1 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:22,080 Everybody >> welcome board meeting for June 24th 2 00:27:18,559 --> 00:27:26,960 and uh the everybody is welcome to join in person in by Zoom or on Facebook if 3 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:29,919 you would like to join by Zoom. The instructions are at the beginning of 4 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:34,000 each agenda. And this will be available um online 5 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:39,679 tomorrow as well. So um we're going to start with asking 6 00:27:37,679 --> 00:27:43,400 counselor to lead people 7 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:53,544 to the flag of America and to the republic for it 8 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:55,564 stands nationy [clears throat] 9 00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:58,799 andice for 10 00:28:05,120 --> 00:28:13,919 proclamation on the occasion of the 250th anniversary of the United States. 11 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:18,000 Whereas on July 4th, 206, the United States would celebrate its 12 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:22,000 250th anniversary, marking the signing of Declaration of Independence and the 13 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:27,039 founding of our nation. And whereas our founders established a nation based on 14 00:28:24,159 --> 00:28:30,799 equality and alien level rights and the pursuit of happiness principles that 15 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:34,399 have guided America's enduring legacy of freedom and achievement. And whereas our 16 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:38,799 system of representation of government is based on the wisdom of the shony. 17 00:28:37,039 --> 00:28:43,360 Whereas local government plays a vital role in teaching civic values, honoring 18 00:28:41,279 --> 00:28:47,919 our history and fostering patriotism and unity among new generations. Now 19 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:51,919 therefore be a resolve of time mania has called on the community to join in this 20 00:28:49,679 --> 00:28:56,159 celebration reflect on our nation's journey and recommmit to the founding 21 00:28:53,919 --> 00:29:00,799 principles that made America strong and united and be a further resolve town 22 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:06,480 families proudly commemorates America's 250th anniversary by raising a semi 23 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:13,279 centennial flag at town hall to celebrate our nation's history and 24 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:16,480 future on July 1st 2026 at noon thank so hopefully you guys not come 25 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:26,600 Now it's time for open podium. If anybody would like to speak at open 26 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:26,600 podium, please feel free to come up. 27 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:31,960 » It wasn't. >> Okay. 28 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:52,159 » Hello. Uh Tom Bassid uh retired real estate lawyer, longtime town resident. 29 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:57,760 So I I just come before you for uh uh two purposes. Uh one is to in in both 30 00:29:55,200 --> 00:30:03,919 cases I wanted to commend the board for actions that they have taken. uh the uh 31 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:08,880 one of the one of the actions was to contract with uh I don't know if there's 32 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:13,715 a contract or not with Maxwell School to have an analysis made of the options and 33 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:19,520 that's going to be presented [clears throat] momentarily I guess 34 00:30:16,159 --> 00:30:27,200 options as to what to do about the need for improved facilities with police 35 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:33,919 department and the uh town offices and uh uh I sort of blew through the very 36 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:38,480 lengthy uh reported uh that that's going to be touched upon 37 00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:45,120 I guess or described momentarily. It outlines uh uh several different 38 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:49,520 options rehabbing this building. Uh well, you you you've seen what the 39 00:30:46,799 --> 00:30:55,679 objects are and and and the uh there are cost projections 40 00:30:51,360 --> 00:31:03,120 uh impact on taxes and uh uh and so there pros and cons to uh each option. 41 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:08,720 So you have a difficult task in uh in deciding ultimately what to do because 42 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:13,679 uh there just like I said there pros and cons to various optics, different costs, 43 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:20,799 different impacts on taxpayers, different uh uh priorities. So I I I 44 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:27,200 wish you luck with that. Uh but I'm glad that you undertook that study because as 45 00:31:23,919 --> 00:31:32,399 you know there are two prior proposals as far as acquisition of land on Berdick 46 00:31:30,159 --> 00:31:38,799 Street and then uh basically in the northeast medical area. Uh those uh 47 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:44,320 plans uh fell through partially as a result of substantially as a result of 48 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:50,320 lack of citizen input and uh careful analysis of of the factors that are 49 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:56,720 outlined in this report. So the second subject uh oh 50 00:31:54,559 --> 00:32:03,200 I have two sort of self-deprecating things to say. One being uh you're here 51 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:07,742 for this report, right? So um I was rejected by the Maxwell School. 52 00:32:05,722 --> 00:32:07,742 [laughter] 53 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:15,039 so long ago when I was trying to get a dual degree between the law school and 54 00:32:12,799 --> 00:32:18,880 the national school but but uh the national school obviously is the number 55 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:24,559 one uh uh school in the country for public administration and other such 56 00:32:20,559 --> 00:32:29,600 affairs but I don't hold it against you because my my qualifications were not up 57 00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:37,360 to up to par but the second item I wanted to address was the uh regressive 58 00:32:33,039 --> 00:32:42,880 decision on the part of the board uh to pick Brett as a a a new counselor. I 59 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:51,279 don't know what the process was. What I know is uh based on resumes uh that uh 60 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:56,960 uh he's well qualified, brings uh an impressive academic record uh to the 61 00:32:54,000 --> 00:33:02,000 board, is a lawyer, not that there's anything necessarily inherently good or 62 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:09,679 bad about being a lawyer, but he's a lawyer. [laughter] 63 00:33:04,559 --> 00:33:14,320 And I uh suppressed the um bias uh that I might have had as far as having gone 64 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:19,200 to Dartmouth College, his having gone to Yale University, I think, and Yale Law 65 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:24,399 School. All good because the qualifications he 66 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:31,279 he brings are are excellent. But the other aspect of it was that it it shows 67 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:37,200 a a welcomeness of of diversity uh of the sort that you're aware of. uh our 68 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:42,480 society is backsliding in certain ways uh as far in a lot of different areas 69 00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:49,840 including uh what had originally been the successful uh gay rights movement. 70 00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:56,159 Uh and uh as the parent of uh of a daughter who was in a a same-sex marital 71 00:33:53,279 --> 00:34:01,679 relationship uh those individuals are parents of our two granddaughters. I was 72 00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:08,639 particularly moved when I saw the video of the swearing in ceremony uh which was 73 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:12,800 held here where uh Rat's spouse brought their children and uh it was quite 74 00:34:11,359 --> 00:34:18,480 moving but none of that would have occurred unless you had the willingness 75 00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:25,839 to be progressive enough to uh set aside whatever classes you might have had and 76 00:34:22,079 --> 00:34:31,159 uh embrace the diversity which uh our society is dependent upon. Thanks so 77 00:34:28,159 --> 00:34:31,159 much. 78 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:50,520 Yeah, I would. >> So, I'll just realize 79 00:34:51,359 --> 00:34:59,520 » Pat Allen Manoa. So, I I I had the chance to read through the Maxwell 80 00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:05,280 presentation with us. >> Very good. Very thorough. But I I just 81 00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:10,560 had a question, right? I was under the impression that we're still open to 82 00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:19,200 exploring other options. So what we see in the Maxwell report is a whole buffet 83 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:24,960 of options to consider. Right? >> But there could be other options that 84 00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:29,359 are added to the buffet table to make our choices that much richer. 85 00:35:27,119 --> 00:35:32,560 » Okay. So we're we're all in agreement with that, right? 86 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:37,680 » There there may be fashion twists. could be could be 7G. Who who knows? You've 87 00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:42,640 got a lot of bright people there participating and and offering up stuff. 