1 00:00:02,360 --> 00:00:04,730 >> [background] good evening, everybody. I'd like to call the marana town council regular council meeting 2 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:11,910 to order. Roll call, please. >> mayor post? >> here. >> vice mayor ziegler? >> present. 3 00:00:12,555 --> 00:00:15,900 >> councilmember cavanaugh? Here. >> councilmember comerford? >> here. >> councilmember kai? 4 00:00:16,875 --> 00:00:20,550 >> present. >> councilmember murphy? >> present. >> councilmember officer? >> here. >> a quorum is present. 5 00:00:21,830 --> 00:00:21,830 >> thank you. Please stand for the pledge of allegiance and a moment of silence. 6 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:37,680 >> 7 00:00:46,820 --> 00:00:46,820 >> please be seated. 8 00:00:55,910 --> 00:00:58,445 approval of agenda? >> so moved. 9 00:01:00,125 --> 00:01:03,410 >> we have a motion in a second. All those in favor? >> aye. >> aye. 10 00:01:04,370 --> 00:01:07,570 >> motion passes. Call to the public. >> mr. Mayor, I have one speaker card for the call of the public? 11 00:01:11,065 --> 00:01:12,430 >> okay. >> noah sunberg? >> hello, I'm noah sunberg. 12 00:01:19,220 --> 00:01:21,460 I'm from sita, and I'd like to talk to you about your police chief and others being bad actors. 13 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:28,375 I want to know why your police chief, jeffrey pridgett was dishonest with the local media and the public when he said 14 00:01:34,500 --> 00:01:37,420 that things that occurred that are in the report from marana on the sita police attack where the police chief attacked the man, 15 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:42,460 and the man was told, there was no probable cause and your chief said that isn't what was said, 16 00:01:45,320 --> 00:01:48,280 and then the police report said that's exactly what was said. Why did your chief lie to us all? That's the first one. 17 00:01:51,660 --> 00:01:51,660 secondly, I do appreciate mr. Vincent jenkins, 18 00:01:59,540 --> 00:01:59,540 who was force for releasing the man who was attacked by our chief after six hours, 19 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:04,320 when it was proven that there was no probable cause that he did assault the police chief. 20 00:02:08,620 --> 00:02:12,020 but I do wonder, why did he not include all the testimonies that were there? He got testimonies from the witnesses who were there and did not include them. 21 00:02:15,920 --> 00:02:19,640 he also did not get testimonies from the vast majority of police officers that were all deer in the headlights seeing what our chief had done and didn't do anything. 22 00:02:23,820 --> 00:02:23,820 why did your forces do a subpar investigation where our chief assaulted a man, 23 00:02:31,810 --> 00:02:33,870 violated him, attacked him, and your guys came up with the wrong conclusion. 24 00:02:36,070 --> 00:02:39,470 I understand that there's a fellowship among police officers, where they will protect themselves over 25 00:02:41,750 --> 00:02:41,750 the righteousness of what's true and right and the public good and their oaths. 26 00:02:46,050 --> 00:02:48,370 but I expect your chief of police and your police officers to honor their oath to the constitution and honor the law 27 00:02:52,890 --> 00:02:52,890 and not lie and deceive the public or in their reports to protect another officer, 28 00:03:00,350 --> 00:03:03,570 even if it's a horrible person like our chief nolan. I want you guys to have please the honor of the true, 29 00:03:08,490 --> 00:03:11,140 not just protect the blue. Thank you. >> thank you. 30 00:03:14,390 --> 00:03:16,960 >> mayor and council reports. Councilmember officer? 31 00:03:18,580 --> 00:03:21,615 >> no report, mayor. >> councilmember murphy? >> no report. 32 00:03:22,740 --> 00:03:26,655 >> councilmember kai? >> no report, mayor. >> councilmember cavanaugh? >> yeah, one quick report, 33 00:03:28,070 --> 00:03:30,550 as you know, the chamber of commerce, and marana, had a nice little program to help get us out to 34 00:03:33,410 --> 00:03:36,630 local restaurants to dine in local restaurants. Gave if you wanted to, you could fill out take a card to the restaurant, 35 00:03:40,930 --> 00:03:42,980 and they would happily sign it. My wife and I participated in that. It was a great experience. 36 00:03:46,350 --> 00:03:48,210 we were motivated, actually, to get out, not for the fine t-shirts that we were able to pick out, 37 00:03:51,910 --> 00:03:54,020 to wear, with pride. But just to go get out and dine in some wonderful restaurants of marana. 38 00:04:00,610 --> 00:04:04,090 that's all my report is, I say kudos to the marana chamber of commerce on this wonderful program they do and throughout july and august. Thank you. 39 00:04:08,350 --> 00:04:10,460 >> thank you. Councilmember comerford? >> I have a couple. First. I want to say that officer, 40 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:17,200 murphy, post, and myself. 41 00:04:22,935 --> 00:04:22,935 some of our wonderful staff went to the league of cities and towns, 42 00:04:29,330 --> 00:04:29,330 and I think it was my 25th that I've been to. 43 00:04:35,110 --> 00:04:35,110 I just want to say that it was nice being able to go with so much staff, 44 00:04:41,910 --> 00:04:41,910 and it was nice to see that even after 25 years, 45 00:04:46,030 --> 00:04:46,030 I'm still hearing new stuff and learning new stuff to bring home. 46 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:52,650 that was very enjoyable. The second thing was that, our deceased mayor, 47 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:00,040 our mayor durst was recognized at 48 00:05:06,620 --> 00:05:06,620 the state parks and recreation conference for 49 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:12,480 the entire state of arizona and was recognized as the public official of the year. 50 00:05:19,530 --> 00:05:22,905 that was really an honor. I'm so glad mr. Cavanaugh attended and mr. 51 00:05:30,530 --> 00:05:33,540 officer attended and I attended. What a pleasure it was to be there and see, first of all, 52 00:05:38,010 --> 00:05:39,670 what are people all do, and second of all him being recognized. Thank you, mayor. 