[0:01] I think if we say [0:02] >> Good morning everybody. I want to [0:03] welcome everybody to our regular board [0:05] meeting February 12, 2026 at the Magna [0:09] Water District. I'd love to call this [0:11] meeting to order. Will everybody stand [0:13] with me with the pledge of allegiance. [0:19] » I aliance to the flag of the United [0:23] States of America and to the republic [0:26] for which it stands. One nation under [0:29] God, indivisible, with liberty and [0:32] justice for all. [0:34] >> Thank you. [0:37] >> I'd like to welcome the public and [0:39] guest. And so today around our diary [0:42] seat table is we got Trevor Andre Dallas [0:46] Henline Steve Clark Andrew Sumption uh [0:50] Jeff White Mick Sudbury Danny Stewart Le [0:54] Fitzgerald [0:56] Nathan Bracken and Clint Dilly [0:58] uh [1:00] public comment. So if anybody's wanting [1:03] to speak to the board uh here we're [1:07] going to give you three minutes. So, [1:09] does anybody have anything they'd like [1:11] to address to the board [1:15] or any questions? [1:17] Okay, seeing none, does anybody on the [1:21] agenda have a conflict of interest that [1:23] they need to disclose to the board? [1:26] Okay, easy. So, uh let's move on to our [1:31] recognizing our employees. Dallas, I [1:34] mean, um [1:35] >> Andrew. [1:37] >> Yeah. Um, unfortunately they weren't [1:39] able to make it in today. The collection [1:41] crews got a job going on that they [1:43] couldn't come come from and uh Jean was [1:47] is got a vacation day today. But we'd [1:50] like to recognize Clint Giles for [1:52] completing his traffic control tech. Um, [1:55] as we continue to do this, we get safer [1:57] and safer out there on the roads. Uh, [2:00] Gavin Ferguson, one of our newer [2:01] employees, just completed his CDL. uh it [2:06] it's the first step in becoming uh full [2:09] member of the team to be fully [2:11] operational. And then Quint Quinton [2:14] Ginge finished his water distribution [2:16] one. He's on our collections crew and [2:18] he's now got a a collections [2:21] certification as well as a water [2:24] distribution certification. And then [2:25] Jean Sto, he just bid and was the [2:30] successful bid on the facility [2:31] maintenance position. Um he hit the [2:33] ground running this week. I think he's [2:35] knocking off a big list of to-do items [2:37] that we've been waiting to get done. So, [2:39] we're excited to have him. [2:41] >> Awesome. [2:41] >> That's good. [2:43] >> Okay, let's approve our uh common [2:45] consent items. [2:47] >> Minutes of the regular board meeting [2:48] held January 8, 2026. [2:52] Expenses from December 29th, 2025 to [2:56] February 1st, 2026. General expenses [3:00] 1,941,319.33. [3:06] Sign bank bond payment $83,53083. [3:12] » I'll second it. [3:12] >> Been motion second. All in favor? I [3:14] >> I. [3:16] >> Okay, moving on to our department [3:20] reports. Clint. [3:21] >> Yes. Thanks, Mr. Chairman. Um, like we [3:25] talked, Jean just built the uh service [3:29] maintenance facilities. So, his position [3:31] on the water construction crew opened [3:33] up. That was posted in house. Um, and [3:36] we'll close next Tuesday, it sounds [3:38] like, right, Andrew? [3:39] >> Yes. Tuesday evening. [3:41] >> And then if we don't get any bids on [3:42] that, we'll open it up outside. So, if [3:45] anybody has any referrals, [3:48] uh, any interested people looking for [3:50] jobs, we'd love to have them submit a [3:53] resume [3:54] for us to consider. [3:57] Um, other things I want to just [3:58] highlight on the report on the [4:01] operations side for the water, the crews [4:05] have been draining and cleaning and [4:06] inspecting all of our drinking water [4:08] storage tanks, which uh is nice to go [4:12] through for housekeeping. [4:15] um as well as inspection of how the [4:20] corrosion, especially our steel tanks, [4:23] that's the biggest concern. And so [4:25] they're taking pictures and going [4:27] through that process the past couple [4:29] weeks. Uh anything to add on that, [4:32] Steve? [4:33] >> Um no, we're just going to try and get [4:35] through all of them this year if [4:37] possible. We'll probably have to take a [4:38] break through the summer when demand's [4:40] high and then pick back up in the fall [4:42] and get the ones that we weren't able to [4:43] this But so far they've done the two [4:46] steel tanks up at 4100 and they're [4:49] working on 35th right now. [4:51] >> Awesome. [4:52] >> So when we're talking about solar power, [4:55] are we putting better battery backup in [4:58] places that's not feasible for [5:00] generators? [5:01] >> Yeah. So you remember the issue we had [5:03] up there zone 3. So that has to deal [5:05] with that solar panel with some battery [5:07] backup. [5:08] >> Yeah, we're updating that. Um, and then [5:11] we also were able to incorporate a [5:13] couple other alarms at different [5:15] facilities [5:16] >> that will help us watch that. Plus, [5:18] we're putting in a single fire ranger [5:20] that's kind of like the setup we have [5:22] here at the pond [5:23] >> and it'll be just for that tank. So, [5:25] >> good. [5:26] >> We shouldn't have that issue again. [5:27] >> Yeah, that's great. [5:29] >> Some redundancy that I think will help [5:31] us [5:33] make sure we avoid that. Uh [5:36] we haven't heard back from the Great [5:38] Salt Lake on the leasing of the water [5:41] shares on the canal, but we'll follow up [5:43] with them. Uh we usually have until [5:47] canal season starts uh to get that in [5:49] place. So [5:50] >> I mean I re we I told them that the [5:53] board approved to move ahead with that [5:55] and so they've replied from there and [5:57] said they would get the agreement ready [6:00] and then I had [6:01] >> like to bring that back in March. I [6:03] hadn't heard back from them, so I did [6:04] double check again to make sure they [6:06] weren't waiting for us on anything. And [6:08] she said, "No, it should be coming [6:09] soon." And that was a week ago. [6:11] >> How will that water share get down? Will [6:14] they take it from the Jordan River and [6:16] put it in the canal that goes [6:19] >> Yeah, it'll it'll just come through. [6:20] >> Will they take it here and [6:22] >> and we just won't take pull any of it? [6:24] >> Right. Will it it won't change the flow [6:26] rate or I mean the level. [6:28] >> Well, it Yeah, but potentially it could [6:30] go up a little bit, but we don't need [6:32] it, right? [6:33] >> We don't. I don't think you'll see a big [6:35] difference, but either [6:37] >> it'll just kind of flow down the canal [6:39] over into the Great Salt. [6:40] >> Yeah. Going into the Great Salt Lake. [6:41] So, I think that's pretty neat. You [6:44] know, that adds up. [6:46] >> Well, help them out. Anyway, [6:48] >> how many how many shares was that? [6:50] >> How many total? [6:51] >> We have I think Sorry, memory. 343. So [6:55] 75% of that 240 [6:58] 280 [6:59] >> 280 shares. [7:00] >> Wow. That's good. That'll help them out [7:03] >> roughly. [7:04] >> Yeah. And you times that by [7:05] >> What are they paying us? [7:06] >> 4.59. [7:07] >> Yeah. Times that by 4 acre feet. [7:09] >> So it's over a,000 acre feet. [7:12] >> Yeah. Wow. [7:13] >> Were they paying us a share? [7:17] >> We It was about [7:19] >> 48,000 we got paid last year for half of [7:22] our shares. So, we'll probably get 75. [7:25] >> And that's a good resource for them [7:26] because they could use it. We just don't [7:28] need it, [7:29] >> right? [7:29] >> We just don't need it in our pipes. [7:31] >> Yeah. And [7:32] >> we don't need the fish in our [7:34] >> Yeah, [7:36] that's right. [7:37] On the wastewater side, just wanted to [7:39] highlight the collections crew did some [7:42] half-day blue steak training with the [7:46] 811, right? Um I think that's important. [7:50] And I'd like Dallas to kind of share [7:52] with you what they go through. [7:53] >> Sure. About 3 years ago, Blue Stakes [7:56] went to a online digital dashboard. So [7:59] now each entity receives their blue [8:01] stake locate requests through an online [8:03] portal. Within the online portal, you [8:06] can reach out directly to the contractor [8:08] that submitted the blue stake. Um you [8:10] can apply pictures from the field right [8:12] to the exact ticket. Um and then it's [8:15] got everybody's contact information on [8:16] there. So the training was a refresher [8:19] on the online dashboard. It also ensures [8:22] that there's continuity between utility [8:24] markers that we're all marking the lines [8:26] the same way how they're supposed to be [8:29] um marked by standard. And then it gives [8:32] the the entities and the contractors the [8:35] chance to, you know, say what's working [8:37] well, what do we need to improve on? And [8:40] um it's just a half day local training [8:42] that we try to get the newer operators [8:44] to and some of our older operators. We [8:47] get them there every few years as a [8:48] refresher. So, pretty valuable. [8:52] >> Yeah, I appreciate you keeping up on [8:53] that. As blue staking has become such a [8:56] substantial part of the workload. [8:58] >> Correct. [8:59] >> Um I think it's important that we [9:01] continue to [9:02] >> Yeah. [9:03] >> invest in that. [9:05] >> Um he's also they've completed some [9:07] warranty work on the vector truck. Um [9:10] and then have worked on some cross [9:12] trainining of the water guys on the [9:14] collection [9:15] >> on the back truck. Yeah. [9:16] >> Um, is this uh the the warranty that [9:20] came with the truck? [9:21] >> It is. [9:22] >> So, what we're finding is on maybe not [9:25] necessarily on our equipment, but [9:27] sometimes we don't exercise it and find [9:30] a problem because we don't use that [9:32] feature. [9:33] >> Sure. [9:33] >> But sometimes we need to check that out [9:35] to make sure before that warranty [9:37] expires, [9:38] >> right? because we're finding out some of [9:40] the some of the manufacturers are not [9:44] are taking exception to some things and [9:48] it's quite costly if you if you don't do [9:51] it. So, we got to make sure we check it [9:52] out. I don't know when the warranty will [9:54] run out on it, but we need to make sure [9:56] we thoroughly check it before that [9:58] warranty deadline. [9:59] >> Yeah, great idea. Thank you. [10:03] >> Okay, on the office side, wanted to [10:05] highlight a couple things. We had the [10:07] new office cleaning company take over. [10:09] Uh I think we've all noticed an [10:11] improvement in the facilities. Um and so [10:15] we'll hope that continues and we'll [10:17] continue to maintain that, monitor them. [10:21] We had to submit the annual water use [10:23] data report. Le worked with uh Trevor [10:26] and Steve to get that into the division [10:30] of water rights. [10:32] Um we did close the bond closure [10:35] meeting. We held that yesterday with [10:38] Division of Drinking Water and Zans's [10:41] Bank and that went well. [10:43] >> I think uh it ended up at 1.6 million in [10:48] principal forgiveness. [10:50] >> Oh wow. [10:51] >> So basically a grant. Um [10:53] >> that's pretty exciting. [10:54] >> Yeah, pretty exciting for the community [10:56] to get the majority of that paid for. Uh [10:59] so to reduce the burden on [11:02] >> So Clint, I got a question. Will you [11:04] post that in a newsletter? [11:05] >> Yeah. [11:06] >> And we'll put that out in our I think [11:08] people in this city need to [11:10] >> see that. [11:12] >> Yeah. [11:13] >> The Zans Bank made a comment that they [11:15] hadn't seen that [11:18] >> those terms from any of their clients. [11:21] >> Well, [11:22] >> so pretty good terms. [11:23] >> Maybe what you might want to do too is [11:26] Meredith Alexander is the MSD people [11:29] that does our communications. you might [11:31] want to reach out to her [11:33] >> and let her give her the information. [11:35] Let her post it, too. [11:36] >> Okay. [11:39] >> Yeah, we can make a note of that and [11:41] post that [11:44] information. And then Leile's found this [11:47] potential solution. I I think is is [11:51] maybe a good option for us in Cassell. [11:55] they have typically we use a service [11:58] order module [12:00] um that's linked to a customer address. [12:02] So that's how we've historically handled [12:05] um [12:07] generating leak checks, things like that [12:11] of that nature, right? Shut on, shut off [12:14] customers. Yeah. [12:14] >> And it's based on a customer address. [12:16] But there's another module that she said [12:19] that could be it's called a work order [12:22] that we might be able to improve our [12:24] tracking of the main breaks when they're [12:26] not in a at a particular address [12:29] >> like our facility. [12:31] >> It's more our facility tracking. Um and [12:34] then also with Gan working on a lot of [12:36] the facilities maintenance, it could [12:39] also be used to help track his progress. [12:42] So there could be work orders generated [12:44] and then we could see rather than him [12:47] keeping a separate database, this could [12:50] all be in Cassil the same. [12:52] >> And so she's going to look into that a [12:54] little bit more. I thought that could be [12:56] something that [12:58] improves our efficiency and our [13:00] tracking. [13:02] Um so we'll once we're ready, we'll [13:04] bring some information back to the board [13:06] to consider uh if you want to move [13:09] forward with that. [13:10] >> Great. [13:13] uh on communications and morale uh [13:16] attended a Jordan Valley conservation [13:19] oriented rate structure development [13:22] meeting with other districts and cities. [13:25] This is is in regards to their retail [13:28] system. I just thought it was [13:30] interesting to give the board a heads up [13:32] of some of these ideas they're [13:35] considering are pretty extreme in my [13:39] mind. Um, [13:43] one of the ideas that was thrown out is [13:45] that there would be an individualized [13:47] average rate [13:50] uh of usage. So you would almost have [13:54] each customer would also almost have [13:56] their own individual rate structure. [14:00] Uh, so I don't think based on the [14:03] feedback, I don't think they're going to [14:04] move forward with that option, [14:07] >> but I want you to know that those ideas [14:09] are starting to be discussed. [14:12] >> Is that a way to increase their taxes? [14:14] >> I think it's a way to try to continue to [14:17] encourage conservation [14:19] and also adjust it more to the user and [14:23] their lot specifics and their family [14:25] size rather than have [14:29] categories that aren't as closely [14:33] matched and aren't as comparable. [14:35] >> Yeah. [14:36] >> From place to place. If Trevor has a [14:38] halfacre lot and he has 10 kids, [14:43] you know, compared to a small little lot [14:48] with a single family, if they're on the [14:51] same [14:52] uh breaks in their usage, [14:56] you might Trevor might say, "Hey, that's [14:58] not fair to me because I'm, you know, [15:02] >> a bigger 10 kids because kids, you [15:06] should a lot of rights. um no choice. [15:09] >> So in that scenario, Trevor's usage [15:12] would be adjusted to the lot size, his [15:15] family size, and then his average usage [15:19] um would be tracked and if he went [15:23] significantly above that, that could [15:26] change the rate. So, I don't think [15:29] they're heading that direction, but [15:31] there's some pretty extreme ideas being [15:34] thrown out out there for conservation. [15:38] Um, and so wanted to give you a heads up [15:41] as the uh board as we move forward with [15:46] ours, I think we'll strike a good [15:48] balance. Yeah. [15:50] >> Um, [15:52] the other thing I wanted to let you know [15:55] of is we've got a meeting with the golf [15:57] course board scheduled for next [16:01] Wednesday to discuss secondary water [16:03] options. I think they're they've been in [16:06] communication with Kakott [16:08] >> and I think they're ready to move [16:10] forward. [16:10] >> Next Wednesday at what time? [16:12] >> 4:30. [16:13] >> Yeah. [16:14] >> Down at the golf course. [16:15] >> 4:30 in the afternoon. [16:16] >> Yeah. [16:19] Okay. [16:21] And then last, I'll just highlight been [16:24] working on the goals to finalize for the [16:27] employee performance goals for the March [16:29] meeting. [16:30] Andrew's been doing some new Arbinger [16:34] training for the new employees, which I [16:37] think is really positive. Um, [16:41] we sent out that 2025 year in review and [16:44] 2026 look ahead flyer to customers in [16:48] the February bill. We haven't had much [16:50] response on that yet. I will note that [16:53] we did have quite a few comments on the [16:56] water pressure check flyer. [16:58] >> Let's get one. [16:59] >> So, that flyer that you recommended we [17:03] put something together on, there's a lot [17:04] of good feedback on that. a lot of calls [17:06] in um a lot of questions. I think that [17:10] was a good [17:11] >> Was it more positive? [17:12] >> Yeah, positive. [17:14] >> So, that's my report unless the board [17:17] has any questions. [17:22] » Okay, let's move over to our engineering [17:24] report. [17:25] >> Okay, thank you board and chair. Um some [17:29] highlights here. Influent pump station. [17:32] Um they've got the screw pumps set in [17:36] their channels. Um we we got to see a [17:39] little bit of that with their big crane [17:41] and how that went in. [17:43] Um they also set a 96 inch manhole [17:47] recently. Uh biggest one we have in the [17:50] district. It was it's pretty cool to see [17:52] that size. Um Hannes number eight well [17:57] replacement. We we had a meeting with [17:59] the EPA. uh finally got got them to come [18:04] together with us and give us direction [18:06] on how to shore up that that grant for [18:09] Hannes number eight. Um [18:12] with that we're we're planning to move [18:15] forward on the well drilling and then [18:17] the wellhouse will be specific to the [18:20] grant. So that'll let us move that [18:21] forward, you know, kind of ASAP. So [18:25] intend to bid out the well drilling [18:27] fairly soon. [18:30] Um [18:32] see other things uh change house [18:35] design's moving along well. Um speeding [18:38] along quickly approaching 90%. [18:42] Um zone 3 reservoir that construction is [18:45] underway. Uh made a lot of good progress [18:48] there. You you can see the shape of the [18:50] reservoir. They'll be starting, they're [18:53] doing some outfall work and structure [18:55] work and getting some drain pipe in and [18:57] they'll start on the pipeline [19:00] um pretty soon. And then like mentioned, [19:03] we we closed on our grant for the lead [19:05] and copper and we'll we've been [19:09] coordinating with the contractor. We'll [19:10] give them a notice to proceed um soon [19:13] and then they'll [19:15] we'll start that whole process working [19:17] with the customers to get, you know, [19:19] into their yard, into their house and [19:20] start getting those replaced. So, [19:24] um that's all I have. If there's any [19:26] questions, [19:27] >> any question for the board? [19:28] >> No. [19:29] >> Thanks. [19:31] >> Any problem on the railroad? [19:35] >> No, [19:36] that's just there as a reminder. [19:40] Thanks, Trevor. [19:40] >> Yep. [19:41] >> Okay, Steve. All [19:43] >> right. Thank you, board chair. So, the [19:46] culinary water for production for the [19:48] month of January was 102.89 million [19:51] gallons or 315.79 [19:54] acre feet. That's a 8% increase from [19:57] January of 2025. [20:00] So far, year to date, we've purchased [20:01] 67.3 acre feet of water from Jordan [20:04] Valley. [20:06] Um, as far as call outs go for the [20:08] month, we had total of 19. 17 of those [20:12] were water, two were wastewater for a [20:15] total of 124.25 [20:17] hours, 115.25 [20:20] of those were water, and then nine of [20:23] them were wastewater. We had four [20:26] mainline leaks, um, three service line [20:29] leaks, and then 12 miscellaneous calls. [20:33] Um, and then unless you guys questions [20:35] about the stuff we talked about earlier. [20:37] That's all I have. [20:38] >> Steve, what's the minimum that we use [20:40] from Jordan Valley? Do we have a [20:42] threshold? [20:43] >> We have a We have a threshold. A minimum [20:46] >> 800 acre feet. [20:49] >> And how do we keep that in check so we [20:51] don't use too much? [20:53] >> Matt, he constantly monitors it down [20:56] treatment plant. [20:58] We uh they have we have our own [21:02] projections and then every month Jordan [21:03] Valley has the projection of where we're [21:05] at and where they think we'll end up [21:08] based on our usage. So there's several [21:12] checks into that to make sure we're not [21:14] going to leave any on the table. [21:17] >> Yeah, because we'll we'll pay for it, [21:20] right? [21:20] >> Yeah, that's right. [21:21] >> I just was wondering about that. [21:25] Okay, Dallas. [21:27] >> Yes, sir, Mr. Chair. Thank you. Just a [21:29] couple things I wanted to go over. Um, [21:31] January was really good for the plant. [21:33] All the regulatory samples are good. The [21:37] first quarter bio monitoring passed. [21:39] That's always a relief for us. Um, we [21:42] had some scheduled preventative [21:44] maintenance done on our f our west fine [21:47] screens in the Headworks building. Um, [21:50] sometimes those roller wheels get a flat [21:51] spot in them and they're like an inline [21:53] skate wheel. They just wear down. So, as we see that wear item start to go, we [21:58] schedule that maintenance and um, some [22:01] of the roller bearings need to be [22:03] replaced at the same time. So, we [22:05] coordinated that with the mechanics and [22:07] got ahead of that. Um, on the collection [22:10] side of it, we're gathering pricing for [22:13] our annual collection system repairs. [22:15] That usually takes us a few months. Um [22:18] then I'll bring that pricing back to the [22:20] board and we'll get that scheduled and [22:22] start