[0:10] This is the one that's looking on it
from understand
[0:24] depending on the exit pipe
[0:29] Call the meeting to order. Pledge
algiance.
[0:34] I pledge algiance to the flag of the
United States of America to the republic
[0:41] for which it stands. One nation under
God indivisible
[0:46] and justice for all.
[0:53] John here.
>> April here. Jessica here.
[0:58] » Here
>> Steve
[1:00] » here
>> on routine matters. Um I was I was going
[1:05] to have our attorney um James Pay
clarify for us on the approval of the
[1:10] talk about the approval of
[clears throat] the special meeting
[1:12] minutes where we approved a um a quote
that was over 25,000 and his
[1:18] understanding on how it was possible.
Thanks James. [cough]
[1:23] » Sure. [clears throat] And I'm I'm
basically paraphrasing what's in the the
[1:27] code section which is 65 ILCS5-8-9-1
[1:34] which says you know the project if it's
$25,000 under does not have to be bid.
[1:39] Um the idea there is when you when
you're when you're looking at what the
[1:44] project costs you look at it then if it
ends up costing a little more later
[1:49] that's okay. You're still outside the
bid process. The other way that you can
[1:54] kind of paper that is with a super
majority vote of the board. So then
[1:59] that's that's even if the project was
estimated to start at above $25,000,
[2:04] you all as a super majority, meaning
four out of six, can can overcome that
[2:09] bid process on on something like that.
But but just two things to note. One,
[2:14] it's what you're looking at at the time
with regard to whether or not you go
[2:18] into the bid process, right? So, if it
looks like a $25,000 project at [snorts]
[2:22] the time, then you don't have to bid it,
even if it ends up going over a little
[2:26] bit, right? Now, if it goes over a whole
bunch, then it's pretty easy to look
[2:31] behind. Well, was it ever really a
$25,000 project to begin with? So,
[2:34] that's kind of the give and take there.
But again, you've got that ability um as
[2:39] a board organized for a municipality
that's under 500,000 people to overcome
[2:44] any of those things with a super
majority vote of your board.
[2:49] But that is the figure the 25,000.
>> That's that's the right number
[2:52] » for municipal. It's it's higher for uh
um townships.
[2:58] » So as you're looking at a project that
always have that number in mind, right?
[3:02] Because if it's looking like it's going
to be bigger than that. Okay. Well, we
[3:04] either need to bid or go through a
supermajority vote, right? If it's going
[3:08] to be under that, you're good. Either
way,
[3:11] » go ahead.
>> I was just always told it was 30,000.
[3:13] That's why I questioned it. It's it's
different amounts for different weight.
[3:19] City, village, town, school board,
>> drains, district. Okay. All that.
[3:24] » All that. Okay. Thank you.
>> Did anyone have any questions about for
[3:28] the routine manners?
>> I have a couple. Okay. Um, where did we
[3:34] survey on something?
Is that what you're Is that what you
[3:38] did, Steve? Was a survey survey on
that's why I was looking at that print.
[3:45] Which what bill was it?
>> Hang on.
[3:52] » Was that the weight and merchant
>> for sidewalks?
[3:56] » Oh,
the survey was for the sidewalks. Okay.
[4:02] The 2530 is it?
>> It says sidewalk. So,
[4:08] » and then the new street storm tour right
under it would be the engineering for
[4:12] the train project.
>> Was that before we put the sidewalk in
[4:15] on McKinley? Is that that
>> that's where you know when we we
[4:19] extended the McKinley um we did had to
redo the drainage. Is that what you're
[4:23] talking about?
>> Yeah.
[4:24] » Before we could extend it, we had to
have it looked at.
[4:38] Where do you see that, Keith? I'm sorry.
You bottom of page two.
[4:42] » Oh, I'm on
[4:48] bills payable.
>> Bottom of page two. 81426.
[4:56] » Okay. So, that's part of Mckenley.
>> Yeah.
[4:59] » Okay.