53 00:05:43,990 --> 00:05:46,900 >> thank you. Vice mayor? >> thank you, mr. Mayor. Planning and zoning. 54 00:05:51,270 --> 00:05:53,730 I went to the planning and zoning meeting earlier, well, this last week. 55 00:05:56,090 --> 00:05:56,090 carrie sylvan and her group were there, 56 00:06:00,290 --> 00:06:00,290 and they're going to be doing our cascada project finally after, my goodness. 57 00:06:06,450 --> 00:06:08,770 I don't know how many years. Of course, her team did a great job talking about cascada too, 58 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:14,070 and they, of course, are representing redpoint development, 59 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:21,300 and there will be some amendments to the specific plan. It's going to be a mixed use type development. 60 00:06:25,180 --> 00:06:27,600 we're going to have offices, some housing, some loft style apartments, trails. 61 00:06:32,355 --> 00:06:32,355 that will be coming up in the next couple of weeks. 62 00:06:36,395 --> 00:06:39,490 we'll have to reacquaint yourself with that. Secondly, on I think it was the next day, 63 00:06:43,380 --> 00:06:43,380 I went to marana insights. Well, who was there? 64 00:06:49,430 --> 00:06:51,690 councilmember cavanaugh, there. Councilmember officer. 65 00:06:53,970 --> 00:06:57,710 the bigger reason I went, jason, it wasn't for you. I'm sorry. We hear you all the time. 66 00:06:59,530 --> 00:07:01,170 but we went to see heath. He's been with us, was with us for nine years as an intern of the ua, 67 00:07:07,050 --> 00:07:07,050 and now he is the director of the county economic development, and 35-years-old. 68 00:07:17,490 --> 00:07:20,290 it was interesting to hear his speech or his presentation and just how much those people do down there is incredible. 69 00:07:25,030 --> 00:07:26,990 I don't know how they get it done, but it was nice to see heath. Thank you, mayor. 70 00:07:29,940 --> 00:07:33,740 >> thank you, vice mayor. First thing I want to talk about is the first ever parents night out at the mark. 71 00:07:38,500 --> 00:07:38,500 my grandchildren went to it and I have four grandchildren. 72 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:46,185 but three of them went to it. They had the time of their life. 73 00:07:48,540 --> 00:07:51,060 I heard it was so very well done. They had to drag the youngest one out, screaming. 74 00:07:54,420 --> 00:07:57,680 he's two. He had a great time. Thank you to parks for setting that up. That's awesome. 75 00:08:01,755 --> 00:08:01,755 as everybody know, we finally got the rta across the a portion of the finish line, 76 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:11,480 we're going to go to the voters in march, and that is so very important to the town of marana. 77 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:15,800 if you have not had the opportunity to see a presentation on that, 78 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:21,040 we will hopefully be getting community presentations around, 79 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:25,720 and that's worth over $500 million to the town of marana. 80 00:08:30,140 --> 00:08:30,140 that is going to be such a great program for the town, 81 00:08:35,150 --> 00:08:38,670 we expect to get more road interchange, tangerine interchange, cortaro interchange, 82 00:08:41,850 --> 00:08:41,850 tangerine will be finished to twin peaks and widening of ina. 83 00:08:49,180 --> 00:08:49,180 then amongst many other projects around the southern arizona. 84 00:08:56,265 --> 00:08:56,265 really important for marana, 85 00:09:00,850 --> 00:09:03,730 that we get that across the finish line. The other thing that I wanted to comment on because 86 00:09:07,930 --> 00:09:07,930 neither councilmember comerford nor council member kai will say anything. 87 00:09:13,150 --> 00:09:16,150 but councilmember kai was awarded a local elected official distinguished award for 32 years of public service, 32 years. 88 00:09:25,110 --> 00:09:25,110 [applause] thirty-two years of 89 00:09:32,740 --> 00:09:35,940 doing things and working hard for the town of marana. Then councilmember comerford, was awarded with 24 years of public service. 90 00:09:41,530 --> 00:09:41,530 [applause] I know both 91 00:09:46,730 --> 00:09:46,730 of these individuals have really worked hard for the town of marana, 92 00:09:51,290 --> 00:09:54,030 and I'm very proud to know both of them. I know the hard work they've put into our community, 93 00:09:57,470 --> 00:10:00,550 and so I'm really proud of them. Thank you very much. Mr. Rozema. 94 00:10:03,785 --> 00:10:06,590 >> mr. Mayor, vice mayor, and members of council, 95 00:10:07,970 --> 00:10:11,085 I'm pleased to report that the council took just about every single one of the items that I was going to speak on today. 96 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:17,400 very little, single family residential date, 97 00:10:21,710 --> 00:10:24,650 39 permits for the month of august, 53 last year for the month of august. 98 00:10:28,330 --> 00:10:28,330 those numbers continue to stay at a pretty low rate for us. 99 00:10:34,030 --> 00:10:36,070 you already hit on parents night out, which I heard was a smashing success. 100 00:10:38,190 --> 00:10:40,445 I guess if we have to draw children out, they want to be with wayne barnett 101 00:10:43,250 --> 00:10:46,530 and jim conroy more than they want to be with their parents. We're doing some good stuff. 102 00:10:48,930 --> 00:10:52,235 the one thing that wasn't talked about here is national night out. That's a great event every year. This year. 103 00:10:54,170 --> 00:10:56,770 it's going to be on friday, september 26, from five until nine at the crossroads at silverbell district park. 104 00:11:03,295 --> 00:11:06,690 we're going to have our first responders there playing a little softball game. We used to play basketball, 105 00:11:08,530 --> 00:11:08,530 but the pd kept beating the fire department year after year after year after year. 106 00:11:15,900 --> 00:11:19,560 after a year. They switched to softball. But you could still go out there and have a good time watching the softball game. 107 00:11:24,590 --> 00:11:26,870 the last thing is, if you want to know what's going on with musd and their growth and the schools that they're building, 108 00:11:30,610 --> 00:11:30,610 and what they have in store, their long-term planning, 109 00:11:35,540 --> 00:11:35,540 dr. Dan streeter was a guest on the real talk with the town podcast, 110 00:11:40,170 --> 00:11:43,195 and he lays all that out for our community. That's all I have, mr. Mayor. 