1 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:16,780 Okay, I think we're ready to begin our city council meeting since the hour and six thirty has arrived. Maybe they're not. I'll just talk loud because it's on. 2 00:00:31,540 --> 00:00:45,360 Okay, thank you everyone for coming out this evening for City Council meeting for August 12th, 2026, and now it's still 6.30, so we did. 3 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:46,220 All right. 4 00:00:46,420 --> 00:00:53,980 And Mike, we are holding our council meeting at the Manitai City Building 50 South Main. 5 00:00:55,500 --> 00:01:06,840 And we have today, almost the whole crew, AJ Maura is absent, excuse and our city manager 6 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:17,480 is at the rural water meetings. He's on the board and so he's having Lecaix filling for him this evening. 7 00:01:18,180 --> 00:01:25,940 Megan Johnson, Mary Pipes, Jen Christensen, Brian Flazis, Fwa, are here as well as myself and a reporter Matt Gray. 8 00:01:26,980 --> 00:01:30,420 And Michael, we imagine it will be standing there for Jason. 9 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:38,420 To begin this evening, Mary Pifes will offer our prayer and then write in French while we'll leave soon and pledge for each other 10 00:01:41,340 --> 00:01:42,140 and have them ourselves. 11 00:01:42,580 --> 00:01:45,840 Very blessed is the thing in this beautiful town and this beautiful country. 12 00:01:46,660 --> 00:01:55,720 Thankful for the opportunity we have to meet as a Mayor City Council and on the wonderful citizens of Pantheid this evening to discuss the citizens of Pantheid. 13 00:01:56,320 --> 00:02:01,900 We pray that by spiritual guidance as we consider the options in front of us 14 00:02:01,900 --> 00:02:07,160 that we will make the best and wisest decisions for everyone in the N.D. 15 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:10,740 We are grateful for the reigns that we have received. 16 00:02:11,060 --> 00:02:16,780 We are grateful for the firemen who are out fighting the wildfires in our area. 17 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:22,220 And we do pray for their safety and for the comfort of those who have been lost. 18 00:02:23,140 --> 00:02:26,960 We pray now that my spirit will be with us as we go through this evening. 19 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:30,660 We with those who are not here this night that they will also be blessed. 20 00:02:30,660 --> 00:02:35,800 We love these for very much and these days these things in the name of my son, Jesus Christ, isn't it? 21 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:37,900 In the head. He's right for the glory. 22 00:02:41,270 --> 00:02:52,030 I believe it is the state of life of the United States of America, and to the Republic, or which it stands, one nation under God, 23 00:02:52,670 --> 00:02:56,330 into this law with liberty and justice for all. 24 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:01,360 Thank you. He 25 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:07,880 first item on our council agenda today, 26 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:10,580 If you want to switch that up, okay? 27 00:03:11,300 --> 00:03:14,380 If you can, is the declaration of 28 00:03:14,380 --> 00:03:15,900 confidence of personal interest, 29 00:03:15,940 --> 00:03:18,860 if anyone has anything that they need 30 00:03:18,860 --> 00:03:20,560 to declare on the agenda today, 31 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:21,380 please make it known? 32 00:03:21,820 --> 00:03:23,480 I don't know if it's a conflict of interest, 33 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:24,560 but just so everyone knows, 34 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:26,680 I don't want to disturb a reservation commission. 35 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:29,420 I think that's sort of an assignment. 36 00:03:29,780 --> 00:03:30,600 Well, thank you. 37 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:34,080 Thank you for bringing me that. 38 00:03:34,860 --> 00:03:36,840 Our second item is the approval 39 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:45,600 a lot of recent Council meeting minutes from July 15th, 2026. Has anyone noted any additional 40 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:54,200 corrections that are needed on the minutes? I will not accept a motion to approve minutes 41 00:03:54,200 --> 00:04:00,660 for July 15th, 2026. On the motion that we approve the minutes from 42 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:09,240 The motion made by Grant Francois, seconded by Jen Christy Hanson Olin-Taver. 43 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:09,940 Hi. 44 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:11,560 Any opposed? 45 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:13,480 Motion passes. 46 00:04:14,020 --> 00:04:14,600 That's our crew. 47 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:15,300 Thank you. 48 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:24,960 Next item is an approval of payment report that the bills that will need to sign that the conclusion of our Council meeting today. 49 00:04:25,940 --> 00:04:27,860 Are there any questions on those bills? 50 00:04:27,860 --> 00:04:30,880 or any items that you want to discuss. 51 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:34,180 I'm really glad that we use an anti-mode call 52 00:04:34,180 --> 00:04:35,500 for businesses as we do. 53 00:04:36,020 --> 00:04:38,740 The nice thing is that we have gotten things from 54 00:04:38,740 --> 00:04:42,340 that we've used whenever possible here in New Zealand. 55 00:04:43,380 --> 00:04:45,280 Thanks for bringing in that up, Mary, 56 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:46,520 because it is important. 57 00:04:47,280 --> 00:04:51,260 And hopefully we all make an effort for our local businesses 58 00:04:51,260 --> 00:04:54,520 because it helps with our own tax base 59 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:56,660 so that we don't have to increase other taxes 60 00:04:56,660 --> 00:05:04,560 as much. All right, given that, I will accept a motion for the 61 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:08,260 repealment of the bills following our meeting this evening. 62 00:05:12,980 --> 00:05:18,160 Motion made by Jim Christensen, and seconded by Megan Johnson, all in favor. 63 00:05:18,580 --> 00:05:26,020 Hi. Hi. Any opposed? Motion passes, so we'll take 64 00:05:26,020 --> 00:05:39,360 The next item is regarding our 2027 municipal elections and I believe we have an expert to explain things to it. 65 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:40,320 Heather, thank you. 66 00:05:58,350 --> 00:06:06,350 This is regarding the draft 27 interlocal cooperation agreement between Santa Fe County and New York City. 67 00:06:06,890 --> 00:06:07,490 You're 68 00:06:12,260 --> 00:06:12,480 welcome. 69 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:16,400 Thank you. 70 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:16,600 You're welcome. 71 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:17,880 Thank you very much. 72 00:06:18,340 --> 00:06:18,740 Thank you. 73 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:19,280 You're welcome. 74 00:06:20,420 --> 00:06:20,500 Thank you. 75 00:06:22,450 --> 00:06:22,990 Okay. 76 00:06:23,710 --> 00:06:25,150 So my name is Heather Piper. 77 00:06:25,690 --> 00:06:28,890 And I am Southeast County Fellowship Specialist. 78 00:06:29,110 --> 00:06:30,650 Also a Deputy Clerk for Women for CNN. 79 00:06:31,590 --> 00:06:32,690 She's the county clerk. 80 00:06:32,910 --> 00:06:35,550 If you're not aware of the county clerk's panel, 81 00:06:35,890 --> 00:06:37,810 we do broader requests, 82 00:06:38,570 --> 00:06:40,270 marriage licenses, business licenses, 83 00:06:40,710 --> 00:06:41,230 past courts. 84 00:06:41,870 --> 00:06:43,190 We also do a meeting agenda 85 00:06:43,190 --> 00:06:48,390 the clerking for the county commissioners and the planning commission and then my personal 86 00:06:48,390 --> 00:06:49,150 favorite is election. 87 00:06:49,930 --> 00:06:53,490 Well, Linda came into the office almost four years ago, one of the highest priorities 88 00:06:53,490 --> 00:06:58,010 of her was to be able to build a stronger, more direct connection with our municipal leaders. 89 00:06:58,650 --> 00:07:00,650 But more specifically with our state of recorders. 90 00:07:00,990 --> 00:07:03,970 Under Ducal Law, our state of recorders serve as the election model. 91 00:07:04,470 --> 00:07:07,970 The official election of officers of the municipal elections. 92 00:07:08,490 --> 00:07:10,230 She is the election officer for the county. 93 00:07:10,230 --> 00:07:13,850 three-quarters carries a responsibility of local governance 94 00:07:13,850 --> 00:07:15,210 for ethnic grassroots levels. 95 00:07:15,650 --> 00:07:17,530 Today, I'm here to discuss our updated 96 00:07:17,530 --> 00:07:20,470 in a local election agreement, walk through 97 00:07:20,470 --> 00:07:23,630 about 2027 municipal elections by the will of life, 98 00:07:24,130 --> 00:07:25,910 and highlight why activists were involved 99 00:07:25,910 --> 00:07:28,250 in an essential to running secure, accurate, 100 00:07:28,430 --> 00:07:30,730 and transparent elections across that county. 101 00:07:31,930 --> 00:07:34,310 First of all, for the inter-local agreement, 102 00:07:34,310 --> 00:07:44,080 The updated, the updated local agreement has normally changed much through the past years 103 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:50,820 on false provoked or did increase and certification responsibilities have been enhanced. 104 00:07:51,180 --> 00:07:55,880 County Commission and the county attorney have approved the draft and the county commission meeting. 105 00:07:56,240 --> 00:08:00,820 We encourage you to review the document to city attorney and you have any suggestions, 106 00:08:00,820 --> 00:08:03,540 and be back for adjustments to be evaluated. 107 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:07,000 Find out the agreement, be assigned, be a document. 108 00:08:07,860 --> 00:08:11,640 Come to December, and this year, we are going to also 109 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:17,460 please get your feedback back to us by April 27th. 110 00:08:17,460 --> 00:08:18,920 For those of you that have a copy, 111 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:20,940 can you please turn, say, did it be? 112 00:08:22,820 --> 00:08:23,380 So 113 00:08:42,740 --> 00:08:45,140 this is the estimated cost per election. 114 00:08:46,420 --> 00:08:49,380 As you review this, you'll see that the basic election 115 00:08:49,380 --> 00:08:52,980 administration needed $4 per register voter for each election. 116 00:08:53,740 --> 00:08:59,320 And once we can be transparent, the cost of administering an election is far more than just 117 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:01,980 $4 per register voter. 118 00:09:03,580 --> 00:09:08,460 The cost of administering elections is for secure ballot printing and return postage 119 00:09:08,460 --> 00:09:14,720 to specialize in equipment, maintenance, licensing, and staff, state-mounted security audits, 120 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:17,200 a data for their policy board, drastically. 121 00:09:17,740 --> 00:09:19,740 A rate of four letters for four letters of night 122 00:09:19,740 --> 00:09:21,260 and cover the cost of the county 123 00:09:21,260 --> 00:09:22,460 and ministers each election. 124 00:09:23,900 --> 00:09:26,320 By partnering with the county and the state of Illinois 125 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:28,900 is having to purchase hundreds of thousands of dollars 126 00:09:28,900 --> 00:09:31,500 in multiple legislators, high-speed scanners, 127 00:09:31,500 --> 00:09:32,780 especially voting machines. 128 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:35,280 The county handles the heavy technical lid, 129 00:09:35,680 --> 00:09:37,320 such as creating a million dollars, 130 00:09:37,700 --> 00:09:38,940 managing signature verification, 131 00:09:39,820 --> 00:09:42,600 time rating votes, and conducting votes election models. 132 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:50,000 As of right now, magic currently has 234 active registered donors, and over the past five 133 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:56,060 election cycles, Matt Harris held the primary election in 21, 23, and as in 25, and the general 134 00:09:56,060 --> 00:10:02,620 election, because there's 17, 19, 21, 23, and as in 25, so looking ahead, the 20, 27, 135 00:10:02,780 --> 00:10:08,000 million elections, we want your council to be prepared to budget accurately. Primary elections 136 00:10:08,740 --> 00:10:15,560 in our county municipalities are only triggered when Canada, by the way, is exceed twice the number to the open seats. 137 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:20,800 Historically, in most county counties, cities only hold a general election. 138 00:10:21,300 --> 00:10:27,880 However, if you would have a contest of race with three or more candidates for a single open seat, a primary bill for 139 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:30,880 incurring the rate of the four dollars per register bill there. 140 00:10:31,660 --> 00:10:44,420 Just a budget intent, we just strongly suggest that you acutely do put in a primary in your budget, as if you were going to have a primary in the $27 election. 141 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:57,120 While the county managed, managed with the ballot processing, the high-tech infrastructure of susceptible election is impossible without active participation from our state recorders and local officials. 142 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:04,420 We are here to support you in every step of the way, but city development, slip, strip, critical 143 00:11:04,420 --> 00:11:07,860 statutory steps, union and custody protocols cannot be kept compromised. 144 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:10,920 Specifically, we need your leadership in four key areas. 145 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:16,600 For the training and development, we need to report as intentionally additional city staff 146 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:21,240 or election officials to participate directly in our local worker and election security training. 147 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:27,760 ballad pick up and delivery, under the interlocal agreement the city's responsibility to pick up and deliver battle. 