88 00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:48,424 But I was just a little alarmed because one could draw the conclusion from the 89 00:35:45,359 --> 00:35:53,280 document that here's your options. [laughter] 90 00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:57,839 And I think that if I may, you can add to this, but there has to be a student 91 00:35:55,359 --> 00:36:01,760 project with an end piece of project. They had to put something together for 92 00:35:59,920 --> 00:36:05,760 this project. That doesn't mean it's what the study group has to use. They 93 00:36:04,720 --> 00:36:08,079 have to put it together. >> Right. 94 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:12,800 » Right. Okay. [laughter] Because it would be very easy to misinterpret that 95 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:16,880 presentation of here you go. >> So, okay. Thank you. 96 00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:21,920 » Thank you. >> It's not the end. It's just a start. 97 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:26,560 » Yes. >> Anybody else? All right. Well, speaking 98 00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:32,160 of presentations, do you want to say speakers? 99 00:36:28,720 --> 00:36:39,200 » Sure. Um, so I'll introduce U. Professor Pete Wilhox. He was the advisor for the 100 00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:45,359 Capstone Group that did this research. We they worked with us for about three 101 00:36:41,839 --> 00:36:50,960 weeks. They went on tours of this building, our police department, 102 00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:59,200 uh, Canelis and Dit Police Departments and town halls and did quite a bit of 103 00:36:54,880 --> 00:37:05,839 research to come up with this report. Their capstone period ended yesterday 104 00:37:02,720 --> 00:37:09,079 and so, Professor Wiloxin is sharing on their behalf. 105 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:25,280 Okay. Yeah. Thank you everyone for being here and thank you for the opportunity. 106 00:37:21,119 --> 00:37:29,520 Uh I am a standin for uh a student team who completed this project as part of 107 00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:34,640 their master's degree and they graduated yesterday and got on airplanes this 108 00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:40,079 morning. And so you are stuck with me. They would have been notified. uh but I 109 00:37:37,599 --> 00:37:44,720 want to emphasize from the outset that our task I'm going to go through this in 110 00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:49,920 the slice but our task was not to make any decisions of any kind or limit the 111 00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:53,680 community in any way. I should also say by the way since we're doing 112 00:37:51,440 --> 00:38:02,079 introductions that I am a resident of man uh and my wife teaches in the FM 113 00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:09,680 schools. Um so anyway our our mission was merely to coate the facts as inputs 114 00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:16,800 to the community engagement process and we were tasked with dreaming up some 115 00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:20,640 possible options but but not an exhaustive list. and Scott, the way that 116 00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:27,760 we think about it is we put together a menu. Uh, and so 117 00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:34,480 uh since a lot of you have uh already read u the presentation, I'll go through 118 00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:39,599 this pretty quickly, but uh there have been longstanding issues at the town 119 00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:43,520 hall and at the police station. Uh as probably everyone knows, the town hall 120 00:38:41,599 --> 00:38:48,640 is owned by the town. The police station is east from the village. 121 00:38:46,240 --> 00:38:55,359 um board uh started a community engagement process um including study 122 00:38:52,240 --> 00:38:57,359 group uh participants probably many of you are in the study group 123 00:38:56,640 --> 00:39:00,320 » several are >> yeah so 124 00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:03,920 » professor that microphone there will let the 125 00:39:02,079 --> 00:39:08,440 people that are watching you just be mindful when you turn 126 00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:08,440 » oh 127 00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:20,000 » um thank you uh and so so our our task was to pull together information. 128 00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:24,960 Uh and the key questions that we were trying to address are what are the key 129 00:39:21,599 --> 00:39:29,839 issues uh at those locations? What are some ways to prioritize those? What are 130 00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:36,000 some options for addressing them? And how can this information be communicated 131 00:39:33,359 --> 00:39:41,040 transparently and accessibly to the community? And so our overall process, 132 00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:45,760 this again is a slightly condensed version of what you've seen on the web 133 00:39:42,720 --> 00:39:50,880 if you've uh looked at the web is as Ingred mentioned uh there was a 134 00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:56,960 community listening session. The team did tours uh of both the manlas 135 00:39:54,000 --> 00:40:04,400 facilities and similar facilities in Dit and Camilis. Um we looked into legal 136 00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:11,839 requirements uh categorized uh the issues by uh type and prairie 137 00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:17,920 developed a preliminary set of options and did a preliminary cost benefit 138 00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:24,000 analysis of addressing those options and we put everything on the web. So uh 139 00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:31,920 again I think this is uh available to you but uh this um 140 00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:39,280 the students put together a website which includes uh information from this 141 00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:44,560 presentation. what we set out to do, uh how how we thought about the project, 142 00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:50,400 the options, uh how they compare, and then uh a whole 143 00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:58,160 menu of what the problems are and which options fix which problems. Uh and then 144 00:40:53,760 --> 00:41:02,640 at the bottom is all of the documents and analysis that we did. So, there's a 145 00:41:00,240 --> 00:41:08,800 costbenefit analysis spreadsheet. There's a PDF guide uh to it. There's 146 00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:14,880 information about what we learned about uh ADA requirements uh and what we 147 00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:19,599 learned about nonADA uh issues, 148 00:41:17,119 --> 00:41:24,480 a full slate of uh options to address all the issues, communication 149 00:41:21,839 --> 00:41:29,119 strategies, all this is available. And then at the bottom is a list of all the 150 00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:35,040 sources we use. So if anybody really wants to go in a deep dive, uh they can 151 00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:40,720 look at the spreadsheet which shows how all of this uh fits together or go 152 00:41:37,359 --> 00:41:48,200 through the original documents. Uh okay. Uh so uh whoa whoa whoa. Um 153 00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:54,319 okay. So one of the things we learned a bunch of things from the community 154 00:41:52,319 --> 00:41:57,920 listening session. uh it was super useful. One of the things that came 155 00:41:56,079 --> 00:42:03,119 through very clearly was that people wanted a list, a clear list of what the 156 00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:09,040 problems were. Uh they wanted transparency. Safety was a priority. ADA 157 00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:13,440 accessibility was a priority. Decision should be data driven. So we should 158 00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:21,920 provide as much data as we could. People were wary I think is a fair word to say 159 00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:29,079 about tax increases. Uh and uh the priority, sorry there's a zoom 160 00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:29,079 thing in my way here. 161 00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:36,079 Uh the priority was making everything functional but not necessarily 162 00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:41,680 impressive or attractive. And there was a question about how does maners compare 163 00:42:38,240 --> 00:42:46,960 with other towns. Uh so uh if you haven't seen the uh handout, I'll go 164 00:42:44,720 --> 00:42:52,480 through uh go through this quickly, but we did some comparison uh of adjacent 165 00:42:49,359 --> 00:42:58,319 towns. The orange bars are Manliest. Uh the blue bars are Dwit, Camilis, and 166 00:42:54,880 --> 00:43:04,480 Cicero. And of the four towns, Manliest has the largest population. 167 00:43:00,720 --> 00:43:10,079 Uh it also has the largest area which is uh relevant for among other things 168 00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:15,520 policing. Uh we looked at some financial variables 169 00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:21,839 as well. Household income and the size of the tax base of the four communities. 170 00:43:18,720 --> 00:43:27,680 The median household income in Manas is highest. Although to be sure, manus is 171 00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:31,680 very heterogeneous, right? So that's the median income. Uh but there certainly 172 00:43:29,839 --> 00:43:38,160 are people at other ends of the spectrum. and it has uh the second 173 00:43:34,319 --> 00:43:44,079 highest tax base. Uh we looked at the town's budget 174 00:43:40,079 --> 00:43:50,240 compared to others uh and Mammoth's town budget is about the same as Milis and 175 00:43:46,319 --> 00:44:00,079 Cicero, considerably lower in DIT. Uh and the property tax revenue uh is 176 00:43:54,319 --> 00:44:05,359 lowest uh of all four towns. The team did some additional comparisons 177 00:44:02,079 --> 00:44:10,880 by visiting facilities and they just for reference new has a larger town staff. 