111 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:48,400 >> thank you, mr. Rozema. Item p1. >> item p1, relating to budget. 112 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:53,125 presentation of preliminary year end results, july-june for the town's general fund and 113 00:11:55,740 --> 00:11:55,740 other selected major funds for the 2024-2025 fiscal year. 114 00:12:00,585 --> 00:12:02,265 >> mr. Klaitif? >> thank you, mr. Mayor, vice mayor, councilmembers. 115 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:09,150 on behalf of the finance department, I would like to present you with our fourth quarter or otherwise, 116 00:12:13,190 --> 00:12:13,190 our year end preliminary financial results for some select funds. 117 00:12:19,550 --> 00:12:22,870 as always, these results are not audited. They are preliminary and are subject to change as we close our books for the year, 118 00:12:27,770 --> 00:12:31,150 which is what we do at this time of year every year. With that, though, we'll be brief, 119 00:12:34,470 --> 00:12:37,470 but I will be happy to entertain any questions from anybody during or at the end of this brief presentation. 120 00:12:42,550 --> 00:12:44,650 overall, looking at our revenues, we performed right where we expected to perform or better, 121 00:12:49,590 --> 00:12:53,290 and in some cases, very much better than what we anticipated. The very much better is really our contracting sales tax. 122 00:12:57,750 --> 00:13:00,670 our transportation fund, especially, that is allocated 75% of that particular sales tax, 123 00:13:05,670 --> 00:13:09,485 has experienced record revenues for the year, and for previous years. 124 00:13:12,630 --> 00:13:16,610 with that, our retail sales tax came in about where we expected in the general fund at just a few hundred thousand over the amount that we expected. 125 00:13:22,015 --> 00:13:25,680 that would be included in the results for our general fund. >> what was that amount, your honor? 126 00:13:27,315 --> 00:13:30,270 >> 101% of budget. >> I know what was? >> amount for the general fund. 127 00:13:32,540 --> 00:13:35,740 we'll be happy to navigate to that. This interactive tool that we are using to,. 128 00:13:38,165 --> 00:13:41,110 >> forty-one million. >> will be available. >> forty-three? >> overall amount for sales tax is 48.3 million. 129 00:13:44,680 --> 00:13:44,680 specifically our retail sales tax came in at 25.8 million. 130 00:13:54,990 --> 00:13:54,990 with that result, going back to our summary screen. 131 00:14:00,090 --> 00:14:03,590 our hurf revenues came in as expected with the overage really being related to some of our investment returns and 132 00:14:09,070 --> 00:14:09,070 some third party contributions for projects to be performed on their behalf as part 133 00:14:14,450 --> 00:14:17,150 of striving to be sure to be as efficient as possible when we do some of these road projects. 134 00:14:20,270 --> 00:14:20,270 our bed tax fund also came in better than we anticipated. 135 00:14:24,515 --> 00:14:28,280 our health and sales tax fund, that as you all are aware, is there to help pay for the now completed and very successful mark, 136 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:37,720 as was mentioned earlier, came in also just slightly above expectations and continues to 137 00:14:42,740 --> 00:14:42,740 experience on a monthly basis over $600,000 in revenues. 138 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:48,960 >> we are starting to make those debt service payments. 139 00:14:53,170 --> 00:14:53,170 we have already made one this last july and we will continue to do so with 140 00:14:58,330 --> 00:14:58,330 a plan as council directed us to pay that debt off as early as possible. 141 00:15:04,090 --> 00:15:04,090 we're still estimating to be able to do that in the next 5-7 years 142 00:15:08,530 --> 00:15:08,530 depending on what those returns are through the sales tax collected for this purpose. 143 00:15:14,155 --> 00:15:14,155 our water funds and water reclamation funds have also came in as we anticipated, 144 00:15:18,715 --> 00:15:21,010 as has the airport fund. The airport fund is going to be collecting slightly higher revenues due to 145 00:15:26,260 --> 00:15:26,260 the result of a renegotiated agreement that council approved earlier this year. 146 00:15:33,010 --> 00:15:33,010 that is reflected in these results and while it is showing low now, 147 00:15:37,525 --> 00:15:40,735 this is normal for this time of year for this presentation. As we close out the year and we close out a lot of 148 00:15:43,450 --> 00:15:46,795 the grant funding associated with that particular operation, we do an entry to transfer any shortfalls as 149 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:50,080 budgeted and anticipated from the general fund to the airport fund. 150 00:15:54,265 --> 00:15:55,930 that will be happening in the next month to month and a half by the time we get to close the fund. 151 00:16:00,985 --> 00:16:00,985 all of our expenses also came in below or as anticipated. 152 00:16:06,790 --> 00:16:08,305 of note this year, I would like to point out that we are now done with the house and sales tax fund. 153 00:16:13,285 --> 00:16:15,760 you will notice that we spent $35 million, that pretty much closes out the majority of 154 00:16:18,130 --> 00:16:18,130 the expenses that we have related to the construction and completion of the mark. 155 00:16:23,125 --> 00:16:25,810 there are a few punch list items, but we do not expect those to be significant and we do expect this project to 156 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:29,680 come in within budget as directed and approved by council. 