148 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:31,900 We do not take the chance to trust the or ballad be sure to be lighting. 149 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:36,400 Only trained individuals are authorized to perform ballad pick up and delivery duties. 150 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:40,500 Your directing involvement here is critical to protecting the integrity of the boat. 151 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:43,460 Such a story public nonsense and disclosures. 152 00:11:44,200 --> 00:12:00,300 Recorders remain in responsible for single-calibration windows, valid review, sample ballots, and election notices on the Utah public as well as reflecting financial exposure's conflict of interest statements in regard to valid review, the city official will verify 153 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:09,960 that it was printed to admit state code and will sign off and have the data stating this ballot has been approved. 154 00:12:10,780 --> 00:12:15,360 Also, updating elected official changes, so around the year, not just during election, 155 00:12:16,060 --> 00:12:22,000 you will have city council change, mayors change, just doesn't like Bayette, Jeff Artichoke 156 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:22,360 on the new. 157 00:12:22,900 --> 00:12:34,320 One of those things is, you know, you have access to Google Docs, but you need to be updated 158 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:39,840 immediately so that we are able to update the state's website and everything. 159 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:47,160 When you say absence in a bolt and train, you protect your needs, we protect your needs 160 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:50,540 to follow from legal changes, security risks, and administrative delays. 161 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:53,440 You are never on an island to the process. 162 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:57,060 Our county wide network facility reporters is a wonderful resource. 163 00:12:57,620 --> 00:13:01,980 If you are ever unsure about a deadline or disposal room, lean under the new reporters. 164 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:05,460 Peer support across Africa County is one of our greatest strengths. 165 00:13:05,460 --> 00:13:06,480 and they will say, 166 00:13:07,260 --> 00:13:08,580 China is in e-rev, 167 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:12,220 and they see the incentives are amazing people 168 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:13,460 to lean on. 169 00:13:13,620 --> 00:13:16,080 If you have questions, they are awesome. 170 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:19,200 I also strongly encourage all reporters 171 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:21,580 who participate in the Lieutenant Governor's office, 172 00:13:22,020 --> 00:13:23,340 it's called the Browns' Memorial. 173 00:13:23,460 --> 00:13:25,420 It's a portal that connects you with the state election 174 00:13:25,420 --> 00:13:28,060 officials and reporters across the state of Utah 175 00:13:28,060 --> 00:13:29,260 to state current launching, 176 00:13:29,680 --> 00:13:31,420 launch changes and address practices. 177 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:34,560 Today, I am inviting you with the copy 178 00:13:34,560 --> 00:13:45,420 of the 2025 election calendar. I think Mary has one. But this is what it looks like. Actually, I don't know if Mary has one though. 179 00:13:46,580 --> 00:13:55,880 This is what it looks like. Green is municipal orange and in the blanks are just either both with combined or the LD's office. 180 00:13:55,880 --> 00:14:06,760 and district states every day on a year, and the state code connected to it on what is happening that day, day, night, and all of a sudden. 181 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:07,400 The 182 00:14:19,210 --> 00:14:24,490 first day almost calendar is actually January 1st, and it goes for the 15th. 183 00:14:24,670 --> 00:14:32,870 It also includes Milo State Code References and my strong in-person report to use these references to follow upcoming legislative sessions 184 00:14:32,870 --> 00:14:36,890 of any legislative change he can directly impact the global election climate. 185 00:14:37,410 --> 00:14:42,030 As many of you know, deadlines in the world of elections aren't suggestions, 186 00:14:42,470 --> 00:14:46,510 they are a statutory requirement, and mandates. 187 00:14:47,250 --> 00:14:52,370 Taking hand in election results, for example, most cities prefer to count this during a regularly 188 00:14:52,370 --> 00:14:53,450 scheduled city policy. 189 00:14:53,830 --> 00:14:59,970 However, they go strictly, they state that a child cannot happen sooner than 70s after the election. 190 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:29,360 And no later than 14 days after an election. That isn't the title and no will do just one week. Because of the judgment, because of the judgment should be made, shouldn't be made last minute. When you said your animal meeting has to begin with the year, we suggest that you post it to follow the most, but I take a look at your election timeline and adjust your meeting together accordingly to that election. So you're not having to 191 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:31,700 to do a special meeting just in your campus. 192 00:15:32,500 --> 00:15:34,600 If you'd refer to the executive summary 193 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:37,180 that I handed each of you, please note as the key 194 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:41,240 to 2020 deadline to primary elections in the new August, 195 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:44,600 and the general election is November 2nd, 2017. 196 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:47,300 The theme of the field's real results, 197 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:49,200 our assembly and county elections office was read, 198 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:52,500 was recently recognized by the superintendent governor's office 199 00:15:52,500 --> 00:15:54,380 of one of the five counties statewide 200 00:15:54,380 --> 00:15:56,320 just to receive an award at the state capital. 201 00:15:56,320 --> 00:16:03,000 For the elect, of excellence in elections, communications, best practices for voter education and outreach and accessibility. 202 00:16:03,820 --> 00:16:09,660 That recognition belongs to our entire election team and the municipalities of reporters who partner with us. 203 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:15,240 It shows that the immemorial county, because that state standards for clean, accessible, and secure elections. 204 00:16:15,820 --> 00:16:19,140 With that being said, I'd like to take a moment to discuss your figure of order. 205 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:24,980 We sincerely appreciate this support with the past two elections and the attendance that are most recent training. 206 00:16:24,980 --> 00:16:29,820 Next year, March is his first election, leading as the only one to ensure he has tools 207 00:16:29,820 --> 00:16:31,320 that work to thrive and succeed. 208 00:16:31,860 --> 00:16:36,420 To make that happen, active participation in all of the main current trainings and prompt 209 00:16:36,420 --> 00:16:40,020 static communication with our office will be essential. 210 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:45,980 That this is his election, and our role is to partner with him to ensure his seamless process. 211 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:49,960 We deeply value our partnership with every city and city county. 212 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:54,940 We're here to help guide you, but we do, but we do need your active seat. 213 00:16:54,940 --> 00:17:00,080 of the table. Staving, starting with training and balance engineering. Thank you for your 214 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:04,880 service in our community, and I haven't answered any questions about our integral agreement 215 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:10,660 training schedules, which is on 27. Question of rejections. I have one question, yes. 216 00:17:10,940 --> 00:17:15,160 On number 10, it says counter parts. This agreement that we answered can you tell the correct 217 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:19,480 slide of 3D in the time? Can you just explain what that means? It's right to look it up. 218 00:17:24,060 --> 00:17:29,180 And I can give the feeling that it needs both of us to do it, but I don't understand. 219 00:17:29,620 --> 00:17:31,780 Yes, that's exactly it. 220 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:38,780 And in this, in a local agreement, it does state that the city is responsible for certain things 221 00:17:38,780 --> 00:17:39,820 and the county is for it. 222 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:42,540 Thank you. 223 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:43,000 You're welcome. 224 00:17:45,300 --> 00:17:46,900 What was the cost in the past? 225 00:17:48,420 --> 00:17:49,340 I hope so. 226 00:17:49,340 --> 00:17:57,820 Yeah, it was, so my answer was to, well, everybody was 225 for Robert and I was a 4-0 for Robert. 227 00:17:59,620 --> 00:18:01,960 Yeah, that's a huge one. 228 00:18:04,900 --> 00:18:10,200 And I kind of lost track of what the legislature has done and what they've passed on, 229 00:18:10,300 --> 00:18:11,220 what they've provoked and passed. 230 00:18:11,220 --> 00:18:15,480 is now to city going to have to have their own ballot boxes 231 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:17,860 when they come to the municipal election, 232 00:18:18,220 --> 00:18:21,880 or will you be able to use the county drop box 233 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:23,580 or how is that going to work? 234 00:18:23,860 --> 00:18:25,700 So right now, now, if I drop box 235 00:18:25,700 --> 00:18:27,460 is the one that's at the county warehouse, 236 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:31,660 if wanted, we do have an extra little ballot box 237 00:18:31,660 --> 00:18:33,560 that could go inside and office 238 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:35,400 that can be locked and secured in there. 239 00:18:35,900 --> 00:18:38,460 The shop would need to pull work or stare 240 00:18:38,460 --> 00:18:41,080 I don't know why that's open, is that telling me what would work? 241 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:47,840 Um, no, the walk camera, so just having it on camera would be a thing, yeah, I think so, 242 00:18:47,900 --> 00:18:51,700 because you're not knowing as much as early detection and ballot, you're not just dropping 243 00:18:51,700 --> 00:18:57,880 the ballot box in the office, but, yes, people are just like, what everybody knows, they're 244 00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:00,980 trying to have the ballot box or a kind of match, and then even have a lot of people drop 245 00:19:00,980 --> 00:19:02,040 them off here, is okay. 246 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:03,040 Thank you. 247 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:03,620 You're welcome. 248 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:05,540 Other questions? 249 00:19:08,350 --> 00:19:09,190 I have one question. 250 00:19:09,470 --> 00:19:09,690 Okay. 251 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:30,500 So I don't know what the situation is this year, but if you've had a situation where there is a winner of a primary election and there are no other candidates for any other parties, do you still have to have a general election? 252 00:19:30,500 --> 00:19:33,320 I mean, are you talking about the accounting question? 253 00:19:33,700 --> 00:19:35,360 Because sitting with municipal elections 254 00:19:35,360 --> 00:19:36,460 are not for us. 255 00:19:36,980 --> 00:19:38,380 Yeah, so, yes. 256 00:19:38,860 --> 00:19:42,640 So, like, right now, like, age, for example, 257 00:19:43,140 --> 00:19:44,540 has no one running against him. 258 00:19:44,660 --> 00:19:45,720 I'll look right now, because the right 259 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:46,620 and the right has a question. 260 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:49,660 So, as of right now, yes, age will be on the general ballot. 261 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:52,260 Along with, like, when you'll be on the general ballot, 262 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:54,620 Kevin Daniels will be on it, June, June, 263 00:19:54,620 --> 00:19:55,160 he'll be on it. 264 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:57,260 Yes, there will be a general. 265 00:19:58,040 --> 00:19:58,300 Okay. 266 00:20:03,690 --> 00:20:05,070 Thank you very much. 267 00:20:05,190 --> 00:20:05,590 You're welcome. 268 00:20:05,930 --> 00:20:11,690 I would say for anyone who has not been to the first office to see the process of elections 269 00:20:11,690 --> 00:20:17,250 that they're concerned about, the safety and security, it's unbelievable what you guys do. 270 00:20:17,630 --> 00:20:22,330 So I really encourage everybody when they get the opportunity to talk to you about how you do it 271 00:20:22,330 --> 00:20:27,050 and how the process works because it was amazing. 272 00:20:27,410 --> 00:20:29,590 Thank you very much. 273 00:20:29,590 --> 00:20:31,230 Yeah, I was just having a good example. 274 00:20:31,390 --> 00:20:31,550 Yeah. 275 00:20:32,430 --> 00:20:33,550 Thank you. 276 00:20:33,710 --> 00:20:34,190 How are you doing? 277 00:20:34,450 --> 00:20:34,950 Thank you. 278 00:20:36,110 --> 00:20:36,850 All right. 279 00:20:37,030 --> 00:20:41,510 The next item is a discussion of the Urban Deer Removal Program. 280 00:20:42,170 --> 00:20:42,730 Removal. 281 00:20:43,030 --> 00:20:46,510 And we have some representatives from PWR here. 282 00:20:53,870 --> 00:20:54,970 I'm Rodney Olson. 283 00:20:55,330 --> 00:21:02,220 I am the Central Region Wildlife Biola on your program. 284 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:10,820 I've got this in the air while my manager is here with me to make sure that the title is 285 00:21:10,820 --> 00:21:11,240 screwed up. 286 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:12,540 So, let's see what happens. 287 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:14,780 Thanks for coming. 288 00:21:15,260 --> 00:21:15,640 You're welcome. 289 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:24,320 Now, I wasn't quite sure, I guess, do you just have questions about the CO2 or the program 290 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:28,940 or anything that I can answer, or I did really present 291 00:21:28,940 --> 00:21:34,380 or planned a presentation, but I'm here to answer questions. 