178 00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:15,200 It has considerably higher security has bulletproof glass and doors, 179 00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:19,920 interconnected private workspaces so that people can move back and forth 180 00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:27,520 without having to go into a public space. Uh it's fully ADA compliant. 181 00:44:23,599 --> 00:44:32,640 Camilis has what the team found to be a super important thing. They have a 182 00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:40,240 full-time building and maintenance supervisor whose job is to fix stuff and 183 00:44:38,079 --> 00:44:43,920 and they they just went through like a whole list of things that this person 184 00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:48,960 had fixed uh around the buildings that saved a ton 185 00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:52,640 of money, right? So, that's just a thing to put in the back of mind. Uh Primos 186 00:44:51,359 --> 00:44:57,440 has higher security. They have electronic blocks and badging systems 187 00:44:55,040 --> 00:45:02,800 and they are committed to becoming ADA compliant including uh an elevator 188 00:44:59,839 --> 00:45:07,599 retrofit. Okay, so that's the town comparison. We 189 00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:12,160 then uh tried to make a comprehensive list of all the issues that we could 190 00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:16,480 find from either talking to staff, talking to the community, reading the 191 00:45:14,240 --> 00:45:21,920 previous documents that had evaluated problems. We grouped everything into 192 00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:29,440 four categories. accessibility, safety and security, operational issues and 193 00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:33,359 electrical system issues. And then we put rank them into three priorities. Uh 194 00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:40,960 the highest priority are things that we believe are legally required. Uh the 195 00:45:36,319 --> 00:45:47,760 second pri uh category are things that we think are high priority to fix, but 196 00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:54,640 of course it's up to the community uh to do. And then the lowest are things that 197 00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:59,920 uh one might ideally fix uh if resources uh were not a problem. 198 00:45:57,599 --> 00:46:05,599 Here is a quick review of some of the issues. So for accessibility 199 00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:12,240 uh legally required for ADA compliance would be improved door handles, uh signs 200 00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:18,560 with rail. Uh things which are not strictly required uh include uh some 201 00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:24,079 additional automatic doors and an elevator or lift to help people uh who 202 00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:27,680 have challenges to get from one floor with their lane to another. As probably 203 00:46:26,079 --> 00:46:32,319 everyone knows that's not legally required because it's possible for a 204 00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:36,880 person to go outside and go around to the other entrance. So that's why it's 205 00:46:33,839 --> 00:46:40,720 on it should fix, but it certainly is uh inconvenient 206 00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:45,359 uh for people who have any kind of mobility issues. Um also adjusting 207 00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:50,480 counter heights so that they're wheelchair accessible 208 00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:57,280 is on that list. Uh for safety and security uh in town hall, uh improved 209 00:46:54,079 --> 00:47:03,760 security uh like batch door scanners, doors that lock from the inside. Uh this 210 00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:09,599 if you're not familiar with it in our modern world is an essential thing like 211 00:47:05,839 --> 00:47:13,760 at SU we've had u swatting incidents where people called and said there were 212 00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:18,319 active shooters in the building and it we discovered that people couldn't lock 213 00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:21,599 themselves in their office, right? They could only they could be locked into the 214 00:47:20,240 --> 00:47:25,920 office but you couldn't lock the office to prevent someone else from coming in. 215 00:47:23,359 --> 00:47:29,680 That's a serious security concern. And so one of the things that we think 216 00:47:27,839 --> 00:47:36,240 should be fixed is door should be lockable on the inside uh just in case 217 00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:41,280 of that kind of an incident. Also, another thing that uh should be ideally 218 00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:45,280 fixed is this. This picture will either be really familiar to you if you know 219 00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:51,680 town hall or it be kind of opaque. But this is showing downstairs and it's uh 220 00:47:48,720 --> 00:47:56,640 when court is in session, uh people who have to go to the restroom have to walk 221 00:47:53,839 --> 00:48:04,480 behind the security officer, which is clearly uh not uh a great uh security 222 00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:08,000 situation. So, that's uh another item to consider. 223 00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:14,240 uh on operational which is kind of a catch-all category. Uh state law 224 00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:19,359 requires towns to have secure record holding facilities that can ensure that 225 00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:25,839 records are not damaged and are protected from the elements. Uh and uh 226 00:48:23,359 --> 00:48:35,760 town hall could certainly use an upgrade in that. Uh also there's uh 227 00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:41,680 space uh shortages uh heating uh problems in some of the offices uh that 228 00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:48,000 are on the ideal fixed. Uh there were also concerns raised uh which is this is 229 00:48:44,559 --> 00:48:54,079 a little out of our uh daily work really but there were concerns raised about the 230 00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:59,119 age and uh integrity of the heating and ventilating and air conditioning system 231 00:48:56,960 --> 00:49:04,960 uh and some of the electrical wiring where there were um breakers tripped 232 00:49:02,079 --> 00:49:10,960 from seemingly innocuous uh loads being plugged in. 233 00:49:08,240 --> 00:49:15,920 So to come back to the real point, what we did is we took all of these things 234 00:49:12,720 --> 00:49:22,880 together and we made a menu. So the analogy with a buffet was perfect. So we 235 00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:26,559 made a menu and so this is all the items uh that we identified at town hall as 236 00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:32,000 concerns. um they're colorcoded by things that uh 237 00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:38,079 we think are required by law to be fixed, things that um would be desirable 238 00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:47,119 to fix, and then things that could be fixed uh if there were resources 239 00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:50,800 available uh and uh and and their categories, safety, security, 240 00:49:48,559 --> 00:49:55,559 operational and so on. So these are all the items uh at town hall. 241 00:49:55,839 --> 00:50:07,040 Uh at the police station uh the ADA doors and uh at the police station 242 00:50:02,240 --> 00:50:11,040 restrooms uh are required. Uh there are some hallways which are not ADA 243 00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:16,079 accessible and then uh ideally 244 00:50:14,079 --> 00:50:20,240 the students regard this as ideal. I think it probably should rank higher 245 00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:25,680 than that, but there are places there are stairs where if a disabled person 246 00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:31,040 arrives at the police station, someone has to get the person out and carry them 247 00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:37,920 up the stairs, right? And sometimes it could be a person who is uh under 248 00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:44,000 arrest. And so that clearly uh seems to be a priority. Uh 249 00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:50,079 uh there are also uh worn asbestous tiles uh in the floor uh which should be 250 00:50:48,559 --> 00:50:54,400 fixed to prevent people from being exposed to asbestosis. 251 00:50:52,319 --> 00:50:58,800 Uh there are limited holding cells. So it's quite common for there to be more 252 00:50:57,119 --> 00:51:04,160 people who need to be held in the police station than there are cells. Uh if 253 00:51:02,319 --> 00:51:10,720 you're unfamiliar with the police station, this uh line uh marks how far 254 00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:17,680 somebody who is in one of the cells uh can reach. Uh and uh for officers to be 255 00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:22,559 able to get past the cells when they're full safely, they have to turn sideways 256 00:51:20,319 --> 00:51:28,640 and squeeze through that narrow uh opening. Um, also another issue that as 257 00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:33,520 you probably all know, the police station, which is leased from the town, 258 00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:38,559 was once an elementary school and it has huge windows. Uh, and through the 259 00:51:36,559 --> 00:51:41,680 windows, anybody in the public, if the windows are not if the shapes are not 260 00:51:40,079 --> 00:51:46,160 drawn, can see everything that's going on uh in the police station. So 261 00:51:44,559 --> 00:51:54,079 improving the privacy of the windows even something as simple as glass lock 262 00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:59,920 um would be uh a big step forward. >> Uh the secure record holding uh rule 263 00:51:57,040 --> 00:52:06,559 applies to police records which are currently stored in shipping containers. 