157 00:16:34,225 --> 00:16:36,640 on time and on budget, as mr. Conroy and mr. Barnett have stated in the past. 158 00:16:41,250 --> 00:16:41,250 the other item that is of note that I would like to point out 159 00:16:45,865 --> 00:16:49,630 is council's direction approval and implementation by staff to make the second down payment of over $13 million to our psprs pension plan. 160 00:16:58,270 --> 00:16:58,270 you will recall almost three years ago we made an initial payment of six million. 161 00:17:02,935 --> 00:17:02,935 we had about 13.6 million identified when we were putting together the budget of 162 00:17:08,950 --> 00:17:08,950 unpaid pension liabilities and we did that on july 1 of 2024. 163 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:16,800 that is included in the expenses that we see here. 164 00:17:20,865 --> 00:17:24,135 we are now eagerly anticipating the actuarial reports that will come out in december of this year to 165 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:34,480 see what the impact has been for that down payment that we made more than a year ago and see where that 166 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:40,090 allows us to be and we're hoping that we will be fully funded. But as you already know, 167 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:45,550 there's a lot of factors that go into those calculations by the actuaries, but we should be in really good shape when we see that report. 168 00:17:50,710 --> 00:17:54,310 with that, I will conclude my presentation, but will be happy to answer any questions. 169 00:17:56,575 --> 00:17:56,575 >> we have any questions? Thank you very much. 170 00:18:02,035 --> 00:18:04,450 >> actually, may I for one second? >> yeah. >> the presentation was concluded by neglected to do one more thing. 171 00:18:08,710 --> 00:18:08,710 the one more thing was the year end general fund balance. 172 00:18:15,870 --> 00:18:15,870 it really has not changed very much from an earlier estimate that you saw, 173 00:18:21,010 --> 00:18:24,265 but I would be remiss if I walked away and this is something that is attached to the agenda item tonight. 174 00:18:27,865 --> 00:18:27,865 we do expect to end next fiscal year at about 87.6 million. 175 00:18:34,255 --> 00:18:36,550 that is a little bit higher than it was when we presented to you a few months ago as part of 176 00:18:38,860 --> 00:18:42,130 the budget presentations for the fiscal year and this is really the result of higher than anticipated revenues, 177 00:18:45,730 --> 00:18:49,270 specifically some of our interest earnings and also some of the mark revenues that we had not budgeted in this cycle. 178 00:18:54,085 --> 00:18:54,085 beyond that, though, we are in very good shape at 179 00:18:58,360 --> 00:19:02,155 the same time as we continue to move into this year and next year's budget we will be discussing how to 180 00:19:06,835 --> 00:19:06,835 utilize a lot of these available funds in future projects. 181 00:19:11,995 --> 00:19:15,790 with that, now I mean it, I do conclude my presentation. >> question. 182 00:19:16,510 --> 00:19:17,875 >> councilmember cavanaugh. >> yes. Mr. Klaitif says, 183 00:19:20,585 --> 00:19:24,510 on the page 2 under the revenues, there's a category, other. 184 00:19:27,300 --> 00:19:30,075 >> yes, sir. >> from five million, 900,000-11 million up 199%. 185 00:19:33,900 --> 00:19:37,800 can you clarify that for us? >> one moment. Mr. Mayor, 186 00:19:40,645 --> 00:19:43,390 vice mayor, councilmember cavanaugh. You are looking, if I may navigate to it, 187 00:19:48,475 --> 00:19:51,115 at the category, other. The category, other, 188 00:19:53,065 --> 00:19:56,380 if we drill into it, has a number of revenues in it. Some of it are admin revenues, 189 00:19:58,525 --> 00:20:01,300 overhead that we collect from other areas, it includes courts fines and fees, 190 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:05,290 which came in as anticipated. A lot of the overage that we have here though is related to investment income. 191 00:20:10,780 --> 00:20:14,760 the rates and our investments, which really have a lot to do with the rates in the market, 192 00:20:17,130 --> 00:20:19,230 we are limited to what we can invest. Most of our investments are in fixed assets. 193 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:25,700 a lot of it are treasury agency funds. Those particular rates, as you are likely aware, 194 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:30,280 have stayed higher than anybody anticipated throughout the year. 195 00:20:34,390 --> 00:20:34,390 in a way, what some argue is difficult for the economy has been good for our returns. 196 00:20:43,180 --> 00:20:45,910 as we continue to invest that money that we had, the cash that we had, we achieved better returns that we anticipated. 197 00:20:49,900 --> 00:20:49,900 a lot of the 199% that you see there in total 198 00:20:55,090 --> 00:20:55,090 comes from better than anticipated returns as well a gain and loss on investments, 199 00:21:00,220 --> 00:21:00,220 which is really a book entry that by 200 00:21:04,630 --> 00:21:04,630 accounting regulations we have to show the difference between the cost, 201 00:21:09,175 --> 00:21:12,370 where we bought these investments that we hold and the market value of those investments at june 30. 202 00:21:16,405 --> 00:21:19,720 that is where the majority of the increase is coming from, but as well as some insurance claims and some program and special event revenues. 203 00:21:25,675 --> 00:21:28,990 >> the good thing, it's all revenue. >> yes, sir. >> okay. Thank you. 204 00:21:30,190 --> 00:21:30,190 >> any other questions? Thank you. 205 00:21:34,690 --> 00:21:38,190 >> thank you. >> consent agenda. May I have a motion. 206 00:21:42,595 --> 00:21:45,790 >> so moved. >> second. >> I have a motion and a second. All those in favor? 207 00:21:47,020 --> 00:21:47,680 >> aye. >> opposed. Item passes. 208 00:21:52,890 --> 00:21:52,890 tonight, we have two public hearings. 209 00:21:57,355 --> 00:21:57,355 I'm going to declare a conflict on both of them. 210 00:22:03,580 --> 00:22:03,580 although a1, I don't have a legal opinion and I have never met the individual. 