292 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:36,320 So needed. 293 00:21:36,660 --> 00:21:37,620 So I have a question. 294 00:21:37,780 --> 00:21:37,920 Yes. 295 00:21:38,120 --> 00:21:42,800 The active date says August 1st, October 31st, 296 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:45,680 we can take 50 here for a year on the National City limits. 297 00:21:46,380 --> 00:21:49,780 Is there, what is the process to extend that date 298 00:21:49,780 --> 00:21:53,600 from October 31st to say, November 31st, 299 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:54,960 or something like that. 300 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:57,020 To increase 30 other days. 301 00:21:57,810 --> 00:22:02,700 Okay, so we're pretty, we're pretty sad on the cat 302 00:22:02,700 --> 00:22:04,920 and off on October 15th. 303 00:22:05,290 --> 00:22:08,580 And the reason why, yeah, it's over 31st. 304 00:22:08,940 --> 00:22:09,120 Pardon? 305 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:10,360 It's over 31st. 306 00:22:11,210 --> 00:22:12,580 It's over 31st. 307 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:18,760 Yeah, okay. 308 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:24,680 That was not supposed to be that way. 309 00:22:28,380 --> 00:22:32,300 I'm just making sure Halloween is a big, nothing like that. 310 00:22:32,620 --> 00:22:37,770 I don't know how that got changed. 311 00:22:38,410 --> 00:22:42,510 The last time I had seen it, we had an October 15th cutoff date on that. 312 00:22:43,550 --> 00:22:49,130 So we probably were going to have to re-address that and change that too. 313 00:22:50,030 --> 00:22:53,370 That should have read that October 15th is the cutoff date. 314 00:22:53,370 --> 00:22:56,070 And what's the reasoning for that? 315 00:22:56,070 --> 00:23:01,410 The reasoning is, so this whole program is designed to remove what we call urban deer, 316 00:23:01,990 --> 00:23:06,670 residential deer that are born and raised in the native town year round. 317 00:23:07,950 --> 00:23:12,670 What we've discovered over the years is, when we first implemented this program, I can 318 00:23:13,590 --> 00:23:21,850 to me, 12, I believe, at that time, we allowed removals to go from August 1st to December 31st. 319 00:23:21,850 --> 00:23:25,290 That's when we can appear to be removed. 320 00:23:26,310 --> 00:23:27,510 What we found with, 321 00:23:30,690 --> 00:23:33,250 about that time, color data 322 00:23:33,250 --> 00:23:35,330 started to come into play with animals. 323 00:23:35,930 --> 00:23:38,370 Tracking, you know, we put with GPS hours on. 324 00:23:39,110 --> 00:23:44,690 And what we discovered is after about the middle of October, 325 00:23:45,210 --> 00:23:48,510 is when we started getting the migration of mountaineer 326 00:23:48,510 --> 00:23:50,170 that come down into the cities. 327 00:23:52,250 --> 00:23:54,070 We've already moved the urban 328 00:23:54,070 --> 00:23:58,630 deer to city here and if we go past about 15 to October we 329 00:23:58,630 --> 00:24:04,090 ran the risk of so that the mountain deer, wild deer, they come 330 00:24:04,090 --> 00:24:09,110 down in October or November, you know, for the migration, they'll 331 00:24:09,110 --> 00:24:13,150 spend the winter down here and then they go back up on the mountains. 332 00:24:13,810 --> 00:24:16,110 Those are the deer that we do not want to rip. 333 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:29,760 Yeah, right. And the difference between the two different deer is, the deer that are born and raised here, this is their home, this is all they know, they don't know the mountains, they don't know the food yields. 334 00:24:31,180 --> 00:24:36,760 And so we're trying, that's the deer that we're trying to lower the numbers on, manage the population of those. 335 00:24:37,820 --> 00:24:43,180 you know, the, the, the migratory deer, the deer that are, that are doing the way they're supposed to. 336 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:46,960 They've been doing it for eons, and that's what we want to continue to do. 337 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:53,920 So that's why we, we regulate that cutoff date, you know, and make it shorter. 338 00:24:55,480 --> 00:25:00,360 You know, we've got some cities, Eagle Mountain, Elk Ridge, for instance. 339 00:25:00,360 --> 00:25:07,680 It's there in the program and we only allow them to remove deer from month of August and that's it that we cut them off 340 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:14,620 just because they're proximity to the to the big hills. It's a lot better. There's a lot more there. 341 00:25:15,420 --> 00:25:18,980 So that is the reason why we end it. 342 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:25,880 Do we know how many urban deer we have in the city of Antide and in the rough estimate? 343 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:33,400 I believe, I believe I've seen this that they came up with, it was 200 times a mile. 344 00:25:33,860 --> 00:25:41,900 And it's, and that's really a hard time to come up with because when you go out in New York, 345 00:25:42,120 --> 00:25:46,540 you know, usually when they, when they do these things, the best time to count beers at night, 346 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:50,460 you know, that's when they come out, it's easier to see what's going to happen. 347 00:25:50,460 --> 00:25:57,840 that. But did you count this group and then they switch way or moving and did you count 348 00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:05,480 them again? So it's more based on the number of complaints that you get from residents 349 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:14,220 and you know the issues that people have with the urban deer. Do 50 years generally each 350 00:26:14,220 --> 00:26:21,900 year that would get taken out? No. No. I believe. Fine. Yeah. Yeah. 351 00:26:22,120 --> 00:26:22,820 And why is that? 352 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:30,580 It's difficult. It's hard to, so the way that Mantai has been doing 353 00:26:30,580 --> 00:26:35,620 the last few years is light traffic and then, you know, if it's called a flow 354 00:26:35,620 --> 00:26:40,520 or traffic, it's a light traffic. You can imagine trying to get any water 355 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:45,540 of out into the cage, is pretty difficult. 356 00:26:45,820 --> 00:26:47,380 So there's a lot of, 357 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:51,460 my hours are going to catch near. 358 00:26:53,580 --> 00:26:54,960 It's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, 359 00:26:54,980 --> 00:26:56,620 it's, we've done that it's a difficult task. 360 00:26:57,360 --> 00:26:59,000 So aren't there a batch of items 361 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:01,500 that are timing this too, or thought I heard that? 362 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:04,300 No, not, not with this program. 363 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:08,040 So the city can, the, the two options 364 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:15,540 that city has as you can either use the trapping method, you know, a light track, or if you 365 00:27:15,540 --> 00:27:24,640 so waste you can find a product contractor or somebody that removes them with archery equipment, 366 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:25,960 that would be the suits. 367 00:27:29,860 --> 00:27:34,300 When the program first started, the majority of the animals were removed 368 00:27:34,300 --> 00:27:40,060 believed to be more done by a archery contractor that they did that. 369 00:27:42,110 --> 00:27:43,270 They had pretty good 370 00:27:43,270 --> 00:27:48,950 success with it but they had the reason that they don't do it anymore is they had 371 00:27:48,950 --> 00:27:55,410 been a problem with the days that we set out to remove, removed deer. They wanted to wait 372 00:27:55,410 --> 00:28:01,830 later in the deer because it's easier to remove them at that point. So they could 373 00:28:03,110 --> 00:28:08,810 They don't do it anymore, so all the cities that are left in the program are all doing 374 00:28:08,810 --> 00:28:11,270 the life tracking and working in that way. 375 00:28:12,230 --> 00:28:17,390 And that's the method that I urge cities to look at. 376 00:28:18,010 --> 00:28:22,950 Anytime you have somebody that's shooting archery equipment inside a city, 377 00:28:23,110 --> 00:28:24,930 you know, they were careful. 378 00:28:25,270 --> 00:28:30,030 I don't know that they had any major problems, accidents or anything like that. 379 00:28:30,030 --> 00:28:35,590 But going with the life trap and pretty much eliminating the life ability issue. 380 00:28:39,500 --> 00:28:54,880 Five-year, that's already putting it down, and it's just one of those that is what you guys decide to do, you know, it is. 381 00:28:56,820 --> 00:29:03,620 Depending on the actual numbers now, you might not even keep up with the rate of replenishing on them, 382 00:29:03,620 --> 00:29:08,780 But a lot of cities use this to not so much control 383 00:29:08,780 --> 00:29:12,000 the population, but to try to help the presidents 384 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:15,160 and citizens with certain problems that they 385 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:16,680 have in their neighborhoods. 386 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:21,860 In other cities, I've seen where, for the majority 387 00:29:21,860 --> 00:29:24,920 of the towns, they don't have very few in here, 388 00:29:25,020 --> 00:29:27,120 but they don't have certain spots throughout that town. 389 00:29:27,340 --> 00:29:31,960 We're deersing to congregate and cause a group of presidents 390 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:37,960 or a neighbor that is on a lot of grief, and that's where they concentrate their efforts. 391 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:44,120 So if outside of these times, I've had one of the least ones that was in contact with 392 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:48,000 the aggressive deer that's been hanging out in my yard, like she was going to let her 393 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:51,940 dogs out as the deer would be there, and it was standing in front of the towards her and towards 394 00:29:51,940 --> 00:29:52,340 the dogs. 395 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:57,700 What would be the best thing for people to do if that happens outside of this person? 396 00:29:57,700 --> 00:29:59,980 So if you have a regressing... 397 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:28,780 Here they can call the division, and we can come out, and you know, we make a case by case, you know, if, if there's, you know, what will happen, especially, there's two times of the year that there will typically be a little bit more aggressive, that's in the fall when they're going to run. They tend to be not wanting to be messed with, you know, left alone. And then the other time that we get calls on a dressing year, 398 00:30:28,780 --> 00:30:32,580 is in the springtime and the dose starter up in the bonds. 399 00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:38,460 And a lot of times, you know, they'll call it and talk to us. 400 00:30:38,660 --> 00:30:40,840 We can come out and look at it in the middle of the week. 401 00:30:41,780 --> 00:30:44,580 A lot of times is just mostly, yeah. 402 00:30:45,220 --> 00:30:47,100 It's probably got a bond, you know, 403 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:50,160 if you give it a little bit of space and allowing it, 404 00:30:51,060 --> 00:30:53,560 let the bond get to where they can get it to move it. 405 00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:55,800 You know, they'll be used to those ways. 406 00:30:56,440 --> 00:31:01,720 If there's a public safety issue, they can call us and if you can look at it. 407 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:08,980 Sometimes we just talk about what the process is and who that is. 408 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:16,120 I was going to ask, is it accurate that the residents here are not at all healthy 409 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:17,820 because they're not eating the right stuff? 410 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:24,380 Yes, so they're not in near the condition as the wild there 411 00:31:24,380 --> 00:31:30,800 because they're not eating the right diet that the deer should eat, you know, they're wrong. 412 00:31:30,860 --> 00:31:36,580 You can say, think, you know, yeah, roses, tomato plants, it's not, you know, deer rather, 413 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:43,220 so they can eat it and they've been eating it their whole life, they can survive on it, 414 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:48,740 they can get by on it, but as far as the healthy deer, they're not healthy. 415 00:31:48,740 --> 00:31:55,360 When we were at the beginning of the program, we were trapping and relocating and doing 416 00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:56,200 the legal removal. 417 00:31:56,560 --> 00:32:03,520 And when we tracked, when we tracked a deer, it was pretty easy to determine if it was 418 00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:07,320 a wild deer or if it was an urban deer, just by conditions. 419 00:32:07,740 --> 00:32:14,900 Muscle, fat on, there's pretty good distinction between the two of them. 420 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:24,060 Is there any concern with your department, I mean, in a real community like this, where you have a dear population, 421 00:32:24,260 --> 00:32:29,420 is for punishing it, I've got a greater rate than when they're being removed. 422 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:34,240 They're in a situation in the habitat, but they're really on no predator, right? 423 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:36,420 I'm sorry, with Jason's GNC truck. 424 00:32:36,620 --> 00:32:38,060 Yeah, yeah. 425 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:44,400 And, you know, that's, it's so it's a problem that's just going to exponentially get worse 426 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:49,820 that more people come in, more plants, gardens, things like that, you know, it's just going 427 00:32:49,820 --> 00:32:50,700 to perpetuate. 