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a big audience tonight.

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» Should have brought popcorn.

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>> That's Shel's job.

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>> Got some.

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>> That's why she's she's running late.

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>> Popping

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» Start without her.

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>> She'll show up. She was late.

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>> Well, she she said she didn't need a

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packet, so I took it. Going to show up.

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» You all set, Marlene?

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>> I'm set.

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>> All set, kids.

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>> Okay. It is 5:30. Uh, welcome to the

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city of Manasty Planning Commission for

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September 3rd, 2026. Please rise for a

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pledge.

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I pledge algiance to the flag of the

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United States of America and to the

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republic for which it stands. One nation

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under God, indivisible with liberty and

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justice for all.

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>> Thank you.

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>> Please take role.

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>> Commissioner

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>> here.

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>> Commissioner Zansky

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>> here.

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>> Commissioner Winer

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>> here.

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>> Commissioner McBride

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>> here.

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>> And Chair Whit

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>> here.

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Thank you. Approval of agenda. At this

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time, the planning commission can take

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action to approve the September 3rd,

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2026 agenda.

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>> Is there a motion?

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>> I'll make that motion.

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>> Motion by Mick. Second.

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>> Second

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>> by Bob. Discussion. None. Please take

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>> Commissioner Sinski.

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>> Commissioner Zansky.

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>> Commissioner Winer.

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>> Commissioner McBride.

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>> And Chair Will.

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>> Yes. Thank you. Conflicts of interest.

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Uh is there any uh commissioner with any

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type of conflict in tonight's agenda?

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Please speak up.

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>> Not for me.

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>> None. Okay.

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Approval of minutes. At this time, the

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chair will ask motion to approve the

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meeting minutes from August 6th, 2026.

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>> I'll make that motion.

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>> Motion by Marlene. Second.

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>> by Bob. Discussion. None. Please take or

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please take role. I'm sorry.

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>> Commissioner Stinski. Yes.

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>> Commissioner Zansky.

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>> Commissioner Winer.

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>> Commissioner McBride.

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>> May. Yes.

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>> Commissioner Wiff.

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>> Yes. Thank you. Correspondence has been

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shared with the planning commission and

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will not be read aloud tonight. And then

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the presentation

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myself and Maddie on the upcoming

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presentation to city council on the

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You want me to get up there or do you

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want me to just sit? M. whichever you

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prefer. I have a give this to you. You

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can sit if you want.

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» And it's a down arrow, right?

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>> Okay. I always get those mixed up.

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>> Well, this is uh like I said, this is

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the presentation for um city council on

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the 15th uh September 15th coming up. My

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name is Mark Whitliff and we will move

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along. uh planning commission. The

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purpose of the planning commission is to

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prepare and adopt physical plans for the

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city of Manaste, review development

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proposals, both private, public, and

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and is set forth in the Michigan zoning

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enabling act. Meetings are the first

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Thursday of the month at 5:30. Meetings

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are open to the public and recorded and

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shared afterwards. questions or comments

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for the commission should be directed to

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the planning and zoning administrator.

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Um, run down the roster. Um, we had this

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year Roger Yoder, 42 years with

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planning, uh, passed away in

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of many talents. He was a friend and a

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mentor to us. Um and on the 15th uh the

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city will be honoring him with a plaque

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to his uh wife and children. Um on the

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meeting, our first meeting after Roger's

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passing in July, uh his wife Kathy took

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Roger's seat and we presented uh Ro

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Kathy with Roger's name plane plate,

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excuse me. Um

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and she was very appreciative of that.

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So, um, we miss him.

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Moving along, Marlene McBride of 16

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years on the planning. Michael Shansky,

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eight years. Pam Winer, seven. Shelley

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Roberto, six. Bob Slovenky, our vice

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chair, 10 years. And myself, 16 years.

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>> we won't catch Roger, but you know,

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we'll give it hell. So, uh, master plan,

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uh, city planning commission guides a

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master plan by helping establish

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community long-term vision, ensuring the

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plan reflects, uh, local priorities and

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needs. Uh, site plan review committee,

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which Pam and Bob are on,

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um, and myself didn't know that.

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I just thought you wanted to send those

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to me for the heck of it.

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you only appointed two, I figured,

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>> you assumed yourself.

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>> You want my comments now?

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>> I just go on on these guys. So, but

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getting back to it. Sorry. Planning

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Commission assist in the detailed review

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of the site plans for new developments,

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both commercial and industrial. Zoning

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amendments. Planning Commission reviews

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and recommends zoning amendments to

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ensure the city's zoning aligns with the

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master plan and community needs.

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Special use permits. Planning commission

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provides an opportunity for public

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input. Evaluates special use permits to

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ensure proposed uses are comparable in

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with surrounding neighborhoods while

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establishing conditions to promote

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master plan. Uh, we worked with Williams

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and Works and staff to create uh the

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master plan and that went out to

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uh many different entities within the uh

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Projects this year that we've worked on.

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um economy, efficient housing overlay,

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child care zoning amendments.

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upcoming uh items that we will be

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working on. 427 River Street or Water

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And let's see, training education. Each

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member of the planning commission goes

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through um the uh citizen planner

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series. Uh it's a six-h hour or as many

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credits as they can get uh per year. Um

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and I we all do that every year. So I

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think we're all up to date, Bob. Right.

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that, do I? Um, if you don't want to

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>> And then Mark and I will do ours on the

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same day so I can breeze through this

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for planning and zoning or the community

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development department as a whole. um

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consisting of Jerry, our boss, community

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development director, myself, planning

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and zoning administrator, and Jackie,

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our administrative assistant. We handle

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rentals, short and long-term, land use

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building permits, trade permits,

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business registration, enforcement, and

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then between Jerry, Jackie, and I, we

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manage the historic district, planning

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commission, NRBC, and ZBA boards and

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serve as the liaison for those.

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2025. Building, we're at 81 for the year

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with 108 last year. Historic district,

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year and 28 last year. I think Heather

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get those last year. Long-term rentals,

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change with. We have 140 this year and

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59 last year. That is because we are

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requiring all rentals to reregister now

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when they get an inspection. So they

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update their contact information,

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provide updated insurance, and therefore

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59 might have been new, but there were

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probably closer to 150 that were

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inspected that year. Um, and then

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short-term rentals, we're at 165

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certificates, which is technically the

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cap, but that is split between the capex

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exempt area and the total area. So, I

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Um, I'm not going to go over this again,

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but this was also a big part of what our

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department worked on this year. Um when

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received the draft of this master plan

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phase which we got quite a few extensive

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edits and worked with William and Works

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on updating those and then took it

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through adoption and the public review

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Another little breakdown of the three

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zoning amendments that we had this year.

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The first being economy efficient

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housing. Um, I've actually gotten quite

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a few phone calls. I believe there are a

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couple lots on the market that would

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qualify for this, whether they have an

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existing house that people would be

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looking at taking down due to um,

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existing conditions or there's one I

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know that just has a garage on it that

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has just been a non-conforming lot and

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is up for sale. So, couple of eligible

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lots. George, who is here, just got the

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permits for the house off Kaziasco at

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the old land bank property. Um, so

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that's exciting and that will be the

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first economy efficient house child care

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amendments. Um, I believe based on what

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the community foundation shared, we were

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I think she said the first community to

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officially get through that process and

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adopt those. So that's good. that I

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think it's a good um leeway for the rest

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of the county setting a good example and

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I've had a couple people reach out about

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that as well. And then tonight's agenda

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item is mixed use in the light

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industrial district which we've talked

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about a couple times.

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Update on the chill grant. We are

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reaching our end of September official

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final deadline. Our total costs for

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project work is going to be 46,749.

