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is 1 o'clock Thursday, August 27th and welcome to our Collier County commissioners

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in Marco Island City Council Joint Workshop. As the Laundress a few things. Rules

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of decorum are in effect for counselors, for commissioners, for staffing, for attendees.

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If you could, please silence your phones and and vibrate. Also a reminder for the

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commissioners and for the counselors or makes a tournament. The comment not

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only hot meal here, everything some tournament ready speak. Their thumbs if anybody needs

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to my left inside here. We water coffee, tea cookies and some snacks in the kitchen.

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Over here to my front right? So please. Commissioner made as I did, they beat your

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approval or the cookies are not any good. I think there's a little joking going on

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there. I suspect I 2 of And would you please call the roll? Counsel Henry here

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Councilor Kohler. Councilor don't Care. Vice Chair Champagne Council Councilor

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Gray Chair Palumbo Year. Commissioner Locastro here, Commissioner Hall Commissioner

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Saunders. Vice Chair McDaniel here chair Koegel. If you are able please stand,

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commissioner, look at going to lead us in the Pledge of Allegiance. I pledge

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allegiance to flag and United States of America and to the Republic for which it One

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nation indivisible, with and justice for all. All right, guys, we're on to item for the

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business. We're here for couple of thoughts as this is informal, right. And for those

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watching or attending, this is a workshop. We don't vote. We don't give consensus. This is

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a conversation. This is a thought on some directions and basically brainstorming and

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sharing ideas. County commissioners, manager Patterson, I appreciate

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everybody else. You should appreciate coming down. The market's been a while since we

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got together. So we've been looking forward to this for for a while. Hands little

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raised. If you want to talk or just jump right in, but we don't just give us a wave of

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will make sure we get A and the list topics. Discussion of topics. morning. Before

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thoughts or ideas before we get started. ride was just go ahead and dive right into it.

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Like we had discussed previously. There's a couple items that we might want to

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bring county manager up Give us some more insight on procedural because my come up

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against things that. The county and the local city don't have really jurisdiction

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to address on our own might have bring a 3rd party and like the state of the Fed so

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they can kind bring us up to speed on some of those items when we come across them that

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not wasting a lot of valuable time discussing something. We can't really work out

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ourselves here. But they can then brief us on what we can do how we can bring other

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parties in to help shade it. Heads up on that. And we have both of our managers here and

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we know thing could be remiss if I didn't say that the backbone, both of these

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commissions and councils without them, things will be difficult us. Police absolute.

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appreciate it. You know, as a district, one commissioner and I mean, I can walk here from

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my probably had the shortest drive. I make a few opening comments. First, I want to

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thank our county manager and city manager for working so closely together. We've been

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discussing this joint session for quite some time. And although I've read like, you

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know, whose idea was it? It's often been said there's no amount of good you can do if

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you don't care who gets the credit. And I think we deserve the credit or maybe nobody

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does. at the county, not only were we looking forward to meeting we have on the

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calendar joint session with the city of Naples, possibly meeting with the city of

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Everglades or even meeting with Lee County Commissioners. Something I had said to the

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chairman of one of you all may want to get together meet with the city of Naples, even

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though you know, you might not have that much overlap. I'm a separate municipality's

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comparing notes on how you work with the county how you do things could be a great, a

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great idea. So that might be something to take a look at I really welcome this gathering.

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And when I was talking Commissioner Cole because we'll obviously be doing this

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with the city Naples. This is a good opportunity for us separate rumors from facts,

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but also for I know that I'm mark a lot of citizens. Watch this on TV sometimes I can

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tell by the e-mails I get and I'm sure by the ones that City Council gets even citizens out

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of lived on the island for a really long time off and are confused by the separation of

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responsibility is, you get an email saying you should do You do this. You should do this.

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And I said, well, that's actually 7 elected city Knox also, I appreciate when the

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city council or city manager pushes me a note and says, hey, this is all county. So I

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think we do a great job, you know, and I wanted to really voice my appreciation for how

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well I believe that we are working together. I did want to

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we can't answer it here we're not here to have a big, long debate as as chairman of the

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Colombo said, we certainly can take some things as I as homework assignments. But, you

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know, a close race thank the Katy City Council how they enter interact with me and

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with the county as a whole. And I think, you know, we've had I know we've had an awful

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lot of success. Is that I'm uonversation. I want to jump in are quick and sign. If

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you want to comment on this. Police Commissioner Saunders. The quick comment I think I

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have is turned on now. When this tax passed in 2018 is a little bit of history that I

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think important. Gonxpert and M if Chris has anything chime in, but when he and I were

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speaking about this because this was has been on our agenda, was any kind of big

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surprise. One of the things he said it is commissioner. We've actually emails or some earlita

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But no, it's it's this is a tax that will go on for a long time. And the first priority

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in terms that, 60% portion is going to be complete the Harris Co Sports Complex. But

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this is going to go on the money for advertising to money for other types of beach

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projects and things? Well, I think that would love to have more of that conversation to

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understand that because that's for the reason if we're going to put that one percent tax on

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now, knowing. How the plan of distribution. Their decisions you guys make. Our citizens

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pay a whole lot of taxes to Collier County. The one percent tax will be paid by

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our citizens as well as tourists. But we need to know what's coming to us in order

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to know to support it. Okay. That salute would correct. Please. Here's the citizens of

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Marco Island. The citizens of Marco Island. They stay at hotel worry that the

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restaurant where the TV taxes collected. is the work and that this is that's purely

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nights. Not a one percent sales tax. Purely on the head tax for hotels and session and

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it's a tdt textures development. Okay. And so and then we are relegated by

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statute is too where those funds go. So that's that's direction now. And I think

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that needs to be clarified because I think most people are thinking this is a one

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percent sales tax once again as big microphones working think that's something that

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needs to be projected to the public. And then I and on the one percent sales tax is I was

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one of the 2 dissenting votes when that came through the last time it did pass by less

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than one-half of one percent of people that showed up take early vote that year. I concur

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wholeheartedly with Commissioner Saunders with regard to the impetus behind

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it. If we're going to do it, there has to be a plan and then investment. The in fact

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is made. I have to share out loud. I am not in favor of it. I am not in favor. I wasn't in

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favor of before. It did do an enormous amount of good for our community because of the

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dedication of those funds. That was stipulated where those funds were going to be.

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be invested. But I I I. I think with the climate that we're currently in right now,

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the unknown that we're all about the face coming here in November. Whether or not that

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referenda that's on the ballot this fall passes or not. We have to wait. See number the

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week later in Tallahassee to put the bumpers on to say it could they have to write

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legislation after this constitutional amendment passes or doesn't then

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legislation has come out of legislature as to how that money's going to go. What

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cause of they've obligated to assist municipalities and special districts withdrew

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regard to potential revenue funding shortages. They could transpire. If that if that

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referenda, in fact passes. So before I'm going to commit to any kind of additional

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taxation have to wait and see with with regard to what's going in fact, transpired

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here. The Saunders had his hand up first. We'll come back here. It just just real

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quickly that's think what you just said really points out. The difficulty that we do

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have, as you mentioned. The citizens of Marco Island and the Commissioner McDaniel

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mentioned restaurants. Restaurants collect this tax list. They have to be sure

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less they happen to be having a room that they right now. So point is that I'm making is

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that this is a tax on short-term rentals that sit Airbnbs and the difficulty

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were the folks that really know what's going on. And still this confusion. The we

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have a campaign to educate public that this is attacks on tourist only pours. The

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citizens of Marco Island are good paying less. They stay Airbnb. And so. That's a

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critical message. Get out that also going back years ago. I think Marco Island collected

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about 25% of tourist tax collected counties is a big number. I don't know what

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percentage goes back Marco Island directly, but you're right, collect a lot lot. A

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lot of it. And hopefully Marc was getting its fair share. I don't know the answer to that.

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We needed. We need to educate public we have a campaign going on now. For November

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ballot. I'd like just are little more clarification on it, too, because it's we don't

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collect that actually. You understand the hotel industry collects tax, then their

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responsibilities distribute to the state and then everything is backup like you said,

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Commissioner Saunders is we don't know. You know how division comes. I don't know

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personally know what Marco gets back from that, you know, directly but I know we get a

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portion and we've been we have were handcuffed on. What part we can spend on what this and

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And is. probably needs to be looked at in the future by Tallahassee. You know, some of

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these strings attached to it. But that's something that for a later date. lot of people in

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climber Ms understood that. I think we collect that tax. date that's collected by the

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industry, not So just let you know. Thank you. Commissioner Locastro is going to be next.

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And I get to I think the other clarification isn't just for citizens, but it's to the

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media. You know, to your your comment. I I've seen articles that say that Khalid basically

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the sports complex tax and as Commissioner Saunders said it's could be if it was if it

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passes in November for many other things, but also too, even if one to all of the

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commissioners here. Thank the sports complex. Should be the key benefactor say of this

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tax. We don't have to decide that. So it's not like it's passed in November. And all of

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a sudden millions are automatically thrown in the sports complex. I can tell you

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that might be one or 2 of us here. That aren't quite convinced. So we'll wait and

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see what happens in November and that money would get collected. But how it is spent

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still needs to be presented, agreed upon. It's not an automatic. So there's been a

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lot of news media articles make it just sound like automatically. If it's passed,

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millions just don't get siphon to the sports complex. And that's not true. It'll be a

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pot of money. Commissioner Cole explained it perfectly. That doesn't immediately come

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to us. And then if we want chip away at that or utilize in some way, I'm sure they'll

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be a lot of presentations, not just from the sports comlex, but follow up with an outgoing

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vice with just a clarification. county commission passed a resolution

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indicating that the first expenditure for tax would be the sports field facility. Now

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I asked the board to do that because I needed the tourist industry to support this tax

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because of that because of our commitment to the Paradise Coast Park and those sports

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fields too. Provide diamond sports for the summertime. The Florida restaurant Lodging

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Association campaigns for because they know that will generate tourism in the

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summer. So there is a commitment on the part of commission and it's been

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distributed to the public that we're going to build those fields with the first portion

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of that, the first 60%. But again, that other 40% goes to everything else. So we do have

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that commitment. When that first portion. Council shipping that. Thank you. I

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think my basic question is, is Marco Island. Sure there will be in the allocation of this

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6. $0.06 tax when it is assuming the positive that passes. We automatically a

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beneficiary or do we have to apply for each and every opportunity that we can

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identify? I would prefer obviously is is he city councilor that we're one of

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the Dana 5 beneficiaries of whatever money is collected and allocated. Is the island

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or dramatically. Who is the money allocated to account here she comes kind good

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morning or good afternoon. I'm Amy Patterson. I'm the county manager and thank you so much

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for having us first. Just a matter of housekeeping on your questions about where people

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can find out more information on this initiative. We have a full schedule. In fact, sheet

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at Collier, Tdt dot com. We have 12 informational meetings going on. Actually, the second

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one is tonight at the South Regional Library. There will be one on Marco Island on the

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30th of September. So folks that are interested, we're having these meetings

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throughout the county so that people can come and find out the factual information on the

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tourist development tax and the uses of this proposed $0.06 So the answer to your

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question is both. There are things that automatically come to Marco and opportunities for

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Marco to receive supplemental tourist development dollars. So our beach renourishment

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program and some of the navigable passes are in our coastal zone program. And

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those are regular recipients of tourist development dollars for those for for those

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projects. You recall Tiger Tail Beach and Sand Dollar Island is a new one that's

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made its way onto that project. Listen, has been supported by tourist

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development dollars. Beach renourishment, the dune plantings and some of the

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other inlet dredging is however, similar to the city of Naples. We plan to work

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with your staff on some of your other needs. That may be coastal related or tourism

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related and you have the opportunity to come through the tourist development

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process to request additional dollars. So the answer is is both there are there's money

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that is in the program for Marco and the potential our coach or quest additional

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dollars from the And you do receive marketing dollars that indirectly via the hotels that

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received those dollars down here on Marco Island. Thank you for that answer. But

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continuing along vein. We'll assume continue Newseum, the positive that it passes. 2

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eventually published the allocation list. Item by project by City. By Prof every

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year we go through our annual budget process, which includes that process for the award of

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the tourist development dollars to the various entities, both public and

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private, as well as the work plans for the county. So that's through our coastal

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zone county museums in any other recipient. So, yes, this is an annual. So when you

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publish that data. Re free as a city to further publish it to make sure people are fully

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aware where there's money is being allocated and what projects and yes, certainly is

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around. are all public records for informational meeting you're going to be holding and

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say thank you for doing that. More information is better than less. Will you produce a

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document on what? Put what you're going to be discussing orally so that we can put it

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on social media. people can read it. Yes, sir. again, we have the full schedule enough

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actually currently at Collier Tdt dot com. So you could either pull that information

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down for as the city or you could link to it, OK? Very good. Thank you. You're

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welcome. I can give you a quick example of the but with the county managers told

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there's certain programs that automatically your money generated from the Tdc. Now, a

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quick example. A few years back. The Naples Pier Project. Then a little bit of shortfall

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going into it. They've documented in the request through loss to get an

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additional moneys. And we got their money's granted through grant through PVC was and a

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3 million dollar grant towards the project because you can articulate. That is definitely

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tourism item. So that way state, they're okay with that. But you can't. So you just

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want to resurface the road or something. Understand you can dip into spots. But that's a

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perfect example how they got an additional 3 million dollars for take. project is

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death to definitely related to tourism. That typically is not in the bubble. They get on a

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regular basis. Just give you an idea. Just the council voted to end. I long question

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about the tourist development tax. I know we cut that percentage that goes amount

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that goes 2 for a furnished taking care of the beaches.

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needs Is that a local okay. All right. So I want to be too loud there. so what is the

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process that we can actually as a municipality come and ask for more funds? I understand

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that where tear that comes from the we love the help our economy without a doubt and

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keep our businesses grow and prosper. But the same time we have a lot of wear and tear as

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well. And I know day infrastructure perhaps is not part of the tourist

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development tax. Is it any other way, any other foster we can ask for from as a re font

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to the our municipality. Amy Patterson again. So for tourist development, there

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specially can such a tightly controlled dollars so it's prescribed what they can be

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spent on typically. We understand the tourism promotions and marketing.

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That's that's one section. We understand those direct benefit, the beaches inlets

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and those other direct tourism's tourism. However, there is the ability to use

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towards development dollars on some types of infrastructure. For certain amount of money

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provided that there is a study commissioned that proves that that infrastructure benefits,

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tourism. So it's not an absolute answer. However, each project has to be evaluated on

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a case-by-case basis. And so if it's not specifically prescribed like the like the

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promotions or like our beach activities. Then there's different process that you

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would go through to make that request. It requires an independent study and other

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things so we can certainly work with your staff on on that as well as any of your

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projects that have direct relationship. I can give another example. The city of

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Naples had a project at Lowdermilk Park that they were going to use one funding

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source for and we chatted with them and said this may be a more appropriate use for

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tourist development and were able to get them through that process. Used tourist

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development taxes for that project. So this is really a collaborative effort between

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the staffs of the cities and the county to evaluate these projects and try you get them

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into the right lane for funding. And the Thank you very much. my follow-up

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question is Marco Island used to have 2 representatives on the tdc board. Right now.

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We're down to or Chair Darren Service on it. Did a second. Let me from at all merry. It

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is PC that side of it. Yes, because the market resident. Okay. Okay. Because that's

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something that's very important that Marco Island representation. Thank Thank

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you, sir. the hands commissioner. Look I'm going to volunteer Commissioner

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Locastro to come to one of your future city council meetings with our staff, Chris

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Johnson and go through the statutory requirements. How that money divvied up by

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statute. Where can go what can be used for so on and so forth. Better clarified for

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some of it is as a muse said, can be used for infrastructure project to delineate the kind

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they don't just throw it at you. And so it's a rather involved. It's not that

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complicated. I actually figured it out. But it. May may be recalled. Volunteered

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missed Commissioner Locastro volunteered. We appreciate your volunteer would like to

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see outbreaks within what I wanted address. Champagnes question about, you know, what

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can we do? The best feedback I can give you as couple things have the city manager and the

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county manager work together. The biggest mistake that I've seen and I sat on the TV see

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as a board as a board will take turns on the board so we don't get elected. We take

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turns every every year. So we can we can learn a lot. But the biggest mistake that I see

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is different different groups municipality's and others jumping the gun a little bit

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too quick. We want this amount of money for this one thing. No details, no background, no

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nothing. And so, you know, it really needs to come as a as a package and it has to be well

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thought out. And that's where our county manager can help somebody. And sometimes my

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advice is you're not ready yet to submit. So I'll see a draft of something. I'll be like

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compared to other packages. I've seen. This is one of the thinnest things asking for the

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most money. And, you know, it's not going to come before the board 15 different times.

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So that's where I don't know that I need to come to us. A city council meeting, I will

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tell Chris Johnson sent back there every time I in the direction of somebody is like,

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hey of call their cell phone number right now, he's somebody that could be very

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helpful. our county manager can certainly, you know, the county staff is there to also

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help Miss apologies. we see multiple inputs from across the board. We might have. We

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definitely a lot more visibility into the best strategy submit something and

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what a lot of times when something doesn't have enough meat on the bone that doesn't

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meet with with approval and the details. Were there just the right person related and

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package it or didn't have experience doing it and you're competing with a lot of

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different other entities are all asking for for money. So having something that's really

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complete. Well thought out and maybe has been vetted a bit by the county staff beef before

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it makes its formal, you know, turn would be the best advice I can get. I can always help

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with that. If it's for Marco and I would pull our subject matter, experts on the county

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to make sure that it got every every set of eyeballs on it so that it got strong look. sir.

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I see a commissioner Saunders and then we'll get to commission a great to one more

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go-round for this topic missions on This is request the city Mark will get behind

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this tourist tax side. Ask the board to put this on the agenda on ballot. I guess 6 or

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8 months ago, the figure was going to be a tax that's going to pass. This is one that can

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pass. The message is that it's it's on our tourist. Our citizens benefit from this

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between harassment advertising to more tourist, the Philae restaurants hotels. But I also

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want to point out one thing. I understand that the Marco Island Civic Association is

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opposed to this. I don't know why they would be opposed to it. But that's what I've been

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told. So I would urge city councilor folks in the audience that may be for they

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with civic Association, perhaps they need to be. Brought up to speed as to what

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this tax can do. But Marco Island, generally a large voter turnout. Marco Island.

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expected that November. It's going to be 90% turnout. Everybody gets to vote on

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this. And it would be a shame that Marco Island comes out opposition to this and fails

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just simply because the Civic Association perhaps doesn't have enough information. I can

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think no reason. Kind of thought this through. get somebody come up with a reason

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to vote against it. like to hear I can't think of any reason hope with Civic

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Association Change your position. Well, so it was category one. Thank you.

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couple clarifications. The tdc money goes to Tallahassee someone in Tallahassee. Who

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then decisions that allocation. It's a purely by stature. get it all. Okay.

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Okay. And so to the other point, it would help to enlighten the community as to

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what kind of dollars come back and the application of those proceeds. I'm not entirely

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clear what all qualifies as a potential application for the use proceeds and having that

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menus. So I'll test one just as a concept. We have a very active tourist boardwalk,

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Winterberry boardwalk. We're in the process doing some renovations to they to about

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ballpark 150,000 repairs at this point. Why wouldn't that be a very attractive in

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eligible application? Councilor Greg? That's actually in the works. Casey J

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Tulsa from the Tdc are talking about that. I'll say it looks good, not definite, but that's

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our agenda speak about that. council meeting. I think the answer, the other question,

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TPC tax. Any tax that hits or visitors and comes back to the community clearly has

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attractive profile too. I think one of the challenges that Marco Island been

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wrestling with, which is ask for an increase in the sales tax and that sales tax is

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higher and many counties in Florida is because we do have increasing burdens to service

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that turns community, whether it's law enforcement, infrastructure, cetera. we are

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challenged by increasing need to service a tourist community and little or no offset. And

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so we as a a municipality are looking at how can we try and bring some parity of Thank

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you. Mister Chair was to pick up where Mister McDaniels left it. I would like it would be

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OK to invite. Mister Johnston. Would it be? That what what is the chain of command? Is there

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any way that we can invite him? To explain stuff? Yeah. You all college home. told I

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like that. That's a good. All right. So because we we would let down and staff as well. So

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and especially the statutory explanation o what are the cons we can use for perhaps

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infrastructure. Let's win us that that was spoken about see the 2 managers are already

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writing notes. The second it was I mean before Chris. Pete, one thing that I'm in just a

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and you're so you give example of the winter very boardwalk.

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Just assuming it has has a tourist attraction, us talk about what it To sticks and

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maybe sometimes things are a little But used think, you know, because a lot of times

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when people live in this area, specially marked as example, I think everything is Torres and

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it might mean. really has explaining. That's probably the biggest missing piece that

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ice and packages that come to me as droughts or that get voting on that connection

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isn't made. Jaap well, you know, there's a bunch of things probably missing. then

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sometimes money. So that's where that that connection. for that package bombs. And

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also to sometimes people take leave and make that connection for tourism. It's a stretch.

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It makes that package look very. You give an example of something that definitely

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could be considered. Thank you. Commission council eye for the record. Christopher

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Johnson. I'm the director of corporate financial management services for the county. Can I

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get these slides up by chance? I actually put and looks like you guys have the packet in

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front of you, but I can quickly run through the uses of tdt how perfect that I'm

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just looking at myself. back so let me just get started here. When I can go through

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hears I'll go through the tdt uses by each individual. Penny as as the commissioners and

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the county manager have stated, we currently have 5 pennies that we charge for

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Tdt. We're looking to enact the 6 penny for the high tourism counties in that'll be

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on the November ballot. So all the authorized uses of tourism development, tax writer,

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revenue are outlined in Florida State statute. One 25 Dot 0, 1, 0, 4, And I'll start

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with the first second and the 3rd pennies. So the first second and 3rd pennies all

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have the same uses and they're outlined here on this slide. They can be used for paying

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debt service and operating certain facilities, including convention centers, sports

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stadiums, arenas coliseum's or auditoriums aquarium, aquariums and museums. They

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can promote zoological parks. They can promote and advertise tourism and convention

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bureaus. They can Finance Beach park facilities. They can be used for beach

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maintenance, re nourishment restoration erosion, control and shoreline protection. And

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finally, this is a new use that's been had recently that can be used for public

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facilities or infrastructure. That's pennies one through 3. The $0.04 has a little more

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restricted use. The $0.04 can be used for professional sports facility that operating

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costs of convention center's finance with tourism tax and to promote and advertise

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tourism. The 5th cent can be used for professional sports facility and convention Center

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debt and also to promote and advertise tourism. All right. And this is the penny right

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here. The 6 penny that will be on the ballot for the election up upcoming election in

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November. And the uses of this the same as the first through 3rd Penny. So you have your

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paying debt service and operating certain facilities promoting to was logical parks

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promoting and advertising tourism financing Beach Park facilities, Beach maintenance,

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re nourishment restoration erosion, control and public facilities. This slide just

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shows what you what we had to achieve to qualify for high impact $0.06 TT sales

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exceeding 600 million or 18 per cent of total taxable sales over 200 Million. rtd

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tea sales in the county are currently right around a billion dollars. So we collect

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right around 50 million dollars in in tdt tax. And then this was what has already

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happened here. There was an ordinance approved for the referendum by our board of

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County commissioners. Moving into this is just a brief history of the tdt pennies you

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can see here in August 1992, the county levy, the first and second penny in October of

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1995, we Levy 3rd Penny. And I in July of 2005, the 4th Penny was levied in July of 2017,

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earlier, the referendum in ted - November 2026, is for the 6 penny or the high tourism

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penny. Moving on to the allocations. So the allocation is outlined in our tdt plan.

