[This transcript was generated automatically from audio using AI and hasn't been reviewed by a person -- it can contain mistakes, including plausible-sounding sentences that were never actually said. Treat it as a starting point, not a verbatim record.] [0:02] I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all. Thank you. [0:22] So we have public comment, it's limited two minutes tonight, anyone that wants to speak [0:29] on an item that is not on the public hearing agenda must sign up and will be called [0:35] in order. Please state your name. Councilman will not respond to daring comments, but the [0:45] The city staff allows, if needed, questions can be submitted using the QR code at the [0:54] entry. [0:55] Again, comments are two minutes. [0:58] I've asked that our staff gets back with you within two or three days. [1:08] So our first one is Christine Torres. [1:10] Christian come right up come right up here state your name please [1:18] hi [1:24] everybody good night my name is Christian for us this is my first meeting [1:28] here I have a little bit of concerns I've been living here in my most [1:34] for 20 years basically all right and there's recently been a couple changes [1:40] that in my neighborhood at least on my street we've all been wondering what's [2:01] There's a lot of other things that we could be focusing on, for one big example, we have a fire not so long ago, and our firefighters couldn't even connect to a fire hydrant because they didn't have water. [2:13] I think that's a really big issue, at least on my street. [2:17] Not on the snow pole from the street. [2:20] Most of us, a lot of the times, can't even get out of our house when it's snow's heavy. [2:24] I mean, this year, it hasn't snowed locally. [2:26] We get stuck in our houses quite a bit. [2:28] So with all of these new changes, we feel like it's kind of ridiculous focusing on the very last part that should be focused on. [2:37] Especially if you park in front of your driveway, in front of your house, [2:40] you're not bugging anybody or neighborhood at least my street we kind of [2:45] tend to keep if it's in front of your house a lot of us don't like working in [2:50] front of other people's houses just trying to respect so that's my main issue [2:55] just a lot of things that are being focused on right now that there's other [3:00] bigger issues going on in our community. Hey thank you our [3:09] next one is Scott Taylor [3:18] So I'm going to spice it up here and change things around a bit. I'm not here to complain. I'm not here to criticize or to bitch. [3:24] Excuse my French. [3:25] I just want to welcome our newest council member, our newest mayor. I'm hoping to, you know, to improve and not that we haven't had [3:48] and welcome. [3:49] Appreciate it. [3:50] Thank you. [3:56] Okay, our stakeholder report is Unified Police Chief Del Craig. [4:08] I'm at Tara Page at Mr. Taylor's book and congratulating the Mayor of Sudbury. [4:12] My new council members, Mayor Nelson and Terry George. [4:16] I look forward to working with you. [4:18] I look forward to making the city better and to keep our commitments to serve. [4:24] So that's it. [4:25] I'm going to turn some time over to Chris Benedict and then Chief Matron. [4:31] Just to echo it, Chief Craig said we were excited to work with you mayor and the council members and [4:38] Welcome to the welcome the magnate. Let's get this done. I've got some work to do. So [4:44] For stats, I provided those to you for the last month or the month of December. The total calls that [4:49] Respondents who are 1337 in that we had 451 long forms where we actually call that a long report [5:00] 343 civil citations in December and then we had 186 criminal citations in December. [5:07] That was a busy month for us but really stood out to me as we had a DOI arrest last month. [5:14] Any questions on that? [5:17] Council, anybody? [5:19] No. [5:19] All right. [5:20] Thank you. [5:20] Thank you, sir. Chief Mezzan. [5:24] Thanks, Lieutenant. I just wanted to get up here informally on behalf of the U-5 Police Department. [5:28] Welcome our new mayor and council people. [5:32] We love being your police department. I'm excited to continue to serve and work with all of you and your city staff. [5:38] I do a great job. [5:41] But we do love this community and all the citizens that we work for. [5:45] or Magna's special to me, I'm telling you support, [5:49] but this is where I started week one, day one, [5:52] minute one of my career right over there. [5:56] So Magna has a small spot in my heart. [5:58] So we love being here, we love being your police department. [6:01] If there's anything I can do for you, [6:02] I'm always available 24-7, you just gotta call me. [6:06] So again, congratulations and I'm looking forward to working with you. [6:10] Thank you. [6:11] Thank you. [6:11] Okay. [6:18] Approval of our Council meeting minutes. Can I have a