And then um I'm just curious do we get
[5:04] estimate because we I feels like we are
using a lot of we have a lot of sidewalk
[5:09] material stuff even just in the last
four four days or the payable she did
[5:14] don't you think it might be a little bit
cheaper to
[5:18] » maybe get estimates on those then
[5:27] » where are you talking what we're at on 9
date is 98 imi Illinois Irving materials
[5:35] it
five invoices just on that you know that
[5:40] one day they
>> well that was the day that she paid them
[5:43] all
>> right that's what I'm saying but I mean
[5:45] even some of the other stuff that's just
one day of you know paying them but we
[5:49] have a lot of other
[5:55] » sidewalk
>> I'm sorry what's your question
[5:58] » well I'm just throwing it out there that
maybe we could look at because we still
[6:01] got to do uh Mckenley, right?
>> Are you saying we need to get quotes for
[6:05] different concrete or what?
>> But all the amount of money we've spent
[6:09] on the sidewalks, all the supplies, I
don't know if it would be cheaper to
[6:13] have to have somebody come in maybe.
>> Do you know the block that um the block
[6:18] that when Merl could not do it, that
sort section
[6:23] was $6,500?
65 to $7,000 for one. I'm just throwing
[6:29] that out.
>> No, no, I mean we can, but I'm just
[6:31] saying when we've gotten quotes, they
were much higher than having Merl as an
[6:36] employee doing it and and paying for the
concrete.
[6:38] » Okay.
>> We didn't pay that much.
[6:43] » I'm sorry.
>> Our concrete guy was very
[6:48] » we didn't pay that much.
>> You know, if you need
[6:51] » give us give us contact information.
That's fine. We'll take contact
[6:54] information.
And
[6:57] » and then one more the red line. Is that
the new updated U water software?
[7:01] » What what's the billing cards for?
>> Is that what we is that that we can send
[7:09] out?
>> Um honestly I haven't made it that far
[7:12] in [laughter]
>> it was just delivered. It's the giant
[7:15] box of cards sitting on the table
program regardless.
[7:19] » Correct. Right.
>> So it's it is billing cards. It looks
[7:21] like a
>> whether we use them or not. It just came
[7:24] with Not unless she needs to.
>> Okay.
[7:27] » We didn't have an option. That was just
part of it.
[7:29] » You can have billing cards or something
else. Okay.
[7:32] » You get it regardless.
>> Anything else?
[7:37] » Susan,
>> I I just the um animal control report. I
[7:41] know. I don't know if that's specific to
the old business or the
[7:46] Do you want to reach out to Shan and I
won't have any answers for that?
[7:49] » I'm just wondering why we have cats for
the last two months.
[7:51] » Um Dr. It was a kitten that was smaller
that was too small to get spayed or
[7:56] neutered and so she kept it down there.
So that's why. Okay.
[8:02] I believe it's gone now, but you can
check with her for sure.
[8:10] Anything else?
I don't. Okay.
[8:16] » All right. Is there a motion for routine
matters?
[8:27] I'll make a motion to accept the routine
matters.
[8:30] » Is there a second?
>> I'll second.
[8:32] » Roll call.
>> Don,
[8:34] » yes.
>> April,
[8:35] » yes.
>> Jessica,
[8:37] » yes.
>> Todd,
[8:38] » yes.
>> Susan,
[8:39] » yes.
>> Steve,
[8:41] » yes.
>> Old business, Steve, it's all you.
[8:48] uh
drainage work
[8:50] » looks like this discussion on I guess or
is it both of them I guess Newton and
[8:56] Oliver for the drainage
uh I reached out the engineer
[9:02] did his drawings on the report and I
actually reached out to a contractor
[9:07] about boring underneath Washington
street uh the price I got exceeds 25,000
[9:15] uh so we're going to have to put it out
for bid and
[9:20] by doing so I'll just the engineer I'll
have to do another short drawing send it
[9:25] out for a bid kind of like a a letting
but it will be we should get something
[9:29] back within like two weeks however
when I talked to him today probably the
[9:34] soonest he said a contractor may be able
to start maybe two months you're rushing
[9:40] the engineer agency you're rushing that
they're going to increase their bids
[9:44] because they're going to push other
workers
[9:46] more for that's the problem. So, I'm
really hoping this would work, but it
[9:51] come out more than what we needed. So,
I'd like to make a motion. Uh I guess
[9:57] any questions on it first.
>> What was your estimate?
