1 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:06,639 All right, welcome everybody. That's that seems loud, echoey. Um, 2 00:07:04,479 --> 00:07:10,880 welcome everybody to this is a regular meeting of the Malta Town Board. It's 3 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:17,840 our agenda meeting where for the most part we discuss items that we will 4 00:07:13,199 --> 00:07:22,880 likely act on next week. Um, well, we don't have any presentations tonight. We 5 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:27,120 so we'll start our meeting with a salute to the flag. So stand if you are able 6 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:32,479 and then we'll have a moment of silent prayer. 7 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:38,000 » I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the 8 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:44,520 republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and 9 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:44,520 justice for all. 10 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:52,199 Thank you everybody. 11 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:59,280 » Um, first item on our agenda is to accept the town clerk's minutes from our 12 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:03,360 83 meeting. >> So move. 13 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:06,400 » Second. Any discussion? 14 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:08,960 All in favor? >> I 15 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:13,220 » I. Any opposed? >> Um, next we have comments from town 16 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:18,199 residents. [snorts] 17 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:18,199 step right up. 18 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:28,879 » Good evening everybody. My name is Ashley Villa and I live at 510 Nelson 19 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:32,640 Avenue Extension. Everybody probably knows my husband by now. Um my husband 20 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:37,440 and I have been coming before the board and discussing the water problems in our 21 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:40,800 neighborhood since May. Since then, this issue has continued to grow, and we now 22 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:44,480 have nearly 200 signatures from residents asking the town to support a 23 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:47,519 feasibility study to determine what it would take to bring public water to our 24 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:50,640 area. I want to give you an update on what has 25 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:54,560 happened at our own home because I think our experience demonstrates why this 26 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:58,959 study is so important. As we discussed at the last meeting, we've spent 27 00:08:56,240 --> 00:09:02,959 approximately $13,000 drilling our third well in hopes that it would finally 28 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:06,959 solve our water problems. Unfortunately, it did not. The well only produces a 29 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:10,320 half a gallon to one gallon of water per minute and the water coming out of it is 30 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:14,640 gray because of the colloidal clay. We brought our water in last time for 31 00:09:11,680 --> 00:09:18,480 everyone to see. We already have over $10,000 invested in a whole house 32 00:09:16,560 --> 00:09:22,320 reverse osmosis system because of the problems with our previous water from 33 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:26,640 our previous two wells. We have now been told that the colloidal clay in the new 34 00:09:24,399 --> 00:09:30,640 well will clog that system. So, we've received another quote for more than 35 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:35,120 $10,000 in additional treatment just to make this third well usable. But even 36 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:39,360 those numbers don't tell this entire story. When we include the equipment 37 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:43,200 that has been damaged or ruined by our water, hot water tanks, repairs, 38 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:46,320 maintenance, treatment systems, wells, and everything else we have done trying 39 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:52,399 to manage this problem over the last nine years. Our family is approaching 40 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:57,680 $100,000 in cost and we still don't have reliable water. At some point, there 41 00:09:55,279 --> 00:10:01,839 simply isn't any amount of money that an individual homeowner can keep throwing 42 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:04,800 at this problem. We can drill another well. We can install another filter. We 43 00:10:03,519 --> 00:10:07,920 can replace another piece of equipment. We can add another treatment system. But 44 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:11,360 none of those things address our underlying problem. And I don't think 45 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:15,360 that this should be viewed as an issue of property values or whether there are 46 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:18,720 high-end homes in our neighborhood that can afford these ridiculous costs 47 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:23,360 because like I said, there is no amount of money that can fix this. It does not 48 00:10:21,839 --> 00:10:27,200 matter what someone's house is worth. This is a quality of life issue. The 49 00:10:25,680 --> 00:10:31,920 stress that this has put on our family in the last nine years, I cannot begin 50 00:10:29,279 --> 00:10:38,800 to explain to you as a mother with two children, this is an ongoing thing that 51 00:10:34,959 --> 00:10:42,560 it's we need help. With that said, as my husband stated in a previous meeting, 52 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:47,680 our area supports some of the highest taxed homes in Malta. We need your help. 53 00:10:46,399 --> 00:10:50,640 People should be able to turn on their faucet and have clean, reliable water. 54 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:53,600 They should be able to take a shower, wash their clothes, cook dinner, give 55 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:56,880 their children a glass of water without worrying about whether they're well able 56 00:10:54,720 --> 00:11:00,560 to produce enough water or what's coming out of the faucet. We're not asking the 57 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:04,399 town tonight to commit to building a public water system. We understand that 58 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:08,320 there are still questions about cost and infrastructure and engineering funding 59 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:12,320 feasibility, but that's why we're asking for the feasibility study. We'd like to 60 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:16,399 get the facts. Let's determine why it's poss what is possible, what it would 61 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:19,200 cost, what funding may be available, what options exist for the residents 62 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:23,200 who've been dealing with these problems year upon year upon year. And with the 63 00:11:21,680 --> 00:11:27,440 town getting closer to its budget discussions, I think now is the time to 64 00:11:25,279 --> 00:11:31,519 ask, is funding for this feasibility study being considered in the upcoming 65 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:36,480 budget? If it is not, we would respectfully ask the board, why? And 66 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:40,480 what do you recommend that we can do next? We've been coming here since May. 67 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:43,440 Nearly 200 people have signed the petition. We've documented the problems. 68 00:11:42,079 --> 00:11:47,360 We've spoken with our neighbors. We've drilled another well. We've installed 69 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:50,160 treatment systems. We spent tens of thousands of dollars trying to solve 70 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:53,760 this ourselves. And we're doing everything we can on our end. We're 71 00:11:52,560 --> 00:11:57,279 asking the town to take the next reasonable step with us to support a 72 00:11:55,200 --> 00:12:00,880 feasibility study and help us determine whether there is a permanent solution 73 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:04,120 for our neighborhood and our neighbors. Thank you. 74 00:12:04,560 --> 00:12:10,160 » Thank you. Um, as I reply to you, I have reached 75 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:15,040 out to our water engineer and he's working on some sort of at least report 76 00:12:12,399 --> 00:12:19,760 for us to use during our our budget talks. So, hopefully I'll have something 77 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:23,680 soon. >> Well, we'll find that out shortly 78 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:31,240 because I'm going to tell you. So, very soon. Um, 79 00:12:27,279 --> 00:12:31,240 anybody else? Yes, sir. 80 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:41,760 » All right. My name is uh my name is John Traber. I live on Raleigh Road, which is 81 00:12:39,519 --> 00:12:47,120 right around the corner from those guys. Everything she said, I agree. 82 00:12:44,560 --> 00:12:50,800 Uh right down the street from me now. I mean, every time someone drills a well 83 00:12:48,639 --> 00:12:54,320 or hydroofracks, my water turns gray. I've been there for 42 years. It's run 84 00:12:52,800 --> 00:13:00,720 out completely. I can't tell you how many times. Um now they're proposing to 85 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:06,000 build four more houses down the street from me. And I have nothing against 86 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:08,560 construction or anything moving in that direction. You buy a piece of property, 87 00:13:07,680 --> 00:13:14,480 you should be able to do what you want with it. But if that those new wells are 88 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:19,120 going to obviously take care or take cause problems with mine because it does 89 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:23,760 every single time anybody drills a well around there. So I would respectfully 90 00:13:21,839 --> 00:13:27,760 ask that same thing, you know, you were just talking about um is there money 91 00:13:26,560 --> 00:13:31,200 just for I mean you did it for Multivville. At least you found out what 92 00:13:29,839 --> 00:13:35,760 could be done. I know you went a step further with them. We're just looking to 93 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:41,440 find out what could be done and which direction to go into in in with. And um 94 00:13:39,519 --> 00:13:45,839 and like I said, I mean, those houses are going to have four more wells, more, 95 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:49,839 you know, the aquifer is just terrible around here. Everyone knows that. So, uh 96 00:13:48,399 --> 00:13:52,720 just more stress on it. It's going to be wor and and what are they going to do? I 97 00:13:51,279 --> 00:13:56,320 mean, every time someone buys a piece of property around here, they can't drill a 98 00:13:54,639 --> 00:14:01,839 well or if it does, it affects your neighbor. Um, again, [clears throat] 99 00:13:59,279 --> 00:14:05,440 I've lived there for 42 years. Uh, we we've dealt with it, but uh, the more 100 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:09,120 people you put in there, it's going to get even worse. That's all I'm saying. 101 00:14:07,839 --> 00:14:12,360 All right. Thank you. >> Thank you. 102 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:18,040 » Anyone else? Public comment. 