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This plan was approved by the board updated in 2017 with if the new penny is to be

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approved by the voters. This TT plan would have to be revisited as the commissioners

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were stating earlier. So here's the beach category here. And if you kind of go

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across this, you can see I have I have a column for the first 3%. The 4th penny, the

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5th penny and then the overall allocation. I won't go through these one by one. But if you

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go to the bottom you see 70.9 to 9% of the first 3 pennies or al Qaeda beaches overall.

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42.5, 6% of the total current allocation. The next category is promotion. This category.

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You have 5 pennies involved in this category. There's 2 separate sections here. You

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have destination promotion and admin and then the amateur sports Complex is also under

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the promotion category. And you can see here Penney, one through 3, 13.0, 0, 8, 6%.

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Penny is 100% allocated. And the 5th Penny is currently 100% allocated to the

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promotional category. Our final category is museums. We have county museums at 12

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point 809%, of pennies, one through 3 or 7.6, 8% of the overall. And then on county

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museums, which are grants that go out to our non county partners. So you have they're

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about 3, actually 3.1, 7, 6, s not about. That's pretty exact or one point. 9, 1%, of the

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overall allocation. And this here is the exhibit A from TC ordinance, which shows that

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those allocations I just ran through. Any questions on that. Would you please explain

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that kept the 2 million excess to promotion fund 11 on certainly that. And that's a

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that's a really good question. So when when the board adopted this, this tdc out allocation

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plan for the pennies, they kept them use the county museum contribution at

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2 million dollars. So once we collect the percent that that 12.8 9% of the first 3 pennies

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that. Gets us to 2 million dollars. The rest of the money goes goes up into the

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promotion. Bucket. Instead. Thanks, You're very welcome. I've been asked by some of the

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folks watching 7 hard time hearing. Make sure your Mike's or make sure you second here.

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Don't be afraid to be allowed. Council gray. 16 Million. See a ballpark number that comes

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out of this. If you add the additional penny, okay, what type of growth in tourism to

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try and target with that deployment of capital. I mean, how much more tourism are we

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hoping to bring and how do you try and measure returns on the investment that money? I am

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the money guy I can. I can maybe pull up the marketing person if you'd like to.

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answer that question. Let's get different question. Why since you're the money guy? I

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like we have a couple of parks and Marco Island that could really use some refurbishment

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ball fields, cetera, with one of those ball fields of the medical park work tours, do

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come visit and find a prized destination, be qualified for consideration. it sounds to me

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like that would be under the process of the county manager was describing earlier where

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you have to do a study to determine that it does benefit tourism prior to allocating

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tdt and that would go through our grant process. Sorry, I'm using the wrong button here.

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So essentially there be an application we have to verify eligibility through study and

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then go to the tdt and then finally for BCC approval. But it would you have to do the

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study first to determine that's starting trend track the activity level from the

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tourist community and to those correct resources, correct? Thank you. You're very

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welcome. Surrendering. Actually, not present. Thank you very much for all that.

404
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But it's actually more of a statement going back to the sports complex and such. We

405
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have our nice little bubble here on Marco. I've been to I think now 5 different athletic

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events at people coming from out of Sunday pulls I'm for $1.01, 2 weeks. But even just

407
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with all the kids coming from all around the country, playing lacrosse of soccer,

408
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I've been in numerous things there and I think on the market bubble, we don't

409
00:46:06,230 --> 00:46:13,430
realize the intensity of tourism outside our island. you could have 4,000 families.

410
00:46:14,104 --> 00:46:20,778
They're playing lacrosse from all over the country. And I don't think maybe the folks on

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00:46:20,778 --> 00:46:26,784
Marco recognize the intensity more than just people coming to go to the beach. But the

412
00:46:26,784 --> 00:46:33,390
people coming to get hotel rooms to go to athletic events because you can play lacrosse

413
00:46:33,390 --> 00:46:37,661
in January, February March. That's absolutely lovely. So I I think that's something for

414
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the Marco, to recognize that it's not what the money that's being spent is in per se how

415
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to bring more people, more tourism to Marco. Because of the tourism through count.

416
00:46:49,272 --> 00:46:57,681
Collier County, we can benefit. From that money. If that makes sense to that, I

417
00:46:57,681 --> 00:47:00,751
don't if I could follow-up. I get the privilege of sitting on the tdc, not she said with

418
00:47:00,751 --> 00:47:05,755
many of chairman commissioners excuse me. But I have Naples City Council member coach Bill

419
00:47:05,755 --> 00:47:09,159
Kramer. You guys know Mesa High School would winning state champion coach. I know

420
00:47:09,159 --> 00:47:12,696
him as a man of faith and a man of the children and Naples City Council member, of

421
00:47:12,696 --> 00:47:18,168
course. He talks about the sports complex in great detail as to the benefit brings to

422
00:47:18,168 --> 00:47:22,972
the community to the local kids. The people visiting. It's one of number one, now

423
00:47:22,972 --> 00:47:25,442
sports complex that leave the country. If a member of the stats correctly. This was an

424
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incredible. Example of government. That's you commissioner stepping in and

425
00:47:31,382 --> 00:47:35,786
doing something that the private sector could not have done alone. And it brings

426
00:47:35,786 --> 00:47:39,656
tremendous amount of people, the right type of people, families, people that benefit

427
00:47:39,656 --> 00:47:42,593
the community. So that's a perfect example of life outside of Marco. And I'm glad

428
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you mentioned that. Thank you. Councilor shipping it. Something it. Thank you. You

429
00:47:48,998 --> 00:47:55,672
mentioned that the sum of money can be used for debt repayment. Is that correct?

430
00:47:55,672 --> 00:48:01,770
Corrected debt repayment related to a qualifying item. currently we utilize it for

431
00:48:01,770 --> 00:48:07,951
the debt repayment of the sports complex. Okay. Could it be used for any debt repayment

432
00:48:07,951 --> 00:48:14,624
on Marco I would have to look into that and console question. The attorney the

433
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media to answer is no. Why seems to me that this should be applicable so long as we

434
00:48:21,970 --> 00:48:26,770
can put any business plan justifying why that debt repayment. That's the

435
00:48:26,770 --> 00:48:32,508
requirements of DDT. I would have to look into that. I apologize. I'm not prepared

436
00:48:32,508 --> 00:48:35,979
for that question, but we can get we would appreciate a response to that because we do

437
00:48:35,979 --> 00:48:43,779
have some debt. Some final Commissioners on please. The sports complex. We approve

438
00:48:44,540 --> 00:48:51,610
that back in 2017, there were 2 purposes for this one was to promote tourism. It does that.

439
00:48:51,610 --> 00:48:58,402
You just mentioned that. And of course, is this 6th petty will promote tourism in the

440
00:48:58,402 --> 00:49:01,805
summertime, but an even more important aspect of this really the reason that I

441
00:49:01,805 --> 00:49:07,100
support of this more than the tourism was affected, provides these facilities for our

442
00:49:07,100 --> 00:49:12,148
community. So when we don't have visiting teams from all over the country using those

443
00:49:12,148 --> 00:49:16,163
fields, we have our kids use those fields and we have a desperate need for employer.

444
00:49:16,163 --> 00:49:20,634
Those field. And this is filling that need, especially baseball diamonds in the

445
00:49:20,634 --> 00:49:24,371
summertime. Lot of our diamonds being refurbished in the summertime. So we need

446
00:49:24,371 --> 00:49:32,771
build the 2, 2, 2.1 was for tourism, but also to provide meals for our community. And

447
00:49:32,779 --> 00:49:38,918
then in terms of the amount of tourism, I do believe that number 25% sticks in my head

448
00:49:38,918 --> 00:49:42,789
for some resist to tourist taxes generated on Marco Island. That means it. The

449
00:49:42,789 --> 00:49:48,600
other 75% comes from someplace else. So it's it's it's a big pool. And that may give you

450
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:56,200
some idea the difference. At a closing for community chair. If you have a closing thought.

451
00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:58,138
But for my city council members, I've been talking about tdc initiatives. What

452
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are we going to do? What are we going to ask for? type of skin in the game? And we're

453
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going include for so this would be a great, I think a launching point, Dr. Lucy, so

454
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myself, we can talk about putting on an agenda. Fishel talk about what type items we

455
00:50:12,952 --> 00:50:15,288
think would qualify, how we set it up, set it up for success with our county

456
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commissioners. That's one thought. And the thing I want to just clarify. The tdc now

457
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we take a lot of tourist tax money and we can connected to a lot of things that also

458
00:50:24,698 --> 00:50:30,636
benefit the public. I use the word I think some of does anybody somebody all in it

459
00:50:30,636 --> 00:50:34,441
together. It's a big circle. So there are a lot of things that will benefit the

460
00:50:34,441 --> 00:50:39,178
community. But you cannot forget. One of the jobs of the tdc is to promote tourism.

461
00:50:39,178 --> 00:50:44,184
That's its purpose to bring more tortoise and thriving economy. So that's my fault.

462
00:50:44,184 --> 00:50:48,988
But to close out the county sales tax, here's what I'm hearing would be clear. County

463
00:50:48,988 --> 00:50:54,260
commissioners, appreciate. It's not that you're against the idea. It's has to be a

464
00:50:54,260 --> 00:50:58,865
well backed and supported ideas set up for success. That'll be our job counselors

465
00:50:58,865 --> 00:51:01,601
to convince our community to make sure that we are reaching out to the county

466
00:51:01,601 --> 00:51:06,540
commissioners and 4 in favor of this, asking the conversation to keep moving

467
00:51:06,540 --> 00:51:10,343
forward for a later date when we might when the county commissioners will consider it

468
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Mr. Chaired anything to add before we move on to that. All right. With that Beach

469
00:51:16,149 --> 00:51:23,230
management plan next on the. I just paraphrase this currently 4 major coastal management

470
00:51:23,230 --> 00:51:29,629
projects are underway. Collier Creek dredging permit expires December 20 27 led by Collier

471
00:51:29,629 --> 00:51:33,433
County, U.S. Army Corps dredging Naples to Marco federal navigation channel

472
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planned for the late 2027 Sandrine Embarassment of South Marco Beach led by Collier

473
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County. Number 4, Tiger Tale Lagoon. Sand dollar restoration. We notice and

474
00:51:43,710 --> 00:51:49,382
dollars spent here in Marco planned for late 2027 led by the city. Marco and Hideaway

475
00:51:49,382 --> 00:51:53,854
Beach taxing district. Does anybody want to lead offer any thoughts? Any of this? I'm

476
00:51:53,854 --> 00:51:57,570
assuming our county commissioners are going to. Give us a little bit of

477
00:51:57,570 --> 00:52:01,127
education and that we appreciate that commissioner. Look after him. I would just

478
00:52:01,127 --> 00:52:04,998
offer that to set the table before. We also are jump in with varied comments. We have

479
00:52:04,998 --> 00:52:12,739
attorney Scott here much like Chris and give an overview on these things because some of

480
00:52:12,739 --> 00:52:18,611
these things are are related and some aren't. So I think before we start just jumping

481
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in, it would be very valuable of Trinity can come up and do just like with Kristen and

482
00:52:21,948 --> 00:52:26,860
give a quick overview. Separate room are some facts. my guide discussion a little

483
00:52:26,860 --> 00:52:35,860
bit better. Excellent idea. Thank you, Trinity. Come on up. Better start to claw. At

484
00:52:35,228 --> 00:52:44,828
least it wasn't. Hold on to your That's next. Well, a little inside joke here. I

485
00:52:48,308 --> 00:52:50,310
went the wrong way. How about that? How about your transportation person going

486
00:52:50,310 --> 00:52:52,310
the wrong way?

487
00:53:03,457 --> 00:53:11,857
Thanks to other baby. Are you waiting for slides? Yes. Yeah. I think I'm

488
00:53:19,500 --> 00:53:28,605
on the runway. The people who are running this slide show. Find me. The beach management

489
00:53:36,756 --> 00:53:43,356
plan. For the Trinity Scott and the Transportation Management Services Department

490
00:53:48,834 --> 00:53:53,372
head for Collier County. And obviously I don't know my direction So we don't believe

491
00:53:53,372 --> 00:54:00,460
that. To Looking for that. I'll just real eye opener with the questions the council

492
00:54:00,460 --> 00:54:06,853
asking. Anybody's newer to this commission or counselor public running for office. You

493
00:54:06,853 --> 00:54:11,591
start to realize, but listen to this. How much? You don't know what you don't know and

494
00:54:11,591 --> 00:54:15,595
how no particular elected official could know everything. And it's really

495
00:54:15,595 --> 00:54:21,267
the staff, the management that are behind us that. Run the conversations, help us learn

496
00:54:21,267 --> 00:54:26,539
and understand. Bring us onboard, educate us in the beginning and they were

497
00:54:26,539 --> 00:54:28,607
tremendous and it works. appreciate that. Some shout out to the staff while waiting

498
00:54:28,607 --> 00:54:38,607
for first light show. I'm going to go ahead and start. So I'll just talk a little bit

499
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about the Collier Creek Rehabilitation Project. This is a a dredge to improve the

500
00:54:47,930 --> 00:54:52,365
navigation and extend the time in between the required maintenance stretching we just

501
00:54:52,365 --> 00:54:57,704
received the Army Corps of Engineers. In August of this year and don't let this baby

502
00:54:57,704 --> 00:55:05,111
face fool you. We have been working to get this permit for years. So getting this permit

503
00:55:05,111 --> 00:55:14,386
was quite the feat. And and we anticipate starting that project next year. And it will

504
00:55:14,386 --> 00:55:24,386
be a lengthy one. it will extend over into at 2028 as well. So there you go. So

505
00:55:29,479 --> 00:55:34,750
there you go. This is our first light here and this is funded part partly with the

506
00:55:34,750 --> 00:55:39,288
tourist development tax funds as well as our Florida partnership with our Florida

507
00:55:39,288 --> 00:55:47,880
Department of Environmental Protection. I did not touch anything for the record. So

508
00:55:49,699 --> 00:55:55,699
someone can get back to those slides. Yeah. I up.

509
00:56:10,386 --> 00:56:14,390
Commissioner Helena are obviously on the same page. There you go. Okay. then the

510
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South Marco Beach re nourishment. Am I free to click touch? The clicker,

511
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please. Okay. Set it down. This is the design permitting and construction of the South

512
00:56:30,273 --> 00:56:37,346
Marco Island Beach during nurse and widened the beach for storm protection. We

513
00:56:37,346 --> 00:56:44,200
received our permits march of this year. We anticipate started construction on that

514
00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:50,920
in January. That will go January 2027 through March of 2027. And once again also

515
00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:54,496
funded partly with our tourist development in partnership with the Florida Department of

516
00:56:54,496 --> 00:57:02,296
Environmental Protection Funds. And along with that project, we will also be doing

517
00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:14,400
some FEMA mitigation plantings along the dunes. We just at a long time. At our Naples

518
00:57:14,450 --> 00:57:22,850
Collier County beaches and the northern part of the county. re-establish the dunes and

519
00:57:23,659 --> 00:57:30,399
replanted the for. Better long-term resilience against future storm events. So as

520
00:57:30,399 --> 00:57:37,873
part of the project, we will also be doing that as well. So we we'll start that in March.

521
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And that will finish up in June of 2027. And that is being funded with FEMA funds.

522
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And that concludes the 3 projects that we have. Councilor, please. the talk

523
00:57:53,756 --> 00:58:01,831
into the microphone, you know, we'll get to that you want Commissioner? Look at Police

524
00:58:01,831 --> 00:58:09,104
to Miss Scott said even though some of those projects are are are coming up and in the

525
00:58:09,104 --> 00:58:13,576
future, I'm really proud of the staff and I'm sure the bite mark or as well,

526
00:58:13,576 --> 00:58:18,460
especially people that live in Cape Marco. But after in little tip, sort of at the end

527
00:58:18,460 --> 00:58:22,318
of South Beach was really And a lot of the sand basically was in the lobby of a few of

528
00:58:22,318 --> 00:58:27,723
those condominiums and I mean, I was out there personally with lot of people from

529
00:58:27,723 --> 00:58:35,397
Trinity Staff, Andrew Miller oversees our beach restoration and quite a few others. it's

530
00:58:35,397 --> 00:58:38,267
been a multi-phase project. So that may not have been on the slides. But there's been an

531
00:58:38,267 --> 00:58:44,140
awful lot of sand and support that has come to the market beaches landed by saying

532
00:58:44,140 --> 00:58:48,344
sometimes the misconception on Marco from from people that may agree or disagree or they

533
00:58:48,344 --> 00:58:55,818
have a better idea on how replace and, you know, maybe we're not doing it and way

534
00:58:55,818 --> 00:58:59,422
they think it's smart because sand just washes away. So, you know, maybe ship at sea walls.

535
00:58:59,422 --> 00:59:03,920
I've heard, you know, all of Tiger tell should be surrounded by rocks. So

536
00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:09,980
doesn't have to be addressed every year. But as I sort of often say, turtles have a hard

537
00:59:09,980 --> 00:59:12,634
time climbing the rock. So, you know, we don't just do this in a vacuum. We work with

538
00:59:12,634 --> 00:59:17,707
a lot of different organizations. But the main takeaway is when there's folks

539
00:59:17,707 --> 00:59:21,977
that see that we do beat restoration on Marco, which is a very susceptible. Obviously,

540
00:59:21,977 --> 00:59:24,980
it's different. All beaches are are quite a bit different. This one takes takes a major

541
00:59:24,980 --> 00:59:30,853
hit and storms and folks say, oh, my God, they were just out there, you know, 6 months ago

542
00:59:30,853 --> 00:59:34,924
or year ago, and there they are, again having to replace all the say on the reality is

543
00:59:34,924 --> 00:59:38,260
that across the Jolley Bridge and went to any of the other beaches where we're doing that

544
00:59:38,260 --> 00:59:43,332
12 months out of the Iran, every beach. I mean, no you know, gets truck load of sand

545
00:59:43,332 --> 00:59:48,470
and then it sustained for 10 years. So, you know, turn. And he has a really big team

546
00:59:48,470 --> 00:59:52,541
that's out there. 24 7 commissioner halls got a lot of beach area in his district

547
00:59:52,541 --> 00:59:58,280
and make a mistake. They're they're getting, you know, plenty of support. even when

548
00:59:58,280 --> 01:00:02,840
we don't have a hurricane, even if it's just a king tide and a little bit of wind,

549
01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:08,157
we're out there. So beat restoration is a regular thing that is regularly budgeted.

550
01:00:08,157 --> 01:00:11,893
It's not, you know, one time thing. And if it doesn't last for a year, none of them last

551
01:00:11,893 --> 01:00:15,230
for a year, especially if we have these big major storms. But there's an awful lot that

552
01:00:15,230 --> 01:00:22,304
goes on on the other side of the Jolley Bridge. That is very similar to Marco.

553
01:00:22,304 --> 01:00:25,775
sometimes that gets forgotten, you know, as well that these restoration is part of our

554
01:00:25,775 --> 01:00:29,912
regular maintenance of keeping all beaches. We have a little bit of an extra challenge here

555
01:00:29,912 --> 01:00:34,250
on Marco, depending on how a storm answer, how tides flow. And, you know, we have some

556
01:00:34,250 --> 01:00:39,188
areas that maybe don't have as much protection from wind and hurricanes and whatnot. So it

557
01:00:39,188 --> 01:00:45,600
might be a little little bit more robust restorations here, but make no restoration teams

558
01:00:45,600 --> 01:00:49,732
are every single beach all throughout the year. Absolutely. We do. Annual

559
01:00:49,732 --> 01:00:54,469
surveys all of our Collier County beaches and pre storm event. A lot of folks don't

560
01:00:54,469 --> 01:01:00,275
know this, but we go out and we actually tried to get a survey pre storm of that event

561
01:01:00,275 --> 01:01:07,483
and post storm. So we know how much Sam weight loss pre and post. So we can get on it and

562
01:01:07,483 --> 01:01:13,220
and try to get grant dollars back to our area. We like other people's pm. If I you

563
01:01:13,220 --> 01:01:22,622
want to end or did it cash cover your? I looking to Commissioner Locastro says he

564
01:01:22,831 --> 01:01:29,171
Representative 0, 1, of my personal concern is that Tiger Tail Florida, move it over

565
01:01:29,171 --> 01:01:37,256
closely. One of my concerns is and I think many of our residents concern is when are

566
01:01:37,256 --> 01:01:45,656
we going to have our Tiger tale parking restored? that reaches of Collier County.

567
01:01:45,865 --> 01:01:51,336
There's full parking lot that's been open. men open, you know, from sunup to

568
01:01:51,336 --> 01:01:55,240
sundown a time. So I don't know what your question are we talking about when it's going

569
01:01:55,240 --> 01:01:58,277
to be the best interest or and that's not the most of any good so. So a clarification is

570
01:01:58,277 --> 01:02:05,170
not the parking lot. You love There it So you got here, the purse, the parking lot. What

571
01:02:05,170 --> 01:02:08,621
improvements are planned for the parking not and because the parking lots and in great

572
01:02:08,621 --> 01:02:13,250
shape if you think it is under there, something that we're missing, let us know. As for

573
01:02:13,250 --> 01:02:18,230
the bathrooms and I can ask James Cameron stepped forward from our parks and rec as we

574
01:02:18,230 --> 01:02:21,366
just talked about this give the short answer. But, you know, you might want to I want

575
01:02:21,366 --> 01:02:25,370
to miss any any details or Jamie French might want chime in here from growth

576
01:02:25,370 --> 01:02:30,442
management, the main restrooms and I put this and every newsletter as clear as I can,

577
01:02:30,442 --> 01:02:35,781
the main restrooms by the snack bar took a major head to end and even previous storms

578
01:02:35,781 --> 01:02:41,520
and not just the restrooms. But what makes restrooms were car left stations. So when you

579
01:02:41,520 --> 01:02:46,258
flush the toilet, it actually goes somewhere and much like stoplights on a street. It's

580
01:02:46,258 --> 01:02:49,928
not the bar in the light that cost money. It's all the computers that are underneath

581
01:02:49,928 --> 01:02:55,801
the ground. That makes a brand new stoplight when it's installed and at an

582
01:02:55,801 --> 01:03:00,406
intersection million, a million multimillion dollar investment. So underground,

583
01:03:00,406 --> 01:03:04,477
older left stations took a big, major hit. But having said that, when I've got a

584
01:03:04,477 --> 01:03:08,130
note saying there's no bathrooms on Tiger tale, what are you gonna restore the

585
01:03:08,130 --> 01:03:12,418
bathrooms several years ago, brand new bathrooms were built at the south end of the

586
01:03:12,418 --> 01:03:18,230
parking lot. So if you have to go to the bathroom, you can do it in an almost a brand new

587
01:03:18,230 --> 01:03:20,292
facility that's out the south that it might take a little bit longer of a walk. And one

588
01:03:20,292 --> 01:03:25,164
of the things I had asked Mister French a while ago and we've done it is put a little

589
01:03:25,164 --> 01:03:30,636
bit better signage to people who only know the bathrooms by the snack bar go. They're

590
01:03:30,636 --> 01:03:35,908
closed. There's no bathrooms. And it's like, you could throw a stone and hit and it's a

591
01:03:35,908 --> 01:03:43,382
multimillion dollar facility that was just handful of years ago because lift stations and

592
01:03:43,382 --> 01:03:45,784
all the things that are required for a brand new bathroom needed to be built.