428 00:32:51,940 --> 00:32:58,440 Is there, is there a feeling that maybe something a little bit more drastic needs to be done 429 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:01,360 in order to try to put it again in the situation? 430 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:08,500 Yeah, so, you know, going forward, I mean, if you were looking at the triandermoon more 431 00:33:08,500 --> 00:33:14,860 near from the line skating, the best way to do that would be to increase the number of 432 00:33:14,860 --> 00:33:15,720 traps that you have now. 433 00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:19,420 I'm not sure how many men died using the last few years. 434 00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:25,400 I think they had, they were using five or six possibly. 435 00:33:26,980 --> 00:33:35,120 You know, so the more you put out on the landscape, the more chances and better chances you have of the catch-and-ear in the dream of the more of them. 436 00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:41,020 But you're right, about the only predator that they have is cars. 437 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:47,840 So do you have any suggestions for the citizens that are in town? 438 00:33:48,060 --> 00:33:52,080 I mean, I've got everything I don't want them to eat pretty much just that soft. 439 00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:57,400 Sure, the best thing for people to do is they outlands hate, they don't want to serve. 440 00:33:57,900 --> 00:34:02,860 Yeah, they can't have picked all my tomatoes that were on the plant that was right next to mine. 441 00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:06,320 Let me guess, they only take one white out of one tomato and then they move to the plant. 442 00:34:06,340 --> 00:34:08,160 They left three of the green ones in one white. 443 00:34:08,660 --> 00:34:13,200 They're at one stage, and it's kind of an experiment because it was literally right next to my front door. 444 00:34:13,500 --> 00:34:13,660 Sure. 445 00:34:14,020 --> 00:34:14,960 How close will they be? 446 00:34:15,180 --> 00:34:16,900 Yeah, don't come right next to your plant. 447 00:34:16,900 --> 00:34:24,420 So, yes, a fancy, an eight-foot fence around what you want to protect is a guaranteed key to do around it. 448 00:34:24,980 --> 00:34:30,400 That's 100%, but with the understanding that that could be expensive and, you know, why not be? 449 00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:31,260 It's awkward. 450 00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:43,880 Yeah, so the, the, the, the spiel or the, the talk that I give to people, and I get a lot of calls just about the weekly of people with, you know, 451 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:48,520 I'm complaining concerns about deer in regard to the zing in regard to certain plants or 452 00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:55,340 bushes. There are, there's a lot of things out on the market that people swear that 453 00:34:55,340 --> 00:35:02,860 their work is the electronics stuff. There's the flagging lights containing salt, human 454 00:35:02,860 --> 00:35:09,760 hair. I've listed all of them and I've looked at all of them and none of them, as I know, 455 00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:16,100 any of them work. They might work in individual cases, but it's not something that I say yet. 456 00:35:16,240 --> 00:35:25,320 It's the only thing that I can give you suggestion on with deer in New York is there's an item out there 457 00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:32,620 called the Scarif Crow Sprinkler. It's a Sprinkler's Sprinkler's Sprinkler, well it's a 458 00:35:32,620 --> 00:35:39,240 designed Sprinkler for this purpose, but it has a motion sensor on it. So you look at your 459 00:35:39,240 --> 00:35:41,480 You turn water on, you stick it in your yard. 460 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:47,800 Twenty-four said it works, it suddenly comes in and breaks that vein, it sprays in your design 461 00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:56,920 to be a little bit louder than regular sprinklers, so it's not so much that it sprays the 462 00:35:56,920 --> 00:36:00,800 scares me, it's that startling, you know, a little bit of it. 463 00:36:01,860 --> 00:36:03,040 That works really well. 464 00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:07,600 I'd recommend that in the point of the years, I've had several people that have called me 465 00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:12,440 back after and saying that was amazing, that was great. There are a couple of secrets and 466 00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:18,940 tricks to using those. You get these, you know, and people depend on how big of an area 467 00:36:18,940 --> 00:36:23,620 you're trying to protect. You might want to put two or three of them, put them in tandem. 468 00:36:24,700 --> 00:36:29,620 But the big secret is, do not put them, just don't stick them through yet, it's not like 469 00:36:29,620 --> 00:36:34,940 they're on goal. Don't send it to forget it, you know. Go out and move it every couple, 470 00:36:34,940 --> 00:36:40,580 two or three days and move it even 10 feet or a different angle or whatever, because 471 00:36:40,580 --> 00:36:49,120 deer are very, they have habits and they, you know, a deer will get up and it will 472 00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:54,060 go down the same path every morning at the same time, you know, it will go the same way. 473 00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:59,060 So what the idea is is when you're dealing with deer that are causing you problems is you want 474 00:36:59,060 --> 00:37:04,280 try and break that cycle. It won't happen overnight. It takes some 475 00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:09,960 diligence to keep on it. If you keep messing that up and messing 476 00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:14,040 them up and not letting them figure out where it's at eventually 477 00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:18,420 over time, most deer will move. They'll change their habits and they'll 478 00:37:18,420 --> 00:37:22,060 build those somewhere else. And it's really important to turn 479 00:37:30,860 --> 00:37:38,040 So that right there is, you know, the other suggestions I tell people is, you know, I'll be 480 00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:41,960 talking to somebody and they'll be on the phone with me and they'll stop and say, I'll 481 00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:49,400 then damn you or right there under my voice, they're just, don't let the deer be comfortable, 482 00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:56,180 You know they they don't like to be bothered they'd like to be let alone in peace 483 00:37:56,180 --> 00:38:02,880 You know they're flouting out so every time you see them out there underneath your trees or in your garden or whatever go out 484 00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:08,240 run off, you know, bang the car on some pants throw rocks at them 485 00:38:08,860 --> 00:38:16,980 spray with the hose, you know, do and like I say, you know people will do it and they do it a couple of times and no 486 00:38:16,980 --> 00:38:23,420 No, it doesn't work, but it's that consistency 487 00:38:23,420 --> 00:38:26,420 doing it every single time, every single time. 488 00:38:27,180 --> 00:38:30,440 If I'm fortunate to go out on this fork and end, 489 00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:32,880 but where I live, I wouldn't manage for it, 490 00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:35,040 and the neighborhood that we live in, we don't have. 491 00:38:35,380 --> 00:38:37,620 We live far enough in if we don't have here, 492 00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:40,820 but I always tell people, I would guarantee you 493 00:38:40,820 --> 00:38:43,080 that if I had here in New York that I didn't want there, 494 00:38:57,140 --> 00:39:04,840 And I can say, these are not sure if we're in a combination of all of them together or 495 00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:05,900 you can start to. 496 00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:10,720 We didn't use to have a problem. 497 00:39:10,720 --> 00:39:16,780 No, 15 years ago, things just started building and building. 498 00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:22,680 Well, and I'll tell you a little bit about that, and I've talked to other people in 499 00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:23,160 other cities. 500 00:39:23,420 --> 00:39:24,460 Springville was one of them. 501 00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:29,100 I went to the city council meeting there, and the lady stood up and she says, I lived 502 00:39:29,100 --> 00:39:34,500 in Springville for 35 years, and we never had this many deer in Springville. 503 00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:43,980 And partially true, but partially it's not true what happened 35 years ago is, and I'm sure 504 00:39:43,980 --> 00:39:50,980 it's the same thing with Manta, Manta was 35 years ago, was probably half the size it 505 00:39:50,980 --> 00:39:51,380 is now. 506 00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:58,060 I don't know, I'm just putting numbers out there, but you have a lot more undeveloped ground. 507 00:39:58,060 --> 00:40:05,140 Now, every time you build a house or you develop a piece of your house, you just tighten 508 00:40:05,140 --> 00:40:06,620 it out of the space up from here. 509 00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:12,620 So I think with Springville, they've always had gear, but they've just spread out in 510 00:40:12,620 --> 00:40:13,540 a larger area. 511 00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:20,320 The Springville develops and a lot of it, a lot of it is developed and you're just tightening 512 00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:21,000 that space. 513 00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:28,760 So all of a sudden, you had, you know, 100 years spread out over 58 years and now they're 514 00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:37,460 comprising into 20 years, you know, so I think the numbers, I don't know that we have 515 00:40:37,460 --> 00:40:44,000 any data that really show that, but that's what I suspect is, it's not so much more 516 00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:47,480 So, 517 00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:57,280 in terms of this renewal, it's not that we have to put it into play, but if we need to, 518 00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:03,340 you have the option, because if we don't renew, then we don't have the option. 519 00:41:03,620 --> 00:41:04,120 That is correct. 520 00:41:05,180 --> 00:41:11,560 So, yeah, there's nothing in there that says that if you don't remove the error, 521 00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:13,540 we're going to come in right here. 522 00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:23,880 No, it's just so that you have the authority and the option that if you want to, you can 523 00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:24,320 do it. 524 00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:27,160 We want you to get Delta Force and come in. 525 00:41:30,260 --> 00:41:35,280 Well, if you go back, I think I've done a little bit of reading and back ease. 526 00:41:35,500 --> 00:41:38,540 There's some communities back there that kind of do that. 527 00:41:38,660 --> 00:41:43,260 They'll hire private contractors that specialize 528 00:41:43,260 --> 00:41:49,720 and using suppressed firearms, you know, they all back out. 529 00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:54,540 Because back ease, you know, is you think that we've got a lot of deer? 530 00:41:54,620 --> 00:41:57,220 They're sitting back there, they're just overrun with the white deer, 531 00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:01,560 and there's a lot of problems back there. 532 00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:05,700 Any other questions from any of them? 533 00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:07,300 Thank you very much. 534 00:42:07,580 --> 00:42:09,600 You're welcome information for white deer. 535 00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:10,780 Thank you. 536 00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:16,660 And if you have any further questions down the road, be sure to give me a hard one. 537 00:42:18,610 --> 00:42:19,130 Thank you. 538 00:42:19,370 --> 00:42:19,510 Okay. 539 00:42:19,830 --> 00:42:20,030 Thank you. 540 00:42:23,660 --> 00:42:29,240 So with the proposal to renew, 541 00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:36,760 I guess we need to check a date on that, but I think 542 00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:47,080 we can still accept a motion to renew that the program to give us the option and then 543 00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:49,180 we will have it available which is the usage. 544 00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:53,560 So I will accept a motion to renew the program. 545 00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:54,300 All right. 546 00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:58,180 I'll make a motion that we renew the Earth and give it a little program. 547 00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:07,120 I'm motion made by Brian Francois, and seconded by Mary Pipes, all in favor. 548 00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:09,600 Any opposed? 549 00:43:10,940 --> 00:43:13,720 The motion passes, will check, and get back. 550 00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:22,140 And I will check on how far to put my doubt about the date on that, and we'll get it 551 00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:24,880 done. 552 00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:25,280 Yeah. 553 00:43:25,580 --> 00:43:27,660 As long as you have the Dean and you 554 00:43:30,220 --> 00:43:30,480 - 555 00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:30,740 Okay. 556 00:43:30,980 --> 00:43:31,180 Great. 557 00:43:31,460 --> 00:43:31,820 All right. 558 00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:32,960 Thank you again for- 559 00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:33,820 Sorry, I didn't mean what. 560 00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:35,000 I thought you were done. 561 00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:35,360 No. 562 00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:36,960 And- 563 00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:42,820 And don't run into any gear since it's now that I'm getting most of us on your way home. 564 00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:43,120 No. 565 00:43:43,380 --> 00:43:44,420 I wouldn't leave that on there. 