes. Now, we we just didn't come up

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with this one.

501
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Okay? And And just like the other one,

502
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we just didn't come up with it. That

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things happened and and there were

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complaints. So, but this was

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um

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uh

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You know, and the number of vendors are

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increasing here in town. So, you know,

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we want people to be able to sell their

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food and make a profit, but doing it in

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a respectful way so that everybody is

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treated equally.

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>> Thank you.

514
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>> Does that help?

515
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>> Yes, that

516
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>> Can I add a quick comment to that?

517
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>> Sure.

518
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>> What about all these Girl Scouts selling

519
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cookies everywhere and the kids are

520
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running everywhere?

521
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>> I know, but we don't

522
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>> Where's Where's the safety in that?

523
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>> We're not We don't control

524
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>> But that's what you're saying. You're

525
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saying safety.

526
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>> That's up to the leaders.

527
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>> But you're still saying safety.

528
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>> But they're not, you know,

529
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>> They're still selling the food, but

530
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>> They are, but that's unrelated to this.

531
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» Who's that

532
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Yes, Lisa. [snorts]

533
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>> Um I thought at the last planning board

534
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meeting they voted to table the mobile

535
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food vendor ordinance until August.

536
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Isn't that what Jay wanted to do and

537
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everybody agreed?

538
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>> Well, they can start working on it if

539
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the select board wanted us to continue

540
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working on it.

541
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>> Okay, cuz I did actually type up the

542
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questions like I said I would. Um there

543
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was four pages of them.

544
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It's eight pages of ordinance and

545
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overreaching

546
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control on the local level. It's not

547
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business friendly.

548
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It's just actually I think the number of

549
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vendors is actually decreasing from what

550
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I've seen.

551
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But um we're talking about a single

552
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digit number of people that this is

553
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targeting and they're already

554
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they're regulated by the state. They

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have to have a

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serve safe serve food license,

557
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inspection by the state, and a

558
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registration by the state.

559
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I just don't think that

560
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it's just too overreaching. I mean eight

561
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pages, it's going to be a lot on your

562
00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:53,600
CEO.

563
00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:55,640
I just don't know why you wouldn't just

564
00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:58,240
go with the guidance of the, you know,

565
00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:00,840
table it until August or a table it

566
00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:03,000
forget. I mean

567
00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:04,600
It's it's not if you don't think

568
00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:06,560
something is is, you know, the food

569
00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:07,920
isn't clean, don't go there. Go to

570
00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:09,760
McDonald's instead. I'm sure it's a lot

571
00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:11,040
cleaner.

572
00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:12,480
So, I just I would [clears throat]

573
00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:18,110
recommend that you just be done with it.

574
00:20:18,120 --> 00:20:19,480
» Thank you.

575
00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:21,720
Okay, so we have a motion

576
00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:23,554
to go forward with it and a second.

577
00:20:23,554 --> 00:20:24,400
[snorts]

578
00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:26,320
Any other comments?

579
00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:29,080
>> Can I ask clarify? Did you guys table it

580
00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:31,040
till August?

581
00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:32,680
Did you guys table it in the planning

582
00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:33,800
board till August?

583
00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:36,080
>> To work on it. Yes.

584
00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:40,640
>> Assuming that assuming you wanted the planning board to continue

585
00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:41,240
>> All right, good.

586
00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:42,680
>> It was contingent on your guys'

587
00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:43,400
decision.

588
00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:45,990
>> Okay.

589
00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:49,520
» So, again we have a motion to continue

590
00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:51,040
and a second.

591
00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:53,040
So, barring no other questions, all in

592
00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:54,880
favor.

593
00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:55,760
>> So,

594
00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:56,240
>> I'm sorry.

595
00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:58,520
>> Okay, I I guess I'm I I'm clear. So, if

596
00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:00,640
we go ahead if they go ahead with it,

597
00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:02,840
are you still putting it on hold until

598
00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:04,520
August or are you just going ahead with

599
00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:06,840
it now? I I'm unclear I don't what this

600
00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:06,960
is.

601
00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:08,880
>> We're we're We'll put it on hold. We'll

602
00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:10,960
wait until obviously could be they could

603
00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:13,360
decide to go with it in July. You know,

604
00:21:13,360 --> 00:21:15,000
it just depends.

605
00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:17,400
Okay, but there was no point in moving

606
00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:18,920
forward

607
00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:22,160
at all unless you wanted them to do

608
00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:22,640
that.

609
00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:23,240
>> Oh, okay.

610
00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:24,760
>> Because we're there's more information

611
00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:25,240
to be gathered.

612
00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:27,320
>> to say so it'll come back here anyway.

613
00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:27,800
>> Pardon?

614
00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:30,280
>> It will come back here anyway or no?

615
00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:33,360
>> It'll come back to us to the final piece

616
00:21:33,360 --> 00:21:33,680
or

617
00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:34,280
>> Yes.

618
00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:34,800
yeah.

619
00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:36,520
>> Because we would still have to hold a

620
00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:39,320
public hearing and then to get any

621
00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:40,800
challenges as necessary and eventually

622
00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:42,720
come to you.

623
00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:45,520
That goes to town meeting. That's good.

624
00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:48,640
All in favor? Oh, I'm sorry, Jeff.

625
00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:50,560
>> Just one word of caution.

626
00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:53,400
This is a really slippery slope.

627
00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:56,800
Uh this is how our bureaucracy is built.

628
00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:59,160
You've got eight pages of regulations.

629
00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:00,960
You don't have any person in authority

630
00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:03,480
to to do these regulations or observe

631
00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:06,000
these regulations to see to it that

632
00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:12,080
It is just the same as it was with the mobile home ordinance. Who's going to be in charge of that?

633
00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:13,760
Anytime you've got a public sector

634
00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:16,800
trying to exhibit more control over

635
00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:18,960
private enterprise, it makes me very

636
00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:21,910
nervous.

637
00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:24,910
» Thank you.

638
00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:27,470
Okay.

639
00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:31,190
So we need to vote.

640
00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:33,800
Okay, all in favor?

641
00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:34,960
I'm voting forward

642
00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:38,190
>> With that.

643
00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:40,640
» We can't hear back here.

644
00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:42,360
>> We need a vote. All in favor of moving

645
00:22:42,360 --> 00:22:44,120
forward with this

646
00:22:44,120 --> 00:22:49,790
on this level.

