[0:02] Hey, good morning everybody. I want to
[0:03] welcome you to the Magna Water Board
[0:06] meeting at 888
[0:08] 8885 West 3500 South at our general
[0:12] office building. I'd like to call this
[0:13] meeting to order. Will you guys all
[0:15] please stand with for the pledge of
[0:17] allegiance?
[0:21] » I pledge algiance to the flag of the
[0:24] United States of America and to the
[0:27] republic for which it stands. One nation
[0:30] under God, indivisible, with liberty and
[0:34] justice for all.
[0:36] >> Thank you. I would like to uh welcome
[0:39] our public and guests. And today sitting
[0:41] at our dis table is our engineer Trevor
[0:44] Andre. Our sewer manager is our
[0:48] wastewater, that's better, his Dallas
[0:50] headline. Um Steve Clark is over our water and Andrew Sumpion is our
[0:58] HR. Jeff White, myself, Danny Stewart,
[1:01] chair and trustees. Leo Fitzgerald is
[1:06] our controller. Nathan Bracken is our
[1:09] legal counsel and today will be helping
[1:13] me is Clint Dilly, our general manager.
[1:16] So we're going to move on to public
[1:18] comment. Um, does anybody here have an issue with our agenda today? A
[1:24] conflict.
[1:26] Okay, I don't see anything. So, our
[1:28] first person to comment to the board is
[1:32] Tommy Martinez. So, Tommy, if you want
[1:34] to
[1:36] >> come up and
[1:57] Yeah, we just want to know what's going
[1:58] on with her. That bru
[2:08] uh they take pictures and everything and
[2:10] we told them it was blocked up the
[2:12] street by the the tongs and
[2:17] well here's the the thing on the
[2:19] plumber. He said it was
[2:24] >> Thank you.
[2:24] >> It was in that drain pipe and they came
[2:28] down there and put that that suction
[2:31] thingy in that and it rushed all the way
[2:34] down to my place and mine was the only
[2:38] house with a basement there. It all
[2:40] rushed in the house. So, I got I got a
[2:43] question for you. So, the day I spoke to
[2:44] you on the phone, um did you say that
[2:47] now correct me if I'm right or wrong,
[2:50] did you say that um the road the road to
[2:52] Rooer I'm going to use that went up the
[2:54] road they got in our main line?
[2:56] >> No.
[2:57] >> Okay. Okay. Okay. But so they didn't
[2:59] shoot nothing down there cuz I was going
[3:00] to say if they did that that's really
[3:02] against the law because
[3:04] >> we did we just went up there and checked
[3:06] it. He pulled the that big cover off and
[3:10] it was stopped right there. And when
[3:13] they came down with that that shoot,
[3:16] then it come running rushing down and
[3:18] then it went right into my basement.
[3:22] Okay. So, um, Dallas, you brought me
[3:26] some pictures. I I got to see all the
[3:27] pictures. They did the report and the
[3:30] report showed all these rags. Um,
[3:33] >> rags.
[3:34] rags like they look like mechanic
[3:37] rags or whatever they were.
[3:39] >> No, it's it's more like um paper towels,
[3:42] toilet paper, flushable wipes
[3:45] and then that mixes with just your
[3:47] typical sewer grit and organics and it
[3:50] just turns into a a black paste.
[3:52] >> Okay. So, do we have So, when we talked,
[3:56] you never did really you told me kind of
[3:58] a number. Do you know do you know what a
[4:00] number is to make you whole? was
[4:04] >> what was this going on just to to take
[4:07] that stuff off the toilet?
[4:10] >> But I mean,
[4:11] >> but what I'm trying to say is they cut
[4:13] your walls, right? They cut your walls
[4:14] because you had you had sewage and
[4:16] everything. Did they give you Have you
[4:18] had anybody give you a bid on Cuz when
[4:21] you talked to me, you told me it'd be
[4:22] about $20,000.
[4:25] >> This one is
[4:29] gel.
[4:31] A what?
[4:32] >> He gave it to the glass filter. Is that
[4:34] >> And then your uh the water company came
[4:37] down and give us a bid over the phone
[4:42] just to put it back together. It was
[4:44] like 15.
[4:47] >> Okay. Now, Mr. Chairman, I've got I've
[4:49] got those numbers handy if you want me
[4:50] to.
[4:51] >> Will you please?
[4:52] >> Sure. So, the mitigation and the cleanup
[4:55] was $18,245.75.
[5:00] And then the restoration and the repair
[5:02] to put it all back together was an
[5:04] additional $16,28043.
[5:09] » Okay.
[5:09] >> So, is that combined?
[5:11] >> It would be total. So, add those
[5:14] together.
[5:14] >> Okay.
[5:15] >> Holy cow.
[5:19] » You're roughly 35.
[5:21] >> I did. Yeah, I was the one $35,000.
[5:24] >> I was the one that was there that that
[5:25] day.
[5:27] >> Mhm.
[5:28] >> You just had come home from work.
[5:29] >> So $35,000, right?
[5:31] >> Roughly.
[5:31] $35,000.
[5:35] >> So I think the important thing some
[5:38] things to consider for the board, we
[5:40] certainly sympathize with your
[5:42] situation. Um we know that uh that's
[5:46] upsetting and no one wants to be dealing
[5:49] with that issue. Um, I do believe that
[5:52] we've handled it how we should handle
[5:55] those situations with coming out trying
[5:58] to assess what has caused the backup.
[6:03] And I think that's where we may differ
[6:05] with your assessment
[6:08] um is we don't believe that it was
[6:10] caused by something in the main
[6:13] originally. Right, Dallas?
[6:16] >> Right. Um, we believe it was associated
[6:19] with your lateral
[6:21] >> and that's
[6:22] >> and I pushed all that in the
[6:23] >> Well, that's
[6:25] >> Are you trying to tell me I
[6:27] >> no up the sewer line?
[6:29] >> The issue from what Can you describe
[6:32] what you found so that the board and Mr.
[6:35] Martinez can
[6:35] >> Yeah, I think the important thing to
[6:37] recognize here is
[6:38] >> Yeah,
[6:39] >> we can pull up the pictures too on the
[6:41] screen.
[6:41] >> Yeah, let's pull the pictures up,
[6:42] please.
[6:42] >> So, Mr. Martinez's house sits two or
[6:46] three homes.
[6:47] >> I know exactly where it sits on the
[6:49] corner.
[6:49] >> Yep. And that's brick. That's upstream
[6:51] of the manhole that had the debris in
[6:53] it. So, you know, no issues at the the
[6:56] neighbor, no issues at the other
[6:58] neighbor, no issues across the street.
[7:01] Um the the the debris that we saw
[7:05] collecting them.
[7:06] >> Just to clarify, when you say no issues,
[7:08] how did you verify that there were no
[7:10] issues? uh made contact with each of the
[7:12] customers by knocking on their door.
[7:15] >> So none of the surrounding homes had any
[7:17] of the same issues.
[7:19] >> Does that make sense that
[7:20] >> Well, it does, but the question I have
[7:22] here is so if they don't have any they they didn't have an issue, could
[7:27] that stuff came down and could that came
[7:30] down through and and brought the
[7:32] blockage?
[7:33] The way the way that I perceived it
[7:36] based on our experience and what we were
[7:37] troubleshooting that day was the same
[7:40] type of stuff that the plumber was
[7:42] pulling out of the floor drain and
[7:44] pushing through the lateral is the same
[7:46] stuff that we saw downstream
[7:48] accumulating in the manhole.
[7:51] So it's not that um when Mr. Martinez
[7:55] said they went upstream and saw the
[7:58] blockage and then we vacuumed it out and
[8:00] it all rushed down to his lateral. It
[8:03] was all below his lateral originally. So
[8:06] it was never upstream of it.
[8:11] » So do you have a picture of that?
[8:19] » So this is the this is looking down in
[8:21] the manhole. That's
[8:23] >> not on the street. Correct.
[8:25] >> Correct. Out on the street, two or three
[8:27] doors down from the corner of Tommy's
[8:29] home. And you can see that's just black
[8:33] and brown mush, um, toilet paper, paper
[8:37] towel, flushable wipes, anything that
[8:40] you would put down your sink tub or
[8:42] toilet. And then as that stuff compacts
[8:45] together in the lateral and the
[8:48] mechanical snake that the plumber's
[8:50] using to push it all, once he gets that
[8:52] to go, then it all rushes out to the
[8:54] main and we get kind of that surge flow.
[8:57] Um,
[8:58] >> so it's in a big surge going through.
[9:00] >> Correct.
[9:01] >> Okay.
[9:02] >> And then that's when their home starts
[9:03] draining. Um, we never lost flow in the
[9:06] manhole. There's still a quite a bit of
[9:08] flow going through there even if it
[9:10] doesn't look like it. But if we go to
[9:12] the other pictures, you can see that
[9:15] that's similar
[9:18] makeup and and material type of what
[9:22] they're seeing on the floor and piled up
[9:24] there that they're pulling out of the
[9:25] drains.
[9:33] So, and if you can picture just a a
[9:36] plugged lateral that's 4 in and it's
[9:38] jam-packed with debris. and they're
[9:40] rotting that with a mechanical snake.
[9:43] You know, you can punch a little hole
[9:45] and that's when it'll start draining.
[9:46] And they did that the first day. They
[9:48] got him draining and he had to call him
[9:49] back out the next day. The next day he
[9:52] stopped draining and they worked on it
[9:54] for several more hours and that's when
[9:56] they eventually made contact with the
[9:58] district.
[9:59] >> I thought we had a picture with some
[10:01] stuff on the floor there. It's just it's
[10:04] real hard to tell, but right in front of
[10:06] that snake machine, um you can see the
[10:09] pile of stuff that they're pulling out
[10:10] of the
[10:13] >> floor drain.
[10:17] » I don't know.
[10:21] » Oh, yeah.
[10:22] >> We had to go to my kids's house to sleep
[10:26] because of
[10:27] >> Well, I know. I'm just looking at think
[10:29] what a mess. I I just don't know how
[10:31] that those rags and stuff would go up a
[10:33] 4 inch lateral from the main. I I don't
[10:36] see how that would
[10:37] >> right. They wouldn't.
[10:39] >> So So that's the challenge. Um well, I
[10:42] I'm going to make I'm going to make an
[10:44] recommendation to the board. Okay.
[10:45] >> And you guys can go sideways. I mean, go
[10:47] whatever way you guys want. I recommend
[10:49] pay the $35,000. Let's let's make him
[10:52] whole. Let's put a policy together
[10:54] because we don't Our policies change all
[10:56] the time. We one time we do this, one
[10:58] time we do this. My recommendation, give
[11:01] him the $35,000. Let's make him whole
[11:04] and then let's us the district get a
[11:06] policy in place and let's make sure the
[11:08] policy and give it to legal counsel so
[11:10] he can review it and we can go from
[11:12] there. So that I don't know if I could
[11:15] Can that be a motion, Nathan?
[11:17] >> It certainly could.
[11:19] >> That that is my motion.
[11:20] >> Well, I'm recommending though you've
[11:22] only got we've only you've only seen one
[11:24] bid for fixing What's been
[11:28] >> we went with the cheapest that you know
[11:30] we
[11:31] >> How many bids did you get?
[11:34] >> They told us just to get you guys were b
[11:37] they sent their people over our house.
[11:41] >> Who is it that we used? Alice, who is it
[11:43] we used? It was um
[11:46] >> Is that the quotes from our insurance?
[11:49] >> It is. Yes.
[11:49] >> So that's the underwriter quotes. We
[11:51] don't have any quotes from a contractor
[11:53] or anything. That's just from our
[11:54] instructor. So, you've got to get quotes
[11:56] from a contractor.
[11:57] >> So, my recommendation is go out, have
[12:00] them come out because apparently this is
[12:01] from our insurance company.
[12:03] >> I already fixed it. I mean,
[12:05] >> no, the
[12:05] >> I couldn't I couldn't wait for you. The
[12:08] insurance
[12:08] >> So, do you have do you have receipts of
[12:10] everything that you've done? If you want
[12:12] to give
[12:12] >> about the same
[12:14] >> if you want to if you want to produce
[12:15] every every receipt to the to the city I
[12:18] mean to the to the water district and
[12:22] that I I myself I don't have a problem
[12:24] paying it
[12:26] >> if you have all the receipts but we as
[12:29] taxpayers as you are and I am and us
[12:31] here we can't we can't just write you a
[12:34] check without just you know throwing you
[12:36] a check out say here you go we need we
[12:39] need all the receipts to everything that
[12:40] you've on down there to make you whole.
[12:46] >> And if you've went over if you went over
[12:48] on to make things nicer, we can't fund
[12:51] that either. Just But we can fund I'm
[12:53] willing to fund I'm willing to fund
[12:57] >> the 35.
[12:59] >> Well, if we have the if we have the
[13:01] receipts.
[13:01] >> Okay.
[13:02] >> I can't I I'd get in trouble if I said,
[13:04] "Here, Leon, go give me a check. Prefer
[13:07] $35,000."
[13:08] I can't do that.
[13:10] How come your insurance company never
[13:12] covered any of it?
[13:13] >> Uh they were going to they told us to
[13:15] come up and talk to them today. We told
[13:18] them we're going to meet with you guys.
[13:20] So they were going to come out to you
[13:22] guys
[13:25] if they didn't hear anything good from
[13:27] you guys.
[13:30] >> So do we want their insurance to come
[13:32] after us? I mean what do you what's your
[13:34] recommendation? Typically the two
[13:35] insurance companies will work together
[13:37] and find it out. I
[13:38] >> And then who did you talk to today about
[13:40] the another person
[13:43] >> just the state insurance?
[13:45] >> Okay.
[13:45] >> So So my suggestion I mean the standard
[13:47] process is it sounds like there's a a
[13:49] question as to what's the cause. So
[13:52] typically we've we've already reported
[13:53] this to our insurance company.
[13:55] >> Correct. And they've made they've made a
[13:57] finding that it was no fault of the
[13:59] district.
[14:00] >> So our insurance company's made that
[14:01] finding. your So my suggestion is before
[14:04] we go further, have the two insurance
[14:06] companies talk to each other because
[14:07] that's usually the standard process.
[14:09] >> Yeah. And my understanding is your
[14:11] insurance company found it was no fault
[14:13] as well
[14:14] >> to us.
[14:15] >> Well, to the district
[14:17] >> and so which case they their insurance
[14:19] company should pay for it depending on
[14:21] the terms of their coverage.
[14:22] >> Right.
[14:23] >> And so that's that's maybe the question
[14:24] I have legally. That's our challenge
[14:26] >> is is the way that this should work is
[14:27] if it's the district's fault, the
[14:29] district's insurance should cover it or
[14:31] you know we pay for it some other way
[14:32] but if it's the homeowner's fault or if
[14:34] not your fault but if it's not the
[14:36] district's that it should be covered
[14:37] under your insurance policy,
[14:39] >> right?
[14:40] >> Insurance should help him.
[14:41] >> Yeah. So that's and so and the
[14:43] difference the difference I just for the
[14:46] board the reason my understanding the
[14:49] reason that the board has participated
[14:51] in the past is because when it's not
[14:56] when it's found no fault but it is in
[14:59] the main and there's no way to determine
[15:03] it was a homeowner right
[15:05] >> it was something that we didn't know
[15:07] about it wasn't due to improper
[15:09] maintenance it wasn't doesn't do the
[15:12] district's done everything in the past
[15:14] when that's happened and it's affected
[15:15] multiple homeowners.
[15:17] >> There have been instances when the board
[15:19] has held them,
[15:20] >> right? But I'm going to I'm going to
[15:22] step out of the lane right now.
[15:24] Insurance is the biggest fraudulent
[15:25] thing out there. They turn around and
[15:27] you pay insurance and pay insurance and
[15:29] they're going to pick and choose what
[15:30] they're going to pay. I I just seen this
[15:32] happen to a friend of mine here about
[15:34] two weeks ago on an incident and he's
[15:36] been with his insurance company for 40
[15:38] plus years and they denied him and and
[15:41] so my recommendation is have the two
[15:43] insurance ours and his they're his
[15:45] insurance work together let's come up
[15:47] and like you said if you can produce all
[15:49] the receipts of all the stuff that
[15:51] you've done then I don't have a problem
[15:54] moving forward but again I'm only I'm
[15:56] the chair but these guys are
[15:59] >> so I agree with that
[16:00] >> Mick can I maybe motion then
[16:03] >> I I because what I'm hearing you're
[16:04] saying and this is my suggestion too is
[16:06] I agree with you completely. I used to
[16:08] sue insurance companies, but that said,
[16:10] we haven't it doesn't sound like this
[16:11] process is completed,
[16:12] >> right?
[16:12] >> So before because there's a chance
[16:15] they're if they both are on the same
[16:17] page, then it's a chance that their
[16:19] insurance company would say, "Yeah,
[16:20] we'll pay for it, right?"
[16:21] >> In which case, there's no need for us to
[16:23] go through it. But if if it ends up
[16:25] being denied and they're left out in the
[16:26] cold, then that's when we could have
[16:28] maybe a further discussion. Okay.
[16:29] >> It just sounds like maybe we're a little
[16:30] premature at this point.
[16:32] >> Okay. I had thought when I heard about
[16:34] this that the insurance that had already
[16:36] been denied, but you haven't been denied
[16:37] yet. My understanding is
[16:39] >> agree with a lot of stuff and I got to I
[16:41] can't live like that.
[16:42] >> No, absolutely not.
[16:44] >> I had to I can't put my family in
[16:47] something like that. No,
[16:48] >> I won't do it
[16:49] >> for for sure. But
[16:50] >> I fixed it myself.
[16:51] >> So, you fixed it yourself, but your
[16:52] insurance company hasn't denied the
[16:54] claim?
[16:54] >> No.
[16:55] >> Okay. So, that hasn't happened yet.
[16:57] So
[16:58] >> they they did too deny it because I got the they did they did deny it
[17:02] because I got I got the letter. It's
[17:04] been denied.
[17:04] >> Okay. But so they denied it, but has
[17:07] there have they talked with our
[17:08] insurance company yet?
[17:10] >> Yeah.
[17:11] >> Okay. They need to do that.
[17:13] >> Yeah. So I I mean I typically I'm not
[17:16] >> Can you give Can you give them the name
[17:17] of our insurance company so when they
[17:18] leave here today they have the numbers
[17:20] that your insurance can come so we're
[17:22] not going back and forth and all that?
[17:25] >> Dr.
[17:26] Yep.
[17:28] >> But like I said, if you two can work it
[17:30] out and then whatever we have to do on
[17:32] our end, I'm willing to do this. But my
[17:34] deal is we need to have a policy in
[17:36] place that actually stricts and stands
[17:39] for where we're at. Cuz as I read our
[17:42] policy, it's not really I mean it's kind
[17:44] of here here.