566 00:43:45,740 --> 00:43:46,180 Thank you. 567 00:43:46,180 --> 00:43:46,380 Okay. 568 00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:47,480 Happy new year. 569 00:43:47,860 --> 00:43:48,000 Thank you. 570 00:43:48,460 --> 00:43:49,220 Happy new year. 571 00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:49,900 Yeah. 572 00:43:51,100 --> 00:43:52,400 Oh, there you go with that. 573 00:43:52,540 --> 00:43:53,340 Renewable program. 574 00:43:53,660 --> 00:43:54,320 Thank you. 575 00:43:56,420 --> 00:44:04,960 All right. The next item on our agenda is the monthly financial reports. And McCain, will you take care of that for us please? 576 00:44:05,620 --> 00:44:15,020 I'll do it again. All right. So just as a reminder, everybody want to come to the budget here. So that's about 8% for the usual part. 577 00:44:15,020 --> 00:44:20,020 So, that's just helpful as we go through these numbers to understand. 578 00:44:21,260 --> 00:44:26,900 Since my nausea is not going to be going over every number, you can see it up here and 579 00:44:26,900 --> 00:44:29,840 I'll at least go through what I know to see it at least. 580 00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:30,520 Great. 581 00:44:33,020 --> 00:44:37,100 So, I'm only going to go over most of the year to date about that green column. 582 00:44:37,100 --> 00:44:44,460 You can see here, this is General Finance, where I told her a news about a few, few thousand. 583 00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:51,000 In General Finance, I scroll down and you can see expensive, but General Finance as well, 584 00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:55,700 is fully equipped with a trim bottom total. 585 00:44:58,450 --> 00:44:59,970 So, we've got a total of... 586 00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:16,580 316,000 members, this is for the expenses. Also, we're always over the expenses for the first six months in the year. Once they start to work there, they spend a lot on 587 00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:24,940 to specific revenue. Nothing going on now, we know. And the 588 00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:34,520 pricing forms, which do they speak of, kind of, it started. And the pricing here is in black. 589 00:45:49,090 --> 00:46:01,070 All right, next item on the agenda is recreation director Luke Rowley to speak with us about the Duncan Hill proposals. 590 00:46:13,650 --> 00:46:20,390 We received a grant for $5,000, a year, well it's been a year and a half ago. 591 00:46:21,090 --> 00:46:30,470 We were supposed to finish the grant up last year, but we pushed it off just because we were trying to come up with a better location for the discount course, that kind of stuff. 592 00:46:30,470 --> 00:46:38,070 This year, we've got a proposal for you to put it on Duncan Hill, so we can't pull those 593 00:46:38,070 --> 00:46:44,190 pictures off a little bit with you, but while I'm waiting for him, a couple things that 594 00:46:44,190 --> 00:46:49,830 I'm going to talk about, we have a company, it's a nonprofit company called Elbeque Talk. 595 00:46:50,490 --> 00:46:56,650 They've helped design several big courses, for example, they designed the course that the 596 00:46:56,650 --> 00:47:01,850 women's national U.S.A. team just came and played with me and talked up in, where was that 597 00:47:01,850 --> 00:47:02,030 man? 598 00:47:02,670 --> 00:47:03,930 Talking right. 599 00:47:04,250 --> 00:47:06,710 It was the U.S. women's self-champing shipment. 600 00:47:06,950 --> 00:47:08,950 This is a major professional business. 601 00:47:09,330 --> 00:47:15,710 Yeah, so this company that we're working with has design courses like that, so, and they've 602 00:47:15,710 --> 00:47:25,290 actually, so our grants for $5,000, they actually help me get 17 baskets already donated 603 00:47:25,290 --> 00:47:32,450 to us, which is where the value of $6,000 is all going to sell it, and so a couple things 604 00:47:32,450 --> 00:47:36,770 about disc golf, it's kind of like a regular golf course, if you look right here, you can 605 00:47:36,770 --> 00:47:43,710 see your opening kiosk has all your clothes laid out for you, and then each hole has its own 606 00:47:43,710 --> 00:47:44,850 little, has 607 00:47:47,500 --> 00:47:53,200 a basket on it like this, they'll have teeth pads, these are just some examples 608 00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:54,540 from different forces around. 609 00:47:57,560 --> 00:48:14,840 So if you have usually looks like this for this year we wouldn't do concrete, we would want to do turf so that we can actually move them depending on the bicycle trails that we put in and traffic to see how close that kind of stuff and then after the first year we would go back into putting concrete paths. 610 00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:18,860 So that would be a bit of a different phase to it. 611 00:48:18,900 --> 00:48:22,320 This year we would be doing nine holes, not the whole 18, 612 00:48:22,940 --> 00:48:26,960 but they would actually design the whole 18 for up there on the Duncan Hill. 613 00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:33,400 It would start down, I felt the parking lot over just east of the temple. 614 00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:39,800 On 300, I want to say 300 east, there's that little blast spot that looks like the parking lot. 615 00:48:40,260 --> 00:48:42,040 That's where we're talking about starting it. 616 00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:47,080 it would go up to a whole number one, and then whole number two would be to clear up on top. 617 00:48:47,340 --> 00:48:51,960 So those first two goals would be tuples, and then out to that you're up on top 618 00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:52,900 where I'll abuse them. 619 00:48:53,420 --> 00:48:59,160 And so a couple of things that we've talked about with them is they would design the course for us. 620 00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:04,340 They would do all the signage for us, create the size, and I'll give you some of those. 621 00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:13,360 Here's an example of one of the signs that they built for another city. 622 00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:17,160 and so it shows where your key box is, 623 00:49:17,380 --> 00:49:20,960 shows where the basket is, with actual trees 624 00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:22,860 and everything that would be in that location. 625 00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:25,980 And they've already come down, it's been about 10 hours 626 00:49:25,980 --> 00:49:28,040 down here already, walking, but from here, 627 00:49:28,140 --> 00:49:30,540 to make sure that it would be a good enough 628 00:49:30,540 --> 00:49:32,760 portion of these old tournaments and different things 629 00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:35,380 like that, to bring in some revenue in that way. 630 00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:38,080 But it's also old enough for the public, 631 00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:40,200 just to go out and use it any time as well. 632 00:49:40,720 --> 00:49:47,100 And so I'll tell you another reason why I want to use them, if you, we have any disc offers 633 00:49:47,100 --> 00:49:47,900 out to you guys. 634 00:49:48,700 --> 00:49:49,940 If you've got already groups course. 635 00:49:50,220 --> 00:49:50,880 Ten more times. 636 00:49:51,240 --> 00:49:51,380 Okay. 637 00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:52,000 Do you like it? 638 00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:53,860 It's a pretty rugged course. 639 00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:57,260 Really rugged course because they haven't done a good job maintaining the trails. 640 00:49:57,700 --> 00:50:01,220 Their key boxes and signs are in front of the key boxes. 641 00:50:01,420 --> 00:50:02,460 We wouldn't play the other day. 642 00:50:02,460 --> 00:50:03,300 That's why I know that. 643 00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:08,960 So in your way, so basically they have so many of them sitting over there, 644 00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:14,740 I don't know if you're a wrecked wrecker or a parker who was just going to design it because 645 00:50:14,740 --> 00:50:16,660 they probably played a little bit of this ball. 646 00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:23,160 But it's not really an addition of course and they've already been design it three times. 647 00:50:24,100 --> 00:50:27,400 So that's why I want a professional to come in and help myself the first time. 648 00:50:29,580 --> 00:50:36,300 So here's more, just things that they've done, elevating you to, so a kiosk. 649 00:50:36,300 --> 00:50:42,860 So, just kind of, well, the wrong way in this mouse is backwards from our mouse. 650 00:50:43,820 --> 00:50:49,740 Yeah. So, they come in, they've had the hardest coming in and 651 00:50:49,740 --> 00:50:56,260 make different areas, different things like that. So, just a huge health course. 652 00:50:56,780 --> 00:51:03,020 And that would take our $5,000 to have them design the course, and then have them build the 653 00:51:03,020 --> 00:51:08,020 Each sign is about $100 each and then the bigger signs are about $500. 654 00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:11,840 So you're talking $1500 in signage. 655 00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:16,120 They design the course and they'll help build the course with us. 656 00:51:16,700 --> 00:51:19,160 And so there's pretty much work for free. 657 00:51:19,500 --> 00:51:22,100 When you think of the mountain hours, they're putting into it. 658 00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:24,260 Like I said, they've already put in 10 hours. 659 00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:25,680 They've already got 10. 660 00:51:26,500 --> 00:51:30,500 I mean, they've already got about $5,000 worth of baskets still made into us. 661 00:51:31,020 --> 00:51:31,780 That kind of stuff. 662 00:51:32,500 --> 00:51:36,460 They'll leave the catch I can have as we can move on quickly because they have to have 663 00:51:36,460 --> 00:51:44,760 a finish find out mid on October and on my paperwork, turn it in, and so that's why I'm asking 664 00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:49,200 you guys to approve that area, to have a disc off there. 665 00:51:49,940 --> 00:51:55,040 They also are willing to work with us with the bicycle paths that we've already kind of have 666 00:51:55,040 --> 00:52:00,260 ideas for, because part of their thing is they don't want a lot of their traffic, whereas 667 00:52:00,260 --> 00:52:07,580 with hair on the bicycle tracks as well. So they're pretty conscious of everything involved in 668 00:52:07,580 --> 00:52:13,080 making sure that that hill is treated right and the wind of a awesome discourse. 669 00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:18,180 So it could be used for more than one thing. It could be used for more than just 670 00:52:18,180 --> 00:52:23,280 it's got pointy. The five down three hours? No, the five down three hours has to be used just 671 00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:28,900 so we can still have like trails up there and crop trails. Yeah, so the walking trails and the 672 00:52:28,900 --> 00:52:34,520 And this all trails actually go hand in hand because we want nice trails to be able to get to the basket and that kind of stuff. 673 00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:39,180 Okay, so I have never played this golf. How many places have gone? 674 00:52:39,300 --> 00:52:42,240 So you take a frisbee and you're on that T.O. box. 675 00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:44,240 Don't call it frisbee. 676 00:52:45,060 --> 00:52:46,380 Yes, yes. 677 00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:49,240 I need you to understand frisbee. 678 00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:56,280 So you're standing here and you are launching your disc clear out up in here. 679 00:53:04,420 --> 00:53:06,900 So you can throw it and then you walk to it. 680 00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:11,560 Yeah, but they're all good and then yeah, usually they're about a par three, par four or four. 681 00:53:11,720 --> 00:53:17,720 So we do have some amazing shots on our spot where they can do some of those longer shots, 682 00:53:17,720 --> 00:53:20,040 where it would be a par four, a little more challenging. 683 00:53:20,580 --> 00:53:26,420 And all the other thing with this company, I mentioned they will design all 18 moles of 684 00:53:26,420 --> 00:53:33,080 the full plans all together, and on the geos it will show the first 9 moles being in place, 685 00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:37,740 and then they'll have kind of dotted lines where the next phase 2 will be. 686 00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:43,220 And that way when it's time to put in the phase 2 we put it in, and we can use the same geos 687 00:53:43,220 --> 00:53:44,500 so I can go have three designs. 688 00:53:44,500 --> 00:53:52,020 It's real, it's real that this and then you spend the next hour looking for it, but I have to play golf. 689 00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:55,540 Pull up local basket up there. 690 00:53:56,200 --> 00:54:01,500 So what you're doing is you're going that basket and you're actually going to have to change the thing down. 691 00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:07,340 So when this hits the chains, it actually develops it and then drops it. 692 00:54:07,500 --> 00:54:10,340 That way you know you're in the hole basically. 693 00:54:11,780 --> 00:54:15,540 So Lou, you're talking about the $5,000 grant. 694 00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:16,300 Correct. 695 00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:21,240 So we've got to do a matching percent, 30% of that, 696 00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:25,480 but a lot of that can be in any time which we've already got 697 00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:26,640 because of the baskets. 698 00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:30,380 So it would probably be about $1,000 of the most 699 00:54:30,380 --> 00:54:31,500 to do this project. 