1 00:00:40,590 --> 00:00:52,490 We start the meeting every week with public comments. This is for anything that's not on the agenda. If anybody wants to speak to something that is not on the agenda, now we'll be the time to do it. 2 00:00:52,490 --> 00:00:53,890 Yes, you may. 3 00:00:59,090 --> 00:01:04,210 Good evening. My name is Joanna Conner and I'm Vice Chair of the Manchester Democratic Committee 4 00:01:04,210 --> 00:01:11,910 and with the election season coming up right after Labor Day. I have a concern about political 5 00:01:11,910 --> 00:01:19,570 signs. I've looked at the ordinances that Anita had sent and Peter had sent and there's a 6 00:01:19,570 --> 00:01:26,190 couple of them out there. One deals temporary signs and the other one deals with yard signs 7 00:01:26,190 --> 00:01:31,250 And neither one seems to deal with political temporary science. 8 00:01:31,590 --> 00:01:35,470 They're protected under a higher authority. 9 00:01:37,410 --> 00:01:38,770 A need of correct me if I'm wrong. 10 00:01:38,970 --> 00:01:43,510 We cannot regulate political campaigns, signs, 11 00:01:43,810 --> 00:01:45,910 during a part of the season, is that correct? 12 00:01:49,150 --> 00:01:49,770 Yeah. 13 00:01:54,130 --> 00:01:55,490 I mean, 14 00:01:57,510 --> 00:02:03,290 the Secretary of State's office, her website says, they have no authority to regulate these signs. 15 00:02:03,610 --> 00:02:05,770 It's up to the municipality's to do it. 16 00:02:05,770 --> 00:02:08,370 So that's from here. 17 00:02:10,470 --> 00:02:15,590 The two ordinances that I was pointed to like I say deal with sounds 18 00:02:15,590 --> 00:02:21,730 like commercial signs and not political signs because it talks about 90 days, you could have 19 00:02:21,730 --> 00:02:28,490 them up and you know, it doesn't it doesn't deal with that. So I would like to sort of come 20 00:02:28,490 --> 00:02:34,370 up with other select board or the zoning board to come up with one specific to political signs. 21 00:02:34,370 --> 00:02:45,650 Now there's public property, private property, when they go up, when they come down and those things aren't really clear in either one of these ordinances. 22 00:02:46,050 --> 00:02:46,790 That's interesting. 23 00:02:48,030 --> 00:02:56,630 Like it says two weeks, some places, and my recollection is, and I don't know where this is codified, 24 00:02:58,830 --> 00:03:04,230 that they can only be on private property that they have come down. 25 00:03:04,230 --> 00:03:09,950 the day after the election, but I don't know where that's, but there were other restrictions, 26 00:03:10,210 --> 00:03:17,230 but I don't know where I would find that in, in, in, in, in statute or ordinance. 27 00:03:17,830 --> 00:03:22,230 So, what are the previous, so I think that this is a different generation community, that's actually, 28 00:03:23,410 --> 00:03:25,130 what do you have to do over 40 years later? 29 00:03:25,830 --> 00:03:27,810 All right, all right, all right, all right, all right, all right, all right, all right, all right, all right. 30 00:03:27,810 --> 00:03:31,450 That's what we've been going on with it. 31 00:03:31,690 --> 00:03:32,650 And we've got to share. 32 00:03:32,950 --> 00:03:34,630 Maybe we've been going on with it without anything. 33 00:03:35,490 --> 00:03:37,750 But you don't just spend Scott. 34 00:03:38,210 --> 00:03:42,090 Yeah, we've actually got this item on our agenda for next meeting. 35 00:03:42,530 --> 00:03:46,430 And so the idea was that you would have all this pertinent information. 36 00:03:46,790 --> 00:03:49,250 So you could talk about it. 37 00:03:50,330 --> 00:03:56,130 But generally, they have the measures to their science and most do. 38 00:03:56,130 --> 00:04:01,770 and they say a small fee for that. I don't know what they do. And then you were right to can't be on a 39 00:04:01,770 --> 00:04:08,230 municipal property. Let's be private property. And then happily election, they had to come down the 40 00:04:08,230 --> 00:04:16,590 meal. So I don't think that's, I don't agree with that. Registring the signs we've never had to do that before. 41 00:04:16,710 --> 00:04:22,230 Yeah, I was, I don't know. It doesn't seem right. But we have, that's why I have it. It seems like to be 42 00:04:22,230 --> 00:04:25,950 business of a number of different clients, temporary science to me. 43 00:04:25,950 --> 00:04:32,010 So it was fall under the temporary sign ordinance and the fee structure and in most people pay that. 44 00:04:33,070 --> 00:04:37,250 Yeah, I think, just if we throw and stop out there and see if it sticks to the wall. 45 00:04:39,110 --> 00:04:51,130 These are very different animals than commercial for a business or something like that and I don't, I don't really like the fee. 46 00:05:03,550 --> 00:05:08,450 Yeah, we were directed to, we pay the $25 fee. 47 00:05:08,450 --> 00:05:20,810 We had to register and we had to put every location and we had to check off that we had received permission from that landowner to put that sign there. 48 00:05:20,810 --> 00:05:26,770 Now, I don't think it's why the enforce is then I talked to other candidates and they never did that. 49 00:05:26,970 --> 00:05:28,650 Yeah, I've got to come up and see. 50 00:05:29,390 --> 00:05:34,850 The way that it usually happens, especially in a grander election, where the candidates 51 00:05:34,850 --> 00:05:43,090 not uncommon to Manchester and go through all the things that you went through, it was pretty much up to the owner of the property to do it. 52 00:05:43,090 --> 00:05:48,710 And I'm not sure if they really want to pay a fee to put political signs on their property. 53 00:05:48,770 --> 00:05:50,190 It's a temporary thing. 54 00:05:50,190 --> 00:05:56,130 And it can go on public property too, it's up to you, it's up to you. 55 00:05:56,470 --> 00:06:08,070 We recently had an interesting situation here in town where there was neighborhood resistance to an application. 56 00:06:08,730 --> 00:06:20,210 It was made to the DRB relative to change of use of a property in the commercial zone and there were signs all over that neighborhood. 57 00:06:20,210 --> 00:06:30,290 I guess that particular applicant and trying to speak in general terms, but I think everybody knows what I'm talking about. 58 00:06:30,710 --> 00:06:35,230 Where I doubt highly, if any of those were registered, we confiscated several. 59 00:06:35,470 --> 00:06:38,650 Yeah, and of course there was no upcoming election. 60 00:06:39,610 --> 00:06:42,270 They couldn't really be, I mean, even though they're political and nature. 61 00:06:42,270 --> 00:06:47,990 I don't know if they have fallen in a category of political science, because that generally 62 00:06:47,990 --> 00:06:57,170 would speak to a candidate for a specific law that's being, I don't know if they're 63 00:06:57,170 --> 00:07:03,390 signs that support an act by legislature that people put on their property. 64 00:07:03,830 --> 00:07:10,390 Well, I think it goes better than that, because we also have, you know, Burm Burt and Long Trail 65 00:07:10,390 --> 00:07:17,850 without signs when people graduate. Does every person who wants to put out a sign for their kid 66 00:07:17,850 --> 00:07:22,010 proud that they will graduate? Need to pay? I don't know. So that's also going to be 67 00:07:22,010 --> 00:07:26,910 sure, too. It's like it is. But how long do they stay up? I sometimes see those up for over here. 68 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:50,400 Just to point out what the website says for the Secretary of State, it says the policy can be short and sweet. We suggest that the board consider the following. Clear statement of where on the public property, signs will be allowed, or that no signs will be allowed on public property. If the latter, you can stop right here. 69 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:51,320 Okay, that's it. 70 00:07:51,520 --> 00:08:02,640 Then a reasonable limit on the number of signs per candidate or issue, a reasonable time duration such as temporary signs can be displayed for no more than X weeks. 71 00:08:03,020 --> 00:08:04,180 And you fill in the black. 72 00:08:04,980 --> 00:08:11,980 A limitation on sign of the size of each sign in exact terms such as 2 by 3, not small. 73 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:19,040 So those are those sort of the corrects of what they're suggesting to the select words. 74 00:08:22,380 --> 00:08:28,820 So the part that's very difficult to track and regulate is, especially with candidate 75 00:08:28,820 --> 00:08:32,960 signs where somebody supports a candidate and want to push signs of their property. 76 00:08:33,100 --> 00:08:35,900 Some people feel like they need a forest of those signs on their property, 77 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:39,240 but that's not 78 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:45,360 candidate themselves, putting up that science, the landowner, and I really, and so they need 79 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:50,600 to be responsible for removing them, obviously, but again, I guess, back to the fee and the 80 00:08:51,100 --> 00:08:56,900 cracking, how many science that you're responsible for, and all that, I think that might be a little 81 00:08:56,900 --> 00:09:04,480 bit onerous. We want people to be excited about and participate in elections, and it's kind 82 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:18,040 traditional. Yeah. But we do need some sort of. Yeah. That's why. I agree with it. So so why are you 83 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:26,080 proposed? Well, it does say also that if you do allow it on public private and you have both, 84 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:32,880 they both have to have the same time friends like two weeks, everybody's two weeks. The private 85 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:42,280 properties, take it down two weeks. So what? So they have to equal rules. So I have to 86 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:45,040 wonder, okay, what they are, I just think they have to be consistent. 87 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:51,860 Well, that would mesh with members of the neighborhood being opposed to something that's happening 88 00:09:51,860 --> 00:09:59,600 and wanting to make their thoughts known. But it's over an extended period of time because 89 00:10:01,140 --> 00:10:07,980 decisions and appeals are ongoing. And I'm talking about the what 90 00:10:10,350 --> 00:10:12,910 we saw on in the area of the deep 91 00:10:12,910 --> 00:10:20,370 Oh, those jiffy wouldn't have a problem in their office of itself. 