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>> great. I'd like to call the regularly scheduled january 6,

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marana town council meeting to order. Roll call, please? >> mayor post.

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>> here. >> vice mayor ziegler. >> present. >> council member kavanagh. >> yes. >> council member comerford.

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>> yes. >> council member kay? >> he is excused. >> council member murphy? >> present.

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>> council member officer. >> yes. >> a quorum is present. >> thank you very much. Please stand for the pledge of

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allegiance followed by a short moment of silence.

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thank you. Please be seated.

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approval of agenda? >> moved second.

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>> motion and a second to approve the agenda, all in favor. >> aye. >> opposed. Motion passes. Call to the public.

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at this time, any member of the public is allowed to address the town council on any issue within the jurisdiction of the town council,

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except for items scheduled for a public hearing at this meeting.

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do we have speaker cards? >> yes, mr. Mayor, we have three speakers for the call the public.

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>> tonight, we are going because of the sheer volume of speakers that we have.

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we're going to let everybody speak tonight, but we will limit the time for 2 minutes so tonight's time for speakers is 2 minutes,

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and we're still going to be here a couple hours so please proceed.

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>> the first speaker is david sea, followed by dave hindman and roland baker,

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and I did just get a fourth card for the call of public.

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>> welcome, sir. >> thank you sir. My name is david sea,

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I am a marana resident for over eight years, retired.

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chairman, with 27 years of active duty service, and I'm the chairman of the marana veteran cemetery found.

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thank you for this opportunity. Our marana veteran cemetery will celebrate it's tenth anniversary in march,

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and there are over 5700 interred there today.

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it took a community, strong leadership, perseverance, and generosity from others to have it come to fruition.

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the kay family was essential to our cemetery's existence as

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a graciously donated 42 acres in honoring our veterans.

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the family made it clear that when they transferred the title of the land to the arizona department of veterans services,

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that land was to only be used for a veterans cemetery.

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I want to thank you all for your leadership.

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careful planning, with establishing an ordinance to mitigate potential noise intrusions to our cemetery.

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help achieve one of paul marsh's agenda items of having

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another access road to the cemetery off of panel air park,

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and continuing to grow our community while adapting to the future needs of our technologies and way of life.

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I know in my heart that every decision you make is with the best intentions,

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not only for our veterans, but all of us who reside in this fast growing community.

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I am one of your strongest supporters and god bless you for your efforts. Thank you.

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>> thank you. [applause]

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>> the next speaker is dave hindman, followed by ron baker and dennis shannon.

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>> mayor post, vice mayor ziegler, council members. My name is dave hindman.

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my family and I have been residents of marana for over 15 years now.

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I'm currently on the marana chamber of commerce board of directors. I was formally on the marana citizens forum before that was disbanded.

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I wanted to thank the council and the town for your leadership.

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I live very close to the twin peaks improvements at rattlesnake pass.

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that project turned out fantastic. Our neighborhood loves it. I just want to thank the town for having the foresight to think ahead of needs of

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the community and to also plan for improvements in infrastructure that benefits my family directly,

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whether it's parks, roads, other items, and really focusing on things that will help improve our community and doing so in ways

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that don't pass the costs directly onto me as a community member. Thank you.

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>> thank you very much. [applause]

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>> the next speaker is roland baker, followed by dennis shannon.

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>> good evening, council members. Good evening, mayor. Thank you for allowing me to be here yet again.

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the reason I'm here today is to beg and plead with

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you that we do not open a detention center and we do not open a jail.

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neither of those are viable options for that building that mtc had.

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we in the pma resist ice, that's our group.

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we came up with a position paper, and I would like to read a couple parts of that position paper for you.

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I have copies for each and every one of you of the position paper and a couple of other things for

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you to peruse at the end of this meeting. What is our moral argument?

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why there should not be a detention center? Our religious traditions strongly teach a care for the poor and the vulnerable.

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we do not believe that any human being is illegal. We treat each other with dignity and we welcome the stranger.

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christmas just happened. Who was that stranger in that stable?

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we humbly see ourselves in the presence of the people seeking sanctuary in our midst.

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most of us have fore bearers who made such a pursuit. We strongly support legal pathways to citizenship.

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such legal pathways urgently need to be reinstated in our national immigration system.

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we cannot allow us this town of marana or any part

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of arizona to put people in detention centers in prisons.

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they are making money off of human beings. That's what this detention center is about, making money off of human beings.

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that's what you need to think about. When you understand that there is a detention center that possibly could be opened.

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I implore everyone here to please not allow the detention center to be opened.

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I ask that you read our position papers and the other papers that I gave to you.

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thank you for your time and hopefully you will listen. Thank you.

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>> thank you very much. [applause]

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>> the last speaker for the call the public is dennis shannon.

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>> mayor, council members, dennis shannon, you've heard from me before and you've heard over the last few weeks,

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many people in opposition to this proposed is detention center.

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lots of different people with lots of different perspectives.

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but all very compelling reasons to oppose this detention center.

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it doesn't matter if your political views are conservative or progressive.

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it doesn't matter if you're on the left or on the right. These are all reasons not to allow this detention center to exist.

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we've heard lots of people say why it shouldn't exist.

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we just heard rolen say why it shouldn't exist. I'd like to touch very briefly on the

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how pma resist is is a coalition of groups that are opposing the detention center.

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we've been working with the american civil liberties union and their attorneys to discover,

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work through actual tools, legal and administrative tools that can be used to effectively

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prevent this detention center from being put into operation.

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this is an ongoing research project. It's unfolding, and we would like to share what we've learned

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about possible ways of preventing the detention center.

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but we have not been able to meet with any of the council members, so we request that when we request to meet with you,

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your constituents that you meet with us. Thank you [applause].

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>> mayor and council report. Council member kavanagh.

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>> thank you. Mayor, I appreciate it. Wife and I were visiting the marana lake over there l rio,

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when you mentioned it on your facebook page. I just think it's beautiful. They trimmed out a lot of the all those cotton tail weeds.

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they're invasive species, you know? It's really nice over there. It's nice to walk around and see things,

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and we actually took a walk up the loop a little bit and saw those beautiful petroglyphs right there on the side of the mountain,

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right there, something to behold. You can just locate it. There's pvc pipes sticking up,

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get you right in there. It's beautiful. That's all I had, mayor. Thank you.

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>> council member comerford.

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>> sorry. There we go.

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good evening al. I had a couple of things, mayor.

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first of all, I wanted to tell you all about a new restaurant in town that my family and I went to.

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that el rancho market has a small cantina inside, and it's wonderful.

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it's a great little place plus they have so much for sale in there

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for their sauces and everything that they make and they do everything by hand.

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I just wanted to say, hora for somebody coming in new.

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they worked hard to get there. They're on ina road.

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I'm trying to think what they're across from. I maybe close to old father. The signal there.

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any case, give them a try. You'll like it. That was my first thing, and then I have my notes.

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I wanted to talk about something I've never seen in marana,

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and it saddens me and all the reports that I've been reading,

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I had, and a 80-year-old woman,

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write a report about how she felt about what's going on in

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marana and wants to attend meetings, but she's fearful.

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she's fearful if she gets up and speaks what might happen to her at the end of our meetings,

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and that really saddens me that somebody does not feel safe in our town.

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we've never had that before. I want to tell any of you I don't care which side you're on. Doesn't matter.

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if you don't feel safe or you're scared or whatever the reason is,

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you come up here and we'll make sure you have escort to your vehicle so that you are safe,

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you're kept safe because that's important to us.

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I know we had some we run out of data center ordinance?

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anybody get data center ordinances tonight?

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they were on the table when you checked in so we wanted to make

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sure that you were able to get that. I had made I never go on social media. I hate that thing.

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I love going on to read and I read everything and I read what you're

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all saying and I read your content and your feelings.

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I get it. I think we all get it and you know,

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I wanted you to know that this poor woman really got to me, got to my heart.

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my post in social media was I want to say not taken in the text that I meant it.

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I meant it to be informative and some people said I was offensive and rude,

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and that was definitely not my intention. What my intention is I always want people to have information.

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I really wanted you to be able to have a copy of that ordinance.

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no that it's the end all, but that you see what we did when we started hearing about this stuff and the research

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and the work that went into what we want and don't want in marana.

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that was the reason why I wanted more ordinances out there.

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I would say probably 95% of the complaints I got were about water.

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just fully so, our ordinance states that you can't use one drop of marana water.

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you'll hear about that throughout the night. I just wanted that.

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I wanted you also to know that marana does not have a property tax. I don't know if you knew that.

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you'll get your property tax notices, but you won't see one for the town of marana,

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and that has to do with our planning.

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what we have done to make sure like our old mayor said,

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never going to be a property text in marana. I can't dedicate that, but I can say for sure that we haven't and we don't plan on it and we plan well

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with our growth and everything going on in marana to help avoid that.

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the other thing is speaking of ed, it saddens me.

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our mayor passed away a little over a year ago and what saddens me is

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the reports of usage of funds donated at election time.

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ed ran unopposed. He didn't need $1.

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he got it delivered to him a lot and he didn't spend one.

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I don't think he spent one dime. Maybe he did, but most of that money went directly to the food bank.

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it went directly to the food bank, and talking about a dead man that's not here to defend himself,

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I think is cowardly. I'm just going to stipulate that. That's all I'm going to say.

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what I'm telling you are the facts, that money went to the food bank because they

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were looking to purchase their property there in.

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we've been improving that service since the original folks

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left it. That was my final thing.

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it saddened me to see the mayor talked about that way.

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he died doing his job. One of two that I've seen recently,

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and I don't want to be number 3. >> thank you, mayor.

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>> thank you, patty. [applause] council member officer?

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>> no report, mayor. >> council member murphy? >> just real quick. I just want to give a shout out to everyone that lives in the town of

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marana for all that you did for all the families during christmas, from donating clothes to food to the hertagna for donating food to our food bank as well.

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but anyway, just a shout out to everyone for being so upfront and just making our town what it is today.

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thank you guys so much. [applause] >> thank you, council member murphy.

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I'm going to give my time over to the vice mayor.

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I almost forgot you. I was close. >> I saw that. >> [laughter] good catch. [laughter] vice mayor?

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>> no report, mayor. >> mr. Rozema. >> mr. Mayor, vice mayor, members of council,

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I'll forego my report tonight in the interested time. I know we have a lot of people who are going to want to speak tonight.

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I will just make sure that everyone is aware, in case you feel like sitting down.

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if you want to stand, that's fantastic. But over at the pd, across the courtyard over there,

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we have an overflow room, pretty comfy, I think, if you're interested in being seated during the meeting tonight.

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>> thank you. Moving on to the consent agenda, do I have a motion to approve?

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>> motion to approve, mayor. >> second. >> we have a motion and a second. All of those in favor.

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>> aye. >> aye. >> opposed? Item passes. A1

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>> item a1, public hearing. Ordinance number 2026.001, relating to utilities,

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amending the town of marana comprehensive fee schedule by successfully increasing the water-based fee,

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water consumption rates, groundwater resource acquisition fee, monthly wastewater service fee,

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and wastewater volume charge. For all marana residential and non-residential water and wastewater customers,

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effective february 6, 2026, january 1, 2027, january 1,

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2028, january 1, 2029, and january 1, 2030.

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resolution number 2026-004 relating to utilities,

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declaring as a public record filed with the town clerk, the amendments adopted by ordinance number 2026.001.

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>> good evening, heidi. >> good evening, mayor. Sorry, this first one colin dret is not here with us today.

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I will be the one giving the presentation this evening. This is our rate study public hearing.

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here you will see that marana water is here to provide safe and reliable drinking water 24/7 365,

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and on here you will see a lot of our stats. As it goes, we have 218 miles of mains.

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you'll see sewer mains, fire hydrants, and about 13,000 water customers and just shy of 8,000 water reclamation customers.

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just to give a little background on this study that we did.

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the last one was conducted in 2019, which we all know is pre-covid,

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so a lot has happened during covid. A lot of increases in prices of materials and supplies,

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so this rate study will capture all of that.

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also, the production are operating as well as our capital costs.

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if we take what we are bringing in today in the door and projecting our expenses over the next five years,

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that will not cover what those expenses are projected to be. The recommendation is an annual increase of both the water and water reclamation rates.

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the town continues, like I had said, initially to be fair and reasonable.

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we're here to deliver safe and reliable drinking water that also constitutes taking out the contaminants in our water,

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which is a large portion of what the rate increases is supporting,

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delivering high quality services for today into the future.

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onto our financial forecasting. Basically what we do is the first thing we do,

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is take the baseline where we are today with our revenues and then forecast in our operating costs and expenses.

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we develop our cashflow, and then lastly look at assessing revenue sufficiencies.

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if you know a lot of the brand new houses there,

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we have a lot of water saving devices that we're putting into these houses today so a lot of our houses are actually using a lot less water than we have in the past.

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we also take into account inflationary pressures. Like I had mentioned covid and the big inflations that took place then,

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we take that into account in this situation. We also look at the regulatory requirements that are increasing,

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which is the pfas. You'll see what effect those have on our increases.

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step 1, like we had talked about, we're doing revenue projections on the existing rates.

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we forecast, we look at the water, we have about 780 edus this year,

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and we're projecting approximately 480 per year. The reclamation side is 660 edus this year and about 400 moving forward.

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our growth is about 1% less than the account growth, my apologies.

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we assume we're increasing our conservation, like I mentioned, putting in those water saving devices into our houses.

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this is looking at the baseline. This is step 1,

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where we are on both sides of the house on the water side as well as the reclamation side.

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then this looks at the inflation. Back in 2019, we were roughly about 2% on the inflation side,

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and you can see from that date forward to where we are today that big jump that we had in the center,

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and we're coming down and we're roughly around that 3% inflation as of march of 2025.

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then we take a look at our operating expenses.

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at this point we first start with our 2026 budget,

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which is our starting point, and then we add in the inflation and incremental adjustments.

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we look at all the major assumptions, our payroll, health, any variable costs that we have.

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we add that all in, and then we take into the detailed forecast additional positions, meaning staff,

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vehicles, any equipment that they need to do their jobs, water quality, and then contracted services.

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that would be our outside contractors that we bring in to perform duties for us.

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then looking at operating expenses, looking at 13 new positions,

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six for water, four for reclamation, one shared, and then a couple of interns.

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along with that, we also have to have vehicles and equipment for those folks to do those jobs.

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looking at water quality, increase in testing, adding in contracted services.

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the water projects that we have, we have our meter replacement program,

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which is about 300,000 a year. We have our uv maintenance as well.

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the picture on the left, you'll see those are our staff actually changing out the bulbs in the uv,

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so maintenance that needs to take place. Layering in our operating expenses on top of that first one.

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our capital expenses represent investment over long term assets.

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rates are a source of funding for capital projects.

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we also have capital expenses for rates funded, that annual pay as you go,

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or we have principal and interest.

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sorry about that. We also bring in grants, not impact fee projects,

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those are separately funded projects that are not included in the rate study.

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another project to highlight is our water rehabilitation program.

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the town tries to do one well per year. We have funds that are set aside to rehab one well per year as well as one reservoir.

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we actually bring folks in to inspect each of the reservoirs looking for any inefficiencies,

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and we fix those as we go. Water service line replacement.

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this, as you can see, some pictures are of some main breaks. If we have an area that has consistent water breaks,

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we'll put that in as one of our next projects as water service line project replacement,

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so that we're not continually doing band aids, but we'll do one bigger project.

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then the big one is pfas. This is the contaminant that we have that's in our water.

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here you'll see that we have four wells that need to have the treatment put on them.

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you'll also see that it's split between not only rates, but also impact fees.

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you'll see a portion of it will be included in the rates while anything that's

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impact fee related would be for future customers.

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another project that we do is on the reclamation side as we inspect not only our service lines,

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but we also inspect our manholes and lift stations. On the bottom you'll see a cctv camera going through our pipes.

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they will be jet cleaned with water, and then we go through and look for any inefficiencies and fix those as well.

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that is part of our rates as well. Then this is layered on into the cashflow and revenue side of things.

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here you can see the layering of expenses, operating capital, and total on the right side is layering all three of them together.

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on the recommendation side there's a gap between where we are today and where we

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need to go with all of the projects that need to be completed for maintenance and pfas,

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and you'll see this is where we're trying to close that shortfall gap with this rate increase.

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the recommendation on the water side is a 10.5% year over year increase and on the reclamation side,

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it's a 2.5% increase, is what the recommendation is.

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this shows the gap between where we were before,

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or I should say today and where we would be in the five years and how we would close that gap.

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as far as the bill impacts go, you can see what the typical rates are today,

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the 51.80 and 53.43, so 105.23, if you have both water as well as wastewater,

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although we do have some customers that may have just water as well as some that might just have

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wastewater and might have tucson water or another water provider.

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this is the year over year increases that you can expect.

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no. Then as far as this goes with the bill comparison,

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everybody likes to see how we're compared amongst each other. You can see that we're not the most expensive,

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but we're also not the least expensive. We're toward the bottom there.

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you'll see that marana's existing is $107 and the proposed being $114,

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a bill if you had both marana water and wastewater.

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just a few other things to highlight as far as bill assistance goes,

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that we do have cdbg grant money that is available for utility assistance.

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that's not only for water or wastewater. If you're having trouble with the tep bill, that can help as well.

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we did get a high use payment plan that was passed, thank you. That is helpful for our customers.

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then a couple other programs that we're looking at is the roundup program as well as budget billing to offer those services to our customers.

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where we are today, we are at step 8 with the public hearing and possible adoption.

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then if approved today, the next step would be that on february 6,

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these rates would go into effect. With that, I will take questions.

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>> I neglected to open this public hearing. This is a public hearing. We are in public hearing at this time.

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does any of the council have a question for staff?

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>> mr. Mayor? >> yes. >> I'd like to mention when we're back to pfas.

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that's been very successful for us. Jane, I'm looking at you for a few numbers,

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but the town did spend. >> the lawsuits have been successful, right?

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>> yes, sir. >> pfas has not been successful at all. [laughter]

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>> oh no, I want to be crystal clear, I'm sorry. Thank you, mayor.

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we went out with the urging of a lot of our citizens a couple of years ago,

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and the two wells that were affected were the airline lambert and the picture rocks.

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they did have pfas. We spent, I think about $16 million on each one of

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those campuses to clean those two wells.

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to this day, they are clean, they've been clean. These folks are getting some of the cleanest water in southern arizona.

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I want to thank our attorney,

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jane farrell, and everyone who worked on this. We also had some outside attorneys that we

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entered into agreements with for 3m and to say, we want reimbursed for some of this.

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you know, we've been dealing with that for about two years, three years now,

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and we were successful here just recently in getting several million dollars

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back towards the money that we've spent so far in mitigating pfas.

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I just want to bring up a little bit of a success story. Thank you, mayor.

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>> thank you, vice mayor. I was going to ask the same question. I think for a little bit of clarification for the audience,

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we have been in a legal battle over pfas

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for many years and have done quite well continuing to

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fight to get all of the monies back that we are going to

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spend on reclamation of cleaning the water for our residents.

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heidi mentioned that putting in pfas treatment centers is a huge portion of why we need a rate increase.

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heidi, my question to you is as we are successful in these lawsuits,

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how can we interject that money and skip a year or two of rate increases,

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or do we have to come back and study that? How does that work?

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>> good question. >> does somebody want to answer that?

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>> mr. Mayor, vice mayor, members of council, with respect to the pfas issue,

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there's two main elements. One has to do with the capital component to actually build the plants,

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and one has to do with the operations and maintenance of the plants. On both sides we're exploring options and seeking legal remedies associated with each.

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it's our hope that we may be successful if we pursue what's called a circle claim,

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which is under a superfund site, and there are certain options and avenues that may provide some type

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of revenue offset for some of the ongoing maintenance costs, because even once the projects are built and serving the water in the community,

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there's a significant operations and maintenance element. Any monies that might be received to offset

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the operations and maintenance side would supplement that and we could entertain in type of

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either modification or change or bring something back before council, is just would require additional analysis.

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but for the purpose of the rate model that's brought before council for consideration,

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it assumes and has factored in what the anticipated ongoing maintenance costs are going

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to be to keep those plants providing the water. >> thank you very much,

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derrick. Do we have any other questions? >> I had a question. >> hold on. Council member comerford and then council member kavanagh.

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>> I just wanted to mention the fact that we had an outstanding,

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now that we do too now, water director that brought the whole pfas to our attention

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long before the epa ever decided that they were going to come out with numbers.

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matter of fact, we had our two first sites up and running by the time they came out with their numbers.

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I'm proud of our staff and the fact that we try to stay ahead of this stuff,

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and I know you're trying to stay ahead with it too. Unfortunately, these things happen.

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>> but fortunately we have what people in marana drink and the best water in the country.

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I just wanted to add that to it. >> council member kavanagh?

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>> yeah, heidi, I had a question on table 26. If you could go to that. Is it 26?

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yeah. You have a comparison there. That would be the 2026 bill versus neighboring utilities.

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marana propose would be $114 for the average user.

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is that for wastewater as well as drinking water? >> that would be a combined bill.

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>> now, if you look back at the bill impact sheet, the previous slide,

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25, I don't see 114 of the 2025 bill.

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I see 105. >> yes, I'm sorry. That is a miss on this slide.

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>> okay. >> that should have been updated. >> got it. At a glance, said?

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you wonder why is marana water. Is it not even 2026, is it?

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>> no. Is off $2 in 2020. >> 2026, the total number is 112,

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and this is 114. Go back to what the mayor said,

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we could find a way to not impact the marana citizen too much,

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maybe cut off a year or something because cost of living in marana's is

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significantly higher when it comes to water compared to neighboring cities in the arizona? Just a thought.

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>> yes, mayor post vice mayor cavanaugh, I understand, and we really tried really hard to just we put

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the bare bones of what we needed on both the maintenance side as well as project side to try and really keep what we could

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down and keep the interests of our customers in mind. >> thank you. We have a problem in this area, the pfas contamination.

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it's just here. Absolutely, it costs a lot of money to clean it up. Thank you.

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>> any other questions from counsel for staff? Do we have anybody from the public that would like to speak on this item tonight?

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>> mr. Mayor, I have not gotten any speaker cards for this topic.

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>> I do not believe we need anything to happen tonight for this item, correct?

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>> mr. Mayor, I believe we do need a vote on this item to adopt the ordinance and resolution.

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>> I thought that was in february. That's when it takes place. Do I have a motion?

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>> I'll make a motion mayor. I'm going to adopt ordinance 2026 001 amending the town of marana comprehensive fee schedule.

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I successfully increasing the water based, water consumption rates, groundwater resource,

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and recreation fee, acquisition fee, monthly wastewater service fee,

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and the wastewater volume charge for all marana residents. Non residential water and wastewater customers effective february 6,

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2026, february 1st, 2027 and january 1st,

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2008, january 1st, 2009, and january 1st, 2030,

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and to adopt resolution 2026 004,

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making the changes a public record.

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>> do I have a second to that really long motion? [laughter] well, the motion a second. All those in favor.

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>> aye. >> pose. Motion passes.

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the town clerk has a giant stack of speaker cards down there,

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and she missed one for a call to the public.

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we are going to stop what we're doing, and we are going to call that person forward and hear what they have to say.

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>> thank you, mr. Mayor. Apologize to bennett burke. Apologize that we mislabeled your card. I apologize.

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>> mayor, vice mayor, council and staff.

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I'm a marana resident, and tonight I'm here to speak about the moral dimension of a detention center in marana.

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this governing body has told us that it can't do anything to stop an ice detention center in marana. Maybe so.

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but every good and decent person can use their own voice to speak out like we are doing tonight,

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like I am doing right now. On this fifth anniversary of

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trump's violent attempt to overthrow a legitimate election to stay in power.

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each of us must speak out against the pure evil of this administration,

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from its racist and violent persecution of migrants by trump's mass gestapo,

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to his blatantly illegal attack on a sovereign nation, to his threats to invade colombia,

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cuba, mexico, and greenland. He has effectively declared himself an emperor after his invasion of venezuela saying,

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"american dominance in the western hemisphere will never be questioned again."

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in addition, his politization of the military was compared yesterday by

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army major general paul eaton to joseph stalin's purges of

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the top officers and soviet forces and said that we have

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"a 1940s stalin problem in the american military right now,

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as bad as venezuela's president was, but despite trump's lies,

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modoro has never posed a significant threat to the united states."

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trump, on the other hand, is doing everything in his power to become the second coming of adolf hitler.

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everyone who still supports trump second reich, everyone who remains silent about its crimes,

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and everyone who fails to do everything in their power to stop it is complicit in his villainy.

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I ask each and every one of you officially and/or personally to stand up for our democracy,

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the rule of law, and the constitution of the united states of america before it's too late.

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the point of no return is close at hand. Thank you.

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[applause] [noise]

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>> mr. Mayor mary rome also is here to speak for the call of public. >> that was a mislabeled.

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>>yes. I apologize. >>. No, apologies, necessary. I'm just check in to make sure.

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>> good evening. Two months ago,

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we gave you a tool to consider a proclamation from the town council to

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the management and training corporation and to

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the department of homeland security to say this community does not want a detention center at the former prison.

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you've got copies of this resolution. I'm going to see how much I can read.

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the well being of our community is our highest concern, and we have invested in building

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an engaging community for our community members in marana.

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it is our moral responsibility as a civil society and municipal government to protect the vulnerable.

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the religious leaders of the united states, have spoken out against the travesties of justice,

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lack of due process, cruel abductions and separations of family

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through purported immigration enforcement raids.

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detention centers have resulted and will result

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in increased activity by ice, border patrol,

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in which masked officers pull their guns upon suspected community members,

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creating an unacceptable level of fear, preventing people from attending church,

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school, jobs, grocery stores. The operation of detention centers across the united states have

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resulted in increased use of force against community members.

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tear gas, pepper balls, sound barriers, and crowd controls which have violated our first amendment rights.

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employees of the former mtc operated prisons were placed in dangerous situations.

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>> thank you, ma'am. I appreciate that. >> yes, please get this on the agenda.

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let us hear you debate it. Let us hear your considerations.

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thank you. [applause]

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>> a2. >> item a2, public hearing, ordinance number 2026 0.002, relating to development,

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approving a rezoning of approximately 300.5 acres of land located west of interstate ten along

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north lockett road and just south of the penal county line, in a portion of section 1 township 11 range 10 e

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from r-144 residential to sp specific plan, creating the lockett road north specific plan and

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approving a minor amendment to the general plan, amending the land use category from employment to master planned area.

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00:44:53,265 --> 00:44:53,265
resolution number 2026-005 relating to development,

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declaring is a public record filed with the town clerk, locket road north specific plan,

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adopted by ordinance number 2026 0.002. >> thank you very much [inaudible].

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we are now in public hearing. Mr. Rozema, would you please be so kind as to cover the ground rules of this?

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00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:16,440
>> mr. Mayor, vice mayor or members of council and to our entire audience,

421
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first of all, welcome to you, and thank you for joining us here for tonight's meeting.

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I do want to cover just a few ground rules because I don't know if you're aware of it or not,

423
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but sometimes these things get contentious, and that has certainly occurred in various jurisdictions across your country.

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00:45:35,610 --> 00:45:38,415
that's not something that's okay. We're going to have dialogue tonight.

425
00:45:40,815 --> 00:45:44,430
we're going to have discussion, and it just needs to be respectful. No biting, scratching, kicking, gouging,

426
00:45:47,325 --> 00:45:51,090
pulling hair, none of that's allowed, especially this guy right down here, man. [laughter] I could tell.

427
00:45:52,470 --> 00:45:54,720
[overlapping] he's a hair puller. I could tell. [laughter] yes.

428
00:45:57,450 --> 00:45:59,985
when somebody is up there speaking, please don't be talking,

429
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:03,690
no yelling from the crowd. Please make sure that you direct all of your comments to the council.

430
00:46:07,230 --> 00:46:09,315
please don't engage the crowd, no booing, things of that nature.

431
00:46:12,195 --> 00:46:12,195
just want to keep this very respectful dialogue and discussion.

432
00:46:17,295 --> 00:46:18,630
we greatly appreciate that. If it gets to a point where we think we need to step in and stop it, we'll do that.

433
00:46:23,175 --> 00:46:26,715
we'll ask you to calm down if you don't, get these awesome people in these uniforms back there that will

434
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happily escort you to a place where you can yell and scream all you want. Thank you, mr. Mayor.

435
00:46:38,010 --> 00:46:40,560
>> thank you. Mr. Angel. >> good evening, mayor post.

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vice mayor ziegler, council, happy new year.

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this evening, I have the pleasure to present to you ordinance number

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2026-002 and resolution number 2026-005,

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00:46:58,230 --> 00:46:58,230
which is a rezoning request for lockett road north data center specific plan.

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00:47:04,830 --> 00:47:08,340
the applicant for this is lazarus and silvan representing the church of latter day saints,

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who is the owner of the property. The request is for rezoning from r-144 to

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a specific plan for the specific purpose of developing a data center use.

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00:47:21,525 --> 00:47:25,275
this also requires a minor amendment to the 2040 general plan, which accompanies the application.

444
00:47:27,855 --> 00:47:30,600
the approximate size of this particular site is 300 acres and it is currently zoned r-144.

445
00:47:34,515 --> 00:47:34,515
the general plan has it designated as employment.

446
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there's two maps here on your screen. The one on the left is the general plan.

447
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everything that's shaded in purple there is the employment categories designated by the general plan.

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00:47:48,495 --> 00:47:52,290
you can see the subject property outlined in that black line there. On the right is the existing zoning designations.

449
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the existing property is r-144, but the current use of that is agricultural.

450
00:48:01,305 --> 00:48:03,825
this is active farmed property. To the east of it is vacant property,

451
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which has an e transportation zone, one of our old alphabet zones on that property,

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00:48:11,190 --> 00:48:14,820
and also to the east is the existing veteran cemetery. To the south is also r-144 zoning,

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but active farmland to the west is agricultural property to the southwest,

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and an existing solar field immediately to the west.

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then to the north is an existing active mine or quarry operation that is located in penal county.

456
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as I mentioned, this proposal is for a data center campus.

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as you are all well aware, we have adopted an ordinance that specifically

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requires any data center use to come through a rezoning process.

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that is outlined in section 17-6-13 of the marana town code.

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just to highlight a couple of those important areas within the code,

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we do require a baseline noise study, which has been included in the application.

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they also have to provide a letter from the power provider which indicates the intended source of the power and affirming from

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that power provider that there is sufficient and existing abilities to serve the site.

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assessment of the future energy needs,

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or the estimated annual water consumption.

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an intended source of water for the development and documentation from

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the water provided that says that they have sufficient water to be able to serve the site.

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the last thing is as part of the application, if the applicant is not able to meet or is requesting

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any waivers or variances from the requirements of the code,

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they are required to call that out. That is not the case here. The applicant has provided

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all the necessary information and is in compliance with the code requirements.

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to touch on a little bit about the site. The power provider for this particular site is trico electric.

473
00:50:07,710 --> 00:50:07,710
the proposal is for 550-750 megawatts,

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which is identified by trico. Water provider, marana water will provide office operations only.

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the water for that, as you may recall, in our code, we specifically state that maranas

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00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:27,600
potable water may not be used for any cooling systems within this facility.

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00:50:33,405 --> 00:50:36,180
actually this facility, I know we've said it a couple of times, but it's proposed as an air cooled facility,

478
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so it's not a water cooled facility. They also have water being provided or proposed to be

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provided by cortaro marana irrigation district or cmid.

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00:50:49,245 --> 00:50:52,095
they would be providing water for irrigation, industrial, and fire suppression purposes.

481
00:50:54,930 --> 00:50:54,930
this is in our marana wastewater service area.

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infrastructure. I'm going to take a little bit of time to walk through this one.

483
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as part of this, the proposal would be for an extension of currently,

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lockett road dead ends just outside of the entrance to the veterans cemetery. That'll be extended to the north up to where it'll connect to panel air park road.

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00:51:21,630 --> 00:51:24,750
the exact alignment is yet to be determined, but on this image here,

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you can generally see that black dash line that takes it up and connects to panel air park road.

487
00:51:32,955 --> 00:51:32,955
these are very high conceptual estimates right now,

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00:51:37,470 --> 00:51:37,470
but the estimated cost for that lockett road extension is approximately $20 million.

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that will be 100% the cost of the applicant to design and construct that facility.

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that will ultimately become a public road, which will be turned over to the town.

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it would be our long term maintenance responsibility.

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for water. They have an extension of potable water that is estimated to be about 3 miles in length.

493
00:52:09,630 --> 00:52:09,630
the water extension is estimated to be 15-$20 million,

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which also includes perhaps some boosters and some oversizing of that facility.

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00:52:20,610 --> 00:52:22,695
that is once again, 100% of the cost of the developer or

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the applicant to carry that cost to design and construct.

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00:52:29,370 --> 00:52:33,360
now, I do want to say, if they oversize that facility, which means there's additional capacity that could be passed on to

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00:52:36,720 --> 00:52:40,620
other developments that may be developed years down the road, and they connect into that.

499
00:52:42,165 --> 00:52:44,880
our town code does allow for that facility to be protected by the initial party that installs it,

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00:52:48,045 --> 00:52:48,045
therefore, they would be eligible for reimbursements of some of that oversizing cost.

501
00:52:52,935 --> 00:52:55,380
it is not a reimbursement from the town. It's a reimbursement from

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00:52:57,225 --> 00:52:57,225
the other developer that would be utilizing that additional capacity.

503
00:53:03,430 --> 00:53:05,960
>> wastewater, I'm sorry. Wastewater also has an extension of approximately two miles

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00:53:09,710 --> 00:53:09,710
for a force main and also a proposed lift station that would accompany that.

505
00:53:14,860 --> 00:53:14,860
excuse me. That estimated cost is roughly $15-20 million.

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00:53:22,865 --> 00:53:25,100
same thing applies here. That is 100% the cost of the applicant or the developer that would have to put that in.

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00:53:30,230 --> 00:53:32,870
if they choose to oversize that line, it too would also be eligible to be a protective facility,

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00:53:36,980 --> 00:53:36,980
which they could be reimbursed for that additional capacity as new developments come on.

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00:53:42,755 --> 00:53:42,755
once again, the town would not be reimbursing any of that cost.

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00:53:47,585 --> 00:53:47,585
lastly, there is a drainage facility,

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00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:54,650
a large drainage channel that's identified as part of the northwest drainage study that we did many years ago.

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00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:01,130
that is that green dash line that starts over on the frontage road near harden road, extends up,

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00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:08,000
comes all the way through, and then ultimately, continues to the west where it would eventually daylight into the santa cruz river.