647
00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:51,000
» Closed.

648
00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:53,320
>> Okay, we don't have them. We don't have

649
00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:57,670
enough to vote, so it dies.

650
00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:01,870
Okay?

651
00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:03,280
Thank you, Mary, for your work.

652
00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:04,120
>> Thank you.

653
00:23:04,120 --> 00:23:05,800
>> you.

654
00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:06,960
>> Okay,

655
00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:11,190
moving on to citizen concerns.

656
00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:12,880
Anybody have any

657
00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:13,600
Randy.

658
00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:14,360
>> Hold hold hold.

659
00:23:14,360 --> 00:23:15,280
>> Oh, I'm sorry.

660
00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:17,400
>> Don't you have to say all opposed so you

661
00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:19,320
can think about it so it's all just

662
00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:21,240
friendly.

663
00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:24,310
>> All opposed.

664
00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:25,040
Okay.

665
00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:25,560
>> Okay, thank you.

666
00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:26,960
>> So moved. Thank you. Thank you for the

667
00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:28,240
reminder.

668
00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:30,480
Okay, so citizen concerns. Do we have

669
00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:32,040
any

670
00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:33,600
Randy?

671
00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:35,560
>> So I just wanted to remind everybody we

672
00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:38,320
have a candidate forum coming up in this

673
00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:41,200
room May 6th at 6:30.

674
00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:42,720
And we're hoping to have all five of our

675
00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:44,640
candidates.

676
00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:46,800
See how we can do on that.

677
00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:49,000
That'll be coming up.

678
00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:52,080
A second one that I wanted to bring up.

679
00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:54,790
Um

680
00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:56,520
I have an idea

681
00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:58,240
to run by you guys.

682
00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:02,350
One of the things I've observed

683
00:24:02,360 --> 00:24:05,000
through my time watching these meetings

684
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:08,600
and even the online stuff is that

685
00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:11,040
sometimes people will say

686
00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:12,480
they don't want to bring things up in

687
00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:14,480
citizens concern because they they they

688
00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:16,840
feel that they won't get addressed or

689
00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:18,320
they get dropped.

690
00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:19,840
So I wonder if there's some way we can

691
00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:22,720
come up with an idea to keep those on

692
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:23,960
the table.

693
00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:25,200
I don't know if we can put something

694
00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:27,840
maybe on the agenda that says status

695
00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:30,560
report or something like that. But just

696
00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:30,680
wanted

697
00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:31,800
>> That's a that's a

698
00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:33,400
good suggestion and I think that that is

699
00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:35,720
in our work

700
00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:37,720
study going forward.

701
00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:40,000
Okay, so we don't drive them.

702
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:41,640
>> I got I got a couple Sally.

703
00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:42,520
>> Yes, please.

704
00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:45,120
>> One is while Mary's here, where we at

705
00:24:45,120 --> 00:24:46,800
with the setback

706
00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:48,800
uh property setback ordinance? Are we

707
00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:50,160
going to be able to have that at the

708
00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:51,560
town meeting?

709
00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:52,200
>> Yes.

710
00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:53,760
>> We will. Okay, so we can go over it.

711
00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:57,760
>> Yes, the the Um, meeting is

712
00:24:57,760 --> 00:24:58,400
>> Tomorrow.

713
00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:00,320
thank you.

714
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:01,400
The meeting is tomorrow.

715
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:01,720
>> Okay.

716
00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:02,240
>> No.

717
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:03,240
it isn't.

718
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:05,440
>> The meeting is May 5th. We had to put it

719
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:07,400
off to make sure we had enough public

720
00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:08,000
notice.

721
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:08,360
>> Oh.

722
00:25:08,360 --> 00:25:11,120
>> So, it went in the newspaper. Um, it'll

723
00:25:11,120 --> 00:25:12,880
be posted again in the newspaper. It's

724
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:14,680
been posted in the town office. And when

725
00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:16,600
I get back to the office tonight, now

726
00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:18,400
that I have the meeting material for the

727
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:20,480
planning board, um, and all the

728
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:22,440
information to be able to send off to

729
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:24,120
everybody, it'll get sent out this

730
00:25:24,120 --> 00:25:25,280
evening.

731
00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:27,960
Um, so that the planning board, um,

732
00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:29,960
and the public, uh, can be notified

733
00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:31,080
about the meeting.

734
00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:32,440
>> Does that mean we're not having an extra

735
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:33,560
meeting tomorrow night, then?

736
00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:34,360
>> No.

737
00:25:34,360 --> 00:25:34,800
>> Got you.

738
00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:36,080
>> No, yes, tomorrow, no.

739
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:36,760
>> Okay.

740
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:38,800
>> So, this is a special meeting then for,

741
00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:39,880
uh, May

742
00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:40,960
whatever that date is.

743
00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:41,760
>> 5th.

744
00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:42,360
May 5th.

745
00:25:42,360 --> 00:25:43,080
>> May 5th.

746
00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:44,400
>> At 6:30.

747
00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:46,600
>> And And secondly, I read the minutes

748
00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:48,160
after you guys went into executive

749
00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:50,080
session the last meeting for the three

750
00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:51,600
executive sessions.

751
00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:53,320
I get it's a personnel matter. Not

752
00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:54,600
asking about

753
00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:56,880
the person. I'm asking about the

754
00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:58,440
position.

755
00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:00,840
What would been the reasoning

756
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:02,680
that you changed

757
00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:05,680
from termination to suspended,

758
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:08,240
uh, after it was done? Was this not ran

759
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:09,560
by the town attorney?

760
00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:12,120
>> It It was. And they And And we he gave

761
00:26:12,120 --> 00:26:14,040
advice us to make that change.

762
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:15,400
>> After or before happened?

763
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:17,080
>> After.

764
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,000
>> So, you didn't check before you made

765
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:20,200
those decisions?

766
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:23,360
>> We We did, but we misinterpreted his his

767
00:26:23,360 --> 00:26:24,280
instructions.

768
00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:25,080
>> Okay.

769
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:25,840
All right, thank you.

770
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:27,720
>> But we needed to correct it, so we did.

771
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:28,280
>> Thank you.

772
00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:30,240
>> You're welcome.

773
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:32,800
Anything else? Jeffrey?