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We were allocated 450,000.

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Um,

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actually, I think it's slightly above

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that. I could be wrong, but ultimately

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where we're at is each house was offered

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the full 25,000, which would have equal

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450,000. So, we have 18 homes. We are

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completely done with 14 of those 18.

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Some of the projects include roof

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sighting, um, porch repairs, walk-in

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showers, windows, new furnaces and water

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heaters, sopet and fascia replacement

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and electric work. Our deadline is the

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end of September for all projects to be

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complete and paid for. And then we'll

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have an additional month to do all of

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the admin work. This will also include a

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public hearing at a city council meeting

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where we'll do a more indepth review of

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the chill grant and some before and

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after pictures um based on you know

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homeowners being comfortable. Here's

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some after pictures of windows. We did

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some basement floor and then um a new

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walk-in shower.

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As far as upcoming projects go, again on

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the agenda tonight we have the amendment

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for the industrial parks. I believe

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there's also some interest and maybe

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some amendments over in the general

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industrial district. We'll likely be up

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for discussion at some point in the

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upcoming year. Jerry and I are being

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brought up to speed on the walkability

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program the city is working on with safe

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routes to school.

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Um they are pretty far into that. So

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hopefully getting some accessible

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sidewalks along Maple. Um maybe some

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bike opportunities whether it's a bike

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lane or sheros. Um some better

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crosswalks where they marked that kids

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cross to get to school. They did a a

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school audit for that. Um chill grant

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round two. We once we wrap this up will

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hopefully be applying for another round

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um based on communication with Julie

347
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who's our liaison with MISTA. She has

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hinted at potentially some vacant rental

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programs coming up in the winter cycle

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which would be eligible for our downtown

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district. So some of those rentals above

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the commercial space could be eligible

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for that if that's ultimately what we

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end up pursuing. And then sort of paired

355
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with that vacant commercial space, um

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Jerry and I have met with the ordinance

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review committee and some

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recommendations from the DDA of some

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sort of approach to managing vacant

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buildings downtown or within the rest of

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the city, whether that be some sort of

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ordinance amendment or Jerry and I and

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working with the DDA to maintain a list

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and um track communication and sort of

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make a long-term plan there. So, that's

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definitely up for further conversations

367
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in this upcoming year. And that's all I

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got.

369
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>> Thank you.

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» Okay, moving along. Public hearing

371
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Z26-03

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mixed Use amendment in the light

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industrial.

374
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>> Um, you've got a copy of what this would

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look like in your packet. Um, same with

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at the last meeting. It's the exact same

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language. This would allow for mixed use

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as a special use in the light industrial

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district. Um, it would still require

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going to a public hearing and neighbors

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be notified, but I think it aligns with

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what the master plan describes that

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district as, which is sort of an

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innovative business mixed use with some

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industrial still remaining.

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I mimicked the language for other

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commercial districts as far as minimum

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living area and I removed the maximum

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building size because I think that sort

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of inhibits some of these developments

391
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and also a lot of those special uses

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that are already listed there I don't

393
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really think um need a max a minimum

394
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building eyes.

395
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» Okay.

396
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Any comments?

397
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>> No.

398
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>> Any anything, Arlene?

399
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No. Okay.

400
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Um, any comments from the public

401
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on this?

402
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Nothing. Okay.

403
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So 5:46 we'll close that public hearing

404
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and then go to the open public hearing

405
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at 5:46

406
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for the 427 Water Street uh mixeduse uh

407
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dwelling

408
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>> multi-unit dwelling

409
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>> multi excuse me multi multi-unit

410
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dwelling. If the applicant could please

411
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come up to the podium.

412
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» So if you could run through what we have

413
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everything here, but if you could run

414
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through it, please.

415
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>> Sure. As far as uh the redevelopment of

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the building or

417
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>> Yes, sir.

418
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>> Sure. So, currently it's a vacant

419
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building. I purchased uh Kitty Corner

420
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here. Um, the intention is to

421
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rehabilitate it back into a usable

422
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building. Four units, two two-bedroom

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units and two one-bedroom units.

424
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Okay.

425
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Um,

426
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see,

427
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>> do you have a time frame when you want

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to start?

429
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>> I mean, once you guys approve me?

430
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>> Well, yeah, that always helps. Uh

431
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I guess uh right now I am already

432
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getting coding. So I'm waiting on the

433
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mason. I don't know if he can start this

434
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fall or early spring to do the masonary

435
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repairs. Um I already have painter lined

436
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up to do the exterior. And then I

437
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already talked to Jerry. I believe I can

438
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start demo any time now. The interior uh

439
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the exterior has to go through historic.

440
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going over some paint colors with them

441
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and then u I guess once that's approved

442
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I think I'll be good to move forward

443
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>> in the interior it's an older building

444
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of course it's been I think the

445
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telephone company years ago

446
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>> um

447
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lead paint that that allated in there or

448
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>> so there was asbestous there was a

449
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report done by the previous owner of the

450
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building and all the

451
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I'm going going to mess this term up.

452
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Anyway, the bad asbestous was all

453
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removed already and

454
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>> abdated or removed.

455
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>> Yeah. So, that was previous to my

456
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ownership. Lead paint, I don't know if

457
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it was tested for that. I'm unaware. Um

458
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the original windows are going to stay.

459
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So, we're not going to because they're

460
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historic, right? So, it's just going to

461
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be a repair of the windows.

462
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>> Okay.

463
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Has there been any because that

464
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building's a little older, any water

465
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intrusion?

466
00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:29,360
It looks like there was Yeah. Yep. Uh it

467
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looks like more around the foundation

468
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there was some water intrusion. Yeah.

469
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The mason's supposed to take care of

470
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that.

471
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>> Okay.

472
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>> In his scope of work.

473
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>> I mean it's a it's a great plan. I

474
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>> Yeah, I know. Um

475
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>> for the area

476
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>> part of it is required for fire

477
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suppression will be part of the project

478
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required.

479
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>> Um and it'll be complete interior rehab.

480
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>> So gutted. I think you guys should have

481
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a copy of the plan.

482
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>> Yes.

483
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>> Yeah. gutted and completely gutted and

484
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new interior walls. Any supporting

485
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structural would stay. Um, but aside

486
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from it, structural,

487
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>> you know, we've been looking at trying

488
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to get that building rehabilitated since

489
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I've been on the the commission, and

490
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this looks like the most doable plan

491
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that I've seen.

492
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>> Thank you.

493
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>> I mean, I I like the the floor plans. I

494
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think uh I think they're very doable. U

495
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going to be a lot of work, though. Yeah.

496
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>> Not going to be cheap, I'm sure.

497
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>> For sure. Yeah.

498
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>> Um, one of the things I the only

499
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question I have if I can ask is what

500
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about parking? What's the plan?

501
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>> So, that's something I've already talked

502
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to Jerry about. Um,

503
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I want to say extensively, but we've had

504
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a few discussions about it. Um, the lot

505
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to the east there, I own that as well.

506
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That was part of the when I bought the

507
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building, the lot as well. Um, I'm

508
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concerned about the cost to create that

509
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into parking. So right now I have that's

510
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not part of the plan as of today. So

511
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street parking is the option right now.

512
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The second option is uh talking to I

513
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think Z carts and maybe see if I can get

514
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some I mean uh Jerry suggested I talk to

515
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the owner of that and see if I could um

516
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possibly set up a lease for a few

517
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parking spaces to try and alleviate road

518
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parking. So but I haven't met him or

519
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talked to him yet.

520
00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:24,320
Um, but as of right now, road parking,

521
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um, the future plan, uh, after maybe

522
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construction, I can see how this goes.

523
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Um, convert that lot into parking that's associated.