[10:01] » Uh the one I guess 30,000
and then I beat him down a little bit,
[10:05] tried getting him down. I got him down
about 26,000. He said he couldn't go any
[10:09] lower. He'd lose money. He's borderline
that.
[10:14] But that was pouring under the road,
which what we would wouldn't have to
[10:19] close if we dig trench the road.
They're telling me it take approximately
[10:24] three at least three days to do that,
put that line in and do the work. So
[10:29] that's an 80,000 lb highway with truck
traffic coming from south town with
[10:33] nowhere for trucks to turn around. So,
we'd have to divert truck traffic out at
[10:38] the township road at the second S-curve,
which in turn he felt the engineer
[10:44] thought it'd be cheaper to dig saw the
road and dig it. But talking to one
[10:49] contractor, he said, "No, by the time
you put a flagger out there, you got to
[10:52] divert that traffic. That road be closed
for three days."
[10:56] So, uh, boring may be the way to go.
But, uh, either way, I think we need to
[11:02] put it out for bid. get some bids on it
and I should be able to get something
[11:07] within two weeks
and go from there.
[11:17] » Is that was that where your was your
motion just for the West Newton at this
[11:21] point and then we'll go in onto the
>> Yeah, then I'll go on talking about
[11:24] Oliver. I don't
>> Is there a second for the West Newton
[11:27] motion?
>> What's that? I said, "Is there a
[11:30] second?" Because you made a motion.
>> So, this is boring under under
[11:35] Washington at noon.
>> Yes. Only thing that is is getting
[11:39] underneath and then from that point on
down, we'll have to inhouse the tile all
[11:45] the way down to Davis Court.
>> Okay.
[11:48] » That's just getting under the road. So,
>> okay.
[11:52] » We try contracting it out. I mean, we
looking at probably a quarter of a
[11:55] million dollars.
[12:01] Is there a second?
>> I'll second.
[12:04] Roll call.
>> Don,
[12:06] » yes.
>> April,
[12:07] » yes.
>> Jessica,
[12:09] » yes.
>> Todd,
[12:10] » yes.
>> Susan,
[12:12] » yes. Steve,
>> yes.
[12:16] Okay. Then the other discussion I got is
down on Oliver Street. Uh, talked a
[12:21] little bit with Keith on it. Uh, we
probably need to We haven't got a cost
[12:26] on that yet, have we? Yet for piping.
>> I got some numbers for what different
[12:34] sizes cost. A single 18 more water than
212s, which is what we have now.
[12:41] So, I would
>> because that one I don't actually have a
[12:44] cost on, but uh
I don't really got anything to vote on
[12:49] on it yet till we get a final cost. But
I think we need to replace that tile.
[12:54] What you and I discussed from there on
Jefferson, right? Or no, I'm sorry,
[13:00] Maine.
>> Maine all the way down to the street
[13:04] down there by uh
>> east
[13:06] back in that junction box.
>> And then
[13:10] » something like $20,000 just for the
>> I got I got the numbers out of the shop.
[13:21] I'd like to if we can vote to move
forward with that, but I probably need
[13:25] to get that cost first.
>> Can we do like a cost up to like 40,000
[13:31] that and then if it's more than that, we
could
[13:35] » feel like it not to exceed.
>> Yeah. I mean, in the budget, do you know
[13:39] » 85,000?
>> So there's
[13:41] » there's still some there.
>> Yeah. So just make a motion that we
[13:44] would to proceed up to a certain amount.
And I mean, and I'm just throwing out
[13:48] there for you if you guys have a
different number you want to use that we
[13:51] could approve it so it doesn't slow it
down. So,
[13:54] » just remember, we got other pipe we're
going to have to run on down uh Newton
[14:00] Street also
>> after we get the the one foot under the
[14:04] road.
>> Well,
[14:05] » that's not the end of it. There's
another would you say 300 ft there,
[14:09] right?
>> Probably more than that.
[14:12] » Yeah, more than that. Yeah, 300 was to
the that one catch base in there at the
[14:19] » Yeah, I think it was 360 and
I looked at too much stuff. Was more
[14:25] 300.
>> I thought it was like 600.
[14:29] » Wasn't it like 630 instead of 360?
>> Huh?
[14:32] » Wasn't it like 630 and not 360?