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00:54:14,255 --> 00:54:17,300
as part of this project, well, the overall cost estimate for that channel is $66 million.

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00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:23,920
as part of the ordinance that's included in your packet,

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the applicant would be responsible for full development of a 30% design of the full channel.

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00:54:38,195 --> 00:54:40,475
that estimated cost is $2 million. We'll have a design of what the whole channel would look like.

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those plans will be turned over to the town. As development continues in this area,

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00:54:48,380 --> 00:54:51,185
and the need for that full channel develops, we would have the plans to ultimately be able to carry that out.

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00:54:54,605 --> 00:54:54,605
the applicant or the developer of this property would be responsible for constructing

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00:54:59,630 --> 00:54:59,630
their portion of the channel which falls within the boundaries of this subject property.

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00:55:05,885 --> 00:55:05,885
that is estimated at $20 million for that drainage construction.

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00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:12,560
I'm sorry, 15 to $20 million is the range that's provided there.

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00:55:17,135 --> 00:55:17,135
once again, they would be responsible for the construction and the full design of that.

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00:55:24,455 --> 00:55:24,455
the remainder of that $66 million would be

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either the responsibility of the town at a time and date in which they choose to move forward with the full construction of the channel,

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00:55:36,515 --> 00:55:39,860
or if other developments were to occur in this area, they would then pick up their fair share of that overall channel development.

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00:55:45,380 --> 00:55:45,380
all of this is covered and outlined in the conditions of this attached ordinance.

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00:55:52,460 --> 00:55:52,460
those are conditions 11, 12, 13, 14,

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00:55:57,500 --> 00:55:57,500
15 and 16, which clearly outlined the timing,

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00:56:02,240 --> 00:56:02,240
the responsibility, and who is responsible for that.

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00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:08,200
the next thing is a very conceptual design for the project,

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the white cross hatch, the large area in the center there, that is the develop bubble area for the project.

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then you have that gray box there, which is the approximate location for a transmission or

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a substation to be able to accept power and then ultimately distribute it to the project.

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00:56:35,765 --> 00:56:35,765
other areas that are identified as buffers and drainage areas that are shown here.

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for reference on the east side of this drawing is lockett road.

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00:56:48,070 --> 00:56:48,070
the plan commission did hold a public hearing on this back on december 10th.

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00:56:52,835 --> 00:56:55,535
after extensive public hearing, the plan commission voted 6-0 to recommend approval of the rezoning request,

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00:57:01,010 --> 00:57:01,010
subject to the conditions as outlined in the draft ordinance within your packet.

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00:57:05,945 --> 00:57:09,440
this is a discretionary item for the council. If the council chooses to approve this item,

542
00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:15,800
staff recommends it be based upon the recommended findings and subject to the conditions as set forth in the ordinance included in the agenda.

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00:57:20,090 --> 00:57:23,375
one thing I do want to point out, recent conversations that staff has had with the applicant has also led to

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00:57:28,370 --> 00:57:31,850
an additional condition that has been placed on your dias this evening in a hard copy format.

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00:57:36,120 --> 00:57:38,920
it's not included in the ordinance that is listed, but what I want to do is just take a moment,

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00:57:41,575 --> 00:57:44,320
if it's okay, mr. Mayor and read this through it, just because I understand you just received this language this evening.

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00:57:48,230 --> 00:57:50,150
that additional condition is, "if the data center use in the rezoning area is discontinued,

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00:57:54,645 --> 00:57:54,645
the property owners must cause all data center hardware and infrastructure

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to be removed from the buildings interior in compliance with all local,

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00:58:04,180 --> 00:58:06,505
state and federal regulations, and must establish and execute security protocols to

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00:58:10,870 --> 00:58:10,870
ensure the safety and upkeep of the property within the rezoning area,

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00:58:16,010 --> 00:58:16,010
including protocols in the event of the property becoming vacant."

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00:58:20,315 --> 00:58:22,325
with that, mr. Mayor, this does conclude my presentation.

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00:58:25,085 --> 00:58:25,085
I should say, if the council were willing to accept this additional condition,

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00:58:33,650 --> 00:58:33,650
we would ask that you make proper note of that in a suggested motion to

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00:58:38,870 --> 00:58:41,090
make sure that it's clearly added to the adopted or the ordinance that's included in your packet.

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00:58:44,825 --> 00:58:46,850
with that, mr. Mayor, this concludes my presentation,

558
00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:49,040
but keri silvyn with lazarus and silvyn.

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00:58:53,855 --> 00:58:57,260
I'm struggling with that one. Is here representing the applicant and does have a presentation that she would like to make as well.

560
00:59:01,010 --> 00:59:04,610
>> thank you, jason. Does council have any questions for staff? >> yes, mr. Mayor. Mr. Angel's.

561
00:59:07,580 --> 00:59:10,640
so we've just gotten this on the dias tonight, read through it, a couple of questions.

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00:59:13,715 --> 00:59:16,865
do we have this clause, and any other of our buildings that we have?

563
00:59:22,295 --> 00:59:25,190
I'll give you an example. How about the one up on, I think it was the old bashes.

564
00:59:27,905 --> 00:59:27,905
they left that, did we have something like this for them that they had to adhere to?

565
00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:38,435
>> mayor post, vice mayor ziegler, are you referring to the additional condition?

566
00:59:41,540 --> 00:59:44,450
>> yes, the list condition that we just looked at. >> to my knowledge, no. We do not have that condition on anybody else.

567
00:59:48,770 --> 00:59:48,770
>> does any of our walmart,

568
00:59:52,805 --> 00:59:52,805
anybody else have this condition that walmart's going to open a new one?

569
00:59:58,970 --> 01:00:02,660
the old walmart, do they have this condition, existing companies have this condition?

570
01:00:06,650 --> 01:00:09,440
>> mayor post, vice mayor ziegler, there are no other businesses that I'm aware of that have

571
01:00:12,485 --> 01:00:12,485
a condition that requires them to comply like this.

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01:00:16,805 --> 01:00:20,450
we do have, just so full council is aware, our solar facility ordinance and

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01:00:23,885 --> 01:00:23,885
solar and battery ordinance does have a decommissioning portion that applies for that.

574
01:00:30,470 --> 01:00:33,530
but as far as structures, buildings, businesses, I'm not aware of any that have it.

575
01:00:37,670 --> 01:00:37,670
>> okay. Lastly, this, if I remember,

576
01:00:42,095 --> 01:00:42,095
and I'll ask you, is not in our existing ordinance for daddy centers?

577
01:00:47,705 --> 01:00:50,180
>> that is correct. It is not in there. >> okay. Thank you very much.

578
01:00:52,490 --> 01:00:52,490
>> any other questions for staff? Thank you, jason.

579
01:00:57,395 --> 01:00:58,175
>> thank you. >> ms. Lazarus, would you like to make a presentation? It's your show.

580
01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:08,390
>> mayor, vice mayor, members of the council, keri silvyn with lazarus and silvyn.

581
01:01:11,105 --> 01:01:12,260
>> my apologies. >> it's okay. Lazarus was my name for the first half of my life.

582
01:01:16,085 --> 01:01:16,085
it's all good. My father will be very happy to know you called me keri lazarus.

583
01:01:22,850 --> 01:01:26,195
with your indulgence this evening, what I'd like to do is a single presentation for both.

584
01:01:29,105 --> 01:01:32,300
I know we have the luckett north. That's where we are right now. Your next item will be luckett south,

585
01:01:34,550 --> 01:01:36,440
but instead of doing this twice, I'm going to go ahead and consolidate the two,

586
01:01:38,930 --> 01:01:42,290
but obviously, available to answer any questions. I want to introduce a few people from our team who are here with us tonight,

587
01:01:45,965 --> 01:01:45,965
from my firm, jackson cassidy and rory juneman are here,

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01:01:50,015 --> 01:01:51,830
from the beale infrastructure team, we have arnaud dusser and nick torrance,

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01:01:54,560 --> 01:01:58,100
as well as michelle koch, from kimley horn, in case you ask any engineering-type questions.

590
01:02:01,175 --> 01:02:03,230
you certainly don't want me answering those. We have aaron harris with us as well.

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01:02:06,375 --> 01:02:06,375
also available are representatives from the utilities,

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01:02:10,420 --> 01:02:13,240
in case you have any questions: trico tep, and cortaro marana irrigation district.

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01:02:16,165 --> 01:02:16,165
what I'd like to do in this presentation is introduce beale and data centers generally,

594
01:02:22,595 --> 01:02:26,030
talk about why southern arizona and why the town of marana, and then step through how we're meeting your ordinance and what's being proposed tonight.

595
01:02:31,550 --> 01:02:31,550
staff and I do have some duplicating slides.

596
01:02:37,025 --> 01:02:37,025
I am going to go a little bit more quickly through the ones that we duplicate,

597
01:02:42,380 --> 01:02:45,020
but can certainly go back if there are any questions from our perspective on what those are.

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01:02:49,120 --> 01:02:51,575
beale infrastructure. Beale is a infrastructure partners with

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01:02:55,610 --> 01:02:58,730
the world's leading technology companies to develop data centers and infrastructure that support national economic growth.

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01:03:03,575 --> 01:03:06,440
it's well capitalized with a project team of industry veterans with deep experience in delivering infrastructure projects.

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01:03:11,540 --> 01:03:14,390
beale works closely with communities to understand local resource constraints and develop a responsible sustainable roadmap for growth.

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01:03:20,150 --> 01:03:23,090
beale was founded on the values and the commitments as it says on the slide to sustainability,

603
01:03:26,405 --> 01:03:29,535
community investment, and health and safety. What is a data center?

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01:03:31,435 --> 01:03:31,435
data center is really that physical backbone of the internet.

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01:03:35,530 --> 01:03:35,530
they drive our modern economy and have become essential to our daily lives.

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01:03:40,240 --> 01:03:41,920
every one of us: our children, grandchildren, friends, have cell phones.

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01:03:45,255 --> 01:03:45,255
anything that we do on those phones relative to social media or computers.

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01:03:50,990 --> 01:03:53,285
social media, online banking, access to our doctor or medical records,

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01:03:55,700 --> 01:03:57,650
checking online status of anything, buying tickets, those all touch data centers.

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01:04:01,460 --> 01:04:03,560
that is the physical backbone, and again, the physical infrastructure that allows those to operate.

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01:04:07,565 --> 01:04:11,090
data center support all of the region's major industries, enabling both day-to-day operations,

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01:04:13,445 --> 01:04:16,970
and long-term innovation in things like aerospace and defense, bio-science and healthcare, advanced manufacturing, financial services,

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01:04:21,725 --> 01:04:24,470
education, and research, tourism, and all levels of government.

614
01:04:27,665 --> 01:04:27,665
the buildings, how's the servers to make all of this work?

615
01:04:32,555 --> 01:04:32,555
if you think about the data that I just described, our medical records,

616
01:04:36,620 --> 01:04:36,620
our financial records that we put out there into these data centers,

617
01:04:41,690 --> 01:04:43,940
we need to be creating this infrastructure in the united states and not relying on foreign markets.

618
01:04:48,020 --> 01:04:50,225
as technology is advancing, and we're able to create data centers that balance

619
01:04:52,580 --> 01:04:55,250
more effectively the use of energy and water, markets like southern arizona begin to make sense.

620
01:04:58,580 --> 01:04:58,580
air cooled, access to energy and renewable resources are all part

621
01:05:03,050 --> 01:05:03,050
of what arizona has to offer in southern arizona in particular.

622
01:05:07,565 --> 01:05:10,130
why marana and southern arizona? Strategic location.

623
01:05:11,765 --> 01:05:15,620
first, we have a very low level of natural disasters, which is critically important to,

624
01:05:18,005 --> 01:05:20,945
again, that piece of critical infrastructure. For this proposal in particular,

625
01:05:23,540 --> 01:05:25,595
and we'll talk about this a little bit more. This area, this 300 acres plus the 300 acres to

626
01:05:30,200 --> 01:05:30,200
the south is surrounded by industrial to the north and to the west,

627
01:05:35,465 --> 01:05:38,195
the air park to the north as well. It's currently farmland.

628
01:05:40,280 --> 01:05:42,875
it's in the far northern marana area. It is planned based on

629
01:05:44,540 --> 01:05:44,540
your updated general plan for industrial and employment growth in the future.

630
01:05:50,300 --> 01:05:50,300
it is across the street from the veterans memorial cemetery.

631
01:05:54,500 --> 01:05:54,500
we have worked with the town to create that new access along luckett that you heard

632
01:05:59,390 --> 01:05:59,390
about from mr. Angel just a few minutes ago to make it easier,

633
01:06:04,130 --> 01:06:07,910
and we're being sensitive to that use as well, and we'll talk about that in a minute.

634
01:06:10,040 --> 01:06:11,900
strong workforce. We have a very strong construction workforce in southern arizona, and currently,

635
01:06:18,485 --> 01:06:20,120
a lot of those folks, both the construction trades and the local workforce have to travel outside of arizona,

636
01:06:25,940 --> 01:06:28,460
at least outside of southern arizona for work. We don't have as much construction as we've had in the past.

637
01:06:31,775 --> 01:06:35,300
what we're really excited about is that those construction workers, many of whom are here this evening,

638
01:06:37,190 --> 01:06:40,100
are not having to get up really early in the morning, drive up to phoenix on a project and drive

639
01:06:43,010 --> 01:06:46,700
back or even have to leave for long periods of times, weeks for projects that are possibly even outside of the state.

640
01:06:51,005 --> 01:06:53,030
we're really excited to be providing those construction jobs and we'll hear a little bit more about that.

641
01:06:56,645 --> 01:07:00,635
beale also has a commitment to workforce training locally. Our regional community college, pima community college,

642
01:07:04,265 --> 01:07:04,265
and others already have infrastructure in place for that training and are

643
01:07:08,300 --> 01:07:08,300
already talking to us about how we can increase that capacity and assist them.

644
01:07:13,010 --> 01:07:13,010
the dialogue has also started with the marana school district foundation,

645
01:07:17,480 --> 01:07:20,345
as well as the marana school district superintendent about those additional potential resources.

646
01:07:23,945 --> 01:07:27,890
this project is going to provide more technology jobs as well as construction jobs as it moves forward and really try to help keep our college graduates,

647
01:07:33,170 --> 01:07:36,620
which we hear a lot, especially those of us who have had children, keep them in our region rather than them having to leave for those types of jobs.

648
01:07:42,380 --> 01:07:44,840
last is power availability, it's close to planned extensions of infrastructure and fiber,

649
01:07:48,620 --> 01:07:51,665
which is critically important for the data centers. Again, we're working with both trico and tep as well on the two sites.

650
01:07:59,420 --> 01:07:59,420
this is just a map that gives you a little bit more of a sense of the regional context,

651
01:08:05,240 --> 01:08:08,405
the designated growth area and employment area. Mr. Angel already went over,

652
01:08:10,040 --> 01:08:12,845
which was that purple, and I'll show you that in just a minute. We're away from existing residential.

653
01:08:15,080 --> 01:08:15,080
the nearest resident is a mile away from either one of these two sites.

654
01:08:19,985 --> 01:08:21,950
as you go further north on the site, it's even more longer than a mile distance.

655
01:08:29,960 --> 01:08:33,065
we're near I-10 and the panel air park, both of which are significant noise creators,

656
01:08:36,890 --> 01:08:36,890
proximity to power, and we are not going to have impacts to sensitive habitat.

657
01:08:41,885 --> 01:08:41,885
this is retired farmland and no findings of cultural resources.

658
01:08:46,520 --> 01:08:49,880
this is a very busy map, and I apologize, but it gives you a sense of what I think we've already gone over,

659
01:08:52,790 --> 01:08:56,690
which is what's going on around. The north, you have industrial commercial. We have the veteran cemetery and some other commercial,

660
01:09:00,770 --> 01:09:04,160
the solar energy and the agriculture to the south. This is just one more picture.

661
01:09:05,960 --> 01:09:09,440
it's a current google earth that actually shows the solar panels, so you can see where luckett north and luckett south are, the industrial,

662
01:09:13,910 --> 01:09:17,330
the air park, I-10, the solar facilities, the farming, and you can see that there is no residential within a mile, and it's planned.

663
01:09:22,190 --> 01:09:22,190
this whole area is planned for employment in industrial uses.

664
01:09:26,495 --> 01:09:26,495
there's your purple area that you saw from mr. Angel's map.

665
01:09:32,540 --> 01:09:32,540
I want to talk really quickly about these two specific plans.

666
01:09:38,375 --> 01:09:40,970
you're seeing luckett north and luckett south. They're each 300 acres for a total potential of 600 acres.

667
01:09:45,140 --> 01:09:47,060
we are rezoning to specific plan, which is what your data center ordinance asks us to do.

668
01:09:51,380 --> 01:09:51,380
what's also in front of you is a minor amendment to your general plan.

669
01:09:55,805 --> 01:09:59,315
your general plan calls this out as employment. Whenever you rezone to a specific plan,

670
01:10:02,180 --> 01:10:05,480
you actually have a designation that's required, which is called master-planned area.

671
01:10:08,735 --> 01:10:08,735
we need to do a minor amendment to just track that this is going to be a specific plan.

672
01:10:13,805 --> 01:10:15,965
but the policies all relate. In other words, the specific plan to data center

673
01:10:18,770 --> 01:10:22,175
is in compliance with your employment designation. It's just a minor amendment to change the map colors.

674
01:10:26,015 --> 01:10:26,015
one other things I want to touch on here and I have one other slide,

675
01:10:30,335 --> 01:10:33,710
but it's important because it's a lot of the questions that have been asked is relative to the air-based cooling technology.

676
01:10:38,475 --> 01:10:40,930
>> as we've said before, bill has heard this community in the region loud and clear and wants

677
01:10:45,865 --> 01:10:45,865
an air-based cooling technology with no consumptive water for cooling.

678
01:10:51,550 --> 01:10:55,090
the data center ordinance that you adopted a year ago, and we thank you for doing that because you're ready for this project or

679
01:11:00,850 --> 01:11:04,510
a project requires cmid supply the non-potable for the minimal industrial irrigation and fire suppression.

680
01:11:08,875 --> 01:11:08,875
the water usage today on this 600 acres for farming is about 2000-acre feet per year.

681
01:11:16,780 --> 01:11:16,780
the need once this is up and operational is about 40 acre feet per year.

682
01:11:22,195 --> 01:11:25,990
that's not just coming from us. We've been working with cmid, and you can see it in some of the letters and it's in our application.

683
01:11:30,070 --> 01:11:30,070
it is our commitment to this project to do air-based cooling technology.

684
01:11:37,150 --> 01:11:37,150
this is a 98% reduction in water use for the 600 acres.

685
01:11:42,970 --> 01:11:46,765
the potable water use, again, will be, as mr. Angel said, is the town of marana,

686
01:11:48,490 --> 01:11:48,490
and that will be for office type uses, domestic type uses.

687
01:11:55,350 --> 01:11:58,375
as many of you have pointed out, your staff worked really hard and long on research to,

688
01:12:02,830 --> 01:12:05,770
I believe it's the first data center ordinance in arizona that was adopted over a year ago,

689
01:12:09,190 --> 01:12:09,190
acknowledging that this use may be coming in appropriate ways for this use to come in.

690
01:12:14,410 --> 01:12:17,860
>> carrie, have you asked for any variation in that ordinance? >> mayor, vice mayor, we have not.

691
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>> you're going to adhere to that as written? >> yes, sir. These are all of the pieces of the data center ordinance,

692
01:12:31,405 --> 01:12:32,950
and as you pointed out, you have an opportunity in your ordinance to request and justify changes.

693
01:12:37,870 --> 01:12:40,165
we are not requesting any changes at all. We are 100% complying with each of those boxes in your ordinance.

694
01:12:44,995 --> 01:12:48,305
I'm going to step through those as well. Permitted uses, the primary use is a data center,

695
01:12:52,200 --> 01:12:54,000
you can do ancillary uses. One of those ancillary uses is emergency only generators.

696
01:12:58,485 --> 01:12:58,485
I'm going to talk a little bit about that because that's caused

697
01:13:02,590 --> 01:13:02,590
a lot of questions and I want to try and answer some of those if I can.

698
01:13:07,225 --> 01:13:08,815
but obviously, if I don't, I can come back up after the public portion.

699
01:13:12,235 --> 01:13:15,190
these are only permitted for emergencies, and that would be a blackout situation where

700
01:13:17,470 --> 01:13:20,815
the utility provider cannot provide energy to the site. Per year ordinance, all of these generators must be tier 4 or newer for emissions,

701
01:13:27,490 --> 01:13:29,185
which is the highest standard. Tier 4 right now is the highest standard.

702
01:13:31,600 --> 01:13:33,970
the or newer is to, I believe, acknowledge that the status center ordinance is going to be in existence for a while,

703
01:13:37,900 --> 01:13:39,955
and so if there's a newer, then that has to be complied with.

704
01:13:42,610 --> 01:13:46,210
the number of generators is not determined at this time because the design is not yet ready.

705
01:13:49,870 --> 01:13:53,590
this is a question of the basic use being permitted. Then we start working on design and with the utilities and with the other regulators,

706
01:13:58,420 --> 01:14:02,005
state and federal regulators relative to emissions. We got to get the use going first, approved first,

707
01:14:05,350 --> 01:14:07,780
and then we will be in that stage, so we don't know how many generators.

708
01:14:10,105 --> 01:14:12,655
>> carrie, who regulates the generators? >> mayor and vice mayor,

709
01:14:14,680 --> 01:14:14,680
the generators, they have to comply with state and federal regulations.

710
01:14:20,695 --> 01:14:20,695
pdeq is the primary air emissions regulator.

711
01:14:24,775 --> 01:14:26,260
I have in my notebook, the list of all of the regulations and all of the agencies that are involved,

712
01:14:33,370 --> 01:14:35,294
if you'd like me to get that. >> no. >> okay. >> but they are regulated by an agency that inspects?

713
01:14:39,805 --> 01:14:41,890
>> mayor and vice mayor, they are heavily regulated,

714
01:14:44,020 --> 01:14:44,020
and the regulation is a combination of providing those regulators the actual data.

715
01:14:51,025 --> 01:14:54,985
the amount of the generators at the time that we're ready to do that, they double check that.

716
01:14:59,635 --> 01:14:59,635
I think we have to actually give the numbers of the actual generators that are on site,

717
01:15:05,770 --> 01:15:09,580
those get inspected, and then there's ongoing monitoring. That is the extent of my understanding,

718
01:15:12,340 --> 01:15:15,010
so if you have follow-up questions on that, I can [overlapping] members. >> well, that answered it quite well. Thank you.

719
01:15:19,230 --> 01:15:22,720
>> that your data center ordinance requires, and we put it in the specific plan that these can only be

720
01:15:25,600 --> 01:15:29,080
tested weekdays between 8:00 am, and 5:00 pm. They are each required to be tested.

721
01:15:31,420 --> 01:15:35,365
it's called a no load test, only once per month, as opposed to weekly,

722
01:15:37,000 --> 01:15:40,270
which I think there's some things out there talking about weekly, and it's once per month,

723
01:15:41,575 --> 01:15:44,365
only about 15-30 minutes each. They are not all tested at the same time,

724
01:15:46,780 --> 01:15:49,990
and again, it's a no load testing, and we will comply with all federal and state air quality requirements because we have to, and we will.

725
01:15:55,000 --> 01:15:55,000
any calculations or estimates presented or created related to

726
01:15:59,320 --> 01:16:03,265
these backup generation needs or any of those emissions, really when it relates to this site are premature and not accurate.

727
01:16:07,435 --> 01:16:10,090
we don't have that information yet, and again, it's going to come at a later date with the appropriate regulators.

728
01:16:13,750 --> 01:16:16,135
however, I do want to point out again, that all of your data center ordinance requirements

729
01:16:20,710 --> 01:16:20,710
for generators are in our specific plan and will be complied with,

730
01:16:25,450 --> 01:16:28,330
so we are complying with those. Our building design, we do not have our building designed yet.

731
01:16:33,640 --> 01:16:37,465
you have a number of requirements, everybody's favorite word fenestration.

732
01:16:40,555 --> 01:16:44,470
there are requirements for variations and facades, masking requirements, neutral color palettes.

733
01:16:47,620 --> 01:16:49,780
we will be complying with those, those are in our specific plan.

734
01:16:51,685 --> 01:16:54,250
they're required wherever the buildings can be seen from public rights of way and the edges.

735
01:16:57,055 --> 01:17:00,745
these are just examples. Again, our buildings are not designed. These are examples of other buildings that have included

736
01:17:03,760 --> 01:17:03,760
the types of design elements that are listed in your ordinance.

737
01:17:08,140 --> 01:17:12,100
I'm not representing that these are what the building is going to look like. It's not designed. Again,

738
01:17:13,360 --> 01:17:17,050
they're representative of those architectural elements. I am not going to read you this slide in the data center ordinance and our specific plan.

739
01:17:22,375 --> 01:17:25,885
these are the setback and the buffers and screening requirements. We will comply with those.

740
01:17:27,430 --> 01:17:31,030
they are reiterated in our specific plan. I want to touch on noise for a minute.

741
01:17:33,010 --> 01:17:34,990
I know this is a really busy slide, but this was brought up a lot at the planning commission.

742
01:17:38,380 --> 01:17:38,380
you have very stringent requirements relative to noise.

743
01:17:42,880 --> 01:17:45,220
I realize that the data center ordinance was adopted because it applies all over the town.

744
01:17:47,860 --> 01:17:49,300
as I mentioned before, this is an area where we don't have residential,

745
01:17:52,300 --> 01:17:52,300
which are considered the sensitive noise receptors that are related to data centers.

746
01:17:58,465 --> 01:18:01,390
that being said, we are not only complying, but we're actually doing a better job based on our modeling.

747
01:18:04,525 --> 01:18:07,795
your data center ordinance requires that we model beforehand and then we true it up at the end.

748
01:18:11,065 --> 01:18:11,065
once we're operational, because we had to make some assumptions about design to model it.

749
01:18:16,705 --> 01:18:19,840
we did model it, and I'll show you that in just a minute. But as soon as we're up and operational,

750
01:18:22,330 --> 01:18:24,880
we have to go out there and demonstrate with a noise analyst and a noise meter that we are meeting your requirements.

751
01:18:28,960 --> 01:18:32,290
one of the things we talk about dba decibel levels. Nobody really understands what that means.

752
01:18:34,285 --> 01:18:37,300
what we tried to do along the top was give you an explanation of what those decibel levels mean.

753
01:18:41,305 --> 01:18:41,305
you can see the most stringent is somewhere between 55-60,

754
01:18:46,540 --> 01:18:48,400
and that is really between the average home noise and

755
01:18:51,790 --> 01:18:51,790
a normal conversation or maybe a little bit of background music.

756
01:18:56,020 --> 01:18:57,835
sometimes when you're working, I will not say it's what my teenage kids

757
01:19:00,550 --> 01:19:03,295
used to call background music in their bedrooms, it's what I would call background music while I'm working.

758
01:19:06,775 --> 01:19:10,690
those are the requirements at the property line. Our sensitive noise receptor is really the memorial cemetery,

759
01:19:15,910 --> 01:19:17,530
and we heard a lot about that. We are required to be at that lower 55 dba at the property line.

760
01:19:23,695 --> 01:19:25,165
that's a conversation, I would say it's not even what I'm saying in a microphone,

761
01:19:28,165 --> 01:19:30,610
a conversation between two people. Then you have landscaping,

762
01:19:32,320 --> 01:19:33,520
you have the roadway, you have more landscaping on the memorial side and then a setback.

763
01:19:37,615 --> 01:19:37,615
what we've discovered in doing our baseline noise study is at any given time,

764
01:19:42,820 --> 01:19:44,440
the traffic on I-10, the planes from panel air park are all going to be

765
01:19:47,815 --> 01:19:47,815
louder than even what's going on at our property line.

766
01:19:52,450 --> 01:19:56,200
what we want to show you is that we did our noise, the required modeling for luckett north.

767
01:19:58,885 --> 01:19:58,885
I'm going to show you luckett south in a minute.

768
01:20:03,590 --> 01:20:03,590
you will see that on the far right is the modeling,

769
01:20:09,310 --> 01:20:13,135
which is significantly lower than what the town requires. We will exceed what the town requires at a minimum,

770
01:20:16,960 --> 01:20:16,960
we will meet it, and we will true this up once we have the project up and operational.

771
01:20:21,955 --> 01:20:24,715
this is north and you'll see the same thing for luckett south, and I can come back to this.

772
01:20:28,570 --> 01:20:30,145
>> miss sullivan? >> yes. >> if I remember in the ordinance and just to bring it forward

773
01:20:34,270 --> 01:20:34,270
is we will have the opportunity to pick the third party, correct?

774
01:20:39,115 --> 01:20:39,115
that will come in and check this for us to make

775
01:20:43,270 --> 01:20:43,270
sure that these noise levels are what's required and pursuant to the ordinance, correct?

776
01:20:49,375 --> 01:20:51,055
>> mayor, vice mayor, I actually don't have that portion of the ordinance memorized,

777
01:20:53,935 --> 01:20:53,935
but I know we intend to work with the town on that consultant,

778
01:21:00,510 --> 01:21:03,395
so I'll say yes. >> I have a little bit of that memorized.

779
01:21:05,760 --> 01:21:06,180
>> yes. >> because noise, it's not that tangible.

780
01:21:11,580 --> 01:21:15,280
>> mayor and vice mayor, I would say it is measurable from instruments that you can measure it with.

781
01:21:18,790 --> 01:21:18,790
there's no fudge factor on measuring noise with those things, so yes.

782
01:21:25,855 --> 01:21:29,305
>> thank you. >> mr. Mayor and vice mayor ziegler. The studies must be performed by a qualified third party acoustic engineer,

783
01:21:34,210 --> 01:21:38,140
so the town would have to determine that they are qualified. >> yes, and we pick that third party, we as a town,

784
01:21:41,980 --> 01:21:45,670
or is it in conjunction with the [inaudible]? >> mayor post, vice mayor ziegler.

785
01:21:47,695 --> 01:21:47,695
we would not pick the third party acoustic engineer,

786
01:21:52,780 --> 01:21:54,490
but we would have to determine, we would look at their cv,

787
01:21:56,980 --> 01:21:58,930
their resume, make sure that they're qualified, that we're going to accept their results.

788
01:22:01,045 --> 01:22:03,790
>> who chooses that third party? >> vice mayor, that would be chosen by the developer of the data center.

789
01:22:08,305 --> 01:22:09,835
>> thank you. >> I would just add, mayor, vice mayor,

790
01:22:13,510 --> 01:22:13,510
we would be presenting those credentials to the town before we do it to make

791
01:22:20,080 --> 01:22:20,080
sure that that person is appropriately credentialed and get your okay on that as well.

792
01:22:26,905 --> 01:22:29,500
to be clear, there aren't that many noise acoustical engineers in the state in this area of the region,

793
01:22:37,600 --> 01:22:39,880
so it's a small number of folks who have that degree and are able to provide that information.

794
01:22:44,910 --> 01:22:44,910
>> I'm sorry. Ms. Farrell,

795
01:22:49,600 --> 01:22:49,600
I thought and I guess my mind is I thought it was a decision

796
01:22:54,190 --> 01:22:54,190
by the town of marana to pick the third party,

797
01:22:58,885 --> 01:23:01,465
and so that's my error. I thought the third party was somebody we chose or chose together,

798
01:23:07,900 --> 01:23:11,425
let's say, mutually agreed with the third party. But it sounds like I'm in error.

799
01:23:13,795 --> 01:23:13,795
>> vice mayor roxanne ziegler, I'll just read exactly what this section of it says.

800
01:23:19,195 --> 01:23:20,020
>> thank you. >> the data center operator must conduct a post construction noise study performed by

801
01:23:25,390 --> 01:23:29,005
a qualified third party acoustic engineer to document sound levels emanating from the data center after the construction is done.

802
01:23:34,540 --> 01:23:34,540
it would be at the developer's cost that they have to conduct this,

803
01:23:40,345 --> 01:23:43,270
and they would have to convince the town that it is a qualified third party acoustic engineer.

804
01:23:46,915 --> 01:23:48,280
I guess in that sense, we do have the ability to veto the choice that they've picked,

805
01:23:54,895 --> 01:23:54,895
but those are the words that are in the ordinance, what I read there.

806
01:23:59,620 --> 01:24:00,655
>> thank you, jane. >> carrie, how does the ordinance handle the pitch,

807
01:24:03,955 --> 01:24:07,855
the noise pitch? Or does it? >> mr. Mayor, no. The charts that miss sullivan had up,

808
01:24:14,095 --> 01:24:16,540
that is what the ordinance addresses. Is the decibel levels maximum allowed decibel levels during

809
01:24:21,940 --> 01:24:25,450
daytime hours and during nighttime hours depending upon the zoning of the affected property.

810
01:24:29,065 --> 01:24:29,065
>> would that pick up a particular machinery pitch of noise?

811
01:24:34,420 --> 01:24:36,790
>> mr. Mayor, obviously, I'm not a third party acoustic engineer.

812
01:24:39,670 --> 01:24:41,680
>> oh, you're a lawyer. [laughter] >> but what it will be looking at is strictly a decibel level.

813
01:24:47,880 --> 01:24:47,880
>> last thing I want is a phone call from my mother saying that she cannot sleep.

814
01:24:54,040 --> 01:24:55,900
>> mayor, understood. >> yeah.

815
01:24:58,530 --> 01:25:02,320
>> this slide is one of them that I think that mr. Angel has done a great job of going through.

816
01:25:05,350 --> 01:25:07,240
these are the infrastructure commitments. They're all codified in the ordinance conditions in

817
01:25:09,760 --> 01:25:12,805
both ordinances for luckett north and luckett south. These are commitments that bill is making to extension of infrastructure.

818
01:25:17,710 --> 01:25:17,710
I mentioned before that this area is designated for future employment and industrial use.

819
01:25:23,245 --> 01:25:23,245
what has not happened yet is an extension of a lot of this infrastructure to open

820
01:25:28,000 --> 01:25:28,000
this area up for that future use as designated in your general plan.

821
01:25:33,160 --> 01:25:33,160
this begins that process with a developer coming in and paying,

822
01:25:38,425 --> 01:25:38,425
as mr. Angel pointed out for these pieces of infrastructure.