524
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>> So, I'm just curious, would it be what's

525
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the is the issue the retaining wall that

526
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you would be required or

527
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>> well,

528
00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:42,799
>> just the general excavation of that?

529
00:21:42,799 --> 00:21:44,480
>> Yeah, the general excavation. Yes,

530
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there'd be retention. I'd have to do

531
00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:47,200
retention along the back for sure

532
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because of the height difference. And

533
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then actually probably along the east

534
00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:52,559
side as well where those cedar trees

535
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are. Um I'd probably leave those and

536
00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:56,240
just put retention there. So I'm

537
00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:57,840
actually meeting an excavator tomorrow

538
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to discuss that option as well. He was

539
00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:02,159
supposed to get me pricing already and I

540
00:22:02,159 --> 00:22:03,679
have not received that yet. So

541
00:22:03,679 --> 00:22:06,320
>> what what would the how many spaces do

542
00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:08,159
you think you would get? What's the

543
00:22:08,159 --> 00:22:10,240
>> I I think I could get eight spaces in

544
00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:12,640
there to be honest. Um maybe even 10,

545
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but I haven't physically measured it.

546
00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:16,080
Um

547
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>> I thought that area would be nice for in my own mind anyway nice courtyard for

548
00:22:20,799 --> 00:22:21,679
your tenants.

549
00:22:21,679 --> 00:22:22,240
>> Yeah.

550
00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:24,320
>> Just kick back and have a nice

551
00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:25,360
>> green space.

552
00:22:25,360 --> 00:22:25,919
>> Yeah.

553
00:22:25,919 --> 00:22:27,679
>> Um but you know parking of course

554
00:22:27,679 --> 00:22:28,960
>> parking is always

555
00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:30,640
>> Yeah. Yeah. Jerry informed me that

556
00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:32,400
parking was a premium

557
00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:34,559
>> that would be uh discussed. So

558
00:22:34,559 --> 00:22:35,440
>> yeah.

559
00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:37,919
>> So I told him it's in the plans but um

560
00:22:37,919 --> 00:22:41,120
the cost to construct uh it the numbers

561
00:22:41,120 --> 00:22:43,280
have to make sense.

562
00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:44,799
So,

563
00:22:44,799 --> 00:22:47,120
>> it'd be nice to get that going. Now, is

564
00:22:47,120 --> 00:22:50,080
the project funded, fully funded now?

565
00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:52,240
>> Oh, I mean, I'm personally funding it,

566
00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:52,799
so yeah.

567
00:22:52,799 --> 00:22:53,440
>> Okay.

568
00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:55,520
>> Right.

569
00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:56,720
>> Yeah.

570
00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:59,760
>> No, it's it's it's needed. Uh nice

571
00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:01,039
housing. It's

572
00:23:01,039 --> 00:23:01,600
>> Yeah.

573
00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:03,280
>> The way you have it laid out, it's it's

574
00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:04,080
very nice.

575
00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:05,840
>> Yeah. The architect did a great job on

576
00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:08,400
the on the prints. So,

577
00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:13,919
>> so my no my compliments anyway, but I I

578
00:23:13,919 --> 00:23:16,000
Bob and I are on the site plan review. I

579
00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:17,280
was very impressed with the way you've

580
00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:19,679
got the apartments laid out.

581
00:23:19,679 --> 00:23:23,200
>> My only concern was the funding. Sure it

582
00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:25,200
gets the project gets finished. But I

583
00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:26,480
think it's a good idea and that's

584
00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:26,960
definitely

585
00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:28,159
>> Yeah. The only thing I had was the

586
00:23:28,159 --> 00:23:29,919
parking issue and I forwarded that to

587
00:23:29,919 --> 00:23:32,159
Maddie. My concern on that and she

588
00:23:32,159 --> 00:23:33,919
answered my questions on that and your

589
00:23:33,919 --> 00:23:35,280
answer is more than

590
00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:36,000
>> Yeah,

591
00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:39,520
>> that's just a my standpoint and I like

592
00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:43,280
what Mark was talking if you find some other way for some

593
00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:44,559
long-term parking somewhere, that

594
00:23:44,559 --> 00:23:45,840
wouldn't be an ideal park for the

595
00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:47,280
attendant for the tenants there.

596
00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:49,360
>> Yeah, for sure. My intention on the on

597
00:23:49,360 --> 00:23:52,000
the back section, so between the well

598
00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:53,360
the old Bell Telephone building, that

599
00:23:53,360 --> 00:23:55,360
one, the heart building, and the 182

600
00:23:55,360 --> 00:23:57,200
building there, I was planning to put

601
00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:59,280
some livable space back, not livable,

602
00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:02,240
outdoor space back there. Um, it's all

603
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:03,679
just overgrowth and everything. So,

604
00:24:03,679 --> 00:24:05,360
shrubbery and put some chairs out there

605
00:24:05,360 --> 00:24:07,280
and stuff.

606
00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:09,360
>> I have to keep garbage contained back

607
00:24:09,360 --> 00:24:11,760
there as well. So,

608
00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:13,120
Arlene, you have anything?

609
00:24:13,120 --> 00:24:15,760
>> I think it's a great idea. That building

610
00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:18,320
has come before us with all kinds of

611
00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:20,960
things going to be done and never did.

612
00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:24,880
And uh I think it will be a great use of

613
00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:26,320
what your plans are.

614
00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:27,120
>> Yeah. Thank you.

615
00:24:27,120 --> 00:24:30,880
>> And um and that's a great location for

616
00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:33,760
people to walk and everything else down

617
00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:37,279
there. So I'm happy to see this coming

618
00:24:37,279 --> 00:24:37,919
through.

619
00:24:37,919 --> 00:24:40,159
>> Thank you. Yeah, the staff from the

620
00:24:40,159 --> 00:24:43,279
outsiders will probably all move in,

621
00:24:43,279 --> 00:24:45,760
>> right?

622
00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:47,840
>> No, you know, with this project going on

623
00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:51,919
and then the redo of River Street West,

624
00:24:51,919 --> 00:24:55,840
uh, making that more into a

625
00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:57,200
say here,

626
00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:59,360
>> pedestrian federally.

627
00:24:59,360 --> 00:25:01,120
>> Yeah, pedestrian. You could have little

628
00:25:01,120 --> 00:25:03,440
festivals in that area. You can put the

629
00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:08,000
traffic biards in to close it off. Um,

630
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:09,520
it's going to it up

631
00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:10,080
>> for sure.

632
00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:11,760
>> Especially with the development on the

633
00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:14,720
old Chipua Hotel grounds.

634
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:17,039
Yeah,

635
00:25:17,039 --> 00:25:17,760
>> very nice.

636
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:18,640
>> Yeah, thank you.

637
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:19,039
>> Yeah,

638
00:25:19,039 --> 00:25:19,840
>> thanks so much.

639
00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:24,710
>> Yep.

640
00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:27,760
» Now, any comment from the public on

641
00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:30,799
this? Please come up to the podium. Name

642
00:25:30,799 --> 00:25:34,159
and address, please.

643
00:25:34,159 --> 00:25:36,559
>> Andrew Stafford, 400 River Street. I'm a

644
00:25:36,559 --> 00:25:38,000
director of economic development with

645
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:40,080
the Chamber of Commerce and in that role

646
00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:42,080
I serve as the point of contact for the

647
00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:44,000
Downtown Development Authority. Just

648
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:46,400
wanted to speak in support for this

649
00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:50,159
project. Uh Mick, as you mentioned, uh

650
00:25:50,159 --> 00:25:51,919
the last two years, two and a half years

651
00:25:51,919 --> 00:25:54,320
that I've been here, I've talked to four

652
00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:56,799
different potential buyers of that site

653
00:25:56,799 --> 00:25:59,120
and each of them only proposed

654
00:25:59,120 --> 00:26:01,360
residential. There's never been any type

655
00:26:01,360 --> 00:26:03,360
of commercial proposal for that site.