593
01:03:45,784 --> 01:03:52,858
So that's a pretty big undertaking. Not only that, that we put a VIP trailer,

594
01:03:52,858 --> 01:03:57,196
tiger tale immediately when the bathrooms were destroyed. And of course, you know, we've

595
01:03:57,196 --> 01:04:00,132
had challenges with Even though we clean them 3 times a day. You know, we have some

596
01:04:00,132 --> 01:04:06,205
some folks that maybe take care of them as best as possible. And we've been

597
01:04:06,205 --> 01:04:09,700
trying to counter that know what Mister French, you know, chime in and then you have 3rd

598
01:04:09,700 --> 01:04:16,682
on here that vendor what we have 5 different marine stores that all lost vendors for for

599
01:04:16,682 --> 01:04:22,687
or another Mr. French will have some good news here that first of all, the snack bar,

600
01:04:22,687 --> 01:04:28,160
Tiger tale is a heavy lift for for any vendor. Even though I know that a lot e-mails I get

601
01:04:28,160 --> 01:04:33,632
are people who want go out to Tiger Town. They want the snack bar available. We have

602
01:04:33,632 --> 01:04:37,836
several contractors out there since Tony Smith, who was there for many years and they

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01:04:37,836 --> 01:04:44,420
left in short order because they said I council to chicken sandwiches a week and 3 sodas

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01:04:44,420 --> 01:04:48,113
and make money we have we encourage food trucks to go out there. And this is during

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01:04:48,113 --> 01:04:51,983
season and they state a very short amount of time. What we find is a lot of people come

606
01:04:51,983 --> 01:04:56,588
to Tiger Town. They might want those those food resources, but a lot of Tiger tale

607
01:04:56,588 --> 01:04:59,924
visitors and lined up good know there's a lot of them come south self-contained.

608
01:04:59,924 --> 01:05:02,861
There are more sort of environmentally focused. So they have a cooler. They have

609
01:05:02,861 --> 01:05:08,200
food doesn't mean we're not going get somebody out of the snack bar, but we can't make a

610
01:05:08,200 --> 01:05:14,339
contractor take that contract. And when it's probably not the most lucrative and we've

611
01:05:14,339 --> 01:05:21,547
offered contractors to bundle it into. you take the more lucrative, Marine stores and

612
01:05:21,547 --> 01:05:25,817
other locations that also don't have vendors. So it's not just Tiger tale. You know,

613
01:05:25,817 --> 01:05:28,687
we like to bundle Tiger tail in there, but we've also offered all the snack bar

614
01:05:28,687 --> 01:05:32,230
separately as well, trying to get you know, anybody in there. I want still Mr.

615
01:05:32,230 --> 01:05:41,230
Francis Thunder, but we think finally have somebody may be interested in Tiger tale as

616
01:05:41,466 --> 01:05:46,605
well maybe even all of the snack bars. And then he can tell you the timelines of

617
01:05:46,605 --> 01:05:50,809
those. But, you know, we have put a lot of a lot of effort into Tiger tell. I know that

618
01:05:50,809 --> 01:05:54,113
some citizens maybe don't think so. But if you walk around a little bit there, you

619
01:05:54,113 --> 01:05:59,485
know, you'll see that millions of dollars have been invested and not. Park takes a big hit

620
01:05:59,485 --> 01:06:04,256
when their storms and also too, you know, we can we can spend money on everything, but

621
01:06:04,256 --> 01:06:08,260
we can spend, you know, on anything. But we can't spend money on everything. And so

622
01:06:08,260 --> 01:06:13,231
the estimate, I think for the tiger tale snack bar restroom. If we wanted to bring that one

623
01:06:13,231 --> 01:06:16,935
up, correct me. If I'm wrong, you're talking about 5 to 7 million dollars. And so when

624
01:06:16,935 --> 01:06:22,141
we have other priorities are a lot higher. Doesn't mean we're ignoring that bathroom. But

625
01:06:22,141 --> 01:06:26,912
when bathrooms already exist on Tiger tale, it is an especially in the offseason.

626
01:06:26,912 --> 01:06:34,860
One of the more visited locations, spending 5 or 7 million dollars as a top

627
01:06:34,860 --> 01:06:40,759
priority to restore another bathroom. Entire you know, oftentimes isn't on our top 2

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01:06:40,759 --> 01:06:45,163
list. But, you know, Mister French's here prepared to fill in the Thank you,

629
01:06:45,163 --> 01:06:49,635
commissioner. Good afternoon. My name is Jamie The department head for Growth

630
01:06:49,635 --> 01:06:53,238
Management community Development. Thank you for having me. Appreciate being

631
01:06:53,238 --> 01:07:03,150
back and seeing all your smiling faces so I wish I could give you better but I do

632
01:07:03,150 --> 01:07:05,984
serve. Carter County's the chief resiliency officer and the and the floodplain

633
01:07:05,984 --> 01:07:11,489
administrator for Carter County. This bathroom sustained more damage beyond

634
01:07:11,489 --> 01:07:17,262
the 50% rule which is set forth under 49 5, 5, through the Florida statute which

635
01:07:17,262 --> 01:07:24,202
adopts the community rating system right from federal code. So it's beyond 50%

636
01:07:24,202 --> 01:07:30,909
damaged as a result of the storm. So therefore, it must meet the new requirements of

637
01:07:30,909 --> 01:07:35,848
the Florida building code, which includes elevation. We're going to have to look at

638
01:07:35,848 --> 01:07:39,184
ADA, accessibility to include either a chair left like we like you would see in our

639
01:07:39,184 --> 01:07:46,769
community center attacks and us or perhaps even a ramp. And those ramps typically run one

640
01:07:46,769 --> 01:07:50,272
to 12 rise overrun so that it accumulates a great deal of space in order to meet those

641
01:07:50,272 --> 01:07:56,178
ADA requirements. If the opinion of probable cost, we have not received an official

642
01:07:56,178 --> 01:08:01,282
opinion of probable cost, but likely that will be north of that number. Commissioner

643
01:08:01,282 --> 01:08:07,560
Locastro was speaking of probably to the upward some of somewhere around 12 million,

644
01:08:07,560 --> 01:08:12,127
the 15 million dollars to restore that facility. So we are currently using a

645
01:08:12,127 --> 01:08:18,533
third-party vendor to provide that service. And that is very costly to the county. It's

646
01:08:18,533 --> 01:08:23,339
it's an budget operating clearly that we've had to absorb on top of which is

647
01:08:23,339 --> 01:08:27,376
within a coastal environment. So it's exposed to salt element as well as an awful

648
01:08:27,376 --> 01:08:32,481
lot of sand that people like to use are that they that they bring in off their feet? I

649
01:08:32,481 --> 01:08:38,520
would tell you that that part generate last year we we saw almost approximately $370,000

650
01:08:38,520 --> 01:08:44,590
in parking fees. So we are tracking the parking and if you've noticed, we got rid of

651
01:08:44,590 --> 01:08:49,297
that. The payment portals, the payment stalls and we went to the QR code and it has made

652
01:08:49,297 --> 01:08:53,835
that much more convenient. And then those parks such as in Tiger Tale, where we struggle

653
01:08:53,835 --> 01:08:57,506
with cell phone service, we've asked actually looked at working with the cell phone

654
01:08:57,506 --> 01:09:02,711
providers as well as putting repeaters and ourself so that we can ensure adequate

655
01:09:02,711 --> 01:09:07,716
tracking of the parking as well as collection of payment. Now Beach Park in, of course,

656
01:09:07,716 --> 01:09:09,651
if you have a beach parking pass and a resident Carter County to include city of

657
01:09:09,651 --> 01:09:13,856
Naples City of Marco, that's free parking. And so we know a lot of families enjoy it. I

658
01:09:13,856 --> 01:09:19,828
just happened to be on the site, probably about 10 days ago. So I do get out about

659
01:09:19,828 --> 01:09:24,660
parks has been under my purview for just about 2 years now. So hopefully you're

660
01:09:24,660 --> 01:09:28,270
seeing a great deal of difference in the cleansing. This the customer service and

661
01:09:28,270 --> 01:09:33,608
the just the appreciation we have enjoying and also protecting this amenity along

662
01:09:33,608 --> 01:09:39,280
with Mrna and our parks director. But ma'am, that that is that's going to be a costly

663
01:09:39,280 --> 01:09:44,953
effort and which case we can look at how we work with Mister Johnson to see what

664
01:09:44,953 --> 01:09:51,694
type of FEMA funds may be available. But the good news is is that we are in final

665
01:09:51,694 --> 01:09:54,897
negotiations with a current vendor that's providing services to the state of

666
01:09:54,897 --> 01:09:58,834
Florida. That should be coming up coming to the board of county commissioners for

667
01:09:58,834 --> 01:10:04,672
consideration for the concession. Stand to reopen right now. We've got about a

668
01:10:04,672 --> 01:10:11,279
$728,000 project tied up between the lift station and the I'm sorry, the concession

669
01:10:11,279 --> 01:10:16,250
area to clean it up. Playgrounds are still in really good shape. And the

670
01:10:16,250 --> 01:10:22,591
boardwalks are are fantastic as well. So we are out there as Commissioner Locastro said

671
01:10:22,591 --> 01:10:27,462
those bathrooms get cleaned 3 times usually per day and we ought meant on top of our

672
01:10:27,462 --> 01:10:32,567
contract because contractor is out there 3 times a week. We have staff there that actually

673
01:10:32,567 --> 01:10:37,873
goes through there. Looks at your South Beach as well as your caxambas community center

674
01:10:37,873 --> 01:10:43,645
bathrooms and we make sure those are open. Thank you, Thank you. The council's

675
01:10:43,645 --> 01:10:49,617
commissioners, any please? Well, Mister, Fresh Eyes to see you again. So my question

676
01:10:49,617 --> 01:10:56,224
is about vendor at Keck samples. Can you update us have I wish I could. We are.

677
01:10:56,224 --> 01:11:00,995
And what the what Safir first it was the cone of silence and final negotiation. I would

678
01:11:00,995 --> 01:11:08,336
tell us that this I learned this working a little bit the it field. This is not a a

679
01:11:08,336 --> 01:11:11,973
child and a dog type of a business where somebody just thought of a great idea. This

680
01:11:11,973 --> 01:11:14,809
is a legitimate b***** that's currently providing services to to the state parks of the

681
01:11:14,809 --> 01:11:20,480
state of Florida. Well, we certainly look forward to getting that funding back very

682
01:11:20,480 --> 01:11:28,589
to our residents, supportive of that. As the way. Thank you. Speaking of Qasem us

683
01:11:28,589 --> 01:11:35,130
while we're waiting for negotiation finish up. There's a group of gentlemen on the

684
01:11:35,130 --> 01:11:38,600
island that would love to volunteer to get that thing open before she can somebody

685
01:11:38,600 --> 01:11:45,207
could entertain. We believe will be open before But if not, I would tell you is that

686
01:11:45,207 --> 01:11:48,276
if you work directly there with my office for Mister Han, make sure I give you my card.

687
01:11:48,276 --> 01:11:56,952
will be happy to help Thank you. I see no other hands or comments on adjusted down to

688
01:11:56,952 --> 01:12:00,756
the bottom of one's important Marco additionally, other big Marco pass recently

689
01:12:00,756 --> 01:12:06,610
experienced showing. And this sustaining the relocation of the channel markers to ensure

690
01:12:06,610 --> 01:12:10,766
safe navigation. The city proposes that monitoring and managing of the Big Marco pass

691
01:12:10,766 --> 01:12:14,269
being corporate into the Collier County Project List. This is something that's

692
01:12:14,269 --> 01:12:18,840
important for us. it's a little controversial amongst the community. When we start

693
01:12:18,840 --> 01:12:23,612
talking about cruise ships and why we want to do this. This is safety. This is a time

694
01:12:23,612 --> 01:12:26,140
markers buoys and this is making this is pretty routine with all of Collier County

695
01:12:26,140 --> 01:12:32,654
that this work is done, maybe for the commissioners for the staff. there be any push back

696
01:12:32,654 --> 01:12:41,654
a hesitation to incorporating this into the project list or any votes? Yes, we can.

697
01:12:43,398 --> 01:12:46,735
Currently this area doesn't fall within the county's jurisdiction for inlet

698
01:12:46,735 --> 01:12:49,710
management. It falls under the Army Corps of Engineers in the U.S. Coast Guard for the

699
01:12:49,710 --> 01:12:54,342
channel markers. We wouldn't recommend volunteering to take the initiative initiative on

700
01:12:54,342 --> 01:12:59,347
utilizing local funds, however, working together with our legislative delegations

701
01:12:59,347 --> 01:13:03,518
and lobbyists to ensure that the needs the importance of this channel are conveyed to

702
01:13:03,518 --> 01:13:10,459
them and make for them to be able to make it a top priority is prudent. Where our teams,

703
01:13:10,459 --> 01:13:17,298
both the city. And the county, I believe, are planning on meeting with the FDP in

704
01:13:17,298 --> 01:13:21,736
September to see if they're able to assist us. So we're trying to bring the state in

705
01:13:21,736 --> 01:13:26,740
knowing that the feds are sometimes, you know, it's harder to get higher on their

706
01:13:26,740 --> 01:13:30,945
priority list. So we're we're trying to bring the state into. Maybe we can get them

707
01:13:30,945 --> 01:13:36,818
in, get higher up on their party lists in an effort to be able to manage the sand

708
01:13:36,818 --> 01:13:41,856
throughout. Not the big Marco pass, but also the Collier Creek and the Capri areas. So

709
01:13:41,856 --> 01:13:46,461
that is kind of how we're we're trying to tackle that from a staff perspective. But

710
01:13:46,461 --> 01:13:51,466
certainly I think keeping that on our our priority list and maybe having those a

711
01:13:51,466 --> 01:13:57,846
legislative priority allows us to. Have you all take those and initiatives back to our

712
01:13:57,846 --> 01:14:02,550
legislative delegation and try to to push those further. Appreciate the clarification

713
01:14:02,550 --> 01:14:07,521
will go to help in any way that we can, Stephanie. But anything to add to this.

714
01:14:07,521 --> 01:14:13,161
council great, please. You mentioned the Army Corps of Engineers, Coast Guard, the

715
01:14:13,161 --> 01:14:21,561
county. Is the Army Corps of Engineers done a complete assessment Collier County from

716
01:14:22,269 --> 01:14:27,842
a vulnerability standpoint. What is viable to protective work isn't and changing

717
01:14:27,842 --> 01:14:35,182
environmental. Footprint. Because I love to believe the part of this discussion was

718
01:14:35,182 --> 01:14:41,856
routed It really had been clearly assessed. And then the other related question would

719
01:14:41,856 --> 01:14:47,428
When you look at something like dredging this do we have data that says what the return

720
01:14:47,428 --> 01:14:51,966
on investment or how much the demand is for something like this and how do you rate

721
01:14:51,966 --> 01:14:58,473
allocating money for this for says your other choices? Well, we would not rate anything

722
01:14:58,473 --> 01:15:01,309
towards this because it's currently not our responsibility dredge this in.

723
01:15:01,309 --> 01:15:07,748
And that's my point to that is we this is not currently our responsibility to do that.

724
01:15:07,748 --> 01:15:12,420
This would be the Army Corps of Engineers responsibility to do that. And so my

725
01:15:12,420 --> 01:15:17,191
recommendation is, is that we get this on our legislative priority at this and we pushed

726
01:15:17,191 --> 01:15:23,364
them to bring this up to the top. If this is a priority for us and we get them to utilize

727
01:15:23,364 --> 01:15:27,836
their funding to do so. And we have done this in other areas. And I'm Gordon passes is an

728
01:15:27,836 --> 01:15:31,172
area where we have done this where we've had and commissioner Cole last

729
01:15:31,172 --> 01:15:37,779
district where it is the Army Corps of Engineers responsibility to dredge that

730
01:15:37,779 --> 01:15:43,317
area. And we have put this on our legislative priority list and are Collier County

731
01:15:43,317 --> 01:15:47,821
commissioners as well as our lobbyists have pushed to get that higher up on the Army

732
01:15:47,821 --> 01:15:50,958
Corps of Engineers priority list. And if I'm not mistaken, there, it's getting ready to

733
01:15:50,958 --> 01:15:57,631
up pretty soon. too, to get that stretch. So it's going to go it's not unheard of that.

734
01:15:57,631 --> 01:16:04,372
We've done that in the past. So instead of us putting our very limited, we've had a lot

735
01:16:04,372 --> 01:16:06,874
of discussions about we all have very limited tax dollars. So instead of taking an

736
01:16:06,874 --> 01:16:10,778
additional burden on ourself, let's go back and try to get the news that are responsible

737
01:16:10,778 --> 01:16:18,353
for doing it. Try to get them to allocate those dollars. Or we needed to coax the Army

738
01:16:18,353 --> 01:16:22,556
Corps of Engineers to take a hard look at this. think that that's what we're hearing is

739
01:16:22,556 --> 01:16:31,556
that. like this, for example, we go myself and my 4 colleagues every year make the

740
01:16:32,800 --> 01:16:38,205
trip to Washington we meet all these different entities. You know, we bring these things to

741
01:16:38,205 --> 01:16:41,708
them and say hes a priority for us. It's a priority for the community. It's a

742
01:16:41,708 --> 01:16:44,778
priority. You know, just, you know, our lobbyists and all that work is as far as the

743
01:16:44,778 --> 01:16:50,884
other, you know, 67 counties and the 50 states and you add them all up. The guard are all

744
01:16:50,884 --> 01:16:55,722
for their hand out, trying to get these organizations motivated make them think that

745
01:16:55,722 --> 01:17:03,630
we're the most important project. But the Army Corps historically has hurt us. They

746
01:17:03,630 --> 01:17:05,866
have done things like I said, the project Gordon are going to do that. don't. If you're

747
01:17:05,866 --> 01:17:13,374
good news the other day, but put the sand where we out giving me this and the gun or

748
01:17:13,374 --> 01:17:22,374
very great because I use the same through our benefit the other thing we've had 2

749
01:17:22,850 --> 01:17:28,623
attempts for the court to do resilience study and twice its on budgeted and ran out of

750
01:17:28,623 --> 01:17:33,270
money because Washington, D.C., just whatever reason included moving forward. So,

751
01:17:33,270 --> 01:17:39,367
you know, that's always those stop so I think, case-by-case and we bring these to them.

752
01:17:39,367 --> 01:17:43,804
And when we do our for one permanent, all these layers of process we do with these beach

753
01:17:43,804 --> 01:17:50,677
renourishment projects. We look at it. smaller pieces, but we're still get feedback

754
01:17:50,677 --> 01:17:56,684
on. going right a wrong. And usually they partner up with Stephen, One big umbrella.

755
01:17:56,684 --> 01:18:02,456
Studies say this is what Carter County needs to do. You smell it and still get the

756
01:18:02,456 --> 01:18:07,361
same result by bringing these projects and these ideas to them. You know, piece by

757
01:18:07,361 --> 01:18:11,399
piece, sometimes it's even a better way because they don't feel like they're getting no

758
01:18:11,399 --> 01:18:17,939
help to the fired. Have to say one big report. We actually get result of what we want.

759
01:18:17,939 --> 01:18:24,479
Our beaches are all of that. Our we get a point just done piecemeal. So I think in a way

760
01:18:24,479 --> 01:18:27,681
that's probably a better way to do it. Anyways. commission holds wait patiently

761
01:18:27,681 --> 01:18:34,881
Christmas. Just as an idea. National candidate Casey Askar. This probably looking

762
01:18:37,491 --> 01:18:44,432
forward to favorable outcome in before he gets there, you might want to drop this in his

763
01:18:44,432 --> 01:18:49,703
ear. Get a commitment from him. And then because he looking for support and Markle

764
01:18:49,703 --> 01:18:55,977
as well. He's he can be very instrumental in Wasington, just as Mario Diaz-Balart was

765
01:18:55,977 --> 01:19:03,777
reporting for us. Congressman Donalds. Being very active in our veterans nursing home

766
01:19:05,586 --> 01:19:09,857
situation. So they got some punch up there it wouldn't be a bad idea to establish a

767
01:19:09,857 --> 01:19:15,663
relationship with that. It is here for the election. Commissioner Locastro. I just

768
01:19:15,663 --> 01:19:21,350
wanted to add musket brought up our legislative priorities, commissioner calls and we go

769
01:19:21,350 --> 01:19:24,772
to DC once year. We also go up to Tallahassee. Once you're all 5 of us and that that

770
01:19:24,772 --> 01:19:30,945
that's critically important. One homework assignment here that I can tell would help is

771
01:19:30,945 --> 01:19:39,186
if your legislative priorities matched hours in certain areas, if we say and I don't

772
01:19:39,186 --> 01:19:44,240
jump ahead, but use real world example. Isles of Capri septic to sewer. So we had it as one

773
01:19:44,240 --> 01:19:49,430
of our legislative priority said it was, you know, huge showstopper due to

774
01:19:49,430 --> 01:19:53,434
environmental concerns. And we put all the meat on the bone to make sure we could get

775
01:19:53,434 --> 01:19:59,107
about $200,000 for an initial study before you can start converting from septic to

776
01:19:59,107 --> 01:20:03,100
sewer is a whole bunch of a preliminary steps. So we had have it front and center with

777
01:20:03,100 --> 01:20:08,555
all of the meat and potatoes and then and talked about how this was a joint venture

778
01:20:08,555 --> 01:20:11,725
between us and Mark. And I'm not here throwing stones. We're going to take to to do

779
01:20:11,725 --> 01:20:19,990
things better. If the Marco legislative priority list would have even mentioned it.