823
01:25:43,495 --> 01:25:47,185
we can come back to this if we need to, but I don't need to dwell on that. I want to touch on the economic impact and this is

824
01:25:49,960 --> 01:25:52,780
something that we probably have not done as good a job as we should have in making

825
01:25:55,465 --> 01:25:58,990
sure it's out there as positives for the community. This was done by an independent third party,

826
01:26:02,080 --> 01:26:04,705
it's an independent third party analysis. A couple of things that you need to know is that these numbers already incorporate

827
01:26:10,015 --> 01:26:10,015
the reductions for state level incentives that are available for data centers.

828
01:26:15,970 --> 01:26:18,160
this includes those. These are the final numbers after those are deducted.

829
01:26:21,385 --> 01:26:23,485
the other is that you have a marana job creation incentive program that I think was adopted in 2013,

830
01:26:30,130 --> 01:26:32,530
or ms. Farrell can correct me if I'm wrong, and that specifically does not permit

831
01:26:36,085 --> 01:26:36,085
data centers to avail themselves of any economic incentives for the town of marana.

832
01:26:41,515 --> 01:26:44,605
we are not availing ourselves because we can't as to any of your local economic incentive opportunities.

833
01:26:48,925 --> 01:26:51,400
these numbers, therefore, don't deduct anything for the town of marana because we don't get to.

834
01:26:55,255 --> 01:26:55,255
this third party economic analysis was based on the first phase of this project,

835
01:27:01,870 --> 01:27:04,900
which is less than the full 600 acres. What it tells you is obvious,

836
01:27:08,080 --> 01:27:08,080
but the capital investment is $5 billion over a multi-year construction period.

837
01:27:14,665 --> 01:27:18,355
what we did was broke out the amount of tax revenue for the first 10 years that would come to the town of marana,

838
01:27:23,515 --> 01:27:25,960
which is 145 million. The footnote, which it's always fun to read a footnote on a powerpoint presentation.

839
01:27:30,520 --> 01:27:30,520
but what the footnote tells you is that the total taxes for state,

840
01:27:36,220 --> 01:27:36,220
county, and town over that 10 years is actually 407 million.

841
01:27:42,055 --> 01:27:42,055
that does include some of the school stuff,

842
01:27:46,690 --> 01:27:50,020
which we can talk about. >> can you go over that just real quick, real brief? Do you remember that?

843
01:27:53,700 --> 01:27:53,700
>> let's talk about the fire, too.

844
01:27:59,210 --> 01:28:02,220
>> mayor, vice mayor, and members of the council.

845
01:28:03,360 --> 01:28:03,360
that's my way of stalling to get to the right page.

846
01:28:14,370 --> 01:28:14,370
this independent third party analysis includes that estimate for both fire and school.

847
01:28:21,700 --> 01:28:23,485
I'm going to do fire first. For the first phase and first 10 years,

848
01:28:26,200 --> 01:28:26,200
it's anticipated to have an additional revenue to the fire district of over $15 million.

849
01:28:33,970 --> 01:28:36,380
you're probably aware of this, but annexation into the northwest fire district is the intended fire district.

850
01:28:43,490 --> 01:28:43,490
the question of how much revenue is anticipated for the school district,

851
01:28:47,720 --> 01:28:51,435
again, it's first phase first 10 years. It's estimated to generate over $25 million to the school district.

852
01:28:57,535 --> 01:28:57,535
roughly 15.5 million will go towards the state's primary qualifying tax rate,

853
01:29:04,185 --> 01:29:04,185
what's called a qtr, as the project adds billions in local assessment.

854
01:29:08,930 --> 01:29:08,930
that's how the school handles and is able to increase tax revenues.

855
01:29:16,520 --> 01:29:16,520
the direct local benefit also includes overrides and bonds,

856
01:29:22,310 --> 01:29:24,230
and that's another 10.4. Those two together gets you to the 25 million.

857
01:29:27,650 --> 01:29:27,650
the bonds and overrides are generated via secondary taxes,

858
01:29:32,600 --> 01:29:36,290
overrides like prop 411 and the bonds. This money stays 100% within the marana school district.

859
01:29:41,730 --> 01:29:43,630
if you have any follow up questions, you might have to ask the school superintendent or.

860
01:29:46,390 --> 01:29:48,280
I do, but I think you can answer this. You talked earlier about doing some things for the foundation,

861
01:29:53,795 --> 01:29:57,635
and that doesn't include those numbers, is that correct? Mayor and vice mayor,

862
01:29:59,240 --> 01:30:01,175
members of the council, that is correct. Those are the numbers that are generated from this economic analysis that

863
01:30:06,110 --> 01:30:06,110
are based on things that will come directly to marana school district,

864
01:30:11,240 --> 01:30:14,345
based on state formulas and overrides. In addition to that,

865
01:30:15,710 --> 01:30:18,800
we are working with the marana school district foundation, and those conversations have started.

866
01:30:20,930 --> 01:30:24,860
yes. The last three columns on here, I want to touch on over almost $1 million estimated in impact fees.

867
01:30:30,245 --> 01:30:34,220
those are one time fees as the construction occurs. The estimate also includes 4,200 construction

868
01:30:38,495 --> 01:30:38,495
jobs over the life of the project for phase 1,

869
01:30:44,060 --> 01:30:44,060
which is probably we estimate 2026 to 2030.

870
01:30:48,500 --> 01:30:48,500
then permanent jobs, and I want to highlight this is 400 permanent jobs.

871
01:30:53,960 --> 01:30:56,450
these are positions that are onsite. They include engineers, technicians, operations, and security.

872
01:31:00,365 --> 01:31:03,980
about half of these jobs will be professional engineering jobs, the other half or security and other jobs associated with the site.

873
01:31:07,640 --> 01:31:09,650
there was some discussion in some of the next door and other places that these are jobs that come in and then go away.

874
01:31:16,085 --> 01:31:18,560
these are the jobs that are required to sustain the first phase of the data center project.

875
01:31:22,145 --> 01:31:25,655
also talked about jobs that were outsourced, like they didn't live here in the community.

876
01:31:27,500 --> 01:31:30,140
is that you intend for these to be on site jobs? Mayor post and vice mayor eagle are members of the council,

877
01:31:33,470 --> 01:31:36,170
these are intended to be on site jobs. There may be other jobs like that,

878
01:31:39,200 --> 01:31:42,515
but these 400 are the on site jobs. Mr. Mayor?

879
01:31:43,955 --> 01:31:45,035
yes. Miss so. Again, on the construction jobs, 4200/10 years.

880
01:31:54,545 --> 01:31:54,545
the submit is from 20 for fate remember this phase 1.

881
01:31:59,240 --> 01:31:59,240
we were estimating in this economic analysis that phase one would be about 2026 to 2030,

882
01:32:06,155 --> 01:32:08,270
there will then be a second phase. This is phase 1? Yes. So that's phase one.

883
01:32:11,330 --> 01:32:14,240
so eight years, 8,400 jobs, is that what we're.

884
01:32:16,715 --> 01:32:16,715
vice mayor ziegler, the phase one may be

885
01:32:20,840 --> 01:32:20,840
more than half and that's why we didn't want to suggest doubling.

886
01:32:25,460 --> 01:32:27,050
there is another phase coming. We haven't identified yet exactly how much of the 600 acres is

887
01:32:31,820 --> 01:32:31,820
phase 1 to be able to suggest a straight doubling,

888
01:32:36,980 --> 01:32:39,170
but it's definitely not the whole site. The 400 jobs phase 1 or.

889
01:32:42,695 --> 01:32:45,695
phase 1. All of these numbers are phase 1. Each is less than the full six hundreds.

890
01:32:47,735 --> 01:32:47,735
I know some people were saying that these jobs wouldn't help our community.

891
01:32:55,300 --> 01:32:58,510
I just want to make that clear that there will be at times skill sets that we need that we may not have here locally.

892
01:33:05,390 --> 01:33:05,390
those folks [overlapping] we'd have to go out and get somebody from outside of marana,

893
01:33:15,410 --> 01:33:17,525
that meets the skill sets for data center. But mostly they would be here in marana or local communities, sarita or tucson.

894
01:33:27,145 --> 01:33:27,145
but again, we just want to point out that we're trying to get jobs in this town.

895
01:33:35,450 --> 01:33:39,410
our citizens have asked for it over the years, in our general plan. It's everywhere, and we're getting bigger,

896
01:33:41,885 --> 01:33:41,885
and we need to supply and make sure that we have jobs for them and future generations.

897
01:33:48,830 --> 01:33:51,080
mayor, vice mayor, members of the council, I would also point out that's part of the commitment from beal as well if we identify

898
01:33:55,790 --> 01:33:58,490
work needs in the data center for which we don't have the employment base in southern arizona.

899
01:34:01,430 --> 01:34:04,085
that's exactly what pima community college is for. Then stepping back even before community college and

900
01:34:07,580 --> 01:34:11,030
workforce training is the local school district. Those are the kinds of conversations where we can

901
01:34:13,610 --> 01:34:16,985
identify the kinds of training that's needed into the mayor's point, see what we can do to train up our local workforce,

902
01:34:20,030 --> 01:34:23,350
and that is a commitment of bl. Thank you. Touch on power.

903
01:34:28,340 --> 01:34:28,340
for a minute, there have been a lot of questions and people providing calculations

904
01:34:32,570 --> 01:34:32,570
relative to power and energy use that are not necessarily based on this project,

905
01:34:37,430 --> 01:34:37,430
and proposal or the requirements for power energy approvals in arizona.

906
01:34:42,515 --> 01:34:45,890
I think all of you know power is actually regulated, not at the local level,

907
01:34:47,420 --> 01:34:50,645
it's regulated by the arizona corporation commission. What the town's ordinance requires,

908
01:34:53,030 --> 01:34:53,030
which is what we're before you tonight to demonstrate we have met,

909
01:34:57,545 --> 01:34:59,900
which is to provide you the information. We have the letters from the utilities,

910
01:35:02,585 --> 01:35:06,395
and we have checked that box essentially. The next step after this is to design the site and to work with

911
01:35:11,510 --> 01:35:11,510
trico and tep respectively, and respectfully.

912
01:35:17,650 --> 01:35:17,650
that will whatever energy services agreements we negotiate and work

913
01:35:24,650 --> 01:35:27,860
through have a very public approval process through the arizona corporation commission that we will be going through.

914
01:35:31,580 --> 01:35:33,320
again, the next phase. Many of the questions that are being posed of you relate to

915
01:35:36,290 --> 01:35:40,265
that next stage of the process and they will be answered at that time. What we know is that we are in conformance with your ordinance.

916
01:35:44,675 --> 01:35:44,675
our estimates are 550-750 megawatts per site.

917
01:35:49,070 --> 01:35:50,870
north is served by trico, south is served by tep.

918
01:35:53,375 --> 01:35:57,185
this is a estimated buildout. Again, we haven't designed. It could be less than this,

919
01:35:59,330 --> 01:35:59,330
and the ramp up starts at about 10- 20% of whatever our

920
01:36:04,910 --> 01:36:04,910
agreed upon amount is with our electric providers and then we'll ramp up over 2-3 years.

921
01:36:10,805 --> 01:36:13,850
I want to touch on another issue that has come up, which is the question about increased rates because of data centers.

922
01:36:20,210 --> 01:36:23,360
the utilities and the data centers have really learned a lot from fortunately on other people's backs.

923
01:36:26,795 --> 01:36:26,795
other jurisdictions as well as even some of the jurisdictions up in the phoenix area.

924
01:36:32,795 --> 01:36:32,795
the goal has been and teps and trico have both said,

925
01:36:37,790 --> 01:36:41,120
we are not doing this unless we know we can avoid what are called ratepayer stranded costs.

926
01:36:44,675 --> 01:36:48,425
those are costs that ultimately get put back on the ratepayers. The current best practices in order to avoid what has gone on in

927
01:36:53,060 --> 01:36:56,015
other jurisdictions and is being deployed in southern arizona through both of these utilities,

928
01:36:59,930 --> 01:36:59,930
is that bl be required to pay for all of

929
01:37:04,070 --> 01:37:04,070
the infrastructure for these data centers with strong financial guarantees,

930
01:37:10,835 --> 01:37:14,750
and that's where some people missed the boat. Things like letters of credit, bonds so that when you enter into these agreements,

931
01:37:18,080 --> 01:37:18,080
which is why they come next because we need to have the basic use permitted.

932
01:37:22,985 --> 01:37:22,985
b will be putting up the financial incentives, I'm sorry,

933
01:37:27,290 --> 01:37:27,290
the financial guarantees in order to make sure that they actually build

934
01:37:31,910 --> 01:37:31,910
the infrastructure as it proceeds through the project.

935
01:37:39,910 --> 01:37:39,910
those are bonds, lines of credit, all of that.

936
01:37:44,330 --> 01:37:44,330
the second is that there is a required minimum rate with

937
01:37:49,100 --> 01:37:52,670
no economic incentives that data centers will have to pay starting when the energy is available.

938
01:37:56,910 --> 01:37:59,710
there's some other jurisdictions. There have been instances where these agreements

939
01:38:02,860 --> 01:38:06,010
have been made and then the data center doesn't actually operate, but the infrastructure has been built by the utility.

940
01:38:08,830 --> 01:38:11,380
these are the kinds of things that avoid that so that it doesn't fall back on the rate payers.

941
01:38:14,050 --> 01:38:16,150
the other thing and again, t ep and trico are both here, data centers,

942
01:38:19,090 --> 01:38:19,090
when it comes to future and the ongoing rates in the use of power,

943
01:38:25,520 --> 01:38:29,270
data centers are consistent and reliable users of energy, which means that the utilities fixed costs,

944
01:38:32,330 --> 01:38:33,890
which is the infrastructure, and then future infrastructure end up being spread over a larger amount of energy sales,

945
01:38:39,650 --> 01:38:39,650
which can actually reduce the cost of electricity for rate payers in the future.

946
01:38:44,150 --> 01:38:44,150
you heard at the planning commission from trico that with this added user,

947
01:38:50,510 --> 01:38:53,105
there's a potential where future rate increases could actually be pushed out for local marana residents,

948
01:38:58,145 --> 01:38:58,145
that will allow a lot more of

949
01:39:02,600 --> 01:39:02,600
the rates to be spread out for a longer period of time prior to a rate increase.

950
01:39:08,765 --> 01:39:12,020
fortunately, trico is here so he can explain that better than I just did because I'm not sure I did a very good job of that.

951
01:39:15,665 --> 01:39:18,440
let me I was going to move to water. Yes. But I wanted to ask a question about the jobs,

952
01:39:25,250 --> 01:39:25,250
particularly the construction jobs.

953
01:39:29,285 --> 01:39:29,285
are we intending to hire those from our community?

954
01:39:33,935 --> 01:39:36,935
I mean, are you going to go with a contractor out of state? Were they then bring them in?

955
01:39:38,465 --> 01:39:41,630
how I mean, union jobs, non union? What if we don't have enough of either one? How does that going to work?

956
01:39:45,140 --> 01:39:47,585
mayor, vice mayor, members of the council, all of that [laughter].

957
01:39:50,180 --> 01:39:50,180
the goal is to really focus on local workforce and all that that means,

958
01:39:56,750 --> 01:40:00,020
including we have some union labor as well and we intend to employ what we need to build the project.

959
01:40:04,625 --> 01:40:06,320
we want to keep it local. That's part of the partnering with pima community college.

960
01:40:09,185 --> 01:40:09,185
they do a lot of the construction workforce training in the various trades.

961
01:40:16,025 --> 01:40:19,970
the unions do some of that training as well, and we're talking with them.

962
01:40:22,010 --> 01:40:25,475
the goal is to keep it local as much as possible. There may be some things,

963
01:40:27,080 --> 01:40:28,730
as vice mayor pointed out, that might require some expertise that we don't have here.

964
01:40:32,090 --> 01:40:35,585
while we're trying to build that, we may need to bring it in. It will be all of that,

965
01:40:37,220 --> 01:40:40,910
but with truly a goal of sharing up our local workforce, and again, keeping our people here.

966
01:40:44,590 --> 01:40:47,405
you're moving on to water, but we'll get an opportunity to have the representatives from the power companies,

967
01:40:53,945 --> 01:40:55,805
I'm assuming after you're done. Mayor vice mayor, whatever your pleasure. I can finish my.

968
01:40:59,870 --> 01:40:59,870
go ahead and finish and then I pick brian first,

969
01:41:04,430 --> 01:41:04,430
so get ready [laughter].

970
01:41:09,860 --> 01:41:11,840
water, I've already touched on this, but I want to say it again because it's a lot of what's out there in the universe.

971
01:41:16,040 --> 01:41:18,080
this is an air cool technology, a closed loop system that will consume no water for industrial cooling.

972
01:41:22,130 --> 01:41:25,490
it's actually a 98% reduction in what the water that's actually used on the full 600 acres now.

973
01:41:29,030 --> 01:41:29,030
we've already talked about the fact that potable water is marana water and

974
01:41:33,080 --> 01:41:36,905
the non potable is the cortaro marana irrigation district. If you have questions about that, we can come back.

975
01:41:39,320 --> 01:41:41,930
this is the same slide you saw before. We are in compliance with your ordinance,

976
01:41:44,090 --> 01:41:46,190
the noise attenuation we talked about, building design standards, water consumption and source,

977
01:41:49,760 --> 01:41:52,340
the energy needs, we meet your ordinance. Lighting, I forgot to talk about.

978
01:41:54,110 --> 01:41:55,685
you have an outdoor lighting code. It's required in the data center ordinance that we comply with it.

979
01:41:59,045 --> 01:42:02,405
we put in our specific plan that we will be complying with it. Lighting, we will comply with outdoor lighting,

980
01:42:05,030 --> 01:42:07,070
all of the site development standards, setbacks, buffer yards, the generators we talked about,

981
01:42:10,370 --> 01:42:12,365
and then landscaping and screening. We meet and have not requested any modifications of your data center ordinance.

982
01:42:17,855 --> 01:42:17,855
carrie, I've had a few e mails that

983
01:42:22,835 --> 01:42:22,835
ask about if you're unable to water cool or I'm sorry,

984
01:42:29,045 --> 01:42:32,075
air cool this facility, would you switch to water?

985
01:42:36,040 --> 01:42:39,665
mayor, vice mayor, members of the council, our commitment in the specific plan is to

986
01:42:42,410 --> 01:42:42,410
an air cooled system and all of our data that we've given you is air cooled.

987
01:42:47,165 --> 01:42:47,165
if we were to somehow suggest that we're going to switch to a water cooled,

988
01:42:52,010 --> 01:42:55,550
we're going to have to come back before you with a specific plan amendment. Do you would have to do this all over again?

989
01:42:58,265 --> 01:43:01,265
yes. I would suggest we're not pro. I'm not a big fan of that.

990
01:43:04,150 --> 01:43:07,115
yes. Could that answer your question? Yeah, I did. Thank you.

991
01:43:09,700 --> 01:43:13,340
last, because this is a state level requirement, and I want to make sure we touch on it.

992
01:43:14,810 --> 01:43:15,950
it's in the staff report. We are required to have a neighborhood meeting with our most adjacent neighbors.

993
01:43:19,370 --> 01:43:21,515
this is not a required community meeting. It's a required neighborhood meeting because we need to make sure you all want to

994
01:43:26,630 --> 01:43:28,820
make sure and the state wants to make sure that we are talking to all of our adjacent neighbors.

995
01:43:31,610 --> 01:43:35,300
we had that meeting on november 19. We presented the project. We had about 10-15 people that were there and the one question,

996
01:43:40,985 --> 01:43:44,960
lots of thank you's, and the question was, what is the expected opening date. [overlapping] they just asked what the expected opening date would be.

997
01:43:52,120 --> 01:43:52,120
with that, we respectfully request your approval of both luckett north and luckett south,

998
01:43:59,645 --> 01:43:59,645
knowing luckett north is what you have the public hearing right now for.

999
01:44:03,845 --> 01:44:03,845
I'm happy to answer any more questions now after the public meeting.

1000
01:44:08,330 --> 01:44:10,970
probably. Does anybody have any questions [overlapping]. I'm hearing a lot about portable water and cmid water.

1001
01:44:19,145 --> 01:44:21,515
I'm confused about this. We got an offer under marana and it contains water.

1002
01:44:26,030 --> 01:44:27,575
we all use groundwater, irrigation and drinking water.

1003
01:44:30,110 --> 01:44:32,150
that water is there. Is there a wall between the cmid and the drinking water?

1004
01:44:35,240 --> 01:44:38,480
probably not. But when we use cmid water, and we call it non potable water,

1005
01:44:40,175 --> 01:44:42,860
it is in the non potable mix, isn't it? Is in the potable mix.

1006
01:44:44,690 --> 01:44:46,955
I mean, it's in the potable mix. It could be a variation of different kinds of water.

1007
01:44:50,735 --> 01:44:52,910
it could be effluent, it could be [overlapping] no.

1008
01:44:56,570 --> 01:45:00,500
they have different sources for the [overlapping]. They have different sources. May or may not come from it,

1009
01:45:02,630 --> 01:45:04,640
may or may not be groundwater. But I see the big wells and that bring up the cmid water.

1010
01:45:09,080 --> 01:45:10,310
[overlapping]. Surface water, groundwater, cap water, effluent water.

1011
01:45:14,720 --> 01:45:14,720
there's a whole mix of availability for the irrigation district.

1012
01:45:19,460 --> 01:45:23,000
thank you. I'd like to ask a question about generators. I know you mentioned that it's a little too early to be thinking about the generators,

1013
01:45:26,270 --> 01:45:28,550
but if you're designing all this and you're going to be thinking about what we really need.

1014
01:45:31,700 --> 01:45:34,715
I'll submit that you look at a generator, the state of the art here for a generator,

1015
01:45:36,530 --> 01:45:38,450
caterpillar makes the most of them. Those generators provide 4 megawatts of power.

1016
01:45:42,815 --> 01:45:42,815
if you've got 750 megawatt data center,

1017
01:45:46,940 --> 01:45:46,940
you're going to need 187.5 generators times two because that gives you 374 generators,

1018
01:45:56,210 --> 01:46:00,100
and they're about the size of half this section over here, if not bigger. My math is going to continuing just a little bit.

1019
01:46:03,885 --> 01:46:06,655
there's an engineering acumen. You want to have a built in a safety factor,

1020
01:46:09,685 --> 01:46:12,790
so you want to increase that by 25%. Now, instead of 374 generators surrounding these data centers, you've got 470.

1021
01:46:23,610 --> 01:46:23,610
>> on a mid july power adage outage where there's stress on the grid.

1022
01:46:29,335 --> 01:46:33,115
undoubtedly, there may be, we don't know. There's a lot of unknowns here. Those things fire up.

1023
01:46:35,485 --> 01:46:38,935
I think the noise is going to be a lot greater than you think. The soot and the smoke coming out of those,

1024
01:46:40,990 --> 01:46:43,630
is not going to be pretty. It's going to cause a problem, especially for the cemetery nearby.

1025
01:46:45,460 --> 01:46:49,000
it's going to be very loud [applause]. It's going to be much louder than the roadway.

1026
01:46:51,610 --> 01:46:53,815
I just need some clarity on that. Does bell understand that really,

1027
01:46:55,975 --> 01:46:55,975
what we need to make sure because people that putting information of these data centers,

1028
01:47:01,135 --> 01:47:04,635
they want it to be running. They don't want it to be slowing down, they want to keep them going.

1029
01:47:06,045 --> 01:47:08,670
because this data has got to be crunched down. An outage, they don't want to be slowing down.

1030
01:47:11,355 --> 01:47:11,355
they'll fire up those generators very quickly.

1031
01:47:18,090 --> 01:47:20,200
>> my name is arnaud dusser. I'm director of development with beale infrastructure,

1032
01:47:22,585 --> 01:47:26,260
mayor post, vice mayor ziegler, council member kavanagh. On the question of generators more broadly,

1033
01:47:29,455 --> 01:47:31,975
you bring up the point of number of generators. The reality is that we don't have the ability to

1034
01:47:34,315 --> 01:47:37,060
just put in as many generators as we want. There's a cap that's on how many we can put which is dependent on,

1035
01:47:42,070 --> 01:47:44,135
as we mentioned earlier in the presentation, what pdq allows us to do.

1036
01:47:46,350 --> 01:47:50,055
pdq, there's very strict regulations around this, mostly guided by the epa that limit the amount of emissions.

1037
01:47:54,350 --> 01:47:56,845
as you point to tier four generators. That's a certain level of emission per generator.

1038
01:47:59,965 --> 01:48:03,685
now, the amount of generators that we will ultimately, the maximum number of generators that we are allowed to put in,

1039
01:48:07,315 --> 01:48:07,315
dictated by those limits that are enforced by pdq.

1040
01:48:13,165 --> 01:48:15,730
that is what guides ultimately the ultimate maximum of generators that we're able to put in,

1041
01:48:19,810 --> 01:48:19,810
and those limits are put in place by pdq to avoid

1042
01:48:24,430 --> 01:48:24,430
impacts to the local air quality surrounding the site and in the town of marana.

1043
01:48:29,635 --> 01:48:29,635
ultimately, right now, what we're talking about is the land use.

1044
01:48:33,985 --> 01:48:36,730
the individual generators, each one of them, we need to go through a process of obtaining a permit from pdq.

1045
01:48:40,825 --> 01:48:43,045
at that point, we are submitting the exact specifications of the generators that we're putting in,

1046
01:48:45,745 --> 01:48:48,265
which will guide what the size is, etc. Then we're putting in exactly what the emissions are.

1047
01:48:51,760 --> 01:48:51,760
then ultimately, it's monitored on a yearly basis to ensure that we're

1048
01:48:55,960 --> 01:48:55,960
within those regulated limitations so therefore,

1049
01:49:00,610 --> 01:49:00,610
making sure that we're not just blatantly polluting the area.

1050
01:49:06,160 --> 01:49:10,120
>> [overlapping] thank you. Just to be more clear, data centers are in business to stay on. They don't want to slow down on a late july or mid july day.

1051
01:49:14,845 --> 01:49:18,550
you don't want to be slowing them down, right? >> that is correct. >> if you have a power outage for any reason,

1052
01:49:20,920 --> 01:49:22,180
not because of data centers, but you got to be able to give the power

1053
01:49:26,590 --> 01:49:28,810
to that data center and you need a certain amount of generators to give that power, just be aware.

1054
01:49:31,540 --> 01:49:34,810
>> it's in the same way as data centers are critical infrastructure in the same way as a hospital is [laughter],

1055
01:49:38,110 --> 01:49:39,790
which is why above hospitals, you have generators that ensure that in the case of a blackout,

1056
01:49:43,810 --> 01:49:43,810
you have continuous power to make sure that those critical elements continue to operate.

1057
01:49:48,940 --> 01:49:51,820
the exact amount of power that's required to maintain that critical level is very dependent on the ultimate design,

1058
01:49:58,000 --> 01:50:01,960
which we'll go through over the next several months, and then we'll be going through the process with pdq in order to determine exactly how many generators will need.

1059
01:50:06,355 --> 01:50:07,375
>> thank you. >> thank you.

1060
01:50:11,400 --> 01:50:15,340
>> any other questions for carrie, council member officer? >> [inaudible] day to

1061
01:50:23,740 --> 01:50:25,810
day then it turns over batter is that [inaudible] battery system that what you are able to do?

1062
01:50:29,080 --> 01:50:29,080
>> mayor post, vice mayor ziegler, council member officer.

1063
01:50:34,915 --> 01:50:37,210
it's actually the other way around. Typically, you'll have the batteries that kick on first and then when they run out,

1064
01:50:40,690 --> 01:50:42,430
you'll have the generators. It's usually a ups system,

1065
01:50:44,710 --> 01:50:48,370
so uninterruptable power supply that kicks on first that ensures that you don't have any reduction in power.

1066
01:50:52,270 --> 01:50:55,525
that's also what is used in the case of brownout. The idea is to use a combination of both both batteries and generators.

1067
01:51:03,780 --> 01:51:06,685
>> thank you carrie. >> thank you. >> heithoff, would you please come on up here

1068
01:51:09,880 --> 01:51:09,880
and tell me why my power bill went up 10 percent?

1069
01:51:19,200 --> 01:51:22,525
>> brian, I really, I'm a big fan of trico been a customer all my life.

1070
01:51:27,430 --> 01:51:27,430
I'm very comfortable with you here answering the questions for our community,

1071
01:51:31,750 --> 01:51:34,690
your community member, all your board of directors, live in the community.

1072
01:51:36,310 --> 01:51:36,310
they answer to your consumers and so you know,

1073
01:51:42,640 --> 01:51:45,250
I'm really happy that you're here to answer some of these questions. I'm looking at a sign back there that says, which yes,

1074
01:51:49,810 --> 01:51:49,810
vote council member is going to pay my electric bill increase and so how about it?

1075
01:52:01,200 --> 01:52:05,125
>> I can start with just talking a little bit. Thank you, mayor. Council members. I can talk a little bit about just who trico is to start with.

1076
01:52:10,120 --> 01:52:13,465
>> I would, that'd be great. >> you introduced us a little bit. >> did you introduce yourself?

1077
01:52:15,565 --> 01:52:19,195
>> yes. >> I think you. >> okay. You did. >> I'm brian heithoff, and I live and work here in marana.

1078
01:52:22,930 --> 01:52:25,405
I am the ceo of trico electric cooperative. >> I just wanted everyone to know who you were. Thank you.

1079
01:52:30,960 --> 01:52:33,175
>> a little bit about trico. We are a customer owned utility.

1080
01:52:35,815 --> 01:52:35,815
we serve in and around this area and have since 1945.

1081
01:52:40,345 --> 01:52:40,345
we started, actually just our first substation and lines,

1082
01:52:46,090 --> 01:52:49,285
we're just a couple of miles from this particular site, and we are headquartered here in marana.

1083
01:52:52,150 --> 01:52:54,340
we have 165 employees, about 50,000 members in the electric coop space,

1084
01:53:00,190 --> 01:53:00,190
there's 900 electric coops across the united states that puts us in the larger category.

1085
01:53:06,295 --> 01:53:08,935
we are an experienced organization, we're a capable organization and as you mentioned, mayor,

1086
01:53:14,365 --> 01:53:17,980
we are governed by an elected board, and they are customers,

1087
01:53:19,660 --> 01:53:23,350
who we call members and owners of the organization. We have districts like other organizations.

1088
01:53:27,085 --> 01:53:29,905
that's who I report to. I do not sit on the board. I report to the board,

1089
01:53:31,405 --> 01:53:31,405
and they govern the organization through policies,

1090
01:53:35,770 --> 01:53:35,770
procedures, guidance, and then my job is to carry that out.

1091
01:53:40,315 --> 01:53:43,420
that starts. I guess, one of the things I think is important is like the town council,

1092
01:53:47,770 --> 01:53:47,770
we saw this coming before it actually came and so we also developed principles and

1093
01:53:56,560 --> 01:53:56,560
expectations or the board did and gave those to staff

1094
01:54:01,540 --> 01:54:01,540
for us to work on or through when we have data center prospects.

1095
01:54:06,760 --> 01:54:06,760
we've been doing that. The heart of those principles are that we protect our members.

1096
01:54:13,105 --> 01:54:13,105
if you think of it as a not for profit organization,

1097
01:54:17,710 --> 01:54:20,635
we don't have a profit motive, and so one of the most important things is,

1098
01:54:23,800 --> 01:54:23,800
how do we protect our membership?

1099
01:54:27,840 --> 01:54:27,840
we have done that. As miss sullivan had indicated,

1100
01:54:34,345 --> 01:54:37,480
the infrastructure when it comes to the distribution facilities, so that's the distribution substation on site.

1101
01:54:40,885 --> 01:54:43,270
the high voltage transmission line, which is to get the power from the book power system to

1102
01:54:47,875 --> 01:54:47,875
the local site and the generation facilities that will be required to serve this site,

1103
01:54:54,595 --> 01:54:54,595
the costs and the risks will be borne by the applicant.

1104
01:54:59,710 --> 01:55:02,380
there are no stranded costs. There are no infrastructure costs that we're responsible for, we're at risk of.

1105
01:55:08,680 --> 01:55:11,770
then in addition to that, there's also revenue potential and yes,

1106
01:55:15,430 --> 01:55:17,710
it was mentioned that we just increased our members rates approximately 7% on january 1st.

1107
01:55:23,790 --> 01:55:23,790
that's based on 2023 costs.

1108
01:55:29,190 --> 01:55:31,980
we go through a process. Whenever we have a rate increase, it's like the water issue earlier where we have a cost of

1109
01:55:35,250 --> 01:55:35,250
service study and because of the regulatory lag,

1110
01:55:39,725 --> 01:55:42,790
in order to implement a rate increase, we are actually working a couple of years in advance.

1111
01:55:45,400 --> 01:55:45,400
we did the cost of service study based on 2023.

1112
01:55:50,410 --> 01:55:52,690
was approved by our board, they pay the same rates as our members,

1113
01:55:55,210 --> 01:55:58,360
and then it went to the arizona corporations commission for their scrutiny and there and ultimately,

1114
01:56:01,660 --> 01:56:01,660
they decided to approve it and that went into effect on january 1st.

1115
01:56:06,235 --> 01:56:06,235
now, part of the story is that we have not increased rates since 2017 or base rates.

1116
01:56:14,345 --> 01:56:14,345
we had gone almost nine years in between the time we had

1117
01:56:18,600 --> 01:56:18,600
base rate increases and looking forward, we have modeling.

1118
01:56:23,850 --> 01:56:23,850
now, the inflation and cost increases in our industry are higher than what they have

1119
01:56:30,550 --> 01:56:30,550
been and so we are anticipating our next rate adjustment or increase in 2029.

1120
01:56:37,285 --> 01:56:38,800
>> no matter what? >> no. [laughter] there's variables.

1121
01:56:43,300 --> 01:56:45,250
we make assumptions in our modeling. >> your model shows no data center included,

1122
01:56:48,190 --> 01:56:51,670
your model shows a rate increase in 2029. >> just reasonable assumptions.

1123
01:56:53,020 --> 01:56:56,605
maybe that's 2028? Maybe that's 2030? By 2029.

1124
01:56:58,840 --> 01:56:58,840
it also shows that the revenues from this project,

1125
01:57:04,255 --> 01:57:06,895
and this is a conservative estimate, it will push the need for that rate increase out three to four years.

1126
01:57:11,665 --> 01:57:11,665
that's on the low end of the power requirements mentioned.

1127
01:57:15,715 --> 01:57:18,895
if it's even higher or if there's future phases, we're now looking at probably double or maybe even triple that number

1128
01:57:24,235 --> 01:57:27,340
as far as how far we can push that rate increase out. Let's just say that the base rate does get pushed up a year.