656
00:26:03,360 --> 00:26:05,200
And I I truly think that residential is

657
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:06,640
probably the highest and best use and it

658
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:08,640
fits the character of that section of

659
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:11,200
the the DDA district with the property

660
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,120
directly to the east being all

661
00:26:13,120 --> 00:26:15,600
residential. Um and so I would just like

662
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:17,840
to show the DDA support for this

663
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:19,200
project. It would be an amazing

664
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:22,640
investment and into this uh area of the

665
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:24,880
district. And Mark, as you pointed out,

666
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:26,480
uh, on the heels of the streetscape

667
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:28,880
project and some new businesses on that

668
00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:30,960
west end, um, it's really going to help

669
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:34,159
round out that that area of the district

670
00:26:34,159 --> 00:26:35,520
and so I just want to support the

671
00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:36,240
project. Thank you.

672
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:38,960
>> Thank you.

673
00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:43,029
>> Anyone else?

674
00:26:43,039 --> 00:26:46,640
» Okay, we'll go into discussion.

675
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:49,440
>> Do you want to close the public hearing?

676
00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:50,559
>> Close the hearing first.

677
00:26:50,559 --> 00:26:52,799
>> Okay. We we will close that portion of

678
00:26:52,799 --> 00:26:55,440
the public hearing on 427

679
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:59,919
Water Street. It is 556. We'll go into

680
00:26:59,919 --> 00:27:01,840
discussion.

681
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:04,159
>> Public comment on agenda related items.

682
00:27:04,159 --> 00:27:04,880
Pardon?

683
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:06,799
>> Public comment on agenda related items.

684
00:27:06,799 --> 00:27:09,200
>> Okay. Sorry. Public comment on agenda

685
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:11,360
related items.

686
00:27:11,360 --> 00:27:13,679
>> What about old business?

687
00:27:13,679 --> 00:27:14,799
>> About the old business?

688
00:27:14,799 --> 00:27:15,600
>> Not yet.

689
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:16,000
>> We're not.

690
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:16,400
>> Not yet.

691
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:17,440
>> Down the line.

692
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:20,400
Bob. Uh all comments and

693
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:22,480
handouts from the speaker will at the

694
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:23,840
podium will go through the chair. If

695
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:25,840
there cannot be uh any interaction

696
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:27,600
between the podium and audience, these

697
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:29,919
rules cannot be followed. The chair can

698
00:27:29,919 --> 00:27:31,679
adjourn the meeting. You have up to five

699
00:27:31,679 --> 00:27:34,159
minutes. Uh anyone interested to have

700
00:27:34,159 --> 00:27:35,840
anything come to the podium name and

701
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:39,590
address please.

702
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:47,120
Okay. Now we'll move along to new business Z26-03

703
00:27:47,120 --> 00:27:51,840
mixed use amendment in light industrial.

704
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:53,360
>> I think we move along in the right

705
00:27:53,360 --> 00:27:56,000
direction on how it is going to help in

706
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:59,510
the long run.

707
00:27:59,520 --> 00:27:59,919
» Nick,

708
00:27:59,919 --> 00:28:01,440
>> I mean the district's been there a long

709
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:04,640
time and it has not been fully utilized

710
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:06,480
and I've heard a number of people saying

711
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:08,399
geez why wouldn't we put housing there?

712
00:28:08,399 --> 00:28:10,240
So now we're putting housing there

713
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:12,320
potentially. So I think we're listening

714
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:14,399
to the public and I think the public has

715
00:28:14,399 --> 00:28:16,240
got a right to have some housing in that

716
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:19,360
area and uh

717
00:28:19,360 --> 00:28:20,960
>> like I said good for business.

718
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:23,200
>> Yeah, I agree. It has has been

719
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:26,320
underutilized for many many years.

720
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:29,279
>> Well, since we moved to town in '09, I

721
00:28:29,279 --> 00:28:31,039
think there's only been like one new

722
00:28:31,039 --> 00:28:33,200
building going up there. Yep.

723
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:37,360
>> Yeah, it's Yeah, it desperately needs to be used more

724
00:28:37,360 --> 00:28:38,159
efficiently.

725
00:28:38,159 --> 00:28:40,240
>> Yes, Marlene,

726
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:43,520
>> I agree with everything and I'm happy to

727
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:46,000
see something finally

728
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:49,679
being used over there.

729
00:28:49,679 --> 00:28:51,200
>> Okay.

730
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,279
Um,

731
00:28:53,279 --> 00:28:54,960
with that, is there a motion to approve

732
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:56,559
or deny?

733
00:28:56,559 --> 00:28:58,320
>> Uh, recommend to council.

734
00:28:58,320 --> 00:28:58,799
>> Recommend.

735
00:28:58,799 --> 00:29:00,640
to council. I

736
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:02,080
>> I will

737
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:04,320
Motion to recommend to council approval

738
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:08,480
of uh the uh amendment changes for light

739
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:10,159
industrial mixed use.

740
00:29:10,159 --> 00:29:10,640
>> Okay,

741
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:11,440
>> I'll second it.

742
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:15,440
>> Second motion by Mick to recommend to uh

743
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:16,960
councel.

744
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:20,320
Second by Bob. Any further discussion?

745
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:23,520
None. Please take role.

746
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:23,919
>> Yes.

747
00:29:23,919 --> 00:29:25,200
>> Commissioner,

748
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:25,600
>> yes.

749
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:26,640
>> Commissioner Winer,

750
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:27,440
>> yes.

751
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:28,799
>> Commissioner McBride,

752
00:29:28,799 --> 00:29:29,600
>> yes.

753
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:30,399
>> Whitler,

754
00:29:30,399 --> 00:29:31,440
>> yes.

755
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:35,520
Motion approved. Thank you. 427

756
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:39,200
Water Street multi-unit dwelling.

757
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:42,000
Do a motion to take that to council.

758
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:43,840
>> That'll you guys can approve that.

759
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:45,440
>> Oh, we don't need it. Okay,

760
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:46,399
>> that's us. Okay,

761
00:29:46,399 --> 00:29:47,039
>> just us.

762
00:29:47,039 --> 00:29:50,080
>> All right. So, motion to approve or deny

763
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:50,960
this.

764
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:52,960
>> I make a motion to approve the plan as

765
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:55,760
is.

766
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:56,559
>> Go ahead.

767
00:29:56,559 --> 00:29:57,600
>> Second.

768
00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:00,880
Okay. I'll um write up some

769
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:05,360
conditions based on DPW and engineer

770
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:07,760
comments in the site plan review chain.

771
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:09,679
>> So I'll just sort of tweak those that

772
00:30:09,679 --> 00:30:12,480
you know he has to coordinate with DPW

773
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:13,919
for the fire suppression

774
00:30:13,919 --> 00:30:15,200
>> most and most of those were pretty

775
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:17,919
standard stuff anyway.

776
00:30:17,919 --> 00:30:20,080
>> But the parking too I think really still

777
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:21,840
needs to be kind of

778
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:24,080
>> solidified if I'll I'll say I mean he

779
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:26,080
doesn't have to provide parking in the

780
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:27,600
district. I know, but it's

781
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:29,600
>> um but I'll request I'll write up

782
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:32,880
something to share parking plans or if

783
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:35,120
he paves that, you know, we'll have to

784
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:37,279
go through the review of the striping

785
00:30:37,279 --> 00:30:39,840
and the size there. So,

786
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:44,000
>> we'll keep a copy of that decision.

