1 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:18,519 This is the one that's looking on it from understand 2 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:29,279 depending on the exit pipe 3 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:37,600 Call the meeting to order. Pledge algiance. 4 00:00:34,719 --> 00:00:44,079 I pledge algiance to the flag of the United States of America to the republic 5 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:50,600 for which it stands. One nation under God indivisible 6 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:50,600 and justice for all. 7 00:00:53,680 --> 00:01:00,399 John here. >> April here. Jessica here. 8 00:00:58,559 --> 00:01:02,399 » Here >> Steve 9 00:01:00,879 --> 00:01:07,760 » here >> on routine matters. Um I was I was going 10 00:01:05,519 --> 00:01:11,395 to have our attorney um James Pay clarify for us on the approval of the 11 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:16,159 talk about the approval of [clears throat] the special meeting 12 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:21,600 minutes where we approved a um a quote that was over 25,000 and his 13 00:01:18,799 --> 00:01:24,640 understanding on how it was possible. Thanks James. [cough] 14 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:32,200 » Sure. [clears throat] And I'm I'm basically paraphrasing what's in the the 15 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:32,200 code section which is 65 ILCS5-8-9-1 16 00:01:34,159 --> 00:01:42,880 which says you know the project if it's $25,000 under does not have to be bid. 17 00:01:39,759 --> 00:01:46,560 Um the idea there is when you when you're when you're looking at what the 18 00:01:44,479 --> 00:01:51,600 project costs you look at it then if it ends up costing a little more later 19 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:56,320 that's okay. You're still outside the bid process. The other way that you can 20 00:01:54,479 --> 00:02:01,520 kind of paper that is with a super majority vote of the board. So then 21 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:06,640 that's that's even if the project was estimated to start at above $25,000, 22 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:12,720 you all as a super majority, meaning four out of six, can can overcome that 23 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:17,040 bid process on on something like that. But but just two things to note. One, 24 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:20,800 it's what you're looking at at the time with regard to whether or not you go 25 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:24,640 into the bid process, right? So, if it looks like a $25,000 project at [snorts] 26 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:29,280 the time, then you don't have to bid it, even if it ends up going over a little 27 00:02:26,319 --> 00:02:32,800 bit, right? Now, if it goes over a whole bunch, then it's pretty easy to look 28 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:36,800 behind. Well, was it ever really a $25,000 project to begin with? So, 29 00:02:34,959 --> 00:02:42,000 that's kind of the give and take there. But again, you've got that ability um as 30 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:46,080 a board organized for a municipality that's under 500,000 people to overcome 31 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:51,760 any of those things with a super majority vote of your board. 32 00:02:49,519 --> 00:02:56,000 But that is the figure the 25,000. >> That's that's the right number 33 00:02:52,959 --> 00:03:00,319 » for municipal. It's it's higher for uh um townships. 34 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:03,200 » So as you're looking at a project that always have that number in mind, right? 35 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:06,319 Because if it's looking like it's going to be bigger than that. Okay. Well, we 36 00:03:04,879 --> 00:03:10,000 either need to bid or go through a supermajority vote, right? If it's going 37 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:11,920 to be under that, you're good. Either way, 38 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:15,680 » go ahead. >> I was just always told it was 30,000. 39 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:22,800 That's why I questioned it. It's it's different amounts for different weight. 40 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:26,959 City, village, town, school board, >> drains, district. Okay. All that. 41 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:31,120 » All that. Okay. Thank you. >> Did anyone have any questions about for 42 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:37,360 the routine manners? >> I have a couple. Okay. Um, where did we 43 00:03:34,640 --> 00:03:42,480 survey on something? Is that what you're Is that what you 44 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:47,519 did, Steve? Was a survey survey on that's why I was looking at that print. 45 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:50,680 Which what bill was it? >> Hang on. 46 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:58,879 » Was that the weight and merchant >> for sidewalks? 47 00:03:56,720 --> 00:04:05,680 » Oh, the survey was for the sidewalks. Okay. 48 00:04:02,239 --> 00:04:10,640 The 2530 is it? >> It says sidewalk. So, 49 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:13,920 » and then the new street storm tour right under it would be the engineering for 50 00:04:12,239 --> 00:04:17,840 the train project. >> Was that before we put the sidewalk in 51 00:04:15,439 --> 00:04:21,759 on McKinley? Is that that >> that's where you know when we we 52 00:04:19,199 --> 00:04:23,759 extended the McKinley um we did had to redo the drainage. Is that what you're 53 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:26,400 talking about? >> Yeah. 54 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:30,600 » Before we could extend it, we had to have it looked at. 55 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:45,720 Where do you see that, Keith? I'm sorry. You bottom of page two. 56 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:45,720 » Oh, I'm on 57 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:53,479 bills payable. >> Bottom of page two. 81426. 