1129
01:57:31,180 --> 01:57:31,180
there's a deep recession or some geopolitical event that just causes us to whatever.

1130
01:57:36,865 --> 01:57:40,240
but the differential is still the same. The need for the rate increase with the data center is still

1131
01:57:43,330 --> 01:57:47,260
three to four years after. After that. That's what our projections show.

1132
01:57:49,980 --> 01:57:53,665
I guess to maybe summarize all that, we are protected first and foremost,

1133
01:57:56,335 --> 01:57:57,820
and we protected our members. There's no benefit to trico per say,

1134
01:58:00,445 --> 01:58:03,580
it's for the benefit of our members because everything flows through us. We're a cooperative. That's how it works.

1135
01:58:05,455 --> 01:58:05,455
>> there's a huge need for infrastructure improvements to your system.

1136
01:58:12,970 --> 01:58:15,715
who's paying for that? >> our current outside of the data center.

1137
01:58:18,745 --> 01:58:19,990
>> no data center. >> data center will be the costs and the risks are assumed by that.

1138
01:58:23,470 --> 01:58:25,600
>> they're going to pay all of that. How are you going to assure that they're going to pay all of that?

1139
01:58:28,960 --> 01:58:31,675
>> that'll all be done well, in one way. I mean, there are going to be contracts that we've started developing and we'll need to,

1140
01:58:36,385 --> 01:58:38,965
depending on the decision here, move forward with. But it's really before we start

1141
01:58:41,680 --> 01:58:44,410
moving any ground before we buy any equipment, before we buy any material? >> you will get that money in advance of you building the required system?

1142
01:58:48,370 --> 01:58:49,765
>> that's correct. >> there will not be any risk to your rate payer?

1143
01:58:53,215 --> 01:58:54,415
>> that's correct. >> if they don't use it,

1144
01:58:59,260 --> 01:59:01,930
what happens? They still pay? >> they don't use it.

1145
01:59:04,930 --> 01:59:07,120
>> if they don't use the power that they've- >> [overlapping] yeah. That actually goes back to silman comments also.

1146
01:59:11,290 --> 01:59:14,845
the contract, the ongoing contracts will have fixed costs. It'll be on the first date of power availability,

1147
01:59:17,830 --> 01:59:19,915
not whether they need it or not. Let's say that they delay it.

1148
01:59:22,000 --> 01:59:22,000
there's a delay. It's the contracts will be written that

1149
01:59:26,485 --> 01:59:26,485
we'll start billing when it's available and we'll have agreed upon that in advance.

1150
01:59:31,630 --> 01:59:34,210
>> did anybody else have questions for brian? >> yeah [inaudible].

1151
01:59:37,690 --> 01:59:40,590
mayor thank you. >> I turn it off. Thank you.

1152
01:59:43,930 --> 01:59:47,020
mayor asked me if anybody. Thank you, mayor. Appreciate it. >> hi. Big power line,

1153
01:59:50,920 --> 01:59:50,920
big structure is coming through because the data center needs it.

1154
01:59:59,160 --> 02:00:02,905
that's going to be for the trico membership, isn't it? How do you say that power bringing in major transmission lines from the north or wherever

1155
02:00:10,240 --> 02:00:13,660
these power stations are going to be built because we're going to need to build a lot of them to provide the power necessary for not just a marana,

1156
02:00:17,770 --> 02:00:21,025
but other data centers around southern arizona. How are you going to segregate that out and say, look,

1157
02:00:23,785 --> 02:00:27,490
they're going to pay for 100% of those transmission lines? >> mayor through you to council member kavanagh.

1158
02:00:31,225 --> 02:00:34,480
in this case, our studies indicate and the preliminary designs are indicating dedicated structures for the site.

1159
02:00:40,345 --> 02:00:42,535
we have an interconnection point, and there will be dedicated structures so therefore,

1160
02:00:45,430 --> 02:00:48,100
the cost allocation is really easy. >> okay.

1161
02:00:49,750 --> 02:00:53,280
>> vice mayor. >> thank you, mr. Mayor so to be clear.

1162
02:00:56,770 --> 02:01:00,730
data I'm sorry, on next door, facebook, instagram, a couple of other social media platforms,

1163
02:01:03,610 --> 02:01:03,610
folks have said that these increases.

1164
02:01:09,520 --> 02:01:11,515
we'll start with trico. A lot of people are saying,

1165
02:01:13,915 --> 02:01:13,915
you're raising your rates and that's because of this data center.

1166
02:01:18,250 --> 02:01:18,250
I want to make sure that everybody understands that's not true.

1167
02:01:23,380 --> 02:01:27,250
along and that's what you've said when miss tep comes up here. First of all, I wish I was a trico member, because tep,

1168
02:01:30,910 --> 02:01:34,060
you've been given us some late changes here often, and you've only done it since 2017,

1169
02:01:36,940 --> 02:01:38,980
so I might have to move. But in the same with tep, the same thing,

1170
02:01:43,405 --> 02:01:45,835
I see so many people saying, the reason they're raising our rates is because of the data center.

1171
02:01:51,840 --> 02:01:55,060
that frustrates me because again, that's not the way it works.

1172
02:01:56,425 --> 02:01:56,425
you work start here and you go into the future,

1173
02:02:00,700 --> 02:02:03,250
like you were saying on what the rate is going to be. I just wanted to make that clear and have you make that clear

1174
02:02:06,280 --> 02:02:06,280
that that's what people are seeing in this rate.

1175
02:02:10,885 --> 02:02:10,885
it's a little coincidence that tep and trico are raising their rates,

1176
02:02:16,690 --> 02:02:16,690
but it isn't based on the data center. Thank you.

1177
02:02:21,010 --> 02:02:23,650
>> mayor, to you, vice chair ziegler, if I can comment, or add to that?

1178
02:02:25,435 --> 02:02:25,435
absolutely. It would be that the rate increase we just put in place

1179
02:02:29,800 --> 02:02:29,800
were actually based on the cost and the rate in the in the material,

1180
02:02:34,465 --> 02:02:34,465
labor equipment, increases that we experienced in 2022 and 2023,

1181
02:02:41,155 --> 02:02:44,035
because that's when the cost of service was done. It just there's a regulatory lag between the time when we had we did

1182
02:02:48,160 --> 02:02:48,160
the study and the time when we can put a rate increase in place.

1183
02:02:53,230 --> 02:02:55,165
>> thank you. >> to put that more clearly,

1184
02:02:57,925 --> 02:02:57,925
there's no data center costs in that and if we were to do one today,

1185
02:03:02,965 --> 02:03:05,260
because of the way we're structuring it, there are no data center costs in a future rate increase.

1186
02:03:09,450 --> 02:03:09,450
>> it's almost like a separate way.

1187
02:03:13,705 --> 02:03:13,705
>> mayor, it's a rate making concept that we use in other places,

1188
02:03:21,190 --> 02:03:24,940
but it's a direct assignment of costs. >> but whatever their cost is, they're paying it, your rate payers have nothing to do with that?

1189
02:03:28,225 --> 02:03:31,070
>> yeah. Correct. >> any other questions from brian?

1190
02:03:33,885 --> 02:03:35,700
thank you very much, brian. I really appreciate it.

1191
02:03:38,130 --> 02:03:38,130
is there somebody here for tep?

1192
02:03:42,860 --> 02:03:42,860
>> guys. 2017. You guys.

1193
02:03:47,305 --> 02:03:49,940
>> apparently, the vice mayor is going to give you a hard time, so I apologize in advance for that.

1194
02:03:52,175 --> 02:03:55,770
>> that's okay. >> good evening, mayor, vice mayor, counsel.

1195
02:03:58,660 --> 02:03:58,660
I'm chris arb vice president of public policy for ts power. Thanks for having us tonight.

1196
02:04:03,265 --> 02:04:05,440
>> I guess the big question tonight is, will a data center increase the rates for your customers?

1197
02:04:10,730 --> 02:04:12,980
>> no. The answer is no. Similar to what brian mentioned.

1198
02:04:14,825 --> 02:04:17,450
to the extent we can add revenues to the system, that helps bring down those fixed costs for all of

1199
02:04:19,880 --> 02:04:23,405
our customers providing similar benefits that brian described. I'll just touch on your question, vice mayor.

1200
02:04:26,435 --> 02:04:26,435
the rate case that's pending right now for our company tucson on electric power,

1201
02:04:30,740 --> 02:04:33,560
that's based on a 2024 test period, none of the costs or expenses that we're seeking recovery for today are related

1202
02:04:39,110 --> 02:04:41,825
to the current projects before you or another project we're working with bill on in pima county.

1203
02:04:45,965 --> 02:04:49,760
>> do you anticipate using profits from a data center to offset your rates for your customers like trico is going to do, or you.

1204
02:04:54,020 --> 02:04:54,020
>> absolutely, those additional revenue requirements help us meet

1205
02:04:58,085 --> 02:04:58,085
the allowed return that's authorized by the corporation commission.

1206
02:05:02,360 --> 02:05:02,360
to the extent we can generate revenues that help us earn that return,

1207
02:05:06,500 --> 02:05:08,180
that helps us like brian mentioned, same with tep, helps us defer or delay those rate cases into the future.

1208
02:05:13,895 --> 02:05:17,735
>> what is the acc allowing you for a return? >> currently for tucson electric,

1209
02:05:19,580 --> 02:05:23,225
it's in the range of 9.3%, 9.4%? >> they like you to stick with pretty solid in that number?

1210
02:05:27,170 --> 02:05:29,150
>> they do and it's because of some of the regulatory lag concerns that mr. Cavanagh described,

1211
02:05:32,780 --> 02:05:35,840
it's typical that we have a hard time actually earning that because our rates are set on historic costs and investments.

1212
02:05:40,520 --> 02:05:40,520
>> you're comfortable that you will that our community would see

1213
02:05:44,810 --> 02:05:44,810
no rate increases based on a data center?

1214
02:05:49,055 --> 02:05:52,280
>> that's correct. >> any questions? >> may I have a question.

1215
02:05:53,765 --> 02:05:56,020
>> council member kavanagh. >> just a curiosity, chris.

1216
02:05:59,135 --> 02:06:02,945
when you go to the tep website, the first thing you see is, we all got to do our best to conserve energy.

1217
02:06:06,335 --> 02:06:09,470
but do we have an energy shortage? Is that why you're doing that?

1218
02:06:11,210 --> 02:06:13,145
I guess we can all do better. But the big question is where this power is going to come from.

1219
02:06:17,780 --> 02:06:19,940
>> mayor pose, vice mayor, council member kavanagh,

1220
02:06:21,965 --> 02:06:21,965
we always encourage customers to conserve energy like we do on the water side,

1221
02:06:26,840 --> 02:06:30,740
too, the cheapest power that we can get is the power we save. We've got energy efficiency standards

1222
02:06:33,980 --> 02:06:36,605
and requirements with the arizona corporation commission. But we think those are just good ways for customers

1223
02:06:39,680 --> 02:06:43,040
to save money on their bills and to help conserve energy. While that is one source of power,

1224
02:06:45,335 --> 02:06:45,335
it's certainly not enough to satisfy the demands of large customers like a data center.

1225
02:06:51,580 --> 02:06:54,080
>> any other questions? >> thank you very much.

1226
02:06:55,790 --> 02:06:56,915
>> thank you. >> does counsel need a break or do you want to continue to move forward?

1227
02:07:00,320 --> 02:07:00,320
[background].

1228
02:07:05,780 --> 02:07:08,975
>> jill, we're ready? I'm assuming. >> may post.

1229
02:07:10,325 --> 02:07:13,445
>> yes. >> mayor post. We're here. If I may, before we begin the public comment portion of the hearing,

1230
02:07:18,260 --> 02:07:20,690
I just wanted to make a comment for the record about councilor rakai not being present here

1231
02:07:23,180 --> 02:07:26,540
tonight that he does have a conflict of interest regarding these two rezoning applications.

1232
02:07:30,350 --> 02:07:32,030
he has declared that conflict. He has filed the appropriate paperwork.

1233
02:07:34,550 --> 02:07:36,245
with the town clerk's office. He is one of the property owners of the lockett road south property.

1234
02:07:43,160 --> 02:07:44,930
I just wanted to put that on the record. Since typically when we have conflicts of interest,

1235
02:07:48,215 --> 02:07:50,690
if a council member is here present, they would declare it from the dias and get down and leave and since he's not here,

1236
02:07:54,410 --> 02:07:57,155
I wanted to do that in his place. He has not participated as a council member in

1237
02:08:00,500 --> 02:08:03,500
any official capacity in any of the discussions or deliberations into these rezoning applications and

1238
02:08:06,800 --> 02:08:06,800
obviously isn't participating tonight in the public hearing or in the vote.

1239
02:08:11,015 --> 02:08:13,175
>> well, since you brought it up, are there any other conflicts of interest from our council members?

1240
02:08:18,620 --> 02:08:18,620
>> mr. Mayor, we are not aware of any facts that would give rise to a legal conflict

1241
02:08:24,410 --> 02:08:24,410
of interest for any of the other six council members under arizona state law.

1242
02:08:28,850 --> 02:08:31,130
>> thank you very much. Joe? >> yes, mr. Mayor. The first speaker is matthew rowan trapp,

1243
02:08:34,805 --> 02:08:34,805
followed by sue ritz and margaret schultz.

1244
02:08:40,720 --> 02:08:40,720
>> everybody said, let's go. I'm eating this.

1245
02:08:45,490 --> 02:08:48,295
>> that's, I feel like you get first all the time. >> because I show up early.

1246
02:08:50,095 --> 02:08:50,095
>> do that on purpose. Mayor post, council members.

1247
02:08:55,090 --> 02:08:56,845
my name is matthew rowan trap. I'm a lifelong marana resident and a current student at the university of arizona.

1248
02:09:02,160 --> 02:09:05,210
I would firstly like to recognize that many of the concerns I have about the environment, the economics,

1249
02:09:08,015 --> 02:09:11,240
and other unknowns about this project are shared by people who can articulate them much better than I could ever hope to.

1250
02:09:14,645 --> 02:09:17,600
we all heard them at the planning and zoning commission, and I assume that we will hear many more of them tonight.

1251
02:09:21,770 --> 02:09:25,130
tonight, I would like to use my time to not only address you, but also my fellow citizens on a more personal level.

1252
02:09:30,095 --> 02:09:33,935
firstly, council members, I ask you to remember that your responsibility tonight is to your constituents.

1253
02:09:37,355 --> 02:09:40,325
if tonight is anything like the planning and zoning commission, we will hear countless morana residents from all walks of life and

1254
02:09:43,130 --> 02:09:46,655
areas of expertise speak with concerns about this project. In the planning and zoning commission meeting, though,

1255
02:09:48,995 --> 02:09:52,145
the concerns of these citizens went largely unheard and unconsidered. I trust you though to be better and to listen to the engineers,

1256
02:09:56,315 --> 02:09:59,780
the research analysts, and the rate payers of your town. I know you all to be good honest people,

1257
02:10:03,215 --> 02:10:06,860
and I trust that even if you, like vice mayor ziegler, have received campaign funds from the families of keri silvyn and rory juneman,

1258
02:10:11,315 --> 02:10:13,265
you will not let that cloud your judgment, and I thank you deeply for that.

1259
02:10:15,950 --> 02:10:19,430
now, I would like to applaud and thank all of my friends and neighbors here for showing up tonight.

1260
02:10:22,355 --> 02:10:25,670
it fills me with such incredible hope to see such enthusiastic, and passionate civil engagement.

1261
02:10:27,365 --> 02:10:27,365
let's keep this passion flowing and use it to remember who we are at our core.

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02:10:31,445 --> 02:10:34,190
we are a town of veterans, artists, farmers, doctors, scientists, and students.

1263
02:10:38,495 --> 02:10:41,525
we are a town of first time homeowners and retirees, a town of friends, family, and neighbors.

1264
02:10:44,345 --> 02:10:46,265
we are a town built on community, not corporate interests and billionaire investments.

1265
02:10:49,220 --> 02:10:51,860
let's not let anyone forget that, least of all us. Thank you, counsel, and my friends.

1266
02:10:54,290 --> 02:10:54,290
[applause]

1267
02:11:02,210 --> 02:11:04,745
>> go ahead. Mr. Mayor. I'd like to address matthew. Sure. You want to come up to the podium?

1268
02:11:10,540 --> 02:11:13,190
>> is that out of order? >> we've got an attorney right here. You could ask her, sir.

1269
02:11:19,540 --> 02:11:22,100
>> mr. Mayor, vice mayor ziegler, this is a public hearing.

1270
02:11:23,600 --> 02:11:26,555
there can be comment from the council members, and they may respond to the comments that are made by the public.

1271
02:11:30,620 --> 02:11:30,620
>> thank you, jane. Matthew, you called me out and said that I had taken

1272
02:11:40,190 --> 02:11:40,190
a campaign contribution and lazarus a company, su.

1273
02:11:50,315 --> 02:11:52,580
>> not from their company, but from the individual partners, are silvan and roy jiman?

1274
02:11:54,365 --> 02:11:56,000
>> yes. That's absolutely right. You can find that, of course, as you guys did.

1275
02:11:58,565 --> 02:12:00,890
it's on our website, three clicks, and you can get right to the financials for 2024 and many years back.

1276
02:12:07,370 --> 02:12:10,520
first of all, title 16, I believe it is, title 16 is campaign finance.

1277
02:12:17,510 --> 02:12:17,510
I encourage you and others in here to read about title 16.

1278
02:12:24,230 --> 02:12:24,230
it allows campaign contributions.

1279
02:12:29,470 --> 02:12:32,360
I think across the country, even our presidents take campaign contributions.

1280
02:12:35,825 --> 02:12:35,825
I take campaign contributions because I am retired.

1281
02:12:41,790 --> 02:12:44,395
I make $40,000 a year. I work for 30 years, have a savings,

1282
02:12:47,500 --> 02:12:50,885
but I make $40,000 a year. I'm on a fixed income.

1283
02:12:52,775 --> 02:12:55,940
some of us and I would think a lot of us who run, and I know yourself and another individual are going to be running.

1284
02:13:00,845 --> 02:13:00,845
let me just say you may find

1285
02:13:05,270 --> 02:13:05,270
yourself wanting a campaign contribution to help you run your campaign.

1286
02:13:11,690 --> 02:13:11,690
what I'm saying to you is it's lawful.

1287
02:13:15,965 --> 02:13:15,965
again, title 16, please go there and look at that.

1288
02:13:21,680 --> 02:13:24,410
let me correct something. Your statements were that I took $7,000 from.

1289
02:13:28,805 --> 02:13:31,115
>> I did not say that. It was 300 from the family of silvan and 300 from the family of jimmy, if I'm correct.

1290
02:13:34,580 --> 02:13:34,580
>> but what I saw on media on next door.

1291
02:13:38,600 --> 02:13:41,165
I took $7,000. >> if I remember correctly, that was saying that mayor honea did,

1292
02:13:45,830 --> 02:13:48,335
which there has been a correction sent out. But I never made those statements.

1293
02:13:51,515 --> 02:13:54,455
>> you didn't. I apologize. Others made it.

1294
02:13:55,850 --> 02:13:57,740
let me continue, please. I did not take $7,000 from that company.

1295
02:14:04,370 --> 02:14:07,955
one of the reasons is because you can't. I think you guys need to read your handbooks.

1296
02:14:11,000 --> 02:14:13,835
it's 6,000. Secondly, I took 300.

1297
02:14:17,405 --> 02:14:21,350
I'd like to get that cleared up, and that went out everywhere. It was 300, and actually,

1298
02:14:23,480 --> 02:14:25,550
in your rebuttal or online, you showed the 300.

1299
02:14:27,980 --> 02:14:30,260
I want to make that clear. Other than that, I wish you luck,

1300
02:14:33,690 --> 02:14:33,690
but you need to pay attention of what you're doing.

1301
02:14:38,670 --> 02:14:38,670
but I thank you, at least you're cordial and I appreciate you.

1302
02:14:43,120 --> 02:14:45,845
the ua, good luck to you there. Great school. Thank you, sir.

1303
02:14:47,840 --> 02:14:47,840
>> before I go down. I do want to say that I appreciate you clarifying those things,

1304
02:14:52,310 --> 02:14:52,310
and I do understand and appreciate that the contributions were lawful.

1305
02:14:56,990 --> 02:14:56,990
I just wanted to ask and remind you that

1306
02:15:00,995 --> 02:15:00,995
they should not be a deciding factor in your vote tonight.

1307
02:15:06,170 --> 02:15:06,170
I trust your honor and your ethics to not let those clod your judgment,

1308
02:15:11,930 --> 02:15:14,945
but I just wanted to put that as a reminder. >> matthew, I appreciate that.

1309
02:15:17,825 --> 02:15:20,795
again, I've been up on this dies for 20 years. I'm not too concerned because I have a very good reputation in the town of marana.

1310
02:15:25,220 --> 02:15:26,705
not with everybody. There's people that do support me and don't like me,

1311
02:15:29,315 --> 02:15:32,660
and this is one of the reasons because I'm pretty straightforward. I see you are, too,

1312
02:15:34,460 --> 02:15:38,195
so that's great. Thank you. >> I appreciate your time,

1313
02:15:39,875 --> 02:15:39,875
and I look forward to hearing everybody else's comments and I'm sure you do the same.

1314
02:15:45,215 --> 02:15:45,215
thank you. [applause]

1315
02:15:51,680 --> 02:15:53,210
>> next speaker is sue ritz, followed by margaret schultz and then jackie mcguire.

1316
02:15:56,950 --> 02:15:59,420
>> mayor, vice mayor. Members of the council, my name is sue ritz.

1317
02:16:01,850 --> 02:16:04,415
I'm a marana town resident, a registered professional engineer and a veteran of 24 years in the army national guard.

1318
02:16:11,165 --> 02:16:14,120
I was at the zoning meeting and I heard a lot of stuff and I have written some remarks here,

1319
02:16:17,195 --> 02:16:19,805
but I'm going to throw them away. I'm going to address water first.

1320
02:16:22,580 --> 02:16:26,420
now, there have been statements made by beal, ntp, and others that the water consumption for these data centers is

1321
02:16:30,530 --> 02:16:30,530
greatly reduced because you're not going to actually be irrigating fields.

1322
02:16:35,345 --> 02:16:38,990
that does not address the amount of water that is consumed by the generating stations that provide the power to this data center.

1323
02:16:43,655 --> 02:16:43,655
the coal fire stations are currently only operated seasonally.

1324
02:16:48,485 --> 02:16:52,235
if this goes through, they're not going to be able to do that. They're going to have to keep that 903 megawatts

1325
02:16:55,535 --> 02:16:55,535
of name plate power operating, the stations,

1326
02:16:59,825 --> 02:17:01,640
I looked at their data, and I estimated that those stations consume 11,100 acre feet of water every year.

1327
02:17:09,410 --> 02:17:09,410
that is not a positive in the water category when you

1328
02:17:14,030 --> 02:17:14,030
are 900,000 acre feet in the deficit for cap water.

1329
02:17:18,815 --> 02:17:18,815
that's not good. Any additional power that you have to

1330
02:17:22,820 --> 02:17:22,820
generate to provide power to not just this power station,

1331
02:17:26,930 --> 02:17:26,930
but to others that are also being proposed in our same region,

1332
02:17:31,640 --> 02:17:35,360
three gigawatts north of us, 286 megawatts for project blue.

1333
02:17:39,125 --> 02:17:39,125
now 1,100 to 1,500 megawatts for this one,

1334
02:17:44,105 --> 02:17:46,865
you're going to have to build new generating stations. The only way you're going to have to do that is thermal generating stations.

1335
02:17:51,935 --> 02:17:55,655
those are 7-10 years out on lead time. Substation transformers are four years out on lead time.

1336
02:18:00,860 --> 02:18:03,230
think about that. Vote no. [applause]

1337
02:18:11,090 --> 02:18:11,090
>> next speaker is margaret schultz followed by jackie mcguire and then ryan zippie.

1338
02:18:18,310 --> 02:18:21,185
good evening, mayor and council. My name is margaret schultz and I'm a researcher with a nonprofit called worker power.

1339
02:18:26,915 --> 02:18:29,480
I'm here today with some concerns about the proposed rezoning of the 600 acre area for data centers.

1340
02:18:33,830 --> 02:18:33,830
as data center developments have accelerated across the united states.

1341
02:18:38,405 --> 02:18:41,135
communities have reported negative impacts, water contamination, air pollution,

1342
02:18:43,610 --> 02:18:47,030
and rising utility prices to name a few. La marana's ordinance to prevent data centers

1343
02:18:50,300 --> 02:18:53,570
from using potable water is a step in the right direction. Are the council members certain that there is enough contractual stipulations

1344
02:18:58,310 --> 02:18:58,310
in place to protect residents from all of the possible risks,

1345
02:19:03,185 --> 02:19:06,095
not just potable water use? Additionally, how will this over one gigawatt of power need be generated,

1346
02:19:12,365 --> 02:19:15,440
and are the council and mayor certain that the cost for building this energy infrastructure will not be passed on to ratepayers,

1347
02:19:19,550 --> 02:19:19,550
outside of verbal promises made by the companies themselves?

1348
02:19:24,065 --> 02:19:27,770
this is very critical in my opinion, and hasn't been addressed, although it is outside of the council's purview,

1349
02:19:30,050 --> 02:19:33,140
the question of what is the amount of money that the state tax breaks will allow the developers and end users to receive?

1350
02:19:38,660 --> 02:19:42,395
how does that fit into the economic impact of this project and considering not just removing the tax breaks,

1351
02:19:46,160 --> 02:19:49,955
but the opportunity cost of those tax breaks themselves. I think understanding that would be very critical before moving forward.

1352
02:19:54,170 --> 02:19:54,170
I'm asking that the mayor and council consider these questions and vote no if

1353
02:19:59,030 --> 02:19:59,030
you don't have very clear specific answers to these questions,

1354
02:20:03,605 --> 02:20:06,620
because this is the moment to make sure to build in all of those contractual stipulations as strictly as possible.

1355
02:20:10,550 --> 02:20:14,195
the consequences are for all of us for our shared water, air, and economic future.

1356
02:20:16,685 --> 02:20:16,685
what we've seen happen in other communities shows us the stakes are high,

1357
02:20:21,500 --> 02:20:21,500
and we really ask you to delay or vote no.

1358
02:20:25,715 --> 02:20:27,710
tonight, thank you for the opportunity to speak. [applause]

1359
02:20:32,750 --> 02:20:34,550
>> the next speaker is jackie mcguire, followed by ryan zippie, then perry from.

1360
02:20:45,580 --> 02:20:49,145
>> hello, mayor, vice mayor, members of the council. I appreciate that you want us to keep from calling out,

1361
02:20:52,280 --> 02:20:55,655
but last time three minutes was not nearly enough to cover all of this, two minutes certainly is not enough.

1362
02:20:57,545 --> 02:21:00,230
I have personally held community meetings and included more than 10 neighbors in the last few days,

1363
02:21:03,035 --> 02:21:03,035
and so I've compiled all of the concerns of these neighbors in these documents.

1364
02:21:07,475 --> 02:21:07,475
I am an ai data center and cybersecurity expert.

1365
02:21:11,480 --> 02:21:13,160
it's what I get paid to do for a living, and I consult with some of the executives of some of

1366
02:21:15,560 --> 02:21:18,365
the largest companies in the world on these matters. To quote the press release from yesterday from attorney general kris mayes.

1367
02:21:22,475 --> 02:21:26,390
citing a lack of transparency, attorney general kris mayes is contesting the arizona corporation commission's december 10th decision to

1368
02:21:29,360 --> 02:21:32,465
authorize tucson electric powers private energy agreement with humprey's peak power and beale infrastructure group,

1369
02:21:35,270 --> 02:21:38,270
to power a hyperscale data center notice project blue, which by the way, is 20% the size of the one that's being proposed today.

1370
02:21:43,415 --> 02:21:46,280
the loophole created for the developers of this data center to secretly set electricity rates behind closed doors and

1371
02:21:49,370 --> 02:21:51,260
outside the public process is a new rare and dangerous recipe for massive price hikes for arizona customers.

1372
02:21:56,315 --> 02:21:56,315
what guarantees do we have the bill is not going to exploit the loopholes that myself

1373
02:22:01,550 --> 02:22:03,860
and many other subject matter experts have passionately explained to you exist in this ordinance.

1374
02:22:06,890 --> 02:22:06,890
this ordinance needs to be about 10 times the length that it is.

1375
02:22:10,925 --> 02:22:12,920
we need a moratorium on this vote for at least six months to fully consider the fact that we were just

1376
02:22:16,160 --> 02:22:19,130
told not enough power from the grid constitutes an emergency where they can fire up all of those generators.

1377
02:22:22,745 --> 02:22:22,745
currently, trico puts out 230 megawatts of power

1378
02:22:27,185 --> 02:22:27,185
or roughly 20% of what would be needed for one of these data centers,

1379
02:22:31,670 --> 02:22:33,770
and that's assuming no residential growth. These data centers will consume almost as much power as

1380
02:22:36,500 --> 02:22:39,320
the entire tucson metropolitan area. They are guaranteeing transmission and infrastructure, not generation.

1381
02:22:43,730 --> 02:22:46,250
those things take 30 years to amortize, and we will pay those gains.

1382
02:22:48,020 --> 02:22:48,020
please delay this vote enough to understand what you don't understand or vote no.

1383
02:22:53,720 --> 02:22:53,720
thank you. [applause]

1384
02:23:03,800 --> 02:23:03,800
>> jackie, I also was very disappointed that you chose to bring ed honea into this mix.

1385
02:23:11,690 --> 02:23:11,690
a gentleman that gave his life for this town and is unable to

1386
02:23:19,250 --> 02:23:19,250
defend himself and then erroneously talk about the campaign contributions that he got.

1387
02:23:26,735 --> 02:23:26,735
even though he ended up donating and generally did donate his campaign contributions,

1388
02:23:33,440 --> 02:23:35,615
I thought it was in poor taste. >> the reason that that was misunderstood is that

1389
02:23:39,635 --> 02:23:39,635
ed honea's campaign erred in filing their campaign finance disclosures.

1390
02:23:44,990 --> 02:23:48,260
instead of filling out line by line the individual contracts. >> just the fact that you brought him into this argument?

1391
02:23:51,785 --> 02:23:51,785
>> it's important. [overlapping] if this process started in 2023 and you knew this was happening,

1392
02:24:04,490 --> 02:24:06,680
you should not have taken a dollar, any of you from anybody involved in this decision.

1393
02:24:09,470 --> 02:24:11,945
>> did I? >> I didn't say you did. I clarified multiple times in what I said.

1394
02:24:14,735 --> 02:24:16,040
I didn't write that article. >> jackie, all I said is that I thought it was in poor taste to bring up the mayor.

1395
02:24:24,440 --> 02:24:27,950
>> the mayor filed paperwork that on paper looked like an explicit violation of campaign finance laws.

1396
02:24:31,280 --> 02:24:35,255
not a single person in this town or government recognized that. I didn't file that paperwork.

1397
02:24:37,055 --> 02:24:37,055
multiple members filed incorrect campaign finance forms

1398
02:24:42,125 --> 02:24:44,420
where they did the math improperly. So when you looked at the total for the election cycle,

1399
02:24:47,180 --> 02:24:49,280
it absolutely did say that contributes $7700 to mayor honea. [overlapping] >> I think you're missing my point. There was absolutely no need to bring mayor honea.

1400
02:24:54,830 --> 02:24:58,820
>> there's a difference between legal and proper. >> he is unable to defend himself. >> something that is legal is not necessarily proper.

1401
02:25:02,780 --> 02:25:04,655
you should have known, you should not have taken that money because you

1402
02:25:06,980 --> 02:25:10,940
have known since 2023, unlike most of us. >> that's not true. Thank you very much. >> most of my neighbors don't even know this was happening.

1403
02:25:12,260 --> 02:25:15,005
>> thank you very much. >> mr. Mayor. > no, that's it. >> mr. Mayor, if I could,

1404
02:25:17,435 --> 02:25:20,120
I think it would be wise for the purposes of the public [overlapping] hearing just to have the public comments,

1405
02:25:23,315 --> 02:25:23,315
and then the council can respond after the public comments.

1406
02:25:30,250 --> 02:25:33,650
>> I heard what you say, but to tell you the truth, I'd rather do it as they come up jane,

1407
02:25:38,650 --> 02:25:41,920
because the reason is okay, an hour and a half from now, I'm not going to remember what matthew,

1408
02:25:44,020 --> 02:25:46,885
and sue ritz have come up. I'm not going to remember two hours from now what they said. That's why.

1409
02:25:53,835 --> 02:25:57,610
>> I did not file that paperwork, and I am sorry that the treasurer of late mayor honea's campaign filed paperwork with incorrect information on it.

1410
02:26:02,650 --> 02:26:02,650
but the fact that nobody in this town caught that should be a huge red flag.

1411
02:26:07,315 --> 02:26:07,315
that if we can't count on you to review a three page campaign finance form,

1412
02:26:12,720 --> 02:26:15,920
we're supposed to count on you to regulate a high personnel data center. >> thank you very much.

1413
02:26:16,820 --> 02:26:20,720
>> that's a joke. >> you're completely missing my point. >> that's a joke. >> thank you very much. >> jane.

1414
02:26:21,110 --> 02:26:24,245
>> thank you. >> jane, can we go ahead and continue. >> let's just move on. >> no. I want to make sure we can go ahead and continue.

1415
02:26:27,350 --> 02:26:29,780
I understand your suggestion and sometimes we do that when we have not so many people here,

1416
02:26:33,920 --> 02:26:33,920
but what I'm asking and maybe one of the other council members could speak up

1417
02:26:38,075 --> 02:26:38,075
is I would rather do it if it's appropriate as we go.

1418
02:26:43,025 --> 02:26:45,230
>> I think we just go through this. Let's just listen to what everybody needs to say and move on. I know.

1419
02:26:53,060 --> 02:26:54,740
>> maybe it's my memory or something. >> I know. But let's just.

1420
02:26:57,455 --> 02:27:00,560
>> no mayor. I just would rather do it that way, but if that's what you say then we'll go ahead.

1421
02:27:01,740 --> 02:27:04,550
>> can you call the next name please. >> yes, mr. Mayor. >> the next speaker is ryan zippie.

1422
02:27:06,725 --> 02:27:09,500
>> you need to respect them. >> I'm trying. >> good evening. I'm going to be a very unpopular speaker right now, I can tell.