92 00:10:22,330 --> 00:10:23,830 She has an electric car. 93 00:10:26,050 --> 00:10:26,610 I 94 00:10:29,680 --> 00:10:30,680 think about it. 95 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:32,640 You only put two weeks and then you can. 96 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:35,280 And I know we're going to talk about this next. 97 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:35,740 Yeah. 98 00:10:36,020 --> 00:10:37,940 It's good to have the discussion here tonight. 99 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:45,740 I think there's also also worth noting that I think there's a general guidance that at least the political parties. 100 00:10:45,740 --> 00:11:02,100 I'll speak to have a general sense that these one of them, which is that after the election for the primary election, if you notice, there were signs up at the primary leading up to the primary and then within a day or so, they both to those signs were pulled. 101 00:11:03,460 --> 00:11:07,740 I mean, there's still obviously some houses that have followed them so often. 102 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:18,220 It's my understanding and everyone seems to have their own rule of thumb was that it was 45 days. 103 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:24,840 45 days leading up to the election and then you had 24 hours to pull them. 104 00:11:25,580 --> 00:11:33,140 And then that's why most of the signs are taken down because they would go back up middle of September. 105 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:40,500 And the other piece is that in dealing with the village, the village has also found themselves 106 00:11:40,500 --> 00:11:47,480 in the past to be extremely strict in that you needed a permit for every single location 107 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:56,300 that the science for being placed with a fee for every location, which was $25, $50 and then 108 00:11:56,300 --> 00:12:04,920 also had to have it reviewed by the DRB, which only means once a month, right? So it was 109 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:09,180 very onerous, and then there were of course people who were activists that felt like they 110 00:12:09,180 --> 00:12:15,020 should not be in the village and would go out and take them, because of the fact, but they actually 111 00:12:15,020 --> 00:12:25,800 have actually in their updated town ordinances, they have a very clear guideline, and it's I think 30 days 112 00:12:26,420 --> 00:12:32,200 like they can be up for 30 days and there's no permit fee or anything or any structure 113 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:37,180 that it's just living 30 days up to the election and then I believe there's a stipulation 114 00:12:37,180 --> 00:12:42,140 of how quickly the key to be removed and who is I got the bill actually. 115 00:12:42,900 --> 00:12:51,100 And then there's the other 1,000 area and if you don't know if you can't pay as quick enough 116 00:12:51,100 --> 00:12:56,220 I mean, you know, I mean, they've got a different set of rules, and they do. 117 00:12:56,660 --> 00:13:02,100 So, um, yeah, if we're going to consider this that our next meeting, it would be 118 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:10,040 wiser of us to kind of research what the surrounding communities are doing, including the village. 119 00:13:11,180 --> 00:13:14,100 And I think when the news is that, all right. 120 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:19,420 You know what I mean, whatever you're decision is. 121 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:20,580 Yeah, I need a. 122 00:13:22,620 --> 00:13:36,240 It's also, I felt good to keep her property signs that this category may only be displayed within 30 days of a relevant election and must be removed from the property within three days of a relevant election having to keep it. 123 00:13:37,100 --> 00:13:43,600 As a presiding officer here in Manchester, I've been with a municipality for almost 17 years. 124 00:13:44,100 --> 00:13:54,500 In those 17 years, the municipality has never allowed political signs of any sort on municipal property. 125 00:13:55,380 --> 00:14:04,000 Please be mindful on election day. We have a lot going on. If you are present at the primary election, you know, we had a little bit more excitement. 126 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:27,520 that we usually have. Please take into consideration the political environment we are currently in and also be aware of the fact that we are approaching deadlines and your decisions that you are going to make will impact white a few of our voters here in Manchester. 127 00:14:29,060 --> 00:14:34,920 with the next board meeting being September 18th, I believe, or around there. 128 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:38,260 Timeframes are getting short. 129 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:41,660 We need to keep that in mind if and when you make changes. 130 00:14:42,180 --> 00:14:46,620 Yeah, and if we can add an ordinance or a vending ordinance, 131 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:53,760 there's a waiting here and so you really would miss this. 132 00:14:53,980 --> 00:14:55,960 It would be a future elections. 133 00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:59,360 but we could certainly use this guidance and ask them, yeah, perfect. 134 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:13,880 I think we need to do this. We need to do this. We need to declare and so that people understand and it shouldn't be overly onerous because we want people to be able to participate politically and encourage people to do so. 135 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:16,720 So it's interesting, Jackie. 136 00:15:17,860 --> 00:15:19,940 I know I was hearing your recent experience. 137 00:15:20,780 --> 00:15:22,280 And you had to do it online. 138 00:15:22,740 --> 00:15:24,340 I'll be the one who didn't work. 139 00:15:26,060 --> 00:15:35,420 So finally we were here and said, um, this does not work, would you please show us, because they kept telling us what we're doing when we brought them like, oh, it doesn't work. 140 00:15:36,860 --> 00:15:43,300 So it was it was challenging at best. So finally we did a spreadsheet and gave them the spreadsheets that we go. 141 00:15:43,900 --> 00:15:46,740 But I was kind of surprised we had to do that. 142 00:15:46,820 --> 00:15:51,780 Yeah, I surprised. And again, I mean, that was some kind of a for a local elections. 143 00:15:51,780 --> 00:15:57,020 So you hear me get involved and do that, but with a state election or a federal election, 144 00:15:57,240 --> 00:15:57,660 I can't get it. 145 00:15:57,660 --> 00:15:59,760 It's not going to be involved anymore. 146 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:05,800 And there may be some member of their organization that would be, but people wouldn't have a clue. 147 00:16:05,980 --> 00:16:09,160 I mean, you know, I support this person that I want to put a sign up. 148 00:16:09,980 --> 00:16:12,660 I want them to be able to do that for a moment of time. 149 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:14,920 And I think it's nice to have a time frame. 150 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:15,300 Yeah. 151 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:16,140 I think that's important. 152 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:18,860 You know, and I'd probably have a time frame. 153 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:19,700 You did your job. 154 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:36,640 It's one of the most important things that we do is to participate in elections and we want to encourage people to do that and have a pretty vital change of ideas and thoughts. 155 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:40,280 I'll just say that one night if I touch the beast that we're doing my dad ran for his 156 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:46,720 save wrap the first time. He had signs made and he put one up for him. It was literally 157 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:56,140 on top of his sand pit on the side of Route 7. And no one could get it to take it down. So 158 00:16:56,140 --> 00:17:05,900 it's saved up there. Three or four years. That was more of a banner. That was an election 159 00:17:05,900 --> 00:17:06,540 design. 160 00:17:12,020 --> 00:17:19,200 Okay, interesting. Well, apparently it's on the agenda for our next meeting. So we will 161 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:23,800 we will be discussing this. And again, any action that we take if that meeting won't apply 162 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:25,400 to this upcoming life in any way. 163 00:17:27,940 --> 00:17:32,060 It's got to be done sometime. Any other public comments? 164 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:33,780 Anything that's not on the agenda? 165 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:42,980 Seeing none? We need to approve the minutes of August 18. 166 00:17:42,980 --> 00:17:43,800 for 167 00:17:48,050 --> 00:17:50,630 the minutes as presented of August 18th. 168 00:17:52,370 --> 00:17:56,810 Second, one second, oh, there's a, I, I, minutes are approved. 169 00:17:58,070 --> 00:18:03,690 One order of business that we have to do is to appoint our new police chief, James Blanchard, 170 00:18:03,850 --> 00:18:08,430 as talent and counsel, uh, counsel, replace the retire and chief B. J. O. 171 00:18:12,900 --> 00:18:13,620 That's correct. 172 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:18,480 Make a motion to appoint police chief, Jamie Blanchard, as the new talent and counsel. 