103 00:14:18,059 --> 00:14:20,079 [snorts] 104 00:14:28,959 --> 00:14:37,760 Hi, good evening. Karen Evanius, Malta Ridge. Um, I was I had a question um 105 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:41,920 regarding item number two on the discussion items tonight, the Luther 106 00:14:40,079 --> 00:14:47,760 Forest Athletic Field Lighting Capital Project. Um, the materials in tonight's 107 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:53,519 packet show a $650,000 project amount, but the August 3rd LA 108 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:58,639 Group estimate shows 1.22 22 million in construction costs. Could the board 109 00:14:56,240 --> 00:15:02,720 please clarify what the total amount of the capital project being established 110 00:15:00,959 --> 00:15:04,399 tonight is and what the funding source will be? 111 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:07,440 » Well, first of all, we're not establishing it's simply discussion. 112 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:10,079 We're not establishing any capital project and I'll explain that when we 113 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:16,959 get to that. >> Perfect budget or that item. 114 00:15:13,279 --> 00:15:21,199 » All right. Cool. Thank you. >> If I tell you now, it'll ruin all the 115 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:25,839 fun later. Karen, anybody else? 116 00:15:23,279 --> 00:15:30,320 Okay, we'll move on then to um comments from town board and department heads. I 117 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:33,760 have a few of course. Um first to remind everybody that the town offices and the 118 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:41,199 community center will be closed on Monday, September 7th for um Labor Day. 119 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:47,600 And our next town board meeting will be Monday, September 14th because of Labor 120 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:54,079 Day. So delayed a week. Um September 12th is the 37th annual Malta Community 121 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:56,560 Day at Shannetah Creek Park. Starting a little earlier this year. I believe 122 00:15:55,120 --> 00:16:02,000 we're starting at 10:00. It's scheduled for 10 to 3. Um so 123 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:06,560 pray for hope hopefully there'll be great weather and it'll be a great time. 124 00:16:03,279 --> 00:16:12,320 It's always a lot of fun. Um next up is we are going to have a series 125 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:19,759 of budget meetings coming up. There's the schedule. Um it'll start with um uh 126 00:16:16,959 --> 00:16:25,279 we'll have a budget presentation at our Monday um September 28th 127 00:16:23,279 --> 00:16:29,040 2026 meeting. I'll present the tenative budget to the board and once it's been 128 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:33,839 once it's been filed with the clerk and then we have a series of budget 129 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:39,920 discussions. Most of them the first one is 130 00:16:35,839 --> 00:16:44,560 basically the board will you know just talk in general about what's in the 131 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:49,680 budget and then we meet with um department 132 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:54,959 department heads um individually during the next budget discussions you 133 00:16:51,839 --> 00:16:59,839 we have more detailed here for us um not for profofits can come and meet with the 134 00:16:56,959 --> 00:17:05,839 board um on uh before our Monday October 5th meeting and then again We continue 135 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:10,160 on after that. Um so then you know we'll have a special meeting for a budget 136 00:17:08,079 --> 00:17:13,679 recap. What 137 00:17:10,959 --> 00:17:16,240 » water on the 14th? >> Well, it won't be about that. It'll be 138 00:17:15,679 --> 00:17:20,959 up in here. >> Oh, 139 00:17:16,959 --> 00:17:24,559 » that's just our water department. So, um so in any one of those all those 140 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:27,919 meetings will be streamed. So you'll be able to watch from the comfort of your 141 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:32,320 home. They are most of them at 8:00 in the morning. They start and they run 142 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:36,240 for, you know, about 2 hours. So, but they'll be streamed for you to be able 143 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:39,120 to watch if you can't get here. And then hopefully we will have arrived at a 144 00:17:37,679 --> 00:17:43,679 budget and we'll be able to adopt a budget on uh November 5th in a timely 145 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:47,919 fashion. Um [clears throat] on 911 for the past 146 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:53,760 couple of years, we have had a uh remembrance ceremony here at our 147 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:59,360 veterans park. Um we intend to do that again now. short ceremony, not a lot of 148 00:17:56,320 --> 00:18:04,160 hoopla. Um, start at 8:30 and we usually are finished by 9:00. So, encourage any 149 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:08,960 of the public to come and if anybody out there is interested in speaking at that, 150 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:13,600 just reach out to me and and we'll get you on the schedule. Um, last but 151 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:17,039 certainly not least, I want to take a minute to thank the Round Lake Host 152 00:18:15,360 --> 00:18:21,760 Company and the Malta Ridge Volunteer Host Company, the Saratoga County Office 153 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:27,280 of Emergency Services, and all of the other agencies that were involved in in 154 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:31,280 preventing a disaster from being even worse with the fire that we'll be 155 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:35,360 talking about later in our meeting. So, thank you to all the volunteers out 156 00:18:32,559 --> 00:18:40,320 there that that um, you know, that helped out to keep to keep everybody 157 00:18:37,679 --> 00:18:45,440 safe that night. Um, any other board members have any 158 00:18:43,360 --> 00:18:48,880 thing to bring up at this time? >> I have nothing. 159 00:18:47,679 --> 00:18:52,640 » All right, we'll move on to our discussion items then. The first time 160 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:56,400 here, I put it first because I thought somebody from the water authority was 161 00:18:53,840 --> 00:19:01,600 going to be here, but he is ill. Um, there is a project on Route 67 that is 162 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:06,320 it's kind of hard to see what that is. It's been it's a fully approved project. 163 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:13,919 It's been approved for probably almost two years now. Um it is um on the south 164 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:19,200 side of Route 67. It is three 11 unit apartment buildings. 165 00:19:17,679 --> 00:19:24,320 Um the very last thing, it's been approved for everything. The very last 166 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:27,840 thing is um we have to approve a waterline extension for Clifton Park 167 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:33,760 Water Authority. The water for the project will be serviced by by uh 168 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:38,400 Clifton Park Water Authority. So that's the last item we have. It'll be um an 169 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:42,320 action item next year. It has been approved already by the Clifton Park 170 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:46,799 Water Authority. Once we approved it, then the town of Clifton Park will have 171 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:51,440 to approve the waterline extension also. So, any questions? 172 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:52,799 » You said uh next year. Did you mean next meeting? 173 00:19:51,919 --> 00:19:56,240 » Uh next meeting. >> Okay. 174 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:59,760 » Yes. On the 14th. >> Thank you. 175 00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:05,120 » Any other comments, questions for any board members? 176 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:10,160 Cynthia, I'd just comment that certainly we can consider it at the next meeting, 177 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:17,280 but to extend the water, they're going to have to, you know, file a petition to 178 00:20:13,120 --> 00:20:22,080 to do so. Um, it's the the legal description of our area for a water 179 00:20:19,360 --> 00:20:25,440 supply district is defined. So the applicant's going to have to take steps 180 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:29,440 to provide that which >> the applicant or the water authority 181 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:33,679 » or the water authority, you know, that's the water authority more than likely is 182 00:20:31,120 --> 00:20:37,840 going to pass the buck on to them. They've started that process through 183 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:41,360 Clifton Park, but but but the owner of the property needs to 184 00:20:39,679 --> 00:20:45,520 » get additional information for the board. So 185 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:48,799 » it may or may not be ready for action. >> Okay. [clears throat] All right. Well, 186 00:20:47,120 --> 00:20:54,799 you and I talk about what's what we need tomorrow and I'll relay that to either 187 00:20:51,679 --> 00:20:57,760 planning or the water authority. >> Um 188 00:20:55,120 --> 00:21:02,320 » I have a follow-up question for Steve um or I guess Mr. Gotman. 189 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:05,440 » Uh do you know how long those would you know that process typically takes for 190 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:10,720 the the water authority or the applicant to uh to get all of that in order? 191 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:15,520 » Well, normally if the applicant is the only owner of the property, it's just 192 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:20,159 completing the the paperwork and filing it because it doesn't need consent of 193 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:25,520 any other parties. So it's, you know, preparation of legal documents that 194 00:21:22,559 --> 00:21:28,559 based upon, you know, um, submitting things like the engineering and 195 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:32,799 everything to Clifton Park, I think is already done. They just have to do a 196 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:37,440 parallel process here for us in in Malta. 197 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:41,679 » Okay. Thank you. >> Anybody else? Any questions? 198 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:44,880 » How long is that? 199 00:21:42,799 --> 00:21:50,880 » I have no idea. >> Is it the dashed line on the plans? 200 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:53,760 I I don't I I have no idea. I mean, we'll find more, but when we have the I 201 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:56,880 suppose the >> But again, that'll all be paid for not 202 00:21:55,360 --> 00:22:03,600 by the town of Malta. It'll be paid for by the applicant, by the developer, 203 00:22:01,120 --> 00:22:07,520 » at no cost to the town of Malta. >> So, everybody's clear, this is nothing 204 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:13,760 to do with Malta's water authority. This is Clifton Park Water and they have a 205 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:19,280 defined area for a water supply district that the board has approved in the past. 206 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:23,840 And if we're going to amend that, the board has to take action and that's why 207 00:22:21,360 --> 00:22:28,640 they need to submit this paperwork. But >> that water line, wherever it's extended 208 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:34,039 from and two is Clifton Park Water Authorities water line, not the towns, 209 00:22:31,039 --> 00:22:34,039 » right? 