787
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:46,720
>> So, we have a motion

788
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:49,360
approved by Bob, second by Mick, uh with

789
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:51,200
the conditions that Maddie will put

790
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:54,799
forth. Um

791
00:30:54,799 --> 00:30:57,120
roll call, please.

792
00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:58,480
Commissioner Sinski,

793
00:30:58,480 --> 00:30:58,880
>> yes.

794
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:00,159
>> Commissioner Zanski,

795
00:31:00,159 --> 00:31:00,640
>> yes.

796
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:01,760
>> Commissioner Warner,

797
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:02,320
>> yes.

798
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:03,600
>> Commissioner McBride,

799
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:04,159
>> yes.

800
00:31:04,159 --> 00:31:05,840
>> Chair,

801
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:10,000
>> yes. Motion passed. Congratulations.

802
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:16,149
Old business. Feather flags.

803
00:31:16,159 --> 00:31:18,080
» Leave your feather flag.

804
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:20,799
>> Yeah. Um, I've sent out letters to the

805
00:31:20,799 --> 00:31:23,440
businesses on 31 with them. It's still

806
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:26,159
the same problem of the business that

807
00:31:26,159 --> 00:31:29,279
has had it the most. And I resonate with

808
00:31:29,279 --> 00:31:30,960
this. If my neighbor can do it, why

809
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:34,480
can't I? And so, ideally, they'll all

810
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:36,399
come down. I did write up some language

811
00:31:36,399 --> 00:31:40,720
about I think um special events in the

812
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:43,039
city. Either maybe we include something

813
00:31:43,039 --> 00:31:44,720
on the application that they're not

814
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,120
allowed or this is waved because they're

815
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:49,440
already going through council. But every

816
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:52,000
special event is going to have feather

817
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:53,440
flags because they're there for a day

818
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:56,559
and they're coming in from wherever. If

819
00:31:56,559 --> 00:32:00,159
we had like a parasailing or catamaran

820
00:32:00,159 --> 00:32:03,519
race and they had 12 when I was on my

821
00:32:03,519 --> 00:32:05,919
walk walking down by the beach and so

822
00:32:05,919 --> 00:32:08,320
things like that that I might not see,

823
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:09,760
but those aren't permanent. They're just

824
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:11,039
setting it up for this event that

825
00:32:11,039 --> 00:32:13,200
they've already gotten approval for.

826
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:14,960
Maybe we consider that something

827
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:16,880
different. you know, I'm not out there

828
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:19,360
on a Saturday to see all of these, but

829
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:20,799
it still kind of is, well, if my

830
00:32:20,799 --> 00:32:23,919
neighbor can do it, why can't I? That

831
00:32:23,919 --> 00:32:25,279
sort of thing. And I think that applies

832
00:32:25,279 --> 00:32:28,159
to a lot of temporary signs, but feather

833
00:32:28,159 --> 00:32:30,559
flags we do have the strictest language

834
00:32:30,559 --> 00:32:32,559
on.

835
00:32:32,559 --> 00:32:35,519
Um,

836
00:32:35,519 --> 00:32:38,640
and we talked about special events that

837
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:40,320
don't go through council. So, private

838
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:43,200
property special events like if

839
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:46,720
a business has a band or when Scoobies

840
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:48,480
like does their own farmers market,

841
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:49,840
things like that. Those are private.

842
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:52,000
Those don't go through any really

843
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:53,679
approval from the city if it's just

844
00:32:53,679 --> 00:32:58,149
during operating hours.

845
00:32:58,159 --> 00:33:00,080
Those were the language suggestions I

846
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,559
wrote up. But otherwise, that's my

847
00:33:02,559 --> 00:33:06,320
update is I've sent emails and letters

848
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:08,880
week and a half ago to all the

849
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:10,080
businesses on 31.

850
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:12,720
>> Do you still go in with Labor Fest?

851
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:13,519
>> Yes.

852
00:33:13,519 --> 00:33:15,440
>> Do they use feather flags?

853
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:18,880
>> No. And and we we'll we basically only

854
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:22,480
put our flags out like um like a lot of

855
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:24,320
people on the day of the event.

856
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:25,200
>> Okay.

857
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:26,799
>> Other than the banners that we have

858
00:33:26,799 --> 00:33:29,679
approval for think there's one coming

859
00:33:29,679 --> 00:33:31,440
into River Street.

860
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:31,760
>> Okay.

861
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:33,519
>> And there's a few others on private

862
00:33:33,519 --> 00:33:37,200
properties, but uh but we use the you

863
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:39,440
know the basically the sandwich signs on

864
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:41,600
people's just like you would for an

865
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:42,559
election.

866
00:33:42,559 --> 00:33:46,559
>> Okay. All right.

867
00:33:46,559 --> 00:33:48,880
Well, thank you. Uh, public

868
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:51,360
comments, communication.

869
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:53,440
There's anyone in the audience that has

870
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:56,720
anything, please come to the podium.

871
00:33:56,720 --> 00:34:00,389
No. Okay.

872
00:34:00,399 --> 00:34:06,789
Staff board reports.

873
00:34:06,799 --> 00:34:09,839
I included a permit list. I think I

874
00:34:09,839 --> 00:34:11,760
forgot the certificate list, but I don't

875
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:14,399
think it's changed much since the last

876
00:34:14,399 --> 00:34:18,639
meeting. Couple key things. We issued

877
00:34:18,639 --> 00:34:21,679
the building and land use permits for

878
00:34:21,679 --> 00:34:25,200
the tiny developer house off of

879
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:26,879
Kaziasco.

880
00:34:26,879 --> 00:34:28,720
Um I believe that's going to be single

881
00:34:28,720 --> 00:34:31,919
family now instead of the duplex.

882
00:34:31,919 --> 00:34:34,480
um due to

883
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:36,399
not wanting to have sort of that

884
00:34:36,399 --> 00:34:37,760
oversight that they're going to have to

885
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:40,000
do at Jackson for two separate owners

886
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:42,240
within a building. Um this will just be

887
00:34:42,240 --> 00:34:46,079
able to be for sale to one owner.

888
00:34:46,079 --> 00:34:49,679
Plans are looking good. Um that I think

889
00:34:49,679 --> 00:34:51,359
will be exciting and hopefully

890
00:34:51,359 --> 00:34:53,280
coordinate with George when they get

891
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:55,440
work started there and do some sort of

892
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:57,280
maybe a groundbreaking or invite the

893
00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:00,079
commission to come out. I know that'll

894
00:35:00,079 --> 00:35:01,920
be really exciting for both the land

895
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:04,560
bank and the city. Um, like I said, I've

896
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:06,079
had a lot of calls about other

897
00:35:06,079 --> 00:35:08,640
properties and I've been met with a lot

898
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:11,440
of positive feedback that,

899
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:13,520
you know, this is going to bring more

900
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:15,200
housing and this is making people more

901
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:17,839
willing to invest or buy some of these

902
00:35:17,839 --> 00:35:21,280
smaller lots and um, you know, maybe

903
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:23,200
redo the house because the foundation

904
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:26,400
just isn't repairable at that point. So,

905
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:29,119
happy about that. Um, if anyone has any

906
00:35:29,119 --> 00:35:30,960
questions on the permit list, I'm happy

907
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:33,680
to answer them.

908
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:36,480
And I meant to include the plans for

909
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:38,960
Kaziasco, but I think I forgot. But it

910
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:42,480
is the same, relatively the same as the

911
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:44,720
single family for the Jackson Street

912
00:35:44,720 --> 00:35:46,400
house. So, I think that'll also be a

913
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:48,800
really good model of how that's going to

914
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:51,760
look and for George and for Tiny, how

915
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:53,440
financially that's going to work with

916
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:55,680
Lakeshore and sort of how those numbers

917
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:58,160
are going to come to fruition. Um,

918
00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:03,119
getting this slightly lower

919
00:36:03,119 --> 00:36:06,880
I can't think of the word scale project

920
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:08,000
>> affordability.