58 00:04:56,240 --> 00:05:01,280 » Okay. So, that's part of Mckenley. >> Yeah. 59 00:04:59,280 --> 00:05:06,880 » Okay. And then um I'm just curious do we get 60 00:05:04,639 --> 00:05:11,280 estimate because we I feels like we are using a lot of we have a lot of sidewalk 61 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:15,919 material stuff even just in the last four four days or the payable she did 62 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:23,160 don't you think it might be a little bit cheaper to 63 00:05:18,479 --> 00:05:23,160 » maybe get estimates on those then 64 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:38,160 » where are you talking what we're at on 9 date is 98 imi Illinois Irving materials 65 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:42,000 it five invoices just on that you know that 66 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:44,240 one day they >> well that was the day that she paid them 67 00:05:43,759 --> 00:05:47,520 all >> right that's what I'm saying but I mean 68 00:05:45,759 --> 00:05:52,919 even some of the other stuff that's just one day of you know paying them but we 69 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:52,919 have a lot of other 70 00:05:55,039 --> 00:06:00,000 » sidewalk >> I'm sorry what's your question 71 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:04,240 » well I'm just throwing it out there that maybe we could look at because we still 72 00:06:01,840 --> 00:06:07,600 got to do uh Mckenley, right? >> Are you saying we need to get quotes for 73 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:12,160 different concrete or what? >> But all the amount of money we've spent 74 00:06:09,280 --> 00:06:14,880 on the sidewalks, all the supplies, I don't know if it would be cheaper to 75 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:20,720 have to have somebody come in maybe. >> Do you know the block that um the block 76 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:26,080 that when Merl could not do it, that sort section 77 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:29,919 was $6,500? 65 to $7,000 for one. I'm just throwing 78 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:33,440 that out. >> No, no, I mean we can, but I'm just 79 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:38,319 saying when we've gotten quotes, they were much higher than having Merl as an 80 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:39,440 employee doing it and and paying for the concrete. 81 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:43,240 » Okay. >> We didn't pay that much. 82 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:50,560 » I'm sorry. >> Our concrete guy was very 83 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:53,520 » we didn't pay that much. >> You know, if you need 84 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:57,199 » give us give us contact information. That's fine. We'll take contact 85 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:59,199 information. And 86 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:06,080 » and then one more the red line. Is that the new updated U water software? 87 00:07:01,840 --> 00:07:10,240 » What what's the billing cards for? >> Is that what we is that that we can send 88 00:07:09,199 --> 00:07:14,000 out? >> Um honestly I haven't made it that far 89 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:17,919 in [laughter] >> it was just delivered. It's the giant 90 00:07:15,599 --> 00:07:19,759 box of cards sitting on the table program regardless. 91 00:07:19,039 --> 00:07:22,400 » Correct. Right. >> So it's it is billing cards. It looks 92 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:26,080 like a >> whether we use them or not. It just came 93 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:29,280 with Not unless she needs to. >> Okay. 94 00:07:27,599 --> 00:07:32,160 » We didn't have an option. That was just part of it. 95 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:35,599 » You can have billing cards or something else. Okay. 96 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:37,680 » You get it regardless. >> Anything else? 97 00:07:37,039 --> 00:07:43,039 » Susan, >> I I just the um animal control report. I 98 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:48,080 know. I don't know if that's specific to the old business or the 99 00:07:46,639 --> 00:07:50,639 Do you want to reach out to Shan and I won't have any answers for that? 100 00:07:49,039 --> 00:07:54,639 » I'm just wondering why we have cats for the last two months. 101 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:59,280 » Um Dr. It was a kitten that was smaller that was too small to get spayed or 102 00:07:56,319 --> 00:08:05,680 neutered and so she kept it down there. So that's why. Okay. 103 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:09,560 I believe it's gone now, but you can check with her for sure. 104 00:08:10,479 --> 00:08:17,759 Anything else? I don't. Okay. 105 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:20,759 » All right. Is there a motion for routine matters? 106 00:08:27,199 --> 00:08:30,879 I'll make a motion to accept the routine matters. 107 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:33,919 » Is there a second? >> I'll second. 