>> Might be. I thought I heard 360, but I
[14:36] think that was just to the house.
>> I think that was just the first.
[14:40] » Yes. Yeah,
>> if I remember. I think that one of you
[14:44] guys
>> Yeah, it's a way down there.
[14:46] » So, we're going to have that cost also.
>> So, do you want to I mean, do you want
[14:51] to have a lower amount and we're going
to have other costs? And I mean, it just
[14:54] means that if it goes over what we get
for a quote, we we can't proceed until
[14:59] we come back and vote for more money. I
think we need to do something to get it
[15:03] start.
>> I mean,
[15:05] » Newton's important. I mean, both of them
streets
[15:09] » are big problems in town.
>> So, I mean, like you said, worst case
[15:13] we'd have to redo the budget. We
>> We'd have to have a special meeting,
[15:17] right, to change the budget. Lisa,
>> you would to vote on
[15:22] » if you wanted to if you go more than 10%
over budget, we would have to reduce the
[15:28] budget. But in order to approve more
money, you would just have a special
[15:32] meeting. Okay. Okay. Thank you. All
right. So, does 40,000 sound good or
[15:40] somebody make a motion? I'll make a
motion to start on those repairs not
[15:45] exceeding 40,000.
>> Is there a second?
[15:48] » Second.
>> Roll call.
[15:50] » Don,
>> yes.
[15:52] » April,
>> yes. Jessica,
[15:53] » yes.
>> Todd,
[15:55] » yes.
>> Susan,
[15:57] » yes. Steve, [clears throat]
>> yes.
[15:59] » All right. For new business.
>> Has anyone talked to Frontier lately?
[16:04] People that own that field there?
Originally when they bought that land,
[16:08] they told me they were going to put tile
in there.
[16:11] » Did you talk to them once, Todd?
>> No, I've never talked.
[16:14] » What land are we talking about? I'm
sorry.
[16:16] » The farm ground on the south side of
Newton Street.
[16:20] » I don't know how much that would work,
though. When I was looking at the the
[16:24] hill just to the south of that,
>> even you put tile in there, you're still
[16:28] going to get a lot of runoff in that
ditch. I don't think there's anything we
[16:31] can do about it.
>> Okay. I was just wondering. I was just
[16:34] looking at that one day when we had all
the standing water there. There's a
[16:37] pretty good bridge there and tiling will
help depend on where they put their
[16:41] tile. If they want to put in their
ditch, it's going to make it worse.
[16:45] » South.
[16:52] » All right. So, for new business,
>> I got a couple.
[16:56] » Oh,
>> where we at with the Mckenley property
[16:58] update?
>> Um, we're going to try to put those all
[17:01] out for bid next month.
for the four properties.
[17:07] » Sure, we we can do that. We just need I
need to know.
[17:10] » Yeah.
>> Where where the actual leaves of
[17:13] property?
>> Okay. Yeah, I'll get all that to you.
[17:14] So, we'll put it out for bid for October
to open at the November meeting that
[17:19] » are we still going to do all the
stipulations on them or are we just
[17:22] going to do as is?
>> We're going to do stipulations for
[17:24] houses on all four.
[17:32] And what about the crosswalk signs of
the school? Where we at with them?
[17:35] » Uh, it's less. [laughter]
>> Probably five, six weeks.
[17:41] » Seriously?
>> Seriously?
[17:43] » Wow.
>> Well, they keep sending us the wrong
[17:47] size. [laughter]
>> Oh my gosh.
[17:50] So, one you couldn't even see the LED
lights on the last ones that they I mean
[17:54] they were like this big and they were
the sides are bright yellow and those
[17:58] were like a dark orange. They were like
an amber color. So,
[18:02] » can they even supply them for us? But we
were actually
[18:05] » Oh, they sent really nice high quality
ones. They were just the wrong sign.
[18:09] They weren't the school crossing sign.
They were just pedestrian crossing sign.
[18:12] » I wonder. So then they sent the school
crossing sign to try and you know get us
[18:19] to put it up for school while they
corrected the first one and those were
[18:23] jokes. So I said just give me the right send it to me move on
[18:28] » right
>> and school's already started
[18:32] » it's an ongoing
>> problem in my opinion
[18:34] » nobody nobody stocks anything you
manufacture by orders
[18:38] » it's in Asia he said oh it'll be six
weeks it comes out factory of course
[18:47] » thank you for that input [laughter]
[18:51] » I have a couple things that he's
I'm done.