working on those this fall. Um [22:25] we're due for our annual sewer line [22:27] rapid assessment testing with SLRAP. [22:30] That's the acoustic inspections that we [22:33] do. Um we target 75 to 80% of our [22:37] collection system piping through those [22:39] inspections. I'd like to get that price. [22:42] We've budgeted for a do not exceed of [22:44] 65,000. Um, if it's okay with the board, [22:47] I'll bring that back in March and we'll [22:49] we can discuss that a little further. [22:51] Um, right now the collections crew, [22:54] they're flushing the lines between 3100 [22:57] and 35th South and they're working their [22:59] way east from 84 to 8,000. [23:04] Um, [23:06] yeah, just going back to the screw the [23:08] screw pumps that Trevor mentioned, I've [23:10] updated the photo behind um this report [23:14] to kind of show one of those screws in [23:16] the air um for those that didn't get to [23:18] see it. And then we've got some [23:20] additional photos that we can share if anybody's got some interest and wants [23:24] to take a look. So, that's pretty much [23:27] all I have, Mr. Chairman, unless the [23:28] board's got some questions. Uh what is [23:31] the standard going to change to? Are [23:32] don't we have a standard coming up that [23:34] they're going to change? [23:35] >> We have the if you're referring to the [23:38] >> on these limits. [23:40] >> It was effluent total foss and that went [23:42] into effect with our new permit for 2025 [23:45] >> and how long do you think that'll go [23:47] before they change that? [23:48] >> Uh probably indefinitely. [23:50] >> Really? [23:51] >> Yeah. [23:51] >> Okay. [23:52] >> There's no word on the horizon that um [23:55] our permit limit would change. It would [23:56] be dictated by the receiving waters. [23:58] >> Okay. which our receiving waters aren't [24:01] going to change. So, it's I'm not going [24:04] to say it's permanent, but usually they [24:06] give us several years heads up. [24:07] >> Well, I know there's a lot of people [24:09] that are in the same boat, but I noticed [24:12] when we started doing uh air quality on [24:15] the back houses like at Staker and [24:17] Geodine, I noticed when they seen how [24:20] well you do, then they started to [24:22] tighten the belt up and make the [24:23] restrictions more. [24:25] >> Sure. [24:25] >> And if you look at that report, that's [24:27] exceptional. So, [24:30] I don't know if it's that good in the [24:31] summertime as it is the winter. But [24:33] winter is our toughest time, is it? But [24:35] it hasn't been a very bad winter. [24:37] >> Nope. That's That's right. We've had [24:39] some hot and cold flashes and that's that's tough. If it if it was [24:43] just cold all winter, that'd be one [24:45] thing. We can manage that. But when it [24:47] gets up to 45 or 50 and then down to 30, [24:50] that the plant reacts a little [24:51] differently in those shoulder months. [24:53] But we're doing well. What did we end up [24:56] doing with our uh oil monitoring? Are we [24:59] still sending in samples or [25:01] >> We are. Yep. [25:02] >> What are we going to do for vibration? [25:04] Did you guys decide? [25:05] >> We've got some good intel on that and [25:07] we've got a few different options lined [25:08] up. Um [25:10] cost comparison is where we stand right [25:12] now. And um we've got our table built of [25:16] every piece of equipment that we think [25:17] would need it. Um it's just a matter of [25:21] getting the water and the wastewater on [25:22] the same page and and figuring out [25:25] whether we want to commit to it based on [25:27] the cost and still a little bit of [25:29] investigation but we are making headway. [25:31] >> I was I was hearing some negative things [25:33] about the global vibration detection. It [25:37] gets it can get quite expensive. So if [25:40] you have a handle on what equipment [25:43] you've got and everything then and you can lock that in then you're [25:48] doing great [25:49] >> right? [25:49] >> But a lot of the plants they change [25:52] management then all of a sudden they [25:53] start adding to it and when they add it [25:57] starts to get exponential instead of [26:00] linear. [26:00] >> Right. [26:01] >> And so as long as we're not adding [26:04] equipment they said and and you can lock [26:07] that in. You'll be doing great. [26:09] >> Sure. and they said it's pretty hard to [26:11] beat that comparing to trying to one [26:14] train your people and get the machine [26:18] and keep track of the data and then [26:20] human error, [26:21] >> right? [26:21] >> Those are the things that are too many [26:24] variables and so they say it's really [26:27] advantage with the global system, but [26:30] the catch is if they expand it, it [26:33] really catches you. So, [26:35] >> sure, great point. Thank you, sir. [26:40] Okay, let's move on to Leileis. [26:43] >> Thank you, Mr. Chair and board. So, this [26:46] is the compliance of our legal [26:48] requirements. Um, we are in compliance [26:51] with the legal requirements that we're [26:53] required to complete. Um, the blue [26:57] highlighted is the ones we have [26:58] completed. [27:00] We submitted the salaries and benefits [27:03] information that goes on the public [27:06] transparency website and we also have [27:13] done the quarterly to budget actual [27:14] reports to the transparency website and [27:17] of course today just a minute I'm going [27:19] to report to the board for that. Uh the [27:23] semianual money management report has [27:26] been submitted. It was due December 30, [27:28] January 31st. Um, [27:32] what else? Uh, water use report. Clint [27:35] reported. We have completed that. [27:39] >> The only thing I have highlighted coming [27:41] up is the uh, public hearing for impact [27:45] fee impact fees next week, Thursday at 6 [27:50] PM. [27:52] >> 6 PM. [27:53] >> Other than that, we are in compliance. [27:55] Mr. chair, if you want me, does anybody [27:57] have any questions on that? [27:59] >> I don't have none. The board have any [28:01] questions? Okay. [28:04] >> If you would like, I can proceed into [28:05] the financials. [28:06] >> I actually went through this and I [28:08] thought it looked good to me. So, [28:09] >> I thought it looks really good, too. Um, [28:11] we ended up with showing an income, [28:15] >> right? [28:15] >> A little bit smaller than last year. [28:17] >> I don't think it was high enough. You [28:18] need to raise it. [28:19] >> I I would go probably low on the list [28:23] compared. I looked at Karns and some of [28:24] them. It's astronomical compared, but [28:28] >> like how much they ended up with. [28:30] >> They they charge a lot more for impact [28:32] fees than we do. [28:34] >> We're on the low side. [28:35] >> Yeah. [28:36] >> But Nathan said we have to follow in [28:38] line with this requirement. [28:40] >> Yes, we do. [28:41] >> So Nathan, is there a bill up there on [28:45] the hill about the impact fees being [28:49] >> No, what you're referring to is a bill. [28:53] So, the challenge that the state's [28:55] facing, and I think this is part of [28:58] probably what's prompting Jordan Valley [29:00] with some of its rates, is that all the [29:02] infrastructure that we're currently [29:04] using was built many decades ago. It's [29:07] reaching the end of its design life, and [29:08] it was built with a lot of public money, [29:10] both from the federal government in the [29:11] state. All that federal money and all [29:14] that state is is gone for the most part. [29:16] And so, the the legislature is looking [29:19] at a $34 billion price tag to keep just [29:22] to maintain our infrastructure. So, the [29:24] bill I think that you're referring to at [29:26] the league meeting is there's a bill [29:28] that would [29:30] essentially what they should do in my [29:31] opinion is appropriate money, but I [29:33] think they they've moved to a different [29:35] model in which they're essentially doing [29:38] pass through fees. And so this model [29:40] would require every public water [29:42] supplier, which you guys would qualify [29:45] as, to impose a fee that would be based [29:49] upon the median income level in your [29:51] service area, multiplied that by a [29:53] percentage. I think it's 3% if it's if [29:55] you do water and sewer, which you do, [29:57] and then divide that by your [29:59] connections. And I think when Trevor did [30:01] the math, what was that was like $14 [30:04] million and $1,400? [30:06] >> Oh, it was 20 million. 20 million. [30:09] >> Yeah. [30:09] >> And so I' I've been checking with my [30:10] other water suppliers and I've seen you [30:13] guys are actually the lowest. Everybody [30:15] else is going to be like $2,500 per [30:17] connection. Um [30:19] >> and I think that's maybe just due to the [30:21] difference in the median income levels. [30:23] >> Um I don't know where that bill is going [30:25] to go. It's it's but but the point is is [30:28] the state's trying to come up with [30:29] creative ways to fund stuff. Water [30:31] suppliers are trying to come up with [30:32] creative ways to fund stuff. So, I'm not [30:35] really aware of anything with impact [30:36] fees, but with these type of pass [30:38] through fees that are being kind of and this is conceptually in line with [30:43] the bill that we talked about last year, [30:45] which was that you'd have to oppose a [30:47] similar fee that would based on usage [30:50] for [30:50] >> to fund drinking water infrastructure. [30:52] This would go into a similar fund, but [30:53] it would be more for water supply. [30:55] >> And I think if it passes, you would have [30:59] the option of participating in it this [31:01] year. uh well January 1st, 2027 and if [31:05] you didn't participate in it, you [31:06] wouldn't be eligible for state funding [31:08] in that fund. But then I think it [31:10] becomes mandatory in 2030. So um so I [31:15] don't know if that'll pass, [31:16] >> but talking major money. I mean that's [31:19] >> but but that's that's the reality is [31:22] that the [31:24] whatever you're paying for water either [31:27] here or anywhere else in the state, it's [31:29] going to be more. And the question is is [31:32] how much more. And so the idea is to try [31:34] to get ahead of it. And that to be fair [31:36] to the legislature, they are trying to [31:39] tackle this issue and get ahead of it [31:40] before so it's instead of it being a [31:42] $1,400 [31:44] annual increase instead of it being a [31:46] $5,000 annual increase because the [31:48] longer it takes to fix this stuff. But [31:50] as part of that, um the [31:55] most districts aren't charging enough [31:58] water or money for the water. And so [32:00] when you go to get bonds and things, the [32:03] they're going to take a harder look is are your rates high enough? So why [32:07] should the other taxpayers in the state [32:08] pay for your infrastructure because you [32:10] haven't been charging enough? Not saying [32:12] that's the case here, but that is a [32:13] pretty common thing. But impact fees are that's a totally separate process [32:18] that's governed by some constitutional [32:20] principles and that's based upon what [32:22] the actual impact is. So, we've gone [32:24] through an analysis and I I think the [32:26] difference, Jeff, between what we may be [32:28] charging, what another district is, is [32:30] it probably costs more there and that's [32:32] why the impact fees are higher. [32:34] >> Well, I I've been impressed that we've [32:36] been able to get grants and stuff to [32:38] help with some of our stuff, but we we [32:40] do have older pipes and stuff that have [32:42] to be done, but I think Trevor and you [32:45] guys have really done a good job trying [32:46] to keep ahead of that. So, [32:49] >> yeah. And that's that's a little bit of [32:51] kind of the challenge with some of these [32:53] things because because if and I'm I'm [32:56] not a legislator. I know what it's like [32:57] to be in their shoes, but to me the [32:59] simplest thing would just be for the [33:00] state to raise taxes or raise funding [33:02] and just appropriate that rather than [33:04] having these disperate fees that are [33:07] going to impact every district and every [33:08] water user differently. But um there is [33:12] this I think approach to kind of move to [33:14] a more feebased approach to thing. But [33:16] that particular fear is really just an [33:18] income tax. just apply locally rather [33:20] than at a a state level. [33:24] >> Thanks, Nathan. Yeah, Elis, I think it [33:28] looks good. [33:28] >> Okay, cool. [33:29] >> You guys are [33:29] >> And just to report, um, [33:32] >> we are within budget and our expenses, [33:34] so when we submit our audit at the end of this year or next year, [33:41] the state will be happy. [33:42] >> Okay. [33:43] with with the hearing we've got next uh Thursday, then we make a ruling on it [33:51] the following meeting. [33:53] >> No, the um agenda is set up to [33:57] uh have the hearing. So, any public that [33:59] attends, they'll have a a time to make [34:02] comment [34:03] >> on the proposed changes and then [34:06] >> uh we if the board sees fit, we can [34:09] approve that right there. We can [34:11] >> in that meeting. We approve it in the [34:13] meeting. Okay. [34:14] >> I uh I'll also just point out a couple [34:18] things I that stood out to me. I think [34:21] it's a testament to the operations [34:24] managers especially um and their teams [34:28] on the engineering side as well. We [34:31] reduced our expenses from we're we we [34:34] were less in 2025 than we were in 2024. [34:38] Um, which tells me that we were we used [34:43] our resources better, we used less, we [34:47] used our people more efficiently. Um, I [34:49] think that's great to see when you see [34:51] our contractual services. Uh, we reduced [34:55] those substantially, [34:57] $168,000 [34:59] from year to year. our materials and [35:02] supplies went down minimally, but uh [35:05] considering cost increases in those to [35:09] see that drop down, I was pleased to see [35:12] that. Um [35:14] >> yeah, I was noticing how that all [35:15] dropped down. So, [35:16] >> yeah. So, I mean, these guys are they're [35:19] really doing a good job on that. [35:20] >> That's right. So, when's the steak fry? [35:23] >> So, just I wanted to highlight that for [35:26] the [35:26] >> Thanks you guys. Appreciate you guys [35:28] looking out. [35:29] >> Good job. [35:31] Okay, let's move on to Andrew. [35:34] >> All right, thanks board and chair. Uh, [35:38] first thing is I've been in [35:40] communication with the uh, Fourth of [35:42] July committee from the city. [35:44] >> Okay. Who are you talking to with that? [35:47] >> Is it Janda Hans? [35:49] >> I can't remember. [35:50] >> She's the new She's the new [35:51] >> I think it must be. [35:52] >> Okay. Okay. [35:53] >> She reached out. Um, they have a 30-foot [35:56] trailer that they're going to be able to [35:57] float out of and they're looking for [36:01] somewhere to store it. We don't really [36:02] have anywhere to store it. Um, I let her [36:06] know that none of our facilities met [36:08] that [36:10] uh [36:13] what they'd be looking for. It's too [36:15] harsh of an environment to be storing [36:17] them and too much liability on our end. [36:19] >> Well, as the mayor, and I'm speaking for [36:21] the city, no, we don't. They're gonna [36:23] have to figure something else out [36:24] because we can't do that. U we as a city [36:27] is building a float and through modern [36:29] display and they are going to they're [36:32] going to um house it for us and so we [36:37] plan on taking it out to other city [36:39] parades and then they'll we'll bring it [36:42] back and they'll put it back away. But [36:45] um [36:46] this situation that's happened kind of [36:48] came from the other previous chair that [36:51] actually told him to go ahead and build [36:53] this without approval. [36:55] >> And so I'm trying to find a way how we [36:57] can fund that float too. Um but right [37:01] now they need a place to build it and [37:06] then they need a place to be able to [37:07] house it. And I spoke with Granite [37:09] School District about maybe [37:12] um the mechanic shop down there, but [37:15] they don't want to engage in that unless [37:18] the city we end up buying that building. [37:22] But so yeah, I just my recommendation [37:27] and I'm going to go back to the water [37:29] side is we if we do it for one then and [37:32] I'm going to ask Nathan for legal help. [37:34] we do it for one then we pretty well [37:36] open the floodgate for everybody [37:38] >> that that's always a concern. I mean I [37:40] think that this is unique enough to the [37:42] community that you could probably make [37:43] an exception there but I mean it sounds [37:46] the issue Andrew is one we don't really [37:48] have a a facility that's suitable to [37:50] store. [37:50] >> We don't anywhere that's large enough to [37:52] fit it is either full or too harsh of an [37:55] environment to store it. We actually [37:58] back in the day when I first got on the [37:59] board, [38:01] Ed Hansen was the manager and he stored [38:03] a float down at the sewer plant where [38:06] and I guess when they pulled it out, it [38:09] was just nasty and stinky. [38:11] >> Just [38:14] >> Yeah. The only real option that we could [38:16] even offer if the board was in support [38:17] of it is to put it here in our out in [38:19] our lot, which wouldn't be protected. [38:21] >> Now, you know what? I just think it's my [38:23] recommendation is from the water side [38:26] and the board can decide. I just think [38:29] if we I don't think it's a good practice [38:32] to do that because I think if you do it [38:33] then [38:34] >> you know somebody else from the [38:36] community might want to bring something [38:37] up here and but you know I'm open to [38:40] what you guys want. [38:41] >> No liility liility is too high. Yeah. [38:45] >> When they done it before down at the [38:46] plant they put it in that press building [38:49] and it was bad. Oh, shoot. [38:53] >> Yeah, I think I think the manager is all [38:55] in agreement with that that it doesn't uh do us much. The other [39:00] thing that they they reached out about [39:02] was us using our water trailer at the church. I guess they're changing [39:08] locations where they're going to be [39:10] centered. [39:11] >> No, now that's all changed back. So, [39:12] they're going to do they're going to do [39:15] the breakfast. The nights of the [39:17] Columbus is going to do it down at the [39:18] Copper Park. [39:19] >> Okay. My recommendation I thought so [39:22] they didn't have to haul all the stuff [39:24] down to the pavilion at the park. Just [39:27] do it at your church. You could do the [39:29] 5K, start it there and go around. But [39:32] you got some of the Knight of Columbus [39:34] meet board members that don't want to do [39:36] that. They want to keep it down at the [39:38] park. And my deal is that's fine, but [39:40] you guys got to go get all your permits, [39:42] what you need to do to qualify. And then [39:44] I'll provide them three golf carts to [39:46] get people down and back for the [39:48] breakfast. And then we'll have the the [39:50] flag ceremony down there. And uh other [39:54] than that, there's nothing going to go [39:56] on down at the park at the day other [39:58] than that night for fireworks. [40:00] >> Okay. So, they may not be in need of [40:02] that water trailer anymore. [40:03] >> Well, [40:06] we're we're able [40:07] >> I'm actually going to see her tonight. [40:09] Um [40:11] >> so, she reached out to me and I haven't [40:13] heard back from her since [40:14] >> You have a phone number for Okay. Tell [40:17] me what that number is and I'll tell if [40:18] you got the right number. [40:19] >> I'll grab you tell me later. [40:21] >> So I can So we can supply that that [40:25] water trailer for them and then we could [40:28] use it for the parade. The one the one [40:31] thing that would change for us if we in [40:33] doing this would be we wouldn't want to [40:35] leave that trailer unmanned. [40:37] >> Oh, absolutely not. And so that would [40:39] mean that we are going to have to have [40:42] some spend money on having somebody [40:43] there from 7:00 a.m. till probably about [40:45] 1:30 2:00. [40:47] >> Right. Right. You know, and I don't [40:49] >> What day of the week is it? [40:51] >> It's a Saturday. [40:51] And I don't know if How [40:54] many cases of water, Dan, is in that [40:56] back room? There's [40:58] >> fourth of July. [41:00] >> 40. [41:01] >> And they only needed 150 [41:05] >> bottles. [41:05] is what? by the city council. [41:09] >> Uh [41:11] I think there's enough I think the [41:13] previous council [41:15] >> you can buy the bottled water for what [41:17] it cost to man a guy on that water [41:19] truck. [41:19] >> That's exact and and and and that's [41:21] where I'm at there too is I don't I [41:23] don't know if I want to spend taxpayer [41:25] money to pay somebody overtime and [41:27] especially they want to be with their [41:29] family on a Saturday and good luck [41:31] trying to find somebody to do it. Right. [41:33] >> Yeah. So, um, let me let me talk to her [41:36] tonight because I'll see her at a [41:38] meeting at six o'clock and we'll we'll [41:41] go down that route. [41:42] >> Okay. All right. Appreciate it. [41:44] >> Okay. Thank you. [41:45] >> The other thing that we've got going on [41:47] is we've got some of our newer employees [41:50] heading out to Flagger Training at the [41:52] end of the month. Get them certified. [41:54] Uh, we just started succession planning [41:56] this week. managers have uh filled out [42:01] some key uh positions as well as some of [42:05] their risks and headaches that's going [42:08] on right now so that we can start [42:10] planning. Um up next we'll send out a [42:13] survey to the employees and then we'll [42:15] follow up from there with with meetings. [42:18] Uh