211 00:22:08,875 --> 00:22:08,875 I honestly think it would be appropriate for me to declare a conflict 212 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:13,480 given the situation and so vice mayor, 213 00:22:18,070 --> 00:22:20,320 I will turn the dice over to you. >> thank you, mr. Mayor. Miss mcclary, 214 00:22:28,150 --> 00:22:31,045 could you read item a2 for me? >> item a1. 215 00:22:32,650 --> 00:22:35,680 >> I'm sorry. >> I just want to make sure. >> a1. [laughter] >> item a1, public hearing relating to development. 216 00:22:38,860 --> 00:22:42,550 approving a rezoning of approximately 39 acres of land generally located north of linda vista boulevard and southeast of twin peaks road. 217 00:22:46,255 --> 00:22:48,190 within a portion of section 14, township 12s range 12e, 218 00:22:50,275 --> 00:22:50,275 from r144, single family residential to r4, single family residential. 219 00:22:56,575 --> 00:23:00,190 approving a minor amendment to the marana 2040 general plan, amending the land use category, 220 00:23:02,020 --> 00:23:05,965 applicable to the rezoning area from low density residential, ldr, to traditional neighborhood tn and extending the town of 221 00:23:09,310 --> 00:23:09,310 marana water service area to include the rezoning area. 222 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:17,160 >> ready. Madam vice mayor, council members. 223 00:23:22,690 --> 00:23:26,200 [noise] last week, tuesday, we received a letter from 224 00:23:28,330 --> 00:23:28,330 the applicant's representative asking for this item to be continued. 225 00:23:32,575 --> 00:23:32,575 also to note, the next item a2 is also requested to be continued. 226 00:23:37,270 --> 00:23:39,670 this item was on the plan commission. Both items were on the plan commission last week. 227 00:23:42,415 --> 00:23:46,045 at that meeting, they were also requesting a continuance. The plan commission did vote unanimously to continue both items. 228 00:23:50,845 --> 00:23:54,730 what that means when we talk about a continuance and the request is this evening to continue the case to a date to be determined, 229 00:23:58,885 --> 00:24:00,595 so it's not a specific date. Because there is not a specific date, 230 00:24:02,995 --> 00:24:06,370 we will have to re-notice the public hearings whenever the applicants decide they want to continue moving forward. 231 00:24:10,195 --> 00:24:13,555 those notices will go out as they did the last time directly to all individuals within 300 feet of the subject property. 232 00:24:17,785 --> 00:24:21,415 they were advertised in the paper, they will also be on our website. Those then we'll start over, basically. 233 00:24:25,810 --> 00:24:29,335 we will go to planning commission first, then we'll come back to council. The reason why it's on this evening's agenda is because 234 00:24:32,005 --> 00:24:32,005 the public hearing notices went out before this request for a continuation was there. 235 00:24:37,345 --> 00:24:39,940 because it is on your agenda this evening, a public hearing is required for us to 236 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:46,600 hold for anybody that wishes to speak on either one of these items. Once that is done, staff's recommendation to the council is to 237 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:50,920 continue the linda vista 39 rezoning case to a date to be determined. 238 00:24:56,110 --> 00:24:59,650 with that, I'll be happy to address any questions. Otherwise, as I said, madam vice mayor, we do have to do a public hearing this evening. 239 00:25:05,730 --> 00:25:09,550 >> I'm going to go ahead if anyone has any questions. If not, I'll move ahead. 240 00:25:10,990 --> 00:25:13,025 >> I had a question, please. >> yes, mister. >> jason, do we have any information on why there's a continuance? 241 00:25:18,660 --> 00:25:18,660 are the applicants thinking about changing their building or asking for maybe 242 00:25:25,380 --> 00:25:28,845 some spreading out of some of their homes or reducing the two story homes, anything like that? 243 00:25:34,510 --> 00:25:36,635 are the applicants thinking about doing? >> vice mayor ziegler, councilmember cavanaugh. 244 00:25:39,150 --> 00:25:43,020 the only thing we have from the applicant is in the letter that they've stated, is that they've requested a continuance of 245 00:25:46,020 --> 00:25:49,485 the above reference case to allow for more time to evaluate the plan. They have not shared anything with staff regarding what that evaluation all 246 00:25:53,310 --> 00:25:55,950 entails and they have not represented any change to the plans that are currently on file with us. 247 00:25:59,165 --> 00:26:01,350 >> thank you, jason. >> yes. >> thank you, mr. Cavanaugh. 248 00:26:03,775 --> 00:26:07,540 let's move on to public hearing. >> yes. 249 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:12,595 >> vice mayor ziegler, I have three cards. >> miss mcclary. Go ahead. 250 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:16,480 >> the first speaker is randy carr, followed by maria m. 251 00:26:29,910 --> 00:26:32,950 >> good evening, miss vice mayor, members of council. My name is randy carr. 252 00:26:36,610 --> 00:26:36,610 I live at 5853 west oasis road and I appreciate the opportunity to speak to you tonight. 253 00:26:42,730 --> 00:26:42,730 as you know, I'm opposed to the rezoning of linda vista 39 and 13, 254 00:26:46,900 --> 00:26:50,005 it should be left in my opinion as a suburban ranch, maybe r6, r8, something like that. 255 00:26:52,690 --> 00:26:52,690 it doesn't create the strain on the infrastructure. 256 00:26:56,740 --> 00:26:56,740 I would like to think positively about this in the sense that hopefully maybe 257 00:27:01,510 --> 00:27:01,510 mr. Goodman and mr. Post would rethink it and try to work through this. 258 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:09,475 this has been very difficult, ladies and gentlemen. As I said to you before, 259 00:27:11,140 --> 00:27:14,860 this whole process seems just a little odd and tonight's another one, through another molec wrench into this one. 260 00:27:17,755 --> 00:27:20,515 but you know, for me, on june 3rd, it became crystal clear what was happening to me. 261 00:27:24,250 --> 00:27:24,250 just prior to the council meeting the applicant, dan post, 262 00:27:28,525 --> 00:27:28,525 approached me in a threatening manner right outside these doors of this building. 