700 00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:33,380 For $9,000? 701 00:54:33,380 --> 00:54:34,160 For $9,000. 702 00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:34,260 Yeah. 703 00:54:34,740 --> 00:54:35,280 $1,000. 704 00:54:35,740 --> 00:54:35,880 Yeah. 705 00:54:36,460 --> 00:54:40,360 So it would be to design 18 of the finished 9. 706 00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:44,340 But did I read that the city career rule is responsible 707 00:54:44,340 --> 00:54:46,000 to construct the course? 708 00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:47,140 Did I read that right or? 709 00:54:47,420 --> 00:54:47,780 And what? 710 00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:48,180 And what? 711 00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:48,940 And what? 712 00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:49,320 And what? 713 00:54:49,540 --> 00:54:51,220 And the company also. 714 00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:52,340 They will be talking. 715 00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:56,900 But I was figure, like my students will help 716 00:54:56,900 --> 00:54:59,480 the two I would rather done for the year, 717 00:54:59,620 --> 00:55:00,380 so probably not them. 718 00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:04,220 But we would have, like the idea of volunteers coming 719 00:55:04,220 --> 00:55:07,380 and that also counts toward very kind of matching, 720 00:55:07,580 --> 00:55:09,420 but we don't really need it to work way over 721 00:55:09,420 --> 00:55:10,880 on our entire kind of matching. 722 00:55:11,780 --> 00:55:16,400 So, there are enthusiasts who would have no problem 723 00:55:17,060 --> 00:55:18,980 drop everything you're on there and you can help. 724 00:55:19,240 --> 00:55:21,680 Yeah, so it's kind of like a problem. 725 00:55:22,180 --> 00:55:22,980 Yeah, it's not a problem. 726 00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:25,240 Right, right back there's one of them. 727 00:55:25,300 --> 00:55:26,980 Can you just get all of his kids signed up 728 00:55:26,980 --> 00:55:28,960 to already help to do this project? 729 00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:31,740 And so, yeah, so a lot of them. 730 00:55:31,740 --> 00:55:32,300 How many reasons? 731 00:55:32,300 --> 00:55:35,760 So I'm just, I teach six grade over at the middle school, 732 00:55:35,940 --> 00:55:37,300 like you from, but I've been here many times. 733 00:55:38,660 --> 00:55:41,320 This all, I've been playing this all since 2012, 734 00:55:42,380 --> 00:55:43,440 but I've been playing this all since 2012. 735 00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:45,940 He started the team, at least the amount of shots 736 00:55:45,940 --> 00:55:47,340 to get into the basket, right? 737 00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:47,980 That kind of thing. 738 00:55:48,420 --> 00:55:50,300 But I've talked to quite a few people in the community 739 00:55:50,300 --> 00:55:52,140 that have already said that they would be willing 740 00:55:52,140 --> 00:55:54,840 to volunteer for the work to help us put in. 741 00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:58,040 Number of people, we've got this all baskets 742 00:55:58,040 --> 00:56:01,020 in the middle school now that they're teaching this all 743 00:56:01,020 --> 00:56:07,680 a lot of kids, I think, in my class, I show them things and stuff, so the kids are getting 744 00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:11,220 in, there's about it as well, basically the plastic with it. 745 00:56:11,220 --> 00:56:18,860 Um, my real goal, this is something that anybody, any kid that knows how to throw at the 746 00:56:18,860 --> 00:56:25,520 S, can do on here, may take on 10 shots to get into the basket, but it's not necessarily 747 00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:31,960 The skill level, it's the getting out there with your family and other friends and things and a thing involved. 748 00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:33,200 It's a very good thing. 749 00:56:33,240 --> 00:56:37,300 We've got to see them play tournaments and things with kids from as young as eight, nine years old, 750 00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:39,620 to people in the first six, eight, and seven years of their play. 751 00:56:39,940 --> 00:56:42,440 So, I mean, didn't even get to be about like 13 years old. 752 00:56:42,820 --> 00:56:44,360 So, yeah. 753 00:56:44,940 --> 00:56:45,400 That's a problem. 754 00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:49,500 Okay, so let's circle on that to the parking. 755 00:56:50,140 --> 00:56:54,960 So parking, we've left down at the bottom of that hill, right where that flat is. 756 00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:58,880 I know where that is and there's a lot of space there. 757 00:56:58,900 --> 00:57:00,800 How many have grown is a problem? 758 00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:01,360 Yeah. 759 00:57:01,540 --> 00:57:01,940 The growth. 760 00:57:02,180 --> 00:57:02,920 The growth. 761 00:57:03,240 --> 00:57:03,600 The growth. 762 00:57:03,900 --> 00:57:06,060 That would be something we would have to address 763 00:57:06,060 --> 00:57:06,860 is that growth. 764 00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:08,120 That would be an issue. 765 00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:11,260 I think that would be a bigger problem than anything else 766 00:57:11,260 --> 00:57:12,660 would be in parking in front of us. 767 00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:14,280 I agree with that. 768 00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:15,460 If I can do that so. 769 00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:19,600 That would be included in a whole fair of larger plans 770 00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:21,820 for trails and parks and so forth. 771 00:57:22,420 --> 00:57:24,660 It's going to happen when you're without this car. 772 00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:25,800 The market. 773 00:57:26,220 --> 00:57:26,660 Yeah, the market. 774 00:57:27,100 --> 00:57:28,840 A lot of our kids are concerned with this car. 775 00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:30,680 Yeah, I don't have a bit of braking, ski resort. 776 00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:31,180 They have it. 777 00:57:31,460 --> 00:57:33,680 But this car, of course, they're just held in bigger than that. 778 00:57:33,940 --> 00:57:36,000 They also have mountain bike trails there, 779 00:57:36,180 --> 00:57:37,720 and they work together very well. 780 00:57:38,080 --> 00:57:39,900 And they'll be able to have a sign of that course 781 00:57:39,900 --> 00:57:42,000 around those mountain bike trails as well. 782 00:57:42,520 --> 00:57:44,580 So they've had experience with that in the past. 783 00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:48,800 The other questions. 784 00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:53,460 I think the biggest benefit is that we'll get families out together today. 785 00:57:53,460 --> 00:57:54,160 That's all. 786 00:57:57,950 --> 00:57:59,230 Thanks for the information. 787 00:58:00,330 --> 00:58:04,670 Okay, and like I said, we've got to move on quick because otherwise we'll just throw away the background. 788 00:58:05,070 --> 00:58:07,490 So, thank you. 789 00:58:07,850 --> 00:58:08,250 Thank you. 790 00:58:08,810 --> 00:58:09,110 Thank you. 791 00:58:09,210 --> 00:58:11,930 You guys can know when I'll hear you back from your room. 792 00:58:13,290 --> 00:58:14,370 Not that I'm talking about the kids. 793 00:58:14,390 --> 00:58:16,330 Well, you should say you're dead like a doctor. 794 00:58:16,870 --> 00:58:20,750 Mid-October, it's got to be finished like all my paperwork and everything has to be finished. 795 00:58:20,750 --> 00:58:24,470 I'm going to have to do it in the end of the set of timber I'm going to have to do the skull. 796 00:58:24,590 --> 00:58:26,110 Everything finished like the course. 797 00:58:26,470 --> 00:58:26,570 Yeah. 798 00:58:26,950 --> 00:58:28,250 Never done like that. 799 00:58:28,470 --> 00:58:29,190 No, never done like that. 800 00:58:29,270 --> 00:58:29,790 Every paperwork. 801 00:58:30,190 --> 00:58:32,890 By the end of the set of timber or the October I'm going to have to finish. 802 00:58:33,550 --> 00:58:35,510 The paperwork or the course? 803 00:58:35,970 --> 00:58:36,290 The course. 804 00:58:36,510 --> 00:58:38,410 I can't have the paperwork until the course is done. 805 00:58:38,690 --> 00:58:39,410 Oh, okay. 806 00:58:40,230 --> 00:58:42,450 So did I get some pictures of everything? 807 00:58:42,870 --> 00:58:43,430 A lot of them. 808 00:58:43,590 --> 00:58:44,790 Did you buy them at that line? 809 00:58:45,310 --> 00:58:46,190 We already did. 810 00:58:46,350 --> 00:58:47,910 We got them extended one year already. 811 00:58:48,750 --> 00:58:50,530 So we just lose my grant. 812 00:58:50,530 --> 00:58:50,610 Yeah. 813 00:58:51,730 --> 00:58:55,330 In the middle of our project, we don't want to come to the middle of it. 814 00:58:55,470 --> 00:58:55,590 Yeah. 815 00:58:56,010 --> 00:58:57,110 What if you were? 816 00:58:57,590 --> 00:58:57,730 Yeah. 817 00:58:58,210 --> 00:58:58,410 You were? 818 00:58:58,430 --> 00:58:58,870 That's what I mean. 819 00:58:59,210 --> 00:58:59,790 Type that line. 820 00:59:00,390 --> 00:59:00,510 Yeah. 821 00:59:00,510 --> 00:59:01,370 So I have your dome here. 822 00:59:01,370 --> 00:59:03,390 Oh, it's very time to join your stream. 823 00:59:03,630 --> 00:59:04,050 I love it. 824 00:59:05,410 --> 00:59:07,790 You used to know about however we have at the end of the year. 825 00:59:08,730 --> 00:59:10,390 I think that's our biggest concern. 826 00:59:10,630 --> 00:59:11,810 It's a little bit of a flavor. 827 00:59:12,510 --> 00:59:12,650 Yeah. 828 00:59:13,510 --> 00:59:15,370 Well, you're a city staff. 829 00:59:15,570 --> 00:59:17,910 I'm not planning on using the city word for support. 830 00:59:18,130 --> 00:59:20,350 I'm planning on using myself and company. 831 00:59:20,350 --> 00:59:24,810 and volunteers. So I'm not like I'm worried guys do on the 832 00:59:24,810 --> 00:59:28,890 trance. I have a lot of friends that I think you saw when I did 833 00:59:28,890 --> 00:59:32,090 and provolence stuff that I know very often at the 834 00:59:32,090 --> 00:59:33,950 bit like you said, the enthusiast, which I'll 835 00:59:33,950 --> 00:59:36,430 come down to the helicopter to. There's an 836 00:59:36,430 --> 00:59:40,270 off-spent in our city by the way. There's no off-spent in our city 837 00:59:40,270 --> 00:59:41,190 if we say yes. 838 00:59:43,250 --> 00:59:45,590 Well there's a thousand dollars lost that you'll 839 00:59:45,590 --> 00:59:46,910 I'm actually about $1,000. 840 00:59:47,270 --> 00:59:48,790 I'm probably not as part of me. 841 00:59:49,570 --> 00:59:51,390 It's running at the huge, yeah, yeah. 842 00:59:51,790 --> 00:59:53,770 Yeah, I'll make it in the next 48 minutes. 843 00:59:53,890 --> 00:59:54,390 I'm sorry. 844 00:59:55,390 --> 00:59:56,730 It's all right here. 845 00:59:57,090 --> 00:59:57,770 It's all right here. 846 00:59:57,910 --> 00:59:58,450 You did, Chef. 847 00:59:58,870 --> 00:59:59,770 The Bible is concerned. 848 01:00:00,050 --> 01:00:15,710 That's being able to have multiple uses out there. That's why there's multiple uses, I think, that's why we want to turn the T-pads, is so that we can make sure that they're donable. So that would be a turf like artificial. 849 01:00:15,710 --> 01:00:16,210 Yeah. 850 01:00:16,670 --> 01:00:17,030 Okay. 851 01:00:18,210 --> 01:00:21,770 And like I said, what are the nine holes that won't take as long to put in and things 852 01:00:21,770 --> 01:00:22,390 like that, right? 853 01:00:22,510 --> 01:00:24,670 You'll get a lot of faster cross-system styrofoam. 854 01:00:25,170 --> 01:00:25,250 Yeah. 855 01:00:25,630 --> 01:00:25,770 Yeah. 856 01:00:26,430 --> 01:00:29,590 And the only thing we're not going to convert you is so we're going to convert you guys. 857 01:00:29,790 --> 01:00:32,290 The only other thing we're going to have to do is put the basket in and stuff. 858 01:00:33,650 --> 01:00:35,430 I'm going to put the styrofoam in and stuff out. 859 01:00:35,930 --> 01:00:36,070 Okay. 860 01:00:36,610 --> 01:00:36,730 Okay. 861 01:00:37,550 --> 01:00:38,710 Thanks for the interview. 862 01:00:40,650 --> 01:00:41,170 Thank you. 863 01:00:42,690 --> 01:00:47,670 Okay, the next item on the agenda is historic preservation draft ordinance. 864 01:00:47,870 --> 01:00:50,690 You know, there's for update, the K and Mary. 865 01:00:52,890 --> 01:00:55,690 Oh, okay, do you know what this is talking to you? 866 01:00:56,830 --> 01:01:00,330 If you want to see, I can start it. 867 01:01:01,450 --> 01:01:07,850 We had a historical preservation commission meeting, when did we have the K blood school last week. 868 01:01:10,850 --> 01:01:24,850 We have, I think, Hamilton who has not only a historical preservation experience, but he is a part of, of course, and has a lot of amazing contact with the Arctic community. 869 01:01:25,430 --> 01:01:31,010 Of course, a question, Miller, who has restored multiple historic care homes here. 870 01:01:31,010 --> 01:01:35,170 We've got Kate Crane, who is the daughter of the Utah Finding 871 01:01:35,170 --> 01:01:38,190 Hears representative on the committee, who, of course, 872 01:01:38,330 --> 01:01:46,130 does the U.P. maintain or takes care of the Pat House 873 01:01:46,130 --> 01:01:49,730 for the museum for tours and things. 874 01:01:51,090 --> 01:01:54,750 And then Terry Solino, who lives in Los Dejos, 875 01:01:55,070 --> 01:01:59,230 the Shinn, this short, that he also worked for years 876 01:01:59,230 --> 01:02:07,210 and the churches expressed by the things in the historical department, in Nalu, in Becky, 877 01:02:07,930 --> 01:02:13,630 and over several of them, the historical sites, so, and then, of course, we've got K, 878 01:02:14,070 --> 01:02:17,890 who's got a lot of good experience, so, anyway. 879 01:02:18,150 --> 01:02:24,890 It was really amazing, and they're very enthusiastic, and it's sent out what we can do in the 880 01:02:24,890 --> 01:02:30,850 I'm excited to use the history that we have to increase 881 01:02:30,850 --> 01:02:35,190 like our development and tools on the land and everything. 882 01:02:36,530 --> 01:02:40,910 So I presented to the City Council last month 883 01:02:40,910 --> 01:02:42,990 about becoming a certified government 884 01:02:43,440 --> 01:02:46,270 and making a national expert registered area. 885 01:02:48,030 --> 01:02:50,150 And that's their first priority right now, 886 01:02:50,490 --> 01:02:53,750 as a commission, is to become certified. 887 01:02:53,750 --> 01:02:56,290 That should hopefully have been very, very similar. 