774
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:34,800
>> I have a concern, not so much as the

775
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:38,080
road commissioner, but as a citizen.

776
00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:40,120
You know, th- this town has a meth

777
00:26:40,120 --> 00:26:42,160
clinic coming to it

778
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:43,480
real soon.

779
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:44,800
And

780
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:46,880
as to my knowledge, we have nothing in

781
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:49,960
place for homelessness

782
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:53,480
and homeless shelters in this town.

783
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:57,960
I think instead of wasting our time on

784
00:26:57,960 --> 00:26:59,600
mobile home lots,

785
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:01,760
food vendors, we should really think

786
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:04,760
ahead and get something in play, even if

787
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:06,840
we have to have a special town meeting,

788
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:09,560
to get something on the books before

789
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:11,520
this clinic comes to town.

790
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,080
And something that can be enforced.

791
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:16,720
>> Are you saying a review of the ordinance

792
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:17,240
or

793
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:18,920
>> Is there an ordinance, a homeless

794
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:19,480
ordinance?

795
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:20,840
>> Well, not a homeless ordinance. There's

796
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:22,120
no ordinance for that. There's no

797
00:27:22,120 --> 00:27:23,640
ordinance for that. And I don't believe

798
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:24,120
so.

799
00:27:24,120 --> 00:27:26,440
>> shelter ordinance. So, this making

800
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:29,080
everyone aware that this is coming and

801
00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:30,920
it's coming this summer.

802
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,600
So, you guys and the planning board may

803
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:36,320
want to think about moving forward and

804
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:38,760
getting something on the books so it can

805
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:40,920
be enforced. I know of a couple

806
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:43,320
instances right here in town

807
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:45,640
that have already happened and the

808
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,200
sheriff's department cannot do anything

809
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:50,120
about it

810
00:27:50,120 --> 00:27:55,190
because there's nothing in place.

811
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:56,640
So, it's something to think about, some

812
00:27:56,640 --> 00:28:01,070
words of thought.

813
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:02,360
» No, I agree. Thank you.

814
00:28:02,360 --> 00:28:04,560
>> And I know special town meetings, you

815
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:07,680
know, cost a little bit of money, but

816
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:09,640
if we have to wait 1 more year to move

817
00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:12,080
this forward after this place comes to

818
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:13,520
town,

819
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:19,470
it may be too late.

820
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:21,440
» So, I agree with you 100% Jeff, and I've

821
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:23,240
been working on something for the last 6

822
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:25,440
weeks or so, exactly of what you're

823
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:26,640
talking about that I was going to

824
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:30,200
present to the board and the people,

825
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:31,400
uh but it was going to be after the town

826
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:32,600
meeting.

827
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:33,880
But, uh there definitely needs to be

828
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,200
some guidelines in place for

829
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,240
exactly what you're talking about and in

830
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:39,320
then some,

831
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:40,520
and other things, but I was going to

832
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:41,920
bring it up

833
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:45,120
after the town meeting. So,

834
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:47,720
it is being thought of.

835
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:50,240
>> It definitely needs to be thought about,

836
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:52,280
for sure. You're right.

837
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:53,520
Fine, did you have something?

838
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:56,000
>> Uh well, yeah. I didn't realize John had

839
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:59,080
been working on stuff. I Yeah, I was hoping we were going to

840
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:00,840
immediately start working on some kind

841
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:02,440
some type of a provision for that

842
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:05,200
ordinance uh at the two two meetings ago

843
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:07,000
for the planning board, but we've been

844
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:08,680
Our agenda's been on the these other two

845
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:10,520
ordinances, so it would be nice to see

846
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:11,360
something happen there.

847
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:13,600
>> to be Yeah, to get it going. Yeah.

848
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:15,840
Anybody else?

849
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:17,120
>> Well, is this something the planning

850
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:18,600
board could start working on?

851
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:20,400
>> I don't think so.

852
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:21,160
I mean,

853
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:21,760
no.

854
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:22,080
What do you think?

855
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:23,800
>> Not really. That would have to come from

856
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:24,760
you.

857
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:27,200
But, if someone were to

858
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,600
build a shelter, then that would come to

859
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:30,960
us for site review.

860
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:33,680
>> Right. Exactly. Yeah.

861
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:34,960
>> What about campings?

862
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:36,380
>> Yeah, campings.

863
00:29:36,380 --> 00:29:37,200
>> [snorts]

864
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:38,640
>> That would be because that's

865
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:42,120
enforcement. That's something that the

866
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:45,160
uh select board would have to handle.

867
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:46,720
>> They have to handle the ordinance, not

868
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:48,160
you. Not the planning board.

869
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:48,840
>> Right.

870
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:51,480
>> Mary, would that also include um

871
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:53,080
people squatting on private land? Would

872
00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:55,000
that start at the select level and work

873
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:55,880
its way down to the planning

874
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:57,360
>> Yeah, because that has to do with

875
00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:59,800
enforce specifically with enforcement,

876
00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:01,440
because you know, I guess you know,

877
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:03,640
whatever the law enforcement

878
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:05,600
um whatever the sheriff's department is

879
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:08,200
doing, we don't

880
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:09,800
>> Well, I can speak to that.

881
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:11,960
>> idea. I mean, I think it's a good idea,

882
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:13,400
but really

883
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:14,960
>> If someone's squatting on private

884
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:16,360
property or if they're there without the

885
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:17,920
permission of the landowner, they can be

886
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,800
trespassed out by law, sheriff's office.

887
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:22,080
And they can be charged with tres-

888
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:24,720
criminal trespass if they don't leave.

889
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:26,600
>> What about sections of public property

890
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:29,160
that are kind of gray areas in between?

891
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:30,600
>> So, that would be harder, Ryan. We would

892
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:33,240
need some type of ordinance in place um

893
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:35,640
to to govern public property, but

894
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:37,760
private property, it's solely the

895
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:39,600
discretion of the landowner whether they

896
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:41,280
want to allow someone to camp there or

897
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:43,160
not?

898
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:46,630
>> Does it have to be posted?

899
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:49,560
» Ideally, it would be nice, but

900
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:52,000
if you were to call, if you had somebody

901
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:53,360
camped out on your lot and you were to

902
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:56,040
call us and say, "I

903
00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:57,640
didn't give this person permission to be

904
00:30:57,640 --> 00:30:59,320
there." We would say, "Okay, the

905
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:01,080
landowner has contacted us. You need to

906
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,120
leave." If they refuse at that point,

907
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:07,630
then they could be charged.