[17:46] >> Yeah.
[17:46] >> And we need to have we need to look at
[17:48] our policy and look have legal counsel
[17:50] re review it and then take it from there
[17:53] if you guys are okay with that.
[17:54] >> Yeah. I think that's a good approach.
[17:57] Um, it's setting aside what that policy
[18:00] does is it puts money that we would set
[18:04] aside in the account rather than in the
[18:06] reserve funds. it goes to a separate
[18:10] account that's just set aside for
[18:12] situations
[18:14] um where the district feels like, hey,
[18:17] it wasn't our fault, but we'll
[18:20] participate because maybe there's some
[18:22] >> Well, and I keep going back I keep going
[18:24] back to the 7200 deal when we had that
[18:26] backup that flooded all them homes and
[18:29] it cost the district a lot of money. And
[18:32] I I feel like on our end, we could have
[18:35] probably did things a little bit
[18:36] different, but you know what? We need to
[18:38] get a policy in place that's actually
[18:40] going to be broad. So when something
[18:42] like this comes, it's either yes or no,
[18:44] and there's no gray in between.
[18:46] >> So just for my benefit, why did your
[18:48] insurance carrier deny your claim?
[18:51] >> Because these guys said they're going to
[18:53] pay for everything and they said the
[18:56] plumber said was was the backup backup
[19:00] there. So, so your plumber said that it
[19:03] said it was the district's fault, but
[19:06] Clint, I thought you said that their
[19:07] carrier determined that it
[19:08] >> Yeah, they determined that it was no
[19:10] fault.
[19:10] >> I did not.
[19:12] >> Sure.
[19:14] >> The letter The letter that I saw that
[19:17] was mailed to
[19:21] » Mick
[19:22] was from our insurance, wasn't it?
[19:24] >> Yeah. Yeah. There's
[19:26] >> Have they really been denied?
[19:27] >> Yeah. What? No, they have they don't we
[19:30] don't use Kleinfeld. What's it's
[19:32] Kleinfelter that you've been working
[19:33] for, right?
[19:34] >> Your insurance company.
[19:35] >> Glad filter.
[19:37] >> Cloud filter. That's your insurance,
[19:39] right?
[19:40] >> Yeah.
[19:44] » Is that what the
[19:45] >> Clint
[19:48] filters through? Oh, okay.
[19:54] » Okay. So, has your
[19:58] Okay. That's through Oh, this is this is
[20:00] your insurance through our
[20:02] >> Olympus. Yes.
[20:03] >> So, so this is from
[20:04] >> This is from us from us. Lad Filter
[20:06] represents us through Olympus.
[20:08] >> That's right.
[20:08] >> Yes. So, so you're is Is this what
[20:10] you're referring to as your insurance?
[20:12] Okay. So, this is our insurance company.
[20:13] >> That's right.
[20:14] >> Have you received anything from your
[20:15] insurance company?
[20:29] Okay. Yeah, they're saying that they
[20:31] initially found it was on the city side,
[20:34] but it was not from our determination.
[20:37] >> So, there's a conflict between the two.
[20:39] Okay. So, so when that happens,
[20:41] typically the insurance companies need
[20:42] at that point to confer with each other,
[20:44] >> right?
[20:45] >> And then
[20:47] >> Oh, that'll be good.
[20:49] >> That's what I said. What are we paying
[20:50] the insurance for? They ain't covering
[20:53] anything.
[20:54] >> Well, that's you know, just like
[20:56] California and those houses were they're
[20:59] going out of business. I mean, that's
[21:01] wrong.
[21:03] >> Yeah, it is.
[21:04] >> Trust me. I think about that every day.
[21:05] I think if I have
[21:06] >> if I have something happen to my house,
[21:08] are they going to cover it?
[21:10] >> It's like they pick and choose who they
[21:11] want to cover.
[21:13] >> Yeah. I would say we do both. I say we
[21:15] instruct these people to call. Can we
[21:16] make a copy of this? Because what what I
[21:19] would suggest is that we have we
[21:21] instruct our guys to contact their guys
[21:24] and vice versa
[21:25] >> because I'm not I I think the issue is
[21:29] to our knowledge did these guys do an
[21:31] independent investigation
[21:33] >> or do they just base it off what your
[21:34] plumber said?
[21:36] >> You guys did they're the only ones.
[21:38] >> Yeah, you guys did an independent
[21:39] investigation. But has your insurance
[21:41] carrier seen the results of their
[21:42] investigation?
[21:43] >> Our insurance come in?
[21:44] >> No.
[21:45] >> So they're just going off of what your
[21:47] plumber said? Yeah.
[21:48] >> Okay. So, that I think is the problem is
[21:50] your plumber didn't have the ability to
[21:52] do the investigation that they did and
[21:54] your plumber determined that it was
[21:56] likely on the city main side. And so,
[21:59] these guys probably just went off of
[22:01] that and they are denying you based on
[22:04] in my opinion an incorrect assumption
[22:06] because they're saying, "Well, you're
[22:07] what?" They're denying you because
[22:09] they're saying, "Well, that our policy
[22:11] doesn't cover the city's system and
[22:13] therefore you're uninsured. go after the
[22:15] city or or in this case the district,
[22:17] but I'm and I don't have your policy,
[22:19] but I'm willing to assume that it does
[22:21] cover stuff that's in the lateral. So,
[22:23] if they're instructed that it is in the
[22:25] lateral and our guys can give them the
[22:26] information, hopefully that So, this is
[22:28] typically how this process should work.
[22:30] So, it sounds like there's a next step
[22:32] that hasn't happened yet. So, in my
[22:34] opinion, it's it's make we can totally
[22:37] do what you want to do, but I I say
[22:38] before you spend tax,
[22:39] >> I agree with you. I I want like I said,
[22:40] I want to keep us out of trouble. I want
[22:42] to do the right thing. If we haven't
[22:43] went and made the whole got it all done,
[22:46] we need to put the puzzle fully together
[22:48] and
[22:49] >> but if their insurance company is on the
[22:51] hook for this and they've been paying
[22:52] for that insurance, they're entitled to
[22:54] it. So, let's work together to make
[22:55] their insurance pay for it.
[22:57] >> Yep.
[22:58] >> And then if that's not possible, then we
[23:00] can come back and have this discussion.
[23:02] Does that sound fair?
[23:04] >> Are you guys okay with that?
[23:05] >> Yeah.
[23:08] because I it sounds like your insurance
[23:10] company's operating off of just that initial fact sheet. They haven't
[23:13] talked with ours. They haven't seen the
[23:15] investigations we've done. And hopefully
[23:17] if they do, that will bring in a
[23:19] different section of your homeowner's
[23:20] policy that typically covers this type
[23:22] of thing. Now, I don't know what your
[23:23] policy says, but that's what the
[23:26] insurance company should work out.
[23:27] >> Yeah. You guys are willing to come in
[23:29] and take a look, but we did. I mean, we
[23:33] >> Yeah, but that that should really be
[23:35] your insurance company, right? and and
[23:37] it doesn't sound like they have come in
[23:39] and they they just saw that said it's
[23:41] not our fault. Deal with somebody else.
[23:44] >> Um and are trying to wash their hands of
[23:46] it.
[23:50] » Yeah, cuz like you like you say, you
[23:52] just
[23:53] >> Oh, I can imagine. I mean,
[23:56] >> we've dealt with quite a bit of this
[23:58] stuff over when we had an issue and
[24:00] >> I was mad cuz I yelled at him. I said,
[24:02] "I want your ass over here and get this
[24:05] thing cleaned up. This is my house. And
[24:08] I said, I won't bring nobody in here. I
[24:11] didn't even want to go downstairs.
[24:14] >> They came over. I says, "Hey,
[24:16] >> just get just get it done. I don't care.
[24:19] I mean, and they said, "Get the
[24:24] what is it? The disaster thing."
[24:27] >> Was that disaster cleanup is what we
[24:29] used? Yeah,
[24:30] >> we we don't make a specific
[24:32] recommendation, but we do recommend
[24:34] calling somebody like that with a
[24:36] disaster.
[24:36] >> Do we have do we have a list of of
[24:38] people on that list that we could give
[24:40] our people when we have this? So,
[24:42] >> we do.
[24:43] >> Okay. So, we do give that to them.
[24:45] >> We just we do, but we say you can use
[24:47] whoever you want.
[24:48] >> Right. Right. Right. Right. You can't
[24:49] say use me.
[24:50] >> Looks like true restore was used.
[24:53] >> Okay.
[24:54] >> Is that correct?
[24:55] >> True restore did the work. Yeah.
[24:58] >> So, Nathan, really fast, you want where
[25:01] do we where do we proceed from this?
[25:03] >> So, what I'm what I'm recommending is we
[25:05] contact our insurer. We explain the
[25:08] situation in greater detail. We send
[25:10] them a copy of this letter and we say
[25:12] here's the issue is we have done an
[25:14] investigation and determined that it
[25:16] wasn't in the main and it was something
[25:17] in the lateral. American Family
[25:20] Insurance has determined that it it was
[25:22] in our system which we've shown that
[25:24] it's not. And so as a result, American
[25:26] Family Insurance is incorrectly denying
[25:28] the claim on an improper basis. And
[25:31] therefore, please work with them to
[25:33] figure this out and then report back.
[25:35] Then you guys can do the same. Um, and
[25:39] so that way now I'm not going to
[25:42] guarantee that the insurance company's
[25:44] going to agree, right? And that's but by
[25:46] that point, maybe we can have the policy
[25:47] adopted and so, you know, we'll be um
[25:51] dealt with in that way. But like I think
[25:54] so what they're excluding is
[26:10] yeah storm drainer water seam or sewer
[26:13] pipe off the resident premises. So
[26:15] that's what they're denying you on is
[26:16] they're saying it was off the premises.
[26:18] That's where the blockage occurred.
[26:20] That's not what we covered. But if
[26:22] they're showing it's on the premises
[26:24] that this should not apply. Their denial
[26:26] would be inaccurate. So does that make
[26:28] sense?
[26:29] >> So we'll contact our guys and tell them
[26:31] to work on this. Explain it. I do the
[26:33] same.
[26:35] >> No. No.
[26:36] >> Are these ours?
[26:37] >> Oh, did we give them back their copies
[26:39] already? Okay. All right.
[26:42] >> Is that fair?
[26:43] >> Yeah.
[26:43] >> Okay.
[26:47] >> Appreciate you.
[26:48] >> Thank you.
[26:49] Tommy.
[26:52] Okay, let's move on to our employees.
[26:56] Okay, thanks board chair. Uh, first we
[27:00] got just we had three our three newest
[27:03] employees attend Flagger certification
[27:05] course. Gavin Ferguson, D Honey, and
[27:09] Taylor Warner. Um, this is a good step
[27:12] for them as we get new employees. This
[27:14] is one of the first things we like to
[27:15] get them certified in so that they can
[27:19] be a good part of uh traffic control
[27:23] when we're doing some repairs. Um helps
[27:27] keep us safe and so we're glad that they
[27:29] were able to get that done. And then
[27:31] next we have Dylan Delbell. Uh he's here
[27:35] with us today. Uh what we brought him in
[27:39] for is a couple months ago we were
[27:42] looking at possibly making some changes
[27:45] to our health and wellness program to
[27:47] see if we could uh boost the
[27:51] uh
[27:53] employee
[27:56] enrollment in it. Get them to buy in a
[27:59] little bit better. And so at that point
[28:01] >> say when you say buy in, explain to me
[28:03] what you mean by that. that we were
[28:05] going to be doing things that they that
[28:07] they wanted to participate in better. We
[28:09] had the same employees doing it every
[28:11] month, which was probably I'd say around
[28:15] 24 of the 35 were participating all the
[28:19] time.
[28:19] >> So when you Okay, I'm lost. So when you
[28:22] say 30 participating in what
[28:25] >> we do,
[28:26] >> is it something that we as the board
[28:27] don't know about? No, we you've you've
[28:30] approved it in the past.
[28:31] >> But what
[28:32] >> if we do monthly challenges where we
[28:36] encourage them to do things like
[28:38] exercise,
[28:40] uh healthy healthy eating. Um
[28:44] >> well, where do I where do I sign up for
[28:46] that?
[28:47] >> We'll we'll get we'll get you in.
[28:49] >> And so we do mental health months, we do
[28:52] >> I need that, too. So
[28:53] >> we do financial health months. We do a
[28:55] lot of things with it to try and help
[28:57] the employees better their their health
[29:01] and wellness.
[29:02] >> And I love that. That's a great idea. In
[29:03] fact, now, okay, it's all I'm trying to
[29:06] put everything. Okay. Yes. And so
[29:09] when we decided that we were going to
[29:11] change the program a little bit, we went
[29:13] to the employees and we asked them if
[29:16] there was any ideas that they could come
[29:18] up with that would make them want to be
[29:21] more involved as well as help the people
[29:24] that if they're already doing it, help
[29:25] the other people get involved. And to
[29:28] Dylan's credit, he was not only the
[29:30] first, he was the only one that stepped
[29:31] up and he came with a lot of good ideas.
[29:34] >> Great. Um, probably the best the best of
[29:36] it was not only did he come with a
[29:38] solution with some some program ideas,
[29:41] but he also came with the idea of, hey,
[29:43] let's build a a health and wellness
[29:45] committee like we have with some of the
[29:47] other things. We get a person on each
[29:49] crew that will help drive their crews in
[29:52] reminding them to participate in these
[29:54] initiatives. And so, uh, with Dylan's
[29:59] help, we're making that committee. And
[30:01] we're just grateful when, uh, employees
[30:04] take the the role of improving our
[30:08] culture. And so, thank you, Dylan. We
[30:12] got to get
[30:13] >> presenting with a little something from
[30:15] >> He needs to be in the little back of my
[30:18] head. The voice in the voice is in my
[30:20] head. You need to be in there.
[30:22] >> Do you have anything to add, Dallas?
[30:24] >> Dylan.
[30:24] >> Yeah.
[30:25] appreciate that.
[30:28] >> Thank you.
[30:29] >> I would just say Dylan's a huge part of
[30:31] why morale at the treatment plan is so
[30:34] big. Um I think the cool thing about
[30:37] Dylan is he recognizes how hard the
[30:39] board has worked to try to increase
[30:40] morale over the last several years. Um
[30:44] and the board can do so much to increase
[30:46] the morale, but it's up to all of us to
[30:49] maintain that morale. Um, so for Dylan
[30:51] to be able to see the whole picture and
[30:53] see all the moving parts, um, it's just a testament to how hard he
[30:58] works and and how much he likes the
[31:00] district and his role. Um, and we
[31:02] appreciate the mutual respect and it it
[31:05] just says a lot about who you are and
[31:07] where you're going. So, thank you very
[31:08] much.
[31:09] >> Great.
[31:09] >> Thanks, D. And I'm and I'm really
[31:11] impressed because like I said when I
[31:12] come down tour the sewer plant you know
[31:14] just you guys are all big great you know
[31:16] like a big family and you guys work
[31:18] really all work really good together and
[31:20] if there's any issues you guys figure it
[31:21] out and I'm I've always I've always said
[31:24] this when I come down there I'm just
[31:26] amazed how you guys all work together
[31:28] and that's you don't see that much
[31:29] anymore.
[31:30] >> It's good to see a positive person for a
[31:32] change you know.
[31:34] >> Thank you.
[31:35] I've been working on.
[31:43] » Okay. Thank you, Andrew. So, let's move
[31:46] on to our our common consent items.
[31:50] >> Minutes of the regular board meeting
[31:51] held February 12th, 2026. Minutes of the
[31:55] public hearing held February 19th, 2026.
[32:00] Expenses from February uh 2nd to March
[32:03] 1st, 2026. General expenses 1,639,951.85
[32:12] size bank pal payment $83,53083.
[32:18] » I'll second it.
[32:19] >> Motion second. All in favor?
[32:21] >> I I
[32:24] Okay, Clint, let's move on to your
[32:25] general general manage report.
[32:27] >> Thanks, Mr. Chairman. on staffing. Just
[32:31] uh highlight a couple things on the
[32:33] water operations, the construction crew.
[32:36] We had that service maintenance position
[32:38] open. Uh we've went through some
[32:41] selection and uh we've made an offer and
[32:44] he's accepted. So that position will
[32:46] start 23rd
[32:48] >> on the 23rd. October 23 or March 23rd.
[32:51] >> March 12th. Be a long wait.
[32:54] >> Six. Wrong season.
[32:55] >> Yeah.
[32:56] >> Who is it?
[32:57] >> Uh Daniel Klein. Daniel.
[32:59] >> Yep.
[33:00] >> Daniel
[33:02] >> came recommended uh several people in
[33:06] the district. He's from the area.
[33:07] >> From the area. He's been doing cabinetry
[33:09] for a while.
[33:12] >> Well, he's got two weeks. He can get us
[33:13] some cabinets.
[33:15] >> That That must be a tough job. That must
[33:17] be really relentless.
[33:19] >> And And I just wondered, do we have any
[33:21] recourse on people to come and treat our
[33:23] customer service people bad? Oh, on the
[33:27] Well, obviously with customers, we're
[33:32] trying to understand what they're coming
[33:34] in so frustrated and angry about.
[33:39] So, we have systems in place to try to
[33:42] diffuse those interactions.
[33:45] >> Can you share them with me?
[33:47] >> The first one is is uh Oh, hey, I can
[33:50] see you're upset. Let me have you talk
[33:52] to my supervisor. Right. And just that
[33:55] initial,
[33:57] we call it stall and call someone
[34:01] >> that usually brings the temperature down
[34:04] just by going through that act.
[34:06] >> Um because it brings the customer now
[34:09] recognizes oo I've been I'm I'm my
[34:12] emotional level is enough. I can tell
[34:15] this person wants to pass me on to
[34:19] someone else. Right? So that's the first
[34:21] step. That's usually pretty effective,
[34:24] but it's still discouraging. I mean,
[34:27] there's a downside to that in that the
[34:29] customer or the employee feels like they
[34:33] can't address the issue, right? And
[34:36] that's certainly an option for them, but
[34:39] we also don't want to subject them to
[34:41] unnecessary
[34:42] >> taking a toll on our employees though.
[34:44] This is the second employee we've had
[34:45] that's turned it down.