888 01:02:56,570 --> 01:03:03,690 The first thing that we need to do for that is you all need to pass the ordinance for it, which they've given us. 889 01:03:04,350 --> 01:03:10,730 The state has given us language that I modified for my entire, it's only a packet for a point of view. 890 01:03:11,310 --> 01:03:11,510 The 891 01:03:20,120 --> 01:03:21,960 language here is really basic. 892 01:03:22,340 --> 01:03:30,520 It's just stating that we're a circular government again, which we were a circular fund of the past, so it's not going to be a good issue. 893 01:03:31,360 --> 01:03:34,380 We just need a commission, which we have now stated. 894 01:03:35,040 --> 01:03:37,620 So, I believe in your next meeting next month, 895 01:03:37,780 --> 01:03:38,900 you'll be right upon this moment. 896 01:03:39,260 --> 01:03:41,860 But today is just for you all to look over 897 01:03:41,860 --> 01:03:43,880 and if you have any questions for later on. 898 01:03:44,780 --> 01:03:45,960 So why don't we need to do anything 899 01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:47,520 in terms of approving the goals? 900 01:03:48,240 --> 01:03:50,180 The goals is what I think the other thing 901 01:03:50,180 --> 01:03:52,740 that Mary and I want to pass through. 902 01:03:53,440 --> 01:03:56,380 So, for example, it kind of gets you to laughing on them. 903 01:03:56,960 --> 01:03:58,940 Yes, for the planning commission, 904 01:03:58,940 --> 01:04:03,780 but they had goals that are usually dictated by the state council. 905 01:04:04,400 --> 01:04:07,620 These are the goals that the preservation commission came over to themselves. 906 01:04:08,900 --> 01:04:13,160 And if you have any changes, reach out to Mary, 907 01:04:13,600 --> 01:04:14,300 pipes were high. 908 01:04:15,460 --> 01:04:17,280 But let me just go over them quickly. 909 01:04:17,800 --> 01:04:19,760 They have three main overarching goals. 910 01:04:20,380 --> 01:04:22,420 And the commission also is doubling 911 01:04:22,420 --> 01:04:26,000 as the sort of preservation committee for the general plan. 912 01:04:26,000 --> 01:04:29,900 And so these are the goals for the general economy as well. 913 01:04:31,260 --> 01:04:33,920 So there are things that connect farming for a certain property. 914 01:04:34,040 --> 01:04:34,700 I'll keep in the range. 915 01:04:34,940 --> 01:04:36,140 There are some renovations for residents. 916 01:04:36,420 --> 01:04:39,140 The first thing we notice is we have a lot of the sort of properties 917 01:04:39,140 --> 01:04:41,120 and a lot of people that come forward to keep them up. 918 01:04:41,500 --> 01:04:43,520 So this one is directly connected to that. 919 01:04:45,560 --> 01:04:48,620 The commercial and historic rich, the area of gold that we have there. 920 01:04:48,780 --> 01:04:50,180 That's kind of what those two plants are. 921 01:04:50,980 --> 01:04:55,120 Along with farming residents, there's preservation in Utah on a profit. 922 01:04:56,080 --> 01:05:01,840 that have most help with those kind of buildings. 923 01:05:02,400 --> 01:05:04,580 Their second main overarching role is the research 924 01:05:04,740 --> 01:05:08,480 community, not just buildings, but cultural ideas 925 01:05:08,860 --> 01:05:11,480 from our heritage. 926 01:05:12,400 --> 01:05:15,940 And they want to help create some traditional farmers market. 927 01:05:16,680 --> 01:05:21,020 Next year, they, through preservation in Tauzi, 928 01:05:21,020 --> 01:05:29,920 have suggested that if they need to use all the random time for store properties, they have reached out to us and said they want to do a bar of 929 01:05:29,920 --> 01:05:36,640 durers since we have so many wonderful store properties here, and it was work of course for us to do it. That way, riding will work in 930 01:05:36,640 --> 01:05:46,180 peace with experiencing the problem. Updated materials for store preservation better utilize our primary heritage 931 01:05:46,180 --> 01:05:51,260 government's cost for the technical by creating a program to invest in local 932 01:05:51,260 --> 01:05:55,220 and neural ours competition for these buildings as well as 933 01:05:55,220 --> 01:06:05,220 and these are all of the aspirational rules and that can be changed. Their last 934 01:06:05,220 --> 01:06:09,900 meeting is protecting the promote of the businesses. It's a little on our thoughts for a sort of 935 01:06:09,900 --> 01:06:16,160 preservation commission to work on economic things but they realize in their meeting that 936 01:06:17,760 --> 01:06:25,180 If we promote our main street and help that, get better, and preserve the world, that will 937 01:06:25,180 --> 01:06:26,300 also have level clearances. 938 01:06:26,960 --> 01:06:27,280 So that's easy. 939 01:06:28,080 --> 01:06:29,340 Any questions support? 940 01:06:30,400 --> 01:06:31,020 I have one. 941 01:06:31,360 --> 01:06:31,480 Yes. 942 01:06:31,800 --> 01:06:37,040 So, for the pioneer heritage gardeners, and I don't even know if this would fit into this or not, 943 01:06:37,320 --> 01:06:38,800 you wouldn't be talking about foreign events. 944 01:06:39,580 --> 01:06:43,120 Palaces, as we know last year, they put a Christmas flag as a name. 945 01:06:43,120 --> 01:06:45,580 and they can now have a big destination, right? 946 01:06:45,760 --> 01:06:47,500 Where people attend, people can go. 947 01:06:48,820 --> 01:06:50,540 I've just always thought that though 948 01:06:50,540 --> 01:06:53,120 a high-interference garden would be just so beautiful, 949 01:06:53,480 --> 01:06:56,000 you know, it was lit up with Christmas lights on the trees. 950 01:06:56,520 --> 01:06:59,340 If you place the families to go to bring the children 951 01:06:59,340 --> 01:07:01,040 or the footchills of the temple, 952 01:07:01,800 --> 01:07:03,780 I think it would also bring other people in. 953 01:07:03,860 --> 01:07:05,540 Just being, you know, families in other communities 954 01:07:05,540 --> 01:07:07,500 are always looking for places, you know, 955 01:07:07,560 --> 01:07:09,180 to go into the door of the Christmas light. 956 01:07:09,360 --> 01:07:11,080 So, is that something that could be, 957 01:07:11,720 --> 01:07:13,220 That's exactly what they were doing. 958 01:07:13,580 --> 01:07:15,280 Oh, that's a great idea. 959 01:07:15,840 --> 01:07:16,020 Sure. 960 01:07:18,020 --> 01:07:20,580 Also, the preservation you tried to come down 961 01:07:20,580 --> 01:07:22,060 and they did be to work down here 962 01:07:22,060 --> 01:07:24,140 in Kentucky, August, 963 01:07:25,360 --> 01:07:26,920 that it was July. 964 01:07:27,240 --> 01:07:27,900 It ended July. 965 01:07:28,120 --> 01:07:28,620 It ended July. 966 01:07:29,100 --> 01:07:29,800 You can see it came down. 967 01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:32,420 And it was the first time a lot of them did this down here. 968 01:07:32,540 --> 01:07:35,400 Most of them live up in the Crosshatch front. 969 01:07:35,940 --> 01:07:37,280 We went out to the town square. 970 01:07:37,400 --> 01:07:38,260 She happened to certainly 971 01:07:38,260 --> 01:07:40,460 and we came over and we toured this window. 972 01:07:40,460 --> 01:07:42,780 I was home here, you know, I went out just to see 973 01:07:42,780 --> 01:07:44,700 a tour of several homes up there. 974 01:07:45,380 --> 01:07:47,520 They were very, very impressed with their time. 975 01:07:48,300 --> 01:07:52,800 And with those preservation and just the location 976 01:07:52,800 --> 01:07:55,340 of all the historic homes there in the area, 977 01:07:55,480 --> 01:07:57,960 they had an idea that all of this was available. 978 01:07:58,240 --> 01:08:01,140 So they were highly, they were very, very impressed, I think. 979 01:08:01,440 --> 01:08:03,800 And these are the top, these are the reservations 980 01:08:03,800 --> 01:08:07,180 in state, which now are very eager to evolve 981 01:08:07,180 --> 01:08:08,220 from that kind of stuff. 982 01:08:08,220 --> 01:08:10,400 so they have a lot of resources for it. 983 01:08:12,700 --> 01:08:14,780 So it's very positive, it's good. 984 01:08:15,040 --> 01:08:16,620 So Mayor, answer your question. 985 01:08:16,860 --> 01:08:19,740 You don't need a formal option for this, 986 01:08:19,900 --> 01:08:21,740 but if you have any concerns about it, 987 01:08:21,920 --> 01:08:24,400 I'm not using that direction as a council member. 988 01:08:26,420 --> 01:08:27,060 Thank you. 989 01:08:27,980 --> 01:08:29,720 All right, we will move on 990 01:08:29,720 --> 01:08:31,760 if there are no more comments or questions 991 01:08:31,760 --> 01:08:33,680 said to continue in business. 992 01:08:35,960 --> 01:08:38,780 At our next meeting in September, 993 01:08:38,780 --> 01:08:49,620 remember we will be correcting a city ordinance that dropped the rear yard accessory buildings 994 01:08:49,620 --> 01:08:50,480 capacity. 995 01:08:51,220 --> 01:08:56,400 We'll do a public notice two weeks before September council meeting and for that. 996 01:08:58,930 --> 01:09:04,590 We talked about the parks pass and trails with Luke. 997 01:09:06,050 --> 01:09:08,650 Anything you want to add about the master plan update? 998 01:09:08,650 --> 01:09:13,050 the state tomorrow there is an open house at 7.30 999 01:09:13,570 --> 01:09:14,410 as you know this. 1000 01:09:15,250 --> 01:09:17,010 If I hold sitting on a second floor, 1001 01:09:17,270 --> 01:09:19,430 it's going to be, I present to the Council 1002 01:09:19,430 --> 01:09:20,890 already just to keep issues analysis. 1003 01:09:21,430 --> 01:09:24,750 But this is more of an informal open house 1004 01:09:24,750 --> 01:09:26,450 talk with residents about that. 1005 01:09:26,790 --> 01:09:28,010 If they have questions or concerns, 1006 01:09:28,650 --> 01:09:30,590 additionally, there will be another open house 1007 01:09:30,590 --> 01:09:33,410 next month, or at the end of this month, 1008 01:09:33,950 --> 01:09:36,830 a ballot that actually pulls up the blanket. 1009 01:09:39,450 --> 01:09:44,790 So that, if residents have input for those people to that one house, 1010 01:09:46,610 --> 01:09:49,630 I hope we're getting some good participation. 1011 01:09:49,870 --> 01:09:51,030 What about the survey? 1012 01:09:51,630 --> 01:09:56,030 The survey also, we just finished with the EOSCAP project. 1013 01:09:56,030 --> 01:09:59,890 We may not talk about 500 doors. 1014 01:10:00,970 --> 01:10:02,410 I don't know if we're in quite a few hours. 1015 01:10:02,410 --> 01:10:05,170 The game were a job, it was a good job. 1016 01:10:05,450 --> 01:10:12,190 So we're looking about average responses for our open-to-go-love averages we can't. 1017 01:10:12,330 --> 01:10:15,630 So I don't really know how can you still squeeze up into the grocery store. 1018 01:10:15,630 --> 01:10:16,350 It's high-tech. 1019 01:10:17,330 --> 01:10:18,170 It's okay. 1020 01:10:18,590 --> 01:10:19,690 Or maybe it's fine. 1021 01:10:19,950 --> 01:10:23,990 So is there a few more questions you take that on the city website? 1022 01:10:24,390 --> 01:10:24,610 It's okay. 1023 01:10:25,250 --> 01:10:27,250 So now I got up, and where do they go? 1024 01:10:27,750 --> 01:10:29,610 They under the government's panel. 1025 01:10:46,510 --> 01:10:58,110 There is a, yeah, just a reminder again, this E 911 rural health tax that will be coming 1026 01:11:01,250 --> 01:11:12,770 please speak with your friends, neighbors, whatever to make sure that they'll be supportive of that because if we don't vote for that we will be paying more. 1027 01:11:12,770 --> 01:11:26,050 Yes, quite good, Marty. County commission's due to the dropout resolution at 2 o'clock on March 18th, and that starts in the ball rolling for 75 days to get on the ballot. 1028 01:11:27,470 --> 01:11:36,930 So just make sure that whoever you talk to, that they know that that's something we need to score, because if it doesn't pass, it will be worse for everyone. 1029 01:11:36,930 --> 01:11:40,630 especially those of us that are living in cities. 1030 01:11:44,990 --> 01:11:48,130 The September meeting will also go over 1031 01:11:48,130 --> 01:11:51,070 the wildland urban interface known as Louis 1032 01:11:52,210 --> 01:11:57,130 and that'll be reviewed on the September night meeting 1033 01:11:57,130 --> 01:12:01,110 and then we already discussed the historical preservation 1034 01:12:01,110 --> 01:12:04,510 ordinance will be reviewed and approved on the night. 1035 01:12:04,510 --> 01:12:13,370 I did notice on the on the woody map that we had that it in the part that's in the woody area is very small. 1036 01:12:13,770 --> 01:12:16,610 This would then be the boundaries of Manchester City. 1037 01:12:16,910 --> 01:12:23,810 There's a very very little bit on the south eastern corner and then the eastern, the very very eastern part. 1038 01:12:23,930 --> 01:12:26,570 Most of it is in the national forest of this. 1039 01:12:26,570 --> 01:12:30,590 And I will say that that is kind of just a draft, which 1040 01:12:30,590 --> 01:12:33,730 we actually have made for the area, if we'd like to, 1041 01:12:35,150 --> 01:12:38,630 they kind of left it up so that it's okay on that. 1042 01:12:38,810 --> 01:12:42,090 So we're going to open by that number before we 1043 01:12:42,090 --> 01:12:43,950 will see what the event will be. 1044 01:12:46,170 --> 01:12:47,550 All right, anything else on that? 1045 01:12:48,950 --> 01:12:52,770 We will then move to Councilmember Reports of Bryant. 1046 01:12:53,790 --> 01:12:56,410 I don't have any more in that part, so to that. 1047 01:12:56,770 --> 01:12:57,390 All right, Jen. 1048 01:12:57,390 --> 01:13:02,980 We shout out to our tribal bridge, cap ground again. 1049 01:13:04,060 --> 01:13:06,880 We've attended the chamber election, 1050 01:13:07,740 --> 01:13:10,280 and they honor the temple bridge, cap ground, 1051 01:13:10,420 --> 01:13:12,060 or maybe cap ground out there, 1052 01:13:12,300 --> 01:13:15,300 but they received the $20,000 economic element 1053 01:13:15,300 --> 01:13:17,420 grant from the county, 1054 01:13:18,180 --> 01:13:20,340 but they raised the chamber's health 1055 01:13:20,340 --> 01:13:22,800 and something that obtained that grant. 1056 01:13:23,300 --> 01:13:24,140 That's all. 1057 01:13:24,680 --> 01:13:26,440 More kudos to the chamber as well, 1058 01:13:26,720 --> 01:13:28,480 so kudos to our cap ground. 1059 01:13:33,180 --> 01:13:36,640 They've already gave some nice changes for the matter. 1060 01:13:38,200 --> 01:13:44,640 Mary, how many of us are going to leave office because we need to get registered for that? 1061 01:13:44,820 --> 01:13:45,500 End of October. 1062 01:13:46,580 --> 01:13:47,680 End of October, yes. 1063 01:13:48,560 --> 01:13:49,100 October, right? 1064 01:13:49,360 --> 01:13:55,760 It is October 27th and 28th, something is all right. 