[27:11] Everybody
>> welcome board meeting for June 24th
[27:18] and uh the everybody is welcome to join
in person in by Zoom or on Facebook if
[27:25] you would like to join by Zoom. The
instructions are at the beginning of
[27:28] each agenda.
And this will be available um online
[27:32] tomorrow as well.
So um we're going to start with asking
[27:37] counselor
to lead people
[27:45] to the flag
of America and to the republic for it
[27:50] stands nationy
[clears throat]
[27:55] andice for
[28:05] proclamation on the occasion of the
250th anniversary of the United States.
[28:10] Whereas on July 4th, 206,
the United States would celebrate its
[28:15] 250th anniversary, marking the signing
of Declaration of Independence and the
[28:19] founding of our nation. And whereas our
founders established a nation based on
[28:24] equality and alien level rights and the
pursuit of happiness principles that
[28:28] have guided America's enduring legacy of
freedom and achievement. And whereas our
[28:32] system of representation of government
is based on the wisdom of the shony.
[28:37] Whereas local government plays a vital
role in teaching civic values, honoring
[28:41] our history and fostering patriotism and
unity among new generations. Now
[28:45] therefore be a resolve of time mania has
called on the community to join in this
[28:49] celebration reflect on our nation's
journey and recommmit to the founding
[28:53] principles that made America strong and
united and be a further resolve town
[28:58] families proudly commemorates America's
250th anniversary by raising a semi
[29:04] centennial flag at town hall to
celebrate our nation's history and
[29:08] future on July 1st 2026 at noon thank
so hopefully you guys not come
[29:18] Now it's time for open podium. If
anybody would like to speak at open
[29:22] podium, please feel free to come up.
[29:27] » It wasn't.
>> Okay.
[29:43] » Hello. Uh Tom Bassid uh retired real
estate lawyer, longtime town resident.
[29:49] So I I just come before you for uh uh
two purposes. Uh one is to in in both
[29:55] cases I wanted to commend the board for
actions that they have taken. uh the uh
[30:01] one of the one of the actions was to
contract with uh I don't know if there's
[30:06] a contract or not with Maxwell School to
have an analysis made of the options and
[30:12] that's going to be presented
[clears throat] momentarily I guess
[30:16] options as to what to do about the need
for improved facilities with police
[30:23] department and the uh town offices and
uh uh I sort of blew through the very
[30:30] lengthy uh reported
uh that that's going to be touched upon
[30:35] I guess or described momentarily.
It outlines uh uh several different
[30:40] options rehabbing this building. Uh
well, you you you've seen what the
[30:46] objects are and and and the uh there are
cost projections
[30:51] uh impact on taxes and uh uh and so
there pros and cons to uh each option.
[30:59] So you have a difficult task in uh in
deciding ultimately what to do because
[31:06] uh there just like I said there pros and
cons to various optics, different costs,
[31:11] different impacts on taxpayers,
different uh uh priorities. So I I I
[31:17] wish you luck with that. Uh but I'm glad
that you undertook that study because as
[31:23] you know there are two prior proposals
as far as acquisition of land on Berdick
[31:30] Street and then uh basically in the
northeast medical area. Uh those uh
[31:35] plans uh fell through partially as a
result of substantially as a result of
[31:40] lack of citizen input and uh careful
analysis of of the factors that are
[31:47] outlined in this report.
So the second subject uh oh
[31:54] I have two sort of self-deprecating
things to say. One being uh you're here
[31:59] for this report, right? So um I was
rejected by the Maxwell School.
[32:05] [laughter]
[32:08] so long ago when I was trying to get a
dual degree between the law school and
[32:12] the national school but but uh the
national school obviously is the number
[32:16] one uh uh school in the country for
public administration and other such
[32:20] affairs but I don't hold it against you
because my my qualifications were not up
[32:26] to up to par but the second item I
wanted to address was the uh regressive
[32:33] decision on the part of the board uh to
pick Brett as a a a new counselor. I
[32:40] don't know what the process was. What I
know is uh based on resumes uh that uh
[32:47] uh he's well qualified, brings uh an
impressive academic record uh to the
[32:54] board, is a lawyer, not that there's
anything necessarily inherently good or
[32:59] bad about being a lawyer, but he's a
lawyer. [laughter]
[33:04] And I uh suppressed the um bias uh that
I might have had as far as having gone
[33:12] to Dartmouth College, his having gone to
Yale University, I think, and Yale Law
[33:17] School.
All good because the qualifications he
[33:21] he brings are are excellent. But the
other aspect of it was that it it shows
[33:27] a a welcomeness of of diversity uh of
the sort that you're aware of. uh our
[33:33] society is backsliding in certain ways
uh as far in a lot of different areas
[33:39] including uh what had originally been
the successful uh gay rights movement.
[33:45] Uh and uh as the parent of uh of a
daughter who was in a a same-sex marital
[33:53] relationship uh those individuals are
parents of our two granddaughters. I was
[33:58] particularly moved when I saw the video
of the swearing in ceremony uh which was
[34:04] held here where uh Rat's spouse brought
their children and uh it was quite
[34:11] moving but none of that would have
occurred unless you had the willingness
[34:15] to be progressive enough to uh set aside
whatever classes you might have had and
[34:22] uh embrace the diversity which uh our
society is dependent upon. Thanks so
[34:28] much.
[34:42] Yeah, I would.
>> So, I'll just realize
[34:51] » Pat Allen Manoa. So, I I I had the
chance to read through the Maxwell
[34:58] presentation with us.
>> Very good. Very thorough. But I I just
[35:02] had a question, right? I was under the
impression that we're still open to
[35:07] exploring other options. So what we see
in the Maxwell report is a whole buffet
[35:14] of options to consider. Right?
>> But there could be other options that
[35:22] are added to the buffet table to make
our choices that much richer.
[35:27] » Okay. So we're we're all in agreement
with that, right?
[35:30] » There there may be fashion twists. could
be could be 7G. Who who knows? You've
[35:35] got a lot of bright people there
participating and and offering up stuff.
[35:40] But I was just a little alarmed because
one could draw the conclusion from the
[35:45] document that here's your options.
[laughter]
[35:49] And I think that if I may, you can add
to this, but there has to be a student
[35:55] project with an end piece of project.
They had to put something together for
[35:59] this project. That doesn't mean it's
what the study group has to use. They
[36:04] have to put it together.
>> Right.
[36:06] » Right. Okay. [laughter] Because it would
be very easy to misinterpret that
[36:10] presentation of here you go.
>> So, okay. Thank you.
[36:14] » Thank you.
>> It's not the end. It's just a start.
[36:20] » Yes.
>> Anybody else? All right. Well, speaking
[36:24] of presentations,
do you want to say speakers?
[36:28] » Sure. Um, so I'll introduce U. Professor
Pete Wilhox. He was the advisor for the
[36:35] Capstone Group that did this research.