we are [42:21] we've got Jean registered to do his uh [42:26] qualified water efficient landscaper [42:28] course through Jordan Valley. [42:30] >> Okay. [42:30] >> Um we're excited about that. And that's [42:33] it for me today unless there's any other [42:35] questions. [42:36] >> I had a question but I forgot what it [42:37] was and when I think about it I'll bring [42:38] it back to you. [42:40] >> Thank you. [42:41] >> So okay thank you. So, let's do let's [42:44] move on to our project award and [42:46] agreements, I guess. Is it Trevor? [42:50] >> I'll give you just on this first one. [42:52] >> Okay. [42:52] >> Um, so these are a list of our annual [42:58] um [43:00] vendor purchase agreements. These are [43:03] larger purchases that we do and they're [43:07] primarily soul source, meaning we can't [43:10] reasonably find an alternative in the [43:13] valley um that meets our needs. Uh so we [43:18] wanted to make sure that we brought [43:20] these to the board because they exceeded [43:22] the $50,000 [43:24] limit that I have authority to approve. [43:27] >> Did we not get rid of chlorine or [43:30] fluoride? [43:30] >> Fluoride. Yeah, fluoride's not included [43:32] in this. [43:33] >> I don't know of anybody else that sells [43:34] chlorine. [43:36] >> So, did we only So, you're only approved [43:38] up to 50. [43:38] >> Yeah. Yeah. [43:39] >> Will you do me a favor? Will you bring [43:40] that back next month? I think we need to [43:42] lift that approval. [43:43] >> Okay. [43:44] >> If you will, please. [43:45] >> Mhm. [43:46] >> Um, but if you have any questions on any [43:49] of these, they're prepared to discuss [43:51] those. Um, they're all necessary and [43:55] we've made the determination that [43:57] they're required. Uh, but we still want [44:00] to make sure that the board So, do we [44:02] Nathan, do we have to go through one by [44:04] one to approve them? [44:05] >> I would I think you could probably It's [44:07] not It's not listed as a common consent [44:11] item, but I think you probably could. I don't see any reason why you wouldn't. [44:15] I mean what I would suggest as I [44:17] understand it Clint these are these are [44:21] >> soul source [44:21] >> items that that qualify for the soul [44:23] source procurement policy and you've [44:25] gone through the soul source process [44:28] which means you wouldn't necessarily [44:29] need the board's approval anyway but but [44:31] because it exceeds the small [44:33] >> purchase threshold in an interest of [44:35] being transparent you're bringing it to [44:36] the board. [44:37] >> Yes. [44:37] >> So the reality is the board doesn't even [44:40] need to approve at all but it couldn't [44:42] hurt to have the board's blessing. So if [44:44] that's the case, you could probably just [44:45] do one motion to approve them all unless [44:47] you have concerns about individual [44:50] amounts. [44:51] >> So there's more companies than Eckles [44:52] Painting. That's silly one item. [44:55] >> That's And that one is not soul source, [44:57] but it is the state contract. [44:59] >> Oh, it is. [44:59] >> Yeah. [45:01] >> And that meets the small purchase. [45:04] >> Okay. That's why they're on there. [45:05] >> That's why they're on there. But Steve [45:06] can tell you that's for specific [45:09] circumstances when we can't do it [45:10] ourselves. [45:11] >> Yeah. That's for the bigger jobs like on [45:13] the moratorum stuff that the county the [45:16] new pavement that they require us to to [45:19] some of the stuff that they require us [45:20] to do. They require us to go 15 ft each [45:23] side of the cut on [45:25] >> ridiculous. [45:26] >> Yeah, exactly. And so some of them cuts [45:28] end up depending on where the hole is, [45:30] it can end up 40t wide and the entire [45:33] width of the road. [45:34] >> I'd like you guys to get a bid from [45:36] Granite Construction now the asphalt [45:38] plant's going down there to compete with [45:39] Morgan. [45:40] >> Good. Yeah, that'll be good to get a bid [45:42] from them on on asphalt now [45:44] >> for like the stuff that we do. [45:46] >> Yeah. [45:46] Yeah. [45:46] >> Because they're good quality, too. I I [45:49] don't know if they're any better than [45:51] Morgan, but they would be as good, [45:53] possibly better. [45:54] >> And they might give us a deal because [45:55] we're just right here. [45:56] >> I think so. I think so. They they want [45:59] to be a friendly neighbor. [46:01] >> Sounds good. [46:02] >> Definitely worth checking. [46:04] >> So, do we want to approve [46:06] >> the way they're listed or do we need to [46:08] call each one out? [46:08] >> So, let me make sure. So Jeff, do you [46:11] was was your comment there about the [46:12] Eckles paving? Do you want another bid [46:14] for that one? [46:15] >> No, no, no. This is a state bid, so it's [46:18] okay. [46:19] >> He's talking about for the jobs [46:21] >> when we do our own stuff. [46:22] >> Oh. Oh, so that's not on the agenda. [46:24] >> Okay. Sorry. Um, yeah, I think you could [46:27] do a you could do a motion to approve [46:30] items one A through G. [46:32] >> Okay. So, Mr. Chairman, I'd like to make [46:35] a motion to approve uh project awards [46:38] and agreements u of these vendors annual [46:42] purchase amounts uh A through G. [46:45] >> Second that motion and second [46:47] >> I so I was just telling Le so going back [46:52] to approval, you know, raising your [46:54] limit. I I would be totally comfortable [46:56] with $100,000 because that would take a [46:58] lot of this off here. [47:00] >> Yeah, it would. [47:02] >> And that way we don't have to bring that [47:05] Okay, let's move on to Haneswells number seven. [47:09] >> Okay. Um, so as you know, we were doing [47:12] the Haneswell 7 rehabilitation project. [47:16] Um, that's been completed for a while [47:19] and during that process, we had to um [47:25] develop the well a little bit more and [47:28] there were a few sections within that were stubborn. we were getting the [47:33] sand down to a acceptable level and it [47:36] took more than the hours that were in [47:38] the original contract. [47:40] And so that's that's basically what this [47:43] is. We just got the cost from the the [47:46] contractor and so bringing that back to [47:48] you. Um we were trying to reach a level [47:51] of 100 parts per million or less in each [47:54] zone. They break them up in like 10 foot [47:56] zones and there were a couple about 20 [47:58] ft that was higher than that. And it was [48:01] to our benefit to get that sand down [48:04] lower one for the pump itself. And then [48:06] once that water reaches the EDR, we're [48:09] not clogging up those pref filters. [48:10] >> You get the sand down. You bail it out. [48:13] >> Well, they essentially Yeah. develop [48:15] with a dual swab tool that will pull put [48:18] like push and pull that material until [48:21] the sand is [48:22] >> makes it settle or they pull it out. [48:23] >> They pull it out. They bell it. [48:25] >> Yeah. [48:26] >> But they're basically directing the [48:29] water in a certain zone. Yeah. They'll [48:30] go down in like 20 foot zones and just [48:34] work that zone and then once the sand [48:37] >> pulling it in through the [48:38] >> Yeah. [48:38] >> through the [48:39] >> Yeah. So getting all those You have your [48:41] gravel pack, but there's fine sands that [48:44] will make it through that. So they're [48:45] trying to get rid of all of that back [48:47] in. So we're not pulling that in when we [48:49] pump. [48:50] >> Well, that's pretty cheap if we got it [48:52] to meet the requirement. [48:53] >> Yeah. And it's been up and running. Um [48:56] they've been using that all winter and [48:59] it's [48:59] >> allong. So [49:00] >> that sand will cost us in a pump cost. [49:03] >> Yes. As well as at the edr. So a [49:05] >> lot more than that. [49:06] >> Very beneficial for us to get that to [49:08] where we are comfortable and it's you [49:11] know not producing sand. So [49:14] >> okay. So Mr. Chairman like to make a [49:16] motion to approve uh Hannes well number [49:20] seven rehabilitation project change [49:22] order with turban services for [49:25] $26,262.50. [49:30] I'll second that. [49:31] >> Motion second. All in favor? I [49:33] >> I [49:33] >> thank you. [49:35] >> Okay. Approval of the UASD [49:39] 2026 annual membership dues. [49:42] >> Um yeah, I can I can take that and Le [49:45] can support it. Uh she put this [49:47] together. Obviously, this is to continue [49:50] our membership in the Utah Association [49:53] of Special Districts. [49:55] um they charge their fees, membership [50:00] fees based on your annual operating [50:02] budget. So, you have to go uh into that [50:05] table that's in your uh packet and find [50:10] where we are in there and then the [50:13] equivalent fee. So, we're in that 9 [50:15] million to $15 million range and that's [50:19] where the $12,68 [50:22] is. I think that's fairly significant [50:25] cost for a membership. Um, so it's not [50:29] something that uh we just want to rubber [50:32] stamp on, but I will say that we have [50:34] found in our experience that they've [50:38] actually done quite a bit for the [50:40] district. Um and anytime we've had an [50:43] issue where they could provide lobbying [50:47] efforts on uh they've been active in [50:50] trying to set up meetings with the [50:52] legislature [50:54] and then they also provide the annual [50:56] training. So I think it's a worthwhile [50:58] effort from my opinion but I think the [51:00] >> I don't like to see how they charge it [51:02] based on your annual your your gross [51:05] amount. I would rather see them base it [51:07] on your population of the community, [51:10] >> but but we don't see the stuff they do [51:12] at the legislature and stuff. And I'm all for them. I think they do a [51:17] great job, the training and everything [51:18] they do, and they they'll back us up [51:20] 100%. [51:22] >> Yeah. If that's something that you'd [51:23] like me to bring up in a [51:26] >> I just think it it looks bad if it's kind of like insurance. If they [51:30] base it on your gross volume, that [51:32] doesn't say the risk you have. I mean, [51:35] the fact that we do water and sewer um [51:37] and our population, our community, I [51:40] think would be a better to me it would [51:42] seem more realistic than your gross uh [51:46] revenue. [51:48] >> I just don't think that reflects on how [51:50] much water, you know, we do it all. But [51:52] and and I'm not just I'm just saying the [51:55] way they report it, but I think what [51:57] they do I I have no qualms about that at [51:59] all. Yeah, Nathan might have some longer [52:02] term insight into why they do it this [52:04] way. [52:04] >> I I don't have much background on [52:08] >> it's it's always been that way. I think [52:11] at least during my tenure as an adviser [52:13] to their board. Uh it's not something I [52:16] because just to explain my rel I'm an [52:18] adviser to their board. I'm not a board [52:20] member because I'm not actually part of [52:22] a district. Um, I used to be an exeicio [52:25] member, but then that they had to change [52:26] that due to I think some tax issues, but [52:29] um, so I'm not exact. I think it's it [52:31] was probably done because I have a very [52:33] small staff and it was an easier way to [52:35] do it. Um, but that's certainly [52:37] something you could raise with them as a [52:39] member. Um, I will say in terms of what [52:42] they provide, um, I'm I'm a lobbyist. [52:46] I'm registered for you guys, but I'm I'm [52:48] a subject matter lobbyist. So what that [52:50] means is I get involved if there's an [52:53] issue but Heather and Lrand are up there [52:55] all the time and for you guys to get [52:58] essentially they are in a way [52:59] functioning for your lob as as your [53:02] lobbyists that are up there not not the [53:04] expert that come so what they'll do is [53:05] they'll say hey Nathan what does this [53:06] impact Magnum water or I can let Magna [53:09] Water know we go up there every Tuesday [53:11] and and keep track of bills and that's [53:13] you sending you guys [53:14] >> yeah he he sends us Lrand sends it daily [53:17] yeah [53:18] >> daily emails and I'm impressed with him, [53:21] by the way. [53:22] >> Yeah, all of them. I have no qualms [53:24] about it whatsoever. [53:25] >> To give you an idea, if you didn't use [53:27] them, the cost of having another [53:28] lobbyist do that for you would be like [53:30] 70 grand. [53:32] >> You That shouldn't even come out of your [53:33] mouth. [53:34] >> Yeah. [53:34] >> For what the backing, we don't even know [53:36] all the stuff they do at the [53:37] legislature. I'm just saying when I see [53:40] that, it doesn't reflect on how many [53:42] people we're serving. I think that would [53:44] be better for the population and the [53:46] fact we do sewer and water. [53:48] >> I I just It reminds me of insurance when [53:51] you see it rated by how many million you [53:53] do. I just don't think that's reflective [53:57] on our community. [53:59] >> That's all. [53:59] >> It's a good idea. [54:00] >> Yeah, we can pass that information [54:02] along. [54:02] >> I don't like to hear that's an easy way [54:04] to to do it. I [54:05] >> And don't quote me on that. I don't [54:07] know. I I think what I think the my And [54:10] actually, you know what? I don't want to [54:11] guess as to why they did it that way [54:13] because I don't know. [54:13] >> No, no, that's okay. I I'm just saying I [54:16] It's just me inside. Yeah, it's always [54:19] been that way. [54:20] >> Always it's always good to ask those [54:22] questions though. [54:23] >> Yeah, just because that's been the way [54:24] it's been. And I will say it if if it's [54:27] something that you raise, they will [54:28] bring it up at the next board meeting. [54:30] They will say, "Hey, [54:31] >> I I I'm not complaining about their [54:32] services." And I'm not complaining what [54:34] we pay. I'm just saying the way they [54:36] rate that uh I think [54:40] it's not very accurate. [54:44] But I'm not complaining of what we pay [54:46] because the services we get, there's a [54:48] lot of things they do. We don't even see [54:50] what they do. [54:50] >> Okay. [54:51] >> So, I have no qualms over that. [54:53] >> Sounds good. [54:54] >> I I I it it just kind of irks me because [54:57] the insurance company comes in and they [55:00] charge me by my gross sales. It doesn't [55:02] charge me by my net profit, which could [55:06] be zero. They charge you by your gross [55:08] sales. It doesn't even charge me by my [55:11] exposure, [55:12] you know, as far as how many employees I [55:14] have or anything else. It's done on [55:16] gross sales. And I that just drives me [55:19] crazy. [55:20] >> So, they have a board meeting tomorrow [55:22] at 8:30 [55:24] that I will be able to attend part of. I [55:27] can raise it then if you want. [55:31] >> I don't think it hurts to ask. [55:32] >> Yeah, I can ask. [55:33] >> Good to ask. I I think it's just like I [55:37] said, [55:37] >> I think what you're getting at to me is [55:41] would we be paying more providing dual [55:44] services because [55:47] the dual service is reflected in our [55:50] cost, but that it's not dual population. [55:54] We're providing dual services for [55:57] 30,000. So whether we were just [55:59] providing water or just providing sewer, [56:02] >> right, [56:02] >> it would be less. It would be less [56:04] potentially. Now for another agency that [56:06] just does water, [56:07] >> right, [56:07] >> only and they have the same population [56:09] and then another district provides sewer [56:11] to that same [56:12] >> right [56:13] >> population. They would both be paying, [56:16] >> you know, [56:16] >> I'm just saying they're using this for [56:18] an easy calculation and I'm not sure it [56:20] represents. And like I said, I'm I'm not [56:23] complaining about what we pay. U maybe [56:26] in some cases it should be a little [56:28] higher, but they do a great job. I just [56:31] think that's a quick and dirty way to [56:32] calculate it and I don't know maybe that's the fairest way. I don't [56:37] know. [56:37] >> Yeah, it does capture the sewer and [56:40] water but like I said u I don't know. [56:49] » Okay, we could just ask him is there any [56:52] other way to calculate it? Yeah, [56:54] >> I think that's reasonable. [56:55] >> If you think about a company that [56:57] services just water, I would imagine [57:00] their numbers would be lower for the [57:02] same population possibly. [57:03] >> Right. Right. [57:04] >> Or if you're buying Jordan Valley water, [57:06] then they would be higher and you'd pay [57:08] more. [57:10] >> That's right. [57:10] >> That's a good point, huh? [57:12] >> If you're having to buy the water and [57:14] then do it, then you're paying more, [57:16] right? And then you've got you're you're [57:18] double paying because you got them [57:20] lobbying plus Jordan Valley lobbying. I [57:23] don't know. [57:25] >> I guess I better just shut up. [57:27] >> No. Good questions. [57:28] >> I got fell asleep. No, I'm just kidding. [57:32] >> Okay. You want to Someone wants to [57:34] motion this. [57:36] >> Yeah. Uh Mr. Chairman, I'll motion to [57:38] approve the US UASD 2026 annual [57:42] membership dues for $12,68. [57:46] I'll second that [57:47] >> in. Motion second. All in favor? [57:49] >> I [57:52] motion carries. [57:56] » I'm sorry, Mr. Chair. On this agenda, [57:58] for some reason, I forgot to put names [58:00] by the items. So, I think the next item [58:04] >> I was just guessing. [58:05] >> I know. I apologize. [58:07] >> No, you're good. [58:09] We wanted to get clarification on and [58:12] wishes from the board on when they want [58:15] us to start putting out the election [58:18] notice. Clint, you can [58:20] >> Yeah. So, I think we talked last time [58:23] about the aisle had put together a plan, [58:25] >> right? [58:26] >> But we didn't really ask for the board's [58:28] guidance on when to publish and put [58:32] these notices out. Um, in the past, LEIL [58:37] has typically waited till we're much [58:40] closer to the time to notify and open a [58:47] vacancy, you know, of the board. And so [58:51] I think last time in the conversation [58:54] there was some discussion about doing [58:57] that right away, but wanted to make sure [59:00] that the board wanted to go that [59:02] direction. [59:03] Um, [59:05] >> and Clint, if I may, yeah, I think that [59:06] was that was my recommendation is that [59:09] we have had [59:11] >> the candidacy declaration filing is is a [59:14] little confusing because our [59:15] requirements are a little different than [59:16] the municipalities and we've had some [59:18] just legitimate misunderstandings with [59:20] people that have come in to file. And so [59:22] my concern when we made the change the [59:24] election date is we wanted to give [59:26] citizens ample time. And so we have [59:30] legal notices that we have to do, but we [59:32] had talked before of just doing [59:33] voluntary stuff to just say, "Hey [59:35] everyone, we've had a change in election [59:37] year. They're now be on even years." And [59:40] so if you want to file, the new deadline [59:42] is this. And then maybe send out I was [59:45] thinking we're kind of a before you do [59:46] the actual legal notice doing some just [59:49] PR notice to educate [59:51] >> maybe a month ahead or what do you [59:52] think? [59:53] >> But that's that's where we want to get [59:56] on. My recommendation [59:58] >> because this is [59:59] >> My recommendation would be that you do [1:00:01] something now. Not the legal notice [1:00:04] because it's too soon, but that you do [1:00:06] something [1:00:06] >> wait till May. [1:00:07] >> Well, that's May. You can [1:00:09] >> I think you want that's what that's your [1:00:11] guys's call. Yeah. When do you want to [1:00:14] >> wait till a month ahead? Do it in May. [1:00:18] >> What what's our what is our legal part? [1:00:20] When do we have [1:00:21] >> the legal requirements? May 1st, we [1:00:23] notify the elections office that we do [1:00:25] have an election coming up. [1:00:26] >> Okay. [1:00:27] >> That it's not public and but the actual [1:00:30] requirement for the notice of candidacy [1:00:32] is only 10 days before. [1:00:34] >> Well, I I'd say we do at the same time [1:00:35] that we tell them that would that be [1:00:38] okay if we do it this time notifying [1:00:40] we're having [1:00:40] >> and to be fair, we had already notified [1:00:42] them last year that there was a change. [1:00:45] >> Yeah, that's been on our website. [1:00:47] >> That's right. Yeah, that's right. [1:00:49] >> So, is is that okay if we do it? Yeah, I [1:00:51] and I think that's the board's decision. [1:00:54] >> What do you think? [1:00:54] >> Um, and we just want to make sure we're [1:00:56] in alignment [1:00:57] >> when the kickoff is kind of right. [1:01:01] >> What do you say? [1:01:03] >> Wait, like you said, [1:01:05] >> have it the same time we [1:01:06] >> So maybe begin that PR [1:01:09] >> the 1st of May, [1:01:10] >> right? When do they have to file? [1:01:12] >> June 1st through the 8th. [1:01:14] >> Yeah. Yeah. That that's that's the issue [1:01:16] is the thing is is the way a lot of [1:01:19] these legal notices are set up complying [1:01:21] with the law. A lot of members of the [1:01:23] public don't think that that's [1:01:24] sufficient. [1:01:26] >> Well, I needed more time and you should [1:01:28] have let me know. And [1:01:29] >> so so let me ask you a question. How did [1:01:31] that work last year with the the mayor's [1:01:34] race? When when did you have I forgot [1:01:36] when I had to file. I mean, when did it [1:01:38] come up saying that we were going to [1:01:39] elect our first mayor and when I forgot [1:01:42] when that was and when I had a sign up [1:01:44] and then all I know is it went on for [1:01:46] six months. [1:01:47] >> Yeah, it was May, wasn't