173 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:29,400 I'll say, move the second at any of the questions, I'll pay for say aye, that's true for all dog 174 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:39,840 part of foundation request. I see dog people here, just give me number five. Oh wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute, sit 175 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:41,080 All right, 176 00:18:48,220 --> 00:19:09,820 so we talked about this at the last meeting and basically the police, the 177 00:19:09,820 --> 00:19:35,900 Board member Jonathan West is volunteered for the select board wrap. Brian Vogel has it, but I want to if a community member wrap a guy just wrong I don't I don't I don't run flin off so run flin will be the police member and so we have a we just need to appoint those people and then we can get the for trustees together for brief meeting because we do have a request. 178 00:19:36,700 --> 00:19:41,140 I would entertain a motion to that effect. 179 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:44,480 I move that way of point. 180 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:48,920 Jonathan, last round vocal and round blend. 181 00:19:50,500 --> 00:19:54,160 Yeah, as members of the police benevolent fund, 182 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:55,640 not sure if we have to appoint. 183 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:57,900 I think you just said I'm at the police chief. 184 00:19:57,920 --> 00:19:58,940 I don't think that's fine. 185 00:20:00,020 --> 00:20:00,220 Yeah. 186 00:20:00,660 --> 00:20:01,540 All we can. 187 00:20:02,260 --> 00:20:04,800 We should include the chief for police. 188 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:07,980 in the town manager in motion, I think, this way. 189 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:11,240 So we'll include Jamie Blanchard and Scott Murphy. 190 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:12,920 So those five. 191 00:20:14,780 --> 00:20:15,820 Zero second. 192 00:20:17,180 --> 00:20:17,800 Second. 193 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:19,220 Second, no need to discussion. 194 00:20:19,580 --> 00:20:20,520 All favors the eye. 195 00:20:21,300 --> 00:20:21,640 Hi. 196 00:20:22,100 --> 00:20:26,160 And that's for all, and we have a board of trustees 197 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:28,740 for the police benevolent fund. 198 00:20:29,300 --> 00:20:31,760 Now, Brian, I'm sorry. 199 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:33,680 Thank you. 200 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:46,380 So I'm here representing the die part, I'm board member, we have three of our other four board members here with us tonight, and what we're requesting is a grant to use or permission to use the land at the north end of the park. 201 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:50,400 So right now you know where the park sits and I think suited a map. 202 00:20:50,940 --> 00:20:59,040 What we would like to do is go through the remove the north fence and extend into the woods and it's the woods that go between the park and the rink. 203 00:21:00,540 --> 00:21:04,860 It's currently not being used for anything, and what we would like to do is create a walking 204 00:21:04,860 --> 00:21:09,060 power, horseshoe shaped walking path through there, similar to the paths that are up by 205 00:21:09,060 --> 00:21:10,180 Equinox Plot. 206 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:13,080 It would be fenced in so the dogs can't get out. 207 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:19,240 The idea is frequently what happens in the park is people come in the South Gate and they congregate 208 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:26,320 at the South End, and that end gets more worn, and it just happens, and so the feeling is 209 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:31,560 we create a walking path all the way at the other end that you'll get a lot better use out of the park. 210 00:21:33,220 --> 00:21:36,260 We have an estimate in there for the work, so we've done that. 211 00:21:37,340 --> 00:21:40,240 And if the board approves, granting us a land, the next step would be frost of fundraiser. 212 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:49,120 We would go no closer, the fence would be no closer to the path than it currently is. 213 00:21:49,540 --> 00:21:57,040 So I think it's either about 15 feet, where the gate is, where they bring in the lawnmower on the side on the... 214 00:21:58,120 --> 00:22:06,130 you decide so it would be at least that far from the path. So wouldn't bother anybody who's 215 00:22:06,130 --> 00:22:10,990 you know, walking or running. Scott, would you want to just make any significant 216 00:22:12,350 --> 00:22:18,810 maintenance decisions with us? Well, there is, there is an issue. The issue is that we currently 217 00:22:18,810 --> 00:22:26,970 use it and it has been for years to kind of a many, many dump and I hate to use that term. 218 00:22:27,870 --> 00:22:29,870 But we've reloaded many or dump. 219 00:22:34,710 --> 00:22:41,970 We relocate live stones, and there's excavated concrete in here. There's tree limbs, and regularly 220 00:22:41,970 --> 00:22:51,470 they use for grass footings. And most recently, when we built this flash pad, we excavated 221 00:22:51,470 --> 00:22:55,950 a nice soil, and there's a mountain of soil, and now it's not used. 222 00:22:56,310 --> 00:23:03,490 So, if you look on Brian's map, a lower map, you'll see kind of a gray area in the middle. 223 00:23:04,750 --> 00:23:07,970 That's the so-called mini dump area. 224 00:23:08,850 --> 00:23:13,350 And right now, we just, you know, it's grass kite, because we go in there with the mower. 225 00:23:14,350 --> 00:23:20,350 And there's a lot of things in it, so if they do move forward with this, there's going to 226 00:23:20,350 --> 00:23:29,550 We have to be some excavation from the contractor, and I did see Brian on his estimate for you 227 00:23:29,550 --> 00:23:36,310 that it did, there's a space for extra work, it might charge you extra for that excavation. 228 00:23:36,930 --> 00:23:45,450 The other question would be, would the town be willing to move that since it's been used as a town dump plan? 229 00:23:45,450 --> 00:23:52,310 I know there used to be more stuff there when John was here and a lot of it was, we had 230 00:23:52,310 --> 00:23:56,570 talked to him about the idea and so a lot of the stuff was moved when they built a new equipment 231 00:23:56,570 --> 00:24:03,430 shed over by the gun, the gun called, I don't know if it's by, I'll be using the new yesterday and 232 00:24:03,430 --> 00:24:11,650 it's still quite a bit of extended concrete, large folders, those type of things. 233 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:26,280 So being a nonprofit on a shoe string budget, we would certainly appreciate and part of our charter with the town is that we don't ask the town for money. 234 00:24:27,420 --> 00:24:34,320 So if the town will be willing to help out, if you grant us the land, the town will be willing to help move some of that stuff. 235 00:24:34,500 --> 00:24:39,700 We would certainly appreciate it because 24,000 is going to be a big nut for us to swallow as it is. 236 00:24:39,700 --> 00:24:47,700 I guess I would have to see it or get some kind of an estimate as to how much material is there. 237 00:24:49,460 --> 00:24:56,980 That we had dumped over the years and where we might move it to in the case of the top soil. 238 00:24:57,180 --> 00:25:04,240 We have no other place on the site, all the acreage is grass cut. There's no more woods, 239 00:25:06,860 --> 00:25:09,700 which make a compost pile for this stuff. 240 00:25:09,700 --> 00:25:15,360 But I mean, this tire is in there, you know, we shouldn't be doing that anyway. 241 00:25:15,820 --> 00:25:20,640 No, it's not a lot of this stuff, but some of the stuff that's been there for decades. 242 00:25:28,500 --> 00:25:35,240 And then where do we go after this next time we get large stuff that we want to reduce some site, 243 00:25:35,260 --> 00:25:36,600 where we put that stuff. 244 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:40,120 It's all. 245 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:46,860 I would like some, this is kind of a unforeseen circumstance. 246 00:25:52,220 --> 00:25:56,400 And I'm going to have to look at that personally, I think, just to get into some kind of 247 00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:59,280 ideas on what we're talking about. 248 00:25:59,420 --> 00:26:03,160 I think in general terms, I think it's a great idea. 249 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:12,980 We're not a host, the idea, I think it's a great idea to good presentation too, but what do we 250 00:26:12,980 --> 00:26:17,460 do with the stuff that's there and what do the next time we have stuff that's supposed 251 00:26:17,460 --> 00:26:24,420 that might use in the fall. The stuff that's there, that was all generated on site and demolition 252 00:26:24,420 --> 00:26:29,900 on. Yeah, it wasn't brought on. It wasn't brought into the air. I think there's to be some like 253 00:26:29,900 --> 00:26:36,420 old swing equipment, like higher swing or something like that. Yeah. Why is the stuff that's there? 254 00:26:36,620 --> 00:26:40,260 The trend for you, or is it, does it all have to go with, I don't know. 255 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:50,340 Is it a deterrent to constructing the park or is it all of it can be there, can you visually see it, is it? 256 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:56,460 You can see it. Some of it can stay there. Once it's finished in, it will be hard to remove. 257 00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:59,940 Right. It will be hard to add to. 258 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:08,560 Well I feel like organic matter should be fine, but if it's, you know, tires and old equipment, it shouldn't be there anyway. 259 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:09,840 I mean, that's not a break. 260 00:27:10,620 --> 00:27:11,120 Well, I don't know. 261 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:14,500 There wasn't any old equipment, but there was tires. 262 00:27:14,500 --> 00:27:20,240 A few tires, not a lot of tires, but there's, you know, the concrete that had been removed 263 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:20,860 from somewhere. 264 00:27:21,020 --> 00:27:28,240 And then there was a big, like concrete ballards, it must have been somewhere at some point. 