908
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:09,200
» My biggest concern is to avoid what we

909
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:10,560
want and what I want to avoid now that

910
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:11,960
most people are aware of down by the

911
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:14,720
river, public land, and it's just

912
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:15,960
ravaged.

913
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:17,680
>> Did I see another I'm sorry. Did I see

914
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:18,400
another hand?

915
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:20,840
>> Yes.

916
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:24,320
>> Is there a way to

917
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:26,800
speed up this process?

918
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:28,480
I think this is almost at an emergency

919
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:30,920
level, and this was actually brought up

920
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:32,400
back

921
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:34,440
January-February's meetings when we were

922
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:36,200
talking about that clinic and the

923
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:38,160
homelessness and the issues that come

924
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,320
with these encampments.

925
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:43,000
We're already almost 5 months

926
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:46,360
late on getting the jump on this.

927
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:48,640
It's going to be here if we just keep We

928
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:49,800
got to do this

929
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:51,120
planning board's got to do this or

930
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:53,000
someone's got to do that.

931
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:54,560
It's pretty important. We really should

932
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,760
be getting on this like yesterday.

933
00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:01,520
So, how can we do that?

934
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:04,440
Um I know when we've had a neighbor come

935
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:08,040
on our land and we've called

936
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:10,920
the police, we were told that you can't

937
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,160
do anything until you post it.

938
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:16,680
And yeah, and once we posted it, then we

939
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:18,280
had

940
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:20,320
the right and the deputy took care of

941
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:21,680
it, but

942
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:24,560
is MEW and everybody

943
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:27,240
all in that area going to have to put

944
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:29,040
no trespassing signs all over just to

945
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:31,120
cover their butts

946
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:33,280
on that first call?

947
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:34,760
>> Well, without an ordinance, maybe. Yeah,

948
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:37,520
you're right. You're right. So.

949
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:39,320
>> Would it make sense,

950
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:42,960
Cheyenne, to look into what other towns

951
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,400
have already like Waterville for example

952
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:46,600
when it comes to publicly owned

953
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:47,960
property?

954
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:49,600
>> Uh yeah, and this is something I've

955
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:52,240
already spoken with Melanie Weston about

956
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:53,720
um

957
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:56,160
when everything was going on

958
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,480
regarding the Acadia road about because

959
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:00,680
there was concerns coming in and we can

960
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,240
look um at whether what other towns are

961
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:04,400
doing

962
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:07,720
um and based on that see what um might

963
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:09,880
work for Madison.

964
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:10,800
I [clears throat] I would really think

965
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:12,280
that the select board would need to take

966
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:14,640
a vote uh to have the planning board

967
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:17,440
begin researching on that if you want to

968
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:19,520
move forward.

969
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:21,560
>> Do you think we should do that now?

970
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:22,600
>> Do you need motion?

971
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:23,000
>> Mhm.

972
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:24,920
>> Yes.

973
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:27,160
>> So, I'd make a motion that that we as

974
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:29,520
the select board uh advise the planning

975
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:32,760
board to begin research into this this

976
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:35,000
issue of uh trespassing on publicly

977
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:36,360
owned land

978
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:38,240
in light of the Methadone Clinic coming

979
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:39,160
to town.

980
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:40,760
>> I'll second it.

981
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:43,240
>> All in favor?

982
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:44,920
So, moved. Thank you guys.

983
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:45,480
>> Thank you.

984
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:47,040
very much.

985
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:50,480
>> Um okay, are there any other concerns?

986
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:51,680
>> I got one last one.

987
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:53,720
>> Okay. [laughter]

988
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:57,920
>> Okay. One other concern I have. I went to the

989
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:02,520
town office two Mondays ago at 11:31

990
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:05,400
I think it was and the door was locked.

991
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:06,040
>> I was there.

992
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:09,629
>> Would the board of selectmen

993
00:34:09,639 --> 00:34:12,520
consider keeping the town office open

994
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:14,103
the regular hours Monday through

995
00:34:14,103 --> 00:34:15,320
[clears throat] Friday?

996
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:17,360
>> Shyenne, do you want to We're looking at

997
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:18,960
that, right?

998
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:21,520
>> Uh right now as the interim town

999
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:24,879
manager, I am solely going with what was

1000
00:34:24,879 --> 00:34:28,240
there existing before me. Um

1001
00:34:28,240 --> 00:34:30,800
if the board wants to make a change, um

1002
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:33,639
then I will make sure that that happens.

1003
00:34:33,639 --> 00:34:35,320
Um but as for right now, I'm just

1004
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:37,440
covering in on the duties of town

1005
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:39,080
manager until the board makes a hiring

1006
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:40,159
decision.

1007
00:34:40,159 --> 00:34:41,960
>> How do you feel about that though? Just

1008
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:43,960
out Just out of curiosity.

1009
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:46,159
>> Um

1010
00:34:46,159 --> 00:34:49,080
personally, I know that the the staff

1011
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:50,240
do

1012
00:34:50,240 --> 00:34:53,550
um

1013
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:56,240
time when we meet. We had one um today

1014
00:34:56,240 --> 00:34:58,680
and then the staff took lunch um

1015
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:01,240
very briefly in that period.

1016
00:35:01,240 --> 00:35:03,560
Um but I also check in with staff every

1017
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:05,960
morning when I get there. Um so I would

1018
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:07,920
like to at this point in time where I'm

1019
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:09,840
just in interim leadership, leave that

1020
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:13,160
up to the board to make that decision.

1021
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:15,080
>> So right now you guys do it

1022
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:17,520
every week? Every Monday. Every Monday.

1023
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:19,160
>> 11:30 to 12:30?

1024
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:22,000
>> Would Would once a month seem feasible

1025
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:23,720
to do?

1026
00:35:23,720 --> 00:35:26,120
>> I I believe that um

1027
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:29,160
once a month used to be um what was done

1028
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:30,040
prior.

1029
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:33,600
>> Um but the staff now is different.