1423
02:27:13,895 --> 02:27:16,940
mayor post, vice mayor ziegler, marana town council members.

1424
02:27:19,655 --> 02:27:21,890
thank you. My name is ryan zippie. Thank you so much for the opportunity to speak this evening.

1425
02:27:24,515 --> 02:27:24,515
I'm the external vice president of northwest firefighters local 3572,

1426
02:27:28,550 --> 02:27:31,460
and also a 30 year resident of the town of marana. I've spent the last couple of weeks debating if I should address the town council as

1427
02:27:37,310 --> 02:27:39,980
a representative of the brave men and women I serve this community with or as a private citizen of the town of marana.

1428
02:27:43,505 --> 02:27:47,210
although I could make a very compelling argument as to the immense positive financial benefit

1429
02:27:49,190 --> 02:27:52,730
the data center would have for the members of my union. I lost my spot I apologize.

1430
02:28:07,120 --> 02:28:10,400
immense financial benefit the data center would have for the members of my union, and as a result,

1431
02:28:15,190 --> 02:28:17,840
the benefit to our community, due to the tax revenue the data center would generate by providing

1432
02:28:21,140 --> 02:28:24,350
critical resources needed to this town's first responders. Tonight, I would like to address you simply as a member of this great community.

1433
02:28:28,040 --> 02:28:30,860
as I have paid close attention to the progress of the potential for data centers to come to this community,

1434
02:28:33,725 --> 02:28:37,190
I have been nothing short of flabbergasted by the misleading information, convenient admission of the full picture,

1435
02:28:39,215 --> 02:28:41,480
and outright lies the opposition to the approval of the data centers has flooded the media with.

1436
02:28:44,255 --> 02:28:47,465
I have attended town council meetings in person and via live stream. I have listened to the podcast the town has promoted regarding the data centers,

1437
02:28:51,485 --> 02:28:53,150
and I have attended the community meetings, the town hosted to inform members of the community of

1438
02:28:56,360 --> 02:28:56,360
the safeguards the town has implemented with the passage of the data center ordinance.

1439
02:29:00,455 --> 02:29:00,455
I have read many comments on articles and social media posts with

1440
02:29:04,970 --> 02:29:04,970
the specific acronym nimby meaning not in my backyard

1441
02:29:09,020 --> 02:29:09,020
as someone who will quite literally be able to see the data center from their backyard,

1442
02:29:13,325 --> 02:29:16,730
I stand in full support of the approval of this data center, and appreciate the decisions that town council has made this far,

1443
02:29:20,075 --> 02:29:23,450
which has made the town of marana one of the best places to live in, work in, and most importantly raise a family in. Thank you.

1444
02:29:26,480 --> 02:29:26,480
>> thank you. [applause]

1445
02:29:34,940 --> 02:29:37,040
>> the next speaker is perry from, followed by ron stoffer and then brendan sauber.

1446
02:29:51,310 --> 02:29:54,485
>> good evening, mayor, town council. My name is perry from.

1447
02:29:55,775 --> 02:29:58,985
I am a 31-year resident of marana. We have been very happy to live here.

1448
02:30:01,490 --> 02:30:01,490
when we retired, we moved from the west side of i10 over to the east side of i10.

1449
02:30:07,850 --> 02:30:10,790
so we are committed here. From what I have heard,

1450
02:30:13,400 --> 02:30:13,400
there have been some progress made in making this a reasonable project to go forward.

1451
02:30:19,490 --> 02:30:19,490
however, there seems to be still a number of issues that are unresolved,

1452
02:30:24,395 --> 02:30:24,395
and I feel that in regards to campaign contributions,

1453
02:30:30,725 --> 02:30:30,725
that there can be a shall I say lack of objectivity possible in here.

1454
02:30:41,195 --> 02:30:41,195
I would like to see not only a postponement of the vote to get all of the facts,

1455
02:30:46,820 --> 02:30:50,420
but I'd also like to see if we could do this as a referendum and actually let the citizen voters decide this.

1456
02:30:54,125 --> 02:30:57,845
it is our town, you are our elected representatives, but there's a lot of information here and I would like to

1457
02:31:01,640 --> 02:31:01,640
propose looking into having this as a referendum so that the people,

1458
02:31:06,290 --> 02:31:06,290
the town citizens can have their direct input into this very important decision.

1459
02:31:13,850 --> 02:31:13,850
thank you. [applause]

1460
02:31:24,470 --> 02:31:28,390
>> the next speaker is ron stoffer. I apologize for getting that wrong, and then brendan sauber and then amanda wiggins.

1461
02:31:34,990 --> 02:31:37,490
>> good evening, mayor and council. My name is ron stoffer.

1462
02:31:39,410 --> 02:31:39,410
I live and work in southern arizona and much of my work involves thinking about complex,

1463
02:31:44,315 --> 02:31:44,315
economic, and infrastructure decisions over long time horizons.

1464
02:31:49,190 --> 02:31:52,700
I'm not here to debate the technical merits of this project, others are far better positioned to do that.

1465
02:31:54,950 --> 02:31:57,740
what I want to speak to is the kind of decision this is and what it asks of institutions like yours.

1466
02:32:01,340 --> 02:32:01,340
[noise] projects of this scale rarely succeed or fail because of any single feature.

1467
02:32:07,775 --> 02:32:07,775
they succeed or fail based on whether the institutions responsible can hold a fair,

1468
02:32:12,590 --> 02:32:15,125
orderly, fact based process, even in the face of pressure, disagreement, and noise.

1469
02:32:19,070 --> 02:32:19,070
that capacity, the ability to deliberate without collapsing into

1470
02:32:23,210 --> 02:32:23,210
chaos or theatrics is itself a critical form of infrastructure.

1471
02:32:28,745 --> 02:32:31,055
based on the process so far, the town of marana has demonstrated that seriousness,

1472
02:32:34,190 --> 02:32:37,670
creating space for public input, maintaining order, and keeping the focus on long term impacts rather than short term reaction that matters,

1473
02:32:43,625 --> 02:32:43,625
regardless of how any individual feels about this specific proposal.

1474
02:32:48,230 --> 02:32:51,350
my encouragement to you is simply this. Continue to elevate this decision with

1475
02:32:53,900 --> 02:32:53,900
the same steadiness and long term lens you've shown so far.

1476
02:32:58,355 --> 02:33:01,505
decisions like this shape not just outcomes, but trust in institutions,

1477
02:33:03,785 --> 02:33:03,785
and that trust is very hard to rebuild once it is lost.

1478
02:33:08,075 --> 02:33:11,360
thank you for the seriousness with which you're approaching this. [applause]

1479
02:33:17,060 --> 02:33:19,340
>> the next speaker is brendan sauber, followed by amanda wiggins and then keith watkins.

1480
02:33:24,550 --> 02:33:26,600
>> good evening, mayor, vice mayor, and councils.

1481
02:33:28,715 --> 02:33:28,715
my name is brendan sauber and I'm in strong support of the marana data center project.

1482
02:33:34,010 --> 02:33:34,010
as a generational tucson native who attended school here,

1483
02:33:38,675 --> 02:33:40,535
raised a family here, and has two children attending the university of arizona, go-katz [laughter].

1484
02:33:46,550 --> 02:33:48,965
my roots run deep in this community. My wife is also a u of a alumni and a middle school teacher.

1485
02:33:53,720 --> 02:33:53,720
I'm here tonight to speak up for the future opportunities for this town.

1486
02:33:59,930 --> 02:34:02,120
the proposed data center will provide a long term economic strength for marana by generating

1487
02:34:04,910 --> 02:34:04,910
substantial tax revenue to help support essential services such as police,

1488
02:34:10,715 --> 02:34:13,355
fire protection, roads, and parks, while creating significant employment opportunities

1489
02:34:16,190 --> 02:34:18,905
during construction and ongoing operations. The land use for the project is already designated

1490
02:34:22,010 --> 02:34:25,430
for future employment and industrial operations. The land use for

1491
02:34:28,160 --> 02:34:28,160
the project is already designated for future employment industrial operations.

1492
02:34:37,325 --> 02:34:39,935
the land for the project designated currently sits next to 1,000 acre solar farm and gravel facility.

1493
02:34:50,105 --> 02:34:53,960
the project location is not expected to significantly increase traffic or excessive noise pollution in surrounding areas.

1494
02:34:59,600 --> 02:35:03,110
the project will also help extend critical infrastructure such as sewer and drainage that will support future development.

1495
02:35:07,415 --> 02:35:07,415
importantly, this facility is planned as an air cool data center rather

1496
02:35:12,500 --> 02:35:12,500
than a traditional water cooled operation as many have already demonstrated.

1497
02:35:17,570 --> 02:35:21,230
this approach is expected to reduce water use by approximately 95% compared to its current agricultural use.

1498
02:35:26,900 --> 02:35:29,420
this demonstrates responsible planning and clear commitment to the town and surrounding environment.

1499
02:35:34,330 --> 02:35:36,650
this data center represents an important opportunity to advance marana through intelligent growth,

1500
02:35:40,235 --> 02:35:43,100
a business friendly climate and modern infrastructure that will help position this town for future.

1501
02:35:45,830 --> 02:35:47,315
>> thank you very much. >> thank you. >> thank you. [applause] next speaker is amanda wiggins,

1502
02:35:56,210 --> 02:35:57,875
followed by keith watkins. >> mayor, vice mayor, and town council.

1503
02:36:00,860 --> 02:36:00,860
I am so incredibly proud to be raising my beautiful family in this town,

1504
02:36:05,270 --> 02:36:05,270
and I'm so honored to serve as the president and ceo of the marana chamber of commerce.

1505
02:36:09,950 --> 02:36:09,950
we get to represent 800 businesses that are solopreneurs,

1506
02:36:14,825 --> 02:36:16,970
small family owned businesses, and the largest employers in this region.

1507
02:36:19,625 --> 02:36:19,625
together, they create a strong business ecosystem,

1508
02:36:23,735 --> 02:36:25,640
and that lets us all thrive. We really value that here in marana.

1509
02:36:27,830 --> 02:36:29,960
over the past decade, our residents quality of life has exponentially increased.

1510
02:36:34,025 --> 02:36:34,025
the median household income has risen by 14%.

1511
02:36:38,330 --> 02:36:38,330
several crucial infrastructure projects have been completed from pipes in

1512
02:36:42,680 --> 02:36:42,680
the ground to interchange on the interstate and upgrades there as well,

1513
02:36:48,485 --> 02:36:52,085
and our community has even prioritized what's next. Our heroes, the public safety, police,

1514
02:36:55,520 --> 02:36:55,520
and fire departments have expanded and exceeded all levels of service in our community.

1515
02:37:00,785 --> 02:37:03,590
the community has gained a new supermarket, a state of the art recreation center,

1516
02:37:06,140 --> 02:37:06,140
and we have a public school systems that's not only growing, it's thriving.

1517
02:37:10,190 --> 02:37:12,695
we even opened two new schools this year. That success didn't happen by chance.

1518
02:37:15,785 --> 02:37:19,685
that happened because our mayor and council say yes, to growth, they say yes, to economic opportunity,

1519
02:37:23,390 --> 02:37:23,390
and they say yes to progress while also

1520
02:37:27,440 --> 02:37:27,440
putting the right guard rails in place to protect our residents.

1521
02:37:32,345 --> 02:37:35,765
for that leadership, we say sincerely, thank you. With that same appreciation and trust,

1522
02:37:38,195 --> 02:37:41,660
we respectfully ask each of you to vote yes for this project on the luckett north and south data center rezoning.

1523
02:37:46,400 --> 02:37:46,400
the proposed site near panel air park and existing solar fields is well located,

1524
02:37:51,845 --> 02:37:54,815
and it's appropriate for this type of project. Thank you for your service,

1525
02:37:56,495 --> 02:38:00,245
your leadership, and your continued commitment to marana. >> thank you. [applause]

1526
02:38:08,638 --> 02:38:10,880
>> the next speaker is keith watkins, followed by colin millers.

1527
02:38:13,610 --> 02:38:16,655
>> good evening, mayor post, council members. My name is keith watkins.

1528
02:38:18,080 --> 02:38:19,700
I'm the senior vice president for rural economic development at the arizona commerce authority.

1529
02:38:23,270 --> 02:38:23,270
I'm here tonight to express our full support for project luckett and for

1530
02:38:28,460 --> 02:38:31,535
marana's leadership in attracting this next generation digital infrastructure to your community.

1531
02:38:35,750 --> 02:38:39,275
data centers today are an important part of modern life, as we all know.

1532
02:38:40,865 --> 02:38:40,865
they power healthcare, emergency services, cybersecurity systems,

1533
02:38:45,140 --> 02:38:45,140
and even small business tools that communities rely on every single day.

1534
02:38:50,285 --> 02:38:52,070
in short, data centers are, in fact, critical infrastructure.

1535
02:38:54,350 --> 02:38:54,350
just like roads, water, power, and sewer.

1536
02:38:58,505 --> 02:38:58,505
this project represents a major opportunity for marana to

1537
02:39:02,540 --> 02:39:02,540
secure long term economic value for the community and the region.

1538
02:39:07,760 --> 02:39:09,590
over the first ten years, this project is projected to generate $407 million in combined state, county,

1539
02:39:15,020 --> 02:39:16,550
and local tax revenue, including $145 million directly to the town of marana.

1540
02:39:21,245 --> 02:39:21,245
beyond those revenues, the project brings good paying quality jobs for arizona.

1541
02:39:26,195 --> 02:39:28,310
that's what we're all about. Approximately, 4,200 construction jobs will be created over

1542
02:39:31,970 --> 02:39:35,495
the next decade along with 400 permanent high quality jobs. The project also includes apprenticeship partnerships and on the job training.

1543
02:39:40,565 --> 02:39:40,565
giving local residents tangible pathways to build careers is this growing industry.

1544
02:39:48,215 --> 02:39:48,215
importantly, the project has committed to a closed loop cooling technology,

1545
02:39:52,220 --> 02:39:54,725
ensuring this facility is built responsibly, sustainably and aligned with the region's long term needs.

1546
02:39:59,570 --> 02:40:03,320
this mirrors a national trend where the most advanced data centers are moving forward to next generation low impact cooling solutions.

1547
02:40:07,925 --> 02:40:07,925
communities that embrace digital infrastructure are strengthening their tax base,

1548
02:40:12,125 --> 02:40:12,125
expanding their workforce opportunities and improving their national competitiveness.

1549
02:40:17,030 --> 02:40:17,030
I thank you for your time and consideration of the item before you tonight.

1550
02:40:21,755 --> 02:40:21,755
>> thank you very much. [applause]

1551
02:40:28,850 --> 02:40:32,840
>> the next speaker is colin millers, followed by dan streeter. >> mr. Mayor, town counsel.

1552
02:40:34,745 --> 02:40:38,585
my name is colin millers, and I've been a marana resident for the last six years. I possess a bachelor's of

1553
02:40:39,860 --> 02:40:43,460
science and mechanical engineering and a masters of engineering and systems engineering, and in a 20 plus year career,

1554
02:40:45,155 --> 02:40:47,990
have experienced in the design, architecture, development, and delivery of large scale complex systems,

1555
02:40:50,180 --> 02:40:52,700
including ai technology and healthcare. I attended the december 10 planning meeting that was going

1556
02:40:56,360 --> 02:40:59,585
on and was surprised that I hadn't heard much about this before, so I came down to understand what was going on.

1557
02:41:02,360 --> 02:41:05,705
and I wanted to better understand this for myself. I appreciate that the overall ordinance in place is a really good first step.

1558
02:41:09,920 --> 02:41:12,785
but from a systems engineering perspective, details matter, and there are critical gaps in the requirements that it sets forth that allow

1559
02:41:16,085 --> 02:41:19,775
loopholes to be viewed and exploited. Key terms and definitions in the ordinance such as emergency and peak are left undefined.

1560
02:41:26,405 --> 02:41:30,320
while they may contain colloquial definitions in engineering context, and very specific applications,

1561
02:41:31,820 --> 02:41:31,820
these words have very specific meanings underneath it.

1562
02:41:36,005 --> 02:41:36,005
additionally, the town should re examine its current compliance mechanisms.

1563
02:41:40,430 --> 02:41:40,430
thousands of dollar of fines per day per violation may significantly

1564
02:41:44,990 --> 02:41:47,060
impact businesses and our experience with commercial and residential and industrial customers so far.

1565
02:41:50,660 --> 02:41:50,660
companies capitalize in the tens of billions of dollars seen around the country,

1566
02:41:55,340 --> 02:41:58,355
view these fines as the cost of doing business. I asked this body to join communities around the country and enact

1567
02:42:01,970 --> 02:42:05,930
a moratorium on this project and similar projects. Take the time to consult

1568
02:42:07,415 --> 02:42:10,310
independent unbiased experts to answer critical technical questions and refine technical details.

1569
02:42:13,790 --> 02:42:13,790
take the time to improve the definition and structure of the ordinance,

1570
02:42:18,125 --> 02:42:21,140
drive outreach, engage with the community, and ultimately put this decision to the people.

1571
02:42:23,555 --> 02:42:23,555
six people making a decision on a project of this magnitude,

1572
02:42:28,580 --> 02:42:32,270
which affects all of us feels wrong. This should be a decision that the entire town.

1573
02:42:34,190 --> 02:42:36,905
you've done a lot of work, but we should all make this decision. >> thank you. [applause]

1574
02:42:44,390 --> 02:42:46,970
>> next speaker is dan streeter, followed by dr. Tomas diaz de la rubia.

1575
02:42:50,920 --> 02:42:50,920
>> good evening. Mayor, members of the council and town staff.

1576
02:42:56,120 --> 02:42:59,930
my name is dan streeter, and I am proud to serve this community as the superintendent of the marana unified school district.

1577
02:43:03,050 --> 02:43:03,050
I am here tonight to speak in support of the proposed project,

1578
02:43:07,670 --> 02:43:07,670
but more importantly, I'm here to speak in support of the leadership of this town.

1579
02:43:12,980 --> 02:43:12,980
we are all aware of the narrative surrounding data centers.

1580
02:43:17,270 --> 02:43:19,925
these concerns are not unfounded. However, I appreciate the difference in

1581
02:43:23,360 --> 02:43:23,360
the diligent marana specific work that is being done here.

1582
02:43:27,815 --> 02:43:29,525
I have seen the careful, exhaustive research conducted by our council and our town staff.

1583
02:43:33,635 --> 02:43:37,040
I have seen the commitment to our future workforce and the intentional that sets this project apart.

1584
02:43:41,255 --> 02:43:44,015
while I do support this project, my primary purpose tonight is to voice my support for each of you.

1585
02:43:49,145 --> 02:43:52,775
in a time when public discourse can be difficult, I have consistently witnessed the professionalism displayed by this body.

1586
02:43:58,280 --> 02:43:58,280
I appreciate the way that you have considered diverse perspectives

1587
02:44:02,330 --> 02:44:02,330
and the unwavering commitment that you show to the town of marana as a whole.

1588
02:44:06,875 --> 02:44:06,875
it is clear to me that your decisions are guided by what is best for the next generation,

1589
02:44:12,935 --> 02:44:16,115
not just what is easy in the moment. I thank you for your service.

1590
02:44:18,215 --> 02:44:20,345
I thank you for your transparency, and I thank you for your dedication to keeping

1591
02:44:23,600 --> 02:44:27,590
marana a premier place to live, learn, and work. I trust your process and I trust your leadership. Thank you.

1592
02:44:31,670 --> 02:44:31,670
>> thank you. [applause]

1593
02:44:39,050 --> 02:44:42,260
>> the next speaker is dr. Tomas diaz de la rubia, followed by brittany freeman.

1594
02:44:44,150 --> 02:44:46,280
>> good evening, mayor post, vice mayor ziegler, council members.

1595
02:44:48,440 --> 02:44:50,660
thank you, for the opportunity to be here. My name is tomas diaz de la rubia.

1596
02:44:52,445 --> 02:44:52,445
I'm the senior vice president for research and partnerships at the university of arizona.

1597
02:44:58,055 --> 02:44:59,885
at the university of arizona, we're using and artificial intelligence to

1598
02:45:02,450 --> 02:45:05,210
train the next generation of citizens and leaders for the n. We're using this to address challenges that matter to arizonans.

1599
02:45:11,420 --> 02:45:13,610
to lead this work, we need to have the systems and

1600
02:45:16,520 --> 02:45:20,450
the infrastructure that power the innovations of the future. The data center industry represents

1601
02:45:23,135 --> 02:45:26,105
today a significant infrastructure investment globally, which is expected to reach close to $1 billion by 2030 around the world.

1602
02:45:31,550 --> 02:45:34,700
the multiple effect of a single new data center on local communities as we heard today is tremendous.

1603
02:45:37,385 --> 02:45:37,385
the economic impact in strengthening the local tax base and attracting

1604
02:45:41,735 --> 02:45:41,735
complementary innovation ecosystems is what the future is about.

1605
02:45:47,045 --> 02:45:49,340
those are amazing outcromes. But I believe that the chance to make southern arizona a hub of

1606
02:45:53,210 --> 02:45:55,580
high tech innovation is one of the most exciting opportunities that we create by building data centers here.

1607
02:46:00,290 --> 02:46:02,435
at the university of arizona, we launch about 15 new start up companies a year with

1608
02:46:06,290 --> 02:46:06,290
innovations and intellectual property that come out of our students and our faculty.

1609
02:46:10,760 --> 02:46:10,760
since 2017, we have created about $1.6 billion in

1610
02:46:15,950 --> 02:46:18,080
economic output from the commercialization of the technologies that we develop at the university.

1611
02:46:21,170 --> 02:46:23,120
today, and in the future, those technologies are increasingly based on data and artificial intelligence.

1612
02:46:29,255 --> 02:46:29,255
at the university, where one of a handful of universities in the nation that has

1613
02:46:33,530 --> 02:46:33,530
a chief artificial intelligence and data science officer that is driving the effort to

1614
02:46:39,260 --> 02:46:41,540
bring responsible uses of data and artificial intelligence to our students and our researchers.

1615
02:46:45,575 --> 02:46:47,750
in addition to the start ups, we have research initiatives center on ai that as I said before, benefit arizonans.

1616
02:46:52,955 --> 02:46:52,955
today, data infrastructure is no longer optional, it is foundational.

1617
02:46:57,800 --> 02:47:00,530
it's where we attract the future investors and the venture capital and the high tech companies to the region here. Thank you.

1618
02:47:05,060 --> 02:47:05,060
>> thank you very much. [applause]

1619
02:47:12,650 --> 02:47:14,570
>> the next speaker is brittany freeman, followed by chuck allman.

1620
02:47:17,200 --> 02:47:20,210
>> good evening, mayor, vice mayor, council members, and fellow community members.

1621
02:47:22,610 --> 02:47:26,375
my name is brittany freeman. I'm a tech student and property owner here in marana, as well as a homeowner and resident in tucson.

1622
02:47:28,940 --> 02:47:28,940
the decisions made here tonight affect all of us in the greater tucson region,

1623
02:47:33,020 --> 02:47:35,465
and we share the same aquifer, same power grid and fragile desert environment.

1624
02:47:38,135 --> 02:47:38,135
I'm here to respectfully urge you to deny the rezoning applications

1625
02:47:42,170 --> 02:47:42,170
for the proposed 600 acre locket road north and south data center campus.

1626
02:47:46,645 --> 02:47:50,605
this project may promise thousands of temporary construction jobs, but tucson already has a stable construction workforce of over 20,000 jobs,

1627
02:47:55,580 --> 02:47:59,420
and our overall employment growth has been flat or declining in recent years. We don't need a short term spike in

1628
02:48:01,250 --> 02:48:04,410
construction activity that disappears once the buildings are up. Those temporary jobs come at a permanent cost.

1629
02:48:07,360 --> 02:48:11,185
massive strain on our limited water and energy resources. It's important to understand that the use of the air

1630
02:48:13,780 --> 02:48:17,100
cooling at the data center will not eliminate the water problem. It will only shift the burden upstream.

1631
02:48:19,655 --> 02:48:23,330
these facilities demand enormous electricity around the clock, and much of that energy comes from

1632
02:48:24,980 --> 02:48:27,905
power plants that use large amount of water for cooling. With indirect usage, the data center would potentially consume

1633
02:48:31,205 --> 02:48:31,205
over 60% more water overall than the current farm land,

1634
02:48:35,285 --> 02:48:39,200
not 95 or 98% less as bill claims. This massive power consumption also drives up demand on our grid.

1635
02:48:44,015 --> 02:48:47,480
potentially leading to higher electricity rates for residents and families who already struggle to pay more during our hottest months.

1636
02:48:50,840 --> 02:48:50,840
additionally, replacing active farm land with this industrial use risk polluting

1637
02:48:55,850 --> 02:48:57,890
surrounding fields through dust and runoff during construction and generator emissions after.

1638
02:49:01,655 --> 02:49:05,390
rezoning would permanently convert this farmland to industrial use, and irreversible loss in

1639
02:49:08,435 --> 02:49:08,435
a region already seeing precious ag land disappear to development.

1640
02:49:12,545 --> 02:49:16,385
please listen to the voices here tonight and across the region. Deny this rezoning to protect our shared resources and keep

1641
02:49:20,480 --> 02:49:20,480
energy affordable and prioritize truly sustainable growth here in marana.

1642
02:49:24,725 --> 02:49:26,300
thank you for your time and consideration. >> thank you. [applause].

1643
02:49:31,250 --> 02:49:34,505
>> [noise] next is chuck allman, followed by michael gyman.

1644
02:49:37,055 --> 02:49:39,425
>> good evening, mayor, vice mayor. Council. Really excited to be here tonight.

1645
02:49:42,545 --> 02:49:45,215
ben really digging into this thing. Tonight was really interesting to listen to all the different sides of it,

1646
02:49:48,665 --> 02:49:50,675
did not change the way I feel, and I think the way my kids feel about being here in marana, my name is chuck allman.

1647
02:49:56,660 --> 02:49:58,430
I have a copier company here. We've had it for 25 years in marana.

1648
02:50:00,770 --> 02:50:03,350
that's a long time for business to be here. We're excited about the opportunity for marana to grow.

1649
02:50:07,280 --> 02:50:09,365
our kids can stay here. More importantly, my grandkids can stay here.

1650
02:50:12,305 --> 02:50:12,305
but with that, the way that we're growing now,

1651
02:50:18,575 --> 02:50:18,575
we're going to lose to phoenix all the time and we're seeing it daily in tucson.

1652
02:50:23,495 --> 02:50:27,080
tucson is getting taken over by phoenix. You've got to do is look around. You see it.

1653
02:50:29,105 --> 02:50:32,420
more six oh two numbers running around than there is 520. I'm hoping that this goes.

1654
02:50:34,190 --> 02:50:36,440
I'm hoping that this works out for all of us. Thank you guys for the opportunity.

1655
02:50:38,270 --> 02:50:39,560
I hope we all do the right thing. [applause]

1656
02:50:45,500 --> 02:50:49,325
>> the next speaker is michael gyman followed by david morals. >> mayor post, vice mayor ziegler, non town council.

1657
02:50:53,810 --> 02:50:55,310
my name is michael gyman. I'm with the chamber of southern arizona and speaking in favor of the locket road project.

1658
02:51:00,970 --> 02:51:00,970
I've worked in economic development for many years and worked on a lot of projects.

1659
02:51:07,835 --> 02:51:07,835
actually, none of those projects have done what this project has done,

1660
02:51:12,845 --> 02:51:15,590
and that has taken zero local incentives, which could include county incentives.

1661
02:51:17,780 --> 02:51:19,595
in fact, they're doing the opposite. They are paying into the system for

1662
02:51:23,330 --> 02:51:26,975
infrastructure improvements and deeding some of that back to the city. Additionally, you have set yourself up for

1663
02:51:29,930 --> 02:51:29,930
success by passing and adopting the data center ordinance.

1664
02:51:35,210 --> 02:51:39,110
this is a very important step, the first step in this region, as was stated earlier,

1665
02:51:41,105 --> 02:51:41,105
this follows the ordinance 100%.

1666
02:51:46,220 --> 02:51:46,220
say yes to thousands of new jobs in this region,

1667
02:51:51,110 --> 02:51:52,820
most of those construction jobs, which will stay local as opposed to leaving this region to find work elsewhere.

1668
02:51:58,265 --> 02:52:00,740
say yes to economic development and the largest capital investment in southern arizona's history.

1669
02:52:04,865 --> 02:52:07,955
a recent report that was alluded to earlier, states that this region is dipping into negative economic growth territory.

1670
02:52:13,145 --> 02:52:13,145
jurisdictions need to say yes to these projects more than saying no.

1671
02:52:18,305 --> 02:52:18,305
and say yes to the new tax revenue that will be generated by this project,

1672
02:52:24,890 --> 02:52:27,155
millions of dollars annually, that will be used to bolster the already great services that this council provides.

1673
02:52:35,045 --> 02:52:35,045
follow the recommendation from the unanimous recommendation from

1674
02:52:39,770 --> 02:52:39,770
the planning commission and vote in favor of the luca road project. Thank you.

1675
02:52:44,930 --> 02:52:44,930
>> thank you. [applause]

1676
02:52:51,800 --> 02:52:55,565
>> the next speaker is david morals, followed by ted maxwell, and then robert nil.

1677
02:53:08,630 --> 02:53:10,665
>> david? What happened? >> yes, I'm okay. This morning at 9:00,

1678
02:53:15,300 --> 02:53:15,300
I went to the va hospital and I had a eye operation on my right eye.

1679
02:53:22,880 --> 02:53:22,880
I went in at 9:00 and it was released at 12:00.

1680
02:53:28,920 --> 02:53:28,920
the reason I'm here this is too big to stay home.

1681
02:53:35,900 --> 02:53:35,900
marana has two big big items that has saved the town.

1682
02:53:43,185 --> 02:53:46,740
the first one is tax value. Now you got to remember in 1990 the town didn't have this revenue,

1683
02:53:52,860 --> 02:53:54,135
didn't have the people, and the only thing that was going to save it was we hit to

1684
02:53:58,260 --> 02:53:58,260
have tax value in our city limits or town limits should I

1685
02:54:03,540 --> 02:54:03,540
say the town when I became a council member was the only 11 square miles.

1686
02:54:13,650 --> 02:54:17,645
I was a council member from '87-'91, and the council wanted to increase the tax,

1687
02:54:23,420 --> 02:54:25,250
make a property tax, and I told him it's not going to work.

1688
02:54:27,695 --> 02:54:27,695
anyway, what happened was the console went ahead

1689
02:54:33,390 --> 02:54:33,390
and put it on the ballot and went down 85-15, no vote.

1690
02:54:39,300 --> 02:54:42,030
don't even try to put a property tax. I'm telling you what will happen, 85-15.

1691
02:54:45,770 --> 02:54:45,770
in the process, they told me, david,

1692
02:54:50,070 --> 02:54:50,070
you were the one that this thing failed,

1693
02:54:54,585 --> 02:54:57,740
so come up with something different. I figured tax value, ina road,

1694
02:55:03,600 --> 02:55:03,600
orange grove, dale that area is nothing but business, sales tax.

1695
02:55:08,640 --> 02:55:08,640
that's what I wanted. What happened was I ran out of time.

1696
02:55:14,370 --> 02:55:16,350
my council expired. But the town when I left,

1697
02:55:23,850 --> 02:55:23,850
I said, I don't have no more time,

1698
02:55:29,805 --> 02:55:33,300
but I need for you guys to vote for tax valley. They voted for tax valley,

1699
02:55:35,475 --> 02:55:38,340
and here we are. If eddie honey was here,

1700
02:55:41,235 --> 02:55:43,305
if mahorn was here, they would tell you that's what saved the town tax valley.

1701
02:55:47,220 --> 02:55:47,220
prior to that, the only tax we had was mcdonald's.

1702
02:55:51,570 --> 02:55:51,570
you can imagine, as far

1703
02:55:55,980 --> 02:55:55,980
as threats of recall, anything else?

1704
02:56:04,460 --> 02:56:04,460
all I can tell you is cano ranch was the first thing that went on the ballot. It passed.

1705
02:56:14,895 --> 02:56:14,895
the council of 87-91,

1706
02:56:20,355 --> 02:56:20,355
we told the town marana is growing and it is going to stay growing.

1707
02:56:25,035 --> 02:56:25,035
I hope you do the right thing and vote for this thing because we need the jobs.

1708
02:56:30,435 --> 02:56:31,155
>> thank you, david. >> thank you.[applause]

1709
02:56:39,180 --> 02:56:42,765
>> the next speaker is ted maxwell, followed by robert nil, and then cesar corral.

1710
02:56:47,900 --> 02:56:50,565
>> general maxwell, welcome. Mayor [inaudible].

1711
02:56:52,050 --> 02:56:55,140
>> vice mayor ziegler, members of the council. Thank you for this opportunity. I'm ted maxwell, the president and ceo of the southern arizona leadership council.

1712
02:56:59,265 --> 02:56:59,265
I represent more than 150 ceos and business leaders from this region.

1713
02:57:04,575 --> 02:57:07,245
I'm here tonight to advocate for your approval. Now, some people hear the word data centers,

1714
02:57:09,615 --> 02:57:12,675
and they think it's just a building full of servers. But that's not what we're talking about tonight.

1715
02:57:14,280 --> 02:57:17,640
we're talking about the backbone of the modern economy. Every industry, whether it's healthcare,

1716
02:57:21,135 --> 02:57:25,110
or hospitals, aerospace, logistics, education. Yes, even our small local businesses rely on having

1717
02:57:29,280 --> 02:57:31,770
an efficient digital infrastructure and secure digital infrastructure to operate as do we.

1718
02:57:36,125 --> 02:57:38,945
many of, if not all of us in this room, depend on data centers.

1719
02:57:41,655 --> 02:57:43,785
for our connections to our cell phones, with our computers, to the internet,

1720
02:57:46,440 --> 02:57:48,870
our vehicles, both gas and electric, all rely on that connectivity with data centers for everything we do.

1721
02:57:54,500 --> 02:57:57,990
when we welcome responsible data center investment, and you have taken every step possible to make a responsible decision tonight.

1722
02:58:05,295 --> 02:58:05,295
we are positioned marana at the center of that economic engine.

1723
02:58:09,540 --> 02:58:11,295
in a fast changing world, strong digital infrastructure is not a luxury,

1724
02:58:14,790 --> 02:58:14,790
it's a necessity, and that includes on national security issues.

1725
02:58:19,680 --> 02:58:19,680
we need it in our country and we need it close to where we are at times.