264 00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:12,640 So that's uh a thing that we consider to be a legally required uh upgrade. Uh the 265 00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:19,359 police station has a severe lack of space. They have um 266 00:52:16,240 --> 00:52:22,559 things stored in places where like like in the roof of the garage where really 267 00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:28,160 it'd be better not to have things stored. They have child-siz bathrooms 268 00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:36,720 because it was an elementary school, right? Uh child size means both both low 269 00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:42,400 and small. Okay. Uh the ceiling in the garage is not high enough to lift the 270 00:52:39,359 --> 00:52:46,559 car high high enough for a mechanic to go fully underneath. So there's an 271 00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:53,119 injury risk uh when somebody is working on a car. Uh there's no designated space 272 00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:57,599 for securing evidence. Um if the police station was able to raise 273 00:52:55,839 --> 00:53:01,520 the lift higher, they would be able to do more of the maintenance work on 274 00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:05,599 patrol cars. Right now they have to send it out for maintenance. the cars out for 275 00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:10,240 maintenance and anything that's serious in the undercarriage. Um, 276 00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:16,880 there's not very much space in the parking lot for the officers cars, the 277 00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:21,119 patrol cars, and the undercover cars plus uh visitors. 278 00:53:19,599 --> 00:53:26,720 Um, so here is the police station name. Uh, 279 00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:30,640 so again, there's the list uh of things that uh larger space from pounded 280 00:53:29,359 --> 00:53:34,800 vehicles. There's a little more detail in here. same color scheme. The thing 281 00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:40,319 that I took away from this when we did the study is the police station has way 282 00:53:37,599 --> 00:53:49,119 more issues, right, of the two buildings, it's it it's just clear in 283 00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:55,280 almost every dimension that it has um more needs. Um 284 00:53:52,240 --> 00:54:01,920 okay, so we were tasked with coming up with some ideas, but not a complete set 285 00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:09,599 of options. These are just ideas. And so uh we put together five. Uh the first 286 00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:14,079 one is to do the minimum uh just fix the urgent problems with ADA compliance in 287 00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:19,440 both buildings. Option B is to shoot for the moon, do a 288 00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:23,760 full rebuild, bring both facilities into one integrated building with town hall, 289 00:54:21,839 --> 00:54:30,160 police, and the court all in one building. And then we had uh three 290 00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:36,800 options uh that differed from that. Uh, option C is rebuild the police station 291 00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:42,160 and to renovate town hall but keep the building. Option D is to purchase a new 292 00:54:40,079 --> 00:54:47,280 building for the police station and renovate town hall. And option E is to 293 00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:52,960 purchase a new building for the police station and do the minimum renovations 294 00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:59,760 on town hall. So it's essentially D for the police and A for town hall. 295 00:54:56,720 --> 00:55:05,119 Uh so these will be hard to read at a distance but in the presentation that's 296 00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:08,880 online there are space diagrams. These aren't for plans but they're diagrams of 297 00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:15,680 how much space is available in each of the buildings uh now and how much there 298 00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:20,319 would be under each of the plans. And so uh this is option A which is do the 299 00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:26,400 minimum and the buildings here and the approximate uh square footage devoted to 300 00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:32,880 each function are are the current layout. Uh and in a minute I'll show you 301 00:55:30,079 --> 00:55:38,640 exactly what's addressed in option A. But option A is to do the minimum. uh it 302 00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:43,200 would provide immediate compliance and safety fixes and it would avoid it's 303 00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:51,359 it's it would avoid having to issue new debt. It's not it's not cheap, but it's 304 00:55:47,359 --> 00:55:55,119 um it's an inexpensive road, but there would be a bunch of remaining uh 305 00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:58,960 challenges. The police would be in an undersized building. The lease on the 306 00:55:57,520 --> 00:56:03,839 police station would continue. The police and the court remain separate, 307 00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:06,480 which is not ideal uh in different buildings. 308 00:56:05,119 --> 00:56:11,520 uh each of the buildings has many persistent problems and a thing that's 309 00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:17,200 really important is that this kicks the can down the road. 310 00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:21,680 Option A doesn't fix a lot of problems which will ultimately need to be fixed, 311 00:56:19,599 --> 00:56:25,119 right? It just means we don't do it now. We have to keep maintaining the 312 00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:31,839 buildings uh along the way and eventually uh rebuild them. 313 00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:35,839 Option D is a full rebuild. It solves all of the problems on the list. It's 314 00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:40,799 one modern building. It ends the police station lease. The police facility is 315 00:56:39,119 --> 00:56:44,720 properly sized according to international standards. Police and the 316 00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:49,040 court are coll-located which is an improvement in security. 317 00:56:47,119 --> 00:56:56,000 Town hall can be sold and put back on the tax role. Um but it's expensive. It 318 00:56:54,079 --> 00:57:01,839 has the largest upfront cost. It would need a large site about seven acres we 319 00:56:58,319 --> 00:57:07,119 think and obviously would require bond. Um, 320 00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:11,200 option C, uh, is to just build a building for the police. Uh, so that's 321 00:57:09,359 --> 00:57:19,040 this new police building over here on the left and renovate town hall. Uh, so 322 00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:24,400 this would um fix all problems that the police that we have and it would uh fix 323 00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:31,200 the problems in town hall. It would also free up the court space in town hall for 324 00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:34,880 other purposes. Um the downside is it requires two 325 00:57:32,799 --> 00:57:40,720 buildings to maintain rather than one which is the case in option B 326 00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:44,640 and it's important to remember that ren a full renovation of town hall has some 327 00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:48,880 risks associated with it like it could be that there's asbestous discovered in 328 00:57:46,559 --> 00:57:56,720 the building and asbestous remediation could be very expensive. Um 329 00:57:53,040 --> 00:58:03,520 okay option D [clears throat] would be to purchase an existing building. uh and 330 00:57:59,839 --> 00:58:08,880 renovate town hall. Uh so that has many of the advantages uh of the option C 331 00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:13,760 except that the building doesn't have to be built from scratch. It does have to 332 00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:21,200 be converted and the conversion cost is a big wild card there. Um, we picked a 333 00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:27,440 uh just a rough size building looking at at uh commercial buildings uh around 334 00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:31,200 Bameas of 25,000 square ft which is a little undersized for the police uh 335 00:58:29,520 --> 00:58:39,119 station but it's much better than what they have now. Um and there would still 336 00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:47,119 be retrofit risks at town hall. Option E uh is to uh do option D for the 337 00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:54,400 police building uh buy a building and convert it to a new police station and 338 00:58:49,599 --> 00:58:58,599 then do the minimum renovations here. Um and uh 339 00:58:58,640 --> 00:59:08,559 uh I'll show you the cost in a second. Um 340 00:59:03,119 --> 00:59:13,680 that has uh the lowest lifetime cost. Um but it leaves a lot of things uh 341 00:59:11,119 --> 00:59:19,440 unresolved because it makes only the minimum changes here. 342 00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:23,520 Okay. So so they go back to the menus. This is going to be impossible to read 343 00:59:21,119 --> 00:59:31,040 here but remember it's in all the stuff that's available on the web. Uh and also 344 00:59:28,799 --> 00:59:34,880 you know both where I live and where I work so [laughter] you can ask me 345 00:59:33,119 --> 00:59:41,359 questions. Okay. Uh so this is an extended version 346 00:59:38,079 --> 00:59:48,160 of the mat of the menu and it just shows like under A B C D and E which things 347 00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:51,119 are resolved uh by those options and those are not only which things are 348 00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:55,920 resolved but they're which things we tried to factor into the costbenefit 349 00:59:53,040 --> 01:00:02,799 analysis. Uh here's how the different options uh 350 01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:08,000 address issues at the police station. Uh you can see that A is the minimum, B is 351 01:00:05,599 --> 01:00:12,960 all of the options for all of the issues. 