265 00:27:29,220 --> 00:27:32,820 These are large, heavy pieces that 266 00:27:36,460 --> 00:27:38,780 they're, yeah, they're, those ballards must have 267 00:27:38,780 --> 00:27:42,040 and some other configuration, probably flyer that, 268 00:27:42,120 --> 00:27:45,200 but yeah, I think it probably goes that the way it's. 269 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:47,560 Actually, I was just thinking, yeah, I don't know. 270 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:49,480 I spent a while since I went out there too, 271 00:27:49,580 --> 00:27:51,320 but that I actually think I've seen 272 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:53,540 in other parts where they've actually mounted, 273 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:56,800 like a mouse in the middle of the park, 274 00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:58,680 to actually let the, 275 00:27:58,680 --> 00:27:59,660 because it's pretty flat. 276 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:02,240 Oh, okay. 277 00:28:02,620 --> 00:28:04,200 So, you know, just, 278 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:06,880 not, I'm not saying very in the tires, 279 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:12,090 if the property and what's there could be, 280 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:19,620 yeah, as to utilize this fill over and press over it. 281 00:28:19,620 --> 00:28:21,140 Can't see it, it's not fair. 282 00:28:22,500 --> 00:28:22,960 I mean, 283 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:27,440 I think that. 284 00:28:27,500 --> 00:28:30,280 Well, I can get some pictures for you. 285 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:32,580 Yeah, this is near and you can stop. 286 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:36,860 I'll go through the rest of the rest of prior to moving forward with this. 287 00:28:37,100 --> 00:28:41,320 what's your projected time table if it's the one you'd like to get this down? 288 00:28:41,780 --> 00:28:47,180 As soon as we could raise the money, so a couple months before we beat even the 289 00:28:47,180 --> 00:28:49,940 ready to start, and then it's a question of whether they want to start in the winner or 290 00:28:49,940 --> 00:28:52,720 wait until spring because it's a ground will be hard. 291 00:28:56,430 --> 00:28:57,690 When do you think? 292 00:28:58,270 --> 00:29:01,410 That should make me sense when you think you need it. 293 00:29:04,420 --> 00:29:07,080 But it's going to take us a little while and raise the money. 294 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:10,800 Yeah. So, it probably wouldn't be until springtime. That's suspect. 295 00:29:15,790 --> 00:29:17,570 Yeah, we need answers to a few 296 00:29:17,570 --> 00:29:24,470 break before we do this. I would say the one, the one issue is we don't want to move ahead 297 00:29:24,470 --> 00:29:32,010 fundraising if we can't do the project. That's it. We'll take a little field trip over there, 298 00:29:32,050 --> 00:29:32,810 check it out. 299 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:47,440 Nice presentation. Any time we don't have a page or it's it's a good project. 300 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:49,600 But 301 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:53,840 now live a component that we may have to do. 302 00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:55,200 Fuck. 303 00:29:58,790 --> 00:29:59,490 Let's get anything. 304 00:30:01,460 --> 00:30:05,520 Green Mountain of States. Oh, this is the capital. Yeah. 305 00:30:07,700 --> 00:30:09,520 Well, yes, Scott, why don't you? 306 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:14,660 I last year you had mentioned that you wanted to follow up on this at the end of the fifth 307 00:30:14,660 --> 00:30:18,260 year. I think this was good times any. 308 00:30:19,700 --> 00:30:26,620 And you have in your packets, the proceeds from the green mountain sale, green mountain sale, 309 00:30:26,620 --> 00:30:30,780 And it shows him how to receive and the expenses to date. 310 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:35,040 Because that's a balance of over 592,000. 311 00:30:36,380 --> 00:30:41,020 And then we talked to the others during the course of the last year 312 00:30:41,620 --> 00:30:47,340 about setting up a restricted use fund because they indicated 313 00:30:47,340 --> 00:30:50,460 that there was going to be no more additional funds received 314 00:30:50,460 --> 00:30:52,820 from the acquisition, which is true. 315 00:30:53,420 --> 00:30:55,460 Board could set up a restricted use fund. 316 00:30:55,460 --> 00:31:00,800 But they also noted that, you know, it may not be desired to do that, 317 00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:04,640 because it's part of the upkeep and maintenance of the roads and kill it. 318 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:12,160 And so if you restrict this map, this amount into a capital or restrict the capital 319 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:16,600 fund, you can only use it for that particular use. 320 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:17,540 Yeah. 321 00:31:37,500 --> 00:31:42,300 So basically, we're trying to just think about whether because these funds came from a specific 322 00:31:42,300 --> 00:31:47,840 thing should they be restricted to maintaining that specific thing or if it should just people in general 323 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:51,700 a lot keep up. Rose Rose, you tell it's right. Next angle. 324 00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:58,620 And the, it 325 00:32:02,140 --> 00:32:04,020 was a restricted capital account 326 00:32:04,020 --> 00:32:17,880 that was set up as as a part of the settlement of all the legal issues. As I understand, I mean, 327 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:26,860 the capital fund itself was created through that process and the figure that was attacked 328 00:32:26,860 --> 00:32:27,680 to it. 329 00:32:27,980 --> 00:32:28,820 It started out. 330 00:32:30,220 --> 00:32:31,760 Oh, that was part of the sale agreement. 331 00:32:33,020 --> 00:32:37,840 So there was, I think, dedicated funds towards legal on their side. 332 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:38,240 Right. 333 00:32:39,780 --> 00:32:44,080 And as it turned out, we didn't spend all those. 334 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:47,300 I think it might have been 800,000 and now there's 500,000 left or something. 335 00:32:47,300 --> 00:33:01,720 It's along that line. Yeah, but I mean, but I mean, we've made our spend that amount of money in my life time. 336 00:33:01,820 --> 00:33:07,760 I'm angry not in the States, but even assuming that a little hard time. 337 00:33:12,460 --> 00:33:17,580 And, well, now we went from the road though, too, the times and the infrastructure, so 338 00:33:18,420 --> 00:33:24,040 it's kind of, it actually limits us because if there's another thing that is more urgent 339 00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:31,040 and we can't access, or we don't, I don't know, I kind of feel like the reason for the restriction 340 00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:38,080 was to get past the settlement. And so now that that's done and that we aren't the road in the sewer. 341 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:43,720 Right. We should have it should be part of that, you know, general fund. 342 00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:47,780 Unless we should want to reserve a little bit in case there's 343 00:33:49,380 --> 00:33:54,380 I mean, like you said, are the town roads and there's also there ever 344 00:33:54,380 --> 00:33:58,160 possibly anything else comes back up that we have to spend money on. 345 00:33:58,160 --> 00:33:58,680 Well, they're good. 346 00:33:59,040 --> 00:33:59,260 Yeah. 347 00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:00,740 I mean, they're supposed to be. 348 00:34:01,780 --> 00:34:02,720 I'm going. 349 00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:05,840 No. 350 00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:07,340 I think they're good bookrooms. 351 00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:08,980 I mean, they're good also. 352 00:34:09,540 --> 00:34:10,180 They're good also. 353 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:17,400 I think they're also the general, you know, understanding that the HASIS in general for that development 354 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:25,580 was to provide affordable housing options for the community at the time and that area is a 355 00:34:25,580 --> 00:34:30,100 plan growth area and there's opportunities for growth there and utilizing 356 00:34:30,100 --> 00:34:36,040 that potentially expand. You know, if we restricted, we wouldn't be able to say, okay, 357 00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:38,920 but we can't apply this to a potential project that might be... 358 00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:46,340 Pick a story. Yeah. One of Jeff Williams's biggest fear was another flood that would 359 00:34:46,340 --> 00:34:52,820 that would undercut to pay, and would have to repave it at some point. 360 00:34:52,820 --> 00:34:59,900 and get you that. And that cost was about 137,000 just for the, I even pinched it. 361 00:35:00,060 --> 00:35:05,160 But then we still would have this money. Yes, it's like, you know, so it's not really like it's. Yeah. 362 00:35:05,540 --> 00:35:12,180 You know, we would mentally know that the money exists. I think you'd be handcuffing yourself if you did. 363 00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:16,340 Yeah, I feel like there's a flexibility that this should probably 364 00:35:16,340 --> 00:35:24,680 sir. Maybe, sir. Um, if it goes into, sir. Um, 365 00:35:24,720 --> 00:35:28,460 then it's fire, it's fire, it's more approval to. What other 366 00:35:28,460 --> 00:35:32,060 options do we have? I mean, general funding, but then I don't 367 00:35:32,060 --> 00:35:35,200 love that either. Right, either. Do we have it? I mean, do we have a 368 00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:39,120 general, another general capital account? Well, Mike says it's 369 00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:43,280 technically in it's all an account right now. So even though it's 370 00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:46,860 And then we can't even find it keeps it in the same or technically restrictions off. 371 00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:48,100 Well, there's no restriction on. 372 00:35:48,420 --> 00:35:51,500 We have, we just, we put it as a dedicated fund there. 