[18:54] » You're done?
>> Yes.
[18:56] » Okay. Uh, last week or last month,
somebody asked about being able to put
[18:59] the police like a police log on the
agenda or on the audience portion. Did
[19:04] we find out about that?
>> Um, we are working on that with the
[19:07] attorney.
>> Okay.
[19:11] » And then, uh, we're redoing the water
ordinance.
[19:14] » We're working on that.
>> Right. Um, because I know like in this
[19:18] heat they've been working going to work
early. Can we put the hours of the
[19:23] working hours [clears throat] just in
case there's a problem with
[19:26] » They still haven't been leaving. You've
been leaving at 3:30, right? You guys
[19:30] haven't left earlier than that.
>> I know he's he started early Friday, so
[19:33] I'm assuming he with the heat, he didn't
work.
[19:37] » Yeah, I don't know.
>> I sometimes we come in sometimes do much
[19:44] because
>> but I know people call it, you know, 350
[19:51] Um,
you want us to put the hours? What? I'm
[19:56] I'm sorry. What are you asking?
>> The working hours just in case he starts
[20:00] early.
>> Where would you like us to put them?
[20:04] » It says in the ordinance during business
hours. Oh.
[20:07] » To actually put the hours of the regular
time,
[20:10] » the 7 to 3:30.
>> Okay.
[20:13] » So, but he's he's working on the working
I mean on the water ordinance. So, we'll
[20:18] we'll discuss that next month.
>> Are we going to vote on it next month?
[20:22] » Um, it all depends on what he has and
what we if if it's we want changes from
[20:27] what they're asking for. So, I mean, if
it's going to be we're starting on it. I
[20:34] mean, he'll present what he's giving to
us if we like what it is the changes
[20:38] are. If we have questions, it may take
until November to to approve it if
[20:43] there's any changes need to be made, but
we'll have it for review, I'm sure, by
[20:46] now.
So,
[20:53] anything else,
Susan?
[20:59] » No.
>> So, for new business, um,
[21:05] with Heather stepping down, Kylie
Reynolds has offered to step up to
[21:09] oversee the Mansfield community events.
Um it'll go into a um village of
[21:15] Mansfield checking account. Lisa will it
it since it's going to be a village of
[21:20] Mansfield checking account, it will be
included in the audit. It won't be a
[21:24] separate account. It'll it'll be in the
audit. Lisa will reconcile it as she
[21:28] does all the other accounts. So that'll
be done. It'll still be um the signers
[21:34] will be as if I think it's Todd Duffy
and I are on the the signers on the
[21:40] account and it'll work that way. There
will be a debit card if she needs to
[21:44] purchase something. But um that way
there's there's no conflict or problems.
[21:52] Anybody have any questions?
[21:56] Is there a motion to
um appoint Kylie Reynolds as the to
[22:01] oversee the Mansfield community events?
>> I'll make that motion.
[22:05] » Is there a second?
[22:09] » I'll second.
>> Roll call.
[22:12] » John,
>> yes.
[22:13] » Yes.
>> Jessica,
[22:14] » yes.
>> Todd,
[22:16] » yes.
>> Susan,
[22:17] » yes.
>> Steve,
[22:18] » yes.
All right. And then, um, Todd, business.
[22:24] » Okay. Um, our tornado siren on the south
side of town quit working. Keith
[22:30] replaced batteries because the batter is
completely dead. Wouldn't hold the
[22:33] charge. Um, they lasted a few days and
then they were dead again. So, we called
[22:40] GTSI. They came out, looked at the
siren. They say it got hit by lightning
[22:47] or took a power surge.
Um, so we submitted a claim with the
[22:52] insurance. Uh, the first problem is the
insurance says it's not insured. It's
[22:57] not on the policy. Um, that when it was
put in 22 years ago, nobody insured it.
[23:03] Um,
but they will come out and look at it
[23:07] and they will give a good faith payment
of 10,000 if there's damage.