352 01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:16,720 Um okay, I'm going to show you the cost now in just a second, but there are a 353 01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:24,480 couple of key things that are important to know about the cost. Um and the first 354 01:00:20,079 --> 01:00:30,559 is that the do minimum options on uh town hall or town hall in the police 355 01:00:26,720 --> 01:00:35,200 station when we scored those we took into account that eventually an upgrade 356 01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:41,920 will need to happen and we put that in at 30 years. So do minimum does not 357 01:00:38,720 --> 01:00:48,400 avoid having to do the major overhauls. It just postpones it. And so for for 358 01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:53,359 option A which was the initial uh do minimum uh what we factored in is a 359 01:00:50,960 --> 01:01:00,799 comprehensive build of the police station and town hall in year 30 and we 360 01:00:56,160 --> 01:01:06,160 use the cost of option B uh for that in year 30. For option E where the police 361 01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:11,920 get a new building up front. We factored in a full renovation of town hall uh in 362 01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:17,119 year 30 uh and used the cost from the EIP study that was done uh couple years 363 01:01:14,799 --> 01:01:22,319 ago. No additional work needed on the police station. 364 01:01:19,359 --> 01:01:28,000 Okay, so this is how things stacked up and uh this is uh probably a little hard 365 01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:32,319 to read on the screen, but the options are listed in the same order that I just 366 01:01:30,079 --> 01:01:38,799 went through them. So A is do minimum. The left bars that are kind of in a 367 01:01:35,200 --> 01:01:44,720 muddy orange color are uh the upfront cost of that option, what you'd have to 368 01:01:41,599 --> 01:01:50,559 pay to carry them out uh immediately. The blue bars are the lifetime present 369 01:01:48,079 --> 01:01:54,720 value cost. So it's it's today's cost factoring in what you do today, but also 370 01:01:53,280 --> 01:02:02,160 all the maintenance that you'd have to do over time and the eventual rebuild. 371 01:01:57,760 --> 01:02:09,359 So, so doing uh option A we think would cost about a million dollars now, but 372 01:02:05,599 --> 01:02:14,720 it's life cycle cost equivalent today is $24 million, right? Because a lot of 373 01:02:12,079 --> 01:02:20,640 this deferred um maintenance would eventually have to be done. 374 01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:27,119 The full bill rebuild is obviously much more expensive uh right up front, $47 375 01:02:24,079 --> 01:02:35,839 million and then in count counting all life cycle cost 51. 376 01:02:29,680 --> 01:02:39,920 Uh the split uh version uh uh which is a full rebuild of the police 377 01:02:37,839 --> 01:02:46,640 station and a full renovation of town hall uh comes in um slightly cheaper uh 378 01:02:44,400 --> 01:02:51,839 but not a lot. uh D and E come in much cheaper than 379 01:02:49,839 --> 01:02:57,119 either of those. So purchasing a new building for the police department 380 01:02:54,400 --> 01:03:02,880 uh comes in with an upfront cost of $20 million $21 million and its life cycle 381 01:03:00,319 --> 01:03:04,559 cost is only slightly higher than that. >> Can I ask you a question? 382 01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:09,680 » Yeah. >> The 21 million indeed is that a new an 383 01:03:08,319 --> 01:03:11,839 existing building that has to be retrofit for the police department? 384 01:03:11,280 --> 01:03:18,480 » Yes. >> Okay. So that's purchase and upgrades. 385 01:03:15,039 --> 01:03:22,720 » It's purchase and and in our case of what the upgrade cost would be, which I 386 01:03:20,559 --> 01:03:24,640 think is like $6 million in the spreadsheet. 387 01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:29,280 » Yeah. >> One of the things that [clears throat] 388 01:03:25,839 --> 01:03:33,440 we we just to emphasize that we don't want to put our thumbs on the scale here 389 01:03:31,520 --> 01:03:38,960 even though I live here, right? >> That the we we provide this a detailed 390 01:03:36,960 --> 01:03:42,720 spreadsheet. It has many pages and you can change clearly labeled assumptions 391 01:03:41,200 --> 01:03:47,200 that you can change. Right? So if you think, well, what happens if the 392 01:03:44,880 --> 01:03:51,839 retrofit cost for an existing building is $7 million? You can just change the 393 01:03:49,839 --> 01:03:57,599 six to seven and see how it works, right? But what if it's only five? Um, 394 01:03:55,280 --> 01:04:05,280 and then this thing out here at the end where uh you purchase a new building 395 01:04:01,680 --> 01:04:10,079 for the police and retrofit it uh and then defer all of the things that are 396 01:04:07,440 --> 01:04:16,720 not absolutely necessary for town hall. That comes in with um a low upfront 397 01:04:13,520 --> 01:04:24,240 cost, a higher life cycle cost because of things just getting deferred. Um, 398 01:04:20,880 --> 01:04:29,200 okay. Then we land on this diagram, which is either awesome or awful 399 01:04:26,480 --> 01:04:33,920 depending on your taste in diagrams. Okay. And it's probably on the awful 400 01:04:31,680 --> 01:04:40,799 side because it's not very big uh for you. But on the horizontal axis is 401 01:04:36,240 --> 01:04:47,680 upfront cost. Uh so here is uh option A. It has a very low upfront cost. Here is 402 01:04:43,520 --> 01:04:54,559 E. Here is D. Here are B and C. on the vertical axis is the life cycle cost is 403 01:04:51,200 --> 01:04:59,359 the present value in today's dollars uh taking into account the eventual cost 404 01:04:56,319 --> 01:05:04,480 that will need to be paid. Um in the dream world you'd be close to the origin 405 01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:11,599 in both right you'd have low upfront cost and low life cycle cost. Okay the 406 01:05:09,359 --> 01:05:17,680 size of the circle shows how many of the issues are 407 01:05:13,280 --> 01:05:23,440 addressed right so so A is pretty low cost it doesn't address very many 408 01:05:19,440 --> 01:05:30,400 issues. Okay. Uh B the full rebuild solves all the problems. It's also the 409 01:05:26,640 --> 01:05:35,680 most expensive on both measures. Um the one 410 01:05:33,440 --> 01:05:42,319 so so our thumbs are not on the scale, but the thing that stood out to us is D. 411 01:05:39,359 --> 01:05:48,319 D addresses almost everything, right? That's uh buying and renovating uh a 412 01:05:46,480 --> 01:05:54,160 building for the police and then renovating town hall. 413 01:05:51,119 --> 01:05:59,760 Um, it does not have by any means the lowest upfront cost, but it does have 414 01:05:56,880 --> 01:06:05,200 among the lowest life cycle cost because it avoids the kicking the can down the 415 01:06:01,760 --> 01:06:10,720 road problem. Okay. Um, what I mean by kicking the can down the road, just to 416 01:06:06,720 --> 01:06:22,480 be super clear about this, is I have my my so my car suffers from rust and salt, 417 01:06:18,559 --> 01:06:26,319 right? And I keep getting hammered by I I I need a new catalytic converter like 418 01:06:24,880 --> 01:06:32,240 some some of you have had this experience, right? I need a new this and 419 01:06:29,359 --> 01:06:37,920 that and the other thing. Uh and so the question is do I hang out of the car and 420 01:06:34,160 --> 01:06:43,920 keep paying all that stuff and then eventually buy a new car? At what point 421 01:06:39,760 --> 01:06:49,359 do I buy a new car? And so the um the the life cycle cost is important because 422 01:06:48,000 --> 01:06:56,000 you know there's a bunch of stuff that is eventually going to have to be fixed. 423 01:06:53,440 --> 01:07:02,559 So our key takeaways there are 32 issues of varying urgency. The police station 424 01:06:59,039 --> 01:07:08,240 has the largest number of needs. Um we have five options but um there can be 425 01:07:06,079 --> 01:07:14,720 many many more. You can mix and match things from the menu. um the low upfront 426 01:07:12,400 --> 01:07:19,440 cost. You should remember that there will be higher lifetime cost down the 427 01:07:17,119 --> 01:07:24,559 road and then we put everything on the web. 428 01:07:21,039 --> 01:07:30,559 So uh thank you for listening and are there any questions I can answer? 429 01:07:27,359 --> 01:07:36,200 » So are we is it open meeting to the public or there questions for the board? 430 01:07:32,480 --> 01:07:36,200 » Questions first. 431 01:07:36,400 --> 01:07:42,640 We um I know that a couple of us were at the 432 01:07:41,039 --> 01:07:47,680 presentation last week, so we did get quite a few of 433 01:07:45,359 --> 01:07:52,000 our questions answered already. >> Um 434 01:07:49,839 --> 01:07:56,640 and but for those of you that weren't there, 435 01:07:54,880 --> 01:08:01,351 we we already asked we asked many questions, but so not that we don't have 436 01:07:58,559 --> 01:08:03,371 questions that they were already. [clears throat] 437 01:08:07,359 --> 01:08:17,120 I would set a time on that maybe for the benefit 438 01:08:14,400 --> 01:08:21,440 as that you guys asked the presentation helpful and help me to remember what I 439 01:08:19,040 --> 01:08:29,279 asked. I just I had a couple clarifying questions. Um I think I asked if 440 01:08:26,319 --> 01:08:30,560 tax says value included commercial buildings 441 01:08:29,839 --> 01:08:36,799 » which is yes >> it did was my guess. Sure. 442 01:08:34,000 --> 01:08:42,000 » Um, and I asked a question. I thought it was interesting that the tax assess 443 01:08:39,679 --> 01:08:48,000 value and then the resources that we have for our facilities were so 444 01:08:46,159 --> 01:08:52,400 different from each other compared to the other communities. 445 01:08:50,560 --> 01:08:57,199 » Could you identify actual properties that were 25 to 31,000 square feet that 446 01:08:55,199 --> 01:09:05,679 were for sale currently in the Dallas? >> We did not. We we we looked at a sort of 447 01:09:00,960 --> 01:09:08,719 quick inventory of buildings, but um didn't do that, 448 01:09:06,400 --> 01:09:11,359 » but they weren't necessarily >> right. 