263 00:27:33,730 --> 00:27:36,370 at the meeting, mayor post, called me to the podium, 264 00:27:38,335 --> 00:27:40,480 attempting to break, belittle and intimidate me because I exercise my right of free speech. 265 00:27:43,615 --> 00:27:46,135 after the meeting, mayor post daughter, maggie approached me in the lobby as well, very upset. 266 00:27:49,855 --> 00:27:53,365 folks this behavior is described as bullying. It's unprofessional. 267 00:27:54,835 --> 00:27:57,040 it's clear the mayor and his family doesn't like me. Well, make no mistake. 268 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:01,420 the feeling's mutual. Although the town has succeeded in annexing it, 269 00:28:04,870 --> 00:28:08,320 you'll likely succeed in this rezoning when they do it. You have annexed three sides of my neighborhood. 270 00:28:12,865 --> 00:28:16,090 I have no representation and you refuse to annex it, you refuse to annex me. 271 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:18,280 now maybe you can understand why this is such a painful thing for me. 272 00:28:24,190 --> 00:28:27,775 this is not the stuff we need in the upcoming election. Angry neighbors, it's already gone too far in the sense of, 273 00:28:33,445 --> 00:28:33,445 we're not thinking about each other and what this is doing to each other. 274 00:28:37,750 --> 00:28:41,005 I just wish dan post would have asked his neighbors, "hey, I'm thinking about doing this, 275 00:28:43,300 --> 00:28:46,375 " because we would have probably not been sitting here tonight. But ladies and gentlemen, 276 00:28:48,610 --> 00:28:51,130 now I hope you understand. I'm not going to go away and I'm not going to be bullied, no matter who it is. 277 00:28:56,830 --> 00:28:59,980 ladies and gentlemen, thank you for your time. >> thank you. >> thank you, mr. Carr. Our next speaker is 278 00:29:04,690 --> 00:29:04,690 maria m. If bill cohen would like to still speak, you'd be up next. 279 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:15,120 >> good evening. I have lived in this area since 1992, 280 00:29:20,395 --> 00:29:20,395 back when cortaro was a tiny little one lane each way. 281 00:29:24,580 --> 00:29:26,695 >> cortaro is still a mess. I currently live in a neighborhood just off of hartman, 282 00:29:31,750 --> 00:29:34,090 and hartman is now a mess too. It needs to be a lane each way. 283 00:29:35,905 --> 00:29:38,965 it needs to have a left turn lane. The entire length of it, it needs right hand lane turn pull outs. It's dangerous. 284 00:29:42,625 --> 00:29:45,985 I have young people who ride bikes, and there is no safe place on linda vista or hartman to 285 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:49,480 ride a bike to get to the bus so that they can go to school and work. 286 00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:58,015 I like the post family. I'm friends with the post family, 287 00:29:59,740 --> 00:30:03,460 but I don't like that this little anic or this little rezoning change is taking us from 3.3 acres in 288 00:30:07,750 --> 00:30:11,170 pristine beautiful desert into high density housing with more people crammed in on roads that are already insufficient. 289 00:30:17,935 --> 00:30:17,935 the intersection of linda vista and hartman is not safe already. 290 00:30:23,605 --> 00:30:23,605 it's already backing up in multiple directions during high traffic volume. 291 00:30:28,300 --> 00:30:31,705 times there's no safety corridor for people to walk or to ride a bike on in any of those areas, 292 00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:38,365 and we're cramming more people in. That desert is beautiful. There's no choia in it. 293 00:30:39,850 --> 00:30:39,850 it's gorgeous desert that should be there and should be conserved and should 294 00:30:44,050 --> 00:30:44,050 be able to be enjoyed by all of those who are currently in the area. 295 00:30:48,535 --> 00:30:52,030 in addition to that, there has been nothing brought in by the town in that area for young people. 296 00:30:56,395 --> 00:31:00,265 you put all of these young people packed in tightly, and they're going to get bored. 297 00:31:02,530 --> 00:31:04,975 we know what happens when young people get bored. We're not attracting any of the business into 298 00:31:07,210 --> 00:31:10,720 that mall area that provides family entertainment. There's no dave & busters. 299 00:31:12,010 --> 00:31:14,260 there's no fat cats. There's no main event. There's nothing for our young people to do, 300 00:31:16,930 --> 00:31:16,930 and we keep building tighter and tighter and packing them in tighter and tighter. 301 00:31:21,130 --> 00:31:24,460 they need stuff. We don't need car washes. We don't need self-storage. 302 00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:25,720 we do not need any more rental apartments, or neighborhoods. 303 00:31:29,965 --> 00:31:33,190 leave it, please, as the 3.3 acres, allow people to breathe. 304 00:31:34,825 --> 00:31:38,380 that's why people are attracted to marana. We have breathing room. We want to maintain our breathing room, 305 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:43,660 and we love our desert. It's gorgeous. We want to maintain it. 306 00:31:44,980 --> 00:31:48,415 I ask you please to reconsider this rezoning. Please leave it as 3.3. 307 00:31:50,545 --> 00:31:53,845 look at how there's pockets in marana that could accommodate tighter building if you want to. 308 00:31:57,550 --> 00:32:01,270 that's not the area to do it. Please bring stuff for our young people, safety and entertainment. Thank you. 309 00:32:03,970 --> 00:32:07,090 >> thank you. >> thank you for your comments. >> do we have one more? 310 00:32:08,875 --> 00:32:08,875 >> I have one more speaker card for mr. Cohen, would you like to speak? 311 00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:16,660 >> [inaudible] >> all right. Thank you. 312 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:25,560 >> declare the public hearing closed. 313 00:32:30,270 --> 00:32:30,270 does anyone on the council have any questions? 314 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:35,640 hearing none, do I have a motion? 315 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:50,275 no motions to continue the item? Oh, I'm sorry, council member. 