it? [1:01:49] >> I think I'm trying to remember with [1:01:51] probably Yeah, it So, we were able to [1:01:54] get [1:01:54] >> We don't want signs out on the lot right [1:01:56] now. [1:01:57] >> No, you don't want You're not [1:01:58] campaigning. I never heard any [1:01:59] complaints from that, [1:02:01] >> Nathan, that that we changed and [1:02:03] everything. Everybody seemed really good [1:02:05] about [1:02:06] >> Yeah. Nobody Nobody complained to me [1:02:07] about it. I didn't hear anything. [1:02:09] >> The other change though is that we got [1:02:12] with the USD, me and Heather and Lrand [1:02:15] were able to get a change last year so [1:02:16] that your declaration of candidacy [1:02:18] filing period is actually in June [1:02:19] because it was going to be [1:02:21] >> Yeah, I said now. [1:02:23] >> Oh, [1:02:23] >> and so that's [1:02:24] >> it was going to be you had to file in [1:02:25] January, right? [1:02:25] >> Yeah. Yeah. And so the point is is when [1:02:27] we did the notice last year, we were [1:02:29] thinking we'd have that was before we [1:02:31] did the legislation. And so what's [1:02:33] changed isn't just your elections [1:02:34] changed, the law has changed from it [1:02:36] being now in into June. [1:02:39] >> Okay. [1:02:42] >> Yeah, that's too short. [1:02:45] >> So I it's really your call. I mean, we [1:02:46] could just do the the standard notice [1:02:48] and we don't have to do anything more [1:02:49] than that [1:02:50] >> days ahead. [1:02:51] >> Yeah, that's that's what the law [1:02:52] requires. We we didn't make this is on [1:02:56] the website right now. Trevor could [1:02:57] probably pull it up. Um we don't have [1:03:00] any dates. We just said it would not we [1:03:04] would not hold an election [1:03:05] >> right [1:03:06] >> in 2025. We didn't say it'd be in [1:03:08] January or anything. Um so I think [1:03:12] you're good with [1:03:13] >> Did you guys get any feedback on that? [1:03:15] No. Cuz I never got no feedback on it. [1:03:17] >> You can see this is still on there. Um [1:03:19] so we've notified them. I think now we [1:03:23] just [1:03:23] >> Okay. [1:03:24] >> When the board wants us to put out [1:03:27] >> the information if if 10 days that I [1:03:30] mean [1:03:31] >> in May. [1:03:31] >> Yeah. [1:03:32] >> May 1st. May 1st. [1:03:33] >> 10 days would [1:03:34] >> No, I say 10 days before June. [1:03:37] >> Yeah. 10 days. [1:03:38] >> June 1st to June 10th. [1:03:39] >> Middle of May. [1:03:40] >> Okay. [1:03:41] >> Yeah. I'd say middle of May then 10 days [1:03:43] before. [1:03:44] >> We'll just make sure we meet our [1:03:46] minimum. [1:03:48] >> Make sure it meets the criteria of the [1:03:49] minimum. [1:03:50] >> Yeah. So about the about the middle of [1:03:52] May we'll target. [1:03:53] >> Yeah. Let's [1:03:54] >> Okay. [1:03:56] >> All right. Sounds good. [1:03:58] >> Thank you. [1:03:59] >> So May then you got [1:04:00] >> marching. [1:04:02] >> Well and and to be fair when we first [1:04:04] started talking about it the real [1:04:05] concern is most people are used to [1:04:07] filing their Declaration of Kennedy in [1:04:08] June and we were going to be switching [1:04:10] to a year in which it was going to be in [1:04:11] January. [1:04:12] >> Yeah. [1:04:12] >> Now that it's June that's less of an [1:04:15] impact than what we talked about before. [1:04:17] >> Lot better. Great. [1:04:18] >> Better. [1:04:19] >> Okay. We'll do. [1:04:21] >> So, do we make a motion? We don't need [1:04:22] to make a motion on that. [1:04:23] >> No, I just think so. Just Okay. [1:04:26] >> Just on number two on the hearing or do [1:04:28] we [1:04:29] >> do we have to make a motion on the [1:04:30] hearing? [1:04:31] >> I we need to make a I'm sorry. We need [1:04:33] to make a motion stating that we are [1:04:35] holding [1:04:36] >> holding a public hearing. Okay. [1:04:38] >> So, Mr. Chairman, I'd like to make a [1:04:39] motion to uh hold a public hearing to be [1:04:43] held on February 19th, 2026 to be held [1:04:46] at 6 p.m. to allow the public comment on [1:04:49] the district's amended impact fee [1:04:51] facilities plan and amended impact fee [1:04:55] enactment. [1:04:56] >> I'll second that. [1:04:57] >> A motion second. All in favor? [1:04:59] >> I I [1:05:02] >> Okay, Nathan, [1:05:04] >> I already I already gave you said you [1:05:06] gave me the update. So there's [1:05:08] >> there the only other thing I would say [1:05:09] and and Mick is aware of this being at [1:05:11] the same meetings I am up there now with [1:05:14] the city is I I think there's a push [1:05:16] this session to we we've heard both from [1:05:20] uh President Adams and Speaker Schultz [1:05:22] in the league meetings and one of the [1:05:24] things they mentioned is that [1:05:27] they're they're they've been receiving a [1:05:29] push by their constituents on property [1:05:31] taxes and they were clear not not from [1:05:33] municipalities or districts. This was [1:05:35] coming from repres speaker Schultz but from school districts and and some [1:05:39] other things and so they're getting some [1:05:42] pressure on property taxes and so there [1:05:44] there's quite a few property tax reform [1:05:47] bills that are in the hopper. the [1:05:49] counties are one of the bigger targets [1:05:51] and so this is kind of working its way [1:05:54] through the I think the general [1:05:56] observation is I think there's a desire [1:05:58] to lessen the property tax burden and [1:06:01] move to more of a fee usagebased [1:06:03] approach to things and obviously the [1:06:06] devil's in the details but the concern [1:06:07] for districts is especially if you're [1:06:09] growing districts you can't grow it's so much easier to be able to bond [1:06:14] and use property tax revenue so right [1:06:16] now I'm not exactly sure how that'll [1:06:18] impact districts Um, I will say in terms [1:06:20] of timing, we're about halfway through [1:06:21] the session. They've, last I heard [1:06:23] earlier this week, they've passed about [1:06:25] 40 bills. I think that's probably [1:06:26] increased, but this is a record year in [1:06:29] terms of numbers of bills. There's [1:06:30] actually even [1:06:31] >> how many [1:06:31] >> there's there's even a bill from a [1:06:33] freshman representative, Representative [1:06:35] Okerland to limit how many bills they [1:06:37] can. But the long and short of we're [1:06:40] going to be seeing it's going to be [1:06:41] coming pretty fast and furious. And I [1:06:43] think I'll be texting [1:06:45] um uh Clint and Trevor, you know, on a [1:06:49] more regular basis of, hey, have you [1:06:50] seen this bill? Um so, but right now in [1:06:53] terms of water, there's that. There's [1:06:55] another bill from Representative Ward, [1:06:56] HB184, [1:06:58] that would allow um a property owner to [1:07:02] essentially propose their own lot [1:07:04] specific land use requirement. [1:07:06] >> Right. the the concern with that one, [1:07:09] it's intended to support starter homes, [1:07:11] which is also a big priority of [1:07:12] leadership this year. Um, and I'm not [1:07:15] entirely the bills. I don't fully [1:07:17] understand the I think the intent is is to kind of essentially get a variance [1:07:21] for your lot through a more simplistic [1:07:23] process rather than necessarily get a [1:07:25] building permit. But that's not entirely [1:07:27] clear because if they propose it, they [1:07:28] don't need to get a will serve letter [1:07:30] from you. They could just go to the city [1:07:33] and say, "Here's what I'd like to do." [1:07:35] the city would have some discretion to [1:07:37] deny it. And so it's not like it the [1:07:39] city would have to, but there's a [1:07:41] concern in the land use community that would kind of lead to statewide [1:07:45] zoning. And the concern that I I would [1:07:47] have is just the lack of consultation [1:07:49] with the utility on it. And I my [1:07:52] personal opinion is we I applaud the [1:07:54] whole idea of of starter homes. It's a [1:07:56] worthy goal because affordable housing [1:07:57] is the number one issue right now. But [1:08:01] we already have a development agreement [1:08:02] process where people can essentially do [1:08:04] that, [1:08:04] >> right? And one of the deal with the [1:08:06] leagues with the league is they're [1:08:08] talking about more affordable housing. [1:08:10] Well, it's kind of weird when you talk [1:08:12] about affordable housing and water, [1:08:14] right? With look at look at our water [1:08:17] where we're at right now. You know, [1:08:19] what's going to happen when spring comes [1:08:20] or whatever, but so how do you how do [1:08:23] you promote affordable housing? Are we [1:08:26] going to have enough water to for this [1:08:28] affordable housing? Right? I mean, it [1:08:30] was just kind of like it was just [1:08:31] >> Well, the interesting thing about that [1:08:33] bill is that it didn't really even [1:08:36] require that it be affordable. It's just [1:08:38] you would have to deed restrict the [1:08:39] property to sell it for at two years at [1:08:41] market rate, [1:08:42] >> right? [1:08:43] >> It was at or below market rate. So, that [1:08:45] was the comment I made at the league is [1:08:47] I wasn't quite sure what this would fix [1:08:48] because [1:08:50] >> if you're selling at a market rate, it's [1:08:52] not affordable or a starter home. But [1:08:54] anyway, I I typically just the way the [1:08:56] session works and I we probably won't [1:09:00] this is the last time we'll meet before [1:09:01] the end of the session. So, it's a [1:09:02] little bit of a challenge because most [1:09:04] of the bills that are going to be passed [1:09:06] are going to happen between now and the [1:09:07] end of the session before our next board [1:09:09] meeting. So, I what I would just make [1:09:12] sure that we're on the same page is that [1:09:15] we work with if if you guys are okay [1:09:17] with me working with Clint and then to [1:09:18] the extent needed, we can bring in Mick. [1:09:20] that sometimes we just need to may make [1:09:22] an executive decision on whether we're [1:09:24] going to oppose something or not in [1:09:25] accordance with your goals that we [1:09:27] understand [1:09:28] >> because we may not have time to convene [1:09:30] another board. [1:09:31] >> Okay. [1:09:31] >> I I do think that there [1:09:33] >> So that'll be in the next couple days. [1:09:35] >> Well, the session goes through the first [1:09:36] week of March. [1:09:37] >> Oh, first of March. [1:09:38] >> So, we're about we're half we're roughly [1:09:40] halfway through the session. [1:09:42] >> Wow. [1:09:42] >> But now is when all of the bills will be [1:09:44] passed. They usually spend the first [1:09:45] part of the session working out the [1:09:47] budget stuff and that's why they haven't [1:09:49] passed as much bills. [1:09:51] >> Um there is a lot of focus on water this [1:09:53] year. I I don't so far it hasn't really [1:09:55] been that impactful to