motion? [6:27] Okay. Second. [6:28] Good motion, second. All in favor? Any? [6:31] Anybody opposed? [6:34] Seen on. [6:38] Okay. Council business. District three members mid-term vacancy interviews and selection. [6:44] Thank you. [6:45] David Pricky. [6:49] Congratulations and welcome to your first meeting. [6:52] As previously advertised, there was an opening as a result of district three's council member [6:59] being elected mayor. [7:01] As previously also publicized, there was an opportunity this past week from January 2nd, [7:08] through January 9th, for individuals interested to live within district three to submit their [7:13] name, fill out an application. [7:15] We have four individuals who have done so. [7:18] Those individuals will go through the following process. [7:22] They will each have an opportunity to address the council [7:25] for one minute following their introduction. [7:29] There is at least a 20-minute time period [7:31] for the council members to ask questions [7:33] of any of the candidates that you think appropriate. [7:37] If the conclusion of whatever questioning period [7:39] It may not be 20 minutes, it can potentially be shorter. [7:45] The candidate is then allowed an opportunity for a two-minute closing statement following [7:50] each of the four candidates' introduction and comments to you. [7:55] The council can retreat, it does decide to do so, into a closed session. [8:00] You cannot decide the result of your vote there in the closed session, you have to come out, [8:06] you have to cast your vote. [8:08] So the votes will, once cast, will be passed over to the court. [8:12] She'll note who is potential winner losers passed back to the mayor for announcement. [8:18] I would like to talk about a couple scenarios that are possible. [8:23] So David, the question is, everybody needs to know that I cannot vote unless there's a tie. [8:29] Correct, so the decision will be made by the current four members. [8:34] should there be a resulting tie? Let's deal with the conclusion that there are two [8:41] candidates with a tie. Those two candidates will once again be asked to step back [8:45] into the closed room where each one will then get an opportunity to come out [8:50] make a statement differentiating and absolving the other candidate. Once that has [8:56] concluded then you can cast your votes again. So there is a possibility of two votes [9:02] even after that second round at which case the mayor would cast the final [9:08] deciding vote. Shouldn't the mayor would use himself under state law you [9:14] flip a coin. [9:17] Can I make a suggestion? One minute seems inadequate. Can we give them [9:22] all three minutes up front and then we can use the remainder to ask follow-up [9:27] questions? We publicize the process. You're certainly within your right to make [9:33] that change and certainly it makes sense if that's what you want to do. I could say. Okay. [9:40] You guys okay. Okay. Great. Thank you. In which case the four individuals that I'd ask to [9:46] stand up, Mr. White, Mr. Chensey, Mr. K, and I apologize in advance. I'm assuming it's pronounced [9:54] Do I say that right? [9:58] No. [9:59] I apologize. [10:01] If you four would head back into the small conference room in the back where we'll come [10:07] out and actually Mr. White can probably stay first, he'll be the first one up. [10:12] I'm going to W1. [10:55] Wait till they close. [10:58] I'm going to W1. [11:02] I have a question. [11:03] So I'm Jeff White. [11:05] Just one second. [11:06] Just one second. [11:06] One second. [11:07] Where is he staying back? [11:09] No, he's coming up. [11:10] He's coming out. [11:13] Maybe yet. [11:14] Hey, David. [11:16] Do we have a scorchie? [11:18] Or are we just writing our comments on this? [11:20] I certainly can get you a note pass. [11:22] if you want to take notes, of course she's up to you. [11:25] The state statute doesn't indicate what you should read. [11:28] Okay, so my next question is, if I do write notes on this, [11:31] does that be then become public record? [11:34] Not if you turn them in, if you turn them in, they would be. [11:37] Well, I don't know if we have to. [11:38] If they're your personal notes, [11:40] it's on to this day your personal notes, they're yours. [11:42] Okay, I'm ready. [11:44] Okay, Jeff. [11:45] Okay. [11:47] I'm not a really good person. [11:49] I do support magna I live here my whole life and so I decided to throw my name in because [11:58] I wanted to support our council make sure that our movement ahead is done with common [12:04] sense and some reason ofality because it seems like some things have been going by that [12:11] are just seem a little off so I thought I would like to you know I've been involved with [12:17] There's a lot of things in the Ag Men's site while I'd like to support this new group [12:23] and make things going ahead forward with a real lot of common sense and just use what [12:31] experience