We they worked with us for about three
[36:41] weeks. They went on tours of this
building, our police department,
[36:48] uh, Canelis and Dit Police Departments
and town halls and did quite a bit of
[36:54] research to come up with this report.
Their capstone period ended yesterday
[37:02] and so, Professor Wiloxin is sharing on
their behalf.
[37:16] Okay. Yeah. Thank you everyone for being
here and thank you for the opportunity.
[37:21] Uh I am a standin for uh a student team
who completed this project as part of
[37:27] their master's degree and they graduated
yesterday and got on airplanes this
[37:32] morning. And so you are stuck with me.
They would have been notified. uh but I
[37:37] want to emphasize from the outset that
our task I'm going to go through this in
[37:42] the slice but our task was not to make
any decisions of any kind or limit the
[37:48] community in any way. I should also say
by the way since we're doing
[37:51] introductions that I am a resident of
man uh and my wife teaches in the FM
[37:57] schools. Um so anyway our our mission
was merely to coate the facts as inputs
[38:06] to the community engagement process and
we were tasked with dreaming up some
[38:12] possible options but but not an
exhaustive list. and Scott, the way that
[38:18] we think about it is we put together a
menu. Uh, and so
[38:24] uh since a lot of you have uh already
read u the presentation, I'll go through
[38:31] this pretty quickly, but uh there have
been longstanding issues at the town
[38:36] hall and at the police station. Uh as
probably everyone knows, the town hall
[38:41] is owned by the town. The police station
is east from the village.
[38:46] um board uh started a community
engagement process um including study
[38:52] group uh participants probably many of
you are in the study group
[38:56] » several are
>> yeah so
[38:58] » professor
that microphone there will let the
[39:02] people that are watching you just be
mindful when you turn
[39:05] » oh
[39:08] » um thank you uh and so so our our task
was to pull together information.
[39:17] Uh and the key questions that we were
trying to address are what are the key
[39:21] issues uh at those locations? What are
some ways to prioritize those? What are
[39:27] some options for addressing them? And
how can this information be communicated
[39:33] transparently and accessibly to the
community? And so our overall process,
[39:39] this again is a slightly condensed
version of what you've seen on the web
[39:42] if you've uh looked at the web is as
Ingred mentioned uh there was a
[39:48] community listening session. The team
did tours uh of both the manlas
[39:54] facilities and similar facilities in Dit
and Camilis. Um we looked into legal
[40:00] requirements uh categorized
uh the issues by uh type and prairie
[40:09] developed a preliminary set of options
and did a preliminary cost benefit
[40:14] analysis of addressing those options and
we put everything on the web. So uh
[40:21] again I think this is uh available to
you but uh this um
[40:29] the students put together a website
which includes uh information from this
[40:35] presentation. what we set out to do, uh
how how we thought about the project,
[40:42] the options,
uh how they compare, and then uh a whole
[40:48] menu of what the problems are and which
options fix which problems. Uh and then
[40:53] at the bottom is all of the documents
and analysis that we did. So, there's a
[41:00] costbenefit analysis spreadsheet.
There's a PDF guide uh to it. There's
[41:06] information about what we learned about
uh ADA requirements uh and what we
[41:12] learned about nonADA
uh issues,
[41:17] a full slate of uh options to address
all the issues, communication
[41:21] strategies, all this is available. And
then at the bottom is a list of all the
[41:27] sources we use. So if anybody really
wants to go in a deep dive, uh they can
[41:32] look at the spreadsheet which shows how
all of this uh fits together or go
[41:37] through the original documents.
Uh okay. Uh so uh whoa whoa whoa. Um
[41:48] okay. So one of the things we learned a
bunch of things from the community
[41:52] listening session. uh it was super
useful. One of the things that came
[41:56] through very clearly was that people
wanted a list, a clear list of what the
[41:59] problems were. Uh they wanted
transparency. Safety was a priority. ADA
[42:06] accessibility was a priority. Decision
should be data driven. So we should
[42:10] provide as much data as we could. People
were wary I think is a fair word to say
[42:16] about tax increases. Uh and
uh the priority, sorry there's a zoom
[42:25] thing in my way here.
[42:30] Uh the priority was making everything
functional but not necessarily
[42:33] impressive or attractive. And there was
a question about how does maners compare
[42:38] with other towns. Uh so uh if you
haven't seen the uh handout, I'll go
[42:44] through uh go through this quickly, but
we did some comparison uh of adjacent
[42:49] towns. The orange bars are Manliest. Uh
the blue bars are Dwit, Camilis, and
[42:54] Cicero. And of the four towns, Manliest
has the largest population.
[43:00] Uh it also has the largest area which is
uh relevant for among other things
[43:07] policing.
Uh we looked at some financial variables
[43:12] as well. Household income and the size
of the tax base of the four communities.
[43:18] The median household income in Manas is
highest. Although to be sure, manus is
[43:25] very heterogeneous, right? So that's the
median income. Uh but there certainly
[43:29] are people at other ends of the
spectrum. and it has uh the second
[43:34] highest tax base.
Uh we looked at the town's budget
[43:40] compared to others uh and Mammoth's town
budget is about the same as Milis and
[43:46] Cicero, considerably lower in DIT. Uh
and the property tax revenue uh is
[43:54] lowest uh of all four towns.
The team did some additional comparisons
[44:02] by visiting facilities and they just for
reference new has a larger town staff.
[44:08] It has considerably higher security has
bulletproof glass and doors,
[44:13] interconnected private workspaces so
that people can move back and forth
[44:17] without having to go into a public
space. Uh it's fully ADA compliant.
[44:23] Camilis has what the team found to be a
super important thing. They have a
[44:29] full-time building and maintenance
supervisor whose job is to fix stuff and
[44:38] and they they just went through like a
whole list of things that this person
[44:42] had fixed
uh around the buildings that saved a ton
[44:47] of money, right? So, that's just a thing
to put in the back of mind. Uh Primos
[44:51] has higher security. They have
electronic blocks and badging systems
[44:55] and they are committed to becoming ADA
compliant including uh an elevator
[44:59] retrofit.
Okay, so that's the town comparison. We
[45:05] then uh tried to make a comprehensive
list of all the issues that we could
[45:09] find from either talking to staff,
talking to the community, reading the
[45:14] previous documents that had evaluated
problems. We grouped everything into
[45:18] four categories. accessibility, safety
and security, operational issues and
[45:26] electrical system issues. And then we
put rank them into three priorities. Uh
[45:31] the highest priority are things that we
believe are legally required. Uh the
[45:36] second pri uh category are things that
we think are high priority to fix, but
[45:45] of course it's up to the community uh to
do. And then the lowest are things that
[45:50] uh one might ideally fix uh if resources
uh were not a problem.