210 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:43,280 » Um, anything else? So, the next item um is to establish I'm hoping the next week 211 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:47,679 we will establish a camper project for the Luc athletic field lighting. 212 00:22:45,919 --> 00:22:55,200 Originally, I we submitted a for a um grant, a state 213 00:22:52,799 --> 00:23:01,520 and municipal grant from um the state of New York for [clears throat] $250,000. 214 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:06,240 We've been awarded that. I underestimated the cost of the paving 215 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:12,000 more than anything else. When the estimate came back from the LA group 216 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:18,159 regarding it, regarding the project, the the paving alone was $600,000. 217 00:23:15,679 --> 00:23:27,200 um mostly because the cost of asphalt has has exponentially increased over the 218 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:33,600 past year. So um I have submitted a um modification to do only the lighting of 219 00:23:30,559 --> 00:23:38,559 the field. So on the what you were looking at on the form the 1.2 we've 220 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:44,600 asked to eliminate the $600,000. So the total cost of the project instead 221 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:44,600 is $620,000. 222 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:51,919 the we'll get the $250,000 from from the state from the state municipal grant 223 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:57,360 sillies grant from Carrie Warner's office and then we the rest of the 224 00:23:55,039 --> 00:24:03,600 project will be paid for from our park reserves. We have park reserves of 225 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:09,840 $790,000. Um that and those are monies that can 226 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:13,600 only be used to make improvements to our park facilities. Can't be used for 227 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:17,679 anything else. they can't be used to pay anybody or to buy anything. It's to make 228 00:24:15,919 --> 00:24:21,600 capital improvements in our parks. They're monies that we collect from 229 00:24:19,039 --> 00:24:26,960 developers for mitigation funds and they're sitting there waiting to to be 230 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:32,456 spent. Um, I've discussed this with our with our facilities manager and with our 231 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:36,240 parks and wreck director and [clears throat] we 232 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:40,960 are comfortable that we can expend this money and not hurt ourselves with other 233 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:45,840 upgrades that we need to make in the future like playgrounds. Um, so, um, 234 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:51,679 that's what the proposal is going to be is to establish a capital project in the 235 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:57,679 amount of $620,000 to put lights on the athlet on the 236 00:24:55,120 --> 00:25:04,960 soccer field at the Luther Force Athletic Fields. 237 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:11,120 Did we ever get an accounting of the 238 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:14,000 percentage of Malta residents 239 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:20,240 from >> I mean just the just the one that we got 240 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:25,520 a while ago. I I don't I mean I mean because it's a park 241 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:31,919 it's not only for the use of Malta residents. It it's for the use of 242 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:36,400 anybody, right? But multi- taxpayers are going to be upkeeping that in the future 243 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:41,200 also. >> Correct. 244 00:25:37,120 --> 00:25:46,159 » And they'll have a contingu ongoing cost 245 00:25:43,679 --> 00:25:49,600 to maintain it. >> Correct. But 246 00:25:47,679 --> 00:25:55,600 » that's my concern that >> when I take my grandkids up to Gavin 247 00:25:51,840 --> 00:26:00,000 Park to use the um splash pad up there and the park facilities in Gavin Park, 248 00:25:58,159 --> 00:26:05,360 the town of Wilton is maintaining that park. So it's, you know, it's a give and 249 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:08,960 take everywhere. So, you know, we we can go to parks. 250 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:13,279 » When I get calls, I got to answer them. So, 251 00:26:10,799 --> 00:26:16,400 » um any other questions on that? I mean, it does open it up to being I mean, one 252 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:21,843 of the examples is and one of the reasons I support this is got fall 253 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:25,760 soccer going on. It's dark [clears throat] by 6:30, 7:00 and they 254 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:32,640 have to end their programs >> and it would allow a lot more kids to be 255 00:26:29,039 --> 00:26:35,360 able to participate in in the programs. I mean, this year they said they turned 256 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:37,200 they turned kids away and >> it would be 257 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:43,440 » think he >> if they had a winter 258 00:26:40,559 --> 00:26:48,720 » program out there also. Yeah, agreed. >> They're going to have 259 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:54,000 lights. They could have a skating program out there for a 260 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:57,360 » town of Malta could have a have an open skate for an hour. You pay five bucks, 261 00:26:56,000 --> 00:27:00,400 bring your skates, you know, a little money for the town. Might go to your 262 00:26:58,559 --> 00:27:04,080 maintenance cost. But that's that's the idea here. I mean, I see this purely as 263 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:08,000 a public improvement. It's a public park. It's open to anybody, not just 264 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:12,320 town residents, but anybody out here. And I think if we have this money and a 265 00:27:09,919 --> 00:27:16,400 park improvement fund, having, you know, one park within our community that is 266 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:21,200 capable of nighttime activity, I think is a resource, a resource and a benefit. 267 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:27,760 » I'm not disputing that. >> I'm just saying to get more you use out 268 00:27:26,159 --> 00:27:30,320 of the dollars that we're putting forward. 269 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:33,120 » Yep. Agreed. We could we can >> at a 270 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:36,720 very small cost. >> Yeah. 271 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:41,520 » Mhm. [snorts] Any other remarks from any of my fellow 272 00:27:39,279 --> 00:27:46,400 board members? So, that will be an item next week. We also will have um a 273 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:52,880 stipulation of settlement for 15 Locust Road. Our assessor has agreed to settle 274 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:57,840 a a case uh regarding that. So, we'll have that next week. 275 00:27:55,679 --> 00:28:01,840 Um the next one also is related to 276 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:10,000 assessment. The Boston Spa School District historically has assumed uh 50% 277 00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:14,559 of the cost of fighting any uh legal challenges that we have based on because 278 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:19,760 of assessments within the Boston Spa School District. We have three this 279 00:28:17,120 --> 00:28:23,760 year. And so the next item is actually an agreement between the Boston Spa 280 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:29,840 Central School District and the town of Malta for them to pay 50% of the legal 281 00:28:27,360 --> 00:28:34,799 fees for these three. um these three challenges. So, it's 282 00:28:33,120 --> 00:28:39,520 really quite a benefit for us. They've been very generous with that. 283 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:41,600 » And I'm sure everybody got their school taxes in the mail. 284 00:28:40,799 --> 00:28:46,480 » Yeah. Just today. >> Today, I'm sure you're all smiling. 285 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:52,000 » Could be worse. >> As I did as I tore the top of it off. 286 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:56,799 » Yeah. >> Any other comments on that? 287 00:28:54,640 --> 00:29:03,279 Um, another item that we'll have next week is um, we have a contract with the 288 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:08,960 um, company that we bought the audio video equipment from to help us maintain 289 00:29:06,399 --> 00:29:13,360 it that they they have on-site service, on-site training for us. So, it's 290 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:17,440 contract that we generally have renewed every year. So, hopefully the board will 291 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:22,600 agree to renew it again this year. The total contract amount is $6,400. 292 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:30,480 Everybody any comments there? All right, the next one is a little bit 293 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:39,279 complicated here to explain, but we have a graphic for you. Um, if you can see 294 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:45,279 it. So, in you, as as you may know, we recently updated all of our zoning um 295 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:50,399 our zoning code and we uh sort of discovered after the fact that there was 296 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:55,919 something that was omitted in our opinion erroneously. Um so, the area 297 00:29:54,080 --> 00:30:02,159 that is involved is in our formbbased code. It's the district called the GC3. 298 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:08,720 If you look on the furthest map to the left, um, it is where that that's that 299 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:12,480 sort of lavender color for lack of a better one. So, there's an arrow there. 300 00:30:10,159 --> 00:30:17,200 There's also some up towards the top if you can scroll up a little bit there, 301 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:23,679 Clark Forest. So, it flanks the north and south borders of of our of the of 302 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:27,600 the formbbased code of the downtown. Um what we what happened was so the 303 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:36,320 first um the the middle graphic is what was in 304 00:30:32,399 --> 00:30:43,200 the revised 2021 formbbased code. Those are uses. So that's the use table. The G 305 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:50,159 GC3 where that's highlighted there for you. If you scroll down a little bit, 306 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:56,399 you'll see that in the in the GC3 in the 2021, a convenience store with no gas 307 00:30:53,279 --> 00:31:02,279 was an allowed use. So there's a little dot there says it's allowed. If you go 308 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:02,279 to the next graphic, 309 00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:10,000 it is eliminated. So where there's no dot there in that line, 310 00:31:07,679 --> 00:31:14,960 I it was not the intention of the board to eliminate that. We never discussed 311 00:31:11,919 --> 00:31:19,200 it. We never discussed changing any uses in the GC3 312 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:24,080 um other than adding. We talked about adding uses. We never talked about 313 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:29,919 taking any uses away. So, it's been recommended by our planning staff that 314 00:31:26,159 --> 00:31:37,200 we go through the process of amending that the the zoning already to add 315 00:31:35,039 --> 00:31:40,360 convenience store as an allowed use in the GC3. 