921
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:10,640
>> Yes. Yes. but also, you know, he has

922
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:12,320
more time with this one versus the

923
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:15,440
timeline of the PUB and the utility

924
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:17,200
constructions that he has over there.

925
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:18,320
That's going to be a really big

926
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:20,480
investment. So, being able to see this

927
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:23,520
one come to fruition first for both Tiny

928
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:25,680
and I think for the commission will be

929
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:27,839
good. And hopefully we are involved

930
00:36:27,839 --> 00:36:30,079
along the way and can bring some updates

931
00:36:30,079 --> 00:36:35,589
once that work gets started.

932
00:36:35,599 --> 00:36:38,000
» Jackie, you have anything?

933
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:40,320
No. Okay.

934
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:42,480
Um, meetings training attended by

935
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:46,240
members. Anything?

936
00:36:46,240 --> 00:36:47,359
>> No.

937
00:36:47,359 --> 00:36:48,240
>> Marlene, anything?

938
00:36:48,240 --> 00:36:48,560
>> No,

939
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:50,000
>> I got to call you. I will.

940
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:50,560
>> Yeah.

941
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:51,359
>> I keep forgetting.

942
00:36:51,359 --> 00:36:53,040
>> She's going to set me up.

943
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:55,040
>> All right. Me, too. If it's something I

944
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:56,240
haven't seen

945
00:36:56,240 --> 00:37:01,270
>> the data centers,

946
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:02,160
» there is a new series.

947
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:03,520
>> I can send it to you, too, if you'd like

948
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:04,960
to watch it. I have the link.

949
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:06,880
>> Haven't they? The data centers and

950
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:10,320
There's new legislation

951
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:12,240
>> I believe. I'm not familiar with it, but

952
00:37:12,240 --> 00:37:12,960
I believe there is.

953
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:14,880
>> They've got a it was in the paper in the

954
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:17,440
bill

955
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:19,280
>> something with the tax credits. I think

956
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:20,400
that changed a bit.

957
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:23,440
>> Well, also and some statewide rules on

958
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:24,880
data centers.

959
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:26,240
>> That that was all in that presentation

960
00:37:26,240 --> 00:37:27,760
that we we got. Yeah.

961
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:29,440
>> All the statewide rules were in that

962
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:30,000
presentation.

963
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:31,839
>> So, but I don't know that they have been

964
00:37:31,839 --> 00:37:34,400
approved yet, but uh I don't know what

965
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:39,270
the status would be in between.

966
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:41,359
I don't think so. I don't think

967
00:37:41,359 --> 00:37:43,119
>> I'll have to reread that one. I didn't

968
00:37:43,119 --> 00:37:45,359
finish it. I got called away.

969
00:37:45,359 --> 00:37:47,200
>> But there Yeah, there's new new ones

970
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:48,880
coming out online now, I think, in

971
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:50,720
October. Um

972
00:37:50,720 --> 00:37:53,440
>> the comprehensive list

973
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:55,359
>> they do. So, what they they just send

974
00:37:55,359 --> 00:37:58,640
out the recordings of all of the ones

975
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:01,359
they did through the year. Um I think it

976
00:38:01,359 --> 00:38:03,359
was November, December.

977
00:38:03,359 --> 00:38:04,160
>> Okay.

978
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:06,240
>> They send it out. So last year I

979
00:38:06,240 --> 00:38:10,000
purchased one pack and they said it was

980
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:13,119
okay if we shared it with the group. So

981
00:38:13,119 --> 00:38:14,480
>> we can do something similar.

982
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:17,920
>> All right. Very good.

983
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:22,000
Member discussion. Marlene.

984
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:25,520
>> No, I have nothing at this time. I I

985
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:28,480
just like to know what's happening with

986
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:31,520
the old um army surplus. It seems like

987
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:34,320
it's been at a standstill. what their

988
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:37,040
plans are to

989
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:38,640
start. When are they going to start

990
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:40,480
doing something in there?

991
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:41,839
>> The Ringo oil building.

992
00:38:41,839 --> 00:38:44,480
>> Ringo Army Surplus was across the

993
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:44,800
street.

994
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:47,520
>> They were breaking ground this week.

995
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:49,440
>> Were they? Cuz there's still cement.

996
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:50,320
>> Yeah, they were

997
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:53,520
>> Oh, down the right one.

998
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:56,480
>> I I think Katie the land bank took it

999
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:58,000
down. That one

1000
00:38:58,000 --> 00:38:58,640
>> or No.

1001
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:00,240
>> Yeah, the land bank was one that was

1002
00:39:00,240 --> 00:39:01,839
running. Yeah, I think they've been

1003
00:39:01,839 --> 00:39:04,640
working with different contractors and

1004
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:06,960
it's just been a slow process of getting

1005
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:09,520
that cleaned up, but um when I talked to

1006
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:11,280
her recently, she was optimistic it

1007
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:12,720
would be soon.

1008
00:39:12,720 --> 00:39:14,400
>> Now the fence is gone, which looks

1009
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:18,390
better.

1010
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:19,520
» Anything else, Marlene?

1011
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:22,160
>> No, that's Pam.

1012
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:23,200
>> No, not really.

1013
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:26,240
>> Okay, Nick. Well, the only thing is, you

1014
00:39:26,240 --> 00:39:29,119
know, they we talk about walkability,

1015
00:39:29,119 --> 00:39:35,119
uh, but we have an issue with with

1016
00:39:35,119 --> 00:39:40,240
drivers not respecting the the walkways.

1017
00:39:40,240 --> 00:39:43,520
I I mean, eventually it's going to I

1018
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:46,240
watched just today I watched a young man

1019
00:39:46,240 --> 00:39:48,560
coming back from school trying to cross

1020
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:57,920
31 on Sixth Street and he ended up started at he he must

1021
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:00,079
have waited there at least 10 minutes

1022
00:40:00,079 --> 00:40:01,599
trying to get across fifth street. Every

1023
00:40:01,599 --> 00:40:03,520
time he would try there would be a car

1024
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:05,760
coming in or to coming from another

1025
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:08,320
corner. He ended up starting walking

1026
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:10,640
towards First Street. I don't know how

1027
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:13,520
far he went, but

1028
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:15,599
I always thought the rule was if you

1029
00:40:15,599 --> 00:40:17,760
step into a crosswalk, traffic is

1030
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:19,359
supposed to stop even on a state

1031
00:40:19,359 --> 00:40:20,400
highway.

1032
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:21,200
>> I couldn't.

1033
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:22,320
>> No. No.

1034
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:23,839
>> So you can run over somebody if they're

1035
00:40:23,839 --> 00:40:25,440
in the crosswalk. There's no

1036
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:27,200
>> require fault for hitting them. But if

1037
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:29,520
the crosswalk is not having a sign

1038
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:29,760
saying

1039
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:31,680
>> Oh, it is

1040
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:35,520
if it needs to have a signage saying

1041
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:37,440
>> pedestrians. It doesn't have that

1042
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:38,079
signage.

1043
00:40:38,079 --> 00:40:40,560
>> You know, I travel other places and I'll

1044
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:42,240
give you example. I was in Portland,

1045
00:40:42,240 --> 00:40:45,440
Maine. Heck, if if I was close to a

1046
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:47,760
crosswalk, they stopped.