[45:57] Here is a quick review of some of the
issues. So for accessibility
[46:02] uh legally required for ADA compliance
would be improved door handles, uh signs
[46:08] with rail. Uh things which are not
strictly required uh include uh some
[46:16] additional automatic doors and an
elevator or lift to help people uh who
[46:22] have challenges to get from one floor
with their lane to another. As probably
[46:26] everyone knows that's not legally
required because it's possible for a
[46:29] person to go outside and go around to
the other entrance. So that's why it's
[46:33] on it should fix, but it certainly is uh
inconvenient
[46:38] uh for people who have any kind of
mobility issues. Um also adjusting
[46:43] counter heights so that they're
wheelchair accessible
[46:47] is on that list. Uh for safety and
security uh in town hall, uh improved
[46:54] security uh like batch door scanners,
doors that lock from the inside. Uh this
[47:01] if you're not familiar with it in our
modern world is an essential thing like
[47:05] at SU we've had u swatting incidents
where people called and said there were
[47:11] active shooters in the building and it
we discovered that people couldn't lock
[47:15] themselves in their office, right? They
could only they could be locked into the
[47:20] office but you couldn't lock the office
to prevent someone else from coming in.
[47:23] That's a serious security concern. And
so one of the things that we think
[47:27] should be fixed is door should be
lockable on the inside uh just in case
[47:33] of that kind of an incident. Also,
another thing that uh should be ideally
[47:38] fixed is this. This picture will either
be really familiar to you if you know
[47:42] town hall or it be kind of opaque. But
this is showing downstairs and it's uh
[47:48] when court is in session, uh people who
have to go to the restroom have to walk
[47:53] behind the security officer, which is
clearly uh not uh a great uh security
[48:01] situation. So, that's uh another item to
consider.
[48:06] uh on operational which is kind of a
catch-all category. Uh state law
[48:10] requires towns to have secure record
holding facilities that can ensure that
[48:16] records are not damaged and are
protected from the elements. Uh and uh
[48:23] town hall could certainly use an upgrade
in that. Uh also there's uh
[48:32] space uh shortages uh heating uh
problems in some of the offices uh that
[48:38] are on the ideal fixed. Uh there were
also concerns raised uh which is this is
[48:44] a little out of our uh daily work really
but there were concerns raised about the
[48:50] age and uh integrity of the heating and
ventilating and air conditioning system
[48:56] uh and some of the electrical wiring
where there were um breakers tripped
[49:02] from seemingly innocuous uh loads being
plugged in.
[49:08] So to come back to the real point, what
we did is we took all of these things
[49:12] together and we made a menu. So the
analogy with a buffet was perfect. So we
[49:19] made a menu and so this is all the items
uh that we identified at town hall as
[49:25] concerns.
um they're colorcoded by things that uh
[49:29] we think are required by law to be
fixed, things that um would be desirable
[49:34] to fix, and then things that could be
fixed uh if there were resources
[49:41] available uh and uh and and their
categories, safety, security,
[49:48] operational and so on. So these are all
the items uh at town hall.
[49:55] Uh at the police station uh the ADA
doors and uh at the police station
[50:02] restrooms uh are required. Uh there are
some hallways which are not ADA
[50:09] accessible
and then uh ideally
[50:14] the students regard this as ideal. I
think it probably should rank higher
[50:18] than that, but there are places there
are stairs where if a disabled person
[50:23] arrives at the police station, someone
has to get the person out and carry them
[50:28] up the stairs, right? And sometimes it
could be a person who is uh under
[50:34] arrest. And so that clearly uh seems to
be a priority. Uh
[50:41] uh there are also uh worn asbestous
tiles uh in the floor uh which should be
[50:48] fixed to prevent people from being
exposed to asbestosis.
[50:52] Uh there are limited holding cells. So
it's quite common for there to be more
[50:57] people who need to be held in the police
station than there are cells. Uh if
[51:02] you're unfamiliar with the police
station, this uh line uh marks how far
[51:08] somebody who is in one of the cells uh
can reach. Uh and uh for officers to be
[51:15] able to get past the cells when they're
full safely, they have to turn sideways
[51:20] and squeeze through that narrow uh
opening. Um, also another issue that as
[51:26] you probably all know, the police
station, which is leased from the town,
[51:31] was once an elementary school and it has
huge windows. Uh, and through the
[51:36] windows, anybody in the public, if the
windows are not if the shapes are not
[51:40] drawn, can see everything that's going
on uh in the police station. So
[51:44] improving the privacy of the windows
even something as simple as glass lock
[51:49] um would be uh a big step forward.
>> Uh the secure record holding uh rule
[51:57] applies to police records which are
currently stored in shipping containers.
[52:02] So that's uh a thing that we consider to
be a legally required uh upgrade. Uh the
[52:10] police station has a severe lack of
space. They have um
[52:16] things stored in places where like like
in the roof of the garage where really
[52:21] it'd be better not to have things
stored. They have child-siz bathrooms
[52:26] because it was an elementary school,
right? Uh child size means both both low
[52:32] and small. Okay. Uh the ceiling in the
garage is not high enough to lift the
[52:39] car high high enough for a mechanic to
go fully underneath. So there's an
[52:43] injury risk uh when somebody is working
on a car. Uh there's no designated space
[52:49] for securing evidence. Um
if the police station was able to raise
[52:55] the lift higher, they would be able to
do more of the maintenance work on
[52:59] patrol cars. Right now they have to send
it out for maintenance. the cars out for
[53:03] maintenance and anything that's serious
in the undercarriage. Um,
[53:08] there's not very much space in the
parking lot for the officers cars, the
[53:13] patrol cars, and the undercover cars
plus uh visitors.
[53:19] Um,
so here is the police station name. Uh,
[53:23] so again, there's the list uh of things
that uh larger space from pounded
[53:29] vehicles. There's a little more detail
in here. same color scheme. The thing
[53:33] that I took away from this when we did
the study is the police station has way
[53:37] more issues, right, of the two
buildings, it's it it's just clear in
[53:43] almost every dimension that it has um
more needs. Um
[53:52] okay, so we were tasked with coming up
with some ideas, but not a complete set
[53:57] of options. These are just ideas. And so
uh we put together five. Uh the first
[54:05] one is to do the minimum uh just fix the
urgent problems with ADA compliance in
[54:12] both buildings.
Option B is to shoot for the moon, do a
[54:16] full rebuild, bring both facilities into
one integrated building with town hall,
[54:21] police, and the court all in one
building. And then we had uh three
[54:26] options uh that differed from that. Uh,
option C is rebuild the police station
[54:33] and to renovate town hall but keep the
building. Option D is to purchase a new
[54:40] building for the police station and
renovate town hall. And option E is to
[54:45] purchase a new building for the police
station and do the minimum renovations
[54:49] on town hall. So it's essentially D for
the police and A for town hall.