316 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:49,760 That make sense to everybody? Any discussion from anybody? The 317 00:31:46,559 --> 00:31:54,320 process, of course, it's a process. It's um we will have to have a public 318 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:58,159 hearing. It'll have to be referred to the county planning. They'll have to 319 00:31:56,320 --> 00:32:05,279 make a determination and then we'll have to adopt the local 320 00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:09,000 law to to add that use to the to the form based code zoning. 321 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:15,679 questions, comments. Jeez, I thought that'd be harder than 322 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:18,799 that. Um, 323 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:23,760 we've also talked about this at a couple meetings. The next item, um, our highway 324 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:28,720 superintendent is recommending that we update that update our water ordinance 325 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:34,799 and specifications to include a couple of items. The first one is um that he 326 00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:39,440 would like to have a meter pit installed for any service connection 2 in and 327 00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:45,440 under where the distance between the curb stop and the structure exceeds 100 328 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:49,039 ft. Mostly that's because if if there's a leak in between there, we might never 329 00:32:47,279 --> 00:32:53,120 know it. So the meter pit would give us some, 330 00:32:50,559 --> 00:32:58,159 you know, we'd be able to isolate leaks on the longer service lines. 331 00:32:56,640 --> 00:33:02,799 Um, he would like to see a shut off valve be 332 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:07,840 installed on both the inlet and outlet sides of a meter of a water meter to 333 00:33:06,159 --> 00:33:11,279 allow the water and plumbing system to be isolated for maintenance and 334 00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:18,000 replacement. Um, if the third one is if you have an 335 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:22,559 existing well and you then hook up to the water system 336 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:28,399 um that don't there will be no physical cross connection. So you can't right now 337 00:33:26,399 --> 00:33:33,279 you can have some some I don't know backflow 338 00:33:30,159 --> 00:33:38,399 metering and or system but he thinks that's inadvisable because we would 339 00:33:35,919 --> 00:33:43,760 never know if that system fails. So he wants absolutely no no cross connections 340 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:50,399 between the well system and the potable water supply and the last is to require 341 00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:55,440 pressure reducing valve requirement. I believe this is only for Maltville, 342 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:59,440 correct? The the the pressure reducing because the water is coming in at a very 343 00:33:57,519 --> 00:34:04,320 high pressure from the Saratoga County Water Authority and we have pressure 344 00:34:02,799 --> 00:34:10,320 reducing valve in the in the whole system. But if 345 00:34:07,039 --> 00:34:14,560 that one pressure reducer fails, then the pressure to the water going into the 346 00:34:12,159 --> 00:34:19,119 homes of the residents that are using the water would would cause damage. So 347 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:24,000 those are four things that he found in our standards. he thinks and our water 348 00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:32,240 engineer agrees that those are something we should uh change. Again, it requires 349 00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:38,159 you know a process that public hearing it's updating a local law so it you know 350 00:34:35,839 --> 00:34:44,560 it'll require the process. [cough] >> Yeah. I mean, some of those may be 351 00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:48,320 avoided if they're not required to change what's in the local law because 352 00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:51,599 we have a separate >> standards 353 00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:53,520 » standards that we adopted. So, I'll have to verify, 354 00:34:52,879 --> 00:34:58,800 » okay, >> which ones are changes to the local law 355 00:34:56,159 --> 00:35:00,960 and which one were just adopted by resolution of the board 356 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:03,599 » for the standards. >> Yeah. Then that would not require as 357 00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:07,599 much >> and they may all be 358 00:35:04,720 --> 00:35:12,160 » Yeah. you know, so any questions on that? 359 00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:15,680 Sean's here. Well, you but with this is a discussion with the board. So, and 360 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:20,720 you'll be able to ask that question at the end of the meeting to save it. So, 361 00:35:20,079 --> 00:35:25,599 um >> so I I have a quick question. 362 00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:30,960 » So, with these uh these meter pits, valves, you know, etc., etc., who is on 363 00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:35,200 the hook for uh paying for these installations? and would they be 364 00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:39,520 retroactively applied to already existing uh customers? 365 00:35:37,599 --> 00:35:44,560 » Um we haven't really quite settled on that. We did talk about the pressure 366 00:35:41,119 --> 00:35:49,680 reducing valve being part of the uh the charge that we have for installation. 367 00:35:46,720 --> 00:35:55,440 » Um our water superintendent would like his his people to install them 368 00:35:53,119 --> 00:36:02,480 » at at no cost to the user be part of the installation charge. So yeah, the meter 369 00:35:58,720 --> 00:36:07,599 pit would be the responsibility of the of the of the user. Um the existing 370 00:36:05,359 --> 00:36:10,000 walls doesn't, you know, it's just a thing. So 371 00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:14,240 » yeah, and the only reason I bring this up is I deal with specifications all the 372 00:36:12,240 --> 00:36:17,839 time for the DOT and I mean we have all sorts of documents on how to write these 373 00:36:16,240 --> 00:36:20,079 things and this that and the other and I don't know 374 00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:23,680 » if it's spelled out somewhere else in the water codes. It's just these kind of 375 00:36:21,839 --> 00:36:26,880 clarifications might be needed or maybe they're not. I'm not sure. But 376 00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:30,560 » it it will be at this at this point. It's just a summary of the changes he 377 00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:34,079 wants to make. The the final legislation will have more. 378 00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:37,520 » All right. Thank you very much. And thank you for going through this as well 379 00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:44,480 and looking at this and coming up with suggestions. We do appreciate that. 380 00:36:41,359 --> 00:36:53,119 » Anything else from the board? Um next item is the um state has adopted a new 381 00:36:50,079 --> 00:37:01,680 exemption. Um it's a proposed disabled veteran exemption. Um this is a 100% 382 00:36:58,079 --> 00:37:07,200 it's a it's an exemption for 100% disabled veterans. Um it is veterans 383 00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:14,480 that are permanently and totally disabled. Um and they're wartime vets 384 00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:20,160 only. So you know peace time cold war wouldn't apply. Wartime vets. Saratoga 385 00:37:17,359 --> 00:37:25,200 County is set to adopt. We're having a public hearing in two 386 00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:30,800 weeks and I expect that Saratoga County will adopt this. Just a reminder to 387 00:37:27,359 --> 00:37:36,880 everybody, we have no town tax. It does not exempt them from special districts, 388 00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:40,480 which is fire and um EMS and library. So, they wouldn't be exempt from that. 389 00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:45,920 And since we have no town tax, it doesn't really affect our our budgetary 390 00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:48,880 doesn't affect us budgetarily at all. um it would be county tax and presumably 391 00:37:47,599 --> 00:37:57,119 the school district if the school district also um adopts it. It's it's 392 00:37:54,320 --> 00:38:01,760 very you know in the packet there were several things including you know a an 393 00:38:00,240 --> 00:38:08,400 explanation from this that we got from Saratoga County and a very impassioned 394 00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:11,839 letter from the um director of the um our veterans affairs for Saratoga 395 00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:16,000 County. I I personally support it. But I think 396 00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:19,119 anything we can do especially for disabled vets is is important. So 397 00:38:18,421 --> 00:38:23,760 [clears throat] any discussion on that? 398 00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:29,599 » What's going to happen to the the veterans that aren't 100%? 399 00:38:27,119 --> 00:38:33,680 Is it going to be a percentage? >> No, it this is an exemption only for 400 00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:37,680 that. But it does not affect um the veterans exemptions that they currently 401 00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:42,320 have. So there we there are veterans exemptions in place now 402 00:38:39,599 --> 00:38:45,359 » that that they they still are available for vets. Okay. 403 00:38:43,839 --> 00:38:46,960 » This is just for >> Thank you. 404 00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:48,720 » Yeah. This is >> permanently. 405 00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:55,280 » Yeah. This is in addition to >> in addition to Exactly. 406 00:38:51,280 --> 00:39:00,640 » So, doesn't affect any other exemptions. Um here's another little interesting 407 00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:07,440 diddy. They got the bid results from the much talked about ramp on the court. As 408 00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:12,320 everybody probably knows, we've been trying to update our court building to 409 00:39:09,359 --> 00:39:18,160 make sure it's ADA compliant. Um, we got we only received one bid for replacing 410 00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:24,720 that ramp. We had appropriated about $40,000 for all the ADA compliance 411 00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:30,960 things. We have about $36,000 left. The bid amount was $148,000. 412 00:39:28,079 --> 00:39:34,320 So, considerably more than we anticipated. 