[34:47] >> Yeah,
[34:47] >> it's a tough role. So, what can we do to
[34:49] improve that? Do we need to send letters
[34:52] out to our customers to say
[34:54] >> I don't we could I don't know that that
[34:57] would
[34:59] >> it's going to it's going to reach the
[35:01] people that we don't need to reach in my
[35:03] >> well and and and right now let's just
[35:05] say we're in a really ugly place right
[35:08] now in this in this country and I'm just
[35:10] going to say as me as the mayor of the
[35:12] town I deal with this every day. Nathan
[35:14] knows what I go through. uh he because
[35:16] he's our legal counsel and it's ugly and
[35:19] you know and you try sometimes you just
[35:21] you want you if they're wrong you can't
[35:24] just say agree because then they figure
[35:25] you you're on their side but you say hey
[35:27] I understand I understand but that still
[35:29] ain't good enough people get really mean
[35:31] and nasty I mean and and and like you
[35:34] say I understand your point but I
[35:36] understand I like what Clint does is I
[35:38] wish I had some say oh by the way here
[35:40] let me hand this over to somebody else
[35:41] well I'm the the buck stop this buck
[35:44] stops at me Right. So I just but I like
[35:47] that. I mean you know
[35:49] >> it does seem to be effective in a lot of
[35:51] cases
[35:52] >> but like I said
[35:53] >> but if it reaches if the customer
[35:55] becomes belligerent and name calling and
[35:57] personal attacks we have direct we have
[36:00] directed them to say hey I'd love to
[36:02] help you but I can't help you if you're
[36:04] going to call me names.
[36:06] >> I got to let you go into Cape that's
[36:08] professional. Give us a call back when
[36:09] you are able. So they
[36:12] >> mostly phone or in person?
[36:15] >> Phone.
[36:17] >> A lot of people say a lot of things over
[36:19] the phone that they won't say to you
[36:20] face to face. Right.
[36:21] >> Okay.
[36:22] >> I think we try to do is we have a daily
[36:26] check-in meeting in the morning. We try
[36:28] to talk about those things. Uh we try to
[36:31] have a sense of humor about it if we
[36:33] can. Um we try to talk through
[36:36] strategies. we work on mental health and really trying to and Lyle has done a
[36:43] great job with the team. Um I think it's
[36:47] one of those unfortunate circumstances.
[36:50] There's probably more uh going on. It
[36:54] sounds like there's some interest in
[36:56] going back to school. Um so
[36:59] >> how long has she been with us? Three
[37:00] months?
[37:01] >> No.
[37:01] >> Uh probably six.
[37:03] >> Six months.
[37:04] >> And she started in June. I really like
[37:07] her a lot. She's got a great personality
[37:09] and she was able to deal
[37:10] >> a lot to the office.
[37:12] >> She was a sweetheart.
[37:14] >> Yeah.
[37:14] >> Okay.
[37:15] >> You know, but I understand that with
[37:16] this incident that we had up here on
[37:18] 4100, I got called a a death mayor, you
[37:21] know, like everything falls onto me.
[37:24] >> Awful.
[37:26] >> But we'll continue to look. I think it's
[37:29] always good to look at things that we
[37:31] can do.
[37:32] >> Turn the volume down and say hello.
[37:34] What?
[37:36] The hardest part is they're dealing with
[37:37] people that are having one of the worst
[37:39] days of their of their year.
[37:40] >> No kidding. I I just don't.
[37:42] >> But nobody needs to be cussed and sw and
[37:44] swore at, you know. I mean,
[37:46] >> cuz I've done that and had people hang
[37:48] up and then I even get mad and then they
[37:49] won't answer the phone.
[37:53] >> So,
[37:53] >> no. And if is there classes? I mean, I
[37:56] don't know what kind of classes, but
[37:57] >> yeah, they have taken classes on
[37:59] >> customer service classes
[38:00] >> on how to deal with upset customer.
[38:02] >> I think you're doing a good job. Yeah,
[38:05] >> you just can't predict what kind of
[38:07] stuff that's going to come in on the
[38:08] >> you know and each of us each of us has a
[38:11] different sensitivity to that. Some
[38:13] people it doesn't bother, others it
[38:15] really bothers and that's okay. You
[38:19] know,
[38:19] >> it's like having thick skin, but how
[38:21] thick that how thick can that skin
[38:22] really be, right?
[38:24] >> Happy leather.
[38:26] >> So, that position we did post in house
[38:29] and one of our other employees is going
[38:31] to move over uh to that position.
[38:34] >> Can I ask you really quick just off
[38:35] hand, what is the pay of that job
[38:37] starting out? Do you know what that pay
[38:39] is?
[38:39] >> Uh I can tell you the job.
[38:42] I'm sorry. I I should know all these
[38:45] >> free I was thinking,
[38:46] >> wasn't it?
[38:47] >> I should know what these pay
[38:49] >> pay is, but I just
[38:51] >> starts at 2146
[38:54] and the range ends at 2980.
[38:58] >> And does that go by qualifications to
[39:00] get you more money?
[39:01] >> Yes.
[39:02] >> Okay.
[39:03] >> Yeah. Like I said, if you're going to
[39:04] take all that abuse, you should just go
[39:05] down to McDonald's and make that.
[39:09] » They'll list it to you down there. you
[39:11] get the wrong order. Okay.
[39:13] >> Um I guess maybe we could focus on
[39:17] more ways that the customers feel heard
[39:21] and that we're responsive to them.
[39:24] >> I think you're doing a good job.
[39:25] >> So do I. The bad thing is when the
[39:27] customer is so mad you can't talk over
[39:29] them, right? Because they're just
[39:32] >> um So that position will be filled, but
[39:35] we're having to wait another week before
[39:37] we can go outside.
[39:40] That'll be posted.
[39:41] >> Okay, that sounds great.
[39:43] >> And you thought we the four 10-hour
[39:45] days, right? And all the holidays and
[39:46] vacation, all that. But
[39:48] >> Oh, yeah.
[39:50] >> On the operations, I'll point out a
[39:52] couple things. We have been, as you
[39:55] know, continuing work on draining and
[39:57] cleaning and inspecting the drinking
[39:59] water storage tanks. Unfortunately, we
[40:02] did run into a issue that I'll have uh
[40:06] Steve and Trevor and maybe Don even
[40:09] might provide his input with regards to
[40:11] the painting system in the big tank over
[40:14] here.
[40:14] >> And when was the last time you told me,
[40:17] Steve, when was the last time we painted
[40:18] the inside of that tank?
[40:20] >> Five years.
[40:21] >> Has it been five years?
[40:23] >> Yeah. 21.
[40:24] >> Um what's happen is the top layer is
[40:27] peeling off.
[40:29] I don't know if you
[40:31] >> I pretty well thought we repainted that
[40:33] because the top was all corroded.
[40:36] >> It was repainted.
[40:37] >> Yeah, it 5 years ago it was repainted
[40:40] and
[40:41] >> and it's coming off now.
[40:42] >> Yeah, it's failing. So
[40:43] >> So who did it? We better get a hold of
[40:45] them.
[40:45] >> So that's where we can have Trevor and
[40:48] Don maybe
[40:49] >> what we've investigated, what we found.
[40:52] >> I remember we had we went out extra for
[40:54] that just because it was corroded. We
[40:57] because of that.
[40:58] >> Yep. The metal.
[40:59] >> Yeah. As you can remember, these tanks
[41:01] have periodically been taken down
[41:03] >> and repainted. Sometimes they're touched
[41:05] up. Sometimes a whole new systems put
[41:07] in.
[41:08] >> So, can you
[41:08] >> This was a This was a new system.
[41:11] >> We paid for sand blasting and repainting
[41:14] that roof. I remember positivity.
[41:16] >> We did. And that's this is the new
[41:18] system that's filled.
[41:19] >> And that isn't the tank that what got in
[41:21] there, right?
[41:23] >> So, what happened is is that
[41:27] We sanded it down and then we put a
[41:30] three to
[41:36] » tan color and finish with a
[41:40] shown evidence here is we've got problem
[41:44] second and third coat.
[41:46] >> So we don't have any rusting that's
[41:48] occurring between the codes. It's just
[41:51] >> it's laminating.
[41:52] >> What we're trying to find out how
[41:56] We can determine the magnitude of it.
[41:58] But it does mean we're need to go in
[42:02] and sand
[42:05] profile so we can put another coat on.
[42:10] >> I've never I've never seen that ever in
[42:12] my career. We don't know yet what the
[42:16] reason is. We're trying to scan the logs
[42:18] to see if we have a temperature problem.
[42:22] Did we have something that froze?
[42:29] But it doesn't look like it's the entire
[42:32] tank. Looks like it's on the north side,
[42:36] but clearly our
[42:40] emergency repair.
[42:43] We don't need it down there because all
[42:45] primer and the first coat on it is fine.
[42:48] It's just our second coat.
[42:52] peel off big sheets. It's just bizarre.
[42:56] >> When was these When was these tanks
[42:58] built?
[43:01] >> I think they're in the 60s.
[43:03] >> Yeah. But the whole question is he could
[43:05] have had moisture on that between those
[43:08] coats and he wasn't paying attention.
[43:11] >> Yeah. They're also analyzing the paint
[43:15] chips to see if the mix was correct,
[43:18] which could potentially
[43:19] >> mixes it and he probably didn't mix it
[43:21] right
[43:21] >> and that's so we're Yeah. part of the
[43:24] investigation
[43:24] >> for it.
[43:25] >> Yeah.
[43:25] >> Well, the company that did it in 21 is
[43:29] out of business.
[43:31] Um, Tenemic has been very helpful.
[43:34] They're doing their analysis. Um,
[43:37] they've made they'll make some
[43:38] recommendations. Um, they have some
[43:41] painters that we're trying to schedule
[43:43] to have come look a little more.
[43:45] >> That all we use is tiny meat because
[43:46] there's other better ones out there.
[43:48] >> Well, they were the ones that provided
[43:49] the product for this volunteer.
[43:56] » That's pretty neat.
[44:00] » Well, I don't know if I agree that now
[44:02] because Sher Williams has sure tried to
[44:04] come up to speak.
[44:05] >> I do agree with that. I do agree with
[44:08] big strides.
[44:10] So I think the concern is timing. These
[44:14] tanks are critical to have online during
[44:17] June, July,
[44:19] >> middle of summer.
[44:20] >> So we're going to have if we're going to
[44:22] do it now, we're going to have to move
[44:23] rather quickly. Uh if or we make the
[44:27] decision to clean it up and then put it
[44:31] back into service and do a repair later.
[44:34] >> I don't think we want to do that.
[44:35] >> I don't think so either. I think we just
[44:37] need to do the emergency deal and get it
[44:39] done because why go back through it?
[44:41] Yes,
[44:41] >> they just got to block it and don't let
[44:43] any animals in the damn thing in
[44:44] between.
[44:45] >> Yeah, it's closed off.
[44:47] >> When Matt called me, that was all he
[44:49] said is, "Hey, I need you to come up to
[44:51] the tanks. I got something to show you."
[44:52] >> Oh, no.
[44:55] >> Yeah, if you've got it down, there's no
[44:56] reason, like Nick said, to not take care
[45:00] of it right then. We don't want flakes
[45:01] going out in the water and stuff. That
[45:03] would be bad.
[45:05] >> No. Um, so I think we'll move forward
[45:08] then. We appreciate Dons. He's been
[45:12] knowledgeable about these tanks for
[45:14] almost as long as they've been there.
[45:15] >> Don, do you have any idea? Don, do you
[45:18] have any idea how long
[45:22] >> Don, do you have any idea how old them
[45:23] tanks are when they were put in? Cuz I I
[45:25] keep thinking they were there when I
[45:27] grew up.
[45:30] >> Oh,
[45:30] >> okay. Then they were there when I was
[45:32] there. Okay. Growing up.
[45:35] comment that I want to make is you go into these tanks
[45:40] at least particularly these older ones
[45:42] and we've got a lot of evidence for
[45:45] corrosion but I can tell you once the
[45:48] district
[45:49] realizing
[45:52] they
[45:55] look at you see all this corrosion
[45:57] district
[46:00] since they repainted them and used the
[46:02] system we use You know the team 25 years
[46:06] out of it since we painted it the first
[46:09] time. We really have got good service on
[46:12] I got compliment history. They have
[46:14] never hesitated once they recognize the
[46:17] problem those tanks of them and we're
[46:21] going to get a lot of them and I have
[46:23] never in my career seen this type of
[46:28] two. I've seen it between the seen other
[46:32] systems but this particular epoxy. So,
[46:35] this this is a first for me.
[46:37] >> And Don, I I tell you, I've been around
[46:39] them a long time. A lot of that coating.
[46:42] We need to look harder at the people
[46:43] that are doing the work. I I have a
[46:46] feeling they This isn't the first time
[46:48] they've had a problem. I guarantee you
[46:50] >> that way.
[46:50] >> Well, it's frustrating because all the
[46:51] other tanks they did are in good shape.
[46:54] >> Our exteriors are good. The They did the
[46:56] inside of the other the smaller one
[46:58] here, and it's great. It And like Don
[47:01] said, it it's not the whole tank. It's a portion of it. So, there was
[47:05] something that happened.
[47:06] >> Well, it's it's not the company. It's
[47:08] the guys actually not paying attention.
[47:11] So,
[47:11] >> they come and go.
[47:12] >> Workers.
[47:13] >> Yep.
[47:13] >> Yeah.
[47:14] >> Different crews, not
[47:15] >> Yeah.
[47:18] >> I want to take a second. I want to thank
[47:19] Don though for being You've been here my
[47:21] whole time and I want to thank you for
[47:24] everything that you do.
[47:25] >> Absolutely.
[47:27] I've known Don for a few years,
[47:30] >> not Don, but I remember those takes when
[47:33] I was in high school or there.
[47:35] >> Yeah.
[47:35] >> I mean, in the 60s.
[47:37] >> Yeah. Don's been uh involved in a lot of
[47:39] the critical decisions that I think have
[47:42] been great for the district like the
[47:43] secondary water, the reuse, the master
[47:47] planning and rates. Uh been instrumental
[47:50] in helping guide us and done a great
[47:53] job. Hey, I want to thank him for doing
[47:55] such a good job bringing you up through
[47:57] the ranks. Look where we're at now.
[47:59] >> And Trevor.
[48:03] » Yep. We owe him that, too.
[48:08] » Sorry. Sorry.
[48:11] >> He's been a good man, Don.
[48:16] » All right. But uh only other thing I'll
[48:19] highlight here is we did get the lease
[48:20] agreement signed by the Great Salt Lake
[48:23] Commissioner.
[48:24] >> Hi.
[48:25] >> So our canal shares 75% of those we're
[48:29] going to lease to the
[48:31] >> Great Salt Lake. And so
[48:35] » you want permission from the board.
[48:45] Um,
[48:45] >> do you want to come back and be
[48:48] approved?
[48:48] >> Well, I think there's an item on the
[48:51] agenda that could give us a little more
[48:53] flexibility with that depending on the
[48:55] estimated cost.
[48:58] >> We're the board last time asked to raise
[49:01] the limit for the general manager to be
[49:04] authorized up to 100,000. Yeah.
[49:06] >> So, if you think that that those repairs
[49:09] would be below a h 100,000, which I
[49:11] would be hopeful.
[49:14] >> Um I think we could handle it that way
[49:16] if that goes through.
[49:17] >> Yeah, that sounds great.
[49:18] >> So, maybe we address it at the end of
[49:20] the meeting
[49:22] >> uh during the other if that's okay with
[49:24] the board.
[49:24] >> Yeah, let's do that.
[49:25] >> Um and then if you you can decide what
[49:29] you want to do.
[49:29] >> Sure. But that stays within
[49:31] >> But I think that's a good point
[49:33] >> because it stays within the scope of the
[49:34] repair. So, let's let's go that way.
[49:40] » Um, the other things I'll highlight,
[49:43] wastewater operations. Just excited that
[49:46] we're back to
[49:48] putting that reuse water to use. Steve
[49:50] and Dallas have been coordinating. I
[49:54] think your plan is to start at the end
[49:55] of March, 1st of April, right?
[49:57] >> Yeah, that's what we're shooting for.
[49:59] >> So, when will there be water in
[50:00] secondary?
[50:01] >> Probably April 1st at the latest. Yeah,
[50:04] we're shooting for April 15th actually
[50:06] be fully operational, but there'll be
[50:08] water before that so people will start
[50:10] seeing it might have questions, but we
[50:12] want to do some aggressive flushing.
[50:14] >> Okay, I'll tell them.
[50:16] >> I'll tell them maybe. But not going to
[50:18] guarantee anything.
[50:18] >> Tell them to wait till April 15th to use
[50:22] that.
[50:22] >> We'll be flushing ahead of that.
[50:25] >> Okay.
[50:25] >> Uhoh.
[50:28] >> Should be better than last year.
[50:29] >> Yeah, it'll be a lot better.
[50:30] >> Rugging out all them fish. No, there's
[50:32] no fish. At least At least not in the
[50:35] reservoir, huh?
[50:36] >> Yeah.
[50:36] >> No.
[50:38] >> Um Dallas has been working on bids for
[50:42] contracting out the sledge hauling um
[50:44] when ET Technologies closes and moves. I
[50:49] think he's got some promising numbers so
[50:52] far. He'll continue to evaluate that,
[50:54] but it looks like a potentially good
[50:58] option to do the contracted hauling.
[51:00] When does it have to start? When will
[51:02] they actually be because I heard they're
[51:04] already doing stuff out at the site?
[51:06] >> Yeah, they said they're planning a soft
[51:08] startup date of January 1, 27.
[51:11] >> 27. Okay.
[51:16] And then on the office, uh, LIL
[51:19] completed a drinking water consumer fee
[51:22] incentive verification survey. That's
[51:25] will be the basis for that new drinking
[51:27] water fee calculation. that we have to
[51:30] pass along to the customer.
[51:32] >> Yeah.
[51:33] >> Um but again, if you remember, they've
[51:36] cut down how much that will be and they
[51:38] pushed it back. So
[51:40] >> So it will now be 2028.
[51:42] >> 2028 fiscal year.
[51:44] >> Well, I think that's when the fee will
[51:45] be due by us. So if that's
[51:49] start collecting,
[51:50] >> when will we know what number?
[51:52] >> Are they going to wait the last minute?
[51:54] >> I hope not.
[51:55] >> It will be based on usage, right?
[51:57] >> Yeah. The survey didn't really ask a
[52:00] whole lot of questions.
[52:01] >> It's based on us. Will it go in tiers or
[52:03] will
[52:05] >> it's just a
[52:05] >> right now it's not planned to.
[52:07] >> Yeah. It's just how much
[52:09] >> flat fee on usage.
[52:11] >> It will be up to us to decide how we
[52:13] pass that along.
[52:14] >> Okay. But I'm just wondering they will
[52:16] give you a number that they have to have
[52:19] >> and then you guys have to fit it in to
[52:21] see how it fits in the system,
[52:22] >> right?
[52:23] >> When will we know that? Will we know
[52:25] before 2028? Hopefully.
[52:28] >> Yes.
[52:28] >> Okay.
[52:29] >> We should know. They'll use I think they
[52:31] said they were using 2025's
[52:34] data. So, we actually know I think now
[52:36] we could get an idea.