373 00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:56,980 So, what if we just leave it there and don't have restrictions on it and make decisions 374 00:35:56,980 --> 00:36:04,400 on utilizing it, as needed, but I mean, or we should put it, we should be dedicated toward 375 00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:18,560 I mean, it shouldn't be for the wreck park or that sort of thing. I mean, it was originally 376 00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:24,860 full of debris and a dog bark. What's that? Is that going to add to ourselves, you know? 377 00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:36,760 But it was the expectation was going to be for expenditures and upgrades to roads and that sort of thing. 378 00:36:37,020 --> 00:36:39,920 And it should be used for that just expanded beyond greed. 379 00:36:40,300 --> 00:36:41,420 For the town. 380 00:36:42,660 --> 00:36:44,220 So can we do something along? 381 00:36:44,460 --> 00:36:45,560 Do we have to do anything? 382 00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:46,340 Because it's no. 383 00:36:46,500 --> 00:36:46,820 No. 384 00:36:46,820 --> 00:36:47,420 We don't have. 385 00:36:47,420 --> 00:36:50,360 And maybe I'll ask the others, 386 00:36:51,060 --> 00:36:53,500 what they recommend as far as it's like to. 387 00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:58,260 I mean, it's in in the count now that it's on, 388 00:36:58,400 --> 00:36:59,600 but it's under the general fund. 389 00:36:59,900 --> 00:37:02,420 We could call it a special infrastructure fund or something. 390 00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:06,460 I mean, there's one thing I think about that's, 391 00:37:06,460 --> 00:37:09,320 but this would be a separate, it's a separate entity, 392 00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:12,160 but I mean, at the upgrading of the water meters, 393 00:37:13,240 --> 00:37:15,100 for all of the homes in that. 394 00:37:16,140 --> 00:37:21,800 We can't, we can't, we can't, we can't, we can't, we can't, we can't, we can't, let's try it Terry's fun. 395 00:37:23,100 --> 00:37:28,900 So when they set it up, we really set it up to the airmark what that money was to be used for. 396 00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:29,960 This. 397 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:40,540 The mail agreement said to be used for the upkeep and maintenance of the green amount of states. That was, that was the sales agreement. 398 00:37:41,240 --> 00:37:41,260 Okay. 399 00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:42,960 One second. 400 00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:43,780 One second. 401 00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:56,220 There were expectations for expenditures that didn't materialize in the transfer of the property. 402 00:37:56,220 --> 00:38:05,480 I mean, so, so I'll keep making those for roles and sewer and sewer, the sewer was a big 403 00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:05,740 concept. 404 00:38:05,740 --> 00:38:11,740 We just like spell about like that, this is a fun dedicated to, you know, the thing is if it's 405 00:38:11,740 --> 00:38:17,720 in a general fund, it really shouldn't go toward sewer because that's a separate enterprise. 406 00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:25,160 It's right, but prior to the sale or as part of the sale, we had to upgrade the sewer 407 00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:27,700 that money did come from that. 408 00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:30,000 And this is the remaining stuff. 409 00:38:30,020 --> 00:38:31,100 But that was one of the items 410 00:38:31,100 --> 00:38:33,000 that came in under what the project was, 411 00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:33,620 what the project was. 412 00:38:33,620 --> 00:38:35,100 If I were to just grab, yeah. 413 00:38:35,100 --> 00:38:36,300 I'm a word that we have to replace 414 00:38:36,300 --> 00:38:38,140 a lot of the infrastructure in there for sewer. 415 00:38:38,380 --> 00:38:40,220 So I think that we got, 416 00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:42,760 so this was an account that could be accessed 417 00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:50,060 for water, sewer, and public worse, 418 00:38:50,820 --> 00:38:51,680 of the town. 419 00:38:52,300 --> 00:38:53,860 It's an interesting animal. 420 00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:59,280 Because those are three separate entities. 421 00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:00,120 Correct. 422 00:39:02,380 --> 00:39:04,980 But that's maybe what's unique about it, is that? 423 00:39:04,980 --> 00:39:05,500 Oh, it is. 424 00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:08,740 Maybe that maybe that's what we don't want to mess with. 425 00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:11,420 It gives us some flexibility if we get, you know, 426 00:39:11,500 --> 00:39:12,960 we have a main break or something. 427 00:39:13,180 --> 00:39:13,500 I'm not. 428 00:39:14,060 --> 00:39:18,820 So who controls how that one is spent or allocated? 429 00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:23,260 Because even though we are the board of sewer commissioners, 430 00:39:23,260 --> 00:39:24,980 it's not a select board. 431 00:39:24,980 --> 00:39:27,260 It's the same people, but it's a different board. 432 00:39:27,860 --> 00:39:30,900 And the water board is, we had a former member sitting right here. 433 00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:33,100 Maybe this one is a bigger sector. 434 00:39:33,220 --> 00:39:37,340 Maybe this record decides if they want to allocate it to a smaller water. 435 00:39:38,700 --> 00:39:40,820 So the second record, and an ultimate control. 436 00:39:42,300 --> 00:39:43,320 I mean, nobody had it. 437 00:39:44,620 --> 00:39:46,760 Otherwise it's going to be a lot of. 438 00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:48,200 I think he's doing now. 439 00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:48,960 Oh, yeah. 440 00:39:49,140 --> 00:39:49,620 It's fire. 441 00:39:49,660 --> 00:39:50,220 Yeah, we do. 442 00:39:50,460 --> 00:39:51,380 Yeah, we do. 443 00:39:51,540 --> 00:39:53,140 But yeah, already have control over it. 444 00:39:53,140 --> 00:40:00,360 So let's just codify I have a control rate if we need it for emergency sewer water situations 445 00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:04,460 that we feel benefit the entire time. 446 00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:10,300 In order to set up a restricted juice fund you need to vote a pool also so that would 447 00:40:10,300 --> 00:40:13,600 have to happen to be in a meeting if you wanted to go to that. 448 00:40:14,540 --> 00:40:15,920 I don't think we want to restart them. 449 00:40:16,260 --> 00:40:17,840 No, I'm just saying yes. 450 00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:20,360 say no. 451 00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:21,920 Yeah. 452 00:40:22,620 --> 00:40:24,620 I'm just going to do it from the microphone. 453 00:40:25,260 --> 00:40:27,720 So people watching by Zoom can hear you. 454 00:40:27,740 --> 00:40:28,520 Mr. Chairman. 455 00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:33,500 This is town have a capital account. 456 00:40:34,020 --> 00:40:44,280 Well, no, I'm just thinking that if you if you took the money and and and divide it up and put into a capital, maybe some water, some sewer. 457 00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:48,840 Um, roads or whatever, but capital, so if you have an emergency, like you say, if you're 458 00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:49,120 one of those. 459 00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:57,260 The water department, the sewer, the water company, the sewer company, both have capital accounts, 460 00:40:58,220 --> 00:41:03,380 which are replenished largely through connection fees for both. 461 00:41:03,860 --> 00:41:09,340 The, the town has a number of capital accounts, the biggest one being the surf fund, which 462 00:41:09,340 --> 00:41:14,400 was the old U-Dag fund, and we changed the name of that, because the 463 00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:18,740 U-Dag went away, but there used to be title 1 restrictions on that. 464 00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:26,060 They've been removed, but when we set that up, it was, we set that up so that voters, they 465 00:41:26,060 --> 00:41:29,540 had to go to the voters to suspend any money out of the circle. 466 00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:33,740 The way this one set up, we probably wouldn't have that opportunity. 467 00:41:34,860 --> 00:41:36,600 The way it is right now that we don't. 468 00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:44,460 What's correct? I think good. I mean, I don't think that any of us are looking to, but I think it gives us flexibility of things come up. That is a 469 00:41:45,100 --> 00:41:47,800 And that if the select board maintains 470 00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:55,080 Control of it, that you know, we can, if there's an emergency sewer situation or a water situation, we can have it. 471 00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:57,020 But we have 472 00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:00,880 How many capital accounts? I mean, there's there's a lot. 473 00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:07,800 You do. I mean, but they're usually dedicated, right? Sorry. The highway one. We have police equipment, fire equipment. 474 00:42:08,720 --> 00:42:15,980 I think we should. I mean, I don't it doesn't it if it costs us 25 dollars a year and count these. So have it open like it's worth it. Just to keep it. 475 00:42:16,720 --> 00:42:18,560 This one should be. 476 00:42:21,060 --> 00:42:23,880 Reserve capital reserve account for. 477 00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:30,680 In case it works or related, and when I say public works, I mean, water and sewer also. 478 00:42:31,860 --> 00:42:36,940 So if it's a total amount of the control of the selectable. 