108 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:35,279 » Roll call. >> Don, 109 00:08:34,560 --> 00:08:36,479 » yes. >> April, 110 00:08:35,919 --> 00:08:38,080 » yes. >> Jessica, 111 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:39,200 » yes. >> Todd, 112 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:40,560 » yes. >> Susan, 113 00:08:39,839 --> 00:08:44,159 » yes. >> Steve, 114 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:49,920 » yes. >> Old business, Steve, it's all you. 115 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:54,560 uh drainage work 116 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:58,800 » looks like this discussion on I guess or is it both of them I guess Newton and 117 00:08:56,399 --> 00:09:04,640 Oliver for the drainage uh I reached out the engineer 118 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:09,920 did his drawings on the report and I actually reached out to a contractor 119 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:17,120 about boring underneath Washington street uh the price I got exceeds 25,000 120 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:22,560 uh so we're going to have to put it out for bid and 121 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:27,600 by doing so I'll just the engineer I'll have to do another short drawing send it 122 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:33,200 out for a bid kind of like a a letting but it will be we should get something 123 00:09:29,519 --> 00:09:37,279 back within like two weeks however when I talked to him today probably the 124 00:09:34,959 --> 00:09:42,480 soonest he said a contractor may be able to start maybe two months you're rushing 125 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:46,000 the engineer agency you're rushing that they're going to increase their bids 126 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:49,680 because they're going to push other workers 127 00:09:46,959 --> 00:09:53,920 more for that's the problem. So, I'm really hoping this would work, but it 128 00:09:51,279 --> 00:09:59,760 come out more than what we needed. So, I'd like to make a motion. Uh I guess 129 00:09:57,279 --> 00:10:04,000 any questions on it first. >> What was your estimate? 130 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:07,440 » Uh the one I guess 30,000 and then I beat him down a little bit, 131 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:12,399 tried getting him down. I got him down about 26,000. He said he couldn't go any 132 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:17,040 lower. He'd lose money. He's borderline that. 133 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:23,200 But that was pouring under the road, which what we would wouldn't have to 134 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:26,959 close if we dig trench the road. They're telling me it take approximately 135 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:31,760 three at least three days to do that, put that line in and do the work. So 136 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:36,320 that's an 80,000 lb highway with truck traffic coming from south town with 137 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:41,519 nowhere for trucks to turn around. So, we'd have to divert truck traffic out at 138 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:47,279 the township road at the second S-curve, which in turn he felt the engineer 139 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:50,959 thought it'd be cheaper to dig saw the road and dig it. But talking to one 140 00:10:49,680 --> 00:10:54,800 contractor, he said, "No, by the time you put a flagger out there, you got to 141 00:10:52,880 --> 00:11:00,000 divert that traffic. That road be closed for three days." 142 00:10:56,800 --> 00:11:06,160 So, uh, boring may be the way to go. But, uh, either way, I think we need to 143 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:10,720 put it out for bid. get some bids on it and I should be able to get something 144 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:15,480 within two weeks and go from there. 145 00:11:17,279 --> 00:11:23,200 » Is that was that where your was your motion just for the West Newton at this 146 00:11:21,519 --> 00:11:25,760 point and then we'll go in onto the >> Yeah, then I'll go on talking about 147 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:28,720 Oliver. I don't >> Is there a second for the West Newton 148 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:32,800 motion? >> What's that? I said, "Is there a 149 00:11:30,399 --> 00:11:37,680 second?" Because you made a motion. >> So, this is boring under under 150 00:11:35,680 --> 00:11:42,240 Washington at noon. >> Yes. Only thing that is is getting 151 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:47,120 underneath and then from that point on down, we'll have to inhouse the tile all 152 00:11:45,279 --> 00:11:51,839 the way down to Davis Court. >> Okay. 153 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:54,560 » That's just getting under the road. So, >> okay. 154 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:59,079 » We try contracting it out. I mean, we looking at probably a quarter of a 155 00:11:55,839 --> 00:11:59,079 million dollars. 156 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:05,519 Is there a second? >> I'll second. 157 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:07,040 Roll call. >> Don, 158 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:08,480 » yes. >> April, 159 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:10,000 » yes. >> Jessica, 160 00:12:09,279 --> 00:12:11,360 » yes. >> Todd, 161 00:12:10,560 --> 00:12:13,839 » yes. >> Susan, 162 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:18,560 » yes. Steve, >> yes. 163 00:12:16,079 --> 00:12:24,480 Okay. Then the other discussion I got is down on Oliver Street. Uh, talked a 164 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:31,040 little bit with Keith on it. Uh, we probably need to We haven't got a cost 165 00:12:26,639 --> 00:12:38,160 on that yet, have we? Yet for piping. >> I got some numbers for what different 166 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:42,800 sizes cost. A single 18 more water than 212s, which is what we have now. 167 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:47,760 So, I would >> because that one I don't actually have a 168 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:52,480 cost on, but uh I don't really got anything to vote on 169 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:57,440 on it yet till we get a final cost. But I think we need to replace that tile. 170 00:12:54,959 --> 00:13:01,279 What