1030
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:34,400
>> The it

1031
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:35,000
>> You

1032
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:35,720
>> Well, if Cathy

1033
00:35:35,720 --> 00:35:37,800
>> Yes, yes, years ago but I mean I I

1034
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:39,040
haven't been here that long so I don't

1035
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:40,760
know what's changed but

1036
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:42,960
>> It used to be and it used to be before

1037
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:45,040
work in the morning is what it was and

1038
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:47,360
was once a month. I'm just asking. I

1039
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:48,200
mean

1040
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:50,200
>> Yeah, I believe it was 7:00, wasn't it?

1041
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:51,240
>> Wasn't it 7:00?

1042
00:35:51,240 --> 00:35:52,800
>> We did so that we could open the doors

1043
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:56,320
at 7:30. That's what we used to do. But

1044
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:57,680
I don't want to go, you know, just

1045
00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:00,160
because we used to do it doesn't always

1046
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:01,840
mean that's the way it needs to be but

1047
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:04,120
I'm just asking if even once a month

1048
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:06,600
would be something that

1049
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:08,360
you think would work.

1050
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:11,640
>> I I I think it would just based off of

1051
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:14,440
what I'm doing in the interim leadership

1052
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:15,960
which is going in and checking in with

1053
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,520
each individual staff member every day.

1054
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:19,560
Um

1055
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:21,680
so that seems to be

1056
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:25,600
productive and moving forward. Um

1057
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:27,400
because everybody's on the same page

1058
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:28,440
thing in the morning.

1059
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:28,840
>> Right.

1060
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:30,520
>> Um so

1061
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:33,600
I'm comfortable either way.

1062
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:34,800
I [clears throat] know the public has

1063
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:37,440
feedback to the office being closed for

1064
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:38,640
the hour.

1065
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:40,160
Um

1066
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:42,040
so

1067
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:43,445
do with that information as

1068
00:36:43,445 --> 00:36:44,160
>> [laughter]

1069
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:45,400
>> as you will.

1070
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:47,840
>> What would be the likelihood they could

1071
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:50,480
would come in and do it prior

1072
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:51,880
to work?

1073
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:53,680
What is the likelihood that that would

1074
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:55,240
happen?

1075
00:36:55,240 --> 00:36:56,840
I'm just I'm just asking. I mean I don't

1076
00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:56,960
know if

1077
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:58,640
>> I I think that's a discussion that we

1078
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:01,520
could have with the staff. This is also

1079
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:03,320
something that, you know, we can

1080
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:05,480
rediscuss once the town manager has been

1081
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:07,720
hired.

1082
00:37:07,720 --> 00:37:09,480
Then that leadership will be able to

1083
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:11,400
provide you feedback on the direction

1084
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:14,440
that they would like to go in.

1085
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:16,840
Um but for right now you can

1086
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:19,360
make a decision because the posting for

1087
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:21,200
town manager ends on the 14th.

1088
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:21,880
>> That's right.

1089
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:24,400
>> Um and then you'll be doing interviews.

1090
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:26,920
So that's coming up really quickly. But

1091
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:28,440
for right now I'm touching base with

1092
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:31,160
staff every day.

1093
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:33,120
>> And you've already had Well, no.

1094
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:34,080
You've just finished this week.

1095
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:38,830
>> That's just this week.

1096
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:41,280
» Okay, a couple more. Yes, Lisa.

1097
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:42,960
>> I brought this up once before.

1098
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:44,320
>> Yep, I remember.

1099
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:47,200
>> I actually took

1100
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:50,400
my lunch hours, four of them, and sat

1101
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:52,400
across from the door to watch cuz I

1102
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:54,360
wanted to know if I was being a jerk by

1103
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:56,160
saying, "Geez, you really shouldn't lock

1104
00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:58,480
the door for an hour every Monday in the

1105
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:00,200
middle of the day."

1106
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:02,200
So in the notes that I took while I was

1107
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:04,880
eating my sandwich in my car,

1108
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:06,880
there were about 10 people within that

1109
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:09,600
hour for each of the four times that I

1110
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:12,960
sat there. So over those four hours,

1111
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:15,240
there were 40 people that could not get

1112
00:38:15,240 --> 00:38:17,440
into the town office. So I wasn't being

1113
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:19,120
the weenie.

1114
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:22,400
I just wanted to make sure that by me

1115
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:24,800
bringing it up in public, you know, the

1116
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:26,960
town office is there for the people to

1117
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:28,400
do business.

1118
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:30,280
If they're public servants, I don't know

1119
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:31,880
if that's the politically correct term

1120
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:33,880
these days, but it's there for the

1121
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:35,720
residents and the taxpayers and the

1122
00:38:35,720 --> 00:38:37,760
people to do business. And

1123
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:40,320
I for one, I that's when I take my lunch

1124
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:42,440
and I I go there often and sometimes I

1125
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:44,120
just forget and I'm like,

1126
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:44,800
>> Yeah.

1127
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:45,720
>> Where's lunch?

1128
00:38:45,720 --> 00:38:46,240
>> Yeah.

1129
00:38:46,240 --> 00:38:48,640
>> It's really it's not serving any people

1130
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:51,800
in the town to do that. So,

1131
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:53,720
you know, I get I get the whole staff

1132
00:38:53,720 --> 00:38:56,120
meeting thing, but it really should be

1133
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:57,560
done first thing in the morning and

1134
00:38:57,560 --> 00:38:59,000
everybody's right there. If you have an

1135
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,520
issue, walk to somebody's desk. Go see

1136
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:03,240
what they need, you know?

1137
00:39:03,240 --> 00:39:03,400
>> you.

1138
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:04,840
>> Don't lock the door in the middle of the

1139
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:05,360
day.

1140
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:07,000
>> Thank you. Yes.

1141
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:10,200
>> I think why back when it was changed and

1142
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:12,560
if you correct me if I'm wrong, it was

1143
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:14,960
if we get there at 7:00,

1144
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:17,560
most people do clock in till 7:30, so we

1145
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:20,320
were having to pay a half hour overtime.

1146
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:22,200
So, that's where I think it was starting

1147
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:25,400
to get into the actual work day and

1148
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:27,480
where better was kind of the midday when

1149
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:29,680
everybody was at lunch. We could take it

1150
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:31,640
a little bit before lunch and then it

1151
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:34,000
wasn't going to interfere too much. And

1152
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:36,840
I think that's why it was basically

1153
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:38,640
moved to the later time.