1047
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:49,599
That just doesn't happen here. And I

1048
00:40:49,599 --> 00:40:51,440
think part of that is maybe we don't

1049
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:53,760
have the right regulations or maybe we

1050
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:56,160
just don't, you know, have a good

1051
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:58,960
education. We had brought up this a

1052
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:02,319
couple years back and we wanted a

1053
00:41:02,319 --> 00:41:05,359
crosswalk down by the Catholic school

1054
00:41:05,359 --> 00:41:06,640
there

1055
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:09,520
>> cuz that's such a bad section there and

1056
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:12,240
kids crossing to the high school or the

1057
00:41:12,240 --> 00:41:15,680
Catholic school and that and I don't

1058
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:17,200
know what ever happened to it but

1059
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:19,440
nothing ever surfaced but getting

1060
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:21,280
>> I know along the highway there's only

1061
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:24,800
about two signs that says uh crosswalk

1062
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:28,240
ahead and There's only two of them. So,

1063
00:41:28,240 --> 00:41:29,920
one's on eighth street

1064
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:31,200
>> and I'm not sure where the other one's

1065
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:33,200
at. But that was the only ones that are

1066
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:34,400
>> The other one's at Fifth Street.

1067
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:36,400
>> That's the But it doesn't matter.

1068
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:38,560
>> If he's crossing at six, that's not the

1069
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:40,400
that's not they so they would almost

1070
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:42,160
need one at every block where there's a

1071
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:42,480
cross.

1072
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:44,319
>> But even at Fifth Street, nobody I mean

1073
00:41:44,319 --> 00:41:47,280
literally nobody will stop.

1074
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:48,960
>> Yeah. But that but the ones that are

1075
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:52,079
marked where they can get uh duty law

1076
00:41:52,079 --> 00:41:54,160
enforcement on them. Um

1077
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:57,760
>> but also you know some of our uh the

1078
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:01,200
example on uh River Street the crosswalk

1079
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:04,000
if you're crossing across US 31 you have

1080
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:07,119
to be you know a track star because

1081
00:42:07,119 --> 00:42:09,040
three steps into it and it's flashing

1082
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:13,440
you that it's your time is up and people

1083
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:16,319
are very um

1084
00:42:16,319 --> 00:42:18,960
anxious to make their left and right

1085
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:20,640
turns. Those are the ones that make it

1086
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:23,119
most dangerous.

1087
00:42:23,119 --> 00:42:25,520
Anyways, I just wanted to

1088
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:27,920
>> say my piece about people, you know,

1089
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:29,119
again, we're not going to have

1090
00:42:29,119 --> 00:42:31,359
pedestrian friendly if if we can't

1091
00:42:31,359 --> 00:42:33,119
figure out what we're going to do with

1092
00:42:33,119 --> 00:42:34,160
crosswalks.

1093
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:37,599
>> Um M DOT is increasing, I believe, the

1094
00:42:37,599 --> 00:42:39,599
number of crosswalks on 31 in their

1095
00:42:39,599 --> 00:42:41,440
project, and they're expanding the

1096
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:44,960
sidewalk the whole way um down by MCC.

1097
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:47,680
That's going to be a whole new section

1098
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:49,200
over there. That intersection is going

1099
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:50,960
to look completely different as far as I

1100
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:54,400
know. And then Maple Street, that is

1101
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:57,920
what this safe routes to school grant is

1102
00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:02,240
going to be focused on. Um Jerry and I

1103
00:43:02,240 --> 00:43:04,960
literally a week and a half ago kind of

1104
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:07,520
got involved in the project. So, I don't

1105
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:10,240
have all of the facts, but from what it

1106
00:43:10,240 --> 00:43:12,400
sounds like, when

1107
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:15,040
we started this and Spicer drew up the

1108
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:17,680
designs for the Maple Street project in

1109
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:21,119
the Milanfill, they had some increased

1110
00:43:21,119 --> 00:43:24,000
sidewalks and um crosswalks, some

1111
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:26,720
bumpouts, some ADA

1112
00:43:26,720 --> 00:43:28,800
um ramp, not ramps, but you know, some

1113
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:30,640
better quality sidewalks that are more

1114
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:34,160
ADA friendly. and it was way far out of

1115
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:36,880
the M dot budget for that project. And

1116
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:39,520
so with the safe routes to school grant,

1117
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:41,520
those are going to be the details that

1118
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:45,040
ideally will be implementing. Um,

1119
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:49,119
however, Spicer isn't doing those prelim

1120
00:43:49,119 --> 00:43:51,599
plans because of how this grant works.

1121
00:43:51,599 --> 00:43:53,440
It's going to be a different firm, so

1122
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:56,079
they don't have those done yet. Um, so I

1123
00:43:56,079 --> 00:43:58,160
don't know exactly what is included in

1124
00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:01,040
them. We just yesterday met with the

1125
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:03,280
safe routes to school coordinator for

1126
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:06,480
the region, but hopefully some of those

1127
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:09,359
um increased safety measures are going

1128
00:44:09,359 --> 00:44:11,359
to be included. And then Jerry and I

1129
00:44:11,359 --> 00:44:16,160
went to a conference down in Hart

1130
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:19,760
two weeks ago and Tracy Davis's daughter

1131
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:22,000
organized it and so she invited us and

1132
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:24,160
it was pretty community specific to Hart

1133
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:26,560
but we were able to attend and um Mark

1134
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:28,880
Fenton was there who is a walkability

1135
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:31,280
expert and he was he was really

1136
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:34,000
wonderful and had a lot of great ideas

1137
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:37,119
for slowing down traffic and things like

1138
00:44:37,119 --> 00:44:39,599
that. And so hopefully if we don't see

1139
00:44:39,599 --> 00:44:41,680
those in some of these prelim plans, we

1140
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:44,160
can work those in because, you know, you

1141
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:45,920
can only do so much about cars and the

1142
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:47,760
cops can only do so much when they're

1143
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:50,560
out patrolling. So things like that um

1144
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:53,040
hopefully will be included, but until we

1145
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:54,720
see the the plans, I don't really know.

1146
00:44:54,720 --> 00:44:56,880
And I didn't see Spicer's plans for

1147
00:44:56,880 --> 00:45:07,430
Maple Street either, so we will see.

1148
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:09,599
Nothing really much I can think of. I

1149
00:45:09,599 --> 00:45:12,079
just remembered well we went to one of

1150
00:45:12,079 --> 00:45:14,000
the meetings with MDOT at the uh

1151
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:15,520
college.

1152
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:17,680
Uh I made sure I talked for their

1153
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:20,880
engineer there and but Manassy's in one

1154
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:22,560
man county one district. Mason County is

1155
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:25,359
the next and neither district knew the

1156
00:45:25,359 --> 00:45:28,319
other ones were doing projects next year

1157
00:45:28,319 --> 00:45:32,560
up next to each other because US 31 and

1158
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:34,640
just south of county line is going to be

1159
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:36,880
redone also. They're in the process of

1160
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:39,680
working on the detour for town line

1161
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:43,200
quarter line to bring them up that way

1162
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:45,200
on that district. That's another MDOT

1163
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:47,920
district. So I made them aware of it at

1164
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:49,119
the time and I haven't heard anything

1165
00:45:49,119 --> 00:45:51,680
back from them on it. So there's

1166
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:54,800
possibly two big projects going in

1167
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:57,440
>> that area goes 31 next year.

1168
00:45:57,440 --> 00:46:00,319
>> What's their timeline?

1169
00:46:00,319 --> 00:46:02,160
>> I didn't have I haven't talked to Keith

1170
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:05,680
down the Mason County one, but with the

1171
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:09,119
meeting we had at the Mass one, they're

1172
00:46:09,119 --> 00:46:12,000
starting next next spring next April.