[54:56] Uh so these will be hard to read at a
distance but in the presentation that's
[55:01] online there are space diagrams. These
aren't for plans but they're diagrams of
[55:07] how much space is available in each of
the buildings uh now and how much there
[55:12] would be under each of the plans. And so
uh this is option A which is do the
[55:17] minimum and the buildings here and the
approximate uh square footage devoted to
[55:23] each function are are the current
layout. Uh and in a minute I'll show you
[55:30] exactly what's addressed in option A.
But option A is to do the minimum. uh it
[55:36] would provide immediate compliance and
safety fixes and it would avoid it's
[55:40] it's it would avoid having to issue new
debt. It's not it's not cheap, but it's
[55:47] um it's an inexpensive road, but there
would be a bunch of remaining uh
[55:53] challenges. The police would be in an
undersized building. The lease on the
[55:57] police station would continue. The
police and the court remain separate,
[56:01] which is not ideal uh in different
buildings.
[56:05] uh each of the buildings has many
persistent problems and a thing that's
[56:08] really important is that this kicks the
can down the road.
[56:13] Option A doesn't fix a lot of problems
which will ultimately need to be fixed,
[56:19] right? It just means we don't do it now.
We have to keep maintaining the
[56:23] buildings uh along the way and
eventually uh rebuild them.
[56:28] Option D is a full rebuild. It solves
all of the problems on the list. It's
[56:33] one modern building. It ends the police
station lease. The police facility is
[56:39] properly sized according to
international standards. Police and the
[56:43] court are coll-located which is an
improvement in security.
[56:47] Town hall can be sold and put back on
the tax role. Um but it's expensive. It
[56:54] has the largest upfront cost. It would
need a large site about seven acres we
[56:58] think and obviously would require bond.
Um,
[57:04] option C, uh, is to just build a
building for the police. Uh, so that's
[57:09] this new police building over here on
the left and renovate town hall. Uh, so
[57:15] this would um fix all problems that the
police that we have and it would uh fix
[57:22] the problems in town hall. It would also
free up the court space in town hall for
[57:28] other purposes. Um
the downside is it requires two
[57:32] buildings to maintain rather than one
which is the case in option B
[57:38] and it's important to remember that ren
a full renovation of town hall has some
[57:42] risks associated with it like it could
be that there's asbestous discovered in
[57:46] the building and asbestous remediation
could be very expensive. Um
[57:53] okay option D [clears throat] would be
to purchase an existing building. uh and
[57:59] renovate town hall. Uh so that has many
of the advantages uh of the option C
[58:07] except that the building doesn't have to
be built from scratch. It does have to
[58:11] be converted and the conversion cost is
a big wild card there. Um, we picked a
[58:18] uh just a rough size building looking at
at uh commercial buildings uh around
[58:24] Bameas of 25,000 square ft which is a
little undersized for the police uh
[58:29] station but it's much better than what
they have now. Um and there would still
[58:34] be retrofit risks at town hall.
Option E uh is to uh do option D for the
[58:44] police building uh buy a building and
convert it to a new police station and
[58:49] then do the minimum renovations here. Um
and uh
[58:58] uh I'll show you the cost in a second.
Um
[59:03] that has uh the lowest lifetime cost. Um
but it leaves a lot of things uh
[59:11] unresolved because it makes only the
minimum changes here.
[59:16] Okay. So so they go back to the menus.
This is going to be impossible to read
[59:21] here but remember it's in all the stuff
that's available on the web. Uh and also
[59:28] you know both where I live and where I
work so [laughter] you can ask me
[59:33] questions.
Okay. Uh so this is an extended version
[59:38] of the mat of the menu and it just shows
like under A B C D and E which things
[59:44] are resolved uh by those options and
those are not only which things are
[59:49] resolved but they're which things we
tried to factor into the costbenefit
[59:53] analysis.
Uh here's how the different options uh
[1:00:00] address issues at the police station. Uh
you can see that A is the minimum, B is
[1:00:05] all of the options for all of the
issues.
[1:00:10] Um okay, I'm going to show you the cost
now in just a second, but there are a
[1:00:14] couple of key things that are important
to know about the cost. Um and the first
[1:00:20] is that the do minimum options on uh
town hall or town hall in the police
[1:00:26] station when we scored those we took
into account that eventually an upgrade
[1:00:33] will need to happen and we put that in
at 30 years. So do minimum does not
[1:00:38] avoid having to do the major overhauls.
It just postpones it. And so for for
[1:00:45] option A which was the initial uh do
minimum uh what we factored in is a
[1:00:50] comprehensive build of the police
station and town hall in year 30 and we
[1:00:56] use the cost of option B uh for that in
year 30. For option E where the police
[1:01:03] get a new building up front. We factored
in a full renovation of town hall uh in
[1:01:08] year 30 uh and used the cost from the
EIP study that was done uh couple years
[1:01:14] ago. No additional work needed on the
police station.
[1:01:19] Okay, so this is how things stacked up
and uh this is uh probably a little hard
[1:01:25] to read on the screen, but the options
are listed in the same order that I just
[1:01:30] went through them. So A is do minimum.
The left bars that are kind of in a
[1:01:35] muddy orange color are uh the upfront
cost of that option, what you'd have to
[1:01:41] pay to carry them out uh immediately.
The blue bars are the lifetime present
[1:01:48] value cost. So it's it's today's cost
factoring in what you do today, but also
[1:01:53] all the maintenance that you'd have to
do over time and the eventual rebuild.
[1:01:57] So, so doing uh option A we think would
cost about a million dollars now, but
[1:02:05] it's life cycle cost equivalent today is
$24 million, right? Because a lot of
[1:02:12] this deferred um maintenance would
eventually have to be done.
[1:02:17] The full bill rebuild is obviously much
more expensive uh right up front, $47
[1:02:24] million and then in count counting all
life cycle cost 51.
[1:02:29] Uh the split uh version uh
uh which is a full rebuild of the police
[1:02:37] station and a full renovation of town
hall uh comes in um slightly cheaper uh
[1:02:44] but not a lot.
uh D and E come in much cheaper than
[1:02:49] either of those. So purchasing a new
building for the police department
[1:02:54] uh comes in with an upfront cost of $20
million $21 million and its life cycle
[1:03:00] cost is only slightly higher than that.
>> Can I ask you a question?
[1:03:04] » Yeah.
>> The 21 million indeed is that a new an
[1:03:08] existing building that has to be
retrofit for the police department?
[1:03:11] » Yes.
>> Okay. So that's purchase and upgrades.
[1:03:15] » It's purchase and and in our case of
what the upgrade cost would be, which I
[1:03:20] think is like $6 million in the
spreadsheet.
[1:03:24] » Yeah.
>> One of the things that [clears throat]
[1:03:25] we we just to emphasize that we don't
want to put our thumbs on the scale here
[1:03:31] even though I live here, right?