449 01:09:10,480 --> 01:09:14,239 » Yeah. >> Right. That wasn't their role in the 450 01:09:13,440 --> 01:09:18,799 time frame. >> Yeah. disappointed. 451 01:09:16,480 --> 01:09:22,960 » I think we actually said we didn't include that on purpose because we 452 01:09:20,319 --> 01:09:28,719 didn't want to but that's where the study group and toward the end of our 453 01:09:26,480 --> 01:09:32,480 process. We we could pick up with that if we chose to. 454 01:09:30,560 --> 01:09:37,759 » Just one additional question. You heard you you also included your heard cost 455 01:09:35,520 --> 01:09:40,799 analysis estimated tax increases from household. 456 01:09:38,480 --> 01:09:46,000 » Yes. And option A when we do the absolute bare minimum says Z tax 457 01:09:43,920 --> 01:09:50,719 increases for everyone although eventually I assume that would actually 458 01:09:48,080 --> 01:09:55,920 change because there' be a $23 million hit over the long term. So I'm curious 459 01:09:53,520 --> 01:10:01,360 how you got these estimates because it doesn't seem to drive where eventually a 460 01:09:58,880 --> 01:10:07,280 bill will come due to nothing. And then on the option D and E, on D, for 461 01:10:05,199 --> 01:10:11,520 instance, there's an $86 a year tax increase for every median household. I'm 462 01:10:09,280 --> 01:10:16,080 curious where you got that number and how long that $86 increase happens. Is 463 01:10:14,080 --> 01:10:17,280 that over 30 years? Does it eventually go away? 464 01:10:16,960 --> 01:10:22,080 » Yeah. >> Or does that $86 cover the upfront cost 465 01:10:20,159 --> 01:10:28,960 over the course of two years? Yeah. So, so the um so those numbers are all all 466 01:10:25,199 --> 01:10:37,120 as as it sounds I inferred they're all based on um paying for the upfront cost 467 01:10:33,360 --> 01:10:43,120 uh over um I think 30 years. I I have to look at the spreadsheet. Uh and the 468 01:10:39,760 --> 01:10:48,960 reason that a comes in with zero is because we assumed that that it wouldn't 469 01:10:46,400 --> 01:10:54,239 require a bond issue to pay for that. That they wouldn't actually it was it's 470 01:10:51,600 --> 01:10:59,600 a million dollars and that that could be covered some other way. All the other 471 01:10:55,920 --> 01:11:02,000 ones is basically >> other four options. 472 01:11:00,800 --> 01:11:07,040 » Yeah. Yeah. There's borrowing for the other four options and you look at what 473 01:11:03,520 --> 01:11:10,040 the um what the tax burden would be for household. 474 01:11:14,560 --> 01:11:19,679 » Yeah. I just had a quick question. I noticed in the you guys discussed the 475 01:11:18,159 --> 01:11:23,199 storage issue for the records of both the town hall and police station. This 476 01:11:21,199 --> 01:11:28,400 might be a question the court as well. Um, is it an option for that um to be 477 01:11:26,000 --> 01:11:32,320 outsourced entirely to a private entity so that wouldn't have to be included in 478 01:11:30,640 --> 01:11:35,040 the >> be outsourced 479 01:11:33,199 --> 01:11:37,920 » and the record storage like it looked like there was a lot of like long-term 480 01:11:36,560 --> 01:11:42,560 record storage and there are private companies contract with just 481 01:11:40,640 --> 01:11:45,760 » I think you have a payment in perpetuity like with a police station they leasing 482 01:11:44,560 --> 01:11:48,719 from the village and I don't think we would favor that. 483 01:11:47,040 --> 01:11:51,760 » Yeah, I'm I'm just curious that as an option that was examined because I know 484 01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:54,320 that there are towns that do that. They don't haveite. They don't have that 485 01:11:53,280 --> 01:11:59,679 offside. >> It can also be superior for security 486 01:11:56,480 --> 01:12:02,239 purposes such as like a fire, >> right? 487 01:12:00,480 --> 01:12:08,080 » We we did not understand that. The other thing that maybe people on the board 488 01:12:05,040 --> 01:12:15,719 know, but that I was curious about is what if you digitize the records, do you 489 01:12:11,840 --> 01:12:15,719 escape from this problem? 490 01:12:15,840 --> 01:12:24,080 » We've had a large undertaking as far as digitizing everything. Um they're almost 491 01:12:22,159 --> 01:12:29,239 complete with that whole process, but there's still a little that must 492 01:12:30,239 --> 01:12:36,000 » and some things like our police records can't be digitized, 493 01:12:34,400 --> 01:12:41,440 » right? The police records are obvious a little different than the town. I was 494 01:12:37,679 --> 01:12:45,560 just curious as an option. >> We are digitizing a lot of record. 495 01:12:51,920 --> 01:12:55,480 Did anybody else 496 01:12:56,800 --> 01:13:06,560 » a question on financing? Uh are there any available uh state or federal uh 497 01:13:03,679 --> 01:13:13,199 grants sourcing for this type of work particularly as far as the police 498 01:13:08,719 --> 01:13:20,080 station or or the uh outfitting of the police station. something to reduce the 499 01:13:16,000 --> 01:13:27,040 need to bond the whole. >> That is an excellent question. Uh the 500 01:13:23,920 --> 01:13:30,080 the team talked with people in the town who have been writing grants on 501 01:13:28,640 --> 01:13:36,000 different things, but we did not do a comprehensive search to see if there 502 01:13:32,880 --> 01:13:42,440 were uh grant agencies that we could use to cover some of that. That's a good 503 01:13:37,520 --> 01:13:42,440 question. Not answered by us. 504 01:13:43,120 --> 01:13:48,640 that wasn't part of their project that can still 505 01:13:46,880 --> 01:13:51,760 » identify that right. I >> mean the assumption is that would all be 506 01:13:50,239 --> 01:13:54,960 explored. >> Yeah. 507 01:13:52,880 --> 01:13:58,480 » Yeah. We we just to be super clear we did not find that there aren't we didn't 508 01:13:57,840 --> 01:14:03,040 look >> right. 509 01:14:00,480 --> 01:14:08,880 » So first let me introduce myself. I'm a former colleague of yours from you albe 510 01:14:05,760 --> 01:14:17,440 it in a lesser program. Oh, I don't know about that. But uh the program I was in 511 01:14:13,360 --> 01:14:24,719 is one that is focused on communication and I'm channeling a little bit of what 512 01:14:20,320 --> 01:14:34,600 Pat was asking in the open forum and that is it seems that your framing of 513 01:14:28,080 --> 01:14:34,600 the questions and the issues itself is 514 01:14:35,520 --> 01:14:42,400 influencing what we want us to perceive as the choices. 515 01:14:40,000 --> 01:14:47,840 And let me give you an example. For example, you said the first option is do 516 01:14:45,520 --> 01:14:52,480 minimum as opposed to saying something like address the immediate problems. And 517 01:14:50,560 --> 01:14:57,440 and the reason that's important is because the way you ask the question 518 01:14:55,199 --> 01:15:04,159 influences the way you answer it. >> You know who Franks is, the Republican 519 01:15:00,800 --> 01:15:08,960 focus group guru. You know, he got us to understand that the estate tax became 520 01:15:06,719 --> 01:15:14,320 the death tax. And there's a big difference in how we understand that 521 01:15:10,880 --> 01:15:19,440 kind of text. So my concern is partially the way the framing occurs in the asking 522 01:15:17,520 --> 01:15:24,640 of questions. >> That's a very valid point. I I um I 523 01:15:22,800 --> 01:15:30,080 think you're absolutely right that that should have been named differently. Uh 524 01:15:27,679 --> 01:15:37,199 because the intent was >> the intent was address the stuff that 525 01:15:33,520 --> 01:15:41,520 seems to be legally required. Uh, and it does sound pjorative to say do the 526 01:15:38,960 --> 01:15:46,560 minimum. That that was a mistake on our part in how we phrased it. 527 01:15:43,760 --> 01:15:50,640 » By the way, I do applaud the work. I I have a question, but I'm part of the 528 01:15:48,159 --> 01:15:56,000 study group, so I can post. >> No, you can. Well, 529 01:15:53,199 --> 01:15:59,120 » two quick questions. Um, the data around the needs of the police department. Is 530 01:15:57,440 --> 01:16:03,679 that around using the current recommendations for the size of police 531 01:16:01,199 --> 01:16:07,920 based on staff or how does that come to? Was it having to do with the actual 532 01:16:05,679 --> 01:16:10,880 functionality of the police guard house or is it more of just here's general 533 01:16:09,760 --> 01:16:16,960 guidelines that >> for the size for the for the sort of 534 01:16:14,719 --> 01:16:22,880 desirable size of the police department that came from uh an a recommendation 535 01:16:20,320 --> 01:16:28,080 from an international organization on on how many square feet there should be per 536 01:16:25,280 --> 01:16:33,600 employee uh in a typical police station. So that's where that came from. So think 537 01:16:30,000 --> 01:16:36,800 of it as a as a rough guideline. uh but not a hard number. 538 01:16:35,120 --> 01:16:42,640 » Then my my second question is is cost versus issue solved. The percent solved 539 01:16:40,480 --> 01:16:46,159 is just percent of the checklist but when I'm looking at the thing the you 540 01:16:44,480 --> 01:16:51,120 know 10% solved >> is all the critical items have been 541 01:16:48,560 --> 01:16:54,800 solved. So so this I found this very confusing because it's not qualitative. 542 01:16:53,120 --> 01:17:01,920 It's more of just >> x% versus and it's x% now versus x% over 543 01:16:58,880 --> 01:17:07,040 the 30 years running 30 years. So I found this very confusing but they 544 01:17:04,320 --> 01:17:11,360 didn't highlight that actually critical issues will be all solved under these 545 01:17:08,800 --> 01:17:14,640 issues. It's it's what we do now to understand what we need to do over the 546 01:17:12,800 --> 01:17:19,440 world instead of years. So it's >> that's an excellent point that they're 547 01:17:16,320 --> 01:17:25,520 not in in my field I'm an environmental economist and in my field I would say 548 01:17:21,600 --> 01:17:29,280 that we failed to weight the problems by their severity. 