1173
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:13,440
>> They're starting on that side. They're

1174
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:14,000
starting

1175
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:16,800
>> on the same side that South side.

1176
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:17,760
>> Can I say one thing?

1177
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:20,560
>> Sure. I'd like to congratulate Bob and

1178
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:22,400
all the firefighters from Grant

1179
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:25,920
Township. They worked for days and hours

1180
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:28,880
and they had everything set up to their

1181
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:31,280
fundraiser to get equipment for the fire

1182
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:34,800
department. They did a wonderful job. I

1183
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:39,359
know you put a lot of hours into that.

1184
00:46:39,359 --> 00:46:43,200
>> You say that every year.

1185
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:46,079
>> What? Well, when you when you're there

1186
00:46:46,079 --> 00:46:49,119
five nights before the thing even starts

1187
00:46:49,119 --> 00:46:51,359
and you spend all day, two days there.

1188
00:46:51,359 --> 00:46:52,880
>> About a half chickens running around,

1189
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:54,480
Bob. So,

1190
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:55,359
>> you sell that.

1191
00:46:55,359 --> 00:46:57,040
>> We made a thous we cooked for a

1192
00:46:57,040 --> 00:47:00,630
thousand.

1193
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:02,560
» And you had how many people?

1194
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:03,839
>> Just over 800.

1195
00:47:03,839 --> 00:47:06,400
>> Okay. Very good. Worthwhile.

1196
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:08,079
>> And we sold a lot of the chicken people

1197
00:47:08,079 --> 00:47:09,440
after.

1198
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:10,960
>> Bob got to eat finally.

1199
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:13,280
>> Yeah. In the senior center, you had our

1200
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:14,560
leftover desserts.

1201
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:17,839
>> Yeah. Thank you. Thank you.

1202
00:47:17,839 --> 00:47:19,680
>> Yeah, we did a lot lot of desserts left

1203
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:21,520
over and

1204
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:23,440
Marlene was at the senior center when I

1205
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:24,800
was food was coming from.

1206
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:27,839
>> Yeah. And he I left my carrier when I

1207
00:47:27,839 --> 00:47:31,040
donated cupcakes and stuff and he had

1208
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:34,560
delivered it back to me. So,

1209
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:35,839
>> he's a good boy.

1210
00:47:35,839 --> 00:47:36,319
>> Yeah,

1211
00:47:36,319 --> 00:47:38,560
>> it's a good event. And then we got

1212
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:41,359
filers from uh Halloween stuff coming up

1213
00:47:41,359 --> 00:47:42,880
soon.

1214
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:44,319
>> Oh

1215
00:47:44,319 --> 00:47:46,960
>> yeah. No, not the No, get their

1216
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:47,359
Halloween.

1217
00:47:47,359 --> 00:47:48,400
>> Filer. Okay.

1218
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:50,079
>> Yeah.

1219
00:47:50,079 --> 00:47:51,359
>> Not the other one.

1220
00:47:51,359 --> 00:47:52,800
>> No, we're not involved in that this

1221
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:54,319
year. First of all, they want to do it

1222
00:47:54,319 --> 00:47:55,119
by themselves.

1223
00:47:55,119 --> 00:47:56,480
>> Okay.

1224
00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:58,560
Thank you, Robert.

1225
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:00,800
>> Uh online citizen planner classes. We

1226
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:02,560
talked about

1227
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:06,960
um certificates for everyone that

1228
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:11,040
um finishes their citizen planner. Um

1229
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:13,520
can we get anything from that? Talk to

1230
00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:15,839
Mary Riley

1231
00:48:15,839 --> 00:48:17,440
>> like every year when you finish the

1232
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:18,000
training.

1233
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:20,400
>> We used to get them used to get

1234
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:21,359
certificates when we

1235
00:48:21,359 --> 00:48:22,960
>> I can ask. She didn't program.

1236
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:25,359
>> It wasn't Mary that I talked to to keep

1237
00:48:25,359 --> 00:48:26,640
track of the trainings.

1238
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:27,040
>> All right.

1239
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:30,000
>> It was someone else. And when I sent the

1240
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:32,240
final update last year that everyone had

1241
00:48:32,240 --> 00:48:33,760
completed

1242
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:36,160
um the required hours, I didn't get a

1243
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:38,480
response. So I can

1244
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:39,040
>> Okay.

1245
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:41,119
>> Try again this year because everyone's

1246
00:48:41,119 --> 00:48:43,040
going to finish their hours.

1247
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:46,400
>> Exactly. Did you We talked a little bit

1248
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:49,599
about uh the newsletter.

1249
00:48:49,599 --> 00:48:51,920
>> Yeah. I got I'll send something to Mary.

1250
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:52,400
>> Okay.

1251
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:54,079
>> If you have anything you want included,

1252
00:48:54,079 --> 00:48:55,440
just send it my way.

1253
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:57,839
we're going to have about Roger in the

1254
00:48:57,839 --> 00:49:00,720
citizen planner newsletter. So, coming

1255
00:49:00,720 --> 00:49:02,720
up,

1256
00:49:02,720 --> 00:49:06,720
um, this one I forget about fence

1257
00:49:06,720 --> 00:49:09,119
permits. Did we ever get anywhere on

1258
00:49:09,119 --> 00:49:12,000
fence permits? Why is I saw somebody

1259
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:14,079
putting a fence up the other day. We

1260
00:49:14,079 --> 00:49:17,520
don't require them, but based on convers

1261
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:21,440
conversations with Jerry and my talking

1262
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:25,040
to people, I plan to amend that in next

1263
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:27,280
year's fee schedule. So, when the new

1264
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:28,960
fee schedule comes out, we'll probably

1265
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:31,760
do a comprehensive update of all of our

1266
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:34,880
fees because they're relatively cheap.

1267
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:38,480
Um, res residential land use is $25 or

1268
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:41,520
$75. So, to build a house, it's only a

1269
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:44,319
$75 permit, which is really quite cheap

1270
00:49:44,319 --> 00:49:47,040
for the time it goes into review. Um,

1271
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:48,960
and then fence permits is on that list

1272
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:51,280
of reinstating those just due to the

1273
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:53,280
number of complaints and question. I

1274
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:54,800
still talk to people all the time when

1275
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:56,559
they put in a fence of what they have to

1276
00:49:56,559 --> 00:49:57,680
do and send them the rules.

1277
00:49:57,680 --> 00:49:59,839
>> That was 25 bucks back in the day.

1278
00:49:59,839 --> 00:50:01,599
>> Yeah. I had to get one when we replaced

1279
00:50:01,599 --> 00:50:04,480
our fence and because we added a section

1280
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:06,079
that wasn't fenced in and it was only

1281
00:50:06,079 --> 00:50:07,599
$25.

1282
00:50:07,599 --> 00:50:09,520
What what you lack though, public works

1283
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:12,240
makes up the difference with permit

1284
00:50:12,240 --> 00:50:12,880
fees.

1285
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:15,440
>> Oh, there you go.

1286
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:17,440
>> Getting water hooked up and sewer hooked

1287
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:20,160
up.

1288
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:22,000
>> Uh the only other thing is like I said

1289
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:25,280
in the presentation on the 15th that uh

1290
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:27,440
Maddie and I will be presenting to city

1291
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:31,440
council and um city council will be

1292
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:34,240
presenting a plaque to Roger's family.

1293
00:50:34,240 --> 00:50:36,880
So, if all could be there, it'd be

1294
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:38,720
great.

1295
00:50:38,720 --> 00:50:42,720
And time now is 6:20. I would ask for an

1296
00:50:42,720 --> 00:50:48,150
>> adjournment.

1297
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:51,670
5:30.

1298
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:54,240
Devouring.