1065 01:13:55,760 --> 01:13:56,780 Yeah, 1066 01:13:59,260 --> 01:14:05,740 put me down for a figure we need to get, that register because the cost goes up in the 1067 01:14:05,740 --> 01:14:10,320 middle of September, yeah, we're going to get the lower rate, for sure. 1068 01:14:11,520 --> 01:14:18,020 Like itching in, yes, your day was yesterday when you went to get the National League of 1069 01:14:18,020 --> 01:14:24,680 Cities and Towns day, 21st Century Girls Housing Act overview, this is the first comprehensive 1070 01:14:24,680 --> 01:14:28,300 comprehensive housing access in costs by commerce in decades. 1071 01:14:28,920 --> 01:14:33,320 Hopefully it's going through life flexibility with current programs that exist for housing 1072 01:14:33,320 --> 01:14:36,500 to get into homes, to put into home programs, and it's going to be easy to do. 1073 01:14:37,080 --> 01:14:41,380 Programs, they talk about, you know, what it does, it basically provides 1074 01:14:41,380 --> 01:14:45,260 with prep for places, not in there in the age, but it does make some changes to 1075 01:14:45,260 --> 01:14:51,180 hopefully make it easier for smaller, for more affordable housing to actually happen. 1076 01:14:51,180 --> 01:14:59,400 And a lot of areas is cities and things where they need apartment buildings and multi-family houses and things like that. 1077 01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:24,840 It was a really, really good thing to listen to, and we said, what they're going to do, grants available for cities to help with infrastructure, until they're working, and they did take, again, partnership, upreaction. There's, if anybody's interested, you can go to NLC for National League of Cities, NLC.org.gov. housing, and there's a lot of information about that there. 1078 01:15:25,360 --> 01:15:28,080 And then I had a lot of time, I think it was all about that. 1079 01:15:28,520 --> 01:15:34,240 Oh, he did go to the Dan Milfunk and about the fun. 1080 01:15:34,680 --> 01:15:35,120 Well, it was a good job. 1081 01:15:35,280 --> 01:15:36,400 It was a legacy about the navigation. 1082 01:15:36,760 --> 01:15:38,140 A.J. and Mary and I were there. 1083 01:15:38,620 --> 01:15:44,360 And it was fascinating to think that this man came in the mid-1800s. 1084 01:15:44,800 --> 01:15:49,160 And he and his four sons, named Palisade Lightwood, 1085 01:15:49,160 --> 01:15:51,880 with Horses, Newells, and Spracers. 1086 01:15:52,200 --> 01:15:53,940 Like, they didn't have vacillations, 1087 01:15:54,260 --> 01:15:57,080 got to say, did it with Newell power and horsepower. 1088 01:15:58,040 --> 01:16:01,380 And that was his, you know, his vision was to have that 1089 01:16:01,380 --> 01:16:02,040 beautiful lake. 1090 01:16:02,440 --> 01:16:06,320 And of course, it helps with irrigation and health growth. 1091 01:16:06,320 --> 01:16:09,140 Of course, the park right now is a little empty 1092 01:16:09,140 --> 01:16:12,140 because apparently my name, the reason that it's linking 1093 01:16:12,630 --> 01:16:14,520 is because it's years ago, he's went in trees 1094 01:16:14,520 --> 01:16:15,600 all the way around the lake. 1095 01:16:16,160 --> 01:16:18,560 Well, some of those trees are around 20 years old. 1096 01:16:18,560 --> 01:16:22,760 They have to tear it in as they have on back to Mother Earth. 1097 01:16:22,760 --> 01:16:29,740 They have created void and the water is speaking to those voids out where it's just off to going. 1098 01:16:30,220 --> 01:16:31,000 So they're going to fix that. 1099 01:16:31,440 --> 01:16:33,280 And that's what I tell the state is ending right now. 1100 01:16:35,620 --> 01:16:36,840 It will be coming back. 1101 01:16:38,000 --> 01:16:40,320 If we get more wind, we'll get better and better. 1102 01:16:41,680 --> 01:16:42,160 Name. 1103 01:16:42,880 --> 01:16:44,680 All right. 1104 01:16:45,480 --> 01:16:46,160 Thank you. 1105 01:16:46,160 --> 01:16:52,640 We will now open it up for public comment is you would care to make public comment, please 1106 01:16:54,060 --> 01:17:01,080 Provide your name and state resident or non-resident and move it to two minutes. Please 1107 01:17:01,760 --> 01:17:04,080 So you're welcome to come to play 1108 01:17:09,680 --> 01:17:14,340 I just came back from the trip to 1109 01:17:21,760 --> 01:17:29,000 an idea of course this is order scale greater, but to see guards at night in the light, the 1110 01:17:29,720 --> 01:17:31,760 incision idea, it's just like that. 1111 01:17:32,740 --> 01:17:38,680 Anyway, on another condition, I can show that I'm a member of the Constitution Party, I'm 1112 01:17:38,680 --> 01:17:45,340 very conscientious and aware of, you know, constitutional rights for everyone here, and I 1113 01:17:45,340 --> 01:17:48,180 I can talk to him in a castle a few weeks ago. 1114 01:17:48,760 --> 01:17:52,000 I'm my concerns with the floppy campus. 1115 01:17:53,040 --> 01:17:56,440 And I don't know if you look at that information, 1116 01:17:56,880 --> 01:17:59,720 but there are some various serious issues 1117 01:18:00,160 --> 01:18:03,380 with the data collection going on in the floppy campus. 1118 01:18:03,720 --> 01:18:05,840 And in fact, a lot of the communities 1119 01:18:06,540 --> 01:18:11,240 adopted on campus said no more in a way. 1120 01:18:11,600 --> 01:18:14,460 We've got legislators that are putting in 1121 01:18:20,080 --> 01:18:28,420 I was very concerned when I set up a phone camera, right next to the parents' 1122 01:18:28,500 --> 01:18:28,640 video. 1123 01:18:29,040 --> 01:18:34,560 It just sounds great from the nature piece of it. 1124 01:18:34,680 --> 01:18:36,800 And I just find what's going on with that. 1125 01:18:37,140 --> 01:18:40,680 And I just don't know if your word was going on. 1126 01:18:40,680 --> 01:18:46,820 I don't know that Sheriff's Department has several vehicles that are mobile, ever has this 1127 01:18:46,820 --> 01:18:49,860 thing in the same sort of thing, that election. 1128 01:18:50,840 --> 01:18:52,420 Slides and concerns about it. 1129 01:18:56,160 --> 01:19:00,280 Information like we're here with you, like we'll look at it and not look at it. 1130 01:19:00,780 --> 01:19:02,000 That's several articles there. 1131 01:19:02,900 --> 01:19:04,480 I can't share anything with you. 1132 01:19:04,740 --> 01:19:07,380 You do some of the ideas about what's going on, kind of. 1133 01:19:07,840 --> 01:19:08,360 Yeah. 1134 01:19:09,140 --> 01:19:09,760 It was 1135 01:19:18,460 --> 01:19:19,640 pretty jade when you returned. 1136 01:19:19,640 --> 01:19:20,540 So, 1137 01:19:30,300 --> 01:19:35,820 thank you very much, I just want to kind of look back and see what's going on. 1138 01:19:55,910 --> 01:20:02,250 Just as a point of the education I wanted to talk to you about the roller coaster license plate, 1139 01:20:02,490 --> 01:20:06,750 we heard that the Sampey County Sheriff has put in a two-minute tie. 1140 01:20:07,070 --> 01:20:12,280 They also have a roller coaster that's going into whichever vehicle they choose 1141 01:20:12,280 --> 01:20:17,980 and so we never know where it's at or when we are being surveilled. 1142 01:20:18,640 --> 01:20:26,800 And this is just teaching you about the Fourth Amendment of X and June 29 and 2026. 1143 01:20:27,520 --> 01:20:30,440 So just recently, the Supreme Court said, 1144 01:20:31,240 --> 01:20:39,060 it invaded part of the reasonable expectation of privacy in the whole of its physical movements. 1145 01:20:39,060 --> 01:20:53,760 I think you will find as you read through what Russ gave you and as you read through this you will see that this is a huge violation of our fourth and the right and we intend to invoke. 1146 01:20:54,420 --> 01:21:04,260 Everything that we can do to stop this from surveilling people who are not criminals and they have no reason to be surveilled 1147 01:21:04,260 --> 01:21:10,700 And we would like the City Council and the Mayor of Tutel to get it out of our city. 1148 01:21:11,180 --> 01:21:16,480 And I have 38 signatures so far that I will be sending to you. 1149 01:21:17,020 --> 01:21:20,720 And we will be gathering more and we hope that you will take this seriously, 1150 01:21:21,100 --> 01:21:23,020 because this is a fourth amendment. 1151 01:21:23,280 --> 01:21:24,340 My relation, thank you. 1152 01:21:31,270 --> 01:21:33,850 Did you state your name in the system? 1153 01:21:33,850 --> 01:21:35,990 I'm not a family member of the King of 1154 01:21:45,690 --> 01:21:46,410 all cameras. 1155 01:21:47,210 --> 01:21:49,490 I'm representing my family, the nurses, 1156 01:21:50,450 --> 01:21:53,610 and I would say nearly 100% of the people 1157 01:21:54,010 --> 01:21:56,090 have cracking the table the other night. 1158 01:21:56,670 --> 01:21:57,450 Thank you, everyone. 1159 01:22:00,150 --> 01:22:03,150 I want to say, I want to say that's in my cabin. 1160 01:22:03,990 --> 01:22:06,650 It's not dear that we have a problem 1161 01:22:06,650 --> 01:22:07,810 when it came to the room. 1162 01:22:08,330 --> 01:22:08,550 It's okay. 1163 01:22:10,390 --> 01:22:11,350 It's okay. 1164 01:22:12,090 --> 01:22:12,350 It's okay. 1165 01:22:12,350 --> 01:22:12,390 It's okay. 1166 01:22:12,390 --> 01:22:12,810 It could be worse. 1167 01:22:12,810 --> 01:22:17,950 If there are anyone else that would care to be a couple of people, I 1168 01:22:20,960 --> 01:22:21,540 think around the 1169 01:22:21,540 --> 01:22:21,920 residents. 1170 01:22:22,340 --> 01:22:23,160 Just two things. 1171 01:22:23,520 --> 01:22:29,440 There was some controversy on Facebook, a month back on sidewalks, I believe, I didn't 1172 01:22:29,440 --> 01:22:34,020 make a good response and I really appreciated it and the way the city handled that. 1173 01:22:34,560 --> 01:22:41,000 I thought that was an excellent way not to engage in getting information out, so I really 1174 01:22:41,000 --> 01:22:48,160 appreciate that. The other thing, just because it came up tonight, I am at a 1175 01:22:48,160 --> 01:22:52,860 discolored call for I've been doing it since the early 90s. Brian, if you ever need 1176 01:22:52,860 --> 01:22:56,660 to need somebody to go with, I would love to come. So a lot of time on me from 1177 01:22:56,660 --> 01:23:02,920 course, and yeah, it'd be great how I'm here. And I'd like to know that the trails 1178 01:23:02,920 --> 01:23:09,700 were walking, the biking, and the discolors. It's part of the DNA of the discol 1179 01:23:09,700 --> 01:23:16,380 community to really embrace all of that because what we want is everybody to have a place where 1180 01:23:16,380 --> 01:23:22,880 they can go, so discolors are used to waiting for people to clear and it's a great place to take 1181 01:23:22,880 --> 01:23:23,540 kids and grandparents. 1182 01:23:25,670 --> 01:23:26,410 Thank you. 1183 01:23:30,150 --> 01:23:32,930 This is a third second, and I have a discol 1184 01:23:33,510 --> 01:23:37,690 basket on my property, so if anybody wants to try it, you can do it. 1185 01:23:40,410 --> 01:23:41,710 I have a deal we can go 1186 01:23:43,730 --> 01:23:46,780 are six people. 1187 01:23:48,880 --> 01:23:52,180 Is there anyone else that would like to make public comment? 1188 01:23:58,380 --> 01:24:09,080 I'll move to my comments. I attended the LPC housing and land use advisory staff 1189 01:24:09,080 --> 01:24:14,300 wrote this afternoon. And they were talking about some of the issues that they're pretty sure will 1190 01:24:14,300 --> 01:24:16,900 will come up with a state legislature again 1191 01:24:16,900 --> 01:24:18,480 and you probably heard the same thing Mary. 1192 01:24:21,080 --> 01:24:22,120 Impact fees. 1193 01:24:22,920 --> 01:24:25,780 There's an audit for this going to be done 1194 01:24:25,780 --> 01:24:28,000 prior to the legislative sessions 1195 01:24:28,000 --> 01:24:30,660 that see how cities are using impact fees. 1196 01:24:32,180 --> 01:24:34,160 And I guess they want to make sure 1197 01:24:34,160 --> 01:24:36,400 that we're doing it to improve the infrastructure. 1198 01:24:36,940 --> 01:24:40,560 The reason we have impact fees for new development 1199 01:24:40,560 --> 01:24:51,940 that is because we believe the burden should not fall on the current citizens to make an additional water tanks, 1200 01:24:52,260 --> 01:25:02,600 the bigger pipes for the sewer system, that sort of thing, the development that is causing a need for more infrastructure, 1201 01:25:03,260 --> 01:25:07,060 should be paying for that, and that's why we have impact fees. 1202 01:25:10,520 --> 01:25:16,120 This doesn't really apply to us, but it was interesting to me that several HOA organizations 1203 01:25:16,120 --> 01:25:23,040 where they made their own roads and whatnot developments to their own roads so they didn't 1204 01:25:23,040 --> 01:25:30,240 have to apply to the city standards, then they now want the cities to take it on, they said. 1205 01:25:31,240 --> 01:25:36,420 one of the men on the call who is a city planner who said he just put an overlay 1206 01:25:36,420 --> 01:25:39,880 structure on them and tell them they're going to pay for it one way or another. 1207 01:25:40,080 --> 01:25:43,980 You're not going to have the other citizens pay for it so they had some good 1208 01:25:43,980 --> 01:25:46,920 approaches for dealing with that but one of the other things that was 1209 01:25:46,920 --> 01:25:53,040 interesting is building inspection is going to come up again because builders are 1210 01:25:53,040 --> 01:25:59,080 pushing to have their own building inspectors which is one of those Fox 1211 01:25:59,080 --> 01:26:04,920 starting to announce issues. So I'm sure with all the people that are in the 1212 01:26:04,920 --> 01:26:10,720 legislature who are builders that it will come up again, they're also talking about 1213 01:26:10,720 --> 01:26:18,140 using AI for plummeting which was interesting to me. Anxation was the other one 1214 01:26:18,140 --> 01:26:24,000 and the funds that are available, you mentioned that very for housing 1215 01:26:24,000 --> 01:26:31,740 infrastructure. Evidently, Harman received funds for smaller owner-octet-pride homes, 1216 01:26:32,480 --> 01:26:37,340 because what are the problems when zoning has tried to make more affordable and they 1217 01:26:37,340 --> 01:26:44,260 make smaller loss than people just built bigger houses on the tiny lot. So it's still 1218 01:26:44,260 --> 01:26:50,600 worth charging, you know, $600,000. Just a reminder, the U.M. case, that the summer 1219 01:26:54,160 --> 01:27:03,440 I don't have anything else, and I don't believe we have a little session today, so I will 1220 01:27:05,180 --> 01:27:14,280 accept a motion to adjourn and make a motion to adjourn and take it off on the... 1221 01:27:27,160 --> 01:27:32,540 Thank you so much for coming, we appreciate your attendance, the city and your interest 1222 01:27:32,540 --> 01:27:36,720 and the Adderstead City, and we appreciate you coming 1223 01:27:36,720 --> 01:27:37,440 sharp for your kind. 1224 01:27:37,680 --> 01:27:38,080 Thank you. 1225 01:27:38,680 --> 01:27:39,020 Yeah. 1226 01:27:39,720 --> 01:27:42,400 I got that screen here, but I don't know if you guys 1227 01:27:43,020 --> 01:27:43,700 heard it.