780
01:20:19,990 --> 01:20:24,404
And it might've been many may be felt a lot. But I can tell between, you know, case in Amy

781
01:20:24,404 --> 01:20:27,207
working much closer together. I think those things are going to be a thing of the past. We

782
01:20:27,207 --> 01:20:34,180
actually did get the money, I think because we we had it on ours and maybe it didn't. I do

783
01:20:34,180 --> 01:20:38,785
want to say it didn't matter if it was on Marco's, but if we would got the money I might

784
01:20:38,785 --> 01:20:41,421
have been sent here, Marco would put that as one of their top things that would have

785
01:20:41,421 --> 01:20:45,658
been side by side. And when something like a bat better roaches up in Tallahassee and

786
01:20:45,658 --> 01:20:50,764
she's trying to, you know, function on our behalf or whoever the congressional

787
01:20:50,764 --> 01:20:54,567
people are in DC talking in the Army Corps, they they look at those things and there's

788
01:20:54,567 --> 01:21:00,807
got to be center G or it looks like a big disconnect. So we did get lucky. I want to far

789
01:21:00,807 --> 01:21:09,116
had been on. I I was a around. I great when it comes to septic to sewer, we finally

790
01:21:09,116 --> 01:21:14,921
got to step one and we got we got some some money to start. The study. But those

791
01:21:14,921 --> 01:21:17,757
legislative priorities matching in the areas where we've got we've got some

792
01:21:17,757 --> 01:21:25,364
cooperation center G really, really need to to match in a way that gives us the best

793
01:21:25,364 --> 01:21:30,102
chance. And then our elected officials up in Tallahassee and even in Washington, C, D C

794
01:21:30,102 --> 01:21:35,108
copies of our legislative priorities go everywhere. So sometimes we're talking of the

795
01:21:35,108 --> 01:21:39,440
Army Corps in Washington, D.C., and I got a copy right in front of them. And if if

796
01:21:39,440 --> 01:21:43,550
what we are saying doesn't perfectly matched the script, it looks like, you know,

797
01:21:43,550 --> 01:21:47,554
right, left-handed know what they're doing kind of thing. So that's a little piece of

798
01:21:47,554 --> 01:21:52,570
improvement that we're all aware of in here. But just, you know, to go on the record,

799
01:21:52,570 --> 01:21:56,290
we need that. We need to continue to do that as best as possible to you know, take

800
01:21:56,290 --> 01:22:05,290
advantage of of those funds. You know. lastly, I'll just Trinity worked really h*** the

801
01:22:05,380 --> 01:22:14,380
AIDS to navigation help voters across all of our waterways. Lot of them destroyed, damaged

802
01:22:14,247 --> 01:22:17,249
faded that disappeared during storms. People saying affects all those things much like

803
01:22:17,249 --> 01:22:22,888
this pass. Some belong to the Coast Guard. Some belong to us. Some belong to you. Some

804
01:22:22,888 --> 01:22:27,326
belong to the city of Naples and we actually got our act. And I don't know if it was by

805
01:22:27,326 --> 01:22:34,100
mistake or we were just trying to help. But correct me if I'm wrong, I believe we replaced

806
01:22:34,100 --> 01:22:39,772
one that belong to the Coast Guard and it was ours. And we heard from them very quickly

807
01:22:39,772 --> 01:22:43,543
saying, you know, that's that that's ours. That's our responsibility. You can't go

808
01:22:43,543 --> 01:22:49,882
out there and just sort of do do your own thing. So there's definitely a division of

809
01:22:49,882 --> 01:22:54,353
responsibility. So this one is particularly the Coast Guard's. But make no to your

810
01:22:54,353 --> 01:22:59,225
point, we can still squeeze them pretty hard, but and inclusion all say remember

811
01:22:59,225 --> 01:23:04,330
when over the last couple years the Army Corps was here doing an assessment on the

812
01:23:04,330 --> 01:23:08,100
vulnerability of Collier County. I was really outspoken saying when some people were

813
01:23:08,100 --> 01:23:12,138
sent off, they've been working on it for 2 years. You know, I'd and then we saw some of

814
01:23:12,138 --> 01:23:16,742
the cartoon drawings that we know of of the Game of Thrones walls that need to be built

815
01:23:16,742 --> 01:23:21,313
all the way across Collier County. I worked with the Army Corps a lot my time in the

816
01:23:21,313 --> 01:23:25,510
military. They always think out of the box and the report is always super PAC and 80% of

817
01:23:25,510 --> 01:23:29,588
the stuff. And there's just crazy ideas they have, but it. But you know, you've got to

818
01:23:29,588 --> 01:23:33,593
you've got to weed through that and figure out the things they say that a 50 foot wall

819
01:23:33,593 --> 01:23:39,966
to be built on the beaches of Naples to protect every home. The main takeaway is what?

820
01:23:39,966 --> 01:23:43,336
We're not going to do that because it would cost a trillion dollars. But with the

821
01:23:43,336 --> 01:23:48,174
Army Corps telling us is that is a very vulnerable area. So my take-away is those people

822
01:23:48,174 --> 01:23:53,113
need to be evacuated immediately when we almost sent the signal to the Army

823
01:23:53,113 --> 01:23:58,180
Corps saying you're moving to slow, you're not paddling in the right direction, giving us

824
01:23:58,180 --> 01:24:01,287
all these crazy ideas that don't match anything that we want to do. And then we want

825
01:24:01,287 --> 01:24:09,129
them to come back and help us with now something being good team partners with the Army

826
01:24:09,129 --> 01:24:14,500
Corps and we did write that ship and in our trip to DC that was one of the first

827
01:24:14,500 --> 01:24:19,500
places we stop with the Army Corps saying, you know, we appreciate everything you've

828
01:24:19,500 --> 01:24:23,420
done you know where we are. Definitely. We definitely need your services. So, you know,

829
01:24:23,420 --> 01:24:28,247
you know, you know, they're a valuable organization but are stretched beyond unbelievable

830
01:24:28,247 --> 01:24:32,919
means. And so like Commissioner Kohl's. And when everybody's sort of trying to

831
01:24:32,919 --> 01:24:39,459
grab at them for different things and we want to be. The way you get their attention is

832
01:24:39,459 --> 01:24:44,797
our legislative priorities all match. And also we are very appreciative for anything they

833
01:24:44,797 --> 01:24:49,680
can do for us. And that's the way you know, they sort of juggle their priority list and

834
01:24:49,680 --> 01:24:53,672
go, hey, you know, if we go down in Collier County, we can do some good it's our goods

835
01:24:53,672 --> 01:25:01,214
going to go a long way. And so is appreciation for, you know, our expertise. So, you know, I

836
01:25:01,214 --> 01:25:06,886
don't how much you all interface with the Army Corps, but if you get that chance you

837
01:25:06,886 --> 01:25:13,526
know, you want to make some good contacts there. And and partner with them closely. If

838
01:25:13,526 --> 01:25:19,665
there was a short list of coaching tips from the county and how we cordinator play

839
01:25:19,665 --> 01:25:24,437
nice on the playground or help coordinator activities. I believe we would welcome that

840
01:25:24,437 --> 01:25:27,574
member of those. Just so thank you for take that as a homework assignment and get

841
01:25:27,574 --> 01:25:33,746
you some ideas that you know, you guys can put in your hip pocket of things that we're

842
01:25:33,746 --> 01:25:36,282
doing. So we're both doing the same thing and work we're pulling or pushing. That's how

843
01:25:36,282 --> 01:25:42,155
we get what we want. Thank should because before we turn it back over to the council's

844
01:25:42,155 --> 01:25:45,525
the commissioners, just a martyr depended department public works. you want to say

845
01:25:45,525 --> 01:25:49,562
something, doesn't yes, thank you, Mister Chair, just Marcel. Thank All the quirks

846
01:25:49,562 --> 01:25:58,304
director city of Marco Island about a year ago, September of 2025, we did have a virtual

847
01:25:58,304 --> 01:26:02,800
meeting between the city, Collier County, Coastal Management Corps of Engineers.

848
01:26:02,800 --> 01:26:12,800
The Coast Guard and D P and we discussed this issue because the reason that the court

849
01:26:13,786 --> 01:26:17,562
doesn't maintained his pass and by the way, this is the only pass within all of

850
01:26:17,562 --> 01:26:20,431
Collier County that is currently not being maintained. Even caxambas pass

851
01:26:20,431 --> 01:26:27,271
is being maintained. You all know about Wiggins pass. Doctors Pass Corden's Paso

852
01:26:27,271 --> 01:26:33,144
from Gordon's Gordon pass. There's an inner coastal waterway behind Keewatin that

853
01:26:33,144 --> 01:26:42,753
comes all the way down. 2 where it meets up with isles of Capri. That is where the

854
01:26:42,753 --> 01:26:47,991
U.S. Army Corps of engineer federal waterway stops. So this is not in the Corps of

855
01:26:47,991 --> 01:26:54,998
Engineers scope to be to to maintain this past. I welcome need the opportunity of a

856
01:26:54,998 --> 01:26:59,470
joint effort and the city of Marco Island happily participate in that. And what

857
01:26:59,470 --> 01:27:03,874
deep he told us at that meeting a year ago in September is that they will be

858
01:27:03,874 --> 01:27:11,348
happy to. B the in the driver's seat to coordinate this issue. But it needs

859
01:27:11,348 --> 01:27:20,724
buy-in from county. The city somebody to drive this in order to come up with an inlet

860
01:27:20,724 --> 01:27:27,364
management plan for this in that which is sorely needed, as was mentioned earlier here

861
01:27:27,364 --> 01:27:34,838
we we have the city even went to the extent of paying for a survey of the Bath Metric

862
01:27:34,838 --> 01:27:41,112
survey of this into that. Because we know that the conditions change. Everybody

863
01:27:41,112 --> 01:27:47,417
knows that the sands shift in an inlet. And so your deep water changes. And we've had

864
01:27:47,417 --> 01:27:52,323
we had lots of instances of vessels running aground because they were going in in

865
01:27:52,323 --> 01:28:01,132
the waterway. But the sands have shifted. So we paid for it. A a a survey of the inlet

866
01:28:01,132 --> 01:28:06,203
and then we were able to convince the Coast Guard because it is it is the Coast

867
01:28:06,203 --> 01:28:10,541
Guard's jurisdiction for the markers. The ASA navigation and as channel, however, it's

868
01:28:10,541 --> 01:28:16,120
not their jurisdiction to do any dredging. So we're able to convince the Coast Guard and

869
01:28:16,120 --> 01:28:22,953
to move those markers to the deep water at that time. But this has been like neglected

870
01:28:22,953 --> 01:28:31,353
stepchild than it needs to have that stewardship. And the push through these multi

871
01:28:32,196 --> 01:28:36,867
agencies to be able to come up with an inlet management plan and our consultants have

872
01:28:36,867 --> 01:28:42,906
looked at that. The are the ones that coordinated this, this meeting, this joint

873
01:28:42,906 --> 01:28:47,944
meeting with with all parties I mentioned here. But that's what's needed here. And we

874
01:28:47,944 --> 01:28:52,483
can't just sit back and think that the court's going to take care of it because it's not

875
01:28:52,483 --> 01:29:01,483
even in there in their scope of work. Commissioner, look, actually, I mean, maybe up

876
01:29:08,199 --> 01:29:10,667
respectful varying opinions. I want to highlight something you said moving away from this

877
01:29:10,667 --> 01:29:15,500
for one 0nd. The reason we're literally sitting here is because of 2 great managers

878
01:29:15,500 --> 01:29:20,944
that put this together and got us together for these conversations. I don't expect

879
01:29:20,944 --> 01:29:25,883
an answer. I don't think it's proper in this, but this make sense of But it's something

880
01:29:25,883 --> 01:29:28,619
that part of the synergy. Perfect. I just knew they had not. We're good to go. any

881
01:29:28,619 --> 01:29:35,425
other thoughts on this topic. And the city hands ready. All right, Stephanie thing to add.

882
01:29:35,425 --> 01:29:44,401
All right. Thank you. All right. We can move on. Then great conversation. I think we

883
01:29:44,401 --> 01:29:51,575
touched upon a bit of this use of tourist development, tax funds. For the one 25 Dash, 0,

884
01:29:51,575 --> 01:29:56,981
1, 0, 4, coming up in November. 26 the Tdt revenue but everything they want to

885
01:29:56,981 --> 01:29:59,490
answer any other questions. I know we've covered a lot of it, the previous conversation,

886
01:29:59,490 --> 01:30:06,223
but any other thoughts, counselors, commissioners, Steph. All it's like a good

887
01:30:06,223 --> 01:30:09,727
council meeting or a county commissioner meeting. We can move right on. Caxambas Park

888
01:30:09,727 --> 01:30:15,990
in South Beach parking lot operations. This is one that comes up a lot and Morgan

889
01:30:15,990 --> 01:30:18,935
start this off. I talked to Commissioner Locastro let's first elected keeping campaign

890
01:30:18,935 --> 01:30:24,742
promises. Hey, Rick. You want to give us those 2 parks and it was a great conversation of

891
01:30:24,742 --> 01:30:28,278
a maturing. If I could share honestly, you may not fully want them until you know what

892
01:30:28,278 --> 01:30:33,350
you're taking on, what the responsibilities are. And that's how started with. And

893
01:30:33,350 --> 01:30:36,754
we bounce the ideas around a bit over time. You want to start this one at all. As we

894
01:30:36,754 --> 01:30:40,958
turn over? Well, and I and this is one that Mr. French and I met on says I saw it on

895
01:30:40,958 --> 01:30:47,131
topic list. This was another complicated But in some cases not too complicated. And I'll

896
01:30:47,131 --> 01:30:51,936
stand by what I said initially. Be careful what you wish for, because, you know, I

897
01:30:51,936 --> 01:30:55,172
mean, I live on Marco and there's some things that, you know, you've all brought up

898
01:30:55,172 --> 01:31:00,244
that you've got some debt you want, you know, got some ball field. You've got this. You've

899
01:31:00,244 --> 01:31:04,281
got that. If if if we could just hand you the keys, the CAC Sam bus, you know, you may

900
01:31:04,281 --> 01:31:11,550
not want that now. Number one, especially you would have wanted it prior to Hurricane

901
01:31:11,550 --> 01:31:15,492
Ian because if you had the keys, you would have had to do an unbelievable amount of

902
01:31:15,492 --> 01:31:21,332
heavy lifting as the county had to do, not only to get FEMA dollars and whatnot, but

903
01:31:21,332 --> 01:31:26,270
even at some of money in the pot. So I don't know that that would have helped your debt,

904
01:31:26,270 --> 01:31:30,974
the parking and even the marina stories, giant cash cow that's going to feed Marco

905
01:31:30,974 --> 01:31:37,682
Island. All this incredible profit. And you've got a facility like that, that takes

906
01:31:37,682 --> 01:31:41,818
major hits from storms. And even just, you know, regular use citizens expect parking

907
01:31:41,818 --> 01:31:47,524
lots to repaved and all those other things. you know, the dollars and cents. So it's not

908
01:31:47,524 --> 01:31:54,364
any of us at the county holding on to it for nefarious reasons on the flip side and

909
01:31:54,364 --> 01:31:57,702
that's where asked Mister French to come in here. There's some legalities. One

910
01:31:57,702 --> 01:32:01,906
state money is used first for certain things when county tax dollars are used for certain

911
01:32:01,906 --> 01:32:06,644
things, you can't just sort switch the keys afterwards. And so doesn't mean it's

912
01:32:06,644 --> 01:32:11,648
something we couldn't explore. We certainly I certainly look at facts and this is the most

913
01:32:11,648 --> 01:32:16,887
unique park in the county because when you look at all the other parks, we their own

914
01:32:16,887 --> 01:32:21,991
it for somebody else owns that. This one sort of this handshake from 100 years ago

915
01:32:21,991 --> 01:32:26,216
ever sort of decided. And it's definitely not managed in the most efficient way. There's a

916
01:32:26,216 --> 01:32:34,324
little bit of overlap. You guys get complaints at times we get complaints times and it

917
01:32:34,324 --> 01:32:38,895
sort a shared responsibility. Other on the flip side, I would now it's it's probably

918
01:32:38,895 --> 01:32:44,334
is the nicest best newest park because of the work that was done by huge amount of people

919
01:32:44,334 --> 01:32:51,240
to not only fight for FEMA dollars and whatnot, but make sure it was fully funded it

920
01:32:51,240 --> 01:32:56,579
wasn't repaired. It was totally rebuilt. And and we still have a few more things

921
01:32:56,579 --> 01:33:02,118
to do. Jamie, if you can give us a short version, has to the legalities than anything else

922
01:33:02,118 --> 01:33:08,391
you want to touch on. But how it's not as easy as just hey, would you give us the park and

923
01:33:08,391 --> 01:33:10,594
we'll we'll take it from there. There are some long poles in the tent when it

924
01:33:10,594 --> 01:33:14,865
comes to that, even if it was something we thought was a good idea, we may not have the

925
01:33:14,865 --> 01:33:19,870
full authority that just transfer ownership per share ownership in a different way.

926
01:33:19,870 --> 01:33:25,142
But I still think there and also and with that, that there. is some uniqueness of

927
01:33:25,142 --> 01:33:29,879
of what we can continue to explore so that it's more efficient operation out there

928
01:33:29,879 --> 01:33:37,354
and maybe it still remains shared. But in a different way. thank you Virginia. Jamie

929
01:33:37,354 --> 01:33:42,225
French for the record. And I just wanted tell you that we're so excited about Tiger

930
01:33:42,225 --> 01:33:47,430
Tale, but I did get notice that we actually scheduled to go in from the board of County

931
01:33:47,430 --> 01:33:52,902
commissioners, probably the first or second meeting to finalize a contract with a

932
01:33:52,902 --> 01:33:57,307
vendor. So it has been through legal review famous clock scales office. So we just got

933
01:33:57,307 --> 01:34:03,513
that done right now. So the I'm getting. So I'd like to start off with with South

934
01:34:03,513 --> 01:34:11,320
Beach. If that's okay so year, the South Beach parking lot. I believe that's right. On

935
01:34:11,320 --> 01:34:18,662
swallow that hours of operations are from sunrise to sunset. We do maintain parks,

936
01:34:18,662 --> 01:34:26,202
recreation. We do maintain the Boardwalk Beach access and that is open. 24 hours now as

937
01:34:26,202 --> 01:34:32,675
a cab yacht, the hours of operations for any Parker at the determination of your

938
01:34:32,675 --> 01:34:37,747
parks and recreation director, which essentially means your county manager or designee. So

939
01:34:37,747 --> 01:34:42,180
it may be my officer could very well be Miss Patterson's office or of course, the board

940
01:34:42,180 --> 01:34:48,291
of County commissioners. So there are times that we do it just park hours based on

941
01:34:48,291 --> 01:34:56,165
activity, repairs or perhaps if we've with we've seen a high amount of vandalism

942
01:34:56,165 --> 01:35:01,571
unique opportunities to close those during season, the parking can says the 64

943
01:35:01,571 --> 01:35:06,420
parking spaces. This is all heart skate. So it is not your permanent parking Michelle.

944
01:35:06,420 --> 01:35:10,470
The Cesar paved parking lots with for handicap spaces. It does have a single stall

945
01:35:10,470 --> 01:35:18,447
restroom facility for both men and women. It we see north 100,000 visitors to this

946
01:35:19,589 --> 01:35:25,862
location annually for that beach access again, Free Beach parking passes can be utilized

947
01:35:25,862 --> 01:35:33,470
here and then the parking is $10 and that's for the fall Day operating expenses on this

948
01:35:33,470 --> 01:35:40,343
location are just north of $17,000 a year and we do patrol those through our code

949
01:35:40,343 --> 01:35:43,814
enforcement I'm sorry, our park Rangers, which is we we took a consolidated effort in

950
01:35:43,814 --> 01:35:49,820
last 2 years to bring all of our enforcement or code our parking revenues that we see

951
01:35:49,820 --> 01:35:58,820
in Fy 25 are just shy of $360,000 Fy. 26, we were just a little lower. The South

952
01:35:59,496 --> 01:36:03,834
Marco improvements. We are doing a redesign. We're doing some improvements on the front

953
01:36:03,834 --> 01:36:07,837
gates where we were having in the evenings. There are some activities going on on the

954
01:36:07,837 --> 01:36:12,109
beach and we have cameras all over the place. Unfortunately, some folks got some tickets or

955
01:36:12,109 --> 01:36:17,313
maybe even got trespassed and we will enforce that to the to the full extent of the letter

956
01:36:17,313 --> 01:36:22,119
of the law. We want to be able to provide the service. But there are guidelines. We keep

957
01:36:22,119 --> 01:36:26,523
the rails up in. Our board has encouraged us that held us accountable to make sure these

958
01:36:26,523 --> 01:36:31,528
parks are safe and they're operating as a designed to do so. Those Gates will be

959
01:36:31,528 --> 01:36:36,333
redone. They are currently in design. We're working Dan Smith of your group. We work

960
01:36:36,333 --> 01:36:42,606
very well with Dan. And so we'll take that through the permitting process. And that's

961
01:36:42,606 --> 01:36:46,276
about a $31,000 venture. And we're going to upgrade those fences or lease that those

962
01:36:46,276 --> 01:36:51,681
gate entrances and it will be on a timer at to coordinate with those hours. So no one

963
01:36:51,681 --> 01:36:56,486
will get trapped if you're already in there and you're past the closing time, you may

964
01:36:56,486 --> 01:37:01,758
have a park ranger that would come by and just say the parks close time to leave or if the

965
01:37:01,758 --> 01:37:06,162
vehicles kept there overnight, the board has enhanced our parking violations. They

966
01:37:06,162 --> 01:37:14,570
hadn't been visited in nearly 30 years. And so it's a $75 ticket. Now versus $30 it goes

967
01:37:14,570 --> 01:37:18,241
the one 50 on the second violation in the 3rd even escalates more in your vehicle

968
01:37:18,241 --> 01:37:21,978
could be towed and you would have to pay that impound fee as well as the towing costs.

969
01:37:21,978 --> 01:37:28,510
And so we have done that at Both our boat ramps and at our parks. And this isn't about,

970
01:37:28,510 --> 01:37:31,521
quote, it's just simply about maintaining the hours and ensuring that people are

971
01:37:31,521 --> 01:37:39,796
following the rules. So that the park is available to everybody. This is the park

972
01:37:39,796 --> 01:37:45,469
location. As you can see, this is the area that's in the yellow hash. This is what's

973
01:37:45,469 --> 01:37:49,405
maintained by your parks to include if you notice on the sides, garbage facilities. And

974
01:37:49,405 --> 01:37:56,412
we empty those on a daily basis. Parks recreation takes care of that as well. And this

975
01:37:56,412 --> 01:38:03,486
is the way the park looks. And these are recent pictures in the last 2 days. Were jealous

976
01:38:03,486 --> 01:38:11,940
because y'all got rain and we just got it today. Caxambas Park and I can't really speak

977
01:38:11,940 --> 01:38:15,164
on the legalities of not yet worked with Mister Class Kells office. Caxambas Park is a

978
01:38:15,164 --> 01:38:21,504
very unique park. It was part of the Deltona Settlement where the where the land was

979
01:38:21,504 --> 01:38:26,643
given a as a settlement between the state and the Fed to Collier County. But part of

980
01:38:26,643 --> 01:38:34,984
the part of the title work on this is that it's got a river clause that it can only be

981
01:38:34,984 --> 01:38:38,737
used for beach and boat access. It cannot be used for anything else and anything

982
01:38:38,737 --> 01:38:43,800
that you plan to change. You have to take back through the Department of Interior for

983
01:38:43,800 --> 01:38:49,608
those changes. Also, the county participated in 1983. with a $23,000 Grant. The

984
01:38:52,617 --> 01:39:00,359
grant seems small, but the obligation was very large. And so it holds it in perpetuity

985
01:39:00,359 --> 01:39:05,764
that it can only be used for what it's being used for today and ownership of the county.

986
01:39:05,764 --> 01:39:09,968
Now, it's not to say that that ownership may not be able to be transferred, but the county

987
01:39:09,968 --> 01:39:14,839
has worked with both the federal and the state government on this on any

988
01:39:14,839 --> 01:39:18,576
improvements that we've done and it is subject to a 5 year inspection by the Department

989
01:39:18,576 --> 01:39:25,784
of Interior. So we do have a ship store. The ship store is open 7 days a week, 365 days.

990
01:39:25,784 --> 01:39:30,989
A year. We run those hours from 07:00AM until 05:00PM. The marina and boat ramp is

991
01:39:30,989 --> 01:39:38,263
open 7 days a week, 365 same thing. 07:00AM to dusk. There is a gate. There are some

992
01:39:38,263 --> 01:39:43,402
burnout on the site and we do participate with the Florida Fish and Wildlife to make sure

993
01:39:43,402 --> 01:39:49,800
that those areas are marked and protected. The amenities provided are 31 boat trailer

994
01:39:49,800 --> 01:39:56,281
parking spaces, 16 vehicle parking spaces boat ramp. It's a one to 2 launch area. And

995
01:39:56,281 --> 01:40:03,481
then we see north of 25,000 visitors annually, the facilities we have 1098 Square

996
01:40:04,289 --> 01:40:09,628
foot ship store in office for retail sales. There are public restrooms. There is a

997
01:40:09,628 --> 01:40:17,102
community center building as well few offices that we lease out to the Coast Guard

998
01:40:17,102 --> 01:40:22,174
auxiliary. That project was completed in 2022. and it was right around 2 million dollars

999
01:40:22,174 --> 01:40:26,440
for that community center which was paid for by your regional parks, impact fees.