[52:38] >> Okay.
[52:40] >> For that 2028 calculation.
[52:43] >> All right.
[52:44] And then
[52:46] as far as coord communication, just a
[52:49] heads up, I met with Jordan Valley,
[52:52] their GM and Granger hunters, and that
[52:57] Jordan Valley has that water budget
[52:59] policy uh for
[53:02] annexation,
[53:04] new annexations, they have to meet a
[53:07] certain water budget per acre or they
[53:10] have to bring in their own water.
[53:12] >> Oh, wow.
[53:12] >> Okay. that's currently in place for
[53:15] Jordan Valley.
[53:17] So, they're moving that internal to
[53:20] within their district now as well. And
[53:24] so, they're talking with the districts
[53:27] on how that will be implemented, but it
[53:29] sounds like it would be a similar
[53:32] budget.
[53:34] Um, and they would ask
[53:36] >> the drinking water budget.
[53:37] >> Well, similar budgetary per acre amount.
[53:42] They're just moving that inland now into
[53:44] their existing district. So any
[53:46] development within the district will be
[53:49] when they pass this will be subject to
[53:51] that budget.
[53:52] >> Right.
[53:53] >> So they'll have to bring water if they
[53:56] want service from Jordan Valley.
[53:58] >> Are we involved in that?
[54:00] >> We are since we contract with Jordan
[54:02] Valley.
[54:02] >> Right.
[54:04] >> And so it would affect us if we needed
[54:06] to go to Jordan Valley for more water.
[54:08] We need to go for more.
[54:09] >> But if we don't, we're okay.
[54:11] >> Okay. And right now,
[54:13] >> right now it affects us less and it
[54:16] affects Jordan or Granger Hunter less.
[54:18] So they met with us together because it
[54:21] will affect us the least out of all of
[54:23] the agencies because we supply the most
[54:26] of our water. But I think it's important
[54:27] for the board to be aware that the
[54:30] industry is moving that direction.
[54:32] >> Okay. and we will likely need to be
[54:35] aligning
[54:37] um our budget policy in some time in the
[54:40] future. So, okay.
[54:44] And then we've got the golf course here
[54:47] today. Um there's an agenda item uh for
[54:53] the board to consider
[54:55] their request. It is towards the end of
[54:58] the
[54:59] >> agenda. I want to move out of I want to
[55:01] move out of out of uh
[55:05] out of the direct what do I want to call
[55:07] that? I I want to move I want to go move
[55:09] off the agenda and tend to the golf
[55:11] course stuff right now and then go back.
[55:13] >> I that's all with my reports.
[55:15] >> Is the council okay? I mean the council
[55:17] is the trustees okay with that?
[55:19] >> Okay, let's move over to the golf course
[55:24] and that way they don't have to sit here
[55:25] and listen to everything we have going.
[55:27] Do you guys want to come up?
[55:36] So that is under administrative
[55:39] item two I believe.
[55:41] >> Thank you Leo.
[55:43] >> How are you doing?
[55:48] » First off, this lady here that's in
[55:51] front of us today, her her boy works for
[55:54] us, Gavin Henshaw.
[55:55] >> Oh no.
[55:57] >> So
[56:01] and
[56:01] >> we're very very very fortunate to have
[56:03] Gavin.
[56:03] >> So all of these problems you can blame
[56:05] her.
[56:07] >> So Mr. Chairman, yes,
[56:10] >> I'll introduce them and then Trevor
[56:13] might provide a little context and then
[56:16] we'll if the golf course would like to
[56:19] uh make any comments. But as you know,
[56:23] they have used a combination of our
[56:26] drinking water and then water from
[56:30] Kennott to water the golf course over
[56:33] the years. and they have formally
[56:37] approached Magna Water and the board to
[56:41] consider some
[56:44] combination of transferring over that
[56:48] water
[56:50] uh to Magna Water uh and the reuse
[56:54] system now that we have. And so
[56:58] the cleanest option is the first one
[57:02] which is what they use to water their
[57:05] drinking water greens, right? I mean
[57:08] their greens
[57:10] >> with drinking water. Um we feel like
[57:13] that is a pretty good option and we
[57:16] think we can make that work fairly
[57:18] easily. the other the rest of the golf
[57:21] course that they water with the kick hot
[57:23] water. That's quite a bit of volume,
[57:26] >> right? And it could be potentially some
[57:31] substantial
[57:32] capital costs. Um the golf course was
[57:36] going to look into that to see what they
[57:38] can do with their system and maybe
[57:39] they'll be able to give us an update,
[57:41] but they've requested us to consider
[57:44] those two options.
[57:46] um and any participation
[57:49] that Magna Water District can consider
[57:52] to help offset or delay cost uh to the
[57:58] golf course, whether that's payback,
[58:02] whether that's um donation of piping
[58:06] materials, they have asked requested
[58:08] that. Um and so I'll let Trevor,
[58:12] anything else that you wanted to add to
[58:14] that? Um just
[58:17] the option one connection. We did kind
[58:20] of a a cost estimate of what that would
[58:23] take and kind of looked a little bit
[58:26] more and revised that this week. Um
[58:29] roughly I mean between we'll say 35,000
[58:33] to 50,000 to extend the pipe. Um, they
[58:38] have a 4-in meter that they use for the
[58:41] outdoor watering and then they have a 1
[58:43] in that goes to the clubhouse. That 1 in
[58:46] would need to be uh basically a new
[58:48] connection for that if they were to go
[58:50] this route. Um, and so we've taken all
[58:53] that into account. We kind of have a
[58:54] really good grasp of what's required.
[58:57] Um, but that's kind of the cost range
[58:59] for that.
[59:01] >> Okay. And they don't need to change the
[59:03] 4 inch. They can live with them. I I we
[59:06] have an option to you to put in uh what
[59:09] is our standard 4-in vault. Um but I
[59:13] don't believe that would be required to
[59:16] make the connection to change it from
[59:18] drinking water to secondary.
[59:20] >> How big is the meter now that furnishes
[59:22] it?
[59:23] >> A 4 inch.
[59:24] >> A 4 in.
[59:25] >> And that wouldn't have to be increased
[59:27] on secondary water to
[59:29] >> not for the greens.
[59:30] >> Okay.
[59:31] So is that taken and bringing the line
[59:34] over so it lines up and then like we
[59:36] talked that day at the golf course.
[59:38] >> Correct.
[59:39] So a portion of that work benefits Magna
[59:42] Water and I think something
[59:44] >> I think that's something one of the
[59:46] reason that the board could consider is
[59:48] that the main in the road in front it's
[59:52] in 2600 South
[59:54] >> right
[59:54] >> the bulk of the cost um
[59:57] >> because we're going to eventually do it
[59:58] anyhow right
[59:59] >> it will be need to be done at some point
[1:00:02] um so that's that's something for the
[1:00:04] board to consider um we do usually put
[1:00:08] the onus on development when it is in
[1:00:11] this situation. They usually have to
[1:00:13] front that cost if they want the water.
[1:00:16] But but there are factors where like I
[1:00:18] said, we benefit
[1:00:20] uh some from that. So that's something
[1:00:23] that you can consider. Um the second
[1:00:26] option, we're still getting information.
[1:00:30] I don't know if you've got enough.
[1:00:31] >> We've done a lot of analysis. I don't
[1:00:33] know that right here is the time and I don't have the figures but it they
[1:00:39] it is a lot of water. It could be an
[1:00:41] average of a,000 to 1,800 gallons a
[1:00:45] minute um depending on when they're
[1:00:47] using zones and which zones and how
[1:00:49] many. Um so it is a significant amount
[1:00:53] of water and so the infrastructure that
[1:00:56] Clint mentioned is pretty significant.
[1:00:58] It's an 8 to 10 inch pipe. It's a large
[1:01:01] meter. Um, so I think that one still
[1:01:05] needs to be fleshed out a little bit
[1:01:08] more and the and there's an impact that
[1:01:10] has never been on our system that would
[1:01:14] then be be there
[1:01:15] >> that needs to be evaluated
[1:01:17] >> the impact of so are we incomplete at
[1:01:20] this point to make
[1:01:21] >> the option number two I don't think
[1:01:23] we're at a point where we can make a
[1:01:25] decision that that's
[1:01:26] >> so out of the two when you're looking at
[1:01:27] them both would you recommend one?
[1:01:29] >> I would. Yep. 100%.
[1:01:31] >> I think the number one benefits both the
[1:01:34] golf course and NS long term.
[1:01:37] >> Um would you guys like to add anything?
[1:01:40] >> Yeah, I agree with that too. We want to
[1:01:43] move forward number one.
[1:01:44] >> Okay.
[1:01:44] >> Like I'd love to have that done this
[1:01:46] year.
[1:01:47] >> Okay.
[1:01:48] >> Both of us. Um
[1:01:50] >> aside from that option number two, this
[1:01:53] kind of goes I mean it's kind of off the
[1:01:55] script, but we'd like to approach you
[1:01:58] guys for
[1:01:59] We're reaching our 100 year anniversary
[1:02:01] this year and the coffee club is
[1:02:05] probably the biggest green space in that
[1:02:08] >> right
[1:02:09] >> 70 plus acres of green space open.
[1:02:13] I would like some help
[1:02:16] maybe using the 100 year anniversary as
[1:02:18] a starting point to reach out to other
[1:02:24] entities for grant assistance.
[1:02:28] the copper more sustainable when you're
[1:02:30] talking about the amount of water we use
[1:02:32] on the fairways.
[1:02:34] The I don't know how old that system is.
[1:02:37] It's not efficient and I'd like to start
[1:02:42] >> and you could like do sections at a
[1:02:44] time, right?
[1:02:46] >> Absolutely. Absolutely. And you know if
[1:02:51] using the macar is a great option there
[1:02:54] with you guys to discover a better
[1:02:56] option
[1:02:57] >> something that's more
[1:03:00] help.
[1:03:03] » Well, you know what? I'm going I'm going
[1:03:04] to just make a comment or two. I if the
[1:03:08] number one option is feasible for them
[1:03:11] and ourselves, I move that we we go
[1:03:14] ahead, and go with option one and help these guys get this put in. And
[1:03:23] >> what's the cost for option one? It's
[1:03:25] right here between 20 uh between 35 and
[1:03:29] $50,000.
[1:03:30] >> Okay.
[1:03:31] >> And that will like Clint said that will
[1:03:32] actually benefit us too.
[1:03:34] >> Where will that come from?
[1:03:36] >> It ties
[1:03:37] >> I I'm sorry. Did you make
[1:03:38] >> We're talking about the option one where
[1:03:40] it comes off 2600.
[1:03:42] >> Oh, where did the where did the amount
[1:03:44] come from?
[1:03:44] >> What's the cost and who's going to pay
[1:03:46] for it?
[1:03:47] >> We are Well, there would be options for
[1:03:50] the board to consider. could be um any
[1:03:54] portion of that we could most likely do
[1:03:57] that inhouse.
[1:03:59] >> Um
[1:03:59] >> as far as the extension
[1:04:02] >> foot extension
[1:04:03] >> so that estimate is
[1:04:05] >> it's the 180
[1:04:08] >> that estimate is include is assuming a
[1:04:10] contractor came and did that. Right.
[1:04:12] >> Correct.
[1:04:13] >> So there could be some savings in terms
[1:04:15] of labor. So, you're probably looking at
[1:04:17] half on the labor, right?
[1:04:19] >> That could be passed on or could not be
[1:04:21] for the board to consider. The other
[1:04:24] option is they you could do a payback
[1:04:28] agreement where the district would front
[1:04:31] the money um and do the work, get it
[1:04:34] installed, and the copper cup could pay
[1:04:37] it back over time potentially with the
[1:04:39] savings. Um, so there will be savings
[1:04:42] when they use reuse water versus
[1:04:45] drinking water. You could say, "Hey, if
[1:04:47] you would pay what you've been paying
[1:04:50] until that's paid back, that's an option
[1:04:52] for the
[1:04:53] >> They haven't agreed to that yet."
[1:04:54] >> They haven't. Um,
[1:04:55] >> that needs to be done before we can
[1:04:57] approve.
[1:04:57] >> But the question I have on that though
[1:04:59] is if it's going to benefit us, I mean,
[1:05:02] you got to you got to stop and take that
[1:05:03] in consideration. It's not just benefit
[1:05:05] the golf course, it's benefiting us. Am
[1:05:06] I right or am I wrong?
[1:05:08] >> Yes. The portion of the upsize in the
[1:05:10] road benefits us
[1:05:11] >> the 180 ft.
[1:05:12] >> Yeah.
[1:05:12] And is that 35,000 the extension?
[1:05:16] >> No, that's a portion of
[1:05:18] >> very portion of the cost because that
[1:05:20] includes Yes. that extension of that
[1:05:22] line. There's blowoff on the end.
[1:05:24] There's the connection to the meter
[1:05:26] vault. There's the 1 in meter.
[1:05:29] >> So, we didn't have a we didn't actually
[1:05:31] have a motion uh on this. We wanted it
[1:05:36] to beformational for the board to give
[1:05:39] us direction. If you wanted more
[1:05:41] information, if you wanted us to come
[1:05:44] back with more details on one thing or
[1:05:46] the other, um, that was kind of the
[1:05:48] intent here. Um,
[1:05:50] >> so the only thing we'll motion on today
[1:05:52] is to go ahead with option one, but they
[1:05:55] still need to approve whatever you come
[1:05:58] up with and so that we can then
[1:06:00] >> So do we know what do we know when you
[1:06:03] say it benefits us in so what's the
[1:06:07] cost?
[1:06:07] >> That's something we could come back
[1:06:09] with.
[1:06:10] >> Good.
[1:06:12] >> When can you have all this stuff done so
[1:06:14] we can have it back to us? Um, I think
[1:06:16] the intent was you wanted something in
[1:06:18] place before the start of your
[1:06:20] irrigation.
[1:06:21] >> Correct.
[1:06:21] >> When when do you guys plan?
[1:06:23] >> May 1st.
[1:06:24] So, we could have it in the
[1:06:26] April meeting.
[1:06:27] >> Okay.
[1:06:27] >> Um, and we would get close. I think
[1:06:31] Steve, as long as your crews could have
[1:06:33] that done
[1:06:35] >> if that's what it's looking like we're
[1:06:36] going to go to, then
[1:06:37] >> we'll How long will it take to do that,
[1:06:40] Steve?
[1:06:42] Um, I'd probably plan a couple weeks.
[1:06:46] >> Okay. Not over three weeks. That's only
[1:06:49] 180 ft.
[1:06:51] >> So, I think it's doable.
[1:06:53] >> I say a couple weeks because you never
[1:06:55] know what's going to happen. We might be
[1:06:56] pulled off for sure emergency.
[1:06:59] >> Sure.
[1:07:02] But it's like I said, we need all this
[1:07:05] put down and everybody agrees on what
[1:07:07] it's going to cost and who's going to
[1:07:08] accept.
[1:07:09] >> You may get me back
[1:07:10] >> certain things.
[1:07:13] >> Okay, then I got it wrong because I
[1:07:14] thought we were going to put I thought
[1:07:15] we were going to run this ourselves.
[1:07:18] >> Well, that's an option for sure.
[1:07:19] >> I thought that's what we talked about. I
[1:07:21] thought we was going to run it ourselves
[1:07:23] and then they'll be liable for the rest
[1:07:25] of the stuff. But I thought we my
[1:07:27] agreement was is I thought we were going
[1:07:29] to run it over there. We were going to
[1:07:31] we talked about that that we were going
[1:07:32] to do that and now it's all going to
[1:07:34] come with this cost and this cost and
[1:07:36] this cost. So I'm I'm kind of confused
[1:07:37] about it.
[1:07:38] >> Well, I think we talked we could get to
[1:07:40] that point, but I think we talked about
[1:07:42] the first step was they would come back
[1:07:44] and formally
[1:07:46] tell us what they wanted,
[1:07:47] >> right?
[1:07:48] >> And there
[1:07:48] >> they want they want one
[1:07:50] >> and they want both options,
[1:07:52] >> right?
[1:07:55] I mean obviously we wanted to benefit
[1:07:57] both of us and I think both options
[1:07:59] would
[1:07:59] >> okay
[1:08:00] >> we haven't flipped over both options up
[1:08:04] so far you know the questions you've
[1:08:07] been asking I haven't
[1:08:10] >> at all I I've given you guys what we pay
[1:08:15] Utah power to run our currently
[1:08:18] >> I think it benefits
[1:08:20] magma magma water to keep the resour
[1:08:24] coming to Utah power resources meaning
[1:08:29] >> and we're willing to you know we're
[1:08:32] willing to pay that but I don't know how
[1:08:36] >> we don't know
[1:08:38] >> so do you guys have a count on how many
[1:08:40] heads you've got and all that kind of
[1:08:42] stuff
[1:08:43] >> so when can you give that to
[1:08:45] >> we we have that and we we've started
[1:08:47] doing it doing an analysis and that's
[1:08:50] where I mentioned that well I mean when
[1:08:52] they're in their peak season, it could
[1:08:54] be 1,800 gallons a minute that they're
[1:08:56] watering.
[1:08:57] >> So, is that is that what we base it on
[1:08:59] for option two to come up with a number?
[1:09:01] >> Correct. But that that full analysis
[1:09:04] isn't done. The impact on our system,
[1:09:06] what that cost might be, what what they
[1:09:08] would pay monthly, we haven't got to
[1:09:10] that point.
[1:09:11] >> It's just like we find on an airline.
[1:09:13] You walk into a place and you hear air
[1:09:15] leaking all over what they pay for the
[1:09:17] compressor cost. I have a feeling you
[1:09:19] guys got a lot more leaks than you think
[1:09:20] you do under that ground.
[1:09:21] >> I agree with you. And that's and that's
[1:09:24] where I would reach back out
[1:09:28] and help us. We're operators, right?
[1:09:30] We're both operators of this property.
[1:09:33] We don't
[1:09:34] >> right.
[1:09:34] >> I can't for
[1:09:36] >> right
[1:09:38] >> there are many grants that suit our
[1:09:39] needs as far as you know infrastructure
[1:09:43] and water consery. There there grants
[1:09:46] out there that we look at.
[1:09:50] >> Could a cut apply for the grant? cop can
[1:09:53] >> since they're the property owner.
[1:09:55] >> It's they're the property owner you can
[1:09:57] because
[1:09:59] that's
[1:10:00] >> so I got a question on that Nathan. So
[1:10:03] under that deal with them the grant
[1:10:05] there's a bunch of grants I understand
[1:10:06] what it is I thing we dealt up here with
[1:10:09] this project that we're working on right
[1:10:11] now is
[1:10:14] how you know cuz we're providing the
[1:10:16] water right we're going to we were going
[1:10:18] to provide the water and and like Jeff
[1:10:20] said there's a lot of leakage he's
[1:10:21] assuming there's a a bunch of leakage
[1:10:25] how since Kakott owns the land how could
[1:10:29] they get how could how could we put any
[1:10:32] pressure on Kakott
[1:10:33] to have them apply for these grants
[1:10:36] because at the end of the day, Kennot
[1:10:38] owns the land, right?