>> That the we we provide this a detailed
[1:03:36] spreadsheet. It has many pages and you
can change clearly labeled assumptions
[1:03:41] that you can change. Right? So if you
think, well, what happens if the
[1:03:44] retrofit cost for an existing building
is $7 million? You can just change the
[1:03:49] six to seven and see how it works,
right? But what if it's only five? Um,
[1:03:55] and then this thing out here at the end
where uh you purchase a new building
[1:04:01] for the police and retrofit it uh and
then defer all of the things that are
[1:04:07] not absolutely necessary for town hall.
That comes in with um a low upfront
[1:04:13] cost, a higher life cycle cost because
of things just getting deferred. Um,
[1:04:20] okay. Then we land on this diagram,
which is either awesome or awful
[1:04:26] depending on your taste in diagrams.
Okay. And it's probably on the awful
[1:04:31] side because it's not very big uh for
you. But on the horizontal axis is
[1:04:36] upfront cost. Uh so here is uh option A.
It has a very low upfront cost. Here is
[1:04:43] E. Here is D. Here are B and C. on the
vertical axis is the life cycle cost is
[1:04:51] the present value in today's dollars uh
taking into account the eventual cost
[1:04:56] that will need to be paid. Um in the
dream world you'd be close to the origin
[1:05:02] in both right you'd have low upfront
cost and low life cycle cost. Okay the
[1:05:09] size of the circle
shows how many of the issues are
[1:05:13] addressed right so so A is pretty low
cost it doesn't address very many
[1:05:19] issues. Okay. Uh B the full rebuild
solves all the problems. It's also the
[1:05:26] most expensive on both measures.
Um the one
[1:05:33] so so our thumbs are not on the scale,
but the thing that stood out to us is D.
[1:05:39] D addresses almost everything, right?
That's uh buying and renovating uh a
[1:05:46] building for the police and then
renovating town hall.
[1:05:51] Um, it does not have by any means the
lowest upfront cost, but it does have
[1:05:56] among the lowest life cycle cost because
it avoids the kicking the can down the
[1:06:01] road problem. Okay. Um, what I mean by
kicking the can down the road, just to
[1:06:06] be super clear about this, is I have my
my so my car suffers from rust and salt,
[1:06:18] right? And I keep getting hammered by I
I I need a new catalytic converter like
[1:06:24] some some of you have had this
experience, right? I need a new this and
[1:06:29] that and the other thing. Uh and so the
question is do I hang out of the car and
[1:06:34] keep paying all that stuff and then
eventually buy a new car? At what point
[1:06:39] do I buy a new car? And so the um the
the life cycle cost is important because
[1:06:48] you know there's a bunch of stuff that
is eventually going to have to be fixed.
[1:06:53] So our key takeaways there are 32 issues
of varying urgency. The police station
[1:06:59] has the largest number of needs. Um we
have five options but um there can be
[1:07:06] many many more. You can mix and match
things from the menu. um the low upfront
[1:07:12] cost. You should remember that there
will be higher lifetime cost down the
[1:07:17] road and then we put everything on the
web.
[1:07:21] So uh thank you for listening and are
there any questions I can answer?
[1:07:27] » So are we is it open meeting to the
public or there questions for the board?
[1:07:32] » Questions first.
[1:07:36] We um
I know that a couple of us were at the
[1:07:41] presentation
last week, so we did get quite a few of
[1:07:45] our questions answered already.
>> Um
[1:07:49] and
but for those of you that weren't there,
[1:07:54] we we already asked we asked many
questions, but so not that we don't have
[1:07:58] questions that they were already.
[clears throat]
[1:08:07] I would set a time on that
maybe for the benefit
[1:08:14] as that you guys asked the presentation
helpful and help me to remember what I
[1:08:19] asked. I just I had a couple clarifying
questions. Um I think I asked if
[1:08:26] tax says value included commercial
buildings
[1:08:29] » which is yes
>> it did was my guess. Sure.
[1:08:34] » Um, and I asked a question. I thought it
was interesting that the tax assess
[1:08:39] value and then the resources that we
have for our facilities were so
[1:08:46] different from each other compared to
the other communities.
[1:08:50] » Could you identify actual properties
that were 25 to 31,000 square feet that
[1:08:55] were for sale currently in the Dallas?
>> We did not. We we we looked at a sort of
[1:09:00] quick inventory of buildings, but um
didn't do that,
[1:09:06] » but they weren't necessarily
>> right.
[1:09:10] » Yeah.
>> Right. That wasn't their role in the
[1:09:13] time frame.
>> Yeah. disappointed.
[1:09:16] » I think we actually said we didn't
include that on purpose because we
[1:09:20] didn't want to but that's where the
study group and toward the end of our
[1:09:26] process. We we could pick up with that
if we chose to.
[1:09:30] » Just one additional question. You heard
you you also included your heard cost
[1:09:35] analysis estimated tax increases from
household.
[1:09:38] » Yes. And option A when we do the
absolute bare minimum says Z tax
[1:09:43] increases for everyone although
eventually I assume that would actually
[1:09:48] change because there' be a $23 million
hit over the long term. So I'm curious
[1:09:53] how you got these estimates because it
doesn't seem to drive where eventually a
[1:09:58] bill will come due to nothing. And then
on the option D and E, on D, for
[1:10:05] instance, there's an $86 a year tax
increase for every median household. I'm
[1:10:09] curious where you got that number and
how long that $86 increase happens. Is
[1:10:14] that over 30 years? Does it eventually
go away?
[1:10:16] » Yeah.
>> Or does that $86 cover the upfront cost
[1:10:20] over the course of two years? Yeah. So,
so the um so those numbers are all all
[1:10:25] as as it sounds I inferred they're all
based on um paying for the upfront cost
[1:10:33] uh over um I think 30 years. I I have to
look at the spreadsheet. Uh and the
[1:10:39] reason that a comes in with zero is
because we assumed that that it wouldn't
[1:10:46] require a bond issue to pay for that.
That they wouldn't actually it was it's
[1:10:51] a million dollars and that that could be
covered some other way. All the other
[1:10:55] ones is basically
>> other four options.
[1:11:00] » Yeah. Yeah. There's borrowing for the
other four options and you look at what
[1:11:03] the um what the tax burden would be for
household.
[1:11:14] » Yeah. I just had a quick question. I
noticed in the you guys discussed the
[1:11:18] storage issue for the records of both
the town hall and police station. This
[1:11:21] might be a question the court as well.
Um, is it an option for that um to be
[1:11:26] outsourced entirely to a private entity
so that wouldn't have to be included in
[1:11:30] the
>> be outsourced
[1:11:33] » and the record storage like it looked
like there was a lot of like long-term
[1:11:36] record storage and there are private
companies contract with just
[1:11:40] » I think you have a payment in perpetuity
like with a police station they leasing
[1:11:44] from the village and I don't think we
would favor that.