1154
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:40,600
>> Thank you.

1155
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:42,520
Anybody else have any Yes.

1156
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:44,600
>> I I can say that the one thing that I

1157
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:46,040
have had um

1158
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:49,320
for feedback from other office employees

1159
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:52,200
would be like Monday really um

1160
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:54,120
maybe isn't the best day. Uh just

1161
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:55,760
thinking of like our finance officer

1162
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:57,440
who's trying to do payroll and the

1163
00:39:57,440 --> 00:39:59,160
warrant. Um

1164
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:00,840
it's kind of a crunch day and a busy

1165
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:02,600
day.

1166
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:03,480
So,

1167
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:06,760
maybe change the day of the week to

1168
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:09,160
for our staff meeting.

1169
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:10,320
>> What are your thoughts? Do you want to

1170
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:11,680
vote on this or do you want us to just

1171
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:14,520
wait and see how it resolves itself once

1172
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:15,480
we receive

1173
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:17,840
>> direction.

1174
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:18,920
>> Okay.

1175
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:20,640
Do you want to make a motion?

1176
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:21,480
>> I make a [clears throat] motion that we

1177
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:23,960
do away with these these Monday meetings

1178
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:25,840
until at least until we have a permanent

1179
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:28,640
town manager name.

1180
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:29,800
>> Second.

1181
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:31,600
>> All in favor?

1182
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:32,440
>> Any discussion?

1183
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:36,430
I'm sorry.

1184
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:40,150
Okay. All in favor?

1185
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:41,240
So moved.

1186
00:40:41,240 --> 00:40:42,120
Thank you, guys.

1187
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:44,600
>> Thank you.

1188
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:45,600
>> Yes.

1189
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:46,760
>> All.

1190
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:49,040
Quick comment. Um

1191
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:51,120
I've done some research and I've brought

1192
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:53,160
this up before about the price of my

1193
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:55,320
double my double wide the value of it

1194
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:56,280
increasing.

1195
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:56,440
>> Yeah.

1196
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:58,240
>> It doubled.

1197
00:40:58,240 --> 00:41:01,400
And doing some research, I found out if

1198
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:03,560
I put wheels beside of my

1199
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:04,880
double wide,

1200
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:06,600
it is now camper.

1201
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:07,160
>> Oh.

1202
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:09,040
>> And the money and there's less taxes on

1203
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:09,800
it.

1204
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:11,000
>> If you put wheels on under

1205
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:12,520
>> If I put wheels on it, yeah. It is now

1206
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:14,880
considered a mobile home or a camper.

1207
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:15,640
>> Hm.

1208
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:19,120
>> Now, in this research, I found out these

1209
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:21,920
people are living in their campers

1210
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:24,160
on private land.

1211
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:26,960
Who's collecting tax on the dwellings?

1212
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:28,360
Anybody in code enforcement? Anybody

1213
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:30,400
going around and saying, "Hey, this is a

1214
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:32,320
home."

1215
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:35,360
You're not getting excise tax on this.

1216
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:36,880
You're not getting property tax on it

1217
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:40,080
because it's temporary.

1218
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:42,120
There's a bunch of them around here.

1219
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:43,480
I can count five on the way here every

1220
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:45,640
day.

1221
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:47,320
That might want to be that's an extra

1222
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:48,720
stream of income.

1223
00:41:48,720 --> 00:41:50,640
We're talking about rent

1224
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:53,280
whatever rent moratorium. These people

1225
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:54,720
ain't paying nothing.

1226
00:41:54,720 --> 00:41:56,000
>> True.

1227
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:58,120
>> I mean, like I said, if I put

1228
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:00,560
tires next to my double wide, it is now

1229
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:02,120
mobile.

1230
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:03,440
>> Well, then.

1231
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:05,360
>> So, I'm just throwing that out there

1232
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:07,640
that who's actually actually checking

1233
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:08,120
this stuff?

1234
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:08,480
>> Yeah.

1235
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:09,800
>> That goes back towards your homes and

1236
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:10,600
campers, too.

1237
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:12,200
>> Yeah, I'm going to look into that as

1238
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:12,440
well.

1239
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:15,080
>> night. And that one

1240
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:17,360
>> I'll ask Shirley if she's ever run into

1241
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:19,080
this, too.

1242
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:20,320
>> Who? You can ask who?

1243
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:22,160
>> It's kind of always been a thing that

1244
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:23,560
you know that

1245
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:26,040
if they have a camper, you can go out,

1246
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:27,800
but your tax assessor is the one that

1247
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:29,880
would have to go out and assess it. Do

1248
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:32,120
you always know where people are that

1249
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:34,360
are actually living in those campers?

1250
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:36,240
Not necessarily.

1251
00:42:36,240 --> 00:42:37,320
Um

1252
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:39,840
if they already if they register it to

1253
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:41,560
go on the road, then they have paid

1254
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:43,680
excise tax, so therefore they don't pay

1255
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:45,760
property tax on them.

1256
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:46,600
So

1257
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:47,840
>> What if it's been there four or five

1258
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:49,120
years?

1259
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:51,080
>> Right, and we Right, exactly, but I'm

1260
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:56,760
just saying it's hard for the tax assessor doesn't necessarily get

1261
00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:59,400
notification that there's campers here.

1262
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:01,640
You know what I mean? Because it's

1263
00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:02,200
What's that?

1264
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:03,480
>> We have a code enforcement officer that

1265
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:05,160
rides around, don't we?

1266
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:06,040
>> Yeah, but

1267
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:07,920
>> Because see at the right now there's a

1268
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:10,160
law being changed on the books

1269
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:11,880
that campers will be charged by the

1270
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:13,360
foot,

1271
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:16,400
not by the value.

1272
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:18,160
So that's going to change the whole ball

1273
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:19,960
of wax if someone goes that route.

1274
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:21,480
>> Mhm.

1275
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:22,800
>> Interesting.

1276
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:24,080
>> I mean, you can bring it up to Shirley

1277
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:25,760
and just see what she has for it. I

1278
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:27,040
mean, I don't know if it's happened in

1279
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:28,400
other towns.

1280
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:30,320
She It's usually it's a tax I mean, it's

1281
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:32,240
kind of a tax assessor thing because

1282
00:43:32,240 --> 00:43:34,280
it's

1283
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:35,200
I know.