I have to help in any way I can and like they'll represent those people in [12:37] districts, so thanks for that opportunity. [12:41] Thanks, Jim. [12:50] Do you want to ask, Mr. White, any questions? [12:53] No. [12:55] Do you have questions? [12:57] No. [12:57] I have questions. [12:58] Do you want to do all the intros first? [13:00] Yes. [13:00] And then do the... [13:01] Okay, so you want a little paper. [13:03] Yes. [13:03] Okay. [13:04] Thank you. [13:08] Guyana, I have a question. [13:10] Is there questions you clarified? [13:11] Is the questionnaire that they were given and they answered that we were provided? [13:15] Is that a public document? [13:16] Is that then provided? [13:17] It hasn't been provided with public yet, but it is a public document. [13:20] There are several questions that each candidate was given equally and we have those questions answered just here. [13:25] And it will be published with the minutes of the meeting afterwards. [13:29] So I'll be in there. [13:43] Council. [13:44] Good to be with you. [13:45] I'm Mike Jensen. [13:48] So live off of by the mayor. [13:52] We're close to our speed. [13:54] You still live. [13:54] So off 80th in the course you want to keep anyway. [13:58] So when I was little my grandma lived on 8800 West and so I would come out, if I wasn't [14:09] playing sports on Saturdays, I would basically come out for the weekend and stay with my [14:15] grandma. [14:15] So I'd go to the gym theater, come down to the market, perhaps email, and then kind of stuff. [14:22] So, I feel like I grew up here technically, I grew up in Granger, but I went away for a couple [14:30] of years, came back and decided to buy one of my house. [14:35] So I've lived out here since 1988, I chose to stay with my family, not five kids. [14:42] I've coached baseball football, basketball, but youth level, and at the high school for [14:48] baseball and football. [14:49] so I've decided to stay because I wanted to help the community that I live in and that I love. [15:00] So, that's kind of my background. Why would I want to be on the council? I think you all know that I spent 20 years on the Salt Lake County Council, representing our area, the whole west side of the valley. So, magma, I think we've done a great job as a young city as we're growing through the townships. [15:28] I think we're kind of at a crossroads. We see development [15:31] across the city and I think what I want to help with is the direction that we go [15:39] going forward and I think with the experience that I've had the conditions [15:43] that the words the councils that I've sat on. From Washington Regional Council that [15:48] does the transportation planning for all of Salt Lake County, Davis, Weaver County [15:53] all the federal funds that come in we prioritize those I sat 20 years on that. [15:59] on the council of governments for 20 years with all the cities, the mayors and the council members lobby the legislature. [16:10] So I think I get some of the ways that have the background that could work on kind of moving the city forward in the areas that I think we need to move in. [16:22] First off, economic development. [16:25] So for any city, our number one revenue source is sales tax. [16:30] We as the city have chosen to give the third apartment [16:33] and the police department our property tax. [16:36] We're probably one of the few. [16:38] Our other sister, municipal townships, [16:44] that have now been created, cities have done the same. [16:47] But we've prioritized that. [16:49] Okay. Thank you. Okay. Thanks I [17:31] think they soften things up. [17:35] Uh, I don't know how to word of really start in 2016 and [17:42] sent on a committee to help form and set out the MST. In 2017, I was elected to the city council. [17:56] 5 others were on the council and we each picked areas that we wanted to have some say in. [18:08] One with fire, one place in the center right on down the line. [18:15] I ended up with the MSD because I've been involved with them. [18:22] About six months into our terms, the government says, you've got to have somebody in charge to sign the bills. [18:34] So, I said, I became the mayor because my council had elected me to sit on that committee. [18:44] and the governor with the strike of the pen decided that I'd be a man. I ended up serving [18:54] on that capacity for seven years. At that time, I had way too of anything for community [19:02] council, Chamber of Commerce. We owned this building here, the Webster Center, and trying [19:10] to take care of all of it. Just decided at that time. It was best for me to step back and [19:16] let somebody else get in. That's when when Mick became a new councilman. Since then chamber [19:26] commerce and the community council have both disbanded from lack of participation. We ended up donating [19:33] in this building to the City Council, [19:37] and without eliminating a lot of headache and problems, [19:41] I