316 00:32:53,050 --> 00:32:53,050 >> I moved to continue the linda 39 rezoning case to a date to be determined. 317 00:32:58,930 --> 00:33:01,120 >> do I have a second? >> second. 318 00:33:03,085 --> 00:33:03,085 >> all those in favor? All those opposed? 319 00:33:07,555 --> 00:33:08,860 >> no. >> looks like it's 42. Thank you. 320 00:33:19,890 --> 00:33:19,890 >> item a2. 321 00:33:25,020 --> 00:33:27,670 >> item a2 I wasn't sure. >> item a2, public hearing relating to development. 322 00:33:31,045 --> 00:33:34,330 approving a rezoning of approximately 13 acres of land generally located north of linda vista boulevard and southeast of twin peaks road, 323 00:33:37,765 --> 00:33:39,595 within a portion of section 14, township 12s range 12e, 324 00:33:41,935 --> 00:33:41,935 from r144 single family residential to r4, single family residential. 325 00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:50,800 approving a minor amendment to the marana 2040 general plan, amending the land use category applicable to 326 00:33:52,990 --> 00:33:56,425 the rezoning area from low density residential ldr, to traditional neighborhood tn, 327 00:33:58,075 --> 00:33:58,075 and extending the town of morano water service area to include the rezoning area. 328 00:34:03,990 --> 00:34:07,330 >> thank you. Mr. Angel. >> madam vice mayor and counsel, as I stated, 329 00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:12,550 this item is also requested to be continued. Same letter was provided by the planning center. 330 00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:19,030 the suggested motion for this one is to continue the linda vista 13 rezoning case to a date to be determined. 331 00:34:23,350 --> 00:34:26,590 once again, because the public hearing was noticed, we do have to allow for the opportunity for 332 00:34:28,810 --> 00:34:32,260 anyone to make comments under the public hearing. >> we're now in public hearing. 333 00:34:36,835 --> 00:34:40,330 do we have any speaker callers, miss mcclary. >> vice mayor, I have one for jenny debra. 334 00:34:42,550 --> 00:34:42,550 >> okay. 335 00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:00,655 >> good evening, council members. As you know, my name is jenny debra, 336 00:35:02,635 --> 00:35:02,635 and I live at 96 85 north linda vista place. 337 00:35:06,850 --> 00:35:06,850 I'm here tonight to respectfully urge you not to approve 338 00:35:10,870 --> 00:35:10,870 the ultra-high density r4 zoning that's currently planned for linda vista 13 and 39. 339 00:35:17,500 --> 00:35:17,500 instead, please require these designs to incorporate lower density, 340 00:35:22,915 --> 00:35:22,915 larger lots, and exclusively single story. 341 00:35:27,715 --> 00:35:27,715 brian underwood with the planning center who represents the applicants, 342 00:35:32,410 --> 00:35:32,410 claims trends now show that buyers want smaller lots. 343 00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:37,360 however, national data and industry studies directly contradict this. 344 00:35:42,505 --> 00:35:46,390 buyers have simply been adapting to the high interest rates that we've had for several years. 345 00:35:50,650 --> 00:35:54,505 they're not abandoning their long term preferences. Since 2021, mortgage rates have more than doubled. 346 00:35:58,420 --> 00:35:58,420 driving a monthly payment on a $400,000 mortgage from 13 and $40 to over $2,300. 347 00:36:07,915 --> 00:36:07,915 with affordability at its lowest level since 1989, 348 00:36:11,950 --> 00:36:14,755 buyers have been forced into lower price points, which usually means smaller lots, 349 00:36:17,095 --> 00:36:20,740 not because they want them, but because that's what their budget demands. A 2023 survey by the national association of home builders found that 350 00:36:25,900 --> 00:36:29,500 almost 65% of buyers would rather compromise on lot size than home size if affordability became an issue. 351 00:36:34,045 --> 00:36:34,045 in other words, square footage is prioritized, not small lots. 352 00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:38,440 pew research reports show nearly 70% of americans would 353 00:36:42,610 --> 00:36:42,610 still prefer homes on larger lots when given the choice. 354 00:36:47,245 --> 00:36:47,245 this is important because interest rates are already falling from 355 00:36:51,340 --> 00:36:51,340 nearly 8% in 2023 down to 6.5% in july of this year, 356 00:36:57,205 --> 00:36:59,980 with further declines expected to continue. Small lot subdivisions are being driven by temporary conditions, 357 00:37:04,315 --> 00:37:07,090 not permanent buyer demand shifts. If we design permanent neighborhoods around short-term market distortions, 358 00:37:11,995 --> 00:37:11,995 we risk creating developments that are out of step with future buyer preferences. 359 00:37:16,540 --> 00:37:20,455 why build something that satisfies only today's affordability squeeze when tomorrow's demand will shift back to the normalcy of larger lots. 360 00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:24,760 this council has both the authority and the responsibility to ensure growth 361 00:37:29,110 --> 00:37:29,110 respects the scale and character of existing owner occupied neighborhoods. 362 00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:33,880 the amh rental community to the west already addresses interim housing needs, 363 00:37:38,455 --> 00:37:39,640 so it makes no sense for an upscale gated development to be patterned after rental housing. 364 00:37:43,780 --> 00:37:46,615 despite this indefinite continuance, as these projects move forward, 365 00:37:48,565 --> 00:37:51,340 I respectfully ask that you, again, please require these designs to incorporate lower density, 366 00:37:55,390 --> 00:37:58,930 larger lots, and only single story. Let's grow in a way that honors marana's own stated vision, 367 00:38:02,305 --> 00:38:05,215 protecting the value and the character of our neighborhoods, and ensuring developments built today still makes sense a decade from now. 368 00:38:09,580 --> 00:38:12,900 thank you very much for your time. >> thank you, miss deray. If we have noma cards, 369 00:38:19,315 --> 00:38:19,315 I'm going to declare the public clearing it's closed. 