[1:10:39] >> Yeah. And so there's a couple things to
[1:10:40] keep in mind as and as I understand what
[1:10:44] you're saying is what you're asking is
[1:10:46] can the district or the city also put in
[1:10:49] for grants because the city as the
[1:10:51] district and the city as government
[1:10:52] entities are going to be
[1:10:53] >> they got a grant coming to us from the
[1:10:56] city coming up.
[1:10:57] >> Yeah, but that's that's something the
[1:10:58] city's providing.
[1:10:59] >> Right. Right. So Riotinto as the owner
[1:11:01] could apply for those grant programs
[1:11:03] that Riotinto as a private for-profit
[1:11:05] company is eligible to apply for, but a
[1:11:09] usually there's public entities have
[1:11:12] other programs that are in addition or
[1:11:14] separate to from what Riotinto could
[1:11:16] apply for. So, it's not uncommon, this
[1:11:19] is an odd situation, but for entities
[1:11:22] that provide some public service to a
[1:11:23] community that aren't eligible for a
[1:11:25] grant to partner with the the entity
[1:11:27] that is, which would be the district or
[1:11:29] the city, to then have that entity apply
[1:11:32] for the grant and pass it through to to
[1:11:35] them. I assume you're a nonprofit
[1:11:37] organization, right?
[1:11:38] >> So, there's and that happens relatively
[1:11:42] frequently. And so, yes, you could go
[1:11:44] and work with Riotinto, but I think what
[1:11:46] maybe makes the most sense is if you're
[1:11:48] aware of grant programs that you're
[1:11:50] interested in, give us a list because
[1:11:52] some of those are things that Riointo
[1:11:54] may be able to apply for that we can't.
[1:11:56] But I think more than likely,
[1:11:57] >> most of those are going to be things
[1:11:58] that we could apply for that the city
[1:12:00] could apply for that Riointo can't. And
[1:12:02] so my thought is is let's see what's out
[1:12:04] there and then maybe pass it over.
[1:12:06] >> Yeah. Or you could sit down with Rio
[1:12:08] Tinto and say, "Let's coordinate on
[1:12:09] this.
[1:12:10] >> What do we do? What's best for the Gulf
[1:12:12] District? It looks like Riotinto.
[1:12:13] There's some that you might be able to
[1:12:14] apply through and pass to them and it
[1:12:16] looks like there's some that we can. But
[1:12:18] my guess is, and correct me if I'm
[1:12:20] wrong. Most of what's going to be
[1:12:22] available are things that you can apply
[1:12:23] for that Rio Tinto can. Because a lot of
[1:12:25] times with grant money, they're going to
[1:12:26] be like, okay, a government entity gets
[1:12:28] grant money. One of the richest
[1:12:30] corporations in the world that has mines
[1:12:31] all over the place. Why are we giving
[1:12:33] public money to them?
[1:12:35] And I think one of the things that could
[1:12:38] tie that together, which is why option
[1:12:41] two might be a little more complicated,
[1:12:43] is there may be some partnership we can
[1:12:46] make with Kakott over that pump station
[1:12:49] itself. And so that's something that
[1:12:51] we're pursuing as well. Um I think that
[1:12:54] could be a win-winwin. Um so
[1:12:58] >> because it's between the owner of the
[1:12:59] property and the water company, right,
[1:13:01] that could be really valuable.
[1:13:02] >> Yeah. and then and then that could be an
[1:13:05] asset to the district that we could then
[1:13:07] in turn pass on uh the water and manage
[1:13:11] that potentially.
[1:13:12] >> That's two concerns I have with the golf
[1:13:14] course. Number one, your quality of your
[1:13:16] grass and your water leaks. Those are
[1:13:18] the two biggest things. You really need
[1:13:21] to look at that grass and if you're
[1:13:23] using more water than you should be. I
[1:13:25] think there's a lot of help out there.
[1:13:27] Somebody needs to consider what grass
[1:13:30] you have, what how much water it takes
[1:13:32] and that's on and above besides all the
[1:13:34] water leaks you have under the ground.
[1:13:36] >> So,
[1:13:37] >> well, that's what I'm saying. So, where
[1:13:38] do we move from here? Do we have them
[1:13:41] get a list?
[1:13:41] >> Yeah. What I would recommend, and this
[1:13:43] is not my call, but I would recommend
[1:13:45] sounds like you've done some homework on
[1:13:46] this, right? Provide I guess Clint or
[1:13:50] whoever you guys designate a list of
[1:13:52] what that stuff is so we can take a look
[1:13:53] at it and see what makes sense. Now, I
[1:13:56] will be clear. There are going to be
[1:13:57] requirements. We'll need to have some
[1:13:59] sort of a pass through contract. May
[1:14:01] want to talk with Seth Oson with local
[1:14:03] government's uh section of the state
[1:14:05] auditors because there are some
[1:14:06] reporting requirements. So, for
[1:14:07] instance, anything over $25,000 that you
[1:14:09] receive in public funds, whether it's
[1:14:11] from us, the state or uh typically in
[1:14:13] those different with federal government
[1:14:15] grants too, there's there's reporting
[1:14:17] there going to be mainly reporting
[1:14:19] requirements on your ends, but if it's a
[1:14:21] federal grant, potentially reporting
[1:14:22] requirements on ours. Now that be said,
[1:14:25] that being said, um there may be we may
[1:14:29] need to work with Riotinto on this too
[1:14:31] if with the ownership issue. It's just
[1:14:33] each grant program is going to have its
[1:14:35] own separate requirements and its own
[1:14:36] separate eligibility criteria.
[1:14:39] >> So what do we want to sit down? I mean
[1:14:41] once he recognized what grants do we
[1:14:44] want to sit down I mean bring them
[1:14:45] through us or do we want to kind of sit
[1:14:47] down and have a meeting with us and
[1:14:49] kakott and just
[1:14:50] >> yeah I would I would suggest that we see
[1:14:52] what's out there first because you may
[1:14:53] look at it and there may not be anything
[1:14:55] that Riotinto can apply for.
[1:14:56] >> Okay.
[1:14:57] >> Or it may be that these are things that we can do but Riotinto needs to
[1:15:01] sign off on it as the owner. So I think
[1:15:03] it's premature to schedule anything with
[1:15:05] Riotinto until we've seen
[1:15:07] >> Okay. No, I was just asking how that
[1:15:08] works. So,
[1:15:09] >> and and I agree with you, Mick, as far
[1:15:11] as that 180 foot extension down the main
[1:15:15] street, which is in the city. Um, I
[1:15:18] don't have a problem with that, but I
[1:15:20] think we need to nail down the cost.
[1:15:22] >> I I I can agree. I agree with that.
[1:15:25] >> So, if what I'm hearing is we would come
[1:15:27] back to the board with a next month with
[1:15:30] a final cost. That would be the B what
[1:15:34] Magna Water's participating in and what
[1:15:37] we're providing. and then the cost that
[1:15:39] they would need to be expected to pay
[1:15:42] back. Is that Yeah. Is that a fair
[1:15:44] >> That's what I was hoping because I don't
[1:15:46] have a problem. Anything that goes in
[1:15:47] the street, I don't I don't think we
[1:15:50] necessarily need to push them on because
[1:15:51] they're an existing customer, not that
[1:15:53] it's a new facility where we, you know,
[1:15:56] push that on as part of that. So,
[1:15:59] >> how does that sound to the board? I I'm
[1:16:01] a little different about that, but my
[1:16:03] different is is if we're going to put
[1:16:05] that if we got to run that line over,
[1:16:07] why let's just put it in?
[1:16:10] >> Well, I think we are saying we would put
[1:16:12] it in.
[1:16:12] >> We would put it in and then
[1:16:13] >> but then the 4 in to their
[1:16:15] >> Oh, no, no, no. I understand that part.
[1:16:16] Okay.
[1:16:16] >> That would be what they would be
[1:16:18] responsible to pay back. Is that seem
[1:16:20] reasonable? I think that's that's
[1:16:22] >> and we could just have them pay back
[1:16:24] materials
[1:16:26] for that portion or we could have them
[1:16:29] pay back labor and materials since if
[1:16:31] we're putting that in.
[1:16:32] >> So
[1:16:33] >> bring it bring it back to board and then
[1:16:34] we can make a decision on that.
[1:16:36] >> We'll we'll make sure that those options
[1:16:37] are all available in that cost
[1:16:40] >> so that you could determine what com
[1:16:43] combination works. Does that sound okay?
[1:16:47] >> Yeah. I don't want to hold that up at
[1:16:48] all.
[1:16:48] >> Does that work with the golf course?
[1:16:54] I really want to use this as a starting
[1:16:55] point to build a partnership
[1:16:58] >> right
[1:16:58] >> with the board with water.
[1:17:03] I keep talking about 100 years. It's
[1:17:04] important it's important to
[1:17:11] basis or starting pointy
[1:17:14] project that we can apply for to ensure
[1:17:16] that that stays down there.
[1:17:21] » Well, like I said, this is how I feel.
[1:17:23] I'm going to speak as the chair of the
[1:17:25] board. I'm going speak as the mayor. Um
[1:17:27] I don't want to see that golf course go
[1:17:29] away. So, whatever we can do to help
[1:17:30] sustain that golf course, if we lose the
[1:17:33] golf course, you might as well say kiss
[1:17:34] good Magna goodbye because that's all we
[1:17:37] have out here that's ever stayed here.
[1:17:40] And we'll work, you guys have worked
[1:17:41] very hard to keep that. You run off a
[1:17:43] shoestring
[1:17:45] and u you know, so whatever I could do
[1:17:48] at my end, I'm willing to you know,
[1:17:52] again, I have people I answer to, too.
[1:17:54] So,
[1:17:56] >> but I want to see the golf course stay
[1:17:57] too on that.
[1:18:00] >> So, I I think we
[1:18:01] >> wants to talk.
[1:18:02] >> I think we can make a motion to move
[1:18:04] ahead on option one if we need to.
[1:18:07] >> I I agree.
[1:18:08] >> But we also need to con continue with
[1:18:11] option two and get the rest of the data
[1:18:13] from the golf course
[1:18:14] >> on option two because we have incomplete
[1:18:16] data.
[1:18:17] >> Right. I think we're I think we're
[1:18:19] getting there on that. We just have the
[1:18:22] analysis. It's so much more volume.
[1:18:24] Yeah,
[1:18:25] >> that it changes what we can do,
[1:18:29] >> how we would approach that. Okay.
[1:18:31] >> So, that's what's going to take a little
[1:18:32] bit of time.
[1:18:33] >> Well, if it is 1,800, that would make a
[1:18:36] big difference over a,000. That's almost
[1:18:38] double.
[1:18:39] >> Yeah.
[1:18:40] >> So, I don't know if they I don't know if
[1:18:43] they have anything that
[1:18:44] >> you can run across the ground that would
[1:18:46] determine if there's a leak or something
[1:18:48] in the line. turn.
[1:18:49] >> I mean, all I know is you can shut the
[1:18:51] valve off and see how long it takes and
[1:18:53] it would probably like that.
[1:18:55] >> Yeah.
[1:18:58] >> Sound
[1:19:00] >> It's It's a lot of water. There's
[1:19:02] probably some leaks. I mean, you know,
[1:19:04] you've got trees, it's mature, their
[1:19:06] pipes been there a long time.
[1:19:08] >> We just know in this ground, it doesn't
[1:19:10] go to the surface.
[1:19:11] >> A water leak doesn't go to the surface.
[1:19:13] It goes in the ground.
[1:19:15] >> Yeah. It goes down into that pipe right
[1:19:17] where they need to get that all piped
[1:19:19] in.
[1:19:22] >> Okay, that is that's it.
[1:19:24] >> Thank you you guys. Appreciate you.
[1:19:26] >> Can I ask a question?
[1:19:27] >> What is that?
[1:19:28] >> This is Canox's property or whoever. If
[1:19:31] it's a major improvement for their
[1:19:32] personal property, wouldn't they be
[1:19:34] interested in paying money to have
[1:19:37] improved if it's an upgrade for their
[1:19:39] property?
[1:19:40] >> You know what? You would you would think
[1:19:42] so, but unfortunately it doesn't work
[1:19:44] that way. and we'll I'll give you detail
[1:19:46] down the road. So,
[1:19:48] >> they're they're really tight right now.
[1:19:50] They're being very cautious what they
[1:19:51] spend.
[1:19:57] » I know. I I I Hey, I understand that.
[1:20:00] >> They won't talk about that.
[1:20:03] >> Thank you,
[1:20:03] >> Mr. Chair. We have a motion on the floor
[1:20:05] that
[1:20:06] >> to continue option one. So, we just
[1:20:08] >> the motion on the floor, option one. We
[1:20:11] need a second on it.
[1:20:13] >> Oh, sorry. Been motion second. All in
[1:20:15] favor?
[1:20:16] >> I
[1:20:16] >> thank you.
[1:20:28] » Okay, let's move on to engineering.
[1:20:31] >> Okay,
[1:20:32] >> let's move back to our regular bean. I
[1:20:34] mean back to our on our agenda.
[1:20:37] >> Thanks, chair and board. Um the
[1:20:39] engineering report. Things to note. Um
[1:20:43] the Influent pump station project uh
[1:20:46] moving along well. The pumps, screw
[1:20:48] pumps are in there. They're working on
[1:20:51] some power things and then we'll be able
[1:20:52] to grout those channels and we'll see
[1:20:54] those spin. That'll be really really
[1:20:57] great. Um they installed some large
[1:21:00] manholes continuing to put in some of
[1:21:02] that piping and the grit is moving along
[1:21:05] well. Also a lot of electrical and
[1:21:08] mechanical within the building. and then
[1:21:10] also working on one of the grit
[1:21:14] separators and the piping over to the
[1:21:16] new grit building.
[1:21:18] Um Hanes well number eight, we have that
[1:21:22] out to bid right now. Um that and that
[1:21:25] is strictly the drilling of that well.
[1:21:29] Um the building, we're still working
[1:21:32] with the EPA and that grant funding. Um,
[1:21:36] and that'll be used solely for the
[1:21:38] building, uh, the pump station itself.
[1:21:40] So, we moved forward on the drilling of
[1:21:42] that. The bids will be due on the 23rd.
[1:21:44] We had a pre-construction meeting which
[1:21:46] went really well or a pre-bid meeting,
[1:21:48] sorry. Uh, went really well. There's
[1:21:51] seems to be quite a bit of interest.
[1:21:53] There's, I think, eight contractors that
[1:21:56] have requested plans and specs and so
[1:21:59] looking forward to to that bid opening.
[1:22:03] um Westside Collection Project 1B. Um
[1:22:06] the fiber optic conflict, we've got a
[1:22:09] final design on that. Um we're turning
[1:22:12] that over to BD Bush, who was a
[1:22:14] contractor on that project to get us a
[1:22:16] cost
[1:22:18] >> to
[1:22:19] >> BD Bush.
[1:22:20] >> Oh, never heard.
[1:22:22] >> They did the the collection piping
[1:22:25] install. They have a separate bore
[1:22:26] contractor, but they'll there'll be a
[1:22:28] separate one for this also because it
[1:22:30] has to be under UDOT's uh spec and one
[1:22:33] of their contractor preferred
[1:22:36] contractors. So, we'll have a number on
[1:22:38] that I I believe by next month.
[1:22:42] Um,
[1:22:44] we change house. We do have 90% plans
[1:22:48] that we'll start reviewing and we'll share some of that information
[1:22:51] with you.
[1:22:53] um zone 3 reservoir. Um there's a lot of
[1:22:58] groundwater up there. Um didn't see a
[1:23:01] lot in the geotechnical, but we're
[1:23:03] seeing quite a few little bubble up
[1:23:06] >> pit springs
[1:23:07] >> areas. And so we've been chasing that a
[1:23:10] lot, working a lot on on the drain
[1:23:12] piping um to dry that up. Uh very
[1:23:16] important for the constructibility and
[1:23:18] longterm on that. Um they've they've
[1:23:20] installed some of the 16inch pipe and
[1:23:23] that was going well. Also, uh lead and
[1:23:26] copper, that project is underway.
[1:23:29] They're starting on 9100 South. Um
[1:23:33] the they did some saw cutting and
[1:23:35] investigation yesterday and today, and
[1:23:37] they'll start replacing service lines on
[1:23:40] our side um starting next week, Monday.
[1:23:44] Um we've had a lot of good interaction
[1:23:47] with the public. They seem to be
[1:23:49] receptive of allowing us to replace
[1:23:51] their lines. I think we have a couple
[1:23:53] that have denied it, which is okay.
[1:23:57] >> Really? I can't believe that. It's
[1:23:58] weird. Why wouldn't you want your line
[1:23:59] changed out for nothing
[1:24:01] >> for yard displays?
[1:24:03] >> Yeah.
[1:24:04] >> One one of them has a lot of trees. He
[1:24:07] really loves his yard and he doesn't
[1:24:08] want anyone touching it. And
[1:24:10] >> we do have them sign a waiver.
[1:24:11] >> Yep. Exactly. And then we just have to
[1:24:13] track it and we each year we have to,
[1:24:16] you know, notice them and say, "Hey, you
[1:24:18] should get this replaced." And then if
[1:24:21] the home sells, we have to update, you
[1:24:23] know, inform that new person, but
[1:24:25] they're not eligible for us to replace
[1:24:27] it in the future, which they understand.
[1:24:29] >> We connect inside the house where the
[1:24:31] main goes to.
[1:24:32] >> It depends on what the material is
[1:24:34] coming out. We're seeing a lot of them
[1:24:35] are copper stubbed and then galvanized
[1:24:38] to that. And so we'll replace up to
[1:24:40] that. Some of them were we are going to
[1:24:42] go inside. Um
[1:24:44] >> I just wonder what you're going to find
[1:24:45] inside.
[1:24:46] >> It's
[1:24:47] >> So what do you do when you hit a problem
[1:24:49] like that? Do we write a letter and say
[1:24:52] >> Well, the contract
[1:24:54] >> the contract is to go into the shut all
[1:24:56] the way to the shut off valve.
[1:24:58] >> So we're covered that way.
[1:25:00] >> Yeah.
[1:25:01] >> Some of them don't have shut offs.
[1:25:03] >> Some some of them have whatever wonky
[1:25:07] valve they had at the time, too. So,
[1:25:09] we'll end up improving some of that,
[1:25:11] too.
[1:25:11] >> Okay.