413 00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:42,400 Um, I we only got the one bid. It's the the 414 00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:47,040 proposal is to remove the concrete ramp that is there now 415 00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:51,119 and build, you know, replace all the concrete sidewalks, build some steps up 416 00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:55,920 where the ramp is now, that side, and then build the ramp 417 00:39:53,280 --> 00:40:02,240 so that it would enter the porch on that end on the south side of the building to 418 00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:08,160 make sure that there's enough um length to make the gradient what it 419 00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:12,880 needs to be. Um there's a couple of other things. So we have $36,000 left 420 00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:17,040 that that we appropriated in this budget that we can use. Um the court is 421 00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:21,040 applying for what's called a JCAP grant which every year we you know we we 422 00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:25,680 usually apply for that. They are applying this year for a the JCAP is up 423 00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:31,760 to $30,000. This year they're applying to replace 424 00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:34,720 the magnetron or whatever the metal detector thing. 425 00:40:33,359 --> 00:40:40,160 um they anticipate that'll cost somewhere between5 and $6,000. So if she 426 00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:46,240 applies for the $30,000, we could have conceivably $24,000. 427 00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:51,520 It still would be requiring a $90,000 outlay that's unappropriated, but um you 428 00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:58,079 know that money would come from fund balance if if this board decides to move 429 00:40:54,079 --> 00:41:03,920 forward with that with that project. So, 430 00:41:00,720 --> 00:41:08,880 comments, questions? >> I'm assuming that's all cement 431 00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:13,280 flooring. >> Yep. It'll all be it'll all be concrete. 432 00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:14,640 Yes. Which I think that's probably part of what makes the 433 00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:18,800 » the cost >> the cost is, 434 00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:21,040 » you know, concrete. >> So, 435 00:41:19,359 --> 00:41:22,960 » yeah. And this is a compliance issue. So, 436 00:41:21,599 --> 00:41:27,839 » it it would be compliant. >> Exactly. 437 00:41:24,240 --> 00:41:31,920 So, if the board chooses to move forward with this, it we'll just accept the bid 438 00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:36,880 and our controller will advise us to move 439 00:41:34,079 --> 00:41:40,560 some money around. It's a lot of money, but like I said, it's something that's 440 00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:45,359 been talked about for quite some time. So, 441 00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:49,920 let's say to I guess reiterate Don's point, it is 442 00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:54,000 a it's a compliance issue. This issue has been brought up for for not just our 443 00:41:52,079 --> 00:41:58,960 tenure on the board, but this has been a long-standing issue over multiple u you 444 00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:01,440 know I guess sessions here or terms on the board. 445 00:41:59,920 --> 00:42:05,520 » Why don't we try and do what we can to fix it? Concrete's a good material. It 446 00:42:04,079 --> 00:42:08,720 lasts for a while, especially if it's installed correctly. 447 00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:16,079 » We might get, you know, hopefully decades worth of use out of it. 448 00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:22,240 I I would like to add uh we have talked in the past about possibly relocating 449 00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:26,000 the courts, but I assume that building would be repurposed if we did that and 450 00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:31,839 this >> uh addition would still be required. 451 00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:33,839 Yes. And so it's not wasted, so to speak. Thank you. 452 00:42:32,720 --> 00:42:38,079 » Correct. >> Exactly. It's it's just it's investing 453 00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:43,640 in the town's infrastructure. It's helping just make us more resilient 454 00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:43,640 moving forward. Any 455 00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:52,079 other comments? And we'll have that as an action item next. Uh on September 456 00:42:48,240 --> 00:42:56,880 14th, our town historian is requested to um attend the 2026 Association of Public 457 00:42:55,040 --> 00:43:04,000 Historians New York State Conference in Udica on the 28th to the 30th. So, we'll 458 00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:09,359 have a resolution to to approve that unless somebody objects to him going to 459 00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:13,760 a conference in Udica. Um >> my only comment is please go out there, 460 00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:17,240 learn a lot, bring it back, continue doing good things. 461 00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:25,680 » Um we the the um historic preservation review commission has had well 462 00:43:24,079 --> 00:43:30,560 somebody's been acting as the secretary, but she doesn't want to do it anymore. 463 00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:36,640 So one of the newer members on the HPRC um Kathy Cobri um they have selected to 464 00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:41,280 be their secretary and she's agreed. So, we'll have a resolution to appoint uh 465 00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:46,580 Kathy Cobri as the secretary to the HBRC. 466 00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:50,400 And the last um discussion item is [clears throat] the New York State 467 00:43:47,839 --> 00:43:55,920 Association of Towns is having the very first ever legislative conference. It's 468 00:43:52,960 --> 00:44:00,400 in Albany, so it doesn't require travel. Um I plan to attend the conference. 469 00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:04,400 There is um and you know, if anybody else wants to go, you know, I'll share 470 00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:10,815 that information. We have an opportunity. So at this conference, the 471 00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:17,280 New York um Association of Towns will [clears throat] meet and discuss um 472 00:44:15,119 --> 00:44:25,040 you know legislative priorities that they want to recommend that they move 473 00:44:19,839 --> 00:44:31,359 forward. And I would like that the um I would like this board to uh designate me 474 00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:37,200 as a as a voting member of that legislative committee so that we have 475 00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:40,640 some say in what sort of programs we want to put forth and advocate for for 476 00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:44,960 the to the New York State Legislature and the governor. 477 00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:50,119 Anybody have any objection? Doesn't cost anything for me to be a delegate. So, 478 00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:56,079 um, if there's no other comment, if if anybody else wants to attend the 479 00:44:54,640 --> 00:45:06,040 conference for whatever reason, just let Julia know. It's in Albany from, 480 00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:06,040 um, what's the date? I don't know. 481 00:45:06,319 --> 00:45:15,760 It's September 22nd and 23rd at the Albany Hilton. 482 00:45:13,119 --> 00:45:21,599 I won't be staying down there. So, Anything else? 483 00:45:19,359 --> 00:45:26,960 Uh, we have a few action items. Uh, the first I will um invite our senior code 484 00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:31,200 enforcement officer, Greg Berg, to present a report regarding the condition 485 00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:37,480 of the property subsequent to the fire at five West Drive. West Drive. Yeah. 486 00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:37,480 Drive. 487 00:45:38,319 --> 00:45:42,520 » That's okay. Take your time, Greg. 488 00:45:55,040 --> 00:46:06,599 Good evening board. On the 23rd of this month, Five West Drive experienced a 489 00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:06,599 devastating fire. There's nothing left. 490 00:46:07,359 --> 00:46:16,319 I'm asking on under the provisions of chapter 60 that the board consider an 491 00:46:14,079 --> 00:46:21,440 act of condemnation for the particular property as well as what's standing 492 00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:24,440 which is approximately 50% of the garage. 493 00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:35,040 Hopefully you all have some photographs of what we've seen, walked around, 494 00:46:32,240 --> 00:46:38,040 smelled, but you can't smell that from a photograph. 495 00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:47,680 Under 60-2, under lawful unlawful conditions, there 496 00:46:44,240 --> 00:46:51,599 is likewise a number of unregistered vehicles. As of today, only three. There 497 00:46:49,839 --> 00:46:59,119 were four. There's also defunct lawnmowers, 498 00:46:55,440 --> 00:47:04,400 various garden debris, there's unmodeed weeds and grasses, 499 00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:07,960 and it just is in an unkempt condition at this point. 500 00:47:10,240 --> 00:47:17,920 I ask that you consider taking a look at those photographs. It doesn't do it 501 00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:22,400 justice. If you've been there yourself, I think you can understand the scope of 502 00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:26,000 the devastation that occurred there. And please keep in mind that it is a 503 00:47:24,240 --> 00:47:32,240 neighborhood and there are neighbors in close proximity to it. 504 00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:36,960 So I ask under 60-4 procedures 505 00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:43,920 that you find that this property is worthy of condemnation and that we set 506 00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:48,640 forth a public meeting date. Thank you. 507 00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:52,880 So I believe the process is and what so everybody got a new resolution 508 00:47:51,359 --> 00:48:00,319 replacement for the resolution that had your packets that the town attorney made 509 00:47:56,160 --> 00:48:05,920 a few updates to it. Um maybe so basically the action tonight would be 510 00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:12,160 to um schedule a hearing because the the the property owner is is um entitled to 511 00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:19,440 a hearing before this board >> um before it's um for the condemnation 512 00:48:15,599 --> 00:48:23,839 process. Um I guess I want to ask you what first of all has the property been 513 00:48:22,319 --> 00:48:29,119 secured at all at this point? >> There is caution tape around it. Uh it 514 00:48:26,720 --> 00:48:34,640 was advised that that's as far as the town should go at this point. If we were 515 00:48:31,839 --> 00:48:40,880 to fence it in number one, it would be a pretty decent expenditure on the town's 516 00:48:36,720 --> 00:48:46,880 part, but it also uh exhibits ownership. We are in control of that property. I 517 00:48:44,240 --> 00:48:52,720 don't think you want that. I think that is definitely within the realm of the 518 00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:57,680 responsibility of the owner and also the insurance company in order to do that. 519 00:48:55,040 --> 00:49:03,200 So I would highly caution against that. It was likewise posted as do not occupy 520 00:49:00,559 --> 00:49:08,240 and as of today there the order of rem to remedy [snorts] was likewise posted 521 00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:11,440 on the property as well as a letter sent per law. So notifications 522 00:49:10,808 --> 00:49:17,440 [clears throat] out there and everything. So hopefully 523 00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:22,720 you know we will get some movement in that regard. I have been in touch with 524 00:49:19,839 --> 00:49:27,119 the insurance company their representative there. They sent out an 525 00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:31,440 investigator. Highly doubt that that individual is going to find a blessed 526 00:49:28,720 --> 00:49:35,280 thing because county was all over that and they didn't find anything either. It 527 00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:41,520 was inconclusive. So, origin of fire non-existent. 