you and I discussed from there on Jefferson, right? Or no, I'm sorry, 171 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:05,279 Maine. >> Maine all the way down to the street 172 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:09,440 down there by uh >> east 173 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:14,000 back in that junction box. >> And then 174 00:13:10,079 --> 00:13:18,680 » something like $20,000 just for the >> I got I got the numbers out of the shop. 175 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:27,680 I'd like to if we can vote to move forward with that, but I probably need 176 00:13:25,839 --> 00:13:34,560 to get that cost first. >> Can we do like a cost up to like 40,000 177 00:13:31,839 --> 00:13:36,880 that and then if it's more than that, we could 178 00:13:35,279 --> 00:13:40,639 » feel like it not to exceed. >> Yeah. I mean, in the budget, do you know 179 00:13:39,519 --> 00:13:43,040 » 85,000? >> So there's 180 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:47,440 » there's still some there. >> Yeah. So just make a motion that we 181 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:49,920 would to proceed up to a certain amount. And I mean, and I'm just throwing out 182 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:53,040 there for you if you guys have a different number you want to use that we 183 00:13:51,519 --> 00:13:56,959 could approve it so it doesn't slow it down. So, 184 00:13:54,320 --> 00:14:01,839 » just remember, we got other pipe we're going to have to run on down uh Newton 185 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:05,360 Street also >> after we get the the one foot under the 186 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:07,120 road. >> Well, 187 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:11,920 » that's not the end of it. There's another would you say 300 ft there, 188 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:15,040 right? >> Probably more than that. 189 00:14:12,959 --> 00:14:23,360 » Yeah, more than that. Yeah, 300 was to the that one catch base in there at the 190 00:14:19,279 --> 00:14:26,560 » Yeah, I think it was 360 and I looked at too much stuff. Was more 191 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:31,920 300. >> I thought it was like 600. 192 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:34,959 » Wasn't it like 630 instead of 360? >> Huh? 193 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:38,720 » Wasn't it like 630 and not 360? >> Might be. I thought I heard 360, but I 194 00:14:36,959 --> 00:14:42,639 think that was just to the house. >> I think that was just the first. 195 00:14:40,399 --> 00:14:44,720 » Yes. Yeah, >> if I remember. I think that one of you 196 00:14:44,399 --> 00:14:48,240 guys >> Yeah, it's a way down there. 197 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:52,800 » So, we're going to have that cost also. >> So, do you want to I mean, do you want 198 00:14:51,199 --> 00:14:56,320 to have a lower amount and we're going to have other costs? And I mean, it just 199 00:14:54,639 --> 00:15:01,839 means that if it goes over what we get for a quote, we we can't proceed until 200 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:04,560 we come back and vote for more money. I think we need to do something to get it 201 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:07,600 start. >> I mean, 202 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:11,839 » Newton's important. I mean, both of them streets 203 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:16,079 » are big problems in town. >> So, I mean, like you said, worst case 204 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:20,720 we'd have to redo the budget. We >> We'd have to have a special meeting, 205 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:26,880 right, to change the budget. Lisa, >> you would to vote on 206 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:30,959 » if you wanted to if you go more than 10% over budget, we would have to reduce the 207 00:15:28,639 --> 00:15:35,279 budget. But in order to approve more money, you would just have a special 208 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:42,480 meeting. Okay. Okay. Thank you. All right. So, does 40,000 sound good or 209 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:47,199 somebody make a motion? I'll make a motion to start on those repairs not 210 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:49,519 exceeding 40,000. >> Is there a second? 211 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:51,360 » Second. >> Roll call. 212 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:52,560 » Don, >> yes. 213 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:54,720 » April, >> yes. Jessica, 214 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:56,480 » yes. >> Todd, 215 00:15:55,759 --> 00:15:58,480 » yes. >> Susan, 216 00:15:57,199 --> 00:16:01,440 » yes. Steve, [clears throat] >> yes. 217 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:06,959 » All right. For new business. >> Has anyone talked to Frontier lately? 218 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:10,160 People that own that field there? Originally when they bought that land, 219 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:13,759 they told me they were going to put tile in there. 220 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:16,000 » Did you talk to them once, Todd? >> No, I've never talked. 221 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:18,399 » What land are we talking about? I'm sorry. 222 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:22,000 » The farm ground on the south side of Newton Street. 