1726
02:58:24,450 --> 02:58:28,200
data centers bring high quality well paying jobs. You've heard all that. But the benefits are much farther reaching than a single project or a data center.

1727
02:58:34,065 --> 02:58:34,065
your approval tonight will send a powerful message to other employers.

1728
02:58:39,255 --> 02:58:41,430
marana is open for business. We're ready to innovate,

1729
02:58:43,575 --> 02:58:43,575
and we are prepared to build a stable economic future for our community.

1730
02:58:48,450 --> 02:58:52,065
tonight, I'm asking you just thank bigger to thank long term. Choose progress, choose a stronger future

1731
02:58:55,515 --> 02:58:58,410
and choose prosperity for marana and the region. Thank you. >> thank you.[applause]

1732
02:59:07,200 --> 02:59:10,740
>> the next speaker is robert nil, followed by cesar corral, and then susan dumont.

1733
02:59:13,610 --> 02:59:13,610
>> good evening mayor, vice mayor, and council members.

1734
02:59:20,930 --> 02:59:23,865
I'm from the area, and I've been aware of this project and I wanted to become a

1735
02:59:27,840 --> 02:59:31,830
little more educated on it this evening and you've done that. You've really opened my eyes and confirmed

1736
02:59:35,175 --> 02:59:35,175
what I put in a letter to the mayor's office earlier this week.

1737
02:59:39,360 --> 02:59:43,280
I'd like to read some from it, if I may. Marana has been run by a forward thinking group of

1738
02:59:48,480 --> 02:59:48,480
competent people with an eye to expansion in the future.

1739
02:59:53,790 --> 02:59:53,790
this proposed data center will make future expansion possible for marana,

1740
02:59:59,220 --> 02:59:59,220
along with creating jobs and bringing in a consistent revenue flow.

1741
03:00:04,365 --> 03:00:04,365
I'm currently a resident of tucson and have been for some time.

1742
03:00:10,515 --> 03:00:14,160
I've watched marana expand and grow with the residents being cared for by the local government.

1743
03:00:19,305 --> 03:00:19,305
I've lived through tucson's fumbling and tripping over

1744
03:00:23,580 --> 03:00:23,580
themselves in almost everything they directly try to do.

1745
03:00:29,475 --> 03:00:29,475
my wife and I have owned a business in tucson and have sold it.

1746
03:00:34,905 --> 03:00:38,280
we have decided that we would like to move to the marana area from what we see being done for its future.

1747
03:00:43,530 --> 03:00:43,530
the expansion of our business plan and becoming involved in progress of the city.

1748
03:00:52,185 --> 03:00:52,185
the data center are essentially to daily life by power and healthcare,

1749
03:01:00,690 --> 03:01:04,350
public, safety, communications, ecommerce, and digital systems that keep businesses competitive and families connected.

1750
03:01:10,560 --> 03:01:13,560
we've heard that over and over tonight, but it is the basics.

1751
03:01:16,550 --> 03:01:16,550
your forward thinking, please be smart in approving this project.

1752
03:01:23,415 --> 03:01:26,700
approving this project, puts marana in a position to capture all of the noted benefits while

1753
03:01:31,140 --> 03:01:34,830
protecting your community resources and bringing long term tax revenue that will help fund schools,

1754
03:01:38,925 --> 03:01:38,925
police, fire, roads, and your outstanding parks.

1755
03:01:43,485 --> 03:01:47,280
>> thank you very much, sir. Appreciate that. Thank you.[applause] >> the next speaker is cesar corral,

1756
03:01:55,365 --> 03:01:57,510
followed by susan dumont. >> good evening, mayor post,

1757
03:01:59,565 --> 03:02:02,475
vice mayor ziegler, and honorable members of the council. Thank you for the opportunity to speak tonight.

1758
03:02:04,605 --> 03:02:08,310
my name is cesar corral with the western states carpenters local 1912, and I'm here in strong support of item a2.

1759
03:02:10,800 --> 03:02:14,280
I want to start with the recommended referendum by a previous speaker. Here's a problem with that.

1760
03:02:15,855 --> 03:02:18,810
when we build houses, we don't ask for the credit. The real estate developer can have that.

1761
03:02:20,745 --> 03:02:23,745
when we build the schools, your children, and some of you still attend, we don't ask for credit.

1762
03:02:25,125 --> 03:02:25,125
when we make the hospitals, we take our loved ones to. We don't ask for credit.

1763
03:02:29,655 --> 03:02:33,420
we don't ask to be seen or for any of acknowledgment, let alone anything at all.

1764
03:02:34,800 --> 03:02:38,325
there's a reason for this in my opinion. I think that's because as workers, we need nothing more than to get what we earned and come back to our families.

1765
03:02:41,880 --> 03:02:41,880
this is why I'm up here right now.

1766
03:02:51,620 --> 03:02:51,620
after hearing from the utilities that our rates would not increase,

1767
03:02:56,630 --> 03:02:59,250
and finding an opportunity here at home, I jumped at the chance to spend the holidays with my nana again.

1768
03:03:02,130 --> 03:03:03,795
it's sad but true, that here we are again in big colorful vests and still very few people see us.

1769
03:03:08,115 --> 03:03:10,620
I wish the opposition did not forget about people like me who have a real benefit from projects like this,

1770
03:03:13,335 --> 03:03:16,530
rather than remembering campaign finances that are irrelevant. I'm not here to have a punch line in a big applause.

1771
03:03:19,020 --> 03:03:21,630
I'm here because my life actually depends on this. I'm sure those of you with members of

1772
03:03:23,400 --> 03:03:25,830
your family in the military can relate to the empty feeling of seeing that seat empty at the thanksgiving table or christmas or birthdays.

1773
03:03:30,135 --> 03:03:33,120
that seat unfortunately at my family table is mine. Project outside of our local area is unfortunately the normal for us.

1774
03:03:36,705 --> 03:03:38,505
that means time away from our families, long commutes, and instability that most people never have to even think about.

1775
03:03:43,035 --> 03:03:46,005
it should never mean I don't have to choose between providing for my family and being there for them.

1776
03:03:49,530 --> 03:03:52,590
I respectfully urge you to support item a2. I thank you for your time and for considering the voices

1777
03:03:55,380 --> 03:03:55,380
of local workers like myself.[applause]

1778
03:04:06,840 --> 03:04:08,865
>> the next speaker is susan dumont, followed by sean blubaum.

1779
03:04:12,440 --> 03:04:15,660
>> good evening, vice mayor, members of the council.

1780
03:04:17,265 --> 03:04:20,055
that was tough to follow. But I'll do my best.

1781
03:04:21,825 --> 03:04:23,655
my name is susan dumont. I'm the chief economic development officer for the chamber of southern arizona,

1782
03:04:28,185 --> 03:04:31,770
and I'm here today on behalf of myself, our board of directors,

1783
03:04:33,090 --> 03:04:33,090
and our 1,400 members to express support for this project.

1784
03:04:37,590 --> 03:04:40,050
as someone working in economic development, I'm inclined to highlight the capital investment,

1785
03:04:42,450 --> 03:04:44,145
the new jobs created, repeat the economic and fiscal impacts on

1786
03:04:46,530 --> 03:04:49,950
the town of marana and really the entire region. That's where we tend to go.

1787
03:04:52,410 --> 03:04:52,410
I do hang on to that 145 million in

1788
03:04:57,330 --> 03:04:57,330
projected revenue for the town over the first 10 years of the project.

1789
03:05:02,865 --> 03:05:05,145
I think numbers like that are tough. What kind of revenue does that really mean for

1790
03:05:07,740 --> 03:05:11,625
the town of marana and its residents and businesses? It's a big number.

1791
03:05:13,095 --> 03:05:15,450
I don't know what $145 million looks like. Maybe some of you do, but I don't think so.

1792
03:05:17,580 --> 03:05:17,580
I tried to break that down into what could be funded with

1793
03:05:21,630 --> 03:05:24,750
those tax revenues for one year in the town of morana based on your fiscal year '26 budget?

1794
03:05:28,485 --> 03:05:28,485
one year of tax revenue from this project would nearly

1795
03:05:32,850 --> 03:05:32,850
fund the entire parks and recreation department for fiscal year '26.

1796
03:05:38,295 --> 03:05:41,970
alternatively, one year of tax revenue could be used to fund more than 60% of the police department budget.

1797
03:05:45,630 --> 03:05:48,330
that's about 100 police officers. As someone who previously worked for local government,

1798
03:05:51,405 --> 03:05:54,525
I know that the services residents expect, such as great parks and a responsive police department don't pay for themselves.

1799
03:06:00,060 --> 03:06:00,060
primarily, they're funded through tax revenues generated by businesses,

1800
03:06:05,250 --> 03:06:08,745
residents, and visitors in this community. As elected leaders of this community,

1801
03:06:11,370 --> 03:06:14,865
you must be thoughtful and pragmatic in your decision making, weighing the pros and cons of the decisions you make on behalf of your constituents.

1802
03:06:19,650 --> 03:06:22,725
the benefits of this project are significant and they far outweigh the potential negative impacts.

1803
03:06:25,455 --> 03:06:28,170
encourage you to support this project and vote, yes. >> thank you.[applause]

1804
03:06:35,640 --> 03:06:37,545
>> the next speaker is sean blubaum, followed by albert via pando.

1805
03:06:46,070 --> 03:06:48,915
>> thanks. Good evening, mayor post, vice mayor ziegler, and council members.

1806
03:06:50,970 --> 03:06:54,690
my name is sean blubaum. I am a construction industry professional, and I've been a business leader here in arizona for 25 years.

1807
03:06:58,470 --> 03:07:01,170
I'm here tonight to voice my strong support for the proposed lat road data center project.

1808
03:07:04,485 --> 03:07:07,455
from a construction standpoint, you've heard it from a lot of people. This project represents exactly the kind of

1809
03:07:09,660 --> 03:07:09,660
long term responsible development our local workforce needs.

1810
03:07:13,755 --> 03:07:16,260
the data center is projected to generate thousands of construction jobs for the next 5-10 years,

1811
03:07:18,615 --> 03:07:21,225
including opportunities for skilled trades, apprenticeships, on on the job training.

1812
03:07:23,490 --> 03:07:23,490
in our industry, projects of this scale provide steady career sustaining work.

1813
03:07:29,220 --> 03:07:29,220
for those that talk about construction jobs is temporary,

1814
03:07:33,765 --> 03:07:36,360
I'm someone I don't have to travel anymore, but I traveled for several years while my kids were little, and I was not there.

1815
03:07:41,190 --> 03:07:43,305
it was because there wasn't local work. As someone who's done that 4,000 plus jobs for 5-10 years,

1816
03:07:46,590 --> 03:07:50,160
that's life changing for our local workforce. This development also brings

1817
03:07:52,440 --> 03:07:56,205
significant infrastructure construction that benefits our whole region. Water and sewer extensions, road improvements,

1818
03:07:58,665 --> 03:08:02,295
including the lockett road extension and regional drainage improvements. These investments, open doors for future employment and industrial growth

1819
03:08:06,450 --> 03:08:06,450
while strengthening marana's overall construction and infrastructure capacity.

1820
03:08:10,935 --> 03:08:14,265
just as important, it's been thoughtfully planned. Why create zoning requirements and then check

1821
03:08:17,280 --> 03:08:17,280
all the boxes and then question if it should be allowed.

1822
03:08:21,435 --> 03:08:24,390
isn't that the point of having the requirements? It's located in an area already designated for industrial use.

1823
03:08:28,155 --> 03:08:28,155
it minimizes traffic once operational and complies with marana's ordinance.

1824
03:08:32,445 --> 03:08:36,300
data centers are an integral part of the modern economy. They fuel essential industries.. Every business uses it.

1825
03:08:40,800 --> 03:08:43,575
we all use computers. We all use phones. They're part of our modern economy,

1826
03:08:45,810 --> 03:08:49,500
whether we want them there or not. They're essential now and in the future. For those of us in construction,

1827
03:08:51,210 --> 03:08:51,210
it's stable work, allowing our families to live and work in marana.

1828
03:08:55,635 --> 03:08:58,650
I encourage you to please vote yes and allow marana to continue to build our future the right way. Thank you.

1829
03:09:01,665 --> 03:09:01,665
>> thank you.[applause]

1830
03:09:09,240 --> 03:09:11,775
>> the next speaker is albert via pando, and then michelle mccarthy.

1831
03:09:18,140 --> 03:09:20,955
>> mayor, council members. Thank you for the chance of letting me speak here today.

1832
03:09:23,895 --> 03:09:26,160
my name is albert via pando, I'm a proud member of local 359.

1833
03:09:29,070 --> 03:09:31,320
here today in strong support of bill infrastructure data center project because for working families like ours,

1834
03:09:36,435 --> 03:09:36,435
projects like this are about more than development and their jobs,

1835
03:09:41,265 --> 03:09:44,280
stability, stay employed, here at home. We want to focus a little bit about being at home. I don't know how to follow ups.

1836
03:09:49,245 --> 03:09:52,440
that was really good, but some of these other folks are bringing up about the local members working here at home,

1837
03:09:57,015 --> 03:09:57,015
85-90% of our local members with local 359 are working in the valley.

1838
03:10:02,295 --> 03:10:06,210
that's 2-3 hour drive time one way, working 10, 12 hour days and then doing the same commute back. That's long.

1839
03:10:10,740 --> 03:10:10,740
that's 14-16 hour days on the road and at work and away from your families.

1840
03:10:17,430 --> 03:10:17,430
the other 10-15% are either not working or working at a state.

1841
03:10:23,280 --> 03:10:25,620
we need this project here in marana. We need this project here in southern arizona,

1842
03:10:27,945 --> 03:10:29,880
and I hope you approve this. Thank you. >> thank you.[applause]

1843
03:10:37,644 --> 03:10:39,785
>> the next speaker is michelle mccarthy, followed by fernando lebron and brian pena.

1844
03:10:42,935 --> 03:10:46,265
>> well, mr. Mayor, vice mayor. Town council. Thank you for having me speak.

1845
03:10:47,990 --> 03:10:47,990
I am in whole percent for this project.

1846
03:10:52,745 --> 03:10:52,745
we are a big city here in tucson and surrounding neighborhoods.

1847
03:10:57,770 --> 03:11:00,785
but there is no work. There's no union work. I've been a union sheet metal worker for over 12 years.

1848
03:11:03,650 --> 03:11:06,185
my husband 30 plus years, one of my sons just started,

1849
03:11:08,735 --> 03:11:12,215
but we have to travel over two hours each way. I got up at two o'clock this morning,

1850
03:11:13,850 --> 03:11:15,575
so forgive me if I'm all tired. But to get to work by five.

1851
03:11:19,340 --> 03:11:19,340
anyway, I really want this here.

1852
03:11:23,360 --> 03:11:23,360
I believe we deserve to have viable jobs here. There's nothing.

1853
03:11:29,495 --> 03:11:29,495
there's no work.

1854
03:11:35,530 --> 03:11:39,310
let's see. I have 107. Anyway, I know what it's like everywhere else.

1855
03:11:43,460 --> 03:11:45,170
I've looked into different things. I thought because I wanted to stay by my family.

1856
03:11:48,275 --> 03:11:51,200
I wanted to stay my elderly dad. I wanted to help him out more and I wanted to stay here,

1857
03:11:54,905 --> 03:11:56,885
and I still do. But I mean, I looked at other jobs,

1858
03:11:59,650 --> 03:12:01,600
and I actually worked outside my field for a year working two jobs to try to make ends meet,

1859
03:12:05,350 --> 03:12:07,095
and it didn't cover. I just did it. I saw what it's like everywhere.

1860
03:12:10,535 --> 03:12:10,535
I have other experience working on diesel mechanics, air boeing airplanes.

1861
03:12:16,385 --> 03:12:16,385
I have a lot of skills that I could have gone to, but there's just no money.

1862
03:12:21,905 --> 03:12:24,470
it boils down to money. We need some money here.

1863
03:12:26,030 --> 03:12:29,825
we need family members to have jobs to go to. I need to have my time with my family,

1864
03:12:33,410 --> 03:12:36,920
and to work and, make money. Anyway, that's all I have to say. Thank you. >> thank you. [applause]

1865
03:12:45,320 --> 03:12:48,290
>> next speaker is fernando lebron. Followed by brian pena.

1866
03:12:54,940 --> 03:12:58,700
>> good evening, mayor and city council members. My name is fernando lebron.

1867
03:13:00,215 --> 03:13:00,215
I'm a proud member of smart sheet metal air railroad, and transportation workers.

1868
03:13:04,895 --> 03:13:04,895
I'm here tonight in the strong support of the a2 infrastructure data center project.

1869
03:13:09,935 --> 03:13:13,700
for workers like me, projects like this means keeping good family, supporting jobs right here in arizona when major infrastructure projects move forward,

1870
03:13:19,340 --> 03:13:19,340
we can work close to home instead of traveling out of state just to stay employed.

1871
03:13:24,935 --> 03:13:27,395
that stability matters to our families, our communities, our local economy.

1872
03:13:29,660 --> 03:13:31,970
data centers are complex facilities that required trained workers to be built safely and correctly.

1873
03:13:35,870 --> 03:13:35,870
smart members play a critical role from advanced air and ventilation systems to

1874
03:13:40,550 --> 03:13:40,550
precise installation that keeps these facilities operating efficiently and reliable.

1875
03:13:45,890 --> 03:13:45,890
this high technical work that depends on training, experience, and accountability.

1876
03:13:50,150 --> 03:13:50,150
projects like a2 data center also help grow the next generation of skilled workers by

1877
03:13:55,160 --> 03:13:57,500
creating opportunities for apprentices and young people to build long-term careers here in arizona.

1878
03:14:00,275 --> 03:14:04,235
when our members are working, the benefits extend beyond the job site. We support local businesses,

1879
03:14:06,125 --> 03:14:07,490
contribute to tax revenue, and stay invested in the communities where we live.

1880
03:14:10,145 --> 03:14:12,935
the a2 infrastructure data center represents responsible development that supports skilled labor and long term economic growth.

1881
03:14:18,350 --> 03:14:21,980
for these reasons, I respectfully urge your support. Thank you for your time this evening and consideration.

1882
03:14:24,380 --> 03:14:24,380
[applause]

1883
03:14:31,970 --> 03:14:35,270
>> the next speaker is brian pena, followed by cody mcguire. >> good evening major,

1884
03:14:40,325 --> 03:14:42,290
council members and stuff. My name is brian pena.

1885
03:14:44,735 --> 03:14:47,660
I'm a proud member of the painters and allied traits, and on behalf of a membership here in arizona,

1886
03:14:50,945 --> 03:14:50,945
strong support for the proposed data center.

1887
03:14:55,160 --> 03:14:58,925
while we acknowledge the valid concerns raised by the members of our community regarding the water and energy consumption,

1888
03:15:02,945 --> 03:15:02,945
I believe that project with it mitigation measures represent

1889
03:15:07,700 --> 03:15:10,685
a significant opportunity for economic growth and technological advancement here in arizona,

1890
03:15:13,910 --> 03:15:15,755
especially here in marana. Smart and responsible development consists of hiring locally,

1891
03:15:20,555 --> 03:15:22,880
including our construction traits, men and women that are

1892
03:15:26,105 --> 03:15:26,105
often left behind and neglected when building anything in this region.

1893
03:15:32,285 --> 03:15:35,930
bio has assured us that there will be a strong safety standards on this project with local hire.

1894
03:15:39,980 --> 03:15:39,980
let's keep our working families together and coming home every night.

1895
03:15:45,410 --> 03:15:45,410
we strongly and humbly urge you to move forward with this project.

1896
03:15:50,390 --> 03:15:50,390
thank you. [applause]

1897
03:15:58,550 --> 03:16:00,200
>> the next speaker is cody mcguire, followed by shan lopez.

1898
03:16:14,560 --> 03:16:17,720
>> good evening, mayor, vice mayor and council members. Thank you very much for your time and your passion part of this project,

1899
03:16:20,930 --> 03:16:23,945
and also listening to your constituents. My name is cody mcguire. I'm a resident property owner of marana,

1900
03:16:26,150 --> 03:16:28,100
bought back in 2005. I'm a supporter of the data center in marana.

1901
03:16:30,980 --> 03:16:33,755
especially a factor I look at is the right location. We look at marana has mass territory you guys have,

1902
03:16:37,010 --> 03:16:40,055
putting up to where industrial use area is key. Next to airpark, mining,

1903
03:16:42,095 --> 03:16:45,560
cemetery, and also solar. I think it's the right area, and you look at it versus anywhere else you could put in marana.

1904
03:16:48,230 --> 03:16:51,890
looking at the investment you make that's going to be new making what we will actually receive for this town for jobs.

1905
03:16:57,065 --> 03:16:59,330
thank you to contract workers. My dad was constructional workers. I know what it's like.

1906
03:17:01,835 --> 03:17:01,835
thank you. I appreciate all that.

1907
03:17:07,295 --> 03:17:09,410
the overall, I understand there's parts of water that's reducing it, looking at the air cooling.

1908
03:17:13,420 --> 03:17:16,430
I look forward to seeing all the actual ramification, what it actually does and actually,

1909
03:17:17,780 --> 03:17:19,595
the success that comes from that. Overall, the proposal project provides

1910
03:17:22,430 --> 03:17:25,310
an opportunity for marana to distinguish itself as open for business in southern arizona and a chance for marana to

1911
03:17:28,130 --> 03:17:31,175
lead the region instruction reliability digital instructure. The thing I want to say is,

1912
03:17:32,495 --> 03:17:32,495
I wish I love you guys have put the piece at the very beginning to make for data centers,

1913
03:17:39,650 --> 03:17:42,395
wish or valley, city of tucson, we actually do these same things and be proactive versus always in the back end,

1914
03:17:47,630 --> 03:17:51,260
and it always screws ourselves. Thank you very much for putting that time in and putting at the very beginning to help move forward.

1915
03:17:53,510 --> 03:17:55,910
you actually have a company who actually wants to check the boxes for a change versus trying to skate around them or getting incentives.

1916
03:17:59,660 --> 03:17:59,660
thank you thank you much for time. [applause]

1917
03:18:07,460 --> 03:18:09,215
>> the next speaker shan lopez, followed by jonathan daley.

1918
03:18:12,700 --> 03:18:15,575
>> good evening, mayor, vice mayor and council. Thank you for your time. My name is shan lopez.

1919
03:18:17,780 --> 03:18:17,780
I'm a local business representative for lona local 1184; we're laborers.

1920
03:18:22,430 --> 03:18:25,970
we do a heavy civil underground steward storm drain. We build your roads and bridges.

1921
03:18:27,905 --> 03:18:30,995
I'm just a representative of 2,000 members we have here in arizona. About half of those are in southern arizona.

1922
03:18:33,560 --> 03:18:37,220
like my colleague said, we all travel for work. We don't get the luxury of staying home for holidays and things like that.

1923
03:18:40,550 --> 03:18:42,560
a lot of times we're on call. But one thing I want to touch on is this jobs aspect.

1924
03:18:46,115 --> 03:18:48,905
it's a little condescending, no offense to anybody, but they're not really jobs.

1925
03:18:50,675 --> 03:18:50,675
people think construction workers it's just a job. It's actually a career.

1926
03:18:54,980 --> 03:18:56,930
it's my job to make sure I can string these short-term projects together to create a career for my members.

1927
03:19:01,520 --> 03:19:05,195
this is four years, possibly eight or longer. This is something that'll add 4-8 years of pension credits.

1928
03:19:10,370 --> 03:19:13,295
o union labors, for all the unions, we provide medical, dental, vision,

1929
03:19:15,170 --> 03:19:15,170
prescription, pensions, annuities, vacation bonuses for all of our members.

1930
03:19:21,310 --> 03:19:25,305
it's not just a job. You're actually helping create careers here. On top of that, I recruit.

1931
03:19:27,335 --> 03:19:30,785
I'm a headhunter as well. I will work with the schools. Our apprenticeship program will come down here.

1932
03:19:33,035 --> 03:19:35,975
we'll go to all your job fairs, and we'll hire locally. We'll hire straight out of high school,

1933
03:19:37,640 --> 03:19:39,935
get them in our apprenticeship and within two years, they'll be making over $30 an hour with full benefits,

1934
03:19:42,950 --> 03:19:42,950
being able to have kids and create families locally and marana, and help marana grow.

1935
03:19:47,570 --> 03:19:50,110
thank you so much for your support, and I ask that you support this project. [applause]

1936
03:20:01,670 --> 03:20:03,335
>> the next speaker is jonathan daley, followed by rebecca kozlowski.

1937
03:20:07,450 --> 03:20:10,130
>> good evening. My name is jonathan daley. I was really hoping I wasn't going to follow shawn.

1938
03:20:12,800 --> 03:20:12,800
but I'm also a member of local 1184 labors union.

1939
03:20:17,180 --> 03:20:17,180
I'll go more personal note since he hit it all right on the head.

1940
03:20:22,325 --> 03:20:24,890
our members consist of veterans, second chancellors, kids coming out of foster care,

1941
03:20:27,500 --> 03:20:29,315
you name it, husband, wives, their fathers, mothers.

1942
03:20:32,350 --> 03:20:34,855
me myself, I'm a marine corps veteran. I'm also a husband,

1943
03:20:36,745 --> 03:20:36,745
and I'm a father to a 2-year-old boy and soon to be baby girl.

1944
03:20:41,610 --> 03:20:44,485
those are the reasons I'm here tonight, so that I can be home every night with them.

1945
03:20:47,560 --> 03:20:50,635
they want me home every night. They remind me every day, maybe not so much during football season,

1946
03:20:52,510 --> 03:20:56,055
but starting now, probably a lot more. With that, this gives our membership on-the-job experience that's needed,

1947
03:21:01,390 --> 03:21:05,095
just not the apprenticeship school and sitting and reading a book. It's not usually how we operate.

1948
03:21:06,565 --> 03:21:09,790
it's usually the on-the-job experience that we benefit from. It gives us that opportunity,

1949
03:21:11,815 --> 03:21:11,815
and to provide I was able to just buy my family a house and provide them with healthcare,

1950
03:21:17,680 --> 03:21:20,360
food on the table, and we never have to question it. With that, we ask you please approve this.

1951
03:21:22,025 --> 03:21:22,025
thank you. [applause]

1952
03:21:29,120 --> 03:21:31,910
>> rebecca, I'm sorry if I'm saying your name wrong rebecca. >> you did remarkably well.

1953
03:21:33,755 --> 03:21:36,005
>> all right. Followed by fred barnett. >> thank you. Mr. Mayor,

1954
03:21:40,475 --> 03:21:42,830
vice mayor, council. I'm rebecca kozlowski.

1955
03:21:45,350 --> 03:21:45,350
I lived just outside marana line near the amazon property,

1956
03:21:50,345 --> 03:21:53,690
but I have worked in marana since 2010. My son graduated from musd,

1957
03:21:56,600 --> 03:21:59,195
so I have some heart here in marana. I grew up in lake erie,

1958
03:22:01,355 --> 03:22:02,600
where as a child, we could not swim in the water as it was too polluted.

1959
03:22:06,800 --> 03:22:06,800
a nearby river famously caught on fire.

1960
03:22:10,910 --> 03:22:10,910
these circumstances started my lifelong journey as an environmentalist.

1961
03:22:16,970 --> 03:22:16,970
as a owner of multiple small businesses,

1962
03:22:21,410 --> 03:22:21,410
I learned to study the fine line skeptically in contracts and agreements

1963
03:22:27,620 --> 03:22:30,875
and do my due diligence to fully understand the impact I and my businesses have had on my community.

1964
03:22:34,340 --> 03:22:34,340
you may assume that this means that I'm against this project; on the contrary.

1965
03:22:40,670 --> 03:22:40,670
after my in-depth reading of the specific town ordinance for data centers,

1966
03:22:45,275 --> 03:22:45,275
I am convinced that the town has created a thoughtful and community-friendly plan.

1967
03:22:51,530 --> 03:22:53,555
this plan covers air-cooled, not water-cooled, regulations,

1968
03:22:55,610 --> 03:22:57,755
strong restrictions on noise, locations far from residential areas,

1969
03:23:00,380 --> 03:23:03,380
requirements for the project to play upfront for the investments for power to avoid passing rate increases onto residents,

1970
03:23:08,105 --> 03:23:10,625
workforce development, and more. I urge marana residents to take the time to study

1971
03:23:14,825 --> 03:23:14,825
the ordinance and these plants and not fall prey to the plethora of

1972
03:23:19,310 --> 03:23:19,310
misinformation spread by many who are not near our community and will not

1973
03:23:24,770 --> 03:23:24,770
feel and enjoy the positive impact this project will bring to our kids and grandkids,

1974
03:23:30,710 --> 03:23:32,930
and the enhancements for our roads, infrastructure, and for smart growth in marana.

1975
03:23:36,260 --> 03:23:36,260
I fully support this council's positive decision on this look at project.

1976
03:23:40,400 --> 03:23:40,400
[applause]

1977
03:23:47,960 --> 03:23:49,550
>> on next speaker is fred barnett, followed by drew jenkins, and then courtney hoyt.

1978
03:23:58,990 --> 03:24:01,670
>> hello, mr. Mayor. >> hey, fred. [laughter] >> I have to remember this,

1979
03:24:03,080 --> 03:24:06,160
all these strenuous members. Marana was founded in '77 with one purpose in mind: to take care of our water.

1980
03:24:15,035 --> 03:24:15,035
that's what it was all about.

1981
03:24:19,390 --> 03:24:22,700
as time went on, the town wasn't really flourishing.

1982
03:24:27,640 --> 03:24:31,450
pickles hit on it earlier. We went out, and we got some more land. We annexed property.

1983
03:24:38,110 --> 03:24:38,110
the town has grown and grown and grown because we now have revenue.

1984
03:24:51,970 --> 03:24:51,970
I think if we don't take advantage of this,

1985
03:24:56,830 --> 03:25:00,815
it could be the wrong move. We have no property tax in marana,

1986
03:25:05,495 --> 03:25:09,200
and I would think a move like this should ensure that we have no property tax in marana for years to come.

1987
03:25:16,550 --> 03:25:16,550
that would be my take on it,

1988
03:25:23,290 --> 03:25:23,290
and I'm all for it.

1989
03:25:29,110 --> 03:25:29,110
I don't know a whole lot about everything.

1990
03:25:33,290 --> 03:25:37,160
everybody seems to be concerned about how much water these data centers take. I don't know.

1991
03:25:44,015 --> 03:25:44,015
seems like to me that they ought to be a system like a car with a radiator,

1992
03:25:52,730 --> 03:25:52,730
and you cool it, and then you put it back in the motor.

1993
03:26:01,180 --> 03:26:01,180
I think if somebody paid me enough money,

1994
03:26:05,240 --> 03:26:07,520
I could figure that system out. [laughter]

1995
03:26:13,274 --> 03:26:13,274
>> thank you. [applause] but you guys heard it,

1996
03:26:20,310 --> 03:26:22,890
right, fred, right there. In case you need him. [background]

1997
03:26:25,380 --> 03:26:26,940
>> the next speaker is drew jenkins, followed by courtney hoyt.

1998
03:26:32,300 --> 03:26:35,595
>> mayor, vice mayor, counsel. My name is drew jenkins,

1999
03:26:37,155 --> 03:26:39,180
and I'm an internet user. I'm certainly not alone in this.

2000
03:26:41,220 --> 03:26:43,725
I got a couple of statistics here that tells me 96% of all adults in the united states access the internet regularly.

2001
03:26:49,065 --> 03:26:49,065
89.4% of households in arizona have an internet subscription,

2002
03:26:54,180 --> 03:26:54,180
and 95.7% of households specifically in marana have an internet subscription.

2003
03:27:00,000 --> 03:27:03,810
in 2018, it was reported the average adult spends a little over 6 hours a day every single day engaging with digital media,

2004
03:27:09,720 --> 03:27:09,720
and that has since grown to just under 7 hours every single day in 2024.

2005
03:27:14,745 --> 03:27:17,535
we use smart watches, to exercise, apps to communicate, online maps, to get around.

2006
03:27:20,700 --> 03:27:24,150
I use digital cameras to watch my babies, my dogs, and my front door.

2007
03:27:26,220 --> 03:27:29,310
this is just what we use as individuals, you heard previously,

2008
03:27:30,855 --> 03:27:30,855
how much our commercial businesses and community use internet as well.

2009
03:27:35,310 --> 03:27:37,140
our digital consumption, and online connectedness has continued to grow year after year,

2010
03:27:40,695 --> 03:27:43,155
where it has become an integral part of our life. Given the growth of our technological consumption and our reliance on it,

2011
03:27:46,920 --> 03:27:49,260
it does not surprise me that companies are wanting to build data centers in southern arizona to support our habitual use.

2012
03:27:53,040 --> 03:27:55,920
what we have here is a problem of irony, where some are saying that we don't want data centers down here,

2013
03:27:58,935 --> 03:28:01,020
yet they are critical infrastructure to sustain our lifestyle of technological consumption.

2014
03:28:04,395 --> 03:28:06,030
we've seen the videos, and read the articles about the impacts of data centers.

2015
03:28:08,775 --> 03:28:11,505
if these projects go somewhere else in arizona, it'll use the same energy,

2016
03:28:12,900 --> 03:28:15,390
and water resources that we use here. Provided that a data center is going to be built in southern arizona

2017
03:28:19,050 --> 03:28:22,620
as they told us and has become essential to our way of living. I would argue that we have a responsibility as residents to build a data center

2018
03:28:26,745 --> 03:28:26,745
in our community where we can properly oversee the accountability,

2019
03:28:30,960 --> 03:28:34,155
transparency, and resource management of this project, and directly benefit from all of the positive financial aspects,

2020
03:28:38,160 --> 03:28:41,235
and construction jobs that the project provides us. Thank you. >> thank you. [applause]

2021
03:28:47,130 --> 03:28:48,720
>> next speaker is courtney hoyt, followed by tommy bingham.

2022
03:28:54,050 --> 03:28:56,910
>> excuse me, my voice sucks today, so just bear with me.

2023
03:28:58,785 --> 03:29:02,190
good evening, mayor, vice mayor, and council members. My name is courtney, and I live here in marana.

2024
03:29:04,860 --> 03:29:08,310
I appreciate the opportunity to speak with you guys tonight. I'm here because construction jobs and responsible development matter for our town.

2025
03:29:14,505 --> 03:29:18,135
when projects move forward here, they put local trades to work. Those are solid careers that support families and keep folks working close to home.

2026
03:29:23,100 --> 03:29:23,100
responsible development paves the path for future growth in our community.