549 01:17:27,040 --> 01:17:33,360 » Right. And so we we could use a different 550 01:17:30,480 --> 01:17:37,120 » uh icon. No. Yeah, the spreadsheets and everything. I'm looking forward to all 551 01:17:35,360 --> 01:17:39,280 the data use. It's called out there right. I just 552 01:17:38,159 --> 01:17:46,360 » Yeah, >> by this like it looks like based on the 553 01:17:41,920 --> 01:17:46,360 answer there's not 554 01:17:52,080 --> 01:17:58,239 » anybody. uh you know I'm curious when we talk 555 01:17:56,239 --> 01:18:03,679 about those issues that are vigorally required mandated to face uh what's the 556 01:18:00,880 --> 01:18:06,640 kind of consequence for kicking the can on that it's a two-part question that's 557 01:18:05,600 --> 01:18:10,719 the first part of the question second part is um when you do your analysis on 558 01:18:09,440 --> 01:18:14,000 what these costs are going to look like in 30 years if there is a cost 559 01:18:12,800 --> 01:18:18,159 associated with that whether it's opportunity or whether it's actually you 560 01:18:16,000 --> 01:18:23,360 know we're getting hit by actual fines is that included in that analysis 561 01:18:20,239 --> 01:18:26,480 » yeah so um So there's there's two ways to think 562 01:18:24,719 --> 01:18:31,840 about what the costs are of not addressing those. So one of them is that 563 01:18:28,880 --> 01:18:38,159 there's a risk of a lawsuit and we have some numbers in the spreadsheet that 564 01:18:34,239 --> 01:18:43,440 include an estimate of the risk of a lawsuit for not addressing some of these 565 01:18:40,080 --> 01:18:47,920 things. The more important thing I think this is just me not the team is that 566 01:18:46,719 --> 01:18:52,880 some of these things that are not addressed are becoming increasingly 567 01:18:49,760 --> 01:18:57,199 important to a community that's aging. uh like the accessibility needs, right? 568 01:18:55,040 --> 01:19:01,840 There may not ever be a lawsuit, but there'll be people who can't come to 569 01:18:58,960 --> 01:19:08,159 town hall because they have mobility issues. Um and you know, we can I I 570 01:19:06,400 --> 01:19:12,640 won't go through the litany of like my neighbor this and my neighbor that, but 571 01:19:09,760 --> 01:19:17,520 that that would be my concern is is that it would be 572 01:19:14,880 --> 01:19:21,440 the record storage thing. I think I think the record storage thing I'm not 573 01:19:19,679 --> 01:19:28,320 quite sure what the consequences are, but that is a state law and the ADA 574 01:19:24,960 --> 01:19:32,320 thing is it's mostly that you run a risk of a lawsuit or you 575 01:19:30,400 --> 01:19:36,520 just don't serve everybody in the community. So, 576 01:19:37,520 --> 01:19:40,520 » and 577 01:19:40,560 --> 01:19:47,199 um real quick, so in in the when you were doing the comparison, I didn't see 578 01:19:44,719 --> 01:19:53,199 clay listed here. >> Yeah, they didn't choose every time. So 579 01:19:49,280 --> 01:19:57,920 many do it and closest to us. Clay is bigger. 580 01:19:54,400 --> 01:20:06,440 » Okay. So, this was a a size comparison. >> Yes. So, so we didn't do like 581 01:20:02,239 --> 01:20:06,440 these are the ones that are like our 582 01:20:07,679 --> 01:20:14,520 and then I saw here so 30 years seems 583 01:20:14,880 --> 01:20:17,880 » obvious 584 01:20:18,320 --> 01:20:29,280 but I'm more used to forecast flow now no greater than 10 years is is there a 585 01:20:24,880 --> 01:20:32,159 specific reason you chose 30 years. >> We 586 01:20:30,880 --> 01:20:35,360 need a new roof in 30 years. >> You need a new roof. 587 01:20:33,679 --> 01:20:39,280 » Yeah. I mean, it's partly based on how long this building has been in 588 01:20:36,800 --> 01:20:43,760 operation. And the team did factor in new roofs and boilers and things like 589 01:20:41,360 --> 01:20:48,080 that along the way. And actually, I I I forgot I didn't answer one of your 590 01:20:45,360 --> 01:20:54,960 questions about So, what we assume in the the spreadsheet at the moment 591 01:20:50,239 --> 01:20:58,560 assumes no relative cost inflation in the cost of addressing this. So 592 01:20:56,960 --> 01:21:04,080 essentially what we did is we treated all of the future costs as though they 593 01:21:01,440 --> 01:21:08,080 were in 2026. If you think the construction costs are 594 01:21:05,920 --> 01:21:13,280 going to go up relative to other things, you can put that into the spreadsheet 595 01:21:10,239 --> 01:21:16,480 and take that into account. But um >> and then you have one. 596 01:21:14,800 --> 01:21:22,400 » Yeah, sorry. I was going to say one other thing. The the other reason that 597 01:21:19,040 --> 01:21:32,320 we put it 30 years out is that if we put if we put the full retrofit closer in, 598 01:21:26,480 --> 01:21:38,880 right, it it it makes the the cost of even option A, which is the minimal 599 01:21:35,520 --> 01:21:46,239 compliant, sorry, address the immediate needs. It it starts making that look 600 01:21:42,320 --> 01:21:49,239 almost as big as a full retrofit, which um 601 01:21:49,840 --> 01:21:58,880 which we felt would look like we were putting our thumb on the scale in a way 602 01:21:55,679 --> 01:22:06,040 that we didn't want to. We wanted to be optimistic about how long the uh 603 01:22:01,920 --> 01:22:06,040 renovation could be delayed. 604 01:22:06,320 --> 01:22:12,800 » Okay. And then in the spreadsheet I haven't taken a look at but you have 605 01:22:10,560 --> 01:22:19,440 30-year net present value cost after benefits. Do you have the quantitative 606 01:22:16,719 --> 01:22:24,800 data on the benefits? Yeah, there there are estimates in the spreadsheet uh of 607 01:22:23,040 --> 01:22:32,000 of a range of benefits which is reduction in lawsuit risk, improvement 608 01:22:27,920 --> 01:22:37,679 in uh productivity of people who have more space uh to work uh a bunch of 609 01:22:35,600 --> 01:22:42,239 those benefits or in the spreadsheet. >> Get that spreadsheet. 610 01:22:39,120 --> 01:22:47,800 » Yeah, it's online. Yeah. Yeah. >> Okay. Thanks everybody. Thank you for 611 01:22:43,840 --> 01:22:47,800 participating. Thank you very much. 612 01:22:52,239 --> 01:22:57,000 Please extend our appreciation as well. 613 01:22:58,719 --> 01:23:05,972 » Yeah, >> I told them he should they should get 614 01:23:02,880 --> 01:23:05,972 ace. [laughter] 615 01:23:07,280 --> 01:23:14,960 » Okay. Well, let's move on to some of our regular business now. So, I guess I 616 01:23:12,880 --> 01:23:19,600 would. So, it's time to head our summer staff 617 01:23:17,440 --> 01:23:24,960 to the recreation department's programs, the playground, and the swim and all the 618 01:23:21,679 --> 01:23:28,719 other things that they do. So, with that, I'd like to make a motion to 619 01:23:26,080 --> 01:23:31,719 approve the 2026 recreation staff as presented. 620 01:23:31,760 --> 01:23:37,080 I love you any 621 01:23:39,760 --> 01:23:49,040 direction. So, we have, as I believe people know, the town contracts for the 622 01:23:46,719 --> 01:23:54,000 trash vendor to take care of our trash brush and that the members of the 623 01:23:51,840 --> 01:23:59,360 community groups choose to participate with that um pay a fee that always is 624 01:23:56,639 --> 01:24:06,239 cut their annual tax bill, but it is not a tax. It is a fee to cash. Um, and so 625 01:24:03,840 --> 01:24:10,639 there is a agreement we have. it's expiring again this year and we have to 626 01:24:08,080 --> 01:24:16,239 put it out bid again for another period of time to get that vendor or a 627 01:24:13,440 --> 01:24:23,440 different vendor to come forward. So we have um built a 628 01:24:19,600 --> 01:24:27,360 um bidding process in compliance with procurement rules and that would we want 629 01:24:26,400 --> 01:24:32,159 to [clears throat] um put that out now the bids would be 630 01:24:29,840 --> 01:24:38,400 due in August we would then evaluate them be able to put them in the budget 631 01:24:34,080 --> 01:24:41,400 for 2027. So that is the cycle that's 632 01:24:42,880 --> 01:24:50,560 » only our green right >> for only our green waist 633 01:24:47,600 --> 01:24:56,880 » yeah just brush >> our trash okay so 634 01:24:54,000 --> 01:25:00,000 » this is regular people's trash >> when the last time we did this 635 01:24:59,199 --> 01:25:03,840 » five years >> five years ago and how many people 636 01:25:01,840 --> 01:25:06,159 return >> last year last time 637 01:25:04,880 --> 01:25:09,760 » last just one. 638 01:25:07,679 --> 01:25:12,560 » And we all see that problem in there. >> Yeah. 639 01:25:10,719 --> 01:25:18,320 » And so are we going to instruct anybody to reach out to companies and advise 640 01:25:15,280 --> 01:25:25,199 them that we have? >> Yeah. So we have to but 641 01:25:23,199 --> 01:25:29,639 the documents are publicly available to anybody who access 642 01:25:31,440 --> 01:25:37,199 authoriz to publish the bid information for 643 01:25:35,440 --> 01:25:40,880 collection and disposal of brush and collection and disposal of refues 644 01:25:39,199 --> 01:25:46,960 rubbish garbage and recyclables and publish the bid openings for August 5th 645 01:25:43,600 --> 01:25:50,280 at 10 a.m. All in favor 646 01:25:53,679 --> 01:26:00,480 um I can also speak out of parking signs and I want to clarify that it's actually 647 01:25:58,639 --> 01:26:06,000 a little bit expanding from that. So for any of you who have driven by sweet road 648 01:26:03,120 --> 01:26:10,800 on a nice day the three halls woods has become very popular and there have been 649 01:26:08,080 --> 01:26:17,280 some problems with the days of and um traffic safety and damage. So, um, we 650 01:26:14,400 --> 01:26:23,679 have talked to Sweet Road is county road. I spoke to Dave N this afternoon 651 01:26:20,800 --> 01:26:30,239 and, um, he had previously talked with the highway superintendent county for 652 01:26:27,679 --> 01:26:34,800 permission to put road parking this side. So, people will be allowed on the 653 01:26:32,560 --> 01:26:39,840 street on one side, but not on the other side so that the traffic is clearer and 654 01:26:37,040 --> 01:26:45,440 there's a better access to the driveway. And the neighbors requested signs and I 655 01:26:43,440 --> 01:26:48,639 would have highway guidance if it's 200 feet or 500 feet, you know, saying 656 01:26:47,040 --> 01:26:52,320 entrance sooner coming off of this way or 657 01:26:50,560 --> 01:26:56,400 something on both ways so that people would know there's way they might be 658 01:26:54,080 --> 01:27:02,080 exiting traffic. So um and we previously lowered speed 659 01:26:59,760 --> 01:27:06,880 there 45 trying to enhance the safety of that 660 01:27:03,679 --> 01:27:11,840 side. So Mr. app was fine with both the park sign and the no parking sign and 661 01:27:09,840 --> 01:27:17,199 our highway department will have felt such signs um and then our police 662 01:27:14,320 --> 01:27:22,080 department will enforce no parking um once we have those signs there. So that 663 01:27:19,040 --> 01:27:28,800 is our guideline for that. Um and I would like to so I'd like to modify the 664 01:27:24,480 --> 01:27:35,520 motion to say no parts are this side and um it's really not part 665 01:27:32,480 --> 01:27:38,840 or something like that on both sides. So people could 666 01:27:41,199 --> 01:27:47,239 preserve preserve ahead. 