[1:25:12] >> For them as part of this. And that's all
[1:25:14] under the contract.
[1:25:18] » That sounds great.
[1:25:19] >> Um, and then yeah, the EDR just in
[1:25:23] design there um for the finishing feed
[1:25:25] and the master plan. We're moving into
[1:25:28] our rate study analysis portion of that.
[1:25:31] >> We can report more on that in the
[1:25:34] future. But
[1:25:34] >> yeah,
[1:25:35] >> that's it
[1:25:36] >> for now.
[1:25:37] >> Thanks, Trevor. appreciate the report.
[1:25:39] Thank you.
[1:25:40] >> Okay, let's move on. See to your water
[1:25:41] report.
[1:25:42] >> All right. Thank you, board chair. So,
[1:25:44] the culinary water production for the
[1:25:46] month of February was 94.02
[1:25:50] million gallons or 288.56
[1:25:53] acre feet. And that's a 38% decrease
[1:25:58] from February of 2025.
[1:26:01] So far, year to date, we purchased 60.02
[1:26:05] acre feet of water from Jordan Valley.
[1:26:08] As far as the call outs go, we've had a
[1:26:11] total of 14 for the month. 10 of those
[1:26:13] were on the water side and four were on
[1:26:16] the wastewater side for a total of 45.5
[1:26:20] hours. 30 of those were water and 15.5
[1:26:24] ended up wastewater.
[1:26:26] >> Steve, do we notice them lower in the
[1:26:28] winter time than in the summer?
[1:26:30] >> You know, it just varies. I mean, yeah.
[1:26:33] >> So, temperature doesn't matter as
[1:26:35] >> it it does. part in it, but it kind of
[1:26:39] changes the calls from a different type
[1:26:42] of call. So,
[1:26:44] >> um like this month we didn't have any
[1:26:47] main lines. Um we had one service line
[1:26:50] and then the rest of them were pretty
[1:26:53] much like for the water part anyways.
[1:26:55] The rest of them were on the homeowner
[1:26:57] side.
[1:26:58] >> It seems like when we get really
[1:26:59] extremely cold weather that seems when
[1:27:02] everything shows up.
[1:27:03] >> It Yeah, it does. I mean,
[1:27:06] but at the same time during the summer,
[1:27:09] the spring, fall, it kind of the
[1:27:12] ground's shifting and we start to see a
[1:27:14] lot then too. So, it just depends. It
[1:27:16] varies.
[1:27:18] Um, that's really all I have unless you
[1:27:21] guys had any questions about any
[1:27:22] questions about earlier.
[1:27:24] >> No. Thank you.
[1:27:26] >> Okay. Dallas.
[1:27:27] >> Yes, sir. Mr. Chairman, I've got just a
[1:27:29] couple things I wanted to go over. Um,
[1:27:32] Mr. Dilly mentioned that we filed the
[1:27:34] annual bioolids permit. Um that's an
[1:27:37] annual report that we have to do to the
[1:27:38] state. That just talks about how much
[1:27:40] sludge we've hauled, how much chemical
[1:27:42] we've used. Um there's two different
[1:27:45] units that they look at that in 866
[1:27:48] drymetric tons. That's how we report it.
[1:27:51] And the way we calculate that inhouse,
[1:27:53] it was just over 14,45,360
[1:27:58] lbs for the year 2025. That's 440 loads
[1:28:02] with no deficiencies reported. Um,
[1:28:06] February operations are really stable
[1:28:08] even with the fluctuating temperatures.
[1:28:10] We've been able to walk the mix liquor
[1:28:12] suspended solids concentrations in the
[1:28:14] aeration basins down to about 2,000. Um,
[1:28:17] that's going to be really good for us as
[1:28:19] we move into April and May. We like to
[1:28:21] operate between 1,800 and 2,000 during
[1:28:24] the summer months. Um, so to be there,
[1:28:26] that's a good head start for us. Um,
[1:28:29] when I say operations are stable and
[1:28:31] running well, I think the board's been
[1:28:34] around long enough to know that there's
[1:28:35] been some issues with ammonia in the
[1:28:37] past. Ammonia is really stable. We're
[1:28:39] getting good nitrification reliability.
[1:28:41] Um, and everything's looking really
[1:28:43] good. So,
[1:28:45] um, the collections crew,
[1:28:47] >> I got one question.
[1:28:48] >> Yes, sir.
[1:28:49] >> So, the ammonia thing, does it have
[1:28:50] anything? We've had really good weather.
[1:28:53] >> So, does that change when it's really
[1:28:55] cold and the bugs are cold? really cold
[1:28:58] is one factor in it. Um the mixed liquor
[1:29:01] concentration if that gets too high and
[1:29:04] then our our lack of air injection. So
[1:29:07] um but when you balance all those out we
[1:29:09] can get the we can keep the ammonia low.
[1:29:12] So we've got a monthly permit limit of
[1:29:15] seven but then we have a max daily of
[1:29:18] 30. Um and we haven't been over a max
[1:29:21] daily of three this year. Wow.
[1:29:23] >> So we're we're doing really well. Um,
[1:29:26] just an update on the collections crew
[1:29:28] and some of the maintenance that they're
[1:29:30] doing right now. They're working in
[1:29:32] downtown Magna. They're on the 8800
[1:29:35] block below 3100 and they're kind of
[1:29:37] working their way north and then over
[1:29:39] towards that corner pocket of 84 and um
[1:29:43] down there by Magnum Main Street. So,
[1:29:46] and that's all I have, Mr. Chairman,
[1:29:47] unless you've got any questions.
[1:29:49] >> Nope, that's it. Thank you, Leo.
[1:29:52] >> Thank you, chair board. Um,
[1:29:56] the only thing I have to report that we
[1:29:58] need to comply with by the end of this
[1:30:00] month is our impact fee report. It's due
[1:30:03] to the state auditor's office um on
[1:30:06] March 31st.
[1:30:08] Uh, wanted to also report the pretty
[1:30:11] much final trial balance was submitted
[1:30:13] to the auditors this week. So, Mick, you
[1:30:17] just signed a auditor's engagement
[1:30:19] letter,
[1:30:20] >> right? They should be up and going
[1:30:23] probably after I don't know when when
[1:30:25] they have time but everything is
[1:30:27] submitted to them
[1:30:29] and that's my report unless you have any
[1:30:31] questions.
[1:30:32] >> You guys have any questions?
[1:30:34] >> Good.
[1:30:34] >> Okay. Thank you. Um so I guess we'll
[1:30:37] move on. Andrew's left the room so let's
[1:30:40] go to water and sewer availability.
[1:30:43] >> Okay.
[1:30:46] >> Go ahead. Just go ahead.
[1:30:50] Okay,
[1:30:51] first one here is uh SLCE 319
[1:30:55] development.
[1:30:57] So this is uh let's see, I'm going to
[1:31:00] pull it up on
[1:31:03] GIS so we can see visually where this
[1:31:06] is. Uh Ana Caroline Drive, uh Parkway
[1:31:10] Boulevard, if you you know where the
[1:31:12] Windco is over there. If you head north
[1:31:14] along along that street
[1:31:17] >> is that along the WCO road is right.
[1:31:19] Okay, I know what you're talking.
[1:31:20] >> Just keep heading north. 2400 south goes
[1:31:24] over Mountain View and this is 2300
[1:31:27] >> under Mountain View. Right.
[1:31:29] >> Goes over
[1:31:30] >> over the top.
[1:31:30] >> Goes over the top.
[1:31:31] >> Oh
[1:31:32] >> yeah. But just Yeah. give you an idea of
[1:31:35] where we're at. They this this
[1:31:37] development has purchased
[1:31:40] parcels on both sides of 2300 South and
[1:31:44] what they're planning right now is a a
[1:31:45] single warehouse to the north. Um and
[1:31:48] you'll notice in the letter that we
[1:31:50] reference our water and sewer in 2300.
[1:31:53] Still be to be determined if that's
[1:31:55] remaining in initial con conversations
[1:31:58] that would remain. Right now it's in
[1:32:00] rightway. we would get an easement as
[1:32:02] part of that. But as far as providing
[1:32:05] water and sewer, we have sufficient
[1:32:07] flows, fire flow, um, and capacity, and
[1:32:13] we'd recommend providing water and sewer
[1:32:15] service to this development.
[1:32:18] Do you have any questions?
[1:32:19] >> I don't. We just We need a motion on it,
[1:32:21] right?
[1:32:22] >> Yep.
[1:32:25] » So, Mr. Mr. Chairman, make a motion
[1:32:28] uh for SLC 319 development located at
[1:32:32] 5750 West, 2300 South for sure and
[1:32:36] water.
[1:32:37] >> I'll second that.
[1:32:38] >> A motion second. All in favor?
[1:32:40] >> Okay, Trevor, I'll let you take the next
[1:32:42] one and then we'll come back over to
[1:32:43] Andrew.
[1:32:44] >> Uh next one is Moody subdivision lot
[1:32:46] number four. Um
[1:32:49] if you recall there is we we had a
[1:32:53] previous subdivision Moody Sillmaster.
[1:32:56] Um and this is what that was was a
[1:32:59] commercial development. They put in the
[1:33:01] initial infrastructure with that
[1:33:03] development and then they let the lots
[1:33:06] were bare. Um and so as each of those
[1:33:09] lots come in and develop, we're
[1:33:11] evaluating what goes in there uh in
[1:33:14] those connections. So this is lot number
[1:33:17] four of that subdivision. We did lot
[1:33:20] eight and nine.
[1:33:21] >> So Trevor was one big lot and so then
[1:33:24] they decided to subdivide it.
[1:33:26] >> Correct.
[1:33:27] >> How do we get the water and sewer? Do we
[1:33:29] have to do a rightway to get to the back
[1:33:31] lots?
[1:33:32] >> So So when they did the overall
[1:33:36] subdivision
[1:33:37] >> Uhhuh.
[1:33:38] >> we already had, and this is pretty
[1:33:40] accurate, we already had water in here,
[1:33:43] a water loop. Um, and they they ended up
[1:33:46] putting in w a secondary and sewer back
[1:33:49] into here. It's like a culde-sac. Um,
[1:33:52] and then they stubbed out services to
[1:33:54] each of these lots very similar to a
[1:33:58] residential subdivision, but it's a
[1:34:00] commercial one. And so when these lots,
[1:34:03] all that main infrastructure is in. And
[1:34:06] when these lots come in, then we know
[1:34:08] what building type is going to be there.
[1:34:10] And then we evaluate the service
[1:34:12] specific to that to that building on
[1:34:14] that lot.
[1:34:15] >> So how many are still vacant then?
[1:34:18] >> Oh, there's got to be one, two, three,
[1:34:22] four, probably five.
[1:34:24] >> Is there impact fees for each?
[1:34:26] >> Correct.
[1:34:27] >> Yeah.
[1:34:31] » All right,
[1:34:33] Mr. Mr. Chairman, I'd like to make a
[1:34:34] motion for uh Moody subdivision lot 4
[1:34:38] located 2258 South Moody Drive.
[1:34:42] >> I'll second that.
[1:34:43] >> A motion second. All in favor?
[1:34:45] >> I I
[1:34:46] >> Okay, Andrew, I'm coming back to you.
[1:34:47] So, I'm all over the place this morning.
[1:34:49] Apologize.
[1:34:49] >> You're okay. I apologize. I had to step
[1:34:51] out. I had a multiple phone calls from
[1:34:53] an employee and would need to make sure
[1:34:54] it wasn't an emergency. So, everything
[1:34:57] was okay, though.
[1:34:58] >> Okay.
[1:35:00] Um
[1:35:01] so as you can see we have 35 of our 36
[1:35:05] positions currently filled here at the
[1:35:07] district. Um some of the trainings that
[1:35:10] we have coming up we have our uh our
[1:35:15] bianual on-site CPR and first aid and
[1:35:18] AED training coming up uh on the 23rd of
[1:35:21] March. We have Jean Stock getting ready
[1:35:23] to go to water efficient landscaper
[1:35:25] training. Uh so he can care for our
[1:35:28] gardens. It's through Jordan Valley.
[1:35:31] >> Um it should be a good training.
[1:35:33] >> Uh we have our team building coming up
[1:35:36] in April for the second quarter and then
[1:35:38] we have uh the fire department coming
[1:35:40] out to do an on-site fire extinguisher
[1:35:42] training with us at the end of April. Um
[1:35:46] this month we're focusing on blood work
[1:35:48] pathogens. It kind of coincides with the
[1:35:50] first aid and CPR training. Uh so
[1:35:53] everybody understands the risk that
[1:35:55] they're taking on as they respond to any
[1:35:59] emergency with first aid or CPR. Um got
[1:36:03] some conferences coming up. Probably the next two that are coming up that are
[1:36:07] going to be before the next board
[1:36:08] meeting. Uh March 16th through 18th
[1:36:11] water users in St. George. And then
[1:36:14] March 21st through April 2nd, Utah GFAO
[1:36:18] Le will be attending that.
[1:36:19] >> Should be the 31st, not there.
[1:36:22] >> That is a typo. Apologize.
[1:36:24] >> That's That one's in St. George as well.
[1:36:27] That's the government uh accounting
[1:36:29] organization.
[1:36:31] >> So, we've started the secession
[1:36:33] planning. Um the managers went through
[1:36:36] and filled out some information on where
[1:36:39] they see the key positions are and needs
[1:36:42] that are going to be coming up in future
[1:36:44] years as well as some of the risks that
[1:36:46] they're seeing. Uh right now we're in
[1:36:49] the stage of the employees are filling
[1:36:51] out a survey on positions that they
[1:36:54] might be interested in filling and then
[1:36:56] next week we'll start meeting with those
[1:36:58] employees to uh align their goals with
[1:37:03] the district goals. Um give them a
[1:37:05] better understanding what what's going
[1:37:07] to be available. Um and then lastly,
[1:37:10] annual employee goals. We've wrapped
[1:37:13] those up. We brought them to the board
[1:37:15] to review. Um, we'll take any changes
[1:37:18] that the board sees fit and then we'll
[1:37:21] get started on them.
[1:37:23] >> That's it for me, chair board. Thank
[1:37:25] you. Is there any other questions?
[1:37:26] >> On the uh April 22nd to the 24th, Jordan
[1:37:30] Valley is putting that on. Is that
[1:37:32] right?
[1:37:33] >> Yes.
[1:37:33] Correct.
[1:37:34] >> And where will that be?
[1:37:35] >> At their facility.
[1:37:37] >> Yes.
[1:37:38] >> Is any public invited to go there?
[1:37:40] >> Um, yeah. I think anybody can do it.
[1:37:42] landscapers, they they encourage
[1:37:44] landscapers to get it so that they can
[1:37:48] start performing those things here in
[1:37:50] the communities when they go build
[1:37:51] somebody's landscape.
[1:37:53] >> So, is that make sure that the
[1:37:55] contractors putting something in that
[1:37:57] they could get a grant for, get
[1:37:59] reimbured for?
[1:37:59] >> I believe so.
[1:38:00] >> That's what the whole thing is is for
[1:38:02] qualifications.
[1:38:03] >> Yes. We also have that class on the
[1:38:05] 15th, April 15th here that Jordan Valley
[1:38:08] puts on the local scapes class and
[1:38:10] they'll go over a lot of that
[1:38:11] >> for the public.
[1:38:14] >> Who teaches the class there?
[1:38:16] >> They do.
[1:38:16] >> It's Jordan Valley.
[1:38:17] >> Oh, they come here.
[1:38:18] >> So, is that that's at night, right?
[1:38:19] >> You don't get that.
[1:38:20] >> What time does that stop?
[1:38:21] >> 5:30.
[1:38:22] >> April 15th.
[1:38:23] >> How How long does it go for?
[1:38:25] >> It's about an hour.
[1:38:26] >> Okay.
[1:38:27] >> We had a pretty good turnout last time.
[1:38:29] We
[1:38:29] >> We did. We'll be getting a flyer put
[1:38:31] together and sent out. So, so that one
[1:38:33] that he's talking about is geared
[1:38:34] towards homeowners. This is a larger
[1:38:37] course that's geared towards landscapers
[1:38:39] themselves. And then there's a Yeah. And
[1:38:41] then there's a exam that they have to
[1:38:43] pass to show that they're qualified.
[1:38:46] >> Oh, wow.
[1:38:46] >> And then that they carry that
[1:38:49] qualification.
[1:38:51] >> Okay.
[1:38:52] >> Well, thank you, Andrew.
[1:38:53] >> Yep.
[1:38:55] >> Okay. Let's move it on to the part uh
[1:38:57] our project reward and agreement. Uh
[1:38:59] Trevor.
[1:39:00] >> Okay.
[1:39:01] Thank you, chair board. First one here
[1:39:03] is for JUB engineers.
[1:39:06] Um, if you remember, they helped us with
[1:39:09] design of Westside Collection project
[1:39:12] number two. Um,
[1:39:14] as they got done wrapping that up, I
[1:39:17] believe they did a really good job, uh,
[1:39:20] very thorough, um, responsive to our
[1:39:23] concerns and our comments during that
[1:39:26] design. and we had anticipated doing um
[1:39:31] project number three design as well. So
[1:39:34] I asked them to put together um this
[1:39:38] task order um scope and fee for design
[1:39:41] of Westside Coll sorry Westside
[1:39:44] Collection project number three and
[1:39:46] that's what this is for.
[1:39:49] Um if you have any specific questions to what's in there um otherwise
[1:39:55] >> is going to be on and above what's
[1:39:57] already been approved or
[1:39:59] >> so they did we we had already approved
[1:40:02] um Westside Collection project 2 and
[1:40:04] they and we took that to 95% because we
[1:40:07] weren't going to bid it. So those specs
[1:40:09] and and plans are complete. Um, and then
[1:40:13] we wanted to move to designing project
[1:40:15] number three, and that's where this
[1:40:18] scope and fee is for.
[1:40:20] >> So, Mr. Chairman, I'd like to make a
[1:40:21] motion to approve the
[1:40:24] JUB task order for Westside Collection
[1:40:27] Project 3, design and bidding in the
[1:40:29] amount of $190,200.
[1:40:32] >> I'll second that.
[1:40:33] >> Motion a second. All in favor? I
[1:40:35] >> I
[1:40:36] Trevor.
[1:40:37] >> Thank you. Um,
[1:40:40] jump back here.
[1:40:43] Okay. Uh, we just talked about Westside
[1:40:47] Collection. So, this easement is for
[1:40:50] Westside Collection project number two.
[1:40:53] There's a large portion of our existing
[1:40:55] sewer. Um, I'll pull up a map here that
[1:40:58] runs along Highway 2011
[1:41:01] along the south side between 8000
[1:41:06] west and 8,400 west. And as part of
[1:41:10] project number two, we're going to
[1:41:11] parallel that sewer line. It's this one
[1:41:14] here. You can
[1:41:15] >> What's the offset?