370 00:38:24,175 --> 00:38:24,175 are there any questions from the council? 371 00:38:30,240 --> 00:38:30,240 none. Okay. Do we have a motion to continue? 372 00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:44,395 >> motion. >> council member, kai are you making a motion? 373 00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:47,000 >> continue, linda, this is a 13 rezoning case to a date to be determined. 374 00:38:55,770 --> 00:38:59,580 >> do I hear a second? >> second. >> all those in favor? 375 00:39:01,885 --> 00:39:04,390 >> aye. >> aye. >> all those oppose? >> no. 376 00:39:17,550 --> 00:39:17,550 >> thank you, jason. 377 00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:25,200 thank you, vice mayor. D1. 378 00:39:30,130 --> 00:39:33,505 >> item d1, relating to development and public works. Update, discussion, and possible direction regarding public and private projects and 379 00:39:37,630 --> 00:39:39,100 development applications on the town's marana current and proposed projects internet site. 380 00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:48,970 >> mr. Angel. >> mr. Mayor. Good evening. As we do the first meeting of every month, 381 00:39:51,115 --> 00:39:51,115 we do a little update on development activity dashboard. 382 00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:59,350 I want to give thanks to staff, the planners, as well as the gis staff for their quick work to get this 383 00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:06,640 updated today with the holiday weekend, and all that. It was a rush today in the office to get things updated, 384 00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:12,325 but I greatly appreciate their efforts. Not too much to update this evening for commercial projects. 385 00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:17,080 we have under review the second hanger for jd russell, as you know, 386 00:40:24,145 --> 00:40:26,245 actually, on the aerial imagery here, this little white building right here is 387 00:40:28,345 --> 00:40:31,900 the existing hangar out at the airport that jd russell has. They're now looking to move forward with building their second hangar out there, 388 00:40:36,250 --> 00:40:36,250 so staff is reviewing that project right now. 389 00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:41,640 nothing new from a residential project standpoint, 390 00:40:46,330 --> 00:40:46,330 as well as land use applications. 391 00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:53,830 commercial permits. We had 10 for the month. 392 00:40:56,935 --> 00:41:00,835 two of them are new buildings, eight of them are remodels. From a business license standpoint, 393 00:41:04,615 --> 00:41:08,470 we have a total of 12 for the month, four are service, three are retail to our contractors, 394 00:41:10,915 --> 00:41:13,975 one online sale, one assisted living, and yes, one restaurant. 395 00:41:16,150 --> 00:41:16,150 this restaurant is the kyrene asian bistro and sushi bar. 396 00:41:22,720 --> 00:41:22,720 this will be going in where borrows pizza used to be down in arizona pavilions, 397 00:41:32,575 --> 00:41:36,340 that'll be the restaurant that moves into that. They just submitted their application. 398 00:41:38,980 --> 00:41:40,720 I would say, a couple of months, depending upon the amount of renovations after going there. 399 00:41:43,705 --> 00:41:45,820 >> what kind of restaurant was that, mr. Angel? > it's asian bistro and sushi. 400 00:41:49,255 --> 00:41:51,900 >> thank you. >> from a residential permit standpoint, 401 00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:56,845 as mr. Rozema had stated, had lower numbers this month, 39 total residential. 402 00:42:02,500 --> 00:42:05,335 if you look at the graph on the bottom here, that is the lowest number we've had for 18 months, 403 00:42:11,620 --> 00:42:14,740 going back to february of 2023, was the last time we had numbers that were below 40 for sfr in a month. 404 00:42:20,215 --> 00:42:20,215 but you can also see that over the last couple of months, 405 00:42:24,445 --> 00:42:26,440 those numbers have been lower. We do anticipate with a number of developments that are 406 00:42:28,900 --> 00:42:31,510 moving forward with dirt work right now. One of them being monarch right behind us has three blocks that will be opening up. 407 00:42:35,785 --> 00:42:35,785 building permits have been issued for model homes to be going up there, 408 00:42:39,790 --> 00:42:39,790 so we'll see homes going vertical behind this campus here shortly. 409 00:42:44,380 --> 00:42:44,380 likewise, over in the mandarina development on the east side of i10, 410 00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:51,040 there's probably about two dozen homes that are under construction right now over there. 411 00:42:56,670 --> 00:42:56,670 >> are you saying you attribute that to inventory? 412 00:43:01,525 --> 00:43:04,390 >> mr. Mayor, I attribute a portion of that to also the available lots that are out there. 413 00:43:09,100 --> 00:43:09,100 dirt ready available lots for builders to move into. 414 00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:18,700 not entirely, though. I will say there are other market conditions that may be driving that. 415 00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:25,705 multi-family, nothing new there. Building permit activity I didn't quite get this up to date, 416 00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:34,930 but the total number of permits are falling in line with what we see typically over the month. 417 00:43:38,590 --> 00:43:41,410 likewise, inspections also, we haven't gotten that one up to all the numbers up to date there, 418 00:43:44,830 --> 00:43:44,830 but we are also seeing about 1,600 inspections for the month. 419 00:43:50,125 --> 00:43:51,700 with that, mr. Mayor, I'll be happy to address any questions that council might have. 420 00:43:54,445 --> 00:43:54,445 >> anybody have any questions for mr. Angel. Thank you, jason. 421 00:43:59,305 --> 00:44:00,445 >> thank you. >> we do not need an executive session, future agenda items. 422 00:44:06,175 --> 00:44:06,175 motion to adjourn? We are adjourned.