667 01:27:56,159 --> 01:28:05,360 So, I'll make a motion to authorize the town's highway department to install the 668 01:28:01,679 --> 01:28:11,560 no parking this side signs and preserve ahead on Sweet Road by Three Falls. 669 01:28:12,080 --> 01:28:15,080 All 670 01:28:15,760 --> 01:28:21,520 » very sign up. We'll give a few tickets and 671 01:28:29,280 --> 01:28:38,000 This is the employee assistance program for all time employees. It's like a 672 01:28:34,560 --> 01:28:41,320 one-year renewal for 71 to 63027. 673 01:28:42,080 --> 01:28:46,040 Your costs are 674 01:28:49,679 --> 01:28:58,800 $50 per employee based on 119 employees at this point and we do if we have 675 01:28:56,320 --> 01:29:04,239 turnoverly they get removed new employees they get 676 01:29:00,719 --> 01:29:07,920 added um emails go out there's plenty of trainings for employees um is a 677 01:29:06,400 --> 01:29:14,719 confidential um program and the only thing that they 678 01:29:10,719 --> 01:29:20,400 tell us is how many uh employees use the uh service we do not know what types of 679 01:29:17,360 --> 01:29:25,280 service and it is also available to uh members of the employees household. 680 01:29:23,856 --> 01:29:30,719 [clears throat] >> Dan, how does that compare to last 681 01:29:27,360 --> 01:29:36,080 year's per employee fee? >> Good question. 682 01:29:33,520 --> 01:29:38,560 » I looked that up, but I have it right in front of me. 683 01:29:37,120 --> 01:29:43,600 » Decrease. >> Yeah, it actually is. Yes, because I I 684 01:29:41,199 --> 01:29:50,480 had a phone consult with our representative and it was a decrease 685 01:29:45,840 --> 01:29:55,440 because we have more wings on >> Yeah. Thanks. 686 01:29:52,719 --> 01:30:01,360 » How many employees you saying you said? >> Um I don't have the figures right now. I 687 01:29:57,679 --> 01:30:05,840 They'll run um totals for us. I can forward that information to the board. 688 01:30:03,520 --> 01:30:10,000 » Is that a monthly reporting or >> whatever? I can go quarterly because I 689 01:30:07,840 --> 01:30:16,000 do supply it to the police department for clea accreditation. So get theirs 690 01:30:12,159 --> 01:30:18,480 quarterly. They can get them however you'd like. 691 01:30:17,120 --> 01:30:22,480 » Yeah, I did see that they raised the trauma response 692 01:30:21,040 --> 01:30:31,000 if they wanted to come for a second time. Was there any money that we use it 693 01:30:25,679 --> 01:30:31,000 for? that more just 694 01:30:41,360 --> 01:30:48,920 motion to authorize supervisor to signal contract subject to legal review. 695 01:30:54,320 --> 01:30:57,480 Thank you. 696 01:30:58,320 --> 01:31:07,760 I did want to let people know that the New York FPCA asked 697 01:31:04,239 --> 01:31:14,560 to write a letter of support for some funding that they receive. Um we had we 698 01:31:12,000 --> 01:31:19,199 have had there has been in the public realm a lot of concern by the FPCA. Uh I 699 01:31:17,679 --> 01:31:23,920 want to clarify we do have a contract with the FPC. So they are available to 700 01:31:21,600 --> 01:31:30,159 help us should there be an animal cruelty case in town. This year we have 701 01:31:27,520 --> 01:31:35,360 contract with them currently. Um but we are thinking that we would need to learn 702 01:31:32,239 --> 01:31:40,480 more before we send letter support. So that was the discussions here is that 703 01:31:38,159 --> 01:31:43,440 we're not we're not sure what their current state I know they haven't been 704 01:31:41,920 --> 01:31:49,360 but we're just not sure what their current status is to be able to um 705 01:31:47,199 --> 01:31:53,760 support their expansion in some way when we're not sure if they fixed their 706 01:31:51,440 --> 01:31:59,520 problem. So, um, I wanted people to know that they are planning some improvements 707 01:31:56,320 --> 01:32:02,560 and we may support that, but we're not going to support it today because we 708 01:32:01,120 --> 01:32:06,719 have >> maybe we can ask them to come to a board 709 01:32:04,320 --> 01:32:11,360 meeting through presation update on their 710 01:32:08,880 --> 01:32:14,400 to the board, >> right? 711 01:32:11,840 --> 01:32:18,800 » Help us with our consideration. Want to also understand 712 01:32:16,800 --> 01:32:24,280 for the residents to understand what they get for the contract that they do. 713 01:32:30,320 --> 01:32:35,480 » All right, that's a good idea. So, are people okay with 714 01:32:42,159 --> 01:32:48,560 » and now that they have been and I'll figure it out. 715 01:32:47,040 --> 01:32:56,000 » Okay, good. >> Um, the next one I guess I need to talk 716 01:32:51,760 --> 01:33:01,679 about this the super um 717 01:32:58,239 --> 01:33:04,679 Yeah, sorry. just reading the little piece. 718 01:33:07,760 --> 01:33:18,800 » Um so we had our open house last night for the uh corridor study and it was to 719 01:33:15,280 --> 01:33:24,480 present the draft plan from um our consultants and it I think based on what 720 01:33:22,719 --> 01:33:31,520 I saw was very well received. We had a great turnout last night. I have got 721 01:33:26,960 --> 01:33:35,360 tons of great photos and we discussed safety 722 01:33:33,360 --> 01:33:40,080 uh walkability and transportation. I know it was a third topic 723 01:33:38,560 --> 01:33:46,400 and so the I was just trying 724 01:33:43,360 --> 01:33:55,280 but the it was I thought it went really well. Um, when will the final draft of 725 01:33:49,760 --> 01:34:01,120 the final I think yeah so we had several members of the committee 726 01:33:56,880 --> 01:34:07,080 that joined us last night. Um, it's all available on our website to 727 01:34:03,120 --> 01:34:07,080 review plan. 728 01:34:07,600 --> 01:34:14,040 So this is with the Empire Statement and they have formed. 729 01:34:25,679 --> 01:34:33,040 » I'd like to make a motion to authorize the supervisor to sign the ESD incentive 730 01:34:29,520 --> 01:34:38,639 proposal development for the Jon strategic plan and finally order. 731 01:34:35,840 --> 01:34:38,639 » Correct. 732 01:34:44,239 --> 01:34:47,239 Okay. 733 01:34:47,679 --> 01:34:51,560 Motion to approve the budget. 734 01:35:01,600 --> 01:35:06,920 » Motion to approve the project transfers as presented by the town. 735 01:35:07,360 --> 01:35:10,360 All 736 01:35:11,520 --> 01:35:16,760 right. Anything else? 737 01:35:26,719 --> 01:35:30,440 I didn't see you doing much 738 01:35:38,560 --> 01:35:46,639 meeting. So the pickle ball courts in the village of M is now open and 739 01:35:44,639 --> 01:35:51,520 available for use. We going there's going to be a grand opening in ribbon 740 01:35:48,080 --> 01:35:56,000 cutting on July 4th at 8:45 a.m. and then it'll be followed up with a 741 01:35:53,920 --> 01:35:59,679 football tournament starting at 9. There's you have sign up for please go 742 01:35:57,600 --> 01:36:03,520 to the village assistant recreation Facebook page for more details on that 743 01:36:01,440 --> 01:36:10,840 process please but we're very excited that those are now available 744 01:36:05,920 --> 01:36:10,840 please come support as well 745 01:36:11,360 --> 01:36:20,800 police consolidation study group met today 746 01:36:16,400 --> 01:36:27,199 on the second I think of July and commission today and had been a long 747 01:36:24,639 --> 01:36:27,199 day 748 01:36:31,520 --> 01:36:39,120 um the study group met last week. We had our first meeting. I thought that it 749 01:36:37,520 --> 01:36:47,600 went a little well. I hope that they feel the same way for those of you that 750 01:36:40,880 --> 01:36:53,920 are were here. We um we discussed identifying the problem that the study 751 01:36:50,960 --> 01:36:58,000 group had already observed. kind of starting from scratch and they quickly 752 01:36:56,639 --> 01:37:03,119 identified that they would like two orders for both the police department as 753 01:37:00,080 --> 01:37:08,480 well as travel. So, we've successfully scheduled the two hours that will be 754 01:37:04,639 --> 01:37:13,199 spending for July 15th at 5:30 that will also include a presentation that evening 755 01:37:10,880 --> 01:37:16,199 and I'll be working to schedule one for tele 756 01:37:16,400 --> 01:37:24,320 uh so that we don't overwhelm July. But I think it's off to a good start and as 757 01:37:22,000 --> 01:37:30,800 promised the summary of the meeting is on the website already. 758 01:37:28,000 --> 01:37:36,800 Thank the July the calendar shows that there's 759 01:37:33,199 --> 01:37:41,320 a commission presentation and know that be rescheduled to sometime in August. 760 01:37:46,239 --> 01:37:53,760 » Oh yes, that's right. I got so excited about pickle ball first 761 01:37:50,719 --> 01:37:57,600 means of the 50th anniversary of our summer show the top that the recreation 762 01:37:55,600 --> 01:38:02,560 department puts on every year for 50 years now. 763 01:37:59,280 --> 01:38:09,000 » I know that's why I keep saying 50 is coming up this year. They are doing 764 01:38:05,119 --> 01:38:09,000 beautiful Carol King 765 01:38:09,840 --> 01:38:18,639 show is coming up. Um that will be due July 16th through July 18th. 766 01:38:17,280 --> 01:38:22,400 Please come and buy please buy your tickets and see the show. It's going to 767 01:38:20,320 --> 01:38:27,840 be very good. And I said it is their 50th anniversary of it. So just in case 768 01:38:24,639 --> 01:38:33,040 you didn't notice 50 it's a big deal. 50 years 1976. So 769 01:38:31,840 --> 01:38:36,719 » lot of talented people. >> Yes. Lot of talented people. A lot of 770 01:38:34,719 --> 01:38:43,239 hard work and effort goes into the production every year. 771 01:38:39,520 --> 01:38:43,239 Please produce your tickets. 772 01:38:43,679 --> 01:38:47,000 Any others? 773 01:38:52,400 --> 01:38:55,960 I'd like to make a motion 774 01:38:58,560 --> 01:39:01,560 favor, 775 01:39:10,560 --> 01:39:13,560 1476 776 01:39:14,400 --> 01:39:17,520 goes up. 777 01:39:18,400 --> 01:39:21,560 You want 778 01:39:26,400 --> 01:39:29,639 » and trash. 779 01:39:40,960 --> 01:39:48,320 » So, uh, want to go in executive session real property. 780 01:39:45,679 --> 01:39:48,320 was substantially affect. 781 01:39:59,199 --> 01:40:03,560 Thank you. Thanks for coming. 782 02:25:10,399 --> 02:25:18,800 twoour blocks. >> Okay. wants to be 783 02:25:15,680 --> 02:25:25,880 by public transparency but I think we have 784 02:25:22,880 --> 02:25:25,880 questions. 785 02:25:30,560 --> 02:25:36,479 » Okay. I would do that. We used to do this. 786 02:25:34,880 --> 02:25:40,880 Okay. >> Um, so we're back 787 02:25:39,040 --> 02:25:47,120 with some great motion to motion to 788 02:25:44,080 --> 02:25:50,680 » favor. All right. >> Thank you very much. 789 02:25:52,880 --> 02:25:57,560 » Question because