2027
03:29:28,140 --> 03:29:30,135
puny, but true. When that work happens here,

2028
03:29:32,295 --> 03:29:34,485
money is spent at marana businesses, gas stations, restaurants, grocery stores.

2029
03:29:37,815 --> 03:29:40,830
that local spending brings in tax dollars that helps pay for things we all care about like roads,

2030
03:29:43,680 --> 03:29:43,680
public safety, and keeping up with growth without putting it all on existing residents.

2031
03:29:50,160 --> 03:29:53,190
I know every project deserves a careful look and I respect that you've taken the time to do so and appreciate it.

2032
03:29:56,355 --> 03:29:59,130
I hope you consider that responsible development can mean steady jobs, more local spending,

2033
03:30:01,845 --> 03:30:03,420
and a stronger tax base, all while keeping marana a place where people are proud to live and work.

2034
03:30:07,665 --> 03:30:10,860
thank you for your time and consideration of this project. >> thank you. [applause]

2035
03:30:17,160 --> 03:30:19,320
>> the next speaker is tommy bingham, followed by briana rader.

2036
03:30:23,360 --> 03:30:23,360
is tommy here. Okay. Briana. [background]

2037
03:30:40,190 --> 03:30:42,695
>> mayor, vice mayor and council members. I'm a fifth generation, southern arizona,

2038
03:30:45,310 --> 03:30:47,745
a mount view high school graduate, and my family has called marana home since returning back to the area in 2014.

2039
03:30:53,595 --> 03:30:55,875
I pulled some demographic data, and those in the area are actually around 37-years-old.

2040
03:31:00,720 --> 03:31:00,720
I represent those closely impacted by this project.

2041
03:31:05,340 --> 03:31:09,195
I'm pretty sure many of which in my generation couldn't make it tonight, shuttling kids, and putting kids to bed tonight,

2042
03:31:11,160 --> 03:31:13,430
but here I am thanks to mom. I support this project.

2043
03:31:15,795 --> 03:31:18,615
I believe it'll benefit our community for generations. Here's a few of the benefits that matter to me.

2044
03:31:21,400 --> 03:31:25,370
economic growth and stability. We've watched nearby jurisdictions. Continue to say no.

2045
03:31:27,215 --> 03:31:30,755
the novo came from the loud minority. As a result, these jurisdictions have had to react to essentially a dying economy.

2046
03:31:36,070 --> 03:31:36,070
we've seen additional sales tax proposals, and the like.

2047
03:31:40,110 --> 03:31:43,575
let's keep marana economically strong. Jobs, I had to leave town after graduating from mva.

2048
03:31:47,340 --> 03:31:50,205
jobs weren't secure, they didn't pay enough. This project will create the jobs to help retain talent in our region.

2049
03:31:54,660 --> 03:31:54,660
further, I work in an industry that depends on job growth.

2050
03:31:58,740 --> 03:32:00,315
many have said it today. Jobs are vital for a strong economy.

2051
03:32:03,840 --> 03:32:06,075
community perception. Marana has the opportunity tonight to set

2052
03:32:08,820 --> 03:32:12,660
a positive example for smart sustainable development in southern arizona. Many of us recall some recent no votes that made national headlines.

2053
03:32:16,980 --> 03:32:19,815
let's get marana on the map. Let's showcase. We can make smart growth decisions.

2054
03:32:22,335 --> 03:32:22,335
I've witnessed firsthand, many of you make some really tough decisions right here.

2055
03:32:28,395 --> 03:32:28,395
thoughtful council action has brightened our community's growth, and vitality.

2056
03:32:34,965 --> 03:32:38,220
over the last few decades, this isn't just about this one decision. It's all the decisions that have led up to today.

2057
03:32:41,220 --> 03:32:43,800
please let us not forget that tonight. A yes vote tonight is a vote for marana's future,

2058
03:32:46,920 --> 03:32:50,325
one that embraces smart growth, a strong local economy, innovation, and opportunity for all residents.

2059
03:32:53,130 --> 03:32:55,425
thank you for supporting the future of marana. >> thank you. [applause]

2060
03:33:01,860 --> 03:33:04,590
>> our next speaker is lloyd kirsch. Sorry, lloyd, I did not give you heads up.

2061
03:33:07,305 --> 03:33:09,750
after lloyd is michael vasquez, and then derek espadas.

2062
03:33:30,680 --> 03:33:34,350
>> good evening, mayor post. Vice mayor ziegler.

2063
03:33:36,600 --> 03:33:39,870
town officials and town council. My name is lloyd kirsch.

2064
03:33:43,200 --> 03:33:43,200
I've been a resident in marana for over 11 years.

2065
03:33:47,685 --> 03:33:47,685
I volunteered to the community through my participation on the tourism task force,

2066
03:33:54,645 --> 03:33:57,240
the town restaurant task force, the marana unified school district business alliance steering committee,

2067
03:34:02,205 --> 03:34:02,205
and as a certified tourism ambassador from marana.

2068
03:34:07,365 --> 03:34:07,365
I appreciate addressing you today regarding a proposal to approve an ai data center,

2069
03:34:14,565 --> 03:34:14,565
one that has enormous economic benefits from marana, and its residents,

2070
03:34:21,270 --> 03:34:25,260
but also presents major resident concerns, and apprehension about potential property devaluation,

2071
03:34:30,105 --> 03:34:33,360
the strain on local resources, and the reputational harm to our nascent tourism marketing plans.

2072
03:34:38,820 --> 03:34:38,820
there were also several unresolved issues that demand your attention.

2073
03:34:44,655 --> 03:34:44,655
beetle and blue owl capital, its parent,

2074
03:34:49,170 --> 03:34:49,170
and the data center developer's track record,

2075
03:34:56,140 --> 03:34:58,850
lack of transparency, and legal exposure highlights the potential for litigation,

2076
03:35:03,380 --> 03:35:06,125
and protracted legal disputes. Should this project proceed?

2077
03:35:08,755 --> 03:35:08,755
blue owl capital value in 2025 decreased 33%.

2078
03:35:17,355 --> 03:35:20,640
they have liquidity issues. I believe that further due diligence should be conducted.

2079
03:35:25,260 --> 03:35:28,920
marana town council and staff are to be commended for developing an ordinance regulating data centers.

2080
03:35:33,450 --> 03:35:33,450
however, approving this data center in the absence of

2081
03:35:37,890 --> 03:35:37,890
clear robust regulations regarding end of life responsibilities,

2082
03:35:44,745 --> 03:35:48,460
funding, and planning would be premature, and potentially detrimental to marana's long term interests,

2083
03:35:52,955 --> 03:35:52,955
given the uncertainty of federal intervention,

2084
03:35:57,575 --> 03:35:57,575
and end of flight funding for the conversion of this total project.

2085
03:36:02,720 --> 03:36:02,720
as the life cycle of the ai data center is 15 to 25 years.

2086
03:36:08,930 --> 03:36:11,300
this council must have the wisdom, and courage to choose a future course set

2087
03:36:14,450 --> 03:36:14,450
its citizens can live with over generations without

2088
03:36:19,350 --> 03:36:19,350
the potential for technological obsolescence that leave

2089
03:36:24,180 --> 03:36:24,180
communities with abandoned difficult to repurpose buildings.

2090
03:36:29,235 --> 03:36:29,235
in conclusion, the decision before you

2091
03:36:33,540 --> 03:36:33,540
is not merely about approving a construction project.

2092
03:36:37,920 --> 03:36:37,920
it's about safeguarding the future of marana.

2093
03:36:42,000 --> 03:36:42,000
I urge you to listen to the concerns of your constituents,

2094
03:36:46,395 --> 03:36:48,180
and act with the prudence, and foresight that marana,

2095
03:36:50,520 --> 03:36:53,655
and its future generations deserve. For all these reasons,

2096
03:36:55,725 --> 03:36:55,725
I respectfully urge the council to vote against

2097
03:37:00,000 --> 03:37:00,000
the approval of the ai data center unless an extensive end of

2098
03:37:05,430 --> 03:37:05,430
life addition to the data center regulations in

2099
03:37:09,900 --> 03:37:13,320
much greater detail than the one displayed earlier can be to fill up and approved by this council.

2100
03:37:17,925 --> 03:37:19,890
thank you for your concern. >> thank you. [applause]

2101
03:37:24,900 --> 03:37:27,165
>> the next speaker is michael vasquez, followed by derek espadas.

2102
03:37:29,040 --> 03:37:29,040
>> mayor, vice mayor, council and staff.

2103
03:37:34,440 --> 03:37:35,850
my name is michael vasquez. I'm the executive director of the arizona bill and trades council.

2104
03:37:39,015 --> 03:37:39,015
arizona bill and trades construction trades council consists of 14 different trades,

2105
03:37:45,000 --> 03:37:48,840
and also has over 22 members, which we have some of the members here tonight.

2106
03:37:52,050 --> 03:37:55,815
our members are able to train arizona's future workforce, and our national recognized privately funded apprenticeship programs,

2107
03:38:00,105 --> 03:38:00,105
but we only accept as many apprentices as we can guarantee not only a job but a career.

2108
03:38:07,560 --> 03:38:07,560
if the rezones for the council actions 2 and 3 are approved.

2109
03:38:12,855 --> 03:38:16,380
this project alone will show our contractors that we must invest now in growing our workforce at marana.

2110
03:38:21,030 --> 03:38:21,030
that would mean creating new high paying jobs with benefits right here in marana.

2111
03:38:26,775 --> 03:38:26,775
it means we can start training the next generation of construction workers.

2112
03:38:32,055 --> 03:38:35,730
marana can continue to attract projects to the area that will create opportunities for our members to stay close to home.

2113
03:38:41,505 --> 03:38:41,505
we ask that you please approve the rezoning,

2114
03:38:46,440 --> 03:38:46,440
and help us create 4,200 new high paying jobs.

2115
03:38:51,720 --> 03:38:51,720
thank you. [applause]

2116
03:38:57,270 --> 03:38:57,270
>> the next speaker is derek espadas followed by nick maya.

2117
03:39:06,920 --> 03:39:09,960
>> hello. My name is derek espadas. I'm an accountant, entrepreneur, educator,

2118
03:39:12,540 --> 03:39:12,540
doctoral candidate in business and a candidate for the arizona corporation commission.

2119
03:39:17,325 --> 03:39:19,740
I cannot speak to the trico statements, but I can address the tep statements.

2120
03:39:22,725 --> 03:39:24,780
they are currently in their rate case, not only seeking a 14% increase,

2121
03:39:27,780 --> 03:39:31,410
that conveniently happened the same day that project blue, the lens of project blue occurred.

2122
03:39:33,480 --> 03:39:35,535
but on the back end of that rate case, there is a proposal for them to bypass the acc in future rate cases,

2123
03:39:40,995 --> 03:39:43,890
and have an automatic increase. Now, what does that have to do with data centers?

2124
03:39:46,440 --> 03:39:46,440
if you look at their 10k and their 8k's for the last couple of years,

2125
03:39:50,760 --> 03:39:50,760
they specifically say that they are going to make up for what they perceive to

2126
03:39:55,800 --> 03:39:55,800
be a drop in profits because they're only making $330 million in profit.

2127
03:40:02,130 --> 03:40:05,130
a 33% increase over the last three years? They specifically outlined that they are seeking large scale data center increases,

2128
03:40:11,850 --> 03:40:11,850
and to pass on the costs and gain the profits in the future.

2129
03:40:15,870 --> 03:40:18,180
again, in their 10k and 8k's. Who are they lying to?

2130
03:40:19,890 --> 03:40:22,560
are they lying to you, us, are they lying to the securities and exchange commission, and their investors?

2131
03:40:28,155 --> 03:40:28,155
data is just erroneous when we're talking about data centers.

2132
03:40:32,670 --> 03:40:36,060
data centers don't provide data about their data centers. Everything is made up,

2133
03:40:38,160 --> 03:40:42,050
and it just happens to be beale's favor. Approving the project would also lock up finite community assets.

2134
03:40:48,435 --> 03:40:52,365
once you approve this, there's no growth in any other area. You've locked up the maximum capacity that we've talked about as far as energy,

2135
03:40:57,645 --> 03:40:57,645
and those energy supplies are not guaranteed.

2136
03:41:02,025 --> 03:41:02,025
even commissioner walden on the acc points out that the business structure that is

2137
03:41:07,890 --> 03:41:07,890
being presented to arizona data centers is not the same that we get everywhere else.

2138
03:41:13,380 --> 03:41:16,980
I do also want to bring up that I know it's legal, but I find that the connection between

2139
03:41:19,545 --> 03:41:19,545
the vice mayor and lazarus and silvan to be unethical,

2140
03:41:23,745 --> 03:41:25,485
along with the cheer leading, and the testifying for them as well in this case,

2141
03:41:28,965 --> 03:41:28,965
and I do endorse the referendum so that the people can decide on this matter.

2142
03:41:34,215 --> 03:41:37,080
thank you. [applause] >> yes, mayor. [background]

2143
03:41:41,256 --> 03:41:41,256
>> excuse me, sir. I'm going to encourage you to read title 16 campaign finding.

2144
03:41:50,220 --> 03:41:54,055
>> I have a different title. >> I'm not going to argue with you. I'm not going to argue with you.

2145
03:41:57,070 --> 03:42:00,925
I encourage you to read title. >> I have title 16, and I'm applying the ethical component that's not in there.

2146
03:42:04,300 --> 03:42:07,660
ethics and legality are two separate issues. I would also say there's a lack of professionalism by the vice mayor.

2147
03:42:12,700 --> 03:42:12,700
providing unsolicited comments on social media at three in the morning.

2148
03:42:17,275 --> 03:42:17,275
it becomes very hard to take you seriously when there's

2149
03:42:21,325 --> 03:42:21,325
actions equating to teenage behavior in the middle of the night.

2150
03:42:26,095 --> 03:42:26,095
>> I'm not even going to dignify that with an answer. Mayor, please.

2151
03:42:30,715 --> 03:42:30,715
I'd like to it doesn't matter what time I do my I don't know why that's your concern.

2152
03:42:36,790 --> 03:42:40,195
but again, I've been in this community for 20 years. I'm not going to take those comments from you.

2153
03:42:44,125 --> 03:42:47,230
>> you're addressing them. You are taking them. I encourage you to move on.

2154
03:42:49,855 --> 03:42:52,075
may I be excused from this? >> get the hell out. That's a good idea.

2155
03:42:53,890 --> 03:42:57,745
>> that was not appropriate. >> thank you, sir. >> do you want to continue and then I'd be fine. Let's continue.

2156
03:43:02,700 --> 03:43:04,575
>> that sounded like a threat. >> it's not getting better. It's getting worse.

2157
03:43:06,795 --> 03:43:09,845
>> that's not a threat sir. >> thank you, mary. Thank you. >> the next speaker is nick maya,

2158
03:43:11,815 --> 03:43:14,875
followed by jason sangster. >> I'm not sure how I'm going to follow that,

2159
03:43:22,720 --> 03:43:26,560
but I still feeling like mr. Relevant here, nfl draft fans.

2160
03:43:28,990 --> 03:43:28,990
but good evening, mayor post vice mayor ziegler and council members.

2161
03:43:36,205 --> 03:43:37,555
my name is nick maya, and I'm speaking on behalf of the coalition for sonoran desert protection.

2162
03:43:41,215 --> 03:43:41,215
the coalition represents 28 national and regional organizations across southern arizona,

2163
03:43:46,810 --> 03:43:48,935
including members in marana. Thank you for the opportunity to speak tonight.

2164
03:43:51,930 --> 03:43:51,930
hopefully, able to read the letter that we sent you all last week.

2165
03:43:57,015 --> 03:43:57,015
the coalition recognizes the time and effort the town,

2166
03:44:01,705 --> 03:44:01,705
the council members and staff have put into reviewing these applications.

2167
03:44:06,650 --> 03:44:06,650
with that said, we respectfully urge that the council delay tonight's vote to

2168
03:44:13,440 --> 03:44:17,160
allow more time to strengthen the conditions of approval and better protect the town, its residents.

2169
03:44:21,860 --> 03:44:21,860
maranas long term financial and planning interests.

2170
03:44:26,650 --> 03:44:30,130
in particular, we're concerned that while we appreciate the new condition without binding financial assurance,

2171
03:44:34,450 --> 03:44:34,450
marana still risks incurring costs if these projects fail.

2172
03:44:40,000 --> 03:44:40,000
air cool data centers use two to 5% excuse me,

2173
03:44:45,370 --> 03:44:47,170
2-5 times more electricity, and it's unclear whether trico or tp can responsibly serve this load.

2174
03:44:51,880 --> 03:44:54,520
even with limited onsite water use, the added power demand drives significant regional water impacts that are not addressed.

2175
03:44:59,710 --> 03:44:59,710
marana has an opportunity to reduce these risks rather than absorb them.

2176
03:45:04,150 --> 03:45:07,390
pima county's net zero energy memorandum of agreement with beal infrastructure offers a practical model that could protect grid reliability,

2177
03:45:12,910 --> 03:45:15,940
stabilize costs, and reduce water impacts. Thank you for your consideration and continued service to marana.

2178
03:45:19,735 --> 03:45:23,380
we respectfully request that this vote be continued to allow further review of the conditions of approval for this project. Thank you.

2179
03:45:30,930 --> 03:45:34,840
>> the next speaker is jason sangster, followed by michael beltran.

2180
03:45:38,100 --> 03:45:41,440
>> good evening, mayor, vice mayor, council. My name is jason sangster.

2181
03:45:42,850 --> 03:45:46,750
I'm the business manager for iron workers local 75 in arizona. Ironworker local 75 and have been billing arizona since july 10, 1910.

2182
03:45:52,135 --> 03:45:54,820
we have a training facility here in tucson, arizona, right here to south of us and a union hall down there also.

2183
03:45:59,155 --> 03:45:59,155
I'm here today to ask you to please approve the rezoning action for a a two and a three.

2184
03:46:04,885 --> 03:46:06,820
if rezoning is approved, this project will result in over 4,200 jobs in marana.

2185
03:46:11,395 --> 03:46:13,855
that'll mean that southern arizona members, our southern arizona members will be able to

2186
03:46:15,910 --> 03:46:18,310
work close to home and don't have to travel for work. They can be home with their families for dinner,

2187
03:46:20,410 --> 03:46:20,410
they can spend time with their friends and their relatives here in town.

2188
03:46:26,340 --> 03:46:30,280
creating 4,200 new jobs will make sure that marana has a highly skilled workforce necessary to complete future projects on time and on budget.

2189
03:46:35,290 --> 03:46:35,290
I would thank you for your time and ask if you please approve this project.

2190
03:46:39,625 --> 03:46:39,625
thank you. [applause]

2191
03:46:45,490 --> 03:46:47,185
>> next speaker is michael beltran, followed by adam rodriguez.

2192
03:46:50,580 --> 03:46:50,580
is michael in the room? No. Adam rodriguez.

2193
03:46:56,650 --> 03:46:56,650
the next speaker after that will be kevin anderson.

2194
03:47:02,190 --> 03:47:04,780
>> good evening, morena leadership. My name is adam, I came here neutral tonight as out of pure curiosity,

2195
03:47:11,455 --> 03:47:11,455
and just to see what I could take in from the comments from both sides while,

2196
03:47:16,525 --> 03:47:16,525
I can't argue at all against a substantial financial gain, of course.

2197
03:47:22,080 --> 03:47:22,080
two things that came up are the size of this project

2198
03:47:26,680 --> 03:47:30,610
seems tremendous in that it would take up a lot of economic space, it feels like and the complexity,

2199
03:47:33,610 --> 03:47:35,350
the unknowns about it. It seems like there's a lot we don't know from

2200
03:47:38,245 --> 03:47:41,230
individually concerned members of our community that seem to have a good understanding of what it is that we're talking about.

2201
03:47:44,965 --> 03:47:47,560
those things make me arrive to the conclusion of not necessarily supporting the data center at the moment,

2202
03:47:51,040 --> 03:47:51,040
but I would strongly support or I would appreciate it if you all

2203
03:47:56,155 --> 03:47:56,155
considered the referendum or perhaps moratorium on the vote,

2204
03:48:04,450 --> 03:48:08,035
so we could understand more about the implications of the system. I didn't have much else to say. Thank you.

2205
03:48:09,670 --> 03:48:09,670
>> thank you. [applause]

2206
03:48:17,140 --> 03:48:20,215
>> michael. The next speaker is kevin anderson, followed by second alizad. Sorry.

2207
03:48:26,920 --> 03:48:29,485
>> mayor, vice mayor, council members. Thanks for letting me speak tonight.

2208
03:48:31,750 --> 03:48:31,750
please don't tell my surgeon that I use one crutch right now.

2209
03:48:36,570 --> 03:48:40,045
my name is kevin anderson. I grew up in marana. I've lived here for over 25 years.

2210
03:48:42,070 --> 03:48:43,795
over the past six years, I've owned and operated business here locally.

2211
03:48:46,630 --> 03:48:49,330
I've been able to see marana grow, I mean, start as a small town in my eyes and grow into

2212
03:48:52,300 --> 03:48:52,300
a very well thought out planned out town for the future.

2213
03:48:56,995 --> 03:48:56,995
for me, it's important to see which direction the town decides to go.

2214
03:49:01,060 --> 03:49:01,060
as a business owner, one thing becomes very clear very quickly,

2215
03:49:05,575 --> 03:49:08,200
generating meaningful revenue without imposing higher taxes on the residents is extremely difficult.

2216
03:49:11,755 --> 03:49:11,755
that's why I stand here before you in strong support of

2217
03:49:15,970 --> 03:49:15,970
the proposed data center with roughly $414.5 million per year in tax revenue,

2218
03:49:21,220 --> 03:49:23,410
and thousands of construction jobs. This impact is real.

2219
03:49:25,510 --> 03:49:27,580
without a project like this, it would take a ton of population growth,

2220
03:49:29,770 --> 03:49:29,770
and higher taxes to generate nearly the same type of revenue.

2221
03:49:34,225 --> 03:49:38,080
there is no fast or painless alternative. Residential growth takes years to become profitable and brings added costs,

2222
03:49:42,190 --> 03:49:42,190
schools, roads, police, fire, traffic.

2223
03:49:46,255 --> 03:49:49,375
this project, it actually avoids all of that. From a business standpoint,

2224
03:49:51,175 --> 03:49:51,175
data centers provide something municipalities rarely get stable,

2225
03:49:55,270 --> 03:49:57,505
predictable, long term revenue. They don't strain schools.

2226
03:49:59,290 --> 03:50:01,375
they don't create traffic congestion, yet they fund services everybody else relies on.

2227
03:50:04,720 --> 03:50:07,990
it's important this project is being done the right way. The council has listened to concerns of the community residents and

2228
03:50:11,155 --> 03:50:11,155
also educated us about the information of this project. Thank you.

2229
03:50:15,370 --> 03:50:15,370
the applicant is willing to comply with all the town ordinances around noise,

2230
03:50:19,690 --> 03:50:22,765
cooling, and bearing their usage costs. Thank you. As someone who grew up here,

2231
03:50:24,520 --> 03:50:27,445
build a business here and plans to stay here for the future. I see this as smart growth.

2232
03:50:29,725 --> 03:50:29,725
growth that strengthens marana's future without shifting the financial burden onto us.

2233
03:50:34,270 --> 03:50:36,760
opportunities like this don't come often, and they're even rarer when they come to this level of planning,

2234
03:50:39,430 --> 03:50:42,250
protection, and long term benefit. Thank you. >> thank you. [applause]

2235
03:50:48,910 --> 03:50:51,730
>> I'm going to let you pronounce your name, so I don't. Next step will be carol clement.

2236
03:50:54,535 --> 03:50:58,525
>> good evening, mayor post. Members of the marana town council. My name is span azata.

2237
03:51:00,100 --> 03:51:01,900
I am with the arizona close. No, she was close. I've heard worse. I've heard worse.

2238
03:51:05,840 --> 03:51:09,240
span azata with the arizona technology council. It's an honor and a privilege to be here tonight.

2239
03:51:11,070 --> 03:51:13,650
thank you all for hearing all the statements, both in support and in opposition.

2240
03:51:16,020 --> 03:51:16,020
arizona technology council is supportive of this project of this rezoning.

2241
03:51:21,710 --> 03:51:25,615
whether we know it or not, we use data centers every day. If you posted a photo on instagram of your family during the holidays,

2242
03:51:29,815 --> 03:51:31,315
use the data center. If you were feeling ill and went to an urgent care during the holidays,

2243
03:51:35,920 --> 03:51:37,565
you use the data center. If you were studying for your final exam and you asked

2244
03:51:40,710 --> 03:51:44,145
the question of claude or chatgpt, you used the data center.

2245
03:51:45,780 --> 03:51:45,780
these are critical components of the 21st century economy.

2246
03:51:51,075 --> 03:51:54,510
now, arizona technology council with help from the american edge project and the technology councils of north america,

2247
03:51:58,715 --> 03:52:01,780
published a press release in december, that data centers in arizona have created over 250,000 construction careers,

2248
03:52:09,250 --> 03:52:09,250
but also nearly 40,000 technology jobs.

2249
03:52:13,825 --> 03:52:13,825
these are jobs, but they are also careers with health insurance,

2250
03:52:18,745 --> 03:52:21,805
dental, 401ks, etc. These are jobs that can sustain families.

2251
03:52:24,580 --> 03:52:24,580
if we want more of these careers in arizona,

2252
03:52:28,980 --> 03:52:30,765
in the town of marana, we need to say yes to projects like this.

2253
03:52:33,390 --> 03:52:33,390
the arizona technology council wholeheartedly support a2 and a3.

2254
03:52:41,020 --> 03:52:44,155
thank you all for your time and wish you all a happy new year. Thank you. [applause]

2255
03:52:51,790 --> 03:52:53,635
>> the next speaker is carol clement, followed by chris laria.

2256
03:53:06,060 --> 03:53:09,400
>> good evening, mayor and council. My name is carol clement,

2257
03:53:11,110 --> 03:53:11,110
and I am a registered landscape architect with the state of arizona.

2258
03:53:15,895 --> 03:53:19,060
I've been practicing landscape architecture in the sonoran desert for over 20 years now going on 30.

2259
03:53:24,390 --> 03:53:24,390
I have worked on large projects for the city of tucson,

2260
03:53:29,080 --> 03:53:32,905
pima county, and the arizona department of transportation. I'm also a member and have been for

2261
03:53:35,320 --> 03:53:35,320
several years for the city of tucson's design review committee,

2262
03:53:39,880 --> 03:53:39,880
as well as pima county's design review board.

2263
03:53:44,185 --> 03:53:46,975
often in our deliberations, we find ourselves asking the question,

2264
03:53:49,675 --> 03:53:53,200
and it has served as well. How will this project, whatever project we're reviewing?

2265
03:53:55,315 --> 03:53:55,315
how will this project benefit the people?

2266
03:53:59,995 --> 03:53:59,995
the land, in the next 20 years,

2267
03:54:06,535 --> 03:54:08,215
in the next 50 years, in the next seven generations.

2268
03:54:11,650 --> 03:54:11,650
the enormous energy demand projected for this project will

2269
03:54:17,830 --> 03:54:17,830
be generated primarily by literally water over the dam?

2270
03:54:24,010 --> 03:54:26,530
lake pow, glen canyon dam. Water over the dam.

2271
03:54:28,390 --> 03:54:32,260
we are in the tenth year, I can't remember, sorry,

2272
03:54:33,685 --> 03:54:37,210
but we are currently in a drought phase. Lake pow is predicted to reach a 77% chance of

2273
03:54:43,300 --> 03:54:43,300
reaching critically low reservoir elevation in the water year 2026,

2274
03:54:50,500 --> 03:54:50,500
77% prediction of probability.

2275
03:54:55,180 --> 03:54:55,180
now, those of you know the system know that lake mead is at zero.

2276
03:55:00,685 --> 03:55:00,685
it will take water from lake mead to feed lake pow.

2277
03:55:05,020 --> 03:55:05,020
we get the majority of our electricity from water over the dam.

2278
03:55:14,760 --> 03:55:18,160
we as desert dwellers, we work very hard,

2279
03:55:20,560 --> 03:55:20,560
and are vigilant about conservation of water and how we

2280
03:55:25,660 --> 03:55:25,660
dedicate the use of our most precious resource as desert dwellers.

2281
03:55:31,435 --> 03:55:31,435
a decision by the town to accept the data storage project as proposed,

2282
03:55:37,210 --> 03:55:39,820
even with the additional ordinances, which were very good, in my opinion,

2283
03:55:43,690 --> 03:55:43,690
at this juncture be irresponsible, disrespectful, and foolish.

2284
03:55:51,715 --> 03:55:51,715
the eyes of the future looking back to us at this moment.

2285
03:55:56,335 --> 03:55:59,635
your eyes looking back to us at this moment, 10 years, 20 years,

2286
03:56:00,910 --> 03:56:02,395
50 years down the road, I think, would not be in favor of a yes vote on this.

2287
03:56:09,265 --> 03:56:11,770
>> thank you very. >> excuse me. I'm not done. Ma'am. You've gone over your all time que.

2288
03:56:15,340 --> 03:56:19,030
>> I would like to suggest that perhaps this could be ameliorated by requiring beal construction

2289
03:56:23,545 --> 03:56:23,545
to supply 70-80% of their electrical use by site generation.

2290
03:56:32,680 --> 03:56:32,680
they say they don't have room on their roofs. Use a [inaudible]

2291
03:56:38,530 --> 03:56:38,530
>> thank you very much. We appreciate your comments tonight.

2292
03:56:44,040 --> 03:56:44,040
>> thank you. [applause]

2293
03:56:48,280 --> 03:56:48,280
>> the next speaker. The next speaker is chris laria followed by joe m. Parsons.

2294
03:56:55,650 --> 03:56:59,365
>> chris laria, if I'm saying. >> laria.

2295
03:57:00,940 --> 03:57:04,050
>> close enough, though, that works. Good evening, mayor and council.

2296
03:57:06,730 --> 03:57:08,470
typically, when I stand up here, I am dressed a little bit better and part of the design professional industry.

2297
03:57:13,750 --> 03:57:16,705
today, I am just a resident of marana. My family moved here 1999.

2298
03:57:19,000 --> 03:57:21,310
I moved here in 2001. My kids all go to musd schools.

2299
03:57:25,240 --> 03:57:25,240
my grandparents are interred at the veterans memorial cemetery.

2300
03:57:30,400 --> 03:57:33,805
I work in marana. My wife works in marana. We have just been here and we strongly support this project.

2301
03:57:44,850 --> 03:57:48,355
I have personally seen, a couple of projects come through my office in hopes that project blue,

2302
03:57:56,065 --> 03:57:58,480
would be supported and passed. When city of tucson just completely shut it down,

2303
03:58:03,490 --> 03:58:06,355
those projects were not only put on hold, but they were canceled out right.

2304
03:58:09,540 --> 03:58:09,540
I urge you all to send a loud and clear message,

2305
03:58:16,720 --> 03:58:20,560
to everybody that the town of marana, is ready for smart good development.

2306
03:58:26,335 --> 03:58:29,335
with projects like this, we will be able to build rooftops.

2307
03:58:31,945 --> 03:58:31,945
with rooftops, we will get commercial development.

2308
03:58:36,295 --> 03:58:36,295
it is a long term growth project.

2309
03:58:42,550 --> 03:58:45,640
thank you so much. Please support this project. >> thank you. [applause]

2310
03:58:51,363 --> 03:58:55,305
>> the next speaker is joe m. Parsons, followed by brad bradley, and the final speaker will be nicole borchaloui.

2311
03:59:00,280 --> 03:59:04,280
>> mayor and council, thank you for the opportunity to speak tonight. I wasn't going to speak tonight.

2312
03:59:06,620 --> 03:59:10,520
I did at the planning and zoning. But after fred spoke, I felt like I had to come up.

2313
03:59:13,010 --> 03:59:16,400
I couldn't let him be the oldest guy here. We moved to marana in 1972.

2314
03:59:19,575 --> 03:59:22,740
I'm a graduate. My wife and I are both graduates at marana high school. We raised our kids here.

2315
03:59:24,980 --> 03:59:28,350
I've had the opportunity through the years to actually beyond some of the committees that we're talking about

2316
03:59:32,730 --> 03:59:35,400
tonight and the growth when we annexed the golden triangle and it was price club at

2317
03:59:37,530 --> 03:59:39,960
the time and we didn't have to raise property taxes. We were able to go and get ahead of tucson and when we did,

2318
03:59:43,920 --> 03:59:45,210
I was on that committee. I was also on the committee when the town of marana bought the wells

2319
03:59:50,790 --> 03:59:50,790
from irrigation and bought the private water companies here in town.

2320
03:59:57,450 --> 03:59:58,830
we were looking at growth, and I always thought that this town is my hometown,

2321
04:00:02,760 --> 04:00:06,465
where you could actually approach your council and the staff and things that you don't have in big cities,

2322
04:00:11,010 --> 04:00:13,410
and I think we still do have it today. I appreciate the fact that the time that these people spend,

2323
04:00:18,360 --> 04:00:20,190
the volunteers that work on the different things that you probably don't get in the big cities.

2324
04:00:24,840 --> 04:00:24,840
I'm really appalled that anybody would say anything and to discredit

2325
04:00:30,840 --> 04:00:33,330
our council that had worked so hard and with their time for the benefit of this community.

2326
04:00:41,060 --> 04:00:44,775
I know everybody doesn't want anything in their backyard. That's in nobody's backyard.

2327
04:00:46,620 --> 04:00:47,760
it's in the perfect place. It's way out there. It's probably closer to my house than anybody here.

2328
04:00:51,030 --> 04:00:54,150
I can see their park from where I live. We've been ranchers, farmers,

2329
04:00:57,495 --> 04:00:57,495
we've been a union contractor since 1972.

2330
04:01:03,350 --> 04:01:06,570
I believe it's the right place. I couldn't remember when marana had dirt roads.

2331
04:01:09,630 --> 04:01:12,645
kirby hughes was dirt road. Barnett road was a dirt road. Tangerine didn't go through.

2332
04:01:14,565 --> 04:01:16,725
gladden farm was beautiful fields. I didn't like it coming,

2333
04:01:18,780 --> 04:01:20,410
but I didn't own the land. All I could do is be part of the process of the planning

2334
04:01:23,990 --> 04:01:27,755
and the council and planning and zoning on how they move forward, and I appreciate the fact that marana has done that and is still doing that.