[23:14] Um, I personally think we need to find
someone else to look at it before we
[23:20] proceed too much further. Um, Keith took
the batteries back out before he was on
[23:24] vacation, put them in, and it's worked
every day since till today. I think it
[23:29] died today, finally. Um, but it's just
not charging. They say the motherboard
[23:35] and all the electronics are bad. I'm not
sure that's true. I don't know anything
[23:40] about electronics like that. Um, so I
think we should probably search for a
[23:45] second opinion, but the insurance is
going to come out this week or next to
[23:51] look at it and evaluate it. Um, a new
siren is $41,000.
[23:59] [clears throat] So, um, if if it's just
a charger, we can order a charger and
[24:05] put in there separately instead of going
through the control board, and it will
[24:09] do the same thing.
[24:14] Okay.
>> So, it should be tomorrow.
[24:15] » So, there's really nothing to vote on
right now. I'd say just let's It's
[24:20] working. It goes off at noon. We can
still control it from here in the
[24:24] sheriff's office. So,
>> without a battery?
[24:28] » Well, it's got battery with batteries.
Yeah.
[24:30] » You can control it without it or without
the battery or No,
[24:33] » it has to have batteries. It's It's run
strictly off batteries.
[24:39] So, it's still operational if we need
it. Um, I think we just need a second.
[24:46] So,
>> do you know of a company that does
[24:48] » I'm researching that now. That's the
problem. It's hard to find somebody.
[24:53] » But these people come from Jacksonville,
so they're already from quite a
[24:56] distance.
So,
[25:00] and
this falls under old business, new
[25:04] business. Um the ANR mechanical has
started doing work on the water main
[25:11] system. They did some potholeing today
locating utilities. So they should be
[25:18] progressing the next week or so. Um
they're starting on the west side of
[25:24] town on Oliver Street. So here in a few
days you might try to avoid the area if
[25:30] you're over there. Um, they've got all
the stuff down at the shop to start the
[25:35] construction and do the digging.
That's all I got.
[25:44] » All right. Audience comments.
>> I have a couple. Sorry. Um, when are
[25:47] they going to start the demo in that
house?
[25:49] » Do you know?
>> I don't know. The excavator's there. So,
[25:52] I imagine this week.
[25:56] » They must have extra equipment.
>> I know. Been there. Been there a while.
[26:00] having gone away.
>> Oh yeah. No.
[26:02] » Yeah, it was all it was there all last
week.
[26:04] » And then are we done with the sidewalks
for the year?
[26:08] » And no more trees for the year, right?
>> Unless it's an emergency, but the house
[26:13] or the tree on Mckenley. We're not doing
that one, right?
[26:17] » On North Mckenley.
>> It's dead. I mean, it's been dead. But
[26:23] » you mean the one on Griggs and No,
Mckenley. Which Which one are you?
[26:28] » It's a Griggs and Mckenley. Right
past um the junkyard
[26:34] » where Tony lives.
>> Yeah.
[26:36] » Yeah. Right.
>> Chris Night. It's not dead though, is
[26:40] it? I don't think that's a dead one
there.
[26:43] » Tony O'Donn
while
[26:48] » not 100% sure that's even ours.
>> Tony O'Donnell's.
[26:52] That's Griggs and Mckenley. I thought
you had
[26:55] » He has two trees up front. One
>> one This one's on the side. The one was
[27:00] It's on Mckenley's side.
>> Yeah.
[27:01] » The one that he painted.
>> Yeah. Yes.
[27:05] » I don't know if that's ours.
>> I don't think that's ours.
[27:07] » No, that's the one that he's he's been
talking about is on Gregs.
[27:11] » This one.
>> And he also ones out front.
[27:13] » Yeah.
[27:16] » I mean, it's dead and like you said,
it's he's painted it several times.
[27:21] » Is that
>> Yeah, that's Billy Ray Williams place
[27:25] there.
>> And then right next to the tree.
[27:27] » So, this one right I don't remember.
>> Yeah, that one's not
[27:33] » going.
[27:37] Okay.
>> I think Yeah.
[27:41] » Yeah. But it looks like it's on
according to my
[27:45] » Well, with side his
>> I think it's his. I don't think it's
[27:49] steady, but I want to make sure we
didn't we're not
[27:54] » any I'm good. Okay. All right. Any
audience comments? Hope.