1000
01:40:26,440 --> 01:40:32,384
So that was an expansion that is a community center that is available. And again, I was

1001
01:40:32,384 --> 01:40:37,122
just there. I I had my lunch in my cooler and I ate lunch in the community center and

1002
01:40:37,122 --> 01:40:42,394
we've worked very closely have recently met with the Coast Guard auxiliary the new

1003
01:40:42,394 --> 01:40:44,329
administration that's and their in their wonderful they're great partner and

1004
01:40:44,329 --> 01:40:48,467
where we're looking to actually offer some classes that they're interested in

1005
01:40:48,467 --> 01:40:52,270
expanding, perhaps the sudden on water safety, especially in those open water environments

1006
01:40:52,270 --> 01:40:58,477
are encouraged about that. Parking launch. Revenue was for 25. We saw $52,000 and

1007
01:40:58,477 --> 01:41:05,817
just last year we were just shy of 100,000 at $94,000. Fuel service did reopen part

1008
01:41:05,817 --> 01:41:11,890
of the hurricane in cleanup. We completely replaced all the feeling facilities. We updated

1009
01:41:11,890 --> 01:41:15,293
the site. Everything was permanent. The Marco Island as well as the U.S. Army Corps of

1010
01:41:15,293 --> 01:41:21,567
Engineers and the E P. But we were we were opening your staff, by the way, was great.

1011
01:41:21,567 --> 01:41:26,905
We they worked very close with us. So thank you for that fuel revenue. We're starting to see

1012
01:41:26,905 --> 01:41:32,644
that fuel as well as the pump out services. We're we're north $340,000 a year in fuel

1013
01:41:32,644 --> 01:41:36,648
revenue. And we know that that is a convenience, although you may pass 17 gas stations on

1014
01:41:36,648 --> 01:41:42,521
the way here. If your trailer in a vessel, I know it is a major convenience for your

1015
01:41:42,521 --> 01:41:49,260
residents because often best clients are the ones that have have vessels right behind

1016
01:41:49,260 --> 01:41:53,665
their homes. The improvements included seawall dock repairs, which was 3.2 million dollars

1017
01:41:53,665 --> 01:42:02,665
concession building repairs, new above ground fuel system. As you see there. This is the

1018
01:42:02,674 --> 01:42:07,790
footprint of the park location. The only thing I did not include is that there is a

1019
01:42:07,790 --> 01:42:12,684
nother docking facility that will be that's currently through the permitting

1020
01:42:12,684 --> 01:42:16,955
process. 4 car County Sheriff's Office boat. I know Marco Island is currently has

1021
01:42:16,955 --> 01:42:25,697
a footprint there as well. This is the current facility. I will tell you that I when I

1022
01:42:25,697 --> 01:42:29,234
was down there, I did notice because of the harsh environment, although it's a

1023
01:42:29,234 --> 01:42:34,390
newer building on your community center. Well, we did have some some rust coming up

1024
01:42:34,390 --> 01:42:38,510
to some of the conduit. Believe it or not under the pain. So all of that has been

1025
01:42:38,510 --> 01:42:45,984
pressure washed and repainted. fact, the painting was just finished today. Any questions

1026
01:42:45,984 --> 01:42:54,326
for me? And counsel Henry one could question. And I looked I started to look into it. And I

1027
01:42:54,326 --> 01:42:57,862
I feel to have the answer right today. How much just the Coast Guard auxiliary pay in

1028
01:42:57,862 --> 01:43:07,462
rent? They pay us. I think their overall for a 30 year was about $700. Okay. So they

1029
01:43:09,674 --> 01:43:14,880
acquitted and then what they do and they but they they cost share for the electric and the

1030
01:43:14,880 --> 01:43:20,352
utilities to very small amount. I would tell you that they get more use out of that

1031
01:43:20,352 --> 01:43:24,556
building than anyone are. So I would encourage Marco Island residents. You can schedule

1032
01:43:24,556 --> 01:43:30,629
are any county resident. You can schedule rental of this community center and it's

1033
01:43:30,629 --> 01:43:33,365
fabulously decorated with all sorts of Coast Guard member billion there. It's very nice

1034
01:43:33,365 --> 01:43:40,238
and keep it very clean. We do have an office that's in there for park Rangers. We've also

1035
01:43:40,238 --> 01:43:43,708
extended that to our car County Sheriff's office. If they especially if they needed

1036
01:43:43,708 --> 01:43:49,448
to escape the weather. We do that at Koka Hatchee and we would certainly extend that to

1037
01:43:49,448 --> 01:43:53,117
Marco Island just to get out of the weather just to have a place to plop down with your

1038
01:43:53,117 --> 01:43:58,123
computer so that if you need to run a reporter, if you're helping somebody, we certainly

1039
01:43:58,123 --> 01:44:02,194
want to make facility available to you as well for public safety. We think

1040
01:44:02,194 --> 01:44:07,650
enhances our public safety. We've noticed that attacks and bus. We're having a lot. A lot

1041
01:44:07,650 --> 01:44:11,202
fewer vandalism, aunts and students by having the sheriff's office there. And so

1042
01:44:11,202 --> 01:44:13,872
it it really doesn't. You'll see from time to time, we do have a park ranger that lives

1043
01:44:13,872 --> 01:44:20,611
here on the island that's where he parks his vehicle. So you may notice a park ranger

1044
01:44:20,611 --> 01:44:26,170
vehicle parked there off and it may be his days off or when he's not on shift. So we we.

1045
01:44:26,170 --> 01:44:29,888
We make that available for staff parking as well. And he's not in a boat ramp space,

1046
01:44:29,888 --> 01:44:35,560
a promise will be in a car spaces. And one other question because actually Dr Lucius and

1047
01:44:35,560 --> 01:44:39,697
I have been working on this for a couple of years trying to determine the parking

1048
01:44:39,697 --> 01:44:42,767
numbers which you provided here, which is wonderful. We've been asking for them for

1049
01:44:42,767 --> 01:44:46,582
quite a while. And actually, I spent a lot of time this past weekend reading Collier County

1050
01:44:46,582 --> 01:44:52,387
budgets. Great job, everybody. But going through the line items and it's never broken

1051
01:44:52,387 --> 01:44:58,860
down on any of the Collier County parking lots. What the revenue is how are these

1052
01:44:58,860 --> 01:45:02,597
numbers determined suddenly when we've been trying to get these breakdown for years? So

1053
01:45:02,597 --> 01:45:06,735
part part of the thing when we went to that he too system, it's very transactional and we

1054
01:45:06,735 --> 01:45:11,600
break it down actually by park, if you believe or not. But talk our codes, look very

1055
01:45:11,600 --> 01:45:15,544
similar, but they are different. Some of the indicates where you're parking

1056
01:45:15,544 --> 01:45:20,682
now, it's not to say that somebody to pay for parking it. Tiger Tale couldn't go to

1057
01:45:20,682 --> 01:45:24,753
Kak Sam bus because it's for the full day of any Carter County park. But I would say

1058
01:45:24,753 --> 01:45:29,424
that's a very low margin of error. But we actually track it by facility to include part

1059
01:45:29,424 --> 01:45:35,164
of the aisles. Goodland, Coca Hatchee a case a prior to the QR codes. That's where there

1060
01:45:35,164 --> 01:45:41,236
was a lack of information. There was and also through our Marine management contractor,

1061
01:45:41,236 --> 01:45:48,844
previous one often they would they would be able to receive. The parking fee. And perhaps

1062
01:45:48,844 --> 01:45:53,115
they didn't always give us good day, OK? So there's excellent data from 25 on.

1063
01:45:53,115 --> 01:46:02,115
Yes, ma'am, got yes, ma'am. Thank you. So some of the council right? South parking.

1064
01:46:02,190 --> 01:46:08,664
Why would we raise that to $15 a day from 10 was the last time we change that price? So

1065
01:46:08,664 --> 01:46:17,272
the fee was updated just around 2023 It was $5 and it it was brought. I think and I

1066
01:46:17,272 --> 01:46:20,742
can't speak for the board. Clearly are the manager's office at the time? I

1067
01:46:20,742 --> 01:46:24,345
certainly was. group was not within my purview. We are currently in a fee study with

1068
01:46:24,345 --> 01:46:30,152
ref. Tell us to look at it. We recognize any of our facilities we we run somewhere

1069
01:46:30,152 --> 01:46:35,958
between a 20 to 30% deficit. And that's just even on a break-even model. And it's one

1070
01:46:35,958 --> 01:46:41,229
of the things that the board of County commissioners has challenged me to go back and

1071
01:46:41,229 --> 01:46:45,634
look, and we work with a company called Resource Acts and we look at beyond the

1072
01:46:45,634 --> 01:46:51,573
efficiencies on what does it take? And we actually look at also what are other

1073
01:46:51,573 --> 01:46:57,245
communities pain. And we also take into consideration everything from am I Acosta

1074
01:46:57,245 --> 01:47:01,583
live everything like to include cost the house to see what that impact would be.

1075
01:47:01,583 --> 01:47:08,791
Thank Do you have a breakdown of the visitors? Is cats and park? Is it mostly residents?

1076
01:47:08,791 --> 01:47:12,728
And there are any private vendors permitted to operate out of there with are the

1077
01:47:12,728 --> 01:47:19,000
rules of who can get access to that utilize hurt. So one of the things because I work in

1078
01:47:19,000 --> 01:47:24,272
the regulatory environment for the last 20 Joe. And and so I would tell you is that the

1079
01:47:24,272 --> 01:47:27,542
first thing that I did is I looked at are submerged land leases with the state of

1080
01:47:27,542 --> 01:47:33,282
Florida. The submerged land lease is actually tiger use be on zoning. That is a

1081
01:47:33,282 --> 01:47:37,353
recreational facility. And it is something that I actually spoke with Mr. Smith, about

1082
01:47:37,353 --> 01:47:42,900
with your previous city manager many years ago. As far as we may have a potential

1083
01:47:42,900 --> 01:47:46,961
violation. And we're also revisited ours. Now it's not to say you couldn't go to the

1084
01:47:46,961 --> 01:47:50,899
state of Florida and expand upon that. But when you go to a commercial marina to allow

1085
01:47:50,899 --> 01:47:57,372
for inspected vessels are certain types of activity to go on. There are requirements,

1086
01:47:57,372 --> 01:48:01,977
some of the FWC as well as the DP that those captains and they're very well aware of

1087
01:48:01,977 --> 01:48:04,379
based on their captain's license based on their classification. A captain's

1088
01:48:04,379 --> 01:48:10,853
license on what those in need now, I'm very lucky because I was able to recruit him a

1089
01:48:10,853 --> 01:48:12,888
gentleman by the name of fees in the back of the room, Mister Andy Murray now Mister

1090
01:48:12,888 --> 01:48:16,792
ending Andy Murray now as a retired federal law enforcement officer through

1091
01:48:16,792 --> 01:48:20,729
the Park service. And he actually did this for better than 20 years for Everglades

1092
01:48:20,729 --> 01:48:26,468
National Park and director to get so many of the captains that run in the Tom, they

1093
01:48:26,468 --> 01:48:31,539
probably ran into Tom before in a different and a different aspect. And so Tom has been

1094
01:48:31,539 --> 01:48:35,343
instrumental in helping us. He's got very good contacts with our star state federal

1095
01:48:35,343 --> 01:48:42,840
partners on this. So last question as a rather intimidating statement that

1096
01:48:42,840 --> 01:48:45,687
Marco Island may not want all of this because of future repair risk, environmental

1097
01:48:45,687 --> 01:48:55,687
risk in that cetera. Why would we want to If we're trying to make this decision one way or

1098
01:48:57,298 --> 01:49:03,905
the other, they respect economics. So it is for residents. We've got a pretty

1099
01:49:03,905 --> 01:49:08,776
well. Structures seem to have been cleaned up. Thank you for the work you There. And I'm

1100
01:49:08,776 --> 01:49:12,781
inclined to leave the future liability with you. Why would I want to move that to Marco

1101
01:49:12,781 --> 01:49:22,570
Island? Your idea or not going asking this. So it's really on If I might jump in. This is a

1102
01:49:22,570 --> 01:49:27,662
conversation we started with. We don't know what we don't know. What are the thoughts?

1103
01:49:27,662 --> 01:49:32,267
County commissioners are great stewards of this park by no means we're the local

1104
01:49:32,267 --> 01:49:35,537
Stewart's could be better as a local presence police fire presents right here. We don't

1105
01:49:35,537 --> 01:49:41,543
know the answer. We're only asking for permission to asked if he might make a

1106
01:49:41,543 --> 01:49:46,615
presentation. Ask a few questions at some point, maybe make a formal presentation.

1107
01:49:46,615 --> 01:49:49,150
guess the lesson County commission is if at some point brought up a presentation,

1108
01:49:49,150 --> 01:49:52,887
would you be open to look at it or should be? I do want to move forward staff time.

1109
01:49:52,887 --> 01:49:58,427
managers, if it's just that that issue. But if you say open-minded, we might

1110
01:49:58,427 --> 01:50:02,363
certainly do that. It's going to I took as a homework assignment. The key word on

1111
01:50:02,363 --> 01:50:06,702
here what's the possibility of a potential transfer. Not to do a deeper dive into this.

1112
01:50:06,702 --> 01:50:10,972
But there are some legal issues that even if it was a great cash cow and you say,

1113
01:50:10,972 --> 01:50:15,577
hey, we want to we want it might not be as easy as just giving it is given you. The

1114
01:50:15,577 --> 01:50:20,382
key is based on how much the county has invested in it and where we got the funds from it

1115
01:50:20,382 --> 01:50:25,720
may not be ours to give away. We don't have a for sale sign outside of Caxambas or the

1116
01:50:25,720 --> 01:50:32,327
South Beach parking. It was an idea that all were thrown out. I I got as a homework

1117
01:50:32,327 --> 01:50:35,930
assignment. We could we can definitely provide even before you come up with the idea that

1118
01:50:35,930 --> 01:50:41,870
we wanted her down. I think we should give you sort of, hey, here's the numbers Mr. Frank,

1119
01:50:41,870 --> 01:50:48,543
just one over. But here's some long poles in the tent. And one of the things we talked

1120
01:50:48,543 --> 01:50:52,614
about as it might not even be possible. So rather than have, you know, 10, 3, our meetings

1121
01:50:52,614 --> 01:50:57,629
about it. That's really the first thing. Hey, if if we did want you know, a passive to

1122
01:50:57,629 --> 01:51:02,767
Marco and for whatever reason, could that happen? If it couldn't all the other stuff

1123
01:51:02,767 --> 01:51:05,570
really doesn't matter. And we think there are some things that would would would make

1124
01:51:05,570 --> 01:51:10,308
maybe not possible. But let me take that as a homework assignment. Give you guys more

1125
01:51:10,308 --> 01:51:18,708
details. We got legality of Apple Award winner again. Just the conversation starter right

1126
01:51:19,918 --> 01:51:25,123
counsel shipping question. Thank I think the reason why we're expressing some interest

1127
01:51:25,123 --> 01:51:32,330
is because we are frequently blamed by the community for things that are not being done

1128
01:51:32,330 --> 01:51:40,338
and we have no control over it. What I learned today is Caxambas Park is actually

1129
01:51:40,338 --> 01:51:46,477
designated for. Access to beaches and whatever the other thing was and can't be used

1130
01:51:46,477 --> 01:51:55,286
for any other purpose. One of the most frequent comments is why can't I bring my mechanic?

1131
01:51:55,286 --> 01:52:01,292
The Caxambas park help work on my boat? Well, now we've found out today can't do that.

1132
01:52:01,292 --> 01:52:07,298
That's not what NE to do. Says. I think we need to know more information like that so

1133
01:52:07,298 --> 01:52:13,771
we can publicize it to our community because clearly they think we even though we don't

1134
01:52:13,771 --> 01:52:18,109
own it and run it, they think we have the authority over it, which we do not clearly. So I

1135
01:52:18,109 --> 01:52:25,183
think the better. Source of information we can get the better source of information

1136
01:52:25,183 --> 01:52:31,322
we can provide to the community. And I agree we need to be cautious on what we hope

1137
01:52:31,322 --> 01:52:39,722
for because we have other issues probably bigger than managing caxambas or part. And

1138
01:52:39,930 --> 01:52:47,671
in the immediate short term. But the more information you can provide to us actual

1139
01:52:47,671 --> 01:52:53,878
specifications that dictate what can and can't be done. The better would be for us.

1140
01:52:53,878 --> 01:52:59,683
Yes, I would if I might. I would tell us that future technologies will bring that

1141
01:52:59,683 --> 01:53:06,224
forward. Wewill continue to work with Dr Lucius. We've worked that. Gosh, I've known

1142
01:53:06,224 --> 01:53:11,529
Casey a very long time. So good. I would tell you that we're happy to be able provide

1143
01:53:11,529 --> 01:53:17,335
her your staff with any data that we have as well as tying it back to because we are also

1144
01:53:17,335 --> 01:53:26,244
regulated much like a any other agency to these permits. I would also say with regards

1145
01:53:26,244 --> 01:53:33,118
to the permanent activity. The property is zoned for recreational use. Only much

1146
01:53:33,118 --> 01:53:36,620
like most of our boat ramps and they are not commercial marina. So it does bring into

1147
01:53:36,620 --> 01:53:43,661
question it's a level playing field for a reason. We also have to follow it.

1148
01:53:43,661 --> 01:53:50,000
Commissioner I think part of your question was with the commissioners be interested

1149
01:53:50,000 --> 01:53:54,672
entertaining the thought. Before we get into launching an investigation as to the

1150
01:53:54,672 --> 01:54:00,679
legality of it. Want to be respectful of staff time and what by take to get to that

1151
01:54:00,679 --> 01:54:04,616
point. I will tell just from my perspective, I would have no issue whatsoever voting to

1152
01:54:04,616 --> 01:54:13,291
turn these over to the city. Marco Island. They're on Marco Island there in your city.

1153
01:54:13,291 --> 01:54:18,729
think you We do a great job running but I certainly wouldn't have any problem

1154
01:54:18,729 --> 01:54:25,637
myself entertain that thought. obviously the Devils in the details. So I know you are

1155
01:54:25,637 --> 01:54:29,440
asking that specific questions. I appreciate I appreciate Commissioner It's

1156
01:54:29,440 --> 01:54:32,310
not something you just looking to offload to us are also give us the numbers, the

1157
01:54:32,310 --> 01:54:37,415
background. We all represent the same county counsel. Henry, you head up. I did I

1158
01:54:37,415 --> 01:54:45,815
just it for the legality question. in Apple Park use these phrases. It was

1159
01:54:47,725 --> 01:54:52,525
intergovernmental Asset Transfer Resolution negotiated incrementally between county

1160
01:54:53,640 --> 01:54:57,468
staff and city administration. That was in 1997. And the same thing happened in 1998.

1161
01:54:57,468 --> 01:55:04,208
Between the county the city for our Reckitt center. So they were 2 situations where

1162
01:55:04,208 --> 01:55:10,447
things that were managed by the county we're in turn given to us and that. So just want

1163
01:55:10,447 --> 01:55:17,254
to make a point that we're not recreating the wheel. This has something done before. We have

1164
01:55:17,254 --> 01:55:21,425
to just make it's apples to apples what we're talking specifically about I think all

1165
01:55:21,425 --> 01:55:27,164
of us would entertain the idea. But if we heard initially, it's not possible

1166
01:55:27,164 --> 01:55:30,401
due to league alleys doesn't matter if we would entertain it. So it's likely I would

1167
01:55:30,401 --> 01:55:35,139
just say, let's not put the cart before the horse agree. I got as a homework assignment.

1168
01:55:35,139 --> 01:55:41,879
we all agree exploring the conversation and it ight go further if it looks like there

1169
01:55:41,879 --> 01:55:48,352
was a legal possibility. And if there wasn't, probably would come to a as kind of a

1170
01:55:48,352 --> 01:55:57,352
shorter discussion trade wilt review the record. Senator. Yeah, I know, get So know we

1171
01:55:59,863 --> 01:56:03,534
all go to we are going commission and you had something like we have to see

1172
01:56:03,534 --> 01:56:09,273
the net income and expenses on rec center. Before we start doing tree. I did. And in the

1173
01:56:09,273 --> 01:56:15,446
comment that I have has to do with making brief expansion moment, Commissioner Saunders

1174
01:56:15,446 --> 01:56:22,419
says about devil's in the details. These are county wide facilities available for all

1175
01:56:22,419 --> 01:56:30,227
county residents and sometimes people get possessor E when assets like this are brought

1176
01:56:30,227 --> 01:56:35,399
in by a municipality and then the municipality just thinking is just for them and their

1177
01:56:35,399 --> 01:56:43,607
citizens. And so as we're moving, if in fact this moves forward, just you please

1178
01:56:43,607 --> 01:56:49,646
assure that these these assets can and will be open for the entire residents Collier

1179
01:56:49,646 --> 01:56:53,718
County. You would have some say so that right? Just like a rocket Some conditions on it

1180
01:56:53,718 --> 01:57:02,426
for free play and use that. So certainly all open anybody else on this. All close it out

1181
01:57:02,426 --> 01:57:05,806
with? I think we in the business Commissioners, counselors road conscious of

1182
01:57:05,806 --> 01:57:11,544
staff time, right? What it would take to put something together to have a yes or no.

1183
01:57:11,544 --> 01:57:14,381
So like what you're saying. First little homework. First of conversation opener. Then

1184
01:57:14,381 --> 01:57:18,885
if it gets to the heavy lifting. Well, as on our daughter, we owe the answers

1185
01:57:18,885 --> 01:57:25,759
and the white paper, I guess guys, didn't I see a few people got the better of it.

1186
01:57:25,759 --> 01:57:29,162
The quick four-minute break or anybody need if not just taking yourself, will keep

1187
01:57:29,162 --> 01:57:38,162
fortune All We have a couple additional topics and we got a great time here.