[1:11:47] » Yeah, I'm I'm just curious that as an
option that was examined because I know
[1:11:50] that there are towns that do that. They
don't haveite. They don't have that
[1:11:53] offside.
>> It can also be superior for security
[1:11:56] purposes such as like a fire,
>> right?
[1:12:00] » We we did not understand that. The other
thing that maybe people on the board
[1:12:05] know, but that I was curious about is
what if you digitize the records, do you
[1:12:11] escape from this problem?
[1:12:15] » We've had a large undertaking as far as
digitizing everything. Um they're almost
[1:12:22] complete with that whole process, but
there's still a little that must
[1:12:30] » and some things like our police records
can't be digitized,
[1:12:34] » right? The police records are obvious a
little different than the town. I was
[1:12:37] just curious as an option.
>> We are digitizing a lot of record.
[1:12:51] Did anybody else
[1:12:56] » a question on financing? Uh are there
any available uh state or federal uh
[1:13:03] grants sourcing for this type of work
particularly as far as the police
[1:13:08] station or or the uh outfitting of the
police station. something to reduce the
[1:13:16] need to bond the whole.
>> That is an excellent question. Uh the
[1:13:23] the team talked with people in the town
who have been writing grants on
[1:13:28] different things, but we did not do a
comprehensive search to see if there
[1:13:32] were uh grant agencies that we could use
to cover some of that. That's a good
[1:13:37] question. Not answered by us.
[1:13:43] that wasn't part of their project that
can still
[1:13:46] » identify that right. I
>> mean the assumption is that would all be
[1:13:50] explored.
>> Yeah.
[1:13:52] » Yeah. We we just to be super clear we
did not find that there aren't we didn't
[1:13:57] look
>> right.
[1:14:00] » So first let me introduce myself. I'm a
former colleague of yours from you albe
[1:14:05] it in a lesser program. Oh, I don't know
about that. But uh the program I was in
[1:14:13] is one that is focused on communication
and I'm channeling a little bit of what
[1:14:20] Pat was asking in the open forum and
that is it seems that your framing of
[1:14:28] the questions and the issues itself is
[1:14:35] influencing what we want us to perceive
as the choices.
[1:14:40] And let me give you an example. For
example, you said the first option is do
[1:14:45] minimum as opposed to saying something
like address the immediate problems. And
[1:14:50] and the reason that's important is
because the way you ask the question
[1:14:55] influences the way you answer it.
>> You know who Franks is, the Republican
[1:15:00] focus group guru. You know, he got us to
understand that the estate tax became
[1:15:06] the death tax. And there's a big
difference in how we understand that
[1:15:10] kind of text. So my concern is partially
the way the framing occurs in the asking
[1:15:17] of questions.
>> That's a very valid point. I I um I
[1:15:22] think you're absolutely right that that
should have been named differently. Uh
[1:15:27] because the intent was
>> the intent was address the stuff that
[1:15:33] seems to be legally required. Uh, and it
does sound pjorative to say do the
[1:15:38] minimum. That that was a mistake on our
part in how we phrased it.
[1:15:43] » By the way, I do applaud the work. I I
have a question, but I'm part of the
[1:15:48] study group, so I can post.
>> No, you can. Well,
[1:15:53] » two quick questions. Um, the data around
the needs of the police department. Is
[1:15:57] that around using the current
recommendations for the size of police
[1:16:01] based on staff or how does that come to?
Was it having to do with the actual
[1:16:05] functionality of the police guard house
or is it more of just here's general
[1:16:09] guidelines that
>> for the size for the for the sort of
[1:16:14] desirable size of the police department
that came from uh an a recommendation
[1:16:20] from an international organization on on
how many square feet there should be per
[1:16:25] employee uh in a typical police station.
So that's where that came from. So think
[1:16:30] of it as a as a rough guideline. uh but
not a hard number.
[1:16:35] » Then my my second question is is cost
versus issue solved. The percent solved
[1:16:40] is just percent of the checklist but
when I'm looking at the thing the you
[1:16:44] know 10% solved
>> is all the critical items have been
[1:16:48] solved. So so this I found this very
confusing because it's not qualitative.
[1:16:53] It's more of just
>> x% versus and it's x% now versus x% over
[1:16:58] the 30 years running 30 years.
So I found this very confusing but they
[1:17:04] didn't highlight that actually critical
issues will be all solved under these
[1:17:08] issues. It's it's what we do now to
understand what we need to do over the
[1:17:12] world instead of years. So it's
>> that's an excellent point that they're
[1:17:16] not in in my field I'm an environmental
economist and in my field I would say
[1:17:21] that we failed to weight the problems by
their severity.
[1:17:27] » Right. And so we we could use a
different
[1:17:30] » uh icon. No. Yeah, the spreadsheets and
everything. I'm looking forward to all
[1:17:35] the data use. It's called out there
right. I just
[1:17:38] » Yeah,
>> by this like it looks like based on the
[1:17:41] answer there's not
[1:17:52] » anybody.
uh you know I'm curious when we talk
[1:17:56] about those issues that are vigorally
required mandated to face uh what's the
[1:18:00] kind of consequence for kicking the can
on that it's a two-part question that's
[1:18:05] the first part of the question second
part is um when you do your analysis on
[1:18:09] what these costs are going to look like
in 30 years if there is a cost
[1:18:12] associated with that whether it's
opportunity or whether it's actually you
[1:18:16] know we're getting hit by actual fines
is that included in that analysis
[1:18:20] » yeah so um
So there's there's two ways to think
[1:18:24] about what the costs are of not
addressing those. So one of them is that
[1:18:28] there's a risk of a lawsuit and we have
some numbers in the spreadsheet that
[1:18:34] include an estimate of the risk of a
lawsuit for not addressing some of these
[1:18:40] things. The more important thing I think
this is just me not the team is that
[1:18:46] some of these things that are not
addressed are becoming increasingly
[1:18:49] important to a community that's aging.
uh like the accessibility needs, right?
[1:18:55] There may not ever be a lawsuit, but
there'll be people who can't come to
[1:18:58] town hall because they have mobility
issues. Um and you know, we can I I
[1:19:06] won't go through the litany of like my
neighbor this and my neighbor that, but
[1:19:09] that that would be my concern is is that
it would be
[1:19:14] the record storage thing. I think I
think the record storage thing I'm not
[1:19:19] quite sure what the consequences are,
but that is a state law and the ADA
[1:19:24] thing is it's mostly
that you run a risk of a lawsuit or you
[1:19:30] just don't serve everybody in the
community. So,
[1:19:37] » and
[1:19:40] um real quick, so in in the when you
were doing the comparison, I didn't see
[1:19:44] clay listed here.
>> Yeah, they didn't choose every time. So
[1:19:49] many do it and closest to us. Clay is
bigger.