223 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:27,199 » I don't know how much that would work, though. When I was looking at the the 224 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:30,079 hill just to the south of that, >> even you put tile in there, you're still 225 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:32,560 going to get a lot of runoff in that ditch. I don't think there's anything we 226 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:35,839 can do about it. >> Okay. I was just wondering. I was just 227 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:40,639 looking at that one day when we had all the standing water there. There's a 228 00:16:37,839 --> 00:16:43,199 pretty good bridge there and tiling will help depend on where they put their 229 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:48,440 tile. If they want to put in their ditch, it's going to make it worse. 230 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:48,440 » South. 231 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:57,199 » All right. So, for new business, >> I got a couple. 232 00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:59,759 » Oh, >> where we at with the Mckenley property 233 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:04,319 update? >> Um, we're going to try to put those all 234 00:17:01,759 --> 00:17:09,839 out for bid next month. for the four properties. 235 00:17:07,839 --> 00:17:11,120 » Sure, we we can do that. We just need I need to know. 236 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:13,679 » Yeah. >> Where where the actual leaves of 237 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:16,400 property? >> Okay. Yeah, I'll get all that to you. 238 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:20,559 So, we'll put it out for bid for October to open at the November meeting that 239 00:17:19,199 --> 00:17:23,199 » are we still going to do all the stipulations on them or are we just 240 00:17:22,079 --> 00:17:28,360 going to do as is? >> We're going to do stipulations for 241 00:17:24,559 --> 00:17:28,360 houses on all four. 242 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:39,440 And what about the crosswalk signs of the school? Where we at with them? 243 00:17:35,919 --> 00:17:42,799 » Uh, it's less. [laughter] >> Probably five, six weeks. 244 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:45,760 » Seriously? >> Seriously? 245 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:48,160 » Wow. >> Well, they keep sending us the wrong 246 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:52,559 size. [laughter] >> Oh my gosh. 247 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:56,320 So, one you couldn't even see the LED lights on the last ones that they I mean 248 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:59,760 they were like this big and they were the sides are bright yellow and those 249 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:04,480 were like a dark orange. They were like an amber color. So, 250 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:06,880 » can they even supply them for us? But we were actually 251 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:10,640 » Oh, they sent really nice high quality ones. They were just the wrong sign. 252 00:18:09,039 --> 00:18:16,640 They weren't the school crossing sign. They were just pedestrian crossing sign. 253 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:21,360 » I wonder. So then they sent the school crossing sign to try and you know get us 254 00:18:19,360 --> 00:18:26,799 to put it up for school while they corrected the first one and those were 255 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:28,960 jokes. So I said just give me the right send it to me move on 256 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:32,799 » right >> and school's already started 257 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:37,280 » it's an ongoing >> problem in my opinion 258 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:40,240 » nobody nobody stocks anything you manufacture by orders 259 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:45,640 » it's in Asia he said oh it'll be six weeks it comes out factory of course 260 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:51,252 » thank you for that input [laughter] 261 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:55,600 » I have a couple things that he's I'm done. 262 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:58,160 » You're done? >> Yes. 263 00:18:56,000 --> 00:19:01,840 » Okay. Uh, last week or last month, somebody asked about being able to put 264 00:18:59,840 --> 00:19:05,760 the police like a police log on the agenda or on the audience portion. Did 265 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:08,160 we find out about that? >> Um, we are working on that with the 266 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:11,160 attorney. >> Okay. 267 00:19:11,679 --> 00:19:15,840 » And then, uh, we're redoing the water ordinance. 268 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:20,000 » We're working on that. >> Right. Um, because I know like in this 269 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:25,280 heat they've been working going to work early. Can we put the hours of the 270 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:28,400 working hours [clears throat] just in case there's a problem with 271 00:19:26,799 --> 00:19:31,760 » They still haven't been leaving. You've been leaving at 3:30, right? You guys 272 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:35,600 haven't left earlier than that. >> I know he's he started early Friday, so 273 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:40,080 I'm assuming he with the heat, he didn't work. 274 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:45,120 » Yeah, I don't know. >> I sometimes we come in sometimes do much 275 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:50,600 because >> but I know people call it, you know, 350 276 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:58,160 Um, you want us to put the hours? What? I'm 277 00:19:56,880 --> 00:20:01,760 I'm sorry. What are you asking? >> The working hours just in case he starts 278 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:06,640 early. >> Where would you like us to put them? 279 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:09,760 » It says in the ordinance during business hours. Oh. 280 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:11,840 » To actually put the hours of the regular time, 281 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:15,840 » the 7 to 3:30. >> Okay. 282 00:20:13,919 --> 00:20:20,559 » So, but he's he's working on the working I mean on the water ordinance. So, we'll 283 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:25,440 we'll discuss that next month. >> Are we going to vote on it next month? 