528 00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:45,839 So hopefully in the next few days I'll get further correspondence and we'll go 529 00:49:44,559 --> 00:49:48,160 on from there. >> But I will pass that along. 530 00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:50,720 » It would be good if the insurance company would f put a temporary fence 531 00:49:50,079 --> 00:49:54,640 around it. >> It would be it would be awesome all the 532 00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:59,760 way around. It really would. Um >> cuz it's definitely hazardous. 533 00:49:57,040 --> 00:50:04,400 » Yeah. And um quite honestly, it would be a very refreshing experience for me 534 00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:08,640 after 15 years of doing this. That probably will be the first time I've 535 00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:13,599 ever seen it anybody move that quickly. So, uh I may have a few tricks up my 536 00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:17,359 sleeve in order to move things along a little bit faster, but [snorts] 537 00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:21,920 we'll we'll cross that bridge when we get to it. 538 00:50:18,720 --> 00:50:27,680 » Greg, I have a question. We've gone to this once before recently. 539 00:50:26,079 --> 00:50:34,000 Um, rally >> and yeah, and as I 540 00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:40,079 recall, the insurance company or the homeowner did not respond to it. 541 00:50:38,240 --> 00:50:49,280 Correct. Do you see the same issue here 542 00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:54,480 long-term or do you think the insurance company will 543 00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:58,640 respond as needed? >> I think the insurance company will be a 544 00:50:56,640 --> 00:51:03,040 little bit more responsive. The difficulty in the Raleigh Road case was 545 00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:07,599 that the fire investigation team came in. 546 00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:13,839 They had um they had their dogs with them. The dogs alerted on two specific 547 00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:17,359 areas within the home which were cut out and then later analyzed and found to 548 00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:20,960 have accelerants. >> Oh, that's right. 549 00:51:18,240 --> 00:51:26,960 » Th this case here, there's nothing that's going to cause that. So, there 550 00:51:24,319 --> 00:51:33,280 was a prolonged investigation and uh there the investigation led to an 551 00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:38,400 individual that had a relationship with the owner at one point and so on so 552 00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:39,280 forth. Children probably road one. >> Mhm. 553 00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:43,839 » Right. >> So, and also [clears throat] the owner 554 00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:48,240 in this case likewise kind of got in the way a little bit too, but 555 00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:53,359 » later on after drawing her into court, >> we were able to resolve that. I don't 556 00:51:50,240 --> 00:51:55,359 foresee this being the same situation. >> That would be good. Thank you. 557 00:51:54,400 --> 00:52:00,079 » It would be very good. >> I have a question to were there any 558 00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:04,960 summons issued in this or case or anything? I mean, it looked like it 559 00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:09,680 needed some attention from somebody. I wish I could tell you why it wasn't. 560 00:52:07,599 --> 00:52:15,680 Uh, from everything that I've heard after the fact, it probably should have. 561 00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:21,119 Um, but then again, we don't have any written complaints or anything else 562 00:52:18,079 --> 00:52:26,001 having to lead back to it. So, consequently, it would be conjecture on 563 00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:29,920 my part. [snorts] 564 00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:36,400 » Well, I would just like to say I did drive by there today. It was not at all 565 00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:41,920 what I expected. I expected a damaged building. That That's horrific. No 566 00:52:39,599 --> 00:52:46,240 neighbors should be subjected to that any longer. And whatever we can do as 567 00:52:44,079 --> 00:52:52,319 quickly as possible, I'm in favor of. It's just obviously not only an eyesore, 568 00:52:50,079 --> 00:52:56,640 but unhealthy and unsafe. Yes. >> And it needs to be fixed soon. 569 00:52:54,821 --> 00:53:02,480 [clears throat] Thank you for being on top of things and helping us do that. 570 00:53:00,720 --> 00:53:07,680 Well, the first step is, like I say, we have to have a hearing. Um, there has to 571 00:53:04,559 --> 00:53:12,880 be at least some sort of reasonable time between scheduling the hearing and 572 00:53:10,720 --> 00:53:18,319 notifying the the the owner of the property that we're going to have the 573 00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:25,440 hearing so that he can respond. I, you know, that's sort of a matter of of of 574 00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:30,880 opinion. I, you know, even our town attorney doesn't really have a real 575 00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:36,960 » Well, Yeah, [clears throat] I mean it just for the board and the public, you 576 00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:41,760 know, obviously Greg's here because there's a condition in his view and he's 577 00:53:39,359 --> 00:53:45,359 given the report both here today and in writing to the board about the 578 00:53:43,599 --> 00:53:49,920 seriousness and the danger that this property poses to the public and nearby 579 00:53:48,319 --> 00:53:55,760 residents and the condition of the property. Uh, and as a board, you have 580 00:53:52,480 --> 00:54:00,480 an obligation to um to protect the community. Um, you also have to comply 581 00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:08,480 with the due process rights of the homeowner. So, the notice requirement um 582 00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:12,240 is necessary. Your job tonight would be the resolution before you and the 583 00:54:10,079 --> 00:54:15,680 changes I made were minor just to clarify that it's not just the structure 584 00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:23,040 itself, it's the condition of the property. Um but your job would be to 585 00:54:18,240 --> 00:54:28,160 accept his findings that um that um this needs immediate attention and then to 586 00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:32,559 set that hearing and give the homeowner or their representative the opportunity 587 00:54:30,559 --> 00:54:37,680 to be heard before the board before you make a final determination. So the 588 00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:42,640 notice piece, you know, is reasonable notice under our code. we have to send 589 00:54:39,839 --> 00:54:51,760 it by certified mail, return receipt requested um or by um the regular CPL R 590 00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:55,119 which could be personal service um you know and we have to notice the mortgage 591 00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:59,040 holder, the insurance company and the individual owner and then we have to 592 00:54:56,800 --> 00:55:06,319 give them a reasonable time to be able to prepare and attend a hearing. So, um, 593 00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:12,400 you know, uh, typically that's 20, well, 30 days would probably be a time, but we 594 00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:18,400 also have a dangerous condition. So, you know, the shorter you go, you know, we 595 00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:22,800 start to border on potentially concerns of due process. The longer we go, we 596 00:55:20,720 --> 00:55:28,800 obviously have a greater threat to the community. So, um, you know, I think a 597 00:55:26,559 --> 00:55:33,760 reasonable notice in this time, you know, the fire just recently occurred. 598 00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:40,319 Uh, Greg and our staff have been on top of it. Um, you know, we had to we needed 599 00:55:37,359 --> 00:55:44,720 to be mindful of the, uh, investigation, uh, the fire investigation, not to do 600 00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:49,040 anything prior to that being complete to interfere with that. Same kind of goes 601 00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:53,680 with the insurance company. So, I guess the short of it, there's a process as 602 00:55:50,799 --> 00:55:58,960 far as a hearing date goes. Um, I know we have a board meeting September 14th. 603 00:55:56,720 --> 00:56:04,720 That's kind of quick notice because by the time we 604 00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:10,960 um get them served um multiple parties and then um um have them sufficient 605 00:56:08,319 --> 00:56:15,520 time, you know, we can extend it if they object if they appear and say, "Hey, we 606 00:56:14,079 --> 00:56:21,359 need more time to prepare for this hearing." Um that's a possibility or to 607 00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:25,760 give a little bit more notice. I think um Greg's opinion on that is uh very 608 00:56:24,319 --> 00:56:32,960 valuable and the condition of the property is a great threat. Um you know 609 00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:39,760 the order before you um and and u requires that they secure the property 610 00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:44,079 that they um um remove the existing structure to the extent it's still there 611 00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:49,040 and that they remove all debris from the property. And that's the notice of the 612 00:56:46,240 --> 00:56:52,880 hearing that we're going to send. Um once we have that hearing, if you do 613 00:56:50,799 --> 00:56:58,000 find it and um they've had an opportunity to be heard, if you find it 614 00:56:54,240 --> 00:57:03,680 to be in violation of our code um or New York State fire code or property 615 00:57:00,319 --> 00:57:08,079 maintenance code, um then we have to give them a reasonable time to to cure 616 00:57:05,599 --> 00:57:13,200 it. So, you know, it's going to be an extended period of time before the site 617 00:57:10,079 --> 00:57:17,920 is cleaned up. And that's what as a board you need to be aware of is that as 618 00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:24,160 fast as we want to move, there's some legal restraints on what we can do. 619 00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:29,040 However, um one of the things in here is that we're not taking control of the 620 00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:34,720 site or ownership of the site. We're