479 00:42:37,140 --> 00:42:39,600 All right, but to establish, I could make capital zeros. 480 00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:42,100 We need to get the voter approval for that. 481 00:42:42,260 --> 00:42:44,640 Then we have to fund it. 482 00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:45,740 So usually two questions. 483 00:42:45,980 --> 00:42:47,520 Do you want to establish this fund? 484 00:42:47,740 --> 00:42:50,880 Do you want to put 500,000 towards it? 485 00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:52,680 Can we just title the account and not? 486 00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:58,680 We can, that's what we have right now, it's titles, it's an end of, is that what you're 487 00:42:58,680 --> 00:42:59,340 ever been saying for us? 488 00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:05,440 You're a recommending sky at this point, yes, and then we can, we can make amendments 489 00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:06,200 if we need to. 490 00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:09,420 And maybe we can talk about it again during the budget scene. 491 00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:10,740 Yes, that's it. 492 00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:10,960 Yeah. 493 00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:16,240 I think it's good that we revisit this because going in the expectation, there wasn't 494 00:43:16,240 --> 00:43:21,140 the expectation that there would be this kind of, but in the past, you know, that's 495 00:43:21,140 --> 00:43:27,160 that we put like we do on all of the capital accounts for we list them that this would be listed 496 00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:35,220 with some title. So that we, so we don't lose it and it wasn't blended like it is right there. 497 00:43:35,220 --> 00:43:39,120 As after two years, it doesn't show up on town or poor anymore, right? 498 00:43:40,340 --> 00:43:41,500 It's sort of 499 00:43:43,830 --> 00:43:45,010 okay. Any thoughts, Kathy? 500 00:43:47,250 --> 00:43:51,750 Oh, I thought it seems to me that we were just, you know, changed the name of it. So there's this thing 501 00:43:51,750 --> 00:43:51,990 low and say hey. 502 00:43:52,010 --> 00:43:52,530 Tma tournament is right. 503 00:43:53,670 --> 00:43:54,570 Tma Tma. 504 00:43:58,060 --> 00:43:58,360 TMA. 505 00:43:58,880 --> 00:43:59,320 TMA. 506 00:43:59,320 --> 00:43:59,820 TMA. 507 00:43:59,860 --> 00:44:00,200 TMA. 508 00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:00,580 TMA. 509 00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:01,680 TMA. 510 00:44:07,190 --> 00:44:07,790 TMA. 511 00:44:07,790 --> 00:44:08,090 TMA. 512 00:44:10,090 --> 00:44:10,310 TMA. 513 00:44:10,330 --> 00:44:10,510 TMA. 514 00:44:11,230 --> 00:44:20,230 of the last that to drop the speed limit from 30 miles an hour and 25 miles an hour on three maple 515 00:44:20,230 --> 00:44:21,230 be right. 516 00:44:22,410 --> 00:44:30,650 The reason for that is there's a lot more people in the neighborhood now, wide away, three 517 00:44:30,650 --> 00:44:32,070 maple drive. 518 00:44:33,010 --> 00:44:34,450 What's the speed limit on, wide away? 519 00:44:34,770 --> 00:44:59,570 And everybody's 25 and Mack Hill on the door society at Manchester's 25 and it's not, and again, it's, it's not that we have a lot of speeders on the road, it's just I feel it 30 miles an hour for people to walk in a small road like that is too fast and then walk live they walk their dogs horses 520 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:09,080 However, and it's, you know, the officers were there a couple of times a day, they'll cruise around. It's not, and it's not really a speeding issue. 521 00:45:11,100 --> 00:45:29,680 It's just the speed that it is at as 30 and we haven't down here. I mean, who's seven, we're down to 35 now. And it's a wide, you know, black top row. And I actually say, you know, when I go up and down three maple there's a lot more people walking their dogs and just out. 522 00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:40,220 The few forces, there are a lot of people walk up to the force of combat down, but the horse farm on Bear Town Road and walk back to their cars at the, at the pew, pull off there. 523 00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:57,000 It's not likely that remapable drive is used as a through path to get from somewhere to somewhere else. I mean, nobody's going to say, well, I'll take, for example, drive to get to door sets, even though you could. 524 00:45:57,700 --> 00:46:00,300 I have to have people live on through and able to ask. 525 00:46:04,860 --> 00:46:11,320 Do you think generally the people that live there would be in favor of lowering the speed on that? 526 00:46:11,820 --> 00:46:16,120 I've had a lot of people that did sign up, but just for it. 527 00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:27,780 I don't think the first part of why I like where I am is paved, and it's 25. 528 00:46:27,780 --> 00:46:35,020 Yeah, and when I pull up through maple on my on my map, it says 40 too. 529 00:46:36,180 --> 00:46:39,180 Some of the dirt roads to say 50 because that's I don't see them in 50. 530 00:46:39,740 --> 00:46:41,360 State, you want it on dirt roads to say 50. 531 00:46:42,220 --> 00:46:53,240 Unless it's otherwise, but I think when I went up, if you go north shore, when, when hill up there, 532 00:46:53,240 --> 00:46:59,360 I think that's 25 as well, some place 25 and goes to 38. I think when you get out farther toward on 533 00:47:00,220 --> 00:47:05,420 North Carolina with a line in sir, but when he signs or on there that we'd have to replace 534 00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:08,200 I think there's 535 00:47:10,580 --> 00:47:15,960 One the I know I push is one at the end of wide awake when you take a left and I think there's one 536 00:47:17,100 --> 00:47:21,040 When you're coming down Mackill or coming up Mackill towards 537 00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:29,660 three maple is one two. I think there's maybe four four signs. I think I'm 538 00:47:29,660 --> 00:47:35,400 trees twenty five actually. I'm thirty twenty five out there, rode up. That's 539 00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:38,980 really well with this thirty and it's again it's not like they're going fifty 540 00:47:38,980 --> 00:47:46,160 down there but you know thirty is thirty one thirty two thirty three it's not thirty 541 00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:52,300 And if I think it was 25, I think it would just help people slow down a bit, bunch. 542 00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:58,980 Not to, I thought it was 25, too, but according to Google Maps, 543 00:47:59,260 --> 00:48:00,740 Wind Hill is actually 30. 544 00:48:01,580 --> 00:48:06,020 But I think Wind Hill is slightly different in its makeup. 545 00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:07,340 A lot of liar. 546 00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:11,140 Well, if you, there's a 25-month speed limit out there. 547 00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:12,880 So I can't remember if it was when you hit north. 548 00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:22,880 I think the first part of it, going up the hill off a north road and then it goes to 25, I know there is a 25 because I drove down to the other day, I feel talked to you about that. 549 00:48:23,720 --> 00:48:24,280 That's what's over. 550 00:48:25,660 --> 00:48:30,760 Sorry, I was heading next. I'm driving the whole road on Google Maps here. 551 00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:33,880 But again, I don't think as many people walk up there. 552 00:48:34,340 --> 00:48:35,860 I don't know, I mean, I don't know. 553 00:48:35,860 --> 00:48:36,620 I've got that much. 554 00:48:36,620 --> 00:48:44,040 they don't watch a lot of people. I think most of people part along North Road walk up and down 555 00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:45,440 North Road actually. 556 00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:51,460 No, there's a lot of deaths. The real trail, they broke the real 557 00:48:51,460 --> 00:48:58,780 trail walk down the. I just say, but I do see like wind hill, even as it was 30, wind hill 558 00:49:00,100 --> 00:49:07,640 has in much straighter path. It has like, you know, you come through North Road. Like no one turns, 559 00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:13,760 like you said, no one turns on the three maple or macrimerat to get to their neck 560 00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:23,400 that's a major faster faster, but wind hill, I mean, I've seen that happen, not so much 561 00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:23,860 on overload. 562 00:49:24,180 --> 00:49:31,760 Yeah, I mean, I will take wind hill to get to other places depending on where I'm going. 563 00:49:32,240 --> 00:49:37,480 I used to, if I was taken, vangy to the doors at school, we'd usually take the help. 564 00:49:40,260 --> 00:49:41,720 I'm here to see others. 565 00:49:41,940 --> 00:49:42,200 Could be used. 566 00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:43,780 I would do 25 at the top here. 567 00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:45,620 Very good. 568 00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:45,840 See? 569 00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:47,260 It's not the door. 570 00:49:48,060 --> 00:49:48,420 Not the door. 571 00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:50,680 It's not. 572 00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:50,880 Yeah. 573 00:49:51,180 --> 00:49:51,640 I'm not there. 574 00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:53,340 Okay. 575 00:49:53,700 --> 00:49:56,160 I don't have a strong feeling about it. 576 00:49:56,220 --> 00:49:56,700 We're going to do the other. 577 00:49:57,180 --> 00:50:03,420 But the people who there should have the ultimate say because I don't think it really 578 00:50:03,420 --> 00:50:06,320 affects anybody else. 579 00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:10,120 as a travel do we hear it. I think it's very exciting. 