[1:41:17] >> Offset.
[1:41:18] >> Yeah.
[1:41:19] It's roughly
[1:41:21] it it differs a little bit but generally
[1:41:24] around 30 ft of separation between the
[1:41:26] two and that puts us a little bit
[1:41:28] further to the south which essentially
[1:41:31] all these parcels are kicott parcels. Um
[1:41:35] primarily the existing line remained in the UD do rideway. um with our new
[1:41:42] alignment, we're needing some easement
[1:41:45] from Kennot for this new line. And so
[1:41:48] that's what this easement agreement is.
[1:41:51] Um we we have a pretty standard easement
[1:41:54] agreement with Kakott that we've used
[1:41:56] throughout the district over time. It's
[1:41:58] changed a little bit. So we've gone
[1:42:00] through this, reviewed it with them.
[1:42:01] Nathan and I have both looked at this
[1:42:04] and reviewed. Um and if you It gives us
[1:42:08] the easement that we need for access. um
[1:42:11] to maintain this sewer line. And if you
[1:42:15] look at the last page in your packet
[1:42:19] with this one, you'll see a cost
[1:42:23] associated with that easement.
[1:42:27] Keep scrolling.
[1:42:30] >> You were able to cut that down a little
[1:42:32] bit.
[1:42:33] So in discussions with them um these are in their mind and according to
[1:42:42] what they've been offered kind of prime
[1:42:45] areas near 8,000 near 2011 and so
[1:42:49] they've actually got some offers for
[1:42:50] these properties that are quite high. Um
[1:42:54] and they weren't interested in
[1:42:56] negotiating the easement cost.
[1:42:58] >> Well,
[1:43:00] yeah,
[1:43:00] >> it doesn't hurt to try. We're beholden
[1:43:02] to that. We do need it. Um I you know
[1:43:06] they're still fair in the respect that
[1:43:08] they're they're looking at a 20%.
[1:43:11] A lot of easements when people are
[1:43:13] getting those they can be a lot higher
[1:43:15] than that. Um so that equals out to $6 a
[1:43:19] square foot. We've got 27,955
[1:43:23] square feet for a total of $167,730.
[1:43:28] Um so as part of this you know uh
[1:43:32] approving the going through with the
[1:43:34] agreement it would also be to pay that
[1:43:36] cost for the easement.
[1:43:37] >> Okay. So that cost has to be associated
[1:43:40] with that.
[1:43:41] >> Okay. So um
[1:43:45] Mr. Mr. Chairman, I'd like to make a
[1:43:46] motion to approve the lease agreement
[1:43:48] with Kennott or
[1:43:50] >> the easement.
[1:43:52] >> Oh, the easement agreement with Kennott
[1:43:54] on Westside Collection Project 2, the
[1:43:57] amount of 167730
[1:44:01] $167,730
[1:44:05] in motion second. All in favor?
[1:44:08] >> K. Dallas.
[1:44:08] >> Thank you.
[1:44:09] chair and board. Uh we've got
[1:44:11] today presenting the annual acoustic
[1:44:14] assessment project um that we partnered
[1:44:17] with RH Bordon. We're targeting this
[1:44:19] year 250,000 linear feet or or just
[1:44:23] under 50 miles of sewer pipeline. Um
[1:44:27] I've got a picture of a map to kind of
[1:44:29] talk through about how we're
[1:44:31] prioritizing and targeting the system.
[1:44:33] >> Wow.
[1:44:34] >> Anything that's orange has been done and
[1:44:37] we have a solid baseline on. We won't
[1:44:40] redo that this year. Um, anything in
[1:44:43] that main trunk corridor that's red,
[1:44:45] yellow, and green, we'll target that
[1:44:47] area specifically. Um, we no longer
[1:44:51] assess downtown Magna. We know that
[1:44:54] based on um, pipe conditions and roots
[1:44:58] and stuff, we have to flush that twice a
[1:45:00] year. So, we don't inspect that
[1:45:02] acoustically. Um, and then on those main
[1:45:04] trunk lines, we don't acoustically
[1:45:06] inspect those. We did it initially to
[1:45:09] establish that baseline and then get
[1:45:11] these geo tags so that we can populate
[1:45:13] these these uh base maps into our GIS
[1:45:17] system. But really the
[1:45:21] our our strategy is that center corridor
[1:45:26] um that's where we spend most of our
[1:45:27] time. These guys will come in and
[1:45:29] they'll assess all of that. Um that
[1:45:32] would take us over a year to do. They
[1:45:34] can come in and help us out with that.
[1:45:36] It gives it gives each section that's
[1:45:39] assessed a grade from good to poor. If
[1:45:44] there's anything that comes up that's,
[1:45:46] you know, on a 1 to 10, five or less,
[1:45:48] it'll automatically send us an alert and
[1:45:50] we'll be able to go and target that
[1:45:52] section specifically. So, um,
[1:45:54] >> does that determine that determine leaks
[1:45:57] or quality of the material?
[1:45:59] >> It'll it'll detect any type of blockage
[1:46:01] or flow restriction.
[1:46:02] >> Oh, okay. That's all it is is for flow
[1:46:05] or blockage. Yeah. Um it's been a great
[1:46:08] service for us. So they're now you know
[1:46:13] through your permit you have to inspect
[1:46:16] your entire system x amount of times per
[1:46:19] x amount of years. Um this is now an
[1:46:22] approved inspection device. So if we run
[1:46:25] through this with if we run this
[1:46:27] equipment through our system, we can
[1:46:29] check that box as an inspection. So, um,
[1:46:32] >> so everything you've got green and red
[1:46:35] now will be yellow by next year.
[1:46:37] >> No. So, when you look at that, those are
[1:46:40] the different grades that have come
[1:46:41] back. So, X amount of our system is
[1:46:43] green, which is a grade of seven or
[1:46:47] higher. Anything that's yellow would be
[1:46:49] seven to like four, and then anything
[1:46:51] that would be red would be three to
[1:46:53] zero. Um so if you see something that on
[1:46:57] that inspection day um resulted in a red
[1:47:02] section then we would go out immediately flush that and then it'll go
[1:47:06] back to green. So it's just one way to
[1:47:09] track and then we've got a dashboard
[1:47:11] that we can layer the data
[1:47:13] year-over-year so we can see how much
[1:47:15] we're improving. Right now we've got
[1:47:17] about 95% of our system is seven or
[1:47:23] higher. Oh wow, that's good.
[1:47:25] >> So, but without the data, we're just
[1:47:28] guessing.
[1:47:28] >> Um, but this is a this is using
[1:47:32] technology to strategically maintain and
[1:47:36] assess our system.
[1:47:37] >> That's pretty cool.
[1:47:38] >> Yeah.
[1:47:39] >> So, I remember when they came up with
[1:47:41] that saves a lot of men.
[1:47:44] >> And what what we're asking for on this
[1:47:46] contract, Mr. Chairman, is just uh
[1:47:48] 64,500
[1:47:50] is the dollar amount.
[1:47:54] Okay.
[1:47:55] >> How many miles of pipe is that?
[1:47:57] >> It's about 47.5.
[1:47:59] >> Say 47.
[1:48:04] » Okay. Mr. Chairman, I'd like to make a
[1:48:06] motion to approve the annual acoustic
[1:48:09] inspection services with RH Bordon
[1:48:13] the collection system in the amount of
[1:48:15] $64,500.
[1:48:17] >> I'll second that.
[1:48:18] >> In motion second. All in favor? Hi.
[1:48:20] >> Hi.
[1:48:21] >> Okay, Trevor, let's do the lease
[1:48:22] agreement with Kakott.
[1:48:23] >> Okay,
[1:48:25] so water right lease agreement. Um, this
[1:48:29] is for a kakott spring right uh 593198.
[1:48:34] And right now we collect that water and
[1:48:36] we put it in our zone 2 reservoir.
[1:48:38] >> Um, and we've been doing that since that
[1:48:40] reservoir was built um, 2021. And we do
[1:48:44] an application or rather Kakott fills
[1:48:48] out an application each year, a
[1:48:50] temporary change application to allow us
[1:48:52] to use that water. At the back in 21
[1:48:57] when we first started taking the water,
[1:48:59] there was talk of a lease agreement.
[1:49:01] There was a draft of it and it went
[1:49:04] nowhere. Uh we don't truly know where
[1:49:07] the hangup was. It seemed like uh
[1:49:11] >> that's personnel changes
[1:49:12] >> personnel changes at Kennott and it
[1:49:14] slipped through, but um they reached out
[1:49:17] to us several months ago last late last
[1:49:20] year um talking about this lease
[1:49:23] agreement. They wanted to get it back in motion and get it in place.
[1:49:27] >> Is this a little creek that runs down?
[1:49:30] >> We've piped it from within their
[1:49:32] property and it goes makes its way over
[1:49:35] to our reservoir.
[1:49:38] Um, it was like 10 I want to say 10
[1:49:42] roughly 10 acre feet
[1:49:45] a year. Um, it's not a tremendous
[1:49:49] amount, but
[1:49:50] >> what what I've been told like over the
[1:49:53] winter time, you know, we'll lower the
[1:49:54] level of our reservoir and it's full. I
[1:49:59] mean, it's just a constant flow of
[1:50:01] water. Um,
[1:50:02] >> so maybe it's depending on how much rain
[1:50:05] water we get. We've seen it fluctuate a
[1:50:07] little bit.
[1:50:08] >> Oh, really?
[1:50:08] >> Um, we measure it every month and that's
[1:50:11] how we report to Kakott that reports to
[1:50:14] water rights.
[1:50:15] >> Kennot probably has got a water right on
[1:50:17] that water.
[1:50:18] >> They do and they need beneficial use. We
[1:50:20] provide that. So, with with all of that,
[1:50:23] they would like a a lease agreement in
[1:50:25] place. Um,
[1:50:28] >> the right is 29 acre feet, but we we
[1:50:32] have not seen it produce that much. Um,
[1:50:34] like I said, around 10 acre feet each
[1:50:37] year. Um, if you scroll through, what
[1:50:41] this comes with is a cost to the
[1:50:42] district. Um, and
[1:50:47] the way it's structured here is year 1
[1:50:49] through five, which they want to go
[1:50:51] retroactive back to 2021 through end of
[1:50:54] 26. It would be $10 per acre foot. So 10 time 10 $100. I mean, we're $100.
[1:51:04] cost us more to to write it up.
[1:51:07] >> Yeah.
[1:51:08] >> Um so it's it's a pretty in
[1:51:11] insignificant amount of water. Um but
[1:51:15] they would like this in place and
[1:51:16] >> just trying to get credit for it, right?
[1:51:18] >> Yeah. I think within their to be able to
[1:51:20] lease that water and and have it
[1:51:22] >> right.
[1:51:23] >> Yeah.
[1:51:23] >> Have it documented this way is important
[1:51:25] to them. I
[1:51:27] >> Well, they never want to be accused of
[1:51:29] giving something away. I can think uh
[1:51:31] back in the day that those guys grabbed
[1:51:33] the water that was going down creek
[1:51:35] that's been a plus for us.
[1:51:37] >> Yeah.
[1:51:37] >> Uh if the state would have got a hold of
[1:51:39] that that could have been pretty bad.
[1:51:41] >> Yeah.
[1:51:41] >> And I think it actually helped us be
[1:51:43] able to get it over in C7. Right.
[1:51:46] >> Yeah. So,
[1:51:48] um I I recommend
[1:51:52] approving this lease and allowing us to
[1:51:54] move forward with Kennot
[1:51:55] >> the lease agreement.
[1:51:56] >> Yep.
[1:51:58] >> Um
[1:51:59] So, Mr. Chairman, I make a motion to
[1:52:02] approve the lease agreement with Kennoff
[1:52:04] for Water Ride 59-3198.
[1:52:08] » I'll second that.
[1:52:09] >> Motion second. All in favor?
[1:52:11] >> I
[1:52:12] >> Okay, Trevor.
[1:52:13] >> Okay, last one.
[1:52:14] >> All on you.
[1:52:16] >> Okay, this is a storm drain easement.
[1:52:19] Um, we've discussed this in the past. Um
[1:52:23] there's construction waste management,
[1:52:25] the waste management company near the
[1:52:27] wastewater treatment plant. Um their
[1:52:30] intention is to reroute some storm water
[1:52:33] that runs through their property so that
[1:52:35] they can expand their waste site. And in
[1:52:39] doing so, they've approached us for an
[1:52:42] easement through a portion of a
[1:52:44] wastewater treatment plant property
[1:52:47] um over to take that, you know, pipe it
[1:52:50] and move the storm water into um
[1:52:54] what's that?
[1:52:55] >> Kersy.
[1:52:55] Yep. Kersy Creek.
[1:52:58] >> Did they take out the reservation? Did
[1:53:01] Are they the ones that marked this out
[1:53:02] or did we mark that out? Another
[1:53:04] >> us. So, so I'm in um Nathan and I are
[1:53:09] still working through this um some back
[1:53:11] and forth and but what I'm I guess what
[1:53:15] I'm looking for here is um you know we
[1:53:19] we've discussed providing this easement.
[1:53:22] Um so just an approval to continue to
[1:53:27] refine this agreement with with Nathan
[1:53:29] and myself and and move forward with
[1:53:32] them on providing the easement. One of
[1:53:34] the things is that we've kind of had
[1:53:37] some back and forth with them. First, it
[1:53:40] sounded like it was an easement to
[1:53:42] construction waste management and then
[1:53:43] it
[1:53:45] they provided something that had Magnus
[1:53:47] City on it and that that made some, you
[1:53:50] know, confusion on our end and I've
[1:53:52] gotten to the bottom of it. What they're
[1:53:54] working on with Magnus City is a storm
[1:53:56] drain um like management agreement. So
[1:54:00] this storm drain pipe would be owned and
[1:54:04] managed by construction waste
[1:54:06] management. It wouldn't be turned over
[1:54:07] to any public agency and that's where
[1:54:09] this agreement is with them um
[1:54:14] specifically and not with any city or
[1:54:17] >> other entity.
[1:54:19] >> No. And we'll make sure that that that
[1:54:22] agreement is you know we're not
[1:54:24] providing an easement if that agreement
[1:54:27] isn't in place.
[1:54:28] >> Okay.
[1:54:28] >> Does that make sense? So,
[1:54:31] >> so Mr. Chairman, I'd like to make a
[1:54:33] motion to approve the uh storm drain
[1:54:36] easement agreement to be granted to
[1:54:38] construction wast.
[1:54:40] >> I'll second that.
[1:54:41] >> Motion second. All in favor?
[1:54:43] >> I
[1:54:45] >> Okay, let's move on. Andrew Levolution.
[1:54:52] » Um, you want to take that first one le?
[1:54:56] >> Yeah, sure. Oh, so this is our
[1:54:58] resolution 202602
[1:55:01] and it includes
[1:55:04] basically
[1:55:06] three changes to our ARRS. So the first
[1:55:10] portion of the resolution is changing.
[1:55:13] Sorry, let me get
[1:55:14] >> section A.
[1:55:16] >> 6.4.
[1:55:17] >> Yeah. So the first one is isn't it the proceed or
[1:55:24] purchases?
[1:55:25] >> Yes.
[1:55:25] >> Yeah. Okay. So, it takes uh Clint's
[1:55:28] authorization from 50 to 100,000 um that
[1:55:31] was recommended by the board last month.
[1:55:34] >> And then the following B letter B
[1:55:37] through F I believe has to do with um
[1:55:40] >> the new junior executive
[1:55:42] >> adding our junior executive
[1:55:44] classification in the AR and are where
[1:55:46] it's applicable.
[1:55:48] >> Just can I speak to that? So, so most of
[1:55:51] the changes to the junior executives are
[1:55:53] in addendum E of the AR&Rs and that's
[1:55:55] the addendum that goes over all of their
[1:55:57] benefits, but we also needed to make
[1:55:59] some conforming changes throughout other
[1:56:01] sections of the A&R. So, this is kind of
[1:56:03] structured just sequentially with the
[1:56:05] numbers of your section, but
[1:56:07] categorically we're increasing Clint's
[1:56:09] purchasing threshold.
[1:56:10] >> Then the rest of these changes are
[1:56:12] dealing with just junior executive
[1:56:14] stuff. So it's it'll look weird as you
[1:56:16] go through because we're saying we're
[1:56:17] adopting the attached version of Adende
[1:56:19] and then we're amending all these other
[1:56:20] sections. And then the third category
[1:56:22] and I'm just beating Lelay all to the
[1:56:24] punches
[1:56:25] >> is to make our language consistent with
[1:56:27] the three tardies policy that you had.
[1:56:29] We had some inconsistency in the AR. So
[1:56:31] using the same term
[1:56:33] >> and that's all that this resolution
[1:56:35] does.
[1:56:36] >> I sorry I figured that would be easier
[1:56:38] than going through like nine different
[1:56:39] lines of technical legal changes.
[1:56:42] >> Thank you.
[1:56:44] That looks good.
[1:56:45] >> So, we have to uh we have to um approve
[1:56:48] it, right?
[1:56:49] >> Yeah. So, what'll happen is is the way I
[1:56:51] drafted this resolution is if this is
[1:56:53] acceptable to you, you'll approve it and
[1:56:55] then we will then implement these
[1:56:57] changes to the AR&Rs which will be easy.
[1:56:59] We'll have to update the you know
[1:57:01] pageionation and things like that and
[1:57:02] then we'll get it uploaded.
[1:57:03] >> Yeah, that makes it good. And one of
[1:57:05] those forms that you signed, Mick, kind
[1:57:07] of prompted this because,
[1:57:09] >> right,
[1:57:09] >> our APA benefits that administers the
[1:57:12] benefits,
[1:57:13] >> right?
[1:57:14] >> One of this signed and approved. So,
[1:57:18] >> so, Mr. Chairman, do I want to make a
[1:57:20] motion?
[1:57:20] >> Yes.
[1:57:21] >> Mr. Chairman, I'd like to make a motion
[1:57:22] to approve resolution 2026-02,
[1:57:27] approve the changes to the district's uh
[1:57:30] A&R as outlined in in that resolution.
[1:57:34] I'll second that
[1:57:35] >> in motion second. All in favor?
[1:57:37] >> I
[1:57:39] >> Okay, we don't need to do number two.
[1:57:41] We've already had that discussion
[1:57:43] information discussion only. No, no
[1:57:46] action. Nathan, do you want to give an
[1:57:47] update on the legislation?
[1:57:50] >> Yep. I know this is your favorite part
[1:57:51] of the meeting in the year. Um, so I've
[1:57:55] got a few bills. I'll go through them
[1:57:57] quickly. The first is HB147. that's
[1:57:59] going to require all government entities
[1:58:01] to provide an option for people to
[1:58:03] submit any forms or permit applications
[1:58:06] or things like that electronically.