1188
01:57:38,305 --> 01:57:41,441
Commissioners, anything on your list. You want to throw out to counselor slash

1189
01:57:41,441 --> 01:57:43,477
commissioner communication topic of us are before I go into a few ancillary items

1190
01:57:43,477 --> 01:57:52,477
here. All right. Maybe talk a little about the isles of Capri septic to sewer

1191
01:57:53,753 --> 01:57:59,326
conversion. We touched a little bit about it. Commissioner Locastro. This is

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01:57:59,326 --> 01:58:05,665
something you deeply invested in. Can you speak to that in a spot? Yeah, no, I speak it e -

1193
01:58:05,665 --> 01:58:09,680
through it in detail. In just reiterate, we had some great success in of the for the

1194
01:58:09,680 --> 01:58:14,400
first step is isn't taking up the septic tanks. You have to do a study I've said it

1195
01:58:14,400 --> 01:58:18,450
several town hall meetings, especially and I was looking pretty and elsewhere. And even

1196
01:58:18,450 --> 01:58:23,830
some people on Marco Island who had some concerns about it, it's not a matter Marco

1197
01:58:23,830 --> 01:58:29,723
divesting sort of like Caxambas Marco divesting Isles of Capri. You know, I believe

1198
01:58:29,723 --> 01:58:37,230
that it always be some sort of of cooperative effort may be less Marco. More on the

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01:58:37,230 --> 01:58:41,734
county, but to determine that have to do the study and other communities where we have

1200
01:58:41,734 --> 01:58:45,380
converted them from septic to can be a 5 to seven-year plan. So when I have people that

1201
01:58:45,380 --> 01:58:51,311
think it's a a great idea, they want to know why we have an array started working the

1202
01:58:51,311 --> 01:58:55,382
genesis of it of aisles of Capri. And it probably took me 2 or 3 years just to people in

1203
01:58:55,382 --> 01:58:58,518
aisles of free to talk about this because they were fighting it for so long in

1204
01:58:58,518 --> 01:59:02,355
other areas where we've come, that converted septic to sewer. Like I said, took 5 to

1205
01:59:02,355 --> 01:59:07,694
7 years from start to finish. We finally got over the first big hurdle, which was it's

1206
01:59:07,694 --> 01:59:11,998
great to do the study. But does anybody have an extra 250,000 in their pocket to

1207
01:59:11,998 --> 01:59:16,636
fund it before we use county funds to do it. There are several different avenues you

1208
01:59:16,636 --> 01:59:22,743
can go through. Maybe it takes a little longer. But if we can get 250,000 from another

1209
01:59:22,743 --> 01:59:25,144
source rather than come, haven't come out of our budget, we thought it was

1210
01:59:25,144 --> 01:59:28,848
worth pursuing and we have had that success trying go through, you know, maybe the

1211
01:59:28,848 --> 01:59:35,355
short version of the of what what's the next steps? What's the timeline? And most

1212
01:59:35,355 --> 01:59:39,325
importantly separating rumor from fact on on a couple things. So as I was briefing

1213
01:59:39,325 --> 01:59:44,398
yesterday, and I think Lancer lot of questions, thank you. Once again, Trinity Scott

1214
01:59:44,398 --> 01:59:50,503
Transportation Management Services Department. So out of unincorporated area south of

1215
01:59:50,503 --> 01:59:59,479
Naples, but north of Marco Island an area that is a community served by aging

1216
01:59:59,479 --> 02:00:03,783
septic systems. We experience subject failures during rain events that contribute to

1217
02:00:03,783 --> 02:00:10,983
nutrient loading to the adjacent Rookery Bay National Estuary and research reserve.

1218
02:00:11,257 --> 02:00:16,729
The community lies within the city of Marco Island, Sanitary Sewer service area. So it

1219
02:00:16,729 --> 02:00:22,602
requires city County joint Coordination. Collier County provides some water service to

1220
02:00:22,602 --> 02:00:30,376
the area. So this. I I'm working with Matt McLean, who's our public utilities

1221
02:00:30,376 --> 02:00:34,881
department head for Collier County for the the water portion of it. We'll be

1222
02:00:34,881 --> 02:00:42,880
working city of Marco Island for the for the Sanitary sewer portion and then myself for

1223
02:00:42,880 --> 02:00:48,227
the for the stormwater portion in 2025. We had a meeting with the county and the city of

1224
02:00:48,227 --> 02:00:53,666
leadership just kind of discuss the and Commissioner Locastro actually spearhead of

1225
02:00:53,666 --> 02:01:01,708
that to discuss. You know. How we can kind of take that project forward. the county

1226
02:01:01,708 --> 02:01:06,450
requested $250,000 Legislative Appropriation to fund a feasibility study for the

1227
02:01:06,450 --> 02:01:13,245
conversion. And that feasibility study. Develop a phasing schedule for how a

1228
02:01:14,454 --> 02:01:21,528
project can be laid out. It's going to look at, you know, do we need right of way things of

1229
02:01:21,528 --> 02:01:25,931
that nature? It's not going to get into detailed design drawings, but it's going to

1230
02:01:25,931 --> 02:01:30,937
really kind of set the stage for how the project will move forward. What will come out of

1231
02:01:30,937 --> 02:01:37,744
that obviously will be a plan. And this isn't the first time Collier County has done this.

1232
02:01:37,744 --> 02:01:41,681
We've done this with the city of Naples and the West could what? Phase one and phase 2,

1233
02:01:41,681 --> 02:01:45,485
we just finished a very similar study for Golden Gate City septic to sewer

1234
02:01:45,485 --> 02:01:53,426
conversion. That one is probably going to be a a the 20 year conversion or 10 of 10

1235
02:01:53,426 --> 02:01:56,429
plus years at least conversion. And that one this will be a shorter time frame

1236
02:01:56,429 --> 02:02:03,336
because we're dealing with a much smaller area. but the anticipated study duration for

1237
02:02:03,336 --> 02:02:08,641
this is about 2 years and it's going to I'm incorporate public engagement with the

1238
02:02:08,641 --> 02:02:15,448
residents and in the isles of Capri area. And certainly we're going to the folks your

1239
02:02:15,448 --> 02:02:21,530
your staff from Marco Island as well engaged but we will work through this and come up

1240
02:02:21,530 --> 02:02:27,861
ultimately with a plan and then the study. Sets us up for being able to go after future

1241
02:02:27,861 --> 02:02:33,433
grants as well. That is one of the benefits of the study. We have done that without the

1242
02:02:33,433 --> 02:02:40,840
West could We utilize that study them to go after grants, particularly on the sanitary

1243
02:02:40,840 --> 02:02:46,212
sewer side because the conversion from septic to sewer is something that

1244
02:02:46,212 --> 02:02:53,319
typically the legislature does look at favorably. And and we look at that the other benefit

1245
02:02:53,319 --> 02:02:58,224
of being able to do this project together is. One. We're tearing up the

1246
02:02:58,224 --> 02:03:01,427
infrastructure one time to the road gets torn up time. And then we share those costs of

1247
02:03:01,427 --> 02:03:06,332
putting it back together and then also the residents are inconvenienced one time. Thank

1248
02:03:06,332 --> 02:03:12,400
you. Before we open up for questions, Commissioner Locastro sorry. Can you there

1249
02:03:12,400 --> 02:03:16,149
seems to be when I talk to the citizens of isles Capri, there's some will to do this.

1250
02:03:16,149 --> 02:03:20,653
But there's some concern that Marco. Is interacting because we have the rights to plant.

1251
02:03:20,653 --> 02:03:26,859
We didn't make it that way. The Deltona Corporation did. And then they ask questions as

1252
02:03:26,859 --> 02:03:28,928
to welcome the county take care Could you run your own with a cup? Can you speak

1253
02:03:28,928 --> 02:03:32,598
tonight? A little just as a public service announcement about it? number one, the

1254
02:03:32,598 --> 02:03:35,735
study is going to tell us a lot of those questions. I get a lot of questions as well.

1255
02:03:35,735 --> 02:03:39,739
And I was one of repeating the same answer, which is we don't even have a study. So the

1256
02:03:39,739 --> 02:03:43,542
study might say an idea that everybody thinks would be the greatest thing in the history

1257
02:03:43,542 --> 02:03:46,146
of the world. The study is going to say it's not. So that's number one. Number 2, I

1258
02:03:46,146 --> 02:03:52,752
will say that citizens that are concerned this is somehow being force fed by either

1259
02:03:52,752 --> 02:03:58,324
Marco trying to give it up for the county trying to pull it big part of can come in

1260
02:03:58,324 --> 02:04:05,732
diverting any community from septic to sewer community engagement and also will part

1261
02:04:05,732 --> 02:04:08,902
of the reasons why I think this can kick, you know, down the road, maybe it wasn't as

1262
02:04:08,902 --> 02:04:14,107
aggressively discuss what the citizens there was. You know, it was sort of fifty-fifty and

1263
02:04:14,107 --> 02:04:17,243
that it was, you know, it fell off of the list of priorities, you know, so I don't know if

1264
02:04:17,243 --> 02:04:25,643
I'm answering your question perfectly. the timeframe, a lot of it is directed by

1265
02:04:26,386 --> 02:04:33,793
citizen engagement involvement and not just and not at all. The city of Marco and the

1266
02:04:33,793 --> 02:04:37,430
county have been meetings behind closed doors and force-feeding, you know, some

1267
02:04:37,430 --> 02:04:43,636
sort of conversion. But we need to study first, which will tell us a lot. And then

1268
02:04:43,636 --> 02:04:47,600
we move forward, you know, from there. So I don't know. Maybe might not of answer your

1269
02:04:47,600 --> 02:04:53,379
question perfectly of trendy as if the clarity end and if I may in and I'm sure Mr. Martin

1270
02:04:53,379 --> 02:04:59,180
will correct And actually it's not Mister Martin, probably if I'm not mistaken, you already

1271
02:04:59,180 --> 02:05:06,260
provide sanitary sewer service to Hart to at least a portion of the island already. So it

1272
02:05:06,260 --> 02:05:09,829
would make sense. And it's within your service area. And there's so there's

1273
02:05:09,829 --> 02:05:17,629
infrastructure there. So and we don't have sanitary sewer infrastructure in that area.

1274
02:05:18,537 --> 02:05:22,876
So it would make sense that that Marco too. my point, not by any of our design. This was

1275
02:05:22,876 --> 02:05:30,830
famed long before we were sitting at it is in the city's sewer service area. Also go

1276
02:05:30,830 --> 02:05:34,320
and up. Yeah, my question would be for testing and this is also our for a plan,

1277
02:05:34,320 --> 02:05:43,320
correct? It's one of the components within the 4 you plan to develop a septic to

1278
02:05:44,663 --> 02:05:52,463
sewer project out Given the proximity. Of septic trained fields to the waterways.

1279
02:05:54,339 --> 02:05:58,411
Obviously have nutrients going into those train fields which is connected to the ground

1280
02:05:58,411 --> 02:06:03,549
directly connected to the waterway. So, yes, this is a component of that alternate

1281
02:06:03,549 --> 02:06:12,291
water quality plan that the city has with the FDP. Just that the infrastructure that

1282
02:06:12,291 --> 02:06:16,280
you have on Marco that supports isles of Capri. I mean, we'll wait for the

1283
02:06:16,280 --> 02:06:20,900
studies. But some of the questions I feel from citizens are their expectation that

1284
02:06:20,900 --> 02:06:27,400
we're going replicate and build all that infrastructure on the county side and then

1285
02:06:27,400 --> 02:06:31,644
shut the door to Marco and then you will be out of the isles of Capri business. First

1286
02:06:31,644 --> 02:06:33,779
of all, I don't think financially that that's going to be feasible. And I think

1287
02:06:33,779 --> 02:06:39,519
the studies are going to point that out and say they're would maybe maybe need to some

1288
02:06:39,519 --> 02:06:43,923
changes, some that this that or the other, but to basically shut off the valve on Marco

1289
02:06:43,923 --> 02:06:47,660
and we're going to build an entire infrastructure on the other side to support Isaac

1290
02:06:47,660 --> 02:06:54,133
Brady. That's not realistic. I don't think, but we'll let you know what we'll get. We'll get

1291
02:06:54,133 --> 02:06:59,605
those ideas from the analysis on And the cost estimates things like that. parks, we

1292
02:06:59,605 --> 02:07:05,744
have septic systems. What is a lot to talk about? I do actually have one questions.

1293
02:07:05,744 --> 02:07:14,487
Thank Scott. I I I was lucky enough to attend that meeting. that 25 with representatives

1294
02:07:14,487 --> 02:07:18,891
from the Isle of Capri Commissioner Locastro our previous city manager and our

1295
02:07:18,891 --> 02:07:25,765
present city manager just a map. This is what we've got to do. So with that being stated

1296
02:07:25,765 --> 02:07:35,365
with our location and I guess the next question Goodland. Is that even in a conversation?

1297
02:07:36,442 --> 02:07:40,847
Does it and I'm not sure the mapping does that come to Marco? Does that go somewhere

1298
02:07:40,847 --> 02:07:46,252
else? Because as we know, this is E a long process that if a conversation were to be

1299
02:07:46,252 --> 02:07:55,252
started, should start now. So a 10 year plan. No, again, 50 mail, some good by tomorrow.

1300
02:07:56,662 --> 02:07:59,999
I'm just curious B of commissioner. Locastro said it has to be a community will for

1301
02:07:59,999 --> 02:08:05,671
starters or the state has the force on Sunday. That's really the 2 directions. If there's

1302
02:08:05,671 --> 02:08:07,740
no community. Well, I'm not looking to go to somebody else's community and impose my

1303
02:08:07,740 --> 02:08:11,678
will on him if it becomes a necessity through the state due to water quality and

1304
02:08:11,678 --> 02:08:15,948
larger pictures that we all have to sit at the table. But that's my thoughts on the

1305
02:08:15,948 --> 02:08:20,620
unity. Can correct me if I'm wrong, some of the serious issues we're concerned about

1306
02:08:20,620 --> 02:08:24,690
on isles of Capri. Obviously, they're a very environmentally sensitive area because every

1307
02:08:24,690 --> 02:08:28,894
of the waterways around and not that Goodland isn't. But some of the leaching and some

1308
02:08:28,894 --> 02:08:33,320
of the air. It shoes that we haven't house of Capri. Alright and Goodland. I mean,

1309
02:08:33,320 --> 02:08:37,636
and I'm not an engineer. I don't have the study here, the they're not they don't seem to

1310
02:08:37,636 --> 02:08:43,842
be as prevalent on on Goodland. So there again, you know, we can do anything but

1311
02:08:43,842 --> 02:08:46,912
we can't do everything. I was a Capri is really the focus right now. And I think that's

1312
02:08:46,912 --> 02:08:50,450
why we were successful in getting the 250,000 because we were able to spell out with

1313
02:08:50,450 --> 02:08:58,250
photos, picture everything. The serious concerns. And to your point, you know, the

1314
02:08:59,392 --> 02:09:03,195
citizens of Goodland are blowing up. My inbox is saying, you know, to pull out

1315
02:09:03,195 --> 02:09:07,400
our septic tanks, I'm not saying people on isles of Capri are, but even as said,

1316
02:09:07,400 --> 02:09:12,672
we just have like that. Rain storms on isles of Capri. We see some serious septic

1317
02:09:12,672 --> 02:09:18,210
issues, not so much on on Goodland, but you know what will Goodland be enough and

1318
02:09:18,210 --> 02:09:22,414
the and the rotation at some point? a lot of places that are on septic tanks right now

1319
02:09:22,414 --> 02:09:26,155
that are out in the middle of rural areas, where of septic probably going to be there for

1320
02:09:26,155 --> 02:09:30,226
a while. But these communities that they're going to be in the rotation at some point and

1321
02:09:30,226 --> 02:09:34,831
things that we learn on isles of Capri, then will, you know, help us with the unity and not

1322
02:09:34,831 --> 02:09:38,301
that we can't walk and chew gum at the same time and attacked multiple different

1323
02:09:38,301 --> 02:09:41,504
communities. But it is a big, heavy lifting expensive projects. You don't want to

1324
02:09:41,504 --> 02:09:45,842
get out ahead of your headlights and have all the studies done and then just put

1325
02:09:45,842 --> 02:09:50,646
it on the shelf and not do anything because and things obviously changed. So isles

1326
02:09:50,646 --> 02:09:56,786
would say right now and that's - why we're focused on it. like you said, there is a community

1327
02:09:56,786 --> 02:09:59,923
will there and the state may have a say so eventually and septic and coastal areas might

1328
02:09:59,923 --> 02:10:03,993
be a bigger conversation than us. Councilors commissioners. Anything else accounts? A

1329
02:10:03,993 --> 02:10:10,734
great place. Later this conversation. I would you how to begin to assess I woke up

1330
02:10:10,734 --> 02:10:19,734
reason incorporated. Correct? Yes. When and where and why might isle of Capri and or

1331
02:10:21,544 --> 02:10:27,484
Marco Island consider annexing Capri? And would that have any favorable impact on the

1332
02:10:27,484 --> 02:10:36,693
management of are? I'm just trying to look at how you move forward. Credit I say

1333
02:10:36,693 --> 02:10:41,498
everything out loud, which is why I travel under the cover of darkness because I guess

1334
02:10:41,498 --> 02:10:49,898
you're white paper on. That's going to about 600 pages long. please absolutely for all

1335
02:10:52,410 --> 02:10:56,646
please we we couple of years ago approved development on isles of Capri with a

1336
02:10:56,646 --> 02:11:04,530
commitment from the developer to extend bigger lines to his facility and also enhance the

1337
02:11:04,530 --> 02:11:11,253
cold numbers from Santa's for the flush, which huge environmental improvement. And

1338
02:11:11,728 --> 02:11:18,468
so the necessity for the annexation isles of Capri is portion of that to offset

1339
02:11:18,468 --> 02:11:23,806
those expenses. The major expenses running a larger sewer line out there in order

1340
02:11:23,806 --> 02:11:29,278
to facilitate the ultimate hook up 2 of the residents that are there along the way

1341
02:11:29,278 --> 02:11:35,284
for the septic to sewer conversion. Just tell you what I hear, you know, Marco, but

1342
02:11:35,284 --> 02:11:42,558
was it 6 referendum votes to become the city? Didn't happen quickly. Right? Isles of Capri

1343
02:11:42,558 --> 02:11:45,961
of a ton of people that move their from Marco because they like that. It looked like

1344
02:11:45,961 --> 02:11:51,330
Marco, 30, 40 years. like the vibe. Community will would be needed. And don't have any

1345
02:11:51,330 --> 02:11:56,572
idea if this even an inkling the there for that. But that's it's best. I can figure it

1346
02:11:56,572 --> 02:12:05,181
out. You know, I did because like in my district for city of Naples is it. We don't have

1347
02:12:05,181 --> 02:12:10,520
a natural barrier. You water around your island unit separate you from these closed

1348
02:12:10,520 --> 02:12:17,126
jurisdictional parts of the unincorporated Collier County. You don't know where my line

1349
02:12:17,126 --> 02:12:21,630
between the city and district 4 is there's a lot of shared utilities to go cross lines

1350
02:12:21,630 --> 02:12:28,300
back and forth with half your portion of my district. It's on a corporate on city water,

1351
02:12:28,300 --> 02:12:31,207
Maple City, water authority. And then we have once we have shared offer Bayshore and some

1352
02:12:31,207 --> 02:12:35,144
of the communities. Right now we're talking about expansions that we have to share. A lot

1353
02:12:35,144 --> 02:12:39,749
of these 30 talked about the West projects. So there's no like definitively land very

1354
02:12:39,749 --> 02:12:46,222
like you guys have that would you know separate you. So it works is nothing. We're not

1355
02:12:46,222 --> 02:12:52,228
reinventing the wheel here on this project now and do it on a regular basis, especially my

1356
02:12:52,228 --> 02:12:57,300
my district. for clarification, the residents would pay connection fees to

1357
02:12:57,300 --> 02:13:07,300
to offset the cost. You know, for the capacity that they would be utilizing. So I don't

1358
02:13:07,777 --> 02:13:12,581
know if that was the reason that you are asking that question for the annexation

1359
02:13:12,581 --> 02:13:17,530
too. Perhaps offset those costs, but they they would be required to pay a connection

1360
02:13:17,530 --> 02:13:24,326
fee and it's not. Typically a cheap connection fee for which is another thing that we

1361
02:13:24,326 --> 02:13:28,464
actually worked in the West Village project. We worked to get grant funds to be able to

1362
02:13:28,464 --> 02:13:32,334
buy that connection fee down for the residents. We were able to get grant funds to be

1363
02:13:32,334 --> 02:13:39,675
able to buy that down, too. Reduce that cost burden on the residents. So thank you. And

1364
02:13:39,675 --> 02:13:43,746
want to to anybody who's watching where we are aggressively looking to do

1365
02:13:43,746 --> 02:13:47,483
that for hours of Capri. So we're not trying to force feed this if we look like we were,

1366
02:13:47,483 --> 02:13:54,423
we would have success to get the cost. But down for residents. But it might delay

1367
02:13:54,423 --> 02:13:58,270
the project were willing to wait as long as there isn't some sort of major

1368
02:13:58,270 --> 02:14:02,431
environmental type of issue. But this isn't we're making a command decision. Here's your

1369
02:14:02,431 --> 02:14:04,967
bill. And the county hasn't really done that. Anyone. I'm not saying citizens haven't

1370
02:14:04,967 --> 02:14:12,108
incurred cost, but the cost has always been significantly less than what it actually is

1371
02:14:12,108 --> 02:14:14,510
because of the different processes. The county has gone through to get grant some

1372
02:14:14,510 --> 02:14:18,647
things that can move sort of slow. That's why we needed the study probably several years

1373
02:14:18,647 --> 02:14:25,654
ago. So right now we might be in the seeking grant, you know, window to Joe to buy

1374
02:14:25,654 --> 02:14:28,324
down some costs. But, you know, it is what it is, but definitely moving forward more

1375
02:14:28,324 --> 02:14:35,640
aggressively now. So but we know we're not looking to pass the costs of blindly to any

1376
02:14:35,640 --> 02:14:37,733
residents of isles of Capri and they're concerned about that. Even the ones that that

1377
02:14:37,733 --> 02:14:42,271
are in favor of the conversion. big question is how much is this going to cost

1378
02:14:42,271 --> 02:14:47,143
me? And our focus is as little as humanly possible. And that's that's our going

1379
02:14:47,143 --> 02:14:51,480
position. But at some point, you know, those so those septic tanks are going to last

1380
02:14:51,480 --> 02:14:58,287
forever. And just to add that you know, Commissioner Hall as he was on our first meetings,

1381
02:14:58,287 --> 02:15:05,494
we attend 4 years ago. If you guys did it on purpose. we were to one in the morning, I

1382
02:15:05,494 --> 02:15:11,634
believe. And that was part of the deal. developer would have had to put a mainline from end

1383
02:15:11,634 --> 02:15:16,372
of the line and all the way up to where your lift station was and increase the size that to

1384
02:15:16,372 --> 02:15:21,440
handle all the homes as it passed their properties. So that was a cost that they're

1385
02:15:21,440 --> 02:15:24,714
not going to get passed on to this. The residents there because developer has to pay

1386
02:15:24,714 --> 02:15:30,453
that portion of So that a benefit for the community. Maybe if they didn't see it at

1387
02:15:30,453 --> 02:15:35,457
the time, eventually it will be help with the cost. When time comes to do the frontage

1388
02:15:35,457 --> 02:15:41,865
fees for that happen. So. So one of the morning here, call a follow up on something you

1389
02:15:41,865 --> 02:15:48,939
said Commissioner. market was a unique entity. We feel like, we're not, but we definitely

1390
02:15:48,939 --> 02:15:54,945
feel like it. functional a bit like it. We have 2 bridges rate were geographically

1391
02:15:54,945 --> 02:15:58,415
separated from everything else we have in an odd evolution from the developer who

1392
02:15:58,415 --> 02:16:03,554
financial challenges, environmental challenges. So we're certainly a unique

1393
02:16:03,554 --> 02:16:06,956
entity and there's not a lot like us out there. So we don't have the shared systems. Like

1394
02:16:06,956 --> 02:16:11,695
you said, we don't we don't experience it be a little bold and say we're blessed in a lot

1395
02:16:11,695 --> 02:16:18,368
of ways. Police force or citizens hard to get to mark or 2. We also have some

1396
02:16:18,368 --> 02:16:22,372
challenges, not that this workshop hard to bring people to work here, hard to get

1397
02:16:22,372 --> 02:16:24,707
people to be able to live here are working class. So we have a unique set of challenges

1398
02:16:24,707 --> 02:16:33,107
that come with the benefits of our. Well, a little unique homeowners association feeling

1399
02:16:33,850 --> 02:16:37,388
like community, even though we're not. But we certainly we certainly have touch of that

1400
02:16:37,388 --> 02:16:43,793
as anything else on the isles of Capri to septic sewer conversion. Counselors staff.