directing the homeowner and um 621 00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:42,079 responsible parties to do that. And if they fail to do that, the town may 622 00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:45,839 expend money and then pursue it um through um you know filing a lean 623 00:57:44,079 --> 00:57:50,559 against the property and collection and enforcement. That's what our code allows 624 00:57:48,559 --> 00:57:55,200 for. You know, we're certainly hopeful that there's insurance that then they've 625 00:57:52,960 --> 00:58:00,480 been engaged with Greg that that doesn't become necessary and that the factors 626 00:57:58,240 --> 00:58:04,480 that complicated Rowley Road don't appear to be present in this case. So, 627 00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:12,720 as far as when we should have that hearing, um I I think um we need to give 628 00:58:08,559 --> 00:58:18,960 that notice. Um and you know, it would the earliest I could think of would be 629 00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:24,480 that the 14th. Um anytime after that is, um you know, balancing towards the due 630 00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:28,799 process concerns. Um you know, because if we can't So, the house is gone. Um I 631 00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:33,280 don't know where he's going to get his mail. So, if he doesn't get that notice, 632 00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:35,920 he didn't, you know, then what are we going to do? There's no no structure to 633 00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:39,760 post it on. >> His mailbox is uh on the ground and I 634 00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:44,720 used his post, >> right? But I mean, under the 635 00:58:41,839 --> 00:58:49,119 circumstances, you know, is uh you know, it we have reasons to suspect that it 636 00:58:47,839 --> 00:58:53,280 might be difficult for him to get notice. I'm going to advise that the 637 00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:57,520 town clerk also published this that even though it's not a public hearing that we 638 00:58:55,200 --> 00:59:01,440 we advertise it and put post notice of it on our website and otherwise and even 639 00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:06,240 in the paper. So, >> do we have contact information? Do we 640 00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:11,119 have a phone number for him? >> That was one of the problems initially 641 00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:18,000 within that fire. They weren't able to raise him. Uh, somebody has his somebody 642 00:59:15,839 --> 00:59:22,799 does have his telephone number now that he's back down from like I believe it 643 00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:27,200 was Sarinac Lake or something. >> Oh, the investigators have it. 644 00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:29,760 » We do have the phone number. >> Okay. 645 00:59:27,599 --> 00:59:34,319 » Okay, good. We got a phone number, but again, verbal notice isn't going to be 646 00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:37,440 sufficient, you know. So, I'm just I'm not 647 00:59:35,119 --> 00:59:41,839 » I'm just pointing out the issues as a board that we have to face. So, we have 648 00:59:39,359 --> 00:59:46,240 to give reasonable notice. we have to have this hearing where they have the 649 00:59:43,839 --> 00:59:49,839 opportunity to present their side um and an opportunity to be heard on it. I 650 00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:54,240 don't you know what they're going to present on that is probably yeah we're 651 00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:58,079 going to do it. We need time and >> um and then the matters of [snorts] you 652 00:59:56,240 --> 01:00:01,599 know securing it and what needs to be done first or things that the board can 653 01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:04,559 impose at the hearing. >> I mean I would like to propose then that 654 01:00:02,960 --> 01:00:09,359 we schedule that hearing for for September 14th at 5:30 before our 655 01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:12,640 regular meeting. will make every effort to make sure that he gets the not that 656 01:00:11,200 --> 01:00:16,400 everybody gets the notification that they need within a day or two. 657 01:00:15,680 --> 01:00:23,520 » Okay. >> Um and if you know if they know the 658 01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:27,680 insurance company or the homeowner requests additional time then we can we 659 01:00:26,079 --> 01:00:32,559 can consider that then we can adjourn the hearing until 660 01:00:29,839 --> 01:00:36,079 until such time. So >> that sounds reasonable to me. 661 01:00:34,160 --> 01:00:40,559 » Is that reasonable to you? Just for my own education, when you see houses 662 01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:44,400 burning down almost every week and within 24 hours the lots are cleared. 663 01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:48,000 How does that happen? >> You I mean that I I mean I'm not aware 664 01:00:47,599 --> 01:00:51,839 of >> I don't know how it happens that fast 665 01:00:49,839 --> 01:00:56,880 » that quickly. I mean the fires the recent ones I've seen have taken some 666 01:00:53,440 --> 01:01:01,680 time. Um, you know, there was a family structure just outside of Malta, but in 667 01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:05,680 Boston that's now been rebuilt. But >> it was a long time before that was 668 01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:09,839 » the insurance companies and, you know, the mortgage companies and, 669 01:01:08,079 --> 01:01:13,520 » you know, there's [clears throat] a lot that has to get worked out before that 670 01:01:11,839 --> 01:01:18,640 happens. And that's the difficulty for the towns because 671 01:01:15,520 --> 01:01:23,040 » they're, you know, as Mr. Berg has pointed out, not only are they unsafe, 672 01:01:20,559 --> 01:01:28,000 it it's close to to a neighboring parcel. Um they're they're attractive 673 01:01:25,760 --> 01:01:34,079 nuisances, there's, you know, vermin that moves in. There's people that might 674 01:01:30,720 --> 01:01:41,760 move in. Um there's a lot that can occur in an a dangerous site. Um so, you know, 675 01:01:38,799 --> 01:01:47,200 that's why we're moving quickly to hopefully tonight accept Mr. Berg's 676 01:01:44,640 --> 01:01:51,599 findings and set this hearing and and proceed. But I don't know if that means 677 01:01:49,520 --> 01:01:55,240 the process of cleaning it up is going to be a quick process. 678 01:01:55,760 --> 01:02:02,880 » But we need to be sure we do what we need to do just to, you know, protect 679 01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:06,799 our interests also. So So does that sound like a plan for 680 01:02:04,640 --> 01:02:10,799 everybody that this resolution will be read that the town of Malta will hold a 681 01:02:08,559 --> 01:02:17,200 hearing pursuant to 60-4 the town code on the 14th day of September at 5:30 and 682 01:02:14,319 --> 01:02:20,960 then if we have to postpone it. But it, you know, we hopefully we'll reach out 683 01:02:18,799 --> 01:02:25,280 to the owner and we'll get a response. We'll mail we'll give you a notice that 684 01:02:23,440 --> 01:02:29,760 you'll um we're going to send it certified mail as required by our code, 685 01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:33,280 but we're also going to attempt to personally serve even though he's not at 686 01:02:31,520 --> 01:02:38,160 the property. He could be encouraged to come in and pick it up so he has it. If 687 01:02:35,359 --> 01:02:43,200 he doesn't, we'll post it, put it at the mailbox to the best we can and comply. 688 01:02:41,119 --> 01:02:48,000 um we have insurance information so we'll contact them and you know I'll 689 01:02:45,760 --> 01:02:52,000 have to get what I can from the county on the mortgage make sure there's no 690 01:02:49,680 --> 01:02:57,760 other owners and you know so there is some diligence we have to do uh and then 691 01:02:55,359 --> 01:03:01,000 we'll have that hearing and and we'll go from there 692 01:03:02,559 --> 01:03:08,079 » so I'll entertain a motion 693 01:03:06,640 --> 01:03:10,480 » so move >> second 694 01:03:09,200 --> 01:03:14,640 » wait You've got to have a resolution. 695 01:03:13,119 --> 01:03:17,839 » There is a resolution and it's been presided. You you all have that here 696 01:03:17,359 --> 01:03:21,119 tonight, >> right? 697 01:03:18,559 --> 01:03:26,400 » But what we need there is just to clarify in the resolution. You said it, 698 01:03:23,440 --> 01:03:31,760 but um the 14th, it's the regular board meeting at 6 p.m. That information is 699 01:03:28,960 --> 01:03:38,079 not completed in your resolution. So, um if I could get a motion to a uh first to 700 01:03:35,839 --> 01:03:41,520 and then to amend it and then to proceed with that. First, we'll have a motion to 701 01:03:39,599 --> 01:03:45,440 amend the resolution to include the language that the town of Malta will 702 01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:50,000 hold a hearing pursuant to 60 days for the town cold on the 14th day of 703 01:03:47,440 --> 01:03:53,200 September at 5:30 p.m. 704 01:03:51,520 --> 01:03:56,880 » So moved. >> Second. 705 01:03:55,039 --> 01:03:59,359 » Any discussion? All in favor? 706 01:03:58,160 --> 01:04:02,400 » I >> I'll entertain a motion on the amended 707 01:04:01,359 --> 01:04:05,039 resolution. >> So move. 708 01:04:03,680 --> 01:04:08,400 » Second >> discussion. 709 01:04:06,799 --> 01:04:13,039 All in favor? I >> I any opposed? 710 01:04:11,039 --> 01:04:16,640 » All right. And then we'll get to working tomorrow to figure out how to get the 711 01:04:14,799 --> 01:04:21,039 notification out. >> Okay. Thanks, Greg. 712 01:04:17,839 --> 01:04:30,160 » You're welcome. All right. Thank you. >> Um last two are pretty routine. Um our 713 01:04:24,960 --> 01:04:34,000 um we our our um facilities manager has um found someone he wants to hire to 714 01:04:31,760 --> 01:04:38,160 fill a vacancy. Can't 715 01:04:35,599 --> 01:04:41,680 I never know what to call you. Sorry. Uh, we had a we had an employee leave 716 01:04:40,079 --> 01:04:47,520 and he's found somebody that he wants to replace her with. Um, so I'll entertain 717 01:04:44,799 --> 01:04:50,240 a motion to accept the full-time building maintenance custodian 718 01:04:49,039 --> 01:04:52,160 appointment. >> So move. 719 01:04:51,440 --> 01:04:55,760 » Second. >> Any discussion? All in favor? 720 01:04:54,960 --> 01:05:00,400 » I. >> Any opposed? And next, our clerk has 721 01:04:58,319 --> 01:05:06,960 requested that we increase her petty cash fund from $50 to $100. 722 01:05:05,440 --> 01:05:09,680 » So moved. moved. >> Okay. Second. 723 01:05:08,240 --> 01:05:12,640 » A second. >> Any discussion? 724 01:05:11,599 --> 01:05:18,400 All in favor? >> I 725 01:05:13,039 --> 01:05:22,799 » I Any opposed? Um I am going to uh first we have additional comments. 726 01:05:21,039 --> 01:05:25,839 Yes, sir. >> Uh yeah, on your number seven. 727 01:05:24,480 --> 01:05:28,839 » Yeah, you need to come to the >> Okay. 728 01:05:30,160 --> 01:05:35,920 » Nice discussion. Item number seven, amendments to the water specifications. 729 01:05:34,240 --> 01:05:39,280 You mentioned something about a if they hooked up they had a well and hooked up 730 01:05:37,359 --> 01:05:44,559 to the water. What is all that about? >> It's that we don't want if you if you 731 01:05:42,000 --> 01:05:46,799 have an existing well and you hook up to the public water system 732 01:05:45,440 --> 01:05:51,440 » and what public water system we talking >> we don't want any cross contamination. 733 01:05:49,760 --> 01:05:54,400 The two systems need to be >> okay. What public water system are we 734 01:05:53,520 --> 01:05:57,760 speaking of right now? >> Right. You can keep your well but it 735 01:05:56,079 --> 01:06:00,079 can't be in any way connected to the public water. 736 01:05:58,559 --> 01:06:02,960 » My question is where is this public water at? 737 01:06:00,720 --> 01:06:06,079 » It's our our our water system. And we have public water. 