had at that point. [19:44] After sitting around for a year, [19:46] my wife says, you need to get doing something. [19:50] You can't just sit around and eat and watch television. [19:55] So, the next city we're gonna run for the mayor, [20:00] Mayor, I decided, well, I'd give back in, and for what it's worth, I'm probably just looking at the two years. [20:11] I don't know if I want to run after that. [20:14] But I figured it was a chance for me to give back in and move on with my life for a couple of years. [20:20] it would also give the new people the chance I had to get out and meet the [20:27] people in their district. Go to the orders or knock on the door and talk to the [20:32] people so they want. I've done it. I think it gives them a chance to do it also. [20:40] That's all I got. Thank you. [20:41] Next, please. [21:14] Hi, I'm Jeff Adams. That's a proper way to say it. I've been a Magna for 14 years. [21:21] I will admit, we're in prison, please don't judge me. But moving to Magna, a couple of the first [21:29] questions I got was where the heck is Magna? And next comment was a Magna. And I've just kind of been [21:36] disappointed in that comment since I've lived here and learned so much about the history and the [21:42] people and the community and just want to be a part of making it grow. I think we're [21:50] at a place to live like it deserves. [21:54] Are we switching hours? Are you? You're done. Okay. [21:59] Great. Thank you. Okay. [22:32] Hello Jeff. So one of the questions that I'd like to ask is again, [22:36] you born and raised here in Magna and as you said that you know you want to get involved and you [22:41] You love magna, and that's one of my questions I have for you that you've been involved in a lot of situations in magna and you just want to see things better. [22:52] Anything more you want to add to that? [22:55] Well, I think the council needs to work together as a team. I'd like to be part of that team. [23:01] A lot of times things are sometimes people don't agree with sometimes decisions have to be made. [23:08] but usually that's because it's misinformation and I think the more that we [23:15] involve people and explain to them the progress and what has to go. Usually that [23:21] resolves it. We find that with the water coming in so that's the same thing. So I [23:26] think it's real important to explain things, make sure everybody understands, [23:33] understands ahead of time, the progress that has to be made and then the citizens [23:37] have to be made. That's all part of the progress. [23:42] Yeah, for you Phil, two most pressing issues in this town are. [23:47] Well, I thought it was parking and speeding. There might be some other things that I'm not sure [23:55] about, but that's what I see a lot of. Safety seems to be a big thing. Crosswalk safety is [24:01] real big because it gets dark earlier now and I see they've painted some of the crosswalks which [24:09] alerts a driver that he is entering a crosswalk area and so but I have seen people out there with [24:15] black on and everything and it just scares me because the crosswalks aren't lit that well so [24:21] if they're again it's all of what we can afford to spend and a priority so I believe the council [24:28] would be wise to set those priorities and then work to that. [24:33] Thank you. [24:35] Audrey. [24:38] So my question is kind of along the lines of how we work together as a council. [24:44] We all have very diverse backgrounds and things coming to this. [24:48] And we've seen your resume and your answers to the questions. [24:53] But how do you feel your experience work background? [25:00] makes you a good fit to represent your community on the council. [25:06] Just that I've lived here my whole life and I know the people that live in the area. [25:11] And I respect their opinion. [25:14] But at the same time I would like to be a team member on the council [25:20] and be part of that decision making and bring some experience. [25:26] sometimes I do a lot of footwork in the water company, I will go on and above to [25:33] investigate things just to get a better explanation of what's going on so we [25:37] can understand and make a real reasonable decision. Thank you. Any other [25:44] questions? [25:50] Thank you, Jeff. [26:12] Any questions [26:20] for Mike? [26:22] Are we repeating the last [26:24] You can make up whatever you want to throw out there. [26:27] Part of the show is great. [26:29] So Mike, I don't agree with some of the things [26:33] that my neighbor is doing. [26:36] How's the neighbor? [26:37] How am I going to handle those problems? [26:41] Are you wearing your council hat or your neighbor hat? [26:43] No, I'm wearing a citizen's hat. [26:49] Well, that's always a tough one, especially in the local level. [26:53] So I think what you need to do is understand what their issue is, have them explain it to you and then you explain it back to them so that