[1:58:09] So, I mean, we can have the form and
[1:58:11] they can fill it out. There just needs
[1:58:12] to be a way that they can submit it
[1:58:13] electronically. Um, I think that's
[1:58:16] already kind of happening via email, but
[1:58:17] now it's so I don't think that's going
[1:58:19] to be a big deal. Um, another one that actually may be important for you
[1:58:23] is HB296.
[1:58:25] What that does is it allows for water
[1:58:27] that is being leased or provided to the
[1:58:30] Great Salt Lake, which you were doing,
[1:58:31] to be included in your 40-year plan,
[1:58:34] which is the topic of another bill that
[1:58:35] I'll get to. But essentially, with with
[1:58:38] public entities like you guys, you can
[1:58:40] hold your water rights without
[1:58:42] perfecting them for a period of 40
[1:58:44] years. And during that time, you're
[1:58:45] entitled to get any extension that you
[1:58:47] want. Once you hit 40 years, then the
[1:58:49] state's like, "Okay, you know, we don't
[1:58:51] want you just to hoard water. You've got
[1:58:53] to have a plan showing how you're going
[1:58:54] to use it for the next 40. Actually, I
[1:58:55] think it's 50 years and then you have to
[1:58:57] show how it's going to be used for the
[1:58:58] next 40.
[1:58:59] >> So, if we have a plan, we're okay. We
[1:59:01] can even roll it over after
[1:59:03] >> it just the So, the point is is our
[1:59:05] state's water laws are intended to
[1:59:07] ensure that people actually use the
[1:59:09] water and they're not hoarding it.
[1:59:10] >> So, public water suppliers are a little
[1:59:12] different. So, for instance, if we were
[1:59:14] to go out and prove up all your water
[1:59:15] right now, the state engineer would just
[1:59:17] give you a certificate for what you're
[1:59:19] using right now, not for what your water
[1:59:21] rights are approved. And so for a
[1:59:22] growing community like you guys, you
[1:59:24] have a lot of water that you have on
[1:59:26] standby that isn't being used yet.
[1:59:28] That's the intent here. But the
[1:59:30] legislature or the state at the same
[1:59:32] time, it's like, okay, you've had this
[1:59:34] water, it's been approved for 50 years.
[1:59:36] Like, are you going to need it or not?
[1:59:37] You got to show us a plan that there is
[1:59:39] an actual chance it'll be used in the
[1:59:41] next 40 years. What this does is it says
[1:59:43] that if you're leasing water to the
[1:59:44] Great Salt Lake, that counts as part of
[1:59:46] your 40-year plan. So otherwise, absent
[1:59:50] this bill, if we continue to lease water
[1:59:52] the Great Salt Lake, they could say,
[1:59:53] "Well, you're not using that water, and
[1:59:55] that doesn't qualify."
[1:59:57] >> Excuse me.
[1:59:58] >> So, does this account also for
[2:00:00] groundwater, well water?
[2:00:01] >> Yeah. But well, what this bill does is
[2:00:03] any water right that you're leasing,
[2:00:05] which is almost always surface water.
[2:00:07] People aren't leasing groundwater the
[2:00:08] lake, but it it I don't think it's
[2:00:10] limited to surface or groundwater. So,
[2:00:11] the point is is that and we we we're
[2:00:14] going to have to do a 40-year plan under
[2:00:15] another bill that I'll get to in a
[2:00:16] second, but when we do it, we can
[2:00:18] include those shares. So, the next thing
[2:00:21] is um HB 319. Uh this, I think, is a
[2:00:25] good bill. It provides a process by
[2:00:26] which we can have electronic notary
[2:00:29] documents be filed with the the the
[2:00:31] county. Um it's not mandatory, but it
[2:00:34] provides an option by which the county
[2:00:36] recorders can allow that. So, that makes
[2:00:37] it a lot easier if we can do electronic
[2:00:39] notoriization instead of having people
[2:00:41] come and physically sign. We'll see what
[2:00:42] the county recorders want to do. Um,
[2:00:45] there's some grammar changes. HB325 is
[2:00:48] one we'll need to go over those. Um,
[2:00:52] there's another bill, HB349, that comes
[2:00:55] it provides a new process by which you
[2:00:57] can apply for money from the Board of
[2:00:59] Water Resources to help increase
[2:01:00] reservoir capacity. I know you have a
[2:01:02] few small ones there. Um,
[2:01:06] there was a big bill that we talked
[2:01:07] about, HB501. This was the bill that was
[2:01:10] going to essentially require local water
[2:01:12] providers to impose a a local income tax
[2:01:15] essentially to help fund infrastructure
[2:01:18] projects. It was modified several times,
[2:01:20] but as we estimated, I think it was
[2:01:21] going to be what, $1,400 a year per
[2:01:23] connection. That bill ultimately did not
[2:01:26] pass at the last minute. Um, was kind of
[2:01:28] watching that till the end of the day. I
[2:01:30] do expect we're going to see something
[2:01:32] similar. My recommendation to rural
[2:01:34] water and to um the UASD and the water
[2:01:38] communities in general is the water
[2:01:40] community needs to come up with a
[2:01:41] proposal uh because to be fair to the
[2:01:44] legislature they are trying to fill a
[2:01:45] huge gap in the federal funding that
[2:01:47] we're no longer getting and it's an
[2:01:49] issue that needs to be addressed and if
[2:01:50] the water community doesn't come up with
[2:01:52] a way to fund it then the legislature is
[2:01:53] going to keep coming up with proposals
[2:01:55] we may not like. Um the other one uh
[2:01:58] there is a new bill HB535 that comes up
[2:02:00] with a new process by which a public
[2:02:03] entity has to follow before they can
[2:02:04] dispose of property. So for some of the
[2:02:06] properties we've acquired if we ever
[2:02:07] wanted to sell them. But the long and
[2:02:09] short of is we have to go through a
[2:02:10] 45day notice period so people have an
[2:02:12] idea that we're selling it.
[2:02:14] >> Um perhaps the the the biggest bill
[2:02:16] that's going to require us to do things
[2:02:18] is SB284. Each year the legislature has
[2:02:21] a very large land use bill that is
[2:02:23] passed that isn't typically targeted at
[2:02:25] water but often has uh tangential
[2:02:28] impacts and and that bill usually passes
[2:02:31] at the very end of the session. That was
[2:02:33] the case here. This was SB284. It was
[2:02:35] passed at 11:45
[2:02:38] on Friday, so 15 minutes before the end
[2:02:40] of the session. Um so what it does is it makes detached ADUs a permitted use.
[2:02:47] Um, we and I think we're going to have
[2:02:49] to sit down and figure out to change our AR&Rs on how to deal with that. We
[2:02:53] had some language years a couple years
[2:02:55] ago where it allowed basement ADUs to
[2:02:57] basically be a permitted use. So, um,
[2:03:01] that's that was something we'll need to
[2:03:03] work with. And the other one is what I
[2:03:05] said before, and that is if a water
[2:03:07] provider is requiring a water exaction,
[2:03:09] which has typically been a a water
[2:03:12] dedication, you have to have a 40-year
[2:03:14] plan that I discussed before in order to
[2:03:17] do that. And you have to have that in
[2:03:18] place by January 1st, 2028. And
[2:03:21] technically, the way the bill's drafted
[2:03:22] is you have to have it we we all need to
[2:03:24] do it if you're a culinary water
[2:03:26] provider. And I do we have a a 40-year
[2:03:29] plan?
[2:03:30] >> Yeah.
[2:03:31] >> So, we already have one. we're probably
[2:03:33] in good shape. It may we may want to
[2:03:35] update that now to include the water
[2:03:37] that we're leasing to the Great Salt
[2:03:39] Lake. And there were other some some
[2:03:40] other Great Salt Lake bills that um
[2:03:44] allow for water to be like for instance
[2:03:46] if we wanted to add the Great Salt Lake
[2:03:48] as a permanent place of use for your
[2:03:51] shares. So, you know, that that's
[2:03:53] another option now. So, you wouldn't
[2:03:55] have to necessarily use it all the time.
[2:03:57] It would just be there for for leasing
[2:03:59] when it's available. So that's
[2:04:01] essentially my report unless you have
[2:04:02] any questions.
[2:04:04] >> Cool.
[2:04:04] >> Thanks, Nathan.
[2:04:07] We're all done now up there for right
[2:04:08] now.
[2:04:10] >> Yeah. Just it'll just take us another
[2:04:12] couple months to implement it all.
[2:04:14] >> This is this large amount of the most
[2:04:17] bills they
[2:04:18] >> every year is the most they have. So
[2:04:20] they broke a record last year. They had
[2:04:21] over a thousand bills this year. There was legislation by Representative
[2:04:25] Oerlin to limit the number of bills that
[2:04:27] the legislature can have, but it didn't
[2:04:29] make any progress. He's a new
[2:04:30] representative, and his argument was
[2:04:32] we're introducing so many bills, we
[2:04:34] can't review them or vet them or process
[2:04:36] them appropriately. But I I there's it's
[2:04:39] just a it's a the
[2:04:43] end of January through first week of
[2:04:45] March is just a it's a marathon.
[2:04:47] >> Were there bills they tried to pass that
[2:04:49] was out of the time limit? There was I
[2:04:53] think one bill that there's a question
[2:04:55] on that and I think they ultimately did
[2:04:57] determine that it was outside of the the
[2:05:01] time limit and that was one that
[2:05:02] Representative Tusher ran to create a
[2:05:06] process by which um
[2:05:09] people in a first class county which is
[2:05:11] basically only Salt Lake County at this
[2:05:13] point where they could divide it and I
[2:05:14] think his his motivation wasn't to force
[2:05:16] a split of Salt Lake County but to give
[2:05:18] Westside interests an ability to split
[2:05:21] with the county if they wanted to, but
[2:05:23] that I think passed just like a couple
[2:05:26] seconds after midnight. So, I I think
[2:05:28] that was one that they ultimately ruled,
[2:05:30] don't quote me, that it didn't pass in
[2:05:32] time. Um,
[2:05:33] >> you don't know if it passed or not.
[2:05:35] >> Well, I know it passed. I just think it
[2:05:37] passed right after because they're they
[2:05:39] have so many things they are working
[2:05:41] like they're moving and then midnight
[2:05:43] hits and they just got to
[2:05:45] >> the coach turns into a pumpkin and it's
[2:05:47] done. Yeah.
[2:05:48] >> Is that the one where they can make a
[2:05:50] county within the city?
[2:05:52] >> No.
[2:05:53] >> That was divided up, right?
[2:05:55] >> Yeah. Well, it was a process. What what
[2:05:57] he was trying to do is not force a
[2:05:59] split, but just say, "Hey, if if you're
[2:06:00] in a county of the first class and you
[2:06:02] think it's too big and you want a
[2:06:04] smaller county, here's the process you
[2:06:06] go through to split into two."
[2:06:08] >> How long does that process take?
[2:06:09] >> I I don't know. The bill didn't It
[2:06:12] passed, but it's not going into effect
[2:06:13] because it didn't pass it.
[2:06:14] >> It'll probably come up next year now.
[2:06:16] >> Yeah, it'll come up next year. And one
[2:06:17] of the ones that I really like the most
[2:06:19] too is the charter schools don't ain't
[2:06:22] equal with the public schools. So when
[2:06:24] the public school sells the land, they
[2:06:26] they're not equal with us. We have we um
[2:06:30] the public schools um don't have to have
[2:06:33] I mean we don't have to give the charter
[2:06:35] schools, you know, first. They follow
[2:06:38] under the city and that for whenever
[2:06:41] they're selling.
[2:06:42] >> So yeah. So that bill was so right now
[2:06:45] certain municipalities that have a
[2:06:46] population density of over 3,000 people
[2:06:49] per acre have a first right of refusal
[2:06:51] if a school district sells property
[2:06:53] within their boundaries. Magna doesn't
[2:06:56] currently meet that because your density
[2:06:58] isn't that high. But what this bill was
[2:07:00] going to do initially it was going to
[2:07:02] give um charter schools that first rural
[2:07:06] the league and and Mick and Karns Magna
[2:07:08] and others pushed back on that. Holiday
[2:07:11] and I think a couple other cities and we
[2:07:13] were able to get it to be kind of a
[2:07:14] co-equal thing for every city. So every
[2:07:17] city would have a co-equal uh approach
[2:07:20] with the charter schools regardless of
[2:07:22] population density. But then the bill
[2:07:24] ultimately didn't pass. So
[2:07:26] >> are we going to see a lot more charter
[2:07:27] schools popping up now?
[2:07:29] >> I I the state's very pro-charter
[2:07:31] schools. So I think we have and I think
[2:07:33] we will continue to see them. I don't
[2:07:35] know if you'll see them. Um,
[2:07:38] usually usually charter schools in my
[2:07:41] experience seem to be proposed by
[2:07:42] developers in places where there isn't
[2:07:44] an existing school. And so here where
[2:07:46] you already have pretty good coverage
[2:07:48] and you have a brand new school, it
[2:07:50] seems unlikely that there would be a
[2:07:51] need. But then you have concerned
[2:07:53] parents that just want to have a charter
[2:07:54] school that deals with specific things.
[2:07:56] So
[2:07:56] >> I I don't know if you'll see any in
[2:07:58] Magna, but I think you'll probably see
[2:07:59] charter schools continue to pop up
[2:08:01] throughout the state. How do they g how
[2:08:03] does how does the public gauge how full
[2:08:08] I I'm assuming if a charter school is
[2:08:10] filling up pretty fast? Of course there
[2:08:13] again gender I mean kids move on get
[2:08:16] older and then they go to high school
[2:08:17] whatever but uh how do they gauge the
[2:08:21] how crowded the the charter school
[2:08:24] becomes? I mean if it gets real crowded
[2:08:25] do that oh we better build another one
[2:08:27] or
[2:08:28] >> Well charter schools are I I'm not a
[2:08:30] charter school expert. I'll find it
[2:08:32] through. Tell me if I'm right or wrong.
[2:08:33] It's pretty much developers that are
[2:08:35] building these charter schools.
[2:08:37] >> Yeah, but not always. You know, where I
[2:08:39] live in Daybreak, you know, we've been
[2:08:40] there for almost 20 years and we were in
[2:08:43] the old section and the parents there
[2:08:44] started their own, which is still there.
[2:08:46] But I think the difference between a
[2:08:47] charter school is charter schools kind
[2:08:49] of have an admissions process. They're
[2:08:51] not required to take everybody the way a
[2:08:53] public school does, right?
[2:08:54] >> So, if you want to have your kid in a
[2:08:55] charter school and charter schools
[2:08:57] aren't aren't um service area specific.
[2:08:59] So for instance, Cypress, people that
[2:09:01] live within Cypress's service area go to
[2:09:03] that school. But if you go send your kid
[2:09:05] to a charter school, they can that
[2:09:06] charter school can be anywhere and the
[2:09:08] kid can go there. So charter schools
[2:09:10] have a little bit more of a say over how
[2:09:12] many people they accept and will control
[2:09:14] over crowd.
[2:09:16] >> I like the school district.
[2:09:17] >> You may have to even apply for charter
[2:09:19] school.
[2:09:19] >> You do have to apply to charter schools
[2:09:20] and a lot of them only have so many. So,
[2:09:22] the one I mentioned in my neighborhood,
[2:09:24] my kids never went there, but it's a
[2:09:26] pretty competitive process to get in
[2:09:28] because there a lot of people that want
[2:09:29] to go and there only so many spots each
[2:09:31] year.
[2:09:31] >> Wow.
[2:09:31] >> It it's public schools that have the
[2:09:33] overcrowding issue because they have to
[2:09:34] take everybody.
[2:09:37] >> And you know, the problem that I had
[2:09:39] about u them being equal with us. I've
[2:09:42] lived out here my whole life in Magnum.
[2:09:44] I paid school district taxes, right, for
[2:09:46] the high the old high school and
[2:09:47] everything. So why should the why should
[2:09:49] the charter still be able to come in and
[2:09:51] be able to take that school over and we we have lived out here and we've paid
[2:09:56] taxes for that school all these years.
[2:09:59] >> So I think that and and this isn't my
[2:10:01] argument but I think that where the
[2:10:03] legis where Representative Peruchi who
[2:10:05] ran that bill was thinking is that
[2:10:08] charter schools are also funded with
[2:10:09] public taxes too. um and that it's a lot
[2:10:13] cheaper if they're a public entity as
[2:10:15] well to just acquire and use an existing
[2:10:17] building rather than having to build a
[2:10:18] new one.
[2:10:20] >> So that that I think was the what they
[2:10:21] were thinking.
[2:10:24] >> Well, thank you for the update. So our
[2:10:26] next board meeting is going to be April
[2:10:28] 9th, 2026 at 10 a.m. here.
[2:10:32] Uh we are in need of a close um a close session.
[2:10:40] So if someone wants to make a motion to
[2:10:43] close the open meeting.
[2:10:45] >> Mr. Mr. Chairman, I'd like to make a
[2:10:46] motion to take a brief recess and
[2:10:49] immediately following meet and close
[2:10:51] meeting to discuss the purchase,
[2:10:53] exchange, lease of sale of real
[2:10:55] property, including any form of water
[2:10:58] right or water shares pending on
[2:11:01] reasonable, imminent litigation, and
[2:11:05] collective bargaining issues pursuant to
[2:11:07] Utah code uh 52-4-204
[2:11:11] through 205.
[2:11:13] >> I'll second that.
[2:11:14] >> Motion second. All in favor?
[2:11:15] >> I
[2:11:17] >> There's 12 in.
[2:11:20] >> Does anybody want We need a motion to
[2:11:22] someone to motion to close the close and
[2:11:24] open the open.
[2:11:26] >> I'll make a motion to close the close
[2:11:28] and reopen the public board meeting. It
[2:11:31] is 11:15.
[2:11:33] >> I'll second that.
[2:11:34] >> Motion second. All in favor?
[2:11:36] >> I
[2:11:37] >> I'd like to make a motion to immediately
[2:11:39] meet
[2:11:40] >> Oh, what's that?
[2:11:41] >> We don't We were going to have a closing
[2:11:42] personnel, but we don't need to. Okay,
[2:11:44] we're good.
[2:11:46] >> So, do you any do we have any other
[2:11:48] business that needs to come before this
[2:11:49] body or are we all good?
[2:11:52] >> Think we're good.
[2:11:53] >> Okay. Someone want to make a motion?
[2:11:57] >> I'd like to make a motion to adjurnn.
[2:11:59] >> Thank you.
[2:12:00] >> You need a second, Danny? I'll
[2:12:02] >> second it.
[2:12:02] >> Motion second. All in favor? I