738 01:06:04,160 --> 01:06:08,240 » We don't have public water. We need public water. We don't have it. Where 739 01:06:07,760 --> 01:06:10,559 are you talking about? >> We have a water district. 740 01:06:09,119 --> 01:06:13,280 » Yeah. But where is >> Well, we have Malta water district 741 01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:17,839 number one, which was the former Saratoga water services that the town of 742 01:06:15,119 --> 01:06:22,319 Malta bought a couple of years ago. And then we also have our Maltaville water 743 01:06:20,480 --> 01:06:26,240 district. The Malta water district number one is largely developments 744 01:06:24,480 --> 01:06:29,359 started in Luther Forest. It's all of the newer housing development. 745 01:06:27,760 --> 01:06:32,400 » But the Maltaville that came >> Maltville was a separate one. Yes. And 746 01:06:31,119 --> 01:06:37,520 you bought Luther's >> We bought water services, correct? 747 01:06:35,119 --> 01:06:42,559 » Okay. So, what made that more I mean, obviously studies on this, right, 748 01:06:40,079 --> 01:06:47,280 » to see why they needed water >> and everybody else had a well in in some 749 01:06:45,599 --> 01:06:53,039 cases. In most cases, that's not true. There's very few places in Malta Water 750 01:06:49,599 --> 01:06:57,440 District, number one, that that the existing customer has a well. Most of 751 01:06:55,440 --> 01:07:01,200 them were built, the homes were built and put on the 752 01:06:59,200 --> 01:07:07,200 public water and never had a well. But in so an example is my own house. Our 753 01:07:03,920 --> 01:07:09,839 house did not have water, but when High Point was built, they ran the water 754 01:07:08,640 --> 01:07:15,280 through our neighborhood. >> And so then I had water previously, my 755 01:07:12,880 --> 01:07:20,400 water was a well, and I had the opportunity then to hook up to municipal 756 01:07:17,039 --> 01:07:25,119 water and I did. So then we >> So the water that came to Maltville 757 01:07:22,880 --> 01:07:29,599 wasn't to existing houses. What are all which already had wells? 758 01:07:27,920 --> 01:07:33,119 » Yes, that that that is true. >> They had wells. They all had. I guess my 759 01:07:31,359 --> 01:07:37,680 question is so so you did a feasibility study for that area 760 01:07:35,440 --> 01:07:39,440 » at one point. Is that right? Is that >> did what's called a map plan report. 761 01:07:39,200 --> 01:07:42,640 Yeah. >> Did a what 762 01:07:40,640 --> 01:07:46,319 » past administrations handled that 763 01:07:44,240 --> 01:07:48,559 » but you're if I can understand your sorry Greg for a vote. 764 01:07:48,160 --> 01:07:54,920 » Yeah. >> Once it failed tried a second time and 765 01:07:51,680 --> 01:07:54,920 it passed. 766 01:07:55,440 --> 01:08:02,720 You know my question is different. >> It's different because it's very small. 767 01:07:59,200 --> 01:08:06,400 It's 37 homes. It's not You're proposing all of Malta Ridge. 768 01:08:05,359 --> 01:08:09,359 » Was 100, >> huh? 769 01:08:06,960 --> 01:08:13,119 » Only 37 homes were >> in the district. 770 01:08:10,480 --> 01:08:18,880 » It was planned for 100. >> There's only 37 homes in the Malta water 771 01:08:15,440 --> 01:08:22,400 district. 37 parcels. There's only 37 parcels in the Malta water district. 772 01:08:20,159 --> 01:08:27,839 Number one, again, prior administration, a whole different kind of scenario. So, 773 01:08:26,080 --> 01:08:30,880 » but the point is it was possible to do it once. We'll just ask. 774 01:08:29,359 --> 01:08:34,400 » You know what? I think it might be might be better served if if you have further 775 01:08:33,120 --> 01:08:38,400 questions about that. If we make an appointment and you come in and we'll 776 01:08:36,159 --> 01:08:43,040 get the maps out and I can I can show you exactly what Maltville looks like 777 01:08:41,120 --> 01:08:45,120 and and what the challenges are for you. So, 778 01:08:43,440 --> 01:08:49,440 » I just because when you said people have wells and you know, if you had a well, 779 01:08:47,040 --> 01:08:52,000 you couldn't or you had couldn't cross. We don't want to cross 780 01:08:50,239 --> 01:08:53,440 » the streams or whatever you're saying. Okay. 781 01:08:52,480 --> 01:09:02,239 » That issue. >> We don't we don't want, you know, 782 01:08:56,719 --> 01:09:05,440 the some the wellwater to mix with our, you know, our our if it's hard piped, it 783 01:09:04,880 --> 01:09:07,679 wouldn't >> not knowing what kind of contaminants 784 01:09:06,799 --> 01:09:10,319 may be in it and >> Okay. 785 01:09:08,080 --> 01:09:14,480 » Yeah. Yeah. The provision here is so where the water where the water pump is 786 01:09:12,480 --> 01:09:17,759 for our actual for the town's, you know, municipal water system. It draws water 787 01:09:16,560 --> 01:09:21,759 from somewhere. We don't want the we don't want potential backfill. So that's 788 01:09:19,359 --> 01:09:26,400 just that's safety for the water system. And your other question though is if if 789 01:09:23,920 --> 01:09:30,000 a feasibility study or whatever it was that led to that if it could be done 790 01:09:27,920 --> 01:09:32,239 there, could it be done uh up on your neighborhood? Correct. 791 01:09:30,960 --> 01:09:35,839 » What I'm asking you that's what I thought. 792 01:09:33,359 --> 01:09:45,520 » So the answer you'll have to tell me >> issues in that 793 01:09:39,359 --> 01:09:49,199 in that Malta bill district is they had to blast for exit. Um, 794 01:09:48,640 --> 01:09:57,679 » wow. >> 11 up there that five 795 01:09:53,839 --> 01:10:02,560 up there when global foundaries came in and due to some of that blasting it hurt 796 01:10:01,280 --> 01:10:04,400 their >> wells up. 797 01:10:03,120 --> 01:10:09,440 » I mean, allegedly >> they were compromised 798 01:10:06,800 --> 01:10:12,800 » from everything that I've heard [snorts] and I was part of that group to test 799 01:10:12,080 --> 01:10:15,520 that. So, >> but again, like I say, we might be 800 01:10:14,320 --> 01:10:18,480 better served if you want to come in and sit down and really 801 01:10:16,880 --> 01:10:22,480 » Yeah. Well, no, he knows exactly what my question is. Um, so yeah. All right. 802 01:10:20,560 --> 01:10:24,880 Well, I guess we'll see in the future. >> Yeah. 803 01:10:23,120 --> 01:10:30,800 » Thank you. >> Also, is um the bidding closed on that 804 01:10:28,320 --> 01:10:33,120 compliant uh ramp? >> Oh, yeah, it is. Okay. 805 01:10:31,840 --> 01:10:36,960 » Bids were due on >> a lot of money for concrete for 45 806 01:10:35,040 --> 01:10:40,719 years. That seems like a lot of money. >> It's I haven't seen it though, so I 807 01:10:39,440 --> 01:10:44,880 don't even know. But the bids are closed. It seems high and I will say 808 01:10:42,800 --> 01:10:48,159 though material costs are also high and so we shall see. 809 01:10:46,000 --> 01:10:49,520 » Yeah. Okay. Good luck with >> Thank you. 810 01:10:48,800 --> 01:10:54,159 » Thank you. >> Anybody else? 811 01:10:52,719 --> 01:10:57,440 » Yeah. Well, well, you and your neighbors both. It's okay. 812 01:10:55,520 --> 01:11:01,600 » I actually said it very well. Now, I just wanted to say uh Stefan Peltier 813 01:10:59,520 --> 01:11:05,840 Maltto, the uh one of the things that I did since many of you were not there 814 01:11:03,440 --> 01:11:09,679 when the multi program was was set is if you play on the internet a little bit, 815 01:11:07,199 --> 01:11:14,880 you can find a lot of information. So I did use AI and I made kind of a 816 01:11:11,760 --> 01:11:19,920 preliminary um study if you will comparing our situation versus the 817 01:11:16,880 --> 01:11:24,400 Maltville situation source of funding access and things of that nature. It's 818 01:11:22,080 --> 01:11:27,920 by no means it's more directional than anything but if any of you would be 819 01:11:25,840 --> 01:11:31,520 interested in seeing a copy of it it's you know it's about 10 pages long and uh 820 01:11:30,400 --> 01:11:34,400 » you have it electronically. >> I have it electronically as a PDF. 821 01:11:33,199 --> 01:11:37,679 » If you send it to me I'll forward it to the rest of the public. It's got 822 01:11:35,600 --> 01:11:41,520 interesting information and what the reason why I decided to step up is that 823 01:11:39,520 --> 01:11:46,560 one of the components of it considering the fire on Raleigh Road was one of the 824 01:11:44,320 --> 01:11:49,760 um extra benefits of having uh city water is the protection against fire as 825 01:11:48,320 --> 01:11:53,840 well. And since there's a lot of large properties on that street, it's also 826 01:11:51,760 --> 01:11:58,480 another added benefits on top of of course the essential uh drinking water. 827 01:11:55,920 --> 01:12:00,000 So uh so yeah, I'll make sure send it to me and I'll forward it to everybody 828 01:11:59,360 --> 01:12:05,600 else. Thank you. >> Thank you. 829 01:12:01,760 --> 01:12:09,840 » Anything else out there? Anybody? Talk about bad pennies. No, just 830 01:12:07,840 --> 01:12:15,120 kidding. I I I I'm happy people come. 831 01:12:14,000 --> 01:12:19,520 I'm happy you're involved and interested. 832 01:12:18,080 --> 01:12:26,640 Well, you know, I didn't come a lot before, but since April. [laughter] 833 01:12:23,440 --> 01:12:30,719 Um Karen Evanius again, Malta Ridge. Um going back to the Luther's Forest 834 01:12:28,000 --> 01:12:36,400 Athletic Field Lighting Project. Um as you said, I appreciate you going over 835 01:12:32,320 --> 01:12:41,679 it. Thank you. Um the $250,000 grant has been awarded. Um it's $620,000. 836 01:12:39,360 --> 01:12:48,159 Remaining money is 370 coming from the town park reserve. Um which you said has 837 01:12:45,040 --> 01:12:53,040 a approximate of 790,000. Um, given the town's other capital 838 01:12:50,480 --> 01:12:57,440 needs, the fact that Bolston Spa School District is also currently investing in 839 01:12:54,960 --> 01:13:00,640 athletic fields and field lighting, has the town evaluated whether there is an 840 01:12:59,280 --> 01:13:05,280 opportunity to coordinate with the school district or use existing 841 01:13:02,400 --> 01:13:10,159 facilities before committing $370,000 of park reserve funds to this project? 842 01:13:08,400 --> 01:13:16,080 And can the board explain how this project was prioritized over other 843 01:13:12,400 --> 01:13:19,120 current capital needs in the town? Thank you. 844 01:13:21,440 --> 01:13:26,800 question. >> Yeah, I you know, we haven't talked to 845 01:13:24,719 --> 01:13:31,600 the school district. This is a request, you know, and it was an improvement that 846 01:13:29,120 --> 01:13:36,159 actually was discussed by >> probably two boards ago. um you know was 847 01:13:34,560 --> 01:13:42,239 originally the project was originally proposed back in 2021 I believe 848 01:13:39,679 --> 01:13:47,920 » when we installed the softball lights >> for the [snorts] soft well and it 849 01:13:44,400 --> 01:13:51,840 included the you know if you recall one council member voted no on that because 850 01:13:49,760 --> 01:13:57,440 he wanted the whole facility to be lighted so so it's something that's been 851 01:13:54,640 --> 01:14:03,040 contemplated for quite some time. Any other comments from the public? Um, I'm 852 01:14:00,800 --> 01:14:06,719 going to ask that we go into an executive session. 853 01:14:04,320 --> 01:14:08,320 » It's just attorney client meeting. It's not 854 01:14:06,960 --> 01:14:12,480 » Oh, yeah. That's right. Sorry. And that's what I actually have on here. Um, 855 01:14:10,400 --> 01:14:19,120 that we'll go into an occurren attorney client meeting to discuss 856 01:14:15,600 --> 01:14:23,520 a possible pending uh litigation. And I will assure the public that no 857 01:14:21,840 --> 01:14:28,480 other business will be conducted tonight by this board. So, you don't have to all 858 01:14:26,800 --> 01:14:31,440 wait and see if we come back and do anything. So, 859 01:14:31,760 --> 01:14:36,960 It's not a motion to adjurnn. It's just motion to go into executive session. 860 01:14:36,400 --> 01:14:39,920 » Ajourn. >> Journ. Yeah. 861 01:14:38,080 --> 01:14:43,760 » Our attorney client is outside of the board. 862 01:14:40,239 --> 01:14:46,760 » All right. Motion to adjurnn. >> Second. 863 01:14:47,280 --> 01:14:52,159 » Two minutes. Still getting engaged. >> I need I need his contact. Jets one.