you're both on the same page. [27:06] And then you can find common ground after that to see where you agree, where you don't agree, and then focus on those areas where you might be able to come to an understanding. [27:21] and then work on it. [27:23] The key, when it's your neighbor, [27:25] is to not make it personal, [27:27] because you need to keep that relationship long term. [27:32] So that's why you kind of have to walk the tight rope, [27:34] but at the end of the day, [27:36] you have to look out for the interests of the city [27:38] when it comes to that particular issue that affects the city. [27:43] And then, you know, love them up after, [27:46] just make sure they know you're still friends, [27:48] to know you might disagree on what the issue is. [27:51] Thank you. [27:53] Audrey? [27:56] So a lot of the questions that you were asked [27:58] were based on your experience in your background. [28:03] And clearly, you do have a lot of background [28:05] in what we are trying to do. [28:07] But a lot of the responses also come down [28:10] to our economic growth and what needs to happen in this community [28:17] to move forward. Where would you say you would want to start first in that economic impact [28:26] for a magnet? Well I think first we need to go through the master plan that we need to understand [28:33] what the planning and zoning, what the defined areas for economic development, commercial, [28:40] what levels of commercial but sales tax is going to be our biggest revenue [28:46] source in the city so we need to see where we have the ability to put in retail [28:53] specifically and commercial to broaden our tax base so I would look at that [28:58] first how is the master plan set up how is it that we can look to help [29:05] zone upgrade, whatever we need to do to bring in some retail and some commercial. [29:13] One of the other things off the top of my head, I would say mag can probably lose [29:20] is 90% of its potential retail to the 5600 West Corner. So what is it that we [29:28] We can bring out so that our residents aren't going to West Valley to buy all their goods [29:35] and services. [29:36] So what is it that we need to look at here in Magna? [29:40] Emphasize, we have two RDAs if we need to extend one or both in order to help facilitate [29:47] some growth in development needs to be smart development, needs to be wise on where we put [29:53] things and how we do it. [29:55] But if we need to extend the RDAs, we can do it. [29:58] That would help incentivize certain. [30:00] Companies, businesses that would want to come. Canada has a lot of land around. So I think we need to sit down and smartly with them. Look long term of what we could maybe partnership with them on. To look at where potentially we could make a new commercial area that would help drive the retail in the commercial base that we need. [30:31] I personally think we need to look between 84 and 80th, [30:35] between 28, 20, 27, whatever you want to call it, [30:39] out to 201. [30:40] That would be the perfect place for us. [30:43] We would get traffic coming down you in 11. [30:46] We would get traffic on 201 that's heading out [30:49] to Twillah County. [30:50] We could keep our base in Macna. [30:54] That's probably a 20 year plan at least. [30:56] But we need to start having that kind of discussions [31:01] with our partners, our stakeholders on how we're going to do it. [31:05] Okay, thank you. [31:08] Anybody else? [31:12] The answer might. [31:13] Thank you, Michael. [31:14] Okay, thanks. [31:25] Have I not on? [31:27] No, I don't have that loud. [31:29] I'm not sure if you're [31:44] trying to read my answers on some of those. [31:53] So, Dan, one of the questions I have, as you know, we lose a lot of business to 5,600. [32:04] What would you like to see how we could keep bringing businesses into Magna and as you know [32:12] has a log of land we talked about that and what can we do to bring business in [32:18] here because we run off sales tax that's right and we tried to do that for 10 [32:26] 15 years we looked to try and bring business you need more than just [32:33] mainstream you need to get the businesses here there's not a lot of property [32:37] that you can put a business in that's going to draw a lot of sales tax there's no ground [32:46] to do it. [32:47] When we talk about Kenikot, Kenikot's not going to just up and give us profit. [32:56] Yeah, I don't know that there's a real answer how to get more business, but for one thing [33:02] the people who might not support magnet businesses, they haven't done it for 25 years. [33:09] I've seen the restaurants open on Main Street, they just last two or three months and they [33:15] close up because people go down and they'll try it, yeah the food's okay, but I'd rather [33:19] go to West Valley, get more variety, they'll go out there and go to a movie, whatever movie [33:26] theater I hear would definitely help. [33:31] I