1284
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:36,960
But

1285
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:38,040
I don't know. I don't know what her

1286
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:41,995
answer will be, but like if they don't register it, then

1287
00:43:41,995 --> 00:43:42,120
>> [clears throat]

1288
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:44,160
>> they don't pay excise taxes. They are

1289
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:46,640
supposed to pay property tax, but it's

1290
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:48,640
just one of those that kind of get

1291
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:49,920
missed, I mean.

1292
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:51,360
>> I'd say check with Shirley.

1293
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:52,200
>> Yeah.

1294
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:53,680
>> Check with Check with her and just bring

1295
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:55,600
it back for the next meeting.

1296
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:56,840
We can discuss it further then.

1297
00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:57,480
>> Thank you.

1298
00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:00,800
Thank you for bringing it up.

1299
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:02,240
Anything else? Yes, ma'am.

1300
00:44:02,240 --> 00:44:03,120
>> It's a perfect segue into

1301
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:04,640
>> I mean, your name, please?

1302
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:05,080
>> Excuse me.

1303
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:05,880
>> Name, please?

1304
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:07,200
>> Sue.

1305
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:07,960
hi Sue.

1306
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:09,160
>> Um

1307
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:11,000
so

1308
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:12,280
somebody needs to start looking for

1309
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:14,000
extra streams of income to come in other

1310
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:15,560
than just putting all the tax burden on

1311
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:17,240
the on the people.

1312
00:44:17,240 --> 00:44:18,840
Because I'm understanding everybody

1313
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:20,760
wants more money.

1314
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:23,080
to pay things and more money

1315
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:26,470
in your paycheck.

1316
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:28,880
So do I, but I don't have

1317
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:31,680
So you guys need to find somebody to

1318
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:33,000
come up with some ideas of how to raise

1319
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:34,680
some more money. Get more people in the

1320
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:36,760
town. That drug place they got coming is

1321
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:38,680
awesome start, but

1322
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:39,800
I'm going to bring a lot of people to

1323
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:41,480
town. They're spending money till

1324
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:42,880
they're not I've heard out of the state,

1325
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:44,320
so

1326
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:46,720
there needs to be something happen to

1327
00:44:46,720 --> 00:44:49,200
bring more money to the towns that's not

1328
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:51,000
being put off on the taxpayers that have

1329
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:56,480
to cover. Enough is enough.

1330
00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:57,480
>> Okay.

1331
00:44:57,480 --> 00:44:58,400
Thank you.

1332
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:01,000
>> And other than that, is there a list of

1333
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:03,800
the what we're voting on in June?

1334
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:04,320
>> Yeah.

1335
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:06,200
>> I am working on getting the ballot, so

1336
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:08,920
we we outsource for ESS.

1337
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:10,280
>> Is there a timeline as to when that's

1338
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:12,240
going to be available so that I can

1339
00:45:12,240 --> 00:45:14,520
>> Right now I'm proofing what the state

1340
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:18,440
gave to me um and what ESS ESS and S

1341
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:20,760
election systems and software they gave

1342
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:22,320
to me, but the state I don't get much

1343
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:24,640
control of, so I don't know exactly when

1344
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:26,560
I'll have anything final to put out for

1345
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:29,120
a draft ballot, but as for local, I can

1346
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:30,800
tell you that I can provide you like a

1347
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:32,400
list of names of who's going to be on

1348
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:34,920
the ballot if you'd like. Um

1349
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:36,520
>> I want to know I want to know what we're

1350
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:37,800
voting on that's going to cost more

1351
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:39,720
money like the school or the

1352
00:45:39,720 --> 00:45:40,680
>> about it. Yeah, she wants to learn.

1353
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:40,880
Yeah.

1354
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:42,920
>> A lot of that stuff is what I need

1355
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:44,440
what's going to cost more money and why

1356
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:46,680
is it feasible? It's not mandated to

1357
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:49,240
have a public library in the town. Seems

1358
00:45:49,240 --> 00:45:50,640
like that's costing us a lot of money

1359
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:52,400
cuz it's all decrepit and

1360
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:53,800
maybe we should think about not having

1361
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:56,200
public library anymore.

1362
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:57,920
>> So we are going to have our budget

1363
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:00,880
meeting for the town budget on May 4th.

1364
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:02,960
Um and this week I'll be working on

1365
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:05,680
getting um as much information out as I

1366
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:07,680
can. I can tell you right now that we're

1367
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:11,160
reviewing the budget uh line by line uh

1368
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:13,400
to make sure that we can say, "Okay,

1369
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:15,840
this is what each expense is for. Uh

1370
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:17,560
this is why it has decreased or

1371
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:18,880
increased." So, when it goes to the

1372
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:21,080
budget advisory committee, um that

1373
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:22,800
discussion will be held um and the

1374
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:25,600
public is welcome in on to those

1375
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:28,200
meetings to be able to discuss it before

1376
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:32,830
um it ends up at town meeting.

1377
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:33,160
» Okay.

1378
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:34,360
>> One more comment.

1379
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:35,000
>> Yes.

1380
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:36,720
>> It's an at-will work state. If

1381
00:46:36,720 --> 00:46:40,200
somebody's not happy with the money they're making, there's other

1382
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:41,960
people that would like to have that job.

1383
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:43,280
So, keep that in mind when you have

1384
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:46,080
great benefits, pays for your insurance.

1385
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:47,960
Most don't Most jobs don't have that

1386
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:49,720
kind of insurance anymore. You should

1387
00:46:49,720 --> 00:46:51,560
think about decreasing that to

1388
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:52,640
lose

1389
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:53,760
lower some

1390
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:55,920
costs for the state for this for this

1391
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:57,240
town.

1392
00:46:57,240 --> 00:46:59,160
I mean, there's not many people I don't

1393
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:00,520
know if anybody in here has the kind of

1394
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:02,720
benefits that the state people have or

1395
00:47:02,720 --> 00:47:04,680
the town people have.

1396
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:06,160
Hardly anybody.

1397
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:08,600
That should be looked at.

1398
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:10,080
I'm just If you already got it good,

1399
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:11,600
quit whining. That's all I'm going to

1400
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:12,120
say.

1401
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:15,640
>> Thank you very much. Anybody else? Okay.

1402
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:19,320
I'm going to um move for a motion to

1403
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:22,280
enter executive session. Oh, I'm sorry.