you. [1:09:57] >> Um there's a lot on infrastructure. I [1:10:00] don't know how some of those build [1:10:01] bigger like there was one bill by S [1:10:03] SB198 which um by Senator Sandal which [1:10:07] would create a state water manager to to [1:10:10] potentially build large regional [1:10:12] infrastructure projects and local [1:10:14] districts or special districts could [1:10:15] propose projects. I don't know if that [1:10:18] bill will move. There's so right now I [1:10:22] I've mentioned the one that I think is [1:10:23] the biggest impact which would be that [1:10:24] potential fee. Uh the other one that you [1:10:27] guys are already doing is that if for [1:10:29] any water provider that's requiring a [1:10:31] water dedication that you would have to [1:10:34] have your 40-year plan in place, but you [1:10:35] guys already do. So we're that that [1:10:38] wouldn't impact you and actually I think [1:10:40] that's a good idea. Um so that's my [1:10:43] report. [1:10:44] >> I think Bowen Collins has done a great [1:10:46] job. I think that forecast we used and [1:10:48] everything's been really good. [1:10:50] >> I agree. [1:10:50] >> And it's prepared us for what's [1:10:52] upcoming. [1:10:53] >> I The only thing I don't like to is that [1:10:56] uh high density housing that can really [1:10:58] have a big impact on us and there's no [1:11:01] way you can plan for that other than uh [1:11:07] I don't know there's no way you can plan [1:11:09] for it. Uh maybe minimize it, limit it [1:11:12] or something. We'll just have to see. [1:11:14] >> Well, one of the things they said that [1:11:15] Speaker Schultz said when he spoke with [1:11:17] us that he's like, "We've put a lot of [1:11:19] focus on apartments and you guys have [1:11:21] stepped up to the plate. We've built a [1:11:22] lot of apartments and now we want to [1:11:23] shift to starter homes. So that to me [1:11:27] implies some lesser density. I mean, a [1:11:30] starter home is going to be less dense [1:11:31] than an apartment building. Um, those [1:11:33] starter homes they put down there on [1:11:35] 8,000 with Thomas Thomas property. Those are bad. I mean, big deep lots [1:11:43] with water in the in the crawl space and [1:11:46] everything. It was just not done right. [1:11:49] And I think if we take if they were to [1:11:52] put in everything they need to do, the [1:11:53] problem is even in high impact, it's [1:11:56] still 500,000. That's not affordable [1:11:59] housing. So the contractor is still [1:12:01] making their money, but it's not [1:12:03] affordable. [1:12:04] >> Well, that's that's the problem. [1:12:06] >> The problem I have with that whole [1:12:08] situation. So you turn around about [1:12:10] affordable housing. Okay. What is [1:12:12] affordable? I mean, I feel like Magna's [1:12:15] got probably the most affordable housing [1:12:17] out here, you know, out here around. And [1:12:20] they want us they want us to bring in [1:12:22] more affordable housing. Well, [1:12:24] >> I'm not in favor of that. And, you know, [1:12:27] about the apartment deal is [1:12:29] >> they said about building bring, you [1:12:30] know, doing more apartments. Well, what [1:12:32] do them people that rent them [1:12:34] apartments, do they invest in the city? [1:12:36] Absolutely not. They have nothing to [1:12:38] invest in the city. No, [1:12:39] >> they they might come to the store, but [1:12:41] other than doing anything else in the [1:12:42] city, they go outside of the city. [1:12:44] >> And that's what I'm trying to figure out [1:12:45] is our leakage from here to West Valley. [1:12:48] What we're what our leakage is [1:12:50] >> and all that stuff. But no, I just I [1:12:52] struggle with the high density housing. [1:12:55] That that's one thing I'm not I'm not [1:12:57] for. I feel like we we're dealing with [1:12:59] this up here. This has been nothing. Our [1:13:01] time's been spent up here with this [1:13:03] problem. [1:13:04] >> Yeah. We've had to bail them out. If we [1:13:06] didn't come with suggestions, that would [1:13:08] be even worse. [1:13:10] >> Uh anyhow, I mean, we'll we'll work [1:13:12] through it and see what we're at. But [1:13:14] our next board meeting is going to be [1:13:16] March 12th, uh 2026 here at 10:00 a.m. [1:13:21] >> Yeah. I I wanted to take a minute and [1:13:24] just thank all you guys, the whole [1:13:25] board, all you guys. It makes this job, [1:13:28] our job, look really easy, and we've all [1:13:31] worked together. And I think that's the [1:13:33] secret here. I want to just thank you [1:13:36] guys appreciation for you guys doing [1:13:38] such a good job [1:13:40] >> and trying to hold everything and we've [1:13:42] all learned together and I think it's [1:13:44] made it look real easy [1:13:46] >> but it's not. You guys put a lot of time [1:13:48] and effort into it and I want to thank [1:13:50] you guys for that. [1:13:51] >> Thank you. [1:13:51] >> Well, and I want to say one thing. [1:13:52] >> I feel the same way. It's it's really [1:13:54] been nice. All of you [1:13:56] >> bearing our testimonies. [1:13:58] So I so what I want to say is I really [1:14:00] do I really do appreciate you guys and I [1:14:02] know sometimes the board don't show [1:14:04] sometimes I don't feel like we show the [1:14:06] appreciation that you guys deserve [1:14:07] because you guys are out doing all the [1:14:09] footwork and and all that and all we do [1:14:11] is take the complaints right and not [1:14:13] really know what you guys are doing so [1:14:15] we kind of you know at times I find [1:14:17] myself whoa stand back for a minute you [1:14:19] know what find out the facts but me as [1:14:21] the chair want to say I want to thank [1:14:23] each and every one of you and I want to [1:14:25] thank Nathan for keeping me in line [1:14:27] keeping me out of jail. And and I also [1:14:30] want to thank you guys out there for [1:14:33] your guys' support and coming Doyle and [1:14:35] you guys for having our backs, too. [1:14:37] Because at the end of the day, and this [1:14:39] is what I'm trying to stress to the city [1:14:41] council is when whoever whatever service [1:14:44] district we lose, I mean, use if we [1:14:47] fail, they fail. If they fail, we fail [1:14:49] because we're a team. And if you plan on [1:14:51] winning a battle as individuals, then [1:14:53] you better, as Steve knows, go wrestle. [1:14:56] But like I said, we when we're all [1:14:58] together. So if one of us fell, we all [1:15:01] fell together cuz far as I'm concerned, [1:15:03] we're a team and and I just wished I [1:15:06] could take this page that I got here and [1:15:08] transfer it down onto Main Street with [1:15:10] the council that I have. But you know [1:15:11] what? We're all going to be fine. It's [1:15:13] just trying to get to know each other [1:15:15] and trying to, you know, find and [1:15:18] Nathan's our new city attorney, so he's [1:15:20] thinking to me, Mick, what in the hell [1:15:22] was I thinking? But it'll it'll it'll [1:15:25] get better. [1:15:26] >> That's true. We [1:15:27] >> I worry when you I worry when you talk [1:15:29] about starter homes because the quality [1:15:31] of starter homes back in the 70s were [1:15:33] crap and they didn't last. [1:15:36] >> Well, and that's the that's not my [1:15:38] priority. That's [1:15:39] >> No, no, no. I'm just saying though, but [1:15:41] now that we have better uh we have [1:15:45] better inspections and quality [1:15:47] requirements and stuff, so it will be [1:15:49] better, but somehow the contractors are [1:15:52] going to figure out how to make a buck. [1:15:53] >> So, well, but that's that's the other [1:15:55] thrust that we see each year is are [1:15:57] bills to allow the builders to use their [1:15:59] own building inspections about their [1:16:01] own. [1:16:01] >> Yeah, that's that that's [1:16:03] >> is that bill going to pass, do you [1:16:04] think? We have seen a bill of that ilk [1:16:07] every single session for the last three [1:16:09] or four years. I I don't know if it's [1:16:11] going to pass. Typically, in my [1:16:13] experience, the land use bills that come [1:16:15] out early in the session [1:16:17] >> are not the ones that typically pass. [1:16:20] They usually get folded into something [1:16:22] there. What typically happens is there's [1:16:23] a big land use bill every year and it [1:16:26] comes out the last two weeks and the [1:16:29] league will be letting us know, but they [1:16:31] usually kind of hold that back until the [1:16:33] very end. And that's where some of [1:16:35] you'll see some concepts from some of [1:16:36] these bills that you'll see in the [1:16:37] beginning that'll make it at the end. [1:16:39] But I don't know if [1:16:41] >> so how that's going to impact us, I can [1:16:43] only speak from experience is uh they [1:16:45] build a house and they run the sewer out [1:16:47] and they don't compact it good and then [1:16:50] what happens? Five or 10 years the sewer [1:16:52] settles and gets a hump in it and then [1:16:54] they're calling saying my sewer is [1:16:56] plugged. So, I think we just need a [1:16:59] better snake that goes all the way up [1:17:01] and inspects the cl the homeowner. [1:17:04] That's where that's the biggest problem [1:17:06] we can have. Either a cross connection [1:17:08] or a settled sewer line going to the [1:17:11] street. So, [1:17:14] >> I know again I want to thank you guys [1:17:15] for everything and making us who we are. [1:17:18] >> I do too. I [1:17:19] >> Yeah, it makes it look easy. [1:17:20] >> I appreciate all of you. [1:17:22] >> Yeah. Thanks. Thank you. [1:17:24] >> So, now ask us what are you guys really [1:17:25] wanting? [1:17:30] Okay. So, do someone want we need to we [1:17:32] need to have a close session. Does [1:17:33] someone want to [1:17:35] >> motion? [1:17:37] >> Yeah, I can motion. Mr. Mr. Chairman, [1:17:39] I'd like to motion to take a brief [1:17:40] recess and immediately following meeting [1:17:43] and close meeting to discuss purchase, [1:17:45] exchange, lease, sell real property, [1:17:47] including form of water right, water [1:17:49] shares pending a reasonable imminent [1:17:52] litigation and collective bargaining [1:17:54] issues pursuant to Utah code uh 524204 [1:17:58] through 205. [1:18:00] >> I'll second that. [1:18:01] >> It's been motion second. All in favor? [1:18:02] I. [1:18:03] >> It's 117 [1:18:05] 18 [1:18:07] >> time is what? Okay. [1:18:09] >> Okay. [1:18:09] >> What time is it? [1:18:10] >> It is uh 12 [1:18:12] >> 125. [1:18:13] >> 12:55. [1:18:15] >> I'll make a motion to close the closed [1:18:17] meeting and reopen the public board [1:18:20] meeting. [1:18:21] >> And I second it. All in favor? [1:18:23] >> I Okay, [1:18:26] >> this here. [1:18:27] >> Do we have anything else? [1:18:30] >> Do we need to consider any action notice [1:18:33] agenda? [1:18:33] >> No. [1:18:34] >> Okay. So, you want to make a motion? And [1:18:37] I'll make a motion to adjurnn. [1:18:39] >> I second it. Motion seconded. All in [1:18:42] favor?