don't know of any other businesses that will attract businesses especially to Main Street [33:36] And technically there's no other places in Magnetville, [33:43] in which there was anybody [33:48] else [33:49] have a question. [33:50] And how would you address the housing issues here in our town? [33:56] I wish there were all things dwelling home, but they're not district three which I represented [34:04] when I went in and I effort would still if I ended up here at the end. [34:10] there's not many homes in that area to build homes in that area. It's pretty [34:15] well stacked border to border with new homes. The rest of the city, I'd like to [34:22] see them. I'm not real happy with ivory whites, homes down there, but they're [34:30] released, they're singled wellings, they're whining up, dry-waising, they're a couple of [34:34] cars in there. You get the old part of Magna. And when a lot or something comes open and [34:41] the planes owning approves it to go in there, they put a duplex in there and all of a sudden [34:46] you can't get up and down the street because there's four or five cars in each of those [34:51] duplexes. So we've got to find a way to, in my opinion, and forget a lot of build houses. [34:59] They've got to build houses that will withstand so much traffic, so much proper parking for that amount of traffic. [35:13] And we argued just up to ten years ago, one of the spectators says, well it's easy for you to say, you've got plenty of room up front. [35:23] you're up because I want to lie. So I can easily put an extra couple of cars, but I had two kids [35:33] and at one time I had four cars and they're trying. So it's not something that I don't understand. [35:40] It was just, you know, your reason I did it was because I had the room to put them there. [35:47] Thank you. Thanks, Dan. Yeah. Thank [35:54] you, Neil, to have anything. [35:56] Okay. [35:56] Yes. Thanks, Stan. [35:58] We've been to the back there in the discussion. [36:00] No problem. [36:03] I'm so, so here's what we're in there. [36:05] I hope you get it all so. [36:06] Because the donors have been talking to each other. [36:29] Anybody have any questions for Jan? [36:33] I do. [36:34] Okay. [36:40] So on a council, there's several of us that we all have very diverse backgrounds. [36:45] some of us have actually worked in government before, [36:50] some of us have not, right? [36:51] And that kind of lends to how we work together [36:55] to bring in different ideas. [36:57] But how do you feel your background [37:01] and experience make you well suited to sit on the council? [37:10] I grew up playing sports. [37:11] So team working together, you're only as strong as your [37:16] weakest player, things like that have always been. [37:19] What I ran myself on, I've also, my current job, [37:27] deal with a lot of different departments. [37:31] We've got customer service, we've got our legal department, [37:34] we've got our doctors, PC owners, stakeholders, [37:37] everything like that, and I have to be the glue [37:39] that kind of keeps everybody up to date and in check [37:43] and obviously pages to what we're doing [37:48] and leaving to go with the A-stuff. [37:52] So having to adjust and put different hats on in regards [37:58] to my job doing the legal and then transferring that [38:02] to customer service so that they understand what legal just [38:04] said is a challenge, but like it's, again, it's a team thing. [38:12] We're always working together trying to keep our company afloat, [38:17] less than one is to get a lawsuit or not to be a complaint against us. [38:24] So trying to move [38:31] that into any council, we've got all of your guys to stick their backgrounds [38:36] but we've got different departments and we've got the local community, different backgrounds, [38:42] different cultures, [38:48] different everything in regards to the magnetism is not once I did [38:53] whatsoever when it comes to the community. So having to work with them is another thing you have to kind of [39:00] move around and piece together and figure [39:07] out what works best. Thank you. [39:14] Jen, in your opinion, [39:15] what's the best way to, how would you balance growth in our city? [39:23] It's kind of hard because we've got a [39:31] history that we definitely don't want to get rid [39:33] of, but there are places where there's empty lots that people will sell or try to sell [39:41] at some point. [39:44] It's hard to say other ones because I know right now the state's in there talking about [39:51] taking coding and everything the way from cities and they're taking responsibility so that [40:00] might not be something you just have to worry about down the road whether I agree with that [40:06] or not I mean it's it's it's it's with it being here responsibility now I'm a back person so I'm [40:17] also creative. I kind of have both sides of the brain going all at the same time. I love looking