1404
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:27,600
Do you guys have concerns? John.

1405
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:28,680
>> I'm good. You good?

1406
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:29,440
>> I'm good.

1407
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:30,560
>> Me too.

1408
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:32,600
>> Me Me five. So.

1409
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:34,080
>> Thank you all for coming.

1410
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:35,160
I'm sorry.

1411
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:36,440
>> I just wanted to say something.

1412
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:37,160
>> Yes.

1413
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:40,280
>> Um I applied for a grant. I don't feel

1414
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:44,000
like I'm whining, but yeah, I am.

1415
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:46,880
I applied for a grant to try to

1416
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:49,560
uh defray some of the capital money that

1417
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:52,120
we needed to ask for to transport

1418
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:53,560
Saying and listening to you both if you

1419
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:55,120
would like to.

1420
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:58,480
And um I did win $5,000 for that. I've

1421
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:00,320
already talked to Cheyenne about that so

1422
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:02,920
we can take $5,000 off of the capital

1423
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:05,950
last.

1424
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:09,720
$5,000. Cheyenne won $15,000 last time.

1425
00:48:09,720 --> 00:48:11,640
In the last 20 years I've garnered

1426
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:13,440
$151,000

1427
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:15,080
in grant money.

1428
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:18,480
So I'm doing my part

1429
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:21,080
to pay for that library.

1430
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:23,360
Because people do use it. Not everybody

1431
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:25,080
uses every service.

1432
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:27,280
But people do use it.

1433
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:29,280
If you have any questions, come to the

1434
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:30,480
library.

1435
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:32,560
I will show you my numbers. Show you the

1436
00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:34,000
program.

1437
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:35,840
Mike Tyke was at our Heroes and Helpers

1438
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:38,920
event so was Donnie. There was 35 kids,

1439
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:41,760
25 adults. That may not seem like a lot

1440
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:43,520
but for the people who were there, they

1441
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:46,720
felt that that program had value.

1442
00:48:46,720 --> 00:48:50,400
So I just wanted to say to everyone

1443
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:52,880
in the meeting in this meeting

1444
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:56,200
that I feel the library does have value.

1445
00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:57,680
I feel that there are a lot of things

1446
00:48:57,680 --> 00:49:00,120
that we pay for that we don't use.

1447
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:01,760
There's a lot of

1448
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:04,560
country roads that I never drive on

1449
00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:07,400
and I still say pave them.

1450
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:09,120
Plow them.

1451
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:11,360
Keep the street lights on. I never had a

1452
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:13,240
kid in school.

1453
00:49:13,240 --> 00:49:15,640
Support the public schools. Is there a

1454
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:17,520
room to cut in public schools? I do

1455
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:19,160
believe that.

1456
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:22,920
I also know that at least 65% of every

1457
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:25,600
dollar goes through the schools.

1458
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:27,440
And then another small percentage goes

1459
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:28,800
to the county

1460
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:31,640
and then the town gets what's left.

1461
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:33,440
And if you think that what we're asking

1462
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:36,360
for is everything under the sun, what

1463
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:38,880
we're bringing to the budget and

1464
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:42,520
advisory board on May 4th

1465
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:45,800
is a pared down version

1466
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:49,040
of what we think we can live with

1467
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:51,680
based on the understanding that we live

1468
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:53,400
in this town too.

1469
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:55,320
We understand that the taxes are going

1470
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:57,040
up and I agree too

1471
00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:59,240
that we need industry. We're not a mill

1472
00:49:59,240 --> 00:50:01,560
town anymore.

1473
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:04,360
So, thank you for listening to me

1474
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:06,120
and I look forward to working with you

1475
00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:08,120
and if you need any

1476
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:10,680
other information, please come to me and

1477
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:12,080
I will do what I can to get you that

1478
00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:13,800
information.

1479
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:14,680
>> Thank you.

1480
00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:15,920
very much.

1481
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:16,800
>> Real quick.

1482
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:18,760
>> Uh we're just to to add to that, yeah,

1483
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:19,720
if we're going to cut budgets, we're

1484
00:50:19,720 --> 00:50:20,840
going to cut the school budget, not the

1485
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:22,560
library budget. It might be a small

1486
00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:23,840
thing to cut there, but

1487
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:24,400
>> Yeah, thank you.

1488
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:26,000
>> cut millions from the school budget.

1489
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:26,840
>> Yeah, thank you.

1490
00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:27,360
>> Um

1491
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:27,960
>> wasted money.

1492
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:30,640
>> I've got another question.

1493
00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:32,120
>> I have just one question.

1494
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:33,280
>> You're going to make it quick cuz we're

1495
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:35,560
going into executive session.

1496
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:36,640
>> I will go back to that meeting and they

1497
00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:39,160
said it's 90% cash and 10%

1498
00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:40,800
There is a lot of people waiting to do a

1499
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:42,760
lot of cash.

1500
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:45,240
She said we're going to go this way, this way. It don't matter

1501
00:50:45,240 --> 00:50:48,480
what's put in there. It's totally wrong.

1502
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:49,720
Uh so

1503
00:50:49,720 --> 00:50:52,360
what That's going to go this way, this way.

1504
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:54,520
Say what? You have a great

1505
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:58,430
That's all.

1506
00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:01,880
What more possible? That's all the work.

1507
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:17,670
Do you think it can be done for less?

1508
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:20,000
Yeah, I hear you.

1509
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:22,950
Yeah, but

1510
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:25,040
especially for the uh We were talking

1511
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:27,350
about

1512
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:30,360
I can see such a w m a.

1513
00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:32,720
That's all right. I agree with that. You

1514
00:51:32,720 --> 00:51:34,560
know, we agree about Yeah, it got shot

1515
00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:36,480
out.

1516
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:37,720
All right, guys. Thanks, Dan.

1517
00:51:37,720 --> 00:51:38,680
>> Thank you very much.

1518
00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:39,760
>> All right, I'm going to make a motion to

1519
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:40,600
go into executive session.

1520
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:41,680
>> Okay.

1521
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:42,560
>> Second.

1522
00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:43,360
>> All in favor?

1523
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:44,480
>> I.

1524
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:45,920
>> Okay, we're in executive session,

1525
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:47,560
everyone.

1526
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:50,280
>> Let us not forget