1401
02:16:43,793 --> 02:16:46,597
Anything. Alright, tremendous. We're moving along with great time. And if we get to this

1402
02:16:46,597 --> 02:16:53,603
one. This is not my favorite, but I foster this one on the list. Commissioner Locastro,

1403
02:16:53,603 --> 02:16:56,720
you know, I've been on it for this one for a while. So just be open-minded. A little

1404
02:16:56,720 --> 02:17:06,720
pitch. My case. Yes. It's called a so we meet up budget. You got that energy I know

1405
02:17:12,756 --> 02:17:18,628
this one's a little bit of a touchy subject. Let me just. Pitch my ideas. I've been at

1406
02:17:18,628 --> 02:17:21,832
this with see will school construction are staging a drop-off and pick-up point

1407
02:17:21,832 --> 02:17:27,237
since about 2005, when I was. First appointed to the market Waterways Association. Back

1408
02:17:27,237 --> 02:17:32,420
then we were using Watts vacant lots where passing ordinances where contract you

1409
02:17:32,420 --> 02:17:40,183
can use a vacant lot to. Poor and stage rules and pick-up and drop-off. We have rules

1410
02:17:40,183 --> 02:17:42,185
and regulations, you can only do it 3 times a year particular while we don't want

1411
02:17:42,185 --> 02:17:48,791
them becoming a business. But we knew were going land scarce, which is a challenge.

1412
02:17:48,791 --> 02:17:52,929
We're still land scarce and we saw some challenges. Others, new technologies is vital. See

1413
02:17:52,929 --> 02:17:54,998
was us things that make it much easier. Poor one on top of the other one. But one want

1414
02:17:54,998 --> 02:18:01,872
us to be ripped out, replaced, which is going to be about. Estimating 70 miles of sea

1415
02:18:01,872 --> 02:18:05,275
wall in Marco Gonna come here to the end of its useful life. So when experience some

1416
02:18:05,275 --> 02:18:11,681
challenges with this, so commissioners, here is my thought. As a conversation

1417
02:18:11,681 --> 02:18:17,554
starter and commissioner, will you actually helped put this in my mind our time on the tdc

1418
02:18:17,554 --> 02:18:22,291
you said think big, bring us some ideas, bring initiatives. So I look at the staging area

1419
02:18:22,291 --> 02:18:29,433
has not as a staging area possible. Maybe just drop off and pick up. or 2 days a week.

1420
02:18:29,433 --> 02:18:34,571
Could we make the gateway to Marco look more beautiful with a permitting fee? Could it be

1421
02:18:34,571 --> 02:18:38,400
screened off? Could you landscape could have a big wall picture of a manatee?

1422
02:18:38,400 --> 02:18:41,711
Could a park be incorporated in that with the fishing pier in conjunction with the tdc? I

1423
02:18:41,711 --> 02:18:49,853
don't know all the answers. I know that we in the city could possibly patrol police do the

1424
02:18:49,853 --> 02:18:53,790
enforcement. We have a lot of options being closer geographically near it. Now,

1425
02:18:53,790 --> 02:18:56,793
one good question. wanted to come on your own side. The bridge. We have a little land

1426
02:18:56,793 --> 02:19:00,597
looks directly at single family houses that's never going to get traction. This is

1427
02:19:00,597 --> 02:19:04,801
a little bit less of a civil that county property. So guess what I'm asking, would anybody

1428
02:19:04,801 --> 02:19:09,720
be opposed if I put? Myself and the counselors, if they want to be involved, public

1429
02:19:09,720 --> 02:19:15,412
meeting, put a plan together with our sea wall contractors and made a simple presentation

1430
02:19:15,412 --> 02:19:17,480
open-minded presentation. It might go nowhere, but I'm willing to do the time energy

1431
02:19:17,480 --> 02:19:23,190
effort. To see if we can better beautify the gateway to Marco, bring some money and

1432
02:19:23,190 --> 02:19:28,558
will doing it may be making a pocket park have a fishing pier. Who knows and make it a

1433
02:19:28,558 --> 02:19:32,762
showpiece that only allows possible drop-off and pick-up. Maybe a couple days week. Just

1434
02:19:32,762 --> 02:19:39,360
my thoughts. commission, a look at you want to start. You have any thoughts on that? I

1435
02:19:39,360 --> 02:19:43,440
mean, and I don't think this is to be a big, long debate. Much like some of the things.

1436
02:19:43,440 --> 02:19:47,977
You know, Commissioner Saunders said, I think we're open anything. You know, my

1437
02:19:47,977 --> 02:19:50,714
initial concern is when I first moved to Marco Island and I wasn't a county

1438
02:19:50,714 --> 02:19:54,517
commissioner. Every time I came home from work from physicians, regional drove

1439
02:19:54,517 --> 02:20:00,190
over the bridge and I saw the big giant pile you know, construction debris that's out

1440
02:20:00,190 --> 02:20:04,795
there for 3 months in an unsafe way. It was and fenced off. It was nothing waiting

1441
02:20:04,795 --> 02:20:07,664
for a barge that never came to take it out to the Gulf to turn into a a fish the into

1442
02:20:07,664 --> 02:20:14,204
into a reef. And I thought, wow, this is the front door to Marco Island. As you said, you

1443
02:20:14,204 --> 02:20:19,609
know, the citizens on the other side of the bridge would never entertain a staging

1444
02:20:19,609 --> 02:20:25,415
area, a guarantee a prominent senator or congressman. Our governor lived on Marco Island

1445
02:20:25,415 --> 02:20:29,152
that they that they would shoot just downright right away. coming back to the

1446
02:20:29,152 --> 02:20:36,359
initial statement, would we entertain it? Sure. Some of my pushback has been when we

1447
02:20:36,359 --> 02:20:40,697
removed all that construction, debris cleaned up that area and allowed the front door of

1448
02:20:40,697 --> 02:20:44,901
Marco Island to look like the way that it should. And then if you drive by there at any

1449
02:20:44,901 --> 02:20:50,907
given time, not now because we letting the city of Naples for one time type thing. And it's

1450
02:20:50,907 --> 02:20:55,912
a it's it's a government has it has public. Value to get the bridge rebuilt. That's a

1451
02:20:55,912 --> 02:21:02,520
little different. Then giving county property away to a private business so they can

1452
02:21:02,520 --> 02:21:07,657
construct cheaper, faster. Better. I mean, was being built all over the island. A

1453
02:21:07,657 --> 02:21:11,610
barge pulls up to my finding to seawall right now in Bucaneer court barge would

1454
02:21:11,610 --> 02:21:16,600
pull up to the back of my can now build the wall port. And so they're there is a way to

1455
02:21:16,600 --> 02:21:22,438
do it. Do we want to give the keys to a private business of county property and every 2 to

1456
02:21:22,438 --> 02:21:31,214
white twice a week. Based on your proposal. Also blame it on, you tell here's the days

1457
02:21:31,214 --> 02:21:36,386
where you wouldn't be able to access this county property because contractor a B or C is

1458
02:21:36,386 --> 02:21:40,990
pouring see, was there to save some money or to, you know, have a more efficient

1459
02:21:40,990 --> 02:21:47,230
construction process. When we talked about it previously, I didn't think that was a great

1460
02:21:47,230 --> 02:21:49,799
idea only because when we cleared out all the construction debris there and

1461
02:21:49,799 --> 02:21:55,972
made it a nice open area. The cheers we heard from citizens so we've got some citizens

1462
02:21:55,972 --> 02:22:00,744
here. If they would like 3 days a week for that era to be rubbed off and then I did get

1463
02:22:00,744 --> 02:22:05,849
some of the proposals from some of the companies, as you would imagine, they've said to

1464
02:22:05,849 --> 02:22:09,619
to sort of sweeten the pot will build a park will put a fishing pier and everything.

1465
02:22:09,619 --> 02:22:15,392
Yes, but then you'll still lockdown. Your business there and have a convenience cost

1466
02:22:15,392 --> 02:22:20,764
savings and all that that I'm not sure they would pass on necessarily to the customer. I

1467
02:22:20,764 --> 02:22:24,801
mean, if you add water access at Mackle Park, would you like to take a big chunk of parking

1468
02:22:24,801 --> 02:22:28,939
and give it away to a private company let them, you know, do whatever they want their 2 or

1469
02:22:28,939 --> 02:22:36,780
3 days a week. So I always saw it as a as a bad idea. You know, we let the Marco Island

1470
02:22:36,780 --> 02:22:41,250
Yacht Club is that area as a staging area? Because if we didn't, then I would. They

1471
02:22:41,250 --> 02:22:45,922
also presented us with a map that would have shown trucks driving all over the island to

1472
02:22:45,922 --> 02:22:49,359
get material so that just made sense. And they also had a very tight timeline of when

1473
02:22:49,359 --> 02:22:54,631
they needed that area right now. And I will tell you, we had a lot of conversations

1474
02:22:54,631 --> 02:22:59,669
with the city of Naples to make sure that if we did allow them to use the base of the

1475
02:22:59,669 --> 02:23:02,171
Jolley Bridge is staging area which they're using now. And it's not the only one. staging

1476
02:23:02,171 --> 02:23:07,577
areas all over the county. So Commissioner Kohl's got a big one and one of his county park

1477
02:23:07,577 --> 02:23:15,418
areas as well. But we wanted to make sure that it was for minimum time. It was kept neat

1478
02:23:15,418 --> 02:23:20,557
and tidy. But the difference their building appear that has community impact. So a

1479
02:23:20,557 --> 02:23:26,496
civilian company being able to use county property to more efficiently, build seawalls.

1480
02:23:26,496 --> 02:23:30,934
It does have county impact the Marcos. It is an impact because it's assisting

1481
02:23:30,934 --> 02:23:36,206
citizens and may be getting there seawall spill. You know, I'll just say rather than sit

1482
02:23:36,206 --> 02:23:43,679
here and custom discuss and debate this one back and forth. I you know. I think we

1483
02:23:43,679 --> 02:23:47,417
would take up a proposal, you know, and if it's there we don't have a for sale sign in

1484
02:23:47,417 --> 02:23:52,188
front of caxambas. But if you think you want us to explore, you hand the keys over to you.

1485
02:23:52,188 --> 02:23:59,129
I don't know that any of buddy at the county has an appetite to 2 or 3 days a week the base

1486
02:23:59,129 --> 02:24:02,832
of the Jolley Bridge be closed to citizens when it's their county property. And quite a

1487
02:24:02,832 --> 02:24:08,237
few people now now utilize it. And I also felt that some of the proposals that I had heard

1488
02:24:08,237 --> 02:24:14,544
from businesses who would benefit from it if we used it it seemed like they sweeten

1489
02:24:14,544 --> 02:24:19,849
the pot by saying, you know, of a bill to $30,000 fishing pier. But return on

1490
02:24:19,849 --> 02:24:24,754
investment. Back to me when you let me leaves that area. You know, let's not get

1491
02:24:24,754 --> 02:24:30,994
suckered by by you know, commercial businesses who respect. greatly. They provide

1492
02:24:30,994 --> 02:24:36,799
a service. But it's it's not like they're not able to build seawalls unless they get this

1493
02:24:36,799 --> 02:24:41,538
footprint. The Naples pier will not be able to be reconstructed unless they get

1494
02:24:41,538 --> 02:24:46,275
half-a-dozen lay down areas across the county. That one's a no-brainer. The Marco Island

1495
02:24:46,275 --> 02:24:51,147
Yacht Club couldn't be upgraded the way it is without getting that lay down area

1496
02:24:51,147 --> 02:24:54,584
because if we would have said no, you would had trucks driving all over our island,

1497
02:24:54,584 --> 02:24:58,922
which made no sense from a safety standpoint. You know, I wear and tear on the roads and

1498
02:24:58,922 --> 02:25:05,562
things like that. This one to me seems like it would be 80% good for the for the for

1499
02:25:05,562 --> 02:25:11,535
civilian, you know, business and 20%. You know, good for us. If something could be

1500
02:25:11,535 --> 02:25:17,407
presented, that was legal. It it was it may that area better for citizens and all of that.

1501
02:25:17,407 --> 02:25:23,780
So I guess that'll be flushed out and maybe the kozel. But I've been really A supporter

1502
02:25:23,780 --> 02:25:30,520
of preserving that area and keeping that front door of Marco Island clean only

1503
02:25:30,520 --> 02:25:33,456
because there are other options when there hasn't been options. Like I said with the

1504
02:25:33,456 --> 02:25:39,863
yacht Club or with the Naples Pier. Okay. I hated it last and then we all did partner.

1505
02:25:39,863 --> 02:25:44,100
The city was very helpful to work with us on making sure that the plan was as tight as

1506
02:25:44,100 --> 02:25:48,538
possible on that the way the city of Naples no longer needed the Jolley Bridge, they

1507
02:25:48,538 --> 02:25:56,450
would restore it even better than what they found it. But making it a permanent. Spot

1508
02:25:56,450 --> 02:26:02,753
and a dual use type of a would be would be open to the proposal. But I know I would

1509
02:26:02,753 --> 02:26:08,191
have issues with continued issues unless sites are read something that was amazing and

1510
02:26:08,191 --> 02:26:11,962
wonderful and, you know, the citizens Margot think it's a great, wonderful idea. But I

1511
02:26:11,962 --> 02:26:14,697
can tell you it wouldn't be something that would coming from the county saying why we

1512
02:26:14,697 --> 02:26:21,872
really want to. Allow businesses to go there. So, you know, this would be

1513
02:26:21,872 --> 02:26:26,209
something Marco would present to And my Commissioner Saunders would say what will

1514
02:26:26,209 --> 02:26:30,447
consider anything. But there are some long close in the tent on that one. And we want

1515
02:26:30,447 --> 02:26:35,919
to make sure, too, that we're not taking away a benefit from citizens to utilize like

1516
02:26:35,919 --> 02:26:41,791
county area because we gave, you know, the keys to a private business heard and

1517
02:26:41,791 --> 02:26:44,528
understood. I'm not saying is possible, but if there's a will in a way, we'll see if we

1518
02:26:44,528 --> 02:26:47,964
can make it better than it is and function for everybody. Council shipping, isn't it? I

1519
02:26:47,964 --> 02:26:56,964
read the. As a business would not discount concept Let's make it business plan. Someone

1520
02:27:02,110 --> 02:27:06,950
wants to get a benefit for free. Well, we removed the word free and there you need

1521
02:27:06,950 --> 02:27:10,754
to put skin in the game so that no one loses anything. And we do have a public

1522
02:27:10,754 --> 02:27:18,294
benefit. I would. I would suggest that the plan has to be both a business. For

1523
02:27:18,294 --> 02:27:25,802
construction of seawalls and a benefit for the public. The county should not absorb

1524
02:27:25,802 --> 02:27:34,802
losses nor should the city. people benefiting from should be paying some sort of fee,

1525
02:27:34,878 --> 02:27:41,884
some sort of investment. Can be made to work so long as those who benefit. Put skin in

1526
02:27:41,884 --> 02:27:51,194
the game. Make some payments pay fees on a annual basis on and on and It's an area that

1527
02:27:51,194 --> 02:27:57,668
could use upgrades quite frankly. And in the public could benefit at the same time

1528
02:27:57,668 --> 02:28:02,672
as businesses But everyone should have skin in the game. That'll be a homework

1529
02:28:02,672 --> 02:28:08,745
assignment on your side because this the oldest I would only say considered the

1530
02:28:08,745 --> 02:28:11,810
aesthetics because when you have, you know, it's not like they're going to be operating

1531
02:28:11,810 --> 02:28:16,686
out there and visibly. So if they build a fishing pier and put a covered parking area and

1532
02:28:16,686 --> 02:28:22,580
plan a few flowers, but 3 days a week, there's going to be a giant crane there and barges

1533
02:28:22,580 --> 02:28:27,630
coming in and out and a big area fenced off. That's extremely visible. So it looks

1534
02:28:27,630 --> 02:28:32,436
like a permanent construction of, you know, George or lay down site. You know, that's

1535
02:28:32,436 --> 02:28:41,144
that's part of it as So, you know, has to be under review was put up absolutely. And

1536
02:28:41,144 --> 02:28:47,217
please bring the podium and she has a comment on this. And I just I just want to say when

1537
02:28:47,217 --> 02:28:51,388
you when you do bring the plan and I hear you're going to bring us a plan. And I really

1538
02:28:51,388 --> 02:28:56,259
afraid to bring a plane down. But I would like be afraid. Don't be afraid. I what we are

1539
02:28:56,259 --> 02:29:04,267
when I also want to hear is what? Because you drive by it every single day. I drive by

1540
02:29:04,267 --> 02:29:10,907
it every 6 months from a broad rock, the boat on 9.51 right by on the on the river. So

1541
02:29:10,907 --> 02:29:14,945
shared with us. Some of your thoughts as to what could be done to make the USTA Dick's

1542
02:29:14,945 --> 02:29:20,383
Better. For the community for your commute as the gateway to Marco Love. Let us know what

1543
02:29:20,383 --> 02:29:28,925
those things are. And then a business proposition with regard to the shared use. How

1544
02:29:28,925 --> 02:29:33,964
that could benefit the residents of Marco as well as the county. Trinity Scott of

1545
02:29:33,964 --> 02:29:43,372
Common Pleas and 2 things. One, this is only a half acre site. lot of folks get this

1546
02:29:43,372 --> 02:29:49,912
confused with FDOT also has property adjacent to it that they utilize for their bridge

1547
02:29:49,912 --> 02:29:54,417
maintenance and they're not going to allow us to encourage in on that. So and then the

1548
02:29:54,417 --> 02:29:58,721
other thing that I would say is in the end, we have talked with several folks who have

1549
02:29:58,721 --> 02:30:01,570
come together with a proposal in one of the things that we all have to take into

1550
02:30:01,570 --> 02:30:08,665
consideration. Is that coastal zone will be utilizing this site when just talked about

1551
02:30:08,665 --> 02:30:13,670
the Collier Creek, a dredging this will most likely be the staging area for the Collier

1552
02:30:13,670 --> 02:30:18,608
Creek. Judging we worked with Marco Island previously when there was a bridge project

1553
02:30:18,608 --> 02:30:25,140
where they needed to deploy their bring their barge from the site. So for those

1554
02:30:25,140 --> 02:30:30,153
municipal projects, this municipal projects need to take precedence over any of

1555
02:30:30,153 --> 02:30:34,223
the private business, you know, and I believe your referendum just passed by one

1556
02:30:34,223 --> 02:30:38,628
vote. And I think that there was considerable bridge work in that. I would expect that

1557
02:30:38,628 --> 02:30:43,533
you're going to be coming to me to talk to me about this site. So I don't I don't I

1558
02:30:43,533 --> 02:30:50,106
would like that to have the sighting come bird when you come to me by by private I

1559
02:30:50,106 --> 02:30:54,811
just take that into consideration. I tried to hold this site, you know, sacred

1560
02:30:54,811 --> 02:30:59,149
for those type of municipal type activities. I understand that there's other private,

1561
02:30:59,149 --> 02:31:04,487
you know, thoughts about it as well. But I know when our coastal zone folks need to do

1562
02:31:04,487 --> 02:31:08,925
a dredge. This is in this particular area. This is the site that that we need to

1563
02:31:08,925 --> 02:31:13,229
utilize as well. So taking that into consideration when you're thinking about those

1564
02:31:13,229 --> 02:31:20,437
plans and like I said, your future bridge workers. Well, I know that that's going to be

1565
02:31:20,437 --> 02:31:24,600
important. Appreciate the would say also looking at the zoning on it. I believe it's

1566
02:31:24,600 --> 02:31:32,215
deemed right of way. You know, other thing was correct me if I'm wrong, where we we're in a

1567
02:31:32,215 --> 02:31:36,119
lot of deep conversation because of NFL allow us to look a couple through or it's

1568
02:31:36,119 --> 02:31:39,623
not an easy thing to navigate when you're coming one way, especially got a big truck.

1569
02:31:39,623 --> 02:31:43,827
You almost have to go find somewhere to do you turn to come back to utilize the

1570
02:31:43,827 --> 02:31:48,865
entrance because you can't turn trucks directly across it. They will allow us to put

1571
02:31:48,865 --> 02:31:54,638
a cups so you are correct wait with a city of Naples and appear project, they're

1572
02:31:54,638 --> 02:32:00,676
actually going to have to stopped traffic to a little to do you turn and and all that.

1573
02:32:00,676 --> 02:32:06,315
Now they are utilizing oversized vehicles as well. But yes, it it's going to

1574
02:32:06,315 --> 02:32:10,987
involve Florida Department of Transportation to because it is their roadway anything with

1575
02:32:10,987 --> 02:32:15,926
with regard to the access, appears that are coming in half to actually be s quarter.

1576
02:32:15,926 --> 02:32:22,399
And sheriffs closed traffic down momentarily. But they know exactly the time. Within

1577
02:32:22,399 --> 02:32:29,239
the minute when it arrives to for that So but standard, 18 wheeler bring in. And what

1578
02:32:29,239 --> 02:32:36,120
they bring a kind of materials for the walls are concrete trucks. And still be an issue

1579
02:32:36,120 --> 02:32:38,215
we gave Our own right something in your in the city of Naples. They do business of

1580
02:32:38,215 --> 02:32:44,187
the one of the park's of a 3rd in direction I see the cranes are by the talk in that

1581
02:32:44,187 --> 02:32:50,394
direction of House are, well, no, we have a we're using Bayview Park. Maybe park is

1582
02:32:50,394 --> 02:32:57,133
waste material from them here. That's coming off offshore on shore for landfill. It's not

1583
02:32:57,133 --> 02:33:04,541
being used for. Our fisheries and then they're pretty much finished up with that. That

1584
02:33:04,541 --> 02:33:09,312
was one of the other park accesses they needed for the commissioners. I'm not sure

1585
02:33:09,312 --> 02:33:11,915
it's solvable, but I appreciate the ability to poke around and see if it could be

1586
02:33:11,915 --> 02:33:19,956
least brainstorm. Some ideas. I think I'd ask our staff to explore. If there other

1587
02:33:19,956 --> 02:33:27,264
options. talk about that half acre. It was that was that small. Understand that was the

1588
02:33:27,264 --> 02:33:35,664
problem. Understand the state be reluctant to. Work out things. But that doesn't mean

1589
02:33:35,905 --> 02:33:40,410
it would be impossible. So I don't know the state think I would be a possibility. I

1590
02:33:40,410 --> 02:33:47,350
would she just that I uld be. Willing to at least take a look options. But maybe

1591
02:33:47,350 --> 02:33:52,421
there's other options than that. Just that half acre. Appreciate that. Thank you.

1592
02:33:52,421 --> 02:33:55,558
Listen, nothing's off the table. When years Lance Care says we are you trying to

1593
02:33:55,558 --> 02:34:02,699
bring any idea? Can for the last pick. Because any other thoughts or comments on this.