2335
04:01:32,165 --> 04:01:32,165
hey, guys, back then, you could get on the freeway without having to wait for so long.

2336
04:01:38,390 --> 04:01:40,745
I think it's in a good spot. I know it'll benefit the southern arizona construction force.

2337
04:01:47,175 --> 04:01:49,620
mayor, I have just one quick thing. I won't take more time.

2338
04:01:51,210 --> 04:01:53,400
I spoke at the chamber of commerce one time when they were talking about project blue and tucson.

2339
04:01:56,730 --> 04:01:59,655
when you have a $5 billion project, there's hardly any company in phoenix or tucson big enough to do that job.

2340
04:02:06,150 --> 04:02:06,150
since there's no federal money or public money involved.

2341
04:02:10,530 --> 04:02:12,885
I would hope that there could be some type of ad hoc committees that could work with the building trades,

2342
04:02:16,560 --> 04:02:18,525
work with some local contractors, work with the general contractor where you could split this job up,

2343
04:02:22,080 --> 04:02:24,585
so it's not one $5 billion contract, but there's some other contracts where

2344
04:02:26,190 --> 04:02:26,190
some local contractors could work with the crews that they already have.

2345
04:02:31,950 --> 04:02:34,080
thank you and I totally support the project. Thank you. [applause]

2346
04:02:41,580 --> 04:02:43,455
>> the next speaker is brad bradley, and the last card is nicole borchaloui.

2347
04:02:45,750 --> 04:02:49,710
>> I wondered where you've been hiding at brad. >> there mr. Chair, right there. I had to put a jacket on.

2348
04:02:51,885 --> 04:02:54,690
hey. Good evening. Mr. Mayor, madam vice mayor, council members, appreciate it.

2349
04:02:57,540 --> 04:03:00,600
for the record, brad bradley, fire chief of the northwest fire district. Normally, we don't, as a fire district weigh in on these things.

2350
04:03:05,190 --> 04:03:09,180
by nature we're pro growth. We support all growth. Town of marana is our closest partner in that,

2351
04:03:13,545 --> 04:03:17,220
and we seek to serve the town, whatever the town's needs are. Our mission very simply is to save lives,

2352
04:03:19,350 --> 04:03:22,860
protect property, and care for the community. We don't know anything about water, we don't know anything about power,

2353
04:03:24,270 --> 04:03:26,250
we don't know anything about data centers. We just know about saving lives and protecting property and caring for our community.

2354
04:03:31,095 --> 04:03:33,870
I wanted to come here tonight to give you some perspective, add some context to your decision making.

2355
04:03:36,750 --> 04:03:40,245
unlike dr. Streeter, whatever decision you make, know that it's respected from my organization.

2356
04:03:43,530 --> 04:03:47,235
whether the town chooses to move forward with this project or not, we respect this decision that each of you are going to have to make.

2357
04:03:52,155 --> 04:03:55,590
but with that, context. Based on miss sullivan's numbers that she presented earlier,

2358
04:04:00,195 --> 04:04:02,775
relative to revenue to the fire district, $15 million over 10 years,

2359
04:04:05,310 --> 04:04:07,440
that's 1.5 per year, $1.5 million is enough to fund an entire fire station.

2360
04:04:11,310 --> 04:04:13,500
that fire station right down the street that staffed 24/7 only costs 1.2 million to staff.

2361
04:04:18,260 --> 04:04:20,490
as we move forward, we've got another station planned at twin peaks and iten.

2362
04:04:23,190 --> 04:04:23,190
we'll be going out to bond to be able to afford the station.

2363
04:04:27,585 --> 04:04:27,585
but when we look at how are we going to afford the staffing for it, it's $1.5 million.

2364
04:04:33,150 --> 04:04:36,495
that is $0.10 on our tax rate. That revenue that would come to our organization would essentially be

2365
04:04:41,955 --> 04:04:41,955
an infusion that is worth $0.10 on our current tax rate or 3% of our total budget.

2366
04:04:48,300 --> 04:04:50,865
very impactful. But with that said, like I said, we are pro growth, we support all growth.

2367
04:04:54,525 --> 04:04:54,525
the decision as it relates to what is going to be built or not built,

2368
04:04:58,755 --> 04:05:01,665
that is entirely yours. Just know that we support you, and we're here to advocate for you and be a resource for you,

2369
04:05:06,630 --> 04:05:10,200
however you choose, and we respect whatever decision you make. >> thank you very much.

2370
04:05:11,520 --> 04:05:11,520
>> welcome. [applause]

2371
04:05:18,180 --> 04:05:22,070
>> the last speaker is nicole borchaloui. Is nicole in the room? Mr. Mayor,

2372
04:05:25,830 --> 04:05:27,825
I have no other cards. >> does council have any questions for anybody in the front row there?

2373
04:05:34,070 --> 04:05:36,375
council member kavanagh. >> mayor. Thank you. I want to address,

2374
04:05:38,445 --> 04:05:38,445
are both [inaudible] here?

2375
04:05:42,495 --> 04:05:43,830
>> yeah. They're both here. >> chris and brian, I just need to get your assurance.

2376
04:05:47,595 --> 04:05:50,325
seriously. I'm sorry. That I need to get your insurance that you're going to find

2377
04:05:54,645 --> 04:05:54,645
every possible way not to raise the rates of marana rate payers.

2378
04:05:59,775 --> 04:06:01,275
is it locked tight? You cannot raise that because of the data centers.

2379
04:06:04,440 --> 04:06:07,680
the grade stress, the lack of power, the infrastructure has to come in and be there for the data centers.

2380
04:06:13,545 --> 04:06:13,545
there's no chance at all that that could be drift over into the rate payers in marana.

2381
04:06:21,360 --> 04:06:21,360
I need to get a firm assurance.

2382
04:06:27,140 --> 04:06:31,020
because that's my biggest issue. >> mayor. That's my charge from my board,

2383
04:06:38,895 --> 04:06:38,895
and so we're going to do everything we can to make sure that happens, so yes.

2384
04:06:43,845 --> 04:06:46,710
>> protect the rate payers. >> correct. >> they're going to pay for everything.

2385
04:06:48,945 --> 04:06:52,545
>> protect our members. >> yeah. Okay. >> protect our members. >> thank you. >> how about our guy from tep?

2386
04:06:59,210 --> 04:07:03,000
>> mayor, vice mayor, councilman cavanaugh. I can point to the contract that the acc

2387
04:07:05,460 --> 04:07:05,460
approved not long ago that makes those same commitments.

2388
04:07:09,525 --> 04:07:09,525
I can't speak because this contract isn't in front of us yet,

2389
04:07:13,680 --> 04:07:16,470
but I can point to what's already approved and in place by the commission and it makes those commitments that you're asking for.

2390
04:07:20,085 --> 04:07:20,085
>> is the commission sensitive to data centers being passing on costs to the rate payers?

2391
04:07:28,490 --> 04:07:30,735
>> vice mayor, council, we had a very robust discussion with the commission,

2392
04:07:33,315 --> 04:07:36,270
a lot of discovery and analysis of that contract, and they're asking the same questions you are.

2393
04:07:39,190 --> 04:07:41,960
>> I got your assurance? >> yes, sir. >> thank you.

2394
04:07:43,690 --> 04:07:43,690
>> mr. Rozema, I know that you and your staff have worked very hard over the last year,

2395
04:07:52,110 --> 04:07:54,950
better than a year. I'd really love for you to weigh in on this.

2396
04:07:58,590 --> 04:07:58,590
you're integral part of this decision.

2397
04:08:03,285 --> 04:08:03,285
I'd surely like to hear what you have to say on this matter.

2398
04:08:08,175 --> 04:08:10,650
>> mr. Mayor, vice mayor, members of council. It's been a long night, and I do appreciate the opportunity to

2399
04:08:13,890 --> 04:08:13,890
just speak on behalf of our staff and the journey that we've been on.

2400
04:08:18,780 --> 04:08:20,790
I know you're well familiar with this, but just as a reminder about a year and a half ago or so,

2401
04:08:24,495 --> 04:08:24,495
we began looking into this very seriously because of what was

2402
04:08:28,755 --> 04:08:28,755
happening in the phoenix valley and we talked among

2403
04:08:33,775 --> 04:08:36,560
staff and with the council about what we could do to ensure that some of the things that were happening in

2404
04:08:39,440 --> 04:08:42,950
the phoenix valley area as far as data centers going up right next to residential and going in places that didn't seem to make sense,

2405
04:08:46,970 --> 04:08:50,750
how could we go about preventing that from happening? Jane farrell and jason did a great job of advising

2406
04:08:54,350 --> 04:08:57,860
us and then putting together an incredible ordinance, doing a yeoman's job of doing the research and putting in

2407
04:09:02,630 --> 04:09:02,630
the work to put together a ordinance that gave 100% control to the council.

2408
04:09:09,620 --> 04:09:12,005
through that process, I will say, I think a lot of us had many of the concerns that were expressed by people here tonight.

2409
04:09:17,900 --> 04:09:21,525
going through all that and researching that, we came to the conclusion fairly quickly

2410
04:09:24,420 --> 04:09:24,420
that there was a real opportunity for us here to move forward with

2411
04:09:28,710 --> 04:09:28,710
data centers that we had the space and I know there's been

2412
04:09:34,620 --> 04:09:34,620
concerns expressed by people about the amount of the size of the data center,

2413
04:09:41,100 --> 04:09:43,020
how much space it takes up. But if you think about it in these terms,

2414
04:09:45,570 --> 04:09:45,570
we are 80,000 acres of land in the town of marana,

2415
04:09:50,175 --> 04:09:50,175
and only 21,000 of those acres are occupied with any structure or actually developed.

2416
04:09:56,385 --> 04:09:56,385
that means we get 59,000 acres of open space,

2417
04:10:00,600 --> 04:10:04,020
and this is a 600 acre parcel, so it's a very small percentage of what we have available for this town to develop.

2418
04:10:10,650 --> 04:10:13,995
again, as we proceeded with this, recognizing that there were places where

2419
04:10:16,680 --> 04:10:19,770
it made sense in places where we absolutely didn't want it, but those were, again,

2420
04:10:21,690 --> 04:10:21,690
100% rested with the decision of the council.

2421
04:10:26,910 --> 04:10:29,100
as these opportunities came forward, we began to see what advantages there were in terms of the finances.

2422
04:10:34,665 --> 04:10:34,665
it's really difficult to hear all these numbers and walk away from

2423
04:10:39,240 --> 04:10:39,240
those numbers because those are numbers that represent incredible benefits,

2424
04:10:43,815 --> 04:10:47,520
not to the people that are sitting on the dais, not to the staff of the town,

2425
04:10:50,520 --> 04:10:53,085
but to the residents of our community. But when you think about the things that we as

2426
04:10:55,530 --> 04:10:59,445
a town would love to be able to provide for our residents, things that they've been asking for.

2427
04:11:01,185 --> 04:11:01,185
now one of those we've been able to provide the aquatics and recreation center.

2428
04:11:07,170 --> 04:11:10,110
but people who live further south are asking for one now in the south portion of our community.

2429
04:11:13,440 --> 04:11:13,440
being able to build those kinds of things to provide those kinds of amenities,

2430
04:11:18,300 --> 04:11:19,950
parks, great roads, there's so much infrastructure that we have in this community that needs to be built

2431
04:11:24,720 --> 04:11:24,720
that we do not have the money available to be able to do that.

2432
04:11:29,910 --> 04:11:33,300
this provides a resource, a revenue for us to be able to fix interchanges

2433
04:11:37,920 --> 04:11:37,920
to add amenities for our community that will be highly beneficial.

2434
04:11:42,915 --> 04:11:45,360
I think many people here that spoke tonight spoke to the work that's been done by the council,

2435
04:11:50,670 --> 04:11:50,670
and especially I think those people who have worked closely with the council,

2436
04:11:54,750 --> 04:11:54,750
knowing that over a very long period of time,

2437
04:11:58,860 --> 04:12:01,650
this council has made decisions, sometimes very tough decisions,

2438
04:12:03,540 --> 04:12:03,540
that have greatly benefited this community.

2439
04:12:07,755 --> 04:12:07,755
if you think of going back,

2440
04:12:12,105 --> 04:12:13,905
you think about the golden triangle. That wasn't a very popular decision for some people here.

2441
04:12:16,845 --> 04:12:20,310
if you think about the landfill, that was a very controversial thing.

2442
04:12:22,485 --> 04:12:24,570
but when I go to the landfill, I'm sitting there for 20 minutes trying to get in because everybody's using the landfill.

2443
04:12:29,340 --> 04:12:29,340
when you think about the fact that people greatly opposed

2444
04:12:33,420 --> 04:12:33,420
the town's position of moving forward with taking over animal control,

2445
04:12:37,650 --> 04:12:40,880
there was a lot of opposition to that. We move forward with that and did that,

2446
04:12:43,680 --> 04:12:46,950
and it's been a great advantage to this community. I think with what staff has done,

2447
04:12:50,235 --> 04:12:50,235
we feel that we have done what we can do and need to do in order to put

2448
04:12:55,170 --> 04:12:55,170
this in front of the council for you to make a decision that will greatly benefit.

2449
04:12:59,940 --> 04:13:02,235
we've said this over and over, at the end of the day, if a data center is beneficial to the town of marana and our residents,

2450
04:13:06,285 --> 04:13:08,640
it's going to happen, and if it's not beneficial, it's not going to happen.

2451
04:13:10,620 --> 04:13:10,620
I think we're at a point where the staff have put together

2452
04:13:16,710 --> 04:13:16,710
an ordinance that needs to be met by data center users.

2453
04:13:23,085 --> 04:13:25,740
they've met it, and they've checked all the boxes. We've done the work,

2454
04:13:27,270 --> 04:13:29,400
and we feel we're at that place. Now, I will just say this because

2455
04:13:34,770 --> 04:13:34,770
this is maybe a little bit out of left field,

2456
04:13:40,980 --> 04:13:40,980
maybe for some people, but I've heard it from a number of individuals in the audience.

2457
04:13:45,750 --> 04:13:49,650
I think maybe this council needs to hear some of this. Over the last number of weeks and even going back

2458
04:13:52,770 --> 04:13:55,410
further during an annexation issue that we had. This council has taken a lot of heat,

2459
04:13:57,495 --> 04:13:57,495
and some of your integrity and your character has been questioned,

2460
04:14:03,300 --> 04:14:03,300
and you've been attacked personally as a result of that.

2461
04:14:07,850 --> 04:14:11,115
prior to about five years ago, I knew each one of you,

2462
04:14:13,200 --> 04:14:16,170
but I didn't know you as well as I do now having worked closely with you for the last five years.

2463
04:14:19,890 --> 04:14:19,890
maybe it's not my job to defend the individuals on the council,

2464
04:14:24,510 --> 04:14:28,140
but I feel really quite frankly compelled. One of them is not here, herb kai, and,

2465
04:14:32,040 --> 04:14:35,865
his character and reputation have been called into question, mayor, vice mayor, patty,

2466
04:14:37,950 --> 04:14:37,950
a number of you your character has been greatly called into question.

2467
04:14:48,105 --> 04:14:50,325
having known you for five years, I know that that is 100% unwarranted.

2468
04:14:54,315 --> 04:14:54,315
I just think that you ought to know that the people that work for

2469
04:14:58,710 --> 04:14:58,710
you and the people that work closely with you understand and they know that.

2470
04:15:03,855 --> 04:15:06,300
maybe you don't need to hear that from me. But I felt like I needed to say that because quite frankly in about a month or so,

2471
04:15:11,730 --> 04:15:11,730
I'm up for my annual review.

2472
04:15:16,580 --> 04:15:19,380
that concludes my remarks, mr. Mayor. [applause]

2473
04:15:27,357 --> 04:15:27,357
>> [applause] I do want to point out that we have this giant stack of

2474
04:15:31,860 --> 04:15:31,860
letters overwhelmingly in support, I think,

2475
04:15:36,705 --> 04:15:36,705
jason, 34 were wishy washy.

2476
04:15:43,800 --> 04:15:43,800
[background]

2477
04:15:49,650 --> 04:15:53,550
>> mr. Mayor, the stack of papers that were presented to you represent all the comments that were received by the town and

2478
04:15:57,450 --> 04:15:57,450
delivered to my office as a central depository.

2479
04:16:01,790 --> 04:16:01,790
the total number of letters is 96 and the breakdown of those were 56 were in support,

2480
04:16:12,000 --> 04:16:12,000
32 are against and eight were general statements.

2481
04:16:17,160 --> 04:16:17,160
>> thank you very much. For the record, we have these.

2482
04:16:21,165 --> 04:16:24,315
is there anything anybody else would like to say? >> I'd like to address our town manager.

2483
04:16:27,795 --> 04:16:27,795
teri, thank you so much for all your help and your staff during this time.

2484
04:16:33,600 --> 04:16:33,600
I liked your speech, especially near the end when you said your review was coming up.

2485
04:16:38,580 --> 04:16:40,740
I got a couple of things to talk to you about that. [laughter] lastly, and I think most of you who know me,

2486
04:16:45,465 --> 04:16:48,750
I'm pretty easy going unless you attack me. You attack my character,

2487
04:16:50,625 --> 04:16:52,710
you attack my ethics, you attack my reputation.

2488
04:16:55,515 --> 04:16:58,275
I apologize to you people, most of you, not all of you.

2489
04:17:00,180 --> 04:17:00,180
with one person, I'm not apologizing to.

2490
04:17:04,940 --> 04:17:04,940
I worked for government contracts for 30 years,

2491
04:17:09,840 --> 04:17:12,075
and I had a secret coherence. I got pretty much looked after for a long time,

2492
04:17:15,750 --> 04:17:19,125
and I had great parents, and they taught me a lot of things. When somebody impugns me and says things like this gentleman here did,

2493
04:17:26,700 --> 04:17:30,090
and ridiculous things like I was up at 3:00 in the morning. I don't think anybody cares.

2494
04:17:31,920 --> 04:17:31,920
but anyway, I get a little upset.

2495
04:17:36,705 --> 04:17:39,705
I am sorry, I said a bad word; most of the council is used to that.

2496
04:17:44,150 --> 04:17:46,350
I thank you, teri, for coming to my defense.

2497
04:17:50,780 --> 04:17:54,090
again, I want to thank the staff. Lastly, quickly, our ordinance,

2498
04:17:57,555 --> 04:18:00,210
I don't want to forget about our ordinance. Most of you, as you've heard,

2499
04:18:02,610 --> 04:18:04,530
I think miss sullivan said it, it's the only one out there right now on data centers, is that correct?

2500
04:18:08,835 --> 04:18:12,080
I think most of it. >> mayor, vice mayor, members of the council.

2501
04:18:15,060 --> 04:18:18,840
it's not necessarily the only one. That's the only one that was done in advance of any data centers actually coming into play,

2502
04:18:22,830 --> 04:18:25,590
and it's one of the very few that are actually out there. >> thank you, sir. Thank you for that.

2503
04:18:28,290 --> 04:18:30,450
let's listen to teri on that one, but we are very close to being

2504
04:18:33,810 --> 04:18:33,810
a municipality that realized we had to adopt something like this.

2505
04:18:39,465 --> 04:18:43,320
we need to thank our friends up in chandler, that's where we learned it, the mayor, hartke, there,

2506
04:18:45,315 --> 04:18:49,290
and josh wright, who is now back to u of a, working here in town.

2507
04:18:51,675 --> 04:18:53,790
they're the ones who told us about it. They said you need to go in and they had data centers up there,

2508
04:18:57,000 --> 04:18:58,995
too, for a while. That was one of the best pieces of advice that we ever got.

2509
04:19:03,510 --> 04:19:03,510
our staff got together and they wrote it along

2510
04:19:07,650 --> 04:19:07,650
with jane and the rest of the staff and I think it's a wonderful document.

2511
04:19:13,515 --> 04:19:13,515
I think it's what kicked us off and got us started,

2512
04:19:19,800 --> 04:19:23,250
and I don't want to lose sight of that ordinance. Maybe as things change,

2513
04:19:26,130 --> 04:19:28,500
we might have to amend that over the years, but I just want to put that ordinance out there

2514
04:19:33,090 --> 04:19:33,090
and what has helped us get through these negotiations. Thank you.

2515
04:19:42,350 --> 04:19:42,350
>> I was really very heartened to see a longtime resident, david morals,

2516
04:19:50,100 --> 04:19:53,280
who has been at the center of this town for many years, stand up in support of this and joe parsons as well.

2517
04:19:58,050 --> 04:19:58,050
they said marana does things differently.

2518
04:20:04,710 --> 04:20:08,535
we have always done things differently. In 2024, the city of tucson lost jobs.

2519
04:20:15,830 --> 04:20:15,830
they have serious issues with homeless people, with drugs,

2520
04:20:22,905 --> 04:20:22,905
they have issue, and they avoid doing things

2521
04:20:27,840 --> 04:20:27,840
in that community that would seriously help that situation.

2522
04:20:33,680 --> 04:20:36,045
marana can't do that. Marana cannot be the community that ignores opportunities.

2523
04:20:41,235 --> 04:20:41,235
people are fixated on this data center.

2524
04:20:45,840 --> 04:20:48,570
this is not necessarily the way I view this. I view this as a job center, a job growth,

2525
04:20:52,230 --> 04:20:55,290
an area where jobs are going to be created, not necessarily at this data center,

2526
04:20:57,300 --> 04:20:58,710
that will be the nucleus, but next to it, next to that,

2527
04:21:01,650 --> 04:21:01,650
we're going to create an area in our community where jobs are going to come.

2528
04:21:07,080 --> 04:21:07,080
I've talked to hundreds of people over the last year.

2529
04:21:12,990 --> 04:21:15,795
they talk about jobs for their kids, jobs for their grandkids,

2530
04:21:17,415 --> 04:21:19,260
their kids having to move out, live somewhere else because they can't find jobs here.

2531
04:21:22,215 --> 04:21:25,215
they got to travel to phoenix to visit their kids. I look at the success of phoenix metro and I say,

2532
04:21:28,950 --> 04:21:32,085
hey, why can't we get some of that? We don't need all of it,

2533
04:21:34,560 --> 04:21:36,255
we just need a little bit. A little bit would help our community in such an amazing way.

2534
04:21:40,905 --> 04:21:42,945
we need monies for our schools, we need money for our public safety.

2535
04:21:45,435 --> 04:21:47,790
teri talked about parks. For our public safety, marana,

2536
04:21:50,295 --> 04:21:53,715
we do not want to forget about that. That is another thing that marana has done very well.

2537
04:22:00,350 --> 04:22:00,350
I've got to go to the bathroom [laughter]

2538
04:22:05,340 --> 04:22:05,340
and so I'm just going to go ahead and make a motion to approve ordinance number

2539
04:22:09,360 --> 04:22:09,360
2026.002 and the resolution

2540
04:22:14,400 --> 04:22:14,400
2026-005 with the additional condition added,

2541
04:22:20,025 --> 04:22:22,860
and hope for a second. >> second. >> I'll second that. >> roll call vote, please.

2542
04:22:24,930 --> 04:22:27,720
>> council member, officer? >> yay. >> council member murphy?

2543
04:22:29,130 --> 04:22:32,070
>> yes. >> council member comerford. >> yes. >> council member kavanagh.

2544
04:22:33,945 --> 04:22:37,020
>> before I vote, I want you to know, I need a lot of trust.

2545
04:22:39,645 --> 04:22:42,150
I need to trust in the power companies. I need to trust in beal,

2546
04:22:43,725 --> 04:22:46,200
being able to get the power you need, the power companies to provide that power.

2547
04:22:50,400 --> 04:22:54,165
nothing goes on the marana citizens. I came in here today thinking I was going to vote no on this.

2548
04:22:59,385 --> 04:22:59,385
but what I've heard from the citizens of this town,

2549
04:23:03,675 --> 04:23:06,300
most of them, not all, but most of them. I've learned from you people,

2550
04:23:08,205 --> 04:23:11,715
from people I really love and trust. The superintendent of schools,

2551
04:23:13,770 --> 04:23:17,120
the marana chamber of commerce. I love the northwest fire department.

2552
04:23:20,910 --> 04:23:24,540
the union workers, my god, you brought tears to my eyes.

2553
04:23:26,325 --> 04:23:30,135
I know you need work. It's going to take a lot. We can do this.

2554
04:23:33,410 --> 04:23:36,630
my biggest problems were just the unknowns, but I'm trusting there's that trust word,

2555
04:23:39,360 --> 04:23:42,525
that you will find the knowns for the unknowns, and you will make it known to the marana citizens.

2556
04:23:46,650 --> 04:23:49,875
we're going to do this, but we have to do it right. My vote is now a yes.

2557
04:23:52,920 --> 04:23:52,920
[applause]

2558
04:24:07,680 --> 04:24:08,820
>> vice mayor ziegler. [applause]

2559
04:24:14,240 --> 04:24:17,420
>> make sure she leaves the building. >> who was that? >> I don't know.

2560
04:24:18,545 --> 04:24:22,220
>> vice mayor ziegler. >> vice mayor ziegler. >> absolutely. >> mayor post.

2561
04:24:23,255 --> 04:24:25,580
>> aye. >> the votes are 6-0. The motion passes. [applause]

2562
04:24:36,450 --> 04:24:38,700
>> we will take a short break. We will take a short recess and come back and finish the other two items.

2563
04:24:43,080 --> 04:24:44,940
I'm going to say five minutes, but I'm sure it's going to be a touch longer.

2564
04:24:47,280 --> 04:24:50,150
>> I'll handle that? >> we are back in session, 8(3).

2565
04:24:56,340 --> 04:24:58,395
>> item 8(3), public hearing, ordinance number 2026.003,

2566
04:25:00,840 --> 04:25:00,840
relating to development, approving a rezoning of approximately 310.7 acres of land,

2567
04:25:06,105 --> 04:25:08,895
located at 14990 west harden road, northwest of the intersection of north lockett road and west harden road,

2568
04:25:12,285 --> 04:25:15,780
from r144 residential to sp specific plan, creating the lockett road south specific plan and

2569
04:25:18,030 --> 04:25:20,355
approving a minor amendment to the general plan, amending the land use category from employment to master planned area.

2570
04:25:23,910 --> 04:25:23,910
resolution number 2026-006 relating to development,

2571
04:25:28,215 --> 04:25:30,900
declaring as a public record filed with the town clerk, the locket road south specific plan,

2572
04:25:32,685 --> 04:25:36,105
adopted by ordinance number 2026.003. >> mr. Angel.

2573
04:25:37,695 --> 04:25:41,490
>> mayor post. I thought about asking mr. Rozema if I could pull the infamous frank cassidy and say,

2574
04:25:44,910 --> 04:25:48,285
you've heard this. But I'll get [overlapping] >> frankly, no. >> frankly, no. Thank you. Mayor post,

2575
04:25:51,150 --> 04:25:53,100
vice mayor ziegler, council, this item is ordinance number 2026-003 in resolution 2026-006.

2576
04:25:59,450 --> 04:25:59,450
this is the lockett road south data center,

2577
04:26:03,600 --> 04:26:05,820
the other half of the project. This property is also represented by lazath and sullivan,

2578
04:26:10,755 --> 04:26:10,755
representing herbert kai s12 llc,

2579
04:26:16,320 --> 04:26:18,615
kai trust 97 s12, llc in jihong s12 llc,

2580
04:26:23,175 --> 04:26:25,095
which are the property owners. The rezoning is also for going from

2581
04:26:27,840 --> 04:26:27,840
an r-144 to a specific plan for the purpose of a data center use,

2582
04:26:32,535 --> 04:26:36,240
also including a minor amendment to the 2040 general plan. The site is also approximately 300 acres in size,

2583
04:26:40,350 --> 04:26:42,615
currently zoned r-144, and once again, the general plan has it as employment.

2584
04:26:47,205 --> 04:26:49,290
same categories apply here. Same existing property uses exist adjacent to the property,

2585
04:26:55,080 --> 04:26:57,090
veterans cemetery to the east, agricultural uses active agriculture to the west and south,

2586
04:27:01,905 --> 04:27:04,905
solar energy field to the northwest, and then the surface mining operation a little bit to the north there.

2587
04:27:10,190 --> 04:27:10,190
this is a repeat from the last slide just citing the section of the last presentation.

2588
04:27:16,500 --> 04:27:18,945
once again, these are the six criteria, the baseline criteria for the data center ordinance.

2589
04:27:22,440 --> 04:27:24,540
for this same application, the applicant is representing that they are meeting all sections of the town code.

2590
04:27:29,790 --> 04:27:32,310
they're not asking for any exceptions or variances, so they're in full compliance with the code requirements.

2591
04:27:36,075 --> 04:27:36,075
the difference on this application or one of the differences is the power provider.

2592
04:27:40,125 --> 04:27:43,845
the power provider for this site is tep. Same megawatt projections or ranges are shown here.

2593
04:27:49,440 --> 04:27:52,305
once again, marana water will provide the portable water for the office or the domestic use of the operation.

2594
04:27:57,390 --> 04:27:57,390
cmid will provide irrigation industrial and fire suppression,

2595
04:28:01,575 --> 04:28:05,570
and wastewater will be provided by marana water. The infrastructure, same type of infrastructure is outlined here,

2596
04:28:10,125 --> 04:28:10,125
roadway extension of lockett road up to panel air park road.

2597
04:28:14,805 --> 04:28:14,805
the water extension is approximately three miles for the potable water.

2598
04:28:18,870 --> 04:28:18,870
the wastewater is approximately two mile extension with a lift station,

2599
04:28:23,085 --> 04:28:25,320
and drainage is once again that five mile regional drainage channel and their portion of that within the site.

2600
04:28:31,320 --> 04:28:31,320
mr. Mayor, would you like me to go through the breakdown of costing?

2601
04:28:35,670 --> 04:28:39,390
I'm available, if anyone needs clarification. You're welcome. This is a conceptual site plan,

2602
04:28:41,730 --> 04:28:43,050
which shows once again, the substation to be located within this 300 acre site,

2603
04:28:46,890 --> 04:28:48,300
as well as the buffers, drainage, and buildable areas there.

2604
04:28:51,270 --> 04:28:51,270
planning commission once again held a public hearing on this one back

2605
04:28:56,310 --> 04:28:56,310
on december 10th and voted unanimously to recommend approval 6-0.

2606
04:29:01,425 --> 04:29:04,155
as was stated in the last one, this is a discretionary item for the council.

2607
04:29:07,755 --> 04:29:11,175
if you'd like to, we would ask that you approve this with the recommended conditions that are outlined in the ordinance,

2608
04:29:15,615 --> 04:29:15,615
and also the additional condition that we had read previously,

2609
04:29:20,460 --> 04:29:22,845
and you have a hard copy on there. With that, I will gladly take any questions otherwise after that [overlapping]

2610
04:29:28,350 --> 04:29:30,555
>> this is a public hearing. I now declare the public hearing open.

2611
04:29:32,880 --> 04:29:36,600
do we have any speaker cards for this, jill? >> mr. Mayor, I have one, and I messed up his name earlier.

2612
04:29:38,280 --> 04:29:39,540
I'm not going to try again. [laughter].

2613
04:29:47,910 --> 04:29:50,330
>> the band is back. Thank you all, once again, arizona technology council.

2614
04:29:54,480 --> 04:29:56,490
we are in support of this. I'm just going to end with this and say,

2615
04:29:59,175 --> 04:30:02,190
thank you all for everything you've done tonight. Thank you to city staff, city manager,

2616
04:30:04,380 --> 04:30:07,755
everybody who's made this possible. I know I don't live in marana,

2617
04:30:10,080 --> 04:30:11,940
but I feel like it's going to be a good year here. I don't know about you guys. Thank you all very much. Appreciate it.

2618
04:30:15,210 --> 04:30:16,620
>> thank you very much. Do we have any other? [applause]

2619
04:30:19,350 --> 04:30:22,770
>> no, mr. Mayor. That's the only card I have. >> I declare this public hearing closed. Is there any questions that the council might have for anybody in this room?

2620
04:30:27,885 --> 04:30:30,825
would anybody like to make a motion? >> I'll make a motion, mr. Mayor.

2621
04:30:32,580 --> 04:30:33,795
>> vice mayor? >> I have a question. I can ask publicly from here.

2622
04:30:39,380 --> 04:30:43,290
what's this? The additional. You want me to add this. >> yes, please.

2623
04:30:44,700 --> 04:30:48,525
>> I moved to approve ordinance 2026-003, approving and rezoning of approximately

2624
04:30:51,570 --> 04:30:51,570
310.7 acres of land located at 14990 west harding road,

2625
04:30:58,530 --> 04:30:58,530
from r-144 residential to specific plan,

2626
04:31:02,550 --> 04:31:06,315
creating the elche road south specific plan, and approving a minor amendment to

2627
04:31:08,790 --> 04:31:08,790
the general plan and a minor amendment to the general plan,

2628
04:31:14,985 --> 04:31:14,985
amending the land, use category from employment to master plan area.

2629
04:31:21,915 --> 04:31:25,185
resolution number 2026-006, declaring a public record filed with the town clerk,

2630
04:31:28,935 --> 04:31:28,935
the lockett road south specific plan adopted by ordinance 2026-003.

2631
04:31:35,780 --> 04:31:35,780
then jane, I will also add that we will be adding

2632
04:31:41,370 --> 04:31:41,370
this additional condition regarding and do I need to read this, the decommissioning.

2633
04:31:47,565 --> 04:31:49,920
>> mayor post, vice mayor ziegler, you don't need to read it, you could refer to it.

2634
04:31:52,005 --> 04:31:52,005
did you want to add the condition that you have on the dais there related

2635
04:31:56,910 --> 04:31:56,910
to decontinuation of the use of data centers as jason mentioned?

2636
04:32:03,380 --> 04:32:06,285
>> that's my motion, jill. >> we have a motion?

2637
04:32:08,085 --> 04:32:11,985
>> yes. Thank you. >> do we have a second? >> second. >> you have a motion and a second. Roll call vote, please?

2638
04:32:13,155 --> 04:32:16,410
>> council member officer. >> yeah. >> council member murphy? >> yeah. >> council member comerford.

2639
04:32:17,275 --> 04:32:21,090
>> yeah. >> council member kavanagh? >> yes. >> vice mayor ziegler. >> yes.

2640
04:32:21,945 --> 04:32:24,420
>> mayor post? >> yes. >> the votes are 6-0. The motion passes. [applause]

2641
04:32:32,310 --> 04:32:36,225
>> future agenda items. Motion to adjourn? >> second.

2642
04:32:37,065 --> 04:32:37,065
>> second. All in favor. We are adjourned.