284 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:31,679 » Um, it all depends on what he has and what we if if it's we want changes from 285 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:36,480 what they're asking for. So, I mean, if it's going to be we're starting on it. I 286 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:40,400 mean, he'll present what he's giving to us if we like what it is the changes 287 00:20:38,559 --> 00:20:44,799 are. If we have questions, it may take until November to to approve it if 288 00:20:43,039 --> 00:20:48,000 there's any changes need to be made, but we'll have it for review, I'm sure, by 289 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:51,000 now. So, 290 00:20:53,039 --> 00:20:58,039 anything else, Susan? 291 00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:06,960 » No. >> So, for new business, um, 292 00:21:05,120 --> 00:21:12,480 with Heather stepping down, Kylie Reynolds has offered to step up to 293 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:18,960 oversee the Mansfield community events. Um it'll go into a um village of 294 00:21:15,919 --> 00:21:22,080 Mansfield checking account. Lisa will it it since it's going to be a village of 295 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:26,159 Mansfield checking account, it will be included in the audit. It won't be a 296 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:31,360 separate account. It'll it'll be in the audit. Lisa will reconcile it as she 297 00:21:28,559 --> 00:21:38,320 does all the other accounts. So that'll be done. It'll still be um the signers 298 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:43,120 will be as if I think it's Todd Duffy and I are on the the signers on the 299 00:21:40,799 --> 00:21:48,320 account and it'll work that way. There will be a debit card if she needs to 300 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:56,120 purchase something. But um that way there's there's no conflict or problems. 301 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:56,120 Anybody have any questions? 302 00:21:56,159 --> 00:22:03,840 Is there a motion to um appoint Kylie Reynolds as the to 303 00:22:01,360 --> 00:22:08,520 oversee the Mansfield community events? >> I'll make that motion. 304 00:22:05,039 --> 00:22:08,520 » Is there a second? 305 00:22:09,360 --> 00:22:12,640 » I'll second. >> Roll call. 306 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:14,080 » John, >> yes. 307 00:22:13,679 --> 00:22:15,679 » Yes. >> Jessica, 308 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:16,880 » yes. >> Todd, 309 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:18,240 » yes. >> Susan, 310 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:20,400 » yes. >> Steve, 311 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:28,400 » yes. All right. And then, um, Todd, business. 312 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:32,080 » Okay. Um, our tornado siren on the south side of town quit working. Keith 313 00:22:30,559 --> 00:22:37,120 replaced batteries because the batter is completely dead. Wouldn't hold the 314 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:43,039 charge. Um, they lasted a few days and then they were dead again. So, we called 315 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:49,679 GTSI. They came out, looked at the siren. They say it got hit by lightning 316 00:22:47,120 --> 00:22:55,679 or took a power surge. Um, so we submitted a claim with the 317 00:22:52,880 --> 00:23:00,480 insurance. Uh, the first problem is the insurance says it's not insured. It's 318 00:22:57,360 --> 00:23:05,520 not on the policy. Um, that when it was put in 22 years ago, nobody insured it. 319 00:23:03,919 --> 00:23:09,840 Um, but they will come out and look at it 320 00:23:07,679 --> 00:23:17,600 and they will give a good faith payment of 10,000 if there's damage. 321 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:23,120 Um, I personally think we need to find someone else to look at it before we 322 00:23:20,159 --> 00:23:26,559 proceed too much further. Um, Keith took the batteries back out before he was on 323 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:33,679 vacation, put them in, and it's worked every day since till today. I think it 324 00:23:29,120 --> 00:23:38,799 died today, finally. Um, but it's just not charging. They say the motherboard 325 00:23:35,919 --> 00:23:43,600 and all the electronics are bad. I'm not sure that's true. I don't know anything 326 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:48,400 about electronics like that. Um, so I think we should probably search for a 327 00:23:45,679 --> 00:23:54,320 second opinion, but the insurance is going to come out this week or next to 328 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:58,679 look at it and evaluate it. Um, a new siren is $41,000. 329 00:23:59,706 --> 00:24:08,480 [clears throat] So, um, if if it's just a charger, we can order a charger and 330 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:13,200 put in there separately instead of going through the control board, and it will 331 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:13,200 do the same thing. 332 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:17,919 Okay. >> So, it should be tomorrow. 333 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:23,120 » So, there's really nothing to vote on right now. I'd say just let's It's 334 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:27,200 working. It goes off at noon. We can still control it from here in the 335 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:30,640 sheriff's office. So, >> without a battery? 