580 00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:13,640 And at least I see the police chief didn't have any issues. 581 00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:20,820 Now the process still last time was that we had to keep one of us. 582 00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:25,240 We do. We put it on the next meeting. We'd have a draft. 583 00:50:26,780 --> 00:50:33,680 Fordness change. We'd adopt it. And then we have to put a public notice out. 584 00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:48,360 We have to have an affected day to 60 days after it's adopted, and then there's, of course, 45 days for a petition to be filed, and we'll become affected that in 60 days, if there's no petition. 585 00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:58,620 to a new, probably told us that on Mac, and is a 30 or 25. 586 00:50:59,060 --> 00:51:02,200 On on, when it becomes Mac, when it becomes Mac, when it becomes. 587 00:51:03,220 --> 00:51:03,780 25. 588 00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:04,580 25. 589 00:51:05,380 --> 00:51:06,040 You're certain. 590 00:51:06,340 --> 00:51:06,820 I'll do. 591 00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:07,960 The answer to the question. 592 00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:09,280 You can go over the 30. 593 00:51:11,540 --> 00:51:14,500 And also, when Hill, it appears that, you know, 594 00:51:14,780 --> 00:51:18,280 when Hill takes a pretty steep incline up to it. 595 00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:23,960 the zucker area. And then when it starts to flatten out is when it drops to 25. 596 00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:28,620 You need a little moment. 597 00:51:31,700 --> 00:51:36,700 So if we start the process for this, we got a schedule of 598 00:51:36,700 --> 00:51:41,520 theory. Yeah. And we can do that next blackboard main if we want to. 599 00:51:45,610 --> 00:51:47,810 So what you're saying is 600 00:51:47,810 --> 00:51:52,990 We could have hearing our next crap if he's got a look today 601 00:51:57,770 --> 00:52:06,450 Can we see in the petition not that I don't believe what's up you have we see the petition. That's been signed by a bunch of people 602 00:52:06,450 --> 00:52:08,930 Okay, who the petition you bring out with you? 603 00:52:09,050 --> 00:52:13,090 Yeah, but it was it's an older one. I didn't get into the truth spot 604 00:52:13,850 --> 00:52:15,450 Okay, people know 605 00:52:16,830 --> 00:52:18,510 Oh no man's bad soul 606 00:52:19,570 --> 00:52:24,740 I think I'll ever bring a flash for David's filming. 607 00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:28,080 Boyd, Bell City, Jimmy Barr. 608 00:52:28,500 --> 00:52:29,980 Oh, Jean Barr, you know. 609 00:52:30,430 --> 00:52:32,050 Campbell, Campbell, 610 00:52:34,220 --> 00:52:48,460 prison, oday, prison cell, vote, paying, billaree, o, lard, that's like, that's like, it'd be mostly private minutes. 611 00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:59,640 Yeah. Well, I think it's pretty much all three. I mean, there were so many people on, why do I, I didn't get all those signatures, but, you know, pretty much everybody on, why do I, like, 612 00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:02,400 that was, you know, this was from three years. 613 00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:03,960 Yes, you know, 614 00:53:06,240 --> 00:53:08,820 pretty complete, but it's good, okay, right? 615 00:53:09,020 --> 00:53:09,760 And it's, well, 616 00:53:13,240 --> 00:53:14,750 we also got them at terms of all of those. 617 00:53:16,860 --> 00:53:19,840 Well, again, for years ago, there weren't as, there weren't 618 00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:23,280 taking any people up there, so here's a, here's a, there's two house 619 00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:28,080 to pass mine now, there's a, a lot more full-time residents up there, 620 00:53:28,340 --> 00:53:33,380 too, there's the, it's all, a lot more, you know, second one more, there's a lot 621 00:53:33,380 --> 00:53:37,040 people go into the barn too. What's that? A lot of people go into the barn for right. 622 00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:42,900 Yeah, you know, that's true. Well, the two barns, you got the new barn at the, at the end 623 00:53:42,900 --> 00:53:48,480 there by very kind of, then you've got the, you find, first, you find places where a lot of people 624 00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:59,500 go into. Yeah. Yeah. All right, cool. We will, we need a motion to have a hearing at our next 625 00:53:59,500 --> 00:54:14,200 I moved to set a, oh gosh, I got it ahead myself on that one. I moved to set a public hearing for the set number 15's to review the speed limit. 626 00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:17,640 Proquest speed limit change for remable drive. 627 00:54:20,980 --> 00:54:23,100 Okay, so I can a further discussion. 628 00:54:24,380 --> 00:54:24,780 I'll take a say. 629 00:54:25,380 --> 00:54:25,940 Okay. 630 00:54:27,220 --> 00:54:29,540 Did we have to put a time on that? 631 00:54:29,540 --> 00:54:34,140 Oh, at seven, at seven, at seven, at seven. Yeah. Yeah. 632 00:54:34,720 --> 00:54:36,940 I'm sure we do it correct. I don't see something. 633 00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:44,800 Tell me how many of your updates. 634 00:54:46,740 --> 00:54:50,880 You'll see that little email. I want to hear about item number C. 635 00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:52,370 I don't want to get to the end. 636 00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:54,820 Get to the end. 637 00:54:54,820 --> 00:54:56,460 Aaron Donner, I'll be. 638 00:54:57,400 --> 00:54:57,800 You're running. 639 00:54:58,700 --> 00:55:03,900 So the horizon did not appeal within the time. 640 00:55:03,900 --> 00:55:14,920 If I would say the proposed location at the Riley Rink, I'll not go forward there, and so that's finalized. 641 00:55:15,220 --> 00:55:16,740 I just thought we had to know that. 642 00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:20,220 Pretty controversial back when we were dealing with it originally. 643 00:55:21,940 --> 00:55:27,540 The Born Brook project, which we've been spending some money on, 644 00:55:29,140 --> 00:55:37,240 needs additional work done. I think you have that in your package. It will have a great 645 00:55:37,240 --> 00:55:43,140 to move forward and access to the approved budget that you had set aside for this funding. 646 00:55:43,220 --> 00:55:44,720 You're not a grant for that, didn't we? 647 00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:52,100 We do. Well, I say we've been approved by the state to be submitted to FEMA and now it's 648 00:55:52,100 --> 00:56:01,180 team of sales in the state is working with the teamer to get us approved and the state to 649 00:56:01,180 --> 00:56:06,940 really excited if this ever happens because there has many done like this throughout the state. 650 00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:13,160 So the state's really wants this to exceed and just as a reminder, the project includes the 651 00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:17,580 excavation approximately five acres of floodplain with cut depths 652 00:56:17,580 --> 00:56:23,320 there in between a flood and seven feet averaging two feet. Removal of an existing 653 00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:29,940 berm and a creation of flood sheets within the cut floodplain. That would require of course 654 00:56:29,940 --> 00:56:38,380 removal of trees and vegetation and there'll be some bell trees and re-vegetation 655 00:56:38,380 --> 00:56:44,040 the native shrubs and grasses. So anyways, we're moving forward with that. I just thought you'd be 656 00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:49,120 it should be aware of that. They kind of anticipate this happening anyways. 657 00:56:51,240 --> 00:56:53,300 And so we've given the 658 00:56:53,300 --> 00:57:07,820 OK and to contract now is at the 145,000. I mean, this is awesome. If this happens and it looks like we're 659 00:57:07,820 --> 00:57:08,480 thing 660 00:57:12,770 --> 00:57:20,850 that we could do to address flooding in the future, and so allow the water to spread out and not from rushing down, 661 00:57:21,310 --> 00:57:30,110 all of us into that, and it should be, it should be a lasting improvement to the flooding situation there. 662 00:57:30,790 --> 00:57:37,750 I mean, I understand that it could, there could be sediment over time, it should have a lasting effect. 663 00:57:37,750 --> 00:57:49,030 And if it goes well above the budget, we have a chunk of money for buildings that would be involved with it. 664 00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:55,100 So, anyway, see. 665 00:57:56,080 --> 00:58:02,580 So, there's been a couple of major complaints about barriers in the downtown dumpsters. 666 00:58:02,580 --> 00:58:07,900 So it's just, this is a minor for people to try to, try to, they approve the dumpsters. 667 00:58:08,500 --> 00:58:14,060 This is, especially important for restaurants and businesses at deal with food, 668 00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:18,640 because the, the two that we've had specifically were food related. 669 00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:26,020 I know there's been a lot of articles in the paper, the media about the bear population, 670 00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:31,280 but now they're getting comfortable in the food source and downtown. 