1594
02:34:02,699 --> 02:34:10,974
Any closing Counselors, before we open up to public comment, anything. All To do it more

1595
02:34:10,974 --> 02:34:15,712
frequently. There you go. Us. I will have a few. We could have a few closing before we

1596
02:34:15,712 --> 02:34:21,451
adjourn. many people are signed up for public comment? We have 4 registered speakers,

1597
02:34:21,451 --> 02:34:24,954
one of which wishes to conceive time to another speaker. So look at 6 minutes

1598
02:34:24,954 --> 02:34:30,127
for that. Speaker that if you please call up, okay our first speaker who wishes can see

1599
02:34:30,127 --> 02:34:39,727
time as Diana And she wishes time to Miss Sharon Lockwood. Their income on that. Good

1600
02:34:43,973 --> 02:34:48,878
afternoon. Commissioners City Council industry partners residences, just name for the

1601
02:34:48,878 --> 02:34:55,850
record share Lockwood. My name is Sharon Lockwood and I have the privilege of erving as

1602
02:34:55,850 --> 02:35:02,759
JW Marriott, Marco Island. The - largest resort in Collier County and one of the most

1603
02:35:02,759 --> 02:35:08,159
significant economic drivers in southwest Florida. Hospitality landscape. I

1604
02:35:10,133 --> 02:35:15,171
appreciate the opportunity to speak to you today about 2 opportunities. That are vital

1605
02:35:15,171 --> 02:35:20,310
to the continued strength competitiveness and long-term sustainability of our tourism

1606
02:35:20,310 --> 02:35:26,216
economy. We spoken about that first, which is the addition of the 6th sense of the

1607
02:35:26,216 --> 02:35:32,622
tourism development tax. And I'd also like to speak about the privatization of the

1608
02:35:32,622 --> 02:35:38,728
Collier County Convention and Visitors Bureau. Let me begin with us. Except. Tourism is

1609
02:35:38,728 --> 02:35:45,535
the lifeblood of Collier County. It feels are small businesses supports thousands

1610
02:35:45,535 --> 02:35:51,274
of jobs and provides the resources that allow us to maintain world-class beaches,

1611
02:35:51,274 --> 02:35:58,681
parks and infrastructure. But the expectation of today's travelers and the realities of

1612
02:35:58,681 --> 02:36:03,687
maintaining a premier destination have changed dramatically. We are competing

1613
02:36:03,687 --> 02:36:11,487
not just with other Florida counties, but with global destinations and visitors and

1614
02:36:13,497 --> 02:36:18,301
a global destinations that are investing aggressively and marketing beach preservation

1615
02:36:18,301 --> 02:36:25,242
and visitor experience enhancements. This 6th sense is not paid by the residents,

1616
02:36:25,242 --> 02:36:28,111
although I do know that Commissioner McDaniel said unless they wanted to book a

1617
02:36:28,111 --> 02:36:35,786
whole room or an Airbnb on in the county or in Marco Island. But their pay by the tourists

1618
02:36:35,786 --> 02:36:44,127
to visit our county and city each year. The 6th sense is not simply a tourist tax

1619
02:36:44,127 --> 02:36:49,166
increase. It is an investment in Collier County and Marco Islands. Future. And

1620
02:36:49,166 --> 02:36:55,405
importantly, it will deliver both immediate and long-term benefits. In the near term.

1621
02:36:55,405 --> 02:37:02,790
The $0.06 may allow us to complete the sports complex expansion. Most Rick, the

1622
02:37:02,790 --> 02:37:05,615
first focus is on the new baseball fields as mentioned earlier. Thank you,

1623
02:37:05,615 --> 02:37:10,654
Commissioner Saunders, appreciate that. And it will bolster what very important,

1624
02:37:10,654 --> 02:37:18,950
which is summer demand and tourism. If, as you know, there is a disparity between

1625
02:37:18,950 --> 02:37:21,831
the visitors that we haven't season and the visitors that we have in our second and 3rd

1626
02:37:21,831 --> 02:37:27,370
seasons of the year. And this project will also strengthen our community support you

1627
02:37:27,370 --> 02:37:34,237
sports and expand event capacity. It is a tangible, visible, visible improvement

1628
02:37:36,460 --> 02:37:40,917
that residents and visitors will benefit from right away. But the true value of the

1629
02:37:40,917 --> 02:37:46,689
$0.06 far is far beyond the initial project. It gives us the ability to protect our

1630
02:37:46,689 --> 02:37:51,594
beaches, strengthen our tourism infrastructure and ensure that our destination we

1631
02:37:51,594 --> 02:37:59,994
mean remains resilience in the face of storms, erosion and rising operational demands. As

1632
02:38:01,471 --> 02:38:07,410
the general manager of resort that welcomes hundreds of thousands of guests each year.

1633
02:38:07,410 --> 02:38:13,550
I see firsthand how essential these investments are. Our visitors expect pristine

1634
02:38:13,550 --> 02:38:18,387
beaches, reliable amenities and a seamless experience. And they notice when those

1635
02:38:18,387 --> 02:38:25,950
expectations are met. The 6th sense allows us to meet those expectations. It ensures that

1636
02:38:25,950 --> 02:38:30,867
we that the burden of these investments is shared by the visitors who enjoy them rather

1637
02:38:30,867 --> 02:38:36,506
than falling solely on our residents. Now turning to the second opportunity

1638
02:38:36,506 --> 02:38:41,144
privatization of the convention and Visitors Bureau. The tourism landscape

1639
02:38:41,144 --> 02:38:46,249
is evolving at a pace that govern government structures often struggle to match

1640
02:38:46,249 --> 02:38:51,649
marketing trends shift overnight traveler behavior changes rapidly competitive

1641
02:38:51,954 --> 02:38:58,554
destinations are nimble, data driven and highly strategic remain competitive. Collier

1642
02:38:58,561 --> 02:39:02,532
County needs a tourism organization that can operate with the same agility.

1643
02:39:02,532 --> 02:39:08,905
Privatizing this evening. The cdb would allow for faster decision-making, more

1644
02:39:08,905 --> 02:39:12,708
innovative marketing strategies and stronger partnerships with our private

1645
02:39:12,708 --> 02:39:17,880
sector. It would enable us to leverage industry expertise respond quickly to market

1646
02:39:17,880 --> 02:39:22,585
conditions and invest in campaigns that reflect real-time travel trends,

1647
02:39:22,585 --> 02:39:28,892
flexibility is no longer a luxury. It is an SS a necessity. And in closing

1648
02:39:28,892 --> 02:39:34,297
Marco Island, a Collier County are world-class destinations, but world class status must be

1649
02:39:34,297 --> 02:39:41,304
earned protected and invested in. The 6th sense and the privatization of the CVB, our

1650
02:39:41,304 --> 02:39:49,245
commitments to the future of our community. Our workforce and our economic vitality. And

1651
02:39:49,245 --> 02:39:53,783
I strongly support both of these measures. And I stand by to partner with each of you to

1652
02:39:53,783 --> 02:39:58,888
ensure Marco Island and Collier County continues to thrive as one of the most

1653
02:39:58,888 --> 02:40:03,826
exceptional destinations in the world chair of Columbia. You said we are all in this

1654
02:40:03,826 --> 02:40:09,332
together in paradise. And I agree with that. Thank you. Thank you. Our next

1655
02:40:09,332 --> 02:40:15,332
purchasers, speakers, Mister David Box. Good afternoon. Commissioners and wonderful

1656
02:40:21,631 --> 02:40:30,310
Marco Island City Council. I just wanted to your neighbor, David Boggs, Marco Island.

1657
02:40:30,807 --> 02:40:38,607
Talking about Tiger Tale. Recently, we had ambitious debate about fishing on the

1658
02:40:39,216 --> 02:40:47,160
beaches in season is coming soon. Sometimes there's a conflict when fishermen and

1659
02:40:47,591 --> 02:40:54,791
beachgoers on the same place. And councilor Champagne had recommended. counselor Palumbo

1660
02:40:56,400 --> 02:41:03,474
said, why don't the fishermen go to Tiger tale? And one of the up obstacles and going to

1661
02:41:03,474 --> 02:41:12,348
a Tiger tale is accessibility. It's difficult for us to get there with year equipment. And

1662
02:41:12,348 --> 02:41:15,180
season approaches. But I'm learning now the government takes so long it could be

1663
02:41:15,180 --> 02:41:23,270
decades before we could even get this resolved. So but is there a way that the Collier

1664
02:41:23,270 --> 02:41:28,432
County could look at putting in some type of a boardwalk, a floating dock or something to

1665
02:41:28,432 --> 02:41:35,380
help us get across the lagoon so that we can actually reach the beach without having to go

1666
02:41:35,380 --> 02:41:39,676
10 miles. That's what it feels like anyway. But in doing this, you would accomplish a

1667
02:41:39,676 --> 02:41:46,649
lot of good for everyone for beachgoers on South Beach. It would avoid so many conflicts

1668
02:41:46,649 --> 02:41:53,230
that are there and it also open up opportunity for us fishermen to enjoy the beach

1669
02:41:53,230 --> 02:42:02,230
without interference. A birds with one stone just by providing access. And so all I

1670
02:42:02,766 --> 02:42:07,700
think you would be something that we can look at I would encourage you to look at it.

1671
02:42:07,700 --> 02:42:13,710
And the reason I even think of this as day during last season. There was like 15 or

1672
02:42:13,710 --> 02:42:18,315
20 fishing poles during the day. And luckily I wasn't fishing that day. I just

1673
02:42:18,315 --> 02:42:22,919
happened to walk to be like man. This is crazy and it's Marco doesn't have a

1674
02:42:22,919 --> 02:42:30,160
designated fishing zone like Naples. You have the fishing pier. You have designated area

1675
02:42:30,160 --> 02:42:34,898
where fishermen can go and get out of the way of out of beachgoers. So can we look at

1676
02:42:34,898 --> 02:42:39,636
that as we develop Tiger tale of revamping bring it back to find a way that we can access

1677
02:42:39,636 --> 02:42:46,543
so that we could get out of the way of swimmers and go fish without having their

1678
02:42:46,543 --> 02:42:51,114
conflicts seem to come during season. So appreciate your time. I'm thankful for Marco

1679
02:42:51,114 --> 02:42:57,387
Island City Council and if we could find a way to bridge that again, we can solve a lot

1680
02:42:57,387 --> 02:42:59,990
of problems together and use lot of good for our city. So thank you for your time. Thank

1681
02:42:59,990 --> 02:43:06,590
you. Our final register speakers, Mister Brian Gilmore. Ryan Kamana. Welcome.

1682
02:43:13,169 --> 02:43:22,769
And if you just a name for the record, please. Brian Gilmore callers who on dock.

1683
02:43:23,546 --> 02:43:27,151
Councilman Commissioners appreciate the opportunity to a few words today. Thank you

1684
02:43:27,151 --> 02:43:32,689
for the public to tear and for those watching, I don't prepare statements when I

1685
02:43:32,689 --> 02:43:42,689
speak. I just like to speak from the heart. I have on the waterways committee here. We

1686
02:43:42,833 --> 02:43:49,339
follow our company's been in The owner. 22 years in business here on Marco. You

1687
02:43:49,339 --> 02:43:53,577
know, 5 start cool rating 100 reviews. Plus, I mean that a business bureau, we just not

1688
02:43:53,577 --> 02:43:59,483
perfect, but we try to do things right. The best of our ability. And we feel like. We

1689
02:43:59,483 --> 02:44:09,460
always try to partner with our customers and with the public and with the city and the

1690
02:44:09,460 --> 02:44:13,731
county and everyone involved. You know, if anybody ever need anything, you know, we try to

1691
02:44:13,731 --> 02:44:22,806
help out. And when working for people, we see it as a partnership. So just here of

1692
02:44:22,806 --> 02:44:26,977
thank Commissioner Locastro for his comments about that purchase site we have I met

1693
02:44:26,977 --> 02:44:33,450
with them privately to talk about it and he's super smart and he explained everything

1694
02:44:33,450 --> 02:44:38,822
about, you know, how things have to, you know, have a common ground swell of of

1695
02:44:38,822 --> 02:44:47,822
support. And and that's Councilman Palumbo. Talk to him also. And he was open this

1696
02:44:48,198 --> 02:44:57,730
idea because without the ability of the ordinance that we have now for staging on

1697
02:44:57,730 --> 02:45:01,945
private vacant. Lots around the island. You know, would be pushing barges back and forth

1698
02:45:01,945 --> 02:45:07,517
to Naples to the landing because Naples has a site there and you pay and you pull

1699
02:45:07,517 --> 02:45:12,155
up your truck and you offload and that's all would be looking to do you know, over

1700
02:45:12,155 --> 02:45:18,962
by the purge, you know, but we do have the vacant lot ordinance than, you know, when

1701
02:45:18,962 --> 02:45:26,503
the property owners agree to allow to use their land, you know, we have to no give them

1702
02:45:26,503 --> 02:45:32,750
all of our charts information. Obviously, do we have to pay them so forth? And we have to

1703
02:45:32,750 --> 02:45:38,215
respect the property and take care of it. We don't make candles on lots anymore

1704
02:45:38,215 --> 02:45:46,757
because ordinance we'e able to do that. But now we end. The trucks are coming over the

1705
02:45:46,757 --> 02:45:50,227
road anyways. The trucks are just going to vacant lot somewhere in the neighborhood

1706
02:45:50,227 --> 02:45:56,533
which we still need. Even if we had the bridge site, it would alleviate maybe a little

1707
02:45:56,533 --> 02:46:03,373
bit of that in the neighborhoods. So, you know, to get a truck over to that

1708
02:46:03,373 --> 02:46:10,247
bridge site. huge drop, something off or pick up a load of debris of material. It

1709
02:46:10,247 --> 02:46:13,516
would just probably go over the other bridge and just come around. And then over the

1710
02:46:13,516 --> 02:46:18,955
joint production and to that site. So not saying anything perfect appreciate, you know,

1711
02:46:18,955 --> 02:46:25,161
the fact that you be open to listening. Just everything I've heard. I've been here for

1712
02:46:25,161 --> 02:46:31,200
2 hours with y'all and it's amazing what you guys do. Okay. Like I couldn't even

1713
02:46:31,200 --> 02:46:35,291
like scratch the surface of at you guys all have to deal with. And everybody in the

1714
02:46:35,291 --> 02:46:40,129
public, every single person here has their own agenda, their own interest. But you

1715
02:46:40,129 --> 02:46:48,437
guys have to do it all so so hats off to you guys just want to let you know that we

1716
02:46:48,437 --> 02:46:53,109
appreciate, you know, any opportunity to be part of something that could help the

1717
02:46:53,109 --> 02:47:01,284
residents because you got to think you're on an island. Let's not forget Ron Island.

1718
02:47:01,284 --> 02:47:10,960
So barges are needed walls fall down. They have to be fixed you know where to do it.

1719
02:47:10,960 --> 02:47:12,895
Councils commissioners any we're great time there. Any final thoughts? Quickly,

1720
02:47:12,895 --> 02:47:21,295
anybody. you're anything you want just think is a thought out venture between our 2

1721
02:47:25,207 --> 02:47:30,747
organizations here to governments. And I think it was probably. Needed a few

1722
02:47:30,747 --> 02:47:37,753
years we don't know. I heard a rumor was probably a decade ago made the last time we did.

1723
02:47:37,753 --> 02:47:45,962
We can better shortly after we were elected 16, it 10 years. When I got the chair. When I

1724
02:47:45,962 --> 02:47:53,350
got the opportunity to chair this year, kind of wanted to. Have this type of olive branch

1725
02:47:53,350 --> 02:47:56,639
with the city of Naples. And I know talked to Amy boat. It's getting with the different

1726
02:47:56,639 --> 02:48:03,880
incorporated. Cities within our footprint of the county's. So kind of glad this happened.

1727
02:48:03,880 --> 02:48:09,986
And I think it's and I think it is important the citizens see like the gentleman from

1728
02:48:09,986 --> 02:48:15,124
the wall company to see welcome ISIS. There's a lot of moving parts, lot of moving

1729
02:48:15,124 --> 02:48:21,397
parts and as you move up. in the in the in the hierarchy of government, the part of just

1730
02:48:21,397 --> 02:48:27,360
gets more moving parts. But I think like commissioner cashiers said that. It helps

1731
02:48:27,360 --> 02:48:32,410
if are all grown in the same direction. We all want the best thing for our citizens as

1732
02:48:32,410 --> 02:48:34,643
we're all here for, you know, we just want to do the right thing and the best thing and I

1733
02:48:34,643 --> 02:48:41,500
think we can kind of get our has to go. We don't need official meeting for

1734
02:48:41,500 --> 02:48:45,388
councilmember to reach out to one of the Mister Blitzer, MR. Commissioner Locastro because

1735
02:48:45,388 --> 02:48:53,662
he represents this district. They got an idea project are some of thinking about. that's

1736
02:48:53,662 --> 02:48:58,534
why the voters and Marco Island vote for him. You know, he might not directly

1737
02:48:58,534 --> 02:49:02,138
represent them. They still vote So that's what we're here for. And that's what I tell

1738
02:49:02,138 --> 02:49:09,379
people. City of Naples. not? Why not represent you on every aspect of a building permit or

1739
02:49:09,379 --> 02:49:11,414
anything like that. That's yours. Your government has to handle that. But I'm still

1740
02:49:11,414 --> 02:49:16,452
here to represent you anywhere can through the county. And I try to express to them. So I

1741
02:49:16,452 --> 02:49:26,520
think it's important that we all. Have that mindset move forward. I want to thanks to

1742
02:49:26,129 --> 02:49:33,329
are manager City Manager Casey Lucious. Thank you for. Arranging this wonderful

1743
02:49:33,402 --> 02:49:40,610
event. And one more thing that Mr. Le Costa has the longest in the longest newsletter

1744
02:49:40,610 --> 02:49:47,810
every month. And it's extremely know, actually. It's extremely informative. But the

1745
02:49:48,840 --> 02:49:54,684
difference between reading this come, commissioner Story Commissioner La CA shows

1746
02:49:55,891 --> 02:49:59,161
detailed they dot and presentation. I think this is so much better. The heat is

1747
02:49:59,161 --> 02:50:07,350
the reason why that we actually really killing a lot of miss Miss. Can you nice

1748
02:50:07,350 --> 02:50:15,435
representation or lot of wrong and not right. The information. so this is very

1749
02:50:15,478 --> 02:50:20,749
important. I'm asking to do it all the time, but I think Mr. Low-cost or should I think he

1750
02:50:20,749 --> 02:50:25,540
is a newsletter said incredible. And I think this open communication is still

1751
02:50:25,540 --> 02:50:33,595
much better. I stand. And everyone of you commissioners, thank you for being here. Good

1752
02:50:33,595 --> 02:50:36,965
luck So one day I just say about the newsletter, it's it's for the citizens and I

1753
02:50:36,965 --> 02:50:41,270
have over 80,000 subscribers. And, you know, we had 4 people at the podium. So I think, you

1754
02:50:41,270 --> 02:50:45,374
know, it serves both purposes. I get a lot of positive comments. Let me just throw

1755
02:50:45,374 --> 02:50:47,910
this out there. Commissioner McDowell is gonna hate this statement. But when we have

1756
02:50:47,910 --> 02:50:54,617
public comment at our commissioner meetings, he hit a low is whispered to me,

1757
02:50:54,617 --> 02:50:57,820
especially somebody says something where we could provide an easy answer to that

1758
02:50:57,820 --> 02:51:01,490
person, right? Or maybe they say something that is so egregious that we're all

1759
02:51:01,490 --> 02:51:07,863
leaning forward you know, it's totally up to the chairs here. But when something was asked

1760
02:51:07,863 --> 02:51:12,368
about Tiger Tale on the boardwalk, I do have a 2 sentences that would at least

1761
02:51:12,368 --> 02:51:19,740
answer that if anybody is curious, if not of just send you the details, but it's up

1762
02:51:19,740 --> 02:51:25,581
to you. so so that that ideas is is an old one that has been addressed even before I was a

1763
02:51:25,581 --> 02:51:30,919
county commissioner in order to build a boardwalk across target, elegant, you would

1764
02:51:30,919 --> 02:51:36,125
need permits and approvals by a lot of different environmental organizations.

1765
02:51:36,125 --> 02:51:40,280
And I floated the idea so I could make sure that the answers that were a bit dusty

1766
02:51:40,280 --> 02:51:48,428
that I had heard. We're relevant and the answer that comes back from the

1767
02:51:49,238 --> 02:51:51,373
environmental groups that would have to be part of you know, making access easier for

1768
02:51:51,373 --> 02:51:57,713
title. Tell was that such a fragile area? We're not looking to make make access

1769
02:51:57,713 --> 02:52:01,584
easier for people to cut through the lagoon, cut through the mangrove so they

1770
02:52:01,584 --> 02:52:06,756
can get to the beach easier and quicker. Also to it, you made it more convenient. It

1771
02:52:06,756 --> 02:52:11,226
would bring more people to Tiger tale. And so there would be other issues. So I'll just

1772
02:52:11,226 --> 02:52:17,165
leave it at that. It's asked and answered multiple times and that's why it has never

1773
02:52:17,165 --> 02:52:25,273
been approved or explored. Do the environmental impact. like I said, the vehicle inclusion

1774
02:52:25,273 --> 02:52:28,778
know is that the end we're not looking to make access easier there to cut through that area

1775
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because of how sensitive it is that we would need the approval of multiple

1776
02:52:32,214 --> 02:52:38,120
organizations and you know who they are, fish and wildlife and soe others. And they are

1777
02:52:38,120 --> 02:52:46,213
they've asked and answer that question multiple over the years that you guys trying

1778
02:52:46,213 --> 02:52:49,550
where where air. But then when I just thought I was sitting on a quick answer, it's an

1779
02:52:49,550 --> 02:52:52,586
e-mail to you all we had out. If you I think Dr. Lucia said one thing. Sure to say, Casey,

1780
02:52:52,586 --> 02:52:57,124
enough finished. Let's let's yes. Thank First, I'd like to thank the commissioners for

1781
02:52:57,124 --> 02:53:04,365
making the drive down here and meeting our elected representatives. I like to

1782
02:53:04,365 --> 02:53:08,902
thank the county manager for her partnership as well as the county staff who attended and

1783
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they're always very responsive and cooperative with our city staff and then finally, we

1784
02:53:15,420 --> 02:53:20,414
would like to get a picture of all the elected officials who are here today before you run

1785
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out. If you'll just meet in the lobby get a photo. Thank you. He I was going to finish

1786
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with some of the same political just say quickly echo what you said.

1787
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Commissioners, thank you for coming down. Thank you for coming to our area. We

1788
02:53:32,760 --> 02:53:36,960
appreciate it. Mister Chair, thank you for letting me about a media conference and

1789
02:53:36,960 --> 02:53:41,100
appreciate your meant and lets hope to do it again sometime very soon in the last, let's

1790
02:53:41,100 --> 02:53:45,739
say, said it's not just what Collier County can do for us. We are part of cake. if we do

1791
02:53:45,739 --> 02:53:49,477
something for you, please don't hesitate to reach out. Also. Yes, sir, please. Love

1792
02:53:49,477 --> 02:53:55,416
said this out of the meetings, sort of a call to action. I'd like for the city Council to

1793
02:53:55,416 --> 02:54:02,355
take a position in support of tourist development tax and that get try to get the vote

1794
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out because just a benefit Marco Island. the distant future. But we have to get we

1795
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have to get a positive vote. we miss anybody? commissioners counselors had one more thing?

1796
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You know, it was great to get us together here, I'm always at your disposal. So if you're

1797
02:54:18,472 --> 02:54:23,710
trying to speak to all the commissioners much like I told Mike a that if they have an

1798
02:54:23,710 --> 02:54:27,381
issue, they need to speak to their elected officials. I'm your elected official here. So

1799
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if you want to pass a message to the county commissioners or what have even if it's

1800
02:54:32,787 --> 02:54:36,523
something that maybe I don't agree with. It's not my job to filter it out and keep it from

1801
02:54:36,523 --> 02:54:42,262
my peers. So rest assured that if if something came through the proper channels and the

1802
02:54:42,262 --> 02:54:45,199
sunshine law issues or whatnot, but it was a topic you wanted to streamline to

1803
02:54:45,199 --> 02:54:48,569
the county and eventually possibly develop commissioners. You know, I'm

1804
02:54:48,569 --> 02:54:55,409
not I'm not a speed bump at all easily accessible, as you know. I think you represent as

1805
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well, guys. 3.58, excellent, 2 minutes and to extend anything. No other thoughts,

1806
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journey. Thank you