[28:00] » Um, why are we spending so much on cat
food in the cat?
[28:04] » Because she had a cat for two months
that was there. So, it shouldn't I
[28:10] talked to her about not keeping it for
that long. So, she stocked up. She
[28:14] shouldn't need it again. So,
[28:19] thank you, Erin.
>> I have a couple. [clears throat] Um,
[28:24] last month somebody asked about the
comment section being at the end of the
[28:28] meeting and you had stated that you're
respect
[28:37] and it doesn't provide for a format. You
can do them at the beginning. Um, and I
[28:43] would strongly urge you guys to reorder
the meeting so that the audience can
[28:50] weigh in at the beginning of the
meeting. you guys had stated that the
[28:56] you provide the agendas like you know a
couple days ahead which have to by the
[29:01] open meetings act. Um but that's not a
reason because then we get to sit here
[29:08] and watch everybody vote but people
might have comments about some of the
[29:12] agenda items. It'd be nice to have an
opportunity to give those comments
[29:17] before they're voted on.
>> All right. Thank you for your input. Um
[29:20] my other item is that
um
[29:25] why are there no committee meeting
minutes available?
[29:28] » We haven't had any committee meetings
recently.
[29:32] » Are they like so they're just whenever
like ad hoc meetings whenever they're
[29:37] needed?
>> Yes.
[29:39] » Why are there
why have committed?
[29:46] It's our it's our process and thank you
for your input. So I appreciate your
[29:51] concern and we'll take it under
adisement. Is there any other
[29:55] » Can we spray more than once a week?
[30:00] » Mosquitoes spraying more than once a
week. Is that what you're saying?
[30:06] » They're terrible now.
>> Um
[30:11] you can only spray so much to figure out
whether you can or not. Whatever the
[30:14] label says,
>> they do make products that you can spray
[30:18] at home that will last longer than what
we do.
[30:23] » Ortho makes one. It's a liquid
application. It stays on foliage for a
[30:28] couple weeks as opposed to
[30:35] » Demon Max. I use it's
rated for like six months or something,
[30:40] but if it rains, it washs it off.
You can't keep anything in the air for
[30:46] flying mosquitoes. I'm guaranteeing you.
I don't care what they say.
[30:50] » I did spray. The mosquito has to fly
into that fog. That's the only way it
[30:54] works. So once I go down the street, you
see that fog for four minutes and then
[30:58] it's gone.
>> That's it.
[31:02] » Thank you.
>> They took my eye on off. That worked.
[31:06] [laughter]
[31:08] » And all those kids are in heaven.
[31:15] Chris, did you have your hand up?
>> Yeah, I had a question. So, I'm excited
[31:18] the village is doing stuff about
drainage. I was just curious where
[31:20] Liberty is going to follow on on that.
We've been here for about 12 years
[31:25] have a lot of problems being full of
water. That of course problem.
[31:31] » We're we're starting we're we're
starting on Newton. We're starting on um
[31:37] Oliver and it's my understanding that
those two areas will expand out, but
[31:45] we'll we're doing that this year. Well,
I mean, they probably should have a
[31:49] street and drainage committee needing to
figure out some long-term planning for
[31:53] that, but we'll take that into account.
Thank you.
[31:57] » Any other questions?
[32:00] All right. So,
okay, there's one more announcement. Um,
[32:06] I have packets for election um available
as of the conclusion of this meeting.
[32:13] Um, I've only got three ready to hand
out. We had to order more paper. Um, and
[32:18] I've got five more ready to go when the
paper's here in two days. Um, so, um, if
[32:24] you're interested in, [clears throat]
you'll have to get with me to get one.
[32:28] How many seats are?
>> Three.
[32:32] » All right. So, our next regular meeting
is Monday, October 5th, 2026 here at the
[32:37] fire department at 7 p.m. Is there a
motion to adjurnn?
[32:41] » I'll make a motion to
>> I'll second.
[32:46] » Don,
>> yeah.
[32:47] » April,
>> yes. Jessica,
[32:49] » yes. Todd,
>> yes.
[32:51] » Susan,
>> yes. Steve,
[32:52] » yes.
[33:06] Put that again.
[33:21] I'm trying.