[1:19:54] » Okay. So, this was a a size comparison.
>> Yes. So, so we didn't do like
[1:20:02] these are the ones that are like our
[1:20:07] and then I saw here so 30 years seems
[1:20:14] » obvious
[1:20:18] but I'm more used to forecast flow now
no greater than 10 years is is there a
[1:20:24] specific reason you chose 30 years.
>> We
[1:20:30] need a new roof in 30 years.
>> You need a new roof.
[1:20:33] » Yeah. I mean, it's partly based on how
long this building has been in
[1:20:36] operation. And the team did factor in
new roofs and boilers and things like
[1:20:41] that along the way. And actually, I I I
forgot I didn't answer one of your
[1:20:45] questions about So, what we assume in
the the spreadsheet at the moment
[1:20:50] assumes no relative cost inflation in
the cost of addressing this. So
[1:20:56] essentially what we did is we treated
all of the future costs as though they
[1:21:01] were in 2026.
If you think the construction costs are
[1:21:05] going to go up relative to other things,
you can put that into the spreadsheet
[1:21:10] and take that into account. But um
>> and then you have one.
[1:21:14] » Yeah, sorry. I was going to say one
other thing. The the other reason that
[1:21:19] we put it 30 years out is that if we put
if we put the full retrofit closer in,
[1:21:26] right, it it it makes the the cost of
even option A, which is the minimal
[1:21:35] compliant, sorry, address the immediate
needs. It it starts making that look
[1:21:42] almost as big as a full retrofit, which
um
[1:21:49] which we felt would look like we were
putting our thumb on the scale in a way
[1:21:55] that we didn't want to. We wanted to be
optimistic about how long the uh
[1:22:01] renovation could be delayed.
[1:22:06] » Okay. And then in the spreadsheet I
haven't taken a look at but you have
[1:22:10] 30-year net present value cost after
benefits. Do you have the quantitative
[1:22:16] data on the benefits? Yeah, there there
are estimates in the spreadsheet uh of
[1:22:23] of a range of benefits which is
reduction in lawsuit risk, improvement
[1:22:27] in uh productivity of people who have
more space uh to work uh a bunch of
[1:22:35] those benefits or in the spreadsheet.
>> Get that spreadsheet.
[1:22:39] » Yeah, it's online. Yeah. Yeah.
>> Okay. Thanks everybody. Thank you for
[1:22:43] participating. Thank you very much.
[1:22:52] Please extend our appreciation as well.
[1:22:58] » Yeah,
>> I told them he should they should get
[1:23:02] ace. [laughter]
[1:23:07] » Okay. Well, let's move on to some of our
regular business now. So, I guess I
[1:23:12] would.
So, it's time to head our summer staff
[1:23:17] to the recreation department's programs,
the playground, and the swim and all the
[1:23:21] other things that they do. So, with
that, I'd like to make a motion to
[1:23:26] approve the 2026 recreation staff as
presented.
[1:23:31] I love you
any
[1:23:39] direction. So, we have, as I believe
people know, the town contracts for the
[1:23:46] trash vendor to take care of our trash
brush and that the members of the
[1:23:51] community groups choose to participate
with that um pay a fee that always is
[1:23:56] cut their annual tax bill, but it is not
a tax. It is a fee to cash. Um, and so
[1:24:03] there is a agreement we have. it's
expiring again this year and we have to
[1:24:08] put it out bid again for another period
of time to get that vendor or a
[1:24:13] different vendor to come forward. So we
have um built a
[1:24:19] um bidding process in compliance with
procurement rules and that would we want
[1:24:26] to [clears throat]
um put that out now the bids would be
[1:24:29] due in August we would then evaluate
them be able to put them in the budget
[1:24:34] for 2027. So that is the cycle
that's
[1:24:42] » only our green right
>> for only our green waist
[1:24:47] » yeah just brush
>> our trash okay so
[1:24:54] » this is regular people's trash
>> when the last time we did this
[1:24:59] » five years
>> five years ago and how many people
[1:25:01] return
>> last year last time
[1:25:04] » last
just one.
[1:25:07] » And we all see that problem in there.
>> Yeah.
[1:25:10] » And so are we going to instruct anybody
to reach out to companies and advise
[1:25:15] them that we have?
>> Yeah. So we have to but
[1:25:23] the documents are publicly available to
anybody who access
[1:25:31] authoriz
to publish the bid information for
[1:25:35] collection and disposal of brush and
collection and disposal of refues
[1:25:39] rubbish garbage and recyclables and
publish the bid openings for August 5th
[1:25:43] at 10 a.m.
All in favor
[1:25:53] um I can also speak out of parking signs
and I want to clarify that it's actually
[1:25:58] a little bit expanding from that. So for
any of you who have driven by sweet road
[1:26:03] on a nice day the three halls woods has
become very popular and there have been
[1:26:08] some problems with the days of and um
traffic safety and damage. So, um, we
[1:26:14] have talked to Sweet Road is county
road. I spoke to Dave N this afternoon
[1:26:20] and, um, he had previously talked with
the highway superintendent county for
[1:26:27] permission to put road parking this
side. So, people will be allowed on the
[1:26:32] street on one side, but not on the other
side so that the traffic is clearer and
[1:26:37] there's a better access to the driveway.
And the neighbors requested signs and I
[1:26:43] would have highway guidance if it's 200
feet or 500 feet, you know, saying
[1:26:47] entrance
sooner coming off of this way or
[1:26:50] something on both ways so that people
would know there's way they might be
[1:26:54] exiting traffic.
So um and we previously lowered speed
[1:26:59] there 45
trying to enhance the safety of that
[1:27:03] side. So Mr. app was fine with both the
park sign and the no parking sign and
[1:27:09] our highway department will have felt
such signs um and then our police
[1:27:14] department will enforce no parking um
once we have those signs there. So that
[1:27:19] is our guideline for that. Um and I
would like to so I'd like to modify the
[1:27:24] motion to say no parts are this side and
um it's really not part
[1:27:32] or something like that on both sides. So
people could
[1:27:41] preserve
preserve ahead.
[1:27:56] So, I'll make a motion to authorize the
town's highway department to install the
[1:28:01] no parking this side signs and preserve
ahead on Sweet Road by Three Falls.
[1:28:12] All
[1:28:15] » very sign up. We'll give a few tickets
and
[1:28:29] This is the employee assistance program
for all time employees. It's like a
[1:28:34] one-year renewal for 71
to 63027.
[1:28:42] Your costs are
[1:28:49] $50 per employee based on 119 employees
at this point and we do if we have
[1:28:56] turnoverly
they get removed new employees they get
[1:29:00] added um emails go out there's plenty of
trainings for employees um is a
[1:29:06] confidential
um program and the only thing that they
[1:29:10] tell us is how many uh employees use the
uh service we do not know what types of
[1:29:17] service and it is also available to uh
members of the employees household.