336 00:24:28,799 --> 00:24:32,720 » Well, it's got battery with batteries. Yeah. 337 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:35,520 » You can control it without it or without the battery or No, 338 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:39,240 » it has to have batteries. It's It's run strictly off batteries. 339 00:24:39,279 --> 00:24:46,880 So, it's still operational if we need it. Um, I think we just need a second. 340 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:50,159 So, >> do you know of a company that does 341 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:54,960 » I'm researching that now. That's the problem. It's hard to find somebody. 342 00:24:53,120 --> 00:24:58,640 » But these people come from Jacksonville, so they're already from quite a 343 00:24:56,559 --> 00:25:03,039 distance. So, 344 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:09,440 and this falls under old business, new 345 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:14,080 business. Um the ANR mechanical has started doing work on the water main 346 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:23,200 system. They did some potholeing today locating utilities. So they should be 347 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:28,960 progressing the next week or so. Um they're starting on the west side of 348 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:33,279 town on Oliver Street. So here in a few days you might try to avoid the area if 349 00:25:30,799 --> 00:25:39,520 you're over there. Um, they've got all the stuff down at the shop to start the 350 00:25:35,919 --> 00:25:43,080 construction and do the digging. That's all I got. 351 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:48,559 » All right. Audience comments. >> I have a couple. Sorry. Um, when are 352 00:25:47,279 --> 00:25:50,400 they going to start the demo in that house? 353 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:56,279 » Do you know? >> I don't know. The excavator's there. So, 354 00:25:52,159 --> 00:25:56,279 I imagine this week. 355 00:25:56,720 --> 00:26:02,080 » They must have extra equipment. >> I know. Been there. Been there a while. 356 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:04,240 having gone away. >> Oh yeah. No. 357 00:26:02,799 --> 00:26:06,640 » Yeah, it was all it was there all last week. 358 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:10,880 » And then are we done with the sidewalks for the year? 359 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:15,760 » And no more trees for the year, right? >> Unless it's an emergency, but the house 360 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:21,039 or the tree on Mckenley. We're not doing that one, right? 361 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:25,760 » On North Mckenley. >> It's dead. I mean, it's been dead. But 362 00:26:23,679 --> 00:26:31,440 » you mean the one on Griggs and No, Mckenley. Which Which one are you? 363 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:36,080 » It's a Griggs and Mckenley. Right past um the junkyard 364 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:38,480 » where Tony lives. >> Yeah. 365 00:26:36,799 --> 00:26:42,320 » Yeah. Right. >> Chris Night. It's not dead though, is 366 00:26:40,559 --> 00:26:46,559 it? I don't think that's a dead one there. 367 00:26:43,279 --> 00:26:50,320 » Tony O'Donn while 368 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:54,799 » not 100% sure that's even ours. >> Tony O'Donnell's. 369 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:57,679 That's Griggs and Mckenley. I thought you had 370 00:26:55,279 --> 00:27:01,360 » He has two trees up front. One >> one This one's on the side. The one was 371 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,880 It's on Mckenley's side. >> Yeah. 372 00:27:01,679 --> 00:27:06,159 » The one that he painted. >> Yeah. Yes. 373 00:27:05,039 --> 00:27:09,679 » I don't know if that's ours. >> I don't think that's ours. 374 00:27:07,360 --> 00:27:11,760 » No, that's the one that he's he's been talking about is on Gregs. 375 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:16,200 » This one. >> And he also ones out front. 376 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:16,200 » Yeah. 377 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:22,880 » I mean, it's dead and like you said, it's he's painted it several times. 378 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:26,080 » Is that >> Yeah, that's Billy Ray Williams place 379 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:29,440 there. >> And then right next to the tree. 380 00:27:27,279 --> 00:27:32,919 » So, this one right I don't remember. >> Yeah, that one's not 381 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:36,840 » going. 382 00:27:37,919 --> 00:27:42,960 Okay. >> I think Yeah. 383 00:27:41,679 --> 00:27:47,919 » Yeah. But it looks like it's on according to my 384 00:27:45,360 --> 00:27:50,640 » Well, with side his >> I think it's his. I don't think it's 385 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:54,360 steady, but I want to make sure we didn't we're not 386 00:27:54,480 --> 00:28:02,720 » any I'm good. Okay. All right. Any audience comments? Hope. 387 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:06,159 » Um, why are we spending so much on cat food in the cat? 388 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:11,760 » Because she had a cat for two months that was there. So, it shouldn't I 389 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:18,679 talked to her about not keeping it for that long. So, she stocked up. She 390 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:18,679 shouldn't need it again. So, 391 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:26,399 thank you, Erin. >> I have a couple. [clears throat] Um, 392 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:30,960 last month somebody asked about the comment section being at the end of the 393 00:28:28,399 --> 00:28:33,960 meeting and you had stated that you're respect 394 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:47,440 and it doesn't provide for a format. You can do them at the beginning. Um, and I 395 00:28:43,919 --> 00:28:52,320 would strongly urge you guys to reorder the meeting so that the audience can 396 00:28:50,960 --> 00:29:00,080 weigh in at the beginning of the meeting. you guys had stated that the 397 00:28:56,320 --> 00:29:05,760 you provide the agendas like you know a couple days ahead which have to by the 398 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:10,799 open meetings act. Um but that's not a reason because then we get to sit here 399 00:29:08,559 --> 00:29:14,799 and watch everybody vote but people might have comments about some of the 400 00:29:12,559 --> 00:29:18,480 agenda items. It'd be nice to have an opportunity to give those comments 401 00:29:17,279 --> 00:29:23,520 before they're voted on. >> All right. Thank you for your input. Um 402 00:29:20,399 --> 00:29:27,279 my other item is that um 403 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:30,480 why are there no committee meeting minutes available? 