at [40:24] vaccine, what helps what pros and cons there are. And I also throw my creative side too. So it [40:32] just kind of depends what you're wanting and what you mean, what the area we're looking at. [40:38] Thank you. So Jenna got a question. As you know, we definitely, we definitely have parking [40:45] problems, as you said tonight, we've wrote a lot of tickets on our parking. So with how can we as [40:53] neighborhoods try to work together to try to see if we can all come together on the same page? [41:01] And I know we're not all going to agree, but there's got to be a happy medium where we can all [41:08] come together. And one of my issues is I would like to see us all come together and start working [41:15] together to put I have a hard time calling this city because I know it is a town but as as a city [41:22] there's one of my questions. I think I know a lot of people don't know the ordinances and so [41:28] community should get them out there more and I know there's going to come but I know [41:35] there's been posting them on Facebook things like that but it's apparently just not getting out [41:39] I know that a lot of the parking issues or the reason for the parking ordinance is the same as you think. [41:48] Not just that but little valley, but we've got smaller streets here and that and the cars are getting bigger. [41:55] People are parking on sidewalks around the streets to make room for cars to make it down the road. [42:02] I think that, unfortunately, [42:08] if we got to figure out how to talk to each other, and I know [42:12] somebody who's trying to talk to others and some just won't have it, but I'm working [42:16] with the police. [42:18] They are doing their job and backing them up and just educating people, letting people [42:23] know the police aren't just trying to get extra money, and that's why they're writing [42:28] the tickets. [42:28] Again, it's a safety thing. [42:32] Okay. Thank you. Anybody else have any more questions? [42:35] No, I answered it. [42:36] Okay. Thank you. [42:38] Thank you. [43:25] Thank you. [43:28] Okay. [43:30] So I considered this an opportunity [43:34] and whatever they can also decide, they decide. [43:39] So yeah, so we did. [43:41] And it is an opportunity and I look at it that way. [43:45] So, anyway, I can help, so if I [43:54] have any more to say, I'm not a public speaker, I'm [43:58] a doer. [44:01] All right. [44:02] Thanks, Jeff. [44:03] Thank you very much. [44:04] Thank you. [44:13] They're giving their steps. [44:15] Yeah, they are. [44:18] Welcome back. [44:19] You're miles in today. [44:20] You didn't realize we were a newer city. [44:22] You're learning that tonight. [44:25] So I guess this is closing state, yes. [44:28] Alright, so you guys have read my stuff. [44:31] You can read it personally, so I would love to serve if you guys feel I'd be a good fit. [44:37] Thanks for your time. [44:39] Thanks Michael. [44:39] You're doing that? [44:54] I'm [44:58] recording a read mark. [45:02] No, no, they got your only one. They copied you now. And this [45:11] is supposed to be a closing statement. Yes, you're closing remarks. Okay. The only thing I can say is I've been on the council for seven years. I know what's going on. Hopefully we did a good job. [45:28] Like I say, I'm only looking at two years at the end of that time. [45:35] somebody wants to run and go out and pound on doors like the rest of us did. [45:48] Like I say, so for seven years, [45:55] we had two meetings a month. [45:59] I only missed two meetings in seven years. [46:02] One of them was in Japan with our sister city, and the other one I can't even remember. [46:09] It's the MSD board that's set on the MSD board, and only Mr. St. King would go [46:19] with that. [46:20] Thanks Dan, we'll still walk around this time. [46:38] Welcome back. [46:50] I'm not a politician, not the best speaker out there, but I'm a concern citizen that [46:59] I'll tell you as I see it, I don't show you go things, some people I guess, some people [47:06] don't, especially as being a female, but I'm not scared so I hope you guys [47:14] come into consideration, if not, and still more than willing to help out the city in all sorts of ways, I appreciate you guys' time. [47:24] Thank you. [47:24] Thank you. [47:25] At [47:37] this point, if the council wishes, they can take a vote and determine if you wish to go to a closed session or proceed directly to the voting. [47:48] Probably. [47:49] So does someone want to make, let's make a motion to go to close for personnel? [47:54] I'll make a motion to go discuss what we heard tonight. [47:58] I'll second it. [47:59] Good motion in second. All in favor? [48:02] Aye. [48:02] Any opposed? [48:03] None. [48:04] I'll just share with the community that in the closed session, [48:08] they cannot make a final vote for their determination. [48:11] Because it's personal and matter, it is not recorded. [48:16] Thank you.