[1:29:23] [clears throat]
>> Dan, how does that compare to last
[1:29:27] year's per employee fee?
>> Good question.
[1:29:33] » I looked that up, but I have it right in
front of me.
[1:29:37] » Decrease.
>> Yeah, it actually is. Yes, because I I
[1:29:41] had a phone consult with our
representative and it was a decrease
[1:29:45] because we have more wings on
>> Yeah. Thanks.
[1:29:52] » How many employees you saying you said?
>> Um I don't have the figures right now. I
[1:29:57] They'll run um totals for us. I can
forward that information to the board.
[1:30:03] » Is that a monthly reporting or
>> whatever? I can go quarterly because I
[1:30:07] do supply it to the police department
for clea accreditation. So get theirs
[1:30:12] quarterly. They can get them however
you'd like.
[1:30:17] » Yeah, I did see that they raised the
trauma response
[1:30:21] if they wanted to come for a second
time. Was there any money that we use it
[1:30:25] for? that more just
[1:30:41] motion to authorize supervisor to signal
contract subject to legal review.
[1:30:54] Thank you.
[1:30:58] I did want to let people know that the
New York FPCA asked
[1:31:04] to write a letter of support for some
funding that they receive. Um we had we
[1:31:12] have had there has been in the public
realm a lot of concern by the FPCA. Uh I
[1:31:17] want to clarify we do have a contract
with the FPC. So they are available to
[1:31:21] help us should there be an animal
cruelty case in town. This year we have
[1:31:27] contract with them currently. Um but we
are thinking that we would need to learn
[1:31:32] more before we send letter support. So
that was the discussions here is that
[1:31:38] we're not we're not sure what their
current state I know they haven't been
[1:31:41] but we're just not sure what their
current status is to be able to um
[1:31:47] support their expansion in some way when
we're not sure if they fixed their
[1:31:51] problem. So, um, I wanted people to know
that they are planning some improvements
[1:31:56] and we may support that, but we're not
going to support it today because we
[1:32:01] have
>> maybe we can ask them to come to a board
[1:32:04] meeting through presation update on
their
[1:32:08] to the board,
>> right?
[1:32:11] » Help us with our consideration. Want to
also understand
[1:32:16] for the residents to understand what
they get for the contract that they do.
[1:32:30] » All right, that's a good idea. So, are
people okay with
[1:32:42] » and now that they have been
and I'll figure it out.
[1:32:47] » Okay, good.
>> Um, the next one I guess I need to talk
[1:32:51] about this the super
um
[1:32:58] Yeah, sorry. just reading the little
piece.
[1:33:07] » Um so we had our open house last night
for the uh corridor study and it was to
[1:33:15] present the draft plan from um our
consultants and it I think based on what
[1:33:22] I saw was very well received. We had a
great turnout last night. I have got
[1:33:26] tons of great photos and we discussed
safety
[1:33:33] uh walkability and transportation. I
know it was a third topic
[1:33:38] and
so the I was just trying
[1:33:43] but the it was I thought it went really
well. Um, when will the final draft of
[1:33:49] the final I think yeah so
we had several members of the committee
[1:33:56] that joined us last night. Um,
it's all available on our website to
[1:34:03] review plan.
[1:34:07] So this is with the Empire Statement and
they have formed.
[1:34:25] » I'd like to make a motion to authorize
the supervisor to sign the ESD incentive
[1:34:29] proposal development for the Jon
strategic plan and finally order.
[1:34:35] » Correct.
[1:34:44] Okay.
[1:34:47] Motion to approve the budget.
[1:35:01] » Motion to approve the project transfers
as presented by the town.
[1:35:07] All
[1:35:11] right.
Anything else?
[1:35:26] I didn't see you doing much
[1:35:38] meeting. So the pickle ball courts in
the village of M is now open and
[1:35:44] available for use. We going there's
going to be a grand opening in ribbon
[1:35:48] cutting on July 4th at 8:45 a.m. and
then it'll be followed up with a
[1:35:53] football tournament starting at 9.
There's you have sign up for please go
[1:35:57] to the village assistant recreation
Facebook page for more details on that
[1:36:01] process please but we're very excited
that those are now available
[1:36:05] please come support as well
[1:36:11] police
consolidation study group met today
[1:36:16] on the second I think of July
and commission today and had been a long
[1:36:24] day
[1:36:31] um the study group met last week. We had
our first meeting. I thought that it
[1:36:37] went a little well. I hope that they
feel the same way for those of you that
[1:36:40] are were here. We um we discussed
identifying the problem that the study
[1:36:50] group had already observed. kind of
starting from scratch and they quickly
[1:36:56] identified that they would like two
orders for both the police department as
[1:37:00] well as travel. So, we've successfully
scheduled the two hours that will be
[1:37:04] spending for July 15th at 5:30 that will
also include a presentation that evening
[1:37:10] and I'll be working to schedule one for
tele
[1:37:16] uh so that we don't overwhelm July. But
I think it's off to a good start and as
[1:37:22] promised the summary of the meeting is
on the website already.
[1:37:28] Thank
the July the calendar shows that there's
[1:37:33] a commission presentation and know that
be rescheduled to sometime in August.
[1:37:46] » Oh yes, that's right. I got so excited
about pickle ball first
[1:37:50] means of the 50th anniversary of our
summer show the top that the recreation
[1:37:55] department puts on every year for 50
years now.
[1:37:59] » I know that's why I keep saying 50 is
coming up this year. They are doing
[1:38:05] beautiful Carol King
[1:38:09] show is coming up. Um that will be due
July 16th through July 18th.
[1:38:17] Please come and buy please buy your
tickets and see the show. It's going to
[1:38:20] be very good. And I said it is their
50th anniversary of it. So just in case
[1:38:24] you didn't notice 50 it's a big deal. 50
years 1976. So
[1:38:31] » lot of talented people.
>> Yes. Lot of talented people. A lot of
[1:38:34] hard work and effort goes into the
production every year.
[1:38:39] Please produce your tickets.
[1:38:43] Any others?
[1:38:52] I'd like to make a motion
[1:38:58] favor,
[1:39:10] 1476
[1:39:14] goes up.
[1:39:18] You want
[1:39:26] » and trash.
[1:39:40] » So, uh, want to go in executive session
real property.
[1:39:45] was substantially affect.
[1:39:59] Thank you. Thanks for coming.
[2:25:10] twoour blocks.
>> Okay. wants to be
[2:25:15] by public
transparency but I think we have
[2:25:22] questions.
[2:25:30] » Okay. I would do that. We used to do
this.
[2:25:34] Okay.
>> Um, so we're back
[2:25:39] with some great
motion to motion to
[2:25:44] » favor. All right.
>> Thank you very much.
[2:25:52] » Question
because