671 00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:36,160 Well, my brother just, you know, within the last week sent me a picture that he took 672 00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:39,680 of my mother's house, which is right on the end of Mount Beterra, straight in the smack 673 00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:44,200 in the middle of town, right next to you, going out to terrace with the motherbearance 674 00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:50,820 freecubs, it comes climb the trees, the mother instructed them because my brother went out 675 00:58:50,820 --> 00:58:55,540 to take a picture and she made a noise in all three thoughts, ran up a tree and when he left 676 00:58:55,540 --> 00:58:58,440 she made another noise and they all came back down and followed her and I said, boy, I wish 677 00:58:58,440 --> 00:59:04,000 I've got my kids doing that well and they were little and you're right that they're they're 678 00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:09,000 also become kids you know two years ago or three years ago they would come to our house and 679 00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:14,320 you just go outside and make a small noise and they would disobey. Now you can walk right up to them 680 00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:20,660 and they're they'd look at you like you're nuts. I might be but maple street bears get into their 681 00:59:20,660 --> 00:59:24,040 dumps. I was doing middle school day. Yeah it's happening during the day too. 682 00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:33,970 You know, I like to see them, but they there's were here before we were and you know, 683 00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:42,260 part of the problem is the will in this area, the money's mountain, all there was a huge 684 00:59:42,260 --> 00:59:50,560 bare population up there because of the lack of forestry management up there, you can't touch 685 00:59:50,560 --> 00:59:55,740 they just let it go. It's all mature for us now. That's not a habitat for bears. They can't 686 00:59:55,740 --> 00:59:59,960 survive. So they've come down off the mountain because we have a man. 687 01:00:02,340 --> 01:00:06,560 That's one of the side effects. The deer have done the same thing. There's not as many deer 688 01:00:06,560 --> 01:00:11,100 out there as they're used to be. There's no feed bar. It's all matured bar. 689 01:00:11,840 --> 01:00:15,900 Well, if they know where the food is in town. Yeah, I mean, you ought to go to a restaurant. 690 01:00:16,300 --> 01:00:22,360 To me, had this, might say, but do we have specifications for what we should be doing with dumpsters 691 01:00:22,360 --> 01:00:28,740 for companies? Well, when we get complaints, Heidi, especially the food industry, we 692 01:00:29,320 --> 01:00:33,880 And notify them, and then we tell them, you know, one of the ways to solve the problems 693 01:00:33,880 --> 01:00:40,600 the bit, I prove, you dumpster, which a lot of these aren't, you know, and so that's 694 01:00:40,600 --> 01:00:41,540 the next move. 695 01:00:42,320 --> 01:00:48,280 We have, it's not really enforceable that much, but it becomes a help as it could make 696 01:00:48,280 --> 01:00:50,760 some, like, is there, can you do that? 697 01:00:50,760 --> 01:00:51,060 Can you do that? 698 01:00:51,160 --> 01:00:51,680 Can you do that? 699 01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:54,900 using Clue that is part of the permit. 700 01:00:55,380 --> 01:00:57,360 Having a deal with that, I don't know, regular basis. 701 01:00:57,660 --> 01:00:59,500 Okay, okay, okay, okay. 702 01:00:59,800 --> 01:01:02,560 What status does this need your adult students, 703 01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:04,600 but don't substitute you? 704 01:01:04,720 --> 01:01:06,700 But you're not allowed to do it retroactively 705 01:01:06,700 --> 01:01:08,100 to existing businesses? 706 01:01:09,900 --> 01:01:09,960 That. 707 01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:10,660 It does says that. 708 01:01:11,300 --> 01:01:11,660 That. 709 01:01:12,140 --> 01:01:15,420 I mean, such a pain, you know, 710 01:01:15,480 --> 01:01:17,420 what's a tab to clean about every, 711 01:01:17,560 --> 01:01:18,220 you see, oh, yeah. 712 01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:18,640 Right. 713 01:01:19,020 --> 01:01:21,640 In these business owners, they want. 714 01:01:22,360 --> 01:01:27,020 the bears to go away. They want to solve the problems. So they're willing to work. You just 715 01:01:27,020 --> 01:01:32,640 have to get on them a little bit and then they work towards it. Usually. 716 01:01:33,840 --> 01:01:41,480 Now, the option is selling the bear pick cans. I, uh, worse than this. Get them. And it actually 717 01:01:41,480 --> 01:01:47,520 worked for the first day. I had it out. It, it's, it there was literally on top of it, didn't do anything. 718 01:01:47,520 --> 01:01:58,400 And before I talk about financial savings, just to find a line of public that the property taxes are doing this Friday. 719 01:01:59,900 --> 01:02:06,920 Fourth, it's been a steady stream of taxpayers coming in through the doors this week. 720 01:02:07,520 --> 01:02:13,660 Most with smiles on their faces. That's good. Not all unrelated to the taxes. 721 01:02:14,120 --> 01:02:15,520 Yeah, I haven't come in yet. 722 01:02:19,960 --> 01:02:26,260 So you have a, in your package, the financial savings that have promised you month now. 723 01:02:26,480 --> 01:02:29,980 This month is not much to talk about only because it's the first month. 724 01:02:30,920 --> 01:02:36,480 But this will give you an idea of what we're looking at each month. 725 01:02:36,600 --> 01:02:38,520 And there's three different sections. 726 01:02:38,700 --> 01:02:39,700 Of course, you get the general fund. 727 01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:41,820 You've got water and you've got sewer. 728 01:02:43,380 --> 01:02:49,160 I'll just call you attention briefly to one of them, which is the in the high rate of 729 01:02:50,300 --> 01:02:50,740 poverty. 730 01:02:51,880 --> 01:02:59,490 Oh, yeah, a page four, well, I'm on 51st, and next month you'll have a better idea because 731 01:02:59,490 --> 01:03:03,630 you'll have, you'll have, you'll have two months under it fell, but so the line 1, 51, you'll 732 01:03:03,630 --> 01:03:09,110 see that's, that's winter sand and salt, right, so there's actually a lot more spent 733 01:03:09,110 --> 01:03:14,110 than the 86-68 right now, but that was through July 31st, 734 01:03:14,490 --> 01:03:17,350 but that's a kind of loaded thing. 735 01:03:17,890 --> 01:03:20,630 So we bulk that up before the winter starts. 736 01:03:21,150 --> 01:03:25,550 So that'll be percentage-wise, that'll be spent well 737 01:03:26,130 --> 01:03:27,890 before the end of the year. 738 01:03:28,410 --> 01:03:30,010 And that's just one of the things that's not just 739 01:03:30,010 --> 01:03:33,050 a level spending type of budget item. 740 01:03:33,530 --> 01:03:36,350 Just to be able to open a rate stabilizer, 741 01:03:36,350 --> 01:03:44,250 these still as difficult this was last year. We were lucky in Jeff had a couple of little 742 01:03:44,250 --> 01:03:49,770 sources. So we didn't run into problems with that and we just got an email today from 743 01:03:49,770 --> 01:03:58,070 DLCT about we were one of 30 towns that are eligible to join the state contract. 744 01:03:59,350 --> 01:04:03,910 And so we're going to look into that next couple of days. 745 01:04:04,130 --> 01:04:08,050 Last year, we were cheaper than the state contract. 746 01:04:08,230 --> 01:04:09,610 The sources we had. 747 01:04:09,850 --> 01:04:11,690 It's directly low sources here. 748 01:04:12,130 --> 01:04:12,150 Yeah. 749 01:04:13,370 --> 01:04:14,770 And there's still friendly. 750 01:04:14,970 --> 01:04:17,270 I believe so. 751 01:04:18,430 --> 01:04:20,050 Not just rubble over the track. 752 01:04:20,330 --> 01:04:21,610 Thank you for your answers. 753 01:04:21,610 --> 01:04:27,530 And so I mean, I also in addition to being the last night, the taxes do is our last feet best. 754 01:04:27,750 --> 01:04:33,310 I'll hopefully the weather will just fade and walk right when you guys can join us on Main Street. 755 01:04:35,210 --> 01:04:42,470 I also just wanted to make note that we're going to be having something at the town green on 25th anniversary of 9.11. 756 01:04:42,770 --> 01:04:42,830 How much? 757 01:04:45,190 --> 01:04:46,630 Starting at 10 a.m. 758 01:04:53,570 --> 01:04:54,890 Yeah, there are days, stuff. 759 01:04:55,550 --> 01:04:56,290 That's it. 760 01:04:56,290 --> 01:05:02,030 are there any is there any other business here at the table we do have an 761 01:05:02,030 --> 01:05:10,170 executive session planned regarding contracts and also I'd like to add to 762 01:05:10,170 --> 01:05:20,990 that personal issue nothing make terrible nothing negative but something that 763 01:05:20,990 --> 01:05:22,490 to be discussed in executive session. 764 01:05:25,570 --> 01:05:29,370 So when we have a motion to go into executive session, 765 01:05:29,590 --> 01:05:31,230 it could actually include those two items 766 01:05:31,230 --> 01:05:35,790 and it should include scar in the executive session. 767 01:05:35,790 --> 01:05:37,890 I just think it's a move. 768 01:05:38,830 --> 01:05:41,250 OK, and the brain is going to go over 769 01:05:41,250 --> 01:05:43,370 which we've been down, and it's a bit difficult to do that. 770 01:05:48,560 --> 01:05:49,460 That's what he's got. 771 01:05:51,340 --> 01:05:53,560 So do we have the motion recorded? 772 01:05:54,800 --> 01:05:56,080 And this is actually taking. 773 01:05:56,080 --> 01:05:58,020 Well, I didn't do it. 774 01:05:58,020 --> 01:05:58,140 Yeah. 775 01:05:59,840 --> 01:06:00,320 So, 776 01:06:04,250 --> 01:06:08,250 and you have that covered that is for two, two different items. 777 01:06:08,410 --> 01:06:09,850 I mean, it's on the contract. 778 01:06:10,190 --> 01:06:10,730 One meeting. 779 01:06:12,070 --> 01:06:12,650 First now. 780 01:06:12,890 --> 01:06:14,050 And that's got to be a group. 781 01:06:14,430 --> 01:06:16,370 And we don't anticipate to have any. 782 01:06:16,690 --> 01:06:18,710 I mean, I don't know if there's anything something out of this. 783 01:06:20,290 --> 01:06:22,950 So, our next regular meeting will be September 50. 784 01:06:23,310 --> 01:06:24,090 That's seven o'clock. 785 01:06:24,190 --> 01:06:27,690 We've just added a public hearing to that for a speed limit change. 786 01:06:29,310 --> 01:06:34,650 And like, like I said, no, no, there will not be any action taken by the sport 787 01:06:34,650 --> 01:06:37,790 after this exact intersection other than to close the meeting. 788 01:06:37,790 --> 01:06:39,710 If you're welcome to stay for that. 789 01:06:39,950 --> 01:06:41,150 Guys and then cycle to happen quickly. 790 01:06:41,730 --> 01:06:42,410 Guys and then second. 791 01:06:44,010 --> 01:06:46,910 Both by Jonathan, seconded by second. 792 01:06:47,470 --> 01:06:49,350 Heidi, all day or say aye.