404 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:35,760 » We haven't had any committee meetings recently. 405 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:38,080 » Are they like so they're just whenever like ad hoc meetings whenever they're 406 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:42,159 needed? >> Yes. 407 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:45,880 » Why are there why have committed? 408 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:52,320 It's our it's our process and thank you for your input. So I appreciate your 409 00:29:51,120 --> 00:30:00,520 concern and we'll take it under adisement. Is there any other 410 00:29:55,919 --> 00:30:00,520 » Can we spray more than once a week? 411 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:09,600 » Mosquitoes spraying more than once a week. Is that what you're saying? 412 00:30:06,399 --> 00:30:12,960 » They're terrible now. >> Um 413 00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:15,919 you can only spray so much to figure out whether you can or not. Whatever the 414 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:21,440 label says, >> they do make products that you can spray 415 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:25,520 at home that will last longer than what we do. 416 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:32,840 » Ortho makes one. It's a liquid application. It stays on foliage for a 417 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:32,840 couple weeks as opposed to 418 00:30:35,279 --> 00:30:44,960 » Demon Max. I use it's rated for like six months or something, 419 00:30:40,559 --> 00:30:48,880 but if it rains, it washs it off. You can't keep anything in the air for 420 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:53,279 flying mosquitoes. I'm guaranteeing you. I don't care what they say. 421 00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:56,480 » I did spray. The mosquito has to fly into that fog. That's the only way it 422 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:59,360 works. So once I go down the street, you see that fog for four minutes and then 423 00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:02,880 it's gone. >> That's it. 424 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:08,136 » Thank you. >> They took my eye on off. That worked. 425 00:31:06,116 --> 00:31:08,136 [laughter] 426 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:12,600 » And all those kids are in heaven. 427 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:19,520 Chris, did you have your hand up? >> Yeah, I had a question. So, I'm excited 428 00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:23,039 the village is doing stuff about drainage. I was just curious where 429 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:27,440 Liberty is going to follow on on that. We've been here for about 12 years 430 00:31:25,679 --> 00:31:34,480 have a lot of problems being full of water. That of course problem. 431 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:41,120 » We're we're starting we're we're starting on Newton. We're starting on um 432 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:47,600 Oliver and it's my understanding that those two areas will expand out, but 433 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:51,519 we'll we're doing that this year. Well, I mean, they probably should have a 434 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:54,880 street and drainage committee needing to figure out some long-term planning for 435 00:31:53,120 --> 00:32:00,679 that, but we'll take that into account. Thank you. 436 00:31:57,120 --> 00:32:00,679 » Any other questions? 437 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:10,159 All right. So, okay, there's one more announcement. Um, 438 00:32:06,159 --> 00:32:15,519 I have packets for election um available as of the conclusion of this meeting. 439 00:32:13,279 --> 00:32:20,640 Um, I've only got three ready to hand out. We had to order more paper. Um, and 440 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:26,240 I've got five more ready to go when the paper's here in two days. Um, so, um, if 441 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:30,240 you're interested in, [clears throat] you'll have to get with me to get one. 442 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:33,919 How many seats are? >> Three. 443 00:32:32,159 --> 00:32:40,159 » All right. So, our next regular meeting is Monday, October 5th, 2026 here at the 444 00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:43,200 fire department at 7 p.m. Is there a motion to adjurnn? 445 00:32:41,919 --> 00:32:46,880 » I'll make a motion to >> I'll second. 446 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:48,000 » Don, >> yeah. 447 00:32:47,519 --> 00:32:50,559 » April, >> yes. Jessica, 448 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:51,679 » yes. Todd, >> yes. 449 00:32:51,039 --> 00:32:55,960 » Susan, >> yes. Steve, 450 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,960 » yes. 451 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:10,200 Put that again. 452 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:24,760 I'm trying.